MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

Daily chat history

Current users (206):

adante, Agrajag-, akv, aliby-, aloril, andreax1, Anduin, AndyCap, anykey__, at0m, BaZiL, Beirdo, benc_, bulle, cafuego, Caliban, califdreas, Captain_Murdoch, ccfreak2k, cesman, chainsawf, ChanServ, charlieS, citybird, clever, Commo-work, Computer_Czar, CoreDump|afk, coszmos, Cougar, crankharder, crichardson, croppa, Dagmar, dan__t, DarK``, DarthDam, Dassu, datagen24, Dave123, ddettman, dec, deminished, Dibblah, dimbulb, dlblog, dougl, dustybin, elmojo, eNeRGi_, Essobi, EvilBob, Exstatica, Faithful, flexy, flindet, Floppe, FlyOnThe1all, ForsGump, gagbro, gbee, gbutters_work, gnome42, gregL_, GreyFoxx, grokky, growler, Guest49166, Gumby, hachi, hatchmt, hednod, Heliwr, Honk, Huijari, iamlindoro, ivor, i_is_cat, J-e-f-f-A, JacobBro1n, jamesd_, jamiem, jams, janneg, jduggan, jgoss, jhulst, Josh_Borke, jpabq, justdave, justinp_home, kabtoffe, kali67, KaZeR, keith4, keith4_, Kevin`, kormoc, kothog, KraMer, kurre2_, LabMonkey, laga, Led-Hed, linagee, LiNERROR, Lollero, Lord_Deathscythe, Loto, lydgate, Mace, MaverickTech, mbamford, mchou, meshe, mgisbers, mikeones, MilkBoy, mishehu, moodboom, MythLogBot, my_key, mzb, nagnag, Nockian, nrpil, ogreinside, olejl, opello, packetscan, Patina, pat_, Pebby, pfn, pheld, pigeon, pisani, PointyPumper, poodyp, Pooky, psetti1, psipsi_, purserj, quadtree, quicksilver, quigleymd, qupada, radi0head, RDV_Linux, rhpot1991, riddlebox, rojo, rooaus, ruskie, RyeBrye, schlazor, Scopeuk, shadash, Shadow__X, sid3windr, simcop2387, skimj, slayven, SlicerDicer, Slim-Kimbo, sphery, sphex, squidly, squish103, st3ph4n, styelz, Sulx, Supaplex, superdump, sutula, tank-man, tarbo, tfm, tgm4883, thedarkone, thefRont, Therock_, thread, TM1111a, tmwsiy20121, tomimo, toorima, tris, tt884, TTilus, univate, ventz, wagnerrp, Wayhigh, WB0TRA_work, Wicked, Winkie, wylie, xand, xcloud9x, xris, zand, [Peter], _abbenormal, _charly_, |chiz|

Error at /opt/beirdobot/share/beirdobot/web/includes/utils.php, line 120:
htmlentities() [function.htmlentities]: Invalid multibyte sequence in argument


Details:
    datetime:  2010-12-03 07:19:48 (UTC)
    errornum:  2
  error type:  Warning
error string:  htmlentities() [<a href='function.htmlentities'>function.htmlentities</a>]: Invalid multibyte sequence in argument
    filename:  /opt/beirdobot/share/beirdobot/web/includes/utils.php
  error line:  120
Wednesday, April 29th, 2009, 00:12 UTC
[00:12:02] momelod (momelod!n=smelo@bas1-toronto08-1176339939.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #mythtv-users
[00:12:09] momelod: greetings channel
[00:12:15] Scopeuk (Scopeuk!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[00:13:03] momelod: i use the internal player to play avi files. but if i need subs, the fonts are too small on my tiny tv.. how can i increase the font size
[00:13:08] wagnerrp (wagnerrp!n=wagnerrp@NR-FT1-66-42-240-2.fuse.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[00:13:44] momelod: alternatively i can use mplayer but its a pain to switch back and forth..
[00:14:07] momelod: i prefer the internal player because it has the same look/controls as when watching tv
[00:21:38] Feisar (Feisar!n=quassel@cpc2-bedn1-0-0-cust546.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[00:22:48] jroysdon (jroysdon!n=User@jroysdonartoo-2-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net) has quit ("ttfn")
[00:24:25] CoreDump is now known as CoreDump|home
[00:28:08] XChatMav (XChatMav!n=Maverick@194.151.136.138) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[00:34:06] CoreDump|home is now known as CoreDump|afk
[00:41:15] mattmatteh_ is now known as mattmatteh
[00:41:32] JohnP789 (JohnP789!n=john@24-216-114-76.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[00:41:50] kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has quit ()
[00:43:04] JohnP789: I'm having trouble scanning for channels with my HVR-950 ATSC USB tuner. I'm in the US using an antenna. Several channels show "Locked", but then they give a timeout saying "no tables".
[00:43:09] JohnP789: What can I try?
[00:44:07] JohnP789: I've extended the timeouts to 15000ms for tuning and 2000ms (the max) for that other timeout setting.
[00:44:39] _abbenormal (_abbenormal!n=_abbenor@216.109.197.30) has joined #mythtv-users
[01:10:33] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has quit ()
[01:14:11] Dave123-road (Dave123-road!n=dave@cpe-74-69-108-236.rochester.res.rr.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[01:14:25] jpabq (jpabq!n=jpabq@c-69-254-145-214.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[01:14:55] mchou: JohnP789: what are you using to scan?
[01:17:25] JohnP789: MythTV's built-in scanner, and now w_scan with some guidance from its author over on #linuxtv.
[01:17:58] mchou: I'm not familiar with w_scan, and mythtv scan is broken
[01:18:48] mchou: JohnP789: I recommend 'scan' (sometimes called dvbscan or scandvb, depending on distro) fro best results
[01:18:52] mchou: for*
[01:19:41] mchou: it's available from linuxtv.org
[01:19:50] mchou: also are you hooked up to antenna or cable?
[01:23:40] Cougar (Cougar!n=cougar@lost.data.ee) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[01:25:00] grokky (grokky!n=grokky@excalibur.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[01:29:09] cafuego (cafuego!n=cafuego@luv/committee/cafuego) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[01:29:45] Scopeuk (Scopeuk!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[01:30:01] cafuego (cafuego!n=cafuego@luv/committee/cafuego) has joined #mythtv-users
[01:30:11] momelod (momelod!n=smelo@bas1-toronto08-1176339939.dsl.bell.ca) has quit ("buh-bye")
[01:44:16] poodyp_ (poodyp_!n=poodyp@adsl-69-105-109-230.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[01:50:54] tank-man (tank-man!i=1000@174.6.38.217) has joined #mythtv-users
[01:53:06] purserj (purserj!n=purserj@k-sit.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[01:53:27] purserj (purserj!n=purserj@k-sit.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[01:59:35] mattmatteh (mattmatteh!n=matt@d53-64-131-244.nap.wideopenwest.com) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")
[02:01:48] JohnP789_ (JohnP789_!n=john@24-216-114-76.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[02:03:08] JohnP789 (JohnP789!n=john@24-216-114-76.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[02:04:00] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users
[02:07:08] poodyp_ (poodyp_!n=poodyp@adsl-69-105-109-230.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has quit ()
[02:11:40] Goga777 (Goga777!n=Goga777@shpd-92-101-148-68.vologda.ru) has joined #mythtv-users
[02:20:21] sphex (sphex!n=nobody@modemcable185.138-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #mythtv-users
[02:21:45] JohnP789_ (JohnP789_!n=john@24-216-114-76.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has quit ("Leaving")
[02:29:25] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[02:37:42] sphex_ (sphex_!n=nobody@modemcable185.138-56-74.mc.videotron.ca) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[02:39:10] Goga777 (Goga777!n=Goga777@shpd-92-101-148-68.vologda.ru) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[02:44:49] TM1111a (TM1111a!n=Tony@c-24-16-46-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[02:51:07] Gumby` (Gumby`!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users
[02:51:39] wagnerrp_ is now known as wagnerrp
[02:54:22] ** iamlindoro crosses his fingers for Comcast not to screw him on Fringe tonight **
[02:54:58] squidly: iamlindoro: they still find a way
[02:55:07] squidly: they screw me on everything they can
[02:55:25] iamlindoro: All I need is for them not to move the channel (again)
[02:55:51] Dagmar: Well, you might be forced to watch a few minutes of American Idle
[02:56:03] iamlindoro: Padding rule deals with that :)
[02:56:10] iamlindoro: As long as there's something to watch
[02:56:54] k-man (k-man!n=jason@ppp167-253-181.static.internode.on.net) has left #mythtv-users ()
[02:59:39] kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has joined #mythtv-users
[02:59:39] Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc
[02:59:40] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@76-10-180-87.dsl.teksavvy.com) has quit ()
[03:03:26] grokky (grokky!n=grokky@excalibur.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has joined #mythtv-users
[03:04:14] wagnerrp: they only ran about a minute over today, not too bad
[03:04:26] javatexan (javatexan!n=mia@rrcs-71-40-238-241.sw.biz.rr.com) has quit ("Leaving.")
[03:20:42] spoiler (spoiler!n=sutorfr@manz-5f754434.pool.einsundeins.de) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[03:20:47] spoiler (spoiler!n=sutorfr@manz-5f755cbd.pool.einsundeins.de) has joined #mythtv-users
[03:21:10] Wicked (Wicked!n=rewt@unaffiliated/blazed) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[03:24:57] dustybin (dustybin!i=dustybin@thinkdebian.org) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[03:39:40] quadtree (quadtree!n=quadtree@c-76-21-180-10.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has quit (Connection timed out)
[03:42:14] poodyp_ (poodyp_!n=poodyp@adsl-69-105-109-230.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[03:42:48] a-stray-laptop (a-stray-laptop!n=a-stray-@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[03:48:13] keith4_: this.... seems bad: mythbackend[26830]: segfault at 4ac5800c ip b6725ec2 sp b09faf14 error 4 in libc-2.7.so[b66b7000+155000]
[03:48:43] iamlindoro: Only if you're one of those guys who likes the backend up
[03:49:01] keith4_: well... i installed monit to keep it up long ago
[03:49:20] keith4_: and i've even started restarting the backend as part of cron.daily
[03:49:24] keith4_: it seems happier that way
[03:51:06] keith4_: but... it troubles me, somewhat
[03:51:42] iamlindoro: monit shouldn't be necessary, even
[03:52:17] iamlindoro: You're right to be concerned by a crash, although if it's isoled, then no big deal
[03:52:22] iamlindoro: er isolated
[03:52:34] iamlindoro: if it's happening every hour, well then that's bad (tm) :)
[03:52:37] keith4_: well, monit does other things too. like, notifies me when it's acting funky, or when it crashes/reloads
[04:03:32] ** iamlindoro breathes a sigh of relief as Fringe records **
[04:09:08] wagnerrp: new hard drive comes tomorrow... looking forward to 20 hours of rebuilds...
[04:12:30] iamlindoro: I had 60 or so earlier this week, always a little nerve-wracking :)
[04:13:27] wagnerrp: im not too concerned about it
[04:13:37] wagnerrp: ive crashed the system mid-rebuild with no data loss
[04:13:58] wagnerrp: it just takes so long... and the array is so slow to access during the process
[04:15:40] wagnerrp: i dont know why it takes so long
[04:15:55] wagnerrp: rebuilds on my old 300GB array took maybe 2.5 hours
[04:16:03] wagnerrp: now, its ~15
[04:16:25] wagnerrp: plus another 5 or so to initialize the remaining space, and expand the array
[04:25:20] jroysdon (jroysdon!n=User@jroysdonartoo-2-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[04:30:09] aarcane (aarcane!n=aarcane@c-98-238-136-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[04:30:26] aarcane: is it possible to run mythtv without mysqld ?
[04:31:18] iamlindoro: no
[04:31:21] TM1111a: mysqld is the mysql database
[04:31:47] aarcane: I know, but I don't want to have to run mysql just to store a few settings.
[04:31:57] iamlindoro: Alas, you must
[04:32:09] aarcane: :(
[04:32:52] Dagmar: Mm... delicious tears
[04:33:43] TM1111a: look at database schema in the wiki – lots of stuff in there
[04:34:09] Dagmar: Ummm no
[04:34:14] Dagmar: Do not edit the database manually.
[04:34:23] Dagmar: In that way lies destruction and madness.
[04:34:29] iamlindoro: Think he was just commenting about the complexity of the DB
[04:34:41] aarcane: well the reason I ask is every few months I'll update my system, and then mythtv will bitch for hours about not being able to connect to the database, then suddenly just start working.
[04:37:01] TM1111a: that would be annoying... but error goes away and doesn't come back?
[04:39:44] iamlindoro: Why do crazy sex monsters never wait until *after* the sex to kill their victims?
[04:40:10] wagnerrp: didnt the woman in species wait?
[04:40:20] iamlindoro: maybe
[04:40:22] wagnerrp: and 2... and 3... and 4..
[04:52:05] jroysdon (jroysdon!n=User@jroysdonartoo-2-pt.tunnel.tserv3.fmt2.ipv6.he.net) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[04:58:10] Penfold (Penfold!n=mikewh@alysande.altrion.org) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")
[04:58:53] poodyp_ (poodyp_!n=poodyp@adsl-69-105-109-230.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) has quit ()
[05:00:58] aarcane: TM1111a, the problem goes away when I figure out why it's breaking, then comes back later when it breaks again
[05:01:20] tank-man: "just suddenly start working" ... i find that hard to believe
[05:02:02] quigleymd (quigleymd!n=quigley@76.120.208.187) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[05:03:49] aarcane: tank-man, well, it's usually after I make or unmake the same minor changes I've made 5 times over.
