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| [01:52:22] | dcr226: | hi all, can anyone point me in the right direction for running myth on the X server without starting the DE? |
| [01:52:52] | wagnerrp: | DE? |
| [01:53:15] | keith4_: | desktop environment? |
| [01:53:29] | wagnerrp: | just dont start your desktop environment |
| [01:53:32] | dcr226: | yes, sorry |
| [01:53:47] | wagnerrp: | set it to start up something simple like fluxbox, ratpoison, or evilwm |
| [01:54:01] | dcr226: | wagnerrp: ah, ok that makes sense |
| [01:54:19] | wagnerrp: | is this a machine you otherwise use for desktop purposes> |
| [01:54:21] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [01:54:42] | dcr226: | no |
| [01:54:52] | dcr226: | its more or less gonna be an appliance |
| [01:54:53] | wagnerrp: | if its a dedicated mythtv box, there are instructions on the wiki for completely disabling xdm/gdm/kdm |
| [01:55:06] | wagnerrp: | and using the standard terminal configuration to auto-login and launch mythtv |
| [01:55:18] | dcr226: | oh nice, any idea of a link at all? |
| [01:55:33] | dcr226: | thats just what I need |
| [01:55:33] | wagnerrp: | its on the wiki, i dont know off hand |
| [01:55:40] | dcr226: | np, I'll take a look |
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| [03:16:12] | tzanger: | good evening |
| [03:16:26] | tzanger: | I have two backends that usually get along very very well (one has the media, one has the ATSC tuners) |
| [03:16:44] | tzanger: | every now and again the master backend (the one with the media) will simply not see the other one |
| [03:16:53] | tzanger: | encoder status shows that the encoders are remote and currently not connected |
| [03:16:59] | tzanger: | I stop/restart the backends, nothing changs |
| [03:17:18] | tzanger: | on the slave backend I can force a resched and see the remote contact mysql on the master |
| [03:17:35] | tzanger: | they can both see the schedules, but nothing gets recorded because the master claims the slave is not connected |
| [03:17:47] | tzanger: | what can I do to try to resolve this? |
| [03:18:10] | tank-man: | do the log files reveal any useful information? |
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| [03:18:55] | tzanger: | the log files don't seem to say too much, I have the master runnign with -v important,record |
| [03:21:34] | tzanger: | hmm I notice on the slave here "empty localhostname" |
| [03:21:38] | tzanger: | that doesn't look so good |
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| [03:26:09] | tzanger: | 2010-02–16 22:25:47.240 Empty LocalHostName. |
| [03:26:10] | tzanger: | 2010-02–16 22:25:47.240 Using localhost value of office |
| [03:26:23] | tzanger: | where do I find 'LocalHostName' ? there is no setting in teh database with that name |
| [03:26:38] | wagnerrp: | that is your local hostname |
| [03:26:50] | wagnerrp: | that is the value it finds locally, to figure out what settings belong to it in the database |
| [03:26:57] | wagnerrp: | run 'hostname' |
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| [03:29:58] | tzanger: | that's correct |
| [03:29:59] | tzanger: | it's not empty |
| [03:30:01] | tzanger: | $ hostname |
| [03:30:01] | tzanger: | office |
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| [03:34:36] | wagnerrp: | LocalHostName is empty, so there is no value to be used to override that name in the database |
| [03:34:47] | wagnerrp: | so its just using the default, which is the hostname |
| [03:40:47] | tzanger: | oh, so that's not actually something to worry about then |
| [03:43:01] | tzanger: | the slave connects to the db and it seems to find everything it needs |
| [03:44:19] | tzanger: | should I be seeing something about the master and slave communicating (not sql) with -v all on the slave? |
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| [03:59:44] | bcgrown: | is there a way to display the bitrate of the mpeg stream from my firewire cable tuner? |
| [04:01:04] | tzanger: | wow I dunno, I reboot the slave and things work again |
| [04:01:10] | tzanger: | I hate that as a "solution" |
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| [06:14:53] | Hilikus: | hey guys |
| [06:15:50] | Hilikus: | if i have a recording that takes 2GB and i have a frontend accessing the backend through the internet, will the transfer of watching the show be the full 2GB or there is some compression/resampling?? |
| [06:16:11] | wagnerrp: | no compression, no transcoding |
| [06:16:34] | wagnerrp: | if you want to use mythtv across the internet, you need an upstream bandwidth of at least that of the recording |
| [06:16:37] | Hilikus: | do people use frontends through the internet? |
| [06:16:42] | Hilikus: | mmm ok |
| [06:16:48] | wagnerrp: | no, for the above reason |
| [06:17:17] | wagnerrp: | there IS some 3rd party project that adds a built in transcoder, as well as encryption, for the purpose of accessing mythtv across the internet |
| [06:17:29] | wagnerrp: | however i dont know if it is still maintained |
| [06:18:06] | wagnerrp: | you also need sql access, which is not advised |
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| [06:18:23] | Hilikus: | mmm true |
| [06:19:36] | Hilikus: | where is the address of the backend stored in the frontend?? my FE can access mysql but then it complains it can't find the backend at 127.0.0.1 |
| [06:19:47] | Hilikus: | is that address stored in the db and queried? |
| [06:19:53] | wagnerrp: | the address is stored in the database and queried |
| [06:20:07] | wagnerrp: | the MasterServerIP and BackendServerIP values |
| [06:20:14] | Hilikus: | ok, perfect |
| [06:20:20] | Hilikus: | thanks a bunch wagnerrp |
| [06:20:20] | wagnerrp: | two things you set on the first page in the first group of mythtv-setup |
| [06:20:29] | wagnerrp: | change then in mythtv-setup, and restart your backend |
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| [06:21:04] | Hilikus: | will do |
| [06:21:05] | Hilikus: | thanks |
| [06:21:07] | Hilikus: | gnight |
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| [11:20:45] | noaXess_kubuntu: | hi all |
| [11:21:41] | noaXess_kubuntu: | have rescaned my channels, xml data works.. but on one channel i can't record if i create a record plan for a future show.. |
| [11:22:47] | noaXess_kubuntu: | while the show is recording it will be listed as green entry in recorded shows, but if i want show that show, the file can't be found |
| [11:23:13] | frojnd: | Hello there. |
| [11:23:44] | frojnd: | Now... I don't wanna be a bitch, but what's the way to test if tv card (analog) is even working under linux? |
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| [11:24:22] | frojnd: | I'm rading mythtv documentation but haven't found any info regarding this |
| [11:24:39] | noaXess_kubuntu: | if i try watching that channel live it works.. but the first time it get "on known multiplex...", the second time i watch this channel, i get the normal channel info's.. signal and so on |
| [11:25:25] | noaXess_kubuntu: | frojnd: first check the wiki about compatiböe cards.. wait a second |
| [11:26:22] | noaXess_kubuntu: | frojnd: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tuner_Card#Cards_tested_with_MythTV |
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| [11:29:19] | oobe: | frojnd, install tv time and scan for channels |
| [11:29:21] | frojnd: | I have bt878 02:07.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) but don't know what brooktree is about |
