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Monday, July 6th, 2009, 00:02 UTC

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Hilikus:

sometimes my mythtv recordings sound really noisy. it happens in scheduled recording or livetv and seemingly at random. if its live tv you can just change channels and go back to the same channel and its fixed

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Hilikus:

it sounds like when you encode audio in really really low bitrate

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Hilikus:

but it's really hard to reproduce so i don't know how to test it. does anyone know what i'm talking about?

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wagnerrp:

well this is disappointing... the bitrate during my recorded shows is LOWER than that of the ads

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wagnerrp:

on an hour long, 6GB show

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wagnerrp:

i clipped out 18min of commercials to get a 3.9GB file

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phunyguy:

Free Space: 133.37 GB

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phunyguy:

my free space is leet

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wagnerrp:

wouldnt that be leeet?

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phunyguy:

true

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SHADOW_V1:

wagnerrp, that sucks smack the broadcaster

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phunyguy:

:)

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SHADOW_V1:

this find it you keep it commercials are killing me

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SHADOW_V1:

find a 17inch desktop replacement laptop for under 1k and you keep it

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SHADOW_V1:

the point of a desktop replacement is to be powerful and contain a great screen

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SHADOW_V1:

thats not going to happen for under 1k

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wagnerrp:

well to the unwashed masses, a 'great screen' is one thats 17", glossy, and low enough resolution that it can be read at 15 paces

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wagnerrp:

i dare say that the screen that came with my laptop was at least a $1K option

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SHADOW_V1:

wow mine was maybe 300 or 400 does yours do special stuff

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SHADOW_V1:

eh stupid masses

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clever:

wtf, 2 core dumps in a row...

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wagnerrp:

not particularly, besides it being over 8 years old

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SHADOW_V1:

well that could be a clue as to why it was 1k extra right

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clever:

ive got a recording from 10:30pm to 11:00 pm

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wagnerrp:

15" UXGA when SVGA was still common

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clever:

and another from 10:36 to 11:00

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SHADOW_V1:

wagnerrp, yeah that upgrade sounds like it would do it

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clever:

segfault is within qt-sql

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SHADOW_V1:

my mythtv windows fe segfaults if it makes you feel any better

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clever:

#0 0x42b9af0b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4

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clever:

#1 0x42b9b115 in QSqlQuery::QSqlQuery () from /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4

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clever:

#3 0xb7553dc8 in ProgramInfo::MarkAsInUse (this=0xabce9938, inuse=true, usedFor=@0xb4dbd1c4) at programinfo.cpp:3954

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SHADOW_V1:

anyone here use an im client that translates links of images into the respective image

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Dagmar:

=0=

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Dagmar:

THat would be why that doesn't happen

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SHADOW_V1:

=0=?

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Dagmar:

Yes. ASCII goatse

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Dagmar:

If you don't get it don't google it

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SHADOW_V1:

yeah

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SHADOW_V1:

are there reasons other than that

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Dagmar:

Generally that's the big one that makes coders go "Oh... Umm... Let's skip that then"

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Dagmar:

FOr most uses, just having the widget that displays the text being able to handle hotlinks is enough

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beta_:

Is there any sort of tweaks I can do to improve the quality of my video from my STB over firewire?

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wagnerrp:

what could you possibly do that would have any effect on that?

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beta_:

Like can I use plugctl to set the data_rate higher?

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wagnerrp:

its not like the STB encodes the video

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wagnerrp:

the STB captures the broadcast, and copies it directly over to firewire

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beta_:

So any loss in quality is due to the computer rendering?

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wagnerrp:

the only processing it may be doing is some decryption

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wagnerrp:

the only loss in quality would be recompression on the headend equipment

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beta_:

I don't have ADS on my analog channels so the STB has to be encoding it does it not?

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wagnerrp:

you should not be able to capture your analog channels over firewire

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beta_:

I can, but their pixelated

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beta_:

where the recording of a digital channel I did was almost the same

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wagnerrp:

its more likely that your cableco has a separate digital stream for all of their analog channels

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wagnerrp:

and thats what the STB is tuning

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beta_:

hum...

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SHADOW_V:

hey beta_ ya know you did say it worked under osx right

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SHADOW_V:

there is a myth build for osx

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beta_:

SHADOW_V: Got it working on my PC :)

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SHADOW_V:

on linus?

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beta_:

Much better then the mac was able to do

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beta_:

Yes

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SHADOW_V:

thats good

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beta_:

But still a little pixily compared to the STB

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SHADOW_V:

on all the channels

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beta_:

On my analog channels for sure

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beta_:

now the only digital channel I've tried so far was a recording, not livetv

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SHADOW_V:

beta_, wagnerrp is right though even analog channels on other tv should be digital on the stb

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beta_:

I was assuming it was encoding since the STB didn't seem to be reporting that ADS was on

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wagnerrp:

ADS?

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beta_:

Analog-Digital Simulcast

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beta_:

I have found that my hd channels are DTCP encrypted tho :(

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wagnerrp:

yeah, that tends to happen

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** SHADOW_V knocks on wood **

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SHADOW_V:

mine work

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jblack:

juski stripped nekkid streaked the channel.

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SHADOW_V:

well hello there stranger

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SHADOW_V:

iamlindoro, did you have a fun vacation there

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iamlindoro:

Not really a vacation, working at a camp for kids w/ cancer

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SHADOW_V:

oh well thats good to hear that you where helping but unfortunate about the cancer part

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iamlindoro:

indeed, but good kids

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SHADOW_V:

hopefully they had fun even though you where around

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iamlindoro:

think they bore the punishment alright

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SHADOW_V:

ah thats good to hear

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Dagmar:

So... no late-night hair-braiding parties then

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** SHADOW_V blinks **

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Dagmar:

Yes, I am a bad man.

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SHADOW_V:

iamlindoro, i was waiting to ask you waht is the tool to use on comcasts networks to get the channel data

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SHADOW_V:

i hadn't posted on the mailing board and wanted to

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iamlindoro:

scte65scan

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iamlindoro:

it's fairly heavily covered on the users list over the past few months

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SHADOW_V:

ah ok yeah i wasnt able to post it before but i want to try and find out whats going on when i do the scan

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SHADOW_V:

i am also calling comcast to get them to fix my horrible service

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SHADOW_V:

esp the sub par quality

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thedarkone:

whatz best live cd with mythtv on it?

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mazda01:

anyone know how I would integrate mythtv-status into my script that I want to run which basically checks to make sure the slave backend is running and if not, start it.

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clever:

i would just check ps aux to see if its running

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mazda01:

clever, well, this would involve sshing into slave backend, and restarting the backend on the slave. what happens is that when I log off and then log back into my master backend, the slave doesn't reconnect so I have to ssh into the slave and restart it's backend. I was hoping I could write a script that would do this upon me starting up my master backend. any thoughts. I have no experience writing bash scripts.

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clever:

ah

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cesman:

mazda01: mission 1 in said script... ensure you can ssh into sbe automatically

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clever:

i use an unencrypted public/private key pair for that

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clever:

puttygen.exe makes creating those trivialy easy, but it can also be done from normal linux cli tools

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clever:

or was it puttykeygen, i forget, but its on the putty site

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cesman:

mazda01: I've not used mythtv-status... I'd have to run it to see how it works and to see what it reports when SBE isn't connected...

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cesman:

mazda01: then, when it isn't connected, it is just a matter of ssh'n to restart the backend

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cesman:

well, work work tomorrow...

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mazda01:

cesman, i am sure id would have the word not connected just like in mythweb

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mazda01:

i don't know how to write bash script so I wouldn't know how to write it to have it ssh into the slaev and then run a command like sudo /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart

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clever:

one of the key parts youll need is

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clever:

ssh root@slavebackend -t -i ~/private_key /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart

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clever:

sudo cant easily be used from a script, so its better to just go directly to root

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clever:

and since your not using sudo, the -t is probly optional

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clever:

and you wont need a password on root, the private key works

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mazda01:

clever, but my ssh key has a passphrase. will it not work then? not to mention I don't think I allow root to login on any of my ssh server

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clever:

you will need a 2nd key without a passphrase for it to script right

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clever:

i use some of the sshd magic to limit that key to only run 1 command

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AndyCap:

you can allow sudo to run without a tty in sudoers though

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sid3windr:

and without a password, so very easily as a script

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sid3windr:

:)

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clever:

would be better to just bypass sudo in this case

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clever:

AndyCap: also, if you use ssh -t, it creates a tty, so you may be able to blindly pipe the pw into ssh anyways

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mazda01:

clever, well. i really have no idea how to do this so if it's that easy by all means, let me have what you got please.

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clever:

my script is used as part of the channel changer

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mazda01:

i couldn't even login to slave using root via ssh. it kept rejecting my pub key for whatever reason

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clever:

it uses a webcam to ocr the cable box and if its wrong, uses ssh to make every box in the house beep

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clever:

mazda01: you need to add it to the authorized_keys file, for root

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sid3windr:

mazda01: perhaps enable root logins? ;)

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mazda01:

clever, add what to auth keys file. I can already ssh into slave as me just fine, just not root. I merely pointed root to use the key that I use. you're saying I need to create another key without a passphrase? then somehow get the auth_key file to see that one as well?

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clever:

mazda01: the same thing you added to the user you can ssh in as

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clever:

and it must be a file that only root can write to, or sshd wont trust it

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clever:

and same for the dir its in, and every dir above that

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clever:

so / /root/ /root/.ssh and /root/.ssh/authorized_keys all need to be limited to root only, for writing, and /root/.ssh/authorized_keys has to contain the public half of the key

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clever:

in my case, i have a line like this in the file

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clever:

command="/home/clever/bin/checkchannel" ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc.....

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clever:

that forces every incoming ssh with that key, to run that command, instead of what it wanted

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clever:

so if somebody does manage to steal your unencrypted key, all they can do is restart the backend

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Floppe:

possible to have a script check if any scheduled shows will start in the next minutes? I need to restart backend a couple of times every week because EITs stops updating and would not want a crontab top halt a recording.

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mazda01:

clever, I can't figure it out darn it. I am tryign to add a key for root user and I just keep getting Permission denied (publickey) when I run the 1st line of the script which is: ssh root@celeron -t -i /root/.ssh/id_dsa.pub

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clever:

check the ssh logs

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clever:

Floppe: mythbackend -v none --printsched

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Floppe:

thanks

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AndyCap:

clever: ocr the cablebox? what software do you use for that? :)

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clever:

AndyCap: i wrote my own crude code, it just takes a picture of what channel 45 should look like

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clever:

and counts the number of pixels its off by

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clever:

so if the camera moves, or the brightnes changes, it detects a false error, and goes nuts

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AndyCap:

Hehe, ok.

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Shadow__X:

nice

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clever:

but normaly, it reblasts once and fixes itself

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Shadow__X:

well thats good

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clever:

http://gallery.earthtools.ca/index.py/channel

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clever:

in here, you can see the db of images it compares against, and some of the debug images

[07:23:29]

clever:

its mostly bash and imagemagick

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Shadow__X:

i like capacitance touch screens btw

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clever:

id love to use touch screens more, but i cant afford them:P

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clever:

i have an old 800x600 montior with a serial cord, that i think is touch screen, but never got it working

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clever:

with 110.mistake.png you can see the brightness was off some

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clever:

and in 140.mistake.png, a whole digit was lost

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Shadow__X:

get a partime job and check out jaadu on the iphone or itouch i think its pretty good

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clever:

id have to buy the phone and software:P

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Shadow__X:

or get the ipod touch

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clever:

every mp3 player that has an internal battery, has died on me

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Shadow__X:

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.jaaduv . . . 8W1T7K9pavwQ

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clever:

vnc client?

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Shadow__X:

and rdp

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clever:

i have a vnc client for my pda

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clever:

palm based program

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clever:

ive even run mythfrontend thru it

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Shadow__X:

eh yeah but i am sure tbis is better

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clever:

it looks like its just taking advantage of things like the g-force sensor

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clever:

and automatic scrolling of the view area

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clever:

and the multi-touch screen

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clever:

stuff thats imposible on my phone, so id have to buy new hardware

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Shadow__X:

yup bit itnprovides a pretty useable experience

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Shadow__X:

s/bit/but

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Shadow__X:

i really wuuld rather have a proper keyboard though

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Shadow__X:

would

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clever:

i was thinking of a more integrated remote for mythtv with my phone

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clever:

something that makes full use of the telnet protocol

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wagnerrp:

well you would have to use far more than telnet to make it worthwhile

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wagnerrp:

you would have to interface it against backend and mysql calls to get any real amount of data to show on screen

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Dibblah:

No, you'd just have to extend the telnet interface.

