| Sunday, October 19th, 2008, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:07] | Dagmar: | "I'd have no problem if you snooped on cell calls until you turned blue." <-- this would be utilizing the cell phones of other people without their permission. |
| [00:00:14] | jams: | jblack & Dagmar this conversation has nothing todo with Mythtv please take it someplace else |
| [00:00:22] | jblack: | Again, I think the airwaves are private. |
| [00:00:25] | jblack: | Pardon, public. |
| [00:00:38] | Dagmar: | jams: No problem. I was about to drop him in the ignore list for being unable to form a coherent argument anyway |
| [00:01:04] | jblack: | That's a good idea. |
| [00:01:29] | jblack: | Ok, jams. What about mythtv would you care to discuss/ |
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| [00:01:59] | jblack: | Surely you'd like it to be about something less tangental than the philosophy of signal reception. |
| [00:03:03] | jams: | Dagmar- so do you ever take people out of the ignore list? |
| [00:03:10] | Dagmar: | Nope. |
| [00:03:19] | jams: | heh |
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| [00:03:42] | Dagmar: | That would only invite more of whatever it was I put 'em in there to begin with. |
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| [00:04:56] | jblack: | jams: cmon. I put asside an interesting conversation because you asked. What shall we discuss now? |
| [00:08:52] | jams: | jblack- if you have something directly related to mythtv, go ahead and chat away. |
| [00:09:54] | jblack: | Ok, I think mythtv should have a qam decryptor. |
| [00:11:03] | jblack: | I don't think it'll ever happen though. |
| [00:11:10] | iamlindoro_: | jblack, I think part of jams' original request was because it was headed towards off-limits discussion for this room |
| [00:11:18] | iamlindoro_: | the new topic is *explicitly* forbidden discussion |
| [00:11:30] | iamlindoro_: | and you're right, it'll never happen (and will likely never exist period) |
| [00:11:37] | jblack: | Fair enough. |
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| [00:13:12] | iamlindoro_: | Oh nice, my new baby's glowy blue LEDs can be turned off in BIOS |
| [00:13:25] | iamlindoro_: | (I can't sleep with glowing LEDs in my face) |
| [00:13:57] | jblack: | Is that a new feature in myth, getting the leds off? |
| [00:13:58] | Dagmar: | That's why engineeers invented poorly-adhering electrical tape |
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| [00:14:27] | iamlindoro_: | Dagmar, My solution is usually a shirt over the thing, but nice not to have to pollute the looks |
| [00:14:33] | iamlindoro_: | jblack, nope, just the particular system |
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| [00:28:05] | Dagmar: | Oh yeah. Heat producing equipment and flammable fibers in an aerating mesh |
| [00:28:18] | Dagmar: | That's just sexy right there. |
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| [00:28:42] | iamlindoro_: | Whichnow? |
| [00:29:00] | Dagmar: | "Dagmar, My solution is usually a shirt over the thing, but nice not to have to pollute the looks" |
| [00:29:22] | iamlindoro_: | ah, just usually hung over the front lip, not a bit issue |
| [00:29:25] | iamlindoro_: | er big |
| [00:29:39] | Dagmar: | Okay, I thought you were talking about chucking one right over the top of it willy-nilly there |
| [00:30:03] | Dagmar: | I was sitting here thinking "Yeah, because *suprise fires* are HAWT" |
| [00:30:07] | iamlindoro_: | naw, just put a weight on top of the shirt and cover the front |
| [00:30:33] | jams: | iamlindoro_- whats the graphics chipset on the studios ? |
| [00:30:34] | iamlindoro_: | Not that I haven't used electrical tape when pressed (I'm looking at *you*, WRT-54g |
| [00:30:42] | iamlindoro_: | jams, Intel X3100 |
| [00:31:25] | iamlindoro_: | So nothing special, but at least nice and Linux capable |
| [00:32:16] | iamlindoro_: | and OpenGL 2.0 capable so if GLSL ends up being the source of some hardware offload in the future, it'll be possible. Although with a 2.2 Ghz Core 2 Duo, it should be more or less fine with high-bitrate 1080p h.264 if vwe ever get the ffmpeg frame-based multithreading |
| [00:32:18] | jams: | let us know how it well it works. |
| [00:32:22] | iamlindoro_: | yeah, definitely |
| [00:32:33] | jams: | I have read reviews both good+bad |
| [00:33:20] | iamlindoro_: | It probably won't get here until the 27th-29th and I'm thinking I'll set up a netboot image on my backend when I upgrade it to Intrepid on the 30th and further lower my power bills |
| [00:33:29] | jams: | between you and j-rod i expect a review that can be trusted. |
| [00:34:08] | iamlindoro_: | jams, It was perfect timing of him to share that coupon/deal info, on any other day I either wouldn't have been looking or I wouldn't have had a few extra bucks in the paypal account |
| [00:34:43] | jams: | i almost jumped on the deal, but decided to wait on this one |
| [00:34:44] | iamlindoro_: | But I had just sold off a bunch of unused expensivish RAM and so most of the money was there and felt "disposible" |
| [00:35:15] | iamlindoro_: | There will always be others in their refurbs (and another coupon will come along) |
| [00:35:30] | jams: | i have enough "toys" that sit around collecting dust |
| [00:35:51] | iamlindoro_: | Still, $320 for a system that has some distinct advantages over the Mac Mini and more horsepower in a similarly small form factor made me smile |
| [00:35:58] | iamlindoro_: | (and that's from a major Apple fan) |
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| [00:36:17] | iamlindoro_: | If it really works well, I might get the VESA mount for it and mount it on the wall behind the TV |
| [00:36:36] | jams: | i am really interested in how loud the system is |
| [00:36:48] | jams: | the mini can get noisy sometimes |
| [00:36:55] | iamlindoro_: | jams, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh3Y-NbVT3U&feature=user |
| [00:37:02] | iamlindoro_: | That's the third so you may want to backtrack to the first |
| [00:37:09] | iamlindoro_: | I'm mid-watching it now |
| [00:37:20] | iamlindoro_: | but per that detailed video review it's quieter than the guy's laptop |
| [00:37:26] | iamlindoro_: | even while using the DVD |
| [00:37:31] | iamlindoro_: | also nice to find that HDMI audio works |
| [00:37:44] | jams: | I am no longer allowed to use the mini, the wife taken it for garage band |
| [00:37:50] | iamlindoro_: | heh |
| [00:38:22] | jams: | watching it now |
| [00:39:00] | iamlindoro_: | The only real negative I have taken from the review so far is that apparently OpenGL performance is not great (not surprising given the GPU) |
| [00:39:31] | iamlindoro_: | oh, for the fan discussion you want to look at part 2 |
| [00:40:42] | jams: | watching part2 now |
| [00:41:10] | janneg: | tearing during video playback is another downside, intel doesn't seem to get that fixed |
| [00:41:39] | jams: | also curious how load the dvd drive is |
| [00:41:54] | iamlindoro_: | janneg, Is that with the OpenGL renderer, or Xv also? |
| [00:42:06] | iamlindoro_: | jams, Yeah, he covers that at the same time, apparently not bad at all |
| [00:43:18] | janneg: | iamlindoro_: you mean textured video vs. overlay? both is Xv |
| [00:44:08] | iamlindoro_: | janneg, I meant is the tearing present using Myth's OpenGL vidreo renderer, Xv-blit, or both |
| [00:44:22] | janneg: | doh, I forgot to test overlay. it was only added later |
| [00:45:02] | janneg: | Xv with textured video (the compiz compatible mode) has tearing |
| [00:45:32] | iamlindoro_: | janneg, ah, so you've personal experience with it. Interesting, yeah, hope I'm not bitten by it :( |
| [00:45:34] | jpabq: | Intel video tearing: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjYzNA |
| [00:45:41] | janneg: | I haven't tested the opengl video renderer but I would guess it is not HD capable on the X3100 |
| [00:46:03] | iamlindoro_: | jpabq, that seem like good news |
| [00:46:42] | janneg: | jpabq: it won't be fixed with 2.5 |
| [00:47:27] | jpabq: | I am still using a nVidia 7300 on my Intel G35 board. I would like to eventually pull it out.... |
| [00:47:43] | janneg: | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Njc5NA |
| [00:47:50] | jams: | that seemed like a decent review |
| [00:48:01] | jpabq: | nVidia's 9200 chipset looks interesting. |
| [00:48:13] | janneg: | http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/20 . . . /039496.html |
| [00:49:14] | jpabq: | http://anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3432 |
| [00:49:22] | jams: | janneg- are you still using lighttpd with mythweb? |
| [00:49:48] | Dagmar: | jpabq: For gaming, sure |
| [00:50:03] | janneg: | jams: no |
| [00:50:34] | Dagmar: | jpabq: For us, not unless having $150 is an onerous burden on the wallet |
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| [00:50:51] | Dagmar: | My wallet's been working out, getting proper exercise. |
| [00:50:59] | Dagmar: | It can hold a LOT of money. |
| [00:51:13] | Dagmar: | I don't need a 9xxx-series card to lighten it's load. |
| [00:51:44] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : -v jams | |
| [00:51:47] | jpabq: | Dagmar, I am talking about their new motherboard chipset. Includes integrated graphics. |
| [00:52:04] | Dagmar: | It's not the first one |
| [00:52:18] | Dagmar: | It's not even one *of* the first really |
| [00:52:41] | jpabq: | Dagmar, you have lost me. What are you talking about? |
| [00:53:05] | Dagmar: | The hardware I'm using for a frontend right now has an integrated nVidia chipset with video. |
| [00:53:08] | Dagmar: | 7xxx-series. |
| [00:53:20] | jpabq: | Ok. And? |
| [00:54:36] | Dagmar: | It was way cheaper than what an integrated 9xxx board is |
| [00:54:44] | cesman: | janneg: I have played HD content on the X3100 (MPEG 2 and 4) works well, tearing however is an issue |
| [00:55:40] | Dagmar: | jpabq: Remember, we don't get any benefit of hardware accelleration for playback still above the 7xxx series |
| [00:56:31] | jpabq: | Dagmar, $$$, gotcha. |
| [00:56:43] | Dagmar: | I'm starting to wonder if the project that was trying to get that going is actaually going to bear fruit. |
| [00:56:59] | Dagmar: | It was looking like 2–3 months time before, and now we're in "3–4 months" land and I've seen nothing since |
| [00:57:26] | jpabq: | Since I need a video card anyway, getting a 9300 based motherboard instead does not raise the cost too much. |
| [00:57:36] | iamlindoro_: | which project? The ffmpeg one, or the xbmc one, or the galleon one, or... wheee, so many projects! |
| [00:58:10] | iamlindoro_: | er Gallium |
| [00:58:36] | Dagmar: | Gallium IIRC |
| [00:58:40] | Dagmar: | I'm not sure of the name |
| [01:00:15] | iamlindoro_: | As of my last check it seems the most progress has been made by the XBMC guy in terms of hardware offload |
| [01:00:49] | iamlindoro_: | and it appears I was wrong about the ffmpeg guy as he made a whole bunch of commits to the SoC repository this week, so there's still hope for that too |
| [01:03:00] | iamlindoro_: | http://www.bitblit.org/gsoc/g3dvl/ |
| [01:03:07] | iamlindoro_: | That's the gallium one IIRC |
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| [01:05:33] | wagnerrp: | seems pbs is playing Twelve Angry Men in ach-dee |
| [01:06:17] | wagnerrp: | somehow i cant imagine theres still enough quality left in that reel for 1080i |
| [01:07:10] | wagnerrp: | and thats besides the fact that its really an SD telecine, complete with subtitle information at the top of the video |
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| [01:07:21] | Dagmar: | The people watching PBS don't know any better |
| [01:07:26] | justinh: | mmmmmmmmmmm artifacts on film grain |
| [01:07:46] | wagnerrp: | the people watching pbs can see the flashing white bars at the top of their screen |
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| [01:08:01] | johnsu01: | so, I have a show set to be transcoded, but as near as I can tell, it's not happening — the size is still 3.7G for 1/2 hour |
| [01:08:08] | johnsu01: | mtd is running, and I haven't seen any errors |
| [01:08:26] | Dagmar: | johnsu01: Used the high-quality transcoding profile without looking at it first, didn't you |
| [01:08:30] | wagnerrp: | johnsu01: by default, mythtranscode does not delete the old file |
| [01:08:40] | wagnerrp: | it merely transcodes and creates another copy |
| [01:08:40] | johnsu01: | Dagmar: well, I've tried all the quality settings |
| [01:08:55] | johnsu01: | Dagmar: but you're right that I have not looked into the default settings for those quality settings yet |
| [01:09:12] | johnsu01: | wagnerrp: hm, I don't see any transcoded files then I guess — just the originals |
| [01:09:24] | iamlindoro_: | mtd also doesn't transcode your TV |
| [01:09:41] | johnsu01: | iamlindoro_: what do you mean? |
