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pyther: |
Does anyone have a recommendation on a good player that can play asx stream files in Windows? |
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achew22: |
asx is a playlist I think |
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achew22: |
I think it is an XML file that has an entry that links to the mpeg stream of the recording |
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Beirdo: |
pyther: yeah. It's called "Windows Media Player" |
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Beirdo: |
jeez. so off topic :) |
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pyther: |
Beirdo: windows media player is way to slow :( |
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Beirdo: |
oh well |
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pyther: |
I can play the stream using mplayer or xine without a problem (so I don't think it is a speed/network topic) |
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pyther: |
Beirdo: not really, mythweb provides asx files |
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pyther: |
I want to play them in windows :P |
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Slashy: |
Hello |
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Slashy: |
I have a few questions |
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Slashy: |
I was thinking about building a mythTV box for my parents to replace their old TiVO |
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Slashy: |
Can mythTV receive information about upcoming shows like TiVo can? |
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wagnerrp: |
yes, mythtv is fairly useless without such guide data |
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Slashy: |
Oh |
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Slashy: |
My father asked |
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Slashy: |
Could the database that you guys use for MythTV get showtimes a few weeks in advance? |
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pyther: |
Slashy: depends on who provides the data |
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wagnerrp: |
in north america, schedules direct provides you data for the next two weeks |
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Slashy: |
What is commonly used? |
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pyther: |
schedule direct can provide data for about 2 weeks in advance |
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Slashy: |
Oh |
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iamlindoro: |
But as you're in the US and would be using schedules direct, yes, you would get two weeks |
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Slashy: |
Great |
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pyther: |
Slashy: though scheduling might not be as easy as tivo |
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Slashy: |
How so? |
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Slashy: |
Or better yet |
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Slashy: |
Would it be easy enough that I could teach my somewhat tech savvy father how to do it |
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wagnerrp: |
with the guides available online, yes |
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wagnerrp: |
XMLTV grabbers can be a pain, but SD is fairly easy to use |
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Slashy: |
Okay |
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Slashy: |
Just wondering |
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pyther: |
Slashy: it isn't hard, but things are kinda awkward |
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pyther: |
you kinda really have to have a good understanding |
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pyther: |
it not hard to learn, but for an older person it might be |
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Slashy: |
Can something like MythDora use a remote |
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Slashy: |
Maybe even bluetooth |
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pyther: |
I wouldn't even attempt to teach my grandmother how to use myth (for recording) |
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wagnerrp: |
infrared/lirc is the most common means of controlling mythtv |
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Slashy: |
Oh |
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Beirdo: |
Slashy: you sould likely go read :) |
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Slashy: |
Well thanks for the info |
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Slashy: |
When I'm ready to build my own myth box I'll come back |
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Beirdo: |
there's a lot of info available, and it'll go a lot smoother after ya read about it |
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Beirdo: |
heh |
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Beirdo: |
some people just need to RTFM |
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Beirdo: |
mmm, bacon |
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pyther: |
Gah, it sinks that the streaming won't work well in windows :( |
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pyther: |
if I play the same video from a samba share there is no problem |
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Beirdo: |
then play it from samba |
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pyther: |
Beirdo: well as far as I know there is no way to prevent myth from shutting down when playing from a samba share |
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Beirdo: |
wha? |
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pyther: |
so I was trying to eliminate the step of locking the shutdown |
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Beirdo: |
myth has nothing to do with samba |
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Beirdo: |
two totally separate applications |
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pyther: |
yes I know this |
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pyther: |
but i have myth set to shutdown the box after 15 minutes of inactivity |
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Beirdo: |
I see. |
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wagnerrp: |
pyther: what version of windows are you running? |
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pyther: |
when using samaba I have to lock the shutdown, so it dosen't shutdown while someone is watching a recording from the samba share |
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pyther: |
wagnerrp: xp |
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Beirdo: |
it's like when the guy says to the doctor "it hurts when I do this" |
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Beirdo: |
and the doctor replies "So stop doing it" |
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pyther: |
Beirdo: I fail to see what you are trying to get at? |
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Beirdo: |
just stop shutting down, wouldn't that fix the "problem"? |
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Slashy: |
I'm sorry |
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Slashy: |
One more question |
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pyther: |
