MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

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[00:00:35] iamlindoro: to be very, very specific, it checks the linux/dvb/frontend.h properly defines FE_CAN_2G_MODULATION
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[01:39:12] Beirdo: ahhh, Mythbusters
[01:39:21] Beirdo: fun watching stuff blow up
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[03:19:31] clop2: hi, i'm trying to switch to a new backend (yey) and everything is mostly working (double yey!!)...
[03:19:42] clop2: only problem is that it can't seem to find my old recordings
[03:20:14] [R]: how did you "switch"?
[03:20:25] clop2: it looks like the frontend is looking in /myth/space/Recordings/2071_20100526...mpg/2071_20100...mpg
[03:20:30] wagnerrp: recordings are marked against the backend they are recorded on
[03:20:35] clop2: like, it's duplicated the .mpg name and thinks it is in there
[03:20:40] clop2: yeah, i uh...
[03:20:43] clop2: backed up my database
[03:20:45] wagnerrp: if you changed hostnames, you will have to update the database to match
[03:20:51] clop2: edited the hostname throughout the backup file
[03:20:59] clop2: then installed the modified backup into the new machine
[03:21:01] wagnerrp: there is an option in the backup script to do so
[03:21:05] [R]: wagnerrp: is watching 3d really going to screw up your vision?
[03:21:09] wagnerrp: you shouldnt be editing the backup yourself manually
[03:21:37] wagnerrp: [R]: f-- if i know
[03:21:49] wagnerrp: im just speaking from long term use of 'proper' 3d, and i dont like it
[03:22:18] wagnerrp: we spent several grand trying to get the stuff working
[03:22:24] wagnerrp: and in the end, no one really wanted to use it
[03:22:24] [R]: i saw this 3d thing once... like it was using the floor and the walls and celing and stuff
[03:22:34] wagnerrp: we were perfectly content to use normal '2d' monitors
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[03:22:37] [R]: with projectors and such
[03:24:32] wagnerrp: [R]: think of it this way, your mind is very adaptive, you can train it to do near anything you want
[03:24:45] wagnerrp: but it will always come at a cost to some other capability or skill
[03:24:59] [R]: yeah, good point
[03:25:30] wagnerrp: i.e. blind people can hear very well, their mind has adapted to make better use of their fewer inputs, but they had to lose their sight to achieve that
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[03:26:37] wagnerrp: if you view large amounts of single focal point 3d, your mind will adapt itself to not refocus your eyes
[03:27:01] wagnerrp: and as a result, you will have to consciously do so when viewing the world
[03:27:13] [R]: i already have crappy depth perception
[03:27:41] wagnerrp: sure, but normal activities dont cause eye strain and headaches
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[03:44:52] Beirdo: BAH
[03:45:06] Beirdo: python... BAH!
[03:45:17] wagnerrp: BAH!
[03:45:28] Beirdo: why is it that python's the best supported option for AWS use? :)
[03:46:25] wagnerrp: unit 23, do you need my assistance?
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[03:46:52] wagnerrp: AWS.... Amazon?
[03:46:56] Beirdo: :) well, I wanna redo some scripts to be run on an EC2
[03:46:58] Beirdo: yeah
[03:47:17] Beirdo: I need... S3, SQS, SNS (which is new)
[03:48:09] Beirdo: and python-boto seems to be the best supported, and I don't wanna do python
[03:48:24] Beirdo: why do my fingers type as pything?
[03:49:17] Beirdo: but I'm a stubborn git, and I think I'll use Perl :)
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[04:04:53] sphery: What? Python on EC2? Are we talking about Snakes on a Plane?
[04:05:13] sphery: how else could the snakes get up in the clouds?
[04:05:36] wagnerrp: nah, snakes on a boat... theyre on the amazon
[04:06:16] Beirdo: hehe
[04:08:38] iamlindoro: I have had it with these monkey fighting snakes on this monkey fighting cloud
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[04:15:00] Beirdo: hmm, I wonder if an EBS-backed EC2 can stop itself (basically like going into suspend)
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[04:15:26] Beirdo: I shall have to be investigating that :)
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[04:39:32] hackman: how is mythtv as a blueray player?
