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| [00:04:42] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: I can confirm those latest commits fixed both issues. Every thing seems good now. Thanks |
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| [00:10:56] | wagnerrp: | my cableco has recently been bumping back up the bitrate |
| [00:11:12] | wagnerrp: | dont know what changed that im no longer getting abysmal 12–13mbps shows |
| [00:11:57] | sphery: | they made bandwidth available by dropping analog channels? |
| [00:12:03] | wagnerrp: | no, not yet |
| [00:12:09] | wagnerrp: | although thats supposed to happen in august |
| [00:12:47] | sphery: | wow, imagine the bitrate they'll use then ;) |
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| [00:18:37] | bergqvistjl: | hi guys, is anyone here using mythbuntu lucid? |
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| [00:20:39] | wagnerrp: | is that 10.10? |
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| [00:20:47] | bergqvistjl: | 10.04 |
| [00:20:58] | wagnerrp: | oh... plenty of people using that |
| [00:21:02] | bergqvistjl: | its just that my apache server doesnt autostart, so i cant use mythweb and the like |
| [00:21:08] | ** wagnerrp wonders why people cant just call it 10.04 ** | |
| [00:21:15] | bergqvistjl: | well it is 10.04 |
| [00:21:24] | bergqvistjl: | oh i get you |
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| [00:21:58] | bergqvistjl: | anyway, the command ive used to start apache manually (when i found out what it was doing was: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| [00:22:40] | bergqvistjl: | nothing major there, but how could i add it to the list of items to load on startup without it prompting for the password? |
| [00:22:53] | bergqvistjl: | and exiting when its done (when run in the terminal, it does this anyway) |
| [00:24:53] | ** wagnerrp applauds sphery's campaign to rally the community against udo ** | |
| [00:25:06] | sphery: | no, just against that change |
| [00:25:15] | sphery: | I only mentioned once who made it get changed :) |
| [00:25:28] | sphery: | he wasn't the only one in the "vocal outcry" |
| [00:26:11] | sphery: | quite of few of the usual armchair devs piped about about how it must be changed or else |
| [00:31:00] | bergqvistjl: | is there a mythbuntu specific channel or chatroom? |
| [00:33:29] | iamlindoro: | #mythbuntu |
| [00:36:35] | bergqvistjl: | thanks |
| [00:37:46] | moodboom: | hey all, i am getting the following error in the mythfrontend log when I start a video (which hangs at "Please Wait...") – anyone know if that's a myth configure problem or system problem? using drivers from ati: "not compiled with any usable video output" |
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| [00:40:52] | moodboom: | worked fine for a long time until recently |
| [00:41:31] | iamlindoro: | sounds liek you are set to a video profile your card does not support-- but impossible to know from cherry picked logs-- pastebinned logs would help |
| [00:42:15] | moodboom: | video profile, i will look into that, thanks (again) iamlindoro :> |
| [00:42:32] | sphery: | moodboom: Utilities/Setup|Setup|TV Settings|Playback, 3rd screen. Change the Playback Profile group to Slim. |
| [00:42:35] | iamlindoro: | and I'm sorry, I shoudl say playback profile |
| [00:42:37] | iamlindoro: | yeah |
| [00:43:15] | moodboom: | thanks all, awesome, will try it out |
| [00:46:28] | skd5aner: | ummm, why is my mythweb all of a sudden in spanish? |
| [00:46:45] | skd5aner: | how is that even possible |
| [00:46:47] | skd5aner: | ? |
| [00:47:30] | wagnerrp: | you set it as such? |
| [00:47:41] | skd5aner: | sorry, Catala |
| [00:48:12] | skd5aner: | well, I'm 100% sure I didn't, in fact haven't been to the mythweb settings page in... um, years? |
| [00:48:28] | wagnerrp: | google has |
| [00:48:47] | wagnerrp: | what have we told you about securing your server |
| [00:49:02] | wagnerrp: | now mythtv is programmed to record only soaps and porn |
| [00:49:11] | skd5aner: | It is secured, unless something has happened :( |
| [00:49:17] | skd5aner: | I've used htdigest for years |
| [00:49:19] | skd5aner: | since 2005 |
| [00:49:25] | wagnerrp: | i know, im joking |
| [00:49:40] | skd5aner: | well, that was my first worry, testing from another subnet now |
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| [00:53:09] | sphery: | skd5aner: browser sending the wrong Accept-Language? |
| [00:54:27] | moodboom: | dang it, none of my settings screens are visible (hidden behind menu) – i can see them for a second when i hit esc, before dropping back to menu |
| [00:54:47] | moodboom: | guess i need to change configuration directly in the db...? |
| [00:54:50] | skd5aner: | well, still being prompted for auth... sphery, not sure... I would doubt it? |
| [00:55:00] | skd5aner: | weird none the less... |
| [00:55:42] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I learned my lesson way back in the day, when google did crawl my mythweb site and really screwed up a bunch of stuff |
| [00:55:59] | sphery: | moodboom: what menu? |
| [00:56:04] | sphery: | mythtv main menu? |
| [00:56:12] | sphery: | if so, I think you're running multiple windows or something |
| [00:56:12] | moodboom: | yeah |
| [00:56:33] | moodboom: | seems opengl is flaky about getting the window or something |
| [00:56:35] | sphery: | or you have a broken Window Manager configuration or something |
| [00:56:41] | moodboom: | maybe |
| [00:56:51] | moodboom: | running fluxbox, using it for a while no prob |
| [00:57:25] | moodboom: | ati and xorg-server havent been playing well |
| [00:57:31] | moodboom: | i should probably turn off opengl |
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| [01:00:18] | Pwen: | hi all. I am having a problem with jamu.py crashing. |
| [01:00:20] | Pwen: | File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/MythTV/MythBase.py", line 71, in __getattr__ elif name in self.field_order: |
| [01:00:23] | Pwen: | AttributeError: 'VideoTypes' object has no attribute 'field_order' |
| [01:00:47] | Pwen: | the first line is printed hundreds of times, then the final line is as shown. the command tried was "./jamu.py -l en -MIV" |
| [01:00:49] | wagnerrp: | sounds like you updated the bindings and did not update jamu to match |
| [01:01:23] | Pwen: | wagnerrp: I use Mythbuntu, which I assume would keep the versions inline, maybe not? |
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| [01:02:08] | Pwen: | I am using MythTV 0.23 |
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| [01:03:54] | Beirdo: | ugh blah |
| [01:05:34] | Pwen: | wagnerrp: I have just found this thread http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . u.py;#433803 and will attemp the solutions found there, will let you know how it goes :) thanks |
| [01:06:01] | wagnerrp: | i dont know whats in that thread, but i guarantee you that you simply need to update jamu |
| [01:06:22] | wagnerrp: | having written the code its failing on, i know exactly what the problem is |
| [01:07:05] | wagnerrp: | and its just that you are running a version of the bindings where i updated some internal variable names, with an old version of jamu that has not been patched for the changes |
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| [01:08:31] | edomeda: | hey guys, can anyone tell me what process/command causes myth to schedule programs? I updated and restarted my box and everything seems working except mythweb shows upcoming recordings as blank. My schedules are still in place though. |
| [01:09:00] | wagnerrp: | you can pass it as a flag when running mythbackend |
| [01:10:31] | edomeda: | hum... guess more then that broke. It also tells me "Myth is using all inputs, but there are no recordings?" |
| [01:11:12] | sphery: | moodboom: good idea... start mythfrontend with: mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [01:11:39] | sphery: | then you might be able to get to settings to change the settings--including Theme Painter |
| [01:11:46] | sphery: | or at least playback profile group |
| [01:11:54] | Beirdo: | ThemePainter=rembrandt ? :) |
| [01:11:57] | Pwen: | wagnerrp: oh ok, how would I manually update jamu? |
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| [01:12:12] | wagnerrp: | Pwen: update the mythvideo plugin |
| [01:14:24] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, heh |
| [01:14:29] | Pwen: | wagnerrp: ok, I think maybe Mythbuntu has a problem with that... how can I chek my mythvideo version? |
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| [01:15:51] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo wont have changed, but the jamu it contains will have |
| [01:16:13] | edomeda: | great, upgrade broke lots of stuff. First problem, how do I fix the "Myth is using all inputs, but there are no active recordings?" problem when I try to watch tv? |
| [01:16:51] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: that means the backend either isnt running, or it doesnt have access to the tuners |
| [01:16:54] | edomeda: | I've re-run mythtv-setup, and checked, everything looks correct. And tried running mythtvfilldatabase |
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| [01:19:36] | Beirdo: | blargh, why must ubuntu require so dang much memory? |
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| [01:19:58] | Beirdo: | 126MB virt for mysqld |
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| [01:20:16] | Beirdo: | gnome this, gnome that. |
| [01:20:19] | Beirdo: | blech |
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| [01:21:47] | iamlindoro: | You know, if Dagmar was still around he'd tell you what a moron you are for having any WM at all ;) |
| [01:22:16] | iamlindoro: | and that when he started, way before you even HEARD of a computer, he could have coded this linux thing up on punchcards, and that you are an idiot for not being him |
| [01:22:25] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [01:22:37] | Beirdo: | I'm sure I've been using Linux a lot longer than him |
| [01:22:48] | Pwen: | wagnerrp: ok, this happens when I try "aptitude reinstall mythvideo" – E: I wasn't able to locate file for the mythvideo package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. – looks pretty broken to me? |
| [01:22:55] | iamlindoro: | I suspect a fair number of us have been |
| [01:22:59] | Beirdo: | OMG, how is havokmud using 32% CPU idling?! |
| [01:23:06] | Beirdo: | what did I do wrong now? |
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| [01:23:53] | iamlindoro: | I heard my MBE going nutso the other day and found that it was using 40% CPU for some screensaver 10.04 had enabled, heh |
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| [01:24:47] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: is ubuntu your primary OS for your myth boxes? |
| [01:25:20] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner, basic run-of-the-mill ubuntu is what my MBE runs on, but I have a debian laptop and a fedora system too |
| [01:25:27] | iamlindoro: | so I'm fairly diverse-ish |
| [01:25:48] | skd5aner: | cool, I was just curious if you ran vanilla ubuntu or mythbuntu distro |
| [01:25:55] | iamlindoro: | Vanilla for me |
| [01:25:56] | skd5aner: | I've yet to upgrade to 10.04 |
| [01:26:10] | skd5aner: | yea, I run the server version, so I get to build up, rather than remove |
| [01:26:26] | iamlindoro: | though that's not a reflection of my thoughts on myth distros, I think they're great (and particularly appreciate the interference the mythbuntu devs run for us ticketwise) |
| [01:26:32] | skd5aner: | has worked pretty well, and teaches me what I really need rather than just depending on stuff to already be there for me |
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| [01:27:08] | iamlindoro: | Upgrades have been relatively kind to me, always some little thing but no big deals here |
| [01:27:18] | iamlindoro: | the 10.04 upgrade was very smooth, in fact |
| [01:27:52] | skd5aner: | The last 2 were pretty painless for me, but the upgrade to 10.08 I think it was, went extremely wrong |
| [01:28:04] | skd5aner: | oops, I mean 08.10 |
| [01:28:07] | skd5aner: | or, whatever |
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| [01:28:53] | skd5aner: | they have really worked out a lot of the major kinks from years past in the upgrade process, as long as you aren't doing anything too far off the beaten path |
| [01:29:11] | iamlindoro: | upstart seems to be causing lots of issues |
| [01:29:30] | iamlindoro: | yet another way to the backend to come up before network, or DVB, or before udev has finished, etc. |
| [01:29:48] | skd5aner: | yuck... hate those kind of "race" conditions |
| [01:29:59] | dan__t: | So I got my IR blaster all set up, it works!!! hah yeah! |
| [01:30:40] | dan__t: | So assuming I'm using my cable box, it outputs coax to my hauppauge 1600, that's analog, right. I'm unsure how to use the blaster in conjunction with mythtv scanning those channels. |
| [01:32:24] | sphery: | dan__t: in the US, you don't scan analog |
| [01:32:34] | sphery: | dan__t: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [01:32:36] | dan__t: | oh, ok, i guess that would make sense then eh |
| [01:33:02] | sphery: | basically, pay attention to the "If you're a (North American) analog user" part |
