| Friday, March 12th, 2010, 00:05 UTC | ||
| [00:05:04] | jolaren: | I can't get a lock on some of my channels |
| [00:05:05] | jolaren: | rly annoyign |
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| [00:24:34] | wagnerrp: | dashcloud: all VDPAU hardware does full mpeg 1 and 2 decode |
| [00:25:19] | dashcloud: | so what's the difference between VDPAU Class A and Class B? |
| [00:25:31] | iamlindoro: | full VC-1 or not |
| [00:26:07] | wagnerrp: | although now, it doesnt really make a difference |
| [00:26:24] | wagnerrp: | since the part missing in 'class A' cards is not handled in software by the driver |
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| [00:27:14] | iamlindoro: | s/not/now/ |
| [00:28:19] | dashcloud: | okay- thanks for clearing it up |
| [00:33:34] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | Google unveiled Google Reader Play. Seesmic has had Seesmic Look. I'm wondering if there would be demand for a MythTV plugin that could display any scriptable information source in that type of full screen format as a redesign of MythNews. |
| [00:36:50] | GadgetWisdomGuru: | But I'm just thinking theoretically. |
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| [01:41:00] | fukdnscerd: | everytime i try to play video on my frontend i get: playCtx: Output filters for this channel are: '' |
| [01:41:00] | fukdnscerd: | Segmentation fault |
| [01:41:49] | wagnerrp: | what version are you running? |
| [01:41:59] | fukdnscerd: | trunk updated yesterday |
| [01:42:20] | fukdnscerd: | it works fine on one box but not on this one, updated both same time |
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| [01:50:15] | fukdnscerd: | heres the last screen full of output. This is with '-v all' http://pastebin.com/euUpcyeG |
| [01:52:57] | sphery: | fukdnscerd: use normal logging (-v important,general) or, at /most/ -v playback and you'll likely get much more useful info |
| [01:53:25] | wagnerrp: | with the logs flooded with SQL data, you wont see anything useful |
| [01:53:35] | sphery: | fukdnscerd: though likely you'll need to look at a gdb backtrace to figure out what's wrong |
| [01:53:56] | sphery: | in a multithreaded app, the last message logged is not necessarily relevant |
| [01:54:04] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Debugging |
| [01:54:33] | wagnerrp: | while the stacktrace will give an individual trace for each thread |
| [01:55:10] | fukdnscerd: | alright, ill give it a go |
| [01:55:45] | sphery: | might want to start with the reasonable logs before going to the backtrace |
| [01:58:52] | sphery: | oh, and full frontend logs are best |
| [01:59:02] | sphery: | use -l to specify log file |
| [02:01:50] | fukdnscerd: | alright full frontend log with -v important,general http://pastebin.com/4me3DN58 |
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| [02:15:50] | sphery: | fukdnscerd: ok, how about a -v important,general,playback |
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| [02:19:20] | fukdnscerd: | -v important,general,playback : http://pastebin.com/jWxk2Nt5 |
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| [02:25:10] | sphery: | and it segfaults after that? |
| [02:25:15] | sphery: | fukdnscerd: ^^^ |
| [02:25:28] | sphery: | if so, I'd guess it's likely whatever's in the AVI that's causing the issue |
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| [02:28:43] | fukdnscerd: | yep |
| [02:28:44] | fukdnscerd: | sorry |
| [02:29:33] | fukdnscerd: | ok, they are avis that i downloaded with mythnettv. ill try another that i know is good |
| [02:30:01] | sphery: | you mean mythnetvision? |
| [02:30:19] | sphery: | if so, I think I remember iamlindoro mentioning that some of them aren't working since the ffmpeg resync |
| [02:30:24] | fukdnscerd: | no i was using mythnettv, i believe an unnoficial plugin |
| [02:30:39] | fukdnscerd: | i have since switched to mythnetvision |
| [02:30:41] | sphery: | oh, well could be the same issue |
| [02:31:12] | sphery: | something in the new ffmpeg code seems to have problems with some non-recording videos |
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| [02:32:07] | fukdnscerd: | ok, i just checked and it seems to happen with all of the videos in my media library so far. It works just fine on two other machines running the same version of mythtv with the same files |
| [02:32:30] | sphery: | even videos that Myth recorded? |
| [02:32:44] | sphery: | if so, it must be configuration/compilation/installation |
| [02:33:08] | fukdnscerd: | tbh i dont even get broadcast at my current location so I dont have any recorded by myth |
| [02:33:43] | sphery: | hmmm... then again, if the same videos work on other frontends, that's probably just as good a test |
| [02:34:27] | fukdnscerd: | yeah i did find an old one that i previously recorded with myth and the same thing. the log files are nearly identical save for the filenames |
| [02:35:35] | sphery: | best advice I could give is to check your playback profile. I'd recommend setting the playback profile group to Slim. |
| [02:36:41] | fukdnscerd: | same thing |
| [02:39:13] | fukdnscerd: | i upgraded from release to trunk yesterday.. i did a 'make uninstall' for plugins and mythtv but I forgot to kill mythbackend before uninstalling release and installing trunk. i since uninstalled and reinstalled but When i was done it gave protocol errors the first few times i started it up but then started and ran ok except for this |
| [02:39:59] | fukdnscerd: | not sure if this is relevant |
| [02:40:31] | sphery: | sounds suspicious |
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| [02:41:02] | sphery: | might want to uninstall, then get rid of everything myth related (save the database and recordings) and reinstall |
| [02:42:50] | fukdnscerd: | what should i look to get rid of after the uninstall |
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| [02:45:39] | sphery: | fukdnscerd: I'd recommend: rm -r /usr/{,local/}lib/libmyth* /usr/{,local/}lib/mythtv /usr/{,local/}include/mythtv |
| [02:45:58] | sphery: | the /usr/{,local/}share/mythtv stuff shouldn't be a problem |
| [02:47:19] | fukdnscerd: | should i do a make uninstall for the plugins too or just for mythtv |
| [02:47:42] | sphery: | shouldn't matter--the rm will uninstall them for you :) |
| [02:47:54] | sphery: | but you will want to re-install them after the fact |
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| [02:52:51] | fukdnscerd: | ok something isnt quite right, i just compiled and it only took a couple of minutes |
| [02:53:10] | fukdnscerd: | oh nvm |
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| [02:53:30] | Emzzzz: | http://imggmi.info/DSC-1268362020.jpg/ do my tits look big? |
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| [02:53:57] | sphery: | I thought this channel was +r, now to stop those |
| [02:54:24] | clever: | dont see +r, just +cnt |
| [02:54:52] | sphery: | oh, that's what that means--didn't realize that my client shows the flags :) |
| [02:55:19] | sphery: | I guess they took off the +r after the problem slowed |
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| [02:56:42] | fukdnscerd: | ok i thought i accidentally hit ctl+c in the wrong console, but indeed it took less than a minute. didn't exit with errors tho |
| [02:57:06] | sphery: | if it was already compiled in there, that's normal |
| [02:57:14] | fukdnscerd: | ok |
| [02:57:24] | sphery: | if you want to ensure it's rebuild, you can do a make distclean, then configure and make again |
| [02:57:30] | sphery: | s/rebuild/rebuilt/ |
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| [02:57:54] | fukdnscerd: | thought i was going crazy at first lol, ill try an install and see what happens |
| [02:58:12] | fukdnscerd: | so make only compiles things that have changed i take it? |
| [02:58:14] | sphery: | yeah, makes sense to try it this way, then if it doesn't work, you can re-rm and then rebuild |
| [02:58:23] | sphery: | right, it does incremental compiles |
| [02:58:44] | sphery: | saves a /ton/ of time when making changes :) |
| [03:00:01] | fukdnscerd: | thats cool |
| [03:00:11] | fukdnscerd: | definitely saves a ton of time |
| [03:00:22] | fukdnscerd: | it took bout an hour the first time |
| [03:00:42] | clever: | i rarely uninstall when rebuilding |
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| [03:00:53] | fukdnscerd: | :-D that did it. |
| [03:00:54] | clever: | enless you change the version#, youll always rewrite the old libs |
| [03:01:08] | sphery: | fukdnscerd: playback works? |
| [03:01:12] | fukdnscerd: | yep |
| [03:01:13] | sphery: | if so, probably just mixed up libs |
| [03:01:15] | sphery: | great! |
| [03:01:18] | sphery: | glad it's working |
| [03:01:23] | fukdnscerd: | thanks a lot guys |
| [03:01:27] | sphery: | enjoy |
| [03:01:32] | fukdnscerd: | you saved the day again :)\ |
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| [03:06:09] | fukdnscerd: | one more question.. you guys know of a good howto on tweaking playback profiles |
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| [03:06:28] | fukdnscerd: | or have any good advice |
| [03:06:49] | dizzy1: | does anyone here have a wintv pvr 150? |
| [03:07:02] | wagnerrp: | lot of people, what do you need? |
| [03:07:26] | dizzy1: | i need some help getting the ir blaster working in fedora 12 |
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| [03:09:05] | dizzy1: | the wiki directs you to this page http://www.blushingpenguin.com/mark/blog/?p=24 and using the lirc version there it tells me to run make oldconfig && make prepare on my kernal and when i do that i i get this: scripts/kconfig/conf -o arch/x86/Kconfig |
| [03:09:05] | dizzy1: | # |
| [03:09:05] | dizzy1: | # configuration written to .config |
| [03:09:05] | dizzy1: | # |
| [03:09:06] | dizzy1: | scripts/kconfig/conf -s arch/x86/Kconfig |
| [03:09:08] | dizzy1: | CHK include/linux/version.h |
| [03:09:10] | dizzy1: | CHK include/linux/utsrelease.h |
| [03:09:12] | dizzy1: | SYMLINK include/asm -> include/asm-x86 |
| [03:09:14] | dizzy1: | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `missing-syscalls'. Stop. |
| [03:09:16] | dizzy1: | make: *** [prepare0] Error 2 |
| [03:09:52] | wagnerrp: | oldconfig only works if youre upgrading an old .config from an old kernel build to a new kernle |
| [03:10:35] | dizzy1: | so i need to find an old .config file and do this? |
| [03:11:03] | wagnerrp: | if youre going to be recompiling your kernel for some reason, you need to find a copy of the .config for the kernel youre currently using |
| [03:11:32] | dizzy1: | is there an easier way to get it working? |
| [03:11:42] | wagnerrp: | dont know, never used the blaster on my cards |
| [03:12:16] | wagnerrp: | RDV_Linux: is there any way to force a specific show for a season/episode number search? |
| [03:12:23] | fukdnscerd: | mythnettv page says i need myth python bindings installed, how do i find out if i do |
| [03:12:43] | wagnerrp: | run python, and try 'import MythTV' |
| [03:13:00] | wagnerrp: | mythnettv? or mythnetvision? |
| [03:13:25] | fukdnscerd: | sorry, my mistake mythnetvision |
| [03:13:42] | fukdnscerd: | i gotta get used to saying netvision instead of nettv |
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| [03:16:23] | dizzy1: | is there anyone in the channel using the ir blaster with the wintv pvr 150? |
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| [03:25:17] | sphery: | dizzy1: do you have a /proc/config.gz |
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| [03:25:56] | sphery: | if so, you can get a config with: zcat config.gz > .config |
| [03:26:10] | sphery: | do a make mrproper, first, though, since you've already done stuff in the dir |
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| [03:26:34] | dizzy1: | it doesn't look like it |
| [03:28:13] | dizzy1: | does ivtv have builtin ir blaster drivers? |
| [03:28:27] | wagnerrp: | ivtv doesnt do IR |
| [03:28:41] | dizzy1: | ok |
| [03:29:25] | dizzy1: | i was just thinking that because dmesg noticed i had an ir recevier and transmitter |
| [03:30:15] | dizzy1: | so the way in the wiki is the best way? |
| [03:32:34] | dizzy1: | or has lirc introduced support the wintv pvr 150 transmitter? |
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| [03:38:50] | wagnerrp: | this 'anonymous' on #8164 has a rather awkward system |
| [03:38:57] | wagnerrp: | a 'quad core pentium' |
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| [03:39:17] | wagnerrp: | rather new Qt 4.6.2, and rather old nVidia 180.29 |
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| [03:39:30] | fukdnscerd: | i have a quad cpu pentium three |
| [03:39:36] | wagnerrp: | is that even post beta? |
| [03:39:57] | wagnerrp: | quad cpu and quad core are two completely different things |
| [03:40:37] | fukdnscerd: | i know, i never heard of multi-core in the pentium era, though i wasnt the most informed |
| [03:40:55] | wagnerrp: | there were no true multicore pentiums |
| [03:41:09] | wagnerrp: | the pentium d's were nothing more than two pentium processors on a single package |
| [03:41:21] | wagnerrp: | and there has never been a quad core cpu marketed as a pentium |
| [03:41:40] | fukdnscerd: | you think its bs? |
| [03:42:07] | wagnerrp: | i think this user is not well informed about what is going on with his system |
| [03:42:18] | wagnerrp: | and not one to make good bug reports |
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| [03:46:10] | fukdnscerd: | mythnetvision tells me there is probably a script prerequisite missing and to run the script manually. where are the scripts? |
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| [03:46:50] | wagnerrp: | what is your prefix? |
| [03:48:19] | fukdnscerd: | not sure. i didnt change it tho, so whatever trunk uses i guess |
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| [03:48:29] | wagnerrp: | so /usr/local |
| [03:48:39] | wagnerrp: | the scripts would be in /usr/local/share/mythtv/mythnetvision/scripts |
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| [03:49:15] | fukdnscerd: | cool |
| [03:49:56] | fukdnscerd: | The subdirectory "nv_python_libs/youtube" containing the modules youtube_api.py (v0.2.0 or greater), |
| [03:49:56] | fukdnscerd: | They should have been included with the distribution of youtube.py. |
| [03:49:56] | fukdnscerd: | Error('OutStreamEncoder' object is not callable) |
| [03:50:16] | fukdnscerd: | that was output from the youtube script |
| [03:50:40] | wagnerrp: | is there not such a folder in the folder that script was found in? |
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| [03:50:59] | fukdnscerd: | there is indeed |
| [03:51:28] | fukdnscerd: | and youtube_api.py does exist |
| [03:52:07] | pembo13: | i normally use mplayer for mythvideo |
| [03:52:20] | pembo13: | all of a sudden, -aspect and -monitoraspect have no effect |
| [03:52:26] | pembo13: | it's as if mplayer is nolonger being used |
| [03:52:30] | fukdnscerd: | but the script is owned by root and read only for group and others |
| [03:52:40] | wagnerrp: | this is not mplayer support |
| [03:52:45] | [R]: | pembo13: well when you are plyaing the video... chekc ps |
| [03:52:55] | pembo13: | good idea |
