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| [00:07:19] | Malard: | still cant compile, it says i lack the lame encoder, yet i've done sudo apt-get install lame |
| [00:08:51] | jherm: | So is there a patchset / known working revision that will allow MythTV to tune my HVR-1800 into analog channels without too many artifacts / loss? |
| [00:09:17] | jherm: | of v4l-dvb, the kernel, or the conexant/philips drivers in general... |
| [00:11:33] | jherm: | iamlindoro: Can you link me to the bug you were referring to? |
| [00:11:46] | iamlindoro: | jherm: There's no bugtracker |
| [00:11:53] | iamlindoro: | but it's known by the driver author |
| [00:12:24] | laga: | Malard: using ubuntu? |
| [00:13:07] | jherm: | iamlindoro: On the linuxtv wiki it says that there are reports that it has worked with Myth... should I then update the page to say that it doesn't work? |
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| [00:13:22] | iamlindoro: | jherm: The digital side works fine in myth |
| [00:13:32] | iamlindoro: | jherm: Which IIRC that portion of the wiki page refers to |
| [00:13:34] | jherm: | And thats what the mythtv wiki says |
| [00:13:57] | iamlindoro: | Yes, it works in myth. For digital. |
| [00:14:00] | jherm: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppau . . . -1800#Analog |
| [00:14:44] | jherm: | And the Myth wiki also says that NTSC doesn't work but the linuxtv.org says differently and I've found a changeset for v4l-dvb saying that the chip is supported... I was just confused about the whole situation. |
| [00:14:58] | jherm: | I'll use tvtime or xawtv if I have to, I just wanted to have a media library and a good remote set up from the get go. |
| [00:15:02] | iamlindoro: | jherm: Do what you like to their wiki. I'm clarifying the issue for you |
| [00:15:13] | iamlindoro: | Digital works, the bug in the driver prevents analog working properly in Myth |
| [00:15:17] | jherm: | I really do appreciate it. And I didn't mean to bother. |
| [00:15:34] | jherm: | So... can I change anything in MythTV to rectify the situation or work around it? |
| [00:16:04] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [00:22:55] | skd5aner: | is there anything that happens within the channel editor withing the frontend/backend/mythweb that sets xmltvid and callsign anywhere besides the individual record for that channel in the channel table? |
| [00:24:07] | skd5aner: | Curious if there's anything beyond updating the individual field in the db, and if I could do it through other methods |
| [00:24:57] | mchou: | jherm: just try NTSC out |
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| [00:25:36] | mchou: | jherm: if you have the HW already it should only take half an hour or so |
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| [00:27:20] | jherm: | mchou: I got one channel, with artifacts (looks like semi-transparent colored blocks) that ran vertically across the screen. When I tried to change channels via MythTV, I got "Irrecoverable recorder error" |
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| [00:27:54] | mchou: | jherm: what version of myth is this? |
| [00:28:08] | unimaginative: | Ok, that's stupid. I upgraded my mythbuntu install to the 9.10, and now, the lirc_mceusb2 module is missing. Instead, lirc_mceusb keeps being loaded. |
| [00:28:13] | jherm: | mchou: mythtv-0.22–0.9.rc2.fc12.x86_64 |
| [00:28:27] | iamlindoro: | jherm: That would be the aforementioned driver issue |
| [00:28:31] | jherm: | mchou: I can check the .spec file to narrow down to a revision... |
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| [00:28:37] | jherm: | Bah. :p |
| [00:28:38] | mchou: | jherm: I get irrecoverage errors too |
| [00:28:49] | luis_: | MythTV doesnt shows an icon in KDE start, whats happening |
| [00:28:57] | mchou: | and I dont even have hvr-1800 :) |
| [00:29:10] | mchou: | jherm: it's a mythtv issue |
| [00:29:20] | mchou: | (in 0.22) |
| [00:29:42] | jherm: | mchou: So... can I use 0.21 to try to avoid this bug? |
| [00:29:48] | mchou: | yup |
| [00:29:50] | iamlindoro: | jherm: No. |
| [00:29:56] | mchou: | that's what I recommend for now |
| [00:30:02] | jherm: | mchou: Thanks |
| [00:30:05] | iamlindoro: | jherm: Analog will not work with that card in MythTv, in any version, period |
| [00:30:07] | ** iamlindoro sighs ** | |
| [00:30:08] | mchou: | if you have backup of DB |
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| [00:30:17] | luis_: | MythTV doesnt shows an icon in KDE start, whats happening |
| [00:30:25] | luis_: | just installed it |
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| [00:31:49] | jherm: | iamlindoro: But I'd like to see it work. And I'll try to determine every reason why it won't work... and if it works with other applications that can tune the device, than I'm hypothesizing that it must be possible / I could add something to MythTV to fix this driver issue as a shim to fix it temporarily... |
| [00:32:07] | jherm: | And I don't see how my assumptions are not logical. |
| [00:32:16] | mchou: | jherm: I concur with you |
| [00:32:42] | mchou: | jherm: since you have HW it's no harm no foul |
| [00:33:04] | iamlindoro: | jherm: It's handling of IOctls is broken. Write to the linux-multimedia mailing list about it if you like-- while it would be possible to write some hacks into myth to hack around it, that's not something that's going to happen, and the driver author is aware of it and going to fix it |
| [00:35:31] | jherm: | I am less concerned with the right place to patch the bug, and more concerned with just getting it to work temporarily. I will continue to follow upstream code, I'd just like to start recording analog as soon as possible – that is my primary objective and I didn't mean to seem irresponsive to all your help. I will add the code if I can, and I'll try... and if I fail miserably, well... at least I tried. And if I succeed I can just |
| [00:35:31] | jherm: | provide a patch OOB and submit it to a mailing list for review, and then it is out of my hands... |
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| [00:37:37] | mchou: | jherm: yeah, jost go for it |
| [00:37:41] | mchou: | just* |
| [00:38:18] | jherm: | I'll come back if I do end up getting it to work, and if you see that bug too, maybe my work will help — I'll PM you if I find out more... |
| [00:38:25] | jherm: | Thanks iamlindoro, mchou for the help. See ya. |
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| [00:47:51] | unimaginative: | this is really weird. On this new ubuntu install, I type 'modprobe lirc_mceusb2", and I dont get any errors, but it loads the lirc_mceusb modules, not the usb2 |
| [00:48:55] | unimaginative: | and a lot of lirc modules are located at /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/ubuntu/lirc/, just NOT the lirc_mceusb2 |
| [00:49:22] | wagnerrp: | there were notifications a while back that mceusb and mceusb2 were getting merged |
| [00:49:48] | unimaginative: | wagnerrp, i thought that might have happened, but couldnt find anything via google |
| [00:50:05] | unimaginative: | 'merged' is a good descriptor |
| [00:52:04] | unimaginative: | so that answers that problem. |
| [00:52:28] | unimaginative: | this new install still isn't 'seeing' my hauppauge remote. |
| [00:53:28] | unimaginative: | any of my remotes, rather. |
| [00:55:33] | Malard: | laga: yep ubuntu |
| [00:55:59] | laga: | Malard: why don't you install the packages? |
| [00:56:59] | unimaginative: | wagnerrp, looks like they moved /etc/lircd.conf to /etc/lirc/lircd.conf |
| [00:57:06] | unimaginative: | but it's almost as if it's not being read |
| [00:58:18] | wagnerrp: | the hauppauge and mce remotes do not use lircd.conf |
| [00:58:59] | skd5aner: | Anyone know if it's possible yet to manage the firmware of the HD-PVR from linux, or does the upgrades still have to occur within windows |
| [00:59:15] | unimaginative: | wagnerrp, it was my understanding (and how I had it working before ) that any remote config put in lircd.conf would be parsed |
| [00:59:18] | [R]: | skd5aner: no |
| [00:59:25] | unimaginative: | wagnerrp, how was that changed? |
| [00:59:52] | wagnerrp: | the hauppauge and mce drivers have their IR signals hard coded |
| [01:00:11] | [R]: | you still need an lircd.conf... |
| [01:01:07] | unimaginative: | Long story short, 'mode2' is returning data. however, 'irw' is not. My lircd.conf is my old version, the one containing the button mappings for all my remotes |
| [01:01:23] | unimaginative: | Where would you start looking? |
| [01:01:34] | [R]: | if irw isn't returning anything, there is anything matching in the lircd.conf or lircd isn't running properly |
| [01:01:40] | [R]: | there isn't anything* |
| [01:02:01] | unimaginative: | [R], the lircd.conf has not changed, I copied it from the old (working) install. |
| [01:02:06] | sphery: | Malard: does your distro have a build-deps kind of thing for Myth? |
| [01:02:19] | Malard: | err |
| [01:02:38] | unimaginative: | as far as 'lircd isnt running properly', I was able to build a button map using irrecord. |
| [01:02:40] | laga: | sphery: yes, it does |
| [01:02:41] | sphery: | some kind of package that installs everything you need to build myth |
| [01:02:46] | Malard: | you've basically lost me, my knowledge of linux is pretty thin, i'm happy to help fix up web stuff, but need a bit of hand holding on the linux setup |
| [01:02:57] | Malard: | i am using ubuntu 9.10 |
| [01:03:17] | sphery: | that's the extent of my knowledge on it, so I'll leave you to others who know *buntu |
| [01:03:17] | Malard: | i used the synaptic(?) package manager to install mythtv |
| [01:03:31] | sphery: | laga probably knows the package name you need |
| [01:03:34] | Malard: | but that did'nt need any of the dependancies to build against |
| [01:03:52] | Malard: | thanks, well i'm basically erroring on lack of lame encoder |
| [01:04:00] | Malard: | but i have installed "lame" via apt-get |
| [01:04:26] | Anduin: | the devel package as well? |
| [01:04:47] | laga: | Malard: what are you even trying to do? |
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| [01:10:50] | unimaginative: | aha, figuring it out |
| [01:10:55] | unimaginative: | it's a misconfiguration somewhere |
| [01:11:30] | unimaginative: | 'irw' works find when I start lircd manually with a 'lircd -n -d /dev/lirc0 /etc/lirc/lircd.conf' |
| [01:12:35] | unimaginative: | PERFECT |
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| [01:24:09] | skd5aner: | hmm, I can't seem to change tuners in live tv using the Y and/or C keys |
| [01:24:23] | skd5aner: | I know one changes the inputs, one changes the tuner – but neither do anything |
| [01:24:41] | skd5aner: | I checked, and the keys are mapped to their defaults in "TV Playback" |
| [01:24:55] | skd5aner: | anyone else have this problem in .22? |
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| [01:25:55] | luis_: | What PC would be the ideal to install Mythbuntu so i can connect my HDTV bravia 47 to it and use all myth features? |
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| [01:26:23] | _ben: | a magical PC |
| [01:27:29] | _ben: | do you have any hardware lying around you might be able to use? |
| [01:30:46] | justinh: | luis_: oh I see, come back later & ask the same question as earlier. heh |
| [01:31:02] | _ben: | yeah |
| [01:31:07] | luis_: | yeah... |
| [01:31:22] | justinh: | the answer will be the same then |
| [01:31:27] | luis_: | dont got answer, so i am trying again |
| [01:31:44] | justinh: | yes you blimmin did |
| [01:32:14] | justinh: | luis_: if said laptop has enough oomph to play the content, then yes of course |
| [01:32:27] | luis_: | oomph? |
| [01:32:30] | justinh: | power |
| [01:32:34] | justinh: | grunt |
| [01:32:37] | justinh: | speed |
| [01:32:45] | justinh: | RAM |
| [01:32:47] | justinh: | etc |
| [01:32:56] | luis_: | oh |
| [01:32:58] | luis_: | ok |
| [01:33:03] | _ben: | what `said laptop`? |
| [01:33:09] | justinh: | exactly |
| [01:33:22] | _ben: | :p |
| [01:33:37] | luis_: | so when i get the Mithbuntu installed, and i connect my laptop to my hdtv, i am done with the HTPC, all set? |
| [01:33:40] | justinh: | forget about ATI unless this magical mythical machine has major CPU power. like C2D running at 2.8Ghz |
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| [01:33:51] | justinh: | if you wanna play h.264 HDTV that is |
| [01:33:55] | justinh: | or God help you, AVC |
| [01:34:07] | _ben: | mithtv :) |
| [01:34:15] | _ben: | i might go to bed actually |
| [01:34:16] | _ben: | nn |
| [01:34:27] | justinh: | sleep well |
| [01:34:47] | justinh: | though I dunno how you can sleep when there are users who need your help :P |
| [01:34:52] | luis_: | h.264 hdtv...? |
| [01:35:05] | justinh: | luis_: it's an encoding format |
| [01:35:09] | _ben: | justinh: easily :p |
| [01:35:23] | justinh: | some broadcast HDTV comes in that format which needs a lot of CPU power to play |
| [01:35:39] | luis_: | sony bravia 47 comes in that format? |
| [01:35:39] | justinh: | bluray stuff requires a lot of CPU power to play too |
| [01:36:09] | wagnerrp: | theres a difference between AVC and h.264? |
| [01:36:21] | justinh: | if you're in the US or canada, your HD from cable or over the air will only be mpeg2 |
| [01:36:38] | luis_: | i am not in US |
| [01:36:42] | luis_: | i am in Panamá |
| [01:36:51] | justinh: | wagnerrp: thought AVC was an extension which made it even more of a pain to play |
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| [01:37:19] | wagnerrp: | AVC is just the mpeg4 version of h264 |
| [01:37:20] | justinh: | luis_: so use google & find out what format your country's HDTV comes in |
| [01:37:48] | justinh: | use google. who am I kidding |
| [01:38:19] | _ben: | bleh |
| [01:38:32] | ** _ben waits for good bye lenin to finish downloading ** | |
| [01:39:53] | luis_: | yep |
| [01:39:56] | luis_: | 264 |
| [01:40:25] | wagnerrp: | oh, i thought most of the americas ran ATSC |
| [01:40:36] | justinh: | so you'd be talking about some serious CPU power, or onboard nvidia graphics like 9400 or better |
| [01:41:11] | luis_: | justin, what PC u have in mind? i can buy it |
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| [01:41:25] | justinh: | I dunno. you do your own laptop research |
| [01:41:36] | justinh: | it'd be expensive though |
| [01:41:48] | luis_: | came here to know the answer cause i dont know what to research =/ |
| [01:42:36] | justinh: | look for something with either 3Ghz Core 2 duo CPU and/or onboard nvidia graphics capable of VDPAU video decoding |
| [01:43:06] | justinh: | dunno if they even make 3Ghz C2D chips though. heh |
| [01:43:10] | luis_: | lol and i thinked installing mithbuntu to my laptop and then connecting it to my TV would be all set |
| [01:43:27] | luis_: | okay but the 1 thing |
| [01:43:30] | luis_: | then* |
| [01:43:36] | luis_: | what u use with ur mythtv |
| [01:43:46] | wagnerrp: | looks like panama is DVB/T |
| [01:44:06] | wagnerrp: | good thing, consider nearly all the rest of south america is ISDB-T |
| [01:44:15] | wagnerrp: | for which there are no supported tuner cards |
| [01:44:21] | justinh: | backend machine is a 2000XP athlon with 512MB ram, 2.5TB HDD, 3 dvb-t tuners |
| [01:44:46] | justinh: | frontend is a C2D 1.6Ghz (T5600 IIRC) with Intel graphics. No high def content ;-) |
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| [01:45:18] | justinh: | and it won't play h.264 HD stuff well |
| [01:45:50] | justinh: | but when HD comes to this house it'll come from a noisy box in a cupboard away from the living room :) |
| [01:46:08] | justinh: | a noisy ugly box at that |
| [01:46:19] | _ben: | the wiring is a problem tho |
| [01:46:31] | justinh: | worked out that a 10 metre HDMI cable will do the job |
| [01:46:44] | wagnerrp: | and remote control? |
| [01:46:45] | _ben: | conduit job? |
| [01:46:57] | justinh: | nah not in my house, we have crawl space |
| [01:47:16] | ** wagnerrp wishes for CEC ** | |
| [01:47:20] | justinh: | wagnerrp: home made IR receiver, long cable |
| [01:47:27] | _ben: | wagnerrp: justinh is old enough to have slaves^W children :p |
| [01:47:32] | wagnerrp: | so shielded serial... |
| [01:47:45] | _ben: | no remotes needed |
| [01:48:02] | justinh: | lol |
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| [01:48:16] | wagnerrp: | 'Channel Up.... I said channel up! up! up! up or youre going back in the pit! |
| [01:48:18] | justinh: | yeah we might have a kid or 2 by the time we get HD here |
| [01:48:43] | _ben: | two is goodd |
| [01:48:46] | _ben: | -d |
| [01:48:48] | justinh: | they'd be 16 by the time my wallet loosens enough for me to buy into HD |
| [01:48:54] | _ben: | such a laggy connection :/ |
| [01:49:04] | luis_: | so 264 > DVB/T > ISDB-T? |
| [01:49:21] | wagnerrp: | h264 is a video codec |
| [01:49:31] | wagnerrp: | dvb and isdb are two forms of digital television |
| [01:50:04] | wagnerrp: | avc/h264 > asp/mpeg4 > mpeg2 |
| [01:50:18] | luis_: | and what format is dvb? |
| [01:50:29] | wagnerrp: | dvb comes in h264 and mpeg2 |
| [01:53:05] | luis_: | ok so... u have any idea of what i would need for my HTPC? |
