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Monday, August 10th, 2009, 00:01 UTC

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iamlindoro:

carpenike, yes, it does

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iamlindoro:

(in MythVideo)

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Dagmar:

Had enough of kormoc's nonsense, have we?

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Dagmar:

All those damn patches.

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kormoc:

heh, aye, that jerk

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iamlindoro:

spends a lot of time banning himself, that kormoc

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carpenike:

iamlindoro: thanks.

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, #3579 should give you what you were asking for the other day

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carpenike:

Anybody have a recommended way to rip a video in linux w/out MythVideo that will retain all menus/etc?

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carpenike:

And not encode the video.

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, ie the folder images handled automatically for your series, though in a bit of a roundabout way

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carpenike:

vobcopy seems to be ripping only the main vob.

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iamlindoro:

dvd::rip, presumably

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GreyFoxx:

carpenike: cat /dev/moo > file.iso

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GreyFoxx:

thats literally all I ever doo

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GreyFoxx:

But if you have one of the dvd's with intentional flaws that might not do the job for you

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gbee:

carpenike: vobcopy will do a full copy of the DVD filesystem, look at --help

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GreyFoxx:

mythvideo has a background perfect ISO rip option as well

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carpenike:

yeah, think I missed the -m

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gbee:

but going with the ISO is probably the neatest solution

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iamlindoro:

curse trac and its fuzzy dates

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carpenike:

GreyFoxx: That doesn't break any encryption, right?

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GreyFoxx:

nope

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iamlindoro:

but neither does ripping in Myth, so that's moot

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carpenike:

yeah, vobcopy does though as I understand, right?

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gbee:

you just need decss installed

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carpenike:

yeah

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carpenike:

which if you can play the dvd than you've got it installed, right?

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gbee:

yep

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carpenike:

Is there any new news on when .22 will be released?

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iamlindoro:

Someday soonish

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iamlindoro:

But no official new news, no

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carpenike:

cool. Is it stable enough to run?

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carpenike:

if we wanted to grab the source and build it ourself?

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iamlindoro:

It *runs*, but I would not say it is as stable as the release, no

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gbee:

all relative

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iamlindoro:

more or less, if you're in it for new toys, I strongly advise waiting-- if you are in it to develop for myth or submit patches/fixes, by all means play on a spare computer

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gbee:

parts of the UI are incomplete, usable but maybe not very pretty, it doesn't crash that much but that depends on which bits you use – hardware etc

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carpenike:

right.

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carpenike:

hm. how do I create a seektable on a VIDEO_TS folder?

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iamlindoro:

You cannot

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GreyFoxx:

Nor should you need to

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carpenike:

ok. Mythfrontend hangs on the video_ts folder

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GreyFoxx:

iamlindoro: the patch works ok if the folder has an object with metadata, but if not I get a bunch of attempts to grab "No Cover" from the coverart SG

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GreyFoxx:

2009-08–09 21:49:31.687 RemoteFile(myth://Coverart@192.168.0.15:6543/No Cover)

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GreyFoxx:

2009-08–09 21:49:31.688 Error loading image to scale, from file: myth://Coverart@192.168.0.15:6543/No Cover

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, Hmm, that should be an easy fix, gimme two seconds

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GreyFoxx:

It would be nice if you could hit W on a folder and have it try to grab a folder.png and such for that series and or season

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, can you try the latest patch?

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GreyFoxx:

Still a few of them coming through though it seems to be fewer

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iamlindoro:

Hmmmm, not sure what other condition could lead to then getting through-- guess I may need to put some default values in and test

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iamlindoro:

er to them

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GreyFoxx:

Since Ive been using graphite for a few days I really notice the lag l,oading the fanart in my movies folder

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, Even after it's been cached? It's quite fast here after the initial load

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GreyFoxx:

After being loaded from the cache it's snappy

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GreyFoxx:

but the initial move from item to item is slow

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iamlindoro:

yes, that I can agree on

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iamlindoro:

It's part of my questioning regarding the ability to set a themer controlled imageload timer

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iamlindoro:

and a nice crossfade

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iamlindoro:

so that you could blast through the list and not do the fanart load until you idle on something

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iamlindoro:

and then have it crossfade in

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gbee:

GreyFoxx: plan to thread the image loading, so it will be backgrounded and not slow up movement through the lists

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gbee:

although if someone else wants to work on that it, I'm already pretty busy

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GreyFoxx:

iamlindoro: a crossfade would be neat

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iamlindoro:

I hear juski is our new openGL expert ;)

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GreyFoxx:

gbee: background loading would be sweet for sure

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juski:

heh. I've spent more than enough time on this now. I really need some help making this bastard ****ing rotate work right

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, the "failed to loads"... they are still Myth URLs?

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juski:

I *think* I can get around it by calculating the coordinates of the quad being drawn with trig (based on the angle) but that just seems insane when there's glRotatef

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GreyFoxx:

iamlindoro: Yup

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, can you try changing !icon_file.endsWith(VIDEO_COVERFILE_DEFAULT) to !icon_file.endsWith("No Cover") ?

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iamlindoro:

Not that it should matter, just can't figure out how it's getting past them as it is

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, ah!

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iamlindoro:

I've got it

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iamlindoro:

hang on

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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iamlindoro:

You said those directories have *no* metadata at all, right?

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iamlindoro:

ie, no coverfiles?

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GreyFoxx:

Im pretty sure

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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iamlindoro:

yeah, that makes sense

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx, http://pastebin.com/m62ab16f6

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iamlindoro:

That should do it

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iamlindoro:

was leaving icon_file equal to the last attempted node

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GreyFoxx:

weird. patch keeps complaining baout the diff

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GreyFoxx:

must be something with how I'm cut n pasting it

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iamlindoro:

added it to #3579

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iamlindoro:

that should work okay, probably pastebin.com's fault

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GreyFoxx:

That looks to have done it

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iamlindoro:

cool... Yeah, makes it a teensy bit nicer until you get around to selecting images yourself

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gbee:

pastebin.com converts everything to DOS line endings

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GreyFoxx:

ahhh

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GreyFoxx:

ok

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gbee:

which is why we recommend pastebin.ca instead :)

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iamlindoro:

.ca always seems to take ages for me, but I'll use it in the future

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gbee:

yeah, it can be slow at times, if someone finds a better alternative ...

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iamlindoro:

I liked rafb.net but they closed down their paste site, sigh

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GreyFoxx:

historically the .ca one was faster and more reliable

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GreyFoxx:

but I guess popularity can ruin everything :)

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gbee:

Stephen Olesen creator/owner of pastebin.ca is a mythtv user too

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gbee:

maybe SD should help him out with his hardware expenses :)

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GreyFoxx:

hehe

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iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, Nice, lots of new python bindings for people to use :)

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juski:

I can see me having to work my way through some gl tutorials. Hehehehe

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gbee:

you'll be writing them before long

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juski:

all I wanna do is make a fscking clock.. wah

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gbee:

I'm going to be a zombie tomorrow

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iamlindoro:

juski, are you sure it's an openGL issue? Or does MythUI perhaps just draw the whole menu bar as a single Image?

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juski:

iamlindoro: I'm not sure of *anything* anymore

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juski:

knowing what little I do know, I suspect the latter

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iamlindoro:

juski, Since we define the buttonlist with a fixed area, it stands to reason that maybe it draws it as one unit too

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iamlindoro:

Wondering whether the solution might be to work around it in mythuibuttonlist

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juski:

but that said, if I don't do the PushMatrix() & PopMatrix() before & after the definition of the elements *all* the icon images are rotated by themselves

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juski:

so, hell knows

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juski:

and if I define a single icon image to have rotation, only that one is rotated

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juski:

go figure

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gbee:

it's not that

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juski:

I hope it's something simple

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gbee:

each component image is rendered individually

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juski:

like I said I'll try the trig method tomorrow, God help me – and if that works we can all scratch our heads

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juski:

it's not like a bit of sin & cos takes up that many cycles

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gbee:

but I'm not going to try and understand the bug tonight, I need sleep

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juski:

nothing like as elegant as a simple rotate in gl though :-\

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juski:

iamlindoro: and when I was operating on the texture matrix, only that was being rotated

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juski:

so the one with the swirly smear effect on the images.. that was proof of that

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juski:

s/one/screenshot

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juski:

if it's a problem with the opengl on this laptop I will frigging burn it

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juski:

much more likely to be my unfamilarity with a) the painter code and b) opengl :)

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juski:

anyway, I'm further ahead than I was a couple of days ago.. and I need sleeeeep

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juski:

so nn all :)

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iamlindoro:

night

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juski:

iamlindoro: last thing – I put a VERBOSE in to report the coordinates of the QUAD being operated on, and it only reports things the size of the icon images. so there

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iamlindoro:

juski, I believe you, just tossing out ideas :)

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iamlindoro:

At least I looked :)

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juski:

heh

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Dr{Wh0}:

Trying to import channels.conf i get mythtv-setup: ../../src/xcb_lock.c:33: _XCBUnlockDisplay: Assertion `xcb_get_request_sent(dpy->xcb->connection) == dpy->request' failed.

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Dr{Wh0}:

google leads me all over related to race condition but that was in 2008

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Hilikus:

i just foundout rerecording is based on a flag on oldrecorded. does that mean that if i tell it to rerecord a show it will ALWAYS rerecord it? cause i always tought it was just one more time

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carpenike:

hm, I ripped a dvd using vobcopy and now when mythtfrontend runs it it hangs on the FBI warning screen.

