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| [00:47:35] | academy: | When changing channel, it takes about 5–10 seconds for to get a Lock on DVB-s (LAMC). Should it take this long? |
| [00:48:08] | academy: | This is before the buffering that mythtv does; I don't care about that. Does quicktune work on dvb-s? |
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| [01:40:08] | academy: | Should I see the individual L->LA->LAM->LAMc->LAMC stages? It takes 5–10 seconds for my dvb-s card to get a lock. |
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| [01:58:25] | tanderson: | anyone have experience with cable setups for comcastt in south jersey? |
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| [02:07:36] | feld: | anyone have any recommendations for any OTA cards to use with mythtv? |
| [02:09:09] | tommost: | I second that question. HD cards, specifically. |
| [02:09:22] | feld: | i'm dropping cable; they want like $85/mo now |
| [02:09:24] | feld: | for BASIC |
| [02:09:27] | feld: | rediculous |
| [02:09:33] | feld: | *ridiculous |
| [02:09:41] | tommost: | Ouch. |
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| [02:16:31] | feld: | tommost: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/PcHDTV_HD-3000 |
| [02:16:39] | feld: | ^^ that at least has a Tux logo on the card hehe |
| [02:17:38] | tommost: | Yeah, I was looking at those cards. They're on the HD 5500 now, though. |
| [02:21:32] | tanderson: | tommost, feld: I'd recommend the HD-5500. Only thing is that if you're right on the border for signal, you might have a few problems |
| [02:22:11] | tommost: | Hmm... that's a worry for me. Does, say, the HDHomeRun do any better there? |
| [02:22:55] | tanderson: | I don't know, I've only used HD-5500's. |
| [02:23:14] | tanderson: | I also have a Empia PCTV HD Pro usb stick that just got support in 2.6.27 |
| [02:23:20] | tanderson: | er, 2.6.28 |
| [02:24:20] | feld: | tanderson: usb stick? |
| [02:24:30] | feld: | got its own antenna internally and everything? |
| [02:25:12] | tanderson: | feld: no, you can plug a coax cable into one end of it |
| [02:25:13] | tommost: | Like this one? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Pinnacle . . . ro_USB_Stick I have one of these, but I've never been able to get it to work. |
| [02:25:14] | feld: | (was going to ask how necessary it is for an external antenna... like how badly do i need something going outside the building — could i put a small one on the back of the card or something?) |
| [02:25:36] | tanderson: | tommost: neither could I, until I used yesterday's released 2.6.28 |
| [02:25:41] | academy: | Does anyone here use mythtv for dvb-s? |
| [02:25:55] | feld: | i use 2.6.28 as well |
| [02:26:11] | tanderson: | tommost: and yes, that's the stick I mean |
| [02:28:22] | tommost: | Hmm... I've been using Ubuntu; I'm not sure that I want to go Gentoo just to get that thing to work. Do you get good reception with it? |
| [02:28:39] | feld: | tommost: why would you have to go to Gentoo? |
| [02:29:34] | tommost: | I wouldn't want to mess with the weird initramfs stuff, and if I mess up Gentoo I know lots of people I could ask about it. |
| [02:29:46] | feld: | tommost: it's not hard at all... it's as simple as this |
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| [02:31:33] | feld: | cd /usr/src/ && wget http://kernel.org/blah/2.6.28.tar.bz2 && sudo tar -xjvpf kernel.2.6.28.tar.bz2 && cd 2.6.28 && cp /boot/config-2.6.whatever .oldconfig && sudo make oldconfig && sudo make && sudo make modules && sudo make modules_install && sudo make install && sudo update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.28 && sudo update-grub && reboot |
| [02:31:45] | feld: | :P |
| [02:31:57] | tommost: | I hope you didn't just type that all up. :p |
| [02:32:07] | feld: | you would really have to try hard to break your debian/ubuntu install |
| [02:32:11] | feld: | tommost: i did... sadly |
| [02:33:58] | tommost: | Heh, that isn't so bad. I've dealt with a Debian system with the kernel set up the Gentoo way (by a Gentoo user) and it's been... odd. (The CF card that keeps corrupting doesn't help.) |
| [02:34:38] | feld: | ouch |
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| [02:35:29] | tommost: | Indeed. :) To make it worse, this was inflicted on a Debian stable install to get some hardware working. Not so stable any more. |
| [02:35:41] | feld: | yikes heh |
| [02:37:03] | feld: | i have a pvr-250 and a pvr-150 i want to sell — anyone know anyone looking for them? |
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| [02:37:11] | feld: | real cheap... work fine, just have no use anymore |
| [02:37:22] | tanderson: | tommost: why would you have to go to gentoo to get it? |
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| [02:38:15] | tommost: | tanderson: Scroll up a bit. We've settled on me being wrong. :p |
| [02:38:58] | tanderson: | aah, ok |
| [02:39:15] | tanderson: | not that'd I'd have a problem with you switching to gentoo (see cloak) =) |
| [02:40:13] | tommost: | I am valiantly resisting, but it will probably happen in time. ;) |
| [02:41:19] | feld: | i ran gentoo for years |
| [02:41:31] | feld: | kinda gave up on it as the quality fell significantly |
| [02:41:43] | feld: | lots of people seemed to leave the project and things started falling apart :( |
| [02:41:45] | tanderson: | I noticed that right after I started using it |
| [02:41:50] | feld: | it will always have a special place in my heart though :) |
| [02:42:00] | tanderson: | It has gotten better I think |
| [02:42:10] | feld: | honestly, Gentoo teaches you how to fix stuff that people who use other distros will just scratch their heads over |
| [02:43:16] | tanderson: | well, some things have gotten better. the official kde packages aren't all that great. |
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| [03:02:23] | anenigma_: | is there a way to get mythvideo to actually browse the filesystem one folder at a time? i know of, and use, the "newly added files browsable by default" thing, but it seems that mythvideo still scans the whole FS structure when starting. what i want is when mythvideo starts, it should only scan the current directory for folders and filmclips, and then when i navigate into a folder it should scan that folder |
| [03:02:41] | GreyFoxx: | nope |
| [03:02:52] | GreyFoxx: | it reads it once when you go in and that's it |
| [03:02:52] | wagnerrp: | just stop adding videos to your active mythvideo |
| [03:03:01] | GreyFoxx: | it's not "live" filesystem browsing |
| [03:03:38] | tommost: | Why doesn't Myth use inotify? |
| [03:03:58] | GreyFoxx: | why don't I have hot chocolate in my mug? |
| [03:04:04] | GreyFoxx: | Cause you havn't made it yet |
| [03:04:11] | wagnerrp: | because mythvideo is not intended to be run on the file system |
| [03:04:25] | tommost: | kk |
| [03:04:32] | GreyFoxx: | there is not "we have chosen not to do this" reason |
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| [03:04:38] | GreyFoxx: | It just doesn't :) |
| [03:04:46] | wagnerrp: | its intended to pre-scan the folder, grab or write metadata info, and then display the database |
| [03:04:53] | anenigma_: | is there anything like live filesystem browsing planned/in the works? |
| [03:04:55] | tommost: | Yeah, I didn't mean it that way. :) |
| [03:05:24] | wagnerrp: | its more, 'no one who is actually willing to code for myth has any desire to use mythvideo in that manner' |
| [03:05:37] | GreyFoxx: | anenigma_: It's been spoken about, but I don't think any code has been put to it |
| [03:05:42] | anenigma_: | fair enough |
| [03:06:22] | wagnerrp: | by and large, mythtv is written for how the devs want to use it |
| [03:06:25] | anenigma_: | i'm still tossing up that idea, i've currently been "fixing up" the current mythtv client implementation in xbmc, but i'll wait and see how the gsoc xbmc-mythtv thingo goes first before i start reinventing the wheel i think |
| [03:06:26] | GreyFoxx: | man I have so many toys to put together I don't know where to start :) |
| [03:07:14] | GreyFoxx: | One of them came with a software CD that's blank :) |
| [03:07:25] | wagnerrp: | ? |
| [03:07:52] | GreyFoxx: | I put the CD into the PC to install the software for the thing and it's blank, the PC offers to burn content to it :) |
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| [03:08:02] | wagnerrp: | what device? |
| [03:08:11] | GreyFoxx: | It's a net connected Smart Globe |
| [03:08:34] | tommost: | I thought you meant that as a metaphor initially. :) |
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| [03:09:00] | GreyFoxx: | I need the software to configure the thing, especially yhe default language which is currently set to French :) |
| [03:09:30] | anenigma_: | i got some really odd USB devices for christmas. i got a USB numpad (fair enough), USB light+fan combo (fair enough) and a USB ... vibrating hand? wtf? |
| [03:10:05] | wagnerrp: | sounds... explicit' |
| [03:10:32] | anenigma_: | yeah, cept it's way too small to be explicit, unless you're a midget ;) |
| [03:10:57] | GreyFoxx: | nice, looks like their webserver was hacked which is why I can't download the software for now hehe |
| [03:13:51] | wagnerrp: | i saw some 'the smoking gun' tv show earlier tonight |
| [03:14:01] | wagnerrp: | on the worlds dumbest employees |
| [03:14:34] | wagnerrp: | guy came in to rob a liquor store, realized his gun wasnt loaded, so left to go load it |
