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[00:00:22] | Hal-Emmerich: | Right, but when I corrected it, I was setting the owner via chown to mythtv |
[00:00:30] | Hal-Emmerich: | when it should have been my user all along |
[00:00:42] | Hal-Emmerich: | Also, the extension HAS to be specified or it can not find files |
[00:00:49] | Hal-Emmerich: | despite what it says |
[00:00:58] | Hal-Emmerich: | I can die happy now |
[00:00:59] | Hal-Emmerich: | lol |
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[00:41:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | wohoo! ;-) mceusb blaster is working with my quirky iptv box... ;-) Now to program the rest of the buttons in raw mode... |
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[00:43:13] | wagnerrp: | you have an iptv box? i thought you had fios |
[00:45:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: I have both... iptv box is 'sky angel'... |
[00:46:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: the dumb remote protocol has a 40ms header pulse... which is huge... and my hardware serial blaster wasn't working with it. I had hoped that the newer OS (FC13) would have resolved the issue, but it must be an lirc bug... |
[00:46:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: But the MCEUSB blaster port works correctly, so I'll use it instead... ;-) |
[00:46:52] | ** J-e-f-f-A heads off to figure out how to use 'irrecord' with the 'mceusb' receiver, as it's not liking me right now... :-( ** | |
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[00:50:47] | dmfrey: | hey everyone, i have 2 backends that record. i want to run a job that will make the recordings into a 3gp file for streaming, can i do that across backends or will i need to run a job on the backend where the recording exists? |
[00:51:36] | wagnerrp: | that depends on whether the program you intend to use to transcode understands mythproto |
[00:51:56] | wagnerrp: | (which is almost certainly no) |
[00:51:58] | dmfrey: | i am using ffmpeg |
[00:52:02] | dmfrey: | right |
[00:52:11] | wagnerrp: | with ffmpeg, you need direct file access |
[00:52:25] | wagnerrp: | so that means either running it on the backend that recorded the show |
[00:52:30] | wagnerrp: | or sharing the files over NFS |
[00:52:36] | dmfrey: | is there anything available that understands the mythproto? |
[00:53:02] | wagnerrp: | doubtful |
[00:53:32] | wagnerrp: | you *could* pipe the data through the python bindings (or the perl bindings if they support file transfers, i dont know off hand) |
[00:53:40] | wagnerrp: | or you could pipe the file over mythxml |
[00:53:50] | wagnerrp: | or you could prefetch the file and run it locally |
[00:54:16] | dmfrey: | i am not familiar with them |
[00:54:28] | dmfrey: | i will do some digging |
[00:55:53] | dmfrey: | i do have nfs mounts between the boxes |
[00:56:13] | wagnerrp: | if you have the recording folders mounted over nfs, then there is no reason to investigate any of those things |
[00:56:16] | dmfrey: | i guess I could move all my storage groups onto one box |
[00:57:12] | wagnerrp: | best option is just to set the option in the jobqueue to only run the job on the recording host |
[00:57:54] | dmfrey: | ok |
[00:58:46] | dmfrey: | so do I set the script up on each backend, in the same location and it just executes it locally? |
[00:58:53] | wagnerrp: | correct |
[00:59:15] | wagnerrp: | and you can set per recording rule to have it run automatically upon completion of the recording |
[00:59:54] | dmfrey: | and what I can do have each backend dump the resulting file to a common nfs share so they all end up in one directory on the server i want to stream them from |
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[01:05:46] | dmfrey: | wagnerrp: thanks for your help |
[01:06:16] | wagnerrp: | something else you may want to check out |
[01:06:27] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Transcode_wrapper_stub |
[01:06:50] | dmfrey: | thanks, i will take a look |
[01:07:21] | wagnerrp: | youll need to change the two areas marked to match what you want to use |
[01:07:45] | wagnerrp: | if you give me the command line you want to run, i could show you what to put in there |
[01:08:23] | wagnerrp: | actually, youll want to strip about half of that off |
[01:08:38] | wagnerrp: | since it assumes you want the newly transcoded file to be used by mythtv |
[01:08:42] | dmfrey: | one sec, will get it |
[01:09:34] | dmfrey: | ffmpeg -y -i "$1" -r 20 -s 352x288 -b 400k -ac 1 -ar 8000 -ab 24k "$out/$outfile.3gp" |
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[01:09:51] | dmfrey: | this is from http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Stream_mythtv_reco . . . bile_devices |
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[01:14:59] | wagnerrp: | this would probably do it |
[01:15:10] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.pastebin.com/DwjC8ieq |
[01:15:54] | wagnerrp: | then you would add it as a user job as 'transcode_wrapper.py %JOBID%' |
[01:16:17] | wagnerrp: | or you could run it manually as 'transcode_wrapper.py --chanid=<chanid> --starttime=<starttime>' |
[01:18:09] | skd5aner: | Finally – I figured out the SQL Update statement needed to get the icon column copied over after the I had to delete and re-add all my channels! |
[01:18:17] | skd5aner: | sphery: you there? |
[01:19:03] | jya: | ThisOtherGuy: the ALSA error is perfectly normal. Myth scans all audio devices reported by ALSA. In the list reported by ALSA there are plenty of unusable devices usually. Myth try to open and configure it , if it fails, the device is ignored and not added to the list... |
[01:19:38] | sphery: | skd5aner: yeah |
[01:20:21] | skd5aner: | wanted to share with you... I know I had brought up the topic of trying to copy over the icons from the old copy of the DB and dump them in the new database where "name" matched |
[01:21:01] | skd5aner: | sphery: fairly basic at heart – http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1891491 |
[01:22:00] | sphery: | yeah, but we need a lot more code to handle other non-US users or channels that change their in-signal info or ... I have a plan for it, but I just have to get time to work on it |
[01:22:10] | dmfrey: | wagnerrp: thanks, i am looking at it now |
[01:22:22] | skd5aner: | actually, just updated it, left out something |
[01:23:29] | sphery: | we need to compare channel numbers, channel callsign, channel name, freqid, atsc_major_chan, atsc_minor_chan, and possibly some dvb-centric ones, too |
[01:23:49] | sphery: | so basically, to do it right--and such that it works most of the time for most people--is a lot more challenging |
[01:24:00] | skd5aner: | sphery: yup, I understand... I was just relieved to finally get my icons back! |
[01:24:01] | skd5aner: | :) |
[01:24:21] | sphery: | so the channel icon downloader test wasn't too successful for you? |
[01:25:21] | skd5aner: | sphery: no, I gave that spin... |
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[01:26:00] | sphery: | :( |
[01:26:17] | sphery: | now that Beirdo showed me where to find it in the UI, I'll have to play with it |
[01:26:19] | skd5aner: | few "issues" – 1) I downloads the .jpgs and not the HQ pngs (which I know xris and team know about), also, it missed maybe about 20% of the icons for some reason... the first one it wanted me to look for was BBC America HD, and it took FOREVER for the results to finish it's search |
[01:26:24] | NetersLandreau: | i bought a new tv last night and am trying to hook up my computer via hdmi.. when i try to connect my tv as a monitor, it is not detected.. vga works fine at the office.. what do i need to do? ubuntu 10.04; sharp aquous |
[01:26:45] | skd5aner: | s/1) I/1) It |
[01:27:38] | skd5aner: | once I realized it downloaded all jpgs, I quit – since I already had all the pngs ready to go, I just had to get the new channels table up to date. I wonder what I would have done if this were embedded MYSQL?! :-0 |
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[01:29:21] | dmfrey: | wagnerrp: this might be it exactly |
[01:29:44] | skd5aner: | cool, well – anyway back out I go |