| [01:53:20] | luis_: | i am going to buy some Digital Dolby sorround |
| [01:53:35] | luis_: | but i need to connect the pc with a HDMI to the TV? |
| [01:53:40] | wagnerrp: | just about any machine you purchase any more will do HD mpeg2 |
| [01:53:54] | wagnerrp: | but as justinh said, h264 is a bit tricky |
| [01:54:06] | wagnerrp: | if youve got mutli-sliced h264, its easy |
| [01:54:19] | wagnerrp: | multi-sliced means the video is split into several physical domains |
| [01:54:27] | wagnerrp: | and each can be encoded and decoded independently |
| [01:54:33] | wagnerrp: | allowing for multithreaded playback |
| [01:55:07] | wagnerrp: | so on something like a bluray disk, you *can* actually manage the 30–40mbps because each core only has to handle 7–10mbps on its own |
| [01:55:46] | wagnerrp: | now dvb can run as high as 25mbps for some stuff, and if that ends up being single sliced, youre pretty much SOL |
| [01:56:05] | wagnerrp: | the only way youre going to manage that is with hardware decoding, in the form of an nvidia card and VDPAU, as justinh mentioned |
| [01:56:45] | wagnerrp: | now you wont get any HD until next year, starting with the world cup (or at thats what wikipedia claimed) |
| [01:56:57] | wagnerrp: | so by then, mythtv *may* have the ffmpeg-mt decoders |
| [01:57:06] | wagnerrp: | which would allow multithreaded decode of single-sliced content |
| [01:57:16] | wagnerrp: | but i wouldnt assume that is ever going to happen |
| [01:57:31] | wagnerrp: | leaving your only sensible route for high bitrate h264 to be VDPAU |
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| [01:59:11] | josh_: | It looks as though my PVR150, and HV-1600 switched dev nodes |
| [01:59:34] | josh_: | Does anyone have a link to guide me how to set UDEV to make sure the device nodes stay the same after a reboot? |
| [02:00:11] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Device_Filenames_and_udev |
| [02:00:14] | ** justinh used to just use module blacklisting ** | |
| [02:00:39] | mchou: | josh_: you dont even need udev for this |
| [02:00:57] | mchou: | look up the module paramers for each tuner |
| [02:01:14] | mchou: | iirc something like cardindex or something |
| [02:01:33] | mchou: | way simpler than futzing with udev |
| [02:02:35] | luis_: | after all that chinese language i dont understand... what u r triying to tell me is than in my country the only thing i need to do is buy any powerfull intel pc i find, the only thing i need to do is intall mythbuntu, and i am done? |
| [02:03:04] | luis_: | the tv controller support for controlling the pc comes supported? |
| [02:03:08] | wagnerrp: | not at all what i said |
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| [02:03:21] | josh_: | mchou, and specify the card paramaters when I modprobe the drivers in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ? |
| [02:03:43] | mchou: | josh_: yup |
| [02:04:07] | mchou: | josh_: or wherever it is in your distro |
| [02:04:11] | wagnerrp: | buy a modern low end nvidia card, buy a relatively cheap dual core, try software decoding but switch to VDPAU if the CPU doesnt cut it |
| [02:04:17] | sphery: | josh_: you said that the patch you tested last night fixed the defunct procs, right? |
| [02:04:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, what was the question about #7467 |
| [02:05:04] | josh_: | sphery, it did last night, but when I rebuilt it today, with the existing patch, I had two defunct processes come back. |
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| [02:05:32] | sphery: | It was actually about the bug in Qt. I'm trying to figure out which is the bug... comments at http://misc.thirdcontact.com/qt-4.5-handle_da . . . chNext.patch and I'll explain better here |
| [02:05:37] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: ^^^ |
| [02:05:50] | sphery: | josh_: OK. So it must have just taken a while to show up last night |
| [02:05:57] | sphery: | thanks, anyway, though |
| [02:06:49] | mchou: | josh_: ivtv_first_minor is the parameter for ivtv |
| [02:07:14] | josh_: | mchou, I'm looking in the ivtv wiki, it looks like they're suggesting udev rules |
| [02:07:25] | josh_: | http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto |
| [02:07:36] | mchou: | dude, you trust wikis? |
| [02:08:11] | mchou: | josh_: why people need more complexity is beyond me |
| [02:08:34] | mchou: | module parameters are there for a reason |
| [02:08:38] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: Basically, with the patch I show there, it will add a lastError if there is an error or data truncation--but next() will still return false and end the looping. This is how Qt handles it in fetch(). However, it means that the behavior is different depending on whether you're using prepared statements or not. In Qt4.5, it always defaults to prepared statements--even if the developer never calls prepare(). |
| [02:08:40] | josh_: | I guess module options is fine, as long as I dont introduce any cards that don't use ivtv to the system. |
| [02:08:55] | mchou: | josh_: why? |
| [02:09:22] | mchou: | josh_: you can have multiple ivtv cards and they'll still behave correctly |
| [02:09:45] | josh_: | mchou, what if I introduce a card that's *not* ivtv :) |
| [02:09:52] | mchou: | it's not rocket science |
| [02:10:03] | mchou: | josh_: are you daft? |
| [02:10:17] | josh_: | mchou, you just seem hell bent to prove your point. |
| [02:10:24] | josh_: | that makes me not trust you. |
| [02:10:43] | josh_: | If that makes me 'daft', so be it. |
| [02:10:46] | mchou: | for v4l cards there are ALWAYS XXXX_first_minor parameters in each module |
| [02:10:47] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: I understand why they might want to consider MYSQL_DATA_TRUNCATED an error and return false, but doing so implies that it's the QSqlQuery user's responsibility to check the error after every while (query.next()) loop (or verify count or something). I can't tell whether to raise 2 bugs or 1--one is that fetchNext() doesn't handle errors/truncation. The other might be that truncation should not be treated as a ... |
| [02:10:53] | sphery: | ... generic error so behavior aligns with non-prepared queries, which use mysql_fetch_row() |
| [02:11:05] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: and, to make it easier to see: http://misc.thirdcontact.com/Qt3.3.8b-qsql_mysql.cpp and http://misc.thirdcontact.com/Qt4.5.3-qsql_mysql.cpp |
| [02:11:24] | mchou: | josh_: quite frankly if you want to go down the udev path I'm not stopping you |
| [02:11:35] | mchou: | josh_: good luck |
| [02:12:14] | mchou: | josh_: apparently no good deed goes unpunished these days |
| [02:15:38] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, taking a little while to wrap my head around it. vegging tonight. :) |
| [02:17:34] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: no hurry... I just don't konw whether it makes sense to call MYSQL_DATA_TRUNCATED an error (since it's only available with mysql_fetch_row(), which is only used with prepared statements) |
| [02:17:58] | sphery: | anyway, just asking you since I trust your opinion (even on non-myth things :) |
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| [02:20:20] | sphery: | Trying to decide if I care enough to fix the next Qt bug I found. QKeySequence::QKeySequence(const QString &key) is supposed to accept a comma-separated listof sequences. Comma can be used in that list--but it fails if the comma is /not/ the first character (i.e. ",,<,Left" works to register ",", "<", and "Left", but "Left,,,<" does not work). |
| [02:21:17] | sphery: | in practice it means that if a user users MythControls to bind keys including comma and does not put the comma first, their whole keylist is corrupted. |
| [02:23:39] | Captain_Murdoch: | that works the same way that – in a regex does. :) |
| [02:23:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | in a [] char list |
| [02:24:02] | justinh: | http://imagebin.ca/img/oO8-eG.png |
| [02:24:11] | justinh: | bugger, wrong window |
| [02:24:47] | iamlindoro: | ha, nipples |
| [02:25:08] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: so the comma thing isn't a bug? |
| [02:25:16] | mchou: | I dont recall that scene in merchant of venice |
| [02:25:31] | mchou: | is that the one with al pacino? |
| [02:25:40] | Captain_Murdoch: | not sure, either would have to put it first or allow escaping it if you really wanted a , as the key |
| [02:25:56] | justinh: | http://imagebin.ca/img/AU17rj.png different shot which better shows the animation |
| [02:26:01] | wagnerrp: | its the showtime version |
| [02:26:08] | justinh: | ojees. whoops |
| [02:26:26] | justinh: | that's theming dedication when you fail to notice the nips |
| [02:26:39] | mchou: | bullcrap |
| [02:26:54] | mchou: | you're just trying to titallate us :) |
| [02:26:56] | justinh: | sheesh. also when you fail to notice it's almost 2.30a |
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| [02:28:17] | darkfrog: | hey guys, I just saw that .22 has been released and I upgraded from Ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 and it would appear I got .22 but now my backend is gone |
| [02:28:31] | darkfrog: | what do I need to do to get all the backend stuff installed again? |
| [02:31:24] | iamlindoro: | #ubuntu-mythtv likely knows, since it sounds like a package management issue |
| [02:32:17] | sphery: | So, I'll just edit MythControls to always put , first in the keylist... |
| [02:33:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | sphery, in the data truncated case, I think I see 2 scenarios. 1) the next() returns true, we get a row with truncated data (which could be bad) and continue. or 2) next() returns false but we don't know why and would have to check every time like you said to see if the row counts match or if we had an error that caused next() to return false. I think consistency would be good, to match so that both prepared vs non-prepared do the same t |
| [02:33:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | hing. maybe I'm not understanding it fully though. sorry, my mind is not in a programming mood tonight. |
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| [02:34:43] | Captain_Murdoch: | RE: the keysequence, I'd think they have special code in there to check if , was the first character in the string, otherwise they could be checking if the first token from a QStringList::split() was empty and assuming the user wanted comma in the list. either way I think it would be hardcoded to work the way it does. |
| [02:35:43] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: That's exactly what I wanted to know. I'll go ahead and submit the fix and also recommend returning true for MYSQL_DATA_TRUNCATED. Thanks for the opinion. |
| [02:37:06] | sphery: | And for the keysequence, they're not even using their own QStringList or QString::tokenize() or anything--just low-level "indexOf()" and "at()" code. :) |
| [02:37:52] | Captain_Murdoch: | optimization? :) |
| [02:38:32] | sphery: | yeah, the best kind of optimizations--those that fall under "maintenance nightmares" |
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| [02:39:21] | Captain_Murdoch: | that too. I was just talking about not using the split to get a qstringlist. |
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| [02:52:28] | elmojo: | iamlindoro: those are some nice prizes for the theming competition... you should enter ArcLight :) |
| [02:52:38] | iamlindoro: | elmojo: I'm ineligible :) |
| [02:54:03] | elmojo: | I'm eligible if you want me to enter it. |
| [02:54:12] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [02:54:19] | iamlindoro: | And it won't be license compatible :) |
| [02:54:28] | elmojo: | ah, that's right |
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| [03:00:15] | justinh: | I should enter. oh wait, that's wrong on a few counts |
| [03:00:37] | iamlindoro: | Of course if no winners are announced all prizes go to me |
| [03:00:41] | iamlindoro: | Forgot to mention that part |
| [03:01:03] | elmojo: | I submit a theme if that happens |
| [03:01:16] | iamlindoro: | elmojo: HAs to meet the minimum requirements :) |
| [03:01:40] | elmojo: | bummer |
| [03:01:43] | iamlindoro: | so if you put in the effort (which will be sizable) to meet those requirements, you deserve to get something |
| [03:02:01] | elmojo: | so default-wide with a different background doesn't comply? |
| [03:02:28] | iamlindoro: | correct :) |
| [03:02:36] | iamlindoro: | thus the requirement that it be 100% original :) |
| [03:02:58] | elmojo: | oh well, that's about all I have when it comes to artistic talent |
| [03:05:11] | justinh: | it never stopped some people. heh |
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| [03:19:36] | ** skd5aner is losing his battle trying to get firewire setup so he can use it to control his STB ** | |
| [03:19:58] | skd5aner: | anyone here using firewire? |
| [03:20:26] | [R]: | i tried |
| [03:20:29] | [R]: | and gave up |
| [03:21:02] | mangus580: | Anyone in here using the PVR-500 on 0.22? |
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| [03:25:14] | skd5aner: | mangus580: I am |
| [03:26:08] | mangus580: | did you have any trouble setting up the second card input? |
| [03:26:25] | mangus580: | I am not getting /dev/video1 |
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| [03:27:26] | mangus580: | but if I do a ls /dev/vi* -l command, it shows up |
| [03:29:30] | skd5aner: | Hmmm, no |
| [03:29:43] | skd5aner: | I got both devices to show in myth under the IVTV section |
| [03:29:43] | mangus580: | odd |
| [03:30:39] | mangus580: | yeah, thats how I had them setup in 0.21 |
| [03:30:40] | mangus580: | worked fine |
| [03:31:34] | iamlindoro: | mangus580: does the /dev/video1 node exist at all? |
| [03:31:45] | mangus580: | not in mythsetup |
| [03:31:52] | iamlindoro: | That's not what I'm asking |
| [03:32:01] | iamlindoro: | I'm asking if it exists period. In the filesystem |
| [03:32:04] | mangus580: | but if I do a ls /dev/vi* -l in a terminal window it shows up |
| [03:32:40] | mangus580: | and it was fine in 0.21 |
| [03:32:45] | iamlindoro: | Probably a permissions issue on the node, but mythtv-setup doesn't autodetect anything, so just create the second ivtv item and type in the node location |
| [03:33:00] | mangus580: | I uninstalled 0.21 (because it was installed funny) and installed 0.22 |
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| [03:33:08] | mangus580: | so you are saying to force it even though it doesnt detect? |
| [03:33:20] | iamlindoro: | It doesn't detect in the first place |
| [03:33:32] | mangus580: | if I type in the node, it wont let me choose the input... says it cant detect it |
| [03:33:46] | iamlindoro: | Then you have a permissions issue on the node, most likely |
| [03:33:55] | josh_: | bwahahahaahahahahahaha |
| [03:33:59] | mangus580: | how would I fix that? |
| [03:34:39] | iamlindoro: | modify the udev rule that creates it to give correct permissions-- would be worth comparing the permissions between the nodes and checking your dmesg output |
| [03:34:51] | mangus580: | whoa.... |
| [03:34:57] | mangus580: | that just flew right over |
| [03:34:59] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [03:35:42] | iamlindoro: | ls -al /dev/video* to a pastebin, and check the output of the ivtv portions of the command "dmesg" |
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| [03:37:48] | mangus580: | http://pastebin.com/m50ca9aae |
| [03:39:11] | mangus580: | and the dmesg output http://pastebin.com/m668e7742 |
| [03:52:37] | mchou: | mangus580: what's up with your drives? |
| [03:52:42] | skd5aner: | hmm, for whatever reason, when I run plugctl -n 0 "oPCR[0].n_p2p_connections=0" |
| [03:52:52] | mangus580: | mchou: what do you mean? :-) |
| [03:52:56] | skd5aner: | ... it sets properly and plugreport confirms |
| [03:53:08] | mchou: | mangus580: all those errors in dmesg |
| [03:53:36] | mchou: | UDMA/33??? |
| [03:53:42] | mangus580: | not sure... I do know I have a drive failing... |
| [03:53:52] | skd5aner: | however, it never will set the broadcast or channel with plugctl -n 0 "oPCR[0].bcast_connection=1" and plugctl -n 0 "oPCR[0].channel=63" |
| [03:53:53] | mangus580: | yeah! you like that? I needed an extra ide port... had a card kicking aroud |
| [03:53:59] | mangus580: | and an old ribbon |
| [03:54:06] | mangus580: | slow as hell, but I can get to the drive at least! |
| [03:54:36] | mchou: | UDMA33 is probaly close to 15 years old |
| [03:54:54] | mchou: | unless it's an optical disk |
| [03:55:10] | mangus580: | its a ribbon restriction... its only a 40 wire ribbon |
| [03:56:04] | mchou: | anyway, pvr500 is initalizing correctly according to dmesg |
| [03:56:10] | mchou: | both tuners |
| [03:56:11] | mangus580: | thats what I thought |
| [03:58:17] | mchou: | and there is nothing wrong with you ls output |
| [03:58:23] | mchou: | your* |
| [03:58:34] | mangus580: | I swear... its a mythtv issue! |
| [03:58:36] | mchou: | you need to read the myth tv docs |
| [03:58:45] | mchou: | no it's not |
| [03:58:48] | mchou: | RTFM |
| [03:58:51] | mangus580: | I've been digging |
