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| [00:01:31] | Wicked: | no idea how to find the other one...as there are only two results for "The Aristocrats" one being the movie i want..and the other movie is a animated kids movie called "The Aristocats" |
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| [00:43:06] | RDV_Linux: | Wicked: The issue with "The Aristocrats" is that the TMDB cross reference for that movie and the IMDB# is broken. Right now MythVideo and Jamu use IMDB# as the primary metadata search key for movies. 0.23 will switch to support both IMDB and TMDB numbers. |
| [00:43:16] | skd5aner: | jamu still very slow tonight |
| [00:43:26] | wagnerrp: | (trunk has already made the switch) |
| [00:43:27] | skd5aner: | or, I should say – the grabbers most likley |
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| [00:49:02] | skd5aner: | is there any way within jamu to see exactly what the delay is? |
| [00:52:36] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: You can hit ctrl+C a few times and you will probably see it sitting on some url code. If the last module referenced is tvdb_api the culprit is TVDB. You will not loose any work or harm the db. |
| [00:53:00] | hipitihop: | I have an ISO of a DVD on my mythbackend box ... how and what should I use to transcode that to a normal mpeg2 or mpeg4 ? |
| [00:53:09] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Restarting jamu will pick up where it left off. |
| [00:54:01] | RDV_Linux: | hipitihop: There was mention in the mailing of a script that converted isos to mkv files. Check there. |
| [00:55:13] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1681685 |
| [00:55:31] | skd5aner: | also, when I hit ctrl-c, it seemed to just skip instantly to the next video |
| [00:55:34] | wagnerrp: | hipitihop: are you doing this because you dont want ISOs? or are you doing this because you want to use storage groups in mythvideo? |
| [00:55:35] | skd5aner: | I had to hold it down |
| [00:57:44] | skd5aner: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1681692 |
| [00:58:13] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, technically I think because I don't need to waste so much space, the ISO is a 30gb file .. it is only an ISO because I couldn't get myth to import it normaly, it does the rip but then failed somewhere so I went to another machine and ripped it using k9copy |
| [00:58:58] | wagnerrp: | WTF would you be doing with a 30GB ISO, mythtv cant do anything with that |
| [00:59:54] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: The code in the pastebin is really data base calls although you may have just been unlucky hotting cntrl+c |
| [01:00:25] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, as I said, I couldn't get myth to rip it so just got k9copy to do an iso that works and worry about reencoding it later..the later is now |
| [01:00:47] | wagnerrp: | but k9copy cannot produce a 30GB ISO |
| [01:00:55] | wagnerrp: | DVDs are limited to 8.5GB |
| [01:01:14] | wagnerrp: | and youre not going to find any automatic tool under linux that will rip hddvd or bluray |
| [01:01:49] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: The second paste bin was hitting IMDB for a lost of movies. May be hold fold off for now or kust watch a video on your computer and check the job now and again. |
| [01:02:32] | EvilBob: | is there a way in 0.22's guide to change the number of channels(rows) and amount of time(columns) shown? naturally the font will also need to be adjusted. |
| [01:02:48] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, well perhaps I chose the wrong options and got all languages or somethig... as far as I know it is not a hddvd and certainly not a blueray |
| [01:03:12] | wagnerrp: | theres no 'all languages' |
| [01:03:20] | wagnerrp: | a DVD only contains 8.5GB |
| [01:03:29] | wagnerrp: | so that is the absolute maximum size of an ISO you might make |
| [01:03:54] | wagnerrp: | and even if you did make an ISO of a hddvd/bluray, it would be worthless because theres no way to play it on linux |
| [01:04:03] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, yes you're right ofcourse, did not even question it at the time, nonetheless it is the size it is |
| [01:04:55] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, -rw-r--r-- 1 34972688384 2009-11–16 13:04 TRANSFORMERS2_D1_IT.iso |
| [01:05:20] | skd5aner: | EvilBob: Yes, but it's controlled by the theme |
| [01:05:29] | skd5aner: | so you have to modify the theme itself, it's not a setting |
| [01:06:03] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, maybe I need to sort out what's failing when myth tries to rip dvd's and go from there |
| [01:06:04] | EvilBob: | skd5aner: is there a guide somewhere to the xml? |
| [01:06:27] | skd5aner: | Evilbob: not sure, I'm just repeating what I've heard |
| [01:06:46] | ** hipitihop has to pop-out, he'll take this up his dvd rip quest on return ** | |
| [01:06:53] | skd5aner: | I know there is some themeing docs on the wiki |
| [01:07:32] | EvilBob: | I'm sure I had 3 hours and 7 channels showing in the past, now 2 hours and 5 channels it seems. |
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| [01:09:27] | skd5aner: | for whatever theme you are currently watching |
| [01:09:38] | skd5aner: | for example, Graphite only shows the current 30 minutes |
| [01:11:26] | mag0o: | EvilBob: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development |
| [01:11:41] | mag0o: | you're interested in schedule-ui.xml i believe |
| [01:14:09] | EvilBob: | mag0o: thank you very much |
| [01:15:56] | skd5aner: | how does jamu/tmdb grabber pick the poster and artwork when there are multiple selections? |
| [01:17:52] | iamlindoro: | mag0o, EvilBob: Note it will not be enough to simply look at the screen in question and hack, to get what you want you will need to understand core MythUI concepts, specifically how buttonlists are built and size allocated |
| [01:18:07] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Jamu and MythVideo pick different ways. Jamu will try to pick a TV series top rated but random for Season level. MythVideo always gets top rated for both series and season. ... more to come |
| [01:19:10] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: MythVideo does even more if there are multiple fanart and posters trying to pick a different one per season. |
| [01:19:51] | RDV_Linux: | skd5aner: Movies are basically the first one returned by from TMDB, that will change in the future. |
| [01:19:51] | skd5aner: | Right now, I'm only getting Movie items, not TV |
| [01:20:05] | skd5aner: | RDV_Linux: thanks for the details |
| [01:20:12] | RDV_Linux: | np |
| [01:21:20] | EvilBob: | iamlindoro: does not seem to matter, making changes to the xml changed nothing |
| [01:22:05] | EvilBob: | iamlindoro: am I correct that earlier versions you could change this in settings? |
| [01:22:32] | iamlindoro: | EvilBob, Changing the XML most certainly does make a difference, under the assumption that you change the right XML |
| [01:22:38] | iamlindoro: | and yes, this was formerly controlled by settings |
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| [01:23:35] | EvilBob: | Hopefully it will be again |
| [01:23:41] | iamlindoro: | It never will be again |
| [01:24:13] | EvilBob: | taken the GNOME stance on things I guess, "options are bad" ;^) |
| [01:25:01] | iamlindoro: | Options which limit the ability of themers to present new and different paradigms on a screen are bad, yes |
| [01:27:15] | EvilBob: | changing the <channels>6</channels> and <timeslots>6</timeslots> in all schedule-ui.xml files makes no change in what is displayed. |
| [01:27:49] | iamlindoro: | Seems you didn't read the documentation then |
| [01:28:00] | iamlindoro: | if you're going to fly by the seat of your pants, then expect it not to work |
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| [01:28:36] | iamlindoro: | And this is speaking as someone who has successfully themes the guide numerous times |
| [01:28:38] | EvilBob: | there is nothing here http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Devel . . . egrid_widget to help much |
| [01:28:40] | iamlindoro: | er themed |
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| [01:29:05] | iamlindoro: | You need to understnad *all the basic concepts* of theming Myth before you can theme the grid |
| [01:29:30] | iamlindoro: | you cannot just jump in and theme the most complex of all the widgets... not with any acceptable degree of proficiency, anyway |
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| [01:30:08] | EvilBob: | Or maybe I want to be a User and not have to learn all of the details of creating a theme to make what was a simple settings change in the past. |
| [01:30:12] | wagnerrp: | im still baffled as to how a dvdrip could end up as a 35gb iso |
| [01:30:16] | iamlindoro: | Because how many rows show up is *not* determined by a simple <numberofsomething> tag |
| [01:31:02] | iamlindoro: | EvilBob, Sorry, you don't get to any more. That's a sacrifice made to a) allow far more flexible theming, and b) reduce the number of options that are useless to all but a select few users |
| [01:31:06] | iamlindoro: | expect it to continue |
| [01:31:14] | iamlindoro: | Wait till you see what we rip out for .23 |
| [01:31:25] | iamlindoro: | til them (and after that too), there's always .21 |
| [01:31:29] | iamlindoro: | s/them/then/ |
| [01:32:03] | EvilBob: | iamlindoro: where would one make a request for a theme that might fit my needs? |
| [01:32:31] | iamlindoro: | I don't know, I suppose you could offer to pay someone to write a theme on the theming mailing list |
| [01:33:24] | EvilBob: | iamlindoro: I only would like to get this one thing changed. I get tired of using the WebUI to see what is on tv. |
| [01:33:58] | iamlindoro: | Your options are really only do it yourself, pay someone to do it for you, or hope that someone does it for you |
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| [02:08:39] | michael___: | hey guys, i have a quick question |
| [02:09:23] | michael___: | about an avermedia avertv hybrid volar max |
| [02:09:26] | michael___: | usb tuner |
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| [02:35:53] | michael___: | anyone around out there? |
| [02:36:00] | _abbenormal: | no |
| [02:36:11] | michael___: | that's helpful :) |
| [02:36:35] | michael___: | does anyone happen to know anything about an avertv volar max usb tuner? |
| [02:36:48] | wagnerrp: | we cant help you unless you actually ask a question |
| [02:36:50] | wagnerrp: | you never have |
| [02:37:30] | michael___: | specifically if there is a firmwareor driver i can download to allow myth to recognize it? |
| [02:37:35] | michael___: | firmware even |
| [02:38:09] | luux: | hi |
| [02:38:16] | wagnerrp: | but for a few exceptions, mythtv does not support tuner cards |
| [02:38:20] | wagnerrp: | it supports various APIs |
| [02:38:25] | luux: | what's SPIFD passthrough? |
| [02:38:27] | wagnerrp: | V4L, IVTV, DVB |
| [02:38:40] | wagnerrp: | that card is a DVB card, and possible a V4L card as well |
| [02:38:40] | luux: | er iec943? |
| [02:38:54] | wagnerrp: | both are handled by www.linuxtv.org or #linuxtv |
| [02:39:03] | michael___: | i believe it is considered a usb-dvb device? |
| [02:39:26] | luux: | can I synch scheddirect through a front end? |
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| [02:40:19] | wagnerrp: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATSC_USB_Devices currently lists that as an 'Unsupported ATSC USB Device' |
| [02:40:27] | wagnerrp: | so currently, youre out of luck |
| [02:41:16] | michael___: | fair enough, i got my pinnacle pci card to work through the myth tv wiki and my remote frontends are working too which i find very exciting since that was a source of trouble for me before |
| [02:41:22] | MartinJT: | hi all... anyone know of any know issues with scanning for changes in MythVideo on .22? |
| [02:41:57] | MartinJT: | *known |
| [02:41:58] | wagnerrp: | scanning works just fine in mythvideo |
| [02:42:08] | wagnerrp: | what is your problem, specifically |
| [02:42:41] | MartinJT: | getting a qt assert error everytime I try it... which crashes the frontend... |
| [02:42:53] | michael___: | so wagnerrp, you don't think that the .fw for this similar card is the proper one? |
| [02:42:54] | wagnerrp: | pastebin the frontend logs |
| [02:42:55] | michael___: | AVerMedia AVerTV DVB-T USB 2.0 A800 |
| [02:43:17] | wagnerrp: | michael___: unless someone has written the drivers, and just never updated the wiki |
| [02:43:21] | wagnerrp: | that card is unsupported |
| [02:43:31] | wagnerrp: | and trying to forcefeed it any amount of firmware will do no good |
| [02:43:42] | MartinJT: | how do i use pastebin... not familar with it... |
| [02:43:58] | wagnerrp: | mythtv.pastebin.ca |
| [02:44:09] | wagnerrp: | go there, paste in the text, hit submit, paste the link in here |
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| [02:44:19] | norco10: | hi |
| [02:45:21] | norco10: | quick question: is there a way to record "premium channels" (i.e. HBO Cinemax, Showtime, etc...) in Standard Def as opposed to HD? |
| [02:45:41] | MartinJT: | found this one... http://pastebin.com/m3da73487 |
| [02:45:53] | MartinJT: | is that any good| |
| [02:45:58] | MartinJT: | ? |
| [02:46:34] | wagnerrp: | they all work the same, mythtv.pastebin.ca is just preferred, as we can go back and reference it more easily later |
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| [02:46:46] | michael___: | thanks wagnerrp, you've been helpful :) |
| [02:46:51] | michael___: | i appreciate the time |
| [02:46:56] | wagnerrp: | norco10: the only way to record those channels is through your cable STB |
| [02:47:08] | wagnerrp: | and chances are you wont be able to do it over firewire |
| [02:47:28] | wagnerrp: | so youre either stuck with an old analog capture card (preferably IVTV), or an HDPVR |
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| [02:47:39] | wagnerrp: | either using svideo, or component video |
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| [02:47:46] | norco10: | yes |
