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Thursday, April 23rd, 2009, 00:00 UTC
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[00:02:42] blackest_knight: is a 2.4ghz p4 any good these days
[00:03:25] meshe: a myth box running SD
[00:03:41] ** Captain_Murdoch uses a 2.6 Ghz P4 as his main frontend right now and playing HD (just barely via XvMC) **
[00:05:00] meshe: my frontend/backend is running on a celeron 1.7Ghz
[00:05:06] meshe: but it's SD only
[00:05:27] blackest_knight: i was just thinking about my compaq evo d510s its small and quiet i bought it for sticking in the living room but its not really been used much
[00:05:31] wagnerrp: well an old P3 is plenty sufficient for SD
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[00:06:06] blackest_knight: is it better than my amd xp1600+
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[00:06:16] plb_: what's the hotkey to bring up guide?
[00:07:06] Captain_Murdoch: whatever you have assigned to the GUIDE keybinding. I don't know if there is a default.
[00:07:31] plb_: i put F3 in .lircrc but it's not working
[00:08:13] ** Captain_Murdoch just uses irxevent instead of builtin lirc support. **
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[00:10:50] plb_: huh?
[00:11:15] Captain_Murdoch: nevermind.
[00:11:36] Captain_Murdoch: try 'S'
[00:11:55] plb_: ok
[00:12:08] Captain_Murdoch: that's not the jumppoint binding, but is the default for during playback.
[00:12:22] plb_: thanks that worked
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[00:12:46] Captain_Murdoch: yw
[00:13:06] plb_: btw can I make myth read my standard mplayer config in ~/.mplayer/config?
[00:13:35] kormoc: what would that do? Myth has nothing to do with mplayer...
[00:13:35] Captain_Murdoch: Myth doesn't use mplayer except unless you have mplayer setup as an external player in MythVideo. MythTV uses its own builtin player.
[00:14:07] plb_: ah
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[00:24:24] plb_: is there a hotkey to adjust sharpness
[00:24:25] plb_: ?
[00:24:47] iamlindoro: No, but it's in the Player Menu
[00:25:27] plb_: whereabouts is the player menu?
[00:25:56] iamlindoro: Press M while using the internal player
[00:26:06] plb_: thanks
[00:26:08] iamlindoro: np
[00:26:54] iamlindoro: You have to have picture controls turned on in the player settings, and your driver and renderer have to support it
[00:27:34] plb_: hrm
[00:27:51] plb_: where do i turn on picture controls?
[00:28:05] plb_: ah
[00:28:07] iamlindoro: In TV Settings->Playback
[00:28:07] plb_: i see
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[00:29:19] frogonwheels: for those who were talking to me yesterday – I rebuilt a kernel – a few options changed (like target CPU) and things are better.. still the odd glitch.. but briefer, and not annoying...
[00:29:40] frogonwheels: .. new problem: when I exit out of playback / live tv.. mythfrontend crashes.
[00:29:56] frogonwheels: any ideas?
[00:30:30] frogonwheels: (running mythbuntu 9.04 with custom compiled build-kpkg kernel)
[00:30:37] plb_: hrm guess my driver doesn't support picture controls =[
[00:31:18] plb_: which drivers does myth use? i use xv for mplayer and it has it
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[00:37:27] HaSH: anyone have any experience with there pvr-150 and tinny audio?...ive had this problem off and on for a while now and have not found a solution. from all the googling around ive done ive only found old posts that i dont think are relevant anymore. im using svideo in on the card
[00:37:53] HaSH: it just sucks really bad when it happens on a recording i really wanna watch...cuz then i gotta find that episode by other means.
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[00:45:55] iamlindoro: xris, http://www.fecitfacta.com/screenshots/
[00:46:12] iamlindoro: named for the files which they replace, and adds the other two views for MythVideo and one for MythGallery
[00:46:36] iamlindoro: Don't know if you have blurbs for the other plugins, but could give MythUI'd screenshots for most of them too
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[00:54:15] blackest_knight: screenshots look good
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[01:15:03] yates: "
[01:15:41] ** iamlindoro feels an unhealthy urge to terminate those quotes **
[01:15:48] iamlindoro: "
[01:15:53] iamlindoro: There, now I can sleep
[01:16:37] yates: what's the advantage mythtv has over simply setting up a standard linux system (say, F10) with a hdtv card ?
[01:16:59] frogonwheels: yates: mythtv is just an app
[01:17:09] yates: oh
[01:17:15] frogonwheels: yates: you gotta view the hdtv card somehow.
[01:17:17] yates: i thought it was an entire linux build
[01:17:35] iamlindoro: There are distros build around myth, but Myth itself is a suite of applications
[01:17:40] frogonwheels: yates: There are distros that are geared round myth
[01:17:55] yates: yeah, that was gonna be my next question – is there a way to direct standard players like vlc, xine, etc, to send their output to a hd card instead of the normal x session?
[01:18:00] frogonwheels: yates like Mythbuntu and Nopmyth? ermm. something like that
[01:18:23] iamlindoro: Knoppmyth is now LinHES, but yes
[01:18:55] iamlindoro: Mythbuntu, LinHES, Mythdora, MiniMyth, etc.
[01:18:57] frogonwheels: iamlindoro: ah woops.. killed by the psilent k ;)
[01:19:00] yates: yes, but i guess you've answered that you don't really need a special build
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[01:19:18] frogonwheels: yates: exactly.
[01:19:39] yates: i heard ext2 isn't good for video – true?
[01:19:47] yates: ext2 filesystem, that is
[01:20:06] frogonwheels: yates: I think xfs is better for large files.
[01:20:12] iamlindoro: Ext2 is pretty ancient, but it's fine for video, just bad for *deleting* large files
[01:20:31] iamlindoro: XFS or JFS are better for Myth recordings directories, IMO
[01:20:38] frogonwheels: yates: which is different from saying ext2 is not good.
[01:20:47] yates: less better
[01:20:52] yates: ?
[01:21:19] frogonwheels: :) exactly. actually wikipedia has a good comparison on what different filesystems give you
[01:21:37] yates: so, is there a way to direct a standard video app (xine) to output to an hd card?
[01:21:48] yates: if so, how?
[01:21:56] yates: is it configured as another display or somesuch?
[01:22:20] yates: display=localhost:0.1 or localhost:1 or somesuch?
[01:22:29] ** frogonwheels wonders if you can have an xserver on a v4l output? **
[01:23:07] frogonwheels: yates: I think vdr by default tries to output to the hd card.
[01:23:18] yates: so one thing mythtv provides is an app that decodes standard video and sends it to the hd card?
[01:23:34] yates: standard video files, wmv, avi, etc
[01:23:46] frogonwheels: no.. it's an alternative to myth.. don't know about myth.. anybody?
[01:25:05] frogonwheels: yates: ahh! there _IS_ a v4l driver for xorg
[01:26:00] frogonwheels: yates: man v4l if you have it installed
[01:26:32] yates: ok, thanks for now – gotta go -sorry for the abrupt termination.
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[01:39:24] iamlindoro: Ooof! Australians get to pay $3 a week for listings from IceTV, let that be a response to the people who complain about the $20 a year from SD
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[01:44:20] sphery: iamlindoro: "You don't have to live on the bleeding edge to experience this issue unfortunately. The pulseaudio change was backported to 0.21-fixes in revision #20425. So for many, those that had a nice and stable box will suddenly found that it won't start anymore. It kind of looses the purpose of running 0.21-fixes."
[01:44:34] iamlindoro: sphery, I LOVED that last sentence
[01:44:42] oobe: iamlindoro, or they can use the free and better shepherd which some people dont think is legal but it is
[01:44:45] iamlindoro: had to prevent the reply reflex
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[01:45:19] sphery: yeah, it's classic...
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[01:48:08] oobe: i used an icetv trial i got 1 week trial i only used it for a day before i changed back
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[01:50:37] iamlindoro: oobe, Should still be thankful that they exist to go through the whole lawsuit... all the grabbers win because of it
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[01:51:25] oobe: im sorry i dont know what you mean by lawsuit i assume there was some fiasco to do with scrapers or somthing
[01:51:28] iamlindoro: Now you guys have some nice case law that says all the listings sources are legal
[01:51:43] oobe: oh really
[01:51:44] plb_: does radeon driver provide picture controls?
[01:51:53] oobe: that happened here
[01:51:54] iamlindoro: http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/30025 . . . nine_network
[01:52:11] oobe: you keep up to date on everything
[01:52:27] iamlindoro: bits and pieces
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[01:55:14] oobe: i saw that security link you posted before to
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[02:04:38] Dagmar: It pays to keep one eye on the lawyers
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[02:05:27] ultra-: does anybody know of open source squeezebox client software?
