Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Friday, February 12th, 2010, 00:03 UTC

[00:03:44]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o stuartm

[00:04:24]

Mode for #mythtv-users by stuartm!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust213.leic.cable.ntl.com : +b *!*@212-149-243-237.bb.dnainternet.fi

[00:04:29]

paperclip (paperclip!~paperclip@ip72-204-175-205.no.no.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:04:36]

Mode for #mythtv-users by stuartm!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust213.leic.cable.ntl.com : -o stuartm

[00:05:31]

andreax (andreax!~andreaz@p57B95FF5.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:08:23]

dkeith___ (dkeith___!~dkeith@65.222.148.203) has quit (Quit: Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com)

[00:08:42]

andreax1 (andreax1!~andreaz@p57B95FF5.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[00:10:29]

hachi:

if I can `scan` on my ATSC input... QAM_256 in particular, and get 371 services... how can I identify them

[00:10:49]

hachi:

is there a column I can use to correlate things to each other... are some of them audio services for other video services?

[00:11:06]

hachi:

is there a way I can get the callsign for each of them without mythtv?

[00:27:04]

k-man:

is the appletv fast enough to run mythtv-frontend?

[00:27:09]

k-man:

for full hd playback

[00:28:30]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@99.165.106.212) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[00:28:53]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-165-106-212.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:29:27]

PointyPumper (PointyPumper!~pintlezz@190.244.90.204) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:31:53]

stuartm:

doubt it

[00:33:14]

iamlindoro:

not even close

[00:33:49]

iamlindoro:

if you tweak the crap out of it, use XvMC, and turn off every possible bit of OSD eye candy, you can ALMOST make it play back ATSC MPEG-2 acceptably

[00:33:52]

iamlindoro:

sometimes

[00:34:20]

Dave123 (Dave123!~dave@cpe-74-69-108-236.rochester.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:34:26]

wagnerrp:

i thought the newer ones shipped with one of those crystalhd cards

[00:34:57]

iamlindoro:

nope, apple has never shipped Crystal HD cards in Apple TVs

[00:35:06]

iamlindoro:

not that that would help you in myth even if they did

[00:35:23]

wagnerrp:

no, but it would make a big difference in xbmc

[00:35:34]

wagnerrp:

and possibly myth by next ffmpeg sync

[00:35:54]

iamlindoro:

doesn't make my answer any less correct

[00:36:04]

wagnerrp:

true

[00:36:07]

iamlindoro:

apple doesn't ship ATVs with decoder cards, and he asked about Myth

[00:36:09]

wagnerrp:

i had misread it initially

[00:36:19]

wagnerrp:

thought you said 'xbmc' rather than 'xvmc'

[00:36:27]

iamlindoro:

ah

[00:37:51]

wagnerrp:

the former is somewhat frequently discussed, the latter rarely ever enters into my mind

[00:37:55]

wagnerrp:

except to tell someone not to use it

[00:38:04]

Caliban (Caliban!~ianmacd@jiskefet.caliban.org) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:40:21]

iamlindoro:

So post -sync, I can play back my maxed out HD-PVR stuff in Software decode/Xv on a 2.4 Ghz Core 2

[00:40:22]

jcarlos (jcarlos!~quassel@85.137.0.159.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:40:40]

iamlindoro:

huge performance bump, that

[00:40:53]

wagnerrp:

should take care of the people wanting skip_loop_filter

[00:41:12]

wagnerrp:

except now they would just want to play it back on even lesser hardware

[00:41:18]

iamlindoro:

yeah :(

[00:41:29]

iamlindoro:

admittedly the above is w/ Linear Blend, I haven't tried anything fancier yet

[00:41:56]

wagnerrp:

doesnt deint run in a second core? meaning you could probably run whatever you wanted?

[00:42:21]

abqjp:

I still would like to see an informed comparison between yadif 2x and VDPAU Advanced 2x.

[00:42:34]

JJ (JJ!~jjensen@jeffjensen.dsl.visi.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:42:48]

iamlindoro:

some of the deinterlacers are multithreaded, but not all of them, and I think we still do decode and deint in a single thread for the others

[00:44:50]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)

[00:45:33]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:46:39]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:46:48]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[00:47:16]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@host188.tgsmc.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[00:47:52]

stuartm:

abqjp: I'd personally like to see an independently arranged, double-blind survey to determine if people really can tell the difference between the top end deinterlacers and which they really prefer (without the hardware decoder bias)

[00:48:52]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[00:49:37]

iamlindoro:

would probable come out a lot like any monster cable test

[00:49:41]

iamlindoro:

er probably

[00:49:48]

stuartm:

and you might guess on which outcome my money would go

[00:52:30]

pheld (pheld!~heldal@cl-5.osl-01.no.sixxs.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[00:52:40]

abqjp:

stuartm: Yeah. The higher the source resolution that harder it is to see the jaggies anyway. Although, full screen pans on 1080i material are noticeably less smooth than with progressive material

[00:53:21]

abqjp:

stuartm: isn't it like 1am there? I thought you were sick! Get some sleep.

[00:53:39]

stuartm:

abqjp: having trouble sleeping :/

[00:53:59]

abqjp:

That is no fun :(

[00:54:51]

stuartm:

that said, I'm not sure sitting in front of the computer screen is helping the situation

[00:55:10]

hednod (hednod!~nomad@wintermute.probsd.net) has quit (Quit: Reconnecting)

[00:55:14]

hednod (hednod!~nomad@wintermute.probsd.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:55:18]

** stuartm goes to count sheep **

[00:56:02]

jcarlos (jcarlos!~quassel@85.137.0.159.dyn.user.ono.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)

[00:57:47]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-165-106-212.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[00:58:23]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-165-106-212.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:58:33]

abqjp (abqjp!~abqjp@97-119-165-158.albq.qwest.net) has quit (Quit: abqjp)

[01:00:06]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@kalis.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:00:11]

dkeith__ (dkeith__!~dkeith@12.238.60.2) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:00:27]

abqjp (abqjp!~abqjp@97-119-165-158.albq.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:01:11]

abqjp (abqjp!~abqjp@97-119-165-158.albq.qwest.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[01:03:55]

danielk22 (danielk22!~danielk@96.57.9.142) has quit (Read error: No route to host)

[01:05:50]

Defense|Twin (Defense|Twin!~jepz@d138226.adsl.hansenet.de) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[01:06:47]

cecil (cecil!~cecil@pool-108-0-54-214.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:07:11]

cesman (cesman!~cecil@pdpc/supporter/professional/cesman) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[01:07:47]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@cpe-70-112-205-173.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:14:17]

Cubber (Cubber!~ronny@cpe-24-58-134-75.twcny.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:14:38]

Cubber (Cubber!~ronny@cpe-24-58-134-75.twcny.res.rr.com) has left #mythtv-users ()

[01:17:47]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.178.166) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:19:42]

ThisOtherGuy:

Hi all

[01:22:53]

jcarlos (jcarlos!~quassel@85.137.0.159.dyn.user.ono.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:27:26]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-165-106-212.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[01:27:40]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-165-106-212.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:39:17]

danielk22 (danielk22!~danielk@96.57.9.142) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[01:51:52]

PointyPumper (PointyPumper!~pintlezz@190.244.90.204) has quit ()

[01:52:37]

Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!~chris@h232.230.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[01:54:42]

bonelifer (bonelifer!HydraIRC@ACA4B33A.ipt.aol.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:55:24]

kothog (kothog!~kothog@unaffiliated/kothog) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:56:57]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.178.166) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[02:03:59]

[R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:04:01]

kormoc (kormoc!~kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has quit (Quit: kormoc)

[02:11:37]

inordkuo (inordkuo!~inorkuo@adsl-243-141-68.int.bellsouth.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:14:42]

dkeith__ (dkeith__!~dkeith@12.238.60.2) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[02:18:22]

nickware (nickware!~nickware@unaffiliated/nickware) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:29:45]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-165-106-212.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[02:30:22]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-165-106-212.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:32:21]

jya (jya!~avenardj@60-242-40-141.static.tpgi.com.au) has quit (Quit: jya)

[02:39:16]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@cpe-76-93-149-51.san.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:40:00]

bonelifer (bonelifer!HydraIRC@ACA4B33A.ipt.aol.com) has quit (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Organize your IRC)

[02:40:29]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[02:40:44]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:41:04]

mc_shaky (mc_shaky!~sean@cpe-69-204-170-57.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:43:43]

slickrick_:

whats the name of the new mythtv tool that replaces fill_mythvideo_metadata?

[02:43:55]

wagnerrp:

jamu?

[02:44:13]

slickrick_:

wagnerrp: thats it ... thx. was having a mental block.

[02:45:19]

slickrick_:

wagnerrp: btw, rebuilding my raid10 as a raid6 ... it's just sync'ing now.

[02:52:26]

jya (jya!~avenardj@60-242-40-141.static.tpgi.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:53:49]

mag0o:

what would cause this http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1794209 with 'Archive Files' > 'Create DVD' ?

[02:56:14]

wagnerrp:

really... i didnt know that used python

[03:02:51]

skd5aner:

wagnerrp: yup – mytharchive was just an evolution of the third-party mythburn scripts

[03:02:55]

jya (jya!~avenardj@60-242-40-141.static.tpgi.com.au) has quit (Quit: jya)

[03:04:15]

skd5aner:

I think paulh took the original mythburn and transformed it to a mythplugin, but a good portion of the scripts remained

[03:04:55]

skd5aner:

also – the first versions of mythburn scripts were actually integrated with mythweb and not the frontend

[03:07:00]

dashcloud:

I can't seem to get my database to restore- I follow the instructions- drop the old database, create the new one with mc.sql, change the mythtv default sql password to my current one, flush privileges, and try to restore my db. It always says Unable to do full restore- the database contains data.

[03:07:18]

skd5aner:

mag0o: this looks like something to focus on: "chmod: changing permissions of `/tmp/mytharchive/': Operation not permitted"

[03:08:24]

skd5aner:

dashcloud: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore & ndash; you referring to these directions?

[03:08:29]

dashcloud:

yes

[03:08:51]

wagnerrp:

huh... ive got three recording drives

[03:09:01]

wagnerrp:

and three recordings simultaneously on one of the drives

[03:09:33]

dashcloud:

I recently installed mythbuntu onto my new pc, and was following that guide to replace the existing db with my old one from my previous pc

[03:11:05]

skd5aner:

I'm assuming you read the "replacing an existing database" section of the wiki article?

[03:11:27]

mag0o:

skd5aner: i saw that the first time it errored out so i changed /tmp/mytharchive 777 and still get that, so that's why I brought it here :)

[03:11:48]

skd5aner:

mag0o: it's never the obvious stuff :)

[03:12:35]

mag0o:

hmm...

[03:13:34]

mag0o:

so, upon further investigation, the config and logs dir are owned my the user that runs the frontend, while the work dir and subdirs are owned by root and 755

[03:14:17]

skd5aner:

does chown the dir make a difference?

[03:14:49]

mag0o:

actually, just the subdirs in work are owned by root and 755

[03:14:57]

mag0o:

i'll try that and see

[03:15:41]

dashcloud:

skd5aner: is this the correct set of steps to restore my backup? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1794226

[03:17:07]

adante_ (adante_!~adante@59.167.212.65) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:18:50]

Heliwr_ (Heliwr_!~Heliwr@S0106000000000001.vs.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:18:52]

Heliwr (Heliwr!~Heliwr@S0106000000000001.vs.shawcable.net) has quit (Write error: Broken pipe)

[03:18:52]

Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr

[03:19:06]

kormoc (kormoc!~kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:19:06]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc

[03:20:39]

christ_ (christ_!~Billybob@CPE00e04b0b7799-CM00111a59bdac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[03:20:43]

skd5aner:

dashcloud: I believe so, but honestly have not had to run through that restore script before

[03:21:25]

dashcloud:

if there's another way to restore my old .22 DB to my new system, I'd be more than happy to try it

[03:21:52]

skd5aner:

I usually just use the mysql commands honestly

[03:22:31]

skd5aner:

but that's no longer the recommended way for myth

[03:23:40]

adante (adante!~adante@59.167.212.65) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)

[03:23:41]

adante_ is now known as adante

[03:24:57]

skd5aner:

dashcloud, when you drop the database, and the run the mc.sql script, then run the restore script it still says you have an existing database?

[03:25:54]

dashcloud:

skd5aner: in between the running of the mc.sql and the restore script, I change the mythtv user mysql password as suggested in the wiki

[03:26:34]

skd5aner:

well, honestly – I wish I could be of more help but 1) I haven't restored using that script before, and 2) I've got to run :(

[03:26:55]

skd5aner:

If sphery is around, he basically wrote the script and the documentation, so maybe he can give better advice

[03:27:23]

dashcloud:

thanks anyway

[03:28:49]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:32:24]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[03:33:15]

CNLiberal (CNLiberal!~joltman@c-68-54-223-205.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:34:23]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:34:29]

CNLiberal:

when I do analog channel scanning, the scan hangs. In the Setup Terminal, I see this error "DTVParamHelper::toString()"

[03:34:35]

CNLiberal:

is there any way I can fix this?

[03:34:45]

[R]:

you can not use analog channel scan

[03:34:48]

[R]:

because its horribly broken and stupid

[03:34:49]

wagnerrp:

stop trying to scan analog tuners

[03:34:53]

jya (jya!~avenardj@gw2.hydrix.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:35:05]

CNLiberal:

so I should get rid of all my analog channels for now?

[03:35:09]

wagnerrp:

CNLiberal: you live in the US, you dont have to scan analog

[03:35:11]

CNLiberal:

how long has it been broken

[03:35:20]

wagnerrp:

you pull a lineup from your SchedulesDirect account

[03:35:25]

CNLiberal:

wagnerrp: yes i do

[03:35:40]

wagnerrp:

ever since the new channel scanner went in prior to the 0.22 release

[03:35:46]

wagnerrp:

the analog portion has not been written yet

[03:36:03]

CNLiberal:

but when I choose Fetch Channels, somethings not right...when i go to the guide, and choose a channel in analog range, it never displays

[03:36:39]

CNLiberal:

so i guess, i don't use analog for now...I need digital channels. I really want to watch the Olympics

[03:39:28]

dashcloud (dashcloud!~quassel@71.246.26.87) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[03:42:04]

Gremlin484 (Gremlin484!~Gremlin48@ip68-99-5-66.om.om.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:42:51]

CNLiberal:

so i've deleted video sources

[03:43:01]

CNLiberal:

and i'm just going to do a digital scan no

[03:43:03]

CNLiberal:

*now

[03:43:20]

sphery:

seems I just missed dashcloud...

[03:44:36]

CNLiberal:

but the mythfilldatabase doesn't seem to put any channel info in for my digital channels...i really must have jacked things up

[03:45:32]

sphery:

CNLiberal: mythfilldatabase never puts channels in the DB for digital sources since generally either a) the channels aren't usable without a scan or b) the channels are not necessarily available under your cable subscription

[03:45:51]

sphery:

CNLiberal: what are you using for capture?