| [03:15:19] | wagnerrp: | security guard called police, didnt know what the address was, and when the guy came back in and started shooting at the other employees, he ran out the door and hid in the dumpster |
| [03:16:14] | anenigma_: | http://www.strudel-hound.com/hand.jpg <-- my vibrating USB-powered hand |
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| [03:23:48] | DurtDiggler_: | I installed mythdora a while back and remember having some kinda trouble installing on a raid array |
| [03:24:10] | DurtDiggler_: | I don't want to repeat myself this time |
| [03:24:19] | DurtDiggler_: | is there some problem with installing into raid |
| [03:24:31] | DurtDiggler_: | I thought it was something with the linux distro itself |
| [03:24:41] | wagnerrp: | a file system on a raid array is no different than any other file system |
| [03:25:41] | DurtDiggler_: | well I know there was some issue |
| [03:25:47] | DurtDiggler_: | drivers or something |
| [03:26:18] | wagnerrp: | mythtv has no issue with RAID |
| [03:26:33] | wagnerrp: | my guess is that something else was just misconfigured, and the whole system was hosed |
| [03:29:26] | DurtDiggler_: | I remember it wouldn't even install |
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| [03:30:07] | wagnerrp: | to be honest, theres no reason to install myth on a raid-backed FS |
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| [03:30:25] | DurtDiggler_: | I'm trying to remember how the whole system works |
| [03:30:33] | DurtDiggler_: | does the backend need to be fast |
| [03:30:48] | wagnerrp: | usually, you want recordings to be on dedicated disks, so you stick those on the array |
| [03:31:08] | wagnerrp: | and leave OS files on a smaller disk |
| [03:31:17] | DurtDiggler_: | I guess not if the well I have a file server |
| [03:31:24] | wagnerrp: | that depends entirely on what you want to do |
| [03:31:56] | wagnerrp: | software raid servers need to be fast, hardware raid not so much |
| [03:32:13] | wagnerrp: | framegrabbers need to be fast, mpeg encoders and digital cards not so much |
| [03:32:26] | DurtDiggler_: | so it wouldn't hurt to have the OS of the backend on a raid1? |
| [03:33:03] | wagnerrp: | transcodes and comm flags must run in a jobqueue, whether thats on the backend or on a separate jobqueue running on the frontend |
| [03:33:19] | wagnerrp: | it wouldnt hurt, no |
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| [03:34:01] | anenigma_: | wagnerrp: the way i use RAID is bad, i think :) I just have 1 RAID5 device that has 1 partition containing everything, OS and recordings. |
| [03:34:29] | DurtDiggler_: | thats actually what I was probably gonna do |
| [03:35:15] | wagnerrp: | its really best to have recordings on their own FS (if not their own disk) |
| [03:35:33] | wagnerrp: | then you have no worry of them filling the entire disk and trashing the OS |
| [03:35:46] | wagnerrp: | the database in particular does not behave kindly to filled disks |
| [03:35:47] | LanUser: | Hello – is there any benefit to using an optical s/pdif out cable rather than a coaxial out cable from a sound card? |
| [03:36:07] | wagnerrp: | LanUser: not really, theyre both the same bitrate/capabilities |
| [03:36:28] | wagnerrp: | and usually optical digital tends to be made out of cheap plastic fiber, resulting in less range than coax |
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| [03:36:56] | LanUser: | wagnerrp: thanks man |
| [03:38:06] | DurtDiggler_: | is it possible to have recordings go onto a separate file server |
| [03:38:29] | wagnerrp: | can you mount a file system over NFS? |
| [03:38:55] | DurtDiggler_: | I have cifs mounts |
| [03:39:00] | DurtDiggler_: | to my windows FS |
| [03:39:06] | wagnerrp: | that works too, although is a fair bit slower |
| [03:39:29] | DurtDiggler_: | I had this all setup at one time |
| [03:39:35] | DurtDiggler_: | I just forgot how I had it setup |
| [03:39:50] | DurtDiggler_: | I tore the server apart and Im now putting it back together |
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| [03:40:31] | DurtDiggler_: | I was just having problems with my TV card |
| [03:40:44] | DurtDiggler_: | the sound would always be all jacked up |
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| [03:41:15] | DurtDiggler_: | either no sound at all or just a squealing noise |
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| [04:17:30] | d0netsFN: | ok |
| [04:17:34] | d0netsFN: | please someone hold my hand |
| [04:17:42] | d0netsFN: | and help me get mythtv setup |
| [04:17:50] | d0netsFN: | theres like 2394809283409823049 tutorials, not one the same |
| [04:18:21] | wagnerrp: | get as far as you can, ask a question when you get stuck |
| [04:21:05] | d0netsFN: | ok |
| [04:21:08] | d0netsFN: | i installed myth |
| [04:21:12] | d0netsFN: | where do i start? |
| [04:21:17] | d0netsFN: | i run mythtv-setup |
| [04:21:25] | wagnerrp: | not where you start |
| [04:21:38] | wagnerrp: | database must be prepped |
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| [04:21:53] | d0netsFN: | yea |
| [04:21:54] | d0netsFN: | i did that |
| [04:21:54] | wagnerrp: | the process is described in many how-tos |
| [04:22:06] | d0netsFN: | i created mythconverg |
| [04:22:11] | wagnerrp: | well, then run mythtv setup, point it at the database |
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| [04:22:55] | d0netsFN: | where? |
| [04:23:18] | d0netsFN: | there is general, capture card, video source, input connection , channel edit, storage directory |
| [04:23:37] | wagnerrp: | if you see that screen, the default settings were sufficient to connect |
| [04:24:03] | d0netsFN: | so like i said |
| [04:24:05] | d0netsFN: | what do i do now |
| [04:24:11] | d0netsFN: | i added my card |
| [04:24:14] | d0netsFN: | what about video sources |
| [04:24:16] | wagnerrp: | start at 1, work all the way to 6 |
| [04:24:28] | d0netsFN: | lol i am |
| [04:24:43] | d0netsFN: | video source name? |
| [04:24:54] | wagnerrp: | 'cable', 'air', whatever you want |
| [04:25:05] | wagnerrp: | one video source, is one source of content |
| [04:25:07] | wagnerrp: | one lineup |
| [04:25:28] | d0netsFN: | so just satellite? |
| [04:25:40] | d0netsFN: | im using a pvr150 with a directv stb |
| [04:25:44] | wagnerrp: | whatever you want to call it |
| [04:25:48] | d0netsFN: | k |
| [04:25:51] | d0netsFN: | now under that |
| [04:26:00] | wagnerrp: | one source corresponds to one channel lineup |
| [04:26:09] | d0netsFN: | what do you mean one channel lineup |
| [04:26:14] | d0netsFN: | im confused by that, mind elaborating? |
| [04:26:25] | wagnerrp: | list of channels |
| [04:26:34] | d0netsFN: | ok |
| [04:26:39] | d0netsFN: | so i think i just need one |
| [04:26:43] | d0netsFN: | so |
| [04:26:51] | d0netsFN: | under that, listings grabber |
| [04:27:13] | wagnerrp: | based off the time, i assume youre in the US, so your listings grabber would be schedulesdirect |
| [04:27:15] | d0netsFN: | do i do the north american (schedulesdirect.org)(internal) |
| [04:27:32] | d0netsFN: | ok do i need to enter a userid and pass or leave it blank |
| [04:27:38] | wagnerrp: | you need one |
| [04:27:46] | d0netsFN: | ok do i have to go register or what |
| [04:27:51] | wagnerrp: | you can get a free 7-day trial |
| [04:27:53] | d0netsFN: | and do i tick "perform EIT scan" |
| [04:27:57] | wagnerrp: | otherwise, its $20/yr |
| [04:27:57] | d0netsFN: | oh wtf its not free? |
| [04:28:07] | wagnerrp: | EIT data only works with digital sources |
| [04:28:23] | wagnerrp: | and in the US, EIT data may be a little as one day |
| [04:29:02] | wagnerrp: | scrapers are a complete hassle, at least my time and sanity is worth $20/yr |
| [04:29:52] | wagnerrp: | scheduling data used to be free, provided by zap2it, part of TMDS |
| [04:30:05] | wagnerrp: | but it was abused by commercial concerns, so they stopped providing it |
| [04:30:13] | RyeBrye: | How did Boxee place higher than myth on that survey? Maybe at some point it will be nice... but the current alpha is pretty buggy – the point of not being useable |
| [04:30:28] | wagnerrp: | because its flashy |
| [04:30:53] | wagnerrp: | good graphics, whiz-bang features |
| [04:31:22] | wagnerrp: | however it does not compete with mythtv |
| [04:31:43] | d0netsFN: | ok |
| [04:31:45] | d0netsFN: | im registered |
| [04:31:49] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, it's in a different space – the hulu / internet video playback would be nice... if it worked properly |
| [04:32:24] | d0netsFN: | ok what do i select for channel freq. table? |
| [04:34:07] | wagnerrp: | just leave it default |
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| [04:36:38] | d0netsFN: | ok whats next |
| [04:36:48] | wagnerrp: | step 4 |
| [04:37:06] | d0netsFN: | yea i did that |
| [04:37:14] | d0netsFN: | it shows 5 options |
| [04:37:16] | d0netsFN: | i picked tuner 1 |
| [04:37:22] | d0netsFN: | cause i think its referring to the coax on my card |
| [04:37:38] | d0netsFN: | i changd the video source to satellite |
| [04:37:40] | wagnerrp: | the manual on the wiki walks through all settings in detail |
| [04:38:16] | wagnerrp: | if you are capturing satellite, you have the tuner card connected to the svideo outputs on your STB |
| [04:38:22] | wagnerrp: | meaning, not the tuner |
| [04:38:26] | d0netsFN: | oh |
| [04:38:29] | d0netsFN: | i was told i could use coax |
| [04:38:35] | wagnerrp: | you can, you shouldnt |
| [04:38:37] | d0netsFN: | cause i dont have an svid cable atm |
| [04:38:40] | d0netsFN: | right |
