Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Saturday, December 5th, 2009, 00:00 UTC

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simcop2387:

blootube theme is great

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justinh:

no it isn't. It's DEAD baby

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justinh:

DEAD

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trumee:

borei, i have seen the same thing in 0.22

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dustybin:

mythcentre ftw

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trumee:

borei, never came across it in 0.21

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Led-Hed:

OMG, I'm having internet problems, I troubleshoot to make sure its not on my end. Call Cable Co. Talk to the tech. Tell him I did a traceroute, he asks "Whats a traceroute".

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simcop2387:

justinh: it might be dead but it looks the nicest according to my aging parents :)

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justinh:

Led-Hed: traceroute not on Mungo's script!

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dustybin:

who created mythcentre?

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justinh:

simcop2387: and actually only the menus & mythmusic are *really* themed. Everything else is default files

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justinh:

SAME WITH MYTHCENTER

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simcop2387:

they still like it better though

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justinh:

actually in mythcenter everything but the menus are default files

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dustybin:

mythcentre looks good on my crt

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dustybin:

720 x 576 res

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justinh:

dustybin: nobody asked you

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borei:

any fix in the 0.22 ?

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borei:

trumee: any configuration options to fix it in 0.22 ?

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** Led-Hed doesnt know who mungo is **

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wagnerrp:

borei: fix for what?

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wagnerrp:

oh, dvd stuff above

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borei:

yup

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wagnerrp:

theres some setting somewhere, video as time base

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wagnerrp:

flip it

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borei:

?

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trumee:

borei, dont know. i do a rewind for a sec and then it becomes ok

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simcop2387:

mythcenter's the theme thats in second place, i keep meaning to try playing around with making my own and see what happens

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justinh:

Led-Hed: mungo name of stoopid operator

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simcop2387:

(esp now that mythui is in use anyway)

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justinh:

mungo name of person who read script at call centre

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borei:

i pressed pause then play, and it solved

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Led-Hed:

lol

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Led-Hed:

its got to be a routing or dns issue.

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justinh:

transparent caching? ;-)

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Led-Hed:

if I can chat on IRC then the connection is fine

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Led-Hed:

no

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trumee:

wagnerrp, "video as time base" is disabled on my FE. should i enable it?

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Led-Hed:

proxy is off

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justinh:

trumee: NO

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justinh:

NOBODY should have 'video as timebase' enabled

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trumee:

borei, not a very good fix :(

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justinh:

it's being removed in 0.23

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simcop2387:

i do find it sad though that you got so many ungrateful people complaining justinh :(

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justinh:

(on account of it causing more problems than it solves)

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justinh:

simcop2387: it's too late for me to resurrect pooptoob

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simcop2387:

i know that

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borei:

yeah,

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skd5aner:

justinh: just curious, I know we've chatted a couple times about your old themes and your thoughts on why you don't support them anymore... but why do you hate on them so much?

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justinh:

skd5aner: because I didn't bank on them causing me so much ****ing anguish

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skd5aner:

I mean, yea – .22 themes can do 100x more, but for what they were when you created them a ton of people loved them

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justinh:

*I* loved them too

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dustybin:

i use the blutube osd, it kicks ass

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skd5aner:

justinh: yea, I know you took on a lot of headaches from users, but if nothing more than your contribution was used by thousands who loved them and never complained :)

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Dagmar:

Just add more nipples.

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Led-Hed:

2 is plenty

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justinh:

yeah but it's never the ones who have good news get in touch

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skd5aner:

anyway – like I've said before, I appreciated them – used project grayhem for like 3+ years

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simcop2387:

anyone know how well (if at all) mythfrontend supports svg for themes?

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skd5aner:

I just hate to see you bash your own work all the time

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justinh:

skd5aner: no

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justinh:

ermm simcop2387 no :)

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skd5aner:

haha, was gonna say "no" to what? :)

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simcop2387:

figured as much, it'd be nice to have though, wonder how hard it'd be to add...

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justinh:

simcop2387: wouldn't make any difference anyway. everything is loaded & scaled as bitmaps anyway

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justinh:

simcop2387: why? it's not hard to turn svg into png

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dustybin:

i like blootubes pause and fastward blue + green effect, lovely

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justinh:

and it's not like the vast majority of svg icons for linux are nice to look at :)

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simcop2387:

if you had it render them to the new size rather than scale them from a fixed size you could end up with nicer looking scaling without huge images

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justinh:

think you'll find qt isn't bad at scaling images

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justinh:

certainly better than it is at rendering svg

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justinh:

and fwiw anybody doing 32x32 icons for a HD theme wants shooting anyway :)

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justinh:

if they're not displayed at 32x32 that is

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Dagmar:

Those aren't icons--those are serifs

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justinh:

well anyway to end users it won't make a jot of difference having native svg support

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justinh:

nor will it mean less ram is used

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justinh:

nor will it necessarily be any faster

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justinh:

or look better

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justinh:

sooooooooo... sell it to me :)

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Dibblah:

Could mean less ram, if a tradeoff was made for draw speed.

