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Sunday, December 20th, 2009, 00:01 UTC

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bllz:

My channel changing script (for IR transmitter) works perfectly for all 2 digit channels but inexplicably fails when trying to tune to triple-digit channels. Can anybody help me debug this issue? I've tried changing the sleep time on line 10, but to no avail... I don't know _anything_ about scripting, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Here's the script: http://pastebin.com/m7dd3a089

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ctmjr:

bllz: am not sure but i would change line 7 to 0–100 see what happens

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bllz:

ctmjr: how come?

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jblack:

avatar. go see it in 3d.

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bllz:

i literally know *nothing* about scripting... i got this script from another user =)

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ctmjr:

jblack: good?

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jblack:

It'll be one of the top 5 sci-fi of all time

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jblack:

It's that good.

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npm:

Hi, i have a "CORE cx23885[0]: subsystem: 0070:2211, board: Hauppauge WinTV-HVR1270 [card=18,autodetected]" .. when will linux (f12) support all the features of this cards: analog; IR receiver? (/dev/dvb/adapter0 is created "out of box" as advertized on the internets but i want more).

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bllz:

I cannot control the volume and mute with my MCE USB remote. The volume slider and mute overlay both appear in the myth frontend, but there is no corresponding change in the sound. My audio output device is ALSA:default and I've tried changing the mixer controls back and forth between PCM and Master. What should I try next?

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cesman:

bllz: perhaps you should check your lircrc to ensure that it is set to control volume

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AndyCap:

bllz: and how are you connecting the sound output?

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dspDrew:

everytime I try to install mythdora I get "mythdora bad kmod package '....' does not require a kernel

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bllz:

AndyCap, cesman: i'm connecting the sound output to a stereo system through a "headphone" to composite audio line

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dspDrew:

ide tried recreating the installation cd plenty times too

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bllz:

cesman: I'm not sure why lirc would need to be set to control volume. I'm not trying to control an external device... just the volume within mythbuntu (or within myth)

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dspDrew:

damn thing

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dspDrew:

howcome I'm the only one that gets this

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mchou:

mzb: you should look into app_notify instead of snmp

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mchou:

mzb: also gastify

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darthanubis:

could someone tell me the correct syntax to edit mythfrontend.sh with export EXPERIMENTALLY_ALLOW_PULSE_AUDIO=1?

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mchou:

mzb: snmp polling is ridiculous

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dspDrew:

why would I not get any x starting up

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dspDrew:

all I get after I install is the command line login

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dspDrew:

and the install won't run x either

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dspDrew:

what am I doing wrong

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cesman:

bllz: I realize that, however if you intend to control the volume via remote, lirc _needs_ to be setup accordingly

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cesman:

it pressing the buttons don't work, that should be the first thing you look at

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defaultro:

good evening folks, how do I prevent mythvideo's rescaning from deleting the existing entries in videometadata?

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bllz:

cesman: ah okay, thanks for clarifying that (and sorry for the delay... i'm back for good now)

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bllz:

cesman: so I just have one thing I'm not clear on... when I press the sound-related buttons I do see the overlay for volume or mute show up. Does this mean lirc is configured for volume control in any way or does that have little to do with it?

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bllz:

cesman: also, could you point me to some documentation on setting up lirc to handle sound? I have an MCE USB remote if that matters...

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cesman:

bllz: if you see the overlay, then it would appear that lircrc is configured appropriately

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bllz:

cesman: okay thanks for the suggestion though... it's often the things you don't think of =)

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cesman:

bllz: as you are using mythbuntu, you may want to ask in #mythbuntu as there maybe something mythbuntu specific I'm not aware of (pulseaudio for instance)

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bllz:

cesman: I wasn't aware there was a #mythbuntu... i tried in #ubuntu-mythtv. thanks though

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cesman:

you're welcome

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bllz:

ah it appears taht #mythbuntu redirects to #ubuntu-mythtv

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mzb:

mchou, yes, you're probably right, thanks

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ablyss:

what up yall... happy holidays

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sphery:

WARNING: My 0.18 MythTV install is broken. 0.19, 0.20, 0.21, 0.22, and/or trunk might be, too!!!

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sphery:

for anyone who wondered whether to read, "[mythtv-users] WARNING: SchedulesDirect users: server currentlyreturning bogus results", I think the above summary is a lot easier to handle.

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skd5aner:

when running jamu.py -MW, some of my recordings are interpreted as movies and instead of grabbing info from ttvdb it goes out to tmdb (and pulls back nothing – obviously), how can I correct this?

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RDV_Linux:

skd5aner: Jamu is at the mercy of your EPG information. For those programs there must be no subtitles (epsiode names). The -MW option is a best guess situation.

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defaultro:

is visualization something that needs to be added to mythmusic?

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defaultro:

something that needs to be downloaded?

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skd5aner:

RDV_Linux: yup, I get that – is ther anyway I can manually intervene so that jamu can them reach out to the correct source?

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RDV_Linux:

No

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skd5aner:

gotcha, ok – wasn't sure if there was something in the bottom of the conf file where I could put some pointer or anything

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RDV_Linux:

If the wrong tv show was being found then you could use the jamu.conf file override section but that will not work due to the subtitle being empty/

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skd5aner:

in general – a recording would need to have a subtitle for jamu to know that it's a tv show, correct?

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RDV_Linux:

correct

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skd5aner:

OK – thanks again RDV_Linux – one last quick question, does jamu look at ALL recordings listed for an TV series, or just the first one it encounters?

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skd5aner:

so – if I had 5 episodes, and the first one in the list didn't have a subtitle, but the rest did...

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RDV_Linux:

I only gets a TV series graphics so it only looks once per unique movie or TV show.

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skd5aner:

OK – fair enough. Does myth automatically look for the graphic by looking for a graphic with the same name, or is it meta-data that associated with the recording in the DB?

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RDV_Linux:

I assume you are thinking of inserting a subtitle in the db. It may work but please be careful and do a backup

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RDV_Linux:

It looks for a graphics with the same name as the title.

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skd5aner:

wondering if I could manually go out, and put the graphic with the correct naming scheme in the correct directory – would myth pick it up, or does it involve a record in the DB

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skd5aner:

ok – perfect, I can manually get the the couple it misses then

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RDV_Linux:

No that would work

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skd5aner:

yea – this is way easier to solve than going in and mucking with the recording's metadata

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skd5aner:

again – thanks for the nice work, look forwarding to seeing your contributions to mnv in the future

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RDV_Linux:

If you can stay away from changing the db manually.

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RDV_Linux:

skd5aner: It is still early days but I have no doubt people will like what iamlindoro and I are making.

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skd5aner:

for sure – lots of potential

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RDV_Linux:

and a lot of TOS to read and make sure we com;y with;)

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skd5aner:

and I'm glad your doing it in such a way that it's as integrated as possible – I was afraid that the direction that would eventually show itself would be to just use mythbrowser – but the tight integration is nice

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skd5aner:

I was starting to play around with mythweather, hoping that could be salvaged a bit – what a mess that has turned out to be

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skd5aner:

can't search by zip, city name, etc very easily – its just a guessing game to guess how to interact with the various scripts

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skd5aner:

I did mention to iamlindoro that I'm sure if mnv is ready for primetime for .23, that it'll be the defining plugin and feature of that release for sure

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skd5aner:

anyway – thx for the help/clarification on the -MW stuff, g'night

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RDV_Linux:

skd5aner: If you manually download graphics for your TV shows do not run the jamu -J janitor option as it will remove those graphics when that a tv series is not scheduled.

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dspDrew:

i installed mythdora and did not run through the setup of mythtv and I rebooted

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dspDrew:

now I am not able to login

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dspDrew:

can somebody tell me what the login is

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dspDrew:

i can't login as root and those are the only credentials I know

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dspDrew:

damn it

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dspDrew:

what am I supposed to do with this thing

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mchou:

stupid comcast commercials

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mchou:

who do they think they're fooling

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dspDrew:

how do you login to mythtv

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mchou:

"comcast PQ better than Uverse"

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mchou:

baloney

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dspDrew:

how do you use mythtv without login into it

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dspDrew:

I'm losing my patience with this

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mchou:

haha

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dspDrew:

this is fucking gay

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bsdfox:

I'm having problems upgrading my db to 0.22 I'm using a command like: mythconverg_restore.pl --directory /home/mythtv --filename mythconverg-1214–20080626150513.sql.gz

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jblack:

dspdrew: passwd mythtv ?

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bsdfox:

but it just keeps saying "ERROR: The database does not exist."

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bsdfox:

I even dropped the database and created a new one but that didn't help

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mchou:

bsdfox: back it up the old fashioned way

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mchou:

no need to use stupid perl wrapper

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mchou:

bsdfox: man mysqldump

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dspDrew:

how do I get to the cli

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dspDrew:

why can't I ssh to this thing

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iamlindoro:

dspDrew, That kind of language is unacceptable in this channel, you've been warned before, last warning

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Ponty:

Does anyone know how via Apache I can start mplayer or some other media player, so that it will display on 0:0?

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Ponty:

If I just start the app, I get audio, but no video via SSH.

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GreyFoxx:

export DISPLAY=:0

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GreyFoxx:

then run mplayer

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GreyFoxx:

assuming the user has rights to :0

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Ponty:

BAH! I was missing the export. {grumble}

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** GreyFoxx heads to bed **

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Ponty:

Well, I'll make sure the user does.

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Ponty:

Thanks.

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sphery:

mchou: yeah, no need to use the stupid perl wrapper--after all, users know exactly how to do everything right the first time

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sphery:

this is exactly why there are absolutely no issues with DB upgrades due to misconfiguration of the DB/broken restores/etc.

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mchou:

sphery: no issues??

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sphery:

because the stupid perl wrapper is new, so we never had that making trouble

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mchou:

what are you smoking?

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sphery:

hey, just saying that all people need to use is the tools that mysql gives them

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mchou:

you were HERE when plenty of folks had issues with that wrapper

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sphery:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying

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sphery:

the wrapper just gives them errors when they do the wrong thing

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bsdfox:

mchou: that worked

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sphery:

the mysql tools let them do it wrong

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sphery:

so just use the mysql tools and do it wrong

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mchou:

sphery: right

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sphery:

bsdfox: all you needed to do was follow the instructions: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_an . . . ial_database

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mchou:

do it "wrong"

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bsdfox:

my laptop is working properly with 0.22 but my desktop starts to load the frontend then quits out with "

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bsdfox:

2009-12–19 21:06:28.678 Registering Internal as a media playback plugin.

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bsdfox:

Floating point exception

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bsdfox:

sphery: ... that's what I was reading and following

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mchou:

lol

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sphery:

bsdfox: and you need to have the perl bindings configured

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sphery:

bsdfox: or you need to set up the db info in a backuprc

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bsdfox:

did have that setup

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bsdfox:

you can override with --directory anyway

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sphery:

bsdfox: I'd love to see a mythconverg_restore.pl --directory /home/mythtv --filename mythconverg-1214–20080626150513.sql.gz --verbose

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sphery:

mchou: the point of my rant was that checking that things are done right shouldn't be considered stupid

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mchou:

bsdfox: sphery is partial to perl wrappers. Mysl command line tools simply wont do!

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mchou:

mysql*

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sphery:

ask any user who's been through the DB character encoding fix

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mchou:

sphery: I told you already, it fails. mythmusic being one example

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mchou:

regarding the encoding

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sphery:

mchou: what fails? what's mythmusic have to do with anything?

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mchou:

omg

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sphery:

the script doesn't break anything

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mchou:

mythmusic is not part of the mythdb?

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sphery:

the script just restores a backup

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sphery:

the script doesn't touch the data

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mchou:

sphery: haha, right

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sphery:

mythmusic upgrades the mythmusic database

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mchou:

I keep on telling you that it didnt restore the data with proper encodings and you're arguing with me

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sphery:

if your mythmusic database data is corrupt before the restore, it's corrupt after the restore. if it's corrupt when it upgrades, the upgrade will leave it corrupt

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sphery:

mchou: it restores the data in the backup

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mchou:

not to mention bsdfox managed to make it work WITHOUT perl

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sphery:

what part can't you understand?

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mchou:

sphery: the music data was not corrupt

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mchou:

sphery: stop defelecting

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mchou:

deflecting*

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sphery:

the script restores the backup with mysql (and backs up the DB with mysqldump)

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mchou:

omg

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sphery:

it is *only* a script that does some checks and automates the calling of those tools

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sphery:

it does the same thing

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mchou:

sphery: please, if you dont even acknowledge the facts, stop arguing

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sphery:

well, I have to admit that you surely know better than I how the 2000+ lines of the script work

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sphery:

after all, I've only heard about the scripts

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mchou:

right, because mysql tools dont need 2000 line wrappers

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mchou:

that's why I KNOW mysql tools work better

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sphery:

what you don't know is what those 2000 lines are

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mchou:

sude I do, I read through the perl code

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sphery:

so what in there is unnecessary?

