| Wednesday, November 4th, 2009, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:10] | unimaginative: | jherm, ls -alh /mnt/users/jherm/.mythtv/recordings/1002_20091103152028.mpg |
| [00:00:43] | unimaginative: | jherm, what user is mythbackend running on? |
| [00:00:59] | jherm: | It's gone but give me a second. I ran file on it and it just said 'data' which means its nonsense or a raw stream, I guess? |
| [00:01:52] | wagnerrp: | sphery: im really just guessing at that, but the fact that you have to spoof your browser UA just to download them is a big 'not welcome' to me |
| [00:01:54] | jherm: | I did read on the darned wiki that there was no analog support, I guess I just blocked it out because I wished it wasn't true. This means I have to use Windows to record shows, and that really sucks. |
| [00:02:10] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah... still was a lot more info than I had |
| [00:02:20] | unimaginative: | jherm, HVR-1600 if you need atsc digital and NTSC analog. |
| [00:02:32] | unimaginative: | jherm, the new ivtv drivers support both sides of the card. |
| [00:02:33] | wagnerrp: | no it wasnt, i just said there was no linux version of quicktime |
| [00:02:35] | sphery: | jherm: it will eventually work--of course by then you may be using digital instead of analog :) |
| [00:02:51] | wagnerrp: | or apple anything on linux for that matter |
| [00:03:09] | sphery: | well, it spurred Nick to look at the update and see the UA change. |
| [00:03:19] | unimaginative: | Jester86, Personally, I run all my web stuff on port 80, and just run security through various methods when the need requires. |
| [00:03:38] | sphery: | and--if nothing else--it was someone besides just me saying it seems to be a no-no |
| [00:03:42] | unimaginative: | Jester86, http://coldfire.myftp.org/mythweb/ |
| [00:03:49] | wagnerrp: | fair enough |
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| [00:05:03] | jherm: | sphery: Does that mean I can watch the channels I get in HD? With the analog scan, there were some channels at the end (T#) and I've seen duplicate channels (one low quality, one high) when tuning from my LCD. |
| [00:05:19] | jherm: | unimaginative: This is a different file but it was the same end result anyway... |
| [00:05:31] | jherm: | -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1019M 2009-11–03 18:13 /mnt/users/jherm/.mythtv/recordings/1002_20091103181018.mpg |
| [00:05:42] | jherm: | Not a perm issue from what I could tell... |
| [00:05:57] | unimaginative: | jherm, my first guess is always permissions, weird that the frontend couldnt read the file. |
| [00:06:13] | sphery: | jherm: the digital capture should be fine--so anything using ATSC or QAM |
| [00:06:34] | sphery: | but if it's digital channels output by a set-top-box to analog, then it wouldn't work |
| [00:07:26] | dec_ is now known as dec | |
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| [00:08:06] | jherm: | Hmm... |
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| [00:08:56] | jherm: | Well from the bands I've tried to scan when using the card as a DVB receiver, I didn't get anything yet. I tried cable, cable high, cable hrc, and others. |
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| [00:10:46] | sphery: | jherm: yeah, it's quite likely they're encrypting most everything |
| [00:11:00] | sphery: | you should be able to find local "must carry" channels on there |
| [00:11:12] | sphery: | but probably not much of anything else |
| [00:11:24] | sphery: | on the bright side, the PVR-150 is dirt cheap on ebay |
| [00:11:26] | jherm: | I found a channels.conf from someone in my state so I might try that |
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| [00:11:33] | sphery: | $20-$30 including shipping |
| [00:11:56] | sphery: | and gives you great quality analog capture (well, as great as the quality of analog could be) |
| [00:11:58] | jherm: | Thanks so much. I wish I had done research on the card + mythtv before I bought it, oh well. |
| [00:12:14] | jherm: | I gotta run, thanks again for all the help. |
| [00:12:29] | sphery: | good luck |
| [00:12:44] | sphery: | keep an eye on the Myth wiki for more on analog on HVR-1800 |
| [00:12:49] | sphery: | (and/or lists) |
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| [00:18:45] | wagnerrp: | i need to start shuffling stuff over to mythvideo, running low on room |
| [00:22:08] | Dibblah: | Storage groups... |
| [00:22:10] | Dibblah: | :) |
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| [00:22:22] | wagnerrp: | eh? |
| [00:26:36] | justinh: | ruh roh. comes to something when I feel compelled to email the list |
| [00:27:11] | sphery: | justinh: I loved the end of that message |
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| [00:27:51] | KennyJ: | yeah I got a good deal too, plextor convertx for 50 bucks, usually costs around 150 |
| [00:27:56] | KennyJ: | btw |
| [00:28:02] | KennyJ: | recording works now |
| [00:28:03] | MTughan: | Is there a way to import a video into the MythTV database as if it was recorded, and if so, what format should it be in? |
| [00:28:10] | KennyJ: | but live tv doesn't |
| [00:28:34] | justinh: | sphery: hope my smoke alarm works ;-) |
| [00:28:48] | unimaginative: | MTughan, the only tools I'm aware of to import a recording were designed a long time ago, and may not work correctly. |
| [00:28:53] | KennyJ: | tells me mythsocket timed out |
| [00:29:40] | MTughan: | unimaginative: Is there a way to just play a video as if you were playing a recording then? I want to see if our system can handle HD video. |
| [00:29:42] | justinh: | managed to make 0.22-fixes backend fall over downloading images to SGs with mythvideo today. I should build everything for debugging from now on |
| [00:30:02] | justinh: | might not have been the SG image malarkey but it was while I was doing it |
| [00:30:15] | Jester86: | unimaginative, sorry what was that link u sent me? |
| [00:30:16] | unimaginative: | MTughan, try mythvideo |
| [00:30:19] | iamlindoro: | justinh, There's an open bug on it-- I keep meaning to ask Captain_Murdoch about it, as I think it's possible to overwhelm RemoteFile::Write |
| [00:30:22] | unimaginative: | Jester86, http://coldfire.myftp.org/mythweb/ |
| [00:30:26] | Jester86: | i was afk |
| [00:30:29] | Jester86: | what is it tho |
| [00:30:29] | MTughan: | unimaginative: Okay, thanks. |
| [00:30:30] | justinh: | iamlindoro: ahh kk :) |
| [00:30:33] | wagnerrp: | MTughan: mirobridge imports recordings, so you might want to see what it does |
| [00:30:34] | Jester86: | is that the link to your myth? |
| [00:30:44] | wagnerrp: | but generally, like unimaginative said, you use MythVideo |
| [00:30:45] | iamlindoro: | justinh, It's triggered from MythVideo, but almost certain the issue is in the RF stuff |
| [00:30:45] | unimaginative: | Jester86, what you can access without a password :) |
| [00:31:12] | justinh: | wouldn't care it's all on the same machine lol |
| [00:31:16] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: ?? |
| [00:31:19] | Jester86: | unimaginative, is it your myth? lol |
| [00:31:42] | wagnerrp: | RDV_Linux: mirobrige imports stuff as recordings, doesnt it? |
| [00:31:43] | unimaginative: | Jester86, haha, yes, of course its mine |
| [00:31:51] | wagnerrp: | nothing to be concerned about, just being informative |
| [00:31:57] | Jester86: | so u want me to log into it? lol |
| [00:31:58] | RDV_Linux: | wagnerrp: Yes |
| [00:32:07] | unimaginative: | Jester86, if you want :) |
| [00:32:28] | wagnerrp: | see MTughan's comment about four minutes ago |
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| [00:33:03] | justinh: | got me a new notebook HDD today, so I could be back on the dev wagon again soonish |
| [00:33:16] | justinh: | rescan day later though. grrr |
| [00:34:03] | Dibblah: | :) |
| [00:34:04] | MTughan: | unimaginative/wagnerrp: Is there a list of formats that MythVideo can play? I don't see one on the MythVideo wiki page. |
| [00:34:24] | wagnerrp: | MTughan: whatever you want |
| [00:34:30] | RDV_Linux: | MTughan: If this is only a test then why not just playback in MythVideo with the Internal player? |
| [00:34:34] | Dibblah: | justinh: You're going to really enjoy the new mailing list post :) |
| [00:34:35] | Jester86: | unimaginative, lol are you keylogging? |
| [00:34:42] | wagnerrp: | the internal player should be able to play anything ffmpeg can decode |
| [00:34:44] | MTughan: | RDV_Linux: Which is what I'll do. |
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| [00:34:52] | MTughan: | wagnerrp: Ah, nice. Works for me. :D |
| [00:35:01] | Jester86: | has anyone used the flash video playback associated w/ mythTV for mythWeb? |
| [00:35:04] | wagnerrp: | anything else, you can pull in an external player |
| [00:35:11] | Dibblah: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 22?page=last |
| [00:35:13] | justinh: | Dibblah: no I'm not, I can smell it |
| [00:36:30] | justinh: | ruh? don't get what I'm supposed to be (un) amused by there |
| [00:36:34] | Jester86: | unimaginative, i'll need to set my router for static ip too correct? |
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| [00:36:52] | Dibblah: | ... The responses are wonderful. |
| [00:36:54] | wagnerrp: | Jester86: are you using your router to hand out a static IP using dhcp? |
| [00:37:17] | Dibblah: | So far, I think probably 50% of the settings have had a "but I use that" cry against them. |
| [00:37:50] | justinh: | bork! Er, I mean fork! |
| [00:38:28] | Jester86: | I have my mythTV set to have a static IP, configured within my PC.. but my router itself assumes a DHCP IP for the router.. if i want to be able to access mythweb from outside my house I'm going to need to set that to static correct? |
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| [00:38:41] | justinh: | well, it's not my call but maybe hiding the esoteric ones away & making them sensible defaults is the way forward |
| [00:38:47] | Dibblah: | Argh. |
| [00:38:51] | Dibblah: | Argh argh. |
| [00:39:03] | Jester86: | the lan ports are given DHCP tho.. i dont think it will be a prob for my mythbox as it assumes its own IP |
| [00:39:03] | justinh: | but it's still not gonna be *less* settings |
| [00:39:29] | justinh: | and we'll find that anybody who doesn't care will be people who don't use the settings up for change |
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| [00:39:31] | Dibblah: | http://pastebin.com/m4efca26d |
| [00:39:38] | Dibblah: | That's my response. |
| [00:40:13] | justinh: | fair nuff |
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| [00:40:52] | Dibblah: | Some of the settings, that obviously doesn't apply to. |
| [00:41:14] | justinh: | a lot of the stuff is really very esoteric effort you won't ever see in anything else |
| [00:41:21] | KennyJ: | Is it possible to set the framerate for a device with MythTV? |
| [00:41:21] | pjcrux: | hello all, had a problem the other day and someone answered it for me (had to reload the machine) but I'm trying to install mythtv on fedora 11 again and can't remember the php package needed |
| [00:41:36] | pjcrux: | I googled it and the package is php posix but can't get it to install |
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| [00:41:59] | justinh: | php-mysql ? |
| [00:42:07] | justinh: | KennyJ: what do you mean? |
| [00:42:21] | Dibblah: | KennyJ: Myth uses X. |
| [00:42:30] | justinh: | KennyJ: we don't have any control over digital tuner recordings framerate, so nothing can be done there |
| [00:42:43] | Dibblah: | So whatever framerate you have X running at will be the output framerate. |
| [00:42:48] | justinh: | and video standards dictate the framerate of analogue recordings.. |
| [00:42:52] | KennyJ: | I mean to record |
| [00:42:56] | justinh: | nope |
| [00:43:03] | KennyJ: | with gorecord I can set my framerate to record |
| [00:43:10] | justinh: | so? |
| [00:43:12] | KennyJ: | hm too bad |
| [00:43:17] | justinh: | gorecord isn't a TV DVR |
| [00:43:20] | Dibblah: | Framerate is dictated by the source material. |
| [00:43:34] | justinh: | who the hell would want recordings at less than the broadcast framerate? |
| [00:43:44] | KennyJ: | well yeah, but mine has an onboard encoder |
| [00:43:46] | justinh: | they're already too low by a factor of 2 as it is :D |
| [00:43:48] | Dibblah: | PAL = 50hz, NTSC=59.997 or whatever. |
| [00:43:50] | pjcrux: | justinh: no that's already installed |
| [00:44:04] | KennyJ: | I just wanted to mess around :P |
| [00:44:12] | Dibblah: | Arf. And that's the field rate, of course. |
| [00:44:16] | justinh: | pjcrux: mythweb's INSTALL doc tells you everything you need |
| [00:44:26] | KennyJ: | I know I can't mess with the signal |
| [00:44:32] | KennyJ: | but the encoder I can change |
| [00:44:41] | justinh: | KennyJ: forget all about making your recordings suck that way :P |
| [00:44:50] | KennyJ: | ehh -.- |
| [00:44:50] | KennyJ: | :D |
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| [00:45:12] | KennyJ: | btw, I seem to be able to record, but my livetv doesn't work |
| [00:45:14] | justinh: | if you want your teevees to look like they were recorded on a Quickcam, use a frickin Quickcam |
| [00:45:22] | KennyJ: | says mythsocket timed out |
| [00:45:24] | justinh: | KennyJ: psst! live tv IS a recording |
| [00:45:36] | KennyJ: | yes I knoww |
| [00:45:43] | iamlindoro: | and if one owrks and not the other, your input connections are broke |
| [00:45:47] | KennyJ: | but when I hit watch tv |
| [00:45:49] | justinh: | KennyJ: look in the backend log |
| [00:45:50] | iamlindoro: | and sphery will be along shortly with a helpful link |
| [00:45:52] | KennyJ: | it doesn't work |
| [00:45:53] | Dibblah: | LiveTV however "special" and go wrong in interesting ways. |
| [00:46:06] | KennyJ: | but when I schedule a record it works >.< |
| [00:46:09] | iamlindoro: | he'll tell you to "do the input connection portion of" the link |
| [00:46:11] | iamlindoro: | wait for it |
| [00:46:11] | justinh: | myers |
| [00:46:14] | iamlindoro: | wait for it |
| [00:46:23] | justinh: | recording profiles can play a part too |
| [00:46:24] | iamlindoro: | waaaaaiiiiit for it |
| [00:46:33] | justinh: | since those can be different for live & recorded TV |
| [00:46:43] | KennyJ: | I did the profiles too >.< |
| [00:46:53] | KennyJ: | and I set the input and video sources |
| [00:46:59] | Dibblah: | "did" as in fiddled with the profiles? |
| [00:47:15] | iamlindoro: | KennyJ, I don't doubt you set them, but they're broken now |
| [00:47:16] | KennyJ: | did as in set the profiles to work with my hardware |
| [00:47:21] | ** iamlindoro kicks sphery ** | |
| [00:47:27] | iamlindoro: | do your job! |
| [00:47:32] | justinh: | lol |
| [00:47:34] | KennyJ: | argh I set the needed resolution |
| [00:47:39] | Dibblah: | It's a go7007, right? |
| [00:47:42] | KennyJ: | yees |
| [00:47:42] | justinh: | that all? |
| [00:47:56] | KennyJ: | yes |
| [00:48:03] | Dibblah: | ... I don't know if that's been tried with trunk. |
| [00:48:07] | KennyJ: | wes sound encoding |
| [00:48:23] | Dibblah: | It's rather old and crusty hardware – No longer actively supported. |
| [00:48:35] | KennyJ: | well works for me :D only not live for some reasin |
| [00:48:39] | KennyJ: | *reason |
| [00:49:03] | KennyJ: | but it works fine, picked it up for 50 bucks and it has hardware mpeg4 rec. |
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| [00:49:15] | justinh: | I'd work for some raisins |
| [00:49:26] | justinh: | I mean I work for peanuts.. |
| [00:49:32] | KennyJ: | :D |
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| [00:49:45] | sphery: | my head hurts... it feels like someone kicked me... strange |
| [00:49:47] | KennyJ: | but can you convert video and encode all at once? |
| [00:50:09] | iamlindoro: | sphery, joke's on you, I didn't kick you there |
| [00:50:14] | iamlindoro: | but your voice seems awfully high |
| [00:50:17] | sphery: | heh |
| [00:50:51] | KennyJ: | what could be the prob? |
| [00:50:58] | sphery: | KennyJ: if LiveTV doesn't work but recordings do and you're using digital capture cards, you probably need to change your Quick Tune settings. |
| [00:51:16] | wagnerrp: | plextor, analog |
| [00:51:18] | sphery: | if you're using analog (were you the DirecTV guy?), it may be something like a broken channel change script? |
| [00:51:26] | KennyJ: | jup dish |
| [00:51:43] | sphery: | i.e. the external channel change script /must/ exit successfully or Myth will exit LiveTV |
| [00:51:54] | sphery: | though I don't know why it would work for recordings but not LiveTV |
| [00:52:05] | KennyJ: | wellll I didn't set a channel change script because my usb lirc tranny isn't here yet >.< |
| [00:52:16] | iamlindoro: | usb lirc tranny |
| [00:52:22] | sphery: | set the channel change script to /bin/true |
| [00:52:23] | iamlindoro: | I don't like lirc either, but relax |
| [00:52:23] | KennyJ: | transceiver |
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| [00:52:38] | justinh: | no need to be genderphobic man |
| [00:52:43] | KennyJ: | :D |
| [00:53:02] | justinh: | this is a progressive channel |
| [00:53:11] | iamlindoro: | justinh, agreed, no namecalling here |
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| [00:53:34] | justinh: | telling people to DIAF.. ahem |
| [00:53:37] | iamlindoro: | except when I do it, and the person is on the list and can't hear me. and even then, I'd choose something fire related |
| [00:53:39] | KennyJ: | I always call tranceivers trannys :D because they have both ;) |
| [00:53:40] | iamlindoro: | HA |
| [00:53:56] | wagnerrp: | thats not a tranny |
| [00:53:56] | sphery: | I feel bad for saying that port knocking should GDIAF |
| [00:54:14] | KennyJ: | well technically no, but almost |
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| [00:54:44] | KennyJ: | so you're saying if I don't have a channel change script it won't work? |
| [00:54:57] | sphery: | likely no |
| [00:54:59] | justinh: | I wish update manager would GDIAF |
| [00:55:02] | sphery: | set it to /bin/true |
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| [00:55:33] | KennyJ: | ok *grunts as he digs up wireless keyboard to kill backend again* |
| [00:56:16] | sphery: | the wireless keyboard's a good idea. Without that wire, you can get a /much/ longer backswing so you can really increase the force of the hit when trying to kill the backend. |
| [00:56:37] | oobe: | lols |
| [00:56:56] | KennyJ: | :D |
| [00:57:26] | wagnerrp: | sphery: but you know those M's, they weighed like 10lbs and that coiled wire can probably be stretched out to 15ft |
| [00:57:39] | Huijari: | model m's <3 |
| [00:57:52] | sphery: | never used one of those |
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| [00:58:06] | sphery: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_M_keyboard |
| [00:58:14] | KennyJ: | you know what they say about those IBm model m's |
| [00:58:14] | wagnerrp: | its just very comfortable to type on |
| [00:58:19] | sphery: | oh, guess I did--on the PC XT |
| [00:58:19] | wagnerrp: | loud as hell |
| [00:58:28] | wagnerrp: | but you can pound away on them for hours |
| [00:58:37] | jams: | yeah they are loud |
| [00:58:44] | sphery: | isn't someone making a new version of those? |
| [00:58:50] | KennyJ: | only two things survive an atom bomb, cockroaches |
| [00:58:52] | jams: | if they came in split form I would buy it |
| [00:58:56] | wagnerrp: | das keyboard makes something similar |
| [00:58:59] | KennyJ: | and IBM model m keyboards |
| [00:59:08] | wagnerrp: | and i think there is still a company making clones of them |
| [00:59:14] | KennyJ: | yup with usb |
| [00:59:22] | KennyJ: | but they're like 60 bucks |
| [00:59:45] | wagnerrp: | well das keyboard is like $100 |
| [00:59:52] | wagnerrp: | and for that much, you dont even get lettering on the keys |
| [01:00:03] | sphery: | yeah, I think it's the das keyboards I was thinking of |
| [01:00:16] | KennyJ: | I just use my old M with a PS/2 usb adapter |
| [01:00:32] | wagnerrp: | we have a couple Ms at work |
| [01:00:41] | wagnerrp: | most disgusting keyboard ive ever seen |
| [01:00:49] | wagnerrp: | could really stand a run through the dish washer |
| [01:00:51] | KennyJ: | whaaat? |
| [01:01:05] | wagnerrp: | 20 years of dirt and finger grime |
| [01:01:20] | wagnerrp: | you can take your fingernail and scrape it off |
| [01:01:22] | KennyJ: | well the keys caps are removalble |
| [01:01:27] | KennyJ: | *able |
| [01:01:48] | KennyJ: | throw em in the waschmachine |
| [01:01:58] | sphery: | on Gentle, I hope? |
| [01:02:29] | KennyJ: | thats why waschmachine :D a dishwasher would tear em up |
| [01:02:54] | Dagmar: | You don't put keyboards in the washing machine |
| [01:03:02] | Dagmar: | You put them in the top rack of the dishwasher |
| [01:03:06] | KennyJ: | but those keyboards are so study, they could handle it |
| [01:03:16] | wagnerrp: | studly? |
| [01:03:23] | Dagmar: | Preferably after taking all the keys off and putting them in a mesh bag like what's left over after you cut open one of those plastic loofa sponges |
| [01:03:25] | KennyJ: | hell you could murder someone with em |