Well it would, but then it would create the problem that the machine stays on 24/7 or at least a lot longer than it needs to be on. Which results it getting yelled at all the time and eventually I would lose my myth box |
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Slashy: |
Can I get season pass stuff like I can on TiVo? |
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wagnerrp: |
season pass? |
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kormoc: |
pyther, so figure out why it doesn't work to stream to your windows box and fix it? |
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Slashy: |
You can get every upcoming episode of a television series automatically recorded |
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Beirdo: |
pyther: fun stuff |
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kormoc: |
Slashy, yes, you can |
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pyther: |
Slashy: well that would depend on your cable/sat box |
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Slashy: |
My parents want jeopardy recorded every day |
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kormoc: |
pyther, no it doesn't |
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wagnerrp: |
is that their 'fancy speak' for 'record all shows of this title'? |
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Slashy: |
Our cable provider supports it |
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wagnerrp: |
calling it a 'season pass' is just retarded |
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kormoc: |
Slashy, yes, you can with myth and it has nothing to do with your cable provider |
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Slashy: |
wagnerrp: TiVo's language |
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kormoc: |
wagnerrp, it's record all new shows of this title |
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pyther: |
kormoc: I think it needs to cache the stream and windows media player, vlc, windows media player classic doesn't want to do that |
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Slashy: |
kormoc: |
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Slashy: |
It can tell new from old as well |
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kormoc: |
pyther, vlc and wmp work for me |
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Slashy: |
? |
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kormoc: |
Slashy, yes |
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Slashy: |
Oh that's nice |
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Slashy: |
Wow |
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kormoc: |
(assuming you're in a SD covered area) |
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pyther: |
kormoc: you are probably on wired though, correct? |
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Slashy: |
I don't need to spend money buying a DVR and spending 60 bucks on TiVo's service |
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kormoc: |
pyther, wireless |
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pyther: |
hmm odd, because wmp struggles (goes very slow) unwatchable |
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kormoc: |
I'm 802.11N |
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pyther: |
but if I watch it from the samba share it is perfect |
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wagnerrp: |
Slashy: a schedules direct subscription is only $20/yr, but dont consider mythtv to be the cheap option |
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pyther: |
kormoc: ahh |
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Slashy: |
wagnerrp: How so? |
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kormoc: |
but shoudln't matter |
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pyther: |
I should look at getting an N adapter for that box |
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kormoc: |
we support range requests correctly |
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pyther: |
would be well worth the money |
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Slashy: |
20/yr seems great |
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[R]: |
so my myth refuses to do the shutdown command |
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wagnerrp: |
because you have to buy the computer, and the hard drives, and the tuner cards, and then you realize you want more tuner cards, and whoops, now youre running out of storage space, and you want to play stuff in another room so you buy another computer and..... |
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[R]: |
and of course there is no debug in that function |
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wagnerrp: |
its a hobby, consider it to cost as much as any other hobby would |
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pyther: |
[R]: with mythshutdown? |
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Slashy: |
wagnerrp: I have a machine that is not in use |
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[R]: |
no, the frontend shutdown |
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mzb: |
and then your 10/100 network starts to groan from all the HD video flying around the house, so you upgrade to gigabit (for TV only;)) |
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[R]: |
well i guess this box needs mythwelcome anyway |
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[R]: |
so n/m |
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Slashy: |
I think it has a P4 processor and 1 GB of ram |
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Slashy: |
I just need ot install a PCI or PCI Xpress tuner card |
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[R]: |
what p4 has a pci express |
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pyther: |
Slashy: one that has linux support |
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Slashy: |
I'd probably just get PCI, |
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Slashy: |
And I don't have HD for my DVR |
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Slashy: |
In fact, my parents have a 1080p TV that they don't watch anything above 768p resolution on |
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wagnerrp: |
768p? |
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Slashy: |
1024x768 |
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wagnerrp: |
if you have a tv that runs at 1920x1080, why would you not run the attached computer at 1920x1080? |
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wagnerrp: |
that makes no sense |
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jamesd2: |
but its a damm fine picture watching lawerence welk show... ;-) |
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wagnerrp: |
also, a P4 is an antique |
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wagnerrp: |
and 1GB of memory is a bit light for a backend and a frontend running at 1920x1080 |
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Slashy: |
wagnerrp: |
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Slashy: |
I'm saying that we don't ahve any HD stuff |
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wagnerrp: |
you will once you start recording stuff on myth |
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Slashy: |
