| Friday, June 11th, 2010, 00:06 UTC | ||
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| [00:07:07] | [R]: | so aparently newer video cards will put audio out the dvi... freaked me out |
| [00:08:15] | keld: | kormoc: some users just want to use the system as a TV, and if I can set some defaults for them, that make better use of the mythtv capabilities, I will have happier users |
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| [00:09:28] | keld: | the story is about the number of people that did not know how or take the time to set the clock on old tape recording equipment |
| [00:10:12] | iamlindoro: | Myth is most definitely not the right tool for people who want to watch live TV |
| [00:10:30] | Beirdo: | yeah, the TV is the best tool for that |
| [00:10:38] | kormoc: | keld, right, and you have two options. The current default works for everyone and your option allows a slightly better experience for some and crashes for others. Is causing a fair number of people to have crashes better then having it work for everyone slightly worse? |
| [00:11:35] | keld: | I understand that this is not the audience of mythtv. OTOH – I am new to linux TV and only got my TV dongle a couple of weeks ago. I have been playing around and come to be quite enthusiastic about mythtv. It can do a lot. |
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| [00:12:26] | iamlindoro: | We are all enthusiastic about MythTV |
| [00:12:33] | iamlindoro: | we are, however, also realistic about it |
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| [00:12:38] | kormoc: | keld, how would your view on mythtv have been if when you started to use it, it crashed until you found a option you didn't even know about or understand and change? |
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| [00:12:48] | iamlindoro: | it is far too complicated to st up and maintain for a non-technical user |
| [00:13:18] | iamlindoro: | While work is being done to change that, it is probably several years off with the work being done by those of us that know myth best |
| [00:13:46] | iamlindoro: | distro integrators have less hope than we do for completing this work, and they certainly won't be able to do it faster |
| [00:14:50] | sphery: | Basically, MythTV has an unfortunate limitation compared to the commercial-off-the-shelf DVRs of being designed to support a huge and varying number of configurations with extremely different resources and capabilities across systems. The COTS systems are software designed and configured for specific hardware--therefore, they set it up to take full advantage of the hardware, and it's easy for users. If you want plug-and-play DVR for people, MythTV ... |
| [00:14:56] | sphery: | ... probably isn't the right plan. |
| [00:15:12] | keld: | kormoc: I understand your point. For naive users things should not go wrong in the default. |
| [00:15:26] | kormoc: | keld, exactly |
| [00:18:56] | keld: | I would just like to bring my good experiences with linux and possibly mythtv to a larger audience, and I wonder how to do it. I did fing mythtv a bit hard to set up. maybe some profiling, or other defaults would make it much easier to get mythtv in the air for novice users. |
| [00:19:19] | iamlindoro: | It is definitely not even close to that simple |
| [00:19:47] | iamlindoro: | As previously mentioned, we are probably 12 months from a more simple setup, and probably two years from a simpler frontend UI |
| [00:20:24] | keld: | ok, but the plan is to get there. |
| [00:20:30] | sphery: | why is my tea blue? and why does it taste like fertilizer? |
| [00:20:35] | iamlindoro: | yes. It's just not to get there today. |
| [00:20:42] | Beirdo: | sphery: wha? |
| [00:20:56] | sphery: | watching V |
| [00:21:09] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [00:21:12] | Beirdo: | OK |
| [00:21:25] | keld: | hmm, maybe then I could contribute a little with some ideas and possible some proposed patches. |
| [00:21:42] | iamlindoro: | patches yes, ideas we have truckloads of |
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| [00:21:55] | keld: | :-) |
| [00:22:24] | wagnerrp: | half a dozen wiki pages full of 'em |
| [00:22:30] | wagnerrp: | and probably a couple thousand mailing list threads |
| [00:22:47] | iamlindoro: | That is to say that ideas without patches are not very helpful, they sound more like demands (whether they are or not) since most of us that know the myth code intimately know *exactly* how to improve it-- but also have mortgages to pay |
| [00:22:55] | [R]: | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 9.2G 8.8G 0 100% / |
| [00:22:58] | [R]: | how is that possible? |
| [00:23:05] | Beirdo: | [R]: way to go |
| [00:23:07] | iamlindoro: | whereas patches submitted are very cheerfully received |
| [00:23:09] | wagnerrp: | can you actually disable mouseclicks in the frontend? |
| [00:23:20] | Beirdo: | how is WHAT possible? You filled / |
| [00:23:30] | wagnerrp: | [R]: the filesystem artificially limits the available space on the file system |
| [00:23:33] | [R]: | Beirdo: i filled a 9.2gb partition with 8.8gb of data? |
| [00:23:35] | sphery: | Beirdo: Basically, a guy got some "Phosphorous" (which, apparently humans can't produce in a sufficiently-dense concentrate to work to save his fiance) from the mothership and put it into her tea. It was blue, and turned the tea blue. |
| [00:23:36] | Beirdo: | yes |
| [00:23:37] | wagnerrp: | as an anti-fragmentation measure |
| [00:23:51] | wagnerrp: | root is allowed to exceed that limit, normal users are not |
| [00:23:57] | Beirdo: | mkfs defaults to 5% reserved for root |
| [00:24:03] | Beirdo: | has forever. |
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| [00:24:28] | sphery: | [R]: did you enable the DoubleSpace compression? |
| [00:24:39] | Beirdo: | not sure it was meant for fragmentation, but anyways... |
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| [00:24:50] | [R]: | sphery: haha |
| [00:24:56] | [R]: | well its all corrupt |
| [00:24:58] | Beirdo: | if it's ext2/3, you can use tune2fs to lower that reserved space |
| [00:25:01] | [R]: | i'm just gonna reinstall |
| [00:25:24] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: in the freebsd/ufs docs, they claim its for speed optimizations of some sort |
| [00:25:27] | ** sphery specifically wants a 5% margin on all root filesystems ** | |
| [00:25:49] | sphery: | that way when some bad user fills the drive, the system keeps working |
| [00:25:50] | [R]: | i have a filesystem mounted in /mythtv, it says space is used... but there is no files there |
| [00:25:51] | Beirdo: | heh. 5% has been around since before freebsd was a gleam in the developers' eyes |
| [00:26:05] | sphery: | [R]: filesystem structures? |
| [00:26:21] | [R]: | oh lol... its 4.2M... i dint atualy read the number |
| [00:26:40] | keld: | xfs does not put a 5 % reserve limit on yo by default |
| [00:26:52] | Beirdo: | it's basically (as I was told years back) so root can login and fix a borked system... |
| [00:27:12] | Beirdo: | xfs should also never be run up past about 90% full |
| [00:27:16] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: and if root borked the system themselves? |
| [00:27:28] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: then the admin should be fired |
| [00:27:32] | Beirdo: | and/or shot |
| [00:27:40] | [R]: | isn't that what quota is for? |
| [00:27:42] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: we regularly fill up our XFS arrays at work |
| [00:27:49] | sphery: | besides, that's what boot/root disks are for |
| [00:27:54] | Beirdo: | quota is to control EACH user |
| [00:27:54] | [R]: | wagnerrp: THATS what she said |
| [00:28:06] | [R]: | wagnerrp: and don't tell me that ones not funny |
| [00:28:07] | Beirdo: | the 5% margin is to contain the entire system |
| [00:28:11] | wagnerrp: | for some reason the higher ups like to buy more processors rather than disk space |
| [00:28:29] | wagnerrp: | ive got more disk space at home than the entire cluster at work does |
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| [00:28:46] | Beirdo: | you run into fragmentation hell (amongst other things) with nearly full XFS... it's slower than molasses |
| [00:29:15] | Beirdo: | but anyways :) |
| [00:29:29] | Beirdo: | on modern HUGE drives, I often use 1% reserved |
| [00:29:43] | Beirdo: | even that's excessive on a 1TB volume |
| [00:32:34] | sphery: | Heh, when I was working for a certain government entity, we needed a new storage array for an I/O-constrained process that ran for weeks at a time. We submitted the requirements for a $600K purchase including a SAN and a little server system, and the IT guys said, "No, this won't work. Instead of a little Sparc server, you need an E10K (new at the time). But, really, we should buy 2 of them, so you can have failover." (Note that our custom app ... |
| [00:32:40] | sphery: | ... didn't support failover--or even automatic restart of jobs--so if the server or whatever failed, it would just mean that the backup system kicks in immediately and waits for the tech to come in and submit the job again.) They worked a deal with Sun to get 2 E10K's for the price of 1 (total of about $1M). Note that neither E10K included a single HDD (not even a root drive). |
| [00:33:02] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [00:33:19] | sphery: | and all we needed was more/faster hard drives |
| [00:33:25] | Beirdo: | I want an E10k... don't wanna pay for it... don't wanna pay for the electricity |
| [00:33:39] | Beirdo: | actually, I'll take an E25k |
| [00:33:41] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [00:34:02] | sphery: | No joke--that was the other thing. When Sun shipped it and they went to install it, the IT guys found out we didn't have the power /or/ cooling support for it. It sat unused for >1yr |
