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| [00:01:49] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: can the same be said about samba? |
| [00:03:23] | iamlindoro_: | abqjp: you can secure samba |
| [00:03:27] | iamlindoro_: | gah |
| [00:03:32] | iamlindoro_: | dustybin: ^^^ |
| [00:03:52] | iamlindoro_: | samba/winbind/opendirectory makes for a nice little domain/authentication setup |
| [00:05:35] | dustybin: | right ok |
| [00:06:28] | ** jams suggests sticking with nfs ** | |
| [00:07:13] | iamlindoro_: | yes, or if you use samba don't go overboard unless you ahve a damn good reason |
| [00:14:45] | ** iamlindoro_ wonders if he can get myth built and working properly before going to dinner ** | |
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| [00:17:57] | Ace2016: | Hi all |
| [00:18:39] | Ace2016: | Can the receiver built into the case for an imon remote work with a microsoft media centre remote? (R6) |
| [00:18:49] | iamlindoro_: | yes. |
| [00:23:25] | fuxxy: | how can I list all my pcm devices? aplay -L seems a bit cripples |
| [00:23:27] | fuxxy: | how can I list all my pcm devices? aplay -L seems a bit crippled |
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| [00:35:44] | fuxxy: | okay, i give up for tonight |
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| [00:58:50] | Decepticon: | it is recommended to install mythbuntu over installing ubuntu and then mythtv? |
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| [00:59:33] | elprespufferfish: | does mythvideo handle usb drives well? |
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| [01:00:24] | elprespufferfish: | as in, is there any way to attach a drive, and have it just work in mythvideo? |
| [01:02:39] | kormoc: | by just work you mean? |
| [01:05:02] | elprespufferfish: | see the videos without too much finagling |
| [01:06:11] | kormoc: | so set it to live browse mode? |
| [01:08:12] | Ace2016: | why is it that i can never find batteries when i need them :sigh: |
| [01:08:32] | Ace2016: | was iamlindoro talking to me? |
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| [01:14:51] | PaulWay: | Hi all! |
| [01:15:07] | uE1: | Let's say I know where a QAM-256 channel is (because my TV finds it), but the 'scan channels' dialog in mythtv-setup doesn't find it (I am using hdhomerun for my tuner). Does anyone know of a way of hinting to MythTV about how to find that channel? |
| [01:15:39] | PaulWay: | I'm setting up a MythTV machine and file server for a friend, on CentOS 5; it doesn't seem to have a kernel recent enough to detect the Hauppauge WinTV Nova-T 500 card that I'm using. |
| [01:15:49] | PaulWay: | Anyone got any experience with getting that working in 2.6.18 kernels? |
| [01:19:42] | PaulWay: | And why does the 'Input' section in mythtv-setup only give me three source options: schedulesdirect, EIT and no grabber... |
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| [01:29:27] | PaulWay: | re first problem, looks like the MythTV wiki has a good write up under the card's page (unsurprisingly) :-) |
| [01:30:36] | lyricnz: | Anyone know of a good motherboard, with onboard nvidia+hdmi, that works well in linux? (for mythtv frontend). Ideally intel, not amd. |
| [01:31:07] | my2keh: | should |
| [01:31:41] | lyricnz: | Anyone have leadtek winfast 1000S working, btw? Friend wants to convert MCE to mythtv, but has this card |
| [01:32:43] | PaulWay: | lyricnz: hmmm – nvidia chipsets work better for AMD over Intel but I don't think there's much in it. |
| [01:33:27] | lyricnz: | I really dislike ATI cards (especially drivers under linux), and it seems like Intel dual-core CPUs are the best right now. |
| [01:33:57] | PaulWay: | *shrugs* The AMD Athlon64 dual-core chips give them a run for their money in my experience. |
| [01:34:17] | my2keh: | anyone know how to debug scratchy audio/ |
| [01:35:24] | PaulWay: | But steering clear of ATI is a good thing for MythTV from my experience. |
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| [01:40:50] | FisherPrice: | Hi, I think my .mythtv/config.xml file got destroyed.. I can't watch TV but I can do everything else.. Help |
| [01:40:57] | FisherPrice: | Please |
| [01:41:06] | FisherPrice: | though i think it might have something to do with the grabber |
| [01:41:15] | FisherPrice: | "Configuration::Load – Erro parsing: /..../.mythtv/config.xml at line:1 column:1" |
| [01:41:22] | FisherPrice: | "Configuration::Load – Error Msg: unexpected end of file" |
| [01:41:25] | Anduin: | FisherPrice: there is nothing in there that would break that and still have everything else work |
| [01:41:51] | Anduin: | FisherPrice: that just means the file is empty (check) |
| [01:41:59] | FisherPrice: | it is empty |
| [01:42:14] | FisherPrice: | but is there any explaination why i can't watch TV? |
| [01:42:28] | FisherPrice: | it just pops right out |
| [01:42:38] | FisherPrice: | i enter it.. but it returns out straight away. |
| [01:42:43] | FisherPrice: | it's just started doing it |
| [01:42:44] | Anduin: | FisherPrice: check the backend/frontend log around the time you tried |
| [01:45:11] | iamlindoro: | abqjp, I see the tearing as well-- it's not the worst I've ever seen by any stretch, but enough that in high-motion it's noticeable. Certainly usable for my purposes (secondary upstairs frontend) but hopefully the driver fixes get done soon |
| [01:46:52] | jpabq: | Kieth Packard says it is a top priority, but it has been for months. |
| [01:47:05] | FisherPrice: | "Configuration::Load – Error Msg: unexpected end of file" |
| [01:47:11] | FisherPrice: | sry |
| [01:47:56] | FisherPrice: | Anduin:from the frontend "Entry to program.... failed to get pginfo" |
| [01:48:45] | Anduin: | FisherPrice: pasetbin the frontend/backend logs around the failure |
| [01:48:48] | FisherPrice: | Anduin: i think i know what went wrong |
| [01:49:00] | Anduin: | even better |
| [01:49:01] | FisherPrice: | i tried to add some file paths for storage groups |
| [01:49:19] | FisherPrice: | i get an error in the backend log that they are not writable |
| [01:49:41] | FisherPrice: | where should these directories go... who should own them and what permissions |
| [01:49:44] | iamlindoro: | jpabq, Anyway, that aside, it plays my Blu-ray rips of the new Bond stuff with Aplomb :) |
| [01:50:08] | iamlindoro: | jpabq, Imagine I'll have some difficulty with HD-PVR CBR stuff, but VBR seems to be doing the job these days |
| [01:50:27] | Anduin: | FisherPrice: They must be rw by whoever runs the backend |
| [01:50:57] | FisherPrice: | ohhh, kk |
| [01:51:05] | FisherPrice: | I think i understand now |
| [01:51:14] | FisherPrice: | where i went wrong |
| [01:51:16] | FisherPrice: | thanks |
| [01:51:35] | ** FisherPrice slaps forhead for not looking in the logs.... though i didn't think i had logging switched on ** | |
| [01:54:22] | PaulWay: | Now to get that infernal hell that is Australian programme guide information sorted out... |
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| [02:14:43] | dustybin: | anybody watched Tokyo Godfathers ? |
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| [02:16:57] | hednod: | no matter where i put my tv antenna, i get drops in signal. argh! |
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| [02:21:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | hednod: even on the root? |
| [02:24:34] | hednod: | can't put one on the roof |
| [02:24:38] | hednod: | rental |
| [02:26:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | hednod: Apartment or house? |
| [02:27:08] | hednod: | townhome, two stories. but its in a compex, other townhomes around me |
| [02:27:23] | hednod: | im also in a valley with trees around and i face the opposite direction of the city |
| [02:28:37] | J-e-f-f-A: | hednod: In the US? |
| [02:28:43] | hednod: | yes |
| [02:29:33] | hednod: | unfortionately the channel I am trying to receive over the air is not available by free cable |
| [02:30:34] | J-e-f-f-A: | hednod: You still might be able to pull it in with a directional antenna. It doesn't have to clear the trees, and from what I've learned recently, it may even pick up signal better when aimed higher... |
| [02:31:23] | hednod: | I get good signal, the problem is drops |
| [02:31:50] | hednod: | signal strength is good, signal quality is good most of the time, but i get drops. |
| [02:32:03] | hednod: | where the signal quality just *drops* to zero for 1–2 seconds and then comes back up |
| [02:33:06] | J-e-f-f-A: | hednod: Yeah, I had that problem on a channel 40 miles away once too... amplification just made it worse... |
| [02:33:24] | hednod: | i tweak my amplication just enough to get high 90's strength |
| [02:33:35] | hednod: | if i go higher it does make it worse |
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| [02:33:44] | dustybin: | its _amazing_ how quick BBC posts bugs on popular software, i mean FFS |
| [02:33:44] | dustybin: | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7688705.stm |
| [02:33:59] | dustybin: | why dont BBC post some linux bugs |
| [02:34:57] | dustybin: | its like when the new version of firefox was out, BBC was quick to post a article about a possible flaw |
| [02:35:36] | hednod: | because microsoft has people hunting for that stuff all day long and sending it to the BBC? =p |
| [02:36:01] | dustybin: | maybe so, BBC are known scaremongers |
| [02:36:41] | dustybin: | bugs exist in _ALL_ software |
| [02:36:47] | dustybin: | *hapen |
| [02:36:50] | dustybin: | *happen |
| [02:37:31] | hednod: | right |
| [02:37:40] | hednod: | so there is probably a hidden agenda |
| [02:37:46] | hednod: | as to what to show |
| [02:37:53] | clev: | dustybin: i often see 'NULL' as the next show comming up, in the OSD that the channel overlays |
| [02:38:05] | clev: | thats a bug in the software at the channel source:P |
| [02:38:46] | dustybin: | clev: Remember you told me to tell you when you were acting rudely and insensitively? Remember that? You're doing it right now. |
| [02:39:06] | clev: | did you script that or something... |
| [02:39:12] | dustybin: | :P |
| [02:39:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | clev: He's got it programmed to his "F2" key... ;-) |
| [02:40:00] | dustybin: | clev: why did you get booted out of school? |
| [02:40:05] | clev: | dustybin: a fight |
| [02:40:16] | dustybin: | nerd v school bully ? |
| [02:40:32] | clev: | worse |
| [02:40:36] | hednod: | nerd bully vs school |
| [02:40:46] | clev: | a girl punched me in the nose |
| [02:40:59] | ** dustybin pretends not to smile ** | |
| [02:41:22] | ** J-e-f-f-A trys not to split his side open laughing... ** | |
| [02:41:35] | clev: | that wasnt the end, that was just the start:P |