[03:46:33]

sphery:

CNLiberal: see mythfilldatabase --help (and look closely at --do-not-filter-new-channels )

[03:47:09]

sphery:

though it will /only/ work for channels that are externally tuned (i.e. by a cable or satellite box or an HDTV converter feeding some analog capture device)

[03:47:19]

christ_ (christ_!~Billybob@CPE00e04b0b7799-CM00111a59bdac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:48:58]

CNLiberal:

i'm using an HDHR

[03:49:17]

CNLiberal:

it's scanning now...but i'll need to fill in the db for the channel info

[03:50:30]

CNLiberal:

i'll look at the --help when it's done

[03:50:35]

sphery:

yeah, you'll need to scan with the HDHR, then you fill in the xmltvid, then you run mythfilldatabase

[03:51:03]

CNLiberal:

"fill in the xmltvid"?

[03:51:04]

sphery:

see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 (and note that the link it refers to is now at http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Channel_Editor )

[03:51:08]

CNLiberal:

ahh

[03:51:13]

CNLiberal:

yeah the Channel editor

[03:51:15]

CNLiberal:

i've been readin that

[03:51:45]

sphery:

yeah, the xmltvid is what links a MythTV channel to a listings-provider channel so mythfilldatabase knows which shows correspond to which channels

[03:52:13]

sphery:

CNLiberal: also, if you're using Comcast cable, you may want to check out http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Comcast_Users_And_scte65scan

[03:52:26]

CNLiberal:

i couldn't get scte65scan to compile

[03:52:31]

sphery:

i.e. it will do everything for you (but only for cable co's using SCTE65

[03:52:46]

sphery:

that part I can't help with

[03:53:24]

CNLiberal:

ok...so scan is done..."Found 7new non-conflicting ATSC channels"

[03:53:25]

sphery:

but basically, all the info Myth needs is in the stream--just not in a place Myth can use it (at this point). So, you can either do the scan and then manually match things up or just use scte65scan

[03:53:46]

CNLiberal:

so i'm going to insert all

[03:53:48]

sphery:

I'm guessing the latter would be /much/ easier... So it may be worth trying to get scte65scan compiled

[03:53:57]

sphery:

yeah, insert all, then clean up the dups

[03:54:18]

sphery:

if you want to post any compile errors for scte65scan, I might be able to give you some pointers in the right direction

[03:54:33]

CNLiberal:

so now it says found 13 new conflicting SCTE channels

[03:55:02]

sphery:

yeah

[03:55:03]

CNLiberal:

should i insert manually or ignore?

[03:55:14]

sphery:

insert and clean up the dups later

[03:55:22]

CNLiberal:

manually u mean?

[03:55:31]

sphery:

you'll likely have to give each a different channel number/callsign

[03:55:35]

CNLiberal:

ok

[03:55:36]

sphery:

can make them up and edit them later

[03:55:42]

sphery:

so, yeah, manually

[03:58:51]

CNLiberal:

ok, so now i'm gonna look up the mthfill db stuff

[03:59:25]

sphery:

yeah, once scanned, you just have to identify the channels and then add the xmltvid's using the channel editor

[03:59:48]

sphery:

and it's useful to change channel numbers and channel callsigns and channel descriptions (all using the channel editor) for your own benefit

[04:00:46]

CNLiberal:

i'll check it out

[04:00:46]

sphery:

CNLiberal: note, also, that your system falls under the "doesn't provide sufficient information"

[04:01:19]

sphery:

so you can't just run mythfilldatabase and expect things to match up automatically (since we don't yet do out-of-band channel info processing--such as for SCTE65)

[04:01:39]

sphery:

so your channels don't have enough info, so you have to manually add xmltvid's

[04:01:44]

CNLiberal:

yeah i doubt it'll match up automatically

[04:02:18]

sphery:

though once you do xmltvid's, you can run mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates to have it update names/callsigns/descriptions, etc.

[04:02:42]

sphery:

then fix any stragglers manually

[04:02:50]

CNLiberal:

yay...love manual

[04:02:51]

CNLiberal:

lol

[04:09:28]

CNLiberal:

do i just change the XMLTVID or do i change the callsign, channel # and channel name too?

[04:10:14]

sphery:

either way

[04:10:30]

sphery:

I'd probably start with just the xmltvid and then try mythfilldatabase --do-channel-updates

[04:10:40]

sphery:

it should work

[04:11:21]

CNLiberal:

k

[04:11:21]

sphery:

but if it doesn't, at least you'll be able to look at the listings for the channel (i.e. in the MythWeb Listings page) to identify which is which (so you can change them all at once in the MythWeb channel editor)

[04:13:00]

CNLiberal:

this is delightful...now the freaking keyboard or remote isn't changing the channel

[04:13:13]

CNLiberal:

alt-tab isn't working either

[04:15:06]

CNLiberal:

i kill'd the FE...trying again

[04:15:08]

CNLiberal:

i love this

[04:15:10]

CNLiberal:

:-(

[04:16:26]

CNLiberal:

MOTHER F!

[04:16:34]

CNLiberal:

so i can only do one channel at a time?

[04:16:48]

CNLiberal:

before the fe stops responding

[04:17:12]

sphery:

then don't use the frontend channel editor

[04:17:23]

Tanthrix (Tanthrix!~tanthrix@c-98-246-133-36.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has quit ()

[04:17:42]

sphery:

go into LiveTV with MythWeb's channel editor open on a laptop or something and change channels and enter the info in MythWeb

[04:19:07]

BjornR1989 (BjornR1989!~inbox@d54C2B4EB.access.telenet.be) has quit (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 ))

[04:20:13]

CNLiberal:

and that's what i'm doing now

[04:20:38]

CNLiberal:

but when i try and switch from a digital SD channel to a digital HD channel, i get "Video frame buffering failed too many times"

[04:20:51]

sphery:

yeah, LiveTV has issues

[04:21:04]

sphery:

there is scte65scan... :)

[04:21:11]

CNLiberal:

now i get a "Serious error detected in Video Output"

[04:21:20]

CNLiberal:

ok sphery...i think you've convinced me

[04:21:21]

CNLiberal:

lol

[04:21:39]

CNLiberal:

i'm gonna hop onto my be...will u be around in a few minutes?

[04:21:53]

Gremlin484 (Gremlin484!~Gremlin48@ip68-99-5-66.om.om.cox.net) has quit (Quit: Gremlin484)

[04:22:04]

CNLiberal (CNLiberal!~joltman@c-68-54-223-205.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[04:22:42]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-92-101-159-73.vologda.ru) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:22:46]

CNLiberal (CNLiberal!~joltman@c-68-54-223-205.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:22:56]

CNLiberal:

back

[04:26:33]

CNLiberal:

so i wanna compile scte w HDHR support

[04:27:01]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.178.166) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:29:04]

CNLiberal1 (CNLiberal1!~joltman@c-68-54-223-205.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:29:22]

CNLiberal1 (CNLiberal1!~joltman@c-68-54-223-205.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[04:29:31]

mag0o:

well, i still got the error with mytharchive...same point in the script

[04:29:42]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-92-101-159-73.vologda.ru) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[04:30:33]

wagnerrp:

mag0o: that error was due to some unexpected structure in the encoding profile xml

[04:30:36]

CNLiberal:

when scte tells me to get libhdhomerun_20090415.tgz do i need that exact one, or can i use the latest libhdhr?

[04:30:41]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@cpe-70-112-205-173.austin.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[04:41:00]

mag0o:

so, something to do with the SP profile, for example?

[04:41:50]

CNLiberal:

ok, so when i run the make -f Makefile.hdhr, i get bunches of errors...I have a folder called libhdhomerun at the root of the scte fodler

[04:41:55]

CNLiberal:

what am I doing wrong?

[04:43:12]

wagnerrp:

mag0o: basically, its looking for a 'coverfile' node, and finding none

[04:43:22]

wagnerrp:

could you pastebin a copy of the profile?

[04:44:48]

mag0o:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1794282 from mythtv/mytharchive/ffmpeg_dvd_ntsc.xml

[04:45:04]

wagnerrp:

mag0o: it may also be due to you not being the owner of /tmp/mytharchive

[04:45:30]

mag0o:

now, i'm not the owner, but it is 777. i'll chown it and try again

[04:45:51]

wagnerrp:

well its trying to chmod, which it cant do unless youre the owner

[04:45:56]

wagnerrp:

although if you have full permissions

[04:46:02]

wagnerrp:

i dont see what that would result in further problems

[04:46:14]

wagnerrp:

anyway, its at least worth checking

[04:47:23]

mag0o:

i was able to run the chmod it was doing, as my normal user

[04:47:33]

mag0o:

outside of the script

[04:48:44]

CNLiberal:

this is what i get when i try to compile scte65scan w HDHR support

[04:48:45]

CNLiberal:

http://pastebin.ca/1794284

[04:49:12]

wagnerrp:

linker errors

[04:49:25]

wagnerrp:

youre trying to link against a different version than you have compiled for

[04:49:32]

CNLiberal:

i see...

[04:49:39]

wagnerrp:

the library does not match the header

[04:49:40]

CNLiberal:

i recompiled hdhr gui tonight

[04:49:49]

CNLiberal:

i guess i'll compile the new one

[04:50:49]

CNLiberal:

when i do a sudo make install, i get (ignoring request to make install)

[04:51:11]

CNLiberal:

that's on the libhdhomerun

[04:52:24]

wagnerrp:

why not just su to root, and 'make install'

[04:53:08]

CNLiberal:

same thing happens

[04:53:08]

** wagnerrp doesnt get using sudo on a single-admin system **

[04:54:29]

CNLiberal:

libhdhomerun.so still lives at /usr/local/lib

[04:54:45]

wagnerrp:

the only reason to use sudo is if you want to delegate certain abilities to other users without giving them full admin rights

[04:54:57]

CNLiberal:

could it be because i have installed the hdhrconfig program from apt?

[04:55:03]

wagnerrp:

all other uses are an exercise in futility, and youre simply protecting the system from yourself

[04:55:37]

wagnerrp:

does scte65scan include a hdhomerun header in its source?

[04:55:38]

CNLiberal:

i took your advice and su'd to root, but the same error occurs

[04:55:43]

CNLiberal:

hmm

[04:56:03]

sphery:

did you try using the version of libhdhomerun the docs said to use?

[04:56:25]

CNLiberal:

this is the contents of Makefile.hdhr

[04:56:26]

CNLiberal:

http://pastebin.ca/1794286

[04:56:48]

CNLiberal:

sphery: I can't find the specific version the doc told me to use

[04:56:51]

CNLiberal:

google was no help

[04:56:58]

wagnerrp:

sphery: chances are halfway decent a recently updated hdhomerun wouldnt work properly with 10mo old driver libraries

[04:57:46]

wagnerrp:

i know ive run into problems updating my hdhr just one revision off that in mythtv

[04:58:53]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:59:58]

sphery:

CNLiberal: did you look at http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2009 . . . /270972.html

[05:00:05]

sphery:

( this link contains important information about compiling libhdhomerun and scte65scan for support of the Silicondust_HDHomeRun on Mythbuntu 9.10 )

[05:00:13]

CNLiberal:

yep

[05:00:15]

CNLiberal:

it's all in there

[05:00:37]

sphery:

you did the LIBOBJS += line?

[05:00:39]

CNLiberal:

however... the hdhomerun_os_posix.o isn't anywhere to be found because i can't compile libhdhomerun

[05:00:41]

CNLiberal:

it's not working

[05:00:44]

CNLiberal:

yes i did

[05:00:51]

CNLiberal:

and the ldflags line

[05:00:54]

sphery:

and LDFLAGS

[05:01:16]

wagnerrp:

did you 'make' before 'make install'?

[05:01:27]

CNLiberal:

when i attempt to compile libhdhomerun, i can make...but when i make install, it says "ignoring request to make install"

[05:01:34]

wagnerrp:

i have no idea what would cause that ignore

[05:01:39]

wagnerrp:

ive never seen anything like that

[05:01:39]

CNLiberal:

and teh make goes through fine

[05:01:52]

sphery:

can't you just run it out of the dir?

[05:01:58]

wagnerrp:

i figured that was some sort of sudo thing

[05:01:59]

sphery:

like ./scte65scan ?

[05:02:19]

sphery:

I don't think there's really any reason to install it

[05:02:50]

wagnerrp:

sphery: didnt xbox support get dropped?

[05:02:55]

CNLiberal:

http://pastebin.ca/1794294

[05:03:14]

sphery:

wagnerrp: yeah, I think so

[05:03:26]

wagnerrp:

meaning you just cant use it?

[05:03:39]

wagnerrp:

or you have to use some outside framebuffer display like with the 350?

[05:03:50]

sphery:

I think it was just the xbox specific stuff like LED's and ...

[05:04:01]

sphery:

don't know if it would still work or not without it

[05:04:15]

sphery:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/22786

[05:05:11]

sphery:

TTBOMK, there's no XBox specific stuff in Myth, now, but if you can make an XBox work like a "normal" Linux box, it may well work on it

[05:05:20]

sphery:

(well, as well as an 800MHz P3 can work)

[05:06:04]

sphery:

CNLiberal: what's output of: find /dev/dvb

[05:06:16]

wagnerrp:

s/800MHz P3/733MHz Celeron/

[05:06:24]

CNLiberal:

no such file or directory

[05:06:26]

sphery:

CNLiberal: also, might want to try ./scte65scan --help

[05:06:27]

wagnerrp:

dont oversell that thing

[05:06:36]

sphery:

wagnerrp: oops... didn't remember

[05:06:39]

wagnerrp:

its even more anemic than you lead on

[05:07:02]

sphery:

CNLiberal: I'm guessing HDHR does things differently and you just need to pass the appropriate args to scte65scan

[05:07:23]

CNLiberal:

unfortunately, there's no way i can pass in the hdhr info...it needs to be compiled in

[05:07:35]

CNLiberal:

because right now, it's wanting /dev/dvb as the input

[05:08:13]

sphery:

./scte65scan -H FFFFFFFF -f3 -V 3058 us-Cable-Standard-center-frequencies-QAM256 > vct.sql

[05:08:29]

sphery:

Here is an example that worked for an hdhomerun tuner in Santa Clara CA:

[05:09:04]

CNLiberal:

it didn't like that at all

[05:09:11]

sphery:

but basically, at this point, I'm just reading that page for you

[05:09:12]

CNLiberal:

just spit out the help file again

[05:09:18]

CNLiberal:

lol...yeah i don't get it

[05:09:25]

CNLiberal:

i'm on the hdhomerun channel

[05:09:35]

sphery:

I've never used the program--I don't even have cable--so you're as likely to figure it out as I am

[05:09:51]

sphery:

they'll probably be a lot more help than me

[05:10:08]

CNLiberal:

so what do you record from?

[05:10:13]

sphery:

or someone in here might be able to help when there are more people around

[05:10:17]

sphery:

OTA baby!

[05:10:34]

CNLiberal:

yeah, i have an outdoor antenna, but its garbage

[05:10:57]

sphery:

Only way to go... No encryption, no monthly subscription, no cable company doing everything they can to make me pay more money...

[05:11:10]

mag0o:

so, it's not the ownership of the output dir – going to change the output profile and try again

[05:11:41]

sphery:

And most importantly, I'm actually voting against cable by refusing to use it. Now I'm just trying to convince a couple hundred million of my closest friends to support me in the fight against cable...

