Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Thursday, April 30th, 2009, 00:00 UTC

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mchou:

datagen24: stb diagnostic screen

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mchou:

google your STB model # and "diagnostic"

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mchou:

plenty of instructions out there

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datagen24:

will do thanks for the help. you guys have a wounderful night

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Dagmar:

The FCC requires them to make a working firewire port available upon request

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datagen24:

the diag screen show the 1394 port is on but it is diabled due to copy protection on all of my channels expect the local public accses

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datagen24:

so it is not a myth issue I have to take it up with comcast

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datagen24:

thanks for the help

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mchou:

datagen24: when you say local acess, what channels do you mean?

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mchou:

like community cable channels?

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mchou:

or local networks like PBS?

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mchou:

NBC, ABC?

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datagen24:

the comunity channel that shows the town meetings, school board and the such

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mchou:

well, ABC, NBC, PBS should be accessible via firewire

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mchou:

go flame comcast on this if they enabled 5C on those channels

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mchou:

5C are not supposed to be enabled for those channels

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datagen24:

i do not get anything on anybody but channel 29 (the comunity channel) and I can pull an mpg file when I manualy tune it (test-mpeg2 -r 1 > test.mpg

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datagen24:

)

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datagen24:

Thats why I am going to head in to the local office tommrow and see if I can get it fixed

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mchou:

datagen24: what's the HD PBS channel for the stb?

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mchou:

datagen24: iow, what number do you need to enter on remote to get HD PBS?

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datagen24:

I do not see an hd pbs on my lineup

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mchou:

datagen24: whats your zip?

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datagen24:

03054

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mchou:

what's the call sign for PBS over there?

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datagen24:

WENH

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Dagmar:

They've enabled 5C then.

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Dagmar:

Game over.

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Dagmar:

If you're getting PBS and nothing else, you can just quit.

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Dagmar:

You will not be getting any farther than that.

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mchou:

datagen24: ignore dagmar. we havent finished troubleshooting

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datagen24:

k

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mchou:

datagen24: so to tune in to WENH, what number must you enter on the remote for the STB?

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datagen24:

11

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mchou:

datagen24: try 705

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mchou:

(ABC)

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mchou:

datagen24: you subscribe to basic cable level, right?

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datagen24:

digital basic

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mchou:

ahh, even better

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mchou:

711

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mchou:

WEKW (PBS) HD +

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mchou:

that PBS in HD

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datagen24:

ok tune it with the remote and ty again

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mchou:

keep in mind 5C depend on channel and (sometimes) even programming

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datagen24:

still nothing in myth, same thing on the diag screen on the box about copy protection

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mchou:

forget myth for now.

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mchou:

what does the TV display when you tune 711

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mchou:

i.e. TV attached directly to STB

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datagen24:

same thing thats on 11 the presidential press confrence

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mchou:

yeah, but does it look HD?

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mchou:

I mean is it letterboxed?

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mchou:

datagen24: the fine print on your channel lineup says you must be "Standard digital" subscriber to get 711 in HD, whatever that means

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datagen24:

yes

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datagen24:

and the tv says it is 1080i

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mchou:

good

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mchou:

so we know you can tune to PBS w/ STB at least

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momelod:

greetings channel

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mchou:

datagen24: try 704 or 705

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datagen24:

I can see all the channels in my line up on the stb

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mchou:

good

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mchou:

datagen24: call comcast and tell them to diable 5C for local channels

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momelod:

i have an issue when trying to use mythfrontend on my laptop. When i watch live tv, picture freezes after a short time. everything else (videos/recordings) play fine.

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datagen24:

i figgured thats what I have to do

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momelod:

if i use mytfrontend on the same machine where mythbackend is running.. the live tv plays w/o issues

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mchou:

datagen24: they're incompetent. Make sure you have a copy of FCC rules and regualtions when you call

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mchou:

datagen24: cause otherwise they'll just tell you to buzz off

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mchou:

write you off as some dork

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mchou:

datagen24: you need to be able to cite them chapter and verse when you call

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mchou:

datagen24: just in case they pretend to be stupid

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datagen24:

ok I had a copy when the tech was out this morning, so i will call them in the morning

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datagen24:

again thanks for the help

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mchou:

this is most likely beyond any local tech

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datagen24:

I figgured as much

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Dagmar:

datagen24: Dude, what did I say

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mchou:

it's the local cable franchise that's screwing up

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Dagmar:

They've enabled 5C.

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Dagmar:

You're not getting anything but PBS over firewire there.

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Dagmar:

Calling them won't change anything.

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mchou:

Dagmar: stop being clueless

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mchou:

Dagmar: he's not even getting PBS over firewire

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mchou:

Dagmar: so STFU

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Dagmar:

Cable companies are monopolies because they _can_ be.

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momelod:

here is my frontend/backend logs captured during the crash: http://pastebin.ca/1407989

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Dagmar:

You're not hooking any sort of PVR to that cable box unless a) you're renting it from them or b) you buy it from someone who has paid their "fees"

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Dagmar:

Pretty much your only option is to get a Hauppauge HD-PVR, provided they have working analog output ports, which they are very much obligated to make available no matter what, per FCC order

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Dagmar:

Right now, that firewire is good for 1) changing channels and 2) local broadcast stations

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Dagmar:

nomelod: EIther your notebook isn't fast enough or your network connection isn't solid enough

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Dagmar:

If you're using wireless, stop.

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momelod:

Dagmar: I am using wireless.. but, why is it that recorded television plays fine?

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Dagmar:

Dumb luck, probably.

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momelod:

?

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Dagmar:

Recorded TV and "live" TV are the same thing as far as a frontend is concerned.

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Dagmar:

It makes no difference to a frontend at all.

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momelod:

that's what i thought.. so if recorded tv plays fine, that should prove it is not a bandwidth issue?

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Dagmar:

Not really.

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Dagmar:

It only shows it hasn't glitched up while you were doing that

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momelod:

glitched up?

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Dagmar:

If your'e using a framegrabber card in your backend, that's the problem

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momelod:

im using a hauppauge pvr500

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Dagmar:

It's not a *bandwidth* issue

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momelod:

also, when watching recordings, i can simultaneously downloading large files.

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Dagmar:

It's a latency issue.

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Dagmar:

Wireless is NOT reliably a low-latency connection method.

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momelod:

k, i should try with the laptop directly wired, see if that makes a difference.

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Dagmar:

If you connect to your LAN with cat5 cables and it works, but doesn't over the wireless, then it's the wireless that's the problem.

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momelod:

going to try that right now..

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momelod:

back in a few

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rhpot1991:

anyone have working digital sound passthrough with HDMI?

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wagnerrp:

not me personally, but there are a couple of how-tos on the wiki

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Spirits-Sight:

does the latest mythtv for ubuntu support netflix stream and also close captioning

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wagnerrp:

no mythtv supports netflix

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Spirits-Sight:

so mythtv doen't support netflix stream? is there a plugin?

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wagnerrp:

not that i know of

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momelod_:

hey im back and wired in

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momelod_:

same problem, video stops after about 10s

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Dagmar:

Wow Lost started on time

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momelod_:

another thing i should mention is that in the previous version of mythtvfronent i did not experience this issue and was able to watch live tv on my laptop both on wireless and when connected to the wired network

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Dagmar:

So roll back to that version

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momelod_:

but that version is not compatible w/ my backend

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momelod_:

also, there are some features in this version i would like to keep

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Dagmar:

This tells me you might be mixing and matching releases

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Dagmar:

Don't. Ever. Period.

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Dagmar:

If you install 0.20 on your backend, that's what goes on ALL frontends.

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Dagmar:

If you install SVN r10642 on your backend, then you put that version on ALL your frontends.

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Dagmar:

Do not mix and match them even if they *appear* to work.

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Dagmar:

Doing this *will* cause weird problems

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momelod_:

frontend: 0.21.0+fixes19961–0ubuntu8. backend: 0.21.0+fixes19961–0ubuntu8

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momelod_:

my front/back ends match..

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momelod_:

sounds like im just sol here.. :(

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Dagmar:

Nah

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momelod_:

i do have another issue, more of an annoyance really but maybe you can help. When im browsing my recordings list, the scrolling will pause every so often and hang there for a second or two..

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Dagmar:

Keep the wired connection and look at what's going on with the lights when your video chokes

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Dagmar:

there's a LOT of things that could be broken

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momelod_:

u think it could have something to do with using ext3?

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Dagmar:

It could be bloody anything, but ext3 is one source of disk problems.