[04:41:25] [R]: they just committed some initial playback support for unencrypted content
[04:41:34] Beirdo: dunno about blueray, but I'm pretty sure Linux has no support for encrypted BluRay playback
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[04:41:49] Beirdo: just get a standalone player :)
[04:42:02] Beirdo: like a PS3
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[05:23:58] jarle: uhm, I dropped the eit_cache table instead of just truncating it, how do I recreate the table structure?
[05:24:36] [R]: get the myth source and find the CREATE TABLE?
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[06:41:02] Beirdo: hahah
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[07:12:05] [R]: What are you complaining about? I have to wear glasses to watch 2D TV! Yes it is a nuisance, but I do it anyway because I want
[07:12:05] [R]: it to be in focus. I don't see 3D glasses as being any worse.
[07:12:06] [R]: HAHA!
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[07:38:50] highzeth: Beirdo: there is MakeMKV, but I have no idea how well it works on Blu-ray
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[07:40:09] highzeth: still sitting on the fence when it comes to that format & a pc drive
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[09:47:34] Kris_eva: Hi All, any idea if it is possible to transcode a recording on the fly (while its being recorded) without actually reading the file from HDD
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[10:32:47] schloompy: Kris_eva, no can you guess why?
[10:33:08] Kris_eva: no idea
[10:33:34] schloompy: actaully now i think about it its not really a silly question it could be done
[10:34:01] schloompy: but the reason is when it transcodes its actually making a different file and delete the old one once its finished
[10:34:37] schloompy: so if you are recording your telling the transcoder to transcode a specific amount of frames etc. and to overwrite the file once its done
[10:34:47] schloompy: it wouldnt work
[10:35:20] schloompy: cause the original source is changing ...
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[10:54:34] justinh: heh. That OT mailing guy should've tried googling 'Francis T. Seow'
[10:57:31] Kris_eva: I guess Myth any way parses incoming stream packets, can we as well send those packets to a mpeg transcoder (ffmpeg libs) for generating a low-res video
[10:58:18] justinh: we? I guess you could, if you worked on coding it
[10:58:29] justinh: that's you as in er...*you* :)
[10:58:48] justinh: see mythstreamtv
[10:59:28] justinh: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythStreamTV
[10:59:36] justinh: last seen working several moons ago
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[11:45:43] wagnerrp: wtf are these 'URGENT' messages on the mailing list?
[11:45:55] wagnerrp: some new spin on the old 419 scam?
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[12:05:11] janneg: wagnerrp: no idea www.pubbs.net/200911/fedora/30912-tutorial-how-to-build-and-install-ufs-linux-on -fedora-11-x8664.html
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[12:05:46] janneg: it was/is at least a real person and not a spam account
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[12:08:42] wagnerrp: the fact that hes sending from one, with the reply to another, and cc to a third, is rather fishy
[12:08:53] wagnerrp: even though they all seem to be valid accounts
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[12:25:44] wagnerrp: did the markup tables used to encode byte location instead of frame location?
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[12:28:01] justinh: arghhh GDIAF, UPDATE MANGLER!
[12:29:03] justinh: wagnerrp: re the 'URGENT' ML mails... I think they're an attempt to raise awareness of somebody who's been oppressed in the past & has presumably 'disappeared'
[12:29:36] justinh: unlikely to win them much sympathy if that's the case IMHO
[12:31:17] ** justinh wishes there was a way to change playback profile stuff while playing back.. but that sort of thing is WAY above this coder's capacity **
[12:32:10] justinh: hmmm maybe I could wrap it up in a script somehow
[12:33:04] justinh: while $blah in $foo { mythtvavtest -O $setting="foo" $file; } kinda thing
[12:34:21] wagnerrp: and use an external player for recording playback?
[12:34:41] justinh: just to try out different settings without the rigmarole of going into menus etc
[12:34:56] wagnerrp: or are you talking about mythvideo?
[12:35:38] justinh: all I want to do is try different profile parameters & see what works best
[12:35:48] wagnerrp: it probably wouldnt be that difficult to add an entry to the 'm' menu
[12:35:55] wagnerrp: a 'play using profile'
[12:36:10] justinh: can it change on the fly?