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justinh:

depends if you want to totally rewrite how mythui uses images or not

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Dibblah:

And a rewrite of pretty much all of MythUI ;)

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justinh:

truth is I dunno if even qt 4.6 has the nuts to draw fast enough bitmaps the way myth uses them now let along vectors

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dan4dm:

so if i understand right, mythui currently has bitmap images which it lets qt scale on-the-fly? if so then yes it would be more efficient to scale them in advance, either from svgs or bitmaps

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justinh:

anyway. nice move. come in, ignite the blue touch paper, stand well back. well done

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justinh:

dan4dm: no it scales them in advance

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dan4dm:

ok

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justinh:

qt before ver 4 was WAY too slow

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justinh:

but it's really bad at scaling bitmaps fast *and* making a great job of it

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justinh:

try a bicubic rescale on a 1280x720 image & see how fast GIMP performs

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dan4dm:

so if qt provides cached image scaling then it'd be a bad move to re-implement in myth in order to support svg or whatever

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justinh:

dan4dm: myth does its own caching

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justinh:

be fairly easy to implement svg image *loading*

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dan4dm:

justinh: ah thanks

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justinh:

but hardly worth it for basically no benefit

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dan4dm:

i see i see i see

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dan4dm:

but the bitmaps would look rubbish when scaled up to 80000000 x 600000000 ;)

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justinh:

true, but rendering an SVG to that size might take a while

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justinh:

you decide where to draw the line

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justinh:

I mean *nice* looking SVGs are more than just a couple of shapes with gradients generally

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dan4dm:

yup. nite

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BjornR1989:

Just to let you know: I have no audio in MythTV. Outside of MythTV everything is fine.

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justinh:

fascinating

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BjornR1989:

If i launch MythTV from a terminal i should be able to see debug output, right?

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wagnerrp:

assuming you dont use the -d or -l options

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justinh:

if you launch mythfrontend from a terminal

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skd5aner:

and assuming if it's mythfrontend, a terminal within X

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skd5aner:

mythbackend – obviously you can do it outside of X

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justinh:

might help if you describe a bit about your setup too. such as what kind of tuner source you use.. etc

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justinh:

and whether or not your system is crippled by the PoS they call PulseAudio

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BjornR1989:

I'm trying to play MP3 files and video over the network. It plays all videos without audio and it doesn't seem to play MP3's at all, i've checked the docs and set the mixer settings the way they should be but it doesn't fix it.

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justinh:

y'know.. general info. helps people to help sometimes :)

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BjornR1989:

It's a 2GHz P4 system with

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BjornR1989:

768MB DDR RAM

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justinh:

does it display any warning about not being able to access the audio device when you start it up?

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justinh:

and what audio device is it set to use? Sometimes the default setting mythfrontend ships with isn't the one you want to use for your distro/setup

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justinh:

e.g. Alsa:Default

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justinh:

and er.. what audio codec do the silent videos have? It may even be that myth hasn't been compiled with support for them. I doubt that would be the reason mp3 playback doesn't work though

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justinh:

I made some DVD rips with AAC audio which mythfrontend couldn't play til I built it with AAC enabled

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BjornR1989:

hmm... I get lots of error messages in the terminal e.g. "MMUnix::AddDevice() Error: failed to stat /dev/trace" etc

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BjornR1989:

I'll check what codecs it must play.

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justinh:

pop the log output into a mythtv.pastebin.ca window

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justinh:

let somebody here see if there's anything relevant

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BjornR1989:

Codec: MP3 stereo 44100Hz 16bits/sample

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BjornR1989:

ok.

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justinh:

right so if anything that narrows it down to being audio *device* related

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justinh:

it's prolly just set to use a device which doesn't exist on your system

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justinh:

so into utils/setup > setup > general you must go. determine the correct audio device to use

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HypNoMadic:

Hello – Can I safely rename channel numbers from the 2_1 to 2.1 format by using the "Channel Info" tab and "channum" column in MythWeb?

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justinh:

HypNoMadic: depends on how your recording rules work

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HypNoMadic:

justinh: I don't think I have any special rules setup

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BjornR1989:

ALSA lib pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM analog

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BjornR1989:

2009-12–05 01:58:58.268 AudioOutput Error: snd_pcm_open(analog): No such file or directory

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BjornR1989:

2009-12–05 01:58:58.268 NVP(0): Disabling Audio, reason is: snd_pcm_open(analog): No such file or directory

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justinh:

BjornR1989: there you go. set to the wrong device, set it to the correct device to use & it'll work :)

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BjornR1989:

Ok, i'll try that. Thanks.

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justinh:

fyi said device may not be in the dropdown list

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justinh:

it doesn't *detect* audio devices

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BjornR1989:

YAY, it works !

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BjornR1989:

I changed Alsa:analog to Alsa:default.

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dustybin:

justinh: i remember you in this channel last xmas, and the xmas before that, and maybe the xmas before that :D

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plsander:

Hi — need some troubleshooting help — upgraded from knoppmyth r5f27 (mythtv .20 ) to mythtv .22 on Debian squeeze – this invoved a hardware switch too. Initially I had DB issues, it could not find my previously recorded shows, got that fixed but now it does not show any upcoming recordings.

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benklop_:

plsander: you sure the backend is actually running>

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benklop_:

plsander: my box had an issue like that,

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benklop_:

tail -f /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log provided a lot of help

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benklop_:

turned out I had a password issue

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plsander:

backend is up, shows in ps auxww – frontend can connect – shows previously recorded shows. When I try and add or edit a recording rule, it accepts the input, but fails to update the list.

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benklop_:

i'd run mythtv-setup for root, not for the mythtv user, so i had to copy and chown the myth settings from a hidden file in ~ to /var/lib/mythtv, which is the debian mythtv user's home dir

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plsander:

I could see the recording rules in mythweb and in the 'record' table.

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benklop_:

have you scanned for channels with your tuner?

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benklop_:

does mythtv actualyl know there is anything on? (listings data)

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benklop_:

i'm not a guru with this stuff, but those are the things that come to mind first

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plsander:

I'm trying the suggestions in "Scheduled Recordings gone" — there is listing data – it shows in the show listings

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plsander:

At least there was listing data – "scheduled recording gone" recommends trying deleting all input devices – I also deleted the input source so I am re-running mythfilldb...