[01:30:58] | ThisOtherGuy: | hey all – does anyone know if mythtvosd is supposed to work with the new osd in trunk? |
[01:31:03] | sphery: | skd5aner: if it were embedded MySQL, you would have written the code to fix the channel icon downloader :) |
[01:31:24] | sphery: | i.e. the problem isn't needing access to the underlying data--it's that the icon downloader gave you garbage data |
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[01:31:51] | wagnerrp: | sphery: looks like that 'The Good Guys' is going to get cancelled prematurely |
[01:32:23] | sphery: | really? |
[01:32:30] | sphery: | iamlindoro said it was pretty good |
[01:32:32] | wagnerrp: | yeah, im enjoying it |
[01:32:39] | wagnerrp: | which is why its going to get cancelled |
[01:32:41] | sphery: | stupid fox |
[01:32:46] | wagnerrp: | :) |
[01:32:49] | sphery: | yeah, that's their MO |
[01:33:03] | jya: | ThisOtherGuy, I'm in interested with your crash however.. When did that occur? during playback or during the use of the configuration screen... |
[01:33:21] | ThisOtherGuy: | jya: during playback |
[01:33:34] | jya: | do you have a log or something? |
[01:34:03] | ThisOtherGuy: | jya: I'll check |
[01:34:40] | jya: | thanks |
[01:42:56] | ThisOtherGuy: | jya: I'm not sure exactly where in the logs it was so I pasted a bit: http://pastebin.com/DgVaKSMi |
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[02:13:46] | wagnerrp: | yep... definitely gonna get canceled |
[02:17:02] | wagnerrp: | sphery: sure enough, its rating are pretty poor |
[02:18:03] | wagnerrp: | last week, it had half the viewers of a rerun of two and a half men |
[02:18:51] | wagnerrp: | of course last week, a pair of reality tv shows topped the ratings all through primetime |
[02:19:06] | wagnerrp: | so that says something about the people nielson is tracking |
[02:19:41] | wagnerrp: | WHY are so many people watching the whor^H^H^H^Hbachelorette |
[02:21:48] | wagnerrp: | at least something like 'flavor of love' was a ridiculous spectacle |
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[02:22:34] | wagnerrp: | i cant fathom why anyone would want to watch the bachelorette, its as worthless a show as the bachelor before it |
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[02:33:48] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Yeah, I'd take The Good Guys over The Bachelorette, any day--and I haven't even started watching The Good Guys |
[02:34:08] | wagnerrp: | well lucky for you, it seems flashpoint is going strong |
[02:34:36] | wagnerrp: | not that it really matters since were getting it half a year behind the canucks |
[02:37:44] | sphery: | yeah, I'm glad about that--they're actually even advertising it, too (which seems to help people realize it's on :) |
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[02:39:18] | wagnerrp: | in other worthless news, diet water! http://www.diet-blog.com/07/diet_water.php |
[02:40:09] | wagnerrp: | apparently people who read that site cant grasp sarcasm, judging by the comments |
[02:40:33] | sphery: | heh |
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[02:50:07] | Bhaal: | Bah... |
[02:50:11] | Bhaal: | Stupid X |
[02:50:31] | Bhaal: | CBF trying to figure out what was causing the panels to not come up... |
[02:50:35] | Bhaal: | rebooted... |
[02:50:45] | Bhaal: | 73 days of uptime isnt bad for a workstation though |
[02:51:02] | wagnerrp: | panels? |
[02:51:09] | Bhaal: | yes, gnome |
[02:51:34] | Bhaal: | As in all the stuff I click on to get programs loading etc... |
[02:51:42] | Bhaal: | "start bar" for the windows weenies out there |
[02:51:59] | wagnerrp: | oh, those things |
[02:52:11] | Bhaal: | And evolution still isnt starting... |
[02:52:32] | Bhaal: | Ahhhh there we go... |
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[02:56:39] | Bhaal: | flashpoint? |
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[02:57:43] | wagnerrp: | canadian swat-type show |
[02:57:52] | jya: | ThisOtherGuy: In your log, what am I supposed to look at, was there a crash or an error occurring ? or something you didn't expect? |
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[02:58:00] | Bhaal: | Oh, not heard of it... Any good? |
[02:58:31] | wagnerrp: | never seen it, decided not to start several seasons in |
[02:58:39] | Bhaal: | ahhh okeys |
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[03:12:30] | Beirdo: | BLARF |
[03:12:45] | Beirdo: | now for the fun of tweaking the playback profiles... |
[03:13:03] | Beirdo: | I've tried, but it isn't liking me too much |
[03:13:37] | Beirdo: | It's getting a lot of "AFD Error: Unknown decoding error" |
[03:13:49] | Beirdo: | and "B picture before any references, skipping" |
[03:14:08] | Beirdo: | in the backend logs when commflagging, and in the frontend during playback |
[03:15:51] | Beirdo: | hmmm, it seems to want to always play on 1080i |
[03:15:59] | Beirdo: | that could be an issue? |
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[03:21:32] | wagnerrp: | odds on breaking 26k before 0.24? |
[03:22:34] | Beirdo: | pretty good |
[03:22:41] | Beirdo: | what's the current damage? |
[03:22:48] | wagnerrp: | 25200 |
[03:23:35] | Beirdo: | 800 to go? It might be tough, but we can do it :) |
[03:24:48] | wagnerrp: | dont we have a freeze in a month? |
[03:25:00] | Beirdo: | not sure at this point :) |
[03:25:13] | Beirdo: | what video sync should I attempt here? |
[03:25:26] | wagnerrp: | release due oct 1... maybe 2 months |
[03:25:35] | Beirdo: | not gonna spend too much more time futzing with the playback right now |
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[03:29:41] | Beirdo: | opening NULL audio device?! |
[03:29:47] | Beirdo: | now WTH? |
[03:31:17] | Beirdo: | how about we install alsa, shall we? |
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[03:58:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, I think someone mentioned freeze on Aug 1, but not sure if it's been officially set yet. if freeze is Aug 1, release would be ~Sep 1. |
[04:01:18] | Beirdo: | OMG, why won't sound work? |
[04:01:31] | Beirdo: | time for a reboot, I think I messed something up :) |
[04:12:29] | dmz: | howdy y'all, quick question..i have an old tuner that is no longer part of my myth setup but it is still listed as an inactive tuner; how can i remove it the box is no longer there so i can't use mythtv-setup |
[04:13:09] | wagnerrp: | either ignore it, or use 'delete all entries' or whatever its called |
[04:13:20] | wagnerrp: | with the latter, youll have to add back your cards |
[04:13:32] | wagnerrp: | note that all your channels will be stored with your sources that will be unaffected |
[04:13:41] | wagnerrp: | shouldnt take you more than a couple minutes to add your cards back |
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[04:16:51] | Beirdo: | arggh |
[04:17:11] | Beirdo: | can someone PLEASE tell me what "Audio output device" should be? |
[04:17:25] | Beirdo: | ALSA is now working elsewhere |
[04:18:02] | wagnerrp: | ALSA:default? |
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[04:19:03] | Captain_Murdoch: | nice... I'm hacking up a version of iamlindoro's libmythui theme chooser and have it downloading a list of 'downloadable' themes from a website, downloading the themeinfo.xml file for each listed theme, downloading the preview image for each theme,and then if you choose one, it downloads a zip file and uses some Qt code I found to extract the new theme into ~/.mythtv/themes/ so it's available for use. |
[04:19:26] | Beirdo: | nope, not workin |
[04:20:28] | Beirdo: | can not find card 0 |
[04:20:36] | Beirdo: | but mplayer liked it jsut fine |
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[04:22:47] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
[04:22:48] | Beirdo: | perms. |
[04:22:55] | Beirdo: | forgot to add me to audio group |
[04:23:17] | ** wagnerrp slaps Beirdo around a bit ** | |
[04:23:29] | Beirdo: | that's just shameful |
[04:23:51] | Beirdo: | it let me... ON the console only |
[04:25:17] | Beirdo: | YAY |
[04:25:27] | Beirdo: | muuuuuuch better |
[04:25:40] | Beirdo: | I feel sheepish |
[04:28:17] | Beirdo: | I even remember thinking about that earlier |
