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| [01:29:16] | jams: | If anybody is looking for something todo, please goto http://www.wafflehouse.com/welcome/component/content/article/194 and vote for Christina Meyer's song "Big appetite for life" |
| [01:29:51] | jams: | vote early and vote often ! where often is once a day |
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| [01:30:36] | jams: | thank you for your support |
| [01:38:33] | kormoc: | jams, person stake in it? |
| [01:38:47] | jams: | it's my wife's song |
| [01:38:53] | kormoc: | Ahh, nice :) |
| [01:38:54] | jams: | so yes i suppose so |
| [01:39:31] | jams: | first place is to have the song professional recorded and placed in the waffle house jukebox. along with wafflehouse gift certs |
| [01:40:14] | jams: | it's for her the only reason i posted here..as it's way off topic =) |
| [01:41:48] | Beirdo: | ahhh, I was thinking wife? sister? daughter? :) |
| [01:41:49] | kormoc: | Heh, free food is always awesome |
| [01:43:49] | jams: | thx guys |
| [01:44:10] | jams: | one of these days she will write a song we can retire off of |
| [01:44:16] | Beirdo: | congrats on her making it to being a finalist too |
| [01:44:27] | jams: | yeah that was exciting all by itself |
| [01:46:01] | jams: | I think the current first place guy cheated, as he hadd 100 votes before we got the notice that her song was a finalist |
| [01:46:09] | jams: | it was 100 – 0 – 0 |
| [01:46:18] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [01:46:24] | jams: | seems odd doesn't it |
| [01:46:49] | Beirdo: | rather fishy, yeah |
| [01:48:08] | jams: | hehe..got my boss at work to vote, but only after I promised to not retire if we win |
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| [01:49:11] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:49:22] | Beirdo: | yeah, you won't retire... you'll quit :) |
| [01:49:23] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:50:07] | jams: | eathing wafflehouse food the rest of our life. I imagine that would really shorten our lifespan if we did that |
| [01:50:40] | Beirdo: | wouldn't work for me as Waffle House doesn't seem to be anywhere near Seattle :) |
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| [01:51:02] | Beirdo: | which is a shame |
| [01:51:19] | Beirdo: | it could be like Dead Like Me |
| [01:51:28] | Beirdo: | make that you office :) |
| [01:51:32] | kormoc: | a lifetime supply *average lifetime is two weeks if consumed for every meal |
| [01:51:33] | Beirdo: | your rather |
| [01:51:44] | jams: | mostly mid -to – southern USA. at least thats my understanding |
| [01:52:22] | kormoc: | yeah, but we have ihop to take it's place |
| [01:52:23] | Beirdo: | ah well |
| [01:52:29] | Beirdo: | we do have IHOP |
| [01:52:37] | Beirdo: | and Denny's |
| [01:52:41] | jams: | yes ihop is good as well |
| [01:52:46] | jams: | Denny's not so much |
| [01:52:54] | Beirdo: | so you can kill yourself with fatty breakfasts :) |
| [01:53:19] | Beirdo: | Denny's is good once in a while when you need a grease fix |
| [01:53:19] | kormoc: | Why do Denny's when there's always a sharie's next to it? |
| [01:53:43] | kormoc: | *Sharis |
| [01:53:44] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:54:00] | Beirdo: | I think Denny's should try real hard to get open at 1 Denny Way |
| [01:54:05] | Beirdo: | just to be silly |
| [01:54:58] | Beirdo: | Denny's served me well in PR when I had to get out of the house at 3am or something |
| [01:55:01] | jams: | that would work better for Burger king |
| [01:55:10] | jams: | 1 Burger King UR WAY |
| [01:55:25] | Beirdo: | go have a coffee and some eggs or something... chill a while |
| [01:55:35] | Beirdo: | then go home to get nagged again |
| [01:56:22] | kormoc: | A wise man one said violence never solves anything, and I agree. High powered shaped explosives solve everything. |
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| [02:04:15] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:04:34] | Beirdo: | divorce did help, actually, as painful and horrid as it is |
| [02:05:03] | Beirdo: | heck, there were times when I'd get in the car and drive... like 100 miles |
| [02:06:05] | Beirdo: | but anyways :) |
| [02:06:33] | Beirdo: | now time to go to Starbucks. I feel like recaffinating, but don't feel like making my own |
| [02:06:39] | ** Beirdo is being a lazy git today ** | |
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| [03:38:18] | dewman: | I want some tacos |
| [03:39:50] | Beirdo: | yo queiro Taco Bell |
| [03:43:38] | kormoc: | and I want a million dollars... I'll tell you what, I'll deliver you some tacos if you give me a million dollars! |
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| [04:14:00] | CQN: | hi, i've been reading up online about how to capture video from hdmi, but it seems that it's not possible because the data stream is too big to write to an hdd. is there any way to use an hdmi input for a htpc/dvr setup? |
| [04:16:33] | tank-man: | what device is this that captures hdmi? |
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| [04:17:30] | kormoc: | CQN, there are devices out there to do it, but it's extremely expensive to do so and lack linux drivers, so not much use for mythtv |
| [04:17:59] | kormoc: | tank-man, there's a blackmagic device to do it, but iirc it's around $12,000 and relies on no HDCP on the line |
| [04:18:32] | tank-man: | for $12000, i'd rather hire some hs students to act out what every i want |
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| [04:19:06] | CQN: | kormoc: what about the blackmagic intensity pro? |
| [04:19:10] | CQN: | it's $200 |
| [04:19:14] | madbunny: | Hi all |
| [04:19:53] | CQN: | and there are linux drivers |
| [04:20:43] | tank-man: | so what does it capture? some high bitrate raw data? |
| [04:20:49] | madbunny: | Can someone advise the correct procedure for getting some help with a particular problem im having with mythweb |
