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| [00:06:26] | orkid: | quite fresh. yesterday |
| [00:06:40] | orkid: | is this behaviour not normal? |
| [00:06:51] | orkid: | creating 0byte files |
| [00:07:11] | wagnerrp: | that behavior is normal if something is broken |
| [00:07:26] | orkid: | oh |
| [00:07:30] | orkid: | what could be broken? |
| [00:07:34] | dustybin: | now thats what i call a PC |
| [00:07:36] | dustybin: | http://kentie.net/article/ps2/index.htm |
| [00:07:38] | wagnerrp: | mythtv is opening a file to record, but then is failing to access the tuner, and leaves an empty file |
| [00:08:07] | orkid: | but then it starts a new file |
| [00:08:27] | orkid: | andstarts recording. is that because it gave up on the first one? |
| [00:08:27] | wagnerrp: | what, no 5.25"? |
| [00:08:37] | wagnerrp: | im not sure what would cause that |
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| [00:08:58] | orkid: | i think the drivers for my dvb-s card are not the best. i've had problems with locking with `szap` on this card |
| [00:09:01] | wagnerrp: | and... what kind of personal computer came with scsi drives? (aside from overpriced MACs) |
| [00:09:08] | Tapout: | is there a way to get mythtv to work with hdmi? some kind of new pci card or something |
| [00:09:24] | wagnerrp: | mythtv does not work with hdmi |
| [00:09:55] | wagnerrp: | that said... mythtv does not work with composite, s-video, component, vga, or dvi either |
| [00:10:17] | wagnerrp: | Xorg does all that, or otherwise some other framebuffer device |
| [00:10:18] | Tapout: | ok, is there a way to get mythtv setup with hdmi inputs on the computer? |
| [00:10:26] | orkid: | so how do i fix the problem? |
| [00:10:52] | wagnerrp: | you want an HDMI input? if you can find an HDMI capture card youre willing to pay for, let me know |
| [00:11:21] | iamlindoro: | And let us know when you're done with the linux drivers, too |
| [00:11:48] | wagnerrp: | of course it wouldnt be much use if it doesnt support HDCP |
| [00:11:53] | orkid: | "Preview Error: Previewer file '/1/myth_record/231_20080919200952.mpg' is not valid." |
| [00:12:04] | orkid: | and then it opens 231_20080919201105.mpg |
| [00:12:14] | orkid: | which actually has data (b/c by then it locked). |
| [00:12:30] | iamlindoro: | Sounds like you need to crank to tuning timeout way up |
| [00:14:12] | orkid: | where would i do that? |
| [00:14:59] | orkid: | oh mythtv-setup capture cards |
| [00:15:00] | iamlindoro: | in mythtv-setup |
| [00:15:02] | orkid: | will do |
| [00:15:24] | iamlindoro: | if it's taking two minutes to lock, though... ouch. Sounds like a CI to me |
| [00:15:37] | iamlindoro: | What country are you in? |
| [00:16:02] | iamlindoro: | actually... sounds like softcam naughtiness to me |
| [00:16:21] | orkid: | its not 2 minutes |
| [00:16:28] | orkid: | and it could be rotor |
| [00:17:04] | iamlindoro: | Per your filenames, it's 1:13 |
| [00:17:07] | orkid: | rotor % don't show the right number |
| [00:17:13] | orkid: | yes. it was 1:13 in that instance |
| [00:17:21] | orkid: | but the rotor % started showing |
| [00:18:16] | orkid: | hmm, so tuning timeout only goes to 65000ms ? |
| [00:19:50] | iamlindoro: | If your tuning takes over 65 seconds you have major issues to solve outside of myth |
| [00:20:42] | orkid: | the thing is often times it doesnt |
| [00:20:52] | orkid: | but there are sitl two filenames made |
| [00:21:55] | orkid: | 231_20080919202119.mpg 231_20080919202126.mpg |
| [00:22:09] | orkid: | just now... those two filenames were created... |
| [00:22:16] | orkid: | the second one has the actual data |
| [00:23:10] | orkid: | so it seems like the problem might be with something else? |
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| [00:30:38] | IOU: | is there a way to turn off buffering for a specific channel ? |
| [00:31:11] | IOU: | I have my PS3 plugged into the composite and i wanna be able to switch to the channel i have set up for it and play in real time, not with a 3–4 second lag |
| [00:31:20] | wagnerrp: | buffering, meaning you dont want that couple second lag on livetv? |
| [00:31:23] | wagnerrp: | not going to happen |
| [00:31:24] | iamlindoro: | You can't do that with myth |
| [00:31:28] | IOU: | bugger |
| [00:31:41] | wagnerrp: | even if you accessed the video input directly, you would have noticeable lag |
| [00:31:52] | IOU: | getting rather annoyed with switching to xawtv all the time |
| [00:32:01] | orkid: | well, with my problem, it seems like this 'dummy video file' is needed by some capture cards, according to mailing list mythtv-users |
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| [00:33:13] | IOU: | i might have to create a menu item that will invoke xawtv, or even mplayer to that input |
| [00:33:52] | wagnerrp: | or, just get a video switch, and leave the computer out all together |
| [00:34:00] | wagnerrp: | the game playing experience will be better for it |
| [00:34:24] | IOU: | i think i may just have to get an analog tv for it, my monitor doesnt really handle it that well |
| [00:34:43] | wagnerrp: | oh, you need a computer because then is just a computer monitor |
| [00:35:08] | IOU: | i was meaning so i wouldnt have to buy the switch lol |
| [00:35:36] | wagnerrp: | buy a $150+ TV so you dont have to buy a $30 video switch? |
| [00:35:57] | IOU: | was gonna get a second hand one lol |
| [00:40:41] | justinh: | whee I am so not DJing at that venue again :) |
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| [00:45:16] | wagnerrp: | what was so bad about it? |
| [00:46:00] | justinh: | not promoted. people turning up aplenty not realising it was an 'old skool' night |
| [00:46:23] | justinh: | same as every other monthly night |
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| [00:46:52] | justinh: | plus it's a 150 mile drive away. bit far to go no matter how much money it pays |
| [00:47:09] | wagnerrp: | you have to carry much equipment? |
| [00:47:44] | justinh: | nah. laptop, midi controller, headphones & USB audio device :) |
| [00:48:27] | justinh: | it's paid for my laptop, midi controller & Ableton Live :D |
| [00:49:27] | justinh: | the whole town is dead on fridays now, hence their clutching at straws coaxing me out of retirement |
| [00:50:51] | justinh: | oh wait I said 'not promoted' – I mean they put a shabbily printed A4 poster in the window of the bar downstairs :P |
| [00:52:28] | dustybin: | justinh: you need to introduce some hard techno |
| [00:54:51] | ** iamlindoro reads the users list, notes the Blu-ray thread is slowly recreating all the information that's been in the wiki for months ** | |
| [00:54:52] | justinh: | dustybin: I was actually asked to play some 'Mario Picotto' |
| [00:54:57] | justinh: | Mario.. ROFL |
| [00:55:35] | justinh: | techno sucks anyway. it's only for gays & pill-munching gimps |
| [00:56:50] | wagnerrp: | well you know... if pacman had any effect on society, we'd all be in dark rooms popping pills, listing to electronic music |
| [00:57:21] | iamlindoro: | likewise Super Mario w/ Mushrooms |
| [00:57:35] | iamlindoro: | and funky flowers |
| [00:57:51] | iamlindoro: | The dude thought he was a flying raccoon for god's sake |
| [00:57:53] | wagnerrp: | that was actually a quote from some high-up at nintendo in the late 80s |
| [00:59:42] | justinh: | wagnerrp: yeah well I've been in enough clubs full to the brim with pilled-up goons constantly asking me if I'm alright... it distinctly made me feel paranoid |
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| [01:07:03] | dustybin: | i dont smoke but tonight i could do with a cold beer and a cig |
| [01:15:44] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
| [01:15:47] | kormoc: | so you do smoke |
| [01:19:30] | wagnerrp: | apparently, if one were to desire for a smoke |
| [01:19:49] | wagnerrp: | having never smoked, its not really something i could crave |
| [01:25:18] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: what weak spots do you have? |
| [01:25:33] | wagnerrp: | procrastination most likely |
| [01:25:40] | dustybin: | LOL |
| [01:28:35] | kormoc: | well |
| [01:29:24] | dustybin: | how annoying |
| [01:29:25] | dustybin: | CPU Temp: FAULT (low = -127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) ALARM |
| [01:30:37] | wagnerrp: | well thats going to bother me for the rest of the night |
| [01:30:50] | wagnerrp: | big fucking spider just walked across my desk and down the back side |
| [01:31:22] | dustybin: | jeeze |
| [01:31:45] | dustybin: | there are a shit load of mythtv features ive never used |
| [01:31:49] | dustybin: | what does mark position mean |
