| Saturday, June 27th, 2009, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:07] | dustybin: | i have a _strange_ problem |
| [00:00:23] | dustybin: | i delete a recording on mythweb, refresh the page, and the recording comes back |
| [00:00:26] | dustybin: | O_o |
| [00:02:07] | iamlindoro: | This common problem, like most/all common problems, can be solved by day-one-myth-user troubleshooting tactics like reading the logs |
| [00:04:02] | dustybin: | 2009-06–27 01:03:42.189 ERROR when trying to delete file: /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/wizbox/9261_20090602224600.mpg. File doesn't exist. |
| [00:04:25] | iamlindoro: | So there you go |
| [00:04:31] | iamlindoro: | fix it |
| [00:04:45] | dustybin: | i need the remove orphans script? |
| [00:05:05] | iamlindoro: | There are many ways of solving the problem, use what critical thinking faculties you possess |
| [00:05:16] | dustybin: | o_O |
| [00:05:22] | dustybin: | i could touch the file |
| [00:05:26] | dustybin: | so it thinks its deleted it! |
| [00:05:39] | ** dustybin trys ** | |
| [00:05:55] | iamlindoro: | That's the kind of thinking that will give people the impression you've been around longer than five seconds |
| [00:05:58] | iamlindoro: | don't sprain anything |
| [00:08:51] | dustybin: | jeeze this is tedious |
| [00:08:58] | dustybin: | i have too many recordings what will not delete |
| [00:09:09] | dustybin: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Myth.find_orphans.pl |
| [00:09:43] | iamlindoro: | This is the price you may for having deleted them from the command line |
| [00:09:47] | iamlindoro: | er you pay |
| [00:10:02] | iamlindoro: | and the find orphans script should be avoided for numerous reasons |
| [00:10:16] | dustybin: | i honestly didnt delete anything from the command lne |
| [00:10:19] | dustybin: | i would never do that |
| [00:10:33] | iamlindoro: | myth disagrees |
| [00:10:40] | dustybin: | odd |
| [00:11:14] | dustybin: | i tried deleting from the frontend groups > delete group |
| [00:11:20] | dustybin: | and also mythweb at the same time |
| [00:11:25] | dustybin: | so maybe there was some kind of conflic |
| [00:11:46] | dustybin: | im doomed :-( |
| [00:12:23] | dustybin: | where is clever when you need him |
| [00:12:38] | iamlindoro: | You lost me at "needing clever" |
| [00:15:15] | dustybin: | this is a nightmare :-( |
| [00:19:40] | dustybin: | i think i have done it via touching |
| [00:19:45] | ** dustybin touches iamlindoro :P ** | |
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| [00:20:48] | dustybin: | i have 2 spare boxes in the corner |
| [00:20:55] | dustybin: | what shall i use them for.... |
| [00:21:10] | dustybin: | one will be my future hd multimedia server |
| [00:21:37] | dustybin: | and the other will be my test box, LFS > Slackware > Centos |
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| [00:45:47] | FinnTux: | what if I want manually delete a recording. is it just a matter of removing the mpg file and the row from the DB? |
| [00:47:22] | FinnTux: | ie. only mythconverg.recorded table needs to be modified? |
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| [00:53:08] | jpabq: | FinnTux: you would also need to cleanup the recorededseek and recordedmarkup tables |
| [00:53:37] | FinnTux: | jpabq, ah right. thanks |
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| [00:55:27] | FinnTux: | is there a tool to do a "mass delete operation"? I have 123 episodes of a certain show I'd like to remove quickly |
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| [00:56:25] | mzb: | easy in the fronted => add group to playlist, delete playlist |
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| [01:36:47] | FinnTux: | thanks mzb, that was it |
| [01:38:21] | mzb: | np |
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| [01:53:27] | amrx: | hvr-1800 + timewarner = ATSC/QAM channels (HD Channels) ? |
| [02:03:05] | cesman: | amrx: getting anything via QAM is _HIGHLY_ dependent on your location and provider |
| [02:04:02] | cesman: | amrx: and if you do get anything odds are, it will only be the broadcast channels (networks, pbs, independents...) |
| [02:04:08] | amrx: | If my TV's internal tuner can grab some HD channels, does that mean that my hvr-1800 should be able to get them? |
| [02:06:49] | cesman: | I cannot tell you about the capabilities of the hvr-1800 |
| [02:08:30] | hachi: | when a 'user defined job' on a program is running... is that program 'locked' in some way? |
| [02:08:57] | hachi: | I'd like to either prevent deletes, or delay them till the job is done |
| [02:09:21] | hachi: | because a delete on the program while it's running will land me with some lost disk space to files that mythtv doesn't know about |
| [02:10:46] | clever: | modify the inuse table |
| [02:10:55] | hachi: | okay |
| [02:11:11] | hachi: | thanks for the input |
| [02:11:16] | clever: | inuseprograms |
| [02:11:48] | clever: | just start something like transcoding or flagging and then run a select on there |
| [02:11:57] | clever: | and remember to clean up after yourself after your done |
| [02:12:07] | hachi: | this helps a lot |
| [02:12:08] | hachi: | thanks |
| [02:12:28] | hachi: | er |
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| [02:29:40] | sphery_: | the inuseprograms table should already contain info about all programs that are, er, in use by Myth |
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| [02:31:15] | iamlindoro: | including those you pass to your own user jobs |
| [02:34:32] | sphery: | yep |
| [02:36:20] | sphery: | speaking of user jobs, http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Jobs is a beautiful wiki page--complete with the "sure, go ahead and just edit the database data directly" instructions |
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| [02:55:49] | tmkt: | not sure what I did, but all of a sudden my digital sound passthrough sounds are coming out weird |
| [02:56:16] | gh0st: | hello guys, i've botched no less than 12 installs of mythtv, both built and from repos (ubuntu 9.04) and was wondering how do i completely "nuke" all settings and history that it even existed, because no matter how many times i re-install, i can NEVER get access to the mysql server, even when i set no pass. Ive heard of some compat. issues with amarok, so i uninstalled that as well, for my front-end, im just going to use mythbuntu, but |
| [02:56:16] | gh0st: | for my back-end, thats not an option. any help would be amazing!! |
| [02:56:38] | ajh: | How is the hd-pvr support (model 1212) coming these days? Need that to bring my back-end back up. |
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| [02:57:17] | kormoc: | ajh, still trunk only |
| [02:57:31] | ajh: | wow, must be tricky? |
| [02:57:49] | ajh: | is trunk generally usable these days? |
| [02:58:46] | ajh: | With the Symposium in a couple weeks I do not really have time to make it work yet, probably early August. |
| [02:58:59] | jpabq: | ajh: hd-pvr is actually pretty stable. But, required DB changes, so will not be backported. So, if you want to use it, you have to use trunk or wait for the next release. |
| [02:59:11] | wagnerrp: | i tried using it the other week |
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| [02:59:19] | wagnerrp: | the horror... oh god the horror! |
| [02:59:30] | ajh: | I do not mind upgrading if it is somethign that will work at least as reliably as the sasc stuff was while it worked :) |
| [03:00:36] | jpabq: | trunk mythbackend is stable. trunk mythfrontend is in flux. |
| [03:00:40] | gh0st: | i know nobody really likes dealing with my "noob" question, but if anyone has any advice, it would be appreciated. also, i promise to give back, in the form of a "complete idiot" tutorial, so you no longer need to deal with people like me, sound good? lol |
| [03:00:48] | ajh: | will they cross? |
| [03:01:33] | wagnerrp: | gh0st: cant help you... |
| [03:01:35] | jpabq: | ajh: no |
| [03:01:43] | wagnerrp: | ... if you dont ask your question |
| [03:01:50] | ajh: | hrm, that kinda sucks means building the macos trunk frontend |
| [03:02:20] | ajh: | any hint on a release goal? :) |
| [03:02:28] | ajh: | Christmas? :) |
| [03:04:05] | wagnerrp: | ah, seems you did ask your question |
| [03:04:38] | wagnerrp: | what are you doing to try to access the database? |
| [03:05:37] | gh0st: | im trying to access mysql |
| [03:05:52] | gh0st: | tmkt is trying to help me out as well :) |
| [03:06:49] | wagnerrp: | by default, most linux distros set mysql to only be accessible from the local machine |
| [03:06:57] | wagnerrp: | if you are using over the network, you must correct that |
| [03:07:20] | wagnerrp: | aside from that, just do the standard mysql permissions grant, and then give mythtv the info |
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| [03:07:32] | gh0st: | but i think there are some left-over config/garbage files because after i apt-get remove, then autoremove, then remove ~/.mythtv, i still get no access to root@MYSQL, or mythtv@mysql |
| [03:07:40] | gh0st: | im working on the same machine for now |
| [03:07:47] | gh0st: | until i figure this out better |
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| [03:08:04] | wagnerrp: | the only thing myth keeps around is the file telling it how to access the database |
| [03:08:11] | wagnerrp: | all other information is stored in the database |
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| [03:09:27] | gh0st: | hmmmm. im kinda at a loss for opinion, or anything, usually im never this stumped, i know ubuntu fairly well, so its not a *nix noob issue, i just have no idea how mysql and databases funtion |