| [03:58:55] | mangus580: | and have not come up with anything |
| [03:59:04] | mchou: | that's what they all say |
| [03:59:09] | mangus580: | LOL |
| [03:59:12] | mangus580: | AND.... |
| [03:59:23] | mangus580: | I have had it setup before just fine (very easily in fact) on 0.21 |
| [03:59:24] | mchou: | I'm telling you it's all well spelled out in the docs |
| [04:01:28] | mangus580: | I've even gone through the wiki on the card |
| [04:04:35] | mchou: | dude, read the official mythtv docs |
| [04:05:46] | mangus580: | you mean like this page that tells me little to nothing? http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.1 |
| [04:06:29] | mchou: | I told you to read the docs, not one page |
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| [04:06:54] | mangus580: | so there is another page of the docs that talks about the capture card settings? |
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| [04:11:01] | sphery: | mangus580: with those permissions you'll have to run mythtv-setup as root |
| [04:11:22] | sphery: | mangus580: or, better, fix your udev config to give more permissions to a video group or whatever |
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| [04:12:40] | mangus580: | +sphery: thanks |
| [04:12:44] | mangus580: | that did the trick |
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| [04:13:08] | mangus580: | how would I fix udev config for the permissions? |
| [04:13:14] | mangus580: | (or once I am setup does it matter?) |
| [04:13:45] | sphery: | how you fix it depends on distro--best bet is to ask on your distro forums |
| [04:13:59] | sphery: | at this point, it's up to you |
| [04:14:12] | sphery: | as long as the backend runs as root, that will work |
| [04:14:58] | mangus580: | k |
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| [04:19:34] | slee: | hi guys I need help |
| [04:19:56] | slee: | i am trying to connect my SA 4250HD with firewire cable |
| [04:20:13] | slee: | but I am getting packet error when I run mythprime -v |
| [04:20:26] | slee: | P2P: receiving packets... FAILED. |
| [04:27:49] | mchou: | I doubt you need mythprime |
| [04:28:33] | mchou: | just use plugreport and test-mpeg2 (whatever it's called now) to make sure it works outside myth |
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| [04:33:00] | skd5aner: | slee: good luck – I'm doing the exact same thing as you with an SA 3250HD – it ain't going so hot |
| [04:34:00] | skd5aner: | I'm about to say screw it, and just use the IR blaster – I just wanted to use firewire to change channels on my STB |
| [04:34:11] | mchou: | unless the firewire stack broke in recent kernels it should just work |
| [04:34:21] | slee: | plugreport |
| [04:34:22] | slee: | Host Adapter 0 |
| [04:34:22] | slee: | ============== |
| [04:34:22] | slee: | Node 0 GUID 0x001e8c0001bd9078 |
| [04:34:22] | slee: | ------------------------------ |
| [04:34:22] | slee: | libiec61883 error: error reading oMPR |
| [04:34:23] | skd5aner: | mchou: one would think |
| [04:34:24] | slee: | libiec61883 error: error reading iMPR |
| [04:34:30] | mangus580: | I wish I could control my STB with firewire (damn TW) |
| [04:34:40] | mchou: | slee: lol |
| [04:34:43] | skd5aner: | do you have a Node 1 or Node 0 |
| [04:35:01] | skd5aner: | mangus580: same here – TWC |
| [04:35:01] | slee: | what |
| [04:35:12] | mchou: | slee: you dont even pass the plugreport sanity check |
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| [04:35:17] | mangus580: | skd5aner: dont they lock out firewire use? |
| [04:35:24] | mchou: | slee: that's vey bad news |
| [04:35:29] | slee: | which mean ? |
| [04:36:11] | mchou: | mangus580: in the US they arent supposed to lock people out of firewire (by law) |
| [04:36:14] | skd5aner: | mangus580: last time I tried (2007) I could "connect" to the STB, but no video transfer |
| [04:36:28] | skd5aner: | however, now – I can't even get a succesful connection at all |
| [04:36:37] | skd5aner: | they've updated the software on the STB :P |
| [04:37:13] | mchou: | slee: if plugreport doesnt work right that means all bets are off |
| [04:37:25] | skd5aner: | mchou: the law is that they are required to have "active firewire ports" and that they can not encrypt local channels... no one is enforcing it, not even the FCC |
| [04:37:38] | slee: | how to I fix it ? |
| [04:37:44] | skd5aner: | slee: do you have any other nodes? |
| [04:37:57] | slee: | what you mean by nodes ? |
| [04:38:03] | skd5aner: | that showed node 0 |
| [04:38:05] | mchou: | skd5aner: dude, before you complain, how are you determining the firewire ports are not active? |
| [04:38:33] | slee: | I got two firewire on my STB |
| [04:38:44] | slee: | if its what you mean by nodes. |
| [04:39:00] | slee: | but I tried to plug on both and same result |
| [04:39:01] | skd5aner: | mchou: by 5 hours of working on it following all the guides and info known to man |
| [04:39:10] | mchou: | slee: google plugreport to see what a good output looks like |
| [04:39:21] | mchou: | skd5aner: that's just stupid |
| [04:39:24] | skd5aner: | I've not given up just yet – hoping I've missed something |
| [04:39:53] | skd5aner: | mchou: haha – not stupid, just trying to explain that I've done a lot – happy to detail some of it out |
| [04:40:02] | mchou: | skd5aner: you will be able to difinitively tell if firewire is enabled with the STB diagnostic screens |
| [04:40:21] | skd5aner: | mchou: not true! Been in them 4 times, all 26 screens of them |
| [04:40:35] | skd5aner: | I've had 1 STB |
| [04:40:37] | skd5aner: | since 2007 |
| [04:40:40] | mchou: | skd5aner: so what did it say about the firewire ports? |
| [04:41:12] | mchou: | skd5aner: this info is basic |
| [04:41:15] | skd5aner: | in 2007, the diag screens explicitely showed firewire status and details |
| [04:41:26] | skd5aner: | I don't remember the software on the STB at the time |
| [04:42:14] | mchou: | so you're saying the diag reports on firewire has gon awol? |
| [04:42:15] | skd5aner: | in 2008, TWC pushed "Navigator" to all the STBs – during that time, I never tried firewire because while in 2007 I could control the STB, I was never able to capture video from it in linux OR windows |
| [04:42:23] | skd5aner: | so – I never tried it on Navigator |
| [04:42:25] | mchou: | gone* |
| [04:42:35] | skd5aner: | mchou: getting to it... |
| [04:42:46] | mchou: | dude, just answer the frigging question |
| [04:43:04] | skd5aner: | In 2009, they pushed "Mystro" – and now I have an HD-PVR and I want to be able to control the channels... |
| [04:43:29] | skd5aner: | Mystro does NOT have any details in all 26 of it's pages regarding IEEE 1394/firewire/etc |
| [04:43:36] | mchou: | skd5aner: tell me that background stuff later |
| [04:43:39] | skd5aner: | which is what I already said above :) |
| [04:44:09] | skd5aner: | This version of the software on the STB, doens't mention firewire... |
| [04:44:15] | mchou: | skd5aner: what about stuf like mac addresses and whatnot? |
| [04:44:21] | mchou: | stuff* |
| [04:44:31] | skd5aner: | Yes, that stuff is in there |
| [04:44:37] | skd5aner: | let me re-enter the diag menu |
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| [04:46:28] | defaultro: | mchou, do you watch mma? |
| [04:46:45] | mchou: | defaultro: I dont even know what that is |
| [04:46:50] | defaultro: | :) |
| [04:47:24] | skd5aner: | mchou: anything you'd like me to relay regarding the diag menu? |
| [04:47:24] | defaultro: | anyone saw this evening's fight at CBS? |
| [04:47:45] | skd5aner: | first off, I am getting some decent info out of dmesg and plugreport, but I'm having some very specific issues too |
| [04:47:49] | mchou: | skd5aner: yeah, imagebin :) |
| [04:47:58] | mchou: | skd5aner: take photos :) |
| [04:48:26] | mchou: | skd5aner: cause there's no other way I'd believe 1394 info is gon from diag screens |
| [04:48:33] | mchou: | gone* |
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| [04:49:03] | mchou: | skd5aner: if that's really the case they deservve a real hard slap from FCC |
| [04:49:32] | skd5aner: | mchou: understood, but you gotta give me a little credit here – I'm not a total dumb newb here |
| [04:49:33] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [04:49:52] | mchou: | skd5aner: I take the House approach |
| [04:49:59] | mchou: | everybody lies |
| [04:50:00] | skd5aner: | and I agree – it's fairly bizarre, and it "used" to be in the old menus |
| [04:50:45] | skd5aner: | well, then, if you think I'm wrong, we can at least aproach this from another way |
| [04:51:04] | skd5aner: | from my side, instead of the STB |
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| [04:51:27] | skd5aner: | I am getting an indication of dmesg seeing the cable being plugged in |
| [04:51:28] | mchou: | no |
| [04:51:43] | skd5aner: | so I don't know if the ports are entirely off |
| [04:51:43] | mchou: | I dont want to deal with "your" side |
| [04:52:05] | mchou: | that's not a controlled environment |
| [04:52:25] | skd5aner: | mchou: I wouldn't really call TWC a controlled environment either :/ |
| [04:52:47] | mchou: | no, but it's more controlled than your UFO |
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| [04:53:05] | skd5aner: | no more than yours I suppose |
| [04:53:22] | mchou: | yes, but I'm not the one having issues |
| [04:54:03] | mchou: | that and I happen to KNOW what I'm doing |
| [04:54:24] | skd5aner: | cool – finally found someone that knows all the answers and is perfect! |
| [04:55:21] | mchou: | dude, just put up some shots |
| [04:55:24] | skd5aner: | I don't know why you have to come off the way you do, I'm not the only one in the world who can't connect to a TWC provided SA3250HD STB via firewire |
| [04:55:59] | mchou: | skd5aner: I come off the way I do cause there are plenty of clueless people |
| [04:56:01] | skd5aner: | but – it's no big deal, if you don't want to help – don't, but you don't have to come off so brash |
| [04:56:32] | skd5aner: | maybe so, but you don't know me or my background – so don't act like your so superior |
| [04:56:34] | mchou: | well, I'm sorry if this seems brash |
| [04:57:00] | mchou: | but you did not exactly explain what you did |
| [04:57:16] | skd5aner: | NP, let me start over then... |
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| [04:57:24] | mchou: | getting real info from you so far has been like pulling teeth |
| [04:57:35] | cappicard: | hey folks. where do I find an xmltv script for Timer Warner Cable – Kansas City, Kansas? the one with either mythtv or the xmltv source doesn't have it |
| [04:57:52] | mchou: | I'm not interested in background info atm, just facts |
| [04:57:55] | skd5aner: | Actually, I was tyring to give you the full background, but you didn't care to listen |
| [04:58:17] | skd5aner: | fine – just the facts |
| [04:58:30] | mchou: | I'd listen if you explain concisely what steps you;'ve done so far |
| [04:58:42] | mchou: | and right now that's failbus |
| [04:59:09] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FireWire – the steps I'm following |
| [04:59:20] | skd5aner: | running Ubuntu 9.10 server |
| [05:00:01] | skd5aner: | with the IEEE1394 and iec61883 packages installed |
| [05:00:15] | mchou: | I need you to be much more specific |
| [05:00:25] | skd5aner: | k |
| [05:00:35] | skd5aner: | where exactly would you like me to start? |
| [05:00:45] | mchou: | simple |
| [05:00:59] | mchou: | I ran this...and this is the output I get |
| [05:01:13] | skd5aner: | cool – easy enough, let me get pastebin up |
| [05:01:14] | mchou: | wtf is this so complicated? |
| [05:01:22] | skd5aner: | because your a douchebag? |
| [05:01:37] | mchou: | I'm the douchebag? |
| [05:01:52] | ** mag0o grabs the popcorn ** | |
| [05:02:33] | skd5aner: | yea, sorry – I don't want to go down that path – can we keep this civil |
| [05:02:37] | skd5aner: | ? |
| [05:02:53] | skd5aner: | If you don't want to help, and you aren't interested, that's fine – I never actually asked for your help |
| [05:03:02] | mchou: | stfu and put up the pastebin |
| [05:03:04] | ** mangus580 joins mag0o with the popcorn ** | |
| [05:03:04] | Gumby: | lol. you question if someone is a douchebag and then ask to keep it civil? |
| [05:03:10] | ** Gumby stokes the fire ** | |
| [05:03:13] | Gumby: | lol |
| [05:03:13] | Gumby: | j/k |
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| [05:03:27] | mchou: | I'm not interested in editorial diarherra |
| [05:03:34] | skd5aner: | yea, my comment was uncalled for – my bad |
| [05:03:58] | ** mangus580 slaps skd5aner upside the head... "whats the matter with you?" ** | |
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| [05:04:15] | mchou: | "You talking to me?" |
| [05:04:16] | ** skd5aner is uterly confused ** | |
| [05:04:27] | Gumby: | arghh, I hate when I forget to set my xchat setting to stop the "X" button from completely closing xchat |
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| [05:04:41] | mangus580: | seems you X'd that chat!! |
| [05:04:44] | Gumby: | lol |
| [05:04:52] | Gumby: | I love that term.. "X'd" |
| [05:05:02] | Gumby: | "now close the program susan" |
| [05:05:06] | Gumby: | "you mean X it out"? |
| [05:05:10] | Gumby: | Xit |
| [05:05:11] | Gumby: | lol |
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| [05:08:22] | PeaceKeeper: | I just installed a fresh install and i can not find the mc.sql to create the database. ANyone know where it is? |
| [05:08:32] | PeaceKeeper: | or should be :P |
| [05:08:42] | Gumby: | PeaceKeeper: updatedb && locate mc.sql |
| [05:08:48] | Gumby: | (as root) |
| [05:08:53] | Gumby: | or at least the first part |
| [05:09:18] | mangus580: | I just downloaded the tar file from the site and extracted it from there |
| [05:09:40] | Gumby: | mine is located at /usr/share/mythtv/sql/mc.sql in Ubuntu |
| [05:09:42] | PeaceKeeper: | mangus580: ydid you try with yum first? |
| [05:09:47] | PeaceKeeper: | ok looking |
| [05:10:12] | PeaceKeeper: | i dont have a sql dir |
| [05:10:12] | mangus580: | nope... once I couldnt located it on my system, I just went and grabbed it LOL |
| [05:10:19] | PeaceKeeper: | ok :D |
| [05:10:22] | Gumby: | PeaceKeeper: http://pastebin.ca/1661737 |
| [05:10:27] | PeaceKeeper: | so it missing from rpms i guess |
| [05:10:49] | mangus580: | I didnt say that!! I just couldnt find it with minimal searching |
| [05:11:34] | PeaceKeeper: | Yea i know I am saying that |
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| [05:11:58] | PeaceKeeper: | I did an install mythtv-backend and mythtv-frontend and no mc.sql |
| [05:12:09] | PeaceKeeper: | Gumby: Thx is that the whole mc.sql? |
| [05:12:15] | Gumby: | yep |
| [05:12:44] | PeaceKeeper: | ok thank you :D |
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| [05:15:58] | PeaceKeeper: | That worked great, thx again! |
| [05:17:09] | Gumby: | np, glad to help where I can (trust me, its not often) |
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| [05:20:12] | mchou: | ha |
| [05:20:41] | mchou: | TWC has buttoned up skd5aner's neighborhood |
| [05:22:17] | mchou: | 37 channels total |
| [05:22:28] | mchou: | that's just lame |
| [05:22:32] | Gumby: | twc? |
| [05:22:54] | mchou: | Gumby: yeah |
| [05:23:01] | Gumby: | sorry, I mean what is TWC? |
| [05:23:06] | mchou: | his cable provider |
| [05:23:08] | Gumby: | ah |
| [05:23:24] | Gumby: | I guess I dont follow what you meant. But thats ok |
| [05:24:09] | mchou: | It means he gets max 7 channels in the clear |
| [05:24:14] | mchou: | 37* |
| [05:24:49] | Gumby: | thats it? |
| [05:24:52] | mchou: | I'm sure people in trailer parks get more channels than that :) |
| [05:25:01] | mchou: | yup. |
| [05:25:03] | Gumby: | "in the clear"? does this mean over the air? |
| [05:25:05] | mchou: | no joke |
| [05:25:15] | mchou: | no, over cable |
| [05:25:15] | Gumby: | of just.. 37 channels... thats all they provide |
| [05:25:19] | Gumby: | wow |
| [05:25:23] | Gumby: | why would they do that? |
| [05:25:27] | Gumby: | thats not a service |
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| [05:25:39] | Gumby: | or is that just without a digital box or something? |
| [05:25:56] | mchou: | in the clear means unencrypted |
| [05:27:14] | Gumby: | gottcha |
| [05:27:19] | skd5aner: | mchou: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1661750 |
| [05:27:35] | skd5aner: | please let me know if there's any info I left out that you think would be beneficial to see |
| [05:28:17] | mchou: | skd5aner: all this time and that's it? |
| [05:28:32] | mchou: | where is test-mpeg2 stuff? |
| [05:28:55] | mchou: | and the imagebin photos? |
| [05:29:22] | mchou: | wtf? |
| [05:29:36] | skd5aner: | sorry – can't get the pics tonight |
| [05:30:32] | mchou: | your firewire port on STB is active |
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| [05:30:44] | mchou: | that's what plugreport tells me |
| [05:31:04] | mchou: | whether they are 5C or not is a different story |
| [05:31:07] | skd5aner: | ok – thx for confirming that... |
| [05:31:22] | mchou: | and we need to see the diags to determin that |
| [05:31:30] | mchou: | determine* |
| [05:31:33] | skd5aner: | I was assuming that since dmesg and plugreport changed (and get a mac when I plugged it in) that it was getting "something" |
