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| [00:03:37] | jmk-mcfaul: | bit of MythMusic strangeness |
| [00:04:20] | jmk-mcfaul: | ripped a CD and 9 of 10 tracks appear where they should in the index. But the 10th one appears as "Unknown Artist" |
| [00:04:34] | jmk-mcfaul: | it has the proper album and song title, just the artist is wrong |
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| [00:05:26] | jmk-mcfaul: | the tags look the same as all the other tracks (using easytags), and it is in the same place in the directory tree as all the rest (under the proper artist/album) |
| [00:06:35] | jmk-mcfaul: | any thoughts or suggested fix? |
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| [00:11:50] | newbie005: | hi, I'm trying to use mythtranscode. Is there a way to specify say 3 to indicate the spongebob epsiode I want? I don't get how I would know what channel and time it was on |
| [00:12:42] | newbie005: | I thought it would prompt me with a list of epsiodes and then I could indicate which specific epsiode I am interested in |
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| [00:21:48] | kormoc: | newbie005: use nuvexport |
| [00:21:57] | newbie005: | ah yes.. |
| [00:22:33] | newbie005: | that is what I was thinking of |
| [00:22:52] | newbie005: | hmm, I don't have it.. |
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| [00:26:13] | cipher42: | anyone here have mythtv working with verizon? |
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| [00:26:42] | cipher42: | i just got a firewire, also have a digital tuner card, but having trouble getting everything working |
| [00:27:41] | newbie005: | is nuvexport a perl script? I'm not able to find it.. should it be in /usr/share or a seperate download? |
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| [00:40:40] | sphery: | newbie005: or just choose the recording in Watch Recordings, hit INFO (I), then Job Options|Transcode... and select the transcode profile |
| [00:41:03] | sphery: | newbie005: and nuvexport is a perl script |
| [00:41:08] | sphery: | there should be a package for it |
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| [00:41:25] | sphery: | (possibly with other myth stuff--maybe mythextras or something) |
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| [00:44:07] | cipher42: | can't figure out how to get my mtythv to change my verizon fios channels |
| [00:45:39] | sphery: | newbie005: and another benefit of using Watch Recordings is that it will queue the transcodes, so you can set them all up and it will process them one after the other |
| [00:46:26] | sphery: | cipher42: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6977 perhaps? |
| [00:49:07] | cipher42: | how do i install them? |
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| [00:57:07] | sphery: | cipher42: I don't even know that it would help |
| [00:57:30] | sphery: | better option would be to find another fios user to ask for help |
| [00:58:47] | newbie005: | +sphery: what i want is to export a single epsiode once |
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| [00:58:53] | tmkt: | hey hey |
| [00:59:17] | newbie005: | not sure what setting I would put in the transcoder, just want to delete the commericals so I can export it to a nintendo ds |
| [00:59:23] | sphery: | newbie005: either approach would work |
| [00:59:44] | tmkt: | anyone have at hand a link to the solution to then 2–3 minute delay for my remote to start working when i start up mythfrontend? remember seeing an article about it, but can't seem to find it anymore |
| [01:00:01] | sphery: | though you'll likely need something other than NUV to export to DS, so nuvexport may be better |
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| [01:01:09] | newbie005: | I have a program to export to the ds, I just need the file without the commericals |
| [01:01:20] | newbie005: | where can I find nuvexport? |
| [01:01:55] | mag0o: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Nuvexport |
| [01:02:08] | newbie005: | I've see that link,, it doesn't have the script |
| [01:03:08] | sphery: | check your package manager |
| [01:03:30] | newbie005: | is it that nuvexport came with mythtv, and now it's hidden away on my OS? |
| [01:04:08] | newbie005: | I'm using fedora, I tried a yum search,, I'll see what I can find out from fedora and rpmfusion |
| [01:04:29] | mag0o: | xris: fyi, getting "You don't have permission to access /files/nuvexport-latest.tar.bz2 on this server." |
| [01:04:48] | mag0o: | (otherwise i'd give you the link newbie005 ) |
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| [01:05:11] | cipher42: | ok so ur right, i needed 6200ch script, i got it compiles, how do i tell mythtv an argument |
| [01:05:18] | cipher42: | for example "6200ch 505" |
| [01:05:27] | cipher42: | do i do "6200ch $1" |
| [01:05:51] | newbie005: | thanks guys |
| [01:06:20] | iamlindoro: | mag0o, |
| [01:06:25] | iamlindoro: | mag0o, nuvexport is in svn |
| [01:06:30] | iamlindoro: | which is its home |
| [01:07:40] | cipher42: | how do i express arugments in mythtv? |
| [01:07:54] | mag0o: | newbie005: ^^ |
| [01:07:56] | cipher42: | i need to use a channel changing script |
| [01:08:55] | iamlindoro: | cipher42, you don't place any variables in myth channel change scripts |
| [01:09:05] | iamlindoro: | myth appends the channel name to the end itself |
| [01:09:11] | cipher42: | do i need a space? |
| [01:09:13] | iamlindoro: | s/name/number/ |
| [01:09:14] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [01:09:34] | cipher42: | well when i just put 6200ch, the logs tell me i need the channel parameter |
| [01:10:01] | iamlindoro: | then you misconfigured something else |
| [01:10:05] | newbie005: | thanks! found it here http://forevermore.net/files/nuvexport/ |
| [01:10:18] | iamlindoro: | no, again, that is *not* current nuvexport |
| [01:10:26] | cipher42: | so i just put "6200ch" in there an that's it? |
| [01:10:55] | iamlindoro: | do you have the executable installed in your path? |
| [01:12:17] | cipher42: | yes |
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| [01:12:34] | iamlindoro: | doesn't seem so |
| [01:12:39] | cipher42: | when i have it like that, it's running 6200ch |
| [01:12:46] | cipher42: | cuz it comes up with the help in the logs |
| [01:12:54] | cipher42: | it's not getting the channel parameter |
| [01:13:18] | iamlindoro: | then you have misconfigured something else-- you *do not* (and never have) needed to place any variable in the channel change box |
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| [01:15:53] | cipher42: | ok thanks.... |
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| [01:18:31] | cipher42: | how do i scan for channels? seems you can only do this with ntsc? |
| [01:19:03] | iamlindoro: | you don't scan for channels when you are capturing from a set top box |
| [01:19:05] | wagnerrp: | no, you cannot do this with NTSC or PAL |
| [01:19:27] | wagnerrp: | only scans of digital tuners are currently supported |
| [01:20:20] | cipher42: | do i set it for eit? |
| [01:20:27] | cipher42: | thanks for the help |
| [01:20:33] | wagnerrp: | you can only use EIT with digital tuners |
| [01:20:37] | cipher42: | i have one |
| [01:20:45] | cipher42: | and it's hooked up to my fios |
| [01:20:50] | cipher42: | i have firewire and coaxal |
| [01:20:51] | wagnerrp: | then you shouldnt be using EIT |
| [01:20:59] | cipher42: | no grabber then |
| [01:21:00] | cipher42: | ? |
| [01:21:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | schedulesdirect.org |
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| [01:21:21] | wagnerrp: | think he got that? |
| [01:21:38] | iamlindoro: | think the reason his channel change script isn't working is because he hasn't bothered to set Myth up... |
| [01:21:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: wow... touchy guy, eh? |
| [01:21:55] | iamlindoro: | someone needs to read the docs |
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| [01:22:39] | cipher42: | sorry, i got disconnected, what frequency table do i use? |
| [01:22:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | iamlindoro: btw: great reply to the ticket... |
| [01:23:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: Which are you trying to get working, QAM tuning via internal tuner in your Myth box, or Firewire? |
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| [01:24:25] | wagnerrp: | cipher42: tuners use a frequency table, if you are using an external tuner such as a STB, you dont want one |
| [01:24:27] | cipher42: | either one would be nice |
| [01:24:33] | cipher42: | yea i have an stb |
| [01:24:46] | cipher42: | ok, so set it up for no grabber? |
| [01:24:47] | wagnerrp: | cipher42: you dont use EIT, because EIT is effectively worthless in the US, much more so over cable |
| [01:24:59] | wagnerrp: | you sign up for an account at schedulesdirect |
| [01:25:04] | cipher42: | well it asks for a channel frequency table |
| [01:25:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: Probably the only thing you're going to get in clear qam is your locals, so probably not worth the effort. |
| [01:25:07] | cipher42: | not sure what to put |
| [01:25:17] | cipher42: | that would be great |
| [01:25:18] | wagnerrp: | pay your dues, and get high quality guide data with little effory |
| [01:25:37] | cipher42: | i AM paying, just want to have a myth tivo |
| [01:25:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | ^^ use schedulesdirect.org — 7 day trial, and only $20/year — top quality guide data. |
| [01:25:58] | cipher42: | can i just do no grabber for now? |
| [01:26:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | MythTV != Tivo – it's way better... |
| [01:26:10] | wagnerrp: | you can... but mythtv is basically worthless without guide data |
| [01:26:46] | cipher42: | yea i know |
| [01:26:53] | cipher42: | it's way better, that's why i want it |
| [01:26:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: And Schedulesdirect.org has a free 7-day trial... |
| [01:27:00] | wagnerrp: | and SD will provide your analog channel lineups as well |
| [01:27:03] | cipher42: | i had it working in analog at my old house |
| [01:27:08] | wagnerrp: | so you dont have to manually input channels for your STB |
| [01:27:23] | cipher42: | i already can change channels via 6200ch script |
| [01:27:34] | wagnerrp: | but you have to have a list of channels |
| [01:27:45] | wagnerrp: | and there is no form of analog scanning |
| [01:27:46] | cipher42: | but i have to have my tuner on channel 3, and it errors out on that every time i try to watch it from a front end |
| [01:27:54] | wagnerrp: | then youre doing it wrong |
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| [01:28:01] | wagnerrp: | because you shouldnt be using a tuner, with an external tuner |
| [01:28:18] | high-rez: | Is it SD that provides the channel icons? |
| [01:28:28] | cipher42: | i have firewire hooked up as well |
| [01:28:29] | wagnerrp: | you should be using svideo preferably, or composite if you dont have that |
| [01:28:41] | cipher42: | composite for hd??? |
| [01:28:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | RF for HD???? |
| [01:28:58] | wagnerrp: | if you are doing HD, you need component and a HDPVR |
| [01:29:07] | wagnerrp: | you will NOT get HD over the RF output of any box |
| [01:29:10] | cipher42: | i have a hauappauge 1800 |
| [01:29:19] | cipher42: | bull |
