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| [00:00:13] | sphery: | via from that era + ivtv = fun for the whole family |
| [00:00:26] | gnarface: | er, maybe not high bandwidth but required low latency? |
| [00:00:50] | sphery: | via from that era with even one ivtv card was a pain |
| [00:00:59] | sphery: | (so much so that I replaced my mobo) |
| [00:01:19] | dserban: | hah, yeah, my local internet shop put 200+ pvr 150's on for $35.00... I'm gonna pick up two more and move the stb's under the stairs along with the backend... |
| [00:01:34] | wagnerrp: | sphery: flash could make it work |
| [00:01:45] | dserban: | sphery: really? via in general or a specific chipset? |
| [00:01:56] | gnarface: | kt133's were the worst |
| [00:02:08] | gnarface: | nforce2 chipsets were sometimes a p.i.t.a. as well |
| [00:02:12] | dserban: | crap that's probably what it is... i think it's sdram too :) |
| [00:02:21] | iamlindoro: | elmojo, In some initial testing, I am not seeing any significant regressions in HD-PVr content |
| [00:02:23] | gnarface: | apollo pro highly suspect, triton1 something or another was jacked too |
| [00:02:55] | iamlindoro: | elmojo, maybe even a slight improvement in skip behavior |
| [00:03:05] | dserban: | meh, well maybe I'll find a different board/chip/mem combo... needs to have 5 pci slots available is all I really care about |
| [00:03:17] | gnarface: | kt266 or later should be fine |
| [00:03:25] | gnarface: | before that all kinds of drama |
| [00:03:41] | dserban: | does livetv work well over a network? (not that it'll be used much), just to peruse new sitcoms/shows |
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| [00:04:06] | AndyCap: | dserban: as well as livetv works |
| [00:04:17] | AndyCap: | dserban: unless you're talking wireless |
| [00:04:25] | gnarface: | i've seen people online suggest that even going BACK further to like bx440 dual-proc systems is more stable |
| [00:04:29] | iamlindoro: | elmojo, though I never use them, rewind and fast forward are quite smooth |
| [00:04:30] | dserban: | gnarface: ok, well I have a via kt880 socket 939 mobo... maybe I'll use it instead |
| [00:04:44] | dserban: | AndyCap: nah, gigabit |
| [00:05:01] | gnarface: | cpu load is a non-issue with the hauppage cards as their onboard mpeg2 encoding is trivial cpu load |
| [00:05:10] | wagnerrp: | gnarface: ive got one of those |
| [00:05:43] | dserban: | gnarface: ok, so just watch for the chipset? I've got a p3 bx something or other single cpu... I may use it instead |
| [00:06:34] | dserban: | I dunno, just wondering if it was powerful enough... does the fe do the dvd encoding? or does it offload to the be? (my current setup = fe/be on main box) |
| [00:06:44] | gnarface: | dserban: yea a p2 300 celeron can drive a pvr-x50 just fine, the chipset is the achilles heel |
| [00:07:03] | dserban: | gnarface: wow lol... nice |
| [00:07:23] | gnarface: | the mpeg encoding onboard on those things is just about zero cpu load |
| [00:09:34] | gnarface: | some people have managed to massage kt133 systems into behaving as mythtv boxes |
| [00:09:53] | gnarface: | but its unlikely any specific method is universally reliable |
| [00:10:13] | gnarface: | almost like the problem with the dma/bus-master handling on those boards is subject to sunspots or something |
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| [00:10:38] | gnarface: | but if you had to |
| [00:10:46] | _ben: | So, basically there's on demand stuff which I think is played thru a flash player – is it possible to somehow stream it via myth? |
| [00:10:48] | ** laga recommends setting it on fire. ;) ** | |
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| [00:11:37] | gnarface: | if you had to disable anything that takes an irq – unused usb, unused ethernet, unused ide sockets, extra COM ports, then start randomly re-arranging pci slots |
| [00:11:39] | awalls: | hmm. I only thought the PCI bridge on the PVR-500 was a problem with the VIA chipsets. |
| [00:11:58] | dserban: | yeah, that's pretty cool that those cards can do it so well with negligible cpu load |
| [00:12:07] | gnarface: | ...then disable acpi, apic, and ioapic... then you *might* get it to work if you're lucky and your board was built on a wednesday |
| [00:12:15] | awalls: | :) |
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| [00:13:37] | Josh____: | Hey guys, I'm switching my analog tuner to a STB via S-Video. I've gotten the card configured and it works using mplayer. In mythtv-setup, I've selected the card and the input, and selected a lineup using S_D. I'm lost on how to tell myth what channels are available (I'm used to running a channel scan?) |
| [00:14:38] | wagnerrp: | _ben: in trunk, you can play flash content in mythbrowser... if your processor is fast enough... |
| [00:14:47] | gnarface: | dserban: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0305.0/0661.html |
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| [00:14:59] | _ben: | ta wagnerrp – i'll give it a shot |
| [00:15:01] | Josh____: | Hmm, apparently a "fetch channels from listing source" was the answer. |
| [00:15:02] | [R]: | Josh____: tyhere is a button to "get lineput from listings" |
| [00:15:08] | _ben: | wagnerrp: what kinda speed are we talking about? |
| [00:15:28] | gnarface: | ^^ its not just the kt133 but the kt133 is the most notoriously badly behaved in this manner of chips in that era |
| [00:15:43] | gnarface: | sorry ^^ http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0305.0/0661.html |
| [00:16:19] | wagnerrp: | _ben: dont know, depends on the resolution of your screen |
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| [00:19:46] | sphery: | _ben: in my 0.21-fixes system using Firefox and the flash plugin (versus the Qt WebKit browser in trunk which uses the same flash plugin), my Athlon X2 6000+ can do fullscreen (@1920x1080p) of the CBS.com tv shows, but can't do fullscreen of standard-def /or/ "high-def" Hulu content. |
| [00:20:19] | _ben: | I think I need to have a play :) |
| [00:20:25] | sphery: | and at 1920x1080, the non-fullscreen Hulu is a postage stamp-sized area inside a huge field of ads and garbage in the browser |
| [00:20:59] | _ben: | I just have access to a lot of on demand and archived stuff |
| [00:21:17] | iamlindoro: | Hulu Hi Def is a pretty hilarious definition |
| [00:21:18] | _ben: | altho it's place shifting and not time shifting |
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| [00:37:24] | [R]: | hot damn |
| [00:37:27] | [R]: | i think i fixed my VDPAU problems |
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| [00:40:27] | ExElNeT: | heya, which program does mythtv use for dvds? |
| [00:41:18] | meshe: | it uses it's internal player |
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| [00:41:43] | [R]: | ExElNeT: it uses whatever yo utell it to use |
| [00:42:05] | ExElNeT: | well the player is quite good... :=) so thats why im asking |
| [00:42:38] | meshe: | you can check in your frontend settings, there's a spot to configure it there |
| [00:42:44] | _ben: | i find the internal player quite bad atm :/ |
| [00:43:03] | _ben: | lots of stuttering – i just haven't sat down and looked at it properly yet |
| [00:44:10] | ExElNeT: | hmm.. well i was surprised that the dvd i put in was played perfectly... |
| [00:44:22] | _ben: | =) |
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| [00:44:46] | [R]: | ExElNeT: why is this surprising to you? |
| [00:46:34] | ExElNeT: | [R]: i have had many problems with playing back dvds on linux... (mplayer) ... e.g. idiotic copy protections |
| [00:46:55] | [R]: | if myth plays a certain dvd and mplayer doesnt |
| [00:46:57] | [R]: | something is seroiusly wrong |
| [00:47:07] | gnarface: | dvdbackup has never failed me |
| [00:47:20] | gnarface: | vlc has not failed me in quite some time |
| [00:47:33] | ** [R] gets all sad that his vdpau is still fscked ** | |
| [00:48:27] | ExElNeT: | maybe they improved... i have been using a dvd player the last year |
| [00:48:51] | ExElNeT: | since 70% of the dvds i got from the store wont playback... |
| [00:50:42] | ExElNeT: | wow im really happy with mythtv... great work... the app has vastly improved the last 5+ years... |
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| [00:52:08] | gnarface: | vlc has had some issues plaguing it with the dvd nav software and stability and such but i've always been able to at least play by title/chapter number |
| [00:53:14] | gnarface: | and 5.1 sound is sometimes jacked (channels in wrong spot) but its not always clear whether that is the alsa drivers for the soundcard or the playback software's fault |
| [00:53:39] | gnarface: | if you're really seeing 70% failure rates chances are the real culprit is your dvd drive is worn out and nearly completely failed |
| [00:54:04] | gnarface: | optical drives fail by head misalignment similarly to ancient 5" floppy drive failure behavior |
| [00:54:40] | gnarface: | (some specific media seems disproportionately more difficult to read as the drive gets further and further out of alignment) |
| [00:55:49] | gnarface: | the only difference is optical drives these days aren't meant to be consumer-tunable like those old vic 1541 drives were |
| [00:55:54] | gnarface: | they're just meant to be disposed of |
| [00:56:53] | gnarface: | if you've got a spare drive try it with all the same software and you'll know for sure |
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| [01:00:37] | ExElNeT: | ah ok... i ll think about it, thanks |
| [01:00:57] | ExElNeT: | if i try it again and it fails... :P |
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| [01:19:38] | ExElNeT: | hmm the transcoding failed... :/ |
| [01:24:26] | wagnerrp: | seems something is wrong with my House capture... mythtranscode locks up at 63% |
| [01:25:33] | wagnerrp: | failed twice in the same spot |
| [01:25:49] | iamlindoro: | So I've decided to try Stargate Universe, and remembering how nice it is that there's only one national feed of SyFyllis HD, so I get it with the east coast :) |
| [01:26:52] | Dagmar: | Well, they show it twice back to backj |
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| [01:27:27] | iamlindoro: | they always do that kind of thing |
| [01:27:47] | wagnerrp: | 2 hours long, and its part 1 of 2? |
| [01:28:00] | iamlindoro: | per TVDB, each hour is one part |
| [01:28:08] | Dagmar: | So did the guy with the insoluble 'MythWeb won't show thumbnails' issue finally figure out how he misconfigured apache? |
| [01:28:41] | sphery: | it was figured out |
| [01:28:44] | sphery: | it wasn't apache |
| [01:28:59] | sphery: | one of his sessions had the checkbox to show previews unchecked |
| [01:29:21] | Dagmar: | THey're two hours long according to what's on SD |
| [01:29:26] | sphery: | which made tracking it down much harder because it sometimes worked and sometimes didn't |
| [01:29:30] | Dagmar: | lol |
| [01:29:43] | Dagmar: | I figured it was apache after he said error_log was _empty_ |
| [01:31:25] | sphery: | yeah, for some reason he didn't get errors when everything worked as configured ;) |
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| [01:32:33] | wagnerrp: | so would it be worth clipping out and posting the segment mythtranscode is failing on? |
| [01:32:55] | wagnerrp: | ... i should probably update and try again |
| [01:33:04] | wagnerrp: | i saw there was some change with replex |
| [01:33:26] | sphery: | replex update got reverted |
| [01:33:52] | wagnerrp: | well either direction, im running a version not what head is using |
| [01:33:58] | sphery: | still worth up(down?)dating to see if it's changed |
| [01:34:15] | sphery: | it = behavior |
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| [01:42:26] | wagnerrp: | BAH! |
| [01:42:59] | wagnerrp: | 'the blackout happened at exactly 11AM PST, the odds of that happening are'.... EXACTLY THE SAME AS IT HAPPENING AT ANY OTHER TIME!! |
| [01:43:45] | wagnerrp: | someone needs to be bitchslapped by a statistician |
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| [01:56:03] | Gumby: | wagnerrp: depends on the reason for the blackout |
| [01:56:54] | wagnerrp: | Gumby: FlashForward... the world blacks out for two and some minutes |
| [01:57:30] | wagnerrp: | the fact that it happened at exactly 11am is absolutely meaningless on its own |
| [01:57:41] | Gumby: | agreed. |
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| [02:06:13] | sphery: | well, when that data point is graphed along with all the other times the entire world blacks out for 2:17, I think the pattern is quite obvious |
| [02:06:37] | wagnerrp: | it happens multiple times? |
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| [02:08:19] | sphery: | no, exactly once in the entire history of the world |
| [02:08:50] | wagnerrp: | yeah, and youve got a 1/3600 chance that it will happen at exactly the top of the hour |
| [02:09:07] | sphery: | I was just pretending like they had a point |
| [02:09:09] | wagnerrp: | just like youve got a 1/3600 chance it will happen at the |
| [02:09:23] | wagnerrp: | 'more random' 2594 seconds past the top of the hour |
| [02:09:44] | sphery: | And, when you think about it, the clock time (and possibly time zone) /are/ in fact universally-significant values |
| [02:11:58] | sphery: | hmmm... backend doesn't like it when you drop the DB while it's running |
| [02:14:37] | iamlindoro: | I say file a bug |
| [02:14:41] | iamlindoro: | It's totally Myth's fault |
| [02:14:56] | iamlindoro: | Just like how Jamu can't read from directories without read access to them |
| [02:18:50] | Gumby: | is mythbrowser a thing of the past? |
| [02:19:04] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [02:19:18] | Gumby: | or is it part of .22 and not .21? |
| [02:19:30] | iamlindoro: | nope, part of both... |
| [02:19:47] | Gumby: | hrm, odd. mythbuntu doesnt seem to have it. |
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| [02:22:46] | sphery: | iamlindoro: you're right... it should probably handle the DB's being dropped better. |
| [02:23:05] | sphery: | Gumby: it's a plugin |
| [02:23:37] | [R]: | so i went to the store today and i checked an itx board and it looks like the screw holes are identical to ATX... that puts my mind at ease |
| [02:23:48] | [R]: | i really want to get one of those zotac ion boards |
| [02:26:15] | wagnerrp: | awesome... my standard definition copy of SGU is just the HD copy downscalled |
| [02:26:23] | wagnerrp: | which means the text is rather hard to read |
| [02:26:32] | wagnerrp: | hopefully it remains just the credits |
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| [02:34:25] | wagnerrp: | wow... this is straight out of The Last Starfighter |
| [02:34:42] | wagnerrp: | beat the game, get taken in a spaceship |
| [02:34:49] | sphery: | on the bright side, I liked that movie |
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| [02:35:01] | wagnerrp: | macguyver has gained some weight |
| [02:35:12] | wagnerrp: | arent they remaking that movie? |
| [02:35:33] | wagnerrp: | wow, they didnt give him much of a choice |
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| [02:36:55] | wagnerrp: | you could say they made him an offer he couldnt refuse |
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| [02:49:47] | wagnerrp: | so is this going to be like Defying Gravity? where the whole series is just a sequence of flashbacks? |
| [02:56:12] | elmojo: | spherypedia: my recordings used to start 30 secs early and end 30 seconds and now they no longer do – any thoughts? |
| [02:58:08] | sphery: | elmojo: did you change the "Time to record before start of show (in seconds)" and "Time to record past end of show (in seconds)" (frontend settings, TV Settings|General) |
| [02:58:34] | sphery: | though those /only/ work when recordings aren't back-to-back |
| [02:58:49] | sphery: | (technically, only when using a card that wasn't previously in use) |
| [02:58:50] | elmojo: | I thought with multi-rec they did |
| [02:58:58] | sphery: | nope, ignored |
| [02:59:13] | sphery: | though some want to abuse them like you want, so it may be changed in the future |
| [02:59:16] | clever: | even if its the exact same channel? |
| [02:59:26] | sphery: | yep, even then |
| [02:59:38] | clever: | id think they should work within the multiplex (including same channel) |
| [02:59:51] | clever: | and it should be easy to do it on the same channel with analog crap |
| [03:00:01] | elmojo: | heh, I was sure if it was back-to-back on the same channel it would work |
| [03:00:02] | sphery: | it's ignored /unless/ using a card that wasn't previously in use (or in the case of end of show, unless no recording uses the card after) |
| [03:00:07] | clever: | the pvr150 is just giving a mpeg stream that can go to 2 files |
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| [03:01:14] | sphery: | elmojo: see http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/399388#399388 |
| [03:01:36] | sphery: | specifically http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/399397#399397 |
| [03:02:38] | sphery: | and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/399415#399415 |
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| [03:07:51] | elmojo: | sphery: so if for each recording rule I tell it to start eary/end late then it will work as I desire? |
| [03:08:58] | clever: | and probly get a ton of conflicts |
| [03:11:09] | sphery: | elmojo: it will tell Myth you want it to definitely start early and end late and not to record if it can't start early/end late |
| [03:11:44] | sphery: | You may have some conflicts, but if you have an appropriate number of capture cards/virtual tuners for your recording needs, you won't get any conflicts. :) |
| [03:13:23] | elmojo: | sphery: ah, understood |
| [03:13:31] | elmojo: | thanks |
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| [03:35:03] | iamlindoro: | Oh Senator Shooter McGavin... |
| [03:36:13] | wagnerrp: | yeah, hes annoying me... kinda hoping he dies |
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| [03:39:04] | pjcrux: | hello all I'm trying to configure an HVR-1600 but under option two when I try to install the card it is not recognized as an IVTV MPEG-2 only as an MPEG and I do not have an finish button at the bottom. Anythoughts? |
| [03:39:20] | wagnerrp: | you configure it as two separate cards |
| [03:39:38] | wagnerrp: | one IVTV card, one digital tuner |
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| [03:40:29] | wagnerrp: | that means you should have a /dev/video0, and a /dev/dvb/adaptor0 |
| [03:41:32] | wagnerrp: | i dont get it, they have to seal up some leakes before their air runs out in a matter of hours |
| [03:41:51] | wagnerrp: | how did they manage to be so unlucky to gate in just hours before the shipe became unlivable |
| [03:42:14] | wagnerrp: | thats like gating to atlantis just minutes before the shields ran out of power, and collapsed under the weight of the ocean |
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| [03:42:32] | wagnerrp: | they seem to have a pretty good track record for this sort of thing |