I'd probably put more RAM in it too |
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Azelphur: |
wagnerrp: I figured out more about my mythweb problem, it seems like only videos that are 1 or 2 levels deep will show |
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wagnerrp: |
there are no (very few) analog broadcasts any more |
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wagnerrp: |
and the major stations all broadcast in HD |
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Slashy: |
We only get analog from our cable company |
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wagnerrp: |
you capture what they give you |
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Azelphur: |
for example Movies/Stargate/Stargate Continum will show, because it's only 2 levels deep |
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Slashy: |
If I want HD |
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Slashy: |
I need a cable box |
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Azelphur: |
but, TV/24/Season 1/S01E01.avi will not show, because it's 3 levels deep |
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pyther: |
After 2012 it will be illegal for cable providers to ship analog |
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wagnerrp: |
pyther: oh? got some actual document stating that? |
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wagnerrp: |
(of course my cableco is shutting down in august) |
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pyther: |
No just the news people saying that cable can ship analog until 2012 (1–2 years ago) :P |
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wagnerrp: |
why would the fcc stop them from transmitting analog? why would they care? |
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pyther: |
wagnerrp: maybe tv's will stop shipping with analog tuners |
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Captain_Murdoch: |
fcc wouldn't, but the cable companies would say the FCC did/is. |
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Slashy: |
Well |
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wagnerrp: |
tvs stopped shipping without digital tuners like 3 years ago |
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wagnerrp: |
and no one cares if they ship with an analog tuner, it just makes it slightly more expensive |
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Slashy: |
I'm still only using cable to get my television |
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Beirdo: |
I doubt they will ever remove analog tuners |
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wagnerrp: |
my cableco is claiming the 'government' is requiring them to shut off analog in august |
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wagnerrp: |
but that doesnt make it any less of a vat of lies |
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Beirdo: |
too many devices that need 3/4 over coax |
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pyther: |
I wish there were more analog tuners that worked in linux |
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Beirdo: |
why? |
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Beirdo: |
PVR150/250/500 works fine |
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wagnerrp: |
the only ones you should care about are the IVTV ones |
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kormoc: |
more? There's hundreds.... |
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pyther: |
because I needed a low profile analog tuner to rebroadcast svideo stuff |
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wagnerrp: |
and with that, the only ones you should wish linux supported are the HVR-1800 and 2250 |
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Beirdo: |
use teh google |
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kormoc: |
there's low profile pvr 150's |
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kormoc: |
and we don't talk about rebroadcasting in here |
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kormoc: |
(and using a tuner for rebroadcasting seems really wrong) |
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wagnerrp: |
not to mention impossible |
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wagnerrp: |
tuners dont broadcast anything |
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Beirdo: |
not intentionally anyways |
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kormoc: |
but hey, it's just reality, no need to be constrained by that! |
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pyther: |
kormoc: no the rebroadcasting is legal stuff, I work at a school that has a "video studio" it outputs in svideo to the capture card, I then use vlc to broadcast a multicast stream |
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kormoc: |
So get a pvr 150 with a low profile bracket and enjoy life? |
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pyther: |
I don't so how that card could be low profile |
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kormoc: |
http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_pvr150mclp.html |
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pyther: |
Damn wish I would have found that 3 days ago, I ended up ordering a 3U rackmount that had full size pci slots |
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pyther: |
*shrug* |
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kormoc: |
language |
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pyther: |
woops sorry, this is the only place I can't say that word |
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pyther: |
I don't think it is easy to come across a pvr 150 low profile card, unless if it's used |
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pyther: |
amazon and newegg don't sell them |
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xand: |
what's worng with "damn"? |
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wagnerrp: |
s/low profile card// |
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xand: |
it's not rude |
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kormoc: |
pyther, http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-WinTV-PVR-150 . . . p/B0006G36VI |
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iamlindoro: |
xand, It's profanity which makes it against channel rules |
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xand: |
it's not |
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wagnerrp: |
kormoc: theyre actually selling card? theyre not supposed to be selling cards |
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Beirdo: |
xand: stop arguing, it will get you kicked whether you think it's profanity or not |
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pyther: |
kormoc: yah it is a used card |
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xand: |
don't care, morons |
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pyther: |
but that is besides the point, it is a done deal |
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kormoc: |
wagnerrp, meh, they have partners that still do at times |
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wagnerrp: |
pyther: depending on how you intend to stream it, it may be better to just use a framegrabber |
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pyther: |
