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| [00:00:03] | wagnerrp: | you point mythtv at the database |
| [00:00:09] | wagnerrp: | and then mythtv decides where it should go from there |
| [00:00:17] | wagnerrp: | (that means you should only be running one database as well) |
| [00:00:25] | bjd: | yeah, but thats usually local to a backend |
| [00:00:29] | edomeda: | does underscore -> space work for filenames only? I've got some directories with underscores but they don't get converted in the video list. |
| [00:00:34] | lucidblue: | okay, I'll just keep that process from starting then... so in mythtv-setup, there's a spot for a 'local backend', and one for 'master backend'... should I just point both those to the remote? |
| [00:00:36] | RDV_Linux: | KungFuJesus: I just looked at the pastebin you posted earlier about Jamu and a UnicodeDecodeError error. Your cron environment has not been set up as UTF8 follow #6 of this link: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Jamu#This_stupid_t . . . _not_work.21 Cron does not always inherit the same environment as your terminal session. |
| [00:01:20] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: that only works for the filename parsing used when loading new videos/movies |
| [00:01:40] | lucidblue: | and it has a spot for 'security pin', not sure where I'll find that on the other machine, it's been a long time since I've message with it |
| [00:01:44] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, so I guess I need to use spaces in dir names then? yuck |
| [00:01:50] | wagnerrp: | why yuck? |
| [00:02:21] | edomeda: | I just hate spaces, makes things bit more complicated. :) |
| [00:02:39] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: your other option is to let mythvideo scrap the given directory structure completely |
| [00:02:46] | wagnerrp: | and have it formulate its own menu |
| [00:03:09] | wagnerrp: | i think thats in 'sort by' |
| [00:03:17] | Beirdo: | gbee: #4954 should get fixed in trunk is the idea? Sounds like a plan |
| [00:06:53] | edomeda: | so if a movie doesn't exist on themoviedb, how would I go about adding all the metadata? |
| [00:07:26] | wagnerrp: | add the movie to themoviedb and wait for it to be pushed out to their API cache servers |
| [00:07:36] | edomeda: | :) |
| [00:11:13] | edomeda: | take it we can't just cut/paste from imdb.com ? :) |
| [00:11:18] | gbee: | more that it's still an issue in trunk, version == bug/patch against this version, milestone == version we intend to contain a fix/patch |
| [00:12:01] | lucidblue: | were can I go to change where mythfrontend is looking for the DB? |
| [00:12:04] | sphery: | yay! contrib weighs 4 scripts less |
| [00:12:09] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: nope, youve got to write it up in your own words |
| [00:12:09] | lucidblue: | I can't find it in mythtv-setup |
| [00:12:24] | wagnerrp: | sphery: feel free to pull my stuff out of contrib and put it on the wiki |
| [00:12:59] | gbee: | Beirdo: we're going through the 0.21/0.22 tickets trying to establish which are still relevant to 0.23/trunk, hence bumping the version on some tickets, closing others or requesting users try a newer release |
| [00:13:34] | gbee: | if an issue was reported against 0.21, but still exists in a more recent version, then the ticket should be updated to reflect that |
| [00:13:52] | edomeda: | yeah, so any other options? much rather use stuff people have done like on imdb, anyway to import that into myth |
| [00:14:12] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: not legally |
| [00:14:34] | wagnerrp: | IMDB has decided to take all that user generated content, and lock it down behind restrictions against scrapers |
| [00:14:52] | wagnerrp: | if you must use it, they make a text-only database available for download and local searching |
| [00:15:40] | gbee: | I think you even sign over rights to the content you submit to imdb as part of their T&Cs, though don't hold me to that |
| [00:15:59] | Beirdo: | gbee: gotcha. Perfect. |
| [00:16:01] | wagnerrp: | gbee: im sure thats in there somewhere |
| [00:16:17] | gbee: | not that anyone has the right to use the data just because it was created by other users anyway |
| [00:16:51] | Beirdo: | it would be nice to close a lot of the ancient tickets for sure |
| [00:17:29] | edomeda: | I don't need to automate it it, just wanted to cut and paste a few obscure movies. |
| [00:17:50] | wagnerrp: | you own the movies? youve watched them? |
| [00:17:56] | wagnerrp: | just write up your own summary in your own words |
| [00:18:10] | edomeda: | with all the rights now days, it's hard to sneeze without getting sued by someone |
| [00:18:18] | wagnerrp: | should have all the cast information you need on the case |
| [00:18:29] | wagnerrp: | or in the credits at the end of the film |
| [00:18:35] | edomeda: | several are my wife's, I've not watched, nor am I going to. lol |
| [00:18:50] | sphery: | wagnerrp: any specific ones? |
| [00:19:04] | wagnerrp: | tell he if she wants more than a blank question mark, she needs to do it |
| [00:19:14] | wagnerrp: | sphery: anything ive put up there |
| [00:19:33] | wagnerrp: | i dont think theres anything besides mythvidexport and mythfs |
| [00:19:35] | gbee: | Beirdo: yeah it would be nice to make a dent, ticket triage was non-existent for a period so we fell well behind, even now triage efforts aren't really keeping pace, so there are a huge number of invalid or outdated tickets still in the system |
| [00:20:03] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ok... thanks |
| [00:20:13] | Beirdo: | gbee: I'll see what I can do post-move :) right now... not much time to work bugs, etc. |
| [00:20:17] | wagnerrp: | or if you want, ill take care of it |
| [00:20:39] | ** Beirdo yawns ** | |
| [00:20:59] | sphery: | edomeda: IMDb steals all the content that users submit and makes it their own |
| [00:21:13] | wagnerrp: | is that 'myth_upcoming_recordings' basically a terminal pretty-printer for the backend status page? |
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| [00:21:30] | sphery: | edomeda: themoviedb.org ftw! |
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| [00:21:38] | matmat: | hello |
| [00:22:08] | wagnerrp: | and that mythical... do we even need that? considering mythweb doesnt the same thing |
| [00:22:11] | sphery: | wagnerrp: no, it gives output of upcoming recordings--either in plain text or backend html. You can specify you only want conflicts or all sorts of stuff |
| [00:22:26] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so, for example, I can have a section at the bottom of my backend status page that shows all conflicts |
| [00:22:41] | sphery: | and it has the same mouseover/detail popup as the "next 10 recordings" |
| [00:22:55] | sphery: | also can specify number of recordings or amount of time from now or ... |
| [00:22:58] | matmat: | after updating the autobuilds my video is zoomed and blocky, is that a known issue? |
| [00:22:59] | wagnerrp: | oooh... so these are are scripts intended to provide additional information to the backend status page |
| [00:23:00] | wagnerrp: | neat |
| [00:23:08] | sphery: | mythical probably isn't necessary with mythweb support |
| [00:23:16] | sphery: | mythweb support was added right after that script went in |
| [00:23:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: right :) |
| [00:23:39] | sphery: | though... does mythical? |
| [00:23:43] | gbee: | matmat: no |
| [00:24:27] | sphery: | wagnerrp: thanks for pointing that out--it's not a misc status script. I'll recat it (just moved whatever was in that dir) |
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| [00:26:09] | matmat: | its like i set my tv to zoom to display a non native aspect ratio |
| [00:26:23] | matmat: | only my tv has decent upscaling |
| [00:26:47] | lucidblue: | huh, the mythfrontend on the distro for my desktop won't move forward because it wants to upgrade the DB schema from 1214 to 1244, I'm assuming that would cause my current mythfrontend on the other machine not work right? |
| [00:26:55] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I actually use myth_recent_recordings.pl to show all the shows recorded today (in the last 24 hours). It's nice to be able to see that at the bottom of the page. |
| [00:26:58] | matmat: | and also theres no need to zoom |
| [00:27:34] | wagnerrp: | sphery: ah, i just look at the recently completed jobs for that |
| [00:27:34] | sphery: | wagnerrp: also, if the main readme/description page doesn't make clear what these are for, feel free to edit |
| [00:27:44] | sphery: | those jobs don't stay long |
| [00:28:04] | wagnerrp: | commflag jobs generally stay for a day or so |
| [00:28:16] | sphery: | (the ability for anyone to edit is the huge advantage of wiki placement over SVN placement) |
| [00:28:23] | wagnerrp: | i guess they get flushed by the daily cleanup in the backend |
| [00:28:52] | sphery: | you mean the Job Queue section of the backend status page? |
| [00:28:58] | edomeda: | is it possible to have a different filename then the metadata title for a iso? |
| [00:29:03] | sphery: | those get cleared soon after they complete for me... |
| [00:29:32] | wagnerrp: | sphery: they usually stay around for a while on mine |
| [00:29:50] | sphery: | edomeda: you can always edit metadata, so once it "guesses" a title from the filename, just use M or I (?) to get to Edit Metadata and edit the title |
| [00:29:50] | wagnerrp: | better part of a day |
| [00:30:04] | sphery: | weird |
| [00:30:27] | sphery: | I can catch mine if I look soon after primetime, but the next morning they're all gone |
| [00:31:55] | highzeth: | less than 12h lifespan here |
| [00:33:01] | edomeda: | very odd, it tells me it can find the movie, then a few seconds later it pops up with the data. |
| [00:34:13] | sphery: | can = can't? |
| [00:34:38] | sphery: | might be a timeout thing? |
| [00:34:40] | edomeda: | yeah, my bad, was up late messing with all this |
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| [00:35:12] | sphery: | first time I hit tmdb, I get nothing because their name servers are dead slow |
| [00:35:17] | edomeda: | yeah, my internet isn't the best, but the search just sits there and then goes back to the main screen, or it says can't find the movie... then later when on another movie it pops up |
| [00:35:20] | sphery: | after that, all works fine |
| [00:37:47] | javatexan: | i need a good little box to do mythtv frontend, but i also want it to have 2 nics, any ideas |
| [00:38:02] | javatexan: | smaller the better |
| [00:38:03] | edomeda: | I tried the "i", metadata, enter title, then it searches and goes back to the movie list without any changes |
| [00:38:20] | highzeth: | something I noticed today, wonder if its a design choice or "bug". If you edit a recording thats in progress, and when done with marking cutpoints, exit the edit menu, it will add any remaining minutes instead of keeping it cut out. Which leaves me to either wait to edit last segment/cutpoint or remove the new myth added ones done recording |
| [00:38:24] | edomeda: | ah, nvm, took 3 minutes there |
| [00:38:47] | iamlindoro: | edomeda, when it finds something, it does all the grabbing in the background-- you are seeing it take forever because of your poor internet connection |
| [00:39:24] | iamlindoro: | everything you are describing appears to be attributable to extremely slow connection to TMDB |
| [00:39:44] | edomeda: | ok, np, just didn't know it was backgrounding the task |
| [00:40:13] | edomeda: | now, all this manual edits, metadata fetching will be the same for all my FE, right? |
| [00:40:24] | iamlindoro: | Under normal circumstances with decent connection, a search completes in a few moments, and several seconds later the title will be populated with images and text-- understandable that it would seem odd with such long delays, but the only thing that appears to be causing that is the very slow connection to TMDB |
| [00:41:03] | iamlindoro: | As long as your videos, fanart, screenshots, banners, etc. dirs are all mounted to the same path on all frontends, you need only query metadata once, and it will be visible on all your systems |
| [00:41:36] | sphery: | so, Category:User_Jobs or Category:User_Job_Scripts |
| [00:41:41] | sphery: | maybe the latter? |
| [00:41:45] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [00:41:49] | iamlindoro: | rather, I agree |
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| [00:42:28] | sphery: | thx |
| [00:44:09] | sphery: | MPU! |
| [00:44:21] | Beirdo: | UMP! |
| [00:44:25] | sphery: | (3 sub categories, in the M, the P, and the U of the alphabet) |
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| [00:50:02] | sphery: | wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythvidexport.py if you want to put a watch on it |
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| [00:52:05] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so what benefit do User Jobs have over running scripts based on events completion? Just the queuing/guaranteed-single-host-processing? Or could that be done through the generic event system? |
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| [00:53:01] | wagnerrp: | theyre run in a queue, specifically when the user requests them |
| [00:53:08] | wagnerrp: | rather than based on some uncontrollable event |
| [00:53:28] | wagnerrp: | for that script, the user has to specify that they want it moved to mythvideo |
| [00:53:35] | wagnerrp: | generally after performing a transcode |
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| [00:58:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ah, that makes sense--jobs that /can/ happen at recording completion, /or/ upon user request. |
| [00:58:49] | sphery: | just wondering on a general level--not related to that script, specifically |
| [00:59:20] | wagnerrp: | basically, user jobs are ones that occur once, at the request of the user... event jobs are ones that occur on multiple machines, at the request of mythtv |
| [00:59:43] | sphery: | yeah, makes sense |
| [00:59:47] | eljefe: | Im having screen corruption where the top half of the screen during tv playback is at the bottom. and it is all flickery and jaggy. using ati hd3300 and fglrx |
| [00:59:57] | ** Beirdo creates a user job to fetch a beer from the fridge ** | |
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| [01:00:08] | sphery: | since I had only really seen user jobs used automatically after recording, I hadn't put together the distinction, yet |
| [01:00:21] | sphery: | eljefe: 2 copies of the image? |
| [01:00:37] | wagnerrp: | beirdo: see, now thats wrong |
| [01:00:45] | eljefe: | no, just shifted about halfway up and then continued from the bottom |
| [01:00:46] | Beirdo: | oh? |
| [01:00:56] | wagnerrp: | thats an event, that would be automatically triggered by mythtv upon connection of a frontend |
| [01:00:57] | Beirdo: | why would that be wrong? :) |
| [01:01:03] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [01:01:11] | wagnerrp: | you sit down at the frontend, mythtv provides you a beer |
| [01:01:13] | Beirdo: | or at the completion of every show |
| [01:01:14] | sphery: | eljefe: if so, you need to stop using Bob deinterlacing... Change your Playback Profile group to Slim (Utilitites/Setup|Setup|TV Settings|Playback, 3rd screen). |
| [01:01:16] | wagnerrp: | you dont want to have to request that |
| [01:01:22] | sphery: | eljefe: I'd still recommend trying Slim. |
| [01:01:29] | Beirdo: | good point |
| [01:01:53] | Beirdo: | meanwhile, it didn't work, so I'll have to go fetch one myself. Bah |
| [01:02:21] | sphery: | where's the event system wiki page... |
| [01:02:50] | ** sphery needs to ref it for the event system scripts page ** | |
| [01:02:50] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_System_Events |
| [01:03:01] | sphery: | nice! |