| [03:42:33] | KS0FT: | yoyo |
| [03:42:40] | pjcrux: | wagnerrp: don't ruin it I haven't watched it yet! |
| [03:42:50] | KS0FT: | I'm trying to get my new TV Card installed – anyone know of a forum that can assist with this? |
| [03:43:00] | wagnerrp: | im not ruining anything, the plot outline says as much |
| [03:43:21] | wagnerrp: | they evacuate through the gate onto a derelict ship |
| [03:43:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: but a lot luckier than gating in just after the ship becomes unlivable/the shields collapse |
| [03:44:12] | sphery: | KS0FT: Your best bet is likely your distro's wiki/forum/lists... What card did you end up getting this time? |
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| [03:45:51] | wagnerrp: | a politician is really worthless out in the void between galaxies... he needs to die |
| [03:47:49] | mag0o: | s/out in the void between galaxies... he needs to die// |
| [03:47:52] | mag0o: | fixed that for ya |
| [03:48:16] | wagnerrp: | i think you substituted out a bit too much |
| [03:49:47] | mag0o: | when editing metadata for a video in gallery mode, after clicking on 'Done' it 'refreshes' my view, is that by design so that it updates and displays new metadata? |
| [03:50:22] | iamlindoro: | mag0o, you mean sends you back to the root node? |
| [03:50:27] | mag0o: | yeah |
| [03:50:30] | iamlindoro: | update your trunk |
| [03:50:34] | mag0o: | k |
| [03:50:52] | iamlindoro: | I removed the reload because the underlying bug that made it necessary has been fixed |
| [03:51:01] | mag0o: | i must have missed that in commits |
| [03:51:38] | iamlindoro: | 22143 |
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| [03:53:02] | mag0o: | oh, i read it, but it was a few days ago, so i guess i just wasn't paying attention :) |
| [03:53:02] | wagnerrp: | i dont know whether i like this science lead or not |
| [03:53:17] | wagnerrp: | although im certain thats what they want |
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| [03:55:25] | sphery: | wagnerrp: in a year or so--after the DVD's come out--I'll let you know how I like him |
| [03:55:44] | wagnerrp: | you and your principles.... :P |
| [03:55:46] | sphery: | I'm going to go play some more Captain Comic... |
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| [04:07:04] | wagnerrp: | the military lead reminds me a lot of Stallone |
| [04:07:34] | wagnerrp: | the voice, appearance, .... |
| [04:07:40] | iamlindoro: | Heh, he reminds me of Paul Darrow |
| [04:07:45] | iamlindoro: | like, a LOT of Paul Darrow |
| [04:07:57] | ** iamlindoro wonders who in here is old enough to have seen Blake's Seven ** | |
| [04:08:17] | iamlindoro: | http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/j/Paul%20Darrow.jpg |
| [04:08:38] | iamlindoro: | http://tarrantnostra.com/b7lib/images/dwavon.jpg |
| [04:08:44] | wagnerrp: | were you even old enough to have seen Blake's Seven? |
| [04:08:45] | iamlindoro: | Yayyyyyer classic Sci Fi, you know you love it |
| [04:08:58] | iamlindoro: | Yep, used to watch it w/ My mom when I was little :) |
| [04:09:06] | wagnerrp: | like what, three? |
| [04:09:15] | iamlindoro: | And met Paul Darrow at a Sci Fi Con when I was like Six :) |
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| [04:12:21] | Dagmar: | Well, VLC 1.0.2 is sucking _less_ |
| [04:12:21] | wagnerrp: | what is that in his hands? |
| [04:12:32] | Dagmar: | wagnerrp: It's a fusion-powered dildo gun |
| [04:12:48] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Their gun :) |
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| [04:14:17] | wagnerrp: | Dagmar: they might as well call it an orgazmorator |
| [04:14:49] | iamlindoro: | Heh, was awesome |
| [04:14:58] | iamlindoro: | attached by a telephone cord to a pack on their waist |
| [04:15:20] | Dagmar: | Man WTF is up with this evac procedure |
| [04:15:42] | Dagmar: | Did they find the biggest marines they could to throw people through the stargate as if they were trying to pitch them into low earth orbit? |
| [04:16:10] | [R]: | Dagmar: rofl |
| [04:16:32] | Dagmar: | Seriouesly, they'd better explain this bit |
| [04:16:45] | wagnerrp: | well in all honesty, they walked into the other side |
| [04:17:02] | [R]: | dont you remember |
| [04:17:08] | Dagmar: | Yeah but they were comin' out the far end like they ran through at full tilt |
| [04:17:10] | [R]: | how it was at the beginning of sg1 |
| [04:17:14] | [R]: | and how it was the first episode of atlantis |
| [04:17:17] | Dagmar: | I remember them _walking through_ |
| [04:17:23] | Dagmar: | All nice and peaceable like |
| [04:17:26] | wagnerrp: | what i like is when they do show you that, the guy you see walking through at the beginning says 'follow me through one by one on a three count' |
| [04:17:26] | [R]: | if its not calibrated properly or they are going big distances... its not a smooth ride |
| [04:17:34] | Dagmar: | Ahhh |
| [04:17:39] | wagnerrp: | and after he walks through, everyone piles through the gate |
| [04:18:04] | Dagmar: | Yeah on the other shows it's like they're taking a stroll through the park, method of travel making that impossible or not |
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| [04:20:27] | iamlindoro: | Needs more ServaLan |
| [04:20:33] | iamlindoro: | More Slave One! |
| [04:20:38] | iamlindoro: | more Kerr Avon! |
| [04:21:09] | wagnerrp: | wasnt that boba fett's ship? |
| [04:21:24] | ** mag0o really should try watching some of these so called 'geek shows' ** | |
| [04:22:26] | iamlindoro: | Sorry, the computer on Scorpio was just "Slave" |
| [04:22:38] | iamlindoro: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_%28Blake%27s_7%29 |
| [04:22:43] | iamlindoro: | Now *that's* a ship! |
| [04:24:14] | Dagmar: | I like that they got a geek gamer on the recruit list |
| [04:24:29] | Dagmar: | He looked like he was going to wet himself |
| [04:25:00] | wagnerrp: | see above Last Starfighter comment |
| [04:25:15] | Dagmar: | Well, it makes sense |
| [04:25:41] | Dagmar: | Only gamers and insane cryptographers will bang their heads against impossibly complex puzzles for no other reason than an invisible carrot |
| [04:26:30] | Dagmar: | ...and the latter doesn't handle it well when they find out there's no carrot. |
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| [04:39:15] | bsterne: | need help guys, I've searched for this error everywhere and I can't find anything |
| [04:39:19] | bsterne: | http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1590191 |
| [04:39:45] | bsterne: | I didn't change anything that I know of and know video playback doesn't work |
| [04:39:50] | iamlindoro: | erm, you have some sort of bizarre playback wrapper script set up |
| [04:39:54] | iamlindoro: | only you would know about that |
| [04:40:04] | bsterne: | the same command that I have set up for default player works find |
| [04:40:06] | iamlindoro: | erm, no, you don't |
| [04:40:07] | bsterne: | *fine |
| [04:40:15] | iamlindoro: | You have "none" set as youtr player command |
| [04:40:23] | iamlindoro: | or more accurately, "None" |
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| [04:40:35] | bsterne: | I'll look again iamlindoro |
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| [04:41:01] | iamlindoro: | check both the global setting and the setting for the particular extension... |
| [04:41:10] | bsterne: | will do... |
| [04:44:00] | bsterne: | okay, so if I have |none| as the command, but "Use default player" checked, that's not enough? |
| [04:44:34] | iamlindoro: | Having a player command overrides the default player |
| [04:45:01] | bsterne: | but it's empty |
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| [04:45:12] | bsterne: | no whitespace, even |
| [04:45:25] | Dagmar: | *kof*bugreport*kof* |
| [04:45:28] | iamlindoro: | No |
| [04:45:31] | iamlindoro: | Not bugreport |
| [04:45:34] | [R]: | so is the senators daughter the hot chick for the series? |
| [04:45:40] | Dagmar: | [R]: I hope not |
| [04:45:43] | [R]: | haha |
| [04:46:29] | [R]: | oh snap, i'm 1 month older tahn her |
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| [04:52:56] | bsterne: | iamlindoro: I can't find "None" anywhere, I have no idea why that's being used in the command, any thoughts? |
| [04:53:24] | bsterne: | should I change he player command to the same string as the one that's in default? |
| [04:54:16] | bsterne: | I would think the checkmark in "use default player" would override anything, whether or not there is a string in "command" |
| [04:54:32] | bsterne: | but in my case, the string is null |
| [04:54:44] | iamlindoro: | You can, My only thought on the matter is that that the player command stuff has been rewritten in trunk, so I'm not too worried about it |
| [04:55:02] | bsterne: | okay, I'm pretty sure that'll work |
| [04:55:04] | Dagmar: | It should, but if it's fixed in trunk, who cares if it's broken |
| [04:55:15] | bsterne: | that's how I used to have it setup, but this is a reinstall |
| [04:55:34] | bsterne: | okay, thanks |
| [04:57:39] | bsterne: | really, thanks, love everything you guys do for us |
| [05:01:23] | bsterne: | copying the default player string into the various file type commands works, btw |
| [05:02:05] | bsterne: | confused about what changed since I last watched these old videos, but hey... |
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| [05:07:50] | bsterne: | no sentimentality here I suppose :P |
| [05:08:04] | bsterne: | but yeah, thanks |
| [05:08:19] | Dagmar: | Support for octarine was added. |
| [05:08:31] | Dagmar: | So... if you have a really fancy TV you'll get extra colors you didn't have before. |
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| [05:11:33] | bsterne: | g'night |
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| [05:50:23] | iamlindoro: | Gosh, I wish Myth were more like Sage: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2556/3962808562_4d913c803c.jpg |
| [05:51:31] | wagnerrp: | neads moar lens flare |
| [05:51:33] | iamlindoro: | Or you could install the SageMC Add on, which brings... *cough*... "bling" |
| [05:51:34] | iamlindoro: | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/3086337983_1a639acd39_o.jpg |
| [05:52:50] | wagnerrp: | add to queue? |
| [05:52:58] | wagnerrp: | send to? |
| [05:53:13] | wagnerrp: | well the first one, i understand, if perhaps dont understand a need for |
| [05:53:16] | wagnerrp: | but the second? |
| [05:53:38] | iamlindoro: | I just work here, no idea |
| [05:53:56] | Dagmar: | I think it's called the "i r a durty pirate" option |
| [05:54:18] | [R]: | does anyone here have an nvidia ion system? |
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| [07:34:11] | [R]: | ping! pong? |
| [07:34:15] | [R]: | or is it ping? pong! |
| [07:34:16] | [R]: | i forget |
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| [07:36:03] | motd2k: | /boggle |
| [07:36:36] | [R]: | so the one thing i love about being an "adult" and living on my own |
| [07:36:41] | [R]: | if i want to buy something, i'm gonna buy it damnit |
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| [07:37:14] | peque: | Hey Guys. I'm building a MYTHTV box for a friend. but having some problems scanning on Analouge tunercards – the button isn't active – but are enabled under DVB-T scan – How is that – and how do I set up the analouge channels |
| [07:38:01] | wagnerrp: | you cannot scan analog |
| [07:38:13] | wagnerrp: | as analog cards do not return signal strength |
| [07:38:29] | wagnerrp: | the only way you could detect a channel would be to try to scan the video for 'static' |
| [07:38:30] | peque: | OK – thanks |
| [07:38:43] | wagnerrp: | which means you have to grab channels from your listings provider |
| [07:39:06] | wagnerrp: | schedulesdirect (in the US) does that very easily |
| [07:39:12] | wagnerrp: | im not sure the process for xmltv users |
| [07:39:34] | peque: | for static ??? Ok – from the provider – damn – Thanks for the extra info ( normallyh I'm oinly using DVB-S |
| [07:40:22] | wagnerrp: | an analog card will serve frames (or mpeg video if thats the case) whether you have any signal or not |
| [07:40:36] | wagnerrp: | it will just show up as static |
| [07:40:42] | wagnerrp: | white noise on the screen |
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| [07:41:15] | wagnerrp: | it will always return something |
| [07:41:37] | wagnerrp: | while digital cards will actually tell mythtv if it can get a lock (and will not have any mpeg stream to give if it cant) |
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| [07:48:55] | justinh: | I thought analogue scanning was supposed to work |
| [07:49:13] | justinh: | ah but IIRC it's been broken in trunk for a while |
| [07:49:16] | wagnerrp: | i was under the impression analog scanning never worked |
| [07:49:35] | justinh: | I've never done it personally, but I'd heard it was usable |
| [07:50:16] | justinh: | something along the lines of, when channels are found, if VBI data was working it could even pull the channel name from the tuned signal |
| [07:50:33] | justinh: | never seen any documentary evidence of it though :-\ |
| [07:50:39] | justinh: | only hearsay |
| [07:51:38] | [R]: | i've scanned analog cable |
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| [07:53:33] | peque: | I've done it – for some years ago when I started with MythTV, but haven't tried it since – before now |
| [07:53:40] | justinh: | infact maybe it completely relies on VBI data from the tuner actually working. It'd have to analyse the video signal itself otherwise |
| [07:54:10] | [R]: | it knows if there is a signal |
| [07:54:17] | dustybin: | did you know that you can use rsnapshot to do daily system incremental system backups without hardly using any disk space? rsync creates hard links between the unchanged files, and will sync only the changed files for every increment, how cool is that? |
| [07:54:20] | [R]: | tvtime display blue if you tune to a channel that doesnt exist |
| [07:54:39] | wagnerrp: | dustybin: sounds like a fugly hack to me |
| [07:54:50] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: not at all, it works solid |
| [07:54:52] | justinh: | maybe there's a register on the video decoder which tells it it's got a valid signal |
| [07:55:08] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: its rsync |
| [07:55:25] | wagnerrp: | no, its some funky wrapper around rsync |
| [07:55:37] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: rsync can do that on its own! |
| [07:55:41] | justinh: | anyway, there we go. anecdotal evidence analogue scanning worked at one point :P |
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| [07:57:02] | wagnerrp: | dustybin: id rather just leave such matters up to the file system |
| [07:57:13] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: if i needed to restore, i would: boot from some media, partition, format, mount, restore, install boot loader, fix /dev, reboot |
| [07:57:42] | wagnerrp: | see, now look at all that heartache you had to go through |
| [07:57:48] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: save partition info using: sfdisk -d /dev/sda > sda.sfdisk.txt |
| [07:57:51] | clever: | dustybin: what i'm doing for my router, i checked the entire / into svn (non-recursivly) and then added importing things here and there |
| [07:58:01] | clever: | dustybin: and then tar'd the rest(including the .svn's) up |
| [07:58:05] | dustybin: | restore with sfdisk /dev/sda < sda.sfdisk.txt |
| [07:58:05] | wagnerrp: | meanwhile, i would run 'zfs promote filesystem@snapshot' and be done with it |
| [07:58:11] | clever: | so when restoring, i just untar, and svn update |
| [07:59:09] | justinh: | wagnerrp: so much easier to tell people something doesn't work :) |
| [07:59:28] | justinh: | or more to the point, that WE don't support it ;-) |
| [07:59:44] | dustybin: | when i build my new server, i will be using LVM snapshot |
| [08:00:05] | clever: | dustybin: ive used snapshots before, beware |
| [08:00:11] | clever: | dustybin: dont mount filesystems via UUID |
| [08:00:15] | dustybin: | ok |
| [08:00:20] | clever: | the kernel mounted the backup and ran from that:P |
| [08:00:26] | dustybin: | eeek |
| [08:00:38] | clever: | so i had to find out what it changed, and merge those back into the real LV |
| [08:00:47] | clever: | after 2 weeks of using it:P |
| [08:01:09] | justinh: | oh ffs started up my frontend & lirc isn't running again :( |
| [08:01:12] | clever: | lvm is giving you nice static paths for the nodes, use them |
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| [08:01:22] | dustybin: | i am working on finding a perfect backup / restore solution, i have a home box and 2 remote servers what all need backing up |
| [08:01:34] | justinh: | how can a previously working system, with NO changes to the filesystem just start crapping out? |
| [08:01:45] | clever: | dustybin: svn is nice, but it practicaly doubles the disk usage on the 'working copy' |
| [08:01:58] | clever: | justinh: because i touched it?, isnt that what you always say? |
| [08:02:26] | wagnerrp: | clever: it exactly doubles the disk usage on the working copy |
| [08:02:37] | wagnerrp: | it has to have the original of ever file to compare against |
| [08:03:00] | clever: | wagnerrp: yeah, thats why i used -R to make it non-recursive |
| [08:03:01] | justinh: | maybe something is going wrong with the order things run on boot |
| [08:03:10] | clever: | so i could just add small things like /etc and /root |
| [08:03:18] | clever: | then blanket the rest in a giant tar |
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| [08:03:21] | justinh: | like every once in a while somehow my setserial routine is running at the wrong time |
| [08:03:25] | dustybin: | i need: automation, full system / remote backups, a working restore solution, increments |
| [08:03:53] | wagnerrp: | yep... got that |
| [08:03:53] | clever: | dustybin: svn gives me increments, and remote access |
| [08:04:06] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: what do you use? |
| [08:04:29] | justinh: | hmm and if lirc is started after MFE, no lirc in MFE |
| [08:04:34] | justinh: | makes sense I guess |
| [08:04:40] | wagnerrp: | zfs |
| [08:04:54] | clever: | justinh: thats why i have a custom script which starts lirc and then the fe |
| [08:05:01] | dustybin: | oh |
| [08:05:17] | justinh: | yeah I'm thinking that |
| [08:05:29] | justinh: | stinking buntu is notorious for this kind of thing |
| [08:05:40] | dustybin: | znf doesnt exist on linux? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS#Linux |
| [08:05:51] | dustybin: | oh i spelt it wrong |
| [08:06:01] | wagnerrp: | it works through FUSE only |
| [08:06:03] | dustybin: | zfs |
| [08:06:06] | dustybin: | ok |
| [08:06:20] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: sounds like a fugly hack to me |
| [08:06:30] | wagnerrp: | sure, if you use it on linux |
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| [08:07:18] | dustybin: | i really look forward to building a fresh new box |