| [01:29:27] | cipher42: | i tried it on my tv and it works like a charm |
| [01:29:35] | cipher42: | on channel 3 of "antenna" |
| [01:29:39] | cipher42: | which is QAM |
| [01:29:48] | wagnerrp: | through the box? |
| [01:29:51] | cipher42: | yes |
| [01:29:56] | cipher42: | stb |
| [01:30:03] | cipher42: | that's how it works |
| [01:30:05] | wagnerrp: | then its in full craptastic 480i glory |
| [01:30:10] | cipher42: | no.......... |
| [01:30:14] | wagnerrp: | yes........... |
| [01:30:16] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [01:30:17] | cipher42: | it's 1080i |
| [01:30:26] | high-rez: | then you're not going through the stb |
| [01:30:27] | wagnerrp: | your STB outputs 480i NTSC through its RF output |
| [01:30:28] | cipher42: | you can change it to whatever you want on the stb |
| [01:30:28] | iamlindoro: | set top boxes don't come with QAM modulators |
| [01:30:40] | cipher42: | uh, yes they do |
| [01:30:45] | iamlindoro: | uh, no they don't. |
| [01:30:52] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [01:30:58] | cipher42: | mine is doing it right now |
| [01:31:03] | cipher42: | on my tv |
| [01:31:04] | high-rez: | *cough*bs*cough* |
| [01:31:10] | kormoc: | cipher42: tell us of the magic brand and model number of this STB! |
| [01:31:15] | cipher42: | 7100 |
| [01:31:18] | cipher42: | motorola |
| [01:31:26] | cipher42: | sorry, not trying to be an ass |
| [01:31:31] | cipher42: | thanks for the help guyz |
| [01:31:39] | cipher42: | and sorry if i'm an idiot |
| [01:31:40] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [01:31:42] | kormoc: | same as mine |
| [01:31:48] | kormoc: | that only does 480i over the rf... |
| [01:31:52] | high-rez: | You';re not beibng an ass, you'r just wrong. |
| [01:31:57] | kormoc: | http://www22.verizon.com/residentialhelp/fios . . . x/122860.htm |
| [01:31:57] | cipher42: | ok well thanks |
| [01:32:07] | cipher42: | ok so i only get 1080 over the hdmi? |
| [01:32:09] | high-rez: | You should listen to the advice of people here – if you do – you'll get a really sweet setup |
| [01:32:16] | wagnerrp: | cipher42: and componant |
| [01:32:37] | high-rez: | Your card can pull clear qam, but NOT from the RF-output on your STB. Seriously |
| [01:32:43] | high-rez: | your STB is modulating analog out. |
| [01:33:01] | cipher42: | what about the firewire out? |
| [01:33:14] | kormoc: | works great for the few channels that support it |
| [01:33:20] | wagnerrp: | sure, but most channels will be encrypted |
| [01:33:33] | cipher42: | i thought the stb decrypted everything? |
| [01:33:37] | wagnerrp: | it does |
| [01:33:43] | wagnerrp: | and then it re-encrypts over firewire and HDMI |
| [01:33:51] | wagnerrp: | they have to protect the content from you |
| [01:34:15] | cipher42: | well how come my tv can decrypt it and tuner card can't? |
| [01:34:20] | high-rez: | Protecting you from yourself is the only way for thenm to protect their content... that you paid for. |
| [01:34:28] | kormoc: | cipher42: see http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/consumer/bin/pd . . . %20Guide.pdf page 7 for more info (Optimizing your QIP Receiver for high definition tv) |
| [01:34:31] | high-rez: | caiuse your tuner card doesn't have tne encryption keys ? |
| [01:34:42] | cipher42: | ah man |
| [01:35:08] | cipher42: | so can i at least record in SD on all channels? |
| [01:35:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | yes. |
| [01:35:27] | cipher42: | you guyz are so helpful, thanks so much |
| [01:35:34] | kormoc: | buy a hdpvr and enjoy the 1080 joy |
| [01:35:52] | cipher42: | hdpvr can decrypt or something? |
| [01:35:58] | wagnerrp: | no, its analog |
| [01:36:05] | wagnerrp: | there is no encryption |
| [01:36:23] | cipher42: | i can do that now with my hauppauge 1800 right? |
| [01:36:27] | high-rez: | No |
| [01:36:35] | kormoc: | cipher42: only if your happauge 1800 takes component in |
| [01:36:41] | high-rez: | Your 1800 isn't able to take component in, and encode it in HD h264. |
| [01:36:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: So you don't get much over firewire out there on the 'left coast'? jarod seems to get many over here on the "right coast'... |
| [01:36:58] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A: not much at all |
| [01:37:11] | wagnerrp: | cipher42: your 1800 isnt usable for analog in mythtv at all |
| [01:37:44] | cipher42: | right..... |
| [01:37:51] | cipher42: | i have a leadtek expert tho |
| [01:37:53] | cipher42: | xp |
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| [01:38:06] | cipher42: | damn so 1080 is out of the question for me eh? |
| [01:38:07] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Humm... I'll probably switch anyways, and if I can't get channels via firewire, I'll capture them via my PVR-500 and 250 until I can ante up the $$$ for HD-PVRs... |
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| [01:38:36] | high-rez: | evil evil drm |
| [01:38:48] | wagnerrp: | J-e-f-f-A: arent both coasts 'left'? |
| [01:38:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: with your current hardware, yes, unless it's in-the-clear on the firewire output, but it's not very likely. HD-PVR is your best option. |
| [01:39:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: Nope. jarod's here in the Boston area near me... ;-) |
| [01:39:23] | cipher42: | how would HD-PVR get me 1080? via hdmi? |
| [01:39:39] | wagnerrp: | analotg |
| [01:39:41] | wagnerrp: | component |
| [01:39:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: he moved out here something like 5 years ago to work for RH. ;-) |
| [01:39:56] | wagnerrp: | J-e-f-f-A: 'left wing' |
| [01:40:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: hehehe... ;-) |
| [01:40:21] | cipher42: | analog component isn't 1080 right? |
| [01:40:27] | high-rez: | it can be |
| [01:40:49] | cipher42: | but i'd have to do hdmi out of my stb? |
| [01:40:59] | high-rez: | no you'd do component out |
| [01:41:02] | wagnerrp: | you dont have component out on your STB? |
| [01:41:23] | high-rez: | The pic of the 7100 i see here shows component out |
| [01:41:32] | high-rez: | http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/consumer/bin/im . . . eotv_vcr.jpg |
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| [01:43:01] | cipher42: | well i should be able to hook that up to my leadtekleadtek WinFast TV2000 XP |
| [01:43:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | it has Component input? |
| [01:43:23] | cipher42: | yea, about 720 i think |
| [01:43:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | IE: Red/Green/Blue |
| [01:43:34] | cipher42: | only yellow |
| [01:43:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | That's COMPOSITE – big difference. |
| [01:43:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | Composite is 480i |
| [01:44:16] | cipher42: | oh oh, sorry... |
| [01:45:13] | cipher42: | do they make pvr's with hdmi in? |
| [01:45:17] | cipher42: | that would simplify it |
| [01:45:22] | cipher42: | i hate component |
| [01:45:23] | high-rez: | Here's the thing. There's only one product that really does what you want. Chances are if there was another product on the market that did the trick the people here would know about it |
| [01:45:24] | high-rez: | dude |
| [01:45:28] | high-rez: | if yuou go out hdmi |
| [01:45:31] | high-rez: | then its encrypted |
| [01:45:39] | high-rez: | as was already said |
| [01:45:49] | high-rez: | whichmeans you don't simplify |
| [01:45:56] | cipher42: | but component isn't encrypted? |
| [01:45:58] | high-rez: | you just don't get what you want. |
| [01:46:02] | high-rez: | component is analog dude |
| [01:46:09] | cipher42: | right, ok sorry |
| [01:46:17] | cipher42: | but it's still 1080? |
| [01:46:22] | cipher42: | that's crazy stupid |
| [01:46:51] | cipher42: | so what is the card i want? |
| [01:46:58] | high-rez: | rather, MOST of the stuff you'll get out of HDMI will be encrypted, accept probably locals. |
| [01:47:01] | high-rez: | You want an HDPVR |
| [01:49:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html |
| [01:51:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: http://mythtv.org/wiki/HD-PVR |
| [01:51:38] | high-rez: | My turn |
| [01:51:46] | high-rez: | cipher42: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hauppauge-HD-PVR-US . . . sku=10205427 |
| [01:51:50] | cipher42: | do i need to keep the digital stb or get the cheaper analog stb? |
| [01:52:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | Depends if you want HD or SD... |
| [01:52:25] | high-rez: | oh wait my link was less than useful |
| [01:53:21] | cipher42: | can you do the 1080 component with the analog stb? |
| [01:53:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: You need the HD STB and a HD-PVR in order to capture High Definition. |
| [01:54:16] | high-rez: | HD STB + HD PVR == HD Setup. Who wouldda thunk? |
| [01:54:23] | cipher42: | awesome thanks guyz |
| [01:54:44] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: The "analog" stb doesn't have HD outputs since it only tunes in Standard-Definition. |
| [01:54:46] | cipher42: | for taking time out for an idiot |
| [01:55:02] | cipher42: | yea well i thought it'd have component, that's not hd right? |
| [01:55:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | It'll have ComPOSite... which is SD 480i |
| [01:56:05] | cipher42: | gotcha, any tips on hooking up my firewire? |
| [01:56:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: Nope – I don't have it yet – search the wiki perhaps: http://mythtv.org/wiki |
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| [01:57:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | high-rez: $209.99 on NewEgg – not too bad... |
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| [02:05:00] | cipher42: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?It . . . p;Tpk=hd-pvr right? |
| [02:05:18] | cipher42: | usb? |
| [02:05:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yes, and yes. |
| [02:05:25] | cipher42: | surprised that's fast enough |
| [02:06:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | cipher42: USB 2.0 is 480Mbps – and it's compressing the HD input into h.264/MPEG4 – it's way more than sufficient. |
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| [02:06:27] | cipher42: | is the component better than the s-video? |
| [02:06:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | Umm... yes? Component is full HD – S-Video is about 640x480i |
| [02:06:56] | cipher42: | oh snap, s-video isn't hd i guess |
| [02:08:09] | cipher42: | i didn't think ubuntu could play h.264 |
| [02:08:32] | J-e-f-f-A: | it's not ubuntu you have to worry about, it's your hardware. |
| [02:08:51] | cipher42: | thought it was a codec issue... |
| [02:08:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | If you've got an Nvidia 8xxx or better GPU, you can use VDPAU to do it in hardware. |
| [02:09:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | Otherwise you need a really beefy CPU to do it in software. |
| [02:09:11] | bonelifer: | anyone with experience with UPS(battery device) and Linux. Any brand to steer clear of? Right now looking at some Tripp Lite devices. |
| [02:09:23] | cipher42: | i have a separate back and front end |
| [02:09:27] | cipher42: | for my myth setup |
| [02:09:51] | TauPan: | hm, if I take that iptv box with all its drm, and connect it via composite video to my hvr-1300, could I record from it? |