| [03:53:01] | wagnerrp: | do you still have the normal mplayer UI? or does it look more like the UI you see when you are playing recordings? |
| [03:53:14] | pembo13: | wagnerrp: normally UI |
| [03:53:24] | pembo13: | i had heard that the internal player supported aspect ratios |
| [03:53:27] | pembo13: | but i hadn't made the change yet |
| [03:54:07] | wagnerrp: | 'normally UI' what? |
| [03:54:27] | pembo13: | sorry, i meant to say it looks like the normal mplayer UI |
| [03:54:31] | pembo13: | just a simple screen |
| [03:54:32] | wagnerrp: | it looks like the very basic single color mplayer UI? |
| [03:55:02] | wagnerrp: | ok, if youre using mplayer, and its not working as you expect, try in #mplayer |
| [03:55:08] | pembo13: | wagnerrp: ok, mplayer is invoked |
| [03:55:11] | pembo13: | wagnerrp: will do |
| [03:55:34] | pembo13: | wagnerrp: i guess i can check the wiki for using the internal player? |
| [03:55:36] | wagnerrp: | note that external playback support is likely to be removed in a future mythtv release |
| [03:56:04] | pembo13: | yah, not going to waste time on the mplayer thing |
| [03:56:14] | pembo13: | going to look up setting an aspect with the internal player |
| [03:56:26] | wagnerrp: | 'w' |
| [03:56:34] | fukdnscerd: | should the scripts in the nv_python_libs dir be executable by everyone.... runnin the youtube script as root still gives the same result |
| [03:57:07] | wagnerrp: | the directories and the top level scripts need to be executable |
| [03:57:14] | wagnerrp: | i do not believe the libraries need to |
| [03:58:38] | fukdnscerd: | its the same error for all scripts as well, i guess I'll look over the prerequisites again |
| [04:01:38] | mzb: | finally! I've now got 5 tuners in the MBE. As there are only 5 multiplexes I can now record 100% simultaneously! |
| [04:01:40] | mzb: | BUT |
| [04:02:15] | mzb: | my question: if all of the tuners are in use will/can livetv be made to skip to the correct tuner for a particular channel? |
| [04:02:34] | [R]: | it should do it automatically... |
| [04:02:50] | mzb: | (I've setup each tuner as 5 virtual tuners ... staggered order) |
| [04:02:53] | mzb: | err ... ok |
| [04:02:58] | mzb: | I'm running trunk |
| [04:03:54] | mzb: | nope ... tuner#0 is tuned to the ABC |
| [04:04:23] | mzb: | if I select tuner#0 as an input during livetv I can only get ABC |
| [04:04:25] | mzb: | it doesn |
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| [04:04:36] | mzb: | 't give me any other channels to scroll through |
| [04:05:11] | mzb: | if I give the direct channel number (of a channel on another multiplex) it ignores the request to change channels |
| [04:05:18] | mzb: | is there an option for this somewhere? |
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| [04:05:56] | [R]: | are you using channel groups? |
| [04:06:52] | fukdnscerd: | how can i test if i have a working config.xml file for Myth python bindings |
| [04:07:08] | [R]: | fukdnscerd: try to use it? |
| [04:07:20] | wagnerrp: | have you run any mythtv application on that system? |
| [04:07:29] | mzb: | I'm not aware of channel groups |
| [04:07:30] | wagnerrp: | frontend? backend? tv-setup? |
| [04:07:36] | fukdnscerd: | yep |
| [04:07:47] | wagnerrp: | then you have a proper config.xml |
| [04:07:58] | ** mzb googles ** | |
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| [04:09:58] | mzb: | [R]: so what's the idea there? Do I create a channel group "All Channels" or something? |
| [04:10:31] | [R]: | mzb: i was just asking if you are using it |
| [04:10:33] | [R]: | if you have no clue what it is |
| [04:10:35] | [R]: | then you arent |
| [04:11:32] | mzb: | ok, no I wasn't. Now I'm trying to work out how to use it, and if it applies to me in any way |
| [04:14:42] | mzb: | found it : "Browse all channels" in OSD setup |
| [04:15:24] | mzb: | hehe ... but that doesn't automatically switch inputs ... *sigh* |
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| [04:18:24] | mzb: | post #4 http://www.mythtvtalk.com/forum/general/11957 . . . -switch.html |
| [04:21:04] | fukdnscerd: | any ideas on the nv_python_libs error? |
| [04:21:40] | mzb: | PersistentBrowseMode ? |
| [04:22:35] | mzb: | err ... all set to 1 (for every FE) |
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| [04:24:48] | dizzy1: | any idea of why when i start the backend and i try to connect a frontend it crashs? |
| [04:25:13] | [R]: | dizzy1: "it"? |
| [04:25:23] | dizzy1: | backend sorry |
| [04:25:36] | [R]: | anything in the log? |
| [04:25:43] | [R]: | what version/ |
| [04:25:46] | dizzy1: | can you point me to one? |
| [04:25:51] | dizzy1: | .22 fixes |
| [04:26:05] | [R]: | the backend either outputs to stdout or to a log file if you tell it |
| [04:26:29] | dizzy1: | when you have it running as a service where does it go? |
| [04:26:53] | mzb: | strangely enough I (still) can't change inputs with 'c' or 'C' |
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| [04:27:18] | [R]: | dizzy1: wherever you tell it to go |
| [04:27:49] | mzb: | ('C' is mapped to 'view input') |
| [04:28:11] | dizzy1: | buti dont tell it to go anywhere to my knowledge. just sudo /etc/init.d/mythbackend start |
| [04:29:53] | mzb: | I give up ... time for the fumigation guy ;) |
| [04:30:02] | fukdnscerd: | try /var/log/mythtv/ |
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| [04:30:15] | dizzy1: | it is there i just found it |
| [04:30:26] | dizzy1: | i think there is something wrong with db config |
| [04:30:37] | dizzy1: | 010-03–11 11:30:34.663 UPnPautoconf() – No UPnP backends found |
| [04:30:37] | dizzy1: | 2010-03–11 11:30:34.672 No UPnP backends found |
| [04:30:37] | dizzy1: | No UPnP backends found |
| [04:30:37] | dizzy1: | Would you like to configure the database connection now? [no] |
| [04:30:37] | dizzy1: | [console is not interactive, using default 'no'] |
| [04:30:38] | dizzy1: | 2010-03–11 11:30:34.733 Deleting UPnP client... |
| [04:30:39] | dizzy1: | 2010-03–11 11:30:35.665 Failed to init MythContext, exiting. |
| [04:31:33] | [R]: | sounds like its not even started... not crashing... |
| [04:32:02] | sphery: | mzb: are you using current enough 0.22-fixes? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/23032 |
| [04:32:12] | fukdnscerd: | have you run mythtv-setup |
| [04:32:15] | dizzy1: | how can i check the version |
| [04:32:45] | sphery: | dizzy1: for you, it sounds like you just need to run mythtv-setup |
| [04:32:56] | sphery: | (like fukdnscerd suggested :) |
| [04:33:14] | sphery: | run it as the user who's running mythbackend |
| [04:33:42] | sphery: | or copy $HOME/.mythtv/{mysql.txt,config.xml} to the same place in the backend user's HOME |
| [04:33:59] | sphery: | (after running mythtv-setup as some other user) |
| [04:34:14] | dizzy1: | so the ip address in local backend is the local ip 192.168.*.*? |
| [04:34:34] | fukdnscerd: | do you have multiple frontends |
| [04:34:44] | dizzy1: | just one currently |
| [04:35:30] | fukdnscerd: | if you plan on using remote frontends or slave backends you need to set it to the lan address of the machine |
| [04:35:41] | fukdnscerd: | the 192.168 address |
| [04:35:58] | sphery: | best is to use the 192.168 addresses--never 127.0.0.1 |
| [04:36:06] | sphery: | makes things easier down the line |
| [04:36:18] | dizzy1: | and the master backend address is the same? |
| [04:38:19] | fukdnscerd: | yes |
| [04:38:20] | dizzy1: | what is the security pin? |
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| [04:42:16] | fukdnscerd: | i believe its to prevent rogue frontends from connecting to your backend |
| [04:43:00] | wagnerrp: | its some marginal security for people on shared networks |
| [04:43:08] | wagnerrp: | trivially bypassed |
| [04:43:18] | dizzy1: | ok that makes sense |
| [04:43:41] | sphery: | security by making people who don't think too deeply feel better |
| [04:44:11] | fukdnscerd: | lol its amazing how often that works |
| [04:45:21] | dizzy1: | do i have to configure anything in input connection if im just using composite in? |
| [04:46:25] | sphery: | yes |
| [04:46:38] | sphery: | input connections connect video source to inputs |
| [04:46:50] | dizzy1: | ok |
| [04:46:50] | sphery: | video source is the list of channels the input can receive |
| [04:47:39] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.1 |
| [04:47:43] | sphery: | has some good info |
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| [04:51:15] | dizzy1: | am i right in guessing to use an ir blaster to change channels on a satellite box need an external script? |
| [04:51:50] | [R]: | yup |
| [04:52:31] | mzb: | sphery: I'm using trunk |
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| [04:52:37] | dizzy1: | do i have to make my own? |
| [04:52:56] | [R]: | theres some in contrib i belive |
| [04:53:20] | dizzy1: | noob question: where is contrib? |
| [04:53:55] | mzb: | ah, no mapping for NEXTCARD |
| [04:54:03] | [R]: | dizzy1: in the tarball... |
| [04:54:24] | sphery: | mzb: Assuming you're that rev or later, then http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/379614#379614 |
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| [04:56:32] | dizzy1: | is the ftp down ir just my internet? |
| [04:56:39] | dizzy1: | or not ir |
| [04:56:41] | sphery: | mzb: meaning you likely need nextcard (which you'll have to map yourself) |
| [04:56:42] | wagnerrp: | what ftp? |
| [04:56:55] | dizzy1: | ftp.osuosl.org |
| [04:57:03] | wagnerrp: | VERY doubtful |
| [04:57:22] | sphery: | dizzy1: use Trac and/or SVN |
| [04:57:48] | sphery: | dizzy1: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . thtv/contrib |
| [04:58:12] | wagnerrp: | crap... i really need to rebuild my systems |
| [04:59:50] | dizzy1: | ok put in /bin or /etc? or elsewhere? |
| [05:00:59] | wagnerrp: | i really need to make this crap read-only |
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| [05:01:09] | wagnerrp: | so a bad boot doesnt end up wiping everything again |
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| [05:12:57] | [R]: | wtf kind of chef refuses to recook meat if the customer doesn't like it? |
| [05:13:19] | [R]: | kitchen nightmares is so stupid |
| [05:13:25] | wagnerrp: | that depends |
| [05:13:36] | [R]: | its not like its a 5 star restaurant with a waiting list a mile long... |
| [05:13:47] | wagnerrp: | is the chef going to be able to recook it such that it wont destroy the meat? |
| [05:14:00] | [R]: | no clue... buyt he just flat out refused |
| [05:14:24] | wagnerrp: | perhaps the thing was already well done, dried out, and wasnt worth his effort |
| [05:14:33] | [R]: | no... hes just an ass |
| [05:14:35] | [R]: | and it was all red |
| [05:14:58] | wagnerrp: | perhaps there were some health code issues where they cannot accept food back into the kitchen and onto the equipment |
| [05:15:03] | [R]: | lol |
| [05:15:08] | [R]: | no... |
| [05:15:14] | [R]: | the chef just sucks |
| [05:15:17] | [R]: | thats why hes on the hsow |
| [05:15:47] | wagnerrp: | fair enough, i just hear complaints from my sister about _stupid_ customers daily |
| [05:16:39] | wagnerrp: | 'this food sucks, all the food here sucks', 'then why do you keep coming back every... day... and wanting free replacement food?' |
| [05:19:24] | wagnerrp: | or people ask for prime rib, medium, not knowing what medium is |
| [05:19:38] | wagnerrp: | so they send it back, and it comes back out well done, but its still not what they want |
| [05:20:07] | wagnerrp: | so they throw it on the back of the grill, get it coated in the charred chicken gristle, and the customer is happy |
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| [05:29:27] | mechcozmo: | hello, i get static on one channel but no others with a PVR-500; both tuners exhibit the problem |
| [05:29:44] | wagnerrp: | is that actually a valid channel? |
| [05:29:59] | mechcozmo: | yes, i have guide data for it and other TVs have tuned to it in the past |
| [05:30:06] | mechcozmo: | (past being within a week) |
| [05:30:08] | wagnerrp: | youve checked this with a tv or other tuner to make sure time warner hasnt just disabled that channel? |
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| [05:31:00] | mechcozmo: | i'm 90% sure; let me go check to make sure |
| [05:32:31] | mechcozmo: | it would appear my memory's at fault here |
| [05:32:36] | mechcozmo: | other TVs cannot tune to it |
| [05:33:01] | mechcozmo: | so this leads to the next question... why is it still in my guide data if i cannot actually tune to it? |
| [05:33:30] | wagnerrp: | no one has informed TMS that TW dropped the channel |
| [05:34:39] | mechcozmo: | no one informed _me_ either... |
| [05:34:56] | wagnerrp: | TW should have been broadcasting notices that they would drop that channel |
| [05:35:12] | wagnerrp: | and they usually would run a page on that channel for several days afterwards saying it had been dropped |
| [05:36:25] | mechcozmo: | so, how do i go about tipping off TMS that channel 39 is off the air for Time Warner now? |
| [05:36:55] | wagnerrp: | theres a form on the schedules direct website to file a report |
| [05:37:04] | mechcozmo: | also; would time warner really drop a channel they own? |
| [05:37:12] | wagnerrp: | what is this channel? |
| [05:37:17] | mechcozmo: | 'truTV' |
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| [05:37:33] | wagnerrp: | chances are it has just been made digital-only |
| [05:37:37] | sphery: | mechcozmo: is it channel 5 or channel 6? |
| [05:37:49] | mechcozmo: | er... 39? |
| [05:37:59] | sphery: | ok, then nvm |
| [05:38:02] | ** wagnerrp prods sphery with some reading glasses ** | |
| [05:38:24] | sphery: | ah, just see it now |
| [05:38:38] | sphery: | should have read scrollback before asking |
| [05:38:47] | wagnerrp: | weve all done it... |
| [05:38:51] | mechcozmo: | we all have to burn in hell for something |
| [05:40:23] | mechcozmo: | and now for something completely different... has anyone tried one of the eeeBoxes or other nettops? |
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| [05:40:51] | mechcozmo: | they seem to have the graphics horsepower to handle HD, have HDMI out, and are incredibly small |
| [05:40:55] | wagnerrp: | the ION systems work |
| [05:41:08] | wagnerrp: | everything else is going to be underpowered for anything useful |
| [05:41:43] | mechcozmo: | ION and ION 2 is what i was referring to by 'graphics horsepower' |
| [05:41:48] | mechcozmo: | VDPAU runs on them? |
| [05:41:52] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [05:42:17] | mechcozmo: | nifty |
| [05:43:08] | mechcozmo: | when those hit refurb i may have to pick one up |
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| [05:51:18] | justinh: | yay got my podcast generator stuff working! |
| [05:52:03] | justinh: | now my script which converts dvb radio recordings to emptyfleas automagically updates an rss feed :) |
| [05:52:19] | justinh: | won't work in itunes but I don't use itunes |
| [05:55:49] | wagnerrp: | hurrah! stick it to those trendy bastards |
| [06:00:53] | justinh: | I'm not 'casting to them anyway :) |
| [06:01:06] | dizzy1: | thanks for your help guys |
| [06:01:33] | justinh: | trust apple to come up with a non-compliant rss stream though eh |
| [06:01:53] | mechcozmo: | listen, non-compliant RSS is magical |
