| Wednesday, May 6th, 2009, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:13] | pembo13: | yup |
| [00:00:23] | pembo13: | it auto went to mobile mode, which twas sweet |
| [00:00:36] | pembo13: | but being stuck in that mode with no way to get back... not so much |
| [00:00:49] | Wicked: | right. but when ya go back to it from the desktop/laptop its still in mobile viewing |
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| [00:01:12] | pembo13: | ya |
| [00:01:12] | lukarno: | the shoutcast genres won't harvest... what's wrong? |
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| [00:06:08] | pembo13: | Wicked: i just emptied the mythweb_sessions for now |
| [00:06:45] | pembo13: | Wicked: it has some serialized data, so i couldn't mod it directly |
| [00:07:19] | Wicked: | ah |
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| [00:41:03] | lukarno: | trying to play music from the shoutcast genres and it won't harvest.. did something change? |
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| [00:50:57] | wagnerrp: | lukarno: just what are you talking about? |
| [00:53:08] | lukarno: | wagnerrp, when I go to online streams and select shoutcast genres, I click on a specific genre and it just bounces me back genre menu |
| [00:54:13] | mzb: | I've been looking at the mythtv-jabber-bot idea, and ended up thinking that using the python-bindings might be best. |
| [00:54:48] | mzb: | Is anyone aware of a better method? (ie: that already has 'Record' functionality built in) |
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| [00:57:32] | mzb: | I guess the answer to that is to use the perl bindings |
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| [01:01:51] | GreyFoxx: | UGH.... I can hear a drive in one of my raid arrays failing |
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| [01:10:32] | mzb: | (or to add record(*) functions to the python bindings :) ) |
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| [01:14:49] | |chiz|: | I just installed a couple of PVR-150s but I notice when I'm watching a channel the tv is jerky, is there anyway to smooth it out? |
| [01:15:19] | Dagmar: | Some 200-grit sandpaper |
| [01:15:58] | |chiz|: | hmmm... I tried that |
| [01:17:27] | kormoc: | I don't believe you |
| [01:18:12] | |chiz|: | damn |
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| [01:28:30] | tank-man: | |chiz|, what is your cpu usage like when watching tv? what video card and cpu? |
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| [01:31:35] | |chiz|: | cpu is at about 50% |
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| [01:31:43] | |chiz|: | its a p4 2.0 |
| [01:32:09] | |chiz|: | tuner card is a hauppauge pvr150 |
| [01:33:02] | |chiz|: | no I think the cpu is actually at 100 |
| [01:33:36] | |chiz|: | I guess that is the issue eh |
| [01:35:07] | kormoc: | run dmesg and see what it says? |
| [01:37:29] | tank-man: | says dropped frames probably |
| [01:37:41] | |chiz|: | http://rafb.net/p/R3TSyi62.html |
| [01:38:35] | kormoc: | the I/O errors on sdb isn't so happy |
| [01:38:48] | |chiz|: | no I'd say not |
| [01:39:24] | |chiz|: | that's a usb drive |
| [01:40:18] | |chiz|: | why would it get that? |
| [01:40:33] | |chiz|: | is it because that drive likes to go to sleep |
| [01:41:00] | kormoc: | could be |
| [01:41:27] | tank-man: | is xvmc turned on for your video card? |
| [01:41:44] | |chiz|: | I don't know |
| [01:41:51] | |chiz|: | how can I check? |
| [01:42:06] | |chiz|: | its a nvidia 5200 |
| [01:42:38] | tank-man: | I dont know |
| [01:42:56] | tank-man: | been ages since i set it up. "set it and forget it" |
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| [01:47:25] | |chiz|: | I think I found it |
| [01:48:01] | |chiz|: | should I be able to assume that ubuntu builds their mythtv with xvmc support |
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| [01:50:24] | tank-man: | type "mythtvfrontend --version" and it will say the options it used to compile it |
| [01:51:05] | |chiz|: | cool |
| [01:53:05] | netrix: | hi. how can i get mythtv to realize that two channels are the same? for example, i get channel CIII and CIII-DT. i want myth to know to use the schedules direct data from CIII for CIII-DT as well. |
| [01:53:49] | kormoc: | Callsign iirc |
| [02:01:36] | netrix: | kormoc: thx. i am googling for mythtv and callsign. |
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| [02:27:45] | |chiz|: | so is there a legal way to get guide info without schedules direct? |
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| [02:28:58] | tank-man: | breaking a TOS (terms of service) isnt against the law but against rules in this channel. end of conversation |
| [02:29:09] | phunyguy: | whoa, what did I miss... |
| [02:29:30] | netrix: | kormoc: thx for the tip. i edited the channels using mythweb and i am doing mythfilldatabase. |
| [02:29:52] | jamesd_laptop: | |chiz|, do the 7 day trial.. if you think its worth.. collect cans until you can aford a one year subscription |
| [02:29:57] | |chiz|: | so not really eh, that's too bad |
| [02:30:26] | |chiz|: | yeah I guess it at least worth checking out the trial |
| [02:30:41] | jamesd_laptop: | $20 to allow you to cut the strings from the cable company.. its a small price to pay. |
| [02:31:08] | netrix: | chiz: i have been subscribed to SD since the beginning, its worth it and very reasonable in terms of price. pay once enjoy the listings and foget about it for a long time. |
| [02:31:25] | phunyguy: | SD rules |
| [02:31:36] | phunyguy: | they even have the cable company i was telling you about |
| [02:31:41] | netrix: | phunguy: nod. |
| [02:31:42] | phunyguy: | 3000 customers at most |
| [02:31:48] | jamesd_laptop: | yeah totally.. sweet, |
| [02:32:13] | netrix: | i just added two ota antenna listings to my lineups ... it's awesome. |
| [02:32:22] | phunyguy: | dont think they have all the channels listed, how do i get that fixed? |
| [02:32:27] | jamesd_laptop: | i've had the service for about 1.5 years so far, and never regreted it yet |
| [02:32:35] | phunyguy: | im prolly the only mythtv user in the area – lol |
| [02:33:05] | netrix: | i showed someone my mythtv with ota and they were like, 'but how do you get the guide with an antenna?' haha. |
| [02:34:36] | jamesd_laptop: | by showing my wife mythtv with a digital enabled capture card (kworld 115) i got my wife's okay to get a 42" lcd tv... we used to watch tv on the computer with a 22" lcd monitor from across the room, it was so much nicer than our old 27" tv |
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| [02:44:36] | netrix: | ok SD question for you guys. i have a pvr500 and hdhr. i edited all my my hd channels with the xmltvid of their sd counterparts, but when i look in the guide it still doesn't show data for them. i can mythfilldatabase after i did it too. |
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| [02:57:35] | netrix: | how come hd and dt channels dont have different xmltvid's on schedules direct? |
| [02:57:45] | netrix: | sorry hd |
| [02:57:56] | netrix: | sorry i mean hd (dt) and sd channels ... not hd and dt. |
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| [03:02:17] | okc0mputer: | anyone have an idea why the menu in mythtv-setup has no text? |
| [03:03:17] | tank-man: | i dont know the terminology but i think it is something to do with opengl and qt |
| [03:04:17] | tank-man: | i think this might help: |
| [03:04:20] | tank-man: | mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt |
| [03:04:41] | okc0mputer: | thanks, i'll give it a shot |
| [03:06:26] | okc0mputer: | same problem...Ive found some older threads that mention missing fonts for the front end. Is there a way to change themes so that a different font might be used? |
| [03:07:03] | tank-man: | mythfrontend -O Theme=blue |
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| [03:29:17] | wagnerrp: | awwww son of a bitch |
| [03:29:44] | wagnerrp: | first, i get better off ted a week late because of politics |
| [03:29:47] | jamesd_laptop: | world war II.. ended in 1945 |
| [03:30:02] | wagnerrp: | some presidential news telecast or some sort |
| [03:30:17] | jamesd_laptop: | oops wrong channel |
| [03:30:38] | ** iamlindoro helpfully mentions he got everything on time last and this week ;) ** | |
| [03:31:02] | wagnerrp: | now when it does record, i get a big ticker on the bottom reporting the current polls in some townships not even in my state |
| [03:31:38] | wagnerrp: | west clermont schools levy? those people provide nothing but an endless supply of bad drivers |
| [03:32:08] | wagnerrp: | and theyre showing tickers at '0% reporting'... absolutely worthless |
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| [03:39:52] | RyeBrye: | strange backend hang: http://pastebin.com/d1c62ce03 |
| [03:40:30] | RyeBrye: | Looks like somehow it was really really wanting to generate a preview, but it couldn't. Filled my log with a few megabytes of "2009-05–05 21:29:33.930 [ac3 @ 0x7f66aaaba4a0]frame sync error" |
| [03:40:44] | RyeBrye: | known issue, or should I try to track it down more and file a bug report? |
| [03:43:23] | wagnerrp: | put up an example clip somewhere for someone else to test |
| [03:43:39] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, the errors and bug report are worthless |
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| [03:47:21] | mintee: | any clue as to why i have audio on my pcHDTV5500 but not on my PVR150? |
| [03:47:39] | mintee: | other than the fact that i suck |
| [03:47:49] | wagnerrp: | i hope you have them set up properly |
| [03:48:06] | wagnerrp: | the 5500 as a DVB card, and the 150 as an mpeg encoder |
| [03:48:10] | mintee: | yep |
| [03:48:53] | wagnerrp: | because the 150 should give you a simple mpeg stream complete with audio' |
| [03:49:00] | wagnerrp: | as should the 5500 |
| [03:49:16] | mintee: | one would assume, yes |
| [03:49:24] | mintee: | that's why i don't understand |
| [03:49:25] | wagnerrp: | are you using digital audio? |
| [03:49:42] | mintee: | nah, audio out to my reciever |
| [03:49:48] | mintee: | via mini |
| [03:50:13] | wagnerrp: | via mini? |
| [03:50:35] | mintee: | yeah, out the headphone jack into my reciever |
| [03:50:49] | mintee: | mini to RCA |
| [03:51:05] | mintee: | http://www.qables.com/shop/images/RCA%20mini%20SC%20700.jpg |
| [03:51:23] | mintee: | was working fine on my last build, but this is a new one |
| [03:51:26] | RyeBrye: | nice cable. |
| [03:51:37] | mintee: | that's what she said ;) |
| [03:51:52] | wagnerrp: | so in other words, analog, or not digital |
| [03:52:21] | mintee: | correct |
| [03:52:22] | mintee: | sorry |
| [03:52:54] | mintee: | is there somewhere i'm missing in the setup that uses specific audio devices per input? |
| [03:53:05] | wagnerrp: | try both recordings with mplayer, and make sure its not actually a problem with the card |
| [03:53:50] | mintee: | yeah, i'm sure |
| [03:53:54] | mintee: | was working earlier |
| [03:54:01] | mintee: | on a previous build |
| [03:54:37] | wagnerrp: | is this trunk or -fixes? |
| [03:55:09] | mintee: | trunk i believe. |
| [03:55:16] | mintee: | it's a LinHES build I'm testing |
| [03:55:51] | wagnerrp: | this is a pre-compiled build? |
| [03:56:11] | mintee: | yeah |
| [03:56:22] | mintee: | but shouldn't make a diff in this case? |
| [03:57:12] | wagnerrp: | well it means you should be consulting others running said pre-compiled build |
| [03:57:17] | wagnerrp: | and see if it has the same errors |
| [03:57:48] | mintee: | meh, they don't and they are asleep now |
| [03:57:49] | mintee: | lol |
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| [04:28:57] | android6011: | is it the frontend or backend that has analog problems with 1800 hvr ? |
| [04:29:03] | android6011: | or just both |
| [04:29:20] | wagnerrp: | the frontend never touches a tuner card |
| [04:29:38] | wagnerrp: | the backend does not understand how to use a 1800 |
| [04:29:48] | wagnerrp: | since its neither a v4l framegrabber, nor an ivtv card |
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| [04:40:25] | nayfly: | Hey guys. I've just installed the latest version of ubuntu (jackalope) and have then installed myth on top. My problem is, When I try to open myth, it seems that the painter program (I think it's qt painter) doesn't seem to draw the mythtv setup or frontend windows... |
| [04:40:42] | nayfly: | I just get a blank box |
| [04:41:14] | wagnerrp: | try forcing the qt painter, its probably using the opengl painter, and you dont have your graphics drivers configured properly |
| [04:41:23] | wagnerrp: | '-O ThemePainter=qt' |
| [04:41:48] | nayfly: | wagnerrp: interesting, so I'm guessing installing the ATI drivers would fix eh |
| [04:42:10] | wagnerrp: | you really should be using the proprietary drivers with mythtv |
| [04:42:14] | android6011: | wagnerrp: is there going to be support for it in the next version? |
| [04:42:30] | wagnerrp: | OSS drivers dont support Xv or OpenGL on most modern cards |
| [04:42:39] | wagnerrp: | android6011: support for what? |
| [04:42:44] | android6011: | the 1800 |
| [04:42:57] | wagnerrp: | oh, right.... i dont know |
| [04:43:04] | android6011: | :/ |
| [04:43:13] | wagnerrp: | someone has to write support for it, and it seems no one has the motivation to do so |