| [02:41:56] | dustybin: | clev: did it happen in the IT class by any chance? |
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| [02:42:25] | clev: | dustybin: biology class |
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| [03:09:52] | toorima: | anyone can recommend a good usb ir reciver? I have a hauppage 150 with remote today but are planing on removing the card, so need a new ir reciver, have a logitec harmony 880 as remote so only need reciver part |
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| [03:10:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | toorima: My vote is the MS MCE receiver (& remote...) ;-) |
| [03:12:53] | fuxxy: | mmm, I'm such an idiot |
| [03:13:04] | toorima: | hmm can you buy only the receiver? |
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| [03:17:12] | J-e-f-f-A: | toorima: Not normally I don't think, but you may find one on eBay or something, or even a set relatively cheap... ;-) |
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| [03:17:26] | toorima: | ok i'll look into it, thx |
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| [03:18:01] | clev: | X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) |
| [03:18:05] | clev: | thats a new error |
| [03:18:20] | clev: | i think 1280x720 is overloading my video ram... |
| [03:18:49] | fuxxy: | I created a new device map in alsa (called "rate_convert") to recode mp3's playing in 44.1 khz to 48khz. How can I specify mythmusic to use this new device? |
| [03:19:07] | fuxxy: | I've tried ALSA:cards.pcm.rate_convert |
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| [03:20:31] | clev: | -vo x11 fixed my error:) |
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| [03:44:45] | oobe: | mythtv Internal player is giving artifacts for all my dvix movies |
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| [03:45:02] | oobe: | does anyone have any ideas on that |
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| [03:54:27] | riddlebox: | if I have a pvr 500 can I take a vcr and hook it up to the pvr500 and record a tape onto my hard drive? |
| [03:56:27] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [03:56:38] | iamlindoro: | although myth would be a waste for that |
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| [03:56:45] | iamlindoro: | cat /dev/video0 > somefile.mpg |
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| [03:59:00] | riddlebox: | iamlindoro, would that be from the component port then? |
| [03:59:24] | iamlindoro: | given the pvr-500 has no component ins, no |
| [03:59:31] | iamlindoro: | composite, yes |
| [03:59:36] | iamlindoro: | or S-video |
| [03:59:36] | riddlebox: | iamlindoro, ohh sorry |
| [03:59:50] | iamlindoro: | or RF if you were really hurting, but S-video is the best choice |
| [04:00:15] | riddlebox: | so it considers all those ports /dev/video0 then? |
| [04:00:47] | iamlindoro: | video0 is the card, you switch inputs with c4l2-ctl |
| [04:00:51] | iamlindoro: | er v4l2-ctl |
| [04:02:08] | riddlebox: | I have v4lctl |
| [04:05:38] | riddlebox: | I am not sure how I would change to use the composite part of the 500 |
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| [04:26:16] | riddlebox: | iamlindoro, figured it out and it works perfect thanks |
| [04:26:20] | riddlebox: | the power of google |
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| [08:17:14] | cwsmith: | 2008-10–14 11:08:32.015 MythSocket(b2aaa608:16): writeStringList: No data written on writeBlock does anyone know why these appear in the logs ? |
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| [08:43:33] | trumee: | guys, i imported some channels from channels.conf file created with dvbscan. However, some channels were not imported my mythtv, although i can watch these channels using mplayer. Is there any way i can import them into mythtv? |
| [08:44:15] | Dibblah: | trumee: Don't import a channels.conf. |
| [08:44:22] | trumee: | it is strange that mplayer is able to lock onto that frequency but mythtv doesnt |
| [08:44:30] | Dibblah: | Scan – It ends up being mostly the same thing. |
| [08:44:31] | Anduin: | trumee: does the mythtv-setup scanner not find them? |
| [08:44:55] | Dibblah: | What's the source / pastebin a log of the scan. |
| [08:44:57] | trumee: | Dibblah, Anduin:no mythtv-setup scanner cannot find it |
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| [08:45:26] | trumee: | Dibblah,Anduin:mplayer is able to lock in on these frequencies |
| [08:46:15] | Dibblah: | trumee: Can you paste a log of mythtv-setup -v channel,si,record |
| [08:46:31] | Dibblah: | When it's doing the scan? (NOT import of channels.conf) |
| [08:46:59] | Dibblah: | Preferrably from a state of no transponders + no channels. |
| [08:47:16] | trumee: | Dibblah, i did not do a scan in mythtv. but let me try that |
| [08:47:35] | Dibblah: | "no mythtv-setup scanner cannot find it"...? |
| [08:48:08] | Dibblah: | And what's your source? DVB-t, DVB-c,... |
| [08:48:22] | trumee: | Dibblah, i meant mythtv does not use all the channels which are in my channels.conf |
| [08:48:44] | trumee: | Dibblah, apology for not being clear |
| [08:48:55] | trumee: | Dibblah, it is DVB-C |
| [08:49:23] | Dibblah: | So, do the above and pastebin the log if it doesn't work. |
| [08:49:59] | Dibblah: | You're probably out of luck, then unless you want to patch Myth. |
| [08:50:00] | trumee: | Dibblah, k |
| [08:50:41] | trumee: | Dibblah, is there a way to manually add channels to the database? |
| [08:50:57] | Dibblah: | NTL's NIT (ISTR) is a mess – All of the regional channels are broadcast as if they're local. |
| [08:51:04] | Dibblah: | Can you apply a patch? |
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| [08:51:35] | trumee: | Dibblah, yes i can |
| [08:51:53] | Dibblah: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/3640 |
| [08:52:01] | Dibblah: | Apply Janne's patch. |
| [08:52:47] | trumee: | Dibblah, will this patch againt 0.21 |
| [08:53:11] | Dibblah: | You need to specify the correct Network ID. |
| [08:53:18] | Dibblah: | I have no ideas :) |
| [08:53:32] | Dibblah: | Try it. |
| [08:53:49] | trumee: | Dibblah, ok will give it a go. thanks |
| [08:54:16] | Dibblah: | Of course, I don't think that NTL has any channels in clear, so you may have other problems ;) |
| [08:54:42] | trumee: | Dibblah, what does Network Id mean? |
| [08:55:06] | Dibblah: | Get it from your subscribed box. |
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| [08:55:21] | Dibblah: | Go into the service menu. |
| [08:56:31] | trumee: | Dibblah, ok i see what you mean |
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| [09:03:42] | trumee: | Dibblah, i have Hauppauge card HVR1100. |
| [09:06:19] | trumee: | Dibblah, DVB-T , i thought dvb-t and dvb-c were the same. :). i just started looking into mythtv today. need to learn a bit |
| [09:07:17] | Dibblah: | trumee: Oh, right. In which case, the above is not your issue. |
| [09:07:31] | Dibblah: | Just do a 'scan all transports'. |
| [09:08:09] | trumee: | Dibblah, cheers |
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| [09:30:10] | trumee_: | guys, are there any usb based dvb-t devices which work with mythtv |
| [09:32:44] | directhex: | linuxtv.org |
| [09:32:47] | directhex: | check the dvb wiki |
| [09:35:55] | trumee_: | directhex, cheers |
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| [12:07:29] | Lunar_Lamp: | I have just two tv-aerial points in my house. Both of which are in rooms where I do not want a loud backend mythtv box running. So, I can try and build a nice quiet combined back/front end box, but I'm left wondering – is it possible to build a very minimal machine that has just the tvcard and minimal spec (thus quiet) that then offloads it's work to a power-house backend over the network? |
| [12:07:35] | Lunar_Lamp: | It would seem that I can use multiple backends happily, but I want to know if there are any minimum specs for the minimal-backend I want as it would be the only one with a TVcard. |
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| [12:39:35] | AndyCap_: | Lunar_Lamp: use an extension cord? what powerhouse work is it you want the backend to do? commercial flagging and transcoding is cpu intensive, but other than that recording and playback (for the backend) is doable on most hardware. |
| [12:40:23] | AndyCap_: | Lunar_Lamp: the frontend could suck up a lot of cpu if you plan to playback h.264 hdtv. |
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| [12:41:02] | Lunar_Lamp: | Yeah, the extension would have to be *very* long and wander halfway through the house unfortunately, but thanks for the hints. |
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| [12:43:44] | sid3windr: | I think a backend can surely do commercial flagging for shows recorded on another backend, no? |
| [12:43:47] | sid3windr: | if you enable that option |
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| [13:01:40] | AndyCap_: | Lunar_Lamp: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-23.html#ss23.25 |
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| [14:12:41] | trumee_: | does mythtv commercial flagging work for UK freeview? |
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| [14:15:17] | trumee_: | wiki suggests ShowAnalyzer. does this work under linux? |
| [14:26:15] | justinh: | never heard of it |
| [14:26:31] | ** justinh hands trumee_ a 4 minute skip button ** | |
| [14:27:00] | justinh: | they might not be flaggable, but at least the length of breaks is consistent |
| [14:29:48] | justinh: | showanalyzer is only for windows & probably won't work for UK breaks either |
| [14:31:15] | justinh: | I hope the mythtv wiki isn't suggesting using a windows app anyway! |
| [14:31:48] | justinh: | oh FFS |
| [14:32:11] | justinh: | username torrent99 |
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| [15:05:27] | trumee_: | guys, i have configured Radio Times feed for mythtv. I am currently running mythfilldatabase, but it is too slow. Afetr 30 minutes of running it crashes out with error 500 or something. is their any way to quicken this, or is there a bug in my config? |
| [15:06:34] | trumee_: | The cpu usage has been 90% for the last 30 minutes running tv_grab_uk_rt |
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| [15:11:17] | justinh: | trumee_: just ignore me then. your loss |
| [15:11:54] | trumee_: | is it possible to do modify tv_grab_uk_rt call to get EPG for only 7 days |
| [15:12:40] | trumee_: | justinh, i guess i will define a button to skip for 4 minutes |
| [15:12:43] | justinh: | no. it grabs all it can in one go |
