| Saturday, April 10th, 2010, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:37] | Beirdo: | ick |
| [00:00:44] | Beirdo: | it says we can't display it either |
| [00:00:45] | iamlindoro: | Meh, no strong feelings on it, just caused me concern so I figured I'd ask |
| [00:00:48] | iamlindoro: | ew |
| [00:00:54] | Beirdo: | so yah, I think you are on the money |
| [00:01:16] | Beirdo: | You may not modify, publish, transmit, display, participate in the transfer or sale, create derivative works, or in any way exploit, any of the content, in whole or in part. |
| [00:01:57] | Beirdo: | I think the one we'd be in violation of would definitely be "display" whether it's a derivative work or not |
| [00:02:08] | Beirdo: | bye bye weather maps |
| [00:02:12] | iamlindoro: | boo :( |
| [00:02:17] | Beirdo: | dang |
| [00:02:24] | iamlindoro: | Wonder who might be better about it |
| [00:02:41] | Beirdo: | I'll have to look at wunderground's weather maps to see if they are usable |
| [00:02:56] | awalls: | NOAA.gov ? |
| [00:03:11] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, NWS itself has some maps, but don't know about access from the API |
| [00:03:12] | awalls: | Taxpayer dollars after all |
| [00:03:13] | Beirdo: | awalls: that also could be a possibility |
| [00:03:21] | iamlindoro: | yeah, same thing |
| [00:03:33] | iamlindoro: | http://www.weather.gov/outlook_tab.php |
| [00:03:46] | iamlindoro: | And there are regional ones too |
| [00:03:59] | awalls: | And loops |
| [00:04:11] | awalls: | (at least at noaa.gov IIRC) |
| [00:04:39] | Beirdo: | so I would say I tend to agree that we are likely not within kosher for weather.com without their express permission |
| [00:05:04] | awalls: | Beirdo: according to NEC's uPD6122 datasheet 455 kHz / 12 = 38 kHz |
| [00:05:12] | awalls: | must be new math |
| [00:05:32] | Beirdo: | it's pretty dang close |
| [00:05:33] | iamlindoro: | Looks like the maps are't in the XML API, but they seems to be static so we should be able to figure out where those live |
| [00:05:46] | Beirdo: | 37916.666666 Hz |
| [00:05:59] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [00:06:22] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, So interestingly: http://www.weather.com/services/xmloap.html |
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| [00:06:28] | iamlindoro: | weather.com *does* now have an API |
| [00:06:37] | iamlindoro: | Don't knwo if maps might be part of it |
| [00:07:05] | Beirdo: | Hmmm |
| [00:07:38] | iamlindoro: | Sure would be nice |
| [00:07:45] | Beirdo: | I think that we should probably reject #8185, and also related to that ticket disable/remove weather.com scripts for now. |
| [00:07:45] | awalls: | I just like that they chose a common AM IF freq for the oscillator. Parts must be cheap. |
| [00:08:31] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, done |
| [00:09:12] | iamlindoro: | Beirdo, Ew, Weatehr.com API requires that you display *four* links |
| [00:09:30] | Beirdo: | yuck |
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| [00:11:40] | Beirdo: | did you open a new ticket for removal of weather.com stuff? |
| [00:12:02] | iamlindoro: | No, I haven't |
| [00:12:07] | iamlindoro: | Want I should? |
| [00:12:16] | sphery: | iamlindoro / Beirdo : re: #8185 , it was opened /right/ after http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/23733 of http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7989 went in |
| [00:12:20] | Beirdo: | Probably a good idea so we don't forget |
| [00:12:23] | sphery: | so expect some replies |
| [00:12:55] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [00:13:08] | Beirdo: | well, if we can't use weather.com, all those will need to disappear |
| [00:13:17] | sphery: | after all, now you're just being mean to the westerners |
| [00:13:33] | iamlindoro: | I think paul will understand, though |
| [00:13:46] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:13:50] | sphery: | yeah, I was under the impression that they weren't allowed, either |
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| [00:14:11] | Beirdo: | it's a shame, but we gotta behave. |
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| [00:14:21] | sphery: | I'm expecting the replies to be from the OP, not paul |
| [00:14:36] | Beirdo: | although I guess someone COULD probe weather.com to see if they deem it as acceptable |
| [00:14:51] | Beirdo: | I'd expect "no" as an answer though |
| [00:15:20] | sphery: | or no answer |
| [00:15:26] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [00:15:38] | Beirdo: | would be better to disable it... and THEN ask |
| [00:15:52] | Beirdo: | save a possible "cease and desist" letter |
| [00:16:12] | sphery: | we could just make mythweather into a "plugin" that opens a bookmark on your favorite weather site in MythBrowser :) |
| [00:16:23] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:16:30] | Beirdo: | now you're talking nonsense :) |
| [00:16:34] | Beirdo: | but I like that idea |
| [00:17:13] | Beirdo: | mythbrowser's based on what engine these days? |
| [00:17:52] | iamlindoro: | Qt Webkit |
| [00:18:05] | ** iamlindoro sort of wants weather to just be a widget ** | |
| [00:18:25] | Beirdo: | nice. that's related to which "normal" browser? |
| [00:18:28] | Beirdo: | any? |
| [00:18:41] | iamlindoro: | Safari |
| [00:18:46] | Beirdo: | ahh, right |
| [00:18:47] | Beirdo: | cool |
| [00:18:49] | iamlindoro: | Konqueror, probably |
| [00:19:06] | Beirdo: | if it's Safari-related, it should work OK, generally |
| [00:19:35] | Beirdo: | I like the idea of making mythweather present a list of bookmarks to hit or something, and use mythbrowser |
| [00:19:44] | Beirdo: | sure, it's not as... integrated |
| [00:19:52] | Beirdo: | but dang, no more scripts :) |
| [00:20:21] | Beirdo: | widgets would be nice too, but still ToS related |
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| [00:20:59] | Beirdo: | browser... not so much, if you can use it in Safari, you can use it on your TV in a customized version of Safari, basically |
| [00:21:12] | sphery: | Beirdo: Chrome |
| [00:21:28] | Beirdo: | Chrome uses WebKit too? |
| [00:21:31] | Beirdo: | heh. cool |
| [00:21:32] | sphery: | yeah |
| [00:21:43] | Beirdo: | it's my main browser these days |
| [00:21:52] | Beirdo: | and Safari/iPhone being secondary |
| [00:21:56] | sphery: | the one redeeming quality--if they're going to invent a new browser, at least they didn't invent a new rendering engine |
| [00:22:12] | Beirdo: | yeah. |
| [00:22:28] | Beirdo: | I like chrome though, it's a lot nicer on memory than firefox, usually |
| [00:22:46] | sphery: | the separate process thing is nice |
| [00:22:53] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [00:22:53] | sphery: | but then again, that's (now) FF4 |
| [00:23:23] | sphery: | I just don't care to use it because it's only Google open |
| [00:24:02] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:24:07] | Beirdo: | you silly boy |
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| [00:25:29] | Beirdo: | I hear ya though |
| [00:25:42] | Beirdo: | but it's nice to not have to use IE anymore ;) |
| [00:25:57] | Beirdo: | that was the "approved" browser at work |
| [00:26:01] | Beirdo: | idiots |
| [00:26:09] | sphery: | yeah... I've been lucky enough not to have to use Windows, so IE isn't an option |
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| [00:26:23] | sphery: | but I'll definitely agree Chrome is a better choice than IE |
| [00:26:34] | sphery: | and there /is/ a stable version of Chrome on Windows |
| [00:26:41] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [00:26:42] | Beirdo: | yeah |
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| [00:29:00] | sphery: | wonder how much of the V8 engine is going to make it back to Qt/webkit |
| [00:31:13] | iamlindoro: | As little as they are capable of sending |
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| [00:33:49] | sphery: | http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/03/04/li . . . -javascript/ |
| [00:33:56] | Cubber: | what is the best PCI tv capture card that can be easily purchased new today to use with mythtv under linux? |
| [00:34:00] | sphery: | looks like they're going their own way |
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| [00:34:20] | sphery: | Cubber: all depends on where you live/what TV standard you're trying to capture |
| [00:34:28] | sphery: | Cubber: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki |
| [00:34:37] | Cubber: | America, straight from the cable wire |
| [00:34:37] | sphery: | or we need more info |
| [00:34:57] | sphery: | analog or digital? |
| [00:35:10] | Cubber: | there are digital channels available on the wire |
| [00:35:31] | sphery: | well, for unencrypted digital, you can use any QAM-supporting digital capture card |
| [00:35:42] | sphery: | (look under ATSC devices on the wiki) |
| [00:35:52] | Cubber: | this is the card I am currently using, but I am getting alot of random issues with it, like no sound and MAILBOX errors in dmesg http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/AVerMedia_M150-D |
| [00:35:56] | sphery: | note that you can't get encrypted digital from your cable co |
| [00:36:18] | sphery: | you'd have to use a set-top box and analog capture--so the PVR-150/500 for SDTV or HD-PVR for HDTV |
| [00:36:35] | Cubber: | I have a normal flat screen tv that is just connected via the cable wire and it gets quite a few digital channels |
| [00:36:54] | Cubber: | oh yah and it gets hd as well on some of the channels |
| [00:37:09] | sphery: | so that's an analog SDTV capture card? |
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| [00:38:06] | Cubber: | I belive so it is an old card |
| [00:38:12] | Cubber: | an mpeg based card |
| [00:38:30] | sphery: | basically, the usual equivalent of that would be the Hauppauge PVR-150. If you want digital, you could get the HVR-1600, which is a single digital tuner and an analog encoder (basically can be used as a digital tuner or a PVR-150) |
| [00:38:59] | sphery: | there are lots of others--when it comes to digital capture, though, the different cards are all pretty good and not much difference |
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| [00:39:35] | Cubber: | can you still get the PVR-150's and whats the difference between them and the 350's |
| [00:39:38] | sphery: | best info is at http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/ , though |
| [00:39:40] | Cubber: | the issue with my card is the firmware |
| [00:39:48] | Cubber: | seems it is just not stable yet |
| [00:40:36] | sphery: | the 350 is a waste of money--it has an anachronistic TV out and MPEG-2 decoder for extremely-easy-to-decode-without-the-decoder MPEG-2 (i.e. only standard definition MPEG-2, as recorded by the PVR-350 or PVR-150) |
| [00:40:50] | sphery: | the PVR-150 is basically the encoder portion without the decoder |
| [00:41:08] | sphery: | you're better off decoding in software or getting something like an nvidia card with VDPAU support |
| [00:41:40] | sphery: | i.e. use a real video card (the PVR-350 would be used /instead/ of a video card for video output, so you lose all the capabilities of a real video card) |
| [00:41:52] | Cubber: | the system i use is an athalon-xp based machine, only has pci slots and I have an nvidia geforce 7800gt in it |
| [00:42:15] | Cubber: | alls I wanna do is record shows in mythtv |
| [00:42:20] | Cubber: | then play them back later |
| [00:42:25] | sphery: | the PVR-150 and PVR-500 can't be purchased new from Hauppauge, and only remaining-in-stock units can be sold new in the US (so you likely won't find any), but are easy to find on ebay |
| [00:42:35] | sphery: | but you can get the HVR-1600 new |
| [00:42:45] | Cubber: | I have an old bttv based framegrabber card in there for watching tv on the PC while the mpeg card is recording |
| [00:43:00] | sphery: | the Athlon XP system will likely not be able to do HDTV playback |
| [00:43:10] | sphery: | so you'll want SDTV |
| [00:43:12] | Cubber: | will the 1600 work for my application, direct from the wire? |
| [00:43:14] | sphery: | or upgrade your frontend |
| [00:43:25] | Cubber: | not an option to upgrade |
| [00:43:35] | Cubber: | just want what I have now without the bugs and headaches of the Avermedia card |
| [00:43:58] | sphery: | 1600 will give you unencrypted digital channels straight from the wire, and analog channels (either from the wire, if your cable co still has them, or from the output of a set-top box) |
| [00:44:06] | Cubber: | I stream to my xboxes running XBMC with the mythtv plugin, so HD content would stream to choppy anyway |
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| [00:44:30] | sphery: | yeah, xbox wouldn't be able to keep up with HDTV either |
| [00:44:56] | sphery: | if you do digital capture, though, you get what they give you--which, in today's US, tends to be a lot of HDTV |
| [00:45:18] | sphery: | with an analog encoder (PVR-150, PVR-500, or analog side of HVR-1600), you get SDTV |
| [00:45:23] | Cubber: | so I could still use the 1600 and record at lower levels right? |
| [00:45:38] | Cubber: | so the 1600 would do what I want it to and then some |
| [00:45:46] | sphery: | only the analog allows control (and for the 1600, that is always SDTV) |
| [00:46:07] | sphery: | it does what you want now, but could do digital if you switch in the future |
| [00:46:11] | sphery: | but you pay for the digital side, now |
| [00:46:14] | Cubber: | thats nice |
| [00:46:20] | Cubber: | and that is PCI not PCI express right?9$ |
| [00:46:22] | sphery: | a PVR-150 on ebay is $20-$30 including shipping |
| [00:46:31] | sphery: | an HVR-1600 could be $80+ |
| [00:46:37] | sphery: | and both are PCI |
| [00:47:03] | Cubber: | not a fan of ebay |
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| [00:47:21] | sphery: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1600 http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1600 |
| [00:47:28] | Cubber: | so the 1600 has full linux kernel support as well as mythtv support? |
| [00:47:43] | sphery: | mythtv only cares that it's V4L-supported |
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| [00:47:52] | sphery: | and it is |
| [00:47:57] | Cubber: | ok |
| [00:47:59] | sphery: | read the page, though |
| [00:48:02] | sphery: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1600 |
| [00:48:09] | Cubber: | yup just loaded it raeding now thanks |
| [00:48:25] | sphery: | yeah, they seem to be $85, $90, $100 depending on model |
| [00:48:34] | sphery: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp . . . ;x=0&y=0 |
| [00:49:02] | sphery: | PVR-150 is still in the $20 – $30 range on ebay |
| [00:49:24] | sphery: | such as http://cgi.ebay.com/Hauppauge-WinTV-PVR-150-P . . . em4cee3fc64a |
| [00:49:34] | sphery: | but I'm not recommending that seller or anything... just an example |
| [00:49:45] | sphery: | http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=m . . . l-Categories |
| [00:52:22] | Cubber: | Thanks for the info |
| [00:53:38] | sphery: | y/w |
| [00:55:12] | Cubber: | so the MCE and the regular version both are the same MCE just has extra ports, but should function the same as V4L cares? |
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| [01:07:43] | hipitihop: | when I rip dvd's it seems to automatically chose a title e.g. 4 of 5 ... how can I geta rip job to rip all titles as one video ? |
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| [01:10:42] | iamlindoro: | It chooses the longest title as the likely feature |
| [01:11:08] | iamlindoro: | you can rip as an ISO to get the whole DVD, but if you want to merge all the videos (which will be the feature, extras, etc) into a single video, you can't do that. |
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| [01:17:41] | Beirdo: | la la la... |
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| [01:17:48] | Beirdo: | I think my firmware is complete... |
| [01:18:23] | Beirdo: | of course, I need to simulate & debug... then make the schematics, make boards, build one, and play :) |
| [01:18:26] | Beirdo: | heh |
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| [01:21:37] | hipitihop: | iamlindoro, I see.. but ripping an iso is large I'm guessing, if I chose "perfect" or "good" I assume there is transcoding going on |
| [01:21:53] | iamlindoro: | Perfect is an ISO, good is transcoded |
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| [01:23:27] | hipitihop: | iamlindoro, so if perfect is an iso, then it is an iso of one title ? and the iso selection is the entire dvd ? |
| [01:23:46] | iamlindoro: | It's an ISO of the whole disk, regardless of what you choose |
| [01:25:56] | hipitihop: | iamlindoro, sorry my first attempt appeared to auto select title 4 of 5 and I used "perfect" however just playing back the dvd manually clearly showed the rip did not start at the beginning |
| [01:26:27] | hipitihop: | so I assumed it hd only ripped one title |
| [01:27:13] | hipitihop: | ok, one step back.. what is the typical size of a dvd iso ? |
| [01:27:36] | iamlindoro: | sorry, perfect is a vob of the single title |
| [01:27:52] | iamlindoro: | Haven't looked at the menu in a while |
| [01:28:42] | hipitihop: | and vob is transcoded ? |
| [01:29:41] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [01:31:52] | hipitihop: | so I have a choice of using "perfect" (vob) which is one title at a time and this will create seperate entries in my video menu/list or I can do ISO of the entire dvd |
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| [01:33:17] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [01:33:49] | hipitihop: | I don't mind the seperate titles but I would like to queue up recording of all titles and walk away... however it seems that if I select each title in the ripping menu, it only remembers "perfect" on teh last title selection shown, and all other switch to iso grrr |
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| [01:34:20] | hipitihop: | so what is the typical sice of a standard DVD as a complete ISO |
| [01:34:35] | hipitihop: | s/sice/size |
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| [01:35:50] | wagnerrp: | anywhere between 5 and 8GB |
| [01:36:24] | wagnerrp: | i just crashed... |
| [01:36:33] | wagnerrp: | havent had one of those on linux in a good while |
| [01:36:46] | wagnerrp: | halfway through the credits at the end of a movie |
| [01:36:55] | wagnerrp: | and the thing just seizes up |
| [01:36:58] | hipitihop: | which is not too different to standard def recording in myth for an hour or so |
| [01:37:42] | hipitihop: | so I may aswell use full iso rip as long as myth can play that |
| [01:37:52] | wagnerrp: | it currently cant over storage groups |
| [01:37:58] | wagnerrp: | and why would you want the full ISO? |
| [01:38:09] | wagnerrp: | do you frequently use the bonus features? |
| [01:38:15] | wagnerrp: | or do you just watch the movie |
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| [01:38:37] | hipitihop: | no don't use them... however an attempt this morning using "perfect" suggests that only a single title is recorded |