| [06:01:57] | mechcozmo: | and beautiful |
| [06:02:29] | justinh: | I see one benefit. they get more kids to use podcasts. that adult only tag is worth its weight |
| [06:03:08] | mechcozmo: | it does have its uses |
| [06:03:26] | dizzy1: | bye |
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| [07:20:48] | Beirdo: | don't drink and IRC :) |
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| [07:26:20] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: ? |
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| [07:26:49] | justinh: | itsch good adviche |
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| [07:28:08] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:28:45] | Beirdo: | mind you it's never stopped me before :) |
| [07:28:59] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: just general advice ;) |
| [07:29:11] | Beirdo: | was out with kormoc and xris. Fun times |
| [07:29:29] | justinh: | oo reminds me I have a new cachaca to try tonight :) |
| [07:30:30] | Beirdo: | My legs are not happy with me.. been sedentary a little too long :) |
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| [07:31:21] | Beirdo: | but it's a good pain :) |
| [07:31:23] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [07:31:41] | justinh: | almost sounds like there was dancing too :D |
| [07:32:03] | Beirdo: | nah, just a lot more walking than my fat butt is used to :) |
| [07:32:32] | justinh: | heh every time I end up on a bar crawl we always wind up ping-ponging across town |
| [07:32:58] | justinh: | takes a while to travel between manchester's various drinking districts |
| [07:33:04] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:33:18] | Beirdo: | back in the day, I pub crawled like 15km in Vienna |
| [07:33:38] | Beirdo: | we went MAYBE 500m between pubs... :) |
| [07:33:48] | justinh: | there was a crawl in Durham I used to do with a friend at University there. The goal was to have a drink in each university bar |
| [07:33:49] | Beirdo: | it was a great time :) |
| [07:33:55] | justinh: | there were something like 14 of them at the time |
| [07:34:05] | wagnerrp: | you wouldnt even have time to get a drink at each bar |
| [07:34:11] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:34:15] | Beirdo: | oh we did.... |
| [07:34:22] | Beirdo: | my coworker and I... |
| [07:34:38] | justinh: | one thing I really like about the OSS community. they really know how to drink :) |
| [07:34:45] | Beirdo: | I think we had about 30 half-pints that one night :) |
| [07:34:53] | justinh: | I miss doing the linux expos for that alone |
| [07:35:27] | justinh: | wonder whatever happened to the UK mythtv get-together idea somebody said they were seeing about |
| [07:35:38] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:35:45] | Beirdo: | start one :) |
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| [07:36:17] | justinh: | 15 pints? I managed ten once. it wasn't a pretty sight |
| [07:36:38] | justinh: | there was singing & nakedness in Cardiff city centre, according to various reports |
| [07:36:41] | wagnerrp: | you and your fancy metric scale... |
| [07:36:43] | Beirdo: | yeah, we were... hammered when we finally staggered into the hotel :) |
| [07:37:00] | Beirdo: | but we're Canadians, so.. :) |
| [07:37:47] | Beirdo: | and we did hit the head in many of the pubs too... but it was a fun night |
| [07:37:57] | justinh: | and that European stuff.. christ. Puts hairs on your hairs that stuff |
| [07:38:04] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [07:38:13] | Beirdo: | and get this.. |
| [07:38:19] | Beirdo: | we started at McDonalds |
| [07:38:23] | justinh: | heh |
| [07:38:31] | Beirdo: | which, in Austria... serves Gosser |
| [07:38:42] | Beirdo: | a local beer. :) |
| [07:38:50] | Beirdo: | "is that for here or to go?" |
| [07:38:53] | justinh: | they're certainly more enlightened in $Real_Europe |
| [07:39:00] | Beirdo: | OMG we started laughing with that one |
| [07:39:26] | justinh: | do you get it in their standard cup though? |
| [07:39:42] | justinh: | with a straw, too? lol |
| [07:39:54] | Beirdo: | yeah, we tossed the straws though |
| [07:40:07] | Beirdo: | it was so... foreign :) |
| [07:40:08] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:40:20] | Beirdo: | Gosser is a pretty light pilsner though |
| [07:40:33] | justinh: | they seriously put it in the standard cup with straw? ROFL |
| [07:40:36] | Beirdo: | and is missing an umlaut on the o |
| [07:40:41] | Beirdo: | yes, they did. |
| [07:40:46] | Beirdo: | it was funny. |
| [07:41:01] | justinh: | I can imagine it was |
| [07:41:02] | Beirdo: | We were SO not in Canada anymore ;) |
| [07:41:45] | Beirdo: | the next day we were drinking in the hotel bar, and this guy asked us (out of the blue)... "You are Canadians, aren't you?" |
| [07:41:48] | Beirdo: | hhehe |
| [07:42:13] | Beirdo: | he knew we weren't Americans because we weren't falling off our stools (his explanation, not mine) |
| [07:42:24] | Beirdo: | he was an Aussie :) |
| [07:43:21] | justinh: | now there's a race who know how to drink |
| [07:43:39] | Beirdo: | generally speaking, yep :) |
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| [07:43:57] | Beirdo: | I will not be challenging many Aussies to a drinking contest :) |
| [07:45:03] | justinh: | being only 5' 5" or so it was never generally a good idea for me even to try & keep up |
| [07:45:11] | Beirdo: | ah, hehe |
| [07:45:24] | Beirdo: | 6', and way too big for my own good :) |
| [07:45:36] | justinh: | now 6 pints does was 10 used to do |
| [07:45:42] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [07:45:45] | Beirdo: | I hear ya |
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| [07:45:51] | Beirdo: | my tolerance is way down |
| [07:45:51] | justinh: | but hey, makes for a cheaper night out :) |
| [07:46:01] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [07:46:11] | justinh: | needs to, at almost 4 quid a pint in some places |
| [07:46:22] | Beirdo: | eek |
| [07:46:41] | Beirdo: | we had some microbrewery stuff tonight that I really did like |
| [07:46:49] | justinh: | though I was at my aunt's 80th birthday bash the other Friday.. at a working mens' club. £1.20 a pint |
| [07:46:51] | Beirdo: | a lot of hops :) $2 for the pint |
| [07:47:04] | justinh: | hell even the port was £1.03 |
| [07:47:12] | justinh: | not for a pint though ;) |
| [07:47:15] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:47:28] | Beirdo: | I couldn't drink port by the pint |
| [07:47:34] | Beirdo: | rum, sure |
| [07:47:39] | Beirdo: | or vodka ;) |
| [07:48:31] | Beirdo: | I want scotch |
| [07:48:40] | justinh: | sister bought me a bottle of S. Comfort for christmas. I can't stand the stuff anymore |
| [07:48:46] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:48:55] | Beirdo: | that stuff has its place. |
| [07:49:01] | Beirdo: | good in lemonade |
| [07:49:05] | justinh: | not after one new year where my girlfriend's mother & I saw our way through 2 bottles of the stuff |
| [07:49:19] | Beirdo: | oh oh |
| [07:49:19] | justinh: | and that was after we got back from the pub |
| [07:49:40] | Beirdo: | drinking with the girlfriend's mom can't end well. |
| [07:50:10] | justinh: | I conceded defeat but earned her respect |
| [07:50:18] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [07:51:00] | justinh: | god, now I'm reminiscing about the party I went to where by the time I got there, there were no soft drinks, no glasses & all I'd taken was a bottle of JD |
| [07:51:11] | Beirdo: | hehe |
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| [07:51:48] | Beirdo: | I remember a house warming party where I brought a bottle of scotch and a bottle of vodka... and drank almost all of both |
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| [07:52:24] | justinh: | sat down on this 2 seater sofa & opened the bottle. somebody told me that was 'Kat's chair' and that anybody who sat there at a party would end up erm.. you know. Turned out to be true & story goes my ex went looking for me.. and found us on the stairs |
| [07:52:49] | Beirdo: | jeez |
| [07:52:59] | justinh: | she was my ex at the time btw, so I wasn't being nasty |
| [07:53:31] | justinh: | ah happy times |
| [07:53:41] | Beirdo: | OK. Whew |
| [07:54:02] | Beirdo: | she woulda been the ex after that anyways with all likelihood |
| [07:54:12] | justinh: | lol. pretty likely I think |
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| [07:54:47] | justinh: | but still, to go looking for somebody out of concern for their wellbeing & seeing that.. heheh |
| [07:55:33] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:55:37] | justinh: | Dear 24 year old self. Next time, find somewhere private |
| [07:55:47] | Beirdo: | hehehe |
| [07:56:18] | Beirdo: | the next house warming party, I brought bottle of rum and a bottle of vodka |
| [07:56:24] | Beirdo: | drank em both |
| [07:56:28] | justinh: | oof |
| [07:56:48] | Beirdo: | my poor liver ;) |
| [07:58:23] | justinh: | those house parties in Cardiff were something else. drinking all day at a BBQ, then going into town... there was a fair on next to the town hall once. I went up on a ferris wheel thingy with one of my ex's friends.. then we had a bit of a thundery rainstorm. this girl started freaking out & I didn't help by pointing out the lightning striking the conductor on the peak of the town hall just to our left :D |
| [07:58:41] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [07:59:10] | justinh: | she never spoke to me again, something I was forever grateful for :) |
| [07:59:31] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [08:00:06] | justinh: | hmmm. is there any way to get firefox to NOT subscribe to an rss feed & just show the xml? |
| [08:01:03] | justinh: | ahh it's a preference. lovely |
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| [08:04:38] | justinh: | yay they fixed the lights in the kitchen. It looked like a scene from Half Life yesterday |
| [08:07:18] | justinh: | hmm. I don't know if I should take these scripts further & get them exporting stuff into different directories based on channel/show |
| [08:09:35] | justinh: | Beirdo: what do you do with your goon show scrapings? do you turn them into podcasts? |
| [08:09:54] | Beirdo: | for myself, yes |
| [08:10:24] | wagnerrp: | any suggestions on how to forcefully unmount nfs? |
| [08:10:39] | Beirdo: | umount -f |
| [08:10:45] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [08:10:51] | justinh: | what did you use? I've been hacking my own scripts since perl didn't have anything I could get even from cpan |
| [08:10:51] | wagnerrp: | "can't write superblock" |
| [08:11:08] | Beirdo: | umount -l |
| [08:11:09] | justinh: | one of the things I found wanted its own database :-\ |
| [08:11:31] | Beirdo: | perl + shell scripting calling mplayer |
| [08:12:31] | justinh: | ran info a weird problem where XML::RSS was having a fit cos the feed didn't have a description |
| [08:12:48] | Beirdo: | hehe, so give it one :) |
| [08:12:56] | justinh: | I did, and now it works |
| [08:13:11] | justinh: | no wonder the MP3::Podcast maintainer gave up in 2006 |
| [08:13:27] | wagnerrp: | screw it... 'reboot' |
| [08:13:47] | justinh: | that's something though.. search CPAN on the web & it finds MP3::Podcast but I was damned if I could get it on the commandline |
| [08:14:02] | justinh: | doing "i $authorname" didn't find it listed either |
| [08:14:46] | Beirdo: | Oh, for the RSS side, I redid it using Ruby a little while back |
| [08:16:03] | justinh: | but look – http://search.cpan.org/~jmerelo/MP3-Podcast-0 . . . 3/Podcast.pm & I can't find it in CPAN on the commandline. I just ended up adapting it :) |
| [08:19:45] | justinh: | thanks to.. Gavin who? LOL |
| [08:20:10] | justinh: | jees this is one small world |
| [08:20:24] | Beirdo: | Hmm? |
| [08:20:34] | Beirdo: | Ohh, he put in my patch? |
| [08:20:35] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:20:54] | Beirdo: | I can't even remember what I had patched anymore ;) |
| [08:21:07] | justinh: | wonder how come I couldn't grab it yesterday. it's gonna bug me |
| [08:21:41] | justinh: | maybe they changed something & it won't be listed if the change isn't done. dunno how cpan works |
| [08:21:55] | Beirdo: | me neither |
| [08:24:23] | justinh: | it was kinda fun having to learn anyway :) |
| [08:24:52] | Beirdo: | yeah |
| [08:24:59] | Beirdo: | I hear ya |
| [08:25:14] | justinh: | I like/hate perl :) |
| [08:26:00] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [08:26:13] | justinh: | found a one somewhere where it was all web based but didn't want to have to click on a page element to generate the feed. automagical as part of the user job or bust |
| [08:26:15] | Beirdo: | perl can be great... and can be a big PITA at times too |
| [08:26:20] | wagnerrp: | those are unbalanced words |
| [08:26:43] | justinh: | whereas python.. I just out & out hate it :) |
| [08:26:58] | justinh: | and I don't even know *why* . I just *do* |
| [08:27:13] | wagnerrp: | bleh... cant think of a good term for 'apathetic dislike' |
| [08:27:15] | Beirdo: | I know why I've avoided python |
| [08:27:29] | Beirdo: | enforced indents, no { } |
| [08:27:36] | Beirdo: | bleh :) |
| [08:27:48] | justinh: | I did hack up an XBMC script a bit once. damned if I knew what I was doing though |
| [08:28:02] | Beirdo: | I'm a C lover |
| [08:28:13] | wagnerrp: | you mean you dont just indent things because it looks nice? |
| [08:28:15] | Beirdo: | so... python kinda annoys me at times |
| [08:28:32] | Beirdo: | I do, but I like to choose my own style, not have it dictated by the language |
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| [08:29:05] | justinh: | it was certainly an ... interesting decision to do that |
| [08:29:30] | Beirdo: | other than that, python will probably suit me just fine |
| [08:30:04] | justinh: | I just don't see how it's any 'easier' than C++ |
| [08:31:00] | justinh: | anyway, I'm sorted now :D |
| [08:31:05] | wagnerrp: | c++? certainly... c++ with the qt stuff? not so much |
| [08:31:22] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [08:31:25] | wagnerrp: | the qt stuff just makes strings and lists so damn easy |
| [08:31:42] | Beirdo: | qt, well... I'm not much of a lover of that... yet |
| [08:31:45] | Beirdo: | maybe later :) |
| [08:31:49] | justinh: | heh yeah maybe I've only seen C++ from a mythtv perspective |
| [08:32:03] | justinh: | infact yes I *have* only seen it from there |
| [08:32:30] | justinh: | damn, I forgot to enable WoL on my dev box again |
| [08:32:33] | wagnerrp: | justinh: the first time you have to use malloc on your own, youll appreciate interpreted languages |
| [08:32:59] | Beirdo: | heheh |
| [08:33:11] | Beirdo: | I hear ya, wagnerrp... |
| [08:33:19] | Beirdo: | but malloc is fun :) |
| [08:33:23] | justinh: | gonna get cracking working on that theme this weekend. then back to the coding! |
| [08:33:29] | ** Beirdo pokes MythLogBot ** | |
| [08:33:40] | Beirdo: | yon bot has heavy use of malloc/free |
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| [08:33:52] | wagnerrp: | oh sure, until your code bleeds like a sieve |