| [01:03:56] | wagnerrp: | hell, theres about a hundred objects within arms reach i could murder someone with |
| [01:03:59] | KennyJ: | ive never done it, just a suggestion |
| [01:04:14] | KennyJ: | but, it wouldn't take much force with a model m |
| [01:04:38] | wagnerrp: | ive got a bit pointy chunk of solid marble and brass that would do a damn better job than an M |
| [01:05:05] | sphery: | wagnerrp: Unicomp makes the Model M clones |
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| [01:05:15] | sphery: | http://jseliger.com/2008/05/07/product-review . . . er-keyboard/ |
| [01:05:21] | KennyJ: | but you just has more style if you murder your boss with a model m |
| [01:05:29] | KennyJ: | imagine the headline |
| [01:06:05] | KennyJ: | disgruntled programmer blugeons boss with keyboard |
| [01:06:06] | wagnerrp: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLRwTCz4dLQ |
| [01:06:27] | KennyJ: | * add a d in there |
| [01:07:23] | KennyJ: | k added /bin/true |
| [01:07:36] | KennyJ: | I don't have to run mythfilldatabase again, or? |
| [01:08:07] | sphery: | http://www.reddit.com/r/gadgets/comments/9ujm . . . er_keyboard/ |
| [01:08:18] | sphery: | KennyJ: only need to run mythfilldatabase if you delete video sources |
| [01:08:40] | KennyJ: | ahhh ok, the damn thing took an hour before >.< |
| [01:09:00] | sphery: | with schedules direct? |
| [01:09:02] | sphery: | wow |
| [01:09:17] | sphery: | for me: Last mythfilldatabase run started on 2009-11–02 09:08 and ended on 2009-11–02 09:08. Successful |
| [01:09:54] | KennyJ: | jup |
| [01:10:09] | KennyJ: | I think it pulled an entire month or so? dunno |
| [01:10:15] | sphery: | pulls 2 weeks |
| [01:10:21] | KennyJ: | seemed like it was doing the same thing |
| [01:10:21] | sphery: | the first pull would definitely take longer |
| [01:10:31] | KennyJ: | well yeah was the first one |
| [01:10:54] | sphery: | but I'd expect it should be on the order of 10 times as long as a daily pull at max |
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| [01:11:02] | sphery: | so up to 10mins |
| [01:11:08] | KennyJ: | hm |
| [01:11:13] | KennyJ: | oh well it's there |
| [01:11:19] | sphery: | might have been some network issues |
| [01:11:28] | sphery: | I've heard of sporadic issues with SD lately |
| [01:11:35] | sphery: | so, maybe just bad timing |
| [01:11:47] | KennyJ: | yeah it seemed it was pulling with about 5 kb/s O.o |
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| [01:12:22] | KennyJ: | hm still doesn't seem to work |
| [01:12:31] | KennyJ: | here's what he tells me: |
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| [01:13:38] | KennyJ: | TV: Attempting to change from none to WatchingLiveTV |
| [01:13:38] | KennyJ: | Using Protocol version 40 |
| [01:13:38] | KennyJ: | MythSocket |
| [01:13:40] | ExElNeT: | the mythtv plugins are installed on the client (frontend) right? |
| [01:13:57] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [01:14:25] | KennyJ: | MythSocket(Numbermumbojumbo) Readstringlist: Error, timeout (quick) |
| [01:14:33] | ExElNeT: | wagnerrp: thanks. |
| [01:14:52] | KennyJ: | TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started (2x) |
| [01:14:52] | wagnerrp: | crap |
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| [01:15:07] | wagnerrp: | i just kicked out a plug under my desk, shutting down my KVM and killing my primary monitor |
| [01:15:19] | KennyJ: | TV: deleting TV chain in destructor |
| [01:15:34] | KennyJ: | DPMS Deactivated (2x) |
| [01:15:37] | KennyJ: | thats all |
| [01:16:11] | sphery: | the quick timeout is important, but I don't remember what it means |
| [01:16:15] | sphery: | search for it on the lists |
| [01:16:20] | KennyJ: | k |
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| [01:26:53] | oobe: | wagnerrp, why did you do that? |
| [01:27:05] | mzb: | stress testing? ;) |
| [01:27:17] | oobe: | :P |
| [01:27:54] | KennyJ: | manual reset.. |
| [01:28:50] | KennyJ: | damn, there so much about the readstringlist timeout but nothing fits >.< |
| [01:30:08] | wagnerrp: | aww damnit! |
| [01:30:17] | Jester86: | so i have a ? .. the PC in my bedroom is setup to be master but once I get the pc in the living room done i want it ot be the master and the one in my bedroom to be the slave.. is there an easy way to do this or do i need to kill my current masterbackend? |
| [01:30:24] | wagnerrp: | i dont care about election polls during my V |
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| [01:31:04] | sphery: | KennyJ: yeah, I'm half-looking while talking with a friend and haven't found anything useful |
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| [01:32:00] | KennyJ: | ive found something similar: |
| [01:32:00] | KennyJ: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . meout;#47097 |
| [01:32:10] | mangus580: | evening guys |
| [01:32:18] | mangus580: | got a capture card ? |
| [01:32:20] | justinh: | going through some old HDDs to find out what's on them |
| [01:32:29] | mangus580: | looking for a usb capture setup, that can do HDTV |
| [01:32:38] | mangus580: | using component cables, or hdmi |
| [01:33:07] | KennyJ: | justinh: always fun, just like christmas ;) |
| [01:33:23] | KennyJ: | "I didn't know I had that app!" |
| [01:33:23] | justinh: | remember http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/stuff/ ? |
| [01:33:29] | Jester86: | mangus580, do u know if its possible to set a masterbackend to be a slave backend? |
| [01:34:01] | justinh: | I think it could use some work but I could see myself using it |
| [01:34:13] | wagnerrp: | Jester86: the database stores one main IP, and one IP for each backend |
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| [01:34:20] | KennyJ: | pretty nice |
| [01:34:21] | Jester86: | my master backend is currently on my P4 2.4ghz machine.. once i get my other box ready I want to set my P4 2.8ghz machine to be the master backend |
| [01:34:32] | wagnerrp: | if a backend finds its IP matches that stored for the master, it will make itself the master |
| [01:34:43] | wagnerrp: | so all you have to do to swap masters is change that one IP |
| [01:35:00] | Jester86: | nice! |
| [01:35:49] | Jester86: | i love mythtv :) |
| [01:35:59] | Jester86: | i enabled the flash video playback.. very nice |
| [01:36:22] | Jester86: | my buddy that lives nearly a state away is watching videos off my mythweb account |
| [01:36:38] | Jester86: | says its working completely flawlessly |
| [01:36:47] | KennyJ: | so mythweb is a webinterface for mythtv? |
| [01:36:55] | Jester86: | yeah |
| [01:37:04] | KennyJ: | <- complete MythTV noob |
| [01:37:09] | wagnerrp: | rather its a web-based control for mythtv |
| [01:37:15] | Jester86: | you just input the ip address for your backend in a browser |
| [01:37:18] | wagnerrp: | it does not really function as a frontend |
| [01:37:26] | KennyJ: | huh thats nice |
| [01:37:27] | Jester86: | its getting better tho |
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| [01:37:33] | wagnerrp: | there is some limited media playback |
| [01:37:42] | Jester86: | i'm watching that 70s show over my other pc right now ;) |
| [01:37:52] | KennyJ: | another have a remote frontend would be to forward mythfrontend via ssh |
| [01:38:03] | KennyJ: | *another way |
| [01:38:12] | KennyJ: | *brains going into sleepmode |
| [01:38:13] | wagnerrp: | also, no good for playback |
| [01:38:20] | Jester86: | lol |
| [01:38:30] | brad2: | hey guys, i have a directory that mythvideo is scanning, that isn't in my storage groups |
| [01:38:31] | Jester86: | trust me.. mythtv is great |
| [01:38:39] | brad2: | i think it used to be, and i deleted it, but it is still scanning |
| [01:38:49] | Jester86: | KennyJ, i can help u out w/ mythweb if u want |
| [01:38:52] | brad2: | i checked the db, and the entry doesn't exist in the storagegroup table |
| [01:38:55] | brad2: | any ideas where i could look? |
| [01:39:31] | justinh: | haha the animated background demo is here |
| [01:39:42] | justinh: | and now the image loading is threaded.. ooooooo tempting |
| [01:39:46] | brad2: | oh wait i know |
| [01:39:48] | brad2: | i'm an idiot |
| [01:39:50] | brad2: | nevermind |
| [01:39:58] | Jester86: | KennyJ, first thing u have to do is assign a static IP to your mythbox |
| [01:40:09] | KennyJ: | I'd see about that later, but first I want to actually be able to watch normal TV with my box ^^ thanks though |
| [01:40:18] | Jester86: | haha |
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| [01:40:20] | Jester86: | alright |
| [01:40:25] | Jester86: | whats the issue ur having Kenny |
| [01:40:29] | Jester86: | whats the issue ur having KennyJ |
| [01:40:57] | KennyJ: | well recording works, but livetv: screen goes blank for a few seconds then back to main menu |
| [01:41:10] | KennyJ: | console gives me Mythsocket error timeout (quick) |
| [01:41:18] | Jester86: | alright KennyJ I had that lastnight |
| [01:41:41] | Jester86: | I lost power while it was recording and it f'd it all up |
| [01:42:03] | wagnerrp: | arg... why cant they to the polls, weather, and other various tickers during the ads... |
| [01:42:19] | Jester86: | first thing u want to do KennyJ is check the DB |
| [01:42:32] | KennyJ: | ok check for what |
| [01:42:32] | Jester86: | KennyJ, go PM? |
| [01:42:37] | KennyJ: | sure |
| [01:42:42] | Jester86: | alright |
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| [01:52:21] | oobe: | i was think it would be possible to setup voice control for linux to control mythfrontend |
| [01:52:42] | oobe: | i was think |
| [01:52:43] | oobe: | lol |
| [01:53:33] | KennyJ: | probably quite easy, or? there are several projects out there, all you'd have to do would set up the voice commands and have them emulate keypresses |
| [01:54:28] | KennyJ: | but for extended control, probably take more work |
| [01:55:50] | KennyJ: | would be awesome though "Mythtv play pulp fiction" |
| [01:57:42] | oobe: | thats what i was thinking |
| [01:58:10] | oobe: | just things like play pause left right up down info menu |
| [01:58:34] | oobe: | thats all you would need and i have seen voice recognition software around |
| [01:58:42] | KennyJ: | prob could do that in a day or too |
| [01:58:54] | KennyJ: | a lot of them are quite old though |
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| [02:04:42] | unimaginative: | "mythtv find dvda" |
| [02:06:31] | justinh: | well, BBC2 has been switched off. The beginning of the end of analogue in this region |
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| [02:09:05] | OpenMedia: | justinh: Nice. Any sign of DVB-T2 compatible tuner cards yet for getting the new HD services. |
| [02:09:19] | justinh: | nope |
| [02:09:34] | justinh: | not even any sign of the STBs yet |
| [02:10:35] | OpenMedia: | It will be interesting to see how similar the streams are to the HD service we have here in NZ |
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| [02:10:57] | OpenMedia: | Wondering how many support calls they get about BBC2 going missing ;) |
| [02:14:58] | justinh: | heh |
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| [02:16:06] | wagnerrp: | agh... you west coast people suck |
| [02:16:11] | wagnerrp: | several hours before i can say anything |
| [02:17:16] | KennyJ: | .. smell of victory! |
| [02:18:58] | wagnerrp: | plus i want to make references to a certain bad guy, and various deaths... but i cant |
| [02:19:59] | oobe: | this looks promising http://sourceforge.net/projects/voicekey/ |
| [02:20:11] | oobe: | but appears to have no documentation |
| [02:21:15] | KennyJ: | ehh who needs documentation, read the code xD |
| [02:21:20] | justinh: | must be an open source thing |
| [02:21:27] | KennyJ: | <- too lazy to read either |
| [02:21:46] | KennyJ: | but the mythtv doc is a bit awkward |
| [02:21:57] | KennyJ: | not to detailed |
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| [02:25:11] | justinh: | oh crap. they've actually turned the BBC mux off |
| [02:26:12] | oobe: | KennyJ, it was updateed this morning |
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| [02:34:14] | KennyJ: | ah xD I always choose the right moment to do something O.o |
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| [02:48:01] | OpenMedia: | justinh: There was a warning that some of the muxes would be off for a while |
| [02:48:35] | OpenMedia: | http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitaltv/news/a1 . . . tchover.html |
| [02:50:36] | OpenMedia: | http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/Resolution . . . -Transmitter |
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| [03:08:53] | Josh_: | Can anyone suggest why the program guide under "Schedule Recordings" is so quick and responsive, but while watching liveTV, the program guide is utterly slow |
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| [03:21:55] | Jester86: | anyone have any success in turning off their tv via mythtv and an IR blaster? |
| [03:23:04] | wagnerrp: | cant be done |
| [03:23:16] | Jester86: | why cant it? |
| [03:23:31] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has no such capability |
| [03:23:43] | Jester86: | well then we could use lirc |
| [03:23:44] | Jester86: | ;) |
| [03:23:55] | wagnerrp: | you either need to use irexec to program a button to send the command to the blaster/tv |
| [03:23:59] | Jester86: | just keep a special button on the remote designated for tv power |
| [03:24:03] | wagnerrp: | or put something in your shutdown scripts to do so |
| [03:24:33] | Jester86: | well the thing is.. my box will be on 24/7.. just want to be able to turn the tv off from the same remote lol |
| [03:24:41] | Jester86: | should just buy an intelligent remote |
| [03:24:51] | wagnerrp: | that would be the easiest solution |
| [03:25:15] | Jester86: | yeah |
| [03:25:24] | Jester86: | alright, another ? for you |
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| [03:25:57] | Jester86: | i have a shared folder.. shared via samba.. my mythbox can see it but i cannot figure out a way to mount it |
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| [03:26:09] | wagnerrp: | smbmount? |
| [03:26:40] | Jester86: | well i tried using a gui tool to mount and for some reason it'd allow me to what i believe mounted it but it would not open the filesystem |
| [03:26:54] | Jester86: | used gigolo |
| [03:27:26] | maddslacker: | I have installed the tmdb.pl script from here: |
| [03:27:26] | maddslacker: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tmdb.pl |
| [03:27:26] | maddslacker: | but still no lookups are there other steps than those in that wiki entry? |
| [03:27:58] | wagnerrp: | maddslacker: what version of mythtv? |
| [03:28:23] | maddslacker: | 0.22rc2 |
| [03:28:34] | wagnerrp: | then you shouldnt touch anything |
| [03:28:49] | maddslacker: | should "jusr work" |
| [03:28:52] | maddslacker: | *just |
| [03:29:00] | maddslacker: | ? |
| [03:29:06] | wagnerrp: | its one of the two packaged grabbers with mythvideo |
| [03:29:12] | maddslacker: | right |
| [03:29:13] | wagnerrp: | that and ttvdb.py |
| [03:29:49] | maddslacker: | so I guess my real question then is what to look at for why it's not working in mythvideo already :( |
| [03:30:09] | wagnerrp: | ttvdb gets called for anything that the file scanner picks up season and episode number |
| [03:30:18] | wagnerrp: | tmdb gets called for everything else |
| [03:31:28] | maddslacker: | could it be the naming convention of my movie files? |
| [03:31:37] | wagnerrp: | give an example |
| [03:32:13] | maddslacker: | Distric 9.avi |
| [03:32:13] | maddslacker: | Star Trek.avi |
| [03:32:22] | maddslacker: | heh, nice typo |
| [03:32:26] | maddslacker: | just noticed that |
| [03:32:27] | wagnerrp: | should work just fine |
| [03:32:34] | maddslacker: | that's what I thought too |
| [03:32:42] | wagnerrp: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythVideo_File_Parsing |
| [03:33:45] | maddslacker: | yeah, according to that it should grab it |
| [03:33:46] | maddslacker: | hmm |
| [03:33:47] | wagnerrp: | for future reference, District 9 has not been released |
| [03:34:02] | wagnerrp: | do not claim to have files that you could not legally have |
| [03:34:10] | [R]: | lol |
| [03:34:14] | wagnerrp: | assistance ends here |
| [03:34:18] | maddslacker: | file name != file |
| [03:34:29] | [R]: | rofl |
| [03:34:52] | maddslacker: | for al lyou know it's a preview from the movie list.com |
| [03:35:24] | wagnerrp: | then why would you bother grabbing metadata for it |
| [03:35:34] | maddslacker: | whatever |
| [03:36:17] | maddslacker: | technically, since I run linux, having any movie file onmy hard drive is illegal |
| [03:36:22] | maddslacker: | even if I purchased the dvd |
| [03:36:29] | maddslacker: | since libdvdcss is illegal |
| [03:36:36] | maddslacker: | oh,and that makes mythdvd illegal as well |
| [03:36:37] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [03:36:42] | maddslacker: | **mythvideo i mean |
| [03:36:50] | wagnerrp: | distributing libdvdcss in the US is illegal |
| [03:37:01] | wagnerrp: | it is perfectly legal for an end user to use it for personal backups |
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| [03:38:14] | maddslacker: | but how did I get it inthe US if not illegally? |
| [03:38:36] | iamlindoro: | maddslacker, myth doesn't distribute it, thus we are legal-- what YOU do is not up to us |
| [03:38:43] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, do you know how to mount a samba drive in fstab? |
| [03:38:45] | iamlindoro: | please drop the topic or get banned, one and only warning |
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| [03:39:02] | wagnerrp: | Jester86: i have in the past, i dont remember how off hand |
| [03:39:06] | boblawblah: | hi everyone! i just got my mythtv box setup and all im getting is static/noise on the watch tv output |
| [03:39:12] | maddslacker: | so back to my question, what can I check to see why movie data not being retrieved? |
| [03:39:12] | Jester86: | darn it! |
| [03:39:13] | Jester86: | lol |
| [03:39:28] | maddslacker: | Jester86, one sec and I can get that for you |
| [03:39:30] | maddslacker: | what distro? |
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| [03:39:45] | Jester86: | mythbuntu/ubuntu |
| [03:39:46] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter, fstab syntax is universally the same |
| [03:40:00] | maddslacker: | k, cuz some are use cifs and some smbfs |
| [03:40:08] | maddslacker: | wagnerrp, ^^ |
| [03:40:23] | wagnerrp: | everything *should* be using cifs |
| [03:40:26] | maddslacker: | some older distros woll error out if yo specify cifs |
| [03:40:28] | brad2: | iamlindoro: I am working on my useless plugin, and i can't seem to figure out how to set up events for particular keys.. i.e. the stop button on the remote.. can you point me in the direction of the right function? |
| [03:40:47] | iamlindoro: | brad2, Not sure what you're trying to do? |
| [03:40:57] | iamlindoro: | need to be specific |
| [03:41:02] | brad2: | basically i want to run a function, whenever i hit the stop button on the remote |
| [03:41:15] | iamlindoro: | the remote has nothing to do with it, the remote is just a binding to a key |
| [03:41:17] | maddslacker: | Jester86, this is the tutaorial I used |
| [03:41:21] | maddslacker: | http://anothersysadmin.wordpress.com/2007/12/ . . . ential-file/ |
| [03:41:26] | maddslacker: | with the credentials file |
| [03:41:35] | iamlindoro: | look at the main.cpp for any plugin to see how a keybinding is registered |
| [03:41:36] | Jester86: | awesome |
| [03:41:42] | brad2: | thanks |
| [03:41:48] | iamlindoro: | brad2, np |
| [03:42:15] | Jester86: | maddslacker, thats not fstab tho.. |
| [03:42:24] | iamlindoro: | brad2, specifically, look at REG_KEY |
| [03:42:30] | Jester86: | well it is but i think thats more intense than i need |
| [03:42:39] | brad2: | ahh i knew i saw that somewhere! thanks again |
| [03:42:55] | maddslacker: | Jester86, http://linuxpoison.blogspot.com/2007/10/mount . . . g-fstab.html |
| [03:43:02] | maddslacker: | the link was near the bottom, sorry about that |
| [03:43:11] | iamlindoro: | brad2, that's the registration of the key, but then you need a keypress event handler in the screen |
| [03:43:11] | maddslacker: | but the credentials file applies |
| [03:43:28] | iamlindoro: | brad2, usually called keyPressEvent in most of the existing plugins |
| [03:43:36] | iamlindoro: | brad2, that's where you associate the binding to a function |
| [03:44:25] | iamlindoro: | example, if (action == "SOMEBINDING") somFunction(); |
| [03:44:31] | iamlindoro: | er someFunction(); |
| [03:44:40] | maddslacker: | Jester86, did that work? |
| [03:44:40] | brad2: | makes sense |
| [03:45:17] | brad2: | just wait until i unleash my useless plugin on the world! muwahahah ;) |
| [03:46:02] | maddslacker: | Jester86, here's one in plain english ;) |
| [03:46:03] | maddslacker: | http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Moun . . . anently.html |
| [03:46:14] | boblawblah: | anyone know why i can scan for channels but not get any video on them? |
| [03:46:19] | maddslacker: | that's actually the very first howto I used back in the day |
| [03:46:51] | wagnerrp: | boblawblah: youre getting static? |