| [01:03:02] | sphery: | thanks |
| [01:03:10] | eljefe: | sphery: thanks you're awesome |
| [01:03:22] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so the scripts for that page should be Category:MythTV_System_Event_Scripts |
| [01:03:37] | sphery: | eljefe: Would you say you have a plethora of images? |
| [01:04:03] | sphery: | eljefe: it's broken video drivers, but on the bright side, all it breaks is something you don't want, anyway :) |
| [01:04:16] | wagnerrp: | sphery: IMO, you just move that page itself to a category |
| [01:04:30] | wagnerrp: | and leave the link there as a reference to it |
| [01:04:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I've been making a main page, then a scripts page |
| [01:04:50] | eljefe: | a plethora of images? no its actually pretty smooth |
| [01:05:05] | sphery: | like http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Miscellan . . . tion_Scripts , which links to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Miscellaneous_Status_Information |
| [01:05:06] | eljefe: | the new fglrx driver kinda finally works |
| [01:05:17] | sphery: | eljefe: that was a bad reference to The Three Amigos movie |
| [01:05:22] | sphery: | plethora comment |
| [01:05:51] | sphery: | even though you're not elguapo |
| [01:06:08] | Beirdo: | I haven't seen that movie in years |
| [01:06:42] | eljefe: | sphery: so I can basically use any profile that doesnt use the bob deinterlacer? |
| [01:06:45] | sphery: | seems there's no The in that |
| [01:06:46] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: in that case, its really an evil man trying to kill you |
| [01:07:00] | sphery: | eljefe: you can't use Bob... You can just change the deinterlacer yourself |
| [01:07:13] | sphery: | but really you should create custom profile groups rather than editing examples |
| [01:07:14] | ** Beirdo starts drinking an MGD ** | |
| [01:07:21] | sphery: | eljefe: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Playback_profiles |
| [01:07:23] | eljefe: | yea i just got that off the wiki |
| [01:08:01] | sphery: | eljefe: re the bad reference, see http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092086/quotes starting with, "Jefe: I have put many beautiful pinatas in the storeroom, each of them filled with little suprises." |
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| [01:09:00] | eljefe: | heh, I have to say I haven't seen that movie since I was like 8 |
| [01:09:22] | sphery: | yeah, it is kind of old |
| [01:11:09] | eljefe: | how about if myth says it is using all inputs but there are no active recordings? Then if i start mythbackend-setup and exit, then restart mythfrontend it works |
| [01:12:06] | wagnerrp: | eljefe: are you running mythbuntu? |
| [01:12:07] | skd5aner: | anyone know why jamu would do this: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1859177 ? |
| [01:12:38] | eljefe: | ubuntu |
| [01:13:05] | wagnerrp: | then starting mythtv-setup through their wrapper scripts is automatically stopping mythbackend |
| [01:13:17] | wagnerrp: | whatever your problem, it seems to be solved by restarting the backend |
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| [01:14:15] | skd5aner: | hmmm, that pastebin not working? |
| [01:14:33] | wagnerrp: | pastebin works just fine |
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| [01:14:47] | eljefe: | is it possible the backend isn't starting at all? |
| [01:15:07] | wagnerrp: | no, that would result in a different error |
| [01:15:17] | eljefe: | k |
| [01:15:32] | skd5aner: | pastebin – wasn't loading for me, were you able to load it? |
| [01:16:13] | skd5aner: | ah, loading fine now |
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| [01:17:01] | skd5aner: | anway – when I run jamu -MR, it finds the movie find, auto selects it /then/ says that it doesn't recognize the movie (that it already selected) and skips the metadata |
| [01:17:14] | skd5aner: | for *some* of my movies, others are working fine |
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| [01:21:45] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: What is happening is that the file name "SPINAL_TAP" is too different then the real movie name "This Is Spinal Tap". As there is only one choice Jamu is skipping it. Go into MythVideo and press "w" for that one. There will not be many of those. |
| [01:22:02] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: good evening :) |
| [01:22:53] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: What is very odd is that I am watching a movie which just mentioned "This Is Spinal Tap" not 5 minutes ago;) |
| [01:23:07] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: yea, it seems to be happening to lots of them... for example "40_YEAR_OLD_VIRGIN" |
| [01:23:26] | skd5aner: | why does the search come back that it found it, and that it'll auto select it, yet it then says it doesn't know the movie? |
| [01:23:45] | wagnerrp: | youre running it in non-interactive mode |
| [01:23:56] | skd5aner: | Wagnerrp: -MR |
| [01:24:06] | skd5aner: | it *is* an interactive mode |
| [01:24:07] | wagnerrp: | since it does not have a direct match, it will not guess |
| [01:24:08] | sphery: | wagnerrp: if we put mythfs.py in the wiki, would you like it in a subcategory page? |
| [01:24:22] | wagnerrp: | sphery: dont worry about it, ill take care of it later tonight |
| [01:24:32] | wagnerrp: | are you removing these from trunk? or 0.23 as well? |
| [01:24:32] | sphery: | OK... |
| [01:24:40] | skd5aner: | correct me if I'm wrong RDV_Linux |
| [01:24:42] | sphery: | just trunk for now |
| [01:24:57] | skd5aner: | also, that's pretty funny that was the random movie I picked and you just watched it :) |
| [01:25:13] | sphery: | don't know if any distros are doing anything with them that would make their packaging more difficult |
| [01:25:21] | sphery: | so I figured at a version change is better |
| [01:25:37] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: unfortunatly, it's not just a few movies, it's maybe half of mine |
| [01:26:00] | sphery: | wagnerrp: though I /am/ all set up to do a page for mythfs.py... |
| [01:26:06] | sphery: | would only take moments |
| [01:26:57] | wagnerrp: | ok, dont know what category i would put it in |
| [01:27:01] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: That could be a bug. I used -MI and the same thing happened. |
| [01:27:04] | wagnerrp: | where ever mythlink.pl is going i suppose |
| [01:27:43] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: I will look at this in more detail tomorrow. |
| [01:28:11] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1859179 – check out the last one... |
| [01:28:29] | skd5aner: | I even selected it, and it still failed :) |
| [01:28:43] | sphery: | wagnerrp: can be recategorized easily, so I'll go ahead and start it and we can move it if desired. |
| [01:28:50] | sphery: | thanks |
| [01:29:03] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: Alright, no problem... I can sleep on it for a few days, if I'm around feel free to ping me if you need any more info/details |
| [01:29:18] | wagnerrp: | youre thanking me for letting you do my work? |
| [01:29:26] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: btw, I just upgraded to .23-fixes, so that's what version I'm running |
| [01:29:26] | wagnerrp: | i guess ill go along with that... :) |
| [01:30:08] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [01:31:27] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: have a good night, thanks |
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| [01:33:35] | sphery: | wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythfs.py currently in Scripts (top level) and Python_Scripts |
| [01:34:02] | sphery: | I just did a placeholder description for it--feel free to edit/expand/correct :) |
| [01:35:20] | wagnerrp: | will do, thanks |
| [01:35:57] | sphery: | thank /you/ for allowing me to move them |
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| [01:39:09] | skd5aner: | sphery: my wife just made brownies :D |
| [01:39:19] | edomeda: | I'm having trouble with my antenna and signal strength, should I need to rescan all my existing channels every time I try and tune my amp gain? Can I just try and tune to channels that were there before but too low to lock on previously. (DVB-T) |
| [01:40:46] | sphery: | skd5aner: heh, cool... I'll have to actually cut mine tonight |
| [01:40:55] | [R]: | edomeda: if you already were picking it up... what is scanning gonna do? |
| [01:41:07] | skd5aner: | haha, we couldn't wait – 10 mins out of the oven -HOT! |
| [01:41:16] | sphery: | edomeda: you can rescan without clearing out the old stuff--sometimes that works |
| [01:41:30] | sphery: | skd5aner: wow... with some vanilla ice cream that would be really good |
| [01:41:56] | ** sphery wonders if http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7842 is just the broken XvMC VLD garbage ** | |
| [01:41:57] | skd5aner: | no ice cream :( :( – at least I got the tall glass of milk |
| [01:42:08] | sphery: | that works, too |
| [01:42:47] | edomeda: | sphery, well I keep getting way different channel numbers. They should be 1–15, but I'm getting 1200–1205, 2200–2210, etc. Even though the channels seem to show as TV1 for example. |
| [01:43:01] | skd5aner: | had a geek moment about 45 mins ago... the wife said "I think I want to make brownies" and I said "sphery just made some" – she stared at me like "wtf are you talking about"? |
| [01:43:14] | skd5aner: | then I had to explain, she still was like "uh, ok?" |
| [01:43:41] | skd5aner: | don't blame her, ha |
| [01:43:56] | edomeda: | I can't seem to lock on to more then one transmitter at a time either. We have 3 primary channels here, 47,49,50, that give us all our stations (about 15) |
| [01:45:25] | edomeda: | problem is I can only use indoor antennas, so trying to work with a few different types. My tv (with frewview built in) picks them up even without amplified antenna, but I can't get hvr-2200 to get them all no matter what I try. |
| [01:46:07] | edomeda: | anyone got some good tips? I've been searching on the forums/etc. |
| [01:49:01] | sphery: | edomeda: those are channel ID's, right? |
| [01:49:17] | sphery: | skd5aner: heh, that's funny |
| [01:49:31] | edomeda: | sphery, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeview_%28New_ . . . Transmitters |
| [01:50:34] | sphery: | edomeda: if the numbers you're giving me are channel numbers, that's because the scanner doesn't have enough info from the stream to give them the proper logical channel number. If they're mythtv channel ID's, that means you're creating redundant copies of channels and completely breaking your setup. |
| [01:50:49] | sphery: | edomeda: I highly recommend the video sources portion of http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [01:51:54] | edomeda: | I tried using fetch, but it didn't work for me, (NZ not US) |
| [01:53:27] | edomeda: | sphery, so I should delete all video sources, then re-create using EIT grabber? |
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| [02:09:40] | edomeda: | anyone know if there is a way to just keep the signal and SN on screen but not try and decode the stream, so I can tune channels? |
| [02:10:16] | sphery: | heh, strangest layout ever... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:User_Job_Scripts D and D cont. |
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| [02:11:10] | sphery: | edomeda: I generally just get the channel to tune well enough to give me some picture, then bring it up in Live TV, then use the signal monitor (F7, maybe?) |
| [02:13:32] | edomeda: | sphery, f7 doesn't work for me. |
| [02:14:32] | sphery: | edomeda: go into Utilities/Setup|Edit Keys and figure out what the signal monitor is mapped to |
| [02:14:57] | sphery: | edomeda: it's likely Alt+F7 |
| [02:15:05] | sphery: | look in TV Playback context |
| [02:15:10] | sphery: | SIGNALMON |
| [02:15:23] | wagnerrp: | huh? 'one dual dvbt, two dvbs, one dvbs2/dvbt, one dual dvbs2, one atsc' |
| [02:15:33] | wagnerrp: | not sure what he intends to do with that last one |
| [02:15:39] | edomeda: | ah, alt-f7 |
| [02:15:52] | sphery: | wagnerrp: or the first bunch of them if he /is/ in the US |
| [02:16:23] | sphery: | guess not... UK |
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| [02:18:46] | ** sphery wonders if http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . hname/README is by SnowMan ** | |
| [02:19:49] | sphery: | (based on email at bottom) |
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| [02:22:14] | PaulWay: | Hi all! |
| [02:34:06] | sphery: | Hi, Paul! |
| [02:34:09] | sphery: | (it rhymes :) |
| [02:36:07] | PaulWay: | :-) |
| [02:36:14] | PaulWay: | Got a question but first I'll have lunch. |
| [02:37:44] | wagnerrp: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mVxY2IJXBg |
| [02:37:48] | edomeda: | hate renting, can't put a real antenna up...grrr |
| [02:38:13] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: why not? no closets on an external wall? |
| [02:39:01] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, nope, all internal, I have two indoor with a splitter, also tried an amplified |
| [02:40:41] | edomeda: | and the house is brick with a metal roof. XD Worked ok for my TV, but not enough for my tuner card. |
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| [02:42:10] | darkdrgn2k: | hey, is it just me or is fast forwaring mvks very slow? |
| [02:42:11] | sphery: | wagnerrp: btw, I didn't test whether the python scripts were executable after copy/pasting from that wiki page. I hope spaces work where tabs do for indent. |
| [02:42:27] | wagnerrp: | what tabs? |
| [02:42:56] | wagnerrp: | darkdrgn2k: 3xff will perform a full decode of the video |
| [02:43:11] | wagnerrp: | meaning it will only run as fast as your CPU is actually capable of playing back the content |
| [02:43:31] | wagnerrp: | 5xFF or better will start jumping between keyframes |
| [02:45:03] | wagnerrp: | sphery: those two scripts had no tabs, all spaces |
| [02:45:06] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: ahh i see.. intersting, will going from a duo core to a quad help? |
| [02:45:20] | wagnerrp: | darkdrgn2k: what is the content? |
| [02:45:28] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: DVD not bluray |
| [02:45:42] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: DVD converted to MVK |
| [02:45:51] | wagnerrp: | that doesnt mean anything |
| [02:46:02] | sphery: | wagnerrp: cool... I don't know my Python, but I heard indenting was important and didn't know if it required tabs or something. |
| [02:46:05] | wagnerrp: | what is in the mkv? |
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| [02:46:26] | wagnerrp: | sphery: indenting is important, but you just have to continue with whatever you were doing on that first line |
| [02:46:34] | darkdrgn2k: | Selected video codec: [ffh264] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg H.264) |
| [02:46:36] | ** sphery is proud he even remembered to obfuscate e-mails in the scripts ** | |
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| [02:46:44] | wagnerrp: | tabs or spaces dont matter, its just the count |
| [02:46:56] | wagnerrp: | darkdrgn2k: and how many slices did you encode them with? |
| [02:47:04] | sphery: | wagnerrp: ah, nice... that means even if someone starts with tabs in SVN, when it's moved to wiki (and converted to space), it will work. |
| [02:47:42] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: not sure.. was using handbreak |
| [02:48:20] | wagnerrp: | open the file in 'less' |
| [02:48:33] | wagnerrp: | in the first couple KB, you should see some file descriptor |
| [02:48:49] | wagnerrp: | if youre lucky, it includes all the arguments you passed to the encoder |
| [02:48:59] | wagnerrp: | x264 behaves that way, i dont know what ffmpeg's encode does |
| [02:49:11] | darkdrgn2k: | doesnt look like it |