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| [03:09:38] | gh0st: | function* |
| [03:09:51] | wagnerrp: | do you understand that linux users and mysql users are completely independent? |
| [03:10:19] | gh0st: | yes, i understand |
| [03:10:48] | wagnerrp: | and you did a 'grant all on mythconverg.* at....'? |
| [03:10:52] | gh0st: | ive quadruple-checked that groups/permissions/users were corect |
| [03:11:00] | wagnerrp: | what groups? |
| [03:11:40] | gh0st: | to make sure the active user is under the mythtv group, also, when you install from repos, it offers to do this |
| [03:11:48] | gh0st: | for you* |
| [03:11:55] | kormoc: | gh0st, that has nothing to do with the mysql access |
| [03:12:01] | wagnerrp: | irrelevant to mysql |
| [03:12:11] | tmkt: | username/password for mysql is in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [03:12:11] | wagnerrp: | mysql and linux users and groups are completely independent |
| [03:12:25] | wagnerrp: | tmkt: absolutely not true |
| [03:12:45] | tmkt: | no? |
| [03:12:47] | tmkt: | ah |
| [03:12:47] | wagnerrp: | the username/password for mysql is in ~/.mythtv/config.xml, unless you specify a different location on the command line |
| [03:13:04] | tmkt: | ah on mythbuntu its in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [03:13:24] | wagnerrp: | the init scripts for several distros will often specify a different location |
| [03:13:30] | wagnerrp: | and you are still wrong |
| [03:13:49] | tmkt: | how am I wrong..I'm looking at it right now on mine..thats where it was put by mythbuntu.. |
| [03:13:52] | gh0st: | okay, i think im starting to get the mysql/linux users thing, okay, however, after un-installing, then re-installing, shouldn't i have access with the root account? this is were its not making sence, and i think garbage is being left-over |
| [03:14:01] | wagnerrp: | mysql.txt is the old format |
| [03:14:14] | wagnerrp: | 0.21 (0.20.2?) moved it to config.xml |
| [03:14:24] | tmkt: | gh0st unix root and mysql root are different |
| [03:14:25] | wagnerrp: | mysql.txt is only maintained so old scripts can use it |
| [03:14:28] | tmkt: | dunno..all I've used is 0.21 |
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| [03:14:59] | wagnerrp: | if you uninstall mysql, delete all of its database files, and reinstall, root should have no password |
| [03:15:19] | wagnerrp: | if you shut down mysql, delete all of its database files, and start it back up, root should have no password |
| [03:15:41] | gh0st: | ill try that, hold on, im going to start COMPLETELY fresh |
| [03:15:46] | wagnerrp: | theres also some other mechanism i dont know off hand by which you can disable authentication all together |
| [03:15:57] | wagnerrp: | in the event you have set and forgotten your root password |
| [03:17:14] | gh0st: | ill be a few, i have to go in SPM because i even tryed installing the mythtv-desktop package over ubuntu |
| [03:17:22] | wagnerrp: | dont do anything |
| [03:17:31] | wagnerrp: | run 'mysql -uroot' |
| [03:17:35] | gh0st: | okay |
| [03:17:57] | gh0st: | Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' |
| [03:18:01] | wagnerrp: | inside mysql, run "grant all on mythconverg.* to 'mythtv'@'localhost' identified by 'mythtv';" |
| [03:18:13] | wagnerrp: | well do you know the root password (for mysql)? |
| [03:18:19] | wagnerrp: | if you do, add a '-p' |
| [03:18:43] | wagnerrp: | open up your config.xml, where ever your distro stores it, and set your username and password to 'mythtv' |
| [03:19:06] | wagnerrp: | if you dont, search for how to run mysql with authentication disabled |
| [03:19:18] | gh0st: | were would i locate config.xml? |
| [03:19:37] | wagnerrp: | try ~/.mythtv/, /etc/mythtv, /etc/mythtv/.mythtv |
| [03:19:42] | gh0st: | okay, 1 sec |
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| [03:20:32] | gh0st: | none of those locations exist |
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| [03:21:17] | gh0st: | give me 2 minutes, and ill "fresh install" mythtv, then ill re-apply what you said |
| [03:21:26] | gh0st: | cool? |
| [03:21:35] | wagnerrp: | no need to 'fresh install' mythtv |
| [03:21:36] | thedarkone: | can mythtv remote frontend use dvds ripped off the master backend |
| [03:21:44] | wagnerrp: | because mythtv ONLY stores information in the database |
| [03:21:51] | wagnerrp: | you whipe the database, you start fresh |
| [03:22:44] | wagnerrp: | in 0.21, if you give the remote frontend file access to the iso or video file, it can play them |
| [03:23:00] | thedarkone: | i see |
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| [03:23:10] | wagnerrp: | in trunk, you can share the files over storage groups, rather than having to rely on some network file system |
| [03:23:11] | thedarkone: | well i am new with remote fronts |
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| [03:23:49] | thedarkone: | well i wanted my quad core to be the backend and dual core frontend |
| [03:24:13] | wagnerrp: | i think greyfoxx has managed to share the actual DVD drive to the frontend, using ATAoE |
| [03:24:54] | thedarkone: | is there a easy way to do this |
| [03:25:42] | wagnerrp: | are you asking if there is an easy way to have a remote frontend? |
| [03:25:56] | wagnerrp: | all you have to do is run 'mythfrontend' |
| [03:26:04] | wagnerrp: | and possibly set proper mysql permissions |
| [03:26:19] | wagnerrp: | and possibly set up the NFS shares |
| [03:26:26] | thedarkone: | okay |
| [03:28:45] | gh0st: | good news so far on new install, like i said, there is still crap left over somehow, i dont think its mythtv though, because even after complete removal, default access to mysql for root was passworded, but now myth has the password |
| [03:28:57] | gh0st: | now im running mythtv-setup |
| [03:29:40] | wagnerrp: | if you dont have root access to mysql, you cannot grant the necessary permissions to make mythtv work |
| [03:29:56] | wagnerrp: | unless your distro does all that for you |
| [03:30:01] | gh0st: | okay, i now have root access but the user mythtv doesnt |
| [03:30:36] | gh0st: | how do i rectify that? |
| [03:30:37] | wagnerrp: | did you run that 'grant' command i gave a while back? |
| [03:30:49] | gh0st: | ill copy/paste, 1 sec |
| [03:31:40] | gh0st: | i typed: grant all on mythconverg.* to 'mythtv'@'localhost' identified by 'mythtv'; with the response of: Query OK, 0 rows affected (0.00 sec) |
| [03:32:03] | wagnerrp: | thats fine... now try 'mysql -umythtv -pmythtv' |
| [03:32:17] | kormoc: | need to flush |
| [03:32:49] | gh0st: | the only thing i get is a prompt |
| [03:32:58] | wagnerrp: | when you run that command? |
| [03:33:08] | wagnerrp: | meaning it successfully logged into mysql? |
| [03:33:16] | wagnerrp: | then youre ready to go |
| [03:33:24] | wagnerrp: | just have mythtv use those credentials |
| [03:33:37] | wagnerrp: | user=mythtv, pass=mythtv, database=mythconverg, host=localhost |
| [03:33:46] | gh0st: | okay, ill fire up myth, and let ya know |
| [03:33:58] | wagnerrp: | all of this should be in the documentation by the way |
| [03:34:09] | wagnerrp: | at least the manual install documentation |
| [03:34:23] | wagnerrp: | pre-build distros may do more or less of this for you automatically |
| [03:35:59] | gh0st: | wow, man. im completely taken away. this worked, almost 6 months of struggling, and it works now! |
| [03:37:00] | gh0st: | there is no friggin words in english that can explain how grateful i am. Thank you SO much! |
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| [03:51:29] | ajh: | any idea how to get minimal debug info out of the macos front-end, I mounted the Mythvideo directory locally, I got a scan of the files and it sees them, when I select them in the frontend they show as length 0. |
| [03:51:41] | ajh: | but I can cat them on the front end machine under my user |
| [03:51:50] | kormoc: | run it in a terminal |
| [03:51:58] | wagnerrp: | with '-v all' |
| [03:52:00] | ajh: | duh |
| [03:52:11] | ajh: | OK, thanks, I clearly need sleep :) |
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| [03:55:41] | ajh: | uhm, on macos if I try to run it from bash, it just looks like a directory. |
| [03:56:22] | kormoc: | that's because you have to run it via open -a mythfrontend.app |
| [03:56:51] | kormoc: | or cd into it and find the binary |
| [03:57:20] | wagnerrp: | mac programs come as a packaged file system? |
| [03:57:24] | kormoc: | yes |
| [03:57:27] | wagnerrp: | sounds like of like steam |
| [03:57:28] | ajh: | Yeah a disc image. |
| [03:57:48] | kormoc: | it's actually fairly nice |
| [03:57:55] | kormoc: | i'd be nice if linux picked up on it |
| [03:58:22] | ajh: | does not seem to have a way to pass the variables though. |
| [03:58:34] | iamlindoro: | cd mythfrontend.app |
| [03:58:37] | iamlindoro: | cd Macos |
| [03:58:40] | iamlindoro: | cd resources |
| [03:58:47] | iamlindoro: | ./mythfrontend -v boobies |
| [03:58:50] | ** kormoc thinks there's a Contents perhaps missing ** | |
| [03:58:52] | iamlindoro: | something like that |
| [03:59:09] | ajh: | ah, yes thanks. |
| [03:59:09] | iamlindoro: | yeah, not too many subdir options, so it's fairly straightforward |
| [03:59:54] | ajh: | Yep, just what I suspected, the player does not exist :) |
| [03:59:58] | kormoc: | that said open -a mythfrontend.app — -v boobies should work |
| [04:00:37] | wagnerrp: | awesome! a flag to make mythtv show more boobies! |
| [04:00:49] | ** kormoc starts watching firefly ** | |
| [04:00:57] | kormoc: | Mine seems to be broken :( |
| [04:01:05] | ajh: | Okey, fixed and working, thanks :) |