| [04:20:56] | CQN: | tank-man: i don't know, that's why i'm here ;/ |
| [04:21:01] | CQN: | i think that's what it captures |
| [04:21:12] | CQN: | someone on mythtvtalk.com said it was 2.5 GB/s |
| [04:21:23] | CQN: | so that's too fast to write to an hdd |
| [04:21:32] | kormoc: | yeah, it dumps in raw format |
| [04:21:58] | CQN: | kormoc: so there are no other options? |
| [04:22:17] | kormoc: | CQN, for a single drive, yes, but it's only 320 megabytes per second, so you can get that fast on raid arrays, certain very high priced SSDs |
| [04:22:33] | kormoc: | CQN, not that I know of, that's a hugh price drop for that tech tho |
| [04:23:02] | CQN: | so what are my options for dvring/recording HDTV in mythtv? |
| [04:23:07] | CQN: | can i use component input? |
| [04:23:09] | tank-man: | that ssd will be filled in short time, heh |
| [04:23:24] | madbunny: | ? |
| [04:23:27] | kormoc: | CQN, happauge hdpvr is my choice, component capturing in h264 |
| [04:23:40] | CQN: | ok |
| [04:23:51] | CQN: | why is it that you can't capture over hdmi in h264, but you can over component? |
| [04:24:27] | CQN: | also, will the quality be noticeably degraded when capturing over component? and will using component remove the issue of the broadcast flag? |
| [04:24:38] | kormoc: | because they didn't put a hardware h264 encoder in their device |
| [04:24:51] | kormoc: | it's all up to the capture device to build support in for that or not as they see fit |
| [04:25:06] | kormoc: | I don't notice any quality issues |
| [04:25:15] | kormoc: | and the broadcast flag is dead |
| [04:25:19] | CQN: | ok |
| [04:25:37] | CQN: | so is there some technological hurdle to having a hardware h264 encoder in a hdmi capture device? |
| [04:25:43] | CQN: | or just that there's no demand, so no one's bothered |
| [04:25:46] | kormoc: | nope |
| [04:25:52] | kormoc: | likely that, aye |
| [04:25:56] | CQN: | wow, that sucks |
| [04:26:08] | kormoc: | well, you're also extremely limited to what you can capture |
| [04:26:20] | CQN: | how so? |
| [04:26:22] | kormoc: | you'd need to have devices that don't enforce HDCP to capture off of HDMI |
| [04:26:28] | kormoc: | HDMI supports DRM on the signal |
| [04:26:51] | kormoc: | so I doubt your cable box would send a non-HDCP signal over HDMI anyway |
| [04:26:57] | CQN: | component ignores HDCP right? that's what i meant when i said "broadcast flag" |
| [04:28:11] | kormoc: | Aye, you can't send HDCP over an analog signal |
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| [04:32:29] | CQN: | kormoc: it says on the wiki that component output is selectively disabled by tv providers |
| [04:32:38] | CQN: | do you know if this has happened at all in the US? |
| [04:32:49] | kormoc: | I have not heard of it happening |
| [04:34:28] | CQN: | ok |
| [04:35:39] | CQN: | do you know what the bitrate is for video that comes from the hdpvr? |
| [04:36:09] | kormoc: | adjustable |
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| [04:36:19] | CQN: | "Recording datarate: from 1 to 13.5 Mbits/sec" <-- so all of this should be doable on a regular hdd? |
| [04:36:25] | kormoc: | perfectly |
| [04:36:42] | kormoc: | I record to a single usb drive and commflag and watch all on the same drive |
| [04:36:55] | kormoc: | plenty of bandwidth to spare |
| [04:37:56] | CQN: | kk |
| [04:38:30] | sphery: | kormoc: is there a better way to do the join on this query? http://pastebin.com/Py2bp8Ei |
| [04:38:37] | sphery: | specifically the cg/cgn part |
| [04:38:53] | sphery: | (the program/channel stuff is done by the custom recording rule query) |
| [04:39:46] | sphery: | Trying to figure out the right SQL for adding the "only from favorites" custom query example clause back in now that we've moved to channel groups and have multiple tables involved |
| [04:40:44] | kormoc: | seems like a pretty sane execution path |
| [04:41:14] | sphery: | no need for fancy left outer join/right inner banks/whatever stuff? |
| [04:41:42] | kormoc: | Heh, it's doing it for you :P |
| [04:41:46] | sphery: | cool |
| [04:42:08] | sphery: | and as for order, cgn.name first, then the rest? or does it matter? |
| [04:42:23] | kormoc: | http://pastebin.com/5dccBW0v is what the mysql optimizer optimizes it to |
| [04:42:32] | sphery: | ooh, fancy |
| [04:43:04] | kormoc: | the tables are so small I would imagine it wouldn't matter at all |
| [04:43:58] | sphery: | heh, the "join ... join ..." stuff is prettier than having the "subtitle" field (list of extra tables) show as, ", channelgroup cg, channelgroupnames cgn" |
| [04:44:11] | sphery: | might have to go in and change all of them :) |
| [04:45:46] | sphery: | I thought about channel.chanid = cg.chanid, but I'm slightly worried about the fact that users don't specify channel (it's just part of the query)... sure it will likely never change, but... |
| [04:46:12] | sphery: | anyway, thanks... I'll likely use a few of the things from the optimized version |
| [04:47:02] | ** kormoc this his hat and finds a bug with the qt query handler ** | |
| [04:47:21] | sphery: | wow, 19m to delete 780GiB of recordings (372 files) that I had moved to temp storage to repartition/format my HDD |
| [04:47:30] | sphery: | what bug? |
| [04:47:46] | kormoc: | if you query.prepare and then query.exec a different one and it errors out, it dumps the prepared query and not the exec one |
| [04:48:04] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:48:07] | sphery: | cool |
| [04:48:12] | kormoc: | had me chasing the wrong query for a bit |
| [04:49:22] | sphery: | When I was trying to get my initial query, above, it worked fine on mysql client (2 results), but when I put it in mythfrontend, I got no results. Spent 10min trying to figure out what the the frontend was doing differently. Then I thought to check whether starttime > NOW() for those 2 results (it wasn't :). |