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| [08:08:17] | dustybin: | im not a great fan of hip-hop, however, this tune kicks ass: deltron 3030 – virus |
| [08:09:56] | wagnerrp: | that almost sounds like porn spam |
| [08:10:23] | wagnerrp: | 'i usually dont like these kinds of sites, but katieonthecam.com is great!' |
| [08:12:24] | justinh: | hmm. can we please have a "daily show – NON SCREAMING EDITION"? Pretty please... |
| [08:13:18] | wagnerrp: | lewis black is still on there? |
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| [08:14:02] | justinh: | audience :( |
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| [08:14:25] | wagnerrp: | ah... yeah, thats even worse than laugh tracks |
| [08:14:55] | wagnerrp: | i dont care if it is filmed in front of a live studio audience, i dont want them telling me what my reactions should be |
| [08:15:37] | justinh: | keep them by all means, just turn the audience level the **** down |
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| [08:17:08] | justinh: | heh. no subtitles either |
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| [08:19:42] | beavis_: | Hi I just updated to 0.22 from 0.21. Now I get an error on DB update frrom 1230 to 1231: Duplicate column name 'default_authority' |
| [08:19:54] | justinh: | well done future boy |
| [08:20:01] | justinh: | there is no 0.22 |
| [08:20:26] | beavis_: | come on justinh I know |
| [08:20:43] | justinh: | so why not just say 'trunk' ? ;-) |
| [08:20:59] | justinh: | calling its name out loud won't make it arrive any faster |
| [08:21:11] | beavis_: | because it's the default version on karmic |
| [08:21:30] | justinh: | sigh. they're packaging it already :-\ |
| [08:21:56] | wagnerrp: | just because some distro naming it as such due to incapability of the package manager to handle it properly, doesnt make it right |
| [08:23:01] | wagnerrp: | if you want to use trunk, you should be compiling on your own from source |
| [08:23:07] | wagnerrp: | if you cant manage that, you shouldnt be running trunk |
| [08:23:53] | justinh: | it would appear that schema 1231 is where default_authority is added |
| [08:24:00] | justinh: | i.e. it's not there before 1230 |
| [08:24:00] | beavis_: | well, back to the issue... there's ticket #6923 "0.21->trunk DB upgrade failed" |
| [08:24:10] | justinh: | yes |
| [08:24:11] | beavis_: | but it was closed as invalid |
| [08:24:29] | justinh: | so how many times has the db upgrade failed so far? |
| [08:24:38] | wagnerrp: | likely because 'default_authority' shouldnt exist prior to 1231 |
| [08:24:51] | wagnerrp: | probably, your upgrade failed once already on some other error |
| [08:25:06] | wagnerrp: | but only after adding the new field |
| [08:25:18] | beavis_: | I just restored the 0.21 db and got the same error again |
| [08:25:21] | justinh: | yeah what he said |
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| [08:26:02] | justinh: | beavis_: so we'll need to see -v database output then |
| [08:26:26] | wagnerrp: | you completely deleted the current database, and restored from scratch? |
| [08:26:32] | justinh: | oh wait. restoring the old db won't necessarily undo the creation of that table ;) |
| [08:26:45] | beavis_: | yes wagnerrp |
| [08:26:57] | beavis_: | mysql < 0.21.sql |
| [08:27:13] | justinh: | after wiping mythconverg? |
| [08:27:27] | wagnerrp: | that was after a 'echo "drop database mythconverg;" | mysql'? |
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| [08:28:09] | beavis_: | okok =) |
| [08:30:56] | beavis_: | Query was: ALTER TABLE channelscan_dtv_multiplex ADD COLUMN default_authority varchar(32) CHARACTER SET utf8 NOT NULL default ''; |
| [08:31:11] | beavis_: | Error was: Driver error was [2/1060]: QMYSQL3: Unable to execute statement Duplicate column name 'default_authority' |
| [08:31:31] | beavis_: | this time without a trace of mythconverg before |
| [08:31:39] | justinh: | oh come now |
| [08:31:44] | justinh: | that shouldn't be possible |
| [08:32:17] | justinh: | ok then. nothing to lose. drop the column from the db yourself & try again |
| [08:32:48] | beavis_: | yes, that could work |
| [08:33:43] | justinh: | you could grep the backup sql just to make sure it doesn't contain default_authority |
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| [08:46:50] | beavis_: | It's not getting any better... now on db version 1234: Query was: INSERT INTO channelgroupnames (grpid, name) VALUES (1, 'Favorites'); |
| [08:46:51] | beavis_: | Duplicate entry '1' for key 'PRIMARY' |
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| [08:47:21] | justinh: | seems to me like your db backup is not what you think it is |
| [08:49:45] | beavis_: | well a default one from 0.21-fixes. Has worked for ages here. Hope I can import "record" and "recorded" at least |
| [08:51:20] | justinh: | best policy is to make your own backup of the database before upgrading |
| [08:51:34] | justinh: | I know mythtvsetup does it, but things can go wrong |
| [08:52:29] | justinh: | on my dev machine I've upgraded a 0.21 database several times now, always without any problems |
| [08:53:26] | justinh: | but then, I'm not using k**tish khameleon |
| [08:54:02] | justinh: | not feeling any love for pre-release distros. Still |
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| [09:21:55] | henkpoley: | For new recording I usually set "keep 7, and delete the oldest when needed" |
| [09:22:03] | henkpoley: | Where can I make that the default? |
| [09:22:44] | henkpoley: | Can't find it in the settings :-/ |
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| [09:33:55] | justinh: | recording options |
| [09:34:10] | justinh: | storage options, within recording options |
| [09:34:27] | justinh: | oh default for everything? not sure you can |
| [09:35:22] | henkpoley: | I mean for new recordings |
| [09:35:30] | henkpoley: | So not override, just the "template" |
| [09:35:38] | justinh: | like I say I don't think you can do that |
| [09:35:50] | henkpoley: | Ah, just making sure you understood ;-) |
| [09:36:06] | henkpoley: | would make adding a new recording much like find -> [OK] |
| [09:36:21] | henkpoley: | Instead of trawling through all the options and missing something |
| [09:40:42] | justinh: | it'd be tricky because not every new recording will be more than a one-off ;) |
| [09:42:09] | henkpoley: | I only record one-off, daily and weekly, the latter tow get the fifo-keep-7 treatment |
| [09:42:33] | henkpoley: | So that's why :-P |
| [09:43:21] | henkpoley: | Ah well, next thing, to see what kind of HD acceleration I can get from my nVidia GeForce 6150 |
| [09:43:41] | wombo: | none |
| [09:44:17] | justinh: | yup. None |
| [09:44:18] | [R]: | well xvmc will work |
| [09:44:23] | [R]: | wont that get him something? |
| [09:44:29] | justinh: | not worth even bothering with xvmc |
| [09:44:32] | [R]: | haha |
| [09:45:04] | henkpoley: | XVMC implies greyscale / 16 colour OSD, isn't it? |
| [09:45:06] | justinh: | if things are so tight a 15% saving makes playback bearable, that should say something |
| [09:45:25] | justinh: | or colour OSD with 0 transparency |
| [09:45:46] | henkpoley: | Then no HD for me probably |
| [09:46:12] | justinh: | there's still no absolute alternative to CPU decoding |
| [09:46:15] | henkpoley: | The system has gotten noisy enough for my taste, no need for extra space heaters in there |
| [09:46:48] | henkpoley: | It has a "AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+" |
| [09:47:03] | [R]: | justinh: what about vdpau? |
| [09:47:07] | henkpoley: | Should be around "enough" for decoding HD |
| [09:47:14] | justinh: | jees if that can't eat its way though high bitrate h.264 there's something up |
| [09:47:25] | henkpoley: | VDPAU is for GeForce 8xxx and higher |
| [09:47:27] | justinh: | [R]: what about it? |
| [09:47:34] | [R]: | justinh: you said there is no alternative |
| [09:47:41] | justinh: | yeah and I stand by that |
| [09:47:47] | justinh: | VDPAU has limitations still |
| [09:48:04] | [R]: | aside from my instability issues... i find its great |
| [09:48:13] | justinh: | like by all accounts still poos its pants with glitchy broadcast content |
| [09:48:24] | [R]: | the 190 drivers are better about that |
| [09:49:01] | justinh: | then again I've seen STBs which actually skip whole sections of really minor glitches |
| [09:49:17] | henkpoley: | ./configure says; XvMC: yes, XvMC VLD: yes, XvMC pro:no, XvMC libs: -lXvMCW, VDPAU support: no |
| [09:49:25] | justinh: | like rather than the picture displaying the odd collection of mangled blocks... |
| [09:49:28] | henkpoley: | Is the 'pro' and libs setting correct? |
| [09:49:37] | justinh: | henkpoley: trunk? |
| [09:49:48] | henkpoley: | yes trunk |
| [09:49:49] | justinh: | you need to specifically *enable* VDPAU in ./configure |
| [09:49:58] | justinh: | see --help |
| [09:50:14] | henkpoley: | My GeForce 6150 does not support VDPAU.. or is there something there for even older GPUs ? |
| [09:50:23] | justinh: | no |
| [09:50:29] | henkpoley: | I seem to remember that you need to copy some nvidia lib over for XVMC, isn't it? |
| [09:50:43] | justinh: | henkpoley: you shouldn't even need any GPU help with that CPU |
| [09:50:53] | justinh: | I mean like ANY |
| [09:51:00] | henkpoley: | Still it skips |
| [09:51:10] | justinh: | using ubuntu? |
| [09:51:15] | henkpoley: | yes, ubuntu |
| [09:51:17] | justinh: | got CPU freq scaling enabled? |
| [09:51:28] | henkpoley: | probably, unless something broke |
| [09:51:30] | justinh: | the scaling algorithm is FUBAR |
| [09:51:34] | justinh: | turn it off |
| [09:51:36] | henkpoley: | drats |
| [09:51:55] | justinh: | the parameters they chose were stupid aparently |
| [09:51:56] | henkpoley: | Does it still do any Q'n'Q magic (voltage regulation) then ? |
| [09:52:27] | justinh: | dunno |
| [09:52:42] | justinh: | just regurgitating what I've seen reported ;) |
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| [09:55:57] | henkpoley: | $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor --> performance |
| [09:56:01] | henkpoley: | hick hick hick |
| [09:58:11] | henkpoley: | Is there a way for the frontend to display the video resolution ('i' isn't it) |
| [09:58:30] | justinh: | don't think so |
| [09:58:32] | henkpoley: | My TV receives 1080p from the PC at least |
| [09:58:46] | henkpoley: | Just wanted to check if any scaling is going on |
| [09:59:18] | justinh: | unless you set myth to use different video modes it'll display video scaled to the current X res |
| [10:00:00] | henkpoley: | CPU usage by MythFrontend is floating around 107%, normal? |
| [10:00:15] | justinh: | doing what? |
| [10:00:27] | henkpoley: | displaying LiveTV HD |
| [10:00:59] | justinh: | mpeg2 HD? |
| [10:01:16] | henkpoley: | Any way to find out? I believe so.. |
| [10:01:30] | justinh: | you don't know? ffs |
| [10:01:38] | justinh: | in the USA? |
| [10:01:50] | justinh: | then yes it'll be mpeg2 unless you're using a HDPVR |
| [10:02:28] | henkpoley: | EU, netherlands |
| [10:02:36] | henkpoley: | DVB-C |
| [10:02:42] | justinh: | chances are it's h.264 |
| [10:02:55] | henkpoley: | That's why I wasn't so sure :-P |
| [10:02:56] | justinh: | for best results, enable multithreaded playback |
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| [10:03:14] | henkpoley: | Where ? ;-) |
| [10:03:23] | henkpoley: | I'll go thrawling through the menus |
| [10:03:24] | justinh: | that setting is in video playback profiles within utils/setup > setup > tv settings > playback |
| [10:04:26] | henkpoley: | 'realtime priority threads' needs `chmod +s` isn't it? |
| [10:05:10] | justinh: | that isn't what I said |
| [10:05:16] | henkpoley: | Not found there, will go through the menus again |
| [10:05:17] | henkpoley: | I know |
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| [10:06:15] | justinh: | you need to have 'max CPUs' set to > 1 in a video playback profile |
| [10:06:21] | henkpoley: | Ah, I need to enter each entry for the playback profiles |
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| [10:09:10] | henkpoley: | Hmm, no improvement, about the sam CPU usage. Let's try again, and watch the vdpau/quartz filters (don't think I have nay of those) |
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| [10:09:38] | justinh: | wtf? those have nothing to do with you |
| [10:09:46] | justinh: | quartz is a Mac thing |
| [10:11:36] | henkpoley: | Yes, when you go through the "current profile" pulldown-box, the "high quality" option adds filters that mention quartz |
| [10:11:56] | henkpoley: | I am aware that quartz(extreme) is from Mac OS X |
| [10:12:34] | henkpoley: | Even the "normal" profile has a quartz entry btw.. |
| [10:14:10] | justinh: | yes OPTIONS to use Quartz |
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| [10:44:39] | henkpoley: | Hmm, apparently something is broken with h.264 and multi-threaded decoding: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6986 |
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| [11:00:38] | henkpoley: | patch doesn't help |
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| [11:16:48] | motd2k: | ASDFGHJKL;'\ |
| [11:17:18] | simonckenyon: | so that means there is no way to have mythvideo play .iso files in a windows env |
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| [11:30:05] | mzb: | simonckenyon, I find that hard to believe, given that it's possible to set a custom command per extension ... etc |
| [11:30:42] | mzb: | but I'm not afflicted by windows, so ymmv |
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| [11:38:36] | gbee: | any news about Nvidia supporting KMS in their driver? |
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| [12:21:43] | ** mzb continues to be distracted by the idea of being able to brighten lights and the end of watching a movie ** | |
| [12:22:25] | mzb: | is there a *nice* way of running a "post" script at when a watching a recording ? |
| [12:22:47] | mzb: | a/and the/at the |
| [12:25:54] | simonckenyon: | mzb: but the full path name is stored in the db. so my linux BE has /foo/bar/baz.iso and windows needs \\be\foo\bar\baz.iso |
| [12:29:21] | mzb: | I'll assume two things (that may not be related):1. you're not running trunk, and/or 1) you don't have the videos locally mounted. |
| [12:29:24] | mzb: | but as I said, I'm not encumbered by microsoft-related issues |
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| [13:05:10] | simonckenyon: | mzb: i am running trunk and i don't have the videos mounted locally because i'm trying to use storage groups |
| [13:06:22] | simonckenyon: | it is a known problem (i found out this morning) |
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| [13:10:39] | sphery: | simonckenyon: btw, with a creative use of tar and about 440MB (195MB bzip2 compressed), you could modify your build script to give you the benefits of a clean checkout each time without the bandwidth usage. I.e. svn co one time, then tar the directory, then use it, then next time, rm -rf && tar xf ... && svn up ... && tar cf |
| [13:14:58] | ** mzb puts more bandwidth in his pipe and smokes it ** | |
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| [13:19:28] | PhoenixMage: | Hey guys |
| [13:20:32] | PhoenixMage: | I am running trunk and after recording a show when I try to play it back I get the following in my mythbackend log "2009-10–03 23:04:23.627 ProgramInfo, Error: GetPlaybackURL: '1010_20091002183000.mpg' should be local, but it can not be found. |
| [13:20:33] | PhoenixMage: | 2009-10–03 23:04:23.628 Preview Error: Run() file not local: '1010_20091002183000.mpg'" |
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| [13:20:56] | PhoenixMage: | Any idea why? |
| [13:21:08] | PhoenixMage: | The drive is mounted and the file definately exists |
| [13:21:26] | sphery: | PhoenixMage: 1 or 2 hosts? |
| [13:21:46] | sphery: | is this playing it back from a combined frontend/backend system or a remote frontend? |
| [13:21:58] | PhoenixMage: | Remote frontend |
| [13:22:11] | sphery: | NFS mounted recordings directory on the frontend? |
| [13:22:50] | PhoenixMage: | I didnt think you had to mount NFS for TV playback in trunk |
| [13:23:03] | PhoenixMage: | And its the backend that is throwing the error |
| [13:23:08] | sphery: | don't have to, but if you did, you need to change how you're doing it? |
| [13:23:15] | sphery: | /?/d |
| [13:23:17] | mzb: | "always stream from backend" ? |
| [13:23:19] | simonckenyon: | sphery: i do an svn co into trunk and then tar mythtv, et al across to the build directories. i only download the changes. i so basically do what you suggest (i think). so no wasted bandwidth. just a complete rebuild every time. and that is my CPU to waste. i would not waste the bandwidth on svn.mythtv.org |
| [13:23:54] | sphery: | if you do an svn co each time, you're downloading all of Myth |
| [13:24:07] | simonckenyon: | svn co does not do a complete checkout if it finds that it is already there |
| [13:24:17] | simonckenyon: | i've treble checked |
| [13:24:48] | simonckenyon: | i used to think that i had to do svn update; but that is not necessary |
| [13:25:28] | simonckenyon: | anyway – if you don't believe me – try it yourself |
| [13:25:46] | PhoenixMage: | sphery: so what do I have to get the remote frontend to stream from the backend? |
| [13:26:02] | simonckenyon: | turn on streaming in the ui |
| [13:26:33] | simonckenyon: | back to my painting :-( |
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| [13:26:57] | PhoenixMage: | simonckenyon: In this instance I am trying to stream through the web interfavce |
| [13:27:03] | PhoenixMage: | mythweb |
| [13:27:12] | sphery: | PhoenixMage: you need to tell me how you have your system configured (i.e. answer the questions I asked :) |
| [13:27:27] | sphery: | NFS mounted recordings directory on the frontend? |
| [13:27:40] | sphery: | different requirements depending on how you're configured |
| [13:27:40] | PhoenixMage: | No, I have no NFS installation |
| [13:28:20] | sphery: | then chances are you have some invalid hostname/IP Address configuration in Myth... I'm guessing you used 127.0.0.1 or localhost somewhere in the configuration. |
| [13:28:24] | PhoenixMage: | I am running mythbackend on one box and trying to click on the stream in mythweb on another box |
| [13:29:00] | PhoenixMage: | I will triple check but I am 99.9% sure I havent |
| [13:29:02] | sphery: | oh, IIRC, mythweb requires local access to the files. |
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| [13:30:26] | PhoenixMage: | But why would the error be in my mythbackend log? |
| [13:31:05] | exze: | hi all |
| [13:31:16] | sphery: | that would be from some other interaction |
| [13:31:30] | sphery: | or due to having an incorrect time zone specified in MythWeb |
| [13:31:36] | sphery: | is it 0.21-fixes |
| [13:33:09] | PhoenixMage: | No its trunk |
| [13:33:26] | PhoenixMage: | Timezone is set correctly in php.ini |
| [13:33:26] | sphery: | then time zone shouldn't be an issue |
| [13:33:43] | exze: | i hope that some one could help me i cant fix my problem, i have a happauge TD-T-500 card and i get it to search channels with "scan" but mythtv dosent find my card?? |