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mchou:

there is no need for a 2000 line wrapper for simple stuff that mysql tools can handle well enough alone

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mchou:

and works in bsdfox's example

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sphery:

there's code to a) read the config from config.xml and mysql.txt (choosing the one that would be chosen by myth apps in the same environment), for checking DB prereqs, for compressing and handling compressed backups, for rotating backups

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sphery:

mchou: you know what... that's ingenious. When people come in here and say, "Myth doesn't work," we can say, "Why are you using Myth? The ivtv tools work. Just use cat /dev/video0 > /path/to/my/tv.mpg"

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bsdfox:

I hate to interrupt your bickering, but either of you guys have any idea why I'm getting "floating point exception" while trying to load the frontend on my machine? I found a few others with the problem online but all were using ati and had some strange resolution issue which I don't

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sphery:

after all, why use a 100,000 line C++ wrapper script for tools that ivtv provides

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mchou:

bsdfox: start myth in the console and look at the messages

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sphery:

bsdfox: I'd bet you have a 0.21-fixes plugin in your plugin dir

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sphery:

but I was really hoping I'd see the output of the --verbose since it almost definitely tells you what's not properly configured in your environment

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mchou:

sphery: if you're equating those perl db wrapper scripts to myth, you're off your rocker

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sphery:

mchou: I'm just saying that if you don't properly configure a program, it won't work

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sphery:

so saying that "mysql tools work and the backup/restore scripts don't" is just plain irrelevant

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mchou:

sphery: you dont need to configure anything to use the mysql tools

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sphery:

I can make the mysql tools not work, too.

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mchou:

sphery: go right aghead then

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sphery:

right, you don't

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mchou:

ahead*

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sphery:

if they're not properly configured, they won't work

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mchou:

omg

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sphery:

besides, /all/ you have to configure to use the backup/restore scripts is the same thing you have to configure to use Myth--config.xml or mysql.txt

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mchou:

why do folks need to perform needless situps?

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sphery:

and when you run in the wrong environment--one without that configured--the backup/restore scripts don't work

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sphery:

needless?

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sphery:

they /need/ it for myth to work

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sphery:

which is why I used it

[05:24:22]

mchou:

there's been plenty of instances here where those perl db scripts failed when folks still had myth working

[05:24:35]

mchou:

so why the needless situps?

[05:25:35]

sphery:

mchou: btw, weren't you the guy who was ranting about how great automysqlbackup was not long ago? You do realize that's a 700-line perl wrapper for the MySQL tools, right?

[05:25:48]

mchou:

nome, that wasnt me

[05:25:52]

mchou:

nope*

[05:26:28]

sphery:

mysqlhotcopy? the 1100-line perl wrapper for mysql tools provided by--believe it or not--mysql?

[05:26:37]

mchou:

that was not me

[05:26:48]

sphery:

of course, "there is no need for a 2000 line wrapper for simple stuff that mysql tools can handle well enough alone"

[05:27:00]

sphery:

so you should tell mysql to delete theirs

[05:27:29]

sphery:

(mysqlhotcopy is a backup script. The backup and restore scripts for myth are each about 1000 lines, so about the same as their backup script)

[05:27:43]

mchou:

and even if it were, I'd trust mysql devs before I trust some ramdom coder of unknown quality

[05:28:03]

clever:

i think the myth scripts just run mysqldump

[05:28:05]

sphery:

yes, mythtv project is just random coders

[05:28:10]

sphery:

mysql devs are real coders

[05:28:20]

mchou:

mysql devs more likely to check corner cases

[05:28:23]

sphery:

after all, that's why sun bought the project and why oracle is now trying to buy it

[05:28:37]

sphery:

corner case of what?

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clever:

sphery: stuff like my system :P

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Casper82:

mchou: I would assume the wrappers were made so that the devs can rule out user error in the backup/restore procedure. I would rather tell someone how to use them than go against the grain and make the jobs of the devs harder. This is, afterall free tech support.

[05:29:37]

mchou:

Casper82: it aint "free" when people like me have to tell folks to use native tools that work

[05:29:43]

sphery:

they write a wrapper around mysqldump that dumps all the databases in the server. Myth has a wrapper around mysqldump that dumps only the mythconverg database/wrapper that calls mysql and passes it the SQL backup of the mythconverg db.

[05:30:08]

mchou:

Casper82: and perl wrappers that dont work (for whatever reason)

[05:30:25]

Casper82:

mchou: Well, if you can't explain how to use their tools, then why not leave it to someone who can ;)

[05:30:32]

sphery:

/that work/that work because they were configured, unlike the mythtv backup and restore scripts/

[05:30:54]

mchou:

Casper82: cause it's unnecessarily obfuscated

[05:30:59]

sphery:

if you don't configure your environment for running mythtv tools, mythtv tools won't work

[05:31:13]

sphery:

mchou: what part is obfuscated?

[05:31:18]

sphery:

I /really/ seriously want to fix it

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Casper82:

according to what, one person?

[05:31:22]

sphery:

you won't tell me what to fix

[05:31:46]

mchou:

sphery: why should I bother to tell you what to fix?

[05:32:07]

sphery:

because, as a user of MythTV, you wish to give something back to the project that you're enjoying using?

[05:32:18]

mchou:

it's clear we have philosophical differences regarding the approach

[05:32:24]

sphery:

because I'm too stupid to figure out what's broken in the scripts?

[05:32:36]

mchou:

I already gave to mythtv via my code contribs

[05:32:47]

sphery:

because I'm a random coder of unknown quality and you want to help me to see the errors of my ways?

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mchou:

nope. I don't have time to correct everybody

[05:33:17]

sphery:

mchou: ah, yeah, now I see it here, "Paid in full. Free lifetime subscription--do not guilt him into contributing more."

[05:33:22]

sphery:

sorry, missed that on the roster

[05:33:25]

mchou:

not into nation-building if you get my drift

[05:34:03]

sphery:

Well, at least I now understand your point of view. Complaining about things is more fun than helping to make them better.

[05:34:12]

mchou:

omg

[05:34:19]

Casper82:

Funny, you don't have time to correct everybody, but you do have time to tell people how to get around using supplied tools...

[05:34:32]

mchou:

I've already said I dont agree with your approach

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dspDrew:

what is the mythtv card type for a pvr 2250

[05:35:04]

mchou:

and you want me to help you improve it? Why should anyone have to do that?

[05:35:31]

Casper82:

dspDrew: dvb

[05:35:39]

mchou:

Casper82: I tell them that cause they've prove to work RELIABLY

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mchou:

proven*

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MythbuntuGuest58:

hello there

[05:36:03]

MythbuntuGuest58:

i got a stupid question

[05:36:15]

sphery:

yes, calling mysqldump works reliably... if only mythconverg_backup.pl had decided to call mysqldump... Oh, wait! It does.

[05:36:40]

MythbuntuGuest58:

i got a hvr 850 and i cant get the analog to work

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wagnerrp:

MythbuntuGuest58: cant answer it until you ask it

[05:37:01]

wagnerrp:

even if analog does work on that device, you wouldnt want to use it

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wagnerrp:

its a framegrabber

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MythbuntuGuest58:

well yes i know but thats all i got

[05:38:00]

MythbuntuGuest58:

si any way to get that thing to work with me??

[05:38:36]

bllz:

damn... did I walk in on a kingsize flamewar?

[05:38:46]

** bllz sits back and watches **

[05:38:50]

MythbuntuGuest58:

hm?

[05:39:22]

bllz:

MythbuntuGuest58: not you, don't worry =) Im just being cheeky

[05:39:31]

wagnerrp:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-850

[05:39:52]

wagnerrp:

analog support was put in the v4l tree in late march

[05:40:04]

wagnerrp:

so it will likely only be in the newest kernels, if it is yet at all

[05:40:15]

wagnerrp:

that means 2.6.31 or newer, probably

[05:40:21]

MythbuntuGuest58:

well i m running 9.10 both digital and analog giving me crap

[05:40:27]

sphery:

bsdfox: if you'd be interested in helping improve the backup/restore scripts (and the process you went through), could you do me a favor and see if your system has DBI and DBD-mysql isntalled, please?

[05:40:35]

sphery:

if not, I know what's happening

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sphery:

if so, I'd have to look farther

[05:40:44]

bllz:

MythbuntuGuest58: this channel isn't mythbuntu-specific ;-)

[05:40:52]

bllz:

you're running mythtv .22, presumably

[05:41:18]

bllz:

MythbuntuGuest58: but if what wagnerrp says is correct, try enabling the proposed updates in myhtbuntu and see if you get a kernel taht supports the feature in question

[05:41:35]

MythbuntuGuest58:

kk ima try that

[05:41:38]

MythbuntuGuest58:

thnx a bunch

[05:41:48]

bllz:

MythbuntuGuest58: back it up first

[05:41:52]

bllz:

i've had issues with proposed updates

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iamlindoro:

eassssssyy tex

[05:42:02]

iamlindoro:

hold up with kernel updates

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bllz:

nothing horrible (usually a kernel that won't boot and I just picked an odler one from grub)

[05:42:09]

iamlindoro:

he's already *on* 2.6.31

[05:42:19]

bllz:

MythbuntuGuest58: but if you're lucky, it'll help

[05:42:25]

bllz:

aah okay, i missed that

[05:42:27]

bllz:

sorry

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iamlindoro:

Would be wise to get a bit more specific about the *problem* before advising solutions

[05:42:35]

bllz:

i'm going to receed into the shadows now...

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iamlindoro:

specifically, I'll bet $10 he's trying to scan analog

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bllz:

iamlindoro: I prefaced it with, assuming wagnerrp is correct...

[05:43:19]

iamlindoro:

still shouldn't offer prescriptions without diagnosing the malady

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MythbuntuGuest58:

well i tried the v4l settings but i can t scan for channels ....in the ivtv i have the option to scan but it randomly stopps

[05:43:42]

iamlindoro:

then yes, your issue is you can't scan analog channels in .22

[05:43:46]

wagnerrp:

you cannot scan for channels

[05:43:48]

iamlindoro:

and you shouldn't be anyway, since you're in the US

[05:43:50]

wagnerrp:

and you dont have an ivtv card

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bllz:

iamlindoro: i was offering a possible venue to explore. suggestions like that have helped me in the past...

[05:43:56]

bllz:

but anyway i' m going to bed

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iamlindoro:

well it was stupid advice, I don't mind saying

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MythbuntuGuest58:

well i m trying to get the 70 channels on teh comcast cable network with it

[05:44:47]

sphery:

bsdfox: Anyway, the restore script currently requires DBI and DBD::mysql. I /could/ make it work without them for a full restore, but doing so would mean that we can't do any of the database checks to make sure you did the right thing (so any error messages would be bad).

[05:45:00]

iamlindoro:

MythbuntuGuest58, which you should be fetching from the listings source, not scanning

[05:45:17]

iamlindoro:

set up your Schedules Direct account properly, fetch channels from listings source, done

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iamlindoro:

Which is covered in the docs, which you probably ought to check out

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MythbuntuGuest58:

i tried that it downloads everything then when i go bacvk in the frontend i click watch tv then it just goes back to the menu

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iamlindoro:

that's when you should start reading backend logs

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MythbuntuGuest58:

the whatnow?

[05:46:42]

iamlindoro:

because your problem isn't having channels at that point

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dspDrew:

when I select dvb I have no options for device number

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iamlindoro:

MythbuntuGuest58, backend logs, which for you would be at /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log

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MythbuntuGuest58:

oh ok gimme 1 sec ima check that out

[05:47:26]

iamlindoro:

generally in the case of new users filled with plain english explanations of what you haven't configured

[05:47:50]

Casper82:

dspDrew: I don't think the 2250 is in the kernel yet. I had to compile v4l-dvb manually

[05:48:05]

dspDrew:

oh great

[05:48:46]

Casper82:

dspDrew: see http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-2250 under setup instructions

[05:48:55]

wagnerrp:

i thought that made it into 6.32

[05:49:23]

iamlindoro:

does anyone actually ship 2.6.32 yet?

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wagnerrp:

dont know

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iamlindoro:

not TTBOMK

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** sphery makes a mental note to better check the corner cases when writing stupid wrapper scripts--like the corner case of the distro not installing the prerequisites **

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dspDrew:

I'm not really that experienced with linux so I'm not sure how easy it will be for me to be compiling my own kernel

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iamlindoro:

you don't need to compile your own kernel, just your v4l-dvb modules

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iamlindoro:

http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7344302

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iamlindoro:

ubuntu instructions, modify as necessary for other distros

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dspDrew:

i don't see these setup instructions

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iamlindoro:

The link provides step by step instructions...

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Casper82:

dspDrew: Under Linux Drivers, second sentence. It's a link to http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2200

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Casper82:

Which is the same instructions that iamlindoro pointed to, just in a different place

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MythbuntuGuest58:

hmm ok i looked into the log it s throwing some errors about invalid codec and audio codec

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iamlindoro:

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Ha . . . nTV-HVR-2200 for mythdora info

[05:54:10]

MythbuntuGuest58:

is there a pastebin i can use to post it??

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iamlindoro:

MythbuntuGuest58, any pastebin you like

[05:54:23]

iamlindoro:

mythtv.pastebin.ca

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MythbuntuGuest58:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721058

[05:55:57]

iamlindoro:

The thing you cut off is the instructions to fix it

[05:55:59]

iamlindoro:

"Unknown video codec. Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and set$"

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MythbuntuGuest58:

i didn t cut that off thats what it says in teh log

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iamlindoro:

not, it's not ;)

[05:56:50]

iamlindoro:

it's what it does when a terminal truncates a line

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npm:

i'm running 2.6.31.6–166.fc12 and my hvr 1250 only supports digital, not analog, if that helps any

[05:57:06]

MythbuntuGuest58:

oh

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iamlindoro:

ie you have it open in something like nano

[05:57:09]

MythbuntuGuest58:

crap

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npm:

and i have the same question.... when will analog be supported

[05:57:28]

iamlindoro:

npm, It might help if he were using your hardware, which he isn't ;)

[05:57:50]

iamlindoro:

presumably you mean analog channel scanning, and the answer to that is, when someone with interest and time writes analog scanning for the new scanner

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MythbuntuGuest58:

umm excuse my stupidity but how else would i look at that log so it s not truncated

[05:58:27]

iamlindoro:

cat mythbackend.log

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iamlindoro:

tail -500 mythbackend.log

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iamlindoro:

etc

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npm:

how difft is the 2250 from the 1250 other than having 2x

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iamlindoro:

completely and totally different hardware

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iamlindoro:

and MythbuntuGuest58 isn't on a 2250 either

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MythbuntuGuest58:

facepalm

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npm:

2200

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iamlindoro:

nor is he on a 2200

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npm:

sorry i'm just catching up with same unanswered q for my card

[06:00:28]

iamlindoro:

your card doesn't have analog driver support, MythbuntuGuest58's does

[06:00:36]

iamlindoro:

so it's two entirely different questions

[06:00:47]

iamlindoro:

you need to wait until someone writes analog support for your card, which has nothing to do with Myth

[06:00:57]

iamlindoro:

he needs to configure his card properly, which does

[06:02:13]

npm:

scrolls way back to find hvr-850...

