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| [00:02:44] | k_ross: | clever: you said i could just delete /etc/hostname, and it would get it from dhcp, but it doesn't seem to be working. i have this in my dhcpd.conf: host bedroom { hardware ethernet 00:30:18:a0:0f:bc; fixed-address 192.168.1.7; } |
| [00:03:10] | clever: | k_ross: that also depends on the code within the initrd |
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| [00:04:24] | BobLfoot: | error: MythTV is using all input, but there are no active recordings? Nice error myth, but how to resolve? |
| [00:05:13] | BobLfoot: | Could not connecto to the master backend server — is it running? Is the IP address set for it in the setup program correct? |
| [00:05:16] | k_ross: | i don't have any custom scripts in the initrd, just modified the config file and reran update-initramfs |
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| [00:05:41] | PaulWay: | Here we go with trying to get minimyth working... |
| [00:05:59] | BobLfoot: | Beats the ??? out of me. I've been reading wiki after wiki but don't have a clue if I'm even close to getting this myth box running |
| [00:06:27] | kormoc: | BobLfoot: restart the backend(s)? |
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| [00:06:42] | clever: | k_ross: the default ones in ubuntu handle it automaticaly for me |
| [00:06:47] | clever: | k_ross: i havent dug int how much |
| [00:06:55] | BobLfoot: | kormoc: ??restart the backend ?? you mean rerun mythtv setup for the 3rd time? |
| [00:07:23] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: if you dont know what the backend is, you havent read anythign about mythtv |
| [00:07:39] | wagnerrp: | s/anything/anything worthwhile/ |
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| [00:07:51] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
| [00:07:53] | k_ross: | clever: i removed the hostname from /etc/hosts as well. the only thing in there now is 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| [00:08:06] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: the backend is the part that runs the video cards and records stuff. I set it up with mythtv setup from the Sound & Video Menu |
| [00:08:07] | PaulWay: | wagnerrp: maybe he hasn't even got as far as getting the backend working? |
| [00:08:21] | k_ross: | it boots, but "hostname" returns "(none)" |
| [00:08:28] | BobLfoot: | It went thru setup and found all my live digital tv channels |
| [00:08:32] | clever: | k_ross: sounds like nothing is setting the hostname, at all |
| [00:08:34] | wagnerrp: | PaulWay: hes gotten too far without understanding what the 'backend' is |
| [00:08:36] | kormoc: | PaulWay: but you have to read the instructions before you can get the backend working... |
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| [00:09:01] | clever: | k_ross: you could modify the initrd to allow hostname=foo on the kernel args, and then just set it right in your boot loader |
| [00:09:04] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: did you subsequently RUN the backend? |
| [00:09:04] | kormoc: | BobLfoot: great, and now it's time to read up about the bit that actually does all the work and get it working |
| [00:09:26] | wagnerrp: | if you didnt run it, then it is not running, hence the 'cannot connect to backend' error |
| [00:09:48] | BobLfoot: | And which set of instruction would that be? the ones based for FC6 which jhaven't been updated in ages. or the ones that want me to break my package managed system. |
| [00:10:08] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [00:10:14] | kormoc: | Well, if you want to be like that... |
| [00:10:20] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: generally if youre running FC6, the only instruction we will give you here is 'upgrade' |
| [00:10:31] | kormoc: | So how's the holiday been folks? |
| [00:10:47] | k_ross: | clever: not using ubuntu, using debian testing |
| [00:11:17] | clever: | k_ross: yeah, thats why it might not be working, and why you might need to add your own bit |
| [00:11:26] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: you can either follow the official instructions, do a source install, and break compatibility with your package manager |
| [00:11:42] | wagnerrp: | or you can follow your distros instructions to continue using the package manager |
| [00:11:54] | BobLfoot: | Ah section 9.2 post install on this page http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.1 &md ash; looks like I have more reading to do |
| [00:11:55] | wagnerrp: | if your distro is so old as to not provide a new version of mythtv with it, then you need to upgrade |
| [00:11:59] | wagnerrp: | its as simple as that |
| [00:12:34] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I'm using F12 and If I get myth working was going to try rawhide |
| [00:12:47] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: he was just complaining that http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_MythTV_on_Fedora doesn't cover f12 (even tho it does) |
| [00:13:23] | clever: | k_ross: read the code for update-initramfs and see where it gets the core files, and edit em |
| [00:13:45] | k_ross: | clever: that's exactly what i'm trying to find |
| [00:14:05] | clever: | /usr/sbin/update-initramfs: POSIX shell script text executable |
| [00:14:55] | BobLfoot: | mythbackend command issues from a $ prompt – takes how long to complete? |
| [00:14:57] | clever: | it runs mkinitramfs to do the actual work |
| [00:15:09] | kormoc: | it will never complete, as that's not how you are to run it |
| [00:15:25] | PaulWay: | BobLfoot: it's a daemon – runs forever. |
| [00:15:35] | PaulWay: | Start it from the init scripts (e.g. service mythbackend start) |
| [00:16:02] | BobLfoot: | funny the command in the wiki http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.1 shows $ mythbackend |
| [00:16:21] | wagnerrp: | thats because those are the official instructions |
| [00:16:28] | kormoc: | funny that it's not a wiki |
| [00:16:39] | wagnerrp: | the ones that assume you are doing everything manually |
| [00:16:49] | wagnerrp: | rather than through some distro with a package manager and init scripts |
| [00:17:00] | kormoc: | and running it on a persistent terminal that you can nohup |
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| [00:17:49] | kormoc: | BobLfoot: the official instructions are for people with a fairly solid understanding of linux/unix fundamentals, you'd be much better off reading the executive overview and the fedora specific wiki page |
| [00:18:36] | BobLfoot: | sweet the frontend finds video now |
| [00:20:15] | PaulWay: | I'm finally making some headway with getting minimyth working. Yay. |
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| [00:21:43] | BobLfoot: | kormoc: I've been bouncing from page to page for the past 2 days playing with this pc. by chance can you provide the url to the "executive summary" as you call it and the "fedora specific wiki page" It would be much appreciated |
| [00:22:29] | kormoc: | BobLfoot: we already did above, you ignored them, but here they are again, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Installing_MythTV_on_Fedora |
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| [00:27:57] | BobLfoot: | kormoc: I missed them sorry |
| [00:28:04] | BobLfoot: | and thanks for repeating |
| [00:28:16] | k_ross: | clever: i downloaded and extracted initramfs-tools for karmic, and grepped for things like dhcp and host, but couldn't find anything relevent |
| [00:30:49] | clever: | k_ross: i generaly just unpack the initrd its using and hack away at that |
| [00:30:57] | clever: | or use the filenames in there for a search |
| [00:31:08] | k_ross: | ok |
| [00:32:25] | clever: | whoa |
| [00:32:39] | clever: | i think somebody's VOD is leaking via clear QAM |
| [00:32:59] | clever: | i'm getting karaoke on this channel:P |
| [00:35:45] | kormoc: | k_ross: make sure request host-name is in your dhclient.conf? |
| [00:36:10] | clever: | use-host-decl-names on; |
| [00:36:28] | clever: | that one? |
| [00:37:26] | k_ross: | request host-name is present in my dhclient.conf |
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| [00:38:05] | clever: | the dhclient for the main system, or for the initrd? |
| [00:38:26] | k_ross: | the main one |
| [00:39:12] | kormoc: | SET_HOSTNAME is uncommented in /etc/dhcpc/config? |
| [00:39:45] | devicenull: | :o |
| [00:40:03] | devicenull: | 0.22 is the first upgrade in awhile, I'm kinda excited for it :p |
| [00:43:28] | k_ross: | the initrd doesn't have anything related to dhcp in its /etc |
| [00:43:45] | k_ross: | i gunzipped it and cpio -i |
| [00:44:00] | k_ross: | in the etc folder is modprobe.d and udev |
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| [01:02:44] | AndyCap: | Geez, logitech cocked up their database schema, you want to add another remote, oh you have to make a new account for that. |
| [01:03:46] | wagnerrp: | s/cocked up their/has always has a screwy/ |
| [01:05:00] | AndyCap: | but I'm way overdue to look at what congruity and friends can do I guess. |
| [01:05:58] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression it was the exact same web interface, but with drivers to pump the config to the remote under linux |
| [01:06:14] | AndyCap: | very possible. |
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| [01:10:10] | AndyCap: | loooks that way. hmm, have to hack the ezhex format then. :( |
| [01:11:13] | [R]: | whats wrong with my fonts |
| [01:11:21] | [R]: | in terra, the time is cut off a little in the bottom corner |
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| [01:16:19] | J-e-f-f-A: | [R]: The "m" in "pm" is cut off on my screen too – 1280x720 resolution. |
| [01:17:00] | ** J-e-f-f-A hadn't noticed that before... ** | |
| [01:18:06] | devicenull: | my video card and TV aren't getting a long,, the left 25% of the screen is black, and the image is all shifted over by that much.. where would I begin fo fixing this? |
| [01:18:10] | devicenull: | I don't think it's overscan |
| [01:18:11] | BobLfoot: | kormoc: Thanks for your help the backend and frontend are working now jsut to figure out why the irc doesn't register. But that's for alter |
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| [01:25:14] | wagnerrp: | irc doesnt register... what? |
| [01:27:05] | PaulWay: | ooohhhh yeah, finally got minimyth working! |
| [01:27:10] | PaulWay: | Glee! |
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| [01:28:02] | ** wagnerrp wonders if this MythMediaMonitor realizes how much easier a time he would be having were he to program in a more full featured language ** | |
| [01:28:24] | wagnerrp: | trying to do pattern matching in bash is painful to look at |
| [01:28:54] | wagnerrp: | and he seems to be doing html scraping in bash... mind boggling |
| [01:31:03] | iamlindoro: | somewhat insulting to call it a MythVideo alternative, might I add |
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| [01:36:51] | wagnerrp: | all that work in mythvideo, replaced by a mere 1000 lines of bash |
| [01:37:12] | devicenull: | mythmediamonitor? |
| [01:37:24] | devicenull: | I dont suppose that's finally something to monitor set directories and automatically update the database :D |
| [01:37:42] | wagnerrp: | christ, hes got a 12 line block of code for EACH name format |
| [01:38:06] | wagnerrp: | devicenull: its someone's horribly overengineered bash script to monitor directories and automatically insert them as recordings |
| [01:38:12] | devicenull: | ah |
| [01:38:42] | sphery: | You mean I don't *have* to use MythVideo, anymore? |
| [01:38:56] | sphery: | It's like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders. |
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| [01:39:58] | drose_: | hullo! |
| [01:39:59] | drose_: | Hi, I'm in Australia, and ABC uses some funky offsets. I can get a station using VLC but it has no sound; mythTV can't get a lock, I get (LM_) or sometimes (LMs). Am I right in assuming that s is for sound in this context? |
| [01:40:30] | sphery: | drose_: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Channel_tuning |
| [01:40:37] | drose_: | And.. has syone had similar problems with a dviuco fusion dual digital (zarlink chipset) |
| [01:40:39] | drose_: | thanks |
| [01:41:09] | sphery: | and for digital tuning all of the information used by Myth is pulled from the stream, so if the broadcaster isn't telling us how to properly tune the channel... |
| [01:41:23] | wagnerrp: | sphery: do you even use mythvideo? |
| [01:41:29] | sphery: | wagnerrp: no, not really. |
| [01:41:48] | sphery: | that was a joke based on what the e-mail announcement said |
| [01:41:52] | wagnerrp: | yeah, i thought you just had a bunch of recordings, and a couple dvds |
| [01:42:05] | sphery: | Right, and don't watch DVD's through Myth, so... |
| [01:42:28] | [R]: | does anyone else notice the time is cutoff in terra?? |
| [01:42:33] | [R]: | s/??/?/ |
| [01:42:49] | sphery: | [R]: I'll bet that people who have chosen shorter time/date formats don't notice |
| [01:43:00] | sphery: | [R]: also, Terra is designed to use Arial |
| [01:43:05] | [R]: | how can you get shorter than "Sat Dec 26 6:43 PM" |
| [01:43:07] | [R]: | sphery: i have that font |
| [01:43:18] | sphery: | some distros believe that Arial is an evil font owned by an evil empire, so they refuse to let users use it |
| [01:43:38] | sphery: | and they have font replacement rules that substitute (the /much/ wider) DejaVu Sans for Arial |
| [01:43:44] | [R]: | hrm |
| [01:43:52] | [R]: | how can i tell if its actually using Arial then? |
| [01:43:56] | [R]: | its most defintely installed |
| [01:43:59] | sphery: | good question.... |
| [01:44:04] | sphery: | if it's installed, in theory it should work |
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| [01:44:18] | sphery: | though I can't say for sure that your distro has it properly configured |
| [01:44:19] | [R]: | i'm pretty sure before i installed it it was really screwy |
| [01:44:50] | sphery: | then it may just be the date format you chose is much longer than the one that gb ee was designing the theme to use |
| [01:45:15] | sphery: | date/time formats, that is |
| [01:45:25] | [R]: | how can you get shorter than "Sat Dec 26 6:43 PM" |
| [01:45:30] | sphery: | anyway, should be relatively easy to patch (at least locally) |
| [01:46:04] | [R]: | yeah |
| [01:46:06] | [R]: | i did fix it |
| [01:46:12] | iamlindoro: | [R], by choosing one which doesn't display the day of the week, like 12/26/09, etc. |
| [01:46:20] | [R]: | i fixed the xml, but then didnt back it up and lost my cahnges |
| [01:46:40] | [R]: | iamlindoro: mm... lemme try |
| [01:46:46] | sphery: | h:mm is shorter than h:mm AP |
| [01:46:54] | [R]: | but i need to know am/pm |
| [01:46:59] | drose_: | Thanks for the link! |
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| [01:47:01] | sphery: | h:mm ap is probably shorter |
| [01:47:36] | sphery: | but if that's cutting with only one digit in the hour, it will definitely cut when there are 2 |
| [01:47:51] | [R]: | why is there "Guide Language #1" and "Guide Language #2"... how would it display 2 languages? |
| [01:48:11] | iamlindoro: | numerous european locales that broadcast multiple guide languages |
| [01:48:21] | iamlindoro: | so you get to put a preference so that there's a fallback |
| [01:48:26] | [R]: | oh... interesting |
| [01:49:06] | iamlindoro: | though it's not clear, those same preferences also set up which order the audio tracks are chosen in where supported |
| [01:49:24] | [R]: | that does make sense |
| [01:50:24] | k_ross: | clever: (and others) i came up with a hack that lets me set the hostname |
| [01:50:53] | sphery: | set the hostname? |
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| [01:51:35] | clever: | sphery: when sharing / via nfs |
| [01:51:41] | k_ross: | sphery: doing a netboot from a shared nfs root. all diskless clients share same / |
| [01:51:59] | [R]: | k_ross: you make that read-only and then have a read-write overlay |
| [01:52:14] | sphery: | ahhh, I thought you meant something myth-ish (where no hostname hacks should /ever/ be required) |
| [01:52:17] | [R]: | no crazy hacks necessary |
| [01:52:19] | k_ross: | put all the host names in /etc/hosts, and modify /etc/init.d/hostname.sh to look up the hostname from the IP address |
| [01:52:34] | clever: | k_ross: thats a neat idea:) |
| [01:52:52] | clever: | [R]: i havent gotten unionfs installed yet on my laptop, so thats not posible |
| [01:53:12] | k_ross: | [R]: the reason i don't do that is simple: i have no idea how :) |
| [01:53:18] | [R]: | lol |
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| [02:07:42] | BobLfoot: | my infrarred remote came with my pc and is branded by the pc manufacturer, but in windows it is VID 147A PID E018 anyway to translate that to something meaningful in linux? |
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| [02:10:48] | bllz: | Out of nowhere, my mythvideo videos are playing faster than they should... |
| [02:11:07] | bllz: | what's the likely cause of this? |
| [02:13:03] | [R]: | if you install lirc... does any module get loaded for it? |
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| [02:13:13] | [R]: | BobLfoot: does it show up as a hid device maybe? |
| [02:13:25] | [R]: | bllz: what does the log say |
| [02:13:39] | bllz: | [R]: frontend log, i assume? |
| [02:13:57] | [R]: | well seeing as that's the one playing the file... |
| [02:14:13] | bllz: | [R]: just figured i'd double check. hang on |
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| [02:17:02] | BobLfoot: | [R]: I just found a device matching the windows PID EID in linux under lsusb as a Formosa Industrial Computing Inc on bus 002 device 004 |
| [02:17:40] | [R]: | BobLfoot: that doesn't mean anything |
| [02:17:50] | [R]: | thats just saying there is a usb device attached |
| [02:17:56] | bllz: | [R]: I don't see any glaring errors... |
| [02:18:07] | bllz: | [R]: i'm going to pastebin the last couple of lines in case you spot something I don't |
| [02:18:09] | k_ross: | can myth log via syslog instead of file? |
| [02:18:10] | bllz: | if you don't mind |
| [02:18:28] | [R]: | k_ross: no |
| [02:18:43] | k_ross: | [R]: ok thanks |
| [02:18:56] | BobLfoot: | [R]: I understand that I am just trying to figure our which module to load and how to manipulate lirc to get it recognized |