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elmojo:

heh, looks like S3 supports VDPAU now -> http://www.s3graphics.com/en/drivers/download . . . x?seriesId=4

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dibbz:

sweet

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elmojo:

apparently VIA/S3 released some PCIe cards that support it, 540 GTX or 530 GT

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dibbz:

the s3 site says the 430gt as well

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elmojo:

too bad I refuse to ever buy anything made by VIA again

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dibbz:

cant see anywhere in .au that sells s3 video cards anyway

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dibbz:

they couldnt compete with a 9500gt for $70 anyway

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elmojo:

yeah, no way I'm moving away from Nvidia

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dibbz:

yeh its the devil you know

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dibbz:

years of crap forcewares

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dibbz:

i forgot all of that when the 180/185's came good

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elmojo:

yes their linux support works great these days

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carpenike:

heh, check this out for a diskless mythfrontend: http://fit-pc2.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

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iamlindoro:

only if all you want is SD

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elmojo:

iamlindoro: already closing tickets ;)

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iamlindoro:

elmojo, Needed to test in some small way ;)

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iamlindoro:

Wasn't sure what the right amount of time was to wait :)

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elmojo:

cool – you and sphery definitely should be a big help to the other devs

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sphery:

he didn't even let the bits on the hard drive cool off before that one

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elmojo:

hehe

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** kormoc assigns the 575 outstanding tickets to iamlindoro and sphery **

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** iamlindoro marks 757 tickets closed->wontfix **

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iamlindoro:

er 575

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sphery:

I'll be gone this week, so you wanna work through those before I'm back, iamlindoro ?

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iamlindoro:

done!

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** kormoc laughs **

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elmojo:

you guys have commit access to?

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** iamlindoro branches 1.0 since we have no tickets **

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kormoc:

Ha!

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kormoc:

elmojo: aye, they do now!

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kormoc:

elmojo: Suckers! ;)

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elmojo:

nice

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sphery:

Well, I figured, it's only a 3rd mortgage on my house, but it's an investment.

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sphery:

Oh, yeah, kormoc--money order is in the mail.

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kormoc:

Pleasure doing business with ya

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iamlindoro:

You... only had to pay him?

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iamlindoro:

Can't... get... clean...

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** kormoc laughs **

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iamlindoro:

Guess this means I actually ahve to subscribe to commits

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kormoc:

I just use the rss feed for that actually

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iamlindoro:

I tend to read it in firefox

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kormoc:

google reader! ;)

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iamlindoro:

My buddy is way into that, I never really got into it because I don't have enough feeds that I read regularly

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mishehu:

to the asylum? *grin*

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mishehu:

sorry man, couldn't resist

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iamlindoro:

Ahhh, that was cathartic

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Timrit:

good day. i am having a problem watching recorded shows but am able to watch live tv. http://linuxcranks.pastebin.com/d37a4f63e contains the output from launching from console. I am running Arch linux 32bit. playback works fine from the Ubuntu install on this same machine. the backend is a seperate machine running mythbuntu 8.04.

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iamlindoro:

Timrit, I'd wager a guess you have a broken DB. Not being able to get a basename suggests some funky table brokenness

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iamlindoro:

probably a broken recorded or recordedprogram table

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iamlindoro:

mysqlcheck -u mythtv -p mythconverg

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iamlindoro:

and then enter your mythtv MySQL user apssword when prompted

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iamlindoro:

(the above to be run on the backend)

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Shadow__X:

iamlindoro: ftw!!!

[03:25:12]

Shadow__X:

he is like a jaded backhanded commenting superhero

[03:25:13]

Shadow__X:

hurray

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iamlindoro:

Sheesh, and that's the response I get when I'm *helpful* ;)

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** Shadow__X looks up with a twinkle in his eye i wanna be like iamlindoro when i grow up **

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iamlindoro:

Don't aim so low

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Shadow__X:

oh come on

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Shadow__X:

the volunteering the marathon runnign

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Shadow__X:

the myth themes

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iamlindoro:

Well I'm flattered

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Shadow__X:

:)

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Shadow__X:

how do i run mythfrontend in terminal on a mac i want to run it with the --geometry option

[03:29:36]

Shadow__X:

ah nevermind i find the answer to my own question

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Shadow__X:

Mythfrontend.app/Contents/MacOS/mythfrontend

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echosyp:

can anyone help me resolve a mythweb issue, the browser is telling me that the server is redirecting in a way that will never complete

[03:42:30]

echosyp:

i also have to run the GUI's using XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS="1" (which seems to work)

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xris:

echosyp: can you try wget on the URL and get just the headers that are being returned?

[03:44:43]

echosyp:

it freaked out

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kormoc:

echosyp: the skip argb is a known issue for ATI card users

[03:44:56]

kormoc:

and what version of mythweb/myth are you on?

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echosyp:

what was in the ubuntu repo

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kormoc:

that doesn't help the majority of the world that doesn't use ubuntu...

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echosyp:

that was my quick answer (while i looked)

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echosyp:

.21.0

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echosyp:

Reusing existing connection to 192.168.120.124:80.

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echosyp:

HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found

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echosyp:

Location: /mythweb/tv/channel/1004/1249875852 [following]

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echosyp:

20 redirections exceeded.

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echosyp:

sorry, thats what wget said

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xris:

and what URL were you trying to get to?

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xris:

or does it always redirect to that same URL?

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echosyp:

just anytime i click on a channel in the listings

[03:49:15]

echosyp:

yes, it redirects to the same url

[03:49:54]

echosyp:

actually, no it doesn't

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echosyp:

it redirects after i click it, then redirects to the same place 10 times, then increments the# at the end of the url by 1 and redirects there 10 times before telling me to get lost

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kormoc:

that makes no sense

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echosyp:

which is why im here

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kormoc:

and it only happens with the channel details?

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echosyp:

as far as i can tell

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echosyp:

my recorded program is only 17k too

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echosyp:

which i scheduled through mythweb

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iamlindoro:

Heh

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iamlindoro:

"Kind of crosspost, but since my original problem led me here. http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6068 Extremly bad WAF, and bad mouth bringing. "

[03:54:58]

iamlindoro:

bad mouth bringing?

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kormoc:

causes swearing to happen

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kormoc:

horrible way to say it, but...

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iamlindoro:

I figured, but alternate connotations are just as amusing

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Dagmar:

"potty-mouth capable"

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Dagmar:

s/capable/enabling/;

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Dagmar:

"cuss-tacular"

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echosyp:

when i try to run my frontend it just stalls at, 2009-08–09 23:02:18.441 New DB connection, total: 1

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echosyp:

maybe im just being impatient

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sphery:

have you run mythtv-setup or mythbackend, yet?

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echosyp:

yes

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Dagmar:

Did you install the fonts

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sphery:

ati video card?

[04:04:51]

echosyp:

yeah

[04:05:01]

echosyp:

yes i have ati video cards that is

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Dagmar:

Describe how it "stalls"

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echosyp:

Dagmar, what fonts are you speaking of?

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sphery:

might be that you need to: export LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT="1"

[04:05:49]

Dagmar:

Microsoft True Type Fonts for Teh Interwebs actually, but there's a possibility it's not that

[04:06:08]

echosyp:

Dagmar, it stops where i previously said

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, Would you have any objection to my closing #3342 as "wontfix"? I think our artwork search is already more sophisticated than this, and dropping back up the folder tree to find any image seems... bad

[04:06:21]

Dagmar:

it stops with a line of text in a log file?

[04:06:25]

Dagmar:

The screen doesn't change at all?

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echosyp:

a line of text in a terminal window on my screen

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sphery:

echosyp: if not the above, try: export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS="1"

[04:06:54]

Dagmar:

So, can you run an xterm from that same terminal and have a new xterm appear?

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sphery:

then just start mythfrontend... I /think/ it's the first one

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echosyp:

k

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sphery:

actually, you may need both, but start with the first

[04:08:21]

sphery:

(or it may be something completely different... I'm just guessing here as I half remember something similar with ati cards)

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echosyp:

i'll try those out and hope for the best

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android6011:

what are the best and most compatible stand alone tuners? (slingbox, hdhomerun etc) I want both SD and HD support

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iamlindoro:

What counts as a "stand alone tuner?" Since the HDHR and slingbox are totally different

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iamlindoro:

and the slingbox isn't really a tuner anyway (and useless for myth)

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android6011:

idk just like a tuner that doesnt have to be plugged right into a computer i guess

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android6011:

or anything kinda like hdhr

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iamlindoro:

HDHR is the only network connected tuner

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iamlindoro:

which will support unencrypted cable or OTA only

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android6011:

ok, but it doesnt support analog does it?

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iamlindoro:

meaning (for most people) local channels and community access

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iamlindoro:

no, no analog support

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android6011:

so except for direct install like pci/pcie tuners hdhr is the only option

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sphery:

android6011: planning on setting up a mythbackend in a VM?