| [02:09:54] | cipher42: | hey, any idea why my ps3 can't see my mythtv-backend? |
| [02:09:55] | high-rez: | jeff: Newegg has a limit of 99 per customer :( |
| [02:10:41] | high-rez: | Clearly the real enthusiasts need at least 100 devices ;) |
| [02:10:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | high-rez: Awe, crap, I forgot that. :-( I wanted to buy 100 of them. So muchf or that idea. |
| [02:10:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | ^^ beat me to it by like 5 seconds... |
| [02:12:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | TauPan: I would think so, assuming the HVR-1300's SD tuner works in Linux (I'm not familiar with it.) You'd have to change channels on the IPTV STB with IR. |
| [02:13:13] | TauPan: | yeah, I'm not sure the IR on the hvr can *send* ir signals |
| [02:13:33] | TauPan: | for some reasons there are two ir diodes connected to the IR jack on the card |
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| [02:14:48] | TauPan: | the hvr-1300 itself more or less works with mythtv... with some problems |
| [02:15:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | TauPan: Do you have a hardware serial port? You could always do a simple serial-port blaster. Not optimal, but it works (that's what I've been using since day 1-- like 5+ years now) |
| [02:16:02] | TauPan: | I have a hardware serial port, but I need it for other stuff. |
| [02:16:23] | TauPan: | A usb2serial converter will not work? |
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| [02:19:39] | Squidy: | hello.. how do i configure upnp shares in mythtv? |
| [02:21:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | TauPan: Not for IR blasting, but a usb serial port would work for your 'other stuff' probably, freeing up the hardware port for ir blasting. |
| [02:22:00] | TauPan: | no |
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| [02:22:27] | sphery: | For anyone who's thinking of making a MythTV theme, it seems it's only a weekend project: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/02/week . . . c_light.html |
| [02:22:36] | TauPan: | I use a serial terminal successfully with usb serial, but my atari 800 via sio2usb needs a real uart. |
| [02:22:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | TauPan: IR blasting on the serial port is not transmitting using the serial protocol, it's 'bit-banging' one of the status lines to blink an IR LED connected to it 40,000 times a second to sen an IR code. |
| [02:22:54] | TauPan: | yeah... you need a real serial port for bit banging |
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| [02:23:13] | TauPan: | err, atarisio, not sio2usb |
| [02:23:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | TauPan: I haven't used the IR blasting capabilities of my MS MCE receivers (since they're on my frontends), but I've heard it works well. |
| [02:23:50] | TauPan: | oh |
| [02:24:01] | TauPan: | I *have* an MCE receiver I think. |
| [02:24:11] | TauPan: | looks like I should investigate |
| [02:24:31] | TauPan: | microsoft media center? |
| [02:25:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah. You probably have at least one IR 'eye' that came with it too... (unless you got it used?) |
| [02:26:06] | TauPan: | as I said, there are two 'thingummies' that plug in to the IR jack |
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| [02:26:19] | TauPan: | one of them looks like it's a transmitter, not a receiver |
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| [02:31:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | TauPan: Humm... I'm not familiar with the 1300 – id' check the lirc site to see if it's capable of blasting and is supported in Linux. (or Google away... ;-) ) |
| [02:37:27] | wagnerrp: | that was fun.... |
| [02:37:44] | wagnerrp: | i heard some sizzling noise, and then my backlight turned off |
| [02:38:00] | sphery: | on your monitor? |
| [02:38:02] | sphery: | laptop? |
| [02:38:06] | sphery: | TV? |
| [02:38:14] | ** sphery needs details! ** | |
| [02:38:19] | wagnerrp: | laptop |
| [02:38:27] | wagnerrp: | shut down, pulled batteries |
| [02:38:30] | wagnerrp: | seems to have reset it |
| [02:38:34] | sphery: | weird |
| [02:39:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: eek, not good. |
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| [02:50:01] | sphery: | another Pilot episode without the 0001 programid... |
| [02:50:29] | ** sphery goes to turn add the subtitle pilot to his first episode rule ** | |
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| [03:07:17] | mag0o: | any ideas on why the opengl painter would do this when swapping between workspaces? http://childish.lynchmv.com/OpenGL_Painter.jpg |
| [03:07:38] | mag0o: | only way to remedy it is to exit the frontend |
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| [03:12:35] | mag0o: | or i can clear it up by Utilities > Setup > Appearance and step through that so it redraws the fe |
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| [03:14:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | mag0o: Ick – maybe the video card overheating? [but if it's fixed by 'resetting' the appearance settings... jeepers, I dunno...] |
| [03:14:41] | sphery: | mag0o: which video card? nvidia or ati? |
| [03:14:45] | mag0o: | ati |
| [03:15:03] | mag0o: | laptop, x300 |
| [03:15:10] | sphery: | that's what I thought from the picture |
| [03:15:18] | mag0o: | oss drivers |
| [03:15:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | eww... ati is eeevvviiilll... [the preceding is a personal opinion of me...] ;-) |
| [03:16:08] | sphery: | have you tried the: export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1; mythfrontend |
| [03:16:39] | sphery: | and/or: export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 |
| [03:16:43] | sphery: | mag0o: ^^^ |
| [03:16:55] | mag0o: | gonna try that |
| [03:17:08] | sphery: | don't know if it will work, but it's worth a try |
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| [03:17:53] | ** sphery finally breaks down and throws the remote batteries in the charger... ** | |
| [03:19:22] | sphery: | watching TV with a keyboard is so much more effort |
| [03:19:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: Rechargables in an IR remote control? /me just uses 'real' batteries – Duracell... ;-) |
| [03:19:44] | sphery: | obviously your remote doesn't suck juice like mine :) |
| [03:19:50] | sphery: | mine's an RF remote |
| [03:20:09] | sphery: | 4 AAA's |
| [03:20:19] | high-rez: | I've never changed batteries on my mce remote ;) |
| [03:20:27] | mag0o: | well, i can't get it to mess up now, so maybe that did the trick sphery, thanks |
| [03:20:54] | sphery: | mag0o: cool... I'll keep that in mind (as I'll soon have an ATI-based system with FOSS drivers) |
| [03:21:00] | sphery: | did you use both? |
| [03:21:10] | mag0o: | just the 2nd one |
| [03:21:15] | sphery: | cool |
| [03:21:32] | sphery: | that would make sense |
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| [03:24:40] | ** sphery puts the remote by the charger so he doesn't keep trying to use it ** | |
| [03:29:02] | bonelifer: | on my Windows box I use a wireless keyboard and mouse. I have two Energizer chargers that charge four batteries each plus three sets of four AAA. Overkill but I don't have to go more than a few seconds without batteries. The original non-chargable AA's are still in the keyboard. But the chargers came with two AA's and two AAA's so I'm set. |
| [03:32:57] | sphery: | Yeah, I have a nice 8-battery (AAA, AA, C, D) charger, but I never keep extra AAA's charged (though I have plenty of extras, so I probably should) |
| [03:33:11] | high-rez: | what type of remote is that ? |
| [03:33:12] | high-rez: | that's RF? |
| [03:33:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: Are those batteries Ni-MH? |
| [03:33:30] | high-rez: | I love my mce remote setup, but the usb device is kind of flaky. |
| [03:33:57] | high-rez: | (i think i have the ultimate keybindings/config for it) |
| [03:34:20] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah |
| [03:34:29] | sphery: | it's an ATI Remote Wonder |
| [03:34:40] | high-rez: | Interesting |
| [03:34:52] | high-rez: | i like the idea for sure |
| [03:35:03] | sphery: | if only the implementation lived up to the idea :) |
| [03:35:12] | high-rez: | Eek. :) |
| [03:35:24] | sphery: | as another user said yesterday (ja ms), it has squishy buttons that you have to press really hard |
| [03:35:34] | high-rez: | I love my remote because I have livetv, recorded tv, videos, dvd, music, and pictures buttons that all work |
| [03:35:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: That's good... they'll last much longer (recharge-wise) than Ni-Cad |
| [03:35:45] | bonelifer: | not sure says Nickel Metal Hydride. |
| [03:35:54] | sphery: | yeah, NiMH ftw |
| [03:35:58] | high-rez: | and guide. :) |
| [03:36:34] | high-rez: | But the USB device gets weird. If I let it sit for 8+ hours without interaction, it stops working and I have to press the buttons many many times before it decides to wake up |
| [03:36:35] | sphery: | Li-ion is good for some things, but generally NiMH is great for "normal" battery replacement |
| [03:36:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | NiCads are only good if you charge them fully EVERY time you charge them, then use them until they're dead, then repeat the cycle. |
| [03:37:08] | J-e-f-f-A: | I had a Panasonic cordless phone that used the same battery for 6 years because I didn't let my wife hang up the phone to charge until it was beeping that it was dead. |
| [03:37:10] | sphery: | high-rez: yeah, I've seen that type of issue with some USB implmentations (that's why I would never trust a USB capture device) |
| [03:37:28] | high-rez: | My capture device is USB and its rock solid. |
| [03:37:44] | high-rez: | Just the firggin low bit rate remote interface ;) |
| [03:38:02] | sphery: | USB3 should make it better |
| [03:38:07] | [R]: | my hdpvr is awesome |
| [03:38:08] | sphery: | (no polling required) |
| [03:38:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | Li-ion is great for stuff that's always getting charged/discharged. But if it's left on the charger 'forever' (like a laptop that's always used plugged in instead of on battery), it dies pretty quickly. |
| [03:38:21] | sphery: | of course, we have to wait for the USB 3 mobos and the USB 3 devices, but... |
| [03:38:50] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah, and don't ever drain a Li-Ion completely |
| [03:39:04] | sphery: | (if any cell goes dead, it likely won't ever recharge) |
| [03:39:17] | sphery: | or at least will lose a lot of capacity |
| [03:39:30] | bonelifer: | Can't remember then board manufacturer. But there's one USB3 MB out there. But it's like several hundred dollars. |
| [03:39:40] | sphery: | wow |
| [03:40:01] | sphery: | that would buy me a whole computer (or 1 1/2) |
| [03:40:15] | bonelifer: | I think it was recently released. USB3 isn't on my radar, so i don't remember the details. |
| [03:40:24] | [R]: | http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.32340 |
| [03:40:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: But you'd have a 5Gbps USB port, and nothing to use it with... ;-) |
| [03:40:50] | sphery: | heh |
| [03:41:16] | bonelifer: | pci-e? I only have two pci-e slots. Both are full |
| [03:41:18] | bonelifer: | :) |