| [04:49:59] | sphery: | once changed to a future show, it worked |
| [04:50:03] | kormoc: | hadees, whoops |
| [04:50:11] | kormoc: | and auto-complete fail, sorry |
| [04:50:44] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:52:48] | sphery: | kormoc: so you might know... When I used parted to make partition table for that WD drive (512e), it gave me 2 options to align... minimal and optimal. optimal aligns on 1MiB boundaries and minimal at 4KiB boundaries. Is optimal really better for the drive or did I waste 8MiB for nothing? |
| [04:53:21] | sphery: | (minimal started the partition at sector 64, optimal started at sector 2048) |
| [04:53:49] | kormoc: | hrm, afaik there's no reason to go larger then the sector size |
| [04:53:57] | sphery: | oh, or maybe that was logical sector 2048, meaning it was 1MiB, not 8MiB |
| [04:54:17] | sphery: | the man page is quite useless for explaining it |
| [04:55:31] | sphery: | optimal: Use optimum alignment as given by the disk topology information. This aligns to a multiple of the physical block size in a way that guarantees optimal performance. |
| [04:55:45] | sphery: | guarantees it... through WAG? |
| [04:55:52] | kormoc: | "optimal alignment is 1MiB, which is what vista and windows 7 do." |
| [04:55:58] | sphery: | oh |
| [04:56:10] | sphery: | so it's a broken-OS-compatibility feature? |
| [04:56:54] | kormoc: | could be, or it could be that because MS decided that was the size the drive folks optimized to it |
| [04:56:55] | sphery: | it's annoying that both ways resulted in partitions not aligning on "cylinders", so cfdisk won't read the partition table |
| [04:56:59] | sphery: | (just says it's broken) |
| [04:57:06] | kormoc: | ick |
| [04:57:51] | sphery: | I may have to do the math and see what the largest partition I could make that aligns on physical sectors /and/ cylinders... |
| [04:57:58] | sphery: | wonder how much space that would waste |
| [05:05:11] | kormoc: | ahh, evidently SSD's are really happy with larger sector sizes, so windows likely went with the 1M boundary to future-proof aways |
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| [05:11:04] | sphery: | kormoc: Ah... Well, I guess I wasted 1MiB (I'm now assuming it was logical sectors) for nothing. At the price I paid for that drive, that's $0.000055 down the drain. |
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| [05:13:23] | kormoc: | rough! |
| [05:13:32] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [05:13:42] | kormoc: | we have missing roles in the credits table |
| [05:14:12] | sphery: | I got hungry and had a stick of butter, so... |
| [05:14:28] | sphery: | the roles are just pulled out of the data |
| [05:14:32] | kormoc: | deep fried butter? |
| [05:14:32] | sphery: | in the listings |
| [05:14:40] | kormoc: | huh |
| [05:14:42] | sphery: | heh... I was thinking buttered roles |
| [05:14:49] | sphery: | many users have discrepancies |
| [05:14:53] | sphery: | from all sorts of issues in the past |
| [05:14:58] | kormoc: | do we update them? |
| [05:15:06] | sphery: | we add new |
| [05:15:07] | kormoc: | cause it's a set |
| [05:15:10] | sphery: | we use what matches |
| [05:15:18] | kormoc: | ahh, huh |
| [05:15:29] | kormoc: | I'd imagine I'd have seen these before but they're not in the set |
| [05:16:11] | sphery: | oh, wait... you mean the actual role field |
| [05:16:23] | sphery: | I was thinking of the credits table |
| [05:16:26] | sphery: | which has issues |
| [05:16:34] | sphery: | (one of which is the utf8_bin'ishness) |
| [05:17:18] | sphery: | so maybe we do have missing roles |
| [05:17:34] | kormoc: | Yeah, and they get truncated |
| [05:17:52] | sphery: | actually, mine isn't showing utf8_bin |
| [05:18:07] | sphery: | oh, that's people.name |
| [05:18:10] | sphery: | I'm all confused tonight |
| [05:18:36] | sphery: | (can't really have a utf8_bin collation on a mediumint :) |
| [05:18:38] | kormoc: | why can't we just truncate people/credits/etc? |
| [05:18:41] | kormoc: | heh |
| [05:18:49] | sphery: | users can |
| [05:19:50] | sphery: | I plan to do a db update that pulls people into a temp table without constraints, changes collation to utf8_general_ci, truncates people, then selects distinct into people and updates the references on the other tables |
| [05:19:57] | sphery: | I just haven't gotten around to it, yet |
| [05:20:05] | kormoc: | Well, I think I have optimized the INSERT IGNORE INTO people and INSERT IGNORE INTO credits code |
| [05:20:38] | sphery: | need to do that for keyword.phrase, oldprogram.oldtitle, people.name, powerpriority.priorityname, recgrouppassword.recgroup |
| [05:20:57] | sphery: | cool |
| [05:21:52] | sphery: | how exactly do you optimize that? indices? |
| [05:23:32] | kormoc: | exclusive join :P |
| [05:23:33] | kormoc: | http://pastebin.com/73HEw3wa |
| [05:23:53] | kormoc: | basically a INSERT IGNORE does a table scan rather then using the indexes that exist |
| [05:24:08] | kormoc: | I join to exclude existing entries (using the index) and then attempt to insert |
| [05:24:24] | sphery: | kormoc: oh, and speaking of indices... Is it true that CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE LIKE will also copy indices but CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE SELECT ... won't? |
| [05:24:35] | sphery: | could that be why we're getting slow scheduling? |
| [05:24:48] | kormoc: | Aye, that's quite true |
| [05:24:49] | sphery: | that + the now-very-variable row lengths |
| [05:25:16] | kormoc: | ahh, yeah, that could do the trick |
| [05:25:26] | sphery: | cool on the insert ingore... |
| [05:25:40] | sphery: | we use create ... like in a couple of places |
| [05:26:07] | kormoc: | I don't recall seeing a CREATE TABLE SELECT when I glanced over things |
| [05:26:18] | sphery: | with that, though, we'd have to create the table, then copy data into it, so we'd want to create table, disable indices, copy data, enable indices? |