| [02:49:38] | darkdrgn2k: | 1 sec |
| [02:50:34] | darkdrgn2k: | ref=2:bframes=2:subq=6:mixed-refs=0:weightb=0:8x8dct=0:trellis=0 |
| [02:50:40] | sphery: | I need to get a Schedules Direct person to give me an answer about how they /want/ us to download data so I can delete smart_fill |
| [02:51:03] | wagnerrp: | darkdrgn2k: that was everything? |
| [02:51:20] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: file doesnt speicfy.. trying to figure out what handbreak actually does |
| [02:51:27] | wagnerrp: | if you dont specify the slice count, it probably uses the CPU count |
| [02:51:30] | wagnerrp: | or maybe CPU+1 |
| [02:51:36] | wagnerrp: | what did you encode this on? |
| [02:52:11] | darkdrgn2k: | handbreak |
| [02:52:21] | wagnerrp: | computer... what processor.... |
| [02:52:24] | darkdrgn2k: | oo sorry |
| [02:52:29] | darkdrgn2k: | windows xp quad core |
| [02:52:43] | darkdrgn2k: | was playing it on a amd duo core |
| [02:52:49] | wagnerrp: | in that case, its probably encoded with 4 or 5 slices |
| [02:53:00] | darkdrgn2k: | what are the slices? |
| [02:53:06] | darkdrgn2k: | never heard a refrence to them before |
| [02:53:17] | wagnerrp: | slices are the built in mechanism in h264 for handling multithreading |
| [02:53:29] | wagnerrp: | the 'slices' are actually physical slices of the screen |
| [02:53:36] | darkdrgn2k: | aaa interesting |
| [02:53:37] | wagnerrp: | it breaks up the screen into multiple domains |
| [02:53:43] | wagnerrp: | which are encoded independently |
| [02:53:49] | darkdrgn2k: | so each core decodes a part of the screen |
| [02:53:52] | wagnerrp: | at a minor loss in compression efficiency |
| [02:53:53] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [02:54:18] | wagnerrp: | the more slices, the more threads you can use to encode/decode |
| [02:54:26] | wagnerrp: | but the larger the file will be overall |
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| [02:56:54] | darkdrgn2k: | i think it may be 2 |
| [02:57:34] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt really matter |
| [02:57:37] | wagnerrp: | something else is going on |
| [02:57:59] | wagnerrp: | because any dual core processor should be able to decode that at several times realtime |
| [02:58:32] | darkdrgn2k: | i just put in the quad core havent dried it yet |
| [02:58:44] | darkdrgn2k: | but the duo core fast forwaring is slower then playing :-P |
| [02:59:32] | darkdrgn2k: | 3x seems ok.. |
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| [02:59:42] | darkdrgn2k: | 5x is very choppy.. andd inconsistnat |
| [02:59:58] | wagnerrp: | 5x will be, since mythtv is designed to use a seektable |
| [03:00:12] | wagnerrp: | a pre-compiled byte location of keyframes |
| [03:00:23] | darkdrgn2k: | any way to create them? |
| [03:00:35] | wagnerrp: | better to upgrade to 0.23 |
| [03:00:47] | darkdrgn2k: | lol that was my next question |
| [03:00:52] | darkdrgn2k: | .23 stable enough to use/ |
| [03:00:58] | wagnerrp: | there have been a lot of upgrades to that |
| [03:01:23] | darkdrgn2k: | i know .21 was unusable for a long perioud cause of all the qt4 migration |
| [03:01:32] | wagnerrp: | you mean trunk |
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| [03:01:41] | wagnerrp: | 0.21 was never unusable due to migrations |
| [03:01:57] | wagnerrp: | neither was 0.22 |
| [03:02:15] | wagnerrp: | the 0.23-fixes branch is similarly perfectly usable |
| [03:03:01] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: i beg to differ. there was a time when .22 was all messed up... granted it was like over a year ago |
| [03:03:14] | wagnerrp: | 0.22 did not exist a year ago |
| [03:03:28] | darkdrgn2k: | well trnk.. |
| [03:03:33] | wagnerrp: | trunk != 0.22 |
| [03:03:44] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL sorry |
| [03:03:54] | wagnerrp: | trunk is trunk, and should always be considered unstable |
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| [03:04:20] | darkdrgn2k: | granted |
| [03:04:36] | darkdrgn2k: | when did 23 get released? |
| [03:04:48] | wagnerrp: | technically, it has not yet been released |
| [03:05:03] | wagnerrp: | but thats due to extenuating circumstances |
| [03:05:06] | darkdrgn2k: | so whats release-0-23-fixes |
| [03:05:21] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL im behind the times i thoguh 22 was teh latest stable |
| [03:05:31] | wagnerrp: | the fixes branch, which will become the 0.23 release at such time as those circumstances are no longer extenuating |
| [03:05:47] | darkdrgn2k: | what the extenuating circumstanes |
| [03:05:52] | darkdrgn2k: | or is it top secret |
| [03:05:58] | wagnerrp: | not going to go into it |
| [03:06:05] | darkdrgn2k: | anywhere i can read up on it |
| [03:06:08] | ** darkdrgn2k curious ** | |
| [03:06:13] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [03:06:18] | darkdrgn2k: | okie :) |
| [03:06:32] | darkdrgn2k: | any word on fixing bitmap subtitles in mkvs :-P |
| [03:06:47] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression those worked just fine |
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| [03:07:05] | darkdrgn2k: | it works fine |
| [03:07:18] | darkdrgn2k: | but the streching of them create a wierd aura around them |
| [03:07:25] | wagnerrp: | i thought the only thing not supported were the text based SRT subs, embedded in the mkv |
| [03:07:34] | wagnerrp: | ah, wouldnt know about that |
| [03:07:43] | wagnerrp: | might have something to do with your OSD renderer |
| [03:07:47] | wagnerrp: | what are you using? |
| [03:08:02] | darkdrgn2k: | Qt and OpenGL both do it |
| [03:08:09] | edomeda: | what is BE on the signalmon? |
| [03:08:14] | wagnerrp: | well scratch that... |
| [03:08:19] | wagnerrp: | signalmon? |
| [03:08:25] | edomeda: | signal monitor |
| [03:08:36] | edomeda: | alt-f7 |
| [03:08:44] | wagnerrp: | ah, dont know what that would be |
| [03:09:10] | edomeda: | signal 98% S/N 2.3db BE 25000 (L) Lock |
| [03:09:22] | edomeda: | BE changes like crazy all the way up to 65535 |
| [03:09:32] | wagnerrp: | bit error rate? |
| [03:09:43] | edomeda: | maybe, seems lower is better |
| [03:10:32] | jamesd_laptop: | wow i thought mine was bad i only get 4.8db with glorified rabit ears |
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| [03:11:19] | edomeda: | jamesd_laptop, yeah, I'm really struggling with my antennas. |
| [03:11:27] | darkdrgn2k: | http://imagebin.ca/view/SSQ8NfrD.html <- thats what i mean |
| [03:11:34] | darkdrgn2k: | notice funky aura around subtitle |
| [03:13:24] | wagnerrp: | i dont know what would cause that |
| [03:13:26] | jamesd_laptop: | edomeda, yeqh i know lately have been acting up and i followed all the isntructions... farther away from the tv and computer and the picture gets worse, now its between the tv and computer and i get okay but it changes some times morning are good, and some times not, and the night time its good or bad you can never tell. |
| [03:13:39] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: all the conversions have it.. only in myth :-P |
| [03:13:53] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, ive only got a handful of stuff with subtitles |
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| [03:14:04] | darkdrgn2k: | no worries :) |
| [03:15:03] | darkdrgn2k: | do you know if the negative coordiante in opengel been fixed? |
| [03:15:54] | darkdrgn2k: | where it usses 99% cpu just sitting at the main menu under certain skins |
| [03:16:13] | edomeda: | jamesd_laptop, I'm trying so hard as to put two antennas on a spliter, on the top shelf of my closet. |
| [03:16:41] | darkdrgn2k: | edomeda: your gonna get signal loss with a splitter |
| [03:17:11] | ** mag0o has a homemade antenna (2x4 with copper wire) in the attic, split between 3 tv's with 70% signal on all tv's :) ** | |
| [03:17:21] | wagnerrp: | wait... youve got two separate antennae youre trying to combine? |
| [03:17:46] | jamesd_laptop: | edomeda, its very frustrating i know.. a few times i got perfect all channels no pixelization at 2am... them at 10am the next day it was so bad had to start over at 2 hours the night before. |
| [03:17:47] | edomeda: | darkdrgn2k, I've got an amp on one antenna, which also has an "outside antenna" port as well |
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| [03:18:11] | darkdrgn2k: | edomeda: i never had luck with amps.. they created more noise then anything |
| [03:18:35] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, I've tried two different antennas, one at a time, then I'm trying two antennas with splitter (over 1wavelength apart) |
| [03:18:56] | edomeda: | darkdrgn2k, thing is both indoor antennas work for my tv, just not my tuner card |
| [03:19:27] | darkdrgn2k: | edomeda: tuner might be not as powerfull :-P |
| [03:19:32] | edomeda: | not sure my card is giving me good values, my signal is always 86–98% |
| [03:20:19] | edomeda: | like right now, I've got 98% signal, but my BE (bit errors?) is 22–35000 and my Signal/Noise ratio is 2.2–2.3 |
| [03:20:57] | edomeda: | but this channel is completely unwatchable |
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| [03:22:50] | edomeda: | jamesd_laptop, I did get a few channels in last night that were perfect, but today I can't get anything. Thinking of trying to build my own antenna |
| [03:23:34] | jamesd_laptop: | edomeda, might be easier to get out an out door antenna, the in door ones just cant compare apparently. |
| [03:24:08] | edomeda: | jamesd_laptop, I'd love to, but I'm renting and can't put one up. |
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| [03:29:04] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm |
| [03:29:10] | darkdrgn2k: | when i try to watch a recording |
| [03:29:11] | darkdrgn2k: | fe log goes |
| [03:29:12] | darkdrgn2k: | ProgramInfo(): Updated pathname '':'' -> '1047_20100402170000.mpg' |
| [03:29:17] | darkdrgn2k: | then |
| [03:29:18] | darkdrgn2k: | MainServer: HandleRemoteEncoder(cmd GET_STATE) Unknown encoder: 1 |
| [03:29:20] | darkdrgn2k: | and exits |
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| [03:30:25] | darkdrgn2k: | nm |
| [03:30:27] | darkdrgn2k: | db upgrade |
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| [03:32:20] | darkdrgn2k: | wow 23 is faster |
| [03:33:25] | PaulWay: | I'm getting a really weird error where, _sometimes_ my newly installed frontend says the DB version is 12440, and then sometimes it connects. |
| [03:33:55] | wagnerrp: | 1244? or 12440? |
| [03:33:59] | PaulWay: | Sometimes sound works and other times it says that it can't connect to ALSA device 'default??' where ?? are unicode characters. |
| [03:34:18] | PaulWay: | Program dates come up with similar unicode characters in them. |
| [03:34:54] | darkdrgn2k: | ok any idea why i cant wach any recordings now |
| [03:35:23] | PaulWay: | It's like the frontend gets extra characters added to some queries or info from the backend somewhere. |
| [03:35:27] | PaulWay: | It's very bizarre. |
| [03:36:07] | PaulWay: | The other symptom is that it keeps defaulting back to the Terra theme no matter how many times I select any other theme. |
| [03:39:30] | clever: | if your getting non-numbers in the number-only date/time fields, then your DB is screwed |
| [03:39:40] | clever: | run repair table on every table (theres a script for it) |
| [03:40:13] | PaulWay: | OK. |
| [03:40:20] | PaulWay: | Yet my other front-end is working fine. |
| [03:40:45] | PaulWay: | I'm suspecting the current version on the newly-installed machine has some problem – maybe architecture (x86_64) specific. |
| [03:42:02] | PaulWay: | I'm using the mythweb interface to run the repair – all tables checked out OK beforehand. |
| [03:42:27] | PaulWay: | I wonder if I should try compiling from source. |
| [03:42:52] | PaulWay: | This is an Atom system – maybe there's something weird in the way the RPM package is compiled. |
| [03:42:53] | darkdrgn2k: | http://pastebin.ca/1859205 <- thats what i get when i try to play a recording |
| [03:43:27] | PaulWay: | darkdrgn2k: very odd. |
| [03:43:34] | PaulWay: | I've never seen that before. |
| [03:44:08] | darkdrgn2k: | same thing for my vidios |
| [03:44:16] | darkdrgn2k: | no log entry though |
| [03:45:47] | darkdrgn2k: | LOL |
| [03:45:48] | darkdrgn2k: | "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" |
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| [03:47:20] | darkdrgn2k: | last few lines before segfault <- http://pastebin.ca/1859207 |
| [03:47:39] | darkdrgn2k: | then segfault |
| [03:47:55] | wagnerrp: | you have the core dump? |
| [03:48:04] | darkdrgn2k: | i think so |
| [03:48:23] | wagnerrp: | a traceback from a coredump is far more worthwhile than the logs |
| [03:48:47] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm |
| [03:48:50] | darkdrgn2k: | dam where does the core get dumped |
| [03:49:07] | darkdrgn2k: | i get "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" |
| [03:49:07] | wagnerrp: | in the current directory |
| [03:49:10] | darkdrgn2k: | but dont see a core file |
| [03:49:20] | darkdrgn2k: | (i have write perm) |
| [03:49:27] | jamesd_laptop: | find / -name 'core*' |
| [03:50:28] | jamesd_laptop: | toss -type f .. so you dont get directories named core |
| [03:51:36] | darkdrgn2k: | @#$$#$ no core |
| [03:52:07] | darkdrgn2k: | if there a setting that prevents cores from being dropped? |
| [03:52:36] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [03:52:42] | wagnerrp: | the core file size limit |
| [03:52:49] | darkdrgn2k: | (intesting dmesg shoes mythfrontend[26191]: segfault at 1 ip 0000003291254f8c sp 00007fff4b92ed60 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.5.3[3291200000+231000]) |
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| [03:53:01] | wagnerrp: | http://www.akadia.com/services/ora_enable_core.html |
| [03:53:07] | clever: | normaly, it wont say (core dumped) if the core size limit is 0 |
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| [03:54:29] | darkdrgn2k: | yep |
| [03:54:32] | darkdrgn2k: | core was 0 |
| [03:56:09] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm still no core |
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| [03:57:49] | clever: | there is an option under /proc to tell it how to name the core files |
| [03:57:52] | clever: | and where to save them |
| [03:58:16] | clever: | ive rigged up every box in my house to dump to /media/mainlv/cores/mythfrontend.$pid.$hostname basicaly |
| [03:59:17] | clever: | echo '/media/mainlv/cores/core.%e.%p.%h' > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern |
| [03:59:59] | clever: | with this method, you never have to go hunting for the core files, they are always in the same place |
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| [04:00:38] | clever: | the dir itself is setup like /tmp, so anybody can write to it but only the true owner can edit/delete |
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| [04:00:54] | darkdrgn2k: | ok i got my core:) |
| [04:01:02] | darkdrgn2k: | thanx that helkpd |
| [04:01:14] | darkdrgn2k: | now how do i tarce |
| [04:01:26] | darkdrgn2k: | its been a while since i traced |
| [04:01:31] | clever: | assuming its mythfrontend, run 'gdb mythfrontend corefilename' |
| [04:01:38] | wagnerrp: | and then 'bt' |
| [04:01:56] | clever: | and pray debug symbols exist |
| [04:02:17] | darkdrgn2k: | hmm |
| [04:02:18] | darkdrgn2k: | BFD: Warning: /tmp/mythtv.mythfrontend.27306.mythSRV is truncated: expected core file size >= 334311424, found: 103411712. |
| [04:02:31] | darkdrgn2k: | anyway |
| [04:02:32] | Beirdo: | gdb -c core -se mythfrontend |
| [04:02:32] | darkdrgn2k: | Cannot access memory at address 0x7f3d047c0668 |
| [04:02:57] | Beirdo: | you may need full path on the mythfrontend |
| [04:02:59] | clever: | maybe the core file size limit was set too low or something else went wrong |
| [04:03:08] | darkdrgn2k: | unlimited |