| [01:33:18] | dan__t: | Will do, thanks. |
| [01:33:52] | dan__t: | Very cool. |
| [01:33:52] | skd5aner: | sphery – the guy who has written a -users email for ever possible scenario already, and has all the links as macros |
| [01:34:39] | ** sphery wonders how many times people will ask why the percent of time recorded stat is wrong ** | |
| [01:34:47] | sphery: | I've only answered it 2 or 3 times in the same thread |
| [01:34:52] | sphery: | seems it's not enough |
| [01:35:03] | skd5aner: | Mike "The-guy-who-has-written-a-users-email-for-every-possible-scenario-already- and-has-all-the-links-as-macros" Dean |
| [01:35:06] | skd5aner: | that's better |
| [01:35:15] | sphery: | heh |
| [01:35:54] | skd5aner: | alright, the wife is calling... time to watch me some 24 |
| [01:36:11] | sphery: | yay, my svn up worked--even with the release traffic |
| [01:37:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, that works fine if you're using svn+ssh |
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| [01:38:56] | iamlindoro: | We're back door men here at the MythTV project |
| [01:39:56] | sphery: | yeah, I was actually using http... I only svn up once in an http working copy, then tar it, then explode it when I need a clean one, and do all work in the http one. When I want to commit, I explode a clean copy, then svn switch it. That way, I can never accidentally commit from the wrong one and never accidentally leave any garbage in there that gets committed. |
| [01:40:05] | sphery: | of course, saying that is just tempting fate |
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| [01:45:19] | sphery: | at least this time, the person asking about the percentage found one of my answers... Just read in order and hadn't gotten to the answer, yet, I guess. |
| [01:46:44] | dan__t: | I'd use ivtv-tune to change the tuner to a specific channel right |
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| [01:54:37] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, thanks. Kernel update caused a slight change in the header format (2.6.31–20 -> 2.6.31–21) and made the module not run correctly. |
| [01:55:15] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, seems the upcoming recordings appeared after I fixed the tuner problem. |
| [01:57:18] | edomeda: | one last question though, how do I enable myth to be able to record more then one channel from the same multiplex? I've got a dual tuner and only three multiplexs, so in theory, I shouldn't I be able to record from all channels on the same multiplexs at once? |
| [01:57:46] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will already default to two virtual tuners |
| [01:59:12] | edomeda: | is there a way to tell if I have those/am using a virtual tuner to record a show? |
| [01:59:35] | edomeda: | I've named my tuners DVBT1 and T2, but only see those listed int he listings |
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| [02:01:03] | dan__t: | Ok, I can stream.... static. |
| [02:01:03] | dan__t: | heh |
| [02:01:35] | dan__t: | How else can I change the channel of the card itself, aside from using ivtv-tune? |
| [02:01:40] | dan__t: | Stuck in RPM dependency hell. |
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| [02:19:41] | aliby: | For some reason mythtv is not changing to the correct channel when recording. It always records on TLC. This is a new change as of a few days ago. Any ideas why this might be? |
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| [02:26:42] | dan__t: | Ok, well, got it all to work as well as it probably ever will. |
| [02:27:57] | dan__t: | I didn't think about how I'd also have to see the set top box display at the bottom. So I change the channel, mythtv thinks the channel is changed, when in reality a few seconds later it actually initiates the channel change via ir blaster channel change script. I understand the buffer, I've read that. |
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| [02:33:52] | dan__t: | Welp. Its been a fun project, thank you all very much for the help. |
| [02:34:24] | dan__t: | I learned a lot. And I mean a LOT. |
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| [02:36:28] | bcgrown: | where are the "always start recordings x min early/ end x minutes late" settings? i couldn't find them in mythtv-setup |
| [02:36:58] | wagnerrp: | bcgrown: in regards to that recommendation plugin, ive already got an API key for the site |
| [02:37:22] | bcgrown: | wagnerrp: awesome, i did too. i didn't realize you were going to work on it |
| [02:37:38] | sphery: | bcgrown: no idea which of 3 similarly described, but completely different settings you're lookign for |
| [02:37:59] | Pwen: | wagnerrp: thank-you from before. All I had to do was sudo aptitude remove mythvideo && sudo aptitude install mythvideo, it fixed up some problem with it and now jamu is working! |
| [02:38:55] | bcgrown: | sphery: i'm looking for the one that affects all recording schedules |
| [02:39:13] | sphery: | none does |
| [02:39:29] | bcgrown: | sphery: how was i able to set it then? |
| [02:39:34] | sphery: | one set affects all schedules created from this point forward (pre-fills values) |
| [02:39:44] | sphery: | one set affects open-ended recordings |
| [02:39:53] | sphery: | one set affects only a specific rule |
| [02:40:20] | sphery: | I have a feeling you're looking for the one that most people abuse |
| [02:40:59] | bcgrown: | well when i check my schedules in mythweb the "start early" and "end late" fields are all zeros, but all of my recordings still start a minute early and end a minute late |
| [02:41:09] | sphery: | "Time to record before start of show (in seconds)" and "Time to record past end of show (in seconds)" in TV Settings|General |
| [02:41:13] | bcgrown: | yes! |
| [02:41:15] | sphery: | but they don't affect all schedules |
| [02:41:26] | sphery: | or, really, don't affect all recordings |
| [02:41:45] | bcgrown: | those are the ones |
| [02:41:46] | bcgrown: | thanks |
| [02:41:53] | sphery: | and--even with the recent changes that users think will solve all their problems--won't work the way users think they will work |
| [02:42:01] | bcgrown: | oh? |
| [02:42:33] | sphery: | because priority comes into play |
| [02:43:13] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/435318#435318 |
| [02:43:27] | sphery: | you have to set priority properly--it's not an "automatic soft padding" |
| [02:44:00] | sphery: | and when people /also/ abuse channel and input priorities (or HDTV priority or custom priorities), that becomes a challenge |
| [02:44:46] | bcgrown: | what do you mean by abusing them |
| [02:44:59] | sphery: | but, on the bright side, now that we have the change that users think will magically solve all their problems, they can start to use it and realize that things are more complex was obvious when the armchair developers were saying it's an easy fix and all we have to do is... |
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| [02:45:31] | sphery: | basically, channel and input priorities are evil and should almost /never/ be used |
| [02:45:41] | sphery: | people usually use them because they don't know how to properly configure their systems |
| [02:46:26] | sphery: | or because they're too lazy to do it right (after they're told how--thinking that a 30s job will take longer than 30s) and so they mess with things until the one case they're looking at works, and assume they just "fixed" everything |
| [02:46:56] | sphery: | but, hey, I'm a bit jaded when it comes to the whole priority/"soft-padding"/... discussion |
| [02:47:00] | bcgrown: | if i want one tuner to always be used for livetv (if available), is there a better way than giving its input a higher priority? |
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| [02:47:52] | sphery: | input priority has absolutely no effect on Live TV tuner selection--ever |
| [02:48:26] | sphery: | but giving it a higher input ID (i.e. connecting its input last) will actually make it the "preferred" Live TV tuner when you also enable the setting, "Avoid conflicts between LiveTV and recordings" |
| [02:48:33] | sphery: | and that's the right approach |
| [02:48:39] | sphery: | but you leave the input priority at 0 |
| [02:48:47] | sphery: | the same as all other input priorities |
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| [02:49:01] | bcgrown: | ok. now about the tuner numbering... if i do a "delete all" will that reset them back to 1 and 2 |
| [02:49:17] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [02:49:27] | sphery: | the capture card portion of that |
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| [02:49:36] | sphery: | so, yes |
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| [02:49:53] | sphery: | delete all capture cards (but not delete all capture cards on <hostname>) will reset IDs |
| [02:50:06] | sphery: | and that's the 30s reconfig I mentioned |
| [02:50:19] | sphery: | if you don't delete all video sources, you won't lose channel/listings info |
| [02:50:27] | sphery: | so just do the capture card portion to reorganize inputs |
| [02:50:55] | aliby: | sphery I think you had attempted to my question re: Mythbackend recording on the wrong channel. My apologies but I never did get to see your response & am still having the same problem. |
| [02:51:12] | aliby: | *attempted to answer my question |
| [02:51:37] | sphery: | actually, I didn't know what might cause that |
| [02:51:53] | sphery: | other than a problem with external channel change script or channel configuration |
| [02:52:16] | sphery: | is it /really/ every single channel? |
| [02:52:18] | aliby: | Ah ok... even weirder, It's a WinTV PVR 500 card which has two tuners built into one card... and one tuner works just fine. The other stays stuck on channel 13 |
| [02:52:31] | sphery: | might be a hardware issue, then |
| [02:52:44] | sphery: | have you tried a power off, wait for 30s, then power on |
| [02:52:48] | aliby: | Nope, but I can |
| [02:52:54] | wagnerrp: | power off... AND unplug |
| [02:52:57] | sphery: | sometimes the hardware needs a hard boot to reinit properly |
| [02:53:12] | sphery: | ideally, power off, AND unplug, AND hit the power button a few times while unplugged |
| [02:53:17] | aliby: | Yeah, will do so |
| [02:53:38] | wagnerrp: | we have a server at work that the onboard intel NICs will get hosed, and it takes an unplug to fix |
| [02:53:48] | sphery: | but, yeah, as long as you're doing it unplugging to drain all caps is a great idea |
| [02:54:44] | aliby: | Shutting down now, will unplug and mash power/reset button in a sec :p |
| [02:59:52] | bcgrown: | wagnerrp: anything I can do to help get the recommendation plugin started? i had a look at the plugin dev guide and it was a little overwhelming. i'm not sure where to start |
| [03:00:25] | wagnerrp: | right now, im just messing around with the API itself |
| [03:00:32] | wagnerrp: | TBH, ive not done any myth UI code either |
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| [03:01:37] | wagnerrp: | for starters, im just going to have the plugin enable/disable the grabber, and manage a blacklist of stuff you dont want recorded |
| [03:01:50] | wagnerrp: | run the actual program in python |
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| [03:02:22] | bcgrown: | ah, i was going to say C++ is a little beyond me but other languages or the xml menu stuff i might be able to handle |
| [03:02:22] | wagnerrp: | eventually, ill stick the caller into the housekeeping routines, run it once a week, calling an external grabber |
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| [03:02:56] | wagnerrp: | final hope, i rewrite the jobqueue and move the housekeeping stuff in there instead |
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| [03:03:04] | wagnerrp: | (had already been planning that for a while) |
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| [03:03:23] | wagnerrp: | but for now, im just trying to get a feel of what data i should send to the API to get meaningful results back |
| [03:03:30] | bcgrown: | i don't know if you got the same info, but the dev of that site asked that a unique ID be added so he can tell how many mythtv users are connecting. it sounded not unreasonable |
| [03:03:45] | wagnerrp: | yeah, thats not a problem |
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| [03:03:56] | wagnerrp: | just pull a bit of /dev/random on the first run, and shove it into the database |
| [03:04:00] | wagnerrp: | pull it from there from then on |
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| [03:04:31] | bcgrown: | he also said that an "i don't like this show" option is planned for the recommendation list |
| [03:04:32] | wagnerrp: | could even have that as part of the database setup (going to need one of those for the blacklist) |
| [03:04:59] | wagnerrp: | that can be added in later as needed |
| [03:05:04] | bcgrown: | > If you're writing the plugin already, you can start with the "I don't like it" button on it, because it will be a simple &exclude[]=show_name option in the URL, and it will be available soon. |
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| [03:06:28] | bcgrown: | sounds pretty simple |
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| [03:16:13] | aliby: | sphery and wagnerrp — looks like reboot/poweroff may have done the trick |