[05:12:19]

sphery:

so far the best I've done is convert one friend and get another to get an antenna and drop his cable subscription to a lower tier.. :(

[05:13:05]

sphery:

Only 199,999,998 1/2 people to go

[05:13:45]

CNLiberal:

it's hard where i live unfortunately

[05:14:18]

sphery:

yeah, I'm very lucky

[05:14:49]

CNLiberal:

but i've done it at one time, when i lived somewhere else, and there was a noticable difference in picture quality

[05:14:58]

sphery:

all the transmitters are within 3deg of each other from my house and I live on a (very flat) sandbar, so I get good signals

[05:15:51]

CNLiberal:

well this really blows...i really dislike comcast

[05:15:59]

CNLiberal:

they're the reason i'm in all this trouble

[05:16:00]

sphery:

I could never get analog channels because I was in a "Class B" reception area, but since that doesn't exist with digital, they actually have to send out a good signal

[05:16:13]

CNLiberal:

if they hadn't switched around the channels on me, i wouldn't have had to rescan my QAM

[05:16:33]

sphery:

you'll probably have better luck finding people who can help some other time... it's just a quiet night in here

[05:16:37]

CNLiberal:

and wouldn't have lost all my analog channels, or had issues with livetv

[05:16:45]

sphery:

and starting to get on the late side for some of the US people

[05:16:53]

CNLiberal:

yeah, it's late for me...i have work at 8

[05:17:03]

CNLiberal:

i really do appreciate all your help

[05:17:08]

CNLiberal:

i'm off to bed

[05:17:10]

CNLiberal:

night all!

[05:17:14]

sphery:

well, I wasn't much help, but good luck :)

[05:18:06]

CNLiberal:

thanks

[05:18:08]

CNLiberal (CNLiberal!~joltman@c-68-54-223-205.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[05:23:00]

** wagnerrp thinks mythtv needs to start posting minimum allowed hardware **

[05:23:53]

wagnerrp:

perhaps a basic specint/linpack run for a few seconds when starting mythfrontend

[05:24:03]

wagnerrp:

if your machine fails, mythfrontend closes

[05:24:26]

mag0o:

looks like the issue has to do with the coverfile as someone mentioned earlier

[05:24:38]

mag0o:

changed ownership, encoding profiles and still get the error

[05:25:16]

wagnerrp:

well the node its looking for does not exist in the xml you posted

[05:25:26]

wagnerrp:

if that is indeed the file its reading, it will always error

[05:25:48]

mag0o:

which is the coverfile node, right?

[05:25:55]

wagnerrp:

correct

[05:26:01]

mag0o:

k

[05:26:48]

gregl (gregl!Greg@cpe-74-67-45-41.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[05:28:53]

mag0o:

it looks like mythburn.py would attempt to add the node to the xml in the working directory, but doesn't anymore (just casually looking over the script, my python-fu isn't much of anything)

[05:31:39]

wagnerrp:

dont know why it would create that file, only to read it back in

[05:32:21]

wagnerrp:

and thats a rather massive program for me to skim through it and get any understanding out of it

[05:33:30]

mag0o:

that, or it doesn't handle spaces

[05:33:33]

mag0o:

in the filename

[05:34:14]

mag0o:

no biggie, i can see what i can come up with

[05:36:20]

toeb (toeb!~tob@HSI-KBW-085-216-107-211.hsi.kabelbw.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:36:27]

mag0o:

b/c if the file has a space in it, and isn't escaped, then coverart[0] of 'Show Season 1_coverart.jpg' would be 'Show' correct?

[05:36:50]

wagnerrp:

no

[05:37:22]

wagnerrp:

its getElementsByTagName('coverfile')[0]

[05:37:40]

wagnerrp:

meaning its trying to find the 'coverfile' node in the xml file, and grab the first one

[05:37:45]

mag0o:

ah

[05:37:46]

mag0o:

i see

[05:37:53]

wagnerrp:

only there are none, its an empty list

[05:38:02]

wagnerrp:

so there is no item 0 to access

[05:39:30]

wagnerrp:

crap, my dns server shut down

[05:41:46]

wagnerrp:

it got OOM'd

[05:42:35]

wagnerrp:

time to start killing off services i support

[05:42:37]

wagnerrp:

suppose

[05:42:54]

jamesd2:

dns out of memory... its domains should be in memory and how many sites are you surfing too?

[05:43:35]

wagnerrp:

its on an embedded system with 256MB of memory and no swap

[05:45:39]

wagnerrp:

first time ive had that particular problem in a year and a half of use

[05:49:58]

wagnerrp:

i dont really need half a dozen terminals on a machine with no graphics card

[05:50:34]

nickware (nickware!~nickware@unaffiliated/nickware) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[05:50:54]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-165-106-212.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[05:58:15]

lyricnz (lyricnz!~simonrobe@CPE-124-184-117-177.lns14.cht.bigpond.net.au) has quit (Quit: lyricnz)

[05:59:13]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@kalis.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[06:01:19]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@rrcs-71-40-238-191.sw.biz.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[06:08:35]

mc_shaky (mc_shaky!~sean@cpe-69-204-170-57.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[06:13:39]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.178.166) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[06:18:37]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.178.166) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:18:41]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.178.166) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[06:18:58]

pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has quit ()

[06:28:07]

andreax (andreax!~andreaz@p57B95FF5.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[06:37:24]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[06:37:38]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:38:29]

gunni_ (gunni_!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-252-179.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:39:50]

Ago_ (Ago_!~Ago@static.124.bras.breisnet.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:41:06]

[R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[06:42:25]

gunni (gunni!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-233-217.netcologne.de) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[06:49:00]

KraMer (KraMer!~mark@2002:46f0:bab3:0:215:f2ff:fef4:4288) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")

[06:53:10]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-139-225-104.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:53:48]

mizery (mizery!~mizerydea@adsl-99-139-225-104.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:54:37]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@rrcs-71-40-238-191.sw.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:56:35]

Guest63145 (Guest63145!~chatzilla@c-76-26-129-175.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:57:56]

mizerydearia (mizerydearia!~mizerydea@adsl-99-139-225-104.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[06:58:20]

mizery (mizery!~mizerydea@adsl-99-139-225-104.dsl.applwi.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[07:02:58]

brfransen (brfransen!~brfransen@adrianDHCP-47.216-254-250.iw.net) has quit (Quit: brfransen)

[07:03:52]

Kunalagon (Kunalagon!~Kunalagon@pc3.telekom.yu) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:08:28]

j5098 (j5098!~justin@JMW5098.rh.psu.edu) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:09:44]

Guest63145 (Guest63145!~chatzilla@c-76-26-129-175.hsd1.dc.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.5.7/20091221164558])

[07:10:15]

rooaus (rooaus!~cameron@ppp118-209-123-50.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[07:12:51]

pheld (pheld!~heldal@cl-5.osl-01.no.sixxs.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:12:55]

jvs (jvs!~jvs@90.146.56.206) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:14:41]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@rrcs-71-40-238-191.sw.biz.rr.com) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[07:19:44]

j5098:

sorry if this is a stupid question, but i ran an EIT us-cable scan and it found 79 channels

[07:19:57]

j5098:

however, they're all unnamed

[07:20:19]

levander (levander!~user@c-76-105-98-10.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:20:55]

wagnerrp:

because cable broadcasters dont bother sending channel data in band

[07:21:08]

wagnerrp:

since their cableboxes access alternate out-of-band data

[07:21:58]

j5098:

should i still be able to 'watch tv' without this info?

[07:22:17]

wagnerrp:

yes, but you wont get any guide data until you manually define the xmltvid

[07:22:19]

j5098:

because i just get a 'please wait' for 5 secondsand then it goes back to the main menu

[07:22:29]

octavsly (octavsly!~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:27:29]

levander` (levander`!~user@c-76-105-98-10.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:30:10]

[Peter]:

j5098: you need to configure a proper starting channel for your card in mythtv-setup... really intuitive stuff

[07:30:42]

levander (levander!~user@c-76-105-98-10.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)

[07:32:49]

wagnerrp:

damn you microsoft.... apparently a bios update is enough to trigger a reactivation

[07:33:48]

hpeter (hpeter!~hpeter@84-72-18-197.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:35:06]

j5098:

[Peter], i set a start channel, but i still get the same results

[07:35:28]

kormoc:

anyone else getting millions of QWaitCondition: cannot wait on recursive mutexes per second in their logs?

[07:36:05]

[Peter]:

j5098: then I don't know, sorry

[07:36:45]

j5098:

[Peter], no worries, thanks for trying

[07:41:01]

deaman (deaman!~dean@3.79-160-162.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:41:17]

deaman (deaman!~dean@3.79-160-162.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[07:46:01]

hpeter (hpeter!~hpeter@84-72-18-197.dclient.hispeed.ch) has quit (Quit: hpeter)

[07:47:03]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@ppp118-209-197-111.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:50:48]

j5098 (j5098!~justin@JMW5098.rh.psu.edu) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[07:54:12]

jya (jya!~avenardj@gw2.hydrix.com) has quit (Quit: jya)

[08:01:16]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[08:01:54]

foxbuntu (foxbuntu!~foxbuntu@ubuntu/member/foxbuntu) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[08:05:29]

Slim-Kimbo (Slim-Kimbo!~Kimbo@host81-157-1-211.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) has quit (Quit: Slim-Kimbo)

[08:07:12]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[08:07:28]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:07:57]

hpeter (hpeter!~hpeter@250-203.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:09:18]

foxbuntu (foxbuntu!~foxbuntu@173-29-149-105.client.mchsi.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:09:28]

foxbuntu (foxbuntu!~foxbuntu@173-29-149-105.client.mchsi.com) has quit (Changing host)

[08:09:28]

foxbuntu (foxbuntu!~foxbuntu@ubuntu/member/foxbuntu) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:13:20]

flexy (flexy!~flexy@82-128-205-235-Korvensuora-TR1.suomi.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:17:07]

czth__ (czth__!~dbrobins@nat/microsoft/x-wbkbqbbruuwtdsmg) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:20:01]

czth_ (czth_!~dbrobins@nat/microsoft/x-cuyscmfdrtmvdgyh) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[08:32:01]

justinh (justinh!~justin@cpc1-salf4-0-0-cust69.manc.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:34:54]

cdpuk (cdpuk!~chris@cdpuk.cdp.me.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:37:53]

sender (sender!~Miranda@cpe-66-27-69-52.san.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org)

[08:40:37]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@ip503c5f35.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:43:15]

hachi:

somehow my TV knows that channels are tuned to a certain number

[08:43:34]

hachi:

but mythtv always calls them things like 128#1

[08:52:09]

fclausen (fclausen!~fclausen@213.244.186.121) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:00:13]

justinh:

for great justice!

[09:03:14]

Tanthrix (Tanthrix!~tanthrix@c-98-246-133-36.hsd1.or.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:03:50]

wagnerrp:

your TV? or your cable box?

[09:12:39]

zkab (zkab!~zkab@1-1-5-27a.hud.sth.bostream.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:13:44]

zkab:

what is the best evocamd client for mythtv-0.22

[09:14:51]

wagnerrp:

evocamd?

[09:15:11]

wagnerrp:

sounds like a softcam

[09:15:17]

** wagnerrp points toward the channel rules **

[09:18:05]

gbee_ (gbee_!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust213.leic.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:18:05]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v gbee_

[09:18:42]

stuartm (stuartm!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust213.leic.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[09:22:13]

tomimo (tomimo!~kurre@xdsl-83-150-88-111.nebulazone.fi) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[09:22:59]

wagnerrp_ (wagnerrp_!~wagnerrp_@NR-FT1-66-42-240-31.fuse.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:22:59]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v wagnerrp_

[09:23:46]

wagnerrp (wagnerrp!~wagnerrp_@NR-FT1-66-42-240-31.fuse.net) has quit (Disconnected by services)

[09:23:50]

wagnerrp_ is now known as wagnerrp

[09:24:23]

zkab:

yes – very much

[09:24:40]

justinh:

zkab: time to change the subject now before you get into trouble

[09:25:24]

** Tanthrix likes his cams nice and hard **

[09:25:30]

zkab:

sorry – i didn't that i broke the rules ... won't happen again

[09:25:57]

wagnerrp:

not a problem, just dont be a repeat offender

[09:26:12]

justinh:

time to go back to looking under rocks for help on that score :D

[09:27:01]

zkab:

OK – my questions in the future will be white as falling snow

[09:28:01]

kurre (kurre!~tomimo@xdsl-83-150-88-111.nebulazone.fi) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[09:28:18]

rmckee (rmckee!~rmckee@202.164.204.91.static.rev.aanet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:28:54]

zkab:

BTW – I am still struggling with the 'can't play music in Terra' – problem ... any ideas

[09:34:33]

justinh:

zkab: at least 2 people have already told you what's wrong

[09:34:45]

justinh:

something vital is missing from the terra theme at the revision you checked out

[09:36:28]

justinh:

oh no wait a sec

[09:36:34]

justinh:

terra hasn't themed mythmusic

[09:36:51]

wagnerrp:

shouldnt that just fall through to the basic?

[09:36:56]

justinh:

so the problem is likely that the plugin's default xml file is wrong or didn't install properly

[09:37:45]

justinh:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . music-ui.xml shows that only the miniplayer has been themed in Terra

[09:38:18]

justinh:

for everything else mythmusic should fall back to the default/music-ui.xml or default-wide/music-ui.xml file

[09:38:37]

justinh:

technically it should rely on default-wide/music-ui.xml

[09:39:35]

justinh:

zkab: check you used the right prefix when you configured mythplugins, and that you don't have a /usr/local/share/mythtv as well as a /usr/share/mythtv

[09:39:54]

justinh:

having both could cause problems IMHO

[09:40:59]

cdpuk (cdpuk!~chris@cdpuk.cdp.me.uk) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[09:41:22]

cdpuk (cdpuk!~chris@cdpuk.cdp.me.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:46:09]

hashbang (hashbang!~hashbang@cse-ajb.cse.bris.ac.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:46:22]

zkab:

prefix=/usr/local and have only /usr/local/share/mythtv and svn up gives revision 23541 ... so I guess I have done right

[09:48:35]

justinh:

try deleting or renaming /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/Terra/music-ui.xml & see if that helps

[09:49:07]

justinh:

if it doesn't then the problem is definitely the default-wide/music-ui.xml file

[09:49:42]

justinh:

I'd be surprised if this is any kind of bug though.. you can't have been the 1st person to try mythmusic with Terra

[09:50:44]

Daviey (Daviey!~Daviey@ubuntu/member/pdpc.gold.Daviey) has quit (Quit: Changing server)

[09:51:46]

Daviey (Daviey!~Daviey@ubuntu/member/pdpc.gold.Daviey) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:52:22]

zkab:

renaming didn't help ... is there away to see what is wrong in my installation

[09:53:03]

justinh:

like I keep saying the problem is likely default-wide/music-ui.xml – either that or you somehow have a newer mythmusic than you should have

[09:55:05]

dan4dm (dan4dm!~dan@138.37.34.34) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:55:18]

justinh:

zkab: out of curiosity what res are you running at?

