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Saturday, February 21st, 2009, 00:01 UTC

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trumee:

hello guys

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trumee:

i changed my motherboard today (Went from athlon-xp 1.2 Ghz to 2.2 Ghz). I am not getting a lot of these while watching LiveTV "NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times."

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trumee:

This message pops up after watching tv for about 5 minutes, very annoying

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trumee:

i rebuilt my mythtv today to mythtv-0.21_p19961 on gentoo

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trumee:

anybody knows what is going wrong?

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sid3windr:

so did it occur after you changed motherboard, or after you recompiled?

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trumee:

after i chnaged the motherboard.

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trumee:

this is happening so i recompiled to the latest version, but it still happens

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sid3windr:

hmm

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sid3windr:

did you try watching tv with another program?

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trumee:

Could this be something to do with the harddisks? I am now on nvidia SATA controller, previously the disks were on a SATA PCI card

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trumee:

no i did not.

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trumee:

i tried mplayer for a few minutes and it was ok

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trumee:

but not for very long though

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mchou:

revert to an older kernel

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trumee:

i am currently on 2.6.27

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mchou:

like I said, revert

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trumee:

what kernel should i go for?

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mchou:

<2.6.24

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sid3windr:

why?

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mchou:

because kernel scheduler/premption is messed up

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sid3windr:

for 5 whole releases?

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mchou:

lol

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mchou:

27–24==5?

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sid3windr:

4.5 then.

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sid3windr:

as 29 is in rc5

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sid3windr:

so, 24 25 26 27 28

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trumee:

The backend is currently set to "Voluntary Kernel Preemption(Desktop)"

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sid3windr:

so actually, 5.5

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sid3windr:

SR4MISCALCULATIN

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trumee:

This is under Preemption Model

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trumee:

Should i revert to the old kernel in the backend alone or do i need to change all the frontends as well?

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mchou:

where-ever you playback

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mindstormmaster:

I'm getting a segfault on the backend trying to record/watch NTSC on a Pinnacle 800i

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trumee:

if i dont play on the backend then i dont need to touch it?

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mchou:

the backend kernel isn't critical afaik

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mindstormmaster:

I can watch and record QAM signals just fine

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trumee:

ok

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josh__:

iamlindoro, What did you say my "Comcast Custom 3" remote is actually manufactured by?

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trumee:

mchou,sid3windr: i get messages like these too. "RingBuf(/mnt/myth1/recordings/1000108.mpg): Waited 4.0 seconds for data to become available"

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mchou:

mindstormmaster: that's because myth doesnt handle a hybrid tuner

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mchou:

trumee: I told you what to do already

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mindstormmaster:

mchou: there's a full writeup about this specific card on the mythtv wiki

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mchou:

mindstormmaster: so? your point is?

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mindstormmaster:

mchou: someone managed to get the analog side of the card to work and wrote up their tricks

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mchou:

mindstormmaster: myth does not "handle" hybrid tuner. Only QAM/ATSC (or NTSC) exclusively

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sid3windr:

why wouldn't myth handle a hybrid tuner?

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sid3windr:

I have a hybrid tuner.

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mindstormmaster:

mchou: http://mythtv.org/wiki/Pinnacle_PCTV_HD_Card_(800i)#Analog

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trumee:

mchou, i have two choices here 2.6.20 and 2.6.24. i guess you less than .24 so it should be .20

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mchou:

mindstormmaster: lol

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mchou:

mindstormmaster: read what I wrote

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mchou:

I never said the pinnacle card "doesnt work" for analog

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trumee:

mchou, 2.6.20 is masked for me in gentoo, is 2.6.24 alright?

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mchou:

<

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goregutz:

hello, i'm running gentoo and apache2, trying to get mythweb to work. the install says to copy mythweb.conf to my apache's conf.d directory but it does not exist

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mchou:

and stop using gentoo if you cant figure it out

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goregutz:

does anyone know where i'm supposed to put that file?

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josh__:

heheh.

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trumee:

mchou, hehe. sure i can

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mindstormmaster:

mchou: so where do I go about getting help with the segfault on the NTSC recording?

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mchou:

mindstormmaster: sigh

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mchou:

it's segfaulting because to didnt tell myth to use the appropriate framer grabbing mode

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NightMonkey:

Hi, all. I'm starting to troubleshoot an issue I'm having with the scheduler not seeing some duplicate recordings (21.1-fixes). My current verbosity is set to "important,general". If I want to increase scheduler output, but keep the other levels the same, would I do "important,general,all,scheduler"?

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mchou:

it's segfaulting because YOU didnt tell myth to use the appropriate frame grabbing mode

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josh__:

goregutz, put it in /etc/apache2/modules.d/

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NightMonkey:

Er, "important,general,all,schedule", rather.

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mindstormmaster:

mchou: where might I change that?

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goregutz:

josh__, thanks

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josh__:

goregutz, i'm assuming that since you didn't know where your apache modules are located, that you were not previously running a webserver in gentoo?

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goregutz:

i was

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goregutz:

i was actually running mythweb version .20

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josh__:

ahh.

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goregutz:

i just upgraded to .21 today

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goregutz:

didn't realize it was a module...

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goregutz:

its working now, thanks josh!

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josh__:

goregutz, mythweb.conf isn't actually a module, it's a 'handler' of sorts that acts as a module

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goregutz:

i gotcha

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josh__:

goregutz, it's just easier to throw it in modules.d/ and have it automatically included inthe default httpd.conf config than to edit httpd.conf

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NightMonkey:

Even a link to docs would rock. :)

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josh__:

This is weird. I'm not sure if it's the remote or LIRC (probably the remote). All the buttons work, but lirc doesn't 'see' that the button is being held down

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Dagmar:

That would likely be your remote

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wagnerrp:

as in you get a single press, but no repeat?

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Dagmar:

Use the IR sniffer to see what it's sending

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josh__:

wagnerrp, exactly.

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selmanj:

Alright, I just got a brand new HDHomerun, and I'm using it to tune to cable via comcast. I can't seem to get the guide data to load for any of the channels though...

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josh__:

Dagmar, IR sniffer? I dont know of any tool by that particular name :)

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wagnerrp:

i seem to be missing one of my ivtv cards...

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selmanj:

I tried setting the XMLID number in the channel editor, but just running mythtv does nothing.

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Dagmar:

You didn't read the LIRC documentation or you'd know exactly what I was talking about

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selmanj:

er, just running mythfilldatabase i mean

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josh__:

Dagmar, I know of irw, and 'mode2', perhaps it's one of those? The arbritrary term 'IR sniffer' could relate to all sorts of things :)

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wagnerrp:

selmanj: what about a 'mythfilldatabase --refresh-all'

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selmanj:

wagnerrp: i tried --refresh-today, but let me try a --refresh-all

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josh__:

Dagmar, unless you're telling me it's referenced ver batim 'IR Sniffer' in the docs?

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wagnerrp:

well if refresh today didnt work, all wouldnt make any difference

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Dagmar:

Josh_Borke: I'm not answering questions like that

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Dagmar:

"Use the tool that shows you what codes are being sent"

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Dagmar:

If you can't understand that, I can't help you.

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wagnerrp:

fun with tab completion...

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selmanj:

is there some limit to how many times you can pull from schedules direct over some period of time?

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selmanj:

I just realized Im getting 401 unauthorizeds for my pulls

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wagnerrp:

not that i know of, but i wouldnt make a habit of running it manually

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josh__:

Dagmar, what I dont know is if you are talking about the tool that shows the RAW codes, or the tool that shows the 'assigned' codes.

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selmanj:

hmm, let me make sure the username+pw didn't get switched or something

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josh__:

Dagmar, but, I'll keep looking.

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Dagmar:

Look at the raw codes, use your head.

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Dagmar:

If the remote isn't indicating the button is held down you're just out of luck.

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josh__:

Dagmar, okay, the tool 'mode2' shows the raw codes

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Dagmar:

There is no solution to this that will involve NOT thinking through how this is supposed to be possible

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Dagmar:

Either the remote sends a steady stream of the same thing (which isn't distinguishable from being mashed a lot), or it sends a key-down, which-key-pressed (repeating) key-up, or you're just screwed

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selmanj:

wagnerrp: damnit, i reentered the password and now its suddenly working. embarassing.

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josh__:

Dagmar, I'm using the tool 'mode2', and it continues to spam output the entire time the key is pressed

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josh__:

let me see if I can establish a pattern

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Dagmar:

Then the only thing that can be detected is that you're pressing the key repeatedly

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selmanj:

OK, general question then. Is it safe to rename the channel number in the channel editor from the ATSC channel numbers to the ones comcast uses?

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josh__:

Dagmar, in that case, irw should continue to show keypresses while the key is held down, (just not the increasing incremental numbers)

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wagnerrp:

selmanj: you can name it anything you want

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wagnerrp:

all that matters is the xmlid

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josh__:

However, it's not doing that. It's only registering the first keypress, whether the key is held down or only tapped once.

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selmanj:

wagnerrp: so the actual ATSC channel num is hidden somewhere for mythtv to use when tuning?

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josh__:

selmanj, what you are referring to is the freqid

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wagnerrp:

the channel and program id are separate from the name

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Dagmar:

josh__: So then you get to look more closely into how LIRC is handling repetitions of the same keypress

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selmanj:

excellent, thanks

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wagnerrp:

and neither have any relation to the name given when you scanned

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Dagmar:

Some keys are automatically debounced by the config

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Dagmar:

...meaning repeat presses within a set period of time are ignored.

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wagnerrp:

for instance my local CBS is 12_1, but its actually broadcast on channel 14

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wagnerrp:

the name is just what they chose to call themselves

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wagnerrp:

nothing to do with the actual location of the channel

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dashs:

Where is a (the) good place to look for graphics card recommendations?

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wagnerrp:

get an nvidia 8-series

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dashs:

8600 or 8400?

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wagnerrp:

depends, do you ever intend to use VC1? more specifically, do you ever intend to play content from blu-ray?

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dashs:

yes, the latter

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wagnerrp:

grab an 8400, a new G98 one

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dashs:

thanks

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wagnerrp:

you can tell the difference between the G98 and G86 revisions by the clock rate

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wagnerrp:

G86s are ~450MHz, G98s are ~567MHz

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wagnerrp:

nvidia chips are the preferred card for linux

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wagnerrp:

the 8-series and better support accelerated video decoding

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wagnerrp:

and the G98 chips support it for VC1 as well

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wagnerrp:

its not supported in the current release version of myth, but it should be in future versions

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Dagmar:

I actually put mention of that in the nvidia card matrix page

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dashs:

Like PNY VCG84512SPEB?

