| Tuesday, April 27th, 2010, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:49] | PeaceKeeper (PeaceKeeper!~me@ip98-162-233-96.ok.ok.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users | |
| [00:01:15] | PeaceKeeper: | Can I control volume going out HDMI from the internal volume control in Mythtv? |
| [00:02:41] | sphery: | not if it's passthrough of AC-3 or DTS |
| [00:02:53] | sphery: | unless you're using some softvol with re-encoding |
| [00:03:14] | PeaceKeeper: | Ok |
| [00:03:39] | sphery: | look at the advanced audio options in 0.23-fixes |
| [00:03:41] | PeaceKeeper: | that is what I needed to know. I have audio out HDMI but revciver is in closet next o media room |
| [00:04:03] | sphery: | LIRC is the best approach, IMHO |
| [00:04:18] | PeaceKeeper: | I only have .22-fixes. No time to follow the dev mail list right now |
| [00:04:19] | sphery: | change the volume on the receiver |
| [00:04:39] | sphery: | no need to follow the -dev/-commits lists with 0.23-fixes |
| [00:04:49] | sphery: | 0.23-fixes != trunk |
| [00:05:00] | sphery: | and, IMHO, 0.23-fixes is in much better shape than 0.22-fixes |
| [00:05:20] | PeaceKeeper: | SInce I have not seen a ".23 released!" on the website I was waiting |
| [00:05:27] | PeaceKeeper: | I might have to update :) |
| [00:06:00] | sphery: | well, if you wait, you'll likely get almost exactly what you would get if you upgrade now |
| [00:06:15] | PeaceKeeper: | cool, then I will do it this weekend :D |
| [00:06:19] | PeaceKeeper: | thank you for the tip! |
| [00:06:31] | sphery: | PeaceKeeper: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/433883#433883 |
| [00:06:54] | PeaceKeeper: | Nice! |
| [00:07:30] | sphery: | use distro packages, though |
| [00:07:42] | sphery: | (assuming you are using them for 0.22-fixes) |
| [00:09:58] | dfletcher: | hah that's funny! so wifey comes home and grabs that remote I just blogged about and myth goes crazy! like the wrong items are getting triggered. I thought she was pressing all the wrong buttons and I'm like "gimme that remote!" :P but hah direct sunlight was hitting the receiver eye. remote signal + sunlight == corrupt remote signal |
| [00:10:23] | dfletcher: | funny how much random 38khz IR noise there is out there |
| [00:10:38] | sphery: | heh |
| [00:15:35] | nutron: | PeaceKeeper: does M2 mean anything to you? |
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| [00:20:02] | sunny: | hey guys, is there a recommended remote that does not have too many buttons? |
| [00:20:49] | nutron: | sunny: yes, the one you find that best suits your needs. |
| [00:22:22] | sphery: | and here I'm always trying to find a good remote with more buttons |
| [00:22:25] | sunny: | well I've read up on all of them on the wiki, and the remotes supported well seem to lack elegant design ... |
| [00:24:09] | PeaceKeeper: | Sorry sphery my laptop when to sleep |
| [00:24:21] | PeaceKeeper: | thx I will update soon as Chuck is done recording |
| [00:24:27] | PeaceKeeper: | :D |
| [00:24:45] | nutron: | PeaceKeeper: if you didn't get it, does M2 mean anything to you? |
| [00:24:52] | sphery: | PeaceKeeper: well, no hurry, but definitely worth doing when you have some free time/open time in your recording schedule |
| [00:25:01] | PeaceKeeper: | M2 ? |
| [00:25:29] | sphery: | hip, new name for candy-coated chocolates that melt in your mouth, not in your hands? |
| [00:25:41] | nutron: | lol! |
| [00:26:37] | nutron: | naw, more sinister, I knew a guy in a project called PeaceKeeper, must not be the same guy. |
| [00:26:46] | nutron: | well not sinister as in illegal heh... |
| [00:27:12] | sphery: | did it involve nuclear missiles? |
| [00:27:25] | PeaceKeeper: | I know about some of that but I am not at liberty to talk about that anywhere with out security |
| [00:27:33] | nutron: | lips are sealed |
| [00:27:58] | ** nutron goes back to fondling perl ** | |
| [00:28:05] | sphery: | strange... some black van with tinted windows just pulled up outside |
| [00:28:17] | PeaceKeeper: | Hehe |
| [00:28:26] | ** PeaceKeeper tosses laptop out back door... ** | |
| [00:28:31] | nutron: | hah! are you still chewing your stride gum? |
| [00:28:43] | ** sphery runs his rm -rf / ** | |
| [00:28:55] | sphery: | but since it's ext3, it's taking way too long |
| [00:29:02] | nutron: | lol! |
| [00:31:12] | PeaceKeeper: | I got flash working in MythBrowser! :D |
| [00:41:25] | dfletcher: | hmm speaking of elegant remotes do you think it's OTT to build mine inside http://serpac.com/Products/Rseries/R300.aspx ? I'm going for the "snuke" look :P |
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| [00:47:12] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro, RDV_Linux: yep, my fault |
| [00:47:56] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: Your a stand up guy :) |
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| [00:48:58] | wagnerrp: | guess that means i have to fix it too |
| [00:49:21] | wagnerrp: | i did a grep for stuff i renamed, and RDV ran his own battery of tests |
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| [00:49:26] | wagnerrp: | but it seems stuff still slipped through |
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| [00:55:12] | wagnerrp: | bah, not my fault |
| [00:55:36] | wagnerrp: | !trout iamlindoro user error, invalid install |
| [00:55:36] | ** MythLogBot slaps iamlindoro with a user error, invalid install trout on behalf of wagnerrp... ** | |
| [00:57:28] | wagnerrp: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . idge.py#L555 |
| [00:58:51] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: He's going to have a hard time living this one down;) |
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| [01:00:53] | iamlindoro: | You're right, with such descriptive error messages it shoudl have occurred to me immediately |
| [01:00:59] | iamlindoro: | nice work on the error handling, boys |
| [01:01:02] | iamlindoro: | :P |
| [01:02:29] | wagnerrp: | yeah, versioning should prevent this sort of thing in the future |
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| [01:09:56] | sphery: | wagnerrp: are you doing proper XML parsing for the config.xml in the Python bindings? |
| [01:10:10] | sphery: | (meaning will things like <!-- --> comments work properly) |
| [01:10:32] | sphery: | especially if they span multiple lines and contain valid--but should be ignored--tags |
| [01:11:25] | wagnerrp: | im letting xml.etree.cElementTree.parse do my xml parsing |
| [01:11:29] | sphery: | coo |
| [01:11:31] | sphery: | l |
| [01:11:34] | wagnerrp: | i cant really say as to whether it does things properly |
| [01:11:43] | wagnerrp: | but im going to assume so until informed otherwise |
| [01:11:55] | sphery: | the bindings are using a no-pre-req's, but not proper approach |
| [01:12:03] | sphery: | maybe nutron will fix that for us... ;) |
| [01:12:14] | wagnerrp: | s/bindings/perl bindings/? |
| [01:12:21] | sphery: | yeah, perl |
| [01:12:23] | sphery: | forgot that |
| [01:12:27] | nutron: | fix what? |
| [01:12:41] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the MySQLdb module is the only non-standard one i pull in |
| [01:12:53] | wagnerrp: | aside from lxml that im using for parsing with that script downloader |
| [01:14:09] | nutron: | nope, not using anything that isn't perl core |
| [01:14:30] | sphery: | nutron: in the Perl bindings, we have code that parses config.xml, but instead of doing a proper XML parsing, it's just using regex to pull out stuff. So, things like commented tags don't work ( http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/22970 would be good, but had to remove the tag, as in http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/22972 ) |
| [01:14:48] | sphery: | is there any perl core support for XML parsing? |
| [01:14:54] | nutron: | yessir |
| [01:15:15] | ** sphery would /love/ a patch that changes the config.xml parsing to use it. :) ** | |
| [01:15:17] | iamlindoro: | http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2010-April/287464.html |
| [01:15:28] | iamlindoro: | Somone needs to explain to that guy that there's no "trigger" for releases |
| [01:15:50] | iamlindoro: | ie, no magic bug number or type that once passed, triggers a release |
| [01:16:06] | sphery: | nutron: bindings/perl/MythTV.pm around line 260 and after, if you're interested |
| [01:16:10] | wagnerrp: | we dont have to wait for proper astrological alignment? |
| [01:16:26] | nutron: | sphery: heh, i'm still just putting in calls, trying to match the python. |
| [01:16:28] | wagnerrp: | i thought thats what our 'logistical' errors were... |
| [01:16:40] | iamlindoro: | and using blocker like he wants to would render the blocker priority useless |
| [01:16:41] | nutron: | sphery: k i'll look |
| [01:17:33] | sphery: | nutron: it does need to also support mysql.txt parsing (which is Name=Value instead of <Name>Value</Name>), too |
| [01:17:39] | sphery: | but thanks... |
| [01:17:51] | sphery: | not high priority, either |
| [01:18:12] | wagnerrp: | sphery: yeah, im wondering if i should add processing and creation of that back |
| [01:18:23] | wagnerrp: | seeing as how mythtv doesnt actually seem to use that config.xml for anything |
| [01:19:07] | nutron: | sphery: would it suffice to mangle that code to do proper XML parsing and putting the data in the $mysql_conf hash? |
| [01:19:16] | sphery: | wagnerrp: oh, right, perl bindings no longer support mysql.txt, either |
| [01:19:23] | sphery: | so it would only need to support config.xml |
| [01:19:24] | sphery: | forgot |
| [01:19:41] | nutron: | whoa what? |
| [01:19:44] | sphery: | nutron: yeah, I think that would be perfect |
| [01:20:07] | wagnerrp: | nutron: some time back, mythtv dropped the mysql.txt in favor of config.xml |
| [01:20:08] | sphery: | nutron: I forgot that we don't have to support mysql.txt in the Perl bindings (since we don't currently support it there) |
| [01:20:18] | wagnerrp: | except it didnt... and doesnt really use config.xml |
| [01:20:19] | wagnerrp: | go figure |
| [01:20:24] | sphery: | it does use config.xml |
| [01:20:31] | sphery: | I have 0 mysql.txts on any of my systems |
| [01:20:54] | wagnerrp: | sphery: when i set up my dev vm, i did it with no mysql.txt |
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| [01:21:06] | nutron: | k, drop support for mysql.txt, use config.xml exclusively. |
| [01:21:07] | wagnerrp: | and the frontend errored, saying it couldnt find it |
| [01:21:07] | nutron: | got it |
| [01:21:15] | wagnerrp: | ran me through the database config |
| [01:21:21] | wagnerrp: | even though i had a proper config.xml |
| [01:21:43] | sphery: | nutron: actually, the perl bindings already dropped support for mysql.txt--that's what I forgot. You /could/ however, change that comment on line 260 to say config.xml so it's a proper comment :) |
| [01:22:17] | nutron: | lol that's what I read :), good catch. |
| [01:22:45] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I'd love to know why... I really don't have mysql.txt on my systems and it works fine--including my dev system with trunk |
| [01:22:57] | wagnerrp: | well i could give it another try |
| [01:23:05] | wagnerrp: | but it refused to do anything until i recreated that file |
| [01:23:17] | sphery: | wagnerrp: it will prompt for info if you don't have some settings in the DB |
| [01:23:44] | sphery: | I don't remember which... but basically, I know the language prompt comes up sometimes when I mess with the settings... |
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| [01:24:19] | sphery: | On a new config, we may need to allow just config.xml... |
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| [01:25:52] | sphery: | may be that the prompt code will prompt if the IP/hostname settings are missing and if there's no mysql.txt (and it doesn't look for config.xml...) |
| [01:26:08] | sphery: | if so, I should fix that |
| [01:26:42] | nutron: | sphery, wagnerrp ... can you run this in your shell? I just read that XML::Simple may not be included in some distros... I don't know which ones. |
| [01:26:45] | nutron: | perl -MXML::Simple -e 'print "I can read XML!\n"'; |
| [01:26:50] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so, for config files--like contrib/config_files/lirc/* --make a new non-script category but still include Script info tags? |
| [01:26:59] | nutron: | uhh, you can exclude that semi-colon |
| [01:27:06] | nutron: | or keep it, whatever :P |
| [01:27:13] | sphery: | I thought XML::Simple was a separate package |
| [01:27:23] | nutron: | it's core in debian |
| [01:27:29] | nutron: | as of 5.10 |
| [01:28:01] | wagnerrp: | sphery: sure, i guess just mark them as category 'lirc config', and make their filename all be ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [01:28:14] | nutron: | XML::LibXML is core for sure, it's been there forever |
| [01:28:32] | sphery: | nutron: well, using a source install of Perl, I had to install XML-Simple-2.18 , but I think it's OK for the Perl bindings to rely on it. :) |
| [01:28:47] | nutron: | sphery: recent source install? |
| [01:28:50] | sphery: | Pretty much all of the useful Perl scripts will always need some kind of XML stuff |
| [01:29:04] | sphery: | yeah, 5.10.1 |
| [01:29:07] | nutron: | :o |
| [01:29:13] | sphery: | no biggie... just use it |
| [01:29:21] | sphery: | better than a hack that can cause problems |
| [01:29:28] | nutron: | XML::LibXML is core, i'll use that instead |
| [01:29:55] | sphery: | heh, I had to install XML-LibXML-1.70 |
| [01:29:56] | wagnerrp: | 'cant locate XML/Simple.pm' |
| [01:29:59] | iamlindoro: | strtok got lost, I guess |
| [01:30:11] | nutron: | it's just .. bigger .. fatter .. but just as nice (if not nicer)... kinda like my cousin Olga |
| [01:30:12] | nutron: | wtf?! |
| [01:30:20] | nutron: | lol! |
| [01:30:20] | sphery: | Use XML::Simple |
| [01:32:06] | nutron: | I'll go re-read the perldocs, see what's considered core, I'd rather not install something if not needed. |
| [01:32:18] | nutron: | Though I don't remember ever installing those modules. |
| [01:32:25] | nutron: | wagnerrp: what distro? |
| [01:32:38] | wagnerrp: | no distro |
| [01:32:44] | sphery: | bsd? |
| [01:32:53] | wagnerrp: | free* |
| [01:32:54] | nutron: | lfs? |
| [01:33:02] | nutron: | oh ok. |
| [01:33:10] | sphery: | Isn't FreeBSD the one MS thinks is least viral? |
| [01:33:16] | sphery: | or was that NetBSD? |
| [01:33:38] | wagnerrp: | if i tried it on any of my linux boxes, they would probably already have the necessary perl modules due to mythweather requirements |
| [01:33:57] | sphery: | yeah, agreed... any sane GNU/Linux distro will have it, anyway |
| [01:34:12] | sphery: | *BSD and MacOS l^Husers can install it |
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| [01:34:25] | wagnerrp: | i think theyre not afraid of netbsd, since netbsd is designed to run on all sorts of hardware microsoft doesnt want to use anyway |
| [01:34:35] | sphery: | ah, that may be it |
| [01:34:45] | strtok: | hello. how do you enable nvidia audio support on ubuntu for HDMI audio? |
| [01:34:46] | nutron: | XML::Parser is core, using the expat library. |
| [01:35:08] | nutron: | What are the dependencies of mythweather? |
| [01:35:13] | ** nutron goes to look at the source ** | |
| [01:35:22] | wagnerrp: | dont have one of those either |
| [01:35:26] | sphery: | hmmm... I installed XML-Parser-2.36 |
| [01:35:40] | nutron: | ok perldoc.perl.org is crap... wth |
| [01:35:42] | sphery: | still, anyone /should/ have XML::Simple, so... |
| [01:36:03] | nutron: | Ok, I'll go on that. |
| [01:36:06] | sphery: | maybe they say it's "core" meaning "should always be installed--even if it's not in the perl source package, itself" |
| [01:36:52] | nutron: | maybe, like you said 20 times, I'll use XML::Simple :D |
| [01:37:30] | sphery: | lol |
| [01:38:02] | sphery: | Anyway--despite crushing your hopes multiple times--I /do/ appreciate the work you're doing. :) |
| [01:38:30] | nutron: | hah don't worry, I come from a background of being beaten. :P |
| [01:38:41] | nutron: | Of course I'm talking about being in the software industry |
| [01:40:07] | rstory: | hi.. is there a good way to check the status of a remote system with just ssh access? |
| [01:41:10] | wagnerrp: | status of a frontend? |
| [01:41:13] | rstory: | the router in front of my remote system got switched out, and the machine's ip changed.. i'm trying to figure out if I've updated all the right places and it's working.. |
| [01:41:16] | rstory: | backend |