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Shadow__X:

analo

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android6011:

i thought about doing a vm but i just dont know

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sphery:

there are some USB ones, too

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android6011:

what are some of the better usb ones

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sphery:

And, if you're doing "normal" backends as remote backends and are just trying to find a way of getting a tuner for a master backend, you can always set up a "test" card (that captures from an MPEG-2 file) in the VM for the master--just so all your backends have at least one capture device

[04:19:06]

android6011:

right now i just have a ati tv wonder ve, horrible quality picture, and 1800 hvr which is working decent for digital except i keep getting a lot of hangups

[04:19:56]

sphery:

I don't know which USB ones are good. I'm not a fan of USB, yet.

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echosyp:

alright, i tried both of those, and im its still stalling, QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket

[04:20:06]

echosyp:

i didn't see that before

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echosyp:

2009-08–09 23:17:07.570 MediaRenderer::HttpServer Create Error

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android6011:

ya i don't know if usb is my best option either. my problem is i am kinda trying to stay low power without a bunch of machines running, so i am trying to combine at very least a mythtv backend + nas

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sphery:

echosyp: that soudns like something you'd get if you already had mythfrontend running and tried starting it again

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android6011:

i dont mind having 1 lower power machine running 24/7 especially if its serving files and recording on demand

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sphery:

android6011: yeah, I don't know which devices are best for low power.

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android6011:

i mean im not going so low power a few pci cards will cause me to say no

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echosyp:

you were right, it was still trying to open, but it still stalls at the previous place

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sphery:

though the next version of myth will have support for remote backends shutting down and waking up on demand

[04:23:11]

echosyp:

fonts ARE installed

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Dagmar:

If it doesn't even instantate the window then fonts are not your problem

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android6011:

waking on demand, like if a recording is scheduled, or just when a frontend tries to get access

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Dagmar:

If you can't get it to spawn another xterm from just typing xterm, Myth isn't your problem

[04:23:46]

sphery:

echosyp: wanna pastebin ( http://pastebin.ca/ ) the whole frontend log you get when you try to start

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sphery:

android6011: the former... If a frontend tries to get access, it won't wake.

[04:24:28]

sphery:

if the frontend (you/interactive) want access, you'll have to start it.

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android6011:

i see, how come both arnt incorporated

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sphery:

mainly because the definition of when a frontend needs a specific backend to be awake is rather vague

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android6011:

i see

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sphery:

it may wake one for LiveTV (I don't know/haven't looked that deeply), but won't wake it for recordings it has or filesystems it has or ...

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echosyp:

the log only says "Starting mythfrontend.real"

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android6011:

well thats definitely something I'll have to keep in mind then. Is there any time frame when next version of myth might be released? I hear its pretty stable

[04:26:43]

echosyp:

maybe im just being impatient, i'll try and open it and go smoke a cig while it sits for a minute

[04:27:19]

iamlindoro:

it's stable compared to where it has been, but it's still got a fair amount of polishing to do to be ready to be called "Stable"... It will be soon

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sphery:

actually, I'm thinking that a /very/ similar issue is common on some of the new distros, but I really can't remember what it was/how to fix it.

[04:27:41]

iamlindoro:

which is my way of saying, don't run trunk, because the little extra bit of effort necessary to make it usable for most is going to be worked on soon

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iamlindoro:

so better to wait the little bit it will be

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android6011:

sounds good

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android6011:

so right now is most of the dev work for the next version just some bug fixes etc?

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iamlindoro:

Very few major milestones are still pending, but there are a couple, otherwise it's mostly bugfixes

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android6011:

ok

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sphery:

echosyp: but I'm way too tired to remember, so I guess that's my queue to get some sleep... Good luck--maybe you'll find someone else who actually remembers.

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android6011:

is there a place on the site that tracks the milestone completions?

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iamlindoro:

android6011, Not really-- there is a timeline on trac, but it's not accurate (ie most people keep these things in mind, not on the web)

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android6011:

ok

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android6011:

thats what i figured, because i looked a while back and couldn't really find anything

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: I liked the idea and yeah this was some time ago, do what you want.

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Anduin:

s/and/but

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, If you liked the idea, then I'll just rework it if that's okay

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android6011:

how well, if at all would say a remote front end over the internet stream from a backend

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iamlindoro:

ie grab current folder, but don't step backwards

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: I liked the laziness of it for people with things they didn't want to run the grabber for or couldn't but I wasn't actually planning on getting it in there soon.

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kormoc:

android6011: we don't support that configuration

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, Okay, I will just leave it then

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, It doesn't bother me one way or another, just trying to help clean up :)

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: feel free to do whatever, I'll likely have no objections

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android6011:

kormoc: so even if i did port forwarding etc it wouldn't work?

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, okay, thank you, just didn't want to step on any toes

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: Nope, fee free to close tickets, commit stuff, make a decision that MythTV doesn't really even need a MythVideo, etc :)

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, heh, then that just leaves me themes, MythVideo can stay ;)

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: So are we going to see your theme included now?

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** kormoc would hope so **

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, I'm not quite sure what the status on that is-- I know that I made at least one decision on it that made someone unhappy (copious use of negative coordinates) as it exposes issues with our painters

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Anduin:

I only wish people could sell image packs for it

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, I am happy to add it, I just worry about foisting the work of fixing the painters to work properly w/ it onto others

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, image packs?

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: I loved your screen shots but when I used it I found it was too hard to make look as pretty.

[04:38:18]

iamlindoro:

Anduin, ahhh, yeah, Jamu goes a long way towards that

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: My hope being something that can never be done, haven't looked at Jamu

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iamlindoro:

Think kormoc can speak to its usefulness

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iamlindoro:

I haven't used it for MythVideo, but I run it as a cron job and it pulls in all the metadata for the Watch Recording screen for current and upcoming recordings

[04:39:51]

iamlindoro:

so that you can have fancy fanart/banners/etc. in the PBB

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iamlindoro:

that said, I am hoping (if there aren't any major objections) to have the backend do all that work someday

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Anduin:

I'll check it out, I don't want to be the last one clinging to MythCenter

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iamlindoro:

Heh

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Anduin:

We already scale points, wonder why we can't normalize them for the painter

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iamlindoro:

gbee seemed to think that it was a surmountable problem, but I am anxious enough about having commit access that it makes me a bit uncomfortable to knowingly create work for someone

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iamlindoro:

That said, if everyone thinks it'd be best to just add it and work out the kinks, I'm okay with that too

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iamlindoro:

Just don't want to be perceived as the new guy acting like he owns the joint

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echosyp:

ok, so 20 minutes later the front end finally opened, but it was unusable (probably cause my ati card?)

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echosyp:

alright, so the redirect loop is fixed now

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echosyp:

i guess it was that my tuner was not set properly

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mzb:

if my video card is too old for vdpau but I enable it during compilation I shouldn't be any worse off, right?

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mzb:

(NV7600GS)

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mzb:

ie: worst that will happen is that "vdpau" won't work, but xvmc (still) will?

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Dagmar:

Not sure if XvMC works on 7xxx cards

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Dagmar:

It's hit or miss on the 7xxx series, but I *think* the 7600 has support for it

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mzb:

k, thanks ... should find out soon ;)

[06:37:57]

Dagmar:

If you can fill any blanks in afterwards, knock yourself out http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/NVidia_Cards

[06:38:15]

mzb:

4400x2 is screaming through a clean build of trunk

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mzb:

k

[06:38:50]

mzb:

one of the issues I have is that I can't seem to tell what is _actually_ HD

[06:38:57]

xaxes:

http://paste.frubar.net/10962 hey there.. cant watch live tv anymore, and my recordings arent listet using the frontend (but the actual files are in the right directory) any suggestions?

[06:38:59]

Dagmar:

If it's PCIe that's your constraint, the new 8400's will likely be cheaper

[06:39:06]

Dagmar:

...and they'll do VDPAU

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wagnerrp:

not much use for XvMC on the 7000 series cards

[06:39:26]

Dagmar:

...they just won't play 3D video games /quite/ as well as the 7600

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mzb:

due to *cough* circumstances beyond my control I'm using a 51cm PAL TV on s-video

[06:39:45]

Dagmar:

mzb: Oi. Look on the bright side

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Dagmar:

You don't have to even think about deinterlacing

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wagnerrp:

aside from the rare 7600AGP, they were all PCIe cards

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mzb:

there is, however, at least one HD broadcaster that is still doing test loop

[06:40:13]

wagnerrp:

and its a rare PCIe equipped machine that cannot decode broadcast mpeg2 on the processor

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Dagmar:

mzb: nVidia driver handles deinterlacing/interlacing rather magically on it's own when you're using XvMC *IF* you are using composite or s-video out.

[06:40:55]

mzb:

I got this 7600 stupidly cheap on eBay ages ago as I just needed *something* for text console

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mzb:

plan to be moving to LCD asap

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mzb:

uh oh ... vdpau b0rk3d on compile

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mzb:

util-vdpau.cpp:714: error: ‘VDP_VIDEO_MIXER_ATTRIBUTE_SKIP_CHROMA_DEINTERLACE’ was not declared in this scope

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wagnerrp:

oh great... kormoc has made me the source of bugs in mythtv... :P

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Dagmar:

Ooof.

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Dagmar:

I would have thought people would have been doing compile sanity checks before committing

[06:44:43]

Dagmar:

Oh well, it's trunk

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mzb:

hmm

[06:45:14]

Dagmar:

So like, the thing to do now, is ask "Who's using trunk and what's the last rev you compiled?"

[06:45:19]

Dagmar:

I'm not running trunk so I'm no help there.