| [15:13:14] | justinh: | try running the grabber manually with tv_grab_uk_rt --config-file /home/mythtv/.mythtv/$videosourcename.xmltv |
| [15:14:02] | justinh: | trumee_: the 4 minute skip works for the vast majority of shows on ITV & channel 4 etc. not Five's channels though – but there's FA worth watching on them |
| [15:15:17] | trumee_: | justinh, thanks. is there a way to limit the EPG download to say 3 days. |
| [15:15:22] | justinh: | nope |
| [15:15:49] | justinh: | oh wait yes there is |
| [15:15:52] | justinh: | with --days |
| [15:15:55] | trumee_: | tv_grab_uk_rt --days x , is an option |
| [15:16:10] | justinh: | you answered your own question, neat |
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| [15:16:24] | trumee_: | justinh, but where do i define the days parameter. what config file should i use? |
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| [15:24:14] | `migo`: | hello :) |
| [15:25:28] | `migo`: | is there a error in the music module of mythtv ? or is it my fault that myth always turns down as soon as i want to listen a song ? |
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| [15:37:23] | `migo`: | anyone here at all ? |
| [15:49:05] | mzb_d800: | no ... they're all asleep, and I'm a bot |
| [15:49:40] | mzb_d800: | check you settings in general ... master vs pcm ++ volume settings |
| [15:53:36] | `migo`: | i found out by now that it seems to be a prob wiht the visualisation |
| [15:55:00] | `migo`: | the prob is the following: if i listen to a song and want to change it with keyup/down and pressing enter, mythtv turns down immadietly |
| [15:55:15] | `migo`: | i turned the visualising off and now it seems to work better |
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| [15:55:41] | iamlindoro: | sphery, justinh: Have you seen the latest users post from ell-gee-one-two-three? Links himself a little ****-ng howto |
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| [15:56:04] | laga: | uh-oh |
| [15:56:18] | iamlindoro: | Someone *really* needs to get on there and tell him he'd already been warned about offlimits discussion (by Sphery) and say buh-bye forever |
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| [15:57:32] | `migo`: | ohw... hey mchou |
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| [16:00:55] | shiftplusone: | Hello... I had a problem with mythtv cutting videos off at about 35 minutes... realised it's because the files are stored on fat32 so I am guessing 35 minutes is roughly 2 gigs.... anyway... is it possible to get mythtv to split up the recording? |
| [16:01:44] | mchou: | shiftplusone: how about dont use fat32? |
| [16:02:00] | iamlindoro: | fat32 isn't limited to 2 GB |
| [16:02:13] | shiftplusone: | 4gb? |
| [16:02:29] | `migo`: | good idea mchou |
| [16:03:10] | shiftplusone: | well I had the fat32 to share files between windows and linux without any issues, so it's the biggest partition I have... backing everything up and repartitioning would be too much of a hassle. |
| [16:03:38] | cesman: | Linux can read an write NTFS |
| [16:03:43] | cesman: | google NTFS-3g |
| [16:03:55] | `migo`: | yesterday i converted files wiht x264 codec... a movie of 2 hours became just 600MB |
| [16:04:14] | mchou: | shiftplusone: convert fat32 to ntfs |
| [16:04:18] | cesman: | or google windows ext3 |
| [16:04:40] | cesman: | there is a program that will allow windows to read ext2 and 3 (never used it myself) |
| [16:04:56] | shiftplusone: | all of the ext3 things for windows i've tried ended up crashing the computer... conflicting with TrueCrypt somehow. |
| [16:05:04] | mchou: | oh lord |
| [16:05:09] | sphery: | iamlindoro: can't believe you told me that... Now I may actually respond. (Been exercising a /lot/ of restraint to not respond to a certain post that called me "not right-thinking".) |
| [16:05:23] | sphery: | that post was a different thread, though |
| [16:05:37] | iamlindoro: | sphery, -user not-right-thinking is "not my way of thinking" |
| [16:05:48] | mchou: | sphery: not right-thinking?? |
| [16:06:13] | mchou: | sphery: I'd like to see said post. Can you provide linky? |
| [16:06:19] | sphery: | basically said, "you say ... when all right-thinking individuals disagree" |
| [16:07:11] | sphery: | mchou: proof that I'm an idiot: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/354783#354783 |
| [16:07:41] | sphery: | I'll have to take it iamlindoro's way--if that user says I'm not right thinking, perhaps it's a compliment |
| [16:07:51] | mchou: | sphery: oh lord |
| [16:09:40] | laga: | cheap chinese lamp – laga: 1:0 |
| [16:09:40] | shiftplusone: | I know windows has the fat32 to ntfs converting utility... is there a way to convert from linux without losing data? |
| [16:09:49] | shiftplusone: | actually nvrm... I'll google. |
| [16:10:42] | mchou: | sphery: that dude always writes clueless shit |
| [16:11:25] | mchou: | sphery: at least I get some entertainment out of the guy |
| [16:13:43] | shiftplusone: | guess I'll have to boot into windows to convert. |
| [16:13:45] | shiftplusone: | 'night |
| [16:13:48] | shiftplusone: | thanks for the help. |
| [16:15:14] | `migo`: | what am i doing wrong wiht those visualing modules ? |
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| [16:15:51] | `migo`: | as soon as i want to have them,mythtv jsut dies when i change the song,sometimes it doesnt even start the music module and mythtv turns off immaidnetly |
| [16:16:45] | `migo`: | is there a trick ? |
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| [16:17:39] | ** cesman has seen crashs w/ ProjectM visualization, but other than that no issues w/ MythMusic ** | |
| [16:18:00] | iamlindoro: | if you call looking at the frontend log in various verbose modes a trick, then yes, there's a trick |
| [16:18:41] | iamlindoro: | FWIW the visualizations aren't anything special |
| [16:19:40] | `migo`: | iamlindoro..i checked under /var/log/mythtv and there is jsut a log for the backend.... |
| [16:19:57] | iamlindoro: | `migo`, so run the frontend from a terminal with -l somelogfilename |
| [16:20:11] | `migo`: | sure... :) |
| [16:20:22] | `migo`: | thank you iamlindoro |
| [16:20:29] | iamlindoro: | np |
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| [16:20:53] | iamlindoro: | !seen rodimus |
| [16:20:53] | MythLogBot: | rodimus was last seen 18 hours 1 minute 25 seconds ago |
| [16:21:11] | iamlindoro: | Guess he decided to have a real life this weekend :) |
| [16:21:18] | `migo`: | but tell me... aer you using different visualization moidules,or just wiht one ? and if wiht more, do you let them chage randomly ? |
| [16:21:57] | iamlindoro: | I don't use visualizations (or, really, Mythmusic) at all these days...b ut yes, I have used all of them |
| [16:24:04] | `migo`: | okies,.,..,. i did what you told me and could force the turning off |
| [16:24:17] | `migo`: | here is the log from it,the last line before mythtv crashsed |
| [16:24:20] | `migo`: | crashed |
| [16:24:38] | `migo`: | mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_flower.so: undefined symbol: visual_mem_malloc0 |
| [16:25:12] | `migo`: | honestly...i dont have even the slightest idea what to do wiht this info |
| [16:25:31] | iamlindoro: | `migo`, did you compile your own myth |
| [16:25:32] | iamlindoro: | ? |
| [16:25:37] | `migo`: | no |
| [16:25:44] | `migo`: | got it from the repos |
| [16:25:50] | iamlindoro: | Did you compile your own libvisual? On what distro? |
| [16:25:57] | `migo`: | opensuse 11 |
| [16:26:07] | `migo`: | mythtv 0.21 |
| [16:26:20] | iamlindoro: | "iamlindoro> Did you compile your own libvisual?" |
| [16:26:54] | `migo`: | i didnt compiled anything refering to mythtv |
| [16:27:39] | iamlindoro: | It appears to me that your Mythmusic was compiled against a different version of libvisual than that installed on your system-- not sure how you managed to get into that scenario, but I know that SuSe has always been a poor choice for myth |
| [16:28:17] | `migo`: | i will try with a differnt visualizing plugin... brb |
| [16:29:10] | cesman: | `migo`: there are three types of visualizations |
| [16:29:18] | cesman: | 1) MythMusic's own built in |
| [16:29:31] | cesman: | 2) libvisual |
| [16:29:45] | cesman: | 3) ProjectM (which depends on libvisual) |
| [16:29:47] | `migo`: | now this: mythfrontend: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libvisual-0.4/actor/actor_lv_gltest.so: undefined symbol: visual_plugin_get_params |
| [16:30:09] | iamlindoro: | `migo`, that's still all libvisual |
| [16:30:11] | cesman: | if you choose any that are in camps 2 or 3, you will have issues |
| [16:30:17] | ** `migo` listens to cesman and hopes to get a solution from him :) ** | |
| [16:30:33] | `migo`: | okay.. let me try the myth ones |
| [16:31:18] | cesman: | the solution would be to compile libvisual yourself and mythmusic (you'll need mythtv development files for this) or don't use any in camps 2 and 3 |
| [16:31:55] | cesman: | when you attempt to select which visualizations you want, MythMusic will tell you want camp they fall in.... |
| [16:32:49] | `migo`: | with the myth ones it seems to work |
| [16:33:05] | `migo`: | but they are not really "pretty" |
| [16:33:39] | `migo`: | compile libvisual by myself...... |
| [16:33:39] | iamlindoro: | `migo`, like cesman (and I) said, if you compile MythMusic and libvisual, both yourself, then it should work fine-- you have version mismatches in your installed packages |
| [16:33:46] | cesman: | 1) contribute code to make them pretty or add new pretty ones |
| [16:34:05] | cesman: | 2) see my answer above about compiling |
| [16:34:21] | iamlindoro: | Personally I think that visualizations are a waste for the non-stoner-rave-college-student crowd |
| [16:34:24] | `migo`: | im not very used to compile stuff by my own..... |
| [16:34:33] | iamlindoro: | Good time to learn! :) |
| [16:34:44] | `migo`: | can i hoep to get a tarball from somewhere for libvisual ? |
| [16:35:06] | cesman: | 3) find an opensuse forum or mailing list and see if anyone else had the problem and how they solved it |
| [16:35:48] | `migo`: | do i need to compile both,libvisual ANd mythmusic ? |
| [16:36:29] | iamlindoro: | At *least* mythmusic, but probably safer to compile both |
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| [16:37:59] | `migo`: | i get them as a tarball,yes ? |
| [16:38:24] | iamlindoro: | Better to check out with cvs/svn |
| [16:39:31] | iamlindoro: | Just make sure you check out from the right branch, names .21-fixes |
| [16:39:34] | iamlindoro: | er namely |
| [16:40:55] | cesman: | easiest way I can think of (then I've nothing else to say as I has to head out)... |
| [16:41:14] | cesman: | you _must_ have the development packages for MythTV _and_ libvisual installed |