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| [02:20:18] | bllzz: | oh boy... power outage |
| [02:20:27] | [R]: | BobLfoot: if its supported... it'll automatically load the module |
| [02:21:40] | bllzz: | [R]: here are the last few lines of the log...http://paste.ubuntu.com/347362/ |
| [02:22:04] | [R]: | don't put characters next to a url |
| [02:22:10] | [R]: | it screw up auto opening of the url |
| [02:22:13] | bllzz: | sorry |
| [02:22:15] | bllzz: | http://paste.ubuntu.com/347362/ |
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| [02:22:35] | [R]: | try it with playback verbose |
| [02:22:50] | BobLfoot: | [R]: please refresh my rusty memory what folder or command will give me a list of loaded modules? |
| [02:22:58] | [R]: | BobLfoot: lsmod |
| [02:23:21] | bllzz: | [R]: do you recall offhand how to do that? |
| [02:23:56] | [R]: | bllz: its a comand line paramter |
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| [02:24:47] | BobLfoot: | [R]: lsmod | grep irc returns lirc_mceusb and lirc_dev so it must be recognized by linux correct? |
| [02:25:02] | [R]: | unless you loaded the module yourself |
| [02:25:28] | devicenull: | hm, is anyone sucessfully using snes9x with myth 0.22? |
| [02:26:12] | Dagmar: | No one anywhere is |
| [02:26:19] | devicenull: | :p |
| [02:26:21] | bllzz: | [R]: does the verbose parameter go in the default video player section of the player settings in the frontend? |
| [02:26:25] | devicenull: | the settings on the wiki dont seem to wrk |
| [02:26:32] | [R]: | bllz: huh? |
| [02:27:13] | bllzz: | [R]: you said I should try verose playback. I'm not sure how to do that... in the frontend configuration or do you want me to start the internal player at the command line or what? |
| [02:27:22] | bllzz: | [R]: also, I can't find a manpage for the internal player |
| [02:27:32] | [R]: | who said antyhing about changing the frontend configuration |
| [02:27:35] | [R]: | i said itw as a command line parameter |
| [02:27:58] | bllzz: | [R]: well command line parameters often go in the frontend config too... I'm not too sure how to do what you're suggesting |
| [02:28:17] | [R]: | its a parametre to mythfrontend... |
| [02:28:57] | bllzz: | [R]: I'm still not sure how to try the verbose playback, or where to look it up |
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| [02:29:07] | [R]: | well lets see |
| [02:29:10] | [R]: | lets start with |
| [02:29:35] | [R]: | [07:22:34] [R] try it with playback verbose |
| [02:29:41] | [R]: | [07:23:55] [R] bllz: its a comand line paramter |
| [02:29:46] | [R]: | [07:28:16] [R] its a parametre to mythfrontend... |
| [02:30:02] | bllzz: | aaah okay I get it |
| [02:30:08] | bllzz: | i didn't put the two together |
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| [02:32:43] | bllzz: | okay got it |
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| [02:32:57] | bllzz: | [R]: so now additional information will appear in the log, correct? |
| [02:33:09] | [R]: | assuming you did it correctly |
| [02:33:29] | bllzz: | hmm now it just refuses to play anything |
| [02:34:26] | bllzz: | althoguh livetv still works (going like 900000x speed...) |
| [02:35:56] | bllzz: | [R]: and my mythfrontend is empty... |
| [02:36:04] | bllzz: | the log, that is |
| [02:37:01] | [R]: | you probably didn't tel lit to save to the log |
| [02:37:23] | bllzz: | [R]: i started mythfrontend -v playback |
| [02:37:34] | bllzz: | i guess i missed something... |
| [02:37:34] | [R]: | exactly |
| [02:37:35] | [R]: | just what i said |
| [02:37:42] | bllzz: | what did I miss? |
| [02:38:10] | ctmjr: | > |
| [02:38:14] | bllzz: | record? |
| [02:38:23] | [R]: | [07:37:00] [R] you probably didn't tel lit to save to the log |
| [02:38:33] | bllzz: | [R]: obviously... |
| [02:38:39] | bllzz: | record? |
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| [02:38:49] | [R]: | huh? |
| [02:39:00] | bllzz: | "related messages" seems rather vague... is that what you're referring to? |
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| [02:39:18] | bllzz: | probably |
| [02:39:21] | bllzz: | i'll try that real quick |
| [02:39:22] | [R]: | no clue what yo uare sayinhg |
| [02:39:39] | bllzz: | should it be "mythtv -v playback record" ? |
| [02:39:43] | bllzz: | oops |
| [02:39:49] | [R]: | should what be |
| [02:39:49] | bllzz: | mytfrontend -v playback record |
| [02:39:58] | bllzz: | the command line parameters |
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| [02:40:08] | [R]: | huh? |
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| [02:42:00] | bllzz: | in order to start mythfrontend with verbose playback and save those logs... do I need those parameters? you mentioned that I had forgotten to tell it to save messages to the log, and I'm asking if the "record" parameter accomplishes that. in the manpage it describes the "record" parameter as "recoring related messages", but I'm not sure what is meant by that |
| [02:42:29] | bllzz: | "those parameters" being : mythfrontend -v playback record |
| [02:44:06] | bllzz: | [R]: I just tried and that doesn't seem to work either |
| [02:46:25] | devicenull: | hm, when I run zsnes through mythtv, it ignores keyboard input.. yes when I run it outside of mythtv it works fine |
| [02:46:29] | BobLfoot: | Using these instructions http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html I am trying to get my remote taught to my system. The command irrecord myremote takes me thru a series of commands and identifies my remote as an RC-6 but ends when it doesn't see a toggle bit. |
| [02:46:32] | devicenull: | any idea why mythtv is stealing keyboard input? |
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| [02:46:52] | [R]: | devicenull: are you using a window manager? |
| [02:47:05] | BobLfoot: | The list of remotes on sourceforge shows an rc-5 but not and rc-6 any ideas, where to go next? |
| [02:47:08] | devicenull: | no, it's just a barebones x server |
| [02:47:11] | devicenull: | why, do I need one? |
| [02:47:16] | [R]: | devicenull: yup |
| [02:47:23] | devicenull: | ah |
| [02:47:31] | devicenull: | I never would have figured that out, thanks :p |
| [02:47:59] | bllzz: | [R]: i'm really at a loss for how to make sure the log is being saved... |
| [02:48:30] | [R]: | bllzz: a shame |
| [02:48:40] | bllzz: | [R]: i can't find anything in the manpage... |
| [02:48:44] | bllzz: | any ideas? |
| [02:48:49] | [R]: | no |
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| [02:49:44] | bllzz: | [R]: It's very strange. the log appears to be there when I ls the directory, but when I try to read it using, say, nano it shows up as a new file |
| [02:49:51] | bllzz: | whereas before there was information int he log... |
| [02:50:14] | bllzz: | not to mention that the videos won't play at all now with the verbose parameter |
| [02:51:08] | bllzz: | what? and now they're back... this is insane |
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| [02:51:53] | Hilikus: | hey guys |
| [02:52:08] | ctmjr: | bllzz: you need to find out how to direct the output to a file |
| [02:52:33] | bllzz: | ctmjr: it seems to have somehow resolved itself ... =/ |
| [02:52:35] | Hilikus: | skip back is not working in live tv but it does in recordings. why could that be? |
| [02:52:45] | Hilikus: | neither is skip forward |
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| [02:54:59] | bllzz: | and now it's gone again |
| [03:02:18] | bllzz: | Ok well now I officially cannot play any videos in mythvideo... here's the frontend log. I'm not quite sure what to make of the "internal not found" I assume it's referring to the internal player, but how that could be missing is beyond me http://paste.ubuntu.com/347376/ |
| [03:02:39] | bllzz: | livetv is still playing at several times normal speed |
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| [03:03:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | bllzz: That would be impossible if you were playing it 'live'... it could never play what it hasn't recorded yet... Do you have frequency scaling turned on or something? |
| [03:04:20] | bllzz: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah it does seem rather impossible, doesn't it? What is frequency scaling and how can I check to see if it is turned on? |
| [03:05:48] | iamlindoro: | internal != Internal |
| [03:05:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | bllzz: it's the thing that throttles down your CPU when you're not using it at 'full power' – but often has bad side effects on PVR systems like you're seeing... On AMD systems I think it's called "Power Now" – not sure what it's called on Intel boxes. |
| [03:06:04] | bllzz: | iamlindoro: oh jesus... well played |
| [03:06:36] | bllzz: | J-e-f-f-A: hmm I'll look into it but I don't think that's the case |
| [03:06:37] | [R]: | bllzz: the internal player is called 'Internal'... not 'internal' |
| [03:06:37] | bllzz: | iamlindoro: well that's one problem solved. |
| [03:08:24] | ** J-e-f-f-A is quite happy with 0.22 ;-) ** | |
| [03:09:17] | ** bllzz was happy with it until it borked... but hopefully this will be resolved sometime soon ** | |
| [03:10:39] | J-e-f-f-A: | I had to 'start fresh' on two of my frontends that were were running older versions of Fedora (fc8), but it was probably better that way anyways. |
| [03:11:14] | bllzz: | J-e-f-f-A: yeah I'm working from a fresh install and it was working beautifully, but now my videos (and tv playback) are all going too fast. and this is seemingly unprovoked |
| [03:11:45] | bllzz: | in any case... does anybody know how to get mythfrontend -v playback to write to the frontend logfile? I really can't figure this out... |
| [03:11:59] | bllzz: | i've been to the mythfrontend -v help manpage to no avail |
| [03:12:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | bllzz: try "mythfrontend --help" – it's the 1st line in the "Valid options" |
| [03:13:48] | bllzz: | J-e-f-f-A: I tried that but it complains about X |
| [03:13:51] | bllzz: | oh wait... |
| [03:13:59] | bllzz: | maybe that won't work over ssh for some strange reason? |
| [03:14:26] | bllzz: | that's very strange.... it works in vnc but not over an ssh terminal ... ah well |
| [03:14:32] | bllzz: | thanks, J-e-f-f-A |
| [03:15:15] | BobLfoot: | did lircd move between this howto http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html and the one for Fedora F12? |
| [03:15:38] | clever: | bllzz: 'DISPLAY=:0.0 mythfrontend --help' |
| [03:15:45] | BobLfoot: | /usr/local/sbin/lircd issued as root returns "no such file or directory" |
| [03:16:08] | bllzz: | clever: thanks. waht does that command do exactly (apologies for my undoubtedly annoying noobishness...) |
| [03:16:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | BobLfoot: I had to change my lirc socket from /var/run/lirc.... [whatever it is] to /dev/lircd – others have just created a symbolic link back to /dev/lircd |
| [03:16:40] | clever: | bllzz: it sets the DISPLAY env variable for just that command, tricking it into thinking you ran it on :0 (the 1st X server) |
| [03:16:52] | clever: | :1 is probly uour vnc |
| [03:17:00] | ** J-e-f-f-A went from FC8 to FC11 with the 0.22-fixes upgrade... ** | |
| [03:17:05] | BobLfoot: | J-e-f-f-A: that would be in frontend setup? |
| [03:17:10] | clever: | bllzz: you can play with it by doing things like 'DISPLAY=:0.0 xclock' |
| [03:17:10] | bllzz: | clever: ah okay, yes that makes sense. thanks |
| [03:17:21] | Hilikus: | every now and then after changing channles i have the so called tinny sound |
| [03:17:33] | Hilikus: | this is on myth 0.22 ubuntu 9.10 |
| [03:17:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hilikus: Hauppauge PVR 150/250/500 ? |
| [03:17:58] | Hilikus: | any idea how to fix this? |
| [03:18:10] | Hilikus: | yes |
| [03:18:12] | Hilikus: | pvr 150 |
| [03:18:43] | Hilikus: | is this a known problem? |
| [03:19:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hilikus: AFAIK, it's an ivtv bug. I fixed it with some googling and these scripts I put together as a result... http://jartz.gotdns.com:8008/files/ivtv_audio_issue/ (see fix_video0_audio.sh , etc, and the channel change scripts on how I lauch them) |
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| [03:20:27] | danlench: | good day all, i can't get my dvd sound working correctly, its about half of the live tv and i've tried turning up all settings to 100% in the myth frontend settings as well as the mixer. i've also searched around but haven't been able to figure it out. any ideas? |
| [03:21:49] | J-e-f-f-A: | danlench: running analog Sterio audio out? Sounds like the pc's outputting 5.1 Analog, and you're only hearing the Left and Right channels. |
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| [03:24:05] | bllzz: | Ok here's my verbose mythfrontend log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/347385/ As a reminder, the problem is that my playback on livetv and mythvideo is faster than it should be. It's like watching the show on a mild fastforward (with audio) |
| [03:24:12] | bllzz: | any help is greatly appreciated |
| [03:26:39] | danlench: | J-e-f-f-A: that makes sense. i'm only using/need stereo anyway. does/can myth set the output method for dvd or should it be in a pc setting? |
| [03:26:44] | bllzz: | actually, here's a more complete log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/347388/ |
| [03:28:01] | danlench: | my dvd is set to internal |
| [03:28:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | danlench: I think you'll have to mess around with ALSA to configure it to downmix 5.1 to "Sterio" – But I haven't done it myself... I once 'cheated' and just used a cheap USB 2-channel sound card to get around the issue... |
| [03:29:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | bllzz: An MPEG4 AVI is "Live TV"? |
| [03:29:52] | bllzz: | J-e-f-f-A: no, in this isntance I only tried to play an avi file in mythvideo |
| [03:29:59] | bllzz: | but the same problem occurs with livetv |
| [03:30:54] | danlench: | J-e-f-f-A: everything was working fine until i upgraded, now i have this sound issue and dvd importing is mucked. i actually had to hose my install and start over. well practice makes perfect (and headaches) |
| [03:32:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | danlench: Yeah – dvd importing may just bhe the fault of increased 'security' on dvds by manufacturers – they seem to be doing more things to prevent ripping – ie: invalid file tables, etc. Things that if you just 'play' the DVD don't get referenced, but if you try to rip it, it sees as errors and blows up... |
| [03:33:52] | danlench: | J-e-f-f-A: also, my "Max Audio Channels" is Stereo and upmix is set to Passive. well with the dvd, it won't even retrieve the names anymore |
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| [03:34:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | bllzz: Do these play ok outside of myth? If not, perhaps it's a driver issue or something. |
| [03:35:32] | bllzz: | J-e-f-f-A: hmm. i'll try real quick. the thing is I literally just got done watching "up" and now everything is hosed... so they _did_ work fine, which makes me doubt a driver issue |
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| [03:38:56] | Arpman: | Evenig all |
| [03:41:59] | Arpman: | Why would the internal media player fail to execute through MythVideo on DV.iso or *.mkv? |
| [03:42:56] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: your frontend logs should tell you why |
| [03:44:04] | Arpman: | wagnerrp: Ok – call me a newb (I am) – where are the logs...? |
| [03:44:39] | Arpman: | ah – /var/logs/mythtv...? |
| [03:44:52] | wagnerrp: | depends on how you called mythfrontend |
| [03:45:11] | wagnerrp: | if its not in /var/logs/mythtv/, its likely you have no frontend logs |
| [03:45:51] | Arpman: | Its a staright Mythbuntu install...(tired of messing around in BSD – so went with a livecd...) |
| [03:46:30] | devicenull: | what happened to the video manager in mythvideo? |
| [03:46:40] | devicenull: | I can't figure out how to get it to rescan the directories now |
| [03:47:04] | wagnerrp: | the video manager still exists |
| [03:47:10] | devicenull: | nm found it |
| [03:47:18] | wagnerrp: | but now it's duties have been consumed into mythvideo in general |
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| [03:47:20] | devicenull: | I didnt expect to have to press buttons to find it :p |
| [03:47:32] | wagnerrp: | and it is now only a view, just like any other the other three views |
| [03:47:43] | wagnerrp: | you have the capacity to scan in any of the (now four) views |
| [03:47:44] | devicenull: | yea I was mainly looking for how to rescan for new videos |
| [03:47:47] | devicenull: | yep found that |
| [03:48:27] | BobLfoot: | OK I could use some help again. I've got my remote to produce output to the irw command, but cannot get it to do anything in mythtv. Where do I start to debug the breakdown? |
| [03:48:28] | devicenull: | definitely a better place for it :D |
| [03:48:52] | Arpman: | ok – tried to watch newly ripped dvd.iso ... and the log says.... |
| [03:49:04] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: have you set up a lircrc file in ~/.mythtv/? |
| [03:49:12] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: do not paste it in here |
| [03:49:15] | wagnerrp: | use a pastebin |
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| [03:49:54] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I have a ~/.lircrc file and it's definitions match the lircd.conf file |
| [03:50:14] | Arpman: | failed to open /dev/dvd?....hmmm... (Thanks wagnerrp – i wouldnt do that...im not that newbish...!) |
| [03:50:19] | BobLfoot: | does it need to be in ~/.mythtv/.lircrc also? |
| [03:50:29] | BobLfoot: | ls -a |
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| [03:50:57] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: if you are using ISOs, you must use local file access, you cannot use storage groups |
| [03:51:13] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: it looks in '~/.mythtv/lircrc' |
| [03:51:23] | wagnerrp: | if there is no file there, myth does not listen to lircd |
| [03:51:26] | Arpman: | no such file or directory – but its an .iso (and the DVD is /dev/dvd1..... hmmmm.... |
| [03:51:42] | Arpman: | really – no storage groups? |
| [03:51:49] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: no storage groups |
