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| [00:00:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: sphery – Yeah, my truck isn't capable of using it anyways, so I just drove right by... ^^ +1 on diesel |
| [00:00:19] | GreyFoxx: | Even the algae fuels require vast stretches of open water for the moment |
| [00:00:29] | wagnerrp: | and sphery, the navy has an abundance of power, due to nuclear reactors |
| [00:00:43] | josh_: | J-e-f-f-A, We're about to get screwed with diesel engines soon as well. |
| [00:00:43] | sphery: | (actually using CO2 that's dissolved in water combined with H2 that's split from H20 molecules using electrolysis powered by nuke reactors) |
| [00:00:45] | wagnerrp: | being able to generate their own jet fuel means they need less of a supply train |
| [00:01:00] | wagnerrp: | they are more self reliant |
| [00:01:03] | sphery: | wagnerrp: yeah, just more fun to pretend like the news was right |
| [00:01:19] | GreyFoxx: | hehe accurate reporting for the masses ? Never! |
| [00:01:29] | josh_: | J-e-f-f-A, All this new Ultra-low sulfur diesel doesnt have the top end lubrication that the old stuff has |
| [00:01:43] | GreyFoxx: | It's needs a little zing, a whizbang to get their attention :) |
| [00:01:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | diesel in the northeast was WAY higher than unleaded for a year or two... When gas prices nearly doubled, diesel went up with it, but came down MUCH slower, it's almost the same now again. |
| [00:02:08] | sphery: | is it the same or still about a 15% premium? |
| [00:02:08] | josh_: | J-e-f-f-A, which sucks because Diesel is a byproduct of the gasoline refining process. |
| [00:02:28] | josh_: | Diesel is 2.80 ish a gallon down here in Houston. |
| [00:02:46] | josh_: | Gasoline s around 2.60 |
| [00:03:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: It varies a bit, but I've seen it about the same as 'standard' Unleaded, or a few cents higher or lower. Gas is 2.59/gallon here now, deisel is about the same. |
| [00:03:24] | sphery: | nice |
| [00:04:05] | ** J-e-f-f-A is glad it's the middle of the night in the UK so they don't beat us up for mentioning our US gas prices... ** | |
| [00:04:41] | wagnerrp: | josh_: thats not at all the case |
| [00:04:51] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: true... |
| [00:04:59] | wagnerrp: | diesel and gasoline are both byproducts of refining crude |
| [00:05:17] | wagnerrp: | you can tweak the process and get more of one mixture or another |
| [00:05:29] | josh_: | wagnerrp, but you get the base stock for Diesel fuel first. |
| [00:05:44] | josh_: | Its a lower spout on the evaporation tower :) |
| [00:05:53] | AndyCap: | cracking ftw! |
| [00:05:57] | wagnerrp: | because its a denser, thicker mixture |
| [00:06:10] | wagnerrp: | closer to the original crude |
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| [00:06:43] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hey, there's a thought... MythGasPrices plugin... ;-) |
| [00:06:57] | ** laga beats up J-e-f-f-A ** | |
| [00:07:10] | ** J-e-f-f-A runs and hides... ;-) ** | |
| [00:07:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | laga: You're not supposed to be up this late !!!! ;-) |
| [00:08:55] | wagnerrp: | i mean by that logic you could claim gasoline was a byproduct of refining kerosene |
| [00:10:21] | laga: | i think it's a byproduct of refining crude oil |
| [00:10:39] | wagnerrp: | laga: that was my argument |
| [00:11:00] | laga: | wagnerrp: is kerosene == crude oil? just wondering |
| [00:11:31] | wagnerrp: | no, josh_ said diesel was a byproduct of refining gasoline |
| [00:11:39] | laga: | ah |
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| [00:19:22] | android6011: | I have an analog tuner and a digital tuner card and I have them set up for 2 different sources. when i change channels only the 1st source shows up, but if i type in a channel for the 2nd tuner they show up. is there a way to have them auto show up? |
| [00:20:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | Bring up the on-screen channel guide. Or just don't use LiveTV... ;-) |
| [00:21:39] | sphery: | or, I think, use 0.22 when it's released |
| [00:21:40] | wagnerrp: | you need to change to the second tuner for it to tune on the other set of channels |
| [00:21:59] | wagnerrp: | i do believe there is a mode you can check off that allows you to tune across tuners |
| [00:22:04] | wagnerrp: | it used to be a patch in trac |
| [00:22:07] | sphery: | right, but trunk only |
| [00:22:12] | wagnerrp: | but as sphery mentioned, it seems to be in trunk now |
| [00:22:34] | android6011: | 30 |
| [00:22:38] | android6011: | oops |
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| [00:23:02] | wagnerrp: | 22, 47, HIKE |
| [00:23:19] | android6011: | heh |
| [00:23:52] | android6011: | whenever i try to update to .22 trunk, the frontend always closes with no indication in either back or frontend logs as to why except "segmentation fault" |
| [00:24:07] | caseyd: | anyone have time to look at a newbys log -> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fcbe9823 ... I Just did all the set up, scanned and got all the channels, it downloaded a load of program guide, and I hit Watch TV, it goes black for a bit then back to the menu. Thanks =) |
| [00:24:22] | wagnerrp: | you know trunk is a one-way trip right? |
| [00:24:29] | nuonguy: | since upgrading to F11 (which seems to have forced pulseaudio) I get a lot of audio/video synch problems; is pulseaudio the cause? |
| [00:24:39] | android6011: | ya i know, i have a clonezilla image before upgrading i always revert to |
| [00:24:41] | wagnerrp: | nuonguy: very possibly |
| [00:24:43] | caseyd: | that was odd.. did anyone see my message |
| [00:24:53] | caseyd: | anyone have time to look at a newbys log -> http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/fcbe9823 ... |
| [00:24:53] | android6011: | yes |
| [00:25:01] | caseyd: | I Just did all the set up, scanned and got all the channels, it downloaded a load of program guide, and I hit Watch TV, it goes black for a bit then back to the menu. Thanks =) |
| [00:25:05] | wagnerrp: | trunk forcibly disables pulseaudio when you start the frontend |
| [00:25:21] | nuonguy: | is there a documented way to leave pulseaudio installed but disabled so I can test that? |
| [00:25:39] | nuonguy: | wagnerrp, that's an option right? |
| [00:25:40] | wagnerrp: | caseyd: did you run mythtv-setup under a different user than mythbackend? |
| [00:25:57] | wagnerrp: | is it possible you have a file permissions issue, either on the tuner or on the storage directory? |
| [00:26:13] | caseyd: | wagnerrp, no i only have the one user |
| [00:26:21] | wagnerrp: | nuonguy: no, it is not optional, mythfrontend will attempt to disable pulseaudio, and in failing to do so, will refuse to open |
| [00:26:33] | wagnerrp: | caseyd: all linux systems will have dozens of users |
| [00:26:39] | nuonguy: | wagnerrp, that might work for me, but that seems a bit harsh |
| [00:27:06] | wagnerrp: | nuonguy: the pulseaudio docs state that if you use certain functions of ALSA, you are not to use pulseaudio |
| [00:27:08] | android6011: | by the pastebin link he is using mythbuntu, if he followed standard setup it only asks for one user. |
| [00:27:08] | sphery: | caseyd: # |
| [00:27:09] | nighthawk: | this jamu.py util, do I need to specify the directories in the conf, or does it pull them from the myth db? |
| [00:27:09] | sphery: | 2009-08–21 19:10:52.283 NVR(/dev/video0): Unknown video codec. Please go into the TV Settings, Recording Profiles and setup the four 'Software Encoders' profiles. Assuming RTjpeg for now. |
| [00:27:11] | wagnerrp: | mythfrontend uses those functions |
| [00:27:15] | caseyd: | wagnerrp, okay, linux newby =) .. i've only logged in as the one user, it auto logs me in after installing muthubuntu |
| [00:27:34] | wagnerrp: | well mythbuntu should walk you though their own setup process |
| [00:27:37] | sphery: | caseyd: you need to set up your capture card and encoding profiles properly |
| [00:27:38] | ** Captain_Murdoch wonders if 10 minutes is some kind of record for a user opening a ticket and the patch being committed and the ticket closed. ** | |
| [00:27:46] | wagnerrp: | and should not have permissions issues |
| [00:27:49] | android6011: | caseyd: try doing a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in mythbuntu, then try rerunning mythtv-setup . something i have issues with it after first reboot after install |
| [00:27:50] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: nice |
| [00:28:07] | nuonguy: | wagnerrp, I was not aware of that |
| [00:28:19] | Captain_Murdoch: | would have been quicker but I had to do that recompile because of Daniel's commit. :) |
| [00:28:45] | nuonguy: | wagnerrp, are you talking about http://pulseaudio.org/ticket/94 ? |
| [00:28:50] | sphery: | caseyd: you're system is misconfigured... see the log message I pasted that shows that |
| [00:29:15] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: still /very/ impressive |
| [00:29:17] | wagnerrp: | nuonguy: i dont know the specifics, i just know that under most scenarios, pulseaudio is not able to properly maintain sync |
| [00:29:28] | caseyd: | i see in the log where it says to go to tv settings and set up the four recording profiles, I did that |
| [00:29:32] | wagnerrp: | and with how myth functions, it is possible to get up to several seconds out of sync |
| [00:30:14] | sphery: | caseyd: and you restarted mythbackend and mythfrontend after? |
| [00:30:46] | sphery: | caseyd: and you didn't do something completely wrong like set up an ivtv card calling it a V4L card? |
| [00:31:01] | caseyd: | im not sure what settings I should be choosing either, RTjpeg or Mpeg-4 |
| [00:31:03] | sphery: | because it thinks you have a dumb frame grabber |
| [00:31:43] | sphery: | caseyd: based on configuration: driver=ivtv latency=64 maxlatency=8 mingnt=128 module=ivtv , I'd say you just need to start over |
| [00:31:55] | sphery: | caseyd: and this time don't set up your ivtv card as a v4l card |
| [00:32:15] | sphery: | caseyd: to start over, do the capture card portion of: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [00:32:27] | caseyd: | i have a wintv-pvr-150 |
| [00:32:29] | sphery: | make sure you choose "Delete all capture cards" |
| [00:32:42] | sphery: | right, but you set it up as a V4L frame grabber |
| [00:32:50] | caseyd: | okay, thanks =) |
| [00:33:36] | sphery: | caseyd: select "MPEG-2 encoder card (PVR-x50, PVR-500)" when setting up the card |
| [00:33:48] | sphery: | caseyd: not "Analog V4L capture card" |
| [00:34:06] | sphery: | (and not "MJPEG capture card (Matrox G200, DC10)") |
| [00:34:39] | nuonguy: | to disable pulseaudio, would it be enough to remove /etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf and install /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf ? |
| [00:34:59] | wagnerrp: | nuonguy: you dont have to install alsa |
| [00:35:02] | wagnerrp: | alsa is already installed |
| [00:35:09] | wagnerrp: | pulseaudio is merely a sound server |
| [00:35:19] | nuonguy: | wagnerrp, what I mean is, copy /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf to /etc/alsa/ ? |
| [00:35:21] | wagnerrp: | just another layer of abstraction that most users do not need |
| [00:35:34] | wagnerrp: | meaning alsa is already completely set up and functional |
| [00:35:48] | nuonguy: | indeed |
| [00:35:55] | wagnerrp: | because pulseaudio does not have any hardware drivers of its own, and needs to interface with alsa to function |
| [00:36:04] | nuonguy: | I see |