| [04:03:35] | darkdrgn2k: | http://pastebin.com/MFydaqBy |
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| [04:04:46] | wagnerrp: | run out of disk space on the dump? |
| [04:04:59] | darkdrgn2k: | nop |
| [04:05:05] | darkdrgn2k: | 22% used |
| [04:05:13] | darkdrgn2k: | oh wait i thin i kniow |
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| [04:07:34] | darkdrgn2k: | ther we go |
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| [04:08:20] | darkdrgn2k: | Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. |
| [04:08:20] | darkdrgn2k: | #0 0x0000003291254f8c in QMutex::lock() () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4 |
| [04:08:44] | wagnerrp: | what is this crap? a single layer DVD? |
| [04:09:01] | darkdrgn2k: | ? |
| [04:09:02] | wagnerrp: | two of em |
| [04:09:26] | wagnerrp: | just ripping a couple dvds i found that had sat on my shelf for the last couple years |
| [04:09:34] | darkdrgn2k: | lol dam |
| [04:09:38] | clever is now known as clever` | |
| [04:10:21] | wagnerrp: | plus im intending to re-rip a number of older stuff |
| [04:10:37] | wagnerrp: | i was formerly satisfied with the quality when watching on a old CRT |
| [04:10:51] | wagnerrp: | but theres just too much visible blocking on a nice hdtv |
| [04:11:06] | darkdrgn2k: | http://sprunge.us/KOBT |
| [04:11:24] | PaulWay: | wagnerrp: what do you use to rip DVDs? |
| [04:11:36] | wagnerrp: | formerly used MEGUI |
| [04:11:40] | wagnerrp: | but thats windows-only |
| [04:11:44] | wagnerrp: | im looking for alternatives |
| [04:12:07] | clever`: | i use cpdvd, but that just rips the vob files and decrypts them |
| [04:12:18] | clever`: | purely lossless ripping |
| [04:12:27] | wagnerrp: | yeah, thats what im doing currently |
| [04:12:37] | PaulWay: | wagnerrp: I just used k9copy – seems pretty good. |
| [04:12:41] | wagnerrp: | just catting the VOBs into a single file |
| [04:12:56] | wagnerrp: | but im going to want to at least remux them |
| [04:13:01] | wagnerrp: | if im not re-encoding them |
| [04:13:52] | wagnerrp: | the program i use for playback on windows doesnt much like VOBs |
| [04:14:08] | edomeda: | should I hide or delete channels I don't want? I also don't want them in the schedule or listing, btw. |
| [04:14:10] | wagnerrp: | the calculated time length is wrong, so playback is buggy |
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| [04:14:21] | [R]: | edomeda: how can we tell you what you want to do |
| [04:14:24] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: just hide them, and remove any xmltvid they may have |
| [04:14:38] | wagnerrp: | that way if you ever rescan, it wont try to add them back in |
| [04:14:40] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, thanks. |
| [04:17:11] | wagnerrp: | hehe... whoever opened 'my cousin vinny' must have mangled the plastic liner getting the case open |
| [04:17:23] | wagnerrp: | the whole thing is cut off |
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| [04:19:43] | PaulWay: | Let's see if I can get the same problems again running in -v all mode. |
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| [04:45:01] | darkdrgn2k: | if any one cares i found the problem |
| [04:45:11] | darkdrgn2k: | when migrating from 22 to 23 make sure you remove old libs first! :) |
| [04:45:46] | [R]: | lol |
| [04:46:25] | wagnerrp: | generally the libs are in the same location, and the system automatically pulls the most recent version |
| [04:46:47] | wagnerrp: | did you go from a distro install to a source install? |
| [04:47:26] | clever: | darkdrgn2k: ive discovered 2–3 sets of old libs in my /lib/ before |
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| [04:49:30] | wagnerrp: | ooh, this is a nice one |
| [04:49:44] | wagnerrp: | 8 whole VOBs for the one movie |
| [04:50:18] | darkdrgn2k: | wagnerrp: no i always compiled from svn |
| [04:50:56] | clever: | darkdrgn2k: the 'proper' thing to do is 'make uninstall' before you svn update |
| [04:51:03] | clever: | to remove the old libs/bins first |
| [04:51:22] | clever: | but thats a pain because it completely borks the system until you finish compiling and reinstalling |
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| [04:52:47] | darkdrgn2k: | clever: didnt know there was an uninstall :-P good to know |
| [04:53:26] | darkdrgn2k: | anyway ftw http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8228 |
| [04:53:46] | clever`: | pretty much anything that has 'make install' has 'make uninstall' |
| [04:53:59] | clever`: | but it must be done from the same revision as what was installed |
| [04:54:03] | darkdrgn2k: | clever: honestly i never knew that... could of saved me hours!!! |
| [04:54:18] | clever`: | once my irc stops lagging, youll see what i do |
| [04:56:09] | clever: | myself, i'm using ./configure --prefix=/media/mainlv/root/8.04/ (for ubuntu 8.04, a diff dir for every distro) |
| [04:56:10] | clever: | with this latest update, i just renamed the entire dir before 'make install', so it was basicaly starting from scratch (empty /lib and /bin) |
| [04:57:00] | clever: | the only problem from using a custom --prefix, is that you have to update /etc/ld.so.conf and PATH everywhere that matters |
| [04:58:03] | mazda01: | trying to run simulation of jamu.py and I get this: ! Error: Jamu must be run on a MythTV backend. Local host (dell) is not a MythTV backend. I am running it on the master backend. in fact, i only have one backend. any thoughts. |
| [04:58:19] | PaulWay: | darkdrgn2k: hmmm – did you just get segfaults or were there other problems? |
| [04:58:37] | PaulWay: | I wonder if I might have some library incompatibility or adgering somewhere. |
| [05:04:21] | darkdrgn2k: | PaulWay: i'd get segfault when i tried to play a video |
| [05:04:42] | darkdrgn2k: | in QMutex::lock() () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4 |
| [05:06:02] | PaulWay: | No other signs of anything wrong? |
| [05:06:21] | darkdrgn2k: | PaulWay: asside from not being able to play recordings or videos... |
| [05:06:33] | darkdrgn2k: | PaulWay: i didnt play around with it to much but no |
| [05:06:35] | PaulWay: | er, yeah. |
| [05:06:38] | PaulWay: | :-) |
| [05:06:48] | PaulWay: | Just wondering if I was looking at the same problem. |
| [05:06:50] | PaulWay: | Probably not. |
| [05:06:55] | darkdrgn2k: | ? |
| [05:11:00] | PaulWay: | I get weird extra characters in a variety of settings and places – dates, ALSA output device, theme names, all sorts of stuff. |
| [05:11:10] | PaulWay: | Even the database schema version (I suspect). |
| [05:21:57] | clever: | PaulWay: 'select * froms settings where value = "DBSchemaVer";' |
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| [05:37:28] | clever: | http://privatepaste.com/22dac0e774 anybody have an idea for this segfault? |
| [05:45:03] | PaulWay: | clever: DBSchemaVer | 1244 | NULL |
| [05:45:07] | PaulWay: | Unsurprisingly. |
| [05:45:29] | PaulWay: | The problem is that some times that particular frontend thinks its version 12440. |
| [05:45:50] | clever: | wrong db within mysql, wrong mysql server, borked sql client libs |
| [05:47:39] | clever: | /media/mainlv/home/mythtv/.xsession: line 9: 11668 Segmentation fault (core dumped) mythfrontend |
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| [05:56:37] | mazda01: | trying to run simulation of jamu.py and I get this: ! Error: Jamu must be run on a MythTV backend. Local host (dell) is not a MythTV backend. I am running it on the master backend. in fact, i only have one backend. any thoughts. |
| [05:57:21] | PaulWay: | mazda01: so mythbackend --printsched works on that machine (just to test) |
| [05:57:41] | PaulWay: | Is it possible that jamu might not be connecting to the right machine? |
| [05:57:50] | PaulWay: | (I have no idea about jamu but can do troubleshooting) |
| [05:59:33] | mazda01: | PaulWay, yes |
| [06:00:05] | PaulWay: | Can you see anything in the mythbackend log when jamu starts up? |
| [06:01:14] | mazda01: | PaulWay, it's trying to connect to itself. im running it on host dell, and mythtv backend is hostname dell. error is: ! Warning – Failed to connect to backend at 192.168.0.5:6543. dell ip is 192.168.0.5 |
| [06:01:36] | PaulWay: | Sure. |
| [06:01:57] | PaulWay: | And do you see anything in the mythbackend log to say whether jamu actually connected or not? |
| [06:06:21] | mazda01: | nothing that I see of any interest |
| [06:14:09] | edomeda: | yikes, my BE is going crazy. [93932.742249] mythbackend[10384] general protection ip:7f369e1fc40a sp:7fff1cda5a90 error:0 in libc-2.10.1.so[7f369e185000+166000] |
| [06:16:51] | wagnerrp: | i still say thats failing hardware |
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| [06:21:37] | edomeda: | restarting mythtv-backend fixed it |
| [06:21:46] | edomeda: | if it was hardware, wouldn't the box need rebooting? |
| [06:22:35] | wagnerrp: | why would it? |
| [06:23:08] | edomeda: | thinking that the driver or hardware state was messed up, that's what I think of when you say hardware |
| [06:23:16] | wagnerrp: | no, i mean hardware |
| [06:23:19] | wagnerrp: | failing |
| [06:23:23] | edomeda: | mythtv was giving me an error that both my tuners were in use |
| [06:23:39] | wagnerrp: | not the drivers, or the firmware, or any form of software |
| [06:23:46] | wagnerrp: | i mean the actual silicon is going bad |
| [06:24:04] | edomeda: | oh, this hardware is less than a week old, lol |
| [06:24:14] | wagnerrp: | doesnt mean its not bad |
| [06:24:15] | edomeda: | built it on two days ago. :) |
| [06:24:49] | edomeda: | so you think that the tuner is bad? Or did you think something else was bad? |
| [06:25:04] | wagnerrp: | libc doesnt run on your tuner card |
| [06:25:31] | edomeda: | so cpu/ram? |
| [06:25:54] | wagnerrp: | or motherboard, if that contains your memory controller |
| [06:27:06] | edomeda: | well since the system is new I can't say it's known to be good, but has been running for the last 48 hours ok. I may try a memtest on it just in case |
| [06:27:26] | wagnerrp: | run a memtest, run some sort of burnin |
| [06:27:31] | wagnerrp: | compile something massive like firefox |
| [06:27:38] | wagnerrp: | or gcc |
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| [06:28:53] | edomeda: | fyi, just before the first error, I got: __ratelimit: 3 callbacks suppressed |
| [06:29:53] | edomeda: | then a bit later (20 or so errors) mythbackend[3921]: segfault at 911010a7e06 ip 00007f3ada91b40a sp 00007fff67699bd0 error 4 in libc-2.10.1.so[7f3ada8a4000+166000] |
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| [06:44:07] | clever: | wagnerrp: any reason why my backend would cease to auto-expire? |
| [06:45:59] | wagnerrp: | nope |
| [06:46:12] | edomeda: | have to say guys, I'm rather impressed. Got two HD (720p and 1080p) streams recording, watching a third 1080p on subchannel multiplex (think that is the correct term) and have one of the recording in a PIP, all on a dual tuner. Very cool |
| [06:46:15] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, ive never actually relied on autoexpire |
| [06:46:18] | clever: | i'll give -v file,idle a try and see what it looks like |
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| [06:50:15] | clever: | wagnerrp: not seeing anything odd yet in the logs, though it hasnt mentioned auto-expire at all yet |
| [06:50:26] | clever: | 2 of 3 drives are beyond the 5gig limit i had set |
| [06:51:36] | sphery: | clever: pretty sure the autoexpire breaks when a file is missing |
| [06:51:42] | sphery: | don't remember if that was fixed... |
| [06:51:54] | sphery: | i.e. you need to touch whatever file is missing |
| [06:52:01] | clever: | sphery: with my old version, it just spewed a warning once per restart and then continued |
| [06:52:13] | sphery: | clever: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7692 |
| [06:52:26] | clever: | ah |
| [06:52:36] | sphery: | it was only on 0.22-fixes, but it got fixed, it seems |
| [06:52:54] | sphery: | or at least worked around |
| [06:52:54] | clever: | 20684M trunk |
| [06:53:02] | sphery: | 20K? |
| [06:53:06] | sphery: | then it's probably broken |
| [06:53:14] | sphery: | fixed in [23054] |
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| [06:53:30] | wagnerrp: | 20684? is that pre-qt4? |
| [06:53:34] | clever: | i just updated this yesterday... |
| [06:53:57] | clever: | MythTV Version : 20684M |
| [06:53:59] | clever: | Library API : 0.23.20100404–1 |
| [06:54:05] | sphery: | ummm |
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| [06:54:10] | wagnerrp: | thats a very old one |
| [06:54:19] | sphery: | and it shouldn't be Library API : 0.23.20100404–1 |
| [06:54:28] | sphery: | you have a broken working copy |
| [06:54:29] | wagnerrp: | were in the 24Ks now |
| [06:54:40] | sphery: | 24062 |
| [06:54:47] | clever: | svn info says its 24035 for the root of the src |
| [06:55:09] | sphery: | then you have a broken file system and your time stamps don't work |
| [06:55:12] | clever: | i'll track down whats going on |
| [06:55:20] | sphery: | meaning that your entire MythTV is probably borked beyond recognition |
| [06:55:24] | sphery: | which would explain all your segfaults |
| [06:55:29] | clever: | svnversion agrees and says 24035M |
| [06:55:41] | sphery: | you need to make distclean and rebuild |
| [06:56:04] | sphery: | and make sure you do it after reenabling file modification times |
| [06:56:05] | clever: | i'll give that a spin |
| [06:56:12] | clever: | mod times have always been on |
| [06:56:26] | clever: | i never turned them off |
| [06:56:30] | clever: | access times seem to be borked, but i dont need them much |
| [06:56:46] | sphery: | if they are, then you probably have a version.* that's way in the future |
| [06:56:49] | sphery: | (and possibly others) |
| [06:56:59] | clever: | everything is ntp'd together |
| [07:00:19] | clever: | if the makefiles and timestamps are all done properly, you should never have to distclean |
| [07:00:34] | clever: | but i dont think qmake gives you enough control to do it 'right' with such a large project |
| [07:01:26] | clever: | i did run into a couple link errors during compile and had to manualy clean libmythui |
| [07:01:32] | clever: | but i was trying to avoid cleaning the entire thing |
| [07:05:59] | sphery: | clever: out of curiosity, do you get anything with: find . -newermt 'now' -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l |
| [07:06:48] | clever: | yeah, but the dates given by ls are all old |
| [07:07:12] | clever: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 3595 2009-05–10 02:15 README |
| [07:07:26] | clever: | some of them arent even from this year |
| [07:07:36] | clever: | find: invalid predicate `-newermt' |
| [07:07:46] | sphery: | old find? |
| [07:07:53] | clever: | GNU find version 4.2.32 |
| [07:08:03] | sphery: | mine's 4.4.2 |
| [07:08:17] | clever: | let me try running it on gentoo |
| [07:08:56] | sphery: | I can get you an old-compat one in just a moment |
| [07:09:36] | clever: | -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 3595 May 10 2009 README |
| [07:09:57] | clever: | gentoo doesnt complain about that being invalid (find (GNU findutils) 4.4.0) but still reports old stuff |
| [07:10:00] | sphery: | touch now && find . -newer now -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l |
| [07:10:03] | sphery: | should work |
| [07:10:09] | sphery: | then rm now if you like |
| [07:11:15] | clever: | still reporting 2007 junk, lol |
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| [07:11:41] | sphery: | what about with ls -lc |
| [07:12:09] | clever: | identical files to what the find cmd found |
| [07:12:30] | clever: | let me pastebin a 'stat' output |
| [07:12:34] | sphery: | same times? |
| [07:12:45] | clever: | http://privatepaste.com/f9355e9f7c |
| [07:13:06] | clever: | stat is alot more clear, it lists every time and names them |
| [07:13:16] | sphery: | cool |