| [03:52:01] | wagnerrp: | the DVD code requires block access to the files |
| [03:52:03] | Arpman: | I think thats the way mythbuntu is default config |
| [03:52:11] | wagnerrp: | and currently, the storage group code does not provide for that |
| [03:52:22] | wagnerrp: | however it should work for any normal video container |
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| [03:52:56] | Arpman: | so whats the difference (in config ) between SG and locla access? cuz I havent figured that out yet – been tryin all day |
| [03:53:19] | wagnerrp: | storage groups are something defined in mythtv-setup and accessed by the backend |
| [03:53:39] | wagnerrp: | local access are folders defined in the mythvideo setup in mythfrontend, and access directly by mythvideo |
| [03:54:14] | Arpman: | backend = SG ; Frontend = local acces.... |
| [03:54:34] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I now have a ~/.mythtv/lircrc file and still no remote function do I need to restart the backend for this to work? |
| [03:54:39] | Arpman: | so I should delete the backens video config then.... |
| [03:54:53] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: no, you restart the frontend |
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| [03:55:18] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: have you downloaded metadata for any of your media? |
| [03:55:25] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: did that already and no improvement |
| [03:55:28] | achandra: | have some questions about using the "guide" in mythtv |
| [03:55:47] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: pastebin your lircrc |
| [03:56:30] | achandra: | i am able to access it just fine and scroll through it. But when i click "OK", it takes me to a menu about recording. Is there a quick way to simply select the show and i can just watch it ...or do I need to type in the channel each time? |
| [03:56:55] | achandra: | wondering if the keymap for this is not correct, and if not where i should change it? |
| [03:57:00] | [R]: | why would myth be saying "failed to save" on the channel icons |
| [03:57:10] | [R]: | when as the user that the frontend is running as... i can touch the files just fine |
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| [03:57:25] | Arpman: | only a couple of files – still figuring out why metadata is not complete for the .iso's and a few other files... |
| [03:57:34] | Arpman: | can Storage Groups and local access point the same location if using symlinks? |
| [03:57:57] | wagnerrp: | if youve only done a couple files, delete all the folders from the Videos storage group in mythtv-setup |
| [03:58:00] | wagnerrp: | restart the backend |
| [03:58:17] | wagnerrp: | add the folders back in the mythvideo setup in mythfrontend |
| [03:58:18] | wagnerrp: | and rescan |
| [03:58:38] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: http://fpaste.org/2gJS/ for the lircrc and http://fpaste.org/kjRa/ for /etc/lircd.conf |
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| [04:00:13] | Arpman: | backend or frontend setup? |
| [04:00:46] | devicenull: | I get corrupted video after I stop playing something in mythvideo.. any ideas? It's a radeon 9800 using the open source drivers |
| [04:01:10] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: delete the folders from the Videos storage group in mythtv-setup |
| [04:01:13] | wagnerrp: | restart the backend |
| [04:01:17] | wagnerrp: | add the folders back in the mythvideo setup in mythfrontend |
| [04:02:48] | Arpman: | wagnerrp – I was just gonna chane the SG localation to be../SG/.. or would it be better just to delete them? |
| [04:02:59] | achandra: | using mythbuntu, and a mce remote...any time i go to channel guide and pick a show, i get menu about recording instead of going to the show itself, I want the latter behavior...how do i get it do so? |
| [04:03:00] | Arpman: | incase I wanted to stream... |
| [04:03:07] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: use 'd' to delete each |
| [04:03:17] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: i cant find the page on the wiki im looking for |
| [04:03:25] | wagnerrp: | but you have no directional keys mapped |
| [04:03:41] | wagnerrp: | myth has a minimum set of buttons you must have mapped to function properly |
| [04:03:59] | wagnerrp: | those include the directional keys, enter, m, i, and escape |
| [04:04:02] | wagnerrp: | there may be one or two others |
| [04:04:21] | wagnerrp: | achandra: you asked that just 8 minutes ago, have some patience |
| [04:04:35] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: OK back to the salt mine of mapping my remote unless you know where there is an rc-6 template |
| [04:04:47] | wagnerrp: | rc-6? |
| [04:05:10] | achandra: | wagnerrp, no worries...tried to rephrase, because I thought it was perhaps poorly worded....will show better patience ;) |
| [04:05:36] | achandra: | wagnerrp, thanks again for help in past...ive been using myth in 1080 for a week now, and works well |
| [04:05:38] | wagnerrp: | achandra: no, i know exactly what you mean |
| [04:05:43] | wagnerrp: | ive seen the same behavior |
| [04:05:45] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: the irrecord utility used on http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-8.html identifies the remote as an RC-6 remote. |
| [04:05:56] | wagnerrp: | but i never use livetv, so ive not bothered to figure out the proper way to do it |
| [04:06:04] | BobLfoot: | sourceforge has an RC-5 but not an RC-6 |
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| [04:11:03] | Arpman: | wagnerrp: thanks for the tip. Deleted the SG via backend and did a rescan via frontend...seems to work a little better now |
| [04:12:27] | Arpman: | can metada data be downloaded for more then one file at a time? or is it a individual thing? |
| [04:12:38] | [R]: | Arpman: thats what jamu is for |
| [04:12:40] | wagnerrp: | just keep hitting 'w' |
| [04:12:45] | [R]: | wagnerrp: lol |
| [04:13:04] | wagnerrp: | if you have a LOT of files, jamu in interactive mode will do what youre looking for |
| [04:13:18] | Arpman: | jamu? |
| [04:13:19] | [R]: | i think jamu is too complicated |
| [04:13:25] | [R]: | i tried reading hte wiki once... coudln't figure it out |
| [04:13:25] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, it will take longer to setup jamu than to just keep hitting 'w' |
| [04:13:54] | wagnerrp: | 'lot' being anything over a hundred or so |
| [04:14:10] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: remember, the UI is threaded, you can hit 'w' and immediately move onto the next entry |
| [04:14:34] | [R]: | wagnerrp: there is a progress bar that shows up for a second or two |
| [04:14:46] | Arpman: | does metadata work for dvd isos that I made? |
| [04:14:52] | wagnerrp: | thats only while doing the initial search |
| [04:15:02] | wagnerrp: | Arpman: it works for any properly name entry in mythvideo |
| [04:16:07] | Arpman: | found Role Models but not Spiderman 3... hmmm |
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| [04:16:45] | [R]: | freakin lyngsat seriously needs to stop presenting a million icons that are identical as different |
| [04:17:20] | Arpman: | where is the metadata being drawn from? |
| [04:18:33] | wagnerrp: | themoviedb.org and thetvdb.com |
| [04:20:03] | Arpman: | can other sources be added? |
| [04:20:46] | [R]: | Arpman: like what |
| [04:20:48] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_Grabber_Script_format |
| [04:22:15] | Arpman: | well – used to use DVD profiler to track all my dvd's and they have a community driven database (with cast and art) – might be a nice place to get other info |
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| [04:22:39] | [R]: | other info? |
| [04:23:02] | wagnerrp: | other grabbers are always welcome.... if they comply with the site in question's TOS |
| [04:24:10] | Arpman: | I guess its all about the legal stuff... |
| [04:25:12] | wagnerrp: | you can write whatever you want |
| [04:25:27] | wagnerrp: | but it will never be included unless it complies with the source's TOS |
| [04:25:27] | Arpman: | I think it would be great for DVD rips... |
| [04:25:44] | Arpman: | true that – have to wprk on my pearl |
| [04:25:51] | Arpman: | or is it in python? |
| [04:26:05] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter |
| [04:26:12] | wagnerrp: | you can write it in BF for all mythtv cares |
| [04:26:24] | wagnerrp: | although good luck trying to get that included in mythtv |
| [04:26:51] | [R]: | they have MTV in china? wtf mate |
| [04:29:04] | Arpman: | wagnerrp : no text on the video grabber page |
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| [04:29:34] | elmojo: | iamlindoro: are there any known issues with traversing the tree in MythVideo? |
| [04:29:35] | wagnerrp: | yeah, that last 'f' needs to be capitolized |
| [04:36:06] | Arpman: | Thats a better page |
| [04:36:56] | Arpman: | question? How come the DVD rip program can not read the disc title/id and autogenerate a file name and metadat? |
| [04:37:05] | Arpman: | curious... |
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| [04:39:47] | Dagmar: | Because the disc is copy-protected |
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| [04:40:34] | Arpman: | strange – the OS can read the the disc title.. |
| [04:41:10] | Dagmar: | No need for them to protect that from copying. |
| [04:42:25] | Arpman: | if the OS can read the disc title, then why acant mythvideo? |
| [04:43:03] | Dagmar: | Because it can't rip the disc, or you misconfigured things. |
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| [05:08:37] | qwertydamus: | does anyone know why .m4v videos will just show a black screen for a few seconds and then not play in the mythvideo frontend, and what I can do to fix it? |
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| [05:11:26] | wagnerrp: | theres no such thing as m4v |
| [05:12:17] | qwertydamus: | sorry typo, I meant .mp4 |
| [05:12:36] | wagnerrp: | check your frontend logs from the time of trying to load the file |
| [05:12:44] | wagnerrp: | alternatively, try 'mythavtest <filename>' directly |
| [05:15:21] | qwertydamus: | wagnerrp:Ok I ran it, should i paste the result? |
| [05:16:06] | wagnerrp: | if you dont understand them yourself |
| [05:16:23] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I'm back from the Salt Mines – http://fpaste,org/35Zo for the lircrc file and http://fpaste.org/abVE for the lircd.conf file. Still no remote in mythtv, but works with irw command at bash prompt. |
| [05:17:29] | qwertydamus: | wagnerrp: http://fpaste.org/Bkqe/ it looks to me like the error is on line 94, but I have no idea what to install to fix it |
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| [05:18:52] | wagnerrp: | qwertydamus: as it says... 'libfaad.so: cannot open shared object file' |
| [05:19:04] | wagnerrp: | mythtv uses libfaad for external AAC decoding |
| [05:19:12] | wagnerrp: | due to some deficiencies in the ffmpeg decoders |
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| [05:20:42] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: if irw works, and mythtv doesnt with that config, i dont know what to tell you |
| [05:20:53] | wagnerrp: | is it possible youre pulling the file from a different location than you think? |
| [05:21:07] | wagnerrp: | mythtv pulls from ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [05:21:18] | wagnerrp: | meaning it pulls from the the user directory |
| [05:21:28] | wagnerrp: | if youre running as a different user, it will be in a different directory |
| [05:23:49] | BobLfoot: | not switching users – irw |
| [05:24:16] | wagnerrp: | irw does not use any config file, it just dumps raw signals from lirfcd |
| [05:24:17] | BobLfoot: | should irw give connection refused when lirc is running |
| [05:24:22] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [05:24:39] | Arpman: | why does th eInternal player display 2 copies of the data (on on top of each other) from my iso? aspectratio? |
| [05:25:09] | k_ross: | BobLfoot: did you configure myth with the correct socket path? /dev/lircd or /var/run/lirc <something or another>... |
| [05:26:12] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: I've tried /dev/lircd and /dev/lirc0 — any idea what the correct setting is for F12? |
| [05:26:52] | k_ross: | lircd is the one you want myth to use. lirc0 is the device file for communicating from the kernel module to the lirc daemon |
| [05:28:15] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: /dev/lircd does not exist on my F12 system only /dev/lirc0 |
| [05:28:44] | k_ross: | look under /var/run/lirc...something |
| [05:28:44] | k_ross: | (or is it /var/lib) ? |
| [05:28:57] | k_ross: | i can't remember |
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| [05:29:27] | BobLfoot: | but /var/run/lirc/lircd does exist let me try that. |
| [05:29:37] | k_ross: | yes that's i |
| [05:29:44] | k_ross: | *it |
| [05:32:42] | BobLfoot: | Eureka – It works sort of. Channelup does a jump back and volume doesn't work but volume down does. SO I've some reteaching to do. |
| [05:33:14] | k_ross: | cool. sounds like you're on the right track |
| [05:33:47] | k_ross: | but the lircrc and lircd.conf files you posted looked reasonable |
| [05:34:12] | k_ross: | but i'm sure you'll get it working now that myth sees the remote |
| [05:35:12] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: the biggest issue is it takes 4 or 5 tries for irrecord to see the toggle bit otherwise you ahve to do a -f forced record |
| [05:37:59] | k_ross: | you said irw works correctly, right? |
| [05:38:44] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: irw works correctly for the most part. Some keys don't seem to register but irrecord saw them. |
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| [05:42:12] | k_ross: | well step one is getting irw to show keypresses reliably every time |
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| [05:43:47] | [R]: | in mythweb... all my channels are sorted by channel number properly... but in the guide on the frontend 709 appears at the bottom, after 767... can anyone figure that one out? |
| [05:44:39] | k_ross: | maybe there's a non-numeric character in the channel number. a period perhaps? |
| [05:44:50] | k_ross: | or a space before the 709? |
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| [05:45:40] | [R]: | i just did an export on the SQL |
| [05:45:42] | [R]: | and its '709' |
| [05:45:44] | [R]: | on both instances |
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| [05:50:17] | k_ross: | atsc_major_chan / atsc_minor_chan set to something it shouldn't be? |
| [05:53:26] | [R]: | ah... |
| [05:53:38] | [R]: | its set to the correct thing |
| [05:54:00] | [R]: | but its diff from everyhitng else |
| [05:54:03] | [R]: | brb |
| [05:58:29] | k_ross: | it's been awhile since i looked at the code, but i believe if atsc_minor_chan isn't zero, it sorts by atsc_major_chan / atsc_minor_chan instead of channum |
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| [06:00:50] | [R]: | k_ross: are they used for tuning? |
| [06:01:36] | k_ross: | hmm, i don't think so, but i don't know for sure |
| [06:01:44] | [R]: | yeah, i have a few channels thare are 0/0 |
| [06:01:47] | [R]: | so it must not be used for tuning |
| [06:01:50] | [R]: | let me fix them |
| [06:02:06] | k_ross: | make sure you have a backup first |
| [06:02:24] | [R]: | always |
| [06:03:10] | PaulWay: | Anyone here using minimyth on a Via CLE266-based platform? |
| [06:03:19] | PaulWay: | Or just minimyth at all? |
| [06:08:56] | [R]: | k_ross: looks like i can still tune all the channels and the sorting is good... thanks |
| [06:09:12] | achandra: | anyone got the "select" working in the channel guide? — mine apparently goes into recording options. --posted up about an hour ago on same topic |
| [06:09:32] | [R]: | achandra: there is an option in the settings for 'seelct tunes' or something like that |
| [06:10:15] | achandra: | [R], is that in the key bindings? |
| [06:10:24] | [R]: | achandra: no, its in the guide] |
| [06:11:59] | achandra: | [R], only options in utilities/setup i have are for music tools, video manager, edit keys, and then setup again |
| [06:12:09] | [R]: | look harder |
| [06:12:12] | [R]: | there is one for guide |
| [06:12:16] | [R]: | just like there is one for appearance |
| [06:12:24] | [R]: | (which you didnt' name) |
| [06:16:26] | k_ross: | hmm, i too am having a hard time finding it. it isn't on the program guide settings page |
| [06:17:53] | [R]: | hrm, maye they got rid of it |
| [06:18:00] | [R]: | achandra: are you on NOW or in the future? |
| [06:18:40] | k_ross: | maybe, but on my system hitting select on the program guide goes to that channel, rather than bringing up the recording screen |
| [06:19:02] | k_ross: | the setting is still used, but they jsut got rid of the UI for it? |
| [06:19:32] | achandra: | [R}, got it figured out....thank you! |
| [06:19:50] | achandra: | [R]^^ thanks |
| [06:20:45] | [R]: | wtf, sometimes my swap turns on... and sometimes it doesn't |
| [06:21:31] | k_ross: | achandra: where was the setting? |
| [06:22:39] | achandra: | k_ross, exactly where [R] had said, in tv settings, then program guide....it was just tough to see becaus my toshiba widescreen was blocking the checkbox...i played with the select via keyboard, and got it working |
| [06:22:48] | achandra: | k_ross, just as advertised ;) |
| [06:22:58] | k_ross: | what theme are you using? it isn't in mine :( |
| [06:23:12] | achandra: | k_ross, the standard mythbuntu one.. |
| [06:23:23] | achandra: | k_ross, which distro? |
| [06:24:22] | achandra: | k_ross, utilities/setup -> setup > Tv settings > Program Guide |
| [06:25:00] | k_ross: | yes i have the setup screen, just not the option to enable selecting the channel instead of bringing up the recording screen. i remember it used to be there |
| [06:25:48] | k_ross: | page 1 i have "display genre colors", "display the channel icons", and "show the program guide when starting live tv" |
| [06:26:07] | achandra: | k_ross, "Use Select to change channel in the program guide" option |
| [06:26:21] | k_ross: | i don't have that option |
| [06:26:24] | k_ross: | :( |
| [06:26:28] | achandra: | hit next |
| [06:26:47] | [R]: | achandra: are you on myth 21 or 22? |
| [06:26:52] | achandra: | 22 |