| [00:36:23] | wagnerrp: | so all trunk does is disable pulseaudio, and access the alsa interfaces directly |
| [00:37:04] | nuonguy: | very nice |
| [00:37:46] | nuonguy: | I used to rpm -U all the pulseaudio RPMs but that doesn't work anymore, way too many packages get uninstalled if try that |
| [00:39:10] | laga: | yeah, everything should depend on pulseaudio. because it's that awesome |
| [00:39:32] | nighthawk: | this jamu script blows up on me: configuration.validate_setVariables(['FAKE SERIES NAME','FAKE EPISODE NAME']) |
| [00:39:37] | sphery: | -fixes also disables Pulse |
| [00:39:41] | sphery: | (current -fixes that is) |
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| [00:42:25] | nuonguy: | laga, that's the downside of the distro I use |
| [00:42:51] | wagnerrp: | laga: what does pulseaudio get you? |
| [00:43:45] | laga: | wagnerrp: i burned it with fire. |
| [00:43:57] | laga: | wagnerrp: i was being sarcastic |
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| [00:44:15] | wagnerrp: | we dont need no water, let the MF burn? |
| [00:44:42] | laga: | heh, yeah |
| [00:45:33] | nuonguy: | I'm dissatisfied with pulseaudio myself, but is that kind of anger warranted? |
| [00:45:35] | laga: | tried it, laughed, rm'ed it. i personally do not need it. yes, there might be use cases. no, i don't care. :) |
| [00:46:00] | wagnerrp: | nuonguy: its a sound server |
| [00:46:13] | laga: | nuonguy: does stance regarding pulseaudio matter? ;) those who want it can use it, those who don't can uninstall it |
| [00:46:16] | wagnerrp: | the only reason for a sound server is if you want to abstract access to the sound hardware |
| [00:46:28] | wagnerrp: | which is good if you want to move between multiple outputs |
| [00:46:39] | wagnerrp: | or want to play audio on a remote system over the network |
| [00:46:49] | wagnerrp: | both of which are rather extreme cases |
| [00:46:52] | nuonguy: | I like the promise of pulseaudio, particularly that I can play in my living room from another computer on my network |
| [00:46:52] | laga: | i *believe* that the mixer is better than what alsa dmix gets you |
| [00:47:09] | wagnerrp: | and are not reason to make something like that default on a distro |
| [00:47:21] | nuonguy: | wagnerrp, very strongly agree |
| [00:47:33] | wagnerrp: | thats no to say i like alsa, every time ive tried to much with that leads me to believe it is an overcomplicated CF |
| [00:47:59] | wagnerrp: | but at least it actually serves a purpose of supporting real hardware |
| [00:48:05] | wagnerrp: | pulseaudio has no hardware drivers |
| [00:50:09] | Dagmar: | It manages to suck entirely on it's own merit. |
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| [01:02:46] | nuonguy: | I don't want to reboot right now, but I'll try removing /etc/alsa/pulse-default.conf and replacing it with /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf |
| [01:02:49] | Cyber-Dogg: | howdy |
| [01:03:18] | caseyd: | okay so after sphery's help its doing something a little different, now when you click Watch TV it just flash for a second and back to the menu. new log; http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f70ccd0ef Thanks |
| [01:03:59] | sphery: | Could not get inputs for the capturecard. Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video sources to your card's inputs? / ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database. |
| [01:04:14] | sphery: | seems you didn't get the card set up after deleting the old ones |
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| [01:30:56] | Dagmar: | I know this is somewhat unrelated but does anyone have any idea why VLC suddenly started sucking when it went 1.0? |
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| [01:35:39] | caseyd: | now I have a fun log to read, http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f3eccd50a |
| [01:35:55] | DougSouth: | how does mythwelcome determine that it should automatically start the front end if the option is enabled? |
| [01:36:31] | ** DougSouth thinks that mythwelcome has started the frontend on a couple of occasions when the machine has woken up to record only :( ** | |
| [01:37:23] | J-e-f-f-A: | DougSouth: How would it determine if you didn't want to watch something? |
| [01:37:47] | DougSouth: | if was turned on and something was about to record? |
| [01:37:58] | ** J-e-f-f-A doesn't use MythWelcome, so... ** | |
| [01:38:03] | ** DougSouth uses the mythe wake stuff ** | |
| [01:38:28] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: was it you who was getting the uint64_t error? |
| [01:38:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | I just run my backend 24x7 and occasionally use it as a frontend too, but not that often. ;-) |
| [01:38:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: Yeah. |
| [01:38:37] | Shadow__X: | hey J-e-f-f-A |
| [01:38:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | Shadow__X: How's it going? ;-) |
| [01:39:12] | Shadow__X: | pretty good got a small mac here ;) not hd capable but still good stuff and you |
| [01:39:18] | DougSouth: | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Inst . . . ext/ACPIWake |
| [01:39:18] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: might have a test for you in a bit |
| [01:40:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: cool. I just did an svn up, looks like a few things got commited the last hour or so, but not ClassicCommDetector... ;-) |
| [01:40:40] | sphery: | yeah, I may know what it is, but I don't think my gcc cares... someone else is getting the issue, too |
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| [01:41:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ah, ok. ;-) |
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| [01:42:33] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: This is an FC11 box btw... if it makes a difference (it may...) |
| [01:42:35] | DougSouth: | bah, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythwelcome looks horribly out of date... |
| [01:43:40] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: gcc 4.4.x? |
| [01:45:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: Yep.. Gcc 4.4.0 (Red Hat 4.4.0–4) |
| [01:46:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: Looks like 4.4.1–2 is available – should I upgrade it? |
| [01:46:30] | josh_: | So, stupid question – There's not a 0.22-fixes tree yet? |
| [01:46:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | josh_: There is no 0.22 version to have a 0.22-fixes branch yet... |
| [01:46:59] | josh_: | If I want something that could be mistaken as 0.22, I'd need to run trunk? |
| [01:47:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | trunk will become 0.22 when it's released. |
| [01:47:41] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: this should fix (that one) file: http://misc.thirdcontact.com/MythTV/mythtv-in . . . tector.patch (but there may be others needing similar fixes after a recent change) |
| [01:47:51] | josh_: | I'm told by a few people that the current trunk is very usable right now. |
| [01:47:52] | Shadow__X: | trunk isnt 100 percent dont yet josh_ so it is recommended to run .21-fixes and wait as trunk should be ready in the near future |
| [01:48:11] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: no, I just guess 4.4.x because it seems that newer gcc's are more picky |
| [01:48:51] | josh_: | Shadow__X, That's what I had been stalling for, but a few people recommended the upgrade today. |
| [01:49:16] | Shadow__X: | unless you are a dev it is recommended to wait |
| [01:49:27] | Shadow__X: | as there are things that arent done yet and can cause problems |
| [01:49:44] | Shadow__X: | i know that things are getting done but still unless you know what your doing |
| [01:49:49] | Shadow__X: | stay with .21fixes |
| [01:50:37] | sphery: | 0.21-fixes will be easier to set up for the first time, then switching to 0.22 won't be very difficult when 0.22 is ready |
| [01:50:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: Ok, trying a compile now, looks much more promising! |
| [01:50:49] | sphery: | going to trunk, now, is probably more difficult |
| [01:51:01] | josh_: | sphery, I've already got a 0.21 running instal. |
| [01:51:03] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: cool... let me know if you encounter others needing similar fix |
| [01:51:14] | josh_: | sphery, and correct, it was relatively easy to set up |
| [01:51:17] | sphery: | josh_: in that case, it's /really/ easy to get set up :) |
| [01:51:31] | sphery: | (meaning you have nothing left to set up on it :) |
| [01:51:40] | josh_: | oh, wow. |
| [01:51:46] | josh_: | everything autodetected? |
| [01:51:54] | josh_: | or uPNP? |
| [01:52:07] | sphery: | no just meaning that since you have 0.21 already running, it's already set up |
| [01:52:13] | sphery: | sorry, really bad joke |
| [01:52:19] | Shadow__X: | :( |
| [01:52:32] | josh_: | sphery, oh, bleh |
| [01:53:07] | caseyd: | okay, if I get a blue screen + audio and a log like this.. is there anything i can do : http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f2afdbbac |
| [01:53:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, it compiled and things are working... ;-) |
| [01:53:21] | sphery: | cool.. thanks for the feedback |
| [01:54:03] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: thanks, dude. ;-) |
| [01:54:12] | sphery: | enjoy |
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| [01:59:19] | Dagmar: | Seriously tho... Before VLC hit 1.0 it would play just about anything including in-progress mpeg recordings from myth |
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| [02:05:04] | wagnerrp: | Dagmar: it would automatically increase the length as the file size grew? |
| [02:06:22] | hondo: | Does anyone know if the mythfilldatabase process should always be running? Mine is and it's causing trouble. |
| [02:06:42] | wagnerrp: | nope, only a couple minutes a day |
| [02:06:51] | wagnerrp: | it might take 15–20 minutes for a full update |
| [02:06:59] | wagnerrp: | but it shouldnt run anything like all dat |
| [02:07:00] | wagnerrp: | day |
| [02:08:26] | hondo: | Yup, that's my trouble then. If I kill the process me machine runs beautifully. |
| [02:08:53] | hondo: | I wonder what in the world causes it to run forever? |
| [02:09:36] | hondo: | *causes the process to run forever. |
| [02:09:44] | nighthawk: | anyone here use jamu.py? |
| [02:11:21] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: thanks for testing. patch is now in |
| [02:11:44] | josh_: | Anyone have any suggestions for a SFF PC capable of 1080 HD playback? |
| [02:12:03] | josh_: | I want to build something for the bedroom tv |
| [02:12:06] | wagnerrp: | josh_: what source? |
| [02:12:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: awesome. ;-) |
| [02:12:32] | DougSouth: | Um, where is the configuration for what key does what on what screen? (Can't find it in the doco at the moment) |
| [02:12:51] | josh_: | wagnerrp, Source? Mostly OTA mpeg2's but I *might* coax it into some h.264 |
| [02:12:58] | hondo: | Anyone going to be in Atlanta, GA October 10th? We're having a MythTV InstallFest and Conference. |
| [02:13:25] | wagnerrp: | DougSouth: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Keybindings |
| [02:13:25] | sphery: | cool |
| [02:13:34] | sphery: | but about 8 1/2hrs too far from home |
| [02:13:37] | DougSouth: | thanx, just found that :) |
| [02:13:56] | josh_: | hondo, yeah, it's a bit of a ways away from Houston, too. |
| [02:14:03] | wagnerrp: | josh_: need to know exactly what you intend to watch, that decides how much power you need |
