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| [00:04:22] | Beirdo: | OK, stupid screen saver went off while I was playing the video :) |
| [00:04:44] | Beirdo: | 720p playing on my Sempron 2800 with nvidia 6600 |
| [00:05:11] | Beirdo: | it's a Weee bit motion-challenged, but it's pretty close :) |
| [00:05:27] | Beirdo: | watchable, but makes ya feel like yer a touch drunk |
| [00:06:44] | rhollan: | Hmm menu key on the MCE setting on the Harmony300 is detected by irw as DCD |
| [00:06:52] | rhollan: | on the MCE remote it is detected as Home |
| [00:07:09] | rhollan: | got to run an errand. |
| [00:07:15] | Beirdo: | what's the key to turn on closed caption? |
| [00:07:19] | Beirdo: | been sooo long |
| [00:09:52] | Beirdo: | ahhh t |
| [00:10:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: I dunno, but it's in the Menu... "M"... |
| [00:10:59] | Beirdo: | Jones Soda is from Seattle? |
| [00:11:13] | Beirdo: | dang, I like this city more every day :) |
| [00:11:18] | ** J-e-f-f-A doesn't even know who Jones Soda is... ;-) ** | |
| [00:11:39] | Beirdo: | make good root beer, and good cream soda, etc |
| [00:12:00] | Beirdo: | using cane sugar, no corn syrup |
| [00:12:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ooh... I think I'd like them too. |
| [00:12:35] | Beirdo: | they have other sodas too |
| [00:12:39] | wagnerrp: | heh... the local krogers imports mexican coke since it uses cane sugar |
| [00:12:43] | Beirdo: | drinking cream soda here |
| [00:13:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | My Dad was a die-hard CocaCola drinker until they changed the formula and stopped using real Cane Sugar. And even when they switched 'back', they didn't use Cane Sugar... |
| [00:13:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: No kidding... Jeepers, my dad would have been all over that!!!! |
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| [00:15:35] | wagnerrp: | they only sell it in 8oz glass bottles, so its a bit pricey |
| [00:16:17] | Beirdo: | wow. running in 60% CPU playing H.264 at 720p on my Sempron 2800... no vdpau |
| [00:16:32] | wagnerrp: | what bitrate? |
| [00:16:33] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, they sell real cane sugar coke for some jewish holiday, it's with a yellow cap |
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| [00:16:44] | Beirdo: | dunno, how can I find out easily? |
| [00:16:51] | wagnerrp: | size / time |
| [00:16:57] | Beirdo: | duh |
| [00:16:58] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:16:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Hum... Must be in to Kosher section, eh? |
| [00:17:01] | Beirdo: | one sec |
| [00:17:13] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, depends on the store |
| [00:17:25] | kormoc: | I've seen it both ways (kinky) |
| [00:17:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: That's alright, I'm a diabetic now... so I probably should pass on it anyways!!!! ;-) |
| [00:19:00] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: looks like about 4.4Mbit/s |
| [00:19:10] | wagnerrp: | thats reasonable |
| [00:19:13] | Beirdo: | 1.1G, 35:32 |
| [00:19:34] | wagnerrp: | my A64 3200+ (2GHz) could manage up to around 7mbps before it crapped out |
| [00:20:21] | Beirdo: | not sure if the perceived quality issues are the source, or the slow box :) |
| [00:21:27] | wagnerrp: | dirty subversion, im outright deleting files, i dont care about conflicts |
| [00:21:45] | Beirdo: | oooh, that sounds almost kinky |
| [00:21:54] | wagnerrp: | its a big'un |
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| [00:32:46] | achew22: | Which plugin provides the "Optical Disks" menu? |
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| [00:44:21] | sphery: | achew22: it's just a menu, in which are items that start up various plugins, such as MythArchive and the MythVideo DVD playback option (formerly MythDVD) |
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| [00:44:57] | achew22: | I guess I need to be more specific. Does MythVideo provide the dvd import stuff or is that MythArchive |
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| [00:45:28] | miststlkr: | alright, I'm back and ready to start chipping away at the problem again. If anyone is around who feels like helping, I'm pretty nre to linux and would love a hand. Mythvideo stopped playing videos about a week ago, a dig through the logs comes up with the error "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)" that is as fr as I have gotten so far, no clue what it means yet |
| [00:45:40] | sphery: | achew22: DVD import is MythVideo--see the <depends> tag in the menu itself |
| [00:46:41] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [00:46:56] | Beirdo: | mythgallery never got storage-group-ized, did it? |
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| [00:46:59] | miststlkr: | frontend log: http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/qadt5j9e backend log: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/eG53w1kk |
| [00:48:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: I got a 'fake raid' card working on my system the other day (RocketRaid 2300) – so now I've got an extra 4 SATA ports... ;-) |
| [00:48:31] | Beirdo: | and what the heck is /share/Movies/dvd doing in my setup as a default? |
| [00:48:42] | sphery: | miststlkr: generally that's bad DB config files (mysql.txt or config.xml--and note that your system likely has multiple of these and they must all be correct) that provide username/password/DB host. It may also be an invalid MySQL server config--look for the socket= line in /etc/my.cnf or wherever your distro puts it |
| [00:48:53] | Beirdo: | I thought mythvideo was supposed to use the storage group Videos |
| [00:49:26] | sphery: | I don't think it does for DVD imports--since it can't play back DVD ISOs through SGs |
| [00:49:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: It can use both... ;-) I keep my ISO rips in the 'old-school' mythvideo directories. |
| [00:49:45] | Beirdo: | hmm |
| [00:49:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | ^^ exactly. |
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| [00:50:05] | Beirdo: | and their's also a list of other stuff that I also setup storage groups for |
| [00:50:13] | Beirdo: | this is .... confusing :) |
| [00:50:31] | highzeth: | if I add a second dir(on same nfs share), move a pile of recordings over, am I reading the storage groups doc correct in that the be's will automatically locate these files new location?(and clean up any old location reference) |
| [00:51:00] | miststlkr: | sphery: i'm on mythbuntu 10.04, those paths sound familiar, i'll have a look. unfortunately i know only enough about SQL to get myself in trouble :-P Thanks for the pointers |
| [00:51:15] | highzeth: | ofc adding this new dir to the storage group mbe. |
| [00:51:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | highzeth: Yes, if you add that directory to your storage group(s), and bounce the backend. |
| [00:51:23] | sphery: | miststlkr: you won't need to use SQL to edit those config files :) |
| [00:51:37] | Beirdo: | preferrably off a cement floor |
| [00:52:02] | ** J-e-f-f-A laughs. And can relate at times!!! ** | |
| [00:52:15] | miststlkr: | sphey: thanks, off to play with that and see what comes of it. cheers!! |
| [00:52:22] | sphery: | miststlkr: also, you may want to just sudo mv /etc/my.cnf{,-broken} then restart mysqld and see if it connects... If so, it guarantees the problem is in your /etc/my.cnf (now /etc/my.cnf-broken) and you can then go through it line by line commentting things out to see what it is |
| [00:53:07] | highzeth: | J-e-f-f-A: ahh very good, even on Gbit network the number of files in the default dir takes 5–6 sec to list on the sbe's |
| [00:53:40] | miststlkr: | sphery: would that be "mysqld -restart" ? |
| [00:54:10] | sphery: | usually something else |
| [00:54:17] | sphery: | I don't know how upstart works, though |
| [00:54:40] | miststlkr: | k. maybe a logout/login would do it? |
| [00:54:46] | highzeth: | service mysql restart |
| [00:55:10] | miststlkr: | highzeth – thanks |
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| [01:03:50] | miststlkr: | found my.cnf in /etc/mysql/ and looking through it now, thanks for the suggestion, I'll let you know if anything comes of it. |
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| [01:09:25] | wagnerrp: | highzeth: if youre talking about doing a mythvideo scan, mythvideo hashes any new files it finds |
| [01:09:51] | highzeth: | recordings only |
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| [01:10:21] | wagnerrp: | then why would anything be listing directories? |
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| [01:10:31] | wagnerrp: | the backend should already know of all the recordings that exist |
| [01:10:38] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt have to scan the storage group for new files |
| [01:12:11] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend will search for files within the directories listed for the storage group it thinks it in, and then will fall back to search for it in any storage group defined on that host |
| [01:12:29] | wagnerrp: | its only checking for the existence of a single file, it doesnt have to enumerate the whole directory |
| [01:15:11] | highzeth: | after the number of files passed 2K everything has become less responsive(no surprise there), I was hoping in that spreading out the recordings over 2–3 dirs(even tho from the same nfs share) would perhaps speed up the overall responsiveness. I might be wrong there tho |
| [01:15:49] | wagnerrp: | might actually take longer |
| [01:15:54] | highzeth: | listing any dir on same share with under 1K files is very prompt, not sure if 2K was a sweet spot or not |
| [01:16:02] | wagnerrp: | since it will be polling the remote file system multiple times instead of one |
| [01:16:02] | highzeth: | well then, I stand corrected |
| [01:17:01] | highzeth: | any way to mark a storage group as 'ro'/archive, so the sbe's only utilize a newly created dir then? |
| [01:17:28] | miststlkr: | sphery: the my.cnf socket is set correctly, looking for the mysql.txt that you mentioned |
| [01:17:32] | wagnerrp: | apparently there is some way to manually adjust the weighting of a single directory, so it never gets used |
| [01:17:38] | wagnerrp: | i dont know how to do it though |
| [01:17:54] | highzeth: | hmm ok, I'll dig further, thanx for the input =) |
| [01:18:40] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Storage_Groups_Weighting |
| [01:18:47] | sphery: | note that it doesn't necessarily work the way you expect |
| [01:18:54] | sphery: | i.e. it's a suggestion--not a requirement |
| [01:19:09] | sphery: | and it's very dependent on the SG scheduler you're using |
| [01:19:24] | miststlkr: | sphery – mysql.txt also looks right |
| [01:20:11] | highzeth: | sphery: cheers, will clean my glasses and get on reading |
| [01:20:57] | miststlkr: | sphery: but the config.xml has port set to 0, should that be changed to what the my.cfg has? |
| [01:21:28] | sphery: | 0 is default, which is 3306 or whatever is MySQL default |
| [01:21:32] | sphery: | so probably fine |
| [01:22:03] | miststlkr: | yeah, 3306 is what my.cfg lists.. alright, I'll keep poking... two more config.xml files to look at |
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| [01:27:22] | rhollan: | O.K. I tried to add the DVD button to the mythdv lirc config |
| [01:28:02] | rhollan: | for some reason the Harmony remote, when configured for an MCE remote, thought the Menu key should send DVD. |
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| [01:44:21] | miststlkr: | I dunno.. I'm going to have to call it a night on this... thanks sphery |
| [01:45:06] | sphery: | miststlkr: try asking on the mythtv-users mailing list--you'll usually get someone who's had the same issue who can help (wider audience and all) |
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| [02:34:54] | sphery: | achew22: thanks for catching the dup |
| [02:35:20] | achew22: | thats the 1st time religiously reading digests has paid off |
| [02:35:28] | sphery: | heh |
| [02:35:39] | sphery: | helped me, too--didn't even have to look up the number to mark it :) |
| [02:36:08] | achew22: | Some day I hope to be really helpful and write some code |
| [02:36:18] | achew22: | I also did a little looking into it |
| [02:36:26] | achew22: | I think the problem is in QString from QT 4.7.0 beta 1 |
| [02:36:27] | sphery: | the compile issue? |
| [02:36:35] | achew22: | yeah |
| [02:36:48] | achew22: | it appears they removed the QString::QString(int) overloaded constructor |
| [02:37:02] | sphery: | I may look into it later--I'm working some other projects, now, so my dev box is not booted to the myth dev |
| [02:37:24] | achew22: | so it is either a QT regression or they have removed the QString::Qstring(int) constructor |
| [02:40:48] | wagnerrp: | i cant believe they would do the latter |
| [02:41:25] | achew22: | Yeah, it seems unlikely |
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| [02:50:26] | sphery: | achew22: you have a system to test a patch? |
| [02:50:56] | achew22: | No, sorry. I have 2 roommates which seriously hampers my ability to run trunk |
| [02:51:17] | sphery: | so you don't have 0.23-fixes and Qt 4.7-beta? |
| [02:52:16] | achew22: | I'm on 0.23-fixes with QT 4.6.2 |
| [02:52:26] | sphery: | oh, so you were just looking into it to help... |
| [02:52:36] | achew22: | Yep. I just went to each source file and looked at em |
| [02:52:48] | sphery: | anyway, pretty sure all we need to do is change "return T(0);" to "return T(QString::null);" |
| [02:53:06] | achew22: | I can "brain-compile" as my CS prof calls it |
| [02:53:11] | achew22: | but that is not perfect |
| [02:55:12] | sphery: | there, put a note on the ticket asking the user to make the change and try to recompile |
| [02:55:43] | sphery: | thanks for getting me to look--even though I don't have a Qt 4.7 build done, yet--may have saved me the 6hrs of compiling Qt 4.7 |
| [02:56:12] | sphery: | (I'd much rather wait 'til they have a released version before wasting time compiling it :) |
| [02:57:05] | achew22: | I don't think the Maverick team shares your feelings ;) |
| [02:57:19] | Beirdo: | LDFLAGS="-L/fridge -lbeer" make drunk |
| [02:57:43] | achew22: | sphery: I think this is part of their efforts to get to the "Grumpy Groundhog" release |
| [02:57:46] | sphery: | and, of course, I typo'ed it :) |
| [02:58:03] | sphery: | QString::Null is not spelled with a lower-case n |
| [02:58:41] | Captain_Murdoch: | I think it should be like QString myStr = QString::number(myInt); but then I haven't looked at the code yet. |
| [02:58:54] | sphery: | gotta say I don't like the new Nokia doc format |
| [02:59:05] | sphery: | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.7-snapshot/qstring.html ... uggghhh... so different. |
| [02:59:17] | achew22: | I kind of like it |
| [02:59:22] | achew22: | I think they improved the search stuff |
| [02:59:43] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . nting.h#L231 is the code --lines 236 and 244 |
| [02:59:59] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, they need to set a cookie to allow you to minimize that search area. |
| [03:00:00] | sphery: | those seem to be the "not found" values |
| [03:00:10] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: yeah, wastes a lot of space |
| [03:00:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | I hate it when webpages require you to go 1920x1080 widescreenjust to view the page.:) |
| [03:00:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | I run 2 browsers side by side on my widescreen laptop normally. |
| [03:01:14] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: um, "this is 2009, people" |
| [03:01:16] | Captain_Murdoch: | 3:4 ratio or similar I guess. |
| [03:01:26] | sphery: | (quoting http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6693 ) |