| [00:34:20] | Beirdo: | snicker |
| [00:34:23] | Beirdo: | idiots |
| [00:34:41] | sphery: | yeah, but they were the tech guys, so they obviously knew better than we did |
| [00:34:47] | wagnerrp: | so kormoc, whats with all the '</dd>'s? friends making you drive home from the bar too often? |
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| [00:37:38] | keld: | a novice question: can I hit a keyboard key to pause? I don't see anything in the menu (m key) |
| [00:37:54] | sphery: | P |
| [00:38:05] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, huh? |
| [00:38:09] | sphery: | (TOGGLEPLAY) |
| [00:38:12] | wagnerrp: | #8553 |
| [00:38:33] | keld: | ok, is there a list of keys and what they do? |
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| [00:39:32] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, heh, that's been that way for years! wow |
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| [00:41:16] | sphery: | maybe they started out as data definition list items |
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| [00:46:30] | upgrdman: | how do i change the input i am viewing? like from atsc tuner to the composite input? |
| [00:47:35] | wagnerrp: | you have to define them as separate inputs in mythtv-setup |
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| [00:50:18] | sphery: | upgrdman: if you mean, "How do I switch when watching Live TV?", MENU|Switch Inputs |
| [00:50:27] | sphery: | or something like that |
| [00:50:39] | sphery: | you can also set a key binding for it |
| [00:51:01] | sphery: | or might need to use NEXTCARD instead |
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| [00:52:37] | wagnerrp: | '-' is a letter? |
| [00:52:54] | wagnerrp: | guess theyve added a few since the last time ive been to grade school |
| [00:53:17] | sphery: | is this on a -users list post? |
| [00:53:22] | kormoc: | sphery, nah, a ticket |
| [00:53:27] | wagnerrp: | 7726 |
| [00:53:31] | sphery: | oh |
| [00:56:14] | wagnerrp: | why am i re-recording episodes of stargate? |
| [00:57:25] | sphery: | kormoc: on #8215 , you're saying "fix the database schema" right? Since settings.hostname should be charset utf8 using DB default collation of utf8_general_ci. |
| [00:57:47] | sphery: | so the user must have broken his schema, right? |
| [00:57:59] | kormoc: | sphery, exactly |
| [00:58:13] | sphery: | cool |
| [00:58:32] | wagnerrp: | is it programid the scheduler matches on? |
| [00:58:40] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, if it was only so simple |
| [00:58:55] | kormoc: | sphery, speaking of which, did you see the text->varchar speed difference I mentioned last night? |
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| [01:00:40] | sphery: | kormoc: yeah, sweet |
| [01:00:45] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: i mean thats the first try, if it is exists |
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| [01:00:53] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, yeah, it's the first one it trys |
| [01:01:15] | sphery: | kormoc: are you changing all the texts to varchars? I don't see any reason to keep text with current mysql |
| [01:02:02] | kormoc: | I thought you were going to :) But I can, no problems, I just wonder what the best size would be |
| [01:02:07] | sphery: | I will if you like |
| [01:02:14] | sphery: | just didn't know who was supposed to :) |
| [01:02:32] | kormoc: | Go for it, you know that code much better then I :) |
| [01:02:41] | sphery: | It seems we only used text because prior to MySQL 5, varchar was limited to 255 chars |
| [01:02:51] | kormoc: | I wonder if 1024 would be enough |
| [01:03:04] | sphery: | yeah, 65K is a bit large for most |
| [01:03:22] | sphery: | I heard, though that 640 is a good number to choose when looking for a "enough for anyone" value |
| [01:03:26] | kormoc: | heh |
| [01:03:30] | wagnerrp: | that for descriptions? |
| [01:03:34] | kormoc: | <768 would be awesome |
| [01:03:38] | kormoc: | wouldn't use a overflow page |
| [01:03:44] | sphery: | primarily descriptions |
| [01:03:57] | sphery: | then 767 sounds like the value for me |
| [01:04:04] | sphery: | s/for/to/ |
| [01:04:27] | sphery: | seems I had an invalid multiplier of 2 in there |
| [01:05:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: all of them being: program/record/recorded/recordedprogram/oldrecorded.description , settings.data, powerpriority.selectclause, mythlog.details, customexample.fromclause/whereclause . |
| [01:06:45] | kormoc: | ahh |
| [01:06:47] | kormoc: | I'm slightly wrong |
| [01:07:12] | kormoc: | we can go <4000 before it splits it up into a 768 byte chunk and puts the rest off page |
| [01:07:51] | sphery: | Wow, so the hard part will be deciding on specific values. I may send an e-mail to -developers to ask for suggestions. |
| [01:07:59] | sphery: | I'll quote your results in it :) |
| [01:08:18] | kormoc: | They can verify without db modification as well if they want |
| [01:08:38] | kormoc: | set tmpdir=/dev/shm (or where-ever your distro mounts a shm point) |
| [01:08:45] | sphery: | I'll include a MAX(LENGTH()) for each in mine |
| [01:09:02] | sphery: | oh, verifying the speedup--I see |
| [01:09:23] | sphery: | I'm out of town tomorrow, so I'll write up the e-mail this weekend or early next week |
| [01:09:28] | kormoc: | sounds good |
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| [01:11:15] | sphery: | gigem would actually be a good person to ask about max length for fields if we were to convert them from text to varchar |
| [01:11:42] | sphery: | (as he curses his network for dropping out just when he was trying to hide) |
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| [01:18:48] | betolley: | I just moved my system to a new case and motherboard. Mplayer and mythtv will not play audio(video is fine) for the tv card. xawtv plays fine(i have to enable the line in in the mixer) Any ideas? |
| [01:19:42] | kormoc: | betolley, follow the tv card audio setup sets in the docs again |
| [01:32:51] | betolley: | ok i looked through. everything looks ok. The mixer settings match. I can play mp3s using mplayer. I did try this: mplayer tv://3 -tv driver=v4l2:input=0:width=384:height=288:adevice=hw.1,0:audiorate=32000:forceaud io:volume=100:alsa:immediatemode=0 and I can see the video but I can't hear anything...Just like in mythtv |
| [01:34:07] | betolley: | But if I manually turn on the line in the mixer. I can hear audio |
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| [01:43:10] | Beirdo: | better go put the pizza in the oven shortly :) |
| [01:44:50] | Beirdo: | went to Papa Murphy's. |
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| [02:23:27] | wagnerrp: | betolley: that means your tuner card has no capture hardware, and youre capturing audio through the sound card |
| [02:23:33] | wagnerrp: | you have to set it up as such |
| [02:24:18] | sphery: | or buy a better/easier-to-use capture card, like the Hauppauge PVR-150 or PVR-500 |
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| [02:26:08] | betolley: | Yea this is my old card. I used to hhave a hauppauge 250 The bar went out on it...I need to use this for the time being. |
| [02:26:15] | wagnerrp: | sphery: any idea what this 'tmptable' is supposed to be? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . er.cpp#L2739 |
| [02:26:39] | wagnerrp: | is that literally the name of an empty temporary table for the scheduler to use? |
| [02:28:40] | sphery: | that's to find out just how temptable a show is. If the temptation level is high, MythTV just records it |
| [02:29:24] | sphery: | Actually, I think it's for the speculative scheduler--it runs a reschedule on a temp table (not the real tables) so that you can view changes before applying them |
| [02:29:50] | wagnerrp: | so the string i provide would be things like... 'old and busted', 'pretty hot and tempting', 'bootylicious',.... |
| [02:32:18] | sphery: | heh |
| [02:32:25] | sphery: | I don't know for sure |
| [02:32:33] | sphery: | haven't really done anything with the spec sched |
| [02:34:05] | wagnerrp: | just looking at adding a method to pull all upcoming recordings for a recordid |
| [02:34:31] | wagnerrp: | wondering if it would be better to rerun the scheduler on that recordid, or just pull the existing upcoming list and parse out by matching recordid |
| [02:35:11] | betolley: | what do i need to do to have myth capture from my line input instead? |
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| [04:27:04] | wagnerrp: | justinh: you might enjoy this quote... |
| [04:27:11] | wagnerrp: | <patrickd> Anyone care to suggest books/documents/web adress's/wiki's/tools to learn "python pattern's"? |
| [04:27:34] | dfletcher_: | heh sphery I think that might have stopped it from scheduling new things, but it still has days and days of stuff previously scheduled. not exactly a quick shutoff. it's like BP ;) |
| [04:28:43] | sphery: | dfletcher_: it shows things that will record, but they won't record if you're running under --nosched |
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| [04:29:02] | sphery: | the only scheduled items exist in memory--there's nothing in the DB about what to record |
| [04:29:12] | sphery: | so there's no possible way that "old scheduled items" would remain |
| [04:30:28] | wagnerrp: | holy crap... firefox pulling one full core and 1.6GB |
| [04:32:26] | dfletcher_: | hmm well it's still recording things sphery |
| [04:33:01] | dfletcher_: | mythtv lists a schdule until the 23rd |
| [04:33:06] | dfletcher_: | err. mythweb. |
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| [04:33:35] | sphery: | wagnerrp: sounds like JavaScript Gone Wild! |
| [04:33:50] | sphery: | dfletcher_: listing a schedule means nothing |
| [04:34:03] | sphery: | dfletcher_: only means that's what /would/ record if you enable recording |
