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| [00:40:35] | beta2k: | Shadow__X: Found the issue with livetv |
| [00:40:53] | beta2k: | I wasn't passing -n or -g to 6200ch |
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| [02:28:16] | Buds: | hey everyone, i just set up my 1st mythtv box and its running great but iv ran into a problem with sound. Im running a DVI to HDMI out of my geforce 9800GTX, i went to frys and got a SPDIF cable and connected it to the motherboard and to my graphics card, but still no sound via tv speakers. |
| [02:29:06] | wagnerrp: | thats a bit excessive for a mythtv box |
| [02:29:27] | Buds: | lol yea its not just my myth box. |
| [02:30:04] | wagnerrp: | your DVI video card has audio inputs? |
| [02:30:04] | Buds: | but is there something i have to do on the software end to get the hdmi sound up and running? |
| [02:30:20] | Buds: | internally yes |
| [02:30:42] | Buds: | SPDIF goes from your gfx card to onboard sound and is supposed to allow sound via hdmi |
| [02:30:58] | Buds: | but i cant seem to get it working |
| [02:31:03] | wagnerrp: | but... you dont have a HDMI port |
| [02:31:10] | Buds: | dvi/hdmi cord |
| [02:31:27] | wagnerrp: | granted, single link DVI is very similar to HDMI |
| [02:32:39] | Buds: | well this is possible right? iv read a few tutorials on it. |
| [02:33:41] | wagnerrp: | if that is actually a SPDIF plug on your video card you are using, its possible |
| [02:34:02] | wagnerrp: | although ive never used digital audio, so i cant really advise on how to get it working |
| [02:34:20] | Buds: | yea, it is a 2 pin audio cable |
| [02:34:25] | Buds: | and i know my 9800 has it |
| [02:34:40] | Buds: | i was just thinking mabey im missing something in the mixer mabey? |
| [02:44:04] | Buds: | got it, it was muted by default in the mixer. |
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| [02:58:14] | lou314: | Could use some help with myth problem – I did some minor channel reconfiguration and now recorded shows are generating small nuv files instead my mpg files. |
| [02:59:04] | lou314: | I have rechecked all my configurations including transcoding, etc. and can find nothing that seems wrong. |
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| [04:02:45] | lou314__: | Happy 4th of July – off to fireworks. |
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| [06:12:57] | karatekickz: | is there any sites with updates on the .22 skins? |
| [06:17:04] | rooaus: | karatekickz: Unlikely as 0.22 hasn't been released and a substantial amount of what is being done for 0.22 is a UI rewrite. |
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| [06:23:49] | karatekickz: | is there a nightly build site for myth> |
| [06:23:50] | karatekickz: | ? |
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| [08:49:40] | k-man: | how do you get the virtual keboard up? I'm sure i used to just press enter and it would show up? |
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| [08:55:15] | DGnome: | Hi! Whats the status on dvb-s2 support in mythtv? |
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| [09:05:56] | k-man: | oh – never mind, i worked it out- virtual keyboard was turned off in the settings |
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| [11:16:20] | peterh: | Are there any HD Homerun users out there? |
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| [12:02:13] | juski: | afternoon gbee. you tried Quest yet? |
| [12:02:28] | juski: | getting blank recordings here – think I might have to rescan _again_ |
| [12:08:54] | juski: | ruh? no EPG data for the channel now. Did they chicken out of launching again? |
| [12:12:38] | juski: | no no no, they've not launched yet. Q4 this year they reckon. The EPG data appearing was a mistake. They're useless |
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| [12:14:50] | gbee: | juski: it's not broadcasting yet, EIT is just a test from what I can tell |
| [12:15:04] | gbee: | heh, ok you figured that out |
| [12:15:37] | gbee: | they are broadcasting a "Coming soon" mheg |
| [12:15:50] | stuarta: | wassat? |
| [12:15:53] | juski: | btw Blur are live on Absolute Radio from 5pm today :) |
| [12:16:00] | juski: | Quest, stuarta |
| [12:16:02] | stuarta: | oh and morning, er, afternoon |
| [12:16:28] | stuarta: | ah i remeber seing the eit data, and then being disappointed by the mheg :( |
| [12:16:57] | juski: | ah I've not bothered enabling mheg on my frontend |
| [12:18:39] | juski: | been disabled since I found it totally crippled the EPIA machine I used to use |