| [01:41:26] | wagnerrp: | check your logs |
| [01:41:31] | sphery: | nutron: oh, so you use Windows a lot? |
| [01:41:34] | sphery: | :) |
| [01:42:00] | nutron: | Nah, that'd be insulting. |
| [01:42:01] | rstory: | wagnerrp: I see the frontend (on the same machine) connecting in the backend log... |
| [01:42:13] | nutron: | Haven't used windows since about 2001 or so. |
| [01:42:33] | rstory: | is the a cli way to see what the encoder statuses are? |
| [01:43:30] | wagnerrp: | wget http://<backend ip>:6544/xml -O - |
| [01:43:37] | nutron: | wget http://yourbackendip:6544/xml ... |
| [01:43:44] | wagnerrp: | woo! |
| [01:43:45] | nutron: | beat me to it |
| [01:44:36] | rstory: | unfortunately mythweb hasn't survived the ip change.. |
| [01:44:41] | rstory: | cool... state="0" sleepstatus="8" connected="1" |
| [01:44:41] | sphery: | why not: lynx http://<backend ip>:6544/ |
| [01:45:21] | nutron: | rstory: it's not mythweb |
| [01:46:09] | rstory: | yes, i know.. i was just mentioning it as an aside.. it's the next thing i need to fix... |
| [01:46:15] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so on the lirc config files, do they need to be a subcat of Scripts to be found by the download code? |
| [01:46:37] | rstory: | mythweb is returning php errors: Warning: require(modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream |
| [01:46:52] | sphery: | rstory: yeah, that's because your DB info is broken |
| [01:47:15] | sphery: | rstory: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8158 |
| [01:47:18] | rstory: | i've updated the IP in all mysql.txt, the two in the settings DB, and /etc/mythtv/config.xml |
| [01:47:19] | wagnerrp: | sphery: to be found by the download code, they just need to have a {{Script info}} tag |
| [01:47:25] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt even need to be filled with anything |
| [01:47:30] | sphery: | rstory: what about in mythweb conf? |
| [01:47:38] | sphery: | wagnerrp: nice... |
| [01:47:48] | sphery: | so maybe make a whole new Configuration Files category |
| [01:48:07] | wagnerrp: | of course it will just get filled with a bunch of 'unknown' and 'none', and be next to useless |
| [01:49:14] | sphery: | thx |
| [01:50:04] | rstory: | sphery: YES! that what what I was missing... thanks! |
| [01:51:15] | wagnerrp: | sphery: if you want to put one up, i can make some edits to make it work well |
| [01:51:35] | rstory: | cool.. scheduled a new recording via mythweb, and it show's the encoder is now recording... |
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| [01:52:33] | sphery: | wagnerrp: just starting that now |
| [01:52:35] | rstory: | whew... luckily i think i only missed one show in the 2 hours it took to get back into the system, find everywhere to fix, and update the addr... |
| [01:53:09] | sphery: | wow, we have a ton of contrib/config_files |
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| [01:54:03] | rstory: | thanks again, and good night. :-) |
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| [01:55:04] | PeaceKeeper: | Bummer I cant get espn3.com full screen in mythbrowser because I can not figure how to select something on a flash menu. |
| [01:56:01] | wagnerrp: | you should complain |
| [01:56:06] | wagnerrp: | after all, you are paying to use it |
| [01:56:34] | PeaceKeeper: | I am not complaining. I think mythbrowser rocks :) and yes i do pay for espn3.com |
| [01:56:44] | wagnerrp: | 3? or 360? |
| [01:56:48] | Wicked: | im looking to get a second remote for a frontend...will any windows media center remote work in linux? or is each model different then the next? |
| [01:57:05] | PeaceKeeper: | well it is 3 now / they renamed the new interface esnp3 |
| [01:57:07] | Wicked: | like i see http://www.amazon.com/Mediagate-Certified-Inf . . . 2&sr=8-9 |
| [01:57:11] | PeaceKeeper: | espn3** |
| [01:57:43] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what 3 is, but 360 charges ISPs some considerable amount a month per user for access |
| [01:57:52] | PeaceKeeper: | I think the issue is flash some how wont take the commands i set up on the bindings |
| [01:58:06] | PeaceKeeper: | Yes espn360 is now espn 3 |
| [01:58:18] | PeaceKeeper: | And I get it because of my ISP |
| [01:58:52] | PeaceKeeper: | I am AT&T on on connection and Cox on the other. Both get me access to espn360 / espn3 |
| [01:58:55] | wagnerrp: | i really like how my ISP just tacked that on to the cost of my service, and doesnt give me the option of not getting me |
| [01:59:05] | wagnerrp: | s/me/it/ |
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| [01:59:20] | PeaceKeeper: | Hehe, yea Cox did that too. :( |
| [01:59:43] | PeaceKeeper: | at least I think that is part of what the higher price was for |
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| [02:00:24] | PeaceKeeper: | I think the issue is more flash than website / mythbrowser |
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| [02:01:15] | PeaceKeeper: | On a side note: looks like 0.23–231_r24158 is on atrpms and on stable repo |
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| [02:01:35] | iamlindoro: | PeaceKeeper, as I told you yesterday, flash steals focus-- think of it as its own little walled off garden-- no keybindings will have *any* effect there |
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| [02:02:08] | iamlindoro: | This is the case in firefox and other browsers as well-- when flash has focus, the browser gets nothing |
| [02:02:18] | sphery: | Flash still eats keystrokes... Current status. |
| [02:02:23] | wagnerrp: | consider it more of a shrubbery, with thorn bushes |
| [02:02:31] | sphery: | a briar patch? |
| [02:02:38] | wagnerrp: | nnnnnnnnii |
| [02:03:18] | PeaceKeeper: | I am trying to figure out of there is a url that takes me straight to full screen :) but if not I will just live with it till something better comes a long. |
| [02:03:48] | iamlindoro: | take, for example, youtube. Play a video. Now click somewhere OUTSIDE of the flash widget. Press alt-F in Firefox. You get the file menu. Now press a button in the flash player, and hit alt-f again. You get fullscrfeen video |
| [02:04:10] | iamlindoro: | Note that player keyboard shortcuts are going to be different with every single player |
| [02:04:13] | iamlindoro: | so once again, yay flash |
| [02:04:34] | PeaceKeeper: | hehe |
| [02:05:56] | sphery: | Well, we can just get the source code for flash player and modify it... oh, wait... |
| [02:06:36] | ** wagnerrp votes for going releaseless, and just tagging certain dates as something we consider stable ** | |
| [02:06:37] | sphery: | The downfall of the World Wide Web was the Flash flood. |
| [02:06:52] | sphery: | If only we had some Ark on which we could have put 2 of each good web site... |
| [02:07:00] | iamlindoro: | Sphery and Steve Jobs, sitting in a tree |
| [02:07:06] | sphery: | heh |
| [02:07:43] | wagnerrp: | f-i-n-g-e-r-i-n-g.... their phones... |
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| [02:07:54] | PeaceKeeper: | I guess I just need a mouse on the system (?). |
| [02:08:03] | sphery: | recommendations for page naming for a config file: lircrc.native.example.hauppauge ? |
| [02:08:06] | iamlindoro: | If flash is critical to you, pretty much |
| [02:08:10] | sphery: | lircrc.native.example.mceusb2 |
| [02:08:15] | sphery: | etc. |
| [02:08:16] | wagnerrp: | PeaceKeeper: you can get remotes and keyboards with integrated mice |
| [02:08:23] | PeaceKeeper: | It is not, but just thinking / typing out load |
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| [02:08:38] | sphery: | I have no idea what "native" means, so I was thinking, "lircrc_example_mceusb" |
| [02:08:41] | sphery: | 2 |
| [02:08:51] | wagnerrp: | is there an mceusb2? |
| [02:09:07] | iamlindoro: | mceusb2 is what most of us think of mceusb |
| [02:09:08] | sphery: | # lircrc config file for the Microsoft Media Center Edition Remote, model 1039 |
| [02:09:11] | sphery: | don't know? |
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| [02:09:12] | wagnerrp: | i thought the old and new just got merged into one mceusb |
| [02:09:18] | iamlindoro: | yeah, they are now |
| [02:09:22] | sphery: | ok, maybe a redirect for the mce page :) |
| [02:09:36] | sphery: | ok, so "lircrc_example_mceusb" |
| [02:09:49] | iamlindoro: | Underscores bad! |
| [02:09:51] | iamlindoro: | English good! |
| [02:09:55] | sphery: | the name is critical since changing it is difficult |
| [02:10:12] | sphery: | I thought underscores and none were identical in mediawiki |
| [02:10:13] | PeaceKeeper: | I guess I need to install vnc so I can upgrade my headless backend to .23 and run mythtv-setup |
| [02:10:38] | wagnerrp: | lircrc_mceusb_ctu_bd9_x264 |
| [02:10:42] | PeaceKeeper: | I can not wait to try out .23. Thx for all the hard work! |
| [02:10:55] | sphery: | wagnerrp: forgot the SCREENER |
| [02:10:59] | wagnerrp: | PeaceKeeper: so dont wait, its available now |
| [02:11:13] | sphery: | he's updating! |
| [02:11:18] | PeaceKeeper: | Oh I am not waiting :) |
| [02:11:29] | sphery: | but if it doesn't work, don't blame me |
| [02:11:35] | sphery: | just because I told you to upgrade |
| [02:12:05] | PeaceKeeper: | I am install vnc, new kernel (for native pvr-2250), and then .23 |
| [02:12:28] | PeaceKeeper: | Oh I wont :) I have been wanting to do it, you just pushed me over the edge :) |
| [02:12:42] | sphery: | I do that to a lot of people |
| [02:12:56] | sphery: | not always MythTV users |
| [02:13:35] | PeaceKeeper: | my box just crashed!!! sphery!!!! /j |
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| [02:14:01] | sphery: | heh |
| [02:14:07] | sphery: | it was vnc! |
| [02:14:53] | PeaceKeeper: | Most likely.. but easier that dragging monitor to closet and find a spot in the rack |
| [02:15:33] | wagnerrp: | sphery: would it be better just to put those files on the page of the remote itself? |
| [02:15:44] | nutron: | PeaceKeeper: ssh -X host; mythtv-setup .. wouldn't that work nicer than vnc? |
| [02:15:49] | sphery: | wagnerrp: works for me |
| [02:16:01] | sphery: | then just put them in the config files category? |
| [02:16:15] | PeaceKeeper: | humm, i have never done that. it work from a mac? |
| [02:16:28] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MCE_Remote#Example_lircrc_config_file |
| [02:16:50] | wagnerrp: | sure, that works |
| [02:16:56] | sphery: | that was already there |
| [02:16:59] | wagnerrp: | just put it in a codebox rather than a pre |
| [02:17:02] | sphery: | what's the Media:Example.ogg under it |
| [02:17:05] | wagnerrp: | so it can be picked up by the scanner |
| [02:17:13] | sphery: | I guess I have to compare that one to the one in SVN |
| [02:17:46] | wagnerrp: | interesting... its not in a pre |
| [02:17:57] | wagnerrp: | i guess when you indent a block, mediawiki automatically does that |
| [02:18:08] | sphery: | yeah |
| [02:18:15] | sphery: | I've been using pre as it's more flexible |
| [02:18:21] | sphery: | and doesn't add unnecessary spaces |
| [02:18:24] | sphery: | I'll reformat it |
| [02:18:37] | sphery: | but again, there's a totally different one in SVN, so now I have to compare them |
| [02:18:38] | wagnerrp: | hold on, im going to mess around with it a bit |
| [02:18:51] | wagnerrp: | come up with a good format |
| [02:18:55] | sphery: | Example.ogg is gone, now |
| [02:19:22] | sphery: | wagnerrp: are you comparing the one in SVN? |
| [02:19:38] | sphery: | contrib/config_files/lirc/lircrc.native.example.mceusb2 |
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| [02:19:49] | wagnerrp: | no, im just using the one in there for now |
| [02:19:59] | wagnerrp: | you can mess with it later if you think the one in contrib is better |
| [02:21:19] | sphery: | I have no clue |
| [02:21:22] | sphery: | I use neither of them |
| [02:21:32] | sphery: | but I'd have to at least know the differences |
| [02:21:40] | sphery: | this is why I hate the ones in contrib... |
| [02:25:00] | sphery: | OK, they're totally different |
| [02:25:18] | sphery: | So, I'm going back to my original approach and just using a category page with individual examples |
| [02:25:24] | PeaceKeeper: | what remote do yo you have? |
| [02:25:27] | sphery: | and people can choose the one/write info on why to use that versus others |
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| [02:25:36] | momelod: | greetings channel |
| [02:26:08] | sphery: | I'm using an ATI Remote Wonder (which has all sorts of issues, but has the one feature I want--sends a command to a computer using RF, not IR) |
| [02:26:23] | wagnerrp: | hmm... |
| [02:26:35] | wagnerrp: | seems ill need to put an override if the first character is ~ |
| [02:26:41] | PeaceKeeper: | I have a mceusb lirc config running. but it is ugly! |
| [02:26:43] | sphery: | wagnerrp: better to not support that |
| [02:26:44] | wagnerrp: | '~/bin/~/.mythtv/lircrc' doesnt work too well |
| [02:26:53] | sphery: | wagnerrp: make them always use <pre> blocks for auto-download |
| [02:27:13] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [02:27:27] | momelod: | i've a small issue w/ my frontend. i have two frontends, one on my laptop, the other on the backend which is hooked up to my tv. on both my frontends, when i start playing videos, the window looses focus. the frontend does not respond to keystrokes until i alt-tab between windows, going back to the frontend gets my keyboard responding again. |
| [02:27:31] | sphery: | wagnerrp: you don't mean first character of the line, then... nvm |
| [02:27:35] | sphery: | wagnerrp: btw, Category:Configuration_Files\ |
| [02:27:39] | sphery: | without the end \ |
| [02:27:45] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Configuration_Files |
| [02:28:36] | PeaceKeeper: | momelod: are you using internal player? |
| [02:28:44] | momelod: | PeaceKeeper, i am |
| [02:29:19] | PeaceKeeper: | humm and a windows manager? |
| [02:29:19] | momelod: | always preffered the internal player so that my recordings and videos have the same controls |
| [02:29:27] | sphery: | ah, "native" means MythTV native LIRC support--as opposed to irxevent |
| [02:29:34] | PeaceKeeper: | momelod: same here :) |
| [02:29:44] | momelod: | laptop is metacity, backend is compiz |
| [02:30:05] | sphery: | momelod: you're using 0.22-fixes and you have a bookmark on the video, right? |
| [02:30:29] | sphery: | momelod: if so, upgrade to 0.23-fixes (or maybe even current 0.22-fixes) or don't use bookmarks on MythVideo videos |
| [02:30:36] | PeaceKeeper: | umm i use xfce on all my frontends. I dont know anything about metacity. Or course I am not sure that is the issue |
| [02:31:00] | PeaceKeeper: | oh look. sphery is pushing someone else over the edge :) |
| [02:31:05] | wagnerrp: | sphery: anyway, i would use that as a guide as what to give the downloader |
| [02:31:08] | momelod: | sphery, i believe it happens on vids with and with out the bookmarks, but i will have to test to see if there is a difference |
| [02:31:20] | wagnerrp: | although it should probably be 'LIRC application config' |
| [02:31:41] | wagnerrp: | and then maybe lircd.conf could be 'LIRC signal config', or something like that |
| [02:31:43] | wagnerrp: | to keep them separate |
| [02:32:03] | momelod: | sphery, mythfrontend version: branches/release-0-22-fixes [22594] www.mythtv.org (from mythbuntu repos) |
| [02:33:30] | momelod: | is this a known bug? cause i find it to much of a coincidence for me to have this issue on two separate frontends |
| [02:35:47] | sphery: | wagnerrp: why would I get Author, short, long, and category fields are preferred, however all fields are optional. |
| [02:36:28] | wagnerrp: | whoops |
| [02:36:31] | wagnerrp: | try now |
| [02:36:34] | sphery: | works |
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| [02:36:53] | sphery: | thx |
| [02:40:00] | momelod: | sphery, is there a way to disable bookmarks? |
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| [02:42:06] | sphery: | wagnerrp: what's the difference between name and short? |
| [02:42:41] | wagnerrp: | name is used for sorting, short is a small description |
| [02:42:58] | sphery: | momelod: you have to clear the bookmark--either with the "Clear bookmark on playback" and then playing it back or "Alternate clear and save bookmark" and playing it back and hitting SELECT to clear the bookmark |
| [02:43:12] | wagnerrp: | basically, name only exists for scenarios where you want to label it by something other than the filename |
| [02:43:14] | momelod: | thanks |
| [02:43:15] | sphery: | wagnerrp: and if we don't do a name it uses wiki page name? |