[06:45:29]

mzb:

so Lenny is too old perhaps? vdpau-dev is 20090128–0.0

[06:45:33]

Dagmar:

This is assuming you need trunk or need vdpau which needs trunk

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mzb:

used to it (to a point)

[06:45:54]

Dagmar:

Is this for the machine with the 7600 card?

[06:45:58]

mzb:

yes

[06:46:10]

** mzb is starting to think he's passed the point ;) **

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Dagmar:

Why do you think you need trunk then?

[06:46:35]

mzb:

going back would be a pita

[06:46:46]

Dagmar:

Going forward seems pointless.

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wagnerrp:

WTF

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Dagmar:

Reverting to -fixes isn't quite the same as going abck

[06:47:11]

wagnerrp:

jttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Between_A_Rock

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Dagmar:

wagnerrp: vdpau doesn't work on 7xxx cards, right?

[06:47:18]

wagnerrp:

correct

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mzb:

ok, I'll just turn off vdpau

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mzb:

:(

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Dagmar:

mzb: Okay then so you're *really* better off with 0.21-fixes then

[06:48:11]

Dagmar:

Unless you've got a tuner that's _only_ supported in trunk, steer clear of it for production use

[06:48:26]

mzb:

I've been enjoying trunk, tbh

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Dagmar:

If you wanna hunt bugs there's still plenty of bugs in -fixes. ;)

[06:48:34]

mzb:

no other reason

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mzb:

but I suspect going back would be a pain for the db

[06:48:57]

mzb:

don't really want to go there again

[06:49:03]

mzb:

(massive amount of data)

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Dagmar:

wagnerrp: I'd say slaughter that account

[06:49:37]

Dagmar:

A username like 'Mdjcccc' sooo reeks of being a spambot warming uop

[06:49:37]

wagnerrp:

yeah, i just marked the page for deletion

[06:50:30]

Dagmar:

Like, thats' definitely the sort of page you'd write about Runescape, but I

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tank-man:

mzb, if youre using svideo, you probably arent playing HD content, so I wouldnt be thinking of vdpau

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Dagmar:

I'll wager someone's looking to see what kind of pagerank the MythTV wiki has

[06:51:19]

wagnerrp:

thats the only edit listed on that account

[06:51:30]

wagnerrp:

almost certainly a brand new account

[06:52:51]

Dagmar:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Mdjcccc

[06:52:57]

Dagmar:

Is a brand-new account.

[06:53:08]

wagnerrp:

well thats the first edit

[06:53:17]

wagnerrp:

but i have no way of knowing when they signed up

[06:53:37]

mzb:

tank-man, it's a mix of SD and HD

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Dagmar:

Dude.

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Dagmar:

Google the name 'Mdjcccc'

[06:54:16]

Dagmar:

Tell me why a human would post that same thing on all those random websites.

[06:54:18]

Dagmar:

It's a bot.

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wagnerrp:

looks like its a chinese bot to boot

[06:55:15]

Dagmar:

Yeah

[06:55:27]

Dagmar:

We were being plagued with them on the dropline site for awhile

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mzb:

uh oh ... getting same compile error without "--enable-vdpau"

[06:55:42]

wagnerrp:

vdpau has been enabled by default for some time

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Dagmar:

mzb: You *did* issue a `make distclean` right?

[06:55:51]

wagnerrp:

going on several months now

[06:55:52]

Dagmar:

Ah

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mzb:

yep ... script cleans it

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mzb:

I'll try again (with a distclean) and --disable-vdpau

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psm321:

and yet, i can't make edits anonymously :( though i guess the spam problem would be even worse then...

[06:57:21]

mzb:

if that doesn't work I'll remove vdpau-dev ... then get desperate and wind the clock back a bit

[07:00:29]

Dagmar:

Ooo

[07:00:47]

Dagmar:

Definitely don't change more than one package at a time when you're working with trunk

[07:01:38]

Dagmar:

It's already tricky enough to figure out compile-time problems without having to look at multiple things at once

[07:02:11]

Dagmar:

There's kinda an implicit "this will not compile" thing to dev branches, so it pays to assume the worst at all times

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mzb:

first time I've had a compile fail iirc

[07:07:15]

Dagmar:

It won't be the last if you compile things regularly.

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mzb:

yeah, guess I've been lucky+lazy ... only update every month or so

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Dagmar:

Hah

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mzb:

build completed with "--disable-vdpau"

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Dagmar:

I just replaced -fixes binaries that were six months old.

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mzb:

rats, db schema 7 versions behind ... are backups automatic on upgrade?

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Dagmar:

Not that I'm aware of.

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Dagmar:

That's sort of the user's responsibility

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mzb:

uhuh

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wagnerrp:

so in Defying Gravity.... they dont explain how they they overcame radio lag

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Dagmar:

Television "magic"

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Dagmar:

Plus they weren't very far out

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Dagmar:

I've seen two episodes, they didn't even leave orbit yet afaik

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wagnerrp:

far enough out that they could see the moons of saturn with the naked eye

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wagnerrp:

unless they had those magic magnifying windows or something

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Dagmar:

Is there a third episode now?

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wagnerrp:

last night

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Dagmar:

Ah okay

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wagnerrp:

well... tonight, i guess

[07:39:48]

wagnerrp:

couple hours ago

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Dagmar:

WTF are they doing with the plot then

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Dagmar:

They were supposed to be headed to Venus

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Dagmar:

I guess that was the thing command didn't want to tell them about

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wagnerrp:

ah, moons of jupiter

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wagnerrp:

not saturn

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wagnerrp:

i dont understand the design of their spaceship

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wagnerrp:

i mean ALL manned interplanetary designs, and even most unmanned ones, are designed off a low thrust high impulse engine

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wagnerrp:

meaning you point the spacecraft in the direction you want thrust

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wagnerrp:

but then they have that big solar shield in front, meaning they always have to be pointed toward the sun

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wagnerrp:

i suppose im not going to be watching the show for the science

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Dagmar:

I should hope not.

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Dagmar:

Because at that level the cards are listening for it

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Dagmar:

wrong channel

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wagnerrp:

i just cant believe they sent people up without telling them why they were going

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wagnerrp:

i mean thats like soviet union style space exploration

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wagnerrp:

screw over the astronauts, we can always conscript more

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Steel__:

Good Morning to all

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styelz:

wagnerrp: what's that tv show called? hope you dont mind me asking

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wagnerrp:

morning...? ... i should be going to bed

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wagnerrp:

styelz: Defying Gravity, ABC Sunday night

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styelz:

thanks

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styelz:

gimme something to watch, while i wait for Breaking Bad series 3

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jblack_:

Maybe weeds.

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jblack_:

I've heard things, but I haven't watch it.

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styelz:

yah i didnt get into that

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styelz:

i meant "that will gimme..."

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styelz:

..Defying Gravity

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styelz:

im hooked on breaking bad

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xaxes:

mhh.. are there known issues with mythtv, that livetv isnt working and all recordings arent listed but actually there?

[08:07:31]

xaxes:

http://paste.frubar.net/10962 dont know whether this are the causing errors

[08:07:33]

styelz:

were they ever there, did you change your hostname or something

[08:07:39]

styelz:

oh

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xaxes:

Cant remember to change anything.. also hadnt update my system

[08:09:21]

xaxes:

tried to watch a dvd using mythtv.. there were errors.. the dvd cant be watched with kaffeine too, but with mplayer .. after this mythtv doesnt work

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styelz:

try restarting your bakend?

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xaxes:

tried it.. no success

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pretender:

can I export channel info to a channels.conf from mythtv

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juski:

nope

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sid3windr:

with some magic mysql query I'm sure you can

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juski:

gbee: this is different! http://imagebin.ca/view/EYGexvzp.html did some trig on the coordinates this time. Still wrong though :)

[09:54:31]

juski:

but they're not all bound together this time so I call that a result

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gbee:

ok, so the rotate is working on the entire screen sized plane rather that just the texture

[10:03:19]

juski:

hang on I'd left a gl rotate in there

[10:03:33]

gbee:

glMatrixMode(GL_TEXTURE);

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gbee:

http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boards/ubbth . . . umber=245954

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juski:

yeah that makes the matrix operated on the texture

[10:04:06]

juski:

I tried that but the image was being clipped to the rect

[10:04:10]

juski:

which isn't what we want

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gbee:

k

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juski:

that ^^ does this: http://imagebin.ca/view/jAsKIy.html

[10:08:44]

juski:

which looks kinda convincing at first glance ;)

[10:10:42]

juski:

the story is – the texture should be transformed onto the quad no matter what, so if you want the whole thing rotated, just rotate the quad

[10:11:34]

juski:

or what a lot of gl people seemingly do is save the matrix, rotate the *world* then draw the shape, then pop the matrix back

[10:12:23]

juski:

which in effect is like if you want to draw a rotated square, spin the paper around & draw the square

[10:13:42]

** juski wonders if there were any rotating showoffs in the original opengl painter demo **

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juski:

you'd think I would've looked there first but I'd totally forgotten about it

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juski:

hmmm make not, since the demo probably used existiing painter code

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gbee:

juski: not that I remember, it just demonstrated stuff that was already implemented in the painter

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juski:

worth a look innit

[10:18:38]

juski:

nah nothing there.