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plsander:

Still no luck – I have schedule data, adding a recording (record 'Bones' at anytime any channel) adds a record to the 'record' table, but does not update status of the program — going back in to edit the program shows "do not record" instead of "record any time any channel"

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sphery:

plsander: most likely broken input connections – http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034

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plsander:

tried that...

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plsander:

just finished

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plsander:

and it did not fix the problem

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sphery:

then you made the same mistake while reconfiguring that you made the first time around

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sphery:

how are you getting channels?

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plsander:

Fetch from listings source

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sphery:

Schedules Direct?

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plsander:

yes – US

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sphery:

what capture type--firewire, analog SDTV, HD-PVR, digital?

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plsander:

Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350

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sphery:

using a cable STB or an OTA HDTV converter box?

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plsander:

cable box

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sphery:

hmmm... that's usually a rather simple configuration, so if you really just did fetch channels from listings source, it should have worked

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sphery:

you never scanned for channels, right?

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plsander:

right. scan does not make sense since the cable box only presents 1 channel on RF, and I'm using the s-video connection anyway.

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sphery:

can you run and pastebin: mythbackend --printsched 2>&1 | tee schedule.txt

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sphery:

the output will be in schedule.txt

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plsander:

as root or mythtv?

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sphery:

mythtv should be fine

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.221 Using runtime prefix = /usr

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.222 Empty LocalHostName.

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.222 Using localhost value of myth01

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.231 New DB connection, total: 1

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.238 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.239 Closing DB connection named 'DBManager0'

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.239 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.241 New DB connection, total: 2

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.241 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.244 Current Schema Version: 1214

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.247 New DB DataDirect connection

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.247 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: localhost

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.255 Connecting to backend server: 192.168.50.180:6543 (try 1 of 5)

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plsander:

2009-12–04 20:25:32.255 Connection timed out.

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iamlindoro:

sigh

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Brad-D2:

plsander you probably want to pasatebin stuff like that

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sphery:

guess he didn't understand "pastebin"

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clever:

Brad-D2: he isnt on anymore

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sphery:

he got flood-kicked

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Brad-D2:

ahhhhh, i guess karma kicked in ;)

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sphery:

seems he may have some connection problems

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sphery:

(and he's running 0.21-fixes)

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plsander:

wierd — That was with mythbackend down ( I took it down to look in mythtv-setup)

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plsander:

now that the backend is back up and running, the schedule list is empty

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sphery:

plsander: by "pastebin" I meant http://www.pastebin.ca/

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sphery:

schedule list is empty means what?

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plsander:

the earlier paste was without mythbackend up and running – this run is with the backend running

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sphery:

plsander: again: http://www.pastebin.ca/

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plsander:

ah – sorry

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sphery:

you're getting kicked because of flooding the channel with pastes

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sphery:

nothing of interest has come through

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sphery:

(just the top bit of the first paste)

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plsander:

ok

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plsander:

http://pastebin.ca/1702636

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plsander:

nifty tool...

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sphery:

so there's really nothing scheduled to record

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sphery:

and when you did the Delete all video sources, you used "Delete all video sources" (not just D on each one)?

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plsander:

yes – delete all

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sphery:

and did you also do Delete all capture cards (and not Delete all capture cards on <hostname>)?

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plsander:

yep – delete all — not all on host

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sphery:

and then you created capture cards, then created one video source (filling in your username/password and selecting a lineup), and then went to Input Connections and connected that one video source to the S-Video input of your PVR-350 card?

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sphery:

and then Fetch channels from listings source

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plsander:

yes

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sphery:

that should have worked.

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sphery:

any particular reason why you're using 0.21-fixes for a new setup (instead of 0.22-fixes)?

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plsander:

that appears to be the latest available for debian squeeze (0.21.svn20080706–0.0)

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plsander:

I thought it was .22 but I was wrong

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sphery:

ah... not really sure what debian squeeze is, but if it's the most current you can get...

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sphery:

I don't know what might be misconfigured in there.

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plsander:

It is the current stable debian

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sphery:

is this a MythTV only box?

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plsander:

yes

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sphery:

if so, have you considered using a more Myth-appropriate distro? (Like MythBuntu--which is basically what you end up with when you take Debian, throw away all the principles on which it's built, add in the license-/patent-questionable stuff you have to add to make Myth work, and then put Myth on it)

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benklop_:

why is mythfm still in th library menu? is hasn't been current for a LONG time as far as I know

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sphery:

no one's really touched the menus for some time--they'll likely get reworked with the UI theme/OSD theme rework

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benklop_:

plsander: you need to add the debian-multimedia repo which involves adding sid to some degree

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benklop_:

sphery: ok, fair enough. just wondered if it was actually out there for .22 somewhere I was unaware of :)

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plsander:

I'm running sid on my desktop system, thought I was safer sticking with stable on the mythbox – I'll check on mythbuntu

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sphery:

benklop_: don't think so--many ask, none seem interested enough to do

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sphery:

plsander: MythBuntu should be a lot easier to set up--might take less time than it takes to download the ISO :)

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sphery:

plsander: I recommend /not/ carrying your database over

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benklop_:

sphery: i don't even have a card capable of FM any more

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benklop_:

sphery: unless my old analog tuner still exists somewhere, and it might...

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sphery:

9.10 has MythTV 0.22. Installing and figuring out 0.21-fixes is probably not worth it at this point.

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plsander:

sphery: I have a large viewed history built up, is there a way to keep that?

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sphery:

benklop_: yeah, here in the US, FM is garbage, so I have no interest.