| [13:35:58] | sphery: | PhoenixMage: I dont' know what's causing that error in the backend log. But, test playback with mythfrontend. If that works, then all you need to do is NFS mount your recordings directories to your MythWeb host and you should be good. |
| [13:37:03] | sphery: | exze: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI |
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| [13:37:49] | exze: | been reading that page but dosent find a answer to my problem |
| [13:38:15] | sphery: | Is it the 68109 Model ("As such the only known issues with this card in recent distributions of Linux is with a particular batch of cards that only worked successfully in Windows/Intel based systems..." |
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| [13:40:31] | exze: | a have been using the card with mythbuntu 9.04, but i did a reinstall of the system and cant get it to work again |
| [13:40:48] | sphery: | still 9.04? |
| [13:41:34] | exze: | have tested 9.04 now i have 9.10 beta but same problem |
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| [13:45:21] | sphery: | exze: I'd recommend asking in the Ubuntu channel or perhaps #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [13:46:00] | justinh: | exze: there are now two versions of the nova td-500 |
| [13:46:19] | justinh: | one which came out just after the original nova t-500 which will NOT work in linux at all |
| [13:46:28] | justinh: | but there's a newer one which will work apparently |
| [13:46:48] | justinh: | chances are you should ask in #linuxtv |
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| [13:47:29] | justinh: | cos general purpose ubuntu irc channels don't actually hold much use for tv tuner card users ;) |
| [13:47:35] | exze: | justinh > the card have been working in linux for me so it should be the never one |
| [13:47:45] | exze: | :) |
| [13:47:46] | justinh: | your problem is probably just lacking driver modules |
| [13:48:14] | justinh: | how anybody could forget how they had to build modules from the hg repository of linuxtv.org is anybody's guess ;) |
| [13:48:25] | exze: | why does "scan" command work? the card must be loaded then right? |
| [13:48:56] | justinh: | so what is your definition of 'does not work' ? |
| [13:49:26] | PhoenixMage: | sphery: still no joy with mythfrontend |
| [13:49:29] | justinh: | if stuff like 'scan' works then I'd bet the card works |
| [13:49:31] | PhoenixMage: | "2009-10–03 23:47:20.769 Preview Error: Run() file not local: '/GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/hyperion/1010_20091002183000.mpg'& quot; |
| [13:49:44] | exze: | i get the error under frontend id: could not get card info |
| [13:49:51] | justinh: | if you're not able to scan for channels in mythtv etc, chances are it's a group membership problem |
| [13:49:56] | exze: | and i cant scan within mythtv |
| [13:50:05] | sphery: | PhoenixMage: check your storage groups configuration (in mythtv-setup) and filesystem permissions carefully |
| [13:50:10] | justinh: | so dvb-utils scan does work or doesn't work? |
| [13:50:16] | justinh: | maybe you just forgot the firmware |
| [13:50:18] | exze: | works |
| [13:50:26] | justinh: | permissions issues then |
| [13:50:58] | exze: | with mythtv ? |
| [13:50:59] | justinh: | that or mythbackend is still running when you run mythtv-setup |
| [13:51:22] | justinh: | that being the case, you shouldn't be using mythtv if you can't read the warnings onscreen :P |
| [13:53:12] | justinh: | is the 'mythtv' user a member of the 'video' group? |
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| [13:58:09] | exze: | yes itÅ› is |
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| [14:02:43] | exze: | thanks i try another channels bye |
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| [14:14:00] | clmntch: | hello |
| [14:14:11] | sphery: | hello |
| [14:14:27] | clmntch: | i've been using mythtv for like 4 years now |
| [14:14:32] | clmntch: | and i have to say it is awesome |
| [14:14:51] | sphery: | agreed |
| [14:15:05] | simonckenyon: | but |
| [14:15:10] | clmntch: | i just recently purchased a hd-pvr, and i've got it working and all |
| [14:15:13] | clmntch: | no buts |
| [14:15:37] | clmntch: | i just wanted to know what i need to do to get it to change to the hd channels |
| [14:15:54] | clmntch: | i have directv stb==h20 |
| [14:16:07] | clmntch: | i downloaded the recent directv.pl |
| [14:16:28] | clmntch: | but when i switch channels, it only goes to the standard definition channels |
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| [14:17:40] | sphery: | clmntch: I'm guessing you have an analog standard-def capture card you're also using and you're sharing a video source for the SDTV and HDTV capture cards? |
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| [14:19:43] | clmntch: | no, i removed the standard-def capture card |
| [14:19:47] | clmntch: | i have an hdpvr |
| [14:19:56] | clmntch: | and i'm using mythtv-trunk from svn |
| [14:20:13] | clmntch: | i had 2 haup150's |
| [14:20:23] | clmntch: | but now i'm just using the hd-pvr |
| [14:21:37] | sphery: | did you make a new video source that includes (just) the HDTV (version of the) channels? |
| [14:21:55] | clmntch: | hrm |
| [14:22:01] | clmntch: | no, i will have to try that |
| [14:22:08] | clmntch: | currently my video source has both |
| [14:22:24] | clmntch: | example: i have a listing for "Fox" and "Fox HD" |
| [14:22:31] | sphery: | it should work that way |
| [14:22:37] | sphery: | especially if they have different callsigns |
| [14:22:46] | clmntch: | who do i check the callsign? |
| [14:23:04] | sphery: | you just have to ensure your channel change script is getting the right frequency ID |
| [14:23:19] | sphery: | callsign and frequency ID are editable in the mythtv-setup or MythWeb channel editor |
| [14:23:48] | sphery: | frequency ID != channel number (i.e. they're different fields), but in your case, you'll want to use the channel number for freqid |
| [14:24:02] | clmntch: | okay |
| [14:24:04] | sphery: | so you should have a different freqid for Fox and Fox HD |
| [14:24:17] | sphery: | those /should/ all be right, though if you set things up correctly |
| [14:24:30] | sphery: | however, you may be missing the HDTV channels in your video source |
| [14:24:58] | sphery: | due to the fact that mythfilldatabase tries to ignore ATSC channels for analog sources (don't know if that's true of HD-PVR, though) |
| [14:25:50] | clmntch: | okay, that is a lot for now... let me look |
| [14:26:03] | sphery: | if so, you need to a) make sure the channels are in your Schedules Direct lineup, then b) run mythfilldatabase --do-not-filter-new-channels |
| [14:26:52] | clmntch: | do i run that mythfilldatabase w/ that option once, or do i need to add that option to the daily cron job??? |
| [14:27:03] | sphery: | once |
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| [14:28:38] | sphery: | technically, it should be mythfilldatabase --only-update-channels --do-not-filter-new-channels (and, maybe also --do-channel-updates --see the mythfilldatabase --help output) |
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| [14:29:25] | sphery: | clmntch: and, really, you shouldn't be using a cron job for mythfilldatabase if you're using Schedules Direct. You should set up the backend to call mythfilldatabase according to the provider's suggested time |
| [14:29:44] | justinh: | depends whose blog he read which suggested that ;) |
| [14:30:03] | clmntch: | sphery: that is what i'm doing actually, it seems like saying 'cron job' was the shorter way of saying |
| [14:30:06] | clmntch: | it |
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| [14:30:43] | sphery: | ah, yeah |
| [14:30:52] | sphery: | just making sure :) |
| [14:31:58] | clmntch: | the callsigns are different |
| [14:32:15] | clmntch: | i didn't see a frequency |
| [14:32:46] | sphery: | freqid is on page 2 of the channel settings |
| [14:33:13] | sphery: | So, I'm also assuming you have the Fox HD (and other HD) channel(s) in there? |
| [14:33:19] | clmntch: | yes |
| [14:33:39] | sphery: | and how are you attempting to change channels |
| [14:34:07] | clmntch: | with the guide |
| [14:34:28] | mchou: | come on man |
| [14:34:31] | sphery: | hmmm... in that case, I'd guess it's a channel-change-script issue |
| [14:34:31] | clmntch: | i have a serial-usb interface to the stb, and i'm using directv.pl |
| [14:34:32] | hume: | hi.. I have some problems with mythgallery – when scrolling through folders and pictures there are items outside of the screen – anyone knows if there is a way to adjust how many rows and columns it shows? |
| [14:34:38] | mchou: | read the docs |
| [14:35:05] | clmntch: | mchou: i've obviously rtfm, and that is why i'm here |
| [14:35:16] | sphery: | hume: only by changing the theme |
| [14:35:48] | clmntch: | mchou: if you don't like people asking quesitons in the #*-users channels, don't join them |
| [14:35:53] | hume: | sphery, ok....that's too bad.....hrm |
| [14:35:55] | sphery: | hume: if you're using trunk, all of the new ("fancy") themes are designed for TV's/monitors that don't overscan |
| [14:35:57] | mchou: | clmntch: nom if you read the docs you would have known to add HDTV channels once you got your HD-PVR installed |
| [14:36:25] | clmntch: | mchou: if you have been reading, i have added them! |
| [14:36:30] | sphery: | hume: so you'll need to change your TV/video card/myth window size so that Myth isn't overscanned |
| [14:36:50] | clmntch: | my problem is that i can't switch to them |
| [14:37:02] | hume: | sphery, i don't think this is about overscanning, I mean, there are 6 folders in a row and then seems to be 2 outside of the screen.... |
| [14:37:11] | mchou: | clmntch: dont be a retard. no one here should have to tell you that had you read the docs |
| [14:37:25] | sphery: | hume: -fixes or trunk? |
| [14:37:31] | mchou: | clmntch: you only added them after sphery told you to |
| [14:37:46] | sphery: | no, he had them |
| [14:37:47] | hume: | sphery, don't know what you mean, mythbuntu jaunty installation.... |
| [14:37:50] | clmntch: | mchou: no i had them before that, i just checked to see if they were right! |
| [14:37:51] | sphery: | I just started with the basics |
| [14:37:59] | mchou: | clmntch: and no you buzz on about "frequencies" |
| [14:38:07] | mchou: | now* |
| [14:38:09] | sphery: | hume: jaunty = 9.04? |
| [14:38:14] | hume: | sphery, yes |
| [14:38:27] | mchou: | it's a STB for Christ's sake! |
| [14:38:32] | clmntch: | mchou: are you going to help, or be an ass? |
| [14:38:37] | hume: | sphery, means mythtv 0.21, not 0.22 |
| [14:39:19] | mchou: | clmntch: you can't be helped if you dont use your brain |
| [14:39:21] | sphery: | hume: is it only mythgallery? Not the menus, etc? |
| [14:40:07] | hume: | sphery, only mythgallery, that is, I don't use this kind of view for videos... all else is working greatly |
| [14:41:15] | RDV_Linux: | clmntch: Have you tried to test the channel change script independent of MythTV (from the command line)? At least eliminate that from the equation. |
| [14:42:35] | sphery: | hume: I'd have to guess a broken theme. Might want to try changing themes. Also, might want to run: mythfrontend -geometry 800x600 (just to see if it's all shown on a window that's smaller than your screen) |
| [14:42:58] | hume: | ok....I'll try, thx |
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| [14:43:35] | clmntch: | RDV_Linux: i thought so, but let me try again... |
| [14:45:06] | RDV_Linux: | clmntch: Of course test that it changes to one of your STB's HD stations ;) |
| [14:45:48] | clmntch: | when i do it from the command, it changes to the sd stations too |
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| [14:48:31] | RDV_Linux: | clmntch: It would seem that you at least need to resolve the channel change script issue first. |
| [14:49:15] | sphery: | clmntch: is there a difference between the SDTV and HDTV channel numbers? I.e. HDTV ones are 4-digits and SDTV ones are 3? |
| [14:49:22] | clmntch: | no |
| [14:49:29] | clmntch: | and i think that is my problem now |
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| [14:50:10] | clmntch: | i just looked at my schedules direct listing, and it gives the same channel numbers for the sd/hd channels |
| [14:50:15] | sphery: | well, the "channel number" myth sends to the script is the value in frequency ID (page 2 of the channel settings--i.e. have to hit Next to see it) |
| [14:50:30] | sphery: | so just edit your freqid's to provide the right one |
| [14:50:32] | clmntch: | that was going to my next question |
| [14:50:46] | sphery: | where "right one" may actually mean looking at the DirecTV website. |
| [14:50:54] | clmntch: | and the question after that, is how do i figure out the correct channel freqid |
| [14:51:00] | sphery: | also make /very/ sure you've selected the right lineup from Schedules Direct |
| [14:51:10] | clmntch: | sphery: i just did that |
| [14:51:25] | clmntch: | and it has the same hd/sd channel #'s |
| [14:51:27] | sphery: | right lineup meaning right provider? |
| [14:51:31] | clmntch: | yes |
| [14:51:40] | clmntch: | there is only 1 directtv provider for my area |
| [14:51:44] | sphery: | for cable they often have a different provider for standard def and high-def |
| [14:51:47] | sphery: | ok |
| [14:51:56] | sphery: | I haven't done satellite for years, so I wasn't sure |
| [14:52:14] | clmntch: | that's okay, you guys have been very very help full |
| [14:52:18] | sphery: | (and mine was, obviously--as it was years ago--SDTV only) |
| [14:52:29] | clmntch: | that's what i'm switching from |
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| [14:52:43] | clmntch: | football season forced me to go ahead and switch to HD |
| [14:52:53] | sphery: | yeah, once you get the right freqid's, you should be good |
| [14:53:03] | clmntch: | i've got the sunday ticket, and i can't wait to sit in my undies all day tomorrow |
| [14:53:16] | sphery: | TMI... |
| [14:53:47] | clmntch: | thank you, i've got enough for now, i'll logback in later to post what i had to do |
| [14:54:04] | sphery: | anyway, whatever channel number you use to change to that channel directly with the remote should be the same one for the script |
| [14:56:24] | Penth: | Well, my first recording test went well last night, got Dollhouse, but it doesn't show up in my recordings – only as a file on the hard drive. The only things I have in Recordings are live captures. Is this a config file error or a database problem? |
| [14:57:09] | sphery: | Penth: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . ecordings.3F |
| [14:57:56] | Penth: | There's no filter. This is a virgin setup |
| [14:58:45] | sphery: | if it's showing your LiveTV, it's filtered |
| [14:59:39] | sphery: | If it's not the Group Filter, go into Watch Recordings, MENU|Change Group View| and select the right stuff |
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| [15:01:34] | Penth: | Yep, that's what it was. (Doh.) Thanks! |
| [15:01:51] | sphery: | enjoy |
| [15:02:32] | Penth: | We will :) |
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| [15:06:44] | ExElNeT: | heya. i have got this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mythvideo/+bug/339880 so i changed the ids. but if i try to enter an id i cant confirm it... cant press enter... any idea? |
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| [15:07:36] | sphery: | ExElNeT: that's a broken theme |
| [15:07:57] | sphery: | ExElNeT: you'll either have to fix the theme or change to a different theme |
| [15:09:05] | sphery: | ExElNeT: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 12777#312777 |
| [15:12:20] | ExElNeT: | ah ok, thanks... |
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| [15:22:10] | ExElNeT: | sphery: well i tried another one... still no luck, maybe i messed up my remote config... i enter the number with my remote and press ok, but then will the keyboard popup... |
| [15:23:52] | abqjp: | clmntch, also make sure you have "hide sd duplicates" turned on, in the H20. |
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| [15:26:26] | sphery: | ExElNeT: I think you have to actually scroll to the OK button (or whatever it's labeled) |
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| [15:39:49] | dustybin: | my backup system is excellent, rsnapshot takes a snaphot of my system every 4 hours, then at the end of the day it will create a daily snapshot |
| [15:40:34] | Crypia: | Hello – which table in mythconverge defines which show each recording file is? For instance, it would show that 1101_20090929190000.mpg is Squidbillies... |
| [15:40:55] | justinh: | why would you need to know that? |
| [15:40:57] | sphery: | why do you want to know? |
| [15:41:23] | sphery: | you can use something like mythrename.pl --link to create a directory of links with human-readable filename so you can find files |
| [15:41:35] | Crypia: | sphery: My Grandma was asking me |
| [15:41:42] | cesman: | lol |
| [15:41:53] | cesman: | good ole Grandma |
| [15:42:30] | justinh: | mythrename.pl --link $symlinkdir will make a series of human-readable links in $symlinkdir |
| [15:42:50] | sphery: | mythrename.pl --link /path/to/directory/for/view --format '%T/%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S' --separator '-' --replacement '_' |
| [15:42:56] | sphery: | is what I use |
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| [15:43:59] | sphery: | (actually, though, I run it 5 times with formats '%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%T-%S' , '%T/%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S' , '%U-%T-%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S' , '%C-%T-%Y%m%d-%H%i-%eH%ei-%S' , '%T-%oY%om%od-%S' to give me views sorted by time, title, recording group, category, original airdate, respectively |
| [15:44:08] | mchou: | that grandma excuse is a pretty good one |
| [15:44:13] | justinh: | we always strongly discourage uses from messing with the database directly, for reasons which should be obvious |
| [15:44:17] | justinh: | *users |
| [15:44:24] | mchou: | absolves users of all sins |
| [15:45:27] | sphery: | yeah, for reasons like my having to spend 10's of hours working on a way to get people's broken 0.21-fixes DB's to upgrade to trunk's format... |
| [15:45:27] | Crypia: | thanks sphery and justinh – I'm just trying to understand the db better |
| [15:45:33] | sphery: | (which is what I'm currently working on) |
| [15:46:09] | justinh: | sphery: if they were daft enough to hack HDPVR support into 0.21 they got what was coming to em ;-) |
| [15:46:28] | sphery: | Crypia: the most important thing to understand about the DB is that /all/ data integrity checks are in the application and /none/ are in the DB |
| [15:47:08] | jblack: | wow, really? Doesn't mysql offer constraints? |
| [15:47:11] | sphery: | so direct editing of the DB is /very/ dangerous unless you fully understand the requirements of all the data and how it's related to other data in the DB... |
