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| [00:00:07] | RDV_Linux: | I did get mythvideo to successfully download posters and fanart to day after make the URL change. |
| [00:00:08] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, changed it back myself here, but I suspect I'm ending up with a .jpg that's actually a text file of the redirect |
| [00:00:29] | RDV_Linux: | YES it is open with a text editor |
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| [00:00:56] | iamlindoro: | needs to be a better way to handle this |
| [00:01:09] | iamlindoro: | I have things pretty much working, but appending the nyud.net stuff probably isn't going to work |
| [00:01:20] | sid3windr: | rofl @ #6369 |
| [00:01:42] | RDV_Linux: | I would be curious to know what URL is inside of your .jpg |
| [00:02:28] | iamlindoro: | It's the NYUD one, hang on, testing |
| [00:02:43] | iamlindoro: | still, though, we need a way that doesn't need to get updated every time they change mirrors |
| [00:03:07] | iamlindoro: | There, got it this time |
| [00:03:15] | iamlindoro: | lovely :) |
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| [00:03:35] | iamlindoro: | ok, have tmdb.pl working for movies and tvdb.py working for anything TV... not half bad for an hour's work :) |
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| [00:04:09] | sphery: | iamlindoro: what about made-for-tv movies? :) |
| [00:04:14] | RDV_Linux: | What was the original problem with the download and why did it go away. |
| [00:04:46] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, haven't the foggiest, would need to delve deeper and find the redirect flag in httpcomms |
| [00:05:09] | RDV_Linux: | Did the Castle not found issue go away also? |
| [00:05:09] | iamlindoro: | likely/possible that mythvideo times out quick, and my local DNS wasn't fast enough for a slow caching site |
| [00:06:16] | sphery: | iamlindoro: is this the tmdb.xml does not exist error (or something like that)? I'm pretty sure that one's caused by getting no response from the server, for example because name-resolution timeout |
| [00:06:18] | RDV_Linux: | So far the outstanding issue seems to be the way I am handling series not found. What would you prefer? |
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| [00:06:36] | iamlindoro: | sphery, no, this is working with RDV_Linux's TTVDB script |
| [00:06:53] | sphery: | oh, sorry for the noise, then |
| [00:06:54] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, I'm not sure yet... let me play with it/think about it for a day |
| [00:07:02] | RDV_Linux: | np |
| [00:07:13] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, In the short term I'd like to make this patch make sense so that you can apply and play |
| [00:07:45] | RDV_Linux: | Sounds good, now back to watching a recording. |
| [00:08:05] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, very nice work, should have some stuff for you to play with in an hour or two |
| [00:08:15] | iamlindoro: | just need to goof with the UI part |
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| [00:10:51] | RDV_Linux: | Standing by. |
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| [00:40:59] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6346#comment:6 |
| [00:41:28] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, Apply both patches, with your scripts in the scripts dir, set season and episode numbers in Edit Metadata, and your script should work perfectly |
| [00:41:45] | iamlindoro: | (and automatically, I might add, while still being able to use tmdb.pl for movies :) |
| [00:42:12] | iamlindoro: | you'll want to set your scripts in the Movie portion of the settings back to tmdb, as the ttvdb.py ones are now set on the new page (Page 8) |
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| [00:47:40] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, You *may* need to edit whatever theme you are using, however, as title/subtitle/season/episode are all seperate fields now-- let me know which you use and I can hack something together for it |
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| [00:48:57] | ToHellWithGA: | one of my buddies has a capture card which can capture basic cable channels as well as HD channels for local stations |
| [00:49:12] | ToHellWithGA: | i was given the impression that HD capture had to be analog |
| [00:49:24] | ToHellWithGA: | is that not the case? |
| [00:49:33] | RDV_Linux: | Ok I just saw this post. Need to do some reading first to fully understand what you wrote and what it means. I will be back at you if I need any words of wisdom. |
| [00:49:39] | iamlindoro: | Only for capture from a Set Top Box. unencrypted digital can be captured with a QAM tuner |
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| [00:50:07] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, okay, should be as simple as apply both patches, compile-- though some info might be invisible to you until I fix your theme-- which are you using? |
| [00:51:23] | ToHellWithGA: | iamlindoro: if i have a set-top box then will i need to hack something together similar to TiVo's IR channel changer doohickey? |
| [00:52:10] | iamlindoro: | ToHellWithGA, If you have a Set top box then there is only one device which can capture from it in linux/myth (the Hauppauge HD-PVR), which does not work in the currently-released version of myth, only in the dev branch. And yes, you'd need to change channels via IR blaster or if possible, firewire |
| [00:52:37] | GreyFoxx: | So, at some point the video scan will auto parse the filename to get he season.episode for the most common filenaming types ? |
| [00:52:41] | ToHellWithGA: | my folks have a disused TiVo box but i figured a majority of its hardware would be secretive and impossible to use with anything but TiVo's software |
| [00:52:47] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, already does w/ my patch :) |
| [00:52:53] | GreyFoxx: | a couple simple regexps would parse them out |
| [00:52:54] | GreyFoxx: | cool |
| [00:52:56] | RDV_Linux: | I use Mythcenter (widescreen) |
| [00:53:11] | GreyFoxx: | does it update only new items added or go back nd fill in previously scanned stuff ? |
| [00:53:37] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, only import, for existing stuff you could write some quick SQL to do it-- I did it in about 5 mintues to break out subtitle, season, and ep |
| [00:53:54] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, as each person will have a different naming scheme, doing it automatically is asking for pain IMO |
| [00:54:18] | GreyFoxx: | yeah but some easy guesses couple be made |
| [00:54:21] | ToHellWithGA: | iamlindoro: does HD recording from encrypted channels work on platforms other than linux? |
| [00:54:23] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, for me I did update videometadata set season = 1 where title like %1x%; etc |
| [00:54:46] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, and update videometadata set episode = 1 where title like %x01%; etc |
| [00:54:47] | GreyFoxx: | I can whip off the perl to parse/update the DB in acouple minutes |
| [00:54:57] | GreyFoxx: | I already have one that does just that for renaming files enmass |
| [00:55:05] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, I think that would be best for contrib (keep the responsibility on them) |
| [00:55:14] | iamlindoro: | (IMO) |
| [00:55:36] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, I do encourage you to play with the patches, though, it'd be nice to have someone use them before commit for once :) |
| [00:55:54] | GreyFoxx: | I might play ith them tomorrow morning before work |
| [00:56:11] | GreyFoxx: | it's easier fo rme to break stuff at that time of day since normally I'm the only one using it |
| [00:56:11] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, will throw together something for mythcenter-wide real quick |
| [00:56:39] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, With any luck you won't be breaking anything, but for testing purposes I'll try to hack up some patches for Mythcenter and terra tonight so that you can see the info |
| [00:57:20] | GreyFoxx: | mythcenter-wide is what I currently use so if you do them for RDV I'll use that |
| [00:57:25] | iamlindoro: | ok |
| [00:57:32] | iamlindoro: | should have something together in a few mintues, anyway |
| [00:58:08] | iamlindoro: | although it's using the default-wide video-ui.xml at this point IIRC |
| [00:58:19] | ** GreyFoxx puts his kid in the tub ** | |
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| [01:13:09] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, GreyFoxx: default-wide theme changes added, these go on top of the other two patches |
| [01:14:35] | iamlindoro: | Want to go on record as saying I have no idea how you can live with the default mythvideo screen |
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| [01:16:09] | iamlindoro: | will add a little patche for Terra's browse view if you're interested in non-yuck :) |
| [01:16:10] | RDV_Linux: | Your timing is impeccable I was about to hit enter on a recompile. Also if I had one of your alternative fancy themes I would be using that. I already added and extra gig of memory in anticipation. |
| [01:16:47] | iamlindoro: | Heh, well I still don't have everything figured out for this stuff in my own, but I do enjoy it more than the default :) |
| [01:17:11] | iamlindoro: | give me five minutes and I'll patch up Terra so you can see that the fanart/etc. download works |
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| [01:24:07] | iamlindoro: | okay, terra patched |
| [01:24:39] | iamlindoro: | browse view only |
| [01:25:31] | RDV_Linux: | I think you are having way too much fun;-) |
| [01:26:04] | iamlindoro: | I like ti when it all comes together |
| [01:27:11] | iamlindoro: | http://www.fecitfacta.com/terra.png |
| [01:27:21] | iamlindoro: | That's about what you should end up with.. (gbee ^^^) |
| [01:30:16] | iamlindoro: | gah, didn't realize he kept user ratings there... oh well, blah, he can fix it if it gets committed :) |
| [01:33:26] | iamlindoro: | It's nice to have user ratings for TV :) |
| [01:33:54] | iamlindoro: | plus if this stuff gets committed I should be able to figure out a way to hook it in to the Watch Recordings fanart/etc. support |
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| [01:36:11] | daimoh: | so.. has anyone tried the new core2 duo mac mini as a myth FE ? |
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| [01:42:12] | RDV_Linux: | iamlindoro: Patched, compiled and tested, Works like a charm. I need to try the patched terra now. Thanks a lot. |
| [01:42:34] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, Glad to hear it!! (a relief, too, you never know until someone else tries) Thanks |
| [01:42:43] | clever: | my livetv is broken! |
| [01:42:47] | RDV_Linux: | Tell me about it. |
| [01:43:15] | clever: | 2009-03–17 22:43:08.499 TV Error: HandleStateChange(): LiveTV not successfully started |
| [01:43:22] | clever: | 2009-03–17 22:43:08.498 EntryToProgram(0@Wed Dec 31 20:00:00 1969) failed to get pginfo |
| [01:43:28] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, can take a tiny bit to get the data massaged right, but I much prefer it this way :) |
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| [01:44:25] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, Bear in mind that in M->Filter Display there is the Sort by: Season/Episode that you may want to use |
| [01:44:40] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, will make display order of TV actually make proper sense |
| [01:46:38] | RDV_Linux: | I never tried that. Will check it out. |
| [01:47:19] | iamlindoro: | well that will be once you have all the seasons/episodes set of course |
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| [01:54:19] | GreyFoxx: | "can live with the default mythvideo screen" Whcih are you referring to? The List ?(my default) |
| [01:54:29] | GreyFoxx: | I update the xml to fill thescreen :) |
| [01:54:39] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, any of the views, they're all ewwwwwwww |
| [01:55:17] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, you should be able to figure out spots for textareas where you like them, then |
| [01:55:45] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, they're called "subtitle," "season," "episode," "s##e#" and "##x##" |
| [01:55:50] | iamlindoro: | what they are is obvious |
| [01:56:24] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, XL1B came in today, was cracked to pieces, buttons smashed in the front |
| [01:56:29] | GreyFoxx: | :( |
| [01:56:32] | GreyFoxx: | ouch |
| [01:56:38] | GreyFoxx: | was the box it cam ein damaged too ? |
| [01:56:42] | iamlindoro: | immediately turned it around for a return, but frustrating |
| [01:56:43] | GreyFoxx: | Or just the unit in the box |
| [01:56:47] | GreyFoxx: | yeah :/ |
| [01:56:54] | iamlindoro: | it was a tiny bit crumpled but IMO too little crumple for that damage |
| [01:57:07] | iamlindoro: | had tohave been dropped |
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| [01:57:17] | iamlindoro: | all the retaining clips of the front panel were sheared off |
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| [01:57:52] | iamlindoro: | So now 5 days back, ?? days turnaround, and 5 days back to me.. sigh |
| [01:59:47] | nrpil: | |
| [02:00:14] | GreyFoxx: | that sucks dude €:/ |
| [02:05:11] | nrpil: | n999999mnueezzxiughigghjgjmnbmjhgjhg hjnklml |
| [02:05:46] | iamlindoro: | bad kitty |
| [02:06:51] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, I'd feel worse if throng of people were testing support for it :) |
| [02:06:54] | iamlindoro: | er throngs |
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| [02:19:53] | chrisla23: | anyone using the frontend network control port (esp on 0.22)? |
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| [02:28:45] | Dagmar: | Not only does 0.22 not exist, it's unsupported. |
| [02:28:50] | Dagmar: | Have a nice day and thanks for playing! |
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| [02:29:15] | Shadow__X: | i wanna play |
| [02:29:17] | Shadow__X: | how do i enter |
| [02:30:10] | iamlindoro: | The only way to win is not to play |
| [02:30:21] | Shadow__X: | so i dont want to play |
| [02:30:27] | chrisla23: | If no one is testing the next version how will bugs be found? |
| [02:30:27] | Shadow__X: | being that i want to win |
| [02:31:13] | iamlindoro: | chrisla23, dagmar is letting you know that even though the version has been bumped, we refer to trunk as "trunk" and not .22 (as that represents a future release) |
| [02:31:32] | chrisla23: | ah ok |
| [02:31:48] | iamlindoro: | but anyway, you probably ought to ask your question rather than waiting for volunteers as that is dicey around here |
| [02:32:04] | chrisla23: | I am not even positive if my problem is 0.22/trunk related. |
| [02:32:06] | iamlindoro: | just assume that the answer to "is anyone/has anyone/does anyone have is always yes, and move on from there |
| [02:32:22] | Shadow__X: | hi everyone |
| [02:32:28] | chrisla23: | I am finding that if I connect, use the network control port as normal and exit, all is well. |
| [02:32:31] | Shadow__X: | sorry to bother but can i ask someone a question |
| [02:32:34] | Shadow__X: | shouldnt be too hard |
| [02:32:52] | chrisla23: | If I connect, do stuff, cut off the connection, the next time I connect the frontend will crash. |
| [02:33:13] | iamlindoro: | that's a known, but I had thought that was fixed |
| [02:33:18] | chrisla23: | In one php remote script I found it was written with out the "exit" |