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Dibblah:

Raw access to mysql is _bad_ ;)

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clever:

id start by trying to make more use of the existing myth proto along side the telnet one

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clever:

and extend one of them when i need to

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Dibblah:

The Myth protocol doesn't deal with anything frontend.

[08:02:33]

clever:

but it will provide me with the missing data i may want to display

[08:02:38]

wagnerrp:

no, but the mythprotocol tells you things about the recordings

[08:02:46]

wagnerrp:

allow you to pipe in images, etc...

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clever:

telnet can too

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wagnerrp:

telnet will only tell you very limited information

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Dibblah:

Really? GP file access is in now?

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clever:

yeah

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Dibblah:

Wasn't that long since it was literally only recordings.

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clever:

the basic idea is to have a info list like in mythweb, with all the recordings with info, and let you pick one to play on the frontend

[08:03:33]

wagnerrp:

youve been able to grab recordings and snapshots over mythproto as long as ive been around

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wagnerrp:

but trunk recently has mythvideo access, including videos, coverart, fanart, trailers, etc...

[08:04:11]

Dibblah:

... I'm not so sure it does?

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Dibblah:

Unless some of iamlindoro's stuff was committed...

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wagnerrp:

im saying it does

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wagnerrp:

storage groups for those things got added months ago

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wagnerrp:

and you can stream any file within a storage group

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knowledgejunkie:

anyone tried DVB-S scanning on recent trunk with success?

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anykey_:

knowledgejunkie: yes

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knowledgejunkie:

anykey_: without importing a channels.conf?

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Dibblah:

wagnerrp: Storage groups != streaming.

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Dibblah:

The fieltransfer stuff only does recordings.

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anykey_:

knowledgejunkie: yes, just used an initial transponder

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wagnerrp:

yes, for recordings or mythvideo, you no longer need the content locally mounted

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juski:

morning all

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wagnerrp:

it all gets streamed

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juski:

wagnerrp: does that include covers/fanart too?

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knowledgejunkie:

anykey_: that's what I did, but it only scanned for channels on that transponder and then finished

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wagnerrp:

juski: yes

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juski:

cool :D

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stuarta:

fish!

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Dibblah:

wagnerrp: Are you sure this is vanilla trunk?

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knowledgejunkie:

anykey_: on 0.21-fxes it just worked

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Dibblah:

I am 90% sure that is not true in vanilla trunk.

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stuarta:

knowledgejunkie: did about a week ago (do a channel scan on dvb-s trunk)

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wagnerrp:

Dibblah: for anything that matters, it is unmodified

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anykey_:

knowledgejunkie: did you try to scan again?

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wagnerrp:

ive patched a couple of the external scripts

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wagnerrp:

but no patches to the internal code

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stuarta:

and dvb-t last night

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: thanks – been having a nightmare night of testing trunk's channel scanner

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stuarta:

how so? it's working reasonably well for me

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stuarta:

apart from the default_authorities which i'm trying to fix

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juski:

somebody should have told that TTfN guy that developing plugins for 0.21 is futile

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stuarta:

somebody probably did

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: dvb-t – only found 1/6 mplexes during a full scan, but successfully imported channels from the other 5 when doing tuned scans

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Dibblah:

stuarta: Were there commits that I missed to enable non-recording streaming?

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stuarta:

Dibblah: not sure what you mean

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stuarta:

knowledgejunkie: okay, that's bad

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: dvb-s – no option for a full scan, a tuned scan on a single mplex did not find any others

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wagnerrp:

the mythvideo storage group stuff

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Dibblah:

Streaming from the backend of files that are not recordings.

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juski:

just scrolled back – it was TTxT & nobody told him

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: see ticket 6689 with logs

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stuarta:

knowledgejunkie: did it find any channels on that dvb-s mux?

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stuarta:

kk

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: it found 12 channels

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: maybe it needed to be started on another mplex to be successful?

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: i just picked one a random from my 0.21-fixes db

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wagnerrp:

Dibblah: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changset/19978

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stuarta:

right, it theory it should have worked

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** stuarta reads ticket **

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stuarta:

gak! zip files...

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knowledgejunkie:

sorry...

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stuarta:

:)

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wagnerrp:

whats this TTfN stuff?

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Dibblah:

wagnerrp: Right. Which was why I was confused :)

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Dibblah:

"youve been able to grab recordings and snapshots over mythproto as long as ive been around"

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Dibblah:

You've only been around since 12/02/09? :)

[08:22:20]

wagnerrp:

i started using some time in '06

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wagnerrp:

streaming recordings has been around a long time

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wagnerrp:

streaming videos is a new thing

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Dibblah:

I know the recordings bit.

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Dibblah:

But mentioning snapshots, cover art, etc,...

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juski:

wagnerrp: somebody wanting helpdeveloping a 0.21 plugin earlier

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wagnerrp:

snapshots, as in recording framegrabs

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Dibblah:

preview images.

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wagnerrp:

right... thats actually a different faculty than the video streaming isnt it?

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juski:

I thought myth had always streamed recordings & preview images

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juski:

probably for as long as I've used it.. around 4 or 5 years now

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clever:

it has since i started using it

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clever:

Dibblah: i can only see needing sql for 2 things

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Dibblah:

Hrm. Okay. I'm wrong, then :)

[08:27:31]

clever:

finding the list of frontend with telnet enabled, and finding the master be

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Dibblah:

Second one is upnp

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clever:

yeah, but id have to learn something new:P

[08:28:11]

clever:

and id still need sql

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wagnerrp:

clever: except you shouldnt be touching the database directly, your bindings should be abstracting that for you

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: is freesat epg numbering a future possibility?

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clever:

wagnerrp: that would make things a little more portable between versions

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wagnerrp:

so long as the bindings are kept up to date

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clever:

yep

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wagnerrp:

at least the python bindings have full access to the frontends currently, not sure about perl

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clever:

though now that i think about the design, you would have a usb stick on the frontend your controling(in the room)

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clever:

so the helper app could just go to 127

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stuarta:

knowledgejunkie: yes, but unlikely this side of 0.22

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stuarta:

unless i find the info readily available whilst putting in the BAT handling

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: great – i didn't know if it was something else that hadn't worked in my scan but I wanted to ask politely!

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stuarta:

it's never worked, so its a "feature request" :-p

[08:34:33]

stuarta:

mainly trying to sort out regressions in the channel scanner atm

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knowledgejunkie:

see my tickets :)

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stuarta:

had a busy night?

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Dibblah:

Does this Tom Sparks's signature wind anyone else up?

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TTxT:

anyone awake in here?

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wagnerrp:

Dibblah: i was wondering about that earlier myself

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wagnerrp:

when most of the world uses Word and Powerpoint

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wagnerrp:

and the rest of the world uses editors capable of working with .docs and .ppts

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wagnerrp:

plus its ginormousness is a bit annoying

[08:38:10]

TTxT:

does anybody has an example of how to use mythuitextedit?

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stuarta:

knowledgejunkie: so far, from reading that log, it looks like it locks onto the muxes but then just continues on it's merry way

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knowledgejunkie:

After reinstalling trunk again for the first time in ages to work on that accessibility ticket for #6665, I then found that the channel scanner no longer likes me

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stuarta:

i haven't tried full scan for ages

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stuarta:

i tend to just rescan existing muxes

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stuarta:

which works

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juski:

TTxT: I looked in the scrollback. New features for 0.21 won't be accepted ;-)

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knowledgejunkie:

That was followed by an Indiana Jones-type escape from the video sources page (see #6637) and ended with gnarly screen corruption in mythtv-setup

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knowledgejunkie:

I decided I'd start with a completely fresh DB for testing trunk _as it would be quick to setup_

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stuarta:

:)

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TTxT:

juski: Ok, I just have to finish my plugin for my college project, and then I'm going to translate to 0.22

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juski:

TTxT: mythuitextedit is just one of the text entry boxes isn't it? There should be plenty of examples in the code I'd have thought

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juski:

oh then again, maybe not in 0.21

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TTxT:

juski: yes

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juski:

AFAIK little more than the menus were ported to mythui in time for 0.21

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TTxT:

juski: what would you recomend for text entry box in 0.21?

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: what I didn't understand was why the DVB-S scan restricted itself to the starting mplex and didn't venture any further

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stuarta:

it's been that way for a while

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stuarta:

it should find a NIT and populate the mux list

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stuarta:

then you can do a existing transport scan

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juski:

TTxT: whatever, say, MythMusic or MythVideo uses for text entry widgets

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: so all fresh DB require a channels.conf?

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stuarta:

no

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stuarta:

for dvb-s, you do a tuned scan on one mux

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stuarta:

then an existing transports scan

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juski:

TTxT: for later porting to trunk I think it'd be better to try & use mythuitextedit though. Should be plenty of examples in trunk plugins :)

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stuarta:

assuming the first one finds some channels

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stuarta:

it's far from ideal

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** knowledgejunkie checks existing transports **

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stuarta:

but we've a plan mapped out for how we'd like to handle it

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TTxT:

juski: so mythuitextedit works with 0.21?

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** knowledgejunkie finds quite a few suddenly (I did another tuned scan with a known BBC mux) **

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stuarta:

yeah, that's the best way

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juski:

TTxT: it probably hasn't changed much (if any) in a while

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juski:

TTxT: it's worth trying :)

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TTxT:

juski: ok, I'll try

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TTxT:

juski: thanks

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: will it be in for 0.22 though?

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stuarta:

not likely

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stuarta:

it's part of the broader picture of reworking dvb-s setup

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stuarta:

so its not such a PITA

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knowledgejunkie:

fingers crossed for 0.23 then

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stuarta:

yeah, that should be workable

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knowledgejunkie:

i was talking nonsense about the extra muxes – i was looking at the 0.21 db

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knowledgejunkie:

still just the 1 that i entered in the trunk db

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stuarta:

it looks like it never saw any tables when it was scanning

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Dibblah:

Uhm. How does a "Wordpress plugin" help with Mythweb role based authentication?

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: 'm going to start on the SL patch later – just to be sure so i haven't misunderstood – is it OK for me to implement an accessibility page for the scheduler with priority modifiers for CC/S/SL/AD etc

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stuarta:

extending what is there for HD?

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knowledgejunkie:

stuarta: yup

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stuarta:

excellent, that's what i was aiming for

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knowledgejunkie:

but maybe put it on a page that follows the one with the HD option. I could put them all on one and include hd/widescreen too?

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stuarta:

if you want you can add it to the existing ticket i have for that

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stuarta:

HD is already there

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stuarta:

and i think it's the only item

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stuarta:

so adding another few

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stuarta:

but given the changeset you pointed out the other day

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stuarta:

it might be best not to bother with CC & S

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knowledgejunkie:

i'd also like to do a page to collect the default new recording rule options in one place (where possible). I get really annoyed about having to always change the dupe detection to sub-then-desc and playback group

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stuarta:

since they used to be there and bjm moved them

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stuarta:

so he'd most likely kill anyone who put them back

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knowledgejunkie:

I still think it'd be useful to also add some/all of them to the custom record rule engine

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stuarta:

isn't there already a clause there for those?

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stuarta:

well CC at least

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knowledgejunkie:

I just think that accessbility-type options should not be hidden away on what is essentially a SQL editing page

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stuarta:

me either

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stuarta:

maybe we could sneak them in and see if he notices... >8–0

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knowledgejunkie:

exactly. initially CC was on the scheduler options, and was then moved away (but leaving HD) to the power priority editor never to be seen again. Even though either location seems to achieve the same end result, it would be nice if some of the options were more visible. after all, it's only a single button click to advance to the next config page if you're not interested in those features

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knowledgejunkie:

i dares ya

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knowledgejunkie:

obviously once I written it and removed all trace of me

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TTxT:

juski: need another help :)

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TTxT:

juski: i was reading mytharchive-ui.xml and I found the textedit area, but it is based from basetextedit. So my question is: where basetextedit is defined?