[06:02:40]

npm:

is this #20videocardquestions :-)

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Casper82:

npm: last I checked there is no analog support for the 1250 or 2250 in the driver.

[06:04:03]

npm:

yeah that's what i've seen as well, but was wondering if, and when

[06:04:32]

npm:

from those in the know , ie people here

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iamlindoro:

no work on it, little interest

[06:04:40]

iamlindoro:

last I heard, anyway

[06:04:46]

iamlindoro:

in the case of both cards

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wagnerrp:

there is probably interest in the 2250

[06:05:16]

iamlindoro:

not on the part of the driver dev in question

[06:05:18]

wagnerrp:

but i dont expect the 850/950 or 1250 to ever get analog support

[06:05:23]

iamlindoro:

or any others I've heard of

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npm:

so is there a pcix or pci card that supports just analog,

[06:05:35]

wagnerrp:

i mean in general, interest

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iamlindoro:

lots of PCI cards

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, Guess I meant interest on the part of people whose interest actually means anything ;)

[06:06:02]

wagnerrp:

fair enough

[06:06:35]

npm:

the 1250 is nice and cheap, low-profile seems to work... what's wrong? :-)

[06:06:43]

wagnerrp:

its a framegrabber

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wagnerrp:

at least the 2250 has an mpeg encoder

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npm:

as in it doesn't have analog compress

[06:07:03]

wagnerrp:

correct

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npm:

i got a phenomII 965 for that

[06:07:21]

npm:

:-)

[06:07:29]

wagnerrp:

and as such, you deal with all the hassles of capturing both audio and video manually and independently, encoding, syncing them

[06:07:37]

wagnerrp:

making sure theres no I/O issues

[06:07:43]

wagnerrp:

setting up your sound cards

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npm:

why would i/o to the soundcard have anything to do w/ capturing video to a file on disk?

[06:08:12]

wagnerrp:

theres all sorts of garbage you have to go through to get a framegrabber working properly within myth

[06:08:29]

wagnerrp:

and its all completely bypassed by buying a $20 -150 off ebay

[06:08:45]

wagnerrp:

because you have to capture video AND audio

[06:08:51]

wagnerrp:

often times from two separate devices

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wagnerrp:

although since the 1250 has no audio output, i assume it has built in audio capture

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npm:

seems to

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wagnerrp:

but now that means you have a second sound card you have to set up through OSS

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MythbuntuGuest58:

well http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721066

[06:10:00]

npm:

it doesn't use that soundcard for recording digtital vid

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npm:

i think it's for the analog svhs input and audio jack (which probably don't work in linux since the analogs not supported)

[06:10:56]

npm:

i have /dev/dvb/adapter0/ and that's it from that card

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wagnerrp:

svhs input?

[06:11:11]

npm:

s-video

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wagnerrp:

since when does the 1250 come with a magnetic tape reader?

[06:11:20]

npm:

not s-vhs

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dspDrew:

when I try to copy the firmwares to the firmware directory I'm gtting an error saying that that location is not a directory

[06:11:51]

npm:

i believe they both share "s"'s

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wagnerrp:

the situation is probably improved with pcie, but at least with pci, a framegrabber would take up a significant percentage of the bus

[06:13:02]

wagnerrp:

such that even under optimal conditions, you couldnt get more than three cards in a box

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MythbuntuGuest58:

iamlindoro http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721066

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npm:

true. i figured i could add a second card if there was something interestin to redord in clearQAM

[06:13:56]

npm:

s/redord/record

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ctmjr:

dspDrew: what is the command you are running

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wagnerrp:

see, youre mixing encoded outputs with framegrabbers again

[06:14:21]

dspDrew:

i got it

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dspDrew:

although hg clone http://kernellabs.com/hg/saa7164-stable/ doesnt owrk

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wagnerrp:

a digital tuner is vastly easier on a system than a framegrabber

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dspDrew:

says it can't find that command

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Casper82:

need to install mercurial

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Casper82:

^^ dspDrew

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dspDrew:

ok let me research this now

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npm:

i used to read/write video frames on a drum-disk serving 64 video terminals... so this is all just peachy for me :-)

[06:16:27]

** npm TV looks crappy on a green CRT **

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: do you remember off hand who uses phaze.org?

[06:17:23]

wagnerrp:

i know someone around here owns it

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sphery:

wagnerrp: grey foxx

[06:17:51]

wagnerrp:

ah

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MythbuntuGuest58:

well now i m getting differnt errors

[06:19:19]

wagnerrp:

so would that make this (http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/cmdline-mythremote.tgz) an 'official' tool?

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zombu3:

anybody know wth this error is?? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721066

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npm:

dspDrew's link well that answers one of my questions: "cx23885: Add IR input keypress handling and enable for the HVR-1850... The grey Hauppauge RC-5 remote and HVR-1850 IR receiver work now." ( http://kernellabs.com/hg/saa7164-stable/log?rev=HVR-1850 )

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** npm leaves remote on shelf, waits for the change to get folded into fedora 12 **

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iamlindoro:

npm, Do you own an HVR-1850?

[06:32:54]

npm:

yes

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npm:

it's plugged in and working

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dspDrew:

k when I run make menuconfig from saa7164-stable I get error2

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dspDrew:

i have installed kernel-devel

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Casper82:

You can skip the make menuconfig.

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dspDrew:

make gives me errors too

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npm:

it's progress compared to this http://infolab.stanford.edu/pub/voy/museum/pi . . . isc-text.jpg :-)

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Casper82:

what errors do you get from make?

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dspDrew:

let me see if I can get them

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zombu3:

can somebody look at my pastebin and give me a hint on whats wrong http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721066

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dspDrew:

Casper82: http://pastebin.ca/1721077

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Casper82:

what's your kernel version?

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dspDrew:

tell me how to get it and I will tell you

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Casper82:

uname -r

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dspDrew:

2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64

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zombu3:

well i dunno wth is wrong this cards are driving me nuts

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wagnerrp:

well thats interesting... http://mythtv.org/wiki/Logitech_Harmony_Wireless_Externder

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dspDrew:

Casper82: 2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64

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wagnerrp:

although certainly not worth the $100 difference between the 880 and 890

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dspDrew:

any other ideas to get this thing to recognize my 2250

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Casper82:

I'm looking at why the make failed. One sec

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dspDrew:

why does it seem like stuff only works about 10 percent of the time in linux

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wagnerrp:

stuff works very often in linux

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iamlindoro:

how frequently things work is a direct function of who is doing them

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wagnerrp:

although it may be the case that only 10% of hardware has official driver support in linux

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npm:

old stuff works better than new stuff.

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dspDrew:

iamlindoro: are you saying I didn't follow the instructions exactly as they told me

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wagnerrp:

generally because some kernel hacker has had time to put together a driver for said older device

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iamlindoro:

I'm saying just like on any operating system, your knowledge and skill level has everything to do with your success

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npm:

thus my 1850 works. it was part of the reason why i got it the other being i didn't know if i needed 2 channels to record the crap that they have on qam

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zombu3:

iamlindoro can yuou have another look at my pastebin

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Casper82:

dspDrew: Try installing ncurses and ncurses-devel

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iamlindoro:

zombu3, Sory, only popping in and out, other things going on

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zombu3:

damn well maybe when you get soem time in a min

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npm:

and because said older device has been through the requisite number of debug cycles

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dspDrew:

Casper82: didn't do it

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Casper82:

do a "make clean" then try "make" again

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wagnerrp:

from the feature wishlist... 'suggestion that would require some v4l support... autodetect/ enumerate all cards (and then of course allow deletion of individual sources via mythtv-setup)'

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dspDrew:

nope

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wagnerrp:

doesnt myth already do this?

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wagnerrp:

i mean at least for mpeg encoders, it will let you select among /dev/video<n> devices

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wagnerrp:

and certainly you can delete sources with 'd'

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zombu3:

wagnerrp can you have a look at my log???

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wagnerrp:

i can look at it, i cant claim to be of any help before hand

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zombu3:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721066

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zombu3:

there ya go

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zombu3:

this cards are driving me insane

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wagnerrp:

yeah... i got nothing

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zombu3:

heh

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npm:

2009-12–20 01:08:03.962 SampleRate: Attempted to add a rate 44100 Hz, which is not in the list of allowed rates.

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zombu3:

well i tried 32 and 48 none work

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zombu3:

#

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zombu3:

Channel(/dev/video0) Error: InitPictureAttribute( colour): failed to query controls.

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zombu3:

that is my main concern

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dspDrew:

do I need to reinstall

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Casper82:

dspDrew: I am wondering if you don't have the kernel-headers installed

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dspDrew:

i ran it again

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dspDrew:

said it's all up to date

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Casper82:

so you have kernel-headers and kernel-devel installed?

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dspDrew:

i installed kernel-devel

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dspDrew:

didn't know about kernel-headers

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dspDrew:

i thought that's kernel-devel is what you were referring to

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dspDrew:

installed kernel-headers

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dspDrew:

same error

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Casper82:

hrmm

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ctmjr:

dspDrew: did you install build-essential

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dspDrew:

no

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dspDrew:

i didn't see any of this stuff in those instructions

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dspDrew:

ok so I'm being told that fedora 10 doesnt work

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dspDrew:

so i guess that's the problem

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Casper82:

It should work

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Casper82:

try a "make distclean" then "make" again

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Casper82:

if you still get the same error File not found: /lib/modules/2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64/build/.config then I am at a loss

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dspDrew:

they are all taking crap to me in #fedora about mythdora 10

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dspDrew:

like I'm supposed to get support in #mythdora from all 2 people

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dspDrew:

they say that fedora 12 has that driver

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ctmjr:

dspDrew: your cross posting?

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dspDrew:

cross posting?

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ctmjr:

asking for help with the same problem in more than one channel and mixing it all up

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dspDrew:

of course I'm asking in another channel

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dspDrew:

is my system working yet

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ctmjr:

why? Casper82 was doing everything but coming to your house and fixing it himself you should have given him your undivided attention

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dspDrew:

he had it

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dspDrew:

were not dating

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dspDrew:

calm down

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Casper82:

dspDrew: Did you try doing a make distclean then make again?

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dspDrew:

I'm heading in there to do it

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dspDrew:

hold on.. it's not in front of me

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Casper82:

the reason cross posting sucks is because we don't know what someone else is telling you to do and if it would interfere.

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Casper82:

brb in 5

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dspDrew:

not working

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dspDrew:

well they arent telling me to do anything except stop using fedora 10

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Casper82:

same error?

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dspDrew:

yes

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mzb:

dspDrew, change distro :)

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Casper82:

lol

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dspDrew:

i don't like ubuntu

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cesman:

dspDrew: do you have a config file in /boot? if so, why not copy it to the location it is bitching about...

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dspDrew:

I'm bad enough using redhat distros

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dspDrew:

ide be even more clueless on debian type distros

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dspDrew:

i can try that if that's where that file is

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dspDrew:

what file is it

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cesman:

some distros put the config in /boot, so if it is there, you might be able to get away w/ copying it to the needed path

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dspDrew:

there's no file in there called .config

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cesman:

config anything?

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dspDrew:

oh yeah config something

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cesman:

good luck!

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** cesman hasn't used redhat or mandrake in years.... **

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dspDrew:

do I copy it there and call it .config

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cesman:

yes

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** cesman heads off to bed **

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dspDrew:

ok this "build" directory doesnt seen to exist

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dspDrew:

i see what looks like a directory

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Casper82:

and you are sure kernel-devel was installed?

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dspDrew:

it's red in my ssh client

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dspDrew:

I don't think it's a file

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dspDrew:

but says it's not a directory

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dspDrew:

yes I ran it 3 times

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Casper82:

do ls -l

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Casper82:

might be a symlink

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dspDrew:

what am I looking for in all of this

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Casper82:

to /usr/src/linux-headers....

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dspDrew:

oh

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dspDrew:

i see it

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dspDrew:

it is I think

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dspDrew:

./usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64

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Casper82:

put the .config file in there

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dave-0:

I got a little issue that is not turning up anything by Googling. :-/ I imported all of my music to mythtv, but now its not showing in 'All My Music'. When I search to import music, it finds all of it; but when I import the files, mythtv says that it cannot copy the file.

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dave-0:

Initially, it was playing fine, and I have not moved it or anythign

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dave-0:

did I just idle out?

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dspDrew:

i don't thik it likes that symlink

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dspDrew:

should I just copy that stuff to that location

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dspDrew:

and get rid of that symlink

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Casper82:

I wouldnt

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dspDrew:

http://pastebin.ca/1721114

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dspDrew:

well there's waht I get when I run make menuconfig

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dspDrew:

that one says "not a directory"

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dspDrew:

is the symlink a problem

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dspDrew:

or not working

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Casper82:

forget make menuconfig. Just try make

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dspDrew:

that still doesnt work

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Casper82:

give me a pastebin of that

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dave-0:

is there a way to delete my music database or something? so that I can re-import it?