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| [15:47:59] | sphery: | jblack: only for some storage types (like InnoDB), so since we don't force a specific engine (and since until recently we were supporting mysql 3.23+), we don't use DB constraints |
| [15:48:09] | Crypia: | sphery: roger that, thanks for the heads up |
| [15:48:39] | jblack: | Ahhh, myth predates the addition on constraints to mysql. that makes sense. |
| [15:49:40] | sphery: | yeah, and most users have MyISAM tables, not InnoDB, so... |
| [15:49:49] | sphery: | once we embed the DB, we'll have more options |
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| [15:49:56] | sphery: | embedded MySQL ftw!!! |
| [15:50:07] | djtoast: | Hi all, |
| [15:50:10] | jblack: | bleh. generic db engine ftw! :) |
| [15:50:32] | sphery: | yeah, not worth it |
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| [15:50:50] | sphery: | generic SQL is /far/ too constrained--we'd be reimplementing much of the DB's functionality in Myth |
| [15:50:50] | jblack: | Not for any existing install, yeah, not worth it. |
| [15:51:47] | jblack: | Some day, I'm gonna be able to pull the codebase for myth and start working on it. breaking things out so that postgresql becomes an option would be high on my plate |
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| [15:52:08] | djtoast: | Do we have native support of Blu ray now ... its very hard to get some info as most of it on the net dates from 2008.. |
| [15:52:27] | laga: | we don't |
| [15:52:45] | sphery: | yeah, where we = GNU/Linux |
| [15:53:04] | jblack: | Yeah. I don't think it's been reliably broken yet, like css has |
| [15:53:08] | laga: | RMS would be proud of you ;) |
| [15:53:14] | laga: | BSD/Linux neither |
| [15:53:26] | laga: | nor GNU/BSD |
| [15:53:28] | sphery: | and, the whole having to hack the encryption (which falls afoul of many countries' laws) is a big part of the slowdown |
| [15:53:32] | djtoast: | thats too bad this blu ray stuff would be so nice |
| [15:53:44] | jblack: | well, get to it, then! |
| [15:53:49] | djtoast: | i canned all my windows boxes1 year.. |
| [15:53:53] | djtoast: | ago |
| [15:54:01] | sphery: | laga: heh, yeah, I guess I could have said, where we = GNU |
| [15:54:43] | djtoast: | is mythtv portable to windows? |
| [15:54:44] | sphery: | djtoast: if the content producers wanted you to have access to their content, you'd have access... You don't want to upset Sony/Time Warner/MGM/..., now do you? |
| [15:55:35] | sphery: | Portable as in, "Could one day be ported properly"? If so, then yeah. If you mean, "Has it been ported," then "Yeah, kind of." |
| [15:56:09] | djtoast: | sphery: understand, they can be upset if they want to.. i buy blu rays, and my reader died and wanted to build a new htpc |
| [15:56:12] | sphery: | though GNU/Linux is still the preferred/best-supported option |
| [15:56:17] | jblack: | Yeah. what blue-ray needs is a bored, genius, doesn't know better 18 year old with nothing to do |
| [15:56:37] | sphery: | jblack: for the rest of his life? |
| [15:56:44] | sphery: | as they change keys/encryption/... |
| [15:57:02] | sphery: | it's not a single-size fits all encryption, like DVD |
| [15:57:07] | jblack: | Ok, super genius, that just blows the doors off the hinges, rather than picking the lock. :P |
| [15:57:50] | sphery: | that might work |
| [15:58:08] | djtoast: | anyways if its not possible its not :). Id be willing to buy the codec as long as it would be reasonable. |
| [15:58:17] | sphery: | AnyDVD HD is taking the latter approach, though |
| [15:58:27] | sphery: | picking each new lock they make |
| [15:58:41] | djtoast: | on another note.. i have a 1000$ budget to build htpc. any recomendations on hardware? |
| [15:58:44] | jblack: | djtoast: You're not gonna get the codec to do what you want. |
| [15:59:09] | djtoast: | jblack: understand :) |
| [15:59:18] | jblack: | the only way you'd get the codec is the cablecard sort of way, where your capability has been stripped down so much that it's pointless anyways. |
| [16:00:09] | sphery: | or the STB way |
| [16:00:21] | clever: | sphery: you would have to fully emulate a hardware blu-ray player |
| [16:00:23] | sphery: | i.e. get a STB Blu-Ray player--or a PS3 |
| [16:00:33] | clever: | enough that you can accept the key updates on new disks |
| [16:00:38] | simonckenyon: | when you go into create a new storage group, the line that is highlighted is the one *below* the "add". is this a bug? |
| [16:00:48] | clever: | so there only choice is to totaly nuke the entire line of players |
| [16:00:54] | mchou: | djtoast: $1000? I dont think you need anywhere near that much |
| [16:01:01] | jblack: | Just don't buy blue-ray. |
| [16:01:05] | jblack: | Problem solved. |
| [16:01:08] | sphery: | simonckenyon: I don't think so, but it is confusing--especially on themes where the highlight isn't that high of a light |
| [16:01:16] | clever: | jblack: then you wont get hd:P |
| [16:01:35] | sphery: | simonckenyon: I'll look into it (maybe later today) and see if it is a bug, or if not, see if I can convince the author to allow me to switch it |
| [16:01:35] | simonckenyon: | sphery: thanks – and you are right – it is confusing |
| [16:01:55] | mchou: | djtoast: $100.00 gets you some very good NMT these days |
| [16:02:03] | jblack: | clever: Serving me hd is like serving me a ground filet mignon burger. Just a waste |
| [16:02:09] | djtoast: | mchou: thats my budget, I have the tuner card alreday.. just wondering what i should get in terms of MB, CPU, MEM, |
| [16:02:13] | mchou: | djtoast: seriously, look into them |
| [16:02:31] | clever: | jblack: then get a better tv :P |
| [16:02:46] | jblack: | My tv does 720p. |
| [16:02:46] | djtoast: | mchou: whats an NMT? |
| [16:02:54] | mchou: | djtoast: google ASUS O!Play (as an example) |
| [16:03:04] | simonckenyon: | the atom 330 zotan/ion mb might be worth considering |
| [16:03:21] | jblack: | And I do hd ota. However, I transcode things down so much, that I'd probably make sphery cry. |
| [16:03:43] | jblack: | ~ .14gb / hour |
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| [16:04:01] | clever: | thats even less then i transcode to!!! |
| [16:04:07] | clever: | i aim for ~500mb/h |
| [16:04:07] | mchou: | djtoast: HTPCs are no longer competitive. A media server, on the other hand, is still de rigeur |
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| [16:04:35] | djtoast: | mchou: whats would u use for recording of tv, storing media, etc |
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| [16:04:46] | jblack: | Hah. I'm doing about 72% better than you. :) |
| [16:05:00] | djtoast: | mchou: I need something that looks good on a 106in tv |
| [16:05:02] | mchou: | djtoast: what are you referring to? |
| [16:05:24] | jst_home_: | simonckenyon: the 230 zotac/ion mb is the way to go, no fan needed |
| [16:06:06] | mchou: | djtoast: hw NMTs blows the pants off any HTPC in terms of picture quality |
| [16:06:14] | djtoast: | mchou: I want to build a PVR for my cenema, I wanted to included the bluray playing feture but unless i go with windows it doesnt seem possible. So im thinking ill buys a regular blu ray player but id still like to record tv, |
| [16:07:09] | djtoast: | I currently have Mythtv installed that i used quite a bit to share tv bettween all my computers. NMT would be nice to add the features to other tvs.. |
| [16:07:17] | mchou: | djtoast: I already told you how to go about that. Build a (cheap) mythbackend, get as many NMTs as you need |
| [16:07:38] | justinh: | NMT? |
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| [16:07:47] | djtoast: | mchou: Oh well thats what im wondering , Mythbackend, what type of HW :) |
| [16:07:56] | simonckenyon: | jst_home_: i have my little asus 900 (albeit with a 900MHz mobile chip) and it is just a little slow for my liking. hence the atom 330. but i might give the 230 a lash |
| [16:08:09] | mchou: | mythbacjkend doesnt require the lastest HW |
| [16:08:16] | mchou: | latest* |
| [16:08:32] | djtoast: | I have a dual tuner currently, but planning for HD-PVR |
| [16:08:40] | jst_home_: | simonckenyon: the 330 isn't any "faster", just one more core which doesn't really help a FE |
| [16:08:49] | mchou: | the most expensive thing in mythbe should be drives |
| [16:09:22] | justinh: | it helps XBMC suck less :) |
| [16:09:40] | clever: | mchou: 400mhz P2 would almost do for the master backend, but its a little on the poor end |
| [16:09:46] | mchou: | I mean seriously, a single core 1GHz would suffice for mythbe |
| [16:10:01] | simonckenyon: | jst_home_: well just do a "ps ax" and you might consider an extra core to be worthwhile. but to each their own. |
| [16:10:03] | justinh: | oh damn. somebody's at the door. ah it's ok. just an armed posse of fanbois |
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| [16:10:49] | jst_home_: | simonckenyon: I do, but I see only idle processes :) |
| [16:10:52] | djtoast: | utimatly what id like if possible, is to store all my dvd collection, music , watch tv (regular cable) , HD-PVR from my HD cable box. etc I might have 3 tv/computers utiling either tv, playing a dvd, or listing to music at the same time |
| [16:11:04] | mchou: | djtoast: knowing what I know now I'd never hook up a PC to a 109in TV |
| [16:11:27] | henkpoley: | Meh, apparently the AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4000+ |
| [16:11:50] | djtoast: | Oh wile recoring tv of hdtv. |
| [16:11:55] | mchou: | djtoast:: cause all PC video display cards are crap |
| [16:11:56] | justinh: | djtoast: only one frontend can use a tuner at a time |
| [16:12:00] | henkpoley: | ...isn't beefy enough to decode h.264 HDTV |
| [16:12:06] | djtoast: | mchou: I c.. humm.. |
| [16:12:11] | justinh: | any frontend can watch an in-progress 'live' tv recording though |
| [16:12:29] | justinh: | but no other frontend can take control over a livetv stream – e.g. to change channels |
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| [16:14:17] | djtoast: | so from what I hear theres realy no point of doing a 4 core cpu, |
| [16:15:01] | ** mchou guffaws ** | |
| [16:15:14] | djtoast: | mchou: would you plug a NMT instead of the pc directly? |
| [16:15:31] | mchou: | djtoast: exactly |
| [16:16:03] | djtoast: | mchou: thats sounds good ,, in that case I could do a rackmount type of backend.. and put it in my server rack. |
| [16:16:12] | mchou: | djtoast: structured wiring is important :) |
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| [16:16:26] | djtoast: | my house is cable with cat5e.. |
| [16:16:36] | djtoast: | but currently running on 100mb lan |
| [16:16:40] | justinh: | oh I dunno, once ffmpeg gets multithreaded playback for all formats, and that version gets synced into mythtv |
| [16:16:45] | mchou: | djtoast: then you're all set |
| [16:17:35] | mchou: | nobody is gonna give a shit about mt playback when $100 NMTs are available |
| [16:17:47] | djtoast: | mchou: that Oplay device, connects as a front end to myth or its only streaming media? |
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| [16:18:19] | mchou: | djtoast: it only streams files. |
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| [16:18:51] | djtoast: | mchou: so you loose the TV guide and stuff |
| [16:18:51] | mchou: | djtoast: there are NMTs that are hackable (most of them run linux) |
| [16:19:22] | djtoast: | mchou: ok i think i would need to go that route. Ill do some reading on it. |
| [16:19:23] | mchou: | djtoast: NMTs with upnp capabilities are preferred |
| [16:20:13] | djtoast: | last Q: does myth have a pluging to rip dvds. I have over 100 dvds id like to put in storage.. |
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| [16:20:54] | wagnerrp: | but yes, you lose the capability to run mythfrontend, and incur all the limitations of that (such as no guide, no managing recordings, no shared metadata...) |
| [16:21:10] | wagnerrp: | mythvideo can rip dvds, check mythtranscodedaemon |
| [16:21:14] | wagnerrp: | ive never used it personally |
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| [16:21:23] | justinh: | ffs read the docs |
| [16:21:57] | djtoast: | ok.. i usualy read before asking just figured wile i was here :) Ok thanks for all the help. |
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| [16:22:55] | justinh: | ah. so are there any NMTs which don't have total suck-ass UIs ? |
| [16:22:59] | mchou: | oh, get this |
| [16:23:03] | justinh: | no? oh dear :) |
| [16:23:10] | mchou: | NMTs consume about 10W |
| [16:23:39] | justinh: | so? |
| [16:24:02] | mchou: | compare that to any PC, including ion |
| [16:24:28] | justinh: | they probably boot more or less instantly too but.. from what I've seen of their UIs, navigation etc really sucks |
| [16:25:12] | wagnerrp: | mchou: so that means you save a couple dollars a year on power? |
| [16:25:30] | justinh: | it's early days yet. maybe soon we'll start to see some which look like more than a badly-written file browser |
| [16:25:31] | mchou: | wagnerrp: it aint about the $ |
| [16:25:40] | wagnerrp: | so then why bring it up? |
| [16:25:58] | mchou: | it's about size, heat, noise |
| [16:26:44] | wagnerrp: | a full PC as a frontend will consume far less power than the tv it is attached to, and if built properly will be unheard over the noise of said TV |
| [16:27:21] | wagnerrp: | the only reason to concern yourself over 10W versus 50W is if youre off-the-grid |
| [16:27:32] | mchou: | yeah right. You keep your TV on 24x7 |
| [16:27:51] | wagnerrp: | no, but then i dont keep my frontends on 24x7 either |
| [16:27:55] | mag0o: | i see you've met my wife |
| [16:27:55] | wagnerrp: | they go into standby |
| [16:28:52] | mchou: | wagnerrp: like I said earlier, it's also about picture quality |
| [16:29:10] | justinh: | hmm. HDMI vs HDMI vs HDMI. tough call |
| [16:29:16] | mchou: | PC displays suck ass |
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| [16:29:28] | wagnerrp: | yeah, not much difference between displays of different digital outputs |
| [16:29:53] | mchou: | yeah, keep your heads buried in the sand |
| [16:30:04] | wagnerrp: | and if youre talking about analog, well then an ION and friends wont work anyway (they have no analog tv outputs) |
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| [16:30:08] | justinh: | so about the UIs all sucking arse then.. |
| [16:30:11] | justinh: | no comment? |
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| [16:30:36] | mchou: | you think I'm referring to the phyisical connector when I'm talking PQ? |
| [16:30:46] | mchou: | you guys are dense |
| [16:31:12] | wagnerrp: | no, i think youre talking about better scalers, better analog encoders, etc... |
| [16:31:35] | mchou: | no, I sure aint referring to anthing analog |
| [16:31:45] | mchou: | anything* |
| [16:31:46] | justinh: | the output of a $50 network media player from chinawan-pore is gonna be at best on a par with the output of a decent VGA card |
| [16:32:02] | justinh: | in terms of decoding and scaling quality |
| [16:32:05] | mchou: | justinh: hah |
| [16:32:39] | justinh: | well, you stick to your FUD, mister angrypants |
| [16:33:09] | justinh: | and continue to puzzle everybody as to why you still come back. and more to the point why you're still able to come back |
| [16:33:30] | mchou: | considering the same display chips get used in professional devices you'd be way off base |
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| [16:36:28] | wagnerrp: | justinh: doesnt your company build such devices? |
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| [16:43:48] | jst_home_: | anyone know why live tv wouldn't work with the encoder attached to a slave BE. I get "Should be local only query: SpawnLiveTV" on the master BE when trying this. |
| [16:43:58] | jst_home_: | this is on trunk as of last night |
| [16:44:29] | jst_home_: | if I try live tv on the frontend that's running on the same host as the slave with the encoder attached, it works |
| [16:44:37] | jst_home_: | but no other frontends can do live tv |
| [16:45:19] | wagnerrp: | you didnt set up a slave backend on 127.0.0.1 did you? |
| [16:45:34] | jst_home_: | let me check |
| [16:46:41] | jst_home_: | hmm, duh, yes |
| [16:47:27] | wagnerrp: | it was trying to connect to the slave be at that address, which just connected back to the local backend (which was apparently the master) |
| [16:47:44] | wagnerrp: | the other FEs should have given you a different error, something about being unable to connect to the backend |
| [16:47:58] | jst_home_: | indeed, that was it! |
| [16:48:01] | jst_home_: | wagnerrp: thanks! |
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| [16:59:36] | justinh: | wagnerrp: we do, but they won't play HD. and talk about sucky UIs :P |
| [17:00:53] | henkpoley: | Pfff, 10% overclock and HD plays almost perfectly smooth |
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| [17:02:26] | wagnerrp: | youre still only going to manage moderate bitrate off that chip |
| [17:02:33] | wagnerrp: | the 4000+ is a 2.2GHz? |
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| [17:03:00] | wagnerrp: | you should expect to get around 8mbps playback per core |
| [17:03:25] | dustybin: | i have now setup ssh keys, rsnapshot is now taking a snapshot of my remote host :D |
| [17:07:24] | wagnerrp: | 'zfs send tank/folder@snapshot | ssh remotemachine zfs recv tank/remotefolder@snapshot' |
| [17:08:14] | dustybin: | ^^ fugly |
| [17:08:41] | wagnerrp: | you look inside that script rsnapshot is running to manage a remote backup? |
| [17:08:52] | wagnerrp: | i bet its far more than one line and three commands |
| [17:09:06] | dustybin: | im unsure |
| [17:10:11] | henkpoley: | wagnerrp: X2 64 4000+ = 2000 |
| [17:10:39] | wagnerrp: | i thought the 3800 was 2GHz... maybe the 4000 has more cache or something |
| [17:11:02] | henkpoley: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athl . . . .2C_90_nm.29 |
| [17:11:40] | henkpoley: | I have the 65 W though |
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| [17:11:53] | henkpoley: | ..65 Watt version.. |
| [17:12:07] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter |
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| [17:12:39] | wagnerrp: | anyway, i have the single core version of that chip, and it peaks out at around 7.5–8mbps |
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| [17:14:51] | henkpoley: | HD h.264 is here 11–14mbit/s |
| [17:15:25] | wagnerrp: | well then if youre decoding that with a mild overclock, they must be using CAVLC |
| [17:15:27] | henkpoley: | mythfrontend peeks with 100–110%, so basically single core usage |
| [17:16:05] | wagnerrp: | its likely single sliced, meaning with myth's current decoders, decoding is single core only |
| [17:17:06] | henkpoley: | and the last patch @ http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4653 doesn't seem to help with that |
| [17:17:23] | henkpoley: | The comments seem to make it that it used to be different |
| [17:18:20] | wagnerrp: | the deblocking loopfilter is a part of the h264 spec |