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momelod_:

i was using jfs, but switched to ext3 b/c there was no lvm resizing available for jfs

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Wicked:

hello all. i just hooked up my 2nd monitor and i seem to be having the same issue i used to have..when using twinview mythtv wont draw over the gnome panel

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momelod_:

has anyone used ext4 with any success?

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Wicked:

is there any way to get it to?

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Dagmar:

WHen you delete a large file on an ext3 filesystem--and MythTV pretty much doesn't have anything _but_ large files--it'll typically halt the whole system for 1s or more while it journals the disk delete.

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Dagmar:

Bigger numbers do not equal better.

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Dagmar:

Espcially when you're using the wrong type of filesystem altogether.

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clever:

ive got xfs on my 1tb drive and it seems to perform welll with large files

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Dagmar:

Wicked: Tell GNOME panel to stop sticking to the front layer of the screen

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momelod_:

clever: do u know if there is lvm resize support for xfs?

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clever:

i forget

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Wicked:

Dagmar, hmm well when i dont have both monitors hooked up mythtv draws over it fine

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Wicked:

...any ideas how i could get gnome panel to not draw on top?

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momelod_:

clever. it seems possible. i'll give xfs a try

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momelod_:

*but* what about ext4?

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momelod_:

i wonder if i should go that route instead?

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wagnerrp:

lvm just resizes the disk

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wagnerrp:

you would still have to resize the xfs partition afterwards

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momelod_:

wagnerrp: yes, but it appears that xfs has a resizing tool, where jfs does not

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momelod_:

xfs_growfs

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Dagmar:

nomelod: Wrong type of filesystem. *hemhem*

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momelod:

Dagmar: ext4 is brand spanking new..

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Dagmar:

ext4 will not solve the problem caused by long journalled deletes

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wagnerrp:

jfs does not have a resizing tool... because jfs does not need a resizing tool

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wagnerrp:

its built into mount, much like journal playback

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momelod:

so the partition table is aware of the additional disk w/o being updated?

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wagnerrp:

well you have to take care of that, but you would have to do so with ext3 and jfs as well

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wagnerrp:

err... xfs

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** Dagmar sniffs the air for weed **

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momelod:

right, thats what i mean.. jfs doesnt have a tool to do that.. at least not one i could find

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wagnerrp:

neither does ext3 or xfs, because the file system does not manage the partitions

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momelod:

other then mkfs.jfs of course, but then i loose all the data on the partition

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wagnerrp:

you resize the partition, and then you mount with '-o resize'

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wagnerrp:

its that simple

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califdreas:

momelod: re your playback probs: try to switch you current setting of "Always stream recordings from the backend". It's in your frontend's tv settings -> playback -> first page.

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momelod:

califdreas: should it be enabled/disabled?

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califdreas:

i just remember that I switched it back and forth on different frontends. just change the setting and see if it helps

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momelod:

thanks, ill try that

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momelod:

..after i convert my partitions :)

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Wicked:

hmm well this makes no sense...all other video players goto full screen fine. only mythtv fails to draw over the gnome panel

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momelod:

Wicked: not sure, but i do recall seeing an option somewhere in the settings to have mythfrontend run in a window. do you have that feature enabled?

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Wicked:

momelod, nope.

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momelod:

also, in the same menu.. u can manually set the screen size..

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momelod:

the X Y screen size

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momelod:

Wicked: another option might be to use another windows manager other then gnome.

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momelod:

or, set the gnome panels to auto hide?

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momelod:

right click panel -> properties -> check auto hide.

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Wicked:

hmm

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Wicked:

well this happened along time ago...it does the smae thing for kde,flux,xfce

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momelod:

auto hiding doesnt work?

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Wicked:

and im really settled in to my gnome desktop

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Wicked:

well it makes the menu less visable...but its still ontop of mythtv

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Wicked:

and very distracting

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momelod:

try setting it to run in a window... but set the window size to that of your desktop, or even a couple of pixles larger..

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Wicked:

ok let me try that now

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Wicked:

umm

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Wicked:

nope

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Wicked:

damn...i wish this had worked

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Wicked:

i wonder if this could be a bug in mythtv... all the other players seem to work fine with this

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craftyguy:

Does anyone know if there is an <action> equivalent in mythui main menu buttons?

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Spirits-Sight:

anyone know anything about mythflix?

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wagnerrp:

has nothing to do with netflix streaming

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wagnerrp:

its an interface to their older service

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Spirits-Sight:

really? that stinks, so whats the point of mythflix then?

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wagnerrp:

interfacing with the mail queue

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wagnerrp:

from back before you could stream movies

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wagnerrp:

those 5 years or so when netflix apparently had no purpose

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Spirits-Sight:

o ok, so what can I do to play video then??? thanks

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wagnerrp:

i know theres some program that will stream netflix films over upnp

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Spirits-Sight:

wagnerrp: whats that mean? I don't know much about thsi stuff

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wagnerrp:

you could rig that through the upnp client in vlc, stream it back over RTSP, and capture it using mythtv

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wagnerrp:

it means that if you want to use netflix streaming, you either are going to have to use a complete hack of a method of doing it

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wagnerrp:

or youre going to have to learn to program, and specifically how to reverse engineer, so you can figure out how 'playon' works

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Spirits-Sight:

yicks

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neb5:

hello everyone

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neb5:

i am new to mythtv, and i'm having trouble getting my TwinHan AD-AU500 (7240) ATSC Hybrid USB detected. Can anyone help?

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TM1111a:

neb5: quick search of google makes me think that the AD-AU500 doesn't work in linux

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neb5:

TM1111a: long painstaking search of google makes me think the AD-AU500 doesn't work either, but I did come across a page that offered a tar package, and i 'make' and 'make install' directory, seems to detect... it shows up as a usb device but doesn't show up in myth.

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iamlindoro:

A device will show up in lsusb with no driver at all

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iamlindoro:

unless you have a /dev/dvb/adapter#, you haven't got a working device

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wagnerrp:

check at linuxtv.org

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wagnerrp:

if they dont have the device listed

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wagnerrp:

chances are, its not supported in linux

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wagnerrp:

9.5hrs, and 49% done

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iamlindoro:

Not bd

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wagnerrp:

seems ive still got quite a ways to go

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iamlindoro:

bad

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wagnerrp:

thats terrible...

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neb5:

probably not. any inexpensive device thats recommended for mythbuntu?

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iamlindoro:

Heh, 20 hours is nothing when you're used to 3 day rebuilds

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wagnerrp:

ok... not bad

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wagnerrp:

apparently its cranking out 90MB/s

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wagnerrp:

i guess its reordering things linearly

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wagnerrp:

so thats running at disk speed

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wagnerrp:

single disk speed, i should say

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Shadow__X:

wagnerrp, rebuilding array?

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wagnerrp:

yeah

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wagnerrp:

8x750 to 9x740

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Shadow__X:

nice i am jealous of your speeds though

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Shadow__X:

i went from 4x1TB to 5x1TB and i did around 10–15MB/sec sustained

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iamlindoro:

jdfgl/sdfhkgsdfklg'fsdhgkl'sjgsdfjgsdfp'jhasdf'ghsyiputy9026725u7twe

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wagnerrp:

insightful

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iamlindoro:

ARGH

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iamlindoro:

WHY BOTHER

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wagnerrp:

isnt your dog a bit large to be walking on the keyboard

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iamlindoro:

forehead type good

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wagnerrp:

so just who is selling their cablecard tuners on ebay...

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RyeBrye:

would that cablecard bios trickery let you use a cablecard tuner in linux?

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Dagmar:

HAHAHHAHHAHaha

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iamlindoro:

No

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** Dagmar points and laughs **

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RyeBrye:

it sounded to me like it would just make it work in windows

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iamlindoro:

That's right

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wagnerrp:

i think it would work just fine!

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wagnerrp:

you just have to write drivers... and an interface to mythtv... and....

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RyeBrye:

sheesh that's it? give me a day

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clever:

pray to whatever gods you beleive in

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iamlindoro:

and break the build into-the-hardware DRM

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RyeBrye:

I'll just draw on some chip leads with a pencil and hope I guess correctly

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RyeBrye:

short a few pins... desolder a few caps, and hope I get lucky ;)

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iamlindoro:

ugh, rigoddamndickulous

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** iamlindoro swears off of further work on MythTV **

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wagnerrp:

what have people done now?