| [02:43:19] | sphery: | ah, got it |
| [02:43:22] | sphery: | thx |
| [02:43:36] | wagnerrp: | sphery: if not provided, it will pull the name of the largest file on the page |
| [02:43:48] | wagnerrp: | assuming the largest file is the most important script |
| [02:45:31] | sphery: | I'm going with category lircrc configs |
| [02:45:34] | sphery: | and lircd configs |
| [02:45:41] | sphery: | er, just plain config |
| [02:48:15] | sphery: | figure that's what users will be expecting/understand (using the actual file name--ignoring the . in .lircrc) |
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| [03:06:57] | wagnerrp: | ack... sphery, the names, THE NAMES! |
| [03:07:12] | wagnerrp: | (unless you wanted it to show up as '~/.mythtv/lircrc' of course) |
| [03:07:18] | sphery: | feel free to change them |
| [03:07:28] | sphery: | ah, I see |
| [03:07:30] | sphery: | will fix |
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| [03:08:10] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so, like: |name=lircrc – Zenith VCR Plus |
| [03:08:20] | wagnerrp: | sure |
| [03:08:47] | sphery: | thx |
| [03:08:59] | wagnerrp: | as it is, they show up as http://mythtv.pastebin.com/6kjy5Mmb |
| [03:09:46] | wagnerrp: | i should have it omit the 'short' if none is given |
| [03:10:09] | sphery: | I thought you were complaining about page names |
| [03:10:28] | sphery: | those are stessing my creativity, as is |
| [03:11:04] | wagnerrp: | no, just the names as they show up in the program |
| [03:11:09] | JohnQ: | I've got 4 HDHRs (2 devices, 2 tuners each) and a DCT6200 all sharing the same listing source. The DCT gets more channels than the HDHRs. I tried to download the channel data from schedulesdirect using the DCT in mythtv-setup, but it doesn't actually add the channels which I have added in sd. Whats up here? |
| [03:11:46] | wagnerrp: | JohnQ: you need to make two separate sources, just feed them off the same lineup on SD |
| [03:11:57] | JohnQ: | Ahhh I see. |
| [03:12:47] | sphery: | wagnerrp: there, fixed.. thanks for the heads up before I finished. :) |
| [03:13:12] | sphery: | where heads up = your repeating what you told me earlier :) |
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| [03:27:13] | wagnerrp: | i should make another attempt at registering a livetv session in the bindings |
| [03:27:27] | wagnerrp: | ive had the code sitting there mostly finished for about five months now |
| [03:28:12] | wagnerrp: | and now handling backend events, i can probably do it properly |
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| [03:39:07] | iamlindoro: | Congrats to the winners of our theming competition (at least, those present), mag0o and gbutters! |
| [03:41:22] | [R]: | iamlindoro: its going to be merged into 23-fixes right? |
| [03:41:29] | iamlindoro: | Already has been |
| [03:41:33] | iamlindoro: | (just now) |
| [03:41:45] | iamlindoro: | The first place winner is, anyway |
| [03:41:53] | [R]: | ah, i see it now |
| [03:45:05] | sphery: | congrats mag0o and gbutters !!! |
| [03:45:58] | [R]: | where are the other themes? |
| [03:46:00] | [R]: | i saw them once |
| [03:46:02] | [R]: | but coudln't find them |
| [03:46:12] | sphery: | [R]: http://www.mythtv.org/ |
| [03:46:21] | sphery: | see the "MythTV Theming Competition Results" Announcement |
| [03:46:41] | [R]: | ah |
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| [03:47:48] | JohnQ: | are there pictures? or just tarballs of the themes? |
| [03:48:03] | iamlindoro: | There were pictures when voting happened-- you had your chance ;) |
| [03:48:07] | iamlindoro: | Now you get to download them :) |
| [03:49:51] | [R]: | that's pretty extreme... the lcars shows my free space in the watch recordings screen |
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| [05:15:07] | iamlindoro: | Heh, cool: http://blu-raystats.com/Stats/TechStats.php |
| [05:15:43] | wagnerrp: | HAH |
| [05:16:00] | wagnerrp: | 14.9mbps mpeg2 for '10.5: Apocalypse' |
| [05:16:08] | wagnerrp: | the quality was as bad as the earthquake |
| [05:16:10] | iamlindoro: | heh, yeah |
| [05:16:13] | [R]: | 15 is bad? |
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| [05:16:24] | iamlindoro: | for a blu ray |
| [05:18:12] | wagnerrp: | 2001 is 13.4mbps, but fills 37.4GB |
| [05:18:23] | wagnerrp: | they must have a /ton/ of extra crap on there |
| [05:19:18] | [R]: | is that good or bad? |
| [05:19:36] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, it's a LONG movie, too |
| [05:19:52] | iamlindoro: | [R], anything sub-20 on a Bluray is pretty horrid |
| [05:20:05] | wagnerrp: | sure, but its only like 6GB an hour |
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| [05:22:07] | wagnerrp: | batman begins is awful too |
| [05:22:13] | wagnerrp: | for shame chris nolan |
| [05:23:59] | iamlindoro: | All the IMAX stuff has nice high bitrate... and wrong codec, boo |
| [05:25:29] | iamlindoro: | If you filter by bitrate > 35 Mbit, the first watchable movie is Princess Bride |
| [05:27:34] | wagnerrp: | seems my HDDVD copy is equally poor |
| [05:27:42] | wagnerrp: | a mere 15.6GB for a 140min movie |
| [05:27:49] | [R]: | does it really make that big of a differnece? i have stuff t hats low and it seems fine to me |
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| [05:44:37] | dougt: | is there a way to change the preferred tuner of a Program object (via the python binding) |
| [05:44:44] | clever: | wagnerrp: ok, now that i have the chanid/starttime, how do i give them to InUseProgs, InUseProgs(chanid=foo,starttime=foo).getAllEntries() |
| [05:44:46] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [05:45:05] | wagnerrp: | dougt: there is no way to set the preferred tuner period |
| [05:45:24] | dougt: | in mythweb there is. |
| [05:45:29] | wagnerrp: | InUseProgs((chanid,starttime)).getAllEntries() |
| [05:45:31] | clever: | and in mythfrontend |
| [05:45:33] | wagnerrp: | is there? |
| [05:45:37] | dougt: | yeah |
| [05:45:44] | clever: | when editing the rule in mythfrontend ive seen it |
| [05:45:53] | dougt: | under advanced. |
| [05:46:09] | wagnerrp: | there is... |
| [05:46:35] | clever: | ive used it before to make things prefer the pvr150 over the framegrabber |
| [05:47:26] | wagnerrp: | looks like it creates a single-use rule with prefinput set |
| [05:47:49] | clever: | is_in_use = InUseProgs((rec.chanid,rec.starttime)).getAllEntries() |
| [05:47:51] | clever: | AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'chanid' |
| [05:48:00] | wagnerrp: | what is 'rec'? |
| [05:48:08] | clever: | the result of db.searchRecorded(basename=src_files[0][1]) |
| [05:48:12] | wagnerrp: | searchRecorded returns a list of matches |
| [05:48:16] | clever: | ah |
| [05:48:34] | clever: | RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded |
| [05:48:46] | wagnerrp: | wee... those are fun |
| [05:48:48] | dougt: | wagnerrp: is it possible to create one of these single use rules from python? |
| [05:49:02] | wagnerrp: | dougt: see the Record class |
| [05:49:20] | wagnerrp: | i have a 'record' method set up for the 'Guide' class already |
| [05:49:28] | wagnerrp: | but i hadnt thought to do so for the Program class |
| [05:49:38] | clever: | wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/jaskxq8N |
| [05:51:15] | wagnerrp: | no no no... |
| [05:51:31] | wagnerrp: | getAllEntries() returns a list of all lines in inuseprograms |
| [05:51:39] | wagnerrp: | you just want the one that matches your recording |
| [05:53:02] | clever: | is_in_use = InUseProgs((rec[0].chanid,rec[0].starttime)) |
| [05:53:08] | clever: | RuntimeError: maximum recursion depth exceeded |
| [05:54:27] | wagnerrp: | yeah, it would |
| [05:54:35] | wagnerrp: | your trunk revision is too old for that class |
| [05:54:48] | clever: | its only a few days old |
| [05:54:50] | wagnerrp: | remove the underscores from those three values |
| [05:54:57] | clever: | ah |
| [05:55:06] | clever: | i was wondering why you had them in the example, the wiki didnt |
| [05:55:19] | wagnerrp: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/24224 |
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| [05:55:45] | clever: | <__main__.InUseProgs object at 0x83e388c> looks alot better:) |
| [05:56:01] | dougt: | wagnerrp: how do you got from a Program object to a Record object? |
| [05:56:05] | wagnerrp: | yeah, at the moment it will just return an empty object if no match exists |
| [05:56:15] | clever: | yeah full of none's |
| [05:56:17] | wagnerrp: | i need to make it throw an error instead |
| [05:56:32] | wagnerrp: | i would love to make it return 'None' |
| [05:56:36] | wagnerrp: | but theres no way to do that in python |
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| [05:57:44] | clever: | wagnerrp: what is allow_empty for then? |
| [05:57:45] | wagnerrp: | dougt: getRecorded() and getProgram() cycle between the two |
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| [05:58:47] | wagnerrp: | allow_empty lets you intentionally make an empty instance |
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| [05:59:07] | wagnerrp: | so that InUseProgs() works, and you can run getAllEntries() |
| [05:59:09] | dougt: | oh... i guess I was confused about RecordedProgram and Record |
| [05:59:16] | wagnerrp: | otherwise InUseProgs() would fail |
| [05:59:21] | clever: | and isnt that the exact oposite of what i want here, to not create fake data? |
| [05:59:53] | wagnerrp: | if you try to match it against and line in the database, and it fails, it should always error |
| [06:00:04] | clever: | ah |
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| [06:02:45] | wagnerrp: | ok, now that behaves properly, throws a MythError if no or multiple matches are found on a _pull() |
| [06:03:10] | clever: | i'll fix mine when i update to that version, for now i just confirm the starttime is what i asked for |
| [06:03:15] | clever: | if (is_in_use.starttime == rec[0].starttime): |
| [06:03:31] | wagnerrp: | or, just confirm its not none |
| [06:03:33] | wagnerrp: | None |
| [06:03:49] | clever: | it could have gone insane and returned some other row:P |
| [06:04:02] | wagnerrp: | only if the starttime matched |
| [06:04:43] | clever: | and chanid |
| [06:04:44] | clever: | i'm sending both in the WHERE |
| [06:04:53] | wagnerrp: | right |
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| [06:06:53] | wagnerrp: | im adding a 'record' to Program, which will add a SingleRecord rule to the database and run the scheduler if the end time is after the present |
| [06:07:11] | clever: | need to fill my drive up more now, everything is above the auto-expire limit |
| [06:07:38] | clever: | another thing i should add, is balancing the auto-expirable recordings |
| [06:07:51] | clever: | it has a habbit of recording to a near-full drive that cant expire anything |
| [06:08:01] | clever: | and then expiring the new recording instead of year old ones |
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| [06:09:23] | dougt: | wagnerrp: will that allow me to change the tuner given a Program object? |
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| [06:10:19] | wagnerrp: | it will create a basic 'Record' class, along with a matching value in the database |
| [06:10:23] | [R]: | i need to lower the bitrate on my sd hdpvr recordings |
| [06:10:26] | wagnerrp: | and return it for further editing |
| [06:10:27] | [R]: | does anyone know what the default is? |
| [06:10:54] | wagnerrp: | same thing as Guide.record does currently |
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| [06:32:12] | dougt: | wagnerrp: do you have any examples of making storage group or tuner input changes on a scheduled Record object using the single use rule you mentioned. |
| [06:32:49] | wagnerrp: | dougt: you just have to initialize a new Record object, and create it |
| [06:33:08] | wagnerrp: | note that the dates and times are a bit funky |
| [06:33:51] | JohnQ: | Anyone ever notice that you can sometimes hear the cpu activity through your myth? Any idea how to clean that up? |
| [06:33:55] | wagnerrp: | and youll want to use Record.kSingleRecord as the type |
| [06:34:06] | wagnerrp: | JohnQ: get a better sound card, or use digital audio |
| [06:34:15] | wagnerrp: | s/better// |
| [06:34:26] | dougt: | wagnerrp: will that make two recordings — one for the existing one, and one for the new when created when you create the new Record object? |
| [06:34:45] | wagnerrp: | dougt: to be honest, i dont know off hand |
| [06:34:53] | wagnerrp: | ill have to look at what mythweb does specifically |
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| [06:36:21] | dougt: | i think the input is just another attribute like the storage group. |
| [06:37:36] | wagnerrp: | are you talking about permanently setting a preferred? |
| [06:37:45] | wagnerrp: | or adding an override for a single recording? |
| [06:38:13] | wagnerrp: | if youre talking an override, im not quite sure how that is to be handled |
| [06:38:23] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if you have to refer it against the parent rule |
| [06:38:27] | wagnerrp: | as there is a 'parentid' |
| [06:39:30] | dougt: | wagnerrp: just changing it for a single recording is what I am most interested in. |
| [06:39:56] | wagnerrp: | for a single recording, you want to make a new rule, rather than try to use a pre-existing one |
| [06:40:02] | dougt: | it would be nice to be able to get a Record or Recorded object, and change a attribute, and have that update the db. |
| [06:40:42] | wagnerrp: | see MythDB.searchRecord() |
| [06:41:03] | dougt: | wagnerrp: basically what I want is to be able to enumerate upcoming recordings, and change their input based on channel # or whatever. |
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| [07:52:32] | simonckenyon: | can i ask a question about mythvideo and metadata? |
| [07:52:47] | [R]: | i dont know... are you able to? |
| [07:53:02] | simonckenyon: | yes. i am |
| [07:53:05] | wagnerrp: | hes referring to the channel rule... 'dont ask to ask, just ask' |
| [07:53:20] | wagnerrp: | meaning just ask your question, and someone will be around to answer eventually |
| [07:53:28] | simonckenyon: | ok. i had prison break series 2 ripped |
| [07:53:49] | simonckenyon: | i named them prison-break-s02exx.mp4 |
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| [07:54:33] | wagnerrp: | im guessing you probably want this page... http://mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing |
| [07:55:11] | simonckenyon: | when i tried to download the coverart and program descriptions – it did not get anything. fair enough; so i changed the name <i><metadata><edit metadata> |
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| [07:56:01] | simonckenyon: | then i can download the coverart and description. so i changed all the file names and rescanned. the names all remained as prison-break. is this expected behaviour? |
| [07:56:14] | wagnerrp: | are you using 0.23? |
| [07:56:27] | wagnerrp: | starting with 0.23, all files are now hashed |
| [07:56:47] | wagnerrp: | so if you rename them, or move them, they will be recognized as the old files, and your metadata will be retained |
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| [07:57:13] | wagnerrp: | this does have the adverse side effect that in order to reset the initially parsed data, you have to remove them completely, rescan, and then move them back in place |
| [07:57:57] | simonckenyon: | i am using head from a few days ago. i see what you are saying. |
| [07:58:25] | [R]: | you can also select 'reset metadata' |
| [07:58:40] | simonckenyon: | by the way, the wiki says that "Additionally, MythVideo can parse most/all of the below formats w/ any number of underscores, dashes, spaces, and periods replacing spaces below. " that is not true. |
| [07:58:41] | wagnerrp: | [R]: right, but you have to do that manually on every video |
| [07:59:02] | wagnerrp: | if youve got a lot of files you need to fix, that will be tedious |
| [07:59:40] | simonckenyon: | it sure is tedious. maybe just fixing the lack of "-" handling would be a better option for me. i will have a look tonight. |
| [08:01:37] | simonckenyon: | Iamlindoro wrote that description in the wiki. maybe he will read this and comment. |
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| [08:02:23] | [R]: | i used to name my files [1x23] blah |
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| [08:02:28] | [R]: | mythvideo didnt' do tell well with that |
| [08:04:39] | wagnerrp: | seems you are correct |