| [17:18:47] | wagnerrp: | by having such a filter on the decoder, there is supposedly a significant increase in decoded video quality |
| [17:18:51] | henkpoley: | Hmm, my TV can do some deblocking if it would be very bad :P |
| [17:18:58] | wagnerrp: | but its an expensive process |
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| [17:19:17] | wagnerrp: | your TV will not do deblocking on a video input |
| [17:19:39] | henkpoley: | wagnerrp: any idea what would be a better idea: shooting €50–60 at a better CPU, or a better GPU |
| [17:20:16] | henkpoley: | wagnerrp: It does do MPEG2 artifact suppression (which is probably slightly different) |
| [17:20:37] | wagnerrp: | on the uncompressed video feeds? or on its own digital tuner? |
| [17:21:09] | wagnerrp: | it shouldnt touch the video inputs unless it needs to scale the video |
| [17:21:25] | henkpoley: | The setting even appears on individual inputs |
| [17:22:11] | henkpoley: | I'll dive into the manual |
| [17:22:23] | wagnerrp: | anyway... the bigger issue is that youre not going to spend €50–60 on a better CPU |
| [17:22:36] | wagnerrp: | youll spend ~€150 on a new system |
| [17:22:54] | wagnerrp: | 939 chips are pretty scarce these days |
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| [17:24:07] | henkpoley: | AM2 |
| [17:25:18] | wagnerrp: | oh, thats an AM2 chip? well that might explain why youre getting better performance than i expect |
| [17:30:29] | henkpoley: | Pff, you can get GeForce 9400 GT for less than €50 that have 1GB, as much RAM as I wanted to put in this mythtv system a year back. |
| [17:31:29] | wagnerrp: | 1GB is unneeded at the moment |
| [17:31:34] | wagnerrp: | 512 is recommended |
| [17:31:50] | wagnerrp: | 256 may have some issues with myth's vdpau implementation on video with a lot of reference frames |
| [17:31:58] | henkpoley: | but VDPAU is unstable, ins't it ? |
| [17:32:12] | henkpoley: | as in, crashes now and then.. |
| [17:32:28] | gbee: | no? |
| [17:32:38] | wagnerrp: | works just fine for me |
| [17:33:43] | henkpoley: | "11:49 justinh: like by all accounts still poos its pants with glitchy broadcast content" |
| [17:34:03] | justinh: | I did NOT say 'crashes' :) |
| [17:34:20] | wagnerrp: | well hes a brit, with his fancy h264 broadcasts |
| [17:34:34] | henkpoley: | It's just shoddy error recovery on screen ? |
| [17:34:45] | wagnerrp: | at least vdpau has gotten far better at managing errors in my mpeg2 stuff over the past couple months |
| [17:35:17] | justinh: | henkpoley: prolly as good as any hardware decoder. software decoding handles errors better |
| [17:40:39] | GreyFoxx_: | I use vdpau a lot with no problems |
| [17:40:49] | GreyFoxx_: | And the renderer is much nicer than normal xvideo |
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| [17:47:14] | badluck1: | hey havin probs with mtd tryin to rip dvd..... following error libdvdread: Can't seek to block 3083918 |
| [17:47:14] | badluck1: | libdvdread: Invalid IFO for title 8 (VTS_08_0.IFO). |
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| [17:49:43] | jst_home_: | badluck1: copy protected dvd? |
| [17:50:22] | badluck1: | its the new X-Men movie so i wouldnt be surprised.... any way around it if it is |
| [17:50:43] | jst_home_: | none in myth afaik |
| [17:50:56] | wagnerrp: | probably some new scheme that it is not capable of handling |
| [17:53:05] | badluck1: | it comes with a "digital copy" on dvd, haven't even looked at it tho.. dont know what format or anything..... anything I can do with that?? |
| [17:53:26] | justinh: | low res DRM'd format of some kind |
| [17:53:49] | wagnerrp: | almost certainly unusable |
| [17:54:01] | wagnerrp: | and almost certainly not wanted to be used due to quality |
| [17:54:18] | badluck1: | thats what i figured |
| [17:54:22] | badluck1: | thanks alot guys |
| [17:54:31] | Dagmar: | Not all of them are like that |
| [17:54:36] | Dagmar: | They're generally DRMed tho |
| [17:54:55] | Dagmar: | i've got this JetLi/JackieChan thing that came with a 720p rip |
| [17:55:04] | badluck1: | anything that can bypass the drm |
| [17:55:12] | Dagmar: | Nothing we'll be discussing here. |
| [17:55:14] | Dagmar: | Use Google. |
| [17:55:21] | badluck1: | understood |
| [17:56:38] | henkpoley: | Only works on "PlaysForSure Portable Devices" ;-) |
| [17:57:08] | henkpoley: | For the few who have Zune |
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| [18:03:29] | android60: | When I scan for channels I get "Found 2 non conflicting atsc channels" when scanning for clear qam cable |
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| [18:09:54] | badluck1: | hey just wanted to let everyone know that my dvd is ripping as we speak.. I restarted the mtd and now it seems to be working..... dont know if the video is really gonna be useable tho |
| [18:15:05] | henkpoley: | badluck1: ah the old rewind the tape, blow the cartridge, try again solution ;-) |
| [18:17:01] | badluck1: | ok maybe not.... new error tho..... Error: DVDPerfectThread read failed for 231 blocks at 480927...... prob still the same issue what do you guys think |
| [18:21:21] | android60: | is tehre any possible way in trunk when scanning to ignore music channels? |
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| [18:22:40] | Dagmar: | No. |
| [18:23:02] | Dagmar: | badluck1: What part of "we can not and will not help you copy DVDs" is confusing you |
| [18:23:19] | badluck1: | i apologize |
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| [18:24:19] | henkpoley: | android60: For? DVB ? ATSC ? |
| [18:24:37] | henkpoley: | For DVB you can simply set TV, instead of TV+Radio |
| [18:24:39] | android60: | henkpoley: dvb |
| [18:24:43] | android60: | I did set TV |
| [18:24:59] | android60: | but the black screen only music channels still pull through in the results |
| [18:25:31] | henkpoley: | No fix for that, they probably send a video channel too |
| [18:25:43] | henkpoley: | Just set them to hidden afterwards |
| [18:26:04] | henkpoley: | or 'not visible' (might be the term) |
| [18:26:28] | henkpoley: | Then they are hidden from most places, at least the TV Guide |
| [18:26:51] | android60: | well my problem right now is, when scanning dvb clear qam 256 cable high, I get "Found 2 non conflicting atsc channels", "Found 13 non conflicting mpegchannels","Found 31 conflicting mpeg channels" |
| [18:27:18] | android60: | and I have no idea which to say yes and no to, i tried adding only the non conflicting but only 1 real channel showed up |
| [18:28:44] | android60: | i went back and deleted all channels, and now added only the conflicting one, but im flipping through now and they all seem to be music channels |
| [18:32:38] | android60: | so idk what to do. |
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| [19:11:33] | _ben: | anyone messed with http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Asrock-NetTop- . . . 0GB-HDD-HDMI ? |
| [19:13:41] | henkpoley: | _ben: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU mentions an Atom/Ion system |
| [19:13:49] | wagnerrp: | messed with VDPAU and/or ION systems? |
| [19:13:54] | wagnerrp: | sure, plenty of people |
| [19:14:15] | _ben: | ta henkpoley |
| [19:15:06] | henkpoley: | 7% CPU @ 720p/1080i MPEG2 seem rather good |
| [19:15:42] | _ben: | yeah, not a bad price |
| [19:16:01] | [R]: | sutpid site wont load for me... how much is it? |
| [19:16:15] | _ben: | ~ 230 GBP |
| [19:16:27] | [R]: | omg |
| [19:16:28] | [R]: | thats insane |
| [19:16:31] | [R]: | $366! |
| [19:16:41] | [R]: | still hasn't loaded though |
| [19:16:41] | [R]: | haha |
| [19:16:45] | [R]: | is it a full system or just a board? |
| [19:16:49] | _ben: | full system |
| [19:16:50] | wagnerrp: | full system |
| [19:16:55] | [R]: | oh, i guess tahts not bad then |
| [19:17:14] | _ben: | http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/17/asrocks-io . . . ts-reviewed/ |
| [19:17:24] | [R]: | the pipes going to the england must be full |
| [19:17:30] | _ben: | altho i'm not looking at teh blu-ray version |
| [19:17:30] | henkpoley: | See the URL ;-) 2GB DDR2, 320GB HD, HDMI |
| [19:18:02] | wagnerrp: | henkpoley: well youre paying some $200 for 2GB of memory, a hard drive, and a case |
| [19:18:20] | wagnerrp: | memory is nothing like that expensive, and you dont need a hard drive |
| [19:18:31] | [R]: | its a nice case... |
| [19:18:40] | wagnerrp: | but then youre also not going to fit any board you find in a case that slim |
| [19:19:44] | [R]: | so if you go hard-drive less for an ION |
| [19:19:54] | [R]: | don't you need an absurd amount of ram... to mitigate the need for swap? |
| [19:20:11] | _ben: | 2GB is fine for playback |
| [19:20:29] | [R]: | but with ion, the graphics memory is gonna be stolen from system ram |
| [19:20:41] | wagnerrp: | ive never bumped over to swap on my 2GB (minues some 256MB for shared video) fe/be combo |
| [19:21:04] | [R]: | mmmm |
| [19:21:05] | wagnerrp: | the only time ive ever bumped over to swap on my 1GB machine was compiling mythtv with -j3 |
| [19:21:09] | [R]: | haha |
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| [19:21:48] | jst_home_: | I'm running fe and a slave be on an atom/ion system here, with 512 megs used for video, and still have over 500 megs free out of my 2 gigs |
| [19:21:56] | [R]: | if i were to get an ion... i'd want it to PXE... but then my backend has to stay on... OR i would have to write a custom initramfs that would wake the backend up... do most people jujst leave their backends on? |
| [19:22:14] | sidh: | greetings gentlemen |
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| [19:22:25] | [R]: | jst_home_: hrm... thats good |
| [19:22:27] | sidh: | iREALLY need your help/advices |
| [19:22:28] | jst_home_: | [R]: Mine's always on |
| [19:22:36] | [R]: | but its just a huge waste of energy |
| [19:22:48] | _ben: | [R]: i was under the impresion the frontend could use WOL to wake the backend |
| [19:22:52] | sidh: | i've installed yesterday night mythbuntu ~9.10 |
| [19:22:53] | jst_home_: | but it's on my server that's used for a ton of stuff, so not really |
| [19:23:06] | [R]: | _ben: except if its PXE... the source of the PXE needs to be on for it to start... |
| [19:23:39] | _ben: | heh |
| [19:23:44] | _ben: | not sure i'd bother with pxe |
| [19:23:52] | sid3windr: | pxe rocks :) |
| [19:23:56] | jst_home_: | [R]: get one of those $100 wallwart ARM things that run linux at 5W |
| [19:23:58] | sid3windr: | but yes, my be is always on |
| [19:24:07] | sidh: | the motherboard is a brand new one D945gclf2 (atom CPU + 2 GB RAM + hauppauge TD 500 nova) |
| [19:24:11] | [R]: | jst_home_: haha |
| [19:24:35] | jst_home_: | [R]: I bet it would be plenty to run etherwake now n' then :) |
| [19:24:37] | sidh: | dmesg tells hauppauge is recognized, but when confired, it failed to scan channels |
| [19:24:38] | [R]: | jst_home_: tahts not free energy though... it still adds up 365 days |
| [19:25:03] | wagnerrp: | [R]: depending on your network card, you may be able to tell your server to wake on network activity |
| [19:25:07] | sidh: | s/confired/configured |
| [19:25:46] | wagnerrp: | in which case your router would set up PXE boot, your FE would start hitting your server for TFTP, and wake up |
| [19:25:59] | [R]: | hrm... |
| [19:26:25] | [R]: | i forgot my dhcp nheeds to support pxe |
| [19:26:31] | ** [R] goes rummaging around google to figure out how to do that ** | |
| [19:26:35] | sidh: | does someone could help me please, all the harware is new, and i chose it considering it was supported with mythtv |
| [19:26:49] | [R]: | sidh: what does "confired" mean? |
| [19:27:10] | jst_home_: | [R]: so get a car battery and a solar panel charger :) |
| [19:27:12] | wagnerrp: | [R]: see above corection |
| [19:27:13] | sidh: | [R]: configured |
| [19:27:21] | [R]: | ah, missed that |
| [19:27:28] | jst_home_: | [R]: oh, and an inverter :) |
| [19:27:31] | [R]: | sidh: what is a td 500 nova? |
| [19:27:42] | [R]: | jst_home_: well i *do* live in the desert... |
| [19:27:49] | sidh: | [R]: this is a DVB card |
| [19:27:51] | jst_home_: | [R]: perfect! :) |
| [19:27:52] | [R]: | jst_home_: but then what am i to do in the winter months? |
| [19:27:55] | [R]: | sidh: dvb what |
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| [19:28:31] | jst_home_: | [R]: solar works on cloudy days too! |
| [19:28:44] | [R]: | jst_home_: and when i want to watch tv at night? |
| [19:28:46] | wagnerrp: | not well |
| [19:28:55] | wagnerrp: | thats what the marine battery is for |
| [19:28:57] | jst_home_: | [R]: that's what the batteries are for! |
| [19:29:04] | wagnerrp: | marine deep cycle >> car battery |
| [19:29:04] | sidh: | in France whe have TNT (channel are encoded in mpeg format) the english name is DVB i think |
| [19:29:18] | [R]: | sidh: dvb s, dvb c, dvb t... |
| [19:29:35] | sidh: | tnt, so i would say dvb t |
| [19:29:44] | [R]: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV_Nova-T_500_PCI |
| [19:29:52] | [R]: | is that what you yhave anad have you followed the insturctions there |
| [19:30:22] | [R]: | lookslike you need firmware |
| [19:33:36] | [R]: | wagnerrp: i could always keep the kernel and modified ramdisk on a usb stick and not use PXE and have my modified ramdisk send a wakeup and wait for the backend to wake up |
| [19:34:48] | sidh: | http://pastebin.com/d7ba488e8 <- [R] here is my dmesg, it seems it is ok with the firmware |
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| [19:35:09] | [R]: | sidh: [12:29:52] [R] is that what you yhave anad have you followed the insturctions there |
| [19:37:26] | sidh: | [R]: this how to was for older relase, the mythbuntu 9.10 i use has offered me to install proprietary driver, this is what i've done, |
| [19:37:49] | sidh: | the as you can see, my dmesg output is quite the same as the one one the link you paste |
| [19:38:19] | [R]: | ok |
| [19:38:21] | [R]: | that is one part of it |
| [19:38:22] | [R]: | the firmware |
| [19:38:24] | [R]: | that page is quite long |
| [19:39:07] | sidh: | yes but it talks about the IR receiver, and i don't want to use that one, as i would like to use the antec veris elite i bought for this use |
| [19:39:34] | sidh: | my problem is that i i can not scan channels |
| [19:40:06] | justinh: | I said it was likely to be firmware related earlier |
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| [19:40:22] | justinh: | I don't think ubuntu's restricted driver manager deals with video hardware firmwares |
| [19:41:24] | justinh: | if you can scan for channels with dvb-utils scan, then it's not a driver or firmware issue |
| [19:41:51] | justinh: | if you can't scan in mythtv-setup, then either your permissions are wrong (group membership) or something else is using the card |
| [19:42:08] | justinh: | or you selected the wrong tuner type :P |
| [19:42:26] | sidh: | justinh: i try again |
| [19:42:57] | justinh: | if you're using ubuntu you *really* should follow the ubuntu community docs |
| [19:43:35] | justinh: | if dvb-utils scan works, then you've got working hardware so you can rule that out of the equation |
| [19:43:47] | justinh: | infact, try another dvb app like Kaffeine |
| [19:44:04] | justinh: | establish the hardware is good before even going near mythtv-setup |
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| [19:48:50] | sidh: | failed to open frontend -> justinh this is what i get when i run dvbscan |
| [19:51:11] | squish102: | whooooo managed to get boxee sound working and a menu option from in mythtv to open boxee |
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| [19:55:33] | henkpoley: | sidh: do you have the backend running? Only one program can access at a time |
| [19:55:38] | ExElNeT: | hmm what happens if i have one server with 3 capture cards. can 3 clients watch simultaneos tv then? |
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| [19:57:01] | henkpoley: | yes |
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| [19:57:58] | ExElNeT: | hmm and what happens if the 4th client joins in? |
| [19:58:23] | henkpoley: | 100mbit * 80% (TCP/IP efficiency) / 4 = 20mbit per client |
| [19:58:24] | henkpoley: | hmm |
| [19:58:33] | henkpoley: | your harddisk might choke first |
| [19:58:57] | sidh: | henkpoley: how can i verify |
| [19:58:59] | [R]: | ExElNeT: there is a mesage that says "all avaialble inputs are in use" |
| [19:59:03] | henkpoley: | random access (2-3–4 files) of a single disk is really mediocre |
| [19:59:05] | sidh: | i'm quite new to mythtv |
| [19:59:20] | ExElNeT: | [R]: henkpoley thanks... both questions answered :=) |
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| [20:00:05] | henkpoley: | btw, if you use digital TV, you can watch all the channels in the same transport, usually 4–8 channels |
| [20:00:42] | henkpoley: | So with 3 cards there is a chance that you pick a channel it is already tuned to |
| [20:02:44] | ExElNeT: | ah so... i would be able to watch 4to8 channels per card? so 4–8 clients? |
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| [20:03:37] | [R]: | ExElNeT: it depends on your provider |
| [20:03:47] | sphery: | 0 to 1M clients, watching 4–8 channels? |
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| [20:04:10] | sphery: | (actually you'd have network bandwidth problems long before 1M clients :) |
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| [20:04:48] | ExElNeT: | well it would be dvb-s2 |
| [20:04:49] | sphery: | though if they're all watching the same channel through LiveTV (and recording it), each would need a separate virtual tuner |
| [20:05:05] | henkpoley: | with 4 ch. you might be able to make some custom replication software ;-) |
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| [20:05:21] | sphery: | but that would be a waste as it would write multiple copies of the same thing to disk |
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| [20:06:26] | sidh: | when i launch mythtv set up , the screen resolution is awful and unusable, do you know how to ix that |
| [20:06:38] | sidh: | s/ix/fix |
| [20:06:59] | ExElNeT: | hmm so the basic question is...: how much do they overlap eachother |
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| [20:08:23] | tosse: | hi, im trying to get mythtv to work with xbmc, but when i try to view live channels i only get a green screen, could someone point me in the right direction? |
| [20:09:50] | mchou: | tosse: go ask in #xbmc |
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| [20:10:43] | tosse: | mchou: ok, is there any way to change the format mythtv will output? |
| [20:10:54] | djtoast: | Hi all, anyone using HD-PVR with myth? |
| [20:10:58] | mchou: | tosse: format of what? |
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| [20:11:14] | djtoast: | I read its working but would like to know how well :) |
| [20:11:20] | tosse: | mchou: the live tv files |
| [20:11:46] | mchou: | tosse: I have no idea what you're talking about |
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| [20:12:13] | kormoc: | hrm |
| [20:12:25] | kormoc: | So on -trunk, the delete from the deleted recording group isn't working anymore... |