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juski:

just existing stuff

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juski:

I've been wondering if the pushattrib is interfering with the pushmatrix stuff

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juski:

nope not that either. damnit

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juski:

well, nobody can say I've not been trying

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gbee:

only thing I can suggest is that you ask in some opengl forums or pester Chutt until he takes a look

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gbee:

brb, reboot

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juski:

I need breakfast

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juski:

heh I can't even figure out *how* the actual drawing is done. I can see the command queue & all, but..

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juski:

must be the glFlush in End()

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croppa:

I have updated to ubuntu 9.04 and now my mythtv will record but I can not watch live tv.......... I am at a loss to work it out. It has been working for a long time

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juski:

stuff tends to work until folks update unneccessarily

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croppa:

has anyone a sugestion

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croppa:

it is now 0.21.0+fixes19961–0ubuntu8

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croppa:

I was a very long way behind

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croppa:

about ubuntu 7.10

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croppa:

or something like that

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croppa:

it worked to start then a small update and broken

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xaxes:

my mythtv brokes without updating my system :D

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croppa:

I have reinstalled in a fresh install of 9.04 and 9.10 alpha 3 and it behaves the same as 9.04

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croppa:

the old 9.04 that is

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croppa:

I have been using Mythtv for some years

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croppa:

but this seems to be my bigest challenge

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gbee:

croppa: look at the logs

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jduggan:

so if anyone has a g1 and is not already using mythdroid, you should try it out, it's a fine example of a mobile remote :D

[10:59:55]

jduggan:

(using the telnet interface)

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xaxes:

Database error was:

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xaxes:

Table './mythconverg/recorded' is marked as crashed and should be repaired

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xaxes:

how can I repair this?

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gbee:

optimise_db.pl

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gbee:

optimize_mythdb.pl

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xaxes:

thx, gonna google for it

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xaxes:

hah, thx gbee !! it works :)

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xaxes:

see ya

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stuarta:

how do people end up corrupting their tables???

[11:23:49]

jduggan:

box crashes in teh middle of a write

[11:23:52]

jduggan:

or gets shut off

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stuarta:

that's what i expect as a main cause

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stuarta:

what about running out of disk space

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stuarta:

i know innodb will just wait around for space

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gbee:

machine crash, backend crash or running out of space

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stuarta:

backend crash shouldn't corrupt a table

[11:31:03]

gbee:

well no, it shouldn't so maybe ignore that one

[11:33:35]

juski:

gbee: I think I know what the problem is now

[11:35:16]

juski:

it's not an opengl problem but the way we're doing the drawing I think

[11:38:46]

juski:

somehow the whole buttonlist is being rotated with the current code. individual elements within the buttonlist can have their own rotation value set which appears in addition. I'll do a screenshot

[11:39:43]

juski:

http://imagebin.ca/img/Nb-pfy.png

[11:40:34]

juski:

the base button icon image has a <rotate> of 30. the 'play videos' button also has a <rotate> value set. Notice how all the icons are rotated & the 'play videos' icon is rotated again

[11:41:31]

juski:

oops not 30. the base icon 'DEFAULT' is set to rot 45 & the 'play videos' icon is set to '30'

[11:42:07]

juski:

duh. the play videos button isn't being rotated *again*

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stuarta:

rotation1 + rotation2 = big_rotation;

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juski:

I'm gonna try defining the rotation for the icons on an individual basis this time. maybe the inheritance is the cause

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juski:

heh would you look at that

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gbee:

juski: well if we're rotating the entire 'canvas', the plane to which we are drawing which is the full screen, then yes, rotating the plane rather than the texture would look something like the earlier screenshots

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gbee:

the images were all together because they were being drawn in the same positions but on a rotated plane

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gbee:

if instead of rotating all images you just rotated the one image, it would still be off down the screen instead of where it should be

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juski:

that can be fixed with a translatef

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juski:

I've been ignoring that for now

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cocoa117:

guys, anyone know if possible to do livetv with UPnP frontend with mythtv-backend yet?

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wagnerrp:

no

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cocoa117:

:), wagnerrp, that is a real no, is it

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Essobi:

Good Morning.

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juski:

you try & make it work, then see :)

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juski:

doo de dooo..

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jduggan:

you got it working? :P

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juski:

have I shite

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jduggan:

:)

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iamlindoro:

Sheesh, way to kick a fella while he's down

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juski:

I want my life back!

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jduggan:

;D

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quicksilver:

your IRC client has a lifeback command. Sometimes it's called /quit ;)

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juski:

I might just reboot into windows & never go back into linux

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juski:

that'd do it

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jduggan:

you'll soon come running

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jduggan:

:)

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juski:

I know, this thing has made me lose sleep

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juski:

http://imagebin.ca/img/0zinVa.png

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juski:

still not there yet

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juski:

close, no cigar

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iamlindoro:

ah, you solved the buttonlist issue

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iamlindoro:

what was the key?

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juski:

I have, but it's not evident in that screenshot

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iamlindoro:

and what's outstanding?

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stuarta:

looks like the icon's about to fall off :-p

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juski:

permission to swear profusely

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iamlindoro:

juski, Guess it's that it rotates from the origin instead of the center?

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juski:

http://imagebin.ca/img/wAE6gmY.png

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iamlindoro:

zoinks

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juski:

****ing tw**ing bastard c***ing thing!

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** stuarta chuckles **

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Timrit:

iamlindoro: thanks for your response. i ran that on the backend and it said all was ok(mysqlcheck -u mythtv -p mythconverg). it still fails. i was wondering where mythtv looks for the mysql.txt file. i tried it this morning and it says something about not able to connect to database and then something about kicking the db.

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juski:

gbee: that, my friend, is with the DEFAULT icontype given a <rotate> of 30

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Timrit:

iamlindoro: sorry for the slow response.

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iamlindoro:

Timrit, your mysql.txt/config.xml files are fine, or you'd never get as far as you are

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juski:

there's still a small matter of doing a transform to re-center the rotated quad

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juski:

that might need the trig

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iamlindoro:

Timrit, There's really little/nothing it could be besides database corruption issues-- the tables themselves may be intact, but the data sure ain't

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iamlindoro:

I'd wager someone (or a script they run) has been mucking around in the DB

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juski:

the rotated icon needs to move right by the difference between top & bottom x coords

[13:58:19]

juski:

or maybe just the square root of the sums of the (sides squared)

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juski:

bloody hell, I'm drained

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juski:

you know what I ended up doing?

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iamlindoro:

?

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stuarta:

saying quack too many times?

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juski:

http://pastebin.ca/1523912

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juski:

instead of doing the code commented out, I translate the matrix before drawing then start from the origin

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juski:

it was a long shot

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stuarta:

we'll make a programmer out of you yet :)

[14:02:09]

juski:

but by jove it worked!

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yfwork:

Anyone recommend a good DVB-C card?

[14:02:47]

juski:

I'd love somebody to explain how that's different in real terms to what was being done before

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juski:

anyway, I'm past caring now. I'll work out a new translate for rotated items in a bit

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sid3windr:

wtf is a +vVA !

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iamlindoro:

The sound you make when you french kiss an electrical socket

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yfwork:

iamlindoro: congrats on commit access!

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yfwork:

Did sphery get it too?

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laga_:

iamlindoro: oh, nice

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iamlindoro:

yfwork, thanks, and yes

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sid3windr:

iamlindoro: oh, nice, I'll go and try that out right now

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yfwork:

nice

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juski:

iamlindoro: soo you'll stop moaning about the inner sanctum now? lol

[14:05:27]

iamlindoro:

yfwork, So last night it was kormoc answering for me-- I am able to get umlauted files to work fine w/ SGs in Mythvideo

[14:05:35]

iamlindoro:

yfwork, makes me wonder whether it might be filesystem issues

[14:05:56]

juski:

I better save a diff of this, upload it to 2 places. I'll go quite insane if I lose it

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iamlindoro:

juski, Not until my goat mask and cloak arrive in the mail ;)

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** sid3windr lends iamlindoro his robe and wizard hat **

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yfwork:

hmm. I remember mentioning here a few days ago that the file scanner was broken. That was what I meant. It could be the ways the files are stored but hey are read from NFS off a NAS box

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juski:

oh man, this is gonna be a kick up the arse for theming :D

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** iamlindoro wonders why we can't all be pirates instead **

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** stuarta runs around waving a sword and shouting argh!!!! **

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juski:

http://imagebin.ca/view/Kmj5r8u.html – no still haven't done the other glTranslatef yet..

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juski:

and then there's the qt painter to deal with.. and viddypow painter. ARGHHH

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sid3windr:

your mythtv is falling apart, juski

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sid3windr:

:)

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iamlindoro:

Looks like the shutters on my house

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sid3windr:

hey, and that's followed by weather, then regional news, then weather. must have very jittery weather there, too

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yfwork:

ls -bl looks ok

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iamlindoro:

yfwork, Can you possibly try a file directly on the filesystem being scanned?