| [01:38:55] | wagnerrp: | full system crash, the last frame showed with flickering artifacts, and the audio looped over the last half second of audio.... |
| [01:39:07] | wagnerrp: | correct, a single title, generally the main title, otherwise known as the movie |
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| [01:39:30] | hipitihop: | I typically just watch the movie |
| [01:39:50] | wagnerrp: | the only time it should have problems is the rare occurrence of a 2-movie disk, or one with multiple angles |
| [01:39:51] | hipitihop: | so myth automatically selects the longest title, tyoically the movie |
| [01:40:42] | hipitihop: | the particular one I am experimenting with happens to be 2 disc and also multiple titles/segments/chapters |
| [01:41:01] | wagnerrp: | you have one movie spanned over two disks? |
| [01:41:34] | hipitihop: | so I wanted to queue up all titles, but it does not seem to remember the "perfect" selection once you switch to another title to select it |
| [01:42:15] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, ive never actually used the dvd rip/playback/burn capacity of mythtv |
| [01:42:33] | hipitihop: | sorry, to be clear... it is a dvd with a series on it and spans two discs |
| [01:42:44] | wagnerrp: | short series |
| [01:42:58] | hipitihop: | yep, it is called the ascent of money |
| [01:43:25] | Beirdo: | ahhh, beer |
| [01:43:25] | wagnerrp: | something like that, you may be better off just doing it manually |
| [01:43:48] | wagnerrp: | for 'perfect' quality, just cat together the sequences of VOB files on the DVD |
| [01:43:50] | hipitihop: | and as for iso and groups, I'm not aware of using groups but when I setup another front end in my bedroom then I will want to play back anything on the backend and you are suggesting iso will not worl |
| [01:44:15] | wagnerrp: | hipitihop: 'storage groups' allow mythvideo to stream content directly from the backend |
| [01:44:30] | hipitihop: | and that is the default on .22 afaik |
| [01:44:35] | wagnerrp: | if youre not using storage groups, you will have to set up your own solution to get the content to the remote frontend |
| [01:44:38] | wagnerrp: | typically NFS |
| [01:44:47] | hipitihop: | nope, want to use standard stuff |
| [01:44:59] | wagnerrp: | that is the advised method in 0.22, but there is no 'default |
| [01:45:16] | wagnerrp: | its just two different methods of setting up mythvideo |
| [01:45:39] | justdave: | is there a protocol change from 0.22 to 0.23? |
| [01:45:49] | mzb: | # mount myisodir /overhere |
| [01:45:50] | wagnerrp: | yeah, four of em |
| [01:45:50] | hipitihop: | anyway, when I get to that I ll sort it... so it seems I will have to do each title manually since there is a bug in ui and it does not remember the perfect setting |
| [01:46:11] | justdave: | so if I update any of my machines I need to update all of them? |
| [01:46:17] | wagnerrp: | justdave: as always |
| [01:46:45] | justdave: | (the package repo I've been following just picked up 0.23 and I did a double-take :) |
| [01:47:16] | wagnerrp: | not yet officially released, but its perfectly fine for a stable install |
| [01:47:37] | wagnerrp: | correction, six protocol bumps since 0.22 |
| [01:47:44] | wagnerrp: | from 50 to 56 |
| [01:47:54] | ** justdave sorta wonders why the maintainer didn't mention it on his blog yet ** | |
| [01:47:59] | wagnerrp: | and 10 schema bumps |
| [01:48:26] | justdave: | usually when he bumps the myth version he makes a blog post with any special instructions for upgrading (like if a db update script needs to be run on the backend or anything) |
| [01:48:49] | ** justdave is off to browse the wiki ** | |
| [01:49:13] | wagnerrp: | there is no db update script |
| [01:49:32] | wagnerrp: | for as long as i remember, schema updates have always been handled by the backend |
| [01:49:52] | justdave: | yeah, seems like it was for 0.22, it just did it the first time you ran it |
| [01:50:14] | wagnerrp: | and 0.21, and 0.20.2, and 0.20, and 0.19, and.... |
| [01:50:30] | justdave: | I could swear there was something I had to do for 0.21 -> 0.22 though. |
| [01:50:37] | justdave: | oh, storage groups, that's what it was |
| [01:50:53] | wagnerrp: | there was a switch from Latin-1 to UTF-8, that caused a lot of people database troubles |
| [01:51:10] | justdave: | because the way storage groups got done changed, that had to have the config double-checked after the upgrade |
| [01:51:49] | Beirdo: | 3616 bytes of firmware. wow. I even have a bit of space to spare ;) |
| [01:52:00] | wagnerrp: | mythtv did not do anything to switch from local files to storage groups |
| [01:52:05] | wagnerrp: | it was up to you to make that switch |
| [01:52:16] | justdave: | wagnerrp: right, that's what I'm remembering reading about with that upgrade |
| [01:52:33] | wagnerrp: | it was also not required to make the switch |
| [01:52:38] | justdave: | i.e. "if you want to take advantage of this you need to go fix it after you upgrade" |
| [01:52:39] | wagnerrp: | as local files still work just fine in 0.23 |
| [01:53:00] | wagnerrp: | not so much 'fix', as 'make this change' |
| [01:53:27] | justdave: | all my frontends have the videos directory nfs-mounted, so local storage works fine for me |
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| [01:58:37] | Beirdo: | oh... what the..... |
| [01:58:53] | Beirdo: | simulavr doesn't support the device I'm using!? |
| [02:01:33] | mzb: | which avr are you using? |
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| [02:02:27] | asymptote: | I have a general question about using an IR remote w/ mythtv |
| [02:02:40] | ** iamlindoro whistles softly ** | |
| [02:03:03] | iamlindoro: | Now that we're off to such a good start... |
| [02:03:05] | asymptote: | to where does the remote transmit? |
| [02:03:07] | asymptote: | oh look |
| [02:03:13] | asymptote: | look who it is |
| [02:03:16] | wagnerrp: | it transmits to a receiver |
| [02:03:19] | asymptote: | ok |
| [02:03:23] | asymptote: | so you need a separate part |
| [02:03:31] | asymptote: | I was curious if it somehow goes through the tv or something |
| [02:03:37] | wagnerrp: | generally you get when you purchase a remote designed for an HTPC |
| [02:03:44] | asymptote: | k |
| [02:03:50] | asymptote: | I figured so – just curious |
| [02:03:57] | wagnerrp: | there ARE mechanisms supposed to allow that |
| [02:04:13] | wagnerrp: | old proprietary mechanisms like Sony's S-Link |
| [02:04:13] | asymptote: | "allow that"... |
| [02:04:23] | mzb: | like the telepathic module ;) |
| [02:04:29] | wagnerrp: | which have given way to more open mechanisms like HDMI-CEC |
| [02:04:29] | asymptote: | what is this you speak of |
| [02:04:44] | asymptote: | I'll have to google this HDMI-CEC |
| [02:04:46] | wagnerrp: | but i dont think any of those are directly usable |
| [02:05:02] | asymptote: | but like an IR keyboard usually has a USN receiver you plug into the machine |
| [02:05:05] | wagnerrp: | at least i have only heard of one $100 in-line device to let you use CEC with a PC |
| [02:05:07] | asymptote: | same concept w/ the IR remote right |
| [02:05:23] | wagnerrp: | correct, you need some sort of IR receiver |
| [02:05:27] | asymptote: | k |
| [02:05:29] | asymptote: | understood |
| [02:05:38] | asymptote: | I was just curious |
| [02:05:54] | asymptote: | thanks for making me move to a diff channel |
| [02:06:01] | asymptote: | when you could have just answered it in the dev channel |
| [02:06:02] | iamlindoro: | Those are the rules |
| [02:06:07] | iamlindoro: | That's not how it works |
| [02:06:11] | asymptote: | it's not like 100's of people were talking |
| [02:06:14] | asymptote: | and I was interrupting |
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| [02:06:29] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter |
| [02:06:31] | asymptote: | k |
| [02:06:35] | iamlindoro: | Correct, we only discuss development matters in that channel to keep the backlog easy to read |
| [02:06:37] | wagnerrp: | the other channel was the wrong place to ask |
| [02:06:40] | wagnerrp: | this was the correct place |
| [02:06:47] | asymptote: | well in any event I appreciate you answering my questions |
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| [02:09:23] | iamlindoro: | what a dill-hole |
| [02:09:47] | wagnerrp: | im on the irc, ill do what i want |
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| [02:10:49] | mzb: | any *interesting* changes in trunk lately (or coming up) ?? |
| [02:11:04] | iamlindoro: | Many severe and break-y changes coming |
| [02:11:20] | iamlindoro: | as to interesting, guess it depends on your threshhold for interesting |
| [02:11:29] | GrahamIRC: | Is that dev talk in the users channel? ;-) |
| [02:11:32] | iamlindoro: | but as a trunk user, you already know what's happened lately since you've been reading -commits |
| [02:11:37] | sphery: | I should really stop using trunk for my main TV |
| [02:11:44] | sphery: | I just don't feel like buying a real TV stand |
| [02:11:47] | iamlindoro: | GrahamIRC, Since it's about his use of trunk, nope |
| [02:11:58] | GrahamIRC: | :-D |
| [02:12:01] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [02:12:01] | wagnerrp: | GrahamIRC: its discussion of whats going to happen, not how to actually implement it |
| [02:12:03] | mzb: | absolutely ... just wondered what you lot were excited about |
| [02:12:08] | GrahamIRC: | I was just being facetious |
| [02:12:18] | mzb: | (language translations don't float my boat) |
| [02:12:27] | iamlindoro: | MythUI OSD branch merge will probably occur in the coming weeks, major database changes, MythMusic rewrite |
| [02:12:44] | wagnerrp: | weeks? curse my move to -fixes... |
| [02:12:48] | mzb: | nice, thanks |
| [02:12:49] | sphery: | mzb: you just have to displace an amount of language translations whose weight is equivalent to that of your boat |
| [02:12:52] | GrahamIRC: | ooo what's gonna happen with mythmusic? |
| [02:12:59] | wagnerrp: | its going to be rewritten |
| [02:13:03] | Beirdo: | expecting some nuvexport and mythweather changes too hopefully |
| [02:13:03] | mzb: | sphery: hehe |
| [02:13:04] | wagnerrp: | ... to use the new mythui |
| [02:13:10] | GrahamIRC: | nice |
| [02:13:12] | Beirdo: | after I move |
| [02:13:25] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: when do you start? |
| [02:13:35] | Beirdo: | new job starts Apr 19 |
| [02:13:42] | Beirdo: | I move on Tuesday |
| [02:13:56] | Beirdo: | and go camping for the first weekend |
| [02:13:57] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [02:13:57] | wagnerrp: | sounds like a busy weekend |
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| [02:14:16] | Beirdo: | this weekend will be a bit busy, yeah |
| [02:14:51] | wagnerrp: | ugh... why is samba not refreshing... |
| [02:14:59] | wagnerrp: | i thought it reread the config file like once a minute |
| [02:15:35] | Beirdo: | samba.. muhahaha |
| [02:15:47] | wagnerrp: | looks like a HUP does it |
| [02:16:02] | Beirdo: | kill -slap smbd |
| [02:16:04] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [02:16:37] | mzb: | too early for beer here :( |
| [02:16:49] | ** mzb trundles off to do some more wiring ** | |
| [02:16:50] | Beirdo: | mzb: no such thing |
| [02:16:50] | wagnerrp: | its never too early for beer |
| [02:16:55] | mzb: | err |
| [02:17:13] | Beirdo: | mzb: you must be on the other side of the world then |
| [02:17:15] | wagnerrp: | obviously youve never heard of St. Pat's Day? |
| [02:17:23] | mzb: | let me rephrase that then ... it's midday, and if I start drinking beer now I'll run out by 1pm ;) |
| [02:17:29] | Beirdo: | heheeh |
| [02:17:39] | Beirdo: | ok, that's a different issue |
| [02:17:53] | wagnerrp: | keg and eggs |
| [02:17:57] | wagnerrp: | you start at 7am |
| [02:17:59] | mzb: | hehe |
| [02:18:03] | Beirdo: | oooh. |
| [02:18:04] | wagnerrp: | and once the keg is empty |
| [02:18:04] | Beirdo: | eggs |
| [02:18:11] | Beirdo: | that's not a bad idea |
| [02:18:12] | wagnerrp: | you stumble your way to the nearest bar |
| [02:18:22] | Beirdo: | I'm hungry |
| [02:18:39] | Beirdo: | be back in a few. |
| [02:18:41] | mzb: | I'm _thirsty_ |
| [02:18:44] | mzb: | ;) |
| [02:18:46] | mzb: | bbl |
| [02:18:56] | GrahamIRC: | I've been up 22hrs, I really should be sleepy! |
| [02:19:51] | wagnerrp: | what were you doing up at 4am? |
| [02:20:09] | GrahamIRC: | it's 4am here now |
| [02:20:18] | GrahamIRC: | was up at 6am |
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| [02:20:28] | wagnerrp: | thought it was 2am |
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| [02:20:42] | GrahamIRC: | and got in from work at 2:45 am :-/ |
| [02:21:03] | GrahamIRC: | not here, definitely 3:20am |
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| [02:21:28] | wagnerrp: | for some reason, i thought you were only 4 ahead this time of year |
| [02:21:54] | GrahamIRC: | GMT+1 now |
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| [02:22:34] | GrahamIRC: | been toiling with a pig of a call manager installation |
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| [02:25:23] | justdave: | wow, upgrade process for mythvideo takes a long time if you have a lot of videos. looks like a good idea what it's doing though (hashing all the videos) |
| [02:25:49] | justdave: | no feedback on the screen at all, I thought it crashed or something |
| [02:25:57] | justdave: | had to go look at the log to know it was still doing something |
| [02:26:37] | iamlindoro: | upgrade busy indicators is on the Big List Of Things To Do (tm) |
| [02:26:41] | justdave: | that ought to put something on the screen while it's doing that ("Hashing all your videos — this may take a while") |
| [02:26:44] | justdave: | heh. :) |
| [02:27:31] | iamlindoro: | Feel free to poach that particular item ;) |
| [02:27:41] | iamlindoro: | svn.mythtv.org -> New Ticket when you're done |
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| [02:29:48] | justdave: | If I knew C I'd be happy to |
| [02:30:03] | justdave: | perl, php, python, and xml I can handle |
| [02:30:13] | justdave: | location of the settings file change? |
| [02:30:22] | iamlindoro: | ? |
| [02:30:27] | iamlindoro: | We don't ahve a settings file |
| [02:30:29] | justdave: | after it finished the upgrade it complains that it can't connect to the backend server |
| [02:30:36] | justdave: | but it just did in order to do the ugprade |
| [02:30:57] | iamlindoro: | well, it connected to the DB to do the upgrade |
| [02:30:59] | iamlindoro: | not your backend |
| [02:31:15] | iamlindoro: | meaning it can get to the DB, but that the backend is not running or inaccessible |
| [02:31:23] | justdave: | hmm |
| [02:31:30] | justdave: | certainly looks like it's running |
| [02:32:19] | justdave: | oh, backend is sitting running in a loop trying to connect to the DB spitting out an error that it can't find mysql.txt |
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| [02:32:44] | justdave: | and it's looking in /.mythtv instead of /etc/mythtv apparently |
| [02:32:57] | wagnerrp: | as it should be |
| [02:33:00] | iamlindoro: | ~/.mythtv that is |
| [02:33:02] | wagnerrp: | it only looks in your home directory |
| [02:33:06] | wagnerrp: | where ever that currently is |
| [02:33:07] | justdave: | the backend? |
| [02:33:12] | wagnerrp: | everything |
| [02:33:13] | justdave: | backend is a system daemon I thought |
| [02:33:15] | iamlindoro: | yes, whomever is running the BE |
| [02:33:20] | iamlindoro: | the BE still runs as a user |
| [02:33:30] | iamlindoro: | so that user's ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [02:34:26] | ** iamlindoro needs 17 more commits ** | |
| [02:34:55] | justdave: | lrwxrwxrwx 1 mythtv root 21 2008-03–15 17:53 /home/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt -> /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [02:35:49] | iamlindoro: | So either the user running MBE is not mythtv, or the information in mysql.txt is invalid |
| [02:35:54] | ** iamlindoro blames packaging ** | |
| [02:36:02] | justdave: | probably. |
| [02:36:50] | iamlindoro: | I claim ignorance when it comes to what they jam into which package, and especially what *buntu does with database configuration |
| [02:37:06] | iamlindoro: | Every time I try to understand I end up bleeding from the eyes, ears, nose, and anus |
| [02:37:17] | justdave: | it's actually looking for /.mythtv |
| [02:37:21] | justdave: | someone ate a ~ |
| [02:37:40] | justdave: | I did an ln -s /home/mythtv/.mythtv /.mythtv |
| [02:37:46] | justdave: | and the backend suddenly started working |
| [02:38:05] | justdave: | jya: ^^^ your package. :) |
| [02:38:23] | Beirdo: | you sure you didn't do mythtv-setup as root? |
| [02:38:30] | iamlindoro: | I'm guessing maybe a broken environment/home variable for the mythtv user hen |
| [02:38:31] | iamlindoro: | er then |
| [02:38:34] | Beirdo: | that's not missing a ~, that's root's home dir |
| [02:38:48] | justdave: | root's home dir is /root/ |
| [02:38:52] | Beirdo: | looks to me like you did the setup as root, then ran as non-root |
| [02:39:14] | iamlindoro: | yeah, on ubuntu root's ~ is /root/ |
| [02:39:14] | jya: | jastdave: installer is the same as the one in mythbuntu... so not my bug... |
| [02:39:37] | justdave: | I was running as the mythtv user when I ran mythtv-setup |
| [02:39:39] | Beirdo: | K, well it still is lookin that way :) |
| [02:39:56] | justdave: | from the default shell in a new terminal window opened from mythtv's desktop anyway |
| [02:40:18] | iamlindoro: | justdave, su to mythtv and "echo $HOME" |
| [02:40:27] | iamlindoro: | suspect it's pointed at / |
| [02:40:43] | justdave: | ~$ echo $HOME |
| [02:40:44] | justdave: | /home/mythtv |
| [02:40:59] | iamlindoro: | hmm, got me then :)... init script/upstart brokenness? |
| [02:41:28] | Beirdo: | or a typo at some point? |
| [02:41:30] | Beirdo: | dunno |
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| [02:41:57] | iamlindoro: | old init script used to to USER_HOME=$(grep ^$USER /etc/passwd | awk -F : '{print $6}') |
| [02:42:19] | iamlindoro: | which seems... odd-ish |
| [02:42:25] | Beirdo: | awk!? |
| [02:42:29] | Beirdo: | man cut |
| [02:42:43] | Beirdo: | why do people use awk where cut is faster, smaller, and more correct? :) |
| [02:43:19] | iamlindoro: | hmm, doesn't look like they use it for anything except for setting up the symlink to /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [02:43:24] | iamlindoro: | so not relevant |
| [02:43:28] | sphery: | hey, that awk... with grep... and bash... you could build a whole replacement for MythVideo |
| [02:43:35] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [02:43:35] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [02:43:47] | iamlindoro: | anyhoo |
| [02:44:02] | justdave: | ubuntu's mythtv-setup command has a GUI wrapper around it that prompts to shut down the backend and so forth |
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| [02:44:17] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:44:22] | justdave: | wonder if shelling out to the real mythtv-setup from that confused it |
| [02:44:29] | Beirdo: | I think I'll just stick with trunk |
| [02:44:32] | justdave: | although it used to work. :) |