| [04:34:13] | sphery: | dfletcher_: like I said, "it shows things that will record, but they won't record if you're running under --nosched" |
| [04:34:33] | dfletcher_: | alright well I have recordings since earlier when I added that arg |
| [04:34:34] | sphery: | i.e. unless you're saying, "It started recording a show and there's a new file on disk and the log says it is recording," all is well |
| [04:34:53] | sphery: | if you're saying that you got new recordings, then you're not running under --nosched |
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| [04:36:27] | dfletcher_: | hmm well from /etc/init/mythtv-backend: ARGS="--nosched --logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --user $USER" |
| [04:36:46] | sphery: | ps -efw | grep mythback |
| [04:36:47] | dfletcher_: | maybe the upstart restart command doesn't work on it |
| [04:36:53] | sphery: | do you see the --nosched in there? |
| [04:37:05] | sphery: | if not, I think you may need to talk to distro people |
| [04:37:13] | sphery: | or just disable the upstart/init and start it manually |
| [04:37:13] | dfletcher_: | bah yeah that's it, restart didn't |
| [04:37:22] | ** dfletcher_ uses killall ** | |
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| [04:38:21] | dfletcher_: | hrm no, ok actually it's ignoring my /etc change. wth?! |
| [04:39:28] | dfletcher_: | bah it's respawning when I kill it |
| [04:39:32] | dfletcher_: | alright time for restart |
| [04:41:46] | dfletcher_: | btw thanks for the tip on how to see args with ps sphery, never knew that one |
| [04:42:05] | dfletcher_: | ahh ok restart picked it up. cool. |
| [04:43:56] | dfletcher_: | omg that disk must have been dying for a while now. now that it's not mounted mythweb got a ton faster... quicker page loads, quicker deletes |
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| [04:44:36] | dfletcher_: | I thought the slowness was just normal, it's been like that since I installed. man I really need to get some new hardware :) |
| [04:44:44] | wagnerrp: | how slow? |
| [04:44:59] | dfletcher_: | click delete on the recordings page ... wait 15–20 secs |
| [04:45:05] | dfletcher_: | now it's < 1 second |
| [04:48:49] | sphery: | wagnerrp: some of these grabbers are trunk only, right? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNetvision |
| [04:49:15] | sphery: | wondering what I'll have available when upgrading to 0.23-fixes on production |
| [04:49:41] | wagnerrp: | several of them only exist in trunk, yes |
| [04:50:13] | sphery: | ok... we should include that in the table :) |
| [04:50:24] | sphery: | I may have to update it when I figure out which is where :) |
| [04:50:43] | sphery: | oh, wait, "Minimum MythTV version" |
| [04:50:45] | sphery: | duh |
| [04:50:50] | sphery: | sorry for the noise |
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| [04:51:02] | wagnerrp: | nice when people anticipate your desires isnt it |
| [04:51:18] | upgrdman: | how can i bring up the reception meter while watching live tv? |
| [04:51:27] | wagnerrp: | alt+f7 |
| [04:51:32] | upgrdman: | one google results mentions f7 but it didnt work |
| [04:51:39] | upgrdman: | alt ... thanks! |
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| [04:52:00] | upgrdman: | hum |
| [04:52:17] | wagnerrp: | sphery: hows this for some compile errors.... http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/installation- . . . ml#port52480 |
| [04:52:36] | upgrdman: | alt-f7 lets me move the mythtv window around, doesnt pop up a meter for me :) |
| [04:52:53] | wagnerrp: | sounds like gnome is overriding myth's own keybindings |
| [04:53:01] | wagnerrp: | disable it in gnome, or remap it in mythtv |
| [04:53:33] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, those are serious errors :) |
| [04:53:43] | sphery: | don't know why it's leaving a directory |
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| [05:00:13] | [R]: | i can't get the analog side of my hvr1600 working... it works fine in mplayer, but when i go to livetv it sits on "please wait" and then it goes back to teh menu... what kidn of debug can i enable in the backend? |
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| [05:02:08] | [R]: | oh... i think i'm oepning the wrong device... hrm |
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| [05:27:36] | upgrdman: | it seems whenever i watch live tv and changed channels it saves what i was watching ... filling up my recordings list with a bunch of short clips. anyway to make it delete the live tv records when i switch channels? the only records i want to keep are the shows a schedule to record |
| [05:30:11] | wagnerrp: | upgrdman: those short clips are deleted when you run out of space, or within 24hrs, whichever comes first |
| [05:30:38] | wagnerrp: | mythtv always stores everything you watch |
| [05:31:18] | wagnerrp: | that way, you can decide to 'record' something at any point while youre watching it, up to several hours afterwards |
| [05:31:41] | upgrdman: | o ok.. as long as they will go away in 24hrs thats cool |
| [05:31:59] | wagnerrp: | you have space dedicated to mythtv, right? |
| [05:32:55] | upgrdman: | a little over 1TB |
| [05:33:19] | wagnerrp: | if you have dedicated space, such that mythtv will not overrun anything else with recordings, why would it matter? |
| [05:33:47] | upgrdman: | i like to be organized :) and i hate short clips |
| [05:34:10] | wagnerrp: | but you shouldnt be tinkering around in the recording files anyway? |
| [05:34:23] | wagnerrp: | erm... that was supposed to be a statement |
| [05:34:51] | upgrdman: | im not, they are listed in mythtv |
| [05:35:08] | wagnerrp: | they should be hidden, unless you took off the livetv filter |
| [05:35:21] | upgrdman: | hum, i might have by accident |
| [05:35:22] | wagnerrp: | in the 'watch recordings' menu, hit 'm' to access the filter controls |
| [05:35:25] | upgrdman: | how do i put it back on |
| [05:35:28] | upgrdman: | ok |
| [05:36:35] | upgrdman: | "All programs" is what i want right? |
| [05:39:44] | wagnerrp: | dont know off hand, i never touch that stuff |
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| [05:59:47] | DeadliestSnatch: | Can someone help me find a list of changes made to v4l-dvb based on chipset? |
| [05:59:51] | DeadliestSnatch: | No one is alive in #v4l. |
| [06:00:42] | wagnerrp: | check their mercurial tree? |
| [06:01:27] | wagnerrp: | we dont support linuxtv's drivers in here, only use them |
| [06:01:51] | DeadliestSnatch: | Yeah, I don't really know how to do that from their web site. |
| [06:01:56] | DeadliestSnatch: | http://www.linuxtv.org/repo/ |
| [06:02:01] | DeadliestSnatch: | I go there, but it's not obvious to me. |
| [06:03:19] | wagnerrp: | http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb/file/023a0048e6a8 |
| [06:04:37] | DeadliestSnatch: | Hmm... thanks for that link, but I've seen something else on their site... where it shows who committed which changes, what each change was, etc. |
| [06:06:01] | wagnerrp: | dont know my way around mercurial enough to help you there |
| [06:06:13] | DeadliestSnatch: | Okay |
| [06:06:16] | DeadliestSnatch: | Thanks for helping though |
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| [06:47:15] | mcl0vin: | howdy folks |
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| [07:28:18] | justinh: | hmmm email notifications aren't working for all my subscribers. bah |
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| [07:38:37] | FisherPrice70: | has anyone got internet radio up and running with mythtv 0.23? |
| [07:38:45] | FisherPrice70: | do you use mythnetvision? |
| [07:40:11] | justinh: | I doubt anybody has internet radio going with mythtv unless they've been naughty & added direct player EXEC menu items in a menu theme |
| [07:42:24] | FisherPrice70: | :/ |
| [07:42:54] | FisherPrice70: | I was hoping to get radio on my mythbox |
| [07:43:25] | justinh: | ah well then. you'd better hope somebody adds internet radio support to mythmusic at some point in the future then |
| [07:43:43] | FisherPrice70: | :| |
| [07:43:50] | FisherPrice70: | feature request then I think |
| [07:44:08] | FisherPrice70: | I understand that the unoffical plugin mythstream did it |
| [07:44:13] | justinh: | it'll likely already be in the feature requests |
| [07:44:55] | justinh: | anyway wouldn't it be better to support a squeezeserver instead? ;-) |
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| [07:48:18] | FisherPrice70: | it might.. but you still need the player if there's a server out there you can connect too |
| [07:48:33] | FisherPrice70: | there's some radio stations that I would really be interested in |
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| [07:49:09] | FisherPrice70: | and for local content myth already does what I want |
| [07:49:10] | justinh: | I might be looking at making a proper squeezeplay feature soon |
| [07:49:16] | FisherPrice70: | with mythmusic |
| [07:49:33] | justinh: | because for all the good mythmusic is, it's just one local player & I'd like whole house audio |
| [07:49:42] | justinh: | controlled from one, or several places :) |
| [07:50:16] | justinh: | there's already a squeezeplayer plugin called mythsqueeze but it's pretty awful |
| [07:50:49] | justinh: | anyway is nobody maintaining mythstream these days? |
| [07:51:19] | FisherPrice70: | well, tbh it would be better to incorporate squeeze server in myth somehow |
| [07:51:32] | FisherPrice70: | and replace mythmusic with it |
| [07:51:43] | FisherPrice70: | if it can be stable and more useful |
| [07:52:06] | FisherPrice70: | no, I don't think anyone is maintaining it... least the latest build is for 0.22 |
| [07:53:00] | justinh: | I looked at mpd for about 2 seconds. it all seems pretty awful too |
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| [08:13:56] | Jay2k1: | i added a submenu "web radio" with some streams that would open in VLC |