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TTxT:

this file is from trunk

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juski:

don't think mytharchive has been ported to mythui yet

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TTxT:

I found it

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juski:

don't forget UK peeps – the new series of Cow Hot Rod starts tonight :D

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stuarta:

wtf.... Cow Hot Rod ?!?!?!?!

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juski:

'Cow Hot Rod' is an anagram of 'Doctor Who'

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juski:

Russel T. Davies' show whose name is an anagram of 'Doctor Who'...

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juski:

I'll get me coat

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stuarta:

hmmm, why isn't it scheduled to record

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stuarta:

nothing i haven't already recorded for doctor who

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juski:

Torchwood

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stuarta:

yes that's on this week only

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stuarta:

all 5 episodes

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stuarta:

the downside to the bbc having the formula 1 is the endless reruns and highlights

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TTxT:

well, it didn't worked at all

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TTxT:

thats the code I have used http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1485517 in my -ui.xml file, shouldn't it just appear on screen when I start my plugin?

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juski:

TTxT: not sure you can have state types in 0.21 mythui

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TTxT:

hmm

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juski:

TTxT: might be much less hassle to code it for trunk

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juski:

it'll save you doing it twice

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TTxT:

I don't have time to do it... have to do it until friday

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juski:

!

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TTxT:

:(

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juski:

sounds like me, how I used to do my homework in the morning on the school bus

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TTxT:

heheh

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TTxT:

I didnt sleep last night...

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juski:

the French oral homework was tricky. Needed to drag my tape recorder along to do that

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TTxT:

I thought it would be easier... I was used to work with QT, but this mythui isn't easy

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TTxT:

to learn in a few days

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juski:

it's never easier :)

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TTxT:

just a simple text edit... and I cannot do it! argh

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juski:

ugh. somebody in our warehousing dept uses backticks as (rogue) apostrophes

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laga:

yeah, it must be fscking hard to operate a keyboard

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rooaus:

TTxT: Are you aware of the mythui doco on the wiki? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythUI_Theme_Development

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juski:

rooaus: might not be much use since he's working on 0.21

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juski:

it won't say which applies & which doesn't apply

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rooaus:

true, just saw mythui mentioned, I think many widgets that do exist in both have changed as w ell.

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juski:

this is probably the big reason developing new features for current released code is poo-pooed ;-)

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peterh:

Is there anyone who can help me setup my input configuration? I make a mistake that means I can watch live TV, manually start recordings, but scheduled recordings yield empty files. TIA Peter

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cityLights1:

hi

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cityLights1:

how can I parse a line that start with a line number, and drop the number?

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cityLights1:

so "001 printf("happy");" whould be "printf("happy");"

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laga:

use regular expressions?

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cityLights1:

can't I use awk?

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tank-man:

awk can use regular expressions

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laga:

if you already have the tool for the job, why don't you use it instead of asking in here?

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cityLights1:

I am new to parsing

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cityLights1:

so I need to sort-out if to use grep/cut/awk/sed ?

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laga:

that's not exactly parsing, that's using regular expressions to replace a part of the string

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laga:

you can use cut, awk or sed

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cityLights1:

got it awk '{print $2}'

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laga:

i guess you could call that tokenizing ;)

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cityLights1:

I still need all the stuff from $2 untill end of line

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jya:

sed -e 's/^[0–9]* $.*$/\1/g'

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jya:

echo "0001 blah blah" | sed -e 's/^[0–9]* $.*$/\1/g'

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jya:

blah blah

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cityLights1:

thanks, but I got cut to do it

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cityLights1:

I wish I did more parsing

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jya:

cut won't easily let you retain the remaining of the line, as it cuts after a single character

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jya:

to do what you want, only regular expression will cut it

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mzb:

8400GS is fine for 1080p using VDPAU, right?

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mzb:

or can I go lower? (aka, less power/money?)

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jya:

any cards that can do VDPAU, will do any resolutions

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jya:

what make the difference is when it comes to deinterlacer.

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mzb:

ok, in what way?

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jya:

a 8400gs is too slow for temporal spatial deinterlacing (Advanced in mythtv)

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mzb:

how will that affect me?

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mzb:

s/would

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jya:

will you want to watch FTA TV ?

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mzb:

yes

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jya:

then it will affect you

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mzb:

DVB 720p

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jya:

and all your channels are 720p? I doubt it

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juski:

720p is a bitch to deinterlace :P

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mzb:

there are no 1080p HDTV channels here that I know of

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jya:

1080i, SD TV , will require deinterlacing

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jya:

there are no 1080p HDTV period

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jya:

HD is 720p or 1080i

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mzb:

ok, no 1080x in .au that I know of!

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mzb:

;)

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jya:

you're in australia ?

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mzb:

close enough ;)

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juski:

some 1080p broadcasting happens in Europe apparently, though folk might be lying

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jya:

that's not true.

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jya:

1080p isn't even listed in the HDTV broadcast standard

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juski:

oh, I forgot you're the world's leading authority on HDTV

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jya:

if you're in Australia, all HD channels are 1080i

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jya:

nothing to do with authority, DVB-T only define HD as 720p or 1080i

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jya:

there's no 1080p

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jya:

so you can drop the attitude here ...

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mzb:

err, and according to wikipedia Australia seems to class 576p as HD as well :|

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mzb:

either way ... what sort of card would I need for 720p FTA/DVB ?

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mzb:

DVB-T

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mzb:

(cheapest/coolest/most-efficient)

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jya:

576p was only used by SBS

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jya:

they dropped that for 720p as well, but most of their content is 576i upscaled

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jya:

they don't broadcast true HD content yet

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mzb:

fair enough

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mzb:

card?

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jya:

ABC only recently started to have true 720p original content

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jya:

but ABC/SBS is now 720p , but just upscaled content

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** mzb lives on the coldest end of the south island of Australia ;) **

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mzb:

s/colder ;)

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jya:

all other HD channels in Oz are 1080i, so you will want good deinterlacing

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jya:

so really, the minimum card you hsould look at is a 9500GT or 8600GT minimum

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mzb:

really? interesting

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jya:

that's if you want the best available deinterlacers

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mzb:

hmm 9500GT looks power hungry

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mzb:

this is for the backend ... already got 2x9800GT's in (what will become) the main frontend

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mzb:

but suspect backend might end up being used for Bathurst, etc ;) [garage]

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jya:

a 9500GT probably uses less energy than 2x9800GT :)

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mzb:

uhuh ... not changing the "FE"

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jya:

The reason many people considered a 8400gs a while ago, was because some were based on the nvidia G98 chipset

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jya:

and it was the only nvidia processor able to do VC-1 in hardware, the other cards could only do h264 and mpeg2

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mzb:

we've bough a house, and I'm now told that I've lost the 3rd room to our 2nd child :|

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jya:

but this has changed since drivers 180.51, all nvidia cards with vdpau support can do vc-1 in hardware

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mzb:

so my "workstation" is now going to have to be connected (I think) to 3x LCD's etc (multiseat) with one of those being the main mythtv frontend

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mzb:

backup will be my current SD frontends ... either way .. I'm looking for *some* PCI-E graphics card that should do the job OK (eg. for watching Bathurst in HD) on the backend (AMD X2 S939 4400+)

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mzb:

ie: only occasional use

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mzb:

but machine will is on 24/7

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mzb:

s/will//

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jya:

you're talking about One HD ? that's 1080i

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jya:

you were asking about which vdpau card you should get. If you don't care about deinterlacing (but really you should), then any 8xxx or 9xxx will do. Otherwise get if you can a 9500GT or a 8600GT. You can find either in fanless configuration

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mzb:

err .. *cough* ... Tasmania doesn't have One HD yet ... but yes ... whatever way Bathurst will be transmitted here

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mzb:

noise doesn't matter ... it's power use

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mzb:

100W for a video card would be too much ;)

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mzb:

< $50 would be nice (I can hide that kind of expense to a certain extent;)

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jya:

I would assume that the difference on power usage when simply watching TV between a 8400gs and a 9500GT will be minimal

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mzb:

probably need s-video and dvi-d

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jya:

a 8400gs can be found for about $39

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jya:

that's how much they are at MSY

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mzb:

10W difference

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mzb:

yeah ... and imagine how much it costs in pigeons to get it over Bass Strait ;)

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jya:

it all depends on how they are rated..

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jya:

it's certainly not a 10W difference under typical usage

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mzb:

s/penguins if not air-mail! ;)

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mzb:

40W and 50W TDP

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mzb:

still, the 9500GT is certainly one of the less power hungry ones

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mzb:

(according to the stats)

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jya:

Now, you may be very happy with temporal 2X deinterlacing only, a 9400GT will do this just fine

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jya:

that's what I use on my main system. But I find for sports, the Advanced 2X deinterlacers much better (I use a 8600GT on my backend)

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mzb:

in the short term, this card will probably be connected to an SD RPTV via S-VIDEO

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mzb:

hmm

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mzb:

I think I'll leave it .. err .. hmm .. early October ..

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** mzb counts fingers and toes .. **

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mzb:

comes down to when baby is born and how long it takes me to build a fence, methinks ;)

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mzb:

I guess I can probably squeeze a card from somewhere before October, we'll see

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mzb:

might also depend on how warm the garage is, and if there's beer in it :)

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jya:

by then, you'll find new cards that uses heaps less power, and be far more powerful

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jya:

already talks about the ion2 platform

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mzb:

and far more expensive

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mzb:

9500GT in a couple of months will probably have to do

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jya:

doubt it, low-end computer gears keep getting cheaper and cheaper

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mzb:

I suspect I'll end up finding something on eBay

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mzb:

so if I'm watching HD on an SD screen oer S-VIDEO (just stick with me for a moment) am I still going to have deinterlacing issues on a slower card?

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mzb:

(* with the state of ONE in .tas it's hard to tell what format(s) Bathurst will be broadcast in ... can't imagine them NOT doing SD, but then .tas are the least of Ten's problems)

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mzb:

in theory ONE was slated for release on July 2nd, but I didn't see a formal release, etc

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johnnyb1991trek:

hi, i have a mythfrontend problem

[12:25:04]

johnnyb1991trek:

basically, the frontend crashes whenever i go back to the menu after i exit from watching livetv, or a recording

[12:25:19]

johnnyb1991trek:

im using mythbuntu 9.04 x64

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johnnyb1991trek:

when i say crashes, it just immediatly quits

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Dibblah:

NVidia?

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johnnyb1991trek:

yes=

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Dibblah:

Version of Myth / NV Driver?

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johnnyb1991trek:

im using version 180

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johnnyb1991trek:

proprietary

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Dibblah:

When did it start being a problem?

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johnnyb1991trek:

when i started using 8.10, im on 9.04 now

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johnnyb1991trek:

i was using the same hardware before 8.10, and it was fine then

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johnnyb1991trek:

any ideas?

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Dibblah:

Run mythfrontend from the console, pastebin the output.

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johnnyb1991trek:

ok

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Dibblah:

And this is vanilla – No patches?

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Dibblah:

(ie no vdpau)

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johnnyb1991trek:

umm i dont think so

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johnnyb1991trek:

i mean ive applied all the updates that the update mananger gives me

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johnnyb1991trek:

but its been doing it since install

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johnnyb1991trek:

http://pastebin.com/d6d8b3526

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johnnyb1991trek:

the last line in the console was a segmentaion fault

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johnnyb1991trek:

i played the vid for 5 or so seconds, so i think like 72 is when i stoped playing the vid (where it crashes)

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johnnyb1991trek:

*line 72

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johnnyb1991trek:

is the pastebin working?

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johnnyb1991trek:

????

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johnnyb1991trek:

dibblah?

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Dibblah:

Try disabling opengl vsync in the frontend settings.

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johnnyb1991trek:

how do i do that?

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johnnyb1991trek:

and i just ran the frontend using qt, and i still had the same problem

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Dibblah:

mythfrontend settings / playback settings / there's a tickbox somewhere in there.

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johnnyb1991trek:

nope, still doing it

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johnnyb1991trek:

final line is still a segmentation fault, what is that

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johnnyb1991trek:

*?

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johnnyb1991trek:

got any ideas?