| [04:01:47] | iamlindoro: | -v jewel,morejewel,boobies |
| [04:01:56] | ** kormoc gives that a go ** | |
| [04:02:20] | ** kormoc submits a bug report ** | |
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| [04:02:59] | ** iamlindoro suggests closing the ticket, mlocking it, and saying, in all caps, "TRAC IS NOT A DISCUSSION FORUM" ** | |
| [04:03:08] | iamlindoro: | so that kormoc can fuh-reak out for fun |
| [04:03:40] | kormoc: | YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM! YOU ARE FUNDAMENTALLY FLAWED AS A HUMAN! |
| [04:04:07] | iamlindoro: | I think you are seriously misreading this! You are also not good looking and your mother never loved you! |
| [04:04:29] | ** kormoc weeps ** | |
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| [04:06:59] | ** kormoc has decided he needs more liqueur ** | |
| [04:07:33] | iamlindoro: | You haven't had enough until it becomes liqueueueueuer |
| [04:08:06] | iamlindoro: | or, alternately, "licker" |
| [04:08:12] | kormoc: | Sadly xris currently has the carbonated vodka I'm really wanting |
| [04:09:17] | iamlindoro: | I am spending the next 10 days caring for young minds, no liquor for iamlindoro |
| [04:09:29] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [04:09:42] | kormoc: | but that's the /best/ time for liquor! |
| [04:09:51] | iamlindoro: | Their parents would beg to disagree |
| [04:10:16] | wagnerrp: | everyone likes the surly new-englander |
| [04:10:38] | kormoc: | Heh, I remember the first time I got drunk, it involved my Dad, a bottle of Absolute red, and a statement along the lines of , 'Boy! I'm gonna drunk you under the table!' |
| [04:10:56] | kormoc: | you just need to find parents like that! |
| [04:10:58] | iamlindoro: | My friends have started a real life club (and corresponding facebook group) for us called "drinking club with a triathlon problem) |
| [04:11:00] | iamlindoro: | " |
| [04:11:06] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [04:11:12] | wagnerrp: | 'why wont people just read the documentation... kaylee come, i need comforting' |
| [04:11:20] | ** kormoc woos ** | |
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| [04:14:18] | wagnerrp: | you know, it always bothered me in Cowboy Bebop how many people survived vacuum |
| [04:15:47] | kormoc: | I never minded |
| [04:16:10] | wagnerrp: | i mean sure, you *can* live |
| [04:16:17] | wagnerrp: | but youre not going to be a happy camper afterwards |
| [04:18:23] | wagnerrp: | then again, i guess some waist bandages and a night's rest healed all their woes on that show |
| [04:22:59] | ** iamlindoro has a feeling Virtuality has exactly 0% chance of getting picked up for a series ** | |
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| [04:23:39] | wagnerrp: | is that the one where a bunch of people are on a fake trip to some other planet? |
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| [04:24:17] | iamlindoro: | it's not fake, it's a real trip |
| [04:24:35] | iamlindoro: | just too smart for Fox |
| [04:25:40] | iamlindoro: | Ronald D. Moore (Galactica) is the writer, just watching the semi-pilot right now on Fox, just don't think a show like this could live on Fox |
| [04:26:35] | ajh: | I think you'll find most SciFi tv is faked using special effects. |
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| [04:26:37] | ** ajh runs. ** | |
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| [04:27:26] | wagnerrp: | nuh uh! dolphins really can talk! |
| [04:28:59] | iamlindoro: | SCRRRREEEEEEEEEE kweee kwweeeeee |
| [04:29:01] | ajh: | Ugh, now I need to move all my storage over to a server, at least it will get the noise/heat into the basement. |
| [04:29:08] | wagnerrp: | seems someone is suing SquareEnix for $5M because he didnt realize FFXI had a monthly subscription fee before purchasing it |
| [04:30:14] | ajh: | Just buying more media and copying up during an upgrade just really starts failing when you get sufficient storage. |
| [04:30:33] | wagnerrp: | huh? |
| [04:30:52] | ajh: | The raids are on different machines and not format compatible. |
| [04:31:11] | iamlindoro: | screen + rsync + go out for the weekend |
| [04:31:29] | ajh: | the issue is having somewhere to put it in the meanwhile |
| [04:31:45] | ajh: | cannot move 'half' the drives in a raid5. :) |
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| [04:31:57] | wagnerrp: | well youre supposed to leave enough ports open that you can plug in enough drives to offload the content |
| [04:32:00] | ajh: | Guess I go pick up 4 more 2TB drives tomorrow :) |
| [04:32:08] | iamlindoro: | You can if you have a 3 disk RAID 5 |
| [04:32:25] | ajh: | Ever rebuilt a raid, it ain't quick :) |
| [04:32:26] | wagnerrp: | or, have additional machines you plug them into to hold them temporarily |
| [04:32:52] | ** iamlindoro chuckles a little bit at being asked if he's ever rebuilt a RAID ** | |
| [04:32:52] | wagnerrp: | last one i did only took ~15 hrs |
| [04:33:03] | wagnerrp: | not too bad |
| [04:33:04] | ajh: | Yeah, if it was not 7TB of stuff that would be the the solution. |
| [04:33:20] | ajh: | iam, I was saying that tongue in cheek :) |
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| [04:34:05] | ajh: | The crashplan guys gave me a server license for here so I need to re-jig everything to make it work. |
| [04:34:23] | wagnerrp: | i came across an interesting problem earlier today |
| [04:34:32] | wagnerrp: | i was setting my uncles old machine back up |
| [04:34:45] | wagnerrp: | with a 1680x1050 VGA monitor |
| [04:35:05] | wagnerrp: | at 60Hz, it would not display full screen, no matter what i did |
| [04:35:26] | wagnerrp: | it was always a little 4:3 box in the middle of the screen, meaning it was all squished horizontally |
| [04:35:32] | ajh: | intel video card? |
| [04:35:39] | wagnerrp: | at 59Hz, the display ran just fine |
| [04:35:43] | wagnerrp: | na, old MX440 |
| [04:35:50] | ajh: | Oh that is odd :) |
| [04:37:24] | wagnerrp: | i also went upstairs, horrified to find their nice 24" monitor running at 1280x800 |
| [04:42:47] | kormoc: | ahh, managed to fit two cases of beer into the fridge |
| [04:43:45] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, When I bought my place I bought an extra deep french door fridge, can fit five cases... yay! :) |
| [04:43:57] | kormoc: | Hehe, that's awesome :) |
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| [06:00:02] | hachi: | inuseprograms doesn't seem to contain a program ID of any kind |
| [06:00:15] | hachi: | anyone know how to figure it out... lock it on some particular file? |
| [06:01:44] | hachi: | I guess it's chanid and start time :\ |
| [06:02:50] | kormoc: | that is the standard id used thoughout myth, yes |
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| [06:03:19] | hachi: | pk on recordedprogram is a tuple of chanid, starttime, and manualid |
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| [07:45:31] | gravisan: | hi all |
| [07:45:37] | gravisan: | slightly myth unrelated |
| [07:45:46] | gravisan: | but ca lircrc files have comments |
| [07:45:48] | gravisan: | for e.g. # |
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| [08:24:26] | dustybin: | wow |
| [08:24:26] | dustybin: | http://www.tcmagazine.info/comments.php?catid . . . ownews=25634 |
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| [12:25:58] | cityLights1: | hi all |
| [12:26:26] | cityLights1: | kins of early to the time I usually see ppl active here, any one here? |
| [12:27:05] | cityLights1: | I got two new issues: I am tring to see a tv channel at 62.50Mhz using a frame grabber |
| [12:27:24] | cityLights1: | I can see the picture, but can't hear th audio |
| [12:27:40] | cityLights1: | I config the set up to PAL try-all |
| [12:30:44] | gbee: | cityLights1: this is the only channel you have problems with? |
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| [12:45:13] | cityLights1: | gbee: well, a few other also had to be configure manually |
| [12:45:36] | cityLights1: | most channels did come up using the scan |
| [12:47:04] | cityLights1: | I used the scan resaults, and tv-time to establish that channel A that was scaned in mythtv |
| [12:47:32] | cityLights1: | and the frequency B that is showen in tv-time are related: |
| [12:47:42] | cityLights1: | A-43 =B |
| [12:48:32] | cityLights1: | but that is in integers, tvtime gave me a reading of 62.5 while mythtv only allows 19 or 20 |
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| [13:06:39] | cityLights1: | shouldnt the try-all be the integer value of the frequency? |
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| [13:48:21] | jduggan: | so |
| [13:48:26] | jduggan: | anyone tried the samsung eco-greens |
| [13:51:49] | cityLights1: | heard go of them |
| [13:51:51] | cityLights1: | gbee? |
| [13:51:57] | cityLights1: | ~seen gbee |
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| [14:05:28] | sphery: | cityLights1: if you type in a number for freqid that's < 10000 (after finetune is added to the freqid), then you're specifying a channel /number/ for freqid and its frequency is determined from the specified frequency table (i.e. Europe West or whatever). If you specify a value > 10000, you're specifying a frequency in kHz. |
| [14:05:49] | cityLights1: | hi sphery |
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| [14:07:22] | cityLights1: | so I should plugin 62500 to get 62.5Mhz |
| [14:07:28] | cityLights1: | ok I can try that |
| [14:07:52] | cityLights1: | still I setup mythtv for try all not western europe |
| [14:12:10] | sphery: | you still have to have specified a frequency table otherwise it cannot use channel numbers (because there's no way to look up frequency) |