| [01:10:02] | iamlindoro_: | mtd doesn't have anything to do with transcoding your recordings |
| [01:10:13] | johnsu01: | oh okay, that's just dvds? |
| [01:10:15] | iamlindoro_: | mtd is for transcoding DVDs. |
| [01:10:36] | iamlindoro_: | mythtranscode does recordings. |
| [01:10:39] | johnsu01: | good to know |
| [01:11:08] | johnsu01: | but that runs on demand, right? |
| [01:11:24] | iamlindoro_: | yep |
| [01:11:52] | iamlindoro_: | so tail -f your mythbackend log and go start a transcode job, and oyu'll know why/if it fails |
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| [01:14:38] | johnsu01: | iamlindoro_: yeah, there is nothing about transcode in the logs |
| [01:14:51] | techqbert: | Anybody in here use an intel-atom machine running linux? If so, how's 720p performance? |
| [01:15:27] | justinh: | 720p what? |
| [01:15:30] | iamlindoro_: | techqbert, 720p is just a resolution |
| [01:15:33] | justinh: | 720p mpeg2 ? |
| [01:15:40] | justinh: | 720p h.264 AVC ? |
| [01:15:42] | justinh: | que? |
| [01:15:50] | iamlindoro_: | and at what bitrates and encoding options? |
| [01:16:04] | iamlindoro_: | single or multiple sliced? |
| [01:16:24] | wagnerrp: | cavlc or cabac? |
| [01:16:29] | iamlindoro_: | johnsu01, Then it appears you haven't set up the transcode properly-- I said to tail -f the log and attempt to start one, not just read them |
| [01:16:42] | justinh: | encoded by a retard who then started seeding it? |
| [01:16:49] | techqbert: | ah, I knew you were the guys to ask. Heh. I'm thinking a HD video, say an avi or wmv (Sorry if I look dense on this topic) |
| [01:17:00] | johnsu01: | iamlindoro_: yes, understood, just noting that fact about the current logs |
| [01:17:08] | justinh: | avi & wmv are just containers, not formats |
| [01:17:11] | iamlindoro_: | Well, you earn points for knowing the cluelessness, techqbert ;) |
| [01:17:23] | squish102: | ati hd 3200 using latest ati drivers, desktop works fine buy mythtv loads all scrambled http://www.flickr.com/photos/78287460@N00/2952413351/ |
| [01:17:25] | iamlindoro_: | avi and wmv are containers, not codecs |
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| [01:17:51] | iamlindoro_: | so you'll need to figure out what specifically you want to play, or give an example so that we can deduce it, before we can answer |
| [01:17:52] | justinh: | wow those damn linux types, always complicating the issue. tsck |
| [01:18:05] | techqbert: | iamlindoro_: i'll take those points in this channel however I can. :D |
| [01:18:15] | iamlindoro_: | like, if you said 720p US broadcast TV, then we'd know it was MPEG-2 at bitrates up to 19 or so megabit |
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| [01:18:47] | iamlindoro_: | if you said 720p blu-ray rips from the internet, then we'll assume the worst and say some retard encoded them single sliced at 10 or so megabit (in which case it's a lost cause on Atom) |
| [01:18:56] | wagnerrp: | at 1.6GHz, youre probably not going to be able to handle h.264/AVC anything |
| [01:19:16] | iamlindoro_: | I'd say at *best* the Atom might handle US broadcast playback... but even that isn't a promise |
| [01:19:22] | wagnerrp: | you could probably manage ATSC at full bitrate |
| [01:19:27] | techqbert: | hrm. Interesting. You guys know your stuff. |
| [01:19:48] | wagnerrp: | if you want something worthwhile, wait until the dual core atom |
| [01:19:53] | iamlindoro_: | We're not just pretty faces (but it doesn't hurt that we are) |
| [01:20:02] | jduggan: | hah |
| [01:20:34] | wagnerrp: | the dual core could handle most avc you download |
| [01:20:50] | wagnerrp: | it will not handle hdpvr video, it will not handle bluray video |
| [01:21:19] | iamlindoro_: | and that download comes with the caveat that retard mcpiratepants remembered/knew to use multiple slices |
| [01:21:44] | techqbert: | Yeah the dual-core, so-called dual diamondville, does look promising. |
| [01:21:50] | wagnerrp: | it may be able to handle hdpvr output if the multithreaded ffmpeg patches get completed |
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| [01:22:22] | squish102: | ati hd 3200 using latest ati drivers, desktop works fine buy mythtv loads all scrambled http://www.flickr.com/photos/78287460@N00/2952413351/ < pic of screen (look sideways!) |
| [01:22:45] | iamlindoro_: | deja freakin vu |
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| [01:23:01] | squish102: | my xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.com/m5e5c4ef0 |
| [01:23:17] | wagnerrp: | thats why no one on here yet advises buying ATI hardware |
| [01:23:19] | squish102: | any advice how to get mythtv to display properly |
| [01:23:34] | squish102: | mplayer will play dvd's just fine |
| [01:23:35] | wagnerrp: | the drivers are getting better, but theyre not there yet |
| [01:23:38] | mchou: | squish102: reminds me of stereograms (you get 3d glasses with that?) |
| [01:23:50] | squish102: | lol mchou |
| [01:24:21] | squish102: | so i think the drivers are installed and working, it is just mythtv that is messing up somehow |
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| [01:24:40] | mchou: | squish102: it aint mythtv |
| [01:25:07] | squish102: | everything else seems to be working fine. how should i test it? |
| [01:25:09] | mchou: | squish102: mythtv couldnt scable up your display like that if it WANTED to |
| [01:25:18] | mchou: | scamble* |
| [01:25:27] | mchou: | scramble** |
| [01:25:33] | clev: | mchou: ive seen mythtv scramble my screen whenever it had focus |
| [01:25:48] | squish102: | and as soon as i hit <esc> <down> <enter> to get out of mythtv, desktop returns back to normal |
| [01:25:49] | Dagmar: | Yeah but that's you |
| [01:25:59] | clev: | i found the problem in the end, it was using the nvidia client side GL lib, with the ati Xserver side GL lib |
| [01:26:11] | Dagmar: | I rest my case. |
| [01:26:17] | mchou: | clev: like I said, that wasnt myth |
| [01:26:29] | clev: | when i moved focus outside of mythtv, everything(and myth) went back to normal |
| [01:27:10] | Dagmar: | So... |
| [01:27:13] | squish102: | this is a clean install of mythbuntu, never put a nvidia card in it |
| [01:27:29] | Dagmar: | How is it you can sit there and say that you had broken the wonderf**k out of your Xorg install, but blame Myth for the problem? |
| [01:27:30] | clev: | i had hacked things up do get nvidia and ati drivers working at once |
| [01:27:50] | clev: | Dagmar: i wasnt blamming mythtv :P, i was explaining a similar problem |
| [01:28:01] | clev: | but that image is way more scrambled |
| [01:28:36] | squish102: | yet mplayer plays dvd's just fine |
| [01:28:49] | mchou: | lol |
| [01:28:52] | wagnerrp: | what command are you using to run mplayer? |
| [01:28:54] | squish102: | what is another way to test it? what other app could i try |
| [01:29:00] | clev: | xterm ! |
| [01:29:03] | Dagmar: | So pay attention to what output method MPlayer says it's using, and configure MythTV to use that same method. |
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| [01:29:06] | squish102: | wagnerrp 'mplayer' ;) |
| [01:29:25] | clev: | Dagmar: mythtv cant use xv for the main menu :P |
| [01:29:28] | iamlindoro_: | squish102, have you tried both theme painters? |
| [01:29:32] | squish102: | ok, Dagmar i'll try that thanks |
| [01:29:34] | wagnerrp: | well you you type 'mplayer' into the terminal, it isnt going to do anything |
| [01:29:44] | iamlindoro_: | ie mythfrontend -O ThemePainter=qt and ThemePainter=opengl? |
| [01:30:00] | Dagmar: | OpenGl would be a non-starter. |
| [01:30:03] | squish102: | wagnerrp i think mine opened up something, i told it to load dvd and play full screen |
| [01:30:04] | Dagmar: | He has it disabled. |
| [01:30:20] | wagnerrp: | so you ran gmplayer |
| [01:30:35] | wagnerrp: | mplayer is merely a video window |
| [01:30:36] | iamlindoro_: | Dagmar, I missed that part, when did he post his compile options? |
| [01:30:41] | wagnerrp: | gmplayer provides a gui |
| [01:30:49] | Dagmar: | It's not his compile options, it's in his xorg.conf that he pasted |
| [01:30:51] | squish102: | wagnerrp you right |
| [01:30:56] | clev: | wagnerrp: the gui on mplayer looks weird:P |
| [01:31:01] | iamlindoro_: | Dagmar, That's not to say that he doesn't have *myth* set to attempt it |
| [01:31:04] | clev: | i only ever use the cli version |
| [01:31:16] | wagnerrp: | clev: the gui on mplayer is themed, it looks like whatever you want it to |
| [01:31:23] | Dagmar: | iamlindoro_: i'm pretty sure Myth will fail since it's doing everything through X |
| [01:31:34] | iamlindoro_: | probably *shrug* |
| [01:31:38] | clev: | wagnerrp: it still looks weird to have a gui on a player that ive only ever used from cli |
| [01:32:29] | johnsu01: | iamlindoro_: so, no output in the log at all when I start transcode |
| [01:32:34] | squish102: | clev i must say the gui is easier... /me reading through the 5 page mplayer options to figure out how to just play a dvd :( |
| [01:32:34] | Dagmar: | Catonic: You're going to have to either spend pretty close to $200 or get out the rotary cutting tool like I'm doing |
| [01:32:37] | Dagmar: | wrong chan |
| [01:33:13] | clev: | squish102: ive read the entire man page several times over and memorized everything i use |
| [01:33:15] | iamlindoro_: | johnsu01, Then you may have your backend set not to allow transcode jobs... are they queuing up? |
| [01:33:20] | iamlindoro_: | Check the job queue |
| [01:33:49] | Dagmar: | "ive read the entire man page several times over" <-- this is why we don't have clever killed. |
| [01:34:11] | johnsu01: | iamlindoro_: job queue says it errored, exit status 255 |
| [01:34:15] | clev: | i read man pages in my spare time.... |
| [01:34:42] | iamlindoro_: | johnsu01, Then you are following the wrong log (or not logging at all) |
| [01:35:00] | johnsu01: | iamlindoro_: I'm following the backend log and I also have -v most on the frontend, and checked that output |
| [01:35:15] | iamlindoro_: | mythfrontend has no transcode output |
| [01:35:34] | iamlindoro_: | johnsu01, starting a transcode job that errors out WILL output something to the log if you are logging at all. |
| [01:35:40] | iamlindoro_: | the backend log, that is |
| [01:36:09] | iamlindoro_: | and presuming you don't have -v none set I suppose |
| [01:36:30] | johnsu01: | ah, there it goes |
| [01:36:39] | clev: | i only ever use -v none with stuff like mythbackend -printexpire |
| [01:37:03] | johnsu01: | 2008-10–18 21:31:02.238 No video information found! |
| [01:37:03] | johnsu01: | 2008-10–18 21:31:02.238 Please ensure that recording profiles for the transcoder are set |
| [01:37:18] | johnsu01: | guess that's my answer |
| [01:37:25] | Gumby: | I am just starting to get this error and I cant figure out why. Everything was working, but now I get "NVP: Couldn't find a matching decoder for: myth://192.168.1.15:6543/1850_20081018183622.mpg" when trying to watch livetv |
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| [01:37:40] | iamlindoro_: | So you haven't set up your transcoder profiles. do so. |
| [01:37:48] | iamlindoro_: | Plenty of info in the manual on that |
| [01:37:48] | johnsu01: | iamlindoro_: are those not set to anything by default? |
| [01:38:30] | iamlindoro_: | Don't recall what the default setting are. Whatever the current setting are, they're wrong. So fix. |
| [01:39:56] | Dagmar: | Well, they're not set to things that are very useful by default |
| [01:40:05] | johnsu01: | Just trying to figure out if there is something that should be reported here |
| [01:40:26] | Dagmar: | ...although I think "high-quality" still engages the "lossless" switch by default, which means it's good for cutting commercials if you don't mind your cut points being fudged a bit |
| [01:40:30] | iamlindoro_: | Not unless we can report you for not reading the transcoding section of the manual |
| [01:40:36] | iamlindoro_: | is your mother home? |
| [01:41:06] | johnsu01: | iamlindoro_: Thanks, but I think that choosing a "Low Quality" profile and setting transcode to yes ought to produce a result by default |
| [01:41:24] | johnsu01: | Or give you an error in the interface when selecting such an option |
| [01:41:31] | iamlindoro_: | in the words of many a great man, patches welcome |
| [01:41:41] | johnsu01: | And attitude unwelcome, but I hear you. |
| [01:41:45] | Dagmar: | johnsu01: Keep digging around man. There's multiple things that should be looked at before deciding "it just doesn't work" |
| [01:41:50] | iamlindoro_: | because no patch = no right to an opinion |
| [01:41:59] | johnsu01: | I submit patches and read manuals, and what I'm trying to ascertain here is whether there is a problem in the software that needs to be fixed |
| [01:42:07] | Dagmar: | There's a switch in there somewhere or other that makes Myth not run the transcoders after a recording |