| [16:41:30] | cesman: | like iamlindoro stated, get mythplugins from SVN |
| [16:41:37] | cesman: | cd mythplugins |
| [16:41:53] | `migo`: | i will look for it tomorrow |
| [16:41:53] | cesman: | ./configure --disable-all --enable-mythmusic |
| [16:41:56] | cesman: | make |
| [16:42:09] | `migo`: | i have everything logged what we spoke hear |
| [16:42:10] | cesman: | sudo make install |
| [16:42:13] | laga: | GreyFoxx: where is that thread? -users? |
| [16:42:29] | iamlindoro: | laga, yes, about five up from the bottom |
| [16:42:49] | iamlindoro: | latest thing said by him... asking for a fedora 8 howto |
| [16:43:04] | `migo`: | okies... thank you cesman and iamlindoro |
| [16:43:25] | cesman: | you're welcome |
| [16:43:27] | iamlindoro: | `migo`, you are welcome, good luck |
| [16:43:34] | ** cesman away ** | |
| [16:43:35] | ** mzb_d800 looks at the bottom of an empty glass ... ** | |
| [16:43:39] | cesman: | yes, good luck |
| [16:43:43] | `migo`: | but i will make images before i do this,not to destroy everything i installed the past days :) |
| [16:43:53] | `migo`: | thank you,you two :) |
| [16:44:24] | `migo`: | take care and bye |
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| [16:44:55] | ** iamlindoro really appreciates when people are courteous ** | |
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| [16:46:39] | ** laga really doesn't appreciate the humming coming from the dimmer in his new lamp ** | |
| [16:47:25] | iamlindoro: | laga, you are likely aware, but wanted to mention that build-dep is a little broken for myth on intrepid |
| [16:47:40] | iamlindoro: | the myth metapackage needs the liblame-dev updated to the new package name |
| [16:47:51] | iamlindoro: | libmp3lame-dev, I think? |
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| [16:48:38] | laga: | iamlindoro: can you file a bug report? |
| [16:48:49] | laga: | i really want to thank the guy who did that broken library transition |
| [16:49:04] | iamlindoro: | laga, Sure can, but you'll need to give me a link to where specifically you want it? |
| [16:49:28] | iamlindoro: | Just so I don't accidentally put it in the wrong place (too many ubuntu bug trackers!) |
| [16:50:53] | iamlindoro: | ah, found it, sorry |
| [16:51:03] | laga: | :) |
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| [16:55:01] | iamlindoro: | laga, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/289189 |
| [16:55:47] | daddysmu1f: | does this room help w/ lirc problems? |
| [16:55:48] | hume: | hi.... I cannot watch live TV with more than one frontend – is this as supposed to be? Got one dvb-c card in the backend |
| [16:56:01] | hume: | i mean, simultaneously |
| [16:56:21] | iamlindoro: | hume, each frontend needs a tuner for each instance of live TV |
| [16:56:55] | laga: | iamlindoro: thanks |
| [16:57:00] | iamlindoro: | laga, any time |
| [16:57:04] | hume: | is a "tuner" the same as a dvb-c-card? |
| [16:57:44] | iamlindoro: | hume, a tuner is a tuner. Cards can have single or multiple tuners. In all likelihood, your card is a single tuner. |
| [16:58:12] | hume: | ok....thx. now i get it |
| [16:59:38] | hume: | but: is it one tuner per frontend, not one tuner per channel watched? i was under the impression that I should be able to see the same channel on more than one frontend, but I cannot |
| [17:00:10] | hume: | or maybe you already answered that... |
| [17:00:18] | iamlindoro: | hume, you can in a roundabout way by going in to watch recordings and looking at the liveTV filter |
| [17:00:30] | hume: | ok |
| [17:01:20] | daddysmu1f: | I'm trying hook up my xbox dvd remote via lirc, but everytime I start lircd, it logs that it's using atiusb instead of xboxusb |
| [17:01:49] | iamlindoro: | last time I heard about that remote it *did* use the atiusb driver |
| [17:01:56] | daddysmu1f: | oh... |
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| [17:28:34] | hednod: | .... heh |
| [17:29:00] | hednod: | Video Source: cable, TV format: ATSC |
| [17:29:05] | hednod: | strange |
| [17:30:39] | hednod: | i have digital cable channels that show up as ATSC in mythtv-setup |
| [17:30:54] | hednod: | but if i add a channel manually to the digital cable reciver, i can't pick ATSC. It won't let me. |
| [17:30:57] | hednod: | WTH? |
| [17:31:05] | squish102: | does any1 have a good link on how to get myth sound working over hdmi? |
| [17:31:27] | iamlindoro: | squish102, myth doesn't know anything about HDMI audio |
| [17:31:47] | iamlindoro: | either ALSA supports it or it doesn't... and if it does, you just set it as your audio device like any other |
| [17:32:23] | squish102: | ok thanks iamlindoro, google wasnt helping and now i know why |
| [17:32:27] | iamlindoro: | or even better, set it as your ALSA default device, and the default settings ought to "just work." |
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| [17:40:58] | hednod: | I'm a little confused how mythtv assigns channels |
| [17:41:06] | hednod: | i'll see multiple channels with the same channel number |
| [17:41:14] | hednod: | but no other info to determine which sub-channel it is |
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| [17:42:31] | Anduin: | hednod: You can change the channel number in the channel editor or mythweb |
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| [17:43:50] | hednod: | Anduin: i see that. But I can only set a channel number, how do i tell it what the sub-channels are? I see multiple channels with the same channel number. And I don't mean the visual channel number. |
| [17:43:57] | hednod: | the freqid |
| [17:46:14] | hednod: | how do i tell mythtv the program # for that channel |
| [17:49:10] | Anduin: | hednod: look at dtv_multiplex |
| [17:50:20] | hednod: | i don't see that in the mythtv-setup channel editor nor the web interface, i guess i'll have to go into the database manually? |
| [17:51:32] | Anduin: | hednod: Yes, what are you trying to accomplish? For DVB stuff you will see the mplexid and serviceid set for a channel (and freqid won't matter) |
| [17:52:12] | Anduin: | hednod: The scanner should find everything leaving only channel renaming |
| [17:52:22] | hednod: | Anduin: there are some channels the scanner does not find, but exist. |
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| [17:56:03] | Anduin: | hednod: just missing subchannels? |
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| [17:59:34] | hednod: | Anduin: from what i'm seeing (of what channels others in my area have detected) there are some situations where the channel is say 100 and the first subchannel is say, 10 |
| [17:59:53] | hednod: | I wonder if there are 9 previous sub channels taht are encrypted, and that is why mythtv is skipping them? |
| [18:00:16] | hednod: | or is it encrytped at a channel level and not sub channel level |
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| [18:02:15] | Anduin: | a log of the scan would show |
| [18:04:01] | hednod: | HAH |
| [18:04:14] | hednod: | according the the channels website its 440 |
| [18:04:25] | hednod: | "Requires special HD cable box." |
| [18:04:27] | hednod: | wtf does that mean |
| [18:04:34] | hednod: | its the public television station! |
| [18:11:46] | Anduin: | Not that unusually, an HD only feed and a "discourage SDTV people from changing there" |
| [18:18:03] | hednod: | thing is |
| [18:18:18] | hednod: | they don't provide the non-hd channel |
| [18:18:20] | hednod: | just the HD one |
| [18:18:50] | hednod: | I have a HD Home Run |
| [18:19:03] | hednod: | I can get HDTV channels, and I get quite a few over my cable link |
| [18:19:21] | hednod: | but my HD Home Run does not scan above 136 channels |
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| [18:32:24] | Anduin: | 440 isn't a meaningful channel number really, that HDHR site should have which channels others in your area can get |
| [18:36:12] | riddlebox: | iamlindoro, you around, I just wanted to thank you last night for the v4lctl tip, it worked great |
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| [18:42:16] | laga: | oh, two otwins |
| [18:50:47] | hednod: | adante: the HDHR site lists channels for my zip, but HDHR does not see them |
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| [19:03:10] | wagnerrp: | 8vsb channels, or qam channels? |
| [19:04:05] | hednod: | wagnerrp: me? the 8vsb channels work fine, its the qam ones that do not all detect. |
| [19:04:26] | wagnerrp: | do you have two separate cable companies in your area? |
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| [19:04:39] | wagnerrp: | is it the unnamed channels that are not connecting? |
| [19:05:54] | hednod: | its all comcast around here now i think |
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| [19:07:44] | wagnerrp: | well its possible they may have re-arranged things since the last time silicondust did a scan |
| [19:08:05] | wagnerrp: | its possible you may be 'missing' on-demand channels that only existed at the time of the last scan |
| [19:08:18] | hednod: | right |
| [19:08:33] | wagnerrp: | if youre not getting at least the local broadcast channels, now its time to call up comcast and bitch |
| [19:08:48] | hednod: | its one perticular local broadcast channel |
| [19:09:02] | hednod: | the public television one |
| [19:09:15] | hednod: | http://www.tpt.org/program/dtv.html#resources |
| [19:09:19] | hednod: | tpt-2 and tpt-hd |
| [19:09:34] | hednod: | neither of which my hdhomerun is able to find |
| [19:09:42] | wagnerrp: | ive got half a dozen PBS channels (through two different stations) through my cable |
| [19:10:11] | wagnerrp: | if they are broadcast, and can be reasonably expected to be receivable by you, comcast is required to bounce them through the cable |
| [19:10:49] | hednod: | I can receive them over the air, but i get a lot of signal qualty drops which give me lots of glitches when watching or recording |
| [19:11:04] | hednod: | but i'm in a valley with high trees and i face the opposite direction of the station |
| [19:11:33] | hednod: | thing is, i get 70+ signal quality when i'm not experiencing thesese 1–2 second long drops to 0 |
| [19:11:44] | wagnerrp: | what kind of antenna? |
| [19:12:21] | hednod: | how do i describe it? |
| [19:12:32] | hednod: | i lost the box long ago so i don't know the classification it fits into anymore |
| [19:12:45] | wagnerrp: | bow-tie... bunny ears, loop, yagi, rooftop yagi |
| [19:13:19] | wagnerrp: | inside or outside? |
| [19:13:22] | hednod: | inside |
| [19:13:32] | hednod: | i live in a rented townhome so putting one on the roof is not possible |