| [20:12:50] | android60: | for mythvideos how do I get proper show information to come up? Like all it says is file name which is title and None or ? |
| [20:12:58] | djtoast: | aslo a amd64 3000+ is that ok for a frontend playing HD content? |
| [20:13:08] | okolsi: | I've noticed that deleting from Live-Tv groups is also not working.. |
| [20:13:13] | android60: | is that through some sort of tags, or does it grab it from imdb, or what. and if its from imdb how do i get it to get the info |
| [20:13:23] | abqjp: | djtoast, The HD-PVR is pretty solid with Myth trunk. |
| [20:13:26] | kormoc: | okolsi: any idea on when it started? |
| [20:13:31] | okolsi: | you can delete Live-tv recording through MythWeb but not using frontend |
| [20:13:39] | abqjp: | djtoast, Hmmm, that processor is a little weak, unless you are using VDPAU. |
| [20:13:40] | okolsi: | kormoc: no idea |
| [20:14:05] | djtoast: | abqjp: if you play from a remote box over 100b lan is it ok? |
| [20:14:20] | djtoast: | 100mb |
| [20:14:24] | mchou: | lol |
| [20:14:39] | okolsi: | koromoc: the live-tv thing has been like that for month or months.. so not a recent issue |
| [20:14:41] | abqjp: | My frontend is remote from my backend, but I have gigabit. I have not tried 100mb, but it should work fine. |
| [20:14:44] | mchou: | djtoast: it's has little to do with the network |
| [20:14:55] | sphery: | kormoc: you mean the perl script? |
| [20:15:18] | sphery: | or just in general? |
| [20:15:24] | kormoc: | sphery: in general |
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| [20:15:48] | sphery: | don't remember any changes to the mainserver command/delete code... |
| [20:15:51] | kormoc: | sphery: I have 500 recordings in default, 200 in deleted, and I'm out of space, myth is refusing to record anything anymore |
| [20:16:11] | kormoc: | sphery: it's not auto-expiring anything, nor is it deleteing from the deleted group |
| [20:16:14] | sphery: | wanna run the perl script and see if it does it? |
| [20:16:17] | kormoc: | Sure |
| [20:16:34] | sphery: | contrib/maintenance/flush_deleted_recgroup.pl |
| [20:17:04] | sphery: | do you have slow deletes enabled? |
| [20:17:20] | kormoc: | negative |
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| [20:17:53] | sphery: | wonder if it maybe broke when Capt M added the DELETE_FILE command... |
| [20:18:33] | djtoast: | so if i were to hook up the HD-PVR on a AMD64 3000+ and use this as a second backend / fronend im going to have some issues? |
| [20:18:44] | kormoc: | sphery: it said it deleted things, but it doesn't seem to have actually done it |
| [20:19:31] | sphery: | still in DB and on filesystem? |
| [20:20:00] | henkpoley: | djtoast: a frontend on an AMD64 3000+ will have problems with HDTV without NVidia VDPAU acceleration (my 4000+ has...) |
| [20:20:21] | kormoc: | sphery: aye |
| [20:20:57] | djtoast: | henkpoley: what about if the 3000+ is only backend and my frontend is way better |
| [20:21:12] | henkpoley: | backend requires basically nothing |
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| [20:21:40] | henkpoley: | Apparently a 400MHz PC can be a nice backend with such a digital tv receiver |
| [20:21:46] | mchou: | henkpoley: lots of disk space though |
| [20:21:47] | jpabq: | Only reason to have a powerful backend, is if you want real-time H.264 commercial flagging. |
| [20:21:59] | djtoast: | i c |
| [20:22:16] | djtoast: | with your experience does the out on the HD-PVR still work? |
| [20:22:35] | jpabq: | The out? You mean the pass-through? |
| [20:22:37] | henkpoley: | Hmm, commercial flagging can't be done in a clustered PCs fashion? |
| [20:22:45] | henkpoley: | I don't use it, so.. |
| [20:22:50] | djtoast: | jpabq: yes |
| [20:23:02] | jpabq: | It can. You can run mythjobqueue on your frontend. |
| [20:24:11] | jpabq: | djtoast: passthrough works fine. It is autonomous. |
| [20:24:44] | sphery: | kormoc: I have a theory, but to test it, we need to see if it deletes with chanid/starttime (as opposed to using a full programinfo) |
| [20:24:57] | sphery: | any chance you remember the format for the starttime? |
| [20:25:28] | russk: | anyone know a way to embed a brief OSD into the beginning of a recording for date and time |
| [20:25:48] | sphery: | embed as in as part of the recording? |
| [20:26:08] | russk: | sphery, yes, part of the recording |
| [20:26:10] | sphery: | only way to do it is with a) a set-top-box OSD or b) some external app after Myth has recorded |
| [20:26:32] | sphery: | If you're using a STB, just have your channel change script show it for some time, then clear it |
| [20:26:38] | sphery: | (or let it time out itself) |
| [20:26:42] | paperclip: | jpabq: I'm wondering if commflagging will be able to use HW acceleration somehow.. |
| [20:26:55] | russk: | external app would be fine, i'm converting to watch on my blackberry |
| [20:27:05] | jpabq: | paperclip: Not currently. |
| [20:27:19] | kormoc: | sphery: I don't offhand |
| [20:27:29] | paperclip: | jpabq: yeah.. will be able is future tense.. :) |
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| [20:27:40] | sphery: | kormoc: ok, looking it up--just being more careful than normal with your system :) |
| [20:28:02] | kormoc: | sphery: actually... it might be working |
| [20:28:04] | paperclip: | jpabq: seems like a reasonable use for hw accel.. but i have no idea how comflagging works.. |
| [20:28:08] | sphery: | oh, no... Warning: The Qt::ISODate format is only valid for years in the range 0 to 9999 ... |
| [20:28:12] | kormoc: | I just noticed that the encoder was gone |
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| [20:28:21] | sphery: | Did anyone else know about the Myth Y9999 bug? |
| [20:28:28] | ** kormoc peers at the wires with a theory ** | |
| [20:28:41] | sphery: | as in the encoderlink? |
| [20:28:50] | sphery: | that would prevent autoexpire from working (among other things) |
| [20:29:02] | sphery: | (i.e. if you had a tunerless backend) |
| [20:29:13] | henkpoley: | sphery: I pithy the people using current MythTV in the year 9999 |
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| [20:29:34] | sphery: | henkpoley: well, we should start the fix now so it doesn't sneak up on us like Y2K did... |
| [20:29:42] | kormoc: | yeah... the parrots just chewed though the usb cable... |
| [20:29:51] | sphery: | heh |
| [20:29:54] | sphery: | not good |
| [20:30:12] | kormoc: | no... not at all, they also are part of the way into the usb drive too |
| [20:30:16] | ** kormoc gives them the evil eye ** | |
| [20:30:57] | sphery: | So, if mice cables come with stickers on them that tell you to wash your hands after touching the cable (because of lead in them), are USB cables the same? |
| [20:31:12] | sphery: | I'd guess eating a lead-based cable is worse than just touching one |
| [20:31:20] | kormoc: | nah, they just chew them, they don't eat them |
| [20:31:24] | Dagmar: | Keep your USB cables out of your mouth then |
| [20:32:04] | kormoc: | I wish I could teach my retarded birds that... |
| [20:32:36] | ExElNeT: | does anyone use the tv_grab_de_tvmovie_clickfinder grabber? it asks me each time i run mythfilldatabase the following question: replace /tmp/tv_grab_de_tvmovie_clickfinder-root/091.tv1? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]ename: ... any idea? where should i start... :=) |
| [20:33:16] | sphery: | So, the right thing would be for me to test the issue that okolsi mentioned, but last time I agreed to fix an issue he mentioned, it lead me to finding 4 other issues to fix (2 of which I'm still working on). |
| [20:34:16] | okolsi: | sphery: sorry to hear that :) |
| [20:34:32] | sphery: | so deleting LiveTV didn't work for you? |
| [20:34:40] | sphery: | do you have Deleted recgroup enabled? |
| [20:34:58] | okolsi: | yes, using Deleted group and cannot delete live-tv programs |
| [20:35:10] | sphery: | ok, I'll look if I get a chance to |
| [20:35:11] | sphery: | thanks |
| [20:35:22] | okolsi: | np |
| [20:36:55] | okolsi: | sphery: just verified.. when I'm in special LiveTV recgroup and pressing D, myth asks if I'm sure about the delete.. answering yes doesn't remove the file |
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| [20:38:24] | KS0FT: | hello |
| [20:38:26] | KS0FT: | i have a question |
| [20:38:29] | KS0FT: | i'm trying to scan channels |
| [20:38:33] | KS0FT: | and that option is blanked out |
| [20:38:52] | KS0FT: | IE – the "Channel Scanner" button is visable but not a selectable option |
| [20:39:01] | KS0FT: | anyone know why? |
| [20:39:15] | [R]: | what is your tuner? |
| [20:40:03] | KS0FT: | Hauppauge WinTV HVR 1600 PCI |
| [20:40:05] | sidh: | well i still investigate about my problem of haupauge 500 TD nova adapter (dvb t card), and when i go in "acquisition card", and choose acquisition card DVB (v3.X), DVB Device number is /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 , BUT for frontend id i got ERROR_OPEN message |
| [20:40:31] | Dagmar: | So check dmesg |
| [20:40:53] | sphery: | okolsi: always or only when recording? |
| [20:41:16] | okolsi: | sphery: always.. can't remove anything from LiveTV recgroup |
| [20:42:20] | okolsi: | sphery: haven't actually tried to remove LiveTV recording while it's being recorded.. if that was what you meant |
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| [20:43:57] | sphery: | yeah, that's what I meant |
| [20:44:22] | sphery: | okolsi: so, I'm assuming you're not seeing errors in the backend(s) log(s) |
| [20:45:38] | stalks: | How do I scan for channels these days? It seems to have changed over the months. I'm using SVN from 2009-09–15 and just want to do a rescan but now I have options like Full Scan, Scan all transports, etc. none of which will accept defaults and just scan for me :/ |
| [20:45:39] | okolsi: | sphery: with normal important,general levels no.. and nothing in fe logs |
| [20:46:06] | kormoc: | gbee: no 22.1? |
| [20:46:13] | okolsi: | there might be something with other levels, haven't tried (yet) |
| [20:46:26] | ExElNeT: | found a solution for my problem: http://swolter.sdf1.org/software/article-tvmovie-1-2.html |
| [20:46:34] | [R]: | stalks: full scan |
| [20:47:13] | stalks: | [R]: I choose Full Scan and a dialog says "Error parsing parameters" |
| [20:47:23] | [R]: | thats weird |
| [20:47:32] | [R]: | what type of tuner is it? |
| [20:47:42] | stalks: | hauppauge dvb-t single tuner |
| [20:47:57] | [R]: | no clue what the otpions are for that |
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| [20:48:04] | [R]: | but are there options that show up when you selet fulll scan? |
| [20:49:11] | stalks: | Scan type: Full Scan (Tuned), Frequency: [blank], Polarity: Horizontal, Symbol Rate: 27500000, FEC: Auto, Inversion: Auto |
| [20:49:26] | stalks: | No idea what they mean I'm afraid. Before I just hit next twice and off it went |
| [20:49:39] | sidh: | stalks you're lucky , with my hauppauge i get only ERROR_OPEN for frontend id |
| [20:49:54] | gbee: | kormoc: apologies, I mis-read the ticket and thought it was a user who set the milestone |
| [20:49:57] | [R]: | i think you have to give it a sytarting freq maybe |
| [20:49:58] | sphery: | okolsi: It looks like that behavior may be by design... By deleting a LiveTV recording to the Deleted recgroup, you'd actually be causing it to be kept for a long time and expired at a lower priority than LiveTV recordings--whereas LiveTV is deleted after a day (7 at most), Deleted recordings could last for a long time (until your storage fills up). |
| [20:50:29] | sphery: | okolsi: I can understand the desire to delete it--and, for LiveTV, I'd assume it makes sense to delete immediately rather than throw it in Deleted |
| [20:50:34] | stalks: | Have any wiki/readme been updated for this new scanning method? |
| [20:50:37] | kormoc: | gbee: no worries |
| [20:50:52] | KS0FT: | i _think_ i have some channels scanned now – but when i go to watch television it just gives me a black screen |
| [20:50:53] | sphery: | but I'd have to see if others (who actually use LiveTV and the Deleted recgroup) would agree with the change. |
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| [20:51:35] | okolsi: | sphery: sounds logical.. I'd agree that in this case the LiveTV recording should be removed immediately |
| [20:51:54] | gbee: | kormoc: reverted |
| [20:52:12] | okolsi: | sphery: or.. best solution would be to move it to Deleted group and set priorities etc. so that it would expire first |
| [20:52:24] | okolsi: | shery: I know.. new feature request and all that :D |
| [20:52:40] | KS0FT: | well i just wish MythTV worked to watch television |
| [20:52:57] | KS0FT: | right now it's kind of buggy only does a blank screen when you click on Watch TV |
| [20:53:11] | [R]: | KS0FT: its not buggy, you just didnt set it up right |
| [20:53:13] | iamlindoro: | s/kind of buggy/improperly configured/ |
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| [20:57:53] | stalks: | I'll do an uninstall, svn up, configure, compile, install and see if a full scan works |
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| [20:59:35] | sphery: | okolsi: ok, nvm, it looks like it should do exactly what I suggested... I'll test it out later today and see if I can find why it's failing. |
| [21:05:16] | okolsi: | sphery: k, thanks for looking into it |
| [21:05:45] | sphery: | I'm passing the 4 issues I find this time back to you, though... :) |
| [21:06:12] | okolsi: | sphery: ... :D |
| [21:07:59] | sidh: | [R]: i go further in the log maeesgae here is what i get |
| [21:08:14] | sidh: | http://pastebin.com/d37f1b141 |
| [21:08:53] | [R]: | sidh: sounds like the device is in use |
| [21:10:49] | sidh: | [R]: how can i fix that ? |
| [21:11:05] | [R]: | stop whatever is using it |
| [21:11:14] | okolsi: | sphery: the release coming and everything.. I think I might have some channel scanning issues in mind.. but those are probably more for other devs |
| [21:11:14] | stalks: | [R]: svn up, recompile, install ... now it works ... before I got the options to select frequency etc... I thought perhaps during an svn up I did last month the dialog in mythtv-setup had changed .. however it seems it was just confused as to what country I was in as now it looks familiar and in place of all the frequency jargon is simply "Country: United Kingdom"... sorted =] |
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| [21:12:42] | sidh: | [R]: well i only lauch terminal , firefox and mythv set up |
| [21:14:11] | sphery: | okolsi: definitely for other devs |
| [21:15:45] | sidh: | [R]: do you think reinstalling mythbuntu with the stable version should fix this ? |
| [21:16:00] | sidh: | 9.04 instead of 9.10 |
| [21:16:13] | [R]: | maybe |
| [21:16:17] | [R]: | trunk has issues |
| [21:16:33] | sidh: | ok i see |
| [21:16:34] | Dagmar: | We try to tell people, but they just wont' listen. |
| [21:16:39] | Dagmar: | I blame not enough beatings from the parents |
| [21:16:44] | [R]: | haha |
| [21:16:44] | sidh: | lets try |
| [21:18:53] | sidh: | [R] do you know if it is possible when installing mythbuntu , to choose a specific uid for the default user (i use NFS backend) |
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| [21:19:24] | [R]: | sidh: this isn't #mythbuntu |
| [21:19:26] | henkpoley: | sidh: tried running `lsof` to see if anything hogs the device ? |
| [21:20:34] | _ben: | sphery: was it you that uses subtitles/captions? |
| [21:20:53] | sphery: | yeah, US captions |
| [21:21:06] | sphery: | big fan of them |
| [21:21:11] | sphery: | my friends think I'm weird |
| [21:21:34] | _ben: | do you ever experience 'laggy' captions? |
| [21:21:46] | sphery: | are you in the US? |
| [21:21:59] | _ben: | nope, UK |
| [21:22:01] | sphery: | there are 2 possible issues |
| [21:22:35] | sidh: | henkpoley: http://pastebin.com/d7570a16d |
| [21:22:44] | sphery: | OK, I think yours is: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6753 |
| [21:22:46] | sidh: | i grep for dvb |
| [21:22:50] | sphery: | _ben: ^^^ |
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| [21:23:34] | _ben: | ta, i'll bookmark that |
| [21:23:48] | _ben: | not a big issue but slightly annoying |
| [21:23:59] | sphery: | _ben: does that sound like what you're seeing? |
| [21:24:12] | _ben: | Yeah, it's like .... |
| [21:24:29] | _ben: | Someone speaks .... subtitles are delayed then rest of the conversation is fine |
| [21:25:03] | sphery: | cool... it's reported and people are looking into 9it |
| [21:25:11] | _ben: | =) |
| [21:25:23] | sphery: | will only be fixed in trunk when fixed, though |
| [21:25:42] | sphery: | so you'll get it in 0.22 (or 0.22-fixes if we don't have the fix at release :) |
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| [21:42:50] | pjcrux: | hello all is wagnerrp around? |
| [21:42:58] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [21:43:19] | pjcrux: | hello wagnerrp you were helping me last night with an issue in setup |
| [21:43:29] | wagnerrp: | not that i recall, but go on |
| [21:43:30] | iamlindoro: | and thus, you are his slave forever |
| [21:43:44] | iamlindoro: | and ever, world without end, Amen |
| [21:44:00] | pjcrux: | when I try to add anything there is not a finish button in the bottom right to select |
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| [21:44:16] | wagnerrp: | add anything where |
| [21:44:19] | pjcrux: | I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling to no effect |
| [21:44:21] | pjcrux: | cards |
| [21:44:22] | wagnerrp: | i do not recall any of this conversation |
| [21:44:25] | pjcrux: | video sources |
| [21:44:31] | pjcrux: | you name it it's not there |
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| [21:45:01] | wagnerrp: | so you have a list of sources? youve added all that you need? |
| [21:45:10] | pjcrux: | yes |
| [21:45:15] | wagnerrp: | then hit escape |
| [21:45:23] | pjcrux: | sorry yes I have a list but I can't even add it |
| [21:45:38] | pjcrux: | when I do hit escape it doesn't hold the settings |
| [21:45:50] | wagnerrp: | hitting up or down doesnt let you select things? |
| [21:46:02] | pjcrux: | yes it does but the settings do not hold |
| [21:46:12] | wagnerrp: | this is in mythtv-setup, right? |
| [21:46:30] | pjcrux: | I go back to a standard settings page my are not held |
| [21:46:32] | pjcrux: | correct |
| [21:46:54] | wagnerrp: | once you finish out a sequence of pages, the settings are immediately stored to the database |
| [21:47:03] | pjcrux: | ok |
| [21:47:15] | wagnerrp: | if the settings are not holding, then you have something horribly broken with your database |
| [21:47:21] | wagnerrp: | i cannot begin to imagine what |
| [21:47:34] | pjcrux: | how do I wipe the database or restart |
| [21:47:42] | wagnerrp: | just delete it |
| [21:47:48] | wagnerrp: | 'drop database mythconverg' |
| [21:47:52] | wagnerrp: | and start back at the beginning |
| [21:48:14] | pjcrux: | -bash: drop database mythconverg: command not found |
| [21:48:16] | wagnerrp: | that would be something like 'mysql < mythtv.sql' or something like that |