| [03:02:02] | Beirdo: | Captain_Murdoch: yeah, that's so annoying |
| [03:02:03] | sphery: | I agree, though, 16:10 is perfect for 2 browser windows side-by-side... It's the 2-page width |
| [03:02:50] | sphery: | heh, I still think #6693 has one of the best descriptions, ever |
| [03:03:22] | sphery: | especially since the guy didn't realize that the only reason it was using half the width was because the other half was reserved for the pop-up with details |
| [03:03:57] | achew22: | Did the patch to mythweb that made "play on frontend" work again get backported to fixes? |
| [03:04:17] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [03:04:19] | sphery: | no idea, but I'll guess no |
| [03:04:20] | wagnerrp: | sphery: found a use for 'this channel only' |
| [03:04:29] | Beirdo: | great description |
| [03:04:32] | sphery: | ok... |
| [03:04:35] | sphery: | what use? |
| [03:04:59] | wagnerrp: | some show thats playing on fox, and then playing one week later on FX |
| [03:05:14] | sphery: | and you have bad data that doesn't show them as the same? |
| [03:05:15] | wagnerrp: | different episode ids, so its not matching through that |
| [03:05:22] | sphery: | why different programids? |
| [03:05:22] | wagnerrp: | different description, so its not matching through that |
| [03:05:30] | sphery: | they are different? |
| [03:05:34] | sphery: | or just garbage data? |
| [03:05:38] | wagnerrp: | and FX is listing it as a new airing, so 'new episodes only' doesnt work |
| [03:05:42] | wagnerrp: | im assuming garbage data |
| [03:05:46] | sphery: | if the latter, someone should tell SD/TMS |
| [03:05:47] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, wagnerrp, what do you think about this: http://mythtv.bc2va.org/services/themes/?version=0.23 http://mythtv.bc2va.org/services/themes/?vers . . . p;aspect=4:3 |
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| [03:06:16] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: still loading, but I think--just from the URI, I love it |
| [03:06:23] | sphery: | there, got it--I do love it! |
| [03:06:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | needs an xml version for the theme downloader and the download links don't work yet, but it's a proof of concept. |
| [03:06:41] | sphery: | though we'll need to fix up those screen caps :) |
| [03:06:47] | Beirdo: | Captain_Murdoch: you are missing one :) Terra |
| [03:06:54] | Captain_Murdoch: | yes, some arethe low res versions for the theme chooser in the FE now. |
| [03:07:03] | sphery: | did you write it in Perl or PHP for easy install on services? |
| [03:07:07] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: no sense listing a pre-loaded theme |
| [03:07:07] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, those are non-stock (ie, ones not in the mythtv tarball |
| [03:07:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, php |
| [03:07:14] | sphery: | cool |
| [03:07:18] | Beirdo: | ahhh |
| [03:07:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | it reads the theminfo.xml files |
| [03:07:26] | Beirdo: | fair enough |
| [03:07:30] | sphery: | I've done exactly one PHP app in my life--and I'd be embarrassed to show it to anyone :) |
| [03:07:36] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, so these would be the ones people might want to download |
| [03:07:43] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [03:07:57] | Beirdo: | and they all need modifying... |
| [03:08:00] | Beirdo: | sigh |
| [03:08:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | basically these are the ones in myththemes and the two from the contest that aren't in svn. |
| [03:08:18] | sphery: | I love that Childish lizard |
| [03:08:26] | Captain_Murdoch: | trying to keep the page simple. I think I really would like to get the theme downloader into 0.24. |
| [03:08:28] | Beirdo: | every flipping one needs modifying (in mythweather) |
| [03:08:54] | Beirdo: | which I should get back to |
| [03:08:55] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:08:57] | wagnerrp: | well you know... one just followed the programming of the last |
| [03:09:00] | Captain_Murdoch: | was thinking the client portion would just be a perl or python helper app that the FE and BE called. |
| [03:09:16] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: i guess this would have a JSON/XML interface for the frontend application? |
| [03:09:24] | sphery: | not directly in the C++? |
| [03:09:43] | sphery: | I guess from the "grabber" perspective, the helper makes sense |
| [03:09:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, yeah, was thinking simple, but I'm not a JSON/XML person really, so I coded up the pretty version first. :) |
| [03:10:01] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:10:17] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, yeah, also that way we could have the grabber upgrade itself it we wanted. |
| [03:10:24] | sphery: | cool |
| [03:10:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | ie, if we introduce more intelligence. |
| [03:10:35] | Beirdo: | the capture you have of metallurgy is kinda out of focus |
| [03:10:55] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, those are the preview imagesfrom the theme dirs. some are very low ressince they were meant for the FE theme chooserscreen. |
| [03:11:01] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: it might be interesting to have the entire thing operate over JSON or XML, and just have a javascript function on the browser render the 'pretty' page |
| [03:11:04] | sphery: | Beirdo: those are the screen caps included in the themes--where they were made for the low-res preview in setup |
| [03:11:05] | Captain_Murdoch: | ie, we need to update them. |
| [03:11:07] | Beirdo: | aaaah |
| [03:11:12] | Beirdo: | I getcha |
| [03:11:17] | sphery: | wow, I was /much/ slower than Captain_Murdoch on that one |
| [03:11:44] | Captain_Murdoch: | I save lots of time since my space bar only works occasionally. :) |
| [03:11:46] | wagnerrp: | unless it would be poor form to have a page that /required/ javascript to run |
| [03:11:51] | sphery: | heh |
| [03:11:54] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:11:56] | Beirdo: | please |
| [03:12:07] | Beirdo: | these days, we are lucky it's not flash |
| [03:12:09] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, I was thinking simple to begin with. it can be more fancy later |
| [03:12:37] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: well im just thinking at that point, the bit hosted on /services can be dead simple |
| [03:12:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'm fine with it requiring javascript. you can't view previews in lynx. |
| [03:13:31] | Beirdo: | and mythweb is already requiring javascript, is it not? |
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| [03:13:36] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, depends on who's working on itand whether they're more proficient in javascript or php or similar I guess. |
| [03:13:56] | ** wagnerrp hands Captain_Murdoch a replacement spacebar ** | |
| [03:14:05] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:14:20] | sphery: | maybe he just needs the spring? |
| [03:14:35] | Beirdo: | or to get the cookie crumbs from under it |
| [03:14:40] | sphery: | heh |
| [03:14:42] | wagnerrp: | how dare you suggest an M could die in such a manner |
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| [03:14:51] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, I have to hit it hard on this laptop. waiting for it to die to determine what to do next. I had 3 of these laptops. my wife killed one and is using the 3rd now. I may have to start swapping parts to get the keyboard out of the one she messed up. |
| [03:14:52] | sphery: | he has an M |
| [03:15:04] | sphery: | and it doesn't do spaces... wow, and I thought they were high quality |
| [03:15:04] | wagnerrp: | well you brought up buckling springs |
| [03:15:31] | wagnerrp: | nearly all of the crap you buy these days just has some rubber membrane |
| [03:15:35] | Captain_Murdoch: | if I hit it on the middle it works, it just doesn't workwhen my thumb drifts off to the side too much. |
| [03:15:43] | sphery: | even my garbage ones have springs... they're just the V-shaped springs with lifters (not the vertical "real" springs of the M) |
| [03:16:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, this is a P3 laptop I just use as a vnc client. |
| [03:16:26] | ** rhollan remembers his first keyboard... physically part of an ASR-33 teletype ** | |
| [03:16:41] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: I think that's bad springs... pop the space bar off, and you'll likely find that one of the V-springs was out of its groove... pop it back in with the spring properly positioned and it's good |
| [03:17:02] | sphery: | I learned to type on an IBM Selectric :) |
| [03:17:09] | rhollan: | lol |
| [03:17:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, it goes up and fine. |
| [03:17:17] | rhollan: | Now that was a nice keyboard. |
| [03:18:06] | ** Captain_Murdoch took typing on real typewriters in high school ** | |
| [03:18:26] | wagnerrp: | Captain_Murdoch: theres usually a metal C bracket that fits under the spacebar, and ensures that pressure on one side is translated evenly, that may have pulled out of the slot on one or both sides |
| [03:18:26] | Captain_Murdoch: | ~1986–7. |
| [03:18:36] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: probably something liek this: http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:8865 |
| [03:18:54] | wagnerrp: | man, i think thats when i was learning how to walk |
| [03:19:06] | sphery: | hack may not be necessary but they have some good pics |
| [03:19:32] | sphery: | some have a couple of small springs on both sides or 3 springs or whatever across the length of the space bar |
| [03:19:34] | ** Beirdo learned on an old Underwood mechanical typewriter ** | |
| [03:19:49] | Beirdo: | which is why I still POUND the keyboard, I bet |
| [03:19:55] | sphery: | Beirdo: I never could do a mechanical typewriter--required /way/ too much pressure |
| [03:20:06] | sphery: | my dainty fingers couldn't hack it :) |
| [03:20:35] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [03:21:55] | Captain_Murdoch: | Beirdo, same here, the guys at work can hear me typing all over the room. |
| [03:21:56] | sphery: | good video of fixing a space bar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L61Y2HsjANU |
| [03:22:02] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [03:22:22] | sphery: | problem is, though, you do it once, then it works great, then 2 weeks later, it pops out of position and you have to fix it again |
| [03:22:29] | rhollan: | yeah, I type "loud" as well. |
| [03:22:31] | sphery: | especially if you pound the keyboard like Beirdo |
| [03:22:36] | Captain_Murdoch: | although my wireless keyboard is much quieter than the USB one I have to use while my batteries recharging occasionally. |
| [03:23:20] | wagnerrp: | sphery: whoops... nevermind |
| [03:23:35] | wagnerrp: | i just remembered i marked that show for re-record because of storm tickers and cut-ins |
| [03:23:44] | sphery: | ohhh.... :) |
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| [03:31:03] | ** rhollan rips ** | |
| [03:31:29] | wagnerrp: | guess i should get to updating scripts on the wiki for new capabilities in the bindings.... |
| [03:31:52] | wagnerrp: | (basically that means make mythfs not so craptastic) |
| [03:32:18] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [03:32:30] | Beirdo: | make it more... craptacular... instead? |
| [03:33:54] | rhollan: | hey, wagnerrpp: I saw a bunch of mythprotocol entries of yours on th wiki retracted. I was hoping for a complete protocol description |
| [03:34:00] | rhollan: | what happened? |
| [03:34:08] | Beirdo: | Grrrr |
| [03:34:25] | Beirdo: | why won't this flippin setup screen work? |
| [03:34:45] | Beirdo: | tab and arrow keys doing nothing (in mythfrontend settings) |
| [03:35:00] | ** rhollan thinks myth should hide the mouse cursor when playing pack content or TV until the mouse gets moved ** | |
| [03:35:05] | wagnerrp: | retracted? |
| [03:35:13] | rhollan: | yeah, a bunch were deleted |
| [03:35:22] | wagnerrp: | you mean moved? |
| [03:35:24] | rhollan: | because you were the only one who made the entry |
| [03:35:32] | rhollan: | it struck me as odd |
| [03:35:48] | wagnerrp: | and when i moved them, the wiki automatically created entries in the old location with a redirect to the new location |
| [03:35:55] | wagnerrp: | making me the sole editor of them |
| [03:36:55] | Beirdo: | back to childish |
| [03:36:55] | wagnerrp: | basically, user pages support breadcrumbs, and thinking that was neat at the time, i migrated the protocol pages over to them |
| [03:37:09] | wagnerrp: | only to realize that the normal, non-user pages did not support breadcrumbs |
| [03:37:13] | wagnerrp: | making it just look fugly |
| [03:37:19] | wagnerrp: | so i moved them again |
| [03:37:28] | rhollan: | Oh, that wasn't clear |
| [03:37:34] | wagnerrp: | spamming the wiki with edits, dead pages, and redirects in the process |
| [03:37:45] | rhollan: | I really appreceiated the effort and then was disappointed |
| [03:37:57] | Beirdo: | ewww |
| [03:38:23] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Myth_Protocol_Commands is probably what youre looking for |
| [03:38:26] | Beirdo: | the radar images look like crap in Childish (on widescreen) |
| [03:38:40] | wagnerrp: | and maybe http://mythtv.org/wiki/Myth_Protocol/Guide |
| [03:39:07] | wagnerrp: | or if youve got any direct questions on accessing the protocol, i can answer them if im around |
| [03:39:16] | wagnerrp: | or Captain_Murdoch can correct me if hes around |
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| [03:39:36] | Beirdo: | heh which he is no longer |
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| [03:39:53] | rhollan: | not for a while. I was looking at R/O access to the DB, and I realized that what I wanted could be effected by limiting the command set |
| [03:40:13] | rhollan: | for some FEs |
| [03:40:16] | wagnerrp: | no, the only real database access through the backend is for the settings table |
| [03:40:21] | ** Captain_Murdoch kicks wagnerrp for mentioning his name and causing his chatwindow to popup just as he hits CTRL-W which in turn causes the chat window to close ** | |
| [03:40:31] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:40:33] | wagnerrp: | :) |
| [03:40:34] | Beirdo: | niiice |
| [03:40:50] | rhollan: | er, recordings scheduled? |
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| [03:41:05] | wagnerrp: | not something thats in the database anyway |
| [03:41:08] | Captain_Murdoch: | wagnerrp, so what was it you said? :) |
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| [03:41:27] | Beirdo: | I think my body is going into withdrawl pains here |
| [03:41:28] | wagnerrp: | i was saying i could answer his questions about mythproto if im around |
| [03:41:37] | Beirdo: | better go mainline more coffee |
| [03:41:38] | wagnerrp: | or you could correct my misconceptions about mythproto if youre around |
| [03:42:00] | ** Captain_Murdoch just lost his whole chat history for this channel so he has no clue what was being talked about. ** | |
| [03:42:13] | wagnerrp: | !url log |
| [03:42:13] | MythLogBot: | No match for keyword log |
| [03:42:15] | wagnerrp: | !url logs |
| [03:42:15] | MythLogBot: | logs: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1 |
| [03:42:36] | ** Captain_Murdoch tries to think up another excuse to keep on coding instead. :) ** | |
| [03:43:18] | wagnerrp: | just commenting on me playing the protocol by ear... as opposed to actually having written large swaths of it |
| [03:45:18] | Beirdo: | !url log |
| [03:45:18] | MythLogBot: | log: try !url logs... It's log, it's log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood! |
| [03:45:25] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [03:45:41] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: it's your fault :) |