[05:04:11] aarcane: anyway, it's working for tonight, so I get to sleep for now.
[05:04:51] aarcane: I hope for either a database-free option or a version that uses berkdb or sqlite or something else local.
[05:05:02] aarcane (aarcane!n=aarcane@c-98-238-136-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit)
[05:06:08] a-stray-laptop (a-stray-laptop!n=a-stray-@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Connection timed out)
[05:12:41] quigleymd (quigleymd!n=quigley@c-76-120-208-187.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[05:17:55] Pooky (Pooky!n=pooky@97-124-102-235.phnx.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[05:18:58] poodyp_ (poodyp_!n=poodyp@cpe-98-148-122-5.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[05:20:04] a-stray-laptop (a-stray-laptop!n=a-stray-@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[05:32:43] spoiler (spoiler!n=sutorfr@manz-5f755cbd.pool.einsundeins.de) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[05:33:01] spoiler (spoiler!n=sutorfr@manz-5f754750.pool.einsundeins.de) has joined #mythtv-users
[05:39:49] iamlindoro: That chick on Fringe tonight was super hot
[05:41:01] kormoc: Got any fan art?
[05:41:33] iamlindoro: screenshot!
[05:41:38] iamlindoro: (thanks, Myth!)
[05:42:05] Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!n=chris@c-76-18-186-75.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has quit ("I am called onward")
[05:42:39] kormoc: Aww crap, IE-8 just went windows-update live
[05:42:47] iamlindoro: http://www.fecitfacta.com/fringe.png
[05:42:57] iamlindoro: Not a great screenshot, actually
[05:42:58] iamlindoro: oh well
[05:43:11] kormoc: solid eyes
[05:43:13] iamlindoro: She was a naughty girl
[05:43:29] kormoc: ooh, so she needed to be spanked? Infact they all needed to be spanked?
[05:43:52] iamlindoro: Disciplinary action was necessary, and received
[05:44:54] oobe (oobe!n=oobe@unaffiliated/oobe) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[05:46:10] iamlindoro: Shame about the drinking your spinal fluid thing
[05:46:28] kormoc: I'd likely say it'd be worth it
[05:46:56] iamlindoro: Unfortunately, as I mentioned earlier, this was a "kill before the sex" sex monster, and not the good kind
[05:47:02] kormoc: ooh...
[05:47:33] kormoc: Still... after a few drinks, I could be convinced :P
[05:47:37] iamlindoro: there's always Kaywinnet
[05:47:50] ** kormoc swoons **
[05:48:09] iamlindoro: http://www.myspace.com/kayleefrye8
[05:50:40] iamlindoro: TMDB is definitely going to need to figure out a way to prevent dupes
[05:50:53] iamlindoro: I think a full 50% of the films added right now are duplicated
[05:51:12] iamlindoro: then there's the people who add video games, web shows, and TV
[05:51:39] kormoc: He should totally start TheDB.org
[05:51:48] iamlindoro: http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/17394
[05:52:05] iamlindoro: http://www.themoviedb.org/movie/17406
[05:52:12] iamlindoro: Not that SMB 3 wasn't a damn solid game
[05:52:52] iamlindoro: TheDB would actually be not-bad, if you picked the genre while adding the title and it referred you to the right site for the rest
[05:55:09] iamlindoro: Heh, Ubuntu mapped all the little shortcut keys on this keyboard properly, that's a nice little touch
[05:58:52] kormoc: "Microsoft is listing IE8 as a critical update to Windows XP"
[05:58:54] kormoc: Yay...
[05:58:58] ** kormoc shoots himself **
[05:59:43] iamlindoro: Heh
[06:00:38] iamlindoro: My solution to this is not to use windows :)
[06:00:51] iamlindoro: though I guess you don't have that luxury in your profession
[06:01:06] kormoc: Heh, yeah, exactly
[06:01:13] kormoc: the whole 70% of the visitors are running IE
[06:07:07] iamlindoro: Mmm, love it when UPS ships a package from Texas to Denver to Illinois to Detroit to California
[06:07:24] iamlindoro: This is why my children will have permanent sunburns
[06:12:02] wagnerrp: her teeth were scary though....
[06:13:11] iamlindoro: Only in monster mode :)
[06:13:21] wagnerrp: yeah, what was with that
[06:13:33] wagnerrp: syfy giving you morphing teeth?
[06:14:12] iamlindoro: Anyway, she's single and monster free now
[06:14:40] wagnerrp: funeral crashing?
[06:15:10] iamlindoro: I could probably find a card for "Sorry you'r husband's dead, but congrats on not being a monster any more, and what are you doing Friday?"
[06:15:15] iamlindoro: er your
[06:17:37] poodyp (poodyp!n=mordac@cpe-98-148-122-5.socal.res.rr.com) has quit ("Leaving.")
[06:27:19] FR^2 (FR^2!i=frr@frquadrat.de) has joined #mythtv-users
[06:28:20] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@203.171.199.64) has joined #mythtv-users
[06:29:12] Wicked (Wicked!n=rewt@unaffiliated/blazed) has joined #Mythtv-users
[06:30:08] KraMer (KraMer!n=mark@adsl-70-240-217-123.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has left #mythtv-users ("Leaving")
[06:30:36] Cougar (Cougar!n=cougar@lost.data.ee) has joined #mythtv-users
[06:31:00] Wicked: hello all. i have a pvr-150 using latest .21 svn....and it seems my picture is not centered. i took a screen shot here http://gallery.roob.us/d/2246-1/mythtv.png ....theres that black bar on the right..i dont ever remember there being a black bar there
[06:36:34] kormoc: look at changing your ivtv capture settings?
[06:46:36] gnome42 (gnome42!n=gnome42@206-248-161-53.dsl.teksavvy.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[06:47:08] Wicked: hmm
[06:48:15] oobe (oobe!n=oobe@unaffiliated/oobe) has joined #mythtv-users
[06:48:29] Wicked: i guess itll have to wait untill tomorrow. gotta hit the hay. thanks anyways kormoc
[06:51:51] Penfold (Penfold!n=mikewh@nat/yahoo/x-257c0f4d35965ed6) has joined #mythtv-users
[07:20:12] clever (clever!n=clever@mctnnbsa28w-142167127048.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[07:21:27] edannenbe (edannenbe!n=edannenb@mail.blooparkstudios.de) has joined #mythtv-users
[07:22:53] ForsGump_ (ForsGump_!n=fabulous@sierra.jamespurl.org) has joined #mythtv-users
[07:23:45] grokky (grokky!n=grokky@excalibur.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[07:25:51] johnb003 (johnb003!n=noone@cpe-76-169-70-232.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (No route to host)
[07:32:18] clever (clever!n=clever@mctnnbsa28w-142167125077.pppoe-dynamic.nb.aliant.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[07:33:48] ForsGump (ForsGump!n=fabulous@sierra.jamespurl.org) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[07:38:35] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@203.171.199.64) has quit ()
[07:42:36] RyeBrye: Wicked: you were watching something called "the Foursome"?
[07:43:19] kormoc: on the golf channel none the less! Kinky!
[07:43:26] messerting (messerting!n=messerti@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has joined #mythtv-users
[07:43:26] XChatMav (XChatMav!n=Maverick@80.60.93.76) has joined #mythtv-users
[07:46:13] iamlindoro: I'd much rather get caught watching a foursome than the golf channel
[07:47:00] kormoc: well, I've heard about pingpong tricks, but golf-balls are an entirely new level
[07:48:41] psipsi_ (psipsi_!n=psipsi@24.227.36.210) has joined #mythtv-users
[07:48:43] RyeBrye: want to see my 9 wood?
[07:50:19] Captain_Murdoch: iamlindoro, you'll be happy to know that I just performed a remote file upload via the FileTransfer class and a writeable RingBuffer. Glue isn't there yet to do it via the C++ RingBuffer code, but I was able to upload a file via the perl bindings. also still needs a bit of work to determine the right directory to put the file in, etc.
[07:50:43] iamlindoro: Captain_Murdoch, Ooh, I've very happy indeed to hear that!!
[07:50:47] iamlindoro: er I'm
[07:50:52] hein1 (hein1!n=heiner@78.49.104.71) has joined #mythtv-users
[07:50:55] iamlindoro: ugh, my typing has collapsed, it's too late at night
[07:50:58] Captain_Murdoch: and most importantly, the md5 sums on my 25 megabyte file match between src and dest. :)
[07:50:59] RyeBrye: Is this for an upcoming botnet?
[07:51:10] kormoc: wooties!
[07:51:25] kormoc: RyeBrye, you weren't to see that mythweb code yet!
[07:52:07] RyeBrye: Damn. talk about dupllicate effort. I was backporting some of the latest botnet features into the latest mythweb – I just haven't had a chance to submit a patch against the fixes branch yet
[07:52:30] eNeRGi (eNeRGi!n=nrgizer@88.195.123.137) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[07:53:35] Captain_Murdoch: you never know, it might make it into someone's repository. :)
[07:53:50] Captain_Murdoch: and with that, /me goes to bed.
[07:53:59] iamlindoro: Captain_Murdoch, I'm hitting the sack, but I'm really glad to hear that, That'll go a long way to making the metadata grabbing SG-friendly
[07:54:09] iamlindoro: nice job
[07:54:22] a-stray-laptop (a-stray-laptop!n=a-stray-@c-71-197-86-231.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[07:54:54] Captain_Murdoch: thx. I had it in my head for a while so I figured I'd take a look at it.
[07:55:34] ** kormoc waves to Captain_Murdoch **
[07:55:59] ** Captain_Murdoch isn't sure whether to wave back or what. **
[07:56:09] ** kormoc shrugs **
[07:56:18] iamlindoro: depends on what he waved at you
[07:56:21] clever: Captain_Murdoch: something i mentioned last week was creating a QFile wrapper that streams it over the network, sounds like your doing something similar
[07:56:34] Captain_Murdoch: clever, it sounds like you've been reading the source in RingBuffer.cpp
[07:56:42] clever: nope
[07:56:50] Captain_Murdoch: and remotefile.cpp, cause that's what they do basically.
[07:57:22] clever: i was just thinking that if you use the api on QFile, you can use it as a drop in replacement for alot of things like themes
[07:57:25] Captain_Murdoch: pass a RingBuffer a local filename or a myth:// URL and you can read and seek in the file. my mod will add write capability.
[07:58:28] gbee: you don't want to make RemoteFile asynchronous while you're at it? :)
[07:58:49] gbee: it's on my list but that's a long list
[07:59:12] kormoc: Huh, my list typically involves people...
[07:59:15] ** kormoc twitches **
[07:59:28] iamlindoro: 1 AM, time for kormoc's tranquilizers
[07:59:40] kormoc: Yeah, likely
[07:59:53] clever: 5am here, i could use one of those:P
[08:00:02] messerting (messerting!n=messerti@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[08:00:18] gbee: basically put the transfer in it's own thread, post back the result to the calling class when done, maybe events for progress too
[08:00:49] clever: a drop in replacement for QFile sounds more usefull to me
[08:01:06] Captain_Murdoch: that's why you don't have commit access. :)
[08:01:10] clever: lol
[08:01:14] iamlindoro: among the many reasons
[08:01:26] iamlindoro: Not the least of which is "being clever"
[08:01:41] kormoc: Clever is bad in programming
[08:01:43] clever: making it QFile based would mean less work to port things like themes over to network streaming+storage groups
[08:01:44] Captain_Murdoch: gbee, yeah, could do a lot of work in that area.
[08:01:49] kormoc: leads to maintenance nightmares
[08:02:26] poodyp_ (poodyp_!n=poodyp@cpe-98-148-122-5.socal.res.rr.com) has quit ()
[08:03:56] clever: kormoc: how do you know how bad my code is?
[08:05:45] Captain_Murdoch: gbee, it probably should involve isolating the filetransfer from the main playback socket so it doesn't block other things as well.
[08:06:46] Captain_Murdoch: anyway, /me needs sleep, my 2.95-year old will be waking me up in a few hours.
[08:06:57] ** kormoc waves **
[08:07:21] ** Captain_Murdoch knows he's up too late when his logwatch emails start flowing in. **
[08:07:33] clever: lol:)
[08:07:34] RyeBrye_ (RyeBrye_!n=RyeBrye@252.249.sfcn.org) has joined #mythtv-users
[08:07:46] Captain_Murdoch: that's the reason I moved my backups to 7AM, so they wouldn't hinder development.
[08:08:04] Captain_Murdoch: really gone this time....
[08:17:13] gbee: Captain_Murdoch: the blocking caused me great problems when I tried to use remotefile for icons in the OSD a year ago, using browse mode would kill playback :)
[08:18:32] gbee: now my concerns are more about keeping the UI fast and responsive by loading images etc as they become available and not waiting for them
[08:18:36] Gumby` (Gumby`!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[08:18:38] psipsi (psipsi!n=psipsi@rrcs-24-227-36-210.se.biz.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[08:19:22] hein1 (hein1!n=heiner@78.49.104.71) has left #mythtv-users ()
[08:21:18] mchou (mchou!n=mchou@unaffiliated/mchou) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[08:21:50] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users
[08:25:01] stuarta (stuarta!n=stuarta@unaffiliated/stuarta) has joined #mythtv-users
[08:25:01] Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stuarta
[08:30:15] stuarta: morning
[08:34:01] FR^2: hi stuarta
[08:37:03] gbee: huh, didn't realise this was -users when talking to Captain_Murdoch earlier
[08:37:12] gbee: morning stuarta
[08:37:49] _mgisbers is now known as mgisbers
[08:41:39] stuarta: gbee: not enough caffeine yet?