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| [02:48:19] | norco10: | I'm interested in component video, would it be possible with CV? |
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| [02:48:29] | wagnerrp: | CV? |
| [02:48:34] | wagnerrp: | oh |
| [02:48:38] | norco10: | component video |
| [02:48:43] | wagnerrp: | right |
| [02:48:45] | norco10: | non encrypted |
| [02:48:52] | wagnerrp: | for component, you need an HDPVR |
| [02:49:00] | wagnerrp: | but the only reason for component is if you want HD |
| [02:49:03] | wagnerrp: | but you said you wanted SD |
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| [02:49:15] | wagnerrp: | requiring a much cheaper IVTV card |
| [02:49:20] | norco10: | yes, i do want SD |
| [02:49:20] | wagnerrp: | (PVR-150/500) |
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| [02:49:58] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I'm not as concerned if distros use MYTHCONFDIR (though I /really/ believe they should set a proper HOME directory for the process, which would obviate the need for MYTHCONFDIR). MYTHCONFDIR really only helps you to have a confdir called something other than $HOME/.mythtv |
| [02:50:07] | norco10: | I mean, is it possible or would it just be eaiser to get a TiVo? |
| [02:50:14] | sphery: | and why any one or any distro would need some other name is beyond me |
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| [02:50:23] | sphery: | (Where HOME can be anything.) |
| [02:50:33] | wagnerrp: | norco10: i explained what to do |
| [02:50:40] | wagnerrp: | get an analog capture device, hook it up to your STB |
| [02:50:52] | wagnerrp: | then you just need to control it over firewire or IR |
| [02:51:08] | norco10: | this will work with digital cable? |
| [02:51:22] | wagnerrp: | no, it will work with your STB |
| [02:51:36] | wagnerrp: | if your STB receives off digital cable, then thats fine, mythtv doesnt care |
| [02:52:20] | norco10: | so it's impossible to record premium content wiht a digital box? |
| [02:52:33] | wagnerrp: | no, you will record whatever video comes out of your STB |
| [02:52:51] | wagnerrp: | if your STB is dumping premium channels out over its analog ports, well then you can record it |
| [02:52:55] | MartinJT: | wagnerrp, you're obviously quite busy... if you get chance to have a look at the log could you message me with any further steps you think I should take??? got to go to bed, it's 3am.... |
| [02:53:08] | MartinJT: | http://pastebin.com/m3da73487 |
| [02:53:28] | wagnerrp: | MartinJT: ive got no clue about that one, so im going to hand it off... |
| [02:53:35] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: you might want to take a look at that |
| [02:53:37] | MartinJT: | thanks if you can help... if not, I'll be back on tomorrow to ask... |
| [02:53:43] | norco10: | I have Comcast, I'm sure everything is digitally encrypted with them |
| [02:53:47] | wagnerrp: | MartinJT: it would be helpful if you could pastebin a bit more of the log |
| [02:53:53] | wagnerrp: | as well as exactly what you did to cause that error |
| [02:54:12] | MartinJT: | kk... i'll do that now... |
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| [02:56:25] | norco10: | anyone know of a good URL to read up on recording premium content with Myth? I've been Googling the past 2 days and haven't really found exact answers to what I'm looking for |
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| [02:56:42] | wagnerrp: | its got nothing to do with recording premium content |
| [02:56:54] | wagnerrp: | you just need to find documentation on interfacing mythtv with an external tuner |
| [02:57:27] | norco10: | the external tuner being the digital set-top cable box? |
| [02:57:36] | wagnerrp: | you get an stb, you connect the stb to your analog capture card, to tell mythtv that you are going to be using an external channel changer script that subsequently sends commands to the STB over firewire or IR |
| [02:57:51] | wagnerrp: | correct... STB = Set Top Box |
| [02:59:00] | norco10: | ok |
| [02:59:03] | MartinJT: | wagnerrp, http://pastebin.com/m5dc595c2 if anyone needs anymore info, I'll leave this on |
| [02:59:05] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, back now ... so reagrdless of the mystery size of this iso, what is the easieast way to trasncode that intoe something that I can add to the myth library ? |
| [02:59:08] | norco10: | that makes since |
| [02:59:55] | wagnerrp: | hipitihop: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/403505 |
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| [03:02:27] | norco10: | wagnerrp: is there a good dual tuner card you could recommend. You seem to know a lot about the set-up and I plan on getting one tonight or tomorrow. |
| [03:03:10] | wagnerrp: | for connection to a STB? |
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| [03:03:36] | norco10: | yes, so I can record every channel via my digital STB |
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| [03:03:42] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, thanks will have a go .. while I have your attention, where can I find the correct log of why myth fails in final part of dvd rip job ? leaving a stranded vob file |
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| [03:04:02] | wagnerrp: | for standard def analog tuning/capture, the only card of any worth is the PVR-500 |
| [03:04:16] | wagnerrp: | if you get one, make sure you grab the daughter card as well for the secondary video input |
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| [03:04:26] | norco10: | great. I really appreciate your help. |
| [03:04:28] | wagnerrp: | hipitihop: cant say, never used MTD |
| [03:05:20] | hipitihop: | norco10, what is the advantage of a duel tuner card over something like a couple of Asus 3100 ? |
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| [03:05:53] | wagnerrp: | it... doesnt support analog capture? |
| [03:06:07] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, so archiving DVD's is something mythtv users don't do much these days ? |
| [03:06:27] | wagnerrp: | i do it regularly, i just dont use mythtv to do so |
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| [03:18:44] | leprechau: | I recently updated to mythtv 0.22-fixes built from svn...I have always used the fill_mythvideo_metadata.pl script in the wiki/googlecode to update my metadata info...however after the swtich to .22 all of my tv episodes are not displaying the existing snapshot in the art folder anymore |
| [03:18:59] | leprechau: | they are now showing the banner/season graphic |
| [03:19:19] | wagnerrp: | probably because it has not been updated for the new database schema |
| [03:19:51] | leprechau: | supposedly it has...it says it supports .22 on the mythtv wiki |
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| [03:20:34] | leprechau: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Fill_mythvideo_metadata.pl |
| [03:20:57] | leprechau: | is there a setting someplace in .22 that determines what gets displayed for a file image? |
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| [03:21:40] | wagnerrp: | in the database |
| [03:23:46] | leprechau: | hrm okay I see it in mythconverg.videometadata |
| [03:24:02] | wagnerrp: | mythtv now has specific screenshot support |
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| [03:24:29] | wagnerrp: | previously, it would just show the coverart, and fill_mythvideo_metadata.pl used a screenshot for the coverart |
| [03:24:43] | leprechau: | yes I see the screenshot column filled in with the screenshot info |
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| [03:24:51] | wagnerrp: | now, its up to the theme to decide what images to use |
| [03:24:51] | leprechau: | in the table |
| [03:25:04] | leprechau: | ahh okay that's what I was after |
| [03:25:07] | wagnerrp: | and your theme has decided to use the standard coverart, rather than a screenshot |
| [03:25:20] | leprechau: | I'll take a look into the theme files |
| [03:25:40] | wagnerrp: | read the documentation on the wiki before blindly diving into them |
| [03:26:02] | leprechau: | have a link by any chance? |
| [03:26:25] | leprechau: | nevermind |
| [03:26:33] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development |
| [03:26:38] | leprechau: | google took me right there /Themes |
| [03:26:44] | leprechau: | ahh aight that one is prolly better |
| [03:27:07] | leprechau: | thank you |
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| [03:32:26] | leprechau: | would it be considered a bug that the included mythcenter theme ignores the existence of snapshots if present? |
| [03:32:44] | leprechau: | or is that more of just a personal preference kind of thing? |
| [03:32:48] | wagnerrp: | no, it would be considered that the themer simply chose not to use them |
| [03:33:11] | leprechau: | gotcha |
| [03:33:29] | wagnerrp: | where as before, mythvideo was defined by the plugin, now it is defined by the theme |
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| [03:57:25] | Cardoe: | superm1: just wanted to see if you had any more ideas on ticket #7483 |
| [03:57:29] | Cardoe: | er #7493 |
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| [04:27:22] | defaultro: | evening folks. Is 550W enough to drive an Intel i7 cpu? |
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| [04:33:40] | wagnerrp: | one would hope they could manage to stay below their advertised rating of 130W |
| [04:34:23] | wagnerrp: | considering the board and a low end video card may pull an additional 30–50W, you should be safe |
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| [04:35:44] | wagnerrp: | the ONLY reason for power supplies over 300W are spinup power for hard drives, or large and multiple video cards |
| [04:37:08] | wagnerrp: | on servers, you have multiple processors and a dozen or more sticks of memory to additionally suck down power |
| [04:42:11] | Elv13_: | I solved my problem with ATI radeon 9200 TV out of sync |
| [04:42:48] | Elv13_: | it started to work after some desintralizing custom configs |
| [04:43:11] | wagnerrp: | i dont even know what that means |
| [04:44:49] | Elv13_: | desinterlacing*, stupid xchat spell checker |
| [04:45:55] | Cardoe: | hmm I'm using the stock "VDPAU Normal" from 0-22-fixes r22860 |
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| [04:46:05] | Cardoe: | and everytime I play something back it complains about colorspace |
| [04:46:12] | Cardoe: | not being a valid option |
| [04:46:19] | Cardoe: | wasn't that renamed to vdpaucolorspace? |
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| [04:53:00] | Elv13_: | I linked /var/lib/mythtv/videos to my movie collection, but I can find the button to "scan" the folder like music, where is it located and how can I fetch movie cover? |
| [04:54:05] | wagnerrp: | amazon has bluray 3-packs for $25 |
| [04:54:19] | wagnerrp: | sadly, theres at least one garbage movie in each |
| [04:56:30] | justinh: | they'll be cheap as chips when the '3D' versions come out ;-) |
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| [04:57:42] | justinh: | or when the next disc format comes along. Whichever happens first. Hopefully the new disc format. I want 3D to fail terribly |
| [04:58:19] | Elv13_: | next disk format? You really think there will be a next "disk" format? |
| [04:58:24] | wagnerrp: | you know... i have mixed fealings about the next disk format |
| [04:58:46] | Elv13_: | I think digital distribution will take over, or they will sell SD card like movies with some DRM |
| [04:59:10] | wagnerrp: | on the one side, im hoping that bandwidth and disk storage becomes so ubiquitous in 10 years or so that they transition away from optical media |
| [04:59:37] | wagnerrp: | on the other side, such a transition will probably be so DRM laden that you have no choice but to 'enjoy' the content in the way they want you to |
| [04:59:47] | wagnerrp: | complete with useless trailers and ads beforehand |
| [05:00:07] | justinh: | have some faith in the hackers :) |
| [05:00:13] | Elv13_: | B) |
| [05:00:23] | wagnerrp: | well theyve failed so far |
| [05:00:43] | wagnerrp: | the only group to successfully stay ahead of BD+ is some for-pay group out of the Caymans |
| [05:01:12] | justinh: | course we have the DMCA to thank for that |
| [05:01:14] | Elv13_: | 90% of the music distribution is now done by "hackers" (hacker now equal pirate and a 90 years old grandmother can now be called hacked, I love CNN) |
| [05:01:16] | wagnerrp: | Antigua... |
| [05:01:26] | wagnerrp: | (which ive very willingly paid) |
| [05:01:44] | justinh: | but I think we really have pirates to thank for it all |
| [05:01:45] | wagnerrp: | a 90yr old grandmother with no internet connection, no less |
| [05:02:22] | Elv13_: | RIAA have sued some of them, don't you know? |
| [05:02:53] | wagnerrp: | the RIAA rarely ever goes after the release groups |
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| [05:03:14] | wagnerrp: | they sue individual users who dont have the capability or motivation to fight back |
| [05:03:17] | justinh: | wagnerrp: that would involve a lot more effort. Well *some* effort |
| [05:03:19] | Elv13_: | Well, they sued my university and I am not even in USA |
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| [05:03:41] | wagnerrp: | and then they send the FBI after real criminal organizations running bootleg operations |
| [05:04:09] | Cardoe: | Has anyone messed with DVDs on a VDPAU-only machine? |
| [05:04:13] | justinh: | right now what they're getting from me is $0. Because I don't see much worth buying |
| [05:05:42] | Elv13_: | Well, I know how to hide my traces, but more and more, I am stressed when I use P2P, their tactic work... I can't beleve they got me with that FUD... |
| [05:05:55] | [R]: | Cardoe: i've played a dvd... works just fine |
| [05:06:22] | wagnerrp: | VDPAU should do mpeg2 DVDs just fine |
| [05:06:25] | Cardoe: | [R]: on a machine that's only capable of VDPAU playback? |
| [05:06:32] | [R]: | yes... |
| [05:06:36] | [R]: | vdpau can play a dvd... |
| [05:06:39] | Cardoe: | well I'm looking for the magic sauce |
| [05:06:44] | wagnerrp: | Cardoe: what do you mean 'only capable'? |
| [05:06:44] | Cardoe: | its an ION board |
| [05:06:46] | [R]: | i dindt do anything magic |