[09:55:25]

dan4dm (dan4dm!~dan@138.37.34.34) has left #mythtv-users ()

[09:56:00]

justinh:

course a lot of this questioning could have been avoided in the 1st place if you'd bothered to show us actual mythfrontend output

[09:56:03]

zkab:

debian/sid

[09:56:11]

justinh:

resolution not distro

[09:56:18]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[09:56:38]

justinh:

pastebin the whole of mythfrontend output from when you start it to when it fails to load mythmusic when using Terra

[09:57:02]

justinh:

it should say which file it's looking at & precisely which area definition it can't find

[09:57:12]

zkab:

1680 x 1050

[09:58:01]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:58:17]

lyricnz (lyricnz!~simonrobe@ppp118-209-107-16.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:59:38]

zkab:

OK – i'll pastebin ... my problem is also that i am new to mythtv and don't always know what to ask ... hopefully i will get more knowledge ... meanwhile please have patience with my stupid questions

[09:59:48]

justinh:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . music-ui.xml looks okay to me. The error you mentioned yesterday would indicate a problem between lines 27 & 27

[09:59:55]

justinh:

27& 37 even

[10:06:40]

hachi:

wagnerrp: not a cable box, just a TV

[10:07:03]

justinh:

bloody hell mon are they insane? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6888

[10:07:04]

hachi:

I'm tuning QAM-256 over cable

[10:07:39]

justinh:

hachi: the US is quite unique in giving channels silly numbers to indicate sub-channels etc

[10:08:06]

justinh:

it could even be that your TV is getting it wrong :)

[10:08:15]

hachi:

my tv seems to be getting it right

[10:08:21]

justinh:

how do you know?

[10:08:26]

hachi:

cause the cable company isn'g using funny numbers in their online guide

[10:08:30]

hachi:

or schedules direct

[10:08:31]

justinh:

meh

[10:08:35]

hachi:

or tvguide.com

[10:08:43]

justinh:

there's nothing to stop you editing the numbers yourself

[10:08:46]

hachi:

so all these sources map to what my TV shows

[10:08:55]

hachi:

when there are 300+ of them

[10:09:02]

hachi:

there slightly is

[10:09:16]

justinh:

providers often do non-standard stuff that mythtv has to have workaround tricks for

[10:09:25]

justinh:

bah

[10:10:02]

hachi:

inevitably 1 out of every 10 also cause mythtv to exit live tv with an error

[10:10:05]

justinh:

I'm amazed you actually get that many clear channels over cable :)

[10:10:22]

hachi:

I'm very surprised too

[10:10:31]

justinh:

it'll never last :D

[10:10:31]

hachi:

because when I did the first pass scan a year ago

[10:10:34]

hachi:

I only got like 10

[10:10:53]

hachi:

well, I will admit that I don't know if they're all working

[10:11:07]

justinh:

the provider are prolly doing something daft, and your teevee is following the same hymn sheet

[10:11:11]

hachi:

cause it takes soooo long to delete a channel so that I can skip it, or edit channels, or even change channels

[10:11:31]

hachi:

so how does mythtv even assign the channels then

[10:11:36]

justinh:

they have these things they laughingly call 'specs'

[10:11:38]

hachi:

cause I'm playing with the dvb 'scan' tool

[10:11:51]

hachi:

and it doesn't give off channels like mythtv either

[10:12:01]

hachi:

instead two byte hex channel numbers

[10:12:21]

justinh:

mythtv developers initially read these 'specs' & code accordingly.. then find to their horror that broadcasters do stuff not on paper

[10:12:38]

hachi:

that's the best part about specs

[10:12:43]

hachi:

if you don't like it, you can write your own

[10:12:47]

hachi:

sorry

[10:12:48]

hachi:

standards

[10:13:11]

justinh:

it's a mess, that's what it is

[10:13:29]

hachi:

:\

[10:14:00]

grokky_ (grokky_!~grokky@ppp118-209-203-155.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:14:07]

zkab:

justinh,wagnerrp: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1794444

[10:14:20]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@ppp118-209-197-111.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[10:14:42]

justinh:

is that it? heh

[10:17:06]

justinh:

zkab: in this case there's a problem in the area named "musictreelist"

[10:17:30]

justinh:

that'd put it between lines 162 & 200 of http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . music-ui.xml

[10:17:45]

justinh:

AFAIK there are no tickets open for that

[10:18:09]

justinh:

so check your /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/default-wide/music-ui.xml looks the same as that

[10:19:17]

justinh:

or just download http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/export/23541/branc . . . music-ui.xml & put it in place yourself :)

[10:19:27]

justinh:

see if that helps

[10:20:03]

justinh:

wait a frickin minute. Why am I even helping somebody who openly asked about stealing TV earlier?

[10:20:04]

justinh (justinh!~justin@cpc1-salf4-0-0-cust69.manc.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Quit: leaving)

[10:20:34]

jvs (jvs!~jvs@90.146.56.206) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[10:23:14]

pheld:

is there a way to suppress vdpau messages? I get about 6000 messages/minute about "non-existing SPS 32 referenced in buffering period" while watching HD.

[10:23:48]

Kunalagon (Kunalagon!~Kunalagon@pc3.telekom.yu) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[10:24:23]

Kunalagon (Kunalagon!~Kunalagon@pc3.telekom.yu) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:30:36]

pheld:

it's not all channels though. DiscoveryHD and NatGeoHD are ok, while EurosportHD and BBC-HD are not

[10:32:40]

Wicked (Wicked!~zero@unaffiliated/blazed) has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)

[10:34:43]

Wicked (Wicked!~zero@unaffiliated/blazed) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:58:14]

grokky_ (grokky_!~grokky@ppp118-209-203-155.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[11:07:00]

zkab (zkab!~zkab@1-1-5-27a.hud.sth.bostream.se) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[11:09:22]

zkab (zkab!~zkab@1-1-5-27a.hud.sth.bostream.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:09:39]

zkab (zkab!~zkab@1-1-5-27a.hud.sth.bostream.se) has quit (Client Quit)

[11:11:26]

MartinJT (MartinJT!~martin@109.170.141.132) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[11:11:47]

MartinJT (MartinJT!~martin@109.170.141.132) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:14:17]

hachi:

is there a way I can get mythtv to delete channels that a tuning error, without going back into the channel editor in mythtv-setup?

[11:14:29]

hachi:

I can edit channels with e, but I can't seem to reassign things, or whatever

[11:14:40]

hachi:

er, delete

[11:17:16]

Memphisau (Memphisau!~Memphisau@203-214-120-220.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:17:21]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[11:17:31]

Memphisau is now known as Memphis

[11:17:39]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:20:03]

gbee_ is now known as gbee

[11:21:43]

gbee:

pheld: what -v options are you using? BBC HD doesn't give me the same trouble, but it may be encoded differently on whatever sat/cable you are using

[11:22:40]

pheld:

normally just -playback on the frontend redirected to a file to keep an eye on things

[11:23:18]

pheld:

using my subscription for canal-digital nordic (thor .8w/telenor)

[11:24:50]

octavsly (octavsly!~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)

[11:25:15]

pheld:

now filtering debug output through grep to avoid stutter from the excessive logging

[11:26:26]

pheld:

there are several environment variables that can be set to control things in the vdpau libs, but I haven't found a way to turn logging off, only add more detail

[11:30:14]

hachi:

ooof, I think a lot of my channels are getting ignored by mythtv due to slow tuning

[11:32:49]

gbee:

when scanning? You can increase the timeouts

[11:33:08]

hachi:

when changing channels in 'live TV'

[11:33:27]

hachi:

I get "Error was encountered while displaying video."

[11:33:58]

hachi:

if I just try to tune the channel a few times, it eventually works... I think it's timing out because mplayer takes forever to tune and fire up a chanel too

[11:34:06]

gbee:

hmm, that shouldn't be caused by a failure to tune but a failure to find any video/audio/data

[11:34:26]

gbee:

digital or analogue?

[11:34:32]

hachi:

digital

[11:34:45]

hachi:

I think the TS stream needs to sync up or something

[11:34:53]

hachi:

mplayer always takes several seconds to spin it up

[11:35:03]

gbee:

digital should be covered by the signal monitor, although someone recently remarked that it seemed to have been broken recently

[11:35:47]

hachi:

I don't really get to use the signal monitor... it throws that error at me and exits me back to the main menu

[11:36:12]

gbee:

ok, file a bug

[11:38:55]

jduggan:

hey discovery hd coming to virgin

[11:39:05]

jduggan:

theyre slowly building their HD portfolio

[11:39:25]

jduggan:

gbee: did i mention ive now got their v+ box ;S

[11:40:15]

gbee:

traitor!

[11:40:18]

gbee:

;)

[11:40:23]

jduggan:

heh

[11:40:32]

jduggan:

for the most part it works great

[11:40:46]

jduggan:

but theres alot of features that i already miss in myth

[11:40:54]

jduggan:

(i still have myth on freesat)

[11:41:04]

jduggan:

but thats only connected to my office/bedroom

[11:41:16]

gbee:

unfortunate that the only way to get HD on cable is to also pay for their DVR, at least Sky have now recognised that the two services should be decoupled

[11:41:33]

jduggan:

yea

[11:41:36]

jduggan:

well, its a one off fee

[11:41:43]

jduggan:

so if you have HD you dont pay a monthly fee

[11:42:10]

jduggan:

you get HD when you take their XL tv package.. their XL tv package you dont need to pay the monthly fee

[11:42:16]

gbee:

Sky are no longer charging extra for HD

[11:42:25]

jduggan:

not even the install fee?

[11:42:55]

jduggan:

i think i paid 75quid

[11:43:00]

jduggan:

to upgrade the box

[11:43:03]

gbee:

not sure, but no recurring charge whatever package you go with

[11:43:35]

gbee:

and I think I read that they are providing non-DVR HD STBs, so you aren't tied to the DVR rental either

[11:44:32]

gbee:

I'd be very happy to have HD with virgin without that monthly fee or upgrading to the XL package (have no interest in the extra channels)

[11:45:55]

sybolt (sybolt!~sybolt@sybolt.xs4all.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:50:05]

mattish (mattish!~matt@mail.datatote.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:52:22]

cynicismic (cynicismic!~rclark@94-194-202-107.zone8.bethere.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:53:08]

oobe is now known as onfoeaf

[11:53:17]

onfoeaf is now known as oobe

[11:54:08]

yang (yang!~yang@freenode/sponsor/cacert.assurer.yang) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:54:13]

yang:

I am won dering, did anyone have good results with Asus U3100 DVB-T dongle under Linux/Debian ?

[12:01:28]

hachi:

how can I increase the tuning timeout?

[12:01:43]

hachi:

is it part of the gui setup... bleh... so hard to find a single thing

[12:05:21]

FR^2 (FR^2!~fr@2001:41d0:1:ed2f::cafe) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:11:55]

mattish:

can anyone suggest a pci-e card with 2 switchable composite inputs with hw encoder ?

[12:12:08]

mattish:

or without hw encoder, but it is prefered :)

[12:16:00]

itguru (itguru!~itguru@host81-137-111-121.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:17:05]

QED__ (QED__!~Billybob@CPE00e04b0b7799-CM00111a59bdac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:18:13]

Dave123 (Dave123!~dave@cpe-74-69-108-236.rochester.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[12:18:32]

itguru:

I wish to join this myth tv revolution — I got a few questions

[12:20:06]

itguru:

I've seen a number of DVB-S cards online, and they all seem to have two inputs, does this mean that they can decode two channels at once?

[12:20:36]

xris (xris!~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[12:20:50]

christ_ (christ_!~Billybob@CPE00e04b0b7799-CM00111a59bdac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)

[12:22:35]

bjd:

itguru: which cards?

[12:22:49]

bjd:

some of the ones i've seen are like lnb in and loop out

[12:23:09]

bjd:

you also need to be really careful as to what you buy as a lot of stuff isn't supported

[12:23:52]

Dave123 (Dave123!~dave@cpe-74-69-108-236.rochester.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:26:27]

dyustin (dyustin!~u_ll_neve@dslb-084-062-076-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:27:29]

octavsly (octavsly!~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:27:40]

_charly_ (_charly_!kroseneg@sunrise.schmidham.net) has quit (Quit: _charly_)

[12:28:03]

_charly_ (_charly_!kroseneg@sunrise.schmidham.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:48:07]

cynicismic (cynicismic!~rclark@94-194-202-107.zone8.bethere.co.uk) has quit (Quit: leaving)

[12:48:40]

JJ (JJ!~jjensen@jeffjensen.dsl.visi.com) has left #mythtv-users ()

[12:56:06]

inordkuo (inordkuo!~inorkuo@adsl-243-141-68.int.bellsouth.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[13:00:16]

pheld:

is subtitle-handling in the frontend being worked on in trunk? Position and size is off. Texts disappear awfully quick and many sentences are never displayed.

[13:02:17]

pheld:

itguru: most DVB-S/S2 cards only have one tuner (one LNB in connector). That means that they can only tune one multiplex/transponder at a time. Still, with the right software you can decode all channels on that particular multiplex in parallell.

[13:04:42]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@217.166.59.78) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:08:25]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@ip503c5f35.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[13:10:37]

gbee:

pheld: there have been some changes relating to positioning of DVB subtitles, but there are about 8 different types of subtitles from teletext, through closed captions to DVB and they all have to be handled differently, you need to be more specific

[13:11:25]

gbee:

DVB subitles at least are working just fine in 0.21/0.22/0.23, they are displayed for as long as it's indicated that they should

[13:11:59]

gbee:

DVB subtitles shouldn't be confused with teletext/CC subtitles included in DVB broadcasts

[13:12:25]

pheld:

gbee: position and size affects both captions and DVB subtitles. Texts disappearing quickly and/or not displayed at all only affects DVB subtitles (only HD-channels here)

[13:12:49]

tomimo (tomimo!~kurre@xdsl-83-150-88-111.nebulazone.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:13:34]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[13:13:37]

gbee:

the latter is fixed in trunk, it's caused because the original positioning calculations were based on SD resolutions, so those subtitles are displayed just off-screen ;)

[13:14:02]

[Peter]:

gbee: DVB subtitles are horribly broken in 0.22 due to http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6753

[13:14:25]

kurre (kurre!~tomimo@xdsl-83-150-88-111.nebulazone.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:14:31]

gbee:

[Peter]: in some countries, not here

[13:14:49]

pheld:

gbee: running trunk, and position/font looks like it is fixed from top-left as fixed for 720p native resolution

[13:15:21]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:15:44]

pheld:

gbee: I'm running 1920x1280

[13:15:56]

gbee:

[Peter]: but thanks for reminding me of that ticket

[13:15:58]

[Peter]:

gbee: 0.22 also has a nice bug with "hires" DVB subtitles with both a top and a bottom field, they are inversed, which makes them unreadable..

[13:15:59]

inordkuo (inordkuo!~inorkuo@97.66.21.169) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:16:17]

[Peter]:

gbee: I have a patch for that though :)

[13:17:22]

gbee:

pheld: submit a ticket, but I'm wondering whether those are DVB subtitles and not something else, subtitles on 1080i channels are fine here

[13:18:26]

gbee:

pheld: include a screenshot in the ticket

[13:19:12]

levander` (levander`!~user@c-76-105-98-10.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[13:19:48]

[Peter]:

gbee: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/branches/r . . . ubdec.c#L762 that's not very good when y_pos is an odd number for the top field

[13:19:54]

ThisOtherGuy:

Can anyone see this?

[13:20:22]

mchou (mchou!~quassel@c-67-160-223-78.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:20:23]

mchou (mchou!~quassel@unaffiliated/mchou) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:20:23]

mchou (mchou!~quassel@c-67-160-223-78.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Changing host)

[13:22:12]

gbee:

[Peter]: that's one for upstream ffmpeg

[13:23:24]

ThisOtherGuy (ThisOtherGuy!~a@pool-96-242-160-27.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has quit ()

[13:24:58]

[Peter]:

gbee: I haven't checked if they still have that bug. but I'd guess that it makes sense to fix it in myth meanwhile?