| [04:38:46] | d0netsFN: | for tonight i just want to get it working with coax |
| [04:38:47] | wagnerrp: | then use composite |
| [04:39:10] | d0netsFN: | ok so back to input sources, i selected tuner 1 |
| [04:39:15] | d0netsFN: | i changd video source to satellite |
| [04:39:30] | d0netsFN: | external channel command? |
| [04:39:39] | d0netsFN: | preset tuner to channel? |
| [04:39:56] | wagnerrp: | since youre using your STB, you need to set the tuner to channel 3 (or 4) |
| [04:40:01] | d0netsFN: | 3 |
| [04:40:01] | d0netsFN: | yea |
| [04:40:03] | d0netsFN: | i did that too |
| [04:40:03] | wagnerrp: | and use an external IR script |
| [04:40:10] | wagnerrp: | for channel changing |
| [04:40:17] | d0netsFN: | ok i think thats where im stuck |
| [04:40:24] | d0netsFN: | sorry ive started and stopped this process a few times today |
| [04:40:45] | d0netsFN: | i have the pvr150 mce, so i have the irblaster and such |
| [04:40:46] | wagnerrp: | i have no experience with that process |
| [04:41:11] | waxhead_: | Given that I have 2 dual tuner cards in my system, should I bother with the multiplexing setup? |
| [04:41:25] | wagnerrp: | are they digital tuners? |
| [04:41:36] | waxhead_: | wagnerrp: yep |
| [04:42:02] | wagnerrp: | then theres nothing to set up, just let it default to 2, or increase it if you want |
| [04:42:12] | wagnerrp: | you have to do nothing to get it working |
| [04:42:13] | waxhead_: | I get terrible reception and the frontend will crash at times |
| [04:42:54] | wagnerrp: | terrible reception is due to poor antenna alignment, or perhaps poor tuner card |
| [04:43:13] | waxhead_: | wagnerrp: I have 2 Nova-T 500's |
| [04:43:14] | wagnerrp: | and all multiplex recording is completely seamless to the frontend |
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| [05:04:04] | d0netsFN: | anyone have experience with myth and the irblaster stuff (lirc) |
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| [05:45:06] | psm321: | hi everyone |
| [05:45:23] | clever: | hi again:) |
| [05:45:39] | psm321: | can mythtv record from alsa yet? |
| [05:45:57] | psm321: | and if not, are there common workarounds people use for vid cards that have alsa sound modules? |
| [05:46:05] | clever: | not shure, but i had it working thru oss emulation |
| [05:46:15] | psm321: | thats for playback tho right? |
| [05:46:17] | clever: | oss emulation gives a /dev/dsp for each alsa device |
| [05:46:19] | ** d0netsFN slits wrists and gets in a warm bath ** | |
| [05:46:22] | d0netsFN: | this is too complicated |
| [05:46:27] | clever: | it seems to work with recording also |
| [05:46:45] | clever: | i have a frame grabber that i beleive uses it |
| [05:46:53] | clever: | but the card/driver are horid |
| [05:47:24] | clever: | i have to turn line in loopback on to record it, which causes all audio to come out of the speakers in realtime |
| [05:47:34] | psm321: | ouch |
| [05:47:35] | clever: | so i then have to mute the PCM playback channel |
| [05:47:45] | clever: | which pretty much makes it useless for a frontend |
| [05:47:55] | clever: | and theres a constant high pitched freq in the audio |
| [05:48:16] | clever: | but its only a backup slave when i MUST record 2 shows at once |
| [05:48:47] | clever: | and currently im running out of space, so im cutting back to maybe 1–2 recordings/day |
| [05:49:05] | clever: | hard to get conflicts when you have 12+ hours between each recording |
| [05:49:14] | psm321: | clever: i'm getting the high freq in one of my cards already just with alsa |
| [05:49:40] | clever: | it could be a driver/hardware problem on the alsa side, before the oss emulation, if we have the same problem |
| [05:52:02] | clever: | none of the common sense things worked to even get recording to work |
| [05:52:02] | clever: | so i treated alsamixer like a combination lock, and tried every posible combination of every switch |
| [05:52:33] | psm321: | i've had similar problems |
| [05:52:49] | clever: | ive only had that much trouble with that 1 card |
| [05:53:00] | psm321: | what card |
| [05:53:03] | clever: | it appears to also have suround sound output |
| [05:54:03] | clever: | 00:07.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! Game Port (rev 0a) |
| [05:54:05] | clever: | 00:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) |
| [05:54:16] | clever: | that thing |
| [05:54:24] | psm321: | oh |
| [05:54:34] | d0netsFN: | either of you familiar with the irblasters and lircd and mythtv? |
| [05:54:41] | psm321: | i'm actually using cards that have alsa modules for themselves |
| [05:54:59] | psm321: | d0netsFN: i've never done it but i looked into it a few years ago |
| [05:55:03] | clever: | psm321: i forget what module i actualy used, and the system is off atm |
| [05:55:12] | d0netsFN: | wtf do i do? |
| [05:55:24] | d0netsFN: | when i do irw to test it |
| [05:55:25] | d0netsFN: | i get nada |
| [05:55:32] | d0netsFN: | i have the pvr150 mce |
| [05:55:36] | d0netsFN: | (rc6 remote) |
| [05:56:07] | psm321: | wait are you trying to blast or receive? |
| [05:56:25] | d0netsFN: | blast |
| [05:56:27] | d0netsFN: | i think |
| [05:56:32] | d0netsFN: | i have directv |
| [05:56:33] | clever: | i could never get my pvr150 to blast |
| [05:56:46] | clever: | and lately, i cant even get it to receive |
| [05:57:12] | d0netsFN: | son of a cokewhore |
| [05:57:16] | clever: | i just built a serial blaster and got it working |
| [05:57:29] | d0netsFN: | im leaving for my snowboarding trip in a few days |
| [05:57:30] | d0netsFN: | no time |
| [05:57:46] | clever: | been there |
| [05:58:03] | clever: | i usualy just cancle everything that isnt on channel x, then manualy tune it there |
| [05:58:20] | d0netsFN: | explain |
| [05:58:21] | d0netsFN: | im nub |
| [05:58:33] | clever: | for example, pick a channel like 45, and cancle everything else |
| [05:58:35] | d0netsFN: | i mean should my mythtv be working still even though i dont have the ir stuff setup? |
| [05:58:38] | clever: | and manualy tune the box to 45 |
| [05:58:40] | d0netsFN: | how do i pick a channel? |
| [05:59:10] | clever: | look over the upcoming recordings, and DECIDE which channel is most important |
| [05:59:43] | d0netsFN: | lol |
| [05:59:53] | d0netsFN: | dude i dont know what you mean |
| [05:59:57] | d0netsFN: | i havent gotten mythtv working yet |
| [06:00:17] | clever: | ahh |
| [06:00:17] | clever: | then you wont exactly loose anything if you just drop it and finish after the snow boarding trip |
| [06:00:41] | wagnerrp: | clever: he doesnt have a 150 blaster, he has an MCE blaster |
| [06:01:03] | clever: | ahhh |
| [06:01:07] | clever: | never used it |
| [06:01:09] | d0netsFN: | i got it for my trip |
| [06:01:15] | d0netsFN: | i want to record my stuff and stream it |
| [06:01:24] | wagnerrp: | no... but supposedly it works pretty well |
| [06:01:28] | d0netsFN: | while im gone |
| [06:02:06] | wagnerrp: | dont expect too much by your ability to stream it |
| [06:02:23] | wagnerrp: | how much bandwidth do you have? |
| [06:03:12] | psm321: | clever: what mixer program do you use for oss? |
| [06:03:33] | d0netsFN: | wagnerrp well its DSL |
| [06:03:57] | wagnerrp: | so you could have anywhere from 64k to several Mbps upload |
| [06:04:04] | d0netsFN: | right |
| [06:04:12] | d0netsFN: | here |
| [06:04:34] | wagnerrp: | you dont know how much bandwidth you pay for? |
| [06:05:08] | clever: | i just use the alsa based mixers |
| [06:05:11] | d0netsFN: | Download Speed: 10587 kbps (1323.4 KB/sec transfer rate) |
| [06:05:11] | d0netsFN: | Upload Speed: 760 kbps (95 KB/sec transfer rate) |
| [06:05:17] | d0netsFN: | wagnerrp its moms DSL |
| [06:05:27] | d0netsFN: | i was using my hacked modem till she switched to directv and DSL |
| [06:05:28] | clever: | the /dev/mixer i use is oss emulation, which just passes the things on to the alsamixers |
| [06:05:33] | psm321: | clever: how do you tell which dsp goes with which card |
| [06:05:40] | clever: | psm321: trial&error :P |
| [06:06:05] | clever: | i have since made a script with rmmod and modprobe, to load the 2 drivers in a certain order |
| [06:06:12] | clever: | so the names dont change |
| [06:06:19] | wagnerrp: | well 1mbps will give you marginal quality with the flash streamer |
| [06:06:26] | d0netsFN: | i was getting this |
| [06:06:27] | d0netsFN: | [Download Speed: 30536 kbps (3817 KB/sec transfer rate) |
| [06:06:27] | d0netsFN: | Upload Speed: 4166 kbps (520.8 KB/sec transfer rate)] |
| [06:06:51] | wagnerrp: | 4mbps will look pretty good for SD |
| [06:07:11] | clever: | my recordings are generaly 300kbyte/sec |
| [06:07:20] | wagnerrp: | should look about as good as the PVRs dump |
| [06:07:22] | clever: | which is still 6 times my upload |
| [06:07:26] | d0netsFN: | but still |
| [06:07:33] | d0netsFN: | for now i just want to get the damn thing workin |
| [06:07:33] | clever: | and 2 times my download |
| [06:08:23] | wagnerrp: | for now, nevermind the script |
| [06:08:30] | wagnerrp: | just make a blank file |
| [06:08:36] | wagnerrp: | get everything else working |
| [06:08:41] | wagnerrp: | you can get channel changing working later |
| [06:08:59] | d0netsFN: | right |
| [06:09:03] | d0netsFN: | thats what im doing for now |
| [06:09:08] | d0netsFN: | i just want to get everything else working |
| [06:11:26] | wagnerrp: | well then give myth a directory (6), make sure permissions are correct, start the backend, start the frontend |
| [06:13:30] | d0netsFN: | hrmm |
| [06:14:21] | d0netsFN: | explain the permissions |