| [05:06:57] | wagnerrp: | even an Atom should have enough power for DVD decoding |
| [05:07:25] | Cardoe: | well right now I'm seeing seconds per frame |
| [05:07:29] | Cardoe: | instead of frames per second |
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| [05:07:52] | Cardoe: | using the VDPAU Normal playback profile |
| [05:07:55] | Elv13_: | a 500mhz P3 can decode DVD, atom can do it at 33% CPU usage |
| [05:07:57] | Cardoe: | using the Internal player |
| [05:09:29] | wagnerrp: | UOPs should be banned under penalty of pain |
| [05:09:35] | Cardoe: | UOP? |
| [05:09:45] | wagnerrp: | user operation prohibition |
| [05:10:01] | wagnerrp: | those dirty little things preventing you from skipping straight to the movie |
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| [05:10:44] | Cardoe: | 2009-11–21 23:03:39.560 WriteAudio: buffer underrun |
| [05:10:45] | Cardoe: | 2009-11–21 23:03:39.560 Audio 4633 ms behind video but already 180 video frames queued. AV-Sync might be broken. |
| [05:10:50] | Cardoe: | That's pretty much all I'm seeing |
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| [05:11:58] | functor: | hi, does the rotor function in mythtv operate the motor to move the dish to the correct position? |
| [05:12:01] | wagnerrp: | cant say ive ever played a dvd in mythvideo |
| [05:12:22] | wagnerrp: | the DiSEqC stuff? yeah, thats the intent |
| [05:12:46] | functor: | can someone walk me through it? I am trying to figure out how to get it to position correctly |
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| [05:12:55] | justinh: | nobody here right now can do that |
| [05:12:58] | functor: | I have tried sending GOTO commands to my rotor by they arent doing anything |
| [05:13:04] | functor: | but* |
| [05:13:12] | functor: | I can move it manually using xdipo |
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| [05:13:35] | wagnerrp: | its only used by european satellite users, who should all be asleep |
| [05:13:45] | wagnerrp: | although the same can be said for justinh over there |
| [05:13:53] | functor: | Anyone know any good websites? google isnt too helpful |
| [05:14:07] | justinh: | we never really get anybody who knows what they're doing with dvb-s in here so you'd notice |
| [05:14:17] | functor: | heh |
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| [05:14:56] | functor: | I have a feint idea of what to do, but I have specific questions on for example how to figure out what kind of rotor i have (its on the roof, and its not mine rented house) |
| [05:16:05] | superm1: | Cardoe, i wish i did. it's incredibly annoying |
| [05:16:12] | functor: | are there any other channels servers that are more dvb-s specific? |
| [05:16:33] | Cardoe: | superm1: are you seeing the same pattern as me as well or different? |
| [05:16:49] | Cardoe: | superm1: you're using Mythbuntu as well (maintainer no?) |
| [05:17:38] | justinh: | functor: not mythtv channels more dvb-s related no |
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| [05:18:40] | TUplink: | alright guys i done gone and BROK it LOL i upgraded to 9.10 ubunto from 9.04 and now the backend wont start |
| [05:19:00] | justinh: | functor: all I know is that you put all the stuff for that kind of config in the disecq section of the capture card setup page |
| [05:19:27] | Cardoe: | TUplink: what's /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log say? |
| [05:19:32] | functor: | already done all that, its not moving the rotor though |
| [05:19:38] | TUplink: | lol i knew youd ask |
| [05:19:47] | functor: | it may be the case it doesnt support it or i have to do it manually |
| [05:19:52] | justinh: | functor: lemme check something |
| [05:19:59] | functor: | ok |
| [05:20:21] | TUplink: | Deleting UPnP client... Failed to init MythContext, exiting. |
| [05:21:11] | TUplink: | No UPnP backends found |
| [05:21:20] | TUplink: | over and over and over again |
| [05:21:21] | justinh: | functor: ah! You put more disecq stuff in input connections I think |
| [05:21:37] | functor: | oh i see |
| [05:21:43] | TUplink: | maybe i should try setup |
| [05:21:57] | functor: | let me try playing with that |
| [05:22:15] | justinh: | functor: that'd be where you set up each 'channel lineup' |
| [05:22:28] | justinh: | in relation to a tuner |
| [05:23:04] | functor: | hmm, tried tuning and it seems to have crashed |
| [05:23:35] | wagnerrp: | well back to coding |
| [05:23:41] | functor: | DVBSM(0), Warning: Can not count Uncorrected Blocks |
| [05:23:52] | functor: | ../../src/xcb_lock.c:77: _XGetXCBBuffer: Assertion `((int) ((xcb_req) – (dpy->request)) >= 0)' failed. |
| [05:23:57] | functor: | lol, what.... |
| [05:23:58] | wagnerrp: | i had no idea that a generic class to handle crossreferenced tables would be such a fugly bit of sql |
| [05:24:12] | TUplink: | says cant connect to port 3306 on database host localhost |
| [05:24:23] | TUplink: | but i can telnet localhost 3306 |
| [05:24:42] | wagnerrp: | can you mysql localhost 3306? |
| [05:24:51] | TUplink: | i can phpmyadmin |
| [05:24:59] | TUplink: | dose that count |
| [05:25:04] | wagnerrp: | good enough |
| [05:25:41] | TUplink: | Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' to database 'mythconverge' from the CMD line tho |
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| [05:29:46] | TUplink: | might help if i speled converg right LOL it works from a shell |
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| [05:33:27] | TUplink: | lol i figured it out |
| [05:33:44] | Elv13_: | TUplink: its your lucky day, I got that problem yesterday |
| [05:34:06] | TUplink: | in mythsetup i had to put the IP of the backend not 127 and not localhost cus i setit up to be used with a seprate frontend |
| [05:34:13] | Elv13_: | TUplink: Create a new mysql user and grant it "%" as host and every possible permissions |
| [05:34:26] | TUplink: | that wasnt the issue LOL |
| [05:34:27] | Elv13_: | it is not secure, but it is a base, then remove permissions one by one and test |
| [05:34:30] | TUplink: | i dont think |
| [05:34:39] | TUplink: | mythfilldatabase is running now |
| [05:35:02] | Elv13_: | me too, but frontend does not connect, right? |
| [05:35:06] | TUplink: | usage insert select and delete is all you need i belive |
| [05:35:10] | TUplink: | IDK |
| [05:35:23] | TUplink: | havent got that far yet just finaly got the backend to start |
| [05:35:25] | TUplink: | LOL |
| [05:38:11] | Elv13_: | All of my movie follow this pattern: Title [years]. jamu.py fail to fetch metadata for them, does it mean I will have to download them manually? |
| [05:39:15] | TUplink: | i had an issue with getting all the metadata and ended up replacing the imdb php file with a difrent one |
| [05:39:36] | TUplink: | if thats what your trying to do |
| [05:39:56] | Elv13_: | I am trying to do that: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Jamu#Installing_jamu.py |
| [05:40:08] | Elv13_: | it found 1 out of 550 movie... |
| [05:40:21] | iamlindoro: | Elv13_, You need films with parseable filenames |
| [05:40:22] | Elv13_: | (1984) |
| [05:40:28] | iamlindoro: | including years and the like will break parsing |
| [05:41:01] | Elv13_: | is it possible to edit a variable to match only before the "[" |
| [05:41:09] | iamlindoro: | Anything is possible |
| [05:41:09] | Elv13_: | I never used python before |
| [05:41:22] | iamlindoro: | but you're on your own to do it |
| [05:41:24] | wagnerrp: | in jamu, its probably just a matter of adjusting a couple regexes |
| [05:41:28] | Elv13_: | I am a C guy, so its kind of a jump |
| [05:41:49] | Elv13_: | does someone have any experience with python here? |
| [05:41:59] | TUplink: | Elv13_ this is the one i did http://www.graphics-muse.org/wp/?p=516 |
| [05:42:03] | ** wagnerrp cautiously raises a hand ** | |
| [05:42:28] | iamlindoro: | TUplink, he's using .22 |
| [05:42:34] | TUplink: | ok.... |
| [05:42:36] | iamlindoro: | he doesn't need to add tmdb, it's the default grabber |
| [05:42:48] | TUplink: | i am now :( that means mine will be FOBAR :( |
| [05:43:00] | iamlindoro: | no, you *should* be using tmdb |
| [05:43:08] | TUplink: | oh... ok |
| [05:43:11] | iamlindoro: | he just doesn't need to do anything special to do so |
| [05:43:13] | wagnerrp: | Elv13_: a quick lookup... the stuff you need starts around line 1300 |
| [05:43:14] | iamlindoro: | he's using .22 |
| [05:44:16] | Elv13_: | wagnerrp: jamu or tmdb? |
| [05:44:25] | wagnerrp: | jamu |
| [05:44:30] | wagnerrp: | tmdb does exactly zero name parsing |
| [05:44:32] | iamlindoro: | given there's only about 100 lines of tmdb, he means jamu |
| [05:45:21] | Elv13_: | so using perl reged in tmdb, it would look like [0–9a-zA-Z]*\[ |
| [05:45:22] | Elv13_: | ? |
| [05:45:24] | ** iamlindoro wonders if the people spending hours setting up Jamu realize they could have had it all done in the UI by then, and get better image results that way too ** | |
| [05:45:31] | Elv13_: | to cut only the movie name |
| [05:45:59] | Elv13_: | iamlindoro: it depend on the collection size |
| [05:46:16] | iamlindoro: | I could do 550 movies in ~20 minutes |
| [05:46:28] | iamlindoro: | far less than most people spend hacking away... |
| [05:46:39] | iamlindoro: | w, downarrow, w, downarrow, etc. |
| [05:46:55] | wagnerrp: | its all threaded, its not like you have to wait for it to update the UI |
| [05:47:11] | Elv13_: | "w" does nothing |
| [05:47:18] | iamlindoro: | It most certainly does |
| [05:47:26] | wagnerrp: | 'w' is a shortcut to 'grab all metadata' |
| [05:47:32] | iamlindoro: | (for the selected item) |
| [05:47:36] | Elv13_: | oops, it was on a folder, sorry |
| [05:47:53] | Elv13_: | your right, it work |
| [05:47:53] | wagnerrp: | yes, no metadata for folders |
| [05:48:18] | iamlindoro: | anyway, who am I to stop anyone from spending hours on Jamu... still doesn't address the fact that the UI returns better image results, but to each their own |
| [05:48:20] | wagnerrp: | just the folder.jpg, or missing that, the image from the first file in that directory |
| [05:48:41] | iamlindoro: | and I'm off |
| [05:48:50] | luux: | hi |
| [05:48:56] | luux: | I just set up btrfs |
| [05:49:05] | luux: | in raid0 |
| [05:49:26] | luux: | how many PiP can mythtv handle? |
| [05:49:33] | wagnerrp: | i think it could be a lot more usable if it werent carrying around the 6k lines of grabber script and other stuff so that it could be used outside of mythtv |
| [05:49:38] | wagnerrp: | PiP? |
| [05:49:42] | luux: | I find it annoying having to change channels |
| [05:50:05] | luux: | Picture in Picture |
| [05:50:07] | wagnerrp: | as in you want multiple (more than two) shows on at once? |
| [05:50:14] | wagnerrp: | like... the BTTF video wall? |
| [05:50:34] | luux: | what's BTTF? |
| [05:50:39] | wagnerrp: | back to the future |
| [05:50:55] | wagnerrp: | part 2, to be specific |
| [05:50:59] | luux: | ah, don't recall that, but 3 at least. |
| [05:51:05] | wagnerrp: | why? |
| [05:51:14] | luux: | why not? cads aren't that expensive. |
| [05:51:36] | wagnerrp: | what could you possibly want to watch three of at the same time, when you can only hear one, and cant possibly be paying attention to all of them |
| [05:51:54] | luux: | because having to change channels just to see what's going on somewhere else is cumbersome. |
| [05:52:06] | luux: | no, just PiP |
| [05:52:06] | wagnerrp: | youre misunderstanding the whole purpose of a DVR |
| [05:52:29] | wagnerrp: | you record a bunch of stuff, and watch it later |
| [05:52:45] | wagnerrp: | go through your schedule, and set to record anything that looks like it might be interesting |
| [05:53:16] | luux: | I don't have the schedule yet. |
| [05:53:49] | wagnerrp: | sign up for SchedulesDirect, get your two weeks |
| [05:54:16] | luux: | can I load scheddirect through the frontend? |
| [05:54:32] | luux: | the frontend being on a different place. |
| [05:54:34] | wagnerrp: | you set it up in mythtv-setup |
| [05:54:59] | wagnerrp: | video sources are global, so you can set it up on any machine with a mythtv install |
| [05:55:10] | luux: | ok |
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| [05:55:25] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is practically worthless without scheduling data |
| [05:55:45] | luux: | I noticed that already :\ |
| [05:55:54] | wagnerrp: | and with scheduling data, you simply browse through the listings without actually changing the channel |
| [05:56:12] | luux: | hence why I was asking for PiP |
| [05:56:29] | Elv13_: | iamlindoro: "w" does not really like "title [year]", but it did find more than jamu |
| [05:56:33] | luux: | browsing channels with their content streaming real-time in PiP |
| [05:56:42] | wagnerrp: | you get a single PiP window, and dont expect that to change without someone submitting a patch for it |
| [05:56:57] | wagnerrp: | most devs never use livetv |
| [05:57:07] | wagnerrp: | and dont think its actually 'real-time' |
| [05:57:26] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has *at least* a two second delay between the broadcast, and when it shows up on screen |
| [05:57:33] | wagnerrp: | it may be much more depending on the tuner card |
| [05:58:00] | wagnerrp: | and tuner cards generally take 1–10 seconds to change channels, depending on the card |
| [05:58:13] | Cardoe: | I actually used livetv for the first time in like 3 years the other day |
| [05:58:18] | Cardoe: | I was surprised |
| [05:58:20] | wagnerrp: | mythtv (and DVRs in general) are not suited for 'channel surfing' |
| [05:58:23] | Cardoe: | forgot to set a football game to record |
| [05:58:43] | Cardoe: | so what wagnerrp is saying is really the truth |
| [05:59:08] | luux: | what's a value qam 264 card? I don't need a card with encoders, this and that, something that simply dumps cable into the hard drive. |
| [05:59:20] | luux: | I want a multi-card rig |
| [05:59:38] | qwertydamus: | hi, all of my mythtv frontends are now exiting anytime somone clicks on "Watch Recordings", this started yesterday and all of the frontends were functioning fine for months before this |
| [05:59:41] | wagnerrp: | what do you want to capture with this digital tuner? |
| [05:59:58] | luux: | HD content. |
| [06:00:07] | wagnerrp: | what channels, specifically |