| [14:12:16] | cityLights1: | HOLLY SHIT! |
| [14:12:19] | cityLights1: | it works! |
| [14:12:59] | cityLights1: | why do I need channel numbers? |
| [14:13:47] | cityLights1: | I manually matched each chanell withthe call sign to pull in the program list for that channel |
| [14:13:48] | sphery: | if the value you said was in there was truly a small integer value, it was a channel number |
| [14:14:03] | sphery: | where are you? |
| [14:14:11] | cityLights1: | I am in Israel :-) |
| [14:14:17] | cityLights1: | where are you? |
| [14:14:26] | sphery: | US |
| [14:14:43] | cityLights1: | and you are awake now??? |
| [14:14:45] | sphery: | just wondering what's the appropriate analog freq table for you--I'd guess it has the channel you need. |
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| [14:14:57] | sphery: | yeah. Been up for 3hrs :) (Since 7:00am) |
| [14:15:10] | cityLights1: | well I am un western europe freq list |
| [14:15:11] | sphery: | I'm East coast, so it's already 10:15 |
| [14:15:42] | cityLights1: | ok, pls help me out |
| [14:15:54] | cityLights1: | I created a new db |
| [14:16:12] | sphery: | is it cable? |
| [14:16:19] | cityLights1: | choose try-all , scanned and got channels with three digits like 437 |
| [14:16:26] | cityLights1: | yes it is cable |
| [14:16:37] | sphery: | Israel has cable (HOT) and air analog channels. Cable consists of three companies that have recently joined to form HOT – matav, tevel, and Golden Channels. This is the frequency table used in Matav. (Added by Max Timchenko [www.maxvt.net], 04/04/2007) |
| [14:16:45] | sphery: | for freq table israel_hot_matav |
| [14:16:46] | cityLights1: | tv-time picked up all channels – while mythtv missed a few |
| [14:17:14] | sphery: | there is none at 62.5MHz, but there's channel 46 at 648250kHz. |
| [14:17:25] | cityLights1: | right, but here we dont get MATAV |
| [14:17:29] | sphery: | Don't know if it's just an incomplete frequency table (i.e. if they've added more channels above that) |
| [14:18:13] | cityLights1: | I can create a freq list for my reagen of IL |
| [14:18:25] | cityLights1: | (did I spell reagon right?) |
| [14:18:35] | cityLights1: | ri-jo-n |
| [14:19:02] | sphery: | try all just does a check at ever MHz value from 44MHz to 957MHz. It is actually a "frequency table", but it relies heavily on the hardware finetune mechanism's being able to actually adjust for the offset from the MHz. |
| [14:19:09] | cityLights1: | any way – why did myth pick up all the other channels and named them with three digits? |
| [14:19:16] | sphery: | region :) |
| [14:19:32] | sphery: | Do you have a reference to your region's frequency allocation? |
| [14:19:33] | cityLights1: | thanks |
| [14:19:46] | sphery: | if so, I could easily do up a patch for it and we could get it into Myth |
| [14:19:57] | cityLights1: | pal-bg according to the technition :) |
| [14:20:03] | sphery: | (or could show you how. basically, the same as http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/13251 ) |
| [14:20:20] | cityLights1: | ok |
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| [14:20:39] | cityLights1: | so why is tv-time better at picking up the channels ? |
| [14:20:47] | sphery: | pal-bg is the transmission standard--for example, the US uses NTSC-M, but we have frequency tables for over-the-air, cable (standard), cable HRC, and cable IRC |
| [14:20:54] | daum: | hey guys – i'm trying to play back a recording however it doesn't seem to have sound, any ideas? |
| [14:20:59] | cityLights1: | right – this was a joke |
| [14:20:59] | sphery: | they may have a frequency table we don't |
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| [14:21:37] | sphery: | we need people to report when their frequency tables don't exist (rather than just specifying kHz frequencies for every channel) so we can add the tables to Myth for the next person :) |
| [14:21:45] | cityLights1: | oh, I see – so you suggest I look up the frequency in my tv, and post them? |
| [14:22:08] | cityLights1: | ok, I can do that |
| [14:22:10] | sphery: | best bet is to find a published reference--and add a link to a comment so people can adjust it |
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| [14:22:29] | cityLights1: | I need to check this-out |
| [14:22:38] | sphery: | but if you can find it some other way, it's better than nothing |
| [14:22:43] | cityLights1: | sphery: can I ask another? |
| [14:22:57] | sphery: | sure |
| [14:23:27] | cityLights1: | well, I got a second pc with a frame grabber |
| [14:23:46] | cityLights1: | I bet a better picture there and wanted to use it as a second backend |
| [14:24:19] | cityLights1: | I pointed it to the first pc's mysql and ran a channel scan |
| [14:24:58] | sphery: | you only need to do a channel scan for each separate video source |
| [14:25:00] | cityLights1: | got some hits, but I just can't use this backend from the second pc , no from the first |
| [14:25:20] | sphery: | so if you have the same video source on the first (i.e. using the same channels), just specify the same video source you used on the master |
| [14:25:44] | cityLights1: | lets assume I use TWO video sources |
| [14:26:10] | cityLights1: | I get empty channels at the prgoram guide and I cant tune to them from the frontend |
| [14:26:32] | sphery: | empty channels meaning no guide data? |
| [14:26:41] | sphery: | if so, you need to fix xmltvid's/your grabber |
| [14:27:19] | cityLights1: | I am more concerned with not being able to "see" these channels |
| [14:27:34] | cityLights1: | I am less worried about their epg data now |
| [14:28:05] | cityLights1: | I tried running mythfilldatabase --file 2 xmlfile |
| [14:28:10] | cityLights1: | for the epg data |
| [14:28:37] | sphery: | well, it could be any number of things, but the epg data is a great way to rule some of them out |
| [14:28:37] | cityLights1: | when I tested the card as a stand alone on that pc, it worked well |
| [14:28:45] | cityLights1: | o |
| [14:28:47] | cityLights1: | I see |
| [14:28:49] | sphery: | basically, my guess is that you have ghost channels/garbage in your db |
| [14:29:03] | sphery: | best way to clean it out is to start fresh: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [14:29:06] | cityLights1: | ok, so I should delete the second source and choose the first? |
| [14:29:20] | sphery: | if the sources are identical, yes |
| [14:29:30] | sphery: | but really, you may need to delete all to clean up the garbage |
| [14:29:37] | cityLights1: | so I wouldnt need to clean nothing up – right? |
| [14:29:54] | sphery: | identical sources means exact same list of channels operating on the same freqid's and tuned the same way |
| [14:30:06] | cityLights1: | right |
| [14:30:15] | sphery: | you can try just deleting the one, but it's not guaranteed to work |
| [14:30:33] | cityLights1: | I am sure it is fine as I killed the db when I downgraded from trunk to 0.21fixes |
| [14:30:57] | cityLights1: | and imported an .sql file with the freq list |
| [14:31:18] | sphery: | basically, if you mess up the way capture cards/video sources/input connections are set up, it may not be able to clean up the wrong data. They generally get messed up when doing multiple scans/adding new stuff that's not right. |
| [14:32:12] | cityLights1: | is there a way to dump the second frequency list to file? |
| [14:33:17] | sphery: | whatever approaches mysql provides |
| [14:33:17] | cityLights1: | I am booting the sec pc now, to test using a single "video soure" |
| [14:33:19] | sphery: | none in myth |
| [14:33:22] | cityLights1: | source |
| [14:35:14] | sphery: | heh, #6668 "column already exists in schema upgrade" = some user messed with his own database and broke his upgrade |
| [14:36:32] | cityLights1: | ? |
| [14:37:13] | sphery: | just a comment on a "bug" someone posted |
| [14:37:40] | cityLights1: | here: I started a frontend on the secondpc |
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| [14:37:55] | cityLights1: | I see tv there |
| [14:38:12] | cityLights1: | I now start a frontend from the first pc |
| [14:38:21] | cityLights1: | I can't start "watch tv" |
| [14:39:17] | cityLights1: | at system status I see tunder1 watching live tv, tuner 2 is unavailable |
| [14:39:37] | sphery: | that likely means your remote backend isn't properly configured |
| [14:39:55] | cityLights1: | hmm |
| [14:40:04] | cityLights1: | see quite easy to config |
| [14:40:25] | cityLights1: | just choose the video card and hook it up to the video source |
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| [14:42:40] | cityLights1: | brb (5min) |
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| [14:55:00] | cityLights1: | sphery: my second mythtv backend gives me this http://dpaste.com/60437/ |
| [14:55:24] | cityLights1: | seems he can't connect to the mysql db on the first pc |
| [14:55:43] | cityLights1: | yet mysql -u mythtv -h firstpc -p works |
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| [14:55:52] | stoth: | hi |
| [14:57:45] | stoth: | Anyone does a good performance and maintanance comparision between ext4 and xfs for myth purposes yet? |
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| [15:05:47] | sphery: | cityLights1: looks suspect--you didn't set up the MythTV database on the remote backend, did you? I.e. the remote backend should /not/ be connecting to MySQL server on localhost. See http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-6.html and http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-9.html#ss9.3 and when you fix it, run mythtv-setup --prompt (to get it to ask you language/database settings again) |