| [19:13:41] | wagnerrp: | if you can almost pick it up with something you have inside, thats probably something comcast should be providing |
| [19:13:49] | hednod: | right |
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| [19:16:13] | nwidger: | hello, does anyone know of a utilities that can run the imdb script on a batch of videos instead of having to do them one at a time? |
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| [19:20:49] | iamlindoro: | riddlebox, Just got back, thank you for being thankful-- I am glad you managed to get it working-- had to step away mid-helping you last night |
| [19:24:26] | directhex: | moo |
| [19:24:40] | ** directhex is busy being ill ** | |
| [19:24:47] | directhex: | also, typing on a netbook is hard |
| [19:25:03] | laga: | get real hardware ;) |
| [19:25:16] | directhex: | laga, in bed? |
| [19:25:40] | iamlindoro: | I've had girlfriends who enjoyed bringing real hardware to bed |
| [19:26:34] | directhex: | iamlindoro, dildo support WAS added to the kernel lately... |
| [19:26:38] | directhex: | (not a joke) |
| [19:26:58] | wagnerrp: | like... force feedback support? |
| [19:27:31] | directhex: | wagnerrp, yes, but for a chip commonly used for usb teledildonics |
| [19:28:06] | iamlindoro: | Linux... inside? |
| [19:28:10] | wagnerrp: | written by that whack job who is marrying his own sex doll, no doubt |
| [19:28:48] | iamlindoro: | Speaking of embedded linux |
| [19:28:54] | iamlindoro: | I've got a million of 'em, folks |
| [19:30:45] | AndyCap_: | O_o This program is a rudimentary teledildonics application built around the finger daemon – hence bringing generations of CS undergrad innuendo full circle. |
| [19:34:43] | wagnerrp: | that would go great if it were interfaced with mythphone! |
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| [19:56:07] | trumee__: | guys, how can i setup a second backend for commflagging. I cant find the article on the wiki. |
| [19:56:26] | iamlindoro: | I'm going to release a myth plugin that quizzes you on the README file and if you fail to have read it, it will format your drive. I'll call it MythP0nwd |
| [19:56:30] | trumee__: | there was something on the wiki about this i think |
| [20:01:26] | wagnerrp: | trumee__: theres some limited program that only runs the jobqueue, rather than the full backend. thats probably more what youre looking for |
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| [20:09:52] | j-rod: | iamlindoro: seems my hybrid is slightly happier now w/2 sticks of RAM instead of 1 (running dual-channel now, faster system *and* video memory) |
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| [20:10:15] | j-rod: | got the n card into my mini now too |
| [20:10:36] | j-rod: | only crappy part is the mini only has a single antenna |
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| [20:12:14] | j-rod: | not sure yet what sort of throughput it'll do |
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| [20:16:20] | iamlindoro: | j-rod, Cool-- just tweaking mine as well-- the tearing, while annoying, is unlikely to be too apparent to anyone but me |
| [20:16:44] | iamlindoro: | My HD-PVR recording are working well also so long as I stick with VBR |
| [20:16:49] | iamlindoro: | er recordings |
| [20:17:37] | iamlindoro: | Intel xorg driver is definitely a little fussy bit it's more quirks that outright brokenness |
| [20:17:40] | iamlindoro: | than |
| [20:18:36] | iamlindoro: | certainly quieter/smaller/more attractive than the frankenbox it replaced |
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| [20:22:38] | j-rod: | streaming a (std-def) movie to the mini over the hybrid's card just fine right now |
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| [20:29:39] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: what container are you using for your rips, mp4? |
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| [20:30:16] | iamlindoro: | rips of what? I only have Blu-ray and HD-DVD on my system these days, and they stay in their original containers, m2ts and EVO |
| [20:30:35] | dustybin: | how many gigs do they take up? |
| [20:30:50] | iamlindoro: | 20–35 per movie |
| [20:30:55] | dustybin: | fekkin hell |
| [20:31:38] | dustybin: | this is where one needs terrabytes of storage |
| [20:32:25] | dustybin: | my .mkv rips use around 1.0 – 1.5 gigs, SD FTW |
| [20:32:50] | dustybin: | and thats H264 + AC3 ! |
| [20:33:20] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, only if you have so little space that you need to reduce size. I have plenty of space, why should I not enjoy my movies in their original quality? |
| [20:34:13] | dustybin: | yep i agree |
| [20:34:30] | dustybin: | i dont like original with all the menu crap on dvds |
| [20:34:52] | iamlindoro: | I don't save the menu, 20–35 is film only, 50 if you want the extras |
| [20:35:02] | dustybin: | and mythtv wasnt any good at playing back my .isos so i had to rip them |
| [20:35:13] | dustybin: | ok |
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| [20:35:26] | tmiw_: | hi all |
| [20:35:38] | tmiw_: | So I just installed a PVR-150 as my 2nd tuner card (for analog cable) |
| [20:35:43] | tmiw_: | and I'm only getting black. |
| [20:36:01] | tmiw_: | initially the firmware wasn't there so I added it and reloaded the ivtv module |
| [20:36:09] | tmiw_: | and now /dev/video0's working but no video |
| [20:36:18] | tmiw_: | what else should I look at? |
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| [20:46:20] | dustybin: | 1 week without smoking :) |
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| [20:55:02] | styelz: | legend |
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| [21:11:24] | gwyo: | is there a way I can set a button my remote to go to the root menu on a DVD? |
| [21:12:58] | gwyo: | anyone? |
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| [21:15:24] | dustybin: | gwyo: depends what player your using |
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| [21:16:27] | gwyo: | dustybin, i think mplayer, whatever's the default in mythbuntu |
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| [21:16:49] | dustybin: | mplayer doesnt support dvd menus? |
| [21:17:19] | gwyo: | that sucks! can I switch the built in player to VLC or something? |
| [21:18:09] | gwyo: | wait, it does go to the menu at the beginning but i can't figure out how to get back to the menu while watching a movie |
| [21:19:12] | dustybin: | why dont you try using mythtvs 'Internal' player |
| [21:19:31] | dustybin: | everything will be mapped to your remote if you use that |
| [21:20:04] | gwyo: | dustybin, how do I do that |
| [21:20:21] | dustybin: | on the frontend, go to settings |
| [21:20:38] | dustybin: | media settings > video settings > player settings |
| [21:20:48] | gwyo: | ok, i'm there |
| [21:20:49] | dustybin: | and type in 'Internal' as the player |
| [21:21:06] | gwyo: | oh, it is Internal for "DVD Player Command" |
| [21:21:16] | dustybin: | already? |
| [21:21:20] | gwyo: | yeah, weird |
| [21:21:21] | gwyo: | but when I press menu on the remote, it doesn't go to the menu |
| [21:21:38] | dustybin: | try pressing back arrow |
| [21:21:42] | dustybin: | or exit |
| [21:21:51] | gwyo: | to get to the menu? |
| [21:21:55] | dustybin: | try |
| [21:23:10] | gwyo: | dustybin, didn't work |
| [21:23:35] | gwyo: | is there a file I can edit somewhere? |
| [21:24:05] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, as I've told your four times this week, mplayer does DVD menus so long as you have compiled libdvdnav in |
| [21:24:38] | iamlindoro: | gwyo, While watching a DVD with the Internal player, bring up the menu and choose the "DVD Root Menu" option |
| [21:25:27] | gwyo: | iamlindoro, how do I bring up the menu? |
| [21:25:38] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: most distros dont have that compiled in as default, debian doesnt |
| [21:25:48] | iamlindoro: | gwyo, by pressing M, or whatever key on your remote that is mapped to the M key |
| [21:25:48] | gwyo: | iamlindoro, is that if I'm using mplayer? |
| [21:26:00] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, who cares what some packager has done? |
| [21:26:04] | iamlindoro: | gwyo, Internal player |
| [21:26:22] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, and you are wrong, by the way, most distro's leave the native mplayer libdvdnav in |
| [21:26:31] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: the typical joe bloggs will be using the default package mplayer |
| [21:26:32] | gwyo: | iamlindoro, ok, that works but is there a way I can map "M" to my IR remote? |
| [21:26:37] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, so stop saying stupid ignorant shit when you don't knwo anything |
| [21:26:58] | iamlindoro: | gwyo, yes, edit your ~/.mythtv/lircrc |
| [21:27:06] | iamlindoro: | gwyo, and read through the myth wiki lirc pages |
| [21:27:08] | dustybin: | iamlindoro: Remember you told me to tell you when you were acting rudely and insensitively? Remember that? You're doing it right now... |
| [21:27:21] | Vauge: | is there anywhere other than the official site where I can get MythDora? |
| [21:27:31] | gwyo: | didn't mean to start and argument here, guys |
| [21:27:34] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, you must have made up your own little meme... I don't *care* if you think I'm rude to you. You *deserve* it when you're being an idiot |
| [21:27:39] | gwyo: | but thanks for the tips, iamlindoro and dustybin |
| [21:28:06] | iamlindoro: | gwyo, It's not an argument, gwyo, dustybin manages to spin people off to the incorrect zone any time he talks-- this is what happens when newbies dispense advice |
| [21:28:26] | ** j-rod runs away screaming... (well, only because its dinner time, but...) ** | |
| [21:28:57] | iamlindoro: | dustybin, for reference, and I'll link you to today's log any time you say that again, *do not* tell me any time you think I am being rude-- I promise you I don't care. |
| [21:30:24] | dustybin: | what a bloody nice chap |
| [21:31:17] | Vauge: | hello!?! |
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| [21:32:46] | gwyo: | if I edit the lircrc file, do I need to restart lirc to make the changes into effect |
| [21:32:53] | iamlindoro: | no, just the frontend |
| [21:33:01] | gwyo: | thanks |
| [21:33:05] | iamlindoro: | you are welcome |
| [21:34:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | Vauge: Not that I know of, and no need to be rude... There may be tons of people logged into the channel, but many are here 24x7, and idle at least part of that time! |
| [21:34:14] | Vauge: | is there an HDTV card that will just work out of the box? I´ve been trying to set-up a plextor usb device and its making me irritable |