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dspDrew:

http://pastebin.ca/1721116

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dspDrew:

that build symlnk points to a file called 2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64

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dspDrew:

in directory /usr/src/kernels

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Casper82:

it still can't find the .config

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dspDrew:

that certainly wouldn't be the path it's looking for

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Casper82:

cd to /lib/modules/2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64/build/

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Casper82:

then copy the config file there

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dspDrew:

that's a symlink to the config file I think

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Casper82:

it's a symlink to another directory

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Casper82:

which is fine

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dspDrew:

where it points does not seem to be a directory

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Casper82:

but you still don't have a .config file in there

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Casper82:

cd /lib/modules/2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64/build/

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Casper82:

you should be able to do that

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dspDrew:

-bash: cd: build: Not a directory

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dspDrew:

build -> ../../../usr/src/kernels/2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64

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dspDrew:

i think it is the config file

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Casper82:

give me a min.

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Casper82:

ok, if you cd to /usr/src/kernels/ is there a directory called 2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64?

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dspDrew:

there is now

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dspDrew:

i just created one

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dspDrew:

that was actually a file

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dspDrew:

i just renamed that file

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Casper82:

?

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Casper82:

2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64 should be a directory

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Casper82:

I don't think kernel-devel is installed

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Casper82:

or installed correctly

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dspDrew:

hm

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Casper82:

do a yum remove kernel-devel

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Casper82:

then yum install kernel-devel;

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Casper82:

err forget the ; heh

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dspDrew:

yeah there is a file called 2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64

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dspDrew:

not a directory

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Casper82:

remove kernel-devel

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Casper82:

check to see if that file still exists. if it does, remove it

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Casper82:

then install kernel-devel

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dspDrew:

that files gone

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dspDrew:

I'm installing

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dspDrew:

created a file again

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Casper82:

give me a pastebin of that directory ls -la

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dspDrew:

this one

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dspDrew:

which one I mean

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Casper82:

/usr/src/kernels/

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dspDrew:

http://pastebin.ca/1721131

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Casper82:

Ok

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Casper82:

i'm trying something real quick

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dspDrew:

alright

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Casper82:

but it appears kernel-devel is giving you newer source than it should

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Casper82:

try this yum install kernel-devel-$(uname -r)

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Casper82:

once that's done, you should be in business

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Casper82:

brb 5 mins

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dspDrew:

gotta uninstall first

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dspDrew:

it didn't want to instlal cause it already had a newer one installed

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dspDrew:

so you are right

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Casper82:

so now you should be able to make, correct?

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dspDrew:

haha idk

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dspDrew:

i hope

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dspDrew:

another error

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Casper82:

pastebin it

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dspDrew:

http://pastebin.ca/1721138

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Casper82:

yum install gcc

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dspDrew:

oh yeah I jsut noticed that

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dspDrew:

man I'm gonna have to make myself a tutorial

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dspDrew:

this was only a test system

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dspDrew:

I'll have to go through all this again

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Casper82:

well... if kernel-devel matched your kernel, the other tutorial would have worked

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dspDrew:

well there was some commands I was missing

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dspDrew:

looks like it's running now

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Casper82:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-2200

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Casper82:

where he has install kernel-devel, do kernel-devel-$(uname -r)

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dspDrew:

oh wow

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dspDrew:

that doc explains everything

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Casper82:

except why fedora's kernel-devel does not match your installed kernel :)

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Casper82:

One thing to remember... if you ever update your kernel... you will have to do a make distclean, make, then sudo make install

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Casper82:

until your distro gets up to 2.6.32

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dspDrew:

i see

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artus36:

Good morning

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dspDrew:

Casper82: i still don't see any cards in the setup

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Casper82:

dspDrew: did you reboot?

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dspDrew:

yup

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Casper82:

and you did do sudo make install, correct?

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dspDrew:

oh oops

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Casper82:

:)

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dspDrew:

forgot that

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dspDrew:

haha

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Casper82:

That is important :D

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dspDrew:

haha yeah

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Casper82:

mark that in your notes heh

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artus36:

what is the requirement for HD for mythtv from mainboard and processor?

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dspDrew:

haha yeah that's already there

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dspDrew:

I'm just getting tired

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Casper82:

I hear ya. I should have been sleeping a while ago :)

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Casper82:

dspDrew: also remember, you will need to do the setup as if you have two cards. Setup 1, then go back and setup another.

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dspDrew:

still not showing any card

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Casper82:

let me know if this gives you any results

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Casper82:

dmesg | grep saa7164

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Casper82:

if so, pastebin

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dspDrew:

nothing

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Casper82:

and you had no errors with sudo make install

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Casper82:

and you rebooted after that

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dspDrew:

yeah

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dspDrew:

no errors

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dspDrew:

and i rebooted

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Casper82:

thinking

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dspDrew:

i think this mythdora is a pile of crap

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Casper82:

do me a favor and pastebin me your output from dmesg

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dspDrew:

http://pastebin.ca/1721155

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Casper82:

did you do the steps where you download the firmware and extract it with extract.sh?

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dspDrew:

yeah

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Casper82:

and you copied them to /lib/firmware?

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dspDrew:

yeah

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Casper82:

This sticks out # for some linux distros, might need the following line instead of the above

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flexy:

We have the tv serie names translated here, so jamu does not find all of the series. How do I tell it that "translated name" is the same as "original name"?

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Casper82:

cp *fw /lib/firmware/`uname -r`

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Casper82:

not sure if that's the case for fedora

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Casper82:

I'd try copying the firmware there

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dspDrew:

cp: target `/lib/firmware/2.6.27.9–159.fc10.x86_64' is not a directory

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dspDrew:

create it

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Casper82:

nah

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Casper82:

then it should be right

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Casper82:

try modprobe saa7164

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dspDrew:

idid what it said for stable

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dspDrew:

stable tree

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Casper82:

Yes

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Casper82:

stable branch is good

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dspDrew:

that returned nothing

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Casper82:

well, I'd try rebooting that box one more time

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Casper82:

and do dmesg | grep 7164

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dspDrew:

i rebooted quite a few times but Ill do it again

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dspDrew:

returned nothing

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Casper82:

you rebooted already?

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dspDrew:

yeah

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Casper82:

hrmm

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Casper82:

can you cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/media/video/saa7164/

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dspDrew:

yes

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Casper82:

and saa7164.ko exists in that dir, correct

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dspDrew:

yes

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Casper82:

I am really at a loss. It appears that you compiled and installed right. I dunno why it's not picking up your card

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dspDrew:

yeh well thanks for the help

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Casper82:

and, I am too tired to think anymore

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dspDrew:

i think I'm trashing this thing

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Casper82:

No prob. sorry we couldnt get it working

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GlemSom:

I've been trying to get mythweather to work, but with no luck at all... I cannot find any major Danish towns at all... I tried going directly to bbc's website, and there it works fine -> http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2399 What am I doing wrong here? (I'm searching for the town Horsens in mythweather)

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dspDrew:

Casper82: got it

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dspDrew:

:)

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dspDrew:

you didn't waste your time after all

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dspDrew:

i tried a different slot

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Casper82:

hah I was going to suggest that but thought nah

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Casper82:

glad it worked out for ya :)

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lsolesen1:

GlemSom: Do you have everything else working for mythtv in Denmark – I am having a lot of trouble :/?

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GlemSom:

lsolesen1, Yeah, DVB-C works fine – with an extra patch though ( http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3640 )

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lsolesen1:

GlemSom: How did you scan for your programs? – I tested my card using the instructions on http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_dvb.php (even though it did not find all of the channels osterbo.dk provides), but cannot get mythtv to find any channels. And when I try to use the denmark xmltv as the video source it complains about utf8-problems?

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GlemSom:

lsolesen1, I had to use the dvbstreamdata.cpp.patch to get channel-scannings to work. (Remember to edit your network ID in the patch).

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artus36:

when I want to use shutdown and wakeup I always get: sudo /bin/bash /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh command not found

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artus36:

any idea anybody?

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oobe:

mayve /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh does not exist

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lsolesen1:

GlemSom: will have a look. It is a bit difficult to have this setup :)

[10:09:31]

tank-man:

yea, cause you don't have the script "setwakeup.sh"

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artus36:

it does

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oobe:

so you can type setwakeup.sh from a console and it executes fine

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artus36:

sudo "/bin/sh -c /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh 1261332720"

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artus36:

sudo: /bin/sh -c /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh 1261332720: command not found

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oobe:

type which setwakeup.sh

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GlemSom:

lsolesen, yeah... I get my channels from AFOSHS – which gets them from YouSee... YouSee has a broken DVB-C setup! (You're not sending the right network-id)... I've contacted both AFOSHS and YouSee – but with no luck at all...

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lsolesen1:

damn, i am pretty sure that osterbo.dk gets it from yousee also.

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GlemSom:

Yeah, seems YouSee is the only DVB-C provider here (And maybe stofa?)... And YouSee don't wanna fix it – since it works on their boxes (which hardcodes the network ID!)

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dspDrew:

my god this schedules direct line up isn't even close to right

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lsolesen1:

GlemSom: damn, and w_scan it is not all that easy to setup either. The joy of trying to do something clever.

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lsolesen1:

GlemSom: Where did you download w_scan from?

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GlemSom:

lsolesen, I don't use w_scan.. I use the patch I wrote earlier... no need for w_scan then!

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lsolesen:

GlemSom: Changed nick. Where is that. I googled it and came to this page: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Channel_tuning_broken_with_DVB-C

[10:18:44]

GlemSom:

lsolesen, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/raw-attachment/tic . . . ta.cpp.patch

[10:19:27]

lsolesen:

GlemSom: Sorry to be bothering you – but how do one install a patch? :/

[10:19:28]

GlemSom:

lsolesen, I sent you a private message.

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flexy:

We have the tv serie names translated here, so jamu does not find all of the series. How do I tell it that "translated name" is the same as "original name"?

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messerting:

Hi, I'm planning to rip all of my CD's to FLAC, but am concerned about the quality of metadata available online. What databases are good/can you recommend?

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messerting:

Any nice software/scripts available that will make this job semi-automatic?

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gbee:

mythmusic ... ? Well you did ask in the mythtv-users channel

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messerting_:

gbee: well, but it doesn't support ripping (although there is a setting just for that)

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gbee:

err yes it does

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gbee:

to ogg, mp3 and flac

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gbee:

including automatic metadata import and configurable file/directory naming

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messerting_:

hm, interesting – will try it out. thanks :)

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messerting_:

I need to enable flac somehow

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gbee:

it needs to be enabled at compile time, if you are using packages and don't have flac available then file a bug with the distro

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gbee:

flac is used in mythmusic for ripping when you select the 'perfect' quality option

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flexy:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721250

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flexy:

any idea why jamu is failing? see the link above...

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Nidhoegger:

has someone the wiki entry at hand with the specifications for a grabber script?

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Nidhoegger:

no one?

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gbee:

what sort of grabber script?

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gbee:

weather, video, xmltv ... ?

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gbee:

http://wiki.xmltv.org/index.php/XMLTVFormat http://xmltv.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/x . . . tv/xmltv.dtd

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gbee:

http://wiki.xmltv.org/index.php/XMLTVProject

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Nidhoegger:

metadata

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Nidhoegger:

like the imdb.py

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Nidhoegger:

i wanna write one for german users

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gbee:

tmdb already supports German, just needs to request the german results/api

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gbee:

iamlindoro, RDV_Linux: any documentation for writing a new grabber?

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RDV_Linux:

gbee: The tmdb.py grabber in trunk supprts multi-languages. The issue is right now that TMDB has not implemented the language option in their v2.1 api. Still only english. The option is -l and the two character language code. 'de' in this case.

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RDV_Linux:

The api supports multi language but the TMDB site does not have any movies identified with anything but 'en'

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RDV_Linux:

gbee: I tried to ask the admin of the TMDB site what specific languages codes he would support and he told me to wait until he has updated the Web site.

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RDV_Linux:

That was suppose to be done a few weeks ago, but the guy is over worked from what I can tell.

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lsolesen:

I am trying to do a video source setup using xmltv, so I can use the scheduler in mythtv. I choose Denmark, but it seems there is a utf8-encoding problem. Is there a workaround?

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sphery:

lsolesen: what problem are you seeing? (Specific symptoms, please.)

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lsolesen:

sphery: when choosin video source setup, I choose Denmark (xmltv) --> hit configure --> no channels could be found at tv_grab_dk_dr in line 242 --> getting list of channels: Parsing of undecoded UTF-8 will give garbage when decoding entities at tv_grab_dk_dr ---> exited with status 255

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sphery:

lsolesen: Sounds like a problem with the grabber itself--one that the XMLTV guys would be better equipped to help you solve.

[13:47:33]

sphery:

lsolesen: I'm assuming you're using MythTV 0.22-fixes or better. If not, it's possible it's a system misconfiguration with MythTV 0.21-fixes or below.

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sphery:

in which case, you should just upgrade to the currently supported version of Myth (0.22-fixes) rather than try to figure out the old way.

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lsolesen:

i am using the newest mythtv from the ubuntu repos --> so guess it must be the newest, but will check.

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sphery:

if it's 9.10, it's a 0.22 pre-release. It should be close enough, but it probably wouldn't hurt to get an update to current 0.22-fixes.