| [05:27:11] | kormoc: | drop for disable and add for enable, sure |
| [05:27:24] | kormoc: | that'd be best, aye |
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| [05:28:50] | sphery: | OK, so we only have CREATE TEMPORARY TABLE recordmatch SELECT * FROM recordmatch ... in Scheduler::FillRecordListFromDB(), and recordmatch is small |
| [05:29:00] | sphery: | (but what's up with temp table having the same name as normal table? |
| [05:30:02] | kormoc: | I actually didn't know you could do that |
| [05:30:07] | sphery: | makes 2 of us |
| [05:30:15] | sphery: | guess it shadows the real one? |
| [05:30:34] | sphery: | at least it drops it |
| [05:30:50] | sphery: | unless adding the index fails :) |
| [05:30:53] | kormoc: | yup, docs say "The existing table is hidden until the temporary table is dropped." |
| [05:31:01] | sphery: | then we leave a messed up copy of a table... |
| [05:31:15] | sphery: | I don't like that |
| [05:34:16] | sphery: | seems the recordmatch copy is only for speculative scheduler |
| [05:35:34] | kormoc: | it'd be kinda nice to use the memory engine for our temp tables |
| [05:35:41] | kormoc: | so the schema actually sticks around |
| [05:36:10] | sphery: | I may add in a DROP TEMPORARY TABLE IF EXISTS recordmatch; before the return at line 416 ( http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . ler.cpp#L398 ) and add in the keyword TEMPORARY to the DROP TABLE in 432 |
| [05:37:26] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [05:37:35] | kormoc: | sounds like great ideas |
| [05:37:37] | sphery: | in theory it's been created by then and it's only the alter that failed, so leaving a broken recordmatch on a single connection to the DB is probably Not Good... |
| [05:38:51] | sphery: | I don't see how we wouldn't have a temp table recordmatch at 432, but still, it makes sense to be explicit about what we're doing :) |
| [05:39:27] | sphery: | So I'm back to having no idea why gbee's is so slow |
| [05:39:48] | kormoc: | I need to finish that fake scheduler script |
| [05:40:57] | sphery: | hmmm... his slow-query log expired :( |
| [05:41:02] | sphery: | I should have saved it |
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| [05:49:07] | achew22: | How do you set the default transcode profile for a recording device? |
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| [05:51:01] | badllama77: | Can anyone think of a reason for my music tracks to be skipping forward 2 or 3 seconds. |
| [05:51:27] | badllama77: | They are mp3 on a mythbuntu karmic box with .22 build |
| [05:51:27] | sphery: | kormoc: Do you think it would be worthwhile to disable indices before the INSERT ... SELECT for sched_temp_record (copy of record) and sched_temp_recorded (copy of recorded)? |
| [05:51:49] | sphery: | at least for some of us, recorded is > 1000 rows... |
| [05:52:32] | kormoc: | you can't disable indexes on innodb, but it could be worth it to drop and add them |
| [05:52:34] | sphery: | achew22: TTBOMK, default transcoder can be specified on a specific recording rule or for a particular source format (from MPEG-2 or ...) |
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| [05:53:24] | sphery: | kormoc: if we did that, though, it would probably be better to CREATE ... SELECT, then just add them, right? |
| [05:53:34] | kormoc: | yeah |
| [05:53:54] | sphery: | any way to copy all existing indices from a table? |
| [05:54:12] | kormoc: | nope :( |
| [05:54:15] | sphery: | or probably would require figuring out which we need, then explicitly adding them... |
| [05:54:22] | sphery: | ok, not worth the effort, then :) |
| [05:54:38] | sphery: | at least, at this point, we have nothing to indicate that's slow :) |
| [05:55:00] | sphery: | and on the order of 1000 rows isn't that bad for inserts |
| [05:55:24] | kormoc: | Yeah, that should be fairly fast |
| [05:55:43] | sphery: | I doubt anyone has >10K, and even that should be pretty fast |
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| [06:14:30] | ** Beirdo tosses the new sheets into the wash ** | |
| [06:14:32] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [06:14:49] | Beirdo: | now if I could find my allen key set |
| [06:15:13] | Beirdo: | I'll get back to code later on :) Real life is intervening a bit |
| [06:16:19] | kormoc: | Here's hoping I didn't blast someone's mythbox out of the water nightly (if their key buffer size is too low, that change might really hurt) |
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| [08:00:09] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [08:00:18] | Beirdo: | yay, haz bed |
| [08:01:47] | kormoc: | Beirdo, how fast is your scheduler running (if you're around @HEAD) |
| [08:02:11] | Beirdo: | I haven't compiled in your last change yet, but let me see |
| [08:02:23] | Beirdo: | the filldb one I don't have yet |
| [08:02:25] | kormoc: | my last change only affects mythfilldatabase :) |
| [08:02:29] | kormoc: | yeah, that's cool |
| [08:02:40] | kormoc: | wondering if you're affected by the varchar scheduler slowdowns? |
| [08:03:37] | Beirdo: | 2010-07–31 23:31:58.778 Scheduled 1126 items in 4.2 = 0.06 match + 4.09 place |
| [08:03:47] | kormoc: | that'd be a no then :P |
| [08:04:07] | Beirdo: | Segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| [08:04:08] | Beirdo: | 2010-08–01 00:02:30.395 MythFillDatabase command '/opt/mythtv/upnp-commskip/bin/ |
| [08:04:09] | kormoc: | gbee's went from ~15 seconds to 45–90 |
| [08:04:11] | Beirdo: | mythfilldatabase ' failed |
| [08:04:12] | Beirdo: | well that's cool |
| [08:04:23] | kormoc: | that's not my fault is it? |
| [08:04:29] | Beirdo: | no clue |
| [08:04:43] | Beirdo: | let me look at da core |
| [08:05:38] | Beirdo: | it dies in QReadWriteLock::lockForWrite() |
| [08:05:47] | Beirdo: | called from ClearSettingsCache |
| [08:06:10] | kormoc: | I only touched the db queries post download/process/etc, so shouldn't be me |