wagnerrp: interesting, we have the capture card and the vlc method has been working alright, so we'll probably keep with it |
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wagnerrp: |
pyther: i mean the reason you get an mpeg encoder is so that you dont have to encode yourself |
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wagnerrp: |
VLC is probably going to be transcoding prior to streaming anyway |
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wagnerrp: |
so a framegrabber may actually use less resources and have higher quality |
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pyther: |
wagnerrp: since it is a mpeg stream I can stream it straight out |
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wagnerrp: |
you may want to look into bypassing the mpeg encoder, and hitting the raw inputs directly |
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wagnerrp: |
ah, nevermind then |
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pyther: |
though what would these frame grabbers be called, because it might be worth looking at in the feature |
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wagnerrp: |
any analog tuner besides an IVTV card |
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wagnerrp: |
if they dont have their own encoders, the CPU must pull each frame individually, and encode on its own in real time |
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wagnerrp: |
its grabbing frames... framegrabber |
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pyther: |
framegrabber doesn't turn up much on newegg or google |
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[R]: |
pyther: anythiong that doesnt have an mpeg encoder |
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pyther: |
[R]: ahh so like a cheap tv tuner? |
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achew22: |
how does VLC fit into this? Would it be possible to have myth tune a VLC stream? |
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wagnerrp: |
sure, but theres very little reason to ever do so |
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[R]: |
ah fsck |
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[R]: |
i just messed up my sudoers |
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[R]: |
thats what they invented visudo for isn't it |
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pyther: |
[R]: you had a backup right? |
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[R]: |
backup is irrelvent |
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[R]: |
its stupid ubuntu |
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[R]: |
with its no root password |
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Beirdo: |
heh, that's what setting a root password is for |
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pyther: |
eww ubuntu |
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Beirdo: |
who cares if they do it. you're the sysadmin |
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[R]: |
its a newish system |
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[R]: |
hadn't set it |
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Beirdo: |
well, time to boot with a live cd :) |
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[R]: |
recovery mode works |
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pyther: |
[R]: use a decent distro like Fedora (easy) or Arch (harder) |
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[R]: |
lol |
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[R]: |
pyther: i use many dists |
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pyther: |
[R]: I've tried ubuntu from time to time, but I always manage to break it trying to configure something via a non-gui interface :P |
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Beirdo: |
let's not have distro wars... so counter-productive |
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[R]: |
pyther: well you knwo what they say about PEBKA |
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[R]: |
C |
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Beirdo: |
heh |
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mzb: |
kci errors are every distro's problem ;) |
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pyther: |
[R]: nah, ubuntu is just goofy, I once broke an old version of ubuntu (fresh install) by installing cvs (apt-get install cvs) :P |
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[R]: |
i'm sure you did... |
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pyther: |
I did, really, apt-get stopped working after that |
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[R]: |
if you say so |
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pyther: |
granted this was probably 3–4 years ago and I'm sure I could have fixed it if I wanted to |
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mzb: |
things get a bit easier when you're >13yo |
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Beirdo: |
I have yet to see a distro that hasn't been able to bite me in the butt somehow |
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Beirdo: |
they all suck in some way. It's pointless trying to make holy wars over them ;) |
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pyther: |
Beirdo: well I think that could be said with all Operating Systems |
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[R]: |
i've been saying that for years |
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pyther: |
I don't care what distro you use, as long as it works for you – that is my motto |
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[R]: |
yet you're trying to tell me what to use |
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[R]: |
seems like a contradiction to me |
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pyther: |
[R]: nah, I was just joking |
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pyther: |
as you may have notice I'm not a big fan of ubuntu, so I was making a joke at ubuntu's expens |
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pyther: |
:( |
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pyther: |
Didn't mean to cause troubles |
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Beirdo: |
tis OK |
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Beirdo: |
some people go on rants and just won't stop... |
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Beirdo: |
I use Ubuntu, but I've been known to roundly curse out Canonical at times |
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Beirdo: |
OMG, the sun's STILL out? |
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Beirdo: |
this is an odd day :) |
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iamlindoro: |
it's 6:30! |
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iamlindoro: |
The sun will be out for hours yet :) |
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Beirdo: |
yeah, I know |
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Beirdo: |
but in Seattle, daytime != sun being out |
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Beirdo: |
it's been sunny the whole time I've been awake |
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Beirdo: |
that's a rare and nice day |
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Beirdo: |
heheh |
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Beirdo: |