| [04:44:03] | android6011: | i see |
| [04:44:22] | android6011: | so analog etc does work in linux, its just that the mythtv backend does not support it |
| [04:44:31] | wagnerrp: | thats correct |
| [04:44:35] | android6011: | ok |
| [04:45:29] | wagnerrp: | what its missing? i dont know |
| [04:45:56] | wagnerrp: | IIRC, its something to do with the feed reset on a channel change causing mythtv to barf |
| [04:46:11] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, you should just be able to set up a external channel changer script |
| [04:47:25] | wagnerrp: | now its probably some very minor amount of coding necessary |
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| [04:51:19] | iamlindoro: | "Thank you for your time and answers" |
| [04:51:22] | iamlindoro: | there, got that for him |
| [04:51:24] | iamlindoro: | ass |
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| [04:52:27] | johnb003: | hey. |
| [04:52:45] | johnb003: | So I contacted my cable company and I was like hey can I replace my box with one that has firewire |
| [04:53:38] | johnb003: | it was aweful trying to speak to them, but I finally I got them to admit they had a different box that has firewire, and it was HD. My old STB was just SD |
| [04:53:50] | johnb003: | I didn't feel like paying for an upgrade before but it turns out it's the same cost >< |
| [04:53:52] | johnb003: | ugh |
| [04:54:38] | wagnerrp: | thats usually the case |
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| [04:56:08] | johnb003: | I'm just irritated this is my second apartment where I had to get cable from them, and in the past I asked for an HD tuner, and the only thing they let me do was get an hd dvr which cost more |
| [04:56:20] | johnb003: | since the base was covered in my rent it was kind of annoying |
| [04:56:32] | johnb003: | and so this is the second time they set me up by default with a SD STB |
| [04:56:51] | johnb003: | while the whole time I could have had an HD STB >< for the same cost. |
| [04:57:04] | johnb003: | anyway it's a motorola DCT 6200 |
| [05:02:36] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp, i had a channel changing script for the 1800 but mythtv still didnt play nice with it |
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| [05:15:50] | johnb003: | cool I recorded some from the firewire! |
| [05:15:56] | johnb003: | I don't even have a tuner that's neat! |
| [05:16:06] | johnb003: | on this computer, it's a laptop |
| [05:17:38] | lavermil: | johnb003: firewall and you recorded..... |
| [05:17:45] | lavermil: | i missed to much of the converstation |
| [05:18:25] | johnb003: | oh |
| [05:18:30] | johnb003: | firewire. |
| [05:18:49] | lavermil: | firewire direct from your sat/cable box? |
| [05:19:05] | johnb003: | I just got a new STB that does HD for free from my cable company, I can't believe I had that crapy SD box and I could get the HD for free, and I was able to record directly from it |
| [05:19:08] | johnb003: | ya |
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| [05:19:43] | lavermil: | nice |
| [05:19:47] | lavermil: | who is your provide |
| [05:19:51] | lavermil: | err provider |
| [05:19:53] | johnb003: | TWC they are aweful |
| [05:19:58] | johnb003: | the worst company I've ever worked with |
| [05:20:20] | johnb003: | I had to recite FCC regulations to get them to actually look it up themselves |
| [05:20:32] | lavermil: | hehe |
| [05:20:38] | johnb003: | they kept telling me all of the usb and firewire were disabled for TWC |
| [05:20:39] | lavermil: | cox isn't the best |
| [05:20:43] | lavermil: | but I guess I can't bitch |
| [05:20:48] | johnb003: | I'm like, no they aren't! |
| [05:21:18] | johnb003: | I told them I have a firewire monitor lol |
| [05:21:30] | lavermil: | hehe |
| [05:21:36] | lavermil: | I still have old projection tvs |
| [05:21:51] | lavermil: | so I am still trying to get my tuner card to work perfectly on my monitor |
| [05:22:00] | lavermil: | then I will work on trying to get s-video to work |
| [05:22:25] | lavermil: | I think to get the s-video to work I need to have the prop driver |
| [05:22:29] | johnb003: | this stb has component out |
| [05:22:35] | johnb003: | so I'm thinking about getting the HD PVR |
| [05:22:52] | johnb003: | and I can tune it amazingly quickly with the firewire |
| [05:25:44] | lavermil: | sounds wishful thinking, but I am sure anyone knows more what they are doing than I |
| [05:27:45] | lavermil: | woot now I got the right hauppauge hvr 1600 drivers loaded |
| [05:27:49] | lavermil: | mplayer works |
| [05:28:10] | lavermil: | do I dare tackle getting sound blaster live working |
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| [06:02:28] | RyeBrye: | the soundblaster live should have drivers in the kernel, that shouldn't be very hard |
| [06:02:34] | RyeBrye: | (depending on what version it is) |
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| [06:05:28] | lavermil: | let me see what version it is |
| [06:05:35] | lavermil: | it is at least 6 years old |
| [06:07:11] | lavermil: | crap my dmesg is gone. maybe there is a backup |
| [06:07:32] | at0m|c: | lavermil: lspci |
| [06:07:46] | wagnerrp: | dmesg flushes itself after a certain amount of time |
| [06:08:27] | lavermil: | Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 |
| [06:08:29] | at0m|c: | lavermil: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Ma . . . reative_Labs then pick your card and verify with your installed driver |
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| [06:09:30] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: they are then rolled in /var/log/ to something like dmesg.0 and dmesg.1.gz |
| [06:11:24] | wagnerrp: | well my system only does a daily dump, of two days |
| [06:12:12] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: aahh |
| [06:12:25] | lavermil: | weird modinfo soundcore returns |
| [06:12:31] | lavermil: | so the kernel module is loaded |
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| [06:18:07] | lavermil: | the kernel mod is there but none of the config files it talks about. weird |
| [06:19:26] | lavermil: | alsamixer sees it so I think it must be loaded |
| [06:21:36] | wagnerrp: | this is no audio at all? |
| [06:21:49] | lavermil: | nope |
| [06:22:05] | lavermil: | I need to find a sound wave after seeing alsamixer had it set at zero |
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| [06:22:36] | wagnerrp: | i dont remember whether it was my live or audigy, but there was some seemingly unrelated item in alsamixer that needed to be unmuted before i could get audio out of it |
| [06:23:38] | wagnerrp: | looks like it was the audigy... |
| [06:24:53] | lavermil: | when you run mplayer should there be sound with it? |
| [06:25:24] | wagnerrp: | should be, assuming all is working properly |
| [06:28:21] | lavermil: | now my pc speaker seems to work when I press back button to much it beeps |
| [06:28:22] | lavermil: | hehe |
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| [06:29:19] | lavermil: | hehe, lovely |
| [06:29:20] | lavermil: | Your system is too SLOW to play this |
| [06:29:38] | lavermil: | Most common: broken/buggy _audio_ driver |
| [06:29:38] | lavermil: | - Try -ao sdl or use the OSS emulation of ALSA. |
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| [06:35:37] | lavermil: | nope still no sound. hmm |
| [06:36:42] | at0m|c: | lavermil: what about "aplay -l" or "cat /proc/asound/devices" ? |
| [06:37:14] | at0m|c: | lavermil: also check alsamixer for mute/volume levels |
| [06:38:13] | johnb003: | cool |
| [06:38:20] | johnb003: | so I've been checking all of the channels I watch |
| [06:38:26] | johnb003: | none of them have 5c protection :D |
| [06:39:11] | lavermil: | at0m|c: alsamixer is not muted they all have volume |
| [06:39:17] | johnb003: | but they are encripted on the Clear QAM side, so I just need to find good resources on setting up my STB for recording :D |
| [06:39:59] | lavermil: | aplay -l spit back a bung of stuff |
| [06:40:28] | lavermil: | all soundblaster live stuff and one VIA sound chip deal |
| [06:40:33] | lavermil: | VIA8235 |
| [06:41:30] | at0m|c: | lavermil: "lsmod | grep emu10k1" shows the alsa driver loaded? |
| [06:41:33] | lavermil: | at0m|c: not sure waht to be looking for in asound/devices |
| [06:41:42] | at0m|c: | lavermil: so you have 2 cards? via and sb? |
| [06:42:00] | lavermil: | yeah VIA is on the motherboard |
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| [06:42:51] | lavermil: | at0m|c: with lsmod am I looking fro alsa being output? |
| [06:42:51] | Pontiac: | Anyone using MythMovies? |
| [06:43:41] | at0m|c: | lavermil: it shows if the driver for your sb is loaded or not. Then check the order using "cat /proc/asound/cards" – VIA could be card0 |
| [06:44:34] | Pontiac: | I don't seem to be able to get any movie listings within a 50 mile range of the 90210 zip code. :/ |
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| [06:45:11] | lavermil: | at0m|c: is there a paste bin for this channel? |
| [06:45:29] | at0m|c: | lavermil: /topic |
| [06:45:41] | lavermil: | aplay -l shows the VIA as being card 1 |
| [06:45:48] | lavermil: | and SBL as card 0 |
| [06:46:05] | at0m|c: | lavermil: ok, the order is good then |
| [06:46:38] | lavermil: | I know it works in linux at least ubuntu 7.10 since that is what LinuxMCE requires |
| [06:46:59] | lavermil: | I loaded that over the weekend but hated it. there was sound on there for sure. |
| [06:47:15] | at0m|c: | lavermil: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/SoundcardTesting |
| [06:49:33] | lavermil: | at0m|c: WOOT!!!! |
| [06:49:38] | lavermil: | alsamixer didn't do it |
| [06:49:59] | lavermil: | I had to go to mixer under multimedia and then raise the volume and then unmute them |
| [06:50:05] | ** lavermil bows to at0m|c ** | |
| [06:50:09] | lavermil: | thank you |
| [06:50:10] | Pontiac: | I also use aumix |
| [06:50:53] | lavermil: | Pontiac: I saw that the other day and wasn't sure what each line was...heheh |
| [06:51:09] | at0m|c: | lavermil: weird eh. btw, alsamixer -c0 opens alsamixer for the first card, -c1 for the via.. |
| [06:51:32] | Pontiac: | ... Synth and PCM confused me.. but.. I just cranked everything. ;) |
| [06:51:34] | lavermil: | at0m|c: ok |
| [06:52:02] | lavermil: | speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -twav |
| [06:52:06] | lavermil: | gotta love that one |
| [06:54:11] | ** Pontiac grumbles at this mythmovies thing. ** | |
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| [06:54:41] | Pontiac: | Such a cool feature, yet, doesn't seem Beverly Hills has any theaters showing anything. :/ |
| [06:55:23] | lavermil: | at0m|c: you don't happen to have an older ATI graphics card that you use s-video out on? |
| [06:55:41] | Pontiac: | I have an nVidia that I'm using just s-video on. |
| [06:56:29] | lavermil: | Pontiac: are you using the prop or OSS drivers? |
| [06:56:45] | Pontiac: | *thinks* That I'm not sure of which was applied. |
| [06:56:46] | Pontiac: | Sec. |
| [06:57:17] | Pontiac: | Prop |
| [06:57:31] | Pontiac: | Version 173 |
| [06:57:37] | lavermil: | ati prop are broken on 9.04 since they no longer support old cards |
| [06:58:03] | lavermil: | 9.3 would work but xorg is too new and it isnt support/known to work |
| [06:58:03] | Pontiac: | ... yet another reason I'm not gonna push that "UPDATE" button. |
| [06:58:26] | lavermil: | tempting to just go spend money |
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| [06:58:42] | Pontiac: | Well, the other option you have, if you don't have additional hardware, is just reload it with an older version of Mythbuntu, or whatever. |
| [06:59:18] | lavermil: | if I buy a new card I will be buying either a 70 card that is nv or I will be building a new system, getting a big hd tv, and who knows what else |
| [06:59:42] | lavermil: | Pontiac: that is true. |
| [06:59:45] | Pontiac: | Or you can reload with an older OS, and just give me the money. ;) |
| [07:00:03] | lavermil: | I thought 9.04 had a lot more new stuff in it for mythtv...not sure. |
| [07:00:32] | lavermil: | Pontiac: give you the money...hmmmm....my soon to be wife would kill me |
| [07:00:33] | lavermil: | hehe |
| [07:01:05] | Pontiac: | {smirk} I'm not a hooker. :P |
| [07:02:27] | lavermil: | Pontiac: hehe she wants he wedding |
| [07:02:45] | lavermil: | the good news is the OSS driver should have the support according to something I am reading. |
| [07:02:52] | lavermil: | well it works for sure for non X stuff |
| [07:02:56] | lavermil: | just for X it won't show |
| [07:03:11] | Pontiac: | And a new PC, and big HD TV, and `whatever else` adds to your situation? {smirk} |
| [07:03:24] | lavermil: | that or maybe I need to lower the res to 800x600 the current max support |
| [07:03:41] | Pontiac: | 800x600 will do you just fine. |
| [07:03:52] | lavermil: | Pontiac: well it all contribute back to her for tv and recording shows...then again still doesn't help the budget thing |
| [07:03:54] | Pontiac: | At least on a CRT/non-HD-LCD. |
| [07:04:30] | lavermil: | aaahh 800x600 is HUGE |
| [07:04:33] | wagnerrp: | a 70 card? |
| [07:04:45] | wagnerrp: | 7000 series? |
| [07:04:47] | lavermil: | $70 card |