| [11:29:40] | oobe: | oh those are crap but will still work |
| [11:29:59] | frojnd: | oobe: what modeule is used in kernel for tvlinux? |
| [11:30:04] | frojnd: | oobe: crap* |
| [11:30:05] | frojnd: | ? |
| [11:30:07] | frojnd: | ah shit |
| [11:30:14] | oobe: | none its a program |
| [11:30:21] | oobe: | your tv card uses a module |
| [11:30:29] | frojnd: | oobe: yeah and I have to modrpobe it.. |
| [11:30:31] | oobe: | i cant remember the name though |
| [11:30:41] | frojnd: | oobe: no modules are loaded by default in arch |
| [11:31:08] | oobe: | tvtime is a very basic app for tuning analogue signals |
| [11:31:17] | frojnd: | oobe: tvtime it is |
| [11:31:42] | oobe: | its handy i use it when i am capturing vhs to get the right channel set |
| [11:32:00] | frojnd: | oobe: so you also have analog antena |
| [11:32:16] | oobe: | yea i guess |
| [11:32:59] | oobe: | i dont see the distinction as yet cause me personally i can recieve analogue and digital through my antenna |
| [11:33:18] | oobe: | i relise there are digital antennas but i dont know anything about them |
| [11:34:40] | frojnd: | so tvtime is used in your case only to search for chans and for the rest of the work you use mythtv? |
| [11:35:09] | oobe: | well in my case i dont use analogue |
| [11:35:48] | oobe: | but if i were and i also had a bt878 i would go to mythtv-setup and configure it then scan for channels |
| [11:36:11] | frojnd: | oobe: scan with? |
| [11:36:19] | oobe: | but if you just want to test its working use tvtime its a quick and easy way |
| [11:36:25] | frojnd: | It's scanning with tvtime and it finds nothing wow |
| [11:37:02] | oobe: | mythtv-setup 2. capture card ( select your device ) 3. add video sources 4. scan for channels |
| [11:37:37] | oobe: | frojnd, thats a faster way to find out its not getting a signal |
| [11:37:52] | oobe: | see if you did it in mythtv-setup you would be wondering if there was a human error |
| [11:37:58] | oobe: | since its new to you |
| [11:38:15] | frojnd: | I followed this guide: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MythTV_HOWTO |
| [11:38:26] | frojnd: | but I don't understand a few things within settings |
| [11:38:32] | oobe: | so im thinking you may need a better aerial or need to change some settings in tvtime |
| [11:38:38] | frojnd: | oobe: yeah |
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| [11:39:18] | frojnd: | I don't even know if video source is Televison or S-video or composite 1 :D |
| [11:39:29] | noaXess_kubuntu: | thats the log of backend if i want record a show on that channel.. and then want watch it while or after recording http://paste.ubuntu.com/378284/ |
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| [11:41:13] | noaXess_kubuntu: | and thats the log of frontend if i want whatch the recorded show.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/378286/ |
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| [11:42:48] | noaXess_kubuntu: | any idea why i cant record on that channel, but can watch livetv? |
| [11:43:27] | frojnd: | oobe: how can I rescan with tvtime? |
| [11:45:15] | oobe: | there is a menu |
| [11:45:35] | frojnd: | huh, I already found tvtime-scanner --input=0 but |
| [11:45:39] | frojnd: | - No signal |
| [11:45:42] | frojnd: | that's weird |
| [11:45:53] | frojnd: | maybe I really need to load that module I don't know how it's called for tv cards |
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| [11:52:14] | oobe: | frojnd, yes you should load the module for your tv tuner i already assumed you did |
| [11:52:30] | oobe: | if you are refering to a module for tvtime then there is none |
| [11:52:39] | oobe: | modules are for hardware support |
| [11:59:00] | frojnd: | oobe: I know that |
| [11:59:22] | frojnd: | oobe: I'm refering to what module do I have to have loaded for bt878 if it's not already |
| [11:59:32] | oobe: | im not sure |
| [11:59:53] | oobe: | its bttv |
| [12:00:26] | oobe: | http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/BTTV.html#ss4.5 |
| [12:00:35] | oobe: | google told me in 2.5 secs |
| [12:00:43] | frojnd: | http://dpaste.com/160414/ |
| [12:00:48] | frojnd: | I have a few modeuls there |
| [12:04:09] | oobe: | looks ok to me |
| [12:06:54] | oobe: | noaXess_kubuntu, are you using multiple storage groups |
| [12:07:00] | oobe: | it looks like it cant find the file |
| [12:08:21] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: think no, one for recording, one for livetv |
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| [12:08:48] | oobe: | and you say livetv works ok |
| [12:08:50] | jst_: | I know this isn't the channel, but |
| [12:09:00] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: yes |
| [12:09:16] | jst_: | I'll ask away... my 802.11n card can use 5 GHz, but my router can't... would it make sense to upgrade my router? |
| [12:10:12] | noaXess_kubuntu: | jst_: realy wrong channel |
| [12:10:28] | oobe: | well for some reason as soon as you try to record somthing on the channel it cant find the file |
| [12:10:59] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: but now all new records can be watched.. |
| [12:11:02] | oobe: | maybe its somthing to do with the recordings path or access i dont see how though if other channels work |
| [12:11:06] | noaXess_kubuntu: | cant |
| [12:11:19] | oobe: | ls -lt /path/to/recordings |
| [12:11:35] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: there are a lot of.. |
| [12:11:55] | oobe: | paste a small sample |
| [12:12:06] | oobe: | in pastebin i mean |
| [12:12:48] | jst_: | noaXess_kubuntu, yeah, I realize 5 GHz is ideal... but the Trendnet TEW-639GR is incapable of utilizing it. I'm still getting speeds of 6–7 MB/s which is decent, I suppose. |
| [12:14:20] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378299/ |
| [12:14:37] | joakim_: | noaXess_kubuntu, I have not read the whole thred but I had similar recording and viewing problems but it turned out to be that I forgotten to set the correct permit on the recordning folder and the liveTV folder |
| [12:14:42] | noaXess_kubuntu: | the strange thing is, that all other channels work ?? |
| [12:15:33] | noaXess_kubuntu: | joakim_: ok.. will check |
| [12:15:36] | frojnd: | oobe: I've checked for signals now tih S-video and television with a command: tvtime-scanner --output=0 but in both cases there was No signal |
| [12:16:39] | noaXess_kubuntu: | joakim_: what perms are correct? |
| [12:16:46] | oobe: | noaXess_kubuntu, try doing a chown -R mythtv:mythtv /path/to/recordings folder |
| [12:16:58] | oobe: | then scheduling a recording |
| [12:17:56] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: ok |
| [12:19:55] | oobe: | frojnd, i have never used tvtime-scanner |
| [12:19:59] | joakim_: | noaXess_kubuntu, well the user thats running the frontend shold be able to write to the folder(s) or if you dont mind making it writable for all just typ in a terminal |
| [12:20:02] | joakim_: | sudo chmod -R 777 /var/lib/mytht/* |
| [12:20:26] | joakim_: | to make all the mythtv folders writable for any body |
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| [12:21:09] | frojnd: | oobe: it's just more "detailed" ...does Channel management – Frequency table mean anything? I have analog tv card with outdor antena and not satellite and here is set to Cable. I can choose between Broaqdcas and Cable with Channels 100' |
| [12:21:13] | oobe: | frojnd, just start tvtime and scroll thru the menu with ur mouse set the input connect and such then scan for channels |