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benklop_:

pretty much.

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benklop_:

esp. since al lthe stations I care about havve streams online

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wagnerrp:

garbage, as in you dont like what they play?

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wagnerrp:

or the quality?

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sphery:

garbage as in 5 minutes of music and 55 minutes of ads

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benklop_:

either or. the quality of what they play too

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benklop_:

sphery: we have a pretty good public jazz sation here, but they have a web stream

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sphery:

yeah, I listen to 'net radio pretty much exclusively, anymore--except in the car (and, fortunately, I spend /very/ little time in the car)

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wagnerrp:

i cant say ive ever listened to the radio outside the car (other than my alarm clock)

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deus____:

There shouldnt be any problems setting up a backend that could be connected both locally and externally should it?

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wagnerrp:

locally and externally?

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deus____:

running a frontend on both the same box as the backend and on another box on the network

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wagnerrp:

mythtv is designed to be network transparent

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wagnerrp:

if the backend address is routable, mythtv can work

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KirkB:

Hi all – looking for help with MythVideo – is anyone able to offer suggestions?

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wagnerrp:

we cant offer suggestions

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wagnerrp:

youve not presented a problem

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KirkB:

specifically I know I can set up other videos to play after a video starts. However I have hundreds of videos and would like to know if there is a quicker, easier way to do this. I'm willing to look at mysql commands in scripts if need be.

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KirkB:

sorry, was busy typing the problem

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wagnerrp:

you have hundreds of videos that you want to play one right after the other?

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KirkB:

I'd rather not go through the GUI to set it manually for each video

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KirkB:

yes

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KirkB:

home videos

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KirkB:

not movies

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KirkB:

but videos nonethless

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wagnerrp:

yeah, generally the 'childvideo' or whatever it is in the database is intended for 2–3 part files

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wagnerrp:

there is a 'play all in folder' option

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KirkB:

oh? Haven't seen that

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wagnerrp:

but im not certain in what order it will do it in

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wagnerrp:

at least the dev was working on one, i havent checked to see if it made it into 0.22

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KirkB:

I'm running mythbuntu weekly builds

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KirkB:

I'll have to check, don't remember seeing that option

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iamlindoro:

Yes, made it into .22

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iamlindoro:

I'd say it was ugly, but it's no uglier than trying to string a bunch of files together in metadata

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iamlindoro:

since both are equally unkillable

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wagnerrp:

heh, the 'help, im playing and i cant get out' thing?

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iamlindoro:

yup :)

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wagnerrp:

i figured you would have disabled that rather than let it get released

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wagnerrp:

a bit surprised it hasnt lead to some amusing ML posts

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iamlindoro:

users too busy accidentally deleting files

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KirkB:

ah, found it – and yes, help, how do I stop playing video :)

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KirkB:

is there a way, or just esc out until the folder is finished?

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wagnerrp:

the latter

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iamlindoro:

the larger button on the front of the case will work

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wagnerrp:

you can also program a button using irexec to terminate the frontend

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KirkB:

hmm, kill the launch it again

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KirkB:

ok, this is a start – thanks for the help

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wagnerrp:

ive got X and mythfrontend automatically starting through the terminal

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wagnerrp:

if it terminates for any reason, linux automatically restarts it

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wagnerrp:

takes maybe five seconds

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Brad-D2:

wagnerrp: can you elaborate on how you do that? I currently use the button approach with irexec

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wagnerrp:

in inittab, you will have several local terminals, c1-cn

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wagnerrp:

they should all be running /sbin/agetty

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wagnerrp:

add one that runs the command '/sbin/mingetty --autologin mythtv tty<n>'

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wagnerrp:

<n> being the same one listed under 'c<n>'

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Brad-D2:

hmm all i see in my inittab is this: id:5:initdefault:

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wagnerrp:

http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1702731

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Brad-D2:

oh wait i think i see.. fedora put them somewhere else.. trying to be special as always

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Brad-D2:

thanks wagnerr, i will give that a shot when i get home

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[R]:

i'm using vdpau and hdpvr and all my colors look washed out

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[R]:

i know i remmeger reading about some kind of magical setting

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[R]:

but i can't seem to fidn it

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wagnerrp:

something about the vdpau colorkey, issues with screensavers

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wagnerrp:

but the built in vdpau profiles were supposed to take care of that

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[R]:

well it doesnt' seem to be

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[R]:

how do i set the colorkey?

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[R]:

wagnerrp: its only the hdpvr stuff... i'm watching somethign thats not from it and they look fine

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wagnerrp:

has river tam ever played a normal character?

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[R]:

whos that?

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wagnerrp:

http://xkcd.com/311

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[R]:

whos river tam?

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wagnerrp:

do i have to do it?

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wagnerrp:

yeah...

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wagnerrp:

http://lmgtfy.com?q=river+tam

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iamlindoro:

lmgtfy?

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iamlindoro:

yessssss

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[R]:

am i missing a font

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[R]:

i'm using terra and the time in my guide in the upper right corner is like tiny

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wagnerrp:

so is dollhouse just switching to 2-hr episodes now?

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wagnerrp:

this week AND next week

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iamlindoro:

yes, they're burning them off

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iamlindoro:

3 x two-fers, then three singles in january

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[R]:

i had this sweet page bookmarked once... that explained how to rebuild mythtv on ubuntu

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[R]:

does anyone know what i'm talking about

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[R]:

wow i feel stupid

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[R]:

one of my component cables wans't plugged in all the way

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mcastles:

has anyone managed to get mythfrontend .23 compiled and running on osx?