| [07:04:50] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: sorry. hehe |
| [07:05:00] | lavermil: | Pontiac: old projection screen |
| [07:05:14] | wagnerrp: | no need for a $70 card |
| [07:05:15] | Pontiac: | Nice. |
| [07:05:26] | lavermil: | two 60 inch screens are hard to part with just for a thinner much temperature hotter tv |
| [07:05:39] | wagnerrp: | you can pick up a nice 8000 series PCIe for $30, or an older 7000 series AGP for $40 |
| [07:05:40] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: ??? |
| [07:05:53] | wagnerrp: | all you need for mythtv is support for Xv |
| [07:06:03] | wagnerrp: | however the 'nv' driver wont cut it |
| [07:06:10] | wagnerrp: | you need the binary 'nvidia' driver |
| [07:06:17] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: correct if my old p4 2.5 gig motherboard had pcie. it is pre 2004 when pcie came out. :( |
| [07:06:50] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: see my problem. :( |
| [07:06:53] | lavermil: | sob sob |
| [07:07:10] | wagnerrp: | that 2.5 might be able to manage HD broadcasts |
| [07:07:12] | wagnerrp: | it might be too slow |
| [07:07:19] | lavermil: | bah, now I have my res at 800x600 and still no s-video wtf. |
| [07:07:29] | wagnerrp: | i know i have 1.8 that doesnt even come close |
| [07:07:36] | Pontiac: | get rid of the VGA cable, reboot, and you'll have SVideo. |
| [07:07:39] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: my tv won't do HD so I am not worried. :-D |
| [07:07:50] | Pontiac: | .. well... how 'bout shut down, pull the VGA, then start. |
| [07:07:57] | wagnerrp: | doesnt matter if your TV can display it, you still have to be able to decode it |
| [07:08:19] | wagnerrp: | and if you ever decide to start recording digital tv, you have no control over the resolution or bitrate you are given |
| [07:08:35] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: true. |
| [07:08:49] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: your gonna make me buy new equipment |
| [07:09:10] | lavermil: | Pontiac: I am gonna try the reboot ina sek. gotta save some things |
| [07:09:41] | wagnerrp: | well you can put together a nice frontend for ~$300 |
| [07:09:46] | ** Pontiac is STILL trying to find something about mythmovies. ** | |
| [07:09:51] | Pontiac: | I should be going to bed. |
| [07:09:58] | wagnerrp: | throw in your old tuners and hard drives, and you have a nice backend too |
| [07:10:14] | wagnerrp: | or you can just leave those in the p4, and shove it somewhere down in the basement |
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| [07:10:34] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: what is really required for a frontend? |
| [07:10:48] | wagnerrp: | depends on what you want to do with it |
| [07:11:33] | lavermil: | my ideal thoughts are this...maybe dreaming. xmame/snes/nes/sega/netflix/tv/recording tv |
| [07:11:41] | wagnerrp: | if you only want to do broadcast digital, any (AMD/Intel) processor you can buy retail today will manage it without a problem |
| [07:11:42] | lavermil: | that is about it. |
| [07:11:52] | wagnerrp: | and will handle any of those games too |
| [07:11:59] | wagnerrp: | netflix... not so much |
| [07:12:09] | wagnerrp: | i dont think there is any way to manage that on linux currently |
| [07:12:10] | lavermil: | netflix is the one I am most interested in. |
| [07:12:11] | Shadow__X: | i hope current gen cpu's can handle snes |
| [07:12:27] | lavermil: | Shadow__X: hehe |
| [07:12:38] | lavermil: | wagnerrp: there is a netflix plugin for mythtv...does it not work? |
| [07:12:50] | Shadow__X: | its to add things to queue |
| [07:12:52] | wagnerrp: | mythflix is an old plugin for managing your mail queue |
| [07:13:00] | wagnerrp: | it does not support streaming |
| [07:13:01] | Shadow__X: | not to stream netflix vids |
| [07:13:14] | lavermil: | OH S***Y |
| [07:13:45] | lavermil: | brb gonna reboot and see if my tv works with s-video |
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| [07:14:21] | Pontiac: | hmm.. there is a database table for mythmovies... i wonder...... |
| [07:14:42] | wagnerrp: | probably just stuff in the settings table |
| [07:15:57] | Pontiac: | Would be nice if I had the code for the plugin, then I could POSSIBLY see where its barfing. |
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| [07:22:21] | lavermil: | damn usplash is trying to do 1600x1200 |
| [07:22:36] | Pontiac: | Found the three tables, and all are empty... so either the scripts aren't dumping the data in properly due to its not parsing the XML, OR theres an issue trying to connect to the DB. |
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| [07:26:56] | lavermil: | grrr, why does my hauppauge hvr 1600 do that. reboot and sometime it doesn't load right. I have to make unload, modprobe cx18; to get it to work |
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| [07:34:46] | Shadow__X: | lavermil, or do you have to open it 2 to get analog working right |
| [07:35:35] | lavermil: | Shadow__X now that I think about it....mythtv backend might have had it |
| [07:35:41] | lavermil: | thus the unload freed it up |
| [07:36:25] | lavermil: | Shadow__X: but if I just try to load mplayer without unloading it I get no display and no video |
| [07:36:31] | lavermil: | rather audio |
| [07:36:46] | Shadow__X: | :) |
| [07:37:05] | Shadow__X: | i dont think its fixed yet but there is an issue with using the card after a reboot |
| [07:37:24] | Shadow__X: | you tune it to a channel and audio on analog goes nuts |
| [07:37:29] | Shadow__X: | you stop live tv |
| [07:37:34] | Shadow__X: | and reopen it |
| [07:37:37] | Shadow__X: | and it works fine |
| [07:37:58] | lavermil: | huh |
| [07:38:15] | Shadow__X: | uh |
| [07:38:20] | lavermil: | my mythtv screen doesn't work for the frontend yet. |
| [07:38:25] | Shadow__X: | ok |
| [07:38:29] | Shadow__X: | nvm |
| [07:38:34] | lavermil: | it is all broken at the moment. |
| [07:38:41] | Shadow__X: | k |
| [07:38:55] | lavermil: | last night I had it working but then I thought I zapped my video card...and reloaded from scratch. :( |
| [07:39:32] | lavermil: | I think to solve my s-video issue I can just get a dvi to s-video |
| [07:39:43] | Pontiac: | Welp; looks like I'm going to have to invent a way to take the XML and drop it into the database, cuz MythBuntu isn't touching the database. |
| [07:40:01] | lavermil: | or vga to rca |
| [07:40:25] | Pontiac: | all with MASSIVE video quality loss. :/ |
| [07:40:49] | Pontiac: | Well, DVI2SVIDEO; not so bad... VGA to a single RCA? {shiver} |
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| [07:42:06] | lavermil: | Pontiac: :( thx for that bit of info. |
| [07:42:29] | Pontiac: | I know how ya feel. |
| [07:43:18] | Pontiac: | But then again, going to analog CRT/Projection, you're already looking at significant quality loss, so then again, going VGA 2 RCA may not be THAT big of a deal. |
| [07:43:37] | Pontiac: | Depends on how good of a projection screen ya got. |
| [07:43:57] | Pontiac: | I know with my 32" TV, I can hardly read the text at 800x600 via SVIDEO. |
| [07:44:05] | wagnerrp: | a DVI-to-svideo scan converter would be considerably more expensive than just a new video card |
| [07:44:33] | wagnerrp: | also, svideo only runs at 480 lines |
| [07:44:42] | wagnerrp: | and something well under 800 columns |
| [07:44:52] | Pontiac: | *MY* thoughts are to just drop the latest and go with an older OS and see what kinda luck you get. |
| [07:46:24] | lavermil: | I might have to go that route |
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| [07:47:41] | Pontiac: | What are you looking to get outta the software? PVR? MP4/AVI player? |
| [07:49:17] | lavermil: | Pontiac: really a pvr + xmame + netflix (mid 2009 per netflix) |
| [07:51:50] | Pontiac: | Well, with my OS, I've not done any of that, however, what I would suggest is maybe getting yourself setup with (I said it before, sorry to repeat so often) the older OS and familiarize yourself with it. |
| [07:51:54] | Shadow__X: | by netflix do you mean stream netflix |
| [07:52:03] | lavermil: | Pontiac: netflix allows boxee to get it direct for instant on linux. wtf |
| [07:52:06] | Pontiac: | I'm sure that xmame is going to work. |
| [07:52:22] | lavermil: | instant download |
| [07:56:56] | Pontiac: | I wouldn't call it `instant` download. |
| [07:57:11] | Pontiac: | But I get your drift. |
| [07:57:25] | Shadow__X: | how do i tar using --lzma |
| [07:57:27] | Shadow__X: | anyone? |
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| [07:58:23] | tank-man: | using what now? |
| [07:58:25] | lavermil: | Pontiac: I don't quite get the streaming option boxee offers |
| [07:58:35] | Shadow__X: | tar --lzma |
| [07:59:00] | Criggie: | hey all – mythtv's internal player seems to be unable to play audio from a h264 Matroska file, but xine and mplayer play the audio fine. |
| [07:59:22] | Criggie: | anyone know anything about playback of matroska files ? |
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| [07:59:34] | Criggie: | or should I look at changing the player ? |
| [08:02:14] | lavermil: | Shadow__X: you might now need the — if those are switches you are specifying |
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| [08:02:41] | lavermil: | nm |
| [08:02:49] | lavermil: | I should have done a man before responding |
| [08:02:50] | tank-man: | ive never played back a mkv file, ive only ripped dvds to xvid |
| [08:03:06] | tank-man: | in avi |
| [08:03:12] | Dibblah: | lavermil: That could be misconstrued ;) |
| [08:03:32] | Shadow__X: | heh |
| [08:03:32] | Criggie: | tank-man: thanks – I'm kinda stuck with the format. |
| [08:06:05] | lavermil: | LOL |
| [08:06:10] | lavermil: | I am tired, go figure |
| [08:06:20] | Supaplex: | so it's called "my first cool movie.baindaid" ? |
| [08:06:34] | Supaplex: | s/ain/an/ |
| [08:13:34] | anykey__: | Criggie: mkv works pretty fine here |
| [08:14:22] | Criggie: | anykey__: yeah I think myth's player doesn't like the audio. The video stream plays back fine |
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| [08:15:56] | at0m|c: | Criggie: check your default player settings under Settings – File Types. Or try to open the .mkv in mplayer standalone |
| [08:16:24] | nayfly: | hey guys. I've just installed mythtv but when i run mythtv-setup, the screen goes completed garbled and illegible |
| [08:16:28] | nayfly: | any ideas? |
| [08:16:41] | Criggie: | at0m|c: it plays perfectly in mplayer and xine, (sound and video) but mythtv player has no sound |
| [08:16:47] | nayfly: | I've installed the latest ATI drivers. |
| [08:17:12] | anykey__: | Criggie: what codec is the audio? |
| [08:17:16] | Ponty: | ah-HA! Found the problem with MythMovies. *dances in his chair* |
| [08:18:34] | lavermil: | nayfly: what ati card do you have |
| [08:18:39] | lavermil: | brand new? |
| [08:18:45] | nayfly: | Radeon X1950 |
| [08:18:56] | nayfly: | not brand new. Over a year old |
| [08:19:02] | lavermil: | how old is that? |
| [08:19:05] | Criggie: | anykey__: not sure – file just says "Helpers.mkv: Matroska data |
| [08:19:09] | nayfly: | I've had it working on this card before... |
| [08:19:13] | anykey__: | Criggie: try mkvinfo |
| [08:19:15] | lavermil: | read carefully as only the new cards are supported |
| [08:19:42] | Criggie: | anykey__: heh just found that – its | + Codec ID: A_AAC |
| [08:20:19] | Criggie: | anykey__: you think converting it to an AVI would work? |
| [08:21:12] | nayfly: | lavermil: Well, like I said I've had myth running on this computer before |
| [08:21:31] | at0m|c: | Criggie: if mplayer plays it fine, then why not set it up like that in mythtv > settings > file types ? saves lots of converting time, and will allow you to play all .mkv's in mythtv in the future |
| [08:21:54] | Criggie: | at0m|c: good idea |
| [08:22:18] | Shadow__X: | x1950 is pretty old |
| [08:22:29] | Shadow__X: | also i hope you have a huge gpu fan on there |
| [08:22:38] | Shadow__X: | as the x19xx series likes to run |
| [08:22:50] | Shadow__X: | and start artifacting all by itself |
| [08:23:11] | lavermil: | nayfly: let me guess you just upgraded to teh 9.4 driver right? |
| [08:23:13] | nayfly: | it's more than capable of running mythtv... |
| [08:23:53] | lavermil: | fglrxinfo I think will tell your current version too |
| [08:24:20] | nayfly: | I'll check :) |
| [08:24:51] | Shadow__X: | yes it can run mythtv |
| [08:24:56] | Shadow__X: | but will the ati driver let it! |
| [08:25:09] | Shadow__X: | that is not an easy answer |
| [08:25:12] | lavermil: | nayfly: the 9.4 driver no longer supports older cards |
| [08:25:14] | nayfly: | indeed |
| [08:25:17] | lavermil: | 9.3 supports older cards |
| [08:25:30] | lavermil: | 9.3 will not run on ubuntu 9.4 |
| [08:25:40] | lavermil: | rather 9.04 ubuntu |
| [08:25:43] | lavermil: | bah |
| [08:26:05] | nayfly: | Yeh, i ran into that issue |
| [08:26:05] | lavermil: | 9.4 is running too current of xorg and libs are too new |
| [08:26:14] | nayfly: | which is why i reverted back to 8 |
| [08:26:19] | lavermil: | so you have to use the open source driver |
| [08:26:20] | nayfly: | (ubuntu that is) |
| [08:26:49] | nayfly: | hmm |
| [08:26:55] | lavermil: | 9.4 is not backward compatible to ubuntu 8.x either since you won't have current enough libs/etc. |