| [12:19:47] | juski: | hey, just realised there might actually be a *use* for all those #mythtv 'recording' & 'recorded' tweets on Twitter |
| [12:19:56] | juski: | the mythical recommendation system |
| [12:22:13] | stuarta: | i used the tv :) |
| [12:23:03] | juski: | we don't have 'live' freeview here yet. When I buy a new telly ... |
| [12:23:14] | stuarta: | not even a STB? |
| [12:23:19] | juski: | nope |
| [12:23:32] | stuarta: | ooo err... |
| [12:23:38] | juski: | cable STB is enough for when we CBA to get off the couch to power on the frontend |
| [12:24:23] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [12:30:09] | juski: | 3 boxes under the telly is quite enough anyway :) |
| [12:30:24] | juski: | oops. four including the wee |
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| [12:51:56] | Dibblah: | Our boxes are all behind the telly. |
| [12:52:03] | Dibblah: | In a cupboard. |
| [12:54:44] | juski: | might be something I made when we get a new tellybox |
| [12:55:14] | stuarta: | i'll be putting the backend in the garage in the new place |
| [12:55:22] | stuarta: | the fun part will be the wiring |
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| [13:03:28] | Dibblah: | If you do – Be very careful of ground loops. |
| [13:03:45] | Dibblah: | They can really ruin your day in terms of audio / video quality. |
| [13:04:38] | stuarta: | only wiring between them will be the cat5 |
| [13:09:05] | Dibblah: | You're powering off batteries? |
| [13:09:19] | stuarta: | nah, but in know what you mean |
| [13:09:21] | Dibblah: | Oh, right. Backend :) |
| [13:09:29] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [13:13:03] | stuarta: | Dibblah: i might have to point out the garage is part of the main house |
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| [14:38:16] | TUplink: | when playing a video in mythvideo i can pause. and exit.... when the movie starts... but like just now... i finished the movie and it wont do anything.... what could be causing this? |
| [14:38:54] | TUplink: | i have to wait till the movie finishes to go on? |
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| [14:59:22] | stuarta: | TUplink: you may have a bookmark at the end of the recording |
| [14:59:27] | stuarta: | try playing from the beginning |
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| [15:11:39] | gbee: | there is no play from beginning option in mythvideo |
| [15:12:20] | stuarta: | whoops |
| [15:16:04] | TUplink: | i can play it for the first time and it dose that |
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| [16:00:30] | Weaselweb: | hi |
| [16:00:53] | beta_: | Hello all |
| [16:01:41] | beta_: | Is there any sort of tweaks I can do to improve the quality of my video from my STB over firewire? |
| [16:01:54] | Weaselweb: | anyone also have the problem of the disappeared menu in mythfrontend? |
| [16:02:29] | Weaselweb: | i can sometimes restore it by running mythfrontend --reset, but after the 1st restart the menu is blank again |
| [16:02:33] | beta_: | Eg, can I change the data_speed in plugctl higher to get better performance? |
| [16:02:51] | beta_: | Weaselweb: Video driver issue? |
| [16:03:08] | Weaselweb: | beta_: dunno? how can I confirm this? |
| [16:03:49] | beta_: | I had to switch from a ATI 9200SE to a GeForce4 4200Ti to get menus in both frontend and backend |
| [16:04:25] | Weaselweb: | the driver itself works, X server starts and the background image (depending on the selected theme) is always displayed |
| [16:04:26] | beta_: | Try upgrading them, or switching to proprietary drivers if you're using a ATI or nvidia card |
| [16:04:51] | beta_: | thats how mine was, it was just mythfrontend/backend that didn't work |
| [16:05:07] | beta_: | I'm assuming other opengl programs would have also been broken |
| [16:05:15] | Weaselweb: | i'm using nvidia-180.60 which is the most recent one |
| [16:06:00] | beta_: | Me as well |
| [16:06:09] | beta_: | Weird :) |
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| [16:06:18] | beta_: | Try removing and reinstaling the themes? |
| [16:06:24] | beta_: | or changing themes |
| [16:07:05] | Weaselweb: | well they do work (sometimes after a config reset), but it doesn't work the next time the forntend is started again |
| [16:07:34] | beta_: | maybe it's a corrupt theme ? |
| [16:07:48] | GreyFoxx: | Weaselweb: Disable the OpenGL Painter? Use QT instead ? |
| [16:08:23] | Weaselweb: | GreyFoxx: i'm currently starting with this command:exec /usr/bin/mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt -l /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log -v important,general (from .xinitrc) |