| [01:31:55] | kormoc: | book mark |
| [01:32:05] | dustybin: | yep stuff like that |
| [01:32:51] | dustybin: | ive hardly ever been in the manage recordings menu either |
| [01:33:57] | wagnerrp: | smart little fucker too |
| [01:34:08] | wagnerrp: | runs straight for cover as soon as i get the light on it |
| [01:35:10] | dustybin: | wagnerrp: hoover it up |
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| [01:36:31] | iamlindoro: | I say nuke it from orbit |
| [01:36:35] | iamlindoro: | only way to be sure |
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| [01:37:30] | wagnerrp: | of course |
| [01:37:45] | wagnerrp: | but you know, spiders mostly come at night... mostly |
| [01:39:38] | dustybin: | handbrake kicks ass, you can download a binary and it just works |
| [01:39:42] | dustybin: | ./HandBrakeCLI -i /dev/dvd -o /mnt/video/dvd.mp4 -e x264 -b 2000 -E ac3 -f mp4 -B 192 -m -2 -T |
| [01:40:19] | dustybin: | that will encode my DVD with a 2000kbps h264 bitrate, keeps all the audio tracks as 192kbps aac |
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| [01:41:38] | wagnerrp: | fuck yeah, smashed the bastard trying to run down the side of my computer case |
| [01:42:28] | dustybin: | heh |
| [01:42:42] | dustybin: | heres some good news for linux |
| [01:42:54] | dustybin: | http://www.zarafa.com/?q=en/content/products <-- this is now open source gpl3 |
| [01:43:08] | wagnerrp: | zarafa is...? |
| [01:43:16] | dustybin: | replacement for exchange |
| [01:43:23] | dustybin: | it wasnt open source before |
| [01:43:45] | dustybin: | http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/08/09/19/2023252.shtml |
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| [01:47:23] | oobe: | does anyone see any problems with this |
| [01:47:24] | oobe: | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Acer-5600GT-Pentium-4- . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [01:48:15] | mchou: | yeah. it's a P |
| [01:48:22] | mchou: | yeah. it's a P4* |
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| [01:48:52] | mchou: | good purchase if you want an airport in your living room :) |
| [01:49:02] | oobe: | i think i will still need to get a low profile graphics card |
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| [01:49:16] | clever: | yes, my P4 system sounds like a jet |
| [01:49:21] | oobe: | mchou, u think it would be to loud |
| [01:49:46] | mchou: | oobe: loud, hot, and not energy efficient |
| [01:49:54] | mchou: | avoid |
| [01:49:58] | jamesd: | am i the only person that thinks it looks like an old fashion vcr? |
| [01:50:54] | clever: | jamesd: no your not the only one |
| [01:51:56] | oobe: | i cant find any small form factor pc's that have a decent psu most are 200w or 250w and a lot of gpu's wont work with them |
| [01:52:22] | mchou: | oobe: you dont need a mall factor pc |
| [01:52:26] | oobe: | it does look a bit like a old vcr |
| [01:52:28] | mchou: | small* |
| [01:52:50] | mchou: | if you want small factor be prepared to spend $$$$ |
| [01:53:03] | mchou: | not go for used stuff |
| [01:53:28] | oobe: | i spose i can put a desktop hiddent behind the tv cabinet |
| [01:53:48] | oobe: | i dont really want to intereact with it once its set up |
| [01:53:48] | mchou: | oobe: yup. |
| [01:55:07] | mchou: | I think ppl that go for SFF are crazy |
| [01:55:25] | mchou: | you want SFF get an iphone :) |
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| [01:55:39] | mchou: | use that as your remote |
| [01:57:16] | oobe: | lol |
| [01:57:19] | oobe: | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Intel-Pentium-4-2-8Ghz . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [01:57:21] | mchou: | just wait till we get some hardware assisted H.264 decoder |
| [01:57:26] | oobe: | that has everything i need |
| [01:57:57] | oobe: | but it will probably go for more than i will spend it looks ugly but i finally decided to hide the fucker anyway |
| [01:58:19] | mchou: | oobe: hmm, you still dont get it |
| [01:58:31] | mchou: | oobe: AVOID P4s |
| [01:59:10] | clever: | yes |
| [01:59:15] | clever: | its slow and loud |
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| [01:59:33] | mchou: | well, it's not slow, but it sure is loud |
| [01:59:40] | clever: | model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1500MHz |
| [01:59:45] | clever: | that system cant handle 264 |
| [01:59:54] | clever: | model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.60GHz |
| [02:00:08] | clever: | that one can easily handle 264 as low-med res |
| [02:00:17] | oobe: | i only want SD primarliy |
| [02:00:17] | mchou: | clever: even the latest systems choke on H.264 |
| [02:00:27] | clever: | nearly identical freq rates |
| [02:00:37] | oobe: | but what would you sugesst |
| [02:00:41] | clever: | mchou: im not refering to full maxed out res 264 |
| [02:00:50] | oobe: | in the $300 max range :) |
| [02:00:58] | oobe: | cause a p4 will do what i want |
| [02:01:03] | oobe: | even a p3 would |
| [02:01:03] | mchou: | $300?? |
| [02:01:17] | clever: | my P4 1.6ghz can bearly framegrab |
| [02:01:25] | mchou: | you can go for state of art system for less than $300 |
| [02:01:41] | mchou: | clever: then you have other issues |
| [02:02:02] | clever: | mchou: i think its a design problem, the pipeline of the cpu is too long |
| [02:02:04] | oobe: | this is a FE only btw |
| [02:02:13] | mchou: | oobe: you gonna have to skimp on vid card but that's not an issue |
| [02:02:17] | oobe: | i dont feel like it needs to be very powerful |
| [02:02:52] | mchou: | oobe: high end p2's decode SD just fine |
| [02:03:12] | clever: | i have a 400mhz P2 serving as my master backend |
| [02:03:12] | clever: | and it has been a frontend in the past with little trouble |
| [02:03:14] | mchou: | even 800Mhz |
| [02:03:22] | oobe: | whats not an issue you mean the ebay link i last pasted it has a 7300 if thats what you meant |
| [02:04:00] | mchou: | oobe: I'm saying a low end gfx card shouldnt be a big deal if all you want is SD |
| [02:04:18] | mchou: | 7300 is overkill |
| [02:04:36] | clever: | i was watching some shows a few days ago using the 'vesa' xorg driver:P |
| [02:04:42] | oobe: | but it is out putting to a plasma 1080 capable tv |
| [02:04:49] | clever: | that bugger doesnt even handle xv |
| [02:05:11] | oobe: | so i thought it would be nice to make it possible with xvmc and a p4 |
| [02:06:16] | mchou: | if you have aplasma tv why you messing with SD?? |
| [02:06:30] | mchou: | makes no sense whatsoever |
| [02:08:08] | clever: | ugh, mythfrontend is stuttering |
| [02:08:14] | clever: | 2008-09–19 23:07:50.568 NVP: prebuffering pause |
| [02:08:14] | clever: | 2008-09–19 23:07:51.900 NVP: Prebuffer wait timed out 10 times. |
| [02:08:24] | clever: | ahh i remember why |
| [02:08:31] | clever: | nfs shits itself when the file is being appended to |
| [02:08:32] | mchou: | clever: why? |
| [02:08:40] | mchou: | ok |
| [02:08:53] | clever: | every time i append to the file, the read ahead buffer is trashed |
| [02:09:00] | clever: | causing it to reread ahead |
| [02:09:08] | clever: | extra hdd and network bandwidth gets used |
| [02:09:16] | clever: | taxing the allready maxed hardware |
| [02:09:59] | clever: | 'allways stream recordings from backend' |
| [02:10:00] | clever: | fixed! |
| [02:10:54] | clever: | now its perfectly stable |
| [02:11:10] | hadees: | I got my HDPVR video working in mythtv but i'm not getting any audio, the weird thing is if i cat the video device to a file and play that i do hear the audio |
| [02:11:25] | hadees: | i know there is a low volume bug but i'm not getting any |
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| [02:17:46] | orkid: | does anyone ever get video to 'jump' while deinterlaving? |
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| [02:19:08] | hadees: | hmm what aac lib do i need installed for mythtv |
| [02:19:57] | asmussen: | haades, did you compile with --enable-libfaad? |
| [02:21:38] | hadees: | asmussen, i thought i did, guess i need to check that out |
| [02:24:33] | asmussen: | I'm not using it in production yet, but I set it up on a test machine, and I got the audio working. My config.log looks like this: ./configure --libdir-name=lib64 --prefix=/usr/local/mythtv-trunk --enable-libfaad |
| [02:26:25] | asmussen: | If may matter what version of faad you're using, although that's just a guess, I don't know that for sure. |
| [02:26:38] | hadees: | asmussen, i don't see that even printed when i do config hmm |
| [02:27:01] | asmussen: | You don't see what printed? |