[04:28:18] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[04:29:29] | Beirdo: | playback is looking OK now |
[04:29:34] | Beirdo: | for now :) |
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[04:32:40] | Beirdo: | OK, playback of 720p looks fine. |
[04:32:46] | Beirdo: | let's capture a 1080i |
[04:36:02] | Hal-Emmerich: | Alrighty |
[04:36:04] | Hal-Emmerich: | on the last step |
[04:38:02] | Beirdo: | way to go, udev |
[04:38:15] | Beirdo: | it put the hdpvr as /dev/video0 this time |
[04:38:22] | Beirdo: | I HATE you |
[04:40:11] | Beirdo: | there we go |
[04:40:24] | Beirdo: | now no changing again! |
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[05:06:44] | wagnerrp: | heh... apparently ohloh thinks some of my code is in the language 'IDL/PV-WAVE/GDL' |
[05:08:57] | dmz: | heh i just found an irc log from 2009–11 where i resolved an issue i'm having now..(ie google found 'my' chat in response to my searching to solve a problem i solved before) |
[05:09:04] | dmz: | damn short term memory |
[05:12:25] | Beirdo: | udev to the rescue |
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[05:16:09] | Beirdo: | OK... 1080i looks fine |
[05:16:23] | wagnerrp: | i cant find the commit that ohloh thinks is IDL |
[05:17:00] | Beirdo: | after I made the stupid cards symlink to /dev/video-hdpvr0, video-ivtv0, video-ivtv1 |
[05:17:03] | Beirdo: | :) |
[05:17:19] | Beirdo: | thou shalt NOT reorder my capture devices! |
[05:17:40] | wagnerrp: | although apparently no one uses IDL |
[05:17:52] | Beirdo: | heh |
[05:17:59] | Beirdo: | yeah, it gets confused at times |
[05:18:04] | wagnerrp: | as with our 300 mis-recognized lines, we have four developers in the top 25 users |
[05:18:32] | Beirdo: | wow |
[05:18:35] | Beirdo: | nice |
[05:18:41] | Beirdo: | I'll have to catch up |
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[05:19:27] | Beirdo: | I think the IR transmitting can wait a little longer :) |
[05:19:40] | Beirdo: | let's work on a weather map script |
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[05:21:31] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
[05:21:49] | Beirdo: | 39% idle... with 1080i H.264 playback... |
[05:21:53] | Beirdo: | and a commflag |
[05:22:01] | wagnerrp: | what processor/bitrate? |
[05:22:05] | Beirdo: | I think this will do just fine :) |
[05:22:13] | Beirdo: | Pentium D 2.8GHz |
[05:22:22] | Beirdo: | dual core... |
[05:22:37] | Beirdo: | and... default bitrate |
[05:22:42] | Beirdo: | so not sure ;) |
[05:22:44] | wagnerrp: | must be running the commflagger at the lowest priority, where it puts sleeps in |
[05:22:50] | Beirdo: | I didn't teeak it |
[05:23:00] | Beirdo: | 106% CPU on the mythcommflag |
[05:23:09] | Beirdo: | 7% for the frontend |
[05:23:12] | Beirdo: | heh |
[05:24:24] | wagnerrp: | my shoulder hurts |
[05:24:39] | Beirdo: | my arms, legs and brain hurt ;) |
[05:25:00] | wagnerrp: | its like ive got a nerve pinched in the joint |
[05:25:06] | Beirdo: | oooh, sucky |
[05:25:23] | Beirdo: | mine's just from general aching from overuse moving stuff on the weekend |
[05:25:39] | Beirdo: | and the brain... well... too much thinking |
[05:25:40] | Beirdo: | heh |
[05:25:51] | wagnerrp: | i havent done crap all day, theres no reason for it to just suddenly start hurting in the past hour |
[05:26:23] | Beirdo: | that's suboptimal |
[05:27:16] | Beirdo: | so even with all the whining the backend is doing about my H.264 video having decoding erros, the video card/vdpau is happy with it |
[05:30:24] | wagnerrp: | !seen gnome42 |
[05:30:24] | MythLogBot: | gnome42 was last seen 52 days 12 hours 51 minutes 58 seconds ago |
[05:30:46] | Beirdo: | !seen kde42 |
[05:30:46] | MythLogBot: | kde42 has not been seen here |
[05:30:48] | Beirdo: | heh |
[05:30:55] | Beirdo: | sorry, couldn't resist |
[05:34:28] | Beirdo: | ell 4$ shell gjhurlbu@firewall 192... U Ubuntu 10.04 22! 2d14h 0.16 |
[05:34:42] | wagnerrp: | eew |
[05:34:50] | Beirdo: | que? |
[05:35:04] | wagnerrp: | weird random text |
[05:35:06] | Beirdo: | I think I bumped the right mouse button |
[05:35:22] | Beirdo: | that's part of the byobu status line |
[05:35:32] | Beirdo: | on my ssh connection |
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[05:35:57] | Beirdo: | byobu = screen + extras (used to be screen-profiles) |
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[05:36:49] | wagnerrp: | im taking my hurting shoulder and going to bed |
[05:37:59] | Beirdo: | night |
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[07:45:21] | Beirdo: | oh crap |
[07:45:50] | Beirdo: | stupid mythweather expects a series of images for "animated maps" |
[07:46:01] | Beirdo: | wunderground gives an animated GIF |
[07:46:08] | Beirdo: | fugh |
[07:47:40] | Beirdo: | so for the exact second... you will be getting static maps only |
[07:47:41] | Beirdo: | heh |
[07:48:00] | Beirdo: | while I figure out the best way to tackle that |
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[07:53:54] | Beirdo: | anyone who follows checkins... there are new static weather maps available (US only) |
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[07:58:18] | justinh: | you dare give mythtv's ui animated GIF support! ;-) |
[07:58:38] | justinh: | actually nah to heck with that – it'll be a good laugh to see people theming with animated GIFs |
[07:58:43] | Beirdo: | heh |
[07:58:56] | Beirdo: | well, I don't know what to do about them |
[07:59:16] | justinh: | you could split em with imagemagick ;) |
[07:59:22] | Beirdo: | I think I can get tricky and just pull down timestamped ones that make the animation |
[07:59:41] | Beirdo: | I really really really don't want to add imagemagick as a requirement :) |
[07:59:54] | justinh: | lol |
[08:00:07] | Beirdo: | until such a point as it becomes absolutely necessary |
[08:00:17] | justinh: | wasn't the old weather.com one animated GIF which was processed by myth? |
[08:00:18] | Beirdo: | for image layering or something |
[08:00:22] | Beirdo: | nope |
[08:00:35] | Beirdo: | they sucked down individual frames |
[08:00:45] | Beirdo: | myth did the animation as best I can tell |
[08:01:16] | justinh: | nah I know myth did the animation but I thought it might've split an animated gif already |
[08:01:36] | Beirdo: | it looks like they repeatedly download images |
[08:01:43] | Beirdo: | which I may just do... |
[08:01:44] | justinh: | ow |
[08:02:02] | Beirdo: | like they grab the 6 previous frames or something |
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[08:02:31] | justinh: | at least myth has an animated image class this time around |
[08:02:50] | Beirdo: | heh |
[08:07:10] | Beirdo: | that should keep the whining at bay at least |
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[08:11:29] | justinh: | duct tape |
[08:11:59] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[08:33:06] | justinh: | camcorder came. it's tiny |
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[10:31:37] | KaZeR: | i'm fighting with mythweb on a fresh install. it tries to load a template named 'tmpl', which doesn't exists : modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php |
[10:31:43] | KaZeR: | anybody ever faced that issue? |
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[11:07:13] | oobe: | mythweb/modules/_shared/tmpl/iPod/header.php exists on my system which make's me assume it is looking for ../ directory so the links are broken or the mythweb default them is broken |
[11:07:29] | oobe: | but modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php does not exist |
[11:07:38] | oobe: | can you load this page http://localhost/mythweb/settings/mythweb |
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[12:12:15] | zoran119: | hi everyone |
[12:12:26] | zoran119: | mythweb install problems here |
[12:12:56] | zoran119: | it seems that my <Directory "/var/www/htdocs/mythweb"> does not match |
[12:13:11] | zoran119: | which causes the setenv statements to fail |
[12:13:17] | zoran119: | causing the whole thing to colapse |
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[12:13:54] | zoran119: | i have pulled out the setenv statements outside of <Directory> tag (debuging purposes) |