| [06:27:11] | k_ross: | on page 2 is "what to call unknown programs", "what category to give unknown programs", "guide starts at channel", "record threshold", and "allow channel jumping in guide" |
| [06:28:31] | achandra: | as [R] indicates perhaps a 0.22 difference? dunno about 0.21 |
| [06:28:38] | k_ross: | i have .22 |
| [06:28:54] | achandra: | which distro? — or does the theme make a diff? |
| [06:29:00] | [R]: | the theme shoudln't matter |
| [06:29:08] | [R]: | i dont have it either ethough |
| [06:29:24] | achandra: | in mythbuntu it appears with no issues |
| [06:29:45] | k_ross: | not using mythbuntu. debian testing with myth built from source |
| [06:30:28] | achandra: | hmmm perhaps build difference? (grasping here..for a good answer) |
| [06:34:16] | achandra: | [R], any thoughts on getting mythgame to work properly? — read through the guides pretty well with minimal success of getting mames to work. |
| [06:34:32] | [R]: | achandra: huh? |
| [06:34:35] | [R]: | where did that come from? |
| [06:34:50] | achandra: | [R], on to next task ;) |
| [06:35:18] | [R]: | if you have an actual question... ask it |
| [06:35:20] | [R]: | otherwise... |
| [06:35:24] | [R]: | dunno what you want me to say |
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| [06:36:36] | dspDrew: | hey anybody know what the ethernet port is probably for on my motorola dch3200 stb |
| [06:37:12] | [R]: | dspDrew: nothing |
| [06:37:47] | dspDrew: | how bout the firewire port |
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| [06:38:39] | dspDrew: | capturing digital |
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| [06:39:29] | [R]: | if you're going to answer your own questions... |
| [06:40:15] | dspDrew: | sometimes I forget the ? mark |
| [06:40:31] | [R]: | so whats your question |
| [06:41:17] | k_ross: | mdean removed the "use select to change channel" option on 2009-11–13 in r22824 |
| [06:41:43] | k_ross: | i guess it's the default now |
| [06:41:47] | [R]: | how close to 0.22 release was that? |
| [06:41:52] | [R]: | cuz mythbuntu by default uses an rc |
| [06:43:12] | k_ross: | 0.22 release was on 2009-11–06 |
| [06:43:44] | [R]: | well then its in -fixes, and if achandra hasn't updated... tahs why he has it and we don't |
| [06:43:56] | k_ross: | right |
| [06:44:53] | k_ross: | that explains it |
| [06:45:47] | achandra: | k_ross, so at this point, it appears that feature is important enough to me to have it...before upgrading. Is the feature in the next release included? or should I file a bugzilla? |
| [06:46:26] | k_ross: | apparently hitting select in the program guide will change to that channel, and you don't have a choice about it now |
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| [06:46:55] | k_ross: | (which is just the way i like it) |
| [06:47:39] | achandra: | k_ross, i see okay....Ill have to look at the release notes on the updated version r22824 and see if its compelling enough for me to update. Currently have things working okay. |
| [06:48:39] | k_ross: | if things are working, i would say don't touch it! :) |
| [06:49:06] | achandra: | k_ross, yep |
| [06:51:48] | k_ross: | of course, i _never_ follow my own advice |
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| [07:51:37] | waxhead: | hi everyone... |
| [07:52:30] | waxhead: | any suggestions for prolblems with an upgrade not recording files? |
| [07:52:53] | waxhead: | I have the storagegroups setup and Default is pointing to the right place, permissions are correct.. |
| [07:53:03] | [R]: | waxhead: what error is showing up in the backend log |
| [07:54:32] | waxhead: | [R], I'm getting a constant error that it can't delete files /GetPlayBackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/medicantre/1008_ and the date |
| [07:54:54] | waxhead: | which might be a real problem since the recordings disk is 100%.. so if it can't delete it can't record... |
| [07:55:11] | [R]: | well the behavior is undefined |
| [07:55:13] | [R]: | if the disk is full |
| [07:55:19] | waxhead: | it's scanning the videos directory file |
| [07:55:24] | [R]: | you really can't run myth like that |
| [07:55:31] | waxhead: | so manually delete the files? |
| [07:55:38] | waxhead: | I thought myth would clean up what it needed... |
| [07:55:55] | [R]: | well somewhere something got screwed up |
| [07:55:57] | waxhead: | this disk has been at nearly 100% for over a year |
| [07:56:10] | waxhead: | myth just sorts it out.. normally.. |
| [07:56:32] | waxhead: | so the upgrade hasn't gone to plan? |
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| [07:59:53] | waxhead: | oh.. here's the rror Error: GetPlaybackURL: 'filename' should be local, but it can not be found. |
| [08:01:42] | [R]: | well myth expects the file to be there |
| [08:01:43] | [R]: | and its not |
| [08:01:48] | [R]: | so its just shitting on itself |
| [08:02:01] | waxhead: | but why isn't it seeing the file in the right path? |
| [08:02:27] | waxhead: | I've setup the Default to be /mnt/recordings/ so why doesn' it look there? |
| [08:03:42] | [R]: | i dunno, somewhere you scrweed something up |
| [08:03:56] | waxhead: | yeah I know that much... |
| [08:04:18] | waxhead: | hmm.. do I need to set something to tell it which storage group to use when recording??? |
| [08:05:45] | [R]: | it uses the 'Default' storage group for recordings |
| [08:07:40] | waxhead: | which is set correctly |
| [08:08:09] | k_ross: | you can setup myth so it leaves a little more space on the hard drive, so it won't fill it up. go to settings->tv settings->general, then on page 2, adjust the "extra space" parameter |
| [08:08:33] | waxhead: | k_ross, is that on the frontend settings? |
| [08:08:42] | k_ross: | waxhead: yes |
| [08:12:27] | waxhead: | it was set to 1 gig.. I've changed that to 10 for now |
| [08:13:00] | waxhead: | that still doesn't explain why it can't find the files on the file system |
| [08:14:55] | [R]: | it gets that error hwne it records? |
| [08:15:18] | [R]: | it'll get that error |
| [08:15:20] | waxhead: | hmm.. the hostnames are just their short names, not their FQDN, should I set them all back to just local host? |
| [08:15:24] | [R]: | if it thinks a file exists |
| [08:15:30] | [R]: | but it doesnt and it tries to expire it |
| [08:15:35] | [R]: | then it never removes it from the db |
| [08:15:42] | [R]: | but you said it does exist |
| [08:15:43] | [R]: | ? |
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| [08:18:45] | waxhead: | [R], that's right it doesn't remove it from the db.. |
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| [08:20:41] | k_ross: | waxhead: what do you mean about the hostnames? |
| [08:21:07] | waxhead: | k_ross, in the settings they are mediacentre, not the FQDN of my network... |
| [08:22:46] | waxhead: | bugger.. the file it's tring to delete isn't on the file system... |
| [08:22:56] | waxhead: | how do I clean up the db for that? |
| [08:23:41] | k_ross: | waxhead: do you mean in the settings table in the database? i don't know of any place in the UI settings where hostnames are displayed |
| [08:24:16] | k_ross: | also, going into recordings and just deleting from there has always worked for me when the file doesn't exist |
| [08:24:58] | waxhead: | I'm watching the logs and it just expired 2 files fine.. |
| [08:25:20] | waxhead: | gottago |
| [08:25:23] | waxhead: | bbk in a bit |
| [08:25:28] | k_ross: | okk bye |
| [08:32:49] | achandra: | hey guys have an issue with pip. Im using vdpau, have gone through recommendations here – http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU...but seem to peg the cpu at 110%...any ideas on resolving the issue? |
| [08:34:19] | [R]: | sounds like its using software rendering |
| [08:34:20] | k_ross: | i don't thinnk vdpau lets you decode two streams at once |
| [08:34:31] | [R]: | the very newest driver does |
| [08:34:41] | [R]: | well its been supported ofr a while... but with a flag or something |
| [08:35:18] | k_ross: | oh ok |
| [08:41:15] | achandra: | any ideas on fix? |
| [08:44:38] | [R]: | what versino of the driver are you using? |
| [08:44:42] | [R]: | what does it say in the frontend log |
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| [08:45:58] | k_ross: | hmm i just tried it, running 195.22. pip works, but it uses 100% cpu on two cores (out of 4) |
| [08:46:50] | [R]: | how do you do pip? |
| [08:47:08] | k_ross: | menu, picture-in-picture, live tv |
| [08:47:47] | [R]: | i dont see it |
| [08:48:15] | k_ross: | on mine it's the second menu item, right after "program guide" |
| [08:48:34] | [R]: | i dont have progmra guide either |
| [08:48:43] | [R]: | amybe i edited the menu |
| [08:48:45] | [R]: | lemme go chedck taht |
| [08:49:11] | [R]: | yeah i did |
| [08:50:14] | [R]: | oh yeah, that's pegging my cpu |
| [08:50:38] | k_ross: | according to the 195.22 changelog; "VDPAU now allows multiple streams to be decoded at once, without the need to set any environment variables." |
| [08:50:50] | k_ross: | so if myth supports it, i guess it should just work |
| [08:51:12] | k_ross: | i guess now the question is, does myth support it? |
| [08:52:18] | [R]: | reading the log |
| [08:53:33] | achandra: | on frontend at least see the following – NVP(0): prebuffering pause (but im told that typically means little) |
| [08:53:42] | [R]: | 2009-12–27 01:51:51.747 Failed to enable deinterlacing |
| [08:53:43] | [R]: | 2009-12–27 01:51:51.747 AFD: Using ffmpeg for video decoding |
| [08:53:46] | [R]: | i dunno if tahts it |
| [08:53:58] | [R]: | well i never pip |
| [08:54:01] | [R]: | but you could file a bug report |
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| [08:59:33] | achandra: | okay will do |
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| [10:18:09] | waxhead: | right.. still not working |
| [10:18:19] | waxhead: | getting a lot of expiring of files... |
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| [10:32:20] | waxhead: | will myth play mkv files with the internal player these days? |
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| [10:50:57] | Artus36: | Hello all |
| [10:51:06] | Artus36: | I hope you had a nice christmas |
| [10:51:40] | Artus36: | I am currently playing around with my mythtv and found that my sound is broken |
| [10:52:07] | waxhead: | Artus36, did you check the mixer settings? |
| [10:52:18] | waxhead: | or change the soudn server settings? |
| [10:52:50] | Artus36: | I believe its a pulse audio problem |
| [10:53:26] | Artus36: | I am not sure |
| [10:54:13] | [R]: | well myth disables pulse |
| [10:54:50] | Artus36: | ah ok |
| [10:56:57] | Artus36: | and what does it use? |
| [10:57:05] | [R]: | alsa |
| [10:57:15] | [R]: | pulse is just a crappy layer ontop of alsa |
| [10:57:22] | [R]: | whose only purpose is to suck |
| [10:57:23] | [R]: | at life |
| [10:57:26] | Artus36: | yep looks like it |
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| [11:04:31] | Artus36: | but alsa does not work alone |
| [11:04:34] | Artus36: | for me |
| [11:04:38] | Artus36: | pulse does |
| [11:04:45] | Artus36: | I found a howto for using pulse |
| [11:08:16] | stoffel: | iamlindoro: hi. did you design the Terra theme? can i suggest this simple patch to make this translation work? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1728292 |
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| [11:13:59] | [R]: | Artus36: you are doing smoething wrong if you need pulse to make your systme work |
| [11:14:24] | [R]: | stoffel: that thing drives me nuts |
| [11:15:18] | stoffel: | hopefully it will be fixed in time for 0.23 |
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| [11:19:17] | Artus36: | [R]: you think there is something wrong? |
| [11:19:27] | Artus36: | I just made xmms to work with pulse als |
| [11:19:31] | Artus36: | o |
| [11:19:42] | [R]: | if it doesnt work w/o pulse |
| [11:19:45] | [R]: | something is wrong |
| [11:20:01] | Artus36: | hm |
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| [11:25:01] | przemek_: | jest tu ktoÅ› z polski |
| [11:25:03] | przemek_: | ??? |
| [11:25:10] | justinh: | huh? |
| [11:26:00] | gbee: | stoffel: heh, it was switched to the elipsis character because someone complained that '...' wasn't technically correct and that using the proper character would help translation somehow |
| [11:26:35] | przemek_: | na 212 osób żadnego polaka |
| [11:26:42] | przemek_: | ??/ |
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| [11:27:08] | waxhead: | hm... what's the best way to get mythtv's database and file system in sync when it comes to the recordings? |
| [11:29:49] | [R]: | gbee: it doesn't show up correctly here |
| [11:30:30] | [R]: | waxhead: create the file that its complaining about... and then manaully delete it from the frontend |
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| [11:38:05] | justinh: | przemek_: this channel is English speaking only |
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| [11:39:41] | justinh: | gah. reinstalled pulseaudio as the quickest way to get some USB headphones working & now sounds in flash player are like 0.5 seconds late |
| [11:44:02] | waxhead: | ah ha!!! I think I've found it! |
| [11:44:19] | waxhead: | in the settings table there's a setting RecordFilePrefix |
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| [11:52:18] | waxhead: | I've got a lot of entries in the various tables with "OLDHOSTNAME" in the hostname field... |
| [11:53:40] | waxhead: | could I just update the database by replacing oldhost with the current one? |
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| [11:56:02] | oobe: | you could try replacing the hostname's with sed if they are unique enough before restoring the sql dump |
| [11:57:11] | oobe: | or if you mean you already restored the sql dump then you should be able to change the host name from inside mythtv |
| [11:57:47] | waxhead: | oobe, already restored the db a while back |
| [11:58:09] | waxhead: | problem has been with some niggles with recordings not being found etc... |
| [11:58:29] | waxhead: | looking at the settings table a loft of entries have a hostname of 'OLDHOSTNAME' |
| [11:58:31] | oobe: | what are the hostname's |
| [11:58:48] | waxhead: | only one really a single master/front end |
| [12:00:22] | oobe: | this is what i think might be easy " a bit hacky though" dump your current database to an sql file then sed -i 's/oldhostname/newhostname/g' dump.sql |
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| [12:00:34] | oobe: | then restore it |
| [12:00:58] | oobe: | make sure you keep an original copy before you modify it incase it doesnt work |
| [12:01:49] | waxhead: | ok... I'll try that... |
| [12:03:28] | waxhead: | could I get away with only doing it to the settings table? |
| [12:04:06] | oobe: | i havent test that so be careful and take it with a grain of salt |
| [12:04:33] | oobe: | what your old hostname and new hostname |
| [12:04:44] | waxhead: | yeah... |
| [12:04:50] | oobe: | reason i ask is you dont want to replace other instances of that word |
| [12:04:51] | waxhead: | just update the table |
| [12:05:18] | oobe: | like i said what are the hostnames |
| [12:05:42] | oobe: | if they are unique enough then you could easily do the whole database |
| [12:05:59] | waxhead: | update settings set hostname = 'mediacentre' where hostname = 'OLDHOSTNAME'; should do it? |
| [12:06:26] | oobe: | i dont know |
| [12:06:36] | oobe: | im not a sql expert |
| [12:06:55] | oobe: | my advice was completly different to what u are trying |
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| [12:17:07] | justinh: | waxhead: no because the hostname is stored in more places |
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| [12:17:19] | justinh: | rule 1. don't change hostnames |
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| [12:33:18] | oobe: | i have changed distro's and re installed several times with the same database and i have always kept the same hostname |
| [12:33:48] | oobe: | but what i suggested will work waxhead if you dont deviate |
| [12:36:37] | waxhead: | ok... I'll dump the db and edit it... |
| [12:36:49] | waxhead: | seems to have broken a few things just changing the settings table... |
| [12:36:57] | waxhead: | sound is borked |
| [12:37:11] | oobe: | you should of backed up first before trying |
| [12:37:31] | waxhead: | I haven't changed hostnames either.. |
| [12:37:40] | waxhead: | this was a major version upgrade |
| [12:38:07] | waxhead: | I upgraded mythbuntu to 9.10 wiht a clean install.. it's been a battle ever since. |
| [12:39:14] | oobe: | i really hated 9.10 put me right of *buntu |
| [12:39:28] | oobe: | they change to much every release to many cooks in the kitchen |
| [12:39:35] | oobe: | i hate upstart |
| [12:40:10] | waxhead: | oobe, the .10 releases are their experimental ones.. the .04 are hte lts and tend to be more stable |
| [12:40:25] | waxhead: | I'm getting a protocol version check failure now! |
| [12:40:40] | oobe: | yea i know well the .04 each 2 years is anyway |
| [12:40:59] | oobe: | they not expirimental there on much faster release cycles |
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| [12:51:37] | waxhead: | awesome the internal player handles mkv... |
| [12:52:05] | gbee: | uh-huh, has done for at least the last 3 years |
| [12:52:34] | waxhead: | really? |
| [12:52:40] | waxhead: | I always had problems with it |
| [12:52:49] | waxhead: | this is the clearest image I've ever seen! |
| [12:53:13] | waxhead: | this is just fantastic! |
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| [12:54:00] | waxhead: | only just upgraded to .22 though with the latest mythbuntu |
| [12:55:14] | hein1908: | Hello all. |
| [12:55:52] | waxhead: | finally I can silence the windows mediacentre fan boys... |
| [12:56:33] | justinh: | waxhead: what you got? their names & addresses – you put out a hit? |
| [12:57:03] | hein1908: | I've a little question. I tried to "optimize" my remote and I configured some extra keys on my remote. |
| [12:57:07] | justinh: | that's the thing about fan boys. they can't be silenced |
| [12:57:31] | waxhead: | justinh, yeah.. it won't stop. :) |
| [12:57:34] | hein1908: | Now I've the problem, that mythtv reacts only on some keys, not an all. |
| [12:57:54] | waxhead: | justinh, but at least now I won't cop so much crap about shoddy mkv play back... |
| [12:58:16] | hein1908: | lircd seems to work fine, "irw" shows all the keys when I press one on the remote |