| [08:33:53] | justinh: | be cool if 0.24 could have my analogue clock widget :) |
| [08:34:18] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: yeah, that IS the problem with malloc. :) and "new" in C++ |
| [08:34:27] | Beirdo: | etc. |
| [08:34:38] | Beirdo: | valgrind is yer friend |
| [08:34:40] | justinh: | be *really* cool if I can get a gaussian blur effect working AND make it able to effect stuff under a popup |
| [08:34:56] | Beirdo: | nice |
| [08:35:07] | Beirdo: | go for it, dude |
| [08:35:13] | justinh: | vertical text will be nice to have too :) |
| [08:35:35] | justinh: | which'll be a happy side-effect of the analogue clock work |
| [08:36:04] | wagnerrp: | i wrote a small networked cluster management program in python, and it worked pretty well besides requiring python |
| [08:36:11] | justinh: | lol |
| [08:36:11] | wagnerrp: | so i rewrote it in C, and it worked pretty well |
| [08:36:24] | wagnerrp: | until about 4 hours later when it got OOM'd |
| [08:36:35] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: valgrind... :) |
| [08:36:49] | Beirdo: | or send me some money and I'll run it for ya :) |
| [08:36:50] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [08:37:28] | justinh: | my real theming holy grail though, would be collapsible pop-out areas |
| [08:37:46] | Beirdo: | make sure to put the holy hand grenade in there too |
| [08:38:02] | wagnerrp: | button time event! |
| [08:38:11] | justinh: | watch recordings. press a button & the group list slides out meaning the *whole* of the screen width can be used without having to resort to horizontal lists |
| [08:38:32] | wagnerrp: | press right to throw the grenade, or the bunny gives you a segfault |
| [08:38:40] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:38:59] | Beirdo: | justinh: sounds neat |
| [08:39:28] | justinh: | I say 'resort to' because for users unaccustomed to switching between areas are gonna get confuzzled.. and they do |
| [08:39:45] | justinh: | because previously all they had was up & down |
| [08:40:19] | justinh: | the more I think about it though, the more it's sounding like fancy CSS tricks |
| [08:41:00] | justinh: | which makes me start to think all the people who say the UI could be web-based were onto something.. and then I remember that themers won't necessarily wanna be CSS gurus |
| [08:41:11] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:41:19] | wagnerrp: | oof |
| [08:41:24] | wagnerrp: | no wonder nfs failed |
| [08:41:27] | Beirdo: | and embed webkit? |
| [08:41:33] | wagnerrp: | i had changed the machine name like two weeks ago |
| [08:41:41] | justinh: | ouchies |
| [08:41:44] | Beirdo: | wagnerrp: oMG, nice work |
| [08:41:52] | wagnerrp: | it took now for the exports to break |
| [08:42:57] | justinh: | Chutt kinda has a good point about wanting to make the UI scriptable but my worry is it'll put the onus on themers to become coders – and there are precious few of either as things are |
| [08:44:08] | AndyCap: | heavy use of malloc/free isn't a problem unless you have more of one than the other. :P |
| [08:44:20] | Beirdo: | yup |
| [08:44:22] | AndyCap: | http://narf-archive.com/pix/ee41f6dcee445485b . . . fe07411.jpeg |
| [08:44:56] | justinh: | heh |
| [08:44:57] | Beirdo: | but I'm quite confident that the instance of beirdobot here has NO memory leak of that sort |
| [08:45:32] | justinh: | ahh YES. South Park has been recorded from Viva! |
| [08:45:43] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [08:45:52] | Beirdo: | anyways, I should hit the sack |
| [08:46:08] | Beirdo: | but I had cappucino.. |
| [08:46:09] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [08:46:28] | Beirdo: | I'm still fading fast though |
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| [08:49:01] | justinh: | note to Radio Times.. Reality shows are NOT documentaries! |
| [08:49:42] | justinh: | and is Relocation, Relocation a documentary? NO |
| [08:50:50] | justinh: | and Come Dine With Me? Give me strength! |
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| [08:54:36] | justinh: | lol also note that Horizon, the BBC's popular documentary programme isn't listed in that category |
| [08:56:35] | Beirdo: | OK, bed :) |
| [08:56:37] | Beirdo: | night |
| [08:57:16] | justinh: | night |
| [09:02:08] | AndyCap: | do they list south park as kids programming too? :P |
| [09:02:15] | justinh: | probably |
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| [09:02:24] | justinh: | animation/cartoon, therefore KIDS! |
| [09:02:47] | justinh: | wonder if Happy Tree Friends has ever been on telly |
| [09:04:21] | justinh: | ah yes, but not in the UK |
| [09:04:41] | justinh: | whoah yes it was. comedy central though. meh |
| [09:07:22] | AndyCap: | hehe |
| [09:10:19] | justinh: | surprisingly a show called 'Big Up Your Mum' isn't being shown on TelevisionX |
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| [09:31:47] | justinh: | hmmm should channels set to 'invisible' appear in program finder etc? |
| [09:33:10] | justinh: | time to look in trunk & see if it's changed |
| [09:38:40] | justinh: | ahh I can see why it's not done. damn |
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| [09:49:24] | justinh: | heh. SELECT DISTINCT program.title from program left join channel ON (program.chanid = channel.chanid) where visible=1; |
| [09:49:41] | justinh: | Ow, that's gonna make one hella slow program finder |
| [10:01:09] | clever: | this is where my all_shows table could come in usefull |
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| [10:01:40] | clever: | it basicaly stores only the unique entryes from the program table |
| [10:01:56] | justinh: | no it isn't |
| [10:02:01] | clever: | select * from allshows where title = 'mythbusters'; == 100 rows |
| [10:02:14] | justinh: | there's still always gonna be a slowup somewhere |
| [10:02:28] | clever: | this doesnt have duplicates, so it wont be as massive as program |
| [10:02:39] | justinh: | hmm maybe |
| [10:03:01] | justinh: | something has to maintain it somewhere though |
| [10:03:22] | clever: | a patch in mythfilldatabase will scrape the program table at the end and update it |
| [10:03:36] | clever: | http://privatepaste.com/d8be67522c |
| [10:03:40] | justinh: | that won't be much good for those who use on air guide data |
| [10:04:03] | clever: | if program is updated, you could put the same patch into mythbackend after the scan |
| [10:04:10] | justinh: | they likely never even run mythfilldatabase. they don't need to :) |
| [10:04:44] | justinh: | so, how do we persuade the powers that be this is all good? ;) |
| [10:05:29] | clever: | i think this might be breaking the TOS for SD |
| [10:05:31] | justinh: | actually, there's little point to this since you'd still have to drill down the program table |
| [10:05:41] | clever: | its archiving data that was scrapped from SD |
| [10:05:56] | clever: | i basicaly have an index of every episode of every tv show that has ever aired |
| [10:07:21] | justinh: | actually I could live with the query being a little slower if it doesn't show junk I don't want to see |
| [10:07:27] | justinh: | I'll put it on my todo list |
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| [10:08:18] | justinh: | the searches could probably use testing the visible flag too |
| [10:08:50] | clever: | with some of my own stuff, i'm starting to lean away from making SQL do all the work |
| [10:09:00] | clever: | i wind up holding a read lock too long and lag everything else |
| [10:09:19] | clever: | i'm switching to simple select querys and processing on the client side |
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| [11:03:07] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: Last night you asked "is there any way to force a specific show for a season/episode number search?" In ttvdb you can use the TVDB number and in jamu you can have the title and TVDB in the jamu.conf file. |
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| [11:10:06] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: I saw you issue with running the MythNetvision python grabbers. The most likely issues are a missing or misconfigured "~/,mythtv/config.xml" file a missing python-pycurl library or MythTV Python bindings install problem, |
| [11:14:40] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: The last pre-req is having a utf8 envionment set up. The part of the error that is most telling is "Error('OutStreamEncoder' object is not callable)". I thought with the latest trunk release you should not get theta error as it is masking the real issue. |
| [11:16:00] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: Can you run other python scripts from the command line? From example Jamu? |
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| [11:37:04] | ikke-t: | what gives, mythtv-22-fixes doesn't find includes... |
| [11:37:13] | ikke-t: | --prefix=/usr/local |
| [11:37:24] | ikke-t: | and it gives me this: |
| [11:38:06] | ikke-t: | /usr/local/include/mythtv/util.h:17:24: error: mythsystem.h: no such file or dir |
| [11:38:30] | ikke-t: | $ find /usr/local/include/ -name mythsystem.h |
| [11:38:30] | ikke-t: | /usr/local/include/mythtv/libmythui/mythsystem.h |
| [11:38:36] | ikke-t: | ? |
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| [11:51:39] | fukdnscerd: | RDV_Linux: |
| [11:51:55] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: Yes |
| [11:52:25] | fukdnscerd: | RDV_Linux: i was told that if i have successfully run any of the myth apps i should have a good config.xml |
| [11:52:49] | fukdnscerd: | all the other prereqs i have made sure are installed, except the utf8 thing |
| [11:53:19] | fukdnscerd: | and i do not use python directly so i dont know what script to try to run. The mythnetvision scripts are the only ones i have even tried to run |
| [11:54:22] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: In most cases that is correct I have seen upgrades that did not work as well. Do you use MythVideo? |
| [11:55:14] | fukdnscerd: | yes, works well after we solved my playback issue.... mixed up libs on upgrade!! |
| [11:55:28] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: When was the last time that you synced with trunk. Most of the MNV grabbers had a small update around a week ago. |
| [11:56:00] | fukdnscerd: | about 28 hours ago |
| [11:57:12] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: Ok then you have some other python scripts to try. Run "locale" from a terminal and pastebin the results and give me the link. |
| [11:58:17] | fukdnscerd: | http://pastebin.com/NwCvEVfQ |
| [12:00:57] | RDV_Linux: | looking now |
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| [12:01:36] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: Well utf8 is not the issue. |
| [12:01:45] | `mousey: | Does anyone know if it's possible to host a primary backend without a tv tuner and get a secondary backend to push all the data to the primary backend? |
| [12:02:01] | fukdnscerd: | its possible |
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| [12:02:22] | fukdnscerd: | i think |
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| [12:03:08] | fukdnscerd: | i have had a secondary backend that i used to push data to manually, and aside from serving my data, all it did was commflag and transcode and such |
| [12:03:24] | RDV_Linux: | `mousey: Why not just use NFS and only have one BE? |
| [12:03:52] | `mousey: | not sure if it's fast enough |
| [12:04:04] | `mousey: | my secondary backend is over wifi, i just want to sync them at night or something like that |
| [12:04:15] | fukdnscerd: | i set mine up that way to reduce load on other systems. had a machine that was very underused |
| [12:04:16] | `mousey: | I guess I can always try and see if NFS is quick enough |
| [12:04:55] | fukdnscerd: | set it up like normal, just don't add any tuners. and set up a script to sync them each night. |
| [12:05:03] | RDV_Linux: | `mousey: It would not do HD content but just may do what you need. |
| [12:06:08] | `mousey: | so I'd setup a primary backend with no tuners, and create a secondary one that just rsyncs them at night? |
| [12:06:23] | `mousey: | RDV_Linux: I'll try a NFS and see how it goes. |
| [12:06:31] | fukdnscerd: | good luck |
| [12:06:43] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: Are you confortable enough making a small code change to one of the MNV grabbers? All you need is a text editor. |
| [12:06:54] | fukdnscerd: | definitely |
| [12:07:14] | RDV_Linux: | ok give me a second and I will tell you what to change. |
| [12:08:31] | `mousey: | how hard is it to change a mythtv configuration. If I try an NFS mount and it's not quick enough, can I easily change the existing system to be a secondary backend |
| [12:09:31] | fukdnscerd: | it is harder to setup nfs than to setup a myth backend, imho |
| [12:09:36] | fukdnscerd: | not that nfs is hard |
| [12:10:19] | `mousey: | nfs is simple, I do it on a few servers at work. (Except getting windows working on it, oh my gosh that was difficult with permissions) |
| [12:10:21] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: Find the MNV "youtube.py" file edit it and change line 198 "#import nv_python_libs.youtube.youtube_api as target" and remove the '#' character. Save the file and retry. Then pastebin the results. |
| [12:10:36] | `mousey: | i'll play around with it. Thanks a lot guys |
| [12:13:21] | fukdnscerd: | http://pastebin.com/Mn7i4NTv |
| [12:13:50] | fukdnscerd: | ive never tried to get nfs working with windows |
| [12:14:07] | fukdnscerd: | i opted to get rid of windows instead |
| [12:16:05] | ikke-t: | any idea why would mythplugins autoconfigure forget /usr/local prefix from include paths? |
| [12:16:42] | ikke-t: | all the sudden I have this in includes: -I/include/mythtv/ |
| [12:16:44] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: I am looking |
| [12:17:54] | fukdnscerd: | i always thought putting windows and linux on the same net was kind of silly, like giving a 5 year old the key to your safe full of money. |
| [12:20:20] | fukdnscerd: | btw RDV_Linux, you have impeccable timing. I woke up to get ready for work about 20 minutes after your first post to me |
| [12:23:10] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: OK the issue is with the MythTV python bindings. I think old one are still being called. Try the command line python I did in this pastebin. You will get an error, pastebin what you get. See http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1835307 |
| [12:23:48] | `mousey: | thanks again for the help fellas |
| [12:23:52] | `mousey: | seeya! |
| [12:23:54] | RDV_Linux: | np |
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| [12:25:19] | fukdnscerd: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1835312 |
| [12:25:25] | fukdnscerd: | good luck |
| [12:26:52] | fukdnscerd: | to cure my mixed libs issue, i did an rm -r on all the myth related stuff and reinstalled. |
| [12:27:10] | fukdnscerd: | so i assume i removed ALL old myth libraries |
| [12:27:45] | fukdnscerd: | it has the same issue accross two of my frontends |
| [12:28:01] | fukdnscerd: | with the netvision i mean |
| [12:29:47] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: You do not have the python "MySQLdb" module installed which is needed by almost all of the MythTV python scripts. |