| [02:33:19] | iamlindoro: | if your checkout is quite old you should update |
| [02:33:46] | chrisla23: | cool, if it's a known thing sounds like it would be worth trying an update. |
| [02:35:28] | iamlindoro: | I feel like it was fixed quite a long time ago, so your checkout would have to be quite old |
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| [02:36:41] | leop18: | when I watch HDTV the cpu usage jumps to 49%? |
| [02:37:02] | leop18: | but SDTV it goes down to 19% |
| [02:37:06] | iamlindoro: | leop18, Depending on processor/GPU/etc. that is entirely reasonable |
| [02:37:08] | chrisla23: | it is, I'm running on an appletv so once I got it stable (hacked the ATV before the nice gui tools / big hassle) I have not touched it. |
| [02:38:05] | leop18: | P4 3Ghz with 2GB Ram VGA Geforce FX5200 |
| [02:38:37] | iamlindoro: | hahahah |
| [02:38:46] | iamlindoro: | you are *lucky* if you are only getting 49% with that POS |
| [02:39:07] | leop18: | Well then that's good hey |
| [02:39:10] | leop18: | :) |
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| [02:39:42] | iamlindoro: | heh, yep :) |
| [02:41:05] | leop18: | Now as I understand I won't be needing any deinterlacing with non LCD or Plasma Tv correct |
| [02:42:40] | leop18: | so which playback profile would be best to use? |
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| [02:50:20] | RDV_Linux: | iamlindora: Been playing around with the patched Terra theme and it is getting sweet with all the fancy artwork. Thanks to both you and gbee. |
| [02:51:27] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, No problem, it's very satisfying to hear that it's working without too much of a hitch (although the subtitle text area needs to get moved a tiny bit, but oh well, theme authors can do that when/if if gets committed, hope it does) |
| [02:51:51] | RDV_Linux: | Sometimes when updating does not seem to work as expected I reset the meta data and try the download again. That usually fixes things. |
| [02:53:07] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, the key to know if that the fanart won't be downloaded if a poster exists |
| [02:53:22] | iamlindoro: | so if you rm the posters it will always download both |
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| [02:54:18] | iamlindoro: | If it seems like there is any chance the new metadata stuff won't make .22, I'll fix that |
| [02:54:29] | iamlindoro: | or maybe I'll get bored and fix it anyway :) |
| [02:56:16] | RDV_Linux: | Today has got me thinking about new scripts also. I need to play more to figure out how I can help or what is not working as well as it could be. An on/off switch for the cache is already on my list. The cache is good for mass updates but not so much when used within mythvideo. |
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| [03:03:00] | iamlindoro: | bah, okay, I'll fix the download thing now :) |
| [03:03:07] | iamlindoro: | (since I'm on a roll) |
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| [03:03:52] | pembo13: | Can someone clue me in on how Mythtv calculates conficts? |
| [03:03:55] | pembo13: | i have two tuners |
| [03:04:18] | pembo13: | program A is from 21:00 to 21:30, ProgramB from 21:30 to 22:00, program C from 21:00 to 22:00 |
| [03:04:33] | pembo13: | myth is showing ProgramC as conflicting and wont' record it |
| [03:05:50] | pembo13: | ugh, nevermind |
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| [03:18:24] | iamlindoro: | Anduin, GreyFoxx: If either of you is available for what should be a really quick commit: http://rafb.net/p/zPWyUc43.html |
| [03:18:36] | iamlindoro: | All it does is allow the fanart download to continue if a poster is already set |
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| [03:19:15] | Anduin: | iamlindoro: I'll trade, what did you eventually use to make your .ogg video? |
| [03:19:54] | iamlindoro: | Anduin, Istanbul. Was the only thing I could find that worked right w/ MythFrontend |
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| [03:20:04] | Anduin: | (it will take a sec, haven't built in my commit tree for a little while) |
| [03:20:08] | iamlindoro: | Anduin, Works *much* better with the Qt painter (although you sacrifice some eye candy) |
| [03:20:22] | iamlindoro: | Anduin, No rush, just something I shouldn't have left broken back when anyway |
| [03:20:45] | iamlindoro: | And since you're here I'll point out that RDV_Linux has had good luck with my season/episode/etc. stuff tonight :) |
| [03:21:21] | Anduin: | Yeah, I read bits around my name, if you don't see it in by Saturday ping me |
| [03:21:36] | iamlindoro: | cool! |
| [03:23:54] | Anduin: | Hmm, not sure about the patch, it will always poster search even if it found the local one, mind if I fix that? |
| [03:24:14] | iamlindoro: | Anduin, It'll only poster search if it's empty or "No Cover" |
| [03:24:20] | iamlindoro: | unles I did something silly... |
| [03:24:52] | Anduin: | Yeah, I guess you are right in that the actual run checks as well |
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| [03:25:08] | iamlindoro: | But please feel free to do it however you think is best |
| [03:25:20] | Anduin: | oh, I see, yeah before here |
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| [03:31:16] | Anduin: | only change I made was to use IsDefaultCoverfile and the empty check |
| [03:31:29] | iamlindoro: | Sounds good, thank you :) |
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| [03:40:45] | steerpike: | hi! get_hulu script that came with rtmpdump doesn't work anymore.. anyone have a fix? |
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| [03:42:09] | iamlindoro: | Anduin, Thanks as always |
| [03:42:20] | steerpike: | listen! |
| [03:42:50] | ** iamlindoro blinks ** | |
| [03:43:08] | Anduin: | iamlindoro: thanks for letting me know about istanbul, works great |
| [03:43:39] | iamlindoro: | Anduin, You're welcome, it does a much better job than gtkRecordMyDesktop IMO |
| [03:43:45] | iamlindoro: | I had nothing but hassle with that |
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| [03:54:13] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, If you're awake, it might also be worth starting a wiki page for your grabber, with a subsection of the overrides you've found necessary so far, then people could cut/paste in/out of it into their own |
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| [04:40:12] | mjec-not-laptop: | hey guys, I've got my tuner working – channels all setup in backend, can get a viable mpg from tzap – but when I go to 'watch tv' in frontend it flickers and then drops out – log shows "DVBChan(1:0) Error: Tune(): Setting Frontend tuning parameters failed." |
| [04:40:51] | mjec-not-laptop: | also "eno: Invalid argument (22)" and "Warning: Your frequency setting (0) is out of range. (min/max:174000000/862000000)" which is weird, because I can tune to the channel otherwise |
| [04:40:57] | mjec-not-laptop: | Anyone have any thoughts? |
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| [04:45:09] | sphery: | mjec-not-laptop: Looks like broken channel definitions. Did you use the mythtv-setup scanner to find the channels or did you try to import info from an external app (which generally doesn't work)? |
| [04:46:04] | mjec-not-laptop: | sphery: mythtv-setup, though I did do a shepherd install after that.. I'll try resetting channels |
| [04:46:12] | ** mjec-not-laptop is mythnewb ** | |
| [04:47:17] | sphery: | mjec-not-laptop: yeah, you want to use mythtv-setup to scan, then make sure all the xmltvid's are set to the values used by shepherd, /then/ run the grabber (don't run the grabber until the xmltvid's are set or it can create new channels that won't work). |
| [04:47:38] | sphery: | I recommend the video source part of http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 to clean it up before rescanning |
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| [04:51:22] | wagnerrp: | im not sure, but i dont think a 'WD Green' will have the 4MB/s of capacity necessary for MythTV HD |
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| [04:52:37] | Shadow__X: | lol the new 2tb greens pull a constant 90MB/sed or so |
| [04:52:39] | Shadow__X: | sec* |
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| [04:53:06] | sphery: | wagnerrp: gotta be a reference to the -users list? |
| [04:53:07] | wagnerrp: | im being facetious |
| [04:53:11] | sphery: | sounds like a good thread |
| [04:53:20] | wagnerrp: | yes... reference to the -users list thread |
| [04:53:22] | ** Shadow__X blinks ** | |
| [04:53:24] | Shadow__X: | :D |
| [04:53:55] | wagnerrp: | ive not actually found the will to read the thread, but there were 20-some posts about it |
| [04:54:38] | sphery: | I read the first in the thread (and mentioned it to iamlindoro so he could evangelize it some more :), but didn't read any of the rest. |
| [04:54:40] | Shadow__X: | i wish i didnt get my 1tb green and instead got a wd black |
| [04:54:42] | Shadow__X: | :( |
| [04:54:51] | sphery: | just for cost? |
| [04:55:05] | Shadow__X: | yeah |
| [04:55:11] | Shadow__X: | fixed budgets suck |
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| [04:55:45] | sphery: | So, for Johnny Walker, there's Red, Black, Green, Blue, and (limited edition) Gold... I wonder when WD will release the Blue and Gold... |
| [04:56:11] | Shadow__X: | i would def buy a wd blue and gold |
| [04:56:27] | Shadow__X: | ouuu they can make a special special edition of wd black and gold and call it classy |
| [04:56:30] | sphery: | I'd prefer the Johnny Walker. :) |
| [04:56:38] | Shadow__X: | i dont |
| [04:56:40] | Shadow__X: | :) |
| [04:57:39] | kormoc: | I get stupider the more I hear about the -users thread |
| [04:57:44] | sphery: | hmmm... Seems it's Johnnie. |
| [04:57:53] | wagnerrp: | you joke, comparing it to whiskey... but i have a friend at work who has a USB 2.5" drive, that looks identical to a flask |
| [04:58:14] | Shadow__X: | how did you dicover this |
| [04:59:38] | wagnerrp: | one of these... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822186157 |
| [04:59:51] | Shadow__X: | oh yeah |
| [05:00:07] | Shadow__X: | turn a flash into an external |
| [05:00:13] | Shadow__X: | mark it up 200 percent |
| [05:00:17] | Shadow__X: | :) |
| [05:00:45] | wagnerrp: | 200%? nah |
| [05:00:51] | Shadow__X: | how much |
| [05:00:56] | sphery: | guess it would be a flask drive? |
| [05:00:59] | wagnerrp: | its $130, and 500GB laptop drives are $100+ |
| [05:01:12] | Shadow__X: | but this is a specialty item |
| [05:01:17] | Shadow__X: | which are crazy expensive |
| [05:01:36] | wagnerrp: | but its so purty |
| [05:01:51] | wagnerrp: | it'd be better without the writing |
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| [05:02:07] | mjec-not-laptop: | sphery: Reset channels, still etting the same error :/ |
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| [05:03:34] | sphery: | mjec-not-laptop: and you set a starting channel in mythtv-setup |
| [05:04:04] | Lexridge: | hey fellas. I'm still ass-deep in display issues. I could sure use some help here. Here is a description of the problem at hand: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php? . . . ght=lexridge |
| [05:04:39] | wagnerrp: | for curiosity... does mozilla complain about IE being too integrated within windows? or about safari shipping with OSX? |
| [05:04:48] | mjec-not-laptop: | sphery: yup |
| [05:05:24] | sphery: | hmmm... don't know, then. |
| [05:05:40] | sphery: | something has to be wrong with channel defs, but finding it will be a challenge. |
| [05:06:15] | mjec-not-laptop: | I love a challenge! |
| [05:06:24] | mjec-not-laptop: | But a challenge for another day, as I have an appointment now |
| [05:06:26] | mjec-not-laptop: | thansk sphery |
| [05:06:37] | sphery: | good luck |
| [05:08:41] | Lexridge: | I have not watched any tv in 3 nites :( |
| [05:09:37] | Lexridge: | what really sucks is that in my hast to upgrade to F10, I failed to backup my "." directories, and lost all my bookmarks, contacts and 8 years of checkbook data :((((((( |
| [05:11:00] | wagnerrp: | 8 years? |
| [05:11:11] | sphery: | heh, when I lost my 20+ years of checkbook data, I was about 3+ years behind on it, so I saw it as a good thing |
| [05:11:24] | wagnerrp: | there is no reason to keep further back than 7 |
| [05:11:39] | sphery: | but why delete when it's there? |
| [05:11:44] | Lexridge: | lol, true, but point is I lost it all. :( |
| [05:12:03] | wagnerrp: | why keep it if you have no intention of ever using it again |
| [05:12:39] | sphery: | Who knows when I'll want to compare my budget from Junior High to my current budget? :) |
| [05:12:49] | Lexridge: | I guess I should have used the purge button, anyway, I will hopefully have a fresh new checkbook file soon. |
| [05:13:38] | Lexridge: | presently, I have no idea how much cash I have at hand. that's never good |
| [05:14:23] | Lexridge: | I do not even have the link to check since my bookmarks are gone for everyhting including my bank account. |
| [05:14:38] | Shadow__X: | what do you use to keep track of finances |
| [05:14:45] | Shadow__X: | i should start doing that |
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| [05:14:49] | Lexridge: | Quicken under WINE. |
| [05:14:56] | Lexridge: | lol |
| [05:15:01] | Shadow__X: | hmm |
| [05:15:11] | Shadow__X: | no good native apps? |
| [05:15:22] | Lexridge: | it works very well under WINE. :) |
| [05:15:31] | Lexridge: | GNUCash would be the linux equilivent/ |
| [05:16:51] | Lexridge: | anyway, my checkbook program isn't the issue. The issue is the strange gfx problems I'm having. |
| [05:17:02] | Shadow__X: | ah |
| [05:17:38] | Lexridge: | I already weeped for 10 minutes about the lost data. Now, I need an operational system. |
| [05:17:45] | Lexridge: | ;) |
| [05:18:06] | Shadow__X: | Lexridge, backup backup backup |
| [05:18:22] | Shadow__X: | i recently lost over a TB of data so i know the feeling |
| [05:18:23] | Shadow__X: | "( |
| [05:19:00] | Lexridge: | I know the rules, and it seems people in the "know" are worse at backing up their data than normal humans. lol |
| [05:19:43] | Shadow__X: | yeah i know |
| [05:19:54] | Shadow__X: | i wish i had more money to beable to afford to backup everything |
| [05:20:08] | Lexridge: | me too! |
| [05:20:28] | Shadow__X: | around 255 dvds doesnt sound good |
| [05:20:52] | Lexridge: | personal data? WOW! |
| [05:21:08] | Shadow__X: | videos :) |
| [05:21:43] | Lexridge: | I just burn the videos I want to save to DVD-Video. I delete the rest. |
| [05:22:02] | Shadow__X: | i used to do that |
| [05:22:11] | Shadow__X: | then i had over 600 dvds |
| [05:22:12] | Lexridge: | However, I have an extremely unmanageable DVD collection at hand. |
| [05:22:17] | Shadow__X: | eaiser this way |
| [05:22:19] | Shadow__X: | right |
| [05:22:23] | Shadow__X: | exactly this way is easier |
| [05:22:25] | Shadow__X: | and faster |
| [05:24:38] | wagnerrp: | Shadow__X: and 255DVDs is somehow easy? |
| [05:25:07] | Shadow__X: | wagnerrp, that was around 4 years ago |
| [05:25:13] | Shadow__X: | now i just add more hds to array |
| [05:25:20] | Shadow__X: | then contemplate how i can backup the array |
| [05:26:00] | Lexridge: | I would love to be able to watch some TV :( I still have not even re-compiled mythtv on this sucky reinstalled F10 system. I missing some valuable brain dead TV, man!. Which brings up the question....should I install mythv from yum, or compile it as I have done in the past? |
| [05:26:33] | wagnerrp: | does yum provide svn builds? |
| [05:26:44] | Lexridge: | dont think so |
| [05:26:54] | wagnerrp: | probably better to build manually then |