| [08:06:15] | Beirdo: | looked like it was after the fill finished |
| [08:06:33] | kormoc: | crap |
| [08:06:39] | kormoc: | run it with -v all? |
| [08:06:53] | Beirdo: | just mythfilldb? |
| [08:07:00] | Beirdo: | will do |
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| [08:07:22] | Beirdo: | it may be that I need to make distclean / rebuild too, but I think it is ok |
| [08:09:22] | Beirdo: | who's the numbskull that decided not to implement -l logfile for mfd? |
| [08:10:33] | Beirdo: | OK, running with -v all |
| [08:10:48] | Beirdo: | oh god |
| [08:10:56] | Beirdo: | mysql query spew :) |
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| [08:12:17] | Beirdo: | second set of mysql spew |
| [08:13:07] | kormoc: | yeah... it's a lot |
| [08:13:55] | kormoc: | heh, my mythbox generates a tad over 5 gigs of queries per day (in text format with performance stats) |
| [08:14:04] | kormoc: | we're chatty |
| [08:14:28] | Beirdo: | yeah |
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| [08:14:33] | Beirdo: | marking repeats |
| [08:14:55] | Beirdo: | and spew..... :) |
| [08:15:15] | Beirdo: | yeah, we can so replace mysql with flat files... snicker |
| [08:15:45] | kormoc: | so MFD when run in the backend and as a release build segfaults for me, but build it as debug or run it as a normal user, no segfault... horribly hard to track down |
| [08:16:07] | Beirdo: | it's in debug for me, so I have a valid coredump |
| [08:16:18] | Beirdo: | and likely will have one shortly |
| [08:16:27] | Beirdo: | nope |
| [08:16:30] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:16:45] | Beirdo: | it ran just fine with -v all |
| [08:17:22] | Beirdo: | stoopid computers |
| [08:19:42] | Beirdo: | let me find the exact line of crash, and see if it becomes obvious |
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| [08:22:34] | Beirdo: | 780 d->settingsCacheLock.lockForWrite(); |
| [08:23:52] | Beirdo: | very first line of MythDB::ClearSettingsCache |
| [08:27:09] | Beirdo: | nothing's jumping out at me |
| [08:27:29] | Beirdo: | you think we should make a ticket? |
| [08:27:43] | kormoc: | huh |
| [08:28:02] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [08:28:19] | Beirdo: | I'll keep an eye on it for a bit |
| [08:28:32] | Beirdo: | if it keeps doing it, I'll go bug it or somethng |
| [08:29:05] | kormoc: | Ahh |
| [08:29:10] | kormoc: | a scheduler in a .sql file |
| [08:29:11] | kormoc: | http://stuff.kormoc.com/Scheduler%20Profile.sql |
| [08:30:17] | Beirdo: | hehe, you REALLY should take that space outta the filename :) |
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| [08:30:28] | Beirdo: | some loser will have an issue, I'm usre :) |
| [08:30:31] | Beirdo: | sure even |
| [08:30:47] | kormoc: | Barrier to entry! |
| [08:30:52] | ** kormoc shifty eyes ** | |
| [08:30:54] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [08:33:31] | Beirdo: | one sec, and I'll pastebin this :) |
| [08:34:52] | Beirdo: | ah, why can't I upload a file to a pastebin? :) |
| [08:35:18] | kormoc: | too easy |
| [08:36:35] | Beirdo: | http://filebin.ca/txmyu/profile.out |
| [08:36:42] | Beirdo: | there. you can download it :) |
| [08:37:36] | Beirdo: | look usable? |
| [08:38:17] | kormoc: | that's really what you got from a term or did you redirect it in? |
| [08:38:48] | Beirdo: | I did mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg > profile.out |
| [08:39:08] | Beirdo: | and did SOURCE Scheduler Profile.sql |
| [08:39:10] | Beirdo: | quit |
| [08:39:17] | kormoc: | ahh, yeah, sadly all the redirects kill the pretty formatting :( |
| [08:39:37] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [08:39:43] | Beirdo: | fugh |
| [08:43:40] | Beirdo: | oh beautiful |
| [08:44:01] | Beirdo: | trying to copy/paste the output in screen... gacked screen |
| [08:44:08] | kormoc: | youch |
| [08:45:11] | Beirdo: | pegged it to 100% cpu |
| [08:45:15] | Beirdo: | fun |
| [08:46:25] | Beirdo: | wonder if phpmyadmin would like it ;) |
| [08:46:37] | kormoc: | heh, unlikely |
| [08:48:45] | Beirdo: | hehe, it belched |
| [08:48:49] | Beirdo: | as expected |
| [08:50:04] | Beirdo: | not sure what else to try at the moment |
| [08:50:06] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:50:16] | kormoc: | not in screen? :P |
| [08:50:25] | Beirdo: | I guess |
| [08:50:27] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:50:35] | Beirdo: | and try to paste from putty? |
| [08:50:53] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [08:51:34] | kormoc: | I've used putty like 4 times in my life |
| [08:52:16] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:52:23] | Beirdo: | I use it all the time... |
| [08:52:37] | Beirdo: | and I need to increase the scrollback buffer |
| [08:52:38] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:55:01] | Beirdo: | http://mythtv.pastebin.com/zUJgAq62 |
| [08:55:05] | Beirdo: | let's try THAT |
| [08:55:35] | Beirdo: | still messy as crap |
| [08:56:45] | kormoc: | turn off wordwrap and it's golden :) |
| [08:56:47] | kormoc: | thanks |
| [08:57:17] | Beirdo: | wordwrap? |
| [08:57:26] | Beirdo: | in what? |
| [08:57:38] | kormoc: | your term/the page/whatnot |
| [08:58:55] | Beirdo: | no idea how to be doing that :) |
| [08:59:36] | Beirdo: | yer gonna need a hugely wide monitor for the pastebin window ;) |
| [08:59:56] | Beirdo: | it did keep the formatting at least |
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| [09:06:11] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [09:06:18] | kormoc: | tis odd that you're wrote to the disk |
| [09:07:53] | Beirdo: | weird |
| [09:08:37] | Beirdo: | I'm using stock ubuntu 10.04 config. the only thing I changed was to allow binding to non-loopback interfaces |
| [09:09:12] | Beirdo: | so it's probably fairly similar to a lot of mythbuntu installs |
| [09:10:39] | kormoc: | wget mysqltuner.pl;chmod +x mysqltuner.pl;./mysqltuner.pl |
