| Saturday, July 17th, 2010, 00:01 UTC | ||
| [00:01:39] | awalls: | seventoes: v4l2-ctl -d /dev/video0 will log status about the card on /dev/video0, including which model (at least for the ivtv driver) |
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| [00:02:05] | seventoes: | awalls: Looks like it's just the low-profile version of the PVR-150 |
| [00:02:37] | awalls: | Yeah. It could be an OEM version of the design. |
| [00:04:28] | awalls: | Or maybe just one of these: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_pvr150mclp.html |
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| [00:08:48] | seventoes: | awalls: Yeah that looks like my card! |
| [00:09:16] | seventoes: | awalls: Think the FM-IN port could be used as a second cable input? *crosses fingers* :P |
| [00:09:27] | awalls: | Nope. |
| [00:09:32] | seventoes: | yeah didn't think so |
| [00:09:34] | seventoes: | only one encoder |
| [00:09:52] | awalls: | Only one analog tuner assembly too. |
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| [00:34:50] | nwidger: | hello, anyone here familiar with psychos' mac os x build of mythfrontend? i cant figure out how to set my backend address. |
| [00:36:35] | nwidger: | nevermind i think i figured it out |
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| [00:36:55] | wagnerrp: | you dont set up the backend address on a frontend |
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| [00:43:39] | justinh: | you tell mythfrontend how to get into the database, if anything – and from there a frontend finds the master backend |
| [00:44:00] | wagnerrp: | often you dont even have to do that, it will find it on its own using UPNP |
| [00:44:21] | wagnerrp: | (oddly enough, it finds the backend, to tell it where the database is, to tell it where the backend is) |
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| [00:46:00] | wagnerrp: | anyone seen this 'Haven' on scifi? |
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| [00:51:43] | wagnerrp: | sometimes, its worth it to not skip the commercials... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhlWddAXSRA |
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| [01:22:54] | high-rez: | This may be a very old argument, and since i'm always like 6 years behind I'll have to ask it anyways. Dolby Digital or DTS? :) |
| [01:23:25] | wagnerrp: | DTS is higher bitrate, and so generally higher quality |
| [01:23:33] | wagnerrp: | but its really up to who mastered it |
| [01:23:48] | wagnerrp: | sometimes the DD track is better, sometimes the DTS track is better |
| [01:24:40] | high-rez: | Hmmf. I noticed some of my movies don't advertise DTS with the DTS logo even though they have it. |
| [01:25:37] | high-rez: | I've got killbill being pulled pulling off the dvd right now so I can have a listen (as an iso so I can switch between). |
| [01:26:23] | high-rez: | I've never had a receiver that could do DTS – let alone a quality enough audio setup so I didn't care – but now I'm curious to play with it :) |
| [01:28:28] | high-rez: | I have to say, DVD looks pretty darned good still... I have a hard time justifying the Bluray at its current price points. |
| [01:31:21] | Brad-D: | hey wagnerrp, how do you hook up the audio on your mythtv? I've always done it with a stereo cable, which is kind of ghetto. Not taking advantage of my surround sound :> |
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| [01:32:36] | high-rez: | Brad-D: I know your question isn't to me but I'll chime in anyways. I've got HDMI out (i have an nvidia 210 with real hdmi) out to my receiver. One cable out of myth and done. :D |
| [01:33:34] | wagnerrp: | stereo cable on one, hdmi on the other |
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| [01:36:07] | Brad-D: | wow i didn't realize that hdmi did audio as well |
| [01:36:11] | Brad-D: | i will have to play around with that |
| [01:36:20] | Brad-D: | last time i played with hdmi, it was giving me video headaches |
| [01:36:21] | high-rez: | Hmmf, I think this disk has intentional bad blocks to prevent ripping :( |
| [01:36:28] | Brad-D: | is there any other way to hook it up for 5.1 sound? |
| [01:36:46] | high-rez: | I've never had a problem with video over hdmi – though audio isn't quite as straight forward |
| [01:37:00] | high-rez: | Its possible to hook it up for 7.1 even (LPCM) |
| [01:37:16] | Brad-D: | for the audio, are you using alsa high-rez? |
| [01:37:34] | wagnerrp: | if you actually have HDMI audio, and not just SPDIF over HDMI |
| [01:37:36] | high-rez: | From what i've been told/read ALSA doesn't quite support passing TrueHD DTS-HD through yet |
| [01:38:07] | high-rez: | what wagner said, e.g. geforce 2xx card |
| [01:38:34] | wagnerrp: | of 8/9 series onboard |
| [01:38:38] | wagnerrp: | s/of/or/ |
| [01:38:41] | high-rez: | i made the mistake of buying a 9600 (?) which had a pass through cable. returned it for the 210 – and i'm totally happy with it. |
| [01:38:52] | Brad-D: | i think i have an onboard 9600 |
| [01:38:54] | high-rez: | wagnerrp: Is that right? E.g. the IONs should work then ? |
| [01:39:28] | Brad-D: | high-rez: what did you notice improvement wise on your new card, i was pondering getting a 2xx card, so i could play with more strenuous deinterlacers |
| [01:39:38] | high-rez: | There also appears to be a bug where if you're using onboard nvidia audio and an external card that enumeration fails – and not all is right. |
| [01:39:51] | wagnerrp: | yes, IONs should have full HDMI audio |
| [01:40:17] | high-rez: | Well the 210 can't do deinterlacing as well as my 8600GT could. But it had down high quality scaling – which from a very subjective analysis looks great. |
| [01:40:50] | high-rez: | I think the other 2XX (e.g. non 210) are prohibitively expensive for use in dedicated video machines at this point. |
| [01:41:24] | Brad-D: | hmmm, i wonder if i would get much of an upgrade visually going to a 220 from a 9600? i thought it might be a cheap $60 upgrade to play with |
| [01:41:26] | high-rez: | My receiver also does some magic to the video |
| [01:42:18] | high-rez: | I paid $50 for my 210 – i haven't seen any 220's for 60 bucks – but i guess i havent looked |
| [01:43:15] | Brad-D: | 60-ish |
| [01:44:36] | Brad-D: | well i guess it's time to attack hdmi with renewed vigour, and get my 5.1 sound up and going |
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| [02:32:14] | high-rez: | Pfft |
| [02:32:18] | high-rez: | KB2 – same error. |
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| [05:53:54] | joot: | Can someone please advise me on which satelitte card(s) work with minimal config?? |
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| [06:05:26] | araldit: | Cant have my frontend close down my computer. Anyone know where I setup which shutdown script it uses. |
| [06:05:58] | wagnerrp: | is this a dedicated frontend? |
| [06:06:11] | araldit: | yes |
| [06:06:18] | wagnerrp: | using a remote? |
| [06:06:22] | araldit: | yes |
| [06:06:33] | wagnerrp: | just use irexec with the power button on your remote |
| [06:06:55] | araldit: | That could be a solution |
| [06:07:17] | joot: | Can someone please advise me on which satellite card(s) work with minimal config?? |
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| [06:07:49] | araldit: | I use HVR-4000 |
| [06:08:17] | pet: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S_Devices |
| [06:08:30] | pet: | oops, bad link |
| [06:09:02] | joot: | thanks araldit. |
| [06:09:11] | araldit: | wagnerrp: I think I need a script run by the frontend when it exits. If fi. I enable sleep timer, it should also shutdown the machine.. |
| [06:09:31] | wagnerrp: | no, the sleep timer is merely to exit livetv |
| [06:09:41] | wagnerrp: | so you dont leave it run needlessly for hours on end |