| [03:41:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | I'll bet clever is going to buy one... NOT! ;-) |
| [03:42:23] | clever: | J-e-f-f-A: does that mean i can put 5 gigabit ethernet cards on a single usb port now? :P |
| [03:42:56] | sphery: | and only 2 USB ports for a 10Gbps ethernet card |
| [03:42:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | clever: Ah, you're here! ;-) Theoretically, yes... ;-) |
| [03:43:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | Practically, I doubt it. ;-) |
| [03:43:25] | clever: | i cant even get 1 gigabit working right now:P |
| [03:43:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | GBe works great here... |
| [03:43:43] | clever: | the 2nd laptop with giga lost the NIC, so ive got only 100mbit to connect to |
| [03:44:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | Just no jumbo packets currently for me. |
| [03:45:14] | bonelifer: | ah, if you know what you want dealextreme is great. |
| [03:45:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | [R]: Hey, that's not half bad – $42.58 doesn't seem that high... |
| [03:45:39] | [R]: | if it works... |
| [03:46:03] | bonelifer: | only bad thing is the 7 – 14 day wait |
| [03:46:21] | bonelifer: | Newegg is a spoiler of electronics junkies |
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| [03:46:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | [R]: I'm sure it works – it's got a "QC passed" sticker right on it!!!! |
| [03:47:39] | bonelifer: | I recently ordered a 1TB WD Green from Newegg on the 18th late at night. On the 19th around 5pm it arrived on my door step <3's Newegg |
| [03:47:55] | sphery: | nice |
| [03:48:00] | sphery: | do you live in NJ or TN? |
| [03:48:08] | [R]: | J-e-f-f-A: HAHA |
| [03:48:19] | [R]: | bonelifer: how much? |
| [03:48:22] | bonelifer: | I live in Arkansas, Hot Springs, So the Memphis depo was close |
| [03:48:30] | sphery: | ah, cool |
| [03:48:31] | bonelifer: | hrrmm let me look |
| [03:49:45] | bonelifer: | HD 1T|WD WD10EARS 64M 5K, 89.99 + FREE shipping |
| [03:50:11] | [R]: | i got mine for like 70 |
| [03:50:21] | [R]: | although it was an EADS |
| [03:50:32] | sphery: | I just got a 2GB for $139.99 |
| [03:50:46] | sphery: | but it's a Seagate, so many wouldn't trust it :) |
| [03:50:51] | wagnerrp: | hope it was large than that |
| [03:50:51] | [R]: | gb? |
| [03:50:58] | sphery: | TB, even :) |
| [03:51:02] | bonelifer: | My soon to be video 1TB WD is an eads, can't remember the price. |
| [03:51:36] | bonelifer: | so many Paypal, Newegg, EBay receipts... :) |
| [03:51:53] | bonelifer: | And at least 1 Amazon receipt. |
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| [03:52:47] | sphery: | Hitachi 2TB for 149.99 after $20 MIR at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145276 |
| [03:53:00] | sphery: | what's EADS? |
| [03:53:09] | high-rez: | airbus ? |
| [03:53:10] | high-rez: | ;) |
| [03:53:21] | sphery: | heh, that's all I can think of, too |
| [03:53:29] | [R]: | sphery: model number on the WD |
| [03:53:47] | sphery: | oh, thought it was some tech |
| [03:54:11] | sphery: | looks like that's the Green line, right? I thought those were good. |
| [03:54:18] | [R]: | yeah |
| [03:54:26] | [R]: | i'm using it as my main rrecording drive |
| [03:54:30] | sphery: | (especially for Myth, which doesn't need high throughput) |
| [03:54:32] | [R]: | along with 2 random disks i had |
| [03:54:36] | high-rez: | 2010-02–05 19:53:54.892 ~MythContext waiting for threads to exit. |
| [03:54:42] | high-rez: | Gah – back to this again |
| [03:54:52] | sphery: | high-rez: at shut down? |
| [03:54:58] | sphery: | or after playback? |
| [03:55:06] | high-rez: | Changing channels |
| [03:55:24] | high-rez: | A previous build had been rock solid. A recent commit seems to have regressed this behavior |
| [03:55:35] | sphery: | Were you the one I gave the revert timer hack patch to? If so, here's an updated version: http://misc.thirdcontact.com/MythTV/mythtv-79 . . . r_hack.patch |
| [03:55:41] | high-rez: | So yeah, changing from one channel at live playback to a nother channel |
| [03:55:51] | high-rez: | Nope, wasn't me. |
| [03:55:53] | bonelifer: | eads is the last letters in the 1TB WD Green 7200RPM models, EARS is 5400RPM |
| [03:56:10] | sphery: | my ears aren't nearly that fast |
| [03:56:43] | sphery: | high-rez: you may find that the patch I linked fixes it for you |
| [03:56:50] | high-rez: | Interesting. |
| [03:56:54] | high-rez: | I'll give it a run |
| [03:57:15] | sphery: | and if you do and you'd like to do some testing for me and you can get Qt 4.6.1, I'd be very appreciative :) |
| [03:57:17] | bonelifer: | +sphery, ever clean your "ears" out. :) Might be the wax |
| [03:57:26] | sphery: | hehe |
| [03:57:51] | bonelifer: | well at least that's there stated spead. I'm not to worried. |
| [03:58:17] | sphery: | high-rez: but if you do want to do the testing, I need CPU usage on Qt 4.5.x and Qt 4.6.x, so don't upgrade to 4.6.x, yet :) |
| [03:58:27] | high-rez: | interesiting |
| [03:58:29] | bonelifer: | If I was I would of went with an atx board and 10,000RPM scsi drives. |
| [03:58:36] | high-rez: | i can probably give 4.6 a try tomorrow |
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| [03:58:50] | high-rez: | I'm a gentoo luser, so needless upgrades don't bother me at all ;) |
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| [03:59:39] | sphery: | I just need to know if with the patch I linked applied, you see the 7%/14% CPU usage issue (on main menu and Watch Recordings screens) on Qt 4.5.x. If so, then I would love to know if upgrading to Qt 4.6.x fixes the CPU usage (so it's down to 0–3% usage). |
| [03:59:44] | sphery: | high-rez: ^^^ |
| [04:00:20] | high-rez: | i think you did a backwards diff ;) |
| [04:00:46] | sphery: | high-rez: also, if you're not on current trunk, you might want to try just svn up'ing--as I think there was a fix for the timer hack that may have affected that |
| [04:00:53] | sphery: | high-rez: are you trunk? |
| [04:01:01] | high-rez: | Yes I am |
| [04:01:10] | sphery: | it should apply without issue to trunk |
| [04:01:16] | sphery: | it reverts some changesets that went in |
| [04:01:20] | high-rez: | It aplied without issue, but I had to rename mythtv to mythtv.orig |
| [04:01:27] | high-rez: | e.g. you diffed the versions backwards ;) |
| [04:01:27] | sphery: | (you have to be r23348 or higher) |
| [04:01:37] | high-rez: | Last Changed Rev: 23486 |
| [04:01:58] | sphery: | could have gone into mythtv and done a patch -Np1 :) |
| [04:02:23] | high-rez: | Woh there, my patch-foo isn't so sophisticated. |
| [04:03:07] | high-rez: | dist-cleaned, now doing configure |
| [04:03:11] | sphery: | that's a quilt patch... it does -p1 patches with ".orig" for the original versions |
| [04:03:28] | sphery: | though the Index should have been enough to tell it the real name... |
| [04:03:40] | sphery: | cool. |
| [04:03:43] | sphery: | hope it works |
| [04:03:44] | high-rez: | I alwahys do just -ruN |
| [04:03:47] | high-rez: | Me too |
| [04:03:56] | high-rez: | I ahve plenty oftime to revert before the wife gets home |
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| [04:04:09] | sphery: | and hope you also see 7%/14% CPU usage--until you upgrade to Qt 4.6.x, then I hope you see 0–3% :) |
| [04:04:10] | high-rez: | But she gets mad if I'm playing with stuff when she's home ;) |
| [04:04:20] | high-rez: | 7–14% at idle eh? |
| [04:04:32] | sphery: | and if you do that testing for me, I'll be forever grateful. (Even when I'm dead--I'll be grateful dead.) |
| [04:04:35] | Faithful: | gdm won't start on my mythbuntu box.... using nvidia drivers |
| [04:04:46] | sphery: | high-rez: yeah, likely |
| [04:05:06] | high-rez: | Well hey, i'll give it a test. Can't do 4.6 till tomorrow – but I'll check it all out tonight :) |
| [04:05:09] | high-rez: | for 4.5 |
| [04:05:53] | sphery: | cool... The 7%/14% CPU shouldn't be an issue, though... It's just a busy loop, so if your CPU is doing anything else, you won't see it |
| [04:05:58] | high-rez: | And since I know you're greatful, I'll be the first to bug you about some problems I've seen with the scanner :)) |
| [04:06:17] | mag0o: | sphery: just got the fe to mess up the display again. going to try the first var you mentioned |
| [04:06:24] | sphery: | it's just something inert that a lot of users were whining about, so it got "fixed" (in such a way that it completely broke things for some of us) |
| [04:06:32] | sphery: | mag0o: :( Hope the other works |
| [04:06:38] | sphery: | mag0o: might need both, though |
| [04:06:44] | mag0o: | k |
| [04:07:01] | high-rez: | Mean like poll() without a more agressive sleep timer? |
| [04:07:02] | mag0o: | should i just try both, or see if the first is enough? |
| [04:07:04] | high-rez: | poll loop |
| [04:08:17] | sphery: | mag0o: trying individually would be far more informative :) |
| [04:08:31] | sphery: | but both together might make it work with one fewer test |
| [04:08:47] | sphery: | high-rez: yeah, http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-7618 |
| [04:09:02] | sphery: | basically, all we got was, "This code has been changed in 4.6.x, and the busy-wait has been removed. Thanks for your report" |
| [04:09:11] | mag0o: | ...just tried all 3 combos – none worked =\ |
| [04:09:17] | high-rez: | I can't wait to be able to walk around with a nokia n9000 frontend (on the nokia/qt front : -) |
| [04:09:36] | sphery: | and we really need someone to test the QTimer code with 4.6.x (but I don't get the 7%/14% CPU usage issue, so I can't test it) |
| [04:09:47] | sphery: | mag0o: :( I'm out of ideas, then |
| [04:09:53] | mag0o: | gonna search and see |
| [04:10:10] | sphery: | I'd have to guess it's a driver issue--are there newer drivers available? |
| [04:10:25] | mag0o: | qtimer code? that the thing that was causing issues for me the other day, that you supplied the patch to revert some recent commits? |
| [04:10:46] | sphery: | mag0o: ah, yeah--you were the one I gave it to |
| [04:10:56] | sphery: | btw, here's the updated version: http://misc.thirdcontact.com/MythTV/mythtv-79 . . . r_hack.patch |
| [04:11:07] | sphery: | (we had 2 other commits related to it) |
| [04:11:35] | mag0o: | i'm @ 7–10% cpu, with fe and ff and console |
| [04:11:52] | sphery: | frontend idling on main menu? |
| [04:11:59] | mag0o: | yep |
| [04:12:01] | sphery: | if you close the frontend, do you go down to 0–3%? |
| [04:12:21] | sphery: | (assuming closing the frontend won't restart X for you) |
| [04:12:25] | mag0o: | i have that patch applied right now, if that makes a difference |
| [04:13:25] | mag0o: | cpu didnt change |
| [04:13:28] | sphery: | yeah, with that patch and Qt 4.4.x or 4.5.x, many users (Ubuntu?) would see 7% or 14% CPU usage. With Qt 4.6.x, you shouldn't see much CPU usage at all when idle. |
| [04:13:53] | sphery: | I think--I still need someone who can see the 7%/14% CPU to test with Qt 4.6.x |
| [04:14:17] | high-rez: | i'll let you know about my 4.5.x setup as soon as its done compilinog here |
| [04:14:23] | high-rez: | (gonna go havea smoke while it compiles) |
| [04:14:37] | sphery: | mag0o: ah, if the CPU didn't change that means that your system was doing other stuff, so you weren't seeing the mythfrontend idle CPU usage |
| [04:14:47] | sphery: | high-rez: thanks |
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| [04:15:15] | sphery: | and btw, high-rez, I'm pretty sure you're seeing the same issue with it that mag0o was seeing (and it fixed it for him) |