[08:43:18] FR^2: he
[08:43:19] FR^2: he
[08:43:21] FR^2: argh
[08:43:23] gbee: heh
[08:45:03] stuarta: speaking of caffeine...
[08:45:07] ** stuarta goes for a cuppa **
[08:45:47] ** FR^2 injects himself and instantly feels better ;) **
[08:46:54] hashbang (hashbang!n=nosuch@cse-ajb.cse.bris.ac.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[08:48:01] Supaplex (Supaplex!n=supaplex@166.70.62.193) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[08:48:12] Supaplex (Supaplex!n=supaplex@166.70.62.193) has joined #mythtv-users
[08:49:13] Pooky_ (Pooky_!n=pooky@97-124-102-235.phnx.qwest.net) has quit (SendQ exceeded)
[08:49:27] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[08:52:11] NightMonkey (NightMonkey!n=NightMon@pdpc/supporter/professional/nightmonkey) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
[08:52:41] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users
[08:54:12] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@203.171.196.39) has joined #mythtv-users
[08:55:11] styelz: does it really prevent skin cancer
[08:56:09] styelz: i think people who drink coffe stay indoors more maybe.
[08:56:15] Feisar (Feisar!n=quassel@cpc2-bedn1-0-0-cust546.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[08:56:21] styelz: anyhoo
[08:58:16] CoreDump|afk is now known as CoreDump|home
[09:04:17] grokky (grokky!n=grokky@ppp118-208-236-7.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[09:11:22] deminished (deminished!n=deminish@77.99.153.113) has quit (Success)
[09:12:20] styelz: i think pot and coffee taste similar
[09:14:26] pheld1 (pheld1!n=heldal@81-31-227-199.net.nc-systems.no) has joined #mythtv-users
[09:15:41] gbee: Ceramic or plastic?
[09:15:52] stuarta: or chocolate, even better
[09:24:18] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@203.171.196.39) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[09:29:03] pheld (pheld!n=heldal@81-31-236-219.net.nc-systems.no) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[09:33:20] c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@211.107-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #mythtv-users
[09:33:32] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[09:37:36] grokky (grokky!n=grokky@ppp118-208-236-7.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")
[09:44:31] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has joined #mythtv-users
[09:52:52] c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@211.107-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[09:55:09] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@ppp118-208-134-50.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[10:04:02] pheld1 (pheld1!n=heldal@81-31-227-199.net.nc-systems.no) has quit ("Leaving.")
[10:07:53] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[10:08:07] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has joined #mythtv-users
[10:12:51] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@86.173.96.198) has joined #mythtv-users
[10:16:21] jamiem (jamiem!n=jm|home@dilbert.jamiem.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[10:18:49] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@86.173.96.198) has quit ()
[10:52:50] pheld (pheld!n=heldal@81-31-227-199.net.nc-systems.no) has joined #mythtv-users
[10:54:51] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[10:57:04] oobe (oobe!n=oobe@unaffiliated/oobe) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
[11:09:41] MavT (MavT!n=Maverick@ip503c5d4c.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:10:50] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:11:11] quadtree (quadtree!n=quadtree@c-76-21-180-10.hsd1.va.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:14:06] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has quit (Client Quit)
[11:20:56] CoreDump|home is now known as CoreDump|afk
[11:26:18] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@ppp118-208-134-50.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) has quit ()
[11:29:37] XChatMav (XChatMav!n=Maverick@80.60.93.76) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[11:30:32] XChatMav (XChatMav!n=Maverick@ip503c5d4c.speed.planet.nl) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:31:15] BerryMarmalade2 (BerryMarmalade2!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:31:36] BerryMarmalade2 (BerryMarmalade2!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has left #mythtv-users ()
[11:31:51] grokky (grokky!n=grokky@ppp118-208-236-7.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:34:13] MavT (MavT!n=Maverick@ip503c5d4c.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[11:34:32] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@ppp118-208-134-50.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:38:10] croppa (croppa!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[11:41:12] croppa (croppa!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:43:00] marko_d (marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:43:14] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[11:43:37] artus35 (artus35!n=mythtv@i577BA552.versanet.de) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:45:40] tipocomico_ (tipocomico_!n=ideiasof@bl8-224-228.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #mythtv-users
[11:46:37] tipocomico (tipocomico!n=ideiasof@bl8-48-137.dsl.telepac.pt) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[12:09:55] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@76-10-180-87.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:11:00] artus35 (artus35!n=mythtv@i577BA552.versanet.de) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[12:12:03] MavT (MavT!n=Maverick@80.60.93.76) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:13:09] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@76-10-180-87.dsl.teksavvy.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[12:13:25] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@76-10-180-87.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:20:01] babozor (babozor!n=babozr@LMontsouris-152-63-1-217.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:21:02] babozor (babozor!n=babozr@LMontsouris-152-63-1-217.w80-12.abo.wanadoo.fr) has left #mythtv-users ()
[12:23:09] grokky (grokky!n=grokky@ppp118-208-236-7.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")
[12:23:42] mccord42 (mccord42!n=clayton@d192-24-109-145.try.wideopenwest.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:23:55] c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@81.240.107.211) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:23:59] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[12:26:18] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:28:26] XChatMav (XChatMav!n=Maverick@ip503c5d4c.speed.planet.nl) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[12:32:14] MavT (MavT!n=Maverick@80.60.93.76) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[12:33:42] gpd (gpd!n=gpd@www.grahamdavies.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[12:36:38] mccord42: Has anyone here ever have issues with resolution on the proprietary nvidia driver? I only can only choose 640x480 or 320x240 when I have the proprietary driver installed but get the proper 1360x768 when I use the opensource driver. but the myth frontend is almost unusably slow with the OS driver. This is on a Dynex 26 inch HD TV using the VGA connection by the way.
[12:36:46] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@76-10-180-87.dsl.teksavvy.com) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
[12:37:23] FR^2: *shrug* I have no issues... Do you have enought graphics mem?
[12:39:49] mccord42: Yes, it was working fine when it was connected to another monitor and running at 1024x768
[12:40:48] Josh_Borke: try telling it to ignore the information sent by the display?
[12:41:03] mccord42: I've tried setting a modeline for 1360x768 in my xorg.conf but it didn't seem to make any difference in what was available in the nvidia setup app
[12:41:47] FR^2: "ignoreedid" or something like that, maybe
[12:42:33] kslater (kslater!n=kslater@209.195.188.38) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:43:38] mccord42: I tried Option "ModeValidation" "NoDFPNativeResolutionCheck" with no luck
[12:45:12] mccord42: I found info about that here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1044581
[12:46:12] BerryMarmalade21 (BerryMarmalade21!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:46:27] BerryMarmalade21 (BerryMarmalade21!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has left #mythtv-users ()
[12:46:53] FR^2:
[12:47:23] FR^2: The IgnoreEDID is only available for the proprietary nvidia driver as far as I know.
[12:49:51] mccord42: I'm not sure. :) I tried a bunch of different things last night but I was kind of tired. I'll give it a try in a minute though.
[12:49:57] FR^2: hehe
[12:50:07] FR^2: sounds familiar ;)
[12:50:49] BerryMarmalade2 (BerryMarmalade2!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users
[12:51:01] BerryMarmalade2 (BerryMarmalade2!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has left #mythtv-users ()
[12:52:21] mccord42: wow, the mythfrontend interface is s..l..o..w.. through VNC under the OS drivers. :)
[12:52:43] FR^2: mccord42: Hmm? Even using tight encoding?
[12:57:20] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[12:57:40] mccord42: it's the OS driver slowly rendering the mythfrontend, then VNC isn't helping. connecting over wifi from my laptop probably isn't helping either. :) I had to actually walk across the living room and pick up the keyboard to exit out of mythfrontend.
[12:58:37] FR^2: Have you checked glx, direct rendering etc.?
[12:58:49] mccord42: no
[12:59:12] mccord42: I just installed the proprietary drive and am rebooting
[12:59:28] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@76-10-180-87.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:09:58] Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!n=jk275@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has quit ("Leaving.")
[13:13:34] heynow (heynow!n=heynow@CPE0013464ad34d-CM0012c921409a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:13:50] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:22:28] univate (univate!n=chris@203-217-39-178.dyn.iinet.net.au) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[13:22:30] javatexan (javatexan!n=mia@129.62.151.57) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:32:27] Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!n=chris@c-76-18-186-75.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:33:15] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[13:33:43] ugliefrog (ugliefrog!n=ugliefro@ip72-198-82-32.ok.ok.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:35:24] davidm2 (davidm2!n=David@nat/ti/x-9cadf4a1ec987c3e) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:35:30] ugliefrog: I turned on my frontend and i didnt have my cable box on when i did now i have a white screen...can hear video even tho it stutters now ..same effect with vlc...
[13:35:53] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:37:25] ugliefrog: how do i fix it
[13:38:06] superdump: hey, i've installed mythtv 0.21 (i assume -fixes) from debian-multimedia and i left the mythtv db password blank at the ncurses prompt
[13:38:13] superdump: it said it would generate a random password
[13:38:15] univate (univate!n=chris@203-214-101-191.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:38:25] superdump: now, i guess i need to know what that password is
[13:38:46] superdump: what can i do to either change the password or find out what the password is?
[13:39:03] tmwsiy20121: on mythbuntu its places in /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt or something similar
[13:41:10] superdump: yes, that text file is there, but that's the mythtv configuration side
[13:41:20] superdump: i'm not sure what debian package was being configured to create the database
[13:41:27] tmwsiy20121: umm
[13:41:32] tmwsiy20121: that is what I am trying to say
[13:41:37] tmwsiy20121: that infomation is written in the file
[13:42:35] superdump: hmm, but mythtv-setup wouldn't connect to the database with the usual mythtv/mythtv user pass
[13:42:42] superdump: so maybe mythtv-setup overwrote it
[13:42:50] marko_d: seems that i can't stop a recording
[13:44:13] marko_d: it is pink, i can't watch tv and when i click stop recording it doesn't work
[13:46:45] c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@81.240.107.211) has quit ("Ex-Chat")
[13:47:41] c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@211.107-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:48:27] notyjoey (notyjoey!n=joe@gateway2.fasti.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[13:50:05] marko_d: also the room i add in tv settings > general > seconds before & seconds end doesn't show in scheuldes time?
[13:50:05] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[13:52:54] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:52:55] ugliefrog (ugliefrog!n=ugliefro@ip72-198-82-32.ok.ok.cox.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[13:53:37] marko_d (marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[13:55:13] gagbro: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,33333,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0000000025555222222222222 22222222222222222222222222222222222223233333333333023
[13:55:33] laga: gagbro: spider on your keyboard?
[13:55:40] stoth (stoth!n=stoth@ool-45721e5a.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:55:52] BerryMarmalade2 (BerryMarmalade2!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users
[13:55:58] JEDIDIAH__ (JEDIDIAH__!n=jedi@cpe-72-190-20-124.tx.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
[13:55:59] _marko_d: anyone readed the last ting i said
[13:56:06] _marko_d: also the room i add in tv settings > general > seconds before & seconds end doesn't show in scheuldes time?
[13:56:51] BerryMarmalade2 (BerryMarmalade2!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has left #mythtv-users ()
[13:59:30] Josh_Borke (Josh_Borke!n=jk275@WoWUIDev/WoWInterface/LegoBlock/joshborke) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:01:27] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[14:01:55] linagee: i don't get it
[14:02:28] linagee: how does fox not expect me to hate every single person on american idol when they do stupid things like extend their show 3+ minutes past the hour and cut off the end to fringe???
[14:02:59] tmwsiy20121: then stop watching  :)
[14:03:12] tmwsiy20121: its not worth getting worked up about
[14:03:30] tmwsiy20121: global warming
[14:03:37] tmwsiy20121: now there is somethign to get worked up about
[14:04:10] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:04:37] linagee: tmwsiy20121: hehehe.
[14:10:47] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[14:11:26] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:11:27] olejl (olejl!n=olejl@92.99.21.204) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:11:40] eNeRGi_ (eNeRGi_!n=nrgizer@dsl-hkibrasgw2-ff7bc300-137.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:15:08] marko_d (marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:16:50] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[14:25:15] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[14:28:19] BerryMarmalade21 (BerryMarmalade21!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:28:32] BerryMarmalade21 (BerryMarmalade21!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has left #mythtv-users ()
[14:29:11] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:29:11] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[14:40:37] mccord42: FR^2: I was able to get the resolution correct on my HDTV. but I had to use the nvidia version 96 driver. The 173 driver would not read the EDID info correctly and I couldn't get it to use the modeline I set manually in the xorg.conf
[14:41:05] FR^2: hmm
[14:41:32] FR^2: erm, wait a minute – what graphics card are we talking about again?
[14:41:43] FR^2: I'm using 180.44 atm
[14:41:52] mccord42: nVidia FX5200
[14:41:58] mccord42: kind of old
[14:43:02] FR^2: Ah, then you have to stick to the old ones, there's some "break" in the nvidia drivers backward compatibility. But right now I don't know at which version that was...
[14:43:27] mccord42: I don't thing 180 supports that card. I'm using mythbuntu and 173 is the latest it shows in the hardware driver install section. but it doesn't seem to support my monitor/TV.