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iamlindoro:

I can either watch my patches decay in trac, or watch them be closed within moments even when they follow the *exact* approach set forth in current code

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iamlindoro:

Hundreds of hours well spent, all those

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iamlindoro:

I feel like god damn justinh

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hednod:

iamlindoro: no wonder mythtv development is so slow

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iamlindoro:

kormoc, I am thoroughly sick of it, I have tried my level best

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iamlindoro:

Including tiptoeing around the couple of high maintenance personalities, present company excluded

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Dagmar:

Well, in case you're not completely disenheartened yet, there's always the lecture Warner Music desperately doesn't want you to see: http://blip.tv/file/1937322

[04:44:51]

Dagmar:

It's about 47 minutes of pure logic from Lawrence Lessig

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wagnerrp:

so.. the 'vocal chords of millions of ordinary people have been lost'

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Dagmar:

There's a point to that, let him develop it

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wagnerrp:

so gone are the days of wave upon wave of bad singers... here come the multitude of drivel on blogs and video sharing sites around the world

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wagnerrp:

i dont think its gone, just changed

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wagnerrp:

for better or worse? i dont know...

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wagnerrp:

ah, he does go on with that...

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Dagmar:

He makes some very, very potent points.

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Dagmar:

Fairly arrow-shooter stuff in a few places.

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Shadow__X:

iamlindoro, dont give up yet i liked your work esp all the screenshots i saw

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Shadow__X:

thats one fan

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Shadow__X:

althought according to you since no patches i dont have a vote

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Shadow__X:

soo

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android60:

I want a system that will be primary a NAS but double as a mythtv backend, has anyone installed myth on either openfiler or freenas ?

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Shadow__X:

freenas isnt designed to be a full os

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Shadow__X:

its designed to be stripped down just to be a nas

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android60:

ya

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android60:

thats kinda what i thought

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wagnerrp:

mythtv has a whole crapflood of dependencies, and dependencies upon dependencies

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wagnerrp:

if you really want to try

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Shadow__X:

also bsd

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wagnerrp:

you may want to check out minimyth

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wagnerrp:

its designed specifically for 'mini' systems

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wagnerrp:

you can get it installed on as small as a 512MB flash card

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android60:

my main reason for openfiler and freebsd is the web management integration

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android60:

do i need an x windows for myth backend?

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wagnerrp:

yes and no

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android60:

heh ill just say yes

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Shadow__X:

for initial config and maintenance

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wagnerrp:

technically, you only need a minimal set of libraries to hook into

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wagnerrp:

and then you can run on a remote X server

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wagnerrp:

you dont need a full local server install

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android60:

ya thats what i thought, im just looking to see how much storage i need for os storage

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Shadow__X:

wagnerrp, with x forwarding?

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wagnerrp:

forwarding implies that youre using some outside program to redirect X

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wagnerrp:

youre already running low on power on those embedded NAS boxes

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wagnerrp:

why are you going to clutter it up with encryption on a high bandwidth stream

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Shadow__X:

wagnerrp, ssh x forwarding

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Shadow__X:

wagnerrp, so how would you run remote x server

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wagnerrp:

just do direct X forwarding

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wagnerrp:

'DISPLAY=<remote computer>:0.0'

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wagnerrp:

then use xhost to open access

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android60:

has anyone tried webmin ?

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Shadow__X:

hmm oh ok i didnt know about that

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wagnerrp:

or copy the secret key over, and set up proper authentication

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wagnerrp:

if your network is insecure such that you have to worry about sending unencrypted X over it, you have other problems

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Shadow__X:

right i wold agree with that

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oomph:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129053

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oomph:

anyone use this casE?

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wagnerrp:

theres a page for it on the wiki

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oomph:

thank you

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oomph:

wagnerrp, which case do you use?

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wagnerrp:

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16811182551

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oomph:

that case is the size of a fridge

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oomph:

a midget could live in it

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oomph:

jesus christ

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Shadow__X:

wagnerrp, you cheated thats how you can have so many drives

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wagnerrp:

how is that cheating? :)

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Shadow__X:

before when you were mentioning your case it sound like it was a normal atx case

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Shadow__X:

my lowly case cant compete with that

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wagnerrp:

i made no mention of a normal atx case

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wagnerrp:

i do remember mentioning that my case had 10 5.25" bays

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Shadow__X:

technicalities i should of known better

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wagnerrp:

although i actually lied, it has 11

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oomph:

i just use a Qnap NAS for my storage

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wagnerrp:

forgot about that one on the left side

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oomph:

nice little device

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oomph:

fast too

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Shadow__X:

yeah if i took out my hd cages i should have something kinda close

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Shadow__X:

if i take out cages i have 9

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Shadow__X:

but mine isnt double wide

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Shadow__X:

how heavy is that btew

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Shadow__X:

btw*

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wagnerrp:

well i can still lift it fully loaded

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Shadow__X:

hmm thats not being descriptive

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wagnerrp:

i dont know... maybe 20–25lbs empty

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Shadow__X:

so around what 100lbs

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Shadow__X:

125?

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Shadow__X:

fully loaded

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wagnerrp:

no idea, its more bulky and awkward than heavy

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Shadow__X:

ah ok

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kormoc:

15 lbs empty

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wagnerrp:

well there you go

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kormoc:

according to random googling

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kormoc:

whoops

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kormoc:

another site says 60 lbs

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Shadow__X:

a friend of mine has a full atx tower with around 10 drives and that thing gets hefty

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kormoc:

http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/system-cabinets/codegen-s-201/

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Shadow__X:

its still able to be moved just not what a normal comp weighs

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RyeBrye:

my mythbox apparently doesn't want to record "parks and recreation" ever

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RyeBrye:

oh wait, thats tomorrow

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RyeBrye:

ok. I'll wait until tomorrow to see if it misses it for a 3rd week in a row for now apparent reason – as of now I still see it listed in my upcoming recordings

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RyeBrye:

(albeit, it's on my 4th tuner)

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Shadow__X:

iamlindoro, no --purge now unless there is a underlying reason

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Shadow__X:

RyeBrye, maybe your 4th tuner is flaky

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RyeBrye:

It's a 2nd tuner on a PVR500

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Shadow__X:

hmm nvm that should be stable

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RyeBrye:

and shouldn't it say something in my log about it?

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RyeBrye:

Yeah, I'll monitor what is going on tomorow and see what is up

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Shadow__X:

RyeBrye, yeah have you checkd logs

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RyeBrye:

Yep – it doesn't show up in there at all. kind of strange

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RyeBrye:

I was away the last two weeks but I'll be around tomorrow

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k-man:

has the geforce 9300-itx wifi motherboard been released yet?

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wagnerrp:

not sure what you would use it for

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k-man:

isn't that the mb that everyons been wating for?

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k-man:

for front ends? or am I mistaken?

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wagnerrp:

depends on who 'everyone' is

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wagnerrp:

you obviously want a 9300 to use with HD video

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wagnerrp:

and HD video at HD bitrates is rather marginal over wireless

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k-man:

what's that chipset that is coming out soon (or is out) that will be good for hd playback?

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RyeBrye:

Its ok with 802.11n if you have perfect conditions

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wagnerrp:

well its ok with G if you have perfect conditions

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k-man:

wagnerrp: yeah, thats a problem with that board. i wonder why they only put g on it

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RyeBrye:

ok... it's ok over 802.11n if you have good condtions :)

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wagnerrp:

but less than perfect, and youre going to get less than reliable playback

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k-man:

my friend is runing hd over wireless n and it works well, but he had to put the wireless router close to the mac mini

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kees-jan:

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citybird:

when i run mythfilldatabase --manual how many times do i have to run though the channels? this is my 4th or 5th pass

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gbee:

heh, "I had to stick the wireless router right next to the machine, but at least it's wireless!"

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FR^2:

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xand:

and therefore shit.

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iamlindoro:

gbee, Thanks for the effort, but I don't see myself repeating that again-- Isaac likes to find fault with anything I do, and I'm sick of it. If that's how he treats someone who spends hours and hours on his project, I'd sure hate to see how he treats someone who is *unfriendly*. I think I'm done with helping for a while

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sid3windr:

^ sounds :(

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sid3windr:

guess I'll have to dig up the link to the archives again

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iamlindoro:

No, no archive of this nonsense

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sid3windr:

oh. :)

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iamlindoro:

But I have never so regretted an altruistic effort

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iamlindoro:

surely I've spent hours upon hours documenting MythUI, pushing for the theming mailing list, and then porting new effects to MythUI for my own god damn health

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Nockian:

how much free space should i allow for with auto expire? i've noticed that if i leave it at 5GB, the disk fills up because it may record two HD channels simultaneously and write 5GB to disk within the 15 minute check period

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clever:

then try 10gig

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sid3windr:

hmm

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sid3windr:

it doesnt autoexpire while recording?