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| [04:19:00] | maddslacker: | I can't remember where to change the settings to do horizontal fill for all videos |
| [04:19:06] | maddslacker: | anyone know off-hand? |
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| [04:21:18] | rob__: | does anyone know a faster server for trunk updates then the current one in the us? us.autobuilds always seems so slow for me. |
| [04:21:19] | high-rez: | 25202 root 20 0 358m 211m 26m S 13 10.8 0:05.93 mythfrontend |
| [04:21:31] | high-rez: | Alrightt good news,its sucking down cpu at idle |
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| [04:22:25] | sphery: | maddslacker: there's a "Video Aspect Override" but it will tell Myth to always play all videos as if they're that aspect |
| [04:22:42] | high-rez: | 13–14% at the main screen |
| [04:22:43] | sphery: | maddslacker: it's in Playback settings |
| [04:22:56] | maddslacker: | sphery, I think that's what I need, as I have to horizintally stretch every video |
| [04:23:03] | ** maddslacker looks ** | |
| [04:23:16] | high-rez: | I'll upgrade to 4.6 tomorrow ;) |
| [04:23:26] | sphery: | high-rez: nice, that means you're affected... If the CPU usage with that patch applied goes back down to 0–3% at idle with 4.6, that will be great news |
| [04:24:01] | maddslacker: | sphery, in mythfrontend or myth-setup? |
| [04:24:02] | high-rez: | Any pitfalls I should be aware of with 4.6 ? |
| [04:24:22] | sphery: | maddslacker: actually, right under that is a Zoom setting--that's probably what you want |
| [04:24:35] | sphery: | high-rez: shouldn't be--it should actually fix a couple of issues that you can still see in 4.5.x |
| [04:24:45] | maddslacker: | yeah, I remember unchecking it a while ago, and can't for the life of me find it now |
| [04:24:46] | maddslacker: | grrr |
| [04:25:00] | maddslacker: | anyway, mythfrontend..setup, or myth-setup? |
| [04:25:10] | high-rez: | Mind you I've one of those bad users who doesn't have a window manager |
| [04:25:12] | ** high-rez hides ** | |
| [04:25:38] | sphery: | maddslacker: it's several pages into the TV Settings|Playback section... On General Playback (2/2), IIRC |
| [04:25:48] | maddslacker: | I'll look, thanks |
| [04:26:00] | sphery: | which may just be page 2 :) |
| [04:26:25] | sphery: | high-rez: I'll ignore that fact for now if you do my testing :) |
| [04:27:04] | sphery: | high-rez: are you using ubuntu? |
| [04:27:09] | maddslacker: | sphery, found it :D |
| [04:27:10] | high-rez: | nah, gentoo |
| [04:27:15] | maddslacker: | do I need to restart frontend? |
| [04:27:27] | sphery: | high-rez: ah, cool--they probably have an ebuild for 4.6.1, right? |
| [04:27:35] | sphery: | maddslacker: shouldn't need to |
| [04:27:51] | high-rez: | sphery: yep |
| [04:27:59] | high-rez: | Not that I actually expect the ebuild to work :) |
| [04:28:06] | sphery: | nice... that will make it easy for you to test (other than the 5hr compile :) |
| [04:28:15] | ** maddslacker is testing ** | |
| [04:28:17] | sphery: | unless you have to fix the ebuild :) |
| [04:28:17] | maddslacker: | \o/ |
| [04:28:21] | high-rez: | (the quality of ebuilds lately has gone downhill) |
| [04:28:24] | maddslacker: | no more setting every time |
| [04:28:35] | maddslacker: | thanks sphery I was going insane looking for it! |
| [04:28:38] | sphery: | high-rez: did you get a chance to test the livetv channel changing? |
| [04:28:43] | sphery: | maddslacker: cool, enjoy :) |
| [04:28:47] | high-rez: | playing with it now |
| [04:29:03] | sphery: | cool... please let me know if you see issues with it even with that patch applied |
| [04:29:09] | sphery: | (or feel free to report success, too :) |
| [04:29:20] | high-rez: | i proably should have built it as a debug build |
| [04:29:26] | high-rez: | to give you a stack trace |
| [04:29:29] | high-rez: | not that I expect one ;) |
| [04:29:51] | sphery: | if it's the same issue mag0o saw, I saw his stack trace (which is why I recommended he revert those changes) |
| [04:30:09] | maddslacker: | mythtv has been working great for me for a while, I just need to upgrade my tuner and vid card and then bye-bye comcast dvr :D |
| [04:30:22] | sphery: | so if it is the same, I won't need a stacktrace--just the CPU usage numbers :) |
| [04:30:22] | maddslacker: | mythvideo too, to be fair |
| [04:30:36] | sphery: | and it's possible that the CPU usage numbers will change with a debug build |
| [04:30:45] | sphery: | so release is probably better |
| [04:30:46] | high-rez: | well so far so good |
| [04:30:53] | sphery: | cool |
| [04:30:56] | high-rez: | trunk has been really good to me so far |
| [04:31:09] | high-rez: | honestly, better then 22-fixes ;) |
| [04:31:19] | sphery: | yeah, since the Qt4 port and mythui port, it's been good |
| [04:31:26] | maddslacker: | my 0.22 has been super stable on slackware 13 |
| [04:31:32] | sphery: | and with the shorter releases, we're not backporting as much |
| [04:31:54] | sphery: | wonder what our next major conversion will be |
| [04:31:55] | high-rez: | yeah the shorter releases (as a user) have been much appreciated :D |
| [04:32:11] | sphery: | the mythui OSD seems like it should be relatively painless (since it's being developed in a separate branch) |
| [04:32:34] | sphery: | I have plans for an embedded MySQL change... :) That will likely be painful even if I do it in a separate branch. :) |
| [04:32:58] | high-rez: | yeah, uhm, no comment on mysql ;) |
| [04:33:00] | wagnerrp: | an understatement |
| [04:33:49] | high-rez: | hey man, not that it's worth anything, but you've got my permission to push your patch to trunk. :P |
| [04:33:59] | sphery: | heh |
| [04:34:19] | sphery: | I'm trying to get permission from someone else before doing that |
| [04:34:28] | sphery: | (as it just reverts a different patch) |
| [04:34:45] | maddslacker: | sphery, like what amarok does? |
| [04:34:46] | sphery: | (assuming you mean the one I linked/you just applied) |
| [04:34:57] | sphery: | maddslacker: not sure... what do they do? |
| [04:35:25] | maddslacker: | embedded mysql...heh |
| [04:35:33] | maddslacker: | don't know beyond that |
| [04:35:34] | sphery: | ah, then, yeah |
| [04:35:53] | sphery: | the idea is to make a mythdataserver or whatever that has all the data and manages it using embedded mysql |
| [04:35:55] | maddslacker: | except they had to add remote full-mysql after the fact |
| [04:35:58] | wagnerrp: | actually sphery, couldnt you just subclass the mysql connection class to something internal, shift all the current sql calls over to that, and then make whatever changes you want to the internal class? |
| [04:36:02] | sphery: | then clients won't talk to the DB, they'll talk to mythdataserver |
| [04:36:25] | maddslacker: | my biggest heartburn getting mine working initially was the mysql part |
| [04:36:34] | wagnerrp: | which would handle the database, scheduling, mfd, ... |
| [04:36:36] | sphery: | wagnerrp: that would work for the C++ code, but bindings/MythWeb/etc. will still need access to data |
| [04:37:15] | wagnerrp: | sphery: they could all do the same thing |
| [04:37:17] | sphery: | so it's mainly a problem of coming up with a protocol for passing data requests and data |
| [04:37:33] | sphery: | only one process will be able to actually talk to the DB |
| [04:37:39] | maddslacker: | thanks again for the help, time to queue up some tv shows in mythvideo :D |
| [04:37:40] | sphery: | so only mythdataserver could |
| [04:37:40] | wagnerrp: | i mean ive already abstracted ALL use of mysql away from the user in the bindings |
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| [04:37:47] | sphery: | embedded mysql is not multi-user |
| [04:37:54] | sphery: | (at least not client/server) |
| [04:38:05] | wagnerrp: | i would remove mysql all together and it wouldnt affect the scripts at all |
| [04:38:31] | sphery: | yeah, only problem would be your inability to access the data (because mythdataserver is accessing it) |
| [04:39:07] | bobgill: | did some regular updates, before I post on my distro's forum thought i'd ask here, running mythfrontend soon as I start playback of a recording i'm getting this: http://pastebin.ca/1787764 built ffmpeg and mplayer just fine, all hd video files playback using vdpau |
| [04:39:07] | sphery: | btw, wagnerrp , I still haven't seen it coming (the ending of Fringe) |
| [04:39:08] | wagnerrp: | im saying nothing outside the bindings directly accesses the mysqldb libs |
| [04:39:14] | sphery: | I did see Manhatan, though :) |
| [04:39:39] | wagnerrp: | so i could internally translate everything for the user |
| [04:39:40] | sphery: | wagnerrp: right, but I'm saying that only a single process will be able to use the embedded mysql database |
| [04:40:08] | sphery: | so I'll have to make some data request/passing protocol, then you can use that |
| [04:40:19] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [04:40:19] | sphery: | and then all the python scripts will be good to go |
| [04:40:28] | sphery: | so I think we're saying the same thing |
| [04:40:38] | sphery: | I just missed what you were saying |
| [04:41:04] | sphery: | bobgill: were you using VDPAU before? |
| [04:41:16] | bobgill: | yup, just fine |
| [04:41:33] | sphery: | are you sure you have the nvidia drivers installed properly, etc? |
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| [04:41:41] | sphery: | can you use vdpau in, for example, mplayer? |
| [04:41:41] | wagnerrp: | i mean i just have to swap out one class for another that uses this new database protocol, and the rest of the code is none the wiser |
| [04:41:58] | sphery: | wagnerrp: that's great--and /very/ different from the Perl bindings :) |
| [04:42:17] | bobgill: | yup, i just fired up a few .mkv's with mplayer and they play fine, output states it is using vdpau |
| [04:42:31] | sphery: | bobgill: this is trunk MythTV? |
| [04:43:10] | bobgill: | naw, it's stable 0.22 |
| [04:43:27] | sphery: | are you sure it's /still/ 0.22? :) |
| [04:43:31] | sphery: | mythbackend --version |
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| [04:44:18] | bobgill: | http://pastebin.ca/1787769 |
| [04:44:44] | bobgill: | oh crap i have to rebuild it with vdpau support is that it |
| [04:44:49] | sphery: | ok, not trunk |
| [04:45:03] | sphery: | bobgill: on the bright side--since you have to rebuild it, anyway, switch to 0.22-fixes :) |
| [04:45:21] | sphery: | is that one from the tarball? |
| [04:45:38] | sphery: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ (under the "Stable: If you'd like to get the 0.22 stable branch, do this: " part) |
| [04:45:41] | bobgill: | nope i have it from my distro package manager |
| [04:45:57] | sphery: | which distro? |
| [04:46:11] | sphery: | tags/release-0–22 says it's the release version |
| [04:46:18] | bobgill: | arch linux |
| [04:46:23] | sphery: | we've had a bunch of fixes in branches/release-0-22-fixes since then |
| [04:46:32] | sphery: | I think arch has -fixes available... |
| [04:46:40] | sphery: | though I admit to having very little knowledge of Arch |
| [04:46:45] | bobgill: | i just noticed my desktop (fe) has 0.22–5 and backend still on 0.22–3 wonder if that's it |
| [04:46:52] | bobgill: | because i just did a huge catch-up update on both boxes |
| [04:46:57] | bobgill: | but backend still working |
| [04:47:09] | sphery: | they should work together |