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| [06:16:16] | d0netsFN: | QServerSocket: failed to bind or listen to the socket |
| [06:16:16] | d0netsFN: | 2008-12–26 00:15:57.048 Failed to bind port 6543. Exiting. |
| [06:16:19] | [R]: | does $HOME/.mythtv/themes not work? |
| [06:16:20] | d0netsFN: | i get that when i run mythbackend |
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| [06:18:27] | Anduin: | d0netsFN: assuming it isn't some security layer, it usually means you already have mythbackend running |
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| [06:19:42] | d0netsFN: | it worked fine earlier |
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| [06:19:59] | d0netsFN: | i turned my firewall off and i did killall mythbackend but it isnt running |
| [06:21:58] | d0netsFN: | OH FUCK ITS ALIVE! |
| [06:22:01] | d0netsFN: | sorta |
| [06:22:04] | wagnerrp: | you fail to bind if something else is already bound, or if the previous program bound was not cleanly exited and the OS hasnt yet swept the system |
| [06:22:06] | d0netsFN: | i see ants and hear audio |
| [06:22:21] | d0netsFN: | when i did watchtv in the frontend |
| [06:23:15] | d0netsFN: | so now what |
| [06:23:41] | wagnerrp: | see ants? |
| [06:24:21] | d0netsFN: | yea |
| [06:24:22] | d0netsFN: | static |
| [06:24:34] | wagnerrp: | well they say static |
| [06:24:51] | d0netsFN: | sorry ive always called it ants |
| [06:25:02] | wagnerrp: | anyway, chances are the tuner is not tuned properly |
| [06:25:18] | wagnerrp: | or the STB is not outputting properly |
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| [06:25:28] | wagnerrp: | check the tuner (plug it directly into the tv) |
| [06:25:34] | wagnerrp: | err... STB |
| [06:25:51] | wagnerrp: | check the tuner, manually set the channel using the ivtv tools |
| [06:26:02] | wagnerrp: | and then cat /dev/video0 to a file, open the file and see what it contains |
| [06:27:02] | Anduin: | I didn't read the scrollback but from STB you are probably using s-video or composite which should mean no static (so maybe wrong input) |
| [06:27:39] | wagnerrp: | no, hes in-advisably using rf |
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| [06:30:33] | d0netsFN: | i will go grab an svideo cable tomorrow |
| [06:30:45] | d0netsFN: | im just trying to get it working and get to know the setup process witht he coax tonight |
| [06:30:49] | wagnerrp: | you have no RCA cables? |
| [06:31:13] | d0netsFN: | i might but they are in a closet in a room that guests are sleeping in |
| [06:31:31] | wagnerrp: | coat hanger? |
| [06:31:49] | d0netsFN: | huh? |
| [06:31:58] | wagnerrp: | you have any metal coat hangers |
| [06:32:15] | d0netsFN: | lol yea, in the same closet |
| [06:32:49] | wagnerrp: | i mean it would obviously not be ideal |
| [06:32:55] | wagnerrp: | and you wouldnt want it to touch anything |
| [06:33:02] | wagnerrp: | but its about the right size |
| [06:33:37] | wagnerrp: | and over short range, youre not going to pick up considerable noise |
| [06:33:47] | wagnerrp: | it wont look nice, but it will work for testing |
| [06:34:31] | d0netsFN: | hey cool i got it working |
| [06:34:45] | d0netsFN: | i think i understand, i didnt know why i couldnt get my channels |
| [06:35:08] | d0netsFN: | well it picked up like 1–4 and a couple others |
| [06:35:23] | d0netsFN: | i hit watch tv |
| [06:35:26] | d0netsFN: | and changed to channel 3 |
| [06:35:32] | d0netsFN: | now i can change the chan on the STB |
| [06:35:34] | d0netsFN: | manually |
| [06:38:53] | d0netsFN: | so |
| [06:39:02] | d0netsFN: | now to get the mce remote working |
| [06:39:21] | d0netsFN: | how do i view my STB's guide in mythtv and set recordings? |
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| [06:40:46] | Anduin: | setup whichever lirc module for your remote, and get guide data appropriate for your location (the STB guide data can not be used) |
| [06:46:33] | d0netsFN: | damn im never gonna get anything done now |
| [06:46:41] | d0netsFN: | and im never going to leave this seat |
| [06:46:50] | d0netsFN: | pc and tv in the same spot |
| [06:46:56] | wagnerrp: | you dont view your STB's guide data |
| [06:47:17] | wagnerrp: | sure, you can open up the menu, and view it, just as if you were watching it on tv |
| [06:47:24] | wagnerrp: | but its of no use to mythtv |
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| [06:48:35] | d0netsFN: | right |
| [06:48:41] | d0netsFN: | im still confused on how all that works |
| [06:49:14] | wagnerrp: | youve watched tv through the stb, right? |
| [06:49:47] | d0netsFN: | yea |
| [06:49:49] | d0netsFN: | i know |
| [06:49:51] | d0netsFN: | it has a guide for it |
| [06:50:00] | d0netsFN: | i can pull it up right now with my regular direct tv remote |
| [06:50:08] | wagnerrp: | same thing, mythtv is now recording what you would have otherwise viewed on the tv |
| [06:50:13] | d0netsFN: | you are saying its irrelevant |
| [06:50:18] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [06:50:35] | wagnerrp: | unless you want to write an OCR program to run a scan on the video feed |
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| [06:50:59] | wagnerrp: | along with a proper IR script to sweep through the guide |
| [06:55:01] | wagnerrp: | ugh... i just started a file system scrub, it is not happy |
| [06:55:24] | wagnerrp: | although i do admit, its fairly impressive to see it running checksums on my files at a sustained 240MB/s |
| [06:58:22] | d0netsFN: | ok im back, i smoked a bowl for the terrific progress |
| [06:59:08] | wagnerrp: | well thats encouraging.... |
| [06:59:27] | d0netsFN: | haha |
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| [07:00:08] | wagnerrp: | for future reference, when you are seeking help, it is not good to advertise that you just toked up |
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| [07:02:16] | LiNERROR: | wagnerrp: seconded |
| [07:03:09] | d0netsFN: | i forget this is freenode |
| [07:03:16] | d0netsFN: | sorry |
| [07:03:43] | d0netsFN: | i run #android on efnet |
| [07:03:46] | d0netsFN: | my nick is St0ned |
| [07:05:01] | wagnerrp: | its got nothing to do with the irc server, rather thats something you dont use as an opener when seeking help for anything but trying to fashion a bong out of an apple |
| [07:06:19] | wagnerrp: | people arent going to appreciate that the person on the other end is now motivationally impaired |
| [07:07:07] | d0netsFN: | it wasnt an opener |
| [07:07:14] | d0netsFN: | i wasnt saying "im high, help me" |
| [07:07:41] | d0netsFN: | i got something to work, i said i celebrated |
| [07:20:20] | Dagmar: | Pretty much |
| [07:21:05] | Dagmar: | Hmm... It also might be the reason I've got whoever the heck you were talking to in the ignore list. |
| [07:24:15] | d0netsFN: | lol |
| [07:24:24] | Gumby: | d0netsFN: I'm running android on my touch |
| [07:24:44] | d0netsFN: | nice, any word on getting the market functional? |
| [07:25:26] | d0netsFN: | i know that guy from .nz was working on it and he has taken on the kaiser as well |
| [07:25:29] | Gumby: | not sure. Im not a developer thats working on it, just an end user. but I noticed that there was an image available that has the market included in it but its not functional |
| [07:25:59] | d0netsFN: | yea i know |
| [07:26:55] | Gumby: | it will be great once they figure it all out and if they decide to make a rom of it instead of just running the app in an emu |
| [07:29:07] | Gumby: | brb |
| [07:29:13] | d0netsFN: | yea |
| [07:29:16] | d0netsFN: | soon |
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| [08:21:45] | d0netsFN: | you gotta be shitting me |
| [08:22:24] | d0netsFN: | i was just mashing buttons on this remote to test something, and it turned my 360 on |
| [08:22:43] | d0netsFN: | oh the power button, haha |
| [08:26:17] | clever: | lol |
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| [12:26:58] | dustybin: | ever since i put a 2nd tuner in my box, im getting lots of errors in dmesg and 'B' recordings |
| [12:27:37] | dustybin: | mt2060 I2C read failed / mt2060 I2C write failed / Unknown remote controller key: |
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| [12:29:09] | fdlinux: | hi |
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| [12:30:01] | fdlinux: | anybody here that can help with a /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakeup problem ? |
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| [12:34:05] | fdlinux: | anyone , i can't echo the file for writing the time |
| [12:36:21] | fdlinux: | is there nobody here? |
| [12:38:26] | laga: | try asking a real question ;) |
| [12:43:49] | fdlinux: | i have mythtv , and can put my system in stanby with s2ram , but i also want to wake it up at specific time . but i can't write to /sys/class/rtc0/rtc/wakeup , even as root |
| [12:44:57] | laga: | what's the error message? |
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| [13:16:27] | fdlinux: | error is access denied |
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| [13:29:14] | olejl: | I have not been able to compile plugins trunk for some time. Is this something that is known? Get alot of these:videofilter.cpp:420: error: ‘UIUtilE’ has not been declared |
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| [13:57:26] | fdlinux: | anybody know what to do ? |
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| [14:25:02] | fdlinux: | anybody know how to overwrite this : echo 0 > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm |