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juski:

effknows how I'm gonna do anything with the VDPAU painter. AFAIK I've already broken building it

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iamlindoro:

yfwork, ie touch "umlautumlautcedille.avi"

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juski:

somebody's gonna have to donate a new box with VDPAU compatible hardware :D

[14:11:32]

iamlindoro:

yfwork, By which I mean eliminate the network mount if possible by adding a second SG dir that is a real physical mount on that box, and touching a file with special characters

[14:11:55]

yfwork:

iamlindoro : Will need to set up ssh on a Thescus box. Will try later for sure

[14:12:05]

iamlindoro:

yfwork, no rush, just curiosity on my part

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juski:

all I need now is for Chutt to say nah, we can't be doing with the translate then drawing from the origin

[14:12:27]

iamlindoro:

yfwork, and may make something jump out at me

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yfwork:

iamlindoro : Well the stroage group is using a local nfs mount.

[14:12:53]

juski:

anyhoo, http://pastebin.ca/1523924 is where I'm at

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yfwork:

And the OS sees the file fine with no strange chars

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iamlindoro:

yfwork, I understand, just asking you to indulge me if you don't mind it :)

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yfwork:

The scanner logs show the files being dropped and they appear fine!

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iamlindoro:

yfwork, It's just the first thing that comes to mind as it works great here using at least umlauts

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yfwork:

iamlindoro : Of course! I am curious too

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GreyFoxx:

Is it failing to go into the DB or just wont work via SG streaming ?

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iamlindoro:

The bug report suggests the former

[14:19:24]

iamlindoro:

but they go in and stay in for me here

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iamlindoro:

(and play)

[14:19:50]

iamlindoro:

#6265

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iamlindoro:

Adding : : Revierkämpfe.avi

[14:22:06]

iamlindoro:

That's a symlink to another file on the SG, and it plays fine too

[14:22:23]

iamlindoro:

Which makes me wonder about filesystem or environment issues

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GreyFoxx:

just gonna try it here as wellk using all 3 characters that jochen say wont work in the same name

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GreyFoxx:

works fine for me

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iamlindoro:

Yeah, has to be one of those two things-- suspect it will be easy to get to the bottom of with a little help from yfwork

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yfwork:

Grey/Iam: Can you do an ls -lb of the file ?

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GreyFoxx:

root@bork:/data/video2/z-m# ls -lb testingäöümoo.avi

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GreyFoxx:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 244908650 2009-08–10 11:22 testingäöümoo.avi

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iamlindoro:

lrwxrwxrwx 1 robert robert 13 2009-08–10 07:21 Revierkämpfe.avi -> Australia.m2ts

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GreyFoxx:

my paste of it looks different here in than it does in the original xterm

[14:25:38]

GreyFoxx:

some locale setting that is different between my myth boxes and phaze.org where I am IRCing from

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yfwork:

These local file using storage group?

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iamlindoro:

yep

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GreyFoxx:

yfwork: That was a remote SG for me as well

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yfwork:

Wonder if NFS is an issue.

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** yfwork loves blaming NFS **

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GreyFoxx:

I also tried it via nfs and it made it into the db as well

[14:26:35]

GreyFoxx:

though I haven't tried to play the nfs one

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iamlindoro:

That said, not working on NFS is a pretty brutal shortcoming, we should be able to fidn a fix

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iamlindoro:

Ah

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iamlindoro:

so sounds like environment/charset

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GreyFoxx:

I think it is environmental

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GreyFoxx:

ok, both SG and nfs playback of that file work for me

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yfwork:

What locale you guys using?

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yfwork:

damn slow connection to home

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GreyFoxx:

yfwork: I honestly didn't set any so Im using whatever my distro set

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GreyFoxx:

LANG=en_US

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GreyFoxx:

LC_COLLATE=C

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iamlindoro:

en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8

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yfwork:

LANG=en_IE.UTF-8

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yfwork:

This is crazy slow. I will try when I get home. Will add a few VERBOSE statements to scanner to see what it sees.

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GreyFoxx:

yfwork: The backend log should be interesting since it logs an entry for all files and directories found during a scan

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GreyFoxx:

regardless of what the FE does with it

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yfwork:

GreyFoxx: Any word I can search for in logs?

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GreyFoxx:

run the be with -v file

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GreyFoxx:

you will see stuff like 2009-08–10 11:28:14.701 SG(Videos): GetFileList: (file::testingäöümoo.avi)

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GreyFoxx:

during a scan

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GreyFoxx:

that's the "raw" directory listing on the backend side

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yfwork:

ok – thanks.

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iamlindoro:

gnome42: Heh, this is like "Physician, heal thyself," right? ;)

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GreyFoxx:

heh

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gnome42:

yep

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iamlindoro:

heh

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iamlindoro:

I should note that I'm not technically supposed to commit anything in that area :)

[15:09:36]

iamlindoro:

Ihttp://photo.gangus.com/d/26788-2/ackbar.jpg

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iamlindoro:

er

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iamlindoro:

http://greggoire.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/ . . . kbar2jl1.jpg

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iamlindoro:

There we are

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gbee:

juski: that screenshot has me worried, the guide is supposed to fit nicely within the frame, no gaps

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Can you think of any examples anywhere in the code where we do invalidate a single node in a MythGenericTree and refresh it on the fly? Would like to solve the delete issue, and maybe the scanning issue too

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iamlindoro:

s/we do/we/

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iamlindoro:

Ah-hah, think I found what I'm looking for :)

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gbee:

iamlindoro: should be sufficient to node->SetVisible(false); followed by a refresh

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Was just looking at that, thanks :)

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gbee:

sometime I'll add a delete node option

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gbee:

which won't even require the refresh

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gbee:

since we'd just remove the listitem

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gbee:

might just do that instead, give me a couple of minutes

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yfwork:

iamlindoro,greyfoxx: Mamaged to get ssh access to NAS box. Might be a char issue alright.

[15:48:43]

yfwork:

ls -b not suported on it but trying to tab complete filename showed :

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yfwork:

root@127.0.0.1:/raid/data/media/Videos/TVSeries/Lost/Season 3# ls 3x14\ -\ Expos\303\251.avi

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yfwork:

3x14 – ExposÃ©.avi*

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Ah, that'd be cool

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iamlindoro:

yfwork: hmm, yeah, looks like

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yfwork:

Wonder where the issue lies. Maybe qt?

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juski:

gbee: http://imagebin.ca/img/1VQqRVS.png

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juski:

gbee: that's the same code but without any rotated icons

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juski:

oh damn you said *guide*. duh

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laga_:

sorry, but the menu bar looks awesome

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iamlindoro:

You could slide down it, wheeeeeee!

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laga_:

that would be neat-o

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juski:

I guess this code is still broken

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iamlindoro:

Looking an awful lot closer to being unbroken, though

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juski:

everything else seems to line up but the guide grid entities. hmmm

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juski:

gbee: I take it the program grid should hit the bottom of the box and extend fully right

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echosyp:

there isn't a free channel listing service anymore is there? i just have cable so the EIT guide wont work for me will it?

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iamlindoro:

Since you're in the US, odds are no, it won't. But Schedules Direct is $20 for the whole year and is well, well worth it

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echosyp:

cool

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juski:

gbee: scaling code must be broken

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juski:

at full size it looks fine

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Shadow__X:

20 bucks for reliable listings is great

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Shadow__X:

plus if 20 bucks is hurting the bank than maybe mythtv isnt for you

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juski:

gbee: http://imagebin.ca/img/eldzvXn.png

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juski:

I still can't sort out the translation for the rotated images

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juski:

but, what there is so far looks pretty smooth. not seeing the jaggies I was getting the other day

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juski:

and hark.. is that a GAP I see in the menu's frame? heh

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gbee:

now it's too wide :p

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gbee:

gap wasn't there when I tested, so I'm thinking the dreaded rounding bug :/

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juski:

the gap in the menu surround I referred to is where the rightmost line meets the bottom line

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juski:

looks to be about a pixel or 2 high

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gbee:

juski: I must be looking in the wrong place

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tmkt:

is there a way when a program/movie records that instead of getting a thumbnail generated by mythtv it diplays the movie poster?

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gbee:

btw scaling code is known to have problems with rounding, it's exaggerated in lists because they are made up of several smaller pieces, each of those ends up 1 pixel smaller because we round down and by the time you get to the end of a list it's 5, 10, 15 pixels short of where it should end

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gbee:

tmkt: no

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tmkt:

k

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iamlindoro:

Though in .22 you can use a particular external script as a cron job and a theme that uses coverart and get what you want

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iamlindoro:

that is, in the forthcoming .22

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iamlindoro:

Namely, Graphite + Jamu.py -MV

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tmkt:

ah

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yfwork:

greyfoxx : from log file :

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yfwork:

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yfwork:

It does appear in media list now but the title looks messed up. ExposA and then a copyright sign. The last A has a squiggle on it too.

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iamlindoro:

yfwork: What distro do you use again?

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yfwork:

ubuntu jaunty

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iamlindoro:

hrm, so it's not the ol' Gentoo DB bug

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yfwork:

The reason I had my own scanner/metadata script was because of this. In perl I just encoded/decoded UTF8 and it seemed to work nicely

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yfwork:

is ScanVideoDirectory the relevant function to stick some debug in?

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yfwork:

I enabled the debug line on line 172 of dirscan.cpp and it shows up fine there. I will look into DB insertion next

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yfwork:

iamlindoro,greyfoxx : very odd behaviour here. I deleted the entry from videometadata and scanned again. It did not add it to the DB (It did before). It did however call verifyFiles on it though.

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yfwork:

Every second scan adds it back..