| [08:14:32] | justinh: | I'm not sure but maybe the internal player can do URLs now |
| [08:14:34] | Jay2k1: | not the best solution though, i had to enable a fullscreen visualisation to hide VLC's GUI |
| [08:14:49] | justinh: | heheh put a bag over its head. it needs it! |
| [08:14:55] | Jay2k1: | and the biggest downside was that i had to re-edit the menu.xml whenever it was updated heh |
| [08:15:30] | justinh: | just looking into the squeeze API now.. |
| [08:15:50] | justinh: | though it's been easier to locate a tarball of mythsqueezebox to have a peek |
| [08:16:13] | justinh: | from what I've seen of the players so far there are just lists of lists, and those lists can have icons... |
| [08:16:21] | justinh: | dunno how the actual playing works yet |
| [08:16:34] | justinh: | I might yet be able to cobble something together |
| [08:16:43] | Jay2k1: | lists of lists with icons? i'm lost |
| [08:17:05] | justinh: | well, the server gets queried, it returns lists of things according to the query |
| [08:17:14] | justinh: | and items in the list can have their own graphic |
| [08:17:22] | Jay2k1: | ah ok |
| [08:17:29] | justinh: | I don't think anything involved is beyond mythui :) |
| [08:24:39] | justinh: | heh mythsqueezebox is kinda mythui but isn't. doesn't seem to use many useful widgets |
| [08:26:02] | justinh: | bloody hell it paints onscreen itself! |
| [08:26:22] | justinh: | man, this is why plugins remain 3rd party.. this sort of jiggery |
| [08:26:49] | justinh: | myPainter.drawLine(x, py, x, y-1); |
| [08:29:35] | Jay2k1: | :x |
| [08:29:51] | Jay2k1: | i could as well continue using VLC with some selfmade myth theme then |
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| [08:32:31] | justinh: | heh this lot isn't very well documented. in the slimdevices forums they say the API is in the source code |
| [08:33:21] | justinh: | I know another project who used to say that ;) |
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| [09:16:02] | justinh: | weird. I can get mail from my gmail account, but not when I use sendmail |
| [09:18:43] | justinh: | oh crap. my domain is on a blacklist |
| [09:21:01] | bjd: | grats |
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| [09:24:05] | Jay2k1: | heh |
| [09:24:20] | Jay2k1: | my boss once complained that facebook kept telling him that his mail address is invalid |
| [09:25:05] | Jay2k1: | turns out some facebook mx'es made it onto dnsbl.sorbs.net |
| [09:25:12] | justinh: | only one blacklisting thingy has got my mail server's IP on its books so far |
| [09:25:37] | justinh: | one very minor one – but it prolly happens to be one my work's cheap-as-anything filter uses |
| [09:26:20] | justinh: | not that I trust any of these 'free blacklist check' sites as far as I could spit, mind |
| [09:26:46] | Jay2k1: | heh |
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| [09:28:51] | justinh: | if it's affecting me it's affecting other people who use heart internet too though |
| [09:29:25] | sid3windr: | did you get your site moved over already justinh ? :) |
| [09:29:53] | justinh: | already. pfft |
| [09:30:00] | sid3windr: | :> |
| [09:30:02] | justinh: | it took 2 days for the domain update to complete all told |
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| [09:34:34] | justinh: | step 1: get the old host to change the tag. step 2. wait for the tag change to propagate. step 3: get the new host to instigate a transfer step 4: wait 24 hours until the new host sees the option to manage the domain in their control panel. step 5: update the nameserver details on the domain. Then wait. |
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| [09:47:32] | justinh: | ah. looking at the properties of a received mail from my domain is showing something interesting |
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| [10:54:31] | pak0: | how can i add a new graber? for tv |
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| [10:54:48] | pak0: | i have edited one graber, but cant find it under myth-setup |
| [10:55:14] | justinh: | it has to work with xmltv's 'find grabbers' function |
| [10:55:27] | justinh: | if it won't work with that mythtv-setup will never see it |
| [10:55:33] | pak0: | ok |
| [10:55:52] | pak0: | i think i find it the solution for utf-8 problem, but now i have to edit the graber |
| [10:56:00] | pak0: | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tv.xmltv.cvs/4924 |
| [10:56:28] | pak0: | then i have to run xmltv on term? |
| [10:56:54] | justinh: | you can only assign ONE xmltv grabber per video souce |
| [10:57:07] | pak0: | yes, i know |
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| [10:59:15] | pak0: | i have set +x to my new graber, and i can use it under term |
| [11:00:49] | pak0: | now, when i come in to myth-setup, i can see two graber, i would try it |
| [11:02:18] | pak0: | but how can i now what is the correct or change the name of the graber? |
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| [11:42:01] | wagnerrp: | agh... i keep turning off windows update but to no effect |
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| [11:48:55] | justinh: | playing with SPF isn't fun |
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| [12:31:47] | ch077179: | hello can I use mythtv to watch tv live with a pinnacle usb antenna? No recording or scheduling needed.. |
| [12:32:31] | wagnerrp: | if you need no recording or scheduling, you need no mythtv |
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| [12:33:50] | ch077179: | ok what do I need then? |
| [12:34:05] | ch077179: | i.e. name of a software? |
| [12:34:09] | justinh: | |
| [12:34:11] | wagnerrp: | any one of a handful of other programs that support the DVB protocol |
| [12:34:23] | wagnerrp: | mplayer, VLC, kaffiene |
| [12:34:44] | justinh: | xine |
| [12:34:54] | wagnerrp: | totem? |
| [12:37:36] | ch077179: | I got vlc, but it says it cannot open the dvb device allthouh it is connected |
| [12:38:40] | wagnerrp: | if youre not using mythtv, please try in #vlc or #linuxtv |
| [12:38:54] | wagnerrp: | make sure you have a node at /dev/dvb/adapter0 |
| [12:38:54] | justinh: | last time I installed ubuntu the default user wasn't allowed to access devices owned by the 'video' group |
| [12:39:09] | justinh: | so make sure your user has permission to use 'video' owned devices |
| [12:39:15] | wagnerrp: | and check to see if your capture device is actually supported |
| [12:39:19] | wagnerrp: | !url hardware |
| [12:39:19] | MythLogBot: | No match for keyword hardware |
| [12:39:24] | wagnerrp: | !url tuners |
| [12:39:24] | MythLogBot: | tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information |
| [12:40:21] | ch077179: | thx |
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| [13:01:37] | ch077179: | wagnerrp, I don't have that node, how could I get it? |
| [13:02:14] | wagnerrp: | if you dont have that device node, then your device is not being properly recognized by your system |
| [13:02:26] | wagnerrp: | check in `dmesg` to see if youre reporting any error |
| [13:02:27] | wagnerrp: | s |
| [13:02:45] | wagnerrp: | check on that page i linked you to, to make sure the linux drivers for your device even exist |
| [13:04:18] | mcl0vin: | what is the command to kill mythtv FE & BE 'killall mythtvfrontend' |
| [13:04:35] | wagnerrp: | mythtvfrontend is not the name of any application |
| [13:05:12] | mcl0vin: | mythbackend |
| [13:05:27] | wagnerrp: | mythbackend and mythfrontend |
| [13:05:37] | mcl0vin: | k |
| [13:05:44] | wagnerrp: | and depending on whether youre running mythbuntu, those may be appended with '.real.' |
| [13:05:59] | wagnerrp: | er, just the one dot |
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| [13:12:47] | ch077179: | I think I'll go for public viewing for the first game.. :) dmesg doesn't report anything on dvb... thanks+bye |
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| [13:12:52] | mcl0vin: | wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/kP4ffa0Q |
| [13:13:51] | wagnerrp: | whats that for? |
| [13:14:18] | mcl0vin: | thats from ps -ef... i am still not able to kill it |
| [13:14:35] | wagnerrp: | it looks like you killed a dozen of em |
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| [13:17:31] | mcl0vin: | but it still shows in top and ps -ef |
| [13:17:33] | mcl0vin: | ? |
| [13:18:28] | wagnerrp: | a defunct process is one that is no longer running, but for some reason has left hanging pipes preventing it from being completely culled from the system |
| [13:19:59] | mcl0vin: | aha they are zombie |
| [13:20:01] | mcl0vin: | *s |
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| [13:20:52] | mcl0vin: | *for pid in $(ps -ef | grep defunct | grep -v grep | awk '{ print $3 }'); do kill $pid; done |
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| [13:25:01] | wagnerrp: | theyre already terminted |
| [13:25:07] | wagnerrp: | you cant terminate them any further |
| [13:25:26] | mcl0vin: | that did terminate the defunct |
| [13:25:52] | mcl0vin: | http://pastebin.com/vwiQvJCb |
| [13:26:53] | wagnerrp: | additionally, `kill` can accept multiple PIDs to terminate, no need to loop |
| [13:34:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | ... and wouldn't you want that to be $2, not $3 ? 3rd argument is the parent process, no? |
| [13:36:13] | mcl0vin: | J-e-f-f-A: it is the 3rd column |
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| [13:40:31] | mzb: | ps -ef | grep -v ^\ \ \ \ root | awk '/<defunct>/ {print $2}' |
| [13:40:39] | mzb: | |
| [13:42:05] | mcl0vin: | wtf |
| [13:42:31] | mzb: | don't ask me ;) |
| [13:42:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | on my system, 2nd column is the pid, 3rd column is the pid of the PARENT process... ;-) |