| [01:42:11] | johnsu01: | This is a necessary first step to patching something |
| [01:42:18] | Dagmar: | ...because normally, that's just going to make a mess. |
| [01:42:55] | Dagmar: | ...because until someone's set the transcoders up to the way they LIKE them, they're going to report it as a bug. |
| [01:43:00] | mchou: | Frigging mozilla nsplugins |
| [01:43:18] | Dagmar: | "OMG my default install transcoded my video and now I've lost 12% of the image quality!" |
| [01:46:33] | johnsu01: | Dagmar: Yeah, I can understand that, not an easy problem.. |
| [01:47:11] | squish102: | i notice my mythtv-setup also is scrambled :( |
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| [01:48:45] | Dagmar: | So what output mechanism is mplayer using |
| [01:48:58] | JoeyJoeJo: | I'm trying to get my firewire motorola 6200 HD STB working, but when running the firewire_tester program, it fails every time. What could be the issue? |
| [01:49:17] | Dagmar: | It's probably saying why it's failed. |
| [01:49:23] | mchou: | JoeyJoeJo: what does plugreport say? |
| [01:49:40] | mchou: | JoeyJoeJo: put output in pastebin |
| [01:49:40] | squish102: | Dagmar mplayer is working fine with no errors |
| [01:49:45] | JoeyJoeJo: | mchou: ok |
| [01:50:21] | squish102: | i will try figure out what to look for in the mplayer output and translate that to some setting for mythfrontend |
| [01:50:34] | JoeyJoeJo: | mchou: it'll be just a sec, I have to emerge wgetpaste real quick |
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| [01:50:58] | mchou: | lol |
| [01:52:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | Gee, do you think a C2D 2.2GHz will handle ATSC HD? (720P mpeg2) |
| [01:53:23] | wagnerrp: | not a problem |
| [01:53:32] | wagnerrp: | assuming xv is working |
| [01:53:47] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: I dont understand why you're even asking that |
| [01:55:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | Because I just bought a MB/cpu/mem combo at micro center for $139.99 — C2D 2.2 / 1GB ram / ECS MB w/onboard Nvidia 7100 |
| [01:55:15] | JoeyJoeJo: | mchou: ok, finally got it... http://rafb.net/p/reVLP974.html |
| [01:55:22] | wagnerrp: | not bad |
| [01:55:40] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: that sounds like a combo from Frys |
| [01:56:07] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: 720p should work |
| [01:56:27] | ** J-e-f-f-A wishes Fry's was here in New England... :-( I like fry's... ;-) ** | |
| [01:56:55] | mchou: | I tought Frys were the only ones giving away ECS mobos :) |
| [01:57:31] | squish102: | JoeyJoeJo thanks wgetpaste seems like a win... learn something new every day |
| [01:57:56] | mchou: | JoeyJoeJo: try 6200ch <a known good channel #> |
| [01:58:44] | mchou: | JoeyJoeJo: if the channel changes you should just forget about firewire_tester |
| [01:59:13] | mchou: | JoeyJoeJo: and start recording using myth |
| [01:59:14] | J-e-f-f-A: | mchou: Micro Center out here... ;-) About 1/3 the selection of Fry's.... (as far as Motherboards go...) |
| [01:59:33] | JoeyJoeJo: | mchou: ok, I'll try that |
| [01:59:38] | wagnerrp: | yeah, the MC around here has a limited selection |
| [02:00:04] | wagnerrp: | they have maybe 2 dozen boards |
| [02:00:10] | mchou: | J-e-f-f-A: well, Frys mobo selection isnt actually all that HOT, but yeah, I'd be sorry too if there were no Frys where I lived |
| [02:00:27] | mchou: | someone was proposing that Frys buy out CC |
| [02:00:44] | wagnerrp: | the nearest frys is about 2 hours away |
| [02:00:47] | mchou: | which doesnt actually sound like a bad idea |
| [02:01:06] | wagnerrp: | their deals arent worth 4hrs of my time and $30 in gas |
| [02:01:22] | ** J-e-f-f-A visits Fry's every time he's in California... ;-) ** | |
| [02:01:36] | wagnerrp: | unless they have a half price LCD TV or something |
| [02:02:00] | ** J-e-f-f-A would support fry's buying out CC... Especially if they switch the CC's to Frys out here!!!!!! ;-) ** | |
| [02:02:18] | AndyCap: | been in one micro center, it seemed a little low rent |
| [02:02:55] | wagnerrp: | the one around here is in a large warehouse sized building |
| [02:02:58] | J-e-f-f-A: | The only one within 10 hours is 30 mins from my house... |
| [02:03:37] | JoeyJoeJo: | mchou: how do I know which port my 6200 is on? does it tell me sonehwere in plugreport? |
| [02:04:25] | ** J-e-f-f-A 's 6200 is on the PCIe port... ;-) (my GeForce 6200 that is... ;-) ) ** | |
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| [02:08:03] | squish102: | can any1 see anything wrong/funny with this mplayer output? http://rafb.net/p/mBmWIz36.html |
| [02:08:52] | squish102: | mplayer works fine, i'm trying to get myth to start up without being scrambled by reviewing mplayer settings that it is using |
| [02:09:33] | JoeyJoeJo: | this is what I'm getting when I try to change channels... http://rafb.net/p/gviCEg18.html |
| [02:11:29] | Dagmar: | squish102: Here's a strong hint. Everything you need to know is between lines 25 and 36. |
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| [02:16:55] | squish102: | thanks Dagmar, but i think my answer isnt there, i'll go google this a little more |
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| [02:19:12] | Kazan: | on my build of mythtv (trunk from the other day) mythvideo setup locks up the system |
| [02:19:33] | Kazan: | "Default MythVideo View" i assume corresponds to Browser, Gallery, Tree, etc |
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| [02:19:45] | kormoc: | Kazan, so why are you using trunk? |
| [02:19:48] | Kazan: | do you know what the codes are for the various views |
| [02:19:57] | Kazan: | kormoc: because i couldn't get .21-fixes to build on my Fedora 9 when i first upgraded |
| [02:20:15] | Kazan: | and now i assume i cannot downgrade because of DB changes |
| [02:20:33] | kormoc: | Kazan, other then the database backup made right before you updated |
| [02:20:40] | Kazan: | was a while ago |
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| [02:20:53] | kormoc: | Kazan, re the codes, it's in the code. |
| [02:21:01] | Kazan: | you know what file? |
| [02:21:20] | kormoc: | Kazan, but keep in mind. Trunk is fairly unstable right now |
| [02:21:24] | Kazan: | i know |
| [02:21:27] | Kazan: | WAF-- |
| [02:21:43] | Kazan: | the latest build i've updated to seems to have lost a lot of speed in the UI |
| [02:21:58] | ** Kazan gets the build number ** | |
| [02:22:15] | ** Kazan is using a VM from now on to make sure stable builds on latest version of his distro before upgraded ** | |
| [02:23:31] | Kazan: | Revision: 18704 |
| [02:25:03] | Kazan: | excellent i found the file :D |
| [02:25:07] | Kazan: | http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/browser/trunk/myth . . . o/videodlg.h |
| [02:25:34] | Kazan: | hopefully via direct manipulation of the settings table i've WAF++'ed for a while.. |
| [02:25:39] | Kazan: | afk, thanks |
| [02:26:33] | Kazan: | grr |
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| [02:29:59] | Kazan: | weird |
| [02:30:04] | Kazan: | browsing with nodb is using |
| [02:30:13] | Kazan: | erg |
| [02:30:19] | Kazan: | browsing with no db is not working in mythvid |
| [02:32:40] | kormoc: | Kazan, as I said, trunk is fairly unstable right now. Brokenness is to be expected.... |
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| [02:36:50] | Kazan: | k |
| [02:36:53] | Kazan: | scanned mode works |
| [02:37:10] | Kazan: | i'm just wondering if it's my settings borked for browsing w/o db, or if it's borked |
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| [02:47:01] | fignuts: | hi |
| [02:47:16] | fignuts: | does mythtv support any pdas where you could see what music or videos you're picking on the touchscreen? |
| [02:47:35] | wagnerrp: | as in playing content on the PDA? |
| [02:47:40] | wagnerrp: | or using the PDA as a remote control? |
| [02:47:45] | fignuts: | nope, just using the pda to select, so i wouldn't have to turn my tv on |
| [02:47:51] | fignuts: | for music, for example |
| [02:48:11] | johnsu01: | Dagmar: Well, seems like the problem was that the allow resize box was not checked in the transcode profile |
| [02:48:20] | wagnerrp: | there is a telnet interface, but that is primarily for remote control |
| [02:48:30] | fignuts: | yeah i wanna remote control |
| [02:48:40] | wagnerrp: | i dont know how much support that provides besides simulating keypresses |
| [02:48:41] | fignuts: | for instance, in lmce i can see lists of albums or videos and play them from there |
| [02:48:46] | fignuts: | oh ok |
| [02:49:10] | kormoc: | there isn't anything that I've heard of that was that slick yet |
| [02:49:35] | fignuts: | i thought someone said you can use the ipod touch as a remote, how does that work? |
| [02:49:41] | wagnerrp: | GreyFoxx (i believe) has been working on something for his n810 |
| [02:49:57] | kormoc: | fignuts, likely using the telnet interface, so purely keypress emulation |
| [02:50:08] | wagnerrp: | and there is the playback-only frontend for the touch/iphone |
| [02:50:18] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, huh? where? |
| [02:50:35] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: which one? |
| [02:50:43] | fignuts: | ipod touch! |
| [02:50:49] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, the ipod touch/iphone frontend |
| [02:51:11] | fignuts: | you mean it streams to the ipod touch or iphone? |
| [02:51:18] | fignuts: | or controls the pc? |
| [02:51:28] | wagnerrp: | correct, playback is on the iwhatever |
| [02:51:43] | fignuts: | oh damn |
| [02:52:27] | wagnerrp: | mythtv on the iphone: http://www.youtube.com/watcg?v=m21jlkiV9oI |
| [02:52:40] | fignuts: | thanks |
| [02:52:53] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, that user has 0 videos |
| [02:53:12] | wagnerrp: | sorry, that link was hand-typed |
| [02:53:27] | wagnerrp: | i typed 'watcg' instead of 'watch' |
| [02:53:39] | fignuts: | got it |
| [02:54:00] | wagnerrp: | mythtv remote on the iphone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOzyhNuTU4k |
| [02:54:08] | kormoc: | ooh... that's just a php streaming server |
| [02:54:17] | kormoc: | can build that into mythweb easily enough |
| [02:54:18] | wagnerrp: | kormoc: basically |
| [02:54:34] | wagnerrp: | just a custom web frontend |
| [02:55:14] | wagnerrp: | videos have to be pre-rendered like the old flash streamer |
| [02:55:17] | fignuts: | so it could work from any web browser? |
| [02:55:44] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, yeah, if folks would have taken half a hour to just modify the new streamer code to support mp4, it'd work in mythweb |
| [02:55:47] | ** kormoc sighs ** | |
| [02:56:06] | fignuts: | hmm |
| [02:56:15] | Kazan: | doesn't mythvideo understand the .mkv container? |
| [02:56:27] | wagnerrp: | well this does have a page far more suited for the iphone |
| [02:56:32] | hads: | Sure it does |
| [02:56:37] | wagnerrp: | kazan: mythvideo doesnt do much of anything |
| [02:56:51] | wagnerrp: | it just creates a list of files to be played in mplayer or the internal player |
| [02:56:53] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, sure, and can do that with with mythweb's theme's and some css and have everything on the iphone |
| [02:57:14] | Kazan: | wagnerrp: yes.. but does it know about .mkv |
| [02:57:22] | hads: | Sure it does |
| [02:57:22] | wagnerrp: | ' |
| [02:57:22] | kormoc: | wagnerrp, mythvideo does have a list of supported file formats in the db |
| [02:57:34] | hads: | Which can be altered to suit |
| [02:57:35] | wagnerrp: | '.mkv' is one of the default extensions programmed in, yes |
| [02:58:08] | wagnerrp: | but it doesnt not grab any sort of meta or file data from the file |
| [02:58:20] | wagnerrp: | it merely recognizes that the file exists |
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| [03:00:44] | wagnerrp: | someone said the telnet interface was paid for by pluto? |
| [03:01:13] | kormoc: | it was |
| [03:03:29] | GreyFoxx: | Yeah the original code was from their bounty |
| [03:04:27] | clev: | i sometimes get the keyboard(real and telnet) non responsive |
| [03:04:44] | clev: | ive looked over and code and found the general area of the problem |
| [03:04:59] | clev: | it gives up because playback took too long to start |
| [03:05:16] | clev: | but some kind of race condition causes it to start playback anyway |
| [03:05:24] | clev: | and at that point, it begins ignoring the keyboard |
| [03:05:26] | GreyFoxx: | Kaza: the internal player will play mkv's just fine |
| [03:05:35] | GreyFoxx: | mythvideo should happily display them |
| [03:06:02] | clev: | i 'fixed' my copy by increasing the timeout for video playback to start |
| [03:06:38] | GreyFoxx: | Isn't the default timeout like 20 seconds or something ? |
| [03:06:58] | clev: | yeah and sometimes my system is swapping too heavily when it starts and it times out |