| [09:10:40] | kormoc: | ? |
| [09:11:04] | Beirdo: | muh? |
| [09:12:13] | kormoc: | it'll run over some basic mysql vars/stats quick like :) |
| [09:12:49] | Beirdo: | oh that's cool |
| [09:12:58] | Beirdo: | I need to get a .pl domain :) |
| [09:12:58] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [09:13:36] | Beirdo: | I was thinking... but.. how do I wget a script, that's not a URL |
| [09:13:42] | kormoc: | heh |
| [09:13:46] | Beirdo: | clever of them |
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| [09:14:22] | Beirdo: | Variables to adjust: table_cache (> 64) |
| [09:14:34] | kormoc: | pastebin? |
| [09:15:01] | Beirdo: | sure, one sec |
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| [09:17:13] | Beirdo: | http://mythtv.pastebin.com/CbhzZhtw |
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| [09:18:53] | kormoc: | 20% on disk temp tables seems high to me |
| [09:19:25] | Beirdo: | yeah, that does seem high |
| [09:22:37] | Beirdo: | however, now with the text -> varchar, maybe that will be lower ongoing? |
| [09:23:12] | dtrott: | Trying to setup myth front and backend of mac I have DB connection and I can see the homerun tuner, when I try to watch TV i get "Error opening jump program file" any pointers where to start ? |
| [09:24:44] | Beirdo: | kormoc: any suggestions on a good value for table_cache? |
| [09:26:27] | kormoc: | Beirdo, don't bother, you're not going to get a better hit rate with so few connections |
| [09:26:47] | Beirdo: | k, that does make sense |
| [09:26:52] | kormoc: | tables close after awhile no matter how many you say to cache |
| [09:27:21] | kormoc: | if you want, you could go to 128, you have less tables then that |
| [09:27:29] | kormoc: | but don't bother going higher (and it will tell you you should) |
| [09:29:41] | Beirdo: | K, restarted it, we'll see what happens with a bit of time |
| [09:30:52] | Beirdo: | now it's whining that my key_buffer_size should be > 95.1M |
| [09:30:53] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [09:31:37] | kormoc: | give it time |
| [09:31:48] | kormoc: | you had a great hit ratio there, so no need to up it |
| [09:31:53] | Beirdo: | yeah, I'll let it soak |
| [09:32:50] | kormoc: | speaking of soaking... it's bed time |
| [09:33:12] | Beirdo: | the temporary tables to disk is one I'd like to reduce somehow |
| [09:33:22] | Beirdo: | yeah, bed should happen shortly here too |
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| [11:03:13] | markzed: | ? |
| [11:03:19] | markzed: | help |
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| [12:49:00] | Jay2k1: | i have a strange problem with a recording. it was recorded via dvb-t so i guess it was MPEG2, it was transcoded and is now inside a nuv container |
| [12:49:29] | Jay2k1: | after like 75% of playback, picture and sound started to stutter |
| [12:50:20] | Jay2k1: | i tried starting playback from the beginning, that works, but when i fast forward a bit or more, stuttering occurs again |
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| [12:51:16] | Jay2k1: | when i try playing it with vlc, after like 15% i lose sound completely |
| [12:51:34] | Jay2k1: | is there anything i could try to fix the file? |
| [12:51:49] | Jay2k1: | i already tried using mythcommflag to rebuild the seektable, to no avail |
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| [15:19:41] | twiggy2cents: | halp! Did you know that a amd 2800+ with 1.5 GB of ram cant handle a mpeg file! |
| [15:20:12] | twiggy2cents: | would myth transcode be more playable? |
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| [15:42:38] | GreyFoxx: | twig: It's not really yhe codec or container. The real question is what is the bitrate and resolution of the video |
| [15:43:17] | GreyFoxx: | My old sempron 2800+ played all of my SDTV mpeg2 recordings and most of my HDTV stuff. But some was just a little too much for it |
| [15:46:16] | twiggy2cents: | it is hd 720 or 1080 |
| [15:46:45] | twiggy2cents: | checking system properties doesnt tell me much for specs. what is a good video properties viewer? |
| [15:46:49] | GreyFoxx: | then sure your cpu might not be able to handle the bitrate |
| [15:47:07] | GreyFoxx: | I offten use ffmpeg -i file.mpg |
| [15:47:29] | GreyFoxx: | so yes, if you transcode it down to a lower bitrate you should be able to play it |
| [15:47:43] | GreyFoxx: | Or get a fater cpu, or use some sort of hardware decoding |
| [15:47:48] | twiggy2cents: | well this is nothing more than the recorded stream with no modification |
| [15:48:18] | twiggy2cents: | transcode failed when I ran it. I havent even looked into how it works. Im guessing it requires setting up? |
| [15:48:52] | GreyFoxx: | it would require at least basic configuration :) |
| [15:49:15] | twiggy2cents: | hmm I think it is a problem with gstreamer from what I read. It runs perfect in xine |
| [15:49:51] | GreyFoxx: | myth doesn't use gstreamer..... |
| [15:50:02] | GreyFoxx: | so if you are using it then I have no idea what you have going on :) |
| [15:50:42] | twiggy2cents: | lol that was what I read on the internet. But it still chokes on 1080 with xine. I think it looked better because it drops frames |
| [15:54:57] | twiggy2cents: | so it has to be a codec quality issue. The quality is lower with xine and gnome mplayer but plays smooth(still with high cpu load). But the stock ubuntu movie player looks like it might be better but it plays at like 1.5fps. |
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| [16:04:28] | sid3windr: | uhh wait |
| [16:04:33] | sid3windr: | is this #mythtv-users or #xine ? :| |
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| [16:09:15] | ke^: | Is there any easy way to change default value of crop filter in playback ? |
| [16:09:49] | ke^: | its 16 which is definately too big. Plus it makes for those green/purple bars also. |
| [16:10:09] | ke^: | makes me those* |