| [02:44:37] | Beirdo: | less likely to be borked |
| [02:44:45] | iamlindoro: | shouldn't matter-- the backend should always be parsing ~/.mythtv of whoemever runs it |
| [02:44:56] | iamlindoro: | the real question is what in the world / is doing in there |
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| [02:45:25] | iamlindoro: | Still smells like environment variable breakage to me, though |
| [02:46:41] | justdave: | so the initscript is basically a passthrough to upstart |
| [02:46:49] | ** justdave wonders where upstart keeps its config data ** | |
| [02:46:57] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:47:06] | Beirdo: | dunno. I refuse to look at it |
| [02:48:10] | justdave: | dpkg -L mythtv-backend is useful for that |
| [02:48:19] | justdave: | looks like /etc/init/mythtv-backend.conf |
| [02:48:30] | justdave: | USER=mythtv |
| [02:48:30] | justdave: | ARGS="--logfile /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log --user $USER" |
| [02:48:46] | Beirdo: | !trout justdave no flooding |
| [02:48:46] | ** MythLogBot slaps justdave with a no flooding trout on behalf of Beirdo... ** | |
| [02:49:01] | justdave: | two lines is a flood? |
| [02:49:05] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [02:49:16] | Beirdo: | no, it was a preventative measure |
| [02:49:46] | justdave: | oh, you thought I was going to paste more. :) |
| [02:49:54] | justdave: | it does look like it's running as root in the process list though |
| [02:51:22] | justdave: | that --user param doesn't look like it's getting used when it actually gets run |
| [02:51:29] | justdave: | it's not shown in the process list anyway |
| [02:52:18] | iamlindoro: | That user param was from a patch the mythbuntu folks submitted |
| [02:52:29] | iamlindoro: | don't know if they might be doing any additional patching on top of it |
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| [02:54:43] | iamlindoro: | justdave, did you update to their trunk packages, or .23? |
| [02:54:51] | iamlindoro: | justdave, If trunk, I might have an explanation |
| [02:54:58] | justdave: | 0.23 from jya's repo |
| [02:55:04] | iamlindoro: | ah... nm then |
| [02:55:29] | iamlindoro: | was going to say that yesterday there was a refactor of command line parsing in trunk that could very well have caused what you're seeing |
| [02:55:34] | jya: | 0.23-fxes packages are identical to mythbuntu ones. I haven't changed a thing yet |
| [02:57:14] | justdave: | I figured there might be a few loose ends since it's in testing still, but I like to experiment. :) |
| [02:57:40] | justdave: | all seems to be working now though. |
| [02:58:26] | justdave: | you're backporting the lucid package, right? |
| [02:58:34] | justdave: | pretty sure karmic still only has 0.22 in it |
| [03:10:37] | jya: | justdave: not really backporting.. Just compiled for 9.04, 9.10 and 10.04 |
| [03:10:53] | jya: | that's in the testing repository too |
| [03:13:38] | justdave: | yeah, said that about 4 lines up. :) I knew it was probably risky, but I was in a daring mood tonight :) |
| [03:13:57] | justdave: | that and I'm on vacation from work this week, so my weekend would be free to clean up any mess if I had to |
| [03:14:16] | justdave: | (but it doesn't look like I have much to clean up, all the stuff I care about seems to work still) |
| [03:14:54] | justdave: | except for my favorite themes disappearing, but I'll live |
| [03:16:15] | justdave: | oh, I need to pull my secondary backend out of the job pool |
| [03:16:20] | justdave: | it's on an intrepid box |
| [03:16:34] | justdave: | no 0.23 for intrepid |
| [03:16:41] | justdave: | I forgot that had a backend running on it |
| [03:16:54] | justdave: | it's on a TV nobody uses so I didn't care. :) |
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| [03:30:49] | iamlindoro: | j-rod, Can I close #5745? |
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| [03:38:01] | jya: | justdave: intrepid doesn't have the debhelper required to build the new packages format... so i dropped support for intrepid |
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| [03:46:08] | justdave: | jya: no argument from me. I would have upgraded that box a long time ago if I didn't do something stupid like install a copy of Zimbra on it that I can't upgrade until about a month after Lucid officially releases. |
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| [03:46:54] | justdave: | I hacked Zimbra to hell to make it install on intrepid (they only officially support hardy) |
| [03:47:18] | justdave: | and they only do LTS releases, so if I don't want to be a massochist again I wait for them to pick up Lucid |
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| [03:52:54] | Beirdo: | oh blah |
| [03:53:07] | Beirdo: | I'm 6 bytes over |
| [03:53:21] | iamlindoro: | kormoc_afk, ping |
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| [04:01:18] | sphery: | So, I just found out that TNT did a series about iamlindoro. The Closer. |
| [04:01:24] | sphery: | Guess I'll have to buy that on DVD. |
| [04:01:25] | iamlindoro: | ha |
| [04:02:35] | iamlindoro: | See: |
| [04:02:35] | iamlindoro: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/379949#379949 |
| [04:02:35] | iamlindoro: | For the rationale on why this doesn't make sense, on top of not functioning or being tested on any modern version of Myth. In short, per the SD developer in the thread, the runtime information bears no direct relationship to the scheduling information. |
| [04:02:48] | iamlindoro: | And just close with that? |
| [04:03:24] | iamlindoro: | oh gosh darn it |
| [04:03:29] | ** iamlindoro hides ** | |
| [04:03:50] | sphery: | I'd say just the last part |
| [04:03:56] | sphery: | In short... |
| [04:03:58] | sphery: | with the link |
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| [04:04:38] | alex3651651: | hey guys, is there a keyboard shortcut to window mythfrontend? |
| [04:04:45] | [R]: | window is a verb? |
| [04:04:47] | sphery: | though the other's a valid point, probably don't need to poke any sleeping bears |
| [04:05:02] | alex3651651: | [R]: well, remove fullscreen |
| [04:05:19] | iamlindoro: | alex3651651, No, Myth is not on-the-fly scalable |
| [04:05:27] | alex3651651: | iamlindoro: ah, i see |
| [04:05:36] | alex3651651: | thanks |
| [04:05:47] | iamlindoro: | maybe/hopefully when we go all-GL for the UI, if that day ever comes |
| [04:06:04] | sphery: | even if it does, I'll continue to use a TV or monitor |
| [04:06:11] | wagnerrp: | basically, mythtv was designed to go full screen on a tv, and be used by a remote |
| [04:06:14] | sphery: | What kind of resolution do you get on a fly, anyway? |
| [04:06:22] | wagnerrp: | being able to scale by that is not high priority |
| [04:06:22] | iamlindoro: | african oreuropean? |
| [04:06:25] | sphery: | I don't think even a horsefly would be big enough for my taste |
| [04:06:28] | iamlindoro: | s/or/or / |
| [04:06:29] | sphery: | lol |
| [04:06:46] | wagnerrp: | sphery: but theyve got those compound eyes |
| [04:06:55] | wagnerrp: | you would have millions of tiny tvs |
| [04:06:59] | sphery: | heh, like a wall of video |
| [04:07:16] | sphery: | can we do picture in picture in picture in picture... |
| [04:08:59] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: if you figure out a way to find the nearest keyframe to a cutpoint, let me know |
| [04:09:12] | wagnerrp: | i wanted to put something like that into mythfs and/or the bindings |
| [04:09:21] | wagnerrp: | but couldnt figure out a way to do it without actually processing the video |
| [04:09:33] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, I think I have some sort of implementation of that in the old avidemux project patch |
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| [04:11:02] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, hmm, maybe it wasn't there, but I've definitely done exactly that before |
| [04:15:36] | wagnerrp: | nevermind |
| [04:15:45] | wagnerrp: | the keyframes are ordered by frame number |
| [04:16:00] | wagnerrp: | for some reason last time i looked at it, i thought they were ordered by keyframe number |
| [04:16:30] | wagnerrp: | that should be fairly easy enough to do |
| [04:19:22] | iamlindoro: | Pretty sure what I did was take the frame number of the cutpoint and find the nearest seektable entry for it |
| [04:20:47] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i was thinking the keyframes were 'mark'ed 1,2,3,4,... but thats not the case |
| [04:21:13] | wagnerrp: | the way it _actually_ is, its not that difficult to do clipping at the keyframe |
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| [04:21:52] | sphery: | wagnerrp: wouldn't you need byte position for the filesystem? |
| [04:22:49] | wagnerrp: | ive got byte position for the keyframe |
| [04:23:05] | sphery: | ah |
| [04:23:16] | wagnerrp: | so i just find the nearest keyframe inside the cutpoints |
| [04:23:22] | wagnerrp: | and recompute the space |
| [04:23:27] | wagnerrp: | s/space/size/ |
| [04:23:28] | sphery: | cool |
| [04:24:43] | wagnerrp: | although more important right now is a way to handle changing file size |
| [04:25:15] | wagnerrp: | and im thinking i might disable the 'Video' mount until the recorded/videometadata refactor |
| [04:25:22] | wagnerrp: | so i can get the file size straight from the database |
| [04:25:27] | wagnerrp: | rather than having to scrape the backend |
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| [04:36:00] | wagnerrp: | so has hulu become unfashionable, and now we want netflix streaming? |
| [04:36:39] | klk: | will myth get any advantage running on a 64 bit machine? |
| [04:37:50] | [R]: | klk: back or front |
| [04:38:52] | klk: | [R]: both |
| [04:39:06] | [R]: | what kind of video |
| [04:39:35] | klk: | I've got an hdhomerun, and will eventually have 2 hd-pvrs |
| [04:40:37] | [R]: | well i belive the video decoding libs benefit from 64bit slightly |
| [04:40:40] | [R]: | specially for h264 |
| [04:42:33] | klk: | does flash still have issues with 64 bit? I plan to mess around with the mythnetvision plugin |
| [04:43:06] | [R]: | adobe has had a 64bit flash plugin for years |
| [04:44:06] | wagnerrp: | i do not believe there is any significant advantage to running the frontend or backend on 64-bit |
| [04:44:24] | wagnerrp: | any encoding/decoding benefit is going to be on the order of a couple percent |
| [04:44:27] | [R]: | i thought there was some 64bit asm optimizations |
| [04:44:35] | [R]: | every extra second helps! |
| [04:44:35] | [R]: | haha |
| [04:44:53] | klk: | if my machine needs a 2% benefit then i need a new machine :-) |
| [04:44:53] | wagnerrp: | however, i see no reason to recommend someone stick with 32-bit either |
| [04:45:07] | wagnerrp: | i run 64-bit on everything but my laptop (an old P3) |
| [04:45:16] | [R]: | p3 laptop? whats wrong with you |
| [04:45:37] | wagnerrp: | i use it for little more than an X terminal |
| [04:45:52] | wagnerrp: | its got a nice screen, halfway decent battery, and thats all i really need |
| [04:46:15] | klk: | thanks for your input |
| [04:46:59] | wagnerrp: | anyway, i dont believe there is actually any advantage directly from running 64-bit |
| [04:47:12] | wagnerrp: | i dont think video decoding does any such large number calculations to make it worthwile |
| [04:48:06] | wagnerrp: | the 'improved asm' would come from the inclusion of 3dnowext and sse3/4 that came with those architectures, as well as the increased register space |
| [04:48:25] | wagnerrp: | i dont know if any of ffmpeg uses those off hand |
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| [05:02:44] | wagnerrp: | apparently AMD is going to start selling their 6-core Phenoms for $200 |
| [05:17:00] | mzb: | 6 core? nice |
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| [05:21:11] | justdave: | mythbrowser doesn't remember cookies from one session to the next does it |
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| [05:24:46] | justdave: | in a way that's nice, but it throws a kink in using MythNetVision to view videos on a site that requires a login to actually watch the videos (have to log in every time instead of just the first time) |
| [05:29:19] | wagnerrp: | you can scrape the page without needing a login? |
| [05:29:37] | justdave: | they have a public rss feed listing the new videos |
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| [06:35:30] | slacker-: | Hi, anyone using sheperd for australian dvb? |
| [06:36:19] | slacker-: | not sure if the australian matters, though, I'm getting core dumps, seg faults etc etc |
| [06:36:44] | wagnerrp: | what version of myth are you running? |
| [06:37:20] | slacker-: | 0.22 |
| [06:37:30] | slacker-: | on ubuntu karmic |
| [06:38:18] | slacker-: | and shepherd v1.4.0 (linux) |
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| [06:38:40] | slacker-: | actually, the errors come from mythfilldatabase |
| [06:38:46] | wagnerrp: | shepherd is just an XMLTV provider isnt it? |
| [06:38:51] | wagnerrp: | so its MFD that is segfaulting? |
| [06:38:56] | slacker-: | yes |
| [06:39:30] | slacker-: | various reasons |
| [06:39:44] | wagnerrp: | i dont think there has been any significant change in that |
| [06:39:52] | slacker-: | *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/mythfilldatabase: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x08e31e81 *** |
| [06:39:58] | wagnerrp: | oof... |
| [06:40:04] | slacker-: | QMutex::lock: mutex lock failure: |
| [06:40:05] | slacker-: | *** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/mythfilldatabase: corrupted double-linked list: 0x0939a568 *** |
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| [06:40:17] | wagnerrp: | glibc errors basically dont happen |
| [06:40:27] | slacker-: | yes.. |
| [06:40:39] | wagnerrp: | you get one of those, you best start looking for failing hardware |
| [06:40:40] | slacker-: | if anything else would have trouble, I would have ran memtest |
| [06:42:41] | slacker-: | it still fills up the database |
| [06:42:51] | slacker-: | so the error must happen towards the end |
| [06:43:09] | wagnerrp: | well if youve got a core file, go ahead and generate a backtrace |
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| [06:44:26] | slacker-: | either I don't have one or locate can't find it |
| [06:44:49] | slacker-: | maybe if I run it manually |
| [06:46:23] | slacker-: | interestingly, it only does it once a day, even though mythfilldatabase runs every hour |
| [06:46:38] | slacker-: | must be when it's updating the database rather than collecting stuff |
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| [06:51:17] | slacker-: | how can I tell cron to save the coredumps? |
| [06:51:37] | wagnerrp: | it will just dump to the directory its running in, wherever that is |
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| [06:51:47] | wagnerrp: | you may also have to set the dump size to unlimited |
| [06:51:51] | wagnerrp: | i forget just how to do that exactly |
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| [06:55:55] | slacker-: | hm, it runs in ~ but there are no core files |
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| [07:03:35] | slacker-: | actually, it doesn't do any core dumps. |
| [07:03:50] | slacker-: | maybe limit 0 doesn't mean inf |
| [07:07:17] | slacker-: | alright, I set it to unlimited. now I have to wait a day |
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| [08:20:46] | matmat: | good morning |
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| [08:56:19] | noaXess: | good morning |
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| [08:56:37] | noaXess: | if i run mythfilldatabase iget program's just for a few channels.. not for all.. |
| [08:56:59] | noaXess: | i get this messages: 2010-04–10 10:56:41.469 Checking day @ offset 0, date: Sat Apr 10 2010 |
| [08:56:59] | noaXess: | 2010-04–10 10:56:41.491 Data is already present for Sat Apr 10 2010, skipping |
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| [08:57:54] | noaXess: | if i search in the database: select * from program where starttime = '2010-04–10' iget just 10 records.. in ~/.mythtv.xmltvch.xmltv i have a lot more channels.. |
| [08:58:22] | noaXess: | XMLTV config file is: /home/thomi/.mythtv/xmltvch.xmltv |
| [08:58:36] | noaXess: | also i get a lot of this messages: Ignoring empty timestamp. |
| [08:58:44] | noaXess: | is there a problem with the grabber configuration? |
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| [09:03:52] | noaXess: | bye the way.. if i configure the video source and walk trough my first source options, i have a lot of information per down click, but see no option like checkboxes or input fileds... it's not easy to explain.. |
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| [09:06:51] | noaXess: | here is what i mean.. a screenshot and the focus is on the Video Source name: http://imagebin.ca/view/KIjeIK.html |
| [09:07:17] | noaXess: | now i can press down arror about 20x but can't reach the Finish button.. |
| [09:08:58] | noaXess: | if i press down arrow about 30x, then i get to the Finish button.. while press down it changes the information between: Run xmltv command and If this is enabled the data source will be updated with listing data provided by the channel themselves 'over-the-air' |
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| [09:12:18] | highzeth: | I only pull info for ~5 channels from that .ch site, rest I use EIT on 13E & 19.2E. You sure they got EPG for the channels you have enabled? |
| [09:13:47] | noaXess: | highzeth: i had it before i reconfigure mythtv cause recording problems.. don't know why now not.. |
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| [09:14:38] | highzeth: | and you are sure the xmltv file is configured right, ie, contain all the channels you want? |
| [09:14:55] | noaXess: | highzeth: your swiss too? |
| [09:15:30] | highzeth: | no, you question would be, do you 'dish' too. satellite reaches beyond borders ;) |
| [09:16:19] | highzeth: | Lotsa good FTA channels on those two satellites |
| [09:16:40] | noaXess: | ok.. wait.. i post the xmltv file |
| [09:16:59] | noaXess: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/412019/ |
| [09:18:07] | highzeth: | ok, so ~25 channels you want |
| [09:18:11] | noaXess: | yesterday in the evening i reconfigured my mythtv tv-cards, video sources, connectiony and channels... before, tv program worked really good over tv.search.ch |
| [09:18:19] | noaXess: | highzeth: yes. |
| [09:18:34] | highzeth: | and you have all the XMLTV ID's entered in the channels? |
| [09:20:23] | noaXess: | highzeth: aha.. not all |
| [09:20:46] | noaXess: | so that causes it.. |
| [09:21:13] | noaXess: | hm.. is there any list which channel needs whick xmltvid? |
| [09:21:35] | highzeth: | you could do a manuel run to confirm they actually have data on said channels too + get the XMLTV ID's they use |
| [09:22:50] | highzeth: | tv_grab_ch_search --config-file ~/.mythtv/xmltvch.xmltv --output tvch.xml --days 2 |
| [09:23:17] | noaXess: | aha.. |
| [09:24:11] | highzeth: | then in the first page(s) it lists <channel id="einsfestival"> fi, and you set what inside "" for that channel unt so weiter |