| [12:30:33] | fukdnscerd: | wow, ok, the rest of myth seemed to work ok too. |
| [12:30:47] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: This module needs to be added to the MythNetvision wiki as a pre-req which I will do. |
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| [12:32:32] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: In Ubuntu the package is called "python-mysqldb" I do not know what it is called for you distro |
| [12:32:54] | fukdnscerd: | nice, that took care of it |
| [12:33:02] | fukdnscerd: | thanks alot |
| [12:33:10] | fukdnscerd: | that started my morning off on a good foot |
| [12:34:02] | fukdnscerd: | hmmm... now i wonder what i may have been missing all this time without that module |
| [12:34:57] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: It is only need by python scripts that use the MythTV python bindings that access the MtyhTV data base. |
| [12:35:41] | RDV_Linux: | fukdnscerd: Those include the MNV grabbers, Jamu and Mirobridge |
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| [12:36:59] | fukdnscerd: | hmm.. my other fe already has the module and same errors... I havent gone over the prereqs a 2nd time on this one tho. no time to troubleshoot right now though. off to work. Thanks a lot RDV_Linux: and to everyone else in the channel that has been such a help. I really appreciate it!! |
| [12:38:46] | RDV_Linux: | np |
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| [13:07:11] | ikke-t: | make distclean fixed my issue... |
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| [13:09:38] | xbmc: | diskless client often has connection iisues to server |
| [13:09:46] | xbmc: | and fails to finish booting |
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| [13:14:46] | justinh: | nasty |
| [13:15:10] | justinh: | though the NIC on my frontend sometimes doesn't initialise properly & fails to boot. Just have to power cycle it |
| [13:15:49] | xbmc: | just looking in /etc//default/dhcp3 server and notivced it waas not set to eth0 |
| [13:16:06] | xbmc: | does it ned to be ? if that is the port I am using |
| [13:16:12] | justinh: | what was it set to? |
| [13:16:22] | xbmc: | sorry bad english again |
| [13:16:34] | xbmc: | interfaces "" |
| [13:16:46] | xbmc: | so I chnaged to eth0 |
| [13:17:20] | xbmc: | On what interfaces should the DHCP server (dhcpd) serve DHCP requests? |
| [13:17:20] | xbmc: | # Separate multiple interfaces with spaces, e.g. "eth0 eth1". |
| [13:17:20] | xbmc: | INTERFACES="eth0" |
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| [13:18:02] | xbmc: | I am using my MBE as my dhcp server |
| [13:18:47] | xbmc: | Ill attempt a reboot |
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| [13:19:14] | justinh: | whoah |
| [13:19:31] | justinh: | well that's one way to restart the dhcp server |
| [13:20:25] | Dibblah: | But everyone knows that if you don't reboot, changes don't take effect. Duuuh. |
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| [13:21:56] | xbmc: | well thats 2 outa 2 |
| [13:22:38] | xbmc: | ill go try on my other diskless fe |
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| [13:25:04] | dad__: | hmmm |
| [13:26:06] | dad__: | other fe stooping at udhcpc[339] :lease of 192.168.1.12 obtained lease time 43200 |
| [13:26:33] | dad__: | error;connect;connection refused |
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| [13:34:36] | tank-man: | wow, recorded "30 rock" yesterday and all the commercials have way lower volume than the main program |
| [13:36:14] | tank-man: | seems like they are actively targeting mythtv users with this, unless there are other dvr's that auto skip commercials |
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| [15:06:56] | GenericHuman: | hello everyone |
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| [15:10:44] | ravalox: | Tell me if you've heard this one, a guy walks into a bar with a PVR500 and says "hey, for years this thing has worked well but I upgraded to mythbuntu 9.10 and now the lower channels are really grainy" |
| [15:11:10] | ravalox: | Is there a happy ending to this joke or is there bad news to be had; is ivtv screwed up somehow in the new version? |
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| [15:21:57] | GenericHuman: | question : current situation=4 quattro-lnbs->17/8 switch->settopbox/room, can i replace with myhtv as in from the switch to a backend(with dvb-s card/room + extra for pvr )->over utp to frontends? |
| [15:23:44] | devinheitmueller: | ravalox: he should make sure that his capture profile isn't set to 480x480. |
| [15:24:04] | ravalox: | Interesting, that would only effect the low channels? |
| [15:24:13] | devinheitmueller: | (which if I recall, is the default he will get on a fresh install of 9.10) |
| [15:24:22] | devinheitmueller: | No, that would not be specific to the lower channels. |
| [15:24:38] | devinheitmueller: | That could indeed be some sort of tuner driver bug. |
| [15:24:48] | ravalox: | Should it be set to 640x480? |
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| [15:27:49] | devinheitmueller: | ravalox: 720x480 would be the optimal value. |
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| [15:52:16] | [Peter]: | what's the odds of #6753 being fixed before the 0.23 release? |
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| [16:06:14] | iamlindoro: | Milestoned for .23, so better than average |
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| [16:58:08] | warlord: | Hmm, that was interesting. My recording of Cobert last night was truncated (only 5 minutes).. So I Deleted and said to allow record later. But even though there are two more showings today it wouldn't schedule one. Is this a bug or a config issue? |
| [16:58:45] | warlord: | Even after clicking "Forget Old" it didn't set it up to re-record.. only have I clicked on "Record This" did it set it up. |
| [16:58:52] | warlord: | (this is Trunk built yesterday) |
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| [17:01:16] | iamlindoro: | warlord: does your Colbert record rule specify to only record new, non-repeat episodes? |
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| [17:02:27] | iamlindoro: | I suspect it's that or guide data differences-- as scheduling itself has not changed at all in a very long time |
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| [17:14:09] | sphery: | warlord: also, you should really look at the Upcoming Recordings screen in mythfrontend to see /why/ it said it was not going to record the upcoming episode |
| [17:17:07] | warlord: | iamlindoro: It's set to Find One Daily. |
| [17:17:53] | warlord: | Filter is "exclude generic episodes" |
| [17:18:51] | sphery: | Find one is unaffected by allow re-record--it already found one within that 24-hr period |
| [17:19:07] | sphery: | (where the period starts at the starttime recorded in the recording rule) |
| [17:19:27] | warlord: | Huh.. ISTR 0.22 behaving differently with the "Allow re-record" |
| [17:19:33] | warlord: | .. even with the Find One Daily |
| [17:19:53] | warlord: | .. and even with the "Forget Old", which should tell it "this was never recorded".. |
| [17:20:06] | sphery: | Allow re-record only affects dupliate matching |
| [17:20:17] | sphery: | Find one is /not/ a duplicate matching scheme |
| [17:21:12] | warlord: | I suppose I could change it to "anytime on channel" |
| [17:21:34] | warlord: | (I dont recall why I did it this way) |
| [17:21:46] | sphery: | I'd consider a a patch that fixes the Forget Old to also reset the findtime iff the show is deleted and forget old'ed on the day it was recorded to be potentially valid, but that's not how it currently works |
| [17:22:16] | sphery: | That one may be one where it doesn't provide useful scheduling/duplicate-matching information--like The Daily Show |
| [17:22:50] | sphery: | for these reasons: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/153872#153872 |
| [17:22:53] | warlord: | I'm not sure why TDS would be any different that TCR |
| [17:23:17] | sphery: | right, that's what I'd guess (though I don't get either, so I can't compare the listings info) |
| [17:23:52] | sphery: | if you read that post and the "because ..." reasons for dup matching failures apply, then you likely have a proper rule |
| [17:24:23] | sphery: | I think the right approach is exactly what you did--Delete + allow re-record, then select a different episode to Record This |
| [17:24:33] | sphery: | that way users who want the new recording get it, those who don't, don't |
| [17:25:17] | sphery: | and we don't need complex code that decides whether to update the findtime for find one rules only when you delete a recording from the same daily period under which the recording was made |
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| [17:26:47] | warlord: | Last time I looked at the scheduler code my brain started to hurt badly. |
| [17:27:15] | sphery: | yeah--and you didn't even have to go through the process of getting changes approved by the scheduler gatekeepers |
| [17:27:34] | warlord: | heh. |
| [17:27:35] | sphery: | (who are--for good reason--very careful about applying any changes to it) |
| [17:27:51] | warlord: | Is David still around? |
| [17:27:55] | iamlindoro: | Yep |
| [17:29:14] | warlord: | Well, he and I got along back-in-the-day.... ;) |
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| [17:46:07] | warlord: | FWIW, iamlindoro, the recording I want to show does have a unique program id: EP007746990735 |
| [17:46:29] | iamlindoro: | But as sphery explained, that is not the source of your issue |
| [17:46:43] | iamlindoro: | merely that find one per day doesn't behave as you thought it did |
| [17:47:04] | sphery: | programid is for dup matching |
| [17:47:43] | sphery: | if all the Colbert eps seem to have good (non-0000-ending) programid's, then you could just change to a record all and let dup-matching do its job. |
| [17:47:43] | warlord: | Well, my point being if I just change to a Channel Record it would probably DWIW |
| [17:48:05] | sphery: | right, if that holds true for most/all of the eps, it would be the best approach |
| [17:48:10] | warlord: | I wish MythWeb's JS Popup would show me the program ID |
| [17:48:33] | wagnerrp: | the detailed description page should |
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| [17:49:20] | warlord: | Yeah, but then I have to go click on each one I want to check, wait for it to load, blah. FF3.5.6 is dang slow with JS pages, so it takes a good minute per page to load/display |
| [17:49:32] | sphery: | warlord: or just change the rule type, check upcoming recordings, see if it has you recording 10M episodes, and--if so--change it back |
| [17:49:54] | sphery: | or use the frontend and the speculative scheduler (which may or may not be functional--I can't remember) |
| [17:50:08] | sphery: | it would allow you to see the changes without making the change to the type |
| [17:50:14] | wagnerrp: | FF35 shouldnt take anything like that much time for the detail page |
| [17:51:03] | sphery: | especially if you use middle-/ctrl-click to pop up new tabs for each episode |
| [17:51:44] | sphery: | search Colbert, ctrl-click a bunch of episodes, click to the first tab with a detail, look at programid, ctrl-w, look, ctrl-w, ... |
| [17:52:24] | warlord: | sphery: FF35 blows chunks. It brings redisplay to a standstill.. And if I login to my vmware-server .... forget it. It takes multiple minutes to display anything. |
| [17:53:06] | Beirdo: | how much memory is it using? How many open tabs? |
| [17:53:08] | warlord: | Anyways, with a sample size of 2, the 11:30pm TCR have valid (non-generic) episode numbers. I haven't checked the repeats, yet. |
| [17:53:11] | wagnerrp: | if your FF35 is that slow on mythweb, either you have a botched FF config (or a bad plugin), or mythweb is screwed up |
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| [17:53:25] | warlord: | Beirdo: I've got like 60 windows, with about 300 tabs or so. :-D |
| [17:53:32] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:53:41] | Beirdo: | if you're serious, that's your reason |
| [17:53:42] | sphery: | warlord: yeah, 3.6 is much improved over 3.5 |
| [17:53:57] | sphery: | especially with lots of tabs/windows open |
| [17:53:58] | wagnerrp: | 'and i should be able to do that with only 1GB of memory' |
| [17:53:59] | Beirdo: | it has to swap to do ANYTHING |
| [17:54:16] | warlord: | I've got 8GB ram. Nothing is swapping. |
| [17:54:20] | sphery: | though 3.6 has the annoying feature that it just crashes when it's unhappy |
| [17:54:33] | sphery: | (and corrupts the places.sqlite in the process :( ) |
| [17:54:36] | warlord: | 3.5 crashes a lot, too. |
| [17:54:37] | AndyCap: | sphery: first it pisses away all your ram. |
| [17:54:42] | wagnerrp: | sphery: cant say ive ever had either of them crash |
| [17:54:59] | warlord: | FF crashes on me almost daily. |
| [17:55:08] | wagnerrp: | but then im never running more than a dozen or two windows |
| [17:55:12] | warlord: | Yes, I know, I should really work on reducing the number of open windows. |
| [17:55:15] | wagnerrp: | s/windows/tabs/ |
| [17:55:25] | sphery: | wagnerrp: only happens for me when I have a ton of windows/tabs open and I try to open a new JS-heavy page |
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| [17:55:38] | sphery: | might be Rhino that's the problem, but the symptom is FF crashing |
| [17:55:39] | warlord: | Like I said, I have about 60 windows. Each window has anywhere from 1–15 tabs |
| [17:55:55] | Beirdo: | 8GB is not likely enough for that many tabs |
| [17:56:03] | sphery: | (technically, Namoroka crashes, but that's only because I don't agree with FF's stupid license for using their name) |
| [17:56:23] | sphery: | it's not actually the dev version--just FF with the name license declined |
| [17:56:45] | sphery: | oh, and it does wonderful things to the broken browser-detection used by a lot of stupid websites |
| [17:57:08] | warlord: | It's only using 4GB: warlord 8439 97.3 37.2 4221624 3035644 pts/10 Rl+ Mar10 2259:20 /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.8/firefox |
| [17:57:20] | sphery: | "The browser Namoroka is not supported. Please install Internet Explorer or Firefox. |
| [17:57:38] | wagnerrp: | sounds like time for a UA switcher |
| [17:57:39] | warlord: | sphery: Just reset your Agent |
| [17:57:53] | sphery: | I can't--I didn't agree to the terms of using the Firefox name. :) |
| [17:58:07] | sphery: | Doing so would be in violation of their trademark. |
| [17:58:31] | sphery: | I just don't use broken websites--I send them e-mails (and once, someone actually fixed their website!) |
| [17:58:54] | warlord: | sphery: they have "Mozilla" trademarked? |
| [18:00:08] | warlord: | Anyways, thanks. Looks like I can probably just swap over to Channel Record. That web page was from 5 years ago — looks like Comedy Central fixed their guide listings in the intervening years. |
| [18:01:01] | Beirdo: | warlord: there may be a 4G limit per process, remember |
| [18:01:13] | Beirdo: | system resource limiting... |
