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[00:10:30] DigitalNY: Anyone have one of the newer media center remotes? Black.. green vista – style window button in the center?
[00:10:49] DigitalNY: nevermind.. answered my own Q
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[01:48:01] DigitalNY: is there any way to set up one of the newer phillips media center remotes so you can enter a channel on the remote's numpad.. or for that matter.. is there anywhere I can find the default mapping of the buttons so I know what they all do.. lol
[01:49:31] Dagmar: Just the usual
[01:49:35] Dagmar: The LIRC documentation tells all about it
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[02:22:37] Wicked: hello all. im trying to figure out a way to transcode my recordings to xvid or x264 and i installed nuvexport...but it doesnt work...i ran it with debug and then did all the commands it spit out....and it seems nuvexport is using old flags and options. is there a better way to achieve what i want?
[02:24:46] Dagmar: One that works?
[02:25:13] Wicked: yea lol
[02:25:30] Wicked: i just wanna archive some shows to xvid or x264.
[02:25:52] Wicked: something along the lines of quality you would find from a "scene" tv release.
[02:26:00] Wicked: that or anything better
[02:39:43] Wicked: bah. none of these scripts ive found work
[02:40:13] Wicked: everything seems to be broken.....who would have though exporting a recording to xvid/x264 would be so difficult
[02:45:48] Dagmar: Anyone, basically.
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[02:50:23] Wicked: i would have though there was something that works by now
[02:59:08] Dagmar: Well, you also might think people would have stopped making cooked video files too, but you'd be wrong about that one as well
[03:02:11] Shadow__X: is there a way to get a capture cards firmware to be loaded without having to reboot
[03:03:14] Wicked: modprobe
[03:03:33] Wicked: ie modprobe nameOfModule
[03:04:39] Shadow__X: so if its something like this
[03:04:40] Shadow__X: sudo cp cx18-firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware/$KERNEL_VERSION/
[03:04:55] Shadow__X: i would modprobe the .fw files?
[03:05:56] Wicked: i dont think so
[03:06:24] Wicked: for my card(pvr-150) i had to put the firmware in /lib/firmware then reload the module for the card
[03:07:07] DigitalNY: I'd do... sudo cp cx18-firmware/*.fw /lib/firmware/ && sudo rmmod cx18 && modprobe cx18
[03:07:14] DigitalNY: Or at least that worked for me today ;-)
[03:07:32] DigitalNY: the end of that should be sudo modprobe.. I forgot the sudo
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[03:42:37] mattwj2002: hi guys
[03:42:40] mattwj2002: I need some help
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[03:43:00] mattwj2002: myfrontend isn't working
[03:43:14] mattwj2002: it has never worked....I installed ubuntu 9.04 64-bit
[03:43:40] mattwj2002: I get a black square in the middle of the screen and that is it
[03:43:45] mattwj2002: anyone have any ideas?
[03:44:05] mattwj2002: *rectangle not a square sorry
[03:45:08] Essobi: any other video working?
[03:46:14] mattwj2002: oh yeah definitely
[03:46:24] mattwj2002: kaffeine, vlc, totem all work
[03:54:39] Essobi: wierd
[03:54:57] Essobi: what distro and video drivers?
[03:55:18] Essobi: did you build it or use packages?
[03:55:46] mattwj2002: packages
[03:55:53] mattwj2002: ubuntu 9.04 amd64
[03:56:13] mattwj2002: how do I check the video driver?
[03:56:18] Essobi: right i read that now..
[03:56:20] Essobi: umm
[03:56:23] Essobi: ...
[03:57:34] Essobi: lspci should help
[03:59:32] mattwj2002: http://pastebin.ca/1415998
[04:01:13] Essobi: you running the restricted drivers for the ATI card?
[04:01:49] mattwj2002: nope
[04:02:11] mattwj2002: so I give that a try?
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[04:02:53] Essobi: ya
[04:02:54] Essobi: I would
[04:02:58] Essobi: umm
[04:03:19] Essobi: ya
[04:03:23] Essobi: give that a try
[04:03:42] Essobi: I assume you're running a standard apt-get?
[04:03:49] mattwj2002: yup
[04:03:50] mattwj2002: :)
[04:03:59] Essobi: looked at mythbuntu?
[04:04:22] mattwj2002: yeah I have thought about just reinstalling
[04:04:33] Essobi: I don't think you have to..
[04:04:44] Essobi: apt-cache search mythbuntu
[04:05:06] Essobi: if anything you can get the apt sources for it and convert it
[04:05:13] Essobi: I'm headed to bed
[04:05:15] Essobi: later
[04:05:37] mattwj2002: thanks
[04:05:39] mattwj2002: good night!
[04:05:40] mattwj2002: :D
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[04:24:12] mattwj2002: I am trying the svn version of mythtv
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[05:41:08] DigitalNY: Alrighty.. got mythtv working great for analog with my hvr-1600.. but am getting wicked out of sync audio with QAM-64 digital
[05:41:23] DigitalNY: Any ideas? My google-fu is apparently kinda weak tonight
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[05:46:05] Shadow__X: its the streams fault
[05:46:10] Shadow__X: do toher channels work fine
[05:46:10] Shadow__X: ?
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[05:47:13] DigitalNY: yeah.. all my analog channels work fine.. but all of my digital channels have audio lag
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[05:47:33] Shadow__X: hmm thats odd
[05:47:50] Shadow__X: whats the specs of the system
[05:48:08] DigitalNY: takes forever to tune the channel when I choose a digital from the program guide (like a good 20secs) and get slightly choppy video & alot of audio lag..