| [03:07:14] | clev: | and a small % of the time, it times out yet still plays(which is when it breaks) |
| [03:07:41] | clev: | once broken, it totaly ignored all input until playback is over |
| [03:08:27] | wagnerrp: | fignuts: seems the telnet interface only has advanced settings for native mythtv function |
| [03:08:48] | wagnerrp: | beyond that, seems you can only 'jump' into mythmusic, and then use the keyboard commands |
| [03:09:41] | clev: | you could posibly edit a mythmusic playlist with raw mysql access, then add a jump into mythmusic to start that playlist right up |
| [03:09:55] | clev: | or fudge with the 'current' playlist so it will 'resume' where it thinks it left off |
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| [03:13:46] | hads: | I should look into making the telnet interface wake up the frontend from DPMS like the remote or keyboard. |
| [03:13:56] | hads: | That catches me out sometimes. |
| [03:14:10] | GreyFoxx: | just disable dpms ? :) |
| [03:14:30] | hads: | :) |
| [03:14:45] | clev: | my bigger problem with dpms, the tv shuts itself off when theres no signal |
| [03:15:00] | hads: | That's what I use to put the TV into standby. |
| [03:15:02] | clev: | and the comp cant turn it back on without another ir blaster and the right codes |
| [03:15:04] | wagnerrp: | well thats a problem with your tv |
| [03:15:35] | clev: | i can use irexec to react to the 'power' key on the pvr150 remote and blast the tv to wake it |
| [03:15:38] | hads: | One of my specs when buying the TV was that I could put it to sleep and wake it up from the PC |
| [03:15:44] | clev: | but i need the tv's code set |
| [03:15:46] | wagnerrp: | a plasma we have at work goes into standby when you have a DPMS signal, and comes back out when the signal returns |
| [03:15:52] | clev: | and my pvr150 receiver hasnt been working for ages |
| [03:16:08] | clev: | wagnerrp: my tv is just on a SD composite signal |
| [03:16:17] | GreyFoxx: | hads: That's one thing I like about mine, I can control it via rs232, so I have a perl script to control it |
| [03:16:22] | clev: | the screen goes blue and threatens to shut itself off in 10mins and counting... |
| [03:16:24] | wagnerrp: | you can send DPMS over composite? |
| [03:16:25] | GreyFoxx: | but I use it when I'm too lazy to find the remote |
| [03:16:32] | GreyFoxx: | not to auto turn it off or anything |
| [03:16:44] | hads: | GreyFoxx: Nice. |
| [03:16:58] | GreyFoxx: | yeah, even came with the API in the manual for the TV |
| [03:17:08] | clev: | sweet |
| [03:17:26] | hads: | I can use xset etc. to wake it up but it wouldnt be more convinient to just wake up from one of the telnet interface key events like the remote. |
| [03:17:56] | clev: | hads: yeah i also use xset heavily when outside of mythtv, mainly to force the laptop screen off |
| [03:18:16] | hads: | s/wouldnt/would/ |
| [03:18:37] | clev: | mythtv can allready enable/disable dpms with playback |
| [03:18:45] | hads: | Yes |
| [03:18:47] | clev: | but i dont see how telnet or lirc would wake it |
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| [03:18:59] | clev: | would be a usefull fix for some |
| [03:19:01] | hads: | Because it's a key event |
| [03:19:16] | clev: | hads: isnt the lirc key event all inside mythtv, bypassing Xorg? |
| [03:19:18] | hads: | Lirc and the keyboard currently do, telnet does not. |
| [03:19:32] | clev: | depends on the lirc driver though |
| [03:19:33] | cwsmith: | MythSocket(b2aaa608:16): writeStringList: No data written on writeBlock |
| [03:19:44] | cwsmith: | can someone tell me what the error means ? |
| [03:20:01] | hads: | OK, to be more specific, the mceusb2 remote I'm using here will. |
| [03:20:43] | clev: | hads: some remote drives will emulate a normal keyboard, those would simply act like a normal keyboard and wake things |
| [03:20:51] | hads: | Yes |
| [03:20:58] | clev: | others like the pvr150 i had working, will go thru lircd and directly into mythfrontend |
| [03:20:59] | hads: | mceusb2 is not one of them |
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| [03:21:03] | hads: | Yes |
| [03:21:09] | clev: | they bypass Xorg and dont care if mythfrontend has any focus |
| [03:21:16] | hads: | I know |
| [03:21:18] | clev: | and probly also wont wake dpms up |
| [03:21:35] | hads: | I've said twice now that it does :) |
| [03:22:04] | clev: | i'll just shut up and go to bed :P |
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| [03:44:17] | J-e-f-f-A: | my MCE2 turns on my monitor, but doesn't fully wake up from dpms... I have to touch a keyboard key to get it fully out of dpms... |
| [03:45:10] | J-e-f-f-A: | (although now that I think about it, maybe it's just the 'screen saver' that's not getting out of...) |
| [03:45:14] | hads: | Interesting |
| [03:45:26] | hads: | Yeah that could be it |
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| [03:45:45] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, I think that's it... I set the 'generic' black screen-saver... should have just set DPMS with no screen saver. |
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| [03:49:52] | RyeBrye: | I just set up a PVR-500 in my new box, and it's behaving strangely. I know the card works and ivtv seems fine, because I can 'cat /dev/video1 > test.mpg' and then watch the resulting mpg in mplayer just fine |
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| [03:50:56] | RyeBrye: | if I try to switch from my HDHR input to one of the PVR-500 tuners when watching live TV the screen goes black and mythfrontend goes unresponsive – no messages are in the log (at least when i start with -v debug ) – and if I tell it to record something on that tuner I get no output either |
| [03:51:01] | RyeBrye: | any ideas what I should do to fix it? |
| [03:51:24] | RyeBrye: | Delete the cards and put them back in, perhaps? |
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| [03:51:42] | Dagmar: | Nope. |
| [03:51:49] | Dagmar: | Check http://www.pastebin.ca/1230720 |
| [03:51:55] | Dagmar: | Make sure your md5sums match |
| [03:52:05] | Dagmar: | ...at least for the three important ones there |
| [03:52:29] | clev: | ugh, i have a conflict in upcomming recordings that wont go away |
| [03:52:34] | Dagmar: | Beyond that you just tell Myth you have two PVR-150s and it does a good job of figuring the res out |
| [03:52:42] | Dagmar: | The PVR-500's are pretty sensitive about the firmwares |
| [03:52:48] | clev: | (it started 52mins ago and ends in 8, but didnt record because it was conflicting) |
| [03:54:25] | kormoc: | clev, and I have a hang nail, and oh look, there's another one... |
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| [03:54:28] | RyeBrye: | I think mine are the same |
| [03:54:29] | RyeBrye: | http://www.pastebin.ca/1230723 |
| [03:54:38] | RyeBrye: | ( I just updated that post with mine at the bottom) |
| [03:54:55] | onexused: | I put a pcHDTV 5500 in my computer. I can get video, but not sound (even though the card's device shows up in gnome's volume control), and even though the card supports digital TV signals, I'm only able to get analog TV right now. I'm fairly sure I have the right things built into the kernel. What else can I check? Or, I'd be willing to check the modules, too, if you think that's warranted. |
| [03:54:59] | RyeBrye: | one is different, but the pvr500 only uses the cx23418 or 3241x oens, right? |
| [03:55:00] | clev: | kormoc: normaly the upcomming recordings tells me when the next conflict is, so i can clear it |
| [03:55:06] | clev: | kormoc: but its stuck saying today |
| [03:55:37] | Dagmar: | Yeah the three that matter match |
| [03:55:38] | clev: | and i cant clear that conflict since the starttime has allready gone by |
| [03:56:21] | J-e-f-f-A: | Hey Dagmar – not trying to hijack this... but my v4l-cx25840.fw is a different sum... should that be ok with just a PVR-500 and HDHomeRun? (all others match) |
| [03:57:12] | RyeBrye: | J-e-f-f-a – I don't htink the 25840 is used by a PVR-500 and the HDHR obviously doesn't use any of the v4l stuff |
| [03:57:21] | Dagmar: | J-e-f-f-A: These are the ones I use |
| [03:57:28] | Dagmar: | That one is definitely loading with my PVR-500. |
| [03:57:29] | kormoc: | J-e-f-f-A, do you have problems? |
| [03:57:42] | Dagmar: | It might well be the problem RyeBrye is having |
| [03:57:44] | RyeBrye: | J-e-f-f-A – what is your md5sum? does it match mine? |
| [03:57:54] | Dagmar: | Aug 26 17:44:33 mythtv kernel: cx25840 0–0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes) |
| [03:58:05] | ** RyeBrye should have checked that ** | |
| [03:58:21] | ** RyeBrye is somewhat amazed by that uptime ** | |
| [03:58:26] | Dagmar: | The IVTV site is almost less than useless on this becuase it says different things in different places |
| [03:58:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | kormoc: Yeah, my 2nd tuner often has 'tinny/scratchy' audio, otherwise works fine. |
| [03:59:44] | RyeBrye: | J-e-f-f-A: does your md5sum match mine? (see my md5sum in that same post – I'm below dagmars |
| [04:00:33] | RyeBrye: | The version I'm using is the version that comes with 2.6.27... or at least I think that's where it comes from – since I haven't manually grabbed any firmware |
| [04:01:04] | clev: | RyeBrye: apt? |
| [04:01:29] | RyeBrye: | clev – perhaps |
| [04:01:54] | clev: | RyeBrye: dpkg -L packagename will show you all files in the package |
| [04:02:07] | clev: | use it on the kernel package, and youll see if it came with any firmware files |
| [04:03:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | RyeBrye: Yeah, my m5f for v4l-cx25840.fw matches yours. |
| [04:03:22] | Dagmar: | I was thinking I got my firmware somewhere else but I dunno |
| [04:03:29] | Dagmar: | I know the bulk of it I got from the alpha driver |
| [04:03:38] | J-e-f-f-A: | ...er s/m5f/md5/ ... ;-) |
| [04:03:41] | Dagmar: | It's been so long |
| [04:04:04] | J-e-f-f-A: | [ot].... Red Sox did it and tied up the series... ;-) |
| [04:04:07] | Dagmar: | Amity... that's the word I was looking for |
| [04:04:23] | Dagmar: | LIke, I snagged whta i found at ftp://ftp.hauppauge.com/Support/PVR150/Beta/0 . . . erelease.zip |
| [04:05:09] | Dagmar: | ...which oh-so-amusingly doesn't match what it's supposed to on the ivtv page about it |
| [04:05:29] | onexused: | My card also doesn't seem to be decoding closed captions. |
| [04:05:48] | onexused: | At least, from TV channels. |
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| [04:12:26] | cwsmith: | anyone good with myth error codes :) |
| [04:14:43] | Dagmar: | No, because it doesn't use them |
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| [04:22:08] | Kazan: | Dumb: Parking in someone's spot there you're not authorized, so you get towed. |
| [04:22:22] | Kazan: | Dumber: Finding out who owns the spot so you can yell in their face for having you towed. |
| [04:22:30] | Kazan: | Dumbest: Said person has 9" and 100lbs on you |
| [04:25:22] | RyeBrye: | I wonder if this PVR-500 card is just cursed. My friend gave it to me, because he wasn't using it (but I'm not sure why he wasn't using it). Maybe I'll just put in my known-good PVR-500 card... but I've tested it and I know it can capture stuff to a file if I do it manually... |
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| [04:28:54] | Tann: | Hello |
| [04:29:32] | Tann: | I am working on building a multimedia computer and I was wondering if anyone could help me. |
| [04:29:46] | RyeBrye: | sorry... I only deal in one media |
| [04:29:48] | RyeBrye: | ;) |
| [04:29:56] | Tann: | lol. |
| [04:30:04] | Tann: | its ok, |
| [04:31:39] | wagnerrp: | the wiki has a lot of general information |
| [04:31:45] | wagnerrp: | what did you want to know specifically |
| [04:32:18] | Tann: | I'm trying to find out about the pci cards and what they would be called. |
| [04:32:23] | wagnerrp: | tuner cards |
| [04:32:34] | wagnerrp: | or video capture cards |
| [04:32:44] | kormoc: | depends on the card. Some are network cards, some are video cards, some are sounds cards, some are usb cards... |
| [04:32:58] | Tann: | Yeah. |
| [04:33:06] | Tann: | Its more along the lines of video |
| [04:33:27] | kormoc: | Tann, rather then playing 20 questions, might want to just explain what you're after |
| [04:33:35] | Tann: | yeah |
| [04:33:46] | Tann: | I'm working on it, I'm looking up some other stuff about it to. |
| [04:33:52] | wagnerrp: | building a htpc, and has no idea where to start. basically... |
| [04:34:00] | Tann: | I need to have a coaxial input, and also a coaxial or RCA out put. |
| [04:34:21] | wagnerrp: | RCA is more correctly called composite |
| [04:34:38] | wagnerrp: | rather, RCA video is composite |
| [04:34:38] | kormoc: | Standard Analog Cable or Digital cable or something else? |
| [04:34:50] | RyeBrye: | or antenna? |
| [04:35:08] | wagnerrp: | you DO NOT want coaxial output |