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| [03:18:52] | sphery: | aliby: great... |
| [03:18:55] | sphery: | enjoy |
| [03:19:49] | aliby: | sphery yep. Fixed. |
| [03:19:51] | aliby: | :D |
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| [03:20:42] | aliby: | Now I have to go find 24 online since it didn't record. Drat. |
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| [03:20:50] | sphery: | heh, and deal with the abomination that is Hulu or the network website |
| [03:20:55] | sphery: | and Flash |
| [03:24:21] | iamlindoro: | I heard you can do that in Myth now |
| [03:24:21] | sphery: | and potentially a windows-only activex-type layer |
| [03:24:21] | sphery: | iamlindoro: ok, so what about the hulu-redirects-to-network-website-that-only-plays-in-windows? |
| [03:24:21] | sphery: | you go there and get the same thing you'd get in Firefox? |
| [03:24:21] | sphery: | IIRC CW is windows only |
| [03:24:21] | sphery: | I /think/ Fox is (isn't 24 Fox?) |
| [03:24:21] | iamlindoro: | 24 playing fine here :) |
| [03:24:21] | iamlindoro: | right this very second in fact |
| [03:24:21] | sphery: | oh, maybe not windows only :) |
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| [03:24:38] | sphery: | works here, too--at least the commercial before it does |
| [03:24:48] | sphery: | aliby: for what it's worth: http://www.fox.com/watch/twentyfour |
| [03:25:28] | bcgrown: | lucky US residents, get to watch everything online |
| [03:25:45] | iamlindoro: | You can do iPlayer if you're in the UK ;) |
| [03:25:51] | bcgrown: | nope |
| [03:25:53] | bcgrown: | i can't get either |
| [03:25:59] | iamlindoro: | Where are you? |
| [03:26:14] | bcgrown: | on the WORLD-wide web. a different one than those sites, obviously :) |
| [03:26:40] | iamlindoro: | K, guess I can't make any suggestions for you when information requires dental work ;) |
| [03:27:05] | iamlindoro: | Bah, you're in Canada, there's lots of options for you |
| [03:27:12] | sphery: | iamlindoro: so try Supernatural |
| [03:27:14] | iamlindoro: | write grabbers for the STV online source |
| [03:27:17] | iamlindoro: | er CTV |
| [03:27:40] | sphery: | We're sorry, but only the following operating systems are supported at this time: * Windows XP or Vista * Mac OS X 10.3 or greater |
| [03:27:41] | aliby: | sphery – only problem is that it wont be available till tomorrow on Fox's website |
| [03:28:15] | iamlindoro: | sphery, yeah, sucky |
| [03:28:29] | iamlindoro: | sphery, It's a purely artificial limitation, of course |
| [03:28:30] | sphery: | that's why I had to buy an episode of Supernatural for $2 on XBox Live |
| [03:28:36] | bcgrown: | iamlindoro: you may have not be able to tell, but i'm not that bothered by my lack of access. |
| [03:28:36] | sphery: | yeah |
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| [03:28:57] | iamlindoro: | bcgrown, Well you did refer to us as lucky, so you're sending mixed messages |
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| [06:27:56] | lwizardl: | hi |
| [06:28:14] | lwizardl: | anyone know how to access the service menu screens on a DCT6200 ? |
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| [06:28:25] | lwizardl: | all the ones i read online aren't working for me |
| [06:30:37] | lwizardl: | i'm trying to bring up the white screen with all the details up |
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| [07:46:58] | hot_wheelz: | any ideas on how to fix this failed to reinitialize video output i'm running 10.04 btw |
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| [07:47:31] | justinh: | hot_wheelz: probably not enough info to go on |
| [07:52:48] | hot_wheelz: | justinh how about this I set the tuner to open on demand then say watch tv it thinks about it then i get the error? |
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| [07:58:35] | justinh: | hot_wheelz: still not enough information by a long shot. It'll help more if you provide mythfrontend log output in a pastebin |
| [07:59:21] | justinh: | it could be something as 'simple |
| [07:59:26] | justinh: | er.. as 'simple' |
| [07:59:38] | justinh: | er.. as 'simple' as not having proper video drivers set up & working |
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| [08:04:03] | hot_wheelz: | i'm using the Proprietary ati driver this tuner worked fine on my laptop with ati chip |
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| [08:46:33] | ekka: | hi all |
| [08:46:37] | ekka: | may i ask here ? |
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| [08:48:54] | ekka: | haloo |
| [08:48:58] | ekka: | anybody here ? |
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| [09:02:17] | xand: | just ask your question |
| [09:05:57] | ekka: | have gadmei tv tuner can be used in mythtv? |
| [09:07:15] | justinh: | does it work in linux? THAT is the question |
| [09:07:32] | justinh: | if she no worky on loonix, she can no be used in mythtv |
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| [09:08:18] | ekka: | gadmei work fine in linux with tvtime |
| [09:08:48] | ekka: | but i want to use mythtv |
| [09:09:01] | justinh: | if the tuner works in linux, it should work in mythtv just fine |
| [09:09:28] | justinh: | but for what it's worth I would avoid that type of tuner card |
| [09:09:51] | justinh: | and instead, buy one which does *digital* TV or at least has onboard video encoding & audio capture |
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| [09:10:45] | ekka: | i know |
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| [09:12:22] | ekka: | but digital TV doesnt work fine in here, because its still in experimental |
| [09:13:08] | justinh: | the type of tuner card (framegrabber) is 'fine' if you only ever want one TV tuner. If you'd like to use more than one tuner (to record or watch more than one thing at a time) it gets sticky. Since most framegrabber cards don't capture audio onboard, you'd need a soundcard per tv tuner too |
| [09:13:28] | justinh: | and configuring that will be a pain in the backside |
| [09:13:39] | justinh: | I wouldn't wish that on anybody, not even dustybin |
| [09:15:00] | ekka: | thanks |
| [09:15:23] | ekka: | but i just want to watch with mythtv and maybe can be integrate with xbmc |
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| [09:58:01] | drindt: | my mythweb is running at the backend server, and when i want downloading a movie then it told me: 17403_20100511042900.mpg does not exist in any recognized storage group directories for this host. it seems that its not recognized the storage folder... |
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| [10:58:57] | drindt: | my mythweb is running at the backend server, and when i want downloading a movie then it told me: 17403_20100511042900.mpg does not exist in any recognized storage group directories for this host. it seems that its not recognized the storage folder... |
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| [11:15:20] | c00p: | I am in AU – Trying to work out the best video capture card for me – Wanting a DVB that can also take a Composet video in from my Austar box .... Does such thing exist |
| [11:15:27] | c00p: | getting lost on the wikis |
| [11:17:18] | k-man: | c00p: dunno if that exists but i doubt it- i would suggest get an HDhomerun for DVB-T reception and get that box all the US people get for the composite in from your austar box – i think its the hdpvr or something |
| [11:17:41] | k-man: | how do store the system volume so its the same after rebooting? |
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| [11:27:34] | justinh: | k-man: with alsa, alsactl store |
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| [11:28:09] | justinh: | c00p: I'd avise you get separate cards for digital & analogue capture |
| [11:28:40] | justinh: | *advise |
| [11:29:56] | oobe: | avise sounds right to me |
| [11:30:08] | justinh: | I started out with just one tuner but soon realised that wasn't going to be enough |
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| [11:30:57] | oobe: | k-man, i dont know if its been fixed but myth didnt support the hdhomerun dvb-t version last i heard |
| [11:31:01] | c00p: | ok thanks guys |
| [11:31:05] | justinh: | having separate cards for analogue & digital makes config much simpler, and can save headaches with scheduling |
| [11:31:28] | c00p: | can mythtv do live streaming – like a Slingbox ? |
| [11:31:36] | justinh: | bleugh |
| [11:31:38] | justinh: | no |
| [11:31:43] | oobe: | yea that is true not only are the analogue compenents of hybrid tuners cheap and nasty most can only use 1 tuner at once |
| [11:32:18] | k-man: | c00p: and i advise that you don't bother with usb dvb tuners, nor internal ones, just get an HDHomerun or two |
| [11:33:54] | c00p: | do I really want a seperate box – was looking for all in 1 ... |
| [11:34:14] | oobe: | there is no need for a HD homerun |
| [11:34:41] | oobe: | you will find many dvb-t pci and pci-e tuners to choose from |
| [11:34:47] | justinh: | I agree. Unless you *absolutely* need a network tuner, stay away. For one thing they're expensive |
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| [11:34:57] | justinh: | and for another thing, there's nothing wrong with PCI tuner cards |
| [11:35:14] | oobe: | check out linuxtv.org |
| [11:35:33] | oobe: | it always needs updating but its a good starting point for choosing hardware |
| [11:35:33] | c00p: | yeh reading it and getting lost with which card I want ... |
| [11:35:57] | oobe: | basically when i buy hardware i start with whats available in shops i would actually use |
| [11:35:59] | justinh: | what I'd do is find out which cards are available to buy where you are, then check the linuxtv.org wiki |
| [11:36:04] | oobe: | then check its compatability |
| [11:36:25] | c00p: | all I want to do is get HDTV and a composet feed from a satalite box and hopefully be able to stream it around the house – e.g. to my apple tv running xbmc |
| [11:36:27] | justinh: | oobe is smart too :) |
| [11:36:30] | c00p: | is that possible ? |
| [11:36:38] | oobe: | great minds |
| [11:36:41] | justinh: | c00p: then mythtv may not be for you |
| [11:37:02] | c00p: | buggar |
| [11:37:04] | c00p: | nw |
| [11:37:17] | oobe: | it is possible |
| [11:37:30] | oobe: | but livetv is not the prefered way |
| [11:37:43] | oobe: | its better to record a show using a scheduler |
| [11:37:44] | justinh: | sure it's possible, but you'd not be using mythtv optimally |
| [11:37:54] | k-man: | in my experience with usb and pci tuners, i found it hard to get reliable reception and reliable usb. with the usb tuner i had, i found the usb sybsystem would crash from time to time and require a reboot to fix |
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| [11:38:23] | justinh: | k-man: sure – it depends on the hardware. some pci cards are just USB devices on a bridge |
| [11:38:25] | k-man: | with the pci and usb tuners, i found reception quality varied across them all, and in the end it was too hard to get all channels recieving correctly on all tuners |
| [11:38:42] | k-man: | once i switched to hdhomerun, all the problems went away |
| [11:38:44] | c00p: | Guess it's not for me – I am not interested in recording show – more keen on being able to watch live TV (sports) where ever I am if I have bandwidth |
| [11:38:57] | k-man: | that's my experience – others may have other experiences that differ |
| [11:38:58] | justinh: | but the HDHR is a very high price premium just to guarantee reception quality |
| [11:39:22] | k-man: | c00p: mythtv is not really what you need then |
| [11:39:23] | oobe: | also bandwidth may be an issue over some networks with HDTV |
| [11:39:43] | justinh: | c00p: live tv is such an artifact from the last century. it's *way* better to record more than you'd ever want to watch & have a real choice of stuff to watch |
| [11:39:50] | k-man: | justinh: true – but once you buy a card and find its not working for you, thats wasted time and money – just get the best and be done with it |
| [11:40:25] | k-man: | i can't tell you how much time and money i wasted on those other tuners fiddling around trying to eek out good reception |
| [11:40:37] | justinh: | HDHR is one heck of a premium product though |
| [11:40:45] | justinh: | KER-CHING! |
| [11:40:53] | k-man: | justinh: yeah, it is, and its rock solid |
| [11:40:58] | c00p: | justinh: But if I just want to stay in my computer room and use one of my multiple displays to show live sport only avaliable from my Pay TV that I only have in another room how do I do that ? |
| [11:41:15] | oobe: | does hd homerun dvb-t work with myth yet |
| [11:41:20] | justinh: | c00p: use er.. something else |
| [11:41:25] | justinh: | oobe: AFAIK it does, yes |
| [11:41:25] | k-man: | oobe: yes floorlessly |
| [11:41:42] | oobe: | cool |
| [11:41:53] | c00p: | rightio ... Will look around to see if there is something better for me then |
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| [11:42:12] | k-man: | c00p: i think there is a product called slingbox that might do what you want |
| [11:43:18] | c00p: | yeh it does but wanted to have a linux box that could do it so I could use it to do more |
| [11:43:22] | c00p: | ta |
| [11:43:23] | justinh: | be cheaper to buy a long HDMI cable & distribution amp for HDMI |