| [02:27:26] | hadees: | asmussen, any mention of libfaad being enabled or disabled |
| [02:27:38] | iamlindoro: | that's because it's a hidden option |
| [02:27:52] | iamlindoro: | just use --enable-libfaad like asmussen said |
| [02:28:34] | hadees: | k, how is coreavc-for-linux support? |
| [02:28:43] | hadees: | while i'm recompiling i thought i might try that as well |
| [02:29:05] | iamlindoro: | It's so so... works fine for HD-PVR stuff but breaks plenty else |
| [02:29:07] | asmussen: | It's sort of a pain to get going, but it's not TOO bad. Once you get it in, it really does help playback. |
| [02:29:17] | asmussen: | What does it break, iamlindoro? |
| [02:29:30] | asmussen: | On the test install of mythtv I tried it on, I didn't try anything but playback of hdpvr streams. |
| [02:30:00] | iamlindoro: | asmussen, causes frontend to hang when used on certain container types |
| [02:30:12] | hadees: | i guess i'll hold off on that for now |
| [02:30:21] | hadees: | i know i'll need it if i buy a macmini to make a frontend though |
| [02:30:50] | asmussen: | How big is the impact from that? Is it container types that mythtv uses normally? Does it depend on the specific type of capture card you use, or is it only for non-mythtv produced video or something like that? |
| [02:31:13] | iamlindoro: | doesn't depend on any capture card type, and yes, I would say .MP4 containers are fairly common |
| [02:31:52] | iamlindoro: | MP4 container + CoreAVC + Internal Player = Hang |
| [02:31:56] | iamlindoro: | likewise with MKV |
| [02:32:08] | asmussen: | But is it something you can run into playing back recordings that mythtv made, or is it only while watching externally created content with mythvideo? |
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| [02:32:24] | iamlindoro: | The latter |
| [02:32:31] | iamlindoro: | The HD-PVR recordings work fine |
| [02:32:35] | hadees: | iamlindoro, do you know if the mkv thing is the same with xine and/or mplayer? |
| [02:33:28] | iamlindoro: | hadees, Wouldn't know, as you would need to patch those applications to use CoreAVC to find out |
| [02:33:29] | asmussen: | Yeah, I could possibly see myself going back to mplayer as my mythvideo player until a better solution for watching the hd-pvr recordings emerges. |
| [02:34:01] | asmussen: | But if you didn't patch it, you could avoid the issue altogether by using one of those instead of the internal player for mythvideo playback, right? |
| [02:34:09] | iamlindoro: | Yes |
| [02:35:06] | hadees: | asmussen, yeah but assuming you are using CoreAVC because it's speed because of the hardware you are using i would wager you would need it for xine or mplayer too |
| [02:35:45] | asmussen: | But only if you were playing back H.264 content under mythvideo. Even if your hardware had problems with h.264, it would most likely handle other formats just fine. |
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| [02:40:56] | asmussen: | I'm not even 100% sure thWhile we're on the subject of the hd pvr, I've finished building the new box I'm going to use for my new mythtv install, and I'm about ready to implement it. Anybody happen to know what the current state of the hd pvr driver is? For exaple, did the IR blaster support ever get in? |
| [02:41:22] | iamlindoro: | No, not yet |
| [02:41:37] | iamlindoro: | The driver has changed very little in the last month or so |
| [02:41:46] | iamlindoro: | likewise with the Myth support of it |
| [02:41:47] | asmussen: | Jannau been pretty busy? |
| [02:41:51] | iamlindoro: | Yes |
| [02:42:48] | asmussen: | That's too bad, but I guess I can't really complain, given that it's not his job or anything... :) |
| [02:43:25] | hadees: | i use firewire for channel changing |
| [02:43:41] | hadees: | been pretty good thus far |
| [02:43:53] | asmussen: | I might see if I can make that work. I just moved into a new house, and I have no idea if my new cable box will work well with that or not. |
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| [03:22:22] | jedix: | wow |
| [03:22:30] | jedix: | mythtranscode takes for freaking ever |
| [03:22:39] | jedix: | maybe I should change it to use something else? |
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| [03:44:29] | wagnerrp: | jedix: have you ever encoded anything before? |
| [03:44:57] | jedix: | wagnerrp: sometimes it works |
| [03:45:03] | jedix: | sometimes it doesn't |
| [03:45:07] | wagnerrp: | i mean that process just takes a long time |
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| [03:45:17] | jedix: | I think |
| [03:45:23] | jedix: | over a day? |
| [03:45:37] | wagnerrp: | what is your CPU? is this SD or HD? |
| [03:45:43] | jedix: | hd |
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| [03:45:58] | jedix: | dual core 2.4 |
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| [03:47:33] | jedix: | seems too long |
| [03:47:34] | wagnerrp: | that does seem a bit excessive, on my 2.2, a nice h.264 transcode of an hour long show is upwards of 8 hours |
| [03:47:44] | jedix: | yeah |
| [03:47:54] | wagnerrp: | i think mythtranscode is just mpeg4 asp |
| [03:47:58] | jedix: | and then they eventually fail with "255" |
| [03:48:23] | wagnerrp: | which means youre only running single core, but it also uses about 6x less CPU |
| [03:49:03] | jedix: | can I cange from mythtranscode to something else? |
| [03:49:37] | wagnerrp: | you can do whatever you want, if you dont mind doing some scripting/coding on your own |
| [03:50:06] | jedix: | I'd rather it just work |
| [03:50:10] | jedix: | but that seems unlikely |
| [03:53:00] | jedix: | like, what does 255 mean? |
| [03:53:05] | jedix: | actually, some non-hd ones |
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| [03:54:39] | jedix: | okay, there's definately a problem.. |
| [03:54:46] | jedix: | what do you use for encoding wagnerrp? |
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| [03:56:55] | wagnerrp: | megui/avisynth/x264/neroaac |
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| [04:04:22] | MrCerulean: | Good evening. I've just setup myth on a pc connected to my HDTV. Video is a little choppy. I have an nVidia card. The FAQ says that I should go into TV Setup and set Preferred MPEG2 Decoder to "Standard XvMC". But I cannot find this option. |
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| [04:24:25] | dustybin: | when i try and use the screen setup wizard, the frontend quits when i hit save, there are no error messages reported? |
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| [05:40:45] | RyeBrye: | Is there a good place to go to look up linux compatibility for certain motherboards? |
| [05:41:06] | RyeBrye: | or just the different chipsets (i.e. the audio chipsets or the networking chipsets... etc) |
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| [05:53:14] | mchou: | RyeBrye: buy and return if it doesnt work |
| [05:53:35] | ** RyeBrye is lazy ** | |
| [05:53:39] | ** RyeBrye hates rma ** | |
| [05:53:43] | mchou: | RyeBrye: knoppix liveCD is handy too |
| [05:54:38] | mchou: | if everything boots up and works, then you can buy! |
| [05:55:50] | wagnerrp: | oh i love ram |
| [05:56:03] | wagnerrp: | oh, rma, not ram... |
| [05:56:24] | wagnerrp: | i was about to do a monty python spam imitation... and that just ruined it |
| [05:57:05] | mchou: | wagnerrp: you have atsc card, right? |
| [05:57:12] | wagnerrp: | yes |
| [05:57:21] | mchou: | wagnerrp: you ever get gliches in the stream? |
| [05:57:28] | mchou: | glitches* |
| [05:57:33] | wagnerrp: | yes, due to poor reception |
| [05:57:47] | mchou: | you have outdoor antenna? |
| [05:57:52] | wagnerrp: | no |
| [05:57:58] | wagnerrp: | havent gotten around to it |
| [05:58:00] | mchou: | hmm, that's not good |
| [05:58:17] | wagnerrp: | i havent had any series to record on channels that really have problems |
| [05:58:29] | mchou: | no, that's fair |
| [05:59:10] | mchou: | but outdoor antenna will probably do wonders |
| [05:59:59] | mchou: | I mean have to invest in a motorola cable splitter/amp |
| [06:00:07] | mchou: | s/mean/may |
| [06:00:21] | mchou: | lousy cable signal in the house |
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| [06:37:47] | hadees: | once mythtv is build is there anyway to know if it found the libfaad? because i keep configuring it for it a few different was but each time i try and play a file from my hdpvr i get no audio |
| [06:38:28] | wagnerrp: | the configure log |
| [06:38:37] | wagnerrp: | the list of loaded modules |
| [06:38:39] | wagnerrp: | (ldd) |
| [06:39:22] | hadees: | wagnerrp, how do you us ldd? |