| [12:21:19] | frojnd: | or is this just cable that goes inato my card |
| [12:21:55] | joakim_: | noaXess_kubuntu, not sure you use the default folders to stor the recordings you might have to change the /var/lib/mythtv/ to what ever folder you use |
| [12:22:17] | oobe: | i dont know where you live and what you are trying to recieve |
| [12:22:23] | noaXess_kubuntu: | joakim_: ok |
| [12:22:39] | joakim_: | noaXess_kubuntu, :-) |
| [12:22:41] | frojnd: | oobe: 5 programs that I do with a TV :D |
| [12:22:59] | oobe: | yea but are they free to air |
| [12:23:09] | frojnd: | oobe: yeah |
| [12:23:16] | oobe: | then dont select cable |
| [12:24:59] | frojnd: | I mean we have to pay it... every citizen.. |
| [12:25:05] | frojnd: | by default if wanna or not... |
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| [12:26:39] | noaXess_kubuntu: | joakim_, oobe: no chnge, same problem |
| [12:27:20] | noaXess_kubuntu: | still can watch livetv on that channel |
| [12:27:38] | oobe: | is this a recent problem on an existing install or is this a fresh install |
| [12:27:52] | frojnd: | oobe: also I've noticed taht I have Channel management menu only if in input configuration under Change video source: is set to television |
| [12:28:43] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: on a existing install.. |
| [12:28:58] | noaXess_kubuntu: | here is what mythtv-status say: http://paste.ubuntu.com/378306/ |
| [12:29:57] | joakim_: | noaXess_kubuntu, hmmm.... are you using the default recording folder? |
| [12:30:00] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: this problem i have after rescanning all channels.. |
| [12:30:31] | noaXess_kubuntu: | joakim_: /home/thomi/mythtv/Default and it works for all other channels |
| [12:31:01] | joakim_: | noaXess_kubuntu, so its only one reciver that dont record properly ? |
| [12:31:35] | noaXess_kubuntu: | joak leme test |
| [12:31:43] | oobe: | noaXess_kubuntu, try going to mythweb http://localhost/mythweb/settings/database and press the repair and optimise buttons |
| [12:33:34] | noaXess_kubuntu: | now all three dvb-c cards are recording and i can watch each show |
| [12:34:29] | joakim_: | noaXess_kubuntu, great :-) |
| [12:34:34] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: should is stop recordings? |
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| [12:38:21] | oobe: | noaXess_kubuntu, no |
| [12:38:38] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: done.. test again |
| [12:38:54] | oobe: | noaXess_kubuntu, so you can watch recordings now |
| [12:39:10] | oobe: | already but that one channel still causes problems? |
| [12:40:39] | vanksi: | 2 questions: does the normal recording settings just dump the raw stream to a mpeg container (no loss what so ever)? does anyone know a good tutorial to automatically transcode dvb recordings to xvids? i would like to retain the AR and use target sizes by lenght of the recording and cut commercials out |
| [12:41:43] | noaXess_kubuntu: | oobe: always same problem, can record on that channel but livetv works.. on other channels i can record, whatch and livetv |
| [12:41:45] | oobe: | vanksi, yes it does dump to to raw stream |
| [12:42:14] | noaXess_kubuntu: | sorry cant record i mean |
| [12:42:30] | oobe: | there is a program called nuvexport for transcoding recordings to avid with avi containers or nuv or mp4 |
| [12:42:33] | vanksi: | and another question, is it possible to cut the "main" program automatically from a recording that contains end of another program and commercials and the "main" program, ie. (end of another prog)-(commercials)-(Main prog, part1)-(commercials)-(main prog, part 2)? |
| [12:42:47] | vanksi: | oobe, thanks, ill look into that |
| [12:43:14] | oobe: | but mythtv can nativly auto transcodes to xvid like video with nuv container |
| [12:43:51] | oobe: | yes its also possible to edit out all the commercials then re transcode |
| [12:44:21] | oobe: | fyi nuvexport can use transcode and mencoder which are popular apps for ripping |
| [12:50:03] | oobe: | vanksi, you can also do lossless transcoding with your mpeg2 streams to cut out ads but maintain quality |
| [12:50:32] | oobe: | then rip using nuvexport to make a perfect little xvid divx or h.264 rip |
| [12:51:17] | oobe: | noaXess_kubuntu, i would try rescanning later on since that was the source of your problem |
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| [12:52:32] | joakim_: | vanksi, I used this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=346778 |
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| [12:54:43] | noaXess_kubuntu: | ok.. will come back later.. test some things |
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| [12:55:31] | joakim_: | noaXess_kubuntu, not sure what kind of reciver card you have but I have a Novo t-500 and some time that card needs a cold boot in order to work. and when it does I turn of the machine and unplug the power cord leave it for about 5 min and the reconnect the power cord and boot it up again |
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| [14:14:36] | joakim_: | see you all later, bfn |
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| [14:20:48] | jst_: | Where can I find support for the Windows port of MythTV? |
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| [14:23:41] | oobe: | afaik there is no official support |
| [14:23:47] | oobe: | there is some docs |
| [14:24:05] | oobe: | but due to windows being crap its highly discouraged |
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| [14:26:08] | jst_: | Ahh, I managed to get DirectX support working somehow. Took some tomfoolery, but it works, so nevermind. :) |
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| [14:56:55] | jst_: | Anyone heard anything about the status for NTSC support for the Hauppauge 1800 (cx23885, I believe)? |
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| [15:10:48] | vanksi: | hmm, my commercial flaggind doesn't seem to work at all |
| [15:11:03] | vanksi: | using 0.22 on ubuntu |
| [15:12:23] | vanksi: | mythcommflag --getskiplist returns QSqlDatabasePrivate::removeDatabase: connection 'DBManager0' is still in use, all queries will cease to work. |
| [15:17:34] | oobe: | jst_, i didnt know you used windows for myth i remember having a convo with you about wireless and that would of made a difference if i knew |
| [15:21:47] | jst_: | oobe, I use a Linux backend, and two frontends--one Linux and one Windows. |
| [15:30:23] | oobe: | oh ok did you get ur wireless fixed |
| [15:30:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | jst_: http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?p=551 might be a good start ... that page is a little old, but you may find more info on that site. |
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| [15:31:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | jst_: and: http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?cat=9 |
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| [15:35:55] | jst_: | J-e-f-f-A, thanks. |
| [15:36:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | jst_: Also, one of the developers hangs out here from time-to-time, so perhaps he'll chime in with more comments if he drops by. ;-) |
| [15:38:39] | ** devinheitmueller 's ears are burning. ** | |
| [15:38:52] | ** J-e-f-f-A laughs. ;-) ** | |