| [12:58:39] | justinh: | waxhead: oo you make your own mkv files? what do you use? |
| [12:58:51] | ** justinh stops giving waxhead rope to hang himself with ** | |
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| [12:59:08] | waxhead: | anydvd to rip and ripbot to encode |
| [12:59:18] | justinh: | hein1908: so you also need to edit the lircrc file so mythfrontend can use the other keys |
| [13:00:10] | hein1908: | Yes I know, biut which lircrc is the right one? the one in the home directory the one under .mythtv/lircrc or must I place one in /etc/ |
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| [13:00:44] | justinh: | the one in ~/.mythtv/ |
| [13:01:05] | hein1908: | justinh: Thanks, I'll try that. |
| [13:01:08] | justinh: | mythfrontend uses only ~/.mythtv/lircrc or ~/.lircrc |
| [13:05:09] | hein1908: | justinh: Great, works. |
| [13:05:20] | hein1908: | justinh: Thanks a lot. |
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| [13:10:13] | justinh: | cool. you're welcome :) |
| [13:14:46] | waxhead: | justinh, not everyone with mkv's are watching copies.. |
| [13:14:59] | waxhead: | it's what I do to watch the BD's I buy |
| [13:15:11] | waxhead: | these days it's simpler to just use the ps3 |
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| [13:49:29] | waxhead: | jezzz... so now xfce is doing weird stuff... |
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| [14:01:11] | hein1908: | Just another question. Is there a key combination to wind fast forward when music is playing? |
| [14:02:09] | hein1908: | I tried several keys, but found no kexy combination for fast wind/rewind |
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| [14:32:27] | MrD_: | Hello |
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| [14:45:12] | oobe: | Hello |
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| [14:48:38] | thefRont: | hey there... |
| [14:49:29] | thefRont: | I live in germany and I've just bought a HDHomeRun. It works great when manually tuning to channels via the hdhomerun_config tool but I have problems setting it up in mythtv |
| [14:50:07] | MrD_: | I wonder if anyone here can talk a bit about live preview in 0.22. I read on the mailing list that it doesn't exist; but when I go to the EPG from live TV, the preview box briefly flashes a scaled version of the full-screen image. |
| [14:50:17] | thefRont: | german dvb-t uses t8qam16 for modulation but mythtv only allows me to use 8-VSB, QAM64, QAM128 and QAM256 |
| [14:50:38] | thefRont: | how can I modify mythtv-setup to allow QAM16 as well? |
| [14:50:54] | thefRont: | which is obviously supported by HDHomeRun |
| [14:51:14] | oobe: | MrD_, live preview used to be animated as in it would play motion preview image scaled down but it got delayed when they made .22 cause they re wrote the UI |
| [14:51:41] | thefRont: | btw, I'm using mythtv 0.21 |
| [14:51:59] | MrD_: | OK oobe; so what is the scaled image that I'm seeing (briefly) in the EPG screen? |
| [14:52:21] | oobe: | it should just be a screenshot |
| [14:52:36] | oobe: | if it appears breifly then disappears then somthing is wrong |
| [14:53:31] | MrD_: | oobe: cool. Yes, something is wrong. I've therefore been messing with themes, trying to figure out what is overlaying the screenshot with opaque something or other. |
| [14:55:40] | MrD_: | Oobe: I use a VIA openchrome system, 800MHz. It sometimes works with an FFMPEG renderer – which doesn't fix this screenshot thing. |
| [14:56:03] | justinh: | sounds like a broken video driver |
| [14:56:25] | MrD_: | justinh: Ha! Openchrome broken??? Surely not... |
| [14:57:13] | oobe: | you can mess with settings for preview images in tv settings / playback settings / page 4 |
| [15:00:18] | MrD_: | oobe: what doi you suggest? There are three settings: "generate from bookmark" (checked); "Display live preview" (unchecked at the moment); and "Use hardware accel" (was checked, just tried it unchecked, no change). |
| [15:00:57] | oobe: | MrD_, sorry i can suggest anything as all variations appear to work on my nox |
| [15:01:01] | oobe: | *box |
| [15:01:30] | oobe: | i was merely saying what i knew would affect the settings possibly in a positive way |
| [15:01:39] | MrD_: | Thanks oobe. It's useful just to know that it works for you. |
| [15:02:34] | MrD_: | So on 0.22 I *should* be able to get a static preview image in the EPG screen. |
| [15:03:06] | MrD_: | I guess I'll take that as my goal for now. |
| [15:03:10] | oobe: | i just enabled HW acceleration to test and that seems to of speeded image's up |
| [15:03:16] | thefRont: | so noone has an idea? |
| [15:03:27] | oobe: | i also have generate from bookmark checked which is how i know |
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| [15:06:34] | oobe: | MrD_, try running mythfrontend -v all |
| [15:07:07] | oobe: | this is what i get http://pastebin.ca/1728486 |
| [15:07:29] | oobe: | thefRont, i lost you as soon as you said german sorry |
| [15:08:11] | thefRont: | I just said germany because we use QAM16 here |
| [15:08:21] | MrD_: | OK, I'll try verbose all oobe. |
| [15:08:49] | thefRont: | but I can't set mythtv-setup to QAM16, just QAM64, QAM128, QAM256 and 8-VSB |
| [15:09:07] | oobe: | its a bit difficault to find what ur looking for those as it spews out many irrelevant messages too |
| [15:09:24] | thefRont: | I wonder if I can at least set it to AUTO which should work as well |
| [15:09:55] | oobe: | thefRont, a lot of people have trouble scanning in .22 now but you said your using .21 |
| [15:10:04] | thefRont: | yep |
| [15:10:24] | oobe: | i really dont see why you cant get it to scan QAM16 |
| [15:10:42] | oobe: | have you tried testing the device with dvb-utils |
| [15:11:00] | thefRont: | it's a network tuner. can't test is with dvb-utils |
| [15:11:14] | thefRont: | but I tested it with hdhomerun_config and it can tune perfectly with that |
| [15:12:38] | oobe: | oh sorry i forot it was hdhomerun |
| [15:13:10] | oobe: | i didnt relise hdhomerun made dvb-t models now |
| [15:14:24] | thefRont: | here is a sample of a scan log from hdhomerun_config |
| [15:14:25] | thefRont: | SCANNING: 602000000 (uk-bcast:37, nz-bcast:37) |
| [15:14:25] | thefRont: | LOCK: t8qam16 (ss=100 snq=85 seq=100) |
| [15:14:25] | thefRont: | PROGRAM: 1: 0 Das Erste |
| [15:14:27] | thefRont: | PROGRAM: 65: 0 hr-fernsehen |
| [15:14:29] | thefRont: | PROGRAM: 70: 0 arte/EinsExtra |
| [15:14:31] | thefRont: | PROGRAM: tsid=0x9800 |
| [15:14:39] | oobe: | use pastebin.ca |
| [15:14:44] | thefRont: | sorry |
| [15:14:48] | oobe: | ppl get annoyed about that |
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| [15:15:06] | thefRont: | yeah. I thought with 6 lines I could paste it in here directly |
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| [15:19:16] | thefRont: | here is a screenshot of the scan configuration |
| [15:19:17] | thefRont: | http://the-front.de/pics/hdhomerun_mythtv.png |
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| [15:20:15] | thefRont: | so is there a way to set this parameter to auto somehow? |
| [15:22:14] | oobe: | i dont know but that screenshot says atsc ? |
| [15:22:21] | oobe: | i thought it was dvb-t |
| [15:23:42] | thefRont: | it is dvb-t |
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| [15:27:56] | oobe: | does mythtv-setup know its dvb-t? |
| [15:31:57] | thefRont: | I can't explicitly set it to dvb-t. there is no setting in the tv card options |
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| [15:33:00] | justinh: | it's possible it isn't supported yet |
| [15:35:20] | thefRont: | :( |
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| [15:37:11] | jrusinek: | hi |
| [15:38:23] | jrusinek: | I'm using bttv card with myth 0.21. I've got video and audio capture working well. but the teletext makes a problem. works after tuning to a channel with tvtime and then running alevt, but when using mythtv (PAL-DK, and PAL teletext), picking "T" and page number, does nothing. |
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| [16:20:28] | Artus36: | Hi all, |
| [16:20:35] | Artus36: | does anybody use Fedora 12 with mythtv? |
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| [16:37:20] | iamlindoro: | stoffel, gbee wrote Terra, though I suspect he would be fine with that modification |
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| [16:38:29] | stoffel: | iamlindoro: ok |
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| [16:40:45] | whiteley_: | I'm using a dual tuner HDHomeRun. I can record two shows at once. If it is only recording one show, how to I tell myth to use the other tuner for live TV? |
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| [16:53:10] | DjMadness: | just started work on a new theme (1080p ofcource) only completed the menu so fare, with also custom menu points, http://img686.imageshack.us/i/snapshot1k.jpg/ any feedback critics etc ? |
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| [17:10:32] | oobe: | whiteley_, in tv settings / general 1st page there is a setting called avoid conflict between livetv and scheduled |
| [17:10:56] | oobe: | also you can switch tuners using the m key during livetv playback |
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| [17:25:22] | dspDrew: | with a hvr-2250 is the only way to get HD into this thing via the rf input |
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| [17:41:53] | whiteley_: | oobe: thanks! |
| [17:43:18] | oobe: | np |
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| [17:46:09] | BobLfoot: | I have an interesting problem. I setup mythtv on the box which contains my tuner card and it works well. I used address 127.0.0.1 for both local backend, masterbackend and the IP entry in the frontend. |
| [17:47:50] | BobLfoot: | Once running I changed the IP in the local and master backend to the ip of the machine 192.168.2.201. restarted mysql and mythbackend. But I cannot watch tv when I set the frontend to 192.168.2.201 it still only works at 127.0.0.1, Selinux is permissive and firewall is open on 3306, 6654 and 6653. |
| [17:48:04] | BobLfoot: | what am I missing? |
| [17:49:33] | whiteley_: | oobe: I can't find the setting "avoid conflict between livetv and scheduled". |
| [17:49:46] | whiteley_: | oobe: that is on BE setup, I assume (I'm on 0.22) |
| [17:50:17] | oobe: | no its in the frontend |
| [17:50:38] | oobe: | setup / utils / tv settings / general / page 1 |
| [17:55:01] | whiteley_: | oobe: got it. thanks. |
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| [17:57:28] | oobe: | BobLfoot, check /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and ~/.mythtv/config.xml all have the ip address also make sure you have set it in mythtv-setup section 1 page 1 |
| [18:03:39] | whiteley_: | I can't get my transcode jobs to run. I do have "enable transcode jobs" selected in BE setup. What else do I need to do? |
| [18:04:02] | MartinJT: | quick question... just had to change the mixer volume using the amixer command (via ssh), now I can't get rid of the volume control on the display... |
| [18:04:37] | MartinJT: | I'm on on mythbuntu 9.10 |
| [18:05:24] | oobe: | whiteley_, you need to setup transcoding profiles and enable them in the frontend too |
| [18:05:34] | oobe: | i cant remember all the details |
| [18:06:20] | whiteley_: | oobe: when I schedule recordings, I do check transcode, and select a quality. Is that what you refer to? |
| [18:08:11] | BobLfoot: | oobe: DBHostName=localhost does that need to change to the Ip Address? |
| [18:08:27] | oobe: | yes it does need to change to the ip |
| [18:09:56] | wagnerrp: | whiteley_: the problem with digital tuners and livetv is that they have something called 'multirec' |
| [18:10:10] | wagnerrp: | you have multiple tuners listed for each physical tuner |
| [18:10:30] | wagnerrp: | so when livetv starts up with a recording, you will use the second virtual tuner on the same physical tuner as the recording |
| [18:10:39] | wagnerrp: | preventing you from tuning off the same multiplex as the recording |
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| [18:11:14] | wagnerrp: | dspDrew: the only way to get anything off the hvr-2250 is through the RF input |
| [18:11:16] | whiteley_: | wagnerrp: right. I got it sorted out now. I've configured it to default to the physical tuner that is free, when possible. |
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| [18:11:25] | wagnerrp: | analog tuning/capture is not supported on that card under linux |
| [18:11:51] | wagnerrp: | whiteley_: rather you told it to use the last tuner in the list, not the unused physical tuner |
| [18:12:09] | wagnerrp: | the last tuner in the list just happens to be on the unused physical tuner |
| [18:13:09] | whiteley_: | wagnerrp: "Avoid conflicts between live TV and scheduled shows — If enabled, live TV will choose a tuner card that is less likely to have scheduled recordings rather than the best card available." |
| [18:13:21] | wagnerrp: | right, thats what it says |
| [18:13:31] | wagnerrp: | it does that by choosing the last tuner in the list |
| [18:13:49] | wagnerrp: | while recordings are scheduled starting from the first available tuner in the list |
| [18:14:02] | wagnerrp: | there is no intelligence behind it |
| [18:14:17] | whiteley_: | that's too bad, although it should take care of the problem most of the time. |
| [18:14:18] | wagnerrp: | thats why it says 'less likely' |
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| [18:21:25] | oobe: | does hdhomerun support recording on same multiplex |
| [18:21:35] | wagnerrp: | in 0.22, yes |
| [18:22:27] | oobe: | nice |
| [18:22:48] | oobe: | the whiteley_ should be able to make this work ok then |
| [18:23:08] | foxbuntu: | oobe, I personally record 3 channels per tuner with the HDHR |
| [18:25:29] | oobe: | cool |
| [18:25:42] | oobe: | i can but rarely find myself needing too |
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| [18:34:19] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: I assume you are using trunk am I correct? |
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| [18:34:42] | wagnerrp: | RDV_Linux: yeah, what do you need? |
| [18:35:38] | RDV_Linux: | I tried to sync up today and got a compile error. My Myth compile script almost never fails. See http://pastebin.ca/1728649 |
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| [18:37:52] | wagnerrp: | drop back to 23008 and see what happens |
| [18:38:09] | wagnerrp: | might have to let danielk know about that one |
| [18:38:22] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: How you you drop back I have never had to do that? |
| [18:38:41] | wagnerrp: | oh! there you go... http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7808 |
| [18:38:52] | wagnerrp: | svn up -r 23008 |
| [18:38:55] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: thanks |
| [18:39:58] | BobLfoot: | when restarting mythbackend I get the messaage " chown: invalid user: mythtv:mythtv" Did I miss something in one of the guides? Does my box need a linux user named mythtv? |
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| [18:40:37] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: only if youre trying to run as user mythtv |
| [18:40:46] | wagnerrp: | however the guides, and most distros, expect that you will |
| [18:41:07] | wagnerrp: | im thinking fedora might be running everything as root |
| [18:41:47] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: no I am running as user Bob and trying to get the system to run with the box's IP rather than as localhost so I can get a frontend on another F12 box to connect and operate. |
| [18:42:29] | wagnerrp: | why arent you using your init scripts to run mythbackend? |
| [18:43:31] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: mythbackend is started at init, but it was configured with localhost or 127.0.0.1 as the ip and all runs well locally. |
| [18:43:49] | wagnerrp: | the init script has nothing to do with the IP |
| [18:43:56] | wagnerrp: | that is a setting mythbackend pulls from the database |
| [18:44:13] | BobLfoot: | I need to change it to run with IP 192.168.2.201 so that other frontend from my LAN can access the backend. |
| [18:44:26] | wagnerrp: | correct, so you change it in mythtv-setup |
| [18:44:33] | wagnerrp: | and then run mythbackend as you normally would |
| [18:44:40] | wagnerrp: | using your system's init scripts |
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| [18:46:23] | ope: | hi |
| [18:47:01] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: getting an error from mythtvsetup : no UPnP backends found? |
| [18:47:29] | wagnerrp: | thats fine, youre not currently running a backend that would be broadcasting over upnp |
| [18:47:57] | wagnerrp: | unless youre running mythtv-setup as a user other than that which runs mythbackend |
| [18:48:14] | wagnerrp: | in which case you will have to enter the necessary database credentials |
| [18:48:19] | ope: | following http://paste.pocoo.org/show/159974/ there should be the message about idle, since the 120s are over. The problem is, there is no shutdown after this idle time. Any ideas what happens here? |
| [18:48:21] | BobLfoot: | And after changing the IP I get Cannot login to database? Error popup |
| [18:48:27] | wagnerrp: | mythtv-setup should always be run as the user who runs mythbackend |
| [18:49:53] | Dagmar: | BobLfoot: That should suprise you why? |
| [18:51:07] | foxbuntu: | BobLfoot, what Dagmar means to say is, the system is dependent on the IP, ensure it is set correctly in mythtv-setup and mythfrontend in the general settings |
| [18:51:56] | Dagmar: | What I'm saying is that access controls in mysql are defined by *both* the username and the IP address the connection is coming from. |
| [18:52:06] | Dagmar: | Just look at the grants table. |
| [18:52:13] | Dagmar: | show grants; |
| [18:52:16] | BobLfoot: | Dagmar: wagnerrp – let's backup a little. I had a complete and working mythtv setup on this box, provided I use 127.0.0.1 as the ip in setups. Now I changed it in the two places if mythtv setup and in the frontend and nothing works. How do I debug what is wrong? |
| [18:52:43] | Dagmar: | You've probably got a rule for 'mythtv'@'127.0.0.1' |
| [18:53:02] | BobLfoot: | Give me a couple of mintues and I'll reset what's been changed so everything works locally. |
| [18:53:30] | Dagmar: | I'm pretty sure the acl in mysql is for localhost only still |