[05:48:31] Shadow__X: hmm record it without watching the channel
[05:48:34] DigitalNY: Athlon64 3000+ 1.5G ram 2.5TB hdd, 256M Nvidia 6200, Hauppauge HVR-1600
[05:48:54] Shadow__X: have you installed the video drivers
[05:48:58] Shadow__X: the nvidia ones
[05:49:11] Shadow__X: also check cpu usage when you are watching the digital stream
[05:49:13] DigitalNY: using the nvidia proprietary.. yeah.. and using a tv as my only output
[05:49:25] DigitalNY: I'll fire up top over an ssh connection and watch it
[05:50:03] Shadow__X: k
[05:50:31] DigitalNY: mythtvfrontend.real is running ~30% cpu util watching a digital stream.. and that's the highest process cpu-wise
[05:51:11] Shadow__X: what do you mean by slightly choppy
[05:51:23] Shadow__X: and can you watch other videos on the machine
[05:51:27] DigitalNY: like playing a game at 1fps
[05:52:05] DigitalNY: plays dvd's & xvids fine..
[05:52:14] Shadow__X: hmm
[05:52:30] DigitalNY: the audio lag is a good 1–2secs behind
[05:52:33] Shadow__X: load up frontend from terminal
[05:52:39] DigitalNY: I'll try recording it
[05:52:42] Shadow__X: see if it outputs issues there
[05:52:45] Shadow__X: also check the logs
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[05:58:26] DigitalNY: it's got audio lag recorded also.. :-/
[05:58:36] Shadow__X: what does
[05:58:41] DigitalNY: If this keeps up I'm going to end up going out and buying a HDHomeRun
[05:58:48] DigitalNY: the recording of the digital stream
[05:58:57] Shadow__X: did you try watching it from another machine
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[05:59:29] DigitalNY: yeah.. it's laggy on my core2duo laptop also
[05:59:47] Shadow__X: it seems as if your streams are messed up
[05:59:51] Shadow__X: but that doesnt sound right
[06:00:16] Shadow__X: how did you install the hvr-1600
[06:02:06] DigitalNY: I threw it in the machine and did a fresh install of mythbuntu.. it's set up as a ivtv mpeg-2 encoder for the analog side & dvb3 for the digital side
[06:02:14] mchou: DigitalNY: ditch hvr-1600
[06:02:25] mchou: DigitalNY: that HW is POS
[06:02:42] DigitalNY: Wish I'd known that before I ordered it from amazon ;-)
[06:02:44] mchou: DigitalNY: it's severely broken
[06:03:26] mchou: poor tuner, no pid filtering, heavy PCI utilization, the list doesnt stop there
[06:03:40] mchou: total crap
[06:04:26] mchou: "tuning takes forever" is just the tip of the iceberg
[06:04:43] Shadow__X: what would directly replace it then
[06:05:01] Shadow__X: analog mpeg encoder and digital tuner on one card
[06:05:10] mchou: I dont think a worse tuner currently exists on the market
[06:05:23] DigitalNY: guess I'll end up keeping it for analog / fm and buy an hdhomerun for digital.. returning it to amazon is more of a nightmare than just using it for analog.. lol
[06:05:47] mchou: DigitalNY: umm, analog has issues too (unless they fixed it)
[06:06:05] DigitalNY: analog works great for me.. and that's what most people were having issues with..
[06:06:11] mchou: the analog side needs to be 'primed' after a reboot
[06:06:27] DigitalNY: yeah.. i've got it tuning & discarding a 2 sec clip
[06:08:10] mchou: I kid you not, I got 1600 for $20 and I still feel ripped off
[06:08:19] mchou: that's how bad it is
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[06:40:09] frogonwheels: I have a strange situation where in live tv, the program guide seems to be loaded fine.. but when I switch to the program guide with 's' .. it's all 'unknown'.. except if I press / and view just my favourites.. in which case all my programs aare visible. (Using SHepherd guide)
[06:40:21] frogonwheels: sorry for post to dev channel.
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[07:52:18] ciphergoth: Does anyone know if this remote control http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000NMSI86/ is one of the ones on this page http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Remote_Controls ?
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[08:01:15] gagbro: ciphergoth: it should work as a generic MCE remote, but it's not specifically in the list
[08:01:25] gagbro: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Generic_HID_%22MCE%22_Remotes
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[10:43:19] ServerSage: Anybody running Mythbuntu Jaunty Jackalope and experiencing mythtv crashes when a recording stops?
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[10:46:21] laga: ServerSage: the mythbuntu project would appreciate a bug report
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[10:47:30] ServerSage: laga: Before filing, I wanted to seek out others with the issue. Could just be me. *shrug*
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[12:24:11] psi: hi all i have just brought 2 x videomate s350's linux seems to have already installed them mythtv does pick them up i can add a card (not sure what to use ) and can scan for channels but none are found
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[12:33:34] gbee: psi – are you using them as a digital or analogue card?
[12:35:41] psi: there digital but when i try and choose dvb tells me it can't open card
[12:37:55] superdump: is there some easy way to nuke my db and make a fresh one?
[12:40:44] superdump: well, i know how to make a fresh one, i just don't know how to remove the old one
[12:42:17] superdump: ah, sorry
[12:42:20] superdump: it's in the docs
[12:42:22] superdump: i apologise
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[12:56:52] gbee: psi: ls /dev/dvb/
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[13:53:23] squidly: morning
[13:53:29] squidly: morning
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[14:01:27] hein1: Hello all
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[14:05:20] hein1: May I post a short question?
[14:06:52] squidly: Nope, but you can ask and hope someone has an answer for ya ;)
[14:07:13] hein1: That's nice. :-)
[14:07:33] squidly: hein1: sorry being a smart mouth
[14:07:46] hein1: How can I reset mythmusi. I want to delete my MP3s an make a clean import.
[14:07:49] squidly: best bet is to ask your question
[14:08:12] hein1: Yes it's best bet, but I would be friendly. :-)
[14:08:28] squidly: well you can delete the files, and and then head to the system interface and have it check
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[14:09:10] hein1: I've deleted files, but the songs aren't deleted from the database.