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[12:36:23] justinh: or would it have to stop & restart playback. I'm guessing the latter
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[12:36:37] wagnerrp: you would probably have to restart playback
[12:36:56] wagnerrp: but it would mean you didnt have to go the ten steps or so into the profile setup
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[12:37:17] justinh: I hate those playback profile pages but I've never thought of a better way to do it
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[12:38:24] justinh: or...heh I could just dig into the settings table for the old frontend hostname & find the settings I already know look fine
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[12:38:28] justinh: DUH
[12:39:03] wagnerrp: you mean for deint and stuff?
[12:39:23] justinh: yeah
[12:39:32] justinh: oh wait are those bound to profiles?
[12:39:44] wagnerrp: right
[12:39:55] justinh: I still have the old db somewhere
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[12:50:49] justinh: mmm grepping through mysql dumps. fun fun fun
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[12:57:36] dustybin: 1 more day and all my new server bits and joggler will arrive :D
[12:58:04] dustybin: i will be the first person in this channel to run the frontend on a joggler :D
[12:58:29] wagnerrp: oh?
[12:59:16] dustybin: anybody here use a intel stock cooler?
[12:59:28] wagnerrp: Dib blah found this yesterday... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgwjPRBAFrU
[12:59:57] dustybin: wagnerrp: that person isnt in this channel!
[13:00:18] wagnerrp: !seen azelphur
[13:00:18] MythLogBot: azelphur was last seen 19 days 3 hours 20 minutes 8 seconds ago
[13:00:26] dustybin: ohhh dam
[13:00:28] wagnerrp: not currently, no
[13:00:54] dustybin: slackware 13.1 is going on my joggler, not ubuntu!
[13:01:10] justinh: hmm joggle mythfrontend. Yawn. Been there,done that
[13:01:18] dustybin: justinh: what was is like?
[13:01:32] justinh: just cos I don't blog or tweet about it nobody hears about it :D
[13:01:34] wagnerrp: anemic, awaiting VAAPI support
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[13:02:14] justinh: well, playback of SDTV is ok but forget about flash video even half screen size
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[13:02:30] dustybin: ok
[13:02:32] justinh: wifi performance is also abysmal
[13:02:39] dustybin: im going to go wired
[13:02:56] justinh: so you'd likely want to replace its USB wifi adapter for one which works better in linux
[13:02:57] dustybin: i try and avoid wifi as best i can
[13:03:03] wagnerrp: you may as well, considering you need to be plugged into the wall anyway
[13:03:13] dustybin: wagnerrp: exactly!
[13:03:27] dustybin: i might remove the wifi and stick in my usb boot drive
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[13:03:39] dustybin: then i have a spare usb slot on the outside
[13:03:46] justinh: for some reason all my experience of wifi in linux has been atrocious
[13:04:00] justinh: great signal on windows... really poor in linux on the same adapter
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[13:04:25] justinh: oh yeah reverse engineering drivers isn't how you get nice drivers :)
[13:05:08] justinh: anyway, that guy on the youtube vid has got some retarded flash app running over the top of mythfrontend
[13:05:16] dustybin: justinh: does the latest release of ubuntu work ok on the joggler
[13:05:27] justinh: be much better to get better touchscreen support *INTO* mythtv
[13:05:45] justinh: and when the osd port to mythui is complete... mmmmmm
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[13:06:30] justinh: dustybin: forget ubuntu, slackware! that's your motto. Stick by it. Happy hacking
[13:06:36] dustybin: aye
[13:06:49] dustybin: first mission is get a nice new kernel and the gfx driver working
[13:07:01] dustybin: the rest will fall into place
[13:07:25] justinh: I just grabbed $whatever USB stick image I could find first. Not had much chance to experiment with it yet
[13:07:54] justinh: installed xbmc on it, which left alone for an hour went on to crash so I had to pull the plug on it, ruining the filesystem on the USB stick
[13:08:29] justinh: need to get rid of ubuntu netbook edition's bloody awful menu system too
[13:08:51] justinh: and the touchscreen keyboard app is horrible. cellwriter or whatever. meh
[13:09:13] justinh: not that mythfrontend would even need that
[13:09:35] justinh: dustybin: IEGD can be a cow to make work. been there with my old S100 boxes
[13:10:02] dustybin: yep, i need to figure that out
[13:10:20] dustybin: maybe i should plug in a external usb hard drive to start off with
[13:10:23] dustybin: to experiment
[13:11:31] dustybin: i dont like the idea of corrupted usb sticks
[13:12:05] justinh: USB stick/ filesystem
[13:12:08] justinh: same difference
[13:12:35] justinh: got some 40-way micro ribbon connectors on the way. we's gonna add proper HDDs
[13:12:49] justinh: and try display hacking. video controller outputs LVDS
[13:13:25] justinh: 14" touchscreen display would make one hell of a kiosk
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[13:14:12] justinh: anyway, just dd the working usb stick to a file & zap it back onto the stick if the fs gets mangled :)
[13:15:17] justinh: god can none of these muppets videoing stuff use a tripod for pete's sakes?!