| [03:46:57] | boblawblah: | yes |
| [03:47:15] | wagnerrp: | you shouldnt be scanning analog channels, you should pull them from your listings provider |
| [03:47:29] | brad2: | speaking of which, i wanted to ask you guys, i was thinking of doing a plugin to integrate XM Radio more fully into myth, as an actual plugin as opposed to the scripts described in (http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Integrate_XM), can anyone think of any legal hurdles with that? |
| [03:47:31] | wagnerrp: | what card, specifically? |
| [03:47:41] | boblawblah: | hauppauge 1800 |
| [03:47:48] | wagnerrp: | doesnt work with mythtv |
| [03:47:51] | wagnerrp: | digital works fine |
| [03:47:55] | wagnerrp: | analog works in linux |
| [03:48:05] | wagnerrp: | but there is a bug with the driver that prevents it working properly with mythtv |
| [03:48:06] | maddslacker: | brad2, that reminds me, is there any talk of a hulu plugin for mythtv? |
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| [03:48:12] | wagnerrp: | the analog that is |
| [03:48:23] | boblawblah: | so just normal cable tv doesnt work? |
| [03:48:42] | wagnerrp: | boblawblah: not with that card, not until the drivers get fixed |
| [03:48:49] | boblawblah: | ah snap |
| [03:48:57] | brad2: | maddslacker: no idea, i'm in canada, so hulu isn't very friendly to me :) |
| [03:49:05] | boblawblah: | thanks for the help wagnerrp |
| [03:49:07] | Josh_: | Jester86, did you get your issue worked out? |
| [03:49:37] | wagnerrp: | maddslacker: mythtv will not have a hulu plugin so long as their TOS prevents it |
| [03:49:39] | maddslacker: | brad2, yeah, a friend on another irc channel complains about that daily...heh |
| [03:49:49] | maddslacker: | wagnerrp, too bad, it's a neat product |
| [03:49:58] | maddslacker: | I use hulu desktop and it's great |
| [03:50:00] | wagnerrp: | considering what has been going on with boxee since early this year, dont expect that to happen any time soon |
| [03:50:06] | maddslacker: | heh, yeah |
| [03:50:19] | wagnerrp: | you can use hulu through mythbrowser, or you can alter your menu structure to add an exec call for hulu desktop |
| [03:50:23] | maddslacker: | i think I see my info issue |
| [03:50:36] | maddslacker: | I hadn't run mythfilldatabase, so I just did |
| [03:50:46] | maddslacker: | and got a whole bunch of 401 errors |
| [03:50:57] | Jester86: | Josh_, no i haven't |
| [03:51:14] | maddslacker: | Jester86, did you try that last link I pasted? |
| [03:51:19] | Josh_: | Jester86, what are you working on currently? :) |
| [03:52:19] | Jester86: | I'm trying to get a smb drive to mount |
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| [03:52:22] | Jester86: | in etc |
| [03:52:27] | Jester86: | yeah maddslacker i'm tryin |
| [03:52:31] | maddslacker: | why in /etc? |
| [03:52:34] | maddslacker: | that's weird |
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| [03:52:39] | Jester86: | yeah |
| [03:52:51] | maddslacker: | http://pastebin.com/d65564302 |
| [03:53:02] | maddslacker: | that's what I get whe I run mythfilldb |
| [03:53:05] | Josh_: | Jester86, it's your system, but you shouldn't ever need to mount anything into /etc/ |
| [03:53:23] | maddslacker: | err |
| [03:53:28] | maddslacker: | /media would make more sense |
| [03:53:54] | Jester86: | lol |
| [03:54:01] | Jester86: | no I'm mounting it to /media/shared |
| [03:54:06] | maddslacker: | ah |
| [03:54:14] | maddslacker: | you meant via /etc/fstab didn't you ;) |
| [03:54:14] | Josh_: | Jester86, good mount point. |
| [03:54:25] | Josh_: | Jester86, trying to mount it via /etc/fstab on bootup? |
| [03:54:49] | Jester86: | but its saying... mount error: could not resolve address for sphinx: Name or service not known. |
| [03:55:06] | Josh_: | Jester86, means your machine can't resolv the name "sphinx" |
| [03:55:08] | Jester86: | No ip address specified and hostname not found |
| [03:55:17] | maddslacker: | Jester86, can you ping it by name? |
| [03:55:27] | maddslacker: | you might need to make an entry for it in /etc/hosts |
| [03:55:31] | maddslacker: | or just use the IP{ |
| [03:55:33] | maddslacker: | address |
| [03:55:55] | Jester86: | maddslacker, I can't use IP since its DHCP |
| [03:55:59] | Jester86: | :-\ |
| [03:56:22] | maddslacker: | does it *have* to be dhcp? |
| [03:56:26] | Josh_: | Jester86, even though it's DHCP, it should still continue to use the same IP. |
| [03:56:32] | maddslacker: | right |
| [03:56:49] | maddslacker: | and I refuse to accept that ubuntu, the distro of the gods, can't resolve a host name .. heh |
| [03:57:10] | Jester86: | haha |
| [03:57:18] | Jester86: | Josh_, are you sure |
| [03:57:19] | Josh_: | maddslacker, no OS can resolve a hostname that it knows nothing about (DHCP/DNS handshake screwup) |
| [03:57:32] | maddslacker: | Jester86, did yo utry to ping it by name? |
| [03:57:46] | maddslacker: | joat, agreed, but it's always fun to bait the ubunters |
| [03:57:53] | Josh_: | Jester86, my local network IP is always 192.168.0.106, and has had that IP since I connected this box. |
| [03:57:58] | Jester86: | from this machine i can ping itself |
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| [03:58:10] | Jester86: | my mythbox doesnt have the ping command |
| [03:58:20] | maddslacker: | Jester86, can the samba client ping the samba host by name or not? |
| [03:58:24] | maddslacker: | oh, it doesn't? |
| [03:58:28] | maddslacker: | wth? |
| [03:58:40] | Josh_: | Jester86, just put a link to sphinx in the other box's /etc/hosts |
| [03:58:55] | Jester86: | crap |
| [03:59:04] | Jester86: | ping sphinx |
| [03:59:11] | Jester86: | ping: unkown host sphinx |
| [03:59:22] | Josh_: | Jester86, 'nslookup sphinx' |
| [03:59:31] | wagnerrp: | you have a DNS server setup? or otherwise defined in your hosts files? |
| [03:59:48] | Jester86: | Josh_, I have some stuff |
| [04:00:05] | maddslacker: | personally, I set a static IP on my file server, and then make an antry for it in hosts on my client box |
| [04:00:07] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, I dont now lol |
| [04:01:08] | Jester86: | well the partition i'm trying to mount is an esata on my desktop |
| [04:01:14] | Josh_: | Jester86, for a simple network (~5 hosts) /etc/hosts is all you need. |
| [04:01:14] | Jester86: | using it to store data for mythTV |
| [04:01:26] | Josh_: | Jester86, what's sphinx's IP address? |
| [04:01:34] | Jester86: | storing my movies.. then all i have to do is drop the downloaded files into the designated folder and bango |
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| [04:02:08] | Jester86: | i have 2 addresses given Josh_ |
| [04:02:20] | Josh_: | Jester86, two, eh? What are they? |
| [04:03:34] | Jester86: | Server: 209.18.47.61 address: "."."."#53 and non-authoritative answer: Name: sphinx, Address: 24.28.193.0 |
| [04:03:57] | Josh_: | hmm, that's a public IP. |
| [04:04:28] | Jester86: | no clue |
| [04:04:29] | maddslacker: | is the server a windows box? |
| [04:04:42] | Josh_: | maddslacker, I'm sure it is, why else would he need samba? |
| [04:04:51] | Jester86: | no it snot |
| [04:04:51] | maddslacker: | linux can be a samba host |
| [04:04:53] | Jester86: | its a linux box |
| [04:04:54] | maddslacker: | as can netapp |
| [04:04:58] | maddslacker: | solaris |
| [04:04:59] | maddslacker: | bsd |
| [04:05:13] | Jester86: | this share is being shared between me.. (linux) and 3 other windows runners :( |
| [04:05:24] | maddslacker: | can the winders clients get to it |
| [04:05:36] | Jester86: | i believe so |
| [04:05:40] | Jester86: | lemme check |
| [04:06:03] | Jester86: | i honestly wonder if there isnt something messed up w/ my desktop (the pc holding the file server) |
| [04:06:31] | maddslacker: | that's where I was headed |
| [04:06:32] | maddslacker: | heh |
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| [04:07:01] | Jester86: | i dont knwo what'd it be tho |
| [04:07:12] | Jester86: | this is a fresh install of 9.10 |
| [04:07:16] | Jester86: | not even a week old |
| [04:07:28] | maddslacker: | there can be a couple of options you need to set on the linux server when sharing out to windows boxes |
| [04:07:36] | maddslacker: | <Jester86> not even a week old |
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| [04:07:41] | maddslacker: | ^^ by definition! |
| [04:07:46] | Jester86: | haha |
| [04:08:01] | Jester86: | tru |
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| [04:09:02] | Jester86: | maddslacker, i just booted into a spare laptop and i can access the share no problem |
| [04:09:11] | Jester86: | its actually amazingly fast in windows :-\ |
| [04:09:21] | maddslacker: | ok |
| [04:09:27] | maddslacker: | so that's a good sanity check |
| [04:09:31] | maddslacker: | the issue is the client only |
| [04:09:43] | maddslacker: | can you browse to it in nautilius like this: |
| [04:09:49] | maddslacker: | smb://your_server |
| [04:10:03] | Jester86: | on the desktop yes |
| [04:10:18] | maddslacker: | no, I mean in the misbehaving lunix box |
| [04:10:22] | maddslacker: | *linux |
| [04:10:40] | Jester86: | the desktop is the one hosting the share |
| [04:10:48] | Jester86: | the mythbox is the one i'm trying to connect |
| [04:11:01] | maddslacker: | ok |
| [04:11:03] | Jester86: | just to clarify so we're not running in circles lol |
| [04:11:14] | maddslacker: | I think I am |
| [04:11:17] | Jester86: | so u want me to try that on the mythbox? |
| [04:11:21] | maddslacker: | yeah |
| [04:11:22] | maddslacker: | I think so |
| [04:11:27] | maddslacker: | smb://server |
| [04:11:38] | maddslacker: | ^^ the name first, then try the IP address |
| [04:11:48] | maddslacker: | so smb://server_name |
| [04:11:49] | maddslacker: | or |
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| [04:11:55] | maddslacker: | smb://ip_address |
| [04:12:39] | Jester86: | maddslacker, i'm in it via: smb://sphinx/ |
| [04:13:00] | maddslacker: | from the mythtv box? |
| [04:13:30] | Jester86: | yes sir |
| [04:13:40] | maddslacker: | ok |
| [04:13:42] | maddslacker: | if that works |
| [04:13:45] | maddslacker: | fstab will work |
| [04:13:49] | maddslacker: | it's the same command |
| [04:13:55] | maddslacker: | just have to get your syntax right |
| [04:14:15] | maddslacker: | does it prompt for a user/password, or no? |
| [04:14:28] | Jester86: | nope |
| [04:14:34] | Jester86: | now its giving me a diff error |
| [04:14:47] | Jester86: | h/o |
| [04:14:50] | Jester86: | lemme try something |
| [04:15:01] | maddslacker: | k |
| [04:15:57] | Jester86: | yup still saying the same old shit lol |
| [04:16:27] | Jester86: | my fstab is as follows |
| [04:16:48] | maddslacker: | pastebin it |
| [04:16:53] | maddslacker: | the whole file |
| [04:17:20] | Jester86: | /sphinx/shared /media/shared smbfs username="my un",password="my pw" 0 0 |
| [04:17:32] | maddslacker: | you need '// |
| [04:17:38] | Jester86: | shit yeah it is // |
| [04:17:39] | maddslacker: | //sphinx/shared |
| [04:17:39] | Jester86: | sorry |
| [04:17:42] | maddslacker: | heh |
| [04:17:43] | Jester86: | yeah i have that |
| [04:17:44] | Jester86: | lol |
| [04:18:05] | maddslacker: | and what's the error? |
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| [04:18:29] | Jester86: | could not resolve address for sphinx: name or service not known |
| [04:18:42] | Jester86: | no ip address specified and hostname not found |
| [04:18:57] | maddslacker: | do you have physical access to sphunx? |
| [04:19:03] | maddslacker: | sphynx |
| [04:19:15] | Jester86: | yup |
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| [04:19:24] | clever: | i just use ip, less to go wrong |
| [04:19:29] | maddslacker: | right |
| [04:19:32] | maddslacker: | but try this |
| [04:19:45] | Jester86: | yeah but i'm still worried that my router will jack up the ip address |
| [04:19:48] | maddslacker: | err |
| [04:20:03] | maddslacker: | //sphinx/shared /media/shared cifs -o username="my un",password="my pw" 0 0 |
| [04:20:17] | clever: | Jester86: some routers have static dhcp, and you can also staticly configure the ip and not use dhcp |
| [04:20:19] | maddslacker: | if you can get there via nautilus, it should work via fstab |
| [04:20:27] | clever: | maddslacker: -o is only for when using mount, its not needed in fstab |
| [04:20:28] | maddslacker: | clever, that's what I do |
| [04:20:35] | maddslacker: | oh, woopsd |
| [04:20:36] | maddslacker: | -d |
| [04:20:56] | maddslacker: | anyway, try cifs instead of smbfs |
| [04:21:01] | maddslacker: | jsut for giggles |
| [04:21:56] | Jester86: | says bad line |
| [04:22:02] | maddslacker: | huh |
| [04:22:45] | maddslacker: | next try the ip for a sanity check |
| [04:23:02] | maddslacker: | to see if samba is broken or dns |
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| [04:23:39] | clever: | i suspect that dns isnt even setup, and that stuff is just using 'netbios' to find the ip, which is an old windows thing |
| [04:24:53] | maddslacker: | I can see nautilus resolving dns but not a cli command |
| [04:24:59] | Jester86: | i put the ip into fstab.. tried running sudo mount //192.168.1.101/shared and its says its not in fstab |
| [04:25:21] | Jester86: | wait fuck |
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| [04:25:33] | Jester86: | it works but it says permission denied |
| [04:25:51] | clever: | same problem here |
| [04:26:00] | clever: | -o uid=1000 |
| [04:26:08] | maddslacker: | permission denied where? |
| [04:26:10] | clever: | that makes it owned by my username (insert your uid) |
| [04:26:33] | clever: | //192.168.1.101/shared /media/shared cifs username="my un",password="my pw",uid=1000 0 0 |
| [04:26:41] | clever: | (fstab line) |
| [04:27:21] | maddslacker: | clever, this is the tutorial I recommended: |
| [04:27:23] | maddslacker: | http://www.justlinux.com/nhf/Filesystems/Moun . . . anently.html |
| [04:27:26] | Jester86: | same here |
| [04:27:30] | Jester86: | same error |
| [04:27:39] | maddslacker: | paste the actual error |
| [04:27:40] | maddslacker: | please |
| [04:27:50] | clever: | Jester86: the 2nd permsions problem i had, was that the windows end was actualy read only |
| [04:28:08] | clever: | but an actual error msg would tell us what the problem is |
| [04:28:09] | Jester86: | mount error(13): Permission denied |
| [04:28:14] | clever: | ah |
| [04:28:20] | clever: | the username/pw you gave arent valid |
| [04:28:43] | Jester86: | the way its shared I shouldn't need to have a username and pw |
| [04:28:46] | clever: | i just use -o guest |
| [04:29:03] | Jester86: | if i use the browser to view the files i dont need to log into it |
| [04:29:08] | Jester86: | why do i have to if i mount? |
| [04:29:21] | maddslacker: | try it without either specified |
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| [04:29:42] | clever: | //192.168.1.101/shared /media/shared cifs guest,uid=1000 0 0 |
| [04:29:56] | clever: | or mount -v //192.168.1.101/shared /media/shared -t cifs -o guest,uid=1000 |
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| [04:30:21] | Jester86: | GOT IT! |
| [04:30:23] | Jester86: | sexxxxxy |
| [04:30:24] | Jester86: | haha |
| [04:30:32] | maddslacker: | Jester86, I just tried mine and I need a password for cifs but not in dolphin |
| [04:31:33] | maddslacker: | Jester86, well played |
| [04:32:15] | Jester86: | i can just say password="my pw" right |
| [04:32:24] | maddslacker: | yup |
| [04:32:25] | Jester86: | add that to the fstab? |
| [04:32:28] | maddslacker: | yup |
| [04:32:28] | Jester86: | sweet |
| [04:32:33] | maddslacker: | skip the user |
| [04:32:43] | Jester86: | now i'm going to try it by calling out the hostname |
| [04:32:59] | maddslacker: | right |
| [04:33:09] | maddslacker: | what model router do yo uhave? |
| [04:33:19] | Jester86: | fuck! |
| [04:33:25] | Jester86: | its still asking for my pw |
| [04:33:29] | Jester86: | even tho i have it stated |
| [04:34:26] | Jester86: | it asks for a password but i just put a bunch of rubbish in and it still accepted it |
| [04:34:33] | Jester86: | why is it asking for a password then? |
| [04:34:49] | clever: | probly doesnt need one at all |
| [04:34:54] | clever: | just use -o guest |
| [04:35:03] | Jester86: | what |
| [04:35:12] | Jester86: | yeah |
| [04:35:25] | clever: | add 'guest' to the list of options in the fstab or -o guest to the mount command |
| [04:35:43] | Jester86: | what i have is working via ip lemme try it for hostname |
| [04:35:46] | wagnerrp: | !!! |
| [04:35:52] | wagnerrp: | i found my long lost hard drive |
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| [04:36:35] | clever: | wagnerrp: and the decade old porn stash? :P |
| [04:37:16] | maddslacker: | no, I formatted it before I put it back |
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| [04:37:29] | clever: | ah |
| [04:38:10] | Jester86: | alright |
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| [04:38:16] | Jester86: | well i have tried the hostname |
| [04:38:26] | maddslacker: | and? |
| [04:38:51] | Jester86: | still says the hostname shit |
| [04:38:58] | maddslacker: | ok |
| [04:39:04] | Jester86: | can't resolve address for.. etc |
| [04:39:06] | maddslacker: | what model router do you have? |
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| [04:39:23] | Jester86: | linksys |
| [04:39:29] | maddslacker: | wrt54G? |
| [04:39:35] | Jester86: | model wrt546s v7 |
| [04:39:37] | maddslacker: | ok |
| [04:39:49] | maddslacker: | I don't believe that supports static dhcp |
| [04:39:49] | maddslacker: | so |
| [04:39:56] | maddslacker: | I would give the server a static ip |
| [04:40:04] | maddslacker: | something like 192.168.1.25 |
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| [04:40:16] | maddslacker: | ^^ outside the dhcp range |
| [04:40:27] | clever: | just remember to also set the dns and gateway properly |
| [04:40:38] | Jester86: | say what lol |
| [04:40:47] | maddslacker: | right |
| [04:40:52] | clever: | do everything that dhcp normaly does for you |
| [04:40:55] | Jester86: | i'm looking at the online utility now |
| [04:41:01] | maddslacker: | online? |
| [04:41:07] | maddslacker: | of what? |
| [04:41:18] | Jester86: | i'm logged into the router |
| [04:41:21] | maddslacker: | oh |
| [04:41:23] | maddslacker: | no |
| [04:41:26] | maddslacker: | not in there |
| [04:41:31] | maddslacker: | close the door and back away |
| [04:41:32] | maddslacker: | heh |
| [04:41:53] | Jester86: | eh i had it open earlier.. had to open some ports for mythweb ;) |
| [04:41:59] | maddslacker: | H |
| [04:42:00] | maddslacker: | AH |
| [04:42:01] | Jester86: | and mythstatus |
| [04:43:07] | maddslacker: | anyway |
| [04:43:15] | maddslacker: | give the server a static ip |
| [04:43:19] | Jester86: | why in the hell isnt it working via hostname tho lol |
| [04:43:24] | maddslacker: | dunno |
| [04:43:27] | maddslacker: | it's ubunt man |
| [04:43:30] | Jester86: | give my main box a static ip? |
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| [04:43:35] | maddslacker: | the server |
| [04:43:39] | maddslacker: | sphynx |
| [04:43:43] | maddslacker: | needs static |
| [04:43:46] | Jester86: | alright |
| [04:43:49] | maddslacker: | client doesn't matter |
| [04:44:45] | Jester86: | how do i do this? lol |
| [04:44:51] | maddslacker: | umm |
| [04:44:59] | maddslacker: | been a while since I ran ubuntu |
| [04:45:09] | maddslacker: | system, administer..network manager maybe? |
| [04:45:47] | maddslacker: | Jester86, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+set+static+IP+address |
| [04:45:48] | maddslacker: | hehe |
| [04:46:02] | Jester86: | haha |
| [04:46:03] | Jester86: | haha |
| [04:46:06] | Jester86: | what a dick.. |
| [04:46:07] | Jester86: | haha |
| [04:46:19] | maddslacker: | but now you can use it on your friends :D |
| [04:46:27] | Jester86: | i didnt know if i had to do anything fancy or not |
| [04:46:31] | maddslacker: | nope |
| [04:46:46] | maddslacker: | ip address below your dhcp range, so < .100 |
| [04:46:55] | maddslacker: | gateway is the router |
| [04:47:05] | maddslacker: | and dns is whatever the router has listed |
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| [04:47:42] | Jester86: | maddslacker, would u go above or below the dhcp? |
| [04:47:54] | maddslacker: | me personally below |
| [04:48:05] | maddslacker: | when I had that router I used .25 |
| [04:48:09] | Jester86: | looks like my range is 192.168.1.100 max #50 |
| [04:48:14] | maddslacker: | yup |
| [04:48:17] | maddslacker: | go belo |
| [04:48:17] | maddslacker: | w |
| [04:48:21] | Jester86: | ko |
| [04:48:22] | maddslacker: | in case you grow it ;D |
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| [04:48:31] | Jester86: | tru lol |
| [04:52:17] | Jester86: | maddslacker, this machine has 2 ethernet ports |
| [04:52:24] | Jester86: | should i configure eth0 and eth1 |
| [04:52:30] | Jester86: | so that they're both static? |
| [04:53:06] | maddslacker: | are both connected? |
| [04:53:16] | Jester86: | not currently |
| [04:53:21] | Jester86: | will be down the road tho |
| [04:53:42] | Jester86: | and do i have to remove dhcp-client? |
| [04:54:02] | maddslacker: | shouldn't have to |