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| [02:14:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | hondo: cool for me too, but closer to 20 hours for me... :-( |
| [02:14:22] | wagnerrp: | any lowly mainstream desktop processor can manage HD mpeg2 |
| [02:14:24] | DougSouth: | I thought those keybindings were configurable? |
| [02:14:36] | wagnerrp: | h.264 takes a bit more, depending on the bitrate |
| [02:14:36] | sphery: | DougSouth: also, that's not /perfectly/ up to date, but you can always find your exact configuration in MythControls (Utilites/Setup|Key <somthing or another>) |
| [02:14:43] | josh_: | wagnerrp, had a hard time with a P4 2.8 a long time ago. |
| [02:14:43] | sphery: | Key Settings maybe? |
| [02:14:57] | hondo: | Looks like I'm going to have to set up a video feed of the presentations. |
| [02:14:58] | ** DougSouth is having a look now ** | |
| [02:15:06] | wagnerrp: | i mean modern processor |
| [02:15:16] | hondo: | What's that Mythphone thing for again? |
| [02:15:25] | wagnerrp: | a P4 2.8 should be at about the limit of what you need |
| [02:15:33] | DougSouth: | Not seeing Key <something> :( |
| [02:15:39] | sphery: | hondo: it's dead--got removed from trunk so it won't be in 0.22 |
| [02:15:48] | josh_: | wagnerrp, this tv supports 1080i, although downscaled 720 wont look too badly on it. |
| [02:15:50] | DougSouth: | I've seen it a long time ago, but maybe it's not where it used to be after the upgrade |
| [02:16:04] | sphery: | DougSouth: in 0.21-fixes MythControls is a separate plugin so you might need to install it |
| [02:16:08] | hondo: | sphery, good it sucked |
| [02:16:12] | josh_: | wagnerrp, just wondering if those ITX boards would do h.264 |
| [02:16:29] | josh_: | My living room frontend is running a Q6600 with 4 GB ram. |
| [02:16:40] | Dassu: | Hmmm according to the mythtv wiki. Mythstream is for 0.21 but according to the mythstream homepage it works with 0.20 so what's the sentence ? |
| [02:16:41] | wagnerrp: | you can get one of the Zotac mini-itx boards |
| [02:17:00] | wagnerrp: | they have a socket 775 system that takes any intel chip |
| [02:17:16] | wagnerrp: | or one of the ION boards, which would restrict you to content you can decode using VDPAU |
| [02:17:20] | DougSouth: | Ah, figures :) |
| [02:17:35] | sphery: | Dassu: there was a version for 0.20, but the current version works with 0.21 |
| [02:17:57] | DougSouth: | According to CC it's enabled :( |
| [02:18:06] | wagnerrp: | i think there are some other ION boards that should be available in the near future |
| [02:18:12] | Dassu: | sphery: Ok, cool. Thanks for the quick answer |
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| [02:18:33] | wagnerrp: | but usually mini-itx is going to get you stuck with an Atom or Via system |
| [02:18:54] | josh_: | My TV is mounted on the ceiling also, so looks like I'm gonna have to put the box on my headboard with a ~15 foot HDMI |
| [02:18:55] | sphery: | DougSouth: on mine (0.21-fixes), it's Utilities/Setup|Edit Keys |
| [02:18:57] | hondo: | Anyone have a backend running? Can run a "ps -A | grep -i mythfilldatabas" for on it for me? |
| [02:19:20] | wagnerrp: | josh_: you should be able to get a small enough box to mount behind the TV |
| [02:19:25] | sphery: | DougSouth: but if you have a different menu theme enabled (I use default), it could be elsewhere (or might not even be on your menus) |
| [02:19:27] | wagnerrp: | if nothing else, you can get something like a minimac |
| [02:19:39] | DougSouth: | sphery: think I'm using default |
| [02:19:41] | josh_: | hondo, isnt returning anything for me. |
| [02:19:54] | sphery: | DougSouth: note that's menu theme (default, classic or DVR) not Theme (which would be like Blue or Blootube or neon-wide or ...) |
| [02:19:57] | josh_: | hondo, but mythfilldatabase isn't a TSR program. |
| [02:20:06] | hondo: | josh_, thanx |
| [02:20:07] | sphery: | which you seem to know since you knew you were using default :) |
| [02:20:22] | hondo: | josh_, TSR ? |
| [02:20:29] | sphery: | haven't heard that one for years |
| [02:20:48] | josh_: | hondo, Terminate and Stay Resident. Probably incorrect terminology |
| [02:20:58] | sphery: | that's basically the DOS word for daemon |
| [02:21:03] | josh_: | hondo, but mythfilldatabase is scheduled, and goes away when it is finished. |
| [02:21:18] | sphery: | unix is much more politically-incorrect than DOS :) |
| [02:21:35] | josh_: | it runs in the background, but it's not what I would consider a background process. |
| [02:22:10] | hondo: | josh_, yea that's what I'm trying to figure out. Mine does not go away unless I kill it. |
| [02:22:37] | josh_: | hondo, if you run it manually, does it die correctly? |
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| [02:23:09] | sphery: | hondo: what about the mythfilldatabase log output? |
| [02:23:21] | hondo: | josh nope — at least not the last most recent time I tried it. |
| [02:23:29] | J-e-f-f-A: | humm... seems the channel scanner still doesn't work for ATSC... at leas for my HD3000... |
| [02:23:59] | hondo: | sphery, hmmm — I should look at that |
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| [02:24:06] | josh_: | hondo, have a look at the mythflldatabase log then, as sphery pointed out. |
| [02:24:20] | sphery: | hondo: specify a file or directory name for "mythfilldatabase Log Path" in frontend settings under main general settings if the backend is running it for you |
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| [02:24:33] | sphery: | hondo: if you're running it manually, just look at the output in the terminal |
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| [02:29:28] | DougSouth: | hmm, CC seems to have hung setting up mythweb authentication :( |
| [02:31:14] | DougSouth: | would it be safe to kill it? |
| [02:31:45] | Dagmar: | If anyone knew what "CC" was supposed to mean |
| [02:32:16] | DougSouth: | ah, sorry, Control Centre |
| [02:32:28] | Dagmar: | Ask whoever wrote that then |
| [02:32:59] | DougSouth: | installing some plugins and it's just sitting there on MythWeb authentication (but then I've said that already...) |
| [02:33:23] | Dagmar: | This Control Centre isn't any part of MythTV that I'm aware of |
| [02:33:50] | DougSouth: | that's funny, because I'm running via setup in MythTV |
| [02:34:17] | DougSouth: | python /usr/share/mythbuntu-control-centre/bin/mythbuntu-control-centre |
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| [02:34:25] | Dagmar: | So what |
| [02:34:29] | wagnerrp: | probably something special with mythbuntu |
| [02:34:33] | Dagmar: | Ask in #Mythbuntu then |
| [02:34:38] | Dagmar: | They wrote it, it's broken, they fix it. |
| [02:34:40] | wagnerrp: | mythbuntu ads a lot of extra crap not in vanilla mythtv |
| [02:34:48] | DougSouth: | ah |
| [02:34:55] | DougSouth: | thanks |
| [02:34:58] | wagnerrp: | stuff that is intended to make installation and administration easier |
| [02:35:53] | sphery: | #ubuntu-mythtv fwiw |
| [02:39:16] | caseyd: | any suggestions of what I could do when I have blue video & normal audio – http://mythbuntu.pastebin.com/f514913f5 ? |
| [02:39:26] | DougSouth: | sphery: seems to redirect :) |
| [02:39:30] | DougSouth: | killed it anyway |
| [02:39:41] | DougSouth: | sphery: Found edit keys, thanks |
| [02:39:48] | wagnerrp: | cafuego: how do you connect your output device? |
| [02:39:53] | hondo: | sphery, /var/log/mythtv/mythfilldatabase looks ok. No errors. Is mythfilldatabase a cron job? |
| [02:40:09] | sphery: | heh, htat's cool... didn't know it redirects |
| [02:40:17] | sphery: | glad you found edit keys |
| [02:40:19] | wagnerrp: | hondo: it can be... |
| [02:40:33] | wagnerrp: | but in the US with schedulesdirect, mythbackend runs mythfilldatabase automatically |
| [02:40:51] | sphery: | way faster than me |
| [02:41:08] | sphery: | hondo: mythfilldatabase is still running? |
| [02:42:02] | sphery: | Captain_Murdoch: you've been on quite the roll for the past few days... |
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| [02:42:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | trying to take advantage of some time I have. :) |
| [02:43:30] | sphery: | it's working quite well... thanks in no small part to you, we're actually < 500 tickets |
| [02:43:37] | Captain_Murdoch: | stopping looking at ticket now thought to take a quick stab at adding the feature that Yeechang Lee requested a week ago. |
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| [02:43:59] | sphery: | which one is that... I half remember it |
| [02:44:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | basically I just went though one marked as 'ijr' and picked out a bunch. |
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| [02:44:48] | Captain_Murdoch: | ability to tell the frontend to play a video file remotely (ie, command line or network control). I'm looking at adding a "play file" command to the network control interface. |
| [02:44:58] | sphery: | ahhh |
| [02:44:59] | sphery: | cool |
| [02:45:15] | Captain_Murdoch: | I threw together a quick hack, but it had a couple issues, so I thought I'd take another fresh look. |
| [02:45:15] | sphery: | will be a nice addition now that MV has gotten a lot of TLC and will probably be a lot more popular |
| [02:46:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | well, MV won't need it since it can do it directly via a media handler, but this would allow you to do things like starting a video via MythWeb or something like that. |
| [02:47:04] | sphery: | yeah, but starting a video that's managed by MythVideo, right? |
| [02:47:42] | sphery: | I'm just thinking more people may be putting more stuff (especially "exported" recordings to archive) in MythVideo in 0.22 |
| [02:47:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | MV just uses the media handler code to bring up the internal player. this would allow you to trigger that via the command line as well. |
| [02:48:01] | Captain_Murdoch: | MV already does this via the media handler. |
| [02:48:13] | Captain_Murdoch: | so the patch/feature is hooking into the media handler from the command line. |
| [02:48:48] | sphery: | adding the network control support for MV, right? |
| [02:48:53] | Captain_Murdoch: | no. |
| [02:48:55] | sphery: | oh |
| [02:49:26] | Captain_Murdoch: | just giving the ability to say "play /some/directory/some/file.mpg" from networkcontrol and having mythfrontend switch to the internal player and start playing that file. |
| [02:49:45] | Captain_Murdoch: | err, "play file /some/directory/some/file.mpg" |
| [02:49:55] | sphery: | ok |
| [02:50:05] | sphery: | so you're saying file.mpg is not in a mythvideo directory? |
| [02:50:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | maybe, maybe not. |
| [02:50:15] | sphery: | ok... I see now |
| [02:50:24] | sphery: | (and should really not be distracting you from the work :) |
| [02:50:25] | Captain_Murdoch: | doesn't matter to the media handler. |
| [02:51:32] | Captain_Murdoch: | media handler takes a filename (and should take a URL as well since it just ends up running NVP) |
| [02:51:36] | sphery: | today I decided I couldn't finish the automatic-orphaned-file-import let alone the interactive-orphaned-metadata-detection that I want to put into mythbackend in time, so I started working on a new feature for the restore script (which users could have always updated themselves if I didn't get it done) |
| [02:52:10] | Captain_Murdoch: | someone needs to patch RingBuffer to support a http stream, so you could play http://some.hostname.com/some/dir/some/file.mpg |
| [02:52:16] | sphery: | but I think it would be useful (allowing them to "fix up" their channels after wiping them and doing a full scan--including fixing recordingds, etc) |