| [06:39:28] | hadees: | *use |
| [06:39:40] | wagnerrp: | man is your friend |
| [06:39:45] | wagnerrp: | so is experimentation |
| [06:39:53] | wagnerrp: | anyway, its just 'ldd <executable>' |
| [06:40:01] | wagnerrp: | who would have thought |
| [06:41:01] | hadees: | well you need the full path |
| [06:41:19] | hadees: | anyway so it looks like libfaad is linke |
| [06:41:20] | wagnerrp: | only the path to the file |
| [06:41:21] | hadees: | d |
| [06:41:30] | hadees: | i wonder why i still am not getting audio |
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| [06:46:26] | mchou: | hadees: send over that HDPVR over here. I'll make it behave |
| [06:47:04] | hadees: | lol, it does behave, all i need to is cat the device and i get audio and video, its mythtv that isn't able to play it |
| [06:47:44] | mchou: | send you HDPVR and myth box over here then |
| [06:47:59] | mchou: | I'll give them a good spanking |
| [06:52:45] | ** mchou so disappointed ** | |
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| [07:41:25] | justinh: | dustybin: the man who wrote the original screen setup wizard is a cock |
| [07:41:42] | hadees: | well that was out of the blue |
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| [07:47:27] | clever: | hadees: i allways expect that kind of language when talking to justinh |
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| [07:58:18] | hadees: | so i'm trying run ./configure libdir-name= so that it find the faad lib i build, the lib is stored in /usr/local/lib |
| [07:58:26] | hadees: | i keep getting build errors it isn't find it |
| [08:00:47] | wagnerrp: | HAH |
| [08:01:22] | wagnerrp: | some audio engineers are claiming that the GH3 version of one of metallica's songs is actually better than the CD release |
| [08:01:41] | wagnerrp: | because the CD version is 'smashed to fuck' |
| [08:01:49] | wagnerrp: | but at least it will be loud! |
| [08:01:51] | directhex: | it's true, if you look at the audio graphs |
| [08:02:01] | directhex: | let me find the youtube vid |
| [08:02:07] | justinh: | yeah it's clipped to hell! |
| [08:02:15] | justinh: | especially the guitars |
| [08:02:38] | directhex: | http://kotaku.com/5052138/judge-metallica-sou . . . for-yourself |
| [08:03:55] | wagnerrp: | and KITT... was carjacked in Toronto |
| [08:04:24] | directhex: | it says something when a cd is so badly made, you can tell the audio quality is worse... in a YOUTUBE VIDEO. |
| [08:04:33] | directhex: | i mean jesus tittyfucking christ |
| [08:04:40] | wagnerrp: | although perhaps that was a PR stunt |
| [08:06:07] | justinh: | now if you were comparing 8-bit audio to 16-bit maybe you'd be able to tell the difference on youtube |
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| [08:10:23] | directhex: | justinh, even with the sound off. just look at the spectrum analyser |
| [08:10:50] | wagnerrp: | those smooth bars mean cleaner sound! |
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| [08:17:02] | justinh: | oh shit the labour conference is in manchester again |
| [08:18:26] | wagnerrp: | i like the comment 'why couldnt you just turn up the treble on the cd player?' |
| [08:19:15] | wagnerrp: | i guess why this is a problem, or perhaps not a problem, in the first place |
| [08:19:33] | wagnerrp: | the average consumer doesn't even notice it, or understand what is going on |
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| [08:22:59] | justinh: | hard rock cd badly mastered, shock, horror! |
| [08:23:56] | justinh: | if you ask me, anything by metallica is gonna sound crap :) |
| [08:24:16] | asmussen: | Ugh, just spent the last couple of hours fighting with my SA 4240HDC set top box trying to get channel changing over firewire to work. Finally got it though. |
| [08:24:37] | justinh: | yay for early morning victories! |
| [08:25:06] | justinh: | but er... couple of hours? God, man think yourself lucky ;) |
| [08:25:27] | asmussen: | Heh |
| [08:26:49] | asmussen: | I think that was the last step I needed to work out before I start setting up mythtv on the new beefier box I setup to use my hdpvr. |
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| [08:58:13] | justinh: | hrm. dvb-t usb tuner not appearing in lsusb, so can't find out wtf it is :( |
| [08:58:49] | laga: | not appearing at all or just no identifier? |
| [08:59:17] | clever: | lsusb > a;plug device in;lsusb>b;diff a b |
| [08:59:24] | clever: | (or check dmesg) |
| [08:59:34] | justinh: | I see bus 001 to bus 007 have device 001 which I assume are the controllers |
| [08:59:45] | justinh: | don't see anything else |
| [08:59:57] | clever: | diffing will let you mask the controlers and existing devices |
| [09:11:12] | justinh: | had permission to open it up. isn't supported :) |
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| [09:17:10] | laga: | i wish email filtering in thunderbird worked properly. |
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| [09:54:13] | sid3windr: | I wish thunderbird worked properly |
| [09:54:35] | sid3windr: | it's got a truckload of imap bugs and it can't even sort mails by date properly |
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| [09:55:55] | laga: | heh |
| [09:56:11] | laga: | it'd be enough for me if filtering by additional headers actually worked. |
| [09:56:24] | laga: | although it's probably just PEBKAC |
| [09:56:33] | movedx_: | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1300 <- Is that a decent DVB-T card to get? |
| [09:56:39] | movedx_: | I'm looking to buy one today. |
| [09:57:53] | movedx_: | http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=378684 |
| [09:57:58] | movedx_: | That looks better again actually. |
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| [10:34:45] | janneg: | justinh: Device 001 is always the root hub, if the device doesn't show in lsusb and there are no usb related errors in dmesg it's most likely defect |
| [10:35:18] | janneg: | usb enumeration should always work even if there is no driver for the device |
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| [11:05:08] | _Carlos_: | hi |
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| [11:05:47] | _Carlos_: | is there a way to start mythfrontend in live tv mode? |
| [11:06:33] | _Carlos_: | I can't see any argument for this |
| [11:06:39] | andreax: | Im unsure, but i think if you start mythtv instead of mythfrontend it takes you directly to livetv... |
| [11:06:47] | andreax: | Dunno if its still like that |
| [11:07:31] | _Carlos_: | yeah, it's still like that :) |
| [11:07:44] | _Carlos_: | thank you andreax |
| [11:07:55] | andreax: | np :) |
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| [11:24:11] | hume: | hi.... I have a newly installed mythbuntu-box, configured to run with propr graphics drivers (fglrx) – but on live TV image jumps, stutters... how can I examine this? connection to backend via ethernet cable |
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| [11:27:12] | _Carlos_: | you could try another playback profile (config->tv->plaback -> third screen) |
| [11:35:45] | hume: | hrm... setting to normal makes it worse, cpu++ better than normal, but not good... any ideas which wold be better? |
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| [11:44:45] | hume: | is there a way that I can check the network speed between frontend and backend? |
| [11:49:41] | directhex: | iperf |
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| [11:58:49] | clever: | janneg: some usb devices like my PDA arent 'plugged in' until i try to use the usb from the PDA software |
| [12:07:04] | hume: | ok..iperfs gives me 95,7 MBits/s – how is that for transmitting live TV? A reason for stuttering show? |
| [12:08:08] | hume: | isn't 95,7 rather low for ethernet cable connection on a LAN? |
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| [12:12:34] | janneg: | clever: software running on the pc or on the PDA? |
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| [12:15:09] | clever: | janneg: the pda software |
| [12:15:36] | clever: | the device normaly leaves the lines open(not – or +) so the hub doesnt detect anything |
| [12:15:50] | clever: | it only initiates the connection when it wants to talk |
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| [12:16:07] | clever: | think means the /dev/ node for the serial port doesnt exist until i start the pda end of the connection |
| [12:16:16] | clever: | so linux software cant open the node and wait |
| [12:16:35] | clever: | and the visor.ko module isnt recomented anymore either |