| [18:03:10] | sphery: | warlord: my UA string is "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/20100206 Namoroka/3.6" , so they use Mozilla (like everyone from MS IE to Seamonkey to Firefox), but they don't use Firefox |
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| [18:03:41] | warlord: | stacksize is limited, as are #descriptors, locked memoty, and maxproc. |
| [18:04:02] | warlord: | sphery: odd... |
| [18:04:12] | warlord: | sphery: Make it say IE? ;) |
| [18:04:56] | sphery: | heh |
| [18:05:17] | sphery: | I prefer to boycott websites with ignorant web developers |
| [18:05:33] | warlord: | unfortunately that's a vast majority of them out there. :( |
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| [18:06:11] | warlord: | I wish my HD and SD recordings had similar volume output. :( |
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| [18:10:46] | sphery: | The lower power usage is nice, but I did have to give up a few things though. I no longer have storage on the backend, and I turned off all commercial flagging which wasn't a big deal as I wasn't using it anyway. I'm using nfs shares on the freenas server for the video directory and sabnzbd plus usenet download directory and no problems so far. I had the via board setting around for a few years and never really used it. Will ... |
| [18:10:52] | sphery: | ... also use an old pc for slave backend duty to add my other two tuners into. |
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| [18:11:24] | sphery: | how could you not use comm flagging wiht Myth? |
| [18:11:34] | sphery: | why would you suffer through commercials? |
| [18:11:42] | warlord: | Beirdo: Does x86_64 have that? I didn't think it did. |
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| [18:12:51] | sphery: | rlimit? |
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| [18:15:10] | wagnerrp: | sphery: youre missing the bigger issue |
| [18:15:16] | wagnerrp: | 'usenet download directory' |
| [18:15:36] | sphery: | heh, I didn't notice that |
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| [18:16:05] | sphery: | I suppose it's not just for the C++ newsgroup? |
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| [18:17:19] | Geminizer: | Hello all. Is there a way I can use the CLI to invoke the same commands a remote control does (e.g. up down, enter, digit entry) for MythTV |
| [18:17:34] | wagnerrp: | Geminizer: not exactly, see telnet interface |
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| [18:21:08] | Geminizer: | wagnerrp: perfect, thanks |
| [18:21:34] | wagnerrp: | note that in 0.22, you can only have one connection open at a time |
| [18:21:49] | wagnerrp: | so if youre triggering commands rapid-fire |
| [18:21:55] | wagnerrp: | you may end up in a race condition |
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| [18:22:11] | wagnerrp: | (depending on how you plan to use it) |
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| [18:25:39] | warlord: | sphery: I dont use comm flagging.. I just use the 30s jump to get through them. |
| [18:27:09] | sphery: | I guess that's still better than live TV, but one button press "perfect skip" is a wonderful thing |
| [18:28:06] | sphery: | (I still use notify because the show is actually easier to follow if you know there's a commercial break in there--and it serves as a reminder that "now is a good time to go get another snack." :) |
| [18:29:01] | warlord: | That presupposes perfect skip. Last time I tried it it was far from perfect. But that was years ago. |
| [18:29:36] | sphery: | on most of my shows it is |
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| [18:31:01] | sphery: | granted, outside the US, that's not always the case, I've heard |
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| [18:36:28] | warlord: | I'm in the US.. but... last I tried was many years ago. |
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| [18:37:19] | iamlindoro: | kormoc: Hey there-- can you remind me what's still needed to make the vote site go live? I think I read your message in the middle of the night in a daze |
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| [18:37:31] | iamlindoro: | something about xris approve Zzzzzzzzz :) |
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| [18:57:52] | jolaren: | I can't get channel lock on af ew channels |
| [18:57:55] | jolaren: | I dont know why |
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| [18:59:25] | devinheitmueller: | jolaren: which tuner is it? |
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| [19:06:02] | warlord: | jolaren: what are you using as your tuner input hardware? |
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| [19:06:58] | iamlindoro: | There appears to be an echo in here |
| [19:07:09] | devinheitmueller: | ;-) |
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| [19:07:51] | iamlindoro: | Maybe I can jumble up the words and ask the exact same question too |
| [19:08:03] | iamlindoro: | what card is in your computer to do tuning? |
| [19:08:09] | devinheitmueller: | tuner you have, which one? /yoda |
| [19:08:27] | iamlindoro: | well done |
| [19:08:36] | devinheitmueller: | ls -l ga_auth.c |
| [19:08:39] | devinheitmueller: | doh, wrong window. |
| [19:09:03] | warlord: | Hey, if you don't want my help....... :-P |
| [19:10:16] | iamlindoro: | We aren't the ones who asked for help, merely pointing out that asking the same exact question that has gone unanswered is a little silly/funny |
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| [19:14:22] | warlord: | Well, sometimes users don't actually understand the question and therefore don't respond. |
| [19:14:42] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [19:14:53] | warlord: | I'm just curious is jolaren is hitting the same HDHR issue I am. |
| [19:15:01] | iamlindoro: | he's not using an HDHomeRun |
| [19:15:02] | wagnerrp: | yes... 'what tuner is it' is such a hard one |
| [19:15:32] | warlord: | Hey, i've run into users (in another context) that don't understand the basics of the s/w they are using and asking for help about. |
| [19:16:00] | ** iamlindoro sighs ** | |
| [19:16:31] | kormoc: | well |
| [19:16:44] | kormoc: | we could let warlord do all the support if he feels we're not doing it well enough |
| [19:16:44] | iamlindoro: | It wouldn't be the internet if people admitted they sounded silly, I guess |
| [19:17:09] | iamlindoro: | This channel already has a bad enough reputation |
| [19:17:24] | warlord: | kormoc: you'll get pretty bad support if you left it all to me. |
| [19:17:55] | jolaren: | I'm using a Hauppage Wintv Nova-t 500 |
| [19:17:58] | jolaren: | warlord: |
| [19:17:59] | kormoc: | and yet you complain that we're not clear enough with someone we've worked with for months... |
| [19:18:00] | warlord: | iamlindoro: I'm happy to admit asking the same question a second time can sound silly. |
| [19:18:03] | jolaren: | It has worked just fine always |
| [19:18:06] | jolaren: | This happend yesterday |
| [19:18:31] | jolaren: | Just stopped workin |
| [19:18:35] | jolaren: | all free channels btw |
| [19:19:17] | ** warlord steps aside to let the experts help. ** | |
| [19:19:50] | kormoc: | run the backend with -v most and see if it spits anything useful out? |
| [19:21:06] | iamlindoro: | Heh... I unprotected the HD-PVR page so that a guy could add that for S/PDIF capture to work, you have to have a working cable. |
| [19:21:11] | iamlindoro: | I do so love wiki wisdom |
| [19:21:42] | devinheitmueller: | jolaren: power down your PC, turn it back on and see if tuning starts to work. |
| [19:21:51] | kormoc: | that's so non-intuitive |
| [19:21:56] | iamlindoro: | "SPDIF digital audio capture works under 0.22, but you have to be certain your TOSLINK optical cable is functional. A good indicator is if after you plug it into your source, a bright red light comes out the other end. " |
| [19:22:00] | kormoc: | Working cables! *Piff* |
| [19:22:01] | devinheitmueller: | The Nova-T 500 has a specific issue where the tuner gets whacked out after a warm reboot. |
| [19:22:04] | iamlindoro: | <headdesk> |
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| [19:23:38] | jolaren: | devinheitmueller: will give that a go |
| [19:23:42] | jolaren: | devinheitmueller: total shutdown? |
| [19:23:57] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, as in power down the PC. A reboot isn't good enough. Wait ten seconds before powering it back up. |
| [19:24:30] | devinheitmueller: | If that helps, then we know what the issue is. If not, then we can debug from there. |
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| [19:30:05] | justinh: | ah nuts. got jobs held up because commercials are supposed to be flagged but I've disabled flagging |
| [19:40:33] | justinh: | hahaha unclogged the backlog. I win :) |
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| [19:43:30] | justinh: | don't try this at home kids.. update jobqueue set status="272", comment="Successfully completed. Hacked" where type=2 and status=1; |
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| [19:44:05] | iamlindoro: | Don't try this at home... but if you do, here's exactly how to do it. |
| [19:44:06] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [19:44:09] | AndyCap: | justinh: hey, now all my programmes says Hacked. You broke my box! |
| [19:44:52] | iamlindoro: | Don't shoot yourself if the face, kids. But if you do, load your firearm properly. ;) |
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| [19:45:37] | justinh: | all methods to cure blockages come with risks ;) |
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| [19:46:04] | justinh: | all methods to cure blockages come with risks ;) |
| [19:46:08] | justinh: | whoops |
| [19:46:08] | iamlindoro: | Mythamucil |
| [19:46:18] | justinh: | MythLax |
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| [19:48:42] | dustybin: | MythCool |
| [19:49:22] | ** iamlindoro fires up MythKickBan ** | |
| [19:49:44] | justinh: | wth? ffmpeg is running at nice -n19 & is writing at about 2k/sec |
| [19:51:06] | justinh: | and after renicing it.. still slow as heck.. hrm |
| [19:52:19] | justinh: | ahh try renicing the right process |
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| [19:53:44] | jolaren: | Turning off the server was not the solution |
| [19:54:30] | kormoc: | niceall! |
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| [20:09:56] | iamlindoro: | Heh... someone on the wiki wanting to argue that because you have to compile a driver for a tuner, that it should be considered unsupported |
| [20:10:07] | ** iamlindoro thinks someone is new to linux ** | |
| [20:10:52] | wagnerrp: | same guy who you reverted a couple days ago? |
| [20:11:33] | iamlindoro: | yeah |
| [20:12:36] | devinheitmueller: | I saw some sketchy comments on the kworld 120 page when I looked this morning. |
| [20:13:16] | devinheitmueller: | Crap. Nevermind. That was the linuxtv.org wiki (I monitor both) |
| [20:13:30] | wagnerrp: | 'you have to be certain your TOSLINK optical cable is functional'.... i didnt realize those went bad |
| [20:13:40] | wagnerrp: | people have problems with bending them too sharply and cracking them? |
| [20:14:11] | iamlindoro: | maybe, made it generic and actually accurate to not risk offending the guy |
| [20:14:15] | iamlindoro: | rather than revert outright |
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| [20:15:22] | devinheitmueller: | There's actually a couple of pretty big issues with the mythtv dvb-t scanning on the 4000. I'm surprised more people haven't complained. |
| [20:16:07] | devinheitmueller: | I can only assume those users are importing a channels.conf. |
| [20:17:27] | iamlindoro: | devinheitmueller: This is not at all intended as a typical "patches welcome," but if you could give any direction on what the specific issues are I know for a fact we'd appreciate |
| [20:17:32] | iamlindoro: | it |
| [20:18:33] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, I don't have firsthand experience with the board. Just based on debugging with other users, it looks like there is a timing race when closing/opening the DVB device too quickly, and there is a problem with specifying AUTO mode for a couple of the parameters when doing the tuning request. |
| [20:19:13] | devinheitmueller: | One of the bugs a user worked around by adding a msleep(500) to the code. Although I don't remember whether he did it to the driver or the mythtv code. :-/ |
| [20:19:32] | devinheitmueller: | The sleep was obviously just a hack, but it did demonstrate that there was a race condition. |
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| [20:21:11] | iamlindoro: | janneg might have a comment on some of that, I feel like he made some comment re: cards which have trouble with AUTO, hopefully he sees this and it helps him |
| [20:21:22] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah. |
| [20:21:41] | devinheitmueller: | Don't get me wrong – it is probably demonstrating a bug in the driver if the driver claims the card supports auto. But it's not safe to assume that all cards support auto mode. |
| [20:22:01] | devinheitmueller: | (the driver announces whether it supports auto in the capabilities section of the DVB_INFO response) |
| [20:22:24] | devinheitmueller: | I believe the mythtv scanner was converted to *always* specify auto, regardless of whether the card claimed to support it. |
| [20:22:47] | devinheitmueller: | perhaps naively.... |
| [20:23:33] | devinheitmueller: | It would be an easy mistake to make if you happened to be rewriting the scanner and you happened to have a card which did support auto mode. |
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| [20:27:46] | justinh: | what we really need is to drive the scanner better via something wizard-like |
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| [20:28:05] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Good god! This guy doesn't want to quit. |
| [20:28:13] | iamlindoro: | devinheitmueller may enjoy the wiki history too |
| [20:28:21] | justinh: | something like that is in the pipeline somewhere but way, way off :) |
| [20:28:27] | ** devinheitmueller looks ** | |
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| [20:29:05] | wagnerrp: | heheh.... 'stop reverting me or i wont be your friend' |
| [20:29:08] | iamlindoro: | "And please stop changing my input. If you do, I won't add more stuff to this site and you can have it all by your self." |
| [20:29:09] | iamlindoro: | hahahah |
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| [20:29:17] | devinheitmueller: | lord. |
| [20:29:29] | iamlindoro: | Please leave my incorrect information in the wiki otherwise I won't put any more incorrect information here in the future |
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| [20:29:32] | devinheitmueller: | Tell him to logon to #mythtv-users so we can discuss the issue. Much better than battling via commits. |
| [20:30:20] | iamlindoro: | done |
| [20:31:01] | devinheitmueller: | Generally speaking, I don't claim something is supported until the code at least gets into v4l-dvb. Otherwise, I would be claiming a bunch of devices work just as long as you download the source tree from KernelLabs. |