[14:09:22] squidly: i forget
[14:09:41] squidly: sorry :(
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[14:10:28] phunyguy_work: :(
[14:10:33] phunyguy_work: my server died yesterday
[14:10:40] phunyguy_work: had a SCSI drive go
[14:10:43] phunyguy_work: took my VMs with it
[14:10:55] hein1: Server died, then call the undertaker.
[14:11:01] hein1: Sorry bad joke.
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[14:12:08] hein1: squidly: just removing the mp3's didn't work. What do you mean with have it check? I haven't seen such menu entry so long.
[14:12:10] squidly: phunyguy_work: ouch
[14:12:36] squidly: hein1: check under setting -> media
[14:12:45] squidly: I think it's there
[14:12:50] hein1: phunyguy_work: Did you have a kind of backup?
[14:13:24] hein1: Okay I'll look for it. If it works it would be great. Thanks.
[14:14:12] phunyguy_work: yes, but its too old
[14:14:17] phunyguy_work: was like 6 months – aka worthless
[14:14:30] squidly: np hein1
[14:14:33] phunyguy_work: not a huge deal, but one of the VMs was my mysql server
[14:14:38] squidly: sorry it's been a while sence I updated my system
[14:14:42] phunyguy_work: which included the myth database
[14:14:45] hein1: Oh, sounds that the backup has the same quality then mine.
[14:14:45] squidly: phunyguy_work: ouch, ouch ouch
[14:14:48] phunyguy_work: :(
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[14:15:07] phunyguy_work: that'll teach me to RAID0 a server
[14:15:17] phunyguy_work: only way i could get the space i needed though
[14:15:20] phunyguy_work: oh wellz.
[14:15:25] phunyguy_work: now i only have 1 drive in there
[14:15:31] hein1: RAID0 didn't replace a Backup.
[14:15:34] phunyguy_work: with a scheduled backup job
[14:16:26] squidly: ouch
[14:16:30] phunyguy_work: you live and you learn
[14:16:36] squidly: phunyguy_work: yea raid0 == you dont like your data ;)
[14:16:37] phunyguy_work: last drive i had go bad was 15 years ago.
[14:16:44] phunyguy_work: so i took the risk.
[14:16:47] phunyguy_work: :)
[14:16:54] squidly: lol
[14:17:17] hein1: Yes I live and mybe I'll learn, otherwise stupid born stupid died.
[14:17:20] hein1: :-)
[14:17:24] phunyguy_work: lol
[14:17:34] phunyguy_work: oh well, im over it now
[14:17:37] phunyguy_work: also done with VMs
[14:17:41] phunyguy_work: nothing but a pain.
[14:17:51] phunyguy_work: ill just make it one big macho server
[14:17:55] phunyguy_work: that does everything
[14:18:10] squidly: phunyguy_work: if I do VM's I like xen for them
[14:18:24] phunyguy_work: yah but Xen never worked well for me
[14:18:29] phunyguy_work: i have been using VirtualBox
[14:19:05] squidly: phunyguy_work: really?
[14:19:06] hein1: Virtualbox is much better (sorry I've to say, it's from my employer :-) )
[14:19:13] squidly: I've had xen work well
[14:19:17] squidly: hein1: lol
[14:19:17] Cancel: esx is free even these days, plenty of options
[14:19:28] phunyguy_work: well last time i used Xen was some years ago
[14:19:29] squidly: Cancel: yea esx has issues though
[14:19:32] gbee: hein1: Utilities/Setup -> Music Tools -> Scan For Music
[14:19:35] phunyguy_work: i cant use ESX
[14:19:36] squidly: phunyguy_work: I used it just recentrly
[14:19:40] phunyguy_work: not buying the web admin option
[14:19:41] Cancel: squidly: what doesn't have issues?
[14:19:49] phunyguy_work: and i dont have a windows box to admin it
[14:19:59] Cancel: phunyguy_work: my windows box to admin it is a vm
[14:19:59] hein1: But to be realistic. I'll working with Linux and in a VMs (Virtualbox) a windows Server 2003 ist runing.
[14:20:01] Cancel: :)
[14:20:03] squidly: Cancel: yea but ability to upgrade with out losting a lot of data
[14:20:04] hein1: Works great
[14:20:08] phunyguy_work: yeah yeah
[14:20:18] Cancel: squidly: I upgrade fine never lose data
[14:20:26] hein1: Thanks gbee
[14:20:31] squidly: Cancel: from esx to esxi
[14:20:42] squidly: our NI here had tried that several times and had some issues
[14:20:43] Cancel: I said esx, not esx i
[14:20:51] Cancel: anyways plenty of options for virtualization
[14:20:52] Cancel: free
[14:20:56] squidly: very true
[14:21:24] squidly: vmware server, esx (freeware), virtualbox, xen, kvm...
[14:21:32] gbee: just don't get the hype around using VMs with a desktop machine
[14:21:32] squidly: there are tons os ways to do ie
[14:21:45] squidly: gbee: its nice for testing something
[14:21:51] squidly: I use a vm to test vpnclient setups
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[14:22:02] gbee: I'm not saying there aren't times when it serves a purpose, but mostly ...
[14:22:02] Cancel: gbee: because most new desktop machines can handle it and sit largely idle
[14:22:21] gbee: Cancel: so you do it just because you can?
[14:22:28] hein1: VMs on a desktop machine are nice for a handfull programms that dind't run under your prefered OS
[14:22:48] squidly: and testing ;)
[14:23:02] hein1: Yep
[14:23:12] squidly: I also use it to test out malware with out infecting my box
[14:23:22] Cancel: gbee: in part because if I couldn't I wouldn't but I've got plenty of apps that simply don't wine well and I'm a unix and osx user so virtualization is a great fit for me and I like the few virtual appliances I have like dimdim servers
[14:28:14] squidly: 3^lol
[14:28:17] squidly: oops
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[15:38:55] iamlindoro: Well, here I am at work, time for today's bit of soul to wither and die
[15:39:44] laga: iamlindoro: 5:40pm for me..