| [11:43:30] | c00p: | lol |
| [11:43:44] | justinh: | if *all* you wanna do is show output from a STB in another room. yikes |
| [11:44:18] | oobe: | c00p, for somthing as simple as streaming livetv you should just use vlc |
| [11:44:22] | c00p: | and have the ability to change channel which I have heard people have got working with myth through the serial int |
| [11:44:41] | justinh: | c00p: seriously man, mythtv will be more hassle than it's worth for your use case |
| [11:44:50] | oobe: | it would work over you lan as long as you have the bandwidth and it supports any lirc supported remote |
| [11:45:13] | oobe: | check out vlc |
| [11:45:15] | justinh: | all the value in mythtv is in recorded media IMHO |
| [11:45:23] | justinh: | well recorded/ripped media |
| [11:45:32] | oobe: | yes |
| [11:45:35] | oobe: | totally |
| [11:45:42] | oobe: | i hardly ever watch livetv |
| [11:45:56] | oobe: | infact i only do it to quickly test things on occasion |
| [11:46:02] | justinh: | if you're only after live streaming it's not worth putting the time & effort in IMHO |
| [11:46:26] | oobe: | justinh, i think he should use vlc |
| [11:46:33] | oobe: | c00p, you should use vlc |
| [11:46:38] | oobe: | that is what i think |
| [11:47:12] | oobe: | there is a thread where someone had 2x dual tuners streaming to 4 different displays using vlc |
| [11:47:25] | c00p: | yeh vlc looks simple and effectve |
| [11:47:25] | c00p: | thanks |
| [11:47:56] | oobe: | haiku |
| [11:48:25] | c00p: | http://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/how-to . . . t259354.html |
| [11:49:01] | oobe: | it will work on windows or linux |
| [11:49:13] | oobe: | but it will always work better on linux |
| [11:49:22] | c00p: | yup – have used linux for year ... |
| [11:49:23] | oobe: | cause windows is for tards |
| [11:49:38] | c00p: | get paid to do it ... |
| [11:49:48] | c00p: | just never looked at myth etc. |
| [11:51:04] | justinh: | I looked at myth just to be a dumb VCR & accessed recordings via XBMC on an original xbox. I soon found that way too limiting, with just one tuner etc |
| [11:52:12] | oobe: | gl c00p |
| [11:53:08] | c00p: | ta |
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| [12:28:07] | justinh: | whee my first paid website commission is up & running :) |
| [12:28:38] | justinh: | thankyou Wordpress.. couldn't have done it without ya. Well I *could* have, but it'd have taken months |
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| [13:03:12] | kslater: | wow, so quiet for a release day |
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| [13:10:14] | clever: | everybody is too busy waithing on apt-get upgrade to know its borked |
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| [13:20:55] | drindt: | my mythweb is running at the backend server, and when i want downloading a movie then it told me: 17403_20100511042900.mpg does not exist in any recognized storage group directories for this host. it seems that its not recognized the storage folder... |
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| [13:40:42] | markl_: | is today the day? cool |
| [13:40:56] | markl_: | maybe a lot of people have been using the pre-releases too? |
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| [13:55:51] | justinh: | I thought yesterday was the day, according to mythtv.org :) |
| [13:57:53] | wagnerrp: | yesterday was the day it got released |
| [13:58:33] | wagnerrp: | today is the day the unwashed hoards of slashdot descend (or ascend from the basement if thats more appropriate) onto the server |
| [14:00:07] | justinh: | think I'll definitely refrain from reading comments on 'teh sitez' |
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| [14:04:55] | wagnerrp: | 'boohoo, my AIW 9800 and usb framegrabber are both common as dirt, and not supported by mythtv' |
| [14:05:06] | wagnerrp: | werent the AIW cards comparatively rare anyway? |
| [14:05:43] | justinh: | not rare enough |
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| [14:05:59] | justinh: | s/mythtv/linux/ anyway |
| [14:06:08] | wagnerrp: | yeah, he said mythtv |
| [14:06:21] | justinh: | I *hate* how linux's problems become issues with mythtv |
| [14:06:27] | tzanger: | heh |
| [14:06:43] | wagnerrp: | there was someone else complaining about all the text files they had to edit to get mythtv working |
| [14:06:46] | justinh: | yeah blame the app, not the lack of drivers in the OS |
| [14:07:08] | justinh: | I think people go on slashdot just to FUD |
| [14:07:13] | justinh: | spread FUD |
| [14:07:24] | wagnerrp: | well FUD you too |
| [14:07:49] | justinh: | I think it should read the user's mind, and.. predict the future.. and.. make me coffee! |
| [14:08:26] | justinh: | funny thing is, if you wanna do mildly complex stuff with even XBMC, you must dig out a text editor |
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| [14:08:54] | justinh: | well, always was the way in the past. dunno if they got rid of the need for that just yet |
| [14:09:04] | tzanger: | justinh: you mean it doesn't do that YET? jesus christ what the hell have you guys been so busy with. honestly I think you're just saying you're working and instead screwing around on youtube |
| [14:09:23] | tzanger: | oh wait that's what my wife syas |
| [14:09:26] | ** justinh thought the videos of him screwing weren't around on youtube ** | |
| [14:09:50] | wagnerrp: | no, youtube deletes that kind of content, so it got put on youporn |
| [14:09:54] | justinh: | yeah that's right, I set up a camcorder & assemble Ikea flat-pack furniture |
| [14:10:08] | tzanger: | haha |
| [14:11:34] | oobe: | yay svn is being hammered |
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| [14:19:09] | wagnerrp: | that laundry day youve been putting off suddenly becomes imperative when you put on your last clean pear of underwear |
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| [14:19:40] | tzanger: | wagnerrp: inside out |
| [14:20:04] | wagnerrp: | its really not too bad, load average on the server is only 0.5 |
| [14:20:29] | wagnerrp: | trac itself is just having issues |
| [14:21:54] | wagnerrp: | trac does not like parallelism, at least not when running with a sqlite database |
| [14:21:55] | stuarta: | trac has been kicked |
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| [14:27:30] | johnnyj: | is the issue with trac something that donations could assist with – is its hosting relating? |
| [14:27:41] | johnnyj: | s/ing/ed |
| [14:27:52] | stuarta: | trac is shit |
| [14:28:22] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the server is plenty powerful, the problem is just trac |
| [14:28:24] | stuarta: | we've recently upgraded the server |
| [14:28:37] | wagnerrp: | the wiki is running on the same physical server, and is having no issues what so ever |
| [14:29:28] | johnnyj: | i have friends at a couploe hosting companies and I'm not above pulling in favors |
| [14:31:05] | stuarta: | hosting isn't the issue |
| [14:31:11] | stuarta: | it's trac itself |
| [14:31:37] | stuarta: | gets its knickers in a twist when too many people try and use it simultaneously |
| [14:31:47] | johnnyj: | i've not run it – i've only run svn and usually collabnets RPM's for it |
| [14:32:07] | stuarta: | it's fine with low concurrency |
| [14:34:16] | iamlindoro: | "Can you expect usability from a program, which latest version's most important improvements are "new event system" and "brand new Python bindings"." |
| [14:34:21] | iamlindoro: | what a bunch of d-bags |
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| [14:34:37] | johnnyj: | good morning iamlindoro |
| [14:35:05] | iamlindoro: | Morning |
| [14:35:25] | iamlindoro: | Of course he chooses to ignore the UI (read:usability) stuff |
| [14:35:34] | stuarta: | damn users, bunch of clueless nitwits.... |
| [14:35:40] | stuarta: | :-p |
| [14:36:04] | johnnyj: | no good dead goes unpunished |
| [14:36:06] | johnnyj: | deed |
| [14:36:12] | johnnyj: | man I need my pills today |
| [14:37:06] | iamlindoro: | Most demoralizing of all is the fact that the things we've been hammering for the past six month at least (if not a year) are usability and polish issues, with major projects underway addressing consistency and setup |
| [14:37:26] | iamlindoro: | But from reading /. you would think we had just released .21 Mk III |
| [14:41:05] | johnnyj: | iamlindoro: where are you reading this? |
| [14:41:11] | iamlindoro: | /. |
| [14:41:31] | johnnyj: | oh – the comments? |
| [14:41:46] | ** j-rod only reads /. comments for laughs ** | |
| [14:42:14] | j-rod: | people are stupid, film at 11 |
| [14:42:36] | johnnyj: | this just in |
| [14:42:47] | j-rod: | "zomg, I used it 3 years ago, and it couldn't wipe my arse for me!" |
| [14:43:08] | j-rod: | -> ergo, rag on it for all eternity |
| [14:43:53] | iamlindoro: | I mean, I think that I am fairly realistic about Myth's shortcomings-- but at least I'm trying to help get something done about it |
| [14:44:03] | oobe: | i think any software that wipes bottums would be real impressive a guy wrote software that reads brain thoughts and controls wheelchairs for quadraplegics |
| [14:44:12] | j-rod: | complaining is way easier |
| [14:44:13] | johnnyj: | iamlindoro – here here |
| [14:44:42] | johnnyj: | i think many people confuse bitchy with witty |
| [14:44:53] | iamlindoro: | When we get the UI, consistency, and setup stuff worked out, we'll pick up new users-- It's just the mindless, ceaseless complaining about versions two years+ old that is killer |
| [14:45:10] | skd5aner: | I see wagnerrp snuck a comment in there ;) |
| [14:45:23] | johnnyj: | lets just not expect even those new users to be overly positive in their critique either |
| [14:45:28] | skd5aner: | or two |
| [14:45:34] | iamlindoro: | I mean, a guy posted this: http://shishnet.org/ufufuf/inconsistent.png |
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| [14:45:45] | iamlindoro: | That's .21 or earlier-- so relevant to .23 how? |
| [14:45:47] | AndyCap: | oh, myth's on slashdot? |
| [14:46:07] | iamlindoro: | Not that I don't agree that screenshot is inconsistent, but MythUI has been in public releases for over a year |
| [14:46:15] | iamlindoro: | er... sorry, six months, two releases |
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| [14:49:54] | skd5aner: | hehe, I know it's only a 1, but funny none the less – http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=164 . . . cid=32166896 |
| [14:50:41] | skd5aner: | ha – the parent is even funnier – http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=164 . . . cid=32166834 |
| [14:52:14] | skd5aner: | I wish you guys would quit trying to trick me into buying your product, what is this? A subsidiary of "The Video Professor"? |
| [14:52:19] | iamlindoro: | janneg made a good point that simply dropping the preceding 0. would clarify the serial nature of the releases |
| [14:53:42] | skd5aner: | I just love the "marketing department" part of it |
| [14:55:45] | iamlindoro: | I read those as facetious |
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| [14:55:57] | iamlindoro: | I don't think any of them were implying that there was a marketing department |
| [14:56:10] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: got a link to the above quote? |
| [14:56:23] | wagnerrp: | i didnt see it in there earlier |
| [14:57:28] | wagnerrp: | nevermind, found it |
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| [14:57:49] | MrKeuner: | hello, I cannot see the mouse pointer in mythtv frontend. Is it not supposed to be used? |
| [14:57:58] | wagnerrp: | it is hidden by default |
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| [14:58:04] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: the links I just posted above |
| [14:58:10] | wagnerrp: | you have to go into the frontend settings and specify that you want the mouse enabled |
| [14:58:20] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=164 . . . cid=32167264 |
| [14:58:31] | MrKeuner: | wagnerrp, OK, no problem if I won't need to use it |
| [14:58:43] | MrKeuner: | wagnerrp, will I need to use it? |
| [14:59:17] | wagnerrp: | MrKeuner: no, mythtv is designed to be used with a keyboard or remote |
| [14:59:24] | iamlindoro: | MrKeuner: No, the Myth UI is designed for remote use-- You can run it with a keyboard and run parts of it with a mouse |
| [14:59:24] | MrKeuner: | cool thanks |
| [15:00:28] | janneg: | touchscreen support (which probably increases mouse support) is slowly worked at |
| [15:00:33] | skd5aner: | Ahh, don't worry – /. readers basically think everything sucks, almost all myth users really appreciate what is in .23 |
| [15:00:46] | wagnerrp: | you know... its not worth responding to an AC |
| [15:01:04] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: especially to a comment that's currently rated 0 |
| [15:02:56] | wagnerrp: | someone should give this kilbo person a cookie |
| [15:04:32] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: so youre an AC these days now too? |
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| [15:04:44] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: I don't have a /. login |
| [15:05:05] | wagnerrp: | oh? i thought i remember seeing comments of your name during the 0.22 release |
| [15:05:13] | iamlindoro: | Hmm... Maybe I made one then |