| [04:47:19] | sphery: | but it's better to have the same version on both |
| [04:47:29] | sphery: | on your frontend do you get the same branch? |
| [04:47:36] | sphery: | with --version |
| [04:47:38] | bobgill: | yes |
| [04:47:52] | bobgill: | yep it's the same |
| [04:47:55] | sphery: | hmmm |
| [04:48:05] | sphery: | -fixes would be much better/more stable |
| [04:48:21] | bobgill: | ok i will try fixes branch.. will let this update finish and try it then |
| [04:48:28] | sphery: | might want to ask ja ms when he's around (space to keep from beeping him) |
| [04:48:28] | bobgill: | thanks for your help |
| [04:48:36] | bobgill: | ok |
| [04:48:37] | sphery: | good luck |
| [04:48:52] | sphery: | if you know how to get -fixes, I guess you're good to go, though |
| [04:49:22] | bobgill: | for sure i will try it.. thx again, bbl |
| [04:49:26] | npm: | does anybody know how to light up the optical SPDIF output on Nvidia sound included w/ ASUS e.g. M2N68-VM & Â M3N78-VM. Device shows up as card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: VT1708B Digital [VT1708B Digital]" and you can output to the device, but no light comes out the optical port. Others seem to have same problem on other distros: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-983458.html "Optical S/PDIF does not light up" (and yes i' |
| [04:51:54] | bonelifer: | Uhmm, not sure, but did you try to set the audio in the BIOS to HD Audio, think I remember seeing that for some ASUS board. |
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| [04:55:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | npm: I had the same problem on my M3N78-VM board – didn't figure it out... was trying to get Spdif working at a friend's house – but I had never done it before, so I chalked it up to 'user error'... |
| [04:56:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | And IIRC, I had the bios set for HD audio... LSPCI saw it, etc... |
| [04:56:17] | bonelifer: | Unmuted in ALSAmixer? |
| [04:56:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | bonelifer: Yep, did that too. |
| [04:56:42] | bonelifer: | Well then a bad board then. |
| [04:56:42] | npm: | yes to all of above too. |
| [04:56:47] | npm: | seems to be a bug actually |
| [04:56:49] | npm: | upstream |
| [04:56:53] | npm: | see the link |
| [04:57:21] | npm: | the output seems to be configured as an input. something in windows allows it to be switched but not linux |
| [04:58:34] | npm: | note that other boards, like ASUS_M4A78T-E have optical out that is on by default |
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| [04:59:24] | J-e-f-f-A: | npm: Reading that thread, it seems there's a switch to flip between HDMI audio and SPDIF audio – and that it works via HDMI in Linux, but apparently not SPDIF... |
| [05:00:27] | npm: | thus bug, but was wondering if anybody knows if or when fixed since the a/v community might be using those boards for mythtv |
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| [05:04:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | npm – seems Win7 had the same problem until Asus/Via released an updated driver: "For anybody else with this problem be sure to use the VIA control panel, SPDIF cannot be enabled in Windows." |
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| [05:06:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | npm: I'm reading this thread now – seems very relevant: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=46545 |
| [05:10:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | npm: So far I'm seeing that people have gotten spdif working from the motherboard spdif connector, but not the back panel... |
| [05:11:13] | npm: | aha, i was wondering why they had an extra spdif connector header on the mobo |
| [05:12:25] | bonelifer: | just need to purchase the module. luckily it comes with optical and coax connectors. at least the one I bought did. |
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| [05:13:04] | bonelifer: | Thinks about purchasing the COM port module as well. Not sure yet. |
| [05:13:23] | npm: | i guess i need to buy one of these http://cgi.ebay.com/ASUS-SPDIF-OPTICAL-COAXIA . . . t_500wt_1182 |
| [05:13:54] | bonelifer: | Looks like the one I bought. |
| [05:13:54] | npm: | i got a 3rd party lpt and com port brackets already |
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| [05:14:36] | bonelifer: | Not sure if I'll use a 3rd party IR module yet. Will need to see how reliable the iMon one is |
| [05:15:13] | HypnoMadic: | Hi – I just compiled the latest trunk and now I can't see the currently highlighted menu item, on another note, my head hurts now from where my wife clobbered me... |
| [05:15:35] | bonelifer: | I believe I'll need to "Dremil" the S/PDIF bracket if I do buy the com port as it's already eating up one pci slot |
| [05:15:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | npm: Gee, if you do, and you get it working, let me know. I haven't ventured into HD Audio on my myth boxes yet – still using sterio audio on all my frontends... |
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| [05:17:25] | bonelifer: | Luckily the pci bracket is screwed to the pcb, so I won't have to worry about screwing up the board. |
| [05:20:10] | npm: | bonelifer: does the optical port on asus mobos acts as a separate device "VT1708B Digital" on the card, wheras the mobo spdif is from "VT1708B Analog" that feeds the D/A converters?? |
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| [05:20:57] | bonelifer: | not sure. I just bought the board and have been waiting on parts. So I haven't got that far with the research on that. |
| [05:21:55] | npm: | on my M4A78T-E, i can drive the a separate audio stream to device 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog] and another to device 1: VT1708S Digital [VT1708S Digital] |
| [05:22:10] | bonelifer: | |
| [05:22:10] | bonelifer: | ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO |
| [05:22:40] | npm: | ah that's the update to the M4A78T-E |
| [05:23:24] | npm: | with the radeon hd3400 graphics that are a smidge slower than my hd3300 |
| [05:23:44] | npm: | both quite awesome boards imho |
| [05:24:29] | bonelifer: | just got the ASUS 1GB GT-220 pci-e card in a few days ago |
| [05:25:02] | npm: | onboard graphics are good enough for me |
| [05:25:17] | bonelifer: | for VDPAU |
| [05:26:11] | bonelifer: | May not need it but I want to semi-future proof this thing as I will not have this kind of money again. |
| [05:27:17] | bonelifer: | that and having those extra CPU cycles means I can run some extra stuff in the background and this is a mixed BE/FE |
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| [05:33:05] | npm: | i figure when i run out of juice i'll get a graphics card. haven't needed one yet, it's plenty fast. |
| [05:34:04] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I just don't get why it's building for building or car for car... mass is mass. |
| [05:34:09] | npm: | i hope they integrate vdpau on a mobo so when i build an htpc the tech will be ready |
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| [05:36:01] | bonelifer: | it'd be nice if there were implementations of vdpau for non-nvidia cards |
| [05:36:12] | bonelifer: | especially integrated. |
| [05:36:32] | [R]: | well if another card supported the features... |
| [05:36:38] | sphery: | npm: I think you can get mobos with vdpau-compatible integrated gpu's |
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| [05:37:12] | [R]: | s/i think/ |
| [05:37:14] | bonelifer: | I mean I have 4GB of system ram and could up it higher. |
| [05:37:25] | bonelifer: | so shared memory isn't a problem |
| [05:37:26] | [R]: | any ion motherboard has an integrated gpu |
| [05:37:33] | sphery: | [R]: thanks for the confirmation :) |
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| [05:37:41] | teknopagan: | evening, folks |
| [05:37:42] | wagnerrp: | sphery: at least theyre not trying to 'destroy' some nondescript 'energy' with a 'hydrogen bomb' |
| [05:37:44] | [R]: | of course the regex parser is totally gonna fail on that one |
| [05:37:47] | [R]: | but you all get the point |
| [05:38:02] | teknopagan: | got my new FE set up, except for lirc |
| [05:38:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | npm: your  M3N78-VM supports VDPAU... it's an NVidia 8300 GPU |
| [05:38:38] | teknopagan: | anybody know where there's a decent lirc setup guide? |
| [05:38:52] | wagnerrp: | s/8300/8200/ |
| [05:38:57] | sphery: | wagnerrp: what? that wouldn't work? I thought hydrogens destroyed electromagnets? |
| [05:39:37] | wagnerrp: | well the energy has to go somewhere, it wont just disappear |
| [05:43:39] | sphery: | Well, it's not like they made conserving energy a law. It may be the Green thing to do, but it's still non-binding. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_United_Nati . . . ence#Outcome |
| [05:48:33] | teknopagan: | I'm running opensuse 11.2 as the OS for my FE, but I'm having a heck of a time finding good documentation for lirc on opensuse |
| [05:50:45] | teknopagan: | I have my .lircd and /etc/lircd.conf from the old FE, but I still need to figure out how to get lircd working |
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| [05:56:37] | teknopagan: | anybody? I know LIRC is no fun, but it's all I've got left to work out before my FE is totally set |
| [05:58:18] | teknopagan: | I installed lirc 0.85 from the opensuse repos, including: liblirc_client0, lirc, lirc-devel, lirc-kmp-default, and lirc-remotes |
| [06:00:37] | bonelifer: | I think it's a lack of Gentoo use. This is actually the first time in all my searching online about mythtv, that's I've seen someone use something other than Debian(or Ubuntu) or Knoppix or Fedora or Arch. |
| [06:01:28] | oobe: | teknopagan, you just need to overwrite the lircd.conf with your old one put the old lircrc in ~/.mythtv and also your old hardware.conf then restart the daemon |
| [06:01:43] | teknopagan: | hardware.conf? |
| [06:01:48] | teknopagan: | is that in /etc ? |
| [06:01:51] | oobe: | i cant be suse specific on the paths |
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| [06:02:03] | oobe: | yes /etc/ or /etc/lirc |
| [06:02:24] | [R]: | hardware.conf is a debian/ubuntu specfic thing |
| [06:02:36] | [R]: | not lirc |
| [06:02:39] | oobe: | really oh ok never mind then |
| [06:02:50] | oobe: | i didnt know that |
| [06:03:26] | oobe: | i copied mine from a ubuntu install to a different distro :P didnt know it wasnt necessary |
| [06:04:08] | oobe: | anyway teknopagan once you got those configs in place starting lircd with a native init script should get it going |
| [06:04:29] | [R]: | hardware.conf is a config file for the debian/ubuntu init script |
| [06:04:35] | [R]: | nothing to do with lirc actually |
| [06:06:11] | teknopagan: | No dice – rclirc start returns "Error: no device found" |
| [06:06:47] | teknopagan: | meanwhile, dmesg shows "[ 9265.571073] lirc_streamzap[-1]: Streamzap, Inc. Streamzap Remote Control on usb4:5 attached" when I hook up the receiver |
| [06:06:48] | oobe: | you might need to rebuild the modules for the remote |
| [06:07:24] | teknopagan: | maybe I just need a reboot...I remember there being some reboot silliness last time I set this up |
| [06:07:28] | teknopagan: | back in a few |
| [06:07:31] | oobe: | or specify the driver with lircd --driver=somthing |