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johnnyb1991trek:

perhaps i could change the nvidia driver to the older one (its got 173 listed as well)?

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jya:

180.xx is good, I doubt what you're seeing has anything to do with the nvidia driver

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johnnyb1991trek:

hmmm

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johnnyb1991trek:

so what dyu think it is then?

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jya:

unfortunately, your log doesn't show anything of interest..

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jya:

can you try this:

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jya:

start mythfrontend with:

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jya:

gdb mythfrontend.real

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jya:

then type :

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jya:

set args -v playback

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jya:

then: run

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jya:

paste what it shows

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johnnyb1991trek:

http://pastebin.com/d133f6bfb

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johnnyb1991trek:

thats from when it quit, to as far up as the console went

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johnnyb1991trek:

i was watching a recording btw, not live tv

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jya:

i was hoping it would crash in an external library so we could better pin-point where the problem was...

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jya:

not there.

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jya:

I'm afraid you will have to compile mythtv yourself .. luckily, in ubuntu it's quite easy

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jya:

type: sudo apt-get build-dep mythtv

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Essobi:

Morning all.

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jya:

that will install all the depedency required to compile mythtv

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juski:

might miss out one or two things, seen that happen in the past

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juski:

thankfully easy to troubleshoot when that happens though :)

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johnnyb1991trek:

oh ok

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johnnyb1991trek:

will this erase all my settings?

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jya:

no

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johnnyb1991trek:

good

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juski:

ideally you should remove the packages though

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jya:

won't even touch your installation

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jya:

i will make you install in a different directory

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johnnyb1991trek:

ummm

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johnnyb1991trek:

well its installing now

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jya:

http://pastebin.com/m278d6db4

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jya:

use this command line to compile, it's pretty much the exact same one used to compile the ubuntu mythtv packages.

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johnnyb1991trek:

well its installed now

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johnnyb1991trek:

shall i run normally 1st

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jya:

that's just the dependency to build.

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jya:

to build run the configure command I copied above

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jya:

once you've run configure

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jya:

type : make

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jya:

once compilation is done: sudo make install

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jya:

now to run it, because you've installed it in a different directory

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johnnyb1991trek:

the command you sent me is the pastebin link i sent u

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jya:

you will do:

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jya:

LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/mythtv/lib gdb /usr/local/mythtv/bin/mythfrontend

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jya:

type run

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jya:

copy the output, this will now have full debugging symbols

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jya:

hum... no the pastebin I copied, is the command to compile mythtv

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johnnyb1991trek:

no its not

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johnnyb1991trek:

wait it is

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jya:

http://pastebin.com/m278d6db4

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jya:

course it is

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johnnyb1991trek:

when i run the command, i get no such file or directory

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jya:

sorry

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jya:

also type:

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jya:

apt-get source mythtv

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johnnyb1991trek:

k

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jya:

that will retrieve the source code, did you activate the source repository?

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johnnyb1991trek:

umm i have no idea

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jya:

let's take this privately, most here won't care about this...

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johnnyb1991trek:

k

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johnnyb1991trek:

according to jya, i have a problem with libthread

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johnnyb1991trek:

he suggested i ask in here

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jya:

no i suggested you ask on the ubuntu forum :)

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johnnyb1991trek:

ok lol

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johnnyb1991trek:

done

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jya:

here was the backtrace, just in case... weird crash

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jya:

http://pastebin.com/m350937fa

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jya:

he said it happens even with a brand new ubuntu install

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jya:

faulty RAM?

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johnnyb1991trek:

i hope not

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johnnyb1991trek:

i havent had any other issues to do with ram

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johnnyb1991trek:

i do change it quite often, but its not like i do it with the pc on or anything

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johnnyb1991trek:

and by change i mean, take a 1gb out for my other pc

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jya:

ok, back to L&O :)

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johnnyb1991trek:

k

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johnnyb1991trek:

bye

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johnnyb1991trek:

well im getting a new pc soon, so i supose ill just have 2 live with it until then

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poodyp:

!8ball go to work?

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poodyp:

oops

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laga:

yes, slacker

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nordle:

Hi there, has anyone compiled 0.21.1 fixes branch on kernel > 2.6.28.9? I was using http://pastebin.com/m40ada8b0 this configure. But on a 2.6.29 kernel it freaks saying "#error "DVB driver includes with API version 3 not found!"

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Dibblah:

You need the right kernel include headers.

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iamlindoro:

and a version of myth that exists ;)

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juski:

iamlindoro: did you know your name is a trending topic on twitter? ;-)

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nordle:

Hi Dibblah, thanks for reply. What do you mean by right kernel include headers? I have the whole sources of 2.6.29.6 and have compiled and installed kernel from it.

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iamlindoro:

juski: Yes, I died early today :)

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Dibblah:

You need the kernel headers that match the kernel you are using.

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nordle:

Dibblah: I guess I do, compiled and installed from source about 30mins ago.

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Dibblah:

No, you don't if you've only done what you said.

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Dibblah:

/usr/include/linux/dvb

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nordle:

Do I change my configure and point it to the above (/usr/inc/etc). Previously I've compiled it the way that I am and its always worked, hence why I'm now floundering.

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juski:

iamlindoro: that tweeting mythtv status thing might have a use in a role of making suggestions for shows to record :)

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Dibblah:

No.

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juski:

iamlindoro: but not if you 'follow' just any old idiot though, or there be spammage

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iamlindoro:

juski: I think if suggestions ever get implemented, I'm not sure I'd ever use it

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iamlindoro:

I'm seldom lacking for things to watch, more often deleting things I couldn't be bothered to get it

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juski:

I don't read newspapers & seldom see trailers anymore

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iamlindoro:

er get to

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Dibblah:

Bah.

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Dibblah:

+-#if (DVB_API_VERSION != 3) ++#if (DVB_API_VERSION != 3 && DVB_API_VERSION != 5)

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juski:

not watching livetv has its disadvantages :)

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Dibblah:

Look in google, nordle.

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nordle:

Dibblah: ok, will do, thanks.

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abqjp:

iamlindoro, I just got a news email stating that you died. At the age of 93. I didn't think you where that old :-p

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iamlindoro:

abqjp: Alas, another myth theme is left without a maintainer ;)

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iamlindoro:

At least I finished the mythgame screens before I went

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abqjp:

I didn't know you where the "architect of U.S. war in Vietnam"

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juski:

*and Graphite

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nordle:

Dibblah: The majority of posts I've seen so far appear to include lines about missing headers, as you said, such as "linux/dvb/version.h: No such file or directory" etc, but I don't have that http://pastebin.com/m6e59b7e3

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iamlindoro:

Should have called in dead to work today

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iamlindoro:

juski: Ah, the port wasn't mine, but I meant getting the Graphite MythGame screens done last night

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juski:

somebody was asking if I'd died on the wiki a couple of days ago..

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juski:

s/died/ceased to exist

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iamlindoro:

Well, a teensy bit of the code in the port was mine, but hardly the meat of it, anyway

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gbee:

juski: dematerialised

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juski:

heh. gonna take another swipe at *you know what* tonight

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iamlindoro:

I would love that you know what

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RDV_Linux:

iamlindoro: I guess I can say a double welcome back with your 9 day absence and resurrection. :)

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juski:

still not really any further forwards. I think I've seriously missed a trick

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iamlindoro:

RDV_Linux: Sorta biblical

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juski:

and on the 7th day? ;-)

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iamlindoro:

that you know what would sure make Graphite's menus a lot prettier

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iamlindoro:

s/prettier/actually tolerable/

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juski:

it would make every single horizontal text list better :)

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juski:

unless words in said list always happen to be the same length

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juski:

talking about it & staring at it isn't helping so I might have to ask a grownup again

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wombo:

juski; I agree the horizontal list lets it down a bit

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Dibblah:

You are a pair of teases, you know that?

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wombo:

;)

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juski:

meh it's not like it isn't all I've talked about for erm..

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iamlindoro:

What'd I tease? I've released things :)

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Dibblah:

nordle: Look up the exact error with quotes.

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Dibblah:

There's a patch from somewhere or other.

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Dibblah:

That might do something useful?

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Dibblah:

Vague? Me?

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Dibblah:

Damnit. Where did I put my sealant squirty gun?

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juski:

woo the trailer for the 're-imagining' of 'V' looks quite nifty

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AndyCap:

juski: heh, would be hard not to improve the looks of the series.

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juski:

oh I dunno, the original 3-parter wasn't at all bad

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juski:

they spoiled the ass out of it with the starchild crap though

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AndyCap:

juski: yeah, the miniseries was ok

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AndyCap:

juski: the sfx reuse in the series was kind of a turn off. and the budget kind of shows. :P

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juski:

sfx reuse all over the place is some kind of in-joke apparently

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jblack:

It's easy to forget that there was different sfx technology 25 years ago

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jblack:

Most of the stuff at the time was done by hand and was incredibly expensive.

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juski:

and still is

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jblack:

ya kidding? They have cgi in kid's shows now.

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juski:

oh. special FX.. not *sound* effects. LOL

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jblack:

A nice computer from that era was 1mhz.

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juski:

if you were lucky

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jblack:

Nah, call it 5.

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juski:

anyway, *good* CGI must still be expensive ;)

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jblack:

inasmuch as good is relative? Sure. =)

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jblack:

Check out the last starfighter. Not because the acting is any good (it's horrid, actually), but because it's one of the first flicks to use CGI.

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juski:

seen it many times :)

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jams:

it will be interesting to see how mythpress plugin turns out

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jblack:

They spent $14 million on that cgi

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AndyCap:

argh, screwed over by another tuner vendor. Dangit

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jblack:

well, the whole film did, but I can't see how they spent more than $500 on the acting...

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jblack:

http://www.premiere.com/List/20-Benchmark-Fil . . . tion-History ohhh

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iamlindoro:

RDV_Linux: Just saw your updates to JAMU to do the "Watch Recordings" fanart/etc. downloads-- nice job! I'll play with it tonight

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RDV_Linux:

iamlindoro: Thanks. I am particularly pleased with choosing the correct movie without interaction from a user.

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iamlindoro:

RDV_Linux: Cool. Hopefully it'll make it into contrib for .22

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gbee:

jblack: careful, some people in here really like that film ;)

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RDV_Linux:

Who knows nothing I have submitted so far has been accepted so far, but when it comes to that I am way down on the list. In the end like most contributors what is submitted is used by ourselves most of all. I have only heard of one person trying to use Jamu while I use it all the time and almost never use ttvdb.py

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iamlindoro:

RDV_Linux: Probably has more to do with it being MythVideo stuff than it not being wanted-- AIUI we should see action on many of the MythVideo tickets as the release begins to loom close

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iamlindoro:

RDV_Linux: There are (at least) dozens of people using the Episode/Season/etc. stuff I wrote, and that's been sitting around for a good while too-- but I have faith that it'll make .22

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iamlindoro:

I know that Anduin has been very busy w/ work of late, but it'll get there

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RDV_Linux:

Without your stuff the apparent value of MythUI is greatly diminished.

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iamlindoro:

Well, I think the value of MythUI goes far beyond anything I have added to it, but certainly people crave the flashy stuff

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juski:

I think that's unfair, RDV_Linux

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juski:

fanart adds something but the very fact the new widgets don't look like ass goes a long way

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iamlindoro:

Indeed

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juski:

s/ass/qt

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iamlindoro:

God help me, I'm actually looking forward to all the settings screens getting converted eventually

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iamlindoro:

Even though it will mean large amounts of theming

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juski:

iamlindoro: not converted. redone

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RDV_Linux:

juski: I am in no way taking a shot at MythUI changes. It was not until the Tera and Graphite themes came out that the value is as obvious.