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lsolesen:

oki. Are they in the repos anywhere?

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sphery:

something about enabling some repo... I don't know my *buntu.

[13:50:07]

sphery:

someone else on here will be able to help.

[13:50:23]

sphery:

I still think, though, you're going to have to fix the grabber.

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sphery:

I recommend you check xmltv mailing list archives to see if there's any discussion about that grabber

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lsolesen:

sphery: I am using branches/release-0-22-fixes (22594)

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lsolesen:

sphery: can I just use a custom grabber. Have another one downloaded.

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sphery:

lsolesen: yeah, current 0.22-fixes is r22991 (with about 70–80 bug-fix changes since the version you have)

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lsolesen:

ah, ok

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sphery:

as far as other grabbers, I don't know anything about grabbers for your area. Check with other users and the wiki has some info on it.

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sphery:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XMLTV

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sphery:

gotta go... good luck

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lsolesen:

sphery: yes, think I have to put my custom grabber in a particular place to get it to show up.

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lsolesen:

sphery: thanks

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sphery:

lsolesen: actually, the custom grabber has to support the tv_find_grabbers and the xmltv capabilities specifications

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sphery:

but good luck either way

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gbee:

grab the latest tv_grab_dk script from the xmltv website

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lsolesen:

gbee: and just replace it with the one in /usr/bin/tv_grab_dk_dr

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lsolesen:

gbee: Seems the grabber is not working at hte moment http://www.xmltv.se/validator/nightly/

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antgel:

my programme guide doesn't display any data for ITV1. in mythweb channel settings, the channel is there, available from two sources, and both have the correct xmltv id (london.itv1.itv.co.uk)

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antgel:

i ran mythfilldatabase manually and there were no (obvious) errors

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antgel:

how can i debug this further?

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antgel:

i can give some more info

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gbee:

have you run with '-v xmltv' ?

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antgel:

gbee: running now with -v most and logging to a file

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antgel:

have had a look in the database. SELECT * FROM channel where channum = 3; reports chanids 2003 and 11060. however whilst select * from program where chanid = 11060; shows the programs, select * from program where chanid = 2003; reports nothing

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antgel:

perhaps that's related – i'd expect them both to be populated

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gbee:

SELECT sourceid FROM channel WHERE channum = 3;

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antgel:

we have 1 and 2, as i would expect

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gbee:

make sure both .xmltv files contain london.itv1.itv.co.uk

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gbee:

i.e. if source 1 is Freeview and source 2 is Freesat, check that it appears in both Freeview.xmltv and Freesat.xmltv

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gbee:

which should both be under ~/.mythtv/

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antgel:

well that explains it

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antgel:

my Freeview.xmltv has vanished

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antgel:

it used to exist, honest!

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antgel:

i just have my Astra 28.2E.xmltv

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iamlindoro:

Very late for the answer to this question, but: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_Grabber_Script_Format

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iamlindoro:

Spec covers trunk only

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gbee:

Nidhoegger: ^^

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antgel:

gbee: SELECT xmltvid FROM channel where sourceid = 2; should assist me rebuilding the file. thanks so much, been stumped on this :)

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gbee:

if there is one thing I should be able to debug ;)

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antgel:

gbee++ regarding the wiki

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antgel:

hmm, sunday afternoon nap then perhaps a go at updating my database to get itv hd (got some logs from discussions on #m)

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_abbenormal:

hey guy i want to backup my data base where do i look for the command for that

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_abbenormal:

guys

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lsolesen:

Now I got mysqlfilldatabase to fill the database from an xmltv file manually downloaded. But when I go into the frontend under Schedule Recordings --> Program Guide --> nothing displays. And the headline in the top is Unknown. So I need to do anything in particular to get the program guide showing?

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zkab:

My box has MB Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H with Geforce 9400 onboard.

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zkab:

I run Debian AMD64 (unstable) and downloaded source from 0-22-fixes: http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-22-fixes/

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zkab:

Since I want to use VDPAU I tried to compile from the example from mythtv-wiki (section VDPAU):

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zkab:

./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-proc-opt --disable-joystick-menu \

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zkab:

--disable-firewire --disable-hdhomerun --disable-xvmcw --enable-xvmc-opengl \

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zkab:

--enable-vdpau --disable-directfb --enable-opengl-vsync

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zkab:

but got:

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zkab:

Unknown option "--enable-xvmc-opengl"

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zkab:

Since I am new to mythtv I am not sure of all the options available ... my questions:

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zkab:

1. What is the best ./configure for mythtv and plugins for my hardware

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zkab:

2. I have a DVB-S2 card and my intention is to watch HD in the future

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_abbenormal:

zkab, disable that in the command line

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zkab:

do you mean "--disable-xvmc-opengl"

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_abbenormal:

yes

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zkab:

what about the rest in configure – have I missed anything ?

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_abbenormal:

the norm is all are enabled unless you disable them

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_abbenormal:

the line looks ok other than that

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zkab:

OK – i tried "--disable-xvmc-opengl" but still got unknown option

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zkab:

abbenormal, I removed "--enable-xvmc-opengl" and now it didn't complain ... but XvMC libs says "-lchromeXvMC". Since I have NVIDIA geforce 9400 shouldn't there be a ref to some NVIDIA libs/drivers ?

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MythbuntuGuest50:

anyone here that knows hot to get a hvr 850 to work with analog??

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_abbenormal:

yes hold on let me find what you need to change

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_abbenormal:

not sure this is needed but i do it on mine sudo nano -w /etc/X11/XvMCConfig change whats in there too libXvMCNVIDIA_dynamic.so.1

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_abbenormal:

then try command line

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MythbuntuGuest50:

umm why would i change anything in x11??

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wagnerrp:

_abbenormal: for future reference, the 8-series and newer chips do not support any form of xvmc, and users should not be setting any configure options unless they specifically need to fix something that configure got wrong

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_abbenormal:

ok wasnt sure on that didnt think it needed it to be changed

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_abbenormal:

im use to habit and try to do the same in all my setups then if it dont work figure out what has to be changed

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_abbenormal:

i wished i could find a good how2 to follow but everyone has a different way of doing things each does something a little different as you know

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dspDrew:

everytime I try to start up the mythtv front end application it looks like it's starting and then it disapears and goes back to the desktop

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czth:

log?

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zombu3:

is teh backend running?

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dspDrew:

yes backend is running

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wagnerrp:

dspDrew: logs?

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dspDrew:

this is all on the main server

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dspDrew:

i can look for the logs

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wagnerrp:

the logs will tell all

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wagnerrp:

s/can/should/

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zombu3:

well i got my logs here maybe you can tell me wth is going on with my hvr 850

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zombu3:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721413

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wagnerrp:

zombu3: looks like youve skipped a couple steps in mythtv-setup

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zombu3:

eh?

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wagnerrp:

specifically, you have defined a card, but you have not told mythtv what to do with those inputs

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zombu3:

ehm i setup the card downoaded the schedulesdirect and stuff

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wagnerrp:

you need to define your card, define your content source, and bind that content source to one of the inputs on the card

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wagnerrp:

steps 2–4

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zombu3:

umm maybe you can point me to the page it s at so ican do it again

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wagnerrp:

mythtv-setup, step 4

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wagnerrp:

lines 53–58 are complaining that you did not do that properly

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zombu3:

well to be honest i dunno where you see those steps

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wagnerrp:

in mythtv-setup, the first thing it shows you when you open it up, there are six numbered items

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wagnerrp:

general, card setup, source setup, input setup, channel manager, storage groups

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wagnerrp:

you need to go to input setup

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zombu3:

ok

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zombu3:

then set teh analog side to the channel lineup right?

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wagnerrp:

set whatever input on the analog card you are using to the proper source

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zombu3:

ok i did set it to analog and all i get is i m thrown back iunto the main menu after clicking watch tv

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dspDrew:

http://pastebin.ca/1721434

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dspDrew:

there's my logs

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zombu3:

saying inrecoverable recorder error

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wagnerrp:

dspDrew: thats it? thats all you get before it closes?

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dspDrew:

yes

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wagnerrp:

if thats the case, you need to run it more verbosely

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jpabq:

jamu generally seems to work great. But it misses a couple of shows, so I assume I have something setup slightly off. For example, it auto grabs "NCIS: Los Angeles" just fine, but misses plain "NCIS". http://thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=72108&lid=7 The output from jamu just says All Graphics already downloaded for [NCIS], but my coverart dir only has a "NCIS: Los Angeles" file.

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zombu3:

wagnerrp i think i did everything correctly but still i m in the dark on this cards

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: For the shows that are missed you add an entry in the jamu.conf file in the overrides section. Check the wiki.

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zombu3:

well i m out of ideas i reinstalled 5 times already the digitalo part is all messed up and analog don t work at all

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jpabq:

RDV_Linux, I did, but maybe I did it wrong. For example, it is also missing Alice (2009) http://thetvdb.com/?tab=series&id=123411&lid=7 , so I added "Alice:123411" and "Alice (2009):123411", but that resulted in http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721440

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: I am looking at the pastebin now back in a few

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: Well unfortunately this is an issue with your EPG info. Alice is being recognized as a movie as the EPG data has no subtitle. Jamu uses the EPG subtitle presence to determine whether the program is a TV show or Movie.

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jpabq:

RDV_Linux, ah. Is there a way to tell it in the config file?

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: If jamu does not find the program as a movie it even tries to find it as a TV show. The issue is that the show name is not an exact match on TVDB so catch-22.

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dspDrew:

so how do I get it to show anymore logs

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: You have two option (1) Manual graphics download and naming to the standard (best option); (2) add a subtitle in the database (not recommended)

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jpabq:

RDV_Linux, thanks. I can do option (1).

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: If you manually download the graphics do not run the jamu -J janitor option as it will remove those graphics. You have been warned.

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jpabq:

RDV_Linux, Any way for me to diagnose the missing NCIS coverfile? Jamu seems to think it has successfully processed NCIS, but all I see are "NCIS:Los Angeles" files.

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jpabq:

RDV_Linux, Thanks!

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: Interesting I suspect that it is because the check for exiting graphics uses a starts with check and "NCIS:Los Angeles" causes a match. I do not know how to get around this one.

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jared__:

hi, i recently upgraded to 0.22 from 0.20; i used to be able to see about 10 channels at a time in the "schedule recordings" menu, but now i only see four... is there a way to increase this? i can't seem to figure out where it's at

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: Add NCIS to your manual doenload list

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jpabq:

RDV_Linux, OK. If you think of something, I will be happy to test. Thanks again.

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RDV_Linux:

jpabq: Right now all my development time is devoted to the Netvision plugin project. I am developing the grabbers.

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jpabq:

RDV_Linux, cool. This is not a high priority, I can do it manually.

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dspDrew:

I'm trying to run the live cd, where would my database server be

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dspDrew:

is that my backend

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_abbenormal:

yes

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dspDrew:

what port should I put

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dspDrew:

6543?

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dspDrew:

it keeps saying it can't connect

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_abbenormal:

ping the backend

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dspDrew:

it says the live cd I'm using has an older database version

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dspDrew:

do I have to run updates

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[R]:

the frontend's version has to match the versino of the backend

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_abbenormal:

and has to be in the same time zone as the backend

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_abbenormal:

unless u can remaster the cd dont think an update can be done

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haywire:

hello everyone

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haywire:

does the NFS share for videos, music, etc on the backend need to be mounted on the frontend. I can't see any videos and I have hundreds

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[R]:

haywire: if you aren't using storage groups, the frontend needs to be able to see the files locally

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haywire:

[R]: so mounting the NFS share does no good? I have to have local copies of all my videos on my frontend?

[17:53:00]

[R]:

thats waht mounting the nfs share does...

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haywire:

ok, thanks. I've tried mounting in fstab to /var/lib/mythtv/videos (the default) and I can see the files in doing a 'ls', but the frontend sees nothing.

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[R]:

did you do the scan?

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haywire:

how do I do that?

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[R]:

you could start by reading the documentation

[17:55:28]

haywire:

well, thanks anyway

[17:59:46]

Nidhoegger:

thx iamlindoro (very late to thank you for *gg*)

[17:59:51]

jared__:

when i change the volume on myth, it seems to also change the system-wide volume, but then it gets out of sync, e.g., the system volume will be at 30 and myth volume will be at 99%, and i can't make it any louder...

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gbee:

sigh

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Nidhoegger:

:P

[18:01:44]

Nidhoegger:

is it enough as search results to echo it to the console? does mythtv parse the output or has it a special command that must be called?

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Nidhoegger:

and can the plot data pair be multiline or has it to be a single line?

[18:06:09]

iamlindoro:

result returned to stdout

[18:06:14]

iamlindoro:

and no newlines in the plot

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Nidhoegger:

okay

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Nidhoegger:

erm and ive mailed with the people who run the site i am going to use. they said i can use their data from the site for the script, as long its freeware (ill make it opensource) and its not commercially, can i add this to mythtv or will it get any conflicts in the licences?

[18:08:32]

Nidhoegger:

i mean like add it to svn or the wiki or something

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iamlindoro:

The site terms and conditions would need to allow for it, and would need verification from the site owners if those terms are unclear

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Nidhoegger:

i have verification in form of an email, to use the page for a grabber script. but i dont know if it conflicts with the mythtv license, when its in the svn or linked in the wiki

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iamlindoro:

For it to get included in Myth, the above two things would need to be true, would need to be able to verify that the script is approved

[18:11:08]

Nidhoegger:

i can translate you the part of the mail if you want ;) "if you gonna make the tool freeware, its no problem of our sight to use the data. Its just important that the data isnt used commercially"

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iamlindoro:

either the terms and conditions explicitly permit scraping, or we are able to contact the site owners to confirm that the script is approved by them

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iamlindoro:

don't need translation, would need to perform our own verification

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Nidhoegger:

ah okay

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Nidhoegger:

so ill tell you when im done, so you (or someone else) can verify this?