| [03:45:44] | wagnerrp: | !url Beirdo's log |
| [03:45:44] | MythLogBot: | No match for keyword Beirdo's |
| [03:46:39] | Beirdo: | BRB |
| [03:47:19] | rhollan: | I thought I saw that page, and some links were busted. Is that a different copy? |
| [03:47:34] | wagnerrp: | which page was that? |
| [03:48:24] | rhollan: | Protocol_Commands |
| [03:48:39] | wagnerrp: | its not possible for that page to have broken links |
| [03:49:14] | rhollan: | I will double check |
| [03:49:38] | wagnerrp: | there was an old version of that, which manually linked to all of the available commands |
| [03:49:46] | wagnerrp: | it had broken links to pages never created |
| [03:50:05] | wagnerrp: | however since the current one is a category, it is autogenerated by all pages listed as being of that category |
| [03:50:14] | wagnerrp: | in order for something to be listed there, it must exist |
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| [03:53:55] | rhollan: | maybe the link wasn't busted, but there was no content for some of them. I will try to find one. |
| [03:54:29] | wagnerrp: | thats entirely possible |
| [03:55:17] | wagnerrp: | things like MESSAGE are just empty stubs |
| [03:55:37] | rhollan: | Ahhh! |
| [03:56:13] | wagnerrp: | mainly because neither I nor anyone else who has tried deciphering the protocol before had any use for them |
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| [03:56:37] | wagnerrp: | its used for event passing to the backend |
| [03:57:08] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [03:57:18] | rhollan: | I guess. |
| [03:57:24] | wagnerrp: | QUERY_GENPIXMAP is another one |
| [03:57:28] | Beirdo: | mmmm, protobuf.... |
| [03:57:35] | rhollan: | I was trying to see if a comlete description was available before jumping into my idea |
| [03:57:36] | wagnerrp: | QUERY_CUTLIST |
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| [04:15:13] | ** sphery thinks he tested with the typo ** | |
| [04:15:15] | Beirdo: | OK, Childish is tweaked... next! |
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| [04:15:45] | Beirdo: | next victim.. Graphite |
| [04:16:56] | sphery: | maybe not... |
| [04:16:58] | Beirdo: | oh wow. I think he forgot to finish this one |
| [04:18:08] | sphery: | should have deleted the comment and fixed it, though |
| [04:18:37] | Beirdo: | whatcha breaking, sphery? |
| [04:18:58] | sphery: | trying to get someone who has Qt4.7 beta to test a fix for http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8572 |
| [04:19:05] | Beirdo: | ah |
| [04:19:13] | sphery: | I typo'ed the original comment, then did another to correc tit |
| [04:19:19] | sphery: | don't know which he used in testing |
| [04:21:25] | [R]: | so for some reason i thought my tv didnt pass full 5.1 out the optical out... but it looks like its working now |
| [04:22:30] | ** rhollan copy copy copy ** | |
| [04:22:39] | rhollan: | 100 Mb/s is so slow |
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| [04:35:45] | sphery: | heh, so the typo wasn't a typo |
| [04:37:06] | achew22: | it wasn't QString::Null? |
| [04:37:34] | wagnerrp: | huh... 'svn up' made me give my password twice |
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| [04:37:50] | Beirdo: | usually does |
| [04:38:04] | Beirdo: | first time is a status, I think |
| [04:38:11] | Beirdo: | something like hat |
| [04:38:31] | wagnerrp: | i guess im usually running as my user when i do that rather than root |
| [04:38:48] | wagnerrp: | which reminds me, i should probably chown everything so i can continue doing that as my user |
| [04:38:59] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [04:47:42] | sphery: | achew22: Pretty sure it was QString::null, but it's late, and I'm tired, and I don't have my source, so I may well be wrong. :) Regardless, it should now be QString() --since QString::null is deprecated... |
| [04:50:20] | Beirdo: | hmmm |
| [04:50:41] | Beirdo: | any way to get the images in a theme to be centered within the area you said? |
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| [04:56:31] | sphery: | !url wiki MythUI Theme Development |
| [04:56:31] | MythLogBot: | wiki: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ |
| [04:56:38] | sphery: | ;) |
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| [04:56:54] | wagnerrp: | not quite |
| [04:57:20] | sphery: | can I help it if the log bot isn't smart enough? |
| [04:58:14] | wagnerrp: | !trout MythLogBot precognitience |
| [04:58:14] | ** MythLogBot slaps MythLogBot with a precognitience trout on behalf of wagnerrp... ** | |
| [04:58:47] | sphery: | heh |
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| [05:00:10] | wagnerrp: | california wants to replace license plates with LCDs, that display ads when the car has idled for more than a few seconds |
| [05:01:05] | sphery: | no way... |
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| [05:01:21] | wagnerrp: | apparently it passed through the legislature with no opposition |
| [05:01:23] | sphery: | So, guess we can't call MythLogBot John Henry, just yet |
| [05:01:49] | sphery: | wonder who's going to pay for these |
| [05:02:05] | wagnerrp: | the advertisers, of course |
| [05:02:18] | sphery: | after all LCD's and weather/road dirt/... don't get along |
| [05:02:35] | wagnerrp: | i know i look at every one elses license plate when i drive down the road |
| [05:02:52] | wagnerrp: | i certainly dont pull up too close to people at the light that i cant even see them |
| [05:02:56] | sphery: | they'll make it illegal to stop so close to a car that you block the ads |
| [05:03:09] | wagnerrp: | and then i stare at it the whole time |
| [05:03:11] | sphery: | why make it the plates... just make it the whole rear window |
| [05:03:40] | wagnerrp: | youre missing the more amazing feature |
| [05:03:54] | wagnerrp: | rotating license plates without having to have some funky mechanical contraption! |
| [05:03:59] | sphery: | nice... |
| [05:04:04] | sphery: | just hack the plates |
| [05:04:24] | wagnerrp: | surely theyre going to have underground cottage industries popping up around hacking these for just such a purpose |
| [05:04:37] | wagnerrp: | going past a speed camera? flip your plate |
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| [05:07:03] | wagnerrp: | heheh |
| [05:07:17] | wagnerrp: | 'im sorry officer, guess you should have written down my number BEFORE you pulled me over' |
| [05:08:02] | wagnerrp: | christ... where do these people think this magical technology to secure these systems will come from? |
| [05:09:57] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [05:10:08] | Beirdo: | just hack it to display random ads while you speed |
| [05:10:23] | Beirdo: | if your speed > speed limit, show ads |
| [05:10:24] | wagnerrp: | gee.. i dont know... it must be broken |
| [05:10:27] | Beirdo: | muhahaha |
| [05:10:53] | wagnerrp: | certainly i couldnt have possibly modified your unbreakable system |
| [05:11:16] | Beirdo: | that's unpossible |
| [05:13:31] | Beirdo: | OK, done tweaking Graphite for now |
| [05:13:46] | Beirdo: | back to check something on Childish, then next :) |
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| [05:19:03] | Beirdo: | Metallurgy's turn |
| [05:20:54] | Beirdo: | ah yes, this one needs a LOT of work |
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| [06:36:36] | justinh: | gah. stupid mp3fs |
| [06:37:35] | justinh: | looks like it's totally useless in ubuntu's packaging |
| [06:40:54] | justinh: | GRR. cannot find the file specified. DUH. it's there |
| [06:41:23] | justinh: | it's not even doing it on the same box |
| [06:41:36] | ** rhollan disconnects all the legacy analog stuff from his system: component video, L+R audio, S-Video ** | |
| [06:41:51] | rhollan: | So much neater now: HDMI, 1394 and SPDIF |
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| [06:43:00] | rhollan: | I have multiple connections so I can route either through the PC, TV, or preamp. (So if the mythbox dies, I can still play back non-ripped or DVD content and not need the TV to play audio) |
| [06:47:55] | justinh: | heheh built mp3fs from source ... and... it works! |
| [06:48:08] | justinh: | stupidbloodybuntu |
| [06:50:03] | justinh: | course the difference might be this time I'm running mp3fs as root... who cares? It worky |
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| [06:55:24] | justinh: | grr. 18 seconds remaining. 11 minutes remaining. 20 minutes remaining. 1 second remaining.. can windows simply not do file copy estimates? |
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| [07:00:17] | justinh: | so glad I remembered to 'safely remove hardware'. I mean I don't want my emptyflea player to explode now do I? :-O |
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| [07:11:29] | Beirdo: | onto the Mythbuntu theme we go |
| [07:12:59] | Beirdo: | umm, does the backend stop serving when running mythfilldatabase? |
| [07:13:12] | Beirdo: | or is this machine just eating swap? |
| [07:14:46] | k-man: | afaik, backend does keep serving when mythfilldatabase is being run |
| [07:15:19] | Beirdo: | OK, it's just my dire lack of RAM then :) |
| [07:18:01] | Beirdo: | hahah |
| [07:18:15] | Beirdo: | and stupid mythweather scripts being run niced |
| [07:18:18] | Beirdo: | bah! |
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| [07:41:54] | Beirdo: | on to MythCenter... which seems to use default |
| [07:42:11] | k-man: | Beirdo: what are you actually doing? |
| [07:42:55] | Beirdo: | going through each theme and fixing the mythweather part |
| [07:43:14] | Beirdo: | unborking them, and adding the copyright notices to each screen |
| [07:43:26] | Beirdo: | some were a severe PITA to fix |
| [07:43:34] | ** Beirdo eyes metallurgy ** | |
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| [08:16:11] | blizzard_: | Question, how will Mythtv behave in a twintuner setup? Will I get two channels with the same name (one per tuner) or will Myth handle it in some way, like if tuner1 is in use, then use tuner2? |
| [08:16:21] | justinh: | ruh? |
| [08:16:53] | justinh: | if both tuners will get the same content, then you just set both tuners to use the same 'video source' |
| [08:17:08] | blizzard_: | aaaaaah |
| [08:17:24] | blizzard_: | yeah, twinlnb feeding each tuner |
| [08:17:40] | blizzard_: | 44444lnb with twinports that is |
| [08:19:46] | justinh: | gah stupid work internet connection |
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| [08:29:27] | justinh: | ARGHH. kicking me out of ssh, then when I go to reconnect, I sometimes get as far as entering my username before being kicked out again |
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| [09:02:54] | Beirdo: | if the author of TransBlue or LCARS themes are online, please contact me sometime later. |
| [09:03:02] | Beirdo: | I'm goin to bed now though :) |
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| [09:18:43] | justinh: | transblue? |
| [09:18:53] | justinh: | can't say I've heard of that one |
| [09:21:05] | justinh: | heh no screenshots of it anywhere either |
| [09:21:09] | justinh: | its author must be proud |
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| [09:47:12] | justinh: | oh bugger. Got more holiday days left than I can take before July 1st |
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| [11:03:10] | justinh: | I don't think USB audio devices are supposed to work for 2 seconds then disappear from the bus & smell of burning electronics |
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| [12:32:48] | noaXess: | hey all |
| [12:34:21] | noaXess: | i watch livetv on my first frontend on any channel... if i then start livetv on another frontend the start channel is the last viewed channel on the first frontend.. is there a way to set a start channel for each frontend? |
| [12:34:41] | wagnerrp: | no |
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| [12:37:55] | ** justinh wonders if ffmpeg have fixed seeking in FLAC files yet ** | |
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| [13:49:46] | curtlee: | I a few free hd channel on my cable tv. I have the pchdtv 5500. I want the hd channel to replace the SD channel or just get the tv guide data to also show up |
| [13:49:49] | curtlee: | on the HD channel. I have searched on google, but I just don't know what I should be searching for. Maybe someone can give me some keywords or knows where I |
| [13:49:54] | curtlee: | should look. |
| [13:50:02] | curtlee: | sorry, pasted it from #mythtv |
| [13:50:13] | curtlee: | *I have |
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| [13:59:50] | dewman: | curtlee, did you try this? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/PcHDTV_HD-5500 |
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| [14:08:36] | curtlee: | dewman: yes, but didn't have the info I am looking for |
| [14:09:31] | dewman: | curtlee, ok, so you have channels already on your mythbox and you want to add hd channels is that correct? |
| [14:09:43] | curtlee: | What I need help with isn't card specific |
| [14:10:16] | curtlee: | I can add the HD channels, I just want to replace the SD channel that are the same channel |
| [14:10:46] | curtlee: | and still get the programming data for those channels |
| [14:11:05] | curtlee: | I may have found a solution |
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| [14:11:13] | curtlee: | working on it now |
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| [14:11:48] | wagnerrp: | so make the digital tuner the first tuner on the system, so mythtv uses it first |
| [14:11:59] | wagnerrp: | and set the new channels to be the same channum and callsign as the old ones |
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| [14:12:22] | wagnerrp: | but you really dont want to do that |
| [14:12:29] | curtlee: | it actually has 2 hd tuners and one analog tuner |
| [14:12:31] | wagnerrp: | as they are /not/ the same channel |
| [14:12:43] | curtlee: | and the channel numbers aren't the same |
| [14:12:45] | wagnerrp: | the guide data will be different, as it is HD content |
| [14:12:54] | wagnerrp: | the HD-5500 has a single tuner |
| [14:12:56] | wagnerrp: | not three |
| [14:13:07] | curtlee: | no, it has 3 |
| [14:13:12] | wagnerrp: | no, it has one |
| [14:13:15] | curtlee: | wrong |
| [14:13:18] | wagnerrp: | wrong |
| [14:13:22] | wagnerrp: | single tuner |
| [14:13:29] | wagnerrp: | trust me on this one |
| [14:13:37] | curtlee: | I am using them all right now |
| [14:13:43] | curtlee: | trust me |
| [14:13:53] | wagnerrp: | you can only use one at a time, trust me |
| [14:14:00] | wagnerrp: | your tuner is a hybrid tuner |
| [14:14:18] | wagnerrp: | which means it will show up as two separate tuners to the linux system, one analog through V4L2, and one digital through DVB |
| [14:14:21] | wagnerrp: | however it is a single tuner |
| [14:14:25] | wagnerrp: | and you can only use one at a time |
| [14:15:10] | wagnerrp: | further, due to the way mythtv implements multirec (recording multiple shows simultaneously off a single tuner), it shows up in mythtv as multiple inputs |
| [14:15:27] | wagnerrp: | so from mythtv's view, you have two digital tuners and an analog tuner |
| [14:15:32] | wagnerrp: | but physically, it is a single tuner |
| [14:16:05] | sidh: | Greetings |
| [14:16:07] | curtlee: | I can record 2 hd at the same time |
| [14:16:11] | curtlee: | I just did it |
| [14:16:25] | dewman: | curtlee, I wouldnt argue with wagnerrp, he codes on the mythtv project. =) He is a pretty smart cookie. |
| [14:16:31] | wagnerrp: | you can record one physical channel at a time |
| [14:16:52] | wagnerrp: | with digital tv, each physical channel can contain multiple video streams, virtual channels |
| [14:17:24] | wagnerrp: | those two 'virtual tuners' can record two 'virtual channels' at the same time, but only if they are on the same multiplex, or physical channel |