[13:25:05]

ThisOtherGuy (ThisOtherGuy!~a@pool-96-242-160-27.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:25:28]

ThisOtherGuy:

hi all – can anyone see this?

[13:26:11]

boludiko (boludiko!~boludiko@241.108.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:26:23]

boludiko:

i have a question... i see that in mythtv 0.22 the video player is "internal", so i'm trying to change the sub font size... but i cant find the option, i read about it and i find a way to change the size but doesn't work

[13:26:25]

gbee:

[Peter]: if it's not fixed in an upstream version first we won't fix it in myth, it will only break again and again each time we resync

[13:26:33]

AndyCap:

ThisOtherGuy: no

[13:26:41]

ThisOtherGuy:

thanks Andy

[13:27:09]

AndyCap:

ThisOtherGuy: also 5 minutes ago

[13:27:35]

ThisOtherGuy:

sorry – I was having some trouble with Freenode identify – thanks though

[13:27:47]

gbee:

boludiko: TV Settings > Playback OSD > ATSC Caption Settings > Text Zoom percentage

[13:29:24]

ThisOtherGuy:

Does anyone know how I can solve "Please upgrade to libvdpau >= 0.2 if you would like vdpau support." on Ubuntu?

[13:29:58]

gbee:

threats of violence against the Ubuntu packagers

[13:30:12]

boludiko:

gbee: it works on Live TV, but i want the sub size on my videos

[13:30:26]

mrand (mrand!~mrand@cpe-76-184-144-105.tx.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[13:30:49]

gbee:

will work in both places ...

[13:30:57]

ThisOtherGuy:

gbee: egad!

[13:31:49]

ThisOtherGuy:

any other options?

[13:32:48]

gbee:

upgrade to a newer version of Ubuntu? Or grab newer nvidia packages at least

[13:33:18]

boludiko:

ThisOtherGuy: what version of nvidia driver do you have?

[13:33:32]

boludiko:

gbee: what do you think?

[13:33:33]

mchou (mchou!~quassel@unaffiliated/mchou) has quit (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)

[13:33:34]

mchou_ (mchou_!~quassel@unaffiliated/mchou) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:34:46]

ThisOtherGuy:

boludiko: nvidia-180-libvdpau-dev

[13:35:00]

Metoer (Metoer!metoer@77.68.145.151) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)

[13:35:02]

tomimo (tomimo!~kurre@xdsl-83-150-88-111.nebulazone.fi) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[13:35:02]

kc (kc!~Casper@unaffiliated/kc) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[13:35:02]

RobertLaptop (RobertLaptop!~RobertLap@pool-173-64-93-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[13:35:13]

boludiko:

ThisOtherGuy; update to 185 or 190

[13:35:22]

ThisOtherGuy:

thanks

[13:36:33]

RobertLaptop (RobertLaptop!~RobertLap@pool-173-64-93-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:36:43]

tomimo (tomimo!~kurre@xdsl-83-150-88-111.nebulazone.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:36:58]

kc (kc!~Casper@unaffiliated/kc) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:37:12]

gbee (gbee!~gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust213.leic.cable.ntl.com) has left #mythtv-users ("Gone")

[13:40:35]

Zdeno (Zdeno!~michal.pr@21.238.broadband9.iol.cz) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:40:51]

ThisOtherGuy:

I upgraded to 185 and I still get the message and I don't see a package for 190 – do I have to get it from somewhere special?

[13:41:20]

boludiko:

but are you using 185?

[13:41:36]

ThisOtherGuy:

what do you mean?

[13:41:43]

Zdeno:

hello can i ask you is there any chance to enable subtitles automatickly when i use mythvideo? does mythtv use mplayer?

[13:42:00]

mchou_:

god

[13:42:16]

mchou_:

why do people always think mythtv uses mplayer?

[13:42:22]

boludiko:

ThisOtherGuy restart

[13:42:49]

ThisOtherGuy:

k

[13:42:53]

ThisOtherGuy:

thanks again

[13:44:46]

Metoer (Metoer!metoer@77.68.145.151) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:49:16]

Shadow__X (Shadow__X!~jose@c-76-99-93-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)

[13:49:54]

Zdeno:

so what player mythtv uses? and how i can enable subtitles what are attached in external file like srt, sub etc..

[13:50:08]

Zdeno:

the file name of subtitles is same as movie file

[13:50:55]

Shadow__X (Shadow__X!~jose@c-76-99-93-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:55:30]

boludiko (boludiko!~boludiko@241.108.217.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) has quit (Quit: boludiko)

[13:55:42]

mchou_:

Zdeno: myth will automatically load srt files if they have same basename as video

[13:56:06]

mchou_:

possibly other formats too

[13:56:57]

mchou_:

in the same directory

[13:57:23]

Zdeno:

possibly? i tried mkv+srt, mkv+sub and nothing happend... when i pressed T – no subtitles...

[13:57:44]

Zdeno:

ofc same directory.. same name

[13:58:04]

Zdeno:

everything is fine in mplayer

[13:58:27]

Zdeno:

and version of mythtv – media-tv/mythtv-0.22_p23069

[14:02:13]

ThisOtherGuy:

boludiko: 185 didn't seem to work, but I installed the nvidia repo following the instructions here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-nvidia-grap . . . idhardy.html and was able to install libvdpau

[14:04:43]

stoth (stoth!~stoth@ool-18bfe0d5.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Quit: stoth)

[14:12:30]

mag0o:

wagnerrp: this http://pastebin.com/m45b47789 allowed me to create a dvd archive, basically i checked to see if the element != 0 before using it

[14:17:23]

xris (xris!~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:18:42]

mag0o:

i didn't set any sensible defaults, just checking to see if it would work

[14:25:06]

rgd (rgd!~rgd@81.144.136.164) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:55:25]

steadyeddie (steadyeddie!~michael@c-98-209-86-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:58:05]

FR^2 (FR^2!~fr@2001:41d0:1:ed2f::cafe) has quit (Quit: und weg...)

[15:03:57]

Kunalagon (Kunalagon!~Kunalagon@pc3.telekom.yu) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[15:07:42]

schaze (schaze!~schaze@dslb-088-068-040-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:09:22]

schaze (schaze!~schaze@dslb-088-068-040-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[15:11:28]

schaze (schaze!~schaze@dslb-088-068-040-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:13:18]

schaze:

Hi all, I am struggling to find out the correct way to schedule a recording with the python API for mythtv (ver 0.22). Anyone has any experience with that?

[15:14:28]

schaze:

from what I can see in wireshark I have to add a new entry in the record table with mysql and then send a RESCHEDULE_RECORDINGS with the recordid of the new row.

[15:17:05]

hpeter (hpeter!~hpeter@250-203.5-85.cust.bluewin.ch) has quit (Quit: hpeter)

[15:26:22]

streeter (streeter!~streeter@nat/redhat/x-trciwadzvghwcvsc) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:28:07]

steadyeddie (steadyeddie!~michael@c-98-209-86-159.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)

[15:31:45]

brfransen (brfransen!~brfransen@adrianDHCP-47.216-254-250.iw.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:33:04]

devinheitmueller (devinheitmueller!~dheitmuel@208.51.239.218) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:41:08]

jY (jY!jy@photoblog.com) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")

[15:44:32]

superdump (superdump!~rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2-dev)

[15:46:29]

octavsly (octavsly!~octavsly@static.ip-80-255-245-177.signet.nl) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[15:48:43]

cattelan_away is now known as cattelan

[15:49:15]

Ago_ (Ago_!~Ago@static.124.bras.breisnet.com) has quit (Quit: Verlassend)

[15:52:34]

andreax (andreax!~andreaz@p57B97A54.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:13:50]

RDV_Linux:

schaze: Are you using the 0.22+fixes python bindings or trunk? I suspect this would be fairly easy with the trunk bindings as they are a significant re-write and much more comprehensive. wagnerrp is the expert on the python bindings.

[16:14:26]

jduggan (jduggan!~thom@s.tankengine.co.uk) has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)

[16:15:59]

schaze:

RDV_Linux: I am using 0.22 bindings. wagnerrp just told me about the new trunk bindings in the mythtv channel yes. But thanks also for the hint.

[16:17:02]

RDV_Linux:

schaze: I just saw your posts;)

[16:17:52]

schaze:

:)

[16:18:00]

jduggan (jduggan!~thom@s.tankengine.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:20:56]

fclausen (fclausen!~fclausen@213.244.186.121) has left #mythtv-users ()

[16:23:00]

jduggan_ (jduggan_!~thom@s.tankengine.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:23:48]

jduggan_ (jduggan_!~thom@s.tankengine.co.uk) has quit (Client Quit)

[16:24:23]

RDV_Linux (RDV_Linux!~doug@CPE001195554bb4-CM00111a59bd9e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[16:24:37]

kormoc (kormoc!~kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has quit (Quit: kormoc)

[16:38:51]

MavT (MavT!~MaverickT@217.166.59.78) has quit (Read error: No route to host)

[16:39:42]

J-e-f-f-A:

The stupid update broke the menus... I spent 2–1/2 hours re-creating them from scratch...

[16:39:55]

J-e-f-f-A:

(oops, wrong channel!)

[16:40:55]

** J-e-f-f-A was referring to a Joomla update, not MythTV... ;-) sorry guys... **

[16:46:40]

sphery:

heh, so MythTV isn't the only FOSS program that people complain about? :)

[16:46:52]

pizzledizzle (pizzledizzle!~pizdets@pool-98-116-202-61.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:47:02]

J-e-f-f-A:

sphery: Hehehe... ;-) I guess not. ;-)

[16:48:14]

J-e-f-f-A:

sphery: I guess it was my own fault, starting an upgrade at 11pm – I didn't get it fixed and to bed until about 2:30am... :-(

[16:49:13]

RDV_Linux (RDV_Linux!~doug@CPE001195554bb4-CM00111a59bd9e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:49:36]

rgd (rgd!~rgd@81.144.136.164) has quit (Quit: When two people dream the same dream, it ceases to be an illusion. KVIrc 3.4.2 Shiny http://www.kvirc.net)

[16:50:56]

abqjp (abqjp!~abqjp@97-119-165-158.albq.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:53:37]

sphery:

J-e-f-f-A: as long as we're complaining about FOSS projects, am I the only one having issues with Firefox corrupting the places.sqlite file with Firefox 3.5.x (Shiretoko) and 3.6.x (Namoroka)?

[16:54:06]

** sphery spends way too much time at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks_not_saved **

[16:54:32]

sphery:

I should really bookmark that page when my places.sqlite isn't corrupt--since when corrupt, it doesn't get into history

[16:54:41]

J-e-f-f-A:

sphery: hehe... I dunno... ;-) I haven't noticed that.

[16:55:07]

sphery:

I generally notice it when my location bar searches don't show places I've just been to

[16:56:35]

christ_ (christ_!~Billybob@CPE00e04b0b7799-CM00111a59bdac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:56:54]

QED__ (QED__!~Billybob@CPE00e04b0b7799-CM00111a59bdac.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[16:59:23]

AndyCap:

sphery: does your firefox profile live on a disreputable filesystem? :P

[17:00:33]

AndyCap:

bookmarks.html sounds like a much better idea now. :P http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks_history_a . . . ng_-_Firefox

[17:00:41]

sphery:

it's ext3, so I don't know how that qualifies

[17:01:13]

wagnerrp:

disreputable?

[17:02:02]

hashbang (hashbang!~hashbang@cse-ajb.cse.bris.ac.uk) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[17:02:12]

wagnerrp:

sphery: you see we might have another candidate for a perl rewrite?

[17:02:13]

** AndyCap was thinking nfs or something. **

[17:02:14]

sphery:

AndyCap: this time it was actually the "Places preferences" at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bookmarks_not_saved , which probably got changed when I last deleted places.sqlite and places.sqlite-journal, so it auto-imported the HTML bookmark backup

[17:02:35]

sphery:

wagnerrp: who's that?

[17:03:20]

RDV_Linux:

wagnerrp: Do you know if the nVidia driver version v190.53 is ok to use, A while ago I had heard there were Myth issues with that driver. I am still using v190.42.

[17:03:27]

wagnerrp:

checking, i saw it on the list a day or two ago

[17:03:49]

sphery:

cool

[17:03:53]

wagnerrp:

RDV_Linux: i believe ive been using that since my last system update a week or two ago

[17:03:56]

sphery:

I'd love to see it happen

[17:04:10]

leprechau (leprechau!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:04:14]

AndyCap:

wonder if the older profiles caused as much pain as hiding a database in a consumer app does.

[17:04:41]

wagnerrp:

sphery: something about adding routines for processing 'avi' files

[17:04:46]

AndyCap:

since people still expect it to behave like the same old thing they always used.

[17:06:41]

sphery:

AndyCap: I will admit that I had become a master manipulator of Firefox profiles before the sqlite DB switchover. Now I have much to learn. (I like to create a "cookie jar" with cookies to always have so I can clear out the garbage and start fresh with the stuff I want, but it's much harder to do with the sqlite DB.)

[17:06:43]

wagnerrp:

now i cant remember where i saw it

[17:07:01]

sphery:

at least the 3.6 upgrade made the location search /much/ less resource intensive

[17:07:02]

wagnerrp:

eew.... java

[17:07:19]

AndyCap:

java?

[17:07:28]

sphery:

bad cup of coffee?

[17:07:28]

gregl (gregl!~greg@cpe-69-204-183-188.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:07:35]

wagnerrp:

cookie.jar....

[17:07:47]

sphery:

heh

[17:08:00]

schaze (schaze!~schaze@dslb-088-068-040-188.pools.arcor-ip.net) has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)

[17:08:04]

AndyCap:

oh. haha

[17:08:14]

wagnerrp:

alternatively... sphery stole the cookie from the cookie jar!

[17:08:15]

** J-e-f-f-A smiles as he thinks about a Dunkin Donuts Coffee... ;-) **

[17:08:23]

wagnerrp:

http://bash.org?8102

[17:08:23]

** sphery goes to look to see if someone has written a cookie jar add on for firefox **

[17:08:32]

AndyCap:

cought with his hand in the cookie.jar

[17:09:04]

RDV_Linux:

wagnerrp: thanks for the info.

[17:09:05]

AndyCap:

argh, english fail.

[17:09:41]

wagnerrp:

dont blame me if something like VDPAU isnt working

[17:09:53]

wagnerrp:

i havent been using it for a while

[17:10:19]

RDV_Linux:

wagnerrp: I will keep the old driver around for a while;)

[17:10:44]

AndyCap:

which reminds me, time to go home and see if my cable company has switched the public channel to hd or if they decided to be ***** about it.

[17:12:10]

J-e-f-f-A:

AndyCap: there's a different name for the 'pubic' channel here... Oh, wait, you said "public" – my bad. ;-)

[17:12:30]

wagnerrp:

sphery: here we go.... http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/423133

[17:12:31]

AndyCap:

O_o

[17:12:52]

wagnerrp:

J-e-f-f-A: i dont get those channels around here

[17:15:46]

sphery:

wagnerrp: btw, record.hostname? I don't have it in my 1214 DB, and don't see an upgrade that adds it. Are you sure about it?

[17:15:51]

** J-e-f-f-A doesn't have Cable, so he hasn't had "Public Access" channels in 10+ years. (For some reason they don't carry them on Sattelite) **

[17:16:10]

sphery:

wagnerrp: sure you didn't look at recorded or something?