| [13:42:40] | mzb: | it was the awk that interested me |
| [13:43:30] | mzb: | which could potentially remove a subshell from your pipe if I read it right |
| [13:43:38] | mcl0vin: | J-e-f-f-A: right!..because defunct are waiting for their parnets to kill them...its a hung process |
| [13:44:19] | mzb: | errr |
| [13:44:22] | mzb: | nm |
| [13:44:48] | mcl0vin: | mzb: am wrong?! |
| [13:45:10] | mzb: | what would I know? |
| [13:46:37] | mcl0vin: | dude i ain't f88king perfect , we all do && make mistakes so if i am wrong i will be happy to be corrected |
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| [13:47:46] | justinh: | my mistake is usually coming in here |
| [13:47:50] | beatbreaker: | Hiisty, need help here – http://pastebin.com/3FVtyrWS |
| [13:47:56] | beatbreaker: | I can't get mysql to start again |
| [13:48:11] | mcl0vin: | justinh: hey bud |
| [13:48:17] | mzb: | justinh, timing is everything ;) |
| [13:49:06] | beatbreaker: | chmod: cannot access `/var/run/mysql/mysqld.pid': No such file or directory |
| [13:49:18] | mzb: | mcl0vin, *automatically* killing a parent doesn't sound like a smart idea to me |
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| [13:50:19] | mcl0vin: | mzb: ok i understand. care to explain to me why is that please |
| [13:50:29] | beatbreaker: | help |
| [13:50:29] | mcl0vin: | *if you are not busy and have time |
| [13:50:51] | mcl0vin: | beatbreaker: The Help is in the boat :) |
| [13:51:14] | mcl0vin: | damn my english is getting better now .... :P |
| [13:51:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | mcl0vin: what if you had defunct mythcommflag proceses – they'd be started by mythbackend – so you just killed mythbackend with your script. |
| [13:51:48] | justinh: | beatbreaker: so the file doesn't exist, or you don't have permission to see it |
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| [13:52:04] | mzb: | I'm more inclined to believe that the parent is waiting for (possibly) a different child process to exit |
| [13:52:06] | mcl0vin: | J-e-f-f-A: well i was trying to kill everything related to mythtv |
| [13:52:21] | mzb: | pkill *mythtv* ? ;) |
| [13:52:41] | beatbreaker: | justinh, it doesn't exist – but i did a touch on it, and chowned it, then restarted mysql again and it still doesn't work |
| [13:52:42] | mcl0vin: | i am on a mission to find out why the heck my i can't get lirc to work in my system |
| [13:53:05] | justinh: | beatbreaker: so maybe mysql is falling over for some reason |
| [13:53:11] | justinh: | look in mysql's own log |
| [13:53:21] | wagnerrp: | beatbreaker: the file should not exist if mysql is not running, the directory must exist and be owned by the user mysql |
| [13:53:28] | mzb: | you certainly don't want to get to the stage were you kill an important parent (horse heads spring to mind;)) |
| [13:53:28] | mcl0vin: | beatbreaker: are you doing that from root |
| [13:53:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | justinh: maybe he needs the mysql-weeble-wobble plugin? ;-) hehehehe |
| [13:53:54] | justinh: | oh yeah |
| [13:54:06] | mzb: | sounds like a must have ;) |
| [13:54:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | "Weebles wobble but they don't fall down"... wow, that brings me back 30+ years!!! |
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| [13:54:55] | justinh: | man, I wish dns stuff updated quicker |
| [13:55:30] | mzb: | mcl0vin, automating a kill on _any_ level is just .... errr ... silly |
| [13:55:41] | mzb: | find out what the problem is in the first place |
| [13:55:50] | beatbreaker: | justinh, ok i'll look in the mysql log |
| [13:55:52] | mcl0vin: | mzb: ok i agree with you |
| [13:56:19] | mzb: | note: I _assume_ you're automating ... I'm not taking into account that you might be too lazy to kill each child slowly ;) |
| [13:56:19] | beatbreaker: | mcl0vin, yes from root, and chowning everyting needed |
| [13:56:29] | mzb: | (and individually!) |
| [13:56:50] | ** mzb shoots one of his rabid penguins ** | |
| [13:57:37] | mzb: | now if I'd automated that, I might have accidentally killed them all just because they caught a cold! |
| [13:57:50] | mzb: | *tragedy waiting to happen* ;) |
| [13:58:05] | ** justinh doesn't even like penguins ** | |
| [13:58:17] | ** mzb shoots justinh in the foot ;) ** | |
| [13:58:19] | wagnerrp: | all the more reason to shoot them all |
| [13:58:20] | justinh: | especially ones drawn to look like they have special needs like Tux |
| [13:58:26] | mzb: | (with a sharp trout) |
| [13:59:02] | mcl0vin: | lolololol |
| [13:59:10] | mcl0vin: | mzb: i get the point |
| [13:59:16] | mzb: | :) |
| [13:59:53] | ** mzb shoves a fresh kipper down mcl0vin 's pants ** | |
| [13:59:58] | beatbreaker: | http://pastebin.com/RPccZH2V |
| [14:00:24] | beatbreaker: | can i just delete /usr/sbin/mysqld ??? |
| [14:00:29] | justinh: | can anybody smell fish? |
| [14:00:42] | justinh: | beatbreaker: what?! NO! |
| [14:01:03] | mzb: | my firewall includes "SmellGuard"(TM) |
| [14:01:15] | beatbreaker: | it takes up 20gig |
| [14:01:31] | justinh: | beatbreaker: the partition where mysql data is stored, is full |
| [14:01:50] | beatbreaker: | i see |
| [14:01:51] | justinh: | probably /var/lib/mysql |
| [14:02:15] | justinh: | er.. I mean that /var/lib/mysql is on the same partition which has no free space |
| [14:02:19] | justinh: | so free up some space |
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| [14:02:26] | justinh: | the 'du' command is your friend |
| [14:02:49] | mzb: | -h for "human readable" |
| [14:02:50] | beatbreaker: | yeah i'm doing all that it's actually all in / |
| [14:03:07] | justinh: | fyi your actual database is probably screwed beyond salvation by now |
| [14:03:08] | beatbreaker: | the mythtv and all other media is mouted on /media directory |
| [14:03:27] | beatbreaker: | great |
| [14:03:33] | mzb: | lvm is a handy thing to learn |
| [14:03:34] | justinh: | so I hope you've got a backup of the mythconverg database somewhere |
| [14:03:46] | beatbreaker: | I've got everything in LVM, jsut not / |
| [14:04:10] | mzb: | ok ... make a LVM partition for /var |
| [14:04:12] | justinh: | if you've not.. when you get it all going again the next thing you should do is get the database backing itself up regularly |
| [14:04:27] | mzb: | (and/or portions of it) |
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| [14:04:35] | mcl0vin: | one here used spinrite before |
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| [14:05:04] | justinh: | snakeoil ? |
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| [14:05:42] | mcl0vin: | no spinrite |
| [14:05:51] | mzb: | *cackle* |
| [14:06:07] | mzb: | *hic* |
| [14:06:21] | mcl0vin: | spinrite....made by Steve Gibson the guy the wrote zonealarm |
| [14:06:36] | mzb: | err ... nm |
| [14:06:49] | sid3windr: | gibson wrote zonealarm? :P |
| [14:06:59] | mcl0vin: | yep |
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| [14:07:11] | mzb: | yes, know what spinrite is ... no never used it ... no don't run windows! |
| [14:07:22] | justinh: | sounds like snakeoil though |
| [14:07:38] | sid3windr: | mcl0vin: news to me. |
| [14:07:38] | sid3windr: | :) |
| [14:07:46] | justinh: | all the "muh, my hardware was failing but this program saved all my data!" guff |
| [14:07:56] | mcl0vin: | mzb: what have spinrite to do with M$ |
| [14:08:10] | mcl0vin: | justinh: hahahahahah |
| [14:08:22] | mzb: | he specialises in windows tools and holes |
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| [14:08:36] | sid3windr: | mostly his own hole though :P |
| [14:08:41] | mcl0vin: | sid3windr: yep |
| [14:08:46] | mzb: | iirc he wrote what eventually became ... err .. that script detector thing ... which got bought out and the name changed to ... |
| [14:08:59] | mzb: | m |
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| [14:09:22] | mzb: | nope ... too old ... alcohol must have taken those brain cells years ago |
| [14:09:39] | mcl0vin: | roflmao @ mzb |
| [14:09:47] | mzb: | != zonealarm |
| [14:10:35] | mzb: | but then, I have no idea how far the alcohol rot has reached, so perhaps I'm wrong? |
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| [14:11:44] | devinheitmueller: | He did some interesting stuff in the early 1990's (I used his Spinrite tool to recover some floppies). But since then he's gone nuts. |
| [14:12:08] | devinheitmueller: | He's the guy who said the Internet was being threatened by the fact that Windows XP allowed you to send arbitrary packets onto the network. |
| [14:12:13] | mcl0vin: | mzb: in one thing thu..the windows shit |
| [14:12:41] | mcl0vin: | its in assembly lang and it fix HDD regardless of which OS |
| [14:12:45] | mzb: | XP? gee ... didn't realise he'd evolved that far ;) |
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| [14:13:14] | mcl0vin: | it hit the HDD before grub |
| [14:13:45] | mzb: | *sigh* |
| [14:13:49] | ** mzb feels old ** | |
| [14:13:54] | beatbreaker: | ok everything stuffed in is /var/lib/mysql |
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| [14:14:04] | mzb: | (for the 2nd time in the last 5 minutes) |
| [14:14:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | mzb: Hey, we're about the same age! ;-) |
| [14:14:13] | beatbreaker: | can i just delete these mysql-bin.000005 ?? |
| [14:14:47] | bjd: | if you are not doing MySQL replication you should disable it in my.cnf |
| [14:14:54] | mcl0vin: | ok folks , getting ready to get off work....happy Friday to all of you |
| [14:14:55] | bjd: | should be a log-bin line in that file |
| [14:14:57] | beatbreaker: | I don't know what you mean |
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| [14:16:54] | mzb: | J-e-f-f-A, funny that ... and I'm guessing the houses we live in are about the same too! |
| [14:17:04] | beatbreaker: | can i just delete those files? |