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clever:

sid3windr: it only checks for stuffto expire every x minutes

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clever:

which sometimes, isnt often enough

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sid3windr:

ah, I see it now .. he said 15 min :)

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sid3windr:

yeah I see :)

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clever:

and sometimes, everything that can expire is in use(by commflagging) and wont expire

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sid3windr:

then you need a bigger disk :P

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Nockian:

clever: that's what i was looking for... some type of guideline for how much space to leave free for such things

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clever:

why is it waiting for a show to finish commflagging if its going todelete it when its done?

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clever:

Nockian: i might set it to maybe 150% of what you can generate in 15minutes, maybe more

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sid3windr:

because once you started something you have to finish it!

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Nockian:

sid3windr: i have a 2TB disk array, the amount of space in total isn't important. you could have 2TB and the disk will run out of space when it gets to the end and writes faster than it can autoexpire

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clever:

yeah my problem wasnt the total space, but that the 1gig that could expire to save it was in use

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Nockian:

i'm thinking 30GB would be fine, but i'd like to squeeze a bit more, so i'll try your suggestion of 10GB

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sid3windr:

Nockian: well, I wasn't pointing at you specifically, I said that regarding clever's comment about that everything on the disk is still in use being commercial so nothing could be deleted – if that's the case I guess you DO need a bigger disk ;)

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clever:

now that i have 280 gig on autoexpire, the problem wont happen very often

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clever:

theres no way i can have the whole 280g in use at once

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clever:

so something will expire when needed

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mzb:

I tend to have mine around 20GB ... thinking about increasing that again (lossless transcode on a 6–8hr recording takes up a bit of space;))

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Nockian:

i've ran out of disk space on Thursday nights specifically, when it was recording two HD shows and two analog shows simultaneously. it was writing much more than the 5GB of space i had allocated as 'free' at the end of the array within the 15 minute auto-expire period.

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Nockian:

so i bumped it up to 30GB and was fine..

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clever:

im keeping mine at 5g and i can only produce 2g/hour

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clever:

maybe 3g/h if i turn the frame grabber on

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clever:

but its got horid audio (high pitch bg noise)

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clever:

though thats the audio card to blame

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gbee:

iamlindoro: I know you are angry, but I'm sure it was nothing personal, in fact I nearly said the same thing before you started the patch last night, I never really meant to leave the effects in mythimage but it was quick and easy to put them there

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gbee:

Chutt has kept reminding me that these things were meant to be in the painters too

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CyberKnet:

oooh, the agony. I ordered a HVR-1250 before I saw that the HVR-2250 driver is very close to being ready.

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tmwsiy20121:

hmm I am looking at asus's website at this board (http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=ka4Zc9Wj4y1RINc4) and I see Integrated "NVIDIA GeForceÂ® 8 Series GPU" how can I tell if it supports VDPAU or not?

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marko_d:

i write channel names in mythtv-setup, run mythfilldatabase but i still get unknown in the osd

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JEDIDIAH__:

install the vdpau driver and let the fur fly

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** CyberKnet looks for what this VDPAU thing is. **

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tmwsiy20121:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU

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justinh:

heh. somebody on the -users list seems to be under the (false) impression that if users complain enough, devs will make changes. muhahaha

[14:18:31]

iamlindoro:

gbee, There was no reason the ticket needed to be closed so promptly, that was just out of spite. And yes, I am angry. He doesn't do a damn thing besides step in and act like an ass when he feels like it

[14:19:14]

** JEDIDIAH__ gave up on that idea a long time ago <snicker> **

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justinh:

iamlindoro: kinda saw that coming. your reaction is understandable

[14:19:25]

iamlindoro:

gbee, I am *never* the squeaky wheel, I *always* try to fulfill my own feature requests and usually succeed, and he can go to hell

[14:20:19]

iamlindoro:

justinh, Still angry 12 hours on. Actually installed XBMC last night and set up my media library there, I was so angry

[14:20:23]

justinh:

iamlindoro: *and* justified IMHO

[14:21:02]

CyberKnet:

now *this* sounds more interesting than VDPAU

[14:21:05]

justinh:

but no amount of saying how pissed off you are will change anything. if you give up on myth it's your loss and our loss

[14:21:21]

sid3windr:

fork it! fork it! fork it!

[14:21:28]

** sid3windr will be quiet now **

[14:21:31]

justinh:

forking is easy

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iamlindoro:

justinh, I'll likely get over it, I know that I'm just steamed and probably not being especially rational

[14:21:38]

justinh:

maintaining a fork ... hmmm

[14:21:40]

** iamlindoro sighs **

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sid3windr:

call it MuffTV !

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justinh:

iamlindoro: I'd def. say it was unfair & you have a right to be steamed

[14:22:21]

justinh:

not that it'll change anything

[14:22:25]

iamlindoro:

sure

[14:22:46]

iamlindoro:

It's a culmination of multiple things, really

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iamlindoro:

There are multiple people, and we know exactly who I am talking about, and I don't mean me, who *should* have commit access after all they've done, but don't because someone wants to preserve their secret treehouse club

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justinh:

I read it this morning & thought "uh oh"

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justinh:

iamlindoro: not forgetting the bloody top secret ML & the 'eyes wide shut' meetings

[14:25:32]

iamlindoro:

And as a result of someone wanting to be the sole vendor of the secret handshake, I and others have dozens of patches rotting in trac

[14:25:44]

justinh:

makes a mockery of the whole dev/user relationship

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iamlindoro:

justinh, yes, and the former although the latter I can do without ;)

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iamlindoro:

not that I doubt gbee looks fantastic in a piggy mask and nothing else ;)

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iamlindoro:

gbee, I use you because you know I like you and figure you know I'm joking :)

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CyberKnet:

must ... close ... mental ... renderer

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justinh:

ahh politics

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justinh:

how far advanced would the oSS world be without them... and egos

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justinh:

lol

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iamlindoro:

As I said to someone else last night, like I give a good god damn about darkening and lightening images

[14:31:19]

iamlindoro:

I just know that gbee is all alone doing the MythUI stuff and figured if I could do a *little* that might be friendly and make him feel a little less all alone in it

[14:31:28]

iamlindoro:

what a backfire

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justinh:

preaching to the convert here

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justinh:

mythtv can die for all I care

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CyberKnet:

I'd rather it didn't.

[14:32:48]

justinh:

be a pisser, what with all the hard work people put in despite the brickbats & bad attitude

[14:33:04]

CyberKnet:

Then I'd have to get a Tivo, and I'd never hear the end of the lack of comercial skip and time stretch from my wife.

[14:33:23]

justinh:

CyberKnet: so if a project dies it'll stop you using it?

[14:33:26]

justinh:

weird

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justinh:

it's not as if it'll cease to exist :P

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CyberKnet:

No... but it would take more than development ceasing for a project to die, wouldn't it?

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justinh:

arghh. damn ghouls at work looking for unedited footage of the Queens Day car smash where 4 people were killed

[14:39:31]

CyberKnet:

I mean, as long as there are users, it's at least *somewhat* alive.

[14:40:06]

CyberKnet:

maybe in the nerves-twitching, just won't lay down and be still kind of sense though.

[14:40:11]

justinh:

it's way easier to just be a user

[14:40:17]

CyberKnet:

way easier.

[14:40:28]

justinh:

not a supporter/contributor

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justinh:

*advocate, even

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CyberKnet:

which thread brought this on?

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Anduin:

none, it was in trac/irc and seems a lot more tame when read

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tmwsiy20121:

hmm looks like that boad will support vdpau

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tmwsiy20121:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131343R

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tmwsiy20121:

$126 with hdmi as well

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iamlindoro:

Anduin, He has made one change in SVN and 0 ticket changes in three months, and steps in to close a 15 minute old ticket when I argue with him even slightly

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iamlindoro:

This after I've busted my hump for months on myth, on both patches and documentation-- if it wasn't punitive, it sure as hell *felt* that way

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: I'm sure it was just timing, I doubt he has a rule to notify when you create tickets, he even used a smiley

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iamlindoro:

What smiley?