| [02:52:32] | sphery: | that's cool |
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| [03:00:43] | hpladds_: | sphery, I'm beginning to think that my troubles are actually a router issue. |
| [03:01:10] | wagnerrp: | what would those troubles be? |
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| [03:01:45] | hpladds_: | wagnerrp, I was previously hondo |
| [03:02:14] | hpladds_: | I have trouble with mythfillbase always running. |
| [03:02:58] | hpladds_: | this in turn causes me machine to lock-up |
| [03:03:50] | hpladds_: | If I kill manually mythfilldatabase, everything runs great. |
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| [03:40:25] | Shadow__X: | anyone here with a mac that uses samba :D |
| [03:40:54] | wagnerrp: | i dont believe Macs use samba |
| [03:41:01] | wagnerrp: | dont they have their own CIFS implementation? |
| [03:41:21] | Shadow__X: | how do you connect to a samba share then |
| [03:41:24] | Shadow__X: | through cifs? |
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| [03:41:59] | wagnerrp: | CIFS is the general name for windows file sharing |
| [03:42:52] | Shadow__X: | i can connect no issue i am having a permission issue and havnt been able to find a resolution |
| [03:42:52] | sphery: | windows? but it says "Common Internet File System" so it should work on any Internet-connected system, right? |
| [03:43:11] | wagnerrp: | sphery: sure, if you want to expose those ports to the world at large |
| [03:43:20] | sphery: | heh |
| [03:43:30] | wagnerrp: | i know many-a-cable-internet-user used to do that |
| [03:43:40] | Shadow__X: | the permissions work fine under windows or linux but osx doest adhere to them |
| [03:44:17] | wagnerrp: | i have a cousin that tinkered with P2P downloading, because he would just scrape other peoples' windows shares |
| [03:44:20] | scan is now known as scan_away | |
| [03:44:25] | wagnerrp: | err... never tinkered |
| [03:45:35] | sphery: | heh, did you know there's a pronunciation for CIFS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_Message_Block#History |
| [03:45:39] | sphery: | and it's kifs |
| [03:45:47] | sphery: | I think I'll continue to spell it out |
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| [03:46:20] | wagnerrp: | i always thought it was 's-ifs' |
| [03:46:28] | Shadow__X: | yeah as did i |
| [03:46:38] | wagnerrp: | i prefer sifs to kifs |
| [03:46:44] | wagnerrp: | i will continue using sifs |
| [03:46:59] | sphery: | kifs sounds like a little alien who hates his boss |
| [03:47:12] | wagnerrp: | sifs just has a softer sound |
| [03:47:17] | Shadow__X: | hmm |
| [03:47:20] | wagnerrp: | kifs is too hard |
| [03:47:26] | Shadow__X: | so no mac people here then huh |
| [03:47:28] | Shadow__X: | :) |
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| [03:47:36] | sphery: | well, CIFS is hard to configure compared to NFS |
| [03:47:46] | sphery: | (on *nix, that is) |
| [03:47:51] | wagnerrp: | (hard C... soft C....) |
| [03:47:54] | wagnerrp: | bah |
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| [03:48:10] | Shadow__X: | it connects fine its just i have permission problems that only arise on osx |
| [03:48:30] | Shadow__X: | i have no issue on windows or linux access and editing files off of my samba share |
| [03:48:41] | Shadow__X: | osx doesnt want to be nice to me |
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| [04:24:50] | clever: | sphery: might you know the answer to my question? |
| [04:25:40] | sphery: | clever: I think you'd need to do ProgramInfo::GetProgramFromRecorded() to get a ProgramInfo, then ProgramInfo::GetPlaybackURL()] |
| [04:25:53] | clever: | ah:) |
| [04:27:50] | clever: | looks good |
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| [05:07:49] | clever: | sphery: looks like it should work, but i think i'm having problems getting the code to even run |
| [05:08:07] | clever: | for some reason, the newly compiled libmythtv doesnt seem to be used |
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| [05:09:48] | clever: | or i just need to wait for a job to get queued normaly |
| [05:10:14] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, ping? |
| [05:10:53] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Does any part of #4985 overlap anything you've already added? |
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| [05:13:37] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, #5546/#4985/#5569 may all be worth checking out, they're pretty stale, and could probably be congealed into one patch for anything not added lately |
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| [05:29:40] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro... checking |
| [05:30:45] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, I just updated http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5569 |
| [05:30:58] | iamlindoro: | reformatted and put in current cotnext... it seems fine and should be a quick check |
| [05:31:01] | iamlindoro: | er context |
| [05:31:06] | wagnerrp: | actually, some of those probably overlap |
| [05:31:24] | wagnerrp: | before i added stuff, i checked old tickets to see if anything was already done |
| [05:31:25] | iamlindoro: | yeah, just looking to close easy tickets, #5569 beaing the easiest |
| [05:31:43] | wagnerrp: | but after 15 or so pages of nothing but compile logs, i gave up and started writing functions |
| [05:31:58] | iamlindoro: | bah, being |
| [05:34:00] | wagnerrp: | 5569 doesnt seem to overlap with any existing function |
| [05:34:20] | wagnerrp: | of course pruneMetadata() could be updated to use the function added in 5569 |
| [05:34:39] | iamlindoro: | sure |
| [05:35:01] | iamlindoro: | will just start by committing that and if you feel like looking at the other two and identifying unimplemented stuff I'll commit that |
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| [05:36:26] | wagnerrp: | 5546 could use a canned query in MythDB.py for listing storage groups |
| [05:37:02] | wagnerrp: | but the 'findrecordingdir' and 'findrecordingfile' are performed better using QUERY_CHECKFILE from the backend protocol to have myth search for the absolute path |
| [05:39:53] | wagnerrp: | 4985... i just dont understand |
| [05:40:06] | wagnerrp: | as you have this big long diff that seems to change absolutely nothing |
| [05:40:24] | wagnerrp: | as if someone already commited it and just never closed the patch |
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| [05:41:19] | Shadow__X: | hey iamlindoro could i ask a question about osx and samba |
| [05:41:26] | wagnerrp: | ah, looks like it does some stuff further down |
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| [05:41:55] | iamlindoro: | Shadow__X, I'm just trying to get a few more things done before heading to bed, tonight is a bad time |
| [05:42:06] | Shadow__X: | ah ok well thanks anyway |
| [05:42:11] | Shadow__X: | carry on with the good work |
| [05:44:01] | wagnerrp: | so yeah... 5569 can be added now |
| [05:44:26] | wagnerrp: | 5546 has something that could be useful, ill put in a different patch |
| [05:45:10] | wagnerrp: | 4985 have some new classes for handling guide data and channels, as well as a couple new functions i could add |
| [05:45:13] | iamlindoro: | yeah, closed/applied 5569 a second ago |
| [05:45:18] | wagnerrp: | but as it stands, theres a lot of overlapping code |
| [05:45:22] | wagnerrp: | and the patch is a complete mess |
| [05:45:50] | iamlindoro: | *if* you have any interest (and by no means am I pushing you to do it) in cleaning up those tickets, We can probably get them in this weekend |
| [05:46:19] | wagnerrp: | i actually have a rewrite of the logging interface put together |
| [05:46:43] | wagnerrp: | so that it does logging to the console and database, based off the same log levels as other mythtv stuff |
| [05:47:02] | wagnerrp: | i was going to post it last night, but i got caught up with some unicode issues |
| [05:47:08] | wagnerrp: | and havent figured out how to solve them |
| [05:47:26] | iamlindoro: | well, no worries if you don't get to this stuff, it can always wait |
| [05:47:49] | wagnerrp: | i can dump the rest of this stuff in and make a patch |
| [05:47:55] | wagnerrp: | just leave the unicode bug for later |
| [05:48:03] | iamlindoro: | trying to burn through some of Anduin's tickets so that he can focus on Metadata grabbing changes/fixing the video scan bug |
| [05:49:08] | iamlindoro: | Got him down to 8 tickets, two could probably be closed as stale, two python, three tracking, and one real bug |
| [05:49:22] | wombo: | What are the chances of getting my 2 Mythweb patches in? 6479 and 6452 |
| [05:49:30] | iamlindoro: | figure if we can get the python stuff into one of your tickets, I can close the other two |
| [05:50:12] | iamlindoro: | wombo, kormoc or xris would need to decide on those |
| [05:50:18] | iamlindoro: | !seen kormoc |
| [05:50:18] | MythLogBot: | kormoc was last seen 2 days 5 hours 8 minutes 25 seconds ago |
| [05:50:22] | iamlindoro: | wow, long time |
| [05:50:39] | wombo: | ahh ok |
| [05:50:47] | wombo: | there pretty simple |
| [05:51:11] | wombo: | !seen xris |
| [05:51:11] | MythLogBot: | xris is here and has been idle for 9 hours 53 minutes 42 seconds |
| [05:54:12] | wagnerrp: | ill try to have something up tonight, maybe an hour or so |
| [05:54:57] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, Cool, I'm going to hit the sack but will be back in the afternoon/evening tomorrow so if any new functionality from those tickets can be unified, I'll dump the old tickets |
| [05:55:24] | wagnerrp: | as far as i can tell, 4985 just had two lines at the beginning of the file, and that confused a broken implementation of diff |
| [05:55:34] | wagnerrp: | making deletes and additions throughout the file |
| [05:56:03] | iamlindoro: | or he put in random whitespace |
| [05:56:32] | wagnerrp: | maybe changed tabs to spaces, or visa-versa.... |
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| [06:25:03] | xris: | iamlindoro: yeah, kormoc's been AWOL for awhile now. not on IM or anything. |
| [06:25:13] | wagnerrp: | hes been on steam |
| [06:25:33] | xris: | figured he got sick or something. or was moving. |
| [06:26:08] | xris: | but I won't be doing any code work this weekend. have a wedding to attend. |
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| [06:28:07] | juski: | http://doc.trolltech.com/4.5/qtime.html |
| [06:28:18] | juski: | bugger, wrong window |
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| [09:05:28] | ** Dassu is not happy. Not happy at all. How come can I compile mythtube with a 0.21-fixes if doesn't have mythuitextedit.h ** | |
| [09:06:09] | Dassu: | Interesting problem definitely :D |
| [09:06:25] | Dassu: | Seems like kinda how ... would I explain it ..hmm fatal ? |
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| [09:26:49] | juski: | Dassu: it was only ever for trunk |
| [09:27:16] | Dassu: | ;__; |
| [09:27:35] | Dassu: | I sometimes use YouTube For documents |
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| [09:28:30] | beatbreaker: | hi, i'm having some problems with my live TV, it was working for about 2 months now it's stuffed, it keeps telling me that i've set the wrong IP address |
| [09:36:43] | juski: | oh so it's unable to connect to the backend. well you should check the settings in mythfrontend & you should also verify you can connect to the mysql server |
| [09:37:03] | juski: | checking that mythbackend is actually running is also a good idea |
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| [09:39:14] | beatbreaker: | ok hold on |