| [15:39:16] | devinheitmueller: | jst_: I saw your email. I just got in a few minutes ago and am just getting caught up now. |
| [15:42:09] | jst_: | devinheitmueller, cool. :) |
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| [15:42:56] | janneg: | devinheitmueller: any progress on the HVR-950q in mythtv? |
| [15:43:20] | devinheitmueller: | janneg: I have a pretty good idea what the problem is, but haven't had a chance to nail down the actual fix in the driver. |
| [15:43:51] | devinheitmueller: | The real problem is I don't have any documentation on the power management for the au8522, so I have to reverse engineer the proper bits related to those three registers. |
| [15:44:55] | devinheitmueller: | I also uncovered a really nasty bug related to the fact that the same chip does both the analog decoding and is the digital demod, but that should only require a one line fix. |
| [15:45:06] | devinheitmueller: | janneg: do you actually have a 950q? |
| [15:45:41] | janneg: | devinheitmueller: but the digital side is properly shutdown with active eit scanning disabled and dvb on demand on? |
| [15:45:50] | devinheitmueller: | I haven't checked, but I suspect it is. |
| [15:46:09] | devinheitmueller: | I got sidetracked on "something else" that sucked up my whole weekend. |
| [15:46:42] | janneg: | no, I was just thinking that changes we need to make hybrid work properly |
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| [15:47:21] | devinheitmueller: | Oh, well at this point I am just going to tell everybody to turn off EIT. But yeah, seems like a pretty huge deficiency in the architecture to not have the EIT scanner take input groups into account. |
| [15:47:47] | devinheitmueller: | ... and combined with the lack of driver-level locking, could cause all sorts of messiness with lots of different drivers. |
| [15:48:46] | vanksi: | what table in the db stores the cutlists? |
| [15:49:11] | janneg: | I suspect the problem is more like not shutting down the eitscanner if the analog side is used |
| [15:49:12] | vanksi: | i ran 'mythcommflag --getcutlist 1003_20100217105500.mpg' and now i would like to see the cutpoints |
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| [15:49:44] | devinheitmueller: | janneg: yes, I suspect that is *exactly* the problem. The issue in more generic terms though is that the eitscanner should not be running at all if the input group is in use. |
| [15:50:16] | janneg: | vanksi: recerdedmarkup but mythcommflag --getcutlist should return the cutpoints |
| [15:50:48] | devinheitmueller: | I suspect the current eitscanner code is checking whether the *input* is in use when in fact it should be checking if the *inputgroup* is in use. |
| [15:51:02] | wagnerrp: | janneg: just disable EIT all together for US frequency tables |
| [15:51:04] | wagnerrp: | :P |
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| [15:51:34] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: the problem isn't specific to the US. There are plenty of non-US hybrid tuners. |
| [15:51:44] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i know |
| [15:51:52] | vanksi: | janneg, that returns "No program data exists for channel at" and "QSqlDatabasePrivate::removeDatabase: connection 'DBManager0' is still in use, all queries will cease to work." |
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| [15:52:06] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: Although admittedly that is a solution that would satisfy most of *my* user base. |
| [15:53:44] | vanksi: | janneg, well "select * from recordedmarkup;" "28 rows in set (0.00 sec)" so i got some markups |
| [15:54:20] | wagnerrp: | thats only enough for a couple recording |
| [15:54:25] | vanksi: | how can i confirm that the comm flagging is or isnt working? i get no indication on how to jump through commercials in the frontend when they start |
| [15:54:27] | janneg: | vanksi: you're missing a -f or --file |
| [15:54:28] | vanksi: | wagnerrp, i got 3 |
| [15:54:40] | wagnerrp: | sounds about right |
| [15:55:14] | vanksi: | now i'd just like to know how to cut out those commercials from that recording :) |
| [15:55:39] | wagnerrp: | open edit mode (e), load the skiplist (z) |
| [15:55:41] | vanksi: | preferably from the command line |
| [15:56:01] | vanksi: | wagnerrp, on the frontend? |
| [15:56:22] | wagnerrp: | yes, when watching a recording |
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| [15:58:06] | vanksi: | brilliang |
| [15:58:10] | ramindia: | hi all, iam setting up with mythtv with Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) |
| [15:58:15] | vanksi: | s/g/t/, it does work |
| [15:58:38] | wagnerrp: | ramindia: but what is your tuner card? |
| [15:58:45] | vanksi: | ramindia, i did that yesterday, but it was re 50 |
| [15:59:19] | vanksi: | nevermind, it was "Philips Semiconductors SAA7146 (rev 01)" |
| [15:59:58] | ramindia: | when i do lspci "01:06.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7130 Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01) |
| [15:59:58] | ramindia: | " |
| [16:00:25] | wagnerrp: | ramindia: but what is your tuner card? |
| [16:00:33] | wagnerrp: | the brand and model |
| [16:05:39] | ramindia: | i need to open the box and see what card it is..2min |
| [16:06:00] | wagnerrp: | you didnt purchase the card? |
| [16:06:25] | devinheitmueller: | Usually the brand and model are printed on the *outside* of the box. :-) |
| [16:06:32] | wagnerrp: | he means computer case |
| [16:06:34] | ramindia: | ok i got the box in hand |
| [16:06:35] | devinheitmueller: | oh. |
| [16:06:47] | devinheitmueller: | yeah, duh. |
| [16:06:48] | devinheitmueller: | ;-) |
| [16:06:56] | ramindia: | on the box it says super digitalvideo dazzle series |
| [16:07:17] | ramindia: | PAL B/G |
| [16:07:25] | devinheitmueller: | All your base are belong to us! |
| [16:07:30] | ramindia: | its quite old on..i have not used.. |
| [16:08:35] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: did u get that model, what i was mentioned |
| [16:09:28] | wagnerrp: | thats a tuner card? i remember a 'dazzle' line of flash card readers and analog capture devices |
| [16:09:31] | devinheitmueller: | ramindia: sounds like the one of the random no-name saa713x cards out there. Send some email to linux-media, and Hermann will probably try to help you out. |
| [16:09:33] | wagnerrp: | but dont remember ever seeing a tuner |
| [16:09:57] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: "http://www.fixya.com/support/t1698139-need_tv . . . dazzle" |
| [16:10:20] | ramindia: | devinheitmueller: this is the card mentioned above webpage |
| [16:10:58] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, it's a generic card design, sold by many different tiny companies under different names. |
| [16:11:14] | devinheitmueller: | Email linux-media, and Hermann would probably be able to help you. |
| [16:11:28] | ramindia: | linux-media ? |
| [16:11:32] | wagnerrp: | anyway... http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Saa713x_devices |
| [16:11:51] | devinheitmueller: | ramindia: the linux-media mailing list: http://linuxtv.org/lists.php |
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| [16:11:56] | wagnerrp: | if youre lucky, your card may be one of the manu/model numbers already picked up by the driver |
| [16:12:12] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: how can i check that ? |
| [16:12:16] | wagnerrp: | if not, it may be as simple as adding that information so the driver recognizes it |