[17:17:31]

wagnerrp:

oops, seems i did

[17:17:35]

sphery:

:)

[17:17:52]

sphery:

good--I'd hate to find that we had some issue which broke the schema :)

[17:18:26]

sphery:

it's an easy typo to make, though

[17:18:50]

wagnerrp:

actually, it was in the bindings

[17:19:10]

wagnerrp:

i had some variable i thought was full of Record objects, but apparently i had overwritten it with a bunch of Recorded objects

[17:19:33]

wagnerrp:

oof... im going to have to split up starttime/endtime

[17:20:52]

npm (npm!~npm@cpe-76-170-208-244.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[17:25:17]

npm (npm!~npm@cpe-76-170-208-244.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:26:18]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[17:27:53]

bobgill (bobgill!~smileyfac@CPE0016b6062e69-CM0011e6c40b1f.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:39:38]

mag0o:

wagnerrp: you see how i circumvented the issues with mytharchive?

[17:39:47]

mag0o:

or corrected

[17:43:16]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: how are you creating the lossless edited mkv files?

[17:46:24]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I force my STB to only output at 720p, edit with a compiled version of Avidemux output to avi and use ffmpeg to convert the avi to a mkv container, ffmpeg restores the seek table, This process is wrapped in nautilus script and works very well.

[17:46:52]

elmojo:

cool.. good approach

[17:47:01]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@129.62.151.109) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:47:09]

elmojo:

so you use software or vdpau decoding?

[17:47:14]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I need a compiled version of Avidemux due to the Ubuntu package not having some audio dependencies.

[17:48:35]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I had used mplayer with and without VDPAU as my CPU is overclocked to 3.6MHz so it did not matter. Right now I am using the Internal player and VDPAU.

[17:48:54]

mag0o:

man! 3.6MHz? *SWEET*

[17:48:57]

mag0o:

:)

[17:49:00]

J-e-f-f-A:

3.6MHz... wow!

[17:49:08]

J-e-f-f-A:

mag0o: ya beat me... ;-)

[17:49:27]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: previous to the ffmpeg sync what problem(s) were you having?

[17:49:35]

mag0o:

lurker extraordinaire

[17:50:25]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I actually had 3.7MHz 24Hr mprime stable but pulled back for so the system would last longer.

[17:51:24]

J-e-f-f-A:

RDV_Linux: We think you meant GHz, no? ;-)

[17:51:25]

RDV_Linux:

The CPU is a Intel Q9145 Quad core

[17:51:51]

RDV_Linux:

Yes, my bad;(

[17:52:16]

J-e-f-f-A:

Otherwise you seriiously UNDERclocked your CPU. ;-) hehehe

[17:52:26]

RDV_Linux:

J-e-f-f-A: That slip just reveals how old I am;)

[17:52:49]

J-e-f-f-A:

RDV_Linux: Me noticing it reveals how old *I* am... ;-)

[17:54:03]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: were you aware that Avidemux can output mkv? did that not work for you?

[17:54:35]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: Previous issues with the Internal player was severe stutter on my lossless edited mkv files (VDPAU or not) and no seek forward/back at all. Almost hung every time,

[17:55:15]

jolaren (jolaren!~jolaren@c-61f2e555.015-160-73746f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:55:21]

jolaren:

what port does the mythfrontend run on?

[17:55:37]

J-e-f-f-A:

jolaren: ?

[17:55:47]

jolaren:

hm

[17:56:10]

jolaren:

dont know how to elaborate

[17:56:40]

J-e-f-f-A:

jolaren: for the telnet interface?

[17:57:00]

jolaren:

nvm

[17:57:05]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I actually worked with the Advidemux developer Gunter to get the lossless edits to work well over a year ago. I am still using Avidemux v2.4.xx whise mkv output did not work, maybe 2.5 works now.

[17:57:26]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: thanks, trying to keep up with what effects the sync is having and why

[17:57:30]

RDV_Linux:

s/whise/whose/

[17:58:31]

wagnerrp:

mag0o: didnt actually look at it, but i assume you just checked to see if the nodes existed first

[17:58:35]

J-e-f-f-A:

jolaren: The frontend connects to the backend, so the only port the frontend would be listening on is the tenet port.

[17:58:42]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: makes sense I was using 2.5.2 and it is supported in that version

[17:58:57]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-92-101-142-183.vologda.ru) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:59:30]

mattish (mattish!~matt@mail.datatote.co.uk) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[18:00:15]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: np. There is something strange with the trunk internal player. A straight HDPVR mpg recording does not seem to trigger the picture adjustments (e.g brightness). I have to manually use the menu and make an adjustment forward/back for it to trigger. A bit annoying.

[18:01:09]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: does the mkv not have this problem?

[18:01:20]

mag0o:

yes wagnerrp, just checked the length of the node, and didn't do anything for defaults if it didn't exist

[18:01:34]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I will try to compile the Avidemux 2.5 today as I have some time. I tried the Ubuntu 2.5 package a long while ago and it did not work at that time.

[18:01:41]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: and is it VDPAU specific?

[18:01:57]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@129.62.151.109) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[18:02:10]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.178.166) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:02:21]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I need to verify which works and which do not, that is why I had not mentioned it up to now.

[18:02:41]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: I never tried muxing h264 into mkv with Avidemux

[18:03:27]

Zdeno (Zdeno!~michal.pr@21.238.broadband9.iol.cz) has quit ()

[18:03:28]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I will do those tests with and without VDPAU and mpg vs mkv and report back the results.

[18:04:18]

fleers:

should using HDPVR and VDPAU be fairly stable now in mythtv for 1080 content?

[18:04:33]

natanojl (natanojl!~jonatan@c83-252-238-84.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:04:44]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris

[18:05:20]

** J-e-f-f-A goes back to sleep... **

[18:05:22]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: FYI Avidemux 2.4.xx did output mkv format but the resulting file was useless.

[18:06:10]

fleers:

i ask b/c the majority of my recordings fail to replay … i see 'default settings' then hear some audio with a blue screen, then back to the menu with 'failed to initialize A/V sync'

[18:07:08]

RDV_Linux:

fleers: Sorry I have no input as I only record at 720p

[18:07:58]

fleers:

720p seems perfectly fine for me as well

[18:09:46]

fleers:

i'd like to troubleshoot this further, can the internal player be launched from a shell prompt to get more detailed info?

[18:10:16]

J-e-f-f-A:

jolaren: perhaps this is what you're looking for? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1102528 <-- re 2nd post, the ports that the backend server is listening on.

[18:10:21]

fleers:

or should I see if the results are the same using mplayer ...

[18:10:28]

jolaren:

thank you J-e-f-f-A

[18:11:12]

yang:

I wonder how the myth tv package is being called in debian

[18:11:46]

wagnerrp:

how?

[18:13:38]

jolaren:

yang; try "apt-cache search myth"

[18:14:02]

jolaren:

i dont have any debian system near so i dont know

[18:14:55]

yang:

jolaren: ok, I need to use debian-multimedia sources

[18:15:33]

janneg:

RDV_Linux: do you have a script that creates avidemux project files/ command line arguments?

[18:15:34]

** wagnerrp would point schaze at 23542 if he had bothered to stick around **

[18:16:31]

jolaren:

yang; probarbly

[18:17:50]

cityOfLights (cityOfLights!~cityOfLig@bzq-84-109-125-247.red.bezeqint.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:17:53]

cityOfLights:

hi all

[18:18:04]

cityOfLights:

I got this issue

[18:18:47]

cityOfLights:

when I change the tv card from the input tv ->composite1 , it forgets the value and goes back to tv

[18:19:15]

cityOfLights:

I am using 0.22_p23069

[18:21:31]

iamlindoro:

"forgets" how? It's not supposed to "remember" it

[18:22:03]

cityOfLights:

I chnaged the value in muthtv-setup

[18:22:17]

cityOfLights:

valuse should be kept in mysql – right?

[18:22:28]

iamlindoro:

Configuration or DB error

[18:23:27]

cityOfLights:

what query will show me the value in mysql?

[18:23:43]

cityOfLights:

I dont know which table holds these values

[18:25:11]

GlemSom (GlemSom!~glemsom@0x5da34bca.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:25:53]

cityOfLights:

also when I choose play live tv in the front end , pressing C doent change inputs

[18:26:13]

cityOfLights:

I do see the tv using tvtime from the composite1

[18:27:29]

RDV_Linux:

janneg: I edit manually. A while ago I tried a patch iamlindoro made that generated an Avidemux project file from a MythTV cut list. The issues is that if the cutlist is off Avidemux does not allow manual adjustments. I found it was simply easier to edit manually,

[18:28:30]

janneg:

RDV_Linux: ok

[18:29:52]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I tested the picture adjustment issue I mentioned earlier and it happens with both my lossless mkv file an unaltered HDPVR mpg files, but ONLY with VDPAU. Things work normally without VDPAU.

[18:30:20]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: ok, that should help

[18:30:47]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: did it ever work previously?

[18:31:03]

elmojo:

wondering if it's a regression from the latest VDPAU changes

[18:32:20]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I will do testing if you want. I do not remember as up until a few days ago Internal play stuttered too much to use,

[18:32:26]

gregl (gregl!~greg@cpe-69-204-183-188.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[18:32:58]

kormoc (kormoc!~kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:32:58]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc

[18:33:22]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: it's hard to go back far enough because of schema changes, etc

[18:33:41]

elmojo:

I think you'd probably need to go back past 23235 to know

[18:34:32]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: I only have my production box and a Virtual Box test environment so am not too flexible.

[18:35:14]

elmojo:

probably just need to debug from top or tree

[18:35:48]

elmojo:

and I'd ping markk_ since he might know rather quickly what might be happening

[18:39:27]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: One difference I notice with the Internal vs mplayer is that the Internal player send significantly lower AC3 volume then mplayer with my HDPVR recordings and yes I have MythTV volume at 100%. I get a blast when I turn on music and forget to turn things down again;)

[18:39:50]

dyustin (dyustin!~u_ll_neve@dslb-084-062-076-160.pools.arcor-ip.net) has quit (Quit: dyustin)

[18:39:56]

cityOfLights:

ok, can anyone tell me what to do next? should I report the bug?

[18:40:07]

cityOfLights:

wait for someone here?

[18:40:29]

cityOfLights:

I mean the configuration in setup is constantly lost

[18:40:59]

cityOfLights:

I am patient

[18:42:54]

iamlindoro:

cityOfLights: If you are losing setup information, you have a Database problem, not a Myth one

[18:43:09]

iamlindoro:

so please do not open a myth bug, as it will be closed as invalid

[18:43:18]

cityOfLights:

but all other info is kept fine

[18:43:24]

iamlindoro:

So?

[18:43:30]

cityOfLights:

ok

[18:43:41]

sphery:

cityOfLights: which value?

[18:43:50]

cityOfLights:

i remeber there is a dev here that gave me some mysql assistence

[18:43:54]

sphery:

chances are you're changing one that you don't need to (and shouldn't) change

[18:44:05]

cityOfLights:

HI spherY

[18:44:11]

cityOfLights:

missed u

[18:44:13]

cityOfLights:

ok

[18:44:28]

sphery:

cityOfLights: how many inputs do you actually have configured on your capture card?

[18:44:35]

cityOfLights:

in the only tv card I change the input from tv-> composite

[18:44:45]

cityOfLights:

this info is always lost

[18:44:50]

[18:45:05]

sphery:

you need to change the Input Connection, not change the capture card

[18:45:10]

cityOfLights:

where is this info kept – to determin if it is an issue in mysql

[18:45:29]

cityOfLights:

or the code that sends the change

[18:45:59]

sphery:

what value are you changing?

[18:46:11]

sphery:

if you're on the capture card page, you're changing the wrong one...

[18:46:51]

sphery:

you need to configure input connections to use the right input--/then/ you should be able to change the default input in the capture card

[18:47:06]

sphery:

you can't change the value to an invalid input (one that's not configured)

[18:48:26]

cityOfLights:

only one card in the backend

[18:48:53]

cityOfLights:

this card has three inputs according to tvtime and mythtv-setup

[18:49:05]

cityOfLights:

tv,composite1,svideo,composite3

[18:49:24]

gunni (gunni!~quassel@xdsl-84-44-134-179.netcologne.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:49:48]

cityOfLights:

pls let me see this

[18:49:57]

gregl (gregl!~greg@cpe-69-204-183-188.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:50:09]

cityOfLights:

thanks for your kindness , as allways

[18:50:38]

sphery:

cityOfLights: how many of those inputs are connected in mythtv-setup's Input Connections page?

[18:50:47]

sphery:

/that's/ where the important info is

[18:51:00]

sphery:

how many are associated with video sources?

[18:51:51]

cityOfLights:

in Capture Card Setup I change Default Input from television -> composite1

[18:52:03]

sphery:

right

[18:52:08]

sphery:

so exit capture card setup

[18:52:11]

sphery:

go to Input Connections

[18:52:15]

cityOfLights:

click finish

[18:52:18]

gunni_ (gunni_!~quassel@xdsl-81-173-252-179.netcologne.de) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[18:52:29]

sphery:

(I don't know what it's called in your translation... Sorry.)

[18:52:54]

cityOfLights:

ok ok

[18:52:56]

cityOfLights:

I see

[18:53:05]

cityOfLights:

min pls, I think I got my mistake

[18:53:13]

sphery:

it's but it should be 2 items after Capture Card setup (and one after Video Sources)

[18:53:16]

sphery:

cool..

[18:53:55]

cityOfLights:

let me test this pls

[18:54:40]

cityOfLights:

:-)

[18:54:57]

cityOfLights:

yes I love using the software your write!

[18:55:03]

cityOfLights:

it is assume

[18:55:07]

sphery:

:)

[18:56:33]

cityOfLights:

thanks again sphery, and bye for now

[18:56:41]

sphery:

enjoy

[19:04:37]

PeaceKeeper (PeaceKeeper!PeaceKeepe@12.148.112.253) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:12:45]

And4713 (And4713!~And4713@c-98-201-61-20.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: weekly reboot)

[19:13:57]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@cpe-76-93-149-51.san.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[19:16:00]

Slim-Kimbo (Slim-Kimbo!~Kimbo@host81-157-1-211.range81-157.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:17:58]

And4713 (And4713!~And4713@c-98-201-61-20.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:24:54]

PeaceKeeper (PeaceKeeper!PeaceKeepe@12.148.112.253) has quit ()

[19:34:57]

jvs (jvs!~jvs@90.146.56.206) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:43:08]

leprechau (leprechau!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[19:44:51]

xris:

anyone know if there is a contrib or built in function that will disable encrypted QAM channels?

[19:44:54]

xris:

iamlindoro: ping ^^

[19:45:43]

Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!~chris@h136.194.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:46:02]

devinheitmueller:

xris: do you mean in the channel scanner?

[19:46:14]

devinheitmueller:

Because the channel scanner already has a checkbox to skip encrypted channels.

[19:47:14]

xris:

devinheitmueller: no, I'm importing things with scte65scan

[19:47:38]

xris:

so I need something to re-scan for encryption after I already know the frequencies

[19:47:45]

devinheitmueller:

Ah, well in that case scte65scan would probably have to be responsible for not reporting the encrypted channels.

[19:47:48]

brfransen (brfransen!~brfransen@adrianDHCP-47.216-254-250.iw.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[19:47:56]

xris:

comcast recently started encrypting a bunch of their QAM stuff

[19:47:57]

devinheitmueller:

... since MythTV just imports the channels.conf with whatever it has.