| [09:40:14] | beatbreaker: | ah ok that was a little stupid, mythbackend wasn't started... though i never shut it off |
| [09:40:47] | juski: | so it stopped for whatever reason. check its log |
| [09:41:01] | juski: | /var/log/mythtv is the usual directory on many distros |
| [09:44:00] | coolthreads: | Trying to get Myth to record multiple channels simultaneously from one DVB-S card. if its possible |
| [09:45:12] | juski: | only if those channels are on the same transponder |
| [09:46:06] | juski: | and only if the tuner can pass the whole transponder (i.e. the complete transponder transport stream) |
| [09:46:50] | juski: | oh and if you use CI & a CAM you'll be limited to the # of streams the CAM can cope with simultaneously |
| [09:52:33] | juski: | you're welcome |
| [09:52:48] | coolthreads: | I only started learning about tuning into satellites 2 weeks ago, I only gained enough knowledge so far to get channels. |
| [09:53:04] | coolthreads: | Oh thanks by the way for help |
| [09:54:17] | juski: | well, each channel on digital satellite is part of a transponder. A transponder takes the place of what used to be a whole analogue channel & can contain lots of streams – each stream can be video, audio, data or a combination of video, audio & data |
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| [09:55:30] | juski: | so, each transponder can carry more than one TV channel. Mythtv makes use of this to carry out recording more than one channel with a single tuner :) |
| [09:56:06] | juski: | by default in mythtv-setup the maximum number of recordings per digital tuner card is set to 2. A single tuner will show up as 2 'encoders' in mythtv status pages |
| [09:57:03] | juski: | there's no way for you, the user – to know which channels are on the same transponder when you schedule a recording, so if you want to test that you need to know which channels are on which transponder ;-) |
| [09:57:22] | juski: | I mean mythtv doesn't tell you which channels are on which transponder |
| [09:58:39] | coolthreads: | I appreciate your knowledge. |
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| [09:59:48] | Dassu: | Debian multimedia build-dep has it pretty fucked up |
| [09:59:57] | juski: | language |
| [10:00:41] | Dassu: | It suggested packages to be installed before compile, however they replace packages like libgl1-mesa-glx which are required for mythfrontend to run fine |
| [10:00:43] | juski: | coolthreads: a simple mysql query would tell you which channels you can record simultaneously |
| [10:01:08] | Dassu: | Maybe there is a way to install libqt3-mt-dev without uninstalling that I dunno... |
| [10:01:13] | Dassu: | but it is a hassle |
| [10:01:15] | beatbreaker: | wow i'm in some trouble, i checked my mythbackend.log and it says this constantly http://pastebin.com/d4420b77b |
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| [10:02:21] | juski: | beatbreaker: is mysql even running? |
| [10:02:36] | juski: | is / full? is the partition mysql stores its data ok? |
| [10:03:23] | coolthreads: | Thanks will read up, trial and error and see what stands out. Thanks juski |
| [10:03:57] | beatbreaker: | my / is fine |
| [10:04:47] | beatbreaker: | this is a grep http://pastebin.com/d1b8ba064 |
| [10:08:16] | beatbreaker: | what's causing that? |
| [10:08:47] | beatbreaker: | live TV runs fine, it seems to be getting guide data fine too |
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| [10:17:26] | coolthreads: | juski: Yup, I got 2 channels recording simultaneously and watching another livetv channel. nice |
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| [10:29:43] | _ben: | Lo all, I'm just trying out 0.22 and as far as I can see there's no delete option in the 'recordings' screen ? |
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| [10:29:55] | cityLights: | hi |
| [10:30:24] | cityLights: | how to tell mythtv, not to disable pulseaudio when mythbackend is active? |
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| [10:31:28] | wombo: | _ben press the 'D' button |
| [10:31:48] | _ben: | wombo: Yeah, I guess I'll have to map it to my remote |
| [10:32:50] | juski: | somebody didn't try the MENU button I guess, nor the INFO button |
| [10:33:34] | _ben: | I was just used to having 'delete' under the menu ;) |
| [10:35:08] | beatbreaker: | wow i'm in some trouble, i checked my mythbackend.log and it says this constantly http://pastebin.com/d4420b77b |
| [10:35:16] | juski: | it's still there AFAIK |
| [10:38:28] | laga: | delete in PBB is under info |
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| [10:39:15] | juski: | like it was in 0.21 |
| [10:40:13] | juski: | beatbreaker: stop mythbackend. run mysqlcheck on mythconverg. see if you can log into the mysql server using 'mysql -u mythtv -pTHEPASSWORD mythconverg' |
| [10:40:39] | _ben: | juski: nah, it was under the menu in 0.21 |
| [10:40:48] | _ben: | ta laga |
| [10:41:03] | laga: | juski: i think he's right |
| [10:41:10] | laga: | and i find the new location helluva confusing |
| [10:41:57] | _ben: | I'm sure there's a logic to it – I just need to re-do my lirc stuff |
| [10:42:58] | janneg: | laga: maybe it was removed from the' menu' but it was alaways in 'info' |
| [10:43:09] | juski: | last time I looked it was on the INFO menu |
| [10:43:56] | juski: | my single menu button hack wasn't committed AFAIK.. it'd be daft to do that without also despatching the other dual menu buttons – and that isn't happening without a big consensus |
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| [10:45:14] | beatbreaker: | juski, i can log in by mysql -u mythtv -p (password) |
| [10:45:17] | beatbreaker: | exit |
| [10:46:12] | juski: | beatbreaker: lemme guess. the machine's hostname has changed |
| [10:46:36] | beatbreaker: | juski, i don't think so |
| [10:46:47] | beatbreaker: | nope |
| [10:47:50] | beatbreaker: | how do i run the mysqlcheck command properley? i think i'm noobing it up |
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| [10:58:38] | beatbreaker: | my hostname has definatley not changed, I just don't know how to run the command "mysqlcheck" mysqlcheck: Got error: 1044: Access denied for user ''@'localhost' to database 'mythconverg' when selecting the database |
| [11:00:10] | clever: | give it the name/pw the same way as the mysql command |
| [11:01:41] | beatbreaker: | You forgot to give the arguments! |
| [11:02:27] | beatbreaker: | mysqlcheck -u mythtv -p ****** mythconverg |
| [11:03:12] | clever: | there is no space between -p and the password |
| [11:04:41] | beatbreaker: | everything seems "ok" http://pastebin.com/d4a71812c |
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| [11:07:02] | clever: | AHHH YES! |
| [11:07:10] | clever: | i get that error every now and then |
| [11:07:33] | clever: | mythbackend looses the connection for a split second, asks stdin for the addr, and then goes retarded and defaults to '' |
| [11:07:42] | clever: | then it cant connect at all, and asks |
| [11:07:44] | clever: | then it cant connect at all, and asks |
| [11:07:53] | beatbreaker: | and asks |
| [11:07:54] | beatbreaker: | and asks |
| [11:07:55] | beatbreaker: | and asks |
| [11:07:56] | clever: | just restart the process and pray it gets fixed |
| [11:08:29] | beatbreaker: | ok, i might as well reboot then and see if mythbackend starts normally as it has been for a few months now |
| [11:08:36] | beatbreaker: | thanks i'll be back in about 5 |
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| [11:09:12] | clever: | juski: it helps when you have crappy hardware and see these things often :P |
| [11:10:51] | laga: | go file a bug? ;) |
| [11:11:58] | clever: | i mentioned it in this channel countless times |
| [11:12:38] | laga: | yeah |
| [11:12:42] | laga: | like that's going to help |
| [11:12:54] | laga: | "i bitched to /dev/urandom, why doesn't this get fixed" :) |
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| [11:19:42] | beatbreak: | fixed, thanks very much, just got a little shaken because the thing has been solid as a rock since i got it, no need to play with it |
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| [11:21:37] | _ben: | Heh, it seems my info menu is bound to 'Star' button. It's configured as Star in my lirc config but if i change it to * it breaks lirc horribly |
| [11:21:45] | _ben: | wonder if thats like some wildcarding issue |
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| [11:24:06] | clever: | _ben: the remote config file will give a 'name' to every 'button' on the remote |
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| [11:28:50] | XLV: | samsung's cpva monitors review http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/pri . . . 0-f2380.html |
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| [12:45:39] | monz187: | hi, i cant seem to get audio working, its working fine in gnome, im using pulseaudio... any tips on that? |
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| [12:51:10] | monz187: | anyone have pulseaudio working with fedora11 and mythtv? |
| [12:52:45] | GreyFoxx: | myth explicitly disables pulseaudio and in come cases wont even start with it |
| [12:56:01] | monz187: | GreyFoxx: is that still the case with the latest mythtv, as i saw that a path for pulseaudio was implemented? |
| [12:58:24] | GreyFoxx: | myth just forces pulse to be disabled in some way so your actually using alsa for output |
| [12:59:25] | monz187: | GreyFoxx: in that case, i need to set the audio device in the backend to /dev/snd/controlC0?? |
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| [13:00:05] | GreyFoxx: | The backend? |
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| [13:00:31] | monz187: | GreyFoxx: sorry mythtv-setup |
| [13:00:34] | GreyFoxx: | Are you referring to recording or playback ? |
| [13:00:49] | GreyFoxx: | I was talking about playback |
| [13:02:02] | GreyFoxx: | If you mean rcording then you are stuck with OSS (on old framegrabber types) |
| [13:02:20] | monz187: | GreyFoxx: Playback, live TV |
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| [13:03:19] | GreyFoxx: | If you want also you need something like ALSA:default . You generally don't need to actually point directly to the dev node |
| [13:06:35] | monz187: | GreyFoxx: Tried that, no sound... sound works perfectly in gnome.. mplayer etc... |
| [13:07:24] | GreyFoxx: | I think the general recommendation is just to disable pulse altogether as some systems force it on you. But to be honest I've never had to personally deal with it. just watched othersi n here struggle with it |
| [13:08:03] | monz187: | GreyFoxx: i get an error ALSA, warning: mmpa not available... any clues? |
| [13:08:42] | GreyFoxx: | sorry no. You will need to wait for someone more familiar with getting around pulse on fedora to come along :/ |
| [13:09:08] | monz187: | :( |
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| [13:18:19] | linxeh: | hmm, what distribution to try next :) |
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| [13:57:40] | juski: | GreyFoxx: I thought myth 0.21 would just carry on regardless wrt pulseaudio |
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| [14:02:43] | gbee_: | heh, what sort of desktop media player which supports playlists doesn't allow you to open a directory and all files below it? Talking about Totem here, I might have to find a decent media player until I get mythmusic installed on my netbook |
| [14:03:10] | juski: | not amarok, that's for sure |
| [14:04:13] | gbee_: | ugh, amarok 2 is hideous (apologies if anyone here was involved in that train wreck) |
| [14:04:53] | juski: | so many people criticise mythmusic, but IMHO it's pretty neat. Sure it has some shortcomings but it's mostly pretty good |