| [05:31:59] | skd5aner: | Let me re-enter – I do think I remember seeing the 5c/encryption settings based on the active channel the STB is tuned to |
| [05:32:06] | mchou: | all the other crap in pastebin is just waste of time |
| [05:32:10] | skd5aner: | k |
| [05:32:35] | skd5aner: | firewire-tester is not the right tool to test? |
| [05:32:41] | mchou: | tune to your local PBS channel |
| [05:33:01] | mchou: | firewire tester is total waste of time |
| [05:33:23] | skd5aner: | Digital or SD? |
| [05:33:23] | mchou: | that's the problem with wikis |
| [05:33:27] | mchou: | HD |
| [05:33:47] | skd5aner: | mchou: thanks – I wasted a lot of time on that tool :( |
| [05:34:00] | mchou: | I told you |
| [05:34:16] | skd5aner: | yup – should have asked earlier, k let me tune and bring up diag |
| [05:34:30] | mchou: | that's the difference betw. clueless people and folks who actually know what they are doing |
| [05:34:54] | skd5aner: | yea – I see you helped write some of the contrib scripts right? |
| [05:35:09] | mchou: | no |
| [05:35:26] | mchou: | all my contribs are annonymous |
| [05:36:39] | skd5aner: | ah, sorry – thought I saw you write something for the 6200 in trac |
| [05:36:57] | skd5aner: | anyway, I'm on PBS, and on the "Current Service Info" diag menu pg 21/26 |
| [05:38:33] | mchou: | need photos |
| [05:38:56] | mchou: | not unless you wanna type all that info |
| [05:39:32] | skd5aner: | yea, way too much to type |
| [05:39:36] | skd5aner: | just a sec |
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| [05:42:38] | skd5aner: | regarding test_mpeg2 – I do not see that on my distro. Once place I read said that it should be in a "libiec61883/examples" directory, but that does not appear to exist either |
| [05:43:00] | mchou: | you need to d/l and compile it |
| [05:43:28] | skd5aner: | k – I'll grab it |
| [05:43:36] | mchou: | it would be in libiec61883-devel |
| [05:43:59] | mchou: | probably alled compiled for your distro |
| [05:44:07] | mangus580: | did keymapping change slightly with 0.22? |
| [05:44:18] | mchou: | or libiec*-util or tools |
| [05:44:27] | mchou: | already* |
| [05:44:39] | skd5aner: | yea, I've already done apt-get install libiec61883-dev libiec61883–0 |
| [05:44:58] | skd5aner: | I'm wondering if the package changed for ubuntu 9.10, let me see if there is the util package |
| [05:45:15] | skd5aner: | apt-cache search libiec |
| [05:45:15] | skd5aner: | libiec61883–0 – an partial implementation of IEC 61883 |
| [05:45:15] | skd5aner: | libiec61883-dev – an partial implementation of IEC 61883 |
| [05:46:04] | mchou: | where is th photo? |
| [05:46:56] | skd5aner: | k – I'll take the photos |
| [05:55:28] | skd5aner: | mchou: you going to be around for a little while? |
| [05:55:36] | mchou: | nope |
| [05:55:49] | mchou: | need to go foraging |
| [05:55:55] | skd5aner: | k – figured it migh be getting late there, I'm offloading the pics |
| [05:56:30] | mchou: | for now I just need to see the PBS channel details |
| [05:56:41] | skd5aner: | k |
| [05:56:48] | mchou: | that should be one screen |
| [05:56:57] | skd5aner: | I'm not sure how valuable the info will be, but I'll let you determine that |
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| [06:02:23] | skd5aner: | mchou: uploading now |
| [06:04:08] | skd5aner: | http://imagebin.org/70911 |
| [06:05:29] | mchou: | I think you may be screwed |
| [06:05:45] | skd5aner: | ha – yea, that's what I kinda figured |
| [06:06:09] | skd5aner: | the menu's are way less helpful than they used to be in the older versions of the STB software :( |
| [06:06:19] | mchou: | I dont know for sure yet but it seems he programming is being streamed from their PVRs |
| [06:06:27] | mchou: | the* |
| [06:06:54] | skd5aner: | interesing... very possible, I know TWC is stating to test "playback" capabilities |
| [06:06:55] | mchou: | It's video on Demand from the headend PVR |
| [06:07:06] | mchou: | kind of like iptv |
| [06:07:09] | skd5aner: | noticed today that on TBS I specifically could even say "start over" |
| [06:07:10] | skd5aner: | yea |
| [06:07:48] | skd5aner: | well, I DO know that TWC started in late 2008 to roll out Switch Digital Video from their headends |
| [06:07:56] | mchou: | anyway, test-mpeg2 will tell you all you need to know |
| [06:08:06] | skd5aner: | our market was the TWCs test market :P |
| [06:08:17] | mchou: | I still want to see the other diag screens eventually |
| [06:08:42] | skd5aner: | ok – thanks mchou – I'll try to locate it and compile it, looks like ubuntu isn't doing anyone any favors by not packaging that |
| [06:09:18] | skd5aner: | I was wondering if it had anything to do with the modifiation of the 1394 stack within the kernel over the last couple years and that test-mpeg2 became stale? |
| [06:09:28] | mchou: | yup |
| [06:09:36] | mchou: | but it still works |
| [06:09:51] | skd5aner: | hey – anyway, sorry about the weird dialog earlier |
| [06:09:53] | mchou: | and iec* is not stale |
| [06:10:05] | skd5aner: | right... that's actually the newer portion correct? |
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| [06:10:25] | mchou: | that was around since the old days |
| [06:10:42] | skd5aner: | gotcha |
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| [06:10:59] | luis_: | hello in the mythbuntu install they ask me to choose a remote controller and IR Transmitter, they i also make me choose what service I want, i live in Panamá (central america), what should i choose? |
| [06:11:30] | skd5aner: | thanks for stickin' around and taking a look at this, I'll try out test_mpeg2 and report back and let you know how it went |
| [06:11:32] | luis_: | in the service list i clicked everyone (5 in total= |
| [06:12:04] | skd5aner: | ultimately, I'd be happy if I could just get firewire to work for channel changing alone, even if I couldn't stream video from it |
| [06:12:18] | mchou: | that should work |
| [06:12:40] | skd5aner: | k – what's the proper way to "test" that? |
| [06:13:01] | mchou: | 6200ch or sd* channel changer |
| [06:13:07] | mchou: | I forget which one |
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| [06:13:22] | mchou: | all command line driver |
| [06:13:26] | luis_: | hello in the mythbuntu install they ask me to choose a remote controller and IR Transmitter, they i also make me choose what service I want, i live in Panamá (central america), what should i choose? |
| [06:13:26] | mchou: | driven* |
| [06:13:28] | luis_: | in the service list i clicked everyone (5 in total) |
| [06:13:32] | skd5aner: | k, I did see in the mailing list that at least 1 person using this model of STB (not sure what provider) tried using the SD4250 script with some success |
| [06:13:56] | skd5aner: | luis_: I don't run the mythbuntu distro, what "services" is it referring to? |
| [06:15:12] | skd5aner: | luis_: give me a few examples of what's in the list |
| [06:15:22] | luis_: | damn i just clicked install... |
| [06:15:36] | skd5aner: | do you remember any of them off the top of your head? |
| [06:15:51] | luis_: | MythTV service |
| [06:15:53] | luis_: | mmm... |
| [06:15:59] | luis_: | SD |
| [06:16:22] | luis_: | something than u need to suscribe for 20$ the year for North America users (LOL) |
| [06:16:30] | skd5aner: | mchou: saw you said earlier "37" channels in the clear that TWC does – it's actually less than that |
| [06:16:34] | luis_: | and thats all i can remember... =) |
| [06:16:48] | skd5aner: | Yes, SD was probably schedules direct – unless you are in North America, you do NOT want to run SD |
| [06:16:49] | luis_: | i will install the all... doesnt matter... one thing, about infrared remote controll and IR transmitter, can i change that later after the install is done? |
| [06:16:53] | luis_: | them* |
| [06:16:58] | skd5aner: | but, you should be able to change it after the install |
| [06:17:17] | luis_: | yes? remote controll means TV control? |
| [06:17:58] | skd5aner: | yes – you can change any of the remote controll settings – it's all within LIRC |
| [06:18:17] | luis_: | skd5aner: i wanna ask u something about this distro... |
| [06:18:25] | luis_: | if i buy a new PC for making a HTPC |
| [06:18:33] | luis_: | and i format the disk, and install Mythbuntu |
| [06:18:49] | skd5aner: | myth just interfaces with LIRC, so the changes will probably be in the lirc conf file – not sure if mythbuntu exposes those settings any other way, myth itself doesn't |
| [06:19:00] | luis_: | if i later want to use it to for things like OpenOffice, it will be the same like using kubuntu? |
| [06:19:25] | Memphisau: | you can yes, simply run apt-get install kubuntu-desktop |
| [06:19:35] | luis_: | nice |
| [06:19:37] | Memphisau: | and it will load on KDE etc.. and basically make it kubuntu |
| [06:19:41] | skd5aner: | to be perfectly honest with you, I don't know but I think you can still use the repository to install any of hte official ubuntu/kubuntu packages |
| [06:19:58] | luis_: | oh yes, i saw the live cd |
| [06:20:02] | luis_: | u could use bash |
| [06:20:02] | skd5aner: | memphisau: thanks for clarifying :) |
| [06:20:25] | Memphisau: | no worries |
| [06:20:37] | luis_: | oh well thx, so i saw like this: buy new intel PC, formating, installing Mythbuntu, then installing KDE, all set? |
| [06:20:47] | skd5aner: | I use the server base ubuntu distro, so I can't speak to the mythdora/mythbuntu/knoppix ways of the world |
| [06:21:35] | luis_: | i have much other questions... like connecting my TV to the HTPC and using the tv control to control the PC.. but i will ask them later for when i have my new intel PC |
| [06:21:39] | luis_: | thx skd5aner |
| [06:21:59] | skd5aner: | luis_: TV control OF myth is something that I haven't heard of |
| [06:22:18] | luis_: | connecting tv to HTPC? |
| [06:23:04] | skd5aner: | with the exception of something like uPnP |
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| [06:23:20] | skd5aner: | yes, mythtv is COMMONLY connected to a TV |
| [06:23:26] | skd5aner: | for displaying the video |
| [06:23:33] | skd5aner: | instead of a computer monitor |
| [06:24:03] | skd5aner: | probably a misinterpretation on my part, sorry |
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| [06:24:23] | skd5aner: | "tv control" = "remote control" in the US |
| [06:24:26] | skd5aner: | I understand now |
| [06:24:49] | luis_: | oh! |
| [06:25:01] | skd5aner: | yes, extremely commmon – that's what LIRC provides, the ability to take an infrared remote and control your computer with your remote/tv controller |
| [06:25:26] | luis_: | u need aditional hardware to support the remote control? |
| [06:26:00] | skd5aner: | yes, but it's relatively cheap to buy, and even easy to make if you have the desire |
| [06:26:32] | skd5aner: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/LIRC |
| [06:26:37] | skd5aner: | that'll help you get started |
| [06:26:44] | skd5aner: | mythbuntu has that all built in for you |
| [06:27:17] | luis_: | skd5aner: 1 question, i downloaded virtual box to test Mythbuntu, and for example, if i wanna test the HTPC using my laptop from now to see what it will look like, what cable should i need to connect my tv to my laptop? |
| [06:27:33] | luis_: | what it will look like before buying my intel* |
| [06:27:47] | skd5aner: | depends on the inputs on your TV |
| [06:27:55] | skd5aner: | and the outputs on your laptop |
| [06:28:16] | skd5aner: | if your laptop has DVI and your TV has HDMI, you can use a DVI-->HDMI cable or converter |
| [06:28:28] | luis_: | is because come on... i am always fan of this linux world, and the proyect of making a HTPC with free software sounds interesting, and i wanna use the full capabilities of my bravi 52' =) |
| [06:28:39] | luis_: | proyect and challenge* |
| [06:28:47] | skd5aner: | otherwise, composite, component, VGA, SVIDEO, VGA, etc |
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| [06:29:08] | luis_: | i will ask in my locar electronics store, thx for the cable info =D |
| [06:29:12] | luis_: | local* |
| [06:29:40] | skd5aner: | although, I think myth within a VM isn't necessarily the best scenario, but it "could" work |
| [06:29:41] | skd5aner: | Unfortunately, it's late and I've got to go – good luck luis, lots of helpful people around these parts |
| [06:30:22] | skd5aner: | check out the mailing lists, wiki, etc – lots of your questions have already been answered and should be easy to find |
| [06:31:10] | luis_: | thx, have a good night! |
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| [06:33:25] | PeaceKeeper: | humm ok I think I must have missed a package somewhere. First mc.sql is not here and now sa3250ch is missing |
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| [06:43:02] | Gumby: | PeaceKeeper: can you not use yum to search for the missing files? |
| [06:43:27] | PeaceKeeper: | i tried that |
| [06:43:28] | PeaceKeeper: | :( |
| [06:43:44] | PeaceKeeper: | Warning: No matches found for: sa3250ch |
| [06:44:16] | PeaceKeeper: | maybe it has changed, but it looks like that is right |
| [06:44:36] | PeaceKeeper: | i use that to change channel of firewire |
| [06:44:42] | Gumby: | what distro? |
| [06:46:24] | Gumby: | you have mythtv backend package installed? |
| [06:47:07] | PeaceKeeper: | fedora |
| [06:47:08] | PeaceKeeper: | 11 |
| [06:47:09] | PeaceKeeper: | yes |
| [06:47:45] | Essobi: | Heh.. |
| [06:48:09] | Essobi: | Does VDPAU mean I can have a weeee tiny unix box on my TV set now that's is a monster? |
| [06:48:17] | PeaceKeeper: | http://pastebin.com/m4510f220 |
| [06:48:59] | Essobi: | I'm updating now. |
| [06:49:00] | Essobi: | Heh |
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| [06:55:06] | PeaceKeeper: | ok had to install mythtv-docs |
| [06:55:10] | PeaceKeeper: | I think I have it now |
| [06:55:31] | Gumby: | I saw it there, but wasnt sure if it was a file or just referred to within a file |
| [06:56:33] | PeaceKeeper: | it is a file you have to compile |
| [06:56:34] | PeaceKeeper: | :D |
| [06:56:42] | Gumby: | ahh |
| [06:56:43] | Gumby: | hehe |
| [06:57:33] | PeaceKeeper: | installed libavc1394-devel and it compiled fine |
| [06:57:45] | PeaceKeeper: | now on to the next issue :) |
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| [08:10:31] | PeaceKeeper: | anyone get firewire channel changing running in F11? |
| [08:10:35] | PeaceKeeper: | in = on |
| [08:10:41] | PeaceKeeper: | man this is a pain in the rear |
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| [11:14:57] | TFyre: | aloa :) im running mythbunto 9.10/karmic |
| [11:15:03] | TFyre: | and have a porblem with my audio |
| [11:15:14] | TFyre: | analogue audo 5.1 (3 stereo jacks) |
| [11:15:22] | TFyre: | VLC plays 100% fine |
| [11:15:52] | TFyre: | the myth internal player doesnt want to play |
| [11:15:57] | TFyre: | the sound... |
| [11:16:04] | TFyre: | the video part is 100% fine |
| [11:16:14] | TFyre: | any ideas? |
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| [11:17:46] | TFyre: | audio output: ALSA:default |
| [11:17:49] | TFyre: | channels: 5.1 |
| [11:18:13] | TFyre: | speaker-test also works fine on all channels |
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| [11:32:59] | sid3windr: | using pulseaudio? |
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| [11:40:36] | TFyre: | nope |
| [11:40:44] | TFyre: | but i have tested with pulseaudio |
| [11:40:47] | TFyre: | same thing |
| [11:41:40] | sid3windr: | yes, because pulse would sux :p |
| [11:41:46] | TFyre: | hehe |
| [11:41:53] | TFyre: | any other thins u want me to test/do/paste? |
| [11:43:03] | sid3windr: | no clue |
| [11:43:52] | TFyre: | arghh |
| [11:43:52] | TFyre: | been struggling 2 days alreyad |
| [11:43:52] | TFyre: | VDPAU works GREAT!!! |
| [11:43:52] | TFyre: | only problem is the audio now :( |
| [11:43:52] | TFyre: | thx!! |
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| [12:03:51] | Jonny0stars: | Hello just a quick question, I use mythtv over wifi (which works if i'm in or around a good signal area) my question is if there is a way to set the cache on the client |
| [12:06:00] | Jonny0stars: | Im sure it would be fine if I could wait a few seconds at the start of each program for it to buffer |
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| [12:12:43] | Jonny0stars: | Anyone? |
| [12:14:31] | justinh: | nope |
| [12:15:13] | justinh: | and by that I mean the cache size cannot be determined by the user AFAIK |
| [12:16:14] | justinh: | you could in theory do that if you use NFS rather than mythtv's own streaming – i.e. export the recordings directory (if you only have one) & mount it on a remote frontend |
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| [12:19:33] | Jonny0stars: | ah ok, I might just watch the files on sshfs as that seems to work |
| [12:19:47] | Jonny0stars: | thanks justinh |
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| [12:20:46] | justinh: | no need for sshfs. how paranoid? ;-) |
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| [12:22:22] | Jonny0stars: | meh its just easier than NFS |
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| [12:23:21] | Jonny0stars: | besides i have no need to be paranoid as I live in a giant Faraday cage |