[12:13:57] | zoran119: | and it worked |
[12:14:29] | zoran119: | so the only thing i can conclude is that the path inside <Directory> does not match... |
[12:14:35] | zoran119: | any idea what i'm doing wrong? |
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[12:49:23] | jamiem: | hello :) |
[12:49:56] | jamiem: | does anyone happen to use scrape for UK listings? I need May/June after I did something very stupid :/ |
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[13:26:12] | rileyp: | anyone using nvidia 256 drivers with myth and are their any benifits |
[13:26:51] | rileyp: | some 3d tv is being broadcast in au lately on a 3d test channel |
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[13:31:26] | ahughes: | hey guys... are there any recommended laptops for myth (austrailan DTV) |
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[13:36:08] | rileyp: | you want one with a nvidia ion video driver |
[13:36:32] | rileyp: | or nvidia >9200 or bettre |
[13:36:36] | rileyp: | i think |
[13:37:13] | rileyp: | not sure3 if nvidia ion laptops are out there |
[13:38:00] | rileyp: | for example a asrock ion (not a laptop but can do 1080p |
[13:38:02] | ahughes: | it's the tuner card I am more worried about. |
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[13:38:57] | Hal-Emmerich: | well. I -thought- I had everything working |
[13:38:57] | Hal-Emmerich: | lol |
[13:38:58] | rileyp: | best usb tuner is the asus my cinema 3100 for au |
[13:39:00] | ahughes: | There's a few hdmi+nvidia to work with... but tuner cards makes things a problem.. unless I go USB. |
[13:39:10] | Hal-Emmerich: | Now my Remote Wonder II isn't controlling video |
[13:40:12] | rileyp: | ahughes, everyone uses asus a 3100 for mythtv in skippyland |
[13:40:22] | ahughes: | rileyp, that's seriously cheap! |
[13:40:29] | rileyp: | they are more sensistive than the cheaper ones |
[13:40:45] | rileyp: | no I use leadtek gold tuners |
[13:40:50] | ahughes: | I was looking at hauppage, which are x3 to x4 the price |
[13:40:55] | rileyp: | $33 dollars each I have 3 |
[13:40:57] | wagnerrp: | rileyp: you want one with some-recent nvidia graphics |
[13:41:21] | wagnerrp: | you do /not/ want one with an ION, as that implies that you also get an Intel Atom with it |
[13:41:54] | wagnerrp: | ahughes: ^^^^, an ION only refers to the combination of an Atom with a 9400M |
[13:42:12] | rileyp: | Im good wagnerrp I have asrock ion and I was suggesting a laptop with ion or nvidia >9200 graphics |
[13:42:26] | rileyp: | which would be 9400? |
[13:42:37] | ahughes: | wagnerrp, I won't go anywhere near atom! |
[13:42:37] | wagnerrp: | erm... got you and ahughes mixed up |
[13:42:53] | rileyp: | I know hes talking about tuner cards.... |
[13:43:03] | rileyp: | but he asked about laptops |
[13:43:04] | ahughes: | rileyp, so you are au? |
[13:43:06] | wagnerrp: | no, he asked for a laptop, and you recommended an ION |
[13:43:12] | rileyp: | geelong |
[13:43:12] | wagnerrp: | im saying he /doesnt/ want an ION |
[13:43:20] | ahughes: | kewl, rileyp ... adelaide here. |
[13:43:33] | rileyp: | yes I know you think not powerfull enough |
[13:43:41] | ahughes: | no balls! |
[13:43:44] | rileyp: | to run FE and BE |
[13:44:06] | wagnerrp: | no, not powerful enough for something i would want to use as a personal laptop |
[13:44:06] | ahughes: | I wanna encode e.t.c. |
[13:44:19] | rileyp: | but I have a single core atom BE with 4 tuners! and I made 8 recordings tonight at once! |
[13:44:31] | rileyp: | and they played fine! |
[13:44:37] | ahughes: | anyway... so the 3100 is dual tuner or single? |
[13:44:43] | rileyp: | on my asrock FE |
[13:44:54] | wagnerrp: | rileyp: sure, but waiting on those scheduler runs sucks hard |
[13:45:05] | rileyp: | its a single tuner |
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[13:45:37] | ahughes: | I can live with that... does it change channel fast rileyp ? |
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[13:45:48] | rileyp: | wagnerp i let it run 24/7 it transcodes in the we hours of the mrning whilst nothing is being recrdded |
[13:46:06] | rileyp: | no tuners change fast in myth |
[13:46:24] | ahughes: | bugger. thats what I like most about playtv |
[13:46:32] | rileyp: | thats the way it is. |
[13:46:52] | rileyp: | the idea is to record every show you want then watchthem at your leisure |
[13:46:58] | ahughes: | msy have em for $59. |
[13:47:16] | ahughes: | rileyp, that's a good concept. |
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[13:47:37] | rileyp: | yes another popular tuner is the dntv tinytwin which is a dual tuner but! |
[13:48:06] | ahughes: | honestly, I just want something that will work out of the box with myth... I aint got time for stuffin round |
[13:48:06] | rileyp: | I think some peeps had probs with a tuner going missing or something |
[13:48:39] | rileyp: | ahughes thats it asus a3100! |
[13:49:23] | ahughes: | best damn advice I have had yet, thanks rileyp |
[13:49:56] | ahughes: | I guess the wake function has nothing todo with usb either? that's a myth+bios thing right? |
[13:50:25] | rileyp: | the leadtek gold tuners i use are $33 each but I have seperate antenna for myth on my shed |
[13:52:02] | rileyp: | these tuners will not dissapear on you afetre a wake and wakes are good with linux as its from bios! |
[13:53:01] | rileyp: | the only thing wake has to to do with usb is setting up your remote to wake up your frontend |
[13:55:10] | rileyp: | ahughes, http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/MythTV_Hardware |
[13:55:37] | ahughes: | "these tuners" which ones, all? |
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[13:55:48] | rileyp: | shows about the asus tuner |
[13:56:16] | rileyp: | these are the asus ones sorry |
[13:58:12] | ahughes: | thanks heaps! |
[13:59:53] | rileyp: | np |
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[14:07:31] | rileyp: | i just installed nvidia 256 glx and now I have no tv playback after a reboot |
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[14:38:27] | PeaceKeeper: | Can I check (via firewire) that my Cable Box is on? |
[14:38:57] | PeaceKeeper: | Stupid thing turns off about one a week and I miss recordings on my HD-PVR :( |
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[15:25:24] | keith4: | PeaceKeeper: plugreport should be able to tell you, no? or maybe the firewire primer script? |
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[15:52:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | Jarod's hiding... ;-) |
[15:58:24] | PeaceKeeper: | keith4: Humm I am not sure. I will look into that |
[15:58:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | PeaceKeeper: I dunno, but I had an instance last week where my two QIP7100 boxes were completely non-responsive – I had to un-plug the power to reset them... Maybe I could have known sooner with a monitoring script running 'plugreport'??? i dunno... ;-) |
[15:59:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | PeaceKeeper: They were both on, and 'locked' on a channel, but would not respond to the remote or the front panel buttons at all.... |
[16:01:10] | Hal-Emmerich: | Got it. After all that work |
[16:01:12] | Hal-Emmerich: | the thing finally works |
[16:01:12] | Hal-Emmerich: | lol |
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[16:04:08] | PeaceKeeper: | I found a little program called mythprime but I am not sure how to use it yet. |
[16:05:29] | PeaceKeeper: | It is by majoridiot (his nic not my observation) |
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[16:21:47] | PeaceKeeper: | I found sa3250cmd on google code that seems to work. i will confirm later (works on more that just a sa3250 too) |
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[17:11:56] | Beirdo: | yay for creating a new bug... for myself. |
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[17:14:51] | keith4: | PeaceKeeper: there's a firewire section in the wiki. just google "mythtv firewire primer" |
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[17:19:28] | PeaceKeeper: | keith4: Ok, thank you :D |