| [09:24:26] | noaXess: | also du sprichst deutsch? |
| [09:24:48] | highzeth: | also skim through the rest of the file to be sure that it actually got EPG for the channels your have chosen |
| [09:24:55] | noaXess: | grapping now.. grabing deeper and depper |
| [09:25:01] | highzeth: | noja, ich furstehe besser dann ich spreche |
| [09:25:08] | noaXess: | cool :) |
| [09:25:25] | noaXess: | naja, ich verstehe besser als ich spreche.. so it will be correct ;) |
| [09:25:42] | noaXess: | from where are you are? |
| [09:26:04] | highzeth: | its never been correct, but germans are allright, they nod & smile and start talking english after Ive made a fool of myself for ~10min ;) |
| [09:26:06] | highzeth: | Norway |
| [09:27:33] | noaXess: | hey cool... i love north countries.. have an oncle in sweden.. köping..he is swiss, maried a swidish girl and lives since more then 30years in köping |
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| [09:27:42] | highzeth: | I skipped too many german classes, but I do ok when speaking it, albeit best after a bottle of wein yahhh |
| [09:28:30] | highzeth: | Well, good, Im not fond if the north periode. Good days ahead now tho, almost no snow left =) |
| [09:28:54] | highzeth: | s/if/of |
| [09:29:21] | noaXess: | back to mythtv.. |
| [09:29:50] | highzeth: | back to water boiling, french roast & french press. bbi 10 |
| [09:29:54] | noaXess: | if i run the grabber config in mythtv-setup does it add channels ot channel table from mythvonverg? |
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| [09:30:56] | highzeth: | no, they are seperate entities in such regards, if you are missing/disabled a channel in you xmlch config file, remove the first # in its line to enable it on the next run |
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| [09:31:56] | highzeth: | you also must set the XMLTV ID's yourself ofc *Before* you run it again |
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| [09:44:21] | highzeth: | ahh nothing beats good coffee & some sun out on the porch |
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| [09:46:01] | justinh: | I bet I could name some things |
| [09:47:20] | highzeth: | sure, any other time of day & I'd choose a diff liquids, but a day without java first aint worth exploring |
| [09:47:26] | clever: | [1]- Segmentation fault (core dumped) mythfrontend -v network |
| [09:47:36] | clever: | looks like the latest trunk hasnt cleared up my segfaults |
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| [09:49:01] | highzeth: | Im sure you've been asked this allready, but you have tested your ram I take it? |
| [09:49:31] | highzeth: | only time I have segfaults issues was over a memstick that was semi fubar |
| [09:49:42] | highzeth: | I've had* |
| [09:49:46] | clever: | i get segfaults alot when mythfrontend times out on the network |
| [09:50:56] | highzeth: | ahh yes, remember you had/have those issues now, see! java does spark a few braincells into gear |
| [09:50:58] | clever: | given that the backtrace looks like #0 0x00000001 in ?? (), id say a buffer overflowed |
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| [09:54:32] | clever: | ok, wtf |
| [09:54:38] | clever: | all 3 storage dir's are down below 5gig |
| [09:54:42] | clever: | it should be auto-expiring |
| [09:55:04] | highzeth: | I cannot believe how cheap dvb-t sticks can be, almost tempted to get a few just to play with |
| [09:56:22] | highzeth: | 2£ .. thats just funny & sad at the same time. If only our DVB-T provider had anything of interrest |
| [09:57:48] | AndyCap: | highzeth: heh, 3 channels not enough? :P |
| [09:58:21] | highzeth: | sure, they could make a decent fail-safe for when I need to do work on the dishes. You using dvb-t with myth? |
| [09:59:05] | highzeth: | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Digital-USB-DVB-T-HDTV- . . . em4a9b4f9db1 |
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| [09:59:48] | highzeth: | 2£?! hehe, funny |
| [10:00:29] | AndyCap: | highzeth: no, but have been thinking about it. |
| [10:01:30] | highzeth: | we use a Revo3600 as frontend on each house on the farm, we all have external antennas up still from the analog days, would be a nice |
| [10:02:09] | highzeth: | I helped a bud set that stick up a few days ago, will wait to see how well HE-AAC floats within myth before I do any shopping |
| [10:02:52] | AndyCap: | If I could have gotten a couple of more channels I'd probably do it. I do have a usb stick lying about. handy when one's traveling. |
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| [10:03:23] | clever: | it seems like auto-expire is totaly borked |
| [10:04:40] | highzeth: | AndyCap: sure is. Im gonna do a major dish move & rewiring this summer, so I might just get a few to buy me some extra time while its in progress |
| [10:08:36] | highzeth: | AndyCap: http://file.ohhh.no/bud-21042009.jpg gonna move the BUD into its permanent home, didnt get done with the concrete flooring before the snow came along |
| [10:09:53] | AndyCap: | Oh, heh, quite a dish. Do you get Astra 2d or something? |
| [10:10:29] | highzeth: | yep thats the beam to aim for =) |
| [10:10:46] | highzeth: | 2meter is bearly enough so far up north |
| [10:11:56] | AndyCap: | Hehe, no room for a large enough dish to get 2D on my balcony. |
| [10:12:12] | highzeth: | thats the problem with urban living ;) |
| [10:13:05] | highzeth: | I got offered a 4.2m for free, if I got a truck to pick it up, but thats just too much work |
| [10:13:20] | AndyCap: | Not quite ready to give up walking to work yet though. |
| [10:14:13] | AndyCap: | you'd need a building permit for that I think |
| [10:14:20] | highzeth: | I hear ya, I do miss that part, but having notn but fields around me and a garden by a lil river is just too nice to give up |
| [10:15:00] | highzeth: | nahh, no one cares what you put up next to a barn up here. |
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| [10:19:39] | justinh: | woo, myth backend is now in its new house |
| [10:19:51] | justinh: | pity I've not got round to upgrading it to a new system yet but hey |
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| [11:56:34] | noaXess: | is there any way to get today's program data.. mythfilldatabase fills only from tomorow 6:00 |
| [11:58:48] | noaXess: | for today i get this from mythfilldabase: 2010-04–10 13:58:15.082 Checking day @ offset 0, date: Sat Apr 10 2010 |
| [11:58:48] | noaXess: | 2010-04–10 13:58:15.122 Data is already present for Sat Apr 10 2010, skipping |
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| [12:09:34] | highzeth: | mythfilldatabase --help would tell ya that --refresh-today might do the trick |
| [12:23:39] | noaXess: | highzeth: thanks a lot.. :).. |
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| [12:23:58] | noaXess: | so.. get to buy some food and other stuff.. with family.. see ya later.. bbs |
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| [12:38:57] | edomeda: | can myth 0.23 watch iso dvds without converting them to mythdvd rips? |
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| [12:53:02] | jarle: | edomeda: mythtv have been able to that for a long time... |
| [12:53:48] | edomeda: | jarle, cool, so where can I put all my dvd .iso files so I can watch them? |
| [12:54:08] | edomeda: | jarle, I assume somewhere in /var/lib/mythtv/.../ |
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| [12:55:22] | jarle: | edomeda: You will need to use the mythvideo plugin. And you can configure in mythvideo settings where the videos are stored. |
| [12:56:18] | edomeda: | jarle, is video/ used for that, or should I create my own? |
| [12:57:43] | Beirdo: | iamlindoro: heh, I see that you put me as the reporter on #8325 :) nice |
| [12:58:36] | jarle: | Go into the settings in the frontend, and look in videosettings. You'll the see path there. Guess it uses the video/ folder by default, so you could just put your .iso there.. |
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| [12:59:59] | jarle: | edomeda: after putting the .isos in the dir you will have to tell mythvideo to check for new videos from the menu within mythvideo. |
| [13:00:04] | edomeda: | jarle, great thanks, trying that now. One question, I have 240 DVDs (several TV series) is there a better way to organize them? Maybe sub-folders? |
| [13:01:16] | jarle: | edomeda: whatever you prefer, a subfolder for each video, or all videos in the root... |
| [13:01:49] | edomeda: | I thought I saw a cool (plug-in maybe) where it looked like a bunch of DVD covers, then they clicked on it and it had a dvd info page with rating/etc. |
| [13:04:24] | edomeda: | jarle, sorry, I've spent a week learning about myth, so might not know all these noobish questions |
| [13:04:53] | edomeda: | I had read on more than one website that 0.22 couldn't play iso to the FE |
| [13:05:30] | jarle: | edomeda: this is just one of the ways mythvideo can display you videos. You can switch how it is displayed by the touch of a button. Doesn't matter how you file-layout looks like. |
| [13:06:25] | edomeda: | jarle, yeah, like this shot: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/File:Blue-abstract.png |
| [13:06:56] | edomeda: | jarle, are those iso files? And if so, where does it store the metadata for info/title/rating/etc.? |
| [13:09:04] | jarle: | edomeda: probably .iso og just .avi or something else. metadata are stored in the database (where all mythtv settings are stored) |
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| [13:15:08] | edomeda: | jarle, sorry to bug you again, I moved an iso there, rescanned, and it found it, but when I try to play the FE errors out trying to open /dev/dvd (local drive) Did I need to change another setting? |
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| [13:16:41] | highzeth: | noaXess: kein problem! |
| [13:21:22] | jarle: | edomeda: do you get an error on the frontend? (Not from the console) |
| [13:22:25] | edomeda: | jarle, well my console that is running the FE on my desktop, the BE has the iso in videos/ |
| [13:22:58] | edomeda: | jarle, FE just returns without an error after I press play, but the console shows it's trying to open /dev/dvd |
| [13:24:03] | jarle: | edomeda: ahhh, the videofiles must be located on the frontend machine. |
| [13:24:55] | jarle: | edomeda: you could have one central video storage that shares the videofiles to the frontends using samba or nfs |
| [13:25:09] | edomeda: | jarle, umm, I can't, I've got 2TB of dvds on my server |
| [13:25:24] | jarle: | edomeda: but the video file has to be accessable via the the filesystem on the frontend you want to play it with. |
| [13:25:29] | edomeda: | jarle, so nfs mount videos? |
| [13:25:45] | jarle: | edomeda: correct. |
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| [13:26:14] | edomeda: | jarle, ok, will try that. The file still needs to sit on the BE in videos/ right? |
| [13:26:16] | jarle: | edomeda: and mount it to the same dir on all frontends |
| [13:26:48] | jarle: | edomeda: the file can be whereever you want, as long as it is accessable in the frontends filesystem. |
| [13:27:16] | edomeda: | jarle, right, but to get the listing on the FE with the covers/metadata/etc it needs to be on the BE right? |
| [13:27:42] | jarle: | I have video/ from my fileserver mounted as /mnt/video on all my frontends. |
| [13:28:24] | jarle: | edomeda: no, the frontend will store the metadata on the db on the backend. |
| [13:29:05] | jarle: | edomeda: just make sure that all fronends see the videofiles in the same dir. |
| [13:29:18] | edomeda: | jarle, I'm confused then, since the DVD wasn't visible to my BE when I first did it, but it shows on my FE |
| [13:29:47] | edomeda: | jarle, sorry, wasn't visible to my FE (was on BE) when I did it first |
| [13:29:50] | jarle: | edomeda: different macines? |
| [13:29:57] | edomeda: | jarle, yes |
| [13:30:35] | jarle: | edomeda: which version of myth? |
| [13:30:37] | edomeda: | jarle, BE is 6TB box running 0.23, I have 4 FEs |
| [13:32:33] | jarle: | edomeda: I'm on 0.22 so something might have changed in 0.23, but the way it used to be is how I described it. Anyway, try mounting you video share to /mnt/video on all frontends, and set all the frontends to use /mnt/video for videos, and the re-scan... |
| [13:33:17] | jarle: | edomeda: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo |
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| [13:34:10] | jarle: | edomeda: seems like newer versions of mythvideo doesn't need to mount the video shares. But I have never done it this way myself.. |
| [13:34:30] | edomeda: | jarle, it sees the video, but the player does nothing. :-) |
| [13:35:25] | jarle: | edomeda: go through the wiki I linked to and see if you have everything correct.. |
| [13:36:06] | edomeda: | # ISO/VIDEO_TS Playback does not presently work in Storage Groups. |
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| [13:37:32] | edomeda: | jarle, so I guess I need to use your setup? I read that before about not supporting iso files |
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| [13:40:26] | mazda01: | trying out mythvideo and storage groups because apparently mythweb requires it. so my question is why does mythtv-setup keep telling me other clients are connected to the database when they are not. |
| [13:41:58] | mazda01: | it wants to upgrade the video schema. and I have a choice of exit or upgrade. but it does say that other clients are connected. I donm't stop mythtv-backend because I thought envoking mythtv-setup actaully requests that the backend be shutdown and I hit yes. |
| [13:43:19] | noii: | hey justinh: sphery: thanks for your tips on trying to stop my mythtv setup from recording things multiple times. I tried running optimize_mythdb.pl but I'm still struggling to fix the issue. My guide data comes from EIT I think, and looks identical for description in two upcoming recordings, yet they are both due to record. Puzzling |
| [13:46:19] | mazda01: | nevermind, Im stupid and don't know what I am asking. OK, i am at a mythtv-frontend upstairs, NOT on the backend. I click on the frontend program, go into advanced, then media settings, and then video and that's where it tells me it wants to upgrade video schema but that there are other clients connected. No other frontends in the house are on at all. only the one I am trying to setup mythtvideo on. should I just do the schema upgrad |
| [13:46:19] | mazda01: | e and not worry about message about other clients. |
| [13:48:55] | dewman: | mazda01, I am no expert on mythtv, but I do have experience with DB upgrades, every time I do a upgrade to a DB I want to make sure that no one is connected to the database, you never know if a client has a table locked and if they do then the upgrade might fail. The upgrade is pretty quick on mythtv.. |
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| [13:49:49] | dewman: | mazda01, I dont know how mythtv handles upgrades with clients connected so thats just my 2 cents... |
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| [13:57:06] | jarle: | edomeda: yeah, I guess .iso files still works if mounted on the frontend using nfs/samba |
| [13:58:14] | noii: | ah, it seems to be shows without a subtitle that are recording multiple times. changing to "subtitle then description" seems to fix this |
| [14:00:35] | mazda01: | dewman, is there a command I can run in mysql to see who it connected? |
| [14:01:12] | mazda01: | is connected |
| [14:03:54] | dewman: | mazda01, I'm a oracle person but I think you can do something like this. from mysql prompt SHOW FULL PROCESSLIST\G |
| [14:08:36] | mazda01: | dewman, using phpmyadmin, there is actually a processes tab. it shows no processes running. i wonder why mythtvideo says that there are clients connected. |
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| [14:13:47] | dewman: | mazda01, Yeah that is odd. Of course it could be referring to your current connection. |
| [14:15:21] | dewman: | mazda01, take a full db backup, bounce the db and then try it... hehe....what could go wrong? lol |
| [14:17:39] | skd5aner: | Darn, I get a segfault playing back a few videos in .23 that I also had in .22, was hoping that would have been fixed :( |
| [14:22:10] | Arpman: | morning all |
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| [14:27:38] | noii: | is it possible to set the default duplicate matching to "subtitle then description"? |
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| [14:33:50] | Jester-Droid: | hello gents |
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| [14:37:14] | mazda01: | WOW, i still have a square monitor (not widescreen) on one of my computers and I just changed myth frontend to the only square one installed by default within Lucid Lynx and it crawls so slow it's not even useable. main menu just clicking down arrow takes 10 seconds to go to next selection |
| [14:38:00] | mazda01: | any thoughts? i have a nvidia 6200, I am using opengl painter. |
| [14:38:43] | Arpman: | Should I even bother trying to configure a PVR150 with Comcast? |
| [14:38:52] | Jester-Droid: | whats the pc specs? |
| [14:39:32] | mazda01: | Arpman, SURE, i still use all 3 analog tuners. pvr-350 and pvr-500. it's tv for me. |
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| [14:39:52] | Jester-Droid: | Im logged in from my droid... i LOVE this phone |
| [14:40:11] | Arpman: | hmm – well then Im having trouble getting it to work – is there a good troubleshooting guide? |
| [14:40:37] | Jester-Droid: | aprman.. should b an easy setup |
| [14:41:06] | Arpman: | I thought so to, but I get nothing – trying to figure out if the card is still working |
| [14:41:16] | Arpman: | its in a Sony Viao |
| [14:41:34] | Arpman: | ivtv detects it as a 150 |
| [14:41:34] | Jester-Droid: | are u using the tuner to tune signal or capture from a stb? |
| [14:42:07] | Jester-Droid: | yeah its essentially 2 150's |
| [14:42:07] | Arpman: | tune signal (this is my first project so Im a bit confused why its not working) |
| [14:43:12] | Arpman: | i tried cat /dev/video0 > /tmp/test.mpg |
| [14:43:14] | Jester-Droid: | hmm uve set up the source and the card and are having trouble getting the inputs set right? |
| [14:43:58] | Arpman: | yeah |
| [14:44:19] | Jester-Droid: | i dont think this is ur prob but always keep in mind.. sometimes pci slots dont work right or dont seat right |
| [14:45:16] | Jester-Droid: | i fought with an old box for hours just to realize i needed to reseat my cards lol .. swapped locations and they worked fine |
| [14:45:33] | Arpman: | I could move it – but lspci -n detects it correctly as 444:0016 |
| [14:45:49] | Arpman: | ill give it a try |
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| [14:46:06] | Arpman: | should take but a few minutes |
| [14:46:25] | Jester-Droid: | but at any rate you're going into the tuner input, setting everything up and then searching for cable channels right? |
| [14:47:20] | Arpman: | yeah – i think so. cat\pture card set up by ivtv and source is tuner 1 via comcast |
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| [14:49:30] | Jester-Droid: | what happens when u let it start scanning? |