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Dagmar:

I still have to find time to research and populate the 9xxx part of that

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wagnerrp:

dashs: got a link?

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Dagmar:

dashs: yeah, their product numbers are a little hateful, but it *says* it's got a core clock at 567Mhz

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Dagmar:

That's the exact item I was looking at two days ago trying to sort this out

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dashs:

wagnerrp: off newegg.

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wagnerrp:

Dagmar: apparently the low end cards (that actually support VC1) are a bit underpowered for advanced deinterlacing

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wagnerrp:

i know mine gets jerky when i enable it

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wagnerrp:

dashs: got a link?

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dashs:

wagnerrp: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133245

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wagnerrp:

yeah, that should work

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wagnerrp:

although you might want to pick up a fanless one instead

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wagnerrp:

and thats PCI, not PCIe

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dashs:

wagnerrp: oop

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cityLights3:

ok, seems I can't watch tv in the current SVN alpha 20031 yet it worked at 0.20

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wagnerrp:

crap... i locked my backend in the middle of recording...

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cityLights3:

now, I want to understand – must I move to a nvidia gfx card from my ATI?

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qupada:

has anyone seen this error before? using latest SVN trunk code, fresh install into a clean database: http://rafb.net/p/pyz5Dl77.html

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cityLights3:

to get xvmc

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cityLights3:

I am using an rv250 with the open source driver, yet it seems nvidia closed source modules offer more

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wagnerrp:

cityLights3: what processor are you using?

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cityLights3:

prescott HT 2.8Ghz

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wagnerrp:

xvmc shouldnt be necessary

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wagnerrp:

that chip should be able to do ATSC without help

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cityLights3:

when I wtch tv in 0.22 I see the backend is using 25% of the cpu while frontend is 50%

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wagnerrp:

the backend shouldnt be doing much of anything

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cityLights3:

wagnerrp: any reason why I set the config accoring to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Troubleshooting:Prebuffering_pause yet I can't see tv at 0.22 while it worked on 0.20?

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wagnerrp:

not much point of watching terminator with a big 25min chunk taken out of it

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cityLights3:

I am downgrading now to test

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wagnerrp:

this is livetv?

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cityLights3:

right

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wagnerrp:

dont know why something would no longer work in 0.22

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cityLights3:

what I do see is: TVRec(1) Error: Failed to set channel to S21. Reverting to kState_None

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cityLights3:

what does this mean?

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wagnerrp:

maybe youre building with some debugging, rather than with optimizations

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wagnerrp:

so trunk is taking more power

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wagnerrp:

i need to stop doing intensive file IO during primetime

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wagnerrp:

it tends to bugger up iscsi

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cityLights3:

got iscsi at home?

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wagnerrp:

actually, they need to port zfs-iscsi over to freebsd

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wagnerrp:

open-iscsi seems to be somewhat hackish

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josh__:

Is there a hidden keybinding for strictly chan_up and chan_down in liveTV? this way I don't have to bind my channel buttons to map to 'arrow' controls

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wagnerrp:

cityLights3: yes, doing iscsi on consumer hardware, which is probably why its giving me problems such as this

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wagnerrp:

josh__: there is channelup and channeldown, besides up and down

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wagnerrp:

but by default, theyre bound to the same keyboard keys

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josh__:

ahh, so I can bind those to some specialcharacters instead, thanks.

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wagnerrp:

you have to go into mythweb (or use mythkeys) to change the keybindings

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wagnerrp:

and then adjust your lircrc to match

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josh__:

wagnerrp, understood, thanks.

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josh__:

Do you know how to do key combinations in lircrc?

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josh__:

Alt+L for instance

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wagnerrp:

nope

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josh__:

special characters it is, then :)

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wagnerrp:

i imagine its possible, i just dont know how to do it

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dashs:

wagnerrp: reviews diss, but http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162026

[02:02:50]

wagnerrp:

the complaints are about the rebate, or about the noise, or about how its a slow card that doesnt play games

[02:02:55]

wagnerrp:

has nothing to do with video playback

[02:03:18]

qupada:

8600gt's are a good choice – leadtek (i think) make one with a passive cooler and dual dvi

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wagnerrp:

but galaxy is not a brand i know of

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wagnerrp:

and a fanless cooler would be better

[02:03:40]

wagnerrp:

qupada: the 8600s cannot do VC1

[02:04:13]

wagnerrp:

basically, do you want VC1 or do you want some more advanced deinterlacers

[02:04:37]

qupada:

but an 8400gs can? is there something i'm missing?

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iamlindoro:

Yes, an 9400 GS (so long as it's a model with a g98) can

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iamlindoro:

er 8400

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wagnerrp:

the new revision of the 8400, and the 9200 and 9300 are the only cards that can do VC1

[02:05:48]

dashs:

for that price — worht a try.

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wagnerrp:

iamlindoro: do you know if the whole 256MB/512MB issue was worked out?

[02:06:28]

iamlindoro:

wagnerrp, Think it's still pretty much reliant on having 512 MB

[02:06:58]

Dagmar:

qupada: What you're "missing" is that the card's ability to provide pew-pew graphics has nothing to do with it's ability to decode video streams

[02:07:25]

Dagmar:

What *does* matter is that it has the G98 core on it, which NOT ALL (but the newer only) 8400's do

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wagnerrp:

dashs: i would try to find one of these in stock somewhere... http://www.newwgg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121235

[02:08:02]

dashs:

so 512mb required?

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wagnerrp:

qupada: there is absolutely no use for dual-dvi on a mythtv box

[02:09:05]

qupada:

ah good, so it is just nvidia confusing the matter. that's wonderful

[02:09:25]

wagnerrp:

or, if you want a low profile card... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127342

[02:09:28]

Dagmar:

No, it's functional illiteracy confusing the matter.

[02:09:43]

Dagmar:

Video decoding has damn near nothing to do with drawing polygons

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Dagmar:

...and if you're assuming larger model numbers to mean "MOAR POWER" you're failing at intelligent hardware selection

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wagnerrp:

Dagmar: well apparently the deinterlacers run on the shader hardware

[02:10:43]

Dagmar:

wagnerrp: So how do we quantify shader power then... :/

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wagnerrp:

at least thats the only reason i can come up with for why the low end cards dont support the more complex deinterlace routines

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Dagmar:

It's not like deinterlacing requires tons of power

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dashs:

wagnerrp: What about 9600gt?

[02:21:14]

wagnerrp:

no VC1 support

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Gumby:

anyone here know if its possible use imap idle with wm6.1 email client?

[02:24:25]

wagnerrp:

i have no idea what either of those are

[02:24:39]

Gumby:

haha.. oops wrong window

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Gumby:

hehe

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poody1:

woot

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dashs:

wagnerrp: Don't have PCIe 2.0 the ASUS is 2.0 compat?

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wagnerrp:

1.0 and 2.0 gear is usually compatible

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wagnerrp:

im running that asus card on a 1.0 board

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dashs:

whew

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dashs:

Too many variables!!

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joat:

anyone else run into LIRC working when the front-end is running but not when the front-end isn't (i.e., I can't change channels from mythweb without having the front-end running also)

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joat:

?

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iamlindoro:

erm... I think you must misunderstand something

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iamlindoro:

myth won't respond to lirc keypresses if it's not running

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joat:

it's only the front-end

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joat:

the back-end is always running

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iamlindoro:

yes... and the backend has nothing to do with LIRC

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Gumby:

what does LIRC have to do with the backend and also mythweb?

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joat:

oh

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Gumby:

LIRC is simply for remote control/frontend interaction

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joat:

so mythweb is an interface to the front-end?

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iamlindoro:

no, mythweb has nothing to do with the frontend

[03:02:35]

iamlindoro:

mythweb and LIRc do not, and never will have any interaction

[03:02:45]

joat:

you're missing my question

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Gumby:

your question makes no sense

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joat:

channels change properly when I have the front-end running...

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joat:

even from mythweb

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Gumby:

how are you changing the channels with mythweb

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joat:

if I do not have the front end running, the ir blinks but the channels do not change

[03:03:45]

joat:

telling it to record

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joat:

a specific program

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Gumby:

joat, because the frontend works with LIRC, not the backend

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Gumby:

LIRC-> FRONTEND < – > BACKEND

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joat:

and mythweb isn't a front-end control?

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Gumby:

no

[03:04:56]

Gumby:

mythweb is mythweb

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Gumby:

it interacts with the backend

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joat:

given that the backend is what should control the cable box, isn't this just bad design?

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Gumby:

it is a frontend but is not mythfrontend nor does it interface with mythfrontend

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joat:

not remote to front-end IR... backend to cable-box IR

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Gumby:

one question... what good is changing the channel manually with the remote control when you dont have the frontend running?

[03:06:43]

sphery:

jams: I realize I'm about 7 hours late, but SCHEMA versions for mythtv and plugins should all be global (NULL hostname) as there's only one DB. Mine is like that, too.

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jams:

sphery- thanks

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Gumby:

joat, you use mythtv to control the cable box even when not using mythfrontend to watch tv?

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jams:

thats what i thought, the db i was looking at at hostnames

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joat:

no... i want to schedule recordings... mythweb can control the tuner directly if i'm not using the cable box

[03:07:48]

joat:

however, if i add the cable box, myth must listen on channel 4 and control the cable box

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Gumby:

joat, so what you are trying to say, is that mythtv isnt properly sending out IR signals via an IR blaster when mythfrontend is not running?

[03:08:38]

joat:

yep

[03:09:07]

joat:

the blaster blinks in either case, but only works properly if the front-end is running

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Gumby:

no clue on that. not even sure it has anything to do with LIRC or not. Never used an ir blaster with a cable box

[03:09:31]

Gumby:

by dont you just leave the frontend running?

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Gumby:

by/why

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joat:

i use the box for other things (coding, email, etc.)