[13:16:04] justinh: ooo how did I miss squeezeplay? she look niiiiiiiiiice
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[13:44:48] GreyFoxx: Wonder what the state of IEGD is these days. I haven't heard anyone mention it in so long
[13:44:57] GreyFoxx: and I haven't touched my old MSNTV's in years now
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[13:49:40] wagnerrp: IEGD?
[13:49:42] Captain_Murdoch: GreyFoxx, I've thought about selling my two.
[13:50:04] Captain_Murdoch: or perhaps just putting one in the car running an older Myth.
[13:50:11] Captain_Murdoch: s/car/SUV/
[13:58:22] GreyFoxx: hmmm that could be neat
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[14:00:59] wagnerrp: presumably youre talking about the 'MSNTV2'?
[14:02:26] wagnerrp: i doubt the older ones would even have have the power to start the UI
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[14:02:50] wagnerrp: or even a semi recent X for that matter
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[14:06:37] jarle: so what does "EITScanner (4): EIT scan ignoring sourceid." mean?
[14:08:37] GreyFoxx: yeah we mean the msntv2
[14:08:49] GreyFoxx: they made sweet low power FE's back in the day
[14:09:01] GreyFoxx: low power, no moving parts so dead silent
[14:09:23] wagnerrp: kinda...its just a mobile celeron
[14:09:50] GreyFoxx: well back then that was more than fine :)
[14:09:59] GreyFoxx: same cpu power as an xbox, twice the ram
[14:09:59] wagnerrp: about as good as an Xbox without the 'high end' graphics
[14:10:22] wagnerrp: yeah, the additional ram was a more than adequate trade off for the graphics chip
[14:10:30] GreyFoxx: the intel gpu with the conexant tv encoder looked amazing
[14:11:02] GreyFoxx: but now they are just collecting dust
[14:15:36] wagnerrp: cant you even buy in-car monitors that only take interlaced output?
[14:15:47] wagnerrp: i thought just about anything available took at least VGA
[14:16:17] wagnerrp: probably worth the $100 to shell out for an Atom/ION
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[14:24:33] janneg: jarle: nothing other than you've activated the "ignore source id" in the eit option
[14:24:36] janneg: s
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[14:37:28] jarle: janneg: in other words somewhere in my setup I have configured it to *not* have active scan for a specific source?
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[14:40:27] jarle: janneg: somehow my system has stopped getting eit for a specific source, preventing recordings for two of my inputs. I'm thinking that this setting might be causing it?
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[14:41:47] jarle: janneg: maybe I by a mistake changed a setting in mythtv-setup, as this has been working just fine until I did som changes in mythtv-setup yesterday.
[14:46:08] jarle: janneg: I think I solved the problem, somehow I did not have active eit turned on for any of the cards carrying a specific source, turned it of by a mistake..