| [04:35:25] | wagnerrp: | rca is a minimum, svideo is better, VGA or component is better, hdmi/dvi is best |
| [04:35:47] | Tann: | I am pretty sure its analouge. What I have set up is a digital cable box, that goes through the VCR and then to the TV. |
| [04:36:10] | kormoc: | Tann, well, the digital cable box would more point to digital cable... |
| [04:36:16] | Tann: | I have a TV, but it doesn't have VGA or the HDMI/DIV |
| [04:36:30] | RyeBrye: | yeah, but it probably have componen (red/white/ |
| [04:36:41] | RyeBrye: | err composite (red, white, yellow) input, right? |
| [04:36:44] | Tann: | yup |
| [04:36:45] | wagnerrp: | you want a capture card, specifically an IVTV card (mpeg encoders) |
| [04:36:58] | Tann: | Thank you very much! |
| [04:37:03] | wagnerrp: | look for a pvr 150/250/350/500 |
| [04:37:07] | kormoc: | Unless you have HD channels |
| [04:37:19] | RyeBrye: | wagnerrp – those ones are replaced with newer model numbers now |
| [04:37:26] | RyeBrye: | same cards, basically, but newer model numbers |
| [04:37:29] | wagnerrp: | if the tv has only composite inputs, theres not much use for HD capture |
| [04:37:43] | Tann: | yeah, no HD |
| [04:38:02] | kormoc: | Tann, you'll also want/need a ir blaster for the digital cable box |
| [04:38:07] | wagnerrp: | use the tuner as a capture card, plug the video output from the STB into the tuner |
| [04:38:31] | RyeBrye: | It's such a pain working on a backend that is also live... because I can't shut it down and swap out a card because it's busy recording right now! :P |
| [04:39:06] | Tann: | kormoc: what exactally is an IR blaster? |
| [04:39:24] | kormoc: | Tann, basically it's a device that emulates a remote and allows a computer to control the cable box |
| [04:39:29] | wagnerrp: | an ir blaster is a device plugged into a computer that 'blasts' an ir signal |
| [04:39:56] | Tann: | ok |
| [04:40:26] | Tann: | so this I would guess would replace the remote given to me by the cable company, correct? |
| [04:40:34] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [04:40:39] | Tann: | cool. |
| [04:40:47] | wagnerrp: | you use your remote control on the mythtv box |
| [04:40:53] | wagnerrp: | and then the mythtv box controls the tuner |
| [04:40:57] | wagnerrp: | the STB rather |
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| [04:41:40] | Tann: | ok, so the STB is the Digital Cable box, correct? |
| [04:41:44] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [04:41:50] | wagnerrp: | set-top-box |
| [04:41:52] | fryfrog: | stb means... |
| [04:41:54] | fryfrog: | bah, to slow :p |
| [04:41:55] | Tann: | thank you so much. |
| [04:42:24] | wagnerrp: | note that mythtv requires dedicated hardware |
| [04:42:42] | wagnerrp: | if you have it set up to capture video from an STB, you cannot use that box for anything else |
| [04:43:23] | wagnerrp: | mythtv wants dedicated control over the STB |
| [04:43:41] | Tann: | ok. I didn't plan on using if for anything else |
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| [04:44:02] | wagnerrp: | i mean you cannot also plug the STB directly into the tv, and use it manually |
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| [04:53:49] | Tann: | yeah, this computer I'm working on was going to be the center of all of the connections. |
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| [04:59:09] | jmichels1n: | RIDDLE ME THIS: I have a remote that only works if I have a mouse AND keyboard plugged into the machine. If it boots without them or with just one or the other, the remote wont work, any clues? |
| [04:59:35] | jmichels1n: | if its working and I unplug them, it continues to work till its rebooted |
| [04:59:51] | wagnerrp: | so its a keyboard emulator, rather than a proper lirc remote |
| [05:01:33] | jmichels1n: | wagnerrp: yea |
| [05:01:42] | jmichels1n: | wagnerrp: is that common with emulation? |
| [05:02:01] | wagnerrp: | never used one |
| [05:02:38] | Tann: | ok, a couple more questions. Does anyone have a tuner card they could suggest? and Does anyone know of a good remote kit (or what ever it is called) |
| [05:02:56] | jmichels1n: | wagnerrp: does that makes sense to you though? |
| [05:03:04] | wagnerrp: | for analog, get an ivtv card |
| [05:03:24] | jmichels1n: | wagnerrp: kinda does to me, maybe needs something to emulate? bleh I dunno |
| [05:03:37] | wagnerrp: | jmichels1n: i would imagine that would function as a keyboard, and would take the place of one |
| [05:03:44] | wagnerrp: | so software wouldnt care |
| [05:03:59] | wagnerrp: | unless its not a hardware emulator |
| [05:04:11] | wagnerrp: | and you have a different software package running your remote |
| [05:04:42] | wagnerrp: | Tann: ivtv cards are the pvr-150/250/350/500 line, along with a handful of other cards |
| [05:04:58] | wagnerrp: | i cant suggest anything else for analog capture/tuning |
| [05:05:07] | Tann: | ok. |
| [05:05:22] | jmichels1n: | Tann: i hear good things about the HDHomeRun and its on sale at newegg |
| [05:05:24] | wagnerrp: | as for blaster, some variants of that card come with one |
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| [05:05:36] | jmichels1n: | Tann: seems a good price compared to others and its a dual tuner |
| [05:05:42] | wagnerrp: | jmichels1n: hdhr is digital, hes looking to capture encrypted digital cable |
| [05:05:55] | jmichels1n: | wagnerrp: oh gotcha |
| [05:05:56] | wagnerrp: | encrypted cable, you need to capture over analog |
| [05:06:28] | jmichels1n: | wagnerrp: k cool |
| [05:06:30] | Tann: | I'm rather lost. |
| [05:06:36] | wagnerrp: | anyway, ive heard mixed issues with the hauppauge blasters (ive had no problem with my receiver, but ive not used the blaster) |
| [05:06:44] | Tann: | What do you mean by the pvr-150/250/350/500 line |
| [05:06:59] | wagnerrp: | those are four most common ivtv cards |
| [05:07:15] | Tann: | Is it a specific brand? |
| [05:07:28] | wagnerrp: | ivtv is not, but those four cards are all from hauppauge |
| [05:07:39] | Tann: | ok. |
| [05:07:59] | wagnerrp: | ive heard the MCE remotes getting recommended around here a lot |
| [05:08:28] | jmichels1n: | yea they are supposed to work real well, funny considering they are an MS product for the most part ;) |
| [05:08:41] | jmichels1n: | made by panasonic i think though |
| [05:10:02] | iamlindoro_: | Philips |
| [05:10:20] | iamlindoro_: | and they only have a microsoft name stamped on them, that's af deep as it goes |
| [05:10:57] | Tann: | wagnerrp: so I would guess using the 150 would be like having a normal old tv? |
| [05:11:19] | wagnerrp: | mythtv will never be like having a normal old tv |
| [05:11:33] | wagnerrp: | you will always have a ~3 second lag |
| [05:12:04] | wagnerrp: | that lag exists when changing channels as well |
| [05:12:07] | Tann: | ok. I'm just wondering because I don't see much difference between the 150/250/350 |
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| [05:12:44] | wagnerrp: | also, for analog, youre going to use some quality because of the additional analog to digital to analog conversion |
| [05:12:48] | fryfrog: | Tann: 150 and 500 are very similiar, the 500 is just two 150s on a pci card |
| [05:12:50] | wagnerrp: | s/use/lose/ |
| [05:13:03] | fryfrog: | 250 is older, came before the 150 (prolly can't buy one new) |
| [05:13:23] | Tann: | ok. thanks |
| [05:13:25] | wagnerrp: | the 250 and 350 are almost identical, the 350 includes a mpeg decoder and framebuffer, not something you should care about |
| [05:13:31] | wagnerrp: | the 150 just uses a different chipset |
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| [05:13:48] | fryfrog: | Generally you can get 3x 150s for the price of one 500 |
| [05:13:51] | fryfrog: | which kind of sucks :p |
| [05:13:56] | fryfrog: | unless you are low on pci slots perhaps |
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| [05:17:13] | Tann: | ah. I hope I'm not bugging you guys. |
| [05:17:46] | Tann: | I'm wondering if this is the right one. It is different then the one I saw on hauppauge's site. http://www.amazon.com/Hauppauge-Computer-Work . . . 1&sr=8-3 |
| [05:18:05] | Tann: | (woops, guess I could have used a tinyurl) |
| [05:18:14] | wagnerrp: | assuming you get a 150 instead of a 1600, yes |
| [05:18:20] | fryfrog: | from the title it looks right |
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| [05:18:33] | wagnerrp: | of course the 1600 is perfectly usable now too |
| [05:18:50] | wagnerrp: | support for it is now relatively stable |
| [05:18:55] | fignuts: | could mythtv be controlled completely via command line? |
| [05:18:58] | fignuts: | using ssh |
| [05:19:25] | wagnerrp: | no, you cant do anything with mythtv from the command line (aside from the initial flags) |
| [05:19:42] | wagnerrp: | only the telnet server |
| [05:19:58] | fignuts: | i could telnet into it and control it? |
| [05:20:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: that's not true, ther'es a telnet remote control for the frontend... ^^^ yeah. |
| [05:20:14] | Tann: | wagnerrp: So a 1600 would work for my purposes? |
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| [05:20:32] | fignuts: | say i told it to play a song via telnet, would the on-screen stuff respond, showing the file playign? |
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| [05:20:58] | wagnerrp: | you wouldnt tell it to play a song via telnet |
| [05:21:16] | wagnerrp: | you would give it the keyboard shortcuts to navigate mythmusic |
| [05:21:31] | wagnerrp: | there is no 'play this_song.mp3' |
| [05:21:46] | fignuts: | damn |
| [05:21:53] | wagnerrp: | but anyway, yes, you are directly controlling the frontend |
| [05:22:06] | fignuts: | not as directly as i'd like to, tho |
| [05:22:23] | Tann: | wagnerrp: er, its a HVR-1600 corect? |
| [05:22:56] | wagnerrp: | Tann: a 1600 is a digital tuner card combined with an ivtv card |
| [05:23:10] | wagnerrp: | so it would work fine for your purposes |
| [05:23:22] | Tann: | ok. I think I'm goign with that 150 since its cheaper. |
| [05:23:34] | wagnerrp: | im just mentioning this because for some time, 1600s were being shipped in place of the 150s |
| [05:23:46] | wagnerrp: | you buy a 150, and they send you a 1600 in the 150's box |
| [05:24:04] | wagnerrp: | it was a problem because at the time, the 1600 did not have linux support |
| [05:24:48] | Tann: | ok. |
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| [05:26:28] | Tann: | Now I need to look for a remote |
| [05:27:05] | Tann: | Are the usuall windows compatible ones compatible with mithbuntu |
| [05:27:10] | Tann: | er, mythtv rather |
| [05:27:25] | wagnerrp: | no remotes are compatible with mythtv |
| [05:27:34] | wagnerrp: | mythtv supports lirc, so you need one compatible with lirc |
| [05:27:51] | wagnerrp: | Linux Infrared Remote Control |
| [05:28:00] | wagnerrp: | www.lirc.org |
| [05:28:12] | Tann: | ok |
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| [05:30:06] | Tann: | ok, I think just one final question. What will i do for an ir adapter so that i can use the ir device with the computer. |
| [05:30:55] | wagnerrp: | check out the lirc site, they list the supported devices |
| [05:31:03] | wagnerrp: | some require a special remote |
| [05:31:07] | wagnerrp: | some can be used with any remote |
| [05:32:38] | Tann: | ok, so the lirc is for the actually ir adapters that get plugged into the computer? |
| [05:34:11] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [05:35:56] | Tann: | ok, and then the compatibility of the actually remote depends on the adapter. |
| [05:36:09] | Tann: | wow. I think I've got it down now. |
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| [06:02:01] | Tann: | oh, one last thing. |
| [06:02:07] | cwsmith: | anyone good with myth error codes :) |
| [06:02:12] | Tann: | What should I do about output? |
| [06:02:19] | Tann: | wagnerrp: I guess you are still there?> |
| [06:02:29] | kormoc: | cwsmith, what's a myth error code? |
| [06:02:34] | cwsmith: | MythSocket(b2aaa608:16): writeStringList: No data written on writeBlock |
| [06:02:47] | cwsmith: | :) |
| [06:02:51] | kormoc: | well, that's not a error code, that's a error message :P |
| [06:03:08] | kormoc: | but really, we'd need more of the output (and use a pastebin please) |
| [06:03:12] | cwsmith: | lol hahah ya but i have tried everything to resolve it and i just got it again this afternoon :) |
| [06:03:19] | cwsmith: | pastebin ? |
| [06:03:23] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [06:03:31] | Tann: | Anyone know a decent method of video output to svideo? |
| [06:03:35] | wagnerrp: | get an nvidia card |
| [06:03:40] | kormoc: | cwsmith, http://pastebin.ca/ |
| [06:04:06] | wagnerrp: | Tann: modern video cards autodetect outputs |
| [06:04:20] | wagnerrp: | connect nothing but the svideo, and the card will output on svideo |