| [08:27:05] | Shadow__X: | they dropped support for x19xx already |
| [08:27:06] | Shadow__X: | ? |
| [08:27:09] | nayfly: | so install 9.3? |
| [08:27:22] | lavermil: | Shadow__X: not sure, I don't recall |
| [08:27:35] | nayfly: | it's really not that old! |
| [08:27:43] | lavermil: | nayfly: if you are on 8.x ubuntu you will only get to 9.3 |
| [08:27:43] | nayfly: | I'd be surprised |
| [08:28:02] | lavermil: | nayfly: I would check what they say they support and don't |
| [08:28:40] | nayfly: | 9.3 supports X1900 series |
| [08:28:47] | nayfly: | I'll try that |
| [08:28:50] | lavermil: | what about 9.4? |
| [08:28:54] | nayfly: | with my fingers crossed |
| [08:29:06] | Shadow__X: | yeah thats it 9.4 doesnt |
| [08:29:07] | Shadow__X: | hmm |
| [08:29:11] | Shadow__X: | i need to buy a new gpu |
| [08:29:16] | nayfly: | well, just using the ATI site, when i entered my model and it took me to 9.3 |
| [08:29:22] | lavermil: | hehe, bastards at amd |
| [08:29:34] | lavermil: | nayfly: they fixed it finally |
| [08:29:35] | Shadow__X: | or video card that is i wish i could swap gpus |
| [08:29:41] | lavermil: | the download use to be 9.4 for everything |
| [08:30:01] | lavermil: | Shadow__X: that would rock |
| [08:30:04] | nayfly: | yeh it broke my 9.04 and I couldn't recover it |
| [08:30:30] | lavermil: | nayfly: just to let you know do a apt-get autoremove fglrx |
| [08:30:45] | lavermil: | well one of the fglrx packages and it will remove all the associated ones too |
| [08:30:49] | lavermil: | I had to that earlier tonight |
| [08:30:58] | nayfly: | lavermil: thanks :) |
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| [08:31:05] | lavermil: | dpkg --list | grep -i fglrx |
| [08:31:13] | lavermil: | if I recall right |
| [08:31:16] | nayfly: | I'm on my mac atm with ubuntu next to me so I'll keep this window open on my driver adventure |
| [08:31:28] | lavermil: | hehe |
| [08:31:46] | lavermil: | bbiab, gotta see if my usplash will load at 800x600 |
| [08:31:55] | nayfly: | hehe k |
| [08:32:13] | lavermil: | if it doesn't then ATI broke mythtv..or mythtv is caching something referencing to the ATI driver |
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| [08:34:08] | Shadow__X: | SSH |
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| [08:41:03] | lavermil: | well mythtv frontend comes up blank |
| [08:41:06] | lavermil: | no love |
| [08:45:54] | Ponty: | WOOHOO!! I fixed my problem. |
| [08:46:13] | Ponty: | lavermil> Have you ever heard of the application called Envy? |
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| [08:47:00] | Ponty: | I haven't used it on the Mythbox, but on any other Ubuntu machine, I install it via apt-get (Its also downloadable as a deb package I would assume) and it installs some software that'll update the video drivers. |
| [08:47:01] | lavermil: | yep. and people say don't install ATI drivers via it. |
| [08:47:12] | Ponty: | .. oh.. hmm.. |
| [08:47:14] | ** Ponty shuts up ** | |
| [08:47:23] | Ponty: | I've had nothing but good experience with nVidia. |
| [08:47:55] | lavermil: | ATI is has whore stories about because it put 9.4 on and that breaks cards older than a year |
| [08:48:13] | lavermil: | Ponty: everyone has different experiences |
| [08:49:16] | lavermil: | anyone know how to disable the opengl |
| [08:49:27] | lavermil: | people are saying opengl has killed mythtv frontend |
| [08:49:36] | Ponty: | Wouldn't that be done in the xorg.conf file? |
| [08:50:04] | lavermil: | hehe, my xorg.conf is blank. mythbuntu doesn't something fancy |
| [08:51:01] | Criggie: | at0m|c: http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/261.html takes about 15 seconds to convert a 100 MB mkv to an avi |
| [08:51:03] | Ponty: | Well, I gotta crash. My boys are probably going to be up in a couple hours, and I've got appointments with Childrens Aide. ... wahoo. |
| [08:51:09] | Criggie: | thanks everyone :) |
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| [08:52:31] | lavermil: | bedtime for me too |
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| [08:52:49] | lavermil: | let see if the reinstall of mythtv works |
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| [09:04:08] | lavermil: | mythfrontend is screwed...goodnight all. |
| [09:04:08] | lavermil: | or morning |
| [09:04:08] | lavermil: | hehe |
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| [09:05:04] | Shadow__X: | oh noes system load of 9.76 |
| [09:05:15] | wagnerrp: | thats unfortunate |
| [09:05:23] | Shadow__X: | 11.41 |
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| [09:14:59] | ]Oscar: | after upgrade, desktop bar rest visible while in mythtv, also in live view... I did not find any option :( |
| [09:15:20] | wagnerrp: | is this a machine intended only for mythtv? |
| [09:15:37] | ]Oscar: | no,.. desktp also,... primary backend, and fronted... |
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| [09:20:04] | ]Oscar: | in precedence, sometimes appeared, but clicking on mythtv solve (passing it on 1st plane..) |
| [09:28:35] | jduggan: | moin |
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| [09:35:30] | nayfly: | hey guys I have another problem :( I've set up my V4L capture card in mythtv-setup, and it appears to be probing the device okay because it has the correct model and name of my card, but when I go to associate input connections to the device, i get an error saying "Could not open '0' to probe its inputs." |
| [09:35:38] | nayfly: | any ideas? :) |
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| [10:18:12] | at0m|c: | nayfly: maybe change device ownership? "ls -l /dev/video0" to see owner/rights |
| [10:19:32] | at0m|c: | nayfly: the owner or group running mythtvbackend (mythtv?) needs rw on the device |
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| [13:35:00] | |chiz|: | Is there anyone using 512MB of RAM with their myth setup? Mine was fine before but since I got a tv tuner its been swapping alot. |
| [13:35:16] | sid3windr: | what were you doing with myth without a tv tuner then? |
| [13:36:00] | |chiz|: | just watching movies |
| [13:41:27] | GreyFoxx: | |chiz|: I use to use 512 in my combo backend (2 prv250s) + frontend box with no troubles. |
| [13:41:31] | GreyFoxx: | but that was a while back |
| [13:41:51] | GreyFoxx: | now all servers have 1 gig and my main frontend has 2gig |
| [13:43:47] | sid3windr: | my frontends have 1G and MBE 2G |
| [13:46:15] | GreyFoxx: | main reason I have 2 in that FE was because runs 2 instances of mythfrontend feeding two different devices |
| [13:46:26] | gbee: | 1Gb is cheap enough that these days I'd recommend it as the minimum for any machine, 2Gb for a frontend wouldn't hurt |
| [13:47:09] | gbee: | that said, I have a frontend with just 512Mb |
| [13:47:15] | |chiz|: | yeah I'm not that cheap its just an old p4 HP box and I'm pretty sure I tried before and it won't take anymore ram |
| [13:48:06] | |chiz|: | gbee: I'm using gnome for a desktop environment |
| [13:48:12] | |chiz|: | is that hurting me? |
| [13:50:07] | GreyFoxx: | is it a dedicated myth box ? |
| [13:50:10] | GreyFoxx: | Or a desktop too ? |
| [13:50:25] | GreyFoxx: | environments like gnome and kde are memory pigs |
| [13:50:52] | GreyFoxx: | unless you are using it as a desktop I would recommend a light weight VM like xfce or something similar |
| [13:51:02] | |chiz|: | its a dedicated box |
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| [13:52:35] | ** sid3windr does fluxbox ** | |
| [13:53:03] | |chiz|: | its ubuntu since I didn't want to mess around too much with drivers and what not, maybe mythbuntu whould serve me better since it's stripped down some of the ubuntu bloat |
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| [13:55:18] | squidly: | |chiz|: eithw ill work |
| [13:55:33] | squidly: | U use ubunut on my backend and mythbuntu for my front end |
| [13:56:06] | squidly: | s/U/I |
| [13:56:08] | |chiz|: | yeah, I've been thinking about wiping that disk anyways since the partitions are all out of wack |
| [13:57:53] | squidly: | test |
| [13:57:58] | squidly: | ok i'm still alize |
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| [14:08:32] | |chiz|: | hmmm... seems most things that I read say that you can get away with just 256MB so 512MB should be adequite if I set this thing up properly |
| [14:14:15] | i_is_cat: | how well does a frontend work when using wireless.. any noticeable choppiness or anything? |
| [14:15:57] | squidly: | i_is_cat: yea I didnt do it |
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| [14:16:16] | squidly: | it I used my wireless I saw noticable skips and delays |
| [14:17:05] | |chiz|: | yeah sadly most of the wireless drivers for linux aren't as efficient as their windows counter parts |
| [14:18:01] | i_is_cat: | hmmm ya and this bizarre wireless card is an old b card too so 11mbps max :S |
| [14:18:39] | i_is_cat: | its a 3com pcmcia wireless card thats stuck in a pci adapter and had a sticker holding the card to the adapter that says "warranty void if removed" lol |
| [14:18:45] | i_is_cat: | so i removed it.. |
| [14:19:24] | i_is_cat: | i dont like being told what to do unless it makes sense |
| [14:19:32] | squidly: | |chiz|: it's not that |
| [14:19:52] | squidly: | it'e just slow |
| [14:19:59] | |chiz|: | ok |
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| [14:20:53] | squidly: | |chiz|: I actually have tested with a couple of wireless cards, my linux system get about 100–300 kb/s better speeds |
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| [14:23:45] | i_is_cat: | that was weird.. i just started x on my other system and it couldnt find the screen even tho i exported the display to 192.168.0.105:1 :S |
| [14:23:51] | i_is_cat: | it worked when i exported it again tho |
| [14:26:23] | clever: | some of the problem may be the tcp stack |
| [14:26:36] | clever: | when it looses packets, it thinks the connection is being overloaded and slows itself down |
| [14:26:45] | clever: | when it was just a person walking between you and the other end |
| [14:26:58] | clever: | and it may take a while to recover and go faster again |
| [14:27:23] | clever: | the exact rates would depend on the tuning of the tcp stack |
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| [14:28:59] | i_is_cat: | i wanna get this wireless card working on my other box and test myth through it to see how bad it looks and if its crap then i wont use myth but either way im going to leave the wireless in there so the neighbours have a dirt ass slow connection off it lol |
| [14:33:23] | clever: | i got ~300kbyte/sec on my 802.11 b |
| [14:33:39] | clever: | which was just bearly enough for my recompressed analog SDTV |
| [14:33:57] | clever: | just tune the pvr150 to fit the card:P |
| [14:34:21] | i_is_cat: | if the ati tuner i got worked i would just pop the tuner in the other box and have two separate backends |
| [14:34:28] | i_is_cat: | one on my main box and one for the tv |
| [14:34:43] | i_is_cat: | but its a piece of shit so that option is out :S |
| [14:35:10] | i_is_cat: | unless i can somehow write my own drivers for the card which is something i wouldnt have a clue how to do.. |
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| [14:43:12] | clever: | i_is_cat: go google for the book 'ldd3' |
| [14:43:18] | clever: | linux device drivers 3 |
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| [15:08:06] | jams: | i_is_cat- please watch you language |
| [15:08:21] | i_is_cat: | jams, np |
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| [15:42:28] | ogreinside: | |chiz|: sorry I'm a couple hours late, but I use 512MB ram just fine in an old P4 system for an FE/BE. I too only watch movies on it though, no tuner. However, this FE/BE also makes a great DNLA server for my PS3 to access those same movies. much better than mediatomb or even tversity |
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| [16:24:33] | deeemac: | I couldn't find anything in the wiki but can you make it so a backend runs no transcoding jobs from the recordings it does and just make another backend do all the work? It wouldn't let me set the jobs below 1 |
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| [16:29:11] | tank-man: | maybe set the time to 0 am to 0:1 am |
| [16:29:35] | tank-man: | for when jobs can be run |
| [16:30:52] | iamlindoro: | Just untick the "allow transcoding jobs on this backend" box |
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| [17:17:45] | trumee: | guys, i am not able to delete a show in Delete recordings |
| [17:18:04] | trumee: | i get a message in the console saying that file doesnt exist which is true |
| [17:18:55] | trumee: | ./myth.find_orphans.pl --dbhost=localhost doesnt detect that the file is missing |
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| [17:19:18] | meshe: | touch the file on the file system and try deleting it again |
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| [17:20:21] | meshe: | it doesn't need to have any data in it, it just needs to exist |
| [17:20:47] | trumee: | um, ok i checked the file is present |
| [17:21:18] | trumee: | i get this error 2009-05–06 18:20:48.993 Error: File 'myth://192.168.1.132:6543/I.Dream.Of.Jeannie. . . . -SAiNTS.avi' missing |