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| [08:06:01] | wagnerrp: | simonckenyon: theres no real way it could properly handle that title |
| [08:06:10] | wagnerrp: | as there could feasibly be a show with a dash in the title |
| [08:06:36] | wagnerrp: | so the parsing code cant simply remove it as it could a period or underscore |
| [08:08:20] | wagnerrp: | just looking at the list of today's new shows on thetvdb.com |
| [08:08:25] | simonckenyon: | looking at the code in mythvideo/metadata.cpp i see what you mean. i need to go through my files and replace "-" with "_". then it will work. |
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| [08:09:10] | wagnerrp: | altering the parsing code to work with your (technically incorrect) filename, woudl end up breaking parsing of http://thetvdb.com/index.php?tab=series&id=87501 |
| [08:10:22] | simonckenyon: | i understand. i will update the wiki so nobody else gets caught like that. |
| [08:10:28] | simonckenyon: | thanks for the help. |
| [08:11:10] | wagnerrp: | dashes work as separators between the individual sections, there is just no way it can filter them out within a title or subtitle |
| [08:11:55] | wagnerrp: | and since thetvdb.com provides no fuzzy searching on its own, theres currently no way around it from just changing the filename |
| [08:12:03] | wagnerrp: | the other option would be a mass replace in the database |
| [08:12:25] | wagnerrp: | 'update videometadata set title="Prison Break" where title="prison-break";' |
| [08:12:53] | simonckenyon: | that is a good idea |
| [08:13:54] | wagnerrp: | also, if you want to test out a format before changing to it en masse, the python bindings implement the same parsing code as mythvideo |
| [08:13:56] | simonckenyon: | Query OK, 51 rows affected (0.00 sec) |
| [08:14:19] | wagnerrp: | 'from MythTV import Video; vid=Video().fromFilename(<some filename string>)' |
| [08:14:43] | wagnerrp: | vid will be a new object, with 'title', 'subtitle', 'season', and 'episode' populated |
| [08:15:00] | simonckenyon: | anothe good idea. thanks. |
| [08:15:16] | simonckenyon: | s/the/ther/ |
| [08:16:22] | [R]: | well that's weird... i ws getting crazy buffer underruns with this avi |
| [08:16:25] | [R]: | but mplayer plyas it fine |
| [08:22:46] | simonckenyon: | wagnerrp: just vnc'd into my machine at home and tried it. now works like a charm. thanks for all the help. much appreciated. |
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| [08:24:21] | gbutters: | iamlindoro sphery: thanks |
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| [08:56:22] | [R]: | am i the only one that thinks the last episode of sg1 is sad? |
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| [09:47:03] | ExElNeT: | heya. my schedule is empty. --testsched shows a schedule, --printsched does not. what can I do? |
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| [10:12:22] | tasankovasa: | greetings all |
| [10:13:26] | tasankovasa: | a quick noob question on offer if anyone has an ear to borrow... |
| [10:15:27] | tasankovasa: | alright, typing away in silence... |
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| [10:16:09] | tasankovasa: | Aim is to get a Mythbuntu 9.10 box to serve live TV onto another machine on the network, preferably into XBMC |
| [10:17:01] | tasankovasa: | Where I've got to so far is that the database is being received correctly on the XBMC box, and live TV runs on the local frontend of the Mythbuntu box... |
| [10:17:29] | tasankovasa: | but no live TV on XBMC, and I can't find more settings to tweak |
| [10:17:35] | tasankovasa: | two days into this already :) |
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| [10:18:49] | tasankovasa: | Q is, having set the IP addresses on the backend machine's MythTV Setup correctly, what else should I do to get it to stream over the network? |
| [10:19:24] | tasankovasa: | it's not a firewall issue, everything's open on the inside network |
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| [10:20:37] | tasankovasa: | and since the XMLTV stuff comes up on the XBMC box correct, I should have that lot set up right, so guts say something's still not set on the Mythbuntu backend machine |
| [10:22:20] | tasankovasa: | trying to get XBMC to show live TV just produces nothing at all save for a random error msg 'Playback failed' or something to that effect |
| [10:23:28] | tasankovasa: | any sparks of hope greatly appreciated, cheers :) |
| [10:24:27] | MilkBoy: | any informative messages in the logs? =) |
| [10:29:19] | tasankovasa: | gotta see... |
| [10:38:09] | tasankovasa: | well that's something |
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| [10:39:12] | tasankovasa: | if anyone knows xbmc — i'm seeing DVDPlayer trying to open the myth:// resource and then saying 'unable to spawn live tv' |
| [10:39:34] | tasankovasa: | should it maybe be something else than DVDPlayer? |
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| [10:39:51] | cityLights: | hi all |
| [10:40:07] | tasankovasa: | hiya |
| [10:40:50] | cityLights: | is there a program to transfer the ten recorded shows to a portable player? |
| [10:40:54] | cityLights: | I mean |
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| [10:41:29] | cityLights: | a script for example that will wale up every night at 3AM and copy the ten recent shows to my portable player? |
| [10:46:22] | cityLights: | tasankovasa: ok, how can I search for such a script in google? what keywords to use? |
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| [11:14:41] | tasankovasa: | citylights, i don't know of any such scripts |
| [11:15:03] | tasankovasa: | but there was this thing called mythexport that might do the trick |
| [11:15:48] | tasankovasa: | it transcodes recordings and there's probably a box somewhere where you can type in a command that gets ran after the transcoding |
| [11:15:54] | cityLights: | let me see |
| [11:16:37] | tasankovasa: | i'm a total mythtv noob so this is just a hunch :) |
| [11:17:31] | cityLights: | why is it so quite here? |
| [11:18:00] | tasankovasa: | you might have mythexport copy the transcoded files into some dir and then have a cron job copy whatever's in that dir to your portable device at nighttime |
| [11:18:42] | tasankovasa: | don't know if this channel ever gets very loud :) |
| [11:19:47] | cityLights: | I need to have a list of all files in the portable player, so i can remove the 10 "old" shows and copy 10 new |
| [11:19:56] | xand: | write some perl |
| [11:20:09] | cityLights: | xand: hi |
| [11:20:24] | cityLights: | I mean I am sure someone must have already did this |
| [11:21:02] | cityLights: | I will just need to give this program a few details: how much space , or how many files |
| [11:21:24] | cityLights: | then I can even call it when ever a new show is recorded |
| [11:22:19] | cityLights: | so it will add the new show at a top of a heap , then schedule to transfer the last new files to the portable |
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| [11:22:46] | cityLights: | however, as I said , I also need to remove the the "old" files in order to make room |
| [11:23:15] | cityLights: | xand: can I ask about this in the mailing list? what keywords can I use to find this in google? |
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| [12:50:08] | justinh: | heheh. if anybody cares next time an xbmc user complains they can't play any video from a mythtv backend they shouldn't be using IP addresses in XBMC's myth protocol setup. Only hostnames |
| [12:50:39] | justinh: | ip address entries appear to get listings etc but video playback works by hostname only for some reason |
| [12:51:42] | sulx: | hmm...works for me =) |
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| [12:52:24] | justinh: | sulx: you've obviously got a more up to date version then |
| [12:52:38] | justinh: | that it's not even a method supported here is by the way ;-) |
| [12:52:46] | sulx: | true |
| [12:52:56] | sulx: | used xbmc view shows with buggy subtitles |
| [12:53:12] | sulx: | tho its now fixed (thanks to janneg) |
| [12:53:20] | justinh: | I just prefer not to see my tv recordings as one big list (tm) |
| [12:54:06] | cityLights: | justinh: hi there |
| [12:54:26] | mag0o: | <grammyspeech>thanks iamlindoro for putting on the theme competition and thanks to SD and Hauppauge for the prizes. I also want to thank all of those that took the time to vote :) </grammyspeech> |
| [12:54:51] | ** justinh hides ** | |
| [12:55:08] | cityLights: | justinh: is there a program to transfer the last ten recorded shows to a portable player? |
| [12:55:29] | justinh: | WHY ASK ME?! |
| [12:55:37] | justinh: | there's a whole frickin channel here man |
| [12:55:45] | cityLights: | well, you often here |
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| [12:55:59] | cityLights: | so if anyone knows... you should |
| [12:56:01] | mag0o: | cityLights: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IPod_Export_Solution:_Myth2iPod |
| [12:56:09] | sulx: | there is...its called bash script :P |
| [12:56:50] | cityLights: | sulx: well, I still need to know which shows are on the portable device and remove them to make room |
| [12:57:22] | sulx: | I use rsync to sync transcoded shows to my N900 |
| [12:57:44] | cityLights: | GREAT I also got the N900! |
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| [12:57:56] | justinh: | cityLights: I am not your personal support bitch |
| [12:58:06] | cityLights: | sorry justinh |
| [12:58:07] | sulx: | cityLights: sshfs + rsync = win |
| [12:58:25] | ** justinh made his own podcast export script thankyou very much ** | |
| [12:58:31] | cityLights: | right sulx, but how to limit space usage? |
| [12:58:56] | cityLights: | justinh: care to share it . please? |
| [12:58:59] | justinh: | NO |
| [12:59:12] | justinh: | it's only for audio recordings anyway :) |
| [12:59:48] | justinh: | there's a podcast generator thing lurking somewhere, but it's crafted in python. so I made my own |
| [13:00:39] | cityLights: | please explain this line ^ as I dont understand what podcast has to do with coping recorded shows to a mobile player |
| [13:00:55] | cityLights: | I will still need to pull the shows from the player |
| [13:01:15] | justinh: | podcasts are RSS feeds containing links to media |
| [13:01:58] | cityLights: | right, then I will have the RSS , thing pull the 10 "new" shows? |
| [13:01:59] | justinh: | so you 'subscribe' to the feed in a podcast client & it deals with copying the files to the player |
| [13:02:36] | cityLights: | this is fine as long as the RSS client can limit storage usage |
| [13:02:47] | cityLights: | and limit it to work only in LAN |
| [13:03:15] | cityLights: | nice idea , I admit |
| [13:03:26] | justinh: | easy to do that with apache |
| [13:03:59] | cityLights: | RIGHT! I can tell apache to only answer LAN calls on this vhost |
| [13:04:01] | cityLights: | hmm |
| [13:04:52] | justinh: | step 1. make a user job script to export the recording to a format your portable player can deal with |
| [13:05:32] | cityLights: | - got this allready |
| [13:05:37] | justinh: | step 2. have that script construct an rss file which links to the newly converted files |
| [13:05:52] | justinh: | step 3. clean up the old files |
| [13:06:14] | cityLights: | - this is a good question. how to accomplish this |
| [13:06:18] | justinh: | it's easy to parse a directory, sorted by date & limit it to the 1st ten items |
| [13:06:42] | cityLights: | all on the server side |
| [13:06:45] | cityLights: | ? |
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| [13:06:56] | justinh: | yes |
| [13:07:12] | justinh: | and have it all done by the user job which converts the file |
| [13:07:16] | cityLights: | well, I guess I just never did this myself |
| [13:07:28] | justinh: | the awful python thing I saw needed user intervention to generate the rss file |
| [13:07:58] | cityLights: | well, I can fix that python, as I know python . wish I knew perl |
| [13:08:30] | cityLights: | but as this is so common, someone must have done it already |
| [13:08:39] | justinh: | ugh. pastebin.ca seems broken & pastebin.com doesn't seem to allow file uploads |
| [13:08:51] | cityLights: | I just wish I knew what to tell google – in order to find this |
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| [13:09:45] | justinh: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IPod_Export_Solution:_Myth2iPod |
| [13:10:18] | cityLights: | yes, I started reading it |
| [13:10:26] | cityLights: | ok, I will read it now |
| [13:11:30] | justinh: | it's far better to use XML::Simple etc |
| [13:12:06] | cityLights: | you mean do all the work on the server and just have the client pull it |
| [13:12:31] | justinh: | all the work is done on the server anyway |
| [13:13:58] | cityLights: | long read.. but it is good to know I can ask questions here |
| [13:14:38] | justinh: | http://filebin.ca/ukwfy/makerss.pl |
| [13:15:02] | cityLights: | sweet, thnaks |
| [13:15:31] | justinh: | that won't limit the number of files though |
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| [13:15:58] | justinh: | and it's only geared to work with MP3 files |
| [13:16:26] | cityLights: | but this is a good start, assuming I understand perl |
| [13:16:42] | cityLights: | this is short :-) |
| [13:17:14] | justinh: | foreach my $file ( @files ) will put the filename of each file inside a directory in the $file variable |
| [13:17:18] | justinh: | in turn |
| [13:17:21] | cityLights: | wait , so you use this to transfer new music every day to your player? |
| [13:17:33] | justinh: | not every day |
| [13:17:58] | justinh: | I export radio shows recorded by mythtv (from dvb-t) to my portable storage to play in the car :) |
| [13:18:08] | cityLights: | cool |
| [13:18:13] | cityLights: | must do this too |
| [13:19:02] | justinh: | my script just regenerates the rss file every time |
| [13:21:45] | justinh: | only I don't think the script does anything the way it is now |
| [13:22:11] | cityLights: | ok, but you create a xml, how do you host it? I should read how to host a RSS in apache |
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| [13:23:37] | justinh: | it's just an ordinary *file* |
| [13:23:46] | cityLights: | thanks |
| [13:25:43] | justinh: | doh that file is too old |
| [13:26:26] | justinh: | under if ( $sort ) it should say @files = sort { -M "$dirbase/$a" <=> -M "$dirbase/$b" } (@files); |
| [13:26:42] | justinh: | which puts most recently modified files first in the list :-) |
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| [13:36:06] | justinh: | and if you want to limit the number of items in the rss feed just put |
| [13:36:20] | justinh: | my $count = 0; before the foreach loop |
| [13:37:19] | justinh: | and before the closure of the foreach loop (the } character) put count++; last if ( $count == 10 ); |
| [13:39:07] | justinh: | http://filebin.ca/wcozzh/makepodrss.pl |
| [13:42:22] | justinh: | what on Earth is up with pastebin.ca today anyhow? |
| [13:46:56] | cityLights: | yes |
| [13:47:09] | cityLights: | but I rather limit by size, then by count |
| [13:48:07] | cityLights: | so I need to calculate the size off my new shows, then pick the number of new shows that fit a 5Gb limit |
| [13:48:49] | justinh: | better to limit by count, surely |
| [13:49:16] | mag0o: | pastebin.ca has been giving me 500's for a while now |
| [13:49:27] | justinh: | how big are the transcoded files anyway? |
| [13:50:01] | cityLights: | not sure |
| [13:51:36] | justinh: | I suppose you could make a script delete the last X files to keep the space occupied under 5GB |
| [13:52:33] | cityLights: | accumalte the file size in reverse order then compare with SIZE |
| [13:53:41] | cityLights: | going to eat |
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| [13:54:27] | justinh: | I just manage my own files anyway :) |
| [13:54:49] | justinh: | radio recordings are only a few tens of MB |
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| [14:02:15] | TUplink: | hi all i just setup an iMon Pad remote. with the mythbuntu control center but when i press the arrows it moves like 4 or five spots any ideas not sure where to start |
| [14:04:09] | TUplink: | the chan up/down also makes it move 2 spots |
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| [14:05:48] | cityLights: | thanks again justinh |
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| [14:15:10] | justinh: | TUplink: so you need to play with your lirc config file – probably .lircrc or lircrc – specifically the 'delay' and 'repeat' values for the buttons |
