| Wednesday, December 31st, 2008, 00:04 UTC |
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iamlindoro: |
Oy, well that's helpful, only english track on the Firefly blu rays is DTS-HD which libav* very helpfully does nothing with |
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iamlindoro: |
Heh, the stupid HD-PVR on -fixes wiki page has the user steamroll files right over packages. Elegant. |
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iamlindoro: |
Isn't there *something* we can do about pages that are actively harmful? |
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iamlindoro: |
You can't write about SCs there, why should you be allowed to write about breaking your DB? |
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poodyp: |
revert it? |
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iamlindoro: |
Needs to be reverted out of existence |
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iamlindoro: |
needs to be such that they would have to *rewrite* it to readd is |
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iamlindoro: |
it |
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abqjp: |
iamlindoro: I skimmed it. It does not even tell the user how to use the best version of the available patches. |
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iamlindoro: |
abqjp, There are many, many things wrong with the page and the warning barely covers what's wrong about it |
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iamlindoro: |
He had my commercial cut scripts in there yesterday, but I removed them with a request that they not be readded |
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iamlindoro: |
As I want nothing to do with that smoking turd |
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abqjp: |
I understand the desire to use the HD-PVR. And, I understand the desire NOT to use TRUNK. But I cringe at the processes that people are using. |
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iamlindoro: |
You can't have an omelette without breaking some eggs |
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poodyp: |
how stable is trunk currently? |
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iamlindoro: |
these people want all the features and none of the risk and life just don't work that way |
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poodyp: |
and can a trunk slave backend talk to a stable master backend? |
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iamlindoro: |
poodyp, It's a totally abstract question. If you are the only person to use your system and don't mind risking new features literally burning out hardware, then go for it. |
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iamlindoro: |
and no, the revisions across your system must match |
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abqjp: |
poodyp: backend and frontend must be the same version |
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abqjp: |
poodyp: backend is actually very stable. Frontend, not so much. |
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poodyp: |
oh well |
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poodyp: |
I'm not even running a production system currently so I'm not missing anything |
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phix: |
hey |
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phix: |
I can't seem to get mt TV tuner working in Linux / MythTv |
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Anduin: |
phix: if if doesn't work in linux you are probably better off in one of the v4l channels, which card? |
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phix: |
03:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Unknown device 8852 (rev 02) |
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phix: |
Anduin: winfast pXDVR3200 H |
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phix: |
main chips are: CX3028+23885+23417+MT353 |
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Anduin: |
phix: You may get more help in #linuxtv, the wiki info for that card seems to show that the DVB side may work but I don't know if it is in the kernel yet. |
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iamlindoro: |
Whee, fun times: http://www.fecitfacta.com/MVplaying.png |
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gbee: |
nice :) |
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gbee: |
only one small issue, what happens at the edge of the screen? |
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iamlindoro: |
It's all pretty legible, only lose a couple pixels at the side |
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gbee: |
really? hmm, I'll take your word for it :) |
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iamlindoro: |
http://www.fecitfacta.com/MVplaying-edge.png |
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gbee: |
background changes with selection, or is that just random? |
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iamlindoro: |
Nothing that would prevent you from seeing what it is |
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iamlindoro: |
Still static, need to appeal to you for dynamic ones :) |
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gbee: |
sure, I just meant which did you have planned :) |
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iamlindoro: |
Oh, yeah, would use changing backgrounds when available |
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gbee: |
the background reflecting the selected item or just pulling a random image from the folder |
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iamlindoro: |
The former |
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iamlindoro: |
and the latter when none set, ideally |
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GreyFoxx: |
the background could be the fanart ? |
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GreyFoxx: |
If there is any |
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gbee: |
yeah, that's not a problem |
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GreyFoxx: |
That zoomcover image screen just needs some audio bling as you move around. some bing/click or something hehe |
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iamlindoro: |
With a lot of these effects applied MV strtup is noticeably slower (but fast once inside) |
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gbee: |