| [12:24:11] | Jonny0stars: | Unfortunately my wifi AP is outside the cage |
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| [12:54:39] | justinh: | how can anything be easier than nfs? lol |
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| [13:08:40] | Archer_: | Hi, everybody. :) |
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| [13:34:02] | oobe: | yay .22 is latest stable |
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| [13:34:34] | dustybin: | mythtv .22 has been rock solid stable for me so far, no crashes from EIT at all :D |
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| [13:35:06] | dustybin: | its now time to get fanart working :D |
| [13:35:37] | dustybin: | that clear OSD is lovely |
| [13:37:40] | oobe: | i dont use EIT |
| [13:39:42] | oobe: | when did you upgrade from .21 ? dustybin |
| [13:39:49] | dustybin: | yesterday |
| [13:44:59] | oobe: | nice |
| [13:45:13] | oobe: | was that the release date |
| [13:45:30] | oobe: | im assuming it was |
| [13:45:57] | dustybin: | more or less yes |
| [13:46:03] | oobe: | there is still one small issue that annoys me |
| [13:46:11] | dustybin: | whats that |
| [13:46:14] | oobe: | i thought it would be fixed before release |
| [13:46:24] | oobe: | http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/7322 |
| [13:46:32] | oobe: | thats my ticket about it |
| [13:46:56] | dustybin: | hold on a tic, ill fix it for you |
| [13:47:00] | ** dustybin fires up C++ ** | |
| [13:47:32] | oobe: | wish i could do that |
| [13:47:57] | dustybin: | me too :D |
| [13:48:35] | dustybin: | mythtv always has a habit of hiding its treasures, im sure ill figure out how to get fanart working at some point |
| [13:48:50] | anykey_: | did anyone notice that 0.22-fixes does not compile right now? |
| [13:51:33] | anykey_: | fails @ videodisplayprofile.cpp:864, no matching function for call to VideoDisplayProfile::CreateProfile |
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| [13:52:37] | oobe: | anykey_, no i just built twice today |
| [13:52:57] | oobe: | err maybe once but it was 5 mins ago |
| [13:53:04] | anykey_: | oobe: with VDPAU enabled? |
| [13:53:11] | oobe: | MythTV Version : 22775 |
| [13:53:30] | oobe: | anykey_, yes vdpau and most if not all other options |
| [13:55:11] | anykey_: | oobe: 22759 compiles fine for me, 22775 does not |
| [13:55:39] | oobe: | try doing a make clean |
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| [13:57:30] | anykey_: | I think portage exports the source on every emerge, so I don't think that will help |
| [13:59:19] | oobe: | unless portage makes clean or deletes the source tree then re downloads the i dont see how |
| [13:59:56] | anykey_: | it creates a temp dir for compilation every time. well, I can live with 22759 for now ;) |
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| [14:03:12] | oobe: | just try downloading the source and doing it the old fashined way |
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| [14:14:40] | BlueCamel: | I have a Mythbuntu 9.04 0.21-fixes BE/FE that I'm looking to update to 0.22-fixes. I'm okay leaving it at 9.04. Does the mythtbuntu trunk-0.22 follow svn 0.22-fixes ? |
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| [14:18:17] | laga: | BlueCamel: http://mythbuntu.org/Upgrading |
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| [14:21:02] | BlueCamel: | laga: so, with mythbuntu-repos installed according to my dpkg -l output, I've done the "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and no mythtv packages were updated |
| [14:22:08] | BlueCamel: | that's why I'm wondering if I need to also switch repos from stable to something else |
| [14:23:25] | janneg: | anykey_: jya: [22760] misses a #include "libmythtv/videodisplayprofile.h" in programs/mythfrontend/globalsettings.cpp |
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| [14:29:38] | dustybin: | i wonder where this hidden menu option is |
| [14:29:41] | dustybin: | Now you can use the mythvideo download feature "Manage Video|Download Metadata" to get a TV series artwork (poster, fanart and banner) plus episode details. |
| [14:30:15] | BlueCamel: | I haven't loaded 0.22 yet, but iirc that's when you're browsing videos |
| [14:30:24] | BlueCamel: | you can hit INFO I think to pop it up |
| [14:30:39] | BlueCamel: | someone on the list was talking about that |
| [14:30:49] | dustybin: | im in the video list |
| [14:31:04] | iamlindoro: | dustybin: Where is that quote from? |
| [14:31:08] | dustybin: | if i hit menu, a video display menu pops up, but it doesnt have that option |
| [14:31:15] | dustybin: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Ttvdb.py |
| [14:31:36] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_.22_Transition_Guide |
| [14:31:41] | dustybin: | aye thanks |
| [14:33:15] | ]Oscar: | I'm having trouble trying to compile mythvideo plugin. I got errors I think qt related, but seems to have all qt-dev libs installed,... |
| [14:34:00] | BlueCamel: | ah, needed to run dpkg-reconfigure mythbuntu-repos first |
| [14:34:02] | dustybin: | BLOODY HELL |
| [14:34:03] | BlueCamel: | to select 0.22 |
| [14:34:19] | ** dustybin falls off chair ** | |
| [14:34:26] | dustybin: | holy lords |
| [14:36:38] | dustybin: | this is serious stuff |
| [14:36:50] | dustybin: | i have never seen mythtv look so good in my life |
| [14:36:53] | ]Oscar: | for examlpe: "error: QVariant has not been declared". What is missing? |
| [14:37:37] | dustybin: | its now time to do a symlink to the graphite backgrounds dir to the fanart dir :D |
| [14:38:03] | dustybin: | i now have full size images of my pr0n videos as backgrounds :D |
| [14:38:10] | dustybin: | *only joking* :D |
| [14:40:52] | dustybin: | i am totally shocked |
| [14:41:38] | dustybin: | fanart makes lovely backgrounds |
| [14:44:14] | ]Oscar: | non c'era nella vcard? |
| [14:44:19] | ]Oscar: | ooppss... |
| [14:45:42] | janneg: | ]Oscar: which Qt version? |
| [14:48:02] | ]Oscar: | janneg: configure say qmake -> qmake-qt4. |
| [14:48:12] | ]Oscar: | does it helps? |
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| [15:14:20] | dustybin: | the screen setup wizard sets my screen to the wrong size |
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| [15:14:41] | dustybin: | it worked the first time i used it, it seems to rememeber settings |
| [15:14:53] | dustybin: | mythfrontend --reset didnt work |
| [15:15:23] | dustybin: | there is no option in the screen setup wizard to 'reset' |
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| [15:15:31] | dustybin: | im sure .21 had the reset option |
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| [15:21:37] | trumee: | guys, why does mythtv need to go through channels.conf, if an external scan has already been done? |
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| [15:22:17] | trumee: | is it possible to import channels.conf directly to the database without doing a scan again in mythtv-setup? |
| [15:22:27] | mchou: | trumee: cause the internal scan is generally borked |
| [15:22:41] | mchou: | trumee: used to |
| [15:22:52] | bobbies: | I can't seem to get .22 mythvideo to see videos in my video directory |
| [15:22:57] | mchou: | havent tried it in 0.22 |
| [15:23:09] | bobbies: | its on a seperate drive than the install |
| [15:23:14] | trumee: | if i do a dvbscan, cant i import the channels.conf directly |
| [15:23:39] | mchou: | trumee: like I said, used to. dunno about now |
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| [15:48:22] | oobe: | dustybin, you can reset the screen by going backinto the wizard and pressing M also i found resize doesnt work well with xfce so i switched to fluxbox |
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| [15:55:18] | trumee: | guys, why mythweb doesnt show am or pm against time in listings. |
| [15:56:03] | trumee: | is there a way to select 24 hour clock in mythweb. |
| [15:56:49] | oobe: | must be your system settings it shows am and pm in my mythweb listings |
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| [15:59:43] | trumee: | The Search Results is set as "%a %b %e, %Y, :%M %p" in mythweb settings |
| [15:59:51] | trumee: | what is your string |
| [16:00:10] | uhsf: | docs say to use mysql -u root -p < /usr/share/mythtv/mc.sql but there is no mc.sql file, why wasn't it created? |
| [16:00:15] | BlueCamel: | Hmm, the mythbuntu 0.22 repo seems dated |
| [16:01:04] | jams: | uhsf- did you install from source? |
| [16:01:27] | uhsf: | yes |
| [16:02:18] | uhsf: | my distro is arch linux and i used the user repository package |
| [16:02:32] | uhsf: | i'm not sure if it's really from source |
| [16:02:47] | jams: | it might have been excluded from the pkg |
| [16:02:53] | jams: | got a link the pkgbuild? |
| [16:03:13] | uhsf: | http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18004 |
| [16:03:19] | jams: | guess if you made the pkg yourself it will be in src/mythtv*/database |
| [16:03:51] | uhsf: | i didn't use the official package because it uses qt3 and i prefer qt4 |
| [16:04:20] | jams: | just look in src/mythtv*/database |
| [16:04:24] | jams: | mc.sql will be there |
| [16:05:48] | uhsf: | ok, i found it ty, i looked in the package files but not carefully enough it seems |
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| [16:15:24] | mangus580: | morning gang |
| [16:15:31] | mangus580: | anyone using huludesktop with 0.22? |
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| [16:16:35] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: i was supposed to remind you to backport some one-character fix in the python bindings after the 0.22 release |
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| [16:19:59] | fabio__27: | hi, i'm using mythtv 0.22 on mythbuntu 9.10. I want to use the screen resize wizard it to compensate the large overscan. But when i adjust the sliders to match the tv scren size and then save that, the frontend is not fullscreen anymore. It is resized, but now only fills about 3/4 of the screen. any help? |
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| [16:40:53] | Josh__: | Okay, with the recent ubuntu 9.10 upgrade, a lot of shared libs got updated. Now, mythtv still compiles, but when I attempt to run the binary, I get failures due to the "missing" libs (that were only upgraded). How can I get myth to use the new versions of these shared libs when compiling? |
| [16:43:12] | tank-man: | make clean |
| [16:43:13] | tank-man: | maybe |
| [16:43:28] | Josh__: | tank-man, that hasnt had any effect.. I'm trying a distclean now |
| [16:45:34] | Josh__: | I'm reading that an 'ldconfig' should fix my problem, but it hasnt made an effect either. |
| [16:48:36] | tank-man: | you ran taht before compiling? |
| [16:49:28] | uhsf: | error: Mythtv is using all inputs, but there are no active recordings? |
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| [16:54:09] | Josh__: | tank-man, yes sir. |
| [16:54:28] | Josh__: | uhsf, restart the backend. Usually that's caused by frontends crashing during playback. |
| [16:58:39] | uhsf: | Josh__: you solved it, ty |
| [16:59:47] | uhsf: | now the most difficult part of my setup: There is video, but why is there no sound? |
| [16:59:48] | Josh__: | uhsf, when a frontend is watching livetv and crashes (or is killed) without being allowed to release the tuner, that tuner is "stuck" and no longer available until the backend is restarted. |
| [17:00:21] | Josh__: | uhsf, that's complicated. Make sure your sound works before configuring mythtv |
| [17:01:00] | uhsf: | my sound works fine with everything but my tv tuner card |
| [17:02:15] | uhsf: | i had no sound with mplayer, xawtv and tvtime but i thougth maybe mythtv would have some other option available to enable sound |
| [17:02:43] | uhsf: | so i guess that leaves me to the same point i was yesterday |
| [17:06:06] | Josh__: | uhsf, what card? |
| [17:06:24] | Josh__: | mabye the card is not recording sound |
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| [17:11:07] | uhsf: | it's pcHDTV HD5500 [cx8800] |
| [17:11:36] | wagnerrp: | then youre doing it wrong |
| [17:11:46] | wagnerrp: | that card should be used for digital only |
| [17:12:29] | uhsf: | so i won't get any analog sound from this card at all ever? |
| [17:12:41] | wagnerrp: | you can if you set it up right |
| [17:12:53] | wagnerrp: | but its generally considered not worth the effort |
| [17:14:40] | uhsf: | why is it so hard to set up sound with this card? |
| [17:14:52] | wagnerrp: | because its a framegrabber |
| [17:15:07] | wagnerrp: | either you have to set it up as a sound device, and set up audio capture for it |
| [17:15:19] | wagnerrp: | or you have to loop it through the line-in on your sound card |
| [17:15:54] | wagnerrp: | the recommended solution for analog is an IVTV (ivtvdriver.org) mpeg encoder card |
| [17:16:18] | uhsf: | i tried to loop through the line-in but the socket on the HD5500 is line-in itself |
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| [17:17:59] | uhsf: | HD5500 is such a fukin waste |
| [17:20:13] | wagnerrp: | why? it works great for digital |
| [17:20:31] | wagnerrp: | you didnt buy that card specifically for analog did you? |
| [17:20:49] | wagnerrp: | in that case, then yes, it is a 'fukin waste' |
| [17:21:16] | justinh: | uhsf: language |
| [17:22:22] | uhsf: | wagnerrp: if you say HD5500 can be set up as a sound device it must be documented somewhere |
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| [17:22:46] | wagnerrp: | it must be, try their website |
| [17:23:01] | wagnerrp: | theyre one of the few companies that actually provides drivers and documentation for use under linux |
| [17:23:23] | uhsf: | their website wasn't updated since 2006 i think |
| [17:23:40] | wagnerrp: | the card may very well be that old |
| [17:23:48] | justinh: | pcHDTV cards don't have mpeg encoders onboard IIRC |
| [17:23:52] | justinh: | no onboard audio capture either |
| [17:24:40] | uhsf: | but why is there some conexant card thing in alsamixer? |
| [17:25:04] | justinh: | prolly because they *could* have made it capture audio but didn't |
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| [17:26:17] | justinh: | from the PC HDTV wiki: "You should also connect the audio out of the card to the aux input of your sound card.! |
| [17:26:32] | justinh: | http://www.pchdtv.com/wiki/index.php/Hardware |
| [17:27:02] | uhsf: | i know i tried this |
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| [17:27:30] | uhsf: | the socket on the HD5500 is written line-in on it |
| [17:27:56] | coffee412: | Would there be any major problems upgrading from ver .20.2 to the new .22? |
| [17:28:29] | justinh: | http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_5500.html says not |
| [17:30:00] | wagnerrp: | coffee412: assuming you have no database issues, yes |
| [17:30:06] | wagnerrp: | er... no, no major problems |
| [17:30:59] | uhsf: | well your previous link said: 1/8" audio _out_ jack |
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| [17:31:09] | coffee412: | wagnerrp: Ok, thanks, My mythbox is running fedora 7 and Im going to probably upgrade to 11 and then reinstall from tarballs of mythtv. |
| [17:31:11] | justinh: | jees do they not even have manuals to download/ |
| [17:31:49] | uhsf: | sorry your previous link said: 1/8" audio _in_ jack |
| [17:32:01] | uhsf: | same as on the card in front of me |
| [17:32:32] | justinh: | from the pic on the page I'd have said it's an input too |
| [17:32:37] | ** coffee412 leaves to ponder his upgrade --- GO MythTV! ** | |
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| [17:33:26] | uhsf: | but why does the HD5500 page says: One stereo connection jack to sound card for analog TV? |
| [17:33:51] | uhsf: | they say the HD5500 support analog TV right there. |
| [17:34:07] | uhsf: | very confusing |
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| [17:34:11] | wagnerrp: | correct, but apparently it has no audio capture hardware |
| [17:34:25] | wagnerrp: | you tune with the card, and the card outputs to your sound card via loopback cable |
| [17:34:39] | wagnerrp: | its fairly common behavior for framegrabbers |
| [17:34:50] | justinh: | maybe the socket should say TO Line In lol |
| [17:35:36] | wagnerrp: | framegrabbers are dirt cheap, and only intended for livetv viewing |
| [17:35:42] | wagnerrp: | you get what you pay for |
| [17:35:48] | justinh: | seems some sources think it has onboard audio capture |
| [17:36:02] | justinh: | even the all knowing mythtv wiki |
| [17:36:03] | wagnerrp: | in this case, you paid for a digital tuner, and got an analog framegrabber in the bundle |
| [17:36:16] | uhsf: | 100$US is live cheap? |
| [17:36:28] | mchou: | lol |
| [17:37:41] | justinh: | so where aren't you getting audio from TV? |
| [17:38:26] | uhsf: | what do you mean where? |
| [17:38:37] | justinh: | which program |
| [17:39:11] | uhsf: | any tv program, mplayer, xawtv, tvtime, mythtv |
| [17:39:33] | justinh: | you won't get audio in mplayer, xawtv or tvtime since they don' |
| [17:39:35] | justinh: | don |
| [17:39:37] | justinh: | arghh |