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iamlindoro:

tomaytoe tomahtoe

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juski:

RDV_Linux: well duh! :)

[16:02:33]

juski:

no other theme even makes use of mythui features

[16:02:39]

iamlindoro:

Yes, no argument that MythUI needs MythUI themes to shine

[16:03:00]

iamlindoro:

hopefully others will pick up on it soon, there's certainly enough documentation to get *something* done now

[16:03:21]

iamlindoro:

even though admittedly the MythUI docs are imperfect as yet

[16:03:27]

juski:

I'm not setting foot in another xml file til this variable width stuff is off my back

[16:03:27]

gbee:

think we're barely scratched the surface there and I know mythui doesn't go as far as I'd like, but as far as I can manage in the time available

[16:03:49]

gbee:

and not least, as far as my abilities allow :)

[16:04:05]

juski:

right. time to head home I think

[16:04:30]

iamlindoro:

gbee: I think what you've done is amazing. I think all the "core" MythUI stuff is there, and it gives you a geat base to work from at your own pace after .22

[16:04:36]

iamlindoro:

er great

[16:05:08]

RDV_Linux:

gbee: I second iamlindoro's remarks. Thanks

[16:05:09]

gbee:

enough to send a chill down my spine – Failed to load the requested file /home/gbee/Development/myth/filmstrip_theme/filmstrip.svg

[16:05:56]

gbee:

hmm, looks like I just moved it, but I don't remember doing so

[16:06:06]

gbee:

need to think of a proper name too

[16:06:08]

iamlindoro:

gbee: Are you working on SVG support? (Or has it been there and I didn't know?)

[16:06:25]

gbee:

iamlindoro: nah, another theme idea

[16:07:00]

iamlindoro:

Ah, an inkscape error

[16:07:09]

gbee:

yes, I know working on a third theme whilst mythui and Terra remain unfinished is indulgent, but it's more fun right now

[16:07:09]

iamlindoro:

thought it was a myth log and was trying to figure that one out

[16:09:34]

iamlindoro:

Don't think anyone should be compelled to do anything that's not fun for them

[16:10:20]

iamlindoro:

I need to document mythgame and mythweather's xml today

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gbee:

that's fun? ;)

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iamlindoro:

not so much

[16:14:08]

iamlindoro:

but I'm fairly closeish to having all the xml files documented now

[16:14:17]

iamlindoro:

And those two are fairly fresh in my mind

[16:14:40]

iamlindoro:

leaving only the dreaded programinfo-using screens from recordings-ui.xml and schedule-ui.xml

[16:14:46]

iamlindoro:

which I really really don't want to do

[16:15:01]

iamlindoro:

So it's forward motion without making me want to gouge out my own eyes

[16:15:19]

gbee:

hmm, did I commit your patches for additional icons in PBB?

[16:15:47]

iamlindoro:

nope

[16:15:54]

iamlindoro:

Have them up to date still though

[16:15:58]

iamlindoro:

(but not in trac)

[16:16:27]

iamlindoro:

think I added an additional resinfo (Resolution info) section in playbackbox.cpp just for the resolution icons

[16:18:59]

gbee:

ok, well I should really get those in since I've already done up icons for this theme

[16:19:44]

iamlindoro:

heh

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iamlindoro:

So *now* it matters ;)

[16:19:57]

iamlindoro:

Graphite supports them already also

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gbee:

congratulations, you have now graduated "How the world works 101"

[16:20:44]

iamlindoro:

youch

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sphery:

gbee: so with http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5659#comment:5 since it never went to trunk (only -fixes), is there a plan for 0.22 (or just wait until someone finishes up the trunk patch)?

[16:22:21]

sphery:

that was laga, right?

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nordle:

Dibblah: I think the only sensible thing to do, for the sake of the human race, is to shoot me! :) svn up and all my problems went away.....doh!

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RDV_Linux:

iamlindoro: When you try Jamu for Watched recordings, I have two suggestions (1) Try it from the command line with the options -MWV for verbose output. (2) change to -MW option when running as a cron job. I added a small section to the Jamu wiki page called "Scheduled and Recorded" you could check out. I will be glad to give you support if you run into problems.

[16:23:14]

laga:

sphery: yes :(

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Not an actual working diff, but I'm using something like this right now http://pastebin.com/m4d186bc4

[16:23:27]

** gbee hands Dibblah the rifle – take him round back, I've just cleaned the carpets in here **

[16:23:33]

gbee:

iamlindoro: ok thanks

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sphery:

laga: are you still interested in it (I know you're not doing much with *buntu packaging, anymore)?

[16:25:02]

gbee:

sphery: the fixes required are really pretty minor, if someone does that I'll commit – I may even get around to it (hah)

[16:25:02]

sphery:

guess it's not the end of the world if it just disappears, but since it's like the only thing in -fixes that's not in trunk, it's been on my "watch list"

[16:25:03]

iamlindoro:

RDV_Linux: Thanks, I read the section in the wiki and will try it out tonight-- appreciate the offer to help very much

[16:25:06]

laga:

sphery: still interested? yes, but it'll be two weeks before i have time to be able to fix the patch (have to set up development environment again etc)

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RDV_Linux:

np

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sphery:

cool... just curious

[16:25:44]

laga:

sphery: thinking about going all the way to trunk anways

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Oh, and the help text hunk too, http://pastebin.com/m30f27916

[16:26:26]

iamlindoro:

gbee: Sorry it's not a working diff, I have too many other PBB changes to clean up a diff while at work

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sphery:

gbee: btw, if you wanted to commit a quick & easy patch on #6675 , then maybe no one will notice who committed the incomplete bindings fix 9 months ago or who wrote the patch that was committed :)

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gbee:

*ahem*

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sphery:

oh, the patch wasn't by the person I thought it was... anyway, might protect the committer :)

[16:31:47]

netw1z:

hi

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gbee:

all my fault, don't use mythweb with trunk so I never noticed

[16:32:11]

sphery:

anyway, it's not a big deal (as it wasn't noticed for 9 months), but anyone who uses the perl bindings ToStringList() equivalent sends a corrupt message to the backend

[16:32:46]

sphery:

yeah, to be honest, I don't think /any/ scripts or mythweb or anything uses the bindings to_string() to write a programinfo for the backend

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gbee:

s/mythweb/bindings/

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sphery:

(at least none of the official/contrib ones we have)

[16:33:31]

sphery:

just noticed it when I wrote a little demo for wagnerrp that worked great on -fixes and didn't work on trunk :)

[16:34:41]

sphery:

oh, and I apologize for the unrelated changes (the doc changes in programinfo.h and the addition of the production year coment to the constructor)

[16:34:54]

sphery:

just figured they didn't warrant a separate patch/ticket/commit

[16:36:50]

jams:

crafty little birds, just found out where they have been getting under the gutter leafguard. Now to patch the hole so they will stop building nests in the gutter causing them to backup and overflow.

[16:37:31]

sphery:

but in here, everyone says that regular backups are good?

[16:39:03]

jams:

that is true, but i'm tired of the birds backup causing water to leak into the house.

[16:43:23]

laga:

set the sticky bit?

[16:44:01]

iamlindoro:

kill -9 birds

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SHADOW_V:

# /etc/init.d/cats hunt also works

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SHADOW_V:

or i gues start would of been good as well

[16:50:32]

** iamlindoro ponders adding plot/text descriptions to mythgame **

[16:50:44]

iamlindoro:

seems an oversight that they're not there already

[16:51:34]

iamlindoro:

Wonder if someone could write a mobygames grabber to pull in info for all these games

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sphery:

iamlindoro: do you have rominfo installed?

[16:53:10]

iamlindoro:

sphery: The romdb thing?

[16:53:13]

sphery:

yeah

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iamlindoro:

Think so-- but much of my stuff is ScummVM games

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iamlindoro:

And other classic adventures

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iamlindoro:

which are collections of files and not ROMs per se

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sphery:

ahhh

[16:54:14]

sphery:

yeah, I don't have any games, so I don't know much/anything about mythgame

[16:54:28]

iamlindoro:

I know a little bit, but certainly nothing worth calling me an expert

[16:54:35]

sphery:

I find that a terminal with vi and the myth source can be a compelling game

[16:54:51]

iamlindoro:

I am just theming it very similarly to MythVideo, and so it would be nice to complete some of the more obvious parallels

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sphery:

sounds like a good plan

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iamlindoro:

Plus, helps with consistency of user experience

[16:56:43]

sphery:

that's crazy talk

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sphery:

consistency in myth /and/ the plugins?

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gbee:

sphery: was seconds from committing that fix when I was hit by the VDPAU lockup bug :/

[16:58:49]

gbee:

now I've lost the ticket

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sphery:

gbee: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6675

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sphery:

thanks, too

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gbee:

done

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gbee:

heh, must have been thinking of something else when writing the commit message

[17:15:17]

gbee:

how stable is nvidia 185.18.14?

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wagnerrp:

ive been running it for a couple weeks now

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sphery:

gbee: thanks. and the commit message is close enough (I didn't describe it too well in the summary, anyway, so that probably confused things)

[17:20:30]

** kormoc can't wait for wp-mythweb **

[17:20:38]

kormoc:

It'll be streamlined!

[17:20:44]

wagnerrp:

wp?

[17:20:50]

kormoc:

wordpress

[17:21:03]

kormoc:

Some guy wants to re-write mythweb as a wordpress plugin, so he has multi-user support

[17:21:07]

wagnerrp:

is that the latest request, since python?

[17:21:15]

kormoc:

cause that's easier then taking 30 minutes and adding in user support to current :)

[17:22:44]

kormoc:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/387717

[17:23:23]

iamlindoro:

kormoc: I am not web-saavy, how in the world would the wordpress version work, anyway?

[17:23:38]

wagnerrp:

better!

[17:24:00]

wagnerrp:

faster!

[17:24:02]

wagnerrp:

stronger!

[17:24:06]

sphery:

is wordpress one of those wiki things?

[17:24:12]

wagnerrp:

na na na na na na na na....

[17:24:13]

kormoc:

sphery, blog

[17:24:25]

sphery:

er, yeah, close enough :)

[17:24:32]

kormoc:

iamlindoro, bout the same, just have to re-write the templates and the init code

[17:24:50]

kormoc:

iamlindoro, which is way easier then checking $_SERVER['http_auth_user'] and checking a table of permissions ;)

[17:25:39]

sphery:

btw, kormoc, thanks for the explicit mention of the disallowed joe-public user

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kormoc:

Yeah, no problem :)

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iamlindoro:

kormoc: heh

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kormoc:

I really wonder if it's lack of knowledge or what that makes people think that re-writing would be easier then patching

[17:29:39]

sphery:

pretty sure it's, "I looked at MythWeb code and realized that it was written by someone smarter than I, but I used wordpress once to write a blog, so..."

[17:29:43]

iamlindoro:

Seems it must be lack of knowledge, none of the reimplementations ever seem to bear fruit

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sphery:

Others--like me--say, "I looked at MythWeb code and realized that it was written by someone smarter than I, but I can still hack at the simple stuff or beg kormoc to change the complex things..."

[17:30:41]

iamlindoro:

What in the world is up with the "Gold Unicorn" guy on the wiki?

[17:30:54]

sphery:

iamlindoro: kind of like the honeybell tangelo I have...

[17:31:05]

kormoc:

:)

[17:31:05]

iamlindoro:

He's going through an linking various random terms to wikipedia

[17:31:10]

kormoc:

iamlindoro, that sounds very... odd

[17:31:23]

iamlindoro:

I mean, I *guess* someone might need a link to the wikipedia article on what a motherboard is?

[17:31:32]

iamlindoro:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki?title=Category:Mot . . . ;oldid=14866

[17:31:40]

iamlindoro:

He's made like 50+ edits today

[17:31:41]

wagnerrp:

yeah, i was going to make some comment about 'fanless' having nothing to do with a motherboard, and that 'fanless' systems are not ideal for mythtv

[17:31:46]

sphery:

iamlindoro: were you checking Recent Changes when you were traveling? that's when I did all my updates.

[17:31:56]

wagnerrp:

but then he removed the page

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sphery:

now I'm signing up for new accounts so you don't know it's me

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iamlindoro:

sphery: hehe

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wagnerrp:

im more confused with him wholesale editing pages just to move single points into mutliple points

[17:33:54]

sphery:

yeah, what's the point?

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** kormoc wonders if the pun was intended **

[17:34:23]

wagnerrp:

because the different processor architectures that are exactly the same must be on different lines

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iamlindoro:

RDV_Linux: Does Jamu also handle banner download for scheduled/recorded? Because that is also an eligible image type in Watch Recordings, I just don't happen to use it in Graphite

[17:44:07]

RDV_Linux:

iamlindoro: Yes, Only after completed the script did I release that Graphite did not use Banners on the Watched Recordings screen.