[19:48:07]

brfransen (brfransen!~brfransen@adrianDHCP-47.216-254-250.iw.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:48:22]

xris:

and the scte info doesn't seem to show encryption status for channels/subchannels

[19:48:47]

devinheitmueller:

xris: hmmm, I don't know if that is actually true.

[19:49:04]

devinheitmueller:

I think scte/65 actually does have a field indicating whether the channel is encrypted.

[19:49:18]

devinheitmueller:

(but perhaps the scte65scan tool doesn't look for it)

[19:50:02]

xris:

that's likely

[19:50:13]

xris:

will have to dig through it once mfdb is done running

[19:50:23]

devinheitmueller:

It's a shame nobody has felt the urge to merge this stuff into the MythTV channel scanner proper.

[19:50:38]

** xris is annoyed because he accidentally delete all of the QAM HD broadcast channels.. including the one showing Olympics tonight **

[19:51:52]

xris:

devinheitmueller: no time. all of us devs are either working on other things, or have newborns to take care of. :)

[19:51:58]

devinheitmueller:

yup.

[19:52:00]

devinheitmueller:

I hear you.

[19:56:20]

AndyCap:

Seems they have a new HD channel on the cable company. good.

[19:56:37]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: are you using passthru?

[19:56:57]

** AndyCap was worried it would be encrypted to push their evil pvr boxes **

[19:57:53]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: Yes with both Mythtv and mplayer, just get different volumes with either. I have no idea how passthru every gets its volume changed.

[19:59:07]

wagnerrp:

xris: if comcast in your area has started encrypting those channels, chances are theyre encrypting ALL channels

[19:59:15]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: mplayer must be re-encoding and normalizing the volume would be my guess

[19:59:38]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: might want to ask jya about that when he's around

[19:59:42]

AndyCap:

btw, is there some button to show resolution/codec on the programme you're watching?

[19:59:59]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: You are most likely correct.

[20:00:17]

wagnerrp:

since those channels are completely independent of the HD rebroadcasts of the local channels, theres nothing saying they cant encrypt all of them

[20:00:57]

devinheitmueller:

xris: The VCT table does have an "access_controlled" field which I suspect is what the stce65scan tool would need to look at (see SCTE/65 Sec 5.6 Table 5.26.

[20:04:30]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@192.18.37.108) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:05:58]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: Is there a way within Myth to adjust the HDPVR volume or normalize it? I cannot ever remember seeing a control like that,

[20:06:38]

Goga777 (Goga777!~Goga777@shpd-92-101-142-183.vologda.ru) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[20:07:31]

elmojo:

RDV_Linux: I don't think so – not sure if the changes jya made to this release allows this – maybe we are getting closer to being able to support something like this as I'm sure a lot of people would like it

[20:08:41]

elmojo:

sorry for not being much help with some of this stuff but it's not something I've spent much time looking into yet

[20:08:56]

wagnerrp:

elmojo: that sounds like something better implemented through something like ReplayGain

[20:09:27]

wagnerrp:

let the commflagger set a gain, which would subsequently used during playback

[20:10:22]

wagnerrp:

perhaps ignoring the volume in predicted commercials

[20:10:48]

RDV_Linux:

elmojo: Thanks for your interest and input. Much appreciated.

[20:14:59]

xris:

devinheitmueller: nothing in the tool's code about ignoring encrypted status stuff, though... so it would need to be added.

[20:15:04]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@140.232.178.166) has quit (Quit: Leaving...)

[20:15:10]

devinheitmueller:

xris: yeah, that's what I assumed.

[20:15:42]

wagnerrp:

xris: they actually broadcast some channels in the clear and others with privacy mode?

[20:16:02]

devinheitmueller:

xris: in theory it should be only a couple of lines of code to add (to check the field in the VCT and skip if it's set), but the bigger issue is that it would need to be tested against various cable systems to address possible compatibility issues.

[20:16:52]

xris:

wagnerrp: yeah. broadcast stations are clear, and basic cable SD channels (not to mention the HD ones) are encrypted

[20:16:52]

devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: I don't think this is even about privacy mode (although that would need to be investigated as well). The tool cannot even tell between ClearQAM and CableCard encrypted channels.

[20:17:23]

wagnerrp:

i thought the in-band tables only contained channels for use with the DTAs

[20:18:03]

devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: they are targeted at DTAs (since Cablecard capable boxes have an OOB), but it wouldn't surprise me if the stce65 tables had both.

[20:18:13]

xris:

wagnerrp: most encrypted ones are available via firewire but I prefer to use my hdhr when I can because comcast has started disabling individual shows as well

[20:18:14]

devinheitmueller:

... but that could easily vary by cable system.

[20:18:24]

xris:

wagnerrp: they got permission from the FCC to encrypt stuff for the DTAs as well

[20:18:54]

xris:

wagnerrp: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/397247

[20:19:04]

wagnerrp:

xris: right, what im saying is that i had believed the IB tables only contained data for the DTAs, which would now be in privacy mode, and unusable by mythtv

[20:19:12]

wagnerrp:

but this is pure assumption on my part

[20:19:13]

xris:

so probably not 5c, but scrambled some other way

[20:19:41]

devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: I would assume that the SCTE65 tables would also need the ClearQAM channels, since the FCC waiver doesn't permit them to encrypt the must carry channels.

[20:19:43]

xris:

wagnerrp: the IB tables still contain broadcast channels which are required to be clear

[20:20:02]

devinheitmueller:

(and DTAs will still need to know where to find the must carry channels)

[20:20:08]

xris:

right

[20:20:17]

wagnerrp:

devinheitmueller: but the DTAs dont have the power to decode the local HD broadcasts, theyre using SD simulcasts

[20:20:27]

xris:

but the scte tool doesn't seem to have a way to distinguish between them so it still loads all of the private channels into mythtv

[20:20:31]

devinheitmueller:

OTOH, I would need to see a dump to know for certain.

[20:20:44]

xris:

wagnerrp: no clue on that one. the info is there for me, though

[20:21:00]

xris:

wagnerrp: and there are non-HD versions of the must-carry channels, too

[20:21:26]

devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: I don't dispute that. Doesn't mean the info definitely isn't there though.

[20:21:49]

messerting (messerting!~messertin@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:21:49]

leprechau (leprechau!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:22:17]

devinheitmueller:

I really should write a tool which will let me capture PSIP/STCE65 info so I provide a way for people to send me dumps.

[20:24:10]

xris:

doesn't scte65scan do a raw dump?

[20:24:36]

messerting (messerting!~messertin@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[20:25:05]

devinheitmueller:

xris: Does it? I don't know.

[20:26:30]

xris:

devinheitmueller: http://pastebin.ca/1794689

[20:26:33]

xris:

afk, lunchtime

[20:29:27]

leprechau (leprechau!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[20:33:09]

leprechau (leprechau!~leprechau@temp4.wavelinx.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:37:01]

purserj (purserj!~purserj@k-sit.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[20:37:36]

purserj (purserj!~purserj@k-sit.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:38:07]

MaverickTech (MaverickTech!~MaverickT@93-125-156-206.dsl.alice.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:40:44]

messerting (messerting!~messertin@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:41:23]

messerting (messerting!~messertin@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[20:48:43]

gav1n (gav1n!~chatzilla@cpc2-dals14-2-0-cust40.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:52:51]

gav1n:

I'd like to be able to set my MythTV rtc_alrm wakeup BIOS time using every 10mins or so.. so that whatever happens there'll be a relevant wakeup time set.. any ideas?

[20:55:08]

gav1n:

can I query to get the wakeup time_t and feed my wakeup script with cron?

[20:56:51]

simcop2387 (simcop2387!~simcop238@p3m/member/simcop2387) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[20:57:03]

sphery:

gav1n: or maybe just set your BIOS to wake on power resume?

[20:58:57]

gav1n:

yeah.. assuming power cut .. that's all ok. ATM I have shutdown check for user login but if I initiate a shutdown rather than a logout myth doesn't set the time, I think

[20:59:12]

gav1n:

and there maybe other situations

[20:59:17]

trumee (trumee!~nobody@cpc2-cmbg15-0-0-cust1000.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:00:07]

hachi:

can I use the dvb-apps tools to examine if my channels have callsigns or programming sent somehow on the line?

[21:00:12]

trumee:

i upgraded to kde 4.4 today. mythfrontend doesnt go full screen now. instead the taskbar is always shown.

[21:00:41]

trumee:

the only way to go fullscreen was to set the taskbar panel to auto-hide

[21:00:51]

trumee:

anybody seen this?

[21:01:14]

sphery:

hachi: if they do, Myth would put it in (unless they're out-of-band info, such as SCTE65, in which case you need to use scte65scan)

[21:01:41]

sphery:

trumee: did you upgrade Myth, too or just KDE?

[21:02:13]

sphery:

hachi: by "Myth would put it in" I mean the mythtv-setup channel scanner would put it in

[21:02:34]

hachi:

I just need so badly for something to work correctly

[21:02:44]

hachi:

I can't get the channel numbers, I can't get the callsigns

[21:03:06]

hachi:

and 1 out of every 10 channels causes mythtv to kick me back out to the main menu without telling me what channel it's tuning

[21:03:06]

sphery:

where's the TV coming from?

[21:03:27]

hachi:

ATSC QAM-256 from a cable provider

[21:03:32]

sphery:

comcast?

[21:03:35]

hachi:

astound

[21:03:51]

hachi:

they might be running similar hardware

[21:03:56]

hachi:

same business area

[21:04:12]

sphery:

if so, perhaps http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Comcast_Users_And_scte65scan might help

[21:05:02]

hachi:

debian packages of it at all?

[21:05:09]

hachi:

(no harm if there aren't

[21:05:13]

sphery:

don't know

[21:05:41]

hachi:

what's a DTA or an STB?

[21:05:59]

hachi:

Set Top Box

[21:06:03]

hachi:

DTA is something else

[21:06:16]

sphery:

DTA is a type of STB

[21:08:11]

sphery:

It's a "Digital Television Adapter" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_adapter

[21:08:27]

hachi:

ahh, kay

[21:08:28]

hachi:

thanks

[21:08:51]

devinheitmueller:

DTAs are generally low-cost settop boxes which generally only put out SD, and lack both Cablecard support and an OOB.

[21:09:43]

devinheitmueller:

They were seen as a way for cable companies to switch to digital (freeing analog bandwidth) without incurring the cost of having to issue every customer a cablecard enabled settop box.

[21:10:23]

ForsGump (ForsGump!~fabulous@sierra.jamespurl.org) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:11:21]

hachi:

ahh

[21:11:44]

hachi:

thank god they actually saw a cost savings in that

[21:12:47]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: it's not so much that it's a cost savings as it allows them to offer more HD channels and reallocate bandwidth for on demand programming and Internet access (without having to add more capacity to their infrastructure). So it does save them cost in the long run.

[21:13:33]

superdump (superdump!~rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:14:08]

devinheitmueller:

The ROI on Cablecard based boxes is longer, and there was a threat of losing customers by forcing them to pay for the more expensive boxes. The DTAs were cheap enough where they could make them available for free for the first year.

[21:15:30]

trumee:

sphery: upgraded just kde. qt was upgraded as well. do i need to build mythtv against the new qt as well?

[21:16:16]

danielk22 (danielk22!~danielk@96.57.9.142) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[21:16:45]

ForsGump (ForsGump!~fabulous@sierra.jamespurl.org) has quit (Quit: leaving)

[21:17:12]

sphery:

trumee: shouldn't need to... if that's the case, then it's likely changes to the window manager used by kde. You don't have Myth set to "Use window border" (run in a window), do you?

[21:18:01]

trumee:

sphery: i dont even know what this "Use window border" means :)

[21:18:11]

sphery:

if not, it's probably broken with your WM (see http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7958 )

[21:18:32]

Shadow__X (Shadow__X!~jose@c-76-99-93-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: Operation timed out)

[21:18:48]

Shadow__X (Shadow__X!~jose@c-76-99-93-112.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:18:56]

sphery:

and, basically, that means it likely won't work until 0.23 for you

[21:18:56]

devinheitmueller:

trumee: I had a similar issue with Gnome on Ubuntu. I had to set the "desktop effects" level to none, as it was some sort of conflict with Compiz.

[21:19:26]

trumee:

devinheitmueller: i dont have compiz, but do use "desktop effects" in kde

[21:19:46]

devinheitmueller:

trumee: just as a test, try turning it off and see if it makes a difference.

[21:19:48]

cityOfLights (cityOfLights!~cityOfLig@bzq-84-109-125-247.red.bezeqint.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[21:20:41]

trumee:

devinheitmueller: nope, didnt make any difference

[21:21:07]

devinheitmueller:

ok, well I don't have any other suggestions then. :-/

[21:21:58]

pat_ (pat_!~pat@203.171.82.242.static.rev.aanet.com.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[21:22:12]

trumee:

devinheitmueller: no worries. i am upgrading kde 4 on a suse sytem as well. will check what happens there (this is a gentoo box)

[21:24:33]

pat_ (pat_!~pat@203.171.82.242.static.rev.aanet.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:26:02]

Bagg0r1 (Bagg0r1!~oystean@215.84-48-202.nextgentel.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:26:32]

Bagg0r1:

anyone know how to install em28xx-drivers properly? I have a pinnacle hdtv usb stick that i want to install..

[21:28:07]

devinheitmueller:

Bagg0r1: specifically which stick is it?

[21:28:23]

devinheitmueller:

Bagg0r1: (please provide the USB ID)

[21:28:46]

Bagg0r1:

I'll find it

[21:28:52]

Bagg0r1:

dmesg, right?

[21:28:56]

superdump (superdump!~rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2-dev)

[21:28:57]

devinheitmueller:

or run "lsusb"

[21:30:46]

Bagg0r1:

ID: 2304:023d

[21:31:10]

devinheitmueller:

ok, one second.

[21:31:17]

devinheitmueller:

Oh crap, yeah I know what that is.

[21:31:19]

devinheitmueller:

That's the 340e

[21:31:24]

Bagg0r1:

really?

[21:31:31]

Bagg0r1:

says 320e on the stick

[21:31:36]

devinheitmueller:

Yeah the "023d" is a 340e.

[21:31:50]

** devinheitmueller double checks.... **

[21:32:56]

devinheitmueller:

Yup, the 023d is a 340e.

[21:33:09]

devinheitmueller:

Well, you don't need em28xx then.

[21:33:18]

devinheitmueller:

Since that's a dib0700/xc4000 design.

[21:33:19]

Bagg0r1:

so they printed it wrong on the stick

[21:33:35]

devinheitmueller:

Send me a digital photo of the stick and I can confirm.

[21:33:53]

devinheitmueller:

Does it look like this: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PC . . . o_Stick_340e

[21:34:11]

Bagg0r1:

yes

[21:34:21]

devinheitmueller:

Yup, it's a 340e then.

[21:34:24]

Bagg0r1:

cool

[21:34:43]

devinheitmueller:

You just need to clone out this tree and install it then: http://kernellabs.com/hg/~dheitmueller/pctv-340e-2

[21:34:46]

trumee (trumee!~nobody@cpc2-cmbg15-0-0-cust1000.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[21:35:06]

Bagg0r1:

geez louise.. i've been looking for the wrong drivers all the time then

[21:35:09]

Bagg0r1:

thank you very much

[21:35:16]

devinheitmueller:

np

[21:35:29]

devinheitmueller:

And you can track development status on that product here: http://www.kernellabs.com/blog/?cat=32

[21:36:50]

devinheitmueller:

... and if you have any problems with the driver, I hear that guy named "devinheitmueller" can be found lurking on #linuxtv.