| [06:09:47] | araldit: | wagnerrp: Is that right? |
| [06:09:53] | araldit: | wagnerrp: Useless |
| [06:09:58] | joot: | pet, the link worked why is it bad? |
| [06:10:09] | wagnerrp: | why is that useless? |
| [06:10:48] | pet: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_capture_card . . . _with_MythTV |
| [06:10:50] | wagnerrp: | it may not be a solution to your problem, but it certainly has its uses |
| [06:11:02] | araldit: | wagnerrp: Every other device having a sleeptimer will shutdown when times up... Thats what I expect it too |
| [06:11:15] | joot: | pet: thanks |
| [06:11:43] | wagnerrp: | araldit: it will drop out of livetv, re-enabled the DPMS on your video output, and the monitor/tv will shutdown on its own when DPMS kicks in |
| [06:12:20] | araldit: | wagnerrp: But the frontend will stay on, leaving the backend running as well |
| [06:12:44] | araldit: | wagnerrp: My backend shutsdown on idle |
| [06:13:25] | pet: | anyone have time to help me troubleshooting mythtv 0.23 after ubuntu 9.10->10.04 'upgrade'? |
| [06:16:12] | araldit: | wagnerrp: I think I will have to issue a bug request then. It must be a bug when the menu in myth saying exit and shutdown cant shutdown. |
| [06:16:36] | wagnerrp: | exit and shutdown should work if you have the shutdown script defined on that host |
| [06:16:51] | wagnerrp: | in fact, it shouldnt even show up if you dont have the shutdown script defined on that host |
| [06:17:47] | araldit: | wagnerrp: But then, where is it defined |
| [06:18:48] | wagnerrp: | probably mythtv-setup |
| [06:18:54] | wagnerrp: | since thats generally handled by the backend |
| [06:19:46] | araldit: | wagnerrp: Yeah, there is a shutdown script defined in there, but its for the backend to use. |
| [06:19:57] | wagnerrp: | there is a major rewrite of the settings planned for 0.25, hopefully all this stuff gets reorganized at that point |
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| [06:21:12] | araldit: | wagnerrp: Good to hear. Im beginning setting a dev session up my self. Would be nice to change some of these annoying things as they come. |
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| [06:25:57] | pet: | after ubuntu 9.10->10.04 (also updates mythtv to 0.23) the frontend claims it can not connect to the backend. database and backend running, on frontend startup it is able to access all the settings but after kicking up the UI, I get errormessage MythContext: Connecting to backend server: 192.168.255.4:6543 (try 1 of 1) Connection to master server timed out. Everything worked ok before the OS upgrade |
| [06:27:19] | wagnerrp: | is that even a valid address |
| [06:27:26] | wagnerrp: | i didnt think you were allowed to use 255 |
| [06:27:33] | wagnerrp: | that was reserved for broadcast stuff |
| [06:31:26] | pet: | ip.address is correct, if I run mythfrontend -v all, then the connection messages start like: 2010-07–17 00:49:46.593 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168.255 |
| [06:31:26] | pet: | .4 |
| [06:31:26] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:49:46.593 MSqlQuery::exec(DBManager0) SELECT data FROM settings WH |
| [06:31:26] | pet: | ERE value = 'runfrontendinwindow' AND hostname = 'petkoti1' <<<< Returns 1 row(s |
| [06:31:27] | pet: | ) |
| [06:32:21] | pet: | after that the frontend starts, and starts getting info from the database like 2010-07–17 00:49:46.986 MSqlQuery::exec(DBManager0) SELECT data FROM settings WH |
| [06:32:21] | pet: | ERE value = 'lcdshowtime' AND hostname = 'petkoti1' <<<< Returns 1 row(s) |
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| [06:33:50] | wagnerrp: | is your backend still set to listen on that address? (and not 127.0.0.1) |
| [06:35:35] | wagnerrp: | nevermind, it has to be |
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| [06:35:52] | pet: | the 1st error in the -v all output is 2010-07–17 00:49:48.175 MythContext: Connecting to backend server: 192.168.255.4:6543 (try 1 of 1) |
| [06:35:52] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:49:48.175 MythSocket(a0fe458:49): new socket |
| [06:35:52] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:49:48.175 MythSocket(a0fe458:49): attempting connect() to (192.168.255.4:6543) |
| [06:35:52] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:49:48.175 MythSocket(a0fe458:49): connect() failed (ConnectionRefused) |
| [06:36:05] | wagnerrp: | firewall maybe? |
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| [06:36:45] | pet: | beats me :), the backend seems to be up: |
| [06:36:56] | pet: | pet@petkoti1:~$ sudo lsof -i -n -P|grep mythback |
| [06:36:56] | pet: | [sudo] password for pet: |
| [06:36:56] | pet: | mythbacke 1105 mythtv 0u IPv4 4736 0t0 TCP 192.168.255.4:54052->192.168.255.4:3306 (ESTABLISHED) |
| [06:36:57] | pet: | mythbacke 1105 mythtv 7u IPv4 4719 0t0 TCP 192.168.255.4:54051->192.168.255.4:3306 (ESTABLISHED) |
| [06:36:59] | pet: | mythbacke 1105 mythtv 8u IPv4 4753 0t0 TCP 192.168.255.4:54053->192.168.255.4:3306 (ESTABLISHED) |
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| [06:37:34] | pet: | but if it is the firewall, how then during the startup the frontend is able to get the settings from the db? |
| [06:38:18] | wagnerrp: | dont know what to tell you |
| [06:39:16] | pet: | not sure how to test whether the connection to the socket is blocked |
| [06:39:33] | wagnerrp: | if youre getting ConnectionRefused, you are |
| [06:41:16] | wagnerrp: | check your backend logs to see why its not listening on that socket |
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| [06:43:57] | pet: | first a couple of these: |
| [06:43:58] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.742 New DB connection, total: 1 |
| [06:43:58] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.749 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168.255.4 |
| [06:43:59] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.752 Closing DB connection named 'DBManager0' |
| [06:43:59] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.755 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168.255.4 |
| [06:43:59] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.763 Current MythTV Schema Version (DBSchemaVer): 1254 |
| [06:44:01] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.768 MythBackend: Starting up as the master server. |
| [06:44:03] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.775 New DB connection, total: 2 |
| [06:44:05] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.777 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168.255.4 |
| [06:44:07] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.782 New DB connection, total: 3 |
| [06:44:09] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:41:54.787 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168.255.4 |
| [06:44:12] | pet: | but then |
| [06:44:13] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:55:19.356 UPnPautoconf() – No UPnP backends found |
| [06:44:15] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:55:19.359 No UPnP backends found |
| [06:44:17] | pet: | No UPnP backends found |
| [06:44:18] | wagnerrp: | please dont paste more than 2 lines in a time into the channel |
| [06:44:19] | pet: | Would you like to configure the database connection now? [no] |
| [06:44:21] | pet: | [console is not interactive, using default 'no'] |
| [06:44:23] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:55:19.379 Deleting UPnP client... |
| [06:44:27] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:55:19.381 QMulticastSocket: setsockopt – IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP Error |
| [06:44:29] | pet: | 2010-07–17 00:55:20.600 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. |
| [06:44:31] | pet: | sorry |
| [06:44:45] | wagnerrp: | so your database access is not set up |