[15:39:55] iamlindoro: *sigh*
[15:42:54] squidly: iamlindoro: I feel you there
[15:43:04] laga: iamlindoro: going to ride my bike now, something i've been looking forward to all week
[15:43:16] laga: iamlindoro: then, there will be beer...
[15:43:24] iamlindoro: !trout laga rub-it-in
[15:43:24] ** MythLogBot slaps laga with a rub-it-in trout on behalf of iamlindoro... **
[15:43:34] laga: :)
[15:43:41] iamlindoro: And special thanks go out to y boss for scheduling a 4:30 meeting on a Friday
[15:43:44] iamlindoro: er to my
[15:44:23] meshe: don't you hate that? my boss kept booking interviews friday afternoons, our interviews run for 4+ hours
[15:45:10] iamlindoro: Saw Star Trek last night, was almost like getting a jump on the weekend
[15:45:27] ** FR^2 is marked busy on Mo-Fr 11.30 -12.15 and additionally on fridays from 15.00 til 19.00 ;) **
[15:46:04] meshe: i've always been able to bank hours in the week and take off early on fridays
[15:46:27] FR^2: meshe: Nice if your employer allows it ;)
[15:46:53] meshe: they have for years now, though it might change coming up (now the discresion of the manager)
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[16:19:37] phunyguy_work: OK, I recreated my mythtv database on the SQL server, how do I get the backend to rebuild what it needs?
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[17:09:00] gbee: anyone have the firmware for the PVR-150? link in the IVTV wiki is broken and the version supplied for Mandriva looks to be out of date
[17:09:10] ** sid3windr <- **
[17:09:31] iamlindoro: gbee: Which files are they?
[17:09:50] sid3windr: ivtv 0000:11:09.0: firmware: requesting v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[17:09:52] sid3windr: ^
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[17:11:02] gbee: v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[17:11:37] iamlindoro: gbee: http://www.fecitfacta.com/v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw
[17:11:42] sid3windr: meh ;)
[17:11:43] iamlindoro: http://www.fecitfacta.com/v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw
[17:11:54] ** sid3windr was 1s faster! :] **
[17:12:45] iamlindoro: Though I guess you don't also need the decode, oh well
[17:13:08] sphery: iamlindoro: figured out my "hardware" problem...
[17:13:17] iamlindoro: sphery: hm?
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[17:13:34] dubstar_04: I want to get peoples views in this http://lh4.ggpht.com/_yGkw0Cr-R9E/SgRn-hOFtLI . . . 800/roku.png
[17:13:37] sphery: the problem where I was getting recordings with no files
[17:13:46] iamlindoro: sphery: Ah, yeah, what was it?
[17:14:05] sphery: turns out that in the digital changeover (now, without any specific date) one of the local stations switched the frequency on which they broadcast
[17:14:14] iamlindoro: ahhhh
[17:14:19] iamlindoro: yeah, that'd do it :)
[17:14:24] sphery: however, I got failed recordings on all channels, so I didn't recognize the correlation at first
[17:15:08] sphery: it turns out that the HD-3000, when tuned to a bad channel gets into a bad state that causes a no-recording-file for the show on the bad channel /and/ for the next show that's recorded--regardless of channel
[17:15:19] sphery: the A-180, however, "recovers" for the next recording
[17:15:20] phunyguy_work: OK, I recreated my mythtv database on the SQL server, how do I get the backend to rebuild what it needs?
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[17:15:38] iamlindoro: sphery: Well that sucks-- rescanned and all is well, I presume?
[17:15:43] sphery: yep
[17:15:55] sphery: wish someone had linked me to my Delete all post :)
[17:16:15] sphery: not a big deal--only missed 2 "must-have" recordings. Hoping for reruns
[17:16:18] iamlindoro: We don't all have gossamer threads hotkeys like you do ;)
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[17:16:32] sphery: could have been worse--considering how long I was gone
[17:17:15] iamlindoro: Dollhouse season finale tonight-- I will be sad if it's the series finale, sigh
[17:17:25] sphery: it is fox...
[17:17:39] iamlindoro: And Whedon
[17:18:37] phunyguy_work: can someone help me? I ran mythtv-setup, but that did nothing, mythfilldatabase errors out saying it cant find any tables in the database, although it is connecting to the new empty database just fine
[17:18:47] sphery: heh, accidentally turned on LiveTV 40mins ago
[17:19:02] phunyguy_work: just cant figure out how to get it to rebuild with a fresh database template
[17:19:14] iamlindoro: dubstar_04: I think that's quite nice looking-- I assume from the filename that it's patterned after the roku player?
[17:19:22] sphery: phunyguy_work: template not supported.
[17:19:27] sphery: phunyguy_work: empty database works
[17:19:34] sphery: phunyguy_work: or full database works
[17:19:42] phunyguy_work: hmmm?
[17:19:57] phunyguy_work: it is completely empty right now
[17:20:01] sphery: are you trying to do some kind of restore?
[17:20:04] phunyguy_work: no.
[17:20:10] phunyguy_work: lost my VMs this weekend
[17:20:15] phunyguy_work: created a new server
[17:20:19] phunyguy_work: (LAMP)
[17:20:21] sphery: ok, please pastebin the output from running mythtv-setup
[17:20:28] phunyguy_work: there is no output
[17:20:37] sphery: in the terminal?
[17:20:38] sid3windr: :|
[17:20:41] phunyguy_work: it stops the backend, runs the gui, then starts the backend
[17:20:47] phunyguy_work: (after you close gui)
[17:20:48] sphery: might have to do some garbage like mythtv-setup.real
[17:20:53] phunyguy_work: ok.