| [18:53:57] | Dagmar: | It's one of the more common show-stoppers for people who're splitting their mythtv setup across multiple boxes for the first time |
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| [18:56:54] | BobLfoot: | OK – All specified IP locations in both Backend and Frontend are 127.0.0.1 and I'm plesently watching KC and CIN in a 0–0 3rd and 11 play |
| [18:57:57] | BobLfoot: | So now logically I should change the three IP locations in Front and Backend to the Box IP first? Right? |
| [18:58:52] | wagnerrp: | the backend needs routable IPs for both the local backend IP and master backend IP |
| [18:59:01] | wagnerrp: | the database IP can be 127.0.0.1 |
| [18:59:13] | wagnerrp: | the frontend needs a routable IP for the database IP |
| [18:59:17] | wagnerrp: | and it has no other settings |
| [19:00:03] | ope: | are some well known problems here regards to the shutdown on idle? |
| [19:01:25] | BobLfoot: | Ran Mythtv-setup from gui drop down menu and it prompted to stop the backend. I then changed the IP for local backend and master backend to Boxes IP 192.168.2.201. |
| [19:01:56] | BobLfoot: | Front End Still Works |
| [19:02:46] | BobLfoot: | So do I or do I not change the local frontend IP or deosn't it matter? |
| [19:03:04] | wagnerrp: | there is no local frontend ip |
| [19:03:14] | wagnerrp: | as nothing has to connect to it, mythtv doesnt care where it is |
| [19:04:22] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: I go mythfrontend ; Utilities/setup / setup / general and it asks for a database IP . Thsi to me is the frontend IP. Does it need to be anything special? |
| [19:04:55] | wagnerrp: | it is NOT the frontend ip |
| [19:04:58] | wagnerrp: | it is the database ip |
| [19:05:04] | wagnerrp: | the ip of the machine hosting the mysql database |
| [19:05:29] | Dagmar: | That's why it says "database IP" |
| [19:06:10] | BobLfoot: | Ah ha – and it works when set to 127.0.0.1 but crashes and burns when set to 192.168.2.201 the Ip of the box hosting the mysql database. |
| [19:06:21] | Dagmar: | ope: The "well-known problem" is that people expect it to work without them doing anything to set it up |
| [19:06:41] | wagnerrp: | the backend works with 127.0.0.1, the frontend fails when using the routable IP |
| [19:06:44] | Dagmar: | ...followed closely by "operating system pieces weren't setup by the user" |
| [19:06:47] | wagnerrp: | for the reasons Dagmar explained above |
| [19:07:17] | Dagmar: | Jeez it's looking like there's no freaking HD-PVRs to be had anywhere |
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| [19:07:22] | ope: | following http://paste.pocoo.org/show/159974/ there should be the message about idle, since the 120s are over. The problem is, there is no shutdown after this idle time. |
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| [19:07:39] | ope: | no message |
| [19:07:41] | wagnerrp: | Dagmar: yeah, someone mentioned they started drying up a couple weeks ago |
| [19:07:45] | wagnerrp: | wonder what the reason is |
| [19:08:41] | Dagmar: | I know if I can't find one for sale before tomorrow I'll just be calling Hauppauge and asking WTF |
| [19:08:57] | BobLfoot: | So do I misunderstand something, but If I can't get the "local" frontend to work using a routable Database IP ; there's no hope for "remote" fronends to succeed. right? |
| [19:09:33] | wagnerrp: | if you cannot get the local frontend to work using a routeable (non-loopback) ip, the problem is likely the one Dagmar mentioned above |
| [19:09:42] | wagnerrp: | <Dagmar> You've probably got a rule for 'mythtv'@'127.0.0.1' |
| [19:10:13] | wagnerrp: | that means your database has only given permissions to the localhost ip, you need to grant permissions for all machines that need to connect to the database |
| [19:10:30] | sphery: | ope: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7752 perhaps |
| [19:11:19] | wagnerrp: | Dagmar: if youve got a Frys nearby, they have them in-store |
| [19:11:43] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: mysql noob here ; I followed http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#ss6.2 to get this far and am not sure whre to find the rules you mention or how to edit them. Where would I read about that? |
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| [19:12:13] | wagnerrp: | scroll down about half a page |
| [19:12:36] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: No Fryes here, and Best Buy is too good to carry them in stores apparently or I'd have bought one last week |
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| [19:13:34] | sphery: | BobLfoot: specifically, http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html#modify_perm_mysql |
| [19:13:36] | ope: | ticket 7752 seems related to. But I've not got the message I'm idle now. |
| [19:13:45] | BobLfoot: | the first command mysql -u root mythconverg fails Access Denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| [19:14:04] | wagnerrp: | so give it your password |
| [19:14:29] | sphery: | ope: if you're not getting the messages you see in the logs on #7752, I'd guess it's something else (like, perhaps you have a time-to-not-shutdown-after-initial-wakeup specified) |
| [19:14:30] | wagnerrp: | if you dont know your password, there are guides on the internet explaining how to reset a mysql password |
| [19:14:49] | [R]: | wagnerrp: so my myth system is 100%... its totally awesome (well... except for the fact that i run out of ram on my diskless system and have to use network swap) |
| [19:15:33] | wagnerrp: | [R]: careful using a swap file over NFS |
| [19:15:37] | wagnerrp: | it is known to cause problems |
| [19:15:39] | [R]: | wagnerrp: its not nfs |
| [19:15:41] | [R]: | nbd |
| [19:15:44] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [19:15:55] | Dagmar: | Whaaa... |
| [19:16:03] | Dagmar: | *whew* |
| [19:16:13] | Dagmar: | I thought for a moment there someone might be putting swap onto a remote disk |
| [19:16:17] | [R]: | grrr... i'm watching this auction for RAM... and it ends at 7 in the morning... grrr |
| [19:16:29] | [R]: | Dagmar: thats what i'm doing... |
| [19:16:29] | wagnerrp: | i actually recall something about my system outright refusing to mount a swap block over NFS |
| [19:16:49] | Dagmar: | [R]: Dont' do that, man. It's very, very bad. |
| [19:17:07] | ope: | sphery: how/where to check it? time-to-not-shutdown-after-initial-wakeup specified |
| [19:17:11] | wagnerrp: | it should be fine with NBD... slow, but otherwise fine |
| [19:17:17] | Dagmar: | If the network goes away for ANY REASON it'll have about the same effect as if you just reached in and yanked out a stick of RAM |
| [19:17:20] | wagnerrp: | of course if your network goes down, youre hosed |
| [19:17:23] | [R]: | Dagmar: i have no options... i have no ram |
| [19:17:27] | Dagmar: | The crash will merely take a few seconds longer to happen |
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| [19:17:33] | Dagmar: | You have _local disk_ tho |
| [19:17:35] | [R]: | Dagmar: well its diskless |
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| [19:17:47] | Dagmar: | Then run without swap |
| [19:17:53] | sphery: | ope: I don't know. I don't currently use the shutdown features. |
| [19:17:54] | [R]: | then i OOM |
| [19:18:09] | Dagmar: | Yeah well, you have fun with that when it goes explody-boom them |
| [19:18:16] | [R]: | i know its a bad situation |
| [19:18:25] | [R]: | thats why i'm watching this ram auction |
| [19:18:32] | [R]: | for now it works... its not a long term solution |
| [19:19:51] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: sorry to be such a pain but my.cnf makes no mention of bind-address in it's present state. Do I need to add a bind-address=192.168.2.201 line to the file? |
| [19:20:23] | Dagmar: | No. |
| [19:20:52] | BobLfoot: | thanks Dagmar |
| [19:21:21] | wagnerrp: | [R]: i do something very similar, ive got 2GB of swap at the head of my iSCSI disks for the OOM issues |
| [19:21:43] | [R]: | i'm very surprised the system works at all |
| [19:22:00] | [R]: | everywhere i've read says ION *REQUIRES* 2gb of system ram to allocated 512 to the gpu |
| [19:22:07] | [R]: | but it seems to be working just fine with only 1gb |
| [19:22:22] | wagnerrp: | i figure if i drop connection and lose swap, ive lost the rest of the disk anyway and i cant do any harm |
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| [19:22:50] | wagnerrp: | and if something does manage to happen, i can always just trash the disk, re-image, and be back up and running in under five minutes |
| [19:23:09] | ope: | ok, i disabled wait on frontend for shutdown; Now I get 2009-12–27 20:22:48.117 40 secs left to system shutdown! etc. FE ist not running; only backend |
| [19:23:11] | [R]: | well what i love about my setup... my root is a read-only image |
| [19:23:19] | [R]: | so i can just shut the power and reset it |
| [19:23:25] | [R]: | and clean up anything bad in my read-write overlay |
| [19:23:52] | ope: | ok, reschedule requested;will wait agin 120s |
| [19:23:58] | wagnerrp: | i just have an initial image, and a read-only overlay |
| [19:24:01] | irresponse: | Sorry for the english. I need 1 TV capture card in the server (backend) for each frontend that i will to use? |
| [19:24:25] | wagnerrp: | i duplicate a new image and boot into it, pull in the overlay, and reboot into the now differentiated system |
| [19:24:29] | [R]: | irresponse: you need 1 capture card for every independent tv you want to watch |
| [19:24:43] | wagnerrp: | ive got three different systems running off the same initial image, and a handful of config files |
| [19:24:44] | [R]: | irresponse: if you have 3 frontends and 1 tuner... you can watch/record 1 thing and watch 2 already recorded things |
| [19:24:59] | [R]: | irresponse: idependent tv "stream" |
| [19:25:21] | irresponse: | [R]: thanks, i got it |
| [19:25:27] | wagnerrp: | Dagmar: ive got one site thats actually listing new stock will be in on the 2nd |
| [19:25:42] | [R]: | irresponse: and then if you are on a system with digital multiplexes... you can watch/record 2 things on the same multiplex with 1 card |
| [19:25:56] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: Yeah, screw them, too. I want it NAO |
| [19:26:16] | wagnerrp: | this one still appears to be in stock... http://3btech.net/hahdpvrhide7html |
| [19:26:21] | Dagmar: | I'm trying to get the bloody thing in before the 1st so I can for the first time watch Doctor Who on release day without doing anything "fancy" |
| [19:26:24] | irresponse: | other thing, hauppage cards are PCI, right? what new mobo will have 3 PCI's slots (at minimum?) |
| [19:26:36] | wagnerrp: | assuming they actually have a system in place to list as out of stock |
| [19:26:38] | wagnerrp: | thats questionable |
| [19:26:45] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: Dagmar oobe and any others I might miss – Thanks the remote frontend is now working awesome. Thanks a bunch guys. YOur patience with a mysql and myth newb is appreciated. |
| [19:26:54] | Dagmar: | Yeah I'm walking the Froogle list reading reviews to find out |
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| [19:27:38] | Dagmar: | Then when I find someone who actually has one, I'll see if they've got an 8300/8400 card |
| [19:27:59] | wagnerrp: | heh... dont trust your old athlon to manage? |
| [19:28:11] | wagnerrp: | you have a 4850, right? |
| [19:28:17] | Dagmar: | The CPU has _just_ enough oomph to play back h.264 |
| [19:28:33] | Dagmar: | I'd rather use GPU accelleration |
| [19:28:40] | wagnerrp: | well this is odd... HDPVR model 1219 |
| [19:28:43] | oobe: | BobLfoot, i dont remember helping but thanks for thanking us all |
| [19:28:48] | wagnerrp: | ive only seen model 1212 |
| [19:29:00] | Dagmar: | 1219 is a 1212 with a _french_ manual. |
| [19:29:06] | Dagmar: | Already been down that road |
| [19:29:17] | [R]: | is that really the only differnece? |
| [19:29:27] | [R]: | wagnerrp: where are you seeing it? cuz i thought everyone was out of stock |
| [19:29:33] | Dagmar: | My gaming machines have 4850e's. My Myth box (after looking because I coudln't remember) has a Athlon 64 3200+ |
| [19:29:52] | wagnerrp: | [R]: only site ive found not listed as OOS is the one i linked to above |
| [19:30:02] | wagnerrp: | but its very possible they dont even have an OOS mechanism |
| [19:30:26] | [R]: | i love it when i watch prices and things are higher than what i paid |
| [19:30:27] | Dagmar: | [R]: the site he's looking at is probably the same one I was that has both the 1212 and the 1219. One of the review commenters explained they called Hauppauge to find out, and I already dug around elsewhere |
| [19:30:51] | [R]: | wagnerrp: dell has it for 240 aparently |
| [19:30:53] | irresponse: | i will use ASROCK nettops without HD's for 3 frontends, and a powerfull machine in the backend, for work not only for MythTV, but also how NAS, firewall, torrent, etc etc. All my questions are about this backend, the hardware needed |
| [19:30:54] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: Yeah with the price they're showing I'm just assuming they're out of stock . They have a number to call to find out |
| [19:30:58] | Dagmar: | It's closed today. |
| [19:31:06] | [R]: | Dagmar: thats what i've read... but it just seems so stupid |
| [19:31:12] | wagnerrp: | http://www.electronicsdirectusa.com/product/HAUPHDPVR |
| [19:31:27] | Dagmar: | They've also got a little blurb on the bottom of their page about "Paying for 2nd day shipping DOES NOT guarantee 2-day delivery. Call to check availability blah blah blah" |
| [19:31:33] | wagnerrp: | although i wouldnt buy from them on principle alone |
| [19:31:50] | wagnerrp: | marking the item as 'MSRP: $341.68' |
| [19:32:05] | wagnerrp: | those are some shenanigans right there |
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| [19:32:22] | wagnerrp: | someone needs to be pistol whipped |
| [19:32:33] | [R]: | i've never heard of it being 341 |
| [19:32:39] | [R]: | i thought msrp was like 270 or so |
| [19:32:40] | wagnerrp: | thats because its not |
| [19:32:47] | wagnerrp: | it has ALWAYS been $250 |
| [19:32:59] | [R]: | 250, 270... same thing |
| [19:32:59] | Dagmar: | 3BTech has a mechanism for telling you they're out of stock. Just click "Add to cart" and it tells you right away. |
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| [19:33:12] | wagnerrp: | it was released for that price, its been that price ever since |
| [19:33:31] | [R]: | ebay has one that's only been used for 2 weeks |
| [19:33:36] | [R]: | guy got it... couldn't get it working... and gave up |
| [19:34:36] | Dagmar: | Hauppauge has something hilarious on their website |
| [19:34:46] | Dagmar: | "Please note: our offices will be closed Thursday, November 26 to Sunday, November 29. Our webstore will be open to accept orders, but no shipments will be made until Monday November 30. " |
| [19:34:55] | Dagmar: | I'm pretty sure they meant december |
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| [19:36:29] | [R]: | i love it when people buy things and have no clue what they are buying |
| [19:36:43] | [R]: | this guy wrote a review on the IONITX saying it couldn't play HD |
| [19:37:19] | wagnerrp: | well it cant really... unless you use VDPAU/DXVA |
| [19:37:47] | [R]: | which is why he had no clue what he was buying |
| [19:38:00] | wagnerrp: | crap... out of battery |
| [19:38:11] | Dagmar: | These guys need to learn to _always_ set a buyout price |
| [19:38:29] | wagnerrp: | you know, i loaded up the contacts on my mouse with solder so i could actually reliably connect it to the base |
| [19:38:39] | wagnerrp: | and i still forget to do so and let it run down |
| [19:38:43] | Dagmar: | heh |
| [19:40:26] | wagnerrp: | Dagmar: you see the speculation threads that hauppauge has stopped shipments due to some new product to be unveiled at CES? |
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| [19:42:36] | [R]: | wagnerrp: i swear... if they make something better... i'll be so pissed |
| [19:43:07] | wagnerrp: | well the idea would be an updated device, maybe different encoder chip |
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| [19:43:44] | [R]: | so i found a bug in myth |
| [19:43:54] | [R]: | but i want to be able to attach a patch to a bug report |
| [19:44:26] | wagnerrp: | 'the demand on the hdpvr has been tremendous and we have not been able to keep up with production so there is limited stock in the channel. we are hoping to have stock for these e-tailers by mid to end of jan. there is no newer version coming out. regards, hauppauge sales team.' |
| [19:44:32] | wagnerrp: | dagmar, theres your answer |
| [19:44:42] | sphery: | [R]: what bug? |
| [19:44:55] | Dagmar: | I found a place that has two |
| [19:45:04] | Dagmar: | I'll let you know who once I've secured MIND |
| [19:45:06] | Dagmar: | er MINE |
| [19:45:12] | [R]: | sphery: when you are in the guide in livetv... it'll do a remote file transfer to download the icons if they don't exist locally... but when you are doing browse mode, it doesn't use the local cache... it uses the path in the db |
| [19:45:20] | [R]: | Dagmar: rofl |
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| [19:45:47] | wagnerrp: | we all know your mind is forever gone, no chance of securing that |
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| [19:49:04] | sphery: | [R]: ah... it sounded familiar, so I was looking for a ticket, but there doesn't seem to be one. Must have heard you mention it in here before. |
| [19:49:22] | sphery: | we would /definitely/ appreciate a patch with the ticket, though, so thanks for working on it :) |
| [19:50:00] | wagnerrp: | when youre in livetv, in the EPG, and you scroll down to a new channel |
| [19:50:06] | wagnerrp: | how do you select to watch that new channel |
| [19:50:15] | [R]: | wagnerrp: just hit select |
| [19:50:17] | wagnerrp: | since the standard ok/enter button brings up the record menu |
| [19:50:20] | sphery: | [R]: may also be affected by the osd's mythui conversion |
| [19:50:22] | [R]: | wagnerrp: are you on -fixes? |
| [19:50:27] | sphery: | (i.e. might get fixed because of that) |
| [19:50:34] | wagnerrp: | im not using livetv |
| [19:50:36] | [R]: | sphery: :( |
| [19:50:43] | wagnerrp: | there was just someone in here last night asking about that |
| [19:50:48] | wagnerrp: | and i remember noticing the same behavior |