[02:05:34] ultra-: i want to learn from it to write my own
[02:07:33] oobe: isnt there a myth plugin
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[02:11:03] ultra-: ok i'll look
[02:11:04] ultra-: thanks
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[02:14:32] oobe: http://sourceforge.net/projects/mythsqueezebox/
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[02:14:36] oobe: lol
[02:14:40] oobe: hes gone
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[02:16:08] Captain_Murdoch: if he couldn't figure out how to use google, do you think he would have figured out how to click that link?
[02:16:17] oobe: :P
[02:16:39] oobe: i was curious too so i thought i would look
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[02:31:19] sphery: iamlindoro: did I misread or is it fixes+vdpau+latm+a bunch and now -the pulse changeset?
[02:31:56] iamlindoro: where -the = Minus the? Yes, that's what I understand
[02:32:20] sphery: yeah, was minus
[02:32:33] sphery: now I'm wondering if he's saying it's a build issue, not related to the changeset
[02:32:50] iamlindoro: Not that there isn't precedent, remember he reversed the 1x deinterlacer stuff when he didn't agree with that
[02:33:16] sphery: true
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[02:37:34] iamlindoro: #6491 = innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnvalid!
[02:37:51] iamlindoro: "error type: User Error"
[02:37:54] iamlindoro: "error string: No channels were detected. Are you sure that MythTV is properly configured?"
[02:38:09] iamlindoro: When will you Myth devs stop with these crazy impossible to understand error messages?
[02:41:01] oobe: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php . . . ame=poobuntu
[02:45:43] oobe: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=41583
[02:52:00] iamlindoro: Bitterrrrrrrr
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[04:10:40] jflatt: anybody have a fix for NVP::AddAudioData():p1: Audio buffer overflow,
[04:10:42] jflatt: audio data lost!
[04:11:37] sphery: meshe: Want another tmdb.pl error? "Use of uninitialized value in substr at tmdb.pl line 150" (patched version, it's the line: "my $year = substr($releasedate, 0, 4);") — can reproduce with "Balls Out-The Gary Houseman Story"
[04:11:58] ** iamlindoro makes a mental note not to look up that film **
[04:12:05] iamlindoro: For a variety of reasons
[04:13:11] meshe: on it
[04:14:15] meshe: geeze, did i miss a mass update to mythvideo?
[04:14:29] iamlindoro: Don't think so
[04:14:32] iamlindoro: nothing in a long time
[04:14:45] iamlindoro: there was a gigantic svn props change a week or two ago
[04:14:56] iamlindoro: which *looks* like a huge bunch of changes, but isn't actually any
[04:15:06] meshe: ahh, that's probably it, got U's beside all the files in mythvideo
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[04:15:54] iamlindoro: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/log/trunk/mythplugins/mythvideo
[04:15:59] ** iamlindoro sees his name a lot :) **
[04:16:32] iamlindoro: I hate these Lost catch up episodes (grumble grumble)
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[04:20:45] meshe: sphery: searching for that on themoviedb.org is returning a rails error?
[04:21:17] meshe: ^H^H
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[04:22:08] iamlindoro: http://api.themoviedb.org/2.0/Movie.imdbLooku . . . 009380562c62
[04:22:18] iamlindoro: Looking it up directly withthe API returns no results
[04:23:49] kormoc: when you walk the rails, you get hit by the train!
[04:24:17] meshe: i think they're broken
[04:25:34] meshe: haha, you can't search for the word balls
[04:26:13] meshe: sphery: i also can't reproduce the error, am i missing a patch, it's on line 140 for me
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[04:32:44] meshe: but the problem with that line is that if $releasedate isn't defined you can't operate on it, so you need to check definedness:
[04:32:48] meshe: my $year = $releasedate ? substr($releasedate, 0, 4) : '';
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[05:00:12] sphery: meshe: I have the check for a response before parsing patch ( #6428 ) applied, also, so it adds a lot of lines
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[05:02:39] sphery: so, it looks like we need to better handle a response with <opensearch:totalResults>0</opensearch:totalResults>
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[05:02:56] sphery: perhaps?
[05:06:52] sphery: actually, it couldn't have given that when I ran the search first time--I actually got data
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[06:39:21] floppyears: hi guys
[06:39:24] floppyears: I have 2 tuners
[06:40:23] floppyears: both tuners are connected to the same signal, but using a splitter
[06:41:23] floppyears: can I have one of the tuners only record programs on channels less than a specified number ?
[06:41:25] FR^2: What kind of signal?
[06:41:30] floppyears: analog
[06:41:43] FR^2: satellite?
[06:42:10] floppyears: FR^2: are you referring to my question?
[06:42:50] FR^2: Yes, just want to make sure – I assume you're not talking of a sattelite signal?
[06:42:53] sphery: floppyears: you define what channels are available on an input with a video source
[06:43:15] sphery: floppyears: if you want one tuner to record only one group of channels and the other to record a different group, you need 2 video sources
[06:43:35] sphery: connect the appropriate source to the appropriate input on the appropriate card
[06:45:45] floppyears: thanks sphery
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[06:50:00] floppyears: sphery: would that require 2 online accounts to grab the data ?
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[07:11:52] wagnerrp: why would you want to cripple two tuners like that?
[07:12:45] wagnerrp: floppyears: each SD account is good for four lineups, but you can run two video sources with partials of the same lineup
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[07:35:22] wombo: Hi all I have a problem with optic SPDIF out. From the command line I can run this 'mplayer -ao alsa:device=spdif -ac hwac3 DVD.iso
[07:35:32] wombo: This plays spdif with no probs at all
[07:36:06] wombo: But I cannot get any sound at all from Mythtv (trunk). I have tried by FTA HD and DVD
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[09:11:50] stuarta: morning all
[09:14:07] d00gle: morning
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[09:27:04] rsdvd: Hi All – what is the best way to migrate all your recordings from an old Myth server to a new one?
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[09:38:42] superdump: hey, i'm installing dependencies ready to compile mythtv trunk
[09:39:01] superdump: in ubuntu
[09:39:17] superdump: i'm looking at an old guide that lists stuff for qt3
[09:39:36] superdump: it has an mt lib package, is qt4 inherently multi-threaded?
[09:39:52] superdump: i'm installing qt4 stuff
[09:44:12] superdump: ah
[09:44:21] superdump: just qt4-dev-tools and libqt4-dev
[09:48:48] oobe: superdump there is a really easy way to install all your deps i found the other day
[09:49:13] superdump: go on? (though i'm already installing them)
[09:49:30] superdump: -?
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[09:50:28] oobe: wait a sec i wrote it down somewhere
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[09:50:39] gbee: qt4 has the threading built in, with qt3 it was an afterthough
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[09:51:05] superdump: i suspected as much
[09:51:42] gbee: apt-get install build-deps mythtv-svn (or something)
[09:52:28] oobe: bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-mythtv/mythtv/mythtv-trunk-022
[09:53:15] superdump: --enable-xvmc-opengl enable nVidia XvMC OpenGL texture method
[09:53:16] superdump: hmm
[09:53:20] superdump: i have a 7800GT
[09:53:29] superdump: should i enable that?
[09:54:43] superdump: i'll try a vanilla ./configure first
[09:54:45] superdump: then mess with it
[09:58:22] superdump: compiling...
[09:59:15] sulx: superdump: use vdpau
[09:59:25] superdump: not supported on my card
[09:59:30] sulx: it is
[09:59:30] superdump: only on 8xxx and later
[09:59:34] sulx: not true
[09:59:35] superdump: ...
[09:59:38] superdump: seriously?
[10:00:20] sulx: ah wait...no =)
[10:01:12] superdump: :)
[10:01:13] sulx: my bad
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[10:02:26] superdump: finished compiling
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[10:15:27] rsdvd: can anyone tell me the differences in the database between 0.20 and 0.21.....I am trying to migrate my recordings to a new server and they are not showing up properly
[10:16:18] sid3windr: NOT TRUE!
[10:17:25] rsdvd: sid3windr – what is not true?
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[10:20:05] sid3windr: something else above ;)
[10:20:06] sid3windr: heheh
[10:20:12] sid3windr: I have no clue how to imgrate recordings to the new server
[10:20:18] sid3windr: why not simply import the database and then upgrade it?
[10:22:02] rsdvd: sid3windr – I now have a running 0.21 server......and woudl rather not downgrade it to 0.20 to be able to upgrade again! I think I have worked out most of the changes by hand......now just a matter of FTPing the 1TB of recorded shows :-(
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[10:45:26] gbee: manually messing with the database is a bad idea, bit late now, but it's likely to have many long term consequences
[10:53:05] rsdvd: gbee – I have not had to do much messing – mre cleaning the oringinal data and working out what I need to set up – it was mainly Storage Groups that was screwing me up – they were added since I setup my original server
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[10:59:52] superdump: hmm
[11:00:02] superdump: i seem to remember mention of some setup wizard
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[11:13:08] superdump: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Initia . . . nstall_tasks
[11:13:15] superdump: why are they considered optional?