| [16:08:32] | Weaselweb: | so i guess this must be qt anyway |
| [16:09:06] | beta_: | I'm running my nvidia card with the gl painter |
| [16:09:54] | GreyFoxx: | Weaselweb: Weird. The issue you describe sounds like a GL issue |
| [16:10:05] | GreyFoxx: | Never heard of anyone withthe QT painter runing into that |
| [16:10:34] | Weaselweb: | strange, any old "untouched" config that still forces opengl? |
| [16:10:42] | GreyFoxx: | Nope |
| [16:10:49] | GreyFoxx: | ThemePainter is the only setting |
| [16:13:07] | Weaselweb: | btw: after deleting the theme, i can see the progrss bars indicating the image scaling process. but after that there is no menu |
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| [16:18:57] | Weaselweb: | mh, could it be a problem of the window manager? |
| [16:26:34] | Weaselweb: | yeah, seems really to be a problem with evilwm |
| [16:27:03] | Weaselweb: | running startx without a .xinitrc (getting several xterms), mythfrontend runs correctly even with opengl |
| [16:27:16] | Weaselweb: | reenabling evilwm the menu doesn't show up again |
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| [16:38:04] | GreyFoxx: | crazy! |
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| [16:44:19] | Weaselweb: | GreyFoxx: even using fluxbox instead doesn't change enything |
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| [17:31:53] | Weaselweb: | GreyFoxx: i think i got a working solution for me |
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| [17:46:12] | wagnerrp: | beta_: there is no 'quality of video' with firewire, there is simply the data stream that the STB send you |
| [17:46:16] | wagnerrp: | you have no control over it |
| [17:46:50] | wagnerrp: | Weaselweb: is the 4200 still supported under the 180.x driver series? |
| [17:47:12] | Weaselweb: | wagnerrp: geforce 4 series? |
| [17:47:21] | wagnerrp: | i know my MX440 has to use the legacy drivers |
| [17:47:30] | wagnerrp: | 97.x i believe |
| [17:47:46] | Weaselweb: | wagnerrp: i don't think so, my geforce 5300 fx (mobile) isn't supported by 180.x |
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| [17:48:14] | wagnerrp: | oh, nevermind... that was beta_ saying he was using a TI 4200 |
| [17:48:17] | techqbert: | Is there any feasible way to stream over NFS/OpenVPN a 480p video on a consumer-grade comcast line withou tthe video stuttering? |
| [17:48:50] | wagnerrp: | techqbert: what is '480p video'? |
| [17:50:12] | wagnerrp: | specifically, i could have raw 480p at 25MB/s, or i could have some crappy, overly compressed flash 480p at 256kbps |
| [17:50:13] | techqbert: | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=480p |
| [17:50:19] | techqbert: | Ah |
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| [17:50:42] | wagnerrp: | resolution has nothing to do with anything |
| [17:50:49] | wagnerrp: | all you have to worry about is the bitrate of the video |
| [17:51:05] | wagnerrp: | and whether the bitrate of the video is greater than the bitrate of your upstream bandwidth |
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| [17:51:29] | wagnerrp: | realistically on a consumer connection, you probably dont want to be within 80% of your rated upstream |
| [17:51:39] | techqbert: | wagnerrp: Very illustrative and informative. |
| [17:52:12] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has the capacity to transcode video, so you could do that to drop bitrate |
| [17:52:24] | techqbert: | Is there any nice way to downsample videos and then stream them? |
| [17:52:25] | techqbert: | Ah |
| [17:52:37] | wagnerrp: | also, mythweb has a faculty for transcoding to flash video on-the-fly |
| [17:53:13] | wagnerrp: | also, you way want to check out sshfs, it will probably be bit less complicated than OpenVPN+NFS |
| [17:53:20] | techqbert: | Really! And I thought you AV guys would send me elsewhere but now I find mythtv has this sort of functionality. |
| [17:53:46] | techqbert: | I've toyed with both including sshfs -C (compression) but I haven't pinned them against eachother. |
| [17:54:50] | wagnerrp: | using compression on already compressed videos is next to worthless, especially with modern codecs which already have a lossless compression layer |
| [17:54:55] | techqbert: | All I got is an arch linux box with a via c7- think that's beefy enough for the quick transcode by mythweb? |
| [17:55:11] | wagnerrp: | very doubtful |
| [17:56:09] | stuarta: | doubtful? i'd say no |