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| [12:19:45] | gbee_: | beautiful day, outside in the sun, beer in hand |
| [12:21:25] | gbee_: | err, except I've just realised that I left the beer inside |
| [12:21:34] | ** gbee_ goes to get it ** | |
| [12:21:45] | clever: | i cant read my laptop in bright sunlight |
| [12:21:55] | clever: | and the lcd hinges are toast so it wont stay upright |
| [12:22:21] | clever: | and im currently booted from nfs so it will lockup if i unplug it |
| [12:24:24] | gbee_: | not much of a laptop then ;) |
| [12:26:57] | mchou: | hey, anyone know if HVR-1600 does pid filtering in HW? |
| [12:30:39] | clever: | gbee_: the hinges are a poor design |
| [12:30:56] | clever: | and the lcd panel isnt made to reflect external light like the newer one |
| [12:31:11] | clever: | but the cpu can handle some 264 so its not useless |
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| [12:36:15] | hume_: | directhex, got any ideas on my speeds? around 95 MBits/s |
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| [12:39:24] | clever: | hume_: 95.7 sounds like a lot for a 100 network:P |
| [12:39:30] | clever: | though you could have gigabit |
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| [12:45:13] | hume_: | clever, ok... guess I have 100... is it sufficient for streaming live TV, then? or can it be a reason for the stuttering? films stored locally shows nicely... |
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| [12:48:29] | gbee_: | being outside is nice and all, but since my work is all on the other laptop, there isn't much I can actually do :( |
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| [12:49:33] | laga: | gbee_: just relax? |
| [12:50:57] | laga: | or use ssh ;) |
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| [12:56:32] | clever: | hume_: my livetv takes ~2.4 mbit from graphs i did months ago |
| [12:56:40] | clever: | but i have crappy sdtv :P |
| [12:56:57] | clever: | laga: ssh and x11! |
| [12:57:09] | clever: | laga: ive ran an entire gnome session thru x11 forwarding |
| [12:57:18] | mchou: | crap crap! |
| [12:57:25] | clever: | though lately ive been sharing the $HOME and just running the stuff localy |
| [12:57:33] | clever: | bbl |
| [12:57:50] | hume_: | clever, that means that my jumpy show must be caused by something in my frontend setup, right? |
| [12:58:26] | sebrock: | I experience some issues with mythtdvd: on some DVDs the menu "background" is not changing. Instead only the new navigation page is shown on the top menu background. Anyone seen this before? |
| [13:01:11] | sebrock: | actually now Im seeing this on all mu DVD images |
| [13:06:32] | prying: | how do i delete all the empty folders in L: |
| [13:10:54] | laga: | sebrock: there are lots of bugs with the internal dvd player IMHO. please delete them |
| [13:11:00] | directhex: | l:? |
| [13:11:00] | laga: | prying: in L:? are you on windows? |
| [13:11:04] | prying: | yes |
| [13:11:14] | laga: | prying: then go ask in a windows channel. |
| [13:11:51] | directhex: | good lord #mythtv-users has really jumped the shark if people are asking about linux partiton maintenance from windows |
| [13:14:17] | sebrock: | laga? "please delete them"? |
| [13:14:34] | sebrock: | seems to be this: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4902 |
| [13:14:34] | laga: | sebrock: sorry. please report them |
| [13:14:42] | laga: | i was reading prying's question as i typed |
| [13:14:47] | sebrock: | hehe ok |
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| [13:24:49] | gbee_: | crapload of AA1 updates all of a sudden |
| [13:25:41] | jduggan_: | you got an aa1? |
| [13:25:49] | ** jduggan_ is getting one on friday ** | |
| [13:26:04] | jduggan_: | so cheap, its almost throw away money |
| [13:26:11] | gbee_: | jduggan_: yeah, had it about a month now |
| [13:26:15] | jduggan_: | nice |
| [13:26:25] | jduggan_: | would you recommend it? |
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| [13:26:33] | gbee_: | ivor_ has one too |
| [13:27:02] | gbee_: | jduggan_: wary about recommending anything, because it depends what you want from such a device – I'm happy with it though |
| [13:27:12] | jduggan_: | great |
| [13:27:18] | jduggan_: | i was just reading aspireoneusers.com last night |
| [13:27:28] | jduggan_: | some people want to mod anything |
| [13:27:35] | jduggan_: | i bet they mod their HB pencils |
| [13:27:57] | jduggan_: | people soldering internal bluetooth etc |
| [13:28:03] | jduggan_: | putting in touch screens |
| [13:28:05] | jduggan_: | etc |
| [13:28:13] | gbee_: | the default OS is a little limiting, but I'm sticking with it for now because of the boot speed and tweaks they've done to get the best performance out of the hardware/battery |
| [13:28:14] | laga: | not getting laid etc |
| [13:28:31] | jduggan_: | laga: exactly :) |
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| [13:28:51] | laga: | jduggan_: i'll admit it: i'm just too cheap to spend money on modding stuff ;) |
| [13:29:06] | laga: | except for my bike maybe, which was a huge money drain to get up to speed again ;) |
| [13:29:10] | jduggan_: | i wouldnt mod a brand new aa1, thats for sure |
| [13:29:12] | gbee_: | jduggan_: considering the touchscreen one actually, but I'd prefer a solderless solution and maybe even a slightly cheaper screen too |
| [13:29:50] | gbee_: | certainly not going to risk damaging the thing when I've had it such a short time |
| [13:29:57] | jduggan_: | there are people soldering in GPS receivers with the touchscreens, presumably to use in their car for satnav etc |
| [13:30:07] | jduggan_: | imo real satnavs are so cheap i dont see the point |
| [13:30:10] | gbee_: | yeah, can't see the point |
| [13:31:02] | gbee_: | touchscreen I get, especially nice for mythtv, but again not when it requires delicate soldering |
| [13:31:12] | jduggan_: | i want one to work in racks where there's limited space |
| [13:31:19] | jduggan_: | and when i travel |
| [13:31:23] | jduggan_: | which tends to be quite often |
| [13:32:05] | jduggan_: | my old laptop is on its last legs, (old 1.3athlon chip in it!), i just dont use it enough to warrant buying a full sized(priced) laptop |
| [13:32:24] | gbee_: | it's so damn small that it's great for travel, even just for keeping in my bag so that it's available if I need it |
| [13:32:25] | laga: | a "real" laptop is not that expensive |
| [13:32:30] | laga: | 500€ or less |
| [13:32:46] | directhex: | right |
| [13:32:52] | jduggan_: | laga: more than the aa1, aa1 costs not much more than i spend on a weeks shopping haha |
| [13:32:53] | directhex: | but a "real" €500 laptop weighs 3kg |
| [13:32:54] | gbee_: | real laptops are big/heavy things compared to this |
| [13:32:58] | directhex: | and a netbook weighs 1kg |
| [13:33:03] | directhex: | which is a big diff if you travel |
| [13:33:07] | laga: | yeah, there are differences. |
| [13:33:08] | gbee_: | directhex: less even |
| [13:33:17] | directhex: | gbee, 1kg is typical enough |
| [13:33:36] | jduggan_: | gbee_: i read reports that the mic doesnt work with anything but skype, have you experienced that? |
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| [13:35:02] | gbee_: | jduggan_: haven't tried the mic – don't use any IP based voice conferencing etc so I've had no reason to try |
| [13:35:46] | gbee_: | suppose I could test it now – if I can find a suitable way of doing that :) |
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| [13:37:52] | gbee_: | maybe later, don't have any suitable apps installed right now |
| [13:42:14] | gbee_: | the big difference for me between this thing, and a proper laptop is that I can take it when I go hiking to work on the train there/back and not be concerned about it getting damaged in a rucksack – the things so damn light and tough |
| [13:42:44] | jduggan_: | yea and if it did break, its not like `macbook` money to have lost =] |
| [13:42:50] | gbee_: | should the worst happen, it's not that expense to replace |
| [13:43:02] | jduggan_: | i need the mic working, i connect back to our office asterisk server to make sip calls to the office |
| [13:44:21] | gbee_: | yup, I had this thing all over the place with me on Holiday last week, does exactly what I need it to do – it's not a desktop replacement or even a full laptop replacement, but it does it's job nicely |
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| [13:45:47] | gbee_: | jduggan_: I really can't see why the mic wouldn't work, that would be a driver level issue which would affect all apps – so Skype working but others not doesn't really make sense |