| [14:49:58] | Arpman: | i dont get a scan option |
| [14:50:15] | Arpman: | that i know of – give me a minute |
| [14:50:52] | Jester-Droid: | its part of the backend setup.. should be part of configuring ur inputs |
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| [14:54:05] | Arpman: | cant move the tuner card – it would interfer with the PCIE vdideo card...argh |
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| [14:54:14] | Arpman: | booting now |
| [14:54:51] | Arpman: | starting myth banckend setup |
| [14:55:31] | Jester-Droid: | its alright.. just reseating it alone could b enough but i dont think thats it anyway |
| [14:56:00] | Arpman: | capture card is /dev/video0 (set by ivtv) |
| [14:56:15] | Jester-Droid: | what all options do u see on the home menu for setup.. not stg |
| [14:56:29] | Jester-Droid: | at a pc to ssh into one of mine lol |
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| [14:57:19] | Arpman: | backend or frontend setup? |
| [14:57:22] | Jester-Droid: | the droid is a great phone.. it lets me help others on the go lol |
| [14:57:50] | Arpman: | i hear they are gret phones – better then iphone? |
| [14:58:55] | Arpman: | ok – video source is set to correct capture card and input, but I cant use the "scan for channels" button ... hmmm |
| [14:59:34] | Jester-Droid: | hmm maybe the card isnt setup right |
| [14:59:44] | Arpman: | "Fetch channels from listings source" is my only option |
| [14:59:59] | Jester-Droid: | what all options does it have for the card type |
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| [15:01:01] | Arpman: | Well – Analog V4L is selected |
| [15:01:21] | Jester-Droid: | thats not it |
| [15:01:28] | Arpman: | I can try IVTV MPEG-2 encoder card type |
| [15:01:34] | Jester-Droid: | its def not a v4l card |
| [15:01:44] | Jester-Droid: | yes try that! |
| [15:02:47] | Arpman: | HOLLY MOLLY – OMG _ I can scan now |
| [15:03:02] | Jester-Droid: | v4l card are software encoding and that card is a hardcard |
| [15:03:04] | Arpman: | lets see if it works |
| [15:03:57] | Arpman: | what is us-cable-hrc? |
| [15:04:16] | Jester-Droid: | no |
| [15:04:27] | Arpman: | im using the try-all option |
| [15:04:39] | Jester-Droid: | should just b us-cable i think |
| [15:04:40] | Arpman: | hmm – no lock |
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| [15:05:23] | Jester-Droid: | hmm i have twc so i dont know much about comcast |
| [15:05:35] | Arpman: | hmm – no lock or signal strength – gonna have to look into that |
| [15:05:39] | Jester-Droid: | u could try all |
| [15:05:48] | Jester-Droid: | yeah |
| [15:06:07] | Arpman: | direct input i think... 1 minute |
| [15:06:33] | Jester-Droid: | dont worry too much if it fails to scan all channels tho. mine hangs up but when i i |
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| [15:08:07] | Jester-Droid: | when i fetch from source it then gets all my channels. i think my pci is just under voltage too much to support rapid channel swapping like that on the socket its plugged into |
| [15:09:11] | Jester-Droid: | i have 2 older pvr150s which could b the issue too :-/ |
| [15:09:27] | Jester-Droid: | but they work fine regardless |
| [15:09:46] | Arpman: | hmm – thanks Jester for the help – now I have aplace to start working from |
| [15:09:56] | Arpman: | but RL is calling – thanks alot |
| [15:11:05] | Jester-Droid: | alright man no prob. good luck .. one more thing tho |
| [15:11:39] | Arpman: | yeah – still not working – but that gives me something to do tonight |
| [15:12:18] | Arpman: | what up? |
| [15:12:26] | Jester-Droid: | when u go to use the video manage pree m and scan for videos lol it used to scan on its own but now u have to tell it to.. spent hours scratchin my head on that one |
| [15:12:42] | Jester-Droid: | press "m" |
| [15:13:52] | Jester-Droid: | when i installed the new myth i thought i messed up my permissions or something then finally realized u had to tell it to scan |
| [15:14:38] | Jester-Droid: | but with that ill let u go.. have a good one man |
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| [16:24:18] | sfkdj: | PLEASE DO NOT SAY THE N-WORD, NIGGERS ARE PEOPLE TOO! dennisbgeorgieanne |
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| [16:24:18] | sfkdj: | PLEASE DO NOT SAY THE N-WORD, NIGGERS ARE PEOPLE TOO! dennisbgeorgieanne |
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| [16:24:18] | sfkdj: | http://tinyurl.com/yjeheqj janneg dlblog MooingLemur tt884_ Patina Splat1 tomimo_ quicksilver hachi +wagnerrp donFTW Floppe eNeRGi growler tris baffle Heliwr bobshaffer thefRont Metoer J-e-f-f-A toorima bbigras sulx pigeon Lollero rhpot1991 at0m prg3 TheAsp kurre_ @ChanServ +jams Chipdancer tzanger lotia dknowles Daviey +GreyFoxx joe d-tech jmkasunich nils__ Therock_ high-rez mikeones XLV shadash honk jstenback dmz AndyCap Tomas- alo |
| [16:24:18] | sfkdj: | PLEASE DO NOT SAY THE N-WORD, NIGGERS ARE PEOPLE TOO! dennisbgeorgieanne |
| [16:24:19] | sfkdj: | PLEASE DO NOT SAY THE N-WORD, NIGGERS ARE PEOPLE TOO! dennisbgeorgieanne |
| [16:24:20] | sfkdj: | PLEASE DO NOT SAY THE N-WORD, NIGGERS ARE PEOPLE TOO! dennisbgeorgieanne |
| [16:24:45] | dmb: | idiot. |
| [16:25:02] | EvilGuru: | Bot. |
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| [16:25:26] | jamesd2: | can someone say the mode +b word... its much more useful |
| [16:25:27] | skd5aner: | where's a mod when you need em? |
| [16:25:27] | sfkdj: | PLEASE DO NOT SAY THE N-WORD, NIGGERS ARE PEOPLE TOO! dennisbgeorgieanne |
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| [16:26:42] | XLV: | the cavalry is here |
| [16:26:43] | sfkdj: | PLEASE DO NOT SAY THE N-WORD, NIGGERS ARE PEOPLE TOO! dennisbgeorgieanne |
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| [16:27:01] | dmb: | thanks tomaw |
| [16:27:08] | XLV: | and ther goes the bad indian |
| [16:29:11] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v janneg | |
| [16:30:39] | ** stoth choses not to look at the url ** | |
| [16:31:48] | dmb: | yeah, thats probably a good idea |
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| [17:04:11] | jams: | anybody still need banning? |
| [17:05:03] | jams: | doesn't look like it |
| [17:06:12] | jams: | oh i see he got k-lined. even better |
| [17:06:34] | skd5aner: | janneg: [12:26] * sfkdj (~kejriwer9@122-116-2–99.HINET-IP.hinet.net) Quit (K-Lined) |
| [17:06:46] | skd5aner: | didn't mean to put the janneg in there :) |
| [17:07:00] | jams: | gotcha |
| [17:07:15] | skd5aner: | thx though jams |
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| [17:12:45] | mazda01: | i've read over "transitioning to mythtv .22" as well as http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing but I still can't figure out how to get mythtv to scan and add meta data for movies I have ripped with previous windows software into 2 seperate file so that they would stay under 600mb so I could put them on cd's for my brother to watch on his avi player. can anyone help? currently they are named movie.1.avi and movie.2.avi. |
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| [17:30:44] | sphery: | mazda01: we don't want to hear about the sharing part |
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| [17:31:07] | sphery: | mazda01: I think you'll need to edit the title (not filename) so that MythVideo uses the correct name for searching |
| [17:31:35] | mazda01: | agreed, sorry. my point is that I used windows software to rip my dvd collection to avi files and I saved them in 2 parts. is there a way i can have mythvideo tmdb.py get metadata for both movie.1.avi and movie.2.avi |
| [17:31:37] | sphery: | also, bracketed info in filenames may be ignored when creating titles (so could do something like movie_[1].avi) |
| [17:32:08] | sphery: | but basically, I'm 99.9999% positive you'll have to edit something (either filename or title) |
| [17:32:20] | mazda01: | sphery, ok, next thing is that I am no bash script person and I don't know how to write regex search and mass renames. can you help with that? |
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| [17:35:46] | sphery: | mazda01: check out http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/06/how-to-re . . . es-in-group/ |
| [17:39:12] | Jester05: | hey guys I have a quick ? for you .. any of you using virtual box and notice much of a performance difference between 32 and 64 bit virtual machines? |
| [17:39:44] | Jester05: | the Host machine is a 64bit quad core 2.66ghz ... currently I'm trying to run a 64bit winXP and its horridly slow and eating the resources |
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| [17:42:06] | mazda01: | sphery, rename s/.1.avi/.[1].avi/ *.1.avi DID the trick. now the question is, will mythvideo show 2 movies? or will it know to "stack" them like xbmc does. PLEASE don't get me wrong, I know mythtv is not XBMC. only referring to something else that I am familar with |
| [17:44:57] | jamesd2: | Jester05, 64bit oses use more resources, so either run 32 bit or giving it more resources... unless you are doing really complex large problems 32 bit is better especially in guests. |
| [17:45:29] | jamesd2: | and if the problems are really that big better to run on bare metal |
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| [17:46:55] | Jester05: | yeah I know what you mean |
| [17:47:03] | Jester05: | I just need it to operate with my GPS |
| [17:47:28] | Jester05: | and currently to wipe off my old smart phone so I can turn it into a linux remote |
| [17:47:38] | sphery: | If you're running a 32-bit guest in VirtualBox, you're using all 32-bit libs in your multilib host install |
| [17:47:43] | wagnerrp: | mazda01: mythvideo will not do it automatically |
| [17:47:47] | sphery: | so you're not necessarily sharing the already-loaded libs |
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| [17:48:06] | wagnerrp: | you have to tell mythvideo that the first video should always play the second video |
| [17:48:06] | Jester05: | hmm |
| [17:48:10] | cesman: | mazda01: is you videos are multiple parts, why not merge them? Yes, mythvideo will "stack" them. |
| [17:48:11] | wagnerrp: | then makr the second video hidden |
| [17:48:22] | Jester05: | I just got my DROID set up as a myth remote and I love it! |
| [17:48:31] | wagnerrp: | or do what cesman suggests |
| [17:48:45] | wagnerrp: | use virtualdub (windows) or avidemux (linux) to just merge the files |
| [17:48:47] | sphery: | mazda01: and, TTBOMK, when you go into the edit metadata page for the first video, it will guess that it should play the 2nd video next, so if you save the metadata (even without making changes), it will work |
| [17:48:52] | wagnerrp: | should take 1–2 minutes per file |
| [17:49:05] | sphery: | or better, use wagnerrp's approach :) |
| [17:49:23] | wagnerrp: | s/wagnerrp's/cesman's/ |
| [17:49:57] | cesman: | mazda01: avimerge -c -o movie.avi -i movie.1.avi movie.2.avi && rm -fr movie.1.avi movie.2.avi |
| [17:50:09] | Jester05: | is there a way to do x-forwarding so that I could use my smartphone at a frontend so long as I'm locally connected? |
| [17:50:23] | wagnerrp: | your smartphone has an X server? |
| [17:50:40] | Jester05: | well if I were to figure out a way to put linux mobile on it |
| [17:50:51] | Jester05: | I'm not sure, just asking if theres any possible way to do it |
| [17:50:58] | jamesd2: | more likely web+flash would work better and have a greater chance of workig. |
| [17:51:02] | sphery: | Jester05: /at/ a frontend or /as/ a frontend? |
| [17:51:03] | wagnerrp: | yes... and forwarding X is the hard part of that plan |
| [17:51:24] | Jester05: | yeah kind of what i figured |
| [17:51:33] | Jester05: | I just wish there were a way to use it as a frontend |
| [17:51:35] | cesman: | mazda01: avimerge is part of the "transcode" package (if your distro has it) |
| [17:51:54] | wagnerrp: | all it takes to 'forward X' is to set the DISPLAY environment variable to some other machine |
| [17:51:55] | ** sphery doesn't understand the desire to use a 3 1/2 in TV screen ** | |
| [17:51:56] | jamesd2: | X forwardnign wouldn't give you audio.. so you then need a audio server, so not really a solution... |
| [17:52:09] | Jester05: | yeah true |
| [17:52:12] | wagnerrp: | you likely have to take care of security lockouts |
| [17:52:19] | wagnerrp: | or you can just use SSH to handle that for you |
| [17:52:35] | sphery: | for those who think using their phone as a TV is a good idea: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/01/apple_headmount_patent/ |
| [17:52:39] | Jester05: | it'd be nice if there were some method for it tho |
| [17:52:59] | wagnerrp: | Jester05: understand that X forwarding is NOT a solution for video |
| [17:53:05] | sphery: | definitely |
| [17:53:07] | Jester05: | yeah I know what you mean wagnerrp |
| [17:53:12] | wagnerrp: | all video scaling is done on the SERVER side |
| [17:53:20] | sphery: | so would allow you to use your phone /at/ a frontend, but not /as/ a frontend |
| [17:53:21] | jamesd2: | Jester05, .22 and later have flash intergrated, even though its alpha/beta, i find it works quite well |
| [17:53:26] | wagnerrp: | which means youll be sending full resolution uncompressed YUV over the network |
| [17:53:32] | Jester05: | well why not just create something like the windows app for mythtv but make it for win mobile or the droid |
| [17:53:40] | wagnerrp: | standard resolution video will saturate a 10/100 link |
| [17:53:54] | sphery: | wagnerrp: likely you'd be sending full-resolution uncompressed RGB/ARGB, right? |
| [17:53:59] | sphery: | with X forwarding |
| [17:54:04] | sphery: | i.e. already decoded |
| [17:54:09] | sphery: | and displayed |
| [17:54:16] | wagnerrp: | sphery: mythtv does not do colorspace conversion |
| [17:54:24] | sphery: | but the screen is RGB |
| [17:54:28] | jamesd2: | and X is very latency influanced, so wifi plus high bandwidth isn't going to play nice anyway.. |
| [17:54:32] | wagnerrp: | but Xv takes YUV |
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| [17:54:34] | sphery: | and MythTV isn't sending the video, X forwarding is |
| [17:54:52] | wagnerrp: | 'X forwarding' isnt some weird application |
| [17:55:01] | sphery: | also possible you'd send only the color key |
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| [17:55:04] | wagnerrp: | youre just pointing myth at the remote server, rather than the local one |
| [17:55:32] | wagnerrp: | chances are the droid does not support Xv anyway |
| [17:55:40] | wagnerrp: | which means youll be using X11 or XSHM |
| [17:55:50] | wagnerrp: | and youll have no scaling |
| [17:55:51] | cesman: | if you want to get video to your phone on the fly, why not use mediaserv |
| [17:55:59] | Jester05: | I think using flash could work tho |
| [17:56:06] | Jester05: | I can easily watch flash over even bad wifi |
| [17:56:10] | wagnerrp: | basically.... X forwarding will not work |
| [17:56:21] | Jester05: | over good wifi and I can run my standard def frontends |
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| [17:57:09] | wagnerrp: | Jester05: feel free to whip up some playback app for the droid |
| [17:57:09] | Jester05: | yeah i'm not disagreeing |
| [17:57:15] | wagnerrp: | but i doubt any of the devs would be motivated to do so |
| [17:57:16] | Jester05: | I may look into it |
| [17:58:12] | wagnerrp: | you may also want to check the 'iPhone' mode in mythweb |
| [17:58:24] | Jester05: | I'm in the mist of creating a program for tethering the droid currently |
| [17:58:40] | Jester05: | good point. thanks wagnerrp |
| [18:01:24] | Jester05: | I have to admit tho.. the droid is a pretty amazing phone |
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| [18:05:30] | Jester05: | anyone know of any scripts out there to scan for entire movie database meta data? |
| [18:05:48] | Jester05: | I unthinkingly relocated my movies on my network and now I have to rescan all of the metadata |
| [18:05:55] | janneg: | skd5aner: I was already here, just wasn't fast enough |
| [18:10:46] | tgm4883: | Jester05, like Jamu? |
| [18:10:58] | skd5aner: | np :) |
| [18:11:36] | Jester05: | jamu? |
| [18:11:59] | Jester05: | I'm looking into it tgm4883 |
| [18:12:01] | skd5aner: | {| cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5 |
| [18:12:01] | skd5aner: | | valign=top width=15% | __TOC__ |
| [18:12:01] | skd5aner: | | valign=top | |
| [18:12:02] | tgm4883: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Jamu#What_is_Jamu.3F |
| [18:12:06] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Jamu |
| [18:12:13] | skd5aner: | sorry for wrong Copy and Paste |
| [18:13:14] | RDV_Linux: | Jester05: If you are using 0.23 then you should be able to just rescan in MythVideo and the connection will be made to your metadata automatically due to the new hash field logic. |
| [18:13:52] | RDV_Linux: | Jester05: If you are not using 0.23 then Jamu is the other option. |
| [18:14:04] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: regarding the new hash code, does that only hash on new video import? or will it hash existing videos? |
| [18:14:32] | tgm4883: | I would assume existing as well |
| [18:14:39] | wagnerrp: | it will hash any existing video that has no hash |
| [18:14:54] | wagnerrp: | so if you want to move your content |
| [18:15:03] | wagnerrp: | upgrade to 0.23, let it hash all your existing content |
| [18:15:16] | wagnerrp: | move youre content, and then rescan, and let it match up all the new paths to the old hashes |
| [18:15:17] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Also Jamu adds then hash value if it does not exist |
| [18:15:18] | skd5aner: | ahhh, I'm guessing that's why the schema update took so long when I launced mythvideo for the first time after the .23-fixes upgrade |
| [18:15:30] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: correct |
| [18:15:33] | sphery: | heh, from a users list post: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2004/pulpi . . . _000460.html (published September 30, 2004) -> "What's happening in Andrew Greig's neighborhood is going to happen in three to five years in many neighborhoods." I must have missed that. |
| [18:15:52] | wagnerrp: | its reading the file size, and the first and last 128KB from each file |
| [18:15:53] | skd5aner: | I honestly thought the dang thing had frozen up – no dialog telling me anything was happening |
| [18:16:12] | sphery: | skd5aner: patch to add a dialog would be greatly appreciated |
| [18:16:16] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [18:16:18] | sphery: | need it for the DB updates in general |
| [18:16:30] | skd5aner: | sphery: if I could, I'd already be on it |
| [18:16:35] | skd5aner: | sorry :( |
| [18:16:42] | sphery: | thought it /did/ ask your permission to upgrade, it could use a dialog saying it's doing so |
| [18:16:48] | skd5aner: | yes, that is true |
| [18:16:59] | skd5aner: | just after 8 minutes of no response, I was a bit worried |
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| [18:17:13] | sphery: | of course, only mythvideo and mythmusic ask for permission, currently |
| [18:17:35] | sphery: | obviously the dialog should say, "This may take a while." :) |