| [14:04:58] | clever: | gbee_: find /media/mainlv/music/ -type f > playlist;mplayer -shuffle -playlist playlist |
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| [14:50:30] | Dassu: | Oke, G450 seems to have this fabalous feature: Source image dimensions maximum 1024x1024 |
| [14:50:52] | Dassu: | Which means that I can't play 720p at full resolution with xv |
| [14:51:33] | Dassu: | Luckily my vision isn't too gr8 so I don't really see any difference if I just limit horizonal resolution to 1024 |
| [14:51:53] | Dassu: | Still kinda puts a guy down :/ |
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| [15:04:29] | brad2: | morning guys |
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| [15:07:02] | brad2: | i'm having kind of an odd problem. I tried to compile trunk on a different machine, and it seems to compile/install fine but when trying to run mythtv i get the following error: mythtv: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/local/lib/libmythswscale-0.22.so.0: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied |
| [15:07:34] | brad2: | i checked and that file does exist, and i tried running myth as root, in case i mucked up permissions.. but still no love |
| [15:08:26] | janneg: | brad2: run ldconfig as root |
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| [15:11:27] | brad2: | tried that, and still no dice |
| [15:11:43] | brad2: | is there some sort of config file for ld? maybe i'm not pointing at the right dir? |
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| [15:15:48] | brad2: | oh wait i figured it out i think |
| [15:15:52] | brad2: | it's this selinux thing |
| [15:17:31] | nighthawk: | iamlindoro, I've been trying to get that jamu.py working, it fails with a "NoneType" object error, putting in some debug output it looks like it is failing on episodeimagedir in the _getMythtvDirectories()... is this latest one known to work against trunk, or is it the more likely I've done something worng? |
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| [16:02:54] | wagnerrp: | nighthawk: he doesnt know his way around python to answer your questions, and he probably only gave some device before because he has used JAMU a couple times |
| [16:03:13] | wagnerrp: | beyond that, he hasnt been around for several hours, and wont be around for several more hours |
| [16:03:24] | wagnerrp: | better to direct your questions to the channel as a whole |
| [16:03:39] | nighthawk: | oh, I was getting him mixed up with kormoc, I saw his name on one of the svn pages or some similar |
| [16:03:53] | nighthawk: | you don't happen to know anything on the subject? |
| [16:04:16] | nighthawk: | I'm dumping a bunch of writeouts in the script to try to track down what is missing |
| [16:04:28] | wagnerrp: | kormoc doesnt know python either, aside from someone telling him he must rewrite mythweb (php and perl) in python |
| [16:04:28] | nighthawk: | crash course in python :-) |
| [16:04:40] | nighthawk: | ah, who owns this thing then? |
| [16:05:00] | wagnerrp: | and he hasnt been around in a couple days anyway |
| [16:06:51] | wagnerrp: | im on my way out the door |
| [16:07:05] | wagnerrp: | if you still havent found the solution in a couple hours, ill take a look at it |
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| [16:07:54] | nighthawk: | ok, I'll see how far I get :) |
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| [16:12:19] | wagnerrp: | PM me the exception python is giving you, so i know what to look for when i get back |
| [16:13:53] | nighthawk: | I'll spend another hour troubleshooting and then PM any relevant details and error msgs |
| [16:15:32] | nighthawk: | basically it is "NoneType" object errors, which I think is equivelant to a java null object exception? |
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| [16:15:52] | nighthawk: | these crazy dynamic type langs :P |
| [16:18:58] | wagnerrp: | none is what some functions return when there is nothing to return |
| [16:19:13] | nighthawk: | TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable |
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| [16:19:22] | wagnerrp: | allows them to return something that can be checked for separately from '0' or 'False' |
| [16:19:25] | nighthawk: | that is basically a null, right? |
| [16:19:32] | nighthawk: | oh |
| [16:20:06] | wagnerrp: | it basically means, 'i have no data, but i still want to exist as a variable so i dont cause things to break harder trying to access me' |
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| [16:21:07] | nighthawk: | it is dying on "fanartdir" |
| [16:21:29] | nighthawk: | it isn't set in the config dict |
| [16:21:53] | wagnerrp: | what is the exact exception? pastbin or PM it |
| [16:23:06] | nighthawk: | http://pastebin.com/d29c15503 |
| [16:23:19] | nighthawk: | the line numbers are a little off since I've added some stderr.write lines |
| [16:23:52] | nighthawk: | I don't recall seeing a fanart setting in mythvideo setup, but Im going to recheck now to make sure I didn't leave it empty |
| [16:26:13] | wagnerrp: | episode images are usually stored in the coverfile directory and/or storage group |
| [16:26:31] | wagnerrp: | episodeimagedir looks more to be something youre supposed to put in jamu.conf |
| [16:27:19] | nighthawk: | I've had it in there previously, I think it is trying to read these from the db as well |
| [16:27:46] | nighthawk: | the wiki page doesn't mention it as needed |
| [16:28:13] | nighthawk: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Jamu#User_Configuration_File |
| [16:28:27] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the example conf says the same thing |
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| [16:28:48] | nighthawk: | I'm working off the example conf as a template |
| [16:29:08] | wagnerrp: | it is supposed to supply a default directory for that |
| [16:29:35] | nighthawk: | ok, I currently have episodeimagedir set in the conf |
| [16:29:48] | wagnerrp: | have to go, good luck |
| [16:29:55] | nighthawk: | thx :) |
| [16:32:59] | nighthawk: | ah, I think I got it... |
| [16:33:02] | nighthawk: | case issues |
| [16:33:27] | nighthawk: | I may submit a patch with some code to give a better error in the situation if this proves accurate |
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| [16:37:06] | juski: | ah nuts. new widget is doing $tuff but the images aren't being rotated |
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| [17:09:43] | cityLights: | hi |
| [17:10:13] | cityLights: | does the radeon driver accelarate video playback? |
| [17:10:46] | cityLights: | for example , if I play one video on a R200 chipset at a certain cpu load |
| [17:11:00] | cityLights: | I can play 2 videos on a R300 with the same cpu load? |
| [17:12:15] | juski: | oh ****ing **** **** :D |
| [17:12:34] | cityLights: | I mean what does xv accel mean? |
| [17:14:45] | laga: | cityLights: it means that certain parts of video playback, like colorspace conversion and zooming (ie fullscreen) are handled by the VGA card |
| [17:15:01] | cityLights: | thnaks laga |
| [17:15:23] | cityLights: | does opengl has anything to do with that? |
| [17:15:38] | nighthawk: | opengl is a different way of displaying |
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| [17:15:45] | nighthawk: | alternative to xv |
| [17:16:10] | cityLights: | so opengl on a R300 ati display chipset is faster then on the R200? |
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| [17:16:29] | nighthawk: | dunno, you'd have to google that one |
| [17:16:40] | laga: | cityLights: would you enlighten us on the reason for asking that question? |
| [17:17:22] | cityLights: | I had a ati 7500 card , and consider using a R350 based card |
| [17:17:44] | cityLights: | but that card has a power connector and drow more power |
| [17:18:00] | cityLights: | so unless it does help I can use the 7500 |
| [17:18:06] | nighthawk: | I'd say test them both, see if it gives teh same quality |
| [17:18:12] | cityLights: | I do basic 2d stuff |
| [17:18:14] | cesman: | cityLights: make it easy on yourself, get a card w/ an nvidia based chipset |
| [17:18:33] | sphery: | within Myth, generally using OpenGL video renderer is slower than Xv |
| [17:18:46] | cityLights: | hi sphery |
| [17:18:55] | cityLights: | sphery: you got an ati card – right? |
| [17:19:06] | nighthawk: | I have found that vdpau upscaling kinda sux |
| [17:19:09] | sphery: | And the OpenGL renderer isn't supported in -fixes (it has known bugs/problems that won't be fixed) and not that great in trunk/0.22 |
| [17:19:22] | sphery: | cityLights: no, I have nvidia for all my myth boxes |
| [17:19:38] | cityLights: | I think opengl stress my cpu |
| [17:19:56] | cityLights: | it used to stress my cpu when I used the 7500 |
| [17:19:58] | sphery: | I only have ATI on boxes that never run myth (and that generally don't need any kind of acceleration) |
| [17:20:08] | cityLights: | ok |
| [17:20:25] | cityLights: | so will I benefit from the better ATI card? |
| [17:20:33] | sphery: | don't know the current status of OpenGL support in the ati drivers, but nvidia's is probably easier |
| [17:20:45] | sphery: | not at all |
| [17:21:00] | cityLights: | does it off-load the cpu when playing opengl? |
| [17:21:05] | sphery: | the only real benefit to getting a faster card is that it likely has faster memory in it, but the difference is minor |
| [17:21:19] | sphery: | basically, no |
| [17:21:42] | cityLights: | does nvidia offload the cpu with non vdpau stuff? |
| [17:21:43] | sphery: | still decoded by the CPU, but then shoved across the OpenGL API to get it to screen |
| [17:21:47] | cityLights: | like xvideo |
| [17:21:54] | sphery: | and that is harder/more processor intensive than Xv |
| [17:22:04] | sphery: | pretty much worse than Xv |
| [17:22:11] | sphery: | and with -fixes you can only play back one video |
| [17:22:13] | sphery: | then reboot |
| [17:22:15] | cityLights: | so why use opengl? |
| [17:22:54] | sphery: | because driver vendors were dropping their "chromakey" video support and we didn't yet know that nvidia was planning VDPAU |
| [17:23:30] | sphery: | Xv had traditionally used chromakeyed video |
| [17:23:34] | cityLights: | chromakey is when you pass color information to the tv set |
| [17:23:55] | cityLights: | is this all relevent only for HD? |
| [17:24:20] | sphery: | chromakey is when you specify a color and tell the video card to replace every pixel of that color with the video |
| [17:25:15] | cityLights: | so new graphic cards that dont support chromakey need another way to show video? |
| [17:25:15] | sphery: | so with a chromakeyed video output, you can actually tell it to use a value of 0 for the key and then make a black xterminal and put it on top of the video and you'll see the video where the terminal is |
| [17:25:21] | sphery: | with text floating on top |
| [17:25:34] | sphery: | not that you'd ever do that, but it shows what's going on |
| [17:25:58] | cityLights: | is that all relevent to SD? |
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| [17:26:20] | cityLights: | thanks for explaining this |
| [17:26:22] | sphery: | SD = standard definition? |
| [17:26:27] | cityLights: | yes |
| [17:26:38] | sphery: | it's relevant to all video displayed using a chromakeyed video output mechanism |
| [17:26:56] | sphery: | note that newer cards have implemented Xv differently and many don't support chromakey |
| [17:26:58] | cityLights: | so that is the way Xv works? |
| [17:27:16] | sphery: | on all old cards I know of |
| [17:27:38] | cityLights: | isnt that handeled in the xf86 driver leavel? |