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Gumby:

so but it on a different desktop or login

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Gumby:

but/put

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joat:

can't afford another box

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joat:

yeah, i know

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Gumby:

you can have more than one desktop and login on one machine

[03:10:58]

Gumby:

no need for another box

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joat:

running the front-end takes over the desktop... I can get back to the desktop by hitting alt-tab but the front end-ties up a number of processing cycles and keeps me from using the audio for other things

[03:12:25]

joat:

in other words, the recordings are no longer occurring in the background

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Gumby:

that makes no sense. the recording are always occouring the background unless you are watching live tv or timeshifting

[03:14:44]

Gumby:

I am sure others have experienced your issues though. I've never had the need to set it up

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joat:

I know. It's gotta be something in how irsend is called. Was just wondering if anyone else had run into this.

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joat:

I'll have to play with the scripts I guess

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wombo:

Are there any Aussies in here?

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wombo:

how have you all gone with the new channels they are adding?

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pat_:

nothing has changed yet

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pat_:

as far as I can tell

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pat_:

one hd is launched on 29th of march

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wombo:

I just did a scan then, and its come up with ONE, ONE HD, SBS 3, SBS 4

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wombo:

But using Shepherd I cant assign guide data to them

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pat_:

the only other change is "SBS World News Digital is changing its logical channel number (LCN) from 33 to 32 and its name from "SBS World News Digital" to just "SBS 2"."

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pat_:

everything else is still the same for me in brisbane

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wombo:

hmm ok, I might just wait for a while for it to settle down then

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wombo:

I going to rebuild soon from mythbuntu 8.04 when the new MythTV comes out

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pat_:

soon? I didn't know that anytimeline had been put on a next release of mythtv

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wombo:

Yeah I dont think there is either but im happy to wait

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wombo:

I think there was a few things they where waiting for to release it

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iamlindoro:

9.04 will be out before Myth .22. :)

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wombo:

yeah

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wombo:

I will skip that and jump to either 9.04.1 or 9.10

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wombo:

that is if there is a 9.04.1, I just made that up

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pat_:

I use icetv for my guide data

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pat_:

and all they have advised on is the sbs change and the one-hd upgrade

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wombo:

how much is icetv? is it better than shepherd?

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pat_:

I've not used shepherd

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pat_:

the prices are on the website

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pat_:

it seems to work ok for me, however lately there have been some unlabelled things on channel 9

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pat_:

probably due to the court case

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wombo:

$100 for a year, was it easy to setup?

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pat_:

yeah, I'd imagine shepherd would be equally as easy

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pat_:

it isn't rocket science

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psicobra:

any one about?

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at0m|c:

psicobra ?

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psicobra:

sweet

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psicobra:

i have installed my tv card and the picture works perfectly but i have no sound

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psicobra:

any ideas at0m|c

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at0m|c:

psicobra: what if you play the file using your regular player?

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psicobra:

the file? if i play a video file or mp3 ect all works great

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at0m|c:

psicobra: whatever you watch is recorded to disc and played back

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at0m|c:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detailed_c . . . ontend#Audio

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at0m|c:

gotta go work a bit..

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J-e-f-f-A:

iamlindoro__: you still awake? ;-)

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justinh:

psicobra: ok let's get down to brass tacks. what have you set mythtv to use as its audio output device? and what sound system (e.g. alsa, pulseaudio etc) does your distro use? Infact what distro IS it?

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psicobra:

yes i have and it is using alsa

[06:43:02]

justinh:

I said "what have you set mythtv to use"

[06:43:06]

psicobra:

it's using optical out games work videos work cd's/mp3's all work

[06:43:25]

psicobra:

using my optical out

[06:43:46]

J-e-f-f-A:

Humm... is video metadata searching 'broken' in trunk currently, or am I missing something...

[06:44:14]

justinh:

psicobra: what DEVICE have you set mythtv to use for audio output?

[06:45:08]

psicobra:

i have triesd a few but it is now set to ALSA:SPDIF

[06:45:38]

justinh:

psicobra: but is that actually what the spdif output is called? is it listed by aplay -l ?

[06:45:56]

justinh:

oops. aplay -L

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psicobra:

how do i tell

[06:46:20]

justinh:

put the output of aplay -L into a pastebin

[06:46:25]

justinh:

www.pastebin.ca

[06:46:56]

justinh:

also, last night I was going on about looking in the log output of mythfrontend to get a clue as to why the audio wasn't working. that would _still_ be a very good idea

[06:47:03]

psicobra:

http://pastebin.com/m355a99fc

[06:47:29]

psicobra:

the only error mentioned in log was about directory permissions

[06:47:32]

justinh:

psicobra: so you want alsa:IEC958

[06:47:38]

justinh:

psicobra: that was the _backend_ log

[06:48:26]

psicobra:

i dont have an ALSA:IEC958

[06:48:53]

psicobra:

i have that in my passthrough output device

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justinh:

no, possible you don't have that in the dropdown but you can put your own entry in there

[06:49:00]

iamlindoro:

use the buttons with the letters on them, the ones on the big flat thing in front of your chair

[06:49:43]

justinh:

iamlindoro: hey, nice work on the theming docs so far. I was thinking about going digging in the code to find all the possible attributes for each thing

[06:49:46]

J-e-f-f-A:

so... PEBKAC? ;-)

[06:49:51]

psicobra:

no need for sarasm iamlindoro

[06:50:02]

iamlindoro:

There's always a need for sarcasm IMO

[06:50:15]

justinh:

oh no there's every need for sarcasm. it helps keep the helpers sane

[06:50:15]

iamlindoro:

justinh, Thanks-- I need to do same, was too burnt out after all that today

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psicobra:

look J-e-f-f-A i come here for help no need to be an idiot

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iamlindoro:

That ought to endear you to all of us who actually know how this all works

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psicobra:

justinh, still doesnt work

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iamlindoro:

justinh, Anyway, feel free to shape it up, I figured a rough pass at it was better than nothing

[06:51:53]

iamlindoro:

justinh, And I'll probably keep pounding on it until I get bored

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J-e-f-f-A:

iamlindoro: Yeah, your wiki page is looking quite nice. ;-)

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justinh:

psicobra: ok, now you need to look in the output of mythfrontend. run mythfrontend from a terminal & play some stuff that should have sound. then look at the output in the terminal

[06:52:30]

justinh:

psicobra: you should _really_ have looked in the log output of mythfrontend FIRST

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justinh:

when one app is the only one that doesn't do what others do, when technically they should all do the same thing – that's generally because that app isn't configured right, and logs are GREAT places to look for clues

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psicobra:

http://pastebin.com/m3b9c3c8b

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justinh:

iamlindoro: with the success I'm having with my code hacks, I think I need to add audio feedback ASAP. no buttons onscreen makes mythtv hard to operate!

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justinh:

psicobra: okay so alsa:IEC958 isn't what your digital audio output is called but I could've sworn that's what your aplay -L listed it as

[06:55:19]

psicobra:

ok

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justinh:

the default setting _should_ have just worked though

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justinh:

set myth to use that again and look in the frontend log again

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J-e-f-f-A:

is it case sensitive? it's "iec958" in the aplay -L output he pastebinn'd before...

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justinh:

everything in loonix is case sensitive

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justinh:

apart from stuff that isn't

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justinh:

which ain't much

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J-e-f-f-A:

That's what I thought...

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psicobra:

so is it?

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justinh:

alsa:iec958

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justinh:

try that

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J-e-f-f-A:

psicobra: yes -

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J-e-f-f-A:

^^

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psicobra:

nope still didn't work

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justinh:

but the mythfrontend log says what?

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J-e-f-f-A:

psicobra: pastebin the mythfrontend log again...

[06:59:22]

psicobra:

http://pastebin.com/m6fc2fc01

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justinh:

see here we have some unknowns. is the device name valid... and is the actual output something your audio system can deal with...

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J-e-f-f-A:

ps: metadata searching works better with the proper perl stuff installed... ;-) trunk is purty... ;-)

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justinh:

fscking alsa

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justinh:

argghhh

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psicobra:

any ideas?

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J-e-f-f-A:

psicobra: wait — did you change it to alsa:iec958 — or alsa:default ??? Unless I'm reading that log wrong, it looks like it's set to "default"

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J-e-f-f-A:

psicobra: Oh, wait, I do see it further down...

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psicobra:

i tried it on both now it is set to iec958

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justinh:

nah Opening audio device 'iec958'. ch 6(2) sr 48000

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kormoc_:

Does anyone know if there was ever a port of bsd's systat app to linux?

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justinh:

is the user you run mythfrontend as part of the 'audio' group ?

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J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc_: never heard of it... ;-)

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psicobra:

i can use sound through every other app

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justinh:

psicobra: that doesn't answer the question

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psicobra:

ok how do i tell

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justinh:

look in /etc/group is one way

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J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc_: Looks like there's a linux version on http://pagesperso-orange.fr/sebastien.godard/download.html

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justinh:

psicobra: ok so these other apps which output sound just fine. did you change their audio settings or did they just work ?

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kormoc_:

J-e-f-f-A, no, that's sysstat not systat

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justinh:

and you STILL haven't said which distro you use

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J-e-f-f-A:

kormoc_: woops... a few too many S's... sorry... ;-)

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justinh:

I don't ask questions for the good of my health

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psicobra:

i added the asound file thingy and they all worked fine except mp3's through myth i had to change device

[07:06:16]

justinh:

oh god. from the wiki?

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psicobra:

cant remeber was a while ago

[07:07:30]

psicobra:

take a look at that see if you think that is the problem

[07:07:31]

psicobra:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/PCI_TV_audio

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justinh:

see, some sound cards will just output everything through analogue & digital by default & all you need do is unmute the iec958 channel in the linux mixer for it to work

[07:08:16]

justinh:

others don't route the 'pcm' main audio output to the digital output by default

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justinh:

I suspect your card is one of the latter

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psicobra:

so do i

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psicobra:

i have got to go to work thanks for all your help see you in 9 hours

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justinh:

you can still tell apps to use the ouptut directly but it's generally much easier to change the routing. that's what the 'volume' control of the IEC958 channel is for

[07:09:22]

justinh:

it ain't a volume control.. it has 3 or 4 steps which control what is output to the digital port

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psicobra:

sorry i ont got time

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psicobra:

see ya

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justinh:

psicobra: another thing is, I remember you said you were using a digital tuner card – that page you posted doesn't apply. At all

[07:10:38]

justinh:

anyway have fun at work

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wagnerrp:

whoops

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wagnerrp:

i have the serial port on my router plugged into the serial port on my firewall

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wagnerrp:

and apparently they are both set up with serial terminals on that port

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wagnerrp:

so for the last week, they have repeatedly been trying to log into eachother with failed login messages

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justinh:

heheh

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wagnerrp:

i was just looking at /var/log/messages, and found it flodded with 'failed login on ttyd0'...