| [15:05:16] | johnnyj: | did we already laugh at http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=10/05/11/ . . . cid=32166992 ? |
| [15:05:25] | iamlindoro: | I honestly didn't try my normal login combinations |
| [15:05:39] | johnnyj: | "Basicly I replaced the whole of MythTV with 1000 lines of php and.." |
| [15:05:41] | ** skd5aner launches do-release-upgrade, here goes nothing ** | |
| [15:06:36] | johnnyj: | so instead of helping with myth, which is open source, he writes his own – reminds me of another php dev I know |
| [15:06:54] | wagnerrp: | yeah, guess i was wrong |
| [15:06:56] | johnnyj: | we should ask him to open his source up |
| [15:09:45] | wagnerrp: | the guy who did the same thing with perl never did |
| [15:09:54] | wagnerrp: | i wonder if i should link in that thread |
| [15:10:14] | iamlindoro: | The truth is MythTV is still the de facto Linux DVR option by virtue of there being nothing that comes close to the feature set-- but that lead is being chipped away in other areas like usability-- the whole being greater than the sum of its parts and all that. If we address the usability/setup issues, even with the current UI, we will have extended that lead by a good deal |
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| [15:10:56] | johnnyj: | brb |
| [15:13:08] | iamlindoro: | And to be clear, I think the current UI is getting quite good, just saying even without adding animation/GL effects/all that |
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| [15:16:31] | bob___: | I just set ub a mythbuntu (10.04) backend, how do I get flash streaming to work? does it work with live tv? |
| [15:19:19] | wagnerrp: | you have to enable it in mythtv, and no |
| [15:19:38] | wagnerrp: | it only works with recordings, and it was only intended as experimental |
| [15:20:29] | wagnerrp: | unless someone writes up a patch to do it themselves, flash streaming in mythweb will not support livetv in its current form |
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| [15:43:03] | skd5aner: | mbe is up to 10.04, not issues with the upgrade :D |
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| [15:47:18] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: I don't suppose you know anything about checking python deps in configure? |
| [15:47:55] | wagnerrp: | i could add some code checks to do so, sure |
| [15:48:22] | wagnerrp: | if you want, i could whip up a patch and put it on trac for janneg to review |
| [15:48:27] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Just looking at making MNV not build without the deps |
| [15:48:43] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: But yeah, we probably need them all over-- for the bindings, for MythVideo, etc. |
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| [15:48:55] | wagnerrp: | for me, thats MySQLdb and lxml |
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| [15:49:11] | wagnerrp: | and for the most part, lxml isnt needed |
| [15:49:23] | iamlindoro: | lxml needed in MNV now |
| [15:49:32] | wagnerrp: | i mean for the base bindings |
| [15:49:40] | iamlindoro: | yeah, I'm just noting it's needed there too |
| [15:49:44] | wagnerrp: | i only use lxml for the wikiscripts stuff |
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| [15:54:39] | eniac: | Does mythtv support the scrapping of subtitles automatically ? |
| [15:54:43] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [15:55:07] | wagnerrp: | i assume you are asking if it can pull subtitles from off the internet |
| [15:55:13] | eniac: | yes |
| [15:55:21] | eniac: | that's what I'm asking for |
| [15:55:27] | eniac: | since I hate xbmc I want something else |
| [15:55:32] | eniac: | and that's one key feature for me |
| [15:55:52] | wagnerrp: | mythtv can use the subtitles embedded in recordings, or those pulled off the DVD when you ripped it |
| [15:57:55] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: this is all thats really needed for the check... http://pastebin.org/222064 |
| [15:58:04] | eniac: | ic, even mythvideo does not support such a feature if I'm correct ? |
| [15:58:17] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo supports external SRT files, yes |
| [15:58:33] | skd5aner: | I think mythweather will build without some it's deps too, but that's perl right? |
| [15:58:39] | wagnerrp: | although its the opinion of the developers that you shouldnt be using those anyway |
| [15:58:50] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Any chance of seeing that in context? (ie, maybe you want to do it for core configure and I can get something figured out for MV and MNV? |
| [15:59:04] | wagnerrp: | just mux in the bitmapped subs when you do your dvd rips |
| [15:59:21] | wagnerrp: | save yourself the (considerable) time necessary to OCR them to SRT |
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| [15:59:34] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: yeah, looking into just how to pull that off |
| [15:59:41] | wagnerrp: | my configure-fu is not good |
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| [16:09:35] | iamlindoro: | janneg: Can you offer any insight on how to add python dep checks to configure? |
| [16:09:54] | iamlindoro: | My googling so far isn't much help |
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| [16:20:07] | dougt: | my zbox works great. ignore my comment yesterday/this last weekend. |
| [16:25:16] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro, janneg: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8444 |
| [16:25:35] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: cool |
| [16:26:51] | sphery: | why do people on /. have to come out to say how terrible MythTV is every time we have a new release |
| [16:27:05] | johnnyj: | and good morning |
| [16:27:18] | sphery: | johnnyj: nice work on the xdg-screensaver stuff! |
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| [16:27:47] | johnnyj: | sure thing – I appreciate the on going help with it and the other patches |
| [16:28:17] | sphery: | I made a few minor changes, but none to anything of substance (just logging and got rid of some extra stuff from the X11 "template" you used) |
| [16:28:31] | sphery: | and, in case you didn't notice, it went in last night |
| [16:28:40] | johnnyj: | i did – i got the commit email – thanks |
| [16:28:46] | PeaceKeeper: | Nice work on the new release. Thanks to everyone who contributed. |
| [16:28:53] | sphery: | if you're running trunk, you'll likely have to remove any patch you've applied before svn up'ing |
| [16:29:01] | sphery: | any xdg-screensaver patch that is |
| [16:29:10] | sphery: | then merge any additions after the fact |
| [16:29:12] | ** johnnyj isn't running trunk ** | |
| [16:29:29] | sphery: | cool, then you'll just pick it up when you upgrade |
| [16:29:38] | johnnyj: | or keep my patches |
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| [16:31:09] | sphery: | johnnyj: feel free to download the applied changeset and apply it to 0.23-fixes. It should apply cleanly. |
| [16:31:17] | sphery: | then you can test to see which parts of your code I broke. |
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| [16:32:25] | johnnyj: | that one was pretty easy compared to this dummy tuner |
| [16:32:35] | sphery: | heh, yeah, that's a bigger one |
| [16:32:53] | johnnyj: | i had it workine and decided I needed to implement it differently and now I'm struggling to get it working again |
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| [16:33:13] | sphery: | that just means you're doing it right :) |
| [16:33:26] | johnnyj: | something to do with the way the player for it loads |
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| [16:34:00] | dj_segfault: | Hey. I need to do an "emergency upgrade" from Ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 (video problems after a crash). Does the MythTV version in 10.04 use the same API, or am I going to have to upgrade my back end at the same time? |
| [16:34:19] | johnnyj: | great name |
| [16:35:02] | skd5aner: | you will have to upgrade both... 9.10 contains a different version than 10.04 |
| [16:35:05] | dj_segfault: | johnnyj: You talking to me? Thanks. |
| [16:35:17] | dj_segfault: | AAHHHHRRRGGG! Ok, thanks. |
| [16:35:37] | dj_segfault: | But they're definitely incompatible? |
| [16:35:40] | skd5aner: | dj_segfault: I'm doing it as we speak, no issues on my end |
| [16:35:46] | sphery: | definitely incompatible |
| [16:35:47] | skd5aner: | yes, the protocol versions have changed |
| [16:35:59] | dj_segfault: | Suckage abounds. Thanks. |
| [16:36:01] | sphery: | and the database schema |
| [16:36:03] | sphery: | and the binary version |
| [16:36:21] | sphery: | (and) protocol is not the most important of the three |
| [16:36:45] | skd5aner: | yea, but would definitely stop myth from going any further if they're out of sync |
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| [16:37:32] | dj_segfault: | OK, thanks all. |
| [16:37:42] | skd5aner: | sphery: I made that change to xorg.conf regarding the composite setting |
| [16:37:49] | skd5aner: | sphery: still see the behavior though :( |
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| [16:38:30] | sphery: | ah, don't really know anything about vdpau, so I don't have any other suggestions |
| [16:38:47] | skd5aner: | np – the wiki made it sound like it was the solution |
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| [16:42:41] | sphery: | skd5aner: IIRC there were also settings in nvidia-settings that--when not set properly in combination with X.org settings--would cause issues. |
| [16:43:05] | johnnyj: | i haven't seen the version mismatch error in a long time – is that a friendly popup? |
| [16:43:47] | sphery: | johnnyj: don't know. I'm going to play with that. I heard it causes a tiny font to get used in the main menus/popup so nothing is readable. |
| [16:44:20] | johnnyj: | oh well you cold copy the timezone mismatch code or we could create a friendly quit popup class |
| [16:44:32] | johnnyj: | if we're gonna be doing more of them |
| [16:45:27] | johnnyj: | possibly a warning on the upgrade too that you'll be needing to do ALL systems if you continue |
| [16:46:09] | johnnyj: | let's face it not everyone does their homework |
| [16:49:54] | janneg: | iamlindoro: check for python module dependencies? I think we check already for python to allow --python=python-3.1415... |
| [16:50:14] | iamlindoro: | janneg: wagnerrp got a ticket up, I'm stealing ideas from it to do the MNV checks-- thanks |
| [16:51:06] | wagnerrp: | janneg: 8444 |
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| [17:01:45] | sphery: | GreyFoxx: just for you: http://linux.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=164 . . . cid=32171312 |
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| [17:04:34] | adent: | Hello all |
| [17:08:48] | adent: | I am in the planing stages of setting up my system, does anyone know of any issues with comcast ? |
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| [17:10:50] | wagnerrp: | adent: just that comcast is shutting down analog cable |
| [17:10:57] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Recording_Digital_Cable |
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| [17:13:45] | adent: | wagnerrp: thanks |
| [17:17:09] | janneg: | wagnerrp: can be solved simpler and without tmp file |
| [17:17:27] | wagnerrp: | sure, i could just <<EOF directly into 'python' |
| [17:17:51] | janneg: | already done |
| [17:17:51] | AndyCap: | congratulations on 0.23. :) |
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| [17:18:36] | janneg: | wagnerrp: I think there's no need to print the boilerplate check_py_lib code |
| [17:19:08] | wagnerrp: | whatever you think is best, i was guessing my way through that |
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| [17:20:02] | iamlindoro: | Well whatever you guys decide on let me know, since I'm mimicing the code in plugins ;) |
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| [17:25:15] | johnnyj: | sphery: i'm looking for a decent tutorial on the gdb |
| [17:26:09] | janneg: | iamlindoro: [24573] |
| [17:27:10] | wagnerrp: | thanks |
| [17:29:43] | sphery: | johnnyj: best I can recommend is http://sourceware.org/gdb/current/onlinedocs/gdb/ , though it's obviously not a quick read. I really haven't gone through any others, so I don't know of any good ones. |
| [17:29:51] | sphery: | I'm sure there's some out there that would be helpful, though |
| [17:30:08] | johnnyj: | http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~gilpin/tutorial/ was too brief |
| [17:30:13] | johnnyj: | so thanks, anything is good |
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| [17:39:40] | AndyCap: | johnnyj: install archer? :P |
| [17:40:56] | johnnyj: | which is...? |
| [17:41:49] | johnnyj: | swing and a miss with google on Archer |
| [17:42:51] | sphery: | http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Archer , probably |
| [17:42:54] | AndyCap: | johnnyj: a more c++ friendly branch of gdb. http://sourceware.org/gdb/wiki/ProjectArcher |
| [17:45:41] | johnnyj: | interesting – thanks |
| [17:46:48] | johnnyj: | i think the tricky part of working on adding a tuner type is not having an actual tuner present to compare the experience of setup with |