| [15:06:20] | cityLights1: | thanks |
| [15:06:23] | cityLights1: | on my way |
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| [15:27:30] | cityLights1: | sphery: Invalid argument: --prompt |
| [15:27:32] | gbee: | stoth: I've not seen one, I'd be interested though |
| [15:27:42] | cityLights1: | me too |
| [15:27:51] | cityLights1: | maybe I will test it later |
| [15:28:03] | gbee: | is one of the promised features of ext4 faster deletes? |
| [15:28:41] | cityLights1: | what I did , was to setup the second pc as a stand-alone then, chnage the db to point to the first pc |
| [15:29:08] | cityLights1: | gbee: yes it should offer faster deletes , according to reviews |
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| [15:32:28] | floppyears: | hi guys |
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| [15:34:08] | floppyears: | I upgraded ubuntu, and when I rebooted my two tuners were switched |
| [15:34:25] | floppyears: | meaning when I change channels in 1 tuner, it's changing channels in the other tuner |
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| [15:37:20] | cityLights1: | the mythtv-setup connects to the first pc mysql and shows all apropriate data |
| [15:37:49] | cityLights1: | yet when I run the backend I get the same massages , that it can't connect to the mysql server |
| [15:38:11] | cityLights1: | I tried to remove the .mythtv and run setup again |
| [15:38:15] | cityLights1: | same issue |
| [15:38:50] | sphery: | you have a valid $HOME/.mythtv/{mysql.txt,config.xml} for the user running mythtv-setup, but not the user running the backend |
| [15:39:01] | sphery: | guess --prompt only works with the frontend |
| [15:39:40] | sphery: | the whole point of --prompt was to get it to ask you for those details for the other user (which isn't set up right) so it could be fixed |
| [15:39:43] | sphery: | but you can do it manually |
| [15:40:00] | sphery: | just copy those file(s) to the right place for the other user |
| [15:40:16] | cityLights1: | let me see |
| [15:40:23] | cityLights1: | allready sguessed that... |
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| [15:42:22] | cityLights1: | Connected successfully |
| [15:42:25] | cityLights1: | let me test |
| [15:42:47] | cityLights1: | tuner2 is not recording! |
| [15:42:49] | cityLights1: | :-) |
| [15:42:58] | cityLights1: | you are very halpfull |
| [15:43:05] | cityLights1: | should I now write a wiki for this? |
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| [15:44:07] | cityLights1: | YES I can see picture in picture for the first timeQ |
| [15:44:09] | cityLights1: | ! |
| [15:44:15] | cityLights1: | gorgess |
| [15:44:52] | cityLights1: | sphery: do I need to write a faq in the wiki of how to fix what you just told me to do? |
| [15:47:22] | sphery: | would be nice |
| [15:47:28] | cityLights1: | ok |
| [15:48:58] | cityLights1: | does anyone here uses pulseaudio? |
| [15:49:36] | cityLights1: | I am seeking to be able to swith between two sound outputs and wonder if anyone did this |
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| [16:56:49] | cityLights1: | sphery: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_Q . . . o_connect.3F |
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| [17:25:52] | klo`: | \/_/ / / |
| [17:25:54] | klo`: | / / / |
| [17:25:55] | klo`: | \/_/ |
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| [17:26:27] | Hoxzer: | OMG ITS FAKKING 3D |
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| [17:26:53] | kshots: | What's the best way to clear existing channel data in the svn trunk? |
| [17:27:49] | kshots: | n/m |
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| [17:30:04] | nomin: | how often does this channel get spammed like that? |
| [17:30:28] | kshots: | 2 |
| [17:30:54] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +o gbee | |
| [17:30:58] | nomin: | that user likes to spam other channels, I'm just wondering if this channel has been one of his targets |
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| [17:31:16] | gbee: | meh |
| [17:31:21] | nomin: | that user changes nicks and IP addresses |
| [17:31:46] | gbee: | aye, wrong ban |
| [17:32:19] | Mode for #mythtv-users by gbee!n=gbee@cpc1-derb9-0-0-cust229.leic.cable.ntl.com : -b klo`!*@* | |
| [17:33:25] | c3ntaur: | Hey guys |
| [17:33:35] | c3ntaur: | dmesg seems to show that my card was successfully detected |
| [17:33:43] | c3ntaur: | [ 66.621936] cx88[0]/2: subsystem: 18ac:d610, board: DViCO FusionHDTV 7 Gold [card=65] |
| [17:33:45] | AndyCap: | what's with all the ascii nazis? |
| [17:34:01] | c3ntaur: | But I can't get it to scan for broadcast chans |
| [17:34:04] | c3ntaur: | It's just a blue screen |
| [17:34:11] | c3ntaur: | Any thoughts? |
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| [17:35:40] | gbee: | nomin: pretty rare really, though we got a neo-nazi in here last night |
| [17:36:07] | gbee: | oh crap, wrong ip |
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| [17:36:30] | kshots: | thanks, I thought I was stuck banned :) |
| [17:37:36] | gbee: | I think I'll just leave it to the competent ops |
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| [17:38:25] | gbee: | kshots: good job I double checked eh? :) |
| [17:38:40] | kshots: | heh, had me worried for a bit :) |
| [17:39:03] | kormoc: | you still haven't banned him :) |
| [17:39:20] | gbee: | in my defence, both nicks starting with K and you joined seconds after Klo` |
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| [17:39:47] | gbee: | kormoc: "<gbee> I think I'll just leave it to the competent ops" ;) |
| [17:39:53] | ** kormoc laughs ** | |
| [17:40:07] | kshots: | it's all good, you caught it before any damage was done :) |
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| [18:06:22] | wagnerrp: | we piss off some group of nazis? or did they just find an active channel? |
| [18:06:28] | wagnerrp: | ... wheres elwood when you need him... |
| [18:19:51] | Dagmar: | eh? |
| [18:20:06] | Dagmar: | I'm not sure one random idjit counts as a trend worth noting. |
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| [18:26:53] | Shadow__X: | Dagmar,there was the other idiot afew days ago as well |
| [18:27:41] | Dagmar: | This is IRC tho |
| [18:28:10] | Shadow__X: | which means idiots are bound to happen? |
| [18:28:54] | Shadow__X: | can anyone suggest ways for dpms to actually shutoff my screen and not just turn the screensaver on |
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| [18:39:01] | sphery: | Shadow__X: dpms does not do screen savers--the closest analog is the DPMS blank, which is configured with: Option "BlankTime" "10" |
| [18:39:16] | sphery: | where 10 is the number of minutes of idle before screen is blanked |
| [18:39:36] | sphery: | there's also "StandbyTime" "SuspendTime" and "OffTime" --guess which one you want |
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| [18:40:14] | sphery: | note, however, if you're running a screensaver, /it/ will almost definitely control the monitor's on/standby/suspend/off state |
| [18:40:23] | sphery: | so configure your screensaver properly |
| [18:40:56] | sphery: | (and if you're seeing anything other than a blank screen for the "screensaver" that you think DPMS is activating, you're running a screensaver and DPMS is not involved) |
| [18:41:33] | sphery: | (or, more precisely, the X server's DPMS support is not involved) |
| [18:45:11] | Shadow__X: | ahh thanks sphery |
| [18:45:48] | Shadow__X: | also good work on redisign on mythtv's sitie |
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| [18:47:34] | sphery: | that was all xr is and a few helpers from the lists |
| [18:47:44] | sphery: | but yeah, they did a nice job on it |
| [18:47:51] | Shadow__X: | ah |
| [18:47:59] | Shadow__X: | it says you and him on the main site |
| [18:48:50] | sphery: | actually, that's not me... it's gb ee |
| [18:49:11] | sphery: | and, yeah, I forgot how much he did on it, too |
| [18:49:13] | Shadow__X: | ah right sorry about that but you have helped me alot so thank you for that |
| [18:49:26] | Shadow__X: | my mind is else where sorry about that |
| [18:49:39] | sphery: | no problems... just didn't want to steal someone else's glory :) |
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| [18:57:53] | troldrik: | QGLContext::makeCurrent(): Cannot make invalid context current. |
| [18:58:15] | troldrik: | How do I tell if it's using opengl widget drawing? (0.21-fixes) |
| [18:58:43] | Shadow__X: | on the fe settings |
| [18:59:01] | troldrik: | It's not drawing anything but the theme background and spamming that message to the termninal. |
| [18:59:05] | troldrik: | Not an option atm. |
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| [19:25:38] | psm321: | hi |
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| [19:26:31] | psm321: | somewhat offtopic, but since it's about my myth db and i figure people here might know, is there any additional efficiency gain from doing an optimize table instead of backup-delete-reimport? |
| [19:36:55] | cityLights1: | hi, is anyhere using a sophisticated audio setup? |
| [19:37:15] | sphery: | optimize table won't do too much for myth tables (just because of how they're used), but running optimize_mythdb.pl will do optimize, analyze, and repair on your tables |
| [19:37:20] | cityLights1: | like two sound system connected to the same frontend? |
| [19:37:37] | sphery: | the backup-drop-restore doesn't really gain much for Myth, either |
| [19:38:19] | sphery: | the most important thing to do for your DB is make sure you run mythbackend (it takes care of getting rid of old data, which is the biggest efficiency gain) |