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justinh:

why the hell is 'make' building mpegrecorder.cpp all over again? should be in my ccache

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justinh:

I've only been dicking about with ui stuff

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J-e-f-f-A:

humm... for Trunk, what is the "Video Unique ID" for manual entry? I tried searching themoviedb.org for the movie, then entering the number in the URL, but that doesnt' seem to work... (that worked for imdb.com, but not tmdb...)

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justinh:

gah. so I'm doing my CollapseArea bit now, recursing to all the child items & it doesn't seem to be doing the trick... unless that is, the text area setting part isnt working

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asdas:

where do I find a current channels.conf for Germany?

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kavorka:

i have a bizarre problem when i use the internal player for a particular set of divx avi files my frontend is dropping frames, but is fine for all other avis and livetv

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kavorka:

also playing from another frontend (with lower specs) these same divx's play fine

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kavorka:

the log says "video is 3.XXX frames behind audio (too slow), dropping frame to catch up

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kavorka:

these *used* to play fine

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** c0p3rn1c is looking for a dvb-s signal strength tuning program **

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sid3windr:

is it possible to make livetv start on a different source? or does it always pick the first one in the list that's available

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c0p3rn1c:

how do you check your satellite signal strength in linux ?

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c0p3rn1c:

dvbsnoop -s signal -dvr /dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0 gave the following error: Error(95): frontend ioctl: Operation not supported

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c0p3rn1c:

don't make me go to windows snif snif

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trumee:

guys, i have updated my motherboard and cpu. mythtv is showing a lot of "NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times"

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trumee:

mchou, susggested i change to kernel less than 2.6.24 and now i am aon 2.6.20, still the problem is there

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trumee:

mplayer is working fine, byt myth LivetV craps out after few minutes

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trumee:

If i record anything, it plays fine

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trumee:

i am using mythtv-0.21_p19961 on gentoo

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clever:

did you emerge all mythtv related packages after the upgrade?

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trumee:

clever, i only emerged the mythtv package after the upgrade. nothing else

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trumee:

clever, mythweb is working well, and mythvideo is also ok

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trumee:

should i format the harddisk and basic gentoo installation again

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trumee:

it will be hell of a work though :(

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trumee:

what i dont understand is that mplayer with dvb is working fantastic but mythtv craps out

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clever:

you shouldnt have to, ever, with any distro

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clever:

i think a 'emerge -a world' might do something usefull(and eat up a few hours)

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trumee:

clever, i will give that a go

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c0p3rn1c:

mythtv-setup gives me the following error while scanning for channels : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m6cb765eb

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c0p3rn1c:

ls /dev/dvb/adapter0/ returns 'demux0 dvr0 frontend0 net0' so my sat skystar2 sat card should be installed correctly right?

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c0p3rn1c:

00:0a.0 0280: 13d0:2103 (rev 02)

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c0p3rn1c:

oops

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c0p3rn1c:

Since version 2.6.28-git5 this card is supported out-of the box by the kernel.

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c0p3rn1c:

oops wrong channel again

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leif|:

but now you got it? :)

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gbee:

How does "I used to have a working mythtv install, then the hard drive crashed and now it no longer works" qualify as a bug?

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wombo:

lol

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wombo:

I guess the developers should have built some logic that didnt allow the hard drive to fail

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sid3windr:

yes. moar smart-monitoring popups.

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clever:

i just run smartd and check the logs once a week

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clever:

though i could probly configure it to run 'beep' very loudly every 5mins:P

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** sid3windr has diskless frontends – good start **

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ccfreak2k:

Then when you hear it flatline and a grinding sound, you'll know what happened.

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sid3windr:

diskless backends would be painful with recordings though :]

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sid3windr:

so, what's up with --enable-x264 on myth's configure... supposed to not be there, I suppose?

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sid3windr:

(i can't build if it's there, i found a post on mythtv-users from iamlindoro saying it shouldn't be there – .deb maintainer says it compiles fine and will not remove it from debian/rules)

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clever:

most of my frontends are only using the disk for swap

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sid3windr:

swap? :/

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sid3windr:

you should start saving to get 'm 512M each man.. :p

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clever:

laptops mainly:P

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sid3windr:

wanna buy some laptop ddr? :P

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iamlindoro:

sid3windr, I am just running out, but that's correct, it should not be there, it is purely an artifact from importing ffmpeg's configure, myth does *nothing* with it, and it will do nothing but make libavcodec/format fail to compile if the user has the wrong libx264 installed

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clever:

size: 256MiB

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clever:

capacity: 512MiB

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iamlindoro:

sid3windr, you should tell the packager to come in and ask the devs... anyway, I'm out

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clever:

sid3windr: that laptop cant handle anything more then 512:(

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sid3windr:

iamlindoro: will do – thanks :)

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sid3windr:

strange thing is it compiles on his system he says (and yeah, well, I'm using his packages)

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sid3windr:

I wanted to recompile to have unstripped binaries but that didn't want to work :]

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sid3windr:

dunno if christian marillat is on irc :)

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iamlindoro:

he likely has a libx264 version that matches the libavcodec there

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iamlindoro:

but he's still wrong

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iamlindoro:

anyway, off for real

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sid3windr:

yeah well, I use his repository for all files and have all build-deps satisfied so.. he's wrong in any case

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sid3windr:

cya :)

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riddlebox:

have you guys gotten the Western Digital WD TV HD media player to work with mythtv as a frontend of some sort?

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stuarta:

afternoon

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stuarta:

i did a bad thing

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stuarta:

i went to pcworld

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justinh:

and bought an MCE machine? :P

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justinh:

I did a bad thing today too. cut down part of a tree

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stuarta:

no, but i did buy a nova-td usb stick

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justinh:

hey market forces & all that schmazz

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stuarta:

sadly a reasonable price there

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justinh:

sometimes they just _have_ stuff we want. sometimes it's cheaper than anywhere else

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stuarta:

i actually went for the pci version

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stuarta:

but it had been opened and stuck back on the shelf

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justinh:

and the thing is, you're better off buying from those people despite how evil they are

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stuarta:

so i went for the usb version :-/

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justinh:

hmmm

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gbee:

they've got a lot better on prices in the last 18 months

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stuarta:

without being entirely sure if it works under linux

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justinh:

well at least you can get an easy refund if it's rubbish

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justinh:

try getting a refund from your 'friendly' local shed

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stuarta:

my reasoning was that the pci version is basically a usb bridge to the tuners

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stuarta:

so the usb one probably will work

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justinh:

woo no, £15 restocking fee

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justinh:

it does AFAIK

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gbee:

well they've had to get better, it was either that or go under because their customer base suddenly discovered everything was 1/3 of the price online

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stuarta:

i also figured that if i have to move to a laptop

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justinh:

I had to buy a replacement PSU for my inlaws' PC a while ago on NYE & PC World was the only place open. Even though it wasn't my own money it hurt to spend that much on a crap PSU

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stuarta:

then the usb version is better

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justinh:

ideal, even :)

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stuarta:

\o/ it is supported under linux

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justinh:

thought it was, remember the discussions about the PCI version of early TD models :)

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stuarta:

yah

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stuarta:

http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppau . . . OVA-TD-Stick

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justinh:

I'd stump up for a couple of the pci ones if there was any way I could guarantee what I was getting

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justinh:

riight then. let's see where I'm at with this lame hacking of mine

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justinh:

bah. still not getting the 'auto' button widths, or indeed any child widths

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justinh:

gonna have to concede I just don't know enough to do this soon

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stuarta:

gbee: you know of any windoze drivers for the dvb-s cards we have?

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joat:

Gumby: the IR thing is weird... with the front-end running (i now have it in a minimized window), it works fine... without the front-end, lirc complains about checksum errors... i'll keep looking

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dougl:

morning ladies and gents

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gbee:

stuarta: sorry no, should be something on the Hauppauge website I'd expect

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stuarta:

i'll dig around some more, my first few choices didn't work

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twitchnln:

morning everyone

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twitchnln:

anyone have any experience with dch3200 stb and firewire?

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gbee:

stuarta: maybe – http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/de/nova-pci218c.exe

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gbee:

or http://www.wintvcd.co.uk/drivers/88x_2_122_26109_WHQL.zip

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gbee:

yeah, first looks likely

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gbee:

it's under Nova-S legacy on their website, it's a rebadged Technotrend device

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gbee:

Subsystem: Technotrend Systemtechnik GmbH Technotrend-Budget/Hauppauge WinTV-NOVA-S DVB card

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StickMan:

anyone using mythvodka?

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stuarta:

gbee: didn't want to work last time it tried it "you don't have that card installed" or similar. hmpf

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c0p3rn1c:

what would be the first thing to look at if your backend seems configured fine but your frontend just wont start livetv

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: logs

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c0p3rn1c:

I'm trying to watch sat tv, my sat card works fine in kaffeine

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c0p3rn1c:

/var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: mythbackend.log

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c0p3rn1c:

ok

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c0p3rn1c:

hmmz problem with the ringbuffer

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c0p3rn1c:

http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m3b1d798f

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: have you created your livetv recording directories?

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c0p3rn1c:

twitchnln: yes it's there

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c0p3rn1c:

/home/gebruiker/recordings

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twitchnln:

cop3rn1c: are the permissions set correctly?

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mirak:

hi

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c0p3rn1c:

twitchnln: yes

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: not sure...

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c0p3rn1c:

my user has access

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c0p3rn1c:

read, write,execute

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ProcrastinatoR:

i'm installing mythTV on ubuntu and the frontend doens't seem to connect to the mysql server i'm sure it is running though could my previous instaltion of mysql have broken the password settings for mysql/mythtv ?

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twitchnln:

c0r3rn1c: but does the user that the backend is running as have access?

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c0p3rn1c:

you mean the mythtv user?

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mirak:

I was doing some tests about deinterlacing and such, and in fact it appears that for interlaced videos in pal 720x576i, I get the best result on my full HDTV by putting my video card in 720x576i, and using the square ratio. The image is as good as what I get with a set top box pluggued to the TV, the TV is doing the deinterlacing herself. However the issue I have is that it seems the vblank synchronisation seems to go out of think, and

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mirak:

then I lose the good result for a few seconds then it goes back and so on. Do you have this kind of issue with mythtv ?