[14:43:44] mccord42: 96 is working, so I'll stick with it. :)
[14:44:41] FR^2: 96.43.07 <-- indeed, that was the last version I used with my geforce3
[14:45:34] mccord42: now I just have to figure out this transcoding stuff and I'll have the perfect replacement for my MCE2005 box.
[14:47:04] mccord42: well, transcoding and getting my ATI remote wonder to work.
[14:50:10] lyricnz is now known as lyricnzzzzzzzzzz
[14:53:13] stuarta (stuarta!n=stuarta@unaffiliated/stuarta) has left #mythtv-users ("wibble")
[14:54:58] FR^2 (FR^2!i=frr@frquadrat.de) has quit ("Connection reset by peer")
[15:00:29] revilootneg (revilootneg!n=oliver@89.198.66.140) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:05:44] KraMer (KraMer!n=mark@adsl-70-240-217-123.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:06:10] jm|home (jm|home!n=jm|home@dilbert.jamiem.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:09:47] ugliefrog (ugliefrog!n=ugliefro@72.198.82.32) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:12:35] RyeBrye_ (RyeBrye_!n=RyeBrye@252.249.sfcn.org) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[15:13:34] ugliefrog: i have black video screen now...I had my cable box off when i started mythtv....It was set to svideo so there wasnt a signal but as soon as i turned on the cable box i get sound but no picture..it was white now its black..
[15:13:44] ugliefrog: is there a fix
[15:18:35] jm|home (jm|home!n=jm|home@dilbert.jamiem.com) has quit ("Leaving")
[15:25:02] ogreinside (ogreinside!n=vvaldez@cpe-66-68-174-102.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:26:09] chainsawf (chainsawf!n=chainsaw@121-73-114-254.cable.telstraclear.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:29:47] jpabq (jpabq!n=jpabq@c-69-254-145-214.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) has quit ()
[15:29:59] univate (univate!n=chris@203-214-101-191.dyn.iinet.net.au) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[15:32:11] croppa_ (croppa_!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:33:38] ugliefrog (ugliefrog!n=ugliefro@72.198.82.32) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[15:37:16] gnome42 (gnome42!n=gnome42@206-248-161-53.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:40:08] chainsawbike (chainsawbike!n=chainsaw@121-73-114-254.cable.telstraclear.net) has quit (Connection refused)
[15:40:28] GreyFoxx: Sweet, using myth:// in the coverfile field in the videometadata table works to loadcoverfiles from an SG without having to change anything else...... this will make my life a little easier as I automate screenshots/covers for all of my videos that currently don't have any
[15:42:18] wagnerrp: linagee: just add in some buffer space for myth
[15:42:49] wagnerrp: expect they will always run over, because karaoke is too low to end at scheduled times
[15:42:55] rooaus (rooaus!n=cameron@ppp118-208-204-163.lns10.mel6.internode.on.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[15:42:59] wagnerrp: errr... s/low/important/
[15:43:33] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@76-10-180-87.dsl.teksavvy.com) has quit ()
[15:44:17] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx: yeah, I had suggested that we just use the URLs in the filename field and avoid the IsHostSet() stuff entirely, which would allow the images to live somewhere different from the movie
[15:45:37] croppa (croppa!n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au) has quit (Success)
[15:47:37] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx: I breaks the convention found everywhere else, though, so it might be cleaner to have host fields paired with each filename
[15:47:39] iamlindoro: er It
[15:47:57] Shadow__X: i like things being clean...
[15:48:11] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
[15:48:28] iamlindoro: Shadow__X: No patches = no vote!
[15:48:47] meshe: haha
[15:48:48] Shadow__X: FINE!
[15:48:49] GreyFoxx: I'm not 100% sure on what you are referring to? In mythvideo there is now a videofile+host pair.
[15:49:05] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx: Referring to mythvideo
[15:49:10] wagnerrp: iamlindoro: careful there, he may send you a bicycle repair kit
[15:49:19] GreyFoxx: and currently my covers (which I meant when I said screenshots) live in adifferent locatioin than the videos
[15:49:32] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx: so there should be a coverfile + coverhost, fanart + fanhost, etc.
[15:49:36] GreyFoxx: Iwas just thinking of defining a VideoCovers SG and storing them there
[15:49:41] iamlindoro: Allowing them to live on disparate hosts
[15:49:46] GreyFoxx: Ahh yeah
[15:50:07] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx: The covers, fanart, banners, and screenshots already have SGs turned on, go check :)
[15:50:37] iamlindoro: It's just that the code is currently keyed to them all living on the same host as the video
[15:50:45] Faithful (Faithful!n=Faithful@ns.linuxterminal.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:51:12] iamlindoro: The modular approach would be to give each a hostname. Once My current mythvideo stuff gets committed I'll likely add that
[15:51:16] GreyFoxx: So the fanart, banners and so on't don't have there own specific SG's then ?
[15:51:26] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx: They have their own SGs
[15:51:33] GreyFoxx: ok
[15:51:36] jpabq (jpabq!n=jpabq@72.244.78.11) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:51:40] gbee: why do we need to store the host? Surely that information should be stored in the storage group table?
[15:52:39] wagnerrp: well do you want to scrape the SGs on one host? or do you want to scrape all SGs
[15:52:42] GreyFoxx: storing the host lets you skip the "search" if the SG exists on multiple machines. Though we could enforce a single host for each
[15:53:15] iamlindoro: wagnerrp: You're not scraping anything
[15:54:20] gbee: this is where I'd rather number each directory in a SG and use that instead for caching the last known location
[15:54:35] gbee: but carry on, I've got my answer ;)
[15:54:58] wagnerrp: wrong word, i meant 'search for the file on'
[15:55:31] iamlindoro: wagnerrp: The Storage Group code as is doesn't allow for it to hunt all hosts
[15:55:44] GreyFoxx: For some reason I thought it did
[15:55:50] iamlindoro: wagnerrp: This is why you can't move a file to the same storage group on a different host
[15:55:51] GreyFoxx: but it's been a bit since I looked at that
[15:56:09] ugliefrog (ugliefrog!n=ugliefro@ip72-198-82-32.ok.ok.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:56:30] iamlindoro: Move a recording to the same rec group on a new host, it will break. Move it to another SG dir on the same host, it will work
[15:56:35] ugliefrog: is there away to refresh the drivers for my dvb card
[15:56:43] GreyFoxx: gbee: We should be able to return some sort of "sg indexid" for the directory on the sh it was actually found in
[15:57:21] iamlindoro: But I agree, it would be much nicer to be able to pass a myth:// URL with SG name only and have it hunt all the hosts
[15:57:28] iamlindoro: would certainly simplify a bajillion things
[15:57:41] iamlindoro: And obviate the need for a hostname in videometadata
[15:57:47] rooaus (rooaus!n=cameron@118.208.239.175) has joined #mythtv-users
[15:57:49] GreyFoxx: So I've been thinking of the "let the backend grab the remotecover and store in SGx" .... that shouldn't been too hard
[15:58:05] GreyFoxx: and means the fe wouldn't have to write to the SG
[15:58:29] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx: Heh, Captain_Murdoch was saying last night that he had streaming into an SG from a frontend only working :)
[15:58:37] GreyFoxx: haha ok
[15:58:42] iamlindoro: But yes, backend grabbing code is better, because I can hook the grabber into the PBB
[15:58:49] GreyFoxx: yeah
[15:59:02] gbee: although Captain_Murdoch already has that working, so it's there for things like importing music/photos/videos from a frontend connected media to the backend storage group
[15:59:07] GreyFoxx: and automatic backend jobs pulling in/updating covers and meta info
[15:59:23] gbee: ripping DVDs etc
[15:59:33] iamlindoro: yeah, both definitely have their place
[15:59:53] GreyFoxx: Mythvideo should stop being a pluggin and move into the main app and we can assume it's presence
[16:00:31] GreyFoxx: imho so should mythmusic
[16:00:44] hashbang (hashbang!n=nosuch@cse-ajb.cse.bris.ac.uk) has quit ("Client exiting")
[16:00:51] gbee: agreed
[16:01:20] GreyFoxx: then the backend can start handling all kind of background metajobs without the FE running or being involved
[16:02:49] iamlindoro: GreyFoxx: If you *do* do it, It would be nice to see it be modular about adding grabbers per-type, like the extensions in MythVideo
[16:03:52] iamlindoro: ie I define type "Television" for my TV grabber, and tick off the boxes for its capabilities (Can grab banners/can grab fanart/can grab data/can search by title-subtitle) and enter all the command lines
[16:04:37] iamlindoro: See my patch for Season/Episode/Subtitle, the TVDB grabber has additional capabilities beyond the movie grabber that it uses, namely search by title/subtitle, banner grab, and search by Season/Episode
[16:05:49] sid3windr (sid3windr!i=luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[16:07:52] sid3windr (sid3windr!i=luser@bastard-operator.from-hell.be) has joined #mythtv-users
[16:10:30] Led-Hed (Led-Hed!n=LedHed@75.151.70.115) has joined #mythtv-users
[16:11:21] edannenbe (edannenbe!n=edannenb@mail.blooparkstudios.de) has quit ("Ex-Chat")
[16:13:39] citybird (citybird!n=citybird@84-75-136-22.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined #mythtv-users
[16:15:56] linagee: wagnerrp: american dumb idol is important? lol
[16:20:27] ugliefrog: is there a command to reset DVB card
[16:20:52] wagnerrp: weee! new parts
[16:23:01] wagnerrp: apparently my graphics card is... 'heart touching'
[16:23:04] iamlindoro: Asus!
[16:23:10] iamlindoro: Is it also "Rock Solid?"
[16:23:16] wagnerrp: indeed!
[16:23:30] citybird: just installed and i am trying to get live tv to appear
[16:23:36] iamlindoro: Must make more sense in the original Klingon
[16:23:41] citybird: using a pvr 500
[16:23:45] citybird: card
[16:24:07] wagnerrp: and the usual questions...
[16:24:15] wagnerrp: did you set up the card fully in mythtv setup
[16:24:25] wagnerrp: did you scan for channels, or otherwise populate it with SD data
[16:24:32] ugliefrog: is there a terminal command to reset DVB
[16:24:37] wagnerrp: can you 'cat' the dev nodes, and get a valid mpeg file
[16:24:48] citybird: is there a terminal command to run mythtv setup again?
[16:24:50] wagnerrp: does mythbackend have write permissions to your file storage directory
[16:25:02] wagnerrp: does mythfrontend have read permissions
[16:25:04] citybird: yea that part is working
[16:25:14] citybird: it's a default mythbuntu setup
[16:25:26] citybird: i just have to configure the card i think
[16:25:32] iamlindoro: ugliefrog: Your question doesn't make any sense, what do you mean reset DVB?
[16:25:50] meshe: citybird: mythtv-setup
[16:26:00] meshe: or launch it trhough the mythbuntu control center
[16:26:02] wagnerrp: the only reason you would ever have to 'reset' dvb would be if you had a faulty card, or faulty drivers
[16:26:19] iamlindoro: Indeed, you can unload and reload the drivers
[16:26:34] iamlindoro: you can reboot and reset the registers
[16:26:43] ugliefrog: iamlindro: Well dangit i got the terminology from the dbd-utils web site......Is there a way to refresh the drivers..is that better
[16:26:44] iamlindoro: but there's no "reset DVB"
[16:27:03] iamlindoro: rmmod yourdvbcardsmodule
[16:27:08] iamlindoro: modprobe yourdvbcardsmodule
[16:28:08] citybird: ok. the channel freq table for cablecom switzerland would be what?
[16:28:41] iamlindoro: Europe-west, presumably
[16:32:52] meshe: on install mythbuntu *asks* you if you would like to run mythtv-setup, it should probably be manditory
[16:33:35] iamlindoro: If you want to restore a DB you don't want mythtv-setup to run
[16:34:44] iamlindoro: at least, presuming you are dumping it and restoring it per the manual
[16:35:37] ugliefrog (ugliefrog!n=ugliefro@ip72-198-82-32.ok.ok.cox.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[16:36:16] meshe: good point
[16:36:43] jarle (jarle!n=jarle@70.84-234-133.customer.lyse.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[16:37:50] Penfold (Penfold!n=mikewh@nat/yahoo/x-257c0f4d35965ed6) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[16:37:54] iamlindoro: !trout QString I only want a part of you
[16:37:54] ** MythLogBot slaps QString with a I only want a part of you trout on behalf of iamlindoro... **
[16:38:29] citybird: ok. when it asks you to run mythfilldatabase --manual should i alt tab to a command line window and run it now?
[16:39:06] meshe: it will do it for you
[16:39:21] kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@unaffiliated/kormoc) has quit ()
[16:39:22] meshe: er
[16:39:25] meshe: maybe not
[16:39:39] meshe: ignore me and go ahead with what you said :)
[16:41:55] citybird: perhaps i should give it a name
[16:42:08] iamlindoro: Oswaldo
[16:43:10] citybird: it grabs a bunch of names but where do i assign the numbers
[16:43:21] deminished (deminished!n=deminish@77-99-153-113.cable.ubr05.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[16:46:32] univate (univate!n=chris@203-214-101-191.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users
[16:47:11] iamlindoro: citybird: None of us is looking at your screen, we have no idea what you are looking at, you need to be *much* more specific
[16:47:35] citybird: iamlindoro: sorry just typing out loud
[16:47:36] iamlindoro: "perhaps i should give it a name" and "it grabs a bunch of names" make no sense out of context
[16:47:43] iamlindoro: In that case, please don't
[16:47:46] citybird: hehe
[16:48:28] citybird: when i tell it to grab the xml data i have to switch to a command line window and accept all off the channels
[16:49:18] citybird: there it does not assign numbers and tells me to run that filldatabase --manual command
[16:50:07] citybird: now i told it to fetch channels from listing source and it says it will take a long time.