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: the :p when he said you just did it the wrong way

[15:03:56]

iamlindoro:

That's no more a smiley than :(

[15:04:06]

iamlindoro:

whatever, doesn't matter

[15:04:16]

iamlindoro:

Like I said, a culmination of frustrations

[15:04:38]

Anduin:

and sphery not having commit I don't understand but that is a short list

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GreyFoxx:

I thought he didn't want commit. He's said that over and over

[15:05:10]

GreyFoxx:

unless he was kidding and I didn't realize it

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Anduin:

yeah, that is what I've always assumed

[15:05:12]

iamlindoro:

He's good natured

[15:05:18]

kormoc:

He actually does

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kormoc:

and I've actually even talked with Isaac recommending him getting access before

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GreyFoxx:

heh I always tell my wife, don't expect me to assume that what you tell me you want isn't exactly what you meant :)

[15:06:18]

GreyFoxx:

I think he should have it

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kormoc:

I think very highly of sphery so if you guys would like to toss your votes in the ring, that'd be awesome imho :)

[15:07:05]

GreyFoxx:

Same here

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Anduin:

iamlindoro: and you and sphery should both be sainted (or whatever you prefer) just for your help here/on the ml

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GreyFoxx:

send them to spring break with a wagon full of booze :)

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wagnerrp:

ooh! done rebuilding

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Jakal:

can anyone give me a little help? i just got an hd tv and im trying to get the resolution set right. i think the problem is in the horizontal and vert sync. my tv manual says its hor 47.7 vert 60. but the xorg.conf file has value ranges. im not really sure what to put there.

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wagnerrp:

well the WD green cooler than my other WDs, which are in turn cooler than the seagates

[15:24:15]

wagnerrp:

but none of them come close to the samsungs

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gbee:

rather than repeating myself in private three times over, it would really help if kormoc/Anduin and Greyfoxx added their votes to the current tally

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Anduin:

My vote has been with sphery for some time (not that any other access has ever been granted by vote)

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kormoc:

I already have, but I'd be happy to re-address it again

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Anduin:

I was really hoping more would come of the "new dev" thread on the developer list months ago

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wagnerrp:

initialization is running at ~310MB/s

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RyeBrye:

Jakal: does your TV not do EDID? I've always just plugged my computers into my TV and they've been able to determine the proper res / freq automatically

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CyberKnet:

ditto what RyeBrye said.

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Jakal:

im not really sure if it does or not.

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RyeBrye:

are you plugging it into VGA or HDMI?

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Jakal:

prior to using this lcd tv i was using an old crt thru s-vidieo. resolution was at 1024x768. when i plugged in the lcd tv to the vga it went to 800x600

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Jakal:

vga

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Jakal:

and im using an nvidia card btw

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RyeBrye:

Try going to your screen settings and seeing if you are able to change the resolution

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Jakal:

yea i did. only thing there is 640x480 and 800x600

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Jakal:

and now im getting the low graphics mode thing

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Jakal:

i try to configure the tv there but it never works

[15:35:57]

Jakal:

and my tv isnt in the list it has

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wagnerrp:

1. you were not running XGA over S-Video, your card was downscaling internally

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CyberKnet:

I use an HDMI output on my motherboard, I suppose.

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Jakal:

in fact no sharp tv's are

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wagnerrp:

2. why are you not using a digital interface? card not support it?

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Jakal:

my nvidia card doesnt have an hdmi out

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CyberKnet:

does it have a DVI out?

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Jakal:

yea, but my tv doesnt have a dvi in

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CyberKnet:

does it have an HDMI in?

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Jakal:

yea

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CyberKnet:

you can get converter cables from DVI to HDMI

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CyberKnet:

for like six bucks from monoprice.com

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wagnerrp:

for most purposes, DVI and HDMI signalling are compatible

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wagnerrp:

you just need a cheap adapter, or a conversion cable

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Jakal:

you think that would fix the problem?

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wagnerrp:

either can be picked up for a couple dollars

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CyberKnet:

It would give you a much better picture.

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wagnerrp:

it would increase the likelihood that your TV will send proper capability information

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CyberKnet:

Right.

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Jakal:

hmm, ill pick one up then. i just really wanna get this thing working today

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wagnerrp:

although over short distances, its not going to make a big difference on quality

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Jakal:

i had this same problem each time i change the display

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CyberKnet:

wagnerrp: That's interesting. I thought it looked clearer when I used DVI instead of VGA – but I suppose if my mind wanted to see a better picture, it could have convinced its self it did.

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jamiem:

iamlindoro: have you tried gopchop?

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wagnerrp:

CyberKnet: your tv could have been doing different things with the digital and analog feed

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iamlindoro:

jamiem: I have not, doesn't look like it's been touched in a long time

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wagnerrp:

but over a few feet with a decent VGA cable, there is going to be very little signal loss

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iamlindoro:

jamiem: Your mentioning it was the first I had heard of it

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jamiem:

Stable is 2004, but Devel is March 2009

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iamlindoro:

ah, ok

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jamiem:

I just did a very simple one-piece chop and it seemed to work ok

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jamiem:

I have been using mpeg2cut2 like you said in wine

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iamlindoro:

Heh, 4 posts to their dev list this year

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jamiem:

:)

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jamiem:

the Debian package in lenny is 1.1.8–1 or 'devel'

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jamiem:

iamlindoro: one issue is that it doesn't like plain DVB .ts

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jamiem:

I had to run it through mencoder -of mpeg -ovc copy -oac copy first

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jamiem:

which doesn't take long so no real hardship

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gbee:

CyberKnet: in my experience HDMI was far superior to the image I got through VGA, colours were much better etc

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gbee:

I'm sure I could have got VGA looking as good, but HDMI/DVI just worked

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clever:

vga is analog, it will suck in comparison to any digital output!

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iamlindoro:

So sayeth the spokesperson for new technology, clever

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wagnerrp:

only if you have a long run, a cheap cable, or a noisy environment

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sid3windr:

lol iamlindoro =)

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sid3windr:

and well

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sid3windr:

a 1m VGA cable between pc and 20" at 1680x1050 gave a way less nice image than the same monitor connected over dvi

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wagnerrp:

20"? not 22"?

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iamlindoro:

That said, the analog capture, and subsequent reencoding of video on the HD-PVR (at high bitrate) is virtually indistinguishable from the original to my eye

[16:07:05]

iamlindoro:

The only place I can tell is logo edges

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wagnerrp:

my aged 17" Sony is hooked up to my desktop over DVI, and test machine over VGA

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wagnerrp:

i cant really tell the difference in image quality

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wagnerrp:

and thats a 12' VGA run through a KVM switch, vs. a 6' DVI run

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gbee:

I've two nearly identical 19" screens (same model, different revisions), one connected via DVI and the other by Analogue, I can't see an obvious difference although I had to spend ages calibrating the older monitor when it was connected via analogue, the newer model connected via DVI required no calibration other than a reduction in backlight levels

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gbee:

the difference was nowhere near as apparent as it was with the TV

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wagnerrp:

ugh... finished initializing

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wagnerrp:

i need to remember never to do anything in 'foreground'

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wagnerrp:

the machine was nearly unusable during the process

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jams:

and to add to the datapoint two identical 24 inch screens. One connected via DVI the other via VGA, no difference between the two. However on the 46 inch screen the difference between vga and hdmi is noticable but only when looking for it.

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iamlindoro:

at least some forms of analog will likely become more and more important to us as DRM becomes more draconian, namely the capturable ones

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jams:

yep

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jams:

oh good no more meetings for the next few hours, might be able to get stuff done.

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wagnerrp:

oh fun... 10 minutes spent trying to take down a maze of mounts, services, and programs, only to have the system panic, reboot, and take care of the file-system expansion for me

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clever:

lol

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clever:

you need online resizing!

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clever:

thats trivial with reiserfs!

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clever:

mount / -o remount,size=.....

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clever:

done!

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wagnerrp:

mmmuuuuuurrrddeer FS?

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clever:

never tried it

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wagnerrp:

apparently JFS does the same there

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wagnerrp:

thing

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wagnerrp:

someone was in here last night complaining that JFS didnt have a resize utility like XFS or Ext3

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CyberKnet:

man I am hungry today :|

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CyberKnet:

brrraaaaaiiiiiiiiinnnnns.

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CyberKnet:

heh :D

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wagnerrp:

damned zombies... keep popping up all over the place...

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** laga is having some toast with cheese and bacon **

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mib_3lx5g039:

hows everyone

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laga:

dude, didn't get you get banned the other day?

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** laga is fine, thanks :) **

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mib_3lx5g039:

me? not i...i'm a day one newb...first time to try mibbit....(was first on the google list of web irc chat)

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laga:

oh, sorry. you are a mibbit user

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laga:

shame on you :)

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mib_3lx5g039:

agreed

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mib_3lx5g039:

struggling along trying to learn to many things at once

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mib_3lx5g039:

any suggestions to a good ir chat for centos?