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iamlindoro:

You should ask in march when it comes out

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mcastles:

yeah, I thought that might be the answer

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[R]:

rofl

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iamlindoro:

Anyway, if you're trying to compile trunk on 10.6, there are all sorts of funky issues onder 10.6

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iamlindoro:

10.5 worked okay last I checked

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wagnerrp:

people on the ML just dont understand that DRM is not to prevent piracy

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mcastles:

yeah, thats what I've found

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mcastles:

oh well.. I guess I will have to be patient.. at least its not like waiting for .22

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[R]:

wagnerrp: but thats what they claim

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wagnerrp:

if thats what it were for, they would have given up on it long ago

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wagnerrp:

since its obviously not preventing anything

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[R]:

haha

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[R]:

wagnerrp: so i fixed the colors

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wagnerrp:

now you have to question why it only affected things when you were running vdpau

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[R]:

wagnerrp: it was only on the hdpvr actually

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[R]:

wagnerrp: my component video cable was loose

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wagnerrp:

oh, input to the hdpvr, not output to the tv

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wagnerrp:

so you have a bunch of trashed recordings

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wagnerrp:

fun!

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[R]:

well i just set it up

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[R]:

so i have no recordings yet

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[R]:

so i'm at 53C

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wagnerrp:

CPU or GPU?

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[R]:

i have an exhaust fan that is very noisy... i should unplug it and see how the temps go up

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[R]:

cpu

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wagnerrp:

thats a bit high, i recommend you never hit 60

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wagnerrp:

at 60, youre probably going to start hitting stability limits

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[R]:

hrm

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[R]:

ffs i need to goto bed soon

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[R]:

my dad is gonna be here at 7

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[R]:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6602

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wagnerrp:

6602, thats an old one

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[R]:

wagnerrp: is that a patch that effects the frontend or the backend... the description says its the frontend but the names of the stuff it changes sounds like its the backend

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wagnerrp:

frontend only

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[R]:

hrm... oh well

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wagnerrp:

it fixes a problem where the decoder starts displaying to screen before there is a full frame available

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wagnerrp:

you get a bunch of odd colored garbage

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[R]:

well if i ever see that... i'll know why

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wagnerrp:

basically, the only thing you can really make out is the edge

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wagnerrp:

since that is data generally included in every frame

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[R]:

ah ffs... my stupid dvr auto shuts down at 1

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[R]:

i need to tell it not to do that

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[R]:

atcually i need ot get a regular cable box

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wagnerrp:

if youre using VDPAU, that patch will probably do nothing

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wagnerrp:

i imagine it has its own routines to shunt output until it gets an I frame

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[R]:

ah, ok

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[R]:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6611

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[R]:

i want to apply that one cuz i used to use it and its nice

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[R]:

but it looks like 6719 fails now

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justinh:

heheh http://bit.ly/4oKOaP

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wagnerrp:

i saw that

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wagnerrp:

ridiculous

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galorin:

I'm looking to build a new MythTV box. Is the NVIDIA ION stuff supported and easy to set up

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Golffies:

Hi guys,

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Golffies:

just installed mythbuntu 9.10, and trying to figure out how to configure my remote control;

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Makere:

google bout configuring lirc

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laga:

use MCC and pray it works

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Golffies:

Sorry, I am feeding our new born baby at the same time as I type over IRC, I had to pause. In fact, my question is more specific. Please, give me a sec. :-)

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Golffies:

I plugged a homemade receiver on serial port; that hardware works, I already tested it under another distro.

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Golffies:

It seems to me that mythbuntu-control-center does not give choice to select "homebrew serial remote"

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Golffies:

Then, I have to go the regular way (create lircd.cong file with irrecord, and so on)

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laga:

then select "manual" and configure it manually,i suppose

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laga:

unless there is a config for your remote

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laga:

but even they can be different across different receivers (AFAIK!)

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Golffies:

OK, great, I did not notice there was a "manual' entry in the menu provided by mythbuntu-control-center. I am going back to that.

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Golffies:

"Manual" only install lirc packages, and that's all ?

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laga:

the lirc packages should be installed

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laga:

btw, there is a mythbuntu manual. it might have some information on that

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Golffies:

sorry to come back to that : how do I select "manual" within mythbuntu-control-center ? I do not see such a choice.

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laga:

oh, then it's probably not in there. check the manual :) i don't remember how i did it

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Golffies:

would you like to point me to the right url ? Places like http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:HOWTO or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV did not help me. Thanks.

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miha:

hello how can i set up tv channels in mythtv? i have them in tvtime?

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miha:

ammm

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Golffies:

Hello,

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Golffies:

you mean : how to scan available channels ?

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Golffies:

How to build a channels.conf file ?

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miha:

Golffies i wonder the same

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miha:

or how to write channels myself. tvtime-scanner does its job

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sphery:

miha: Use the mythtv-setup channel scanner for digital channels. If you have analog, ideally get the channels from your listings source (but if you're not in North America, that may not work). http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034

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Golffies:

Well, I can give you a hand on that. Please, give me a sec to find back the documentation I read about it. Basically, I easily produced a channel.conf file, thanks to 'scan' software. I guess that piece of software is installed by default in Mythbuntu. Do you want to scan DVB-S /T or /C channels ?

[15:41:51]

miha:

sphery well how to click on that button?

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miha:

my mouse dont seem to work

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miha:

and no touch screen? :D

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** miha wonders how to use tvtime channel settings for mencoder :D **

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miha:

tvtime-scanner just did its job

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miha:

why cant mythtv do that :D

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laga:

because you didn't send a patch ;)

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miha:

i've seen someone wrote about mouse patch. he said he submited it?