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| [14:16:48] | iamlindoro: | simonckenyon, MythVideo *did* parse your filename properly-- in that it properly identified which portion was the title, which portion was subtitle (none of it), which was season, and which was episode-- in spite of using separator characters-- it did exactly what it was intended to do |
| [14:17:16] | iamlindoro: | It does *not* purport to produce a perfectly lookup-able title when you use anything besides spaces |
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| [14:18:19] | TUplink: | i changed repeat to 2 but it didnt seme to have any affect |
| [14:18:31] | simonckenyon: | i understand that now. i just misuderstood the significance of using "-" in a title. i'm an old unix hand and don't like using spaces in file names. |
| [14:18:44] | iamlindoro: | I understand |
| [14:18:56] | iamlindoro: | FWIW I use dashes too, but I use them as field separators |
| [14:19:10] | justinh: | TUplink: read the lirc docs |
| [14:19:20] | iamlindoro: | (I use spaces within the field itself to avoid having to edit anything) |
| [14:19:21] | simonckenyon: | i will use "_" in future but i just think they look ugly |
| [14:19:24] | TUplink: | justinh: do i have to reload mythtv and lirc? |
| [14:19:44] | justinh: | TUplink: also you have to restart mythfrontend when you change lircrc contents |
| [14:19:59] | TUplink: | lol |
| [14:20:02] | justinh: | you do not have to restart lirc |
| [14:20:04] | TUplink: | that might help LOL |
| [14:21:21] | TUplink: | so im gotta just reload mythfrontend |
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| [15:02:29] | wagnerrp: | any idea what someone might be referring to when they say 'recording filters'? |
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| [15:06:46] | justinh: | wagnerrp: they're mentioned in the docs |
| [15:07:04] | justinh: | "Recording filters are set for each individual channel. These may be used when encoding in software (MPEG-4, RTjpeg) but do not apply when using a capture card with hardware encoding such as those supported by the ivtv driver, DVB, HDTV or MJPEG cards. " |
| [15:07:42] | justinh: | something else I didn't know was possible |
| [15:10:05] | wagnerrp: | video filters and playback filters... as well as custom filters in the transcoding profiles |
| [15:10:12] | wagnerrp: | i have no idea what those could possibly do |
| [15:11:28] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/Using_playback_filters |
| [15:13:28] | wagnerrp: | i suppose these have been largely ignored since the addition of playback profiles? |
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| [15:21:07] | justinh: | no idea. never had cause to use playback filters :) |
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| [15:22:30] | Azelphur: | Hi, I recently tried out mythtv frontend on a windows laptop, It updated my mythvideos database schema. Is there any way to revert this change? |
| [15:22:49] | Azelphur: | I don't mind wiping the mythvideo database completely as it's rather easy to rebuild again (expecially since I only have a few videos) |
| [15:25:16] | wagnerrp: | thats the only simple solution |
| [15:25:25] | Azelphur: | how would I go about doing that? |
| [15:25:51] | Azelphur: | wiping the database and rebuilding it, I mean |
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| [15:26:08] | wagnerrp: | drop tables videocast/videogenre/videocountry/videometadata/videometadatacast/vidoemetadatag enre/videometadatacountry/videocategory |
| [15:26:32] | wagnerrp: | and delete the value mythvideo.DBSchemaVer from the settings table |
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| [15:26:52] | wagnerrp: | as always, backup |
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| [15:26:58] | wagnerrp: | less you mistype or a finger slips |
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| [15:28:11] | Azelphur: | indeed :) |
| [15:32:10] | ** justinh puts cityLights on his permanent ignore list ** | |
| [15:32:25] | justinh: | asking here & on the -dev list. ignorant |
| [15:33:17] | wagnerrp: | check the timestamps, he did ask 40min apart |
| [15:33:51] | wagnerrp: | of course he didnt check the wiki (or google) first, for the dozen or so scripts and programs capable of exporting mythtv recordings |
| [15:34:06] | wagnerrp: | many of which being specifically designed for transcoding to mobile devices |
| [15:34:53] | wagnerrp: | i guess he wouldnt be satisfied for anything less than exactly what hes looking for, where it automatically do so for the ten most recent recordings |
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| [15:38:54] | Azelphur: | wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/sdifKAT7 |
| [15:38:59] | Azelphur: | I'm getting this error when running mythfrontend now :( |
| [15:39:52] | wagnerrp: | must have missed a table |
| [15:40:42] | Azelphur: | http://pastebin.com/0V2k1q6f |
| [15:40:57] | Azelphur: | I don't see anything video* in there any more |
| [15:42:16] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i dont know |
| [15:42:29] | Azelphur: | :( |
| [15:42:33] | wagnerrp: | and i dont recognize that 'tc_param' field either |
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| [15:43:13] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [15:43:16] | wagnerrp: | dvdtranscode |
| [15:43:22] | Azelphur: | drop it? |
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| [15:44:02] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [15:44:08] | wagnerrp: | its part of mythvideo |
| [15:44:33] | wagnerrp: | i suppose dvdbookmark and dvdinput are as well |
| [15:44:34] | Azelphur: | error, table mythconverg.dvdtranscode does not exist |
| [15:45:02] | wagnerrp: | yes it is, its in the list you printed out |
| [15:45:52] | Azelphur: | wagnerrp: sorry, I mean when I try to run mythfrontend |
| [15:45:54] | Azelphur: | I get that error |
| [15:45:58] | Azelphur: | since, we deleted it |
| [15:46:02] | Azelphur: | it's not automagically recreating it |
| [15:46:16] | wagnerrp: | re-delete any tables mythvideo may have created |
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| [15:46:29] | wagnerrp: | along with the mythvideo.DBSchemaVer value |
| [15:46:58] | Azelphur: | there are none |
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| [15:48:26] | wagnerrp: | remove the setting 'DVDDBSchemaVer' as well |
| [15:48:51] | wagnerrp: | sphery has some link to a mailing list thread detailing how to do this |
| [15:49:05] | wagnerrp: | i really need to find that and start handing it out instead |
| [15:49:13] | wagnerrp: | my trying to fudge through this isnt working too well |
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| [15:54:59] | Azelphur: | hmm, seem to have broken the backend now :x |
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| [16:00:52] | Azelphur: | wagnerrp: http://pastebin.com/5dLrRG6X got this one now :) |
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| [16:01:23] | Azelphur: | that's when running mythfilldatabase |
| [16:01:27] | johnnyj: | hooray! – mythburn.py is actually accessing my dvd drive |
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| [16:03:40] | johnnyj: | man that sucker is loud |
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| [16:04:45] | iamlindoro: | Azelphur: Ouch-- you dropped everything that started with vdeo* instead of the list wagnerrp gave you |
| [16:04:50] | iamlindoro: | you have broken myth, congrats :) |
| [16:05:03] | justinh: | pah. paris hilton is quite loud too |
| [16:05:11] | justinh: | as er.. suckers go I mean |
| [16:05:16] | Azelphur: | iamlindoro: to the backup machine! |
| [16:05:21] | johnnyj: | 9-| |
| [16:05:54] | johnnyj: | Azelphur: to the Anger Dome! |
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| [16:07:17] | justinh: | arghhh. 2 days I've *wasted* trying to get this blimmin DVR to work & guess what... it's been rebooting cos one of the codec cards on the main board was missing a PSU inductor. GRRR |
| [16:07:43] | justinh: | not generally on my fault-finding list that... examine all boards to see if some idiot has knocked components off |
| [16:08:17] | sphery: | Azelphur: if you're the one who needed to delete your MythVideo schema: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/407793#407793 |
| [16:08:54] | Azelphur: | ty |
| [16:09:15] | sphery: | that command will work, even if you've already removed part of it |
| [16:10:33] | Azelphur: | sucess, :D |
| [16:11:04] | Azelphur: | while everyones here, is there any magical button I can press to make it grab cover art for everything? |
| [16:11:09] | Azelphur: | pressing W on each individual item is boring |
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| [16:13:19] | johnnyj: | oh look: a dvd |
| [16:15:28] | sphery: | Azelphur: if all your plugin schemas were updated, you'd have to do the same for each |
| [16:15:48] | Azelphur: | yea, it was just mythvideo that seems to be the problem |
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| [16:24:53] | wagnerrp: | Azelphur: you can run jamu |
| [16:25:05] | Azelphur: | yea, I noticed that, looks like fun |
| [16:25:20] | wagnerrp: | how many videos do you have? |
| [16:25:21] | Azelphur: | one day it'd be nice to just be able to drop videos in there and have myth do it all magically :) |
| [16:25:26] | Azelphur: | only 50 or so now. |
| [16:25:32] | wagnerrp: | better to just use w |
| [16:25:36] | Azelphur: | indeed |
| [16:25:50] | Azelphur: | is jamu going to be integrated some time? |
| [16:26:11] | wagnerrp: | more likely jamu will be superseded some time |
| [16:26:52] | Azelphur: | hehe |
| [16:27:00] | Azelphur: | that works :) |
| [16:27:29] | wagnerrp: | but thats waiting on code from one of the other developers |
| [16:27:47] | Azelphur: | is the endgame to have it all automated? |
| [16:27:48] | wagnerrp: | who themselves has a several year backlog of various features and fixes they want to put in |
| [16:27:56] | Azelphur: | haha |
| [16:28:05] | wagnerrp: | endgame is to move as much to the backend as possible |
| [16:28:29] | wagnerrp: | and remove both scanning and browse mode |
| [16:28:36] | Azelphur: | cool |
| [16:28:44] | johnnyj: | a working dvd even |
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| [16:28:47] | ** Azelphur will be waiting for that :P ** | |
| [16:30:05] | wagnerrp: | of course the real endgame would be cutting off the heads of the other HTPC/PVR projects, so we stop having to advance to be competitive |
| [16:30:15] | wagnerrp: | there can be only one |
| [16:30:27] | justinh: | there is only one open source DVR worth having |
| [16:30:28] | Azelphur: | lmao |
| [16:31:38] | justinh: | I mean – what use is a DVR you have to put all in one box – and its recording scheduler is based on timers? ;-) |
| [16:32:17] | wagnerrp: | justinh: at that point, you may as well just do it all in perl |
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| [16:32:30] | justinh: | I think they do ;) |
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| [16:32:53] | wagnerrp: | didnt that guy claim 'no complex scheduler' as a bonus feature? |
| [16:33:22] | justinh: | well yeah. being able to reschedule stuff every 50 milliseconds is fine & dandy but.... |
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| [16:48:33] | sphery: | just because it has to be quoted... http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/187428#187428 |
| [16:50:26] | wagnerrp: | justinh: this dvbradioexport/ipodexport of yours formerly in contrib |
| [16:50:45] | wagnerrp: | its actually a generic recording export, and not just for DVB radio, right? |
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| [16:53:54] | wagnerrp: | looks like sphery added that 'dvbradioexport' script name |
| [17:02:51] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i think his perl webpage is broken.... http://www.zacglen.com |
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| [17:03:02] | wagnerrp: | i get stuck on a loading screen |
| [17:05:34] | wagnerrp: | justinh: nevermind that above, sphery just put the wrong name for it above with some overzealous copy/paste |
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| [17:06:33] | johnnyj: | sphery: i used that patch to mythburn.py and it worked great – how should i note that, on the dev mailing list or in the ticket? |
| [17:07:18] | wagnerrp: | if you feel it necessary, respond to the commit email to the -dev list |
| [17:09:39] | iamlindoro: | Though generally speaking it's not necessary |
| [17:09:53] | iamlindoro: | (and sometimes irksome, depending on how people decide to word things) |
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| [17:10:41] | iamlindoro: | a lot of folks respond to the ticket (bad) with "this works for me" (unnecessary unless prompted) and "when will it be committed?" (irritating) |
| [17:10:55] | iamlindoro: | Which is not to blame you for their transgressions :) |
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| [17:14:16] | johnnyj: | i may be mistaken but I think sphery solicited feedback on that patch |
| [17:14:45] | johnnyj: | telling him in here may suffice |
| [17:15:44] | wagnerrp: | you can move recordings to a different storage group and the backend will still recognize them? |
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| [17:29:21] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: yes, you can move recordings between storage groups |
| [17:29:48] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: but you can do so without updating the database as to which storage group it is located in? |
| [17:30:01] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: correct |
| [17:30:21] | wagnerrp: | that doesnt make much sense |
| [17:30:42] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: in fact, just did it last week, when I added a new 2TB HD, moved about 500GB off my old HDs on to the new one |
| [17:30:58] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: what can I say, cpinkham is a genius :) |
| [17:31:42] | wagnerrp: | in the same storage group |
| [17:31:50] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/280574#280574 |
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| [17:32:12] | wagnerrp: | meaning you added another folder for the new drive into the same storage group, and mythbackend found it there |
| [17:33:14] | wagnerrp: | well that doesnt seem right... sounds like its doing a lot of work that doesnt need to happen |
| [17:33:19] | iamlindoro: | SGs *do* have a fallback behavior, though |
| [17:33:51] | iamlindoro: | So you can actually move things to a new SG and have it work, if its downstream in the fallback |
| [17:34:06] | wagnerrp: | right, recording groups fall back to Default, mythvideo images fall back to Video |
| [17:34:20] | wagnerrp: | but it doesnt make sense that they would drop to the fall back, and then drop to everything else |
| [17:34:36] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I added a new folder into the recordings storage group (had 2, now 3)... now I can move any recording between any of the directories (i.e. HDs) in that recording storage group |
| [17:34:41] | wagnerrp: | especially now that storage groups are beginning to be used for things other than recordings |
| [17:35:20] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I've only tried this for recordings, not sure about other types of storage groups |
| [17:36:40] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: but I'm very greatful for the feature and the simplicity to manually balance between my recording HDs (storage groups) when needed |
| [17:36:40] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [17:37:58] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: why do you think it doesn't make much sense? |
| [17:38:33] | wagnerrp: | because youre doing needless extra checks |
| [17:38:57] | skd5aner: | ... for file location rather than having it marked in the db? |
| [17:38:58] | wagnerrp: | for instance, im not going to go search for a misplaced recording in my mythvideo fanart directory |
| [17:39:13] | skd5aner: | oh, you mean across different types of storage groups? |
| [17:39:25] | skd5aner: | in otherwords, a recording that might have been moved to a fanart sg? |
| [17:39:44] | wagnerrp: | im saying theres no reason it should ever be there |
| [17:39:55] | wagnerrp: | so theres no reason for the backend to fall back and check |