| [14:17:38] | sidh: | last year while i was trying mythbuntu, i remember viewing a menu for configuring a "remote" (IMon in my case), but here in 0.23 i can't find this menu, could you remind me where it is ? |
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| [14:17:47] | sidh: | please |
| [14:18:03] | dewman: | sidh, myth control center |
| [14:18:44] | curtlee: | well, I just recored 2 hd programs at the same time with the card |
| [14:18:54] | dewman: | that will get lirc installed, then you will want to probally hand modify the lirc files so the buttons correspond with what you want it do do. |
| [14:18:57] | sidh: | dewman: ok i search for it, rellay thank you dewman |
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| [14:19:09] | dewman: | sidh, just drop out of the front end, |
| [14:19:25] | wagnerrp: | curtlee: if you were paying attention when you set up the card, you would have seen an option in mythtv-setup to set how many virtual tuners you wanted to spawn off for that card |
| [14:19:40] | wagnerrp: | mythtv allows up to five virtual tuners per physical digital tuner |
| [14:19:47] | dewman: | sidh, and goto system and it will be in there, as long as you have it installed, if you dont have it installed you can download it from the repos |
| [14:19:49] | sidh: | dewman: i remove the default squeeze lirc .deb because the version was too old |
| [14:20:32] | sidh: | the latest 0.8.26 of lirc has merge all the patch for the imon |
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| [14:20:50] | curtlee: | well, I just looking to get the programming data working on the HD channels and replace the SD channel with the HD channel |
| [14:20:51] | sidh: | so i compile the latest lirc in debian squeeze |
| [14:20:59] | KungFuJesus: | Hmm, I'm getting segfaults on .23's frontend for some reason, can anyone help me out if they look at my backtrace? |
| [14:21:09] | KungFuJesus: | I'm getting a segfault in libqt4gui |
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| [14:21:28] | dewman: | sidh, best bet to make sure you get the remote to work correctly is to purge the old install of lirc and grab the new one, you might have to d/l lirc manually and configure it, as I am not sure what version the control center pulls down. |
| [14:22:20] | sidh: | dewman: before compiling lirc (latest) i did aptitude remove --purge lirc |
| [14:22:23] | KungFuJesus: | this is on ubuntu, btw |
| [14:22:26] | dewman: | sidh, I know with my xbox remote the control center didnt configure the button mappings correctly so I had to do all that by hand. |
| [14:22:33] | dewman: | sidh, perfect. |
| [14:23:04] | dewman: | sidh, then just be sure that there is not any old config files laying around. |
| [14:23:59] | curtlee: | The HD recordings look great, but I can't set them to be recorded because it shows no programming data for those channels |
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| [14:24:42] | curtlee: | They are just the HD version of some local channels I get in SD |
| [14:25:10] | dewman: | curtlee, are you using schedules direct? |
| [14:25:11] | wagnerrp: | curtlee: you need to go into the channel editor and set XMLTV IDs for them before mythtv will be able to pull guide data for them |
| [14:25:30] | curtlee: | yes, schedules direct |
| [14:25:51] | wagnerrp: | go onto your lineup, and mouse over the channel to show the xmltvid for that channel |
| [14:26:09] | wagnerrp: | then set it in the channel editor, in mythtv-setup, in mythweb, or in the frontend in livetv mode |
| [14:26:11] | curtlee: | so it is in the channel editor? I am working on it. |
| [14:26:36] | wagnerrp: | mouse over the channel on your lineup on schedulesdirect's website, that is |
| [14:27:31] | dewman: | curtlee, quick way to update the channels in myth is to use mythweb. much quicker and you can update all your channels in about 10 minutes. |
| [14:27:59] | sidh: | dewman: i can't find mythtv control center |
| [14:28:10] | sidh: | google tells me it runs only with mythbuntu |
| [14:28:21] | sidh: | i run squeeze (debian testing) |
| [14:28:31] | dewman: | sidh, opps my bad... =) |
| [14:31:07] | dewman: | sidh, so what you might have to do is to pull down the latest lirc manually, of course, I could be wrong on that to. =) |
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| [14:41:39] | curtlee: | dewman: Thanks for the mythweb idea I found it at /mythweb/settings/tv/channels |
| [14:42:25] | curtlee: | I am waiting for the qam channels to finish scanning |
| [14:42:41] | curtlee: | I deleted all channels and started over because I had a mess |
| [14:44:07] | curtlee: | wagnerrp: Were you saying before that the reason I could record 2 hd channels is because they were under the same main channel number? |
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| [14:45:04] | curtlee: | like if 100 had 2 channels, I could record them at the same time, but couldn't record from 100 and 101? |
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| [14:57:38] | bwallen: | I'm thinking of dropping my fios tv service and switching to OTA HD broadcasts. Do I have to worry about the broadcast flag, or will the OTA stations be sent unencrypted? |
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| [15:00:12] | skd5aner: | There is no such thing as the broadcast flag |
| [15:00:27] | skd5aner: | OTA, in the US, is sent unencrypted |
| [15:00:31] | skd5aner: | ATSC |
| [15:01:30] | skd5aner: | look at something like the HDHR, it'll work pretty good for OTA |
| [15:01:51] | skd5aner: | but in general, any well suppored ATSC tuner will work |
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| [15:03:00] | bwallen: | ok, thanks for your help |
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| [15:09:26] | bwallen: | skd5aner: This might be a stupid question, but if I have an HDTV antenna and a TV with a digital tuner, can I just hook the two together and expect it to work? |
| [15:11:02] | gregl: | bwallen, yes,Hook it up and scan for channels.. |
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| [15:11:27] | bwallen: | gregl: cool, thanks |
| [15:11:32] | gregl: | np |
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| [15:38:35] | wagnerrp: | curtlee: exactly |
| [15:38:51] | wagnerrp: | you can record up to five channels on a single 'multiplex' from a single digital tuner |
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| [15:39:36] | wagnerrp: | five is a somewhat arbitrary limit set in the code, based off the limitations of the PID filters on some tuner cards |
| [15:39:55] | sphery: | and scheduler performance |
| [15:40:17] | sphery: | i.e. scheduler performance changes are non-linear with number of multirec tuners enabled |
| [15:41:22] | wagnerrp: | ok, that too |
| [15:41:54] | ** wagnerrp just found a free monitor ** | |
| [15:42:27] | sphery: | are you dumpster diving? |
| [15:42:44] | wagnerrp: | no, it was just sitting on top of the closed lid |
| [15:42:53] | sphery: | heh |
| [15:42:58] | wagnerrp: | seems to work just fine |
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| [15:43:07] | wagnerrp: | i assume someone tossed it because its VGA only |
| [15:43:12] | sphery: | obviously an LCD, right--if it was in the garbage, it better not be a CRT |
| [15:43:21] | wagnerrp: | must have gotten a new computer that only has a DVI port |
| [15:43:27] | wagnerrp: | and didnt realize you could use an adapter |
| [15:43:37] | wagnerrp: | yeah, old CTX LCD |
| [15:43:41] | sphery: | cool |
| [15:43:49] | sphery: | CRTs in the garbage annoy me |
| [15:46:29] | wagnerrp: | ive been scrounging up old LCDs and mounting them on the sides of the equipment racks at work |
| [15:46:45] | wagnerrp: | so much easier to use than having to roll one of the CRT carts close enough to plug in |
| [15:47:07] | wagnerrp: | especially considering the walls are piled up with old computer boxes, and you cant get the carts through |
| [15:49:31] | wagnerrp: | probably half a mil worth of equipment back there, and we cant even buy a handful of cheap monitors and keyboards |
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| [15:57:58] | curtlee: | wagnerrp: Okay, I get what you were saying now. Sorry for arguing. I didn't realize that was the reason I could record 2 hd's at the same time. |
| [15:59:21] | justinh: | heh ebay seller has told me those USB sound devices couldn't have literally blown up & smoked |
| [15:59:44] | justinh: | oh well. £3.98 lost, and bad neg feedback for him |
| [15:59:58] | curtlee: | I appreciate your help. The only way I could get the HD channels to get the schedule data was to add another lineup on schedulesdirect. It wouldn't let me share the one. |
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| [16:04:17] | justinh: | smoking USB audio adapters made in China.. whatever next |
| [16:04:25] | curtlee: | justinh: DealExtreme.com is a good place to buy things like that + free shipping |
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| [16:05:16] | justinh: | yeah I know |
| [16:05:41] | justinh: | I'd rather they didn't crackle in my speakers & go PFTTTT though |
| [16:06:08] | justinh: | but since I managed to sort out my asound.conf file I don't need em anyway |
| [16:06:31] | curtlee: | I just used one with skype before they finally added pulse audio support |
| [16:09:43] | curtlee: | I just did all that work to add the HD channels and now ABC isn't playing anymore World Cup games |
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| [16:15:09] | liminal: | hello |
| [16:15:27] | curtlee: | hello |
| [16:15:32] | liminal: | i have a problem with my mythtv setup in ubuntu 10.04 32bit |
| [16:16:18] | curtlee: | what is the problem? |
| [16:17:10] | liminal: | when i select 'watch tv' it says 'error mythtv is using all inputs, but there are no active recordings' |
| [16:17:19] | liminal: | any idea what could be going on? |
| [16:18:03] | curtlee: | last time it did that to me, I deleted all the inputs and readded them. Then everything was fine. |
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| [16:18:32] | liminal: | im looking for the cause |
| [16:18:51] | liminal: | it keeps happening |
| [16:18:56] | curtlee: | oh |
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| [16:19:25] | liminal: | i thought recordings config was saved in the database? |
| [16:19:35] | liminal: | has mythtv lost the database? |
| [16:20:44] | curtlee: | it the database is gone, you would get an error message with you start mythfrontend |
| [16:20:50] | curtlee: | *if |
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| [16:20:53] | zplinux: | hi |
| [16:21:01] | curtlee: | *when |
| [16:21:08] | curtlee: | I just can't type today |
| [16:21:23] | curtlee: | hi, zplinux |
| [16:21:26] | zplinux: | sorry, I forgot the handle of the local mysql guru |
| [16:21:47] | zplinux: | my question is: where do I start at learning mysql? |
| [16:21:58] | zplinux: | I want to use a table to serve dhcp |
| [16:22:54] | curtlee: | sorry, that is beyond me. I can just create them and set permisions. |
| [16:23:19] | liminal: | so why can't mythtv find my recordings config? |
| [16:23:22] | justinh: | zplinux: you don't need a table |
| [16:23:27] | liminal: | If i restart it will be okay and find them |
| [16:23:38] | liminal: | which is even werider |
| [16:24:34] | curtlee: | liminal: restart mythtv-backend or reboot the computer? |
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| [16:27:25] | liminal: | the computer |
| [16:28:02] | curtlee: | after you reboot, everthing is fine. When do you have the problem again? |
| [16:29:07] | liminal: | mythtv crashes randomly all the time |
| [16:29:13] | liminal: | i have lots of problems |
| [16:29:40] | liminal: | im trying to look at the most obvious one, in the hope it will fix the others |
| [16:32:20] | curtlee: | something is really wrong if it is crashing all the time |
| [16:33:48] | curtlee: | will you miss anything if your purge it all and start over? |
| [16:34:27] | curtlee: | you could also do a partial database restore after starting over |
| [16:35:03] | curtlee: | my mythtvbackend is up for months without ever restarting it |
| [16:35:55] | ** J-e-f-f-A too... ** | |
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| [16:47:03] | liminal: | curtlee that wont work |
| [16:47:10] | liminal: | i will still have the same problem |
| [16:47:21] | liminal: | ive tried, tried and tried again |
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| [16:48:40] | curtlee: | do you have other problems on your computer? |
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| [16:58:32] | liminal: | all my applications crash randomly |
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| [16:58:52] | curtlee: | you may have a hardware problem |
| [16:58:59] | liminal: | webbrowsers, open office, semantic |
| [16:59:13] | curtlee: | the last time my computer was so unstable my ram was bad |
| [16:59:14] | liminal: | ive run a check on the disk it comes back healthy |
| [16:59:30] | liminal: | same goes for memory |
| [17:00:13] | curtlee: | have you ran the mem test on the ubuntu live cd? |
| [17:00:22] | liminal: | yes.. |
| [17:00:28] | liminal: | and changed the memory for new |
| [17:00:32] | liminal: | .. |
| [17:01:19] | curtlee: | well, it still sounds like hardware |
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| [17:01:40] | curtlee: | maybe a noise powersupply |
| [17:01:51] | curtlee: | it should never be that unstable |
| [17:02:06] | nichos: | hi all, im having trouble with mythdora and the pvr-2250. I've had it working before but had to re-install it. Now when i go to myth setup nothing comes up under DVB device number |
| [17:02:13] | nichos: | the module is loaded according to lsmod |
| [17:02:37] | curtlee: | liminal: sorry I don't have a better answer for you |
| [17:02:48] | kormoc: | nichos, dmesg shows it's found correctly? |
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| [17:06:50] | nichos: | kormoc i see card=<n> insmod option. Updating to the latest |
| [17:06:53] | nichos: | i bet that's it:) |
| [17:09:54] | liminal: | noisy power supply? |
| [17:10:11] | liminal: | possibly, it is a new psu.. how could i test? |
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| [17:19:18] | justinh: | nichos: see anything under /dev/dvb/ ? |
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| [17:19:37] | justinh: | and is the user you're running mythtv-setup as part of the 'video' group? |
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| [17:20:29] | nichos: | justinh – there is no /dev/dvb |
| [17:20:46] | justinh: | nichos: so then the drivers aren't working properly |
| [17:20:57] | justinh: | maybe you're missing firmware. dmesg will show you |
| [17:21:37] | nichos: | even it it was working? Is this firmware installed on the card that could be lost between installs? |
| [17:21:57] | justinh: | no, firmware on the local system which gets loaded when the drivers load |
| [17:22:26] | justinh: | firmware which gets pulled from /lib/firmware generally & squirted onto the tuner so it can work |
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| [17:32:53] | ** EvilGuru never ceases to be amazed how something as simple as tv_grab_uk_rt manages to break every-other-release ** | |
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| [17:40:23] | EvilGuru: | Fun: http://www.artificialworlds.net/freeguide/FAQ/DateManipError |
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| [17:51:56] | justinh: | every other release of what? |
| [17:52:48] | sphery: | EvilGuru: that's the dilemma of screen scrapers (or is tv_grab_uk_rt not a screen scraper?) |
| [17:53:09] | EvilGuru: | sphery: It grabs csv data from the radio times |
| [17:53:24] | justinh: | uk_rt downloads xml data directly from the radiotimes server |
| [17:53:30] | justinh: | not csv |
| [17:53:38] | EvilGuru: | Ah, is it XML data now, neat |
| [17:53:38] | sphery: | EvilGuru: cool.. so that's not the issue, then :) |
| [17:53:53] | justinh: | actually come to think about it, uk_rt was broken when I installed 10.04 |
| [17:53:57] | sphery: | assuming a consistent XML schema, that is |