| [19:40:57] | cityLights1: | I mean the ability to swith between two sound cards as an output |
| [19:42:59] | Dagmar: | Knobs have their uses |
| [19:43:15] | Dagmar: | Myth does not support ill-advised sound configurations. |
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| [19:50:38] | cornell: | Hi.. Trying to install myth (linhes) and I'm having trouble with channels. My first attempt, in Input Connections, I did a scan, using frequency table "cable". I ended up with listings that showed networks that didn't correspond to what was actually being tuned. I was advised not to scan, but just to fetch listings. I reinstalled and didn't scan, just fetched. Now, I have no channels at all. |
| [19:51:41] | cornell: | I'm having no luck figuring/finding out if I should scan, fetch or both. Or if it's some other parameter of the scan page that's screwing me up. |
| [19:52:00] | cornell: | I'm in the US, using Comcast Digital cable. |
| [19:52:06] | cornell: | Any ideas? |
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| [19:54:30] | sphery: | cornell: at least the video sources portion of: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [19:57:12] | cornell: | mmm... says with digital source, must scan for channels. I was advised that scanning was only necessary for OTA. So, I have to scan. |
| [19:57:33] | ajh: | No way to get a DVB-S card to do OTA eh? :) |
| [19:57:43] | ajh: | mutter, 3 useless Nova-S here now. |
| [19:58:00] | cornell: | But that page also references: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Channel_Editor |
| [19:58:33] | psm321: | sphery: i actually gain huge speedups in mythfilldatabase and reschedule from the backup-delete-import |
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| [19:58:48] | psm321: | sphery: i dont know the reason, but i can say empirically it makes a big difference |
| [19:58:58] | cornell: | which indicates scan, then fetch. There's also mention of "xmltvid", checking it or modifying it. Is that a file? |
| [19:59:46] | psm321: | cornell: i'm assuming youre trying to do clear QAM |
| [20:00:18] | cornell: | Right |
| [20:00:28] | stoth_: | hmm, what's the easiest way to remove a dir from a storage group? |
| [20:01:08] | psm321: | stoth_: i think it was the D key |
| [20:01:14] | psm321: | i remember it being non-obvious |
| [20:01:17] | psm321: | either D or delete |
| [20:01:23] | psm321: | while its selected in the listing |
| [20:01:25] | stoth_: | yeah, sorry – reading the wiki now. thx |
| [20:01:38] | sphery: | D |
| [20:01:53] | sphery: | cornell: yeah, for digital TV (all except firewire), you scan |
| [20:01:55] | psm321: | cornell: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Comcast_Users_And_scte65scan |
| [20:02:14] | sphery: | cornell: after scan, you edit the channel using the mythtv-setup or mythweb channel editor and fill in the xmltvid column for each channel |
| [20:02:17] | sphery: | then run mythfilldatabase |
| [20:02:38] | psm321: | scte65scan will take care of it for you if youre in an area where comcast has started deploying DTAs |
| [20:02:47] | sphery: | and if you have scte channels, the myth channel scanner doesn't support them, so you'll have to use that program |
| [20:02:48] | psm321: | though, that won't get you the HD clear channels |
| [20:03:08] | psm321: | i havent quite worked out how to combine the 2 yet :) |
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| [20:04:53] | cornell: | Ah... xmltvid is a column... ok, and I'd get that information from the scte 65 scan, right? |
| [20:05:14] | psm321: | cornell: you can't easily combine the results of a mythtv channel scan and scte65scan |
| [20:05:20] | psm321: | the freq tables are different |
| [20:05:24] | cornell: | Oh. |
| [20:05:34] | psm321: | scte65scan will give you sql to feed into the db |
| [20:05:44] | psm321: | once youve figured out your vct_id |
| [20:05:50] | cornell: | Ok, so I start with a scan. Full scan of existing transports, right? |
| [20:06:11] | ** cornell does not remember it being this difficult with previous versions. ** | |
| [20:06:43] | psm321: | and then, sphery please correct me if i'm wrong here, but i'm guessing the way to combine scte65 channels with other channels not in that list is to also do a mythtv channel scan afterwards and keep what you want and delete the dupes? (this is just a theory, dont take my word for it) |
| [20:06:59] | psm321: | cornell: were you using digital previously? |
| [20:07:02] | psm321: | on comcast? |
| [20:07:45] | psm321: | you can do a normal mythtv scan but your symptoms there are going to be getting just things liek 77#4 for your channel numbers and manually having to figure out the xmltv id |
| [20:09:46] | cornell: | I don't recall doing that. I know I had the 77#4, actually I had 77_4. but I don't remember having to figure out xmltv id's |
| [20:10:17] | psm321: | sphery: example numbers for what i said earlier: my mythfilldatabase time for a complete fill went down to 16 minutes from 25 after a purge just now, and a reschedule from ~120 sec to 80. and yes, i delete from program; every time (whether i'm doing a full purge cucle or not) |
| [20:10:22] | ajh: | anyone here using HD-PVR now? |
| [20:10:36] | psm321: | cornell: did you get a lot of channels though? you were probably just getting copies of OTA and cspan before |
| [20:10:57] | cornell: | I kinda had digital, I didn't pay for it, but they sent out the clear channels on the net along with analogs. I was paying for analog, and hence was on the net, so I got the clear digital too. |
| [20:11:18] | cornell: | ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, A couple of locals |
| [20:11:23] | psm321: | yeah |
| [20:11:31] | psm321: | so now youre going to get basically the full basic lineup |
| [20:11:37] | psm321: | i bet if you let a full scan go trhough |
| [20:11:40] | psm321: | from myth |
| [20:11:40] | cornell: | I hope ;-) |
| [20:11:47] | psm321: | you will styill see the locals in 4_1 format |
| [20:11:55] | psm321: | but the non-locals wont have it |
| [20:12:03] | sphery: | no idea how to combine them... I haven't seen the output of scte68scan |
| [20:12:10] | psm321: | and thats why you need the manual xmltvid's or scte65scan |
| [20:12:25] | cornell: | But first I scan. Full scan of existing transports, right? |
| [20:12:33] | psm321: | um not sure |
| [20:12:42] | cornell: | bbiab |
| [20:13:15] | sphery: | psm321: well, generally, it shouldn't make a difference... When mfdb runs, it deletes all programs from the program table for the day for which it's running, so if you did a refresh all, it would be about equivalent to purging--with the exception of the 7 days before today (myth holds old listings for a week so you can find out why the show you though was going to air wasn't recorded) |
| [20:14:36] | sphery: | according to someone whose mysql (and myth) knowledge I very much trust, the optimize isn't too important for myth |
| [20:14:55] | sphery: | but if you see a huge difference after a backup/drop/restore, I'd guess there's some other effect involved |
| [20:15:25] | sphery: | kormoc being the guy who explained what optimize does and why it's not very important for myth |
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| [20:16:19] | psm321: | sphery: my guess is it has something to do with defragmenting the free space lists or whatever that it keeps, but thats just a guess |
| [20:16:31] | sphery: | that said, I run a daily analyze/optimize/repair (using optimize_mythdb.pl on a cron) |
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| [20:16:55] | sphery: | psm321: yeah, but it's really self-defragging becuase of the delete/insert done by mfdb |
| [20:17:44] | psm321: | shrug |
| [20:18:04] | sphery: | i'd be interested to see if your mfdb times really grow if you a) don't drop/restore for > 1wk and b) run optimize_mythdb.pl every day |
| [20:18:44] | sphery: | my current myth db has been in place since Oct 2006 and it's not at all slow |
| [20:18:58] | sphery: | mfdb generally runs in <1min on an Athlon XP 2400+ |
| [20:19:21] | cornell: | Oh, and those who are interested, I'm keeping running notes of what I"m doing at: http://www.sternbergh.org/mediawiki/index.php . . . nHES:Install |
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| [20:19:57] | sphery: | (of course, I'm using Schedules Direct, so download time is negligible--if you're using xmltv web scrapers, that's probably the majority of your time--and it may actually have a cache, which could affect measured times) |
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| [20:20:51] | psm321: | sphery: so my SD downloads are actually kinda slow, pobably because i have a lot of channels... around 40 seconds per day |
| [20:21:14] | psm321: | sphery: i think the baseline download time i have is around 10–12 minutes, plus then the processing overhead |
| [20:22:12] | psm321: | and the processing is where it makes a big difference. for example "clearing data from source" speeds up a lot (and remember even when i do a non-purge run i've still deleted everything from the program table because otherwise it's even slower) |
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| [20:22:29] | psm321: | as for my reschedules, they just take forever because i'm crazy and have way too many schedules |
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| [20:22:46] | psm321: | so what would probably be a small difference for most gets amplified i think |
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| [20:23:22] | psm321: | sphery: i do the full cycle pretty rarely, maybe every 3–4 months |