| [17:56:23] | wagnerrp: | youre probably pushing that VIA box pretty hard just trying to decode 480p mpeg2 |
| [17:56:45] | wagnerrp: | by the way, these transcoding options are only available for recordings, not mythvideo |
| [17:58:10] | techqbert: | I see. Woudl the mythweb flash video transcoding afford me any bandwidth savings? |
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| [17:58:43] | wagnerrp: | the mythweb stuff usually outputs something less than 512kbps |
| [17:58:54] | wagnerrp: | its adjustable in the settings, but i forget what the default is |
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| [18:17:48] | techqbert: | wagnerrp: i'm jumping in and tinkering on arch linux. do i need mythtv-setup in order to get mythweb working? |
| [18:18:15] | techqbert: | (i have no schedules direct subscription or tuner card in this box) |
| [18:18:20] | wagnerrp: | mythweb only functions with a properly set up and running backend |
| [18:18:33] | wagnerrp: | the backend gets set up through mythtv-setup |
| [18:18:39] | techqbert: | right |
| [18:18:52] | techqbert: | agh tough |
| [18:19:10] | wagnerrp: | you can insert a dummy tuner, and run without listings data, to get mythbackend running |
| [18:19:12] | GreyFoxx: | They don;t need to be on the same box though if you have a seperate web server |
| [18:19:37] | wagnerrp: | right, mythfrontend, mythbackend, mysql, mythweb... are all connected over the network |
| [18:20:04] | wagnerrp: | they can be run on any machine sufficiently high network connection and proper firewall setup |
| [18:20:14] | wagnerrp: | they prefer not to be on opposite sides of a router |
| [18:20:58] | techqbert: | dummy tuner? like an old hauppage pvr150 or something? |
| [18:22:28] | wagnerrp: | yeah, add in a mpeg encoder card in mythtv-setup, and direct it to any mpeg2 file you have sitting on your hard drive |
| [18:22:45] | wagnerrp: | you do not need an actual hardware device |
| [18:23:24] | wagnerrp: | (i believe thats how you do it, ive never need to try myself) |
| [18:23:51] | techqbert: | i'll read up. thanks for the heads up |
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| [19:04:25] | Hilikus: | hey guys |
| [19:05:30] | Hilikus: | sometimes my mythtv records sound really noise. it happens in scheduled recording or livetv and seemengly at random. if its live tv you can just change channels and go back to the same channel and its fixed |
| [19:05:46] | Hilikus: | it sounds like when you encode audio in really really low bitrate |
| [19:06:11] | Hilikus: | but it's really hard to reproduce so i don't know how to test it. does anyone know what i'm talking about? |
| [19:06:34] | AndyCap: | Hilikus: had that happen on my saa7134 card because it was being stupid and trying to autodetect the audio carrier. but not on any other cards |
| [19:06:55] | Hilikus: | how can i check if mine is autodetecting? |
| [19:07:34] | AndyCap: | what card do you have? |
| [19:08:17] | Hilikus: | to play or recorde audio? |
| [19:08:28] | AndyCap: | tv tuner |
| [19:08:34] | Hilikus: | hauppauge 150 |
| [19:08:50] | AndyCap: | Hilikus: hmm, dunno then. |
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| [19:14:04] | Hilikus: | i don't even know how to describe the problem with the audio |
| [19:20:47] | juski: | they still not fixed that? |
| [19:21:26] | juski: | remember the TV series 'V'? the audio sounds like the 'Visitors' ;-) |
| [19:22:02] | ** stuarta waves to juski ** | |
| [19:23:41] | stuarta: | beer? |
| [19:25:44] | juski: | had a couple of cocktails already :D |
| [19:26:15] | stuarta: | nice |
| [19:26:42] | stuarta: | went and saw the house we are buying again yesterday |
| [19:26:51] | juski: | recreated the one my wife liked on holiday. They called it green paradise. I call it a shot of Blue Caracao, a shot of Malibu & pineapple juice. Few of them gets us on our way |
| [19:26:52] | stuarta: | very depressing not to be there sitting in the garden |
| [19:27:04] | juski: | woo |
| [19:27:13] | juski: | that'll keep yer nice & busy |
| [19:27:21] | stuarta: | bbq'n |
| [19:27:22] | stuarta: | :) |
| [19:27:58] | juski: | give the estate agent hell. I was on the phone to mine twice a day for about a fortnight & the sale wasn't complicated. Seller sold, no chain – and I bought |
| [19:28:15] | stuarta: | he's been very good. |
| [19:28:29] | stuarta: | it's now all the legal's that are taking their time |
| [19:28:42] | juski: | ah yeah those too |
| [19:29:01] | stuarta: | amazingly the back has done there bit...!!!! |