| [17:39:46] | justinh: | they don't capture audio from a device |
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| [17:40:10] | uhsf: | i tried to use sox but maybe i use it wrong |
| [17:40:25] | justinh: | & if it *has* got onboard audio & you're not getting it in mythtv then maybe you just didn't specify the right audio device in mythtv-setup's V4L card page |
| [17:40:56] | uhsf: | i tried them all |
| [17:41:31] | uhsf: | ALSA-default? ALSA-analog? |
| [17:41:55] | justinh: | more like a /dev/dsp device I'd have thought |
| [17:42:14] | justinh: | anyway it's rather a waste of money for an analogue capture card |
| [17:42:24] | wagnerrp: | the ALSA stuff is for output |
| [17:42:44] | wagnerrp: | mythtv uses the old OSS interfaces, like justinh said '/dev/dsp[x]' |
| [17:43:11] | wagnerrp: | i remember seeing some stuff in trac for ALSA capture but i dont know if it ever got committed |
| [17:43:52] | uhsf: | i also tried /dev/dsp and /dev/dsp1 |
| [17:44:11] | mchou: | this stuff aint rocket science |
| [17:44:56] | mchou: | pulg in a head phone to the capture card, make sude=re you get audio when using mplayer tvtime whatever |
| [17:45:09] | mchou: | sure* |
| [17:45:39] | mchou: | verify basic functionality first |
| [17:45:43] | justinh: | what about if you just open the tv card in tvtime tuned to a channel & try grabbing audio with soundrec or whatever |
| [17:46:00] | justinh: | apply a bit of lateral thinking to the problem |
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| [17:47:04] | mchou: | once you've verified that capture card is outputting sound directly, plug it to line in/mic of the sound card |
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| [17:47:52] | mchou: | the key here is to make sure "capture/record" is enabled on the appropriate sound card input |
| [17:48:16] | mchou: | and also that the line/mic is NOT muted |
| [17:48:59] | mchou: | they it will work right in myth |
| [17:49:10] | mchou: | s/they/then |
| [17:50:01] | mchou: | if the hd5500 uses bttv it might also have snd-pci |
| [17:50:27] | mchou: | where no loop cable would be necessary |
| [17:52:32] | justinh: | whee finally done with the notebook HDD transplant! |
| [18:03:15] | uhsf: | please read the last post in this thread http://www.pchdtv.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=19922#19922, either HD5500 card features analog audio capture or this guy is a liar. |
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| [18:04:20] | mchou: | no, the guy is not lying |
| [18:04:33] | mchou: | I just told you how to accomplish it |
| [18:06:04] | mchou: | chances are your distro didnt load the snd-pci driver for hd5500 |
| [18:06:11] | uhsf: | i did everything you said mchou everything is unmuted in alsamixer |
| [18:06:30] | mchou: | dude.... |
| [18:06:42] | mchou: | READ |
| [18:07:20] | uhsf: | what is it then? modprobe snd-pci index=1? i tried this also. |
| [18:07:55] | mchou: | it's not called snd-pci |
| [18:08:15] | mchou: | I'm using that name because I dont recall what it is |
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| [18:56:45] | luis_: | hello, if i grab an old (maybe from 2000–2003, dont remember) HP pavilion a1720n, what i need to modify for it to be able to use at full capabilities with speed MythTV and reproduces HD and do all things new desktop computers do? like changing RAM? can u help me? |
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| [18:58:26] | Makere: | that's not 2000–2003 |
| [18:58:36] | Makere: | it's maybe 2006–2007 |
| [18:58:36] | laga: | what youneed to modify? |
| [18:58:39] | laga: | that's easy |
| [18:58:48] | laga: | ah, okay, if it's newer.. |
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| [18:59:10] | Makere: | install TV card and some Geforce card capable of VDPAU |
| [18:59:24] | Makere: | plus more ram |
| [18:59:42] | Makere: | I think that should do it |
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| [19:01:51] | KungFuJesus: | Hello, I have had a frontend running for a very long time. So long, in fact, that it's keeping a lot of stuff that's broken for mythnews and mythweather to the point where it pretty much doesn't work |
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| [19:02:31] | KungFuJesus: | How do I reinstall these so that it doesn't keep the previous settings? I removed the tables related to news and weather, but now the frontend log just complains that the tables don't exist |
| [19:03:10] | Makere: | you running what variant of linux? |
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| [19:03:47] | bobbies: | I can't seem to get .22 mythvideo to see videos in my video directory |
| [19:03:52] | KungFuJesus: | gentoo |
| [19:04:08] | KungFuJesus: | is this something that's supposed to be handled by the package manager? |
| [19:04:33] | Makere: | well in ubuntu you can use purge which should clean the installation |
| [19:04:43] | Makere: | I think emerge should have something similar |
| [19:05:05] | KungFuJesus: | hmm |
| [19:05:56] | KungFuJesus: | dropping the related databases should have done it |
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| [19:13:14] | luis_: | hello, if i grab an old (maybe from 2000–2003, dont remember) HP pavilion a1720n, what i need to modify for it to be able to use at full capabilities with speed MythTV and reproduces HD and do all things new desktop computers do? like changing RAM? can u help me? |
| [19:16:16] | bobbies: | ok, now I can see my videos in mythvideo but every file is duplicated For example I have for my filename info: Band of Brother/01 – Currahee.avi and the next entry is Filename: /media/Media/Videos/TV/Band of Brothers/01 – Currahee.avi. These are the same file, one is reporting the complete path and the other is reporting just its directory. Has anyone seen anything like this before? |
| [19:16:57] | [R]: | luis_: the only way you'll get HD is with an nvidia card that cna do VDPAU |
| [19:19:04] | luis_: | [R]: that exists? |
| [19:19:18] | [R]: | luis_: no... i'm telling you to get something that doesnt' exist |
| [19:19:26] | luis_: | roflmaool... |
| [19:19:44] | luis_: | so no way to recicle my dear pavilion... |
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| [19:20:17] | luis_: | [R]: u have a PC in mind? i am not expert in thinking what can be a good PC with good specifications for using MythTV for a HTPC |
| [19:20:28] | luis_: | i mean, to buy it |
| [19:20:31] | KungFuJesus: | man it's nice to be able to look at the code |
| [19:20:46] | govatent: | hey guys. is it possible to change the apache mythweb server to another port? |
| [19:20:58] | [R]: | luis_: there are tons of people who talk about that on the mailing lists |
| [19:21:24] | [R]: | govatent: thats an apache question... nothing to do with mythweb |
| [19:21:25] | luis_: | [R]: ? |
| [19:21:36] | govatent: | [R], ok will do. thanks |
| [19:22:24] | luis_: | [R]: where are the mailing lists? they have recommendations of what PCs to buy? |
| [19:22:36] | [R]: | luis_: on the mythtv website... |
| [19:24:29] | dustybin: | does the QT toolkit have a engine to make things scroll smoothly? |
| [19:25:19] | [R]: | "things"? |
| [19:25:25] | luis_: | [R]: I lol'd when i saw this... http://centerclick.org/computers/yukon/ didnt knew making a MythTV Box was soo complicated... all those cables >_> |
| [19:26:06] | [R]: | luis_: all? huh? |
| [19:26:13] | luis_: | i mean |
| [19:26:18] | laga: | is it amateur night again? :) |
| [19:26:32] | luis_: | didnt born knowing.. |
| [19:27:22] | luis_: | [R]: what means this...http://pastebin.ca/1662380 |
| [19:28:05] | [R]: | luis_: huh? |
| [19:28:41] | Josh__: | Hmm. Myth is no longer able to use my PVR150 |
| [19:28:48] | luis_: | what i mean, than the MythBox needs assembly, i thinked i only needed to install Mythbuntu Z_Z |
| [19:28:52] | Josh__: | mplayer works just fine though |
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| [19:30:01] | govatent: | another question which i think i can ask here, how can i use mythtv to capture from the composite input of my pvr150? |
| [19:30:32] | [R]: | govatent: the same way you can use it to capture from any input from it... |
| [19:30:41] | wagnerrp: | govatent: when you setup myth, in mythtv-setup, step 4 |
| [19:30:47] | wagnerrp: | it lists all the possible inputs to your card |
| [19:31:37] | AndrewNC: | should a 4850e be able to handle yadiff 2x on 1080i? |
| [19:32:18] | Josh__: | AndrewNC, it's an ATI card, AFAIK myth can't use hardware decoding on ati cards. |
| [19:32:26] | [R]: | AndrewNC: 1080i what |
| [19:32:29] | luis_: | i surrender... i will use my PS3 to watch my movies! X_X |
| [19:32:35] | Josh__: | so looks like your stuck with CPU encoding. |
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| [19:32:52] | AndrewNC: | AMD 4850e |
| [19:32:57] | AndrewNC: | the cpu |
| [19:33:29] | AndrewNC: | this is for an atsc mpeg2 stream |
| [19:33:31] | Josh__: | AndrewNC, I apologize, I didnt realize AMD was using that sort of terminology for thier CPUs. |
| [19:33:32] | sphery: | now you've got me sad that I couldn't get another dual-core 45W... :( |
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| [19:34:04] | AndrewNC: | have they released a new 45w product yet? |
| [19:34:08] | sphery: | AndrewNC: yadif 2x might be a stretch for the 4850e |
| [19:34:11] | Josh__: | sigh. |
| [19:34:16] | sphery: | on 1080i |
| [19:34:16] | Josh__: | stupid, stupid pvr150 |
| [19:34:28] | Josh__: | extremely frustrating |
| [19:34:46] | Josh__: | mplayer plays the video node just fine, so it must not be drivers or permissions. |
| [19:34:47] | AndrewNC: | yeah, thats what my experience was showing, but VDPAU deinterlace has been a headache on my 8300 IGP |
| [19:34:54] | sphery: | AndrewNC: they released the Regor-based 230e, 235e, and 240e, but there's no availability--all are going to Sony and HP for systems |
| [19:35:11] | AndrewNC: | are they $$$$ parts? |
| [19:35:19] | mangus580: | silly question... |
| [19:35:23] | mangus580: | if I set a series to record all |
| [19:35:32] | mangus580: | and I watch an episode.... then delete it |
| [19:35:43] | mangus580: | and that episode comes on again, will it re-record? |
| [19:35:48] | sphery: | if you're very lucky, though, you might be able to get yadif2x to work--though timestretch would likely be out of the question |
| [19:35:50] | Josh__: | mangus580, it depends what option you specified when you deleted it. |
| [19:36:16] | sphery: | mangus580: generally, no, but as Josh__ says, if you delete it by saying, "Delete and allow re-record", it will |
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| [19:36:43] | sphery: | mangus580: you can manage whether or not things are allowed to re-record (if you select the wrong one on delete) from Manage Recordings|Previous Recordings in mythfrontend |
| [19:36:55] | duke_: | Hi, guys! Why configure script tells me "x11 support no"? |
| [19:37:10] | mangus580: | cool, I figured as much... was just curious :-) |
| [19:37:12] | sphery: | duke_: X11 headers and/or libs in a non-standard location? |
| [19:37:15] | Josh__: | duke_, you're missing the X11 development libraries. |
| [19:37:22] | sphery: | or not installed... |
| [19:37:35] | sphery: | I always forget the obvious/most-likely ones |
| [19:38:11] | duke_: | no, i have all headers and libraries because i'm use LFS as my host system |
| [19:38:15] | mangus580: | well now all I gotta do for rolling my frontend out for full use... is get my scan converter |
| [19:38:27] | Josh__: | duke_, then they must be in a non-standard location. |
| [19:38:27] | sphery: | then likely you're missing stuff |
| [19:38:50] | sphery: | best bet is to read configure to see what it's looking for and find out if it's a non-standard place or if you just didn't install it |
| [19:39:55] | duke_: | Josh__: they located in /usr/X11R6/include and there is symlink for it |
| [19:39:57] | sphery: | or, other best bet is to use a different distro :) |
| [19:40:32] | sphery: | not /usr/include/X11 ? |
| [19:40:39] | sphery: | and /usr/X11R6/lib |
| [19:40:53] | Josh__: | duke_, as sphery mentioned, read through configure to find out where it expects to see them, and how it makes the distinction whether to include support. |
| [19:41:13] | sphery: | it wouldn't be looking under /usr/X11R6/include |
| [19:41:28] | Josh__: | FRICK |
| [19:41:31] | sphery: | if there's a symlink in /usr/inclue, then it might be ok |
| [19:41:47] | sphery: | really, though, LFS is one of the worst choices of distro for Myth |
| [19:41:51] | Josh__: | why the frick can't mythbackend use this card? |
| [19:41:56] | Josh__: | grrrRRRrrr |
| [19:42:00] | ** sphery says with some experience in the matter ** | |
| [19:42:30] | Josh__: | I'd even pick gentoo over LFS. |
| [19:42:32] | sphery: | not *the* worst--exherbo is worse |
| [19:42:56] | jya: | janneg: annykey_: "fails @ videodisplayprofile.cpp:864, no matching function for call to VideoDisplayProfile::CreateProfile" [22760] doesn't add CreateProfile ; it's always been there.. |
| [19:43:53] | sphery: | I'd almost say that LFS is a better choice than a certain other "compile your own" distro that I can't name for fear of upsetting the bloggers... that other distro encourages people to flip switches without knowing what they're doing and many of its users blame the projects instead of themselves when they mess up |
| [19:44:10] | sphery: | though those that actually take the time to learn what they're doing and do it right are fine with that distro |
| [19:44:27] | sphery: | jya: I'm guessing it's just a matter of differently-picky versions of gcc |
| [19:44:52] | sphery: | I have a very sloppy version when it comes to includes enforcement |
| [19:45:08] | jya: | sphery: still, if that's the case , it should have never compiled to start with ... and it should be in trunk too |
| [19:45:25] | jya: | the call to CreateProfile in globalsettings.cpp has been there for a *long* time |
| [19:45:52] | jya: | why would adding a CreateVDPAUProfile in the exact same location, suddenly creates an issue |
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| [19:47:24] | jya: | especially as the error shown above, isn't even on the VDPAU profile code |
| [19:48:45] | BlueCamel: | with mythbuntu 9.10 and the latest mythbuntu-repos, selecting ppa pulls from http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/trunk-0.22/ubuntu/ |
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| [19:48:53] | sphery: | yeah, you're right... it doesn't look like it should be a problem |
| [19:49:03] | sphery: | don't know what was going on, though |
| [19:49:12] | BlueCamel: | does anyone know if trunk-0.22 is 0.22-fixes in this case? |
| [19:49:28] | jya: | sphery: and look at line 4 of globalsettings.h |
| [19:49:39] | jya: | #include "libmythtv/videodisplayprofile.h" |
| [19:50:00] | sphery: | BlueCamel: it sounds like it should not be 0.22-fixes, but trunk. I don't know *buntu, though |
| [19:50:24] | BlueCamel: | alright. seems to be svn 22750 at the moment. |
| [19:50:34] | BlueCamel: | I'll keep an eye on it I guess. |
| [19:50:44] | sphery: | hmmm, yeah, must have been something else going on |
| [19:51:02] | sphery: | wonder if it was a linker error because it was looking at installed system libs instead of the just-compiled ones |
| [19:51:16] | bobbies: | Is there a good guide on how to use mythvideo metadata in .22? I cant seem to figure out the TV meta data properly. |
| [19:51:35] | sphery: | (though the phrasing sounds more like--but still not right for--a compiler error) |
| [19:51:37] | jya: | sphery: looks like it. Going to revert 22776, it bruises my ego :) |
| [19:51:38] | wagnerrp: | bobbies: the transition guide on the wiki |
| [19:52:18] | sphery: | might want to have anykey_ verify that it works without after a make clean/make distclean/removing system libs |
| [19:52:43] | bobbies: | wagnerrp: Thanks |
| [19:53:33] | sphery: | BlueCamel: did you check out http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Packages for info |
| [19:55:49] | bobbies: | what format should the files names be for TV shows? Series – ep# – ep title? |
| [19:56:47] | BlueCamel: | sphery: that wiki page is new to me. looks like the primary source of info is the mythbuntu web site for the Automatic Dialy builds |
| [19:57:25] | BlueCamel: | that auto-daily-builds page is dated though |
| [19:57:40] | BlueCamel: | there hasn't been a 0.21-fixes autobuild in months |
| [19:57:55] | BlueCamel: | 0.22 I think is in the stable branch now too |
| [19:58:04] | sphery: | the daily for 0.22-fixes daily would be good if there is one |
| [19:58:19] | sphery: | slightly redundant, but you get the idea |
| [19:58:21] | BlueCamel: | the ppa I pointed at was last updated on Nov 7 |
| [19:58:32] | BlueCamel: | so I guess tomorrow I'll check if it was updated on Nov 8 or 9th |
| [19:59:00] | BlueCamel: | ...and need to email the mythbuntu team and offer to help update some of the web site pages :) |
| [20:01:50] | uhsf: | in alsamixer -c 1 for tv tuner card there is an entry for playback with a vertical bar and there is an entry for capture but without vertical bar, does it mean that audio capture for tv tuner card is not enabled? |