| [17:54:01] | EvilGuru: | (Or was it always XML?) |
| [17:54:07] | justinh: | did my usual thing & pulled it from their nightly build |
| [17:54:22] | justinh: | EvilGuru: always was xml since they stopped allowing screen scraping |
| [17:54:34] | justinh: | so far, the only example of an epg data provider working with us |
| [17:54:39] | justinh: | in the world! |
| [17:54:59] | kormoc: | justinh, SD! :P |
| [17:55:02] | EvilGuru: | I was quite surprised when I found out that they 'supported' xmltv grabbing |
| [17:55:02] | justinh: | sphery: it's actual xmltv format IIRC |
| [17:55:21] | justinh: | kormoc: *free* *of* *charge* for personal use :) |
| [17:55:44] | EvilGuru: | Are they owned/run by the beeb? |
| [17:55:49] | justinh: | no |
| [17:55:52] | justinh: | BBC Worldwide |
| [17:55:57] | justinh: | not the beeb |
| [17:56:07] | justinh: | and they're thinking of selling radiotimes off |
| [17:56:12] | EvilGuru: | The bit which works to reduce my license fee :P |
| [17:56:29] | justinh: | pfft. I'd pay MORE license fee |
| [17:56:41] | justinh: | pay MORE to stop them doing strictly cum dancing |
| [17:57:01] | justinh: | pay MORE to stop them doing Eastenders |
| [17:57:03] | justinh: | etc :) |
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| [17:57:20] | EvilGuru: | I'd pay to have big brother stopped |
| [17:57:32] | justinh: | and I never thought I'd say this.. pay more to bring back Russell T Davies to the helm of Dr Who |
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| [17:57:50] | justinh: | EvilGuru: got that one covered. no more after this run :D |
| [17:58:00] | justinh: | oh and Glee. less of that please |
| [17:58:10] | justinh: | I heard it once. Man it was annoying |
| [17:58:18] | sphery: | "Ah, that's a shame. Okay, thanks for the info." |
| [17:58:20] | ** EvilGuru was under the mistaken impression that the 'last' one was the final one ** | |
| [17:58:22] | sphery: | why is that a shame? |
| [17:58:41] | sphery: | Why would a user care which DB we use--especially if it's embedded |
| [17:58:44] | EvilGuru: | justinh: Glee is what E4 is using to replace friends (which is finally going, whee!) |
| [17:58:54] | sphery: | That's like saying, "I hate that I have to install OSS to use MythTV" |
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| [17:59:09] | sphery: | oh, wait, users said that, too (not understanding the difference between an API and a program) |
| [17:59:11] | justinh: | sphery: becus flat files is all betterer |
| [17:59:17] | sphery: | true... |
| [17:59:23] | sphery: | 1731 lines... Something to shoot for. |
| [17:59:35] | justinh: | would they rather mythtv used MS SQL ? :-O |
| [17:59:38] | sphery: | (lines of code that is) |
| [17:59:49] | sphery: | I'm sure some would love to use SQL server |
| [17:59:59] | sphery: | and probably some would even want to use DB2 |
| [18:00:20] | EvilGuru: | And, naturally, someone would suggest BDB as the way forward |
| [18:00:23] | justinh: | CentOS users. Pfft ;) |
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| [18:00:54] | EvilGuru: | At which point the slashdot crowd would get wind of the dicussion and complain about the lack of NoSQL support |
| [18:00:59] | sphery: | EvilGuru: you mean Oracle Berkeley Database 11g? |
| [18:01:19] | sphery: | Amazing just how many DB's Oracle now owns |
| [18:01:29] | sphery: | er, DBMS's, even |
| [18:01:38] | EvilGuru: | *RDBMS |
| [18:01:53] | sphery: | yeah |
| [18:01:58] | justinh: | I don't get why some of myth's database is quite *so* relational |
| [18:02:03] | EvilGuru: | It is all about having social networking relationships between tables |
| [18:02:07] | sphery: | wonder how long until they buy out SQLite |
| [18:02:18] | justinh: | like is there any need to have video tables so spread out? |
| [18:02:45] | justinh: | how big would the db have to be before that starts being an advantage I wonder? |
| [18:02:52] | sphery: | wonder if we can consider them to also own Java DB (which is really Apache Derby, but with the name changed for inclusion in Java 6) |
| [18:03:16] | sphery: | granted, they don't control Derby, but they modify it to their desires when including it in Java 6 |
| [18:03:29] | EvilGuru: | My seek table went past 10,000,000 rows a month or so ago |
| [18:03:37] | sphery: | justinh: you'll love the changes we're making, now--which make it more relational :) |
| [18:03:48] | justinh: | grr |
| [18:03:48] | sphery: | justinh: http://misc.thirdcontact.com/MythTV/recordedfile_schema.png |
| [18:04:24] | sphery: | it's mainly to allow one-to-many relationships, etc. |
| [18:04:26] | justinh: | well there I can see the benefit |
| [18:04:36] | sphery: | yeah |
| [18:04:48] | sphery: | some of it is just not that important (like videocategories, etc.) |
| [18:05:06] | dustybin: | justinh: im testing out this ready built joggler image http://www.fuzzylogic.co.uk/index.html |
| [18:05:07] | sphery: | though it is nice from a standpoint of making changes quickly |
| [18:05:10] | justinh: | I noticed some weird stuff when I renamed a couple of categories the other day |
| [18:05:44] | sphery: | I still think of this every time dustybin mentions his joggler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joggling |
| [18:05:44] | justinh: | I dunno what caching goes on, but it took a restart of mythfrontend to see changes I made to video categories |
| [18:07:24] | justinh: | I think the only reason I'm razzed about why it's all relational is that it makes doing your own queries harder |
| [18:07:45] | justinh: | which in a way is gonna discourage people from hacking the database themselves |
| [18:08:57] | justinh: | so anyhoo... looks like much tighter integration of stuff is afoot. goodo :) |
| [18:09:20] | iamlindoro: | sphery: Funny, I think of well endowed ladies who left their sports bras at home |
| [18:09:33] | justinh: | be nice for mythvideo/watch recorded to be pretty much one & the same – with all the nice filtering & choice of views etc :) |
| [18:10:42] | sphery: | iamlindoro: there--now that I mentioned that I hope to work on embedding MySQL after 0.24, it's real and I'll have to actually do it |
| [18:10:55] | justinh: | iamlindoro: that'd be more like a jiggler would it not? ;-) |
| [18:10:57] | sphery: | and, yeah, those would joggle, too |
| [18:11:11] | iamlindoro: | I don't care what you call them, I like them |
| [18:11:14] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [18:11:18] | justinh: | norks ftw |
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| [18:11:48] | justinh: | joggler is such a stupid name anyway. no wonder they were never a hit with the public |
| [18:12:27] | dustybin: | justinh: the image works perfectly |
| [18:12:40] | justinh: | heh. in other news, Frank Sidebottom is dead |
| [18:12:43] | dustybin: | justinh: im on chrome using my finger |
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| [18:17:33] | Captain_Murdoch: | justinh, with the file table rework, the plan was to have recorded files visible in MythVideo and potentially the opposite (MythVideo files viewable in Watch Recordings somehow) |
| [18:17:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | recorded files optionally visible in MV that is.... |
| [18:18:44] | justinh: | just another storage group, innit :) |
| [18:19:16] | EvilGuru: | I have just gone from 0.21 => 0.23 and am setting up the backend. Where did the option to have virtual tuners (for multiplex recording) disappear to? |
| [18:19:25] | justinh: | EvilGuru: same place it ever was |
| [18:19:32] | justinh: | EvilGuru: in recording options for the tuner card |
| [18:20:14] | EvilGuru: | Ah, yes, there is it. I for some reason remembered it being after 'Next' |
| [18:21:39] | EvilGuru: | Hmm, that's odd. My backend log says that no valid capture cards are defined, but I just re-did them all (along with input sources etc) a minute ago |
| [18:28:52] | EvilGuru: | Okay. Problem solved. The actual backend was using a different database to what the backend set-up was. |
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| [18:32:50] | justinh: | different database whatnow? |
| [18:41:01] | EvilGuru: | justinh: My mysql db is not in localhost and while the frontend knows, the backend config in /etc was not updated |
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| [18:47:32] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, do you know offhand where Jamu pulls storage group info? |
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| [18:56:37] | justinh: | blah why aren't my jump points working? |
| [18:57:00] | justinh: | can't use the keybindings editor either – the xml is all screwed up. ooops |
| [18:58:28] | justinh: | ah so I thought I'll just delete the xml file for mythcontrols in the theme dir.. but there's none there. |
| [18:58:44] | dae_: | Hi, I have a HVR-1300 board capturing external audio and video from a STB connected to my MythTV backend. Using the IVTV driver I can successfully enable the hardware MPEG encoder on the card, and watching LiveTV is fine. However, the mythbackend process segfaults on channel change :-( Changing channel is done by calling an external script to transmit IR to the STB using lirc, so the HVR-1300 shouldn't even have to be bothered but st |
| [18:58:44] | dae_: | ill seems to be since the video stream apparently is the issue for the backend "DevRdB(/dev/video1) Error: Problem reading fd(43)" in the backend log. Any ideas? |
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| [19:02:29] | kormoc: | dae_, add a sleep to the end of the channel change script so that the card has time to settle down |
| [19:02:54] | sphery: | or I'll turn this car right around! |
| [19:04:16] | kormoc: | Hehe |
| [19:04:58] | dae_: | kormoc, I tried this but that doesn't seem to have any effect. Why would the card need to settle down btw? There is always video coming in on the Composite input even though the STB is in process of changing channels. |
| [19:05:23] | kormoc: | dae_, I know with my hdpvr it's the audio stream that it gets hung up on |
| [19:06:13] | dae_: | kormoc, Ok, I found those kinds of issues using google but my issue seems to be different though. |
| [19:07:46] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, do you know where exactly Jamu gets the storage group settings? |
| [19:08:11] | dae_: | I also tried recording an mpeg file (cat /dev/video1 > test.mpg) while executing my channel change script and the resulting mpeg file is fine (channel changes, no problem). So the backend process must be doing something with the device even though it is setup for external input (Composite) and external channel change script. |
| [19:08:34] | sphery: | kormoc: might be worth asking wagnerrp, too, as I'm assuming it's using some SG class in the Python bindings |
| [19:10:59] | ** kormoc nudges wagnerrp ** | |
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| [19:16:16] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [19:16:23] | wagnerrp: | good timing, just home |
| [19:16:39] | wagnerrp: | ditched early... weve been out of power at work for over two hours |
| [19:17:01] | natanojl: | kormoc: Have you had any chance to look at ticket 6993? I added an updated patch a few days ago by the way |
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| [19:18:24] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: http://mythtv.org/wiki/Python_bindings#getSto . . . me.3DNone.29 |
| [19:18:26] | kormoc: | natanojl, yeah, I'm actually working on re-doing how we do skins/layouts and hopefully that'll make it much cleaner to do your feature, which is a pretty nice one |
| [19:20:28] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: are you looking to use the bindings? or re-implement the code in php/perl? |
| [19:21:01] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, http://pastebin.ca/1887947 |
| [19:21:18] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, that's been freaking me out as I can't figure out where it's getting those paths |
| [19:22:01] | natanojl: | kormoc: Ah, cool. Let me now if/when you want me to update the patch |
| [19:22:02] | wagnerrp: | its probably been getting those from the old-style folders |
| [19:22:13] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, hrm? |
| [19:22:13] | wagnerrp: | where their location was stored as values in the settings table |
| [19:22:17] | kormoc: | ahh! |
| [19:22:39] | kormoc: | that'd be it |
| [19:22:42] | wagnerrp: | specifically in the values episodeimagedir, fanartdir, posterdir.... |
| [19:23:08] | wagnerrp: | so if youre going to continue using SGs only in mythweb, just ignore them |
| [19:23:46] | kormoc: | well it's more Jamu's crapping out |
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| [19:27:13] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, while you're around, any thoughts on Exception SystemError: 'error return without exception set' in <bound method BEConnection.__del__ of <MythTV.MythBase.BEConnection object at 0x7f2d22912c90>> ignored ? |
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| [19:28:39] | ** wagnerrp sticks fingers in ears and starts singing ** | |
| [19:28:49] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [19:28:54] | kormoc: | if it's a non-issue that's fine |
| [19:29:02] | kormoc: | it's just that it looks like it's bailing early cause of it? |
| [19:29:05] | wagnerrp: | well its sortof an issue |
| [19:29:10] | wagnerrp: | the program is closing |
| [19:29:28] | wagnerrp: | and somehow, for some reason, the connection class got in a state i did not expect |
| [19:29:36] | wagnerrp: | which causes its destructor to throw an error |
| [19:29:52] | wagnerrp: | but since python is closing things up, it just ignores it and refuses to give me a backtrace |
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| [19:30:10] | wagnerrp: | however that code that was throwing the error may very well no longer exist in trunk |
| [19:30:15] | kormoc: | this is trunk |
| [19:30:22] | wagnerrp: | thats not trunk |
| [19:30:26] | EvilGuru: | Hmm. I have a 9600GT under 10.04 (Ubuntu) but VDPAU does not seem to work. Any suggestions for debugging? |
| [19:30:39] | wagnerrp: | it may have been trunk a couple days ago |
| [19:30:44] | wagnerrp: | but now its just some old snapshot |
| [19:30:46] | kormoc: | yeah, it's a few days old |
| [19:31:00] | wagnerrp: | MythTV.MythBase no longer exists |
| [19:31:08] | kormoc: | Ahh, I can update and see how she goes |
| [19:31:10] | wagnerrp: | specifically that file is now in MythTV.connections |
| [19:31:20] | wagnerrp: | can you reliably make it do that? |
| [19:31:29] | kormoc: | yes |
| [19:31:42] | kormoc: | 100% reproducible |
| [19:31:50] | wagnerrp: | thats the other thing, i could never figure out a process to make that happen in order to start trying to figure out whats causing it |
| [19:32:04] | kormoc: | I'm on 25100 currently |
| [19:32:23] | wagnerrp: | anything past 25147 |
| [19:32:30] | kormoc: | updating to 25150 now |
| [19:32:33] | kormoc: | will let you know |
| [19:32:36] | wagnerrp: | and if you want, you can just 'svn up' the bindings folder |
| [19:32:41] | wagnerrp: | and then 'python setup.py install' |
| [19:32:53] | wagnerrp: | and make sure to copy in the new version of jamu.py as well |
| [19:33:04] | ** dustybin compiles .23 on joggler ** | |
| [19:33:11] | wagnerrp: | on the joggler? |
| [19:33:13] | wagnerrp: | ouch |
| [19:33:40] | dustybin: | i have found a excellent ubuntu image, ive installed easystroke |
| [19:33:43] | kormoc: | on the joggler? |
| [19:33:44] | justinh: | watch out for OOM |
| [19:33:48] | dustybin: | now compiling mythtv .23 |
| [19:33:53] | justinh: | muhahahaha. MUHAHAHAHAHA |
| [19:34:07] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: the 'joggler' is a little single core Atom tablet |
| [19:34:12] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [19:34:15] | justinh: | dual core actually |
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| [19:34:33] | wagnerrp: | with a plastic heatsink |