| [21:48:22] | wagnerrp: | in mysql, not bash |
| [21:48:31] | wagnerrp: | and you have to end it with a ';' |
| [21:48:57] | pjcrux: | wagnerrp: forgive me but I am not very familiar with command line can you walk me through it |
| [21:49:25] | wagnerrp: | mysql <enter> drop database mythconverg; <enter> quit <enter> |
| [21:50:05] | pjcrux: | ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
| [21:50:19] | wagnerrp: | well i dont know what your mysql password is |
| [21:50:34] | pjcrux: | I've never set one up |
| [21:50:46] | wagnerrp: | then your distro was nice enough to set one up for you |
| [21:50:52] | pjcrux: | crap ok |
| [21:51:00] | pjcrux: | using F10 x86_64 |
| [21:51:02] | wagnerrp: | youll have to question someone who knows about your distro to find out where it stored the password |
| [21:51:10] | pjcrux: | ok |
| [21:51:32] | iamlindoro: | justinh, Hey, is there any chance you want to release your rotation/Fx framework patch into the wind so that it could be used to build on? |
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| [21:53:03] | justinh: | iamlindoro: I was thinking about tidying it up a bit |
| [21:53:15] | justinh: | if I ever get some time to myself round here |
| [21:53:50] | iamlindoro: | justinh, OK. started to look at things like GL crossfades and it seemed silly to reinvent the wheel |
| [21:54:19] | ** wagnerrp performs his daily cleanse of russian spam from his inbox ** | |
| [21:54:20] | iamlindoro: | Would like to get themer-controlled texture transforms in there for stuff like fanart/etc. |
| [21:57:49] | justinh: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/diffs/ |
| [21:58:49] | iamlindoro: | Got them, thanks |
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| [22:02:11] | russk: | lirc irrecord won't learn the OK button on my remote |
| [22:02:22] | russk: | with a USB-UIRT2 |
| [22:02:43] | [R]: | but it works with every other button? |
| [22:03:17] | Dagmar: | [R]: Now you've gone and confused him |
| [22:03:17] | russk: | I got the numbers to work but with many others it says, "Sorry, something went wrong. Try again." |
| [22:03:49] | Dagmar: | http://www.usbuirt.com/support.htm |
| [22:03:50] | [R]: | so sounds like its a problem with lirc |
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| [22:05:19] | justinh: | iamlindoro: heads up on the struct.. I never figured out how to initialise it properly. and the definition of the rotate attrib could do with being wider ranging – as in not just for imagetypes ;) |
| [22:05:29] | kormoc: | or the hardware is broken or it's not supported or or or or or or or or or |
| [22:07:21] | wagnerrp: | seems people are claiming nvidia's Fermi board at the recent GPU conference was a fake |
| [22:07:30] | wagnerrp: | who cares? |
| [22:08:20] | AndyCap: | wagnerrp: the people who bought one. :P |
| [22:08:37] | wagnerrp: | its a mock up... its what the card WILL look like |
| [22:08:47] | wagnerrp: | when it finally is released in a couple months |
| [22:09:01] | AndyCap: | and recalled, and bug fixed, and re-released. |
| [22:09:11] | Greek-Boy: | I am so thankful that MythVideo has parental control. :-) |
| [22:09:21] | AndyCap: | From Tesla to Fermi, where can they go next? |
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| [22:11:59] | wagnerrp: | Plank? |
| [22:12:09] | AndyCap: | Hofstadter! |
| [22:12:16] | wagnerrp: | Bohr |
| [22:12:28] | AndyCap: | and then Rubbia |
| [22:13:14] | AndyCap: | (this is all ignoring the fact that Tesla never got the nobel prize) |
| [22:14:00] | wagnerrp: | that was a marconi conspiracy |
| [22:14:57] | iamlindoro: | If you get Bohr'd, you can just Rubbia Planck. |
| [22:15:04] | iamlindoro: | until you become Fermi |
| [22:15:49] | wagnerrp: | the creepy guy down the street will pay you a nikola if he can watch |
| [22:16:10] | iamlindoro: | well done |
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| [22:16:21] | AndyCap: | O_o |
| [22:16:44] | Dibblah: | wagnerrp: It's allegedly been admitted to be a fake. |
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| [22:16:49] | AndyCap: | I'm sure nvidia feels their tesla was unappreciated too. |
| [22:17:00] | AndyCap: | Dibblah: allegedly admitted. haha :) |
| [22:17:30] | Dibblah: | As in someone said that an executive at NV said... Which is not exactly horses mouth. |
| [22:17:58] | AndyCap: | not even a horses behind. |
| [22:18:14] | AndyCap: | probably something in the bovine family. |
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| [22:22:37] | wagnerrp: | so no one is going to try to fit 'hofstadter' in there? |
| [22:23:46] | iamlindoro: | I'm Curie-ous as to how |
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| [22:27:23] | Greek-Boy: | anybody here gota Harmony 880 remote control? |
| [22:27:28] | wagnerrp: | uh huh |
| [22:28:04] | Greek-Boy: | wagnerrp: nice ... |
| [22:28:11] | Greek-Boy: | wagnerrp: Which receiver do u use for it? |
| [22:28:16] | dustybin: | zfs --remove wagnerrp@localhost |
| [22:30:24] | iamlindoro: | deluser dustybin PeopleAllowedToBreatheMyAir |
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| [22:31:01] | dustybin: | PeopleAllowedToBreatheMyAir .... UNKNOWN COMMAND ... [FAIL] |
| [22:31:09] | wagnerrp: | Greek-Boy: used to use a hauppauge gray, currently use a mceusb2 |
| [22:31:15] | sphery: | If a certain MythWeb maintainer were here, I'd ask him if I should refer the guy in "[mythtv-users] Mythweb. Just one SLOOOOW part" ( http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2009 . . . /265881.html ) to #7142 ( http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . 98896#398896 ) |
| [22:31:31] | iamlindoro: | maybe you should go look up basic user and group maintenance commands before trying to use ZFS |
| [22:31:47] | wagnerrp: | dustybin: just what is '--remove' supposed to do? |
| [22:31:52] | dustybin: | i made it up |
| [22:32:04] | wagnerrp: | any why would i label a snapshot 'localhost' |
| [22:32:12] | iamlindoro: | sphery, kormoc kormoc kormoc kormoc kormoc |
| [22:32:14] | wagnerrp: | or have a storage pool named after myself |
| [22:32:22] | sphery: | you pinged him... |
| [22:32:24] | dustybin: | lol you guys are true geeks |
| [22:32:25] | wagnerrp: | x-ris x-ris |
| [22:32:25] | sphery: | for a bad joke at that |
| [22:32:31] | iamlindoro: | sphery, duhhhh |
| [22:32:32] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [22:32:50] | wagnerrp: | oh its a dustybin, the dustybin is going to bother you |
| [22:33:07] | sphery: | and, unlike a good submarine captain, you did it with more than "a single ping" |
| [22:33:22] | iamlindoro: | I'm no Marko Rameus |
| [22:33:23] | dustybin: | my god |
| [22:33:26] | dustybin: | 94% |
| [22:33:31] | dustybin: | holy lord |
| [22:33:51] | sphery: | if you were, I'd have known you'd turn to the left--since it's after the half hour |
| [22:34:23] | wagnerrp: | sphery: you didnt just guess that, because you needed a break? |
| [22:34:36] | sphery: | shhh |
| [22:34:37] | iamlindoro: | however, your conclusions about were all wrong, Halsey acted SHHHHHHHHHtupidly |
| [22:35:00] | dustybin: | i rememeber .21 went stable before it reached 100%, im pretty sure it was only 96/97% |
| [22:35:34] | iamlindoro: | If dustybin were more astute, he could find out the exact release date, but since he prefers to look at arbitrary and useless percentages... |
| [22:35:57] | sphery: | oops... I had that backwards: "Jack Ryan: No. Because he always goes to starboard in the bottom half of the hour." |
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| [22:37:45] | wagnerrp: | but what time zone? |
| [22:40:05] | sphery: | yeah, and is the bottom half of the hour based on an analog clock's top/bottom or based on "last 30 mins"? |
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| [22:42:47] | Josh_: | "configure" is telling me that its not going to compile mythtv trunk with alsa support. How do I figure out what it's looking for to get support? alsa-base and alsa-utils are already installed. |
| [22:43:04] | wagnerrp: | likely 'headers', or 'dev' |
| [22:43:07] | Dagmar: | Is this a trick question? |
| [22:43:17] | justinh: | is he not on everybody's ignore list still? |
| [22:43:25] | Dagmar: | is who and for what? |
| [22:43:47] | justinh: | bustydin |
| [22:45:01] | _ben: | who is this dustybin person? |
| [22:45:02] | justinh: | then again, I'm one to talk. I rise to the resident troll every time our paths cross |
| [22:45:47] | _ben: | btw justinh, I was picking up 2 transmitters hence the conflicts in channel numbers :/ |
| [22:45:52] | iamlindoro: | justinh, It's harder to ignore that one, he passes himself off as the channel authority and then gives advice that will break people's setups |
| [22:46:57] | justinh: | _ben: ouchy |
| [22:46:59] | wagnerrp: | yes, by all means go manually tinkering around in your channels table |
| [22:47:24] | wagnerrp: | after all, thats certainly the proper way to add channels |
| [22:47:32] | _ben: | huh? |
| [22:47:38] | sphery: | gbee: I'm starting to think your "replace things that look like tickets or changesets in messages" macro/script/whatever may have an issue where if 2 are mentioned in the same line, it rewrites both the same way... Your 7052 vs 7072 confusion was the 2nd time I've seen you think they were the same--my 6916 and 6917 one being the first) |
| [22:47:39] | wagnerrp: | not towards you |
| [22:47:45] | justinh: | I'm just especially glad my home address isn't googleable anymore :) |
| [22:48:07] | wagnerrp: | justinh: you get people showing up wanting help with themes? |
| [22:48:32] | gbee: | sphery: ahh, hmm, yeah that explains it |
| [22:48:47] | gbee: | and there I was, thinking that laga was blind |
| [22:48:53] | sphery: | heh |
| [22:48:59] | sphery: | I saw what laga saw |
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| [22:50:47] | justinh: | wagnerrp: no, but one day you can inadvertently invoke a pyschotic episode on the internets. it helps if your residence info isn't immediately available ;) |
| [22:52:16] | sphery: | gbee: I can make you an irssi script to do it :) |
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| [22:53:03] | gbee: | I like my irc client with a little less curses |
| [22:53:22] | gbee: | HEADS UP – Translators have a week to submit new patches for inclusion in 0.22 |
| [22:54:06] | justinh: | _ben: think yourself lucky anyway. mate of mine who uses MCE pulls in two transmitters. He has little control over what he can scan without hacking the registry afterwards. ho ho ho |
| [22:54:38] | _ben: | heh |
| [22:54:51] | justinh: | and folks used to criticise mythtv for using a database. jees at least it's human-readable :P |
| [22:55:16] | wagnerrp: | i guess that means i should clean up whatever i want in python in the next few days? |
| [22:55:22] | justinh: | that's interesting actually. nobody seems to whine about needing mysql anymore :) |
| [22:55:40] | _ben: | i don't get people's beef with mysql |
| [22:55:49] | justinh: | _ben: nor did anybody here |
| [22:56:00] | wagnerrp: | its an added complexity that 'a simple dvr shouldnt need' |
| [22:56:08] | _ben: | mysql has it's faults but for mythtv – it's fine |
| [22:56:10] | sphery: | justinh: that's a good idea... we should take all of this config out of the MySQL DB and put it in the registry |
| [22:56:35] | justinh: | sphery: nah, a flat binary file, compressed to save space |
| [22:56:45] | sphery: | good plan |
| [22:56:55] | wagnerrp: | oh yes, have to save that space |
| [22:57:02] | wagnerrp: | i might want to use that 100MB elsewhere |
| [22:57:15] | sphery: | and beyond compression, just store things in a tight encoding--i.e. if we have 8 binarys, use the 8 bits of a byte for them |
| [22:57:52] | justinh: | hell yeah. if anybody needs to decypher it they can read the source |
| [22:58:02] | sphery: | exactly |
| [22:58:04] | ** _ben has been doing lots of testing with MySQL 5.4 at work and is liking it so far ** | |
| [22:58:24] | justinh: | I wish qt 4.6 was here already |
| [22:58:24] | sphery: | _ben: have you used the "fast MySQL" thing |
| [22:58:29] | wagnerrp: | is 6 released yet? or is it still in testing? |
| [22:58:33] | justinh: | or even *near* being here |
| [22:58:34] | _ben: | percona or whatever? |
| [22:58:59] | sphery: | Drizzle |
| [22:59:12] | iamlindoro: | Fo' Drizzle my Nizzle |
| [22:59:16] | _ben: | nope |
| [22:59:27] | sphery: | kor moc said he played with it |
| [22:59:32] | _ben: | does it have commercial support? |
| [22:59:40] | iamlindoro: | I think you misspelled kormoc |
| [22:59:41] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [22:59:43] | sphery: | it's still early |
| [22:59:59] | sphery: | https://launchpad.net/drizzle |
| [23:00:12] | _ben: | anyway, 5.4 seems less retarded as MySQL AB have seen the light and included 3rd party patches |
| [23:00:22] | _ben: | (huzzah) |
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| [23:01:55] | sphery: | and http://drizzle.org/ and http://drizzle.org/wiki/MySQL_Differences |
| [23:02:21] | ** _ben looks ** | |
| [23:02:23] | sphery: | I have to wonder if it's really a microkernel or if it's a modular kernel... |
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| [23:06:39] | justinh: | O M G http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVzzF_ft7uc&am . . . channel_page |
| [23:07:24] | gbee: | "Drizzle is not designed for embedded use." "There is no Windows version." just two of the things which mark it out as being unsuitable for myth, but there are others |
| [23:07:54] | wagnerrp: | are we ever planning on having a full windows backend? |
| [23:07:55] | gbee: | e.g. it's specifically designed for backing web applications |
| [23:08:17] | gbee: | wagnerrp: different from what we have now? |
| [23:08:19] | iamlindoro: | justinh, ooooohhh |
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| [23:08:33] | justinh: | iamlindoro: quite |
| [23:08:37] | wagnerrp: | well currently, the backend runs but theres no tuner support is there? |
| [23:08:53] | justinh: | wagnerrp: IP tuners :) |
| [23:09:02] | iamlindoro: | justinh, OpenGL->Default, Qt Painter->Fire |
| [23:09:22] | gbee: | wagnerrp: just HD Homerun until someone writes a win driver interface |
| [23:09:29] | justinh: | iamlindoro: with qt4.6 you prolly don't even need different painters |
| [23:09:45] | wagnerrp: | that is amazingly fast for a software painter |
| [23:09:52] | justinh: | actually from what I read you technically don't need it for 4.5 either |
| [23:10:19] | justinh: | but for the kind of speed we need, talk about 4.6 |
| [23:10:27] | sphery: | gbee: that won't stop people from using it for myth :) |
| [23:10:36] | sphery: | justinh: that looks nice. |
| [23:11:04] | wagnerrp: | so... all you need to do in qt4.6 is click the 'opengl' button? |
| [23:11:26] | sphery: | iamlindoro: there's no way you could animate the fire quickly enough with Qt to make a theme worth paying for... Gotta have that OpenGL--or Flash, of course. |
| [23:11:40] | iamlindoro: | It's visual communication |
| [23:11:42] | justinh: | I think he meant fire as in dying in a fire |
| [23:11:50] | sphery: | :) |
| [23:11:59] | iamlindoro: | I wonder if Arclight will be worth paying for |
| [23:12:02] | iamlindoro: | since people will have to :) |
| [23:12:17] | justinh: | thought it was just for the fonz |
| [23:13:06] | iamlindoro: | Eyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| [23:13:06] | justinh: | arghhh my install is broken |
| [23:13:31] | wagnerrp: | sphery: updating (past the replex revert) didnt change anything with that transcode |
| [23:13:35] | wagnerrp: | it still fails at the same point |
| [23:13:51] | sphery: | probably worth a ticket |
| [23:14:38] | KS0FT: | hello when i click on 'Watch TV' from the myth front end on my ubuntu desktop, it just goes blank |
| [23:14:54] | KS0FT: | though i scanned the channels successfully , can someone help me with this configuration error? |
| [23:15:14] | wagnerrp: | sphery: any easy way to chop that out? just 'dd' with an offset? |
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| [23:17:48] | [R]: | KS0FT: what errors do you get from the frontend output |
| [23:18:10] | [R]: | KS0FT: that wasn't an invitation |
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| [23:27:24] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I'm not the guy to ask. I'd guess it's worth a try for MPEG-2, though. |
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| [23:27:40] | sphery: | there has to be someone else in here more up to speed on transcoding and video than me |
| [23:28:28] | NineTeen67Comet: | Is there a way to add more weather sources to MythWeather? I live in Japan on an American base. It shows a town "semi-close" but only for Current Conditions, Static Map and Animated Map. I would like to add more detail like the 18 hour and Six Day. |
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| [23:32:46] | sphery: | NineTeen67Comet: if you can find a legal source of data, you can add it to mythweb--it just takes scripts for each area |
| [23:33:44] | wagnerrp: | sphery: dd seems to have worked just fine, but playback on the sample seems fine, as does a scan with dgindex |
| [23:34:14] | wagnerrp: | i believe it is at the right spot, because an ad starts halfway though |
| [23:34:25] | NineTeen67Comet: | sphery: Okay, I'll peek around. Looks like even when I search Japan it comes up with city name/UK .. lol |
| [23:34:37] | wagnerrp: | any other programs anyone can suggest that do an mpeg2 sanity check? |
| [23:37:25] | NineTeen67Comet: | wagnerrp: I don't know what your issue is, but I've been having issues with some movies having sound sync issues in mplayer (vlc works great). |
| [23:38:51] | gbee: | BBC grabber search may be broken for international locations |
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| [23:45:09] | android60: | I'm trying to backup my dvds, will mythtv read iso files without me having to mount them and all that? or should I do them as avi files? |
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| [23:48:47] | sphery: | Myth reads ISO rips |
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| [23:49:52] | EnterUserName: | hey |
| [23:49:59] | pat_: | mythvideo reads iso files just fine |
| [23:50:21] | iamlindoro: | *Unless one is using trunk + storage Groups |
| [23:50:30] | EnterUserName: | is anyone using nuveport with jaunty? |
| [23:51:11] | EnterUserName: | i cant get it to work.. |
| [23:51:22] | EnterUserName: | is there a newer version of nuvexport tjhen aprils? |
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| [23:57:04] | adante: | hey guys, where do i go to enable auto transcoding again? |
| [23:57:31] | adante: | can't remember if it is in mythtv-setup or mythtv now |
| [23:58:32] | adante: | oh, found it in recording profiles heh |
| [23:58:51] | adante: | does this apply retroactively to existing recording schedules (e.g. record simpsons every day)? |
| [23:59:22] | adante: | only ask because i remember it didn't use to, but that was a while ago before recording groups existed |
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