| [16:12:42] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: if the driver already loaded, how can i check ? |
| [16:12:49] | devinheitmueller: | ramindia: plug in the card and see if there is a /dev/video0. |
| [16:13:02] | devinheitmueller: | ramindia: run: lsmod | grep saa7134 |
| [16:13:12] | wagnerrp: | and 'lspci -vnn' |
| [16:13:31] | devinheitmueller: | lspci won't really tell you though if a driver got loaded. |
| [16:13:39] | devinheitmueller: | It will only tell you if the hardware was found on the PCI bus. |
| [16:13:41] | wagnerrp: | the second line should have something like '[0070:7911]' |
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| [16:14:24] | ramindia: | wait iam going to paste the output |
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| [16:14:34] | wagnerrp: | use a pastebin |
| [16:15:09] | ramindia: | why myth pastebin taking long time to resolve |
| [16:15:23] | wagnerrp: | its had problems for a month or so |
| [16:15:32] | wagnerrp: | all of pastebin.ca has |
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| [16:15:56] | ramindia: | even pastebin.ca have same issue |
| [16:16:03] | wagnerrp: | yes... |
| [16:16:26] | skd5aner: | must be related to the olympics ;) |
| [16:16:53] | skd5aner: | Canada can't handle copy and paste, and winter games on the same "tubes" |
| [16:16:58] | wagnerrp: | only if the olympics started well over a month ago |
| [16:17:02] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: at last iam success with .org "http://pastebin.org/93107" |
| [16:20:17] | wagnerrp: | its not listed in the drivers... but this page seems to indicate it works... http://www.wlug.org.nz/pci/1131:7130 |
| [16:20:40] | wagnerrp: | however thats almost 5 years old, and you probably dont need to specify the tuner and card options any longer |
| [16:21:36] | skd5aner: | hmmm, this is interesting: http://www.google.com/trends?q=mythtv |
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| [16:22:24] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: i have like this in xbmc config "options saa7134-alsa index=-2 |
| [16:22:45] | ramindia: | what iam doing here is iam integrating mythtv with xbmc |
| [16:23:00] | skd5aner: | getting 50–75% less searches for "mythtv" than near it's peak |
| [16:23:04] | wagnerrp: | ramindia: i dont konw why you would.... xbmc does not support tuner cards |
| [16:23:12] | wagnerrp: | nor does it manage loading kernel drivers |
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| [16:23:36] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: xbmc not directly support, it uses myth tv and connect |
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| [16:24:00] | wagnerrp: | yes, but xbmc shouldnt even be aware of your tuner card |
| [16:24:11] | wagnerrp: | much less have the kernel module configuration |
| [16:24:31] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: i already have this line. can i add one more line as mentioned in the URL |
| [16:24:39] | skd5aner: | Hmm, even more interesting: http://www.google.com/trends?q=mythtv%2C+xbmc . . . l&sort=0 |
| [16:24:43] | devinheitmueller: | ramindia: looks like the driver loaded ok. Do you have a /dev/video0 entry? |
| [16:24:54] | ramindia: | devinheitmueller: yes i see |
| [16:24:55] | wagnerrp: | ramindia: not in any config file for xbmc |
| [16:24:58] | wagnerrp: | thats the wrong place |
| [16:25:04] | devinheitmueller: | ramindia: well, that's a good sign. |
| [16:25:06] | ramindia: | /dev/video0 |
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| [16:25:12] | devinheitmueller: | ramindia: have you tried capturing video? |
| [16:25:17] | wagnerrp: | if you have /dev/video0, youre probably all set |
| [16:25:28] | wagnerrp: | open tvtime, or something similar |
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| [16:26:10] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: give me 5min.. brb |
| [16:28:52] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: the user base has gone up considerably since 0.22... http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/mythtv.org#trafficstats |
| [16:28:55] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: since it was not working i have removed and setup fresh PC, so i need to recompile or install fresh installation, so i will take some time, is there any best method to install over ubuntu |
| [16:29:28] | wagnerrp: | seems theres a surprising number of russian users |
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| [16:33:52] | DixitDominus: | in soviet russia traffic uses you |
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| [16:44:09] | ramindia: | wagnerrp: looks like downloading bit slow.. as soon it downloaded and installed. i will be here |
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| [17:01:53] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: Russian users? or traffic coming out of Russion |
| [17:01:56] | skd5aner: | Russia |
| [17:04:59] | jst_: | Can anyone recommend a simple USB capture card that works with NTSC? |
| [17:05:08] | jst_: | (Preferably, one made by Hauppauge) |
| [17:05:34] | devinheitmueller: | jst_: HVR-950q? |
| [17:05:48] | jst_: | Ohh, is NTSC working for that? |
| [17:05:50] | devinheitmueller: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices |
| [17:06:03] | jst_: | Thanks (again). :) |
| [17:06:06] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, the NTSC is working, with a couple of mythtv related constraints. |
| [17:06:18] | skd5aner: | Also, increased traffic to mythtv.org after a release doesn't necessarily mean a greater user base, correct? |
| [17:06:19] | devinheitmueller: | (that was how I spent last January and February) |
| [17:06:32] | skd5aner: | I mean – I had to go to mythtv.org and download the new version :) |
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| [17:07:07] | devinheitmueller: | If you plan to use the 950q with MythTV though, there is an issue toggling back and forth between ATSC and NTSC mode, and you need to make sure you explicitly set the capture resolution to 720x480. |
| [17:07:15] | devinheitmueller: | (the second part is a MythTV bug) |
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| [17:09:19] | jst_: | devinheitmueller, if the 950q has some minor issues, should I go ahead and purchase the ATI TV Wonder HD 600 USB in its place? |
| [17:09:54] | wagnerrp: | if you want to use it with mythtv and NTSC, you probably shouldnt get either |
| [17:10:45] | jst_: | Hmm. I just need something cheap for an extra NTSC input. My PCI and PCIe cards are maxed out. |
| [17:11:06] | jst_: | Err, scratch that. I have one PCIe slot open. |
| [17:11:12] | devinheitmueller: | jst_: Well, the 950q does ATSC and QAM, whereas the 600 only does ATSC. |
| [17:11:47] | devinheitmueller: | I personally think the 950q is a better tuner (it has an xc5000 as opposed to the 600's xc3028), but the 600 has a little more mature of a driver. |
| [17:12:07] | devinheitmueller: | (and in the interest of not appearing biased, I actually did the driver support for both products) |
| [17:12:57] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp makes a good point though in terms of performance. Neither of the cards has an MPEG encoder, so if you plan on recording video, it will be more computationally expensive. |
| [17:13:16] | devinheitmueller: | The only product I know of that is USB and has an MPEG encoder is the HVR-1950. |
| [17:13:16] | jst_: | Ok. |