| [06:04:28] | Tann: | ok. Thanks. |
| [06:04:44] | Tann: | What video cards do you suggest? |
| [06:04:49] | wagnerrp: | nvidia or intel |
| [06:04:53] | Tann: | ok. thanks |
| [06:04:57] | Tann: | I |
| [06:04:59] | Tann: | I |
| [06:05:03] | Tann: | ggrr. sorry |
| [06:05:14] | Tann: | I'll probably go with nvidia. |
| [06:05:25] | wagnerrp: | anything 5-series or better |
| [06:05:36] | fryfrog: | is intel really as nice in linux as nvidia? |
| [06:05:52] | wagnerrp: | not at all |
| [06:05:55] | fryfrog: | haha |
| [06:06:00] | fryfrog: | better than ati though? |
| [06:06:04] | wagnerrp: | but it works just as well for mythtv's purposes |
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| [06:06:11] | wagnerrp: | all mythtv cares about is xv |
| [06:06:19] | wagnerrp: | and intel chips do that just fine |
| [06:07:32] | wagnerrp: | ati makes nice claims |
| [06:07:48] | wagnerrp: | supposedly, they even do more hardware offloading than nvidia chips with xvmc |
| [06:07:56] | wagnerrp: | theyre just not reliable |
| [06:10:10] | cwsmith: | ok kormoc here is pastebin |
| [06:10:14] | cwsmith: | http://pastebin.ca/1230783 |
| [06:17:10] | orkid: | there is no xvmc yet with ati in linux |
| [06:17:33] | orkid: | but usvd is supposedly in the 8.10 driver, but no one has figured out how to get it to work or something |
| [06:17:40] | orkid: | usvd => uvd |
| [06:17:45] | wagnerrp: | something like that |
| [06:17:50] | orkid: | yea |
| [06:17:55] | wagnerrp: | that was the thing last week? |
| [06:17:59] | orkid: | yea |
| [06:18:15] | orkid: | this whole thing is kinda sketchy... why cant the devs just tell the people whats going on |
| [06:18:23] | orkid: | or ati make some statements |
| [06:18:43] | orkid: | give a roadmap, some dates, even if they might be pushed back... |
| [06:18:45] | ** orkid sighs ** | |
| [06:22:07] | wagnerrp: | my left monitor just... died |
| [06:22:40] | wagnerrp: | ah, nevermind! it just switched inputs |
| [06:25:04] | Tann: | lol. Thanks for all of your help!! I have a really nice computer's parts ready to be ordered. |
| [06:25:29] | wagnerrp: | for SD video, you dont need much of a computer |
| [06:25:43] | wagnerrp: | an old box filled with hard drives is more than sufficient |
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| [06:26:44] | clev: | wagnerrp: i recently shoved a 80gig drive into a 133mhz system just to use as a storage group :P |
| [06:27:09] | clev: | i dont think the bugger can even handle xvid, but it works fine as a nfs server |
| [06:27:15] | wagnerrp: | thats not an old box, thats an antique |
| [06:27:32] | wagnerrp: | there is no chance of it ever playing xvid |
| [06:27:52] | wagnerrp: | maybe something of the resolution of a cell phone |
| [06:27:53] | clev: | the ati card does a spinning logo on bootup(before bios) to try and show off its 3d core :P |
| [06:28:18] | clev: | i dont think it even has anti aliasing enabled... |
| [06:28:46] | clev: | and ive not run X on it in years because it killed the 64mb of ram |
| [06:28:48] | wagnerrp: | antialiasing was a geforce-era technology |
| [06:29:00] | clev: | 00:0b.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage II+ 215GTB [Mach64 GTB] (rev 9a) |
| [06:29:02] | wagnerrp: | geforce and radeons |
| [06:29:27] | clev: | would the above be older?:P |
| [06:29:27] | wagnerrp: | that was a popular onboard chip |
| [06:29:50] | clev: | yeah, it sounds similar to my laptop 'board' |
| [06:29:52] | wagnerrp: | ive acquired and tossed a handful of machines with those |
| [06:29:57] | clev: | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x (rev 02) |
| [06:30:26] | wagnerrp: | the M3 is (multiple) generations beyond the Rage 2 |
| [06:30:37] | clev: | lol |
| [06:30:56] | clev: | and the M3 cant even handle compiz :P |
| [06:31:12] | wagnerrp: | yes it can, youre just not doing it right |
| [06:31:23] | wagnerrp: | the M3 cannot handle 24-bit color and opengl at the same time |
| [06:31:33] | ** clev checks opengl... ** | |
| [06:31:45] | wagnerrp: | drop to 16-bit, and it works just fine |
| [06:31:58] | clev: | direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose) |
| [06:32:15] | clev: | ah |
| [06:32:35] | clev: | edit xorg.conf to lower the colors, or can xrandr change it at runtime? |
| [06:32:56] | wagnerrp: | xorg.conf |
| [06:33:28] | wagnerrp: | yep, mine is reporting 'Yes' |
| [06:33:48] | clev: | it looks like its got 16 and 24 in the config allready |
| [06:33:54] | clev: | how would i control the default one? |
| [06:34:31] | clev: | wait wtf, it mentions 1400x1050... |
| [06:34:35] | wagnerrp: | 'DefaultDepth 16' in the screen section |
| [06:34:51] | clev: | ah |
| [06:35:23] | clev: | now to wait for ff to shutdown |
| [06:37:41] | clev: | back |
| [06:37:52] | clev: | direct rendering: Yes |
| [06:37:56] | clev: | holy shit it worked! |
| [06:38:33] | clev: | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) – Fatal: Root visual is not a double buffered GL vis |
| [06:38:36] | clev: | ual |
| [06:38:36] | clev: | not fully though |
| [06:38:36] | wagnerrp: | i went through all this maybe 2 years ago |
| [06:38:54] | wagnerrp: | threw up my arms, yelled success, and decided i didnt want compiz anyway |
| [06:39:00] | clev: | lol |
| [06:39:02] | wagnerrp: | but at least i could run tecplot properly |
| [06:39:49] | clev: | /usr/bin/compiz.real (core) – Fatal: Root visual is not a double buffered GL visual |
| [06:39:54] | clev: | any idea on that one? |
| [06:41:03] | wagnerrp: | what resolution are you running? |
| [06:41:29] | clev: | 1024x768 |
| [06:42:03] | wagnerrp: | thats all of 1.5MB per frame, it should have no problem double buffering with that |
| [06:42:04] | clev: | o god is it ever fuzzy at 800x600! |
| [06:42:44] | clev: | and it has the same error at 800x600 |
| [06:42:47] | wagnerrp: | thats because your running off resolution on an LCD, moreso an old one with a poor scaler |
| [06:43:18] | clev: | yeah i know |
| [06:43:32] | clev: | the damaged to the lcd itself doesnt help either |
| [06:43:35] | wagnerrp: | of course my laptop looks better at 800x600 than at 1024x768 |
| [06:43:49] | clev: | there is red green and blue 'snow' (random half on pixels) everywhere |
| [06:43:52] | wagnerrp: | it can map directly, rather than have to scale |
| [06:43:55] | clev: | and 3 nice stripes down the side |
| [06:44:10] | wagnerrp: | native is 1600x1200 |
| [06:44:12] | clev: | and sometimes, the low order bits come loose and certain shades colors flicker |
| [06:44:33] | wagnerrp: | meaning for full buffering, i use nearly half the video memory |
| [06:45:43] | clev: | visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat |
| [06:45:47] | clev: | damn irssi :P |
| [06:45:50] | clev: | visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav |
| [06:45:52] | clev: | id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat |
| [06:46:05] | clev: | im guessing one of those is for double buffering |
| [06:48:22] | cwsmith: | hey kormoc are you there? |
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| [06:55:20] | FisherPrice: | Um I'm trying to import a DVD, I'm using mythbuntu 8.04 and I've checked the /dev/dvd link and it's pointing to /dev/scd0 but I can't seem to transcode anything |
| [06:57:46] | Anduin: | FisherPrice: transcoding requires transcode, if you look at mtd.log you should see some error |
| [07:01:37] | FisherPrice: | Hrm maybe I'm not used to Mythtv It's new |
| [07:01:43] | FisherPrice: | to me totally |
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| [07:01:56] | FisherPrice: | can i ask if something is normal |
| [07:02:16] | FisherPrice: | If i have a trascode job.. I set it running |
| [07:02:35] | FisherPrice: | when it ends succussfully is mythtv suppose to say "you have no jobs" |
| [07:02:39] | FisherPrice: | or something like that |
| [07:02:43] | FisherPrice: | or should it say |
| [07:02:55] | FisherPrice: | "your jobs have been completed successfully? |
| [07:02:56] | FisherPrice: | " |
| [07:03:21] | Anduin: | FisherPrice: No jobs, you would only see it complete if you were watching |
| [07:03:38] | Anduin: | (the log will show it though) |
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| [07:04:35] | FisherPrice: | ok, sooooo it might be working. I just get this message that you have no jobs.. it's a little confusing really |
| [07:04:44] | FisherPrice: | but maybe it's becasue |
| [07:04:53] | FisherPrice: | because im new to mythtv |
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| [07:07:05] | Anduin: | Yeah, it could be failing as well, only the log (and/or the actual result) will show. |
| [07:15:51] | justdave: | what version of Myth is going to be in Ubuntu Intrepid? |
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| [07:17:46] | justdave: | trying to plan if I can upgrade one frontend to try it out or if I'm going to wind up having to do them all at once if there's a protocol change |
| [07:18:06] | fryfrog: | justdave: i personally use svn of mythtv |
| [07:18:11] | fryfrog: | helps aleviate those sort of problems |
| [07:18:27] | fryfrog: | but generally i still upgrade both at the same time (or maybe just one at a time, but all in the same go around) |
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| [08:49:09] | cwsmith: | anyone online that can help with mythbackend.log writesocket error ? |
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| [09:21:43] | SteveH: | Can I get some help troubleshooting a problem not being able to record? |
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| [09:47:22] | cwsmith: | anyone online now i need some help with buffering ? |
| [09:47:45] | laga: | you guys need to ask real question |
| [09:48:00] | Maliuta: | laga: why are we all here? |
| [09:48:09] | cwsmith: | http://pastebin.ca/1230783 |
| [09:48:13] | cwsmith: | thats a real question :) |
| [09:48:19] | cwsmith: | MythSocket(b2aaa608:16): writeStringList: No data written on writeBlock |
| [09:48:20] | Maliuta: | laga: what is the point of getting out of bed in the morning? ;P |
| [09:48:40] | laga: | Maliuta: i'm here because i like pain |
| [09:48:51] | laga: | and i got out of bed because i'm going to do some biking later |
| [09:48:54] | laga: | also, breakfast. |
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| [10:13:53] | johanh: | Is it possible to view HDTV (Cable in Norway) usin Mythtv? I get a message saying .. "h264.... not implemented" |
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| [10:15:24] | scant: | I can't seem to get RTCVideoSync working, /dev/rtc is readable and writeable by my mythtv user, but I still get "Could not set RTC frequency" |
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| [10:26:27] | laga: | johanh: you probably need to upgrade to the latest & greatest release-21-fixes branch |
| [10:26:40] | laga: | scant: check the wiki |
| [10:27:22] | scant: | laga: i checked the wiki |
| [10:27:29] | scant: | it's not that simple i don't think |
| [10:28:27] | scant: | as i said, my mythtv user has read and write permissions on /dev/rtc and my max-user-freq is 1024, but i still get permission denied for RTC sync |
| [10:28:54] | scant: | from the numerous searches i've done, the wiki doesn't addrees this particular issue |
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| [10:31:59] | johanh: | laga: I need to upgrade mythtv you say? I have 0.20.2–3lmce710 :P |
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| [10:45:56] | linagee: | what's the zap2it website? it's not updating anymore... ? |
| [10:46:26] | mchou: | linagee: what do you mean? |
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| [10:46:53] | linagee: | mchou: is there a website to check my subscription? |
| [10:47:08] | linagee: | oh schedulesdirect, that's right they changed names |
| [10:47:08] | mchou: | lol |
| [10:47:31] | mchou: | yes, schedulesdirect.org |
| [10:47:51] | mchou: | login to check your sub status |
| [10:48:27] | linagee: | i just renewed. i think i see what happened. |
| [10:48:27] | mchou: | Information Ctr in myth will also tell you when your sub expires |
| [10:48:37] | linagee: | when i renewed i forgot my password and changed it. |
| [10:48:42] | mchou: | lol |
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| [10:48:57] | linagee: | mchou: want to keep loling? and i forgot it again. :( |
| [10:49:03] | ** linagee tries different ones ** | |
| [10:49:19] | linagee: | hah! bingo |
| [10:49:58] | linagee: | yay! it's updating again. :-> |
| [10:50:26] | linagee: | (changed the schedulesdirect password to the one mythtv is using) |
| [10:50:56] | mchou: | linagee: you use clear qam by any chance? |
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| [10:53:39] | linagee: | mchou: clear qam? |
| [10:53:47] | linagee: | mchou: unencrypted qam? |
| [10:53:53] | mchou: | yes |
| [10:53:56] | linagee: | nope |