| [19:29:03] | juski: | oh wait, we didn't go through the agent in the end. It was the damn solicitor |
| [19:29:05] | stuarta: | bank |
| [19:30:09] | ** stuarta beats the new channel scanner with a big stick ** | |
| [19:30:28] | juski: | solicitor doing all the conveyancing contracted the property searches out & they sent them to me by mistake. Saw what it really costs. Shocking |
| [19:30:54] | stuarta: | i'll bet |
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| [19:34:30] | MrTweek_: | Hello |
| [19:34:43] | MrTweek_: | i have a prob with installing mythtv |
| [19:35:10] | MrTweek_: | when i make "./configure" |
| [19:36:06] | MrTweek_: | ErroR: Lame failed |
| [19:38:10] | juski: | you probably need to install the lame development stuff – headers etc |
| [19:38:19] | juski: | e.g. liblame-dev or whatever |
| [19:39:22] | juski: | you'll likely need to install the other dependencies for compiling myth too |
| [19:39:30] | juski: | there are many :) |
| [19:40:25] | MrTweek_: | i use slackware |
| [19:40:29] | MrTweek_: | ok.. |
| [19:41:31] | juski: | stuarta: so how long will it be before you can call it home d'you reckon? |
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| [19:45:27] | MrTweek_: | ok but when i compiling lame it says errors :( |
| [19:45:40] | MrTweek_: | Make[3] |
| [19:45:40] | MrTweek_: | ... |
| [19:47:04] | juski: | should people who don't know how to pull dependencies together even be using slack? |
| [19:48:09] | juski: | http://www.mnspace.net/articles/mythtv-slack12.1.html might help you |
| [19:48:34] | MrTweek_: | hmm |
| [19:48:40] | MrTweek_: | he says errors |
| [19:49:08] | MrTweek_: | but only for things like macos |
| [19:49:14] | MrTweek_: | dirs libs etc |
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| [19:49:33] | Buds: | hey everyone, i got my 1st mythtv set up yesterday and its running great, but there seems to be a line across the top of the screen that distorts the image (moves the top 1/4 of the screen about a pixel off) |
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| [19:50:53] | Buds: | it comes and goes randomly and moves up and down the screen |
| [19:51:13] | jams: | Buds- thats probably vbi data, there is an option to turn it off. Or adjust the overscan |
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| [19:51:35] | Buds: | ah okay, turn it off in the backend? |
| [19:51:43] | thedarkone: | has anyone in here ever used this mother board before msi g31m3-l v2 |
| [19:53:33] | stuarta: | juski: mid august |
| [19:53:35] | jams: | buds i dont' recall |
| [19:53:49] | Buds: | okay thanks ill google it :) |
| [19:54:01] | jams: | stuarta- going to post pictures of the house? |
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| [19:54:15] | stuarta: | jams: nope, i like my privacy |
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| [19:55:08] | jams: | can't argue with that |
| [19:55:36] | stuarta: | :) |
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| [19:58:08] | MrTweek_: | the compiling says alot of warnings :( |
| [19:58:17] | MrTweek_: | cant distribute.... |
| [19:58:23] | MrTweek_: | many times |
| [19:58:48] | kormoc: | Are you compiling with distcc? |
| [19:58:52] | Dagmar: | So go turn off ccache and distcc or ignore the warnings |
| [19:58:57] | MrTweek_: | yes |
| [19:59:05] | MrTweek_: | ok |
| [19:59:05] | kormoc: | so turn it off or fix it? |
| [19:59:22] | MrTweek_: | i ignore it |
| [19:59:27] | MrTweek_: | how can i turn it of? |
| [19:59:42] | kormoc: | The Google Knows |
| [20:01:38] | Buds: | jams: my VBI was set to none |
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| [20:02:31] | cityLights1: | hi |
| [20:02:45] | cityLights1: | is anyone following the tour de france? |
| [20:02:46] | MrTweek_: | what does distcc do? |
| [20:02:53] | cityLights1: | I got a question about lirc |
| [20:02:56] | MrTweek_: | i not |
| [20:03:27] | cityLights1: | distcc allows to a compilation on a remote pc |
| [20:03:42] | cityLights1: | source is sent over the network |
| [20:03:56] | ** stuarta wonders what lirc and the tour de france have in common ** | |
| [20:04:55] | MrTweek_: | ah :) |
| [20:05:20] | cityLights1: | can I have the remote send commands ONLY to mythtv all the time |
| [20:05:31] | kormoc: | Why would you install it/use it if you don't know what it is? |
| [20:05:38] | cityLights1: | so lirc can't send command to other applications? |
| [20:06:36] | cityLights1: | tour de france: when can I see an actual time trial? |
| [20:07:05] | kormoc: | Yes, see the application bit of the lircrc config file |