| [14:25:02] | fdlinux: | -bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument |
| [14:27:18] | laga: | is the module loaded? |
| [14:29:24] | fdlinux: | mce:~ # lsmod |grep rtc |
| [14:29:24] | fdlinux: | rtc_cmos 27168 0 |
| [14:29:24] | fdlinux: | rtc_core 37148 1 rtc_cmos |
| [14:29:24] | fdlinux: | rtc_lib 19328 1 rtc_core |
| [14:29:44] | fdlinux: | think that are the right modules |
| [14:32:44] | fdlinux: | ? |
| [14:33:19] | laga: | i think the official wiki has a guide |
| [14:33:49] | fdlinux: | in other words , you don't know either , thx anyway |
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| [14:50:36] | academy: | Is it possible to just build mythfrontend rather than the whole of mythtv? This is just for on my frontend |
| [14:51:18] | laga: | it's not officially supported. don't do it :) |
| [14:52:55] | academy: | laga: so I have to install the whole backend on my frontend? |
| [14:53:08] | laga: | it's just a couple of megs |
| [14:53:19] | academy: | laga: oh ok – I should have checked |
| [14:53:24] | academy: | thanks |
| [14:53:31] | jamesd: | academy, if you learn enough about the process its doable.. but in the end best start the build.. go make breakfast.. have some fun with the wife and perhaps help little johny assemble his christmas toys... and if it aint done yet.. start on the your S.O.'s todo list |
| [14:54:44] | academy: | ok |
| [14:54:51] | laga: | jamesd: you're a wise man |
| [14:56:58] | jamesd: | of course i have to mention that a wife's todo is never completely fininshed.. its near impossible unless you hire a team of 60 experts... |
| [15:15:09] | fdlinux: | nobody know how to solve this : mce:~ # echo -n "12345" > /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/wakealarm |
| [15:15:09] | fdlinux: | -bash: echo: write error: Invalid argumen |
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| [16:07:44] | academy: | exit |
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| [16:44:34] | stegel: | hello all, i just installed a pinnacle 800i and am trying to setup the dvb support for my card...when i do a dvb-tools scan i get the following error "FATAL: failed to open /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0: Device or Resource Busy |
| [16:44:42] | stegel: | i am not running any other apps at this time |
| [16:47:27] | stegel: | also is there a good resource to match a frequency file to a location? |
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| [17:07:40] | Mr_Grieves__: | Does anyone have a kworld 110/115 that works with myth? I've followed the directions on the wiki, but I'm having some trouble getting it going. |
| [17:08:50] | Mr_Grieves__: | I'm just trying to get the analog to work for now, and in myth all I see is static, and if I cat /dev/video0 into an mpg, cat actually returns an error (/dev/video0 is an invalid argument) |
| [17:09:23] | Mr_Grieves__: | My PVR-150 still works fine at least... |
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| [17:13:34] | laga: | unless it comes with an mpeg encoder, cat won't work |
| [17:15:19] | Mr_Grieves__: | laga: aha. The kworld 115 doesn't have one on-chip. |
| [17:15:29] | laga: | try xawtv or something similar |
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| [17:18:44] | Mr_Grieves__: | Hmm, xawtv still shows static, but it's also using the wrong frequency table. Anyone know offhand how to change that? |
| [17:20:23] | laga: | right click? |
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| [17:30:09] | Mr_Grieves__: | Ok — xawtv has correct info now — still static. I'm gonna go check the coax. Any other ideas? |
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| [17:34:40] | darkfrog: | Hey guys, does anyone know of a good video clipping tool for Windows (I know, I know) to trim MPEG-2 videos? Nothing seems to support the MPEG-2 files that my Hauppauge creates on my Myth box |
| [17:36:08] | wagnerrp: | mpeg2cut |
| [17:38:08] | darkfrog: | wagnerrp: site url? searching google turns up a bunch of hosted copies |
| [17:38:51] | wagnerrp: | ive got a copy on my hard drive, but i dont remember where i picked it up |
| [17:39:40] | wagnerrp: | the reported homepage is a dead yahoo page |
| [17:40:45] | darkfrog: | doh |
| [17:43:38] | iamlindoro: | search mpeg2cut2 |
| [17:43:42] | iamlindoro: | with the 2 at the end |
| [17:43:52] | iamlindoro: | first link |
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| [17:55:07] | Mr_Grieves__: | Quick question — do digital cable sources use the us-cable freq table? |
| [17:55:44] | wagnerrp: | for the most part, yes |
| [17:55:44] | Mr_Grieves__: | - or the -hrc/-irc tables? |
| [17:55:47] | Mr_Grieves__: | ok |
| [17:56:03] | wagnerrp: | they WILL use the same table as their analog segments |
| [17:56:25] | Mr_Grieves__: | Ok — thanks |
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| [18:21:06] | blackhole: | Hi, My TV tuner card doesn't seems to be detected or it seems to be detected as i have /dev/vedio0 but mythtv seems not to work. I am using "odyssey internal tv tuner card". Can someone help me what i need to check or which driver can be closest match and how can i load it? |
| [18:21:12] | blackhole: | This is paste from dmesg command http://codepad.org/riCPRPiW |
| [18:22:25] | wagnerrp: | that sounds like a framegrabber |
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| [18:26:56] | blackhole: | wagnerrp, I didn't get you. Can you please explain? |
| [18:27:40] | ** justinh looks in the log ** | |
| [18:27:50] | wagnerrp: | that card sounds like a framegrabber (i doubt its an mpeg encoder), so thats the kind of input you probably need |
| [18:28:12] | justinh: | oh. laptop with built-in tv tuner? doubt it's supported by linux despite what dmesg infers |
| [18:28:29] | blackhole: | wagnerrp, What would i need to install for that? |
| [18:28:42] | blackhole: | wagnerrp, It works in windows |
| [18:28:47] | justinh: | hahaha |
| [18:28:51] | justinh: | they always do of course |
| [18:28:54] | blackhole: | wagnerrp, Any possiblity some programs can make it work in linux/ |
| [18:28:59] | justinh: | tvtime |
| [18:29:09] | directhex: | if tvtime works, that's a start |
| [18:29:19] | justinh: | test the tuner hardware outside of mythtv, always |
| [18:29:30] | blackhole: | justinh, xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images This is what tvtime says! |
| [18:29:33] | blackhole: | :( |
| [18:29:58] | justinh: | sounds like you have a video driver problem too, not just tv tuner issues |
| [18:30:03] | directhex: | that means your output driver sucks |
| [18:30:11] | justinh: | as in the VGA device driver |
| [18:30:16] | directhex: | i.e. you're using something worthless like "vesa" to drive your screen |
| [18:30:33] | justinh: | I'm not being uncharitable here when I say maybe you'd be better off forgetting all about it |
| [18:30:56] | blackhole: | :( |
| [18:31:15] | blackhole: | I have ATI Radeon |
| [18:31:19] | justinh: | what do you know about the machine in question? hardware-wise ? |
| [18:32:06] | justinh: | right, so with ATI you stand a small chance of getting their binary drivers to work with your VGA device |
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| [18:32:42] | justinh: | a small chance is better than no chance of course :) |
| [18:33:15] | justinh: | and how good a chance you have depends on what version of hardware you have and which driver versions are available to you |
| [18:34:36] | justinh: | so... if tvtime doesn't work for you, you can pretty much forget all about mythtv until you have XVideo acceleration (Xv) working |
| [18:34:47] | wagnerrp: | im more wondering about sda7 |
| [18:34:58] | justinh: | like you say.. it works in Windows :D |
| [18:35:15] | wagnerrp: | i thought recent distros tended to put everything but root in one big partition |
| [18:35:19] | wagnerrp: | err... boot |
| [18:35:58] | justinh: | hey btw directhex I thought I'd seen the suckiest standalone DVR until I set up my inlaws' new machine yesterday. Oh boy. I expected better from Sony. MUCH better |
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| [18:36:26] | justinh: | you can set up as many as THIRTY timer recordings in 30 days ! |
| [18:37:04] | wagnerrp: | you get on their computer and show them mythweb? |
| [18:37:16] | justinh: | with dialup? nah |
| [18:37:32] | wagnerrp: | or did you refrain yourself with the fear that you may end up having to build and maintain a machine for them? |
| [18:37:49] | Mr_Grieves__: | Hrm, the coax is good – I'm still having trouble with my Kworld ATSC-115. xawtv is showing only static...any ideas? |
| [18:37:57] | justinh: | they're only going to be using it like a traditional VCR anyway. as in change channel to $whatever & press record at $time |
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| [18:39:24] | justinh: | wagnerrp: I don't fancy the tech support – but put it this way, I was reading the manual for that thing & thinking "RUH?! WTF?" so God help them |
| [18:41:01] | blackhole: | justinh, How does using VESA effect use of PCI card? |
| [18:41:27] | blackhole: | justinh, And why it works in Windows and not on LINUX. I mean probably some generic drivers should be there? |
| [18:41:39] | justinh: | blackhole: not having video acceleration will make video playback on even your machine pretty much unusable believe me |
| [18:42:03] | blackhole: | Hmm, Okay! |