| [06:00:26] | luux: | oh... in the usa. |
| [06:00:53] | wagnerrp: | what channels, specifically |
| [06:01:25] | luux: | cable HD, the free ones or whatever I can grab off time warner |
| [06:02:06] | wagnerrp: | seems you get a ton of broadcast channels, telemundo, tbs, and.... showtime? that cant be right |
| [06:02:32] | wagnerrp: | http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/lineup_w . . . neup_1149867 |
| [06:02:54] | wagnerrp: | was showtime having a free weekend or something? |
| [06:03:51] | wagnerrp: | anyway, thats what you should expect to pick up over digital cable with a tuner card |
| [06:04:20] | luux: | the thing is I already have a PINNAcle i800 |
| [06:06:33] | luux: | why external? |
| [06:06:54] | luux: | are external better choice or something? |
| [06:08:00] | wagnerrp: | external what? |
| [06:08:11] | luux: | ha ha!! newegg description mentions MYTHTV!! |
| [06:08:19] | luux: | the tuner. |
| [06:08:25] | luux: | is external. |
| [06:08:30] | wagnerrp: | what tuner? |
| [06:08:52] | wagnerrp: | i linked you to a page giving your clear digital cable lineup |
| [06:08:56] | wagnerrp: | not to a tuner |
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| [06:09:48] | luux: | oh, that didn't load so I cut it to silicondust.com |
| [06:10:23] | wagnerrp: | because the HDHR is a networked tuner, it is uniquely suited to maintaining a database of available channels |
| [06:11:00] | luux: | so do you reccomend it? |
| [06:11:11] | wagnerrp: | i have one, it works great |
| [06:11:18] | luux: | SiliconDust HDHomeRun Network-based Dual Digital HDTV Tuner Ethernet Interface – Retail |
| [06:11:20] | wagnerrp: | i have a hvr-1250, it works great |
| [06:11:20] | luux: | Dual |
| [06:11:31] | wagnerrp: | have no experience with any other digital tuners |
| [06:11:32] | luux: | the one $148.99 |
| [06:11:46] | wagnerrp: | it is a bit pricey per tuner |
| [06:11:49] | luux: | wait, hvr or silicondust? |
| [06:12:12] | wagnerrp: | you can usually find decent tuners for $40-$50/tuner |
| [06:12:34] | wagnerrp: | i have one of each |
| [06:14:00] | luux: | pci express? is that good? |
| [06:14:07] | Elv13_: | I am looking for one with component input supporting 720P, any recomandation? |
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| [06:14:11] | wagnerrp: | does your motherboard have a PCIe slot? |
| [06:14:19] | wagnerrp: | Elv13_: HDPVR, only option |
| [06:14:22] | luux: | just one |
| [06:14:33] | wagnerrp: | are you otherwise using it for a video card? |
| [06:14:48] | Elv13_: | expensive... |
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| [06:15:10] | wagnerrp: | its the cheapest HD capture device available |
| [06:15:20] | luux: | this one looks good --> Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1250 |
| [06:15:51] | wagnerrp: | there are cheaper ones that do component, but they max at 480p |
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| [06:16:11] | luux: | no, I have a usb adaptep, but I'm willing to merrily use it for the tuner :) |
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| [06:16:52] | luux: | wagnerrp: thanks, I AM SOLD! |
| [06:16:58] | Elv13_: | I have a dazzel DVC-150b, but that crap don't even work in windows, and provoke a kernel panic at the instant I plug it in windows |
| [06:17:01] | Elv13_: | linux* |
| [06:17:02] | wagnerrp: | if you have slot restrictions, you should consider building a separate box to house your tuners, or getting a HDHR |
| [06:17:56] | wagnerrp: | one common recommendation with mythtv is to have a big ugly noisy computer with a bunch of tuners and hard drives in a closet or basement somewhere |
| [06:18:12] | wagnerrp: | then you can have your small, compact, unobtrusive frontend next to your tv |
| [06:18:17] | luux: | m.. I got extra pci and an additional pci exprees (the video card type) |
| [06:18:40] | wagnerrp: | the other recommendation is not to use experimental file systems or RAID0 |
| [06:18:50] | luux: | yes, that will come in time. |
| [06:18:52] | luux: | lol |
| [06:18:54] | Elv13_: | wagnerrp: its what I am building, I have 2 analog tv tuner, but they have access to only 60 channal, the digital one have access to 800 |
| [06:19:12] | wagnerrp: | Elv13_: do those analog tuners have video inputs? |
| [06:19:24] | wagnerrp: | the STBs should have svideo outputs |
| [06:19:38] | luux: | I'll have a back up. btrfs has solid support from big players HP, Intel, Oracle. I trust it. |
| [06:20:20] | luux: | Elv13_: oO you got 800 channels?? which country is this? |
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| [06:20:39] | Elv13_: | wagnerrp: yea, but they are not close to the Digital cable box, not in the same room. I have a screenless laptop with a wireless-N connection to the backend |
| [06:20:53] | wagnerrp: | luux: i wouldnt trust it |
| [06:21:17] | wagnerrp: | personally, i think i jumped on board with ZFS a bit prematurely |
| [06:21:26] | wagnerrp: | its certainly given me my fair share of pains |
| [06:21:27] | Elv13_: | luux: Canada, all channal from USA, Canada and France. And its free when someone in your family work for the cable compagny ;) |
| [06:21:36] | luux: | lol, this chat is on a monitor-less, hard-drive-less laptop. |
| [06:21:42] | Elv13_: | I am planing to build a ZFS pool too |
| [06:21:59] | luux: | Elv13_: ah, cheater. |
| [06:22:16] | wagnerrp: | i would use solaris, or wait until fbsd 8.0 |
| [06:22:19] | luux: | Elv13_: hey my friend, wussup!! |
| [06:22:23] | wagnerrp: | and make sure you have a ton of memory to throw at it |
| [06:22:43] | wagnerrp: | zfs really likes to suck it down |
| [06:23:01] | luux: | I am nice guy introduce me to your family :) |
| [06:23:07] | Elv13_: | wagnerr: I have 4gb of DDR400, 2 PCI SATA card and a P4 3.0ghz (not HT) dedivcated to be a file server |
| [06:23:21] | Elv13_: | dedicated* |
| [06:23:29] | wagnerrp: | 4GB is decent, the PCI cards and P4 are not |
| [06:23:47] | Elv13_: | Bah, it should work |
| [06:24:02] | Elv13_: | its that demanding? |
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| [06:24:09] | luux: | Elv13_: can I hook up a front end to your backend end?? |
| [06:24:31] | wagnerrp: | well youre peaking at 133MB/s over the PCI bus, more realistically somewhere closer 100MB/s |
| [06:24:37] | wagnerrp: | a single hard drive will saturate that |
| [06:24:49] | wagnerrp: | and youre going to be competing for that bandwidth with tuners and network cards |
| [06:24:56] | Elv13_: | luux: if you pay me the upload limit excess fee of 100$ |
| [06:25:35] | wagnerrp: | and doing software raid on a UP machine is not fun |
| [06:25:40] | luux: | Elv13_: use decent hardware. is not expensive nowadays. |
| [06:25:44] | Elv13_: | wagnerrp: that computer will be dedicated to SOLARIS+ZFS, it will not be a Linux with userland ZFS |
| [06:25:56] | luux: | btrfs got built in raid. |
| [06:26:09] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt matter, kernel or user space, its all software |
| [06:26:18] | Elv13_: | ZFS got build in raid and lvm |
| [06:26:28] | defaultro: | thanks wagnerrp, it's been running for more than 1 hour now and it hasn't died |
| [06:26:34] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, makemkv made & installed and woeked lieka treat.. produced about 4 mkv files but longest 2.1gb looks complete and worked like a treat |
| [06:26:41] | Elv13_: | wagnerrp: it take less ressources in solaris |
| [06:26:45] | kormoc: | and my filesystem's epenis is bigger then all of yours, so can we just zip back up? |
| [06:27:21] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: but its all glossy white, you should get that looked at |
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| [06:27:51] | defaultro: | cpu is 35C at the moment. Is that high? |
| [06:27:52] | luux: | Elv13_: I had the same plan, until some one told me that btrfs is better than zfs and is on linux. |
| [06:28:02] | hipitihop: | so given a mkv file, where do I need to place this so it shows in mythfrontend and can be played back ?? |
| [06:28:05] | luux: | so I just loaded the module and, voila!! |
| [06:28:13] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: but the ladies are used to glossy smooth plastic hardware already, so they don't mind |
| [06:28:20] | wagnerrp: | 35C is perfectly fine for a CPU |
| [06:28:28] | Elv13_: | luux: butter FS format is not completed yet |
| [06:28:30] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: you have a vibrate mode too? |
| [06:28:36] | Elv13_: | it will brake |
| [06:28:46] | Elv13_: | you will lose files |
| [06:28:54] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: wouldn't be worth compiling without one |
| [06:29:14] | kormoc: | Mmm... Buttery filesystems... |
| [06:29:41] | Elv13_: | On paper, ZFS look better than butter anyway |
| [06:29:47] | Elv13_: | and its ready -now- |
| [06:30:01] | luux: | Elv13_: has some features that zfs lacks such as online resizing, very handy when adding new drives. That's something ZFS cannot handle without some weird odd workaround. |
| [06:30:03] | wagnerrp: | dont know much at all about btrfs |
| [06:30:25] | wagnerrp: | ZFS does not support raid volume expansion, thats the only thing i dislike about it |
| [06:30:39] | Elv13_: | ZFS pool can add and remove devices without unmouting too |
| [06:30:39] | kormoc: | It's all overkill for myth, just use whatever and storage groups and call it a day |
| [06:30:42] | wagnerrp: | and nearly no FS supports online expansion, so thats no loss |
| [06:30:56] | luux: | Elv13_: well look at it like this, I have mythtv running on btrfs NOW, you are WAITING for freebsd to use zfs. lol |
| [06:31:09] | wagnerrp: | waiting? |
| [06:31:14] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: other then such little used ones like ext2, ext3, and ext4 |
| [06:31:30] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: on all of those, you have to unmount before expanding dont you? |
| [06:31:33] | Elv13_: | I will use solaris, not freebsd, benchmark prove that it is slower |
| [06:31:40] | luux: | exactly, raid expansion is what kept me bugging about zfs. |
| [06:31:43] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: negative, resizee2fs will do it online just fine |
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| [06:32:09] | wagnerrp: | Elv13_: performance benchmarks dont make a damn bit of difference with that PCI bottleneck looming of your head |
| [06:32:30] | wagnerrp: | no matter what you do, it will still be slower than a single hard drive |
| [06:32:37] | Elv13_: | I have 4 sata2 3gbs on the motherboard too |
| [06:32:44] | Elv13_: | but I plan to add more than 4 drives |
| [06:32:48] | Elv13_: | all 1.5tb |
| [06:32:59] | luux: | I got three 1TBs |
| [06:33:07] | wagnerrp: | but if you use RAID, youre still limited to the speed of that slowest drive over the PCI bus |
| [06:33:14] | Elv13_: | Most of the drive in my current file server are still ide |
| [06:33:24] | justinh: | SGs ftw :) |
| [06:33:32] | Elv13_: | many with 38000 hours according to S.M.A.R.T |
| [06:33:33] | kormoc: | Woo, I have 12 8tb drives, and who cares? Not I! |
| [06:34:15] | Elv13_: | My current file server suck more than the worst performances I can get from that ZFS config |
| [06:34:34] | wagnerrp: | all im saying is you should consider spending $200 and getting some newer hardware to run that file server |
| [06:34:38] | justinh: | IMHO bus speeds are gonna have to catch up with drive sizes if RAID is to remain a realistic proposition with large size disks |
| [06:34:45] | wagnerrp: | youre certainly going to be spending much more than that on the hard drives |
| [06:35:02] | justinh: | cos right now there's too high a chance of another drive failing before an array has rebuilt |
| [06:35:08] | Elv13_: | I am a student, I can't spend too much |
| [06:35:23] | kormoc: | justinh: they are just fine if you buy the right hardware, pci-e 8x controllers can handle a nice pile of drives quite easily |
| [06:35:25] | justinh: | you're a student, so you should eat sawdust & drink tapwater |
| [06:35:27] | Elv13_: | 200$ = 1 month of food |
| [06:35:49] | kormoc: | justinh: it's not the bus speed slowing down rebuild speeds typically it's the actual drive speeds |
| [06:36:01] | justinh: | ah |
| [06:36:06] | kormoc: | justinh: 100 mb/s write speed is very slow when dealing with multiple T's |
| [06:36:15] | wagnerrp: | justinh: yeah, my raid rebuilds went from 5hrs with 300GB drives, to 15hrs with 750GB drives |
| [06:36:17] | justinh: | anybody doing raid at home is a file squirrel anyway |
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| [06:36:37] | justinh: | backup, sure. but raid? |
| [06:36:41] | Elv13_: | Losing data is frustrating |
| [06:36:42] | luux: | why do you rebuild? |
| [06:36:47] | justinh: | so back it up |
| [06:37:00] | justinh: | raid doesn't stop stuff getting corrupted or deleted accidentally |
| [06:37:01] | kormoc: | luux: failed drives? expanding the array? replacing drives? |
| [06:37:01] | wagnerrp: | luux: its a necessary process when you lose a drive or expand the array |
| [06:37:18] | wagnerrp: | its something you should expect to do when running RAID |
| [06:37:19] | Elv13_: | File disapear from my file server and I don't even notice until I look for them, its why I want raid |
| [06:37:21] | justinh: | if you care *that* much |
| [06:37:51] | kormoc: | if singular files disappear, it's not a fair to call it a drive issue... |
| [06:38:06] | Elv13_: | it is, smart confirm it |
| [06:38:09] | kormoc: | justinh: I do care that much, I like having my things live no matter how many drives I lose |
| [06:38:18] | kormoc: | then toss the drive... |
| [06:38:21] | wagnerrp: | SMART doesnt know anything about your files |
| [06:38:23] | Elv13_: | those drivers are just too old, I can't trust them |
| [06:38:25] | kormoc: | if it smart fails, *STOP* using it |
| [06:38:32] | wagnerrp: | it cant confirm that files have disappeared |
| [06:38:33] | Elv13_: | but it does know about badblocks |
| [06:38:50] | ** kormoc sighs ** | |
| [06:38:52] | wagnerrp: | a bad block will cause data loss, not complete file loss |
| [06:38:54] | justinh: | in my experience a smart warning is the death knell of a HDD |