| [07:13:48] | clever: | it also seems the timezone for UPGRADING differs between the access stamp and the other stamps |
| [07:14:27] | sphery: | that's just because it was during DST |
| [07:14:31] | clever: | yeah |
| [07:14:48] | sphery: | don't know why it's keying off that file, though, since it's not newer than now |
| [07:15:09] | sphery: | but I have a feeling that's why your version isn't being properly updated |
| [07:15:16] | clever: | make itself will do similar checks |
| [07:15:17] | sphery: | something with file system weirdness |
| [07:15:21] | sphery: | yeah |
| [07:15:29] | clever: | it warns if any file is newer then now and if the clock skews during build and stuff |
| [07:15:41] | sphery: | we generate version.cpp and assume that since it's newer it will be recompiled |
| [07:15:43] | clever: | ive seen it spew ALOT before if the client was 1h in the past, relative to the server (NFS) |
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| [07:15:55] | clever: | since the stamps are generated server side, everything was mod'd 1h in the future |
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| [07:16:27] | sphery: | but I still say something is broken in your working copy |
| [07:16:39] | clever: | already done a distclean and rebuilding it now |
| [07:16:45] | sphery: | cool |
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| [07:20:55] | edomeda: | anyone know why my EIT listing on DVB-T would only be for the next hour on my tuner, but my TV can list a few days worth? (DVB-T as well) |
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| [07:22:52] | [R]: | there is "next" eit and long term eit |
| [07:22:56] | [R]: | maybe myth can't parse the long term |
| [07:22:58] | [R]: | or maybe a swetting is wrong |
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| [07:34:55] | edomeda: | I may have misunderstood the long term one, said something about pointing my dish, which I took to mean DVB-S only |
| [07:40:20] | edomeda: | Using NFS mounted metadata is a bit laggy for me, anyone else tried something like local fanart/etc on the FE that is rsynced to the BE? |
| [07:40:48] | [R]: | why not just use storage groups? |
| [07:41:02] | wagnerrp: | hes got ISOs |
| [07:41:10] | wagnerrp: | laggy? |
| [07:41:49] | [R]: | he saaid fanart |
| [07:41:57] | [R]: | you can storage group that w/o stoarge grouping the content |
| [07:41:58] | [R]: | can't you? |
| [07:42:03] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [07:42:14] | wagnerrp: | local content gets local fanart |
| [07:42:24] | [R]: | oh, weird |
| [07:42:48] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: your fanart is already stored locally |
| [07:45:03] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, well I changed it to NFS so all my FE would have it |
| [07:45:26] | wagnerrp: | im saying your fanart is already stored on the local hard drive |
| [07:45:27] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, FE don't share it do they? |
| [07:45:33] | wagnerrp: | there would be no purpose to using rsync |
| [07:45:46] | edomeda: | I changed the path to an NFS mounted share |
| [07:46:03] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [07:46:12] | edomeda: | I wanted all of my FE to have the same fanart without having to download it each time. |
| [07:46:15] | wagnerrp: | that NFS share is accessed once |
| [07:46:22] | wagnerrp: | at which point it gets scaled to fit your theme |
| [07:46:26] | edomeda: | ah, so the lag is something else then |
| [07:46:26] | wagnerrp: | and stored in a local cache |
| [07:46:48] | wagnerrp: | so long as you do not resize your theme, or change themes, it will remain there |
| [07:46:55] | wagnerrp: | and will always pull from there rather than nfs |
| [07:47:16] | edomeda: | I've only got about 15 videos with fanart/covers and it was a bit laggy, but I didn't realize that it keeps a local copy on first display |
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| [07:51:31] | kormoc: | Anyone build a hdpvr lirc driver from a vanilla kernel? |
| [07:52:18] | [R]: | kormoc: i used to |
| [07:52:28] | [R]: | but when i switched to firewire i found it more convient not to since i dintd need it anymore |
| [07:52:40] | clever: | wagnerrp: ok, installing the newly compiled mythtv |
| [07:55:08] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: need something to store an ipad in? http://gizmodo.com/5513589/ |
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| [07:55:27] | [R]: | have you seen the video of the hooligans smashing an ipad? |
| [07:55:58] | kormoc: | [R]: Did you use patches from somewhere to enable it? |
| [07:56:15] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: Ha! I don't plan on getting a ipad, but that's awesome :) |
| [07:56:30] | [R]: | kormoc: jarod posted patches... this was in the 2.6.30 timeframe |
| [07:56:52] | kormoc: | [R]: sadly the one I needed appears to be blank :( |
| [07:56:55] | [R]: | kormoc: there was also a time where i was d/ling the fedora srpm |
| [07:57:02] | [R]: | and lifting the patches from that |
| [07:57:11] | kormoc: | that sounds painful |
| [07:57:16] | [R]: | not really |
| [07:57:25] | [R]: | an srpm is just a compressed cpio archive |
| [07:57:28] | [R]: | with all the .patch files |
| [07:57:39] | kormoc: | ahh |
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| [07:57:54] | kormoc: | so you patched the kernel and the kernel build the lirc module then? |
| [07:58:01] | kormoc: | or did you have to patch both? |
| [07:58:20] | [R]: | i patched the kernel for the hdpvr driver |
| [07:58:22] | [R]: | no |
| [07:58:28] | [R]: | i built them both externally |
| [07:58:49] | kormoc: | Ahh, I'm using the hdpvr driver in the kernel |
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| [07:58:53] | klk: | so i just got a new hard drive and installed fedora 12 on it. my old drive had fedora 7 and myth .20.2 |
| [07:59:07] | klk: | can i just copy the contents of /var/lib/mysql over? |
| [07:59:20] | [R]: | kormoc: well in that case you can just patch the kernel with the fedroa patch directly |
| [07:59:41] | wagnerrp: | klk: absolutely not |
| [08:00:11] | wagnerrp: | you need to perform a mysql dump |
| [08:00:18] | wagnerrp: | and then insert that into the new database |
| [08:00:41] | klk: | i figured that would be too easy |
| [08:01:23] | wagnerrp: | you can try |
| [08:01:35] | wagnerrp: | and if the previous and current mysql versions are close enough |
| [08:01:36] | wagnerrp: | it may work |
| [08:01:43] | wagnerrp: | but chances are it wont |
| [08:01:52] | kormoc: | [R]: that might do the trick, thanks |
| [08:02:09] | wagnerrp: | especially considering you're five major revisions away from your previous install |
| [08:02:45] | klk: | when i started mysql the first time it gave me a few errors, but i ran mysql_upgrade and that seemed to fix everything |
| [08:03:05] | klk: | h0rts |
| [08:03:08] | klk: | oops |
| [08:03:28] | wagnerrp: | dont know anything of mysql-upgrade |
| [08:03:51] | klk: | i checked /var/log/mysql, it had a few errors and suggested running that |
| [08:04:14] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so now I just have to figure out how to deal with (especially non-script) contrib that has multiple files (like some of the C-language channel changers--see dct-channel--and the tkremote) |
| [08:04:41] | sphery: | would be nice if mediawiki has some sort of file upload/download for non-media files |
| [08:05:09] | wagnerrp: | sphery: it does... you just have to adjust the blacklist |
| [08:05:59] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I think mysql_upgrade is a script that's meant to upgrade binary data files when you change versions... It's the dangerous approach compared to doing a proper SQL-based backup/restore. |
| [08:06:07] | sphery: | it's distributed with mysql |
| [08:06:19] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [08:06:48] | sphery: | ok, well, I don't know whether we should allow .c/.h/Makefile/... |
| [08:06:56] | sphery: | or .tar.gz or whatever |
| [08:06:59] | sphery: | as it could easily be abused |
| [08:08:18] | clever: | Makefiles could be the worst |
| [08:08:33] | sphery: | yeah, tab/space are critical in those |
| [08:08:44] | sphery: | so we'd probably need to do tar.gz or something |
| [08:08:46] | clever: | i'm thinking more along the lines that you 'sudo make install' alot |
| [08:08:58] | clever: | all it takes is a single rm -rf / and it will bork your whole system |
| [08:09:12] | sphery: | oh |
| [08:09:17] | clever: | .c files are harder to abuse since the compiled output rarely gets ran as root |
| [08:09:38] | sphery: | still can rm everything in your home |
| [08:09:48] | clever: | yeah |
| [08:10:07] | sphery: | but yeah, due diligence is required when using any contrib script |
| [08:10:14] | sphery: | whether in SVN or wiki |
| [08:11:34] | clever: | that reminds me, i should check the svn output more closely, lindoro might have a [[ `hostname` == "clever" ]] && rm -rv / in there:P |
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| [08:21:48] | clever: | wagnerrp: where did the Iulius theme go? |
| [08:22:00] | clever: | i dont see it in myththemes anymor |
| [08:22:05] | wagnerrp: | where have you been the past 6 months? |
| [08:22:20] | clever: | it hasnt been updated for mythui? |
| [08:22:38] | clever: | ive been on revision 20k for a while:P |
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| [08:31:57] | clever: | wagnerrp: most of my themes are failing with 'Failed to query buttonlist state: selectedactive' and the active button is invisible |
| [08:31:58] | clever: | trying to find one that looks good and actualy works |
| [08:35:13] | clever: | wagnerrp: i think i also found part of the compile problem, the clock is off by 3 seconds |
| [08:35:41] | wagnerrp: | that will just produce warnings, and then only if you managed to get files from before the current time |
| [08:36:06] | clever: | it might fail to rebuild something that depends on a file it just rebuilt |
| [08:36:27] | clever: | and i didnt give make an extra 5 pases to make sure it got everything (the first time) |
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| [09:07:49] | clever: | wagnerrp: the recompile doesnt appear to have stopped my segfaults in the pbb |
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| [12:54:48] | mugginz: | When using multiple tuners with one recording and wanting to change to a diffent channel, myth doesn't seem to want to auto change to the other tuner. Is there an option to make this happen? |
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| [15:44:53] | wagnerrp: | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/560634 |
| [15:45:06] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: where's the code to auto-delete rmvb on sight? |
| [15:48:11] | ** wagnerrp will put a patch on trac if desired ** | |
| [15:51:52] | jarle: | Is it possible to change the logging level of a running mythbackend, or will it need to be restarted? |
| [15:52:22] | wagnerrp: | '--setverbose <level>' |
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| [16:02:11] | jarle: | wagnerrp: this will change a running instance of the backend? |
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| [16:04:14] | wagnerrp: | thats what it claims in '--help' |
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| [16:05:11] | jarle: | wagnerrp: oki, thnx... |
| [16:07:43] | jarle: | wagnerrp: seemed to work just fine.. |
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| [16:10:13] | PsychoI3oy: | I hate Comcast |
| [16:10:36] | PsychoI3oy: | that being said, I'm currently beating my head against lirc |
| [16:11:12] | PsychoI3oy: | i can send channel change commands as root and they work but the mythtv user gets "irsend: could not connect to socket" "irsend: Permission denied" |
| [16:11:26] | wagnerrp: | sounds like file permissions on the device node |
| [16:11:46] | PsychoI3oy: | so.... is there a way to make lircd start with /var/run/lirc/lircd as owned by 'video' or something? |
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| [16:11:54] | PsychoI3oy: | so... udev rules? |
| [16:12:01] | PsychoI3oy: | googling the problem is hopeless |
| [16:12:05] | wagnerrp: | i thought lircd was for receiving only |
| [16:12:15] | PsychoI3oy: | no, it handles blasting too |
| [16:12:16] | wagnerrp: | and for transmission, you hit the device directly |
| [16:12:20] | PsychoI3oy: | oh |
| [16:12:36] | ** wagnerrp is completely ignorant and has never done so ** | |
| [16:12:37] | PsychoI3oy: | well irsend is part of the lirc stuff |
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| [16:12:41] | PsychoI3oy: | fair enough |
| [16:12:43] | PsychoI3oy: | me either |
| [16:12:47] | PsychoI3oy: | see above about hating comcast |
| [16:13:20] | PsychoI3oy: | worst part is that the digital converter box appears to block the normally clear QAM stuff including my local HD channels |
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| [16:13:59] | PsychoI3oy: | once I get ir blasting working I'mma see if I can hook the cable box to the composite input on the pchdtv5500 and use my antenna on the rf |
| [16:14:12] | PsychoI3oy: | but one problem at a time |
| [16:27:39] | PsychoI3oy: | well.... it was sending as root.... |
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| [16:30:42] | wagnerrp: | PsychoI3oy: not exactly |
| [16:30:54] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt block them, it just outright cant decode them |
| [16:31:04] | wagnerrp: | that box has a hardware decoder only capable of standard definition |
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| [16:31:09] | PsychoI3oy: | right |
| [16:31:14] | PsychoI3oy: | but it doesn't pass them through |
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| [16:31:30] | PsychoI3oy: | for the atsc tuner on my card to grab |
| [16:31:34] | wagnerrp: | how could it? |
| [16:31:47] | wagnerrp: | that would require an atsc modulator |
| [16:31:47] | PsychoI3oy: | i dunno |
| [16:31:53] | PsychoI3oy: | ah |
| [16:32:12] | wagnerrp: | or at least some VERY complex circuitry to perform the frequency shift |
| [16:32:14] | PsychoI3oy: | guess i'm thinking of it letting analog through |
| [16:32:20] | PsychoI3oy: | not that I'm sure if it does that |
| [16:32:29] | wagnerrp: | there is no analog to let through |
| [16:32:34] | wagnerrp: | thats the point of the DTAs |
| [16:32:42] | PsychoI3oy: | yeah |
| [16:35:32] | mugginz: | I'm using multiple tuners. While one is recording and I try to change to a diffent channel, myth doesn't seem to want to auto change to the other tuner, I have to manually swap inputs. Is there an option to make this automatically happen? |
| [16:36:09] | wagnerrp: | there is an option to browse across multiple sources, i dont recall what it is off hand |
| [16:36:22] | mugginz: | Cool. I'll go lookin. :) |
| [16:36:23] | wagnerrp: | but that only affects the channel up/down |
| [16:36:36] | wagnerrp: | if you type in the number directly, or use the EPG to select it |
| [16:36:43] | wagnerrp: | it should switch automatically |
| [16:36:51] | mugginz: | When using tyhe EPG it would refuse to change |
| [16:40:56] | dan4dm: | ok i have a similar question. when we're watching live and a recording wants to start on another channel, myth gives us options (e.g. change channel) – but often it seems to us that the other tuner is free and should be able to take it no problem. is there a reason myth (0.22) would not do that (e.g. tuner is chosen in advance by the scheduler)? |
| [16:41:20] | PsychoI3oy: | chmod 666 /var/run/lirc/lircd |
| [16:41:27] | PsychoI3oy: | right from the lirc docs |
| [16:41:28] | PsychoI3oy: | imagine that |
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| [16:45:27] | pelandrit: | what's up folks? |