| [06:44:53] | wagnerrp: | and since the backend is not being run interactively, it is closing |
| [06:44:58] | wagnerrp: | your backend is /not/ running |
| [06:45:16] | pet: | ps ax|grep mythback returns a running process |
| [06:45:31] | pet: | 1105 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/mythbackend --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --user mythtv |
| [06:45:54] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend is not the backend process |
| [06:46:17] | pet: | ok, what is the backend process? |
| [06:46:58] | wagnerrp: | in mythbuntu, mythbackend is just a wrapper script, and the real backend process has been moved to mythbackend.real |
| [06:47:08] | wagnerrp: | (i think) |
| [06:47:25] | wagnerrp: | i know mythtv-setup and mythfrontend are wrapped, mythbackend may not be |
| [06:47:54] | pet: | pet@petkoti1:/var/log/mythtv$ file /usr/bin/mythbackend |
| [06:47:54] | pet: | /usr/bin/mythbackend: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped |
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| [06:48:08] | pet: | doesn't seem to be wrapper |
| [06:48:56] | wagnerrp: | the logs say the backend exited |
| [06:49:11] | wagnerrp: | who knows what that thing is |
| [06:49:17] | wagnerrp: | did you manually run the backend on your own? |
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| [06:50:00] | ** cesman wonders why all the wrappers... ** | |
| [06:50:02] | pet: | tried just now by running as root: sudo /usr/bin/mythbackend --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --user mythtv |
| [06:50:16] | pet: | previously run with /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start |
| [06:50:56] | wagnerrp: | cesman: its so they can do things like ensure the backend is running before you run the frontend |
| [06:51:02] | wagnerrp: | or close the backend prior to running mythtv-setup |
| [06:52:04] | wagnerrp: | pet: you must have a /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt defining the database access credentials |
| [06:54:09] | wagnerrp: | ive never used mythbuntu |
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| [06:54:25] | pet: | not mythbuntu, Ubuntu with mythtv installed |
| [06:54:27] | wagnerrp: | and they screw with the environment to rearrange things from where i and mythtv normally expect stuff to be |
| [06:54:30] | wagnerrp: | pet: same thing |
| [06:54:43] | wagnerrp: | youll probably get better help in #mythbuntu |
| [06:54:48] | pet: | thanks |
| [06:55:14] | araldit: | pet: I use mythbuntu |
| [06:56:20] | araldit: | pet: Whats you problem |
| [06:56:58] | araldit: | pet: I remember that I had to specify the right user to run the backend, else it wouldnt find the right configuration files |
| [06:58:28] | wagnerrp: | if you do things as they document and expect, your user and environment will be set up properly automatically |
| [06:58:36] | pet: | nope |
| [06:58:44] | araldit: | wa |
| [06:58:47] | araldit: | ups |
| [06:59:29] | pet: | had a running system ubuntu 9.10 with the supported 0.22 and made OS upgrade which also updates mythtv to 0.22 which broke a functioning setup |
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| [06:59:47] | araldit: | pet: I had to add the line: USER=mythtv in my /etc/default/mythtv-backend file.. Dont know if thats you problem though |
| [07:00:05] | araldit: | pet: Wird IP by the way |
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| [07:06:20] | araldit: | wagnerrp: It works like a charm with the remote control shutdown button. Thanks. Im using a PS3 remote because of the bluetooth, but it doesn't have a shutdown button. What remote do u use? |
| [07:06:34] | wagnerrp: | mceusb |
| [07:07:04] | wagnerrp: | anyone know their way around regexs? |
| [07:08:07] | pet: | on a very limited level |
| [07:08:45] | dustybin: | hello\nworld\n |
| [07:09:09] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: would a change like: |
| [07:09:11] | jstenback: | -#!/usr/local/bin/python |
| [07:09:11] | jstenback: | +#!/usr/bin/env python |
| [07:09:23] | jstenback: | be ok to take for mythtv/bindings/python/scripts/mythpython ? |
| [07:09:44] | jstenback: | such that the script would work for those who don't have python installed in /usr/local/bin? |
| [07:09:53] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [07:10:04] | jstenback: | ok then |
| [07:10:17] | wagnerrp: | are you running 0.23 or trunk? |
| [07:10:29] | jstenback: | .23 |
| [07:10:44] | wagnerrp: | ah, well in trunk, that would be irrelevant |
| [07:10:53] | wagnerrp: | the bang path is replaced by the installer |
| [07:10:54] | jstenback: | I hacked it locally, so no worries here, just wondering for others... |
| [07:11:22] | jstenback: | ah, ok |
| [07:11:27] | jstenback: | no worries then |
| [07:11:28] | jstenback: | thanks! |
| [07:11:52] | wagnerrp: | i should probably change that in -fixes... |
| [07:12:04] | wagnerrp: | especially considering most linux distros install to /usr/bin/python |
| [07:12:11] | wagnerrp: | rendering that program broken |
| [07:12:12] | jstenback: | yeah... |
| [07:13:52] | wagnerrp: | done |
| [07:18:07] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: excellent, thank you! |
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| [08:42:12] | paras: | why doesn't mythtv auto-transcode new recordings altough i set it in it's configuration ? |
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| [09:25:54] | paras: | why doesn't mythtv auto-transcode new recordings altough i set it in it's configuration ? |
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| [09:54:50] | justinh: | why doesn't anybody ever look in logs for clues when mythtv isn't doing what they expect? |
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| [09:55:45] | Beirdo: | because they are lazy? :) |
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| [09:56:25] | ofgj: | hello i've got a problem with mythtv, recordings aren't stored correctly... please take a look at http://mythtv.pastebin.com/8UiSDESN thank you very much in advance |
| [09:57:14] | Beirdo: | time to head to the hotel. 6am. BLAH |
| [09:58:46] | justinh: | wow that's one very short log |
| [09:59:34] | ofgj: | justinh: there's more, if you like to see the whole thing, i can paste it |
| [09:59:59] | ofgj: | justinh: i only pasted the part that was generated when trying to open the file |
| [10:00:13] | justinh: | ofgj: that log excerpt doesn't show anything of interest. we often find users doing this miss things |
| [10:00:20] | justinh: | ofgj: yes, that's the *symptom* |
| [10:00:34] | justinh: | but not the underlying *cause* which is likely somewhere else in the logfile |
| [10:00:36] | ofgj: | justinh: jep ok mompls |
| [10:01:21] | justinh: | good so far though.. mythbackend runs as a user with write permission on the dir where recordings are stored. that's a start |
| [10:01:37] | justinh: | so whatever's wrong isn't that mythbackend can't write files |
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| [10:07:09] | justinh: | long mom, this |
| [10:07:30] | bjd: | your mom! |
| [10:07:58] | ofgj: | justinh: ok so i pasted the whole thing – you need to know that the early errors (no database connection etc.) weren't my fault – they occured directly after the installation – i already solved them http://mythtv.pastebin.com/ujYmRfx3 |
| [10:08:37] | ofgj: | justinh: had to |
| [10:08:47] | justinh: | usually all log since the last backend startup is enough |
| [10:10:50] | justinh: | looks like there are still issues connecting to mysql |
| [10:11:11] | ofgj: | justinh: sorry i know i had to accept a package from the mailman – this is why it took so long :-/ — mom i'll take a second look on it too |
| [10:11:47] | ofgj: | justinh: maybe only mathweb can establish a correct mysql connection? |