| [20:02:48] | sphery: | BlueCamel: you can generally found a lot of the mythbuntu guys in #mythbuntu or #ubuntu-mythtv (same channel/redirect) |
| [20:03:12] | BlueCamel: | cool. thanks |
| [20:03:41] | sphery: | uhsf: it outputs audio only. you then route that audio to something else for capture |
| [20:04:24] | sphery: | uhsf: that something else would be myth--so specify the right /dev/dsp1 (or whatever) for the audio input device in your recording profile and it should capture it |
| [20:07:44] | wagnerrp: | i really wish they would rework xbox games when they ported them to the PC |
| [20:07:53] | wagnerrp: | if nothing else, to crank up the memory allowance |
| [20:08:13] | wagnerrp: | theres no reason reloading a save from 10 seconds ago should take any time at all |
| [20:08:29] | uhsf: | sphery: the tv tuner card outputs audio through pci to sound card, so i set up mythtv to /dev/dsp1 but i get no sound |
| [20:08:34] | wagnerrp: | theres no reason not to preload vast tracks of the level, rather than pausing to load if you run too fast |
| [20:08:45] | sphery: | wagnerrp: what? just because you spent 10x as much money on your hardware, you think you should be able to take advantage of it? |
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| [20:09:38] | sphery: | uhsf: I don't know any details of how to set up any framegrabbers... IMHO, they're garbage and shouldn't be used. |
| [20:09:44] | sphery: | too late, again |
| [20:10:12] | Josh__: | FRICK |
| [20:10:24] | Josh__: | This isnt making any sense at all |
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| [20:10:50] | BlueCamel: | general myth FE only question, when browsing on 0.22 without storage groups, I need to mount /var/lib/mythtv/{videos|posters|fanart} on the front end? |
| [20:10:55] | wagnerrp: | 10x? nah... im using maybe $500 of hardware, at the price i bought it at |
| [20:10:57] | BlueCamel: | from the backend that is |
| [20:11:00] | wagnerrp: | now... probably closer to $350 |
| [20:11:25] | Josh__: | BlueCamel, remote mounting a folder from the backend isnt necessary. A local folder has to exist on the FE |
| [20:11:49] | BlueCamel: | Hmm. |
| [20:11:50] | Josh__: | Easiest across-the-board solution would be to remote mount a folder on the server, but again, it's not required. |
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| [20:13:01] | BlueCamel: | the video_ts stuff won't play on the FE becuase the path /var/lib/mythtv/videos doesn't exist. That is the correct path on the backend though. Becuase I'm using video_ts, I don't think I can use storage groups according to the mythvideo transition guide |
| [20:13:36] | Josh__: | BlueCamel, if youre not using SGs, it doesnt matter where they are located on the backend. The /frontend/ is looking for those files. |
| [20:13:47] | BlueCamel: | so I'm not sure how the myth backend woudl provide posters, fanart, and videos to the front end without an export |
| [20:14:24] | BlueCamel: | okay, I think we're on the same page. the backend must serve them via smb/nfs/something to the front end which has them at the same path |
| [20:14:43] | Josh__: | BlueCamel, correct, *if* you're not using storage groups. |
| [20:14:58] | BlueCamel: | I am not using storage groups due to having everything stored as video_ts |
| [20:15:05] | Josh__: | but you don't *have* to use a remote mount, you can just copy all the files over to somewhere on each frontend. |
| [20:15:15] | sphery: | and, yes, you can't use storage groups with ISOs or VIDEO_TS dirs |
| [20:15:29] | BlueCamel: | setting up autofs/nfs exports is trivial enough :) |
| [20:15:55] | Josh__: | this PVR150 is kicking my ass. |
| [20:16:02] | BlueCamel: | my only other question is if it's sane to export the entire /var/lib/mythtv/* folder structure over NFS to the FE or if I should only export select folders |
| [20:16:25] | BlueCamel: | I'm not sure if the FE will do any writing into /var/lib/mythtv/* that would confuse the BE |
| [20:16:30] | Josh__: | BlueCamel, I say go ahead and export them to /var/lib/mythtv/ on the FE's |
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| [20:18:10] | sphery: | if you get worse performance during playback, change the setting to always stream from the backend to true/enabled |
| [20:18:17] | sphery: | (worse after NFS mounts) |
| [20:18:55] | Josh__: | grr, myth doesnt want to play my PVR150 |
| [20:19:04] | Josh__: | and the fricking devices swapped again |
| [20:19:08] | sphery: | what symptoms? |
| [20:19:28] | sphery: | just can't record from it? |
| [20:19:30] | Josh__: | sphery, enter livetv, playback starts (on the HDhomerun) |
| [20:19:48] | Josh__: | sphery, switch tuners to the PVR150, black screen, no OSD, no video |
| [20:19:54] | Josh__: | mythfrontend stops responding |
| [20:20:34] | sphery: | will start on your lowest-cardinputid local card or, if you enable Avoid conflicts between LiveTV and recordings, on your highest-cardinputid (even non-local) |
| [20:20:46] | Josh__: | I know. |
| [20:20:47] | sphery: | ah, so it's the no video part... |
| [20:20:52] | sphery: | that's a harder one |
| [20:21:02] | sphery: | haven't heard of any issues with that, so I can't help |
| [20:21:10] | Josh__: | It happens on all my frontends, so it's a backend problem. |
| [20:21:21] | Josh__: | Thing is, video plays fine using mplayer |
| [20:21:33] | Josh__: | I've deleted the card from mythtv-setup and reinstalled |
| [20:21:47] | sphery: | permissions?/ownership? |
| [20:22:00] | sphery: | other than that, I couldn't guess what might be the problem |
| [20:22:08] | sphery: | anyway, good luck with it |
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| [20:23:52] | Josh__: | sphery, thanks though. |
| [20:24:00] | Josh__: | Can anyone make any sense of this backend log? http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1662459 |
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| [20:28:49] | mattsshack: | Can anyone help me with Firewire channel changing on Fedora and a sa3250HD? I have the script compiled but the channel is not changing :( |
| [20:30:09] | mattsshack: | Please :D |
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| [20:34:02] | RDV_Linux: | mattsshack: Have you carefully followed these instructions? http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web& . . . PBLDBGSwdbZA |
| [20:34:23] | RDV_Linux: | mattsshack: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FireWire |
| [20:34:30] | seanius: | am i missing something or do i have to manually enter channel numbers for every channel after my first install? |
| [20:34:32] | mattsshack: | I think so yes |
| [20:34:43] | jya: | anykey_: ping ! |
| [20:34:56] | RDV_Linux: | mattsshack: That is what worked for me |
| [20:35:19] | mattsshack: | the only thing i see is "raw1394 25120 2" and mine is 0 |
| [20:36:22] | xaxes: | hey.. got crashed table in mythdb.. tried to run optimize_mythdb.pl .. but it cant find Mythtv.pm .. how to fix this? |
| [20:37:10] | mattsshack: | RDV_Linux: you running fedora ? Did you have to add to modprobe.conf ? |
| [20:37:10] | xaxes: | the file is located in /usr/share/perl5/site_perl/5.10.0/MythTV.pm and in 5.10.0/IO/Socket/INET/MythTV.pm |
| [20:38:02] | RDV_Linux: | mattsshack: No I an running Ubuntu 9.10 and just followed the wiki instructions |
| [20:38:10] | mattsshack: | ok thx |
| [20:38:17] | RDV_Linux: | np |
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| [20:41:19] | xaxes: | got it.. thx and bye ;) |
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| [20:42:42] | mattsshack: | brb |
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| [20:42:50] | BlueCamel: | jya: your nvidia 1.90 driver and vdpau stuff isn't compatable with the mythtbuntu repos, right? |
| [20:43:13] | jya: | not exactly ... |
| [20:43:41] | jya: | if you install the libvdpau0 package ; then the mythbuntu packages will install and run fine |
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| [20:44:46] | jya: | installing the packages on my repo ; with the ubuntu's nvidia driver will create issue. so you must first uninstall the nvidia drivers that comes with ubuntu ; before you can attempt to use my packages |
| [20:44:47] | Josh__: | recording from that tuner works... |
| [20:45:04] | BlueCamel: | Hmm... trying to get to the nvidia 1.90 with vdpau support while keeping all the nice wrappers and config setup that mythbuntu does. |
| [20:45:06] | seanius: | okay, for n in `seq 1 999`; do echo; echo; echo $n; echo; echo; echo; done | mythfilldatabase --manual --max-days 1 |
| [20:46:04] | BlueCamel: | so... 1) remove nvidia drivers 2) add jya repo to mythbuntu 3) install nvidia drivers |
| [20:46:05] | jya: | BlueCamel: if all you want to do is use the nvidia drivers; then install the nvidia drivers and the libvdpau0 package |
| [20:46:19] | jya: | and libvdpau0 |
| [20:46:41] | jya: | then remove jya repo ; otherwise your whole mythtv will be upgraded |
| [20:47:21] | BlueCamel: | alright, I'll give it a shot. |
| [20:47:28] | BlueCamel: | worst case, fresh install :) |
| [20:47:44] | jya: | uninstalling the nvidia drivers from ubuntu, is a must |
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| [20:48:01] | jya: | othwerwise you get an error about libvdpau being already presents in another package |
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| [20:48:18] | BlueCamel: | dpkg -l | grep nvidia |
| [20:48:25] | BlueCamel: | then uninstall what's listed. ... got it |
| [20:48:38] | jya: | nvidia shouldn't show libvdpau |
| [20:48:53] | jya: | there are 2 kinds of libvdpau |
| [20:49:09] | anykey_: | jya: png |
| [20:49:11] | jya: | the free wrappers (found in libvdpau0 package) and the vdpau drivers |
| [20:49:45] | anykey_: | jya: what's on? |
| [20:49:57] | jya: | the vdpau drivers are in nvidia-185-libvdpau |
| [20:50:23] | jya: | anykey_: hi there.. puzzled with the compilation error you had ... Janne made a change to globalsettings.cpp |
| [20:50:34] | anykey_: | ah. nice, thank you |
| [20:50:36] | jya: | which IMHO, can't fix your issue ... |
| [20:50:48] | jya: | so I reverted that one.. |
| [20:51:17] | jya: | can you check that the issue isn't related to your install looking for headers somewhere else |
| [20:51:37] | BlueCamel: | alright. nvidia-185-libvdpau removed |
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| [20:52:02] | jya: | than in the default folder ... like having 0.21 myth headers installed in /usr/include etc.. |
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| [20:53:42] | anykey_: | jya: I don't think so, no 0.21 on this system, fresh svn export for each compile attempt |
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| [20:54:24] | jya: | can you post a gcc -E of that videoprofile.cpp somewhere ? |
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| [20:54:56] | mattsshack: | I got it to work :) I was missing the kernel module |
| [20:54:58] | mattsshack: | doh |
| [20:55:19] | mattsshack: | No I need to find the setting where I can change the recording dir |
| [20:57:52] | anykey_: | jya: https://www.thinktux.net/~christian/gcc-e.txt |
| [20:59:59] | uhsf: | for audio output device i have choice between ALSA:default, ALSA:spdif, ALSA:surround51, ALSA:analog, ALSA:digital, ALSA:mixed-analog, ALSA:mixed-digital, ALSA:hdmi, ALSA:plughw:0,3, /dev/dsp, /dev/dsp1, /dev/adsp, NULL. which one should i choose? |
| [21:00:10] | Malard: | hi, i am trying to compile the trunk version of mythtv on ubuntu and its throwing a message saying ERROR! You must have the Lame MP3 encoding library installed to compile MythTV. |
| [21:00:13] | uhsf: | for passthrough output device i have choice between: Default, ALSA:iec958:{ AES0 0x02 }, ALSA:hdmi, ALSA:plughw:0,3. which one should i choose? |
| [21:00:19] | uhsf: | for upmix i have choice between: Passive, Active simple or Active linear. which should i choose? |
| [21:00:24] | Malard: | i've tried sudo apt-get install lame but that doesnt seem to be enough |
| [21:00:34] | seanius: | Malard: libmp3lame-dev maybe? |
| [21:00:36] | jya: | uhsf: ever heard of RTFM ? |
| [21:01:26] | Malard: | seanius ty, next package it wants is ERROR: libXxf86vm not found |
| [21:01:33] | Malard: | do you know what that is in? |
| [21:01:47] | jya: | Malard: sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv |
| [21:02:13] | Malard: | ah that helps :) |
| [21:02:45] | ** seanius compiling 0.22 on squeeze atm ** | |
| [21:02:47] | laga: | i think we had about the same discussion yesterday ;) |
| [21:03:02] | Malard: | yes, i went to bed and you asked why |
| [21:03:12] | Malard: | the reason is i want to do some mythweb dev work :) |
| [21:03:54] | qwertydamus: | malard:http://sourceforge.net/projects/lame/files/lame/ download source , make and install it |
| [21:04:18] | jya: | anykey_: what's the full error ? so if you do svn co on 22759 it compiles, but 22760 it doesn't ... |
| [21:04:33] | Malard: | qwertydamus thanks, the package was enough to get me past and the build-dep is enough for the rest :) |
| [21:04:34] | jya: | i just don't believe it :) |
| [21:04:58] | seanius: | out of curiosity how long does a compile take on a respectably juiced system? |
| [21:05:09] | anykey_: | jya: I'll post the complete log |
| [21:05:36] | anykey_: | jya: https://www.thinktux.net/~christian/build.log |
| [21:05:44] | qwertydamus: | seanius: takes me 2–3 minute (core i7) |
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| [21:07:26] | seanius: | okay so then i guess i'm not too far away then |
| [21:07:32] | jya: | i see a problem in the code; I just fail to understand why it would fail on your machine but not mine |
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| [21:08:14] | jya: | hummmm.... |
| [21:08:30] | jya: | what kind of patches are you installing on top of the source code ? |
| [21:08:59] | Shred00: | i'm getting "DB charset pre-conversion test failed! Your database seems to be partially corrupted." on an attempted upgrade. i've seen http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Fixing_Corrupt_Database_Encoding, but i wonder if there is any easier way to proceed considering i still have a copy of mythconver prior to the attempted-upgrade. |
| [21:09:09] | anykey_: | jya: nothing special, i'll cat them together, give me a sec |
| [21:09:14] | jya: | anykey_: did you install the h264skiploop patch by any chance ? |
| [21:09:19] | anykey_: | jya: yes |
| [21:09:24] | jya: | because what I see in your source code |
| [21:09:50] | jya: | is typically a field added by the old h264 skip stuff |
| [21:10:03] | jya: | you need to update that patch |
| [21:10:07] | anykey_: | ok |
| [21:10:11] | Shred00: | also, when i did the "status" test described on that page i got: |
| [21:10:11] | Shred00: | Client characterset: latin1 |
| [21:10:11] | Shred00: | Server characterset: latin1 |
| [21:10:11] | Shred00: | so i don't seem to have a mix of utf8 and latin1 |
| [21:10:13] | anykey_: | sorry about the noise then |
| [21:10:47] | jya: | for each CreateProfile in CreateVDPAUProfiles ; add between ""vdpau", 1," and "vdpau" |
| [21:10:50] | jya: | a true, |
| [21:11:01] | qwertydamus: | hi I cannot figure out what library I am missing :: http://www.fpaste.org/6LA2/ |
| [21:11:09] | qwertydamus: | error is on "make install" |
| [21:12:43] | ** jya stab anykey_ for making him thinks he broke mythtv ** | |
| [21:14:15] | BlueCamel: | so, when I removed the nvidia-1.85 from mythtbuntu I chose to do so through the restricted drivers manager by disabling/deactiviating the nvidia propritary stuff |
| [21:14:33] | BlueCamel: | that action apparently silently removed mythtv-frontend from the mythtbuntu ppa as well |
| [21:14:39] | BlueCamel: | as there was a dependancy it seems |
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| [21:14:46] | BlueCamel: | eh. whatever |
| [21:15:26] | BlueCamel: | after I installed nvidia-1.90 + libvdpau0 from jya I left the repo in place and installed mythtv-frontend from jya as well |
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| [21:16:12] | jya: | BlueCamel: you can't remove drivers 185 if using the ubuntu mythtv packages |
| [21:16:20] | jya: | they have a static dependency on them |
| [21:16:28] | BlueCamel: | :) I noticed |
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| [21:16:49] | jya: | anykey_: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1662524 will fix your compilation |
| [21:16:50] | BlueCamel: | I even recall reading such on your site somewhere |
| [21:17:02] | anykey_: | jya: figured that, thank you |
| [21:17:07] | BlueCamel: | would have been useful for me to remember that 50 lines back ;) |
| [21:17:09] | jya: | anykey_ : add this on top of the h264 patch |
| [21:17:39] | jya: | actually, wouldn't mind have that patch of yours ... I didn't bother updating that one since 0.21.. but wouldn't mind using it |
| [21:17:46] | jya: | i know it's useful for some people |
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| [21:20:50] | jya: | BlueCamel: have the hard dependency on 185.xx is a pain anyway |
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| [21:21:20] | jya: | good riddance :) (that dependency will be gone soon in the mythbuntu weekly build) |
| [21:21:43] | BlueCamel: | jya: agreed. |