[17:20:56] meshe: mythtv-setup.real
[17:20:59] sphery: stop backends, first
[17:22:10] phunyguy_work: hah
[17:22:12] phunyguy_work: that did it
[17:22:14] phunyguy_work: :)
[17:22:18] phunyguy_work: its there now
[17:22:26] phunyguy_work: was missing the .real
[17:22:29] sphery: the distro scripts were probably doing stuff to help
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[17:23:45] phunyguy_work: yep – good to go now
[17:23:54] phunyguy_work: awesome :)
[17:24:08] phunyguy_work: thanks
[17:25:11] dubstar_04: iamlindoro: yeah I saw the roku interface a while back and started this theme for 0.22 but my laptop broke. I am now working on a 0.21 theme that I will mod later
[17:28:04] dubstar_04: Anyone have any idea when a stable version of 0.22 will be available?
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[17:29:10] meshe: sometime after today
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[17:32:27] dubstar_04: meshe: thanks thats exactly the answer I was looking for...
[17:33:18] meshe: there hasn't been any announcement yet, the best i've heard is in a few months
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[17:36:54] dubstar_04: meshe: thats cool cheers, i am aswell carry on with what im doing then
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[18:14:57] phunyguy_work: sweeeet my myth is back.
[18:16:06] ** J-e-f-f-A cheers – had to re-learn my MCE remote, but now both the MCE and Sky + remote work on my MCE USB receiver... **
[18:28:49] J-e-f-f-A: ... For some reason, the Sky+ remote changed a mode in the MCE USB receiver causing RC6 remotes to output 21 bits instead of 16... The receiver still worked on a Wintel box, but not with LIRC...
[18:29:17] meshe: nice
[18:29:34] meshe: i should get my Kameleon remote configured for lirc
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[18:30:51] J-e-f-f-A: meshe: Yeah, a bit strange... But it's working now, so I'll live. But if I took that MCE USB2 receiver to another loonix box, I'd have to take the 'new' config file with me too... strange – winblows must know about 'both' code sets/possibilities...
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[18:32:54] meshe: you should always back up your config files anyway, makes for easy disaster recovery
[18:33:26] J-e-f-f-A: backup? What's that? ;-) Hehehehe... Just kidding.  ;-)
[18:34:27] meshe: :)
[18:34:59] meshe: xorg.conf is the file that i *always* backup on myth boxes, as it seems to be the part of setup that always gives me the most problems
[18:35:51] J-e-f-f-A: ... Then again, doing something a couple of times over from 'scratch' (aka memory) helps to learn it better... ;-) And usually always ends up better the next time around. ;-)
[18:37:00] meshe: true, but memory tends to fade, and the time that i usually need to do such things is over a year later
[18:39:05] J-e-f-f-A: meshe: Yeah, over the last couple of years I've started to suffer from CRS (Can't Remember Sh...)  — so any reminders/backups/notes I take help alot... ;-)
[18:39:27] ** J-e-f-f-A needs a memory upgrade.  ;-) **
[18:40:15] meshe: yeah, i had my own wiki and source control to help me remember, but I kept forgetting to use it ;)
[18:40:30] J-e-f-f-A: rotfl! ;-)
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[18:42:08] meshe: then someone hacked my wiki and put a udp flooder on my webserver and attacked a bunch of people from my IP with my 30Mb connection
[18:42:38] J-e-f-f-A: Yikes. Yeah, that could be bad for you, especially if you had a static IP. ;-)
[18:42:46] meshe: i did
[18:42:58] sid3windr: how does that make a difference?
[18:43:02] meshe: static ip and a fiber connection
[18:43:53] J-e-f-f-A: sid3windr: easy for them to come back and attack you again in the future, since your IP remains the same...
[18:44:06] meshe: i caught it before anyone complained to my ISP, I called them up after I fixed it and told them what had happened
[18:44:31] Dagmar: J-e-f-f-A: That pretty much amounts to nothing
[18:44:38] sid3windr: J-e-f-f-A: uhh.. sure :p
[18:45:10] meshe: especially since they hacked me through my website
[18:49:42] J-e-f-f-A: meshe: btw: got joomla installed on my site, but didn't figure out how to change the images in the template yet... So for now my test has the "Joomla!" image in the background... ;-)
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[19:07:42] RDV_Linux: Iamlindoro: I just got 2x1TB WD Green drives. I understand you also have the same drives. Are you using ext4 on them? Do you have any positive or negative comments on ext4. These drives will be used to hold my HD-PVR recordings almost exclusively.
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[19:08:07] iamlindoro: RDV_Linux: I do indeed have those drives, love them-- not using EXT4, though, they're all XFS here
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[19:08:52] honk: mythtv recordings work great with xfs and a large allocsize =)
[19:09:06] RDV_Linux: Looks like I need to do some reading. Thanks for the quick response.
[19:09:12] iamlindoro: np
[19:11:56] Shadow__X: iamlindoro, what speed do you get on them
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[19:12:28] darkdrgn2k: ping mzb
[19:12:30] iamlindoro: "Fast enough to record from five tuners at once without issue," or,"never slow enough to care enough to benchmark" ;)
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[19:12:54] Shadow__X: :)
[19:14:21] iamlindoro: I suppose if I had any reason to know/care how quickly I could blast data on to the drives I would care more, but they are perfect for my myth needs and beyond that I have better things to do with my time, like contemplate navel lint
[19:14:43] Shadow__X: what is there to contemplate
[19:15:15] iamlindoro: What combination of shirts I have to wear to get a rainbow
[19:15:27] gagbro: :)
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[19:15:38] Shadow__X: hmm i wonder how different materials would effect that
[19:15:49] Shadow__X: also how unclean do you have to be to have that much lint
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[19:16:06] iamlindoro: We have some channel members who might have a whole sweater in there
[19:16:21] iamlindoro: not to mention navel fold enough to fit one
[19:16:27] Shadow__X: :)
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[19:25:54] JSidhu: does anyone know if I can use Avermedia Bravo Hybrid PCI-E (H788) tv tuner card with MythTV?