| [04:54:08] | Jester86: | i followed another tutorial to do this b4 now that i think about it and it didnt have me remove the client |
| [04:54:14] | maddslacker: | and leave eth1 alone if it's disconnected |
| [04:54:19] | maddslacker: | yeah |
| [04:54:20] | Jester86: | ok |
| [04:54:21] | maddslacker: | no need |
| [04:54:40] | maddslacker: | for dual nics, I would bond them, but that's outside the scope now |
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| [04:55:39] | tbone: | can't figure out how to del old watched recordings, del recordings seems like it does nothing |
| [04:56:40] | Jester86: | maddslacker, .. it used a different ip than i gave it :-\ |
| [04:58:00] | maddslacker: | ru sure? |
| [04:58:19] | maddslacker: | ugh |
| [04:58:29] | maddslacker: | so I still have no retrieved movie details |
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| [04:58:44] | maddslacker: | even after signing up at schedulesdirect.org |
| [04:59:08] | maddslacker: | and configuring tmdb.pl |
| [04:59:19] | tbone: | i don't think you get movie details, just livetv details |
| [04:59:27] | maddslacker: | right |
| [04:59:42] | maddslacker: | I guess it's tmdb.pl that's broken in my case |
| [05:01:11] | tbone: | So what myfill isn't working? |
| [05:01:29] | maddslacker: | well it says successful |
| [05:01:39] | maddslacker: | but mythvideo movies files have no details retrieved |
| [05:02:50] | tbone: | you went to their website and configure all the settings. |
| [05:03:03] | maddslacker: | which |
| [05:03:04] | maddslacker: | ? |
| [05:03:18] | maddslacker: | https://www.schedulesdirect.org? |
| [05:03:25] | maddslacker: | if so, yes, it's all set |
| [05:03:33] | maddslacker: | and that appears to be working |
| [05:04:11] | maddslacker: | actually, I take that back |
| [05:04:13] | tbone: | can't remember but i think it was there, just has options like atsc, or cable , zipcode |
| [05:04:19] | maddslacker: | getting 402 again |
| [05:04:24] | maddslacker: | yeah, the web is enabled |
| [05:04:33] | maddslacker: | I'm checking myth config now |
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| [05:06:22] | maddslacker: | mythtv-setup is succcessful retrieving my lineup when I enter my login info |
| [05:07:34] | maddslacker: | mythfilldatabase is working now :D |
| [05:07:46] | tbone: | good |
| [05:07:55] | maddslacker: | but is movie info from tmdb different? |
| [05:08:38] | tbone: | I have no clue, i haven't seen or heard of tmdb |
| [05:08:58] | maddslacker: | part of mythvideo plugin |
| [05:09:11] | tbone: | is it for rippind dvd's? |
| [05:09:17] | maddslacker: | correct |
| [05:09:51] | tbone: | oh so its suppose to look up album art stuff , for dvd , like the way it works for ripping audio |
| [05:09:53] | tbone: | ? |
| [05:10:02] | maddslacker: | exactly |
| [05:10:25] | maddslacker: | it used to use imdb, but they shut it off, so now it uses tmdb.org |
| [05:10:28] | tbone: | yeah that doesn't work for me either. I was wondering if they even had that feature |
| [05:10:33] | mag0o: | is there a similar switch for mfd that does the opposite of --remove-new-channels and will remove channels from the db that are no longer in my sd lineup? |
| [05:10:35] | maddslacker: | supposed to |
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| [05:11:37] | tbone: | Well, that will be great when it works! It must be universal problem though |
| [05:11:56] | wagnerrp: | imdb made scrapers against their TOS, so themoviedb sprung up to replace it |
| [05:12:04] | maddslacker: | right |
| [05:12:16] | maddslacker: | and IMO tmdb is a nicer product anyway |
| [05:12:24] | wagnerrp: | with much better imagery, and a real API to access |
| [05:12:29] | maddslacker: | yup |
| [05:12:39] | wagnerrp: | the only problem is server load |
| [05:12:46] | wagnerrp: | currently theyre not up to snuff |
| [05:12:51] | maddslacker: | anyway, can I look for errors somewhere as to why mine isn't updating? |
| [05:12:54] | wagnerrp: | and so weekends can be a bit of a problem |
| [05:13:23] | wagnerrp: | theres always the logs |
| [05:13:27] | tbone: | do you have to change some settings to get it to work in default karmic install |
| [05:13:40] | wagnerrp: | it *should* work by default in any 0.22 install |
| [05:14:04] | wagnerrp: | so there should be nothing you have to do in karmic |
| [05:14:14] | tbone: | ok, haven't ripped anything in couple weeks but it hasn't worked for me yet |
| [05:14:49] | wagnerrp: | works fine for me |
| [05:15:27] | tbone: | although on the ripdvd screen there some buttons that have no text don't know what thats about either |
| [05:16:34] | tbone: | thats good am really glad they have that feature, I will look into more now that i know it suppose to be working |
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| [05:16:44] | wagnerrp: | mythdvd was largely ignored during the rewrite, so they may be some lingering issues with it, ive never used it so i have no idea |
| [05:17:09] | iamlindoro: | nothing wrong with MythDVD, missing button labels are a theme issue |
| [05:17:53] | iamlindoro: | and metadata grabbing has nothing to do with DVD ripping, if people are expecting it to be automatic, it's not, and if they're running it properly, then logs reveal all |
| [05:18:14] | tbone: | do all you myth masters use a particular theme, a favorite? |
| [05:18:33] | wagnerrp: | gant |
| [05:18:38] | iamlindoro: | Arclight! |
| [05:19:14] | tbone: | ewh, so how long to the new ati xvba thing might work? |
| [05:19:27] | wagnerrp: | tbone: that all depends on ATI |
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| [05:19:34] | tbone: | i just read today that they opened it up |
| [05:19:39] | wagnerrp: | and how long it takes for them to explain how to use it |
| [05:20:00] | wagnerrp: | they opened it up? and activated it in cards? |
| [05:20:02] | iamlindoro: | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article . . . pi&num=1 |
| [05:20:09] | wagnerrp: | yeah... looking currently |
| [05:20:29] | wagnerrp: | its only been a YEAR since they first put it into the drivers |
| [05:21:19] | tbone: | yeah i guess it took that long to throw a wrapper on it ;), to try to hide whats going on. |
| [05:21:55] | wagnerrp: | so you dont actually use XvBA, you use VA-API? |
| [05:22:13] | tbone: | like people won't hack that. Yeah thats the way i read it |
| [05:22:16] | wagnerrp: | so right now, it should 'just work' |
| [05:22:45] | wagnerrp: | it will probably be until the next ffmpeg sync until myth gets support |
| [05:22:52] | wagnerrp: | sometime between now and 0.23 |
| [05:22:52] | iamlindoro: | if Myth/any player application had a libva output driver, which they don't :) |
| [05:23:11] | iamlindoro: | we'll still need a VAAPI renderer |
| [05:23:36] | tbone: | well in forom i think some people had it working in mplayer, not sure, some bugs apparently |
| [05:23:58] | wagnerrp: | because mplayer already had some form of vaapi support |
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| [05:25:36] | tbone: | well this will save me some watts when i play blueray's but to bad it don't help anything else |
| [05:25:37] | wagnerrp: | any R4000-based boards with svideo out? |
| [05:25:53] | maddslacker: | that was weird, network freaked out |
| [05:26:11] | maddslacker: | wagnerrp, so can tmdb.pl be run manually to watch for errors? |
| [05:26:19] | tbone: | wagnerrp: i think ati has some dongle |
| [05:26:31] | tbone: | for the 4000 series |
| [05:26:36] | wagnerrp: | directions are in the file itself |
| [05:26:42] | wagnerrp: | and on the wiki |
| [05:26:49] | maddslacker: | cool |
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| [05:30:15] | tbone: | wagnerrp:http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp . . . ;srchInDesc= |
| [05:31:17] | wagnerrp: | i mean motherboards |
| [05:32:04] | wagnerrp: | so basically, any 785G based system |
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| [05:47:47] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, u still around? |
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| [05:48:02] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [05:48:10] | Jester86: | alright my man i have some ?s for you |
| [05:48:21] | Jester86: | well more of i want ur opinion on how i'm doing something |
| [05:49:11] | Jester86: | currently i'm mounting my myth_data folder which contains all of my recordings and what not and running a LINK from /var/lib/mythtv |
| [05:49:51] | Jester86: | i'm considering just straight mounting each directory to the appropriate /var/lib/mythtv/* folder |
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| [05:50:07] | wagnerrp: | do you have any local content? |
| [05:50:15] | Jester86: | not really |
| [05:50:34] | wagnerrp: | then by all means, mount straight to the directory mythtv expects to find the content |
| [05:50:48] | Jester86: | either way i do it, in the event that any drive fails to mount it will still function.. it'll just need to have the DB cleaned up |
| [05:50:54] | wagnerrp: | understand however that all frontends expect the content to be in the exact same full path |
| [05:51:07] | Jester86: | yeah |
| [05:51:23] | Jester86: | let me explain to you what i'm doing so it doesnt seem so abstract |
| [05:51:55] | Jester86: | currently i have 2 external drives.. 1 is connected via esata and the other is the networked samba drive i was working on earlier in here |
| [05:52:14] | wagnerrp: | networked samba... like its on a NAS box? |
| [05:52:22] | Jester86: | the esata drive ill hold all of my recordings |
| [05:52:31] | Jester86: | its connected via my main PC |
| [05:52:32] | wagnerrp: | or a USB drive plugged into a windows machine? |
| [05:52:33] | wagnerrp: | ah |
| [05:52:39] | Jester86: | my mythbox only has 1 esata port.. |
| [05:52:49] | wagnerrp: | so mount them internally |
| [05:52:58] | Jester86: | mythbox can't |
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| [05:53:14] | Jester86: | it has 1 sata port and its a slim case.. already has an IDE inside |
| [05:53:42] | Jester86: | i may take the IDE out and just have the ESATA in it tho |
| [05:53:48] | wagnerrp: | why buy a slim case if you just have to have a bunch of extra boxes outside holding your hard drives? |
| [05:54:13] | Jester86: | lol well i didnt intend for it to go this way.. i'm in the proof of concept stage lol |
| [05:55:19] | Jester86: | once i'm done testing and what not whats going to happen is that I'll have 1 sata drive in my slim case |
| [05:55:23] | wagnerrp: | seems i've no choice but to buy a scan converter |
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| [05:55:34] | Jester86: | currently my slim case is my masterbackend but it will be the slave backend down the road |
| [05:55:35] | wagnerrp: | at which point i may as well just buy a case with a riser card |
| [05:55:44] | wagnerrp: | and a discrete video card with svideo outputs |
| [05:55:54] | wagnerrp: | ideally, it will be no backend |
| [05:56:08] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, what are you going to do now? |
| [05:56:43] | wagnerrp: | i just said, there is no onboard svideo/composite option for any modern video chipset |
| [05:57:15] | wagnerrp: | so in order to get a small PC, its either a scan converter, or a discrete card with a riser |
| [05:57:26] | wagnerrp: | the latter will be cleaner |
| [05:57:38] | Dagmar: | ...which is almost kind of sad until you remember that NO ONE makes a flat panel display that doesn't at least take VGA or DVI now |
| [05:57:41] | mangus580: | wagnerrp: have you looked at the vga – tv converters? |
| [05:57:55] | wagnerrp: | mangus580: you mean a scan converter? |
| [05:58:04] | mangus580: | not sure, but I think so |
| [05:58:10] | mangus580: | little box that plugs into the vga port |
| [05:58:22] | wagnerrp: | $50-$100 box that takes VGA, and spits out svideo? |
| [05:58:22] | Dagmar: | It's absolultely trivial to get yer hands on a decent LCD TV with DVI and probably HDMI as well |
| [05:58:47] | wagnerrp: | thats the other thing |
| [05:58:59] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, just out of curiosity why in this day and age would u be building something w/ the intent not to have at least vga |
| [05:59:00] | mangus580: | Dagmarm: agreed... but not always in the size 'cheap' |
| [05:59:06] | wagnerrp: | this would be to add mythtv to a little 19" CRT in the bathroom |
| [05:59:12] | Dagmar: | Monitor the sales |
| [05:59:25] | Jester86: | i'm not building anything without the intent of at least dvi/hdmi |
| [05:59:31] | Jester86: | future proofing.. |
| [05:59:36] | Dagmar: | If you're watching TV in the bathroom, I feel for your digestive tract |
| [05:59:38] | wagnerrp: | with a discrete card, its a minimum $200, maybe more |
| [05:59:50] | wagnerrp: | you can grab a monitor that size for <$100 |
| [06:00:07] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, I want to get a touchscreen for in my bathroom ;) |
| [06:00:08] | wagnerrp: | nah, my mom takes baths |
| [06:00:10] | Jester86: | haha |
| [06:00:14] | Dagmar: | I have two 19"s here I'm trying to find a way to get rid of |
| [06:00:30] | Jester86: | i'd get a touchscreen and put it in my shower |
| [06:00:32] | Dagmar: | ...and allow me to suggest that in the case of a bathroom, you MOUNT IT ON THE WALL |
| [06:00:47] | Dagmar: | ...or make sure your mom has you listed as a beneficiary on the life insurance policy. |
| [06:00:57] | Dagmar: | TV + bathtub == bad. |
| [06:00:59] | Jester86: | Dagmar, haha |
| [06:01:00] | Dagmar: | Don't forget that |
| [06:01:03] | wagnerrp: | when we remodeled the bathroom, we put a nice hole up in the corner of the room |
| [06:01:06] | mangus580: | wagnerrp: http://cgi.ebay.com/VGA-to-AV-S-Video-TV-Conv . . . 10%26ps%3D63 |
| [06:01:06] | wagnerrp: | with coax and power |
| [06:01:10] | mangus580: | this is waht I am talking about |
| [06:01:26] | Dagmar: | mangus580: We're actually quite familiar with what they are |
| [06:01:37] | wagnerrp: | a scan converter |
| [06:01:47] | mangus580: | understood Dagmar but this one is alot cheaper than he mentioned :-) |
| [06:01:52] | Dagmar: | I know. |
| [06:01:53] | mangus580: | are they 'feasible'? |
| [06:02:00] | Dagmar: | He's talking about ones with "known, decent" ouptu |
| [06:02:02] | Dagmar: | er output |
| [06:02:13] | Jester86: | f svideo output tho |
| [06:02:14] | Dagmar: | You can get cheap-ass ones with hit-or-miss output quality for thirty bucks. |
| [06:02:19] | wagnerrp: | yeah, im leery of a $10 one off ebay |
| [06:02:20] | Jester86: | i'm sticking to my dvi to hdmi ;) |
| [06:02:32] | mangus580: | Jester86: not everyone has a TV that does hdmi |
| [06:02:40] | mangus580: | nor the $$ to buy one :-) |
| [06:02:52] | Jester86: | so get a slim dvi card that has svideo out |
| [06:03:17] | mangus580: | the board I am using doesnt have a slot |
| [06:03:22] | wagnerrp: | thats what ive been saying |
| [06:03:34] | Jester86: | doesnt have a pci slot even? |
| [06:03:41] | mangus580: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500027 |
| [06:03:45] | Jester86: | u can get slim pci graphix cards |
| [06:04:03] | Jester86: | mangus580, ... i got it |
| [06:04:18] | Jester86: | shit that thing has hdmi out? |
| [06:04:23] | Jester86: | fucckkk yeah |
| [06:04:24] | mangus580: | yup |
| [06:04:33] | mangus580: | its a nice board |
| [06:04:38] | Jester86: | that is a myth'n beast right there |
| [06:04:41] | wagnerrp: | im not certain how i would wire network up to that shelf |
| [06:04:41] | mangus580: | but I am somewhat hosed for what I need |
| [06:05:01] | mangus580: | wagnerrp: pull the network wire through using the coax |
| [06:05:09] | Jester86: | how has mythtv and wifi come along? |
| [06:05:15] | wagnerrp: | dont |
| [06:05:18] | Jester86: | can u wifi a frontend? |
| [06:05:24] | wagnerrp: | you can, you dont want to |
| [06:05:30] | Jester86: | whys htat |
| [06:05:31] | Jester86: | that |
| [06:05:35] | Jester86: | playback choppy? |
| [06:05:35] | wagnerrp: | reliability |
| [06:05:51] | wagnerrp: | network WILL drop out periodically |
| [06:06:05] | Jester86: | even with a new router |
| [06:06:13] | Jester86: | say the dlink gaming router |
| [06:06:17] | wagnerrp: | and depending on your environment, G may not provide sufficient bandwidth for HDTV |
| [06:06:30] | wagnerrp: | it will certainly not provide the bandwidth for HDDVDs or BRs |
| [06:06:46] | Jester86: | well i'd make a playback group specific for wifi so .. |
| [06:06:58] | wagnerrp: | what good would that do? |
| [06:07:05] | Jester86: | have it play back shitty |
| [06:07:10] | Dagmar: | One microwave oven away from a LAN failure |
| [06:07:22] | Jester86: | lol |
| [06:07:26] | wagnerrp: | regardless of how you play the content, youre still sending the same exact data down the pipe |
| [06:07:47] | Jester86: | yeah |
| [06:07:54] | Jester86: | brb i have to piss |
| [06:08:03] | mangus580: | Jester86: I have this board on the way |
| [06:08:15] | Jester86: | i could limit the material being played to only shitty stuff, dont allow any good stuff in that group |
| [06:08:21] | Dagmar: | http://www.xkcd.org/654/ <-- see also |
| [06:08:23] | mangus580: | I am helping a friend setup a mythtv system... and he is using me as his 'beta' tester |
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| [06:09:01] | wagnerrp: | hehe, i showed that to one of the guys at work, and ended up having to explain it to him |
| [06:09:01] | mangus580: | ergo, buying all my stuff for me |
| [06:09:19] | mangus580: | this guy is fully capable of doing it all himself |
| [06:09:29] | mangus580: | just doesnt have the time to iron out kinks |
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| [06:10:34] | wagnerrp: | i was shocked, i consider him the second most computer knowledgeable person up there, in a group of graduate engineers working on a big cluster |
| [06:10:47] | wagnerrp: | and he didnt understand it |
| [06:10:54] | mangus580: | wow |
| [06:11:11] | mangus580: | I played with my Wii-Mote on my minimyth install earlier... |
| [06:11:13] | mangus580: | works awesome |
| [06:11:20] | wagnerrp: | of course one of the other guys managed to get root, and chown the whole /usr directory |
| [06:11:21] | wagnerrp: | so.... |
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| [06:11:52] | wagnerrp: | that was a fun debacle to clean up after |
| [06:12:44] | mangus580: | minimyth is kinda nice... |
| [06:12:53] | mangus580: | makes it easy to boot any machine into myth |
| [06:13:32] | Dagmar: | I guess he doesn't use wireless much |
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| [06:14:06] | wagnerrp: | actually, his home network is mostly wireless |
| [06:14:18] | wagnerrp: | but apparently his HTPC is also his file server |
| [06:14:30] | wagnerrp: | and he doesnt hit it from his desk often |
| [06:15:18] | Jester86: | in mythtv what are banners |
| [06:15:25] | Jester86: | there are all kinds of files in there that never used to be |
| [06:15:42] | Jester86: | i know coverart is movie posters |
| [06:15:50] | wagnerrp: | short, wide images that go with tv series |
| [06:15:57] | Jester86: | whats fanart |
| [06:16:02] | wagnerrp: | see thetvdb.com for an example |
| [06:16:10] | wagnerrp: | fanart are full 1920x1080 images |
| [06:16:21] | wagnerrp: | used for backgrounds on select themes |
| [06:17:24] | mangus580: | do you guys have a favorite IR reciever? |
| [06:18:09] | Jester86: | kool thanks |
| [06:18:12] | wagnerrp: | my MCEUSB2s work well enough |
| [06:18:13] | [R]: | mangus580: homemade serial |
| [06:18:31] | mangus580: | btw... using this case http://www.directron.com/wt02c.html |
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| [06:22:10] | leprasmurf: | hello all. Has anyone used the ATI TV Wonder USB Digital HDTV Tuner with mythtv? |
| [06:22:45] | wagnerrp: | linuxtv.org |
| [06:22:59] | ** wagnerrp stands by for more woot users.... ** | |
| [06:23:16] | leprasmurf: | lmao, wagnerrp has voodoo :-) |
| [06:23:39] | leprasmurf: | I did google for it first though, and looked on the mythtv wiki |
| [06:23:47] | wagnerrp: | for the most part, mythtv does not support tuner cards |
| [06:23:50] | leprasmurf: | just didn't go much further |
| [06:24:01] | wagnerrp: | we just support the V4L, IVTV, and DVB apis |
| [06:24:19] | wagnerrp: | if the card complies with one of those (the DVB one in this case), mythtv can generally use it |
| [06:24:57] | leprasmurf: | sweet |
| [06:24:59] | leprasmurf: | ty |
| [06:26:20] | wagnerrp: | looks like a yes... http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI/AMD_TV_Wonder_HD_600_USB |
| [06:28:44] | wagnerrp: | looks like your question was answered in the woot forum over 20 minutes ago |
| [06:28:46] | mangus580: | have you guys seen a mini-pci tv-out card? |
| [06:29:30] | wagnerrp: | mangus580: yes, usually Rage XLs and similar chips |
| [06:29:47] | wagnerrp: | kind of stuff they embed on server boards |
| [06:30:42] | leprasmurf: | wagnerrp: I must've missed the answer originally, but I was just in the process of rechecking. Thanks again! |
| [06:31:03] | mangus580: | if you happen to have a link or have a good search term... I would love it :-) |
| [06:31:13] | mangus580: | might be a better way to use that board for tv out |