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: easy fix change the directory group to mythtv

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c0p3rn1c:

ok I'll try

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c0p3rn1c:

twitchnln: ok that did it but my channels don't work

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c0p3rn1c:

there are only 9 channels while kaffeine finds 415 channels

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c0p3rn1c:

or more

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mirak:

everyone finds acceptable the deinterlacing they get ?

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c0p3rn1c:

twitchnln: theire probebly locked

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: well you're half-way to having it working

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twitchnln:

anyone using firewire to control motorola dch3200?

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c0p3rn1c:

twitchnln: can I also import channels from kaffeine or dvbscan ?

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: not sure, i've never tried

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c0p3rn1c:

ic

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: should be possible though, if you can get the output format to match the import channels.conf in backend setup

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c0p3rn1c:

thats why there are those channel tuning scripts for mythtv

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dougl:

when I play back mp3s in my mythtv on ubuntu 8.04 the audible output thru my spdif is too fast (like chipmunks) is this a mythtv issue or alsa issue?

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justinh:

alsa

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dougl:

justinh, lol – I'm still at it and you're still helping me = thanks...

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justinh:

you need to get alsa to resample 44khz output to 48khz

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dougl:

I got both audio going to spdif from videos and mp3 so I guess I made some progress

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justinh:

it's also possible you're sampling audio at 32khz if you have a framegrabber or mpeg2 encoding tuner card

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dougl:

justinh, and the resample is done all thru alsa – correct?

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justinh:

yup

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dougl:

and that is done in the ~.asoundrc ?

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justinh:

yup

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dougl:

ok – so I know what I thot I knew yesterday but still have to figer out what to put in there...

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justinh:

though alsa's resampling isn't the best in the world – you might be better off setting the sampling freq to 48khz in your recording profiles if you don't have a digital video source

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dougl:

everytime I change that file from the simple 4 lines to a complicated slew of data I get no sound at all.

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dougl:

my satelite dvb card is my digital video source – right?

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justinh:

yup

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justinh:

that ought to be 48khz usually though

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justinh:

in the UK it is for sure

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dougl:

you might be better off setting the sampling freq to 48khz in your recording profiles – but this is not an option because I have a digital video source or is already the case?

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justinh:

the sampling freq. of your audio will be whatever is broadcast, which in Europe is generally 48khz

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dougl:

justinh, can you derive what needs to be in my ~/.asoundrc based on my aplay -l output at http://pastebin.com/fe92b78e?

[17:20:19]

justinh:

nope

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justinh:

I suck at alsa, like most mortals

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[Peter]:

s/mortals/sane people/

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dougl:

hmm – fair enuff... I should see if someone wants to spoon feed me in #alsa – I tried the mythtv wiki information and had a plethora of different results but never succeeded

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c0p3rn1c:

where can I find channels.conf?

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justinh:

wherever you wrote it to

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c0p3rn1c:

arent the mythtv channels stored in the mysql database?

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justinh:

yes

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c0p3rn1c:

so I'll have to import them into the database

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c0p3rn1c:

aha

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c0p3rn1c:

k

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justinh:

mythtv-setup has an 'import channels.conf' option within the scanner pages

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justinh:

though you REALLY SHOULD use mythtv-setup's own scanner if you can

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justinh:

and if it's not working, report it

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ProcrastinatoR:

ok i setup my mysql database with the proper user etc, i can connect under the mythtv user, but not mythtv itself, wath gives?

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ProcrastinatoR:

mythtv says cannot connect to database, but i can with tha same settings ...

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justinh:

what user are you running mythfrontend as?

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justinh:

and mythbackend as?

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c0p3rn1c:

justinh: well mythtv only finds 9 channels while there are 415 on astra 19.2

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[Peter]:

mpeg/tspacket.h:161: warning: array subscript is above array bounds

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[Peter]:

ehh

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[Peter]:

sounds like a recipe for great success :) unless someone is doing tricky stuff with the allocation size

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justinh:

c0p3rn1c: funny but astra scanning seems to work for most people who use it

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ProcrastinatoR:

justinh, frontend as me, backend as root

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c0p3rn1c:

ProcrastinatoR: are you running ubuntu ?

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ProcrastinatoR:

c0p3rn1c, yes

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c0p3rn1c:

ProcrastinatoR: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database

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c0p3rn1c:

wait

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c0p3rn1c:

I'll check the exact command

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justinh:

ProcrastinatoR: well, some settings (like how to find & login to the database) are stored in ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt or ~/.mythtv/config.xml – verify all the details in every file you find are correct

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c0p3rn1c:

ProcrastinatoR: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/Troubleshooting)

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justinh:

and fwiw I wouldn't run that reconfigure command

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ProcrastinatoR:

c0p3rn1c, ran that will check the websit, thx

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justinh:

see, all this jumping through hoops on behalf of users is all very well & good IF they pay attention during the install process and READ everything that pops up _properly_

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c0p3rn1c:

ProcrastinatoR: np

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ProcrastinatoR:

justinh, did that

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justinh:

it's nigh on impossible to screw up database initialisation IF you follow everything properly

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ProcrastinatoR:

i set evrything right the first time...

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ProcrastinatoR:

i seem to have foud a way, yay me

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ProcrastinatoR:

:P

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c0p3rn1c:

justinh: I can't find the import from file button in the mythtv-setup

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justinh:

in the channel scanner pages

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justinh:

the big button labelled IMPORT CHANNELS.CONF

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twitchnln:

c0p3rn1c: it's under scan for channels under input

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c0p3rn1c:

found it thx

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justinh:

too tired for this crap today

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c0p3rn1c:

justinh: btw I used 12551500 : 22000000

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c0p3rn1c:

freq/symbol rate for astra 19.2

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c0p3rn1c:

I got that freq from the dvb-apps dvb-s config file

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c0p3rn1c:

/usr/share/dvb-apps/util/scan/dvb-s/Astra-19.2E

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jarle:

so what is the most usual problem when you end up with a lot of "Could not connect to server "" @ port -1" in your backend logs? appart from the usual that one has changed to hostname I mean?

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** stuarta hits his broadband **

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** gbee hits the drink **

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** stuarta beers gbee **

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** sid3windr drinks the broadband **

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sid3windr:

mm beerband

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** gbee beers stuarta and justinh **

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stuarta:

thanks!

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** stuarta drinks **

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twitchnln:

so can someone hook a brother up with a firewire channel change script for motorola dch3200?

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ProcrastinatoR:

what does it mean when mytv reports TV error: failed to get recording show list ?

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tanderson:

Hello, I'm packaging mythtv up for a source-based distribution. Is there a recommendation on how to filter C{XX}FLAGS?

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jarle:

ProcrastinatoR: I'm guessing that the frontend is unable to connect to the backend?

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c0p3rn1c:

does /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt contain your backend pin ?

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c0p3rn1c:

n/m

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c0p3rn1c:

=)

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SlicerDicer:

does anybody know what the last working nvidia driver with xvmc was?

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wagnerrp:

SlicerDicer: i think its more that the last working card was the 7-series

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wagnerrp:

8-series doesnt support xvmc

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SlicerDicer:

I have 6600GT

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SlicerDicer:

so no problem there :)

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wagnerrp:

should work fine... if you can get it working...

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SlicerDicer:

wagnerrp: the drivers are fubared

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wagnerrp:

ive never had much success with xvmc

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SlicerDicer:

and have been for a while now as far as I can tell

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SlicerDicer:

I am thinking of going to drivers from 2006 maybe

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SlicerDicer:

7184 or somesuch thing

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wagnerrp:

maybe try the 162s or 167s

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SlicerDicer:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-7676.html maybe there

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trumee:

guys, mythtv is showing a lot of "NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times"

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trumee:

this happened after i changed my motherboard.

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trumee:

i have tried several thing, recompiled mythtv and changed to kernel 2.6.20 from 2.6.27. But the problem remains. I can only watch 15 minutes of livetv

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trumee:

i am gentoo and using mythtv-0.21_p19961

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trumee:

I tried mplayer and it works stably for a long time

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trumee:

If i record something and watch it later, it works ok. only live gives these prebuffer errors.

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trumee:

Is it possible to actually disable recording when watching LiveTV?

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trumee:

I have a Nvidia 7600GT card

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trumee:

I will also be happy if mythtv fires off mplayer for livetv but does recording itself other times

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trumee:

The recording disks on the system are 75% full, could this be a problem? I have a disk of 466Gb out of which only 120Gb is available

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trumee:

Sorry for spamming you all with my problems :(

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wagnerrp:

a 466GB disk?

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trumee:

but it is really frustrating. Maybe i should ditch gentoo and use ubuntu or something

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trumee:

It is a 1TB disk which has 2 partitions of 500Gb each

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wagnerrp:

why did you partition it?

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trumee:

just to be on the safer side. so that if one partition has a problem i can use the other one

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trumee:

any idea which these Prebuffer wait time occur, is it because the disks are too slow to respond?

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trumee:

s/which/why

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trumee:

what logs do i need to report a bug to mythtv?

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laga:

trumee: it's not a bug, it's a configuration problem unless proven otherwise

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trumee:

laga, what could be the problem for these buffer problems.

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trumee:

mchou suggested i should try 2.6.20 because it has old scheduler, but that didnt work either

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Dagmar:

Is the prebuffering pause affecting playback?

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trumee:

Dagmar, yes the LiveTv just stalls and these Prebuffer messages start appearing in the console

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trumee:

I can watch Livetv for only a couple of minutes

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Dagmar:

So did you turn on aggressive audio buffering?

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trumee:

I tried both with it and without it. But I will give it a go again now. Is it better to have it switched off?

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Dagmar:

You generally want it on.

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Dagmar:

Have you tested your disk throughput?

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trumee:

I have a sata disk and hdparm reports about 113.65 MB/sec

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Dagmar:

For which test

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trumee:

Timing buffered disk reads: 342 MB in 3.01 seconds = 113.65 MB/sec

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trumee:

hdparm -Tt /dev/sda1

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Dagmar:

Ah well, I'd try using something like MythBuntu then

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trumee:

Thge disk is 75% full

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Dagmar:

So what

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Dagmar:

Can the thing make recordings if you're *not* watching them?

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trumee:

Yes it can. It perfectly does that

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Dagmar:

So you have an ATI video card?

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trumee:

No i have an Nvidia 7600GT

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Dagmar:

You've installed nVidia's driver?