[17:44:22]

iamlindoro:

cool, good to have it there, though, so other themes can make use of it

[17:44:40]

RDV_Linux:

That is what I thought,

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iamlindoro:

If I write a second theme, I'll give greater thought to using all the stuff-- Writing graphite drove a lot of the patches I wrote while doing so-- now the stuff is done and not a moving target, so I can be more thoughtful about it

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sphery:

kormoc: something to think about--I hear wordpress has multi-user capabilities, so if you rewrote MythWeb, you could take advantage of them

[17:52:29]

kormoc:

Really?!?! Wow, that's *AWESOME*

[17:52:37]

iamlindoro:

I'm not sure how well it would work with the new python mythweb?

[17:52:59]

kormoc:

just have to write a php <-> python bridge!

[17:53:39]

meshe:

Joomla!

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sphery:

heh

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laga:

why has nobody suggested to rewrite mythweb in ruby on rails yet? i hear it makes you a rockstar programmer

[17:55:03]

sphery:

We could just fake it... Create a PHP page: <?php echo 'Application Error (Rails)' ?>

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iamlindoro:

hahaaha

[17:55:40]

sphery:

(disclaimer: all my knowledge of Rails is based on interaction with tmdb)

[17:56:10]

** iamlindoro prints out all his metadata and sticks it in a binder **

[17:56:18]

iamlindoro:

YAY CONVEENIENS!

[17:56:18]

sphery:

not even a rolodex?

[17:56:40]

iamlindoro:

I don't get that idea at all

[17:56:43]

SHADOW_V:

are you going to buy a tank to commute in next

[17:56:55]

iamlindoro:

so you're going to make a physical catalog to deicde what you want, only to have to find it in the digital version to use it?

[17:56:58]

kormoc:

SHADOW_V, They sell them at wallmart

[17:57:22]

SHADOW_V:

eh walmart

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iamlindoro:

pew pew

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** kormoc was quoting a song **

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sphery:

wonder whether it will be 1 page per title or a bunch... if the later, imagine the dead trees each time he gets a new movie

[17:59:33]

sphery:

(or for those who don't care about nursery-grown trees used as paper pulp, imagine the paper expenses)

[18:01:24]

wagnerrp:

but theyre 3x5 cards, so only a small amount of paper

[18:01:35]

sphery:

ahhh

[18:02:10]

iamlindoro:

still a ridiculous idea

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sphery:

yeah, a friend of mine did the opposite

[18:03:29]

iamlindoro:

If people learned to a)complete their metadata properly and b) use the filters screen, there would be no reason for such acrobatics

[18:04:10]

sphery:

didn't want all his movies on HDD (because--at the time--storage was relatively expensive), so he put "placeholders" in MythVideo which encoded (in the path) the location of the physical DVD in his collection and it popped up a dialog asking him to "Insert the DVD for <title> From <location> and press any key to continue."

[18:04:22]

SHADOW_V:

whats the news on a mythtv widget on a chumby

[18:04:41]

sphery:

now, some people are actually storing Blu-Ray rips on HDD, so DVD is nothing... :)

[18:04:58]

wagnerrp:

sphery: we kind-of have the rolodex thing

[18:05:15]

wagnerrp:

we have a little binder listing off the DVDs in the jukebox numerically and alphabetically

[18:05:32]

** kormoc can't help but think, too much time **

[18:05:41]

iamlindoro:

ISTR GreyFoxx had plans to make the sony changer work nicely in myth

[18:05:45]

sphery:

you do now--until grey foxx gets his jukebox support in :)

[18:06:00]

iamlindoro:

Mine is sitting in the corner of the living room ATM

[18:06:05]

wagnerrp:

na, this is just a discrete player, not a firewire-attached-rom

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sphery:

iamlindoro: did you ever look into replacing the drive with a Blu-Ray?

[18:06:38]

iamlindoro:

sphery: Haven't had a chance, maybe later in the year

[18:06:58]

wagnerrp:

i cant imagine that would work well

[18:06:59]

sphery:

yeah, with all your rips and without Myth support, doesn't make a lot of sense, yet

[18:07:54]

iamlindoro:

Maybe if myth .30 gets blu ray decode/menu support I'll figure something out :)

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sphery:

heh

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karatekickz:

is it possible to run the nightly svn for .22 via the package manager?

[18:13:43]

kormoc:

Are there nightly packages of trunk in your package manager?

[18:13:58]

iamlindoro:

Does the pope poop in the woods?

[18:15:23]

iamlindoro:

What kormoc is getting at is, for packages to show up in your package manager, someone/something must compile them and create them-- so if your packagers do so, you can do so... if they don't, you are on the hook to compile yourself

[18:15:38]

iamlindoro:

though updating trunk nightly willy nilly is an atrociously stupid idea

[18:16:48]

karatekickz:

well is .22 in any position to test ... ? i

[18:16:58]

sphery:

and if you're running trunk, you're still on the hook to read the -commits and -dev lists

[18:17:06]

kormoc:

It's especially hard to know given we don't even know what distro or package manager you are even asking about

[18:17:25]

karatekickz:

mythbuntu synaptic

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iamlindoro:

It's *always* testable, you just need to compile it yourself, follow dev and commits, and if you get a packaged version somewhere, get all tech support from them

[18:17:38]

sphery:

to find out a) what's changed since 0.21, b) the current status of trunk, c) what is known to not work, d) what bugs have already been reported

[18:17:57]

karatekickz:

I am fairly new to linux and really dont want compile myself...

[18:18:16]

iamlindoro:

If you're not able to compile it yourself, I would strongly discourage using trunk

[18:18:21]

sphery:

the stable -fixes branch (what's normally made available through the package manager) is the one to run

[18:18:24]

kormoc:

you likely don't want to run trunk then, as bug hunting tends to involve system traces and debuggers and things like that...

[18:18:27]

iamlindoro:

as that's the *least* of the issues you are likely to experience

[18:19:00]

sphery:

I run -fixes, but I still do coding for Myth (on a completely separate development system with trunk--which proves that -fixes is a better experience)

[18:19:04]

karatekickz:

I guess I am really looking forward to the new MythUI and skins... I am using myth for a back end only atm

[18:19:10]

SHADOW_V:

use .21-fixes

[18:19:13]

** iamlindoro wonders when we got skins **

[18:19:15]

laga:

sphery: proof by example? :)

[18:19:35]

meshe:

.21-fixes for me too

[18:19:37]

iamlindoro:

I hear Graphite makes your breakfast in the morning

[18:19:46]

** kormoc will hold iamlindoro to that **

[18:19:46]

meshe:

iamlindoro: cool feature!

[18:19:47]

SHADOW_V:

ouuu iamlindoro what kind

[18:19:52]

karatekickz:

so how is the new front end coming along ?

[18:19:53]

sphery:

laga: yeah, that kind of reads wrong--meant that seeing what's broken/not finished in trunk proves that -fixes is a better experience

[18:20:06]

iamlindoro:

Unfortunately, the breakfast is always a spam and anchovie omelette

[18:20:08]

laga:

sphery: ah :)

[18:20:16]

iamlindoro:

karatekickz: There is no new frontend

[18:20:17]

sphery:

SHADOW_V: It's Carbon Crunch cereal

[18:20:25]

SHADOW_V:

that does not sound apetising

[18:20:41]

kormoc:

iamlindoro, Yummy!

[18:20:53]

meshe:

sounds like an interesting mix of flavors

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** kormoc wouldn't actually eat it, just would sell tickets to the show **

[18:23:38]

karatekickz:

so are some of you using the new MythUI based front end ATM?

[18:23:41]

karatekickz:

.22

[18:23:49]

iamlindoro:

Again, there is no new frontend

[18:24:00]

iamlindoro:

Just the same old frontend with new improvements

[18:24:12]

iamlindoro:

Plus, there's no .22 yet either

[18:24:18]

iamlindoro:

but yes, various people here are using trunk

[18:24:37]

iamlindoro:

Which will ultimately become .22 in the murky future

[18:24:55]

sphery:

and there is no spoon, either

[18:25:05]

** iamlindoro bends sphery with his mind **

[18:25:12]

wagnerrp:

maybe, thats undecided

[18:25:40]

** sphery waits for MythSpoon **

[18:26:00]

karatekickz:

right so is the front end in a usable shape? I am currently using xbmc as the front end... and I am really hoping to get away from that as the new ui /skin look amazing

[18:26:13]

wagnerrp:

it could just as well be released as 'spunky spork'

[18:26:26]

sphery:

best bet is 0.21-fixes until 0.22 is released

[18:27:21]

sphery:

the UI in 0.21-fixes works great and--what it lacks in eye candy over xbmc--it more than makes up for in functionality (because it was designed specifically for mythtv, so don't take this personally xbmc folks)

[18:28:38]

** iamlindoro wonders if anyone has the video widget in their near-term queue **

[18:28:53]

sphery:

it may be put off 'til 0.23

[18:28:59]

kormoc:

2023~

[18:29:02]

kormoc:

*2023!

[18:29:12]

iamlindoro:

alas

[18:29:15]

sphery:

isn't that the release date for v. 0.23?

[18:29:42]

kormoc:

Works for me (tm)(r)

[18:30:08]

sphery:

it would give you more time to finish up the wp rewrite

[18:30:11]

GreyFoxx:

0.22.01.03.24.9 will be in 2014

[18:31:04]

** kormoc thinks we need more minor revisions **

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** iamlindoro is glad we don't use the "release every six months OR ELSE" approach **

[18:31:41]

AndyCap:

0.23 will be out in 2309

[18:31:45]

sphery:

<major>.<minor>.<point>.<point-less>?

[18:32:24]

SHADOW_V:

iamlindoro, or else what

[18:32:39]

iamlindoro:

or else the jaunty jackalope will chew on your testicles

[18:32:54]

SHADOW_V:

oh noes

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kormoc:

Major.Minor.Point.Subpoint.year.month.day.hour.minute.second.timeZone.svnRevisio n.buildAuthor.buildSystemVersion.BuildSystemMinorVersion.

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** kormoc stops before taking a hour to write it all out **

[18:33:07]

iamlindoro:

.releasegroup.torrent?

[18:33:11]

kormoc:

ha

[18:33:25]

janneg:

kormoc: .patch_count

[18:33:34]

kormoc:

Totally, can't believe I forgot that...

[18:34:26]

** sphery is still dreading the day when Ubuntu 9.10 is released **

[18:34:42]

sphery:

all the people talking about "Karmic"...

[18:34:46]

SHADOW_V:

yeah

[18:34:54]

SHADOW_V:

i was about to ask why then i membered

[18:35:07]

kormoc:

Karmic... That's /too/ similar to Kormoc for my tastes...

[18:35:16]

sphery:

lawsuit!

[18:35:30]

sphery:

I hear there's some money backing the 'buntu's

[18:35:34]

kormoc:

Hehe

[18:35:57]

kormoc:

2/3's similar is too similar for me!

[18:35:59]

AndyCap:

mr. Soyuzworth?

[18:36:08]

sphery:

heh

[18:36:26]

sphery:

hasn't heard that name, before, but very apropos

[18:37:45]

sphery:

gotta say, though, that using Koala for 9.10, which focuses on Eucalyptus, is really cool (regardless of whether cloud computing is really--meaning truly--cool)

[18:38:16]

iamlindoro:

I remain unconvinced that the cloud stuff will benefit me personally in the near future

[18:38:18]

kormoc:

Stoned Koala's looking at clouds are amusing imho

[18:38:54]

wagnerrp:

where did you see stoned koalas?

[18:38:55]

AndyCap:

Eucalyptus is an open-source system for implementing on-premise private and hybrid clouds using the hardware and software infrastructure that is in place, without modification

[18:39:03]

AndyCap:

certainly buzzwordcompliant

[18:39:03]

SHADOW_V:

i feel as if its a novice idea but its just a fancy name for a distributed platform

[18:39:07]

kormoc:

wagnerrp, why else would they be 'in the clouds'?

[18:39:09]

SHADOW_V:

but of course who am i

[18:39:21]

AndyCap:

of course, where's the cloud-enabled mythtranscode. :P

[18:39:45]

iamlindoro:

It'll be developed after someone actually takes an interest in the local version again ;)

[18:40:05]

** AndyCap is no fan of people promising to turn his datacenter into a cloud. **

[18:40:07]

sphery:

what about that cloud-based commflagger?