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| [21:34:53] | iamlindoro: | Depends on your distro, but the HDHomeRun, HD-5500, or a Hauppauge HVR-1250 all ought to work in pretty much any modern distro without any assistance |
| [21:35:18] | Vauge: | didn´t mean to be rude, I´m haven´t used x-chat before and I didn´t know if I needed to be voiced in this room or what |
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| [21:40:07] | gwyo: | iamlindoro, sorry to keep pestering, but I edited the lircrc file and put in Button = Menu, config = M, and it doesn't work |
| [21:40:20] | gwyo: | do I need to do "DVD Menu", that's whta it says on the remote itself |
| [21:40:46] | iamlindoro: | gwyo, Is the name of the button you are pressing "Menu" as defined in your lircd.conf? |
| [21:40:58] | gwyo: | let me look... |
| [21:41:00] | fuxxy: | I think I just got my VFD/LCD on my Antec Fusion V2 case working, but now I have looks like ñññññññññ scrolling across the display |
| [21:41:02] | iamlindoro: | open a terminal, run "irw" and press the button in question |
| [21:41:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | gwyo: run 'irw' from a shell, press that button, and the name it displays is whtat you need to put into the lircdrc file... |
| [21:41:12] | iamlindoro: | what does it call it? that's what you should set the button= as |
| [21:41:50] | gwyo: | i get this: 000000037ff07bdb 00 DVD mceusb |
| [21:41:52] | gwyo: | so, DVD? |
| [21:41:56] | J-e-f-f-A: | yes |
| [21:42:02] | gwyo: | nice, thanks guys |
| [21:42:31] | J-e-f-f-A: | gwyo: Do you have a button that's just "Menu" on the remote? |
| [21:42:52] | gwyo: | J-e-f-f-A, no, just a DVD Menu |
| [21:43:04] | gwyo: | it was some cheap remote I bought on newegg |
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| [21:44:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | gwyo: Ok, then that button is now your 'mythtv menu' button... it will become used quite a bit... |
| [21:44:24] | Anduin: | gwyo: the green "Home" button can make a nice menu button as well |
| [21:44:32] | gwyo: | sweet |
| [21:45:30] | J-e-f-f-A: | gwyo: Yeah, usually the 'windows' button is mapped to the "M" button for Mythtv. |
| [21:45:32] | mrintegr1ty: | lo all, I am building a mythtv htpc but was wondering about optimising boot performance.. how do you guys normally do it? Was thinking of a small and cheap SSD to keep the OS on but can't find cheap ssds that are still better performance |
| [21:45:45] | gwyo: | J-e-f-f-A, ah, i see |
| [21:45:54] | tmiw_: | neat, got it working :D |
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| [21:47:20] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, just start turning off services until you get acceptable boot times, and look into setting up suspend to RAM so that you only ever actually reboot once in a blue moon anyway |
| [21:47:47] | iamlindoro: | 8–10 second startup from suspended-to-RAM on my new frontend |
| [21:47:48] | tmiw_: | note: correct firmware helps |
| [21:48:10] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: would prefer to power off completely (we are a very "green" family here :)) so perhaps hibernate is an option |
| [21:48:22] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, yep, hibernate would be a good option for you then |
| [21:48:44] | mrintegr1ty: | ah well, that was easy :D |
| [21:48:45] | mrintegr1ty: | thanks |
| [21:48:51] | iamlindoro: | note that the power spent refreshing the RAM is obscenely minimal, so you don't have to feel too guilty if you go that way |
| [21:48:58] | iamlindoro: | (suspend) |
| [21:49:05] | mrintegr1ty: | haha |
| [21:49:20] | mrintegr1ty: | how much difference in speed between hibernate / suspend might there be? |
| [21:49:37] | iamlindoro: | Well, hibernate would take a bit longer, but still much faster than full boot |
| [21:49:42] | mrintegr1ty: | cool |
| [21:49:51] | mrintegr1ty: | is it reliable after multiple suspends/hibernates? |
| [21:49:58] | at0m|c: | mrintegr1ty, using hibernate, try to avoid lots of RAM if you can live without. booting from hibernate then reading 2gb of data from disk isnt /that/ fast |
| [21:50:13] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, tough to tell, suspend/hibernate is one of those "no such thing as a one size fits all" things |
| [21:50:14] | mrintegr1ty: | at0m|c: ah, good point |
| [21:50:43] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the new frontend I installed yesterday had working suspend and hibernate "out of the box" with not a single tweak |
| [21:51:13] | mrintegr1ty: | mind if i show you guys the mb that is going in? you might know if suspend/hibernate will work OK on it |
| [21:51:15] | iamlindoro: | and stable through multiple suspend/restarts. The only thing I need to play with tonight is wake from remote |
| [21:51:27] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, I truthfully probably won't know at all, but I can look |
| [21:51:30] | mrintegr1ty: | cool |
| [21:51:32] | mrintegr1ty: | http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/motherb . . . overview.htm |
| [21:51:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | iamlindoro: was that your new little dell box? ;-) |
| [21:51:51] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A, yeah, really pleasantly surprised so far |
| [21:51:58] | mrintegr1ty: | afaik, all that hardware is very well supported with recent kernels |
| [21:52:23] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, the only thing I can tell you is taht with intel hardware you probably have the best chance of having a good, OOTB working ACPI setup |
| [21:52:32] | mrintegr1ty: | excellent! |
| [21:52:59] | mrintegr1ty: | ordered this tv too, its being delivered next week: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Samsung-LE40A656/ |
| [21:53:03] | mrintegr1ty: | can't wait! |
| [21:53:10] | mrintegr1ty: | been checking it out in the store, looks great |
| [21:53:30] | iamlindoro: | Looks nice |
| [21:53:36] | mrintegr1ty: | do you guys run your own myth setup or use a pre configured thing like mythbuntu? |
| [21:53:55] | fuxxy: | I run my own on gentoo |
| [21:53:57] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, Everyone here has a different approach-- I actually have a combination of both in my house |
| [21:54:02] | fuxxy: | but to each their own |
| [21:54:03] | mrintegr1ty: | ok |
| [21:54:36] | mrintegr1ty: | fuxxy: i run gentoo on all my own systems except my gf's which runs ubuntu for her ease of use.. so thinking I will go with ubuntu on the htpc for the same reason |
| [21:54:59] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, if you've never set up a myth box, tehre is *no* shame in setting up Mythbuntu or the like... I've been doing it for years and I still thin that mythbuntu is one of the best ways to set up a Myth box |
| [21:55:12] | iamlindoro: | and the proof is in the pudding, my backend system runs mythbuntu |
| [21:55:17] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: i like to do things from scrath |
| [21:55:19] | mrintegr1ty: | scratch |
| [21:55:33] | mrintegr1ty: | will see |
| [21:55:50] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, Depends on your knowledge level, really-- What is done for you automatically in Mythbuntu tweakwise could easily take you a year or so to laern to do from scratch |
| [21:55:58] | iamlindoro: | and that's myth-specific, not linux |
| [21:56:02] | mrintegr1ty: | ok |
| [21:56:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | mrintegr1ty: I run a combination too... mostly Fedora Core & compiled from source lately... But MythDora on one frontend. |
| [21:56:24] | fuxxy: | iamlindoro, i"m considering using mythbuntu when i redo my frontend/backend situation |
| [21:57:02] | iamlindoro: | fuxxy, It's pretty good stuff, just takes so much of the initial tweaking and does it for you, then leaves all the "fun" personalizing/tweaking to you-- a bit time saver |
| [21:57:05] | iamlindoro: | big time saver |
| [21:57:13] | mrintegr1ty: | when it comes to myth i know nothing.. but unless it's harder to do than setting up nagios/ flashing u-boot / alfresco (suprisingly hard to do) then i will do it from scratch.. probably |
| [21:58:02] | mrintegr1ty: | well, there is something to be said for out of the box functionality thats for sure |
| [21:58:18] | fuxxy: | iamlindoro, I'm concerned with OS boot times, is it any more responsive? |
| [21:58:20] | mrintegr1ty: | it might keep my gf off my back for a while if she can use it after an hour instead of 3 days :d |
| [21:58:51] | iamlindoro: | fuxxy, It's slightly faster than regular Ubuntu out of the box, but you can remove services and tweak as usual to speed things up |
| [21:59:23] | mrintegr1ty: | something i really don't know about is hd stuff |
| [21:59:58] | mrintegr1ty: | i know that some blue ray discs have known keys but is that only the older ones? |
| [22:00:17] | mrintegr1ty: | whats the options for hd content with ubuntu/myth? |
| [22:00:36] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, there is no decryption of BD+ exncrypted disks (most of the ones released now) in linux whatsoever |
| [22:00:47] | mrintegr1ty: | damn |
| [22:00:56] | tmiw_: | new issue! |
| [22:01:01] | tmiw_: | video/audio is fast now. |
| [22:01:12] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: i guess it will come |
| [22:01:14] | mrintegr1ty: | eventually |
| [22:01:39] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, You can rip Blu-ray and Hd-DVD in windows and move the movies to linux, however (which is what I do) and of course there is broadcast HD which plays fine |
| [22:01:50] | mrintegr1ty: | great |
| [22:02:07] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, keep in mind that most Blu-ray disks also use audio codecs that are only starting to be used in linux too, so each needs a custom command line to play |
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| [22:02:36] | mrintegr1ty: | shit, thats something i completely forgot to think about for this box.. broadcast tv! can anyone reccomend a good tuner card? |
| [22:02:44] | daddysmurf: | where could I find an example lircrc file? |
| [22:02:48] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, for what format? For .se I assume DVB-T or C? |
| [22:02:55] | mrintegr1ty: | no idea |
| [22:03:04] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: it's just free stuff i get through the wall |
| [22:03:06] | mrintegr1ty: | :P |
| [22:03:11] | mrintegr1ty: | 3 channels free or something |
| [22:03:17] | mrintegr1ty: | don'thave a tv yet, till next weekend |
| [22:03:21] | mrintegr1ty: | student apartment |