the former can be done now, only you need the fanart of course which is probably why you haven't done it already |
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iamlindoro: |
gbee, In what way could you implement the first case now? |
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gbee: |
well the fanart and the fanart handling code ... umm forgetting that it's not been written yet |
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iamlindoro: |
(genuine question as I had thought it not possible) |
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iamlindoro: |
ah, yeah :) |
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iamlindoro: |
Is that not been written, or "not been written?" |
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gbee: |
could display the poster now, but that wouldn't really be the same |
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iamlindoro: |
right |
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iamlindoro: |
yeah, I guess you could zoom it way the hell up, but yuck |
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gbee: |
given that Anduin only just volunteered ... |
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iamlindoro: |
Hey, you often know something I don't, just checking |
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GreyFoxx: |
and if you are in afolder maybe use folder.xxx as the fanart if none are defined for the specific file? |
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iamlindoro: |
GreyFoxx, I'd hate to make it that staic |
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iamlindoro: |
static |
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iamlindoro: |
would be nicer just to choose at random from valid image types in /path/to/ |
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iamlindoro: |
And add a new subfolder to ~/.mythtv/MythVideo called backdrops |
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iamlindoro: |
(of course it'd be a DB value, but that's where I'd default it) |
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Anduin: |
I'd be more likely to fix it somewhere in the existing artwork directory |
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GreyFoxx: |
iamlindoro: I'm just thinking for example if I have a folder of Family Guy season 3, and each file has a coverfile but no fan art. It would be nice to show the folder.xxx if one was available |
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GreyFoxx: |
otherwise you'd get random whatever that has nothing to do with the content of the folder |
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Anduin: |
GreyFoxx: there is an existing ticket that I'll get to soon that tries harder to find artwork |
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GreyFoxx: |
cool |
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iamlindoro: |
GreyFoxx, not that that doesn't still look good (that's what Aeon does) |
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iamlindoro: |
But I believe they also allow for a fixed fanart for a whole folder too |
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iamlindoro: |
eg http://japhule.collinsreport.com/avs/xbmc/aeon11c.jpg |
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GreyFoxx: |
That looks really cool for folders with TV eps |
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GreyFoxx: |
And I have a lot of those |
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iamlindoro: |
Might be nice to create an alternative type to folder.jpg/png |
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Anduin: |
iamlindoro: The search for folder.png will look up until it finds one, so with the proper directory structure that should work (if folder.png is allowed, maybe I'll look for a backdrops dir instead, folder.png is likely to be ugly) |
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iamlindoro: |
ie folder.jpg is the folder icon, folder_backdrop.png is the backdrop |
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GreyFoxx: |
We need a simple way to define a folder as "movies" or "TV" or similar sorta like that .info for I was using with my thetvdb grabber |
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iamlindoro: |
Or yeah, nice idea, .backdrops folder in a folder is the backdrops for that folder |
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GreyFoxx: |
so we can have context sensitive screens |
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iamlindoro: |
or something like that |
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GreyFoxx: |
a screen full of TV screenshots will be 4:3 or 16:9, where as a movie poster is neither |
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GreyFoxx: |
And you'd really only have to refine it once |
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GreyFoxx: |
err define |
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gbee: |
FYI I have a patch which enables the preview generator to be used on videos and DVDs, it needs updating though and extracting from a bunch of unrelated changes, but I might get around to doing that soon |
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gbee: |
from there it would be trivial to allow mythvideo to grab screenshots if no poster etc is available |
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GreyFoxx: |
Maybe it's time for a "mythpreview" binary. Something seperate from the backend heh |
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GreyFoxx: |
something tiny, takes a file, offset and desired size arguments |
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gbee: |
basically split out that small amount of code in the backend |
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GreyFoxx: |
yeah |
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gbee: |
nice idea, I look forward to it ;) |
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GreyFoxx: |
hehe |
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GreyFoxx: |
:) |
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GreyFoxx: |
7 more days of vacation, and most toys are now assembled ;) |
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GreyFoxx: |
Man that fanart stuff really looks nice |
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iamlindoro: |
I hate to be caught up in fanboyism... but man, .22 is really going to be huge. |
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GreyFoxx: |
hehe yeah |