[21:37:40]

devinheitmueller:

... and he accepts tips in his tipjar here: http://www.devinheitmueller.com/linux_support_fund.html

[21:37:41]

devinheitmueller:

:-)

[21:38:14]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:38:17]

grndslm (grndslm!~grndslm@174-126-14-4.cpe.cableone.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[21:38:44]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[21:39:06]

Bagg0r1:

i'll keep that in mind, devinheitmueller :)

[21:40:05]

wagnerrp:

http://www.starving-programmers.net/

[21:40:18]

wagnerrp:

:P

[21:41:27]

flexy (flexy!~flexy@82-128-205-235-Korvensuora-TR1.suomi.net) has quit (Quit: leaving)

[21:44:05]

beata- (beata-!beata@c-68-49-32-212.hsd1.md.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[21:46:45]

devinheitmueller:

wagnerrp: yeah, the 340e was one of those projects which I got sucked into despite not having *any* personal vested interest in seeing it working (since I have no need for DVB-T). I just did the driver work because I was the only one who had access to the required info from Xceive.

[21:48:11]

wagnerrp:

im a bit surprised i dont see ads for the starving artists stuff anymore

[21:48:18]

wagnerrp:

they used to be on all the time

[21:48:36]

wagnerrp:

although that may just be due to me watching considerably less ads

[21:48:59]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[21:51:21]

croppa (croppa!~stuart@135.27.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:53:21]

WillieDynamite (WillieDynamite!~WillieDyn@2001:470:c017:cafe:cafe:cafe:cafe:30) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:00:06]

simcop2387 (simcop2387!~simcop238@p3m/member/simcop2387) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:01:43]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@192.18.37.108) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[22:05:58]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@129.62.151.109) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:07:00]

Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!~chris@h136.194.20.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) has quit (Quit: I am called onward)

[22:08:08]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:08:54]

javatexan (javatexan!~mia@129.62.151.109) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[22:14:22]

psipsi (psipsi!~psipsi@rrcs-24-227-36-210.se.biz.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[22:15:24]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[22:15:53]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:20:52]

psipsi (psipsi!~psipsi@rrcs-24-227-36-210.se.biz.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:21:42]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[22:25:38]

WillieDynamite (WillieDynamite!~WillieDyn@2001:470:c017:cafe:cafe:cafe:cafe:30) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[22:29:01]

cdpuk (cdpuk!~chris@cdpuk.cdp.me.uk) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[22:44:44]

hachi:

anyone know how to use scte65scan? I just ran it, it found some channels and PIDs, but is stuck in the 'Collecting data (may take up to 2 minutes)' phase

[22:46:51]

gregl (gregl!~greg@cpe-69-204-183-188.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)

[22:49:06]

gregl (gregl!~greg@cpe-69-204-183-188.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:51:05]

gregl (gregl!~greg@cpe-69-204-183-188.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[22:51:41]

Trav (Trav!~quassel@pool-74-106-238-179.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:52:21]

Trav:

hello can anyone help me my backend is not communicating with the front just installed it

[22:53:59]

wagnerrp:

are they the same version?

[22:54:10]

wagnerrp:

are they on the same machine?

[22:54:38]

wagnerrp:

have you checked the frontend logs?

[22:54:45]

wagnerrp:

and/or backend logs?

[22:56:00]

Trav:

same machine same version I checked frontend logs don't now how to check the backend

[22:56:38]

fleers (fleers!~fleers@cpe-76-93-149-51.san.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:58:09]

wagnerrp:

possibly in /var/log/mythtv/

[22:58:17]

Trav:

k

[23:02:06]

Trav:

it says DTVMux, Error: Could not find tuning parameters for mplex 32767

[23:02:26]

wagnerrp:

thats got nothing to do with the frontend connecting

[23:03:21]

streeter (streeter!~streeter@nat/redhat/x-trciwadzvghwcvsc) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[23:04:38]

Trav:

i see that but the error was telling me there is a problem with the back end

[23:04:47]

Trav:

so what does that mean?

[23:05:03]

wagnerrp:

if means you did not set up your channels properly

[23:05:29]

Trav:

ok do the backend setup again?

[23:05:48]

wagnerrp:

no, figure out why your frontend isnt connecting

[23:06:39]

leifmadsen (leifmadsen!~Leif@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:06:41]

wagnerrp:

so youve got something to help you debug recording issues

[23:06:55]

wagnerrp:

pastebin your frontend logs

[23:07:54]

Trav:

I think it is it says in the log New DB scheduler connection

[23:08:43]

wagnerrp:

thats the backend logs

[23:08:52]

Trav:

yes

[23:09:08]

wagnerrp:

and has nothing to do with the frontend connection

[23:09:14]

Trav:

it also says DVBChan(1:/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0) Error: SetChannelByString(16): Failed to initialize multiplex options

[23:09:29]

Trav:

what does that mean?

[23:09:32]

wagnerrp:

again, nothing to do with the frontend connection

[23:09:36]

wagnerrp:

pastebin your frontend logs

[23:10:20]

Trav:

where is frontend logs?

[23:10:30]

wagnerrp:

hopefully in that same folder

[23:10:39]

Trav:

I was looking on the myth tv system status

[23:11:56]

Trav:

ok

[23:12:22]

devinheitmueller:

Yeah, the frontend logs are not available through the GUI. You need to drop to a console and look for /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log

[23:12:50]

Trav:

I have mythfilldatabase.log

[23:13:10]

Trav:

no mythfrontend.log

[23:13:15]

Trav:

do i need to turn it on?

[23:13:17]

devinheitmueller:

:-/

[23:13:22]

devinheitmueller:

No, it should be enabled by default.

[23:13:33]

devinheitmueller:

How about you pastebin the output of "ls /var/log/mythtv"

[23:16:41]

Trav:

pastebin is the command (sorry nubie)

[23:16:41]

hachi:

anyone know what tools I can use to start tearing apart the receptions from an DVB- ATSC card?

[23:17:16]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: what do you mean by "tearing apart"?

[23:17:28]

devinheitmueller:

Trav: http://pastebin.com/

[23:18:18]

hachi:

I can't find how my TV is getting channel markers for things

[23:18:34]

hachi:

I have to assume it's there, and just being ignored because of a wrong marker or something

[23:18:34]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: what do you mean by channel markers?

[23:19:20]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: you appear to be making up terminology to describe your problem. Please explain what you are trying to do in simpler terms.

[23:19:24]

hachi:

like channel 2 is marked as channel 120#0 in mythtv when it scans

[23:19:26]

hachi:

yess

[23:19:41]

hachi:

I am making up terminology

[23:19:51]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: are you doing ATSC or ClearQAM?

[23:20:01]

hachi:

ATSC QAM-256 as far as I know

[23:20:08]

hachi:

I've never seen the term ClearQAM yet

[23:20:22]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: Are you connecting to an over-the-air antenna, or digital cable?

[23:20:27]

hachi:

digital cable

[23:20:34]

devinheitmueller:

Ok, then you're doing ClearQAM.

[23:20:50]

hachi:

how do I tell mythtv to do that instead of ATSC?

[23:21:06]

devinheitmueller:

The names of the channels typically come from the VCT info provided by the cable company. And if the channel names are not inband, MythTV makes up names.

[23:21:23]

hachi:

yeah, but my TV is labelling them right

[23:21:25]

devinheitmueller:

... and you can change the names in the channel editor under mythtv-setup.

[23:21:36]

hachi:

and I have 300+ programs to label

[23:21:47]

devinheitmueller:

I'm not going to debate the quality of the channel scanner in MythTV.

[23:22:06]

devinheitmueller:

Also, are you using the MythTV channel scanner, or did you import the data from scte65scan?

[23:22:08]

hachi:

that's why I'm trying to find tools in dvb-apps or something

[23:22:12]

bjd:

its not that great is it?

[23:22:28]

devinheitmueller:

bjd: it could definitely use some work.

[23:22:34]

hachi:

scte65scan halted

[23:22:35]

bjd:

mmm

[23:22:52]

bjd:

i had issues cos i picked up two transmitters ;/

[23:22:56]

hachi:

I tried using 'scan'

[23:23:19]

hachi:

I've also tried the mythtv channel scanner

[23:23:35]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: Well, if you used "scan" then you didn't get the benefits of the SCTE65 info, and if the cable company didn't embed the info in PSIP, then you won't be able to get the channel names.

[23:23:43]

Trav:

ok her the ls http://pastebin.com/f6281b090

[23:23:53]

devinheitmueller:

How long did you wait when you say that "scte65scan halted"?

[23:23:59]

hachi:

2 hours

[23:24:03]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:24:06]

devinheitmueller:

If you really do have 300 channels, it would not surprise me to find it taking quite a while.

[23:24:14]

devinheitmueller:

Yeah, 2 hours seems a bit on the high end. :-/

[23:24:15]

hachi:

at the '2 minutes' screen

[23:24:24]

hachi:

I've got it running again

[23:24:36]

hachi:

but the thing is... I need something to work with... I'm cranking up -v

[23:24:43]

hachi:

but basically, nothing tells me any information

[23:24:55]

devinheitmueller:

Trav: You don't seem to have a frontend log. Maybe because whatever user you are running the frontend as some user who doesn't have write privileges to that directory.

[23:24:56]

hachi:

are there PSIP markers being found, but they're malformed... is there 0 traffic?

[23:25:10]

GlemSom (GlemSom!~glemsom@0x5da34bca.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1105.sdnqu1.customer.tele.dk) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[23:25:12]

hachi:

iare there SCTE things being found... I think I need to back up one step

[23:25:12]

Trav:

k

[23:25:17]

hachi:

and see if the data is even there on the line

[23:25:43]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: yeah, you would probably need to either turn up the verbosity of scte65scan, or add some debugging info to the source.

[23:26:19]

devinheitmueller:

Nonetheless, it'

[23:26:45]

devinheitmueller:

s not surprising that the mythtv channel scanner and "scan" wouldn't be able to determine the channel names for ClearQAM, since most cable providers do not provide PSIP info.

[23:27:12]

hachi:

the thing is, I know my provider is sending something out, because the TV does the right thing

[23:27:26]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: and this is without a cable box?

[23:27:31]

hachi:

yup

[23:27:34]

hachi:

no box

[23:27:42]

devinheitmueller:

It could very well be some issue with mythtv's scanner not properly parsing the info.

[23:27:53]

devinheitmueller:

I can make no claims to how well the mythtv channel scanner works.

[23:27:55]

hachi:

but stracing scte65scan -k -p

[23:27:57]

GreyFoxx:

the box downloads the channel mapping info over a seperate means than the dvb data

[23:28:08]

hachi:

the demux0 device node isn't even outputting anything

[23:28:14]

devinheitmueller:

GreyFoxx: he said he didn't have a cable box.

[23:28:51]

GreyFoxx:

Weird, most providers only pass channel mapping info and program giuide via another communication spec and not in the standard dvb streams

[23:28:59]

devinheitmueller:

GreyFoxx: he said his *television* got the channel info, suggesting the mythtv scanner isn't picking up the CVCT.

[23:29:09]

hachi:

I honestly don't know what it implies

[23:29:10]

GreyFoxx:

my TV for example has no fracking idea what channel is what when I do a clear qam scan :)

[23:29:21]

devinheitmueller:

GreyFoxx: agreed, except his TV picked up the data, suggesting it was inband.

[23:29:38]

GreyFoxx:

Probably via guide+ or something

[23:29:44]

hachi:

bluh

[23:29:50]

hachi:

my TV does have a guide thing in it

[23:29:51]

devinheitmueller:

GreyFoxx: unlikely if it's digital.

[23:30:02]

hachi:

it crashes and makes the TV really slow

[23:30:05]

hachi:

like a bad computer

[23:30:05]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: oh, you do have a third party guide?

[23:30:09]

hachi:

it's really weird

[23:30:17]

devinheitmueller:

Yeah, in that case it might be figuring out the channel names from some external source.

[23:30:18]

hachi:

it's TVGuide

[23:30:24]

hachi:

painted on the face of the TV

[23:30:38]

hachi:

well, it's still doing it via the cable line though

[23:31:05]

hachi:

if I might ask, why don't services like schedules direct show the QAM tuning info for the channels

[23:31:19]

hachi:

instead of this virtual number that seems to be untracked in any form

[23:31:34]

devinheitmueller:

hachi: the providers are continuously moving the frequencies for the ClearQAM channels, so SD wouldn't be able to keep up.

[23:32:03]

devinheitmueller:

It's not like NTSC where "channel 4" can always be found on the same frequency.

[23:32:07]

hachi:

:\

[23:32:08]

hachi:

yeah

[23:32:08]

J-e-f-f-A:

Does his tv have 'gemstar' (or was that just analog cabe?)

[23:32:28]

hachi:

okay, so...

[23:32:34]

hachi:

the guide broke a few months ago

[23:32:52]

hachi:

and hasn't worked since either, I forgot about that

[23:33:09]

hachi:

but it used to get the guide data via the cable line somehow

[23:33:13]

hachi:

not a different data transport

[23:33:38]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[23:34:32]

devinheitmueller:

crap, meeting. ttyl.

[23:34:33]

devinheitmueller (devinheitmueller!~dheitmuel@208.51.239.218) has left #mythtv-users ()

[23:36:50]

grokky (grokky!~grokky@ppp118-209-203-155.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:39:19]

** sphery is happy to find out that the Undercover Boss episode that aired after the Superbowl is re-airing tonight **

[23:40:08]

sphery:

I normally don't watch reality TV, but that wasn't too bad. Unfortunately, I didn't put an overrecord on it, so I lost the last 15mins.

[23:42:06]

J-e-f-f-A:

Hey mzb – how ya doing? ;-)

[23:42:25]

mzb:

good thanks, and you?

[23:43:12]

J-e-f-f-A:

Good. ;-)

[23:43:48]

inordkuo (inordkuo!~inorkuo@97.66.21.169) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[23:45:16]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)

[23:46:33]

MartinJT (MartinJT!~martin@109.170.141.132) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)

[23:46:43]

hachi:

is there some chance I could find callsigns via CC info on the channel?

[23:47:13]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:47:40]

J-e-f-f-A:

I doubt it...

[23:48:27]

mattwynne (mattwynne!~mattwynne@cust104-dsl58.idnet.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[23:49:24]

AngruBurrito (AngruBurrito!~4b76c5f8@gateway/web/freenode/x-reuehyyuqwighvcm) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:51:41]

AngruBurrito:

I am setting up a mythtv box and wanted to know a good usb tuner to use that can be used with a universal remote. an suggestions

[23:52:34]

AngruBurrito (AngruBurrito!~4b76c5f8@gateway/web/freenode/x-reuehyyuqwighvcm) has quit (Client Quit)

[23:56:13]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@c-76-119-52-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:56:15]

syamajala (syamajala!~syamajala@c-76-119-52-223.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[23:56:49]

leifmadsen (leifmadsen!~Leif@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[23:57:01]

hadees (hadees!~hadees@24-155-108-90.dyn.grandenetworks.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:59:45]

MartinJT (MartinJT!~martin@109.170.141.132) has joined #mythtv-users

MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

Current users (208):