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| [13:46:20] | jduggan_: | gbee_: i thought the same, but a quick google seems to bring up a few hits about it being flaky |
| [13:47:06] | gbee_: | jduggan_: hmm, well there have been a bunch of updates in the last week, might already be fixed – I'll see what I can do to test |
| [13:47:22] | gbee_: | ivor_: there? |
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| [13:50:21] | gbee_: | nm, sorted it |
| [13:51:53] | gbee_: | jduggan_: one big complaint a lot of people have is about battery life – now I get upto 2hr 45mins from the standard battery which is enough for me, if I want more I'd carry a spare battery or buy the larger 6 cell |
| [13:52:16] | gbee_: | generally you are never too far from a socket to recharge or preserve charge |
| [13:52:57] | gbee_: | maybe down the line we'll see better battery performance both from higher battery densities and software improvements |
| [13:53:35] | ** gbee_ likes the sound of the new Li-Sulpher batteries which have a density of something like 8x Li-Ion ** | |
| [13:53:54] | laga: | ooooh |
| [13:54:01] | laga: | do they tend to explode? ;) |
| [13:55:03] | gbee_: | no idea, but they can't be more dangerous than Li-Ion (I hope) |
| [13:58:41] | gbee_: | the actual density of Li-S varies depending on the source you read, last thing I read was a manufacturer claiming something like 8x in weight for weight comparison with Li-Ion – but even the more certain claims of 2x the storage per cell of Li-Ion are impressive |
| [13:59:51] | laga: | yeah. mobile energy is important |
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| [14:08:19] | gbee: | imagine laptops which can go a day between charges, phones which last 6 weeks on a single charge instead of 2/3 |
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| [14:11:40] | gbee: | of course electric cars too, but even those are only just starting to use Li-Ion |
| [14:12:21] | jduggan_: | yea they're releaseing a 6cell battery for the aa1 right? |
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| [14:18:43] | gbee: | yep |
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| [14:32:07] | jduggan_: | should give close to 6hrs? |
| [14:32:57] | gbee: | I'd guess ... |
| [14:41:15] | jduggan_: | wonder what the cost of that will be |
| [14:41:32] | jduggan_: | i've seen people running vista on those things to, i bet its rather sluggish |
| [14:43:56] | gbee: | I think they're barmy |
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| [15:01:43] | jduggan_: | lol |
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| [15:26:50] | opello: | anyone know about this 'pansat' stuff? free-to-air satellite? i can't get cable at my new house :/ |
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| [15:31:45] | Sulx: | what deint method you guys use with opengl? |
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| [15:44:08] | bergqvistjl91: | Hi, does anybody know what could be the cause of Error 255 when transcoding video |
| [15:44:21] | bergqvistjl91: | im using mythbuntu but i thought id post here 1st |
| [15:44:49] | bergqvistjl91: | anybody? |
| [15:44:50] | bergqvistjl91: | ?? |
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| [15:45:29] | bergqvistjl91: | anyone |
| [15:49:37] | hadees: | so i'm trying run ./configure libdir-name= so that it find the faad lib i build, the lib is stored in /usr/local/lib i keep getting errors it isn't finding it |
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| [16:05:55] | movedx_: | gbee: here mate? |
| [16:06:26] | dustybin: | is it normal for the screen setup wizard to quit the frontend after you press 'save' ? |
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| [16:11:40] | Anduin: | dustybin: I thought it should just reload |
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| [16:11:56] | dustybin: | yep thats what i thought |
| [16:12:03] | dustybin: | mine just quits, no error messages |
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| [16:32:34] | directhex: | http://www2.apebox.org/wordpress/linux/51/ |
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| [16:55:49] | RyeBrye: | Is there any good place to check for compatibility of motherboards or chipsets with linux? |
| [16:56:05] | RyeBrye: | other than googling each specific chipset that a motherboard uses... etc? |
| [16:57:52] | tank-man: | you probably wont find any trouble with picking a working motherboard |
| [16:58:11] | tank-man: | problems arrise with wifi, video, sound |
| [16:58:26] | Dibblah: | Network in some cases. |
| [16:58:39] | RyeBrye: | Yeah, the sound chipset was what I was most interested in |
| [16:58:54] | RyeBrye: | All of the motherboards I'm looking at all have 6 or 8 channel audio chipsets |
| [16:59:06] | RyeBrye: | with coax / SPDIF out... etc. |
| [16:59:07] | GreyFoxx: | :w |
| [16:59:09] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
| [16:59:10] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [17:00:14] | RyeBrye: | I guess I'll just keep googling the specific chipset + linux or + ALSA to see what I find – but in general the SPDIF output should work if the chipset is supported and such, right? |
| [17:01:51] | directhex: | onboard sound will be snd-hda-intel |
| [17:02:10] | directhex: | and it'll be horribly board-specific as to how well it behaves – but yes, spdif is a pretty reliable one |
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| [17:04:32] | RyeBrye: | are there any reliable sound pci cards? I have the slots to spare, and if there was a $30-$50 usd sound card that would "always" work, I'd just get that instead of spending 20 to 30 minutes searching the net for info on each mobo I'm considering's chipset |
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| [17:06:51] | directhex: | well, anything emu10k1 based |
| [17:07:18] | directhex: | but generally speaking, it's a pretty safe bet that any distro will work on a motherboard older than that distro, soundwise |
| [17:07:28] | directhex: | even without explicit mention of the motherboard anywhere on the internets |
| [17:07:39] | directhex: | i#d never bother researching specific boards before buying – i'd expect it to just work |
| [17:07:48] | RyeBrye: | That sounds reasonable |
| [17:08:19] | RyeBrye: | I suppose if I bought a new board and the sound didn't work for some reason, I could just pick up a cheapie soundblaster card until the board had explicit support |
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| [17:10:23] | tank-man: | if you havent boycotted them sure :) |
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| [17:30:19] | squish102: | what is the best way to speed up the listings on mythweb? |
| [17:30:35] | squish102: | a) reduce the number of channels listed |
| [17:30:45] | squish102: | b) find some mysql tweek |
| [17:30:57] | squish102: | c) replace hardware |
| [17:31:05] | squish102: | d) RTFM |
| [17:34:44] | Sulx: | all of them?-) |
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| [17:35:13] | gnome42: | b) IMHO :) |
| [17:37:25] | squish102: | selecting a different day takes 15–20 seconds to display |
| [17:39:40] | gnome42: | squish102: 3–4 secs here |
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| [17:40:10] | squish102: | gnome42 cpu/mem/no channels? |
| [17:40:32] | squish102: | i have amd +3500/1 gig/ 150 channels |
| [17:41:20] | gnome42: | E2180 with cpufreq turn on, 1 GB, ~400 channels |
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| [17:44:43] | gnome42: | err, ~240 channels visible |
| [17:45:28] | squish102: | i wonder if cpu makes that much of a difference |
| [17:45:52] | gnome42: | squish102: nah, you should be able to do similar I'd guess |
| [17:46:04] | gnome42: | have you done any mysql tuning? |
| [17:46:19] | squish102: | nope |
| [17:46:32] | Dagmar: | lol |
| [17:47:04] | squish102: | trying the mythweb 'optimize tables' |
| [17:47:15] | gnome42: | maybe try turning on the mysql slow query log to see if the listings are triggering any slow queries. |
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| [17:54:24] | Dagmar: | The answer is generally "c" |
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| [18:00:22] | hadees: | i'm having a weird issue with trunk, mythtv doesn't seem to be responding to my keyboard and/or when it does respond it is very lagged |
| [18:00:51] | gnome42: | 'c' may be easier/faster, but I would bet squish102 could achieve <5 second listings without spending $'s :) |
| [18:00:57] | wagnerrp: | so the frontend is laggy? |
| [18:01:22] | hadees: | i don't know if it is the frontend so much as keyboard |