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| [17:27:48] | sphery: | some newer ones use a different approach (starting with about the nvidia 6x00 series or so and probably the ati stuff from that generation)) |
| [17:28:12] | sphery: | yes, the low-level stuff is in the driver |
| [17:28:42] | cityLights: | let me then ask this |
| [17:29:10] | cityLights: | is there any advantage to one ati card over any other on AGP alots? |
| [17:29:33] | sphery: | but the choice of using a chromakeyed Xv drawable is still visible at the app leve |
| [17:29:37] | sphery: | level |
| [17:29:46] | sphery: | generally, not much |
| [17:30:17] | cityLights: | is there an advatage to using a nvidia 5200fx over any ati? |
| [17:30:29] | cityLights: | I mean according to what you wrote |
| [17:30:31] | sphery: | main benefit is ease of configuration |
| [17:30:36] | cityLights: | both accept chromakey |
| [17:31:00] | sphery: | basically, unless you're doing VDPAU, the video card requirements for MythTV are small |
| [17:31:10] | cityLights: | so |
| [17:31:18] | sphery: | and VDPAU is really the only way to offload decoding to the GPU |
| [17:31:34] | cityLights: | I was told that a gfx card can decode mpeg stream thus off load the cpu |
| [17:31:38] | sphery: | if what you have works, then switching proably won't provide any benefit |
| [17:31:41] | cityLights: | is that false? |
| [17:31:42] | juski: | sphery: http://tinyurl.com/msy4m6 – poor video capture rate but you get the idea |
| [17:31:49] | sphery: | cityLights: and that's true--but not on GNU/Linux |
| [17:32:01] | sphery: | on Windows they almost all have some support for that |
| [17:32:18] | cityLights: | so nvidia and ati dont provide an api for mpeg accelaration? |
| [17:32:28] | GreyFoxx: | It all depends on what card you have |
| [17:32:29] | sphery: | GNU/Linux suffers from a) a lack of an X Windows standard for that, and b) lack of driver support |
| [17:32:30] | cityLights: | aint that Xvmc? |
| [17:32:44] | wombo: | no |
| [17:32:45] | GreyFoxx: | XvMC frankly, sucks for many reasons, and only works for old cards |
| [17:32:51] | sphery: | XvMC only does some math for certain types of video (basically MPEG-2 only) |
| [17:32:59] | sphery: | and it's not much offload |
| [17:33:00] | GreyFoxx: | newer cards are required for VDPAU , mpeg2, h264 and so on\ |
| [17:33:04] | sphery: | you're much better off not using it |
| [17:33:05] | wombo: | why all these questions? |
| [17:33:20] | sphery: | and right, vdpau is the way to go if you want GPU decode accel |
| [17:33:33] | cityLights: | ok |
| [17:33:36] | cityLights: | thanks |
| [17:33:51] | cityLights: | I will put the 7500 card back in |
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| [17:34:00] | GreyFoxx: | That's too old for VDPAU |
| [17:34:20] | cityLights: | btw, there used to be a module for ati all in wonder cards |
| [17:34:29] | cityLights: | which allowed to view tv in linux |
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| [17:34:37] | GreyFoxx: | gatos |
| [17:34:41] | cityLights: | did it ever work with myth? |
| [17:34:45] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [17:34:53] | juski: | the only devices ever to benefit from full xvmc offload were board with Unichrome GPUs, predominant on Via Epia stuff (teh suck) |
| [17:34:55] | cityLights: | lack of development? |
| [17:35:15] | GreyFoxx: | cityLights: and just thw ay it worked. It directs the video directly to the screen. Not to an app for recording |
| [17:35:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | Ok, that's it... Just lost *all* sat signal from a thuderstorm... been 20 mins now... that's never happened that bad before – that's the final straw, I'm going to FiOS now... DOH! |
| [17:35:33] | GreyFoxx: | It just never was part of the V4L standard |
| [17:35:57] | GreyFoxx: | dish get moved in the window ? |
| [17:35:59] | GreyFoxx: | wind |
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| [17:36:18] | cityLights: | last question |
| [17:36:24] | juski: | time for beer to celebrate making a new widget. I really should be helping out with tickets but have no idea where to start.. that & I have an enforced night off computing |
| [17:36:33] | cityLights: | is v4l done in the kernel while alsa in user space? |
| [17:37:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | GreyFoxx: No... it's secured quite well. I've had some 'rain fade' before, but this is excessive... I've been on the fence about going to FiOS HD anyways... this is a good 'excuse' for the wife... ;-) |
| [17:39:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | GreyFoxx: I usualy get 80–90% signal strength, right now it's 0%... very nasty storm right now. |
| [17:39:16] | cityLights: | btw, I scored well at data structes , remeber I asked for help here? |
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| [17:49:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | GreyFoxx: 40–60% signal on 61.5, which for me is 40 degrees up with absolutely no obstructions possible... usually get 98% on that puppy... |
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| [17:56:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | GreyFoxx: Oh yeah, I forgot... it's "Bill"... DOH! Well, I will probably still use it as an excuse to go to FiOS... |
| [18:00:52] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, he might have something to do with it: http://jartz.gotdns.com:8008/files/bill.png |
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| [18:15:21] | whoever: | has anyone gotten a pcmcia cable card to work on a desktop? |
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| [18:22:16] | _ben: | mmm, anyone able to give me a hand with lirc? |
| [18:22:50] | _ben: | when i use irw, and press my * button, it shows * as pressed, but when I have * in my lirc config it breaks stuff |
| [18:23:03] | _ben: | do i like, need to escape * or something in the config? |
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| [18:26:05] | CoreDump|cf-18: | just rename * to something else in you RC definition |
| [18:26:05] | CoreDump|cf-18: | mine's just called "Star" |
| [18:29:39] | juski: | beatbreak: rename it to 'Star' :) |
| [18:29:52] | juski: | erm.. _ben rename it to 'Star' |
| [18:29:53] | CoreDump|cf-18: | (ie: edit lircd.conf) |
| [18:30:15] | nighthawk: | in trunk, is it possible to disable the parental setting all together? |
| [18:30:28] | nighthawk: | for example, in mythvideo, (graphite theme) it shows the current level on the top right |
| [18:30:36] | juski: | we should ban anybody with non-alphanumeric first characters :) |
| [18:31:04] | CoreDump|cf-18: | I believe it is being called asterix as well? |
| [18:31:06] | juski: | nighthawk: you mean stop showing it? just edit the theme |
| [18:31:14] | juski: | asterisk |
| [18:31:16] | nighthawk: | juski: that would work too :P |
| [18:34:50] | CoreDump|cf-18: | this is probably a silly question, but is trunk useable enough for daily operation as main mythtv box? |
| [18:36:06] | _ben: | ta dudes, worked a treat |
| [18:36:23] | juski: | CoreDump|cf-18: YMMV |
| [18:36:23] | Anduin_: | CoreDump|cf-18: Only if you are fine when it isn't |
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| [18:37:26] | Dagmar: | Clearly I'm the only person on right now with actual testicles |
| [18:37:44] | Dagmar: | CoreDump|cf-18: No, trunk isn't what you want if you're just wanting day-to-day use |
| [18:38:10] | Dagmar: | You'll love 0.21-fixes tho |
| [18:38:35] | CoreDump|cf-18: | Dagmar: that remains to be seen |
| [18:38:53] | juski: | unless there's some feature you absolutely can't live without & it's only in trunk, FWIW I'd only ever use -fixes |
| [18:39:08] | nighthawk: | graphite theme is a can't live without for me :D |
| [18:39:20] | juski: | but then if nobody was ever brave enough to run trunk, nothing would ever get fixed |
| [18:39:51] | CoreDump|cf-18: | Dagmar: thanks |
| [18:40:43] | sebrock: | is it possible to "force" transcoding by pressing a button or is it strictly up to schedule and auto? |
| [18:41:06] | CoreDump|cf-18: | true |
| [18:41:18] | CoreDump|cf-18: | I'll try building and installing it in ~ |
| [18:41:31] | juski: | sebrock: you can trigger transcode jobs from 'watch recordings' too |
| [18:41:46] | sebrock: | I usually don't transcode as I figure once seen I don't need to see it again. However the other day I recorded something I would like to share with my friend, so I would like to transcode afterwards |
| [18:41:49] | sebrock: | alright |
| [18:41:50] | juski: | INFO menu – > JOB OPTIONS |
| [18:42:14] | juski: | sebrock: you had my sympathy right up until 'I would like to share' |
| [18:42:21] | CoreDump|cf-18: | yay for --runprefix I guess |
| [18:43:09] | [Peter]: | juski: some people actually live in countries where it's considered fair use to share recordings with friends ;) |
| [18:43:36] | CoreDump|cf-18: | there are legal reasons for exporting and sharing stuff... |
| [18:43:42] | juski: | no there are not |
| [18:43:49] | juski: | as far as this channel is concerned... |
| [18:44:59] | CoreDump|cf-18: | "share" != uploading a torrent. share = copying a recording to a thumbdrive for a friend who missed the tv broadcast. |
| [18:45:10] | ** laga outlaws thumbdrives ** | |
| [18:45:31] | juski: | so if some lawyers come along want to sue mythtv out of existence because of evidence they found of users wanting to share media they recorded via the logs of this channel – will you come rallying to support it? |
| [18:45:50] | iamlindoro: | s/come rallying to support it/pay the legal fees/ |
| [18:46:01] | [Peter]: | should I bring out the tinfoil hat now? =) |
| [18:46:04] | juski: | in all likelihood, NO you bloody wouldn't |
| [18:46:15] | iamlindoro: | [Peter], It's not up for discussion in the channel, it's a rule |
| [18:46:20] | sebrock: | juski, I know.. however this one has high nostalgica value for my family so I have to make an exception |
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| [18:46:33] | sebrock: | AND it is legal to share with family in sweden |
| [18:46:35] | iamlindoro: | the channel must conform to the laws of where the lion's share of the devs live... and that's the US |
| [18:46:37] | juski: | you can DO it all you blimmin well want for all I care |
| [18:46:41] | juski: | just don't talk about it IN HERE |
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| [18:47:15] | juski: | iamlindoro: I'm sorry, you have to watch a video I posted a link to. Obligatory |
| [18:47:21] | ** CoreDump|cf-18 has insurance against braindead lawyers ;) ** | |
| [18:47:27] | iamlindoro: | juski, how long ago? |
| [18:47:36] | juski: | http://homepage.ntlworld.com/justin.hornsby2/stuff/test.mpeg |
| [18:47:48] | iamlindoro: | Heh! Nice job! |
| [18:48:13] | juski: | one for 0.23 by the time I've tidied it up |
| [18:48:25] | iamlindoro: | congrats |
| [18:49:11] | juski: | next up is making the second hand sweep. should be easy but due to the way Pulse() isn't called as regular as clockwork (sometimes) it may ick a little |
| [18:51:16] | juski: | for reference here's the XML: http://pastebin.ca/1539255 |
| [18:51:23] | iamlindoro: | I have a lot of ideas about where I'd like to go from Graphite, but really need a selection of matrix transforms to do it |
| [18:51:42] | juski: | iamlindoro: call me in a few weeks on that ;-) |
| [18:51:52] | juski: | if not two |
| [18:52:04] | iamlindoro: | and possibly/probably pathed buttonlists |
| [18:52:10] | juski: | and that |
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| [18:52:33] | iamlindoro: | nice |
| [18:52:39] | juski: | hope somebody can fix the negative coordinates issues first though |