| [19:50:50] | [R]: | wagnerrp: yeah... we figured that one out |
| [19:50:56] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Select changes channel is always enabled |
| [19:50:59] | wagnerrp: | and never bothering to figure out how to work around it |
| [19:51:03] | wagnerrp: | since i never used livetv |
| [19:51:07] | [R]: | select changes channel was changed in -fixes |
| [19:51:13] | [R]: | before that it was an option that defaulted off |
| [19:51:18] | sphery: | if you select a show that is currently airing or starts within a <setting> time (by default 16min), it changes channel |
| [19:51:26] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [19:51:29] | sphery: | if you select a show that starts later, it allows recording |
| [19:51:39] | sphery: | don't remember the setting name, but it's pretty obvious |
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| [19:52:00] | sphery: | if you have a -fixes version before the patch they mentioned (where I fixed it), you have to enable select changes channel |
| [19:52:01] | noaXess: | hi all |
| [19:52:14] | noaXess: | have problem to install mythtv-frontend on a system that have nvidia-glx-190 installed from vdpau repo.. look here http://paste.ubuntu.com/347721/ |
| [19:52:23] | noaXess: | mythtv-frontend: Depends: libmyth-0.22–0, libmyth-0.22–0: Depends: nvidia-185-libvdpau |
| [19:52:44] | [R]: | noaXess: you need to use the mythbuntu repo |
| [19:52:44] | wagnerrp: | noaXess: ubuntu package issues should be directed at ubuntu/mythbuntu |
| [19:53:03] | sphery: | noaXess: though I can't help (don't know *buntu), make sure you mention whether it's the official mythbuntu repo or JYA's (because they do nvidia drivers differently) |
| [19:53:29] | noaXess: | sphery: ok.. where can i find the mythbuntu repo's? |
| [19:53:52] | sphery: | I'll leave that to someone who knows *buntu :) |
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| [19:54:11] | [R]: | noaXess: from their website |
| [19:54:43] | noaXess: | ok |
| [19:54:46] | noaXess: | thanks |
| [19:55:28] | Dagmar: | Freaking Amazon is kinda screwing me over |
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| [19:56:38] | [R]: | isn't that their job? |
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| [20:00:22] | Dagmar: | THey're not giving me any way to select 2-day UPS shipping |
| [20:09:54] | ope: | gn8 |
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| [20:13:11] | [R]: | does anyone know how to make myth NOT say the name of the input when you start livetv? |
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| [20:14:41] | oobe: | why would you want to do that |
| [20:14:56] | [R]: | i don't care what input it is using |
| [20:15:03] | [R]: | i'll know right away if its not using the one i want |
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| [20:30:05] | Dagmar: | WEll, I placed and order directly with Hauppauge |
| [20:30:31] | Dagmar: | There was a place called Ultra-Digital on Amazon that claimed to have two units available, but since you can't select anything but Standard Shipping through that mechanism, they fail |
| [20:30:49] | [R]: | how much? |
| [20:31:14] | wagnerrp: | MSRP |
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| [20:32:38] | Dagmar: | Yep |
| [20:33:11] | Dagmar: | If they give me some hemming and hawing about not shipping it for several days after I paid for 2-day shipping I'll have no qualms about cancelling that order |
| [20:33:29] | [R]: | fixing this icon bug is a lot harder than i thought it was going to be |
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| [20:42:10] | Fleck: | hi all, i have problem, just installed mythbuntu 9.10, added my tevii s640 card, configured diseqc etc... but i can't scan channels – getting Programmer Error ( i can scan in terminal using scan command ) |
| [20:42:19] | BobLfoot: | When should mythtv delete a recording I request to be deleted thru manage recordings? |
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| [20:43:04] | [R]: | BobLfoot: i think i read something about a deleted group or something |
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| [20:44:14] | BobLfoot: | [R]: well I'm kind of suspicious because Manage recordings – Delete Recordings brings me to a page labelled Watch Recordings |
| [20:44:34] | [R]: | i also think i remember someone saying somethinga bout deleting being broken or something |
| [20:44:38] | [R]: | but i dont remember in what context that was |
| [20:44:49] | [R]: | i always delete frmo watch |
| [20:44:51] | [R]: | and it works just fine |
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| [20:46:19] | k_ross: | BobLfoot: on settings->tv settings->general->page 2, there's a setting called "auto expire instead of delete". if it's checked, it will move the deleted recording into a "deleted" group |
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| [20:46:26] | k_ross: | otherwise it will just delete it |
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| [20:47:56] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: "auto expire instead of delete" is not checked. |
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| [20:50:31] | BobLfoot: | I just went Manage Recordings — Delete Recordings — Select and Highlight a recording — Press D — respond Yes, delete it to the are you sure you want to delete — and nothing seems to ahve happened. The recording is still there. |
| [20:51:01] | [R]: | any errors in the backend? |
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| [20:51:46] | BobLfoot: | [R]: where would I find / see backend errors? |
| [20:52:03] | BobLfoot: | Also if I watch and then select D it does delete as expected. |
| [20:52:07] | k_ross: | i've seen that happen before if the file doesn't exist. are you able to watch the recording that you're trying to delete? |
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| [20:52:21] | k_ross: | ok never mind |
| [20:52:30] | [R]: | BobLfoot: generally in the backend log... |
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| [20:52:55] | BobLfoot: | [R]: forgive my ignorance ; location of the backend log is? |
| [20:53:10] | [R]: | wherever yo uput it |
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| [20:53:36] | k_ross: | try /var/log/mythtv for starters |
| [20:53:58] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: I will especially since I've taken nothing but defaults |
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| [20:56:25] | Fleck: | help guys...? point me on some good manual or... dunno :/ |
| [20:56:40] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: [R] this may be a stupid question, but is there a way to get the mythtv video to window, ie not occupy the full screen. So I could check logs without shutting down mythtv. |
| [20:57:05] | [R]: | BobLfoot: never heard of alt tab? |
| [20:57:06] | k_ross: | if you're using gnome, you can switch to another desktop |
| [20:57:15] | [R]: | i do it all the time |
| [20:58:43] | BobLfoot: | [R]: I tried alt tab, but got only myth as a selection – let me try it again. k_ross yes I'm running gnome on this box. |
| [20:59:14] | k_ross: | in gnome, to switch desktop, use Ctrl+Alt+Left Arrow or Right Arrow |
| [20:59:17] | [R]: | then no other windows are running |
| [20:59:20] | [R]: | if only myth is showing up |
| [20:59:49] | BobLfoot: | [R]: you're right alt-tab did work to bring up the terminals I had open. |
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| [21:02:33] | k_ross: | Fleck: there's a link to documentation from the main mythtv.org web page |
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| [21:03:10] | Fleck: | k_ross yeah but there isn't much about satellite configs... |
| [21:05:20] | k_ross: | Fleck: like DVB-S? or Dish Network / DirecTV? |
| [21:05:34] | Fleck: | DVB-S/S2 |
| [21:05:57] | Fleck: | with diseqc |
| [21:06:21] | k_ross: | i don't have any experience with that. did you search the wiki and user mailing list archives? |
| [21:06:48] | Fleck: | wiki yes, mailing list – no |
| [21:07:05] | Fleck: | but i did search google with my error |
| [21:07:11] | Fleck: | no results found |
| [21:07:48] | k_ross: | what's the error? |
| [21:09:14] | Fleck: | Programmer error: Failed to handle tune complete |
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| [21:12:10] | k_ross: | hmm, i would suggest the mythtv-user mailing list. lots of people on there using dvb-s |
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| [21:20:39] | BobLfoot: | sweet Thanks for all the help everyone. I've got my backend, local and remote frontend's working. And I can watch live tv on one front end and recorded tv on another. Sweet. |
| [21:22:18] | k_ross: | cool |
| [21:23:20] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: yeah I was surprised that 56 Meg wireless would support decent video but it does. |
| [21:23:32] | jya: | sphery: the mythbuntu repo switched to the same packaging of libvdpau as my repo now (and so does Debian now) |
| [21:23:54] | k_ross: | not HD i presume |
| [21:25:05] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: broadcast tv 720p |
| [21:25:50] | k_ross: | well i wouldn't count on it remaining reliable. |
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| [21:28:07] | PiousMinion: | Does mythtv (frontend or backend) have specific video card requirements? |
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| [21:29:07] | k_ross: | it needs an X driver that supports at least Xv. which rules out the vesa driver |
| [21:29:23] | [R]: | well it doesn't "need" xv |
| [21:29:23] | wagnerrp: | PiousMinion: generally... that means buy nvidia |
| [21:29:24] | [R]: | :) |
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| [21:29:47] | wagnerrp: | well yeah, it does 'need' xv |
| [21:30:00] | PiousMinion: | Well, I have ab onboard intel i810 which does a minimum of 24 (not 32) bit color and idk about it's 3D features. |
| [21:30:13] | wagnerrp: | anyone suggestion the use of framebuffers or x11/xshm should be slapped |
| [21:30:22] | k_ross: | PiousMinion: are you watching any HD content, or just SD? |
| [21:30:49] | PiousMinion: | k_ross: just SD for now. |
| [21:31:07] | k_ross: | onboard i810 is probably sufficient |
| [21:32:14] | PiousMinion: | I've yet to see a TV that shows any benefit of HD. Only difference I see is even fuzz (SD) vs. blocky fuzz (HD). :P |
| [21:32:33] | wagnerrp: | youve obviously not seen HD content on an HD tv |
| [21:32:53] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:33:09] | PiousMinion: | wagnerrp: no no, I have. Take a close up look at your TV when it's showing somethign gradient like cloads or water. |
| [21:33:16] | BobLfoot: | Can someone recommend a guide for getting the second tuner of my card working. I've got the DVB tuner allowing me to watch Digital TV. Now I want to setup the old analog tuner so I can watch old analog channel 4 which is output by my Dish network receiver. |
| [21:33:21] | [R]: | you're not supposed to sit 1 inch away from your tv |
| [21:33:50] | wagnerrp: | PiousMinion: either youre watching your TV paused (in which case you see FAR more artifacts than you would in normal viewing) |
| [21:33:56] | PiousMinion: | [R]: so this so-called "quality" is really "perceived quality" ... "if" you sit at a dsitance? |
| [21:33:59] | wagnerrp: | or youre getting piss poor bitrates on your content |
| [21:34:03] | [R]: | BobLfoot: what does the linuxtv website say about your card? |
| [21:34:08] | [R]: | BobLfoot: some cards the analog side isn't supported |
| [21:34:28] | [R]: | PiousMinion: anything is gonna look like crap if you look at something 1 inch away |
| [21:34:28] | wagnerrp: | who cares about anything other than perceived quality? |
| [21:34:33] | wagnerrp: | if it looks better, what else matters |
| [21:34:42] | k_ross: | PiousMinion: comcast by chance? |
| [21:34:54] | PiousMinion: | [R]: hence my statement of even fuzz vs blocky fuzz. |
| [21:35:00] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:35:01] | PiousMinion: | k_ross: god no. hehe |
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| [21:35:26] | PiousMinion: | I don't notice it really looking better at a distance either. |
| [21:35:31] | BobLfoot: | [R]: linuxtv website? you mean mythtv.org? |
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| [21:35:50] | [R]: | BobLfoot: no... i mean linuxtv.org |
| [21:35:52] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: he means the linuxtv website... |
| [21:35:54] | [R]: | if i meant mythtv... i would have said mythtv |
| [21:36:10] | BobLfoot: | ok I'll google for that |
| [21:36:15] | wagnerrp: | dont google |
| [21:36:20] | wagnerrp: | just type it in to your browser |
| [21:36:43] | [R]: | i gave you the freakin url |
| [21:36:52] | wagnerrp: | http://linuxtv.org ... there, now you can click the link |
| [21:36:54] | k_ross: | BobLfoot: linuxtv.org is the home of the drivers for the video cards that mythtv uses |
| [21:37:13] | k_ross: | s/video/capture/ |
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| [21:37:45] | BobLfoot: | some chat lag [R] I jsut got your url |
| [21:41:40] | [R]: | That was your mistake. Any time I try to show someone what Myth can do it |
| [21:41:40] | [R]: | decides to make a liar of me and misbehave in some manner. It functions |
| [21:41:40] | [R]: | perfectly if I am by myself. |
| [21:41:41] | [R]: | haha |
| [21:42:33] | wagnerrp: | [R]: i actually had that to much benefit a couple years ago |
| [21:42:42] | wagnerrp: | got me out of having to set up (and maintain) a myth box for a friend |
| [21:42:49] | [R]: | so i need a real hostname for my frontend... right now it just uses it's mac address... i have rbox for my desktop, rtop for my laptop, and mythbox for my backend... so what name would go with that "theme" for my frontend? |
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| [21:43:43] | [R]: | i have an ssh alias called 'mythfront'... but i don't like that enough to actually amek taht it's hostname |
| [21:45:29] | AndyCap: | [R]: obviously you're not up to speed on quantum bogodynamics. :) http://catb.org/jargon/html/Q/quantum-bogodynamics.html |
| [21:45:58] | k_ross: | |
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| [21:46:30] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: and [R] another stupid question. Found linuxtv.org and wiki supported hardware page. But it refers to a V4L-DVB wiki to lookup devices in and provides no link to the other wiki. ideas? |
| [21:46:50] | [R]: | BobLfoot: huh? |
| [21:46:57] | [R]: | "the other wiki"? |
| [21:47:14] | wagnerrp: | the link to the 'v4l-dvb wiki' is right on the front page |
| [21:47:20] | AndyCap: | BobLfoot: there was a dvb and a v4l wiki once upon a time if I remember correctly. and now they've merged? |
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| [21:49:00] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: call me blind I'm not seeing a V4L-DVB wiki link on this page http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| [21:49:20] | k_ross: | um, that IS the v4l-dvb wiki |
| [21:49:40] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: that is not the front page of the linuxtv.org website |
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| [21:50:08] | wagnerrp: | linuxtv.org is the home of the v4l and dvb projects |
| [21:50:13] | k_ross: | look in the third column, "hardware device information" for information about your capture card |
| [21:50:15] | wagnerrp: | hence their wiki IS the v4l-dvb wiki |
| [21:52:19] | [R]: | so a friend is really pushing me to set up mythgame... and i was playing some SNES roms last night... is it just me or were like all snes games so really super crappy? |
| [21:52:58] | GreyFoxx: | Compared to modern games on modern resoluton TV's they were |
| [21:53:06] | [R]: | lol |
| [21:53:08] | BobLfoot: | Ok wagnerrp I start looking in the hardware device information links to the right – I'm trying to figure out if mt card is supported. http://fpaste.org/iM4m/ It's called a Conexant with subsystem hauppage. |
| [21:53:13] | k_ross: | i think people who like to play those old games do so for the nostalgia of it |
| [21:53:14] | AndyCap: | [R]: get off my lawn |
| [21:53:18] | GreyFoxx: | but nowadays it takes years to put out a decent game with acceptible graphics |
| [21:53:22] | [R]: | AndyCap: lol |
| [21:53:27] | GreyFoxx: | before you didn't have that problem |
| [21:53:34] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: what is your card? |
| [21:53:41] | ** AndyCap likes Donkey Kong Country ** | |
| [21:53:51] | GreyFoxx: | I loved that :) |
| [21:54:08] | [R]: | AndyCap: was that the one that you could switch between donkey and diddy and it has the bananas and stuf? |
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| [21:54:31] | wagnerrp: | the card you have installed in your computer, what is the brand and model? |
| [21:54:36] | AndyCap: | diddy? Donky Kong Junior and Senior |
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| [21:55:12] | freakwent2: | I Was here a while ago and shamed because I was trying to use a p4 2.4Ghz as a front& backend. |
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| [21:55:17] | [R]: | how are playstation (1) emulators? |
| [21:55:22] | [R]: | i have some playstation dics somewhere |
| [21:55:28] | freakwent2: | that's all fixed now and I have a new rig set up. |
| [21:55:28] | BobLfoot: | wagnerrp: came from the vendor HP pre-installed So I have only the information we can gather from it electronically and visually if I shut down and open the machine. |
| [21:55:42] | wagnerrp: | freakwent2: depends on what youre trying to use it for... a 2.4 P4 is insufficient for decoding anything HD |
| [21:55:46] | AndyCap: | freakwent2: heh, I used that for a while with a framegrabber and SD. :) |
| [21:55:49] | [R]: | BobLfoot: well what module does it use |
| [21:56:08] | k_ross: | BobLfoot: google says it's probably a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR1800 |
| [21:56:14] | k_ross: | using the cx23885 driver |
| [21:56:28] | Cyrexion: | Hello All. Do there exist any programmable RF Modules for linux? |
| [21:56:30] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: in that case, you cannot use analog with that card, not yet anyway |
| [21:56:35] | freakwent2: | However.... now on my nice fast rig, I can't resize the mthtv overlay, it's too small and the black triangles in tv settings can reduce it but not nelarge it. |