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gbee:

it's an encoding problem, somewhere we're comparing the UTF8 from the database to an ascii string

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gbee:

or unicode to utf8 etc

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kormoc:

is the locale of all the machines in this setup the same/utf-8?

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gbee:

shouldn't make a difference if we are correctly converting the string from the local encoding

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yfwork:

kormoc : I don't know about the NFS NAS box but it is a combined/frontend backend

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yfwork:

gbee: I thought that too but don't know why iamlindoro and greyfoxx work fine

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yfwork:

wonder are our DBs the same.

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yfwork:

ah for $deity sake!! It is appearing fine now..

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gbee:

yfwork: could be that the encoding being reported for your system is wrong, or more likely that the character they are creating are using a different encoding (say their locale default)

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yfwork:

Yeah – I do not create the files on this machine. I rip the DVDs on a vista box and transfer to NAS box over NFS.

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gbee:

yfwork: if it breaks again, can you try renaming the files, same name just re-type (no copy/paste), if it's the case that the original files contained illegal (not to spec) characters that should fix it

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yfwork:

Will do.

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gbee:

QT4 in particular no longer respects broken encodings

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Dagmar:

F**k quicktime

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Dagmar:

I'm sick of f**king Apple's updater continually trying to get me to install f**king iTunes

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yfwork:

gbee: When I do a scan for changes in the actual plugin is that the same as going via setup->media manager etc?

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wagnerrp:

Dagmar: i liked when it auto-installed safari on my parent's compyter

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meshe:

wagnerrp: i hated that, i ended up with safari on my laptop and have no use for it

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Dagmar:

Wow I've never seen it do that before

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gbee:

yfwork: yes, same code

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Dagmar:

Now i'm kinda glad I finally sent them an email saying (no joke) "F**k you and perpetually trying to make me install iTunes to update Quicktime. I'm uninstalling your crap."

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wagnerrp:

Dagmar: yeah, there was a big stink 6–8 months ago when they did that

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wagnerrp:

in other news, pet cat accused by owner of downloading child porn

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Dagmar:

Onion?

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kormoc:

sadly, not

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kormoc:

http://www.39online.com/news/nationworld/sns- . . . 610160.story

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wagnerrp:

apparently the cat downloaded over 1000 images

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meshe:

lol

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Dagmar:

I suppsoe he's prepared to explain how the cat sorted it into categories before a judge

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yfwork:

I have a theory. Pre QT4 this worked and any my db had the broken encoding. Now when I deleted the entry from DB and rescanned it works ok.

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Dagmar:

Oh no. This guy is screwed

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yfwork:

Will try to confirm

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Dagmar:

Jensen Beach is home to a rather aggressive anti-child-porn unit who have their s**t together.

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kormoc:

I think he was screwed when he had to claim his cat did it

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Dagmar:

What freaks me out is about five months ago they arrested 40 people in their county alone

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Dagmar:

That's a sign something's in the water that's makin' people want to look at nekkid little girls or something

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Dagmar:

I couldn't believe it was forty people just in that one county

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kormoc:

http://www.t-g.com/blogs/1353/entry/29207/

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kormoc:

that first comment on that post is... uhh...

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yfwork:

yum – Might be worth asking that guy who opened the ticket to delete the relevant files from the DB and retry

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gbee:

Dagmar: 40 that got caught

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yfwork:

s/yum/yup

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Dagmar:

Yeah. These guys aren't busting people for accidentally hitting a kiddie porn website and taking a few minutes to realize it

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kormoc:

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2009/08/ . . . -photos.html

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kormoc:

the guy looks creepy

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Dagmar:

If they busted this guy, he was browsing child porn for more than just the time it takes a cat to sit on a keyboard

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aarcane:

hallo, odd question.

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aarcane:

is there a program for mythtv that will let me control the interface, browse videos, etc. over the network, instead of needing a remote or keyboard attached to the system? (the laptops I'd want to control from is running windows)

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wagnerrp:

can that really be considered a fetish?

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meshe:

aarcane: check out synergy

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gbee:

aarcane: yes, there is a telnet control interface which could be used directly from windows, or you can use it through mythweb

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wagnerrp:

aarcane: there is even a python wrapper for the telnet interface floating around

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meshe:

aarcane: http://synergy2.sourceforge.net/

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wagnerrp:

that directly translates keypresses to the remote computer

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wagnerrp:

just run the script, and type in the terminal as you would on the remote computer

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wagnerrp:

mythtv only of course

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meshe:

synergy will let you have full keyboard and mouse control over the system from any os on the network

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wagnerrp:

with synergy, the other computer is added like an extra X screen

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Shadow__X:

what table does the commercial information get stored

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wagnerrp:

mouse and focus can move back and forth between the two screens/computers

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wagnerrp:

but applications are stuck where they are

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meshe:

wagnerrp: yeah, works good for problems like this

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wagnerrp:

i dont have a clue where i got this script

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wagnerrp:

someone posted it in here some number of months ago

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Shadow__X:

theres quicksynergy too

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wagnerrp:

sadly... the google scan of beirdo is rather lacking

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iamlindoro:

There's a MythUI popup type that you can use for two button popups, isn't there?

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iamlindoro:

ie okay/cancel, do "A"/do "B"

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iamlindoro:

etc.

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gbee:

MythConfirmationDialog

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gbee:

http://miffteevee.co.uk/documentation/develop . . . nDialog.html

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iamlindoro:

thanks

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iamlindoro:

Sorry to be asking so many questions

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gbee:

it's really only an "ok/cancel", options can't be customised (well they can by the themer, but it's a one definition used everywhere type deal)

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iamlindoro:

Ah, okay, then that's not what I want

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iamlindoro:

Want to be able to hardcode two translatable strings as two buttons... I guess rather like the Myth exit dialog

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gbee:

either write a new screen, or you have the menu popup, reluctant to add another screen to the global selection since it's a slippery slope back to where we were in the old code, you had one button, two button, three button popups, small menus/large menus, ok popup, ok/cancel popup

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iamlindoro:

Yeah, I understand, should be able to handle it without anything new

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fbnts:

Hi, I have a backend running a several frontends. One of the frontends in particular comes up with 'Could not connect to the master backend server — is it running?' it then hangs (non of the remote buttons will effectively press the OK button

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fbnts:

I have t restart mythtv frontend for it to work

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fbnts:

is there a way to get mythtv to automatically retry the connection?

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jams:

it does retry, you might want to increase the lenght between retry

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jams:

I think it's inthe general settings

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high-rez:

Any of you built frontends based on the ION platform? Curious about experiences with regards to performance..

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fbnts:

ah thanks jams found the wakeup section which was not enabled

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sid3windr:

yeah for me it crashes sometimes too when it can't connect

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sid3windr:

or rather hangs or loops or whatever

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iamlindoro:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2482/3806755134_65d2dd9ee5.jpg

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iamlindoro:

AHH MY EYES

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gbee:

NSFW !

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iamlindoro:

Windows video editing is NSFW? :)

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juski:

not safe for windows, yeah

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juski:

back to the grind, here we go

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iamlindoro:

yfwork: Can you report your findings re: special character files back to the ticket please?

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gizmobay:

Anyone using trunk?

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wagnerrp:

yes

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gizmobay:

you have any problems with corrupt recordings?

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gizmobay:

vdpau

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wagnerrp:

vdpau always has problems with corrupt recordings

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gizmobay:

oh

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wagnerrp:

thats the problem with using a hardware decoder

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wagnerrp:

its a lot easier to handle errors in software than hardware

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gizmobay:

I'm using it with Avenards repo and I haven't had an issue

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gizmobay:

0.21-fixes

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wagnerrp:

so then why did you ask about trunk?

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gizmobay:

because I removed Avenard's and enabled weekly builds and gave it a whirl

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gizmobay:

looks very nice

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gizmobay:

had to back out because of WAF

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wagnerrp:

vdpau will always have problems if you have a bitstream with errors

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wagnerrp:

regardless of what program you are using for playback

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gizmobay:

this was analog tv

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gizmobay:

cable

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wagnerrp:

well if your mpeg encoder is causing errors, theres something wrong with it

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gizmobay:

it worked without a hitch in Avenard just ran into probs with trunk

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juski:

next he'll say it's not an mpeg encoding card

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gizmobay:

pvr 150

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gizmobay:

so mpeg encoding card

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juski:

you even *need* VDPAU to decode SDTV mpeg2?

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Dagmar:

I should hope not

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wagnerrp:

well thats the problem with mythtv and vdpau

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wagnerrp:

its all or nothing

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wagnerrp:

...actually, you could change the decoder based off resolution

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gizmobay:

no probably not. Could set it up to use ffmpeg for low res

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gizmobay:

I figure I'd get corrupt recordings on my other OTA DVB card though

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gizmobay:

I need to use VDPAU for that or the guide bcomes very slow

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gbee:

?

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gizmobay:

??

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iamlindoro:

???

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gizmobay:

????

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juski:

?????