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iamlindoro:

what site are you planning to use as a data source?

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Nidhoegger:

http://www.ofdb.de/

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Nidhoegger:

i know there are several scripts around, but im planning to implement some other features

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iamlindoro:

ofdb is fine

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Nidhoegger:

okay

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fauxalliance:

hello

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fauxalliance:

anyone with those dreaded wintv-hvr950q?

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wilberfan:

my hauppauge pvr-350 get's it's input from an analog-to-digital converter box...but I'm having trouble adding channel "3" to the setup. The scan function freezes on Channel 2... Do I have to manually add a channel, or...?

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dspDrew:

can anyone tell me what the problem is with my frontend http://pastebin.ca/1721510

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[R]:

if you are using a box

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[R]:

you shodu'nt be scanning

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wilberfan:

[R], i can't record or watch live tv because it says it needs a channel...

[18:30:48]

[R]:

you need to get a listings source

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[R]:

and add the channels from it

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[R]:

or manually add the chanenls

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[R]:

btu you can't scan

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xand:

dspDrew: Unable to read configuration file mysql.txt... and not sure running it as root is a good idea

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dspDrew:

I'm not

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dspDrew:

maybe that's the problem

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dspDrew:

is this maybe cause I set something up in root

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dspDrew:

what's the command to run the forntend

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dspDrew:

frontend

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Nidhoegger:

xand that is the problem

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Nidhoegger:

i had this a few days before

[18:39:08]

Nidhoegger:

every user has own config files in ~, so you should configure as the user u want to use it

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dspDrew:

well this right now is just temporary to check my signal

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dspDrew:

what's the command to start the mythtv frontend

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dspDrew:

amazing nobody can tell me this

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dspDrew:

one word

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highzeth:

amazing you cant figure that one out yourself

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dspDrew:

I'm not a linux user

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dspDrew:

but I'm searching now

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dspDrew:

too bad one of those 8 words couldn't have just been the command

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dspDrew:

but thanks

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highzeth:

why feed you the command(s)? what possible good could come out of that for you? You'd still be as clueless as you where to start with.

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highzeth:

no worries, Im here all night, keep asking, I'll put the mirror up ;)

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Nidhoegger:

mythfrontend @ dspDrew

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haywire:

[R]: I have read and reread the documentation – and causing a scan does no good. I can see the list of files in a terminal but frontend sees no files whatsoever. Any ideas, please?

[18:49:28]

[R]:

haywire: sounds like you didnt read the documentation because its not configured properlly if scanning does nothing

[18:49:37]

lsolesen:

My program guide does not show programs, but the program finder lists a lot of programs, and I successfully imported programs via mythfilldatabase.

[18:49:51]

lsolesen:

Anyone know what the problem can be?

[18:50:56]

haywire:

[R]: ok, have it your way. I have read the entire http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo#Scanning_for_Videos web page, web pages on NFS, rebooted the backend and the frontend. Oh well.

[18:51:32]

highzeth:

lsolesen: you did associate all xmltv id's with the said channels?

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[R]:

haywire: if you read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo#Local_Video_Storage then it would be confiugred propelry and it would work

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haywire:

[R]: thanks for the link. Will read now.

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lsolesen:

highzeth: Nope, they are not associated. Does it have to be done manually?

[18:52:22]

[R]:

haywire: its the same page you already claimed to have read

[18:52:50]

haywire:

[R]: I just noticed that. Thanks.

[18:52:54]

lsolesen:

highzeth: And where do I find the xmltv id's

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highzeth:

lsolesen: sadly, yes. Easiest "mass edit" for such can be done with mythweb. If you dont associate them, they will be added to the db(and will show up in program finder), but wont show up in EPG.

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lsolesen:

highzeth: where do I find the xmltv id's?

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highzeth:

look at the conf files that you got from configuring which channels you wanted epg for

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lsolesen:

is an id a number or could it also be characters?

[18:55:25]

highzeth:

can be both or a combo, depends where you live & what sources you are after

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dspDrew:

Nidhoegger: thanks yeah I found it

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lsolesen:

highzeth: this is my conf-file – I think: http://pastie.org/750929

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lsolesen:

Any of those?

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zombu3:

hey can anyone look at this log and tell me whats wrong http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721530

[18:56:40]

zombu3:

i can see the analog tv in vlc

[18:56:46]

haywire:

does anyone besides [R] have any ideas why a mounted NFS folder with dozens of videos won't show up on the frontend (it is configured to look at /var/lib/mythtv/videos, the default, where the share is mounted)

[18:58:24]

highzeth:

lsolesen: looks like it

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highzeth:

lsolesen: you can have a look via mythweb to confirm. The "epg" channels will be there without a channel number.

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gmspence_:

anyone had any experience with streaming to ipod/iphone? i've followed the instrutions on http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Streaming_to_iPod_touch_or_iPhone but every time i come to encode i get the error: Recording directory, /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/data/recordings, is not writable by www-data .

[19:12:14]

gmspence_:

Please add www-data to mythtv group in /etc/group and make sure that the store directory

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gmspence_:

is writable by www-data – ie chmod 775 MYTHTV_STORE . i've added www-data to the mythtv group and chmod the directory....am stuck for ideas? any suggestions?

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[R]:

gmspence_: ls -l /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/data/recordings

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[R]:

gmspence_: did you restart apache after you changed the groups?

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gmspence_:

lrwxrwxrwx 2 root root 26 2009-10–18 18:34 /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/data/recordings -> /var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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gmspence_:

umm just restarted the ubuntu box not apache – presume it has the same effect?

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[R]:

ls -l /var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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gmspence_:

ls -l /var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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gmspence_:

total 6337824

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gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 1330169936 2009-12–04 23:15 1001_20091204223900.mpg

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gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 16330 2009-12–19 14:28 1001_20091204223900.mpg.114x64.png

[19:16:51]

gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 11858 2009-12–19 14:00 1001_20091204223900.mpg.64.100x56.png

[19:16:52]

gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 96406 2009-12–19 14:00 1001_20091204223900.mpg.64.png

[19:16:54]

gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 110625 2009-12–04 23:31 1001_20091204223900.mpg.png

[19:16:56]

gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 952163036 2009-11–30 22:10 1005_20091130205500.mpg

[19:17:00]

gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 9471 2009-12–19 14:01 1005_20091130205500.mpg.64.100x56.png

[19:17:02]

gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 67454 2009-12–19 14:01 1005_20091130205500.mpg.64.png

[19:17:04]

gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 75443 2009-12–01 18:09 1005_20091130205500.mpg.png

[19:17:06]

gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 1051831048 2009-11–21 23:50 1019_20091121225500.mpg

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** [R] smacks gmspence_ **

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gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 16507 2009-12–19 14:00 1019_20091121225500.mpg.64.100x75.png

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gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 107945 2009-12–19 14:00 1019_20091121225500.mpg.64.png

[19:17:12]

gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 12144 2009-12–02 00:07 1019_20091121225500.mpg.93x70.png

[19:17:14]

gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 108021 2009-11–22 01:07 1019_20091121225500.mpg.png

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gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 1217039996 2009-10–19 00:10 2004_20091018233000.mpg

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gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 11623 2009-12–02 00:08 2004_20091018233000.mpg.124x70.png

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gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 7964 2009-12–19 14:00 2004_20091018233000.mpg.64.100x56.png

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zombu3:

WTF

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gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 65115 2009-12–19 14:00 2004_20091018233000.mpg.64.png

[19:17:24]

gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 55663 2009-12–01 00:17 2004_20091018233000.mpg.png

[19:17:26]

gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 569174136 2009-10–19 00:28 2004_20091019001100.mpg

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gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 11097 2009-12–02 00:08 2004_20091019001100.mpg.124x70.png

[19:17:32]

gmspence_:

-rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 7575 2009-12–19 14:00 2004_20091019001100.mpg.64.100x56.png

[19:17:34]

gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv mythtv 58576 2009-12–19 14:00 2004_20091019001100.mpg.64.png

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gmspence_:

-rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv

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zombu3:

don t do that again

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[R]:

gmspence_: did you really find it necessary to flood the channel?

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gmspence_:

whoops sorry didn't mean to flood

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[R]:

i meant

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[R]:

ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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gmspence_:

whats that site you past ur terminal outputs into and it gives u the link called again?

[19:18:20]

gmspence_:

*paste

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gbee:

http://pastebin.ca

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[R]:

well i only want the 1 line

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zombu3:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/

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_abbenormal:

its in the topic

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gbee:

it's in the topic

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gbee:

snap

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** gbee collects his winnings **

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gmspence_:

oh aye that's it sorry

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zombu3:

guys can you look at my log and tell me what mythtv is complaining about??

[19:19:16]

zombu3:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721533

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gmspence_:

so any suggestions?

[19:20:09]

[R]:

[12:18:02] [R] i meant

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[R]:

[12:18:05] [R] ls -ld /var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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gmspence_:

says drwxr-sr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 4096 2009-12–20 19:06 /var/lib/mythtv/recordings

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gbee:

gmspence_: it's having problems connecting to the backend

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gbee:

is this over wifi or some other unstable connection?

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[R]:

gmspence_: and what user does your webserver run as?

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gmspence_:

no over lan

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gmspence_:

[r] that's a very good questions.... not sure...how do i find out?

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[R]:

gmspence_: its in the config file

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gmspence_:

in apache2.conf?

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[R]:

you'll have to consult your dist's documentation if you dont knwo how to configure your webserver

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gmspence_:

it's a bog standard ubuntu setup

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gmspence_:

i wouldn't have changed any defaults so i presume www-data no?

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[R]:

i have no clue what they use

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lsolesen:

highzeth: tried to put the xmltv id's into the db for the channels with channel numbers, but still nothing showing up in the program guide.

[19:27:45]

Cool_C:

hello. question: if you have multiple video directories set up, is it possible to have jamu exclude/ignore some of them on it's scan? alternativly specify a single directory to scan?

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zombu3:

what does this mean Channel(/dev/video1) Error: InitPictureAttribute( colour): failed to query controls.

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gmspence_:

yeah pretty sure it is....i hope

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highzeth:

lsolesen: did you re-run mythfilldatabase?

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lsolesen:

highzeth: nope. Trying that.

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highzeth:

it doesnt magically re-shuffle the epg data ;)

[19:29:23]

Cool_C:

follow up question would be how to do it :)

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lsolesen:

hehe

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: Within a cronjob the answer is no. In a terminal session you can do a command like ./jamu -MIV "target directory" "target directory"

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Cool_C:

ah, so it does actually take a directory as input? in the examples it looked like you could only specify certain shows etc.

[19:31:45]

RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: Jamu will only process the "target directory" and it's sub-directories

[19:32:05]

Cool_C:

thanks! going to try it now

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zombu3:

does nobody know what this error is

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: You can even compound the directories like: ./jamu -MIV "target1 directory" "target1 directory" "target2 directory" "target2 directory" ... etc

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Cool_C:

but it's not possible without the I flag?

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Cool_C:

RDV_Linux: hmm, jamu just thinks i want to move the directory and complain i need to specify destination directory?

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: No it is possible or at least I think it is

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: The directories are always in pairs using the same directory as both target and destination tricks Jamu to process the one directory.

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: Create a test directory in a Video path and experiment.

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: Safest thing to do

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: Of course the test directory will need at least one video file in it even if it is a zero length file with a video file extension.

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Cool_C:

does not seem to work. it just process all the directories anyway... but i'll try a bit more later then.

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lsolesen:

highzeth: Perfect. That worked. In the database there are some duplicate channels (some with channum set and some without. If I want to make sure that my box can show all the channels I got (I can see at least two channels without a number, that I know that I should have access to), and I only want EPG for some special channels – which ones can I delete? Is it necessary with to entries for the EPG-channels?

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: Here is a variation for you, use the -MG options with the directories as above. -MG is like -MI but it tells Jamu to guess at what the video file is and does not force interactive mode.

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highzeth:

lsolesen: delete the ones without a channel number, they are "not there" anyway(it, not tuneable)

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highzeth:

s/it/ie/

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lsolesen:

highseth: ok. I will do that. But what about the two channels (which I know should be tuneable – how can I tune them in?)

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highzeth:

what source do you have? if digital look at the multiplex its supposed to be on and try to scan that one again, if analog.. re-check channel number

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Cool_C:

hey, RDV_Linux, that worked! great stuff, thanks :)

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RDV_Linux:

Cool_C: You know when there are too many options when the author forgets all the tricks;)

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Cool_C:

hah

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MartinJT:

hi, need a bit of help with grabbing metadata in MythVideo... I've ripped Eddie Izzard Stripped... called it Eddie.Izzard.Stripped.avi... when I try and grab metadata it won't find anything...

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MartinJT:

I've also tried adding the tmdb number in jamu and that isn't finding it either

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wagnerrp:

does that entry have an IMDB number?

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RDV_Linux:

MartinJT: I assume that this is a movie?

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MartinJT:

yes

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MartinJT:

and yes

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Nidhoegger:

does a grabber script from mythtv always calls the -l parameter the " "?

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Nidhoegger:

or can it do it without?

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RDV_Linux:

MartinJT: Give me a but to try a test and I will get back to you,

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MartinJT:

k

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MartinJT:

tmdb number is 25629

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wagnerrp:

Nidhoegger: 0.22 or trunk?