[11:13:26] superdump: is there some other way of setting up the mythtv user/database?
[11:13:35] superdump: when installing from source
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[11:30:31] gbee: wiki manual is a little messy atm, I believe that's intended to read, "optional and post install tasks"
[11:30:42] gbee: meaning that many of them aren't optional at all
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[12:01:17] rsdvd: Hi All – what filesystem would you recommend for a 2TB storage directory? I the past I have used XFS but Centos does not support this, so if I am going to add it I might aswell as what ever is the best
[12:03:33] slayven: rsdvd: the docs advise against reiserfs, so I currently run jfs w/o problems
[12:03:51] clever: slayven: which docs say dont use reiser?
[12:03:58] rsdvd: are there advantages of jfs over xfs?
[12:04:44] slayven: clever: uhm, its been a while, don't know if I can find it now
[12:04:51] clever: ahh :(
[12:05:18] slayven: clever: found it
[12:05:20] slayven: clever: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html
[12:05:32] slayven: "Filesystems known to have problems with large files are FAT (all versions), and ReiserFS (versions 3 and 4). "
[12:05:40] slayven: "NOTE: You must not use ReiserFS v3 for your recordings. You will get corrupted recordings if you do. "
[12:07:02] ivor: er, who came up with that and is there any detail of what happened?
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[12:07:40] ivor: been using feiser3 with multi-gb files for years.
[12:07:51] ivor: feiser/reiser :)
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[12:09:58] gbee: heh, elsewhere it talks about setting up Reiser partitions
[12:10:08] clever: ive got reiser on a couple file systems but no recording drives yet
[12:10:23] ivor: there was a 4gb reiser bug that was fixed in 2003.
[12:10:29] clever: ahh
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[12:11:14] gbee: ivor: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/7877
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[12:14:13] Testral1: Hello, can help me please someone?
[12:14:19] ivor: gbee: ta.
[12:14:34] Testral1: I have a problem with audio on mythtv
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[12:15:57] ivor: gbee: perhaps someone got burnt with a corruption at some time. the "you must not use" sounds a bit strong though.
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[12:16:17] rsdvd: what advantages does reiser have over jfx/xfs ?
[12:17:54] frogonwheels: rsdvd: apparently faster for small files reiser4 is meant to be better space-wise as well.
[12:18:16] frogonwheels: rsdvd: though I wouldn't touch reiser4 – unstable inho
[12:18:19] frogonwheels: imho
[12:18:34] frogonwheels: rsdvd: look at the filesystem page on wikipedia
[12:18:42] frogonwheels: there's a great comparison table.
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[12:18:53] rsdvd: frogonwheels : so for a recordings partition for Myth then it is no better than xfs? allthe files will be really big
[12:18:54] frogonwheels: .. though in context of mythtv – wouldn't bother with murderfs
[12:18:59] frogonwheels: *reiserfs
[12:19:21] frogonwheels: rsdvd: From what I know, xfs would be the ticket.
[12:20:05] rsdvd: frogonwheels : thanks! sounds a good answer :-) Just installing xfs and then re-formatting my 2.25Tb partition :-(
[12:20:16] frogonwheels: ahh shouldn't take too long :)
[12:20:29] rsdvd: :-) we will see – anyone taking bets
[12:20:57] Testral1: If I with me PCM do not increase change in the volume for anything
[12:21:11] Testral1: sorry for my bad englisch
[12:22:05] frogonwheels: ok. try small sentences.
[12:22:26] frogonwheels: Testral1: what you did. what happened. what you wanted to happen
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[12:24:10] Testral1: PCM does not change the volume with me
[12:24:45] frogonwheels: Testral1: you pressed ] [ on the myth keyboard and the volume didin't change?
[12:25:14] gbee: ivor: it's a question of the speed of deletion vs the speed of recording and the IO strain AFAICT
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[12:25:33] Testral1: F11 and F12 should not steer, I see also the GUI however the sound change
[12:26:02] ivor: gbee: sure, in fact I'm going to switch to xfs for main storage when I rebuild my server.
[12:26:24] ivor: gbee: was just saying the "you must not use" was a bit strong.
[12:27:19] frogonwheels: Testral1: go into the options to select whether volume controls master or PCM.
[12:27:37] ivor: gbee: it's worked well for me for many years with no data loss. the last nasty data loss I had was an ext3 machine.
[12:27:49] Testral1: frogonwheels: in the alsamixer is Front,
[12:28:37] Testral1: PCM hase no funktionally
[12:28:45] frogonwheels: Testral1: then set the volume to control the 'master' volume
[12:28:49] frogonwheels: it's in the settings
[12:29:07] Testral1: okay, I am testing
[12:29:16] frogonwheels: Unfortunately my slave mythtv isn't working. Can somebody else point him at the menu option?
[12:29:38] Testral1: I know the option menu
[12:29:40] frogonwheels: actually, can anybody tell me why I would get no fonts showing on mythtv!? (it's worked)
[12:29:50] frogonwheels: Testral1: phew.
[12:30:07] frogonwheels: .. as in it used to work – upgraded.. doesn't work any more.
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[12:30:53] Testral1: Even if I adjust master, nothing changes
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[12:32:08] Testral1: My system is a Debian Lenny stable and Mythtv SVN
[12:32:16] superdump: newbie question: how do i exit the mythtv-setup program?
[12:32:27] superdump: i tried esc and q but it's neither of those
[12:32:37] superdump: and there's not exit thing in the ui
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[12:35:31] gbee: Ctrl-Esc, Alt-Esc, umm whatever you configured it to
[12:35:49] gbee: you are using trunk, yes?
[12:36:05] superdump: i didn't configure it to anything as far as i know
[12:36:06] superdump: yes
[12:36:19] superdump: neither of your suggestions work
[12:36:47] gbee: run mythfrontend
[12:37:28] sphery: there's a report that it exit only works with some themes, like Terra, but not others, like G.A.N.T
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[12:38:17] superdump: http://pastebin.com/m3c48364d
[12:38:29] superdump: i think it loaded gant
[12:38:42] sphery: G.A.N.T is the default
[12:38:54] sphery: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6480
[12:39:10] sphery: since you're running trunk, you get to debug and patch it :)
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[12:39:54] gbee: sphery: that's bogus, behaviour won't change with theme
[12:40:14] sphery: I haven't played with it.
[12:40:40] sphery: thought maybe it had something to do with broken dialogs (for the exit dialogs--like the ones that say that your SG's are broken or whatever)
[12:41:32] sphery: gbee: could it be that it's just the first time mythtv-setup is run it doesn't work, then it works fine after that (think I remember seeing someone say that, too)
[12:42:07] sphery: i.e. when olejl_ tested it with G.A.N.T, it was the first time he had run it. Then he changed theme, and it worked fine.
[12:43:40] gbee: try this patch – http://pastebin.ca/1400841
[12:44:32] gbee: sphery: quite likely, seems like no fallback default is configured for that setting, running the frontend will populate it though
[12:45:30] sphery: wow... gbee is on top of things--and quick with the patching.
[12:45:39] gbee: http://pastebin.ca/1400842
[12:46:26] superdump: well, i just ctrl-c'ed the process
[12:46:52] sphery: superdump: it's a brand new database, right?
[12:47:10] superdump: also, the channel scan segfaulted so i rolled back to before the merge as i expect you'll take a little time to stabilise it
[12:47:21] superdump: i'll make bug reports if desired
[12:47:36] sphery: superdump: it would be a /very/ big help if you could drop your database, run mc.sql, then test gbee's patch
[12:47:55] superdump: sure
[12:47:57] sphery: superdump: you should try running taskset -c 0 mythtv-setup
[12:48:12] sphery: try http://pastebin.ca/1400842 first, I guess
[12:48:37] sphery: superdump: if you want to keep your current DB , http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Backup_and_Restore
[12:48:50] superdump: i've only just crated it from mc.sql
[12:48:55] superdump: created*
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[12:51:22] sphery: gbee: I convinced a user in here to make a patch for the plugins to work around the lastError() bug in Qt4.5 and he posted it to the already closed #6344 . Should I create a new ticket and upload the patch to that?
[12:53:32] gbee: yeah
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[12:57:29] sphery: gbee: thx, will do
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[13:02:06] gbee: meh, made a right mess of those commits
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[13:03:13] sphery: sometimes progress is ugly... but it's progress, nonetheless :)
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[13:05:09] gbee: doesn't fix the need to use the exit modifier when using mythtv-setup, can't remember if that's a regression or not
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[13:11:07] superdump: so, what about pulseaudio?
[13:11:51] sphery: get rid of it?