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miha:

hehe

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Golffies:

As often, it's hard to find a definitive tutorial or how-to. The following web page was helpful for me : http://www.techwatch.co.uk/forums/17653-mytht . . . ls-conf.html

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laga:

good thing they added the information to the wiki ;)

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miha:

Golffies basicly it's analog cable and cheap tv tunner. tvtime-scanner found channels just fine. could i somehow copy that info directly into config?

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Golffies:

OK, I lead you in the wrong direction.

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miha:

i can parse tvtime xml config just fine

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miha:

what about mythtv?

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miha:

i just wonder how to clicky click tv recording.. mencoder has so many switchez :D

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Golffies:

I understand more or less channels.conf content, as they are used to store digital channels. I don't know how MythTV stores analog channels. Sorry.

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miha:

oh ok

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miha:

would you happen to know mencoder and /dev/video and /dev/dsp2 ?

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miha:

:D

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sphery:

miha: MythTV's UI is designed for remote and keyboard navigation, not mouse

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sphery:

so highlight the button and hit enter/space

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miha:

cant highlight

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miha:

it goes up and down

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miha:

but never on scanner :D

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miha:

just on textfield

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sphery:

if the button is truly disabled, you have an unscannable capture device

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miha:

:D

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sphery:

if you're saying you don't know how to move the cursor, it's a combination of left/right/up/down/tab

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sphery:

s/cursor/focus/

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_abbenormal:

hey guys can mythtv play blu-ray movies

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Saviq:

_abbenormal: if you rip 'em

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Saviq:

AFAIK nothing on Linux allows straight from BR playback

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Saviq:

mplayer guys reported some success, but I've no idea how much

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_abbenormal:

ok did think so yet hope one day it will happen

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_abbenormal:

didnt

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Saviq:

and if it's even included in the main branch

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Saviq:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1327197

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Saviq:

guys, any idea why DVB-S HD/MPEG4 stream would stutter with VDPAU? mplayer plays all 1080p content quite fine :/

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Saviq:

have yet to test if this particular stream plays better / worse in mplayer

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Makere:

you sure you using the vdpau?

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Makere:

what vdpau profile you using?

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Saviq:

Makere: yeah, CPU is at 10%

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Saviq:

Makere: HQ

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Makere:

try setting lower profile?

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Makere:

what graphics cards you got?

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Saviq:

GeForce 8400GS with 512MB ram (the G98 core)

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Makere:

I think 8400GS can't handle the HQ profile

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Makere:

try normal and slim

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Saviq:

will do, thanks

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oobe:

"mythfrontend -v playback" will tell you exactly if you are using vdpau and more

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Saviq:

will do, have to wait for a recording to finish, though

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oobe:

no u dont

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Saviq:

yes I do ;) I only have one tuner and the HD stream is on a different multiplex

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Saviq:

I have yet to fight my SkyStar S2 card to get it working to gain access to more HD channels

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Saviq:

Makere, oobe: thanks, setting VDPAU Normal helped

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Makere:

np

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oobe:

ok that wasnt me who suggested that

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Makere:

if you get more problems playing, try the slim profile

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trumee:

anybody has a mceusb2 remote?

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trumee:

i have lost the ir emitter cable that came with it. Wanted to know what type to buy from ebay. Do they need to have mono or a stereo jack.

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wagnerrp:

looks like mono

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wagnerrp:

if youve got a link, i can compare to the one in my hand

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trumee:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Infrared-Visible-Single . . . em518e178190

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wagnerrp:

looks roughly like the ones i have

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wagnerrp:

but $15?

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wagnerrp:

you can buy a whole new unit for ~$20

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trumee:

this is the one i bought, although it was in black. http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sna/productd . . . sku=A1225095

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trumee:

i need two ir emitter cables. hauppauge only supplies one.

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mattwynne:

I've had some weird behaviour with my new box

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mattwynne:

I have recordings but it says 'the file for Family Guy (or whatever) cannot be found'

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mattwynne:

when I try to open them

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mattwynne:

it seems like the backend had crashed – I could not watch TV either. I tried restarting the backend but it didn't seem to work – in the end rebooting fixed it.

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mattwynne:

just wondering how I can do a post mortem – what to look for in the logs

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mattwynne:

any thoughts?

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trumee:

wagnerrp, is it possible to buy one of these and cable them? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/5mm-Infra-Red-Emitter-D . . . em1bf806d2f7

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trumee:

wagnerrp, is it possible for you take a photo of your and post is somewhere?

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trumee:

wagnerrp, i can then ask the vendor if it matches it. sorry for the trouble :)

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dan4dm:

mattwynne: I have the same sort of troubles as you. not sure why but sometimes need to reboot before any tv can come in

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mattwynne:

I wouldn't mind about live TV but it seems to crash and fail to record programmes

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mattwynne:

although it's maybe writing a record to the database as the recording appears in the menus

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mattwynne:

this has happened twice since I built the machine not much more than a week ago

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mattwynne:

I am reading /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log now to see if I can figure out what happened

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dan4dm:

mattwynne: well since myth treats live and recording as pretty much the same thing, you'll tend to get both fail if any

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dan4dm:

if you find anything out that'd be great...

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mag0o:

silly question – which would get better resolution from an hd satellite stb? coax or rca

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iamlindoro:

mag0o, both suck, but composite (RCA) is better

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iamlindoro:

S-Video better still, component betterer still, and then the digitals on the top

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mag0o:

so, i need to find me an hdhr on the low down

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** mag0o is cheap **

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iamlindoro:

Hd-PVR you mean?