[19:26:16] JSidhu: i want to buy a card that is compatible with linux, any recommendations?
[19:27:30] Dagmar: Look at the video4linux site
[19:27:55] Dagmar: For pete's sake SOMEONE on the internet will eventually learn how to use a search engine
[19:28:48] JSidhu: i actually searched, but didnt use the correct keywords
[19:28:57] timonator: who is that pete guy anyway?
[19:29:12] iamlindoro: JSidhu: www.linuxtv.org is the site you want, check their wiki
[19:29:18] JSidhu: thanks
[19:29:21] _abbenormal: linux compatible dvb cards
[19:29:26] JSidhu: looking at it now
[19:29:26] Dagmar: JSidhu: Perhaps next time you'll try some related to what you're searching for
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[19:30:01] JSidhu: Dagmar: and how do you suppose i do that when I dont know about it, i came here, you pointed me in the right direction, so thanks. but no need to be an ass about it
[19:30:24] iamlindoro: JSidhu: But looks like a no on that one
[19:30:39] Dagmar: No need to try and excuse the fact you only made a half-hearted attempt at searching by lying to us either.
[19:30:43] Dagmar: We don't freaking care.
[19:30:48] Dagmar: We're used to it.
[19:30:55] iamlindoro: JSidhu: If you are looking for ATSC/QAM, the Hauppauge HVR-1250 works great for both, and is PCIe/inenxpensive
[19:30:57] JSidhu: apparently u do, the way ur PMSing about it
[19:31:13] Dagmar: Failing at searching is fine, but acting like something mysteriously hid half the internet from you is w-e-a-k
[19:31:18] JSidhu: iamlindoro: no, ATSC not required.. i just want a good card that will work properly with linux and windows
[19:31:37] iamlindoro: JSidhu: Well, which format are you intending to capture?
[19:31:44] JSidhu: ok Dagmar.. keep going bro if it makes u feel better
[19:31:53] Dagmar: Last word.
[19:31:56] JSidhu: iam: analog tv, and perhaps some more analog inputs
[19:32:07] JSidhu: Dagmar: lol
[19:32:32] iamlindoro: JSidhu: In that case, a second hand Hauppauge PVR-150 would be fine, or if you need a new card, the HVR-1600... both of those cards are PCI, however
[19:32:53] JSidhu: 1600 is supported?
[19:32:57] iamlindoro: Yes
[19:33:04] JSidhu: ok, thank you!
[19:33:14] JSidhu: does 1600 come in a half height PCI by any chance
[19:33:22] J-e-f-f-A: don't think so...
[19:33:27] iamlindoro: I am fairly certain there is a half-height 1600
[19:33:42] JSidhu: doesn't look liek it, its huge
[19:33:54] J-e-f-f-A: 150 is probably your only half-height option.
[19:33:55] iamlindoro: There are multiple models, and it's not huge
[19:34:24] iamlindoro: ISTR that the low profile 1600 was out early on in the run, it may not be around any more
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[19:35:47] J-e-f-f-A: iamlindoro: Is the 2250 officially supported yet? ;-)
[19:36:07] iamlindoro: J-e-f-f-A: http://www.steventoth.net/blog/hvr-2250/
[19:36:11] iamlindoro: The 13th, looks like
[19:36:39] iamlindoro: stoth: Hey, the 13th is Wednesday :)
[19:38:02] iamlindoro: Wonder if he means the 11th, that'd be even better
[19:38:04] stoth: iamlindoro: second time you got me!
[19:38:08] iamlindoro: heheh
[19:38:13] stoth: lemme change that
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[19:38:39] iamlindoro: If I keep this up you're going to think I'm running around proofreading you :)
[19:39:14] iamlindoro: I have spare PCIe slots, wonder if it's time to pick up a 2250
[19:39:33] JSidhu: i wonder if i should too.. maybe just wait and see eh?
[19:40:02] iamlindoro: JSidhu: Unless you're adventurous, it might be best to hold off... the 2250 will have no analog support at all to start AFAIK
[19:40:18] stoth: fixed.
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[19:40:54] iamlindoro: Hmmmmmmm
[19:41:07] iamlindoro: I have all these Christmas Best Buy Gift Cards, wonder if they carry it
[19:41:09] J-e-f-f-A: wow, that was fast, he fixed the analog support quickly...  ;-) hehehehe
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[19:41:26] Dagmar: iamlindoro: Check the website
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[19:42:28] iamlindoro: Not worth paying the Best Buy premium
[19:42:36] Dagmar: But they're free
[19:42:46] iamlindoro: I've really got more QAM tuners than I need now anyway
[19:42:47] Dagmar: You have gift cards.
[19:43:08] iamlindoro: Yeah, but those gift cards could just as easily go towards more media-- some decent Blu ray coming down the pipe
[19:43:14] laga: iamlindoro: btw, past the beer part now.
[19:43:26] iamlindoro: laga: Erm... I had lunch just now, go me?
[19:43:31] laga: heh
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[19:44:55] oscar: How can I get the current svn?
[19:45:13] iamlindoro: svn.mythtv.org
[19:45:24] Dagmar: Someone's probably selling it cheap on ebay
[19:45:59] oscar: iamlindoro: is correct "svn co http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-21-fixes/"& nbsp;?
[19:46:08] iamlindoro: yep
[19:46:28] Dagmar: wait no! That'll erase your whole machine!
[19:49:09] oscar: thanks :) I'm testing about a feedback on a bug :)
[19:49:09] oscar: but i'm not so confident with svn :)
[19:49:09] oscar: see you later :) thanks
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[20:29:09] oscar: I'm doing a channel scan, on dvb-t, fresh installed system. looking at logs, I see it is looking in a series of frequency: which list is using?