| [18:52:56] | juski: | damn release plan, getting in the way of all the fun ;-) |
| [18:53:42] | iamlindoro: | too late to polish up a theme based on those concepts anyway |
| [18:53:42] | CoreDump|cf-18: | I gotta admit, your buildsystem rocks |
| [18:54:13] | juski: | iamlindoro: anyway maybe I'll get distracted by other things like movement in the meantime |
| [18:54:16] | iamlindoro: | If we can get that stuff in early in the .23 cycle then it should be possible to have something quite flashy for next release |
| [18:54:36] | juski: | iamlindoro: it's started already.. got the building blocks out :D |
| [18:54:56] | juski: | maintaining all my diffs is gonna be a bitch though |
| [18:55:19] | juski: | might do a RotatePulse next, then tackle the blurring I talked about |
| [18:55:20] | sebrock: | juski, no button in mythweb for this yet right? |
| [18:55:27] | juski: | sebrock: I dunno |
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| [18:55:38] | juski: | no not in 0.21-fixes |
| [18:56:19] | juski: | think I'll use my stills camera to make a video of the work I'm doing in future |
| [18:56:24] | juski: | xvidcap sucks |
| [18:57:22] | juski: | iamlindoro: who's gonna want to tackle abstracting out the transitions? ;-) |
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| [18:58:00] | ** iamlindoro nominates notiamlindoro ** | |
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| [19:01:59] | iamlindoro: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6836 |
| [19:02:10] | iamlindoro: | Why does that guy think we need a log/BT for *every* crash? |
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| [19:06:59] | wagnerrp: | 'justin.hornsby2'.... there was already someone else of that name on the hosting provider? |
| [19:07:27] | CoreDump|cf-18: | wow, that was easy |
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| [19:18:40] | CoreDump|cf-18: | is it me or does trunk tune dvb-t channels noticeably faster than stable? |
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| [19:27:49] | juski: | wagnerrp: justin.hornsby was taken by the set top box when I registered its email address. Pity the email never worked |
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| [19:38:58] | _ben: | the new intel drivers are quite cool (i switched to ubuntu karmic) |
| [19:39:08] | _ben: | no problems with hd stuff |
| [19:39:56] | [Peter]: | I'm sure they'll have problems with HD on my low voltage CPU laptop =) |
| [19:40:08] | _ben: | heh, yeah |
| [19:40:22] | _ben: | this is just a board with hdmi on it |
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| [20:22:16] | josh_: | Is there any way to have mythtv re-scan the channel ordering? I dont want to find any more channels, the channels I already have is in no order that I can find whatsoever |
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| [20:34:51] | josh_: | Anyone else showing "Mouse Hunt" on cartoon network starting at 3:30 instead of 3:00 ? |
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| [20:45:20] | J-e-f-f-A: | josh_: Shows at 4:00pm – 5:30pm here (Eastern time zone) |
| [20:46:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | er... 4–6 that is... ;-) |
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| [20:48:02] | LanUser: | Hello – I updated to the latest .21-fixes SVN last night and now I don't get recordings previews anymore, is this a new bug maybe or just me? |
| [20:51:30] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, You asked about multiple connections to the telnet interface a few days back I think: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5831 |
| [20:52:53] | Dagmar: | LanUser: Check your logs |
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| [21:02:34] | sid3windr: | jebus |
| [21:02:42] | sid3windr: | the mythtv commits list really does have a lot of traffic lately |
| [21:02:45] | ** sid3windr like ** | |
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| [21:18:14] | wagnerrp: | iamlindoro: i was just curious whether that was intentional |
| [21:18:21] | iamlindoro: | appears not |
| [21:18:27] | iamlindoro: | erm, well |
| [21:18:32] | iamlindoro: | not either, really |
| [21:18:58] | wagnerrp: | well... it was intentional in the sense that he didnt want to spend the time adding multiple interfaces, since he wasnt paid to |
| [21:19:04] | iamlindoro: | think Captain M was contracted for it it wasn't specified that it should be multi-connection capable |
| [21:19:07] | iamlindoro: | right |
| [21:21:00] | Dagmar: | Captain M? |
| [21:29:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | me |
| [21:30:22] | Captain_Murdoch: | Pluto didn't want/need/ask-for multiple-connections. controlling all frontends from a single location was the goal I believe. |
| [21:31:50] | Captain_Murdoch: | main use was their "follow me" functionality I think. |
| [21:33:05] | ** iamlindoro wonders if LMCE is still on .20.2 ** | |
| [21:33:32] | iamlindoro: | or if they'll make it to .21 in time for .22 ;) |
| [21:34:43] | iamlindoro: | linuxmce 0710 (2007 October)... heh... guess it's probably still .20.2 :) |
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| [21:37:56] | gbutters: | 8.10 is on 0.21.20080304 |
| [21:39:43] | iamlindoro: | Their "current release" is 0710 |
| [21:40:19] | AndyCap: | and betas/ dir has 7.10 beta. |
| [21:40:34] | iamlindoro: | Great, they've got .21 in beta ;) |
| [21:40:46] | iamlindoro: | Only 20 months after release and 2–3 weeks before .22 ;) |
| [21:41:06] | gbutters: | they are telling everyone to use the 810 alpha from the wiki |
| [21:41:29] | AndyCap: | gbutters: not what you get if you go to the site and press download |
| [21:42:07] | gbutters: | i know. but if you ask the devs they will tell you to use the alpha |
| [21:42:16] | iamlindoro: | then it shouldn't be an alpha |
| [21:42:23] | gbutters: | yep |
| [21:42:47] | gbutters: | they are expecting to release a beta real soon |
| [21:42:58] | iamlindoro: | Maybe I can enjoy 0904 in the summer of 2016 |
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| [21:43:27] | AndyCap: | iamlindoro: just in time for mythtv 0.26? :P |
| [21:43:39] | iamlindoro: | AndyCap, Exactly, not that it'll have that |
| [21:43:42] | gbutters: | back to yardwork |
| [21:43:47] | iamlindoro: | AndyCap, That'll be when they get .22 working |
| [21:45:29] | sid3windr: | hmm |
| [21:45:34] | sid3windr: | so .22 is 2–3 weeks away? |
| [21:45:36] | sid3windr: | :> |
| [21:45:44] | ** AndyCap goes to check on spooge, um elisa ** | |
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| [21:45:56] | AndyCap: | I mean moovida. |
| [21:46:24] | ** sid3windr was reading linuxmag march 2009 ** | |
| [21:46:33] | iamlindoro: | sid3windr, before october is the plan |
| [21:46:35] | sid3windr: | comparing elisa and freevo and somethingelse to myth |
| [21:46:59] | sid3windr: | the only thing I was wondering, which that article is talking about |
| [21:47:07] | sid3windr: | was the patents/codecs stuff :) |
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| [21:47:22] | brad2: | evening guys |
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| [22:18:33] | messerting: | Hi folks, is there a good FAQ or mailinglist link that can help me figure out this "Warning: No device tree for cardid 4" etc. errors I get when I try to configure a newly flushed mythtv install? |
| [22:18:59] | laga: | you need to configure diseqc. assuming this is dvb-s |
| [22:19:16] | messerting: | laga: hm, I've got DVB-C |
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| [22:21:35] | messerting: | oh, I think I used the wrong channels.conf |
| [22:22:08] | messerting: | mythtv-setup is scanning alright now it seems :) |
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| [22:42:31] | josh_: | So my channel ordering is all effed up. Channels arent' being sorted by number nor callsign alphabetical. Is there a way to make Myth reload the channel guide data? |
| [22:45:08] | messerting: | My backend log is complaining about "eno: Operation not permitted". Any suggestions on where to start looking? |
| [22:45:18] | messerting: | what is "eno"? :) |
| [22:49:29] | messerting: | mplayer, using the very same channels.conf, seems to work |
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| [22:52:22] | wagnerrp: | messerting: mythtv does not use a channels.conf |
| [22:52:55] | messerting: | wagnerrp: I use one when I configure the cards in mythtv-setup |
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| [22:53:09] | messerting: | maybe that is the problem? |
| [22:53:19] | josh_: | messerting, that's a one-time thing. |
| [22:53:20] | messerting: | do I have to make a "full scan" or something instead? |
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| [22:53:36] | josh_: | messerting, once you've imported your channels.conf, myth handles channels internally |
| [22:53:59] | messerting: | ok, so, what is "eno"? |
| [22:54:11] | messerting: | maybe something was wrong in my channels.conf? |
| [22:55:57] | messerting: | maybe it is related to EIT stuff? |
| [22:56:59] | ** messerting deleted all channels. doing a full scan of existing transports now... ** | |
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| [23:46:31] | nighthawk: | I've noticed that mythtv and mplayer both have optional joystick input support... is that commonly used?? |
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| [23:50:11] | wagnerrp: | lirc and keyboard input are by far the prevailing input methods |
| [23:50:28] | nighthawk: | yeah, that is what I would think |
| [23:50:56] | nighthawk: | some holdover from the days of gameport joysticks? |
| [23:51:48] | iamlindoro: | not really, everyone I know of who does it is using USB joysticks |
| [23:51:56] | iamlindoro: | including a Myth dev |
| [23:52:21] | iamlindoro: | It's just not a natural input choice for a DVR |
| [23:52:35] | nighthawk: | seems alien to me, to use a joystick for non game use, unless there is some model that lends itself |
| [23:52:40] | nighthawk: | oh, perhaps game pads? |
| [23:52:48] | iamlindoro: | That's the idea, yes |
| [23:52:58] | Dagmar: | Game pads fit into the mouth more easily than a keyboard |
| [23:53:08] | nighthawk: | ah, I was visualizing a HOTAS setup to channel surf :P |
| [23:53:54] | nighthawk: | now I'm nostalgic for the days of freespace 2 :( |
| [23:53:59] | ** wagnerrp visualizes nighthawk sitting in his 'fortress', built in his mom's basement ** | |
| [23:55:01] | nighthawk: | hehe, I did have one of those high end joystick/throttles (cant remember the brand, they are still around) for falcon4 when I was a teen |
| [23:55:28] | nighthawk: | by no means kevin smith's setup in DieHard 4 |
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| [23:56:28] | wagnerrp: | ive got one sitting next to me in a drawer |
| [23:56:40] | wagnerrp: | with another joystick on the shelf behind me, and an older one in the closet |
| [23:56:49] | nighthawk: | whats that mfgrs name? |
| [23:56:50] | wagnerrp: | but i would never even consider using such a device to control my tv |
| [23:56:56] | wagnerrp: | saitek |
| [23:56:59] | nighthawk: | ah yeah, that is it |
| [23:57:24] | wagnerrp: | saitek is a relative newcomer to HOTAS systems, you probably had a thrustmaster |
| [23:57:36] | nighthawk: | no, it was definitely a saitek |
| [23:58:08] | nighthawk: | their first usb model I think |
| [23:59:20] | wagnerrp: | you have an X36 or X45? |
| [23:59:22] | nighthawk: | x45 maybe? It is in a box out in my shed |
| [23:59:44] | nighthawk: | found their manual for the x45, but I dont think mine had silver trim, was all black |
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