[16:50:20] citybird: ill bbiab, going for a snack.
[16:51:44] iamlindoro: I scratched my bum
[16:51:55] iamlindoro: I breathed some air and made it into carbon dioxide
[16:52:00] iamlindoro: now I potty
[16:52:04] iamlindoro: Hey, this *is* fun!
[16:52:22] wagnerrp: now youre twittering!
[16:53:45] iamlindoro: So this is how the cool kids do it
[16:55:53] andreax (andreax!n=andreaz@p57B94D3E.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[16:56:07] ** RyeBrye ponders writing a script that you can use to have your mythbackend start twittering, so that his mythtv would suddenly become cool. **
[16:56:48] RyeBrye: I would give it is own account, and I bet it would get a lot of followers
[16:56:55] RyeBrye: "Autoexpiring Sesame Street."
[16:57:11] wagnerrp: guess i should go downstairs and pop in the hard drive
[16:57:22] RyeBrye: is that a euphamism?
[16:57:28] iamlindoro: RyeBrye: http://twitter.com/iamlindoroMyth
[16:57:37] RyeBrye: well damn
[16:57:39] wagnerrp: yeah, for poping in a new hard drive
[16:57:54] wagnerrp: of course if i time out... everything has gone horribly wrong
[16:58:03] RyeBrye: I'm totally following that
[16:58:05] RyeBrye: I'm going to retweet it
[16:58:06] pisani (pisani!n=pisani@CPE-72-135-219-203.wi.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
[16:58:39] iamlindoro: RyeBrye: Community oriented SOB that I am, I even did: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Twitter_recording_status
[16:58:49] KaZeR (KaZeR!n=kazer@181.43.195-77.rev.gaoland.net) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[16:59:24] mchou (mchou!n=mchou@unaffiliated/mchou) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:00:28] RyeBrye: What woudl actually be cool woudl be to be able to send it a tweet like "record Daily Show tonight at 8" and have it schedule a recording (obviously the complexity of getting it to work properly wouldn't really be worth it – but it'd be funny)
[17:00:49] RyeBrye: How come you aren't even following your own mythbackend?
[17:00:51] iamlindoro: What's wrong with using the right tool for the right job, ie MythWeb?
[17:00:58] iamlindoro: RyeBrye: Because I think twitter is dumb
[17:01:20] iamlindoro: I wrote the script because I was annoyed by articles gushing over the SageTV equivalent pretending it was a big deal
[17:02:17] iamlindoro: Well, twitter isn't *dumb*, it's just sort of jumped the shark
[17:02:41] meshe: wow iamlindoro, 54000 channels, nice cable provider you have there ;)
[17:03:04] toorima (toorima!n=bq@ip68-7-79-241.sd.sd.cox.net) has quit ("Changing server")
[17:03:09] iamlindoro: meshe: heh
[17:03:13] sphery: and only 53952 are shopping channels
[17:03:26] ** citybird is numbering his channels now **
[17:03:36] ** iamlindoro *may* have passed the wrong user job variable to the script :) **
[17:03:59] sphery: that's what they call an "easter egg"
[17:04:09] sphery: it makes the script more fun
[17:04:44] iamlindoro: A sensible person would use CHANNAME
[17:04:55] iamlindoro: but nobody ever accused me of being sensible
[17:05:20] citybird: it's my first time
[17:05:23] citybird: go easy
[17:05:40] iamlindoro: citybird: We're not talking to/about you
[17:06:00] RyeBrye: It's actually kind of cool. I might use it on mine just for the heck of it.
[17:06:21] wagnerrp: RyeBrye: why not just subscribe to the RSS feed directly
[17:06:24] RyeBrye: How do some twitter clients change the "from the web" to say the name of their twitter client is what I'm wondering
[17:06:40] RyeBrye: wagnerrp: well then I can't get SMS messsages whenever his mythtv finishes recording something
[17:07:07] meshe: RyeBrye: then just send your sms address an email instead of twitter
[17:07:36] RyeBrye: but I'm interested in iamlindoros mythtv – not my own. ;)
[17:08:10] meshe: sweet, iamlindoro set up lots of late night recordings so his SMS's go off :)
[17:08:30] iamlindoro: Heh, I think I only set up that job for a few recording rules
[17:08:40] mccord42 (mccord42!n=clayton@d192-24-109-145.try.wideopenwest.com) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[17:08:55] RyeBrye: My project at work is a realtime notification system for emergency room doctors. I could tie it into my backend for that and have it call me on the phone, send me a page, send me an SMS, and send me an email every time the backend moves – and it would keep bugging me until I acknowledged it
[17:09:39] toorima (toorima!n=bq@ip68-7-79-241.sd.sd.cox.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:09:58] dustybin (dustybin!n=dustybin@thinkdebian.org) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:10:06] iamlindoro: There, turned it on for all recordings
[17:10:12] meshe: i built a todo list system like that, depending on the priority of the item it would popup an alert, sms, then phone over voip until you acknowkledged it
[17:10:16] ** RyeBrye gets a little giddy **
[17:12:31] Cardoe (Cardoe!n=Cardoe@gentoo/developer/Cardoe) has quit ("Leaving")
[17:15:11] heynow (heynow!n=heynow@CPE0013464ad34d-CM0012c921409a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit ()
[17:16:22] schlazor (schlazor!n=david@72.21.255.88) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:17:12] dr_mason (dr_mason!n=who@dslb-084-058-008-019.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:20:30] kormoc (kormoc!n=kormoc@isaid.donotdelete.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:20:37] Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v kormoc
[17:21:15] tmwsiy20121: hi guys... would the following work as a front end for HD playback and somewhat reasonable comm tagging?
[17:21:15] tmwsiy20121: Asus M2N-SLI mobo, AMD Athlon 64 4800+ dual core @ 2.5 GHz, 1gb dual channel DDR2 800MHz, an xfx 8600 gt 256 mb graphics card
[17:21:40] Dagmar: You should really read more of hte wiki
[17:21:51] wagnerrp: that will fail horribly
[17:21:55] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:22:01] Dagmar: It's not 3D performance you need for this, it's a different part of the card entirely.
[17:22:16] Dagmar: So, one of the _newer_ 8400's will do you better than an 8600.
[17:22:28] tmwsiy20121: ok forget the video card than
[17:22:36] Dagmar: There's a 9400 or 9500 (can't remember which) which is marginally better for VDPAU
[17:22:36] wagnerrp: thats not the case anymore
[17:22:54] Dagmar: wagnerrp: You remember which models?
[17:23:03] wagnerrp: they added the VC1 entropy decoding into the driver, for the cards that dont have the hardware for it
[17:23:04] Dagmar: No one's bothered to add to the nvidia card matrix thing it seems
[17:23:10] Dagmar: what?
[17:23:11] RyeBrye: iamlindoro: some unresovled var names in that script on twitter. but let me know how Good Eats is
[17:23:17] Dagmar: For how many models is that working now?
[17:23:21] wagnerrp: all
[17:23:26] wagnerrp: ever since 180.35
[17:23:27] Dagmar: You're sh*tting me
[17:23:36] Dagmar: So would that work with say, the 7050PV?
[17:23:56] wagnerrp: anything that supports any form of VDPAU will now do VC1
[17:24:41] Dagmar: Okay, so not the 7050pv then
[17:24:42] Dagmar: Ah well
[17:25:05] wagnerrp: i presume they added a bit of CUDA to do the decode
[17:25:10] Dagmar: tmwsiy20121: You're fine on RAM but you might want to consider one of the 4850e's or basically a _low power consumption_ CPU
[17:25:14] wagnerrp: and the 7-series dont support that either
[17:25:14] Dagmar: Power == heat
[17:25:22] Dagmar: heat requires cooling, cooling == noise
[17:25:32] Dagmar: wagnerrp: I know they don't support it
[17:25:48] Dagmar: Kinda pisses me off, cause it looked like it was going to when they came out with that chipset
[17:26:09] wagnerrp: any athlon, maybe 1.6GHz or better is good enough for broadcast HD
[17:26:17] wagnerrp: same with a core2
[17:26:27] wagnerrp: P4s, you need a lot higher clock
[17:26:38] Dagmar: tmwsiy20121: Since you're not trying to record from a framegrabber card, and the video card will be doing the heavy lifting of playback, you can definitely look into the low thermal profile CPUs like the 4850e
[17:27:18] wagnerrp: as for commflagging, youve got that whole extra core for that, so why would you even worry?
[17:27:45] Dagmar: It would be hard to buy a new x86 CPU without enough power for the rest of what Myth does
[17:28:37] iamlindoro: RyeBrye: I know that, was goofing around with it
[17:29:52] RyeBrye: yeah, I bought a C2Q machine for HD playback and recording about a month or two before VDPAU came out. Now it just kind of churns away and comflags things at a ridiculous rate
[17:30:03] RyeBrye: (I think I saw 600 or 700 fps on a SD show the other day)
[17:30:23] wagnerrp: well a C2D would do that just as fast
[17:30:33] RyeBrye: Yeah, but not 4 SD shows at the same time! :)
[17:30:35] bulle: wagnerrp: nvidia pure hd have always done some of the picture stuff in the actual gpu part, as software, so i guess its no big leap to add the vc1 entropy coding there aswell
[17:31:16] wagnerrp: bulle: yeah, i know the deint and post processing stuff is done on the GPU
[17:31:26] bulle: wagnerrp: aye
[17:31:33] meshe: the difference between P4 and 6xxx series C2D's is mindblowing
[17:32:00] bulle: just buy a cheap c2d imho
[17:32:22] wagnerrp: im just amazed how poor performing the P4 really is
[17:32:38] gbee: or a 4850e
[17:32:48] wagnerrp: my sister's old Ath 1.4 was managing a 1080i broadcast last night
[17:32:54] kormoc: I'm just amazed at how poor performing the 8086 really is
[17:33:09] wagnerrp: by a spare 1.8P4 i have laying around doesnt even come close
[17:33:34] meshe: my husband went from a 2.66Ghz P4 to a 3Ghz C2D and it at least tripled encoding rates on ripping DVDs
[17:33:37] RyeBrye: Well, the P4 covers a really wide range of chips. I have a later P4 that does pretty well
[17:33:45] RyeBrye: (for playback with vdpau)
[17:33:55] wagnerrp: that doesnt count
[17:34:01] RyeBrye: It's a 2 Ghz with hyperthreading I think
[17:34:01] BerryMarmalade2 (BerryMarmalade2!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:34:03] gbee: wagnerrp: doesn't suprise me, I had a 1.6Ghz Athlon that had no problems with 1080i mpeg2
[17:34:08] kormoc: meshe, to be fair, 64 bit does help with encoding
[17:34:17] BerryMarmalade2 (BerryMarmalade2!n=fabio@host241-190-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has left #mythtv-users ()
[17:34:20] meshe: he's running it in 32bit
[17:35:16] wagnerrp: the stuff we run at work, we went from 3Ghz P4s to 2.4GHz C2Ds, and quadrupled the work output
[17:36:34] meshe: yeah, i'm quite impressed with the C2D and dissapointed with the P4
[17:37:53] kormoc: This is kinda sureal
[17:39:00] Dagmar: eh?
[17:39:03] meshe: what's sureaL?
[17:39:21] andreax1 (andreax1!n=andreaz@p57B9501B.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:39:21] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[17:39:21] Dagmar: I am, but that's beside the point.
[17:40:26] gbee: P4s kinda remind me of the Voodoo 3, ie. taking an old design and stretching it to it's limits, increasing heat and power requirements for limited gain
[17:40:36] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has quit ()
[17:40:41] kormoc: the whole being disappointed with performance of a old model when compared to a new one
[17:40:50] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:41:26] kormoc: gbee, you do know that the core/core2's are p3 based? :)
[17:42:01] wagnerrp: kormoc: i was comparing it to an lower clocked AthXP that was purchased before the P4
[17:43:03] Pooky (Pooky!n=pooky@97-124-102-235.phnx.qwest.net) has quit (Connection timed out)
[17:44:33] gbee: kormoc: heh, well Intel aren't always innovators, splicing a couple of p3 cores together in a single package held together with sticky tape is about what I'd expect
[17:48:02] citybird: when i try to leave setup i get card1 type tuner1 is set to start on channel please add which does not exit. where do i set this?
[17:48:27] tmwsiy20121: dagmar: thanks I just saw someone trying to get rid of all that with a 500W PS and was wondering if it could work...
[17:48:29] wagnerrp: have you done a channel scan?