| [18:42:09] | justinh: | blackhole: that's just it. VESA is a generic thing. You need ATI binary drivers and even then it's not guaranteed to work |
| [18:42:24] | blackhole: | Hmm! |
| [18:42:40] | justinh: | and by 'video acceleration' I'm not talking about help decoding mpeg or anything fancy either |
| [18:43:32] | Mr_Grieves__: | dmsg automagically detects the card, loads saa7134, and creates /dev/video0, but xawtv just shows static. Any ideas of what I need to do to get this framegrabber card working? |
| [18:43:32] | blackhole: | yes i understood what you want to say. Like just showing picture frames.. |
| [18:44:18] | justinh: | Mr_Grieves__: card autodetection isn't a magic bullet. it doesn't always work. sometimes users have to spoon-feed the driver modules options |
| [18:44:56] | justinh: | card=73, tuner=14 etc etc etc. Thing is, you either have to find out what they are.. or guess! What fun! |
| [18:46:01] | Mr_Grieves__: | justinh: I'm certain the card option is correct, from the wiki says and that dmsg identifies the card correctly. What's the range of the tuner options? |
| [18:46:03] | justinh: | bttv framegrabber tuner cards probably number in the thousands in terms of different products now |
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| [18:46:21] | justinh: | you'd be better googling the exact make/model of the tuner card |
| [18:46:30] | justinh: | see if anybody has wiki'd it |
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| [18:46:48] | Mr_Grieves__: | justinh: 'k. I reallly hate saa7134 cards :) |
| [18:47:02] | blackhole: | justinh, I ran scantv and it said device has no tuner, exiting |
| [18:48:12] | Mr_Grieves__: | My card is in the wiki — http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Kworld_ATSC_110 &md ash; Shouldn't need a non-default tuner option. |
| [18:49:01] | justinh: | blackhole: it's not enough to know you just have "A TV TUNER CARD" ;-) |
| [18:49:47] | justinh: | Mr_Grieves__: so it's not just a framegrabber then. given the choice I'd personally forget all aspirations of getting analogue working there |
| [18:50:28] | justinh: | analogue capture is (and always has been) better left to the likes of Hauppauge PVR tuner cards.. harder to get now than they used to be of course |
| [18:51:58] | ** justinh pukes. like soap operas aren't depressing enough at this time of year, they have to put a crawler onscreen imploring people alone at xmas to call 'careline'. Yeah that's socially responsible :) ** | |
| [18:52:17] | Mr_Grieves__: | justinh: I have a PVR-150 that works great — I'm just not sure if my cable company is sending out digital broadcasts yet. |
| [18:52:48] | Mr_Grieves__: | justinh: and I'm not having any luck setting up QAM blindly, either :( |
| [18:53:04] | justinh: | Mr_Grieves__: does your HDTV have a QAM tuner? ;-) |
| [18:53:53] | Mr_Grieves__: | Haha, don't have an HDTV yet — just got a new card in anticipation of the eventuality |
| [18:54:20] | Mr_Grieves__: | Figured I'd just use it as a secondary tuner 'til then. |
| [18:56:46] | dustybin: | justinh: ive scrapped all my handbrake rips, instead processing my dvd .vob files to make 1 big .vob with the film only, everything else is removed |
| [18:56:59] | justinh: | dustybin: so? |
| [18:57:12] | dustybin: | i thought you might be interested :( |
| [18:57:24] | justinh: | why? |
| [18:57:40] | justinh: | the minutae of your life doesn't interest me in the slightest |
| [18:57:42] | dustybin: | in the future if i get a big LCD, the original dvd vobs will look nicer than handbrake rips |
| [18:58:05] | squish102: | what should i look for to correct the following: mythtv fine, watch recordings fine, but live tv is split screen |
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| [18:59:19] | justinh: | squish102: recording profiles, more than likely |
| [18:59:34] | justinh: | that's all that differentiates livetv from schedules recordings really |
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| [19:01:56] | dustybin: | a friend of mine has a big 40" plasma and a dvd player what upscales, he has a bluray and dvd version of the same film, we played them both back and there was hardly any difference in quality |
| [19:02:17] | justinh: | then you both need your eyes tested |
| [19:02:38] | dustybin: | there might of been a 'slight' improvement, nothing to shout about at all |
| [19:02:53] | kormoc: | only 8x the resolution |
| [19:04:45] | Mr_Grieves__: | Is there a non-myth utility for checking QAM video? |
| [19:05:36] | justinh: | dvb-utils :) |
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| [19:08:22] | squish102: | Mr_Grieves__ dont you have a monitor? that can plat hd |
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| [19:08:49] | Mr_Grieves__: | Makes sense — Reckon linuxtv-dvb-apps would be the same? dvb-utils isn't in portage... |
| [19:09:07] | Mr_Grieves__: | squish102: Not yet — just trying to get a new tuner set up. |
| [19:11:39] | squish102: | Mr_Grieves__ no computer monitor? |
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| [19:12:02] | Mr_Grieves__: | :) Yes, I have a monitor. I thought you meant a HDTV. |
| [19:12:32] | squish102: | that is what i used to get my tuner set up and working |
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| [19:14:04] | justinh: | I was on about using a HDTV's tuner to see if there was QAM on the cable or not |
| [19:14:22] | justinh: | saves poking around in the dark wasting time |
| [19:15:20] | Mr_Grieves__: | Anyone know if charter is sending out QAM alongside analog by default or not? |
| [19:15:27] | Mr_Grieves__: | Their website is terrible... |
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| [19:16:13] | Hilikus: | hey guys |
| [19:18:29] | Hilikus: | for some reason my mythbox is skipping frames and freezing for short moments when watching live tv |
| [19:18:46] | Hilikus: | i disabled all the filters but i still have the same problem |
| [19:19:09] | Hilikus: | any idea what could it be? i have a feeling its a tuner card driver, does that make sense? |
| [19:20:12] | justinh: | Mr_Grieves__: probably varies by region too so YMMV |
| [19:21:15] | justinh: | Hilikus: I doubt it's a tuner driver issue. More than likely a video driver problem. Upgraded anything recently? Look in the output of mythfrontend -v playback for clues. Also see the backend log. if you're using wireless, try a wired connection & see if it helps any |
| [19:21:37] | Hilikus: | k, i'll do that |
| [19:21:39] | Hilikus: | thanks |
| [19:22:27] | justinh: | also check the 'use extra audio buffering' setting. in most cases that shouldn't be set |
| [19:22:40] | justinh: | in mythfrontend's tv playback settings ^^ |
| [19:23:48] | Mr_Grieves__: | justinh: I'm in a chat with them now...unfortunately I've never had much luck getting a tech that knows their ass from a hole in the ground from them.... ;P |
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| [19:25:56] | ** Mr_Grieves__ misses comcast... ** | |
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| [19:29:55] | iamlindoro: | squish102, You are using an ATI graphics card and Bob 2x. Change one of the above, your problem will go away. |
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| [19:31:52] | squish102: | thanks iamlindoro, i guess i need to change bob 2x |
| [19:32:25] | squish102: | if i knew what that was and where |
| [19:32:39] | iamlindoro: | Utilities/Setup->Setup->TV Settings->Playback, page three |
| [19:32:48] | squish102: | i guess it is the interlace or something. (I have ati... i know i know) |
| [19:32:56] | iamlindoro: | You can either edit your playback profile or change it to "slim" |
| [19:33:01] | iamlindoro: | I suggest the latter |
| [19:33:55] | iamlindoro: | And that's *de*interlace |
| [19:33:58] | iamlindoro: | but yes |
| [19:33:59] | squish102: | thanks... are there any mobo's that do HD audio over hdmi and have a nvidia vid card? |
| [19:34:11] | iamlindoro: | Many |
| [19:34:16] | iamlindoro: | well, not HD audio |
| [19:34:20] | iamlindoro: | but 5.1 anyway |
| [19:34:37] | iamlindoro: | HD audio = bitstreaming the new audio codecs like TrueHD and DTS-HD |
| [19:34:43] | Mr_Grieves__: | Charter's generic "wait for the next tech" messages have cycled 5 times...and still no tech appears. The sales reps are there, but maybe tech support isn't? (And the idiot sales rep didn't know before she transferred me?) |
| [19:34:53] | ** Mr_Grieves__ reallllllly misses charter.... ** | |
| [19:34:54] | squish102: | ok, so better than last time i loked, they were only doing sterio |
| [19:35:06] | iamlindoro: | If they were doing stereo, they could have done 5.1 |
| [19:35:11] | justinh: | iamlindoro what difference does it make anyway? bitstreamed is bitstreamed, I'd have thought |
| [19:35:20] | iamlindoro: | I think you may have misunderstood something last time you looked |
| [19:35:40] | squish102: | ok, i was also looking at VERY cheap mobo's |
| [19:36:08] | justinh: | they may not be able to descramble HD audio onboard but I'd have thought that straight passthrough would work fine no matter what |
| [19:36:10] | iamlindoro: | justinh, HDMI 1.3 compliance (more bandwidth for uncompressed audio) |
| [19:36:48] | justinh: | even uncompressed 10 channel audio (making that bit up) wouldn't be that high a rate a cable couldn't cope with it |
| [19:37:10] | iamlindoro: | justinh, IIRC all the HDMI 1.0 stuff has *juuuuuust* enough bandwidth for 1080p |
| [19:37:17] | iamlindoro: | but not for the 8 channel PCM on top of it |
| [19:37:47] | justinh: | I thought the audio was on different wires not embedded in the video |