| [17:47:03] | johnnyj: | so im adding debug statements and recompiling |
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| [17:53:59] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: So the plugins configure doesn't have all the extra gear to specify a specific python executable-- think I need to port all that over, or think I can just pass it "python" ? |
| [17:54:09] | iamlindoro: | (it works fine that way, just don't know if it's okay) |
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| [17:56:21] | wagnerrp: | is any of that stuff compiled into the binary? |
| [17:56:58] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux would know |
| [17:57:07] | iamlindoro: | but I think the answer is no |
| [17:57:19] | wagnerrp: | i mean the mythtv binary |
| [17:57:21] | iamlindoro: | in fact, I'm sure it is as all I do is copy over the python files during make install |
| [17:57:26] | wagnerrp: | stuff like '--python=PATH' |
| [17:57:44] | iamlindoro: | nope, not that I'm aware |
| [17:57:56] | wagnerrp: | i mean normally, you would pull that in through the config.mak |
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| [17:58:08] | wagnerrp: | but theres no guarantee that it exists when compiling the plugins |
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| [17:58:56] | wagnerrp: | i suppose you can just make the assumption that the python executable picked up in the search path is the one you want to use when running the plugins |
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| [18:07:35] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Well, here's what I've got http://mythtv.pastebin.com/CS6HvFz3 |
| [18:07:56] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: I'm just not sure whether hardcoding "python" is okay, though cross-porting all that other stuff seems equally ugly |
| [18:09:24] | wagnerrp: | oauth? thats a new one |
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| [18:10:03] | iamlindoro: | Vimeo has required it since the beginning |
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| [18:10:30] | wagnerrp: | hmm... guess ive just not run MNV on this machine |
| [18:10:44] | iamlindoro: | Or just don't care about Vimeo :) |
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| [18:11:08] | wagnerrp: | anyway.... xml, urllib, and urllib2 are all first party libraries |
| [18:11:18] | wagnerrp: | they /should/ be installed in a standard python install |
| [18:11:26] | iamlindoro: | Sure-- but can't hurt to test, yeah? |
| [18:11:32] | wagnerrp: | suppose not |
| [18:12:08] | iamlindoro: | I just don't want to put any insane behavior past our users |
| [18:12:20] | iamlindoro: | So I'd rather test everything than make assumptions that will surely be wrong with some morons out there |
| [18:12:29] | wagnerrp: | does bourne have bitwise operators |
| [18:12:49] | iamlindoro: | I'm mostly following the syntax found elsewhere |
| [18:13:00] | iamlindoro: | So for consistency's sake I was doing this |
| [18:13:24] | wagnerrp: | something like 'if not $mythbindings & $pcurl & $plxml & $pxml'.... |
| [18:13:52] | wagnerrp: | or maybe just use one variable, rather than multiple |
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| [18:13:59] | wagnerrp: | since youre already printing out whats missing |
| [18:14:07] | qfx: | morning |
| [18:14:36] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: There is undoubtedly room for improvement, but if I do it here, I have to do it everywhere else all over this configure |
| [18:14:52] | wagnerrp: | fair enough... syntax should work fine |
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| [18:15:12] | wagnerrp: | id change the name of one of the imports just to check |
| [18:15:12] | iamlindoro: | It definitely works, my only reservation was just dumping python in to the check_python_lib |
| [18:15:16] | iamlindoro: | I did |
| [18:15:30] | iamlindoro: | Thanks for having a look |
| [18:15:32] | qfx: | I'm trying to build from tar file for 0.23 and get this error: |
| [18:15:44] | qfx: | Error! QtWebkit headers not found |
| [18:15:56] | wagnerrp: | qfx: then you need to install them |
| [18:15:59] | iamlindoro: | qfx: So you're missing the QtWebKit development libraries |
| [18:16:17] | qfx: | I can find libQtWebkit.so in /usr/lib, or am I looking for the wrong file? |
| [18:16:25] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [18:16:28] | qfx: | I tried PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH ./configure |
| [18:16:29] | iamlindoro: | it's complaining about headers |
| [18:16:33] | iamlindoro: | not the lib |
| [18:16:43] | wagnerrp: | you may need the 'dev' package instead |
| [18:16:52] | wagnerrp: | libraries are needed to run, headers are needed to compile |
| [18:16:56] | qfx: | Right |
| [18:17:05] | qfx: | OK, I'll check the rpms for the dev package |
| [18:18:26] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: just reading through the email as to what spurned on all this |
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| [18:21:42] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: I assume you found it :) |
| [18:22:15] | wagnerrp: | i just hadnt checked email yet today |
| [18:23:07] | wagnerrp: | speaking of which... busy day on -users, 77 emails in the past 12 hours |
| [18:23:15] | iamlindoro: | Man, the -users .23 thread has totally derailed |
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| [18:24:36] | wagnerrp: | you mean LVM support wasnt added in 0.23? |
| [18:24:44] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [18:26:32] | wagnerrp: | hmm... i should put some logic into the python MV scanner to skip VIDEO_TS folders |
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| [18:28:56] | wagnerrp: | ooh... problem with the bindings on the list |
| [18:29:00] | wagnerrp: | this is python, i know this |
| [18:29:44] | iamlindoro: | Hahah, obscure Jurassic Park reference FTW |
| [18:29:59] | wagnerrp: | that? obscure? |
| [18:30:07] | iamlindoro: | I think, somewhat |
| [18:30:13] | iamlindoro: | the average person wouldn't know it |
| [18:31:15] | wagnerrp: | whats this 'mythverbose daemon' in the dvb-c cam thread? |
| [18:31:16] | i_is_cat: | i thought she said it was unix based.. i guess i'll have to watch it again |
| [18:31:27] | wagnerrp: | she said 'this is unix, i know this' |
| [18:31:42] | i_is_cat: | ya that sounds like the words that were used |
| [18:31:49] | wagnerrp: | it was some 3D demo file manager SGI whipped up |
| [18:31:56] | wagnerrp: | not actually intended for meaningful use |
| [18:32:06] | i_is_cat: | sure was cool looking for the time however.. |
| [18:32:16] | wagnerrp: | it just had the standard POSIX directory structure |
| [18:32:29] | wagnerrp: | rather than the normal A:\ C:\ D:\... of dos/windows |
| [18:33:46] | sphery: | wagnerrp: good question on mythverbose daemon... I couldn't translate what the guy wants/why he can't just log out the required log level and use a log watcher to react |
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| [18:39:16] | wagnerrp: | hmm... i dont know this |
| [18:39:29] | wagnerrp: | the official installer works, but thats an issue in ubuntu/mythbuntu |
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| [18:44:25] | wagnerrp: | no wonder theres so many emails, another ION speculation thread |
| [18:44:37] | emanuelez: | Hello. I have a dual feed sat system, on Astra and Hotbird. I was able to scan both satellites fine and stored everything in channels.conf. When i try to import that in mythtv-setup I get an error "Failed to open: %1". any hint? |
| [18:44:50] | wagnerrp: | 'will this ion work any better than the dozens of other identical machines?' |
| [18:45:40] | i_is_cat: | no, if they are *exactly* the same, the ion will work worse |
| [18:45:42] | i_is_cat: | ;) |
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| [19:01:07] | wagnerrp: | if im escaping a URL, would i want to use '%20' or ' ' for ' '? |
| [19:01:25] | iamlindoro: | the former |
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| [19:08:33] | sphery: | why not + ? |
| [19:09:10] | iamlindoro: | I am not aware of + being an acceptable escape for " " ? |
| [19:09:18] | sphery: | in HTTP is is |
| [19:09:49] | wagnerrp: | well i have to escape out a bunch of characters |
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| [19:09:57] | wagnerrp: | easier to just handle them all the same |
| [19:10:11] | sphery: | not using some HTTP URI-escaping lib? |
| [19:10:29] | wagnerrp: | seems URL escaping and HTML escaping is different |
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| [19:10:36] | wagnerrp: | dont know of one for URIs |
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| [19:13:06] | wagnerrp: | i guess i was just using it to escape too late |
| [19:13:37] | sphery: | Yeah, URI's have much stricter requirements |
| [19:13:46] | wagnerrp: | the system wants arguments 'show[]=show1&show[]=show2&show[]=show3&...' |
| [19:13:47] | sphery: | since they don't really have encoding support |
| [19:13:49] | sphery: | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2396.html |
| [19:13:58] | Chiwauwa: | Hi |
| [19:14:03] | wagnerrp: | i was escaping too late, so it was doing so on '[', ']', '=', and '&' |
| [19:14:10] | wagnerrp: | throughly screwing things up |
| [19:18:41] | Chiwauwa: | I've been trying to enable VPDAU for video playing on MythBuntu with the latest updates from 'auto builds'. HD TV works with VPDAU. Mplayer works with VPDAU. I've e.g. added Mplayer for mkv and it works fine, but when I switch it back to 'Internal' it starts to stutter. Any suggestions (if possible) where I enable VPDAU for the internal player/videos e.g. mkv. Thanks ... now been searching a lot on the Internet. |
| [19:19:21] | wagnerrp: | you need to tell it to use one of the three VDPAU playback profiles |
| [19:20:35] | Chiwauwa: | wagnerrp: In TV setting I have the 'high quality VPDAU' profile selected. I can't find a similar setting for videos – on a wiki somewhere it was stated that the tv-settings are used ... but that doesn't seem to be the case. |
| [19:20:51] | wagnerrp: | what card do you have? |
| [19:21:35] | Chiwauwa: | KNC-One DVB-C ... but this .... ohhh, just bought a GT220 ... works perfect in mplayer from the shell or when added as player in the 'File type' section. |
| [19:22:09] | wagnerrp: | the Internal player will use the playback settings you defined |
| [19:22:20] | wagnerrp: | and that card should be powerful enough for the VDPAU high profile |
| [19:22:26] | Chiwauwa: | in TV settings? |
| [19:22:42] | wagnerrp: | playback profiles are global for all uses of the internal player |
| [19:23:52] | Chiwauwa: | Ok, hmmmm. Then something else must be wrong because it is set to high and it does have an impact to the VQ when I select a VPDAU profile ... but maybe not all the hw pieces are utilized |
| [19:24:17] | wagnerrp: | VDPAU is all-or-nothing |
| [19:25:00] | Chiwauwa: | Can I see in the frontend log whether or not it selects the VPDAU? I'll try and get back. Thanks |
| [19:25:34] | iamlindoro: | yes, you can see it in the frontend log |
| [19:25:48] | iamlindoro: | But it may be quicker to let us see the frontend log |
| [19:26:17] | Chiwauwa: | 2 sec .. and I will get make a trace |
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| [19:26:49] | Chiwauwa: | You want me to try to play an mkv file right |
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| [19:27:03] | iamlindoro: | We want you to try to reproduce whatever you think the problem is |
| [19:27:12] | iamlindoro: | A log without any problems wouldn't do us much good |
| [19:27:20] | Chiwauwa: | No no :-) |
| [19:27:43] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: "Very cool. Do external players work with SGs yet? " Don't give them false hope that they ever will :) |
| [19:27:48] | FinnTux: | any finnish dvb-t users around? |
| [19:28:44] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: was that an adequate response? |
| [19:29:40] | iamlindoro: | Heh, works for me |
| [19:31:35] | wagnerrp: | since technically speaking, any program that can accept a myth:// uri will work right now |
| [19:33:09] | Chiwauwa: | Two log files coming. One with mplayer and one with Internal ... the internal states something about VPDAU |
| [19:36:26] | Chiwauwa: | Mplayer log: http://pastebin.com/SbyCgtHb |
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| [19:37:58] | Chiwauwa: | Internal log: http://pastebin.com/hLdMN0Gm |
| [19:38:10] | Chiwauwa: | Thanks |
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| [19:42:07] | Chiwauwa: | wagnerrp/iamlindoro: With the Mplayer it works perfect but with the Internal a lot of noise is starting within 5 seconds. |
| [19:44:43] | iamlindoro: | Transformers.2007.HD-DVDRip.1080p.DTS.2DVD.x264-CHD/CHD-Transformers-1080p-DiSC2 .mkv |
| [19:44:44] | iamlindoro: | FAIL |
| [19:44:54] | iamlindoro: | Specifically, you fail, Jakob |
| [19:45:10] | sphery: | where's the whale? |
| [19:45:30] | Chiwauwa: | What what? |
| [19:45:42] | sphery: | He's saying we won't help you play your stolen video |
| [19:45:47] | wagnerrp: | Chiwauwa: we only support legally acquired content |
| [19:45:55] | Chiwauwa: | Ohhh, ok. Fair enough |
| [19:46:38] | wagnerrp: | i can tell you that the Transformers HDDVD works just fine in mythtv |
| [19:47:38] | Chiwauwa: | :-) |