| [16:46:42] | pelandrit: | i have a weird trouble with recordings in mythbuntu 9.10, when i make recordings from the "program recordings" menu then the recordings only appear inside "old recordings" menu and i can't watch it from mythtv althought the files really are inside /var/live/mythtv/recordings. |
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| [16:48:10] | pelandrit: | I tried to fix it running mythfilldatabase but everything still the same, any idea how to fix it? |
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| [16:55:14] | Jester-Droid: | hey guys, anyone have any idea of how to get a pda to control frontends by what room ur in automatically? |
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| [16:58:41] | tgm4883: | Jester-Droid, you could set up an RFID system and scan yourself when you enter each room |
| [16:59:12] | Jester-Droid: | thats what i thought too |
| [16:59:41] | tgm4883: | you could use bluetooth, but likely that wont work as well as you would like as the range is too large |
| [16:59:57] | Jester-Droid: | yeah.. hmm |
| [17:00:18] | dan4dm: | dan4dm: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . _for_live_TV |
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| [17:00:22] | tgm4883: | you would need something with low range (pretty low) |
| [17:00:50] | tgm4883: | or you could have your PDA control it via IR |
| [17:01:01] | tgm4883: | but I don't think that is what you are trying to accomplish |
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| [17:02:55] | mugginz: | dan4dm: Has problems though when you have composite inputs connected |
| [17:03:10] | Jester-Droid: | im not really sure how to approach it.. rf may b the way |
| [17:03:26] | dan4dm: | mugginz: thanks for the tip – we're just on DVB-T so ok |
| [17:04:21] | tgm4883: | Jester-Droid, it would have to be low range rf |
| [17:04:32] | Jester-Droid: | yeah i know.. |
| [17:04:36] | tgm4883: | maybe combined with something directional |
| [17:05:06] | tgm4883: | I mean, I can think of ways to do it, but it would be $$$ |
| [17:05:30] | wagnerrp: | pelandrit: see the response to your post on mythtvtalk |
| [17:07:35] | Jester-Droid: | yeah tru brb |
| [17:08:34] | wagnerrp: | Jester-Droid: linuxmce actually has some system set up to track you based off bluetooth |
| [17:08:43] | wagnerrp: | and migrate livetv sessions and other states accordingly |
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| [17:09:48] | pelandrit: | wagnerrp: thanks a lot, if was magic |
| [17:10:31] | pelandrit: | it* |
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| [17:11:51] | pelandrit: | i want to contribute, i can make translations, i see some menus still untranslated in spanish, where must i start to read? must i ask in #mythtv channel? |
| [17:12:18] | wagnerrp: | probably a good place to ask |
| [17:12:58] | wagnerrp: | looks like reynaldo usually handles the spanish translations |
| [17:13:04] | iamlindoro: | read the translations page on the wiki |
| [17:13:24] | iamlindoro: | If you have any questions, posting to the developers mailing list is a good way to get in touch with those doing translation who can help you |
| [17:13:29] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Translation |
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| [17:16:41] | pelandrit: | thanks |
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| [17:17:44] | gizmobay: | what is a virtual tv tuner? |
| [17:17:58] | wagnerrp: | with digital tuners |
| [17:18:09] | wagnerrp: | each physical channel may contain multiple subchannels |
| [17:18:17] | wagnerrp: | virtual tuners is mythtv's mechanism for handling this |
| [17:18:30] | wagnerrp: | allowing you to record multiple subchannels simultaneously on a single tuner |
| [17:19:35] | gizmobay: | so for example, some stations broadcast 4 signals over one frequency. What you're saying is I could record all four? |
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| [17:19:58] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [17:20:12] | wagnerrp: | some stations broadcast one signal on one frequency |
| [17:20:22] | wagnerrp: | but that signal/stream contains multiple independent audio and video streams |
| [17:20:44] | wagnerrp: | for instance a primary feed, and a weather feed |
| [17:21:04] | gizmobay: | How do you set it up? |
| [17:21:19] | wagnerrp: | i believe mythtv defaults to two tuners |
| [17:21:29] | wagnerrp: | you can change it in the card setup in mythtv-setup |
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| [17:22:33] | gizmobay: | Okay, I'll check it out |
| [17:23:04] | gizmobay: | Anyone know how this works? http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/snapstream . . . e-even-when/ |
| [17:23:23] | wagnerrp: | its a big hulking server, with 25 PVR-500s |
| [17:23:36] | gizmobay: | okay that makes sense |
| [17:24:28] | iamlindoro: | 5 servers, in fact |
| [17:24:55] | wagnerrp: | 5 tuners each, plus a separate headend, and video processor with HD-SDI output |
| [17:24:56] | iamlindoro: | Exactly as one could do with five myth backends (one master, four slaves) |
| [17:25:41] | wagnerrp: | slightly different configuration, since they have a tunerless master |
| [17:25:55] | AndyCap: | and no scheduler |
| [17:26:00] | iamlindoro: | I'd actually be somewhat surprised if there wasn't some Myth setup, somewhere, that outdoes that in terms of tuners |
| [17:26:09] | wagnerrp: | who needs a scheduler if you record everything all the time? |
| [17:26:17] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: exactly |
| [17:26:56] | wagnerrp: | and theyre recording everything intentionally, theyre not just trying to get one instance of each episode |
| [17:27:04] | wagnerrp: | they want ads and all |
| [17:27:36] | AndyCap: | only thing missing is speech and face recognition. probably for version 2.0. :P |
| [17:27:53] | AndyCap: | but you have CC on everything in the US? |
| [17:28:08] | wagnerrp: | most things people are going to watch |
| [17:28:11] | iamlindoro: | not everything, but most things |
| [17:28:26] | wagnerrp: | stuff like infomercials and shopping crap might not |
| [17:28:41] | AndyCap: | read a fascinating article about live captioning a couple of years ago. :) |
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| [17:36:58] | gizmobay: | why would you need multiple backends? I just have one. |
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| [17:38:05] | wagnerrp: | because you have 25 tuners, and your current PC only has 5 slots |
| [17:38:17] | gizmobay: | I see |
| [17:38:43] | jarle: | gizmobay: or you want another backend to help out comm-flagging recordings |
| [17:39:00] | wagnerrp: | jarle: then you run mythjobqueue |
| [17:39:02] | wagnerrp: | not mythbackend |
| [17:39:36] | gizmobay: | so the master will divvy up the task among multiple slave backends? |
| [17:39:47] | jarle: | wagnerrp: oh, wasn't aware of that |
| [17:39:48] | wagnerrp: | currently? no |
| [17:40:03] | wagnerrp: | the jobqueue is currently first-come first-served |
| [17:40:32] | wagnerrp: | the jobqueues just each independently grab whatever the next job is theyre allowed to run |
| [17:40:47] | wagnerrp: | so there is a (very slight) risk of a race condition |
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| [17:42:21] | wagnerrp: | speaking of which... |
| [17:43:00] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: im working on a rewrite of that, and one of the things im planning is instantaneous tasks |
| [17:43:07] | wagnerrp: | do you have any input on how you would want that to work? |
| [17:43:22] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Of the job queue? |
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| [17:44:10] | wagnerrp: | since mythjobqueue currently doesnt have the backend protocol |
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| [17:44:29] | wagnerrp: | im going to adjust operation so that the slave queues will only run jobs listed as to run on that host |
| [17:44:37] | wagnerrp: | and then have the MBE delegate jobs |
| [17:44:39] | iamlindoro: | I don't have a lot of thoughts, to be honest-- only things I've ever really desired out of the job queue would be job reordering/user friendly canceling/etc. |
| [17:44:53] | wagnerrp: | instantaneous jobs would get API and protocol calls to run system commands |
| [17:45:01] | wagnerrp: | and if they ran for more than a few seconds |
| [17:45:11] | wagnerrp: | it would preempt one of the jobs already in the jobqueue |
| [17:45:21] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Hmm, let me think about it, nothing immediately springs to mind but I had never considered it |
| [17:45:37] | wagnerrp: | this would be for stuff like the grabber scripts |
| [17:45:44] | wagnerrp: | you said you would like that to be moved onto the backend |
| [17:46:19] | iamlindoro: | I hadn't thought about using the job queue for the grabber scripts |
| [17:46:49] | iamlindoro: | But rather wrapping it in its own functions in libmythtv or libmyth and having custom protocol commands for it |
| [17:47:30] | wagnerrp: | well in this case, it wouldnt really have anything to do with the jobqueue |
| [17:47:43] | wagnerrp: | the only reason for including it is so that you can suspend currently running jobs |
| [17:47:53] | wagnerrp: | if an instantaneous job is going to take some time |
| [17:48:47] | iamlindoro: | I wonder about opening up the protocol to running system commands, though, seems sort of dangerous |
| [17:49:08] | wagnerrp: | it would only be allowed to run commands listed in a database table |
| [17:49:26] | iamlindoro: | ah, ok |
| [17:49:40] | wagnerrp: | which would also eliminate the current 4-job limit |
| [17:51:45] | wagnerrp: | i actually hadnt considered being able to alter the ordering og jobs |
| [17:51:58] | wagnerrp: | ... are autoincrement fields automatically required to be unique? |
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| [17:53:08] | iamlindoro: | I presume so but don't know |
| [17:53:50] | wagnerrp: | just thinking of having two autoincrement fields, one for the jobid, one for the execute order |
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| [18:03:27] | dserban: | is it feasible to encrypt a drive for media storage using myth? I guess I'd have to use a key file since there's no real feasible way to enter the passphrase. |
| [18:03:34] | dserban: | Has anyone done this successfully? |
| [18:04:10] | wagnerrp: | sure, but why would you want to? |
| [18:04:27] | dserban: | dirties :P |
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| [18:06:31] | wagnerrp: | the only way you could actually secure that is if you put mythvideo in browse mode, stored the content locally, and used something like a usb fab to decrypt it |
| [18:06:46] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, youre limited to the extents of mythtv's 'parental mode' |
| [18:07:00] | wagnerrp: | there are four levels, and a 4-digit pin |
| [18:07:46] | dserban: | I know about the parental modes, more worried about them being bypassed, though I probably give my kid more credit than necessary :). |
| [18:08:25] | iamlindoro: | If your kid is old enough to want to look at porn, he's likely also savvy enough to just open the file browser |
| [18:08:40] | iamlindoro: | /nautilus/what have you |
| [18:09:47] | wagnerrp: | dserban: no... you can bypass the parental mode in mythtv with a terminal and about 30 seconds |
| [18:10:06] | wagnerrp: | (if you know what youre doing of course) |
| [18:10:22] | dserban: | yep indeed, though it's not what I'm talking about. Though it applies either way. I'm going to go re-read what I know about the parental locks. |
| [18:10:42] | dserban: | Just re-drawing my "kid limited" fe's setup. |
| [18:11:08] | dserban: | rather, making the plan... grr too many irc convos going on at once. |
| [18:12:02] | dserban: | thanks, I'll skip the encrypted mount for now. |
| [18:12:45] | dustybin: | people who watch porn = low self esteem |
| [18:13:09] | dserban: | I watch natural born killers. What does that make me? |
| [18:13:17] | gizmobay: | Couldn't dserban use truecrypt and write a script to mount and dismount then he could add it to the menu |
| [18:13:22] | wagnerrp: | a jon malkovich fan? |
| [18:13:45] | gizmobay: | add it to the menu under setup where you need a pin to get to it |
| [18:13:59] | wagnerrp: | gizmobay: mythtv is not designed for transient content |
| [18:14:06] | wagnerrp: | hence the need for 'browse mode' in mythvideo |
| [18:15:04] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, Nobody asked for your opinion of their programming, quit perpetuating myths about British sexual repression |
| [18:15:42] | dustybin: | :o |
| [18:15:43] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: you know hes got pictures of Margaret Thatcher under his pillow |
| [18:15:53] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [18:15:53] | dustybin: | hahahahaaa |
| [18:15:56] | dustybin: | that is sick |
| [18:16:11] | AndyCap: | or british ex-PM's |
| [18:16:26] | AndyCap: | s/PM/MP/ |
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| [18:28:31] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: im wondering if it would be worth providing a storage group for commands |
| [18:28:47] | wagnerrp: | something to make it easier for plugins to upload their own stuff |
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| [18:29:04] | wagnerrp: | rather than requiring they be installed on the backend |
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| [18:49:11] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, FWIW the last patch on #7946 didn't compile (seems like it was cut and pasted code from somewhere that does its DB upgrade differently), this code does compile and seems to work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/412713/ |
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| [18:49:39] | iamlindoro: | If you'd like to test it and double check it, I'll commit it later |
| [18:51:09] | wagnerrp: | will do |
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| [18:55:14] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, I can't quite tell what http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7352 is looking for |
| [18:55:23] | iamlindoro: | If he wants flowplayer to resize, it's a FRWOP |
| [18:56:15] | iamlindoro: | and if he wants mythweb to rearrange around it, not sure what the opinion of that is |
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| [18:58:08] | ** kormoc peers ** | |
| [18:58:52] | kormoc: | ahh, yeah, he wants it to resize |
| [18:59:29] | kormoc: | basically our themes hardcode the size of the flowplayer window and he made it larger then that size is set to |
| [18:59:39] | jarle: | on my new mythbox (using the nvidia driver) I seem to be unable to disable dpms in xorg.conf? How do you guys disable dpms? |
| [19:00:03] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, So unsupported-ish? |
| [19:00:10] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: aye |
| [19:00:11] | wagnerrp: | .xinitrc |
| [19:00:23] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, cool, will close, thanks |
| [19:00:28] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: he can edit the css and make it larger if he wants, but we're not going to anytime soon |
| [19:00:38] | kormoc: | np, and thanks for the triage :) |
| [19:01:44] | iamlindoro: | no problem trying to see if it's possible to get tickets under 500 :) |
| [19:02:28] | wagnerrp: | almost there |
| [19:02:48] | wagnerrp: | just one more to go |
| [19:03:03] | iamlindoro: | It's getting more difficult now, there are definitely closeable tickets but a lot of them rely on intimate knowledge of certain parts |
| [19:03:14] | iamlindoro: | Hmm, mine shows 508 right now |
| [19:04:00] | wagnerrp: | roadmap shows 392 unknown, 99 on 0.24, 9 on 0.23 |
| [19:04:07] | wagnerrp: | 500 total |
| [19:04:14] | iamlindoro: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/report/12 |