[13:12:09] gbee: knife it and leave it's corpse out in the street as an example to all who you try to follow it's example
[13:12:20] gbee: merde
[13:12:30] gbee: s/you/would/
[13:12:36] sphery: gbee: just checked--in 0.21-fixes mythtv-setup does not require the use of the exit key combo used by the frontend... IMHO, not really worth worrying about, though.
[13:13:32] sphery: gbee: did you want to close #6480 (or at least explain what's really happening)
[13:13:36] gbee: sphery: it's fixable, just not sure which of the possibilities is best, I'll take a look at 0.21 to see where the regression occured
[13:14:24] superdump: but ubuntu uses pulseaudio by default, as do a number of other distributions
[13:14:37] gbee: sphery: leave it open, two submitters could be describing different issues, one of which isn't fixed
[13:14:42] superdump: there's no way to use mythtv with pulseaudio running?
[13:15:10] gbee: and I can't be bothered to explain right now, I'd rather just fix it
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[13:15:34] sphery: heh, that makes sense--if you're planning on actually fixing it
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[13:16:08] gbee: superdump: current trunk will attempt to disable pulse without needing to uninstall it, but you'd be doing yourself a favour by getting rid of it ;)
[13:16:52] superdump: do you still want me to try that patch?
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[13:18:24] superdump: gbee: ^
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[13:21:02] sphery: gbee: BTW, in -fixes, you /can/ use Esc to exit, but if you have a different exit key (like Alt+Esc), you can use it, too
[13:21:18] sphery: (for mythtv-setup)
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[13:23:06] wombo: sorry just joined but I can confirm that trunk as of last friday I could not exit myth-setup with the esc key
[13:23:43] sphery: yeah, that happens the first time you run mythtv-setup, but gbee just fixed it
[13:24:22] sphery: after the first time, it should exit properly with the keystroke defined in mythfrontend (Alt+Esc or Ctrl+Esc or Esc or ...)
[13:24:35] wombo: ahh k
[13:24:45] wombo: I think I had to force close today
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[13:36:04] anykey__: sphery: that also fixed a ticket I created then, don't remember the number right now
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[13:37:56] anykey__: sphery: #6480
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[13:39:29] gbee: not quite, bug I fixed affected only brand new installs
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[13:48:25] Nockian: do i only want to have one schedulesdirect source for getting the program guide? i have two mythtv boxes, one has an analog card in it and it's the master backend, the other has an analog card in it and it's the slave backend. if i tell the slave backend to use schedulesdirect as a source for its listings, i get double-listings in the program guide.
[13:49:46] jams: Nockian- only the master backend should have guide data setup.
[13:51:34] Nockian: okay, thanks
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[14:25:44] Quantumstate: Building a seektable for videos no longer works for me. > throws the video into a mad dash for the end, rather than 30 sec forward.
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[15:22:39] JEDIDIAH__: got a general hardware question...
[15:23:40] JEDIDIAH__: got a couple of machines hooked up to UPSes. One handles brownouts and blackouts fine but the other locks up during the power transition. both boxes are on separate UPSes.
[15:24:13] JEDIDIAH__: I wonder if the UPS is the problem or if perhaps I should beef up the power supply.
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[15:39:50] mattmatteh_: JEDIDIAH__, i am not all that familiar with using a ups. i think it all depends on your hardware
[15:40:26] clever: my toshiba laptop would lockup/bluescreen if it was connected to the UPS
[15:40:32] clever: even when the UPS was on 120v ac
[15:41:10] clever: the UPS doesnt have a transition, it is allways doing ac->dc->ac
[15:41:18] clever: so it allways gives 'unclean' power
[15:41:29] mattmatteh_: the closest thing i can think of would be 2 old computers i have, if there is a slight glitch in the power they will reboot.
[15:41:40] mattmatteh_: thats without a ups.
[15:42:27] mattmatteh_: i thought the computer would reboot, not lock up. but maybe the power shortage is short enough that it wasnt enough to reboot it, but also not enough to keep it going
[15:42:51] mattmatteh_: clever, a laptop ?
[15:43:04] mattmatteh_: clever, and doesnt the laptop have a battery ?
[15:43:06] clever: mattmatteh_: yeah, but it was an old 50mhz thing
[15:43:12] clever: the internal battery was allready toast
[15:43:20] mattmatteh_: oh, something ancient ?
[15:43:25] clever: yeah
[15:43:31] clever: b&w screen:P
[15:43:38] mattmatteh_: still works ?
[15:43:50] clever: one of them got soaked in coolaid but the other 2 still work
[15:44:02] mattmatteh_: interesting
[15:44:15] clever: the internal power supply just gives 18v DC
[15:44:41] clever: ive rigged it up with a 12v batery and a half dead(6v at the time) one to get a total of 18, and ran that directly into the mobo
[15:44:47] clever: it powered up for a few seconds
[15:44:58] clever: so i could just run it directly from DC
[15:45:00] mattmatteh_: 18 volts, that seems high, even for old hardware
[15:46:05] sid3windr: new hardware does 19 fyi :p
[15:46:09] JEDIDIAH__: Well, I figured that there shouldn't be any power glitches during a brownout but I have had the same problem recur under roughly identical circumstances, first a brownout and then a total power outtage.
[15:46:43] clever: JEDIDIAH__: power it up to the bios and then rip the cord out of the wall
[15:47:20] mattmatteh_: sid3windr, 19 ? thought the cpu used 1
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[15:47:39] JEDIDIAH__: i will try that approach... couldn't hurt.
[15:48:16] mattmatteh_: JEDIDIAH__, i would guess its the power supply and mainboard. both have power circuits
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[15:51:57] sid3windr: mattmatteh_: 1 what?
[15:54:08] mattmatteh_: sid3windr, 1 volt ( mostly referring to the cpu)
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[15:54:27] sid3windr: I'd check my vcore stats if I were you ;)
[15:54:45] mattmatteh_: sid3windr, i dont think its 19 volts
[15:54:46] sid3windr: also I don't see how voltage of the cpu relates to power supplied to notebook
[15:54:51] sid3windr: no, it's 3.xx usually
[15:54:53] mattmatteh_: oh
[15:55:02] jams: gbee- well stated about multiuser and recommendations
[15:55:14] meshe: sphery: yeah, i did miss that patch, i'll keep mine unpatches for that issue so it matches a svn diff properly
[15:55:15] mattmatteh_: sid3windr, oh, it doesnt. just commenting/rambling
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[16:29:37] plb_: hrm howto auto adjust picture? I just installed ati proprietary drivers and now my picture colors is way off?
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[16:32:00] mattmatteh_: plb_, is it possible that you are calibrating more than once ?
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[16:32:29] mattmatteh_: such that they got cancelled out before, and the ati drivers are correct, and revealing the incorrect  ?
[16:32:34] mattmatteh_: perrhaps with xorg ?
[16:32:43] mattmatteh_: or your display ?
[16:32:50] plb_: don't think so...I played video through mplayer and it's fine
[16:33:19] mattmatteh_: plb_, uhhhhhh
[16:33:29] mattmatteh_: if mplayer works, then what doesnt ?
[16:33:39] mattmatteh_: and what output is mplayer using ?
[16:33:42] plb_: gl
[16:33:55] mattmatteh_: try mplayer -vo vx
[16:34:02] mattmatteh_: err
[16:34:06] mattmatteh_: -vo xv
[16:34:11] plb_: mythtv works but the picture in mythtv the colors are off
[16:34:16] plb_: mplayer is fine
[16:34:39] plb_: but mythtv colors were fine before install ati drivers
[16:34:44] plb_: installing*
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[16:35:22] mattmatteh_: plb_, the idea is to isolate and find the problem. refusing to test with other media players and display methods ( xv| gl) isnt going to help
[16:35:37] mattmatteh_: plb_, would you like me to guess ? and hope i guess right ?
[16:35:39] plb_: both xv and gl work fine in mplayer
[16:35:43] plb_: lol
[16:35:59] plb_: no I just don't understand what you mean..mythtv doesn't use mplayer for playback?
[16:36:18] plb_: but I know there is some sort of hotkey to auto adjust the picture
[16:36:18] mattmatteh_: plb_, thats the idea. compare to another media player
[16:37:03] plb_: I did...mplaye
[16:37:04] plb_: r
[16:37:09] mattmatteh_: plb_, i always use mplayer here. mythtv doesnt really work here yet. so i can not help too much with that.