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[20:37:53] wagnerrp: it should be using the list you gave it
[20:38:01] wagnerrp: it asks you which frequency table to use before the scan
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[20:47:20] oscar: wagnerrp: ok, but I'm in Italy, and in the drop-down-list, Italy is not present...
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[20:51:40] oscar: I'm using Germany from List, but I'd like to see where are the frequency list it uses
[20:52:30] oscar: why 746000000 just after 738000000? where is definde?
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[20:58:40] squidly: anyknow why I get a high pick screach sound when I pause then unpause a movie or a recoarding?
[20:59:31] bulle: squidly: its a gnome thats get caugh in the gears ,when you unpuse, you need to unpause more gently so the gnome has time to get away, and dont get crushed
[21:00:18] laga: bulle: ++
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[21:17:49] squidly: bulle: lol
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[21:39:37] Tacroy: Hello, I'm trying to figure out how to migrate an existing mythtv install to new hardware
[21:39:47] Tacroy: So far I've found this: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.7
[21:40:10] Tacroy: But from what I can tell of the tables, all that's being saved is the recorded programs
[21:40:39] Tacroy: I don't want to have to re-do all the scheduled program recordings.
[21:41:02] Tacroy: Does this already handle that, or do I need to save other databases too?
[21:42:11] squidly: Tacroy: man mysql-dump
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[21:43:27] Tacroy: I know what that does; I guess a shorter version of my question would be "what table(s) does mythtv keep recording schedules in"
[21:43:51] squidly: Tacroy: a couple of them actually. I would recomend just copying the whole database
[21:44:12] Tacroy: Rightyo then
[21:44:25] meshe: backup the whole db and restore it on the new hardware make sure the hostname is the same on both
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[21:47:20] afief: I want to have a box sit beside my TV and play videos which I select(from my ultra portable or using a wireless mouse) is mythtv what I'm looking for? most of the documentation I found talks about recording
[21:48:29] meshe: probably xbmc if you just want to play videos you already have
[21:48:53] meshe: though, i did use mythtv for a year without a tuner card just for mythvideo
[21:49:49] afief: meshe: wow xbmc looks yummy
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[21:53:10] Dagmar: The answer is no.
[21:53:31] Tacroy: Oh huh XBMC runs on Windows and has MythTV support
[21:54:04] Tacroy: Hopefully it's better than WinMyth
[21:54:13] gbee: so does MythTV ;)
[21:54:29] gbee: I'm betting it has better MythTV support than XBMC too ;)
[21:55:20] squish102: mythtv run on windows?
[21:55:40] Tacroy: Wait what?
[21:56:04] Tacroy: Maybe it's for lack of looking, but the only Windows mythtv frontend I've been able to find is WinMyth
[21:56:08] Tacroy: Which has a lot of problems
[21:57:17] gbee: mythtv runs on Windows, OSX, BSD and linux – the former just isn't documented very well
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[21:57:43] gbee: and the backend doesn't support capture cards on Windows yet
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[21:59:00] Tacroy: I wouldn't trust Windows as a server anyway
[21:59:20] wagnerrp: half the world does
[21:59:27] squish102: i just lookig for mythtv frontend for windows... upnp doesnt cut it
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[22:00:50] Tacroy: Right now I'm using this: http://winmyth.sourceforge.net/
[22:00:54] eric_pwb: Hi, I am having some troubles with my mythtv box, have I come to the right place?
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[22:01:11] Tacroy: But apparently XBMC works too, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's better.
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[22:03:52] squish102: i was going to try it, but alas, i get an internal server error
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[22:05:17] Tacroy: Oh wait sorry, I use MythTV player not WinMyth
[22:06:27] Tacroy: http://www.sudu.dk/mythtvplayer/index.php
[22:06:59] Tacroy: It's a project that was last updated in 07 vs 05 :(
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[22:07:49] bulle: Tacroy: you can always just export the myth filesystem to the windows machine, and then use vlc or whatever player you want
[22:07:56] bulle: Tacroy: its not neat, but it works
[22:08:42] bulle: Tacroy: or just use mythweb
[22:10:24] GrahamIRC: I use MythTV Player for Windows too, which is fine for recorded and LiveTV
[22:10:36] GrahamIRC: shame the xmbc site is down :-(
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[22:11:26] Tacroy: Hey yeah mythweb is another thing
[22:11:37] Tacroy: When are they gonna have YouTube-style streaming stuff set up?
[22:11:50] gbee: two years ago?
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[22:11:58] Tacroy: The mythtv wiki page on the subject says that it's gonna be in the next release of mythweb.
[22:12:05] Tacroy: Really? All I see is a link to an ASX stream
[22:12:07] GrahamIRC: can't wait!
[22:12:16] Tacroy: Which doesn't help because the file is still comparatively huge
[22:12:17] GrahamIRC: I love MythWeb
[22:12:21] bulle: Tacroy: and you want flash video instead of the asx stream ?
[22:12:35] Tacroy: It doesn't seem to be that hard to do
[22:12:40] gbee: actually, I'll change my answer to 'When you submit the patch'
[22:12:48] GrahamIRC: ;-)
[22:12:49] Tacroy: But then I haven't actually gotten around to doing it, because the wiki says it's coming up...
[22:12:59] bulle: blame the wiki!
[22:13:07] Tacroy: Oh I always do
[22:13:14] Tacroy: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Stream_mythtv_reco . . . _flash_video
[22:13:14] bulle: nice reply to the provide the patch answear =)
[22:14:08] squish102: i think it is just a setting and then you can have the you-tube experience from mythweb
[22:14:10] bulle: even though i dont see why one would opt for flash video
[22:14:14] Tacroy: I mean you just need to set up a transcode job, integrate some streaming Flash widget with MythWeb
[22:14:21] squish102: but it is the youtube experience, which sucks
[22:14:50] Tacroy: Yeah, but how else are you going to watch TV your backend recorded while on a business trip?