| [05:27:01] | Lexridge: | I would agree |
| [05:27:09] | wagnerrp: | 0.21 release is a bit aged |
| [05:27:37] | Lexridge: | yea, but so far my experience with kde4.2 has been miserable at best. |
| [05:29:49] | Lexridge: | perhaps I should just revert to Fedora 8 and KDE3.5 with qt4 libs |
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| [05:46:30] | bocaJ: | hey folks, any thoughts on what the best commercial flagging method is? |
| [05:46:44] | kormoc: | The "It Depends" method |
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| [05:48:47] | tank-man: | if there was a "best method", then why would there be a choice? who would want to pick anything less then best? |
| [05:49:09] | tank-man: | makes no sense |
| [05:49:16] | bocaJ: | Kormoc – haha. I want to flag as many commercials as possible, but I value the show about 7 times more than I value not being interupted by commercials. That's the ballance I want to strike, any thoughts on which settings would acheive that? |
| [05:49:48] | kormoc: | Nope, it all depends |
| [05:49:58] | bocaJ: | or is there a way I can set custom commerical flagging based on channel? |
| [05:50:06] | kormoc: | It depends on the source, the network, the signal quality at the time, etc |
| [05:53:49] | bocaJ: | Alright, so knowing there isn't a "one size fits all" solution here, could you share what settings you use (if any) so I can test them for myself? I'm certainly not going to blame anyone if their own settings don't work for me. |
| [05:55:33] | kormoc: | I use the 'All' method personally |
| [05:55:46] | bocaJ: | with strict detection? |
| [05:56:01] | kormoc: | aye |
| [05:57:49] | sphery: | and if you're in the US, it should work well for you |
| [05:58:07] | sphery: | --as long as you don't enable auto-skip (instead, do notify) |
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| [07:07:22] | ** justinh favours the 'just press the +4 minute skip button' method ** | |
| [07:07:40] | justinh: | pity if you're so sedantary you can't be bothered to reach for the remote to do that though :P |
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| [07:26:34] | Shadow__X: | i did not think of this when i was in 5th grade |
| [07:26:34] | Shadow__X: | http://afrojacks.com/pics/4-pics/2411-when-5t . . . ement-issues |
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| [07:28:20] | justinh: | that has to be the lamest thing I've seen all day |
| [07:29:00] | Shadow__X: | well then maybe next time |
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| [07:38:35] | justinh: | heh. ML users can't even quote error messages properly. I don't think the word 'errored' appears in any of the code |
| [07:39:50] | justinh: | chuff. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/375646&n bsp;– the natives are getting restless, Jethro |
| [07:40:36] | pbj: | Hey Justinh – Can I borrow your expertise for a minute. I have a problem about the setup for my DVB-S which I can't figure out |
| [07:41:14] | pbj: | The problem is here: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/375635 Normally you'll know the solution for everything |
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| [08:26:23] | justinh: | eew. need to record a live radio stream to listen to later & the test I've just done sounds like bad pvr150 audio. the actual stream is ok |
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| [08:32:11] | sid3windr: | recording live streams, isn't that illegal! |
| [08:34:41] | justinh: | depends if said live stream is copyrighted or not |
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| [09:01:11] | justinh: | Oh crap. My email address was passed on to a support contact at a company and now I'm receiving their marketing spam |
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| [09:24:07] | sid3windr: | justinh: isn't everything ever made copyrighted then unless put in public domain? ;) |
| [09:24:26] | justinh: | shut up. la la la la la I can't hear you! |
| [09:24:27] | sid3windr: | </devil's advocate> |
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| [09:30:32] | mzb_d800: | depends on the country afaik. eg: common requirement is "Copyright {year}" or similar |
| [09:30:44] | mzb_d800: | in/on "the work" |
| [09:36:35] | sid3windr: | afaik that's just a myth :) |
| [09:42:52] | mzb_d800: | possibly |
| [09:43:38] | quicksilver: | there is no need to write that |
| [09:43:44] | quicksilver: | it's just for clarity. |
| [09:43:53] | quicksilver: | so that the infringer can't claim ignorance as a defence. |
| [09:44:16] | quicksilver: | similarly the UK wording "I assert my moral paternity over this work under the blah blah Act of blah blah blah" |
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| [10:26:59] | justinh: | ducking ignorant buggers here. Moaning that I can't just rustle up a cable when the connectors needed are on 6 week lead times. meh |
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| [10:29:02] | clever: | chop up another cable:P |
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| [10:37:07] | mzb_d800: | any chance of mythphone making it's way back into trunk? ... or am I just not finding it? |
| [10:38:38] | gbee: | not unless someone takes an interest in fixing all the broken bits, porting it to QT4 and mythui + maintaining it |
| [10:38:42] | justinh: | heh. it's deprecated alright |
| [10:38:51] | mzb_d800: | really sad it's not there ... now I'll have to do an even dodgier method of callerid |
| [10:39:05] | mzb_d800: | no intention of actually answering/making calls with it |
| [10:39:37] | justinh: | if (watching_something) disableTheDamnPhone |
| [10:39:43] | mzb_d800: | merely had it register and never answer. Single (1 sec?) dial from asterisk pbx and I got callerid popups. |
| [10:39:48] | mzb_d800: | nah |
| [10:40:23] | mzb_d800: | don't get telemarketers anymore so like to know when someone actually makes an effort ;) |
| [10:40:27] | justinh: | that's why God had man invent answering machines :) |
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| [10:40:39] | justinh: | and my folks never leave a message. win-win |
| [10:40:45] | mzb_d800: | pbx takes care of it all for me |
| [10:41:02] | mzb_d800: | yeah, yeah ... some of us actually want to get calls every now and then |
| [10:41:38] | justinh: | well, engineer dude can go & boil his damn head. none of the usual suspects stock his retarded choice of connector |
| [10:41:44] | mzb_d800: | and if caller ID pops up at least I know there's a chance ${WOMAN} might even answer it |
| [10:42:08] | justinh: | wtf have you got a pbx at home for? takes all sorts |
| [10:42:26] | mzb_d800: | asterisk box ... called "pbx" |
| [10:42:26] | justinh: | ahh.. because you can can can |
| [10:42:31] | mzb_d800: | yep |
| [10:42:58] | mzb_d800: | and means I can route through whichever provider I like depending on the call, etc, etc. |
| [10:43:35] | mzb_d800: | got monthly bill down to ~au$26 total ... including mobiles + international |
| [10:43:55] | mzb_d800: | T3lstra can bite my ... gee look at the time |
| [10:43:55] | justinh: | heh. I can never remember the last time I put £10 on my mobile |
| [10:44:17] | justinh: | email, IM & txt ftw |
| [10:44:39] | mzb_d800: | only speak to ppl in your own generation/country/etc ? |
| [10:44:58] | justinh: | yup |
| [10:45:18] | justinh: | other than on IRC... but that's just an annoying addiction |
| [10:45:31] | ** gbee lets everyone call him, keeps the phone bill real low ;) ** | |
| [10:46:20] | justinh: | prefer face to face over anything else, so get a lot of that |
| [10:46:22] | ** laga just uses VOIP on his N95 whenever possible ** | |
| [10:46:23] | mzb_d800: | bit different here from size of country alone ... anything more than 30km constitutes long distance. So you can only imagine what Hobart<-->Sydney would cost! |
| [10:46:34] | justinh: | wherever they are |
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| [10:54:15] | mzb_d800: | either way ... is there a particular problem with including just the notification part of mythphone? (and I don't mean because I might be the only one actually using it!) |
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| [10:56:00] | gbee: | mzb_d800: can't see it being a problem, if someone wants to isolate that particular bit then I'd look at integrating it into the new notification framework I'm planning |
| [10:57:04] | mzb_d800: | ok, thanks ... I'll play with mythphone from 0.21-fixes then, or specific rev of trunk? (eg: 19201 ?) |
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| [11:01:14] | mzb_d800: | meh, as you say ... "unmaintained" ... revision likely makes no difference ;) |
| [11:07:05] | justinh: | whoah. animoto have animations that slightly whoop the ass of opengl transitions |
| [11:07:55] | gbee: | underneath it's probably still opengl |
| [11:13:17] | justinh: | no doubt, but it's what they do with it all wot makes the eyes pop out |
| [11:14:13] | gbee: | sure, just a shame that the one opengl wizard we have among the devs is currently far too busy to work on that stuff for mythtv |
| [11:15:24] | justinh: | I meant in terms of general photo showing software |
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| [11:15:59] | gbee: | yeah and it wouldn't hurt to have that stuff in mythui generally and mythgallery especially |
| [11:17:36] | justinh: | with all the fuss about compiz etc I'm surprised there's not yet a fancy photo viewer/slideshow app |
| [11:18:04] | mike-os: | why would that need compiz? |
| [11:18:31] | justinh: | it wouldn't. that isn't what I'm saying |
| [11:18:55] | mike-os: | ah you're just talking about the beautification push on linux? |
| [11:19:14] | justinh: | I mean what with all the fuss about whizzbang 3D bollocks on the desktop, there aren't any whizzy APPS yet |
| [11:19:54] | mike-os: | doesnt KDE have something? seems like their bag |
| [11:19:57] | justinh: | it's all about pushing 2D planes around, so why not a fancy ass photo viewer? |
| [11:20:10] | justinh: | ken burns/zoompan junk |
| [11:20:49] | ** quicksilver has started writing one three times. ** | |
| [11:21:01] | mike-os: | your favorite program does it, but better not mention that |
| [11:21:03] | quicksilver: | and from ##opengl I know at least 3 other people have started writing them multiple times. |
| [11:21:14] | quicksilver: | I'm not great at finishing stuff though. |
| [11:21:20] | quicksilver: | I move onto something new and interesting. |
| [11:23:12] | justinh: | whose favourite program? |
| [11:23:52] | mike-os: | x8mc |
| [11:24:06] | justinh: | oh THAT. hey, if you want a contribution maybe if there was some way of getting a debug report to you about its inability to run AT ALL on my laptop |
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| [11:36:27] | motd2k: | you could always visit xbmc-linux with that justinh :) |
| [11:38:24] | justinh: | don't have linux on my laptop anymore :) |
| [11:38:57] | justinh: | I guess a report won't be any help since it never gets as far as writing any log either. heh |
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| [12:52:27] | mjec-not-laptop: | exit |
| [12:52:27] | mjec-not-laptop: | exit |
| [12:52:35] | mjec-not-laptop: | exit |
| [12:52:50] | mjec-not-laptop: | Sorry, thought I was in a shell |
| [12:52:57] | mjec-not-laptop: | embarrassing |
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| [13:04:27] | GreyFoxx: | hahah |
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| [13:08:58] | justinh: | #hermit for people who think they're in a shell, surely |
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| [13:19:01] | AnNahar: | hi |
| [13:19:05] | AnNahar: | anyone using flash player in mythweb |
| [13:19:32] | AnNahar: | AS I UNDERSTAND IT'S EXPERIMENTAL, i was wondering if there's anything i can do about the controls disappearing |
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| [13:22:15] | justinh: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/commits/267353 seems to suggest a newer flash player might help |
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| [13:24:59] | AnNahar: | flash-plugin-10.0.22.87-release.i386 |
| [13:26:32] | AnNahar: | err, this thread is about 2 years old |
| [13:26:38] | justinh: | so? |
| [13:26:44] | AnNahar: | moving on |
| [13:26:47] | AnNahar: | anyone else have any ideas? |
| [13:26:52] | justinh: | doesn't necessarily mean the problem went away |
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| [13:27:04] | justinh: | but the symptoms would suggest a problem with whatever is playing the stream |
| [13:27:20] | justinh: | and there you go. back to the beginning |
| [13:27:29] | AnNahar: | justinh, we never left the beginning |
| [13:27:37] | justinh: | suit yourself |
| [13:27:45] | AnNahar: | in fact, i'd say we probably went backwards |
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| [13:28:46] | justinh: | is your flash player the actual adobe one or a GPL imitation of it? |
| [13:28:55] | AnNahar: | actual adobe one |
| [13:28:56] | justinh: | either way, try the alternative |
| [13:29:26] | AnNahar: | File name: libflashplayer.so |
| [13:29:27] | AnNahar: | Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22 |
| [13:29:37] | justinh: | and if neither work still, maybe it'll be time to file a bug against the problem |
| [13:31:46] | justinh: | maybe also try it on as many different platforms as you can. I've only ever used it with FF & adobe's own plugin on windows & it seemed fine then |
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| [13:32:35] | orly_owl: | To access iplayer outside the UK, would a web proxy work? |
| [13:32:36] | justinh: | google doesn't seem to show any instances of the controls disappearing other than the thread I linked to.. so maybe you're plain out of luck |
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| [13:34:48] | AnNahar: | how do you enable/disable the flash player in mythweb? |
| [13:35:19] | justinh: | on a settings page. where it is depends which version you've got I think |
| [13:36:16] | justinh: | Settings > MythWeb then click the 'video playback' tab in 0.21-fixes |
| [13:36:27] | gbee: | to break into a house, would a crow bar work? |
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| [13:38:33] | AnNahar: | it seems it's been in experimental phase for over 1 year |
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| [13:40:54] | gbee: | that's what happens when people are working on a voluntary basis, they don't always have the time for MythTV |
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| [13:50:31] | RDV_Linux: | iamlindora: Should this patch really start at "trunk" (http://cvs.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/20218)? I had to drop the " trunk/ " reference to make it work for my 0.22 setup. Also thanks for the suggestion of a wiki page for ttvdb. I will do the wiki page soon, |
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| [13:55:48] | gbee: | heh |
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| [13:57:47] | gbee: | iamlindoro in a skirt ... well he could be ... |
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| [14:12:08] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, That's not a patch, it's a commit. :) Just SVN up |
| [14:12:52] | justinh: | nice. samples can be ordered direct from Samtec's website now :) |
| [14:13:11] | iamlindoro: | anyway, the level above mythtv and mythplugins, or from within mythtv or mythplugins are the acceptable levels from which a patch can start |
| [14:13:44] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, where there's an extra level, that's what the -p option in the patch command is for (-p0 = ignore no levels, -p1, ignore the first level, etc.) |