[16:37:28] mattmatteh_: plb_, i have in the past messed with the color settings for ati and mplayer
[16:38:31] plb_: hmm
[16:38:41] plb_: I know there is a hotkey cause this happened to me before
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[16:46:20] sphery: meshe: yeah, best idea, especially since mine conflicts with your not an array reference patch. When Anduin applies your patch, I'll update mine (or, if I can get a bit of play time, I'll post the updated patch--as I've already merged it for my system--before then so he can apply both at once)
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[16:49:03] rsdvd: Hello all – what is the quickest way to transfer my reocordings (300Gb) from 1 server to another? I cannot physically move the drives as the data is spread over several volumes of an LVM.....and copy over the network seems as though it will take 2 days!
[16:50:12] meshe: update to gigabit ethernet
[16:50:20] meshe: upgrade*
[16:50:25] rsdvd: meshe : it is!
[16:50:38] meshe: and 300Gb is going to take 2 days?
[16:50:58] iamlindoro: You should be getting a gig a minute at *least*
[16:51:09] wagnerrp: if its going to take 2 days to transfer 300GB over the network, your network is broken
[16:51:20] rsdvd: I am transfering just the first 100Gb to start with and it will be 20Hours
[16:51:32] meshe: then you aren't connected at gigabit
[16:51:48] iamlindoro: Heh, or windows/SMB are doing the moving :)
[16:51:54] meshe: what protocol are you using to move them?
[16:51:59] rsdvd: that is waht I am begining to believe......but ethtool shows 1000Mbit on each server
[16:52:03] wagnerrp: thats ~1.5MB/s
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[16:52:29] wagnerrp: thats abysmal even for a 10/100 network
[16:52:34] meshe: which is 10Mb
[16:52:34] rsdvd: meshe : just a drag/drop over ssh.......I know that is not very efficient
[16:52:54] wagnerrp: ssh has no 'drag/drop'
[16:53:03] wagnerrp: unless you mean some GUI sftp client
[16:53:10] rsdvd: wagnerrp : yes
[16:53:16] wagnerrp: why not share it over NFS, and copy?
[16:53:20] meshe: nautilus has scp support
[16:53:33] wagnerrp: or even over samba
[16:53:35] meshe: scp with command line and use -C
[16:53:40] rsdvd: well using nautilus
[16:53:49] wagnerrp: i get ~80MB/s over NFS, and ~55MB/s over samba
[16:54:14] rsdvd: woudl rsync be faster?
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[16:54:34] wagnerrp: ssh itself should be much faster than that
[16:54:39] wagnerrp: what are your processors?
[16:54:39] meshe: rsync will probably use ssh, use scp -C
[16:55:18] wagnerrp: if youre on the network, you dont want to use compression
[16:55:28] wagnerrp: beside the fact that compressed video doesnt compress well anyway
[16:55:32] rsdvd: old server is a Athlon XP 1900+ the new is a Athlon X2 64 5200+
[16:55:40] clever: winscp seems to be horid in cpu usage
[16:55:45] clever: it cant encrypt at 100mbit/sec
[16:55:57] clever: i can go 20–30 times faster with plain FTP
[16:56:08] wagnerrp: the ONLY reason ssh should be running that slow over a properly configured network is if you are lacking CPU power
[16:56:09] clever: which you could try next, less overhead
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[16:56:23] clever: wagnerrp: scp under linux goes 20–30 times faster
[16:56:30] clever: and does the exact same thing, on the same cpu
[16:56:36] wagnerrp: clever: all of the windows ssh implementations tend to be poor performance
[16:56:44] clever: that would explain it
[16:57:40] wagnerrp: anyway, a 1900+ should be able to manage ~25MB/s with the default encryption
[16:57:46] rsdvd: I have swapped to a simple scp and I will see if that is any better....claims to be transfering at 22MB/s
[16:57:53] clever: ftp would still have less network overhead
[16:58:05] wagnerrp: well so would NFS
[16:58:16] wagnerrp: either way, you still have to set up a server
[16:58:20] clever: nfs has checks to see if the file has been modified
[16:58:26] clever: and then whipes the readahead cache
[16:58:36] clever: so streaming a active recording causes massive overhead
[16:58:40] wagnerrp: rsdvd: change the encryption used, ive found arcfour to be the lease intensive
[16:58:51] clever: which is enough to overload my weaker frontends and 802.11b
[16:58:59] wagnerrp: '-c arcfour'
[16:59:17] rsdvd: wagnerrp : would is make much difference?
[16:59:35] wagnerrp: it might put you up over 30MB/s
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[16:59:48] wagnerrp: if youre transferring at 22 with the default protocol
[17:00:02] wagnerrp: assuming it is CPU limited, and not disk limited
[17:00:57] rsdvd: arcfour took it from 22MB/s to 24.5MB/s
[17:01:27] rsdvd: it is not CPU limited – the CPU is showing 90% idle
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[17:02:02] meshe: well, you're getting > 100Mb
[17:02:09] clever: network or disk
[17:02:33] clever: vnstat -l -i eth0
[17:02:41] rsdvd: is there a way to see if the disk is limiting the speed?
[17:03:00] clever: iostat -x 5
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[17:03:28] clever: Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rsec/s wsec/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await svctm %util
[17:03:31] clever: sdd 45.20 7.40 68.20 3.20 5486.40 84.80 78.03 11.21 157.03 3.10 22.16
[17:03:38] clever: my drives are relatively idle atm
[17:03:38] rsdvd: vnstat & iostat both "command not found"
[17:03:49] clever: but when the system is under cripling loads, %util is at 100%
[17:04:00] clever: both need to be installed before use
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[17:06:18] clever: sda 0.00 0.20 110.60 9.00 894.40 73.60 8.09 1.45 12.11 8.14 97.36
[17:06:22] clever: like that
[17:06:33] clever: near full load
[17:07:43] wagnerrp: rsdvd: is that 90% idle on the 5200? or the 1900?
[17:07:56] rsdvd: the 1900
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[17:08:42] rsdvd: teh 5200 is only 25% idle.....cause it is busy with something else aswell......but never less than 25%
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[17:09:32] plb_: Which file contains the setting to go back to qt paint method for appearance? gl is screwed for me and I can't get back into the menu to put it back to qt
[17:09:46] wagnerrp: '-O ThemePainter=qt'
[17:10:04] plb_: thanks
[17:10:26] wagnerrp: there is no 'file' to edit, all settings information is stored in the database
[17:10:32] plb_: ah
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[17:24:24] plb_: arghhh
[17:24:26] plb_: wth
[17:24:39] msphobia: I would like to run multiple mythbackend processes on the same machine with one acting as master and the rest as slaves. Because of my hdpvr I must restart the backend often but do not want my other tuners to go down when I do. Unfortunately, this doesn't work directly since myth seems to pull all the configuration about the backend from the db by hostname. Does anyone know if there is a way to force mythbackend to pull its config by a
[17:24:51] plb_: mythtv was working fine then I reboot I get the black and white static screen but have sound
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[17:25:32] plb_: wth
[17:25:34] plb_: mplayer same thing now
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[17:27:01] plb_: brb
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[17:30:15] Captain_Murdoch: msphobia, you can set an identifier to use instead of the hostname. if you're using a mysql.txt file, you can do it in there, I'm not sure how to do it if you're using the new config method. migth be on the wiki somewhere.
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[17:33:39] msphobia: Captain_Murdoch: Thanks, I will give that a try, I thought that was only for the frontend. As a followup to that then, is there a way to tell mythbackend to look somewhere other than .mythtv/ for mysql.txt?
[17:34:23] clever: msphobia: one method ive seen is to use a diff HOME
[17:34:33] kormoc: there's a pile of locations it looks for, including /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt iirc
[17:34:37] clever: export HOME=/home/mythtv/foo/
[17:34:49] clever: that tricks it into using /home/mythtv/foo/.mythtv/mysql.txt
[17:35:20] msphobia: makes sense, thanks for the help
[17:37:41] abqjp: msphobia, what about the hdpvr results in you having to restart the backend?
[17:39:13] msphobia: it varies, but usually sometime between 1 hour and 72 hours the recording will truncate, the tuner will go offline, and it is irrecoverable until a powercycle and a restart of the backend
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[17:39:22] msphobia: (powercycle of the hdpvr that is)
[17:40:26] msphobia: I was running the hdpvr on a separate slave backend, but that piece of hardware decided to die on me recently, so I'm moving it to my primary server, but I would like to have the flexibility to take the hdpvr backend down independently of my other tuners
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[17:41:15] abqjp: msphobia, "1 hour and 72 hours": 72 hour recording?
[17:41:46] msphobia: abqjp: no, of uptime for the backend, usual mythtv setup, one each recording 30 minutes to an hour
[17:42:20] abqjp: msphobia, janneg identified a limitation of the current hdpvr firmware — it's timestamps reset every 12 hours, which causes the recording to abort at that time.
[17:42:29] abqjp: msphobia, are you using the polltimeout patch?
[17:42:49] abqjp: msphobia, do you have a 1 second sleep at the end of your channel-changer script?