[17:48:46] spoiler (spoiler!n=sutorfr@manz-5f754750.pool.einsundeins.de) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[17:48:57] marko_d (marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[17:49:04] tmwsiy20121: yes
[17:49:10] tmwsiy20121: lol
[17:49:16] marko_d (marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:50:26] citybird: wagnerrp: doing the channel scan now
[17:50:37] citybird: signal str goes from 99 to 0 all the time
[17:51:26] pisani (pisani!n=pisani@CPE-72-135-219-203.wi.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:51:39] Dagmar: tmwsiy20121: I think you'll find that if you Google "power supply calculator" most of them willl tell you that a 500W power supply is OVERKILL
[17:51:57] Dagmar: ...which would be back to the excess power == heat == bad thing again
[17:52:06] heynow (heynow!n=heynow@CPE0013f7fae034-CM0013f7fae030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[17:52:14] tmwsiy20121: umm maybe I was not clear.... someone had all that stuff that they wanted to get rid of on the cheap
[17:52:36] Dagmar: If they're talking ten bucks, then great
[17:52:42] tmwsiy20121: I need to build a frontend that will play HD
[17:53:07] Dagmar: Yeah, and it actually doesn't take massive piles of CPU power
[17:53:14] Dagmar: Well, actually it *does* but that's the thick-skulled way to go about it
[17:53:38] Dagmar: You pretty much need MOAR MEGAHURTS for that, and we're talking a 2.4–2.6Ghz *core* speed
[17:53:44] Dagmar: ...at _minimum_.
[17:53:56] Dagmar: ...which is where VDPAU and offloading the word of decoding HD to the video card comes in
[17:54:34] tmwsiy20121: do they make low profile cards that will do that?
[17:54:44] tmwsiy20121: that I could use with my dual core atom ;)
[17:54:46] tmwsiy20121: j/k
[17:55:11] wagnerrp: if you use a VDPAU card, theres no reason why you couldnt use an atom
[17:55:14] citybird: I have channel numbers like SE6 detected by the scan but there is no SE on the cable providers list
[17:55:20] tmwsiy20121: hmm
[17:55:24] wagnerrp: you would have to get a PCI card though
[17:55:29] tmwsiy20121: yep
[17:55:31] citybird: there is a K on the providers list but no SE
[17:56:09] citybird: and no e
[17:56:10] citybird: E
[17:56:12] andreax (andreax!n=andreaz@p57B94D3E.dip.t-dialin.net) has quit (Success)
[17:56:20] dr_mason (dr_mason!n=who@dslb-084-058-008-019.pools.arcor-ip.net) has quit ()
[17:57:50] GreyFoxx: That's why I like the idea of rthe ions. nvidia vdpau gpu with an atoms body :)
[17:58:49] Dagmar: Well, an Atom would make transcoding sloooow
[17:58:55] Dagmar: ...but beyond that it would probably be fine.
[17:59:10] Dagmar: Okay, so the mysqld would be slowish too but that's not as much of a deal
[17:59:42] wagnerrp: Dagmar: assuming youre running a backend or MTD on it
[18:00:07] wagnerrp: do the pre-built Atom systems even have optical drives?
[18:00:10] XLV (XLV!n=XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:01:24] tmwsiy20121: not sure most of the mini-itx cases have low-profile optical bays (the one I just built did)
[18:01:39] tmwsiy20121: $40 winsys
[18:02:05] kormoc: ASRock ION 330 has a dual core atom 330 + integrated dvd drive
[18:04:44] marko_d: adjusting the volume in mythtv affects my whole system, will it affect the recording too or?
[18:05:08] wagnerrp: only if you have a framegrabber
[18:05:40] marko_d: no
[18:06:56] marko_d: also i have set to record a show from program guide in 20:15, and set seconds before start of show to 600 seconds, here is 20:6 now, but i didn't get the recording popup
[18:07:29] kormoc: there's two padding types, one optional and one not
[18:07:55] marko_d: i have set it from the general section in tv settings
[18:08:19] kormoc: that's optional, if it's not doing anything else, it'll try to record upto that much before hand
[18:08:29] kormoc: watching live-tv trumps that optional preroll
[18:09:06] marko_d: where do i enforce it?
[18:09:17] kormoc: in the recording schedule
[18:10:40] tmwsiy20121: anyone have n opinion on foxconn? never used any of their stuff but see it more and more
[18:11:14] jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cpe90-146-210-116.liwest.at) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:14:33] wagnerrp: they used to just be a parts manufacturer
[18:14:49] wagnerrp: you might see 'foxconn' on your ethernet connector on your current board
[18:15:15] wagnerrp: but as far as full boards? i dont know
[18:15:54] tmwsiy20121: full boards is what prompted the question
[18:16:22] tmwsiy20121: hmm I do have this ppc mac mini that I might could use for awhile.... wonder how it would work as a frontend for hd
[18:16:49] marko_d: mythtv seems litle mythic :)
[18:16:58] marko_d: thanks to all for the help
[18:17:05] opentrinity (opentrinity!n=opentrin@host54-112-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:17:18] kormoc: tmwsiy20121, it won't
[18:18:57] wagnerrp: the ppc minimacs dont have the power for HD mpeg2?
[18:19:12] iamlindoro: They are slowwwwwww
[18:19:18] kormoc: Last I heard, certainly not
[18:19:27] iamlindoro: 1 Ghz-ish PPC at the most IIRC
[18:19:58] tmwsiy20121: im not sure the exact specs other than it is ppc and es very SLOW
[18:19:59] tmwsiy20121: :)
[18:20:08] iamlindoro: No chance of it managing any sort of HD
[18:20:08] tmwsiy20121: thought it might have some redeeming gpu qualities
[18:20:14] iamlindoro: And no, the GPU sucks
[18:20:20] wagnerrp: oh, i didnt realize they were only G4s
[18:20:34] iamlindoro: Radeon 9200
[18:21:07] iamlindoro: The highest end PPC Mini had a 1.5 Ghz G4 w radeon 9200
[18:25:09] hatchmt (hatchmt!n=mhatch_@151.155.131.79) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[18:26:01] Shadow__X: oc it to 1.7ghz and your good to go
[18:26:06] hatchmt (hatchmt!n=mhatch_@nat/novell/x-e2023fa606731cd8) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:26:21] bfirsh (bfirsh!n=ben@host-137-205-75-054.res.warwick.ac.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:26:46] kormoc: cause a 12% overclock will do wonders!
[18:27:20] Shadow__X: kormoc, it always fixes speed and reliability issues
[18:27:21] wagnerrp: why not just throw a LN2 stack on the bizzatch and bump it up to 3.5!
[18:27:30] Shadow__X: esp in a serious of processor that are known to overheat
[18:27:50] Shadow__X: wagnerrp, that is preposterous
[18:29:00] mirak (mirak!n=mirak@81-66-70-98.rev.numericable.fr) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:29:13] kormoc: Yeah, toss some granite on it, as we all know rocks can hold a ton of heat when liquid!
[18:30:34] Shadow__X: of course
[18:36:54] iamlindoro: The Highest End G5s couldn't do much with HD video, odds of any G4, no matter how you o/c it, doing so are slim
[18:37:04] tipocomico_ (tipocomico_!n=ideiasof@bl8-224-228.dsl.telepac.pt) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[18:41:01] c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@211.107-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has quit ("Ex-Chat")
[18:42:13] univate (univate!n=chris@203-214-101-191.dyn.iinet.net.au) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[18:43:12] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@66-207-222-14.beanfield.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:46:28] Shadow__X: iamlindoro, it was a joke
[18:47:06] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:48:19] Penfold (Penfold!n=mikewh@alysande.altrion.org) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:55:16] univate (univate!n=chris@203-217-46-139.dyn.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users
[18:55:59] heynow (heynow!n=heynow@CPE0013f7fae034-CM0013f7fae030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit ()
[18:59:12] Heliwr (Heliwr!n=root@S0106000000000001.vs.shawcable.net) has quit ("rabid skunks are in the house")
[19:16:12] javatexan (javatexan!n=mia@129.62.151.57) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[19:16:15] Nockian: is there something i need to do to turn on auto-expire? my /var/lib partition is where mythtv stores its recordings, and it's now full... the mythbackend.log says this: 2009-04–29 15:13:37.069 TFW, Error: safe_write(): File I/O errcnt: 1 eno: No space left on device (28)
[19:21:43] Scopeuk (Scopeuk!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[19:23:20] Scopeuk (Scopeuk!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[19:27:25] Heliwr (Heliwr!n=root@S0106000000000001.vs.shawcable.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[19:32:57] deminished: does mythtv ever use vlc media player to play video content?
[19:33:08] Dagmar: Not by default
[19:33:12] wagnerrp: if you tell it to in mythvideo, yes
[19:33:23] Dagmar: You can configure it to do that, but any broken pieces you get to keep.
[19:33:33] deminished: intresting
[19:33:50] deminished: so if i did that it would "hide" what went on in console...
[19:33:59] deminished: and then play that video right ?
[19:34:25] Dagmar: Probably not, seeing as how I've no idea what you're talking about with respect to hiding consoles
[19:34:43] deminished: well i mean
[19:34:57] deminished: if i tryed to execute vlc myfile.vlc
[19:35:03] deminished: via myth tv
[19:35:13] deminished: i wouldnt see that text in console right ?
[19:35:18] Dagmar: Then god only knows whartwill happen
[19:35:22] deminished: hmm
[19:35:23] deminished: ok
[19:35:28] Dagmar: It depends on whatever VLC does when it grabs the display
[19:35:43] deminished: intresting ok thanks :)
[19:36:01] Dagmar: Gneerally the internal player Myth has is more than fine for everything, and as an added bonus doesn't require extra dorking around to work with LIRC
[19:36:48] messerting (messerting!n=messerti@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has joined #mythtv-users
[19:36:57] deminished: yeah i would just like to get vlc working
[19:37:00] deminished: i like vlc :)
[19:37:16] deminished: so could that be done via a "plugin" ?
[19:37:27] wagnerrp: yeah, its called mythvideo
[19:37:44] deminished: i mean could i make my own custom plugin
[19:37:47] iamlindoro: Why?
[19:37:49] deminished: to provide optional vlc ...
[19:37:53] iamlindoro: You already can
[19:38:00] wagnerrp: mythvideo already has optional vlc
[19:38:03] iamlindoro: You can use any external player you like with mythvideo
[19:38:08] iamlindoro: it's just stupid to do so
[19:38:11] wagnerrp: you tell it the exact command to play
[19:38:13] deminished: oh ok
[19:38:24] deminished: makes sense...
[19:38:34] kormoc: you could even have it pipe the video to /dev/null if you'd like
[19:38:57] deminished: ok thanks for the help guys :)
[19:39:01] ** iamlindoro wonders what marvelous things the internal player would do if MythVideo had never had external player support **
[19:40:26] bfirsh (bfirsh!n=ben@host-137-205-75-054.res.warwick.ac.uk) has quit ()
[19:48:16] Dibblah (Dibblah!n=Dibblah@94-168-152-182.cable.ubr11.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) has left #mythtv-users ()
[19:49:41] xfader83 (xfader83!n=xfader@94-194-89-135.zone8.bethere.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[19:51:46] xfader83: Hi all, i've just installed mytv for the first time. I am trying to play a video which is stored on a windows machine. I have mounted the share and added the path to the "directories that hold videos" section of the setup but i still cannot see any videos under "watch videos"
[19:54:35] wagnerrp: have you rescanned in the video manager?
[19:57:06] xfader83: when i go to video manager i just get "Enter video #", there are no videos in the list and the only action i can see is to filter
[19:57:34] Dibblah (Dibblah!n=Dibblah@94-168-152-182.cable.ubr11.dund.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[19:57:34] Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v Dibblah
[19:57:58] Commo-work (Commo-work!n=commo@h64-141-120-20.pcccinc.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[19:58:26] wagnerrp: because you have not yet scanned
[19:58:34] wagnerrp: hit 'm' to bring up the menu
[19:58:37] wagnerrp: and then hit scan
[19:58:38] iamlindoro: You didn't do something silly like install trunk, did you?
[19:59:04] iamlindoro: wagnerrp: Shouldn't need to do that if he's running -fixes
[19:59:17] iamlindoro: Entering the video manager should do the trick
[19:59:24] iamlindoro: and if running trunk, BAD UNDO BAD
[20:00:14] xfader83: hitting 'm' brings up a menu with 'filter display' and 'cancel' no sign of scan
[20:00:26] wagnerrp: did it? been so many months since ive used it
[20:00:41] iamlindoro: yep
[20:00:42] xfader83: i installed mythubuntu
[20:00:45] Shadow_M (Shadow_M!n=Shadow_M@RH-LaurelN-CS1-129-67.njit.edu) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:01:13] iamlindoro: anyhoo, if entering the video manager didn't add files, you either didn't add the full path properly, or they're all extensions myth doesn't know yet because you haven't added them
[20:01:32] iamlindoro: in Utilities/Setup->Setup->Media Settings->video Settings->File Types
[20:01:47] xfader83: ah i havent added any extensions, will do that now
[20:04:43] xfader83: thats done the trick, thanks for your help guys
[20:05:06] iamlindoro: np
[20:05:18] Scopeuk_ (Scopeuk_!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:05:53] KaZeR (KaZeR!n=kazer@230.149.81-79.rev.gaoland.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:09:03] thedarkone (thedarkone!n=heyheyhe@c-68-81-148-97.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:09:18] thedarkone: hey all
[20:09:32] thedarkone: has anyone use lirc with a dishnetwork 322?
[20:09:50] heynow (heynow!n=heynow@CPE0013f7fae034-CM0013f7fae030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:11:31] jpabq (jpabq!n=jpabq@72.244.78.11) has quit ()
[20:12:20] Scopeuk- (Scopeuk-!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:15:20] Scopeuk (Scopeuk!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[20:15:41] schlazor: thedarkone: i do with a 222
[20:15:44] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit ("Client exiting")
[20:16:34] thedarkone: for some reason i can't get it to do 3 digits
[20:16:58] schlazor: are you sleeping between button pushes?