[18:40:08]

** iamlindoro throws a rock at #2077 **

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** wagnerrp doesnt understand how a cloud-based commflagger/transcoder would differ from the current jobqueue **

[18:40:52]

iamlindoro:

jpabq: How long did it take Hauppauge to turn around your HD-PVR, and when it happened, did you get a tracking #?

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AndyCap:

wagnerrp: sssh. there's no venture capital in saying the emperor is naked

[18:41:37]

sphery:

iamlindoro: so that trip away from us just to avoid being without your HD-PVR wasn't long enough

[18:42:08]

iamlindoro:

sphery: Evidently-- thankfully it's the fallback fallback fallback recorder

[18:42:08]

iamlindoro:

and HBO runs lots of True Blood reruns

[18:42:10]

** wagnerrp doesnt understand the advantage of clouds over batch systems that have been around on clusters for decades **

[18:42:24]

** kormoc wonders if anyone else is gonna work on/commit that auto-adjust zoom patch or if it's gonna miss 0.23 **

[18:42:24]

kormoc:

*0.22

[18:42:24]

iamlindoro:

so I can eventually get caught back up

[18:42:30]

SHADOW_V:

you def need one more fallback

[18:43:15]

janneg:

kormoc: it can definitively go in without vdpau decoder support

[18:44:07]

kormoc:

It's a little stale due to Mark K's changes, and I can't update it myself

[18:44:23]

kormoc:

no mythbox == no real development sadly

[18:45:01]

SHADOW_V:

kormoc, ill donate a p3 system to ya

[18:45:02]

iamlindoro:

kormoc doesn't like us any more

[18:45:03]

SHADOW_V:

;)

[18:45:10]

** kormoc laughs **

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sphery:

kormoc retribution

[18:46:56]

iamlindoro:

Think it might be time for a totally unnecessary backend closet redesign

[18:47:42]

iamlindoro:

Was thinking about punching a hole into the wall and mounting an AV rack, and having the user-servicable equipment facing out into the living room, leaving the backend and cable boxen/tuners in the closet behind them

[18:48:01]

SHADOW_V:

dont forget to wrap your hand

[18:48:20]

iamlindoro:

Was thinking of using my heat vision, or maybe my super breath

[18:48:45]

SHADOW_V:

of course what was i thinking

[18:49:03]

sphery:

don't use your foot: http://www.todaysbigfail.com/view/20080718

[18:49:08]

iamlindoro:

Wheeeee, more gold unicorn edits

[18:49:34]

AndyCap:

ah, the om nom nom fence

[18:49:35]

kormoc:

ha

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SHADOW_V:

hehehe

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AndyCap:

sphery: good to see some truth in advertising: http://www.ndpfencingcentre.co.uk/concrete.htm

[18:53:14]

kormoc:

I had no idea concrete could be so versatile!

[18:57:54]

wagnerrp:

sphery:that video has been around for a couple years

[19:00:02]

kormoc:

wagnerrp, why don't you make a newer, better one?

[19:05:36]

meshe:

you could do what one company i worked for did, their servers were so sensitive that they bought an airtight locking cabinet and put their servers and switches inside ;)

[19:06:13]

AndyCap:

meshe: then they bought new servers and a new cabinet?

[19:07:25]

** kormoc remembers the summer with the plastic wrapped rack **

[19:07:45]

meshe:

nah, the funny part is the airtight bit, the warped $1600 switches were quite amusing

[19:08:24]

meshe:

sorry, misread

[19:08:34]

meshe:

yeah, they bought a rack and new switches

[19:08:43]

meshe:

the servers somehow managed to survive

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kormoc:

We had to use a portable air conditioner to keep the rack cool and I have to stop in every 8 hours and empty the water catch, if I didn't the AC would turn off and the rack would overheat and boxes would go down...

[19:09:14]

kormoc:

every 8 hours.... for like two months...

[19:09:18]

meshe:

heh

[19:09:24]

kormoc:

that /sucked/

[19:09:28]

iamlindoro:

Good way to make sure you come to work on time

[19:09:36]

kormoc:

heh

[19:09:53]

kormoc:

I'd get massive amounts of pages shortly after the time if I didn't

[19:10:12]

kormoc:

actually, it was more like a month, not quite two...

[19:10:12]

meshe:

hopefully you didn't live too far away

[19:10:18]

kormoc:

20 minute drive or so

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jams:

guess there is no question why you don't work there anymore

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jblack:

if you had thought about it more, you would have siphoned to a bucket.

[19:14:20]

kormoc:

Nah, the water thing was part of the AC unit, I couldn't modify it, as it was a rental

[19:15:44]

jblack:

I use a coffee filter to siphon the water tray from my outside AC

[19:16:42]

AndyCap:

don't get too creative or the boss will think you're building a bong of some sort.

[19:17:03]

** iamlindoro punches MythWeather for having 13 screens **

[19:17:25]

jblack:

mythweather works for you?

[19:17:57]

iamlindoro:

yep

[19:18:27]

kormoc:

if by work you mean spends cpu cycles on something

[19:18:42]

iamlindoro:

whilst displaying that something :)

[19:18:51]

iamlindoro:

I personally prefer a window :)

[19:19:01]

meshe:

mine displays weather for some place

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meshe:

accuracy leaves something to be desired, but that's not mythweather's fault

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noii:

hi. I'm getting sporadic pops and clicks in mythmusic when playing audio. It seems to happen for some songs some of the time, and more when the visualization has started. I have only noticed this happening since upgrading to ubuntu jaunty. any ideas?

[19:34:47]

wagnerrp:

im disappointed that the source for radar imagery no longer exists... some TOS violation with scrapers?

[19:38:51]

jblack:

I am so sick and tired of cheap solar panel stories

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jpabq:

iamlindoro: I had to ask for a tracking #. It took 2.5 weeks total turn-around, but I sent mine to them via USPS Priority, so they had it in 3 days.

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iamlindoro:

jpabq: Cool, thanks

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timothy_jones:

iamlindoro, I have a small app that writes avi files, but until it's done, there is no index, so seeking is royal pita (slow). trying to see if I can do it same way as mythtv does

[19:47:30]

iamlindoro:

Probably not easily, myth does it by storing a relationship between byte offsets and frame numbers in the database

[19:47:40]

iamlindoro:

this is done by the recorder code

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timothy_jones:

iamlindoro, hmm... lemme run by you what I am trying to do. I might be able to do it in mythtv all the way:

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timothy_jones:

basically, I have a bunch of small pcs with hardware capture cards (DVD Xpress2) and 5 servers with samba shares where the recordings need to be saved. Possible to make them save to servers?

[19:51:20]

timothy_jones:

and then playback from several other pcs?

[19:51:46]

timothy_jones:

need to be able to play recordings while they are still recording

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timothy_jones:

iamlindoro, ^

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iamlindoro:

If linux supports your capture card, then you can set myth up to record to any directory you like, you would just locally mount the samba shares

[19:52:33]

iamlindoro:

and then you can play those files using a myth frontend or your media player of choice

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iamlindoro:

and yes, seeking would be possible in progress

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iamlindoro:

never heard of your capture device so can't say whether it works in linux, www.linuxtv.org

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timothy_jones:

iamlindoro, it works! It's based on go7007 chip and I have drivers for it

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timothy_jones:

iamlindoro, if I use player of choice (currently libxine) can be seeking work? what format does mythtv record? or need mythtv frontend for seeking

[19:55:36]

iamlindoro:

You would need myth to use myth seektables

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timothy_jones:

iamlindoro, thank you. what mythtv uses for backend to record files?

[19:57:59]

iamlindoro:

Myth doesn't "use" anything to record files, myth isn't a frontend to other tools, but a from-scratch application

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timothy_jones:

iamlindoro, my bad :) But it looks like I can utilize mythtv for my project. One important question: is possible to limit what users can see what files based on there logon?

[20:01:55]

iamlindoro:

no, myth has no multi-user support

[20:02:03]

iamlindoro:

though there is very very limited parental control

[20:02:08]

iamlindoro:

and you can password protect groups

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Shadow__X:

at times i wish there was an idiot mode that certain fe can delete recordngs they could just watch

[20:04:19]

timothy_jones:

iamlindoro, oh I see. Maybe I use mythtv backend for recording and make my own frontend for playback? (I already have, but need to change from xine to mythtv player) Is possible like that? Also is documentation on seeking? (You said is stored in database, right?)

[20:05:25]

iamlindoro:

timothy_jones: The documentation is the code itself and some doxygen, and the contents of the recordedseek table in mythconverg. Writing your own frontend sounds like a lot more work than simply improving myth's controls to the point that you would like, but that's up to you

[20:06:57]

juski:

12 lines of perl outta do it, apparently

[20:07:18]

juski:

I mean who needs GUIs anyway? ;)

[20:10:34]

timothy_jones:

thanks guys. thanks iamlindoro — you very helpful. I go read documentation, I am mean code now ;)

[20:11:18]

iamlindoro:

np, good luck

[20:11:28]

** timothy_jones remembers seeing several howtos on setting up mythtv :) **

[20:13:19]

juski:

you know how they say God loves a tryer? Well, I've tried very hard & still made no real progress. Variable width buttons, you fscking nemesis, you!

[20:14:08]

juski:

it sounded like such a simple premise to begin with, too

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meshe:

juski: variable width based on fanart? or aspect ratio/ resolution?

[20:15:30]

iamlindoro:

meshe: variable based on the length of a text string

[20:15:50]

kormoc:

Font's, they be cursed

[20:15:51]

meshe:

ahh

[20:16:06]

iamlindoro:

if you've seen graphite, then allowing each item in the horizontal menu to take up the correct width

[20:16:38]

iamlindoro:

Only thing I worry about with the variable width buttons is being able to correctly set the center point

[20:17:12]

juski:

figuring out the width of the text. not so bad. Parsing the xml. Not so bad. Working out positions of buttons. Not so bad. Meddling with parent/child objects.. arghhh!

[20:17:37]

juski:

iamlindoro: relatively minor details I think

[20:18:13]

juski:

from the VERBOSE I put in the code it looks to me for all the world like it's doing the textarea parsing after calculating the button positions. Like whut?

[20:18:32]

kormoc:

make sense to me...

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kormoc:

limit the text area size based on parent element size and then render into set limited space

[20:19:08]

kormoc:

just have the text call back to the parent asking for a resize?

[20:19:30]

** kormoc is pulling this all out of his butt btw **

[20:19:52]

juski:

erm.. that sounds too good to be true but prolly worth a try

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juski:

go for another look at mythuitext.cpp

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Thieh:

Question: I got an ATI Theater 650 Pro TV card (PCI). does anyone know what name should I modprobe it with (or do I need nonfree drivers for it)?

[20:22:15]

** kormoc thinks you should check linuxtv.org and if it's not there, get another card **

[20:22:54]

iamlindoro:

janneg: Some of the HD audio codecs will see some nice improvements from your sync too, like being able to parse the DTS core from DTS-HD MA tracks, and the MLP/TrueHD split and improvements on those tracks. Nice for us Blu ray/Hd-DVD users :)

[20:24:58]

laga:

s/users/THIEVES/ ;)

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juski:

damn. out of time. I'll have to look at this again tomorrow. kormoc – what you suggest may just be possible after all, I'll see what I can hack up

[20:25:32]

kormoc:

G'luck!

[20:25:41]

juski:

thanks. I'll need it :)

[20:25:51]

iamlindoro:

Heh, the blu ray thieves convert their stuff to audio tracks normal people can use, the fact that I have the original tracks is practically proof positive that I'm no thief ;)

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kormoc:

You're stealing from the junk food companies! You don't have to get up to change disks, thus getting slightly hungrier and eating twinkies to make up for all that extra work! There will be no more twinkies because of you... :(

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iamlindoro:

Good thing they were all made in 1962 then!

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janneg:

iamlindoro: I wasn't sure about that, reply if you think it's important

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gbee:

aac support too?