| [20:07:09] | kormoc: | it's all covered in the lirc docs |
| [20:07:21] | kormoc: | why not google for tour de france info? |
| [20:07:23] | cityLights1: | man lircrc? |
| [20:07:30] | kormoc: | lirc.org |
| [20:07:32] | cityLights1: | I did google |
| [20:07:34] | kormoc: | under setup |
| [20:08:00] | cityLights1: | thanks |
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| [20:11:20] | Aelobin: | i'm getting choppy playback |
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| [20:15:11] | juski: | I'm getting a pony |
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| [20:16:45] | Dibblah: | Lucky you. |
| [20:17:10] | kormoc: | That was awesome, join, make statement, leave |
| [20:17:34] | jblack: | Just wanted to keep us up to date? :) |
| [20:17:57] | stuarta: | gone to buy a pony? |
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| [20:20:00] | MrTweek_: | ok and how can i start mythtv? |
| [20:20:08] | MrTweek_: | its done with compiling |
| [20:20:23] | kormoc: | MrTweek_, you have a lot of work left, you'll need to read the docs, it's not as simple as just running it |
| [20:21:00] | MrTweek_: | aha |
| [20:23:02] | Dagmar: | If you don't read the install docs carefully you will fail. |
| [20:23:06] | Dagmar: | ...and then everyone will laugh at you. |
| [20:23:14] | Dagmar: | ...even your hamster. |
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| [20:23:40] | SHADOW_V: | i concur |
| [20:23:57] | SHADOW_V: | rtfm isnt something you say its a way of life |
| [20:23:57] | ** kormoc waits for failure ** | |
| [20:24:00] | stuarta: | my last hampster died of laughter |
| [20:24:06] | SHADOW_V: | these young people now a days |
| [20:27:05] | MrTweek_: | where can i find the docs? |
| [20:28:53] | kormoc: | mythtv.org |
| [20:32:06] | MrTweek_: | ok |
| [20:33:20] | MrTweek_: | ou have to create a file for mythtv for databse connections ~mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
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| [20:33:33] | MrTweek_: | but where???? |
| [20:33:49] | kormoc: | But where is what? |
| [20:33:51] | stuarta: | you just said where |
| [20:33:52] | MrTweek_: | in root? |
| [20:34:10] | kormoc: | MrTweek_, There is a #mythtv-de btw, they might be able to help you better |
| [20:34:10] | MrTweek_: | where must i create the file? |
| [20:35:43] | gbee: | janneg: adapter_nr isn't working for me, what am I missing? "options dvb-usb-dib0700 force_lna_activation=1 adapter_nr=0,1" but they are being assigned 0+2, 1 is going to the dvb-s card |
| [20:35:59] | MrTweek_: | ok :( |
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| [20:36:31] | stuarta: | gbee: you have to reboot after setting that unfortunately |
| [20:37:53] | gbee: | stuarta: aye, obviously :) |
| [20:38:27] | stuarta: | i was used to just reloading modules and having things works |
| [20:38:37] | janneg: | gbee: try adapter_nr=1,2 |
| [20:38:43] | stuarta: | sadly in this case linux is behaving like windows |
| [20:38:46] | janneg: | or set it for the dvb-s card too |
| [20:39:37] | janneg: | it's only a preference, it won't help if the adapter numbers are already taken |
| [20:40:15] | superdump: | why does one need to specify the adapters? |
| [20:40:30] | ** superdump has a wintv nova-td 500 pci card ** | |
| [20:41:03] | stuarta: | in my case it was because the usb stick when in warm state would be 0,1 with dvb-s 2 |
| [20:41:04] | janneg: | superdump: only if you have more than one card |
| [20:41:12] | superdump: | ah |
| [20:41:21] | stuarta: | in the cold state it would be 0,2 and dvb-s 1 |
| [20:41:26] | stuarta: | nasty |
| [20:41:27] | gbee: | superdump: myth identifies cards by the adapter number, if they keep switching your backend will break |
| [20:41:44] | superdump: | mmm |
| [20:42:09] | stuarta: | on day we might keep info from the devices themselves and follow that automagically |
| [20:42:16] | superdump: | does matthew grant hang around on irc? |
| [20:42:30] | gbee: | stuarta: can't happen too soon |
| [20:43:04] | stuarta: | aye, but like many many things, nobody has taken/had the time to write a patch |
| [20:44:33] | cityLights1: | stuarta: so I should setup a mode in lircrc to do what Iasked? |
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| [20:49:47] | kormoc: | superdump, I doubt anyone knows who he is even if he did |
| [20:49:57] | superdump: | oh |
| [20:50:07] | superdump: | so he's not a regular dev? |
| [20:50:27] | kormoc: | superdump, no, he's just some random stranger who decided to take matters into his own hands and arrange sprints |