| [17:13:26] | devinheitmueller: | ... which is a bit on the pricey side. |
| [17:14:03] | jst_: | I should probably just bite the bullet and buy an HDPVR already. |
| [17:14:31] | jst_: | No chance that those Ceton CableCard readers will work outside of Vista/7, right? |
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| [17:14:52] | devinheitmueller: | jst_: almost certainly no. |
| [17:17:12] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [17:17:42] | wagnerrp: | cablecard licensing requires that the program support end-to-end encryption |
| [17:17:50] | wagnerrp: | something you cannot provide in an open source application |
| [17:18:04] | AndyCap: | not in a tamper-resistant way at least |
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| [17:19:01] | skd5aner: | Also, someone has to "purchase" that license – and in the linux world, which "body" would do that? |
| [17:19:49] | skd5aner: | Microsoft can easily do that as they can be responsible for the license on the windows platform, I wouldn't expect that canonical could do the same (open source or not) |
| [17:20:01] | skd5aner: | and I doubt they would sell the license directly to the end-user |
| [17:20:18] | skd5aner: | or Red Hat, etc |
| [17:20:46] | AndyCap: | skd5aner: well, I'm sure there are a number of cablecard implementations being planned or running on linux. :) |
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| [17:20:59] | AndyCap: | on sony, samsung, philips etc. |
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| [17:21:10] | skd5aner: | AndyCap: you mean on closed-source STBs? |
| [17:21:19] | skd5aner: | running linux based kernels or something? |
| [17:21:20] | wagnerrp: | i believe tivo has always been linux |
| [17:21:24] | wagnerrp: | skd5aner: correct |
| [17:21:25] | AndyCap: | skd5aner: partially closed yes. |
| [17:21:54] | skd5aner: | yea, but those are commercial entities that can make money on the direct sell of those STBs |
| [17:21:59] | AndyCap: | skd5aner: so even if you get the source you can't be allowed to modify the running code |
| [17:22:25] | wagnerrp: | but you cant see that specific portion of the code |
| [17:22:31] | skd5aner: | right |
| [17:22:34] | wagnerrp: | as that code contains the keys to the whole system |
| [17:22:42] | wagnerrp: | if you saw the code, the DRM is globally broken |
| [17:23:03] | AndyCap: | uhh. not exactly, but yeah, you can't get the secret keys |
| [17:23:40] | wagnerrp: | i was presuming the keys would be included in that |
| [17:23:40] | AndyCap: | then again, the failing of DRM is. Recipient === Attacker |
| [17:24:13] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: somehow I suspect the keys are read from some memory device, not compiled in. |
| [17:24:38] | AndyCap: | or you'd have to compile a new firmware for every box you ship |
| [17:25:09] | wagnerrp: | is it a separate key for each box? |
| [17:25:28] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: for cablecard I don't know, but that is my understanding of CI+ |
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| [17:28:43] | vanksi: | is it possible to use VBR MP3 audio or just crop 1 px from the top with nuvexport? |
| [17:29:04] | vanksi: | target is xvid |
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| [17:29:50] | skd5aner: | vanksi – I don't belive the scripts will allow those settings out of the box, but you can easily edit the xvid.pm script to allow for those features |
| [17:30:13] | skd5aner: | also, you can specify 0.1 for the crop percentage |
| [17:30:20] | skd5aner: | that'll take off just a few pixels |
| [17:31:04] | skd5aner: | not sure about the VBR for the audio – that'll probably take changes to the command line in the script |
| [17:31:49] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: not clear on Host_ID in the spec being unique per device or product, but it looks like it's unique for each box. (And it's a X.509 certificate) |
| [17:33:55] | vanksi: | skd5aner, ok, ill look into it, where's xvid.pm located? |
| [17:36:42] | AndyCap: | oh great, Validity is not greater than 30 years. so that means my tv would expire soon if it were a cablecard device. |
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| [17:40:31] | skd5aner: | vanksi: depends, if you're using ffmpeg, mine is located in: /usr/local/share/nuvexport/export/ffmpeg/XviD.pm |
| [17:40:50] | skd5aner: | if transcode, it's under ../export/transcode/ |
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| [17:46:14] | gbee_: | wagnerrp: people are reporting success with PCI + vdpau + 1080 h.264? I'm a little dubious, one of the reasons IGPs + AMD cpus have problems is the reduced bus at low clock speeds, can PCI really deliver? |
| [17:47:37] | wagnerrp: | gbee_: i was doing HDDVD and BR rips over a 8400 PCI on an old 800MHz P3 |
| [17:49:26] | AndyCap: | isn't pci stuck at 33 or 66Mhz regardless? |
| [17:49:58] | wagnerrp: | sure, but the bus can push 133MB/s, compared to the 5MB/s of maximum bitrate bluray |
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| [17:50:31] | ** AndyCap was just wondering why PCI would do worse with low clock speeds. ** | |
| [17:52:10] | gbee_: | AndyCap: PCI-E, and for all I know, only IGPs, when AMD processors scale the frequency down to 1000Mhz the bus speed drops to a level where it causes problems for VDPAU |
| [17:52:47] | AndyCap: | gbee_: so PCI-E and not PCI then. |
| [17:53:09] | oobe: | wagnerrp, im thinking about getting a pci 8400 for my p4 frontend what one are u using |
| [17:53:53] | wagnerrp: | Sparkle fanless 512MB G98 |
| [17:54:21] | gbee_: | AndyCap: just questioning whether PCI with it's 133MB/s is still fast than a restricted PCI-E bus which starts out at upwards of 4GB/s, seems unlikely that the frequency scaling would cut the bus speed to sub-PCI levels |
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| [17:54:50] | oobe: | this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187042 |
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| [17:55:13] | AndyCap: | gbee_: nah, but I guess it could really mess up timing if something tries to deliver just in time. |
| [17:55:17] | wagnerrp: | looks like it |
| [17:55:21] | oobe: | thats the one i was thinking about |
| [17:55:23] | wagnerrp: | not the most robust of cards |
| [17:55:29] | gbee_: | 5MB/s seems low btw? broadcast h.264 comes in at ~10MB/s |
| [17:55:30] | wagnerrp: | the first one worked for the UI |
| [17:55:34] | wagnerrp: | but would crash on VDPAU |
| [17:55:48] | oobe: | first one? |
| [17:55:49] | wagnerrp: | replacement worked fine, for the couple months i used it before replacing it |
| [17:55:54] | oobe: | ok |
| [17:56:04] | oobe: | shit |
| [17:56:10] | oobe: | 3 same model |
| [17:56:26] | wagnerrp: | oobe: i just ended up replacing the machine with a new one and a 8200 |
| [17:56:44] | wagnerrp: | $200 for the full upgrade, versus $50 for the card |
| [17:56:45] | oobe: | im using a 5200fx it can do 1080 @60 which i found it is unusual |
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| [17:56:57] | wagnerrp: | gbee_: where do you get video in at 80mbps? |
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| [17:57:15] | oobe: | but some media makes it a bit loud and i dont like using xvmc and of course cant use it for a lot of things |
| [17:57:37] | bpgoldsb: | Can anyone recommend a tuner card that has hardware encoding, NTSC, and is PCI-E? |
| [17:57:45] | oobe: | im using a sff case |
| [17:57:52] | bpgoldsb: | (and works in linux unlike my HVR-2250) |