| [14:14:44] | justinh: | FFS. somebody just pronounced my name wrong. since when was 'in' supposed to be said 'een' ? need to do some smiting |
| [14:15:03] | iamlindoro: | gbee, Never a dress during the workweek ;) |
| [14:15:22] | justinh: | iamlindoro: too distracting for colleagues? |
| [14:15:32] | iamlindoro: | Well I *do* have stellar legs |
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| [14:16:46] | Bonez56: | Hi, I have a brand new Ubuntu install and when I try to install the "mythtv" meta package I get the following error: |
| [14:16:52] | Bonez56: | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| [14:16:53] | Bonez56: | mythtv: Depends: mythtv-frontend (= 0.21.0+fixes19961–0ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed |
| [14:16:53] | Bonez56: | Depends: mythtv-backend (= 0.21.0+fixes19961–0ubuntu4) but it is not going to be installed |
| [14:16:53] | Bonez56: | E: Broken packages |
| [14:16:56] | Bonez56: | can anyone assist? |
| [14:16:58] | Bonez56: | Thanks |
| [14:17:11] | iamlindoro: | #ubuntu-mythtv are the right folks for that |
| [14:17:27] | iamlindoro: | especially as it's a fresh isntall, they are likely hearing it all over the place and have a quick fix |
| [14:17:57] | justinh: | apt-get install svn; svn co http://... :-P |
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| [14:23:16] | RDV_Linux: | iamlindoro: Obviously I am still a rookie on all of this stuff. Thanks for the clarification. I am surprised it was committed so quick although I did read your messages with Anduin. |
| [14:25:05] | Bonez56: | thanks |
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| [14:26:26] | iamlindoro: | RDV_Linux, No problem :) Off to work |
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| [14:51:16] | iamlindoro_: | glad to see I haven't missed anything |
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| [15:07:06] | justinh: | tee minus 25 minutes and counting |
| [15:07:34] | jduggan: | until? |
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| [15:08:26] | justinh: | hometime :) |
| [15:09:22] | jduggan: | ah |
| [15:09:34] | jduggan: | tee minus 140minutes |
| [15:09:42] | jduggan: | or something =] |
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| [15:10:49] | iamlindoro_: | Just a schoche under 8 more hours, here! |
| [15:11:52] | sid3windr: | 100% translated (except one |
| [15:11:52] | sid3windr: | string) |
| [15:11:55] | sid3windr: | how is that 100% ? :> |
| [15:14:05] | iamlindoro_: | Just like all those tests I used to take home and claim I had aced, besides the 40% I got wrong |
| [15:15:06] | justinh: | all my themes rocked. apart from the ones that didn't |
| [15:15:26] | iamlindoro_: | 60% of the time, it works every time |
| [15:16:20] | justinh: | wonder if the loser who bought my wife's Tina Turner tickets has paid up yet |
| [15:17:28] | iamlindoro_: | Don't kick a man while he's down, he's already stuck with Tina Turner tickets |
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| [15:19:05] | sid3windr: | =) |
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| [15:23:00] | jduggan: | lol |
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| [15:24:10] | justinh: | ended up going for less than the face value. serves her right for trying to cash in on the less able to think |
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| [15:34:32] | iamlindoro_: | Oh look, here I am again |
| [15:36:42] | _abbenormal: | lost and found |
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| [15:48:38] | mzb_d800: | you can fool some ppl some of the time, ... |
| [15:48:52] | gbee: | justinh: suprised to see anything sell on ebay for LESS than the face value |
| [15:51:10] | iamlindoro_: | Wheeeee, so I'll need to test it when I get home, but I think I've got the PBB cover/fan/ban auto-download working |
| [15:51:45] | mzb_d800: | got to wonder how much this ATSC card is going to go for |
| [15:51:56] | iamlindoro_: | Except I forsee problems when scrolling through some huge list and a buttload of downloads get queued up |
| [15:52:08] | mzb_d800: | (speaking of value on eBay) |
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| [15:59:15] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | mzb_d800: ATSC in AUS? ;-) |
| [15:59:32] | mzb_d800: | came in a box from the US |
| [15:59:55] | mzb_d800: | I've done my latest round of bignum btw .... not looking too bad |
| [16:00:11] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | cool. ;-) |
| [16:00:25] | mzb_d800: | heaps of pics but buggered |
| [16:00:38] | mzb_d800: | I'll get _one_ ;) |
| [16:01:03] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | hehe... ;-) If I'm not on when you post it, PM me, and I'll see it later. ;-) |
| [16:01:48] | mzb_d800: | getting it ready now |
| [16:01:54] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | cool. |
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| [16:02:52] | mzb_d800: | any particular numbers you want to see? :)) |
| [16:03:13] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | mzb_d800: Anything... ;-) |
| [16:03:27] | mzb_d800: | k |
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| [16:06:43] | anykey_: | gbee: I have another strange problem here with Terra. In the main menu, the piece far right is missing (it's black without a text) |
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| [16:08:49] | mzb_d800: | J-e-f-f-A|work: http://www.users.on.net/~marcusbrutus/mythtv/LCD/20090319/ |
| [16:09:48] | mzb_d800: | some of them don't actually look that great close up. Pics were taken 2–3 inches away. Look great from >1m. |
| [16:10:25] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | Yeah, not bad. ;-) |
| [16:10:41] | mzb_d800: | I've tried to achieve/maintain 1pixel between numbers |
| [16:10:57] | mzb_d800: | (for clarity) |
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| [16:11:22] | mzb_d800: | 4 5 7 and 8 quite difficult |
| [16:11:43] | mzb_d800: | still thinking about minor mods to 1 and 7 |
| [16:12:00] | mzb_d800: | fairly happy with charset |
| [16:14:37] | mzb_d800: | J-e-f-f-A|work: and a bonus one: http://www.users.on.net/~marcusbrutus/mythtv/ . . . 319/1_37.jpg |
| [16:16:02] | mzb_d800: | still got a couple of tricks up my sleeve, but starting to tire ;) |
| [16:16:36] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | that one is pretty cool. ;-) And at that hour... I can understand! ;-) |
| [16:17:02] | mzb_d800: | at worst, at least I can read it from a distance now without looking twice ;) |
| [16:17:31] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | mzb_d800: Ooh, I just had a neat idea for a new font. ;-) It'll have to wait until tonight when I'm home though... |
| [16:17:38] | mzb_d800: | :) |
| [16:18:12] | mzb_d800: | I'm supposed to be working on ${HER} machine tomorrow :| |
| [16:18:56] | meshe: | which lcd are you using there? |
| [16:18:56] | mzb_d800: | I got away without doing it today as I got the bedtv (mythFE) running again ... only _perfectly_ this time (as promised;)) |
| [16:19:09] | mzb_d800: | 20x4 blue negative |
| [16:19:19] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | meshe: Hitachi HD44780 ;-) |
| [16:19:29] | gbee: | no parallel port on my new board, so my HD44780 is pretty useless |
| [16:19:30] | mzb_d800: | hd44780 (equivalent) |
| [16:19:32] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | meshe: They only have 8 custom characters, so you have to get creative. |
| [16:19:48] | meshe: | nice |
| [16:19:52] | mzb_d800: | (or squint;) |
| [16:20:46] | meshe: | you can't just address the pixels? |
| [16:20:55] | mzb_d800: | the standard "bigclock" looks pretty crude in comparison (no offense to ... too late to remember his name) |
| [16:20:57] | mzb_d800: | nope |
| [16:21:14] | mzb_d800: | 8 user-defined 5x8 chars only |
| [16:21:26] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | meshe: here's the font I came up with one night mzb_d800 and I were chatting: http://jartz.gotdns.com:8008/files/lcd/bigclock_font |
| [16:22:00] | meshe: | ack, 8008 and work firewall don't play nice :) |
| [16:22:32] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | meshe: hehe... yeah, that applies to me @ work too... verizon blocks 80... so... |
| [16:23:20] | mzb_d800: | ooh, didn't show you what I did with the 8! |
| [16:23:58] | mzb_d800: | (speaking of creative') |
| [16:26:41] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | meshe: I copied it to my vz hosted site: http://mysite.verizon.net/~jartz/files/lcd/bigclock_font/ |
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| [16:27:21] | mzb_d800: | http://www.users.on.net/~marcusbrutus/mythtv/ . . . 319/1_28.jpg |
| [16:27:41] | meshe: | very cool |
| [16:27:43] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | mzb_d800: Hey, that looks pretty good! ;-) |
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| [16:28:20] | mzb_d800: | stand back from the screen .... looks even better then :) |
| [16:28:35] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | meshe: I did that to show all the numbers... 05 16 27 38 49 ;-) |
| [16:28:38] | mzb_d800: | notice the left side of the numbers are slightly heavier? |
| [16:28:48] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | mzb_d800: yep. ;-) |
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| [16:29:18] | mzb_d800: | that's a *feature* ;) |
| [16:29:23] | mzb_d800: | *cough* |
| [16:29:23] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | mzb_d800: trying to give them a 3d effect? ;-) |
| [16:29:47] | mzb_d800: | had to shave something somewhere so that the numbers didn't rub together too much ;) |
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| [16:30:15] | mzb_d800: | that's also why the 4 looks a little odd close up (but quite good from distance) |
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| [16:32:23] | mzb_d800: | minor problems remaining with 57 together (and things like that) because they join .... not sure how much I care |
| [16:32:39] | mzb_d800: | (join at the top) |
| [16:33:11] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | mzb_d800: Well, if you look at the one I made, they join too – but I just came up with a great idea for a new font that I'll have to experiment with... |
| [16:33:12] | mzb_d800: | I can solve some of those with "serifs" but I'm not keen on the idea |
| [16:34:38] | mzb_d800: | I found the joining numbers suck after a while ... ie: two 5's or a 56 together start getting hard to read |
| [16:35:13] | mzb_d800: | got those two combos pretty good, just minor ones now |
| [16:35:51] | mzb_d800: | (have to keep in mind ${WOMAN} can't see as well as me so I've been doing "squint tests" !) |
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| [16:38:02] | meshe: | hmmm, i wonder what it would take to mod one of those 5–7" digital picture frames as a display |
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| [16:38:54] | mzb_d800: | heh ... you'd need a remote control for that meshe ;) |
| [16:40:09] | meshe: | just for displaying time, date, show meta info, fanart |
| [16:40:39] | mzb_d800: | ie: display has footy scores + upcoming games ... ${WOMAN} walks in door ... meshe presses "BOSS" button on remote ... picture of mother-in-law re-appears in the "${WOMAN} has placed it here so don't touch spot" |
| [16:41:20] | meshe: | haha, one problem with that, I am the ${WOMAN} |
| [16:41:29] | meshe: | i'm the geek in our house |
| [16:41:44] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | meshe: One of the things I hope to work on is adding Graphical LCD support for myth... There are lots of pretty nice 'vdr' graphic LCD themes to glean ideas from... |
| [16:41:50] | mzb_d800: | s/${WOMAN}/finicky member?/ ;) |
| [16:42:36] | meshe: | nah, husband is pretty good :) he thinks the tech stuff I do is cool |
| [16:42:46] | mzb_d800: | *sigh* |
| [16:43:11] | mzb_d800: | you making the idea of turning gay sound attractive ... wanna share him? ;) |
| [16:43:21] | meshe: | lol |
| [16:43:58] | meshe: | http://www.xenarc.com/product/700ts.html |
| [16:44:06] | mzb_d800: | I'm unappreciated ... "so is the bedtv working ok, dear?" ==> "Shutup ... I'm watching TV ... GET OUT!" |
| [16:44:18] | meshe: | ouch |
| [16:45:08] | meshe: | though i'm that way some days |
| [16:45:36] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | Nice display, but $399 — YIKES! ;-) |
| [16:45:38] | mzb_d800: | s/${WOMAN}/pregnant bitch with torn Archiles tendon/ |
| [16:45:54] | mzb_d800: | ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H |
| [16:46:07] | meshe: | mzb_d800: in that case, be very nice to her, it will get better :) |
| [16:46:10] | mzb_d800: | pregnant beastie! |
| [16:46:41] | meshe: | J-e-f-f-A|work: yeah, but wouldn't that be nice right beside your tv? |
| [16:46:45] | mzb_d800: | yeah ... she was nicer for the last one. Makes me think this one has a different "flavour" (a boy, maybe?) |
| [16:47:18] | mzb_d800: | meshe: for that price wouldn't it be nicer to just get a bigger tv? :) |
| [16:47:24] | meshe: | hehe |
| [16:47:55] | meshe: | we are trying to decide between a 60" dlp and a projector atm |
| [16:48:52] | mzb_d800: | pfftt ... gone are the days of hand-shadow games |
| [16:49:00] | [Peter]: | meshe: projector |
| [16:49:50] | meshe: | yeah, i'm leaning towards that, but it's like 3x the cost of the dlp |
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| [16:50:17] | meshe: | but it would be really nice in a large room |
| [16:51:33] | mzb_d800: | only room I've got big enough to fit that is supposed to have a car in it! |
| [16:51:45] | meshe: | heh |
| [16:51:57] | [Peter]: | meshe: I got the PT-AE3000 one month ago with a 114" 2.35:1 screen. watching movies is awesome |
| [16:52:30] | mzb_d800: | bad enough having a 42" RPTV and 2x 69cm (35yo) facing the wall (waiting for some love) |
| [16:52:39] | meshe: | we only have 8 ft wall to wall in our living room, but the projector we are looking at only needs to be back 4.5 ft from the screen to produce a 3 ft high image |
| [16:52:52] | meshe: | 16:9 |
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| [16:56:10] | mzb_d800: | hmm, 4am ... better hit the sack before I regret it (more) ... gnite all. |
| [16:56:18] | meshe: | night mzb_d800 |
| [17:02:37] | AndyCap: | umm, isn't a projector and a dlp tv the same thing, except one comes in a box |
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| [17:03:39] | [Peter]: | AndyCap: kind of hard to get the projector out of the box in the TV case |
| [17:04:05] | AndyCap: | [Peter]: just a question of how bad you want it |
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| [17:04:13] | [Peter]: | AndyCap: :) |
| [17:08:36] | meshe: | well, a projector is a lot smaller and cleaner to mount on the ceiling :) |
| [17:10:33] | AndyCap: | assuming you've got somewhere to hide cables, don't mind it hanging down from the ceiling etc. :P |
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| [17:11:51] | meshe: | i'm planning on replacing my living room frontend with a mac mini which would mount nice right beside the projector :) |
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| [17:17:17] | quicksilver: | projector can make use of a wall |
| [17:17:26] | quicksilver: | DLP TV requires a great big chunk of glass in your rooom |
| [17:17:58] | meshe: | yeah, a little more expensive for a Wii mishap :) |
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| [17:22:40] | PerilousApricot: | stuuupid nvidia driver won't let me make a smaller virtual screen size than the resolution |