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| [17:18:49] | nichos: | hi all, are there any issues running mythfilldatabase more than just once per day? |
| [17:19:07] | nichos: | im using OTA and though about running it every 4 hours or something |
| [17:19:29] | kormoc: | there's no reason to |
| [17:20:09] | nichos: | i was thinking i'd at least get that little more more info |
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| [17:20:29] | nichos: | it runs at 2AM now, so when I come home if I ran it at 5pm, i would have that much more data |
| [17:20:35] | kormoc: | Are you using SD? |
| [17:20:38] | nichos: | no |
| [17:20:39] | nichos: | hd |
| [17:20:45] | kormoc: | Schedules Direct |
| [17:20:55] | nichos: | oh, lol no, OTA |
| [17:21:01] | kormoc: | so you're using EIT? |
| [17:21:24] | nichos: | yes |
| [17:21:31] | kormoc: | EIT is inserted as it's collected |
| [17:22:07] | nichos: | so mythfilldatabase (for me) isn't doing anything? |
| [17:22:14] | kormoc: | Correct |
| [17:22:41] | nichos: | how does it collect it? that is, i'll never watch chan 2, but it will still get program info from chan 2 |
| [17:23:10] | kormoc: | I honestly don't know the technical details behind that, but I'm sure someone else here can |
| [17:23:36] | nichos: | no big deal, just curious |
| [17:23:40] | nichos: | thanks for your help today kormoc |
| [17:23:46] | ** kormoc tips his hat ** | |
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| [17:24:02] | ** nichos is off to ponder if he should get schedules direct ** | |
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| [17:24:08] | Brad-D: | hey kormoc, when i delete something from the Recordings window, it disappears for 2 seconds, reappears for 10 seconds, and then finally disappears |
| [17:24:16] | Brad-D: | is that normal behaviour? It seems a little wierd |
| [17:25:11] | sphery: | Brad-D: what branch/version of MythTV? |
| [17:26:15] | Brad-D: | sphery: release-0-23-fixes (25231) |
| [17:28:04] | sphery: | Brad-D: shouldn't be seeing anything like that. I'd recommend updating to current 0.23-fixes and see if it's different |
| [17:28:16] | Brad-D: | okay, will do |
| [17:28:30] | Brad-D: | yeah i remember at one point hearing about some feature "slow deletes", and i thought it might have something to do with that? |
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| [19:15:12] | dpb: | I'm trying to setup my remote control with lirc and mythtv. I'm getting double clicks on each press on my remote on mythtv, but not with irw. Any ideas what could be wrong? |
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| [19:20:21] | AndyCap: | dpb: it's working as a /dev/input device too? |
| [19:20:42] | AndyCap: | dpb: if you tell us what remote you have someone might have a better answer |
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| [19:55:54] | Beirdo: | I <3 the new mattress :) |
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| [20:05:02] | SpaceBass: | hey folks |
| [20:05:51] | SpaceBass: | I'm working on purging and completely reinstalling my mythtv backend setup on ubuntu – I've reinstalled everything, purged the DB.. and when I run mythtv-setup process it says it cannot find (ping) the database host |
| [20:05:56] | SpaceBass: | the database host is localhost |
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| [20:15:44] | SpaceBass: | anyone around? |
| [20:15:53] | Beirdo: | no |
| [20:16:42] | SpaceBass: | didnt think so |
| [20:16:44] | SpaceBass: | :D |
| [20:18:58] | Beirdo: | OMG, tomorrow seems to be Top Gear marathon |
| [20:19:58] | Beirdo: | I think some IHOP would maybe be in order to inspire myself to code |
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| [20:34:14] | beauzeaux: | Have a question with LIRC and MCE remotes and IR blasting. I've gotten the remote to work, but the blaster its attached to is a no go. I've appended the remote I'm emulating and irsend seems to be working. But its not changing channels. Any Ideas? |
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| [20:41:12] | flindet: | Hi, there. Question: I'm able to record nearly all channels just fine, but Fox (both SD (8 here) and HD (608 here)) won't record or play. If I play the Fox channels with mplayer instead of mythtv, it works fine. Any ideas of why the mythtv internal player isn't working for me (what I may have misconfigured) and/or how I can work around it? I've been searching Google and can't find how to use an external player. Looks like it may have been |
| [20:41:13] | flindet: | deprecated??? I'm using 0.23 as part of Mythdora. Thanks for any potential help. |
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| [20:56:46] | flindet: | I'm also seeing a lot of this in my mythbackend.log: number of reference frames exceeds max (probably corrupt input), discarding one |
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| [21:04:21] | kormoc: | flindet, you've never been able to use a external player for tv in myth |
| [21:04:42] | kormoc: | flindet, run the frontend with -v playback and pastebin the outptu? |
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| [21:05:31] | flindet: | okay... give me a few minutes |
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| [21:09:40] | flindet: | Uh... |
| [21:10:22] | flindet: | I've had this problem for weeks... months probably, and trying to figure it out. I even confirmed it before posting my question. Even with the -v playback. It was happening then. Now when I try to capture the output, of course, the problem isn't there. |
| [21:10:23] | flindet: | *sigh* |
| [21:10:38] | flindet: | So, as bizarre and mind-blowing as this is for me, I can't recreate the problem right now. hahah |
| [21:11:05] | flindet: | So... I guess hold that thought for a later time. Maybe the channel is currently playing something with a different codec??? Is that possible? |