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laga:

err, shame on me

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meshe:

xchat, irssi

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laga:

konversation if you're using kde

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mib_3lx5g039:

gnome i blv...a default install

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marko_d:

i'm close to setting up mythtv as i like

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marko_d:

what stuff do i need to backup so that in case of a meltdown i can revert

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wagnerrp:

just the database

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wagnerrp:

theres directions to do so on the wiki

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marko_d:

wagnerrp: so it stores every valuable info like channels, xmltv data & settings there?

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wagnerrp:

the only thing it doesnt store are recordings, and how to access the database

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OzoneCo:

xchat...mibbit gone!

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marko_d:

seems like xmltv is kept in .mythtv

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wagnerrp:

or if youre running plugins, video, music, images, games...

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marko_d:

yeah + that

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marko_d:

i just wan't to store my channels

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wagnerrp:

yeah, scraper scripts are not in the database, but ive never had to use any 3rd party ones

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marko_d:

it is hard to set up as i like

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cainlevy1:

hello everyone — so i've got some troubles watching tv (firewire connection to a dch6200 stb) but have been banging my head against log files for a while now. my test is running `mythtv` (bypassing the frontend). when i've freshly restarted the backend i get http://pastie.org/464031, after which i get http://pastie.org/464028.

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cainlevy1:

(the status information from the frontend also continuously says "tuner is unavailable")

[17:06:24]

wagnerrp:

'mythtv' should never be run directly, unless you absolutely know what youre doing

[17:06:53]

cainlevy1:

i get the same results running `mythfrontend` from the console, but `mythtv` replicates the problem faster

[17:07:17]

wagnerrp:

well if the tuner is 'unavailable' neither of them are going to work

[17:07:36]

cainlevy1:

so i've played with mythprime and firewire_tester, and i'm able to use mythchanger to successfully control the stb

[17:07:51]

cainlevy1:

wagnerrp: makes sense :)

[17:08:14]

wagnerrp:

also, frontend and 'mythtv' logs are absolutely worthless

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wagnerrp:

because they never touch the tuners

[17:08:24]

wagnerrp:

you need the backend logs

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cainlevy1:

the backend log is silent

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wagnerrp:

so make it more verbose

[17:08:51]

wagnerrp:

the frontend logs will tell you nothing about why a tuner is not working

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cainlevy1:

where do i control backend log verbosity?

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wagnerrp:

same way you controlled it with 'mythtv'

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wagnerrp:

just do a '-v whatever'

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cainlevy1:

kk

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marko_d:

channels done, now gonna tamper with the XMLTV beast

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wagnerrp:

make sure you run it as the same user your init scripts would

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wagnerrp:

or edit the init scripts directly to change the verbosity

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cainlevy1:

done, and restarting backend

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cainlevy1:

http://pastie.org/464049 is what i see in the backend when failing to run `mythtv`

[17:12:47]

cainlevy1:

is there a better way to test the tuner?

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wagnerrp:

never used firewire, dont know

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dubstar_04:

hey, Ive been away for 2 weeks and come back to see a 0.23 branch has been added. Does this mean we could be looking forward to a new release in the not too distant future?

[17:15:31]

wagnerrp:

branch in svn?

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RyeBrye:

0.23 branch? heresy

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wagnerrp:

i dont see it...

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dubstar_04:

not branch, a milestone

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dubstar_04:

sorry

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wagnerrp:

there have been 0.22 and 0.23 milestones in trac for some time

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dubstar_04:

oh, there wasnt two weeks ago!

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CyberKnet:

iamlindoro: I tried out Terra for the menu fix ... it looked great, but every so often the mythfrontend would close. I wasn't running it from a terminal or logging, so I didn't see why. ALso a lot of missing images. I switched back to Iulius for now.

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RyeBrye:

Terra isn't finished, so that is expected

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CyberKnet:

Right, I wasn't expecting a perfect theme.

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CyberKnet:

What I saw I very much liked though.

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wagnerrp:

looks like gbee added it, and shifted a handful of things over last thursday

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RyeBrye:

There are a lot of cool themes in the works – but all the the themers are holding them close to their chests

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dubstar_04:

my laptops broken so i cant test trunk :-(

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RyeBrye:

trunk runs on desktops now oto

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CyberKnet:

If I was much for theming, I'd try to fix the problem I am having with iulius.

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CyberKnet:

It's not a huge issue though, so I'm happy waiting for 0.22

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dubstar_04:

RyeBrye: it might do for you but if my mrs used it and it broke on her I would be sleeping in the shed!!

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wagnerrp:

three days??? it took my neighbor most of the summer

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RyeBrye:

This one is from a kit

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RyeBrye:

it SUPPOSED to be easy.

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wagnerrp:

well he should have easily been done in under a week

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dubstar_04:

is trunk stable enough to use day to day?

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wagnerrp:

dubstar_04: i have since back in december

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** meshe laughs **

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wagnerrp:

it depends on what you consider stable

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wagnerrp:

if youre willing and capable of working through issues

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wagnerrp:

(and you dont have someone else to worry about complaining about it)

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CyberKnet:

Yeah. I had to map a "restart mythfrontend" button on my remote after going years without one.

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meshe:

my trunk install has worked flawlessly

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meshe:

but, i just have a pvr-150 in it recording the occasional show

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dubstar_04:

I am really tempted to give it a whirl!

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wagnerrp:

CyberKnet: why not just run a loop restarting mythfrontend automatically when it crashes?

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meshe:

dubstar_04: there will most likely be bugs in it

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CyberKnet:

wagnerrp: I'm not a smart person.

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CyberKnet:

:P

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meshe:

i'm still running 21-fixes for my production systems

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cainlevy1:

ok, so even with '-v all' for my backend this is all the log i get: http://pastie.org/464076. i don't see any problems in it, so where should i look next?

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CyberKnet:

I'd be much better off if I would have used a loop, and instead mapped my remote button to "kill mythfrontend" for when it freezes.

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wagnerrp:

cainlevy1: the problem isnt with livetv

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wagnerrp:

livetv will just tell you it failed, because there were no tuners

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cainlevy1:

right

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wagnerrp:

you have to check earlier to figure out why mythbackend is marking your STB as unavailable

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cainlevy1:

what might make that show in the log?

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marko_d:

xmltv found some errors, duplicate entry with mythfilldatabase --manual and it seems like going in circle (i asks me about the channels)

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Anduin:

cainlevy1: the network/DB stuff is usually noise, -v most, and if there is a channel change script involved that is usually a good thing to look at when the backend first starts

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wagnerrp:

maybe general, record, channel, file, socket, extra

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cainlevy1:

i switched it back to -v most

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cainlevy1:

anduin: my channel changer is external (mythchanger, from ubuntu forums) and appears to work manually ... what might i look closer at?

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Anduin:

cainlevy1: when the backend starts it runs over all capture devices, look there to see if anything failed

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marko_d:

now i run only mythfilldatabase and i'll see how it goes

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cainlevy1:

alright, when the backend starts the log says `No capture cards are defined: Please run the setup program.` so ... at the risk of sounding like an idiot, does it mean mythtv-setup? because i've run that probably thirty times by now looking for any settings to change. :/

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wagnerrp:

thats the one

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wagnerrp:

you ran mythtv-setup on the same machine running the backend?

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cainlevy1:

yes, it's a single machine frontend/backend

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wagnerrp:

you did steps 2, 3, and 4 in order?

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cainlevy1:

which sequence of steps are you referring to?

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wagnerrp:

in mythtv-setup

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cainlevy1:

capture cards -> video sources -> input connections?

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wagnerrp:

theres 6 numbered items

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wagnerrp:

yep

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cainlevy1:

yes, i did, though i can certainly try again

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cainlevy1:

i'll delete my capture card and start over

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Anduin:

it also looks like you have a different address for MBE (just a guess), -v most the backend startup after card config if it still doesn't work

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cainlevy1:

you mean the 0.0.0.0:6543?

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Anduin:

cainlevy1: No, I mean 'adding mythtv as a ' SBE

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wagnerrp:

did you not kill the instance of mythbackend already running?

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cainlevy1:

running mythtv-setup automatically stops the mythbackend before running and restarts after finishing

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Anduin:

it is just a raw IP compare to determine SBE/MBE (or was last time I looked)

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wagnerrp:

no it doesnt

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Anduin:

cainlevy1: that is ubuntu magic so won't be assumed

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cainlevy1:

(i'm waiting for mythfilldatabase to finish)

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Anduin:

(in here)

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cainlevy1:

kk :)

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wagnerrp:

ubuntu automatically kills the backend if you start the setup? funky...