| [06:31:22] | wagnerrp: | 10 seconds of google found one |
| [06:31:25] | wagnerrp: | you dont want to use it |
| [06:31:31] | mangus580: | yeah? |
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| [06:31:35] | wagnerrp: | yeah |
| [06:31:44] | mangus580: | whats wrong with it? |
| [06:31:47] | mangus580: | (what did you search?) |
| [06:32:07] | wagnerrp: | you will not find a variant with hardware decoding |
| [06:32:50] | wagnerrp: | which means one... you will not be able to play 1080i/p video, and you likely will not be able to play 720p video |
| [06:32:51] | mangus580: | ie. no good for clean video playback |
| [06:33:06] | mangus580: | whats standard def? |
| [06:33:09] | mangus580: | is that 720p? |
| [06:33:15] | wagnerrp: | and two, you will not be able to play much HD anyway, because youre relying on that Atom for decoding |
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| [06:33:40] | wagnerrp: | HDTV is 720p or better |
| [06:33:52] | wagnerrp: | SDTV is 480i and 576i |
| [06:33:58] | wagnerrp: | EDTV is anything in between |
| [06:34:06] | wagnerrp: | its a function of bandwidth |
| [06:34:20] | wagnerrp: | since your scaling is done in the video card, using Xv |
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| [06:34:43] | wagnerrp: | youre sending the full, uncompressed video to the video card |
| [06:34:50] | mangus580: | well I would only be using such a card for SDTV |
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| [06:35:15] | mangus580: | are you saying that motherboard cant handle 1080i at all? or just via the mini-pci setup? |
| [06:35:31] | wagnerrp: | you may only be outputting to an SDTV, but you are only going to play SD content? |
| [06:35:44] | wagnerrp: | thats the other thing, that board doesnt even have a mini-pci slot |
| [06:35:54] | mangus580: | then whats the wifi card in? |
| [06:36:47] | wagnerrp: | mini-pcie |
| [06:37:00] | mangus580: | aah.... |
| [06:37:08] | mangus580: | and there prolly ISNT a vid output card for that :-( |
| [06:37:46] | wagnerrp: | capture/tuner, yes... output, not exactly |
| [06:38:03] | wagnerrp: | there are some broadcom decoder cards |
| [06:38:09] | wagnerrp: | but not anything usable in linux/mythtv |
| [06:38:29] | mangus580: | k |
| [06:38:33] | mchou: | bah |
| [06:38:40] | mchou: | no qam |
| [06:38:45] | mchou: | that's lame |
| [06:38:47] | mangus580: | so I will just have to settle for a scan converter then :-( |
| [06:39:16] | mchou: | for $25 it would have been a nice toy |
| [06:40:44] | leprasmurf: | you get what you pay for. 25 does make for a fun toy, at the very least to screw around with. |
| [06:41:31] | mchou: | there are plent of $25 usb tuners that support qam |
| [06:41:39] | mchou: | plenty* |
| [06:47:09] | Jester86: | anyone decent with mounting permissions |
| [06:47:31] | Jester86: | i'm mounting a smb drive and i need help getting the permission / ownership right |
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| [06:48:42] | Dagmar: | Need to know what you're trying to do with the files, first |
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| [06:49:55] | Jester86: | lemme paste my xorg and i'll explain it to ya |
| [06:50:00] | Jester86: | shit |
| [06:50:02] | Jester86: | i mean my fstab |
| [06:50:03] | Jester86: | lol |
| [06:50:34] | Dagmar: | Trust me, that will be a waste of your time |
| [06:50:40] | Dagmar: | You're already doing it wrong imho |
| [06:50:55] | Dagmar: | Humor me. What are you trying to do with the filesystem. |
| [06:50:57] | wagnerrp: | you need to tweek the 'uid', 'gid', 'dir_mode', and 'file_mode' options |
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| [06:51:12] | wagnerrp: | hes got a drive on his windows box that he wants to access for mythvideo |
| [06:51:53] | Dagmar: | Ah, there's a key piece of information. Windows box. |
| [06:51:58] | Dagmar: | We hates them, we do. |
| [06:52:08] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp would be correct. |
| [06:52:09] | Jester86: | its not tech windows box.. |
| [06:52:18] | Jester86: | its a linux box running a samba server for the guys i live w/ |
| [06:52:25] | Dagmar: | I was rather hoping it was a samba server so I could say "use cifs, not smb" |
| [06:52:45] | wagnerrp: | oh? that must have been someone else earlier tonight |
| [06:52:55] | Jester86: | it is a samba server and i am using cifs lol |
| [06:52:58] | wagnerrp: | smack them, and tell them to run NFS |
| [06:53:05] | Dagmar: | Ah okay, then you're halfway home |
| [06:53:13] | Dagmar: | use swat for one thing. |
| [06:53:17] | Dagmar: | It'll make your life easier |
| [06:53:41] | wagnerrp: | you can smack them or swat them, up to you |
| [06:53:45] | Dagmar: | cifs at least gets you the functionality of NTFS |
| [06:54:03] | Dagmar: | ...but SWAT will make your life easier with configuring the Samba end of things. |
| [06:55:26] | Dagmar: | It will be nearly impossible to misconfigure a read-only, guest-accessible share using SWAT |
| [06:56:14] | wagnerrp: | well the same could be said for writing the smb.conf manually |
| [06:56:21] | Jester86: | shit i cant seem to get internet on that box :-\ |
| [06:56:34] | Jester86: | maybe 192.168.1.60 was a bad ip to pick haha |
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| [06:57:13] | Jester86: | eh host is unreachable.. should work |
| [06:57:17] | wagnerrp: | why would that be a bad idea? |
| [06:57:31] | Jester86: | seemed to have some sort of issue w/ it |
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| [06:57:34] | Jester86: | we'll find out here shortly |
| [06:57:36] | wagnerrp: | did you set this statically? or through dhcp? |
| [06:57:42] | Jester86: | stat |
| [06:57:49] | wagnerrp: | did you add a default route? |
| [06:58:02] | Jester86: | ? |
| [06:58:05] | Jester86: | what do u mean |
| [06:58:09] | wagnerrp: | bingo... |
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| [06:58:37] | alyssum_: | i have a large collection of movies and tv series and would like to automatically grab metadata for them and update my mythtv database. i have been trying to use jamu for this but it can't even find my video files, not to mention it's a config nightmare. i've read the docs and the code, still stuck. isn't there an easy solution for this? |
| [06:58:42] | Dagmar: | You don't actually need a default route all the time |
| [06:58:57] | Dagmar: | Long ago, Linux started slapping in a route to the netblock you up an ethernet interface on |
| [06:59:16] | Dagmar: | You'll get a route for your local network whether you like it or not. |
| [06:59:38] | Dagmar: | alyssum_: Great patience and attention to detail |
| [06:59:39] | wagnerrp: | yeah, but it wont know anything about your internet gateway |
| [07:00:18] | Dagmar: | Ah so we'll skip the "why didn't you turn on the squid proxy" talk then |
| [07:00:19] | Dagmar: | :) |
| [07:00:33] | alyssum_: | dagmar: in others word, no there is not an easy way? |
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| [07:01:04] | wagnerrp: | for automated metadata grabbing, JAMU is the only option |
| [07:01:11] | Jester86: | i have it set to use 192.168.1.60 in /etc/network/interfaces but for some reason it still goes and assigns the old ip it had.. 192.168.1.110 |
| [07:01:15] | wagnerrp: | if that is not 'easy', then no |
| [07:02:51] | alyssum_: | wagnerrp: ok. but in the jamu docs it says that you have to have the imdb number for the movie in the mythtv database before it can update. and the only way to do this is manually through the mythtv interface? therefore, there is no such thing as mass *adding* of metadata only mass *updating*.... is this right? |
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| [07:03:27] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression it would do a best effort search for any content you had |
| [07:03:54] | iamlindoro: | read the wiki again |
| [07:04:02] | iamlindoro: | specifically the part about the interactive session |
| [07:04:39] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Jamu#Steps_to_perf . . . _Mass_Update |
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| [07:04:42] | iamlindoro: | Do those, in order |
| [07:05:13] | iamlindoro: | and that's correct, Jamu doesn't add media |
| [07:05:20] | alyssum_: | iamlindoro: yes, i have read it many times — "Jamu depends on video file data base records having either IMDB numbers for movies and TV episodes having series names, season and episode numbers. An interactive session is required to get that information input into the MythTV data base." So therefore...you cannot mass add metadata, right? unless you want to press "next" n times where n == huge number of videos you have. |
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| [07:06:01] | iamlindoro: | You absolutely can mass add metadata-- confirming an item is what it is is hardly a brain-intesive process |
| [07:06:12] | iamlindoro: | unfortunately there isn't a python module to read minds yet |
| [07:06:32] | flexy: | whaaat! |
| [07:06:33] | wagnerrp: | yet |
| [07:06:41] | flexy: | ok, sound better :) |
| [07:06:53] | iamlindoro: | Yes, the interactive session is boring, this is the price of having a nice script do all the hard work for you |
| [07:07:08] | iamlindoro: | where matching what you have from a list != the hard work |
| [07:07:12] | Jester86: | what is a vpn connection? |
| [07:07:30] | flexy: | virtual private network? |
| [07:07:32] | alyssum_: | iamlindoro: yeah, but what i am getting at is whether it confirming *every* single video or just the ones that are ambigious? |
| [07:07:49] | Jester86: | i set my pc to use one ip in the interfaces configuration file however it seems to drop that and go back to the ip address it had been being assigned by my DHCP router before |
| [07:07:49] | iamlindoro: | why don'y tou *try it* and find out? |
| [07:07:53] | iamlindoro: | don't you |
| [07:08:19] | iamlindoro: | because Jamu is the absolute best you're going to do-- as wagnerrp said, it doesn't get any easier |
| [07:08:32] | iamlindoro: | so however hard or easy it is, that's as good as it gets |
| [07:08:39] | alyssum_: | iamlindoro: well i definitely do...but funny thing is the doc never tells me what name format my videos are supposed to be in or what directories are searched. |
| [07:08:54] | iamlindoro: | It doesn't search your directories at all |
| [07:08:58] | iamlindoro: | once again, not a video adder |
| [07:09:05] | iamlindoro: | not a scan utility |
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| [07:09:23] | iamlindoro: | it uses the videos *you* scanned into the mythvideo DB |
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| [07:10:43] | wagnerrp: | ok, i thought it did add new files |
| [07:10:46] | alyssum_: | iamlindoro: ok, that still doesn't make sense because i have a long list of videos in my mythtv. but jamu still says there are no video files (i've already double checked my extensions variable too). |
| [07:11:31] | iamlindoro: | alyssum_, Then you have broken python bindings or a broken config.xml |
| [07:12:20] | alyssum_: | iamlindoro: moreover, i've read the python code and it's clearly searching the filesystem for video files. i was not assuming that it scans my whoel computer for video files, but i assumed (due to lack of documentation) that it would try to search in the current directory and subdirectories (if "recursive" option was True). |
| [07:13:07] | iamlindoro: | It uses the filename and parses it, it DOES NOT ADD FILES |
| [07:13:32] | iamlindoro: | never mind, too much work, best of luck |
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| [07:22:23] | Jester86: | anyone mind explaining this routes thing to me please? |
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| [07:28:04] | wagnerrp: | Jester86: your computer has to be told how to get somewhere |
| [07:28:18] | wagnerrp: | usually that is taken care of by your router and your dhcp client |
| [07:28:28] | Jester86: | hmm |
| [07:28:36] | Jester86: | well i'll tell u what the issue is.. |
| [07:28:43] | wagnerrp: | by setting things statically, that means you have to set up the route through your internet gateway manually as well |
| [07:28:46] | wagnerrp: | man route |
| [07:29:20] | Jester86: | i set the ip to static.. restart networking.. everything is good.. then after i reboot it goes back to DHCP, however the DHCP IP is always the same one so could I be safe just to use that as my IP for my master backend? |
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| [07:31:08] | Jester86: | i went thru the GUI thing and set IPv4 to have a static ip and everything which worked for keeping things static but then i didnt have internet :-\ |
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| [07:32:44] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, any clues? |
| [07:32:45] | alyssum_: | for the record, jamu must have an argument of a filename or directory. even though it's not in the README or on the wiki, or anywhere else in the docs. |
| [07:33:10] | wagnerrp: | i have no idea what your 'GUI thing' is, as i do not use your distro |
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| [07:34:10] | alyssum_: | Jester86, if the your dynamically assigned ip is always then same. then sure, use it for your backend. |
| [07:34:31] | wagnerrp: | you shouldnt just expect that to remain the case |
| [07:34:43] | Jester86: | wagnerrp, what do u know about the resolv.conf file.. i'm reading that i need to remove my old DNS server assigned by DHCP server |
| [07:35:01] | wagnerrp: | do you intend not to use the same DNS server? |
| [07:35:05] | alyssum_: | wagnerrp: sounds like his router is assigning the ip based on the mac address. in which case, it will always be the same. |
| [07:35:20] | wagnerrp: | alyssum_: only until the next time he reboots |
| [07:35:29] | wagnerrp: | or has the machine offline for more than one lease cycle |
| [07:35:43] | wagnerrp: | (reboots the router, that is) |
| [07:36:17] | Jester86: | alyssum_, the thing is.. i go thru /etc/network/interfaces and set it for static IP which works.. i reset networking.. everything is fine |
| [07:36:28] | Jester86: | then i reboot the pc and it goes back to DHCP |
| [07:36:59] | Jester86: | i went thru the network manager gui tool and changed it to static there and it stuck, the only problem is that I could not connect to the internet at that point.. |
| [07:37:19] | alyssum_: | Jester86: are you using NetworkManager (desktop network manager) like you get with a base ubuntu distro? |
| [07:37:45] | alyssum_: | Jester86: ok you are. so next, are you using a router on your network? |
| [07:37:59] | Jester86: | yes i am |
| [07:38:23] | Jester86: | the router does not allow anything dynamic |
| [07:38:45] | alyssum_: | Jester86: then go to your router, and under the DHCP section, look for a section where you can assign IP based on the MAC address |
| [07:38:48] | Jester86: | i'm essentially stuck with DHCP on the router end |
| [07:39:02] | alyssum_: | Jester86: what's your router model? |
| [07:39:12] | Jester86: | i cant alyssum_ its completely bare bones controls |
| [07:39:29] | Jester86: | linksys wrt546s |
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| [07:39:56] | Jester86: | wrt54gs* |
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| [07:41:49] | Gamefreak264: | Hey, I'm completely new to Myth TV(but not Linux) and am looking for some helpful documentation to get me started, it would be fantistico if someone here could direct me to some. |
| [07:42:30] | Dagmar: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki and http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
| [07:42:31] | wagnerrp: | theres the official documentation at mythtv.org |
| [07:42:39] | wagnerrp: | theres the additional install guide on the wiki |
| [07:42:51] | alyssum_: | Jester86: it's shouldn't be that barebones....look at http://www.daycomsolutions.com/Support/Linksy . . . ssSetup0.jpg |
| [07:42:52] | Jester86: | i hear google has a lot too |
| [07:42:58] | wagnerrp: | and there are going to be several mythtv howtos floating around the internet for each major distro |
| [07:43:33] | Jester86: | alyssum_, theres no way to assign via mac |
| [07:43:46] | Jester86: | i'm looking at my web interface aws |
| [07:44:01] | wagnerrp: | not through the basic firmware, no |
| [07:44:23] | Jester86: | yeah i was just looking at firmware upgrades too |
| [07:44:26] | alyssum_: | Jester86: ok, i'll believe you on that. but anyways, what is your subnet, where is your starting ip address for dhcp, and what static ip did you try to assign to your computer? |
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| [07:44:41] | wagnerrp: | and not through the webui on ddwrt either |
| [07:45:06] | wagnerrp: | i dont know about the other ones, but at least with a hacked firmware, you can go in and edit dnsmasq directly to set mac/ip assignments |
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| [07:45:43] | Jester86: | DHCP range is 192.168.1.100-.150 my static i'm attempting to assign is *.60 |
| [07:49:34] | alyssum_: | Jester86: that's is the right idea. you don't want a static in the dhcp range. so why you lose internet.... did you check that your dns setting is set to the router ip under the GUI network manager? |
| [07:52:42] | Gamefreak264: | There is currently no natively stream netflix movies from Linux, is there? |
| [07:53:03] | Gamefreak264: | *way to natively |
| [07:53:14] | wagnerrp: | not really |
| [07:53:57] | Gamefreak264: | Bleh, I don't really find streaming from Windows to Linux to be very appealing |
| [07:53:58] | Gamefreak264: | thanks |
| [07:54:30] | wagnerrp: | netflix will play in a webbroswer wont it? using flash? |
| [07:55:08] | Gamefreak264: | No, it uses silverlight |
| [07:55:24] | Gamefreak264: | it used to use flash but for somereason they felt the need to convert to silverlight and block out Linux users |
| [07:55:37] | wagnerrp: | moonlight wont work? |
| [07:55:58] | Gamefreak264: | Apparently Moonlight isn't advanced enough to do Netflix, either that or they just blocked Linux users |
| [07:56:22] | Gamefreak264: | and user agent switching on web browsers doesn't help, so I don't think they blocked linux users |
| [07:56:43] | wagnerrp: | its possible theres something going on like with flash |
| [07:57:11] | wagnerrp: | in that you could do everything but RTMPe |
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| [07:59:51] | alyssum_: | wagnerrp: netflix uses a higher version of silverlight than monolight now supports. and there is a OS check done by Netflix which will notify the user that Linux is unsupported (but this can be worked around). |
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| [08:07:05] | Gamefreak264: | I don't fully understand how the DVR functions of MythTV works, could someone explain it to me or link me to a wiki entry on the subject? I can't find one. |
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| [08:09:44] | Gamefreak264: | I currently have a Dish Network subscription and I'm wondering if I will be able to access it as normal or if my controls will be restricted/enhanced, for instance, will I be able to access the interactive television guide? |
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| [08:10:17] | Gamefreak264: | Sorry for all the questions, I'm still reletively new. I'm only asking what I can't find on the Wiki. |
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| [09:42:53] | sid3windr: | gaaah |
| [09:43:26] | sid3windr: | motherfrakkin ubuntu f*ckh*les made gnome sound not work without pulseaudio |
| [09:44:00] | Gamefreak264: | >:0 |
| [09:44:08] | Gamefreak264: | Pottymouth! |
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| [09:52:55] | Jester86: | anyone have any clue as to why my pc doesnt seem to realize i have movies on my harddrive.. it is a samba mounted hdd however music and pictures are coming in just fine.. |
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| [09:54:31] | justinh: | because you've not yet scanned the directory for changes in mythvideo? |
| [09:54:56] | justinh: | sigh. here we go again. rescanning & all the fun that entails :-\ |
| [09:55:27] | luke: | when mythtv starts to record something i scheduled it locks me to that one channel? if i look at status it says one tuner is recording and one is idle... should i be able to watch other channels while it is recording? |
| [09:55:43] | Jester86: | haha |
| [09:56:16] | Jester86: | justinh, in the past when u entered settings> video manager it scanned .. is there something more i have to do? |
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| [09:56:48] | justinh: | which version are you using? |
| [09:56:54] | Jester86: | 9.10 |
| [09:57:31] | Jester86: | the only thing i can think is that maybe it doesnt like that its owned by root |
| [09:57:37] | Jester86: | but music and pictures and working fine |
| [09:57:48] | Jester86: | its rw across the board also |
| [09:58:08] | luke: | how do i watch another channel while recording? |
| [09:58:09] | justinh: | luke: depends. if you have a digital tuner capable of receiving more than one channel you can record more than one channel, but only if they're on the same transponder or multiplex |