| [17:21:54] | trumee: | ls /mnt/myth/recordings/I.Dream.Of.Jeannie.S01E01.DVDRip.XviD-SAiNTS.avi -la returns |
| [17:22:03] | trumee: | -rw-rw-rw- 1 mythtv video 183377920 May 6 18:20 /mnt/myth/recordings/I.Dream.Of.Jeannie.S01E01.DVDRip.XviD-SAiNTS.avi |
| [17:22:31] | |chiz|: | :S |
| [17:22:35] | trumee: | i had imported the file into the database |
| [17:22:36] | meshe: | did you make any changes to your storage groups? |
| [17:22:53] | trumee: | not that i am aware of |
| [17:23:07] | meshe: | use mythvideo for that, messing with the db directly is a bad idea as we see here |
| [17:23:25] | iamlindoro: | Stealing, also, is bad |
| [17:23:48] | trumee: | iamlindoro, yup. |
| [17:23:58] | iamlindoro: | So don't do it |
| [17:24:06] | iamlindoro: | and don't mention it here |
| [17:24:15] | trumee: | iamlindoro, i want to get rid of the file |
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| [17:25:24] | meshe: | not knowing how you mucked with the db, we probably can't help |
| [17:26:03] | trumee: | is there a way i can delete directly in the database, |
| [17:26:12] | trumee: | or is that a bad idea |
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| [17:28:50] | trumee: | meshe, ah i used ragetvgrab to import the file |
| [17:29:24] | trumee: | seems ragetvgrab mucked up the database |
| [17:30:40] | meshe: | haven't heard of that tool until just now, i'm not really comfortable helping you modify the db directly |
| [17:31:24] | clever: | allways backup the db! |
| [17:31:53] | trumee: | ok, i will delete the file, let the db as it is. |
| [17:32:06] | meshe: | you could probably remove the file and try find_orphans again |
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| [17:36:28] | trumee: | meshe, yup that worked |
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| [17:42:36] | i_is_cat: | damn still no takers on that ati card :S |
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| [17:43:41] | iamlindoro: | Probably depends on what you're hoping to get for it |
| [17:44:33] | i_is_cat: | i put it up for $50 or trade on craigslist, kijiji, and usededmonton |
| [17:44:48] | iamlindoro: | HAHA, WHAT? |
| [17:44:59] | iamlindoro: | Why would anyone pay $50 for that card? |
| [17:45:10] | |chiz|: | what is it? |
| [17:45:37] | i_is_cat: | dude.. dont you have idiot friends who dont take your advice and spend $500 on a used pc that turns out to be a celeron 1.7ghz with 256mb ram? |
| [17:45:52] | i_is_cat: | im not trying to scam anyone i just want a card that works |
| [17:46:33] | i_is_cat: | which is why its also set for trade |
| [17:47:31] | iamlindoro: | $50 for that card *would* be a scam |
| [17:47:43] | i_is_cat: | |chiz|, its an ati tv wonder theater 550 pro |
| [17:47:47] | gbee: | oh, it's a tuner |
| [17:47:48] | iamlindoro: | It's $39 *NEW* |
| [17:48:02] | |chiz|: | USD? |
| [17:48:08] | iamlindoro: | Yes |
| [17:48:14] | gbee: | thought we were talking about a graphics card, which confused me |
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| [17:48:40] | i_is_cat: | im in canada thats $50 here.. |
| [17:48:52] | i_is_cat: | i just saw it on amazon listed at $175 and reduced to $80 |
| [17:48:53] | meshe: | you're being undersold: http://cgi.ebay.com/ATI-THEATER-550-PRO-PCI-E . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [17:48:54] | |chiz|: | is it digital? |
| [17:48:54] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, yours ain't new |
| [17:48:57] | i_is_cat: | thats why i chose $50 |
| [17:49:18] | gbee: | put it on ebay, people will pay more than the retail price for used hardware |
| [17:49:38] | i_is_cat: | thats not the card i have |
| [17:49:40] | gbee: | and as if to prove me wrong, enter meshe |
| [17:49:48] | i_is_cat: | mine has an antenna thing on the back too |
| [17:50:02] | i_is_cat: | ah.. thats a pci-e card thats why.. |
| [17:50:05] | i_is_cat: | mines just pci |
| [17:50:35] | meshe: | gbee: hehe |
| [17:50:51] | iamlindoro: | http://www.skyline-eng.com/index.cfm?fuseacti . . . duct_ID=6516 |
| [17:50:55] | iamlindoro: | $29 new, PCI |
| [17:51:37] | i_is_cat: | damn eh |
| [17:51:42] | meshe: | iamlindoro: but "Out of stock" |
| [17:51:44] | i_is_cat: | that link doesnt work for me |
| [17:51:55] | meshe: | they also carry one for under $20 |
| [17:52:22] | i_is_cat: | there were a few people on kijiji ive been searching the listings and they have other tuners available so i messaged them and asked about a trade but i doubt theyd want it.. |
| [17:52:23] | iamlindoro: | anyhoo, $50 is too much, you'll never get any bites |
| [17:52:39] | i_is_cat: | ya well if its selling for $29 new then you're right i set it way too high |
| [17:52:45] | i_is_cat: | ah well |
| [17:52:55] | i_is_cat: | ill sell it to a friend if i can.. |
| [17:53:16] | trumee: | \mode $me +x |
| [17:53:16] | i_is_cat: | or throw it out the window and then step on it until its buried in the mud |
| [17:53:30] | i_is_cat: | whichever is more economical.. |
| [17:53:32] | i_is_cat: | lol |
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| [17:53:42] | iamlindoro: | Or just sell it for a non-sipoff price |
| [17:53:48] | iamlindoro: | er ripoff |
| [17:54:00] | i_is_cat: | i'd have to go remove my ads and redo them... thats a pain in the ass |
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| [17:54:40] | i_is_cat: | of course it would also bump me up in the list... |
| [17:54:40] | meshe: | http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-comp . . . IdZ125663835 |
| [17:54:55] | i_is_cat: | thats my ad |
| [17:55:02] | meshe: | i know :) |
| [17:55:54] | i_is_cat: | i should just *give* it away to a windows lover.. |
| [17:56:09] | i_is_cat: | then i'd be a hero or something |
| [17:56:31] | meshe: | i always give my old hardware away |
| [17:56:54] | i_is_cat: | well i did get it for free and im a firm believer in what goes around comes around and all that junk |
| [17:57:08] | i_is_cat: | so if anyone i know is interested ill probably just hand it off |
| [17:57:27] | i_is_cat: | unless i get a bite online.. which at $50 is probably not going to happen.. |
| [17:57:51] | i_is_cat: | my ex would probably be happy to get it |
| [17:57:53] | kormoc: | i_is_cat, look for a freegeek in the area? Should be one in Calgary |
| [17:58:02] | i_is_cat: | freegeek? |
| [17:58:14] | meshe: | people are funny on craiglist, i put up my $1600 house speakers for $350 when i was moving (they had to go quick), someone offered me $100 |
| [17:58:16] | kormoc: | http://www.freegeek.org/ |
| [17:58:22] | i_is_cat: | and cowtown is pretty damn far away especially since i dont have a vehicle.. |
| [17:58:35] | |chiz|: | are the Atoms better than the C7-M ULV processors? |
| [17:59:09] | i_is_cat: | ooooooooooh.. i wonder if the electronics recycling place does trades.. |
| [17:59:14] | i_is_cat: | that would be cool |
| [17:59:17] | ** gbee shudders at the mention of Via ** | |
| [17:59:28] | i_is_cat: | via isnt so bad |
| [17:59:29] | |chiz|: | me too |
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| [18:00:20] | gbee: | pink theme? http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAdLargeImage? . . . 19ca_18.jpeg |
| [18:00:37] | |chiz|: | I guess if I could choose between a notebook that can run vista and another that can't the one that runs vista should be better |
| [18:00:47] | i_is_cat: | pink is my fav colour and yes i know i shouldnt be using that particular theme but its the only one i edited and im lazy |
| [18:01:33] | gbee: | if you like pink, who am I to judge? Just different :) |
| [18:02:02] | i_is_cat: | my whole linux system is pink coloured |
| [18:02:12] | i_is_cat: | cant remember the name of the gtk theme but its pink with hearts lol |
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| [18:04:52] | i_is_cat: | screenshot.. if anyone even cares lol: http://tinyurl.com/db5ugk |
| [18:05:08] | |chiz|: | ewe via chrome9 graphics |
| [18:05:13] | |chiz|: | how good is that in linux? |
| [18:05:16] | |chiz|: | :S |
| [18:06:01] | CyberKnet: | o_O |
| [18:06:19] | kormoc: | i_is_cat, I call bull, that's not a screenshot, there's no way that's usable as is... |
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| [18:06:56] | clever: | kormoc: that looks like part of compiz |
| [18:07:05] | clever: | it does stuff like that durring alt+tab |
| [18:07:31] | CyberKnet: | agh. Too much shiny. |
| [18:08:21] | iamlindoro: | Mmmm, SD video frame blown up to desktop size, nummy |
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| [18:08:52] | kormoc: | only 1/4 the screen is used for desktop apps, and they're curved, so it's not like you can read/use them... |
| [18:09:04] | CyberKnet: | iamlindoro: looks fine here. You mean people run resolutions bigger than 480x480? |
| [18:09:08] | clever: | kormoc: i beleive it would only do that when switching between apps |
| [18:09:25] | CyberKnet: | :P |
| [18:09:36] | i_is_cat: | uh ya thats compiz |
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| [18:10:42] | i_is_cat: | heres one that shows off the theme a *little* better.. http://tinyurl.com/dbmzla |
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| [18:10:54] | i_is_cat: | i pretty much took these to blow the minds of the windows loving friends i have |
| [18:11:19] | kormoc: | I have no comprehension of how anyone would use that... |
| [18:11:41] | clever: | looks perfectly fine to me |
| [18:11:46] | CyberKnet: | I think I'd blow my mind if I had to use that all the time. |
| [18:11:49] | i_is_cat: | thats the expo mode in compiz.. you can hit a keyboard shortcut or move your cursor to a spot on the screen and it zooms out like that |
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| [18:12:07] | i_is_cat: | so if you use virtual desktops and forget which app is on which vd, you can do that and check really quick |
| [18:12:23] | clever: | i used the cube alot |
| [18:12:30] | i_is_cat: | and i dont use compiz at all.. i only have it to show off when someone comes over, otherwise its never ever on |
| [18:12:52] | clever: | yeah, it uses too much ram and then starts swapping for the simplest thing |
| [18:12:59] | i_is_cat: | tell me about it |
| [18:13:02] | CyberKnet: | that's so ... clever. |
| [18:13:10] | kormoc: | you summoned the monster! |
| [18:13:25] | clever: | kormoc: ive been waiting silently to attack, for hours |
| [18:13:36] | CyberKnet: | Oh no! And we haven't yet chosen who will be the dragon warrior! |
| [18:13:50] | CyberKnet: | Where's a big squishy panda when you need one? |
| [18:14:00] | clever: | kormoc: i was using 2 laptops and a 20foot ethernet cord to extend my wifi signal |
| [18:15:10] | i_is_cat: | kormoc, have you never used compiz before? |
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| [18:15:18] | iamlindoro: | I shall protect you all, with my roll-on deodorant sword and toothbrush crossbow |
| [18:15:19] | kormoc: | Nope |
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| [18:15:49] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, we should find a wizard of the soap to enchant your weapons! |
| [18:15:54] | i_is_cat: | its definitely interesting to play with but by no means is it in any way more productive or anything than a regular desktop |
| [18:15:55] | clever: | using the cube with virtual desktops helps to give alot more screen area |
| [18:16:13] | iamlindoro: | kormoc: I'll wear my washcloth of +4 scrubbing into battle with him |
| [18:16:14] | Ponty: | Nothing beats more screen area than 1600x1200. :P |
| [18:16:23] | clever: | kormoc: soon that will have no effect, i am currently in the process of removing said muck&stink :P |
| [18:16:26] | i_is_cat: | sure it does |
| [18:16:46] | ** clever splashes iamlindoro with some of the bath water ** | |
| [18:17:02] | iamlindoro: | clever: Unlike you, that doesn't cause my flesh to melt |
| [18:17:05] | i_is_cat: | my old monitor did a weird res that was something like 1720x1550.. cant really remember the exact numbers |
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| [18:17:15] | i_is_cat: | i just remember looking it up online and thats the max it did |
| [18:17:17] | wagnerrp: | so you clean yourself with dirty water? |
| [18:17:41] | i_is_cat: | not to mention those 1900 res monitors my uncle has two of them.. a 26" and a 24" both pushing the 1900 res |
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| [18:17:51] | thantik: | My damn mythTV plays back squeeky voices – not sure if it's the backend or the frontend. |
| [18:17:57] | thantik: | =( |
| [18:18:11] | clever: | wagnerrp: it wasnt dirty when i got in:P |
| [18:18:23] | i_is_cat: | squeaky voices sounds like an issue with the tuner but it could easily be a setting |
| [18:18:38] | i_is_cat: | my tuner puts out bizarre sounds when opening it with tvtime then it gets normal |
| [18:18:39] | clever: | thantik: play the .mpg with mplayer and see what it does |
| [18:18:41] | thantik: | It has something to do with the sampling rate – I know the card should be recording at 32000, and I set the backend to limit to 32000, but when I load the front end...squeeky. |
| [18:18:45] | wagnerrp: | its like olden times... your weekly bath |
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| [18:19:06] | clever: | wagnerrp: 1st time this month! :P |
| [18:19:20] | thantik: | clever – I'm talking about the mythtv front end while watching live tv |