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[17:23:34] | gizmobay: | How can you tell if a patch has made it into mythtv? |
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[17:28:51] | Beirdo: | gizmobay: use the source, Luke! |
[17:29:15] | wagnerrp: | turn off the computer, feel the code |
[17:30:45] | Beirdo: | OK, that just sounds perverted |
[17:30:52] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[17:31:13] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yay! #8623 |
[17:31:19] | Beirdo: | I bugged myself. |
[17:31:50] | jams: | gbee..drove past a place named biggbee pizza. Are you creating a fallback plan for your retirement? |
[17:32:09] | Beirdo: | mmmm, pizza |
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[17:37:23] | jams: | hmm he must be busy working in the back of the shop |
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[17:45:42] | gizmobay: | I'm looking at the source but I'm not seeing the patch in either trunk or fixes. |
[17:45:57] | gizmobay: | I guess not all patches make it into mythtv? |
[17:46:09] | wagnerrp: | did the patch get a ticket? |
[17:46:25] | gizmobay: | yes, #8267 |
[17:46:33] | wagnerrp: | is the ticket closed as fixed? |
[17:46:57] | Beirdo: | yes |
[17:46:57] | gizmobay: | yes, 32 hours ago. |
[17:47:07] | wagnerrp: | the the patch is likely in mythtv |
[17:47:14] | Beirdo: | 35 hours ago by jya... "Fixed since merge of hd-audio branch" |
[17:47:29] | Beirdo: | so maybe the issue is gone due to other code changes? |
[17:47:43] | gizmobay: | ahh, I see |
[17:47:45] | wagnerrp: | or the code it was supposed to fix has changed sufficiently to render the ticket irrelevant to mythtv |
[17:47:58] | Beirdo: | yeah, that's what I was thinking |
[17:48:17] | Beirdo: | although, if it's still a problem on 0.23-fixes, maybe that was premature to close? |
[17:48:20] | Beirdo: | I dunno |
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[17:49:45] | gizmobay: | I noticed the issue a long time ago. Thought it was just my setup and not a bug. |
[17:50:13] | gizmobay: | Converting the vids to a different sample rate fixed my issue so I don't have any other vids to test |
[17:53:08] | wagnerrp: | well resampling things is never ideal |
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[17:54:07] | gizmobay: | yeah it was the only way to fix it. I think it was 42000 that didn't work so I resampled to 48K |
[17:56:49] | wagnerrp: | interesting, the FCC is going forward with its home network IPTV stuff |
[17:57:37] | wagnerrp: | time to start the email flood to lobby for a conditional access system rather than DRM? |
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[18:10:07] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: good luck with that. |
[18:12:08] | wagnerrp: | i honestly dont understand the argument for DRM |
[18:13:03] | wagnerrp: | i dont understand how it could ever be construed as good for the public |
[18:14:07] | Beirdo: | you think they care about the public? |
[18:14:13] | Beirdo: | they care about the pork barrel. |
[18:14:21] | wagnerrp: | no, but i think the law makers are supposed to |
[18:14:43] | Beirdo: | they care about the payoffs that they deem to not be bribes. |
[18:16:27] | wagnerrp: | from the actions of the fcc, they dont seem to be getting any of those funds |
[18:18:23] | wagnerrp: | i /really/ dont understand how cablelabs has been able to skate past the FTC and antitrust proceedings |
[18:18:27] | wagnerrp: | same with macrovision |
[18:20:59] | wagnerrp: | i mean the moment any of that stuff became federally mandated, it should have been seized under eminent domain |
[18:21:12] | wagnerrp: | as it stands, those companies have a federally mandated monopoly |
[18:21:20] | wagnerrp: | how does that work? |
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[18:35:51] | caelor: | I've been trying to diagnose an issue I've been having with 0.23-fixes (ubuntu lucid, avenard repos). I have a master backend with a dual tuner DVB-T card, and mysql server, and a slave backend (wake on demand) with a DVB-S tuner. It idles, and even records some things without any issues, but about 2 or 3 times a day, the mysql server reports connection aborted (error reading communication packets). The backend (with -v database) repor |
[18:35:52] | caelor: | lost connection to mysql server during query (preparing an insert into recordedseek), and then keeps reporting Mysql Server Went Away. At that point, ny mythweb request that involves the tuners (e.g. status, upcoming recorders, etc) hangs, and I need to restart myth on both the backends in order to get a usable system. I'm at a loss as to how to diagnose further, and whether it's a mysql thread crash (and how to get more logging into t |
[18:35:52] | caelor: | or a myth issue, or a combination of both. The need to restart bugs 8606 and 8585 "feel" like they might be related. Does anyone have any pointers or suggestions for me? |
[18:36:41] | wagnerrp: | i think were missing a bit of the question there |
[18:36:57] | wagnerrp: | please break your messages into smaller chunks |
[18:37:11] | wagnerrp: | so IRC doesnt do it for you, and truncate large sections of text in the process |
[18:37:23] | caelor: | no problem. 1 moment. |
[18:37:40] | caelor: | 've been trying to diagnose an issue I've been having with 0.23-fixes (ubuntu lucid, avenard repos). I have a master backend with a dual tuner DVB-T card, and mysql server, and a slave backend (wake on demand) with a DVB-S tuner. |
[18:37:51] | caelor: | It idles, and even records some things without any issues, but about 2 or 3 times a day, the mysql server reports connection aborted (error reading communication packets). The backend (with -v database) reports lost connection to mysql server during query (preparing an insert into recordedseek), and then keeps reporting Mysql Server Went Away. |
[18:38:07] | caelor: | At that point, any mythweb request that involves the tuners (e.g. status, upcoming recorders, etc) hangs, and I need to restart myth on both the backends in order to get a usable system. I'm at a loss as to how to diagnose further, and whether it's a mysql thread crash (and how to get more logging into that), or a myth issue, or a combination of both |
[18:38:19] | caelor: | The need to restart bugs 8606 and 8585 "feel" like they might be related. Does anyone have any pointers or suggestions for me? |
[18:38:23] | caelor: | (hopefully better) |
[18:39:39] | wagnerrp: | 8585 is not related, 8606 may be |
[18:40:29] | caelor: | ok. My guess on 8585 was based on the recordedseek insert containing a date, so was something of a shot in the dark. |
[18:41:15] | caelor: | I thought 8606 might explain the mythweb "hang", but not the mysql connection failure itself. |
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[18:41:48] | wagnerrp: | 8606 is a deadlock in the mythtv code caused by the mysql connection dropping |
[18:42:29] | caelor: | I'm guessing the recording thread tries to reuse the same mysql connection (which went away), rather than attempting to reopen. It would seem that if the slave is left, it completes the recording, but the overall system remains in the deadlocked state, presumably because of 8606 |
[18:42:40] | wagnerrp: | you may be suffering some different, but related ill effect also by the connection dropping |
[18:43:01] | caelor: | yes. Could you give me any pointers to diagnose the root cause of the connection drop? |
[18:43:21] | wagnerrp: | no clue, i dont deal with the code internals much |
[18:43:35] | sphery: | caelor: are you using MySQL 5.5? |
[18:43:51] | sphery: | oh, wait, wagnerrp said it's not related, so I guess not |
[18:44:12] | sphery: | (not important, that is) |
[18:44:20] | wagnerrp: | sphery: yeah, nothing to do with mysql time issues |
[18:44:27] | caelor: | mysqld Ver 5.1.41–3ubuntu12.3-log apparently |
[18:45:19] | sphery: | caelor: yeah, so #8585 is definitely not the issue |
[18:45:51] | caelor: | ok, that's one less thing to complicate things then! |
[18:45:55] | sphery: | caelor: OK, so mysql has timeouts... Some have reported that Qt-MySQL drivers don't properly reconnect after timeout on some distros (yours included). |