| [17:41:20] | skd5aner: | are you talking at the SG level, or the DIR level? So, if I have 3 directories in a recordings storage group, each recording should be marked with an explicit directory, or each recording should be marked with an expiclity SG, (or both)? |
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| [17:42:07] | wagnerrp: | searching through all directories in a storage group is fine |
| [17:42:12] | skd5aner: | ok, gotcha |
| [17:42:24] | wagnerrp: | search through a pre-defined fallback SG is fine |
| [17:42:36] | wagnerrp: | i just dont think it should subsequently search though all other available storage groups |
| [17:43:07] | skd5aner: | yea, thanks for clarifying the scope of what you were thinking... yes, that all makes sense |
| [17:43:29] | skd5aner: | I didn't realize it took it that far |
| [17:43:38] | wagnerrp: | IMHO, that just seems like its protecting users from themselves |
| [17:43:44] | sphery: | wagnerrp: primary reason for it to fall back is so that users don't have to edit the DB when they move recordings |
| [17:43:55] | sphery: | only fall back that won't occur is across hosts |
| [17:43:58] | wagnerrp: | sphery: but thats my point, why not? |
| [17:44:09] | skd5aner: | well, what is the purpose of specific types of storage groups if they all are fallbacks for any kind of content? |
| [17:44:12] | sphery: | because we have no way for them to update the DB |
| [17:44:28] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: Because a) you can force it not to fall back, and b) force the first checked group |
| [17:44:39] | sphery: | besides, users move things outside of MythTV, anyway |
| [17:45:04] | iamlindoro: | When you create a remotefile, you can switch off fallback, and you can put the group name in the address to say where something *should* be and prevent grabbing a wrong file of an identical name |
| [17:45:11] | sphery: | and it's not really important since the future recordedfile changes from CM will also record a "last found" directory so that it won't have to check all over the place each time |
| [17:45:18] | iamlindoro: | which was the case in the first implementation of MythVideo images via SG |
| [17:45:24] | sphery: | but the checks aren't very time consuming, anyway |
| [17:46:16] | sphery: | wagnerrp: also, what did I do wrong with dvbradioexport? |
| [17:46:45] | wagnerrp: | nothing, you just named ipodexport.pl the same thing |
| [17:46:54] | sphery: | ohhh... sorry |
| [17:47:19] | sphery: | yeah, I tend to miss things to change... wiki doesn't highlight all the things I have to modify for each page :) |
| [17:47:40] | wagnerrp: | im just saying i dont think the users should be moving files around on their own like that |
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| [17:48:02] | sphery: | well, we'll never change our users, so... |
| [17:48:20] | sphery: | the fallback is good, though, because most people don't set up their SG's properly, anyway, and this keeps things working |
| [17:48:21] | wagnerrp: | ideally that myth_archive_job would access the database and update the storage group, and they would just use that |
| [17:49:07] | sphery: | wagnerrp: exactly... it's been bitrotting in contrib for many years--ever since SG's were added (since it became mostly useless) |
| [17:49:52] | sphery: | ideally we'll have the "Move recordings from SG dir to SG dir or from SG to SG or from host to host" functionality in the frontend/backend soon |
| [17:50:00] | sphery: | then we won't need any external scripts like that |
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| [17:50:22] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [17:51:49] | ** sphery wants regex support in his Firefox find-in-page ** | |
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| [17:56:52] | AndyCap: | sphery: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/99836 not sure if that extension is a good idea though |
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| [17:59:01] | sphery: | AndyCap: heh, cool--but yeah, experimental is scary for inside my browser |
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| [18:03:11] | AndyCap: | sphery: I read "native code" and "no source available" as trouble. :P |
| [18:03:33] | sphery: | yeah |
| [18:03:39] | sphery: | that's also scary |
| [18:03:45] | sphery: | I didn't notice that part |
| [18:04:22] | wagnerrp: | you can write compiled firefox plugins? i thought they were all some scripting language |
| [18:04:46] | sphery: | wagnerrp: you feel like testing the libmythhdhomerun.patch on http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8387 |
| [18:05:19] | wagnerrp: | will do |
| [18:05:40] | sphery: | since you know exactly how to reproduce the 2-recordings bug we had before, figured you would be ideal for verifying it doesn't do the same thing |
| [18:05:49] | sphery: | and, thanks. |
| [18:06:09] | wagnerrp: | sphery: i didnt say i knew how to reproduce them |
| [18:06:10] | flohack: | Hi! I'm getting "LIRC, Error: Failed to parse IP address ''" with mythtv 0.23+fixed from ubuntu lucid. My lircd is up and "irw" shows the correct events from lirc. I'm using my .lirc/mythtv file from a working 0.21+fixes installation. |
| [18:06:14] | wagnerrp: | i just said ive had them happen to me |
| [18:06:14] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: nah. perspectives for instance is compiled. |
| [18:06:38] | wagnerrp: | ive tried and failed to force them to occur |
| [18:07:17] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, well, that's more than I can say :) |
| [18:07:57] | sphery: | flohack: sounds like a misconfiguration of network LIRC (not MythTV stuff) |
| [18:08:49] | flohack: | sphery: I thought lircd works with a unix domain socket /var/run/lirc/lircd |
| [18:09:02] | flohack: | sphery: BTW: thanks for helping me again :-) |
| [18:09:04] | sphery: | there's also TCP support in it--which you seem to have configured |
| [18:09:13] | sphery: | er, partially configured, that is :) |
| [18:09:19] | sphery: | (since you're missing the IP address) |
| [18:09:38] | flohack: | sphery: I'll RTF lirc manual |
| [18:09:50] | sphery: | looks like TCP port 8765 |
| [18:10:49] | flohack: | sphery: the question is, where the heck do you enable that...should be the per-user or global lircrc, but it does not contain anything related to ip |
| [18:11:43] | sphery: | flohack: could be the in-mythtv config for the lirc device... you're failing the check: if (lircdDevice.startsWith('/')) |
| [18:11:54] | sphery: | which is why it thinks it's supposed to use network |
| [18:11:58] | wagnerrp: | well thats odd |
| [18:12:17] | flohack: | Ok, I'll have a look at the database |
| [18:12:29] | wagnerrp: | the hdhomerun_config scanner just picked up one of my local broadcast channels as 'encrypted' |
| [18:12:36] | sphery: | flohack: better, have a look at settings |
| [18:12:53] | wagnerrp: | but it seems to play fine otherwise |
| [18:13:14] | sphery: | flohack: LIRC Daemon Socket on Utilities/Setup|Setup|General Settings in mythfrontend |
| [18:13:37] | sphery: | wagnerrp: maybe it's steganography? |
| [18:15:04] | flohack: | sphery: ouch...I think I'm connecting to the wrong DB... |
| [18:15:19] | sphery: | wrong db would do bad things |
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| [18:24:07] | skd5aner: | iamlindoro, sphery: #8190, I see you got a BT from someone and added it to the ticket, is there any other info you guys need? This was a spin-off from #6472, where I mentioned exhibiting the problem |
| [18:24:21] | skd5aner: | just wanted to see if there's anything I can provide to help with that ticket |
| [18:24:25] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: We shouldn't need anything more, the BT gave what was needed |
| [18:24:37] | skd5aner: | great! :) |
| [18:24:57] | sphery: | now we just need to find out how to prevent the player from holding the lock we need to do a SwitchSource() |
| [18:25:02] | iamlindoro: | Unless you want to write a patch to fix the deadlock |
| [18:25:07] | iamlindoro: | that would help :) |
| [18:25:12] | sphery: | yeah, that would be nice |
| [18:25:41] | skd5aner: | lol – of course, let me get right on that ;) |
| [18:25:54] | sphery: | btw, it has nothing to do with my patch that fixed NEXTSOURCE--it was a pre-existing bug that was only made visible since NEXTSOURCE now actually works |
| [18:26:12] | skd5aner: | I can exhibit the problem, but luckily never have to hit that button, so it really never impacts me unless I explicitly want to trigger ti |
| [18:26:15] | dustybin: | does dagmar still post in this channel? i need to speak to him about slackware + mythtv |
| [18:26:16] | iamlindoro: | Whatever sphery, totally your fault |
| [18:26:24] | skd5aner: | sphery: right... |
| [18:26:26] | iamlindoro: | no, dagmar is no longer welcome in this channel |
| [18:26:34] | dustybin: | why? serious? |
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| [18:27:03] | iamlindoro: | Yes, I'm serious |
| [18:27:09] | flohack: | sphery: Ok, right database and "update settings set data = '/var/run/lirc/lircd' where value='LircSocket';" I get: "LIRC: Successfully initialized '/var/run/lirc/lircd' using '/home/fhackenberger/.mythtv/lircrc' config" but my remote still does not work |
| [18:27:09] | iamlindoro: | don't worry about why |
| [18:27:13] | flohack: | :-( |
| [18:27:13] | skd5aner: | dustybin: I think he was the first casuality of the new curtosy rules |
| [18:27:19] | iamlindoro: | If people can't behave, they don't get to hang out here |
| [18:27:37] | skd5aner: | flagrant disregard for others |
| [18:27:39] | dustybin: | eeeek :-S i thought dagmar was a old regular |
| [18:27:57] | iamlindoro: | He was a regular, but that doesn't mean his behavior was acceptable |
| [18:28:11] | iamlindoro: | Being here a long time doesn't give you the right to be an idiot |
| [18:28:52] | dustybin: | GreyFoxx is the only other slackware user here i think |
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| [18:29:38] | sphery: | flohack: look at all the other settings in the GUI (since we don't edit them directly because we have no idea what values are legal, but the code does) |
| [18:31:33] | wagnerrp: | seems i am still using the old (new) hdhr libraries |
| [18:31:46] | wagnerrp: | im on 24014 and the revert was 24024 |
| [18:32:23] | flohack: | sphery: do I need the lirc keypress app set to anything? |
| [18:32:56] | sphery: | skd5aner: on #8190, when you hit NEXTSOURCE , what happens? Does it actually switch source? Does it stay on the current suorce? Does it keep playing the video or just stop? |
| [18:33:00] | sphery: | flohack: no |
| [18:33:36] | flohack: | sphery: hmm...I even enabled full debug logging, but mythtv does not show any lirc related messages at all (apart from the one I sent) |
| [18:33:45] | sphery: | flohack: thus the help text in the GUI: LIRC Keypress Application: External application or script to run when a keypress is received by LIRC. |
| [18:33:49] | sphery: | see, the GUI is useful |
| [18:34:17] | sphery: | then I'd say LIRC isn't properly configured |
| [18:34:26] | sphery: | lircrc or lircd.conf problems, likely |
| [18:34:59] | flohack: | lircd.conf is definitely fine, irw would not work otherwise. has anything changed in the lircrc (mythtv bindings?)? |
| [18:35:31] | sphery: | nope |
| [18:35:40] | sphery: | likely something on your system changed |
| [18:36:51] | flohack: | I think the remote name changed... |
| [18:43:22] | skd5aner: | sphery: haven't tested in a few months, but I'm 98% sure that when I hit NEXTSOURCE, nothing happens (no response), video continues to play on current source, and I lose the ability to control the frontend via keyboard |
| [18:44:21] | flohack: | sphery: Ok, it was the remote (wrong name in /etc/lirc/lircd.conf). Now it does 'something', need to figure out why the myth does not react properly. |
| [18:44:35] | sphery: | skd5aner: cool... that's what I expected from the source |
| [18:45:18] | skd5aner: | sphery: yup, it's as if NEXTSOURCE should be renamed to KILLALLINPUTDEV |
| [18:45:58] | sphery: | yeah, it's just a deadlock... I'm not sure who's holding the lock and why it's not being released in that circumstance, but at least I have some idea of what's happening |
| [18:46:11] | skd5aner: | thanks for looking at it |
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| [18:48:51] | dustybin: | the final words of dagmar: http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1/2010-01-26 |
| [18:49:43] | iamlindoro: | dustybin: Use your brain, please |
| [18:49:50] | dustybin: | seems a shame really, everybody can get hot headed at times :( |
| [18:50:11] | iamlindoro: | it's not relevant, unless you're trying to speak your own final words in here |
| [18:50:18] | dustybin: | ok :-S |
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| [19:02:40] | j-rod: | hahahahahaha |
| [19:02:41] | j-rod: | http://consumerist.com/2010/04/congratulation . . . america.html |
| [19:03:01] | wagnerrp: | the golden poo |
| [19:03:04] | wagnerrp: | thats awesome |
| [19:03:35] | j-rod: | beating out ticket master |
| [19:04:08] | wagnerrp: | ticketmaster still exists? |
| [19:04:24] | j-rod: | unfortunately |
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| [19:08:05] | flohack: | sphery: Just wanted to say thank you! I've got it all set up now! |
| [19:08:08] | tzanger: | that's awesome |
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| [19:08:17] | tzanger: | "I think BOA was robbed. Which is ironic." |
| [19:08:40] | wagnerrp: | seems boa? |
| [19:08:48] | wagnerrp: | s/seems// |
| [19:09:08] | johnnyj: | bank of amer – and I agree |
| [19:09:27] | wagnerrp: | oh, them... apparently i have an account there |
| [19:09:43] | wagnerrp: | for the life of me, i cant recall actually opening it |
| [19:09:57] | wagnerrp: | but i must have one, because they keep sending me emails asking for my number and password |
| [19:09:59] | johnnyj: | is there $$ in it? |
| [19:10:12] | sphery: | flohack: cool... enjoy |
| [19:10:19] | johnnyj: | oh – ha – phishing emails? |
| [19:10:32] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [19:11:35] | johnnyj: | boa delayed processing my direct deposit once and then after 5 days gave me twice the amount I should have had and closed the account (w/o my permission) and cashed it out to me |
| [19:12:04] | wagnerrp: | whoops, seems i missed a couple of new files in that HDHR patch |
| [19:13:03] | wagnerrp: | i patched them in, and then ran 'svn diff' from root to get a combined patch i could apply to my ebuild |
| [19:13:10] | wagnerrp: | but svn didnt pick up the new files |
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| [19:14:08] | sphery: | wagnerrp: you'd have to do an svn add |
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| [19:14:14] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [19:14:21] | wagnerrp: | although now im getting some other error... |
| [19:19:58] | wagnerrp: | no, still missing files |
| [19:20:06] | wagnerrp: | third time is the charm? |
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| [19:27:35] | sphery: | skd5aner: Bored? Wanna try a patch for #8190? |
| [19:30:39] | sphery: | skd5aner: http://misc.thirdcontact.com/MythTV/mythtv-81 . . . adlock.patch . It's untested (since I don't have multiple sources and my dev box Live TV isn't even working), but if it works, I can get it in. |
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| [19:52:44] | skd5aner: | sphery: hmmmm, just recompiled yesterday... I'll see if I have some time in the next day or so to test |
| [19:52:52] | sphery: | skd5aner: thx |
| [19:53:11] | skd5aner: | also, on another note, is there a way within mIRC to notify you if someone types your name? |
| [19:53:27] | iamlindoro: | If you're using ccache, it should only take you a few minutes :) |
| [19:53:30] | sphery: | don't know mirc |
| [19:53:31] | iamlindoro: | c'monnnnnnn |
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| [19:53:58] | skd5aner: | peer pressure for patch testing, geeze |
| [19:53:59] | sphery: | even without ccache shouldn't take long--if you still have the working copy in which you built the current one |
| [19:54:00] | skd5aner: | ;) |
| [19:54:12] | iamlindoro: | Hey, you said you wanted to help |
| [19:54:23] | sphery: | ccache would be very necessary if you're starting from a clean working copy, though |
| [19:54:34] | iamlindoro: | First they complain when patches sit for years, then they complain when you write patches and ask them to test ;) |