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| [17:37:43] | sphery: | Heh, funny that Apple won't let people stream to iPhone/Touch unless they use the "blessed by Apple" decoder (from "iPhone Frontend Issues" on -users list). |
| [17:39:27] | iamlindoro_: | It surprises me, given the emphasis in their 3.0 software on mashups/embedding info from one app in the other, that they don't give enough access to the player on the API level to make it work |
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| [17:44:17] | sphery: | iamlindoro_: yeah, it sounds a /lot/ like the Vista DRM layer |
| [17:44:35] | sphery: | wonder why they do it, though |
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| [17:47:38] | Dagmar: | sphery; Because iTunes has an obligation to at least try not to get sued by media companies for making it easy for pirates |
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| [17:51:42] | gbee: | that and Apple like control |
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| [17:55:56] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | mzb_d800, meshe: Here's my character designs for this font: http://mysite.verizon.net/~jartz/files/lcd/bi . . . _design.html |
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| [19:13:26] | confusi0n: | hi |
| [19:13:45] | confusi0n: | i'm having problems changing the epg font size in the ui.xml for projectgreyhem-wide |
| [19:13:56] | confusi0n: | which font should i be looking to change |
| [19:14:06] | confusi0n: | as far as i can see i've changed every single one but nothing changes in the epg |
| [19:14:36] | justinh: | heh |
| [19:15:44] | confusi0n: | am i doing something wrong? |
| [19:16:34] | justinh: | which EPG font size are you trying to change exactly? I mean which screen? |
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| [19:17:45] | confusi0n: | the programguide... in livetv, i need the titles of the programs to display a little larger |
| [19:18:06] | confusi0n: | my gf has trouble seeing them from a distance |
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| [19:18:22] | justinh: | which EPG? |
| [19:18:43] | justinh: | the browse mode one or the big grid based one where the video is in a little rectangle in the corner? |
| [19:18:52] | confusi0n: | the latter |
| [19:18:56] | confusi0n: | big grid |
| [19:19:13] | justinh: | so you need to be editing the second window in ui.xml |
| [19:19:31] | confusi0n: | the second window? ie, programguide-video? |
| [19:20:04] | justinh: | <window name="programguide-video"> |
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| [19:20:12] | ** confusi0n nods ** | |
| [19:20:46] | confusi0n: | k, i've set every font in that window (default, big, and small) to size 30 for testing, and still no results |
| [19:20:54] | confusi0n: | bare in mind this is cvs mythtv with cvs themes |
| [19:21:11] | justinh: | projectgrayhem-wide isn't for use with trunk |
| [19:21:21] | justinh: | it's no longer maintained |
| [19:21:31] | confusi0n: | ah crap, maybe this is why |
| [19:21:31] | jduggan: | and myth uses cvs? =] |
| [19:21:40] | confusi0n: | oh you know what i mean, svn :P lol |
| [19:21:45] | jduggan: | ah k |
| [19:22:04] | justinh: | I'd be all for deleting it but the powers that be want them to stay & rot if necessary |
| [19:22:49] | justinh: | AFAIK though that screen hasn't been ported to mythui yet so it should (in theory) still work |
| [19:23:56] | gbee: | descinfo |
| [19:23:56] | PerilousApricot: | eeeep, I'm trying to build the svn version of mythtv (trying to hunt a bug) but it's looking for a systemwide myth libraries and balking |
| [19:24:25] | gbee: | I'm wondering if the guide fonts weren't hardcoded in 0.21 though |
| [19:24:59] | confusi0n: | i see... i've changed descinfo to no avail |
| [19:25:01] | justinh: | gbee: don't think so |
| [19:25:05] | gbee: | the font has been named descfont, ... implying it's used for the descriptions, not the title |
| [19:25:19] | justinh: | could be my font names are bollocks |
| [19:25:48] | confusi0n: | is bluetube maintained? |
| [19:25:51] | confusi0n: | bluetoob |
| [19:25:55] | justinh: | nope |
| [19:26:02] | justinh: | nothing in /themes is |
| [19:26:09] | confusi0n: | christ :/ |
| [19:26:18] | justinh: | unless somebody else takes them under their wing, they'll rot |
| [19:26:34] | confusi0n: | that's a shame |
| [19:27:04] | meshe: | what themes are maintained? |
| [19:27:19] | justinh: | meshe: all the official ones. the core themes |
| [19:27:24] | justinh: | up to a point |
| [19:27:50] | confusi0n: | yeah i can confirm the fonts scale up correctly with the default theme |
| [19:27:54] | confusi0n: | that's a damned shame, that |
| [19:28:17] | justinh: | yeah well, it was a shame I burned bright & burned out |
| [19:28:36] | jduggan: | there are not many good themes out there |
| [19:28:58] | jduggan: | the core ones are guff and i switch between glass and metallurgy |
| [19:29:06] | jduggan: | both nice =] |
| [19:29:09] | confusi0n: | doesn't seem like it... are there any at all that will run correctly with svn? |
| [19:29:27] | gbee: | confusi0n: if they scale correctly with the default theme, they should with projectgreyhem |
| [19:29:44] | jduggan: | confusi0n: the ui is changing, so not sure many ppl are releasing 'stable' themes etc |
| [19:29:52] | justinh: | confusi0n: thing is, if the screen is actually being loaded from ui.xml in the right directory you should be ok |
| [19:30:21] | gbee: | metallurgy will be updated for 0.22, but it will only be an update, not a re-invention |
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| [19:31:28] | confusi0n: | XMLParse: LoadTheme using '/usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/ProjectGrayhem-wide/ui.xml' |
| [19:31:33] | confusi0n: | that's the file i'm editing |
| [19:31:45] | justinh: | hrm |
| [19:32:29] | justinh: | just to be sure, wipe out the themecache dir & make sure you're quitting livetv so you can see the changes |
| [19:32:49] | justinh: | it only gets loaded once |
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| [19:35:03] | iamlindoro_: | good ol' Grayhem |
| [19:35:44] | justinh: | naff, rotten ol' Grayhem |
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| [19:37:20] | justinh: | crap. that xrandr thing is hitting playback on skipping now. ffs |
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| [19:37:30] | justinh: | gonna have to nuke this frontend |
| [19:39:19] | confusi0n: | lol still no luck |
| [19:40:21] | iamlindoro_: | Trying to do much of anything with those themes, unless you intend to learn MythUI format theming and make the whole thing functional with it, is likely to be an exercise in pain |
| [19:40:44] | justinh: | is it definitely PG-wide's screen.. I mean there aren't any errors about it & falling back to the default-wide ui.xml ? |
| [19:41:34] | justinh: | but then again, it could be falling back & not reporting it. Seen that quite often in the past |
| [19:42:36] | confusi0n: | perhaps that's what's happening :/ |
| [19:42:41] | confusi0n: | tell you what i'll do you a trade |
| [19:43:08] | confusi0n: | i'll let the ui.xml problem go if you can get my via cn700 chipset running livetv without any bizarre and unknown stutters on my server-box, lol :D |
| [19:43:43] | confusi0n: | hmm |
| [19:43:44] | confusi0n: | i do get this... |
| [19:43:47] | confusi0n: | Error loading image file: /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/ProjectGrayhem-wide/ |
| [19:44:03] | jamiem: | someone with ffmpeg-fu want to tell me how to set audio offset / resync ... -itsoffset isn't working |
| [19:44:37] | jamiem: | might it be because I'm using -acodec copy ? |
| [19:44:47] | justinh: | tell you what, I'll let the problems in /themes go under the bridge unpatched, because they took up so much of my life & now I can't even bring myself to look at them anymore |
| [19:45:41] | confusi0n: | lol |
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| [19:46:27] | iamlindoro_: | jamiem: You can't manipulate audio in any way with acodec copy |
| [19:46:36] | jamiem: | I see |
| [19:46:44] | jamiem: | -acodec libmp3lame ? |
| [19:46:51] | iamlindoro_: | that's up to you |
| [19:47:04] | jamiem: | iamlindoro_: I have demuxed ... I have an m4v and an m2u |
| [19:47:11] | iamlindoro_: | I personally don't transcode, so my ffmpeg has atrophied |
| [19:47:18] | jamiem: | k |
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| [19:47:28] | jamiem: | wait: s/m2u/mp3/ |
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| [19:48:00] | confusi0n: | seriously though... are there known issues with the CN700 chipset using openchrome? i have mpegs from livetv that play fine using mplayer, but i get strange stuttering and jumping video from within both myth release and myth svn |
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| [19:48:13] | confusi0n: | i decided to give up on that, but i thought i'd run it by you guys while i'm here |
| [19:48:25] | justinh: | confusi0n: I loved my epia so much I sold it & bought proper hardware instead |
| [19:48:36] | iamlindoro_: | On a related note, I can't wait to hear the VIA-camp whine when trying to use my theme and finding I don't care |
| [19:49:06] | justinh: | iamlindoro_: fit a fanless heatsink to them. that should make the noise less audible |
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| [19:50:15] | iamlindoro_: | One of these days I'll figure out what in the eff to do with the menus in it |
| [19:50:28] | iamlindoro_: | A rock will fall out of the sky and when I come to, I'll just know |
| [19:51:09] | confusi0n: | well for the price i paid for it it make a damned good file server/myth backend/router/firewall/mail server |
| [19:51:19] | confusi0n: | so no major complaints here (other than the damned video) |
| [19:51:33] | iamlindoro_: | My mythTV box is great except for the TV? |
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| [19:51:56] | justinh: | nah. file servers/routers/firewalls/mail servers make damn fine file servers/routers/firewalls/mail servers |
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| [19:53:02] | confusi0n: | :/ |
| [19:53:27] | confusi0n: | iamlindoro, well it's serving as a backend at the moment |
| [19:53:37] | justinh: | I wasted many an hour fecking about with that monster |
| [19:54:36] | confusi0n: | i'm on quite a lean budget and i have to say that for the price i paid for this board i've been rather happy with it so far. it's all the processing power i need from a home server, and low power cons too |
| [19:54:45] | iamlindoro_: | Wonder if the theme bitrot and refusal of the couple of us actually writing MythUI themes to do 4:3/lean/light/etc. will drive an upgrade crisis |
| [19:54:56] | confusi0n: | the livetv would have been a bonus, but i can live withouth that |
| [19:55:14] | confusi0n: | it's obviously a problem with mythtv though, if mplayer can decode and render the mpegs without a hitch |
| [19:55:35] | justinh: | iamlindoro_: as in people refusing to upgrade? |
| [19:55:41] | confusi0n: | i mean, i can stream the mpeg on one screen in mplayer the same time livetv is stuttering about with it |
| [19:55:45] | iamlindoro_: | justinh: And the me with the laughing? Yes. |
| [19:55:51] | justinh: | or will it finally force people to roll up their lazy sleeves? |
| [19:55:57] | confusi0n: | same file, same format/encoding |
| [19:56:05] | iamlindoro_: | s/problem with mythtv/problem with your ability to configure mythtv/, TFTFY |
| [19:56:13] | justinh: | confusi0n: try 1.1 timestretch. bet you find it plays just fine |
| [19:56:18] | justinh: | or 0.9 timestretch |
| [19:56:23] | justinh: | anything but 1.0 |
| [19:57:05] | confusi0n: | i'll give it a go... |
| [19:57:46] | justinh: | confusi0n: when I've discussed it with somebody who knows a good deal more than me about mythtv, he reckoned it looked a hell of a lot like the buffering code slipping about something silly. |
| [19:57:50] | confusi0n: | iamlindoro, i configured and reconfigured it for a solid two days... unless i'm missing something obscure it's not the configuration |
| [19:58:28] | iamlindoro_: | unfortunately, duration of configuration has no bearing on correctness of configuration |
| [19:58:44] | iamlindoro_: | or we'd hear from all sorts of people with perfectly configured boxen |
| [19:58:48] | justinh: | confusi0n: basically, it ends up overshooting & undershooting like no tomorrow |
| [19:58:59] | Dagmar: | In real life, you don't get partial credit for "trying reel hard" |
| [19:59:24] | justinh: | mostly showed itself on BBC recordings which funnily enough tend to have a higher bitrate than anything else on freeview |
| [19:59:24] | Dagmar: | You especially don't get credit for hyperbole |
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| [20:00:09] | justinh: | I also found that stripping all the shite out of the recorded streams with ffmpeg -i $file -acodec copy -vcodec copy $outputfile ... they played fine |
| [20:00:39] | justinh: | aaand I also found that when I tried a knoppmyth livecd with the same system it was just fine! |
| [20:00:43] | justinh: | also ubuntu |
| [20:00:53] | justinh: | so it's possibly a combination of issues |
| [20:01:13] | justinh: | I didn't stick with ubuntu because digital audio out didn't always behave itself |
| [20:01:42] | justinh: | and FYI, mplayer & xine worked juuuust fine |
| [20:02:34] | justinh: | I would've been tempted to hack about in the buffering code but at the time the epia machine wasn't at all suited to building myth from scratch |
| [20:02:35] | confusi0n: | just tried with the time stretch... same problems and no errors from mythfrontend |
| [20:02:39] | confusi0n: | it's a bit bizarre |
| [20:03:00] | justinh: | you tried disabling.enabling extra audio buffering / aggressive audio buffering? |
| [20:03:10] | justinh: | one of those really messes xvmc up |
| [20:05:51] | confusi0n: | just tried now, no change unfortunately |
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| [20:06:08] | confusi0n: | i should mention that moving from ffmpeg to xvmc creates a lot of buffer underrun errors |
| [20:06:23] | justinh: | well, you should be using xvmc anyway |
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| [20:06:47] | confusi0n: | yeah i've been trying xvmc-vld |
| [20:07:04] | confusi0n: | the ffmpeg should work you see as well. given how mplayer will play it fine using ffmpeg |
| [20:07:22] | confusi0n: | so i figure the problem isn't xvmc specific |
| [20:07:43] | justinh: | mplayer doesn't deinterlace by default though |
| [20:07:55] | justinh: | try comparing like with like :) |
| [20:10:15] | iamlindoro_: | Oh come on, OpenOffice isn't working but vi is FINE, OO sucks! |
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| [20:10:52] | confusi0n: | can i turn off deinterlacing in mythtv? just to try? |
| [20:11:43] | justinh: | myers you can, Mister Presidente |
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| [20:11:47] | iamlindoro_: | With no disrespect intended, why are you using trunk if you don't know that? |
| [20:13:24] | jduggan: | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/sony_re . . . pid_piece_of |
| [20:13:55] | justinh: | I prefer the one about videogames preparing kids for the future |
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| [20:15:49] | justinh: | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/congres . . . s_preemptive is excellent too |
| [20:16:10] | justinh: | as is http://www.theonion.com/content/video/spam_crackdown_threatens |
| [20:16:17] | jduggan: | hehe |