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| [09:58:35] | luke: | justinh, if i paste the model can you tell for me? |
| [09:58:48] | Jester86: | luke what model? |
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| [09:59:41] | justinh: | luke: well, is it a *digital* tuner? like dvb-s, dvb-c, dvb-t or ATSC? |
| [09:59:48] | luke: | hauppauge HVR-2200 |
| [10:00:05] | justinh: | and you don't know if you're using digital tv or not. great |
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| [10:00:25] | justinh: | those tuners can do analogue *or* digital |
| [10:00:43] | luke: | i never said if i was using digital or not |
| [10:00:54] | luke: | i just posted the model |
| [10:01:16] | justinh: | you can only record more than one channel from a single tuner if you use *digital* services |
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| [10:01:52] | justinh: | if analogue, you're limited to only being able to record *one* thing at a time per tuner |
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| [10:02:43] | luke: | no worries, i will rescan all my channels and make sure to not accept anything analogue into the list |
| [10:03:21] | justinh: | it also depends on a transponder or multiplex containing more than one channel you could use |
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| [10:03:57] | justinh: | where in the world are you anyway? |
| [10:04:01] | luke: | ok, ill watch back to the future a couple more times to get familiar with those terms |
| [10:04:06] | quicksilver: | "Digital UK has announced that Tess Daly will host a live show tonight in the North West..." I bet justinh was delighted by that :) |
| [10:04:08] | luke: | australia |
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| [10:04:27] | justinh: | luke: so, you have dvb-t, and some transponders (multiplexes) contain more than one channel |
| [10:04:49] | justinh: | quicksilver: Meh |
| [10:05:18] | justinh: | who the hell is Tess Daly? |
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| [10:06:48] | quicksilver: | justinh: the kind of woman who presents celebrity dancing programs, I believe. And shuts off analogue TV networks, apparently. |
| [10:07:12] | justinh: | nope, still blank |
| [10:07:32] | justinh: | RIP BBC2 in the North West |
| [10:07:57] | quicksilver: | http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitaltv/news/a1 . . . tchover.html |
| [10:08:15] | justinh: | bugger. whole lot of shakeup gone on. just did a scan scan & found there's at least one mux on 8k now |
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| [10:10:56] | justinh: | bah why does mysqldump put a whole table on one line? |
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| [10:12:44] | justinh: | I gonna get me some regex! |
| [10:12:51] | laga: | yay! |
| [10:12:55] | laga: | morning justinh :) |
| [10:13:05] | justinh: | morning laga |
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| [10:13:28] | justinh: | I wasn't burned alive last night for my 'wheel' comment on the ML.. at least not in real life :) |
| [10:14:44] | justinh: | hmm \n should be newline |
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| [10:16:39] | justinh: | gawd am I gonna have to use vim? |
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| [10:20:15] | laga: | vimis awesome |
| [10:20:38] | justinh: | I used to have to use vi literally every day in my job. I was quite good |
| [10:21:05] | justinh: | now I remember how to delete n lines, n characters & save the file. on a good day |
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| [10:21:59] | laga: | more than i can do |
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| [10:22:09] | ** laga is a graphical IDE whore by night ** | |
| [10:22:20] | justinh: | crap. I used %s/(/\n/ but it's not broke the line |
| [10:22:44] | laga: | maybe youneed to escape the ( |
| [10:23:21] | justinh: | no, it replaced those fine |
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| [10:23:36] | justinh: | but it's put ^@ in where I want the line breaks |
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| [10:29:35] | justinh: | heh. %s/)\,/ |
| [10:30:00] | justinh: | erm.. %s/)/\CTRL+V CTRL+M/g did the trick :D |
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| [10:37:58] | justinh: | bah I dunno what to do here for the best |
| [10:38:21] | justinh: | deleting all channels & rescanning is gonna muck up all kinds of stuff |
| [10:38:37] | justinh: | let's try it the proper way first |
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| [10:40:28] | Jester86: | hey justinh u still here? |
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| [10:41:05] | justinh: | yeah |
| [10:41:44] | Jester86: | when i mount my esata hdd how can i mount it so its owned by my user? |
| [10:42:29] | Jester86: | i think thats what the issue is |
| [10:42:43] | Jester86: | see i have this esata drive mounted on my main desktop where i share it via samba |
| [10:43:03] | Thomas-: | check the mountoptions for smbmount |
| [10:43:09] | Jester86: | i then have the shared samba directory mounted on my mythtv box |
| [10:43:24] | justinh: | winners don't use samba :) |
| [10:43:31] | justinh: | friends don't let friends use samba :) |
| [10:43:34] | Jester86: | i have to use it .. :( |
| [10:43:45] | Jester86: | i have 3 roommates who run windows pcs |
| [10:43:51] | justinh: | so kill them |
| [10:43:54] | Jester86: | haha |
| [10:43:56] | Jester86: | if only... |
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| [10:44:28] | justinh: | then say somebody on IRC told you to do it. It's ok, I'll take the rap |
| [10:44:37] | Jester86: | at any rate, myth wont see the videos on the hdd |
| [10:44:44] | Jester86: | it sees the music and pics but not the movies |
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| [10:45:25] | justinh: | are they all in the same directory? |
| [10:45:41] | justinh: | e.g. /movies are in the same dir as /pictures and /music or whatever |
| [10:45:41] | Jester86: | same "parent" directory you could say |
| [10:45:53] | Jester86: | no they're all broken down |
| [10:46:06] | justinh: | can you see the files outside of mythtv ? |
| [10:46:12] | justinh: | and *access* them? |
| [10:46:25] | Jester86: | i have links in the /var/lib/mythtv directory that point to the /media/shared/* they associate with |
| [10:46:33] | Jester86: | yup |
| [10:46:46] | Jester86: | they're chmod'd 777 |
| [10:46:54] | Jester86: | cant chown tho .. :-\ |
| [10:47:13] | justinh: | dunno |
| [10:47:40] | Jester86: | i think my problem has to do with the fact that I'm not the owner |
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| [10:48:27] | Jester86: | that or maybe.. b/c the fs is NTFS however.. it still see's the music and pictures !!! |
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| [10:48:58] | justinh: | damn, got all the channels but it's not updated the multplexes |
| [10:49:12] | justinh: | FFS Freeview keep still for *five* fricking minutes |
| [10:49:34] | justinh: | hopefully there'll just be one more rescan in december & that'll be it for a long time |
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| [10:50:39] | justinh: | hrm gonna try another existing mux scan cos it added the new mux |
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| [10:54:14] | mzb: | that took a while |
| [10:58:53] | justinh: | damnit! just gonna have to delete all channels, then rescan, then redo my xmltv & icons, then fix the schedules :-\ |
| [11:00:03] | Dibblah: | Bug in the new scanner? |
| [11:00:40] | justinh: | this is the old scanner |
| [11:01:01] | justinh: | still running the new machine alongside for a while |
| [11:01:51] | justinh: | cleaning the dimm really seems to have done the trick on the current backend though |
| [11:02:03] | justinh: | it was really pretty badly discoloured |
| [11:04:59] | laga: | discoloured memory? ouch |
| [11:05:18] | Dibblah: | Can happen with stupid manufacturers. |
| [11:05:31] | Dibblah: | They don't understand sacrificial protection. |
| [11:05:39] | laga: | the PCB or the chips? |
| [11:05:44] | justinh: | the contacts |
| [11:05:48] | laga: | ah |
| [11:06:09] | justinh: | they weren't green or anything, just not as shiny as they were when new |
| [11:07:01] | justinh: | here we go then. full rescan :( |
| [11:07:43] | justinh: | I dumped the old channel table though – I guess I could manually mangle the table back so the chanids remain the same as they were |
| [11:07:59] | justinh: | save me any scheduling snafus |
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| [11:53:07] | justinh: | say one thing about this rescan deal though – the main BBC mux went off air & mythbackend just carried on regardless |
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| [12:08:11] | justinh: | argghh brain worm! seeing the channel name 'VIVA' made me think of Mini Viva – "Left my heart in Tokyo" |
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| [12:23:55] | Elwell: | ok – EIT data has loadsa gaps (looking on my STB it appears its just not broadcast for a pile of my channels) — There's no one xmltv feed that covers all the channels I get, can I do a mix n match? |
| [12:24:23] | justinh: | only with 2 video sources |
| [12:24:33] | justinh: | i.e. one for EIT, the other for xmltv |
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| [13:02:19] | justinh: | right! I think that's all the channels done now |
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| [13:10:03] | justinh: | update channel set visible=0 where name="TMTV" or name="MOBILIZER" or name like "%casino%" or name like "%asian%" or name="QVC" or name="ESPN" or name like "%dating%" or name like "%holiday%" or name like "%lottery%" or name like "%rabbit%" or name="PARTYLAND" or name like "%topup%" or name like "%create%" or name like "%rocks%co%" or name like "%price%drop%" or name like "%text%" or name like "%smile%" or name like "%babest |
| [13:10:10] | justinh: | oops |
| [13:16:59] | justinh: | hrm. is channel 33 ITV1+1 or ITV2+1 ? |
| [13:17:18] | justinh: | the name scan found is just "ITV" |
| [13:18:28] | Dibblah: | They still haven't fixed that? |
| [13:18:56] | Dibblah: | http://www.stevelarkins.freeuk.com/Freeview_tv_channels.htm |
| [13:20:01] | justinh: | ah but I read somewhere that ITV2+1 is changing to ITV1+1 |
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| [13:20:15] | justinh: | one way to find out I guess. see what's actually on it :) |
| [13:20:28] | Dibblah: | ... Watch it and find out? ;) |
| [13:21:51] | justinh: | bah. no video |
| [13:22:31] | Dibblah: | http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/terrestrial/epg/ |
| [13:22:38] | Dibblah: | Is _usually_ up to date. |
| [13:23:30] | justinh: | it's a region dependent thing, this though |
| [13:24:16] | ** justinh fires up mythfrontend & selects the 'test those frickin tuners' menu option ** | |
| [13:24:46] | justinh: | ooo. TV Error: LiveTV not successfully started |
| [13:25:09] | justinh: | ahh. I was tzapping |
| [13:27:04] | justinh: | no DOG on there so must be an ad break |
| [13:28:14] | justinh: | haha there's a new munkeh advert |
| [13:29:36] | justinh: | gawd that safestyle windows guy could be in the BNP with eyes that scary |
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| [13:30:53] | justinh: | anyway just having a thought.. why do we still need xmltv config files? myth could supply the grabber with the xmltvids |
| [13:35:27] | justinh: | ah it's still ITV2+1. must be changing when they switch off analogue |
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| [13:40:19] | justinh: | rofl. ORDER BY channum makes 70 appear before 8 |
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| [13:41:20] | justinh: | presumably because channum isn't an INT |
| [13:41:54] | justinh: | needed ORDER BY ABS(channum) |
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| [14:17:55] | fuxxy: | Can anyone pastebin me the current mythfrontend wrapper script? |
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| [14:22:05] | tank-man: | unimaginative, what is that? |
| [14:22:10] | tank-man: | never heard of it |
| [14:24:58] | justinh: | mythbuntu, ubuntu wrap mythfrontend & mythtv-setup in scripts |
| [14:25:12] | Elwell: | 2 ticks while I boot a VM |
| [14:26:14] | Elwell: | unimaginative: erk, scrub that – 'no bootable medium found' |
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| [14:26:50] | justinh: | Derek Accorah. I'd boot the life out of him |
| [14:27:05] | justinh: | (he's a medium, and he's eminently bootable) |
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| [14:34:16] | Elwell: | unimaginative: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1656724 |
| [14:34:16] | unimaginative: | justinh: It's the easiest way I've found to specify runtime options from this startup menu that ubuntu uses. |
| [14:34:21] | unimaginative: | Elwell: thanks |
| [14:34:39] | unimaginative: | justinh: What about Sylvia Brown? |
| [14:34:51] | unimaginative: | She's definately bootable. With a steel toe even. |
| [14:36:05] | unimaginative: | "If Psychics are real, why do they need to ask you your name?" |
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| [14:52:56] | CyberKnet: | Day two of being laid off. |
| [14:53:02] | CyberKnet: | Still not fun. |
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| [14:53:54] | justinh: | being, or have been? |
| [14:54:48] | CyberKnet: | have been |
| [14:54:50] | CyberKnet: | monday |
| [14:54:54] | justinh: | ouch |
| [14:54:57] | CyberKnet: | indeed. |
| [14:55:18] | CyberKnet: | applied for unemployment yesterday. that was a little demoralizing. |
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| [14:55:48] | CyberKnet: | If nothing else, I'll be able to contribute some to my favorite open source CMS a bit. |
| [14:55:58] | CyberKnet: | but definitely this is not a case of |
| [14:56:09] | CyberKnet: | "Oh, it doesn't matter if I don't get another job right away." |
| [14:56:11] | CyberKnet: | It does matter. |
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| [14:57:22] | justinh: | the job market isn't all that bad in some places right now. everybody they laid off here has found work |
| [14:57:28] | justinh: | mostly better paid too |
| [14:57:43] | CyberKnet: | here = ? |
| [14:57:50] | justinh: | UK |
| [14:58:14] | justinh: | it's painted as a totally grim picture on all the news but if it was that bad... |
| [14:58:24] | CyberKnet: | aaah. it's a bit far for me ;) |
| [14:59:20] | CyberKnet: | And I don't think my Australian citizenship allows me to work there without all sorts of visas :D |
| [15:00:09] | justinh: | heh |
| [15:00:18] | justinh: | what do you do? |
| [15:00:25] | jstgtpaid: | anyone here using dish network with their Mythtv setup? |
| [15:03:03] | squidly: | jstgtpaid: there are a couple of people who us dish. what is not working for ya? |
| [15:03:20] | squidly: | also the wiki has some good examples of how to setup directtv with myth |
| [15:03:27] | CyberKnet: | justinh: programmer |
| [15:03:39] | squidly: | justinh: I got laied off 2 months ago |
| [15:03:54] | squidly: | found a job in one month. and found an even better jobs a few days ago |
| [15:04:03] | jstgtpaid: | I am just curious about people's experience w/it... I have ordered a backend, pvr 1212, and a front end and just wanted to hear others experience... |
| [15:04:11] | Elwell: | running frontend over an SSH tunnel (I know, but I'm trying to debug from work) – what do I need to forward, 6543,6544 (what about 3306?) |
| [15:04:40] | squidly: | Elwell: you should not have to forward anything as long as your X display is set to your desktop |
| [15:05:05] | squidly: | the frontend will run off your remote box, and display on your work computer |
| [15:05:22] | Elwell: | squidly: not if I'm connecting to the backend it won't :-( |
| [15:05:45] | Elwell: | no frontend on it — tis just a headless backend |
| [15:05:47] | squidly: | Elwell: ok well run the frontend off your backend ;) |
| [15:06:00] | squidly: | :P you need the mythtv ports and the mysql ports |
| [15:06:13] | squidly: | the frontend does a direct sql connection |
| [15:06:19] | Elwell: | ok |
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| [15:12:20] | jstgtpaid: | I do have a generic mythtv question... the pvr 1212 appears to capture output from the receiver then xfers it via usb to pc. Is it possible to continue to use the dish dvr to record two channels, then schedule a playback of the stuff to myth later? |
| [15:12:58] | squidly: | jstgtpaid: i have no idea. it would be possible but a pain in the butt imho |
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| [15:13:39] | justinh: | eew |
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| [15:13:57] | jstgtpaid: | I am assuming I would need to use the IR blaster to tell the dish box what to do in that case? Is that the hard part? |
| [15:14:07] | justinh: | you could, but it's not very 'myth-ic' |
| [15:15:03] | wagnerrp: | myth could use the irblaster to record the show in progress |
| [15:15:25] | wagnerrp: | but you would have to set a manual recording, and start playback on your own for the on recorded by the DVR |
| [15:15:30] | wagnerrp: | nothing you could do automated |
| [15:17:10] | jstgtpaid: | hmmm... Yeah, I have never used myth before, so I just trying to figure out how I would not lose the dual tuner capability I currently enjoy... That 'hack' seemed like it would be relatively simple, though might need to be programmed as a plugin or something? |
| [15:17:49] | wagnerrp: | it would require being able to navigate your DVR's on screen menu, and understand what it reads |
| [15:18:00] | wagnerrp: | NOT a simple task by any sense of the word |
| [15:18:18] | justinh: | hmm Sky Three no worky |
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| [15:18:37] | jstgtpaid: | ahh, yes... Since I am not getting feedback from the dvr... I see... |
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| [15:18:54] | wagnerrp: | basically, myth can automatically use dumb STBs |
| [15:19:02] | wagnerrp: | anything else, youre stuck doing manual control |
| [15:20:59] | jstgtpaid: | so when I set something up to record in myth, it waits until that time, then uses the IR to change the channel to that program? In the case of the pvr 1212 the output is then retrieved from the composite cables? |
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| [15:25:35] | jstgtpaid: | if I wanted HD content, is there a service cable, fios, etc, that is considered the most friendly to a myth setup? IE, would it be better to switch to FIOS if I wanted to use myth and get HD content? |
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| [15:27:32] | tank-man: | most likely, none of them are friendly to 3rd party HD PVRs |
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| [15:31:43] | mag0o: | grr, i love the fact that i specifically set the 'idle standby' to disabled on my dish receiver but it still goes into soft power off |
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| [16:01:05] | justinh: | oh ffs, am I gonna have to scan again or what? |
| [16:01:17] | justinh: | some channels have moved |
| [16:05:30] | justinh: | damnit 0.21's scanner is broken with the new regime |
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| [16:06:46] | justinh: | it's put Sky three & others from 754166670 at 786166670 |
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| [16:07:59] | justinh: | 13 muxes in dtv_multiplex? pfft |
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| [16:20:24] | justinh: | hmm clearing out dtv_multiplex & doing a total rescan seems to have done the trick at last |
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| [16:27:15] | squidly: | justinh: good to hear that ;D |
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| [16:30:33] | justinh: | gawd only knows what it' |
| [16:30:40] | justinh: | it's done to my schedules though |
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| [16:40:53] | unimaginative: | Do we think the issue with the mythfrontend <defunct> processes is related to the general slowdowns in the EPG during livetv? |
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| [16:42:33] | wagnerrp: | defunct processes are processes that have crashed, but something else still has a open hook into |
| [16:42:44] | wagnerrp: | or there are files left hanging |
| [16:42:52] | wagnerrp: | something that needs to be cleaned up |
| [16:43:43] | justinh: | fire cleanses all |
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| [16:45:19] | devinheitmueller: | wagnerrp: the process didn't necessarily crash. You will have a defunct process if the parent hasn't yet called waitpid(). |
| [16:46:11] | wagnerrp: | either way, its something outside of the defunct process |
| [16:46:47] | justinh: | hometime I think |
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| [17:11:45] | iamlindoro: | So "V" ranked #2 for the night and #1 in viewers 18–49... maybe I'll actually be watching a show that stays on the air for once |
| [17:12:55] | devinheitmueller: | iamlindoro: I would wait and see how it ranks on night #2 before coming to that conclusion. |