| [22:03:25] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, you'll need to figure out which you need, then you can check the wiki at www.linuxtv.org |
| [22:03:49] | mrintegr1ty: | cool thanks! |
| [22:03:51] | iamlindoro: | may just be plain old analog PAL Tv (yuck!) in which case it'll all be SD and a PVR-150 from Hauppauge is a nice choice |
| [22:03:52] | daddysmurf: | where could I find an example lircrc file? |
| [22:04:01] | iamlindoro: | daddysmurf, do not repeat yourself |
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| [22:04:09] | iamlindoro: | if someone wants to answer your question, they will |
| [22:04:16] | mrintegr1ty: | can a vga cable display full hd content? |
| [22:04:48] | daddysmurf: | mrintegr1ty: vga can go way beyond hd |
| [22:04:59] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, yes, but you'll want to use DVI or HDMI if you can |
| [22:05:03] | mrintegr1ty: | so whats the point in dvi / hdmi then? |
| [22:05:17] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, much much cleaner signal, audio included with some HDMI, etc. |
| [22:05:23] | mrintegr1ty: | ah |
| [22:05:24] | mrintegr1ty: | cool |
| [22:05:37] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, you want to use the digital inputs if you can, the signal is cleaner and it's easier to set up xorg, too |
| [22:05:43] | daddysmurf: | mrintegr1ty: dvi can carry analog, digital, or both down 1 cable, hdmi has audio in the standard |
| [22:06:05] | mrintegr1ty: | ok thank you guys |
| [22:06:08] | at0m|c: | daddysmurf, checked http://lirc.org ? |
| [22:06:42] | daddysmurf: | at0m|c: I've looked, but it explains a format, but I don't quite understand it |
| [22:07:06] | XLV: | mrintegr1ty, another pro for hdmi is that if you have more than one source, you can get a hdmi av receiver to handle both multi channel sound and sources switching |
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| [22:07:26] | iamlindoro: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Mythtv-lircrc-Dapper |
| [22:08:01] | daddysmurf: | thank you much iamlindoro |
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| [22:08:14] | iamlindoro: | or, for the ultimate in simplicity, if you are running ubuntu or mythbuntu, apt-get install mythbuntu-lirc-generator |
| [22:08:15] | mrintegr1ty: | brushing on the forbidden here, just out of idle curiosity, do many bd movies get uploaded to those illegal file shareing sites i heard such terrible things about on the net in their full hd form? or do the terrible feinds tend to encode them to a non hd format? |
| [22:08:30] | iamlindoro: | then run it and you'll get an auto-lircrc for any remote definied in lircd.conf |
| [22:08:43] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, they are substantially squished |
| [22:08:50] | iamlindoro: | 40 Mbit -> 10 Mbit usually |
| [22:08:51] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: shame |
| [22:09:19] | daddysmurf: | mrintegr1ty: pretty hard to find much out there, I'm having a hard time finding trailers that are worth showing people |
| [22:09:42] | mrintegr1ty: | doh :/ |
| [22:09:51] | iamlindoro: | daddysmurf, you are welcome-- it won't help you much for your specific remote but it may give you a better idea of the format |
| [22:10:05] | mrintegr1ty: | how does a standard DVD look on a full hd tv? |
| [22:10:15] | daddysmurf: | iamlindoro: it's fine, much better than I've been finding |
| [22:10:20] | mrintegr1ty: | thats something i never understood, i though dvd was really high quality anyway |
| [22:10:38] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, looks okay, but pretty "soft"... made worse the larger the television, too |
| [22:10:51] | mrintegr1ty: | hmm |
| [22:10:59] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, DVD is 720x480 or 720x576 @ 9 Mbit MPEG-2, pretty low res |
| [22:11:20] | iamlindoro: | When your TV is 6 times the res+.... Yeah, soft. |
| [22:11:40] | iamlindoro: | but not that big a deal, you'll still like it, promise ;) |
| [22:11:59] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: haha, cool :D |
| [22:12:15] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: u use anydvd HD? |
| [22:12:15] | squish102: | if i can get hdmi sound by using the command: mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.3 how do i translate that into mythtv settings? |
| [22:12:22] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, yes, I do |
| [22:12:29] | mrintegr1ty: | so it works then, not a con |
| [22:12:44] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, yes, works really well, they update multiple times a month so that all known disks are supported |
| [22:13:06] | iamlindoro: | James Bond 6 pack came out Tuesday, 5 of them worked out of the box, support for the 6th was added Thursday |
| [22:13:09] | mrintegr1ty: | awesome. just wish this info on how it's done would become public knowledge |
| [22:13:14] | mrintegr1ty: | wow |
| [22:14:14] | iamlindoro: | squish102, ALSA:hw:1,2 |
| [22:14:17] | iamlindoro: | er1,3 |
| [22:15:01] | squish102: | thanks, is it better to do that than try figure out how to make it the default alsa device (which i failed at already) |
| [22:15:19] | iamlindoro: | That will be fine |
| [22:15:54] | squish102: | output device and mixer? |
| [22:16:24] | iamlindoro: | Yes |
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| [22:16:37] | squish102: | thx |
| [22:16:40] | iamlindoro: | np |
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| [22:19:28] | Vauge: | any idea why the HD-5500 is so much more expensive than the Haupauge HVR-1250 |
| [22:19:44] | iamlindoro: | Vauge, It's been around a while longer, Hauppauge also has economies of scale |
| [22:20:13] | iamlindoro: | HD-5500 was one of the first ATSC tuners for linux, and they capitalized on the "we don't respect the broadcast flag" thing... now there are many but their price has never come down |
| [22:20:55] | Vauge: | yeah I seem to remember using Haupauge cards in the mid 90s |
| [22:21:04] | dta948: | anyone have a good how-to for running Mythtv with DirecTV? |
| [22:21:08] | iamlindoro: | The HVR-1250 is pretty new, Hauppauge makes a bajillion of them so they are made at lower cost, but it's just as good a card |
| [22:21:16] | dta948: | what are the issues I may run into? |
| [22:21:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | dta948: umm... with??? |
| [22:22:10] | iamlindoro: | dta948, just need to be educated about the fact that you will need one Set top box per thing you intend to record/watch at once, and that you can only capture the analog outputs (ie, not digital) |
| [22:22:56] | iamlindoro: | ie for three frontends running Live TV at onceplus a recording going on in the background, you would need four STbs and four capture cards in your system |
| [22:23:04] | dta948: | so one set top box allows me to watch one channel and record another? |
| [22:23:15] | iamlindoro: | no, one STB allows you to watch OR record one thing |
| [22:23:20] | dta948: | gotcha |
| [22:23:29] | iamlindoro: | one STB = one signal, regardless of whether you're watching it live or recording it |
| [22:23:40] | iamlindoro: | even if the STB has dual tuners... it's still one as far as myth is concerned |
| [22:23:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | dta948: Ah, sorry, missed the first part of your question... I have Dish network, with 2 STB's into Hauppague PVR-500 – can record two things at once. |
| [22:23:59] | mrintegr1ty: | looks like the is public work on bd+ taking place with some sort of progress: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=bbab5 . . . 1&page=2 |
| [22:24:16] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, yes, we've discussed that before-- those guys are hard at work on it |
| [22:24:30] | iamlindoro: | they're still a very long way from a solution, but they are really making good progress |
| [22:24:59] | dta948: | ok.. so order stb's from DirecTV for each watch/record |
| [22:25:10] | iamlindoro: | dta948, plus a capture card for each STB |
| [22:25:15] | iamlindoro: | analog only |
| [22:26:00] | iamlindoro: | ideally a hardware encoder a la a PVR-150, a PVR-500, etc. |
| [22:26:02] | dta948: | what is considered digital? HDTV? |
| [22:26:19] | dta948: | I think I have the pvr500 |
| [22:26:27] | iamlindoro: | digital is digital and not always HDTV, but HDTV is always digital |
| [22:26:53] | iamlindoro: | There *are* analog outputs capable of HD (component) |
| [22:27:11] | iamlindoro: | but in terms of transmission, HDTV is always digital, SDTV can be either |
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| [22:27:24] | dta948: | is Sunday Ticket considered digital? or will I be able to record that also? |
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| [22:27:41] | iamlindoro: | dta948, You can capture anything you're subscribed to |
| [22:27:49] | iamlindoro: | dta948, ALL DirecTV is digital transmission |
| [22:27:59] | iamlindoro: | It's just that you will have to capture analog OUTPUTS of your STB |
| [22:28:13] | dta948: | ohhhhhh I see what cha mean now |
| [22:28:23] | iamlindoro: | which are all SD *except* for the component outputs (YPbPr) |
| [22:28:38] | iamlindoro: | you can only capture YPbPr with the REALLY brand new Hauppauge HD-PVR |
| [22:28:56] | iamlindoro: | which has only alpha support in linux and myth, and which won't be in a *released* version of myth until the next one |
| [22:29:11] | wagnerrp: | well theres some pinnacle card which captures component, however it is limited to 480i |
| [22:29:17] | dta948: | a friend of me gave me a hauppauge card.. I think it is the pvr500 |
| [22:29:33] | iamlindoro: | dta948, The PVR-500 is a nice, dual analog capture card (would work with two STBs) |
| [22:29:37] | iamlindoro: | but SD only |
| [22:29:52] | wagnerrp: | the 500 is effectively two 150s on the same board |
| [22:29:59] | wagnerrp: | the system even sees it as such |
| [22:30:13] | dta948: | ok.. so 2 stb's for the pvr500 |
| [22:30:17] | iamlindoro: | yup |
| [22:30:44] | wagnerrp: | hopefully you have the daughter card for the 500? |
| [22:30:49] | dta948: | yep |
| [22:30:58] | iamlindoro: | If you can limp along until Myth .22 comes out, there will be support for the HD-PVR (and a fair number of us are already doing testing/bug chasing with it)adn you can capture your HD channels too |
| [22:31:04] | wagnerrp: | ok, you want to capture over svideo for best quality |
| [22:31:42] | dta948: | ok |
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| [22:36:40] | J-e-f-f-A: | dta948: Does your DirectTV receiver have a serial port on the back? |
| [22:37:28] | dta948: | ummmmm thats a good question... Let me check.. brb |