History TV and their censoring of Ice Road Truckers |
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Beirdo: |
like we don't know they are swearing. jeez |
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Beirdo: |
those guys (the truck drivers) are insane |
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wagnerrp: |
f--- f--- s--- c--- im going backwards f--- f--- f--- |
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Beirdo: |
yup, pretty much |
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Beirdo: |
blleeeep bleeeep |
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Beirdo: |
heheh |
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yoday_afk: |
Hello folks, I am another newb, trying to get my pcie tv tunner to work. When I scan anything, it just does not work. Any thoughts? |
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[R]: |
what tuner is it? |
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yoday_afk: |
Hauppauge |
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yoday_afk: |
WinTV-HVR-1250 |
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yoday_afk: |
I believe |
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[R]: |
you believe? |
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yoday_afk: |
this is the output from my lspci http://mythtv.pastebin.com/imuthPpZ |
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[R]: |
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1250 |
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yoday_afk: |
thank you for the help and excuse my stupidity |
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yoday: |
Hello again folks. I was wondering which file i need to dvbscan/scan. I tried atsc/us-ATSC and atsc/us-NTSC and all fail. I live in Austin, Texas, USA. |
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[R]: |
why do you think you need to use dvbscan? |
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yoday: |
neither program works for me |
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wagnerrp: |
mythtv has its own scanner |
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yoday: |
but i cant get the channels to scan :( |
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[R]: |
are you sure your antenna works? |
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yoday: |
it works on my normal tv |
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yoday: |
im get the local channels |
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[R]: |
and you did a full scan over all the channels and it finds nothing? |
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yoday: |
and i have no problem with windows |
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yoday: |
how do i do a full scan|? |
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[R]: |
what are you doing? |
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[R]: |
because you're not using the mythtv scanner if you are asking that because its the deafult |
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yoday: |
scan /usr/share/dvb/atsc/us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB >> /home/me/blah.conf |
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[R]: |
[08:06:20] +wagnerrp mythtv has its own scanner |
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yoday: |
let me try that again, maybe it will work |
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yoday: |
ok, let me tell you what i did |
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yoday: |
ran mythtv-setup, did the general config, added a capture card, added an input source, did a scan, no results. And now im here. |
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[R]: |
ok... so you did a full scan over all the cahnenls and it found nothing? |
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yoday: |
scanned ATSC Channel 2 to 83 |
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yoday: |
yep |
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yoday: |
timeout, no signal |
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[R]: |
any errors in dmesg? what does the output from mythtv-setup look like |
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yoday: |
how many lines would you like? |
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[R]: |
all of it |
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[R]: |
not in here of course |
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yoday: |
http://pastebin.com/CepY8C4nhtA |
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[R]: |
- Unknown paste ID, it may have expired or been deleted! |
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yoday: |
http://pastebin.com/CepY8C4n |
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yoday: |
try that |
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[R]: |
well looks like you did a suspend, try rebooting cleanly |
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mcl0vin: |
using my keyboard how can i skip back to the beginning of a show |
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[R]: |
but i asked for the mtythv-setup log also... |
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yoday: |
ok |
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yoday: |
let me do a reboot |
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[R]: |
mcl0vin: all the keybindings are listed under the "Edit Keys" menu |
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yoday: |
thank you for your help |
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mcl0vin: |
[R]: but what phrase i am looking for :) |
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mcl0vin: |
plus if i go to "Edit keys" i will lose the show since it is liveTV |
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[R]: |
mcl0vin: read the descriptinos, and hit r before you leave |
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mcl0vin: |
[R]: yes "r" will record, but it will record from when i hit it... |
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[R]: |
no |
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mcl0vin: |
what do you mean no |
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[R]: |
i mean myth is always recording |
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[R]: |
so what you have been watching has been recording since it started |
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mcl0vin: |
roger |
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mcl0vin: |
now i have another question please |
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mcl0vin: |
my SD line up is showing "unknow" for this channel |
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[R]: |
sd lineup? |
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mcl0vin: |
but when i go to their website , i can see the channel name in my lineup |
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[R]: |
their? |
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mcl0vin: |
schedule direct |
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mcl0vin: |
schedule Direct website |
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[R]: |
huh? |
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[R]: |
what you said makes absolutely no sense |
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wagnerrp: |