| [20:16:27] | confusi0n: | iamlindoro, you've been nothing but disrespectful throughout the course of this discussion and frankly i find your obnoxious attitude comparable to that of a child. though i am no mythtv developer i do have a fair amount of experience with linux and with using cvs and svn branches of various projects. since i had no luck using xvmc-vld with the stable release i decided to give svn a go, and sure enough xvmc-vld com |
| [20:16:27] | confusi0n: | piled and worked for me, albeit the audio problems. i was unaware that the mythtv-guru driving license was a prerequisite for decency from fellow users/developers |
| [20:17:05] | ** iamlindoro_ yawns ** | |
| [20:17:39] | justinh: | jduggan: you can watch them with mythnews if you wiggle the setup right :) |
| [20:17:53] | jduggan: | heh, i'll have to look into that |
| [20:18:09] | confusi0n: | wow, what wit! with snappy retorts like that you must be the highest in your class! |
| [20:18:27] | justinh: | shock, horror.. mythtv already had a streaming video downloadifier client doobrey |
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| [20:22:52] | iamlindoro_: | confusi0n: Since apparently you're interested in prodding me into a more verbose, sure, I'll oblige-- Your questions betray your total cluelessness with myth and while you might not know it, myth's trunk is far less likely to work in general, let alone for the criminally retarded. Secondly, I've more or less carried on a conversation with justin and poken directly to you all of twice, neither of which called into question you as a person. Bu |
| [20:23:08] | iamlindoro_: | There, was that adequately offensive? Now if you decide to cry like a baby some more at least I'll deserve it. |
| [20:23:44] | iamlindoro_: | welcome to IRC, grow the fuck up |
| [20:24:16] | ** jamiem hides ** | |
| [20:24:23] | _abbenormal: | lmao |
| [20:24:38] | ** Shadow__X :) ** | |
| [20:24:46] | ** sphery wonders why so many IRC clients fail to realize there's a built-in limit to the length of IRC messages ** | |
| [20:25:02] | meshe: | sphery: because that's set per server |
| [20:25:04] | sphery: | I think we missed the good parts |
| [20:25:16] | iamlindoro_: | sphery: where'd it end? |
| [20:25:17] | jamiem: | meshe: it is; but usually announced by the server |
| [20:25:24] | meshe: | jamiem: true |
| [20:25:26] | justinh: | Bu |
| [20:25:28] | sphery: | "person. Bu" |
| [20:25:34] | iamlindoro_: | " But since you seem to crave that, I'll oblige again-- You are clearly ill-equipped to run myth in general, let alone trunk. You're fat, and nobody likes you. " |
| [20:25:38] | iamlindoro_: | the end |
| [20:25:53] | meshe: | ok, i change my original answer: because the irc client devs were lazy? |
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| [20:26:31] | sphery: | That sounds more like it |
| [20:26:37] | confusi0n: | wow |
| [20:26:42] | confusi0n: | i come back from the phone to find this? |
| [20:26:44] | sphery: | iamlindoro_: is there a split-long-messages plugin for your client? |
| [20:26:50] | iamlindoro_: | sphery: probably |
| [20:27:00] | iamlindoro_: | sphery: XChat usually gets it right, but it annoys me on Mac OS |
| [20:27:04] | jamiem: | iamlindoro_: I am not calling you here, but there are a zillion examples on Google of -itsoffset and -acodec copy |
| [20:27:12] | jamiem: | I am, however, experiencing what /you/ said |
| [20:27:19] | meshe: | i was just thinking that thats how i would write the client, split into more than 1 PRIVMSG's |
| [20:27:31] | justinh: | hmmm. who is right... google or FACT? |
| [20:27:37] | jamiem: | hehe |
| [20:27:49] | iamlindoro_: | jamiem: I could be wrong about that, was under the impression it wouldn't work, but if you get it working, more power to you |
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| [20:28:34] | J-e-f-f-A|work: | meshe: btw – here's my 'bigclock' font, and several variants of characters I threw around in 'paint'... http://mysite.verizon.net/~jartz/files/lcd/bi . . . _design.html |
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| [20:32:42] | meshe: | nice work J-e-f-f-A|work, sorry, was in the middle of running a shopping card through the perl debugger |
| [20:33:45] | meshe: | s/card/cart/ |
| [20:34:11] | confusi0n: | iamlindoro, please don't profess to tell me how 'qualified' i am to run an application. you have never met me, nor have you ever read me, and you are basing your analysis on the pre-perceived cliche of people you have stockpiled so that you can dish out a painfully rehearsed tired critique when an opportunity to impress your peers presents itself. i have a stereotypical view to hand as well! i've met many people who |
| [20:34:11] | confusi0n: | fit your bill... they're typically lonely underachievers who despite being utterly book-fed in nature somehow fail to submit anything of worth to the communities they follow. your young, inexperienced and hollier-than-though attitude betrays the fact that you are likely a snivelling toad worthy of nobodies time who hasn't spent a day apart from his parents |
| [20:35:06] | iamlindoro_: | That's me, lonely underachiever, never contributed a single thing to myth or any other community. You got me pegged alright! |
| [20:35:09] | ** iamlindoro_ yawns again ** | |
| [20:35:38] | justinh: | starting to read like that hate email I used to get |
| [20:35:46] | Shadow__X: | lol |
| [20:36:27] | confusi0n: | you don't speak with the wisdom of an experienced and mature individual. you speak with the attitude of a boy who's pissed at his father |
| [20:36:44] | ** jamiem mumbles something about possessive pronouns ** | |
| [20:36:45] | iamlindoro_: | oooh, right again! Ah, the harsh light of day, it burns! |
| [20:36:51] | Dagmar: | I smell another troll |
| [20:37:18] | confusi0n: | you do? would you like to scroll back a few pages and ask yourself who began trolling this conversation in the first place? |
| [20:37:20] | Dagmar: | "Wah wah wah people on IRC refuse to reed to mee... wah wah... I will type a lot of long-winded bullshit to try to hurt their feelings" |
| [20:37:26] | iamlindoro_: | These tears of unexpected but inevitable introspection taste so sweet! |
| [20:37:46] | Dagmar: | c0nf: If you don't like it, fuck off already then. |
| [20:37:52] | ** kormoc sighs ** | |
| [20:37:52] | confusi0n: | hey, i'm just describing what i see |
| [20:37:59] | kormoc: | Everyone, calm down |
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| [20:38:15] | gbee: | ok guys enough, quite qilling to kick the lot of you if it brings peace to the rest of us |
| [20:38:21] | gbee: | willing |
| [20:38:22] | jams: | oh good kormoc is here, me heads back to the other window |
| [20:38:25] | jams: | and gbee |
| [20:38:28] | confusi0n: | i did like the advice i was receiving from the thankfully more prevalent helpful members here |
| [20:38:46] | confusi0n: | and was provoked by iamlindoro's comments |
| [20:39:00] | kormoc: | I don't care about reasons or what not, it stops here |
| [20:39:03] | confusi0n: | which were unnecessary |
| [20:39:38] | Dagmar: | The twenty line diatribe was unnecessary |
| [20:39:45] | Dagmar: | Continuing to whine like a baby is unnecessary |
| [20:39:56] | gbee: | confusi0n: that is why the creators of IRC had the foresight to add /ignore to the spec |
| [20:40:53] | gbee: | and the rest of you should know better than to get involved in this crap |
| [20:40:57] | Dagmar: | What iamlindoro has said with respect to trunk requiring more than casual knowledge is entirely correct |
| [20:41:09] | Dagmar: | Configuring Myth is painful enough WITHOUT being clueless about what you're doing. |
| [20:41:11] | confusi0n: | your solution to trolling of newcomers to a help channel is that after a less-than-ideal incident occurs, users are advised to use /ignore? |
| [20:41:20] | mchou: | lol |
| [20:41:20] | Dagmar: | Trunk only magnifies that |
| [20:41:32] | mchou: | confusi0n: right on |
| [20:41:34] | confusi0n: | Dagmar, you find nothing provocative and obnoxious about his tone and trollish nature? |
| [20:41:35] | gbee: | Dagmar: seriously, let it go |
| [20:41:43] | Dagmar: | Absolutely, when they whine for this much longer than the actual snub they recieved. |
| [20:41:49] | kormoc: | ... |
| [20:41:53] | Dagmar: | LIke, right now, I'm dumping you into my ignore list. |
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| [20:42:00] | Dagmar: | It works great. |
| [20:44:19] | andreax1: | Is RobertCL (author of that mythtv vista-widget) here ? |
| [20:45:26] | iamlindoro_: | andreax: Don't think so, but I believe he's active on the user list |
| [20:45:42] | kormoc: | confusi0n, Sadly, we're a jaded bunch and tend to be more harsh then required. I wish it wasn't so, but it is. The trick to fitting into this channel is to not take it personally. I can't count how many times I've been insulted in here. It's just meaningless blabble. iamlindorom is actually a helpful guy, as is Dagmar, when they feel like the person has done enough research. When they get moody, assume it's because it's answered somewhere else, |
| [20:45:42] | kormoc: | or wait for another helpful soul, provoking them more isn't worthwhile in the least. |
| [20:46:07] | andreax1: | Thanks, thanks. I write a Mail to him. I got some Feedback and asks for lil improvements. |
| [20:46:31] | ** iamlindoro_ pushes kormoc down in the mud, points, and laughs ** | |
| [20:46:32] | iamlindoro_: | ;) |
| [20:46:59] | sphery: | Did Nelson just say, "Ha! Ha!" |
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| [20:47:18] | Nelson_: | Ha! Ha! |
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| [20:47:28] | iamlindoro_: | haha |
| [20:47:30] | andreax1: | rofl... :) |
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| [20:48:15] | gbee: | spend any time online and you learn to develop a thick skin and to ignore people |
| [20:49:00] | meshe: | escpecially in IRC |
| [20:49:19] | kormoc: | Huh, my ignore list is surprisingly short, phunguy, clever, dustybin and mchou |
| [20:49:58] | iamlindoro_: | haha, that list should be distributed with IRC clients |
| [20:50:21] | Dagmar: | I don't have a problem with his unhelpability, I've a problem with that he's ignoring what he's been told (i.e., that the hardware is questionably-powered at best, that trunk isn't what you start with, that the buffering code is a little quirky to begin with) |
| [20:50:22] | confusi0n: | kormoc, it's all good... i'll be the first to admit that i escalated the whole affair... i'll not discuss it any further publicly |
| [20:50:43] | ** confusi0n sigs ** | |
| [20:51:14] | confusi0n: | there's a 'h' in there somewhere |
| [20:51:53] | gbee: | ugh, Heroes has just forgotten it's own history/backstory, quickest way for any show to jump the shark in my opinion – forget what you told viewers in the last season or episode |
| [20:52:13] | iamlindoro_: | gbee: I enjoy when wives/children get forgotten/ignored entirely |
| [20:53:09] | Dagmar: | Especially children. |
| [20:53:19] | Dagmar: | If no one notices them, are they really gone? |
| [20:53:37] | Shadow__X: | no they never stay quiet |
| [20:54:00] | Dagmar: | TUrn off the tree chipper when you're not using it then |
| [20:54:22] | sphery: | meshe: So, though servers can have specific max-message lengths, none may exceed 512 characters (see Section "2.3 Messages" at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2812.txt ). So, you'd think clients would get it right (especially since it's been like that since the original IRC – http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1459.txt ). |
| [20:54:27] | justinh: | if I don't delete Heroes maybe myth will autoexpire it |
| [20:54:27] | gbee: | this time it's Sylar's father flashback ... "look daddy murdered people in the exact same way that I do!" ... err, but that makes no sense at all |
| [20:54:50] | gbee: | this is what I get for watching a series about Comic book characters ... |
| [20:54:56] | confusi0n: | well to those who were more accommodating, thanks for the help... if i decide to look further into the problems i'm experiencing with playback on either stable or svn i'll be sure to post to the mailing list instead |
| [20:55:09] | sphery: | yeah, how is it that some abilities are inherited exactly and for others, the kids get completely different abilities? |
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| [20:55:22] | ** gbee will stick to the adult tv from now on ** | |
| [20:55:28] | sphery: | heh |
| [20:55:48] | jamiem: | I wonder what dogs make of tap water |
| [20:55:53] | Dagmar: | Some people tamper with their kid's DNS tho |
| [20:55:53] | sphery: | Wonder which meaning of "adult TV" that was supposed to be... |
| [20:55:55] | Dagmar: | er DNA |
| [20:56:18] | meshe: | oh sphery, ended up buying season 1 of pushing daisies this weekend |
| [20:57:00] | gbee: | sphery: this makes even less sense, since Sylar didn't inherit the telekinesis power he took it from someone else ... so a) his father had the same power b) killed people using it in an identical manner |
| [20:57:26] | ** gbee suspects that either it is a gaping plot hole or that it will turn out that Sylar is his own father ** | |
| [20:57:41] | iamlindoro_: | gbee: exept if that were true, he couldn't be dying |
| [20:58:00] | gbee: | iamlindoro_: haven't got that far yet :) |
| [20:58:00] | Shadow__X: | lol |
| [20:58:05] | ** iamlindoro_ worries he just jumped and episdoe...yeah ** | |
| [20:58:13] | Shadow__X: | what if matt is playing a trick on all of us |
| [20:58:13] | iamlindoro_: | jumped an episode, that is |
| [20:58:24] | iamlindoro_: | Heroes *is* a trick on all of us |
| [20:58:26] | Shadow__X: | or rewritting sylars memory |
| [20:58:39] | iamlindoro_: | It's like X-men, but without all the good characters, plots, or storylines |
| [20:58:59] | Shadow__X: | new wolverine movie coming out |
| [21:00:22] | gbee: | normally have no interest in comic book stuff, didn't grow up reading them or in a country obsessed with the things |
| [21:00:24] | iamlindoro_: | I had hopes for the second half of this season, with Bryan Fuller (Pushing Daisies creator/writer) out of a job and writing the second part, but that's not been borne out yet |
| [21:01:03] | gbee: | approached Heroes more from a Sci-Fi angle, but finding it pretty incoherent at times :/ |
| [21:03:40] | gbee: | whole thing feels like they don't really know what they want from it, they came up with the concept and characters but they are making up the story as they go along – it's entertaining and a decent distraction for 45 minutes a week but ... |
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| [21:04:12] | iamlindoro_: | I think it's neat/fun that of a few dozen characters they can only come up with 5 powers :) |
| [21:04:18] | JEDIDIAH__: | ...a son taking after his father. Imagine that. |
| [21:06:02] | JEDIDIAH__: | the splitting the head open thing was the only power that's his. |
| [21:06:28] | sphery: | meshe: enjoy Daisies... |
| [21:06:54] | sphery: | I just hope the air the last 3(? or 4?) episodes from Season 2 this summer. |
| [21:06:57] | gbee: | nope, first victim – he bashed the guys head open before taking the telekinesis |
| [21:07:18] | Shadow__X: | his power is to understand the way things work |
| [21:07:18] | meshe: | i am, we went through the first 2 discs on saturday |
| [21:07:24] | meshe: | it's a great show |
| [21:07:31] | meshe: | but only 9 eps for the first season? |
| [21:08:05] | iamlindoro_: | meshe: Writer's strik |
| [21:08:08] | iamlindoro_: | strike, that is |
| [21:08:16] | meshe: | ahhh, yeah, forgot about that |
| [21:08:25] | meshe: | how many are in season 2? and did they cancel it? |
| [21:08:26] | iamlindoro_: | The shortness of season 2 you can attribute to the suck of ABC |
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| [21:08:37] | JEDIDIAH__: | ...a reason to watch the reruns I suppose. Get anal about every little detail. |