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mag0o:

yeah, that

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mag0o:

the new big tv is in a temp location, so the pic is crap b/c im recording to myth via composite

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mag0o:

once the wife finds an entertainment center, i get to move it into the living room, and connect via composite/hdmi/whateverhdcabletypeibuy

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mag0o:

...if only we didn't send the kids to private school...

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pyther:

Hello

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pyther:

Is it possible to start myth frontend in 4/3 mode with a switch?

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sphery:

-geometry

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pyther:

sphery, yeah I found that but is it possible to set the aspect ratio?

[19:05:40]

pyther:

My one monitor is 16:9 where the other one is 4/3

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sphery:

you configure the aspect ratio in X

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pyther:

there is a setting in the appearance area for 16/9 and 4/3

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sphery:

If you have a multihead system, you have a million other issues to work around (and how you do so it very dependent on your config--and I don't know how to make it work, because I've never seen value in a multi-head Myth box)

[19:08:01]

pyther:

sphery, mythfrontend opens on the active screen, so it never opens on screen both 1 + 2, it only open on 1

[19:08:27]

pyther:

I think I want --override-setting

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sphery:

You can try -O XineramaMonitorAspectRatio=1.3333 , but if it doesn't work, that's because what you're doing isn't supported (and you really need to modify all the proper settings--i.e. just have 2 Myth configs and start the right one)

[19:08:47]

pyther:

ok how do I do that

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pyther:

that is really what I want

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pyther:

one config set to 16:9 and the other with 4:3

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sphery:

separate $HOME/.mythtv and separate mysql.txt/config.xml LocalHostName override

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sphery:

so that the 4:3 one uses one "hostname" and the 16:9 one uses another

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pyther:

eww that is dirty :P

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sphery:

why dirty?

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Dibblah:

You don't need the config.xml – mysql.txt is sufficient.

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sphery:

yeah, either works

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sphery:

the whole config.xml/mysql.txt thing is a broken mess, so it doesn't matter which

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pyther:

couldn't I just override the specific setting?

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Dibblah:

ISTR looking at this and it's not supported in config.xml

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sphery:

why?

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Dibblah:

pyther: No.

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sphery:

why not just have 2 configs that work properly without temporary overrides?

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Dibblah:

-O x=x doesn't affect this setting.

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sphery:

you're not changing the actual hostname

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pyther:

Dibblah, why not isn't that what --override-setting is for?

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sphery:

you're simply using a different unique identifier for settings

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pyther:

what how do I do this is there a guide?

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sphery:

--override-setting is an emergency override

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Dibblah:

The hostname isn't a setting.

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sphery:

not meant for normal use

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Dibblah:

pyther: $MYTHCONFDIR Set the config dir (instead of ~/.mythtv)

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sphery:

why not just set the HOME

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Dibblah:

Or run as two separated users.

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sphery:

HOME does /not/ have to be the same directory in all environments for the same user

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pyther:

Dibblah, ok do I need to change hostnames?

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sphery:

the /only/ benefit of the MYTHCONFDIR is to allow use of a config directory that doesn't have a .mythtv subdirectory

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Dibblah:

pyther: No.

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pyther:

so cp -r .mythtv/ .mythtv43

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Dagmar:

erm... actually while you can change the value of HOME you can only have one HOME

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sphery:

pyther: you /do/ need to change the LocalHostName override to get a unique identifier

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sphery:

Dagmar: uh, yeah

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pyther:

MYTHCONFDIR=/home/pyther/.myth43

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pyther:

like that?

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sphery:

but why do you think HOME has to point to /home/pyther

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sphery:

it can point anywhere

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pyther:

yeah, but I want to keep the config in my homedir

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sphery:

i.e. export HOME=/home/pyther/square ; mythfrontend

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sphery:

and then in square, have a .mythtv dir

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Dibblah:

<LocalHostName>host2</LocalHostName> in the XML, LocalHostName=host2 in the mysql.txt

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sphery:

which is /not/ changing the hostname

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sphery:

as I said before

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Dibblah:

Uhm... I know that.

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sphery:

I'm talking to pyther

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sphery:

12.05 14:14:22 < pyther> Dibblah, ok do I need to change hostnames?

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pyther:

Dibblah, do I add this <LocalHostName>tux2</LocalHostName> in config.xml

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Dibblah:

I don't actually think that does anything, but I could be misremembering.

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Dibblah:

... The mysql.txt one fairly definitely works.

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pyther:

ok so if I have it in mysql I should be good?

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pyther:

That works, thanks

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Dagmar:

Freaking MediaCoder has seriously gone downhill

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antgel:

*sigh*

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antgel:

we have "Attempting to change from None to None" ad infinitum on one of my frontends

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antgel:

here's a frontend log http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1703389

[20:04:14]

antgel:

all looks okay until 19:21. does anyone have a clue what happened?

[20:04:44]

skd5aner:

I'm getting a segfault when I start playback of a recording, what's the best way to slice down the first 10MB of the recordings so that I can include it on a bugreport?

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antgel:

for my part, i left it on, came back into the room and the screen was blank and the frontend isn't responding to any button presses

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skd5aner:

also – where's the best place to house a 10MB sample, I know that's too big for trac

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mag0o:

skd5aner: filebin.ca ?

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mag0o:

(haven't used it, so can't vouch for it)

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tedeems:

Problem with slave backend. Will not stay connected to database and resources do not show up in frontend. part of mythbackend.log master: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1703392 slave: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1703393 help?

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skd5aner:

mag0o: thx, I'll check it out (haven't used it yet)

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trumee:

i cant seem to get IR1 port of my mceusb2 irblaster to work. The second port IR2 works fine. anybody using mceusb2?