[17:43:43] msphobia: abqjp: no, I have just been using what is in trunk, I actually have not had a chance to look at it in the last couple weeks since that hardware died. I do have a 1 (or maybe longer) second sleep at the end of my channel change script
[17:44:12] abqjp: The polltimeout patch my fix your problem.
[17:44:42] msphobia: abqjp: thanks, that is a good tip, I will give that a shot too
[17:44:48] meshe: msphobia: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/379322
[17:49:27] msphobia: meshe: thanks for the link, the problem does sound very similar, it would be great if I could just go back to one mythbackend process, I will give it a shot, thanks again all
[17:49:48] meshe: no problem
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[18:11:39] Marbug: hi I have mythtv installed and I'm using "Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7134/SAA7135HL Video Broadcast Decoder (rev 01)"
[18:11:46] Marbug: but after more than a month I have no sound
[18:12:02] Dagmar: It takes you that long to read the docs?
[18:12:18] Marbug: I have installed oss, as I had no pcm with alsa but I have yet any sound
[18:12:35] Marbug: nope, I did it more than a month ago but didn't had much time
[18:12:47] Dagmar: So, OSS did you what good exactly then?
[18:12:57] schlazor: Marbug: distro?
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[18:13:05] Marbug: now I check the configuration again with mythtv-setup
[18:13:08] Marbug: gentoo schlazor
[18:13:28] Marbug: Dagmar at least I have pcm now, someone told me oss is better than alsa
[18:13:38] Dagmar: You're listening to idiots.
[18:14:07] schlazor: Marbug: if you like old, crippled technology OSS is super awesome
[18:14:31] schlazor: Marbug: what kind of sound hardware are we talking about?
[18:14:32] Marbug: in the setup > capture cards > audio device is set to /dev/dsp_in (is that right?) it was set to /dev/dsp before but it didn't helped much
[18:14:42] Dagmar: It's entirely wrong
[18:14:48] Marbug: hda-intel
[18:14:52] Dagmar: If you look at the installation docs they tell you what names to use with ASLA
[18:14:57] Marbug: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[18:14:57] Dagmar: s/ASLA/ALSA?
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[18:15:21] Dagmar: So this is a framegrabber card, right?
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[18:15:28] Marbug: yes but as I said, I couldn't get pcm to work with alsa and I don't know why
[18:15:53] Quantum: My seektable rebuild no longer works for videos. Put the video in the dir, scan with VideoManager, then mythcommflag --rebuild --video /home/bill/Videos/infile.mpg ... but with > it screams in fast-forward to the end rather than only 30 seconds.
[18:16:01] Marbug: it captures analogue but it does need to capture the sound as wel right ?
[18:16:13] Dagmar: So switching to another mechanism that is essentially obsolete gives you what advantage
[18:16:59] Dagmar: Read the installation docs and the wiki
[18:17:02] Marbug: oss I had pcm, with alsa it didn't worked ... you need pcm to have any sound
[18:17:02] Dagmar: Your problem is solved there.
[18:17:27] schlazor: Marbug: you rockin an audio patch cable to your sound card or does your capture card handle that for you
[18:17:53] Marbug: I have no audio patch cable connected to the card
[18:17:57] Dagmar: I'm just assuming that by now he'd ahve mentioned it if he'd done that
[18:18:03] Marbug: so I assume the capture card can handle it ?
[18:18:04] Dagmar: That he hasn't done that tells me he's read zero documentation
[18:18:15] schlazor: assuming is a bad idea
[18:18:22] Dagmar: I assume correctly.
[18:18:51] schlazor: Marbug: you should probably sit down with some docs for awhile and try again.
[18:19:09] Marbug: well as I can remember I readed the documentation till 15 or 16 or something almost completely only a part I didn't needed I havent read completely
[18:19:20] Marbug: ok I'll check around then
[18:19:21] Dagmar: Go back and read some more..
[18:20:14] Marbug: till 11 I had read and then a fdfew other interersting things
[18:20:16] schlazor: Marbug: mythtv is a complex solution to a complex problem. it requires a bit of effort. look into a less time consuming distro if you just want it working fast. otherwise read everything you can find
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[18:20:27] schlazor: the wiki is really helpful for hardware specifics
[18:20:54] Dagmar: You can stop talking about how much "effort" you've put into things
[18:21:05] Marbug: I have no other os than this, the main thing is also I'm working with a server which makes it a bit more difficult -_-"
[18:21:06] Dagmar: I had my mercy surgically removed after a bike accident a few years ago
[18:21:47] ** kormoc blinks **
[18:21:48] Dagmar: The operation was a complete success excepting I now have a slight salt deficiency which can only be offset by human tears.
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[18:22:00] schlazor: Dagmar: lol
[18:22:07] kormoc: because a case style makes software harder?
[18:22:29] Dagmar: Seriously how to get a framegrabber card running it's audio through the computer's line input is so documented it's sick
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[18:23:29] schlazor: also, using a framegrabber in 2009 is pretty fantastic
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[18:25:10] plb_: if i have a directory full of channel icons is there anyway I can update
[18:25:12] plb_: er
[18:25:22] plb_: my channel lineup automatically
[18:25:31] plb_: rather than going through 1 by 1 in mythtv-setup
[18:25:34] kormoc: modify the database to point to them?
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[18:25:49] plb_: how do i do that?
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[18:27:10] kormoc: UPDATE channel SET icon=CONCAT('/path/to/icons',callsign,'.jpg') WHERE icon=''; ?
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[18:33:07] gbee: still wondering what lineup has never been submitted by anyone else and which would produce no icon matches
[18:34:27] plb_: mysql> UPDATE channel SET icon=CONCAT('/home/plb/.mythtv/channels',callsign,'.gif') WHERE icon='';
[18:34:31] plb_: ERROR 1046 (3D000): No database selected
[18:34:33] plb_: ?
[18:34:42] psetti1: heh
[18:34:49] plb_: dunno wth im doing lol
[18:34:49] kormoc: USE mythconverg;
[18:35:25] kormoc: and you likely need a / after /channels
[18:35:49] kormoc: and that assumes that your files are named in the same case as the callsign in the database
[18:36:01] plb_: do i have to anything once i do that?
[18:36:08] plb_: Rows matched: 581 Changed: 581 Warnings: 0
[18:36:25] kormoc: likely have to bounce mythfrontend to see the changes
[18:36:47] plb_: bounce?
[18:36:51] kormoc: restart
[18:37:16] plb_: frontend or backend? i just started frontend but didnt see anything
[18:37:54] kormoc: I donno how it works, but can't hurt to bounce the backend
[18:38:12] Quantum: Anyone know about building a seektable?
[18:38:41] plb_: hrm backend did nothing either
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[18:39:24] kormoc: plb_, and you read all the things I said about assumptions and the change needed to be made?
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[18:41:19] plb_: hmm
[18:41:20] plb_: brb
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[18:48:16] iamlindoro: "No, kormoc, I didn't. I'm off to rename 581 icon files."
[18:48:20] iamlindoro: There, got that for him
[18:49:38] iamlindoro: So isn't #6491 invalid PEBKAC?
[18:53:15] kormoc: yes
[18:53:41] kormoc: he even admits it! "I could not make work any of this two can not be a Bug "
[18:53:46] kormoc: can not be a Bug!
[18:54:14] iamlindoro: hehe
[18:54:37] iamlindoro: I'm a little scared of what a "Flayvideo" card is
[18:54:40] iamlindoro: sounds violent
[18:54:53] iamlindoro: Like, you can tune only to those channels playing Hellraiser movies
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[19:10:30] wagnerrp: looks like the 2250 now works with mythtv (at least the digital part)
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[19:18:21] iamlindoro: Yeah, good stuff
[19:18:58] iamlindoro: Hope he gets the permission to release the code soon
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[19:29:33] wagnerrp: dont really have any use for one though
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[19:37:19] plb_: how can I sharpen the image for livetv? I know how to do it in mplayer with unsharp/smartblue..does mythtv have any sort of options like this?
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[19:38:08] J-e-f-f-A: iamlindoro: Humm... 2250 is about the same price as a HDHomeRun... I'd probably just go for a 2nd HDHR myself... ;-)
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[19:38:37] J-e-f-f-A: plb_: Maybe raise the capture resolution and/or bitrate of the recording?
[19:39:15] iamlindoro: J-e-f-f-A: Think you can get one for like 90 bucks?
[19:39:37] J-e-f-f-A: iamlindoro: the 2250? really? Where?  ;-)
[19:39:39] iamlindoro: J-e-f-f-A: Have seen the 2250s < 100
[19:39:56] J-e-f-f-A: wow, didn't know that.. .just did some quick searches...
[19:39:59] iamlindoro: Right now I'm only seeing $111, but have seen as low as 90
[19:40:07] plb_: J-e-f-f-A: are you referring to "Current video playback profile" in the setting>playback menu?