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[18:47:55] | sphery: | caelor: So, can you edit /etc/my.cnf (or /etc/mysql/my.cnf or whatever) and modify wait_timeout and interactive_timeout . If you set them to very large values, and notice that MythTV runs for much longer, that's likely the issue. If you want quicker feedback, set them to small values. Both are set using seconds and both default (if not specified in my.cnf) to 8hrs (28800 seconds) |
[18:48:06] | caelor: | Yes, I'd seen reports of timeout issues. I'd set the following values to try and rule that out: conf.d/mythtv.cnf:connect_timeout = 2592000 |
[18:48:06] | caelor: | conf.d/mythtv.cnf:wait_timeout = 2592000 |
[18:48:07] | caelor: | conf.d/mythtv.cnf:net_read_timeout=120 |
[18:48:07] | caelor: | conf.d/mythtv.cnf:interactive_timeout = 2592000 |
[18:48:30] | wagnerrp: | thats a long timeout |
[18:48:31] | sphery: | and with those values it still happens |
[18:48:36] | sphery: | yeah, 720 days :) |
[18:48:38] | caelor: | I've not noticed any change in frequency with those |
[18:48:45] | sphery: | er, 720 hours |
[18:48:49] | wagnerrp: | s/days/houts/ |
[18:48:50] | sphery: | 30 days |
[18:48:51] | caelor: | yep ;) I was being extra-cautious! |
[18:50:01] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you know how to change permissions of a file in the repository? |
[18:50:12] | sphery: | so if that's not the issue, then it may be the "drivers give the wrong error message and it's completely unrelated to losing the DB connection" issue |
[18:50:27] | sphery: | caelor: do you have logs around the time when a "lost connection" was first reported? |
[18:51:24] | caelor: | possibly. I had a nice working single backend system under jaunty, and rolled the system forward to lucid, reinstalled myth from scratch and added the slave backend all at the same time. Which with hindsight might have made it harder to track down! |
[18:51:32] | caelor: | @sphery: backend, or mysql? |
[18:51:35] | sphery: | wagnerrp: meaning the executable permission? |
[18:51:45] | sphery: | caelor: mythtv logs--so backend, I guess |
[18:51:58] | wagnerrp: | specifically to turn executable off |
[18:52:05] | caelor: | certainly. Any suggestions on a good place to post? |
[18:52:14] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, you need to modify the svn:executable property on the file |
[18:53:03] | sphery: | svn propset svn:executable ON /path/to/file |
[18:53:07] | sphery: | then commit it |
[18:53:17] | sphery: | or OFF for off :) |
[18:53:32] | wagnerrp: | they both enable it |
[18:53:37] | wagnerrp: | the OFF, it does nothing |
[18:54:07] | sphery: | ah, yeah, to remove, it would be: |
[18:54:14] | sphery: | svn propdel svn:executable /path/to/file |
[18:54:31] | sphery: | ON or anything else turns the property on (so OFF turns it on :) |
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[18:54:34] | wagnerrp: | ah, thanks |
[18:54:59] | sphery: | I learned something new, too--never had to remove exec from a file |
[18:55:03] | sphery: | so thank you :) |
[18:55:06] | caelor: | @sphery: how much of the log do you require, and where is the preferred place to post? |
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[18:55:38] | sphery: | caelor: maybe 30 lines or so before and after the first error... please paste to http://mythtv.pastebin.com/ |
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[18:58:37] | caelor: | @sphery: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/HWhAMsa5 |
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[19:00:15] | sphery: | caelor: I'll look in a minute--I got a phone call |
[19:00:32] | caelor: | no problem, real life comes first! |
[19:00:36] | brikp: | anyone up for a backend hardware question? |
[19:00:49] | wagnerrp: | shoot |
[19:00:57] | Beirdo: | BANG |
[19:01:08] | gizmobay: | You got me |
[19:01:09] | ** wagnerrp collapses ** | |
[19:01:51] | brikp: | HDHomerun for tuner. mini-system for front end (ion and all that). ATSC HD. What would be a good hardware config for a backend? processor/ram? |
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[19:02:07] | gizmobay: | Can you pause a custom record rule or only delete it? |
[19:02:20] | wagnerrp: | any decent AMD dual core would do |
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[19:02:29] | wagnerrp: | or a bit pricier a Core2 or i5 dual core |
[19:02:59] | brikp: | i have a P4 2.66mhz, if I add ram and decent HD will that gove me any love? |
[19:03:10] | wagnerrp: | that wont even run linux |
[19:03:21] | brikp: | really? lol, why not? |
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[19:03:37] | wagnerrp: | thats slower than my first computer back in the '80s |
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[19:04:46] | wagnerrp: | now if you really mean a 2.66GHz P4, that will do fine as a backend, if a bit power hungry |
[19:05:00] | brikp: | lol, Ghz, YES |
[19:05:01] | wagnerrp: | you want at least 512MB of memory, 1GB or better would be preferred |
[19:05:22] | brikp: | it has 512 but can be upgraded to 3G RAM |
[19:05:29] | brikp: | 2G i mean |
[19:05:35] | wagnerrp: | 512 should be fine |
[19:05:47] | brikp: | really? that would be cool |
[19:06:02] | brikp: | how about disk? should I add a sata controller? |
[19:06:09] | brikp: | and fast disks? |
[19:06:20] | wagnerrp: | PATA is plenty fast |
[19:06:25] | wagnerrp: | but i wouldnt buy new PATA disks |
[19:06:30] | brikp: | its IDE now :( |
[19:06:32] | wagnerrp: | if you need more hard drive space, get a controller card |
[19:06:39] | wagnerrp: | IDE == PATA |
[19:07:02] | wagnerrp: | or better, just get a new backend |
[19:07:04] | brikp: | ahh, thanks, i thought i was techie but i guess not |
[19:07:16] | brikp: | a new backend, whole system? |
[19:07:29] | wagnerrp: | swapping out the guts for a decent dual core AMD would be $150-$200 |
[19:08:01] | wagnerrp: | i did so for $160 last spring, but memory prices have gone up a bit since then |
[19:08:20] | brikp: | any built systems that would be good? I dont want to tinker tooooo much |
[19:09:04] | brikp: | and any comments on a "Zotac MAG HD-ND01" as a front end? |
[19:09:47] | johnnyj: | brikp: check if your local pc store has bare bones or open box returns |
[19:10:37] | brikp: | good idea, my P4 is an older bare bones |
[19:12:14] | sphery: | caelor: OK, that ("Lost connection to MySQL server during query") is not the error message that you get when the drivers get confused and give a bad error ("MySQL server has gone away"). So, since you got a real error saying there's a connection problem before you got the "MySQL server has gone away" errors, I'm guessing that the "MySQL server has gone away" errors are real. |
[19:12:40] | sphery: | caelor: and from that error, "Lost connection to MySQL server during query," I'd guess it's most likely a network issue. |
[19:12:45] | sphery: | is this wifi or something? |
[19:13:02] | brikp: | so I guess, given that i'm doing HDHomerun and a separate front end the backend doesnt need to be high end? If i'm going to put money into it is it best to go for RAM or Processor? |
[19:13:31] | caelor: | nope, wired. And according to ifconfig, there's been no networking issues (errors, framing, etc) on either box |
[19:13:49] | sphery: | hmmm |
[19:14:11] | sphery: | I'm definitely out of ideas--but when you figure it out, I'd be very interested to know what it is. |
[19:15:09] | caelor: | :) I'll be sure to let you know. Unfortunately, at the moment, it's kind of a show stopper for me. I'm almost considering setting up a replicated mysql server on the slave... but I suspect that may be a whole new can of worms |
[19:15:14] | wagnerrp: | brikp: if you buy a new processor, youll need new memory |
[19:15:39] | wagnerrp: | and any processor you buy for it (excluding Atom and Via garbage) will be plenty for just about anything you may want to do with it |
[19:16:51] | johnnyj: | any multi core proc excluding atom, I would say |
[19:17:04] | johnnyj: | i don't know about via either |
[19:17:09] | sphery: | caelor: ok, another question--can you pastebin the output of: mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -e 'show variables like "%timeout%";' |