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| [18:01:28] | hadees: | video seems to play fine |
| [18:01:41] | hadees: | the problem happens worse while watching a video |
| [18:02:05] | wagnerrp: | laggy controls seem to be a relatively common problem |
| [18:02:24] | hadees: | wagnerrp, even with a keyboard? i mean i get it with lirc |
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| [18:14:08] | RyeBrye: | wow, that "optimize tables" thing in mythweb really does speed things up |
| [18:14:31] | RyeBrye: | It probably took it less than a minute to run but now all my pages load much faster |
| [18:15:05] | RyeBrye: | That thing should just run itself every day after updating the listings or something |
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| [18:18:32] | gnome42: | RyeBrye: yeah, I run the optimize_mythdb.pl (from contrib) before and after my mythfilldb run everyday. |
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| [18:19:20] | laga: | if you use mythbuntu, there's a button to add a cron job in the control centre |
| [18:22:35] | hume_: | RyeBrye, where did you find that optimize tables thing? |
| [18:23:50] | Dagmar: | The internets hold great secrets. |
| [18:23:57] | laga: | Dagmar: rule 42? |
| [18:24:02] | Dagmar: | You should maybe start with www.mythtv.org |
| [18:24:24] | Dagmar: | laga: Is that the rule that says "fuckers refuse to read unless you kill them first"? |
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| [18:32:27] | RyeBrye: | hume_ click on the "keychain" and then click on "database" – there is an "optimize tables" button there |
| [18:33:00] | hume_: | RyeBrye, where? in the web interface? |
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| [18:33:18] | RyeBrye: | hume_ yes – on the web interface |
| [18:33:56] | hume_: | ah....there...found it, thanks! |
| [18:34:35] | RyeBrye: | hume_ np – I didn't even know it existed until today. I just thought my slow page loads were because my p4 backend sucked |
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| [18:55:46] | Darthy: | hi. why is my mythtv showing up six dvb devices – i have only two. the names are: dvb: 0, dvb :0, dvb :0, dvb :1, dvb :1 and dvb :1. does it have something to do with recording groups? |
| [18:57:00] | iamlindoro: | No, it has something to do with multirec |
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| [18:57:15] | Darthy: | multirec? |
| [18:57:18] | iamlindoro: | as in, Myth now allows one to record multiple things on the same mux with a single tuner |
| [18:57:30] | Darthy: | ah. cool |
| [18:57:34] | iamlindoro: | so you have three "virtual" tuners for each physical on |
| [18:57:35] | iamlindoro: | one |
| [18:57:52] | iamlindoro: | You can turn this number up and down in mythtv-setup (Maximum recordings) |
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| [18:58:21] | Darthy: | hmm.. strange is that on minimyth it is showing up all virtual ones as well.. and if i sitch to a virtual one it cannto lock on a channel. |
| [18:58:37] | iamlindoro: | It is *supposed* to show all of them |
| [18:59:08] | Darthy: | and it is correct that a virtual device should NOT lock on a channel? |
| [18:59:24] | iamlindoro: | Nope |
| [18:59:27] | Darthy: | i have to switch back to view anything |
| [18:59:36] | Darthy: | hmm.. maybe i should update minimyth as well. |
| [19:00:02] | Darthy: | or is it just a backend thing and minimyth dont need new features for this? |
| [19:00:25] | Darthy: | hard to say i guess |
| [19:02:00] | iamlindoro: | All your backends and frontends must run the same versions |
| [19:03:10] | Darthy: | ok.. thanx for info. |
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| [19:06:33] | hadees: | iamlindoro, do you know what might cause serious keyboard lag in mythtv trunk? |
| [19:06:52] | hadees: | i just switched to MePo and it actually seems worse with that theme |
| [19:07:05] | hadees: | .21 was perfectly responsive |
| [19:07:41] | iamlindoro: | hadees, The more memory hungry themes sometimes do that-- also worth testing out the other painter (ie, if you're using the GL painter, try QT) |
| [19:07:50] | iamlindoro: | also, you might try optimizing your DB |
| [19:08:26] | hadees: | iamlindoro, it also seems to have an effect when watching video, would that also be a theme issue? |
| [19:08:50] | iamlindoro: | Sometimes |
| [19:09:14] | iamlindoro: | more commonly a DB one, but you might try running mythfrontend with -v most to see what's up |
| [19:09:24] | iamlindoro: | and see if it complains about anything in particular |
| [19:10:08] | hadees: | when you say optimize the db you mean run optimize_mythdb.pl? |
| [19:10:20] | iamlindoro: | yep |
| [19:10:30] | iamlindoro: | well, that's one way of doing it anyway |
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| [19:20:05] | darkdrgn2k: | whats a good distro for a myth front end? |
| [19:20:25] | iamlindoro: | Whichever you are comfortable with |
| [19:20:32] | darkdrgn2k: | ok then |
| [19:20:35] | darkdrgn2k: | debian or ubuntu |
| [19:20:36] | iamlindoro: | If you have no preference, Mythbuntu is really really excellent |
| [19:20:47] | iamlindoro: | and about a 10 minutes setup |
| [19:20:55] | Sulx: | I recommend archlinux |
| [19:20:58] | darkdrgn2k: | well.. i compile my own myht.. |
| [19:21:10] | darkdrgn2k: | fedora (what im using now) is waaay to bulkey |
| [19:21:13] | Sulx: | then arch is your cup of tea ;) |
| [19:21:59] | darkdrgn2k: | just tell me arch doesnt require you to compile EVERYTHIGN |
| [19:22:09] | Sulx: | nope |
| [19:22:17] | darkdrgn2k: | whats the package maanager |
| [19:22:35] | Sulx: | pacman |
| [19:22:42] | darkdrgn2k: | more importantly.. where do yuo download it LOL |
| [19:22:44] | darkdrgn2k: | site is a little confusing |
| [19:22:53] | Sulx: | libalpm based |
| [19:22:57] | Sulx: | confusing? |
| [19:23:02] | darkdrgn2k: | no download lol |
| [19:23:08] | Sulx: | www.archlinux.org -> get arch |
| [19:23:13] | darkdrgn2k: | nm |
| [19:23:13] | darkdrgn2k: | yeh |
| [19:23:14] | darkdrgn2k: | lol |
| [19:23:20] | ** darkdrgn2k to tiered today ** | |
| [19:23:29] | Sulx: | if thats confusing....I suggest windows |
| [19:23:29] | iamlindoro: | I'm not sure I would recommend a new distro that one has never used if trying to get a working frontend in short order, but what the hey |
| [19:23:35] | jams: | confusing is not a work I would use to describe their website. |
| [19:24:28] | darkdrgn2k: | iamlindoro: yeh im gonna stick with debian for now.. but it looks like an interesting distro.. |
| [19:24:42] | Sulx: | true...but in my experience arch > mythbuntu > mythdora etc |
| [19:24:46] | Sulx: | tried them all |
| [19:24:59] | laga: | i hear shoes are better than hats |
| [19:25:10] | Sulx: | thats true |
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| [19:27:33] | darkdrgn2k: | yes but socks are overrated |
| [19:27:51] | laga: | my grandma used to compile her own socks |
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| [19:28:56] | iamlindoro: | laga, Your Grandma ran gentoo? |
| [19:29:07] | laga: | no, she used to knit |
| [19:29:09] | iamlindoro: | did she --enable-wool? |
| [19:29:22] | iamlindoro: | laga, I'm not *that* dense ;) |
| [19:29:42] | laga: | oh. sorry. this is IRC, y'know ;) |
| [19:30:07] | darkdrgn2k: | LoL |
| [19:30:24] | iamlindoro: | And more specifically, it's #mythtv-users |
| [19:30:45] | iamlindoro: | So you could be excused for thinking that most people were mentally challenged |
| [19:31:34] | jamesd: | grandma got ran over by a raindeer. |
| [19:34:15] | justinh: | damn little ugly green bastard |
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| [19:55:53] | darkdrgn2k: | will a compaq flash harddrive really hurt the performance of a myth box (as opposed to a harddrive) |
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| [20:08:49] | gbee: | for a backend? |
| [20:09:01] | gbee: | backend yes, frontend no |
| [20:11:04] | darkdrgn2k: | gbee: hmm.. wonder if its work using my ide flash drive then.... |
| [20:13:08] | RyeBrye: | Does gentoo give any better performance since you are compiling / optimizing all the crap for your specific architecture? |
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| [20:15:57] | laga: | i have yet to see evidence ;) |
| [20:16:03] | laga: | did someone actually do benchmarks? |
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| [20:16:54] | RyeBrye: | or is more one of those things "I'm going to compile all this stuff because I can"? |