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| [10:13:30] | ofgj: | justinh: i manually entered the password into the configuration dialogue and into /etc/mythtv/config.xml because after the installation no passwords were set there although there is one set for the mythtv-db-user |
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| [10:32:12] | bugger: | hi all – i'm running mythtv on linux – i can't play dvd's, it says it can't find the root device |
| [10:32:31] | bugger: | the device apparently is /dev/sr0 although it's an ide dvd drive |
| [10:32:50] | bugger: | ogle can't find the dvd drive either |
| [10:32:57] | bugger: | any suggestions what i should be doing? |
| [10:33:12] | bugger: | there's no /dev/hd* devices or /dev/cdrom* devices in /dev |
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| [11:26:12] | oobe: | bugger, you question is to do with configuring linux and udev rules to make sure your ide device is detected correctly |
| [11:27:02] | bugger: | oobe: yeah and that seems to not be happening although when i hit optical drives play dvd it does list my drives as sr0 and sr1 |
| [11:27:07] | bugger: | with correct names |
| [11:27:13] | bugger: | it just can't access them |
| [11:27:23] | bugger: | but yeah it is really a debian problem |
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| [11:27:53] | oobe: | have you tryed mounting data disks with the same drive or burning dvd's |
| [11:28:33] | oobe: | that is the first thing i would do to make sure fstab and udev were setup correctly |
| [11:29:55] | bugger: | it seems not to be |
| [11:30:03] | bugger: | for some reason i just can't access /dev/sr0 |
| [11:30:11] | bugger: | i've tried chmod 777'ing it |
| [11:31:54] | bugger: | hrmm just got mplayer to do it |
| [11:32:01] | bugger: | maybe it is still permissions causing the problem |
| [11:33:32] | oobe: | is there symlinks in /dev like /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrom |
| [11:33:46] | oobe: | check where they are linked to |
| [11:34:01] | oobe: | also check cat /var/log/messages | grep ATA |
| [11:34:46] | oobe: | and cat /var/log/messages | grep ATAPI |
| [11:35:00] | bugger: | yep ok for some reason now after the chmod i can play them in mplayer but in mythfrontend i get lock ups |
| [11:35:13] | bugger: | just sits with blank screen |
| [11:35:23] | oobe: | check the frontend logs |
| [11:35:23] | bugger: | i'll check those logs |
| [11:35:31] | bugger: | yup |
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| [11:58:12] | orly_owl: | is there a crt tv with vga input? |
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| [12:08:25] | oobe: | probably not |
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| [12:24:47] | orly_owl: | i should just use a monitor |
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| [12:26:51] | gbee: | anyone know where I can find out whether BD+ or just aacs is used on a Bluray disc before purchasing? |
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| [12:39:52] | oobe: | orly_owl, http://www.laikeet.com/catalog/images/CBA0_03.jpg somthing like that or variations of would work with a crt tv if it has composite |
| [12:40:42] | orly_owl: | the video card needs to support that though |
| [12:41:04] | oobe: | what card is it |
| [12:41:24] | orly_owl: | radeon 7500 |
| [12:42:05] | oobe: | oh is this that mobo you bought a while ago |
| [12:42:31] | oobe: | did you fix the cpu problem |
| [12:42:38] | orly_owl: | uh no |
| [12:42:45] | orly_owl: | this radeon 7500 is in a p3 |
| [12:42:51] | orly_owl: | i didnt fix the cpu :/ |
| [12:43:04] | orly_owl: | no one will lend me a cpu to upgrade the BIOS with |
| [12:43:33] | oobe: | hmm |
| [12:43:48] | oobe: | is this going to be a backend fe on the p3 |
| [12:43:57] | oobe: | it wont be very good |
| [12:44:18] | orly_owl: | a p3 fe |
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| [12:45:06] | oobe: | ok |
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| [12:45:27] | orly_owl: | not sure what to make the be |
| [12:45:33] | orly_owl: | maybe the coreboot pc |
| [12:45:44] | orly_owl: | although rather make it my desktop |
| [12:45:50] | orly_owl: | maybe it can be both! |
| [12:45:55] | oobe: | i replaced my p4 fe it was fast enough for video playback but it was a bit frustrating to scroll through menus with the new ui themes |
| [12:46:11] | oobe: | yea it can be both |
| [12:46:14] | orly_owl: | what did you replace it with |
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| [12:46:25] | oobe: | since you run linux anyway |
| [12:46:34] | orly_owl: | yeah trisquel |
| [12:46:40] | orly_owl: | which will be tricky |
| [12:46:49] | oobe: | most ppl who have backends that sole purpose is mythtv dont use linux as there main OS |
| [12:46:59] | orly_owl: | ah |
| [12:46:59] | oobe: | well thats an assumption |
| [12:47:07] | oobe: | but i do |
| [12:47:22] | orly_owl: | this way i could have a small box under the tv |
| [12:47:25] | justinh: | bad assumption IMHO |
| [12:47:26] | oobe: | and the backend just plods along with no real interference |
| [12:47:41] | gbee: | v. bad assumption |
| [12:48:06] | oobe: | i cant imagine having a dedicated backend |
| [12:48:06] | justinh: | most people who don't want the expense or complexity of trying to build a small quiet capacious combined system for under the TV have backends solely assigned to mythtv |
| [12:48:12] | oobe: | i never had one |
| [12:48:26] | justinh: | right, so peg everybody else under the same banner then :) |
| [12:48:40] | oobe: | i still have a remote frontend |
| [12:48:43] | justinh: | most people running a mythtv backend *are* running linux :P |
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| [12:48:54] | orly_owl: | id also like irblaster to control the tv |
| [12:48:58] | oobe: | all i mean is i dont use my backend pc strictly for mythtv |
| [12:49:10] | oobe: | its a desktop it does all the normal things to |
| [12:49:22] | justinh: | well so? most mortals don't have mail servers at home either :) |
| [12:49:23] | oobe: | its not sitting in a cuboard waiting to record |
| [12:49:32] | justinh: | this is all incidental |
| [12:50:41] | oobe: | anyway the point is orly_owl you can use your existing linux install to run the backend |
| [12:50:58] | orly_owl: | yeah i got that :) |
| [12:51:04] | orly_owl: | before the fight started |
| [12:51:06] | oobe: | as long as it has a tuner and other requirements etc. |
| [12:51:21] | justinh: | and hoping to be able to use a ps3 as a frontend is.. er.. well a hope. good luck with that |
| [12:52:04] | justinh: | whoah. where the heck did I get that from? lol |
| [12:52:10] | ** justinh winds his neck in ** | |
| [12:53:52] | orly_owl: | there should be a decent looking miniatx case for fe |
| [12:54:18] | justinh: | well yeah there should be, but there aren't that many |
| [12:54:27] | orly_owl: | :/ |
| [12:54:35] | orly_owl: | i could do atx then |
| [12:54:44] | orly_owl: | not too massive though |
| [12:54:48] | justinh: | if any. I mean they all seem to have something wrong with them. front mounted ports with no cover to hide them... |
| [12:55:14] | orly_owl: | oh thats not too bad |
| [12:55:23] | justinh: | my LC02 case was about the best I could afford 5 years ago or so, but it's still just a box |
| [12:55:31] | orly_owl: | also, is irblaster for the tv possible? |
| [12:55:47] | gbee: | wonder if I can class these Bluray as development related and file an expense claim with MythTV Org :p |
| [12:55:50] | justinh: | sure but it's much easier to use a universal remote |
| [12:56:37] | oobe: | i spent ages looking at cases and writing up a list of parts |
| [12:57:05] | oobe: | i ended up buying a tiny acer revo atom ion thing instead |
| [12:57:19] | oobe: | tiny and silent much smaller than anything i could of built |
| [12:57:43] | oobe: | might of turned out a bit cheaper too |