[14:56:43] wagnerrp: 'robbery reported off campus, student robbed by several black men in hooded sweatshirts'
[14:56:48] wagnerrp: come on people, use some common sense
[14:57:06] wagnerrp: its 90 f---ing degrees outside... if you see people wearing hoodies, you go elsewhere
[14:57:30] wagnerrp: if nothing else, you dont want to be around them because they'll smell
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[15:09:38] sid3windr: =)
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[15:11:47] wagnerrp: we shouldnt avoid people wearing hoodies in 90 degree weather... because thats profiling, and thats wrong
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[15:19:45] GreyFoxx: well not all "profiling" is bad or wrong
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[15:24:31] GreyFoxx: For instance if I'm walking down the street and see a pack of skinheads walk toward me and or my family , drinking and swearing and being rowdy ... I move to other side of the street. Call it wrong or not
[15:25:01] GreyFoxx: granted that has only happened like twice in my life  :)
[15:25:52] GreyFoxx: (and I'm talking swastica tattooed skinheads in combat boots and such, not just bald dudes) :)
[15:27:30] wagnerrp: well... profiling against nazis is perfectly alright
[15:27:57] wagnerrp: you are also allowed to shoot, beat up, throw from a moving truck, or melt using an Ark of the Covenant
[15:28:31] GreyFoxx: I keep a spare AotC in my trunk for just such events
[15:32:00] wagnerrp: oh, and lance using a flag pole from a motorcycle... cant forget about that right
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[16:06:28] Captain_Murdoch: wagnerrp, not allowing hoodies in 90+ weather is also descrimination against the poor people who can't buy tank-tops.
[16:07:39] Captain_Murdoch: s/descrimination/discrimination/
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[16:16:18] Beirdo: Captain_Murdoch: oh no, can't afford the wife-beaters? Now that's poor
[16:18:13] Captain_Murdoch: yep. all the more reason that we need to just let them be and not make them feel bad or intimidated. a lot of them can't even afford belts it would appear.
[16:18:36] Beirdo: heh.
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[16:18:57] Beirdo: mornings suck as usual... sigh
[16:19:19] Captain_Murdoch: how's a modern day gangsta' supposed to rob somebody if he's got to keep one hand on his wasteband and one on his hoodie. what's he supposed to hold his boom-stick with.
[16:19:22] wagnerrp: sounds like someones got a case of the thursdays
[16:19:48] Beirdo: heh, someone has a case of "stayed up too late writing perl scripts" :)
[16:21:14] Beirdo: but, on the good side... the netflix discs I tossed in the outbound mail bin yesterday were received this morning
[16:21:28] Beirdo: yay for the local distro point being in Tacoma :)
[16:21:46] wagnerrp: at least they werent stolen by mail personnel
[16:22:15] Beirdo: heh. Yeah that woulda suckd
[16:24:51] Captain_Murdoch: my distribution center is ~100 miles away and I normally get a 2-day turnaround. drop them in the mail on Monday and have the new ones home waiting for me when I get home Wednesday.
[16:25:57] Captain_Murdoch: so if I could just make Wednesday a movie night, I could get another set by Saturday. :)
[16:28:11] Beirdo: not bad at all. I should get the new set tomorrow, it seems
[16:29:04] Beirdo: the third one's sitting in the DVD player waiting to be watched. I was too distracted by TV last night. hehe
[16:31:10] J-e-f-f-A: WoHoo! FiOS TV HD install tomorrow... I can hardly wait... ;-)
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[16:54:07] esperegu_: how can I just play a file from the filesystem?
[16:54:27] wagnerrp: see MythVideo
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[16:56:54] esperegu_: wagnerrp: I was on the wiki pago of that. But I mainly saw how to add locations. It's not possible to 'normally' browse the filesystem?
[16:57:14] wagnerrp: yes, you can set it in 'browse' mode, but why would you want to?
[16:59:22] iamlindoro: Because Metadata is sooooooo Windows for Workgroups 3.11
[16:59:39] iamlindoro: He's a Dos 5.0 man, he is
[16:59:55] sid3windr: =)
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[17:07:23] Captain_Murdoch: wagnerrp, you'd want to to browse video files on a CD or DVD or flash drive or USB drive or any other place not in your Videos SG. :)
[17:07:44] wagnerrp: Captain_Murdoch: yeah, thats the only worth i see for browse mode
[17:07:55] Captain_Murdoch: that's the only thing I use it for as well.
[17:08:11] iamlindoro: That said, a nice MFSW watching removable media would work just as well ;)
[17:08:14] Captain_Murdoch: and I'm still debating what to do about that for MFSW.