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gbee:

native I mean

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gbee:

but no LATM, no idea what that means for music :/

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iamlindoro:

janneg: Naw, just making conversation. I look forward to those things, anyway

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iamlindoro:

Think HE-AAC support is still pending too

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iamlindoro:

And last I checked the VAAPI stuff still didn't have H.264 support

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iamlindoro:

Not quite sure what happened to the guy working on the libav* VAAPI stuf, he seemed to just drop off the planet (though he remains logged in to IRC)

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juski:

blimmin eck, Lacie 500GB network drive for £35 at ASDA

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janneg:

committed

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janneg:

iamlindoro: now go hunting for tickets which should have been closed by [20979]

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iamlindoro:

heh

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janneg:

yes, HE-AAC is still missing and the VAAPI h264 is not complete, but I chatted last week with the VAAPI guy

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iamlindoro:

Oh, neat-- did it seem like he planned to push the rest through sometime soon?

[20:47:54]

iamlindoro:

Also curious about his XVBZ backend

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iamlindoro:

er XVBA

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janneg:

the problem with vaapi is that the official supported hardware is sparse

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janneg:

and the backends for vdpau and xvba are not public

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iamlindoro:

Yeah, I saw a small patch on his ftp site a few months back that looked like some changes for XVBA, wasn't sure what his arrangement (if any) was with AMD

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kormoc:

There /has/ to be a better way

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iamlindoro:

http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/en/about/blog

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iamlindoro:

some neat benchmarks there

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iamlindoro:

makes XVBA look at least as promising as VDPAU, and seems to indicate he has *some* inside knowledge of it

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SHADOW_V:

iamlindoro, can i daisy chain together 2 dch 3200 stb's

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iamlindoro:

should be able to, I have done so before-- may be limited by box firmware and firewire chipset

[21:08:26]

SHADOW_V:

ah ok because i believe i am switching to the triple paly and am going to get an addition stb and moar channels

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iamlindoro:

cool

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SHADOW_V:

trying to decide is hd premiwer is worth getting over hd plus

[21:10:18]

SHADOW_V:

thought i could find other ways to entertain myself before isave up and move out

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SHADOW_V:

iamlindoro, so why did you have to send the hdpvr back

[21:15:09]

iamlindoro:

SHADOW_V: I got one of the first units they made, before they added cooling the the encoder chip, so it would overheat and die on me at inconvenient moments

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iamlindoro:

A shame, but I figure I now get to trade it in for a unit that has all the kinks worked out, and will probably be a totally new unit

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SHADOW_V:

well atleast thats good hopefully hauppauge doesnt follow another company that likes to sell things that secound as furnaces

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iamlindoro:

The problems have actually been solved for a long time on current units, I just considered myself immune until it started happening to me

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SHADOW_V:

isnt that always the case

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iamlindoro:

speaking of which, still waiting on my free Dell $100 gift card so I can buy a second unit for very little :)

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SHADOW_V:

nice yeah they have been having sales on it

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iamlindoro:

Oh ugh

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iamlindoro:

SciFi is officially Syphillis now, isn't it?

[21:23:26]

SHADOW_V:

?

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iamlindoro:

http://www.scifi.com/

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iamlindoro:

Well that's *really* confusing

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iamlindoro:

way to use both brandings

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SHADOW_V:

why do they keep changing it there isnt a uniform branding scheme

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iamlindoro:

In theory there should be

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SHADOW_V:

also comcast is offering 200 bucks back if you signup for the triple play

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gbee:

janneg: are either re-running configure or a make clean recommended with the sync?

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SHADOW_V:

Sign up for the HD Plus Triple Play and get $200 cash back, plus three great products, including faster Internet for the low monthly price of only $119.99.

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SHADOW_V:

trying to figure out if even moar channels and 30/7 is worth the extra price bump

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gbee:

"_low_ price of $119.99"?

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janneg:

gbee: make distclean _and_ configure

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gbee:

janneg: ok, I'll mention that on the list

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gbee:

oh, guess that's for the whole bundle, not just the internet which is how I read it initially

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SHADOW_V:

gbee, yeah thats internet 20/4 cable with hbo and phone

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SHADOW_V:

for 150 its even more channels and 30/7

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gbee:

still pricey though, for TV – granted I'd pay an extra £10 a month for HD but my £30 for Cable/Phone/Internet does the job

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SHADOW_V:

30 a month?

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SHADOW_V:

how bad is your cable and internet

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gbee:

10/512k (upstream isn't great no matter who you are with here)

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gbee:

extra £10 would get me 20/1

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kormoc:

SHADOW_V, move to FIOS land

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gbee:

at that price the TV doesn't include all the premium movie channels/sport, but we're still talking about a few hundred channels

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SHADOW_V:

kormoc, eh problem with fios land is i have to spend what 200 a pop for each hdpvr and my qam tunners are close to useless

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iamlindoro:

gbee: Not that they're not self explanatory, but it might be worth adding the HD icons to the help screen

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kormoc:

$80 a month for 200 SD, 100 HD channels, 25/15, and $15 a month for my vonage == win

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gbee:

iamlindoro: good catch

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iamlindoro:

:)

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SHADOW_V:

atleast with comcast i have usefull qam channels and i can use firewire

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kormoc:

for an extra $35 a month, it doesn't take long to eat up the $200 per hdpvr...

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gbee:

seems I exaggerated the number of channels, just feels like hundreds ;)

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SHADOW_V:

true put if i have 3 hdpvr's i am sure i need a faster cpu also i cant get fios here

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gbee:

hardly matters since only a handful are ever worth watching

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SHADOW_V:

when i move i will see what i end up with

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SHADOW_V:

iamlindoro, do you atleast have more than a handfull of hd over there

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iamlindoro:

SD is obviously still the vast majority, but I guess around 40ish channels, maybe 50

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iamlindoro:

which is to say that I *get* 50, if I paid for all the premiums and adult channels it would probably me 20ish more

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iamlindoro:

s/me/be/

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gbee:

iamlindoro: how many do you actually watch?

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iamlindoro:

Of the HD ones? Maybe 12–15

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iamlindoro:

and probably 5 of the SD ones at most :)

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SHADOW_V:

i have something around 40 but i am still missing afew i finally got dicovery hd but still missig some also zap2it says i have more hd than my stb agrees with

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iamlindoro:

unfortunately they can bundle with impunity so to get the worthwhile channels you're sucked into buying expensive bundles

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SHADOW_V:

sadly enough

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SHADOW_V:

took em long enough to provide discovery hd history hd

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iamlindoro:

Think I watch the Food programming, most of the discovery brand channels, Sci Fi, HBO HD, Universal HD, and networks, and Comedy central and Fine Living on the SD side

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iamlindoro:

with a sprinkling of random programming on the others

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SHADOW_V:

i still no get science channel in hd or green in hd

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iamlindoro:

I get both, though I only watch Planet Green out of the two

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SHADOW_V:

i find myself recording off of planet green more consistently and only recording science channel every once in awhile

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anykey_:

gbee: any chance to get in that variable button width stuff for 0.22? do you still consider it?

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kormoc:

anykey_, juski's been working on that

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kormoc:

anykey_, although if you have patch(s) to implement it, I'm sure he'd be happy to hear it

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anykey_:

kormoc: I know, he struggled at the same thing I did

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kormoc:

anykey_, he was working on it this morning infact

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anykey_:

oh

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** anykey_ scrolls back **

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gbee:

*sigh* why are they giving us U.S. series which were cancelled after less than a single season?

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iamlindoro:

Which?

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kormoc:

So you don't like Firefly?

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gbee:

K-Ville

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iamlindoro:

Ick, not even good ones

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anykey_:

kormoc: guess I have to ask him how it went tomorrow evening then :-)

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wagnerrp:

k-ville?

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iamlindoro:

anykey_: Seems "not well" last time he mentioned

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anykey_:

I'm eager to convert my theme to XML, but...

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gbee:

iamlindoro: really? thought I might watch it all the same, because there ain't much else on TV right now

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iamlindoro:

gbee: By all means try it, It came across as a cheap "The Shield" clone to me

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gbee:

anykey_: I wouldn't wait on that one detail, better to get started so that you've got most of the work behind you

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gbee:

iamlindoro: hmm, well at least you didn't compare it to CSI :)

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iamlindoro:

heh

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iamlindoro:

two notches more believable than CSI at least

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gbee:

The Shield lost me at least a couple of series(seasons) before the end, all got too messy, still I watched it through to the end before my backend crashed and I missed the last ever episode ...

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anykey_:

gbee: it looks so crappy without that :p

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gbee:

anykey_: ok, well it's your theme :)

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gbee:

I look forward to seeing it this time next year

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iamlindoro:

Will definitely make Graphite's menu look nicer too, I look forward to it

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iamlindoro:

(at which point I'll probably rework the menu a bit)

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anykey_:

gbee: naw, you're right ;) I've already got the menu and watch recordings themed, so it's not that bad =)

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iamlindoro:

http://www.geektonic.com/2009/06/sage-moviewa . . . l-movie.html

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iamlindoro:

sage is really awful looking

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SHADOW_V1:

iamlindoro, i would venture to say its what i always wanted

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noii:

I was wondering whether anyone else was having audio playback glitches with mythmusic since upgrading to ubuntu jaunty?

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iamlindoro:

SHADOW_V1: Hope that's sarcasm ;)

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iamlindoro:

I think Matthew grant needs someone to explain the LATM/fmpeg-mt realities to him

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iamlindoro:

er ffmpeg

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gbee:

anyone else get the feeling we work for that guy?

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iamlindoro:

He seems to get that feeling ;)

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juski:

iamlindoro: looks like sagetv has only fixed width buttons too ;)

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iamlindoro:

juski: Hh

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iamlindoro:

er heh

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juski:

and possibly no text centreing :P

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iamlindoro:

juski: apparently the Sage design philosophy = FANART + Text in random spots = DONE

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iamlindoro:

oh, and using random font sizes too

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iamlindoro:

like "comedy" and "115 mins" next to each other in drastically different sizes

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juski:

looks like something I rushed out

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juski:

IMHO looks like some of the text is too small for a 10' interface too, but hey why should I care I don't use SageTV

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iamlindoro:

Also appears not to have a <preserveaspect> equivalent

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iamlindoro:

Squished fanart is icky

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juski:

ah, just remembered why setting the parent area size in mythuitext wasn't favoured. It'd be more advantageous to be able to base button size on other children too. Less limitations == more betterer

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kormoc:

Go Mr. Grant, telling us what's so easy and all that!

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kormoc:

juski, so can't hook in post child rendering?

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iamlindoro:

janneg, Don't know if it's in my head, but post-sync I am noting substantially faster playback startup. Nice stuff

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janneg:

iamlindoro: hmm, I haven't noticed it

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iamlindoro:

I might be crazy :)

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SHADOW_V1:

iamlindoro, yes it was sarcasm i am very excited for when your work see the light of day outside of your four walls

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iamlindoro:

SHADOW_V1, hrm? Lots of people using Graphite alreadt

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iamlindoro:

already

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SHADOW_V1:

oh ok well i am still on fixes and dont have a reason to run trunk yet so no reason to fuss with a working system

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iamlindoro:

yep

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SHADOW_V1:

if i wind up getting a hdpvr ill use it then i get to see how purdy it is

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iamlindoro:

.22 could be soonish, you never know

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SHADOW_V1:

yeah that would be great when i have my systems together again i wan tthings to look great with the fan art and all the info

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iamlindoro:

Anyone seem Public Enemies yet? I love Michael Mann, wondering if it's as good as his other stuff

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kormoc:

I heard it's basically a remake of 'Heat'

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iamlindoro:

Oh yeah? I adore Heat

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kormoc:

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iamlindoro:

heh

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kormoc:

So I guess you'll enjoy it ;)

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iamlindoro:

Mann and Wes Anderson and the two directors who I would basically see no matter what :)

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jams:

wife loved the movie, but Mr Depp probably had alot todo with it

[23:51:36]

jams:

personally i couldn't tell who was who in the story and could have walked out on it.

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kormoc:

So another vote for heat remake ;)

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iamlindoro:

heh, Heat is *great*, you're crazy ;)

[23:52:38]

kormoc:

I tried so hard to watch it from start to finish, I couldn't

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jams:

kormoc- your probably right. While I know that I have seen Heat. Couldn't tell you a thing about the movie

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iamlindoro:

BAH! :)

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jams:

hey i'm not saying it was good or bad, just don't remember it

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