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juski:

yeah sod this, I'm gonna cheat & mangle the positions of rotated images so I don't have to do it in the painter

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juski:

do it in mythuiimage or something

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juski:

it's only to make themers' lives easier

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juski:

somebody with MOARGL-fu than I could maybe clean it up

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** iamlindoro is particularly happy about his latest tiny commit **

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juski:

nah, not gonna do it. the whole point of doing everythiing in the painter is speed

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Shadow__X:

iamlindoro: even though its tiny i am sure its useful

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Shadow__X:

:)

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iamlindoro:

It makes me happy to clear out as much mplayer nonsense as possible

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juski:

:)

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juski:

til I get help with this I might pick something else on my todo list – something which isn't so much of an albatross

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gbee:

I'll have to grep for the places where mplayer is still used, I know mythgallery uses it to get screengrabs for videos

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gbee:

which can now be fixed

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sgtpepper1:

is anyone using DVB-S cards with FTA?

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sgtpepper1:

specifically, I'm thinking of pointing to amazonas

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gbee:

well new streetlights are going to save a fortune on the electricity bill, if I want to light up the front rooms I just need to open the curtains ...

[20:52:27]

kormoc:

but will eat up the savings in sleeping pills?

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gbee:

heh, probably :)

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Shadow__X:

dell is pissing me off

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Shadow__X:

i want my license refund

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Shadow__X:

and me installing linux onto my laptop doesnt void the warranty

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Shadow__X:

if it does i dont "own" my laptop

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iamlindoro:

So do we have any interest in using these tango weather icons? I must admit I like them more than the classic ones, and some research indicates they are public domain

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iamlindoro:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/6787/new.jpg

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iamlindoro:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/attachment/ticket/6787/old.jpg

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meshe:

definately nicer

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Shadow__X:

its nicer

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gbee:

nothing against the old ones, but something new gives mythweather a fresher feel

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iamlindoro:

k, will try them out when I get home and if they check out I'll commit later

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gbee:

new ones are the end product of someone playing with an svg app by the look

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Your preference is still for the new ones, no?

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meshe:

iamlindoro: you have a +

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iamlindoro:

meshe: hm?

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meshe:

on your nick

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kormoc:

yeah, he's a dev now :)

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iamlindoro:

god help us

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meshe:

nice, congrats

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kormoc:

as is sphery :)

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iamlindoro:

thx

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meshe:

congrats to sphery too :)

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linxeh:

its too bad the BBC weather icons aren't free to use

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linxeh:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/bbcweather/features/symbols.shtml

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iamlindoro:

A little too basic for my taste (at least, for mythweather)

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Shadow__X:

oh noes

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Shadow__X:

i think dell hates me

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linxeh:

the current mythtv ones look a bit cluttered to me :) each to their own I guess

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iamlindoro:

Good thing you can theme them yourself, then ;)

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juski:

linxeh: sounds like to need to do your own theme

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linxeh:

juski: sure, but the BBC ones aren't free (even though they should be)

[21:10:02]

juski:

like it'd be hard to draw icons like those

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linxeh:

that said, there is this http://www.mikeafford.com/tv-graphics/project . . . symbols.html

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gbee:

iamlindoro: yeah, so long as the license is good

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linxeh:

not exactly free though I guess

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Yeah, was CC, current release is public domain w/ no restrictions

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gbee:

prefer it if we could create something just for myth since any images in the public domain tend to pop up all over the place

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Shadow__X:

linxeh: he has a set you could use to the right free to download

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gbee:

but that's not an objection

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Shadow__X:

oh never mind

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linxeh:

Shadow__X: free?

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iamlindoro:

Heh, you can pay for what you want, or you can do it yourself from scratch

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iamlindoro:

But expecting to get whatever you want for free is generally a losing proposition

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Dagmar:

Knuckle sandwiches are pretty free.

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GreyFoxx:

hrm

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gbee:

not if you factor in the emergency dental treatment

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GreyFoxx:

so, naming a file x.files.s01e01.mkv or x-files.s01e01.mkv causes a ttvdb search for "x files" which doesn't match anything

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juski:

ffs yet another single record I've lined up is down as 'not listed'

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juski:

ah. til the scheduler updates. :)

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GreyFoxx:

but if I name them xfiles it searches for xfiles which also doesn't match

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx: presumably x-files works?

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GreyFoxx:

yeah

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Shadow__X:

hey iamlindoro you bought alot of dells correct

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iamlindoro:

You can manually bond a string to a TVDB number if that helps you

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx: in the conf file

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GreyFoxx:

oh?

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iamlindoro:

yeah

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iamlindoro:

it's in the scripts/tvdb dir now IIRC

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GreyFoxx:

didn't know it had one :)

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iamlindoro:

Shadow__X: yep

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx: RDV_Linux knows better, I've not needed to use it

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx: and TBH for your problem I'd likely just do a replace in SQL

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Shadow__X:

and where you told you couldnt return the windows license and i you installed your own os you voided the warranty

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iamlindoro:

Shadow__X: No, but I buy through their business channel rather than home

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iamlindoro:

Though that sounds preposterous

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Dagmar:

No it doesn't.

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Dagmar:

The Home sales people are the low-hanging fruit there.

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Dagmar:

None of them have been working for longer than six months, and none of them will be working there in six months.

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Dagmar:

At least if you go through business sales you'll get a newbie with slightly more training

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx: Anyway, from looking at the conf file, looks like adding a line like "x files:77398" in the ttvdb-example.conf file ought to do it

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iamlindoro:

GreyFoxx: though you'll probably have to change the command line to point at that conf file

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RDV_Linux:

GreyFoxx: The ttvdb.py conf file is for those rare occasions when you must override what ttvdb can parse from what it is given. For the most part it is used when SD gives series names which just will not match what is on ttvdb. Also when the SD names has a duplicate such as the recent "Castle" is really "Castle (2009)" in thetvdb.

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iamlindoro:

ie -c /path/to/the/ttvdb-example.conf

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iamlindoro:

In this case I'd just do a SQL replace

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iamlindoro:

and then blast through with the W key

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linxeh:

how practical is an antec fusion case for a combined backend/frontend system ?

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iamlindoro:

Works fine

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Shadow__X:

eh so call their business line i made the purchase through my schools channel

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Dagmar:

IT probably won't catchfire

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Shadow__X:

so higher education

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Shadow__X:

so which business lard business?

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** iamlindoro blinks confusedly **

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iamlindoro:

No, not the lard business

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Shadow__X:

iamlindoro: sorry

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Shadow__X:

ontop of personal things that have been going on i cant stand people with a horrid accent tell me about us laws

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Shadow__X:

large business

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Shadow__X:

especially when they tell me they havnt read the eula

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kormoc:

but horrid spelling is a-ok?

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Shadow__X:

no

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Shadow__X:

its not

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laga_:

rotfl

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Shadow__X:

eh

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linxeh:

heh

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** Shadow__X waves at kormoc **

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Shadow__X:

hello there

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jduggan:

In an interview with Digital Spy, Freesat trade marketing manager James Atkins said that the free-to-air satellite platform would hope to carry a similar distinct ITV1 HD channel as is destined for Freeview.

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jduggan:

woo, this means no crappy MHEG implementation?

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gbee:

crappy MHEG implementation was just done as a "f**k you" to Sky

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jduggan:

yea

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jduggan:

i saw some forum post a few months ago, sayin that since the sky HD epg/firmware upgrade, the box was able to play itv hd

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jduggan:

dunno if thats true

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JEDIDIAH__:

an antec fusion is pretty big but still more or less in the A/V device footprint while still having a decent amount of room.

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JEDIDIAH__:

The antec overture just barely fits into an A/V cabinet if you leave off the doors and the back (cardboard) panel.

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gbee:

jduggan: it's true but still means Sky customers manually adding the audio/vid pids etc in a settings screen somewhere

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jduggan:

gbee: ah

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high-rez:

medidiah: I'm doing the zotac ionitx mobo inside a really tiny case. Those antec cases are waaay overpriced and too big.

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** JEDIDIAH__ has an antec overture sitting in an A/V cabinet with the front and back not put on. **

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jduggan:

zotac ionitx are overpriced also :)

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** jduggan will wait **

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JEDIDIAH__:

my overture has 5 HDs and a DVD drive.

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JEDIDIAH__:

a fusion doesn't have that much room but it certainly has more than an ITX setup.

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Shadow__X:

heh so after i asked someone to read the eula they where like oh

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Shadow__X:

hmm you where right

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brad2:

evening guys

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kormoc:

I seriously question Shadow__X's sanity

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brad2:

for any particular reason? :)

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Shadow__X:

does that mean i fit in :)

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kormoc:

he complains in here about Dell, then apologizes for it in #mythtv and then calls me his hero when I point out that it was the wrong channel

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iamlindoro:

dustybinitis

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Shadow__X:

fine i will hush for now guys

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Shadow__X:

i dont want to turn into that guy

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Shadow__X:

on an unrelated note i had itouch streaming from the user script then i forgot to backup my work and upgraded mythtv without thinking and lost my work

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wagnerrp:

kormoc: you mind if i continue using that ticket for future updates? or should i start a new one?

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kormoc:

wagnerrp, Start a new one if you don't mind

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wagnerrp:

will do

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Shadow__X:

iamlindoro: am i really getting that bad

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T3Kn0:

how do i change the default output on mythbuntu back to VGA

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T3Kn0:

instead of S-Vid

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** kormoc points wagnerrp at his PM **

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Shadow__X:

T3Kn0: first this is the wrong channel also if you have an nvidia card you can check nvidia-settings for that option

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T3Kn0:

its not in there

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T3Kn0:

theres no option to switch from TV

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iamlindoro:

T3Kn0, #ubuntu-mythtv

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