| [14:17:15] | beatbreaker: | log-bin=mysql-bin |
| [14:17:44] | justinh: | beatbreaker: are they what's taking up all your / partition space? |
| [14:17:52] | beatbreaker: | yes |
| [14:18:20] | beatbreaker: | what are they? useless backups or something?? |
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| [14:19:58] | mzb: | mysql backup logs ... can be used to rewind (catastrophic!) errors ... afaik |
| [14:20:19] | mzb: | what distro are you running? |
| [14:20:24] | mzb: | (and version) |
| [14:20:31] | beatbreaker: | so I can delete the old ones at least, there's stuff there that's probably 6 months old |
| [14:20:36] | beatbreaker: | SuSE 11.2 |
| [14:20:40] | beatbreaker: | 64 bit |
| [14:20:46] | mzb: | hmm |
| [14:21:01] | mzb: | disable the logging, then delete (I think) |
| [14:21:11] | mzb: | _but_ |
| [14:21:13] | beatbreaker: | in my.cnf ? |
| [14:21:21] | mzb: | make sure you've got a good copy first |
| [14:21:30] | mzb: | yeah, probably |
| [14:21:34] | beatbreaker: | this was all working 100% before |
| [14:22:12] | beatbreaker: | # binary logging is required for replication |
| [14:22:13] | beatbreaker: | ?? |
| [14:22:34] | mzb: | alternatively ... you might check "binlog_ignore_db" in my.cnf |
| [14:22:36] | beatbreaker: | what should i turn off |
| [14:22:48] | mzb: | 100% before what? |
| [14:23:05] | beatbreaker: | the full hard drive happened |
| [14:23:21] | beatbreaker: | so all the config aside fron this was ok |
| [14:23:51] | mzb: | err ... yeah ... but have a think about why your root has filled up |
| [14:24:06] | mzb: | the mysql bin logs are a contributing factor |
| [14:24:11] | beatbreaker: | it's because of the files in /var/lib/mysql |
| [14:24:27] | beatbreaker: | there'd be 10Gig free otherwise |
| [14:24:36] | BLZbubba: | good morning |
| [14:24:37] | beatbreaker: | there's only a 20 gig partiton for / |
| [14:24:51] | beatbreaker: | the rest is mounted all over ther place |
| [14:25:04] | mzb: | so you've done a "# du -shmx /*" and determined that the mysql dir is the offender? |
| [14:25:07] | beatbreaker: | but maybe i'll put /var/lib/ in a lvm too |
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| [14:25:21] | mzb: | that sounds like a reasonable idea |
| [14:25:31] | beatbreaker: | i did a simple df -h |
| [14:25:34] | beatbreaker: | then du -h |
| [14:26:14] | beatbreaker: | can i delete those mysql-bin.000001 |
| [14:26:15] | beatbreaker: | files and have no bad effects? |
| [14:26:46] | mzb: | um ... like I said, make sure you've got a good working copy (and a backup) first |
| [14:27:08] | mzb: | you *can* recover from a bad db with those files (afaik) |
| [14:27:44] | beatbreaker: | ok so then i'll just move them to where there's more space... then start it up again, see how that goes.. and move them back if things don't work |
| [14:27:56] | beatbreaker: | but are they databases... or are they just backups? |
| [14:28:26] | mzb: | neither ... they're bin logs ... do some research |
| [14:28:36] | mzb: | and I thought 10GB for root was being extravagant |
| [14:28:52] | beatbreaker: | well it's come in handy this time |
| [14:29:06] | justinh: | mzb: depends if your mysql data is stored there & whether or not you've enabled binary logging ;) |
| [14:29:15] | mzb: | beatbreaker, by delaying the inevitable? |
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| [14:29:32] | mzb: | justinh, isn't that what he said they were? |
| [14:29:42] | mzb: | <beatbreaker> log-bin=mysql-bin |
| [14:29:50] | justinh: | yeah that's what I mean |
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| [14:30:06] | justinh: | if your / is that small you've got to be careful of it not getting full or stuff will break |
| [14:30:19] | mzb: | 20GB is small? |
| [14:30:26] | beatbreaker: | mzb, i also used X on this before too |
| [14:30:37] | justinh: | depends whether everything is all on the one partition or not doesn't it |
| [14:30:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | justinh: — You forgot the (TM) after "Stuff will break (TM)" ;-) |
| [14:30:58] | beatbreaker: | either way |
| [14:31:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | hehehehe |
| [14:31:08] | justinh: | like if you're a torrent addict and your /home/user/downloads is on / too |
| [14:31:22] | mzb: | I've got a MBE+FE on 10GB ... the only other mount points are for storage/recordings/video/etc |
| [14:31:52] | justinh: | my / partition is smallish too – but I was careful where I put dirs likely to get a lot of stuff in em |
| [14:32:07] | justinh: | /dev/sda1 47G 18G 27G 40% / |
| [14:32:16] | beatbreaker: | so am i connenting out log-bin=mysql-bin |
| [14:32:16] | beatbreaker: | ?? |
| [14:32:32] | mzb: | alternatively ... you might check "binlog_ignore_db" in my.cnf |
| [14:32:48] | beatbreaker: | this is how it stands now http://paste.pocoo.org/show/224275/ |
| [14:32:59] | justinh: | woohoo. weekend starts here! |
| [14:34:27] | mzb: | http://crazytoon.com/2008/04/21/mysql-replica . . . e-by-choice/ |
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| [14:36:09] | beatbreaker: | yay it works – the soccer is back on! |
| [14:37:10] | mzb: | and I came here to avoid the blood and sweat ;) |
| [14:37:42] | mzb: | still ... it's past pumpkin hour ... |
| [14:49:33] | beatbreaker: | ok found it , i need expire_logs_days = X |
| [14:49:33] | beatbreaker: | http://systembash.com/content/mysql-binary-log-file-size-huge/ |
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| [15:40:40] | ** justinh wishes England were out of the World Cup Of Soccer already :-\ ** | |
| [15:40:58] | iamlindoro: | We'll help you with that tomorrow |
| [15:41:14] | justinh: | :) |
| [15:41:57] | justinh: | man, my spf records still haven't trickled down yet. Yay for internet redundancy etc |
| [15:42:24] | ewait: | I have a Hauppauge 2250 in a 10.04 machine, it will not find any ATSC channels. I have another card installed and it finds all the channels just fine. Help please. |
| [15:42:49] | wagnerrp: | wasnt there some issue with the LNA not turning on on that card? |
| [15:42:56] | justinh: | maybe you split the cable one too many times :) |
| [15:43:26] | justinh: | I found that even with a very strong signal from my aerial I couldn't just split more than twice – I had to use an amplified splitter |
| [15:43:29] | ewait: | There is only on split and a booster on the line |
| [15:43:39] | justinh: | boost then split |
| [15:43:54] | ewait: | correct, boosted then split |
| [15:44:15] | ewait: | the booster is about 2m or 6ft away from the antenna |
| [15:44:17] | justinh: | that's ok then. so your problem may not be signal level – but I'd try swapping cables across anyway |
| [15:44:39] | justinh: | check the easy things first |
| [15:44:50] | ewait: | k, I will try to change the cables now, brb |
| [15:49:36] | ewait: | bypassed the splitter all together for debugging purposes. scanning now |
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| [16:01:46] | ewait: | sorry to waste your time. I was trouble shooting this machine with 9.04 last week and must have left the cable attached to the wrong port (FM). It looks like it is finding probable channels now even through the splitter. Thanks anyway. |
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| [16:02:12] | iamlindoro: | s/9.04/Ubuntu 9.04/ |
| [16:02:34] | ** iamlindoro reminds our home audience that Ubuntu is not the only linux distro, and not even the only distro that uses that numbering scheme ;) ** | |
| [16:02:57] | justinh: | ewait: heheh. made you look ! :-) |
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| [16:03:14] | wagnerrp: | what else uses year.month, and releases in april and october? |
| [16:03:33] | ewait: | justinh, some times it helps just to say your problem out loud for a solution to come up. |
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| [16:06:46] | justinh: | hrmph. gonna be some time before I fix this stupid email issue |
| [16:07:20] | justinh: | too much to expect a hosting reseller to make all this crap transparent to end users huh |
| [16:07:36] | justinh: | and here goes another valuable lesson learned |
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| [18:14:22] | piper69: | howdy folks |
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| [18:14:41] | piper69: | after i did an update on my system, mythtv crashed |
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| [18:15:54] | piper69: | whenever i start mythtv now , i say "No UPnP backend found" |
| [18:25:12] | esperegu: | can I use vlc to stream from mythtv 'server'? |
| [18:25:14] | kormoc: | so restart the backend? |
| [18:25:32] | kormoc: | esperegu, recordings are just files, so do what you wish |
| [18:26:10] | esperegu: | kormoc: no. I mean from life dvb |
| [18:26:38] | wagnerrp: | live dvb? |
| [18:26:57] | wagnerrp: | no, VLC does not understand myth's streaming protocol |
| [18:26:58] | esperegu: | wagnerrp: real time. |
| [18:27:07] | esperegu: | from dvb-s |
| [18:27:18] | wagnerrp: | from myth, it doesnt matter what source |
| [18:27:25] | esperegu: | with vdr you can just do a http://IP/TS/XX |
| [18:27:31] | esperegu: | where x is the channel number. |
| [18:27:42] | esperegu: | I hoped mythtv had something simular |
| [18:27:46] | esperegu: | does it? |
| [18:27:51] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [18:27:56] | kormoc: | esperegu, it's upto VLC to implement that, not up to us |
| [18:28:16] | esperegu: | kormoc: vdr just makes the stream available over http |
| [18:28:22] | esperegu: | that should be possible I gues? |
| [18:28:30] | esperegu: | so every player could be used |
| [18:28:34] | iamlindoro: | anything is possible when someone writes a patch |
| [18:29:34] | kormoc: | Even ponies! |
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| [18:30:39] | iamlindoro: | especially ponies |