| [22:37:51] | wagnerrp: | similiarly, does your computer have a serial port? |
| [22:38:40] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A, DirecTV can be done through USB AFAIK |
| [22:38:45] | iamlindoro: | and all the recent boxes have USB |
| [22:39:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | lucky bums... I have to use IR blasters... :-( |
| [22:39:17] | iamlindoro: | DTV Box->USB->USB/Serial Adapter->Gender Changer->USB/Serial Adapter->Computer IIRC |
| [22:39:36] | iamlindoro: | Which isn't "USB control" strictly speaking, but that's what *they* call it |
| [22:39:52] | wagnerrp: | so its just serial over usb |
| [22:39:55] | iamlindoro: | yep |
| [22:41:33] | iamlindoro: | brb |
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| [22:44:51] | dta948: | no serial or usb on my stb's |
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| [22:44:59] | wagnerrp: | firewire? |
| [22:45:25] | iamlindoro: | which STB? |
| [22:45:32] | dta948: | nope |
| [22:45:44] | dta948: | I have an older Hughes and a Philips |
| [22:45:50] | iamlindoro: | ah |
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| [22:46:54] | iamlindoro: | Ha, take that, Xorg |
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| [22:49:32] | dta948: | yeah I have older stb's |
| [22:50:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | dta948: so you'll probably have to use IR blasters too... ;-) |
| [22:51:19] | dta948: | yeah |
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| [22:54:56] | iamlindoro: | Damn, I am REALLY psyched to see Quantum of Solace |
| [22:55:35] | dustybin: | live and let die is my old time bond favourite |
| [22:56:20] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: looks like there is real progress with bd+ (just finished reading that thread lol) who knows, maybe a couple of more months will see the beginning of the final end of bd+ |
| [22:57:03] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, a few months at least-- but even then, the keys of each new disk will need to be broken, there won't be a "one size fits all" solution for BD+ |
| [22:57:30] | mrintegr1ty: | iamlindoro: according to that thread, once the foundation is laid breaking new keys should be fairly trivial |
| [22:57:45] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, Whomever said that in the thread was wrong |
| [22:58:19] | squish102: | any1 know with mythbuntu (xfce) where i would find the command that starts mythfrondend automatically? |
| [22:58:23] | mrintegr1ty: | it's the same scheme though. |
| [22:58:26] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, it'll be trivial comparitively speaking (to creating the method in the first place) but BD+ is very clever-- it allows for the code to patch itself and for new versions of BD+ disks to close the holes opened by the old ones |
| [22:58:35] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, no, that's what I'm telling you-- it's not. |
| [22:58:37] | mrintegr1ty: | ok |
| [22:58:51] | squish102: | and after i have that fixed, i think i am calling it a day! |
| [22:59:54] | iamlindoro: | mrintegr1ty, it's not like CSS where once you have the decryption method it's broken-- BD+ allows for the whole VM to be totally different from one version to the next-- it's a *pain* to deal with. The good news as *existing* disks get broken they can't make those stop working |
| [23:00:12] | iamlindoro: | one a given disk is defeated, that's that forever. |
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| [23:05:40] | mrintegr1ty: | ok |
| [23:05:44] | mrintegr1ty: | that explains it :) |
| [23:06:40] | mrintegr1ty: | any idea if anydvd hd would run on windows under qemu/xen/etc? can it operate on an disk image or does it require the drive? |
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| [23:06:56] | mrintegr1ty: | sorry, im getting fairly off topic here now |
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| [23:07:02] | iamlindoro: | It will work in VMWare |
| [23:07:10] | iamlindoro: | That's all I've tested it in (as that's what I run it in) |
| [23:07:21] | mrintegr1ty: | great, should work under kvm then |
| [23:07:22] | iamlindoro: | it is substantially slower, but good enough to get a few disks done per evening |
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| [23:07:35] | mrintegr1ty: | cool |
| [23:08:35] | wagnerrp: | (having never owned a hardware DVR) how much lag is there when changing channels? |
| [23:09:15] | wagnerrp: | changing channels on a hardware DVR |
| [23:09:23] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, My folks have a Dish DVR, seems like 1–2 seconds |
| [23:09:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: Yep, that's about right sometimes 2–3 seconds or more... |
| [23:10:26] | wagnerrp: | so mythtv at ~3 seconds on my PVRs really isnt that bad |
| [23:10:42] | wagnerrp: | especially considering the windows software took well over a second to just change channels |
| [23:10:55] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, people are complainy bitches |
| [23:11:00] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: Nope, not bad. I ran with a Dish 7200 PVR as one of my tuners for a LONG time... |
| [23:11:11] | iamlindoro: | (I assume we are talking about the -users/-dev thread) |
| [23:11:29] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the 'what other people tell me about cc' |
| [23:12:54] | wagnerrp: | its just people moving from an analog tv to mythtv, and not liking what they find |
| [23:13:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | obviously they never used satelite then... even normal dish receivers take 1–2 secs to change channels most of the time. |
| [23:15:03] | iamlindoro: | J-e-f-f-A, This guy is a piece of work-- on top of being a sat thief he talks about how his l33t FTA receiver gets 1 second channel changes while recording-- which may or may not be BS but he's still an asshole |
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| [23:17:06] | Coded1: | I have a Mythbuntu box set up with a SB Audigy2 SPDIF connected to my surround sound the drivers appear to be loaded and i have unmuted the iec958 optical and have tried playing a mp3 or ac3 file via mplayer but no sound, here my lspci, lsmod and aplay -l, they all show the Audigy2 http://pastebin.com/m275ede80 |
| [23:17:38] | Coded1: | anyone else had a similar problem? |
| [23:17:41] | Coded1: | :D |
| [23:18:15] | iamlindoro: | Coded1, did you play the ac3 file with -ac hwac3 in mplayer? |
| [23:18:48] | Coded1: | just tried it |
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| [23:19:12] | Coded1: | that worked |
| [23:19:14] | Coded1: | :) |
| [23:19:39] | Coded1: | ty |
| [23:19:42] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [23:20:58] | Coded1: | mp3 wont play though |
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| [23:21:31] | iamlindoro: | well it wouldn't, hwac3 is for hardware passthrough for your receiver to process it |
| [23:21:44] | iamlindoro: | sounds like your ALSA config is messed up |
| [23:22:13] | Coded1: | do you know where that is ? |
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| [23:22:31] | iamlindoro: | -ao alsa:iec958 |
| [23:22:35] | iamlindoro: | try that with your mp3 |
| [23:22:44] | ** tmiw_ remotely kicks ivtvdriver.org :( ** | |
| [23:23:06] | iamlindoro: | Coded1, Depends on your driver, and is off-topic for this channel, really-- if you are seeking help with mplayer, you really need to do it in #mplayer |
| [23:23:42] | Coded1: | its really mythbuntu but I am using mplayer to test the sound |
| [23:23:57] | iamlindoro: | we don't support mythbuntu (or any entire distro here) either |
| [23:24:01] | iamlindoro: | #mythbuntu |
| [23:24:13] | wagnerrp: | Coded1: IIRC, the digital output on the Audigy2 is not really spdif |
| [23:24:16] | iamlindoro: | or #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [23:24:29] | Coded1: | thanks for the help though at least i have narrowed it down |
| [23:24:35] | wagnerrp: | you have to run it through some other piece of hardware to use it |
| [23:24:51] | wagnerrp: | unless youre using the 5.25" bay, or external box |
| [23:25:20] | wagnerrp: | although it may just be that its a 1/8" jack rather than the normal jack |
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| [23:26:44] | iamlindoro: | Gah, I can nenver remember what I need to do to get the mceusb to do wake-from-suspend |
| [23:27:01] | wagnerrp: | go into the bios, and enable wake on usb |
| [23:27:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | ^^ my mohterboard dosn't have a wake on usb setting... :-( |
| [23:27:26] | wagnerrp: | possibly flip a jumper on the board to provide +5VSB to the USB ports |
| [23:28:43] | wagnerrp: | although if this is the Dell, there probably are no jumpers, as youre not supposed to open it |
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| [23:28:53] | J-e-f-f-A: | ... only 'wake on KB' or "wake on Mouse"... which neither works for the MCE USB... doh! |
| [23:29:15] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp, naw, it's pretty easily user-opened/modified |
| [23:29:23] | iamlindoro: | one screw and the side pops off |
| [23:29:47] | iamlindoro: | RAM, HDD, Optical all pretty easily accessible |
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| [23:30:52] | tominglis: | hey, i just installed mythbuntu 8.04, but i can't get the backend setup to connect to my mysql database |
| [23:31:16] | tominglis: | the detault password is mythtv. i have tried that, tried the password i typed in during setup, and left it blank |
| [23:31:29] | tominglis: | but i am unable to connect, do you have any suggestions? |
| [23:31:39] | ** iamlindoro goes off to test suspend lotsa times, chooses not to inflict that on the channel ** | |
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| [23:35:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | tominglis: iirc, ubuntu sets a random password for mysql – it's in a file on the system, a little googling should turn it up... |
| [23:35:47] | wagnerrp: | considering mythtv needs to know what the password is, you should try looking for a mysql.txt |
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| [23:36:10] | wagnerrp: | ~/.mythtv/mysql.txt and /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt are likely places |
| [23:38:41] | tominglis: | hey i found it in the latter |
| [23:39:00] | tominglis: | weird, i don't remember having to find that when i installed this last time, is that new in 0.21? |
| [23:39:27] | wagnerrp: | has nothing to do with mythtv, mythbuntu is its own beast |
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