| [19:04:22] | iamlindoro: | Active Tickets by ticket id (508 matches) |
| [19:04:35] | wagnerrp: | odd |
| [19:04:55] | iamlindoro: | probably leaves out the ones with a null release |
| [19:06:06] | iamlindoro: | yeah, 8 tickets with null release |
| [19:06:53] | wagnerrp: | yeah... 8 for milestone 'None' |
| [19:07:06] | wagnerrp: | beat me to it |
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| [19:11:14] | wagnerrp: | #7722? |
| [19:12:34] | Wicked: | hmm...im just noticed this in my frontend logs: http://pastebin.com/t5RffVTh |
| [19:13:08] | iamlindoro: | so you broke your database, you should fix that |
| [19:13:46] | Wicked: | nah id figure id just let it get worse |
| [19:14:00] | iamlindoro: | Always an option |
| [19:14:42] | Wicked: | asomething like http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Period . . . the_Database ? |
| [19:14:51] | Wicked: | or how exactly should i fix it? |
| [19:15:10] | wagnerrp: | search google on how to repair a crashed database |
| [19:15:15] | wagnerrp: | theres just a couple sql commands to run |
| [19:15:24] | wagnerrp: | do so with mythtv completely shut down |
| [19:15:26] | iamlindoro: | that script should do any repair, it's just a wrapper for mysqlcheck |
| [19:15:36] | Wicked: | myth related or just sql in general? |
| [19:15:50] | iamlindoro: | sql in general |
| [19:16:06] | iamlindoro: | mysqlcheck -uwhatever -p mythconverg |
| [19:16:19] | iamlindoro: | same command line arguments as mysql, essentially |
| [19:16:28] | Wicked: | ah ok |
| [19:17:26] | Wicked: | hmm. repair table sound right? http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/repair-table.html |
| [19:17:34] | Wicked: | i really dont want to fubar it further |
| [19:18:15] | iamlindoro: | just run the above command |
| [19:18:46] | Wicked: | oh. didnt even realize you gave me a valid command. thought you gave like a psudocommand |
| [19:18:46] | Wicked: | ;o |
| [19:18:52] | jarle: | Wicked: mysqlcheck is mysql's own tool for fixing corrupted db, the safest tool to run... |
| [19:18:59] | iamlindoro: | replace whatever with your mysql user |
| [19:19:00] | Wicked: | i see that now! :) |
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| [19:21:23] | Wicked: | hmm ok |
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| [19:21:29] | Wicked: | i ran it...but i dont think it fixed it |
| [19:21:39] | Wicked: | after running it a second time it still says: |
| [19:21:59] | Wicked: | http://pastebin.com/3n3yZK7W |
| [19:22:24] | iamlindoro: | You didn't shut down everything using the table as wagnerrp told you to |
| [19:22:34] | iamlindoro: | <wagnerrp> do so with mythtv completely shut down |
| [19:22:37] | Wicked: | i did. mythbackend is stoped |
| [19:22:45] | Wicked: | no frontends open |
| [19:22:51] | Wicked: | backend is stopped |
| [19:22:53] | wagnerrp: | and all frontend? and mythweb? jamu? |
| [19:23:06] | iamlindoro: | restart mysql if *everything* is really closed |
| [19:23:09] | iamlindoro: | then repair |
| [19:23:14] | Wicked: | no jamu |
| [19:23:26] | Wicked: | i do have mythweb...but.....how would i shut that down hehe |
| [19:24:29] | wagnerrp: | just dont use it for a couple seconds |
| [19:24:31] | Wicked: | i bet thats what it is..i was going to check for upcoming recordings earlier and checked mythweb's backend status page..and it didt load properly. just a blank page. |
| [19:24:48] | Wicked: | i havent used mythweb in about 20–25 mins |
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| [19:25:31] | Wicked: | and actually. i guess thats unrelated...because i checked mythweb to see if could reboot...due to updates...which i rebooted after that. |
| [19:28:43] | Wicked: | same thing...i restarted mysql and ti still doing the same error |
| [19:30:03] | Wicked: | doing a "show processlist" in mysql shows no clients connected |
| [19:30:15] | Wicked: | so no idea why its saying 2 clients are still connected |
| [19:30:46] | kormoc: | because it's corrupt |
| [19:30:59] | kormoc: | use the CLI mysqlrepair |
| [19:31:22] | Wicked: | i tried it |
| [19:31:26] | Wicked: | twice. |
| [19:31:30] | Wicked: | restarted mysql |
| [19:31:34] | Wicked: | tried it again |
| [19:31:39] | Wicked: | and im getting the same error |
| [19:32:26] | Wicked: | you are referring to "mysqlcheck" right kormoc ? |
| [19:32:33] | kormoc: | no |
| [19:32:49] | kormoc: | if I was referring to mysqlcheck I would have said so rather then mysqlrepair |
| [19:33:10] | Wicked: | well. i dont have a mysqlrepair.... |
| [19:33:17] | kormoc: | it ships with mysql |
| [19:33:19] | Wicked: | and people mentioned mysqlcheck to fix the db |
| [19:33:43] | kormoc: | if you don't have it, your distro is out to get you |
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| [19:34:01] | Wicked: | fedora12 does not seem to have it |
| [19:34:22] | Wicked: | yea. there is no "mysqlrepair" on this system |
| [19:35:04] | kormoc: | so run mysqlcheck -all-databases --repair |
| [19:36:11] | iamlindoro: | Yay, fixed a ticket nearly 6000 tickets old |
| [19:36:18] | kormoc: | (Might need --extended --auto-repair and --use-frm if it fails) |
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| [19:47:03] | Wicked: | thanks kormoc --repair seemed to fix it :) |
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| [20:03:24] | cesman: | anyone have issues w/ mplayer or huludesktop getting focus w/ 0.23? |
| [20:03:33] | cesman: | I have to alt tab to see either |
| [20:03:52] | wagnerrp: | what WM are you using? |
| [20:04:01] | cesman: | fluxbox |
| [20:04:28] | wagnerrp: | do you have it set up to bring new applications to the front? |
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| [20:04:51] | wagnerrp: | configure --> focus model |
| [20:04:55] | cesman: | I'll have to check |
| [20:05:01] | cesman: | I've never had to in the past |
| [20:05:02] | wagnerrp: | you want 'focus new windows' and 'auto raise' both checked |
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| [20:16:40] | cesman: | wagnerrp: both already checked |
| [20:16:59] | wagnerrp: | dont know what else would be causing issues |
| [20:18:10] | dustybin: | oh dear |
| [20:18:11] | dustybin: | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/04/08/minister . . . ing+Boing%29 |
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| [20:29:03] | jstenback: | anyone here know what the setting is to make the playback box show whether a recording has been watched or not? |
| [20:29:20] | jstenback: | I see it on two of my frontends, but not on the third |
| [20:29:22] | wagnerrp: | its up to the theme to show that information |
| [20:29:44] | jstenback: | same theme... |
| [20:29:55] | wagnerrp: | dont know then |
| [20:30:04] | jstenback: | k |
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| [20:34:18] | jstenback: | wagnerrp: you were right, I didn'g realize one fronted used mythcenter when the rest used mythcenter-wide, and changing that fixed the problem! |
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| [20:41:16] | cesman: | wagnerrp: thanks for the tip. I had to set maximize option. while it works on mbe, it doesn't on sbe however?!! |
| [20:41:33] | wagnerrp: | no idea |
| [20:42:06] | wagnerrp: | ive not used MFE as an external application loader in years |
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| [20:46:26] | ** iamlindoro makes more friends on the wiki ** | |
| [20:46:32] | christoph_: | I can't get mythtv to scan for channels |
| [20:46:41] | christoph_: | when I try to do a full scan I get "Error parsing parameters" |
| [20:46:49] | christoph_: | and when I try to import a channel list from w_scan I get "error parsing %1" |
| [20:47:03] | christoph_: | on ubuntu 9.10 with KNC TV Station (DVB-S) |
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| [20:49:29] | justinh: | christoph_: full scan isn't a good idea. best to use an initial transponder. find details for frequencies etc at lyngsat.org |
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| [20:50:52] | dustybin: | justinh: did you go to the gadget show |
| [20:50:57] | dustybin: | i was tempted to go |
| [20:51:16] | christoph_: | but I wonder why it won't import the channels.conf |
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| [20:59:11] | justinh: | dustybin: course I didn't. bunch of apple fanboy idiots, that shower |
| [20:59:41] | justinh: | oo which stupid £4000 gadget is best.. hmmm |
| [21:00:06] | justinh: | shoulda seen the HTPC roundup they did once. it was horrendous |
| [21:00:11] | Dibblah: | Sponsored by Dixons – Buy Our Overpriced tat, please! |
| [21:04:10] | wagnerrp: | theyre not fanboys, you just have a weak mind that cannot fathom the genius which is go^H^H Steve Jobs |
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| [21:05:29] | justinh: | whenever they review products & there's something by apple in the lineup, the apple product wins no matter what |
| [21:05:43] | justinh: | as for the reviews themselves.. pfft |
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| [21:08:44] | dustybin: | eeek im glad i didn't go |
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| [21:09:50] | nichos: | hi all, im having trouble manually adding a chan that the scan didn't pick up on. It goes to a black screen then says "irrecoverable recorder error" |
| [21:12:21] | nichos: | the channel is this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WTEV I put in 19 for the frequency and 47_1 for the chan. |
| [21:12:25] | nichos: | any help would be appreciated |
| [21:13:45] | wagnerrp: | you did not define the program id |
| [21:13:52] | wagnerrp: | so it doesnt know how to pull the channel out of the multiplex |
| [21:14:34] | nichos: | wagnerrp, I'm in the sql DB now, I don't see a program ID column |
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| [21:15:28] | wagnerrp: | mplexid and serviceid |
| [21:15:34] | wagnerrp: | you likely did not fill either |
| [21:15:47] | wagnerrp: | and you probably dont have a matching multiplex to use with mplexid |
| [21:15:59] | nichos: | sure enough:) |
| [21:16:52] | nichos: | im looking at the wiki but don't understand these values |
| [21:17:14] | wagnerrp: | youre not likely to find help in here beyond that, because few users (and few devs) ever go tinkering around in those tables |
| [21:17:23] | nichos: | "mplexid is the individual id number for the frequency entry. Ideally they will be in numerical sequence" |
| [21:17:40] | justinh: | messing about in the database is something we try to discourage here |
| [21:17:44] | wagnerrp: | no, mplexid is a cross reference to the dtv_multiplex table |
| [21:17:55] | wagnerrp: | justinh++ |
| [21:18:05] | nichos: | i didn't want to get in here either, but the chan wouldn't add any other way :/ |
| [21:18:42] | nichos: | should I drop this row and go about it another way? |
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| [21:20:08] | jolaren: | Hey guys. Just wanted to tip of the remote I've been using for a few weeks now (I'm totally in-love) and worked 99% oob in Mythbuntu tho not all buttons are HID.. Well here it is http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.14380 for 9usd |
| [21:20:13] | jolaren: | :P |
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| [21:28:19] | dustybin: | http://open.neurostechnology.com/content/Silent_HTPC |
| [21:29:08] | nichos: | is there a tutorial on adding chans manually? |
| [21:29:58] | wagnerrp: | oh if only we still had that one user on here would would frequently suggest that the mythtv channel scanner sucked |
| [21:30:06] | wagnerrp: | and the best course of action were to add them manually |
| [21:30:16] | wagnerrp: | and then call then retarded if they couldnt figure it out on their own |
| [21:30:30] | wagnerrp: | too bad he got banned |
| [21:30:37] | iamlindoro: | alas |
| [21:31:01] | nichos: | hmmm |
| [21:31:30] | nichos: | I didn't criticize anything, I asked for documentation :/ |
| [21:31:44] | wagnerrp: | were not criticizing anything |
| [21:31:49] | wagnerrp: | just a off handed comment |
| [21:31:58] | wagnerrp: | erm... not saying you did |
| [21:32:22] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: I suspect the slashdot summary is more informative than the php out of memory message? |
| [21:32:43] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: what? |
| [21:33:04] | AndyCap: | sorry. |
| [21:33:15] | AndyCap: | that was for dustybin |
| [21:33:32] | wagnerrp: | nichos: im just commenting that i could probably count on one hand the number of people who actually understand that set of tables and code |
| [21:33:38] | wagnerrp: | and im not one of them |
| [21:34:22] | nichos: | gotcha:) |
| [21:34:44] | nichos: | I understand the scanner not picking things up, but why would manually adding chans be arcaic? |
| [21:35:10] | wagnerrp: | analog channels are easy, you just need a channel and a frequency table |
| [21:35:14] | wagnerrp: | digital channels are... less so |
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| [21:38:18] | nichos: | well wagnerrp, thanks for your help |
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| [21:38:24] | nichos: | at least i know WHERE it's failing |
| [21:38:29] | nichos: | i'll tr and go from there |
| [21:39:09] | wagnerrp: | at one point i tried to put together an external scanner using the information off my HDHR |
| [21:39:30] | wagnerrp: | something i could run from the command line on a cron, and take care of any channel shuffling done by my cableco |
| [21:39:38] | wagnerrp: | everything looked right |
| [21:39:42] | wagnerrp: | but it inexplicably didnt work |
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| [21:41:19] | edomeda: | morning all |
| [21:49:32] | justdave: | hmm, in 0.23 I can't hit scan.php in MythWeb with wget or curl and have it actually work anymore :( It just dies complaining that I don't have storage groups enabled. |
| [21:50:16] | wagnerrp: | do you have storage groups enabled? |
| [21:50:21] | justdave: | of course, if MythVideo itself incorporated the feature I'm trying to emulate with it I wouldn't need this script that calls it. :) |
| [21:50:28] | justdave: | nope |
| [21:50:40] | justdave: | it's the wave of the future, so I ought to one of these days |
| [21:50:41] | wagnerrp: | then why are you asking why its not working? |
| [21:50:58] | wagnerrp: | what feature are you trying to emulate? |
| [21:51:09] | justdave: | well, I need a way to have a cron-job auto-add new files in MythVideo's directory |
| [21:51:32] | justdave: | so they can use the pretty stuff the database-backed gallery lets you do instead of having to use the file browser |
| [21:51:48] | wagnerrp: | you add stuff so often that you cannot simply run a scan when you enter mythvideo? |
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| [21:52:26] | justdave: | well, the scan in mythvideo adds stuff with raw filenames and doesn't generate a screenshot or accurately set the playback runtime |
| [21:52:28] | wagnerrp: | please see 'JAMU', it has been shipped with mythvideo since 0.22 |
| [21:52:41] | wagnerrp: | playback runtime? |
| [21:53:05] | wagnerrp: | only Internal is supported for storage groups |
| [21:53:07] | justdave: | "Runtime: 24 minutes" etc |
| [21:53:12] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [21:53:28] | wagnerrp: | no, it populates that with data from the grabber |
| [21:53:34] | wagnerrp: | so it would actually be 30 minutes |
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| [21:57:06] | justdave: | hmm, okay, so instead of this cron job that kicked off the scanner and then picked up the pieces, I should really write a custom grabber that sets up the data |
| [21:57:21] | justdave: | all the stuff I'm doing is pulled out of the files themselves, it's not going online to look it up |
| [21:57:46] | justdave: | (because the data's all there in my case, it just needs to be told to mythvideo's database) |