| [21:56:41] | [R]: | Cyrexion: rf what |
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| [21:56:55] | Cyrexion: | RF transceivers |
| [21:56:59] | wagnerrp: | BobLfoot: linux supports analog capture on the HVR-1800 just fine, however there is a bug in the driver that causes it not to work with mythtv |
| [21:57:06] | [R]: | Cyrexion: what do you want to do with these rf transceivers? |
| [21:57:19] | wagnerrp: | Cyrexion: 'rf tranceiver' is a very generic term |
| [21:57:23] | Cyrexion: | control RF devices (lights) |
| [21:57:32] | [R]: | Cyrexion: you mean like x10? |
| [21:57:44] | freakwent2: | also, I seem to have no support for optical media; there's no menu item for optical disks on this new install. Is that a compile-time option? I'm on gentoo. |
| [21:57:44] | wagnerrp: | x10, but radio controlled, rather than powerline |
| [21:57:51] | Cyrexion: | yes, exactly... but something I can program via linux |
| [21:57:53] | ** freakwent2 braces for derisive laughter ** | |
| [21:57:54] | [R]: | freakwent2: you need mythvideo |
| [21:57:59] | [R]: | Cyrexion: lots of people use x10 in linux |
| [21:58:07] | AndyCap: | Cyrexion: what is in the other end? |
| [21:58:11] | wagnerrp: | freakwent2: mythtv does not natively support optical disks, like [R] said, you need mythvideo or mythmusic |
| [21:58:22] | freakwent2: | okay thaks! |
| [21:58:25] | AndyCap: | Cyrexion: sure you can get gnu radio, but that's expensive and complicated. :) |
| [21:58:30] | freakwent2: | any ideas about the screensize? |
| [21:58:32] | AndyCap: | and overkill. :P |
| [21:58:45] | [R]: | AndyCap: i once looked into gnu radio |
| [21:58:59] | [R]: | AndyCap: but then the guys at my work would REALLY make fun of me |
| [21:59:06] | [R]: | (i work on software defined radios at work) |
| [21:59:07] | AndyCap: | [R]: hopefully not for blinking the lights at home. :P |
| [21:59:33] | AndyCap: | [R]: heh, why would they, it's not that bad even though it's state of the art |
| [21:59:51] | [R]: | AndyCap: they think its weird that computers is my hobby when i work on them all day at work |
| [22:00:20] | [R]: | of course this one hardware guy that makes fun of me has 2 fpga dev boards on his desk at home... so what does he know |
| [22:00:22] | AndyCap: | [R]: hah, then they shouldn't be dissing gnuradio if they only have it as a dayjob. :) |
| [22:00:25] | Cyrexion: | I have a RF controlled ceiling fan... ideally, I would like to "learn" of the RF signals that the remote uses to control the lights in the fan (on, off, dim)... and basically have my linux box (mythbox) control the lights |
| [22:00:40] | AndyCap: | [R]: heh I was going to ask if any of them were radio amateurs or something. :) |
| [22:01:06] | [R]: | this one guy used to be a ham... but hes just in system test... not engineering |
| [22:01:24] | AndyCap: | Cyrexion: Well. do you know what frequency it uses. |
| [22:01:50] | Cyrexion: | the exact numerical frequency? not off-hand, but I can do some research |
| [22:01:54] | k_ross: | BobLfoot: here's the V4L page for your card, just for reference: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1800 |
| [22:02:08] | AndyCap: | Cyrexion: you could look at the fcc approval for the remote I guess. |
| [22:02:56] | k_ross: | at least i think that's your card. does it look like it, physically? |
| [22:03:05] | AndyCap: | Cyrexion: and I'm sure some people have done stuff in the area earlier. I do know telldus.se makes a 433 mhz transmitter for a few remote light switches. and there was another kit for receiving and transmitting mentioned here earlier. |
| [22:03:18] | AndyCap: | Cyrexion: rfxcom I think |
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| [22:04:32] | Cyrexion: | ok... all the remote states in regards to FCC is: "Complies with FCC rules part 15" |
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| [22:19:23] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: thanks for the link – I see now that mythtv finds the card as a |
| [22:20:12] | BobLfoot: | /dev/video0 but I've been ubsuccessful to configure it to show live tv |
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| [22:24:41] | [R]: | wow |
| [22:24:45] | [R]: | this playstatino emu is sorta working |
| [22:27:45] | wagnerrp: | impressive, considering even sony gave up on pulling that off |
| [22:28:50] | [R]: | i mean the game didnt load |
| [22:28:54] | [R]: | but it had a loading screen |
| [22:30:28] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: uh, what? |
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| [22:30:45] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: that is definitely my card. A closer look at the v4L card descriptor shows it lsited there also. |
| [22:31:27] | wagnerrp: | AndyCap: they removed PS1/PS2 emulation from the latest systems |
| [22:31:39] | PiousMinion: | I have a wintv card, but I can't figure out from the stickers on it which wintv card it is. Ideas? |
| [22:32:03] | Dagmar: | Googleing, Googleing, lspci -vv and more Googling. |
| [22:32:24] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: PS2, they still sell PS1 games and that works fine. |
| [22:32:32] | [R]: | this movei is so stupid |
| [22:32:34] | [R]: | if the driver is dead |
| [22:32:38] | [R]: | why hasn't the car stopped moving |
| [22:32:48] | freakwent2: | I've had ps1 emulation working fine in the past under windows but I don't know what the software was called. |
| [22:32:59] | wagnerrp: | PiousMinion: the PVR cards all list their model number on the tuner box, anything else you can just throw away |
| [22:33:11] | freakwent2: | [R] cruise control |
| [22:33:11] | wagnerrp: | [R]: inertia? |
| [22:33:19] | [R]: | wagnerrp: but it would have slowed down eventually |
| [22:33:21] | [R]: | and it never slowed down |
| [22:33:24] | [R]: | freakwent2: no |
| [22:33:55] | [R]: | and it was bouncing all over the place |
| [22:33:55] | wagnerrp: | muscle spasm kicked his right leg, and locked the knee |
| [22:33:58] | [R]: | and it still never slowed |
| [22:34:01] | PiousMinion: | wagnerrp: "44811" is all I see. why throw awa ya card if not "pvr" ? |
| [22:34:12] | wagnerrp: | PiousMinion: because its a framegrabber |
| [22:34:35] | PiousMinion: | wagnerrp: which means? |
| [22:34:40] | wagnerrp: | pain |
| [22:34:50] | [R]: | s/pain/crap/ |
| [22:35:19] | AndyCap: | what's in the box? Pain! |
| [22:35:42] | PiousMinion: | "crap" may be my only option. lspci says it's a bt878 |
| [22:35:43] | wagnerrp: | SKU 44811 seems to be one used by the PVR-150 |
| [22:35:55] | [R]: | yeah... bt is crap |
| [22:36:10] | freakwent2: | I have two of those |
| [22:36:26] | PiousMinion: | Then crap is what I have to get working. I have negative income. heh |
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| [22:36:49] | wagnerrp: | see linuxtv.org about getting brooktree cards working under linux |
| [22:37:00] | [R]: | when i tried getting my bttv working |
| [22:37:04] | [R]: | i had to try every stinkin card type |
| [22:37:08] | [R]: | because it wasn't detected properly |
| [22:37:27] | wagnerrp: | see the mythtv manual about how to set up V4L framegrabbers working, and properly setting up pass-through audio capture on your sound card |
| [22:38:33] | freakwent2: | I ran a script that loaded the module with card=1 tuner=1, ran xawtv for 10 seconds, unload, load with card=1 tuner=2 ... all the way up to card=n tuner=n and left it in the background. I got the figures, sent them off the manufacturer to add t their webpage. |
| [22:38:40] | freakwent2: | but they never bothered, |
| [22:38:59] | [R]: | freakwent2: thats basically what i did |
| [22:39:22] | PiousMinion: | well, lspci says "bt878", but chip on card says "fusion 878a" if that's any better. |
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| [22:40:53] | [R]: | blarg, another game that gets to loading and never past |
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| [22:41:08] | [R]: | PiousMinion: does tvtime work? |
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| [22:41:16] | freakwent2: | I can't resize the mthtv overlay, it's too small and the black triangles in tv settings can reduce it but not enlarge it. Has anyone seen this before? |
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| [22:41:36] | [R]: | freakwent2: myth overlay? black triangles? |
| [22:42:25] | PiousMinion: | [R]: checking |
| [22:42:35] | freakwent2: | on my myth install, when I run the frontend, it takes up ~ 3/4 of the screen from the TR corener leaving Xorg in the background. |
| [22:42:37] | MTughan_: | We're trying to get a Hauppauge HVR-2250 running with MythTV 0.22 (Mythbuntu 9.10). We got the SAA7164 driver up and a DVB card detected, but MythTV isn't detecting any ATSC channels. Is there something we missed? |
| [22:43:02] | [R]: | freakwent2: sounds like you told it to run in a window |
| [22:43:03] | freakwent2: | MTughan_ the areial? |
| [22:43:12] | freakwent2: | lololol |
| [22:43:15] | wagnerrp: | freakwent2: in the menu in that dialog with the 'black triangles', there is a option to reset |
| [22:43:17] | MTughan_: | freakwent2: Works with a separate tuner connected directly to the TV fine. |
| [22:43:35] | freakwent2: | srsly try dvbscan (or scandvb) to see if you can get channels that way. |
| [22:43:59] | freakwent2: | if you get a working channels.conf you can use vlc to test reception seperate from anything mythy |
| [22:44:26] | freakwent2: | [R] there's no 'window dressing' so I don't think so, that's why I called it an overlay. |
| [22:44:42] | wagnerrp: | freakwent2: reset myth's render size |
| [22:44:53] | freakwent2: | wagnerrp how? |
| [22:44:56] | wagnerrp: | see above |
| [22:45:03] | freakwent2: | ok from the menu, ty |
| [22:45:25] | freakwent2: | now all I need is freenx running and today's problems are all fixed.... |
| [22:47:43] | thefRont: | oobe: mythtv 0.22 fully supports the hdhomerun |
| [22:48:07] | thefRont: | tuning worked with that version. now I have to try to get mythtv 0.22 running on my ubuntu 8.04 installation ;) |
| [22:48:27] | wagnerrp: | (or you need to upgrade your 8.04 installation) |
| [22:48:39] | thefRont: | err, 8.10 |
| [22:49:03] | thefRont: | well, I won't upgrade to 9.10 until it's working properly |
| [22:49:15] | thefRont: | 9.10 still has too many bugs |
| [22:49:36] | PiousMinion: | gotta love uBUGtu |
| [22:50:01] | [R]: | i dont know why so many people complain about 9.10 |
| [22:50:04] | [R]: | i've yet to have a problme with it |
| [22:50:32] | PiousMinion: | \I've never had ubuntu work properly on the multitude of PCs I've attempted. |
| [22:50:52] | [R]: | lol |
| [22:50:52] | wagnerrp: | ive never even used mythbuntu, and its caused me problems |
| [22:50:58] | PiousMinion: | hehe |
| [22:51:01] | AndyCap: | [R]: out of tree drivers and 2.6.31? |
| [22:51:12] | MTughan_: | freakwent2: Well, dvbscan/scan apparently needs an initial tuning data, which we don't have. |
| [22:51:13] | [R]: | only reason i'm using mythbuntu is it makes it stupid easy to do net booting |
| [22:51:17] | [R]: | AndyCap: huh? |
| [22:51:18] | wagnerrp: | (some bug in the python bindings that only exhibited itself in mythbuntu) |
| [22:51:35] | AndyCap: | [R]: that's what I've seen people complaing about with the new ubuntu. |
| [22:51:40] | thefRont: | I've installed it on my mac mini. 8.10 worked perfectly on it. with 9.10 I can't get it to use the resolution of my screen, and the apple wireless keyboard doesn't work as well |
| [22:51:44] | [R]: | AndyCap: huh? |
| [22:51:49] | thefRont: | although it worked in 8.10 |
| [22:52:03] | AndyCap: | [R]: I dunno though since I don't use it myself. |
| [22:52:25] | AndyCap: | [R]: but people using cards with drivers not in mainline got into trouble. |
| [22:52:48] | [R]: | how is it ubuntu's fault if drivers don't work with the latest kernel? |
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| [22:59:03] | freakwent2: | MTughan_ try dvbscan -c /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/au-Canberr-Black-Mtn or whatever file in ther corresponds to your location. |
| [22:59:21] | MTughan_: | freakwent2: Nothing for US or Canada. |
| [22:59:27] | freakwent2: | <wagnerrp> freakwent2: in the menu in that dialog with the 'black triangles', there is a option to reset <---- Not on my system |
| [22:59:41] | freakwent2: | All I get is coarse/fine adjustment, save, or quit. |
| [23:00:02] | sid3windr: | us or canada have dvb-t, MTughan_ ? |
| [23:00:06] | sid3windr: | I thought that was atsc |
| [23:00:15] | freakwent2: | This is under "picture settings wizard" to something like that. |
| [23:00:31] | freakwent2: | sorry MTughan_ if it'snot dvb-t then I have no idea :( |
| [23:00:31] | MTughan_: | sid3windr: I don't know what the heck it is. Don't know what DVB is. |
| [23:00:39] | freakwent2: | Digital video broadcast |
| [23:00:43] | wagnerrp: | freakwent2: im certain there used to be a reset |
| [23:00:44] | MTughan_: | I know it broadcasts in ATSC though. |
| [23:00:47] | wagnerrp: | but im not seeing it |
| [23:00:50] | sid3windr: | ok. :P |
| [23:01:08] | freakwent2: | hrm, maybe they moved the reset somewhere else. |
| [23:01:21] | wagnerrp: | seems 'quit without saving' resets now |
| [23:01:34] | wagnerrp: | and now i have to fix my overscan on my tv |
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| [23:01:46] | freakwent2: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Screen_size_setting_wizard |
| [23:01:51] | freakwent2: | needs updating mybe |
| [23:01:53] | freakwent2: | ok I'll try that |
| [23:03:54] | wagnerrp: | ugh... that means my themecache is trashed too |
| [23:04:45] | k_ross: | MTughan_: try /usr/share/dvb/atsc/us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB |
| [23:05:45] | k_ross: | (if you're in the US or Canada) |
| [23:06:19] | MTughan_: | k_ross: What command do I use with that? dvbscan has no -c argument. |
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| [23:07:04] | k_ross: | scan /usr/share/dvb/atsc/us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB |
| [23:07:09] | k_ross: | (don't use -c) |
| [23:07:11] | PiousMinion: | hmm [R] asked me if tvtime works. ... it does, but idk what to do with that result. |
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| [23:07:38] | MTughan_: | k_ross: Getting "tuning failed!" |
| [23:08:46] | k_ross: | it's been awhile since i've used it. i think it does that for every channel it tries, until it finds some that it can tune |
| [23:09:03] | k_ross: | actually you want to run: scan /usr/share/dvb/atsc/us-ATSC-center-frequencies-8VSB > channels.conf |
| [23:09:23] | k_ross: | so you can use the generated channels.conf file with mplayer, vlc, or whatever to try tuning and watching tv |
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| [23:10:17] | MTughan_: | k_ross: scan is giving me "tuning failed!!!" though when it tries to tune to a station. |
| [23:11:40] | k_ross: | MTughan_: yes i just tried it on my system. it goes through every possible channel. for the ones where there's nothing there, it displays "tuning failed" and moves onto the next one. |
| [23:11:54] | k_ross: | it's normal |
| [23:12:18] | MTughan_: | Hmm... It's doing it for all channels though. |
| [23:12:26] | k_ross: | yes |
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| [23:13:08] | k_ross: | if you redirected the output to channels.conf, then when you're done you'll have a channels.conf file with the channels that it found |
| [23:14:17] | k_ross: | since most channels in the US are now in the UHF frequency range, you'll get a lot of "tuning failed" before it starts finding channels |
| [23:14:27] | k_ross: | as it goes through all the lower frequencies first |
| [23:16:39] | k_ross: | MTughan_: did you put "> channels.conf" at the end of the command? |
| [23:16:53] | MTughan_: | k_ross: Second time, yes. Still printed everything out to stderr. |
| [23:17:34] | k_ross: | yeah that's how that program works. all of the tuning failed stuff goes to stderr, which doesn't get redirected to the file. the good results that it does find, go to stdout, and will get redirected to the file |
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| [23:19:42] | freakwent2: | yup |
| [23:20:02] | freakwent2: | and the quit with no save worked for me, thanks wagnerrp for taking one for the team. |
| [23:21:38] | GreyFoxx: | w |
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| [23:26:49] | parasonic77: | hello. question: does anyone successfully use the recent "match refresh rate to video" feature in PAL land? With my recordings (50p or 50i) Myth refuses to pick a 50Hz mode, always picks 60Hz for the display. It works correctly with 24p, 60Hz-based video, though. |
| [23:27:18] | freakwent2: | So does mythtv require X11? Is there any benefit to running without it? |
| [23:29:08] | MTughan_: | How can I find the directory where recordings are stored? |
| [23:30:49] | k_ross: | in mythtv-setup, the storage directories menu option |
| [23:31:27] | BobLfoot: | I am trying to add a channel that the scan appears to have missed but ATSC is not in the selecteable types on the gui. How do I add an ATSC channel? |
| [23:32:27] | MTughan_: | k_ross: Thanks. |
| [23:33:30] | freakwent2: | BobLfoot are you sure your card can do it? |
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| [23:33:34] | freakwent2: | there's some info here: |
| [23:33:36] | freakwent2: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/ATSC |
| [23:33:39] | k_ross: | BobLfoot: i think it's possible in the channel editor. but it might be easier to do a single-channel channel scan, maybe setting the timeouts higher to give it more time to get a lock |
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| [23:34:55] | BobLfoot: | k_ross: when i attempt to scan it responds channel could not be opened. |
| [23:35:33] | k_ross: | i don't know what that means. maybe someone else does |
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| [23:39:55] | k_ross: | MTughan_: how's the channel scan going? |
| [23:39:57] | BobLfoot: | exit |
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| [23:40:02] | BobLfoot: | oops |
| [23:40:30] | MTughan_: | k_ross: Cancelled. We've got more important business to do right now, so we'll try later. |
| [23:40:36] | k_ross: | no problem |
| [23:41:10] | MTughan_: | Eg, the 388GiB of existing recordings to copy over. |
| [23:47:07] | BobLfoot: | ls -l |
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