| [21:08:39] | iamlindoro_: | 13 (10 aired), and yes, they did, the jerkfaces |
| [21:08:46] | JEDIDIAH__: | The BBC does that too (short seasons for some shows) |
| [21:08:55] | meshe: | :( |
| [21:09:20] | JEDIDIAH__: | ...a bunch of geek programmers getting anal about every little detail. Imagine that... |
| [21:09:23] | meshe: | Dead Like Me all over again, didn't notice that one until it was cancelled either |
| [21:09:24] | JEDIDIAH__: | '-) |
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| [21:09:43] | gbee: | suspect Daisies didn't leave itself anywhere to go, the unusual style isn't so unusual after a dozen episodes and the storylines all boil down to a simple who-dun-it, the oldest formula in the book |
| [21:10:10] | ** JEDIDIAH__ contemplates his collection of b&w whodunits... ** | |
| [21:10:32] | iamlindoro_: | gbee: Have you guys gotten the second season over there? It was definitely going somewhere, had become much more serialized |
| [21:10:44] | gbee: | iamlindoro_: half way through it atm |
| [21:10:48] | iamlindoro_: | gbee: While the core weekly mystery was there, at least half the time was in furtherance of a single plot |
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| [21:11:03] | meshe: | just found out that I can add my fm tuner into my sources in myth, going to set that up and start recording the radio shows on sunday nights |
| [21:11:45] | iamlindoro_: | meshe: TTBOMK Myth has no FM support whatsoever |
| [21:12:09] | meshe: | it's at the bottom of the fm_tuner page in the wiki |
| [21:12:11] | JEDIDIAH__: | is it possible to record audio only for sat music channels? |
| [21:13:41] | meshe: | "The Shadow knows" |
| [21:13:43] | kormoc: | not currently |
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| [21:14:04] | JEDIDIAH__: | ...just a thought |
| [21:14:37] | iamlindoro_: | meshe: Yes, there are some hacks, but myth doesn't understand it as an FM tuner as such (as I understand it) |
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| [21:15:13] | sphery: | and Internal player hates them (if you record externally) |
| [21:15:26] | meshe: | true, it would think it was a tv channel with video that doesn't change, i'd have to rip the audio out of the files after |
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| [21:15:38] | kormoc: | meshe, and if you're listening to the radio and a recording goes, myth doesn't know the card's already in use and Bad Things (TM) happen |
| [21:15:55] | sphery: | unless you use EXECTV to start the app |
| [21:16:05] | sphery: | but then you miss your recording... |
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| [21:16:30] | sphery: | (which, I suppose, is still a Bad Thing (TM)) |
| [21:16:46] | iamlindoro_: | It also causes teen pregnancy |
| [21:16:56] | meshe: | not that radio recordings are such a bad thing, just something neat to play with |
| [21:17:50] | meshe: | my husband has been asking about pulling a fm radio stream through to the computer room because "That tuner card we bought has an FM tuner" |
| [21:18:18] | iamlindoro_: | tell him he doesn't know what it has and ask him when your laundry will be done. ;) |
| [21:18:34] | meshe: | LOL |
| [21:19:06] | ** meshe wonders if she closed her screen session on her desktop at home ** | |
| [21:19:34] | meshe: | he did the laundry yesterday and the shopping today |
| [21:21:02] | iamlindoro_: | Then again, whither the HAF if he can't use radio ;) |
| [21:21:31] | iamlindoro_: | don't get a lot of HAF around these parts |
| [21:21:41] | meshe: | hehe |
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| [21:23:26] | iamlindoro_: | Allegedly those radio sharks can be cajoled into working in linux |
| [21:23:35] | iamlindoro_: | output is a wav file |
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| [21:25:59] | meshe: | it's the pvr-350 we have |
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| [21:26:42] | ** jamiem tries VirtualDub in WINE, in desperation ** | |
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| [21:27:05] | iamlindoro_: | jamiem: Played with avidemux2 yet? |
| [21:27:16] | jamiem: | iamlindoro_: it was that that gave me the problem! |
| [21:27:21] | iamlindoro_: | ahhh |
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| [21:28:25] | ** jamiem curses ** | |
| [21:29:01] | jamiem: | actually, I might be able to use avidemux on this other file |
| [21:29:02] | iamlindoro_: | jamiem: Avidemux *will* do an audio ofset, so if you know what you need now, you could go back and redo your original operation with the offst |
| [21:29:11] | iamlindoro_: | offset, that is |
| [21:29:28] | jamiem: | iamlindoro_: stop showing off in front of your peers! |
| [21:30:12] | jamiem: | :P |
| [21:30:20] | ** iamlindoro_ leaves jamiem to his own devices ** | |
| [21:30:26] | jamiem: | my own /dev ? |
| [21:30:39] | justinh: | yeah you smart people who know stuff. stop sharing your knowledge & showing off! |
| [21:30:52] | ** jamiem mknods iamlindoro_'s devices ** | |
| [21:31:11] | iamlindoro_: | cat /dev/sass > #mythtv-users |
| [21:31:27] | iamlindoro_: | rm -f /dev/senseOfHumor |
| [21:31:41] | meshe: | cat /dev/random | #mythtv-users |
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| [21:32:01] | jamiem: | hmm |
| [21:32:08] | jamiem: | avidemux appears to have just set the delay in the avi header :/ |
| [21:32:43] | ** jamiem changes container ** | |
| [21:32:47] | iamlindoro_: | AVI is a yucky container, not that you asked |
| [21:32:57] | jamiem: | lol |
| [21:33:08] | ** justinh looks in the container. eeew. sticky stuff ** | |
| [21:33:20] | jamiem: | justinh: yeah, sorry about that. |
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| [21:33:48] | iamlindoro_: | Not that there's a perfect container, but MP4 is okay and even MKV has grown on me a bit |
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| [21:33:59] | kormoc: | write your own? |
| [21:34:09] | iamlindoro_: | I'll leave that to smart people :) |
| [21:34:31] | jamiem: | .iam |
| [21:35:11] | iamlindoro_: | I would like to eventually look at attachment support for MKV in Mythvideo, though |
| [21:35:22] | iamlindoro_: | at least cover files and chapters, anyway |
| [21:35:47] | janneg: | iamlindoro_: they already did: ffmpeg devs wrote nut |
| [21:35:54] | jamiem: | ooer I might have managed it with avidemux + mp4 |
| [21:36:16] | iamlindoro_: | janneg: Sounds so much like NUV it *must* be good! ;) |
| [21:36:41] | jamiem: | iamlindoro_: is that like meta-data and shit? |
| [21:37:09] | iamlindoro_: | jamiem: Metadata, attached image files, chapters, etc.... those are the things the MKV-lovers go ga-ga over |
| [21:37:19] | jamiem: | ja |
| [21:37:22] | iamlindoro_: | but now ffmpeg supports most of that natively, without needing to resort to libmatroska |
| [21:37:25] | jamiem: | poster art :) |
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| [21:39:17] | iamlindoro_: | poster art is old news, Mythvideo now supports all KINDS of art :) |
| [21:39:29] | jamiem: | o.O |
| [21:39:30] | iamlindoro_: | </seflcongratulation> |
| [21:39:37] | iamlindoro_: | s/sefl/self/ |
| [21:39:47] | jamiem: | Hooray for sefl! |
| [21:39:50] | jamiem: | oh |
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| [21:40:11] | iamlindoro_: | jamiem: www.fecitfacta.com/01x01-support.ogg |
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| [21:41:24] | jamiem: | "Badly interleaved AVI file detected" ... aww man |
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| [21:42:03] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, so when you jumping into php? ;) |
| [21:42:16] | ** jamiem keeps it mp4 ** | |
| [21:43:46] | iamlindoro_: | kormoc: My C++ is embarrassing enough, better not to befoul another language ;) |
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| [21:44:34] | iamlindoro_: | kormoc: besides, All that will be in python shortly anyway |
| [21:44:39] | meshe: | i just did a big project in php writing code for Joomla, never coded in it much before, but it's not too bad |
| [21:45:09] | kormoc: | If it's done right, php is really nice |
| [21:45:30] | jamiem: | grumph |
| [21:45:32] | meshe: | yeah, the Joomla project is all OO and MVC, it was nice to work with |
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| [21:51:06] | markyd: | hi all |
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| [22:14:18] | jamiem: | hell's teeth! |
| [22:14:21] | jamiem: | my ~/.wine is 14G |
| [22:17:07] | iamlindoro: | .wine = c:\ |
| [22:17:22] | jamiem: | well |
| [22:17:33] | jamiem: | ~/.wine/drive_c/ for me |
| [22:17:39] | iamlindoro: | right, but more or less |
| [22:18:04] | jamiem: | ya |
| [22:19:17] | jamiem: | is there a decent http wap/webmail client or do I need to script one? |
| [22:19:41] | meshe: | gmail |
| [22:19:45] | jamiem: | h0h0 |
| [22:20:00] | jamiem: | I suppose I could look at it's remote mail features |
| [22:20:23] | meshe: | imap, pop, smtp, wap, iphone... |
| [22:20:43] | jamiem: | yeah but I get pissed off with its SLA |
| [22:20:45] | jamiem: | ER |
| [22:20:55] | jamiem: | single login authentication doodah |
| [22:21:08] | jamiem: | I check gmail and suddenly it's logging my Google Searches |
| [22:21:19] | jamiem: | hotdog sex |
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| [22:21:24] | meshe: | ahhh |
| [22:21:39] | jamiem: | sex between hotdogs .... not sure what YOU were thinking >> |
| [22:22:14] | meshe: | unless i was trying to do something totally illegal, i don't really care what google logs about me |
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| [22:22:23] | meshe: | as long as they don't publish/sell it |
| [22:23:16] | jamiem: | quite |
| [22:23:22] | jamiem: | oh and they won't be evil ..... |
| [22:24:18] | meshe: | eh, they might be, which is why i fought against using google analytics in our shopping cart at work, but my personal info is less important |
| [22:24:51] | jamiem: | :) |
| [22:25:07] | jamiem: | what's url for mobile gmail? I see 'mobile' as a view option but it's no hyperlink |
| [22:25:18] | meshe: | http://m.gmail.com |
| [22:25:31] | jamiem: | heh |
| [22:25:33] | jamiem: | was just trying that :) |
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| [22:27:08] | jamiem: | hmm |
| [22:27:12] | jamiem: | I can't see my foldered mail |
| [22:27:28] | meshe: | there should be a menu button or something |
| [22:27:49] | jamiem: | I selected "All mail" |
| [22:28:33] | jamiem: | oh wait: wrong account |
| [22:28:35] | jamiem: | :/ |
| [22:28:52] | meshe: | hehe |
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| [22:39:08] | jamiem: | so in the last minute I've changed my mind |
| [22:39:18] | jamiem: | I don't want gmail to see my imap |
| [22:39:27] | jamiem: | ... having re-read their TOS |
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| [22:40:50] | meshe: | we own everythings that we ever touch!!! muhahahaha... er wait, we aren't evil... mew |
| [22:41:01] | jamiem: | hehehe |
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| [22:42:15] | ** jamiem hasn't tried squirrelmail for a while ** | |
| [22:44:24] | meshe: | i had enough of hosting my own email after getting to do it for a large company |
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| [22:45:48] | jamiem: | wot no ldap support? |
| [22:46:07] | meshe: | yeah, we have ldap |
| [22:46:20] | jamiem: | no, I mean squirrelmail. I appears to want to use [my]sql |
| [22:46:27] | meshe: | haha |
| [22:46:27] | kormoc: | ldap is it's own fun ball of sadness |
| [22:46:38] | iamlindoro: | that ball of sadness is a BIG ball |
| [22:47:03] | meshe: | once it's working right, ldap can be a huge headache saver |
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| [22:47:33] | jamiem: | I concur |
| [22:48:50] | jamiem: | grrr |
| [22:48:54] | jamiem: | it's just one decision after another! |
| [22:49:03] | jamiem: | do I want my mail to be churned up by Opera's servers .... |
| [22:52:38] | ** jamiem is now scared of RoundCube ** | |
| [22:53:07] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [22:53:12] | kormoc: | roundcube is kinda snazzy |
| [22:53:21] | jamiem: | in a "get your server rooted" way? |
| [22:53:35] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [22:53:47] | kormoc: | The most it could do on mine is have access to it's database.... |
| [22:55:14] | ** jamiem mumbles ** | |
| [22:55:22] | jamiem: | anyway – it uses ajax too much so probably not the best wap client |
| [22:55:51] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [22:55:59] | jamiem: | WHAT?! |
| [22:56:19] | jamiem: | ajax/js is client-side processing intensive, right? |
| [22:56:29] | jamiem: | and mobile devices are not known for the petaflops |
| [22:56:40] | kormoc: | Aye, but WAP never would support that anyway... |
| [22:56:50] | jamiem: | this is true |
| [22:56:51] | kormoc: | it's not that it's too much, it that it has any at all |
| [22:57:06] | kormoc: | and why would you go for a desktop style app for WAP access? |
| [22:57:06] | jamiem: | by 'wap' I was being lazy meaning "new devices like iPhone and shizzy" |
| [22:57:19] | kormoc: | iphone has native imap/pop3 support, why use a web client? |
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| [22:57:31] | jamiem: | so does my N95 but I don't like it |
| [22:57:33] | Spyro: | hi |
| [22:57:36] | jamiem: | hi Spyro |
| [22:57:48] | Spyro: | My mythbox wont work anymore |
| [22:57:57] | jamiem: | erk o/t |
| [22:57:58] | Spyro: | so I deleted all the inputs / cards / etc. |
| [22:58:04] | ** jamiem takes his e-mail talk elsewhere ** | |
| [22:58:06] | Spyro: | and recreated them |
| [22:58:40] | Spyro: | now it still doesnt work |
| [22:58:50] | Spyro: | but it doesnt work in a different way |
| [22:59:36] | kormoc: | Well... you could actually describe the broken behavior... |
| [22:59:50] | Spyro: | EntryToProgram(0@Thu Jan 1 01:00:00 1970) failed to get pginfo |
| [22:59:50] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, what's so hard about a different way? Get with it! |
| [23:00:00] | Spyro: | would seem to be the point of failurre |
| [23:00:03] | iamlindoro: | Spyro, frontend longs don't help, read your backend logs |
| [23:00:15] | iamlindoro: | and when you do, pastebin, don't just select lines that look silly to you |
| [23:00:16] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: where do I find those? |
| [23:00:24] | iamlindoro: | wherever you have set them to be |
| [23:00:32] | iamlindoro: | usually in /var/log if you have smart packagers |
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| [23:02:26] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: there doesnt appear to be anything but errors about being unable to delete some files |
| [23:02:31] | jamiem: | . o O ( I think I'll script my own ) |
| [23:02:37] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: its LiveTV thats not working |
| [23:02:52] | iamlindoro: | Spyro, Again, don't describe logs to us |
| [23:03:01] | iamlindoro: | use a pastebin and *show* us |
| [23:03:23] | iamlindoro: | I'll bet you a *million* dollars the error at hand is in your backend log |
| [23:04:00] | jduggan: | the dollar is worthless |
| [23:04:05] | jduggan: | i want more than a million |
| [23:04:05] | ** kormoc sighs ** | |
| [23:04:07] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: Im not daft. The logs is 49000 lines long I dont think you want it pastebinned. |
| [23:04:14] | iamlindoro: | jduggan, Especially when you consider I mean zimbabwean dollars |
| [23:04:20] | jduggan: | =] |
| [23:04:40] | iamlindoro: | Spyro, clear the log, restart your backend, make the problem happen, and pastebin the logs |