| [19:34:38] | dustybin: | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5505251/frontend.JPG |
| [19:34:43] | kormoc: | that sounds worse then useless |
| [19:34:46] | justinh: | only 512MB, and insufficient heatsinking for high CPU loads |
| [19:34:55] | justinh: | kormoc: nah, as a web browsy thingy it's fab |
| [19:35:07] | wagnerrp: | hes referring to the heatsink |
| [19:35:07] | nichos: | hi all, im having problems with my pvr-2550 module. I re-installed mythbuntu and I'm unable to get the adapter to show up in mythsetup. Checking dmesg it says i need to add card=3 to insmod |
| [19:35:11] | dustybin: | justinh: im going to use it to control X10 |
| [19:35:12] | kormoc: | Well, I mean the plastic heatsink, yeah |
| [19:35:18] | justinh: | comes with a bunch of quite handy apps – and squeezeplayer on it absolutely rocks |
| [19:35:30] | nichos: | the problem is when i run insmod i says "can't read saa7164 no such file or dir" |
| [19:35:49] | kormoc: | nichos, use modprobe |
| [19:36:04] | nichos: | kormoc i need to add card=3 as an option |
| [19:36:13] | kormoc: | nichos, it will still work fine with modprobe |
| [19:36:15] | dustybin: | my joggler will be 1) radio / alarm clock 2) media player 3) web browser |
| [19:36:20] | dustybin: | 4) x10 controller |
| [19:36:22] | kormoc: | modprobe saa7164 card=3 |
| [19:36:32] | kormoc: | or insmod /path/to/saa7164.ko card=3 |
| [19:36:39] | kormoc: | they're equivalent commands |
| [19:37:47] | nichos: | excellent! Now, will that take place at every boot? |
| [19:37:58] | kormoc: | nope |
| [19:38:06] | kormoc: | you'll have to read the distro docs on how they do that |
| [19:38:32] | nichos: | gotcha |
| [19:38:46] | nichos: | any idea why i have to do this when before I didnt? Im using the same mythbuntu CD |
| [19:39:17] | nichos: | the firmware should stick between re-installs, right? |
| [19:39:41] | kormoc: | firmware is loaded at every boot, so no |
| [19:39:47] | kormoc: | but I don't know why it'd be different this time |
| [19:39:53] | nichos: | oh, i thought it was "Written" to the card |
| [19:40:16] | kormoc: | depends on the card/how they engineered it |
| [19:41:40] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: if youre still getting that error post update, could you apply http://www.wagnerrp.com/files/connections.py.patch and try again? |
| [19:41:51] | kormoc: | WillDo |
| [19:42:00] | wagnerrp: | it should manually force the exception to print, so i can actually see what its doing |
| [19:42:05] | wagnerrp: | thanks |
| [19:47:26] | justinh: | ahh I'd not updated the jumppoints table. stupid |
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| [19:48:14] | justinh: | email from ebay supplier re the usb sound thing... they said their supplier has has a 'hardware compatibility problem'. yeah I'll say |
| [19:51:30] | Beirdo: | so... for all of you that are (not likely) on the edge of your seats.. I expect to have my mythweather-related theme updates finished tonight |
| [19:51:35] | Beirdo: | just Terra left to go |
| [19:51:44] | Beirdo: | of the ones that are in SVN |
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| [19:51:58] | antonella_bella: | hi guys |
| [19:52:13] | antonella_bella: | i'm now setting up for 1st time |
| [19:52:14] | ** justinh looks fwd to being able to see weather forecasts read in Klingon units :D ** | |
| [19:52:25] | antonella_bella: | hi justinh |
| [19:52:32] | Beirdo: | justinh: heh, no units change... that's later, if at all |
| [19:52:44] | Beirdo: | trying to get it TOS compliant first :) |
| [19:54:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: btw – looks like you're doing lots of great work on MythWeather... ;-) Thanks! |
| [19:55:04] | Beirdo: | no problem... it's needed love for a while now |
| [19:55:15] | Beirdo: | and it still needs a boot to the head |
| [19:55:17] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [19:55:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yep... ;-) |
| [19:56:32] | Beirdo: | still need to fix the build requirements, etc to be more sane too |
| [19:56:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | If anyone's looking for a PCI VDPAU capable card, I was just at Micro Center, and they've got a 8400GS 512MB for $64.99 — not exactly 'cheap', but it's the only non-PCIe card that I've seen in a LONG time... ;-) |
| [19:57:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: Understood. |
| [19:57:25] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:57:27] | wagnerrp: | certainly not cheap |
| [19:57:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | There's LOTS of great working going on for Myth now... that's very, very encouraging... ;-) |
| [19:57:31] | wagnerrp: | i think mine was $40 |
| [19:57:43] | Beirdo: | I just bought a 9500GT PCI off Amazon for a bit more than that, but not much |
| [19:58:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: PCI or PCIe ? |
| [19:58:07] | Beirdo: | it shipped before I went to sleep... at 2am |
| [19:58:10] | Beirdo: | PCI |
| [19:58:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | wow. ;-) |
| [19:58:34] | Beirdo: | if it isn't, I will be extremely pissed as both Newegg and Amazon had it listed as PCI |
| [19:58:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | I think all the systems in my house are PCIe... ;-) Gee, remember when AGP was the latest craze?!? ;-) |
| [19:58:57] | Beirdo: | heh, I remember when VESA cards were the latest craze |
| [19:59:02] | Beirdo: | I skipped that one |
| [19:59:12] | high-rez: | VESA Local Bus ? |
| [19:59:17] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [19:59:19] | high-rez: | With extra connector on the end of the ultra long card. |
| [19:59:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | Beirdo: ^^ yeah, that's true too. ;-) |
| [19:59:39] | ** J-e-f-f-A had an Amiga in those days... ;-) ** | |
| [19:59:45] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [19:59:53] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [20:00:37] | dustybin: | i think i might try this on my joggler instead of compiling .23 from scratch |
| [20:00:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | Humm... looking at Micro Center's page, seems they've got a passively cooled Sparkle PCI 8400GS 512 for $49.99... even low-profile... |
| [20:00:40] | justinh: | antonella_bella: so.. setting mythtv up for the first time. sit down with the docs for your distro's mythtv packages, have a read & work through one step at a time. any questions about that, ask here. nobody's gonna be willing to walk you through every last step :) |
| [20:00:40] | dustybin: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds |
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| [20:01:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | dustybin: Hey, how'd you get one of those?!? ;-) I'd <3 one of those... |
| [20:01:26] | dustybin: | i got mine on ebay |
| [20:01:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | How much? |
| [20:01:34] | Beirdo: | e-crap |
| [20:01:38] | Beirdo: | err |
| [20:01:45] | dustybin: | 80 pounds |
| [20:01:54] | dustybin: | i missed the O2 offer |
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| [20:02:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yikes – $209.99 !!! ($239.00 buy-it-now)... |
| [20:03:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | ah, there's another one for 'just' $118.39 ... still more than I'd want to pay. ;-) |
| [20:04:05] | high-rez: | justinh: That's not quite true. Last week when some dude was asking all sorts of questions here, and everyone kept telling him to read the docs – I walked him through every last step ;) |
| [20:04:12] | high-rez: | I |
| [20:04:23] | high-rez: | VNC'd into his machine and pushed them buttons :-) |
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| [20:04:45] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v gbee | |
| [20:05:05] | high-rez: | So sometimes, on a really slow day with enough coffee and boredom, a person might be able to get someone to walk them through every last step :D |
| [20:05:54] | justinh: | high-rez: more fool you |
| [20:05:58] | kormoc: | high-rez, you can't count on having a slave available |
| [20:07:03] | justinh: | one of the advantages of some things being hard enough to need you to RTFM is that when you do it yourself you know what to do next time |
| [20:07:51] | high-rez: | Sometimes, just sometimes, there's ambiguity – and having someone with experience find the /one thing/ you were doing wrong that might have appeared right can make it a whole lot eqasier. |
| [20:08:31] | justinh: | fine. be a nurse maid if you want :) |
| [20:08:56] | ** Beirdo pokes justinh with an RTFM trout ** | |
| [20:08:58] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:09:17] | high-rez: | Last week is was the dude (coolblue). He had everything setup right, but he was doing an import of channels.conf – which apparently doesn't really work all that well. Don't get me wrong – debugging these types of things with a bunch of log files and "i did it right, trust me" is damned near impossible. |
| [20:09:45] | ** sphery decides to shut down his MythTV backends and swap out the HS/Fans for better/quieter fans. ** | |
| [20:10:03] | sphery: | so the race is on... must finish before primetime |
| [20:10:05] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [20:10:10] | Beirdo: | you can do it! |
| [20:10:27] | justinh: | if people reported scanning issues properly we'd have nobody needing to use steenkin channels.conf files |
| [20:10:36] | sphery: | 4 hours is /way/ more time than I need |
| [20:10:45] | sphery: | until, of course, I say, "4 hours is /way/ more time than I need" |
| [20:11:01] | Beirdo: | how close is Fry's/local computer store of choice? |
| [20:11:36] | sphery: | heh, it's about a 30min drive each way to the nearest Best Buy--and it's a Best Buy |
| [20:11:46] | high-rez: | justinh: I don't even know how one creates a channels.conf. At the end of the day, his dtv_multiplex table was all b0rked. I just wiped, found a good transponder, and he was off... |
| [20:11:52] | Beirdo: | ick. Let's hope you don't need emergency parts then |
| [20:11:55] | sphery: | Fry's needs to come to FL |
| [20:12:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | Fry's needs to come to New England!!!! |
| [20:12:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | ;-) |
| [20:12:17] | wagnerrp: | ive got a microcenter about 20–30min away, depending on who drives |
| [20:12:23] | sphery: | yeah, worst case scenario, I just pull some not-quite-as-critical systems, but... |
| [20:12:26] | Beirdo: | Fry's needs to come into Seattle. I don't feel like going to Renton |
| [20:12:34] | wagnerrp: | but retail is just so much more expensive than online |
| [20:12:38] | wagnerrp: | nevermind the gas |
| [20:12:41] | justinh: | pity you guys when all you have is the big sheds |
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| [20:14:11] | Beirdo: | I really miss College & Spadina |
| [20:14:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: I've got a Micro Center here too – ~20 miles from my house... the next closest one is in Ohio!!!! |
| [20:14:35] | Beirdo: | sooo many computer stores next door to each other... |
| [20:14:55] | dustybin: | imagine turning my lights on and off with my finger! how cool would that be?! |
| [20:15:13] | Beirdo: | umm, I already do that with a light switch |
| [20:15:21] | Beirdo: | not much novelty to that in the last 100 years |
| [20:15:22] | justinh: | we have big sheds here like PC World.. they're expensive & have little choice |
| [20:15:31] | wagnerrp: | J-e-f-f-A: hey, thats my microcenter |
| [20:15:40] | justinh: | but then the indies which are basically shop fronted warehouses.. they're cheaper than mail order |
| [20:16:00] | wagnerrp: | justinh: thats the one redeeming feature about things like microcenter and frys, they have a fairly good selection |
| [20:16:05] | Beirdo: | the "fall off the truck" stores :) |
| [20:16:19] | wagnerrp: | you may not find exactly what youre looking for, but youll find something that will work good enough |
| [20:16:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: Oh yeah, I forgot you're up there... for some reason I was thinking you were out there near the rest of the crew in seattle... ;-) |
| [20:16:35] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:16:46] | justinh: | Beirdo: nah, I think most of them were originally rooted in the line of importing 'fancy goods' & they just applied their import knowledge & contacts to get PC gear |
| [20:16:56] | gbee: | justinh: my local PC world no longer sells PCs, popped in there the other week and 50% of the store was given over to TVs etc |
| [20:17:02] | justinh: | heheh |
| [20:18:00] | justinh: | it's fun to go there when they have a good sale on.. of course the thing you go to buy doesn't come with a vital cable (which being a geek you have loads of at home or know where to get one cheap) – but they try to flog you a USB cable or something at £19.99 |
| [20:18:47] | gbee: | no exaggeration either, didn't see one laptop/PC, some peripherals and components but even those seemed to take up less than 30% of the floor space |
| [20:18:55] | justinh: | if PC World have something the local sheds carry at about the same price I always go to PC World because of their returns policy |
| [20:19:28] | justinh: | oh and PC World staff *really* don't like being told off for calling you 'mate'. I enjoy that |
| [20:19:30] | gbee: | I don't think I'd really taken it in but they got rid of their books section a while ago |
| [20:20:04] | gbee: | I went in for air duster, but left empty handed – £9 a can ... pfft |
| [20:20:09] | justinh: | they also don't like it when you overhear a salesperson trying to con a customer & you step in |
| [20:20:13] | justinh: | whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??! |
| [20:20:41] | justinh: | not sure even helium costs that much by volume |
| [20:20:44] | gbee: | went into Staples next door ... £4, still pricey (£2 a can on Ebay) |
| [20:20:54] | justinh: | £2 plus £1 P&P |
| [20:21:44] | gbee: | yeah, but you can get 2x, 4x bundles to spread the P&P |
| [20:22:10] | gbee: | I don't use air duster that much, on principle I object to paying for cans of air ... |
| [20:22:41] | justinh: | heh |
| [20:23:32] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Should mention to the debian packages guy that by forcing python < 2.6, they are literally forcing all the python scripts not to work |
| [20:23:50] | iamlindoro: | kormoc: I'm afraid I just don't know, I assumed he was using somehting in the bindings and the config files have overrides too |
| [20:24:04] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: they should all work with 2.5 shouldnt they? |
| [20:24:19] | iamlindoro: | nope, we have several that require 2.6 |
| [20:24:29] | iamlindoro: | at least, IIRC |
| [20:24:46] | iamlindoro: | At least one of the MNV grabbers, and I think modern iterations of the MythVideo scripts too |
| [20:25:11] | wagnerrp: | ive got a lot of crap in the bindings to allow them to work with 2.5, wouldnt mind dropping all of that |
| [20:25:59] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux would know for sure, I may just be misremembering |
| [20:26:40] | wagnerrp: | well its already in there for now and its not hurting anything |
| [20:26:51] | wagnerrp: | may be something to consider when 2.7 gets released in a few months |
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| [20:31:53] | RDV_Linux: | iamlindoro: Vimeo required python 2.6 because of the need for AUTH, but I do not think any of the grabbers required anything higher than python 2.5 |
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| [20:33:45] | Beirdo: | sphery: for the cut editor... can we have a "zoom" feature for tweaking the cuts that are too close together? |
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| [20:34:23] | Beirdo: | no idea how to implement it though :) |
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| [20:34:40] | wagnerrp: | perhaps something that auto-zooms when you start into the smaller skip groups |