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trumee:

Yes i have version 180.29

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Dagmar:

...because if the thing fails when you're trying to watch it while it records, then you've probably got some conflict between your tuner card and your video card.

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dougl:

when I copy music to my directory mythtv looks at for mp3 files – do I have to restart the frontend to make it see them?

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Dagmar:

You're *sure* they're not in slots that share an interrupt?

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Dagmar:

doug1: No you just need to tell the thing to rescan the music directories

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trumee:

Dagmar, hmm not sure of that. how can i check that

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Dagmar:

...just like you told it to scan them in the first place

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stuarta:

trumee: cat /proc/interrupts

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mchou:

trumee: if older kernels didn't work it's time for you to try the mm or rt kernels

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Dagmar:

trumee: KNowing about hardware, looking at your motherboard manual, paying attention to the POST inventory screen as the machine boots up

[19:54:33]

dougl:

Dagmar, err – was I supposed to remember what I did to get it to work – lol

[19:54:41]

mchou:

trumee: this is strictly a kernel issue

[19:54:51]

Dagmar:

doug1: Yes, generally users are expected to be able to remember simple tasks from day to day

[19:55:23]

trumee:

Dagmar, ok it seeems irq 16 is shared between the card and nvidia

[19:55:24]

dougl:

Dagmar, was just kidding – I will find it again = thanks for the info :)

[19:55:55]

Dagmar:

trumee: So that basically won't work. Try moving one of those cards to a different slot

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Dagmar:

doug1: I do totally agree the menus are a bit of a briar patch

[19:56:29]

laga:

the users list is utterly hilarious

[19:56:32]

Dagmar:

After while you just get used to walking through them until you find what you were looking for

[19:56:36]

trumee:

Dagmar, i have only two pci slots with cards in both of them and nvidia card is in a pci-express slot.

[19:57:02]

trumee:

Dagmar, but this is an sli system so i will try to put the card in another slot

[19:57:02]

Dagmar:

trumee: Then you may well have a problem

[19:57:03]

mchou:

trumee: your issue has nothing to do with interrupt sharing

[19:57:23]

trumee:

Dagmar, i will see if i can reserve an irq in the BIOS

[19:57:25]

Dagmar:

mchou: So feel free to tell him what his problem is then

[19:57:25]

mchou:

trumee: especially since your frontend is on another system

[19:57:51]

mchou:

Dagmar: Why dont you read. I did tell him

[19:57:59]

trumee:

mchou, i have 1 frontend and 1 frontend/backend. and the problem appears on both

[19:58:37]

mchou:

and the fact it appears on the frontend says it has nothing to do with interrupt sharing

[19:59:04]

Dagmar:

Well, unless these are 900Mhz T-birds, I find it impossible to believe that it should require one of the ricer kernel mods to play back SD content

[19:59:25]

mchou:

Dagmar: hah, shows how much you dont know

[19:59:55]

trumee:

The box has an Athlon64 AM2 2.2Ghz dual core

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Dagmar:

Considering I'm playing back SD with no problem on a 550Mhz laptop, you can take your ricer mods and shove them

[20:00:23]

mchou:

Dagmar: right

[20:00:27]

mchou:

ricer mods

[20:00:39]

Dagmar:

You can especially take that additide and shack up with it in my ignore list

[20:00:50]

cityLights1:

hi all , when I use 0.20 and 0.21 on a hyper thread cpu they crash on exit. 0.22 if fine. can I fix 0.21 from crashing?

[20:00:51]

mchou:

Dagmar: good riddance

[20:01:15]

trumee:

Dagmar,mchou: i tried it again on the single frontend and i am getting Prebuffers "RingBuf(/mnt/myth1/recordings/2602_20090221200000.mpg) Error: Waited 16 seconds for data, aborting"

[20:01:15]

Dagmar:

cityLights1: If you have to ask then probably not

[20:01:23]

cityLights1:

I can't use 0.22 as I constantly get buffer over run

[20:01:43]

mchou:

trumee: mm or rt kernel. guarantee it will work w/o issues

[20:02:03]

Dagmar:

trumee: That would somewhat mean it's not getting data from the backend process. Check the backend's logs there and see if it's carping about anything

[20:02:57]

mchou:

trumee: you compile you own kernel?

[20:03:19]

cityLights1:

I used http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Troubleshooting:Prebuffering_pause yet it still doesnt show

[20:03:29]

mchou:

trumee: if you use the wrong scheduler you will see these problems

[20:03:33]

trumee:

Dagmar, i get this http://www.pastebin.ca/1343857

[20:03:42]

trumee:

mchou, yes i compiled my own kernel

[20:03:49]

mchou:

cityLights1: what version kernel and distro you using?

[20:03:53]

cityLights1:

I did manage to see liveTv on 0.20 with the same prescott cpu 2.8

[20:04:15]

cityLights1:

2.6.27-gentoo-r7 #9 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 23:40:59 IST 2009 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

[20:04:49]

cityLights1:

I use an ati RV250 (7500) with the open source X support AKA radeon

[20:05:06]

cityLights1:

need I test with a nVida FX 5200 card?

[20:05:36]

trumee:

mchou, i cant find the scheduler option in 2.6.27

[20:05:45]

mchou:

trumee: well, that's part of your problem right there. What i/o scheduler, premtion model, config-hz you using?

[20:05:46]

Dagmar:

trumee: Is that from *while* it's having issues playing?

[20:05:58]

Dagmar:

...and is that playing liveTV or just playing a recording the backend made?

[20:06:17]

Dagmar:

...because this looks like your DVB card is screwing over teh whole system

[20:06:30]

mchou:

haha, all people having playback issues using gentoo

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trumee:

mchou, Timer freq is 250Hz, Pre-emption is off (Server), cant find the I/O scheduler

[20:07:18]

cityLights1:

I can fix it, just tell me how..

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mchou:

you fix it by knowing what you're doing, not blindly compiling junk

[20:07:55]

trumee:

Dagmar, the kernel i am talking about is both frontend/backend

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trumee:

mchou, ok default scheduler is CFQ

[20:08:47]

cityLights1:

mchou: is this a kernel issue? I am guessing it is a X issue

[20:09:05]

mchou:

no, it's strictly a kernel issue

[20:09:42]

trumee:

Dagmar, after i changed the motherboard i recompiled the kernel with these settings (using the old .config) and the problems started appearing

[20:09:50]

mchou:

wrong compile options (and kernel versioning)

[20:10:01]

cityLights1:

mchou: are you talking to me sir?

[20:10:18]

mchou:

I'm talking to cityLights1 and trumee

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trumee:

Dagmar, i did have pelnt of pci slots on the old motherboard so dont remember whether irq was shared between the tv cards and the graphics card

[20:10:45]

cityLights1:

o ok then let me check /sys/kernel/uids

[20:10:56]

Dagmar:

So, you *probably* need to make sure you have the *right chipset support* in your kernel, dude.

[20:11:17]

Dagmar:

That's kind of a "typical" mistake--changing a motherboard but keeping the old config

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cityLights1:

USER_SCHED is not enabled.

[20:11:40]

cityLights1:

need I change it

[20:11:44]

trumee:

Dagmar, oh yes i did setup the right chipset for the sata drives. i am on NV SATA driver no previously it was via chipset

[20:11:50]

Dagmar:

There's generic SATA and IDE drivers that will "mostly" run the machine but can fail dramatically if you actually push them

[20:12:02]

mchou:

It's no accident that when CFQ became default in 2.6.18 playback on myth went to crap

[20:12:21]

Dagmar:

cityLights1: If you are editing your .config directly, stop doing that

[20:12:36]

trumee:

Dagmar, i only have AHCI and Nvidia SATA enabled.

[20:12:37]

stuarta:

deadline is my favourite scheduler

[20:13:18]

Dagmar:

trumee: And you're *sure* the thing can do playback of recordings you made before. right?

[20:13:55]

trumee:

Dagmar, hmm let me play something for a while

[20:14:09]

cityLights1:

Dagmar: I dont have a /sys/kernel/

[20:14:23]

cityLights1:

I need to make module_config my kernel

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Dagmar:

So what the hell does /sys/kernel have to do with anything?

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cityLights1:

echo 2 > /sys/kernel/<uid>/cpu_share rihgt

[20:15:29]

cityLights1:

accoring to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Troubleshooting:Pr . . . onfiguration

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mchou:

cityLights1: make module_config? for what?

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cityLights1:

menuconfig I ment

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trumee:

mchou, i am setting deadline scheduler and compiling again

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mchou:

trumee: dude....

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cityLights1:

I see preemption model is set to low latency – is that it?

[20:17:30]

trumee:

mchou, yes

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mchou:

trumee: there are other things you need to set correctly

[20:17:51]

mchou:

trumee: stop the hail mary approach

[20:17:54]

cityLights1:

and my timer freq is 1000Hz

[20:17:59]

trumee:

mchou, ok. what are the other things?

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Dagmar:

cityLights1: You know, that screen has a help page that directly relates to MythTV.

[20:19:03]

tanderson:

Hello, I'm packaging mythtv up for a source-based distribution. Is there a recommendation on how to filter C{XX}FLAGS?

[20:19:22]

tanderson:

I probably need a mythtv dev for that one

[20:19:26]

laga:

tanderson: look how gentoo does it?

[20:19:34]

cityLights1:

Dagmar: sorry, I am seeking that GROUP_SCHED in the menuconfig – and dont see it

[20:19:44]

iamlindoro:

At last, MythExherbo!

[20:20:00]

tanderson:

laga: They do quite a bit. I'm not sure how much exactly is needed

[20:20:03]

tanderson:

iamlindoro: indeed

[20:20:04]

cityLights1:

ha ha I think I see it

[20:20:12]

laga:

iamlindoro: sweet.

[20:20:12]

jams:

iamlindoro- was doll house better this week? i have yet to watch it

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iamlindoro:

the "go eff yourself of myth distros!

[20:20:21]

laga:

tanderson: i'd assume cardoe knows what he's doing.

[20:20:26]

iamlindoro:

jams, Sooooooooooooooooooo much better

[20:20:44]

tanderson:

laga: I'm sure, but how much of the filtering is really needed/wanted by upstream

[20:20:45]

jams:

good

[20:20:59]

tanderson:

iamlindoro: it's gotten quite a bit better because it's not as experimental

[20:20:59]

wagnerrp:

yeah, i was rather disappointed with the pilot

[20:21:08]

iamlindoro:

jams, lots lots more whedon style dialog, and a plot that didn't... what's that word.... sucky

[20:21:13]

trumee:

mchou, what other options do you suggest to change?