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| [06:11:38] | wagnerrp: | so sphery, you didnt see that ending coming? |
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| [06:22:29] | wagnerrp: | isnt mythcommflag only supposed to run once a day? |
| [06:25:29] | wagnerrp: | looks like ive run it six times in the past 25 hours |
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| [06:26:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: doesn't it run for each recording??? |
| [06:27:05] | wagnerrp: | erm... mythfilldatabase |
| [06:27:16] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: are you confusing it with '^^^ exactly. ;-) |
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| [07:00:28] | sphery: | wagnerrp: figured out the end that was unrelated to the episode story, but not the episode story end |
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| [07:01:09] | sphery: | but I didn't figure it out until she made it work |
| [07:01:32] | sphery: | (during the episode story) |
| [07:08:20] | wagnerrp: | well they had alluded to it during the virus episode |
| [07:15:47] | sphery: | iamlindoro: were you formerly the CEO of Sun Microsystems? http://twitter.com/OpenJonathan/status/8620937722 |
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| [07:18:50] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Yeah, they pretty much told us in the last 2 episodes of season 1... It was just trying to figure out when the people on the show would realize it. |
| [07:19:30] | sphery: | as a matter of fact, when I was talking to a friend who wasn't sure whether to catch up on Fringe, I mentioned that season 2 should be a lot better because it will explore that fact. |
| [07:19:42] | sphery: | (this was at the end of S1) |
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| [08:03:39] | wagnerrp: | so Jim Beckett is clueless... |
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| [13:06:57] | lbt: | hi – just upgraded to 0.22 and having problems with mythweb. Myth backend seems to be running fine and mythtv-status looks good. However apache keeps craching with a segfault. |
| [13:07:53] | lbt: | I've run an strace and it gives: http://pastebin.com/d16b65ea4 |
| [13:08:43] | lbt: | so I wondered if : write(10, "\253\5\0\0\3REPLACE INTO mythweb_session"..., 1455) = 1455 might be a clue ? |
| [13:21:23] | TauPan: | apache crashing with a segfault can hardly be mythweb's fault |
| [13:28:39] | lbt: | mod_php ? |
| [13:29:51] | lbt: | and TauPan, I didn't say it was mythweb's fault, I said I had a problem with mythweb :) |
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| [14:54:44] | lbt: | FWIW it was a debian bug in libphp5 – thanks for the help though :) |
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| [15:09:10] | BobLfoot: | trying to compile mythtv-0.22 from svn fails at ./configure step for "You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library" ; which is installed ; see http://fpaste.org/O8iN/ for (cat config.ep ; rpm -qa | grep lame) output. Help appreciated. F12_X86_64 |
| [15:09:29] | gbee: | http://miffteevee.co.uk/imagebin/printpress.png |
| [15:10:02] | gbee: | BobLfoot: libmp3lame-devel |
| [15:11:28] | BobLfoot: | gbee: attempting to locate in my fedora and rpmfusion repos |
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| [15:12:19] | gbee: | may be -dev varies from distro to distro |
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| [15:18:30] | BobLfoot: | gbee: think I found it ; it's in atrpms.repo which I need to enable and add |
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| [15:46:37] | BobLfoot: | gbee: I've been round and round this error it's squacking about lame.h which I know is /usr/include/lame/lame.h but which it can't find. Do I need a $INCLUDE variable or something? |
| [15:46:57] | BobLfoot: | s/squacking/squawking/ |
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| [15:50:11] | jolaren: | I've had loads of problems to install anything onto my server.. but now I got a live cd script of the buntu page so I'll try to run mythbuntu on the server.. and then afterwards remove all neccesary packets like a re-t**d |
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| [15:50:46] | BobLfoot: | gbee: nothing wrong with the lame libraries from rpmfusion I jsut needed to export INCLUDE=/usr/include/ to get ./configure to see lame.h and it ran successfully ; thanks for the help |
| [15:50:57] | BobLfoot: | s/jsut/just/ |
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| [16:10:33] | noaXess1: | hi all |
| [16:11:02] | noaXess1: | can't get any progra, information for swiss channels SF1 and SF2.. i use tv_grab_ch_search |
| [16:12:38] | noaXess1: | xmltvid's are C1.sfdrs.ch and C2.sfdrs.ch, are ther seom chances? |
| [16:12:43] | noaXess1: | changes ^ |
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| [16:15:27] | jolaren: | aaaah |
| [16:15:37] | noaXess1: | ?? |
| [16:16:01] | noaXess1: | same problem? |
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| [16:17:27] | noaXess: | back.. |
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| [17:03:27] | HypnoMadic: | Hi – I compiled the latest trunk, but now the selected menu item is invisible. I think this has something to do with it "Failed to query buttonlist state: selectedactive" |
| [17:04:04] | HypnoMadic: | This happens on a TV display as well as with putty/Xming using different painters and different themes |
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| [17:13:14] | wagnerrp: | you must not be following the commit logs very closely |
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| [17:13:50] | BobLfoot: | My first attempt at compiling mythtv from svn has crashed for an error http://fpaste.org/hvkt/ . Any ideas what ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm is it's complaining about? |
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| [17:15:44] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot, http://perldoc.perl.org/ExtUtils/Installed.html ... youre missing a dependency |
| [17:17:12] | BobLfoot: | thanks wagnerrp I'll check it out |
| [17:18:20] | wagnerrp: | HypnoMadic: if you were following commit logs, you would know |
| [17:18:25] | wagnerrp: | HypnoMadic: if you were following trac, you would know |
| [17:18:47] | wagnerrp: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8034 |
| [17:21:59] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I've found a perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker.x86_64 package for my distro bet that has the depencancy in it, what you think? |
| [17:22:18] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: dont know off hand |
| [17:22:50] | BobLfoot: | I'll find out and let you know, after all thats what this compilation experiment is about |
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| [17:29:15] | alan_: | I have a problem getting sound out to my TV. I'm using the onboard audio on my motherboard which works fine if my frontend is connected to the VGA port on my TV and the sound goes to the audio in connected to the VGA port. I added in a new video card (Nvidia G210) and I am now using HDMI. HDMI audio does not work with this card so I connected the HDMI cable to the HDMI2 port on my TV which has stereo inputs connected with it. I bought a cable that goes fr |
| [17:29:16] | alan_: | om the line out on the frontend and splits to the red and white that connects to the tv. No settings that I have tried in my frontend allow audio to work. I have also not found any settings through the TV menu or manual that allow you to enable the stereo audio ports connected with HDMI2. Any suggestions? |
| [17:30:09] | wagnerrp: | i would suggest something... but the wiki is down currently |
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| [17:30:33] | alan_: | I've checked there, before it went down, and found nothing |
| [17:30:37] | wagnerrp: | so i cant find the page explaining what to do |
| [17:30:40] | alan_: | that pertains to my problem |
| [17:30:47] | wagnerrp: | nor can i find the original reference that i got the fix from |
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| [17:31:01] | wagnerrp: | its on one of the nvidia troubleshooting pages |
| [17:31:12] | alan_: | I've searched google and several audio forums, but maybe I'm not searching for the right thing |
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| [17:31:32] | wagnerrp: | effectively, you capture the settings block your TV gives you |
| [17:31:38] | wagnerrp: | chop off the 'options' section |
| [17:31:43] | wagnerrp: | and force feed it to the drivers |
| [17:32:15] | wagnerrp: | if your TV says it supports audio, the sound card will provide audio, even if theres nothing in it |
| [17:32:29] | wagnerrp: | and your tv doesnt have a way to override that stream if it is detected |
| [17:32:55] | alan_: | so the TV is still expecting the sound through the HDMI cable and ignoring the stereo inputs? |
| [17:33:33] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [17:33:40] | wagnerrp: | i had the same problem |
| [17:33:50] | wagnerrp: | and found some blog that explained how to fix it |
| [17:33:51] | alan_: | that's what I suspected, I just couldn't find how to force it |
| [17:33:56] | wagnerrp: | and duplicated that information onto the wiki |
| [17:34:09] | alan_: | I appreciate the confirmation, I will look again once the wiki is back up |
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| [17:35:43] | wagnerrp: | http://analogbit.com/node/23 |
| [17:36:46] | wagnerrp: | just use the linked 'edid_disable_exts' tool |
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| [17:40:31] | jolaren: | Did they add hauppage wintv nova-t 500 to kernel in mythbuntu? it was found on auto :) |
| [17:40:33] | jolaren: | Did they add hauppage wintv nova-t 500 to kernel in mythbuntu? it was found on auto :). |
| [17:40:38] | jolaren: | Ä* |
| [17:40:53] | wagnerrp: | must be drunk, im seeing double |
| [17:41:10] | jolaren: | oh |
| [17:41:54] | bonelifer: | his name is +wagnerrp and he's an online alcoholic. :) |
| [17:42:27] | jolaren: | he gets high on wifi |
| [17:43:20] | HypnoMadic: | wagnerrp: I'm following the SVN logs daily but didn't see it, I might have overlooked it, can you humor me please? |
| [17:43:43] | wagnerrp: | HypnoMadic: the trac link i provided gives an explination |
| [17:44:23] | HypnoMadic: | wagnerrp: Interesting, because I did update all the themes and installed them as well |
| [17:45:08] | wagnerrp: | this one was particularly visible, because it would have rendered all the new themes for the competition non-functional |
| [17:45:22] | wagnerrp: | well not non-functional, but certainly broken |
| [17:45:27] | HypnoMadic: | I did see this with a fallback test in Retro, but am using the latest Blue Abstract and have the issue |
| [17:46:08] | wagnerrp: | Blue Abstract is not an official theme, and would not have been updated with a mythtv update |
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| [17:46:40] | HypnoMadic: | wagnerrp: roger that, I'll switch to a different theme, thanks for helping me understand the issue |
| [17:46:41] | wagnerrp: | its likely the author has not released a post-UI-change version of it |
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| [18:16:39] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: that MakeMaker package solved the issue. make -j 2 in the mythtv directory completes without error now. |