| [20:34:57] | wagnerrp: | like the 1s skip would only get a 10m bar |
| [20:35:09] | wagnerrp: | one frame would drop you to 2m |
| [20:35:45] | Beirdo: | yeah, something like that |
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| [20:36:13] | Beirdo: | I know in the past I had cutpoints too close together and I always ended up selecting the wrong ones and screwing it up |
| [20:36:43] | sphery: | Beirdo: awesome idea--though I may leave that one for someone else ;) |
| [20:37:09] | Beirdo: | if only I knew how to implement it well :) |
| [20:37:09] | sphery: | I really think it could benefit from a UI guy's at least designing it |
| [20:37:14] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [20:38:02] | Beirdo: | certainly would get us a better result |
| [20:39:03] | sphery: | heh, true--and I won't even be offended by your saying that I'm not qualified to do it :) |
| [20:39:21] | Beirdo: | well, I was thinking of myself being unqualified |
| [20:39:26] | Beirdo: | but if the shoe fits :) |
| [20:39:42] | sphery: | it does |
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| [20:40:01] | wagnerrp: | for what its worth, i stumbled my way through the initial bindings rewrite |
| [20:40:02] | Beirdo: | I'm surprised by how easily tweaking themes came to me |
| [20:40:20] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yeah, I saw the 10-page commit message. :) Congrats. |
| [20:40:51] | wagnerrp: | i really hate leaving stuff like that sit on my computer |
| [20:41:00] | Beirdo: | i wish we had a standalone theme viewer or something |
| [20:41:06] | Beirdo: | heck for all I know we do |
| [20:41:21] | wagnerrp: | i find if i let things sit like that, i tend to lose interest in it |
| [20:41:42] | Beirdo: | last night was... tweak XML, save in vi... hit esc and enter on the frontend, wait an ungodly length of time for mythweather to load... |
| [20:41:49] | Beirdo: | lather, rinse, repeat |
| [20:42:15] | Beirdo: | I need to see how to speed that load up... significantly |
| [20:42:41] | sphery: | heh, that would be cool |
| [20:42:44] | Beirdo: | and maybe have a "loading....." dialog |
| [20:43:23] | sphery: | and you need to work on getting mythweather to be just another notification scroller inside mythfrontend that can run whenever (and that allows you to jump to "detail" screens) |
| [20:43:27] | sphery: | :) |
| [20:43:39] | Beirdo: | hmm? |
| [20:43:43] | sphery: | Oh, and rewrite it all in Python. I demand it! That's how FOSS works. |
| [20:43:47] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:44:04] | Beirdo: | the notification stuff, you'll have to walk me through it sometime |
| [20:44:12] | Beirdo: | and as for Python... :) |
| [20:44:15] | sphery: | the notification scroller idea that gbee had--like mythnotify/mythtvosd but works everywhere in mythfrontend (during playback or normal UI) |
| [20:44:23] | Beirdo: | you wanna write some scrapers in .py, that's fine |
| [20:44:37] | sphery: | we don't yet have the capability, so this was my way of encouraging you to add the capability :) |
| [20:44:40] | Beirdo: | I already plan on fixing some crappy perl |
| [20:45:01] | sphery: | the Python comment was a reference to some user demanding that kormoc rewrite MythWeb in Python |
| [20:45:07] | Beirdo: | like where they map icons by searching each one from the same file... |
| [20:45:11] | Beirdo: | yeah, I know :0 |
| [20:45:21] | sphery: | just making sure--as it was a ref to an old idea |
| [20:45:22] | Beirdo: | and they open, search, close... inside a loop |
| [20:45:27] | Beirdo: | reeeetarded |
| [20:45:43] | sphery: | anyway, I've now wasted 45min of my time to replace HS/Fans... Gotta do that!\ |
| [20:45:44] | Beirdo: | nah that's not fair to those who truly are retarded |
| [20:46:10] | sphery: | (the worst is cleaning off the old thermal paste) |
| [20:46:10] | Beirdo: | go break your backends :) |
| [20:46:13] | sphery: | heh |
| [20:46:16] | Beirdo: | yeah, I know |
| [20:46:21] | Beirdo: | yuckky |
| [20:47:27] | Beirdo: | BTW, I claimed mythweather in trac... the bugs should automagically go to me |
| [20:48:34] | gbee: | the notification scroller is one of those extremely simple to implement ideas that I've talked about for years, but still haven't given over an hour of my time to write |
| [20:49:04] | gbee: | I'd say you should probably ignore me in future when I talk about doing these things |
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| [20:50:26] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [20:50:34] | Beirdo: | or feed you beer so you do it? |
| [20:51:26] | gbee: | beer is good |
| [20:51:39] | Beirdo: | too bad you are thousands of miles away |
| [20:51:47] | Beirdo: | have a virtual beer :) |
| [20:52:03] | wagnerrp: | just means it will be expensive beer |
| [20:54:51] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [20:55:20] | ** Beirdo wanders off to score some caffeine ** | |
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| [21:01:09] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, 25150 does not trigger it anymore |
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| [21:02:53] | wagnerrp: | im not satisfied that its actually fixed, since i dont really know what was actually causing it |
| [21:03:00] | wagnerrp: | but not much i can do about it |
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| [21:03:39] | Golffies: | Hi guys, |
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| [21:12:21] | ** Beirdo eyes MythGallery. ** | |
| [21:15:58] | ** dustybin eyes .23 still compiling on joggler ** | |
| [21:16:16] | wagnerrp: | im half surprised the thing hasnt just up and crashed |
| [21:18:58] | dustybin: | can a mythtv frontend execute a script of your choice on the backend box? |
| [21:19:09] | wagnerrp: | through the event system, yes |
| [21:19:18] | dustybin: | i want my mythtv frontend to execute my X10 scripts to turn lights on and off etc |
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| [21:19:28] | wagnerrp: | see event system |
| [21:19:28] | dustybin: | the x10 server is on my backend |
| [21:19:34] | dustybin: | ace :D |
| [21:19:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | dustybin: heyu ? |
| [21:19:50] | dustybin: | yes! |
| [21:19:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | ;-) me too. |
| [21:19:59] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_System_Events |
| [21:20:10] | dustybin: | i had a combined box before, but now i have seperate boxes for backend and frontend |
| [21:20:16] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: thanks :D |
| [21:20:25] | wagnerrp: | went in a good 2k commits ago |
| [21:20:32] | dustybin: | :o |
| [21:21:06] | dustybin: | J-e-f-f-A: do you use system events to control X10 ? |
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| [21:28:27] | antonella_bella: | hi guys! |
| [21:28:45] | antonella_bella: | how to fix the frontend crash when a dvd is insterted? |
| [21:29:09] | Beirdo: | <smartalec>Stop inserting DVDs</smartalec> |
| [21:29:26] | antonella_bella: | wow! |
| [21:29:38] | Beirdo: | I'm sure there's a better answer :) |
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| [21:29:49] | antonella_bella: | by the way it's a bug |
| [21:30:00] | antonella_bella: | i'm on mythtv |
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| [21:30:11] | Beirdo: | it likely has been fixed already... what version? |
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| [21:30:21] | antonella_bella: | but i know the last mythbuntu has fixed |
| [21:30:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | dustybin: No, not currently. |
| [21:30:31] | antonella_bella: | mythtv 0.23 |
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| [21:31:01] | antonella_bella: | just installed |
| [21:31:12] | antonella_bella: | and configured |
| [21:31:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | dustybin: To be honest, i have half a dozen motion sensors besides my light modules, and had mostly used it to log motion in my house for the last couple of years to catch my son ditching school... ;-) |
| [21:31:18] | wagnerrp: | just installed... did you update mythtv? |
| [21:31:21] | Beirdo: | stock mythbuntu? |
| [21:31:31] | dustybin: | J-e-f-f-A: haha |
| [21:31:31] | wagnerrp: | mythbuntu installs with some version 400 revisions before release |
| [21:31:33] | antonella_bella: | i'm not sure |
| [21:31:39] | gbee: | be aware that Mythbuntu 9.10 shipped with a release candidate not the final release or -fixes |
| [21:31:54] | antonella_bella: | update repo for mythtv? |
| [21:32:02] | ** Beirdo wants to kick some mythbuntu people for not fixing that properly ** | |
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| [21:32:41] | gbee: | so you need to grab the latest packages – http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds |
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| [21:33:05] | antonella_bella: | i'm not on mythbuntu |
| [21:33:11] | antonella_bella: | i'm on mythtv... |
| [21:33:12] | sphery: | Beirdo: So, I booted the master backend with new HS/Fan, and was impressed--the new fan was so quiet, I couldn't even tell there was a fan running. Then, I thought, "The new fan is so quiet, I can't even tell if there's a fan running." So I took off the side of the case and realized that the fan was /not/ running. Moral of the story--always verify that the fan can spin freely before powering the system on. Seems the metal "blade guard" got a bit ... |
| [21:33:18] | sphery: | ... bent in shipping. After powering down (which too way too long for my tastes--due to the MBE DB backup), I bent it back to the right shape. Now it's quiet, but not "too quiet." :) |
| [21:33:26] | wagnerrp: | sphery: what fan |
| [21:33:31] | sphery: | CPU fan |
| [21:33:36] | gbee: | antonella_bella: I'd read the FAQ on that page first |
| [21:33:44] | sphery: | kind of an important one |
| [21:33:44] | Beirdo: | hehe, nice one, sphery |
| [21:33:54] | antonella_bella: | gbee where? |
| [21:33:56] | wagnerrp: | by that i mean, what aftermarket cooler did you get |
| [21:34:07] | gbee: | antonella_bella: [22:32:41] <gbee> so you need to grab the latest packages – http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds |
| [21:35:01] | Golffies: | I generated a channels.conf file with 'scan', listing FTA channels brodcasted by Hotbird-13.0E. When importing the file with myth-setup ("input connections" menu), I get the following error: "Failed to find any channels". How to solve it ? |
| [21:35:09] | gbee: | Beirdo: I blame Ubuntu itself for not having a simple update procedure, instead requiring the mythbuntu guys to maintain a private repo just to push updated packages |
| [21:35:35] | gbee: | Golffies: have you tried scanning without channels.conf? |
| [21:36:43] | sphery: | Oh, it's a not-great Rosewill one for Socket A CPUs. Mine--which are all 2004 vintage--have started failing. Last failure, it was more efficient to buy 3 and pay shipping once than buy 1 (since Socket A HS/Fans are hard to find, they've gotten expensive). I'm rearranging hardware tomorrow (with my distro upgrade and upgrade to MythTV 0.23-fixes) and the current SBE will become a computer in an area that requires a much quieter fan, so I figured ... |
| [21:36:48] | sphery: | ... I'd just replace these before they fail., |
| [21:36:50] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ^^^ |
| [21:37:04] | antonella_bella: | gbee it's a bit hard 4 me... |
| [21:37:06] | Beirdo: | gbee: yeah.. fair enough. |
| [21:37:17] | sphery: | Golffies: meaning, have you tried scanning with mythtv-setup's channel scanner, which is designed to work with MythTV :) |
| [21:38:33] | Golffies: | You mean without 'scan'; directly from myth-setup GUI ? Yes, it failed, even trying many transponder frequencies. That's why I came to 'scan'. |
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| [21:39:12] | Beirdo: | ugh |
| [21:39:35] | Beirdo: | people on -users complaing that mythweb uses fully qualified URLS |
| [21:40:00] | Beirdo: | works just fine for me with proxying. Bet they are incompetent and forgot ProxyPassReverse |
| [21:40:25] | AndyCap: | or [R] ? |
| [21:40:43] | Beirdo: | well, yeah, depends on how they implement |
| [21:40:57] | Beirdo: | I do mine with ProxyPass and ProxyPassReverse |
| [21:41:01] | Beirdo: | works just fine |
| [21:42:56] | Beirdo: | oh wait, that wasn't -users |
| [21:42:58] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [21:43:03] | keld: | Is there a way to reduce font size in menus? I tried a number of things... |
| [21:43:03] | dustybin: | you take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.. |
| [21:43:09] | antonella_bella: | can anybody help me fix the frontend crash on dvd mount bug?? |
| [21:43:24] | Beirdo: | antonella_bella: gbee already did |
| [21:44:29] | antonella_bella: | Beirdo I know... i read faq ad he suggested, but... it's hard for me... |
| [21:46:16] | antonella_bella: | it's incredible a bug like this... |
| [21:46:43] | Beirdo: | where exactly did you get mythtv from? |
| [21:46:48] | Golffies: | gbee, sphery: is the syntax of my channels.conf which would be wrong ? Here is a sample : |
| [21:46:50] | Golffies: | TV5MONDE EUROPE:11137:h:0:27500:3522:3642:7322 |
| [21:46:50] | Golffies: | ARTE:11623:v:0:27500:223:233:10703 |
| [21:46:50] | Golffies: | RTL 102.5 TV:11623:v:0:27500:224:244:10704 |
| [21:46:50] | Golffies: | BFM TV:11681:h:0:27500:178:156:220 |
| [21:46:50] | Golffies: | TV8 Mt Blanc:12539:h:0:27500:5126:5127:8878 |
| [21:46:51] | Golffies: | DIRECT 8:12539:h:0:27500:5129:5130:8877 |
| [21:46:53] | Golffies: | CANAL+:10892:h:0:27500:160:80:4801 |
| [21:46:55] | Golffies: | CANAL+ FILM:10892:h:0:27500:161:84:4802 |
| [21:46:57] | Golffies: | CANAL+ SPORT:10892:h:0:27500:168:112:4809 |
| [21:47:00] | sphery: | antonella_bella: are you sure that it's not already fixed? |
| [21:47:00] | Golffies: | POLONIA1:10796:v:0:27500:165:100:15706 |
| [21:47:01] | Golffies: | TV POLONIA:11488:h:0:27500:160:80:5101 |
| [21:47:01] | Beirdo: | !trout Golffies pasting |
| [21:47:01] | ** MythLogBot slaps Golffies with a pasting trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [21:47:03] | Golffies: | TVP Kultura:11488:h:0:27500:172:128:5113 |
| [21:47:03] | antonella_bella: | Beirdo from synaptic |
| [21:47:05] | Golffies: | TELE5:10796:v:0:27500:164:96:15705 |
| [21:47:09] | Golffies: | PULS:11488:h:0:27500:171:124:5112 |
| [21:47:11] | Golffies: | ITV:11488:h:0:27500:168:112:5109 |
| [21:47:13] | Golffies: | TVN Warszawa:11508:v:0:27500:512:650:15801 |
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| [21:47:33] | Beirdo: | Golffies: do that again, you'll get kicked. Please use pastebins |
| [21:47:34] | antonella_bella: | Beirdo do you have repos for to install and update? |
| [21:47:49] | Beirdo: | antonella_bella: read the link gbee sent |
| [21:48:18] | antonella_bella: | Beirdo I did, but it seems that autobuilds have no effect... |
| [21:48:46] | Beirdo: | ummm, they do, I'm sure |
| [21:48:48] | gbee: | mythfrontend --version |
| [21:49:10] | antonella_bella: | Beirdo it finds no updates available |
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| [21:49:54] | antonella_bella: | gbee MythTV Version : 24158 |
| [21:50:36] | wagnerrp: | there are updates |
| [21:50:42] | wagnerrp: | that version is several months old |
| [21:50:43] | sphery: | antonella_bella: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8194 is the one I'm thinking of (which someone else may have mentioned to you) that wsa fixed in [24311]. Note, though, I didn't read scrollback. |
| [21:50:50] | wagnerrp: | and several weeks prior to release |
| [21:50:51] | sphery: | that version is pre-0.23-fixes |
| [21:51:14] | sphery: | 0.23 was released at 24521 |
| [21:51:34] | sphery: | antonella_bella: is this Mythbuntu? If so, you need to enable auto-builds |
| [21:51:40] | sphery: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds |
| [21:51:47] | sphery: | (or regular Ubuntu, too) |