| [12:57:58] | justinh: | my next frontend is mostly going to be... the backend machine.. hidden in the cupboard under the stairs |
| [12:58:31] | gbee: | I still consider my be/fe case as one of the best purchases I've ever made, yes it has front ports which aren't hidden away but at least there is a logical reason for them to be at the front, unlike most HTPC cases which have at least one thing at the front which makes no sense and which cost 4x as much |
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| [12:59:37] | justinh: | audio ports have no place on the front of a HTPC case IMHO |
| [13:00:29] | gbee: | justinh: headphone and possibly mic do IMHO |
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| [13:00:50] | gbee: | http://miffteevee.co.uk/build/large-13.png |
| [13:01:13] | gbee: | mic is harder to justify purely because I'd almost never use it |
| [13:02:09] | gbee: | although if using mythphone/video conferencing then ... |
| [13:02:15] | justinh: | ok then headphone, but make it look nice, not the cheap-ass PC97 colour :) |
| [13:02:23] | justinh: | mythphone? heheh |
| [13:03:22] | justinh: | my AV receiver has sockets on the front, but none of them look awful or out of place |
| [13:03:53] | gbee: | aye I know it's dead, but since my sister moved to Sydney and we've started to use Skype to keep in touch, I can at least see a reason for wanting video conferencing via a TV (bit hard to gather a family around a small laptop) |
| [13:04:36] | gbee: | and for the sake of those with poor eyesight, the PC97 color does at least make it very easy to get the headphones plugged into the right socket |
| [13:05:23] | gbee: | from a distance it's not something you notice or which appears out of place |
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| [13:08:36] | gbee: | well whether or not anyone agrees (and aesthetics can be a personal thing), I like my case for the price I paid, http://miffteevee.co.uk/build/large-13.png ... sweet |
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| [13:11:14] | gbee: | the compact flash, duo, slot micro ports are redundant since SD won that battle, about the only thing I'd change is to get rid of them leaving just the SD slot |
| [13:11:34] | orly_owl: | cf is found in dslrs |
| [13:14:06] | gbee: | yeah, but even Canon is switching to SDHC now |
| [13:14:31] | rileyp: | has anyone here tried mythpodcaster |
| [13:14:34] | orly_owl: | what about the other |
| [13:14:51] | gbee: | not that I'm a DSLR expert, I don't really know what everyone in the field is doing |
| [13:14:52] | orly_owl: | gbee: where did you get a tuner card with av input |
| [13:14:53] | rileyp: | http://code.google.com/p/mythpodcaster/wiki/I . . . lation_Steps |
| [13:15:08] | gbee: | orly_owl: ? |
| [13:15:16] | orly_owl: | http://miffteevee.co.uk/build/large-5.png |
| [13:15:29] | gbee: | that's a PVR-150 |
| [13:15:33] | gbee: | don't use it anymore |
| [13:15:41] | orly_owl: | is it digital |
| [13:15:57] | justinh: | nope |
| [13:16:07] | gbee: | analogue with hardware encoder |
| [13:16:14] | gbee: | writes out mpeg-2 |
| [13:16:14] | orly_owl: | ill pass then |
| [13:16:44] | justinh: | any digital tuner that has analogue video inputs will mostly just be a framegrabber in all probability & should be avoided |
| [13:16:59] | gbee: | orly_owl: I don't use either of those cards anymore, I replaced the single tuner DVB-T with a dual tuner and the PVR-150 with a DVB-S |
| [13:17:17] | justinh: | some digital tuners have analogue capability *and* mpeg encoding onboard |
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| [13:17:25] | orly_owl: | gbee: do your current cards need firmware |
| [13:17:38] | justinh: | but unless you can do both at the same time with them they're a bit of a waste of space |
| [13:17:57] | justinh: | oh god no. not this 'muh the firmware has to be open source' schtick again |
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| [13:18:12] | gbee: | the Nova-T 500 does, but it's an install and forget thing |
| [13:18:19] | orly_owl: | ok |
| [13:20:00] | gbee: | actually almost nothing seen in those photos apart from the case remains, I replaced the mobo with a vdpau capable one, both tuner cards, bigger disks, new optical drive (previous one was faulty), new silent 80 plus PSU |
| [13:21:13] | gbee: | quieter CPU fan, same CPU and memory though |
| [13:22:53] | gbee: | not that there was anything wrong with the original mobo, it was beautiful |
| [13:24:45] | bjd: | Chaps, looking at a board with onboard nvidia/hdmi – any suggestions? |
| [13:25:38] | bjd: | ion boards seem to have atom processors which i don't really want – yet i can't seem to find anything i can drop a cpu into that has nvidia onboard |
| [13:27:31] | gbee: | ASUS do some nice nvidia boards |
| [13:27:49] | gbee: | but generally nvidia goes hand in hand with AMD CPUs |
| [13:28:15] | gbee: | which as far as I'm concerned is a win-win |
| [13:28:56] | bjd: | do you know of any models off the top of your head? |
| [13:29:14] | bjd: | CPU vendor doesn't bother me tbh – so long as it works(tm) |
| [13:29:25] | justinh: | the irony of nvidia boards even accepting amd cpus is totally lost on me |
| [13:30:35] | AndyCap: | hopefully the ati chipset engineers got bumped and not the amd ones. :P |
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| [13:31:54] | gbee: | bjd: they've brought out all new lines since I was buying so I can't name a particular model, I'd browse their site or google |
| [13:32:12] | bjd: | Yeah, i'll take another look |
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| [13:32:22] | bjd: | last i looked they didn't do anything in matx form |
| [13:32:42] | gbee: | justinh: yeah, it's a touch ironic, but it speaks volumes about their relationship with Intel |
| [13:34:05] | gbee: | bjd: my board is an matx with nvidia + hdmi, don't see why they'd stop offering boards with that configuration, they were _very_ popular, a lot of people in here bought the same one and it was widely popular for HTPC systems |
| [13:34:45] | AndyCap: | how are zotac btw? http://www.anandtech.com/show/2950 cpu socket and ion. (not matx and not amd though) |
| [13:35:11] | bjd: | I saw that, but no pci slot for my tuner :/ |
| [13:38:00] | AndyCap: | oh, all in one |
| [13:38:39] | AndyCap: | the world needs more pcie tuners. :P |
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| [13:40:20] | gbee: | the world needs pcie tuners – there fixed it for you |
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| [13:40:47] | gbee: | Hauppauge employees take note, we want pcie and we want it now |
| [13:41:27] | gbee: | and if you're listening, DVB-T2 too |
| [13:42:37] | bjd: | Heh |
| [13:42:51] | AndyCap: | I'll settle for the russian option if I can get my hands on one |
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| [13:43:32] | AndyCap: | bjd: http://www.zotac.com/index.php?option=com_wra . . . &lang=nd |
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| [13:51:19] | bjd: | Yeah, just seeing if I can find anywhere that sells: http://pden.zotac.com/index.php?page=shop.bro . . . amp;Itemid=1 |
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| [14:07:32] | rileyp: | Anyone want to help me fsort out my mythpodcaster on ubuntu |
| [14:09:54] | justinh: | nobody in #mythbuntu I'm guessing |
| [14:10:41] | rileyp: | justinh there is never anyone in mythbuntu when Im online |
| [14:11:48] | justinh: | heh |
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| [14:16:16] | justinh: | so anyway what's there to sort out? all looks pretty straightforward on their wiki |
| [14:18:47] | rileyp: | justinh http://pastebin.com/iuNpap0S |
| [14:19:37] | justinh: | nasty. whatever the heck all that is, it looks decidedly nasty |
| [14:20:20] | justinh: | but line 14 seems to tell a familiar tale |