[20:17:10] schlazor: (i.e. what channel changing script are you using?)
[20:17:23] thedarkone: yes
[20:17:30] schlazor: try not sleeping
[20:17:34] thedarkone: ie sleep .05
[20:17:55] thedarkone: i see
[20:18:02] thedarkone: i took out sleep now it work
[20:18:13] thedarkone: thank u
[20:18:46] schlazor: does the 322 have a second tuner in it?
[20:19:41] schlazor: well if someday you wonder if you can control the 2nd tuner with an ir blaster, you can't.
[20:20:10] schlazor: at least not without hacking a parallel interface onto a spare remote and using it to change channels via "UHF Pro"
[20:20:20] schlazor: which someone did
[20:23:31] croppa_ is now known as croppa
[20:23:35] poodyp (poodyp!n=poodyp@m320436d0.tmodns.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:24:41] Scopeuk_ (Scopeuk_!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[20:26:02] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:32:00] Slim-Kimbo (Slim-Kimbo!n=Kimbo@host86-135-118-230.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:34:15] jamspc (jamspc!n=ptpChat@174-156-167-9.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:34:32] jvs (jvs!n=jvs@cpe90-146-210-116.liwest.at) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
[20:35:11] jpabq (jpabq!n=jpabq@72.244.78.11) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:37:11] ForsGump_ is now known as ForsGump
[20:40:53] jamspc: i'm stuck and need a little help. I have 2 pcs with mythbuntu installed, 1 setup as a backend and 1 as a frontend. I cannot get the frontend to see the pvr150 in the backend. the backend can use the pvr150
[20:42:27] heynow (heynow!n=heynow@CPE0013f7fae034-CM0013f7fae030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit ()
[20:44:26] heynow (heynow!n=heynow@CPE0013f7fae034-CM0013f7fae030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:45:53] xfader83: i now mythtv running as i wanted, the only little bug i've found is the movie posters do not automatically download with the other metadata. Is there a bug in the IMDB parsing or am i missing a config setting?
[20:48:03] heynow (heynow!n=heynow@CPE0013f7fae034-CM0013f7fae030.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has quit (Client Quit)
[20:48:48] iamlindoro: We no longer use IMDB as they have made it clear they don't want scrapers accessing their site, we now use: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Tmdb.pl
[20:49:04] iamlindoro: the instructions on that page are cut-and-pasteable to download and install it
[20:49:50] iamlindoro: literally just cut and paste the three blocks of code
[20:51:03] iamlindoro: TMDB has much much better poster quality anyway, and is the default movie grabber in the next release of myth
[20:52:21] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:52:23] jamspc (jamspc!n=ptpChat@174-156-167-9.pools.spcsdns.net) has quit ("Client")
[20:57:35] Pooky (Pooky!n=pooky@97-124-102-235.phnx.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[20:57:42] xfader83: thanks again, i now have everything i need and im well impressed
[20:58:10] iamlindoro: Wait'll you see the next version ;)
[20:58:42] xfader83: i can't wait, when is it scheduled for release?
[20:59:02] iamlindoro: No schedule yet-- a few months
[20:59:40] xfader83: i'll certainly look out for it
[21:03:04] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has quit ()
[21:09:18] opentrinity (opentrinity!n=opentrin@host54-112-dynamic.180-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has quit ("***debian rules!!***")
[21:10:36] bfirsh (bfirsh!n=ben@host-137-205-75-054.res.warwick.ac.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[21:12:21] ccfreak2k (ccfreak2k!i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[21:12:38] iamlindoro: blah, guess TMS didn't get the memo about the presidential news conference tonight
[21:13:04] iamlindoro: Guess I should pad Lost just in case
[21:13:07] ccfreak2k (ccfreak2k!i=ccfreak2@li26-205.members.linode.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[21:13:33] schlazor: iamlindoro: what time is that scheduled for?
[21:14:02] iamlindoro: schlazor: 8 PM EST
[21:14:12] iamlindoro: so I take it back, it should only affect east coasters
[21:14:25] iamlindoro: 5–6 PM for me, so no worries
[21:14:38] schlazor: ah, i'm CDT, so it prob will
[21:14:41] anykey__: bah, a flipbook animation isn't a good idea for a background :/
[21:14:59] schlazor: and i record the unusuals too so maybe i'll just pad that one
[21:15:04] Dagmar: Depends on how much you hate free RAM
[21:15:19] schlazor: and apparently thats the channel i record TV news on so nm i should be set
[21:15:31] wagnerrp: 20% after 2 hours...
[21:15:52] schlazor: (pops in law is a photog for the abc affiliate)
[21:17:35] wagnerrp: well (for me), better off ted seems to be cancelled tonight
[21:17:43] wagnerrp: do you westerners just lose your news?
[21:17:54] Shadow_M (Shadow_M!n=Shadow_M@RH-LaurelN-CS1-129-67.njit.edu) has quit ("Leaving")
[21:18:04] iamlindoro: wagnerrp: Just the evening news, yeah
[21:18:10] iamlindoro: I still show Better off Ted as happening
[21:22:31] lyricnzzzzzzzzzz is now known as lyricnz
[21:23:34] meshe: heh, Fox decided not to air the presidential press conference
[21:23:50] iamlindoro: gbee: You must be happy, your new Mandriva is out
[21:24:07] iamlindoro: Maybe I'll play with it in a VM
[21:26:07] gbee: iamlindoro: heh, I'd completely forgotten about that
[21:26:17] iamlindoro: Something to do :)
[21:27:03] gbee: aye, although as it happens I'm busy tonight, so I'll start downloading the ISOs and play tomorrow
[21:29:09] gbee: looking forward to putting it on my netbook now that the novelty of the custom linpus has worn off
[21:31:16] iamlindoro: I haven't used an RPM distro since... well, since Mandriva was Mandrake and I bought it at the bookstore in college
[21:31:26] jamspc (jamspc!n=ptpChat2@174-156-167-9.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[21:32:36] gbee: rpm has improved since then, not that I think it was ever that bad
[21:32:49] gbee: but each to their own
[21:33:19] iamlindoro: One thing that keeps me using debian-based distros is the simplicity of slurping in all the deps with build-dep
[21:34:37] iamlindoro: build dependencies, that is
[21:36:29] revilootneg (revilootneg!n=oliver@89.198.66.140) has quit ("leaving")
[21:36:31] gbee: the release has been slashdotted? Aside from the download link on the homepage everything else is pretty quiet, IRC channels are dead
[21:37:29] gbee: notice that they have buried the DVD iso this time, no direct or even indirect links to it, had to dig through the ftp
[21:37:48] iamlindoro: Heh, that's what I've got coming in now
[21:37:51] gbee: probably sensible until there are more mirrors active and the rush dies down
[21:38:00] iamlindoro: Figure I'll play with it in virtualbox, can't hurt to try
[21:38:23] iamlindoro: I see they're including songbird-- Tried that for the first time this week and was floored by it, wondered why I hadn't heard more about it before
[21:39:19] schlazor: iamlindoro: for a time it did bad things to certain shiny overpriced DRM riddled DAPs.
[21:39:48] iamlindoro: Seems fairly iPod friendly now
[21:39:57] iamlindoro: s/fairly/very/
[21:40:18] schlazor: yes, i think it hurt the uptake a little though... even though it was fixed quickly and whatnot
[21:40:31] grokky (grokky!n=grokky@excalibur.csse.unimelb.edu.au) has joined #mythtv-users
[21:40:31] jamspc (jamspc!n=ptpChat2@174-156-167-9.pools.spcsdns.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[21:41:51] Ryushin (Ryushin!i=proxy@windwalker.openinnovations.com) has quit ("Client exiting")
[21:42:47] gbee: bad things? It just didn't play them, or it actually damaged the files?
[21:43:23] meshe: wow, does that ever look like itunes
[21:43:36] schlazor: i think it damaged files
[21:43:44] schlazor: lets see what google says
[21:43:47] schlazor: maybe i dreamed it
[21:44:24] schlazor: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2009/03/19/ipod- . . . es-the-dust/
[21:44:38] iamlindoro: meshe: Yes, and behaves quite a bit like it too
[21:44:50] iamlindoro: meshe: But has some *very* neat Internet mashup features
[21:45:16] iamlindoro: meshe: ie you play a track from your collection, it pulls in the artist bio and picture, gives you the option to play similar from last.fm, etc.
[21:45:27] meshe: i'll have to check it out when i get home, the question is, does it have lirc support
[21:45:55] meshe: that's pretty nice
[21:46:38] iamlindoro: Yeah-- just a lot of well thought out UI stuff, and some pretty neat plugins
[21:46:40] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@ppp118-208-134-50.lns10.mel4.internode.on.net) has quit ()
[21:47:50] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit ("Leaving")
[21:47:57] meshe: wow, no results on apt-cache search songbird
[21:48:46] meshe: that's gotta be a first for me
[21:48:55] schlazor: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2008/06/30/fedora-fc9-rpms/
[21:49:35] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users
[21:49:36] iamlindoro: meshe: I had to install with a deb, dunno why
[21:49:44] schlazor: not that i know what the current version of fedora is anymore
[21:50:20] meshe: yeah, usually the app i'm looking for is just there even fairly new ones
[21:50:57] schlazor: it seems like all the distros give it the cold shoulder so far
[21:52:03] meshe: haha, sweet: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/9
[21:52:27] schlazor: cuz amarok and rhythmbox are sooo nice? ;)
[21:52:45] RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@252.249.sfcn.org) has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
[21:53:00] meshe: i sortof liked amarok, i found it too heavy though
[21:53:04] iamlindoro: I really don't care for rhythmbox, banshee is slightly better and what I've been using
[21:53:16] iamlindoro: But I *really* like what I've seen of songbird thus far
[21:53:25] schlazor: never tried banshee but the other two made me cry
[21:53:30] meshe: itunes is also heavy, but for the feature-set it was worth running while in windows
[21:53:37] meshe: xmms
[21:53:50] meshe: or mythmusic
[21:54:19] schlazor: generally on a mac so itunes for me so far, do want to look into songbird again tho, last i looked it crashed all the time but that was one of the first public builds :)
[21:55:04] meshe: the only think i flip over to windows for is my MMO, otherwise it's all Ubuntu
[21:55:27] RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@252.249.sfcn.org) has joined #mythtv-users
[21:55:30] iamlindoro: meshe: What MMO won't run in WINE?
[21:56:38] meshe: it'll run in wine (Lord of the Rings Online), but since i've added my second monitor it doesn't play nicely with 3360x1050 whereas windows does
[21:56:48] kslater (kslater!n=kslater@209.195.188.38) has quit (Read error: 113 (No route to host))
[21:56:52] iamlindoro: ah
[21:57:10] Pooky (Pooky!n=pooky@97-124-102-235.phnx.qwest.net) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[21:57:19] iamlindoro: Heh, iPhone remote for songbird, coolio
[21:57:22] meshe: and i'm not willing to give up my 3' view into the game
[21:58:43] bfirsh (bfirsh!n=ben@host-137-205-75-054.res.warwick.ac.uk) has quit ()
[21:58:45] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has joined #mythtv-users
[21:59:15] bfirsh (bfirsh!n=ben@host-137-205-75-054.res.warwick.ac.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[21:59:45] marko_d (marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[21:59:51] Dagmar: ...and scotch is more effective.
[21:59:58] Dagmar: wrongchan
[22:00:35] schlazor: Dagmar: its 5pm here!
[22:00:37] bfirsh (bfirsh!n=ben@host-137-205-75-054.res.warwick.ac.uk) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[22:01:10] jamspc (jamspc!n=ptpChat2@174-156-167-9.pools.spcsdns.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[22:01:14] RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@252.249.sfcn.org) has quit ()
[22:01:26] RyeBrye (RyeBrye!n=ryebrye@252.249.sfcn.org) has joined #mythtv-users
[22:02:48] jamspc (jamspc!n=ptpChat2@174-156-167-9.pools.spcsdns.net) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[22:03:03] schlazor: http://gizmodo.com/5233227/system-builders-by . . . ios-tweaking
[22:07:50] meshe: sweet, now if my provider would just offer cable card...
[22:08:49] MartinCleaver (MartinCleaver!n=martincl@66-207-222-14.beanfield.net) has quit ()
[22:10:20] messerting (messerting!n=messerti@cm-84.208.182.112.getinternet.no) has quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[22:11:52] _marko_d (_marko_d!n=maki@89.205.59.45) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[22:18:44] Dagmar: HAHAH
[22:18:50] Dagmar: Like that's going to happen in the US
[22:20:00] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@203.171.199.199) has joined #mythtv-users
[22:20:32] XLV (XLV!n=XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) has quit ("Leaving")
[22:20:53] riddlebox (riddlebox!n=james@75-132-225-75.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[22:21:00] RyeBrye: Cool. I have a P5Q :)
[22:29:38] mersault (mersault!n=Mersault@static-1M-b1-17.highspeed.eol.ca) has joined #mythtv-users
[22:32:33] stoth (stoth!n=stoth@ool-45721e5a.dyn.optonline.net) has quit ("Leaving")
[22:33:29] ** Dave123 has a b0rked p5q **
[22:34:14] iamlindoro: Still useless for linux
[22:34:18] iamlindoro: /myth
[22:34:32] mersault: I (foolishly, perhaps) installed the weekly builds from -trunk for mythbuntu 9.04, and my mythfrontend is crashing. Anyone else trying the trunk builds?