| [06:38:54] | Elv13_: | kormoc: its why I am replacing them |
| [06:39:11] | luux: | Elv13_: there something called silent corruption |
| [06:39:15] | Elv13_: | wagnerrp: and fsck will delete the file |
| [06:39:17] | kormoc: | them? Why'd you wait for multiples to fail? |
| [06:39:28] | wagnerrp: | unless that data loss occurs in your file table |
| [06:39:28] | kormoc: | Elv13_: no... it'll move it to /lost+found.... |
| [06:39:32] | wagnerrp: | and then youre in a world of hurt |
| [06:39:41] | Elv13_: | I lose them anyway! |
| [06:39:44] | wagnerrp: | fsck doesnt know anything about file corruption either |
| [06:39:47] | justinh: | and I've seen a good few HDDs. I work for a company which makes DVRs. We see a lot of failed/failing disks |
| [06:39:49] | hipitihop: | can mythvideo be used form command line ? |
| [06:39:50] | wagnerrp: | it only knows about file system corruption |
| [06:39:57] | justinh: | hipitihop: nope |
| [06:39:58] | wagnerrp: | hipitihop: no |
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| [06:40:17] | wagnerrp: | you *can* use the telnet interface, and give mythtv a file to play |
| [06:40:22] | wagnerrp: | but thats not quite the same thing |
| [06:40:28] | justinh: | if this is gonna be a whine about not being able to scan for changes automagically, you is needing JAMU |
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| [06:40:39] | luux: | lol the new marketing calls 5400RMP 'Eco Green' |
| [06:40:45] | justinh: | and >= 0.22 |
| [06:40:54] | wagnerrp: | luux: what would you call it? |
| [06:41:09] | Elv13_: | bottelneck? |
| [06:41:22] | wagnerrp: | they use less than half the power of typical 7200rpm drives |
| [06:41:37] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: well, why bother looking at the power usage/etc before making broad claims about hilarity |
| [06:41:41] | hipitihop: | wagnerrp, just trying to follow wiki to see how to import my new mkv file |
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| [06:41:49] | wagnerrp: | and still push sufficient bandwidth to bottleneck that PCI bus |
| [06:41:54] | luux: | I'd call it simply 5400RPM |
| [06:41:57] | kormoc: | Elv13_: and so they're not for you, still not fair to claim they're worthless for everyone/every usage case |
| [06:42:23] | kormoc: | luux: cause it doesn't use less power then the other, cheaper 5400 RPM drives? |
| [06:42:29] | wagnerrp: | luux: they generally dont run 5400rpm, the seagates are 5900rpm and the WDs are unspecified |
| [06:42:30] | Elv13_: | kormoc: I am not claiming that, I just bought one for my laptop (500gb) |
| [06:42:36] | kormoc: | cause, it does afterall |
| [06:43:17] | luux: | when I add a third drive to my raid btrfs it needs to rebuild itself? |
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| [06:43:32] | wagnerrp: | luux: if youre using anything other than JBOD, yes |
| [06:43:57] | wagnerrp: | its taking that two drives worth of data, and spreading it back out over three drives |
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| [06:44:38] | wagnerrp: | however since it knows about the filesystem, at least you *shouldnt* have to spend the time reinitializing the new space |
| [06:44:54] | luux: | aha |
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| [06:45:23] | wagnerrp: | you should probably do some reading up on RAID, before jumping head first into it with all your data |
| [06:45:36] | kormoc: | cause having drive data that is invalid is great for doing file integrity checks on it... |
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| [06:45:56] | kormoc: | (It does zero the extra data, as it's the only way to have valid checksums on the full device) |
| [06:46:13] | wagnerrp: | but it shouldnt care about the device |
| [06:46:31] | wagnerrp: | it should only care about data that it knows about |
| [06:46:50] | wagnerrp: | as opposed to traditional raid where it has to assume the entire drive has data |
| [06:46:54] | kormoc: | afaik, it does, as when it scans for missing files outside of the tables, it runs into a ton of invalid data and doesn't know if it's from files needing recovery or just empty data |
| [06:47:50] | wagnerrp: | but files should never go missing, as the file table should never be in an inconsistent state |
| [06:48:38] | wagnerrp: | but 'never' is probably just a hopeful dream |
| [06:48:56] | kormoc: | Sure, but if the journal says it's writing to section x and it's invalid as that write never happened, it scans the location and comes up with mismatching checksums, is that a bad drive or is it just bad data? |
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| [06:49:31] | wagnerrp: | btrfs isnt journalling is it? |
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| [06:50:17] | wagnerrp: | i thought it was COW, where updates are done in full, and then the inodes are swapped in the file table |
| [06:50:51] | wagnerrp: | no need for journalling, no need for fscking |
| [06:51:05] | wagnerrp: | you just end up with non-zero data where the file system expects there to be nothing |
| [06:51:21] | kormoc: | hrm, how's it handle the metadata checksum updates then? They're not stored in the file table, as they're block level |
| [06:52:06] | wagnerrp: | i dont know, i just believe what they tell me in the zfs manual |
| [06:52:13] | ** wagnerrp goes to get some more kool-aid ** | |
| [06:52:35] | kormoc: | ahh, "A temporary per-subvolumn log tree is created to journal....", from wikipedia |
| [06:52:38] | kormoc: | they still journal |
| [06:53:26] | kormoc: | and they replay on next commit or remount |
| [06:53:44] | wagnerrp: | well whatever it does, its damned fast |
| [06:54:32] | luux: | OMG!!! almost colossal mistake!! |
| [06:54:33] | kormoc: | But yeah, it runs into the same problem, on reply of that journal, how does it know if the data or the drive is bad if it's not 'known' to be valid historically? |
| [06:54:44] | luux: | thanks all for this discussion just realized something. |
| [06:55:12] | wagnerrp: | btrfs is still experimental, and the devs tell you not to use it? |
| [06:55:46] | luux: | no, I didn't do full raid -m raid0 is just metadata, I forgot to add -d raid0 |
| [06:55:46] | kormoc: | it's overkill for a pvr? |
| [06:56:20] | luux: | well I got other stuff. |
| [06:56:37] | luux: | besides I want to run a network backup. |
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| [06:57:19] | kormoc: | it's bad to keep the two together, typical pvr usage is hard on drives, constant reading and writing, if you want to store data longterm, it's better to not abuse the drives, so it's better to keep them apart |
| [06:57:55] | wagnerrp: | yeah, keep your recordings to independent drives |
| [06:58:06] | wagnerrp: | if you want redundancy, migrate them over later |
| [06:58:54] | wagnerrp: | a simple cronjob, or even a userjob set to run after recording, can shuffle them over to the array and flip the necessary storage group field |
| [07:01:40] | defaultro: | by the way, I went to Comcast office today and asked for the free hd adapter. They didn't give me because they said that I'm on basic cable. Is that correct? |
| [07:02:00] | kormoc: | defaultro: look at your bill? |
| [07:02:09] | wagnerrp: | they can set up their plans however they like |
| [07:02:25] | defaultro: | kormoc, look for what? |
| [07:02:35] | kormoc: | defaultro: the plan you're paying for? |
| [07:02:41] | defaultro: | it's basic |
| [07:02:54] | defaultro: | the cheapest plan |
| [07:03:05] | wagnerrp: | basic cable, analog only, and only the local channels |
| [07:03:14] | defaultro: | yep |
| [07:03:17] | wagnerrp: | why would you get the DTA needed for standard digital? |
| [07:03:30] | defaultro: | it's free right |
| [07:03:34] | wagnerrp: | its for channels you werent even paying for before they took them away |
| [07:03:37] | kormoc: | for HD Subscribers |
| [07:03:44] | defaultro: | oh |
| [07:04:02] | kormoc: | and only if that specific franchise is taking part of the program |
| [07:04:09] | defaultro: | i thought that they will be getting rid of all their analog so that these DTAs are needed |
| [07:04:33] | kormoc: | it's up to each franchise if they are or aren't and the timeline they might in and if they're giving adapters away or not |
| [07:04:35] | defaultro: | this way, we won't get affected by that change. THat's what I thought |
| [07:04:44] | defaultro: | got it |
| [07:04:45] | luux: | I don't have any subscription and still get HD and analog channels |
| [07:05:00] | kormoc: | luux: and you won't speak of it again in here |
| [07:05:07] | defaultro: | luux, how? OTA? |
| [07:05:12] | wagnerrp: | you still get them because its cheaper to let you do so than install scramblers on your line |
| [07:05:27] | defaultro: | of course |
| [07:05:35] | wagnerrp: | and theyre not going to give you a free DTA to encourage it |
| [07:05:42] | luux: | uh? I am not doing nothing illegal. |
| [07:05:52] | luux: | that's how the building is set up. |
| [07:06:01] | defaultro: | luux, you lucky |
| [07:06:28] | luux: | oh, lol. I thought every cable out there had all this stuff. |
| [07:06:39] | kormoc: | luux: doesn't matter if you feel it's legal or not (thief of service), it's a unwelcome topic in here unless it's something like FTA/OTA/Other fully legal sources |
| [07:06:43] | defaultro: | i'm thinking of buying the r5000 kit once I subscribe to DN |
| [07:07:21] | luux: | alright. |
| [07:07:27] | ** kormoc also believes that the r5000 mod kit is a unwelcome topic in here too, as it's legal status isn't known yet ** | |
| [07:07:44] | defaultro: | oh, wasn't aware |
| [07:08:24] | luux: | defaultro: so, without paying when you connect your cable there's absolutely no output? |
| [07:08:49] | defaultro: | I didn't understand what you are asking. Please rephrase |
| [07:09:04] | kormoc: | luux: he's a cable subscriber, your question makes no sense |
| [07:09:38] | kormoc: | and again, talking about service theft isn't welcome in here |
| [07:09:59] | luux: | k |
| [07:10:50] | ** luux teatime with bread and cheese ** | |
| [07:14:12] | itscrimetime2: | defaultro isn't r5000 kit hd kit |
| [07:14:45] | defaultro: | yes, from what I've read, it's a kit |
| [07:15:05] | wagnerrp: | its a module that hooks into the encoded data stream after leaving the CAM... and as kormoc stated, legally gray area, not welcome talk in here |
| [07:19:09] | itscrimetime2: | oh i see |
| [07:23:47] | justdave: | can someone with privs in trac reopen ticket 7629 for me? |
| [07:24:50] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [07:24:51] | wagnerrp: | it shouldnt be reopened unless you want to submit a patch |
| [07:25:04] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, its just a difference of opinion |
| [07:25:32] | justdave: | I don't know the code to be able to do that, and someone else might, but would never have the idea if they don't see the ticket |
| [07:25:45] | wagnerrp: | trac is not for feature requests |
| [07:25:52] | lyricnz: | Any idea why I can channel-scan for a bunch of channels here, works fine, but can't view/record in mythtv itself? Presumably some kind of dvb/linuxtv issue – but... scanning works fine?!?! |
| [07:25:54] | wagnerrp: | if you have one, there are several pages on the wiki for those |
| [07:25:54] | kormoc: | there's a feature request page on the wiki for that |
| [07:26:06] | justdave: | ok, that's getting somewhere then... ok, wiki. I'll head there. :) thanks |
| [07:26:23] | wagnerrp: | there should be a request already for the sort-by-date thing |
| [07:26:29] | justdave: | a lot of other projects keep the feature requests in their bug tracker so I'm just used to that |
| [07:27:08] | kormoc: | justdave: well, you just said why we don't (Bug Tracker) |
| [07:27:34] | wagnerrp: | i could see a system useful for cataloging and discussion on feature requests, but like kormoc said, it should never be part of a 'bug tracker' |
| [07:27:35] | justdave: | someone people have a lose definition of bug, because that's just what the tracker calls it :) |
| [07:28:20] | iamlindoro: | Having a list of feature requests is like having a list of women I'd like to have sleep with me |
| [07:28:39] | wagnerrp: | why would you need a list, theyre already in your basement |
| [07:28:57] | iamlindoro: | crawlspace, but I forgive you for the mistake |
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| [07:31:41] | skimj: | is anyone using jamu.py to download information only but not artwork? I've tried the -I switch; in the .conf I've set data_flags: E (meta data only), and I've set all of the artwork data flags to FALSE. In any case, when I run the script (still in simulation with -s) it simulates downloading the various artwork. |
| [07:32:03] | skimj: | RDV_Linux: any insight? |
| [07:32:05] | justdave: | found it, thanks for the pointer guys. |
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| [07:43:24] | kormoc: | wagnerrp: the basement is full of the ones he already slept with |
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| [07:46:14] | iamlindoro: | Who decided, of all the friends on Family Guy, that Cleveland was worth of a show? |
| [07:46:14] | wagnerrp: | ah, my mistake |
| [07:46:21] | iamlindoro: | Quagmire would be so much more interesting |
| [07:46:31] | iamlindoro: | The Cleveland Show is awful |
| [07:46:32] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: and illegal to show in 49 states |
| [07:46:36] | ** iamlindoro deletes that rule ** | |
| [07:46:49] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, but that last state would have such a fun time |
| [07:47:05] | justinh: | so it's naaaaaaaaaaaaaasty then? ;-) |
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| [07:47:14] | iamlindoro: | Giggity |
| [07:47:40] | wagnerrp: | yeah, The Quagmire Show couldnt be played, and The (whos the cripple cop?) Show would fail, because no one wants to watch a show about cripples |
| [07:47:47] | iamlindoro: | Joe |
| [07:47:49] | wagnerrp: | just look how quickly MANTIS failed |
| [07:48:01] | justinh: | a Stewie based show could work |
| [07:48:27] | wagnerrp: | stewie and brian on a road trip maybe? |
| [07:48:40] | justinh: | only if they don't ****ing sing |
| [07:48:56] | justinh: | no wait that's a requirement. I forgot |