[17:08:36] Beirdo: a nice NSFW removable media would be even better
[17:08:58] iamlindoro: I'm still waiting on a NSFW MNV grabber
[17:09:05] iamlindoro: Someone had started work on one and then disappeared
[17:09:16] iamlindoro: Because I *know * it will take off if it gets one of those
[17:10:09] Captain_Murdoch: maybe that's what the 'load an image when I start a plugin' guy wanted to do. :) load the pr0n of the day from site X, site Y, or site Z.
[17:10:15] iamlindoro: I need to remember to start modifying my language... they're not MNV grabbers any more, they're "Internet Content" grabbers... since they're now generic
[17:10:29] iamlindoro: Captain_Murdoch: Heh, I somehow suspect his aims were more nefarious
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[17:19:31] esperegu_: wagnerrp: according to that page it should be on Utilities/Setup->Setup->Media Settings. But I don't have a media settings entry.
[17:23:43] iamlindoro: Then you don't have any of the media plugins installed
[17:30:00] dustybin: iamlindoro: was you a windows user before you used linux?
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[17:34:34] sphery: So, has anyone here seen Dr Francis T. Seow? (I feel just like one of those guys on the AT&T/iPhone commercial where they all help find the lost dog...)
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[17:38:05] sid3windr: you don't feel like Moe when Bart calls him up pretending to look for one of his patrons? :P
[17:39:28] iamlindoro: <spartacus>I'm Dr. Francis T Seow!</spartacus>
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[17:39:58] sphery: sid3windr: What? It's not real. And here I thought I was helping out.  :(
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[18:22:51] Bazil_: hi guyes, i have a problem, i recently bougt and installed a DVB-C card and camodule, i hooked in hte card, and started playing tv, the first 2 days it was working fabulous, but now i can only watch channels that is free, the card is still working on my regular tvbox, any ideas on what can be wrong ?
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[19:57:48] stevieman: So I have a pvr-150 card connected to cable, a pinacle 800i connected to an antenna. I can access all the channels in myth if I goto the menu and change the input to either the digital or the analog inputs on the 800i, the PVR-150 is the default tuner apparently and is not listed in the iput section of the menu. The guide has the 800i Digital tuner channles, the pvr-150 channels but not the 800i analog channels. Also I cannot change to the 800i d
[19:57:48] stevieman: igital channels without first specifying the input, which I don't want to have to do all the time
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[20:13:35] justinh: found myself a little bit stumped by the search in the program finder yesterday. think I'll have to make a new remote binding
[20:14:49] justinh: or a patch.. whatever
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[20:21:53] Cervera: hey, anyone here with a hauppage! PVR?
[20:22:01] wagnerrp: yes
[20:22:14] Cervera: pvr-150? maybe?
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[20:22:21] wagnerrp: yes
[20:22:35] Cervera: yippie.... did you ever encounter sound problems?
[20:22:41] wagnerrp: nope
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[20:23:19] Cervera: sometimes i have (randomly) sound problems in episode recordings
[20:23:22] Cervera: and live tv
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[20:23:42] Cervera: sound has a high pitch disortion
[20:24:11] Cervera: and i have no idea where to start diagnosing the problem
[20:24:49] Cervera: and it comes randomly. any ideas? anybody encountered a problem like this?
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[20:26:50] Cervera: help?
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[20:27:49] wagnerrp: make sure your record rate is set to 48khz
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[20:35:32] Cervera: i'll check it, but won't it be permanently problematic if the rate was set wrong?
[20:35:59] wagnerrp: you would see that problem for all recordings at which you used a wrong rate
[20:36:21] wagnerrp: although if it only happens randomly, its doubtful thats the problem
[20:36:23] Beirdo: !trout Wicked you shouldn't paste to IRC
[20:36:23] ** MythLogBot slaps Wicked with a you shouldn't paste to IRC trout on behalf of Beirdo... **
[20:37:09] wagnerrp: eh?
[20:37:12] wagnerrp: !seen Wicked
[20:37:12] MythLogBot: Wicked is here and has been idle for 7 minutes 50 seconds
[20:37:29] ** wagnerrp sees no pasting **
[20:37:33] Beirdo: 16:27 -!- Wicked [~zero@unaffiliated/blazed] has quit [Excess Flood]
[20:37:42] Beirdo: 16:27 -!- Wicked [~zero@unaffiliated/blazed] has quit [Excess Flood]
[20:37:45] GrahamIRC: very wicked!