[19:18:36] | caelor: | sphery: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/0tFzMMiP |
[19:18:40] | brikp: | okay, so consensus is to upgrade mobo, processor and RAM or get a new box altogether for backend (versus adding RAM, sata controller and disks to my P4 2.66ghz)? |
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[19:19:10] | wagnerrp: | ive just never much liked P4s |
[19:19:21] | sphery: | caelor: on your master backend is the database on the same file system as you're using for recordings? |
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[19:20:12] | caelor: | no, different physical drives (sda1 (os drive) for db, sdb1 for recordings) |
[19:20:44] | brikp: | any thoughts on http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856173001 (Zotac MAG HD-ND01 NVIDIA ION) for a frontend?\ |
[19:20:56] | caelor: | slave backend mounts recording directory over nfs, to the same mountpoint on the slave |
[19:21:11] | sphery: | hmmm |
[19:21:29] | sphery: | I'm not sure, then |
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[19:23:48] | caelor: | sphery: I think I'll have to try re-wiring the infrastructure then, in case it's switches or cabling. Interesting that the stack isn't reporting problems though |
[19:24:51] | sphery: | yeah, it may not be that, but I don't see any mysql bugs that would cause that in current mysql |
[19:25:05] | sphery: | and don't know of any specific issues with mythtv mysql usage that might cause it |
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[19:26:09] | caelor: | neither. But I've spent several days on this and drawn a blank from googling and hunting through bug databases, so I thought I'd finally ask for help! |
[19:26:50] | sphery: | heh, well we appreciate your researching, first, and I only wish I could have been more help |
[19:27:53] | sphery: | wagnerrp: we need iamlindoro around to reply to Ed W's post. |
[19:28:08] | sphery: | you wouldn't happen to know what his plans are for that, would you? |
[19:28:56] | wagnerrp: | not off hand |
[19:29:14] | caelor: | sphery: it's ok, thanks for your time and the insights you could bring. I'll try and find a long cat5 cable, and run it into the same switch as the MBE. Once I fix it, I'll let you know what I trace it to. |
[19:29:15] | wagnerrp: | i think its all waiting for the videofile stuff |
[19:29:16] | sphery: | hmmm... I think he had mentioned it before |
[19:29:24] | sphery: | I just don't know what his current plans are |
[19:29:30] | sphery: | and, yeah, that makes sense |
[19:29:49] | sphery: | I'll send a "teaser" response for him |
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[19:43:16] | gizmobay: | Can you pause a custom record rule or only delete it? |
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[19:45:17] | johnnyj: | sphery: that multi-bookmark ui feature sounds shinyh |
[19:45:27] | johnnyj: | s/yh/y |
[19:48:59] | sphery: | heh, yeah--I just have to get around to doing it |
[19:49:16] | sphery: | oh, and I will need some help with the UI, so if you're still itching for a project at that time... ;) |
[19:49:51] | johnnyj: | it was the UI code and the popup dialogs that sparked my interest in contributing – so definately |
[19:50:09] | sphery: | cool |
[19:50:27] | sphery: | as that's the part I'm clueless about (not to mention the whole UI design stuff) |
[19:51:04] | johnnyj: | not that I'm formally learning C++ I really appreciate what QT gives us |
[19:51:22] | johnnyj: | s/not/now |
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[20:33:07] | justinh: | ROFLMAO. We now have a dog-shaped hole in the voile at the patio doors. Door is open thought the doggy, so let me just go right through there. Whoops |
[20:34:49] | wagnerrp: | voile? that like a screen door? |
[20:35:52] | Beirdo: | it's open now |
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[20:41:08] | justinh: | voile is like a net curtain |
[20:43:13] | caelor: | sphery: ok, so a little bit of routing of a new cable, and the SBE is now plugged into the same switch as the MBE. Doing a test recording now. Hopefully it resolves the issue. Will post back in about 24 hours with results, either way. Thanks for your help earlier. |
[20:46:01] | sphery: | caelor: good luck--hope it works |
[20:46:20] | caelor: | (and wagnerrp, thanks for your help too) |
[20:46:33] | caelor: | sphery: thanks. Me too, it's been really bugging me! |
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[20:53:00] | wagnerrp: | RDV_Linux: do you know the MythVideo image selection order off hand? |
[20:54:04] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: Can you be more specific? Are you referring to the trunk only image picker? |
[20:54:51] | wagnerrp: | yeah, trying to get this metadata importer to function as closely to mythvideo as possible |
[20:56:01] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: What you get returned from both ttvdb.py and tmdb.py is multiple images per type but always in highest to lowest rated by their respective community. |
[20:56:13] | wagnerrp: | so just pull the first of each type then? |
[20:57:25] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: and you will get the highest rated. ttvdb is slightly trickier as you will get season specific poster and banner if you called ttvdb with a season specified. |
[20:57:34] | wagnerrp: | i thought there was something special in there to get the proper season for coverart, and ... yeah that |
[20:58:31] | RDV_Linux: | the only trick is adding the desired season number |
[20:59:11] | wagnerrp: | when searching for a specific episode, dont you always have to set the season number? |
[20:59:11] | RDV_Linux: | If season specific images do not exist then the image will fall back to the series highest rated. |
[20:59:32] | RDV_Linux: | both a season AND episode number |
[20:59:47] | wagnerrp: | right, but im just saying, wouldnt it always get the proper season then? |
[20:59:58] | RDV_Linux: | specials have a season number of 0 (zero) |
[21:00:06] | wagnerrp: | ah |
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[21:25:54] | willebanks: | good day all |
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[21:30:22] | willebanks: | does anyone know if it is possible to record tv shows by connecting a computer to the video out cable of a vip1200 uverse box |
[21:30:40] | wagnerrp: | sure |
[21:30:51] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Recording_Digital_Cable |
[21:37:38] | wagnerrp: | note that only the last option, that 'analog capture' pertains to you |
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[21:40:41] | Beirdo: | hahaha |
[21:41:01] | Beirdo: | record all episodes on this channel of Deadliest Catch... |
[21:41:03] | Beirdo: | bad idea |
[21:41:13] | Beirdo: | this weekend is a marathon again |
[21:41:57] | Beirdo: | Saturday from 6am to 7pm solid, it would be recording |
[21:42:08] | Beirdo: | then Sunday 8am-4pm |
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[22:16:10] | rileyp: | I installed nvidia 256 drivers last night now I have no tv playback in myth (seems to be a problem with vidpua) as playback works if I choose slim rather than vidpau normal as the playback method |
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[22:18:49] | rileyp: | the driver seems to of installed ok In using karmic I added the vidpau lauchpad ppa and keyring and everything went smooth I have done a reboot and still no vidpau in myth! |
[22:20:11] | sphery: | Heh, Farmville is the reason for the Firefox 3.6.6. |
[22:20:17] | sphery: | I'll be skipping that upgrade. |
[22:22:16] | sphery: | rileyp: I can't help you (I don't use VDPAU), but at least from the *buntu side, you might find someone helpful in #mythbuntu. I thought I'd heard that the 256 drivers, when in alpha/beta were known to not work with Myth's VDPAU. |
[22:22:45] | sphery: | If that's the case, you'll need to either stick with Slim (not VDPAU Slim, but plain Slim) or downgrade drivers. |
[22:23:14] | sphery: | haven't heard anything about the 256 drivers since they were released, though |