| [19:38:46] | iamlindoro: | justinh, Hmm, upon checking my facts I find that 1.0 will do PCM, but not TrueHD/DTS-HD |
| [19:38:52] | justinh: | oops. I couldn't have been more wrong |
| [19:38:58] | iamlindoro: | (which was added for 1.3) |
| [19:39:09] | iamlindoro: | But I honestly don't know why, just know that most mobos are 1.0 compliant but not 1.3 |
| [19:39:21] | justinh: | hrm |
| [19:39:31] | justinh: | sounds like bobbins to me anyway |
| [19:40:07] | justinh: | there's a good chance they'd work at HDMI 1.3 they just lack certification |
| [19:40:12] | iamlindoro: | Probably |
| [19:40:17] | justinh: | but, all this is talking out of my hat |
| [19:41:10] | justinh: | most people who don't want a wall of speakers in their TV viewing room would be happy with 5.1 audio anyway |
| [19:41:17] | iamlindoro: | Anyway, I'm sure that libav* doesn't support any sort of passthrough yet for the Hd audio formats (not to mention the $700ish cost of a receiver to decode them) so I guess it's moot for a bit yet anyway |
| [19:41:30] | iamlindoro: | justinh, Indeed, myself includes |
| [19:41:32] | iamlindoro: | included |
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| [19:42:45] | iamlindoro: | squish102, To get decent (read: VDPAU capable and discrete audio for HDMI) hardware you are looking at the $110 range, but at that point you needn't add anything but processor, memory, and tuners |
| [19:43:23] | iamlindoro: | as the mobos in question have 9300 nvidia graphics that support all the VDPAU codecs, HDMI/Displayport/DVI/VGA outputs, and discrete audio hardware for HDMI |
| [19:43:31] | iamlindoro: | I'm currently typing on such a board, in fact. I like much. |
| [19:43:52] | squish102: | iamlindoro i was looking at boards in the $50 range.. probably why |
| [19:44:12] | justinh: | it's been funny at work seeing people with 'purevideo capable' video cards moan they don't get any help decoding in MCE |
| [19:44:16] | iamlindoro: | Heh, you won't find anything with discrete HDMI audio in there, best you might do would be a jumper from the SPDIF header into the HDMI |
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| [19:44:39] | iamlindoro: | justinh, I like my free linux features :) |
| [19:44:44] | squish102: | and btw setting that to 'slim' seemed to do the trick |
| [19:44:47] | squish102: | thanks |
| [19:44:49] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [19:45:15] | justinh: | we worked out what the max bandwidth spdif & toslink can carry is.. it's more than capable of carrying 'truHD' IIRC |
| [19:45:43] | iamlindoro: | justinh, Thought it was in the 1.5 Mbitish range (SPDIF) |
| [19:46:12] | justinh: | considering a basic coaxial video cable can carry 10Mhz without any trouble... |
| [19:46:36] | iamlindoro: | TrueHD is to 18–19 Mbit I think |
| [19:46:52] | justinh: | jees |
| [19:47:18] | justinh: | maybe not TOSLINK then |
| [19:47:19] | iamlindoro: | At least, in the spec it is, it's VBR by nature so probably sits somewhere substantially lower |
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| [19:47:40] | justinh: | still smells like just another excuse to sell boxes to us, to me |
| [19:47:54] | justinh: | like '3d tv' |
| [19:48:01] | iamlindoro: | justinh, Well that much is certain :) |
| [19:48:08] | iamlindoro: | "In the Blu-ray specification, Dolby TrueHD is an optional codec. Dolby TrueHD audiotracks may carry up to 24 bit audio in up to 8 discrete audio channels at 96 kHz or up to 6 channels at 192 kHz. The maximum encoded bitrate is 18 Mbit/s (the same as the uncompressed rate)." |
| [19:48:10] | iamlindoro: | thar we go |
| [19:48:30] | justinh: | you seen all the razzmatazz about '3d hd' ? polarised specs making a comeback! |
| [19:48:50] | iamlindoro: | justinh, I don't get it *at all*, I just can't see myself putting on glasses to watch... well, anything, really |
| [19:49:04] | iamlindoro: | Makes me wonder what I'm not "getting" about it |
| [19:49:54] | wagnerrp: | i just saw an ad on TV for netzero |
| [19:50:07] | justinh: | don't you want to have to look like 'Brains' out of Thunderbirds just to watch telly? :D |
| [19:50:20] | iamlindoro: | So I have all my DVB-S setup/aiming/Mythtv-setup notes written up... and no motivation whatsoever at the moment to turn them into a wiki article |
| [19:50:22] | wagnerrp: | 'heres a way for america's broadband users to save $16.5B a year, switch to net-zero DIALUP' |
| [19:50:35] | wagnerrp: | they actually expect people to be willing to switch back to dialup? |
| [19:50:41] | justinh: | iamlindoro if wiki pages were more easily lockable.. |
| [19:50:57] | iamlindoro: | justinh, I have a few in mind I'd love to lock... |
| [19:51:36] | iamlindoro: | and a few terms that ought to automagically format your hard drive for using |
| [19:52:40] | iamlindoro: | It's a bit embarassing that there's literally no article called "DVB-S" in the wiki |
| [19:53:54] | justinh: | blame all the europeans for that! |
| [19:54:14] | iamlindoro: | Which means you automatically have to forgive anyone doing some jackass thing when setting up DVB-S... and we can't have that |
| [19:54:46] | justinh: | randomly clicking stuff & trying the myriad options you mean? ;-) |
| [19:54:51] | iamlindoro: | yar |
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| [19:55:31] | iamlindoro: | Am trying to decide whether to go into basic aiming/peaking too. I took pictures to illustrate all that so I might as well |
| [19:55:43] | iamlindoro: | but then, I only learned the basics myself in the last week or two |
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| [20:15:58] | justinh: | I started using myth when dvb support was all new. like manually entering PIDs & stuff. arduous but at least it was easy to work out |
| [20:19:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | so iamlindoro – you got your dish aimed? |
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| [20:20:17] | justinh: | well, easy for a polymath :D |
| [20:20:45] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A, I got 129 and 148 (and will likely switch to a dish sub in a month or two) but I bought a cheap DVB-S card and have it aimed at a couple free channels right now so I'm writing up some docs for that purpose |
| [20:21:07] | iamlindoro: | Most I've managed to get is some foreign news and religious stuff, but still was a fun project |
| [20:21:58] | iamlindoro: | Not something I would necessarily suggest to US based folks as the programming isn't anything I'd watch much of, but good docs probably have more value abroad |
| [20:21:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | iamlindoro: if you could get 110/119, nasa is on there... sometimes they have interesting stuff on there. |
| [20:22:21] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A, I tried to aim at 119 this morning but didn't have much luck. I think the tree of doom is just too in the way |
| [20:22:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, not much to get in the US. |
| [20:23:32] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A, The nice part about the situation is that it helps me illustrate dish aiming for documentation purposes |
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| [20:23:50] | iamlindoro: | I have a good photo of the dish pointed straight at the tree, but still capable of getting channels |
| [20:24:44] | justinh: | no photos of the box arriving at the house? call that a wiki article in waiting?! |
| [20:24:50] | iamlindoro: | Heh |
| [20:25:08] | justinh: | "and here's the dog, chewing the postie's leg" |
| [20:25:42] | iamlindoro: | "In the case of satellite broadcasts, however, the antenna (dish) must be aimed at an object the size of a schoolbus traveling at 11,000 kilometers per hour at a distance of 35,000 kilometers. Precise aiming is, to say the least, critically important." |
| [20:25:56] | iamlindoro: | Think that should get across the point of "you can't just point it at the sky and go?" |
| [20:29:59] | laga: | isn't that orbit geostationary? |
| [20:30:35] | iamlindoro: | laga, I mention that, but a little hyperbole never hurt anyone |
| [20:31:06] | laga: | that's true |
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| [20:31:42] | laga: | just use the velocity of earth |
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| [20:38:13] | justinh: | just the distance & size thing should be enough to get their attention |
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| [20:44:38] | iamlindoro: | OK, agreed. My precious hyperbole... ;) |
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| [21:13:22] | porcodildo: | can mythvideo connect to samba shares? |
| [21:13:52] | justinh: | can mythtv bake potatoes? |
| [21:13:53] | Anduin: | porcodildo: it doesn't connect, mount them, let it know the path |
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| [21:14:04] | porcodildo: | ok |
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| [21:15:57] | dustybin: | I think I've found out why my Nova-T 500s were causing errors and disconnects, I had EIT scanning on all 4 tuners switched on, now only 1 tuner is used for EIT scanning and so far so good :) |
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| [21:24:32] | justinh: | oh bugger. Wallace & Gromit didn't record |
| [21:25:40] | directhex: | iplayer! |
| [21:26:14] | justinh: | yup |
| [21:26:29] | directhex: | for loonicks! |
| [21:26:47] | squish102: | anyone know if there is a nice wiki page on getting sound over hdmi? |