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MartinJT:

I added this line to jamu.conf "Eddie Izzard Stripped:25629"

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Nidhoegger:

0.22

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wagnerrp:

in 0.22, its entirely up to you what inputs to give it

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Nidhoegger:

okay

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wagnerrp:

if you look in the database, you see that each query has an settings entry

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Nidhoegger:

yeah i know that

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wagnerrp:

but i would advise following the wiki page i sent you a while back

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Nidhoegger:

mhmm, i cant really say what i want to, in german it would be easier

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wagnerrp:

and as it states, it has to accept a '-l' value

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wagnerrp:

even if you completely ignore that value

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Nidhoegger:

yeah, but the data behind the -l is generated by mythtv, is it between quotes or not? *gg*

[20:01:56]

wagnerrp:

likely not behind quotes

[20:02:01]

wagnerrp:

but im not sure on that one

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Nidhoegger:

if yes, i can simply cut it off, if no, im happy -> no work, if its sometimes yes and sometimes no, i would need to set up a regex

[20:02:14]

wagnerrp:

should be letters, possibly with dashes or undeerscores

[20:02:34]

wagnerrp:

but either way, it will be one single word

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wagnerrp:

no spaces

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Nidhoegger:

according to the wiki the data call is: ./tmdb.pl -l en -M "Harry"

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Nidhoegger:

so there are quotes

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Nidhoegger:

and my question just is, if they are always there

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wagnerrp:

because 'Harry' is a title, it might be multiple words

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wagnerrp:

'en' is a language, going to be one word always

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Nidhoegger:

i just need to know for the -l switch

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Nidhoegger:

argh

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Nidhoegger:

sorry

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Nidhoegger:

i meant the -M switch -.-

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Nidhoegger:

if thats always quoted

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wagnerrp:

-M switch will always have quotes

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wagnerrp:

yes

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Nidhoegger:

okay *gg* thanks

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wagnerrp:

double quotes, because single quotes might otherwise be used as an apostrophe

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Nidhoegger:

yes

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Nidhoegger:

okay perfekt, thanks

[20:05:53]

Nidhoegger:

-lMNDv are all possivle params, right?

[20:05:57]

Nidhoegger:

or have i overread one

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lsolesen:

highzeth: It is digital. How can I scan a particular channel again?

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wagnerrp:

'-l' will always be given, '-M' '-N' and '-D' are required queries, anything else is optional

[20:07:21]

RDV_Linux:

MartinJT: The problem is that MythVideo and Jamu is still using the IMDB#s and not the TMDB#s use IMDB#. The TMDB entry may not have a IMDB# even though the movie is in TMDB.

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wagnerrp:

and '-N' is only necessary if youre grabbing TV episodes

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MartinJT:

ah.... tmdb is community driven right? so I could correct it??

[20:08:48]

wagnerrp:

MartinJT: thats why i asked you that ten minutes ago

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wagnerrp:

you said it did have an IMDB number

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RDV_Linux:

MartinJT: 0,22 is in transition from IMDB#s to TMDB# will will likely be enabled in 0.23

[20:09:49]

MartinJT:

it does... and a tmdb number...

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wagnerrp:

both on the TMDB site?

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MartinJT:

don't know that...

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wagnerrp:

thats what i was asking, i apologize if i were not clear

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MartinJT:

no worries...

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wagnerrp:

it would appear it does not

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wagnerrp:

meaning you have to add one before mythvideo in 0.22-fixes will use it

[20:12:12]

wagnerrp:

alternatively, you can switch to trunk

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RDV_Linux:

MartinJT: Rename the file to "Eddie Izzard Stripped.avi" and it will likely work

[20:12:45]

wagnerrp:

alternatively you can cycle all your inetrefs to tmdb ids using the script on http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6467

[20:13:07]

wagnerrp:

and then shift mythvideo to using tmdb.py, by adjusting the necessary database settings

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iamlindoro:

well that won't work

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wagnerrp:

RDV_Linux: i assume tmdb.py would work with 0.22?

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iamlindoro:

sicne .22 can't parse the output for mat of trunk's scripts

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iamlindoro:

no

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iamlindoro:

.22 uses -F, -B, -P, etc.

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wagnerrp:

ah... well then, just use #6467 wholesale

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wagnerrp:

i thought 0.22 used nothing, the flags were all defined in the individual settings fields

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iamlindoro:

they are-- but you still need discrete commands for those things

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iamlindoro:

wchi trunk doesn't have

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iamlindoro:

er which

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wagnerrp:

ok

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iamlindoro:

also prefaces the coverart/etc. with a label, which would prevent you just setting everything to -D

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wagnerrp:

yeah, forgot those got bumped into the single data query

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MartinJT:

i'm ok... i'm lost

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wagnerrp:

if you want to use that film with 0.22, you have two options

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wagnerrp:

you can add the necessary imdb number to the film

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wagnerrp:

and want the necessary amount of time for the cache to flush out

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wagnerrp:

at which point 0.22 will work

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wagnerrp:

or you can apply #6467, which may or may not still work

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MartinJT:

ok... I'll ponder and check out 6467

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MartinJT:

couple more questions while you're here...

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MartinJT:

I've got a problem doing a "Scan for Changes"

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MartinJT:

my setup is kinda weird (atleast i think it might be)

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MartinJT:

all my files are on a PC other than the Myth-Server and Frontend..

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MartinJT:

*video files

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wagnerrp:

are they on a machine that can run mythbackend?

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MartinJT:

I suppose...

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MartinJT:

but I don't think that's the issue...

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wagnerrp:

if they are on a machine running mythbackend, you create a Videos storage group with the path to the videos, and thats it, youre done

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wagnerrp:

otherwise, youre going to have to use NFS/samba to mount the folder on the remote frontends

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wagnerrp:

those are the only two options, nothing particularly complex

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MartinJT:

what happens is.... I mount the directories using nfs... in /var/lib/mythtv/videos under Movies/ and TV/

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MartinJT:

if I do a scan on the remote frontend inside say... TV/Heroes/Season 1/ the frontend crashes...

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wagnerrp:

if youre using NFS, the same folder must be mounted in the same exact place on all frontends

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MartinJT:

but it's ok from the root of myth

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MartinJT:

should have said that I'm using Storage Groups

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wagnerrp:

this folder is mounted on your backend as well? in the same exact place?

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MartinJT:

it's only mounted on the backend

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wagnerrp:

and you have removed the static paths in the mythvideo settings in mythfrontend?

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wagnerrp:

ok

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wagnerrp:

post both your backend and frontend logs, surrounding the time of the crash

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MartinJT:

all is working... other than the scan from within one of the directory

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MartinJT:

*directories

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MartinJT:

I'll make it crash and show you...

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wagnerrp:

scan from within one of the directories? what do you mean by that

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wagnerrp:

you just scan, the whole thing at once

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wagnerrp:

you dont select what to scan

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gbee:

<MartinJT> if I do a scan on the remote frontend inside say... TV/Heroes/Season 1/ the frontend crashes...wagnerrp:

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lsolesen:

highzeth: It is digital. How can I scan a particular channel again?

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gbee:

err, wagnerrp ^^

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gbee:

MartinJT: file a bug

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MartinJT:

no... but I access the scan for changes when I'm viewing one of the directories

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MartinJT:

kk... where do I do that?

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wagnerrp:

that *should* function exactly the same anywhere in mythvideo

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wagnerrp:

if its only crashing when in a specific folder, then yes, file a bug on trac

[20:42:31]

wagnerrp:

link to it is at the top of the main page on the wiki

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wagnerrp:

http://svn.mythtv.org

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haywire:

can mythvideo read vids from an ntfs partition mounted in the unix filesystem?

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wagnerrp:

haywire: if it is mounted, mythvideo can read it

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haywire:

thx

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MartinJT:

wagnerrp, thanks... weirdly... it's not putting an error in the frontend log now... previously there was some "qt index out of range" gubbins

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iamlindoro:

Don't file that bug, it would be a dupe

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MartinJT:

just seeing some changes to what was originally happening...

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MartinJT:

it doesn't seem to remember the directory it was in... and jumps to another after doing a scan....

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wagnerrp:

if anything, it would jump to the root

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iamlindoro:

How cow, Birittany Murphy dead... weird

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iamlindoro:

I bet drugs

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MartinJT:

wagnerrp, that's what I was expecting... as you don't know if that directory still exists etc..

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iamlindoro:

same bug, already filed

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: not much else that would cause cardiac arrest in a 32yr old

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wagnerrp:

other than some genetic condition

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MartinJT:

iamlindoro, don't suppose you know the bug number so I can add my 2 cents?

[20:54:40]

iamlindoro:

MartinJT, #7375, but please, no "me toos"

[20:54:59]

iamlindoro:

All needed information is already in the bug

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wagnerrp:

the only thing ive ever seen with her is sin city, and i dont remember her character

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wagnerrp:

wow... The Expendables has quite a cast of lead action heroes

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sircolin:

hi i have just upgraded mythtv on ubuntu-server install to 9.10, my remote (nova-t 500) no longer works, i still have the original is there anything i should be aware of ? or should i run through the steps for lirc as in the 9.0.4 install

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gbee:

I've probably seen her in about half a dozen films, but I watch too many films and I'd certainly not be proud to admit I watched half of them ...

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wagnerrp:

shes listed in a couple shows ive seen

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wagnerrp:

but again, nothing memorable

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iamlindoro:

Only one that immediately comes to mind is the one with Ashton Kutcher

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iamlindoro:

where they're on their honeymoon

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wagnerrp:

just married?

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iamlindoro:

yeah

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gbee:

I know the name/face, but probably only because there are remarkably few female actresses that get repeated roles in films so they tend to stick out

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[R]:

she was in 8 mile

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wagnerrp:

but not one of the leads, and ive not seen the movie anyway

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[R]:

i thought she was the main girl in it

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gbee:

and if anyone doubts that, consider how many films contain well known male actors starring alongside actresses you've never heard of and may never see again

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[R]:

speaking of not the lead... i was watching The Rock (for the first time) last night... and i was pissed off that nick cage wasn't listed #1

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MythbuntuGuest49:

can someone have a look at this and tell me what is wrong?? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721661

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gbee:

[R]: because Sean Connery was the real star of that film?

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wagnerrp:

you would put him over connery?

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wagnerrp:

cage may have had the lead role, but connery was the lead actor

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[R]:

gbee: wtf no

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[R]:

nick cage is THE MAN

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MythbuntuGuest49:

anyone???

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gbee:

standing behind Connery

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[R]:

and when i finished watching it i todl my friend "it was a good movie... but its no con air"

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** gbee quite likes the bombastic Hans Zimmer score to The Rock **

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wagnerrp:

the rock was enjoyable, conair was just awful

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[R]:

awful?

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[R]:

MythbuntuGuest49: is that the frontend or the backend

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gbee:

yeah, I'd probably rate Rock higher than Conair

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MythbuntuGuest49:

backend

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wagnerrp:

i cant get past that accent

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wagnerrp:

it was terrible

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MythbuntuGuest49:

i can see the pic using vlc but mythbuntu says plz wait then jumps back to main menu

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gbee:

Sean Connery, David Morse, Ed Harris ... what's not to like about The Rock?

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[R]:

like i said... it was ok

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[R]:

but i think it was a little too slow at the beginning

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wagnerrp:

and him going to jail in conair?

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wagnerrp:

i mean hes weaponless, beat to hell, with witnesses claiming he was being harasses in the bar

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wagnerrp:

the argument that self defense doesnt count because 'his body was a lethal weapon'

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gbee:

yeah, they set his character up to be a little to clean

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wagnerrp:

thats one of the most retarded things ive ever heard

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[R]:

the leadup was stupid

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gbee:

too

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[R]:

but ignoring that

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MythbuntuGuest49:

[R] : so what's the verdict ??? shoot it??

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[R]:

MythbuntuGuest49: dunno, you've got somethig cnofigured wrong

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MythbuntuGuest49:

well but what i cant figure it out for the life of me

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MythbuntuGuest49:

[R] : it does change channels corectly when i set a preset channel i can see it in vlc but mythtv craps out

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Michielb:

Hey, im looking into creating an htpc for my parents, they recently moved to the US, I havent purchased the PC yet, but im planning on buying the Intel DG45ID, with a Core 2 Quad processor, along with 4GB of ram(to start of with) and a 1TB harddisk. The main function would be to provide media to the house, aslong as Upnp support. I also want to set up an ftp server. My parents also plan on getting their service from Directv on th

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wagnerrp:

'to start off with'? a quad core and 4GB of ram is generally overkill for mythtv

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Michielb:

if not, what would be a better option

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wagnerrp:

quadcore is only useful if doing heavy transcoding, or playing bluray content

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Michielb:

wagnerrp: i need it for other backend thing i want to use the pc remotely

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Michielb:

and knowing my dad blu-ray is a nessesity

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wagnerrp:

the backend will generally run about 200MB, the frontend will run 150–500MB depending on loaded imagery

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wagnerrp:

beyond that, its all disk cache

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Michielb:

o and i will be maintaining the pc 16000km awat

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Michielb:

away*

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[R]:

ssh doesn't require 4gb

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wagnerrp:

if you want bluray playback, either a tri/quad core, or a machine with VDPAU is a necessity

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Michielb:

not mythtv backend( the pc will provide another function too so i do require that)

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wagnerrp:

you would probably have to overclock any dual-core you purchased to get sufficient power

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Michielb:

but as far as encoding the data from the upnp stream, from the dvr?

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wagnerrp:

mythtv cannot access any upnp content

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wagnerrp:

nor can it transcode content it serves out over upnp

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Michielb:

so i will have to run something like media tomb in the background?