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| [20:31:51] | iamlindoro: | devinheitmueller: is the HVR-4000 driver in v4l-dvb? |
| [20:31:55] | devinheitmueller: | yup. |
| [20:31:58] | wagnerrp: | devinheitmueller: well in that case, there is unofficial support from <insert link> |
| [20:31:59] | devinheitmueller: | Has been for quite a while. |
| [20:32:05] | iamlindoro: | Quod Erat Demonstratum :) |
| [20:32:30] | iamlindoro: | s/demonstratum/Demonsstrandum/ |
| [20:32:34] | iamlindoro: | bah, Demonstrandum |
| [20:34:46] | iamlindoro: | Hmm, ever wonder what people would think of you based on your google search history? I look up so much stuff every day and seeing it days later I wonder what people would imagine... just toggled to my browser with the wiki up and my google search term in the corner was "The rape of nanking" |
| [20:35:06] | devinheitmueller: | heh. |
| [20:35:16] | devinheitmueller: | that's why mine gets cleared automatically whenever I close FireFox. |
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| [21:05:03] | justinh: | bah ffmpeg only supports 30 char comment tags |
| [21:06:21] | justinh: | and why doesn't ffmpeg come with a blimmin quiet flag enabled?! |
| [21:06:44] | justinh: | user job here is slowed down because of all the stupid log output |
| [21:06:47] | AndyCap: | devinheitmueller: google still knows. |
| [21:07:12] | devinheitmueller: | AndyCap: only if I used Google. |
| [21:07:38] | devinheitmueller: | I assumed iamlindoro was referring to browser history. |
| [21:07:51] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [21:08:24] | wagnerrp: | searching for 'wetriffs' again? |
| [21:09:53] | keith4: | I have two dedicated frontends. How can I switch from watching liveTV on one to watching it on the other, without missing anything? |
| [21:10:11] | wagnerrp: | keith4: hit 'r' to turn livetv into a recording |
| [21:10:18] | wagnerrp: | and then pick up the recording from 'watch recordings' |
| [21:11:02] | wagnerrp: | didnt linuxmce support migrating one livetv session to a second frontend? |
| [21:11:08] | keith4: | can I turn liveTV into a recording on one, back out to the main menu, and then go to the other frontend? or will this require walking back and forth twice |
| [21:11:34] | wagnerrp: | once you turn it into a recording, you can exit |
| [21:11:38] | AndyCap: | keith4: just walk forth and don't look back |
| [21:11:44] | wagnerrp: | and it will act just like any other scheduled recording |
| [21:11:49] | keith4: | I think I tried that, and the 2nd frontend started at the beginning of the show |
| [21:12:09] | AndyCap: | keith4: oh, hit enter or something to make a bookmark first? |
| [21:12:16] | keith4: | ooh, good idea |
| [21:12:20] | wagnerrp: | didnt someone patch that a while back to automatically add a bookmark when you turned livetv into a recording? |
| [21:12:34] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: with a config option probably? :P |
| [21:13:06] | keith4: | excellent. I'll try it when I get home from work |
| [21:13:46] | keith4: | or rather... I'll teach the woman how to do it, so that she doesn't call me at work and complain that she missed 10 minutes of some stupid show when she went downstairs to watch |
| [21:14:32] | AndyCap: | keith4: would require that the keys are available on the remote? |
| [21:14:50] | keith4: | remote? ha. wireless keyboard |
| [21:15:06] | AndyCap: | the waf must be through the roof. :P |
| [21:20:27] | iamlindoro: | In fairness, most remotes have a record key and a select key, the two keys in question :) |
| [21:20:41] | iamlindoro: | so having the keys available on the remote not an issue for most |
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| [21:26:09] | justinh: | teach.. the woman? heh if she finds out you call her that.. |
| [21:29:02] | AndyCap: | justinh: as opposed to battle-ax, dragon, pitbull, |
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| [21:30:39] | Beirdo2: | Blah :) |
| [21:31:16] | AndyCap: | iamlindoro: yes,I was thinking of them actually being mapped to the functions described |
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| [21:45:50] | iamlindoro: | http://www.blogcdn.com/hd.engadget.com/media/ . . . 4dbstalk.jpg Excellent visual aid for people complaining about Myth channel change times |
| [21:46:07] | iamlindoro: | 3.1–4.2 second channel change times on DirecTV boxes |
| [21:46:25] | iamlindoro: | I suspect our guide scrolling is *much* better than that, too |
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| [21:47:51] | wagnerrp: | well we do have FAR more power to work with |
| [21:48:43] | iamlindoro: | True, but just making the point that those arguing that the STB experience of channel changing is so much better are deluding themselves |
| [21:48:48] | iamlindoro: | at least, when DVR STBs are concerned |
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| [21:51:40] | iridium: | hello |
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| [21:52:45] | iridium: | I bought a new Skystar HD2 tv card a few days ago |
| [21:52:55] | iridium: | and I'm currently trying to get it working with mythtv |
| [21:53:13] | iridium: | it is correctly detected by the mantis kernel module |
| [21:53:26] | iridium: | mythtv is compiled with DVB-S2 support enabled |
| [21:54:04] | iridium: | however, when trying to start a channel scan, I get the following error message (mythtv-setup): |
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| [21:54:07] | iridium: | 2010-03–12 22:48:42.937 DVBSM(/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0), Error: Can not read DVB status |
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| [21:54:11] | PeaceKeeper: | iamlindoro: you know what ever happened to the twitter addon the mythtv? |
| [21:54:21] | iridium: | eno: Invalid argument (22) |
| [21:54:24] | iridium: | and hints? |
| [21:54:33] | bjd: | PeaceKeeper: does it twit what you are watching? :p |
| [21:54:57] | PeaceKeeper: | I think the video I saw what a basic twitter client. not sure all the features |
| [21:55:02] | iamlindoro: | PeaceKeeper: What did you want to know about it? |
| [21:55:10] | iamlindoro: | I wrote it, so ideally I know what is up with it ;) |
| [21:55:17] | Beirdo2: | Let's hope not |
| [21:55:26] | PeaceKeeper: | If it was still happening or not. It looked nice |
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| [21:55:48] | iamlindoro: | and yes, you could theoretically tweet while watching something after the video playback/OSD branch is merged |
| [21:56:19] | iamlindoro: | dunno what constituted "happening," exactly, it's there if anyone wants to compile and use it, sitting in trac in a ticket |
| [21:56:21] | PeaceKeeper: | nice! that is what I woudl be interested in. tweeting during a season final or soemthing |
| [21:56:27] | iamlindoro: | so more like "happened," I guess |
| [21:56:28] | AndyCap: | iridium: does the driver look to work ok from the dmesg output ? |
| [21:56:49] | iamlindoro: | iridium: A single line of log output is not going to help, we need a pastebin of full backend logs |
| [21:56:50] | PeaceKeeper: | iamlindoro: ahh nice. ok :) I will check it out. Thank you! |
| [21:56:54] | iamlindoro: | np |
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| [21:57:05] | iridium: | AndyCap: yes |
| [21:57:06] | iridium: | it does |
| [21:57:16] | iridium: | I can also watch tv using mplayer |
| [21:57:30] | iridium: | iamlindoro: what part of the logs do you need? |
| [21:57:34] | iridium: | that's not from the backend |
| [21:57:37] | iamlindoro: | all of them |
| [21:57:39] | iamlindoro: | mythtv-setup |
| [21:57:43] | iridium: | the two lines above are the mythtv-setup output |
| [21:57:58] | iridium: | ok |
| [21:58:40] | wagnerrp: | why is intel keeping the Pentium name around? |
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| [21:59:01] | iridium: | AndyCap, iamlindoro: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1836088 |
| [22:00:20] | AndyCap: | iridium: is the user allowed to open those devices? |
| [22:00:24] | iamlindoro: | iridium: Are you using any DiSEqC equipment? a sat switch, multiple LNBs, etc. |
| [22:00:39] | iridium: | iamlindoro: nope. the tv card is directly connected to the LNB |
| [22:00:55] | iamlindoro: | DiSEqCDevTree, Warning: No device tree for cardid 4 |
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| [22:00:58] | iamlindoro: | You haven't set up the LNB |
| [22:00:58] | iridium: | I replaced an old skystad card with the new DVB-S2 capable one |
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| [22:02:21] | Dibblah: | Please, please don't link the twitter plugin up to the events interface. There's waaaay too much junk out there without people twittering completely pointless stuff :) |
| [22:02:50] | Dibblah: | Wait – What do I mean without? |
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| [22:03:24] | wagnerrp: | 'hey world, my scheduler just ran!' |
| [22:04:05] | iridium: | iamlindoro: argh, that's right |
| [22:04:08] | iridium: | thank you |
| [22:04:09] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: better go catch it then |
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| [22:04:17] | iridium: | fixed it |
| [22:04:21] | Dibblah: | @Dibblah is watching "Midget elf porn – Volume 1" |
| [22:04:23] | iridium: | the devicetree warning disappeared |
| [22:04:38] | iridium: | the DVBSM error still remains |
| [22:05:09] | Dibblah: | iridium: Pastebin full logs. |
| [22:05:41] | iridium: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1836102 |
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| [22:13:50] | iridium: | no ideas? |
| [22:13:58] | iridium: | kernel is 2.6.32.9 |
| [22:14:11] | iridium: | v4l-dvb from linuxtv hg |
| [22:14:27] | Dibblah: | None of those are fatal errors. |
| [22:14:39] | Dibblah: | Have you tried just... Using it? :) |
| [22:14:43] | iridium: | no |
| [22:14:48] | iridium: | err |
| [22:14:48] | iridium: | yes |
| [22:14:51] | iridium: | it doesn't work |
| [22:15:09] | iridium: | when I try to do a "Scan of all existing transports" in mythtv-setup |
| [22:15:23] | iridium: | it fails with the error message "Error tuning to transport" |
| [22:15:37] | iridium: | and outputs the errors I've copied to pastebin to stdout/err |
| [22:21:06] | iridium: | btw: the mythtv i am using is the current svn version |
| [22:21:30] | iridium: | r23725 |
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| [22:22:44] | wagnerrp: | what branch? |
| [22:22:52] | iridium: | trunk |
| [22:25:12] | justinh: | Dibblah: you mean there are too many people using scripts to tweet useless stuff in *public* and using *MythTV* in the string. Like DUH you dunno what's recording your shows |
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| [22:26:32] | Dibblah: | No, I mean that linking the events stuff in would just create the opportunity for a whole world of stupidity. |
| [22:27:00] | Dibblah: | It's not about knowing it yourself – It's about telling others! |
| [22:27:15] | Dibblah: | Every single detail of your tweetcasted life. <sigh> |
| [22:27:31] | justinh: | the novelty wears off in normal people :) |
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| [22:27:58] | justinh: | @justinh Breathing in |
| [22:28:07] | justinh: | @justinh Breathing out |
| [22:28:57] | mrplow: | RDV_Linux – hey checking out the mythnetvision ustream script I'm working on |
| [22:29:45] | RDV_Linux: | mrplow: Where do I check? |
| [22:30:12] | justinh: | Dibblah: but people who tweet about what their frontend watches.. MEH |
| [22:30:15] | mrplow: | well it doesn't look like anything yet |
| [22:30:20] | mrplow: | but you said the ustream api is a typical |
| [22:30:42] | mrplow: | there are four main outputs you can get from them, json, php, html and xml |
| [22:31:04] | mrplow: | I was just wondering if it would be easier to use the html, or json rather than xml |
| [22:31:27] | mrplow: | this is the link I sent you in the email |
| [22:31:28] | mrplow: | http://api.ustream.tv/xml/channel/all/search/ . . . D51239351232 |
| [22:31:46] | RDV_Linux: | mrplow: Correct as the url data to the video is hidden in a embed tage rather than a regular URL. In general I have found XML easiest to parse. More tools be language. |
| [22:31:55] | mrplow: | you can change xml in the url to json, html or php |
| [22:32:50] | RDV_Linux: | s/tage/tag/ |
| [22:33:01] | mrplow: | oh ok, yes no matter which output you get its always an embed tag, darn |
| [22:33:39] | wagnerrp: | RDV_Linux: per my previous question... everything was working fine, there was just a mismatch between the listings data and ttvdb |
| [22:34:12] | wagnerrp: | 'Chuck Versus the Angel of Death' and 'Chuck Versus the Angel de la Muerte' |
| [22:34:21] | RDV_Linux: | mrplow: That may take the most time for you to figure out how form a regular URL. I tried a few things this morning but did not hit on the combo. |
| [22:35:14] | Beirdo2: | Json ftw :) |
| [22:35:21] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: Was that with an episode or a series name? I assume episode name. Not much you can do about episode name mismatches. |
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| [22:36:06] | wagnerrp: | RDV_Linux: an episode of Chuck |
| [22:36:08] | RDV_Linux: | Beirdo: I found that the parsing libraries in python to be less matchure than the xml ones. |
| [22:36:13] | Beirdo2: | <3 Seattle |
| [22:36:26] | Beirdo2: | Python? Cough. |
| [22:36:30] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: aah |
| [22:37:01] | Beirdo2: | If I can parse it easily in c it must be easy in python already |
| [22:37:19] | RDV_Linux: | Beirdo: When it comes to MNV grabbers the final output is all that counts. Pick your own language preferences. |
| [22:37:35] | Beirdo2: | But of course :) |
| [22:38:07] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo: it depends on what you consider 'easy' |
| [22:38:08] | Beirdo2: | Json is generally easier to deal with than XML though |
| [22:38:12] | RDV_Linux: | Beirdo: I am not even using python any more I am using a XML based mashup scripts in a format called EMML. |
| [22:38:26] | wagnerrp: | im not too fond of DOM in any language |
| [22:39:34] | mrplow: | arg well I don't have the patience to try to get anything working, I gotta rest my swollen head |
| [22:39:39] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: When I wrote the first MNV grabbers I used json as the input data but latter moved to XML. |
| [22:40:24] | Beirdo2: | Json also takes less network bandwidth typically |
| [22:40:37] | Beirdo2: | But whatever works I guess |
| [22:41:10] | wagnerrp: | Beirdo2: looks like it takes a lot more whitespace |
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| [22:41:53] | Beirdo2: | Not needed |
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| [22:42:25] | Beirdo2: | You can put json all on one line last I looked |
| [22:43:16] | Beirdo2: | People often format with indentation though but I don't believe it is necessary. |
| [22:44:24] | Beirdo2: | Even with it json is more compact than XML as XML needs end tags |
| [22:45:08] | Beirdo2: | But whatever works anyways |
| [22:45:45] | jduggan: | ITV has confirmed that its new ITV1 HD channel will launch on Virgin Media, Sky and Freesat next month. |