| [18:19:38] | clever: | thantik: livetv still records, find the file it made and play it |
| [18:19:41] | iamlindoro: | That is so god damn foul |
| [18:19:52] | clever: | and livetv has a seperate encoding profile, you may need to set that to 32khz also |
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| [18:20:19] | squidly: | heh nice :D |
| [18:20:19] | thantik: | I'll check the record. |
| [18:20:52] | squidly: | ty :D |
| [18:20:56] | squidly: | sorry wrong can |
| [18:20:56] | wagnerrp: | youre not using digital audio are you? |
| [18:21:43] | thantik: | no |
| [18:21:50] | thantik: | it's a $20 analog kworld card |
| [18:22:19] | deeemac: | having a hard time passing in a filename to a script to run a job from another server script, the %DIR% variable is giving myth://192.168.0.10:6543/1000_20090506111400.nuv but there is nothing there, do I need to set it up with a nfs share or something different? |
| [18:22:32] | CyberKnet: | Once you step into the quality tv tuner world, you'll never go back. |
| [18:23:10] | wagnerrp: | thantik: i mean for playback... wondering if youre recording at 32kHz, but playing back at 48kHz |
| [18:23:21] | thantik: | I THINK that's whats happening. |
| [18:23:34] | thantik: | But I don't know how to fix it. |
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| [18:24:10] | thantik: | in fact, one of the tutorials I had followed to get the card working in the first place, piped audio through arecord with a flag set for 32000 |
| [18:25:11] | thantik: | If I do: tvtime -M | arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | aplay -Dplug:surround51 — tvtime plays live tv just fine. |
| [18:25:42] | thantik: | I tried doing that to the front-end, but it didn't seem to want to do the same thing. |
| [18:26:52] | thantik: | where are the normal mythtv record files stored, I didn't change it from default... |
| [18:26:56] | thantik: | /var/something... |
| [18:27:15] | clever: | /var/lib/mythtv/ |
| [18:27:59] | thantik: | no wonder...I didn't even look in /lib – what a strange place to put the default. =/ |
| [18:28:25] | clever: | i changed mine years ago |
| [18:28:47] | clever: | i think i found it with du, was tracking down the massive disk usage |
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| [18:29:55] | gbee: | it's assumed that people will change it, in fact I don't know that we need a default, seems more sensible to force users to pick a location |
| [18:30:23] | clever: | and dont you say it should be seperate from mysql? |
| [18:30:26] | thantik: | well, still a linux nub here, but to me /var/lib means library... |
| [18:30:28] | gbee: | sticking it in /var on the same partition as the database is begging for trouble |
| [18:30:39] | clever: | mysql puts the data at /var/lib/mysql/ |
| [18:30:50] | clever: | thantik: i think your mixing it up with /lib/ and /usr/lib/ |
| [18:31:03] | thantik: | yeah – I chalk it up to my misunderstanding of the standard posix filesystem/directory layout |
| [18:31:03] | clever: | gbee: yeah thats what i was just saying |
| [18:33:07] | thantik: | So, when I load this up in mplayer, am I checking to see what sampling rate it picks up from the file? |
| [18:34:22] | clever: | that it atleast plays right |
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| [18:35:02] | thantik: | damn thing is still installing codecs so..we'll see in a min... |
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| [18:39:23] | JEDIDIAH__: | hullo all... |
| [18:39:37] | JEDIDIAH__: | any thoughts on hubs and the Hauppauge 1212? |
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| [18:40:04] | JEDIDIAH__: | I changed out my hub and the new one seems to be doing better <knock on wood>. |
| [18:40:19] | thantik: | opening the .nuv files with mplayer results in an 'internal data stream error' |
| [18:40:26] | JEDIDIAH__: | thought the other one was broken (wasn't but that's another story) |
| [18:40:35] | JEDIDIAH__: | nuv is a pretty funky file format. |
| [18:40:54] | JEDIDIAH__: | vlc does fine with it I think. |
| [18:41:05] | thantik: | I prefer vlc so I'll try that. |
| [18:41:58] | thantik: | bah, vlc plays back nothing. =/ |
| [18:42:17] | thantik: | clever was trying to help me figure out the squeeky voices while watching live tv with myth |
| [18:42:41] | clever: | have a closer look at the encoding/recording profiles |
| [18:42:46] | clever: | check the ones for livetv |
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| [18:43:21] | thantik: | how do I find those? |
| [18:43:43] | thantik: | I haven't found anything on the front end for setting sample rates |
| [18:44:05] | thantik: | and the back end the recording profile for that device is set to /dev/dsp1 with a limit of 32000 |
| [18:44:15] | JEDIDIAH__: | if vlc won't play it back, I would be inclined ot think the file is garbage. |
| [18:45:36] | thantik: | It's kinda funny watching kids cartoons with already high voices, and then having them upsampled to chipmunk voices...>_> |
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| [18:47:00] | JEDIDIAH__: | I never hear the chipmunk effect. What I get is a bit of a high pitched scratching noise. |
| [18:47:15] | JEDIDIAH__: | I get this occasonally with the PVR150 |
| [18:47:29] | thantik: | I tried the files nuv files again in vlc and they pretty much contain no video or audio |
| [18:47:34] | thantik: | but vlc acts like its playing it |
| [18:47:47] | thantik: | and the file size is on-par with what it probably SHOULD be. |
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| [18:51:38] | deeemac: | can you read a file through the myth://192.168.1.10:6543/file.nuv protocol through command line, not sure why it is passing this type of path with %DIR% on a transcode job instead of say a nfs share |
| [18:51:53] | thantik: | just checked around in the front end and it all looks like it's set to 32khz everywhere too =( |
| [18:52:07] | clever: | deeemac: only mythtv progs can understand that format |
| [18:52:13] | wagnerrp: | deeemac: sure, on programs designed to understand the mythproto |
| [18:52:30] | deeemac: | ahh got it, I assume ffmpeg does not! |
| [18:52:54] | thantik: | O_O, I fixed it – I think in doing so I may have found a bug. |
| [18:53:14] | wagnerrp: | im sure they wouldnt mind an input filter for reading mythtv links |
| [18:53:51] | thantik: | After searching through all those menus on the front-end, the sound fixed. I'm almost betting that on first-fireup the front end isn't setting ...or possibly reading some configs right |
| [18:54:35] | thantik: | Even though the back-end was set for 32khz – the front end didn't pick it up until I went into the menus...bug, or just oversight, I have no idea. |
| [18:55:24] | thantik: | when I went into the playback settings on the front end – I didn't change the settings, they were already at 32khz |
| [18:55:50] | thantik: | so I didn't even change anything, just going through the menus fixed it...O_o |
| [19:02:22] | thantik: | ttfn! – thx for your help clever. |
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| [19:04:00] | deeemac: | is there a page on what all the variables are that you can pass to a script? I can't seem to find it on the wiki or google |
| [19:04:10] | deeemac: | for the user jobs |
| [19:04:21] | deeemac: | only two I know of is %DIR% and %FILE% |
| [19:05:16] | deeemac: | nevermind found it! |
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| [19:26:39] | CyberKnet: | Heh. Just saw the freenode philosophy page that states "Friendly interaction is more efficient than flaming." .... I guess they've not been in here? :P |
| [19:27:28] | kormoc: | Ooh, we're not that bad at all, go to #slack or #deb and ask a noob question sometime... |
| [19:30:02] | CyberKnet: | I'm touched that you think I haven't :P |
| [19:30:03] | wagnerrp: | the problem is that every question has its place |
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| [19:30:27] | wagnerrp: | and the questions that belong here are ones related to mythtv, from people who have at least glanced at a manual or howto |
| [19:31:17] | wagnerrp: | when people some in here asking about xbmc, or winamp, or flowers, they get flamed |
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| [19:31:36] | gbee: | I'm inclined to say that we have let things slip in here, that would could be more tolerant and nicer, we weren't always this way |
| [19:31:38] | ** clever throws flowers at wagnerrp ** | |
| [19:32:10] | gbee: | my recent treatment in a couple of other channels was a wake up call, where I was labelled a troll simply for daring to have opinions different to those of the mods etc |
| [19:32:44] | wagnerrp: | do you live in a van, down by the river, under a bridge? |
| [19:32:46] | gbee: | I'm not saying that's the case here, but we're on that road |
| [19:33:15] | gbee: | wagnerrp: yeah, but what's that got to do with it? |
| [19:33:40] | clever: | i was living in the travel trailer, in the driveway |
| [19:33:40] | clever: | but dad doesnt want me stinking it up |
| [19:34:04] | ** gbee brushes his long rainbow hair ** | |
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| [19:34:40] | usg990a: | Running mythtv-0.21-fixes with patches for HD-PVR, is there a way to change the input selection on the fly (i.e. not using mythtv-setup) (specifically audio > SPDIF to rear RCA)? |
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| [19:35:27] | wagnerrp: | 3rd party backports are not supported in here |
| [19:35:46] | CyberKnet: | gbee: Yeah. I miss the days when the worst you had to fear in here was Beirdo's wrath. These days you could get third degree burns from some folks despite the fact that they're half a world away. I feel sorry for the folks in between me and them sometimes! ;) |
| [19:36:27] | wagnerrp: | usg990a: im going to say its not possible to do that |
| [19:36:39] | wagnerrp: | i doubt its possible to do that in trunk either |
| [19:36:58] | wagnerrp: | you may be able to set up two instances of your hdpvr |
| [19:37:10] | wagnerrp: | with different audio inputs |
| [19:37:25] | wagnerrp: | and then put them in a recording group so they are never both used at the same time |
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| [19:37:38] | usg990a: | wagnerrp: thanks. I picked up one and wanted to do some testing (restored DB after playing around). It was just something I noticed seemed to be missing |
| [19:38:19] | wagnerrp: | AFAIK, mythtv has never allowed that sort of control over capture card inputs |
| [19:38:32] | kormoc: | CyberKnet, I donno bout that... Perhaps we should be banning more of the frequent abusers? |
| [19:39:40] | GreyFoxx: | the number of flame wars in here has gone down imho, but the number of blatant pirates has gone up :) |
| [19:39:51] | GreyFoxx: | we never have distro wars any more |
| [19:40:02] | ** kormoc weeps ** | |
| [19:40:03] | usg990a: | I guess I was thinking of the variations on a PVR-150 (coax vs S-video/composite). But I suppose that is because the PVR-150 actually creates mutiple /dev/video# inputs |
| [19:40:11] | kormoc: | That's cause Ubuntu WON! |
| [19:40:16] | GreyFoxx: | mythbuntu helped there |
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| [19:40:27] | GreyFoxx: | no more "gentoo sucks" / "no you suck" stuff |
| [19:40:43] | wagnerrp: | usg990a: thats not exactly what those multiple dev nodes are |
| [19:41:01] | wagnerrp: | the PVR-150 supports all inputs on the primary node |
| [19:41:17] | GreyFoxx: | and politics never comes up any more :) |
| [19:41:18] | wagnerrp: | the three nodes are mpeg stream, video framegrabber, audio capture |
| [19:42:00] | kormoc: | Then we have drive-bys by folks like sysRPL who wanted to get developers to help teach him stuff for his own windows pay app and wanted to be treated like we're on efnet... |
| [19:42:11] | usg990a: | wagerrp: Yeah, your right. I guess I was thinking of them as separate inputs (although you couldn't record from more than one at a time). |
| [19:42:23] | CyberKnet: | GreyFoxx: That's because everybody agreed that gentoo *does* suck. |
| [19:42:35] | ** kormoc eyes CyberKnet ** | |
| [19:42:49] | ** CyberKnet eyes kormoc ** | |
| [19:43:01] | ** kormoc pokes CyberKnet in the eye ** | |
| [19:43:10] | squidly: | GreyFoxx: lol |
| [19:43:12] | ** CyberKnet pokes CyberKnet in the eye ** | |
| [19:43:14] | CyberKnet: | d'oh! |
| [19:43:25] | wagnerrp: | now youre blind1 |
| [19:43:33] | gbee is now known as OneEyedKing | |
| [19:43:43] | squidly: | ok time to take his drives and capture cards! |
| [19:43:53] | CyberKnet: | I still have one good eye squidly! |
| [19:44:05] | CyberKnet: | and you probably don't want my puny 250GB drives. |
| [19:44:07] | wagnerrp: | you poked yourself in the same eye? |
| [19:44:17] | CyberKnet: | wagnerrp: why would I want to be totally blind?! |
| [19:44:18] | kormoc: | That takes special talent |
| [19:44:18] | wagnerrp: | CyberKnet: those would make nice boot disks |
| [19:44:19] | squidly: | CyberKnet, you are just special ;) |
| [19:44:37] | squidly: | wagnerrp: I could alywas use more storage |
| [19:44:38] | wagnerrp: | actually, my recording disks are only 300GBs |
| [19:44:41] | squidly: | lvm ftw! |