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iamlindoro: |
http://www.fecitfacta.com/MVplay2.png |
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iamlindoro: |
That's a bit better |
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iamlindoro: |
Can't tell from the screenshot but the selected item's underlay is pulsing, it's pretty pleasant |
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** gbee wipes a tear of pride from his eye ** |
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iamlindoro: |
I for one hail our new MythUI masters |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
Here Here! |
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iamlindoro: |
a lot of things start to click when you start poking at them, There's a lot of stuff you just never realized MythUI could *do* until you start trying to do them |
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GreyFoxx: |
the underlay pulses? hahah neat |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
iamlindoro: I've got FC9 on the test box... working on updating it now and pulling down MythTV trunk... |
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iamlindoro: |
J-e-f-f-A, fun fun |
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iamlindoro: |
GreyFoxx, yeah, it's nice |
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poodyp: |
can you do overlays onto live video? |
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iamlindoro: |
GreyFoxx, the one surrounding the selected item, that is |
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iamlindoro: |
poodyp, Not sure what you have in mind, but MythUI conversion of OSD is in progress, which more or less is exactly that |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
ooh, total download size 324MB... good thing I've got FiOS!!! ;-) |
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poodyp: |
OSD sounds good |
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iamlindoro: |
I have some sexy ideas for the OSD once that's fair game, actually |
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iamlindoro: |
Speaking of tears of pride... |
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** iamlindoro plays a trailer from one of his movies ** |
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GreyFoxx: |
http://www.phaze.org/mythtv/pics/video_gallery.png That just looks boring now ;) |
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poodyp: |
basically what I'm looking for is my current cable box *spit* has a button that brings up a little bar across the bottom of the screen for all the different menus |
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iamlindoro: |
I love my little baby feature |
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iamlindoro: |
poodyp, The MythUI idea is, more or less "any widget, anywhere." |
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iamlindoro: |
so something like that would be at the discretion of the themer but should be possible |
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poodyp: |
that's exciting |
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iamlindoro: |
I *do* honestly believe that the community owes gbee a case of his favorite beer when it's all said and done, I'll happily pitch in and pay the shipping |
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iamlindoro: |
GreyFoxx, ewwwwww, that old thing? ;) |
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GreyFoxx: |
Really I gotta know... does anyone use GANT ? |
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poodyp: |
personally I wouldn't mind never seeing http://mythtv.org/mythimages/bluetvmenu.png again |
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GreyFoxx: |
It's just so ugly and the default |
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GreyFoxx: |
We just need newer screenshots up there :) |
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GreyFoxx: |
those are ancient :) |
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waxhead: |
GreyFoxx: I did for quite a while, but that's because it's the default... |
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** J-e-f-f-A uses MythCenter ;-) ** |
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waxhead: |
mostly because I don't muck about with things when they first setup... |
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waxhead: |
I'm running the black themed one at the moment... |
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GreyFoxx: |
waxhead: Exactly... and think of all the users doing the same :) |
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waxhead: |
GreyFoxx: it's not the prettiest theme, and I don't think it does myth tv any favours.. |
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waxhead: |
when you look at the MS mediacentre, out of the box it looks nice enough... |
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waxhead: |
I get plenty enough greif over using linux/myth combo from the windows crowd... |
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waxhead: |
I really like some of the images I've seen of late... very impressive... |
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** GreyFoxx does another svn up an watches his slaves compile ** |
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poodyp: |
seeing MythUI makes me want to make a mouse friendly UI |
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sutula: |
Is there a good channel to talk to people about recovering deleted files, or is there anyone here who might be willing to answer a question or two about searching a raw disk for mp3 files? |
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poodyp: |
I did that once |
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sutula: |
If I've lost all the directory/file structure information, but know that a file starts in block x, is there anything in block x that lets you know that the next block of this file is block y? |
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sutula: |
(this is ext3) |
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poodyp: |
I think I used PhotoRec to recover the entire drive then searched for the mp3 metadata because the filenames were gone |
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poodyp: |
http://www.linux.com/articles/56588 |
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sutula: |
For my disk, photorec was retrieving .mp3 files, but they were all garbled...hence the question |