| [18:17:57] | skd5aner: | Now I'm going to go play with jamu now that RDV_Linux has put everything in that I was hoping for over the last dev cycle :) |
| [18:18:45] | wagnerrp: | 'the discovery networks cost me $0.26 per customer per month' |
| [18:18:47] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [18:19:04] | wagnerrp: | individual consumers can license it for that cheap? |
| [18:19:05] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: ESPN is the most expensive typically... |
| [18:19:20] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: sure, thats the cable bulk licensing fee |
| [18:19:27] | wagnerrp: | but im talking about single users |
| [18:19:42] | skd5aner: | ah, al la carte? |
| [18:20:14] | sphery: | wagnerrp: he's selling to his neighborhood |
| [18:20:15] | wagnerrp: | yeah, could i just install a dish, lnb, some hardware, and license that content for personal use for $0.26/mo |
| [18:21:00] | skd5aner: | oh, I'm guessing your referincing an email or something |
| [18:21:22] | wagnerrp: | so he has basically set up his own cable company, based off a distributed mythtv install |
| [18:21:27] | sphery: | wagnerrp: pretty sure there's a min # of users for that rate |
| [18:21:32] | sphery: | yeah |
| [18:21:34] | jamesd2: | wagnerrp, thre is probably a mimum user blocks... like 50 user min.. |
| [18:21:55] | mazda01: | is there a way to clear mythvideo so that I can rescan? currently i have a bunch of movies in there before I did a mass rename and for some reason it didn't remove the movies that are no longer named that |
| [18:22:11] | wagnerrp: | mazda01: yes it did |
| [18:22:15] | mazda01: | this is on a frontend. I am using storage groups |
| [18:22:32] | wagnerrp: | if you are using 0.22, it would only not clear those entries if there was a file of that name in that path |
| [18:23:00] | wagnerrp: | if you are using 0.23, it would only not clear those entries if it found that exact file somewhere in one of the storage group paths |
| [18:23:28] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, example. previously I had movie called movie.1.avi and movie.2.avi so within mythvideo, the 2 entries are movie 1 and movie 2. well the files were renamed to movie[1].avi and movie[2].avi. shouldn't it have changed the thing |
| [18:23:54] | wagnerrp: | what version of mythtv are' you using? |
| [18:24:01] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, well the mythvideo name and the actual name of the movie file are different. |
| [18:24:06] | mazda01: | .23-fixes in lucid lynx |
| [18:24:27] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, from mythbuntu auto builds NOT trunk though |
| [18:24:39] | wagnerrp: | so theres your problem, it found the exact file under the new name |
| [18:24:49] | wagnerrp: | move those files outside of the scan path |
| [18:24:50] | wagnerrp: | rescan |
| [18:24:53] | wagnerrp: | and move them back in |
| [18:25:11] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i did rescan already. how can it find an exact file when the name changed. |
| [18:25:23] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, move what? |
| [18:25:36] | wagnerrp: | have you not been following the discussion in here just a couple minutes ago? |
| [18:25:37] | sphery: | hash |
| [18:25:42] | wagnerrp: | sphery++ |
| [18:26:00] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, no, i guess imissed it. |
| [18:26:11] | wagnerrp: | scroll back about 10 minutes |
| [18:26:27] | sphery: | mazda01: to clear everything you could just remove all but an empty dir from the storage group/video directory |
| [18:27:08] | wagnerrp: | wow... that was an hour ago you were asking for help |
| [18:27:15] | wagnerrp: | i thought that was like 20 minutes ago |
| [18:27:26] | mazda01: | sphery, what then do a scan? that would clear the movies from the table, then re-add the directories holding my movies, then rescan? |
| [18:27:42] | wagnerrp: | mazda01: mythvideo now hashes the files |
| [18:27:49] | wagnerrp: | and when you scan, and it finds files missing |
| [18:28:00] | wagnerrp: | it will try to match those missing files with any new found files through the hash |
| [18:28:04] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, i asked about an hour about renaming, i figured that out and then went outside to do something else. |
| [18:28:17] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, oh, i see. |
| [18:28:19] | wagnerrp: | when you renamed the files, it simply found them under the new name |
| [18:28:32] | wagnerrp: | so you have to temporarily move them somewhere that mythvideo cannot see |
| [18:28:44] | wagnerrp: | to let them be completely flushed |
| [18:28:57] | mazda01: | wagnerrp, understood. thanks so much for your help |
| [18:33:31] | skd5aner: | well, just found another segfault – I was doing something similiar to mazda01 (for different reasons), moved my video folders, recreated them empty, and rescanned. When the scan progress bar got to 100% – Segfault |
| [18:34:33] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: got a coredump? |
| [18:34:42] | wagnerrp: | there was a ticket a while back on trac about that |
| [18:34:53] | skd5aner: | unfortunately, no... I'm wondering how much effort it would be to recreate it... |
| [18:34:56] | wagnerrp: | but it was closed because the reporter never responded, and no one could reproduce it |
| [18:34:58] | skd5aner: | let me see if it's easily done |
| [18:35:25] | skd5aner: | any extra -v options you think would help? |
| [18:35:44] | skd5aner: | file,database ? |
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| [18:36:07] | wagnerrp: | if you can get a traceback, that should be all thats needed |
| [18:36:13] | skd5aner: | k |
| [18:36:18] | wagnerrp: | check your dump limits |
| [18:36:21] | wagnerrp: | it should be set to unlimited |
| [18:37:09] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: is that in gdbcommands? |
| [18:37:20] | wagnerrp: | i dont remember how to do that off hand |
| [18:38:49] | skd5aner: | let me see what I can come up with |
| [18:38:51] | sphery: | mazda01: yeah, empty dir, scan, add real dirs, rescan |
| [18:38:58] | skd5aner: | might not be able to replicate it |
| [18:40:00] | sphery: | ulimit for setting limits |
| [18:40:09] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
| [18:41:04] | ** sphery wishes that #8329 asked before implementing ** | |
| [18:41:33] | wagnerrp: | hehe |
| [18:41:43] | wagnerrp: | nothing like reimplementing tech from the 80s |
| [18:41:48] | sphery: | yeah |
| [18:42:04] | sphery: | had he done it like in the frontend, I wouldn't have a problem with it |
| [18:42:22] | sphery: | but his solution is much more cumbersome and tries to make mythbackend into a logrotate app |
| [18:42:53] | sphery: | If he changes the impl, I'll make sure it goes in. If he doesn't, I likely will. |
| [18:43:15] | sphery: | but I'd rather he do it since there are a lot of other things that are higher priority to me |
| [18:43:25] | skd5aner: | hmmm, never done the coredumps before, just backtraces – I need to do both to track this one down? |
| [18:43:37] | sphery: | as the backend logs are tiny--only the frontend logs get out of control (and only with bad video, generally) |
| [18:43:42] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: how do you do a backtrace without a coredump? |
| [18:43:50] | sphery: | skd5aner: just a backtrace, but you can use a coredump to get the backtrace |
| [18:44:05] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: I've never done it that way? |
| [18:44:18] | wagnerrp: | sphery: speak for yourself |
| [18:44:20] | sphery: | otherwise, just connect gdb to mythfrontend and grab the trace when it segfaults |
| [18:44:33] | wagnerrp: | i got a couple dozen megs of backend logs last tuesday |
| [18:44:36] | skd5aner: | sphery: that's the way I've always done it |
| [18:44:40] | sphery: | wagnerrp: megs... |
| [18:44:49] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I'm talking gigs = out of control :) |
| [18:44:50] | skd5aner: | sphery: didn't know if this extra step was necessary |
| [18:44:58] | wagnerrp: | for an entire hour, ~20 times per second |
| [18:45:04] | sphery: | skd5aner: 2 different approaches |
| [18:45:12] | wagnerrp: | the backend printing the program table, and complaining that it could not find CBS in it |
| [18:45:13] | sphery: | wagnerrp: from bad video? |
| [18:45:20] | sphery: | ahhh |
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| [18:45:27] | sphery: | time for a rescan? |
| [18:45:32] | wagnerrp: | oddly, no |
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| [18:45:38] | wagnerrp: | no idea what the problem is |
| [18:45:43] | sphery: | time to kick the CBS transmitter |
| [18:45:46] | wagnerrp: | i checked later that night and could record CBS just fine |
| [18:45:48] | sphery: | (or engineer?) |
| [18:46:13] | wagnerrp: | is it possible the cableco switched the channel location for a single episode? |
| [18:46:28] | wagnerrp: | or maybe encrypted it for no good reason? |
| [18:46:31] | sphery: | I had a 6GiB frontend log after running LiveTV for 20hrs or so--when I had the audio output otherwise occupied |
| [18:46:37] | sphery: | gave constant stream of audio errors |
| [18:46:44] | sphery: | that's out of control |
| [18:46:59] | sphery: | my backend logs are always in the hundreds of megabytes range tops |
| [18:47:14] | sphery: | of course, I'm not using stupid verbose levels, either |
| [18:47:23] | sphery: | (like many users seem to be doing--even without realizing it) |
| [18:47:41] | sphery: | not to say you are--as an error is typically printed at -v important,general |
| [18:48:10] | tink: | i need to do a rebuild on my production systems, hows the latest RC looking? |
| [18:48:16] | tink is now known as meshe | |
| [18:48:19] | sphery: | better than 0.22-fixes |
| [18:48:31] | ** sphery needs to catch up on The Guild ** | |
| [18:48:43] | sphery: | meshe: I recommend 0.23-fixes over 0.22-fixes |
| [18:48:51] | meshe: | thanks sphery |
| [18:48:51] | sphery: | (don't do the rc, do the real 0.23-fixes branch) |
| [18:49:14] | meshe: | any idea if that's what mythbuntu is building off of? |
| [18:49:30] | sphery: | yeah, daily builds are -fixes |
| [18:49:35] | meshe: | sweet |
| [18:49:37] | sphery: | http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds |
| [18:50:35] | meshe: | another boot drive died again |
| [18:51:49] | skd5aner: | Awesome – can't replicate the segfault :P |
| [18:51:55] | skd5aner: | sorry guys, I tried |
| [18:52:11] | sphery: | well, we appreciate the effort, nonetheless |
| [18:52:43] | sphery: | it may well be one of the known issues with disappearing things that are selected |
| [18:52:48] | sphery: | due to mythui issues |
| [18:53:00] | skd5aner: | I'll look on the upside, it gives the devs more time to look at the other backtrace I submitted this morning :) |
| [18:53:01] | sphery: | if so, a new bt wouldn't be useful, anyway |
| [18:53:07] | sphery: | heh |
| [18:53:27] | sphery: | yeah, one looked like OSD breakage--where the OSD is being thrown out |
| [18:53:33] | sphery: | the other seemed to be in the decoder stuff |
| [18:53:55] | skd5aner: | my tickets? |
| [18:54:18] | sphery: | yeah |
| [18:54:32] | sphery: | gdb.a is the one that will likely be fixed, if either |
| [18:54:53] | skd5aner: | yea – I know 7709's been closed for a while, but still wanted to report back that the problem didn't transcend into .23 |
| [18:55:02] | sphery: | any chance you could try playing back the same video you played in gdb.a.txt in current SVN trunk of ffplay? |
| [18:55:08] | skd5aner: | ah, the two different backtraces... |
| [18:55:21] | skd5aner: | sphery: I knew someone was going to ask that... lol |
| [18:55:30] | sphery: | yeah, 7709 update is appreciated, too--if nothing else, it gives other users who find it hope/a plan |
| [18:55:36] | sphery: | heh :) |
| [18:55:46] | skd5aner: | sphery: honestly, I'd like to but current ffpmpeg trunk doesn't like nuvexport too well |
| [18:56:25] | sphery: | is the linked file you uploaded the one from a? |
| [18:56:41] | skd5aner: | Uploading the other now, and then I'll tell you for sure |
| [18:57:45] | sphery: | 2010-04–10 11:03:16.906 Set video sync frame interval to 66666 <- wonder if it's related to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8189 |
| [18:58:29] | sphery: | hmmm... a is also OSD-related |
| [18:58:36] | sphery: | #3 0x00007ffff75d1f7a in OSD::SetFrameInterval (this=0x46a7710, frint=66666) at osd.cpp:211 |
| [18:59:05] | wagnerrp: | sphery: if you have two users watching the same show on livetv as is currently being recorded by a rule, it wont automatically use the recording will it? |
| [18:59:25] | wagnerrp: | s/two users/a user/ |
| [18:59:49] | sphery: | yeah, I don't think it's related to #8189 |
| [18:59:59] | sphery: | wagnerrp: nope |
| [19:00:05] | sphery: | livetv is locked to a card |
| [19:00:12] | sphery: | (input, technically) |
| [19:00:17] | sphery: | so you'd record 2 copies |
| [19:00:21] | skd5aner: | sphery: updated #8326... |
| [19:00:25] | sphery: | that way there's no problem when one changes channel |
| [19:00:32] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [19:00:59] | sphery: | and we don't end up switching to the less-prefferred input (i.e. one that's remote) just because the local guy changes channel first |
| [19:01:13] | sphery: | wagnerrp: some guy on the list is rewriting it to do it the other way |
| [19:01:17] | sphery: | I'm not a fan of the plan |
| [19:01:44] | skd5aner: | the non "a" files go with MVI_1141 and the ".a." files go with MVI_0613 |
| [19:01:56] | wagnerrp: | just writing up a response to someone wanting to do a commercial mythtv installation on mythtvtalk |
| [19:03:13] | sphery: | wagnerrp: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/424819#424819 |
| [19:04:18] | skd5aner: | stepping away for a while |
| [19:04:22] | sphery: | wagnerrp: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/424710#424710 (note that they're implementing on 0.21-fixes) |
| [19:04:28] | sphery: | skd5aner: thanks for the updated link |
| [19:04:58] | skd5aner: | np – happy to provide more details if needed |
| [19:05:31] | sphery: | the ffplay thing probably isn't even necessary if it's OSD code |
| [19:05:36] | sphery: | so I think we have all we need, now |
| [19:16:00] | ** mag0o ponders getting a revo now that the big tv is in the living room ** | |
| [19:25:46] | trumee: | is there a way to delete the whole tv series in one go instead of deleting indivdiualr recordings |
| [19:25:56] | wagnerrp: | add the series to a playlist |
| [19:25:59] | wagnerrp: | delete the playlist |
| [19:26:46] | trumee: | how do i add all the recordings in a playlist? |
| [19:27:02] | wagnerrp: | hit 'm', its one of the options |
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| [19:27:23] | trumee: | ah, got it |
| [19:27:25] | trumee: | thanks |
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| [19:32:50] | KungFuJesus: | So I just tried to scan for changes with myth video and suddenly got a bunch of duplicate entries |
| [19:32:58] | KungFuJesus: | anybody have any idea what that could be? |
| [19:33:14] | wagnerrp: | you have both storage groups and local folders defined |
| [19:33:34] | KungFuJesus: | the default storage group is /myth/ and /myth2 |
| [19:33:51] | KungFuJesus: | the mythvideo directory is /myth/video |
| [19:33:55] | KungFuJesus: | it didn't do it until just today |
| [19:34:21] | wagnerrp: | the 'Default' storage group is for recordings |
| [19:34:26] | KungFuJesus: | correct |
| [19:34:27] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo uses the 'Videos' storage group |
| [19:34:31] | KungFuJesus: | I have no video storage group |
| [19:34:34] | KungFuJesus: | whatsoever |
| [19:34:44] | wagnerrp: | then you simply have duplicate files |
| [19:34:59] | KungFuJesus: | lol, that's definitely not the case |
| [19:35:03] | wagnerrp: | or you are using an old pre-release version of 0.22 |
| [19:35:19] | KungFuJesus: | let me go to information |
| [19:35:20] | wagnerrp: | and have scanned twice, without leaving mythvideo and letting it refresh its internal table |
| [19:35:48] | KungFuJesus: | frontend is 23069 |
| [19:36:07] | wagnerrp: | of what branch? |
| [19:36:08] | sphery: | wagnerrp: heh, seems danielk wasn't afraid to make it official that it /must/ be done with SIGHUP, like the frontend does. |
| [19:36:31] | wagnerrp: | sphery: the backend allows SIGHUP as well |
| [19:36:40] | wagnerrp: | i dont see any use for anything that ticket does |
| [19:36:47] | KungFuJesus: | p23069 is the branch it seems to be pulling from when it builds |
| [19:36:56] | wagnerrp: | no, that is the revision |
| [19:36:59] | sphery: | wagnerrp: for reopening files? there's no sighup handler in mythbackend? |
| [19:37:07] | KungFuJesus: | hold on, let me open the ebuild |
| [19:37:14] | wagnerrp: | sphery: im saying there is a sighup handler in the backend |
| [19:37:19] | wagnerrp: | and if there is one in the frontend as well |
| [19:37:22] | sphery: | there's no code for it |
| [19:37:26] | wagnerrp: | i dont see anything more than needs to be done |
| [19:37:29] | sphery: | only in the frontend |
| [19:37:37] | wagnerrp: | oh? works fine for me... somehow... |
| [19:37:57] | sphery: | weird... |
| [19:38:13] | sphery: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . end/main.cpp search for HUP and log_rotate_handler() |
| [19:38:17] | sphery: | none in http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . end/main.cpp |
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| [19:38:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | mythbackend has a sighup handler in main_helper.cpp unless Daniel just added that in the past week. |
| [19:38:35] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [19:38:53] | Captain_Murdoch: | main_helpers.cpp that is. :) |
| [19:38:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | more than one helper. |
| [19:38:59] | KungFuJesus: | wagnerrp: I can't find any info from which branch it's pulling it from |
| [19:39:08] | sphery: | yep, there it is |
| [19:39:21] | KungFuJesus: | in any case, is there a simple way to fix this? |
| [19:39:58] | wagnerrp: | KungFuJesus: move your videos elsewhere temporarily, and rescan to flush all existing content |
| [19:40:02] | KungFuJesus: | what I don't get is why it just started doing this today |
| [19:40:32] | wagnerrp: | the above issue was the only one i ever recall that could cause that situation |
| [19:40:33] | KungFuJesus: | well I have a database backup job that was run last night |
| [19:40:41] | wagnerrp: | and it was resolved before 0.22 was released |
| [19:40:46] | KungFuJesus: | I'm just not entirely sure how to restore from it with mythconverg_restore.pl |
| [19:40:54] | sphery: | wagnerrp: oh, and thanks to you, too... just meant that Captain_Murdoch provided the info on the location... |
| [19:41:02] | sphery: | (in my ticket update) |
| [19:41:18] | ** sphery might be able to help with any mythconverg_restore.pl questions ** | |
| [19:41:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | not often I get a credit for "grep -i sighup *.cpp". :) |