[20:38:03] Beirdo: urgh
[20:38:14] Beirdo: stupid ssh connection :)
[20:38:21] Beirdo: that was meant to be once :)
[20:38:40] Beirdo: Excess Flood is nearly always due to pasting, but not always :)
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[20:39:35] Wicked: ah no idea why it did excess flood
[20:39:44] Wicked: i did a killall znc to restart my bouncer
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[20:40:18] justinh: excess flooding always reminds me of that bash.org quote. a picture paints a thousand words :) $user has quit (excess flood) lol
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[20:41:09] wagnerrp: http://bash.org/?587662
[20:43:26] wagnerrp: hehe.... http://bash.org/?7936
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[20:53:44] wagnerrp: Beirdo: i think youll like this one... http://bash.org/?400459
[20:54:40] Beirdo: nice
[20:54:41] Beirdo: hehe
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[21:01:10] stevieman: So I have a pvr-150 card connected to cable, a pinacle 800i connected to an antenna. I can access all the channels in myth if I goto the menu and change the input to either the digital or the analog inputs on the 800i, the PVR-150 is the default tuner apparently and is not listed in the iput section of the menu. The guide has the 800i Digital tuner channles, the pvr-150 channels but not the 800i analog channels. Also I cannot change to the 800i d
[21:01:10] stevieman: igital channels without first specifying the input, which I don't want to have to do all the time
[21:02:02] wagnerrp: you said that already
[21:02:47] bjd: best repeat it again, just to be sure
[21:03:23] Beirdo: heh
[21:03:26] stevieman: sorry, I didn't mean to do that
[21:03:40] stevieman: wrong window was focused
[21:03:45] Beirdo: If it's much more than like 3 or 4 lines on my client, my eyes tend to glaze over
[21:03:45] wagnerrp: stevieman: im implying... 'if you need help, you have to ask a question'
[21:05:19] stevieman: is it normal for the channels to be seperated by inputs and not assessable in the guide?
[21:05:34] wagnerrp: guide... dont know about that
[21:05:43] stevieman: or accessable even .....
[21:05:50] wagnerrp: but default behavior is that the channel change buttons only change within the current input
[21:06:46] stevieman: Is there a way to change the default behaviour to allow me to access all the channels regardless of the input?
[21:07:02] stevieman: without having to change the inputs?
[21:08:04] wagnerrp: yeah, 'browse across inputs' or something like that
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[21:08:13] wagnerrp: buried in the frontend settings
[21:09:54] stevieman: ok, I'll go digging
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[21:15:03] Beirdo: Grrrr
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[21:16:43] Beirdo: Wicked: fix your client!
[21:17:15] Wicked: Beirdo, sorry. should be good now :)
[21:17:27] Wicked: weird though how it excess floods...
[21:17:35] Beirdo: that a reconnect flood?
[21:17:42] Wicked: errr
[21:17:46] Wicked: am i lagging?
[21:17:48] Beirdo: no
[21:17:52] Wicked: ok.
[21:17:54] Beirdo: I don't think you are
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[21:18:18] Wicked: well i was changing some settings on my irc bouncer(znc) and did a "killall znc" to restart it
[21:18:25] Beirdo: but yeah, a lot of clients, if you quit and restart... they don't pace joining many channels
[21:18:40] Beirdo: and flood the server just trying to join
[21:19:02] Wicked: ah. could very well be that. i idle in *alot* of channels on freenode
[21:19:26] Beirdo: should check for some sort of setting to spread out the joins, etc :)
[21:19:40] ** Beirdo pats MythLogBot **
[21:20:02] Beirdo: I implemented protection code in that bot to prevent it from Excess Floods
[21:20:20] Wicked: ah yea. i will have to look into that...i vaughly remember a setting related to joining channels.
[21:20:28] Wicked: ah.