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| [18:31:13] | esperegu: | I just thought that since mythtv is more complete and complex it would do that also. np. thx |
| [18:34:16] | kormoc: | we have a much more complete and complex streaming protocol, tis all |
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| [18:45:26] | wagnerrp: | actually, mythtv will transmit recordings over http |
| [18:45:33] | wagnerrp: | it just wont do it for livetv |
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| [18:46:23] | wagnerrp: | http://<backend>:6544/Myth/GetRecording . . . tarttime> |
| [18:46:36] | wagnerrp: | starttime being in standard ISO format |
| [18:46:46] | iamlindoro: | right, but that's a download, correct? Not an HTTP stream |
| [18:47:06] | iamlindoro: | I was under the impression that there were header differences between a download and a progressive playback |
| [18:47:09] | wagnerrp: | is there a difference? |
| [18:47:18] | wagnerrp: | i mean thats whats used by UPNP players |
| [18:47:26] | wagnerrp: | which can skip around within the recording |
| [18:47:37] | iamlindoro: | I'll defer, sounds like you know better than I |
| [18:47:39] | kormoc: | the players hit the EOF and then restart with a offset (if they're smart) |
| [18:47:51] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, he wanted to watch live tv from myth via http |
| [18:49:28] | wagnerrp: | right, its only for recordings, not livetv |
| [18:50:17] | kormoc: | it's too bad all our times are not unix timestamps |
| [18:51:13] | wagnerrp: | how would that make anything different? |
| [18:51:45] | kormoc: | I find it a lot easier then trying to format our iso times |
| [18:51:48] | kormoc: | *format out |
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| [18:52:38] | wagnerrp: | oh, i just do '.isoformat()' |
| [18:55:22] | wagnerrp: | the only thing that really bothers me is the overlap between progstart/starttime/recstartts |
| [18:56:48] | kormoc: | yeah, that's annoying |
| [18:57:02] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, unixtimestamps are also timezone/DST agnostic, and I like that |
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| [19:00:36] | wagnerrp: | yeah, there was a discussion about this yesterday (wednesday?) |
| [19:00:53] | wagnerrp: | beirdo actually wants to take on the task to convert everything to something |
| [19:00:58] | wagnerrp: | i had suggested epochtime |
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| [19:09:18] | wagnerrp: | ooh... threading in roundcubemail |
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| [19:16:12] | sid3windr: | how do you rescan your video collection in .23 ? |
| [19:16:24] | wagnerrp: | same way you did it in 0.22 |
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| [19:16:30] | sid3windr: | yes, except I never used .22 |
| [19:16:31] | wagnerrp: | try to take over the world |
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| [19:16:43] | sid3windr: | I come from 0.21 but .. :P |
| [19:16:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | sid3windr: "M", "Scan for changes" |
| [19:16:56] | wagnerrp: | go into mythvideo, and then what J-e-f-f-A said |
| [19:16:58] | sid3windr: | haha |
| [19:17:02] | sid3windr: | I'm SO blind |
| [19:17:10] | sid3windr: | because I actually typed m and looked in the menu |
| [19:17:14] | sid3windr: | but apparently missed the first option :| |
| [19:17:16] | sid3windr: | thanks |
| [19:17:24] | sid3windr: | I'll make an optician appointment next monday =) |
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| [19:35:16] | [R]: | howcome when I delete a recording from the watch recordings menu it disapears for a second and then repears and then like a few seconds later it disapears again... is there a setting i have wrong somewhere? |
| [19:37:43] | justinh: | no but maybe your database is being a little slow |
| [19:39:24] | [R]: | why would it disapear and come back? |
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| [19:45:33] | [R]: | woohoo, found another bug |
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| [20:03:03] | justinh: | [R]: probably due to the way deletes are handled. check your database |
| [20:04:22] | [R]: | it looks like when i have 3 recordings showing, deleting 1 is instantenous... but if its the last recording, i see that behavior |
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| [20:06:42] | justinh: | one delete is no different to another |
| [20:06:57] | marc_us: | I had this delete problem once. It was a permissions issue. |
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| [20:07:16] | marc_us: | mythtv must be the owner of the directory |
| [20:07:28] | marc_us: | or so it seemed |
| [20:07:38] | marc_us: | anyhow, that solved it for me |
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| [20:08:15] | [R]: | it does delete the file |
| [20:08:22] | [R]: | its just the ui doesnt' update right away |
| [20:10:23] | justinh: | like I said. maybe your db is slow |
| [20:10:46] | [R]: | ok, i'll play around with it |
| [20:12:47] | marc_us: | Oh! sorry then. Right solution to the wrong problem! :) |
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| [20:16:16] | ** justinh goes back to trying to fix his stupid email ** | |
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| [21:01:21] | bjd: | Hm |
| [21:01:38] | bjd: | could have swore the fbsd port maintainer was going to upgrade to .23 |
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| [21:15:15] | justinh: | gah. stupid. bloomin. hosting. grrr |
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| [21:17:06] | esperegu: | anyone knows why mythtv might not switch to the 4th LNB on dvb-s? I added a switch and 4 lnb's in theconfiguration |
| [21:17:19] | esperegu: | (I started on the 4th since there is a channel I want to see) |
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| [21:22:16] | esperegu: | well. fresh start tomorrow... bye! |
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| [21:26:30] | piper69: | is there a way that mythbuntu grab coverart based on movie title |
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| [21:26:53] | piper69: | or a plugin |
| [21:27:04] | [R]: | piper69: jamu or mythvideo does that... |
| [21:27:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | piper69: Sure, press W while in mythvideo |
| [21:27:23] | piper69: | [R]: are these plugins |
| [21:27:31] | piper69: | that is cap W |
| [21:27:45] | [R]: | oh wait... are you talking about a movie you recorded? |
| [21:28:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | piper69: I don't recall if it has to be upper-case or not – afmb (away from myth box...) ;-) |
| [21:28:14] | piper69: | [R]: no , about something i have downloaded |
| [21:28:30] | [R]: | hit m in "watch videos"... the menu si full of options |
| [21:28:31] | piper69: | afmb lol |
| [21:28:34] | [R]: | i suggest yo ualso read the documentation |
| [21:29:02] | [R]: | actually i think its in the info screen |
| [21:29:03] | [R]: | either way |
| [21:29:10] | ** [R] points back up to what he said about the documetnation ** | |
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| [21:34:27] | piper69: | hmmm mythtv is not playing any of my avi movies hmmmm |
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| [21:34:47] | [R]: | what does the frontend log say |
| [21:35:42] | piper69: | tail /var/logs/mythtv/mythfrontend |
| [21:35:46] | piper69: | oppps |
| [21:36:47] | piper69: | http://pastebin.com/PThdpyZ1 |
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| [21:38:10] | [R]: | and the backend log |
| [21:38:10] | piper69: | [R]: how can i go about fixing this |
| [21:38:19] | piper69: | 1 sec please |
| [21:39:39] | piper69: | http://pastebin.com/LzkEsbax |
| [21:40:08] | piper69: | aha permission |
| [21:43:02] | piper69: | ok now i learned something new ... thanks [R] |
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| [21:57:39] | piper69: | 2010-06–11 14:56:22.698 Unable to contact themoviedb.org while retrieving movie list, stopped at /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/tmdb.pl line 329. |
| [21:59:13] | iamlindoro: | So the TMDB API is down, or your connection to it is |
| [21:59:28] | iamlindoro: | as an aside, tmdb.pl is no longer supported |
| [21:59:37] | iamlindoro: | if you're on .23, you should not be using it |
| [22:00:06] | piper69: | i am still .22 |
| [22:00:15] | piper69: | what shall i use then please |
| [22:00:28] | iamlindoro: | If you're on .22, you are using what you should be using |
| [22:00:41] | iamlindoro: | but .22 is not longer a supported release, so... |
| [22:00:42] | piper69: | good except it is broken |
| [22:00:46] | piper69: | :) |
| [22:00:48] | iamlindoro: | no, it's not |
| [22:01:12] | iamlindoro: | If you want support, though, then you should run a current MythTV release |
| [22:01:39] | iamlindoro: | tmdb.pl does not even exist any more in the current myth release |
| [22:02:16] | piper69: | classic |
| [22:02:41] | piper69: | so i will have to upgrade the whole 9 yard just so i can fix a perl script |
| [22:02:47] | piper69: | hmmmm.... |
| [22:02:53] | iamlindoro: | again, there is nothing wrong with the perl script |
| [22:03:10] | iamlindoro: | the message merely indicates that the API version it contacts to pull metadata is not accessible from your connection |
| [22:03:25] | iamlindoro: | so either your connection has problems, or the TMDB 1.0 API does |
| [22:03:28] | iamlindoro: | the script is fine |
| [22:04:10] | iamlindoro: | But as you are not on a current version of myth, and the script in question does not exist, and the current release uses both a different script and a different API, it's going to be problematic to provide you any help |
| [22:04:39] | piper69: | i get you |