| [19:42:09] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: heh, well, it's more than I did |
| [19:42:09] | ** wagnerrp needs no thanks, only more tasty goldfish ** | |
| [19:42:23] | sphery: | so long and thanks for all the goldfish |
| [19:42:32] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: I didn't feel like booting my dev box to grep |
| [19:42:38] | sphery: | so I just looked at main.cpp |
| [19:43:16] | KungFuJesus: | how would I restore specifically the mythvideo data from a mythconverg backup? |
| [19:43:25] | sphery: | ah, that's not supported |
| [19:43:34] | KungFuJesus: | :( |
| [19:43:38] | sphery: | your best bet is to clear it out and re-metadata them |
| [19:43:43] | wagnerrp: | with considerable sql skill, and knowledge of the mythvideo schema |
| [19:43:53] | KungFuJesus: | uhg, that takes an eternity to do |
| [19:43:58] | sphery: | jamu? |
| [19:44:03] | wagnerrp: | 'w'? |
| [19:44:11] | KungFuJesus: | w on 500 videos |
| [19:44:16] | wagnerrp: | yep |
| [19:44:18] | wagnerrp: | its threaded |
| [19:44:19] | sphery: | jamu once? |
| [19:44:26] | wagnerrp: | press, rinse, repeat |
| [19:44:37] | KungFuJesus: | not to mention if the filename doesn't match the movie very well, jamu can't do it |
| [19:44:40] | wagnerrp: | should take less than 10 minutes |
| [19:44:50] | wagnerrp: | fix your filenames? |
| [19:45:10] | KungFuJesus: | I don't want to do it hundreds of times |
| [19:45:21] | KungFuJesus: | it's still a very manual process either way |
| [19:45:24] | sphery: | well, name them properly when you rip them |
| [19:45:33] | sphery: | because we know, of course, /you/ ripped them yourself |
| [19:45:34] | KungFuJesus: | yeah...when I...rip them |
| [19:45:35] | KungFuJesus: | sure |
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| [19:45:48] | sphery: | and if you steal them, you'll get no sympathy from us |
| [19:45:49] | wagnerrp: | dont be coy about illegal activities |
| [19:46:04] | sphery: | go out and buy them and rip them right |
| [19:46:40] | KungFuJesus: | how I get the movie makes no difference to the fact that this may be a bug |
| [19:46:48] | KungFuJesus: | what exactly caused it to happen? |
| [19:46:54] | sphery: | you're using an old MythTV |
| [19:46:59] | sphery: | and you misconfigured it |
| [19:47:11] | sphery: | and you should configure it properly /and/ update to current? |
| [19:47:25] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythvideo |
| [19:47:27] | KungFuJesus: | that involves haggling the maintainer of the ebuild :( |
| [19:47:29] | wagnerrp: | how you got the movie makes all the difference to whether youre going to get help in here |
| [19:47:44] | wagnerrp: | the ebuild does nothing but install mythvideo |
| [19:47:49] | wagnerrp: | it does exactly no configuring |
| [19:47:56] | KungFuJesus: | what have I configured wrong? |
| [19:48:01] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo |
| [19:48:04] | sphery: | If you choose not to use Storage Groups then simply don't define any of the above mentioned Storage Groups and set up your directories for videos and artwork on each individual frontend. |
| [19:48:13] | sphery: | and v.v. |
| [19:48:14] | KungFuJesus: | I have |
| [19:48:48] | KungFuJesus: | only two frontends actually have mythvideo installed period, and the only storage group in existance is the "default" one |
| [19:49:00] | wagnerrp: | you have two frontends.... |
| [19:49:06] | wagnerrp: | did you have both of them in mythvideo |
| [19:49:10] | wagnerrp: | and both of them ran a scan? |
| [19:49:12] | sphery: | then you have the videos in different locations on the different hosts? |
| [19:49:26] | KungFuJesus: | the other hasn't really had a scan in a long time, but they have different frontend identifiers |
| [19:49:34] | sphery: | or, wait, does MV now have hostname in there, too? |
| [19:49:46] | wagnerrp: | sphery: only for storagegroup content |
| [19:49:51] | sphery: | hmm |
| [19:49:54] | wagnerrp: | local content does not use that |
| [19:50:20] | wagnerrp: | there are only three things that could have done this |
| [19:50:24] | KungFuJesus: | I can stop the backend on the other machine entirely for the sake of diagnostics |
| [19:50:33] | wagnerrp: | two instances of the file in logically different locations (and prior to 0.23) |
| [19:51:02] | wagnerrp: | scanning mythvideo with an old copy of the local table, so it added the content twice |
| [19:51:08] | wagnerrp: | or tinkering outside of mythtv |
| [19:51:45] | wagnerrp: | the first issue has been fixed |
| [19:51:50] | KungFuJesus: | well there wasn't any tinkering, the copy of the table is definitely current as far as I knew (all of the content was there before the new scan) |
| [19:51:59] | wagnerrp: | the second issue has been partially fixed for the common scenario (of one frontend) |
| [19:52:27] | wagnerrp: | and the uncommon scenario (multiple frontends performing a scan at the same time) should be taken care of automatically when the scan is moved into the backend |
| [19:52:46] | KungFuJesus: | I wish there was some sort of hash indentifier or filename parameter that I could turn on in the frontend to point to it |
| [19:52:46] | wagnerrp: | either way, there is no fix to be performed for this issue in the code |
| [19:53:22] | wagnerrp: | man... that hash thing is getting brought up a lot today |
| [19:53:25] | KungFuJesus: | new mythvideo doesn't even display the filenames anymore |
| [19:53:51] | wagnerrp: | old mythvideo didnt display the filenames either |
| [19:54:04] | KungFuJesus: | it did the mythvideo database manager |
| [19:54:13] | KungFuJesus: | or at least as many characters as it could of it, lol |
| [19:54:26] | wagnerrp: | so change to the video manager view |
| [19:54:43] | KungFuJesus: | I'll try |
| [19:56:34] | KungFuJesus: | so the dupes both point to the same path, just one seems to have populated video metadata, while the other is just empty |
| [19:57:11] | Beirdo: | stupid spammer |
| [19:57:26] | Beirdo: | enjoy yer k-line, tard |
| [19:57:42] | wagnerrp: | bit slow on the response there |
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| [19:57:47] | wagnerrp: | that was like 4 hours ago |
| [19:58:02] | Beirdo: | yeah well, I just got home |
| [19:58:05] | KungFuJesus: | using some sql magic I could probably drop the dupes by looking for entries that have the filename twice where the video number is 00000 |
| [19:58:08] | Beirdo: | and tard highlighted me :) |
| [19:58:36] | wagnerrp: | yeah, he did everyone |
| [19:58:49] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [19:58:57] | KungFuJesus: | anybody know any easy query to do this? |
| [19:59:54] | KungFuJesus: | also, it turns out that I had to flush connections, the sql server was clobbered by a backend probably |
| [19:59:57] | KungFuJesus: | could that have caused the issue? |
| [20:11:15] | KungFuJesus: | SELECT filename, COUNT(*) FROM `mythconverg`.`videometadata` GROUP by `filename` HAVING COUNT(*) > 1; |
| [20:11:20] | KungFuJesus: | so that returned about 100 rows |
| [20:11:23] | KungFuJesus: | 1600* |
| [20:13:14] | Beirdo: | sphery: nice one on #8327 :) |
| [20:13:37] | Beirdo: | not sure how we'd be fitting the copyright onto an LCD anyways |
| [20:13:44] | sphery: | heh, yeah |
| [20:16:09] | KungFuJesus: | gah, I'm not this clever with SQL |
| [20:16:59] | KungFuJesus: | how would I find duplicates for a given field, and then of those duplicates, delete the entries with an inetref of 0? |
| [20:17:35] | sphery: | KungFuJesus: direct DB editing isn't supported, either |
| [20:18:05] | sphery: | just clear all your entries (scan where the only dirs are empty/non-existent), then start over |
| [20:18:07] | KungFuJesus: | gah, I really don't want these duplicate entries |
| [20:18:10] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: just have a scroller, or something that flips between multiple data points including one of the copywrite |
| [20:18:24] | KungFuJesus: | *sigh* it took like 4 years to build this thing up |
| [20:18:33] | sphery: | and, that's as much help as you'll get from me... I choose not to help people who have stolen videos. |
| [20:19:13] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: I guess so. |
| [20:19:30] | Beirdo: | anyways, feature requests -> wiki |
| [20:19:53] | KungFuJesus: | well that's a bit prejudice :( |
| [20:20:19] | wagnerrp: | how do you figure? |
| [20:20:21] | sphery: | Not in my opinion.\ |
| [20:20:45] | sphery: | If you're so important you can steal them instead of paying for them, I'm not going to make it any easier on you. |
| [20:21:11] | sphery: | If you fail to do the work to earn the money to buy the videos legally, you can at least jump through hoops trying to make the stolen videos work for yourself. |
| [20:21:34] | sphery: | nothing's free in life :) |
| [20:21:50] | KungFuJesus: | it's not like this is a problem unique to scene ripped video, anybody could have named their files in a stupid or conventional way or even proper way and still have this problem |
| [20:22:08] | KungFuJesus: | the solutions just aren't as straight forward when the filenames have crap appended to them |
| [20:22:20] | wagnerrp: | why do you have crap appended to your filenames? |
| [20:22:39] | KungFuJesus: | regardless of why, it's a question of how |
| [20:23:03] | KungFuJesus: | what is going on that suddenly of the blue this problem arose |
| [20:23:55] | sphery: | KungFuJesus: basically, it comes down to the fact that you're using an unsupported file naming convention |
| [20:23:56] | wagnerrp: | we gave you several things that could have caused this |
| [20:24:14] | sphery: | KungFuJesus: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing |
| [20:24:19] | KungFuJesus: | sphery: that's not true at all, you can change the names in the database, which I had done thus far |
| [20:24:22] | wagnerrp: | for supported formats... sphery beat me to the link |
| [20:24:28] | sphery: | and we know /why/ you're using that convention, so we don't care to help you |
| [20:24:30] | wagnerrp: | curse you and your ability to copy-paste |
| [20:24:36] | KungFuJesus: | it's just not supported to easily have it automated with jamu |
| [20:24:41] | sphery: | heh... I /finally/ got one faster than you |
| [20:24:50] | sphery: | no, it's unsupported |
| [20:24:56] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing |
| [20:25:10] | sphery: | I.e. MythTV has no code to help file thieves |
| [20:25:36] | sphery: | if you want easy file handling, use a supported file naming scheme |
| [20:25:38] | KungFuJesus: | nobody is asking for that |
| [20:25:47] | wagnerrp: | you are right now |
| [20:26:23] | KungFuJesus: | I'm not asking for that at all, I understand that with garbage file names there comes the price of modifying the entries by hand so that mythvideo can lookup metadata |
| [20:26:33] | KungFuJesus: | and I have done this up until this point without any issue, I get that |
| [20:26:37] | wagnerrp: | and youre asking for help on how to fix it |
| [20:26:47] | KungFuJesus: | what I'm sad about is that the solution is to wipe the existing entries and do it all over |
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| [20:27:50] | KungFuJesus: | and that there's no supported way to fix it by modifying the database by hand. Which that's fine if you don't want to help me with my SQL syntax, I understand that there is a lot that can go wrong and the QT code around the database is written to be hidden from the user |
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| [20:29:20] | KungFuJesus: | I wish there was a method to pull back in specific data from the backup that was simple. Otherwise there is a lot of SQL to read through |
| [20:30:27] | KungFuJesus: | but for all this, there is no reason to chastise me. We can be self-righteous and express how we feel about what industry and right and wrong all we want, none of it is relevant to the problem |
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| [20:33:50] | KungFuJesus: | believe me, I'm not asking for a central database of scene rip filenames. I don't expect any effort to be devoted to turning mythtv into that kind of platform |
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| [20:44:11] | wagnerrp: | i dont understand why you couldnt just rename the files |
| [20:49:01] | Beirdo: | stubbornness? |
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| [21:12:33] | KungFuJesus: | nah, at the time of seeding it required filename matching, but now it's an issue of the manual labor still involved with a massive renaming. But it did it with everything, including legit podcast files |
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| [21:14:19] | dewman: | Here is a simple bash script to rename.... =) http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1859130 |
| [21:15:31] | KungFuJesus: | dewman: that may be helpful |
| [21:15:32] | KungFuJesus: | thanks |
| [21:15:40] | dewman: | KungFuJesus, Your welcome.... |
| [21:16:55] | wagnerrp: | files in unix can have multiple file names |
| [21:17:30] | KungFuJesus: | no extra symlinks or hard links that I can see, it's an NFS mount |
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| [21:21:57] | KungFuJesus: | oh you were suggesting symlinks |
| [21:22:06] | KungFuJesus: | yeah, that can get icky maintaining though |
| [21:23:28] | bjd: | Yo |
| [21:23:51] | bjd: | in theory, I could setup up rsync to run mythcommflag after I've rsync'ed a file right? |
| [21:25:09] | bjd: | ah, nice – post-xfer exec |
| [21:25:40] | KungFuJesus: | for the sake of simplicity I'll probably just practice a few SQL queries to eliminate the duplicates and see if it "finds" them again |
| [21:26:13] | KungFuJesus: | b/c technically all it does to see if the db entry is missing is check the path for the filename to see if it exists. Which is why the duplicate videos aren't disappearing |
| [21:27:46] | KungFuJesus: | intid is auto incrementing, right? |
| [21:27:59] | tgm4883: | bjd, why would you need to do that? wouldn't the file need to be in the DB for mythcommflag to do anything with it? And if it was already in the DB, why are you A) rsyncing it and B) running mythcommflag on it |
| [21:28:12] | tgm4883: | (actually B would make sense if you didn't commflag it earlier) |
| [21:28:30] | KungFuJesus: | yeah, looks like it auto increments. So I'll just pick the intid which is lower to keep |
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| [21:29:24] | bjd: | tgm4883: it's coming from an external source so the file wouldn't be in the db so having to mythcommflag it |
| [21:30:42] | russk: | how come when I run "cairo-dock" on my desktop, with OpenGL enabled, my mythfrontend then is transparent and no video when I watch TV ? |
| [21:31:02] | tgm4883: | bjd, i'm not sure what happens if you mythcommflag a file that mythtv doesn't know about. I don't know if it would add it to the DB |
| [21:31:29] | bjd: | let me look in teh db now |
| [21:31:59] | bjd: | but running it with --video lets me skip whereas i couldn't before |
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| [21:32:33] | bjd: | oh, and with --rebuild |
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| [21:32:49] | ** bjd is refering to the seektable ** | |
| [21:33:12] | tgm4883: | bjd, I still think it would have to be in the db first, I could be wrong though |
| [21:33:19] | tgm4883: | you might have to do an orphan search first |
| [21:33:52] | tgm4883: | bjd, maybe use http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Myth.find_orphans.pl |
| [21:34:17] | bjd: | i think you are missing the point |
| [21:34:42] | bjd: | oh wait, just reading that article |
| [21:35:10] | bjd: | thats for recorded related stuff and this is specifically for stuff that isn't recorded tho |
| [21:37:52] | tgm4883: | so it's something for mythvideo? |
| [21:37:59] | bjd: | ye |
| [21:38:06] | tgm4883: | ah |
| [21:38:38] | tgm4883: | then I misunderstood what you are trying to do |
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| [21:38:55] | tgm4883: | out of curiosity, why are you running mythcommflag on things for mythvideo? |
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| [21:39:15] | bjd: | i was having issues when fast forwarding and stuff |
| [21:39:25] | wagnerrp: | so you want to build the seektable |
| [21:39:30] | wagnerrp: | rather than the full commflagger |
| [21:39:52] | bjd: | yeah, hence --video --rebuild |
| [21:40:05] | tgm4883: | thats right, sorry forgot about that part |
| [21:40:15] | bjd: | anyway, post-xfer exec does the job nicely |
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| [22:27:30] | wagnerrp: | wow... theyre making an A-Team movie |
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| [22:31:09] | bjd: | i love it when a plan comes together |
| [22:31:15] | bjd: | sorry, i'll get my coat |
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| [22:32:29] | wagnerrp: | and 'Tyler Perrys Current Random Movie' |
| [22:32:49] | wagnerrp: | seriously... nothing puts me off of something more than someone involved needing to plaster their name all over it |
| [22:36:13] | sphery: | funny that all the "biggest MythTV setup" people have been quoting storage in the (usually very low) TB range |
| [22:36:26] | sphery: | none have hit double digits, yet |
| [22:36:33] | sphery: | biggest I've seen was 6.5TB |
| [22:36:43] | sphery: | iamlindoro could school them with his 22TB |
| [22:38:03] | sphery: | surprised http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/389453#389453 hasn't spoken up... "We'll I'm build the worlds most advanced MythTV System – I know that's a huge statement but when I'm finished – its going to be unbelievable. Some parts are still "secret" as they have never been done before and I want to be the first." |
| [22:38:20] | sphery: | "The next phase of this project is so mad, I can't even mention it :)" |
| [22:41:13] | edomeda: | I have a 6TB RAID5 + 1TB (ext usb), didn't figure that was very large myself. |
| [22:41:21] | wagnerrp: | its not particularly |
| [22:41:28] | edomeda: | already got plans to expand it. :) |
| [22:41:36] | wagnerrp: | both sphery and i have at least that much space |
| [22:42:09] | wagnerrp: | and likely at least another 20 users currently logged into the channel |
| [22:42:29] | wagnerrp: | 10+TB is not particularly uncommon |
| [22:42:29] | edomeda: | well he just had said "biggest I've seen was 6.5TB" |
| [22:42:37] | wagnerrp: | and 20+TB is not unheard of |
| [22:42:47] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: theres a thread on the mailing list |
| [22:42:58] | wagnerrp: | so people can discuss their e-penis |
| [22:43:09] | edomeda: | I just got mine this week, moving my 240 DVDs over now.... slow process |
| [22:43:42] | wagnerrp: | even raw, thats only about a quarter of that space |
| [22:43:44] | edomeda: | pfft, don't care about size. I'm just trying to get my dvd collection working. All of them are region encoded and I move to a different region |
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| [22:44:06] | edomeda: | 240 * 8 about 2TB, but that's just max of course |
| [22:44:17] | wagnerrp: | ah, youre taking the full ISO |
| [22:44:21] | edomeda: | yep |