| [10:54:16] | linagee: | i think it might be available on my cable, but i don't have a tuner for it |
| [10:54:25] | mchou: | linagee: you use STB? |
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| [10:56:45] | linagee: | mchou: not sure what that is |
| [10:57:11] | mchou: | linagee: Are you in the stone age? |
| [10:57:55] | linagee: | mchou: what is STB? |
| [10:58:20] | mchou: | linagee: forget it. if you need to ask you dont have it |
| [10:58:34] | linagee: | stb = set top box? why would i use one of those? |
| [10:59:10] | mchou: | umm, cause you might want to record channels like HBO? |
| [11:05:09] | linagee: | no HBO here |
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| [11:07:04] | linagee: | mchou: no shows good enough. :) |
| [11:07:56] | mchou: | linagee: netflix? |
| [11:08:02] | linagee: | mchou: do you watch heroes? did hiro kill ando? wtf? |
| [11:08:19] | mchou: | nope, dont watch heros |
| [11:08:33] | hume: | hi.. a question about deleting channels (so they are neither visible in programguide nor when browsing through channels while watching live TV: how do I do this? in mythtv-setup, there is only an option for deleting ALL channels, not just one. Should deleting them in mythweb do the job? |
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| [11:08:53] | linagee: | mchou: fringe? |
| [11:09:05] | Dibblah: | hume: Press menu on a channel. |
| [11:09:11] | mchou: | linagee: nope, I'm certain I dont watch any show you watch |
| [11:09:17] | linagee: | mchou: ROFL. |
| [11:09:26] | Dibblah: | Or use the button mapped to delete... |
| [11:09:45] | linagee: | mchou: did you hack into my mythtv box or something? |
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| [11:09:56] | hume: | Dibblah, press menu while watching tv? |
| [11:10:18] | mchou: | linagee: nope. dont need to. your responses tell me everything I need to know |
| [11:10:26] | linagee: | mchou: ?!?!? |
| [11:10:29] | hume: | Dibblah, what button mapped to delete? don't follow you there |
| [11:10:41] | linagee: | mchou: you only watch HBO shows or something? |
| [11:10:50] | Dibblah: | If you've mapped a button to "D", I think, you can delete directly. |
| [11:11:00] | Dibblah: | hume: In mythtv-setup. |
| [11:11:02] | mchou: | linagee: when did I say that? |
| [11:11:31] | hume: | Dibblah, if I don't have mapped a button to "D" – how do I do it? |
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| [11:12:03] | Dibblah: | ... Press menu with the channel selected in mythtv-setup. |
| [11:14:30] | hume: | Dibblah, ah, great, thx |
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| [12:06:43] | firestorm: | Hi. mythbackend works when I run interactively, but the /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend script fails to start it .. as with running it automated from rc.local or /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ... any thoughts? |
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| [12:20:43] | pbj: | After and total reinstall of my setup at home – I'm not able to call and external tuner change channel script! just getting ChannelBase: external tuning program exited with error 1 – is there any solution for that problem. Ive tried to run the script as root manually – and it'll work fine. tried also su myth in front |
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| [12:33:19] | sphery: | pbj: add the line "return 0" to the end of the script or fix your script such that the commands that execute don't result in an error (which is occurring, whether you notice or not--run the script manually and then "echo $?" to see the exit status and note that non-zero is an error) |
| [12:36:14] | sphery: | firestorm (though you're not here): most likely the environment from which you run init scripts does not have a proper HOME environment variable set, so you need to ensure it's set in your mythtv-backend script |
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| [12:45:05] | pbj: | sphery: I thought this should have been OK – Isn't that what you was thinking about http://pastebin.ca/1230930 |
| [12:47:55] | sphery: | yeah, that's pretty much what I meant |
| [12:48:25] | sphery: | just run it until you get 0 exit status at the command line, then test with Myth |
| [12:51:36] | pbj: | Sorry – but can you explain that a little bit more – Caurse it runs perfect with /patch/ch:inet1.sh 2 --> changes to 2 with out problems – but Myth exits with that error. And I'm not sure what you mean |
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| [12:59:05] | sphery: | pbj: run command, "echo $?" to see exit status |
| [12:59:07] | sphery: | must be 0 |
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| [13:00:36] | pbj: | It is 0 – that's the exitstatus |
| [13:03:52] | pbj: | the scriot is placed in /scripts/ch_inet1.sh --> So in setup I've tried external commands: /scripts/ch_inet1.sh and su myth /scripts/ch_inet1.sh -> and both fails. ANd my useal user is myth |
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| [14:26:30] | pbj: | Well – Now I'm trying to setup my DVB-S card – and the scanner seems to fails and exits the mthtv-setup each time – and the external scanner link doesn't work. But is it normal that the setup exits while scanning on DVB-s |
| [14:29:10] | laga: | yes |
| [14:29:17] | laga: | use taskset -c 0 |
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| [14:37:28] | fignuts: | hello |
| [14:37:39] | fignuts: | can one front-end use hardware from another front-end? |
| [14:38:00] | GreyFoxx: | uhhh huh ? |
| [14:38:22] | GreyFoxx: | What do you mean by that > |
| [14:38:24] | fignuts: | well say i'm in the bedroom and i want to control the usb-uirt attached to my living room pc |
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| [14:39:36] | GreyFoxx: | Well, since that is an IR reciever you would need some way to send the IR signal to it |
| [14:40:17] | fignuts: | ok |
| [14:40:30] | fignuts: | so i gotta get off the notions i've gotten from linux mce |
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| [14:41:04] | GreyFoxx: | having never used lce I couldn't say for sure :) |
| [14:41:08] | GreyFoxx: | err mce |
| [14:41:21] | GreyFoxx: | I installed it once in aVM as a test, and that's it :) |
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| [14:43:43] | keverets: | is anyone using component output with their myth box? |
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| [14:44:52] | keverets: | I need component output to my TV (which only does 1080i) |
| [14:45:12] | keverets: | fwict, this used to require either an nVidia card with terrible overscan, or an AudioAuthority 9a60 |
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| [16:09:45] | scant: | is there a bug in mythtv with RTCVideoSync? no matter what I do I can't use it, getting permission denied, i've read tons of information on the issue, and don't know how to resolve it, mplayer seems to be able to access /dev/rtc fine, but myth can't |
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| [16:58:34] | joomla_user: | essalam aleikum , hope no indifels here today |
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| [17:17:49] | ChinoChano: | night guys, |
| [17:18:38] | ChinoChano: | i installed some time ago mythtv. never managed to get a nice TV image though. now my computer is slow. awfully slow. And i found out yesterday that in ctrl alt f8 there s the main MYTHTV Menu running... |
| [17:19:05] | ChinoChano: | however, /etc/init.d/mythbackend is stopped. and I don t know how to make mythtv do not run at startup... any clue? |
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| [17:20:34] | ChinoChano: | this must use so much my CPU and GC... (2 displays) |
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| [17:28:23] | Anduin: | ChinoChano: the menu is mythfrontend not mythbackend, there are many ways for mythfrontend to automatically start, if you mention your distro and used packages someone may know specifics |
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| [17:35:11] | ChinoChano: | ok so mytfrontend is running then under alt f8 |
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| [17:35:15] | ChinoChano: | I am under gentoo |
| [17:36:12] | ChinoChano: | 0.21_p18116 |
| [17:37:00] | ChinoChano: | i know it has to be updated, but this is not relevant (I dare say) here... i can t remember how I did it start automaticlly... |
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| [17:44:38] | wagnerrp: | your frontend is running on an x-server |
| [17:44:49] | wagnerrp: | which is consuming virtual terminal 8 |
| [17:45:12] | wagnerrp: | gentoo will not set that up for you automatically |
| [17:45:26] | wagnerrp: | so this is something you did |
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| [18:18:01] | scant: | is there a way to play SVCDs in MythTV? |
| [18:18:32] | scant: | can I browse a VCD/SVCDs contents within MythTV? |
| [18:18:44] | kormoc: | they play as if they are dvds |
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| [18:19:10] | scant: | kormoc: when I insert a SVCD and try to play as dvd, nothing happens... |
| [18:19:33] | kormoc: | scant, try running the play vcd menu entry? |
| [18:19:49] | scant: | kormoc: nothing happens, but i will verify again... |
| [18:20:50] | scant: | kormoc: what is the proper usage? insert SVCD and use Play DVD or Play VCD? |
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| [18:21:55] | kormoc: | they both basically do the same thing with the Internal player iirc |
| [18:22:01] | Anduin: | there is no native SVCD support in mythtv, the menu entry just calls an external player |
| [18:22:35] | scant: | Anduin: I don't use the external player, and from what I understand MythTV 0.21 uses Internal as defaults now so that's what's recommended |
| [18:22:51] | GreyFoxx: | scan: The VCD player is defined seperately than the regular video player |
| [18:23:12] | GreyFoxx: | So you need to define an external player for VCDs |
| [18:23:18] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [18:23:25] | Anduin: | or install mplayer (the default VCD play command) |
| [18:23:30] | scant: | GreyFoxx: but I don't like using external players, let me rephrase the question |
| [18:23:40] | kormoc: | I would swore that I've used the internal player for svcds |
| [18:23:42] | scant: | is there a way to play SVCDs in MythTV using the Internal player? |
| [18:23:46] | GreyFoxx: | No |
| [18:23:51] | GreyFoxx: | there is not |
| [18:24:04] | scant: | if not, is there an easy way to browse the contents of an optical disc within MythTV without using the Auto-Insert notifications? |
| [18:24:06] | GreyFoxx: | VCD/SVCD require external players |
| [18:24:18] | scant: | GreyFoxx: VCD does not require external players |
| [18:24:27] | justinh: | wtf is a VCD? |
| [18:24:35] | wagnerrp: | video cd |
| [18:24:38] | GreyFoxx: | scant: The internal myth player will not play a vcd |
| [18:24:54] | wagnerrp: | about an hour of mpeg1 on a cd at piss poor resolution |
| [18:25:09] | justinh: | wtf is a 'video cd' ? :P |
| [18:25:11] | scant: | ok, i'll verify the internal mythtv player not being able to handle vcds |
| [18:25:19] | Anduin: | justinh: You don't really want to know :) |
| [18:25:31] | GreyFoxx: | scan: AS for browsing the contents of a disc,m you could have something auto mount it to a player under mythvideo and have mythvideo browse the file system |
| [18:25:34] | justinh: | ooh them. I saw them on sale in China when I was there in 1998 |
| [18:25:54] | GreyFoxx: | I have tons of them :) Mostly imported from Malaysia like 8 years ag :) |
| [18:26:10] | scant: | I can't play the HD PVR samples on the mythtv wiki with sound, MythTV verbose logging says it can't find the AAC decoder, I installed faad, but it still doesn't work |
| [18:26:47] | justinh: | scant: mythfrontend --version to see if myth is built with aac support |
| [18:26:50] | GreyFoxx: | Everytime I look at them I think about what it would take to add vcd support and there doesnt seemto be a common VCD library and I don't wanna write one frmo scratch |
| [18:27:15] | keverets: | scant: what are you using for hd output? |
| [18:27:15] | Anduin: | every time I look at the VCD menu I think about deleting it |
| [18:27:16] | justinh: | scant: hint.. if it's a package it may not be |
| [18:27:22] | scant: | justinh: it didn't, so I reconfigured and re-compiled mythtv with this --enable-libfaad configure option |
| [18:27:22] | GreyFoxx: | And: Heh |
| [18:27:27] | wagnerrp: | 8 years ago, i was leeching off the college OC3 |
| [18:27:38] | GreyFoxx: | Anduin: I cant imagine it's used much :) |
| [18:27:43] | scant: | justinh: but now I get usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.21.so.0: undefined symbol: faacDecOpen |
| [18:27:53] | justinh: | replace the VCD options with BD :D |
| [18:28:08] | ** justinh runs away ** | |