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| [22:19:24] | seagullarity: | I actually cant find this on the forums...."ProgramInfo(): Updated pathname filename" repeats like ten times before playing LiveTV....is that a harmless log report? |
| [22:20:28] | justinh: | what forums? |
| [22:20:42] | justinh: | we don't support no stinkin forums here |
| [22:21:05] | sid3windr: | maybe that's why he can't find it! |
| [22:22:09] | seagullarity: | i meant searching forums on google =) |
| [22:22:37] | justinh: | so now I decided to try sending mail by smtp from my domain... it gets through. gah. stupid php mail |
| [22:22:53] | seagullarity: | I've seen it show up in other peoples logs, repeating ten times in a row....doesnt seem like a problem |
| [22:23:11] | seagullarity: | ive got it sometimes forty times in a row |
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| [22:24:48] | Cervera: | hey, i have a problem that i didn't manage to solve yet... i need to use an xmltv grabber that exists only in the latest version of xmltv 0.5.57. problem is i have no clue how to update to this version |
| [22:25:14] | justinh: | so uninstall the xmltv package & grab a nightly build from xmltv.org |
| [22:25:15] | Cervera: | or maybe better: just download the new grabber into the existing version... |
| [22:25:35] | Cervera: | justinh: i don't know how to do that |
| [22:25:39] | justinh: | you can't have 'maybe better' if you seek a sensible solution |
| [22:25:44] | justinh: | they tell you how |
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| [22:28:26] | justinh: | OI! No unsolicited MSGs |
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| [22:29:16] | justinh: | common decency to *ask* before MSGing folks |
| [22:29:23] | Cervera: | sorry man |
| [22:29:41] | justinh: | or some antsy people will add you to their ignore list.. like I do |
| [22:30:55] | Cervera: | justinh: listen man... i |
| [22:30:59] | Cervera: | 'm new here |
| [22:31:09] | Cervera: | don't know about no private message rules |
| [22:32:00] | Cervera: | if you have a problem, say it, don't atart talking about using ignore lists... |
| [22:32:14] | Cervera: | a little respect for newcomers |
| [22:33:21] | Cervera: | all i wanted is not to flood the main channel... |
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| [22:36:32] | kormoc: | Cervera, you didn't pick up on him feeling private messages was the problem? |
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| [22:37:32] | Cervera: | didn't know querying someone to prevent exess text in main channel was a problem |
| [22:38:28] | Cervera: | I'll start the question again, hope i won't annoy anyone by repeating myself: |
| [22:38:29] | Cervera: | I'm using mythtv for the first time, first time on linux too. up untill recently there was no xmltv grabber for listings in my country, meaning i had to use and external app. now i saw that there's an update in the xmltv.org site with a new grabber, only it's not packed yet. i've been told that a solution was to use nightly builds. what is nightly builds and how do i use it? |
| [22:40:33] | jarle: | Cervera: there is no EIT for you channels? EIT is easier to use than xmltv.. |
| [22:40:48] | Cervera: | EIT? |
| [22:41:08] | kormoc: | Cervera, what country and capture type are you using? |
| [22:41:10] | jarle: | Cervera: program guide over dvb-s or dvb-t |
| [22:41:33] | Cervera: | oh!. no EIT, using analog capture pgr-150 |
| [22:41:35] | Cervera: | pvr |
| [22:41:41] | Cervera: | hauppage. |
| [22:42:16] | Cervera: | only thing that works in israel is site grabbers |
| [22:42:58] | kormoc: | Cervera, what distro? |
| [22:43:05] | Cervera: | mythbuntu |
| [22:43:25] | jarle: | Cervera: then just download the latest xmltv from xmltv.org as justinh said |
| [22:43:31] | kormoc: | Cervera, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xmltv |
| [22:43:37] | kormoc: | you should be able to use those I'd imagine |
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| [22:45:05] | Cervera: | ah! dew packages! (unlless i missed them) i was sure packages there were both unstable for .57 version! |
| [22:45:15] | Cervera: | new ^^ |
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| [22:47:33] | Cervera: | what about nightly builds? whats that about? |
| [22:48:03] | kormoc: | they're just builds done nightly |
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| [22:49:04] | Cervera: | should i register? if so how? AND what's better – "testing" or "unstable, since those are my package choices? |
| [22:55:15] | justinh: | well that was a whole day of messing about I could've avoided by installing one wordpress plugin. Gah. My brain hurts |
| [22:59:40] | kormoc: | Cervera, I don't know, I don't know, and I don't know |
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| [23:00:33] | justinh: | it's only xmltv for pity's sakes |
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| [23:01:13] | justinh: | though be warned with the nightly builds – or infact any install of xmltv from 'source' you can be left with the 'fun' of trying to satisfy perl dependencies |
| [23:01:45] | Cervera: | justinh: that's what i want not to get into |
| [23:01:56] | piper69: | so no support for TMDb APT for 0.22.0+fixes22594 |
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| [23:02:24] | justinh: | Cervera: heh nobody ever *wants* to use CPAN |
| [23:02:30] | justinh: | well, no sane person I know |
| [23:03:05] | Cervera: | well, i'm trying do use the packages in the debian site, but my distro doesn't seem to like them. and yeah, it's only xmltv. problem is that it's the only listing i can use, meaning for now my mythtv is usless untill i manage to install the new version |
| [23:03:36] | justinh: | perl dependencies generally aren't so bad |
| [23:03:52] | justinh: | just keep running make test, stab CPAN a bit.. rinse and repeat |
| [23:04:55] | Cervera: | wait wait wait... i'm trying to use packaged versions. not compile by myelf, THAT i don't know how to do. (i didn't even manage to get to the readme file :C ) |
| [23:05:14] | justinh: | xmltv is just make test, and a couple of commands |
| [23:05:24] | justinh: | I dunno why people are so scared of building from source |
| [23:05:26] | kormoc: | Cervera, it's all perl, there's no compiling involved... |
| [23:05:31] | justinh: | it isn't brain surgery |
| [23:05:58] | Cervera: | because people (like me) are gates victims.... got used to be fed with a teaspoon |
| [23:06:05] | Lexridge: | Okay fellas, I finally got mythtv 0.23 installed. However, not without some really interesting problems. |
| [23:06:27] | justinh: | Cervera: come now. double-clicking on setup.exe is still beyond a lot of people |
| [23:06:31] | Lexridge: | 1. It takes almost 5 minutes for a recorded program to start playing |
| [23:06:46] | bjd: | 5 mins !? |
| [23:06:53] | Lexridge: | 2. It takes nearly 10 minutes for a xvid file on the drive to start playing |
| [23:07:08] | Lexridge: | and 3. Live TV never plays, or times out. |
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| [23:07:18] | kormoc: | Lexridge, so the logs tell you the issue is? |
| [23:08:18] | Lexridge: | that is the strange thing, there are no apparent errors in the backend log |
| [23:08:33] | kormoc: | and you increased log verbosity and found? |
| [23:08:55] | Lexridge: | Oh, found an error. mpeg2video @ 0x10c38e0]mpeg_decode_postinit() failure |
| [23:10:15] | Lexridge: | oh, and also, it takes nearly 5 minutes for the frontend to get off the blue screen, and show me the menu too when I first start it. |
| [23:11:09] | justinh: | something tells me you didn't just upgrade mythtv there |
| [23:11:57] | Lexridge: | yea, that was all I did. I had to compile it, as I have an old dist. |
| [23:12:09] | kormoc: | and the frontend logs tell you? |
| [23:12:52] | Lexridge: | but the long frontend startup times started randomly with 0.22 |
| [23:13:01] | Lexridge: | Frontend log has the same error: [mpeg2video @ 0xb6f0cce0]mpeg_decode_postinit() failure |
| [23:13:24] | kormoc: | I bet if you increased the verbosity of the logs, they'll tell you more useful info |
| [23:13:36] | Lexridge: | what is the switch to do that, kormoc? |
| [23:13:55] | Lexridge: | can I just give it a command line option? |
| [23:14:04] | kormoc: | I wouldn't know offhand, but it's covered in the help output and on the wiki |
| [23:14:09] | Lexridge: | okay |
| [23:14:41] | Lexridge: | This all started after I kept getting failures in compiling, with a "Check Hardware" error. Doh!! |
| [23:14:58] | Lexridge: | Well, I checked the backend hardware, and sure enough, dead CPU fan. |
| [23:15:12] | Lexridge: | that has been replaced, and it compiled without a hitch after that. |
| [23:15:38] | Lexridge: | I had just picked it up where it left off, but had tons of bad object files. |
| [23:15:46] | Lexridge: | so I had to do a make clean and start from scratch. |
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| [23:16:30] | Lexridge: | I would think if the CPU were damaged from the heat, I would see it elsewhere |
| [23:17:14] | Lexridge: | oh, could the database upgrade just be hogging the backend? |
| [23:17:31] | kormoc: | if the database is updating, then it shouldn't allow you to access myth |
| [23:17:57] | Lexridge: | okay, and the htop shows the CPU at onluy 11% |
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| [23:19:24] | Lexridge: | that is on the backend, btw |
| [23:20:47] | Lexridge: | hummm, it is also looking for PulseAudio on the frontend, and I have no pulse instead. It even told me on the configure that pulse was not available. Wonder why its looking for it? |
| [23:20:58] | Lexridge: | no pulse installed, that is |
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| [23:21:51] | Lexridge: | I will get some more verbose logs, and get back to you on it. thank you for the tips. |
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