| [21:51:48] | Beirdo: | and -fixes is at 25145 |
| [21:51:54] | antonella_bella: | sphery no, it's mythtv |
| [21:52:06] | Beirdo: | gah |
| [21:52:19] | Beirdo: | my brain hurts ;) |
| [21:52:22] | sphery: | mythtv is an app--you need an underlying distro |
| [21:52:35] | sphery: | so if it's mythtv installed on *buntu, do the auto-builds thing |
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| [21:53:56] | antonella_bella: | sphery i read, but how to fix the problem they found? |
| [21:54:25] | antonella_bella: | Beirdo do you suggest to clean and reinstall? |
| [21:54:27] | sphery: | antonella_bella: what distro? |
| [21:54:43] | antonella_bella: | sphery kubuntu 10 |
| [21:54:50] | gbee: | antonella_bella: I think the guys in #mythbuntu are best placed to help you, ask for superm1, Daviey or laga |
| [21:55:04] | sphery: | antonella_bella: go to http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds , enable the 0.23-fixes auto-builds, then update |
| [21:55:17] | sphery: | and, yeah, #mythbuntu guys will be the most helpful |
| [21:55:18] | antonella_bella: | ok gbee |
| [21:56:25] | keld: | I am trying to edit my recording rules, and have changed a rule from using "=" to using "LIKE" – this works when testing, but when I say "save" it does not save as a rule. mythtv 0.23. What can I do? |
| [21:56:52] | antonella_bella: | many thanks all |
| [21:56:55] | antonella_bella: | bye! |
| [21:57:38] | Beirdo: | Ciao |
| [21:58:01] | gbee: | antonella_bella: good luck |
| [21:58:12] | johnnyj: | prego |
| [21:58:14] | sphery: | keld: using a custom recording rule? |
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| [21:58:22] | sphery: | johnnyj: Ragu |
| [21:59:08] | keld: | yes, using custom recording rule |
| [21:59:49] | keld: | maybe I can set it up via another menu? |
| [22:00:24] | sphery: | keld: and you're using mythfrontend to edit it (not MythWeb)? |
| [22:00:41] | keld: | my problem is that series number is recorded in the title – I want to record all episodes in a series |
| [22:00:54] | keld: | I use mythforntend |
| [22:01:05] | sphery: | keld: and you go through the process of typing it in, hit Save, then using the recording rule editor, you change the rule type to "Record at any time on any channel", then Save again? |
| [22:01:33] | keld: | Yes, I believe so |
| [22:01:33] | sphery: | using the recording rule editor that pops up after you set the custom rule criteria that is |
| [22:02:04] | sphery: | well, I know that the custom rule editor works fine--ignoring some UI issues with longer-than-the-text-box text |
| [22:02:11] | sphery: | so I have a feeling that you're missing some critical step |
| [22:02:53] | keld: | when I use custom editing rules, and edit by typing and save, then the new values are not saved, when I try to enter the custom editing again |
| [22:03:59] | keld: | this is from the editing rules submenu |
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| [22:06:20] | keld: | I do have a problem with some of the menu texts for choosing mode of recording (once a day, always etc) are too big to be displayed wholly |
| [22:07:30] | keld: | It seems like my editing of the rules do not get updated |
| [22:08:45] | keld: | that is, saved, when I hit the save button, and also say save as seek... |
| [22:09:08] | rhollan_: | damn stupid logitech Harmony 300. Their programming app won't allow assignment of devices to device keys. So, the MythTV box is a VCR/Aux instead of a DVD, and the Outlaw 990 preamp is a DVD |
| [22:09:41] | rhollan_: | I guess I could use a DVD remote to controll the MythTV box with the right Lirc mapping, and tell the Logitech S/W it was A DVD |
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| [22:10:14] | wagnerrp: | thats why most people go for the ones with LCDs |
| [22:11:20] | rhollan_: | yeah, but this one would be fine otherwise. |
| [22:11:47] | rhollan_: | it's a minor nit... and yet it should not be hard to fix. |
| [22:12:04] | rhollan_: | Logitech claims they got a LOT of complaints about not being able to remap devices |
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| [22:14:29] | wagnerrp: | mythtv used to record output from mpeg encoders as nuvs, did it do that with digital tuners as well? |
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| [22:16:25] | rhollan_: | Are there any DVD remote lirc mapping files available? I could tell the Harmony 300 that the MythBox is a DVD. |
| [22:16:57] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: huh? |
| [22:17:13] | wagnerrp: | nevermind, he claims they are new recordings |
| [22:17:16] | Beirdo: | mpeg encoder output may have been NAMED .nuv, but they were never nuvs |
| [22:18:06] | ** wagnerrp is coming up with an 'ignorant' response to AnotherSyllyname's post to the mailing list, giving advice as if he had actually recorded the shows ** | |
| [22:18:44] | ** Beirdo notices the peg leg and parrot ** | |
| [22:21:15] | wagnerrp: | i forget, does edit mode list the current frame number? |
| [22:21:28] | wagnerrp: | no, it does H:MM:SS.frame |
| [22:21:28] | Beirdo: | not sure off hand. |
| [22:22:33] | sphery: | wagnerrp: btw, this is the HS/Fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200017 |
| [22:22:50] | sphery: | it's definitely quiet enough for my purposes (with these systems not in my viewing room) |
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| [22:23:21] | sphery: | downside, though, is that now that I've replaced the loud fans, the only way to know if my WOL worked is to exercise some patience or walk into the other room and look for lights. |
| [22:23:22] | wagnerrp: | im wondering if this is such a good idea, since im going to have to recommend going into the database to find the needed info |
| [22:23:26] | Golffies: | rhollan_: I am using a Thomson RCT311DA2 remote to control my mythbox. May lircd.conf file be useful to you ? |
| [22:23:41] | sphery: | wagnerrp: why not tell him to cut the episode in half? |
| [22:23:46] | Beirdo: | sphery: nice |
| [22:23:58] | sphery: | i.e. separate into the 2 parts it really is |
| [22:24:09] | wagnerrp: | well im explaining how to go into the seek data and find the actual byte location of the nearest keyframe |
| [22:24:10] | Beirdo: | or tell him not to pirate |
| [22:24:12] | wagnerrp: | for an exact cut |
| [22:24:29] | wagnerrp: | since he recorded it, it will be a transport stream, and he can do stuff like that, right? |
| [22:24:40] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:24:41] | sphery: | he can get that from the Recordings Editor using a theme that shows current frame (Arclight) |
| [22:24:47] | Beirdo: | yeah, he recorded an .mkv |
| [22:24:48] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [22:24:56] | wagnerrp: | well... he transcoded it from his recording |
| [22:24:58] | sphery: | well, that would be the frame #, which a video editing tool could use to cut it |
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| [22:25:21] | wagnerrp: | sphery: it shows the exact frame number? i thought it showed a timestamp and the current frame of that second |
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| [22:25:41] | sphery: | pretty sure when I advance 1 frame it shows the next number |
| [22:25:53] | sphery: | didn't pay that much attention because I didn't need to know the actual number :) |
| [22:25:59] | wagnerrp: | yes, but then it resets when it hits the next second |
| [22:26:10] | sphery: | resets? |
| [22:26:22] | sphery: | it was a number in the 100,000's forme |
| [22:26:25] | sphery: | for me, even |
| [22:26:36] | wagnerrp: | oh, i remember it cycling between 1–30 or 1–60 |
| [22:26:41] | ** rhollan_ does not see any lirc files for DVD remotes ** | |
| [22:27:19] | sphery: | might be different ones in there... Check out Arclight's OSD theme |
| [22:27:34] | wagnerrp: | oh, is that new in trunk then? |
| [22:31:02] | sphery: | might be something new with the new OSD? |
| [22:31:19] | sphery: | or may be that no one else just ever included it in the theme |
| [22:33:29] | EvilGuru: | Does anyone have a link/remember where to find that cute little python script which freezes the current udev names for a node? |
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| [22:36:01] | Golffies: | I come back to that trouble: |
| [22:36:06] | Golffies: | I generated a channels.conf file with 'scan', listing FTA channels brodcasted by Hotbird-13.0E. When importing the file with myth-setup ("input connections" menu), I get the following error: "Failed to find any channels". Here is the channels.conf file: http://mythtv.pastebin.com/Pwumm5iJ. How to solve that ? |
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| [22:46:45] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: your response is objection #1 from me for embedding mysql :) |
| [22:50:48] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: why's that? the bindings python bindings would keep that data available in the same or similar manner as it is now |
| [22:51:18] | Beirdo: | Here's hoping :) |
| [22:51:21] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [22:51:30] | wagnerrp: | Recorded.getAllEntries().next().markup or .seek |
| [22:52:02] | ** wagnerrp is waiting for the first person on the mailing list complain about me being obtuse to what hes really asking ** | |
| [22:52:15] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [22:52:25] | ** Beirdo hands wagnerrp the flamethrower ** | |
| [23:03:21] | ** rhollan_ is fuming at Logitech idiocy ** | |
| [23:04:00] | rhollan_: | Are there any already scanned lirc codes for any well-known DVD players? |
| [23:05:52] | gbee: | Beirdo, wagnerrp: -users list? |
| [23:06:25] | clever: | rhollan_: if your on ubuntu, have a look in the area of /usr/share/lirc/ |
| [23:06:32] | gbee: | just so I know I'm not going mad and missing something on the -dev list |
| [23:06:43] | clever: | its got a small DB of lirc remote definitions |
| [23:09:00] | highzeth: | latest fixes seem to be a bit nonchalant on the 'run jobs only on original recording be' setting, 4 attempts to make it run on the original sbe. Not seeing any recent tickets on the topic, could it be because I have 2 dirs defined in 'default'? (one nfs share, one local drive) The recordings Ive tested so far end up on the local drive, so that part is ok. |
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| [23:09:25] | Golffies: | rhollan_: are you looking for lircd or lircrc file ? |
| [23:11:46] | rhollan_: | lircrc. Here's my problem: I get an MCE remote to control the mythTV box, and a Logitech Harmony to use the MCE codes. Trouble is, the harmony insists the MCE is a VCR/Aux instead of a DVD (which would make more sense because the MythBox has a DVD drive). Realizing that lirc can map ANY remote codes, I could tell the Harmony to think it's a DVD player instead of an MCE and use the right lircrc file. |
| [23:12:46] | rhollan_: | if I can find a DVD remote for which there are lirc codes and it is popular enough that the Harmony 300 site knows about it. |
| [23:12:57] | clever: | rhollan_: if you have a 'proper' lirc receive, it can recieve any IR code and map it to whatever you want |
| [23:13:11] | clever: | but i think the MCE receiver is one of those cheaper ones that can only receive its own remote codes |
| [23:14:14] | clever: | with a proper receive, you could setup lirc to understand the codes under cd/aux, dvd, tv, and cable modes (max out every mode on the remote!!) and then use every key 4 times over |
| [23:15:08] | highzeth: | ahhh 'no more queue slots' on the sbe's *face palm* |
| [23:16:45] | Golffies: | rhollan_: I am using a Thomson RCT311DA2 remote to control my mythbox. May my lircd.conf file be useful to you ? |
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| [23:20:19] | sphery: | gbee: I think he means in the "[mythtv-users] How do you handle double episode metadatainmythvideo?" thread |
| [23:21:18] | sphery: | and the fact that he's telling the user to re-transcode from the original recording rather than edit the transcoded video |
| [23:22:29] | highzeth: | last ticket I see with the 'no more queue slots' is 7 months old and closed(#7278), should I open a new one, or could it be re-opened? This is with latest fixes. I see no way to up the queue in settings, only number of simultan jobs to run. |
| [23:23:20] | wagnerrp: | gbee: yeah... users list |
| [23:23:42] | gbee: | sphery: ok thanks, now I'm really lost, but so long as I know I've not just missed something on a list I actually subscribe to ;) |
| [23:24:46] | wagnerrp: | gbee: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010-June/291403.html |
| [23:24:54] | Golffies: | rhollan_: sorry, I wanted to write : lircrc. I customised a lircrc file for Thomson RCT311DA2, which controls a DVD, a TV, and a VCR |
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| [23:25:53] | gbee: | wagnerrp: thanks for the thought, I'm happy to remain ignorant if it means saving a couple of minutes to do something useful |
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| [23:27:01] | wagnerrp: | gbee: basically, user claiming to have recorded a show, transcoded to some '*.720p.mkv' file, and is having trouble pulling metadata for it since its a 2-part episode in a single file |
| [23:27:20] | wagnerrp: | so i explained to him how to split the mpeg recording prior to transcoding |
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| [23:32:12] | gbee: | this disconnect problem is becoming annoying |
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| [23:33:06] | wagnerrp: | getting? obviously youve been spending too much time programming to pay attention to the IRC channel |
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| [23:34:24] | wagnerrp: | there was some point late last year where someone kept DOSsing freenode's servers, and dropping them off the network |
| [23:35:03] | Beirdo: | umm... that's always been a problem :) |
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| [23:38:11] | wagnerrp: | id say iamlindoro's disconnect problem is more annoying than just being on the wrong end of a netsplit |
| [23:39:45] | Beirdo: | yeah. Comcast needs a serious beating |
| [23:40:01] | clever: | and he +x'd after joining, so it gives an extra 2 lines of spam |
| [23:40:14] | Beirdo: | spam spam spam |
| [23:40:21] | Beirdo: | rather tasty, really |
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| [23:55:00] | achew22: | I think I heard in here that if you use storage groups ISO's will not play. Is that true or am I imagining that? |
| [23:55:13] | wagnerrp: | that is correct |
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| [23:55:26] | achew22: | is that because of libdvd expecting a physical device? |
| [23:55:28] | wagnerrp: | the third party library used for DVD playback requires direct file access |
| [23:55:29] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [23:55:50] | achew22: | I thought Myth had a built in DVD player |
| [23:55:57] | achew22: | oh, library |
| [23:55:59] | wagnerrp: | yes, using that third party library |
| [23:56:01] | achew22: | got it |
| [23:56:27] | wagnerrp: | there have been several ideas for solutions |
| [23:56:35] | achew22: | Will that be the case when bluray folder playback comes? |
| [23:57:23] | wagnerrp: | from using a FUSE file system, to overriding the file access routines used by the library, to moving playback to the backend and sending a special video file to the frontend |
| [23:57:28] | wagnerrp: | but nothing has yet been committed |
| [23:57:50] | achew22: | can you point me to the code where this would be? |
| [23:58:18] | achew22: | for overriding the file access routines |
| [23:58:32] | wagnerrp: | nope... dont know how exactly that even works, to be honest |
| [23:58:42] | achew22: | time for me to get started reading |
| [23:59:26] | wagnerrp: | if youre legitimately looking to write up a patch to make this work, you should talk to iamlindoro first |
| [23:59:51] | achew22: | iamlindoro: are you around? |
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