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| [17:13:34] | jams: | iamlindoro- you may be interested in this..or not http://jmeyer.us/settings_discussion.html |
| [17:14:23] | iamlindoro: | jams: The Yea/Nay is of limited value IMHO-- people are almost always going to speak up only when they disagree |
| [17:15:01] | iamlindoro: | also not so sure about your interpretation of what a "nay" is ;) |
| [17:15:06] | jams: | yes, but I needed something to count the results |
| [17:15:13] | jams: | nay = they disagree with you |
| [17:15:19] | iamlindoro: | I disagree |
| [17:15:38] | iamlindoro: | I would not interpret 6 of the results to the commercial break limitation as "nays" |
| [17:16:04] | iamlindoro: | anyway, good thing this isn't a vote :) |
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| [17:16:48] | jams: | well they disagree with removing the setting as defined |
| [17:17:22] | iamlindoro: | again, I disagree |
| [17:17:29] | iamlindoro: | they suggest a different default |
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| [17:17:36] | iamlindoro: | That's not a nay |
| [17:18:36] | iamlindoro: | I appreciate the effort, just saying I might interpret it differently |
| [17:19:00] | jams: | so much discussion figured something needed to be done to sort it out |
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| [17:19:33] | iamlindoro: | yup, I think the speardsheet/collation of opinions is a good thing |
| [17:19:56] | iamlindoro: | I just happen to think that yay/nay is inaccurate/not as helpful as it could be |
| [17:20:21] | janneg: | jams: I wouldn't interpret the different resolutions for "hide mouse cursor" as nay |
| [17:20:26] | iamlindoro: | since for every "nay" there are very likely 10 unvoiced "yays" and 100 "whatever"s |
| [17:20:27] | devinheitmueller: | iamlindoro: what we need is a theming system for the configuration pages themselves, so people can customize what options are available in the configuation UI based on their personal tastes. |
| [17:20:34] | devinheitmueller: | ;-) |
| [17:20:58] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [17:23:40] | jams: | hehe thats the problem with this some people don't outright say yes/no. so it's up for differnt interpretation. |
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| [17:24:02] | jams: | so you want the spreadsheet or I will just dump it |
| [17:24:24] | iamlindoro: | suggesting an alternate default is a "Yea" with an asterisk IMHO |
| [17:24:37] | iamlindoro: | I say keep it, just lose the vote, because it's not one |
| [17:25:08] | iamlindoro: | it's definitely good to centralize the opinions, though |
| [17:27:37] | wagnerrp: | ugh... myth's transcode doesnt work, avidemux ends up with bad a/v sync |
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| [17:28:00] | wagnerrp: | any other suggestions for clipping a recording? |
| [17:28:06] | jams: | Never intended those to be a vote. Just a place to record opinions that didn't express anything note worthy |
| [17:28:18] | brad2: | afternoon guys |
| [17:28:49] | iamlindoro: | jams: But the trouble with that is we already have a disagreement about who is voting yea or nay-- so if I took that at face value and didn't go check it against the thread, then I would get a false idea about what people actually said |
| [17:29:14] | iamlindoro: | jams: In several of those cases people WANT the setting removed, but prefer a different default-- but it's recorded as a nay |
| [17:33:25] | wagnerrp: | how many times has Richard Morton been told not to top-post? |
| [17:33:57] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: $NumPosts = $NumTimesTold |
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| [17:49:21] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: When/if you get a chance, check out #7501, I've also seen that one in action when you overwhelm RemoteFile::Write with even a moderate number of files |
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| [18:03:07] | dustybin: | horizon last night was excellent http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00nslc4 . . . _Black_Hole/ |
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| [18:05:57] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, I loaded it up on my screen, looked at the code a little, made a note, and will take a look sometime. :) |
| [18:06:07] | ** devinheitmueller doesn't understand how someone can claim to be "willing to do all the heavy lifting myself" while simultaneously asking someone else to write them a patch. ** | |
| [18:06:12] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: cool, thanks |
| [18:06:27] | stevieman: | Is there a way in Myth .21 to assign graphics to the folders in mythvideo |
| [18:07:11] | stevieman: | ah I think I just found the answer |
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| [18:08:02] | stevieman: | handy thing that myth wiki :) Now I just need to pay attention when I'm reading it |
| [18:08:03] | iamlindoro: | devinheitmueller: heh, yeah, does not compute |
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| [18:08:24] | devinheitmueller: | iamlindoro: I wonder what part *he* thinks is the heavy lifting if it's not writing the patch. |
| [18:08:51] | iamlindoro: | devinheitmueller: probably the same part that thinks using the software and participating in the lists is "giving four years to this project" |
| [18:09:00] | devinheitmueller: | indeed. |
| [18:09:07] | justinh: | gah, the rescan has screwed up the schedules |
| [18:09:11] | justinh: | man, rescanning sucks |
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| [18:21:01] | dustybin: | is mythtv .22 RC good enough to use in the UK with regards to EIT, etc ? |
| [18:22:16] | iamlindoro: | That is not a real question |
| [18:22:25] | iamlindoro: | which is why you didn't get an answer the last time you asked either |
| [18:22:41] | iamlindoro: | it's non-specific, who knows what "good enough" is? |
| [18:22:49] | dustybin: | erm. |
| [18:23:37] | dustybin: | i dont see any EIT problems in the tickets list so maybe its ok :D |
| [18:24:19] | dustybin: | oh #5949 |
| [18:25:06] | ** dustybin quickly writes a patch ** | |
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| [18:25:18] | iamlindoro: | you couldn't patch your socks |
| [18:25:44] | jduggan: | his quilt, he couldnt patch a quilt! |
| [18:25:54] | jduggan: | or, his eye! |
| [18:26:23] | ** dustybin blows the dust off his copy of C++ and fires it up ** | |
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| [18:29:33] | xand: | everything belonging to dustybin is dusty? |
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| [18:58:46] | _ben: | problems with EIT in the UK? |
| [18:58:48] | ** _ben blinks ** | |
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| [19:02:33] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: While I agree with you about the commskip behavior, I think it would be friendlier to have the in-player setting persist |
| [19:02:51] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: just as I think it should with captions, which is how any normal TV would behave |
| [19:03:50] | iamlindoro: | ie, rip out the settings screen setting, and set it in-player only |
| [19:04:21] | justinh: | if $user like "%dustybin%" (messupEIT); |
| [19:04:56] | dustybin: | justinh: ive had really bad problems with EIT recently, my backend kept on crashing, ive switched to xmltv |
| [19:05:21] | justinh: | yeah there's a problem with checking the payload or something IIRC |
| [19:05:30] | dustybin: | oh |
| [19:06:49] | justinh: | btw good luck when you have to rescan |
| [19:07:29] | _ben: | i didn't have any problems with EIT |
| [19:07:43] | _ben: | had to switch to xmltv as EIT prevented mythshutdown from functioning |
| [19:08:03] | dustybin: | i run mythtv-setup with a special option: taskset -c 0 mythtv-setup and that stops the channel scan from crashing, what is taskset? |
| [19:08:44] | justinh: | man taskset |
| [19:09:10] | dustybin: | dam, i was hoping to pick your brains :D |
| [19:09:39] | justinh: | it'd be like a luddite trying to read the Dead Sea scrolls |
| [19:09:57] | dustybin: | LOL |
| [19:11:28] | laga: | lol |
| [19:12:04] | justinh: | anyhoo, I still use EIT for radio listings data & some 'junk' channels |
| [19:12:21] | justinh: | plus it's the only way to find out what's on the beeb's interactive feeds :) |
| [19:12:51] | justinh: | handy for stuff like Electric Proms |
| [19:13:24] | dustybin: | and your backend is rock solid? |
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| [19:14:28] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, yeah, I'm fine with the settings screen option going away and having the in-player setting persist, I just think the default should be Off until the user turns it On. |
| [19:14:37] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: I agree |
| [19:14:56] | Captain_Murdoch: | I totally agree on the getting rid of 2 different places to change the same setting. |
| [19:14:57] | iamlindoro: | when it comes to those behaviors I think we should strive to be "TV-Like" |
| [19:15:38] | justinh: | dustybin: pretty solid, but backed up with monit lately |
| [19:17:05] | dustybin: | i also use monit, but then i noticed my backend was being restarted 3 / 4 times a day, the problem went away when i stopped using EIT. |
| [19:17:37] | justinh: | damnit. got 2 channel 71s |
| [19:18:29] | iamlindoro: | justinh: It's the neat new multirec derived feature, multichan |
| [19:18:48] | dustybin: | justinh: if you use a mixture of xmltv and EIT, do you need to setup a source id for each? |
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| [19:19:08] | justinh: | dustybin: course |
| [19:19:16] | iamlindoro: | justinh: It'll allow setting obsessed users to watch two copies of the same exact thing because MWAAHHHHH MY SETTINGGGGSSSS |
| [19:19:45] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: The end effect of LoadInBackground is really nice, played with it last night, would like to have MV do the same |
| [19:20:27] | justinh: | wtf? 80200000 isn't even in a real scan |
| [19:20:29] | justinh: | ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| [19:20:41] | justinh: | ucking ucking tarded freeview monkeys! |
| [19:20:46] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, yeah, I looked at MV code a little last night to see how easy it would be to integrate, but MV loads very quickly here so I wasn't sure of the benefit vs the work involved. |
| [19:21:30] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: Loads relatively quickly here too, I guess I eyed it in terms of UI consistency and for the whiny brats on ancient hardware |
| [19:22:10] | justinh: | I deleted all the muxes, cleared the bloody transports out & scanned from scratch |
| [19:22:14] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: In some Myth consulting work I have done, a common thread is the lack of UI feedback when myth is doing something-- using this across the board would go a long way towards ameliorating that |
| [19:22:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | what I'd like to see is the abilty to update the main screen outside the UI thread, so we could create widgets, etc. in one thread and have them displayed in the UI thread. That would mean we could keep the busy dialog animated longer while the buttonlists were being created. right now the animation stops when ::Init() fires in the UI thread (and hence stops drawing) |
| [19:22:34] | justinh: | myth consulting work? |
| [19:23:05] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: Yeah, but even a static progress bar is preferable to a UI hang IMO |
| [19:23:21] | iamlindoro: | justinh: nothing that fancy, jsut some people with more money than linux knowledge wanting some whole-home installs |
| [19:23:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, yeah, that's why I went and put the busy dialog object pointer inside MythScreenType, so any screen could use that functionality easily. |
| [19:24:02] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: It makes still more sense where we fire off external scripts-- MythMovies has a nasty UI Block once every 24 hours |
| [19:24:17] | iamlindoro: | Wait.... clear DB... wait... pull in listings... wait.... build UI... LOAD! |
| [19:25:12] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, since we have m_BusyPopup inside MythScreenType, we should add a ::ShowBusyPopup(QString message) and ::HideBusyPopup() so any screen that wants to popup a busy dialog can do so. |
| [19:26:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | if we could update the UI outside the UI thread, then the screen could actually draw or update underneath the busy dialog. |
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| [19:28:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | is that UI block on startup of MythMovies? |
| [19:28:10] | iamlindoro: | yeah |
| [19:30:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | I'll take a look at it. |
| [19:30:31] | justinh: | I tested the 0.22 scanner last night to see if it'd update cleanly with the new freeview lineup. It didn't |
| [19:31:09] | justinh: | seems like there are too many edgy cases at play – either that or the muxes were still in a state of flux when I tried |
| [19:31:23] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: Nah, didn't mean to make it your problem, I can give it a shot if you're swamped |
| [19:31:34] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: should be enough good examples from last night's stuff |
| [19:32:42] | Captain_Murdoch: | depends on how odd MMovies is. :) I'll take a quick look and if it's too invasive it may have to wait. I want to get back on my ProgramInfo XML stuff for archived recordings so I can finish that up and get onto the shared table for video files. :) |
| [19:32:56] | justinh: | backgrounding things will be great for animated backgrounds too I suppose :) |
| [19:33:11] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: nice |
| [19:33:26] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: well, just wave me off if it's non-obvious-- I suspect it's oldish MythUI code |
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| [19:35:56] | justinh: | oh honestly this is ridiculous. I scanned with scan at about 2pm today. It has BBC THREE on a mux at 80133000 but myth found it at 80200000 |
| [19:36:08] | justinh: | but I tested every channel & they all worked at 5pm |
| [19:37:02] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, it looks trivial to make MMovies load in the background. |
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| [19:38:20] | Captain_Murdoch: | UI drawing and data loading code are separate so it should be easy. |
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| [19:39:18] | justinh: | wonder if I'm suddenly picking up muxes from other areas now |
| [19:42:11] | Captain_Murdoch: | iamlindoro, yep, trivial. 1 minute to implement after doublechecking the code for UI operations in the loading routines. |
| [19:42:29] | Captain_Murdoch: | busy dialog now shows while the data is downloading. |
| [19:42:39] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: haha, didn't mean for you to have to do it, but thanks :) |
| [19:42:55] | Captain_Murdoch: | -O MythMovies.LastGrabDate=invaliddate made for easy testing. |
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| [19:46:24] | Captain_Murdoch: | in trunk now. :) twas easy, I'd have looked more into converting MV last night if the codebase wasn't as large. |
| [19:46:40] | ExElNeT: | how do i tell the mythtv frontend to use another backend? |
| [19:47:02] | justinh: | ahhh there are 6 muxes, hence the dup channels |
| [19:49:52] | justinh: | w t f |
| [19:50:02] | justinh: | it's a bloody mess :( |
| [19:54:09] | ExElNeT: | hmm i dont get it... i thought the frontend would communicate with the backend? or does the frontend only talk to the database? |
| [19:54:35] | GreyFoxx: | The FE talks to the master backend |
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| [19:54:41] | GreyFoxx: | the master backend talks to slave backends |
| [19:54:58] | justinh: | all machines talk to the database to find out where the master backend is first |
| [19:55:17] | ExElNeT: | justinh: ok thats what i was missing... |
| [19:55:19] | GreyFoxx: | If you are getting rid of the old backend and setting up a new one with a different IP run mythtv-setup and change the IP in there |
| [19:55:53] | justinh: | a master backend knows it's the master by working out if the IP of the MBE is the same as its IP address AFAIK :) |
| [19:55:55] | ExElNeT: | any idea whats the default password for mythtv database on gentoo? |
| [19:56:02] | justinh: | mythtv ? |
| [19:56:11] | justinh: | depends what you set it to |
| [19:57:44] | ExElNeT: | ah...ok... it might have been set by the script i executed... |
| [19:59:54] | justinh: | you surely don't mean mc.sql |
| [20:01:50] | ExElNeT: | justinh: i meant mc.sql... but this doesnt do much :=) ill add a user myself... |
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| [20:03:04] | justinh: | that only generates a blank database AFAIK |
| [20:03:44] | ExElNeT: | what rights should the user have? |
| [20:04:05] | ExElNeT: | the frontend only needs the mythconverg db right? |
| [20:04:23] | _ben: | that is the only db :) |
| [20:05:47] | ExElNeT: | _ben: oh right... all this my stuff... ^^ |
| [20:08:45] | Hiisty: | i upgraded my mythtv from 0.21 to 0.22, now i get error from mythbackend "Incorrect key file for table './mythtv/upnpmedia.MYI'; try to repair it |
| [20:09:03] | Hiisty: | how i can repair that? |
| [20:10:36] | dustybin: | i think its time to buy a proper computer chair and start using my computer from a desk again :D |
| [20:12:57] | Josh_Borke: | Hiisty: did you upgrade you database? |
| [20:13:22] | Josh_Borke: | actually, that looks like a mysql error |
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| [20:13:59] | Hiisty: | Josh_Borke: no i didn't |
| [20:14:31] | Hiisty: | Josh_Borke: is that updated from mythtv-setup? |
| [20:15:05] | Josh_Borke: | i have no idea. i haven't upgraded to .22 |
| [20:16:57] | justinh: | grr. another kernel snafu on the karmic box |
| [20:17:03] | justinh: | wah wahhhhhhhhhh. it's gotta go |
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| [20:35:22] | pjcrux: | hello all I am receiving the following error with mythtv running on fedora 11. [Tue Nov 03 16:36:12 2009] [error] [client 192.168.1.103] PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined function posix_uname() in /var/hda/web-apps/mythtv/html/includes/defines.php on line 21 |
| [20:35:39] | pjcrux: | I've googled the error but cannot determine what the fix is |
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| [20:37:02] | pjcrux: | would a yum install php_uname work to fix |
| [20:37:08] | pjcrux: | I'm grasping at straws |
| [20:37:39] | pjcrux: | I've found this link that mentions a similar problem on suse http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/374157 |
| [20:38:24] | HypNoMadic: | Hello – just a quick question about fanart and the new themes, to use fanart for backgrounds on the main menus, does one need to edit the theme files by hand? For instance, for Graphite, edit "tr BackgroundPixmap=" in qtlook.txt, or is there a better way? |
| [20:38:28] | Josh_Borke: | pjcrux: what version of mythtv? |
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| [20:38:35] | pjcrux: | 0.21 |
| [20:39:15] | Josh_Borke: | pjcrux: from a package or from tarball? |
| [20:39:26] | pjcrux: | from rpmfusion |
| [20:44:35] | pjcrux: | wow crickets |
| [20:45:50] | justinh: | HypNoMadic: don't think you can use fanart for backgrounds without explicitly defining a directory |
| [20:46:02] | justinh: | so that excludes the use of storagegroups |
| [20:48:32] | HypNoMadic: | justinh: I have all the fanart/posters/banners directories defined everywhere I can find them and they are working for recordings and videos, I'm just seeing cool screenshots of main menus that look like they're using extra art too, and graphite's main menus with solid colors could use a little spiffing up, imho |
| [20:49:06] | justinh: | you can define the background to be a random image from a directory, and that's it |
| [20:49:17] | justinh: | as far as I know |
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| [20:49:28] | iamlindoro: | justinh: correct |
| [20:49:35] | HypNoMadic: | justinh: that sounds good, where would I set that, for Graphite for instance? |
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| [20:49:46] | justinh: | in menu-ui.xml |
| [20:49:57] | HypNoMadic: | cool, thanks much |
| [20:50:14] | justinh: | but if your fanart is only in a storagegroup it won't work |
| [20:50:50] | justinh: | so if it's stored on a different machine & you want to use it from remote frontends on the network you'd have to export the dir using NFS, say & then mount it on all the frontends |
| [20:50:55] | HypNoMadic: | it's in the .mythtv/MythVideo/ folder for the user running mythfrontend, so that should work, no? |
| [20:51:18] | HypNoMadic: | ah, nope, just have a single frontend/backend combo |