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rstory:

any using a MyHD md-120 card, or have a link to a howto?

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antgel:

rstory: you need to post a proper question, but be warned it seems a bit quite here tonight

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rstory:

i'm not sure what you mean 'a proper question', but i can provide more information.. i ahve a md-120 card installed, and it shows up in 'lspci'.. but when

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rstory:

i run myth-setup to create a new capture device, i don't see any cart types that match myhd / md-120 / teralogic tl880..

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rstory:

so i figure maybe i'm missing a driver, but google isn't turning up much information on people using this card...

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Brad-D:

man i am getting so sick of companies putting stupid arbitrary limits on things

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Brad-D:

i signed up for XM Radio online premium for higher bitrates

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Brad-D:

and when i try to log in, it informs me that it only works with windows or mac. because god forbid linux gets 128kbs instead of 32

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Brad-D:

stupid facists

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Wicked:

use user agent changer

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Wicked:

theres a ff addon

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Wicked:

:)

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Wicked:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59

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Brad-D:

ahh nice, thanks wicked

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Brad-D:

i will check it out :)

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Wicked:

np

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Wicked:

theres also a useragent.xml file floating around on the internet with virtually every single version of ever browser.

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Wicked:

but the default install should have all the major browsers

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antgel:

rstory: i don't know anything about the said card, but is the relevant kernel module inserted, and have relevant nodes been created in /dev?

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antgel:

rstory: by the way, what you asked in the end was at least something worth replying to :)

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Brad-D:

well that user agent did get by it

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Brad-D:

but apparently the site needs Flash with ActiveX and windows media player

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Brad-D:

this will be a hassle to work out

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Brad-D:

yet another company dissuading me from giving them money

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Brad-D:

haha

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Dagmar:

okay. This is fun

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Brad-D:

whatcha doing dagmar?

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Dagmar:

I'm going to have to look at my firmware for the PVR-500

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Wicked:

that sucks Brad-D. i used to listen to sirius radio in linux....never did get the "upgraded" streaming..just the standard low quality....so maby they are more protective of the higher quality streams

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Dagmar:

MythTV can always play it's own recordings back fine, which is all well and dandy but...

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Dagmar:

VLC, MPlayer, have problems playing back the mpg recording from the share

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Brad-D:

wicked: yeah probably.. but hopefully i can get around it. I wrote a plugin for myth to play the streamed music, and i would like to get the highest quality i can :)

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Dagmar:

ONE pass through the lossless transcoder appears to clean them up

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Wicked:

right on

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Dagmar:

...once that's done practically everything can play 'em

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Dagmar:

So I'm forced to assume that while my firmware works, it's possibly creating somewhat cooked files

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antgel:

ah. re my frontend hang ^^ (http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1703389), i've just noticed mythcommflag is taking up 75% cpu and 60% memory. should i kill that and see if the frontend comes back. and more importantly, is it meant to use so much memory? (1.5GB RAM on this box)

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Dagmar:

That shoudln't make it hang

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Dagmar:

Check to see what the backend is doing

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antgel:

Dagmar: okay. it's been like this since 19:21

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antgel:

backend log is *full* of number of reference frames exceeds max (probably corrupt input), discarding one – hope that's not a big issue

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antgel:

and at that time...

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Dagmar:

like, the logs that you _pasted_ indicated that the frontend has stopped recieving data

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dan4dm:

do people use MythTube? is it nice?

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Dagmar:

So... it looks like the real problem is that your backend has tanked

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antgel:

crap

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Dagmar:

Commflagger can't do much if it can't get frames afaik

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antgel:

but the frontend log went dodgy at 19:21. backend not gone dodgy until 20:20. will post backend log

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antgel:

Dagmar: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1703479

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Brad-D:

BINGO, i think i can still make it work. That's right syrius you haven't beat me yet, chumps

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antgel:

Dagmar: also, the backend log is looking normal at this time, frontend still scrolling "TV: Attempting to change from None to None"

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HypNoMadic:

Hello – There is a show that every week causes some weird audio/video skipping issues, would it be helpful to upload it somewhere and can I somehow only upload part of the 4.7 GB recording?

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Wicked:

anyone here use freemote? im trying to compile it but its failing to compile.... http://pastebin.com/m6f96a3d8

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HypNoMadic:

Wicked: I don't use freemote, but if you want to try an alternative, this is very handy --> www.phaze.org/mythtv/cmdline-mythremote.tgz

[22:26:55]

Wicked:

well...the thing id like to use freemote with is my blackberry storm phone....that freemote is supposed to work right with the storm and mythtv over blutooth.

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HypNoMadic:

Ah, then my suggestion isn't such a great fit, too bad you don't have an iPhone

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Wicked:

hehe.

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Wicked:

att coverage sucks around here....verizon by far has the best network in my area.

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HypNoMadic:

you want to use it with Myth or Freevo?

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Wicked:

myth

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HypNoMadic:

Why are you trying to compile it? Looks like it's already available as a tarballed webpage http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/free . . . or=softlayer

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Wicked:

well i was downloading right from his webpage which links http://www.accentual.com/freemote/releases/fr . . . -0.92.tar.gz

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Wicked:

i think these are two different projects

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HypNoMadic:

looks like it, freemote and freemoted, are you in Cygwin or Linux?

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Wicked:

the one i want has a application that you install on your blackberry...that communicates to your mythtv server over blutooth

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Wicked:

linux

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HypNoMadic:

Maybe check out this page then http://freemote.sourceforge.net/

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Wicked:

and im familiar with building from source.

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Wicked:

yea. not what im looking for really

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Wicked:

:o

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