[21:20:44] Wicked: i dont do c/c++
[21:20:54] Wicked: which is what the bouncer is written in(c++) iirc
[21:21:12] Beirdo: it's a sliding window type of thing in the server... if you send more than x amount in the past y seconds, it boots you
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[21:22:22] Wicked: yea
[21:22:32] Beirdo: and it measures x in bytes, IIRC, and also number of messages
[21:22:42] Wicked: i remember back in the day on undernet ctcp flooding people
[21:22:43] Beirdo: something like that
[21:22:59] Wicked: or well people doing it...not nessisarily me doing it
[21:23:09] Beirdo: oO
[21:26:18] stevieman: ok I got all the channels showing up in the guide now and everything else seems to be working fine. It was in Playback OSD in case anyone wants to know
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[21:55:47] gmspence__: can anyone tell me how to set my sleep timer when i'm watching a video.... i want it to shut down my PC instead of going back to the main menu.....is this possible?
[22:01:00] iamlindoro: No, you cannot have the sleep timer shut down the PC
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[22:02:08] Beirdo: so it seems that NBC went over the cliff.
[22:02:19] Beirdo: Law & Order... cancelled?!
[22:02:31] Beirdo: excuse my French, but WTH?
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[22:06:09] gmspence__: iamlindoro – is there any workaround u could suggest?
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[23:05:00] xris: this is really informative: http://hd.engadget.com/2010/05/27/hd-101-over . . . l-tvs-do-it/
[23:06:26] xris: various ways to disable overscan
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[23:14:47] justinh: yay digital audio works & I didn't have to jump through any mad hoops
[23:27:07] J-e-f-f-A: Humm... gotta upgrade my box from FC8, should I jump right to FC13? (re-install OS from scratch, and restore DB) Opinions?
[23:30:00] Beirdo: that is really useful xris, thanks :)
[23:30:44] J-e-f-f-A: Beirdo: So how are you liking Seattle? ;-)
[23:30:53] Beirdo: I like it. :)
[23:31:26] Beirdo: it's my more my style... although my sedentary legs are still getting used to the idea of walking more
[23:31:28] ** J-e-f-f-A has never been there... Some day... **
[23:31:34] Beirdo: !url overscan
[23:31:34] MythLogBot: overscan: http://hd.engadget.com/2010/05/27/hd-101-over . . . l-tvs-do-it/
[23:31:35] Beirdo: :)
[23:31:37] Beirdo: there
[23:31:46] J-e-f-f-A: ha!
[23:31:54] iamlindoro: !url linuxtv
[23:31:54] MythLogBot: linuxtv: http://www.linuxtv.org/
[23:31:58] iamlindoro: yay!
[23:32:10] J-e-f-f-A: !url wiki
[23:32:10] MythLogBot: wiki: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/
[23:32:13] Beirdo: it's manual entry, so if we need more... let me know
[23:32:14] J-e-f-f-A: awesome
[23:32:18] Beirdo: !url google
[23:32:18] MythLogBot: google: http://www.google.com/
[23:32:19] Beirdo: hehe
[23:32:27] Beirdo: for those who are too retarded to know it
[23:34:01] iamlindoro: How about http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information as linuxtv, or "hardware" or "tuners"
[23:34:13] iamlindoro: That way they can't get lost on the way to the wiki
[23:35:53] Beirdo: one sec
[23:36:28] Beirdo: !url tuners
[23:36:29] MythLogBot: tuners: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardwar . . . _Information
[23:36:31] Beirdo: :)
[23:37:26] iamlindoro: sweet
[23:40:48] J-e-f-f-A: Beirdo: Is there a way to display what url keywords you have configured? something like !url list returning something like "entries: overscan linuxtv wiki google tuners"
[23:43:09] J-e-f-f-A: Ah, good, nothing 'critical' recording the next few days, so I'll have pleanty of time to upgrade my systems. ;-)
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[23:56:51] Beirdo: !help url
[23:56:58] Beirdo: !url – list
[23:56:58] MythLogBot: faq(disabled) google linuxtv logs overscan tuners wiki
[23:57:14] Beirdo: sorry, was not reading the screen
[23:57:43] Beirdo: hmmm.
[23:57:53] Beirdo: !url test http://www.test.com
[23:57:53] MythLogBot: No match for keyword test
[23:57:58] Beirdo: cood :)
[23:58:14] Beirdo: good rather
[23:58:42] Beirdo: oooh, I think the expansion is for filling in a %s
[23:59:58] Beirdo: !url gi blah
[23:59:58] MythLogBot: gi: http://www.google.com/?q=blah

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