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| [20:23:46] | sphery: | psm321: yeah, cleaning out old/dead schedules is a good thing |
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| [20:24:49] | psm321: | sphery: eh, i should probably do that, but i'd have other issues with it (would take too long to explain) |
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| [21:03:02] | lwizardl: | hi |
| [21:05:24] | ajh: | So, anyone here using a HD-PVR (preferably more than one) in a production environment reliably yet? |
| [21:05:44] | ajh: | I do not mean headache free, but at least reliably between updates :) |
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| [21:26:53] | cornell: | Just did a scan, full scan atsc, cable, QAM-256... timed out on all, no tables. I thought that's what I'd done yesterday and gotten some. |
| [21:27:26] | cornell: | I'm just going to try various settings for "Frequency table" |
| [21:29:15] | wagnerrp: | your frequency table *should* be cable |
| [21:29:42] | wagnerrp: | its unlikely but possible you might want to use IRC or HRV |
| [21:29:46] | wagnerrp: | HRC |
| [21:29:56] | wagnerrp: | but IIRC, that only affects a couple channels |
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| [21:45:12] | RDV_Linux: | ajh: I only have one HD-PVR and it has been rock solid for many months now, assuming are using trunk you apply the patches as described in the wiki. |
| [21:46:14] | ajh: | Cool, I will do at least 2, probably in August/Sept, going nuts without proper scheduling on my PVR. |
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| [21:57:30] | jpabq: | ajh: I use two. I remember one person saying they were using four simultaneously. |
| [21:58:16] | gbee: | doubles up as central heating |
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| [22:00:53] | ajh: | I already have a MacPro :) |
| [22:01:04] | ajh: | I had to put a supplemental AC in this room this week. :) |
| [22:16:23] | wagnerrp: | gbee: ? i thought they only used like 10–15W under load |
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| [22:18:40] | gbee: | wagnerrp: it was a joke, I've never actually owned or seen one in person, I just hear people say that they run pretty warm |
| [22:20:09] | gbee: | one reason why they are external devices |
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| [22:20:48] | Uplink_: | hi |
| [22:22:41] | Uplink_: | Can anyone help me with some info about the MHEG implementation in MythTV regarding BBC's multiscreen sports option? |
| [22:23:12] | gbee: | try the question |
| [22:24:07] | Uplink_: | using google, I found that someone named juski said, in 2007, "hell, even the BBCi multiscreen thingy works :)" — exact quote |
| [22:24:08] | gbee: | multiscreen video is a cheat, it just tunes to another channel which has the 4 (or whatever) videos composited into a grid |
| [22:24:33] | gbee: | Uplink_: well it does, at least the BBC news multiscreen which is the only one they had at the time |
| [22:24:50] | Uplink_: | well, right now I get a "please wait message" |
| [22:24:55] | Uplink_: | and that's where it ends |
| [22:25:04] | Uplink_: | I don't even get the "cheat" stream :) |
| [22:25:16] | Uplink_: | and since that IRC log is from 2007, it makes me wonder :) |
| [22:26:17] | Uplink_: | I've seen the "cheat" stream when scanning raw sat, so I know what it looks like |
| [22:26:44] | Uplink_: | what I need to know is: can I get it from the MHEG screen that the BBC puts up? :) |
| [22:27:25] | Uplink_: | I've also seen mailing list posts about the multiscreen crashing the frontend (180 degrees turn from the 2007 claim) |
| [22:27:32] | gbee: | can't really comment, not going to check it tonight but most of the MHEG work was done against Freeview and I've not personally even tried it with Freesat |
| [22:27:58] | Uplink_: | alright... I can get a freeview wire to my machine in a few mins ;) |
| [22:27:59] | gbee: | Uplink_: never seen a bug report for that, so I wouldn't trust the claim that it causes a crash |
| [22:29:14] | Uplink_: | it was an e-mail from when 0.21 was almost released :) |
| [22:30:25] | Uplink_: | I can't give you a link to it, since I've bent my browser history into a pretzel trying to find some info on this multiscreen thing |
| [22:33:22] | Uplink_: | I'm currently using VDR, and thought I shoud try MythTV today, just for kicks, and so far VDR is going to the bin, fast. This multiscreen thing would almost seal the deal. |
| [22:33:59] | gbee: | wouldn't make much difference, something that old isn't much use, multiscreen seems broken with trunk which is interesting – shows how little people actually use MHEG |
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| [22:34:40] | Uplink_: | the UK is into MHEG like crazy |
| [22:34:50] | Uplink_: | they don't use MythTV for it, but that's a different story |
| [22:34:51] | gbee: | not really |
| [22:35:03] | Uplink_: | well, the guys I work with use it :) |
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| [22:35:43] | Uplink_: | they like it how Sky, Freesat and Freeview do it |
| [22:36:24] | gbee: | most people I know would sooner use the internet for retrieving info/news, the side channels get occasional use but those don't really count as MHEG, MHEG is just the tool to change the channel ;) |
| [22:36:57] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I know that when we update programinfo, we have to update NUMPROGITEMS for myth, mythweb, perl bindings, and python bindings, so I'd assume there's python code to parse a programinfo stringlist into some sort of program |
| [22:37:01] | Uplink_: | the Brits are weird, otherwise I wouldn't look into this :) |
| [22:38:12] | Uplink_: | gbee: if they can see 6 sporting events at the same time, and switch between them, they'll want that functionality, and moan if they can't have it |
| [22:38:27] | wagnerrp: | sphery: looking... |
| [22:38:52] | gbee: | heh, not that much into sport myself, and certainly not to the extent that I'll watch 6 events concurrently |
| [22:39:07] | Uplink_: | you don't live in the UK then :) |
| [22:39:20] | Uplink_: | that's all they do around here :D |
| [22:39:40] | mzb: | sphery: iirc it's all done with tuples and lists ... or have I missed something? |
| [22:39:40] | gbee: | could be they've annexed where I live recently, I've been too busy to notice |
| [22:39:58] | sphery: | mzb: I know nothing of python, so I'm sure I'm the one missing stuff... |
| [22:40:10] | sphery: | wagnerrp: PROGRAM_FIELDS = 46 in ---if not self.master_host: |
| [22:40:15] | mzb: | I think that's how it's done: a list of tuples |
| [22:40:17] | sphery: | "bindings/python/MythTV/MythTV.py |
| [22:40:21] | wagnerrp: | sphery: no... more that the python bindings is the one missing stuff |
| [22:40:22] | sphery: | oops bad paste |
| [22:40:25] | mzb: | (it's been a few months;) |
| [22:40:39] | sphery: | so, PROGRAM_FIELDS = 46 is what we change when we update programinfo |
| [22:40:42] | gbee: | I'll have to check Freesat's sport multiscreen tomorrow, but unless the problem is simple I wouldn't hope for a quick fix, the MHEG experts have been MIA lately |
| [22:41:24] | wagnerrp: | yeah, seems any mention of a 'Program object' in the python bindings just means 'title (recording start)' |
| [22:41:25] | mzb: | ie: if you're stripping separators then you're probably not doing it right ;) |
| [22:41:37] | wagnerrp: | it only exists for current and upcoming recordings |
| [22:41:43] | sphery: | wagnerrp: there's a class Program, and it seems its, er, constructor (?) parses the 46 fields from data |
| [22:41:52] | Uplink_: | gbee: your problem is Virgin Media then :) |
| [22:42:13] | wagnerrp: | so im back to the module being poorly self documented, and having hidden features |
| [22:42:15] | gbee: | VM's a problem now? |
| [22:42:39] | sphery: | wagnerrp: so, I'd assumd you could do some kind of: data = split('[]:[]', @programinfofrombackend) |
| [22:42:44] | sphery: | but in python, of course :) |
| [22:43:18] | Uplink_: | gbee: a colleague of mine says everyone at his house moans at him that his VM doesn't have the interactive part :) they use it on Freeview all the time :) |
| [22:43:26] | Uplink_: | anyway, I got a freeview wire pulled over |
| [22:43:30] | mzb: | have a look at my mythtv.py in the plugins dir of that archive |
| [22:43:31] | gbee: | glad to see the back of Sky, between VM, Freesat and Freeview I get all I want ... honestly I could like without VM too, but the TV package comes free with the phone |
| [22:43:34] | Uplink_: | let's see if this baby can do it |
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| [22:44:04] | gbee: | VM has MHEG and BBCi etc, but whether the sports component compares I can't say |
| [22:44:36] | gbee: | VM's news multiscreen is actually better than Freeviews |
| [22:45:16] | broseidon: | how do i enter samba or nfs addresses into mythtv storage directories? |
| [22:46:10] | wagnerrp: | you dont enter the samba or nfs addresses into storage directories |
| [22:46:12] | sphery: | broseidon: you have to mount them on the local filesystem, then enter them as if they were local dirs |
| [22:46:23] | wagnerrp: | you mount the file system, and then give the mount location to the storage directory |
| [22:46:36] | sphery: | no UNC names or anything ugly like that |
| [22:46:51] | broseidon: | i am having trouble getting them mounted also |
| [22:46:59] | wagnerrp: | note that you should not be storing to the root mount either |
| [22:47:23] | wagnerrp: | if the storage share is not mounted, you want mythtv to fail, rather than store large amounts of files to the parent file system |