| [21:22:05] | BlueCamel: | I'm really appreciative of the jya repo |
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| [21:22:22] | BlueCamel: | but I'm also appreciative of the install and play usablity that mythtbuntu provides |
| [21:22:34] | anykey_: | jya: https://www.thinktux.net/~christian/01-loopfilter.patch |
| [21:23:02] | BlueCamel: | for now, I'll leave the mythtbuntu ppa in place and the jya repo enabled |
| [21:23:04] | BlueCamel: | see how it plays out |
| [21:25:46] | jya: | BlueCamel: my repo and mythbuntu install , config wizard etc.. are all compatible... just that the libvdpau is packaged separately... so you can switch between nvidia drivers at will |
| [21:28:05] | seanius: | where does mythtv put its init script after make install? |
| [21:28:20] | wagnerrp: | it doesnt |
| [21:28:25] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has no init script |
| [21:28:41] | seanius: | interesting |
| [21:28:47] | wagnerrp: | there are a couple distro-specific ones packaged in the contrib folder |
| [21:29:29] | jya: | anykey_: I think the h264 would have more chance being applied to trunk, if it didn't modify the default profile ... it's not required either (until you go and edit them) |
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| [21:31:30] | dan4dm: | i recorded some live tv last night, saw it there in my recordings. now it's gone (yet my hd is a looong way from full, it's at 17%). any tips for how to diagnose? (0.21) |
| [21:31:51] | anykey_: | jya: I thought the rejection of this patch was because it's more a hack than a solution (solution would be frame based threading) |
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| [21:34:50] | BlueCamel: | the horz scroll themes (eg graphite) are intertesting but I think the usablity factor is low from a human interface design point of view |
| [21:35:29] | wagnerrp: | hahaha... .theres an iphone virus |
| [21:36:22] | BlueCamel: | the old sms hack? |
| [21:36:43] | wagnerrp: | no, jailbroken phones of people who havent bothered to change the default ssh password |
| [21:36:54] | BlueCamel: | ah |
| [21:37:23] | wagnerrp: | they get a background of Rick Astley, and a worm that further spreads itself to more iphones |
| [21:37:25] | laga: | LOL |
| [21:39:40] | kusznir: | Hi all: does the current release include vdpau support? |
| [21:39:45] | wagnerrp: | yes |
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| [21:39:55] | kusznir: | cool! thanks! |
| [21:40:44] | jya: | anykey_: ffmpeg adds supports ; it's just passing an extra argument to the decoder |
| [21:40:59] | kusznir: | Oh, kinda off topic, but does anyone know of any way to get hulu content vdpau accelerated? (linhes has some basic hulu-myth integration) |
| [21:41:01] | jya: | so i personally can't see anything wrong with it ... |
| [21:44:11] | jya: | anykey_: you can remove that patch ... it does absolutely nothing other than adding the entry to the profiles |
| [21:44:24] | jya: | it certainly doesn't actually do anything |
| [21:45:06] | jya: | it's just playing up with adding a field to the profile; but the most important part in avformatdecoder.cpp is missing |
| [21:45:26] | dan4dm: | is there a logfile where myth lists what it has intentionally deleted? (or would i need to push the log level up from mythbuntu default?) |
| [21:45:32] | anykey_: | jya: err, sorry, that's the wrong patch ;) |
| [21:45:50] | jya: | yeah, had to be :) |
| [21:48:21] | anykey_: | jya: refetch the patch, should be complete now |
| [21:49:14] | jya: | the formatting in avformatdecoder.cpp is no good |
| [21:49:20] | jya: | tab vs spaces |
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| [21:59:28] | dustybin: | my god |
| [21:59:39] | dustybin: | a scroll of text just shot up my screen |
| [21:59:43] | dustybin: | is was smooth as silk |
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| [21:59:59] | dustybin: | .22 video is a LOT SMOOTHER!!!!!!!!! |
| [22:00:29] | dustybin: | in .21, fast moving text would shake on my crt |
| [22:00:31] | dustybin: | quite a bit |
| [22:00:34] | whyvas: | my scan for channels button is greyed out, ivtv driver seems to be detecting my hauppauge 250 card, any ideas? |
| [22:02:21] | wagnerrp: | you are trying to scan on an ivtv card |
| [22:03:14] | whyvas: | that doesn't work? |
| [22:03:21] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [22:03:26] | whyvas: | I see... |
| [22:03:35] | dustybin: | is there a way to split the resolution of video and the OSD ? |
| [22:03:39] | whyvas: | What driver do I need for a hauppauge 250? |
| [22:03:45] | wagnerrp: | ivtv |
| [22:04:01] | wagnerrp: | there is no analog scanning in mythtv |
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| [22:04:14] | wagnerrp: | there is no need or ability to do analog scanning in mythtv |
| [22:04:39] | whyvas: | ? |
| [22:04:45] | laga: | a) there is a need for that b) there is analog scanning |
| [22:04:47] | whyvas: | did they remove this feature? |
| [22:05:00] | laga: | at least there was in 0.21 |
| [22:05:00] | whyvas: | I had it working before |
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| [22:05:10] | whyvas: | a few years back |
| [22:05:16] | wagnerrp: | well then why is it greyed out? |
| [22:05:30] | wagnerrp: | regardless, you are canadian, meaning you have schedulesdirect as your listings provider |
| [22:05:36] | whyvas: | I figured a problem with the driver or some other mysterious setting |
| [22:05:50] | wagnerrp: | and it is simple to just pull a channel lineup from them, no need to scan |
| [22:06:12] | whyvas: | my card isn't working at all though |
| [22:06:13] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression analog tuners did not report signal strength |
| [22:06:17] | whyvas: | I can't see any channels |
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| [22:08:21] | whyvas: | shouldn't I be able to just go to channel 2 and check to make sure it works? |
| [22:08:37] | wagnerrp: | if you added a channel 2 |
| [22:09:00] | wagnerrp: | if you just want to check to see if the card works, run 'ivtv-tune -c2; cat /dev/video0 > tmp.mpg' |
| [22:09:01] | BlueCamel: | myth FE only boxes should not have mythfilldatabase run, correct? |
| [22:09:11] | wagnerrp: | BlueCamel: correct |
| [22:09:15] | whyvas: | yeah, last time I set this up, the tuner went and scanned all of the channels much like a tv does |
| [22:09:52] | wagnerrp: | anyway, you shouldnt be scanning analog, you should be pulling it from schedulesdirect |
| [22:09:59] | whyvas: | why? |
| [22:10:37] | wagnerrp: | because mythfilldatabase is going to fill out your channel lineup with your SD lineup anyway |
| [22:11:10] | whyvas: | ok, but scanning analog is possible? |
| [22:11:22] | wagnerrp: | apparently it is, ive never done so in mythtv |
| [22:11:27] | wagnerrp: | or in linux in general |
| [22:11:43] | whyvas: | does anyone know how to do this? |
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| [22:15:26] | ExElNeT: | heya. i have a big problem with mythtvs audio output. i cant get ac3 to work as it should. if i enable it i get nothing but horrible noise. mplayer works fine. info is here: http://pastebin.com/m796e5fbb |
| [22:16:11] | uhsf: | omfg i just solved my tv tuner card sound problems it took me almost 24hours and i was about to give up i tried one last thing and that solved it. simpsons episode tonight will be so good. |
| [22:16:20] | uhsf: | ty ppl who tried to help |
| [22:21:33] | whyvas: | simpsons are horrible nowadays... |
| [22:21:58] | BlueCamel: | ExElNeT: which release of mythtv? |
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| [22:22:58] | ExElNeT: | BlueCamel: mythfrontend version: branches/release-0-22-fixes [22594] www.mythtv.org |
| [22:23:42] | BlueCamel: | and you're connecting the an optical digital out cable from the mythbox to your receiver? |
| [22:24:23] | dan4dm: | uhsf: what was the one last thing? |
| [22:24:31] | BlueCamel: | suggest ALSA:iec958 for the Device and SPDIF: Default |
| [22:24:39] | BlueCamel: | swhich Max Audio Channels to 5.1 |
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| [22:29:38] | ExElNeT: | BlueCamel: yeah optical... lemme check... i ll try it |
| [22:33:18] | ExElNeT: | BlueCamel: http://pastebin.com/m10661deb no sound at all. ;/ |
| [22:34:12] | jya: | BlueCamel: with 0.22, for passthru to work, maxaudiochannel must be set to stereo |
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| [22:38:01] | BlueCamel: | ExElNeT: sounds like setting it to Stereo is what is needed then |
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| [22:38:20] | jya: | if set to 5.1, you'll get no sound at all as the interface reports not supporting more than stereo |
| [22:38:24] | BlueCamel: | if you have a /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc that could be messing things up |
| [22:38:47] | jya: | if you use 0.22 on my repo, then yes you set it to 5.1 because it has the new audio code |
| [22:38:48] | duke_: | sphery: how can i specify to configure script, where is located my X11 libraries? |
| [22:39:20] | jya: | add an LDFLAGS to it |
| [22:39:34] | duke_: | didnt help |
| [22:39:52] | whyvas: | ok SD all setup, ran mythfilldatabase, when I go to watch TV it says "Please W...." |
| [22:40:12] | jya: | ExEINet: what did you connect your digital cable to? |
| [22:40:21] | BlueCamel: | jya: has the new audio patch been merged into 0.22-fixes? |
| [22:40:32] | jya: | duke_: it will help, as long as you enter the right path |
| [22:40:43] | jya: | BlueCamel: no it hasn't |
| [22:41:01] | jya: | will be in 0.23, it's already in trunk |
| [22:41:12] | whyvas: | wagnerrp, any ideas? |
| [22:41:28] | duke_: | jya: you're right :) thank you |
| [22:41:58] | jya: | -Lblah |
| [22:42:12] | ExElNeT: | jya: creative inspire gd580 |
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| [22:42:48] | wagnerrp: | whyvas: what i said way way back there, cat /dev/video0 to some file |
| [22:42:54] | wagnerrp: | see if you get a valid mpeg2 |
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| [22:43:02] | wagnerrp: | if you do, the tuner is working |
| [22:43:12] | jya: | are you sure those speakers supports AC3 and DTS? |
| [22:43:20] | wagnerrp: | from that point, either you set up mythtv incompletely, or you have some file permissions issue |
| [22:43:20] | jya: | looks like they don't |
| [22:43:34] | jya: | uncheck the passthrough flags |
| [22:45:05] | whyvas: | wagnerrp, I did get a valid mpeg |
| [22:45:23] | ExElNeT: | jya: 100% sure. it works fine with mplayer, the system has an led which indicates ac3 or dts activity |
| [22:45:45] | whyvas: | channels show up just fine in mythtv but can't watch |
| [22:45:47] | jya: | what audio output do you use in mplayer? |
| [22:46:00] | jya: | mplayer by default doesn't do passthrough |
| [22:46:15] | BlueCamel: | need mplayer -v output |
| [22:46:30] | BlueCamel: | the output in the pastebin doesn't say |
| [22:46:54] | ExElNeT: | jya: ao=alsa:device=iec958 afm=hwac3 |
| [22:47:02] | ExElNeT: | im using this for years... |
| [22:47:48] | jya: | the only reason you would hear noise is if it doesn't decode the AC3 stream, so try unchecking it for the time being |
| [22:48:29] | ExElNeT: | jya: yeah now i removed the asoundrc... which resulted in silence. mplayer still works |
| [22:48:59] | jya: | if you've set ALSA:iec958 in myth, asoundrc isn't going to make a difference |
| [22:49:13] | wagnerrp: | whyvas: check your backend logs for an error |
| [22:49:23] | whyvas: | I think I figured it out |
| [22:49:33] | whyvas: | had v4l analog card selected |
| [22:49:41] | whyvas: | went to ivtv and now I can scan... |
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| [22:54:01] | ExElNeT: | jya: BlueCamel with ALSA:iec958:{ AES0 0x02 } as spdif device it seems to work for now... ALSA:iec958 wont work, default wont.... so for now it works. (without 5.1) |
| [22:54:46] | jya: | if you have set to stereo, define a passthrough device and check AC3 and DTS ; you'll get 5.1 |
| [22:55:19] | jya: | that it is set to stereo is a bit confusing ... |
| [22:55:29] | ExElNeT: | ah ok, if thats the case im fine... :=) yes it is confusing |
| [22:55:48] | jya: | this is related to how it works internally. a 5.1 AC3 stream is sent as a stereo PCM stream to the receiver |
| [22:56:28] | jya: | trunk/0.23 removes this confusion; to get 5.1 you set the audio as 5.1 and myth does the job internally |
| [22:56:53] | ExElNeT: | ok cool. this will help. |
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| [22:57:30] | sadaiyappan: | Hi |
| [22:57:41] | sadaiyappan: | Which HDTV USB sticks are supported? |
| [23:00:26] | uhsf: | whyvas: i know, i watch simpsons about once or twice /season nowadays i'm just happy to get my tv tuner card working and there's nothing else on tv tonight |
| [23:00:37] | ExElNeT: | sadaiyappan: http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page |
| [23:03:04] | sadaiyappan: | where does it show the sticks that are supported on that page? |
| [23:05:51] | sadaiyappan: | okay i found it |
| [23:05:55] | sadaiyappan: | http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-WinTV-HVR-950 . . . 6&sr=1-1 |
| [23:05:59] | sadaiyappan: | this one okay? |
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| [23:10:46] | whyvas: | now I can get channels from 2 – 13.... |
| [23:11:11] | whyvas: | when I do a channel scan it says NO LOCK when it's on channel 14 |
| [23:11:20] | whyvas: | seems to vary on what channel it freezes on |
| [23:11:31] | whyvas: | some other folks mentionned this online as well |
| [23:11:34] | whyvas: | ideas? |
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| [23:13:15] | whyvas: | so wagnerrp, according to you I shouldn't have to do a channel scan if I am signed up with SD? |
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| [23:32:05] | duke_: | libmythtv-0.22.so: undefined reference to `MythXDisplay::Sync(bool) why it so? |
| [23:32:12] | whyvas: | DTVParamHelper::toString() index out of bounds |
| [23:32:23] | whyvas: | clean database issue? |
| [23:32:38] | laga: | duke_: make distclean? |
| [23:33:07] | duke_: | laga: let me try this... |
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| [23:35:59] | wagnerrp: | whyvas: i have never run an analog scan with mythtv |
| [23:36:09] | wagnerrp: | not with the old zap2it, not with the current schedulesdirect |
| [23:36:33] | wagnerrp: | you just use the other button, right next to 'scan for channels' |
| [23:36:42] | whyvas: | do you need to even run the scan or should SD take care of everything? |
| [23:37:01] | wagnerrp: | no scan |
| [23:37:09] | wagnerrp: | SD just gives you a list of channels |
| [23:37:16] | whyvas: | why does it only go from 2–13? |
| [23:37:19] | wagnerrp: | all it takes is a single number to tune an analog channel |
| [23:37:30] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has built in frequency tables |
| [23:37:37] | whyvas: | hmmmm |
| [23:37:39] | whyvas: | wtf |
| [23:37:47] | wagnerrp: | your SD lineup only goes from 2–13? |
| [23:37:54] | whyvas: | no it goes to 65 |
| [23:38:12] | whyvas: | but when trying to change to a channel higher than 13 all I get is static |
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| [23:38:48] | wagnerrp: | then you have mythtv set up to use a broadcast frequency table |
| [23:38:51] | wagnerrp: | rather than a cable one |
| [23:39:10] | whyvas: | ahhh |
| [23:39:11] | whyvas: | brb |
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| [23:41:41] | whyvas: | wagnerrp, correct! |
| [23:41:45] | whyvas: | Thanks |
| [23:41:51] | whyvas: | now audio is gone however... |
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| [23:44:12] | whyvas: | i'll try a reboot |
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| [23:45:21] | hipitihop: | any aus users here ? anyone using Sheperd EPG ? |
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| [23:47:13] | kizi: | hey ppl... |
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| [23:51:52] | Dibblah: | Hmmm. Looks like the "Proposed settings rework" thread has finally sputtered out. |
| [23:53:04] | kizi: | hey i have a naugty litte error that for the life of me i cant find the solution to.... |
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| [23:53:44] | kizi: | tried googleing it and check the mailing list and everything and nothing that works for me... |
| [23:53:54] | kizi: | TV Error: Failed to get recording show list | |
| [23:54:56] | williammanda: | I have a problem...not all videos play (iso or vob) in mythvideo. |
| [23:56:01] | williammanda: | I'm using .22 ver and I don't have a video storage group. I export the videos using nfs to the slave backend. |
| [23:56:36] | williammanda: | The problem is on both the master & slave BE/FE |
| [23:56:54] | williammanda: | Of the videos that play in mythtv, they have no metadata. The ones that don't play, have metadata. This goes for iso or vob videos. |
| [23:57:13] | williammanda: | All vob videos play using several media players: xine, mplayer, gnome mplayer and movie player. I can't find a media player that will play iso, so I can't test that yet. |
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