[17:44:02]

wagnerrp:

nothing like protecting users from themselves

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Anduin:

I've only hear so, don't ubuntu myself

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cainlevy1:

http://pastie.org/464106

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cainlevy1:

it uses the init.d script

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meshe:

it does

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cainlevy1:

i'm confident that it works because of the "no /usr/bin/mythbackend found ..." message on line 4

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cainlevy1:

ok, i re-ran steps 2, 3, and 4 in order and ran mythfilldatabase

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cainlevy1:

stopped the backend, restarted

[17:46:27]

cainlevy1:

backend log still reports "no capture cards are defined"

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cainlevy1:

hmm

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cainlevy1:

i'd like to confirm that this backend is using the right settings

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Anduin:

it isn't, pastebin mythbackend -v most (after waiting for it to stop outputting)

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cainlevy1:

http://pastie.org/464129

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cainlevy1:

i ran `su mythtv -c "mythbackend -v most"`

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cainlevy1:

because the init.d script also runs as the mythtv user

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cainlevy1:

i think it may be a hostname mismatch

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cainlevy1:

logged into mysql and ran `select distinct hostname from settings` and i get mythtv, tv, NULL, and localhost results

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cainlevy1:

i'm tracking down that "tv" hostname setting

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Anduin:

cainlevy1: you are running mythtv-setup as?

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cainlevy1:

not the mythtv user, if that's what you're wondering

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cainlevy1:

but it writes settings to the database, right?

[18:01:33]

Anduin:

and the per-user settings file (~/.mythtv/mysql.txt)

[18:01:47]

Anduin:

which can also have a hostname override

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cainlevy1:

is the db hostname related to the settings hostname?

[18:02:33]

cainlevy1:

i haven't had any issues connecting with the db yet

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Anduin:

it isn't

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Anduin:

run mythtv-setup as the mythtv user

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cainlevy1:

ok, i think this problem has been solved

[18:06:38]

cainlevy1:

in the myth frontend setup, i had set the hostname to "tv"

[18:07:10]

cainlevy1:

when i cleared that field (so that it would default to the system hostname) and wiped all hostname='tv' records from the mysql settings table, i revisited mythtv-setup

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cainlevy1:

at which point mythtv-setup showed no registered capture cards

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cainlevy1:

so i went through steps 2 and 4 again (capture cards and input connections), and restarted the backend

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cainlevy1:

so now i'm curious: why would the setup action from the mythfrontend affect the backend tuners?

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wagnerrp:

was it something you set in 'mythfrontend'? or do you have some other setup program for the frontend?

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cainlevy1:

i run mythfrontend, and from the main menu pick "utilities / setup" > "setup" > "general" and go to page 2 "Database Configuration 2/2"

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cainlevy1:

so my confusion, rephrased, is that mythtv-setup was filling out a settings profile named in the mythfrontend, but mythbackend was using a different settings profile. that seems like an awkward coupling between backend and frontend configuration. is this a ubuntu problem?

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cainlevy1:

well now that my settings are actually being used, a new world has opened up :)

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cainlevy1:

thanks for your help wagnerrp and anduin!

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Anduin:

it was almost certainly a mismatched ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt with a LocalHostName (or whatever it is) override

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Jakal:

Can someone help me? I am trying to set my screen resolution to 1360x768. but eah time i do the screen gets garbled then goes blank. this is the resolution of my hd tv. anyone know how to fix it?

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schlazor:

Jakal: try a channel for whatever distro you're running first

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Jakal:

yea, im in #ubuntu but it goes so fast people dont answer. and i dont wanna be a dick and keep asking every 2 minutes

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meshe:

try #ubuntu-mythtv, it's quiet in there, ask your question and wait a while, they may be able to help you

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BaZiL:

after upgrade my webmyth seem to have taken over all my subdomains, how can i remove that ?

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Jakal:

oh cool thanks

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BaZiL:

Jakal . its just as quiet in there ;)

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meshe:

BaZiL: you'd have to move it into it's own subdomain, it's probably set up in the default configuration

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BaZiL:

meshe . what file, it doesnt show in httpd.conf

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meshe:

if it's ubuntu, then it's probably in /etc/apache2/conf.d/

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BaZiL:

ah . thanks

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BaZiL:

hmm . in /etc/apache2/conf.d/ i only see charset and security

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BaZiL:

any other suggestions ?

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meshe:

meshe@meshe:~$ ls /etc/apache2/conf.d/

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meshe:

charset mythweb.conf security

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meshe:

grep -r mythweb /etc/*

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meshe:

what version of ubuntu?

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meshe:

/etc/apache2/sites-available/\

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meshe:

that's where it is on my production box, sorry, i was looking at my trunk install

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BaZiL:

9.04

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BaZiL:

can i have all the sites in one .conf .. or do i make one conf for each site

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BaZiL:

?

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meshe:

best practices for ubuntu is one site per file, but technically, one conf file can manage any number of sites

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BaZiL:

ok ..so i just make a conf file in sites-available with the info i had before .. and call it sitename.conf ?

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BaZiL:

then it should work ?

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meshe:

imho, best practice is to keep your sites in separate files

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meshe:

then make a link to in in sites-enabled

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meshe:

in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled do ln -s ../sites-available/sitename.conf sitename.conf

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BaZiL:

so it needs to be made in availiable .. and linked in -enabled ?

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meshe:

yup

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gbee:

don't ask me why, but myth really flies after that distro upgrade

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kormoc:

which update?

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BaZiL:

meshe this is the errormsg i get now [Thu Apr 30 21:01:14 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts

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gbee:

Mandriva 2009 to 2009 Spring

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meshe:

then you need to add virtualhosts :)

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jams:

obviously is't the extra spring bit thats doing it

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BaZiL:

in ports.conf ?

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kormoc:

a bit of a spring in it's step?

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gbee:

heh

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jams:

gotta be it. I would skip 2009 fall

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meshe:

BaZiL: you need <VirtualHost> directives around your sites in your config, apache should already be set up to listen to port 80

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meshe:

this is getting a bit beyond mythweb issues and more into apache support

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BaZiL:

heh .. yes . im sorry meshe ..

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BaZiL:

let me know if i bother u 2 much

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BaZiL:

but if i cant fix this . i cant backup and restore my myth

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BaZiL:

and my myth is fucked up ;(

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kormoc:

Language please....

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BaZiL:

sorry

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BaZiL:

my myth is messed up

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meshe:

if the problem is that mythweb is taking over your sites, remove the mythweb.conf link in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and your virtualhosts should work again

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CyberKnet:

It's sad that it's surprising that a place on the internet has nice language policies.

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marko_d:

i get failedtodownload error when running mythfilldatabase

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marko_d:

what might be the problem?

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kormoc:

if you get it once and it works once and repeats in that style, nothing's wrong

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BaZiL:

meshe .. i found it ..

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marko_d:

kormoc: i don't have probram guide

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BaZiL:

i removed the port in port.conf

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BaZiL:

then it worked

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marko_d:

*program

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meshe:

oh, are all of your sites configured for 8080 or something?

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marko_d:

working now

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marko_d:

removed old video sources config files & channel icon in channels

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BaZiL:

great ,, now site is solved . no onto the mythtv ;(

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BaZiL:

Help .. every update or driverinstallation i want to do . it hangs up at Loacing LIRC modules .. what can i do to correct that ? .. it happend after upgrade to 9.04

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BaZiL:

actually during that update

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wagnerrp:

try in #ubuntu

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BaZiL:

thanks

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jarle:

so.... I'll need to have qt3 installed to compile mythtv-stable? qt4 will not do the trick? (I just updated to a KDE4-only system and I'm having problems compiling mythtv....

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kormoc:

yes, -fixes is qt 3 only

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wagnerrp:

-fixes runs on qt3, trunk runs on qt4

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wagnerrp:

nothing in between

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CyberKnet:

0.22 will be a big deal, I suppose.

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kormoc:

"It's just a number!"

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Captain_Murdoch:

and as of a week or so ago, trunk only runs on qt 4.4

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Captain_Murdoch:

previously it would work on 4.3 minus the qtwebkit stuff.

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** meshe thinks it should just jump to .23 for fun because of all these people that are "using 0.22" now **

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kormoc:

I was thinking we should just jump to 1.23 so folks stop asking for a 1.0 release

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meshe:

hehe

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wagnerrp:

to hell with numbers

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wagnerrp:

the next release will be MythTV Orange!

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kormoc:

but then the terrorists win!

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meshe:

MythTV Albert, MythTV Bob, MythTV Colbert

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kormoc:

we'd get the Colbert bump!

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CyberKnet:

I've heard that can lead to the ugly bump.

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CShadowRun:

Don't suppose there is anything that allows you to capture/view multiple channels at the same time?