| [19:54:37] | sphery: | necessary for the "only take you a few minutes" |
| [19:55:14] | skd5aner: | I'll try to get to it in a little while, work is pulling me a few directions right now |
| [19:55:49] | sphery: | iamlindoro: and especially when it only took me 2hr 20min from the time when someone finally posted the bt I asked for 4 months ago |
| [19:56:26] | sphery: | 2hr 20min to write a patch after getting the bt, that is |
| [19:57:09] | skd5aner: | sphery: sorry, like the other guy – I had no clue (until you helped with me that bt last week) how to capture a bt for a hung process, just a segfault/crash |
| [19:58:18] | skd5aner: | but, speedy work there Mr. Spher |
| [19:58:19] | skd5aner: | y |
| [19:58:43] | sphery: | skd5aner: yeah, wasn't trying to point fingers at you, specifically--there were a lot of people complaining but not getting backtraces |
| [19:59:25] | sphery: | fortunately someone else complained about the problem in dev and iamlindoro pointed him to the ticket and got him to do a backtrace for us |
| [19:59:36] | ** iamlindoro loves closing tickets ** | |
| [19:59:49] | sphery: | me too |
| [19:59:53] | dewman: | speaking of multiple sources.....If the frequency column under dtv_multiplex does not show duplicate frequency's does that mean that simultaneous recordings on that same multiplex can not occur? |
| [19:59:59] | mag0o: | skd5aner: http://www.scriptaholics.com/node/73 |
| [20:00:01] | skd5aner: | sphery: no worries, I know. Truth be told, once you fixed the other issue on the original ticket, I never had to use the NEXTSOURCE binding, so raising the issue was more of a courtesy of "oh, btw I stumbled on this nasty bug" but it doesn't impact me :) |
| [20:00:30] | sphery: | skd5aner: yeah, that's right... you only noticed it when doing a full test for that other patch of mine |
| [20:00:42] | sphery: | so I definitely can't complain about you not helping |
| [20:00:47] | iamlindoro: | I can! |
| [20:00:48] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [20:00:54] | sphery: | otherwise, the other ticket would still be open :) |
| [20:01:11] | skd5aner: | mag0o: thanks! :) |
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| [20:02:25] | iamlindoro: | This BDMV stuff is going to be nice and polished once I get it in |
| [20:02:26] | iamlindoro: | mmmmm |
| [20:03:12] | decke: | wagnerrp: http://home.bluelife.at/images/mythtv-0.23-DVB-1.jpg |
| [20:03:21] | sphery: | decke: I think dtv_multiple only contains info about the muxes... You'd have to look at channels to see which are sharing a mux |
| [20:03:29] | sphery: | dtv_multiplex, even |
| [20:04:06] | decke: | sphery: you probably meant someone else |
| [20:04:46] | sphery: | decke: sorry... your snuck in a comment right as I was hitting dewman and my "last spoke" picked you up instead of dewman |
| [20:04:56] | sphery: | decke: ^^^ see above about dtv_multiplex |
| [20:04:59] | sphery: | errr! |
| [20:05:02] | dewman: | lol |
| [20:05:08] | dewman: | all good. |
| [20:05:10] | sphery: | dewman: ^^^ see above about dtv_multiplex... but you've noticed |
| [20:07:26] | Wicked: | new theme? |
| [20:07:34] | johnnyj: | yay my segfault is happenning !! |
| [20:07:43] | iamlindoro: | Wicked: That's Terra |
| [20:08:02] | Wicked: | hmm. why the rename to Childish? |
| [20:08:27] | wagnerrp: | what got renamed to childish? |
| [20:08:33] | iamlindoro: | Wicked: Assumed you were talking abotu the screenshot |
| [20:08:37] | Wicked: | myththemes/Childish/ |
| [20:08:38] | Wicked: | oh |
| [20:08:41] | Wicked: | my bad. |
| [20:08:47] | wagnerrp: | it got added, nothing was renamed |
| [20:08:48] | Wicked: | in svn 0.23-fixes |
| [20:08:48] | iamlindoro: | you can't just turn up with "new theme?" and expect anyone to have any idea what you're talking about |
| [20:09:05] | Wicked: | yea. i should have elaborated :) |
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| [20:09:23] | decke: | wagnerrp: seen the screenshot and what this means |
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| [20:09:51] | Wicked: | hmm. nothing on the wiki about this theme |
| [20:09:53] | iamlindoro: | So yes, Childish is the winner of the theming competition |
| [20:09:57] | iamlindoro: | www.mythtv.org |
| [20:10:00] | Wicked: | oh hot damn. |
| [20:10:03] | iamlindoro: | and the users list |
| [20:10:04] | Wicked: | good stuff |
| [20:10:16] | wagnerrp: | decke: you mean the taskbar at the bottom? |
| [20:10:22] | iamlindoro: | all complaints to mag0o |
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| [20:10:38] | iamlindoro: | he hasn't felt the wrath of retarded users yet, time to get the feet wet |
| [20:10:53] | wagnerrp: | decke: that is a compiz issue |
| [20:11:11] | Wicked: | sweet. cant wait to try these new themes |
| [20:12:13] | johnnyj: | for creating backtrace when built fro source, do I need to do "Using core files" option on the wiki page? |
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| [20:13:31] | iamlindoro: | johnnyj: If you built from source, just the steps from the manual are best |
| [20:13:39] | iamlindoro: | since core file backtraces are a huge PITA to read |
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| [20:13:52] | johnnyj: | ..steps from the manual? |
| [20:13:54] | iamlindoro: | The only thing worse than a core file is a mythbuntu backtrace |
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| [20:14:10] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-22.html#ss22.2 |
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| [20:15:09] | wagnerrp: | aww.... |
| [20:15:13] | decke: | wagnerrp: no i meant ... this is mythtv 0.23 running with an V4L device on FreeBSD |
| [20:15:20] | wagnerrp: | sphery: ya broke gentoo |
| [20:15:38] | wagnerrp: | apparently the stock ebuild is set up to compile and install the firewire channel changers |
| [20:15:57] | wagnerrp: | ah, i see |
| [20:16:03] | wagnerrp: | just showing off then... :P |
| [20:16:04] | decke: | actually with an DVB-S2 USB device |
| [20:16:22] | decke: | so this is brand new news :o) |
| [20:16:48] | johnnyj: | and i start it with gdb and there's no segfault |
| [20:17:49] | decke: | so mythtv is usefull on FreeBSD again – i can watch live tv with it and there are good chances that all USB devices are supported |
| [20:18:03] | wagnerrp: | all? |
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| [20:18:26] | decke: | all that are supported on linux |
| [20:18:31] | Wicked: | i never had luck getting my pvr-150 to work under fbsd |
| [20:18:55] | decke: | thanks to the work of hans petter selasky – he has written video4bsd – an userland v4l implementation |
| [20:19:10] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [20:19:28] | decke: | that takes the original v4l driver from the v4l repository and compiles and runs it in userland on FreeBSD |
| [20:19:35] | decke: | and as you see – it works very fine |
| [20:19:47] | decke: | was originally inteded for webcams |
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| [20:19:54] | decke: | but works for DVB devices too |
| [20:20:16] | decke: | and already supports a lot of usb devices |
| [20:20:20] | wagnerrp: | i suppose it doesnt get the hardware access to work with PCI(e) tuners? |
| [20:20:34] | decke: | no PCI is a different beast as i was told |
| [20:20:54] | decke: | but it works for all USB devices |
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| [20:21:44] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh. Guess it will have to change |
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| [20:22:08] | decke: | from the mythtv side it was an easy task – nothing special needed; just a few minor compile fixes in the v4l codepaths that were never compiled on BSD before |
| [20:22:11] | johnnyj: | iamlindoro: if my segfault usually happens when i try to start playback of a recording – will gdb cause it to instead hang the 'please wait' – allowing me to type quit in the gdb prompt? |
| [20:22:56] | iamlindoro: | johnnyj: if you see a huge spew in the gdb output, then that was the segfault happening and the spew is the backtrace |
| [20:23:06] | johnnyj: | this appears to be what is happenning – but no segfault is getting registered in dmesg |
| [20:23:06] | iamlindoro: | and yes, it will "hold" the FE screen until you tell it to quit |
| [20:23:18] | iamlindoro: | Don't worrk about dmesg |
| [20:23:18] | sphery: | johnnyj: on that mytharchive patch, feedback here is fine... was thinking that if you felt like speeding up the process, though, you could fix the patch to work on systems with or without tcrequant/whatever-replaces-it |
| [20:23:20] | iamlindoro: | er worry |
| [20:23:58] | iamlindoro: | johnnyj: It should be fairly obvious if it segfaulted from the GDB output |
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| [20:26:16] | johnnyj: | yep – i wasn't reading that output – I was looking in myth.log – which I see now is just an arg passed to the debugged program |
| [20:26:57] | johnnyj: | so yeah – i've got the bactrace |
| [20:27:05] | iamlindoro: | If you followed the manual, you will have a file in your working directory called gdb.txt that should also have the BT |
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| [20:28:36] | johnnyj: | yep – i didnt clear that one though – it's got a couple runs in it |
| [20:28:47] | johnnyj: | at least 1 of which didn't fault |
| [20:29:03] | wagnerrp: | my phone just rebooted |
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| [20:34:30] | johnnyj: | my message to mythtv-dev awaits moderator approval |
| [20:34:38] | sphery: | you have to be subscribed |
| [20:34:48] | sphery: | you'll never get moderator approval--no one reviews those |
| [20:34:55] | sphery: | as it's 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% spam |
| [20:35:06] | johnnyj: | i'm on that list |
| [20:35:16] | sphery: | did you use the right e-mail in the From? |
| [20:35:26] | johnnyj: | ive only got the 1 in my gmail |
| [20:35:27] | sphery: | or maybe it's a size limit? |
| [20:35:30] | johnnyj: | yep |
| [20:35:32] | sphery: | hmmm |
| [20:35:33] | johnnyj: | size limit |
| [20:35:33] | sphery: | weird |
| [20:35:37] | wagnerrp: | did someone change the frequency tables, such that 'cable' is now only the low frequencies? |
| [20:35:37] | sphery: | oh |
| [20:35:37] | johnnyj: | you want a pastebin? |
| [20:35:47] | sphery: | yeah, probably want to gzip the large attachment |
| [20:35:50] | wagnerrp: | i dont recall seeing any commits to that effect |
| [20:35:58] | wagnerrp: | and i cant find anything about it on trac |
| [20:36:06] | sphery: | wagnerrp: shouldn't be the case |
| [20:37:29] | wagnerrp: | yeah, only lets me scan between 2 and 83 |
| [20:37:40] | wagnerrp: | while Cable High does 78–159 |
| [20:37:44] | johnnyj: | off it went – with the gzipped version |
| [20:40:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: you've let it scan all the way? |
| [20:40:41] | sphery: | you did a Full scan? |
| [20:40:46] | wagnerrp: | havent started yet |
| [20:41:08] | sphery: | I think cable with a full scan will get all of it--regardless of what the UI may say |
| [20:41:16] | wagnerrp: | when i got to select the scanning range, the default is 2-<nothing> |
| [20:41:20] | sphery: | (but I haven't verified with source or testing, yet) |
| [20:41:23] | wagnerrp: | saying there are 166 channels there |
| [20:41:44] | wagnerrp: | if i go to change that, i bounce between 2 and 83 when going over the limit |
| [20:42:05] | iamlindoro: | johnnyj: You have leftover trash |
| [20:42:17] | iamlindoro: | sphery: Give him your "let's see all the libs" ls |
| [20:42:20] | dustybin: | my lord, mythtv competition, 4:3 theme :D |
| [20:42:36] | dustybin: | im one of the rare few what use 4:3 |
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| [20:43:00] | sphery: | skd5aner: I think you're off the hook... jafa tested the patch |
| [20:43:17] | sphery: | ls -l /usr/{,local/}lib/{mythtv,libmyth*} /usr/{,local/}include/mythtv |
| [20:43:22] | iamlindoro: | johnnyj: ^^ |
| [20:43:30] | iamlindoro: | You have leftover libs and you compiled against them |
| [20:43:35] | iamlindoro: | bad user. BAD USER. |
| [20:43:51] | johnnyj: | i ran those commands – i must have fat fingered one |
| [20:44:22] | wagnerrp: | yeah, bad user |
| [20:44:25] | johnnyj: | not those commands – the rm's that would go with them |
| [20:44:26] | ** wagnerrp pokes iamlindoro ** | |
| [20:44:57] | dustybin: | hmmm its a bit hard on the eyes |
| [20:44:58] | ** iamlindoro does his part, so everyone can SUCK IT ** | |
| [20:45:04] | wagnerrp: | :P |
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| [20:53:26] | johnnyj: | wow "make -j 3" is significantly faster on my system |
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| [20:54:03] | wagnerrp: | how many cores? |
| [20:54:31] | johnnyj: | 3 |
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| [20:54:44] | sphery: | with 3, you can use make -j 6 |
| [20:54:51] | wagnerrp: | then you probably want to do -j4–6 |
| [20:54:53] | johnnyj: | i'll try that next time |
| [20:54:58] | sphery: | usually -j <cores/procs>*2 |
| [20:55:22] | wagnerrp: | the actual compile is the only thing that is really processor intensive |
| [20:55:31] | wagnerrp: | theres a lot of extra stuff going on that is disk intensive |
| [20:56:10] | wagnerrp: | so if you can have something compiling while another thread is doing file prep, you will continue to get speedup even past the number of cores you have |
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| [20:57:51] | johnnyj: | yep – everything seems fine now |
| [20:58:45] | johnnyj: | little laggy on my 1080i stuff but I haven't fiddled with my playback filters on this machine |
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| [21:12:05] | feitingen: | hi, i am having some basic troubles unsing mplayer with mythtv.. mplayer says "No stream found to handle url myth://"..... |
| [21:12:30] | wagnerrp: | yes... http://mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo |
| [21:13:55] | feitingen: | "external video players will not work with videos hosted on an sg"? |
| [21:14:01] | iamlindoro: | that's the one |
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| [21:14:54] | feitingen: | since everything is on one machine in my setup, how can i remove this sg? |
| [21:16:07] | wagnerrp: | since external player support is slated for removal, the preferred solution is you stop using mplayer |
| [21:17:08] | ** iamlindoro is writing a very fancy new feature right now that won't support external players at all :) ** | |
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| [21:18:19] | feitingen: | the only reason i am using mplayer is so i get subtitles with all my matroska encoded files (hundreds), are support for this planned? ( i may be using an old version, sorry) |
| [21:18:41] | wagnerrp: | bitmapped subtitles work just fine, and are considerably less work to create |
| [21:18:43] | Wicked: | when installing a theme...should it be put on the backend...and the backend serves it to the frontend? or does the theme need to go on the frontend |
| [21:18:45] | sphery: | we support bitmapped sub... |
| [21:18:49] | sphery: | wagnerrp is /fast/! |
| [21:19:01] | Wicked: | feitingen, i had the same issue yesterday |
| [21:19:08] | Wicked: | feitingen, sec... |
| [21:19:13] | wagnerrp: | you can always just re-rip those dvds and keep the bitmapped subs |
| [21:19:26] | sphery: | <+wagnerrp> /nick The_Flash |
| [21:19:33] | Wicked: | feitingen, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/322456 |
| [21:19:36] | wagnerrp: | rather than spending the 15–20 minutes per movie needed to train the OCR software |
| [21:19:48] | Wicked: | feitingen, more specific http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/322781#322781 |
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| [21:20:25] | wagnerrp: | sphery: that was even having to alt-tab out of a game to type that |
| [21:20:33] | sphery: | wow |
| [21:21:02] | feitingen: | wagnerrp: or write a wrapper script to handle your weird url.. after adding all my media to the database i would really not spend additional days to get subtitles.... :( |
| [21:21:28] | iamlindoro: | heh, weird URL |
| [21:21:36] | sphery: | heh, spend additional days |
| [21:21:52] | iamlindoro: | Hey, his time is valuable, he already spent so much stealing all these files |
| [21:22:03] | iamlindoro: | He's not made of money you know, that's why he didn't spend any |
| [21:22:49] | feitingen: | iamlindoro: i bought most of this on dvd, and stashed it somewhere, and my time is much more valuabel for me than for you |