hes saying the channel shows up on the SD website, but he never set the XMLTVID in mythtv's channel editor, such that mythfilldatabase would have any way of possibly pulling guide data for it |
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mcl0vin: |
ok let me try again |
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[R]: |
wagnerrp: you're so wise... you're like a mini budda covered in hair |
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[R]: |
wagnerrp: haha |
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mcl0vin: |
wagnerrp: thank you :) |
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wagnerrp: |
like im one of those freakish wolfmen? |
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[R]: |
haha |
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[R]: |
did you not see anchorman? |
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wagnerrp: |
i seem to have forgotten that quote |
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[R]: |
you ate a whole wheel of cheese? i'm not mad... i'm actually impressed. |
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mcl0vin: |
!XMLTVID |
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wagnerrp: |
? |
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mcl0vin: |
i don't know what is that , i thought i could as the bot |
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mcl0vin: |
to get some info , what is it and when to use it and how to use it |
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wagnerrp: |
mouse over a channel on the SD website, and you get the xmltvid for that channel |
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wagnerrp: |
then specify that for the proper channel in the channel editor |
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wagnerrp: |
so mythfilldatabase knows which guide data to pull for your channels |
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iamlindoro: |
!lmgtfy xmltvid |
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wagnerrp: |
mythlogbotfail |
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wagnerrp: |
!url lmgtfy xmltvid |
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MythLogBot: |
lmgtfy: http://lmgtfy.com?q=xmltvid |
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wagnerrp: |
ah, thats it |
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iamlindoro: |
!lmgtfy xmltvidcool |
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iamlindoro: |
er cool |
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wagnerrp: |
!url lmgtfy youtube seagull eats pigeon |
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MythLogBot: |
lmgtfy: http://lmgtfy.com?q=youtube%20seagull%20eats%20pigeon |
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wagnerrp: |
i guess that was a pelican, not a seagull |
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[R]: |
wtf |
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GadgetWisdomGuru: |
I need to apologize to my HDPVR. It appears it wasn't malfunctioning. It was the cable company. |
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mcl0vin: |
where can i find the channel editor |
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lajoie: |
Anyone know why I am getting Internal Server Error when trying to watch recordings through mythweb? Error in Apache Log:http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1877745 |
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kormoc: |
lajoie, I know why. You didn't follow the docs setting up the mysql permissions |
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iamlindoro: |
kormoc, Am I doing something wrong that current trunk's upcomign recording page doesn't show channel names any more? |
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kormoc: |
Hrm, they're working for me... Did you switch cache engines? |
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iamlindoro: |
I don't know what that is, so I bet not? |
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iamlindoro: |
:) |
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kormoc: |
Heh, yeah, let's see... at the latest revision? Are you getting them anywhere else (listings/details)? |
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iamlindoro: |
on upcoming and recorded, they show as "-" |
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iamlindoro: |
Also empty on schedules |
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kormoc: |
Settings -> MythWeb -> MythWeb Defaults -> cache_engine |
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kormoc: |
it should say Cache_Static? |
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iamlindoro: |
yeah |
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kormoc: |
What php version? |
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iamlindoro: |
PHP 5.3.2–1ubuntu4.1 with Suhosin-Patch |
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kormoc: |
I wonder if it's the Suhosin stuff |
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kormoc: |
I'm kinda doing some wacky stuff so that php 5.2 works right |
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iamlindoro: |
hmm |
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iamlindoro: |
I am not php savvy so it's just the stock Ubuntu 10.04 stuff |
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kormoc: |
check your php.ini file (in /etc) for a line like extension=suhosin.so and comment it out and restart apache and give it a go? |
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iamlindoro: |
hmm, no string "suhosin" anywhere in my php files |
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iamlindoro: |
perhaps it's not dynamically loaded? |
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kormoc: |
Heh, yeah, that's likely what that means |
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** kormoc ponders ** |
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iamlindoro: |
and a loacte for suhosin returns nothing |
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iamlindoro: |
er locate |
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iamlindoro: |
It's definitely not the end of the world, it's perfectly usable without them |
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iamlindoro: |
and I don't care what channel things are on :) |
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kormoc: |
I'll install ubuntu in a vm and see if I can dupe |
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kormoc: |
Welp, to bed with this guy |
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Beirdo: |
night then |
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haffe: |
Hmmmm. |
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haffe: |
That can be interpreted in a number of ways :) |
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Beirdo: |
uhhh, yeah. getout of the gutter ;) |
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Beirdo: |
oh wow |
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Beirdo: |
50k scoville is decently hot |
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Beirdo: |
but I want hotter! :) |
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jarle: |
Is there a log for this channel? |
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justinh: |
http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1 |
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