| [21:28:36] | justinh: | directhex: for virginmedia STB instead. watchable bitrate ftw |
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| [21:29:22] | justinh: | oh bloody nora. STB is telling me to phone customer services |
| [21:34:59] | justinh: | there we go. I tried turning it off & back on again myself. fixed it |
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| [21:40:32] | justinh: | what?! it's not on the ****ing iPlayer! |
| [21:41:11] | justinh: | heh just not *our* iPlayer. blimmin lame |
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| [21:44:41] | directhex: | it's on loonicks iplayer. dr who appears not to be tho |
| [21:45:36] | justinh: | recorded that. not arsed about it in the slightest |
| [21:46:14] | justinh: | I wonder if radiotimes changed the title or something |
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| [21:48:03] | justinh: | ruh? W&G is in oldrecorded |
| [21:48:25] | justinh: | nm – found it in VM's own ondemand bit |
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| [22:01:43] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-S |
| [22:01:53] | iamlindoro: | I'm too lazy to do the Mythtv-setup bit until later. |
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| [22:06:44] | abqjp: | "This rules our for-pay services" our? |
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| [22:07:21] | iamlindoro: | rassafrassa |
| [22:07:27] | iamlindoro: | fixed |
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| [22:09:32] | abqjp: | "you will be unable to une your channels!" |
| [22:09:56] | iamlindoro: | already fixed that |
| [22:10:11] | iamlindoro: | What is this, my grade school english class? |
| [22:12:57] | abqjp: | Personally, I don't consider typos as spelling mistakes. I doubt you had computers in your grade school english class. |
| [22:13:30] | abqjp: | Are you actually getting any worthwhile channels FTA? |
| [22:13:38] | iamlindoro: | Well... hmm, maybe not english class. We had Apple IIe's in computer class, though |
| [22:14:15] | iamlindoro: | abqjp, Nothing truly worthwhile, I got a couple foreign language and religious channels, but it bore documenting since there wasn't even a DVB-S page |
| [22:14:42] | iamlindoro: | abqjp, Mostly I was buying stuff so that I can switch to Dish in the next few months, so I threw a cheap DVB-S card in to play |
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| [22:15:48] | abqjp: | I would love it, if I could bypass my local OTA stations. They have an annoying habit of switching from HD to SD, and the filling half the screen with weather information. Very, very, annoying when you are trying to enjoy the show. |
| [22:16:10] | iamlindoro: | abqjp, I think there is more that's worth looking at further in the eastern orbital locations, but as you can see from the pics, I'm not gonna get any further east |
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| [22:18:00] | iamlindoro: | Oh, and I got a PBS channel |
| [22:18:13] | iamlindoro: | (in SD) |
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| [22:26:44] | Dr{Who}: | Q. any faq on setting up a mythfrontend on a system on a wan or another network to connect to mythbackend and another location? |
| [22:29:34] | iamlindoro: | Dr{Who}, What is it specifically you wish to know?Outside of forwarding all relevant ports or exposing the backend on a real IP, it's no different than running it locally-- (outside of the fact that both sides and all hops in between will need to have inhuman-fast up and download speeds, which 99.99% of people don't) |
| [22:31:20] | Dr{Who}: | k |
| [22:31:32] | Dr{Who}: | so its a no go... |
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| [22:32:03] | Dr{Who}: | I just want to be able to watch live tv remotely |
| [22:32:09] | Dr{Who}: | compression is ok |
| [22:32:24] | iamlindoro: | the myth backend doesn't compress any material on the fly |
| [22:32:53] | Dr{Who}: | what would be a good way to do this. any other packages exist? |
| [22:33:30] | iamlindoro: | Nothing that has anything to do with myth, I'm sure there's probably something out there that will compress your video on the fly, but it's not topical here |
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| [22:39:51] | Dr{Who}: | hmm maybe i can have it record the station 24/7 split it up and transcode it someplace that i can rsync to my house. |
| [22:40:17] | Dr{Who}: | then i can convert it to my hacked tivo box and uploaded it to my tivo |
| [22:40:38] | abqjp: | When I went to work this morning, the temp was 45f outside. Now it is 29f, 15mph winds and light snow. |
| [22:42:31] | jamesd: | abqjp, don't worry your turn at really crappy weather will happen... one day it was 5F then it warmed up to 25F and we got a nice winter blizzard that dumped 12" of the white stuff then it went back down to 2F and the next day it happened again. |
| [22:43:39] | abqjp: | My sister lives in WA. She has been complaining for over two weeks..... |
| [22:44:04] | ** Dr{Who} is glad portland is finally thawing out. ** | |
| [22:49:20] | abqjp: | I am in the mood to watch a gook UK mystery. Too bad neither BBC America nor BIO has shown any in a year --- I wonder why? Do they still make Midsomer Murders? |
| [22:52:32] | abqjp: | iamlindoro: did you try turning composite back on? Did it help with VDPAU? |
| [22:53:01] | iamlindoro: | abqjp, Helped with green screens, I think the out-of-order frame thing has returned with 180.18 (or the deinterlacers are broken) |
| [22:53:23] | abqjp: | agreed |
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| [22:53:52] | iamlindoro: | Have been seeing *a lot* of it since the new driver |
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| [22:55:16] | high-rez: | huh, 180.18 has been great for me – but only works with live video. For me it's initialized before there's data on the ring buffer (my capture device is really slow to feed data after being tuned). |
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| [22:55:28] | high-rez: | s/only with/only without |
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| [22:58:15] | iamlindoro: | What capture device is that? |
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| [22:59:36] | high-rez: | iamlin: twinhan 1020a |
| [23:01:00] | iamlindoro: | Can't imagine why any DVB-S card would be that slow to feed data unless you were doing something naughty with it to slow it down |
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| [23:05:02] | high-rez: | I don't know, could be the time it takes in the switch, could be a bad switch. I haven't really sat down to debug it. |
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| [23:45:14] | k-man_: | what is projectx? |
| [23:45:16] | iamlindoro: | There. No more wiki. Bad wiki. |
| [23:45:26] | iamlindoro: | k-man_, An MPEG-2 demux/remux software |
| [23:45:30] | clever: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKK933KK6Gg |
| [23:45:39] | clever: | a demo of how a cpu and gpu draw images |
| [23:45:43] | clever: | done with paint ball guns |
| [23:45:54] | k-man_: | iamlindoro, does it replace mythtranscode or something? |
| [23:46:08] | iamlindoro: | no. |
| [23:47:44] | k-man_: | iamlindoro, i have this problem with audio sync on dvds archived from recordings, someone on the mailing list said "use the projectx option" to solve the problem – is that something you just turn on in mythtv? |
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| [23:48:45] | RyeBrye: | you have to install projectx first and give the path to it |
| [23:48:49] | RyeBrye: | but there is a checkbox somewhere |
| [23:48:59] | RyeBrye: | and a place you give it the path to it |
| [23:49:02] | k-man_: | RyeBrye, ah, i found the check box |
| [23:49:10] | k-man_: | not the path |
| [23:49:15] | iamlindoro: | If you're speaking of MythArchive, then yes, that can be set to use mprojectx |
| [23:49:37] | RyeBrye: | there is a setting somewhere... can't remeber where...but you give it the path to a bunch of crap and projectx is in that list too |
| [23:49:37] | iamlindoro: | k-man_, what are you using to do your recordings? |
| [23:49:46] | iamlindoro: | ie, what is your tuner? |
| [23:49:50] | k-man_: | mythtv – dvb-t |
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| [23:50:14] | iamlindoro: | Ah, then projectx is your only hope, may help. the audio sync issues are because of slight errors in your stream |
| [23:50:38] | iamlindoro: | were you using a PVR-150 or similar, I would advise you just to change your recording options so that they were DVD compliant in the first place |
| [23:50:42] | iamlindoro: | but with DVB you have no choice. |
| [23:51:12] | k-man_: | iamlindoro, ok – thanks |
| [23:51:30] | k-man_: | so is the projectx I need? http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115063 |
| [23:51:47] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [23:51:53] | iamlindoro: | (although your distro might have packaged it) |
| [23:52:32] | k-man_: | is it in debian? |
| [23:52:53] | k-man_: | i don't think it is |
| [23:53:17] | ** iamlindoro checks the part of his brain marked "where I keep all the info of what every distro packager has pacakged, ever" ** | |
| [23:53:29] | iamlindoro: | oh wait, my brain doesn't have that part, look for yourself, sheesh! |
| [23:54:00] | k-man_: | ok |
| [23:54:01] | k-man_: | thanks |
| [23:54:07] | k-man_: | just thought you might know |
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