| [21:23:26] | wagnerrp: | if your time was that valuable, you would have just copied the bitmapped subs, rather than spending the time to OCR all of them |
| [21:23:28] | iamlindoro: | Maybe I'll just disable external players and force the issue |
| [21:23:40] | sphery: | feitingen: what he's saying is that it's impossible for you to get text-based subtitles from a DVD rip without doing OCR of the images in the original DVD |
| [21:24:14] | sphery: | since that's a long, slow, and inaccurate process, he's telling you to stop doing OCR when you rip your DVD's |
| [21:24:27] | sphery: | +1 on disabling external players |
| [21:24:49] | johnnyj: | subtitles are so popular lately |
| [21:25:15] | feitingen: | sphery: i know, and i already did the slow and painful process and manually corrected them so i can use my beautiful fonts.. |
| [21:25:47] | sphery: | yes, and people are going to tons of trouble to do the OCR'ing |
| [21:25:48] | highzeth: | What? Good Times Roman? |
| [21:25:56] | sphery: | quite amazing how many motivated users there are |
| [21:26:39] | iamlindoro: | Not motivated enough to add support for muxed-in text subtitles, or ISO across SG |
| [21:26:51] | iamlindoro: | It must not matter too much :) |
| [21:27:14] | sphery: | why improve MythTV when you can totally bypass it with an external player |
| [21:27:21] | sphery: | and use something as horrid as MPlayer, instead |
| [21:27:28] | feitingen: | iamlindoro: i just started using mythtv, i don't know the code yet |
| [21:27:52] | sphery: | johnnyj: so you got your segfault issue fixed? |
| [21:27:56] | feitingen: | sphery: and why is mplayer horrid? |
| [21:28:02] | sphery: | i.e. I should ignore that message |
| [21:28:14] | highzeth: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-WU0pV2AXE (for the Good Times Roman ref) Arj Barker standup |
| [21:28:43] | sphery: | feitingen: uses different keys from MythTV (so not consistent), no MythTV OSD with MythTV metadata, no MythTV features like timestretch (at least, I'm pretty sure it has no equivalent) and others |
| [21:28:51] | feitingen: | also, dejavu sans is my current favorite font. |
| [21:29:00] | ** iamlindoro throws up a little in his mouth ** | |
| [21:29:08] | highzeth: | Not Chill Sans? |
| [21:29:26] | highzeth: | My fav is by far Sarcastica |
| [21:29:55] | sphery: | highzeth: MS Comic Sans! |
| [21:30:01] | sphery: | everyone knows that's the best |
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| [21:30:07] | highzeth: | ;) |
| [21:30:07] | johnnyj: | sphery: yes my segfaults are no longer |
| [21:30:17] | johnnyj: | thanks guys |
| [21:30:31] | feitingen: | i like dejavu mostly because it does not burn my eyes in neither cyrillic, chinese or latin |
| [21:30:56] | iamlindoro: | johnnyj: For extra laughs, don't follow up on the dev list and see the insane stuff that gets suggested |
| [21:31:01] | sphery: | highzeth: http://www.reallifecomics.com/comics/2009/20091011_2318.png |
| [21:31:15] | sphery: | may not be sfw |
| [21:31:21] | sphery: | (some language) |
| [21:31:52] | highzeth: | hehehe, nice one |
| [21:32:04] | feitingen: | lol |
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| [21:32:29] | highzeth: | any lingo is sfw, there I said it |
| [21:34:19] | Wicked: | where an when was voting done on the new themes? |
| [21:34:27] | Wicked: | *and |
| [21:34:54] | iamlindoro: | Was done at mythtv.org, for months |
| [21:34:58] | johnnyj: | iamlindoro: i got totally overwhelmed in sitting down to make a theme |
| [21:35:06] | iamlindoro: | and was announced on all the lists, and on the page |
| [21:35:08] | Wicked: | i dont see anything in the new archive for voting |
| [21:35:14] | Wicked: | *news |
| [21:35:24] | iamlindoro: | It was on the theming competition page |
| [21:35:30] | iamlindoro: | the vote portion has since been removed |
| [21:35:32] | Wicked: | # 2009-11–07: MythTV Theming Competition (announcement) |
| [21:35:35] | Wicked: | then jus the results |
| [21:35:42] | feitingen: | i'm still new, so this may be a very stupid question: i can still download themes which were not voted for? |
| [21:35:43] | iamlindoro: | Yes, the former is where the voting happened |
| [21:35:52] | iamlindoro: | yes, they're all linked on www.mythtv.org |
| [21:35:58] | johnnyj: | i'm checking if my other half will assist in design if I can do the coding |
| [21:35:59] | sphery: | what? web sites change? ;) |
| [21:36:11] | Wicked: | wish it was better advertised...i didnt see it anywhere |
| [21:36:18] | Wicked: | would have liked to vote |
| [21:36:47] | iamlindoro: | Wicked: Aside from on literally every single one of our lists, and on the main page, and in here and our other channels, and on phoronix, and slashdot, where would you have liked it to be advertised? |
| [21:37:20] | ** sphery begins the long wait after closing a Firefox window with several long Trac changeset pages in it ** | |
| [21:37:24] | Wicked: | i never saw anything on the front page of mythtv.org about voting |
| [21:37:32] | sphery: | JavaScript DoS |
| [21:37:43] | iamlindoro: | Wicked: That is not our deficiency :) |
| [21:37:50] | iamlindoro: | You missing it is not our mistake |
| [21:38:05] | sphery: | Wicked: it was there--as was the announcement of the voting on mythtv-dev, mythtv-theming, and mythtv-users lists :) |
| [21:38:16] | Wicked: | yea. i dont use the lists |
| [21:38:18] | sphery: | I'd give you links to all three messages, but my Firefox is being DoS'ed |
| [21:38:21] | iamlindoro: | And mucho discussion in all the IRC channels |
| [21:38:35] | iamlindoro: | and numerous news sites |
| [21:38:51] | iamlindoro: | so yeah, I'm pretty sure the problem here isn't that we failed to advertise it |
| [21:38:58] | iamlindoro: | personal responsibility fail |
| [21:39:44] | johnnyj: | yikes – no lists? I'm addicted at this point |
| [21:39:47] | Wicked: | im just saying making it more prevalent on the frontpage of the website would have helped |
| [21:39:52] | Wicked: | so it jumped out at users |
| [21:40:16] | highzeth: | oh, a pop-up? I see |
| [21:40:27] | sphery: | on a 3D monitor, too!\ |
| [21:40:29] | feitingen: | Wicked: why? when you are at the site you can download any theme you want anyways, right? |
| [21:40:52] | johnnyj: | mythtv.org is pretty static – who |
| [21:41:11] | johnnyj: | ^^ += 's visiting it that often? |
| [21:41:29] | Wicked: | feitingen, im talking about they should have made it more prevalent on the frontpage. so when you went there right away you would see there was voting going on. |
| [21:41:37] | johnnyj: | how about a voiceover? |
| [21:41:43] | iamlindoro: | Enough |
| [21:42:01] | iamlindoro: | thanks for the Monday morning quarterbacking, it's worth exactly squat |
| [21:42:02] | Wicked: | so you dont have troll some archaic mailing list to vote |
| [21:42:35] | iamlindoro: | If you're not engaged enough to be part of the MANY corners of our community in which we advertised it, we don't care if you missed your chance to vote |
| [21:42:59] | Wicked: | thats the attitude! |
| [21:43:00] | iamlindoro: | and walking in after the voting was open for literally months and saying without ever having seen it that it wasn't eye catching enough is worthless |
| [21:43:28] | iamlindoro: | yup, that's my attitude. While it doesn't necessarily reflect the attitudes of the project as a whole, I'm a myth dev and it's exactly my attitude. |
| [21:43:47] | iamlindoro: | Not like I did anything for the them competition or anything |
| [21:43:51] | iamlindoro: | except for coming up with it |
| [21:43:55] | iamlindoro: | and writing all the announcements |
| [21:43:59] | iamlindoro: | and getting all the prizes |
| [21:44:06] | iamlindoro: | and answering all the technical questions |
| [21:44:08] | iamlindoro: | and tallying the votes |
| [21:44:11] | iamlindoro: | and handling the results |
| [21:44:14] | iamlindoro: | and sending the prizes |
| [21:44:36] | iamlindoro: | And writing the MythUI docs from scratch |
| [21:44:50] | skd5aner: | all hail iamlindoro! |
| [21:44:54] | iamlindoro: | So yeah, fair or unfair, my opinion is just way, way, WAY more important than yours :) |
| [21:45:02] | Wicked: | lol. i was just trying to say that if it was bettered advertised on the main page...oh idk...maybe in the new section...more people would have seen and voted. |
| [21:45:06] | dfletcher: | heh my wife knew about that contest :P |
| [21:45:11] | Wicked: | no need to rant |
| [21:45:15] | iamlindoro: | Wicked: We had plenty of votes |
| [21:45:18] | dfletcher: | and I wasn't the one who told her |
| [21:45:36] | feitingen: | i always appreciate docs :) |
| [21:45:39] | Wicked: | i knew of the contest too |
| [21:45:46] | Wicked: | i just did not see where to vote |
| [21:45:57] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, end of discussion, we didn't get your vote, and nothing of value was lost |
| [21:46:03] | skd5aner: | I'm sure the winner didn't win by 1 vote... |
| [21:46:04] | Wicked: | i saw the news article on the frontpage and assumed when it was time to vote they would update the page |
| [21:46:05] | dfletcher: | I'm just saying, there was info everywhere :P |
| [21:46:07] | iamlindoro: | We managed to scrape by anyway |
| [21:46:38] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: Nah, the winner was pretty clear cut... and the public vote only counted as a "phantom dev" anyway |
| [21:46:40] | Wicked: | theres no need to give off such attitude all the time iamlindoro |
| [21:47:06] | iamlindoro: | Wicked: I know, but it's just so terribly fun. Sorry if I'm not Ubuntu-y enough about your very important suggestions |
| [21:47:11] | Wicked: | its really not needed and mostly counter productive for everyone |
| [21:47:13] | sphery: | in the new section? Like http://www.mythtv.org/news/ ? # 2009-11–07: MythTV Theming Competition (announcement) |
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| [21:47:30] | Wicked: | what does ubuntu have to do with anything we are taling about? |
| [21:47:30] | skd5aner: | if only phatom dev would have a higher commit count! ;) |
| [21:47:37] | Wicked: | sphery, yea i saw that |
| [21:47:50] | iamlindoro: | "Hi, and thanks for taking the time to improve the MythTV project with your very critical and important suggestion. We here at the MythTV project assure you that you are special and individual, just like everybody else." |
| [21:48:05] | Wicked: | i see nothing about voting on that post though sphery |
| [21:48:22] | sphery: | oh, yeah, the voting one was replaced when voting was over |
| [21:48:27] | iamlindoro: | As we've mentioned multiple times, it was changed when voting ahppened, and removed thereafter |
| [21:49:43] | feitingen: | a bit off-topic, and a bit lazy: but what are the chances of finding docs on writing plugins in the svn? |
| [21:49:56] | dustybin: | is there still more work to be done for the mythtv ui theme engine? or can one now start making themes with all the options available? |
| [21:50:19] | iamlindoro: | feitingen: There is a sample plugin, mythhello, whose docs were updated-- it's a VERY bare-bones start, though |
| [21:50:30] | mzb: | dustybin: embedded video? |
| [21:50:35] | iamlindoro: | feitingen: Real learning comes from working with the existing plugins |
| [21:50:40] | dfletcher: | heh you wrote these docs iamlindoro? been reading the themers guide on wiki all weekend. thanks, it's great :) |
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| [21:51:04] | feitingen: | iamlindoro: thought so.. thanks for including the barebones though :) |
| [21:51:14] | iamlindoro: | dfletcher: No worries, thanks-- tried to make it accessible even though it's a mountain of info-- IMO if you read it from the beginning, and pay attention, each part builds on the former parts fairly well |
| [21:51:45] | dfletcher: | iamlindoro, heh yeah though I was missing the "mile high view" untll I got to the very end, the .xml files |
| [21:52:09] | iamlindoro: | dfletcher: On the other hand, if you get that far, you have all the tools you need to turn the XML documentation into a real theme |
| [21:52:15] | dfletcher: | yep! |
| [21:52:18] | iamlindoro: | (and the tutorial should help too) |
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| [21:52:45] | johnnyj: | sphery: for the dummy tuner – do you think a probe method of testing access to the mpg file is appropriate? |
| [21:53:00] | skd5aner: | LOST is a re-run tonight, correct? |
| [21:53:17] | iamlindoro: | skd5aner: I believe so |
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| [21:54:27] | skd5aner: | good, thanks. Noticed it wasn't on my upcomming recordings list, and my wife would likely castrate me if it wasn't a rerun and didn't record |
| [21:55:38] | sphery: | johnnyj: definitely would make sense to check that we have read perms on the file |
| [21:55:50] | sphery: | how/where to do that, I couldn't say |
| [21:56:07] | sphery: | others know the capture card setup better than me |
| [21:56:30] | johnnyj: | videosource.cpp is big enough to get lost in |
| [21:56:36] | johnnyj: | but the probe method is in there |
| [21:56:49] | johnnyj: | with all the other tuner classes |
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| [21:58:59] | skd5aner: | heh – in relation to that "worst company in America" consumerist article from earlier: http://consumerist.com/2010/04/verizon-rubs-c . . . any-win.html |
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| [22:24:32] | sphery: | anyone have any clue what the "msec program" is? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . c.perm.local |
| [22:25:51] | wagnerrp: | looks like a mandrake/mandriva thing |
| [22:26:13] | wagnerrp: | http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Tools/msec |
| [22:26:18] | janneg: | Mandrake-Security package |
| [22:26:39] | sphery: | thx |
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| [22:45:37] | nutron: | wagnerrp: about the subtitle support you were talking about earlier. I mkv'd all of my dvd's (400+) with text subtitles. Does that mean I have to re-do the ones with foreign languages in 'em? Or is there support slated for the internal player to support text subs? |
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| [23:11:55] | nutron: | Or I could write it *cough*.. someday :) |
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| [23:23:32] | gizmobay: | I can't get jamu to work with 0.23. I get a mismatched schema version |
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| [23:24:01] | gizmobay: | database speaks 1032 we speak 1033 |
| [23:24:42] | iamlindoro: | you need to match your versions of Myth, the bindings, and Jamu. They all need to be from the same revision. You currently have a mismatch |
| [23:24:56] | iamlindoro: | update everything to the same revision, and it'll work fine |
| [23:25:21] | gizmobay: | How can that be I compile |
| [23:25:42] | iamlindoro: | leaving old versions of one or more of the above around, and trying to run them against each other |
| [23:25:54] | iamlindoro: | How about this, I'll bet you one million dollars that the above is true. |
| [23:26:05] | gizmobay: | doesn't make install take care of that? |
| [23:26:13] | iamlindoro: | nope |
| [23:26:52] | iamlindoro: | you can't just endlessly steamroll over old installs, eventually... well, this happens |
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| [23:27:46] | iamlindoro: | also, you' |
| [23:27:54] | iamlindoro: | you're not on .23 |
| [23:28:00] | iamlindoro: | as 1033 is the trunk mythvideo schema |
| [23:30:41] | dfletcher: | heh I noticed that the unofficial windows build guy claims 0.23 but has a 1033 schema too |
| [23:30:50] | gizmobay: | so I'm on what's going to be 0.24? |
| [23:31:06] | gizmobay: | okay, I see |
| [23:31:12] | iamlindoro: | some portion of the code on your system is post .23 |
| [23:31:32] | ** iamlindoro is fairly sure, given he committed schema version 1033 (and 1032, and 1031...) ** | |
| [23:31:58] | gizmobay: | can I go back to 0.23 or am I hosed? |
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| [23:32:15] | iamlindoro: | well, according to the error message, the DB is still 1032 |
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| [23:32:45] | gizmobay: | I see. Okay, I'll recompile 0.23 |
| [23:32:49] | iamlindoro: | without knowing what part of your system is .23, and what part is trunk, it's tough to give you advice |
| [23:33:42] | gizmobay: | I'll make a backup of db just in case |
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