[22:15:15] Tacroy: Not everyone has >2 MB/s upstream bandwidth
[22:16:27] bulle: squish102: where would i find this setting ?
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[22:20:43] squish102: bulle, let me check quick
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[22:24:25] squish102: bulle go into mythweb -> settings -> mythweb -> video playback -> enable
[22:26:00] bulle: squish102: neat!
[22:26:02] bulle: squish102: thanks
[22:26:13] bulle: Tacroy: taht should be something for you aswell
[22:26:49] squish102: then when you click on the image in recorded programs, u get a play button on the small window
[22:26:57] Tacroy: Mythweb ->settings?
[22:27:18] squish102: from mythweb go into settings
[22:27:41] Tacroy: From the mythweb page?
[22:27:45] bulle: squish102: aye, it works like a charm here
[22:27:56] squish102: yes Tacroy
[22:28:06] Tacroy: Oh silly me, I was looking for the /word/ settings.
[22:28:19] Tacroy: Not the image of a key hooked around a wrench
[22:28:54] Tacroy: Well that looks promising.
[22:29:04] Tacroy: Anyway now to turn this computer off and steal its tuner card.
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[22:29:22] nikosapi: Is there a way to measure signal strength of an ATSC channel using a HVR1600?
[22:32:23] iamlindoro: run femon in a terminal with a channel tuned, or alt-F6 is the default keystroke in myth's player IIRC
[22:32:53] nikosapi: cool, I'll give it a shot
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[22:34:19] squish102: one day i need to figure out after rebooting how to make sure mythtv doesn't get the tuner cards all mixed up :(
[22:34:57] iamlindoro: It's not myth that gets them mixed up, and use udev
[22:35:24] squish102: i think i read up a little about udev and it was > me
[22:35:52] squish102: next time i have a couple hours to kill, i'll take it on again
[22:35:58] iamlindoro: if all your cards are different modules, you can also use the adapter_nr and video_nr modprobe options
[22:36:19] squish102: they are different cards
[22:36:24] iamlindoro: in /etc/moprobe.d/options (or wherever your distro keeps said file)
[22:36:30] meshe: squish102: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Device_Filenames_and_udev
[22:36:44] iamlindoro: ie "options hdpvr video_nr=2"
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[22:36:54] iamlindoro: so my hdpvr is *always* /dev/video2
[22:37:11] iamlindoro: this becomes less helpful when you have multiple of the same card/cards that use the same module
[22:37:19] iamlindoro: but if different, it's a two-second fix
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[22:38:13] squish102: thanks, i'll check up both options
[22:40:00] meshe: well, time to learn python (and no i'm not going to write pyMythWeb)
[22:41:16] jams: any thoughts on a better way to present the following info http://pastebin.com/m627f4b03
[22:42:18] iamlindoro: sort by context instead of remote?
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[22:43:38] jams: well it's not really sorted by anything, but point noted.
[22:44:18] iamlindoro: Was just thinking one heading for "TV Playback", and then the bindings and functions would probably make more logical sense, I guess
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[22:44:55] iamlindoro: Wish Button descriptions were possible in addition to button name
[22:44:58] jams: makes sense and easy enough todo
[22:45:38] iamlindoro: ie "YELLOW" makes sense to everyone, but sometimes the default lircd.confs for certain remotes suuuuuuck
[22:45:50] iamlindoro: ie LB_REW_FULL
[22:46:15] jams: yeah, can't help that
[22:46:17] iamlindoro: case in point, the lircd.conf for the hauppauge grey remotes
[22:46:25] iamlindoro: yeah, not your fault, just musing
[22:46:29] gbee: BTN_UPPER_LEFT_OF_BIG_ROUND_ONE
[22:46:33] jams: only know the button name by the lircrc
[22:47:05] jams: I don't know how useful this program will be, but maybe it will help someone.
[22:47:06] iamlindoro: Could probably do some neat HTML imagemap stuff
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[22:47:32] iamlindoro: ie present the picture of the remote, and allow the user to map their lircrc by clicking on the button in question
[22:47:38] jams: heh not for sure 'm up for that much work
[22:47:48] iamlindoro: which has exactly nothing to do with your point, but now you got me going :)
[22:50:00] jams: stop adding work, this was supposed to be a simple excerise to help show what buttons do what.
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[22:51:08] iamlindoro: haha
[22:51:17] iamlindoro: I said nothing, you didn't hear a thing
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[23:08:51] mzb: darkdrgn2k: pong
[23:08:59] mzb: grr
[23:09:17] Dagmar: Meh. Anyone know of a decent OLED display bigger than a freaking inch square that has a _serial_ interface (or a reasonable approximation of eight digital wires or less with an Arduino library)?
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[23:22:22] gbee: know f'all about OLED displays – but is this even close? http://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/catalog/produ . . . ducts_id=178
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[23:23:49] clever: gbee: thats basicaly a cpu and display in one
[23:23:53] gbee: ok, so it's not much bigger than 1"^2
[23:24:13] clever: you could use it without the arduino, or run your own code in the display to make a custom serial interface
[23:25:08] clever: lol, it even has an audio chip
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[23:25:31] clever: alot of neat features:)
[23:25:37] com_h1: Hi everyone, a question from a newbie, getting my USB DVB tuner working in mythbuntu, In setup myth can see me tuner but it says can't workout my tuner frontend, so it fails to tune. I can scan at termial with the scan function, but I'm not to sure where I should store the channels.conf file that it generates. Or how can I get Myth to see my DVB frontend. Cheers.
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[23:39:43] jams: iamlindoro- here you go http://pastebin.com/m48b8459
[23:40:37] jams: note that some buttons are missing because the lookup does not yet account for multiple keys bound to the same action.
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