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| [18:45:34] | [R]: | i love how myth always puts "record on any channel" shows at a lower priority |
| [18:45:43] | [R]: | it like KNOW those are my stupid shows that are "nice" to have recorded but aren't essential |
| [18:48:28] | jamesd_: | [R], add another tuner.. so your shows will get recorded |
| [18:48:50] | [R]: | well yeah, i'm debating it |
| [18:48:57] | [R]: | but i can't justify the $35+ for a pvr 150 |
| [18:49:02] | [R]: | and like i said... they aren't essential |
| [18:49:22] | [R]: | i'm just making a statement on how myth like reads my mind |
| [18:52:12] | jolaren: | Still gettin "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'jolaren.no.ip.org' (111)" |
| [18:56:55] | jolaren: | strange-o |
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| [19:04:10] | jolaren: | i've changed the looped ip to the right one etc |
| [19:04:13] | jolaren: | hm |
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| [19:25:36] | jolaren: | What does this mean? Partital lock? |
| [19:26:04] | jolaren: | And when trying to change channel "you should have received a channel by now.." |
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| [19:26:39] | [R]: | it means it didnt tune fully |
| [19:26:40] | [R]: | check the backend |
| [19:28:20] | jolaren: | i should re-tune channels or what? |
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| [19:32:02] | jolaren: | [R]; ?:/ |
| [19:32:34] | [R]: | what? |
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| [19:35:34] | jolaren: | [R]; I'm trying to get the error away |
| [19:35:40] | jolaren: | But it continues to tell me I have a partial lock |
| [19:35:43] | jolaren: | Dno what that means even |
| [19:35:54] | [R]: | i just told you |
| [19:35:59] | [R]: | [12:26:39] [R] it means it didnt tune fully |
| [19:40:36] | jolaren: | yer I understand.. I'll try to fix that |
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| [19:43:05] | sid3windr: | yay, my .21-fixes BE crashes daily now |
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| [19:43:28] | wagnerrp: | any reason its not a 0.22-fixes BE? |
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| [19:53:00] | sender: | hello, I'd like to add a feature to mythweb: an configurable link next to the titles under listings. The link would schedule the recording of this program with a certain set of settings (highest prio for me: user jobs). Advantages are: no need to go into details screen, and coming back from the details screen having to navigate to a certain timeframe again. Not too hard to pull off I thing. Can anyone give me a hand where to start? |
| [19:53:18] | sid3windr: | wagnerrp: yes, I haven't had the time to upgrade and am waiting a bit longer on debian-multimedia packages ;) |
| [19:54:01] | zephead: | Has anybody had success with the comcast Pace DC50X DTA boxes? I recently got a USB-UIRT and cannot get it to transmit anything to the DTA... It works (albeit marginally) with my motorola DCT2224 |
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| [19:57:53] | alan_: | wagnerrp: I want to thank you very much. The link, and now that I found your wiki entry have worked completely. I have sound again! |
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| [20:36:05] | zephead: | Has anybody had success with the free comcast Pace DC50X DTA boxes? |
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| [20:57:31] | sphery: | sender: you should talk to kormoc about it when he's around... Also note that there's never a reason to "go into details screen, and coming back from the details screen having to navigate to a certain timeframe again"... Just middle click or Ctrl-click or Shift-click to get a new browser tab or window for the details and leave the listings page up in the current tab/window. |
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| [20:58:13] | sphery: | (not to say that your idea is without merit--just saying that most of us just use tabs so we don't lose our place in listings/upcoming recordings, etc.) |
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| [21:29:45] | daum: | is there a way to setup mythtv's backend from a remote machine? or do i need to have X installed on the backend machine? |
| [21:30:43] | clever: | daum: just use X11 forwarding |
| [21:30:52] | daum: | clever, oo good call |
| [21:36:26] | sender: | sphery: thanks. Yes, I also tab vigorously, but my moms – who I built this system for – isn't keeping up with tabs at all ;) This idea would also solve the issue that one always needs to set what user jobs will run (I couldnt find a permanent setting for this). (I need 2 user jobs to up the recordings to S3 e.g.) |
| [21:39:21] | sphery: | yeah, we need to add support for named recording rule "templates" into MythTV proper, too |
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| [21:39:58] | sphery: | the main reason MythWeb doesn't yet have anything like that is because we've been planning to put support into mythbackend/mythfrontend and MythWeb would then just use that support rather than inventing its own |
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| [21:40:30] | wagnerrp: | creating a rule based off a programinfo string? |
| [21:40:31] | sphery: | kormoc would be able to give you a better idea whether he'd accept something like you propose in the interim |
| [21:41:31] | sphery: | no, setting values for specific recording rule settings (like start early/end late/user jobs/commflagging/recgroup/recording profile/...) and saving them so you can just choose the template to apply when creating a new rule |
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| [21:42:12] | wagnerrp: | i mean in order for mythweb to use it, it would either have to show up in mythprotocol, or the xml server |
| [21:42:55] | wagnerrp: | or would it independently load the template from the database, before creating a rule on its own |
| [21:43:22] | sphery: | it would use proto or xml--but we still have to even create the support for it in mythfrontend/mythbackend first |
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| [21:44:19] | sphery: | basically, if done properly, it would do what you say--just take a programinfo and we'd create the rule and apply the "Default" template |
| [21:44:39] | bjd: | so, suppose i want to add a dvb-s to my box which already has dvb-t – any gotchas i should look out for? |
| [21:44:47] | sphery: | or would allow specifying the template name + programinfo to allow using a different template |
| [21:45:04] | sphery: | bjd: mainly just note that you'll need a separate video source |
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| [21:45:28] | bjd: | cool, nothing major then |
| [21:45:37] | sphery: | shouldn't be |
| [21:45:59] | sphery: | bjd: and check out http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DVB-S |
| [21:47:36] | bjd: | cool, ta |
| [21:48:00] | ** bjd goes to plan hardware for myth setup for the new flat ** | |
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| [22:03:02] | egghead: | is there a list of keyboard commands for the internal player? cant find one googling |
| [22:04:02] | [R]: | you mean like keys.txt? |
| [22:04:18] | [R]: | theres also the edit keys menu |
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| [22:05:40] | wagnerrp: | theres also a Keybindings page on the wiki |
| [22:05:58] | egghead: | R, /usr/share/doc/mythv... keys.txt, yup no help there |
| [22:06:26] | wagnerrp: | http://mythtv.org/wiki/Keybindings |
| [22:07:03] | egghead: | wanner, i looked there too, but no key map for internal player, ie a list of command keys, instead of trial and error to find them |
| [22:07:24] | egghead: | wangner, ill take a look thanks |
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| [22:13:47] | egghead: | <+wagnerrp> thanks, dont know how i missed it |
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| [23:18:35] | daum: | i'm trying to setup myth and i'm using X forwarding to do everything on the main server. anytime i try to start up mythfrontend it is saying the backend is not running, yet the mythbackend is |
| [23:18:45] | sender: | Is there already a usable way to stream using flash video from MythTV? It seems that MythFlash is abandoned because "this facility is now being built into MythTV". Any pointers? |
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| [23:24:06] | daum: | it doesn't appear that the backend server is creating the ports |
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| [23:30:57] | daum: | anyone able to help me figure out why my happauge pvr 350 can't seem to output=\ |
| [23:33:20] | WillieDynamite: | im new to mythtv..havent used was thinking about starting. i have a hauppauge 1600. was wondering what would be the best distro to start with? |
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| [23:33:45] | WillieDynamite: | if anyone has any suggestions? |
| [23:34:20] | WillieDynamite: | mythbuntu or mythdora ? |
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| [23:48:24] | daum: | how can i check my card is actually recieving the tv signal? I have it outputting to my TV however the screen is just black and if i change the channel i see the MythTV channel bar....yet no picture or sound |
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| [23:54:02] | sphery: | WillieDynamite: either distro would be a good start... A lot of people choose Mythbuntu. |
| [23:54:43] | WillieDynamite: | yeah im a little familiar with ubuntu so i was leaning towards that one any way |
| [23:54:56] | WillieDynamite: | just wondered if any one was better than the other |
| [23:54:58] | sphery: | daum: sounds like you've set up your system incorrectly and it's recording from the S-Video input or Composite input instead of the tuner or whatever |
| [23:55:18] | daum: | sphery, ah how do i check out what it is recording from? |
| [23:55:19] | sphery: | WillieDynamite: if you know *buntu better, then Mythbuntu is definitely the way to go |
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| [23:55:48] | sphery: | daum: go into your Input Connections in mythtv-setup and ensure you've associated the video source with the proper input |
| [23:55:53] | trumee: | gus, does qt need to be built with opengl support in order to compile mythtv? |
| [23:55:58] | WillieDynamite: | thanks sphery |
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| [23:56:29] | sphery: | daum: you may also need to "clear out" all of the capture card setup with the capture card portion of http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [23:56:36] | daum: | sphery, maybe my capture device is on the wrong one? |
| [23:56:37] | trumee: | i am trying to build mythtv in scratchbox for N900. |
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| [23:56:59] | daum: | sphery, is there a way to tell which /dev/videoX it should be? |
| [23:56:59] | sphery: | trumee: it might--I don't think we test for it, but we may have some assumptions |
| [23:57:09] | trumee: | the build failed with an error -lGL not found |
| [23:57:18] | sphery: | trumee: if so, we'd likely accept patches to fix the build for no-GL |
| [23:57:47] | trumee: | sphery: i am now compiling qt so it doesnt have GL support to begin with, hoping mythtv wont be looking for -lGL |
| [23:58:32] | trumee: | sphery: i did try to compile mythtv with GL disabled, but still -lGL appeared during the compilation |
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