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[19:40:28] J-e-f-f-A: plb_: No – the Live TV recording profile.
[19:41:01] Niklas_E: is there any settings to stream the tvshow you recorded and want to watch from mythweb?
[19:41:30] ** Niklas_E only get some internal error when clicking on asx or the other link **
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[19:41:44] plb_: ah
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[19:42:58] plb_: Image size is at 720x480 should I put it at my monitor resolution?
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[19:43:50] J-e-f-f-A: plb_: No, that's pretty high for SD. Actually higher than the quality of the signal coming in...
[19:44:03] plb_: ah
[19:44:13] J-e-f-f-A: plb_: Maybe try a different deinterlacer?
[19:44:44] plb_: where's that option?
[19:44:51] plb_: I don't see it under livetv
[19:45:07] ** iamlindoro suggests asking whether the source is digital or analog **
[19:45:43] plb_: analog but the picture looks much crisper in mplayer with unsharp/smartblur filters
[19:45:49] plb_: sharper rather
[19:46:49] iamlindoro: Could use the filter dialog in playback profiles
[19:47:05] iamlindoro: not that I ever have, but IIRC can apply all the lavf filters you like
[19:47:26] iamlindoro: denoise, crop, etc.
[19:47:47] plb_: hm what's stream type option in playback profiles?
[19:49:06] iamlindoro: stream type option?
[19:49:32] plb_: ya some options it says mpeg ts dvd-special etc
[19:50:05] iamlindoro: I don't think you are where you think you are
[19:50:11] iamlindoro: as none of that sounds like playback profiles
[19:51:17] plb_: hm
[19:51:20] iamlindoro: Where are you getting your myth?
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[19:52:00] plb_: I got it from debian-multimedia
[19:52:04] ** meshe chuckles "but the is some crazy **
[19:52:04] meshe: guy out there with an unofficial backport of the vdpau patches. I can't
[19:52:04] meshe: vouch for whether that fork will reduce your computer to a blackened
[19:52:07] meshe: ball of molten metal or not, but it is out there."
[19:53:51] J-e-f-f-A: meshe: ha!
[19:54:19] clever: just comment out the line that mentions thermite
[19:54:42] clever: and dont let it rust, whatever you do
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[19:57:40] ** kormoc laughs **
[19:58:39] meshe: attribution: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/379771#379771
[20:00:43] iamlindoro: The best line of the last week has to be when JYA advises someone not to do some hack because "IMO, it defeats the purpose of running the stable release"
[20:01:07] meshe: nice
[20:01:21] jams: wasn't that about pulse audio?
[20:01:54] iamlindoro: IIRc, yeah
[20:02:27] iamlindoro: http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-dev/2009-April/065067.html
[20:02:47] iamlindoro: "The pulseaudio change was backported to 0.21-fixes in revision #20425. So for many, those that had a nice and stable box will suddenly found that it won't start anymore. It kind of looses the purpose of running 0.21-fix"
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[20:03:27] iamlindoro: To which I wrote a response that read, "HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA..... *sniff* ha.... HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHA"
[20:03:32] iamlindoro: but did not send
[20:04:01] GreyFoxx: Yeah I thought it was cute
[20:04:12] iamlindoro: Guess the devs don't understand that only he is allowed to backport things
[20:05:33] gbee: oh that was golden, priceless
[20:06:27] jams: so i just listened to a voicemail that was computer generated. Seems my middle name is now "the one thousandth" instead of the initial M
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[20:06:44] meshe: hahaha
[20:07:27] gbee: heh
[20:07:42] meshe: that puts your family back 10,000–20,000 years :)
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[20:08:36] jams: thats a first for me in the category of "ways to screw up a name"
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[20:09:58] meshe: people always screw up my last name, and it's 5 characters, and it's the last name of a vice president And they make fun of that vice president on Futurama
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[20:10:37] iamlindoro: Spirooooooo
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[20:11:20] meshe: should just switch to my married name
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[20:15:08] jams: had a friend whose last name was zirka, she always complained about how that put her towards the bottom of any list. She always joked about wanting to marry to change that. She did end up finding that special person and changed her name. Her new last name is Yoo.
[20:15:27] meshe: lol
[20:16:06] meshe: my husbands last name is Trusty
[20:16:07] jams: her plans were denied, but at least she jokes about it
[20:16:27] ** kormoc wonders if Mr. Trusty is trust-worthy **
[20:16:38] meshe: wouldn't have married him otherwise
[20:18:27] J-e-f-f-A: jams: Reminds me of a co-worker who's last name was "debettencourt" – I told her, "You need to marry somebody with a nice,short last name. Somebody like me, for example..."  ;-)
[20:18:40] J-e-f-f-A: Unfortunately it didn't work... :-(
[20:18:51] laga: sexual harassment suit FTW ;)
[20:18:55] meshe: hopefully you at least got a laugh out of her
[20:19:42] J-e-f-f-A: laga: hehe.. Yeah, that was like 15 years ago... She did laugh... ;-)
[20:19:59] clever: J-e-f-f-A: try this one, 'does this rag smell like clorophorm'
[20:20:02] J-e-f-f-A: meshe: (but not TOO hard, thankfully)
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[20:20:25] ** J-e-f-f-A is scared by clever... **
[20:20:26] laga: clever: ++
[20:20:29] meshe: J-e-f-f-A: sorry, but cheezy lines like that deserve a laugh :)
[20:20:34] iamlindoro: clever: But enough stories about your conception
[20:20:46] ** J-e-f-f-A is ROTFL **
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[20:21:18] laga: hahaha
[20:21:22] clever: http://www.tshirthell.com/funny-shirts/are-you-my-daddy/
[20:21:26] wagnerrp: clorophorm?
[20:21:54] meshe: something to knock you out with
[20:22:11] clever: i think i forgot an h
[20:22:41] iamlindoro: Chloroform
[20:22:58] clever: so i did forget an h, and an f
[20:23:18] Marbug: saa7133[0]: registered device dsp1 <-- do I need that in dmesg to have sound?
[20:23:35] Marbug: or is that something which isn't needed ?
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[21:30:00] Essobi: Afternoon all.
[21:30:54] laga: night Essobi
[21:31:18] Essobi: ... G'night!
[21:31:19] Essobi: heh..
[21:31:42] Essobi: Anyone hacked on the Playstation3 bluetooth remote lately?
[21:32:57] Essobi: The wiki docs look rather incomplete and half-baked..
[21:34:22] iamlindoro: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Sony_PS3_BD_Remote
[21:34:35] iamlindoro: If that's half baked to you, I'd hate to hear what we'd have to do to be called "complete"
[21:35:00] iamlindoro: Maybe give you a pony at the end or something
[21:37:47] kormoc: iamlindoro, it doesn't even try to give out ponies... not even a drawing or a picture! hrmpf!
[21:38:09] ** iamlindoro sets fire to the wiki **
[21:38:18] iamlindoro: You're fully baked now, mother effer!
[21:43:41] Essobi: iamlindoro: there's 3 solutions on it.. the first is explicitly an example of a PS3 capture program wrote in python (it doesn't control myth or lirc at all.. just an example capture program).. then you read the rest of the reviews and the other two programs lack the capability of pairing the device (which appearently hidd can't do either, only the example python program)....
[21:43:49] Essobi: So... yea... It's kinda half-assed.
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[21:44:53] Essobi: *SHRUG* I'm tempted to learn python just so I can hack the original one into something functional.
[21:44:56] iamlindoro: bdremoted not only pairs with the remote, but the page gives explicit, step by step instructions on DOING so
[21:45:16] iamlindoro: So... yeah... your reading is kind of half assed
[21:46:13] iamlindoro: But please, by all means, learn python and give us a fourth implemention
[21:46:25] Essobi: iamlindoro: Umm. Wow you're an Asshole.
[21:46:26] Essobi: :)
[21:46:42] ** kormoc blinks **
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[21:47:00] ** iamlindoro yawns **
[21:47:00] Essobi: And go read the comments on that Wiki page.. the general consensus is, it doesn't work.
[21:47:24] Essobi: "Some people may need to pair the remote each time the computer boots. "
[21:47:32] kormoc: Personally, I'm getting really tired of all the talk about man-ass in here...
[21:47:37] Essobi: "However, that did not work for me. Instead, I downloaded cakemote.py, edited it and entered my remote's hardware address, run it and hold start+enter on the remote. This has successfully paired the remote every time for me. irw should now print output when you press keys on the remote."
[21:47:51] iamlindoro: "I got the remote permanently paired with my computer, so I don't have to hold down start+enter each time the computer boots anymore. The only problem is, I don't know exactly how I got it working."
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[21:47:58] iamlindoro: Yep, sounds like a well informed bunch to me!