[20:21:19]

iamlindoro:

s/sucky/suck/

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Dagmar:

cityLights1: That's because you're listening to ricers apparently. I've been leaving that at the default of GROUP_OTHER and the setting just below it to "user"

[20:22:31]

tanderson:

iamlindoro: in fact, I'm even running kde+X and haven't had a glitch yet. Definitely moving along

[20:23:03]

iamlindoro:

tanderson, too bad their web page is still definitively full of "eff you, n00b!"

[20:23:18]

iamlindoro:

heh, "User support is a lot of work, and is best left to other projects."

[20:23:32]

laga:

tanderson: are you really using exherbo?

[20:23:35]

iamlindoro:

If that is your attitude, *don't release distros!*

[20:23:39]

cityLights1:

ok folks , I guess my kernel didnt provide enougth attention to the front and backend as this is a standalone pc

[20:23:44]

Dagmar:

"Basis for grouping tasks (user id)-->" <-- 2.6.26.x, 2.6.28 no problems at all

[20:23:46]

tanderson:

laga: yeah

[20:23:46]

laga:

iamlindoro: i think that's their point, kinda

[20:24:04]

tanderson:

Their attitude is like that because it's not ready for users yet I think

[20:24:06]

cityLights1:

I added the Group CPU scheduler feature and I am recompiling the kernel

[20:24:06]

iamlindoro:

laga, Well, we all need something to make us feel special just like everyone else ;)

[20:24:16]

laga:

iamlindoro: burn. :)

[20:24:40]

iamlindoro:

so anyway, yeah, Dollhouse much better this week, now I feel there's hope

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iamlindoro:

jams, Actually, watch last nights and think about that episode as the pilot, and I think it would have been a MUCH better one

[20:25:40]

Dagmar:

I've no idea how that particular option could be doing me any good, since I've got the thing running myth as root (because it's an appliance for pete's sake)

[20:25:56]

Dagmar:

I could just as easily turn it off, it's simply how the Slackware kernel came setup

[20:27:30]

trumee:

cityLights1, where is the Group Scheduler option?

[20:27:53]

cityLights1:

Group Scheduler option was found at general setup

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Dagmar:

Under General Setup

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Dagmar:

One probably doesn't need a fancy scheduler at all

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trumee:

Dagmar,cityLights1:there is no Group Scheduler in General Setup

[20:29:27]

cityLights1:

but you guys say it should solve my problem – right?

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Dagmar:

Yes, there is

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trumee:

Dagmar,cityLights1:uggh, sorry i was in 2.6.20

[20:30:17]

cityLights1:

no problem mate

[20:30:42]

Dagmar:

trumee: Then you can probably ignore that, except for that you might get better utility from your DVB card by using a newer kernel and drivers

[20:31:02]

trumee:

Dagmar, i am now setting this option in 2.6.27

[20:32:10]

trumee:

cityLights1, i guess you are using gentoo as well. What did you set in Group Sched?

[20:32:49]

cityLights1:

I am a proud gentoo user :-) I am waiting for my new kernel to build

[20:33:08]

laga:

haha

[20:33:11]

laga:

quote of the day :)

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stuarta:

s/user/victim

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cityLights1:

I will then follow the info in the wiki i just linked here

[20:33:22]

Dagmar:

Just a reminder, you don't necessarily NEED a fancy kernel scheduler

[20:33:27]

Dagmar:

Things worked just fine before that came along.

[20:33:29]

iamlindoro:

distro evangelism is lame

[20:33:43]

Dagmar:

It will, however, give you a great opportunity to screw things up if you misconfigure it.

[20:34:04]

cityLights1:

iamlindoro: right

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Dagmar:

Translation: THERE IS ONLY DOWN FROM HERE.

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cityLights1:

I like current head version – it doesnt crash my X

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Dagmar:

You need to stop using Gentoo.

[20:34:55]

cityLights1:

yet I still to see it all work together

[20:35:13]

cityLights1:

I may need to switch to nVidia

[20:35:30]

cityLights1:

pls explain me – is ATI a bad card compared to nvidia?

[20:35:41]

cityLights1:

does the ATI drivers – suck?

[20:35:49]

cityLights1:

isnt overlay – ok?

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stuarta:

they work okay

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stuarta:

nothing special however

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cityLights1:

do I NEED to use flgx instead of the radeon ?

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stuarta:

i don't

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cityLights1:

what card then?

[20:36:53]

cityLights1:

9600?

[20:37:09]

cityLights1:

I may buy the x1600 soon

[20:37:15]

stuarta:

only if your card needs special support

[20:37:45]

cityLights1:

what do you meen by " special support"?

[20:37:57]

stuarta:

not supported by free drivers

[20:38:13]

cityLights1:

what does mythtv actually needs of the video card? 2d accelaration?

[20:38:47]

cityLights1:

pls name a special feature relevent to mythtv

[20:39:19]

stuarta:

ati doesn't have any that has driver support

[20:39:19]

cityLights1:

I know nVidia offers VDUA some sort of GPU handeling of deintrlacing

[20:39:27]

stuarta:

VDPAU

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iamlindoro:

hahahahahahaha

[20:39:32]

cityLights1:

right

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stuarta:

ATI have an equivalent

[20:39:42]

iamlindoro:

what a totally wrong understanding of VDPAU

[20:39:53]

gbee:

VDPAU isn't that stable right now anyway

[20:40:01]

wagnerrp:

can you actually buy an x1600?

[20:40:02]

stuarta:

but haven't released any API interface or implementation

[20:40:11]

** gbee gave up on it for now **

[20:40:13]

cityLights1:

relax

[20:40:26]

iamlindoro:

looks like XvBa Might (MIGHT) work if vaapi stuff hits ffmpeg

[20:40:31]

iamlindoro:

which would be neat

[20:40:32]

cityLights1:

I dig that vdpau thing – yet I need to understand if I NEED to upgrade my 7500 graphics card

[20:40:42]

iamlindoro:

if you want to use it, yes

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Dagmar:

cityLights1: If you have no VC-1 content (bluray) or any h.264 content, then you might need it

[20:41:40]

Dagmar:

If all you're watching is MPEG content, then you don't have to care.

[20:41:51]

Dagmar:

er... s/no/any/l

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cityLights1:

except for the VDPAU does nVidia offer any other gems that ati free drv lacks?

[20:42:13]

wagnerrp:

Xv support

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iamlindoro:

gbee, agreed, but I would be very into Alex Stragnes frame-level multithread stuff

[20:42:24]

iamlindoro:

er Strange's

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wagnerrp:

somewhat of a necessity for mythtv

[20:42:27]

laga:

the free ati driver has Xv support on lots of cards

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wagnerrp:

does it? well then whats the problem with everyone in here with video performance issues on there ati cards?

[20:43:17]

** stuarta shrugs **

[20:43:31]

cityLights1:

doesnt the ati free drv support xv?

[20:43:39]

stuarta:

yes it does

[20:43:56]

stuarta:

!trout wagnerrp ati shaped xv interface

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** MythLogBot slaps wagnerrp with a ati shaped xv interface trout on behalf of stuarta... **

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cityLights1:

I see – so you say I should give the propriaty drv a chance

[20:44:18]

stuarta:

when did i say that

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Dagmar:

Well, it can't kill your dog.

[20:44:21]

cityLights1:

and if it doesnt go – move to nVidia

[20:44:28]

stuarta:

huh?

[20:44:37]

cityLights1:

ok then

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** stuarta happily uses ATI with free drivers **

[20:44:48]

cityLights1:

maybe it aint my kernel and it is my graphics

[20:44:59]

cityLights1:

what card?

[20:45:05]

cityLights1:

chat GPU?

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stuarta:

9550

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cityLights1:

aha

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cityLights1:

pls see if my xorg.conf is ok , stuarta , http://rafb.net/p/rIbBlh36.html

[20:46:38]

cityLights1:

I mean I see tv ok in tvtime...

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wonko:

do i need to run mythbackend if I don't have a tuner card at all?

[20:47:37]

cityLights1:

brb, I am off to brush my teath

[20:47:38]

Dagmar:

If you have no tuner card you don't need MythTV.

[20:47:53]

stuarta:

wtf do you turn OpenGL off?

[20:48:01]

cityLights1:

me?

[20:48:09]

stuarta:

yes you

[20:48:39]

stuarta:

more to the point. wtf generated that config?

[20:48:51]

Dagmar:

"A gentoo user"

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iamlindoro:

That's some xorg

[20:49:29]

iamlindoro:

This is why we can't have nice things

[20:49:42]

stuarta:

now this is mine -> http://rafb.net/p/UBJQ2e81.html

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cityLights1:

that was some stuff I read online that said that I need to change stuff to have overlay work

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laga:

maybe someone needs to post some mythtv logs.

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cityLights1:

I am coping of <stuarta> xorg.conf

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justinh:

!trout ProcrastinatoR unsolicited-MSG

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iamlindoro:

busted

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stuarta:

i've 2 monitors, so you may want to remove the 2nd one

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cityLights1:

Driver "radeon" is missing in the device ...?

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Dagmar:

No I will not tell you what I'm wearing

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Dagmar:

Shucks. No one likes my suggestion of redirecting IE6 users to cracks.am

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justinh:

lol

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Dagmar:

I like to think of it as a mercy killing

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cityLights1:

let me restart now

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cityLights1:

see you soon

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stuarta:

can we hide now?

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iamlindoro:

He's in his car driving to your house

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** stuarta sp0rks iamlindoro **

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dougl:

I am trying to get mythmusic to play mp3 on my frontend thru spdif connection – currnetly mythfrontend says "AudioOutput Error: Rate doesn't match (requested 44100Hz, got 48000Hz)" when I try to play mp3 – is there a fix for this?

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justinh:

damn. text from my wife. she's been talking to her friend's husband who reckons we shouldn't be taking those trees down tomorrow or we risk being put in prison. Duhhhhhhhhhhh. Yeah but not when said trees aren't the subject of protection orders. Doofus

[21:01:28]

Dagmar:

Yeah, it's probably on the wiki, too

[21:01:45]

Dagmar:

Trees need protection orders?