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CShadowRun:

I'm just curious because TV's and other devices seem to be able to do it

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CShadowRun:

and they don't have a capture card for every channel :P

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iamlindoro:

Actually, all devices that capture multiple things at once *do* have multiple tuners

[22:37:12]

iamlindoro:

Myth can record multiple things from a single digital tuner provided they are on the same multiplex

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iamlindoro:

which is the most *any* device can do

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iamlindoro:

beyond that, multiple records will *always* be multiple tuners

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** dustybin gives iamlindoro a cup of tea and some chocolate biscuits **

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CShadowRun:

hehe, ok

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CShadowRun:

i was just thinking it'd be pretty neat if you could get something that allowed you to plug the satalite straight into the computer and do whatever you liked, freesat wise

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iamlindoro:

You *can* plug the dish straight into a DVB-S card and watch freesat

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CShadowRun:

oo, that's fun

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CShadowRun:

but not record/view multiple channels, right?

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iamlindoro:

If they're on the same multiplex, yes

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CShadowRun:

what does that mean?

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CrawfordComeaux:

I'm looking to setup a computer to replace the two satellite company-provided dual-tuner DVRs I currently have. Am I going to be buying 4 tv tuners for the machine and will mythtv support that many inputs?

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iamlindoro:

CShadowRun, digital television pacakges several channels into a multiplex, with multiple multiplexes making up the complete lineup

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CShadowRun:

oh, i see

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iamlindoro:

Myth can record one multiple per digital tuner

[22:41:20]

iamlindoro:

That is not a fact of life limited to myth, however

[22:41:36]

iamlindoro:

multiple recordings from multiple multiplexes will *always* require multiple tuners

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CShadowRun:

yea i understand what your saying

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iamlindoro:

Whether it's myth, a set top box, or anybody else

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CShadowRun:

so how can i find out more information about a multiplex? (like how many channels and which channels are packed into it?)

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iamlindoro:

From your provider or, in the case of freesat, on lyngsat

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iamlindoro:

http://www.lyngsat.com/astra2d.html

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CShadowRun:

i see, cool

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CShadowRun:

makes sense now :)

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CShadowRun:

so, sounds like i'd be best buying atleast 1 DVB-S tuner

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iamlindoro:

each transponder represents a package of channels that can be simultaneously recorded by a single DVB-S card

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iamlindoro:

Yes, although you may wish to wait until DVB-S2 support comes to myth, as I understand at least part of freesat is on DVB-S2

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iamlindoro:

then you would buy a DVB-S2 card

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CShadowRun:

i see

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CShadowRun:

any ETA on that?

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CShadowRun:

(or any better suggestions than freesat)

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iamlindoro:

there's a ticket in trac for DVB-S2 support, so whenever that gets commited

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iamlindoro:

or fixed and committed, that is

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CShadowRun:

hehe

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iamlindoro:

which could be tomorrow, or could be when the sun shrinks to a cold, dead cinder

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CShadowRun:

lol

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CShadowRun:

worth waiting on it?

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iamlindoro:

hopefully closer to the former than the latter

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iamlindoro:

If you're in no terrible rush it probably is worth waiting on, yes

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iamlindoro:

no point buying hardware that might not eventually allow you to capture the channels you want

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CShadowRun:

cool, i'll hang about then

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CShadowRun:

true :)

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CShadowRun:

most of the media i want comes from the internet anyway so

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CShadowRun:

thanks for the explanation :)

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iamlindoro:

no problem

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iamlindoro:

CrawfordComeaux, Myth will support four capture devices fine, but as you are in the US, you will still need four sat set top boxes to feed them

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CShadowRun:

iamlindoro got a link to the trac? can't seem to find it

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iamlindoro:

And if you hope to capture HD content, then the one and only device that can do that from your sat top boxes is the Hauppauge HD-PVR, which will not have support until the next version of myth

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iamlindoro:

which you would also need four of

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iamlindoro:

CShadowRun, just search for DVB-S2

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Dibblah:

AFAIK, the S2 patch will no longer apply to trunk after the channelscan merge.

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iamlindoro:

yeah, ISTR hearing that as well

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CShadowRun:

iamlindoro i took a look but i'm not sure which one i'm after

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iamlindoro:

fourth result for "DVB-S2"

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CShadowRun:

S2API support?

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iamlindoro:

yes

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CShadowRun:

cool

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CShadowRun:

i shall watch and wait :)

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CrawfordComeaux:

Ok...so STBs are still needed for using PVR software on the computer?

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iamlindoro:

CrawfordComeaux, for satellite in the USA, yes

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iamlindoro:

4 x STB, 4 x capture devices

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iamlindoro:

where, for HD content, capture devices = Hauppauge HD-PVR

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iamlindoro:

(and a wait until the next version of Myth)

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CrawfordComeaux:

no need for HD

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iamlindoro:

Then any number of captures devices would work fine

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CrawfordComeaux:

but we've only got 2 dual-tuner STBs

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iamlindoro:

The dual tuner STB is only worth one tuner for Myth purposes

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CrawfordComeaux:

let me just state the goal and see if that changes anything: We've got 2 satellite lines, each going to their own dual-tuner STB. We'd like to be able to A) record 4 channels at once, B) still watch tv while recording (if possible), and C) cut costs where ever possible

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iamlindoro:

Changes nothing for a, still need four set top boxes to record four signals, you can record and watch at the same time in Myth, and c) not my field of expertise

[22:58:07]

iamlindoro:

But as a general rule you won't save money by going to myth

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iamlindoro:

Myth gains you flexibility and control over your media, but you will spend money at it

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CrawfordComeaux:

what I mean there is that I'm looking to spend as little as necessary for the computer

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iamlindoro:

"The case involved Christopher Michael Dean, arrested after he and a partner robbed a Rome, Georgia, bank five years ago. "

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iamlindoro:

Hmmm... he hasn't been around for a few days...

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gbee:

now I've been accused on trolling #kdevelop, my day just gets better

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gbee:

s/on/of/

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superdump:

http://pastebin.com/m46e7fcc8

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superdump:

hrm

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kormoc:

gbee, over your fav bug?

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superdump:

also, earlier i tried to watch some tv for the first time after getting the frontend to start (i disabled pulseaudio entirely in ubuntu jaunty in favour of alsa) and the frontend displayed a blank screen, then fell back to the meny

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superdump:

menu*

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superdump:

i exited the frontend, then later started it up again (same backend instance on the same machine) and again tried to watch tv, this time it just seemed to get stuck at the menu

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cesman:

superdump: you need to check your logs (/var/log/mythtv)

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superdump:

ok

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cesman:

superdump: I'd suggest you tail the frontend log or start the frontend from an xterm

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superdump:

i have been

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superdump:

let's see

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superdump:

http://pastebin.com/m4b04735b

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superdump:

that first paste i made a minute ago was accidentally trying to run a second mythbackend

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superdump:

the paste i just made is running only one

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superdump:

i've run mythtv-setup and scanned for channels

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gbee:

kormoc: well that came up, but my original purpose for going there was to discover how I was supposed to open a project created in kdevelop 3 with the new kdevelop 4 ... in hindsight I could have worded things better, but I don't really like being labelled a troll

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gbee:

safe to say I probably won't be a kdevelop developer anytime soon, but I noticed a help wanted sign in their channel's topic ;)

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gbee:

"Have C++ and Qt 4 experience? The KDevelop project needs you!" Yes, Yes, err No

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kormoc:

hehe

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superdump:

there is a segfault issue when doing a full scan though so i have to import a channels.conf

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superdump:

http://pastebin.com/d68beb746 <--- gdb backtrace

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gbee:

superdump: known bug relating to QT3 which is not easily fixed and so it hasn't been in 0.21, shouldn't exist in 0.22 when released though

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superdump:

hmm

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gbee:

you can avoid it by running: taskset -c1 mythtv-setup

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superdump:

but i'm using qt4 and current trunk...

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gbee:

really, heh, ok I just assumed it was that bug

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superdump:

or recent trunk at least

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superdump:

:)

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cesman:

or a distro that takes the bug into account ;)

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iamlindoro:

Very recent trunk just had the channel scanner merged in, which is in a known state of upheaval

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gbee:

superdump: ok, open a ticket, DanielK will want to take a look at that one

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superdump:

iamlindoro: indeed :)

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superdump:

ok

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iamlindoro:

and yeah, probably a good time to get your problem looked at quickly :)

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iamlindoro:

(ish)

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superdump:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6500 <--- i guess i'm experiencing that one too

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superdump:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6513

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superdump:

there we go

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