| [21:58:11] | wagnerrp: | do you know python? |
| [21:58:20] | justdave: | yep |
| [21:58:54] | wagnerrp: | see http://mythtv.org/wiki/Myth_video_scan.py |
| [21:58:59] | justdave: | jamu looks like it'll help |
| [21:59:21] | wagnerrp: | it should be fairly simple to strip out the grabber calls, and add one to midentify |
| [21:59:48] | wagnerrp: | of course youre going to have to figure out the path to the file on your own |
| [22:00:15] | wagnerrp: | since the path used by storage groups is relative to the base of the storage group |
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| [22:02:31] | wagnerrp: | alternatively, you can set up a pipe, and use ftopen to open the remote file |
| [22:02:42] | justdave: | what I'm currently using is http://mythtv.org/wiki/Generatevideothumbs.pl with a wrapper around it that hits mythweb's scan.php first before calling it. |
| [22:02:47] | wagnerrp: | then pipe it into midentify, or ffmpeg, or whatever youre using |
| [22:03:51] | justdave: | (which worked great until my 0.23 upgrade) |
| [22:03:58] | justdave: | but such things are to be expected with upgrades. :) |
| [22:04:10] | wagnerrp: | from what i understand, the storage group scan in mythweb is broken anyway |
| [22:04:14] | justdave: | what I get for living on the (almost) cutting edge :) |
| [22:04:17] | wagnerrp: | its not populating some field properly |
| [22:04:22] | wagnerrp: | which causes other stuff to fail |
| [22:07:40] | justdave: | hmm, yeah, I think writing a custom grabber would make this all a lot cleaner in the long run. |
| [22:07:46] | justdave: | probably more likely to be forward portable. |
| [22:08:05] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo is not set up to allow that |
| [22:08:06] | justdave: | I should browse around a bit, been a while since I looked through the stuff on the wiki, someone's probably already done it :) |
| [22:08:23] | wagnerrp: | you can write custom grabbers |
| [22:08:38] | wagnerrp: | but it will not be easy to back up from the information mythvideo gives the grabber to the actual file |
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| [22:13:57] | wagnerrp: | basically, there is no easy way to do what you want when using storage groups, for the same reason ISO playback doesnt work and external players are being dropped |
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| [22:24:24] | mrec: | just out of curiousity does analog TV work with mythtv? |
| [22:24:33] | mrec: | I wonder all applications – except mythtv are working here |
| [22:24:40] | wagnerrp: | always has |
| [22:25:03] | mrec: | since 0.22 it doesn't work anymore here |
| [22:25:39] | mrec: | 0.21 was the last good release .. so I wonder what changed |
| [22:27:05] | wagnerrp: | cant help without logs, or at the very least something better than 'it doesnt work' |
| [22:27:46] | mrec: | http://pastebin.com/m5yRS5PN |
| [22:28:45] | wagnerrp: | that looks like a frontend log |
| [22:30:13] | iamlindoro: | which is to say, a backend log would be more helpful, along with what type of capture hardware you are using |
| [22:30:20] | iamlindoro: | backend logs from backend startup, please |
| [22:31:22] | mrec: | something seems to be totally weird |
| [22:31:30] | mrec: | when I start mythtv it sometimes kills my xserver |
| [22:31:45] | mrec: | now it messed up the gtk skin ... |
| [22:32:23] | iamlindoro: | Myth has no awareness (nor interface with) WM themes |
| [22:32:25] | Oleg_: | how do I disable local directory and use storage group directory instead? |
| [22:32:47] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: are you using 0.22 or 0.23? |
| [22:32:52] | Oleg_: | 0.23 |
| [22:33:04] | wagnerrp: | have you yet performed a scan under 0.23? |
| [22:33:18] | Oleg_: | scan for changes? yes |
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| [22:33:31] | wagnerrp: | and it should have taken some number of minutes to run, right? |
| [22:34:01] | wagnerrp: | if so, that means youve generated hashes for all your current content |
| [22:34:09] | wagnerrp: | meaning you can move it anywhere, and mythvideo will be able to find it |
| [22:34:22] | iamlindoro: | Hashing the first time is done in the Db update, not the scan |
| [22:34:26] | wagnerrp: | just remove the directory you have listed for videos in the mythvideo setup in mythfrontend |
| [22:34:32] | wagnerrp: | ah... nevermind that then |
| [22:34:42] | wagnerrp: | (the scan part) |
| [22:34:47] | iamlindoro: | Nah, you're still correct about the rest |
| [22:34:53] | wagnerrp: | go into mythtv-setup |
| [22:34:59] | wagnerrp: | in the storage group section |
| [22:35:08] | wagnerrp: | and add the folder into the Videos group |
| [22:35:15] | wagnerrp: | and optionally fill out the other images groups |
| [22:35:32] | Oleg_: | that's what I did |
| [22:35:34] | wagnerrp: | then restart the backend |
| [22:35:59] | Oleg_: | 2010-04–11 17:32:56.680 UPnpMedia: BuildMediaMap VIDEO scan starting in :/mnt/hdd2: |
| [22:35:59] | Oleg_: | 2010-04–11 17:32:57.500 UPnpMedia: BuildMediaMap Done. Found 1321 objects |
| [22:36:24] | Oleg_: | is it searching for files in a storage group directory, judging from this output? |
| [22:36:30] | wagnerrp: | you ran mythtv-setup on the machine running the backend, not the one running the frontend, right? |
| [22:36:45] | wagnerrp: | upnp has nothing to do with mythvideo, nor storage groups |
| [22:36:54] | wagnerrp: | it runs its own completely independent scan |
| [22:37:11] | wagnerrp: | and still uses the old pre-storage-groups database setting for the video path |
| [22:37:17] | mrec: | wagnerrp: http://sundtek.com/images/vivi.png |
| [22:37:19] | mrec: | using this driver |
| [22:37:48] | edomeda: | are all the settings in myth stored in mysql? So if wanted to test out a different antenna can I just backup the mythconverg db and then restore it later without losing anything? |
| [22:37:52] | mrec: | channelscan works, dequeueing frames seems to work too from the driver so there's some internal mess going on with mythtv it seems |
| [22:38:19] | mrec: | the device can be compared with a hauppauge HVR 900 or something like that |
| [22:39:19] | wagnerrp: | i dont understand what this picture is showing me |
| [22:39:31] | mrec: | I'll upload the mythtv log |
| [22:39:49] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: correct |
| [22:39:59] | wagnerrp: | the only thing stored outside the database, is how to access the database |
| [22:40:53] | Oleg_: | I don't understand |
| [22:41:09] | Oleg_: | it sees the storage group directory, but doesn't find any directories in it |
| [22:41:18] | Oleg_: | even though there are directories in it |
| [22:41:34] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, thanks again, for your help. :) |
| [22:42:32] | mrec: | http://85.10.198.106/mythbackend.log |
| [22:43:19] | mrec: | 2010-04–12 00:40:07.146 ProgramInfo(29106_20100112112126.mpg), Error: GetPlaybackURL: '29106_20100112112126.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found. |
| [22:44:02] | iamlindoro: | mrec, Can you truncate and restart the backend-- this is many, many restarts of the backend and like finding a needle in a haystack |
| [22:44:20] | mrec: | Error: Unknown type, recording width was 0 |
| [22:44:28] | iamlindoro: | not relevant |
| [22:44:28] | Oleg_: | MythVideo::ScanVideoDirectory Scanning Group (myth://Videos@oleg/mnt/hdd2/) |
| [22:44:29] | mrec: | iamlindoro: ya in a minute |
| [22:44:48] | iamlindoro: | mrec, also, you appear to be running .22, if you scanned channels under this release, that is quite likely your problem |
| [22:45:01] | iamlindoro: | you should upgrade to .23-fixes, remove your channels, scan, and then give it a try |
| [22:45:12] | Oleg_: | as I said, it doesn't find any directories with movies there |
| [22:45:17] | mrec: | iamlindoro: 2010-04–01 12:31:33.502 mythbackend version: branches/release-0-23-fixes [23820] www.mythtv.org |
| [22:45:29] | iamlindoro: | mrec, Heh, so back to my first point, impossible to parse this log ;) |
| [22:45:32] | mrec: | oh ya you're right there are alot old things in the log |
| [22:46:11] | iamlindoro: | Also, myth wants exclusive access to the device, so make sure the four things you had open in your screenshot are not running |
| [22:46:28] | iamlindoro: | that is, myth should have unrestricted access to the video dev node |
| [22:47:07] | mrec: | everything's closed here |
| [22:47:22] | mrec: | http://85.10.198.106/mythbackend.log |
| [22:48:00] | iamlindoro: | have you tested with another tuner device? |
| [22:48:12] | iamlindoro: | Myth has a habit of exposing driver bugs that no other program does |
| [22:48:18] | iamlindoro: | know that happened recently with the HVR-950 |
| [22:49:14] | iamlindoro: | Channel(/dev/video0) Error: InitPictureAttribute(brightness): failed to query controls. to me indicates an incorrect response/behavior in the driver |
| [22:49:46] | iamlindoro: | (or possibly, that we are doing something with the API that might not be quite right) |
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| [22:50:36] | mrec: | please note that 0.21 worked well |
| [22:50:48] | mrec: | 0.22 disabled tuning for analog tv |
| [22:50:58] | mrec: | now 0.23 works again with tuning but the rest fails |
| [22:51:09] | iamlindoro: | .22 did not disable analog tuning |
| [22:51:14] | iamlindoro: | it disabled analog *scanning* |
| [22:51:22] | iamlindoro: | analog tuning and playback has never stopped working |
| [22:51:28] | mrec: | actually that is what I meant :) |
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| [22:51:53] | iamlindoro: | OK, the question remains, can you test another tuner device? |
| [22:52:02] | iamlindoro: | ideally one that uses a different driver |
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| [22:56:39] | mrec: | ya I can |
| [22:57:07] | wagnerrp: | what was that screenshot you had pulled up previously? |
| [22:58:45] | mrec: | nogo same problem |
| [22:58:50] | mrec: | Hauppauge HVR900 |
| [22:59:20] | mrec: | the screenshot emulates a virtual tv tuner device |
| [22:59:37] | mrec: | http://sundtek.com/images/vivi.png |
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| [22:59:45] | Oleg_: | mythbackend for some reason searches for the settings defined in mythfrontend, instead of mythtv-setup |
| [22:59:46] | Oleg_: | why? |
| [22:59:47] | wagnerrp: | and youre trying to use a virtual tuner device with mythtv? |
| [23:00:04] | mrec: | for testing yes, but it doesn't work with a legacy device either |
| [23:00:21] | mrec: | it shows up the same error with the em28xx kerneldriver... |
| [23:00:22] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: stuff in mythtv-setup generally requires a restart of the backend, stuff in mythfrontend generally doesnt |
| [23:00:33] | mrec: | the virtual driver is entirely in userspace |
| [23:00:56] | Oleg_: | well, I restarted it many times and it still looks for the settings defined in mythfrontend |
| [23:01:10] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: what settings are those? |
| [23:01:21] | Oleg_: | UPnpMedia: BuildMediaMap – no VideoStartupDir set, skipping scan. |
| [23:01:30] | wagnerrp: | UPNP has nothing to do with mythvideo |
| [23:01:35] | Oleg_: | u sure? |
| [23:01:36] | wagnerrp: | i told you that already |
| [23:01:40] | wagnerrp: | absolutely |
| [23:01:50] | Oleg_: | then why it changes every time I change the setting in mythfrontend? |
| [23:01:55] | wagnerrp: | it uses the old VideoStartupDir setting set in the frontend |
| [23:02:02] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, can I turn on long term EIT (DishNET) for my tuners without rescanning my channels? |
| [23:02:07] | wagnerrp: | but it maintains its own independent list of video from mythvideo |
| [23:02:15] | wagnerrp: | it does not pull content from the mythvideo table |
| [23:02:23] | wagnerrp: | nor can it use content on storage groups |
| [23:02:32] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: never used EIT |
| [23:02:56] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, why? I use DVB-T freeview and we have a week long EIT here (New Zealand) |
| [23:03:16] | wagnerrp: | over here in the states, we get a couple hours worth, if were lucky |
| [23:03:34] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, oh, sorry, I miss read that as never USE, early |
| [23:03:38] | Oleg_: | really weird. why doesn't mythfrontend find any files or directories in the storage group directory for videos? |
| [23:04:00] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: your files are stored on your backend? |
| [23:04:10] | Oleg_: | what do you mean? |
| [23:04:17] | wagnerrp: | the machine that runs the backend |
| [23:04:22] | wagnerrp: | that machine contains those files? |
| [23:04:44] | Oleg_: | the files are on a mounted usb hard disk |
| [23:04:51] | wagnerrp: | connected to the backend? |
| [23:05:06] | Oleg_: | how can I make sure it's connected to the backend? |
| [23:05:20] | wagnerrp: | what machine runs your backend? |
| [23:05:42] | Oleg_: | what do you mean? the same machine that I am using for typing it |
| [23:05:57] | wagnerrp: | so your frontend and your backend are on the same computer? |
| [23:06:02] | Oleg_: | yes |
| [23:06:12] | wagnerrp: | which has the usb drive attached? |
| [23:06:17] | Oleg_: | yes |
| [23:06:28] | wagnerrp: | does the user that runs mythbackend have file permissions to that drive? |
| [23:06:45] | Oleg_: | well, I did chmod a+rwx /mnt/hdd2 |
| [23:07:43] | wagnerrp: | and you added /mnt/hdd2 to the Videos storage group in mythtv-setup? |
| [23:08:24] | Oleg_: | yes |
| [23:08:39] | wagnerrp: | and restarted the backend, and ran a scan in the frontend? |
| [23:08:59] | Oleg_: | scan in "watch videos"? |
| [23:09:04] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [23:09:10] | wagnerrp: | there is no automatic scan performend |
| [23:09:17] | wagnerrp: | you have to initiate it in mythvideo |
| [23:09:20] | wagnerrp: | just as before |
| [23:11:35] | Oleg_: | it crashed just now when I tried to do the scan |
| [23:11:51] | wagnerrp: | do you have a core dump file? |
| [23:12:18] | Oleg_: | core dump file? |
| [23:12:22] | Oleg_: | dunno whatcha mean |
| [23:12:40] | wagnerrp: | when you crash, segfault, your machine will dump the program core to aide in debugging |
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| [23:14:37] | Oleg_: | the last two lines of the output it produces when it crashes are these: |
| [23:14:39] | Oleg_: | 2010-04–11 18:12:42.129 MythVideo::ScanVideoDirectory Scanning Group (myth://Videos@oleg/mnt/hdd2/) |
| [23:14:40] | Oleg_: | Segmentation fault |
| [23:15:25] | wagnerrp: | there have been a handful of people complaining about such an issue lately |
| [23:15:32] | wagnerrp: | but none of them have been able to produce a core dump |
| [23:15:39] | wagnerrp: | and none of us have been able to reproduce the crash |
| [23:16:06] | wagnerrp: | run, 'ulimit -c unlimited', run the frontend again, and try to get it to crash |
| [23:19:53] | Oleg_: | I did it |
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| [23:23:06] | Oleg_: | and? |
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| [23:28:06] | Oleg_: | hello? |
| [23:42:51] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, seems I was a bit off, my week-long EIT info on my TV is coming from MHEG-5 EPG data. |
| [23:44:07] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, so I guess I need to figure out how to download the MHEG-5/EPG data that's on my DVB-T steams |
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| [23:57:25] | edomeda: | hum, mythtv already has MHEG for NZ, (f12), but how can I get that into the program schedule so I can use it to schedule recordings? |
| [23:57:59] | mzb: | edomeda: have you checked steve's info on mypvr? |
| [23:58:48] | edomeda: | mzb, nope, is mypvr a site? |
| [23:59:05] | mzb: | yes |
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