[21:48:04] iamlindoro: I did a thing and now the thingie works!
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[21:48:40] Essobi: kormoc: *SHRUG* I just asked if anyone had worked on it recently, and commented about how the programs seem to be in dev cycle still, and the wiki is riddled with comments of none of them working properly.
[21:49:18] Essobi: iamlindoro: Well that "well informed" bunch wrote the wiki page you got upset over me calling half-baked.
[21:49:44] iamlindoro: erm... the people discussing it are *not* those that wrote the page
[21:50:01] Essobi: Those two quotes on ON THE PAGE not the discussion page.
[21:50:03] Essobi: ...
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[21:50:14] gbee: History
[21:50:25] kormoc: ugh
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[21:50:36] kormoc: this topic isn't going to go anywhere
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[21:51:55] Essobi: Anyways... Just asking. I've got a shiny new Playstation3 bluetooth remote, that I'll undoubtably have to hack one of those 3 projects into shape for.
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[21:52:46] Essobi: So far as I can tell.. the python example that echos back the keypresses are the only one to work thus far..
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[22:30:30] Quantum: Andone know rebuilding seektables in-depth?
[22:32:59] kormoc: Noone is gonna answer that
[22:33:14] tank-man: I'll answer
[22:33:25] tank-man: No, I do not know about rebuilding seektables in depth
[22:34:44] Dagmar: Mainly you run the script that rebuilds them and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck
[22:34:48] Quantum: Well, I've asked my question in detail several times and got no response. I don't know what else to do.
[22:35:08] iamlindoro: Asking it in *less* detail doesn't seem like a step in the right direction
[22:35:08] Dagmar: Maybe fix your mysql tables
[22:35:18] kormoc: I've only seen you ask "Andone know rebuilding seektables in-depth?" a few times
[22:35:26] Dagmar: Either the seektables will be repairable or something is wrong with your database or the _media_
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[22:35:37] iamlindoro: I'm losing this race, better run slower!
[22:35:54] Quantum: Ya, fixed and optimized. The script runs fine, but when > the video just screams to the end rather than 30 seconds.
[22:36:08] kormoc: Least he didn't post a email with a subject designed to instill FUD
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[22:36:24] iamlindoro: kormoc, MythTV devs KNOW seektable rebuilding broken and won't fix?
[22:36:28] iamlindoro: ;)
[22:36:29] Quantum: Seek works fine with all older videos. Just not ones I've set up in the past week.
[22:36:31] meshe: COMCAST is after mythtv!!!
[22:38:02] meshe: Quantum: what version of myth are you using?
[22:38:47] Quantum: fixes 20436
[22:39:10] meshe: what type of file are you trying to build the seektable for?
[22:39:51] Quantum: Using avidemux to transcode ATSC mpeg2 files to H.264/AVC in mkv. Archiving videos.
[22:39:58] Dagmar: lol
[22:40:20] Dagmar: So there's a good chance that nothing will be able to build a seektable because the videos are just cooked.
[22:40:35] Quantum: This is my procedure: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1140289
[22:40:49] Quantum: Videos play just fine.
[22:41:10] Quantum: ... and are 1/10th the former size.
[22:41:14] Dagmar: This is ours http://www.mythtv.orc/svn/somerandomnonsense
[22:41:39] Dagmar: You can always file a bug that seektables can't be created for media not recorded by MythTV and see how far you get with it
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[22:42:32] Quantum: I put it in the forum and even posted a 1 min clip on archive. Suppose a bug would survive more than an hour>
[22:42:32] iamlindoro: Quantum, I would advice you to try a stream copy with one of your mkv files using ffmpeg
[22:42:50] iamlindoro: Quantum, something like: ffmpeg -i infile.mkv -acodec copy -vcodec copy outfile.mkv
[22:43:12] iamlindoro: almost everything muxing MKV, and especially Avidemux, creates slightly broken files
[22:43:19] Quantum: Would that 'clean' the stream, per se?
[22:43:24] Dagmar: In theory
[22:43:33] iamlindoro: usually a straight stream copy using ffmpeg does the trick and it beomces seekable (no seektable required)
[22:43:51] Quantum: I'll try it...
[22:44:25] meshe: i know that my dvd rips to mp4 from AnyDVD mobile don't work well with --rebuild
[22:46:03] Quantum: 70s-2000.mkv: Unknown format
[22:46:46] iamlindoro: sounds like a broken container to me (or, I suppose, very ancient ffmpeg)
[22:47:02] gbee: ffmpeg --version
[22:47:19] kormoc: 18850404
[22:47:19] Quantum: ffmpeg is Debian 0.5.svn20090414–0.0
[22:47:36] kormoc: drat, missed my guess by a few hundred years
[22:47:49] kormoc: could have been compiled without mkv support
[22:47:51] iamlindoro: kormoc, but not bad on month and day :)
[22:48:00] iamlindoro: kormoc, Shouldn't be possible, libavformat has its own now
[22:48:11] kormoc: well then
[22:48:17] gbee: Quantum: configuration args in the version output?
[22:48:21] iamlindoro: although it's possible it was compiled without --enable-gpl, I guess
[22:48:35] iamlindoro: which would make it crazy/useless/etc.
[22:48:35] gbee: iamlindoro: well I believe various encoders/decoders can still be disabled
[22:48:39] iamlindoro: yeah
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[22:48:54] Quantum: configuration: --prefix=/usr --extra-cflags='-Wall -g ' --cc='ccache cc' --libdir=${prefix}/lib --shlibdir=${prefix}/lib --bindir=${prefix}/bin --incdir=${prefix}/include/ffmpeg --enable-shared --enable-libmp3lame --enable-gpl --enable-libfaad --mandir=${prefix}/share/man --enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads --enable-libfaac --enable-libxvid --enable-postproc --enable-libamr-nb --enable-libamr-wb --enable-x11grab --enable-libgsm
[22:48:55] Quantum: --enable-libx264 --enable-libtheora --enable-libdc1394 --enable-nonfree --disable-stripping --enable-avfilter --enable-libdirac --disable-decoder=libdirac --enable-libschroedinger --disable-encoder=libschroedinger --enable-libspeex --enable-avfilter-lavf --disable-altivec --disable-armv5te --disable-armv6 --disable-vis
[22:48:59] iamlindoro: good times
[22:49:51] iamlindoro: Quantum, is 70s-2000.mkv your infil or your outfile?
[22:49:55] iamlindoro: infile, that is
[22:50:21] gbee: ffmpeg -i {filename} what streams/container does it actually think it is?
[22:50:26] Quantum: I don't see mkv there. It's in. Out is *-2.mkv
[22:51:06] Quantum: 70s-2000.mkv: Unknown format
[22:51:20] iamlindoro: so that file is busted as far as ffmpeg is concerned
[22:51:42] Quantum: Weird. It plays fine in Myth & VLC.
[22:51:57] kormoc: I thought the problem was that it didn't play fine in Myth?
[22:52:03] gbee: so ffmpeg 0.5 is busted ;)
[22:52:09] Quantum: Nah, won't index.
[22:52:23] ** meshe closes ticket "rejected" **
[22:52:28] gbee: plays, but no seeking
[22:52:52] Quantum: Right, > sends it screaming all the way to the end.
[22:53:24] Quantum: Always have VideoManager scan the dir, then rebuild seektable, then play.
[22:53:47] iamlindoro: Many/most formats don't require a seektable
[22:55:16] gbee: arguably many do because their own built in seektables are rubbish :) not many container seektables are close to being frame accurate in my experience
[22:55:43] iamlindoro: gbee, Frame accuracy maybe not, usable accuracy certainly
[22:56:25] Quantum: Apparently not mkv.
[22:56:33] iamlindoro: cn't blame that container, mkv is fine
[22:56:37] Quantum: At least Myth is not compatible with it.
[22:56:41] iamlindoro: it's your application that is busted
[22:56:52] iamlindoro: Myth is *perfectly* compatible with properly muxed MKV
[22:56:53] Quantum: avidemux? Superb.
[22:57:01] ** kormoc blinks **
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[22:57:15] kormoc: Myth doesn't mind my mkv files without seektables being built
[22:58:45] Quantum: I'll try one without building the seektable.
[22:59:51] Quantum: Holy crud, it works!
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[23:00:01] Quantum: Building a seektable messes me up.
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[23:05:07] Quantum: So this is a mythcommflag problem, fyi.
[23:05:24] meshe: *blink*
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[23:07:36] Quantum: OK thanks ppls.
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[23:08:13] ** iamlindoro got about halfway through the explanation about how mythcommflag isn't supposed to seektable any old thing **
[23:09:36] meshe: if it works without building a seektable, what exactly is the problem with mythcommflag?
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[23:15:35] iamlindoro: Not idiot proof enough :)
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