| [23:04:43] | ** kormoc wonders if Spyro has ever heard of logrotate ** | |
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| [23:04:49] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: the ONLY lines in the last few hundred log entries are about files it cant find to delete, and 'expiring X MBytes' |
| [23:04:56] | ** iamlindoro gives up ** | |
| [23:05:02] | iamlindoro: | not worth begging to help |
| [23:05:12] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: sorry, but I *can* recognise info that isnt relevant. |
| [23:05:19] | Dagmar: | Spyro: Props to you for showing restraint versus pastebin, but you're wrong about iamlindoro being daft |
| [23:05:35] | Dagmar: | ...although he's not daft enough to want 49,000 lines of paste. |
| [23:05:36] | Spyro: | Dagmar: I didnt say iamlindoro was daft |
| [23:05:44] | kormoc: | well |
| [23:06:13] | kormoc: | Spyro, let's put it this way. What you gave us doesn't help. If you can't/won't produce anything else, there isn't a lot we can do, ya know? |
| [23:06:18] | Dagmar: | Spyro: My mistake. Had you said it however, you'd have been correct just the same. :) |
| [23:06:22] | Spyro: | mind you, that million dollars would come in handy |
| [23:06:33] | Spyro: | Dagmar: no prob :) |
| [23:06:50] | iamlindoro: | I really need to reduce the dosage on my crazy pills |
| [23:06:57] | Dagmar: | Just move the old log to one side and then kick the backend/frontend to make it malfunction again |
| [23:07:14] | Dagmar: | If you wind up with another 49,000 lines, we'll show you how to easily remove the crap |
| [23:07:17] | Spyro: | kormoc: True. However, what was asked for is _not going to_ help either. Since I dont know what further to give, then someone who knows the system will need to take a guess |
| [23:07:27] | Dagmar: | Noooo.... Guessing is madness. |
| [23:07:33] | kormoc: | I really need a new job... PHP/MySQL Developer, Seattle area! https://www.kormoc.com/resume/ (Go google baiting!) |
| [23:07:39] | Dagmar: | People would be better off guessing at the pick-3 lotto |
| [23:07:44] | Spyro: | kormoc: Its like diagnosing a car. If it wont start and I tell you the alternator is _working_ then you should ask other questions. |
| [23:07:51] | kormoc: | erm |
| [23:07:53] | kormoc: | how do you know tho? |
| [23:08:00] | Dagmar: | Spyro: Excepting a car is relatively *simple* |
| [23:08:00] | iamlindoro: | Spyro, Once again, The backend log *will* help... when/if you choose the provide it |
| [23:08:20] | Spyro: | Dagmar: Analogies are supposed to simplify the situation :-) |
| [23:08:27] | Dagmar: | Only when they're apropos. |
| [23:08:29] | iamlindoro: | Spyro, The error from your frontend log which you pasted means *exactly* "the problem is on the backend, check that log." |
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| [23:08:32] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: if you want it, I'll email it to you. |
| [23:08:36] | Dagmar: | In this case, you're trying to diagnose an ECU problem |
| [23:08:43] | iamlindoro: | christ, it's just one of those days, it's it? |
| [23:08:47] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: but if it doesnt help, I want that million dollars... |
| [23:08:47] | Dagmar: | We can always tell you to replace the EDU |
| [23:08:48] | ** kormoc sighs ** | |
| [23:08:48] | iamlindoro: | truncate the log |
| [23:08:51] | iamlindoro: | restart the backend |
| [23:08:53] | Dagmar: | s/EDU/ECU/; |
| [23:08:54] | iamlindoro: | make the problem happen |
| [23:08:56] | iamlindoro: | pastebin the log |
| [23:08:57] | iamlindoro: | the end |
| [23:09:04] | kormoc: | Spyro, you really want a lot for free don'tcha? |
| [23:09:10] | Spyro: | Dagmar: you're talking to someone who has designed an ECU ;-) |
| [23:09:39] | kormoc: | European Currency Unit? |
| [23:09:40] | Dagmar: | So then stop carping and cough up a log, man. There's literally 40–50 things that could go wrong and commonly will if you look at the box the wrong way |
| [23:09:47] | Dagmar: | Electronic Control Unit |
| [23:09:55] | kormoc: | ooh |
| [23:09:57] | Dagmar: | i.e., "the really f**king expensive bit that makes eveyrthing else not work" |
| [23:10:06] | kormoc: | Can't that be as simple as a switch? |
| [23:10:13] | Dagmar: | Oh hell no |
| [23:10:20] | kormoc: | cause that controls electronics.... in a way... |
| [23:10:30] | Dagmar: | Usually they're in what looks like a bulletproof box with at least a dozen wires running in and out of htem |
| [23:10:39] | kormoc: | ooh, those things |
| [23:10:57] | Dagmar: | Controls everything from the "Check engine" light to the "Device that goes PING" |
| [23:11:11] | jduggan: | microwave |
| [23:11:15] | Dagmar: | I almost never figured out WTF the device that goes ping really did |
| [23:11:46] | Spyro: | It keeps the hospital admins happy :-) |
| [23:11:55] | Spyro: | better idea... *runs tail -f* |
| [23:12:13] | iamlindoro: | Criminy |
| [23:12:17] | kormoc: | cause a 49k log file is a good idea? |
| [23:12:21] | iamlindoro: | Can you just do as you're *asked*? |
| [23:12:22] | Dagmar: | Well, in the case of my little beemerskate, it's telling me we've crossed the temperature that means the elevated interstate on-ramp *may* in fact be an ice luge ride tonight |
| [23:12:39] | iamlindoro: | In this time we could have gotten the log, found the problem, and solved it |
| [23:13:52] | jams: | iamlindoro- udo ? |
| [23:13:55] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: you'd rather go through the 49k lines of log than only the lines that appear when the problem is provoked? |
| [23:14:04] | Dagmar: | We're admin-types. |
| [23:14:07] | Spyro: | be my guest... |
| [23:14:12] | Dagmar: | We don't look *directly* at 49k logs. |
| [23:14:18] | Dagmar: | We use grep to filter out the stuff we don't want to see. |
| [23:14:22] | iamlindoro: | Spyro, You ahve been asked *five times* to truncate (empty) the log, restart the backend, cause the problem, and paste the entire log |
| [23:14:32] | Dagmar: | ...or we ask someone move their log file out of the way and generate a newer, shorter one. |
| [23:14:38] | Dagmar: | *hemhem* |
| [23:14:39] | Spyro: | well i said I'd *email* it if you wanted it. |
| [23:14:44] | ** kormoc sighs ** | |
| [23:14:46] | iamlindoro: | xcjgkl/jl/gvbasdhlghasdghkl' |
| [23:14:48] | kormoc: | let's move on folks |
| [23:14:50] | iamlindoro: | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGH |
| [23:14:59] | iamlindoro: | must... obey...profanity...rule |
| [23:15:00] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: IM *not* pastebinning 49000 lines! |
| [23:15:12] | iamlindoro: | JESUS |
| [23:15:15] | iamlindoro: | empty the log |
| [23:15:17] | iamlindoro: | restart the backend |
| [23:15:20] | ** kormoc sighs ** | |
| [23:15:20] | iamlindoro: | cause the problem |
| [23:15:31] | iamlindoro: | pastebin the FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF^H^H^H^H^H^H LOG |
| [23:15:33] | Spyro: | that, and right now the machine is not co-operating so I *cant* give you the shorter one right now |
| [23:15:48] | kormoc: | KILLALL annoying_thread |
| [23:15:49] | iamlindoro: | then the log will be a few hundred lines and I can take my blood pressure medication |
| [23:15:54] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, agreed |
| [23:16:12] | iamlindoro: | no help for him |
| [23:16:15] | Spyro: | iamlindoro: perhaps listening to what people say might reduce your blood pressure? |
| [23:16:32] | Dagmar: | s/perhaps/perhaps people who want help/; |
| [23:16:35] | Dagmar: | Seriously |
| [23:17:17] | Spyro: | Look, I'm currently rebooting the bbox so I can generate the requested shorter log. The box is not co-operating. What *TF* do you want me to do in the meantime? |
| [23:17:28] | Dagmar: | Find your rubber chicken, and be ready to use it |
| [23:17:50] | Spyro: | heh |
| [23:17:55] | kormoc: | make sure it has a pulley in the middle |
| [23:18:08] | iamlindoro: | how appropriate, kormoc fights like a cow |
| [23:18:09] | Dagmar: | That woudln't be RFC-compliant tho. |
| [23:18:35] | iamlindoro: | It would be Threepwood-compliant, though |
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| [23:19:03] | Dagmar: | Ya gotta stick with RFC-compliant tools because otherwise people get their rubber-chickens with all that lead paint and broken glass from China |
| [23:19:04] | Spyro: | aha. now *this* log is interesting. I can actually see something useful in it |
| [23:19:32] | ** iamlindoro hopes kormoc got the MI references ** | |
| [23:19:42] | kormoc: | Ooh, I totally did |
| [23:19:56] | kormoc: | I love that game more then is healthy |
| [23:20:01] | iamlindoro: | As do I |
| [23:20:12] | ** iamlindoro puts on his "ask me about LOOM" pin ** | |
| [23:20:18] | meshe: | iamlindoro: is there a full moon tonight? |
| [23:20:38] | Spyro: | what permissions should the media directories have ? |
| [23:20:40] | iamlindoro: | meshe, It's my crazy pills, dose too high |
| [23:20:45] | meshe: | ahhh |
| [23:20:47] | kormoc: | Loom was great, although a tad short |
| [23:21:20] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, http://askmeaboutloom.ytmnd.com/ |
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| [23:21:24] | meshe: | dose too high attracts crazy? |
| [23:21:56] | iamlindoro: | evidently :) |
| [23:21:56] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, have you played any of the 'RunAway' games? |
| [23:22:21] | meshe: | anyway, off to see Coraline 3D, night all |
| [23:22:28] | ** kormoc waves ** | |
| [23:22:28] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, no, although I've heard of them-- modern adventure game, right? |
| [23:22:34] | iamlindoro: | meshe, It's great in 3D |
| [23:22:35] | iamlindoro: | loved it |
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| [23:22:43] | iamlindoro: | (and I love neil gaiman so that helps) |
| [23:22:55] | meshe: | iamlindoro: nice to hear, i'm looking forward to it |
| [23:23:01] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, Aye, reminded me a bit bout MI and all the other classic ones, Well worth the money/time imho |
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| [23:23:17] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, Cool, I'll have to dig it up |
| [23:23:31] | kormoc: | the second one is a bit of a tease, they did it as half the story, the third one will finish it, but no release date yet |
| [23:23:42] | kormoc: | they're on Steam :) |
| [23:23:48] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, The only recent adventure stuff I've played and loved has been TLJ and Dreamfall |
| [23:23:58] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, nice, wonder if they play nice with WINE |
| [23:24:19] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, The one advantage of modern adventure games is they're usually high enough res that playing them on the big projection screen is a treat |
| [23:24:35] | Dagmar: | Didn't you get the feeling that they ran out of money at teh studio making Dreamfall and had to cut it short? |
| [23:24:36] | kormoc: | Ahh, Dreamfall and TLJ is quite fun |
| [23:24:43] | iamlindoro: | oooh, it's rated Gold under WINE |
| [23:24:49] | Dagmar: | I thought it was pretty nice, but the ending was somewhat unusually abrupt |
| [23:24:51] | Spyro: | ok, one crashed database table fixed. |
| [23:24:53] | iamlindoro: | Dagmar, yes, especially after the epic that was TLJ |
| [23:24:59] | Spyro: | now just permissions on the media directory |
| [23:25:08] | Spyro: | anyone? |
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| [23:25:17] | iamlindoro: | Dagmar, The first game went on for freakin' ever! |
| [23:25:22] | kormoc: | Spyro, mythtv user +rw? |
| [23:25:28] | Dagmar: | Yeah I thought I was in the first third of the story arc getting ready for things to turn epic and then... *p00f* you're done! |
| [23:25:32] | Spyro: | kormoc: thanks |
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| [23:25:58] | ** iamlindoro buys the games through steam ** | |
| [23:26:03] | Dagmar: | They introduce new characters and then you barely even do anything with them |
| [23:26:06] | kormoc: | I've also been enjoying the new Sam and Max games (also on steam) |
| [23:26:27] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, own the first season and haven't finished it, was never as in to Sam and Max as I was into MI |
| [23:26:56] | Dagmar: | Valve needs to go ahead and do a damn IPO already |
| [23:27:01] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, MI, Grim Fandango, and the Indy Games were probably my SCUMM favorites |
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| [23:27:32] | kormoc: | iamlindoro, so when I got into Runaway, I started Friday night, played till like noon Saturday, beat it, bought the second, started the download, went to bed, woke up a few hours later, played the second one right though and then crashed till Monday. One of the best weekends ever :) |
| [23:27:54] | kormoc: | I really enjoyed the indy games, never played Grim Fandango |
| [23:28:00] | Spyro: | yay, workage |
| [23:28:05] | iamlindoro: | Oh wow, yuo need to dig up a second hand copy |
| [23:28:24] | Dagmar: | Grim Fandango was a SCUMM game? |
| [23:28:33] | Dagmar: | I didn't know they did any 3D games with that |
| [23:28:33] | iamlindoro: | kormoc, I don't think I'm prone to going too far about a game, but I think GF was one of their masterpieces |
| [23:28:47] | iamlindoro: | It was GRIME, technically |
| [23:28:52] | Dagmar: | Ah okay |
| [23:28:58] | Dagmar: | Grim Fandango was win |
| [23:28:59] | iamlindoro: | but GRIME was conceived as the "new" SCUMM |
| [23:30:33] | iamlindoro: | Now all they make is crap Star Wars games :( |
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| [23:34:55] | jamiem: | ass. |
| [23:35:02] | jamiem: | I need to finally learn procmail |
| [23:35:47] | jamiem: | or some sort of server-side-imap-auto-processing-thingy |
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| [23:42:15] | wagnerrp_: | my name has changed... i wonder if my IP changed.... |
| [23:42:50] | wagnerrp_: | nope, seems fine |
| [23:42:54] | Dagmar: | jamiem: Procmail is actually easier to figure out than you'd expect |
| [23:42:56] | wagnerrp_: | just a random disconnect |
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| [23:43:30] | wagnerrp_ is now known as wagnerrp | |
| [23:43:30] | mjj29: | hmm, what does it mean when all my repeat recordings stop and the program guide is completely blank? |
| [23:43:37] | mjj29: | it should be using the EIT |
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| [23:46:54] | knet: | hi hi |
| [23:46:54] | cesman: | mjj29: is mythfilldatabase running? |
| [23:47:30] | mjj29: | cesman: I've run it just to make sure, but for just the EIT it shouldn't need it, I thought? |
| [23:47:43] | knet is now known as CyberKnet | |
| [23:47:52] | mjj29: | (I've enabled XMLTV to see whether that helps) |
| [23:48:45] | ** CyberKnet prods Beirdo with a dull crayon ** | |
| [23:49:11] | CyberKnet: | hrmph. I hope that washes off. |
| [23:50:11] | mjj29: | also, does anyone know of a decent mpd plugin? |
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| [23:51:08] | jams: | only mythmpd which probably doesn't work anymore |
| [23:51:20] | mjj29: | well, it only barely 'worked' |
| [23:51:28] | mjj29: | you could pause and play... |
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| [23:52:32] | ** mjj29 wonders how long he should expect tv_grab_uk_rt to take the first time ** | |
| [23:54:32] | CyberKnet: | Anyone used firewire capture on Fedora 10? |
| [23:54:41] | CyberKnet: | mjj29: no idea sorry. |
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