| [17:57:53] | oobe: | so i cant change the mobo |
| [17:58:05] | wagnerrp: | bpgoldsb: the 1800 fits the bill, but NTSC on that card has issues with mythtv |
| [17:58:29] | oobe: | i heard some of the new onboard nvidia hdmi work well with alsa so that's worth thinking about |
| [17:58:35] | wagnerrp: | or if you feel up to it, you could take a stab at the NTSC driver for the 2250 |
| [17:58:39] | bpgoldsb: | wagnerrp: the same issues as the 2250? i.e. not analog support at all |
| [17:58:46] | wagnerrp: | the 2250 has no driver at all |
| [17:58:55] | wagnerrp: | the 1800/1850 has an issue between the driver and mythtv |
| [17:59:11] | bpgoldsb: | I used the one from the linuxtv hg repo for the 2250, and digital video works. |
| [17:59:14] | devinheitmueller: | bpgoldsb: the 2250 driver has no analog support. The 1800 has analog support, but there is a bug that is exposed by mythtv. |
| [17:59:28] | bpgoldsb: | How serious of a bug are we talking? Got a link? |
| [17:59:40] | gbee_: | wagnerrp: sorry, guess my brain's asleep today, I read that as Mb/s even as I typed MB/s |
| [17:59:41] | oobe: | i changed my dvi to hdmi cable for a agp cable wagnerrp remember i was looking at converters reason why is the audio wont come out of the speakers unless im using pc input on the tv |
| [17:59:53] | oobe: | so hdmi with audio would be a nice feature |
| [17:59:58] | devinheitmueller: | bpgoldsb: the net result of the issue is that the analog is basically broken under Myth. |
| [18:00:27] | devinheitmueller: | It's on my todo list to fix it, but I've been tied up with too many other projects. |
| [18:00:33] | bpgoldsb: | And if I didn't have hardware encoding, the backend would be doing it, not the frontend, right? |
| [18:00:48] | devinheitmueller: | bpgoldsb: correct. The backend will do software encoding. |
| [18:01:25] | bpgoldsb: | Is there a functional PCI-E card w/ working NTSC card that doesn't have an encoder? |
| [18:02:14] | devinheitmueller: | not really. Pretty much all the single tuner PCIe designs are based on cx23885 driver, and they all have the same bug. |
| [18:02:41] | bpgoldsb: | Well, I guess I'll return my 2250 and see if I can find a PVR-500 |
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| [18:03:15] | bpgoldsb: | Thanks for the advice |
| [18:03:35] | devinheitmueller: | bpgoldsb: Sure, let Hauppauge pay the price for your not taking the time to look up Linux support before making your purchase. |
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| [18:05:35] | skd5aner: | or just blame devinheitmueller for not fixing it already ;) j/k |
| [18:05:40] | bpgoldsb: | Ya, I guess I was foolish to think a company that had a good track record of linux support would continue to have it. What was I thinking. |
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| [18:06:13] | devinheitmueller: | bpgoldsb: Yeah, since they have never officially contributed to Linux, that would be pretty foolish. |
| [18:06:14] | kormoc: | bpgoldsb: when they're not always able to provide support, it's hardly their fault... |
| [18:06:38] | lydgate_: | I've got a hauppauge wintv nova-t pci, and the remote shows up as a keyboard, which is great. I've just got a harmony remote, and was wondering whether it's possible to map more keys than are on the original hauppauge remote? or is it limited to those |
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| [18:07:02] | devinheitmueller: | lydgate_: Yeah, it will work with lirc. You just need to setup the lirc profile properly. |
| [18:07:21] | lydgate_: | devinheitmueller: so if I set up lirc, I can add an arbitrary number of keys? |
| [18:07:24] | devinheitmueller: | You cannot really use the in-kernel input device mapping to work with artibrary remotes. |
| [18:07:37] | devinheitmueller: | ... so you will use lirc instead of the in-kernel mapping. |
| [18:07:42] | lydgate_: | ah ok |
| [18:08:05] | lydgate_: | so do I have to somehow disable the kernel method? or will setting up lirc override it |
| [18:08:15] | devinheitmueller: | setting up lirc should override it. |
| [18:08:28] | lydgate_: | ok |
| [18:08:33] | devinheitmueller: | lydgate_: there is actually a page on the linuxtv.org wiki that talks about setting up lirc for use with the nova-t 500. |
| [18:08:52] | lydgate_: | devinheitmueller: great, I'll have a look |
| [18:08:57] | lydgate_: | is it quite hard to setup? |
| [18:09:20] | devinheitmueller: | Depends on whom you ask. I have generally found getting *anything* to work with lirc to be a bitch. |
| [18:09:27] | lydgate_: | right |
| [18:09:35] | lydgate_: | i've tried to avoid it thusfar |
| [18:09:44] | lydgate_: | but it's either that or buy another IR receiver which seems silly |
| [18:09:49] | devinheitmueller: | that said, doing it for the nova-t shouldn't be any harder than any other product. |
| [18:10:15] | lydgate_: | ok thanks that's really helpful |
| [18:10:38] | devinheitmueller: | np |
| [18:10:53] | lydgate_: | i've set up some tedious things in my day, at least this one will have a nice payoff |
| [18:11:30] | devinheitmueller: | Yeah, I hear good things about the Harmony remote. Good luck! |
| [18:12:27] | lydgate_: | I've got the Harmony One, apart from the clunky Windows configuration utility it's pretty much ideal |
| [18:12:54] | lydgate_: | I haven't messed with the linux drivers, just run winblows in virtualbox |
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| [19:39:11] | vanksi: | i'm stuck running "/usr/bin/mythtranscode --showprogress -p '29' -c '1003' -s '2010-02–17T10:55:00' -f "/tmp/fifodir_31038/" --honorcutlist" in nuvexport, it just idles after outputting "2010-02–17 21:16:03.895 Using protocol version 50" |
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| [19:45:09] | lydgate: | I have a harmony remote, can I add more keys than my hauppauge remote has and still use the same IR receiver with lirc? or am I better off getting a generic/MCE IR receiver? |
| [19:45:46] | lydgate: | devinheitmueller said lirc could learn new buttons but it's not obvious how this would work... at least it seems it can only pick up the hauppauge signals |
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| [20:07:42] | vanksi: | i'm getting "mythtranscode died early.Please use the --debug option to figure out what went wrong." when doing nuvexport-xvid |
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| [20:50:06] | vanksi: | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1301087.html thats my exact problem |
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| [21:08:20] | skd5aner: | vanksi – you should just be able to launch "nuvexport" then select xvid |
| [21:08:40] | skd5aner: | not sure that'll do anything for your problem though, just saying |
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| [21:33:43] | skd5aner: | also, are you using transcode, mencoder, or transcode? |
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| [22:10:31] | wagnerrp: | seems my HDHR is working properly under freebsd now |
| [22:10:46] | wagnerrp: | or at least a couple minutes of livetv seem to have worked |
| [22:11:13] | wagnerrp: | my MBE is a proper BE now |
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| [22:15:06] | skd5aner: | wagnerrp: you running your production MBE systeom on freeBSD? |
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| [22:17:36] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