| [18:28:14] | wagnerrp: | instead of useless VCDs, ive got useless divx3.11 movies, with horrid quality, that cant play on my PS3 |
| [18:28:27] | Anduin: | GreyFoxx: Eventually I'll look at hiding menu items again, then let people remove it themselves |
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| [18:29:36] | keverets: | GreyFoxx: couldn't you use libvcdinfo to grab the contents, then your favourite mpeg library to decode them? |
| [18:30:20] | wagnerrp: | its not like any of those would have encryption |
| [18:30:46] | GreyFoxx: | keve: In my previous searches I hadn't come across that particular one. *checks it out* |
| [18:31:10] | GreyFoxx: | looks like vlc uses it |
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| [18:33:07] | scant: | justinh: why'd you run away? |
| [18:33:53] | mkrufky: | hello |
| [18:34:07] | wagnerrp: | because there is no BD decoding in linux |
| [18:34:11] | mkrufky: | does lossless transcode work for anybody at all anymore? |
| [18:34:19] | mkrufky: | last time i had it working was in 0.20 i think |
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| [18:34:56] | GreyFoxx: | mkr: It worked up til the qt4 switch, and it works for me on pvr card reecordings, but fails miserably with all my hdtv firewire recordings |
| [18:35:01] | mkrufky: | i think im wasting a few hundred gigs with commercials |
| [18:35:24] | mkrufky: | hmm ... do you think it pays to set up a dedicated box with old myth on it just for transcode jobs? |
| [18:35:34] | mkrufky: | oh wait, that wont work with incompatible protocols |
| [18:37:24] | mkrufky: | well, i am willing to set up a dedicated machine to do the transcode jobs, if that would make it work.... but i dont know if that would do it ... is there anything that can be done that u know about? |
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| [18:42:26] | ** justinh smacks ubuntu in the face ** | |
| [18:46:10] | ** justinh smacks ubuntu in the face again ** | |
| [18:46:52] | justinh: | arghhh just let me open firefox & don't hang there with the window in monochrome. ARGHHHHHHHHHHH |
| [18:47:21] | justinh: | and what's with the HDD led being on constantly?! FFS |
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| [19:19:47] | xbxb: | Hey, I'm using ubuntu 8.04 with HD 4850 and compiz. My tv card works, I have tried it with another TV software. I have just installed MythTV and I cannot run either MythTV frontend or the setup, because the screen gets very 'weird'. It looks like the screen is divided into several boxes which are all shuffled. |
| [19:19:58] | xbxb: | but I can get into the menu |
| [19:20:20] | xbxb: | When I kill mythtv, my screen gets normal after a few seconds... |
| [19:20:23] | xbxb: | what could cause this? |
| [19:20:44] | mkrufky: | are you using the fglrx driver, xbxb ? |
| [19:20:47] | xbxb: | yes |
| [19:20:56] | mkrufky: | ok, i see the same thing when i use fglrx |
| [19:21:07] | mkrufky: | i yanked out the ati card and put in an nvidia card |
| [19:21:09] | mkrufky: | now all is fine |
| [19:21:13] | mkrufky: | binary drivers suck |
| [19:21:31] | mkrufky: | (even tho im just using nvidia binary instead of ati binary) |
| [19:21:37] | xbxb: | well, I don't want to buy another card just to use mythtv. Is there no workaround? :( |
| [19:21:48] | mkrufky: | i dont know, i happen to have a lot of cards lying around |
| [19:22:04] | mkrufky: | but what i said is useful, because it implies that it might be a fglrx driver issue |
| [19:22:21] | mkrufky: | you might want to try a different version of the fglrx driver maybe? |
| [19:22:29] | mkrufky: | or also you can try the open source driver |
| [19:23:56] | xbxb: | where is it available? sorry, I'm new to linux |
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| [19:25:04] | mkrufky: | hmm, its a lot to explain |
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| [19:25:19] | mkrufky: | i would start, by making a backup of your file, " /etc/X11/xorg.conf " |
| [19:25:31] | mkrufky: | then google for info about using the radeon / ati / fglrx drivers |
| [19:25:41] | mkrufky: | and try some things based on what you find |
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| [19:25:47] | mkrufky: | if nothing works, then go back to your backup |
| [19:27:45] | xbxb: | OK |
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| [19:29:45] | xbxb: | gotta restart, brb |
| [19:29:50] | xbxb: | thank you so far |
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| [20:13:17] | Led-Hed: | how can I find the Hardware ID for a STB? |
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| [21:32:01] | Wicked: | hello all. im using a pvr-150 with svideo in and rca in audio. on some of my recordings the audio is very very tinny and cracking.....to the point where its very hard to hear what there saying. any ideas what could cause this? |
| [21:32:45] | Wicked: | ive noticed sometimes when watching live tv it will do this when i change a channel and to fix it i can rechange the channel and it goes back to normal |
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| [21:47:03] | scant: | can anyone help me getting AAC decoding working with the HD PVR samples on the mythtv wiki? |
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| [22:00:26] | GreyFoxx: | Did you compile in libfaac support ? |
| [22:00:32] | GreyFoxx: | and libfaad >? |
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| [22:00:49] | GreyFoxx: | I use the following with trunk and it plays those samples just fine |
| [22:00:51] | GreyFoxx: | >./configure --enable-xvmc --enable-opengl-vsync --enable-dvb --disable-dbox2 |
| [22:00:51] | GreyFoxx: | --with-bindings=perl --disable-liba52 --enable-firewire --compile-type=debug --e |
| [22:00:51] | GreyFoxx: | nable-opengl-video --enable-lirc --enable-libfaac --enable-libfaad --enable-proc |
| [22:00:57] | GreyFoxx: | -opt --enable-xvmc-opengl --qmake=/usr/lib/qt-4/bin/qmake |
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| [22:01:12] | GreyFoxx: | sorry,m I meant for that to be a single line |
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| [22:09:54] | scant: | GreyFoxx: hi |
| [22:10:22] | scant: | GreyFoxx: I didn't know MythTV's internal player didn't support VCDs, thanks for pointing that out to me |
| [22:11:48] | scant: | GreyFoxx: I'm compiling against 0.21-fixes revisoin 18704 with --enablefaad --enable-faac configure ouptions, but I get, symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libmythavcodec-0.21.so.0: undefined symbol: faacDecOpen |
| [22:12:09] | scant: | GreyFoxx: I think it might be because I don't have libfaad-dev installed, but I'm not sure |
| [22:12:34] | scant: | GreyFoxx: errr, --enable-faad |
| [22:13:19] | scant: | GreyFoxx: these are all the packages I know have installed: faac,faad, libfaac0, libfaad0, libfaad2–0, libmp4v2–0, libfaad-dev |
| [22:13:45] | scant: | GreyFoxx: and now I'm reconfiguring and recompiling again, I hope it works this time |
| [22:13:55] | Lord_Deathscythe: | I'm having problems getting mythtv to read my cable box over the composite view |
| [22:14:09] | Lord_Deathscythe: | mythbacked is reporting a fail from an external tuner program |
| [22:16:01] | Lord_Deathscythe: | I was also having the same problem as Wicked |
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| [22:25:03] | Lord_Deathscythe: | any ideas/ |
| [22:26:09] | scant: | no, but have you checked both the wiki and extensively searched the mailing list? |
| [22:28:26] | Dagmar: | scant: Remocw the OLD binaries and libraries before you attempt to build new ones. |
| [22:28:35] | Dagmar: | s/Remocw/Remove/; |
| [22:30:27] | scant: | Dagmar: thanks for replying, is there an easy way to do that? rm -rf /usr/lib/libmyth*? |
| [22:30:42] | Dagmar: | Perhaps. |
| [22:30:58] | Dagmar: | Smart people would learn how to make an installable package so they could cleanly remove it. |
| [22:31:24] | scant: | ok, thanks |
| [22:32:18] | Lord_Deathscythe: | I use gentoo so I let portage handle that |
| [22:32:28] | Lord_Deathscythe: | thing is I had video functioning just fine then it stopped working |
| [22:32:32] | clev: | i have a special --prefix for my mythtv based packages |
| [22:32:35] | Lord_Deathscythe: | -_- annoying actually |
| [22:32:41] | clev: | i can just mv it and have a clean install |
| [22:37:03] | scant: | clev: : could you explain in more detail, i don't understand |
| [22:37:46] | clev: | i basicaly compile with ./configure --prefix=/media/mainlv/root/8.04/ |
| [22:37:59] | clev: | and add /media/mainlv/root/8.04/lib to my /etc/ld.so.cache |
| [22:38:05] | clev: | and add /media/mainlv/root/8.04/bin/ to PATH |
| [22:38:34] | clev: | 8.04 refers to ubuntu 8.04 |
| [22:38:42] | clev: | i have another identical setup under the 7.10 folder |
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| [22:41:23] | scant: | clev: perhaps I should try that, but it seems like something too advanced for me |
| [22:41:31] | clev: | yeah it is pretty complex |
| [22:41:39] | clev: | i also have /media/mainlv/ as nfs to every front and backend |
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| [22:41:55] | scant: | clev: sarcasim or truth? |
| [22:41:58] | clev: | so a single 'sudo make install' will update every system at once |
| [22:42:11] | clev: | it will also cause every running mythtv program to crash :P |
| [22:42:28] | clev: | making packages would be better |
| [22:43:25] | scant: | clev: at a time, I did make packages, I think with checkinstall, but I couldn't find an automated way to do it, so I stopped doing it |
| [22:44:30] | scant: | clev: do you recommend making packages with checkinstall or is there another program that you use or recommend? |
| [22:44:55] | Dibblah: | Interesting. Myth seems to work just fine with a PS3 (2.50) as a UPNP client. |
| [22:50:43] | scant: | I have AAC audio working now, I didn't have to remove any myth libraries to do it, but I did have to install libfaad-dev like this thread says: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . =aac;#349707 |
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| [22:52:14] | scant: | however, mplayer plays the h.264 13.5 Mb/s sample video files on the HD PVR myth wiki page much much better than MythTV, does anyone know why this may be the case? |
| [22:52:55] | Dibblah: | "better" how? |
| [22:53:06] | Dibblah: | And which Myth version? |
| [22:53:33] | scant: | no stutter, pausing with mplayer, extreme stutter pausing with MythTV 0.21-fixes rev 18704 |
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| [22:55:00] | scant: | I thought the extreme stutter pausing with MythTV was related to not having the AAC audio codec avail/compiled in, but I was wrong, it's still there |
| [22:55:19] | jblack: | is your front end and back end different machines. |
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| [22:55:41] | scant: | jblack: same machine, but again, mplayer on the same machine, mplayer is much much beter at playing the 13.5 MB/s |
| [22:55:43] | scant: | sample |
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| [22:56:05] | jblack: | perhaps lack of cpu |
| [22:56:17] | scant: | jblack: ? |
| [22:56:40] | scant: | jblack: if that's the case wouldn't mplayer have parity in terms of poor playback? |
| [22:56:49] | GreyFoxx: | not really no |
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| [22:56:54] | GreyFoxx: | You are assuming they are doing the same thing |
| [22:57:07] | GreyFoxx: | by default mplayer doesnt deinterlace for example |
| [22:57:21] | GreyFoxx: | which takes up a lot |
| [22:57:28] | GreyFoxx: | So you should check your playbackj settings |
| [22:57:49] | scant: | GreyFoxx: ok, I'll verify interlace settings, but I don't know how to enable de-interlace with mplayer |
| [22:57:55] | GreyFoxx: | see what your profile has.. Xv or OpenGL (opengl takes more cpu) deinterlace or not, and if it's on what deinterlacer |
| [22:58:55] | scant: | GreyFoxx: I'm using xv-blit with chromakey, what MythTV and none for both interlace settings |
| [22:59:14] | GreyFoxx: | Never used chromakey myself, no idea what effect that has |
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| [22:59:54] | scant: | GreyFoxx: so, in terms of deinterlacers, mplayer isn't de-interlacing and neither is MythTV, what else could cause the disparity with playback performance? |
| [23:00:59] | GreyFoxx: | without actually profiling it, I can't say.I just want to make sure those settings were comparable |
| [23:01:22] | scant: | GreyFoxx: any other ideas that I can check, any help is appreciated |
| [23:03:21] | GreyFoxx: | nothing else off hand no |
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| [23:24:17] | Lord_Deathscythe: | fixed it, turned out to be a faulty 6200ch command |
| [23:24:29] | Lord_Deathscythe: | I'd try lirc but I doubt the transmitter would survive my cats |
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