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| [19:45:39] | squidly: | ok serious question here. what is a good HD card |
| [19:45:55] | kormoc: | Depends on so much stuff that it's hard to say? |
| [19:45:58] | wagnerrp: | what do you intend to do with it? |
| [19:46:06] | wagnerrp: | what kinds of slots do you have? |
| [19:46:08] | squidly: | wagnerrp: grab over the hair HD |
| [19:46:14] | Shadow__X: | gross |
| [19:46:16] | kormoc: | HDHR |
| [19:46:22] | wagnerrp: | awesome! OTH! |
| [19:46:27] | squidly: | PCI, on Pci express |
| [19:46:41] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: technically the HDHR isnt a card |
| [19:46:45] | squidly: | and pci-expressx16 |
| [19:46:46] | kormoc: | Heh, PCI != PCI-E |
| [19:46:48] | ** CyberKnet wonders if squidly has been on too many illicit drugs today ** | |
| [19:47:02] | iamlindoro: | I get my Internet via Fiber over Fur |
| [19:47:09] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, technically it is, just in it's own box ;) |
| [19:47:10] | squidly: | haha |
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| [19:47:21] | iamlindoro: | It carries Over the Hair HD too |
| [19:47:28] | Shadow__X: | iamlindoro, knowing comcast they would say such a thing |
| [19:47:41] | iamlindoro: | Unfortunately, on comcast the follicle ports are disabled |
| [19:47:44] | CyberKnet: | iamlindoro: mine is TTWC- Through The Water Closet. You *really* have to have a steady stream, but I tell you what, I got a heck of a lot of bandwidth! |
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| [19:48:26] | iamlindoro: | I get over 2 MS/f |
| [19:48:37] | CyberKnet: | what's that in LoC? |
| [19:48:37] | iamlindoro: | MegaSweaters per fortnight |
| [19:48:48] | squidly: | heh.. basicaly i'm looking to start replacing/upgrade my pvr-150 with HD capable cards |
| [19:48:55] | squidly: | dual-tuners would rock |
| [19:49:04] | CyberKnet: | HVR-2250? |
| [19:49:13] | iamlindoro: | Soon |
| [19:49:19] | wagnerrp: | it has preliminary digital support, no analog as of yet |
| [19:49:29] | iamlindoro: | should be a public release on the driver for it in the next few days |
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| [19:49:33] | CyberKnet: | oh right, he wants to *replace* his pvr-150. |
| [19:49:33] | iamlindoro: | digital, that is |
| [19:49:43] | Shadow__X: | eh you could either do hvr-1600 or write in support for hvr 1800 |
| [19:49:45] | kormoc: | I'd totally go for a HD Home Run, dual tuners, network device, sweet support |
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| [19:49:49] | Shadow__X: | i suggest write in support |
| [19:49:49] | CyberKnet: | I just accentuated my PVR-500 |
| [19:49:56] | wagnerrp: | do you need to retain analog support? |
| [19:50:06] | squidly: | wagnerrp: yes |
| [19:50:19] | wagnerrp: | so either keep the 150s, or get a 1600 |
| [19:50:23] | Shadow__X: | hvr-1800 just write afew lines |
| [19:50:25] | Shadow__X: | cmon |
| [19:50:34] | brendanthegreat: | Hi i'm new to the irc, I'm looking at setting up a myth backend with a pci tv tuner with analog and digital support. Any recommendations on cards? |
| [19:50:37] | CyberKnet: | What's the hold up with the 2250 and analog? |
| [19:50:41] | iamlindoro: | Shadow__X: Thought your patch would be done by now? |
| [19:50:48] | brendanthegreat: | I was thinking hauppage pvr-150 |
| [19:50:50] | CyberKnet: | or would I need to email steven toth? |
| [19:50:51] | squidly: | the 1600's can do digital and analong? |
| [19:50:55] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [19:51:13] | iamlindoro: | He hold up is that he's a volunteer doing it for free, with a family to feed ;) |
| [19:51:15] | squidly: | at the same time? |
| [19:51:28] | Shadow__X: | iamlindoro, uh if alot of stuff didnt come up it would of |
| [19:51:54] | iamlindoro: | suuuuure |
| [19:52:09] | kormoc: | brendanthegreat, no digital capture on that device, but it might not matter, depending on your source |
| [19:52:32] | CyberKnet: | iamlindoro: aaah, I wonder if voting with $$$ would help there like it did for digital... |
| [19:52:37] | Shadow__X: | believe what you may but there has been alot of family issues so over the summer i am moving out |
| [19:53:10] | kormoc: | squidly, http://www.silicondust.com/products/hdhomerun |
| [19:53:10] | CyberKnet: | does clear QAM work with myth on the HVR-1600? |
| [19:53:17] | Shadow__X: | yes |
| [19:53:17] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [19:53:26] | Shadow__X: | until comcast deletes it alll ! |
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| [19:53:38] | wagnerrp: | can we get a judge here? who was first? |
| [19:53:43] | iamlindoro: | Me |
| [19:53:49] | wagnerrp: | awww |
| [19:53:52] | mintee is now known as fail | |
| [19:53:52] | iamlindoro: | I said it the last time someone asked it |
| [19:53:53] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
| [19:54:06] | CyberKnet: | At the risk of asking a previously answered, simple, noob, dumb question ... what exactly is the difference between the 1600 and the 2250? |
| [19:54:08] | Shadow__X: | cheater |
| [19:54:17] | wagnerrp: | anyway, comcast CAN NOT remove the local broadcast channels from QAM |
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| [19:54:25] | iamlindoro: | CyberKnet: Single versus dual of each tuner |
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| [19:54:34] | wagnerrp: | the 1600 is a dual tuner, one analog and one digital tuner |
| [19:54:42] | squidly: | wagnerrp: ok coolness thanks :D |
| [19:54:49] | CyberKnet: | I see.. and the 1250 vs the 1600? |
| [19:54:50] | iamlindoro: | CyberKnet: 1600 = dual tuner with 1 each of digital and analog, 2250 = hybrid with two of either |
| [19:54:50] | wagnerrp: | the 2250 is a dual hybrid tuner, two tuners that can operate in each analog or digital |
| [19:54:52] | Guest25243 is now known as mintfail | |
| [19:54:57] | wagnerrp: | the 1250 has no encoder chip |
| [19:55:04] | Shadow__X: | no not local broadcast but they can give you a bunch of qam channels and when you get comfortable with all the channels they start deleting some and rearrange others |
| [19:55:08] | ** kormoc eyes mintfail ** | |
| [19:55:17] | wagnerrp: | and is hybrid, so you could only do analog or digital one at a time anyway |
| [19:55:18] | kormoc: | How do you know mint is failing for me right now? |
| [19:55:21] | iamlindoro: | Mmmm, delicious minty fail |
| [19:55:37] | iamlindoro: | I get all my fail in spearmint |
| [19:55:45] | wagnerrp: | Shadow__X: comcast moved everyone over to their DTAs |
| [19:55:56] | wagnerrp: | and because of the design of the DTAs, they can never be encrypted |
| [19:56:06] | wagnerrp: | (at least until comcast gets the laws changed) |
| [19:56:17] | Shadow__X: | DTA? |
| [19:56:24] | iamlindoro: | Digital Terminal Adapters |
| [19:56:34] | wagnerrp: | basically, a QAM tuner with analog outputs |
| [19:56:51] | wagnerrp: | it has some marginal crypto hardware, but since it is not modular, it cannot be used |
| [19:56:56] | squidly: | wagnerrp: that is thier "HD" STB right? |
| [19:57:16] | wagnerrp: | no, it is a very small box, not a full crypto-enabled STB |
| [19:57:23] | wagnerrp: | it can only access channels broadcast in the clear |
| [19:57:23] | CyberKnet: | And 2250 is as much as you get right now ... there's no non-hybrid version of the 2250? |
| [19:57:27] | Shadow__X: | wait so i should have some qam back is that what your saying |
| [19:57:29] | wagnerrp: | its meant to replace their analog lineup |
| [19:57:36] | iamlindoro: | It's an adapter they are passing out in certain markets where they are removing the analog lineup entirely |
| [19:57:54] | iamlindoro: | Mostly the major metro areas so far |
| [19:57:59] | iamlindoro: | (including mine) |
| [19:58:16] | squidly: | iamlindoro: iirc they are doing that to IIL as well |
| [19:58:17] | squidly: | .whos iamlindoro |
| [19:58:20] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: I actually used that SCTE-65 parser tool the other day, it works great |
| [19:58:23] | squidly: | oosp |
| [19:58:26] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [19:58:36] | CyberKnet: | paranoid yet iamlindoro? :P |
| [19:58:49] | ** iamlindoro pats the ol' cloak ** | |
| [19:58:50] | CyberKnet: | Everyone *is* out to get you... |
| [19:59:12] | ** mintfail waves at kormoc ** | |
| [19:59:24] | squidly: | kormoc: that looks pretty cool |
| [19:59:46] | kormoc: | squidly, it's quite awesome |
| [19:59:59] | squidly: | kormoc: how easy to they integrate with myth? |
| [20:00:11] | kormoc: | squidly, full support in myth from 0.20+ |
| [20:00:49] | squidly: | hmm |
| [20:01:29] | kormoc: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Silicondust_HDHomeRun |
| [20:01:58] | squidly: | kormoc: reading the ubuntu one as well |
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| [20:02:15] | ** squidly is running Ubuntu for my backend and mythbuntu for my frontend ** | |
| [20:03:32] | gbee: | 0.22_alpha20483 – we've released an alpha? How did I miss that? |
| [20:03:56] | kormoc: | Gentoo? |
| [20:04:01] | jams: | oh well, guess the patch for adding a popup to shutdown/reboot or show the version from the mainmenu wasn't wanted. ticket closed |
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| [20:06:34] | brendanthegreat: | kormoc: shaw cable in canada |
| [20:06:45] | janneg: | kormoc: I have only mythtv-0.22_alpha19054.ebuild which is not really better |
| [20:06:46] | brendanthegreat: | kormoc: my source is analog at the moment |
| [20:07:06] | gbee: | jams: Daniel was only reacting to the lack of a reply to Dibblah, I doubt that he even looked at the content of the ticket, we implemented a 30 day no reply clause to keep on top of dead tickets |
| [20:07:36] | kormoc: | janneg, sadly gentoo's build system only understands a few atoms in the versions, it's the best we can do :( |
| [20:07:37] | janneg: | and Cardoe is not around |
| [20:08:30] | kormoc: | https://www.kormoc.com/subversion/portage/media-tv/mythtv/ |
| [20:08:36] | janneg: | kormoc: I know, it's still wrong |
| [20:08:44] | kormoc: | 20145 is the latest I have |
| [20:08:57] | kormoc: | I keep meaning to bump it, but without the box to test.... |
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| [20:12:08] | squidly: | kormoc: gentoo's build system was pretty good, but it's gotten to broken latley |
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| [20:12:29] | jams: | gbee- i understand the reason, but i'm also not going to reopen it. Despite the fact the question was already answered when the ticket was first opened. |
| [20:12:32] | squidly: | I'm actually about to fully convert over to ubuntu |
| [20:12:45] | jams: | i'm perfectly happy applying to patch to my builds |
| [20:13:41] | janneg: | kormoc: alpha19054 is the only one in official portage |
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| [20:21:49] | luker: | Hello everyone. I have a running installation of MythTV. One of the channels is not set up the way I want it to. It's tuned to a shopping channel but I would prefer it to show the channel broadcasting The Simpsons. So I stopped the mythbackend service, changed the channel's frequency, run mythfilldatabase and re-started the mythbackend service. But the channel keeps trying to sell necklaces to me. |
| [20:22:24] | luker: | What am I supposed to do to change a channel's frequency? |
| [20:22:59] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [20:23:24] | meshe: | buy the cable company? |
| [20:24:11] | luker: | I'd rather change some setting on my end of the wire. |
| [20:24:23] | luker: | I just don't know wich one. |
| [20:24:57] | kormoc: | luker, why not just change to the correct channel? |
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| [20:25:26] | meshe: | if the channel is coming in on x frequency you can't change that, you have to tune to another frequency (ie change channels) |
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| [20:25:48] | kormoc: | meshe, he's after channel x on myth actually maps to channel y on the input |
| [20:25:56] | meshe: | OH |
| [20:26:12] | ** meshe shuts up and tries to absorb more caffeine ** | |
| [20:26:15] | squidly: | my question, why? |
| [20:28:59] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, hulu has a Eliza commercial now, fyi |
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| [20:29:14] | iamlindoro: | kormoc: Heh, I think I actually saw it a few weeks ago |
| [20:29:20] | iamlindoro: | She's no Jewel |
| [20:29:26] | kormoc: | it's true! |
| [20:29:38] | laga: | meshe: caffeine is good |
| [20:30:09] | meshe: | so is taurine |
| [20:31:47] | iamlindoro: | And uncle Jean |
| [20:32:02] | iamlindoro: | And acting mean |
| [20:32:15] | meshe: | iamlindoro: it's an act? |
| [20:32:25] | kormoc: | He's a softy at heart |
| [20:32:38] | iamlindoro: | LIES! |
| [20:32:40] | kormoc: | Soft... tender... heart... flesh... |
| [20:33:03] | meshe: | hehe |
| [20:33:48] | iamlindoro: | How silly to presume I have a heart to be soft! |
| [20:34:09] | iamlindoro: | Everyone knows I have a hydraulic pump that pumps black, oily evil |
| [20:35:19] | Shadow__X: | you would die |
| [20:35:38] | Shadow__X: | hydraulic pumps afaik are too slow |
| [20:36:07] | iamlindoro: | evil is extremely oxygenating, I'm fine |
| [20:36:13] | kormoc: | nah, he's just a black oil alien |