| [14:20:57] | rileyp: | all the default dirs are different in ubuntu to rh and I had to change a few to make err suposedly good |
| [14:21:08] | rileyp: | so you saying it cannot acess mysql |
| [14:21:18] | justinh: | that's what it looks like |
| [14:21:36] | justinh: | not saying that's what it is but that's what it looks like to me |
| [14:22:36] | rileyp: | I have enabled mythconverg for remote clients I can control it with my imote ! |
| [14:22:51] | wagnerrp: | you can control your database with your remote? |
| [14:23:07] | wagnerrp: | i cant fathom the usefulness of that |
| [14:23:37] | justinh: | didn't know they used a bunch of stinking java for that though |
| [14:24:16] | justinh: | and I still fail to see the point of mythpodcaster even *needing* a web interface |
| [14:24:32] | wagnerrp: | justinh: you need to learn to stop worrying and love the bean |
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| [14:24:39] | justinh: | I've got a user job script that generates podcast xml |
| [14:24:39] | rileyp: | no they dont for mymote but they do for mythpodcaster |
| [14:24:46] | justinh: | wagnerrp: that's what they said in 1991 |
| [14:24:56] | wagnerrp: | s/1991/1964/ |
| [14:25:00] | justinh: | stinking frickin java |
| [14:25:24] | rileyp: | I m with you justinh 8 hours in and I hate the shit |
| [14:25:34] | justinh: | I think I still feel wronged by Sun having seen them sell off all their manufacturing & been made redundant by them twice |
| [14:25:42] | rileyp: | I might be better off with mythexport |
| [14:25:55] | justinh: | you might be better off making your own :) |
| [14:26:05] | wagnerrp: | wow... now /thats/ a traceback |
| [14:26:16] | wagnerrp: | over 300 lines, and thats apparently trimmed |
| [14:26:26] | justinh: | all my user job does is transcode a recording to a directory & run another script which generates xml :) |
| [14:26:43] | justinh: | that's all it *needs* to do. that's all *any* podcast generating job needs to do |
| [14:26:45] | rileyp: | justinh you have already done that |
| [14:26:52] | dmfrey: | i was setting up a job to run on individual backends. I was trying to pass in the DIR param, but the value it is passing is something like myth://..., I thought it would pass in the local directory path, is there a new job variable that does that? |
| [14:27:20] | justinh: | dmfrey: just pass a directory as a parameter & parse it in the script |
| [14:27:40] | justinh: | if you use the right method your user job can find the file path itself |
| [14:27:46] | wagnerrp: | dmfrey: it may send that value if the recording cannot be found locally |
| [14:27:57] | dmfrey: | justinh: but if my recordings are in different storage groups |
| [14:28:01] | justinh: | so? |
| [14:28:19] | wagnerrp: | depending on your script language, you could pull the location out of the database yourself |
| [14:28:20] | justinh: | oh remote SGs. yuk |
| [14:28:52] | ** wagnerrp just passed %JOBID% into his stuff ** | |
| [14:29:03] | dmfrey: | well, i want to pass in the local dir path on the each backend, and have the script run on each backend |
| [14:29:08] | justinh: | my dvbradioexport.pl script finds the paths to stuff just fine |
| [14:29:40] | dmfrey: | wagnerrp: ok, btw...thanks for the info on mythxml, it was exactly what i was looking for |
| [14:29:40] | wagnerrp: | what does this job do that you want to run it on each backend |
| [14:30:00] | ** wagnerrp doesnt remember that, but youre welcome :) ** | |
| [14:30:17] | dmfrey: | it is gonna convert video to a new format |
| [14:30:27] | wagnerrp: | a recording? |
| [14:30:31] | dmfrey: | yes |
| [14:30:47] | wagnerrp: | so youre not running /each/ on each backend, youre just distributing it on all the backends |
| [14:31:03] | wagnerrp: | each machine has these recording dirs mounted locally? |
| [14:31:38] | dmfrey: | i am still getting it all configured, but I want to have it run on each backend |
| [14:32:38] | wagnerrp: | what language are you using? |
| [14:33:01] | dmfrey: | i have the same script in /usr/loca/bin, passing in %DIR% and %FILE% in the Job definition |
| [14:33:26] | dmfrey: | bash |
| [14:33:41] | wagnerrp: | eew.... yeah, you should stay away from the database |
| [14:33:50] | dmfrey: | :) |
| [14:34:04] | wagnerrp: | some people dont, and it gets messy |
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| [14:36:09] | dmfrey: | i am wondering if it didn't run on the appropriate recording backend |
| [14:36:35] | wagnerrp: | it should provide the absolute directory |
| [14:36:53] | wagnerrp: | it may give you that myth:// if it could not find the recording on the local filesystem |
| [14:37:13] | wagnerrp: | or if you were simply running it on a jobqueue other than the one that recorded the show |
| [14:37:21] | dmfrey: | for instance if the sg is mounted over nfs? |
| [14:37:48] | wagnerrp: | yes, if youre planning on distributing the jobqueue, mounting everything over nfs is a good idea |
| [14:42:29] | dmfrey: | i have the jobs setup to run on the recording backend, so why does it try to execute it on the master backend only? |
| [14:42:39] | dmfrey: | is that because I initiated it from mythweb? |
| [14:43:00] | wagnerrp: | probably havent properly set up allowances for that user job on the other backends |
| [14:44:12] | dmfrey: | i will check, but pretty sure they are setup the same on each |
| [14:45:01] | dmfrey: | permissions are the same on each and the files are executable |
| [14:45:14] | wagnerrp: | ProgramInfo::GetPlaybackURL... Returns filename or URL to be used to play back this recording. If the file is accessible locally, the filename will be returned, otherwise a myth:// URL will be returned |
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| [14:52:51] | dmfrey: | ok |
| [14:53:33] | dmfrey: | i think the overall reason it isn't working is because the secondary backend is not executing the job on the recording it contains |
| [14:54:02] | wagnerrp: | the jobqueue is currently disconnected |
| [14:54:21] | wagnerrp: | each jobqueue runs independently, and once a minute or so pulls the first job it can run |
| [14:54:21] | dmfrey: | the master backend is trying to do the job for recordings it doesn't contain |
| [14:54:39] | wagnerrp: | it could be the master backend is just running slightly faster than the slave |
| [14:54:47] | wagnerrp: | meaning it always picks it up |
| [14:54:54] | dmfrey: | ok |
| [14:55:02] | wagnerrp: | there is a rule somewhere to make recording jobs always run on the backend they were recorded on |
| [14:56:28] | dmfrey: | my master backend doesn't record alot, just sits in the back room and stores my music,videos,pictures and the myth db, etc |
| [14:56:48] | dmfrey: | most recorders are in the secondary backend, it is also a frontend |
| [14:57:07] | ** wagnerrp continues the endless expansion of the python bindings... ** | |
| [14:57:08] | dmfrey: | the master backend could do the all the jobs |
| [14:57:38] | dmfrey: | frees up the frontend from having to do that processing |
| [14:58:29] | dmfrey: | recordings are in the same directories on both backends |
| [15:01:16] | dmfrey: | should i mount the SB recordings back to the MB? |
| [15:01:29] | wagnerrp: | if you want the MBE to be able to run jobs on them |
| [15:01:43] | wagnerrp: | but you cant do that if youve reused the same directories |
| [15:01:49] | dmfrey: | right |
| [15:02:38] | wagnerrp: | just rename your directories to something like mbe_disk1, mbe_disk2, sbe_disk1, .... |
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| [15:03:43] | dmfrey: | the MBE has multiple drives and raid, if i remove the local dir on the SBE, and force it to only use the SG in the MBE, that should do it, correct? |
| [15:03:58] | dmfrey: | then they would all be mounted on the same host |