| [21:11:24] | flindet: | I'm looking at the SD signal. I can't look at HD currently because my tuners are currently occupied with other recordings. |
| [21:11:56] | flindet: | Thanks anyway for your willingness to help. I'll keep trying to recreate the problem and let you know when I get something up in the pastebin. Anyway, at least this is a valuable clue toward what is going on. |
| [21:11:58] | flindet: | Weird... |
| [21:13:02] | kormoc: | they can change how the encode things aye, and they typically do shift bitrates around, always keeping the popular shows looking better |
| [21:13:46] | flindet: | yeah, that's got to be what's happening to me. I'll have to grab a capture when something actually interesting plays. haha |
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| [21:32:47] | Beirdo: | OK, food devoured... time to code |
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| [21:34:43] | SpaceBass: | hey folks, my mythweb is full of bad recordings with a file size "b" |
| [21:34:54] | Beirdo: | I should also mentally schedule time to build more of the entertainment unit stuff so the mythbox can go in the cabinet, etc |
| [21:34:55] | SpaceBass: | any way to get rid of them? Deleting doesnt work, they just come back |
| [21:37:47] | SpaceBass: | wow so much broken on this re-install |
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| [21:37:57] | SpaceBass: | flash streaming not showing up in mythweb either |
| [21:41:17] | kormoc: | Delete them from the frontend |
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| [21:41:34] | kormoc: | and you are missing requirements or don't have it enabled |
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| [21:43:05] | SpaceBass: | kormoc, dont have any front ends running – any other way to delete them? |
| [21:44:14] | kormoc: | nope |
| [21:45:01] | SpaceBass: | thanks, I'll install one somewhere |
| [21:45:52] | SpaceBass: | mythexport is behaving strangely too... tried hard to purge everything before reinstalling, clearly I missed something |
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| [21:54:26] | Beirdo: | and of course, my changes are another level of complexity... |
| [21:54:34] | Beirdo: | heh, I think I'll make more coffee |
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| [21:59:57] | Beirdo: | Hmmmm |
| [22:00:07] | Beirdo: | time to learn me some dang Qt |
| [22:00:56] | Beirdo: | I want a QMap with a key of time, and a value of a structure.... |
| [22:01:00] | Beirdo: | I guess that's not too hard |
| [22:08:24] | SpaceBass: | kormoc, loaded the frontend and tried to delete the "b" files, they still come back |
| [22:10:06] | sphery: | SpaceBass: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . t_on_disk.3F |
| [22:10:21] | SpaceBass: | sphery, thanks! |
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| [22:14:01] | SpaceBass: | anyone using mythexport? thats my last hurdle, it keeps reporting that it cannot connect to the database |
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| [22:15:56] | Beirdo: | oh, FARGH! |
| [22:16:15] | Beirdo: | I need to use a class for this, don't I? |
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| [22:33:59] | Beirdo: | Hmmm |
| [22:34:16] | Beirdo: | I'm sensing potential memory leakage if I do this |
| [22:35:07] | Beirdo: | gotta be oh so careful |
| [22:35:07] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:37:50] | sphery: | here there be tigers? |
| [22:38:02] | sphery: | er, tygers |
| [22:38:18] | Beirdo: | tiggers? BOING! |
| [22:38:28] | sphery: | BOINC |
| [22:38:32] | Beirdo: | that too |
| [22:38:33] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:38:34] | sphery: | heh |
| [22:39:16] | sphery: | wow, there are actually 2 of those... |
| [22:39:26] | sphery: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_There_Be_Tygers + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Here_There_Be_Ty . . . ort_story%29 |
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| [23:01:23] | Beirdo: | OK, there's one problem with watching The Penguins of Madagascar... |
| [23:01:52] | Beirdo: | Nick likes to play cheesy crappy autotune-enabled music during commercial breaks |
| [23:03:16] | Beirdo: | OMG, that code compiled... |
| [23:03:18] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [23:03:29] | Beirdo: | time to go change the places that call it. |
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| [23:13:44] | dtrott: | I am getting "Device not configured" when I start the myth backend on mac talking to a HD homerun tuner any idea where to start ? |
| [23:17:12] | sphery: | mythtv-setup ? |
| [23:17:53] | Beirdo: | I was gonna say the documentation :) |
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| [23:21:55] | sqiush102: | on the keybaord, what is the INFO key? in mythvideo and i want to do a metadata lookup |
| [23:22:03] | sqiush102: | W does not seem to work |
| [23:23:31] | justinh: | hmm what letter does INFO start with? |
| [23:23:35] | sphery: | INFO is I |
| [23:23:44] | dtrott: | I have configured the database and done a channel scan fine I just want watch tv |
| [23:23:55] | dtrott: | want- > can't |
| [23:24:16] | dtrott: | I have googled for the error and got nothing |
| [23:25:34] | sqiush102: | only key that seems to work is M :( |
| [23:25:47] | dtrott: | HDHRSH(1016CBDA-1) Error: Set request failed eno: Device not configured (6) |
| [23:30:20] | sphery: | sqiush102: frontend, Utilities/Setup|Edit Keys |
| [23:30:36] | sphery: | and you are using a keyboard, right? |
| [23:30:37] | sqiush102: | thanks |
| [23:30:47] | sphery: | otherwise, it's likely your remote configuration is broken |
| [23:30:49] | sqiush102: | yes keyboard through vnc |
| [23:32:06] | dtrott: | on the front end I get "Error opening jump program file" any ideas ? |
| [23:33:13] | Beirdo: | oh screw this |
| [23:33:21] | Beirdo: | time to refactor code... again |
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