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wagnerrp:

either you transcode your content to a format that your clients will play

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wagnerrp:

or you just buy tuners that will output recordings in a format that your clients will play

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wagnerrp:

any properly designed client (im looking at you microsoft) can manage to play back recordings from digital tuners and mpeg encoders

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Michielb:

so what in your opinion would be the the best option to set this thing up(nothing has been purchased)

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wagnerrp:

explain your requirements, and we can lay out some options

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wagnerrp:

first off, have you ever used mythtv?

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Michielb:

nope

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Michielb:

:(

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wagnerrp:

then read the executive overview on the wiki

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wagnerrp:

second off, are you familiar with linux?

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Michielb:

ive been using it as my primary operating system for about 6 months

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wagnerrp:

ill expand on that, are you familiar with linux, or did you just install ubuntu and call yourself l33t?

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wagnerrp:

there is a BIG difference between the two when trying to maintain something remotely from the command line

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Michielb:

im running ubuntu and do most tasks via the command line

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wagnerrp:

and if you havent gotten down and dirty with the internals of linux, you should probably reconsider

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Michielb:

and i am eager in learning more, and i have ALOT of linux l33t5 that are friends that help

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wagnerrp:

first off... read http://mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview

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Michielb:

so id say ive had a share of some of the dirty stuff in linux(not claiming that im a master) but i learn more and more each day

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Michielb:

ok ill take a quick look

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zkab:

how do I specify in .config that I want VDPAU do use my NVIDIA Geforce 9400

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wagnerrp:

zkab: mythtv uses no such file

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zkab:

how do you mean

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wagnerrp:

Michielb: second, you should take a good read through the install docs, and should install mythtv locally and be familiar with it before ever trying to maintain a remote install

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wagnerrp:

zkab: mythtv uses nothing from the folder ~/.config

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wagnerrp:

nor does it use a file named .config anywhere

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wagnerrp:

are you trying to build mythtv, and you mean 'configure'? do you have mythtv installed already and you are trying to make it use VDPAU?

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wagnerrp:

Michielb: explain a bit of what you want this machine to do

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wagnerrp:

as mentioned, if you want bluray playback, youre going to need a beefy processor, or that 'VDPAU' thing just mentioned

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wagnerrp:

its a form of hardware accelerated video decoding available on modern nvidia hardware

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zkab:

yes ... I am trying to compile from source svn-0.22 since I want to take advantage of VDPAU for my Geforce 9400

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wagnerrp:

zkab: in that case, configure *should* autodetect that the VDPAU header files exist, and enable it by default

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iamlindoro:

Michielb, Also be aware that you will be unable to do any playback (nor any worthwhile ripping) of bluray in linux

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wagnerrp:

Michielb: also, there is no form of bluray playback in linux

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iamlindoro:

Blu ray in linux generally means ripping the movies in windows, and dumping the raw video files somwehre myth can play them

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wagnerrp:

you have to rip the disks in windows using anydvdhd

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wagnerrp:

and then play the m2ts files directly in mythvideo

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ctmjr:

zkab: if it compiles right look in playback profiles on page 3/8 i believe and enable it there

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wagnerrp:

also, you mentioned you wanted to use directtv, that will require that you use an analog capture device and a set-top-box

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wagnerrp:

for standard definition content, the PVR150 and PVR500 cards are the recommended capture device

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zkab:

in my case it looks like: ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-proc-opt --disable-joystick-menu \

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zkab:

<zkab> --disable-firewire --disable-hdhomerun --disable-xvmcw \

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zkab:

<zkab> --enable-vdpau --disable-directfb --enable-opengl-vsync

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wagnerrp:

they are no longer available for purchase, and you have to pick them up off ebay

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wagnerrp:

for high definition content, the only option is the HDPVR

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wagnerrp:

in both cases, you will have to set up either a IR blaster, or possibly RS-232 control of the STB, in order to change channels and such

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[R]:

wagnerrp: is it possible to make myth not show the name of the input source at the top of the screen when i start livetv?

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wagnerrp:

[R]: no idea

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wagnerrp:

Michielb: mythtv is fairly complex in its own right, using analog capture and IR blasters is more so

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wagnerrp:

which is why you should be familiar with the software before trying to maintain it remotely

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zkab:

wagnerrp: when running my ./configure ... XvMC libs says "-lchromeXvMC

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wagnerrp:

zkab: thats fine, ignore it, your system doesnt support xvmc anyway

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wagnerrp:

somewhere in the output, it should say something like 'VDPAU .... enabled'

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wagnerrp:

the output of 'configure'

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wagnerrp:

if you get that line, all is good

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Michielb:

wagnerrp: im in the us at the moment, and will have about 30 days to get fimiliar with the ins and outs of the system, before i leave.

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knightrage:

hey guys. so i have a dvb qam-256 tuner and im just trying to get it to work. tvtime works fine, but mythtv doesnt get any channel locks when scanning. also, ive read that comcast users need to use this scte65scan tool, but when i use it i just get 'pid 0x1ffc timeout' error. any idea how i can manage a fix?

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wagnerrp:

knightrage: tvtime cannot use dvb cards

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wagnerrp:

its v4l framegrabbers only

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Essobi_:

damn... brittany murphy died

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wagnerrp:

comcast users do not *have* to use scte64scan

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wagnerrp:

it merely allows them to grab the in-band channel tables that the DTAs use

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wagnerrp:

and as such, only provides access to the standard definition channels that the DTAs use

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wagnerrp:

furthermore, now that they have their waiver to enable privacy mode on the DTAs, scte65scan is largely useless

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wagnerrp:

since you cannot capture any of the channels with a clearqam tuner any longer

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Michielb:

wagnerrp: are you fimiliar with the hr23?

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wagnerrp:

no idea what the hr23 is

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wagnerrp:

looks liek a directtv dvr unit

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Michielb:

yip

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wagnerrp:

if possible, its generally easier and cheaper to set mythtv to record through STBs rather than full DVRs

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Michielb:

ok so it will need to be able to handle HD content

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wagnerrp:

if you need to capture HD content off a set-top-box, you need an HDPVR

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wagnerrp:

its currently the only option available

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knightrage:

ok.. i see. well, what do i have to do to watch tv then? ive got my general -> broadcast frequency set to us-cable, dvb capture card set up, transmitted guide EIT video source. then when i link my dvb to video source and scan for channels using 'Cable' frequency table, nothing happens. is that because i can't capture any of the channels [like you just said?]

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wagnerrp:

anything else will generally be professional gear, very expensive, and not supported by mythtv anyway

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wagnerrp:

that would be a hauppauge HDPVR

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knightrage:

by 'nothing happens' i mean nothing locks

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zkab:

when I played with the ./configure command earlier I got XvMC libs -lXvMCNVIDIA – now I get XvMC libs says "-lchromeXvMC ... what is the difference

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wagnerrp:

zkab: different manufacturers, one is nvidia, one is via

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wagnerrp:

but it doesnt matter anyway, since youre not going to be using xvmc

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wagnerrp:

if its not causing you build errors, dont worry about it

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wagnerrp:

knightrage: you dont want to use EIT, its next to worthless in the states

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wagnerrp:

when you scan for channels, if done properly, you should be able to pick up whatever comcast has unencrypted

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wagnerrp:

which will generally only be your local broadcast channels

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Michielb:

does set-top-boxes work woth satelite inputs(sorry if my questions are uninformed) as ive mentioned im from south africa and the infrastucure is different and everything here is a bit overwhelming

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wagnerrp:

silicondust.com maintains list of digital cable lineups searchable by zip code

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knightrage:

well, what about those other channels like mtv or vh1?

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wagnerrp:

knightrage: theyre probably encrypted, you need a cable box and an analog capture card to record them

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zkab:

OK – but shouldn't I have XvMC libs -lXvMCNVIDIA as result of the command since I have NVIDIA GPU

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Casper82:

knightrage: depends on your area. I get them unencrypted.

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wagnerrp:

Michielb: when using directtv, you must use a STB in order to watch content

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wagnerrp:

be that a basic STB, or a DVR

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knightrage:

ok... so tvtime is using analog video, so thats why i can get all the channels there?

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wagnerrp:

assuming it has an analog output (composite, svideo, component), you can capture that output with mythtv

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wagnerrp:

knightrage: you likely have a hybrid tuner

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wagnerrp:

and tvtime is using the framegrabber side of it

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knightrage:

uhm, yeah it is

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wagnerrp:

you need to set mythtv up to use the digital side

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wagnerrp:

zkab: your card doesnt support xvmc, stop worrying about it

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wagnerrp:

knightrage: that would be a 'dvb' card using the dev node '/dev/dvb/adapter0'

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knightrage:

well if i have the option to get all analog channels or just ten or so digital channels (just looked on silicondust.com), i'd rather want to get the analog channels... can mythtv be set up to use those instead?

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wagnerrp:

yes, you can set up mythtv to use both 'cards'

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wagnerrp:

linux will see the two sides of a hybrid tuner as two separate tuner cards

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knightrage:

oh, ok

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wagnerrp:

at which point you have to tell mythtv that they are a single card, by putting them in the same recording group

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Michielb:

wagnerrp: thanks i will read up a bit then return with further questions

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wagnerrp:

of course this is all moot, because comcast starting to phase out analog channels all together

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zkab:

wagnerrp: OK – make gave me errors: mythpainter_vdpau.cpp: xxx

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wagnerrp:

zkab: cant help if you dont paste those errors somewhere

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wagnerrp:

that would be on a pastebin website, not in here

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knightrage:

ok wagnerrp, well thanks for your help. ive gotta run but i'll try some more fiddling around with it later.

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zkab:

where should I put the error file ... it is big

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wagnerrp:

'on a pastebin website'

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wagnerrp:

you dont need the whole thing

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wagnerrp:

just from a few dozen lines before the error, until the end of output

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zkab:

how do I put it on a pastebin website

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Nidhoegger:

?!

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Nidhoegger:

copy paste?

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wagnerrp:

most of them even have an option for uploading files

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Nidhoegger:

i use wgetpaste, more comfortable :D

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zkab:

i am using xchat right now ... how do get a pastebin website ... not so familiar with pastebin website

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wagnerrp:

you open a browser, and go to one

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Nidhoegger:

wtf? just go to pastebin.ca or something similar

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zkab:

OK ... which one should I go to

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wagnerrp:

you should see one listed in the topic line at the top of your current window

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Nidhoegger:

go to http://pastebin.ca

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zkab:

thanks ... I will study it for a while and then paste my error log

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zkab:

OK – post number 1721823 on http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/

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iamlindoro:

ust paste the link here...

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iamlindoro:

jeez, like pulling teeth

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iamlindoro:

They give you a link back when you post it for a reason

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wagnerrp:

you know, thats the third person ive seen do that this week

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zkab:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1721823

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iamlindoro:

You don't have VDPAU headers installed

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zkab:

And how do I do that

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iamlindoro:

You need the nvidia drivers installed to be able to compile with VDPAU

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iamlindoro:

and if you got them from some distro package and they have a seperate devel package, that too

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zkab:

I see – so following: nvidia-libvdpau1-driver,nvidia-libvdpau1, nvidia-libvdpau-dev has to be installed

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ctmjr:

zkab: go here http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us find your card then on the download page read the additional information on how to install it. the people in here are very helpful but they expect you to help yourself by doing some home work and research

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zkab:

thanks for the link ... but since I have install NVIDIA drivers in my system (http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers) and it worked I thought it was no problem with mythtv

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zkab:

now I installed nvidia-libvdpau-dev, nvidia-libvdpau1, nvidia-libvdpau1-driver and is seems that make is working

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sircolin:

anybody have a working nova t 500 remote in karmic ?

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antgel:

hmm. watching a recording from BBC HD with subtitles, but they're massive and mostly off the screen. did i miss something or is this a bug?

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AndyCap:

antgel: or you have the zoom level off?

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AndyCap:

w isn't it?

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antgel:

AndyCap: in playback, "adjust fill" is off. should it be "auto detect?"

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antgel:

basically i'm not sure what you're saying

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AndyCap:

antgel: just that you can change the zoom/aspect ratio by pressing w in the playback

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antgel:

i need to brush up on the difference between zoom and aspect ratio

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wagnerrp:

zoom means you scale linearly in all directions

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wagnerrp:

AR means you stretch in one direction

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wagnerrp:

you generally dont want to tinker with aspect ratio

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antgel:

ah. well i can report that zoom is off (as it should be) and change aspect ratio is off (also as it should be)

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antgel:

the broadcast looks great, it's just the subtitles that are way off

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wagnerrp:

the only time i ever use any of the zoom modes is for letterboxed analog content on a 16:9 format tv

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AndyCap:

bloody discovery europe

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AndyCap:

transmitting 16:9 letterbox

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wagnerrp:

they letterbox 16:9 content? (after pillarboxing it)

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AndyCap:

Well, I don't think they pillarbox it. just send it as 4:3 with letterboxed 16:9 inside. which really sucks.

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wagnerrp:

PAL or DVB?

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** AndyCap suspects its an evil ploy to push HD **

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AndyCap:

DVB

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wagnerrp:

then yes, they should be shot

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AndyCap:

Now, I don't know where they providers actually source this material, for all I know, they're using some analog feed.

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jblack:

The local channels do that here.

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AndyCap:

Sky News I think, was in glorious 16:9 on 28E, but in 4:3 chopped on 1W. :( Not to mention, costs money.

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jblack:

I noticed 'cause transcode doesn't catch it.

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antgel:

where glorious = garish to the point of being unwatchable

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