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poodyp: |
ah |
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poodyp: |
that sucks |
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poodyp: |
no idea there |
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sutula: |
poodyp: Thanks for the pointer...I'll read it, perhaps write to Christophe, or just dive into the source |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
humm... The download of the updates was much faster than the install... ;-) |
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wolfspirit: |
is there a way to access your live tv recordings from within mythtv (ie. something you didn't schedule) without having to manually open up the file in an external player? |
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GreyFoxx: |
Go to Watch recordings, hit Menu |
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GreyFoxx: |
change the group filter either to all programs or to LiveTV |
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wolfspirit: |
nice |
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wolfspirit: |
GreyFoxx: thank you |
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wolfspirit: |
GreyFoxx: those are set to be deleted as space runs out by default correct? |
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iamlindoro: |
or after 24 hous |
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iamlindoro: |
hours |
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iamlindoro: |
whichever comes first |
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iamlindoro: |
extremely short clips are immediately expired |
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wolfspirit: |
nice.. my wife was about to throw something at me because I changed the channel on house and she didn't watch it yet :) |
| [03:15:06] |
iamlindoro: |
you can convert them to actual recordings too, just bring up the menu and change its playback group |
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J-e-f-f-A: |
wolfspirit: It was a rerun anyways... ;-) |
| [03:15:30] |
wolfspirit: |
J-e-f-f-A: we haven't been following it lately |
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wolfspirit: |
iamlindoro: will it then be outside of the ones deleted to save space? |
| [03:16:19] |
iamlindoro: |
yes |
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iamlindoro: |
(well, it'll still be expire eligible, but no moreso than your normal recordings) |
| [03:16:54] |
iamlindoro: |
it won't disappear after 24 hours like LiveTV, it will behave just as any scheduled recording |
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wolfspirit: |
iamlindoro: you know what's odd, since we're on this topic... the other day my drive hit 100% I didn't think that was possible |
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wolfspirit: |
I could have sworn there was a setting that said never go below 3% |
| [03:18:18] |
iamlindoro: |
Depends on what caused it to go to 100% |
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wolfspirit: |
that drive is only for mythtv recordings |
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iamlindoro: |
If it's a recording that maxes out the drive and you have things set up properly, it shoudl expire the oldest expire-eligible recording |
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Sedorox: |
anyone know what would cause one PVR-150 to tune/change channels.. but not another? |
| [03:19:12] |
iamlindoro: |
But if you have everything set not to expire by default, then myth will happily fill the drive |
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wolfspirit: |
weird |
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wolfspirit: |
the livetv recording looks fine in the small preview but everyone is green when I play it.. and the osd for fast forwarding is brown instead of blue |
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iamlindoro: |
GPU and version of myth? |
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wolfspirit: |
0.21-fixes on ubuntu 8.10 and an nvidia 9600 gt if I play the file outside of myth it's fine and when I watched it on live tv it was fine |
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iamlindoro: |
restarting the frontend help? |
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wolfspirit: |
nope |
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iamlindoro: |
you physically restarted the box? |
| [03:32:57] |
wolfspirit: |
no |
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wolfspirit: |
watching it outside of mythtv is fine |
| [03:33:16] |
wolfspirit: |
the frontend and backend are on the same box |
| [03:33:24] |
iamlindoro: |
That doesn't necessarily mean anything, you should still restart the box |
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waxhead: |
wolfspirit: so it's not a cable issue then? |
| [03:33:36] |
iamlindoro: |
for troubleshooting purposes at the very least |
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wolfspirit: |
no |
| [03:33:51] |
** waxhead had a component cable that wans't plugged in right and it would lose colours ** |
| [03:34:20] |
waxhead: |
I'd lose blue I think it was, and it made everything look terrible... |
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wolfspirit: |
weird.. live tv is doing it now too |
| [03:36:06] |
wolfspirit: |
I guess I'll reboot.. this is strange heh |
| [03:36:21] |
wolfspirit: |
I checked the cable it's fine |
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wolfspirit: |
hmmm a xvid video file works fine |
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** wolfspirit is puzzled a reboot fixed it ** |
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brownslug4: |
i dont have a soundcard installed yet, so I have to use the '-ao alsa' argument when playing one of my avi files with mplayer. 'Internal -ao alsa' wouldnt work in the avi file association command field. what can i do? |
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iamlindoro: |
Internal isn't mplayer |
| [03:48:42] |
iamlindoro: |
it's a totally different player and doesn't take mplayer arguments |
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brownslug4: |
alright |
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brownslug4: |
so is there anything i can put in that command line to turn off the alsa sound |
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