| [22:45:48] | jduggan: | nice |
| [22:45:50] | jduggan: | no more stupid hackery |
| [22:45:53] | jduggan: | for itv hd |
| [22:45:56] | jduggan: | \o/ |
| [22:46:02] | Beirdo2: | Yay |
| [22:46:23] | iridium: | hm |
| [22:46:24] | Beirdo2: | Not that it helps me but yay nonetheless |
| [22:46:36] | iridium: | HDTV also works with scan-s2, szap-2 and mplayer |
| [22:47:27] | iridium: | it's definitely not a hardware problem |
| [22:47:34] | iridium: | and permissions are also set correctly |
| [22:48:03] | iridium: | so either i misconfigured something or mythtv is not compatible with this TV card / linuxtv api revision |
| [22:48:12] | iridium: | or has a bug ^^ |
| [22:48:29] | Beirdo2: | Most likely the first |
| [22:48:50] | Beirdo2: | Anyways I'm off to go walking about again |
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| [22:49:03] | wagnerrp: | why is my laptop fan running... |
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| [22:55:21] | iridium: | ok, so is there anyone who can tell me _what_ i misconfigured so that i can fix it? ;) |
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| [23:05:32] | Wicked: | hmm. looking at the roadmap for mythtv...its saying 0.23 is 12 days late? was it supposed to be released on the 1st? is it close to release? it seems like 0.22 just came out |
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| [23:07:07] | iridium: | <-- going offline for now |
| [23:09:03] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: whitespace in JSON is completely optional |
| [23:12:58] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: yeah, was just looking at the top example on the json.org page |
| [23:13:09] | wagnerrp: | the rest of the examples followed with Beirdo's claim much better |
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| [23:18:50] | justinh: | dracosilv: you'll never see a bittorrent client for mythtv.. not an officially supported one. blah blah see the channel faq etc yada yada |
| [23:18:50] | iamlindoro: | dracosilv, no, it is not supported, yes, it is a banned topic |
| [23:18:54] | sphery: | dracosilv: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IRC#Bittorrent , and no MythTV has no support for it |
| [23:19:45] | justinh: | why anybody would wanna is beyond my comprehension. it's hardly what remotes were made for driving |
| [23:19:49] | AndyCap: | wth? are you guys psychic or something? |
| [23:20:01] | justinh: | AndyCap: psychotic. not the same |
| [23:20:01] | sphery: | AndyCap: you can't tell from his nick? |
| [23:20:15] | sphery: | (just joking--the original question was in #mythtv ) |
| [23:20:37] | kormoc: | and here I was working on a way to spin it into a psychic detective agency |
| [23:20:37] | AndyCap: | aaaah... |
| [23:20:47] | justinh: | hmmm seems like a handheld mini 'hd' camera isn't for me. they all seem to have stupid wobbly motion artifacts |
| [23:21:23] | AndyCap: | justinh: build or buy a steadycam ummm. pendulum |
| [23:21:34] | justinh: | AndyCap: no, actual wavy video |
| [23:21:41] | AndyCap: | ooh. |
| [23:21:47] | justinh: | so wibbly wobbly, not shaky |
| [23:22:01] | dracosilv: | justinh, the only reason i would want a bittorrent type client on my set-top box would be that i could use it to download music files (and movie files) to be watched on my tv. (e.g photos/music/video/etc.. |
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| [23:22:13] | dracosilv: | justinh, and timey-wimey (dr who joke) |
| [23:22:19] | justinh: | dracosilv: muh, banned topic |
| [23:22:25] | iamlindoro: | dracosilv, and that's precisely why it's banned here |
| [23:22:28] | dracosilv: | np. |
| [23:22:30] | sphery: | dracosilv: that would be the legally-not-dubious side of bittorrent |
| [23:22:33] | iamlindoro: | so we'll just call that your one warning ;) |
| [23:22:44] | justinh: | cough other clients are available. cough |
| [23:22:57] | ** iamlindoro glares at justdave ** | |
| [23:23:00] | kormoc: | but none of which will be talked about in here |
| [23:23:02] | iamlindoro: | and justinh |
| [23:23:11] | kormoc: | poor justdave, always getting in trouble cause of justinh |
| [23:23:12] | sphery: | poor dave is thinking, what? |
| [23:23:22] | ** iamlindoro hates wink wink nudge nudge even more than talking about banned topics ** | |
| [23:23:31] | dracosilv: | are there plugins for other types of video? (youtube, etc?) |
| [23:23:40] | dracosilv: | and is there plugins for video/pure music? |
| [23:23:41] | ** kormoc nudge nudge wink winks out of the room ** | |
| [23:23:51] | justinh: | whut is pure music? |
| [23:23:59] | dracosilv: | audio cds. |
| [23:24:00] | kormoc: | justinh: single notes |
| [23:24:14] | kormoc: | I love that b minor, listen to it all day long |
| [23:24:16] | justinh: | does anybody ever read the fricking website anymore? |
| [23:24:20] | iamlindoro: | Someone should write something like that, they could call it MythMusic |
| [23:24:28] | sphery: | dracosilv: MythNetVision provides support for video from those sites where the video can be accessed in some way that's not in violation of the site's Terms of Service or of copyright violations |
| [23:24:31] | AndyCap: | iamlindoro: that would never take off |
| [23:24:37] | iamlindoro: | and one that organizes video too... we could call it... MythShows... NO WAIT... MythVideo! |
| [23:24:41] | dracosilv: | well that's cool.. |
| [23:24:43] | justinh: | iamlindoro: somebody should definitely write something like Net Myth Video |
| [23:25:01] | iamlindoro: | justinh, Meh, only a glutton for punishment would take on a project like that |
| [23:25:07] | justinh: | once again IRC is seen as a substitute for reading the blimmin docs |
| [23:25:09] | justinh: | grrrr |
| [23:25:20] | kormoc: | I like MythTalkingMotionPicturesInTechnicolor personally... |
| [23:25:25] | dracosilv: | i guess a video/music/photo settop box would be the ideal thing for me. |
| [23:25:29] | justinh: | I should kill more. definitely would help the angst |
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| [23:25:49] | iamlindoro: | maybe someday MythTV will be expanded to handle videos, music, and photos |
| [23:25:52] | iamlindoro: | alas |
| [23:26:23] | justinh: | they'd have to call it MythTV, incorporating videos, music and photos – which as project names go is a bit long |
| [23:26:28] | ** sphery wonders just how far society would have progressed if all those hours people wasted watching YouTube were used productively, instead ** | |
| [23:26:57] | ** dracosilv just looked at the unofficial plugins... ** | |
| [23:27:02] | justinh: | but since they're there maybe "MythTV, incorporating videos, music, photos AND web" would be better |
| [23:27:05] | dracosilv: | MythStream < streaming audio player) |
| [23:27:12] | iamlindoro: | maybe you should look at the official ones instead... |
| [23:27:13] | dracosilv: | awesome. |
| [23:27:19] | dracosilv: | slayradio FTW! |
| [23:27:21] | justinh: | word to the wise. 99% of the 'unofficial plugins' aren't even bloody plugins |
| [23:27:21] | kormoc: | justinh: killall -1? ;) |
| [23:27:38] | iamlindoro: | and those which are are 100% incompatible with current versions of myth |
| [23:28:04] | sphery: | justinh: you mean that script I heard about that illegally scrapes Apple's movie trailer website and then adds infinite menu entries to Myth's main menu isn't a plugin? |
| [23:28:20] | sphery: | wonder what your definition of plugin is? ;) |
| [23:28:21] | justinh: | heheh |
| [23:28:24] | iamlindoro: | again, strongly suggest looking at the *official* plugins, since you seen not to have looked into what MythTV does yet... |
| [23:28:25] | kormoc: | a plugin to your mom! |
| [23:28:37] | iamlindoro: | and most of what you are looking for has been done in myth for ages... |
| [23:28:42] | sphery: | dracosilv: follow iamlindoro's advice--or just re-read what I told you earlier |
| [23:28:44] | justinh: | well if it writes a menu xml, it's just a fugly hack :) |
| [23:28:45] | dracosilv: | iamlindoro, sure... no problem. |
| [23:28:54] | sphery: | justinh: agreed :) |
| [23:29:43] | dracosilv: | i assume that the file format that mythtv saves its videos and such is detailed on the wiki as well.. right? |
| [23:29:52] | dashcloud: | hi, I'm planning to get a Neuros link box+ an Nvidia GeForce 9400gt (to provide output to my SD tv) as my SD frontend setup- anything I'm missing (a cheaper or simpler way possibly?) |
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| [23:30:01] | iamlindoro: | wiki, documentation, etc. |
| [23:30:05] | kormoc: | dracosilv: that more depends on your capture device |
| [23:30:36] | justinh: | heh. neuros. pfft |
| [23:30:41] | justinh: | grand ideas |
| [23:30:59] | justinh: | AndyCap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRMqeFtVJRE |
| [23:31:07] | sphery: | is that another "the CPU is highly overrated since no one does any actual computing with their computers" box? |
| [23:31:13] | sphery: | like the atom-based ones? |
| [23:31:23] | iamlindoro: | Maybe I'll put a video on MythTV watching youtube on youtube... on youtube on youtube |
| [23:31:34] | dracosilv: | from the wiki: "however Myth will work perfectly well without any capture cards installed" <big plus for me if i'm (at first) gonna use the thing as a jukebox type machine... |
| [23:32:16] | AndyCap: | justinh: yeah, that looks really broken. |
| [23:32:20] | ** sphery has a feeling that use of mythfrontend without a backend is no longer bearable ** | |
| [23:32:35] | sphery: | and since you can't have a backend without a capture card... |
| [23:32:50] | sphery: | well, can't have a properly-configured/working one, that is |
| [23:32:54] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: E_RECURSSION has thrown a uncaught E_RECURSSION |
| [23:33:05] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, heh |
| [23:33:22] | dashcloud: | nope- http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Ne . . . ecifications (AMD Phenom chipset) |
| [23:34:12] | sphery: | Wow, a device with a useful CPU. |
| [23:34:13] | AndyCap: | justinh: oh, look even with steadicam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHHllEFuWoA |
| [23:34:14] | sphery: | don't see that often |
| [23:34:29] | dracosilv: | well a player box would be acceptable for right now... |
| [23:34:33] | iamlindoro: | sphery, because it's what most of us would call... a computer :) |
| [23:34:38] | justinh: | AndyCap: saw that |
| [23:34:43] | iamlindoro: | desktop computer, that is |
| [23:34:53] | sphery: | ah, I see |
| [23:35:09] | dracosilv: | i've got a machine with 2x 500gb drives (so that'll hold a lot of music and (hopefully okay) legally-ripped dvds) |
| [23:35:16] | sphery: | I heard that the desktop computer will be obsolete in 3 yrs |
| [23:35:16] | ** kormoc eyes his core2duo that is only limited by io ** | |
| [23:35:24] | sphery: | and we'll all be using devices with Android on them |
| [23:35:30] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [23:35:31] | justinh: | heh those guys must be idiots. this looks ok: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ07ipEWeGE&feature=related |
| [23:36:07] | sphery: | http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20100303/tc_p . . . inthreeyears |
| [23:36:47] | justinh: | hahaha a guy at work was crowing about some concept computer he'd been shown somewhere.. it rolls up. yup |
| [23:37:12] | dashcloud: | I'm kinda excited for Freescale's $200 android tablet- http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/09/freescales . . . -linux-cost/ |
| [23:37:19] | sphery: | hey, like those roll-up keyboards and roll-up displays |
| [23:37:22] | justinh: | ah wth I'll buy the sports version of the zi8 when it's out on April 1st. Then it's cack I'll just return it |
| [23:37:39] | sphery: | put them on the back of my roll-top desk and we're in business |
| [23:38:06] | AndyCap: | justinh: not too shabby. |
| [23:39:33] | justinh: | btw another subtle thing – mythtv is a DVR not 'media center'. if all you wanna do is play media I'd go somewhere else |
| [23:39:39] | dashcloud: | justinh: people really launch products on april 1st? |
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| [23:40:04] | justinh: | kodak apparently do |
| [23:40:06] | sphery: | I agree completely with justinh. If you're not recording TV, MythTV isn't the right project |
| [23:40:37] | sphery: | I've heard good things about XBMC as far as the media center things goes |
| [23:40:42] | sphery: | (though I've never tried it) |
| [23:40:50] | justinh: | I wish I'd never hit on the idea of hiding shows on hidden channels from the program finder & searches now |
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| [23:41:21] | dracosilv: | okay.. is there a way to directly control a directv box from a mythtv box? |
| [23:41:24] | justinh: | another thing I just assumed might've been tackled already lol |
| [23:41:33] | dracosilv: | e.g. a bit of hardware (aside from a ir xmitter |
| [23:42:03] | justinh: | what are we.. some kind of human interface to the wiki? |
| [23:42:37] | kormoc: | dracosilv: firewire if you're lucky |
| [23:43:44] | sphery: | on new directv, I've heard USB |
| [23:43:49] | sphery: | with a null-modem cable |
| [23:44:17] | dracosilv: | justinh ... i guess i like asking the actual group (since they more than likely have the most up to date info/ideas that might not be on the wiki/website) |
| [23:44:25] | sphery: | new = new STB's/receivers |
| [23:45:17] | dashcloud: | when I had directv about a year, year and a half, I used the USB setup on my D11–200 box (the base SD receiver) |
| [23:47:42] | sphery: | I always wonder why people are so worried about IR transmitters. Are they really less-reliable than firewire or USB or whatever? |
| [23:48:09] | kormoc: | sphery: nopers |
| [23:48:20] | sphery: | Mine was perfectly reliable |
| [23:48:32] | sphery: | never missed a channel change due to the IR transmitter |
| [23:48:33] | dracosilv: | mine's a d12–100 |
| [23:48:47] | sphery: | only due to other issues (like STB being powered off) |
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| [23:49:51] | justinh: | maybe channel change times ;-) those livetv lubbers |
| [23:50:50] | ** dracosilv thinks it would be easier to just hook up one (already owned) cable instead of having to build/buy one... ** | |
| [23:51:40] | dracosilv: | (a maybe custom one) |
| [23:54:30] | kormoc: | why would you need a custom ir blaster cable? it's a ir diode on a pair of wires.... |
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| [23:55:42] | iamlindoro: | one which you can buy pre-made for serial or USB |
| [23:56:01] | iamlindoro: | it's well-worn ground-- there is nothing you need to do for IR channel changing that hasn't been done by countless people before you |
| [23:56:10] | iamlindoro: | least of all assemble anything |
| [23:59:22] | iamlindoro: | (and DirecTV boxes are controllable via USB, btw) |
| [23:59:31] | dracosilv: | i'm saying that if could use a usb a-a cable or something that i already have laying around, instead of having to build a cable... i'd go with the already-owned cable. |
| [23:59:52] | iamlindoro: | there's no such thing as a USB a-a cable |
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