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| [15:04:10] | wagnerrp: | you dont want to use the recording space on the SBE? |
| [15:04:39] | dmfrey: | yeah, would like to use them all |
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| [15:05:44] | dmfrey: | i like your idea of changing the dir names and mounting them on the MBE |
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| [17:15:55] | ekristen: | wagnerrp: you around? |
| [17:17:44] | wagnerrp: | yep |
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| [17:46:24] | ekristen: | wagnerrp: sorry dude --- was call away by the family, question, 0.21 should have the xml interface does it not? |
| [17:47:15] | gbee: | should |
| [17:48:39] | gbee: | albeit the version from over 2 years ago |
| [17:50:35] | ekristen: | gbee: thanks — trying to help someone out with an app I wrote for Boxee, when he browses to the xml interface it is blank :/ |
| [17:51:55] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, i dont know off hand |
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| [18:04:45] | gbee: | xml stuff was added 4 years ago |
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| [18:05:22] | rv1s: | hey everybody i've got a big problem – dvb-s(2) channel scanning does not work with the backend setup although a channel scan using e.g. "scan" is successfull – i tried scanning using "Full Scan" (entered a correct frequency/sr) – and i tried importing a formely generated channels.conf (error message: Didn't find any new channels.) — any idea what i could do? (scanning channels using the... |
| [18:05:23] | rv1s: | ...other (dvb-t) adapter worked well in mythtv) |
| [18:05:48] | gbee: | so 0.20 |
| [18:09:00] | rv1s: | i've also got another question (for understanding): should each video source only be connected to one capture card (this is how i configured it) or should there be for example one video source for both the dvb-s2 and the dvb-t adapter? |
| [18:13:36] | gbee: | rv1s: one video source per source ... since satellite and terrestrial won't carry the exact same channels, they shouldn't share the same video source |
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| [18:14:15] | gbee: | if you happened to have two DVB-T cards connected to the same aerial, then you'd use one video source |
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| [18:17:28] | rv1s: | gbee: ok thanks – is it possible to "merge" channels (for example channel A is distributed via dvb-t and dvb-s2 but should show up as one channel)? |
| [18:19:12] | gbee: | so long as the channel numbers and callsigns align they should appear as one in the EPG or for the purposes of recording |
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| [18:20:07] | rv1s: | gbee: ok – couldn't know about this because i am still having problems regarding the s2 channel scan :-( |
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| [19:01:51] | justinh: | John Barrowman. Please GDIAF |
| [19:02:06] | iamlindoro: | What'd Cap'n Jack do? |
| [19:04:42] | justinh: | he got a show on saturday night teevee where he 'sings' |
| [19:05:42] | justinh: | it's basically a show where sad ****s write in & he grants them their wishes. Kinda like Jim did on 'Jim'll Fix It'.. only he's slightly more creepy |
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| [19:22:33] | Zathras: | hi. For some reason mythfrontend's display is a bit short on the right handside (PAL TV, but also on X). I have been playing with GUI X.Y offset etc but it did no do the trick yet. ivtv X11 driver. Any pointers please? |
| [19:23:02] | Zathras: | in Terra theme the clock does not display the last minute for instance |
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| [19:23:45] | Zathras: | yet I see a bar representing the background of the winmanager on the right |
| [19:23:54] | alice_ubuntu: | buonasera a tutti, avrei un problemino su mythtv in ubuntu! |
| [19:24:32] | alice_ubuntu: | chi mi da una mano? Sono disperata (e stanca dalle ricerche fatte d ioggi |
| [19:25:16] | Zathras: | better change of getting help if you ask in English Alice |
| [19:25:30] | Zathras: | Italian is spoken by fas less people |
| [19:25:46] | Zathras: | *far |
| [19:26:56] | alice_ubuntu: | if I use google translator? |
| [19:27:20] | alice_ubuntu: | I do not speak well the ingese |
| [19:27:40] | alice_ubuntu: | I do not speak English well |
| [19:27:45] | alice_ubuntu: | sorry |
| [19:27:54] | johnnyj: | well just try your question |
| [19:28:30] | alice_ubuntu: | one moment...... |
| [19:28:37] | alice_ubuntu: | thaks!!! |
| [19:28:42] | alice_ubuntu: | thanks!!! |
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| [19:30:36] | alice_ubuntu: | I installed mythtv on ubuntu 10.04 and until yesterday it worked great! 00:23 I fixed the constantly updated! Since yesterday I have a disturbing video image. A sort of deinterlacing is on TV and on video! |
| [19:32:46] | johnnyj: | what is your video playback device? |
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| [19:35:12] | alice_ubuntu: | asus engt240 1Gb DDR3, samsung tv 32 led FullHD, connected hdmi |
| [19:35:42] | alice_ubuntu: | thanks johnnyj |
| [19:35:59] | alice_ubuntu: | for help me :-) |
| [19:36:24] | johnnyj: | what's your playback profile set to ? what is your recorded content type? |
| [19:37:10] | alice_ubuntu: | I did not understand, sorry . |
| [19:38:22] | alice_ubuntu: | repeat please... |
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| [19:41:20] | alice_ubuntu: | :-( |
| [19:43:45] | alice_ubuntu: | what's your playback profile set to ? what is your recorded content type?: |
| [19:44:26] | alice_ubuntu: | what's your playback profile set to ? what is your recorded content type?:I have not changed any settings in any case and presented the problem! |
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| [19:49:22] | Zathras: | "I fixed the constantly updated": what did you do exactly? What is different from when everything was working ok? |
| [19:52:02] | johnnyj: | im attempting to help alice directly – using google translat0r |
| [19:52:09] | Zathras: | ok |
| [19:52:11] | Zathras: | cool |
| [19:52:23] | johnnyj: | i didn't figure the channel wanted to read all this language struggle |
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| [19:52:38] | johnnyj: | anyone here have a gt240? |
| [19:52:52] | Zathras: | hope some one can help me with my offset/sizing issue too |
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| [20:03:55] | johnnyj: | nobody here has a gt240 card? i wanted a reference playback profile to suggest |
| [20:04:06] | Zathras: | euhm, just updating Debian Squeeze, but.... |
| [20:04:09] | Zathras: | Compiling /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.4/MythTV/ttvdb/cache.py ... |
| [20:04:09] | Zathras: | SyntaxError: ('future feature with_statement is not defined',) |
| [20:05:38] | RDV_Linux: | Zathras: basically you need python 2.5 or 2.6. Most of the python grabber scripts have that requirement. |
| [20:06:07] | Zathras: | 2.5 and 2.6 are installed too iirc |
| [20:07:13] | RDV_Linux: | Zathras: Well the bindings are getting installed in python2.4 from what I see |
| [20:07:22] | Zathras: | 2.6 is default on fresh installs iirc but this is an ancient install, upgrade after upgrade. Old system comes from kernel 2.4 days |
| [20:07:39] | Zathras: | yes, so it seems |
| [20:08:39] | Zathras: | just checked 2.4 2.5 2.6 are all available |
| [20:09:56] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: ^^^ please comment on how Zathras can get the bindings installed under python2.6 |
| [20:13:38] | RDV_Linux: | Zathras: wagnerrp is almost always around and is the best one to answer your questions. You may need to come back later. |
| [20:14:00] | Zathras: | ok. |