| [07:48:58] | wagnerrp: | on a trek to track down and kill the doctor |
| [07:49:15] | justinh: | wish I'd not watched the 100th episode special thingy |
| [07:49:50] | justinh: | I think it was supposed to be lame but if so, what a waste |
| [07:52:12] | iamlindoro: | I think the hardest I have ever laughed in my whole life is the episode where they all drip ipecac and see who can go the longest without puking |
| [07:52:24] | iamlindoro: | And I mean *every* *single* *time* I see it, I am in tears |
| [07:52:25] | justinh: | heh |
| [07:52:34] | iamlindoro: | s/drip/drink/ |
| [07:52:36] | justinh: | almost sets me off, that one |
| [07:52:59] | wagnerrp: | i had stopped watching before that episode |
| [07:53:09] | wagnerrp: | must have, i dont remember seeing it |
| [07:53:39] | justinh: | I swear I'm gonna find everybody who made undersized or wrong aspect cover art & I'll execute every motherloving last one of them |
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| [07:54:46] | iamlindoro: | http://www.hulu.com/watch/43220/family-guy-puke-contest |
| [07:54:48] | iamlindoro: | Amazing |
| [07:54:57] | wagnerrp: | yeah, watching it currently |
| [07:55:49] | wagnerrp: | man, i havent felt that way in a long time |
| [08:00:11] | wagnerrp: | ok, so i have some 200 or so lines of python, dedicated to managing the cross reference tables (people, videocast, ...) |
| [08:00:19] | wagnerrp: | watch those all get reworked for 0.23 |
| [08:00:38] | iamlindoro: | videocast hurts my head |
| [08:00:46] | iamlindoro: | I was working on the code surrounding it this week |
| [08:00:51] | iamlindoro: | every time I do, I give up within an hour |
| [08:01:13] | iamlindoro: | So I've decided the best way to deal with it is pretend the code doesn't exist and write my own from scratch |
| [08:02:12] | wagnerrp: | i was trying to write a class to manage it, such that i could provide a couple variables, and subclass it for all instances of that type of thing |
| [08:02:58] | wagnerrp: | but managing both recordedcredits (which has extra data), and videometadata* (which dont) is a complete CF |
| [08:03:01] | iamlindoro: | FWIW, I probably *am* going to rewrite that bit and expand it to include role, image, and possibly a host that the image is stored on |
| [08:03:49] | iamlindoro: | don't know if it will be by .23, but it's a distinct possibility |
| [08:04:22] | wagnerrp: | assuming its still two separate fields, that should continue to work |
| [08:05:26] | wagnerrp: | although right now, it can not manage more than one copy of a person/genre/whatever |
| [08:05:56] | wagnerrp: | ill have to come up with some hash function for the data, or some completely different manner of holding the data |
| [08:06:59] | wagnerrp: | reading the data isnt bad at all, its the code to generically add and remove entries |
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| [09:56:35] | leoncamel: | hey. folks, is there any use mythtv as a DLNA media server ? |
| [09:58:01] | tank-man: | yea, works with my ps3 |
| [09:59:17] | leoncamel: | tank-man: so, how to setup it as a media server ? does mythtv support transcoding ? |
| [10:00:29] | tank-man: | I don't think it does transcode the videos |
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| [10:03:32] | leoncamel: | tank-man: hmm, what kind of format does ps3 support ? for example, mpegts ? or specific size ? |
| [10:04:30] | leoncamel: | tank-man: I want setup a free DLNA server for my Sony Bravia. |
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| [11:18:31] | Navy: | Hey there |
| [11:19:16] | Navy: | Can anyone tell me, why MythMusic can't find mp3 which are tagged with utf8-Strings? |
| [11:19:36] | Navy: | For example, the database does not contain songs from "Tiësto" |
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| [11:25:50] | orogor: | hi here |
| [11:28:25] | justinh: | Navy: MythMusic has taste, maybe? :-P |
| [11:29:01] | ** justinh is more of a fan of Corsten ** | |
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| [11:29:03] | Navy: | nah, otherwise it wouldnt play neither rock or metal |
| [11:29:28] | orogor: | when i looked at it a few months ago i couldn t transcode the files i was recoding |
| [11:29:51] | Navy: | And van Buuren is playing perfectly :) |
| [11:29:52] | orogor: | i record dvb-t and freebox iptv |
| [11:30:15] | orogor: | were there some change in that so that now i can start removing commericials? |
| [11:30:36] | Navy: | home |
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| [11:30:49] | justinh: | I thought Van Buuren was supposed to have an accent in there |
| [11:30:49] | Navy: | wrong window :) |
| [11:31:03] | Navy: | Nah, just Armin van Buuren |
| [11:31:05] | justinh: | Navy: running 0.22 ? |
| [11:31:39] | Navy: | Yes |
| [11:31:43] | Navy: | 22594 |
| [11:31:47] | Navy: | Mythbuntu |
| [11:34:45] | Navy: | mythtv# |
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| [12:05:55] | sid3windr: | justinh: oh, but he has an accent.. a dutch one :> |
| [12:06:15] | justinh: | heh |
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| [12:39:35] | MartinJT: | anyone around? |
| [12:39:48] | justinh: | nope |
| [12:39:58] | MartinJT: | haha... |
| [12:40:12] | MartinJT: | my connection keeps silently dropping... |
| [12:41:53] | MartinJT: | having a problem with "Scan for Changes" in mythvideo... |
| [12:42:07] | MartinJT: | it's crashing myth completely... |
| [12:42:11] | MartinJT: | everytime |
| [12:42:18] | oobe: | you mean your lan connection? |
| [12:42:56] | MartinJT: | don't know what it is with the connection... not really a problem.... |
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| [12:44:15] | oobe: | MartinJT, i dont think you understand how vague you are being |
| [12:44:38] | MartinJT: | http://pastebin.com/m5dc595c2 |
| [12:44:44] | MartinJT: | that's the mythfrontend log... |
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| [12:45:27] | Greek-Boy: | the backend keeps the frontends settings in its database? How does it recognize each frontend? by hostname? |
| [12:45:35] | sid3windr: | yes |
| [12:46:17] | MartinJT: | basically, when I do "Scan for changes" in MythVideo on .22... myth crashes... |
| [12:46:44] | MartinJT: | everytime... |
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| [12:52:06] | MartinJT: | oobe, is that any better| |
| [12:52:12] | MartinJT: | ? |
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| [12:53:40] | oobe: | thats better |
| [12:54:14] | oobe: | check your frontend logs |
| [12:54:24] | oobe: | paste bin them |
| [12:54:39] | MartinJT: | i did... they're in the pastebin I mentioned... |
| [12:54:45] | oobe: | oh |
| [12:56:18] | oobe: | looks like you found a bug |
| [12:56:38] | oobe: | i dont scan for changes on remote frontend i have a frontend on my backend aswell which i use |
| [12:56:52] | Greek-Boy: | i think i also found a bug in mythvideo |
| [12:56:58] | oobe: | plus i dont use storage groups for mythvideo so i havent come accross this |
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| [12:57:09] | Greek-Boy: | if a title contains : then it doesn't retrieve the metadata from imdb |
| [12:57:16] | Greek-Boy: | i also cant seem to add it by using the imdb id |
| [12:57:17] | Greek-Boy: | :-( |
| [12:57:59] | oobe: | MartinJT, i would check if there is a ticket and make one if you cant find it |
| [12:58:00] | MartinJT: | hmmm... what do you think is the best course of action now| |
| [12:58:16] | MartinJT: | already checked for tickets... |
| [12:58:21] | oobe: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/newticket |
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| [15:04:08] | orogor: | if i go to tuner status , it says that theres an error , but how do i find whih error ? |
| [15:04:27] | Greek-Boy: | does MythVideo have a limit of the number of videos it can hold in the DB? |
| [15:04:33] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [15:04:46] | wagnerrp: | orogor: check your backend logs |
| [15:04:49] | Greek-Boy: | nice |
| [15:05:06] | orogor: | HttpComms::done() – NetworkOperation Error on Finish: No server set to connect to (1): url: '/home/orogor/.xmltv/playlistTV.m3u |
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| [15:08:59] | orogor: | wagnerrp, weirdo error considering the file is local readable by everyone and that as working before |
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| [15:32:37] | simcop2387: | i have got to say after finally getting the time to upgrade to 0.22 that i am INCREDIBLY impressed with how much more responsive the UI is and how much nicer a lot of it looks |
| [15:33:19] | wagnerrp: | that responsiveness was actually very late into development |
| [15:33:28] | wagnerrp: | a bit of last minute threading into the UI code |
| [15:33:55] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt actually run faster, it just has the effect of not blocking |
| [15:34:49] | wagnerrp: | (well it does run faster on SMP machines) |
| [15:35:01] | orogor: | wagnerrp, any other idea to diagnose the iptv issue? |
| [15:35:09] | wagnerrp: | no idea, never used it |
| [15:35:32] | orogor: | ic an guess htis is dues to a syntax issue , but it doesn t report which one |
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| [15:35:46] | orogor: | the error isn t very clear |
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| [15:39:24] | simcop2387: | wagnerrp: it certainly increases the APAF (aging parents acceptance factor) |
| [15:40:20] | Dibblah: | orogor: Looks like it's expecting a URL, rather than a path to a playlist. |
| [15:47:04] | orogor: | well that used to work beore |
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| [16:11:32] | MartinJT: | wagnerrp, don't suppose you know if anyone had chance to look into that issue last night do you? |
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| [16:54:02] | orogor: | .... ok ythe whole myth channel setup is brok now |
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| [17:17:24] | jarle: | in 0.22 when open program guide, it always start in "All programs" and not the program group I have set as default? |
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| [17:21:46] | jarle: | Any suggestions for a theme that will let me display as many channels as possible in the program guide BTW? |
| [17:30:51] | orogor: | does the channel icon idenification works, i mean i identify the icons , then it says it upload data to mythtv server, is that data actually reused? |
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| [17:33:32] | justinh: | jarle: nope |
| [17:33:43] | justinh: | jarle: edit one yerself |
| [17:34:17] | jarle: | justinh: blutoobe used to be good in this erea.... |
| [17:34:32] | justinh: | was it ever good? lol |
| [17:35:23] | justinh: | anyway the only way you're gonna get more channels in the EPG is by editing it yourself. Nobody has allocated space or area sizes for more than 6 or 7 AFAIK |
| [17:36:02] | justinh: | not even concept, my new theme will feature many. I think it only has 5 actually |
| [17:36:21] | orogor: | got 400 channels |
| [17:36:40] | orogor: | edited about 100 manually , took the full day , just losed the conf |
| [17:36:40] | justinh: | oo no it's 6 channels |
| [17:37:05] | orogor: | haa that you can view at one time? |
| [17:37:20] | justinh: | thing is, if you make the lines in the list too thin you have to use a diddy ickle font which ends up being hard to read |
| [17:37:58] | justinh: | and for all a lot of people have 'HD' TVs now there's STILL a size limit on text before it becomes hard to read (and therefore *pointless* ) |
| [17:38:01] | jarle: | justinh: having the listings filling the whole screen (just displaying the title) would be perfect for me. |
| [17:38:20] | iamlindoro: | and there's theme docs to help you achieve that goal |
| [17:38:30] | justinh: | in that case you could probably fit about 10 channels onscreen |
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| [17:39:14] | justinh: | me, I allocate enough room for 4 lines of description because uk XMLTV gives us essays |
| [17:39:18] | jarle: | justinh: then my wife can display all her fav channels without having to scroll the screen :) |
| [17:39:41] | justinh: | wait around for channel group filtering in the EPG then |
| [17:39:43] | jarle: | justinh: me, I use mythweb so it's not that important for me.. |
| [17:40:18] | jarle: | justinh: as far as I can see group filtering is there already? |
| [17:40:40] | justinh: | nope |
| [17:40:44] | jarle: | justinh: however it does not seem to remember the settings.. |
| [17:40:52] | justinh: | really? |
| [17:41:05] | justinh: | haven't bothered with setting channel groups yet |
| [17:41:30] | jarle: | justinh: I can tell it to only display channels from group xxx from the menu... |
| [17:42:14] | jarle: | where xxx is not a list of my porn channels :) |
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| [17:52:54] | justinh: | I only have one porn channel. THE INTERNET |
| [17:53:54] | Chewi: | hello. just upgraded to 0.22. all good except it's now using the font set in qt4config. I understand why but my desktop Qt font is a fixed size. I don't want to use this in mythfrontend. |
| [17:53:59] | Chewi: | is there any way to override the font? |
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| [18:12:28] | trinkity: | hy all |
| [18:13:46] | trinkity: | i've a problem with divx |
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| [18:13:56] | trinkity: | anyone can help me? |
| [18:14:46] | trinkity: | the frontend can't view the file .avi that i put in directory videos |
| [18:18:00] | justinh: | you need to scan for changes |
| [18:18:08] | justinh: | that's on the Menu |
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| [18:18:34] | justinh: | Menu begins with the letter M. You have a key with the same letter on it no doubt |
| [18:18:48] | justinh: | your remote might also have a 'Menu' button |
| [18:24:02] | trinkity: | i rescan but the frontend don't view the file :( |
| [18:24:19] | trinkity: | i put in /var/lib/.... and in /home/user/Video |
| [18:24:35] | trinkity: | but no file... |
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| [18:29:13] | oobe: | trinkity, find out what the actual correct path it is in mythvideo settings setup / utils / media settings / mythvideo / general |