| [20:50:27] | janneg: | no |
| [20:50:30] | superdump: | i got the impression he was from the message he sent to the mailing list |
| [20:50:38] | superdump: | oh,ok |
| [20:50:40] | kormoc: | People like to pretend they are... |
| [20:51:51] | gbee: | or give that impression |
| [20:52:08] | superdump: | i sent him an e-mail because finishing off HE AAC in FFmpeg, getting ffmpeg-mt merged into trunk and making a norwegian mpeg-ts dvb stream work in ffmpeg/mythtv are next on my agenda |
| [20:52:16] | janneg: | I can't even remember I've seen his name before this week |
| [20:52:43] | Dibblah: | He's not got a single post on -users before his announcement, which is somewhat odd. |
| [20:52:44] | superdump: | i thought it would be good to collaborate if he had something to contribute |
| [20:52:57] | superdump: | fair enough |
| [20:53:09] | janneg: | superdump: that's the issue with with the norwegian mpeg-ts dvb stream? |
| [20:53:22] | janneg: | just latm? |
| [20:53:26] | gbee: | mt2060 I2C read failed << Really disappointed to see that problem back again, been hitting me all week long, takes a power cycle to fix |
| [20:53:26] | superdump: | i'll have to check, but i think it was some demuxing issue |
| [20:53:41] | kormoc: | First post he ever did to a myth mailing list was jine 28th on the proposal to update ffmpeg for 0.21-fixes |
| [20:53:48] | kormoc: | Go gossamer threads |
| [20:53:54] | superdump: | i know about latm and i think it was something wrong with the ffmpeg mpeg-ts demuxer too and the behaviour was similar in myth |
| [20:53:55] | gbee: | driver seems unable to detect that firmware has already been loaded if you reload the module, so that fails |
| [20:53:57] | janneg: | gbee: do you use the the remote control |
| [20:54:01] | gbee: | janneg: no |
| [20:54:31] | gbee: | no active EIT either, will happen within seconds of the backend starting up after a reboot too |
| [20:54:37] | janneg: | gbee: options dvb-usb disable_rc_polling=1 should fix the issue for now then |
| [20:55:06] | gbee: | janneg: thanks, I'll give that a try |
| [20:55:12] | superdump: | i was finding that my tuners would fall asleep and not wake up again |
| [20:55:23] | superdump: | so i turned autosuspend off |
| [20:56:12] | Dagmar: | Distro problem |
| [20:56:30] | Dagmar: | *Probably* insoluble |
| [20:56:35] | superdump: | Dagmar: was that to me or...? |
| [20:56:40] | Dagmar: | To you. |
| [20:56:54] | Dagmar: | Problem #1. USB devices think the host has gone away when you suspent |
| [20:56:57] | Dagmar: | er suspend |
| [20:57:05] | superdump: | i'm using debian unstable at the moment |
| [20:57:18] | superdump: | i do have a vanilla 2.6.30 i compiled |
| [20:57:26] | superdump: | though i'm using the debian one at the moment |
| [20:57:35] | Dagmar: | Problem #2: Some distros actually realize they need to reinitialize the USB subsystem to wake all those devices back up when you return from suspend mode, but not all |
| [20:57:59] | Dagmar: | Problem #3: You MAY even need to restart mythbackend when you come out of suspend, so that it can do any high level settings on the tuner cards |
| [20:58:03] | janneg: | superdump: demuxing is bad, mythtv's ts demuxer is so out of sync that I decided to start from scratch |
| [20:58:25] | Dibblah: | Dagmar: #2 is udev's responsibility. |
| [20:58:38] | Dagmar: | All three of those problems together spells F-A-I-L, but you can probably hack around them if you try |
| [20:58:52] | Dagmar: | Dibblah: Yep, but I'm not sure it knows that |
| [20:58:58] | Dagmar: | :) |
| [20:59:26] | superdump: | janneg: was myth using a modified ffmpeg mpegts demuxer? |
| [20:59:38] | cityLights1: | sorry, I dont understand how to prevent lirc from sending commands to other applications |
| [21:00:09] | cityLights1: | when the mouse in on the browser , the remote keys control the browser |
| [21:00:13] | janneg: | superdump: it is |
| [21:00:20] | cityLights1: | I want it to only send commands to myth |
| [21:00:25] | cityLights1: | I read the lirc page |
| [21:00:33] | kormoc: | cityLights1, setup the lirc to be application specific rather then sending key presses |
| [21:00:48] | cityLights1: | ok, let me see how |
| [21:01:51] | janneg: | superdump: http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1484979 |
| [21:01:53] | superdump: | janneg: hmm, interesting considering how bad some ffmpeg devs seem to think it is and how it hasn't been developed to support all new ts extensions and stuff |
| [21:02:50] | janneg: | superdump: it's not better than the original |