[21:02:10]

justinh:

they do when a mate of mine is coming over with his big chainsaw tomorrow

[21:02:18]

Dagmar:

Ahah

[21:02:45]

justinh:

hope I come out of it with my typing arm still intact

[21:04:03]

dougl:

Dagmar, were you suggesting the wiki for me?

[21:04:05]

justinh:

Dagmar: yeah if anybody is sentimental about a tree they can apply for a protection order which forbids any work being done without permission. I already checked and no, ours aren't protected

[21:04:11]

Dagmar:

doug1: Why yes

[21:04:29]

Dagmar:

What a wonderful idea... consulting a large body of documentation about common problems

[21:04:58]

dougl:

lol – I have been there for days... I found a large body of documentation that confuses me...

[21:05:09]

justinh:

dougl: you need to consult the 'configuring digital sound' page. And somehow avoid the wrong information which is there

[21:05:21]

justinh:

there are answers to the problem in other places though

[21:05:24]

Dagmar:

.,..then less TV is probably better for your mind

[21:05:36]

justinh:

Dagmar: configuring alsa is ass

[21:05:49]

justinh:

I gave up on trying to follow that guide

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gbee:

alsa is ass

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dougl:

justinh, thanks for the moral support tho :)

[21:06:26]

justinh:

dougl: search for 'alsa resample to 48khz'

[21:06:49]

justinh:

some soundcards only allow 48khz streams, so they complain when fed with other sample rates

[21:07:00]

dougl:

it does suck – I had it working and restarted my frontend cuz I could not get out of playing mp3 media and it quit working – I changed nothing and it quit working

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justinh:

pretty lame, but alsa allows resampling on the fly

[21:07:45]

justinh:

not hi-fi apparently but it'll get you going & allegedly you have to have the ears of a bat to notice any difference anyway

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Dagmar:

Well, the only other real option is to ditch the substandard sound chipset

[21:12:29]

wonko:

hmmm, now to figure out why X doesn't want to stay running on my minimyth box

[21:12:32]

wonko:

bah

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justinh:

not enough memory? ;)

[21:13:01]

justinh:

when I ran minimyth, even mythfrontend falling over would take X with it

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justinh:

all tied in, see

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wonko:

2GB should be enough I would hope. :)

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wonko:

1.9GB free. :)

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justinh:

well, get mythfrontend to write some log output & see if it's that which is falling over causing X to stop by way of terminating the script which launches the lot

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justinh:

maybe it's done differently now I dunno

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justinh:

about 18 months ago, mythfrontend exiting would stop X too

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wonko:

that might be it since it's complaining that i need to run mythtv-setup to update the db schema

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wonko:

could that cause mythfrontend to stop running?

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Dagmar:

*snicker*

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Dagmar:

Dude, if it's telling you to do something, you need to do it.

[21:18:34]

wonko:

yeah, except i can't run mythtv-setup without X!

[21:20:31]

Dagmar:

That's fine since you can't run mythfrontend without X either.

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wonko:

so the question stands

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wonko:

will the schema needing to be updated cause mythfrontend to not run?

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Dagmar:

Sure.

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Dagmar:

It can also cause database corruption and teen pregnancy.

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wonko:

ok, so then i seem to have a bit of a catch-22 if i need mythfrontend to run for X but it won't run until i run mythtv-setup, which also needs X

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justinh:

wonko: schema updates shouldn't be done by minimyth. ideally you should run mythtv-setup on the backend

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wonko:

does a backend require a tuner card or can i run it without?

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gbee:

doesn't require a tuner

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Dagmar:

There is no catch 22.

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Dagmar:

X does not need mythfrontend or anything else

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justinh:

are you trying to run minimyth on its own without a backend machine?

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StickMan:

yeah, x just pretty much needs a video driver and a kernel

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justinh:

... because it's really not meant to be used completely standalone like that

[21:25:29]

Dagmar:

But hey, who uses things for the purposes they were desgned

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wonko:

oh, they should probably mention that somewhere in the docs then

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wonko:

ok, so back to battling the build of mythtv

[21:26:01]

wonko:

yay

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Dagmar:

wonko: If you'd like I'll go put a note in the documentation that MythTV should not be used for treating erectile dysfunction.

[21:26:22]

justinh:

really needs a backend to host er.. the backend.. and a database server. neither of which come with minimyth last time I looked

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Dagmar:

Just because it doesn't say you can't use it to control a nuclear reactor doesn't mean you shouldn't try.

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wonko:

justinh: i've got mysql running on a different machine

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justinh:

also, minimyth likely doesn't include mythtv-setup either

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wonko:

the minimyth docs kinda failed to mention i needed to be running mythbackend as well

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Dagmar:

So get them to fix their docs

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justinh:

when I used it, lots of reqeuests to have the backend included fell on deaf ears

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justinh:

wonko: you could always build it yourself.. but that's a very time-consuming process

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wonko:

i don't mind having to run it myself

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wonko:

i just wish they could bother to point out the fact that i needed to

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justinh:

like uhh.. building a whole distro kind of time consuming

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Dagmar:

You should read http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Executive_Overview so you can have a clue about what's supposed to be going on

[21:29:05]

Dagmar:

Their docs, frankly, suck

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justinh:

wonko: que sera. quite a lot of things assume a certain level of knowledge

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Dagmar:

At least that'll let you know what pieces are necessary and why

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wonko:

justinh: to make matters worse, the machine i'd have to run the backend on is solaris and from what little googling i've done so far, it's not looking good. :)

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justinh:

you can't roll up to them & start saying "huh? what is this KEYBOARD thing they speak of?"

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Dagmar:

0.x version number means "You don't get to just mash your face on the keyboard to make it go"

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Dagmar:

wonko: Yeah, you can pretty much stop now

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Dagmar:

Solaris' Video4Linux support is notably thin

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wonko:

Dagmar: thanks for the link, that's something i really needed as the minimyth folks kinda assume you already know what you are doing. I've never touched myth before

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wonko:

do i need V4L if i have no tuner card?

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justinh:

nope

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Dagmar:

...but without a tuner there's little point in using this

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justinh:

one man's little point is another man's reason to exist, but hey

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wonko:

you mean i can't put avi/mkv/etc files in a directory somewhere and play them? seems kinda like something mythtv should be able to do

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gbee:

these distro guys don't do themselves, or us, any favours – we end dealing with the support requests for their products/f***ups

[21:32:29]

justinh:

minimyth guys pretty much make it clear that it's a frontend-only based gadget

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gbee:

mythtv is a PVR first, a media player a close second, the functionality you want is made available through the mythvideo plugin, an official, but not core part of mythfrontend

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justinh:

it'd be up to prospective users to realise what that means, so I'd say fair play

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justinh:

wouldn't take much to modify a minimyth build to include the backend binaries I bet

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justinh:

it builds _everything_ so likely just omits some copying

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wonko:

that might be worth looking into since when i do get a tuner card, that's the machine it would likely go in anyway

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justinh:

since --frontend-only is as much use as a chocolate fireguard ;)

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justinh:

there are much easier ways to get mythtv running though

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wonko:

on a diskless machine?

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justinh:

and you'd not have 8+ hours of compiling to do

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gbee:

wonko: I don't think it really offers anything that mythtv doesn't, but you might look at XBMC instead, it's like mythtv but without the distributed network architecture or the PVR/TV capabilities, so it's probably better suited and easier to get set up

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wonko:

the attraction to minimyth is that the machine that would be hooked to the TV has no HDD

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wonko:

gbee: i'll give that a look, thanks

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justinh:

wonko: never heard of nfsroot huh

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wonko:

justinh: didn't want to have to manage a linux box either, so it helped there as well

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justinh:

forget the proper name for doing a network-based install, but that's also an option

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justinh:

won't solaris serve nfs & tftp ?

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wonko:

but yeah, nfsroot would work

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wonko:

sure they will

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wonko:

they are right now

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wonko:

they

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wonko:

heh

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justinh:

there you go then :)

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wonko:

yes, solaris, not they

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wonko:

;)

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wonko:

last time i setup a network boot linux box though i ended up wanting to stab myself in the face

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wonko:

i wonder if Crux will run myth properly

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justinh:

heck you can probably even make a usb boot stick and have that mount a writable nfs share where the rootfs is kept

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Dagmar:

Just be sure to direct all future questions about that to justinh, directly.

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justinh:

my frontend was originally mythbuntu installed onto a HDD, then copied to an nfs server. Now diskless :)

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justinh:

with the requisite adjustments to config files etc...

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wonko:

hmmm, XBMC Live

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wonko:

let's give that a go

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Dagmar:

>.<

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justinh:

they have a live cd now? whoah

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gbee:

finally entered the 21st centuary

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wonko:

ugh, and crappy download speeds. whee. ;)

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justinh:

that's (usually) my experiece of anything hosted on sourceforge

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wonko:

hmmm, or maybe my wireless is acting up again

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wonko:

i really need to replace that POS wrt54g

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justinh:

so now you know what to shoot when you find that media files don't play smoothly ;)

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justinh:

well, I've been ignoring this ENOJACKDANIELS error for wayyy too long.. so...

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wonko:

justinh: i don't use wifi for the media stuff

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wonko:

;)

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wonko:

mmm

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wonko:

jack

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Dibblah:

Ugh. Welding is fun.

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stuarta:

yes, lots of sparks :)

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stuarta:

off to the couch. l8r

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gbee:

really starting to love GreyFoxx's mythvideo storage group implementation, can spread videos out across available space and it remains seamless in the UI

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gbee:

since the drive I'd originally dedicated to archiving is full that's handy

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gbee:

just need iamlindoro's export patch

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psicobra:

hi all

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psicobra:

finally got my tv card working with sound

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psicobra:

really wasn't the way i wanted to do it but never the less it works now

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psicobra:

does any one know how to make the tv picture automatically progressive?

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dougl:

yeah – I have combed over http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Configuring_Digital_Sound and still cannot play mp3 thru my mythfrontend .021 on ubuntu 8.04...

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tank-man:

dougl, have you gone thru all the options from the frontend?

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dougl:

tank-man, yes

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RDV_Linux:

Only with VDPAU I get a "Locking assertion failure" and "Timed out waiting for free video buffers". See: http://pastebin.ca/1344005 the first error is about 6 pgdns. I do not get either of these errors when I use the Normal playback profile (xv-blit). Any help would be appreciated. I already tried all suggestions in the mythtv wiki.

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