| [19:48:15] | johnnyj: | that sounds like vdpaubuffersize is too small |
| [19:48:32] | johnnyj: | but i'm no expert |
| [19:48:39] | sphery: | johnnyj: remember the "we won't help ... play ... stolen video" ? |
| [19:49:01] | Chiwauwa: | Can you point me to some good test files? I'm just trying to get this HD stuff to work ... haven't played with HD a lot before execpt for my TV stuff |
| [19:49:07] | johnnyj: | ok – i'll avoid even vague help |
| [19:49:17] | johnnyj: | sorry guys |
| [19:49:24] | sphery: | thx |
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| [19:50:07] | markl_: | i don't think mplayer works with vdpau |
| [19:50:10] | markl_: | at least, not very well |
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| [19:53:02] | johnnyj: | sphery: i got past the segfault with dummytuner and now im getting blank playback – this is progess |
| [19:53:17] | sphery: | great! |
| [19:53:30] | skd5aner: | nice, ubuntu had to make it even harder to install nvidia drivers manually in 10.04- http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidi . . . id-lynx.html |
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| [19:54:48] | Wicked: | skd5aner, yea. they switched up the way it handles the nvidia driver...but on the other hand...its a one click install to get the latest nvidia driver. |
| [19:55:05] | skd5aner: | Wicked: via apt? |
| [19:55:15] | dougt: | skd5aner: nice... i wished I saw that a few days ago. :-) |
| [19:55:18] | Wicked: | i have *always* manually installed nvidia drivers myself...and was pissed they did that...but now...i dont mind |
| [19:55:23] | Wicked: | skd5aner, yea. |
| [19:55:26] | Wicked: | you can do it via apt |
| [19:55:27] | Wicked: | or |
| [19:55:29] | dougt: | skd5aner: (for beta drivers) |
| [19:55:39] | Wicked: | system -> admin -> hardware drivers |
| [19:55:54] | skd5aner: | wicked: I don't have those controls, running server build |
| [19:55:55] | dougt: | that does a apt-get of nvidia-common, iirc |
| [19:56:01] | skd5aner: | it's apt or nothing for me |
| [19:56:07] | Wicked: | skd5aner, then why use the nvidia driver at all? |
| [19:56:09] | Wicked: | lol |
| [19:56:18] | skd5aner: | because I still run X and a WM |
| [19:56:26] | Wicked: | ah |
| [19:56:34] | Wicked: | aptitude install nvidia-current' |
| [19:56:35] | Wicked: | :) |
| [19:56:40] | Wicked: | err minus the ' |
| [19:56:43] | skd5aner: | it's my frontend, but no need to install the full desktop build if it's only ever going to be FE only |
| [19:56:59] | Wicked: | gotcha |
| [19:57:31] | skd5aner: | but, thanks – I'll keep that in mind, and maybe look at how they're handling nvidia driver changes mid-stream via packages |
| [19:57:46] | skd5aner: | In the meantime, I'll blacklist the stuff, and try that way |
| [19:57:50] | skd5aner: | thanks |
| [19:58:00] | Wicked: | im not sure how they are doing the new nvidia stuff. i just know it woudl not allow me to manually install |
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| [19:58:41] | Wicked: | id personally use the apt ones...if your having to blacklist modules and stuff to manually install the nvidia drivers...chances are it will bite you in the butt somewhere down the road. |
| [19:58:51] | Wicked: | but having said this....good luck and let me know |
| [19:58:52] | Wicked: | :) |
| [19:59:57] | skd5aner: | Not sure I would ever need the vga16fb, nouveau (open source nvidia module), rivafb, nvidiafb, or rivatv. I mean, most of those are framebuffers anyway |
| [20:00:54] | Wicked: | ah. i only glanced over that article when i 1st saw it....noticed it was having you blacklist things(didnt really even look at what) and decided...ill just stick with the provided ones from apt |
| [20:01:28] | skd5aner: | btw, just got done and the article did fix the issue and succesfully installed the drivers |
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| [20:02:02] | skd5aner: | yea, if you are comfortable with apt, and it meets your needs, then great! But, in the past they've not responded in a timely enough fashion with the version of the nvidia drivers they had for a release |
| [20:02:15] | skd5aner: | maybe that's changed, I don't know |
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| [20:06:05] | Wicked: | yea. i agree....and that was my major reason in the past for using the nvidia drivers....nothing kept up with releases. |
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| [20:14:33] | johnnyj: | so we add the "file:" just to remove it in mpegrecorder.cpp ? nice |
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| [20:21:40] | skd5aner: | ok, found a problem with the 10.04 upgrade, HD-PVR won't init and mythbackend won't launch... let's see what mythtv-setup has to say |
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| [20:22:51] | Greek-Boy: | skd5aner is that when going to 0.23 fixes? |
| [20:23:06] | skd5aner: | I was already on .23-fixes |
| [20:23:18] | skd5aner: | this was upgrading from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 |
| [20:24:20] | ** sphery recommends the "Delete all capture cards" approach ** | |
| [20:24:54] | sphery: | of course no one in the thread saying that 0.23 is broken because "all I did was upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 and now none of my capture devices work" will actually take the 30s to do that |
| [20:24:56] | skd5aner: | sphery: say it ain't so |
| [20:25:01] | sphery: | so I can't guarantee it will work |
| [20:25:05] | sphery: | skd5aner: 30s |
| [20:25:09] | sphery: | delete all capture cards |
| [20:25:12] | sphery: | create capture cards |
| [20:25:14] | sphery: | connect inputs |
| [20:25:16] | sphery: | done |
| [20:25:23] | sphery: | no channels, no listings, ... affected at all |
| [20:25:30] | sphery: | no recording rules affected... |
| [20:25:36] | skd5aner: | Will do |
| [20:25:46] | sphery: | and connect inputs in order :) |
| [20:25:56] | sphery: | but you've been there before :) |
| [20:26:11] | skd5aner: | a few times |
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| [20:26:54] | skd5aner: | It's interesting – all the cards in my MBE worked fine after the distro upgrade, but interestingly enough the HD-PVR is the one that failed... will do delete all |
| [20:27:24] | skd5aner: | ps... HD-PVR was on SBE |
| [20:27:49] | sphery: | hostnames/ip's still the same? |
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| [20:28:13] | sphery: | and the distro didn't change "localhost" to "localhost.localdomain" or anything (with whatever name) |
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| [20:29:54] | qfx: | Has anyone gotten audio out of a gforce n210? |
| [20:30:23] | qfx: | (via hdmi) |
| [20:31:03] | skd5aner: | sphery /etc/hosts /etc/hostname are both identical |
| [20:31:09] | skd5aner: | before and after |
| [20:32:04] | skd5aner: | http://mythtv.pastebin.com/mCkLsN86 |
| [20:32:19] | skd5aner: | going to do delete all now, just have to takecare of a few things first |
| [20:32:47] | sphery: | skd5aner: but if hostname itself returns different info (which it can depending on config), it will affect mythtv |
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| [20:32:59] | sphery: | but delete all will probably fix it |
| [20:34:22] | Brad-D: | hey guys, i upgraded to .23, and i don't seem to be able to play recordings anymore. I click on one, and it says "Please wait..." and just hangs on infinity. I'm sure it's some kind of pilot error, but any suggestions on where to look? |
| [20:34:38] | iamlindoro: | logs :) |
| [20:34:50] | skd5aner: | ahhh, I see what the problem was (I think)... the card was original /dev/video0, now it's /dev/video1 |
| [20:36:36] | Brad-D: | iamlindoro: i looked at the mythfrontend -v all log, and the last two rows are: Construct FD_SET, Waiting on select... |
| [20:36:54] | johnnyj: | sphery: so live tv is blank screen but if I go play them back as recordings they have content |
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| [20:38:14] | Brad-D: | the other thing that i haven't seen before in the mythbackend logs is a bunch of these: "Updated pathname '':'' -> '1533_20100511161518.mpg'" for the different files i click on |
| [20:38:35] | iamlindoro: | Brad-D: Pastebinning the logs is probably going to be faster than trying to talk you through all the things you could look for |
| [20:39:54] | Brad-D: | okay, will do :) |
| [20:41:38] | Brad-D: | iamlindoro: for mythfrontend.log, is there a verbosity level that you recommend? I don't want to overwhelm you with -v all |
| [20:42:22] | iamlindoro: | normal verbosity is likely to be fine |
| [20:42:50] | iamlindoro: | Brad-D: this is packaged, or self compiled myth? |
| [20:43:10] | Brad-D: | self compiled |
| [20:43:22] | iamlindoro: | And you rm'ed the .22 libs, right? |
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| [20:44:06] | cipher42: | anybody know how to update my backend db for 10.04 |
| [20:44:10] | Brad-D: | i don't think so, i just followed the svn fedora guide. i assumed that "make install" would overwrite everything? |
| [20:44:57] | iamlindoro: | Brad-D: ls -l /usr/{,local/}lib/{mythtv,libmyth*} /usr/{,local/}include/mythtv |
| [20:45:01] | iamlindoro: | run that, to a pastebin, please |
| [20:45:46] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Heh, getting a lot of mileage out of the tongue-in-cheek "Just don't OCR your subtitles, then" line, I see ;) |
| [20:47:06] | wagnerrp: | (i actually dont know how to pull the raw bitmapped ones out) |
| [20:47:41] | wagnerrp: | i only ever bothered to OCR once on Letter from Iwo Jima |
| [20:47:52] | Brad-D: | iamlindoro: http://pastebin.com/FqxUaEKT |
| [20:48:17] | iamlindoro: | Brad-D: See, now that's what you *don't* want, all those naughty .22 libs ;) |
| [20:48:20] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: youre getting these emails PDQ for not even being subscribed |
| [20:48:48] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: it seems that legacy libs cause a lot of problems, is it possible in the future that myth could automatically check for them and wipe them out if they exist during an installation? |
| [20:49:04] | iamlindoro: | Anything's possible, patches welcome :) |
| [20:49:15] | Brad-D: | iamlindoro: ahh excellent. any tips on how to get rid of them? Did i miss this in the install docs? |
| [20:49:20] | iamlindoro: | Brad-D: rm /usr/local/lib/libmyth* |
| [20:49:25] | iamlindoro: | then do make install again |
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| [20:49:39] | iamlindoro: | then restart all myth processes |
| [20:50:16] | johnnyj: | i do 'sudo rm -rf /usr/local/lib/*myth*' and 'sudo rm -rf /usr/local/include/*myth*' |
| [20:50:21] | Brad-D: | cool, thanks |
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| [20:50:36] | ** wagnerrp uses 'su' like a big boy... :P ** | |
| [20:50:42] | iamlindoro: | johnnyj: Youch, that's asking for trouble |
| [20:50:50] | ** skd5aner is lazy and uses sudo -i ** | |
| [20:50:54] | iamlindoro: | We don't have the linux monopoly on the word "myth" you know |
| [20:51:06] | johnnyj: | well then I'm in trouble |
| [20:51:09] | cipher42: | yea that's just a myth |
| [20:51:13] | markl_: | doh |
| [20:51:15] | cipher42: | boom chick |
| [20:52:17] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro: not sure if you saw my question earlier... thoughts? |
| [20:52:31] | iamlindoro: | What question? |
| [20:52:39] | skd5aner: | <skd5aner> iamlindoro: it seems that legacy libs cause a lot of problems, is it possible in the future that myth could automatically check for them and wipe them out if they exist during an installation? |
| [20:52:48] | iamlindoro: | iamlindoro: Anything's possible, patches welcome :) |
| [20:52:51] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: thats what a 'make uninstall' is for |
| [20:53:14] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: exactly... I do the same, but it appears a lot of people either don't keep their source around or don't run make uninstall |
| [20:53:34] | Brad-D: | iamlindoro: worked! thanks again |
| [20:53:36] | skd5aner: | I run make uninstall everytime, but... users are lazy |
| [20:53:57] | wagnerrp: | i actually HAVE to uninstall to get mythtv to build properly on bsd |
| [20:54:10] | wagnerrp: | although apparently decke has a fix for that |
| [20:54:18] | iamlindoro: | Brad-D: np |
| [20:57:48] | dustybin: | when i press pause, the audio still plays, if i do some forwarding etc, then press play, it takes a while for the audio to catch up, i just compiled latest .23 today |
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| [20:58:49] | AndyCap: | oh, crikey, someone has rewritten myth in 1000 lines of php too |
| [20:59:02] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: yeah, even better than the 1700 lines of perl |
| [20:59:09] | wagnerrp: | obviously php is a better language |
| [20:59:15] | AndyCap: | it must be |
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| [21:01:31] | johnnyj: | yeah it's loosely typed and therefore more awesome |
| [21:01:55] | AndyCap: | not so say lossy typed |
| [21:03:14] | Brad-D: | wow arclight is really flipping cool |
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| [21:11:00] | wagnerrp: | CDPAU, thats a new one |
| [21:11:59] | iamlindoro: | Brad-D: Glad you like it, all I seem to hear about it are complaints ;) |