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| [20:14:21] | Zathras: | Still have my offset/size issue of mythfrontend too |
| [20:14:33] | Zathras: | so I will be back / stay for a while |
| [20:14:39] | Zathras: | hoping I can resolve things |
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| [20:24:03] | hopper75: | I'm running mythtv 0.23 with hdhomerun (dual) connected to an antenna. The hdhomerun software sees channels ok, mythtv scans don't find any. Any advice on how to debug is greatly appreciated. |
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| [20:26:09] | johnnyj: | alice's problem was solved with sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-composite |
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| [20:33:15] | wagnerrp: | Zathras: there are special options in the configure script when installing from source |
| [20:33:34] | wagnerrp: | that let you define specifically which python executable to use to install the python bindings |
| [20:34:07] | wagnerrp: | in trunk, it will also rewrite all installed python scripts to define that executable as the one to be used at runtime |
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| [20:39:20] | Guest70453: | hey all, im using EPG data from transmitted DVB-S in the UK. Since yesterday morning i have no EPG data (as freesat transmits 7 days worth im assuming it broke sometime about a week ago =P) Ive tried clearing the 'program' table, restarting the backend multiple times and i have checked and repaired the database tables using mythweb (there was no error, but i ran repair anyway) i also ran mythfilldatabase a few |
| [20:39:20] | Guest70453: | times to no effect. There are no errors when running the frontend or mythfilldatabase. |
| [20:39:32] | Guest70453: | im out of ideas... anyone got any? =P |
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| [20:40:57] | Zathras: | wagnerrp, I used Debian package from Marillat multimedia repo. Not from source |
| [20:41:17] | Zathras: | I was a bit surprised about 2.4 too |
| [20:41:54] | Zathras: | johnnyj, cool. great you could help out |
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| [20:42:10] | johnnyj: | google translator baby |
| [20:42:18] | Zathras: | lol |
| [20:42:39] | johnnyj: | and it was the 1st thing on vdpau troubleshooting wiki page |
| [20:42:53] | Zathras: | maybe I should ask my frontend size question in swahili :P |
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| [20:51:35] | Zathras: | anyone? How come mythfrontend is cut-off prematurely on the right (display being to small). Adjusting x/y offsets moves the window byt does not resize. Changing the resolution does not help much either. Setting to 0 to autodetect makes the window way larger than the screen is |
| [20:52:06] | Zathras: | ivtv x11 tv pal display |
| [20:52:11] | kormoc: | Zathras, so change the display size? |
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| [20:52:48] | Zathras: | kormoc, does not help much for some reason |
| [20:53:18] | Zathras: | besides PAL is PAL isn't it? |
| [20:53:56] | kormoc: | well, if it's too big and changing the number of pixels we display doesn't change the output size, what can you really do? |
| [20:54:58] | kormoc: | I mean really, if we output something at 5 pixels and it's the same size as if we would output it at 10, what could you do? |
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| [20:58:29] | Zathras: | changed x pix to 680 : this fills the screen (even beyond), but the timer is still cut off |
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| [20:59:59] | Zathras: | when I am in config mode (setup of mythtv) I get a perfect filling screen |
| [21:00:17] | Zathras: | switching to regular myth theme resizes the screen again |
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| [21:02:32] | kormoc: | are you using a wide screen theme? if so, it will always be cut off |
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| [21:03:58] | Azelphur: | don't suppose anyone has made a RSS feed for mythvideo, so you can hook up with videos as they are added? |
| [21:04:09] | Zathras: | euhm. must admit I do, but changing to a normal theme (2 avail did not do the trick either), but I guess I should still start there |
| [21:04:34] | kormoc: | Azelphur, no, but it'd be simple to add to mythweb |
| [21:04:35] | jamesch: | hello. I'm looking into using MythTV. it looks great. How complicated is the install on Ubuntu (using lucid lynx)? |
| [21:04:51] | kormoc: | jstenback, mythbuntu is a ubuntu distro pre-setup with myth |
| [21:04:56] | Azelphur: | kormoc: indeed, was just checking before I took a little crack at doing it myself :) |
| [21:05:02] | wagnerrp: | if youre running someone elses packages, i cant help you |
| [21:05:22] | Azelphur: | jamesch: yea, if it's easy I'd say go with mythbuntu (I use mythbuntu myself) |
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| [21:05:26] | Azelphur: | \o/ |
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| [21:06:58] | jamesch: | kormoc: I already have ubuntu running, and the setup is pretty complex. I'd prefer to not have to re-install everything, |
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| [21:07:55] | kormoc: | jamesch, then you should likely read the docs on the ubuntu install, they'll explain it all so you can decide |
| [21:15:10] | gregl: | jamesch: Go to synaptic search for mythubuntu-control-centre and follow the directions.. |
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| [21:17:30] | Zathras: | nearly there.... |
| [21:17:49] | gregl: | jamesch: Go to synaptic search for mythubuntu-control-centre and follow the directions.. |
| [21:18:14] | jamesch: | gregl: are the directions in synaptic? |
| [21:18:45] | gregl: | jamesch: no there is in the control centre though |
| [21:19:07] | jamesch: | gregl: so I'll see them once I'm done installing? |
| [21:20:13] | gregl: | jamesch: once you get the control centre installed ,just follor the directions in the control centre.. |
| [21:20:21] | gregl: | err follow |
| [21:20:33] | jamesch: | gregl: thanks! |
| [21:21:28] | gregl: | The learning curve is huge,so be prepared .. |
| [21:22:07] | jamesch: | gregl: thanks, hopefully it won't be too bad :) |
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| [21:42:52] | gsteinert: | hey, ive tried sending an email to the user list a couple of times now, and both times its come back as awaiting moderator approval.i am subscribed to the list. |
| [21:43:16] | gsteinert: | any ideas why i need aproval to post? |
| [21:48:46] | justinh: | generally you ask to subscribe & then you get an email you have to confirm receipt of |
| [21:48:50] | justinh: | and thats it |
| [21:49:22] | justinh: | but tbh missing out on the -users list isn't the end of the world. I mean, I've seen it :) |
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| [21:52:28] | gbee: | gsteinert: Isaac may have started moderating new posters because of spam or trolling |
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| [21:58:10] | gsteinert: | justinh: i was posting to ask for support, seems the right list to do it on =) |
| [21:58:27] | gsteinert: | gbee: thanks, ill hang n till its approved then =) |
| [21:58:50] | Zathras: | how can I resize mythbrowser please? (page view is kingsize showing only part of page, a bit like some mobile browsers act) |
| [22:00:02] | justinh: | gsteinert: I tried that once :) |
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| [22:02:02] | gsteinert: | justinh: well im out of ther ideas =( my EPG keeps causing me trouble, but it seems to be a different problem every time |
| [22:02:19] | gsteinert: | same symptoms though, no data =( |
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| [22:21:04] | Zathras: | fix it. goodnight |
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