| [21:02:55] | superdump: | against trunk? |
| [21:03:45] | janneg: | yes |
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| [21:04:07] | superdump: | when did you last sync? iirc baptiste did a bunch of work on mpeg-ts earlier this year |
| [21:05:33] | janneg: | 19327 |
| [21:06:14] | janneg: | a couple of the lines are probably just sync issues |
| [21:07:02] | gbee: | superdump: ffmpeg devs think *their* ts-demuxer is bad, or mythtv's ts-demuxer was bad? |
| [21:07:10] | superdump: | the ffmpeg one |
| [21:07:26] | superdump: | mans wanted to replace it with one he'd written externally |
| [21:07:47] | gbee: | ah, well yeah, whole reason we're using a modified one is because the original was hopelessly broken with most real-world streams |
| [21:08:22] | gbee: | and they weren't accepting the patches we pushed upstream (probably because those were hacks, but still) |
| [21:08:56] | superdump: | yup, i understand |
| [21:09:20] | superdump: | mans isn't maintaining mpeg-ts anymore |
| [21:09:22] | superdump: | baptiste is |
| [21:09:53] | superdump: | i think baptiste will be more receptive to supporting newer extensions for h.264 and such |
| [21:10:12] | superdump: | mans seemed like he didn't really realise he was maintainer of it |
| [21:10:14] | ** superdump shrugs ** | |
| [21:10:46] | superdump: | baptiste likes supporting things which are professionally used |
| [21:11:00] | superdump: | so blu ray and dvb are on his list i'm sure :) |
| [21:12:55] | superdump: | what does your modified demuxer support? |
| [21:14:05] | janneg: | main change it that it has callback for stream changes |
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| [21:16:04] | superdump: | i see |
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| [21:49:05] | janneg: | superdump: I've a patch for integrating ffmpeg-mt into mythtv, going to test it now |
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| [22:04:43] | TTxT: | anyone can help me? |
| [22:05:03] | TTxT: | im developing a plugin |
| [22:05:33] | TTxT: | and I cannot change the position of the text in a button |
| [22:05:46] | TTxT: | im using mythtv 0.21 |
| [22:06:32] | TTxT: | anyone? |
| [22:07:06] | superdump: | janneg: i'll test it too if you like :) |
| [22:09:24] | janneg: | superdump: already tested, breaks completely with h264 |
| [22:10:10] | superdump: | marvellous |
| [22:10:36] | superdump: | any idea why? |
| [22:11:14] | superdump: | maybe test some dumped streams with ffmpeg-mt first? |
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| [22:21:01] | TTxT: | anyone can help me? |
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| [22:34:29] | SHADOW_V: | TTxT, have you looked at the mythtv wiki |
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| [22:50:06] | rnd: | evening gents |
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| [22:51:05] | rnd: | if I want to run a seperate machine utilizing myth-frontend to watch tv over the network to a back-end server and im using irblaster from another frontend on the backends box, can i use irblaster or something remotely to change channels? |
| [22:51:37] | rnd: | that was long.. ie, can i change digital channels on a set-top box remotely from another front end box over the network in anyones experience? |
| [22:51:59] | tank-man: | they are networked, you can do anything |
| [22:52:15] | rnd: | hm. true, should've seen that coming. |
| [22:52:39] | rnd: | is there a mythtv standard, or any kind of standard that has been setup to allow that to be setup in a subjectively time efficient manner? |
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| [22:53:43] | tank-man: | you want to change channels on your 2nd frontend? |
| [22:54:00] | tank-man: | you can do that with the keyboard |
| [22:54:08] | rnd: | okay, great. |
| [22:54:23] | rnd: | and i can configure that to coordinate with irblaster? |
| [22:55:09] | tank-man: | yes, your backedn with change channels |
| [22:55:26] | rnd: | alright, great. |
| [22:55:38] | rnd: | thanks, just trying to plan accordingly before i upgrade the network |
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| [23:41:38] | thedarkone: | hey all |
| [23:48:27] | SHADOW_V: | hello |
| [23:48:35] | SHADOW_V: | is iamlindoro alive once again |
| [23:48:38] | SHADOW_V: | !seen iamlindoro |
| [23:48:38] | MythLogBot: | iamlindoro is here and has been idle for 12 hours 39 minutes 12 seconds |
| [23:48:47] | SHADOW_V: | hmm alright i guess he needs time away |
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