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| [22:21:54] | wagnerrp: | although freebsd suffers from a lack of tuner support |
| [22:22:55] | skd5aner: | yea – but apparently, all is well now with the HDHR? |
| [22:23:15] | wagnerrp: | i had it working fine ages ago with the HDHR |
| [22:23:26] | wagnerrp: | but some time during the 0.22 dev cycle, it stopped working all together |
| [22:23:28] | skd5aner: | i see... just curious |
| [22:23:36] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [22:24:18] | wagnerrp: | it was working again maybe 6–8 months ago, but i could only make 2–3 channel changes, or run for a minute or two, before it randomly dropped access |
| [22:24:21] | skd5aner: | any reason why you chose to run with FreeBSD for your MBE? Just for fun/To make sure it would work/to work on support/to torture yourself? |
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| [22:25:05] | skd5aner: | my entry to *nix was on FreeBSD ~2001, haven't used it probably since 04/05'ish |
| [22:25:18] | wagnerrp: | i had been running freebsd as my main server for years before i started using mythtv |
| [22:26:03] | skd5aner: | yea – I was pretty comfortable with it at the time, I think myth (and a few other projects) is one of the main reasons I forced myself over to the linux world |
| [22:26:23] | wagnerrp: | since thats where the file storage was, it only made sense to offload as much of the backend tasks there as possible |
| [22:26:25] | skd5aner: | jumped from FreeBSD to Debian at the time |
| [22:26:53] | skd5aner: | yea – why not – if it works, even without tuners could make for a SBE |
| [22:27:27] | wagnerrp: | technically, there are some deficiencies that make a BE not function properly without tuners |
| [22:27:44] | wagnerrp: | i dont remember what specifically, off hand |
| [22:27:52] | skd5aner: | I think I recall hearing that... havne't experienced it myself |
| [22:28:05] | skd5aner: | both of mine have tuners, so... |
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| [22:39:20] | wagnerrp: | well with all these slot-less atoms coming out, and independent SBE shutdown available |
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| [22:39:32] | wagnerrp: | it makes more sense to be able to have a tunerless backend |
| [22:40:11] | wagnerrp: | i heard some discussion about possibly 'bloating' mythcommflag to include storage group and scheduler support |
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| [22:43:38] | skd5aner: | makes some sense |
| [22:44:02] | wagnerrp: | so you could have a little 10–15W 'backend' with spundown hard drives |
| [22:44:16] | wagnerrp: | which brings SBEs online as needed |
| [22:44:21] | skd5aner: | is mythcommflag threaded to take advantage of multiple processors/cores? |
| [22:44:43] | wagnerrp: | if it is, its no more than two threads |
| [22:44:49] | wagnerrp: | one for decoding, one for processing |
| [22:44:54] | wagnerrp: | but im thinking its all single threaded |
| [22:45:34] | skd5aner: | can you run multiple instances of mythcommflag? |
| [22:45:48] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [22:46:05] | wagnerrp: | limited by the number of concurrent jobs you allowed the jobqueue to execute |
| [22:46:21] | skd5aner: | right, I knew about the job limit, but didn't know if mythcommflag itself was limited |
| [22:46:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | tunerless mythbackend will be supported a supported config, possibly by 0.24. I was looking at some of the code the other day and ahve been thinking of it as I work on the MFileSystemWatcher code. |
| [22:46:58] | skd5aner: | Captain_Murdoch: what "breaks" without a tuner assigned to a BE? |
| [22:47:06] | Captain_Murdoch: | remote storage reporting for one. |
| [22:47:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | possibly a few other things in teh master, I've not looked through all the code. |
| [22:47:39] | skd5aner: | k – thx |
| [22:48:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | nothing major, because there are people doing it, but I believe that storage ona tunerless slave is still not reported on. there are some people using tunerless slaves to serve up MythVideo files. |
| [22:48:17] | wagnerrp: | thats the bigger issue... it was never intended as such, so there will be unintended behavior |
| [22:48:54] | wagnerrp: | its currently more of a 'seems to work' config |
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| [22:50:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | main issue is that the master's communication with slaves is via the 'encoder list', not using the complete client list and only looking at slaves. so when we ask slaves for their storage, we talk to remote encoders, not necessarily all slaves. there also may be one or two places in the master that don't work right without tuners, I thought I saw one the other day but need to investigate/test. |
| [22:51:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | sending events does work correctly, it may just be the storage part that I never considered when creating storage groups. :( |
| [22:52:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | I do plan on looking at it soon, because I like the concept of dropping a tunerless slave onto any server with storage and having it serve up media to frontend clients. |
| [22:57:22] | wagnerrp: | that would necessitate SG writes too, wouldnt it? |
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| [22:58:09] | wagnerrp: | AFAICT, recordings could be moved to SGs right now, and transcodes could be as soon as there is a 'move' function added? |
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| [23:25:53] | john___: | posted this in ubuntu-mythtv without response, so trying again here hi, I have a winfast DTV2000H tv card which is not detected in mythbuntu-setup – the mythtv terminal has "cant open DVB frontend(/dev/dvb/adapter0/ frontend0) for /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 " any help? |
| [23:29:48] | wseltzer: | john___: does the card work in other applications? |
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| [23:30:41] | john___: | I had it working before under mythbuntu but I reinstalled as I want to run without a graphics card |
| [23:30:59] | john___: | any applications to test with? |
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| [23:32:14] | wseltzer: | try mplayer, or the dvb-utils |
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| [23:36:57] | john___: | not sure how to get either working? |
| [23:41:03] | wseltzer: | can you open a terminal and see if there are any messages about dvb when you run dmesg? |
| [23:43:07] | john___: | dmesg has lots of references to dvb and cx88xx, I managed to get dvb-utils to run a scan which picked up all the channels it should |
| [23:45:33] | wseltzer: | is there anything else that might be using the DVB card at the time? |
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| [23:47:50] | john___: | shouldnt be – clean install |
| [23:49:40] | wseltzer: | are you getting the message when running mythtv-setup? and have you stopped the backend before running setup? |
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| [23:54:17] | john___: | the message pops up in the mythtv setup terminal, backend is stopped |
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| [23:57:28] | john___: | for some reason the error goes away when I run sudo mythtv-setup |
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