| [18:29:38] | oobe: | the default is neither path you mentioned above |
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| [18:38:09] | Seeker`: | I have a quad core "core 2", so shouldn't be any problems with lack of process |
| [18:38:12] | Seeker`: | any suggestions on how to fix 1080p h264 playback using the internal player? |
| [18:38:24] | Seeker`: | the audio gets out of sync |
| [18:38:37] | justinh: | Seeker`: myth won't use more than one core by default |
| [18:39:18] | justinh: | and anyway the h.264 needs to be sliced or 3 of your cores can't be used |
| [18:39:47] | Seeker`: | so how can i fix the playback issues? |
| [18:40:38] | justinh: | Seeker`: dunno. I mean you've not said you looked in the playback log output yet |
| [18:40:53] | justinh: | nor have you said what video card/drivers you use |
| [18:41:29] | Seeker`: | I have an onboard nvidia 9300 |
| [18:41:40] | justinh: | and the driver you use is...? |
| [18:41:59] | Seeker`: | just checking |
| [18:42:07] | oobe: | mythfrontend -v playback |
| [18:43:57] | oobe: | http://twitter.com/FartKnocker |
| [18:46:59] | Seeker`: | in the log i get "Video is X frames behind audio (too slow) dropping frame to catch up" |
| [18:47:05] | justinh: | Seeker`: and you do know you can use VDPAU if you have enough video RAM y'know |
| [18:47:26] | Seeker`: | I tried enabling vpdau last night, didn't seem to want to do h264 with it |
| [18:47:47] | justinh: | if you use the nvidia drivers (i.e. not nv) |
| [18:48:46] | Seeker`: | it is using "nvidia" according to Xorg.conf |
| [18:48:57] | justinh: | methinks you didn't just try enabling vdpau. You failed :) |
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| [18:49:12] | somebody: | hi everybody |
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| [18:49:53] | somebody: | I have a strange sync issue: my video is ahead of the audio when watching live TV... |
| [18:49:59] | somebody: | what could cause that? |
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| [18:50:42] | justinh: | somebody: no idea. look in the output of mythfrontend -v playback for one thing |
| [18:51:12] | justinh: | somebody: and you didn't say what kind of hardware you have.. tuner type etc |
| [18:51:57] | justinh: | I suspect that the audio is ahead of the video infact, and you're using an analogue framegrabber with its audio connected to your soundcard |
| [18:52:04] | Seeker`: | justinh: how should I enable it then? |
| [18:52:36] | justinh: | Seeker`: well, you could always resort to reading the wiki about it |
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| [18:54:19] | somebody: | justinh: thanks for the suggestions... |
| [18:54:39] | somebody: | I have a framegrabber card... and the sync problem appears after a while of watching |
| [18:54:52] | justinh: | using pulseaudio huh? |
| [18:55:03] | somebody: | so when I stop the live tv and restart it then, it's not out of sync anymore ...at least for a while ;) |
| [18:55:11] | somebody: | not as far as I know |
| [18:55:23] | somebody: | and the video is really ahead of the audio |
| [18:55:27] | justinh: | you need to look in the log output. mythfrontend -v playback |
| [18:55:36] | somebody: | you see the people speaking before you hear them |
| [18:55:41] | justinh: | sounds like a pulseaudio symptom to me |
| [18:55:41] | somebody: | yes, will do that in a second |
| [18:56:01] | justinh: | does the audio sound normal? |
| [18:56:09] | somebody: | yes |
| [18:57:34] | somebody: | 2009-11–22 19:57:23.129 NVP(0): Video is 3.4438 frames behind audio (too slow), dropping frame to catch up. |
| [18:57:57] | somebody: | lots of these messages |
| [18:58:07] | justinh: | loads of possible causes for that |
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| [18:58:26] | justinh: | underpowered CPU, wrong video driver, CPU freq. scaling... |
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| [18:58:43] | somebody: | hm, okay |
| [18:59:00] | Seeker`: | justinh: I selected "VPDAU normal" playback profile. Same thing happens. |
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| [19:00:00] | somebody: | justinh: I just used VNC to remote-control my mythtv box... |
| [19:00:12] | somebody: | now it's not open anymore and no such messages appear anymore |
| [19:00:21] | somebody: | I'll wait for other types of messages |
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| [19:01:52] | Seeker`: | it would seem that me reading the wiki page and the instructions not working makes me a noob. |
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| [19:04:45] | somebody: | justinh: okay, the sync problem appeared again |
| [19:04:53] | Seeker`: | somebody: he left |
| [19:04:56] | somebody: | uh |
| [19:04:58] | somebody: | thanks ;) |
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| [19:29:52] | _abbenormal: | hey guys has anyone had an issue with the hdhomerun segfaulting on scans |
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| [19:31:50] | [R]: | the device is segfaulting? thats cool |
| [19:32:10] | _abbenormal: | no its not cool |
| [19:32:27] | [R]: | i'm making a joke... because it makes absoutely no sense |
| [19:32:27] | _abbenormal: | think ive not got something configed right |
| [19:32:33] | _abbenormal: | i know |
| [19:32:59] | _abbenormal: | with mythubuntu it does fine but a fresh debian build its doing this strange |
| [19:33:15] | [R]: | so get a backtrace and file a bug report |
| [19:34:13] | _abbenormal: | not done doing a few other test yet but if i cannt get it to work then ill file something |
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| [19:35:36] | _abbenormal: | think its something simple but have not found it yet always is with me |
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| [19:45:58] | michaelm: | Has anyone experienced a problem where the channel guide shows up behind the video on the frontend. |
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| [19:49:32] | luux: | sup |
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| [19:49:49] | luux: | what's a IR blaster? |
| [19:50:29] | luux: | I know this guy with a box with s-video out. can I use that for viewing and recording on mythtv? |
| [19:50:58] | luux: | hello? |
| [19:51:17] | [R]: | an ir blaster lets the computer send ir signals |
| [19:51:21] | luux: | for that I don't need tuner right? |
| [19:51:29] | [R]: | you need something with an svideo input |
| [19:51:30] | luux: | oh. hot. |
| [19:51:47] | luux: | well the box got an IR input. |
| [19:52:15] | luux: | I guess a low-end tuner card then. |
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| [19:52:59] | luux: | so how does the computer connect to the IR in the box? |
| [19:53:13] | luux: | usb <-> ir L |
| [19:53:31] | michaelm: | Is the channel guide showing up properly for anyone on the .22 frontend? |
| [19:54:04] | [R]: | it doestn "connect" to the ir |
| [19:54:07] | [R]: | the blaster sends ir |
| [19:54:21] | [R]: | michaelm: no... it doesnt work for anyone... tahts why they released it |
| [19:55:01] | Elv13_: | michaelm: not me, the PIP does not work |
| [19:55:11] | Elv13_: | but the guide does |
| [19:55:26] | Elv13_: | and sometime the pip work and not the guide |
| [19:55:35] | michaelm: | I'm tried it on 4 different machines. 2 Linux, and 2 OS X and the guide doesn't work on any of them. |
| [19:55:55] | [R]: | sounds like the common theme here is you |
| [19:55:55] | luux: | so how dose the computer send IR to the box? |
| [19:56:01] | [R]: | luux: with an ir blaster... |
| [19:56:05] | michaelm: | When I go to the guide is that actually rendered by the backend? Or does the frontend generate it? |
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| [19:56:28] | [R]: | the backend doesn't do anything in related to things being displeyd on the forntend |
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| [19:58:31] | michaelm: | So the backend just sends the raw guide data, then the frontend renders/displays it? |
| [19:58:36] | luux: | s-out from the box to mythtv. In other words grab content from the S-video cable. that's not programmable. |
| [19:58:48] | [R]: | the backend doesnt send anyhting |
| [19:59:11] | michaelm: | So the frontend downloads the guide data on it's own directly? |
| [19:59:11] | luux: | but it does switch channels etc. |
| [19:59:39] | [R]: | the frontend doesnt download anything |
| [19:59:41] | GreyFoxx: | The backend grabs guide data and stuff's it into the database. the frontend pulls from the database AND from the backend |
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| [20:00:18] | GreyFoxx: | and of course the FE displays what is appropriate to you |
| [20:00:21] | michaelm: | So the frontend is getting the guide data from the MySQL database? |
| [20:00:27] | GreyFoxx: | yes |
| [20:00:34] | unique: | can anyone recommend me a remote control that i can use for my mythtv? i dont use my mythtv with tv tuner.. |
| [20:00:45] | GreyFoxx: | unique: many of us like the MCE remotes |
| [20:00:48] | [R]: | unique: anything lirc supports |
| [20:00:56] | GreyFoxx: | they work very well and are simple to get running |
| [20:01:01] | luux: | so I was right. the computer DOES need to send info in order to tune. I see also a serial cable can be used. |
| [20:01:31] | michaelm: | I am just trying to figure out what the best route to troubleshoot the guide showing up behind the video. Can anyone think of anything to try besides updating to a newer version of the frontend? |
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| [20:01:57] | GreyFoxx: | michaelm: I've never seen that happen |
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| [20:02:14] | GreyFoxx: | or heard o fit happenning |
| [20:02:33] | GreyFoxx: | I assume you are in LiveTV pulling up the guide? |
| [20:02:43] | michaelm: | Yup |
| [20:02:47] | michaelm: | I pressed the s key in live TV |
| [20:02:50] | GreyFoxx: | How can you tell the guide is behind the video? Can you see the edges of it or something ? |
| [20:03:18] | michaelm: | Yeah, when I am watching video in 4:3 and bring up the guide I see the guide in the left and right side of my screen. |
| [20:03:38] | michaelm: | Also if I press the up/down keys (that normally change the channel) I don't see the channels changing. |
| [20:03:52] | michaelm: | If I press escape to exit the guide I can change channels again. |
| [20:03:53] | GreyFoxx: | what sort of video card ? |
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| [20:04:17] | GreyFoxx: | Normally the video window gets resized to a "mini" preview like iwndow in the corner of the guide |
| [20:04:25] | GreyFoxx: | If that fails you could see what you describe |
| [20:04:47] | michaelm: | It is happening to me on 4 different computers. 2 Linux, 2 OS X. And different video cards too. NVidia, ATI Radeon, and built in. |
| [20:05:08] | michaelm: | Is there any way to easily disable the "mini preview" |
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| [20:05:22] | GreyFoxx: | I find it odd that I've not heard of anyone running into that but you have it on such a variety of stuff |
| [20:05:34] | GreyFoxx: | I think that element is defined by the theme |
| [20:05:46] | GreyFoxx: | You might be able to remove the element from the theme altogether |
| [20:06:12] | michaelm: | Is the theme easy to edit? Is it just an xml file or something? |
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| [20:06:34] | GreyFoxx: | yeah they are XML files. I don't know offhand what you would need to edit specifically though |
| [20:06:37] | GreyFoxx: | are you running 0.22 ? |
| [20:06:40] | michaelm: | Yeah |
| [20:06:43] | GreyFoxx: | k |
| [20:06:44] | iamlindoro: | schedule-ui.xml |
| [20:06:54] | michaelm: | Thanks iamlindoro |
| [20:06:57] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [20:07:07] | iamlindoro: | (in the theme dir of the theme you are using) |
| [20:07:32] | iamlindoro: | specifically, the element "<imagetype name="video">" |
| [20:07:34] | GreyFoxx: | hmm I should go clean up my kitchen to get supper started |
| [20:07:47] | iamlindoro: | Dunno if it'll let you open it at all without that element, though |
| [20:07:56] | iamlindoro: | as it may well be required |
| [20:09:48] | michaelm: | Hmm actually before I edit maybe I'll try changing the theme. |
| [20:09:55] | michaelm: | Maybe the theme is just messed up. |
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| [20:11:59] | michaelm: | Hmm something else interesting. I think this might only be happening in channels that are in HD. |
| [20:12:30] | michaelm: | Cause the guide worked while I was in an SD channel. But when I switched to an HD channel it wouldn't resize the video again. Let me do a little more testing to verify it though. |
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| [20:16:56] | michaelm: | I think the problem might actually be the PIP not the guide. |
| [20:16:58] | functor: | hi, it seems mythtv is moving my rotor to the wrong place (when using xdipo I move it for example to 13 E and I can lock on a channel properly) |
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| [20:17:17] | functor: | but when loading mythtv-setup, it makes it go all the way to the left |
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| [20:25:07] | bdale: | chasing a weird one. intel-based mac mini, Debian squeeze, 0.22 built as a frontend. playing a DVD in mythvideo's optical drive mode with internal player works fine until you hit fast-forward, then audio goes away. anyone seen this and have some idea what to look for? |
| [20:26:29] | functor: | nm, broke the positions which fixed it somehow |
| [20:26:50] | functor: | although it crashes without taskset -c 0 |
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| [20:36:18] | iamlindoro: | Holy crapgasm! I just got Comedy Central HD, yay! |
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| [20:36:39] | iamlindoro: | Now all they need to do is convery Daily Show and Colbert to HD |
| [20:37:56] | kormoc: | Anyone want a google wave invite? |
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| [20:39:20] | ** iamlindoro thinks he "waved" at kormoc the other day ** | |