[22:40:00] iamlindoro: mersault, the dev channel is not the right place for that
[22:40:18] iamlindoro: the segfault is almost certainyl because you have multiple versions of the myth libs installed
[22:40:37] iamlindoro: updatedb && locate libmyth
[22:40:41] iamlindoro: and pastebin output
[22:40:56] iamlindoro: also ls -al /usr/local/lib/mythtv/plugins/*
[22:41:14] iamlindoro: and you really ought to be asking these questions of your distro's channel
[22:42:02] mersault: iamlindoro: I have been working this for two nights now, without success. Desperation is kicking in.
[22:42:46] iamlindoro: Unless you have a really compelling reason, you should roll back to the release
[22:43:20] mersault: iamlindoro: Unfortunately, some content was recorded on the (functional) backend.
[22:43:24] mersault: http://pastebin.ca/1407921
[22:43:43] iamlindoro: yep, you installed .22 libs all over the .21 ones
[22:43:47] iamlindoro: it'll never work that way
[22:43:48] Wicked: hello all. i have a pvr-150 using latest .21 svn....and it seems my picture is not centered. i took a screen shot here http://gallery.roob.us/d/2246-1/mythtv.png ....theres that black bar on the right..i dont ever remember there being a black bar there
[22:43:56] Dagmar: Never double-stack your installs.
[22:44:14] kormoc: Wicked, notice the fact that the OSD is over top of it? it's in the captured video
[22:44:15] mersault: iamlindoro: grrr. Strangely the same upgrade process on the actual backend worked fine.
[22:44:51] iamlindoro: mersault, that's between you and your packager
[22:44:53] Wicked: kormoc, yea. do you think its just comcast broadcasting it like that?
[22:45:02] Dagmar: Wicked: You said "Comcast"
[22:45:03] Wicked: or could something on my end be set wrong?.
[22:45:03] iamlindoro: mersault, But it *will* eventually hork your backend, too
[22:45:07] Dagmar: That should answer it right there
[22:45:10] Wicked: lol
[22:45:25] kormoc: Wicked, likely
[22:45:50] Wicked: oh hmm
[22:45:53] Wicked: damn them!
[22:47:06] mersault: iamlindoro: crazy. it's clean on my backend. only 0.21 there.
[22:47:21] iamlindoro: mersault, If it's only .21 on your backend, then your backend isn't running trunk
[22:47:52] mersault: er, sorry, 0.22
[22:48:13] mersault: now I'm distracted figuring out how I'm gonna remove 0.21 from the frontend
[22:48:13] iamlindoro: anyway, you *really* ought to roll back to the release. Cut your losses while it's still possible
[22:48:31] iamlindoro: copy out the recordings, roll back, import the recordings
[22:48:43] abqjp (abqjp!n=john@c-69-254-145-214.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[22:49:50] RyeBrye_ (RyeBrye_!n=RyeBrye@252.249.sfcn.org) has joined #mythtv-users
[22:52:40] ** iamlindoro sighs **
[22:52:55] iamlindoro: people are always desperate when they want free help but turn up their noses at good advice
[22:53:46] Penfold (Penfold!n=mikewh@alysande.altrion.org) has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep")
[22:54:12] RyeBrye_ (RyeBrye_!n=RyeBrye@252.249.sfcn.org) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[22:54:18] lyricnz (lyricnz!n=simonrob@203.171.199.199) has quit (Connection timed out)
[22:55:53] RyeBrye: I use trunk, but I dont' trust some packager to build it for me
[22:56:07] RyeBrye: it's not like it's that hard to build it yourself
[22:56:39] RyeBrye: If people keep lowering the bar of the bleeding edge, eventually everyone will cut their heads off running into it
[22:57:49] mersault: iamlindoro: that's a particularly condescending way of looking at it. the other way of looking at this circumstance is I'm an early adopter looking to try out the new features and provide feedback to the community, and prepared to spend a few hours trying to make a go of it. just because you've already grown tired of giving advice doesn't mean I've grown tired of trying.
[22:58:56] RyeBrye: mersault: my 2 cents is to screw using the repo and build it from the source
[22:58:56] RyeBrye: it's a lot easier
[22:58:56] RyeBrye: well
[22:58:56] RyeBrye: not a lot easier, but it will probably at least work
[22:59:02] iamlindoro: mersault, We don't *need* users of trunk right now
[22:59:12] iamlindoro: we need developers and patch contributors
[22:59:29] iamlindoro: nobody has time for "feedback to the community"
[22:59:31] mersault: I suppose that's a fine sentiment, if there's anything resembling regular releases.
[23:00:20] iamlindoro: releases aren't some arbitrary moment in time, it takes weeks and weeks of work to clean things up and get them stable enough for a release, trunk will by definition always be devoid of that and be filled with someone's half-finished work, my own included
[23:01:07] mersault: I understand that. I'm not new to software development. I just decided I was bored of 0.21-fixes, but not prepared to dump mythtv for any one of the other contenders that have put out releases since.
[23:02:21] iamlindoro: so you're willing to troll the wrong channel to get help when you have the simplest possible problem in running trunk, but not willing to pay for it by enduring some decent advice?
[23:02:34] ** kormoc sighs **
[23:02:39] kormoc: This doesn't seem to be going anywhere
[23:02:52] iamlindoro: Indeed
[23:02:54] ** iamlindoro drops it **
[23:03:34] mersault: it's very sound advice, and I do in fact have DB backups from each step in the process. It's still fair to get prickly at the tone of the delivery.
[23:04:05] c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@211.107-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:04:18] iamlindoro: Guess that's the price of free, correct help when everyone else is ignoring you, then
[23:07:21] mersault: iamlindoro: I suppose I just would have appreciated the chance to say 'thank you' before making condescending remarks about me
[23:07:36] Dagmar: There was nothing wrong with his tone.
[23:08:16] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[23:08:52] poodyp (poodyp!n=poodyp@m320436d0.tmodns.net) has quit (Read error: 54 (Connection reset by peer))
[23:09:12] Gumby (Gumby!n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:10:02] RyeBrye: The primary audience of Myth is the developers of Myth and the developers friends. The fact that others get to use it as well for free is a nice bonus.
[23:10:04] Dagmar: You just didn't like it because you didn't like _what_ he had to say, specifically that you'd erred in installing trunk, that you should roll back to 0.21-fixes and give on the promise of the shiny-shiny you wanted, and that you had a lot of tedious filecopying ahead of you.
[23:10:08] poodyp (poodyp!n=poodyp@m320436d0.tmodns.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:11:06] Dagmar: ...and it wasn't just "advice", it literally is the only way you're getting that working properly again.
[23:11:36] davidm2 (davidm2!n=David@nat/ti/x-9cadf4a1ec987c3e) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[23:12:49] Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!n=chris@c-76-18-186-75.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has quit (Excess Flood)
[23:13:12] Lord_Deathscythe (Lord_Deathscythe!n=chris@c-76-18-186-75.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:15:54] datagen24 (datagen24!n=scp@c-75-68-48-81.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:17:00] aarcane (aarcane!n=aarcane@c-98-238-136-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:17:13] aarcane: hallo hallo, I need a minor assistance with a small issue
[23:17:31] wagnerrp: dont ask to ask, just ask
[23:18:38] datagen24: I am having some issues with a configuring my new cable box, I have tried a few sites but none seam to work, here is a patbin with lsmod and plugreport output, hoping sombody can help
[23:18:41] datagen24: http://pastebin.ca/1407955
[23:18:50] aarcane: I have mythbackend configured to connect, as best I can tell, to mysql at rebirth.aarcane.info, which is a server on my local network, and also happens to be the same machine mythbackend is running on. if I connect at the command line, it connects properly, and mythfrontend is connecting properly, but for some reason, mythbackend is insisting on connecting as 'mythtv'@'localhost' instead of 'mythtv'@'rebirth.aarcane.info'.
[23:18:50] aarcane: how do I tell it to connect using the proper credentials ?
[23:19:23] wagnerrp: are you starting mythbackend manually? or through init scripts?
[23:19:44] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:20:09] wagnerrp: it may be grabbing out of a different location, such as /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/
[23:22:08] aarcane: init scripts, and as far as I know it's pulling from /var/lib/mythtv/.mythtv
[23:23:28] c0p3rn1c (c0p3rn1c!n=jeroen@211.107-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) has quit ("Ex-Chat")
[23:26:57] xfader83 (xfader83!n=xfader@94-194-89-135.zone8.bethere.co.uk) has quit ()
[23:27:10] cipher_nemo (cipher_nemo!i=cipher_n@about/essy/ISeeDeadTanks/ciphernemo) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:27:13] cipher_nemo (cipher_nemo!i=cipher_n@about/essy/ISeeDeadTanks/ciphernemo) has quit (Client Quit)
[23:29:17] mirak (mirak!n=mirak@81-66-70-98.rev.numericable.fr) has quit (Remote closed the connection)
[23:30:26] datagen24: anybody able to help with my cablebox over firewire wire setup on fedora 10?, paste bin of lsmod and plugreport http://pastebin.ca/1407955
[23:34:08] iamlindoro: datagen24, Nobody is going to just volunteer for help without hearing an actual question, and none of that output is of any use, why not explain what the problem it?
[23:34:09] iamlindoro: is
[23:34:10] Feisar (Feisar!n=quassel@cpc2-bedn1-0-0-cust546.lutn.cable.ntl.com) has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[23:36:11] datagen24: at the moment I am not able to see the cablebox, I am seeing the errors on lines 59,60, which aparently mean somthings wrong, but I am not able to find any information on how to fix those errors
[23:36:38] iamlindoro: Those aren't errors
[23:36:38] datagen24: I keep going through the setup information on the wiki and still get the same thing
[23:36:49] iamlindoro: That just means that nothing is plugged into port 0
[23:37:08] iamlindoro: port 0, port 1. One has a device on it, one doesn't
[23:37:25] Scopeuk- (Scopeuk-!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[23:37:29] datagen24: the only device plugged in is the cablebox, to the only firewire port
[23:37:46] iamlindoro: doesn't maent the chipset doesn't address two nodes
[23:37:48] iamlindoro: er mean
[23:38:00] datagen24: ahh
[23:38:02] iamlindoro: but hey, if you want to continue staring at what you think is a problem, enjoy
[23:39:11] datagen24: well that helps to know that, as the wiki makes you think that you have a problem if you see those errors.
[23:40:09] iamlindoro: Node and adapter should be apparent. If not, plugreport often outputs oMPR/iMPR errors for the adaptor, and it is usually (but not always) node 0.
[23:40:14] iamlindoro: That's a quote from the wiki
[23:40:17] superdump (superdump!n=rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has quit (Nick collision from services.)
[23:40:31] iamlindoro: fairly clear to me, saying that errors reported for the adapter itself, usually node 0, are not a problem
[23:40:39] superdump (superdump!n=rob@unaffiliated/superdump) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:40:55] datagen24: thats what I interpert as being in error, but I am new to this stuff still learning
[23:41:55] Scopeuk (Scopeuk!n=scopeukf@78-105-163-174.zone3.bethere.co.uk) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:47:43] cipher_nemo (cipher_nemo!i=cipher_n@about/essy/ISeeDeadTanks/ciphernemo) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:47:48] cipher_nemo (cipher_nemo!i=cipher_n@about/essy/ISeeDeadTanks/ciphernemo) has quit (Client Quit)
[23:48:59] datagen24: now that I have firewire_tester built and everything fails, where should I go , patebin http://pastebin.ca/1407964
[23:49:47] Dagmar: Do you have any *other* firewire devices?
[23:49:56] Dagmar: i.e., can you be sure your firewire even works?
[23:50:02] lotia (lotia!n=lotia@host86-173-96-198.range86-173.btcentralplus.com) has quit ()
[23:50:03] Dagmar: *That's* where you go from there.
[23:50:25] datagen24: yes hard disks, and they have worked in the past
[23:50:42] Dagmar: Do they work now?
[23:50:43] datagen24: that was the first thing I checked, when I was having issues
[23:50:59] iamlindoro: try -b and -B instead of -p
[23:51:05] iamlindoro: make sure your box is on a network TV channel
[23:51:23] iamlindoro: if you are on, say, NBC, and neither -p, -b, and -B work, then you are sunk, no firewire for you
[23:52:12] datagen24: i have been using it on scifi, (i can see it in the clear on analog cable, currently) so i should change it to NBC
[23:52:22] mersault (mersault!n=Mersault@static-1M-b1-17.highspeed.eol.ca) has quit ()
[23:52:41] iamlindoro: what's in the clear on analog cable and what you can view via firewire have no relation whatsoever to one another
[23:52:58] iamlindoro: hell, what you can view via *QAM* and what's on firewire have no relation to one another
[23:53:31] datagen24: ahh ok, i was not sure if it made a diffrence
[23:54:05] iamlindoro: I say to switch to NBC because most people who get anything from firewire manage network TV... if you can't prime the connection on NBC, the rest of the channels are hopeless
[23:55:00] Pooky (Pooky!n=pooky@174-17-17-219.phnx.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:55:00] datagen24: ok I will try that
[23:57:52] aarcane (aarcane!n=aarcane@c-98-238-136-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[23:59:35] datagen24: ok no joy on any of the network chanels, is their a way to tell if it is the box, comcast tech who came out (becuase we had to upgrade from analog to digital) said that those ports where turned off and could not be turned on they where their for other systems. if thats the case I would not be getting anything from plugreport right?
[23:59:55] mchou: datagen24: yup, there is a way to tell on the box

IRC Logs collected by BeirdoBot.
Please use the above link to report any bugs.