| [22:44:23] | wagnerrp: | rather than just the movie |
| [22:44:30] | edomeda: | I want the extras |
| [22:44:54] | edomeda: | I started with isos a long time ago, so don't really feel like re-ripping everything |
| [22:45:02] | wagnerrp: | 'big' doesnt usually start until you get into HD content |
| [22:45:08] | edomeda: | I've been trying to get isos working with 0.23, but storage groups are broken atm |
| [22:45:22] | edomeda: | I have a dual hvr-2200 with 15 HD channels. :) |
| [22:45:35] | wagnerrp: | that will fill things up nice and fast |
| [22:46:05] | edomeda: | still trying to get better signal on that though. My tv is much better at getting all 15 channels, I can only get one or two multiplexes atm |
| [22:46:30] | edomeda: | on the hvr-2200. But I'm using a indoor amplified antenna because it's a rented house |
| [22:46:30] | KungFuJesus: | wagnerrp: yay, I found a fix. Pretty simple actually, and I feel dumb for not thinking of it |
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| [22:47:04] | KungFuJesus: | since intid is autoascending, I just found where the keys started to have duplicate entries, and just did a delete statement where the intid was greater than that number |
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| [22:48:53] | KungFuJesus: | my mythtv config has 2.5TB of non-redundant storage for recordings |
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| [22:49:12] | KungFuJesus: | videos are stored in a 7 TB RAIDz1 NAS I setup |
| [22:49:52] | KungFuJesus: | I'm OTA only, so 2.5TB truly is plenty, takes about 5 months of not deleting anything that isn't auto-expiring already before it's filled |
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| [22:50:37] | KungFuJesus: | one thing I've noticed, and I may be wrong here, mythweb when "Deleting" marks things to just auto-expire instead of actually deleting them. Whereas the actual interface deletes files |
| [22:51:06] | edomeda: | can anyone help me out with said isos? I'm trying to get mythvideo to work, I put a bunch in /var/lib/mythtv/videos, scanned for changes, but only get a bunch of "?" in my gallery view. They also don't play even though I have the FE configured for my mount point (NFS) |
| [22:51:08] | KungFuJesus: | is that correct? |
| [22:51:16] | wagnerrp: | KungFuJesus: not at all |
| [22:51:28] | wagnerrp: | both just make a call to the backend to delete them |
| [22:51:33] | KungFuJesus: | hmm, weird. B/c the status page sits there with "space free after auto expire" |
| [22:51:54] | KungFuJesus: | and that's where all the gigabytes seem to queue up when I massively delete my recordings |
| [22:51:59] | wagnerrp: | there is an option to tell the backend to move 'deleted' recordings to the Deleted group |
| [22:52:13] | KungFuJesus: | well, you know my stance on storage groups, lol |
| [22:52:13] | wagnerrp: | which are then at the top of the list for auto-expire |
| [22:52:25] | wagnerrp: | has nothing to do with storage groups |
| [22:52:39] | KungFuJesus: | oh, there's just a storage group to define where that goes |
| [22:52:40] | KungFuJesus: | I see |
| [22:52:54] | wagnerrp: | no, its a recording group |
| [22:53:02] | wagnerrp: | completely independent of storage groups |
| [22:53:09] | KungFuJesus: | ah, so it's actually possible to "undelete" a recording? |
| [22:53:28] | wagnerrp: | if you have that setting enabled |
| [22:53:30] | wagnerrp: | it is not by default |
| [22:53:38] | KungFuJesus: | hmm, not sure how it would get there, then |
| [22:53:46] | KungFuJesus: | weird |
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| [22:54:04] | lucidblue: | hey all, anyone know if there's some way to keep flash videos (like hulu) in fullscreen mode on a dual monitor linux setup? |
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| [22:55:24] | KungFuJesus: | well that can't be the case, b/c I think I'd see the group on the watch recordings dialog |
| [22:56:03] | KungFuJesus: | lucidblue: I don't think there is a way, when you remove focus from the fullscreened video in flash it automatically returns it to its window |
| [22:56:17] | edomeda: | hum, I've got two sets of "videos" with duplicate results now. :-/ |
| [22:56:35] | KungFuJesus: | edomeda: lolz, I just had a similar issue |
| [22:56:42] | KungFuJesus: | edomeda: what distro are you using? |
| [22:56:50] | edomeda: | mythbuntu, 0.23 |
| [22:57:25] | KungFuJesus: | hmm, your issue may be separate than mine, there's suspision mine was from a previously existing bug that was patched a while ago |
| [22:57:31] | edomeda: | but I'm trying to play isos, so I'm guessing I need to disable my BE storage groups since it doesn't have working iso support... |
| [22:58:09] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: if you have two sets of videos, its likely from defining both storage groups and local content for the same path |
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| [22:58:13] | KungFuJesus: | ah, yeah you have the much more common instance of this |
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| [22:58:56] | KungFuJesus: | the storage group for videos was added to give other frontends the ability to stream local content without NFS, wasn't it? |
| [22:59:05] | wagnerrp: | s/local/remote/ |
| [22:59:33] | KungFuJesus: | that's what I meant. Local to the backend, remote to the remote hosts |
| [22:59:38] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [22:59:38] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Though Mythvideo scanning will just ignore the local dir if they're the same path |
| [22:59:43] | edomeda: | I'd love to use them, rather not have to NFS mount on every FE, but can't do isos on them yet |
| [22:59:51] | wagnerrp: | well in that case... i dont know what your problem would be |
| [23:00:23] | iamlindoro: | having used mythweb scanning, having two mountpoints with the same content but different paths, etc. |
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| [23:00:38] | edomeda: | ok, so it must be your suggestion, I need to disable/change video storage groups... |
| [23:00:51] | KungFuJesus: | I don't mind the NFS mounting to be honest. I think if the pathnames are the same you can even recycle the metadata |
| [23:01:19] | edomeda: | well my metadata is all broken/missing atm, they all show "?" with unknown info on every single iso |
| [23:01:31] | edomeda: | I tried changing the grabber, no help |
| [23:02:04] | KungFuJesus: | all of mine was damn near pulled in by hand, that was a daunting task when my NFS mount suddenly went down and I had to re-enter all that metadata |
| [23:02:05] | edomeda: | where can I change/turn off storage groups? |
| [23:02:12] | KungFuJesus: | mythtv-setup I think |
| [23:02:22] | edomeda: | oh, it's a BE setting |
| [23:02:25] | KungFuJesus: | that's where you set them up, anyway |
| [23:02:27] | KungFuJesus: | yeah |
| [23:02:27] | wagnerrp: | correct, just delete all entries in the 'Videos' group |
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| [23:03:09] | edomeda: | will using the NFS mode work for other vidoes, flv,mp4,avi,etc? |
| [23:03:15] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [23:03:25] | edomeda: | cool, not much of an issue then. |
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| [23:03:43] | KungFuJesus: | wagnerrp: after removing all the dupes and rescanning, I don't have duplicate entries. I still have no idea what may have caused this to happen |
| [23:03:55] | lucidblue: | KungFuJesus: Thanks... I've changed my setup to work as 2 seperate screens and share the keyboard and mouse... the only thing I'm doing is moving the mouse from one screen to the other and it auto senses that, maybe it immediatley loses focus and so shrinks? |
| [23:04:10] | edomeda: | just wish NFS wasn't so unforgiving. I'm using intr and soft, but still causes many problems if the wifi link goes down and has to reconnect |
| [23:04:12] | KungFuJesus: | if you have sloppy focus it definitely will |
| [23:04:38] | KungFuJesus: | edomeda: yeah, I use wired links for myth stuff, packet loss is not acceptable when streaming content |
| [23:05:03] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: storage groups wont solve that problem |
| [23:05:13] | KungFuJesus: | lucidblue: if you don't click in the other window and don't have sloppy focus, it should be ok |
| [23:05:25] | lucidblue: | I don't but I think just the process of traversing screens must at least 'remove' focus from the app, even though no other thing is selected... |
| [23:05:27] | KungFuJesus: | assuming you want to read something while watching a video, but you can't change the focus of the window |
| [23:05:28] | wagnerrp: | mythtv simply isnt designed for unreliable networks |
| [23:05:34] | edomeda: | I've actually been amazed, I did lots of 1080p streaming last night over 802.11n on my eeebox atom330/ion, and it was perfect |
| [23:05:40] | wagnerrp: | and wireless will be unreliable |
| [23:05:43] | lucidblue: | KungFuJesus: thanks... hmmm... |
| [23:05:46] | wagnerrp: | its not so much a problem of bandwidth |
| [23:05:54] | wagnerrp: | as the fact that wireless will occasionally drop |
| [23:06:03] | wagnerrp: | which means playback will stall until the network recovers |
| [23:06:19] | KungFuJesus: | yeah, really most OTA MPEG-2 content is like 24mbps max |
| [23:06:21] | lucidblue: | KungFuJesus: it's odd that they have a dll for windows that can allow it though, you copy it over the original |
| [23:06:56] | KungFuJesus: | lucidblue: somebody may have hacked a binary for some win32 window handling to do that |
| [23:07:38] | edomeda: | oh, btw, is there a way to change the theme for mythtv-setup, mediabuntu has a horrible brown with lighter brown text I can't read. >:( |
| [23:07:55] | lucidblue: | KungFuJesus: that's too bad... I was hoping someone who uses myth would have run into it too and maybe had more skill than I... |
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| [23:08:43] | lucidblue: | I'm going to run myth-frontend on that screen (HDMI out to tv), but I'm running something with mplayer full screen and that's not an issue, so I don't think anything else would be a problem |
| [23:08:47] | KungFuJesus: | you can probably use mythtv on a different virtual desktop and that would work just fine |
| [23:08:58] | KungFuJesus: | but flash isn't going to play nice for something like that |
| [23:09:38] | lucidblue: | I have my monitor on :0.0 and my other screen on :0.1 you can't drag the windows and have to start apps directly to that display |
| [23:09:45] | gbee: | anyone using analogue with an HVR-1300 with 0.22-fixes, 0.23 RCs or trunk? |
| [23:10:12] | edomeda: | KungFuJesus, so the metadata grabber doesn't work atm for iso? |
| [23:10:23] | KungFuJesus: | edomeda: I'm not sure, I never use it |
| [23:10:23] | wagnerrp: | it works just fine for ISOs |
| [23:10:34] | iamlindoro: | OTA MPEG-2 isn't remotely nar 24 Mbit |
| [23:10:37] | iamlindoro: | near |
| [23:10:42] | KungFuJesus: | I can't imagine why it wouldn't. I've done must of my lookups by hand just fine |
| [23:10:55] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: ATSC isnt anywhere 24mbps, DVB-T can be though |
| [23:10:58] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, maybe doing something wrong, using the nfs mount, removed the storage groups, but everything is all "?" |
| [23:11:19] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: have you told it to search for metadata for that movie? |
| [23:11:40] | KungFuJesus: | wagnerrp: I use ATSC and my maximum bitrate is somewhere around 18mbit/sec |
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| [23:11:46] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, in the settings, I checked that option that said grab it, will take longer to load/etc. |
| [23:12:18] | wagnerrp: | KungFuJesus: the absolute maximum is 19.4mbps |
| [23:12:28] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, says "enable metadata in file brows..." |
| [23:12:29] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: what option is that? |
| [23:12:41] | edomeda: | not sure how to read the rest of that option |
| [23:13:09] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, I tried changing the "movie grabber" too, no change |
| [23:13:18] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, the metadata load "kill switch" |
| [23:13:21] | KungFuJesus: | apparently my broadcasters want to use all of their frequency band? lol, I dunno |
| [23:13:34] | iamlindoro: | edomeda, You need to actually pull in the metadata, it is not done for you |
| [23:13:36] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: have you selected a movie, and hit 'w'? |
| [23:13:40] | iamlindoro: | edomeda, highlight a video, press W |
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| [23:14:05] | edomeda: | oh, so I have to manually do it each time? |
| [23:14:06] | KungFuJesus: | edomeda: yeah, it's not done for you unless you schedule jamu to do it w/a cronjob. Although I've never really depended on jamu |
| [23:14:15] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [23:14:17] | KungFuJesus: | it craps out on certain japanese filenames for me |
| [23:14:41] | wagnerrp: | it will handle unicode just fine, so longer at that movie exists on themoviedb.org |
| [23:15:29] | edomeda: | ok, so I got a list, picked the match, and it still shows "?" and unknowns. |
| [23:15:46] | KungFuJesus: | wagnerrp: my cron begs to differ: http://pastebin.com/3JyyceXX |
| [23:15:55] | KungFuJesus: | hard to tell exactly what video it's doing it on |
| [23:16:17] | KungFuJesus: | I've seen it take care of the occasional podcast though. It startled me at first. It also seems to update the movie posters every now and then |
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| [23:21:00] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, must be doing something wrong, I still get no data even after selecting the movie in the list. I have 0.23 set for storage groups for metadata, do I need to change that? |
| [23:21:39] | wagnerrp: | you cant tell mythvideo to use storage groups for metadata |
| [23:21:55] | wagnerrp: | content on storage groups put images in the respective storage groups |
| [23:22:04] | wagnerrp: | local content puts images in the local folders |
| [23:22:23] | edomeda: | so I need another nfs share (rw) for my FE to be able to load metadata then? |
| [23:22:27] | wagnerrp: | and even if you had no image directories defined, it would still grab the text data |
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| [23:24:10] | wagnerrp: | whats the filename of the file youre trying to pull data for? |
| [23:24:20] | edomeda: | oh, FE just crashed |
| [23:24:29] | edomeda: | went back in and now I see some text metadata |
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| [23:25:24] | edomeda: | I tried that, I had fifthelement.iso for one, thought it couldn't find it so I renamed it The_Fifth_Element.iso, but the listing still shows "FifthElement" even after scan for changes, and no metadata |
| [23:25:46] | wagnerrp: | because it found a matching hash from the previous name |
| [23:25:58] | wagnerrp: | you have to completely remove it from any folder mythvideo will scan to flush it out |
| [23:26:39] | wagnerrp: | the latter name would work |
| [23:26:51] | wagnerrp: | and would show up in mythvideo as 'The Fifth Element' |
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| [23:28:03] | iamlindoro: | or more simply, just pull up the edit metadata screen and change the title to "The Fifth Element" |
| [23:28:07] | iamlindoro: | then run a scan |
| [23:28:14] | iamlindoro: | (metadata scan) |
| [23:28:34] | wagnerrp: | that would work too, but may be cumbersome if you have multiple files that you need to fix |
| [23:29:53] | edomeda: | 2010-04–11 11:29:31.632 "/usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/Movie/tmdb.py" failed: Process error 1 (then crashed my FE) |
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| [23:30:54] | iamlindoro: | shouldn't crash your frontend, but sounds like you don't have the python bindings and their prerequisites installed |
| [23:31:07] | wagnerrp: | run that command from the terminal, and see what happens |
| [23:31:11] | edomeda: | it worked on other iso files... |
| [23:31:29] | wagnerrp: | well it still shouldnt be able to do anything to cause a crash |
| [23:31:32] | wagnerrp: | you have a dumpfile? |
| [23:31:35] | iamlindoro: | /usr/share/mythtv/mythvideo/scripts/Movie/tmdb.py -M "The Fifth Element" |
| [23:31:37] | edomeda: | it seems to hang when I run the command, takes like 3 mins and then returns code 0 |
| [23:31:41] | iamlindoro: | run that from a command line |
| [23:32:01] | iamlindoro: | What distro? Did you install the python bindings? |
| [23:32:20] | edomeda: | 18:The Fifth Element (1997) |
| [23:32:34] | edomeda: | ubuntu (using autobuild and myth 0.23) |
| [23:34:06] | edomeda: | odd, must be a bug. First two times I ran it it would "hang" and appear to timeout the script after about 60–120 secs, then crash my FE |
| [23:34:17] | edomeda: | but after it got a good lookup, it works now. |
| [23:34:30] | edomeda: | my internet here isn't the best, but shouldn't crash the FE |
| [23:37:03] | edomeda: | ah, think I know why. my fanart images directory is missing, so it's crashing on the file copy |
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| [23:41:42] | edomeda: | should I use hard or soft for nfs mounts? |
| [23:42:54] | lucidblue: | KungFuJesus: yay... so, if you can manage to use one of the packages available for the "Hulu Desktop" you can run full screen without focus |
| [23:43:19] | lucidblue: | not sure how one would integrate that with myth, but I really can't image in would be too difficult |
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| [23:47:15] | klk: | i'm upgrading my myth box with a new hard drive. the video partition will be ext4 |
| [23:47:28] | klk: | are there any options i should use to make that more efficient/faster? |
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| [23:51:19] | russk: | how come when I run "cairo-dock" on my desktop, with OpenGL enabled, my mythfrontend then is transparent with no video when I watch TV ? |
| [23:51:55] | wagnerrp: | edomeda: hard or soft what? |
| [23:52:14] | edomeda: | wagnerrp, nfs mount options on the video share |
| [23:52:31] | wagnerrp: | im not familiar with either of those options |
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| [23:58:24] | lucidblue: | so... I'm trying to setup a mythfrontend for my TV which will point to a backend on a different machine... I do have a backend running locally, but it doesn't do anything really, should I setup the remote one as the 'master backend'? |
| [23:59:03] | bjd: | should only have one backend |
| [23:59:09] | [R]: | why do you have ti running if it doesnt do anything and your not gonna use it |
| [23:59:16] | bjd: | i'd personally remove the 'local' backend |
| [23:59:36] | wagnerrp: | you should only be running backends on computers with record capacity (have tuner cards) |
| [23:59:58] | wagnerrp: | and you dont point mythtv to any backend in particular |
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