| [20:37:28] | Shadow__X: | what does timeout scanning qam-256 channel 79 — no tables mean |
| [20:37:45] | luker: | The channel scanner didn't find the station |
| [20:38:08] | iamlindoro: | More accurately, that there wasn't one to find |
| [20:38:17] | Shadow__X: | oh ok |
| [20:38:23] | luker: | So I thought that should not be a problem since I know the exact frequency. |
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| [20:46:10] | iamlindoro: | Watching my dog chase bugs on the webcam at home is more fun than working |
| [20:46:44] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, need a web developer to help watch webcams? |
| [20:48:28] | iamlindoro: | Not if your PyMythWeb project isn't done yet, mister |
| [20:48:37] | ** kormoc hangs his head ** | |
| [20:49:21] | meshe: | http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/projects/pip/ |
| [20:49:28] | meshe: | that should make that project easier |
| [20:51:36] | iamlindoro: | I hate work |
| [20:51:45] | iamlindoro: | Why can't I be sick more often? |
| [20:51:49] | meshe: | then quit? |
| [20:51:59] | iamlindoro: | I hate homelessness more |
| [20:52:08] | meshe: | ahhh, good point |
| [20:52:42] | Shadow__X: | thats alot of hating going on |
| [20:53:02] | Shadow__X: | dont you live in cali |
| [20:53:10] | kormoc: | I agree with iamlindoro |
| [20:53:20] | meshe: | my husband is working again, this makes me happy |
| [20:53:38] | iamlindoro: | Shadow__X: Yes, do you have any idea how much better it would be to be outside? |
| [20:53:50] | iamlindoro: | Preferably with the dog, possibly at the beach? |
| [20:54:00] | Shadow__X: | ah right gotcha |
| [20:54:22] | iamlindoro: | Plus I've run out of internets to read |
| [20:54:46] | Shadow__X: | i dont think you can run out of intertubes to read |
| [20:54:50] | Shadow__X: | there is alot out there |
| [20:55:02] | iamlindoro: | kormoc: http://www.xkcd.com/ |
| [20:55:05] | iamlindoro: | Read today's |
| [20:55:13] | Shadow__X: | sounds like you are just board with the selection and want out |
| [20:59:02] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, Aye! So awesome! ;) |
| [20:59:24] | iamlindoro: | I just want to know how she got out of the well I dug in the basement |
| [20:59:53] | wagnerrp: | the winch you lowered lotion on slipped off the edge and down the well |
| [20:59:56] | kormoc: | she's talented, that one |
| [20:59:57] | wagnerrp: | she climbed up the rope |
| [21:00:34] | iamlindoro: | It puts the lotion on its skin |
| [21:00:51] | iamlindoro: | Anyhoo, I didn't see her sneak out, I was doing that dance I do sometimes |
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| [21:07:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Humm... un-plugged the MCE receiver for a few hours, no change. :-( I wonder if plugging it into a wintel box would reset it back to 'normal'... |
| [21:07:35] | luker: | Does the frequency mentioned in the channel properties (in setup) have any meaning? |
| [21:09:02] | ** J-e-f-f-A does have a winblows 7 beta box here... Humm... ** | |
| [21:09:49] | ** J-e-f-f-A just wishes he hadn't mounted the receiver internally... now he's got to take it out to try his experiment.. ;-) ** | |
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| [21:18:26] | gbee: | I sense I'm going to fall out of love with Mandriva pretty soon, never thought I'd be saying that after so many years as a loyal user |
| [21:18:46] | clever: | http://xkcd.com/129/ |
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| [21:26:49] | jams: | gbee- why is that? |
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| [21:31:02] | gbee: | oh I filed a bug, a particular popular mail application wasn't showing up in the app menu, obvious bug right? Apparently not, ticket was closed with "This is wanted behaviour" ... |
| [21:31:53] | Shadow__X: | hmm |
| [21:32:17] | meshe: | what mail app? |
| [21:32:26] | gbee: | I can't begin to understand why they'd intentionally exclude this GUI application from the menu :/ |
| [21:32:29] | gbee: | kmail |
| [21:32:38] | meshe: | heh |
| [21:32:43] | kormoc: | That's super silly... |
| [21:34:05] | gbee: | for a second I thought it might be a KDE thing, I'm using LXDE on the netbook and maybe they think there is a good reason to exlude K* apps from that, but no, some other K* apps are listed |
| [21:34:29] | gbee: | and kmail is working perfectly under LXDE, so that can't be it |
| [21:35:55] | jams: | sounds like someone doesn't like kmail |
| [21:36:19] | gbee: | I considered that they wanted to keep the menus simple for netbooks, but there are all sorts of silly tools and widgets available through the menu, so that doesn't seem to be it either and it's a weak theory anyway, don't want a cluttered menu – just don't install apps that won't be used |
| [21:36:37] | meshe: | OT: i'm thinking of buying an Asus 1000HE netbook, anyone have any opinions on it or recommedations for other netbooks? looking for decent keyboard, long battery life and a decent size hard drive |
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| [21:37:10] | Shadow__X: | meshe, depends on the size of your hands |
| [21:37:48] | Shadow__X: | a friend of mine has it and he loves it but it feels extremely uncomfortable for me to try and type on it or use the trackpad |
| [21:37:53] | gbee: | I'm hoping that this is just a misunderstanding, but if I don't get a sensible answer I'll probably be irritated enough to consider Ubuntu Remix |
| [21:38:09] | meshe: | good to know Shadow__X |
| [21:38:28] | meshe: | i'll mess with the display model a bit before i buy it |
| [21:38:33] | iamlindoro: | meshe: I'm also casually considering a netbook, but tempted to wait until there's an ION one |
| [21:38:33] | Shadow__X: | yup also if you plan on upgrading the ssd there are bugs with some other brands |
| [21:38:46] | gbee: | did they sort out the keyboard with the newer Asus? The original Eee had a horrible keyboard |
| [21:38:57] | iamlindoro: | meshe: Because, much as I think VDPAU is a bit of a lame duck, would be nice to have the option on a netbook |
| [21:38:57] | Shadow__X: | gbee, its better |
| [21:39:05] | meshe: | supposedly the 1000he is nearly fullsize |
| [21:39:11] | meshe: | it's also not ssd |
| [21:39:30] | Shadow__X: | i guess he has the 1000h then or something like that |
| [21:39:38] | gbee: | that, for me, would be a tick in the 'bad' column |
| [21:39:43] | meshe: | it's a 10.1" |
| [21:39:56] | Shadow__X: | but eh i feel as if its too small i was going to get one of them |
| [21:40:01] | Shadow__X: | but then sided for a macbook |
| [21:40:09] | meshe: | but with an HDD it's still rated a 9 hours of battery life |
| [21:40:17] | Shadow__X: | because i can actually use the laptop for more than just browsing pages |
| [21:40:35] | gbee: | AA1 fits a nearly fullsize keyboard into an 8.9" frame FWIW |
| [21:40:48] | meshe: | i'm looking for one specifically for use on very packed busses and trains for my commute |
| [21:41:10] | meshe: | otherwise, i'd probably go macbook |
| [21:41:27] | gbee: | Shadow__X: that's what I have a laptop or desktop for |
| [21:41:38] | Shadow__X: | meshe, honestly if i could live with the underpowered cpu and not comfortable tracpad and keyboard i would get it |
| [21:41:43] | Shadow__X: | way cheaper than a macbook |
| [21:41:45] | shadash: | check this control out http://www.itvmedia.de/htpc-itvcontrol.htm |
| [21:42:27] | meshe: | iamlindoro: i'd love to wait for an Ion, but my time is limited, not having something I can code on while commuting 2.5 hours/day is driving me nuts |
| [21:42:27] | iamlindoro: | Someone wrote that web page in their made up language |
| [21:43:13] | shadash: | yea but the control is nice |
| [21:43:23] | iamlindoro: | meshe: Guess they're cheap enough that buying another in a year wouldn' tbe too bad a hit |
| [21:43:29] | CyberKnet: | THey don't show a shot with the depth visible. |
| [21:43:32] | iamlindoro: | shadash: Similar to the Sky remote IIRC |
| [21:43:44] | shadash: | link? |
| [21:43:47] | meshe: | yeah, and it would probably be new enough to flip for a decent $ |
| [21:43:52] | iamlindoro: | https://clarahost.clara.net/www.multimediasys . . . vigator2.jpg |
| [21:44:36] | meshe: | what i really want is a <= 10" macbook |
| [21:44:43] | shadash: | ohhh that ones even better |
| [21:44:46] | meshe: | but we can dream can't we |
| [21:44:54] | kormoc: | he 13.3 is awesome for myself |
| [21:45:25] | Shadow__X: | i def think for me a macbook is great i also like more resolution |
| [21:45:32] | Shadow__X: | 1024x600 eh |
| [21:45:39] | ** CyberKnet would still like a Harmony 890. ** | |
| [21:45:39] | Shadow__X: | need moar |
| [21:46:33] | meshe: | yeah, i'll probably throw netbook remix on it and make heavy use of screen and vim split windows |
| [21:46:59] | Shadow__X: | yeah |
| [21:48:34] | meshe: | anyway, their cheap and popular, if I don't like it i'll flip it, I paid more for my Palm T|X (what a mistake that was) |
| [21:50:41] | gbee: | Shadow__X: res, size etc makes sense when you consider the usage it was designed for, it's not intended to replace a desktop or laptop for most people |
| [21:52:22] | Shadow__X: | right |
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| [21:54:27] | meshe: | i *think* my dell 700m is 1280x800 |
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| [22:01:22] | gbee: | my 15.4" is 1280x800 |
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| [22:02:25] | gbee: | given that, having more than 1024x600 on an 8.9" .... though it would have been nice to have a higher quality screen which didn't need dithering |
| [22:03:59] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Well, it works fine on on Win7 ... Now to try it on my frontend again. (Hopefully whatever 'mode' it got in is now reset back to 'normal'...) ;-) |
| [22:05:08] | meshe: | the 700m is a 12" screen, and the fonts can be a bit small on that at 1280x800 |
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| [22:10:10] | Shadow__X: | 17 inch 1920x1200 |
| [22:10:12] | Shadow__X: | i like res |
| [22:10:30] | meshe: | thats great for a desktop |
| [22:10:41] | Shadow__X: | its a laptop |
| [22:11:00] | meshe: | yeah, laptop too, not a good commuting machine though |
| [22:11:28] | Shadow__X: | absolutely not thats why i want a macbook |
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| [22:15:13] | meshe: | i really want apple to relase a small form factor notebook, even if cost $800, that would be what I would go for |
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| [22:30:29] | gbee: | even if it spec'd the same as a device costing half that price? |
| [22:31:02] | kormoc: | it's never that much of a markup |
| [22:31:18] | meshe: | i need OSX for some dev work and I'd prefer to have a legit device |
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| [22:33:46] | RyeBrye: | OSX is really low maintenance. Unless you get paid organ-grinding-monkey wages, any "Apple Tax" tends to be paid off quite quickly imho |
| [22:35:05] | gbee: | I find linux to be low maintenance, but I guess it all depends how you use it – tinkerers are always going to find they spend a lot of time playing with their OS |
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| [22:35:32] | RyeBrye: | True. But I have Linux as my tinkering OS on my home machines :) |
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| [22:40:04] | gbee: | just don't foresee that I'll ever buy into the Apple hype so long as they maintain that pricing and probably not at all for desktop machines, since the ability to define my own hardware is more important to me that a pretty box/OS |
| [22:40:39] | gbee: | s/that/than/ |
| [22:40:49] | kormoc: | When I speced out my desktop, my mac pro was cheaper then building it myself |
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| [22:41:55] | gbee: | don't doubt that for a moment, building yourself is always more expensive these days, assuming you are starting from scratch |
| [22:45:24] | mzb: | (and/or not using 2nd hand parts;) |
| [22:47:19] | meshe: | our desktops are just get upgrades, usually cpu and video card until the mobo can't handle the current gen cpu then it's new mobo and possibly ram if that spec changed too |
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| [22:49:18] | meshe: | the only original parts now are the cases :) |
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| [22:51:33] | gbee: | my current case is maybe 7 years old, I can't really remember, every part in it has been replaced 2 or three times |
| [22:52:19] | gbee: | it's nearing the end of it's life, it needs replacing, but I've yet to find anything suitable |
| [22:52:37] | meshe: | why does the case need replacing? |
| [22:53:09] | gbee: | bits are falling off, but mostly I'm sick of the sight of it :) |
| [22:53:15] | meshe: | heh |
| [22:53:34] | meshe: | the latter is the only reason my husband wants a new case |
| [22:54:03] | gbee: | want something that's a little nicer to look it, but which also features more connectivity on the front, integrated SD card reader etc |
| [22:54:56] | gbee: | I could replace the existing USB hub thingy that sits in a drive bay, but I might as well kill two birds |
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