| [20:39:32] | DarK``_: | kormoc: yes pls, I do! :) |
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| [20:39:51] | kormoc: | pm me your email address |
| [20:39:54] | iamlindoro: | I still don't get the point of it |
| [20:39:55] | kormoc: | iamlindoro: aye, you did |
| [20:41:24] | kormoc: | We use it at work to send those goof off links around and the like |
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| [20:42:09] | iamlindoro: | Scotchy scotch scotch, I love scotch |
| [20:43:59] | kormoc: | Mmm... Vodka and pancakes... |
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| [20:44:36] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, I ate like a half pound of bacon for breakfast |
| [20:44:45] | iamlindoro: | delicious pepper bacon, from my butcher, not from a package |
| [20:44:52] | kormoc: | Lucky man! I'm out of bacon |
| [20:45:00] | iamlindoro: | I have HD networks I've never even heard of all of a sudden |
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| [20:45:04] | iamlindoro: | TV One HD |
| [20:45:06] | iamlindoro: | ?? |
| [20:51:23] | iamlindoro: | The Weather Channel HD... there's a must watch |
| [20:52:21] | kormoc: | Ooh, I archive that one |
| [20:52:55] | kormoc: | Mmm... Nothing like weather center 12-04–02... |
| [20:54:29] | iamlindoro: | Comcast turned on 84 new HD channels in my market, gulp |
| [20:54:48] | iamlindoro: | If they do this kinda crap they might actually make the service seem worth it, and then what will I have left? |
| [20:58:55] | iamlindoro: | However.... |
| [20:59:00] | iamlindoro: | The Tennis Channel... |
| [20:59:05] | iamlindoro: | MSNBC University HD... |
| [20:59:21] | iamlindoro: | Women's entertainment HD |
| [21:00:05] | slayven: | kormoc: do you still have a wave invite? |
| [21:00:19] | slayven: | kormoc: can I get one please? |
| [21:00:26] | ** iamlindoro has 8 ** | |
| [21:00:35] | kormoc: | toss me a email |
| [21:00:40] | kormoc: | (address that is) |
| [21:01:44] | elmojo: | iamlindoro: you get all those new HD channels via firewire? |
| [21:01:53] | iamlindoro: | Hahahahah: http://www.lyngsat-logo.com/download.html?ima . . . t/ten_sexsee |
| [21:02:04] | iamlindoro: | elmojo, Nah, but the two HD-PVRs should handle them :) |
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| [21:02:07] | laga_: | :) |
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| [21:04:08] | iamlindoro: | All these great icons with transparency are a reason I look forward to a totally themable guide widget |
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| [21:15:51] | iamlindoro: | Going and hunting down all these PNG icons is brutal, we've got to get the script on services fixed to hunt down transparent icons when possible |
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| [21:39:55] | akv: | is it possible to see what bitrate a stream is using on a dvb-c tuner in myth? |
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| [21:44:51] | backslash7: | Hi there – So I was told channel scanning for analogue tv cards (PVR-350 for me) is out of order in 0.22. I installed xmltv, set up my card as ivtv (just like the wiki said) and assigned the tv channel grabber for Switzerland to my cards tuner 1. However, in "Input Connections" I am unable to neither "Scan for channels" nor "Fetch channels from listings source". What am I missing? Thanks in advance! |
| [21:45:44] | Greek-Boy: | is it illegal to use a softcam even if you have a paytv card? |
| [21:46:05] | backslash7: | One more thing, I tried running tv_grab_ch_search myself and after about half an hour or so I got a couple of channels – Nothing like that happened during mythtv-setup. Hope this helps. |
| [21:48:20] | kormoc: | Greek-Boy: it's not a allowed topic in here |
| [21:48:39] | Greek-Boy: | kormoc: right... |
| [21:48:45] | Greek-Boy: | thanks |
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| [21:52:02] | backslash7: | Anyone, please? I've been digging through wikis, howtos and documentations for hours now, just like last week and I just can't make it work. It worked like a charm in 0.21 with automatic scanning... |
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| [21:59:14] | backslash7: | I'm just running the grabber myself right now and dumping the data into a XML file, to be used with mythfilldatabase if that's okay. This could take some time -.- |
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| [22:09:06] | pyther: | Hmm... |
| [22:09:14] | pyther: | I can't lock into a dtv channel |
| [22:09:33] | pyther: | it just flexes (60%-99%) o_o |
| [22:11:09] | pyther: | Hmm that's odd, I turned on my other tv and it works now o_o |
| [22:13:14] | pyther: | Is there anyway to view the current signal strength? |
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| [22:17:14] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: is that a grabber for your EPG? |
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| [22:17:55] | metalac: | every time i leave mythfrontend on and leave it for couple of hours and come back to watch either Live TV or a recording i just get a black screen. The fix is to restart mythfrontend. anyone seen similar issue? |
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| [22:18:15] | Greek-Boy: | metalac: which version? |
| [22:18:22] | metalac: | Greek-Boy: 0.22 |
| [22:18:31] | metalac: | it started happening with 0.22, 0.21 was fine |
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| [22:26:44] | Greek-Boy: | does this site open for anyone? http://opensvn.csie.org/ |
| [22:26:46] | Greek-Boy: | doesn't open for me |
| [22:28:10] | kormoc: | does for me, but is a invalid ssl cert |
| [22:28:37] | metalac: | Greek-Boy: what kormoc said |
| [22:29:10] | Greek-Boy: | for me it doesn't wanna open at all |
| [22:29:10] | Greek-Boy: | :( |
| [22:29:13] | Greek-Boy: | in firefox or ie |
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| [22:29:56] | metalac: | Greek-Boy: try going to 140.112.172.10 |
| [22:30:15] | Greek-Boy: | ok |
| [22:30:16] | Greek-Boy: | thanks |
| [22:30:20] | Greek-Boy: | :-) |
| [22:30:42] | Greek-Boy: | metalac: by the way, i once had the same problem as u in 0.21 |
| [22:30:55] | Greek-Boy: | but everything is ok in 0.22 apart from small bugs in mythvideo but nothing serious |
| [22:31:02] | Greek-Boy: | i wonder whats causing ur prob |
| [22:31:17] | metalac: | yeah i couldn't see anything the logs that looks strange |
| [22:32:38] | abqjp: | iamlindoro: do you still use your nVidia 9300 motherboard? Do you use VDPAU with it? I *really* want to be able to use VDPAU, but have issues using it with my 9400 motherboard. |
| [22:32:54] | pyther: | mythfrontend won't die when I close it |
| [22:33:06] | pyther: | when I close out of mythfrontend it runs with a 100% cpu almost |
| [22:33:20] | iamlindoro: | abqjp, Yep, that's this mobo, happily chugging along since I bought it, and with VDPAU sometimes too, yes |
| [22:33:24] | Greek-Boy: | i am using VDPAU on my acer revo (nvidia ION). It rocks... |
| [22:33:44] | dustybin: | why only sometimes? |
| [22:33:46] | backslash7: | Greek-Boy: What do you mean by is that a grabber for my EPG? |
| [22:34:01] | backslash7: | It's a grabber for my country and it's supposed to fetch channel data, EPG too yes. |
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| [22:34:16] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, because it's not a magic bullet and mangles as much as it plays |
| [22:34:34] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: ok, now i understand |
| [22:35:08] | backslash7: | Greek-Boy: :D |
| [22:35:22] | Greek-Boy: | i wish my country had a grabber :P |
| [22:35:26] | abqjp: | Even with just "simple" mpeg2, VDPAU works great for a while, and then all of a sudden I get stuttering, and the log starts filling up with " Video is 3.1346 frames behind audio (too slow)". Once that happens, the ONLY way to get smooth playback, is to reboot the computer. Even restarting X does not fix it. |
| [22:35:33] | backslash7: | Greek-Boy: Doesn't it? :O |
| [22:35:43] | backslash7: | Even Switzerland does! ;) |
| [22:36:07] | backslash7: | Greek-Boy: Do you think you can help me? |
| [22:36:26] | dustybin: | abqjp: do you get the same results when using mplayer + VDPAU ? |
| [22:36:51] | abqjp: | I don't even have mplayer installed on my mythfrontend machine. Guess I should try it. |
| [22:37:04] | dustybin: | abqjp: just use mplayer on its own |
| [22:37:12] | dustybin: | for a test |
| [22:37:27] | abqjp: | dustybin: right. Good idea. |
| [22:37:42] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: with your scanning issues? |
| [22:38:01] | backslash7: | With getting any channels at all, yes ;) |
| [22:38:15] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: yeah i live in a 3rd world country, no grabbers here :-( |
| [22:38:18] | backslash7: | I can't be the only one out there trying to watch TV using an analog TV card |
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| [22:38:22] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: your country is 1st world |
| [22:38:36] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: maybe if I return to greece some day i will have the same privilege again :P |
| [22:39:15] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: I will experiment with scanning and let u know my findings...but it won't be today |
| [22:39:27] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: Hopefully someone more experienced can help u before i get back to u |
| [22:39:33] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: But i'll try my best to troubleshoot |
| [22:40:41] | backslash7: | Okay, I hope so too. Don't worry about it I'm sure there are people who know what I'm doing wrong... I'm just fetching the latest channel listings and will try to add channel information myself |
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| [22:40:52] | backslash7: | Greek-Boy: Thanks for your effort |
| [22:41:21] | Greek-Boy: | backslash7: You're welcome, for nothing so far |
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| [22:47:03] | AndyCap: | Heh, I see someone beat mythtv to 1.0 :P http://sourceforge.net/projects/tvpvrd/ |
| [22:47:50] | AndyCap: | I guess the mythtv-in-perl-oneliner guy won't be pleased by the use of XML. :) |
| [22:50:06] | pyther: | Why would a loseless transcode fail? |
| [22:50:14] | AndyCap: | registered on sourceforge 21st, and 1.0 release the 22nd? I call shenanigans. :) |
| [22:50:20] | AndyCap: | pyther: not enough space? |
| [22:51:12] | Greek-Boy: | maybe he was developing for a long time before he registered on sourceforge? |
| [22:51:17] | pyther: | Ahh maybe |
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| [22:51:24] | AndyCap: | Greek-Boy: well, duh. |
| [22:51:31] | pyther: | Now I just have to figure out why mythfrontend hangs when I exit out of it |
| [22:52:18] | Greek-Boy: | how does linux mce compare to mythtv? |
| [22:53:05] | backslash7: | hey guys, I have a 8mb file of XML EPG data now. Do I just run mythfilldatabase --file <sourceid=1> <file=data.xml> ? |
| [22:53:12] | backslash7: | How do I know which sourceid to take? |
| [22:56:51] | backslash7: | videosource tables only has sourceid 1 of my xmlgrabber, nvm |
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| [22:59:29] | pyther: | Hmm the loseless transcode is still failing :( |
| [22:59:30] | pyther: | http://pastebin.ca/1682894 |
| [23:00:08] | pyther: | expectedPTS != expectedDTS+ptsIncrement |
| [23:00:20] | pyther: | That is in the line right before it fails |
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| [23:18:56] | backslash7: | I'm using the analog card PVR-350. I just fetched channel listings using tv_grab_ch_search and loaded it into mythfilldatabase, worked fine I see the EPG and channels in mythweb. I set channel id 1 to be the start channel. When I choose "Watch TV" it says "Please wait..." and then just exists. The log messages are basically "getentryat(-1) failed" |
| [23:19:01] | backslash7: | Any idea what's wrong? |
| [23:19:29] | backslash7: | I set the same freqid like on my real TV, C6, S15 and so on... |
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| [23:24:03] | ckw: | backslash7:whats the deal with the pvr-350 and the new mythtv that it no longer lists that specific card in the setup? |
| [23:26:58] | ckw: | i am looking for a wiki or a how to to setup the pvr-350 under myth 0.22 |
| [23:27:01] | backslash7: | honestly, I have no idea! |
| [23:27:10] | backslash7: | ckw: I had it perfectly set up with 0.21 |
| [23:27:20] | ckw: | yes as do i |
| [23:27:20] | backslash7: | installed 0.22 -> everything went south |
| [23:27:33] | backslash7: | I hate when updates mess things up... |
| [23:27:44] | ckw: | yeah...i gather that we now have to set t up as an ivtv device, yes? |
| [23:27:57] | backslash7: | That's what the wiki says, jup |
| [23:28:13] | ckw: | do you have a link to the wiki you have been using? |
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| [23:28:23] | backslash7: | Also, it's 12:30am here........ |
| [23:28:28] | backslash7: | the official one |
| [23:28:35] | backslash7: | under analogue cards -> pvr350 |
| [23:28:43] | ckw: | ooopss...i dindnt even think of tht...sorry ;-) |
| [23:28:49] | ckw: | thanks |
| [23:33:07] | jduggan: | oooh |
| [23:33:09] | jduggan: | new top gear |
| [23:33:10] | jduggan: | in HD |
| [23:33:11] | jduggan: | :D |
| [23:33:39] | backslash7: | jduggan: I'm glad mythtv works for you |
| [23:34:12] | jduggan: | thanks |
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| [23:36:16] | backslash7: | GetEntryAt(-1) failed when starting Live TV. Anybody seen this before? |
| [23:36:35] | metalac: | anyone have HDHomeRun? would there be much difference between it and PVR-2250? I'm trying to buy something new since right now I only have DCT-2600 and a pvr-150 |
| [23:40:12] | backslash7: | for fucks sake, I need to sleep. |
| [23:40:23] | backslash7: | ckw: I didn't find out anything, sorry... |
| [23:40:30] | backslash7: | Still can't watch any TV |
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| [23:41:29] | backslash7: | ckw: Good luck. Hope you get some help from anyone. |
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