| [20:51:20] | justinh: | if it's all on the one machine it should be fine |
| [20:53:17] | justinh: | iamlindoro: need SG support throughout the UI, stat! ;-) |
| [20:53:31] | justinh: | and crossfading, while you're at it :P |
| [20:53:45] | iamlindoro: | justinh: Feeling a little burned today, unlikely to do anything more this week |
| [20:53:53] | iamlindoro: | maybe goodwill will return next week |
| [20:54:02] | justinh: | actually I need to work out wth this kernel problem is coming from on the machine bound to be the new backend |
| [20:54:12] | justinh: | hope it's just the nvidia driver |
| [20:54:20] | justinh: | if so, I'll get rid |
| [20:56:20] | justinh: | wait a sec.. was it just a frontend segfault? Oh jees |
| [20:56:52] | justinh: | aunting worrywort buntu |
| [20:57:11] | justinh: | mythfrontend[9611]: segfault at 0 ip 03b4bbe8 sp bfabf980 error 4 in libGL.so.190.42[3acd000+97000] |
| [20:57:23] | dustybin: | justinh: why do you use a cutting edge distro like ubuntu if you never update it? |
| [20:57:43] | justinh: | it harps on about potential system instability & general worrying crap like that |
| [20:57:52] | justinh: | dustybin: cutting edge? lol |
| [20:58:07] | dustybin: | 6 month release is fairly cutting edge to me |
| [20:58:13] | justinh: | I move to a newer version every now & again |
| [20:58:15] | dustybin: | im used to a 2 year release :P |
| [20:58:40] | justinh: | more to be certain I've got everything I need to build trunk without having to compile qt & junk |
| [20:59:14] | justinh: | but as for every last single update.. they can go to hell with all that. I've no time to install every knee-jerk patch |
| [20:59:23] | dustybin: | i use Debian, everything is rock solid stable, if i require newer stuff installed i compile into /usr/local, i can keep my system fully update with security patches + bugs, there are small updates very occassionally |
| [20:59:35] | justinh: | esp. on a machine not directly exposed to the net |
| [21:00:08] | justinh: | I'm not a huge fan of ubuntu right now but I'm lazy & it's easy |
| [21:00:52] | dustybin: | hmmm, debian is easy as well! they are more or less the same when it comes to configuring |
| [21:01:17] | justinh: | not listening |
| [21:01:21] | laga: | LALALA |
| [21:01:26] | iamlindoro: | The day I see justinh take distro advice from dustybin is the day I format all my hard drives and move to a cave |
| [21:01:41] | justinh: | when I need help from you dustybin, with the greatest of respect.. |
| [21:01:47] | dustybin: | :D |
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| [21:02:07] | laga: | but debian rarely is a bad choice. i gotta give dustybin that :) |
| [21:03:45] | dustybin: | debian has a nice multimedia repo for all the stuff mythtv requires |
| [21:03:54] | dustybin: | no messing around |
| [21:04:33] | dustybin: | 21:04:33 up 81 days, 23:45, 4 users, load average: 0.95, 1.06, 0.91 |
| [21:04:49] | dustybin: | Linux wizbox 2.6.26-2–686 #1 SMP Fri Aug 14 01:27:18 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| [21:06:29] | iamlindoro: | guess uptime is a measure of the "goodness" of a distro? |
| [21:06:51] | dustybin: | i havent done a uptime for _ages_ |
| [21:06:55] | dustybin: | i just did one: |
| [21:06:59] | dustybin: | The following packages will be upgraded: libexpat1 libhtml-parser-perl smarty |
| [21:07:01] | iamlindoro: | 13:18:13 up 286 days, 2:15, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.07, 0.04 |
| [21:07:02] | laga: | "i haven't measured the length for ages" |
| [21:07:16] | iamlindoro: | That's ubuntu, I guess it must be magically three times as good as your box |
| [21:07:21] | iamlindoro: | tool |
| [21:08:36] | ** iamlindoro wonders when uptime started upgrading packages ** | |
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| [21:08:41] | dustybin: | in my view, myth backend is a server, and servers require distros what are stable and have long release cycles |
| [21:09:28] | dustybin: | if you are not updating your ubuntu because your scared if something breaks, then you are using the wrong distro |
| [21:09:43] | laga: | machst du? |
| [21:09:45] | laga: | oops |
| [21:09:49] | iamlindoro: | was? |
| [21:09:53] | laga: | wrong window |
| [21:10:17] | iamlindoro: | ja, selbstverstäntlich |
| [21:11:41] | iamlindoro: | dustybin: You realize you have far less experience than pretty much everyone you try to lecture, right? It's like you *enjoy* having everyone of note put you on ignore |
| [21:12:05] | ** laga finds it refreshing ** | |
| [21:12:17] | iamlindoro: | having him on ignore? :) |
| [21:12:22] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: thats just my opinion |
| [21:12:46] | iamlindoro: | your opinion is crap |
| [21:13:06] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: and so is your ubuntu breakage :P |
| [21:13:26] | iamlindoro: | what breakage? |
| [21:13:29] | iamlindoro: | My systems work *great* |
| [21:13:33] | squidly: | mine does too |
| [21:13:38] | iamlindoro: | thus invalidating your opinion |
| [21:13:44] | dustybin: | aye ok |
| [21:13:59] | squidly: | up 132 days, 15:37 |
| [21:14:18] | dustybin: | i would hate to run a server what requires a shit load of package updates every few days |
| [21:15:05] | squidly: | dustybin: really? that is news to me.. I dont have to update "a shit load of package updates every few days" |
| [21:15:21] | squidly: | hell wehn I wait for a LONG time I only have about 10–20 packages that need to be updated |
| [21:15:23] | jams: | language people |
| [21:15:30] | squidly: | sorry |
| [21:15:38] | laga: | jams: s/ubuntu/that other distro ?/ ? |
| [21:16:15] | jams: | heh..that would be fun to kick out anybody who says *buntu |
| [21:16:38] | iamlindoro: | anyway, point being that distro zealotry is uselezs and juvenile |
| [21:16:41] | iamlindoro: | er useless |
| [21:16:56] | iamlindoro: | use what you want, for whatever reason you want, and for god's sake STFU about it |
| [21:17:03] | squidly: | and shows ignornce of how linux unix actualy work |
| [21:17:13] | squidly: | +10 iamlindoro :) |
| [21:17:32] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, All my mythboxes run on this: http://ubuntusatanic.org/ |
| [21:17:45] | iamlindoro: | works great, just the neighborhood kids keep going missing |
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| [21:19:50] | devinheitmueller: | iamlindoro: would that be the "Sexy Satanic" release? |
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| [21:20:19] | iamlindoro: | 9.10 Perilous Pentagram |
| [21:20:26] | squidly: | lmao |
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| [21:22:46] | PeaceKeeper: | iamlindro: the fact you know about that distro (?) and feel comfortable posting a link is a little scary :p |
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| [21:23:08] | laga: | boohoo. satanism! |
| [21:23:09] | laga: | ;) |
| [21:23:31] | toma2: | myth just recorded 2 programs, but when i try to play them, it says that it can not find the files. what can i do? |
| [21:23:38] | iamlindoro: | It's okay, the Frontends are all http://ubuntuce.com/ |
| [21:23:39] | laga: | except for the crazy darwinian stuff, lavey has had a few interesting points |
| [21:23:41] | iamlindoro: | so it balances out |
| [21:24:08] | laga: | iamlindoro: the full-page ad is a nice touch |
| [21:24:27] | iamlindoro: | laga: Wouldn't be organized religion without a little fundraising |
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| [21:30:24] | toma2: | is my recording gone for evar? |
| [21:30:39] | ]Oscar: | My MBE starts as slave BE, but I don't found a localhost setting anywhere... :( |
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| [21:32:15] | toma2: | stupid mythtv |
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| [21:33:04] | Spida: | win 25 |
| [21:33:07] | Spida: | argh |
| [21:34:43] | ]Oscar: | first page in mythtv-setup, there are both local BE and master BE with the same ip, is this correct? or I must leave one of that blank? |
| [21:34:46] | ** skd5aner is running ubuntu 9.10 with only minimal headaches in the first couple days, smooth sailing now ** | |
| [21:35:22] | dan4dm: | skd5aner: any minimal headaches the world should know about? |
| [21:37:04] | skd5aner: | dan4dm: the usual – pulseaudio, .xsession support, deletion of old kernels on upgrade, a random mysql server problem |
| [21:37:38] | skd5aner: | the .xsession, in my case, was the most annoying because ubuntu thinks it's a bug, but gnome disagrees, and neither with fix it |
| [21:37:53] | skd5aner: | with = will |
| [21:38:06] | dan4dm: | k |
| [21:38:22] | skd5aner: | Found some good info on how to properly disable pulseaudio without the blunt hammer of removing it |
| [21:38:52] | laga: | acid? |
| [21:39:08] | skd5aner: | also had some issues with sound support in flash/firefox – but of course that was resolved when I dealth with pulseaudio |
| [21:39:20] | dan4dm: | skd5aner: actually i'd definitely like that info, not for myth but sth else. have link? |
| [21:39:29] | skd5aner: | yea – gotta dig it up – hold |
| [21:40:39] | skd5aner: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7821384&postcount=8 |
| [21:41:30] | skd5aner: | on the myth side, before disabling pulse audio within the distro, I found it confusing that I had to compile with --enable-audio-pulse in order for myth to be able to *disable* pulse |
| [21:41:36] | skd5aner: | seemed a bit counter intuitive :) |
| [21:42:02] | dan4dm: | ha |
| [21:42:19] | skd5aner: | one bit of relative info though – I don't run the standard ubuntu desktop distro, I run server, then manually add the packages I want |
| [21:42:28] | skd5aner: | cleaner that way – don't get a bunch of junk I'll never use |
| [21:42:54] | skd5aner: | for my boxes that are dedicated to myth that is |
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| [21:46:46] | justinh: | hahaha best series finale ever. Chuck season two, I salute you |
| [21:47:44] | iamlindoro: | justinh: That *was* a fun episode :) |
| [21:47:56] | iamlindoro: | justinh: Though here a series finale means the end of the show for good :) |
| [21:48:11] | iamlindoro: | And Chuck has an order for 19 more episodes, yay |
| [21:48:15] | justinh: | we're just getting used to saying Season here |
| [21:48:20] | ]Oscar: | skd5aner: have a list of manually added packages? |
| [21:48:40] | justinh: | seen that tv.com or whatever has episode titles into next year for it |
| [21:48:58] | justinh: | and if they cancel it I might buy a plane ticket & visit network HQ |
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| [21:51:03] | skd5aner: | jOscar: I tried that once... doing my own depends list, too much hastle |
| [21:51:15] | skd5aner: | if it wouldn't compile, figure out why, and add the dependency :) |
| [21:52:00] | skd5aner: | you can use something like apt-cache depends mythtv though and that'll help you get started |
| [21:52:09] | ]Oscar: | skd5aner: so, you don't add anything else thant strictly related to mythtv? |
| [21:52:35] | skd5aner: | or that would be required to run myth or administer the box |
| [21:53:00] | skd5aner: | i.e., openssh, xorg, xterm, etc |
| [21:53:06] | skd5aner: | It isn't completely bare bones |
| [21:53:06] | ]Oscar: | ok :9 |
| [21:53:17] | skd5aner: | just starting ground up instead of top down, easier to add than to remove |
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| [21:54:21] | skd5aner: | how do you dump a list of all installed packages on debian/ubuntu? |
| [21:54:45] | ]Oscar: | I'm looking in mythcontext.cpp to understand how mythbackend decide to be master or slave. If I understood, to be master, I must configure (via mythtv-setup, first page) both ip (local & master) and they must be the same ip. Is it correct? |
| [21:55:01] | ]Oscar: | skd5aner: dpkg -l ? |
| [21:55:32] | skd5aner: | ah – dpkg --get-selections |
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| [21:59:03] | skd5aner: | nice... |
| [21:59:09] | skd5aner: | 954 packages on my frontend |
| [21:59:21] | skd5aner: | just goes to show how "light-weight" really isn't that light |
| [21:59:35] | skd5aner: | wonder what a standard desktop build of ubuntu would yield |
| [22:00:00] | skd5aner: | dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall > currentpackages |
| [22:01:00] | skd5aner: | 650 packages on my backend |
| [22:01:03] | ]Oscar: | ole',... I got a master backend... |
| [22:01:07] | skd5aner: | no x on that |
| [22:01:38] | dustybin: | the perfect theme creating monitor: http://www.macwarehouse.co.uk/catalogue/item/ . . . cidp=Froogle |
| [22:01:38] | ]Oscar: | but I modified manually settings table, in mysql :( |
| [22:02:03] | ]Oscar: | may be that mythtv-setup did not write down it? |
| [22:02:04] | skd5aner: | ought-oh – what did you have to modify? |
| [22:02:27] | iamlindoro: | dustybin: And you've created how many themes to make such announcements? |
| [22:02:34] | ]Oscar: | here was not defined the record MasterServerId |
| [22:02:55] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: i need to invest in a good monitor first, that display is uses a IPS panel |
| [22:02:58] | ]Oscar: | there was just the BackendServerIp |
| [22:03:21] | iamlindoro: | dustybin: So then, as a proud pap of exactly 0 themes, you know a perfect theme creation display because...? |
| [22:03:28] | ]Oscar: | There was a MasterServerIp for a different host |
| [22:03:47] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: panel technology and resolution |
| [22:04:01] | iamlindoro: | dustybin: "idiocy" and "dropped as a baby" were the correct answers, sorry |
| [22:06:30] | ** dan4dm detects a hint of frostiness, and must assume dustybin has done some unspeakable crimes in this channel ** | |
| [22:06:44] | justinh: | had to swap a 32" LCD monitor on a test dev's system today. the hdmi cable was damaged & he blamed it for the poor picture quality onscreen. Swapped the cable, still same so swapped the monitor. Figured I'd have a shot replacing the HDMI socket on the 'faulty' monitor & it turned out the new monitor still showed the fault. turned out to be the camera going into the DVR. He's never gonna live that down |
| [22:07:29] | iamlindoro: | dan4dm: You assume correctly, he's guilty of the high crime against humanity of regularly inflicting himself upon us |
| [22:07:54] | justinh: | wonder how iambic-pentameter-wide is coming along |
| [22:08:24] | iamlindoro: | details of which include asking questions designed to piss people off, general trollery, and proclaiming "facts" while being generally technically retarded |
| [22:08:41] | justinh: | but relax, this *is* IRC after all |
| [22:08:43] | justinh: | ;-) |
| [22:08:50] | dan4dm: | :) |
| [22:09:23] | brad2: | okay silly question, i am fully prepared to be mocked |
| [22:09:38] | brad2: | these incredibly long makefiles in the plugin directories.. are people making these by hand? |
| [22:09:42] | brad2: | they are enournmous! |
| [22:09:58] | iamlindoro: | brad2: Makefiles are generated at compile time |
| [22:10:00] | justinh: | thought they came from .pro files |
| [22:10:04] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [22:10:15] | brad2: | ahhhhhh i see, i'm so dumb |
| [22:10:16] | ** justinh is shocked at knowing something like that ** | |
| [22:10:32] | brad2: | i was editing the makefile to remove a bunch of unnecessary mythnews files, but i guess i didn't have to do that |
| [22:10:38] | brad2: | i kept thinking "people can't be doing this" |
| [22:10:39] | brad2: | haha |
| [22:10:49] | justinh: | the .pro files are enough. sheesh |
| [22:11:02] | brad2: | will check out the .pro files, thanks for the tip |
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| [22:11:26] | iamlindoro: | Why remove mythnews files at all? |
| [22:11:31] | iamlindoro: | what's wrong with --disable-mythnews? |
| [22:11:37] | justinh: | gimme the MEHs editing .pro files |
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| [22:11:55] | justinh: | square peg coding. just add hammer |
| [22:12:24] | brad2: | iamlindoro, well i copied mythnews plugin into a seperate directory, renamed it to mythBrad, and started using it as a framework for my own plugin |
| [22:12:32] | justinh: | wonder how to turn off ubuntu's kernel scaremongery |
| [22:12:38] | brad2: | but mythnews has tons of support files with functions i don't use in my plugin, so i was getting rid of them |
| [22:12:43] | iamlindoro: | brad2: ahh, ok |
| [22:13:08] | brad2: | i'm loving this plugin stuff, learning so much |
| [22:13:42] | justinh: | hrm, or was it the suspend stuff. more digging needed |
| [22:15:52] | justinh: | yeh. damn |
| [22:18:25] | ** skd5aner desperately wishes he had the ninja mojo coding skills required to write quality plugins ** | |
| [22:18:55] | justinh: | don't we all |
| [22:18:59] | wagnerrp: | ninja mojo coding skills? |
| [22:19:10] | skd5aner: | :) |
| [22:19:11] | wagnerrp: | you 'inject' the code into the computer by stealthily raping it? |
| [22:19:25] | skd5aner: | or – normal people skills would even suffice sans any ninja ones |
| [22:20:17] | skd5aner: | justinh: what did you decide to do distro wise? mythbuntu? |
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| [22:21:21] | brad2: | skd5: you could take my approach.. just try to brute force the code, and write it 8000 different ways, until iamlindoro explains it to me ;) |
| [22:21:32] | iamlindoro: | MythBuntuExThemer Edition |
| [22:21:48] | iamlindoro: | It's Mythbuntu, but it automatically removes any XML file every night just to make sure you don't theme anything |
| [22:22:13] | iamlindoro: | brad2: It's a sad sad day when I become the myth code answer man ;) |
| [22:23:17] | justinh: | skd5aner: trying karmic for the time being. it might stick |
| [22:23:24] | skd5aner: | brad2: my solution has been to wait until someone has the same priorities I do and does it for the community |
| [22:23:33] | skd5aner: | my approach, in general, sucks and is not recommended ;) |
| [22:23:47] | iamlindoro: | doing anything for the community is the wrong reason in general :) |
| [22:24:00] | justinh: | nooo! |
| [22:24:04] | iamlindoro: | Do it for you, and the community can take it or suck it |
| [22:24:09] | skd5aner: | justinh: yea – if you need any help, let me know – definitely not an expert, but crossed some hurdles to get mine to be stable for myth |
| [22:24:10] | justinh: | teh communitae is all! |
| [22:24:19] | brad2: | iamlindoro: it may be a sad sad day, but right now you are my yoda |
| [22:24:20] | brad2: | ;) |
| [22:24:25] | iamlindoro: | Kommunitae machst du frei |
| [22:24:35] | justinh: | it's just karmic being a bit twitchy coming out of suspend as far as I can tell :) |
| [22:24:59] | skd5aner: | ok – change of words: does it for the community = shares it with the community |
| [22:25:50] | skd5aner: | you're a little ahead of me there. I haven't ventured to mess with suspend yet |
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| [22:26:12] | justinh: | haha there's an update for the kernel oops daemon. possibly to be less twitchy :) |
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| [22:29:37] | justinh: | not that the box would get many rests in its long life |
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| [22:33:12] | laga: | what's the kernel oops daemon? |
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| [22:36:59] | justinh: | seems like it watches for the kernel going oops |
| [22:38:02] | justinh: | this kind of thing WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.31/kernel/power/suspend_test.c:52 |
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| [22:41:54] | PeaceKeeper: | the program '/usr/bin/mythfrontend' called 'udevinfo', it should use 'udevadm info <options>', this will stop working in a future release |
| [22:42:04] | PeaceKeeper: | there is a new one (at least to me) |
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| [23:01:47] | iamlindoro: | Captain_Murdoch: You have your hands full right now, but before I forget about it, can you weigh in on #7487? StorageGroup::FileInfoList not returning directories which contain accented characters. Headed home now, maybe we can catch up sometime later on it |
| [23:02:04] | Captain_Murdoch: | yeah, saw it and kept it in my inbox to take a look. |
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| [23:02:39] | iamlindoro: | cool, thanks |
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| [23:16:34] | justinh: | Dibblah: can you remember the url of that uk digital tv site which goes into detail about the switchover technicalities? |
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| [23:22:10] | justinh: | trying to find out why I've got two BBC muxes here |
| [23:23:54] | _ben: | justinh: are you having issues with duplicate channels or something? |
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| [23:25:18] | Dibblah: | Yay for 7 hour phone calls :( |
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| [23:41:22] | Dibblah: | How do you mean technical details? |
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| [23:42:59] | _ben: | i wonder if justinh is picking up two transmitters |
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