| [21:13:15] | Brad-D: | meh, people are losers. There are 10 other themes to use if they don't like it |
| [21:13:20] | skd5aner: | Brad-D: make sure you up your resolution so it's not so pixelated! |
| [21:13:22] | skd5aner: | ;) |
| [21:13:25] | Brad-D: | for me arclight is my new choice :) |
| [21:13:58] | AndyCap: | looking forward to 0.23. wonder if my hardware will be able to keep up |
| [21:14:07] | Brad-D: | i think it may not look quite as good as it could, as my resolution is only 1024–768. but i still like it better than the others :) |
| [21:14:12] | wagnerrp: | its no more demanding than 0.22 |
| [21:15:01] | johnnyj: | isnt it actually less ? |
| [21:15:48] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: well, mostly concerned about gl performance. but I'll find out if my board's up to it when I upgrade. |
| [21:16:00] | wagnerrp: | what board? |
| [21:16:10] | AndyCap: | intel G45 |
| [21:16:18] | wagnerrp: | dont know about that one |
| [21:16:25] | wagnerrp: | intel chips have never been particularly powerfu;l |
| [21:19:34] | skd5aner: | Brad-D: I was just kidding about the "pixelated" comment – just ribbing iamlindoro as that's one of those FAQs he hates hearing |
| [21:19:39] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [21:20:59] | Brad-D: | haha, yeah that would get old fast, i bet |
| [21:21:23] | iamlindoro: | I was fine with it the first couple hundred times |
| [21:21:33] | AndyCap: | hmm, i see they are getting va-api support for it closer |
| [21:22:22] | iamlindoro: | Heh, phoronix got the updated release announcement: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ODI0MQ |
| [21:22:34] | iamlindoro: | (and I knew outlining .24 was a good idea) |
| [21:23:04] | johnnyj: | you should watermark with with 'this space intentionally left pixelated' |
| [21:24:33] | AndyCap: | johnnyj: is that the adult version? |
| [21:25:04] | johnnyj: | riiiiight.... |
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| [22:02:40] | skd5aner: | sphery: Had a PVR-250 and the HD-PVR hooked up the SBE, after the upgrade they switched /dev/video0 and /dev/video1. Kind of funny, because some of the settings for audio input for the HD-PVR were specific to a PVR-*50 card before deleting it and re-adding ;) |
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| [22:03:38] | sphery: | skd5aner: cool, glad you got it sorted |
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| [22:04:13] | johnnyj: | sphery: buh _ i think the livetv issue is b/c im using the dummychannel that the impoirt tuner uses |
| [22:04:15] | sphery: | once you realize what's wrong, you can fix it without delete all capture cards, but I'm of the opinion that it's usually faster to recreate capture cards than to figure out what's wrong :) |
| [22:04:18] | johnnyj: | i need to not use that I bet |
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| [22:04:41] | sphery: | yeah, pretty sure the dummy tuner needs normal channels |
| [22:04:47] | sphery: | at least it always did when I used it |
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| [22:05:15] | sphery: | johnnyj: so, we have the first confirmed bug on the xdg-screensaver support--it doesn't work with KDE4 |
| [22:05:32] | johnnyj: | no sh1t ? |
| [22:05:46] | johnnyj: | i wonder why not |
| [22:05:47] | sphery: | and it looks like it may never work with KDE4 (and, funny enough, the freedesktop screensaver dbus interface) |
| [22:05:54] | sphery: | it's a bug in xdg-screensaver--not your code |
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| [22:06:49] | sphery: | basically, freedesktop--the maintainers of xdg-screensaver--created an interface for all screensaver programs to adopt that uses DBus, but does so in such a way that a program like xdg-screensaver can't do the suspending for a different app |
| [22:06:52] | johnnyj: | screensaving seems so simple |
| [22:07:12] | sphery: | http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26085 that is the bug |
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| [22:07:41] | sphery: | CVS version fixed the easily noticeable issue--that on every xdg-screensaver resume, the screensaver is activated immediately |
| [22:07:42] | johnnyj: | i've ran kde4 – isnt it a little hefty for mythtv anyway? |
| [22:07:59] | sphery: | but it sounds like the new code won't ever actually inhibit the screensaver |
| [22:08:41] | sphery: | (because xdg-screensaver runs and says, "Inhibit screensaver", but then it exits, and--since the DBus Inhibit says it will stop inhibiting once the calling process ends, it's not inhibited |
| [22:09:12] | johnnyj: | oh |
| [22:09:12] | sphery: | so I'm just going to disable xdg-screensaver for KDE users--meaning that we once again have no support for KDE screensaver :) |
| [22:10:44] | johnnyj: | ah so for kde4 using dbus we should call dbus directly |
| [22:10:59] | johnnyj: | since it's our process that will not be ending |
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| [22:11:56] | sphery: | yeah |
| [22:12:16] | sphery: | but that means a new ScreenSaverDBUS or ScreenSaverFreedesktop class |
| [22:12:24] | sphery: | and removes /all/ benefit of using xdg-screensaver |
| [22:12:49] | johnnyj: | there's no usecase for xdg ? |
| [22:13:18] | johnnyj: | is dbus always available? |
| [22:14:10] | sphery: | no, just saying that if we still have to have multiple different approaches for disabling screensaver depending on which screensaver is running and which desktop/environment/... |
| [22:14:24] | sphery: | the whole point of xdg-screensaver is to make those decisions and handle everything for you |
| [22:14:56] | sphery: | so xdg-screensaver itself is made useless by freedesktop's left hand not knowing what its right hand was doing |
| [22:17:16] | johnnyj: | ok – well I suppose i can put a dbus screensaver class on my back burner |
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| [22:17:27] | johnnyj: | is that what you suggest? |
| [22:17:35] | skd5aner: | sphery: no problem, gave me an excuse to get rid of my virtual tuners. For my use case, caused more problems than they solved for (primarily Live TV). I have enough physical tuners that it's usually not an issue |
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| [22:19:48] | sphery: | johnnyj: I don't think it's worthwhile at this point |
| [22:20:07] | sphery: | let's see if stuartm confirms it doesn't work with KDE |
| [22:21:31] | johnnyj: | wouldn't it depend on the screensaver in use, again? |
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| [22:25:17] | sphery: | wouldn't what? |
| [22:25:21] | johnnyj: | nm |
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| [22:25:39] | sphery: | seems kde-screensaver won't work with xdg-screensaver, but it's possible there's something in current CVS |
| [22:25:43] | sphery: | he's testing the new version |
| [22:26:01] | johnnyj: | i have to run though |
| [22:26:11] | johnnyj: | I'll check in tomorrow |
| [22:26:16] | sphery: | the whole point of adding the code you wrote, though, was so we could finally remove all of screensaver-x11 |
| [22:26:25] | sphery: | So I'm hoping we can get a workable solution |
| [22:26:46] | johnnyj: | i'm open to adding to it or re-writing – no problem |
| [22:26:55] | johnnyj: | seeya tomorrow though |
| [22:27:04] | sphery: | It may involve first trying to execute /usr/{,local/}share/mythtv/mythtv-screensaver and then going to xdg-screensaver |
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| [22:27:41] | sphery: | would make distros happy (they can include their own script) |
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| [22:47:30] | sphery: | wagnerrp: FWIW, python-oauth2 has a dependency on httplib2, which has a function urlencode() -> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/httplib2/0.6.0 + http://code.google.com/p/httplib2/ (I can't find the docs for urlencode() , but it seems it does proper encoding) |
| [22:48:00] | sphery: | so if you're doing a new thing that needs URI-encoding support, using that wouldn't be bad since oath2 (and, therefore, httplib2) is a prereq for MNV |
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| [22:52:30] | sphery: | ah, wait, it seems urlencode() is from urllib |
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| [22:54:33] | iamlindoro: | which is also an MNV pre-req :) |
| [22:54:43] | sphery: | ah, there... :) |
| [22:55:40] | sphery: | and I'm wondering if it doesn't come with Python, anyway (as I never installed it, but MNV configure didn't complain that I was missing it) |
| [22:56:14] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp suggested earlier that it does |
| [22:56:35] | iamlindoro: | I countered that I would rather check each thing as you cannot underestimate the crazy of users |
| [22:56:45] | sphery: | yeah, I'm checking for core modules in Perl, too |
| [22:56:54] | sphery: | besides, packagers break things up for users |
| [22:57:21] | iamlindoro: | like frontends and backends? :) |
| [22:57:26] | sphery: | yeah |
| [22:57:45] | sphery: | So, I'm wondering why--if urllib and urllib2 exist as part of Python, there's a http://pypi.python.org/pypi/urllib3 and http://pypi.python.org/pypi/urllib4 |
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| [22:58:11] | sphery: | I'll never understand Python |
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| [23:05:52] | wagnerrp: | urllib is in python, oauth is not |
| [23:06:17] | sphery: | right, but urllib is where urlencode (really) is |
| [23:06:24] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [23:06:30] | sphery: | I thought urlencode was in httplib2 |
| [23:06:33] | sphery: | but it's not |
| [23:06:44] | sphery: | the oath has no relevance since it's not httplib2 |
| [23:07:10] | wagnerrp: | i actually just did '&'.join(['show[]=%s' % urllib.quote(show) for show in shows]) |
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| [23:27:00] | mythtimelord: | So I recently set up a remote frontend using an AT3N7A-I micro itx mobo and got it running with the .23-fixes branch with mythbuntu. When i try and play anything weather it is from mythvideo, livetv or a recorded tv show I experience major "prebuffering pause" errors. I have checked the wiki page on these errors and unfortunately these solutions did not work in this case. I then network mounted my backend's videos and attempted to |
| [23:28:01] | sphery: | mythtimelord: IRC has a maximum line length, and you exceeded it at "attempted to" |
| [23:28:13] | sphery: | so no one can see what came next |
| [23:28:16] | mythtimelord: | oh snap >_> |
| [23:28:32] | mythtimelord: | play one outside myth using VLC, and I did see pauses at similar intervals though i did not run VLC from the terminal. The fact that I am seeing these errors outside myth leads me, perhaps erroneously, to believe that there is a linux setting that I am missing that is causing this instead of a myth setting, I am however at a loss as to what setting |
| [23:28:39] | mythtimelord: | that might be. Does anyone have an idea on what may be causing this? |
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| [23:29:45] | sphery: | are you sure your system has the resources required to do what you're asking? play back the video, use the network to receive the video, ... |
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| [23:32:26] | mythtimelord: | I believe it should the mobo is supposed to be able to handle 1080p and i'm not going above broadcast resolution on anything at the moment, and I am able to stream the content to other computers on my network without issue |
| [23:33:07] | oobe: | 2 things you could do to test copy one of the files locally and try to playback |
| [23:33:40] | oobe: | if you get the same problem then it is some kinda of playback configuration issue i.e drivers etc. |
| [23:33:45] | lotia: | greetings all. long time mythtv user in the us using atsc. any uk users on? i'm wondering about dvb-s2 cards etc. |
| [23:33:58] | lotia: | currently use hdhomeruns, any equivalents on the dvb-s2 side? |
| [23:34:04] | mythtimelord: | i can give that a shot |
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| [23:36:34] | coffee412: | Evidently I have to change the path to lirc in the frontend of Mythtv. Does anyone know where this is in the frontend????? |
| [23:36:45] | lotia: | also the m-card compliant hdhomerun, i'm guessing no support at all for linux? |
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| [23:37:26] | sphery: | coffee412: LIRC Daemon Socket in Utilities/Setup|Setup|General settings |
| [23:37:43] | coffee412: | sphery: Thank you so much! |
| [23:41:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | j-rod: Ok, finally broke down and ordered FiOS TV HD today... Install on the 28th. ;-) |
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| [23:49:42] | coffee412: | J-e-f-f-A : Where do you live? I would love to have fios instead of my directtv/comcast deal. |
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| [23:51:16] | coffee412: | Gotta leave. Thanks sphery for helping. Made the change and hopefully wife will quit nagging me. |
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| [23:54:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | coffee412 Boston area |
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