| [22:48:30] | broseidon: | wagnerrp: this is so i can play the files on a myth box hooked up to my tv |
| [22:48:50] | wagnerrp: | recordings, you dont have to do anything |
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| [22:48:57] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will pull them through the backend |
| [22:49:19] | wagnerrp: | videos, music, pictures, do need to be mounted locally (in 0.21) |
| [22:50:47] | Uplink_: | gbee: I'm only interested in what MythTV can process right now |
| [22:51:08] | broseidon: | "The file for this recording cannot be found" |
| [22:51:27] | mzb: | "stream recordings from backend" |
| [22:51:39] | broseidon: | i can play it fine on the frontend on this computer(which is where the master backend is) |
| [22:51:41] | mzb: | is a setting in TV=> Playback (?) |
| [22:51:58] | broseidon: | ill look |
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| [22:59:49] | broseidon: | mzb: i set the stream recordings from backend option and it still gives me the error |
| [23:02:01] | sphery: | wagnerrp: I should probably mention, too, that even if there's a Program class, you may have to extend the bindings to create a Recording class. The recording contains some fields that aren't passed in the programinfo--things like hostname and basename. The Recording.pm file shows how the perl bindings do it, but basically, they do DB queries to get the extra info. |
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| [23:04:16] | Uplink_: | gbee: freeview is working 99% perfectly |
| [23:04:19] | Uplink_: | thanks for your help :) |
| [23:05:01] | clever: | i was going to install freeview last week but found it wasnt in the gentoo repo |
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| [23:06:24] | Uplink_: | just tested with BBC TWO (Glastonbury coverage) and it's amazing |
| [23:06:51] | wagnerrp: | sphery: no, it seems to have everything |
| [23:08:18] | wagnerrp: | it just currently has no way of outputting back into the myth data string |
| [23:08:47] | sphery: | ah, so just need a to_string or toString or to_String? |
| [23:08:54] | sphery: | it has basename, though? |
| [23:09:01] | sphery: | I don't see it in there--perhaps it's just in trunk |
| [23:09:06] | wagnerrp: | filename |
| [23:09:33] | sphery: | cool |
| [23:10:05] | sphery: | filename, though, would contain the file host, port, and basename if not local |
| [23:10:26] | sphery: | so, myth://masterbackend:6544/path/to/storage/group/filename.mpg |
| [23:10:45] | sphery: | so, perhaps you just need the QUERY_RECORDING, get a Program, and use the filename :) |
| [23:11:28] | wagnerrp: | i would still have to grab a list of storage groups, and then loop through them to find the one with the file |
| [23:11:34] | wagnerrp: | (although im currently doing that already) |
| [23:11:42] | sphery: | the filename should have the full path in it |
| [23:11:55] | sphery: | if non-local, with myth://hostname:port |
| [23:12:01] | sphery: | if local, just full pathname |
| [23:12:12] | wagnerrp: | nope, just the basename |
| [23:13:16] | sphery: | ok, guess you're right |
| [23:13:30] | wagnerrp: | at least on trunk coming out of QUERY_RECORDING |
| [23:13:38] | sphery: | yeah, I get that, too |
| [23:13:47] | sphery: | but the perl bindings have code to parse the Myth URI |
| [23:13:58] | wagnerrp: | im going to go ahead and add a couple extra functions |
| [23:13:59] | sphery: | guess from some places, it comes with all |
| [23:14:12] | wagnerrp: | i assume any time you have to use 'backendCommand' just means the bindings are incomplete |
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| [23:14:42] | sphery: | basically, if it's likely that others will also need that command, it makes sense to make access to it easier |
| [23:15:29] | sphery: | if nothing else, you should be able to run the backendCommand and put its response into something (i.e. use to create a new object, pass to a function to parse data and return some object or ...) |
| [23:15:50] | sphery: | manually parsing in the script means there's definitely missing functionality :) |
| [23:16:24] | wagnerrp: | and when i dump a program object to a string, its just all 46 items with a '[]:[]' betwen them? |
| [23:17:01] | sphery: | (like, really, in the perl bindings, there didn't seem to be anything to parse the results of QUERY_CHECKFILE, so knowing that it should be 1[]:[]/path/to/recording (where 1 is the number of rows returned), I just got the last element after tokenizing |
| [23:17:13] | sphery: | so that would be better in the bindings, probably) |
| [23:17:43] | sphery: | the string you need to pass to the backend for queries should be the programinfo in a []:[] separated list |
| [23:18:20] | sphery: | if multiple programinfo's, just []:[] the different ones together (i.e. no separator between programs in a list--it's parsed by number of programinfo items) |
| [23:18:32] | sphery: | no /special/ separator |
| [23:19:32] | wagnerrp: | well lets code this up and see what errors i end up with next, thanks |
| [23:19:49] | sphery: | good luck |
| [23:20:07] | sphery: | hope my "help" didn't send you on too many wild-goose chases :) |
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| [23:21:30] | zwabel_: | Hi, I'm using DVB-S in Germany on Astra, and my mythtv has completely stopped receiving epg information, anyone has an idea how to debug this? |
| [23:22:31] | sphery: | zwabel_: EIT or XMLTV? |
| [23:22:48] | zwabel_: | sphery: EIT |
| [23:23:17] | sphery: | mythbackend -v important,general,eit |
| [23:23:22] | sphery: | good start |
| [23:23:31] | zwabel_: | ok thanks will try and see what it tells |
| [23:24:11] | sphery: | also, make sure you have a current version of 0.21-fixes |
| [23:24:28] | sphery: | might have been some updates |
| [23:24:29] | zwabel_: | hmm |
| [23:24:39] | zwabel_: | ok so this output is suspicious enough I thkn: |
| [23:24:51] | zwabel_: | 2009-06–28 01:24:17.711 DB Error (Error clearing channel locks): |
| [23:24:52] | zwabel_: | Query was: |
| [23:24:53] | zwabel_: | DELETE FROM eit_cache WHERE status = 1 |
| [23:24:55] | zwabel_: | Driver error was [2/145]: |
| [23:24:56] | zwabel_: | QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query |
| [23:24:58] | zwabel_: | Database error was: |
| [23:24:59] | zwabel_: | Table './mythconverg/eit_cache' is marked as crashed and should be repaired |
| [23:25:02] | sphery: | pastebin! |
| [23:25:11] | sphery: | run optimize_mythdb.pl |
| [23:25:56] | zwabel_: | thanks will try that |
| [23:26:41] | sphery: | I recommend running that (while the backend is running), then restarting all backend(s)/frontend(s) |
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| [23:28:58] | zwabel_: | Ah I stopped the backend before already |
| [23:29:08] | zwabel_: | But now with the same debug output, it doesn't give that error |
| [23:29:11] | zwabel_: | So I guess it works now |
| [23:29:15] | zwabel_: | sphery: Thanks a lot |
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| [23:30:06] | sphery: | enjoy |
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| [23:49:53] | wagnerrp: | haha... if i split the incoming stream from 'QUERY_RECORDINGS', it takes so long the socket times out |
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| [23:51:39] | broseidon: | my frontend on another computer will not stream recordings from the master backend |
| [23:52:05] | wagnerrp: | if it can connect to the backend, it can stream recordings |
| [23:52:46] | broseidon: | are you supposed to connect a 2nd myth box to its own sql database? |
| [23:53:22] | wagnerrp: | if it had its own sql database, it would not be able to access the information that the backend wrote to its own database |
| [23:53:23] | Dagmar: | Everything uses ONE database |
| [23:53:26] | Dagmar: | one moment |
| [23:53:39] | broseidon: | ok well i keep getting the "cannot find recorded file" error |
| [23:54:00] | Dagmar: | Oi. Read this http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview |
| [23:54:01] | broseidon: | the file is playable on the mythbox that has the master backend |
| [23:54:05] | Dagmar: | Then you'll know how the pieces fit |
| [23:54:35] | Dagmar: | You probably need to mount the filesystem where the recordings live on the frontend |
| [23:54:54] | broseidon: | i have samba shares setup but have been unable to mount them |
| [23:55:16] | Dagmar: | You should probably be using NFS anyway |
| [23:55:36] | broseidon: | i couldnt get that to work either... |
| [23:56:15] | Dagmar: | Well, with respect to MythVideo, all files are assumed to be local |
| [23:56:24] | Dagmar: | With the backends, the files are assumed to be local to the backend |
| [23:56:26] | wagnerrp: | for the time being |
| [23:56:45] | broseidon: | dagmar: what is the best way to tell it to redirect and stream straight from the backend |
| [23:56:52] | broseidon: | i checked the box that is in one of the setup menus |
| [23:56:59] | wagnerrp: | however any frontend should be able to fall back to passing the stream over mythproto |
| [23:57:05] | wagnerrp: | or only use that if you check the box |
| [23:57:16] | Dagmar: | I started to recut parts of the ExecOver page to express that the filestores should be thought of as independent as well, and only exist on the same machine as the master backend as a matter of happy circumstance |
| [23:58:14] | wagnerrp: | if you cannot stream over mythproto, you need to start looking in your frontend and backend logs |
| [23:59:02] | wagnerrp: | if youre using your distro's init scripts to run mythtv, those should be in /var/log/mythtv |
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