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[22:23:47] | sphery: | (but it's usually smart--on your MythTV box--to wait until you see it's all clear for the upgrade when a major nvidia driver version change occurs) |
[22:24:00] | zoran119: | hey i keep getting the following error |
[22:24:06] | zoran119: | 2010-06–30 08:20:37.902 Coverart download finished: Tried to write myth://Coverart@192.168.1.8:6543/0322420_coverart.jpg, but it appears to be an HTML redirect (filesize 178). 1 |
[22:24:18] | zoran119: | anyone know what the reason might be? |
[22:24:40] | sphery: | bad grabber data |
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[22:25:19] | sphery: | you'd need to see what the grabber is reporting as the coverart and then figure out why it's a redirect and why the redirect isn't followed |
[22:26:37] | sphery: | some of the grabber gurus might be able to help you, but any diagnosis you can do beforehand would be very welcome |
[22:27:14] | zoran119: | sphery: have to go to work... will check in when i get back... |
[22:27:17] | zoran119: | sphery: thanks |
[22:28:19] | rileyp: | sphery you are probably correct maybe Im getting excited.... I thought it was all good with 256 drivers obiviosuly not.... |
[22:28:42] | rileyp: | Ill rol back to 195 cheers rileyp |
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[22:33:23] | Zathras: | Hi. Dunno if this is a v4l or myth issue. But when I try to record with Myth I the attempt fails. In log: Channel(/dev/video0): SetInputAndFormat() faile |
[22:34:07] | rileyp: | sounds like a operrator issue |
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[22:34:25] | rileyp: | I have to go to work... |
[22:34:27] | rileyp: | bye |
[22:34:52] | Zathras: | ivtv-tune (set stuff) followed by cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/t.mpg works fine |
[22:35:37] | simcop2387-lap: | anyone have any idea how well the PCI (not express) versions of the nvidia 8000/7000 series work for mythtv and vdpau? i'm curious if they'd have enough bandwidth for doing 1080i/720p very well or if i should go instead for one of the AGP 6000 series that can handle mpeg2 vdpau but not much else |
[22:35:49] | rileyp: | Zathras, you need to much more specific if you want help you cantjust jump on and saymy tuner wont work why |
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[22:37:04] | Zathras: | rileyp, it is the first thing in the log. Don't have much more, I can tell it is a PVR350 PAL but don't know what other info is needed |
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[22:37:28] | rileyp: | for vdpau support you need 9400> or greater I think |
[22:37:35] | wagnerrp: | no, anything 8-series |
[22:37:39] | wagnerrp: | (or better) |
[22:37:49] | Zathras: | ivtv seems to work as it does so manually from cli |
[22:37:51] | wagnerrp: | (except the original 8800 cards) |
[22:38:04] | rileyp: | wagnerrp, Really thats great to know thanks |
[22:38:27] | Zathras: | filerights seem to be ok too on /dev/video* |
[22:40:56] | sphery: | Zathras: sounds like you configured an ivtv card as a V4L card |
[22:41:27] | Zathras: | I have 2 cards (1 ivtv and 1 4vl (bttv)) |
[22:42:20] | Zathras: | how can I check this? (it used to work with myth 0.21 (now on 0.23) but I must confess I played with settings so I might have borked up somewhere up the road |
[22:42:34] | sphery: | in mythtv-setup, Capture Cards |
[22:43:01] | sphery: | make sure the ivtv one is set up as an MPEG encoder (might say something about PVR-x50, too... I don't remember the words) |
[22:43:27] | sphery: | also note that if you don't configure it not to do so, the video device nodes will tend to flip flop order on reboot |
[22:43:37] | simcop2387-lap: | wagnerrp: from what i read in the nvidia readmes the 6200s support it for mpeg1/2 only which would be fine for me (hdhomerun) |
[22:43:44] | sphery: | so you may have one card ivtv and one v4l, but when you rebooted, they switched order, and now they're wrong |
[22:43:53] | sphery: | if so, you need to fix your system config |
[22:44:07] | sphery: | using either udev or the module's device node option |
[22:44:14] | simcop2387-lap: | wagnerrp: i'm just wondering if the PCI cards can handle the bandwidth for vdpau i honestly don't know this is for an older system that doesn't have PCIe |
[22:44:27] | sphery: | simcop2387-lap: 6200 suppors XvMC--which is garbage |
[22:44:39] | Zathras: | according to mythtv-setup: [mpeg: /dev/video0 ] [ v4l: /dev/video1] |
[22:44:42] | sphery: | simcop2387-lap: you need an 8x00 or better for VDPAU (which is useful) |
[22:44:44] | Zathras: | this is correct afaik |
[22:45:02] | sphery: | Zathras: and remember /dev/video* can change order... |
[22:45:47] | Zathras: | yes. But with v4l you can list all TV cards and it too lists /dev/video0 to be the pvr |
[22:46:00] | simcop2387-lap: | yea i'm apparently remembering which ones support things wrong, guess that leaves me the PCI option only really |
[22:47:22] | Beirdo: | sphery: udev to the rescue for me :) |
[22:47:51] | Beirdo: | made it put in symlinks which I then use in mythtv for access |
[22:48:13] | simcop2387-lap: | either that or a much more expensive whole system upgrade |
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[22:50:16] | Zathras: | ivtvctl --all |less |
[22:50:31] | Zathras: | dmesg | egrep -i '(ivtv|tveeprom|tuner)' |
[22:51:02] | Zathras: | euhm |
[22:51:24] | Zathras: | how does ivtv start counting? I see Tuner-1. Does it not start at 0 ? |
[22:51:47] | Zathras: | ah. bttv is tuner-2 |
[22:51:52] | Zathras: | sees ok |
[22:51:56] | Zathras: | *seems |
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[23:14:21] | Zathras: | now running some tests. This appears to be the issue/fix: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IVTV#I_upgraded_my . . . rd_anything. |
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[23:26:05] | opij: | How difficult would it be to make some kind of setup with a core 2 duo 1.7 GHz w/ 2 GB RAM computer connected to a tv somehow (wireless or otherwise) and preconfigure a list of free streams on the internet that I could then flip through with a remote control with the receiver either connected to my computer or connected to the TV? |
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[23:35:04] | zoran119: | how do i get the frontend to use imdbpy.py instead of tmdb.pl for metadata search? |
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[23:36:33] | kormoc: | zoran119, as imdb scripts break the imdb terms of service, you won't get support for them in here |
[23:37:36] | zoran119: | kormoc: oh... wasn't aware... don't need the script then |
[23:37:39] | zoran119: | kormoc: thanks |
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[23:53:20] | Beirdo: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/352556 |
[23:53:23] | Beirdo: | hehe |
[23:53:37] | Beirdo: | the answer now is.... I intend to be working on that soon. |
[23:53:48] | Beirdo: | only almost 2 years after it was hinted at |
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[23:56:34] | wagnerrp: | its a shame that after all this time, were still suffering clock issues during DST changes |
[23:56:53] | wagnerrp: | i say we should drop everything were working on and fix that |
[23:57:10] | wagnerrp: | god forbid someone lose something they were trying to record at 3AM |
[23:57:19] | wagnerrp: | everyone knows thats when all the good shows are on |
[23:57:38] | wagnerrp: | like shopping, and poker reruns |
[23:57:48] | icebalm: | mmmmm poker |
[23:58:30] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: technically, you could download their several hundred MB text database, and scrape it locally on your own system |
[23:58:34] | wagnerrp: | that is still allowed... :) |
[23:59:04] | Beirdo: | Ouch! |
[23:59:04] | icebalm: | sounds efficient |
[23:59:22] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: I already suggested a solution for that :) |
[23:59:38] | Beirdo: | but anyways, it would be a significant change :) |
[23:59:40] | wagnerrp: | opij: you mean... mythnetvision? |
[23:59:57] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: was somewhat strict rules for the data too iirc |
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