| [20:17:46] | RyeBrye: | For my new system, I'm going to build in a core2 quad OC'ed to between 3.6 and 4 Ghz – so I would hope that it would be fast at compiling stuff – but it seems rather useless if there is no performance gain |
| [20:19:19] | iamlindoro: | Probably matters about as much as the six foot spoiler on the back of gentoo user's Honda Civics |
| [20:19:21] | darkdrgn2k: | RyeBrye: i dont think at those speeds performace gains (if any) would even be noticable |
| [20:21:16] | RyeBrye: | 64-bit support is pretty good in all the main distros now, right? |
| [20:21:42] | iamlindoro: | yep |
| [20:22:22] | RyeBrye: | iamlindoro – lol about the 6-foot spoiler thing... I just read that |
| [20:22:30] | iamlindoro: | ;) |
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| [20:30:31] | AndyCap: | funroll-loops. :) |
| [20:30:57] | AndyCap: | whee, it's back http://funroll-loops.info/ |
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| [20:41:21] | gbee: | I was going to comment on Gentoo, but then I thought better of it – I don't need the aggrevation of pissing off it's users (or packagers) |
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| [20:43:37] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | hello |
| [20:43:39] | gbee: | "I would rather spend a day compiling X and KDE on my system when I know that it has been built with everything that I need, rather than installing a package that has been compiled with every option and have unnecessary dependencies cluttering up my system." |
| [20:44:07] | gbee: | that's just a classic |
| [20:44:38] | gnome42: | hehe, agreed! :)) |
| [20:44:51] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | hi gbee, just the expert I am looking for |
| [20:45:03] | gbee: | a few megabytes of diskspace is worth a whole day of that guys life, the poor sod |
| [20:45:37] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | you might remember that I had problems with the crystal palace receiver – well the problems are still there but now I finally am in front of the computer with the problems |
| [20:46:27] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | that would be the crystal palace transmitter of course |
| [20:46:51] | justinh: | nsfw, but funniest thing I've seen in a while.. http://i30.tinypic.com/166gmzk.jpg |
| [20:47:48] | gbee: | Redhammer_the_Ol: might not seem like it, but I'm a little busy right now :) I'll do my best but you'll find plenty of others who know their stuff in here |
| [20:48:17] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | np |
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| [20:49:21] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | short question: trying to configure the wake up and shutdown |
| [20:49:33] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | I can get my laptop to wake up with /proc/acpi |
| [20:49:35] | justinh: | ahh the card that works fine in windows but not so well in linux.. |
| [20:50:00] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | like so sudo sh -c 'echo "+00-00–00 00:05:00" > /proc/acpi/alarm' |
| [20:50:21] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | what command do I have to put into the backend config ? |
| [20:50:42] | RyeBrye: | I wonder if I should be wary of RAM that comes with its own cooling fan |
| [20:51:06] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | is ist sudo sh -c 'echo $time > /proc/acpi/alarm' |
| [20:51:31] | justinh: | Redhammer_the_Ol: what does the wiki entry say about it? ;) |
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| [20:53:30] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | well the wiki I found has some long script |
| [20:53:52] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | but searching again |
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| [20:55:24] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | do I need to install the script or is it possible just to put the command into field in backend |
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| [20:57:56] | justinh: | from a quick glance at that wiki page on the mythtv wiki, I'd probably say that depends |
| [20:59:20] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | yip and that is why I am asking :D let me put it in and try |
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| [21:00:32] | justinh: | how would we know if your BIOS needs the wakeup time set in UTC or your local time format? ;) |
| [21:01:12] | Mersault: | What are people experiences with an HD Home Run? I live on the first floor of a three story low-rise, and I'm looking at my options for getting OTA HDTV signals. Has anyone tried running their backend inside VMWare with an HD Home RUn? |
| [21:02:35] | justinh: | has anybody tried encasing themselves in concrete & being dropped over niagra falls? |
| [21:02:38] | RyeBrye: | n00b system builder question: Does the RAM speed really matter all that much? Wouldn't 8 GB of DDR2 800 be better than 4 GB of DDR2 1066? |
| [21:02:57] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | very true mr justinh |
| [21:03:01] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | let me try it out right |
| [21:04:08] | AndyCap: | the bios has no concept of timezones so it wants the time in whatever zone it is set to |
| [21:04:08] | Mersault: | most people going over niagra falls prefer to use a barrel |
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| [21:04:45] | justinh: | Mersault: aha, and most people who run mythbackend prefer to use a real machine rather than a virtual one ;) |
| [21:04:55] | iamlindoro: | RyeBrye, For Myth Purposes, no, it really doesn't |
| [21:04:55] | justinh: | why make life hard for yourself? (tm) |
| [21:05:02] | Mersault: | I know most people do. But that doesn't mean no one has tried... |
| [21:05:56] | justinh: | Mersault: in theory it should work. I mean the HDHR is a network device, not requiring nuts & bolts access to hardware so no reason why it would be a problem |
| [21:05:57] | Mersault: | I'm building a new system, which will serve as my backend as well as being a vm ware server. So it seems natural to wonder if it's reasonable to stick mythbackend in a vm as well, rather than run it off the base install. |
| [21:06:02] | justinh: | costs nothing to try it (tm) |
| [21:06:26] | justinh: | there's nothing to be gained from running mythbackend in a vm though |
| [21:06:58] | Mersault: | well, except that it can be snapshot'd and then upgraded, and should that not work out too well, reverting is easy |
| [21:07:33] | jams: | have not tried it, but i would think disk i/o would be the biggest problem |
| [21:07:48] | Mersault: | mmm, true. |
| [21:08:08] | RyeBrye: | iamlindoro – would 8 GB give any advantage over 4GB in a system that is going to be a master backend / frontend handling comflag jobs and HD playback? I can only imagine how much disk crap can be kept cached in RAM – but my assumption is that the extra RAM might be overkill |
| [21:08:09] | jams: | as you know VMs are not the best at that |
| [21:09:15] | Mersault: | well, the VM would be accessing the main disk array (raid 5) via NFS exported from the base install, so it wouldn't be writng to the 'fake' disk |
| [21:09:58] | iamlindoro: | RyeBrye, It's all a little murky in the end-- yes, there is probably some benefit to be gained with more RAM if you're doing a lot of commflagging and transcoding-- I myself have 8 GB of DDR2 800 in my system. I just don't think it's something that's easily quantifiable |
| [21:10:15] | justinh: | VMs, RAID... pardon my rudeness but it sounds like playing sysadmins at home. rahhly |
| [21:10:35] | GreyFoxx: | Mers: Will that backend e recording? And if so from what will the source be ? |
| [21:11:00] | GreyFoxx: | Cause if t's a PCI card I can only say good luck with that |
| [21:11:04] | GreyFoxx: | same for firewire |
| [21:11:23] | jams: | GreyFoxx- hdhomerun |
| [21:11:25] | RyeBrye: | iamlindoro – makes sense. As long as the RAM gets used somewhere I'm all about the more the merrier... and I can get 8GB of DDR2 800 for less than the price of 4 GB of DDR2 1066 – so I'll probably grab a decent set on the QVL for the mobo and go with that |
| [21:11:27] | GreyFoxx: | ahhh |
| [21:11:33] | Mersault: | well, actually, I am a sys admin. my company is launching a virtualization project, so there's definitely a reason why I'm looking to setup a crazy vmware setup at home |
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| [21:11:41] | GreyFoxx: | That would likely work fine then |
| [21:11:56] | Mersault: | alright, baring from thought my crazy vm ideas, is the HDHR a decent tuner compared with the pcHDTV line of cards? |
| [21:12:05] | jams: | yeah with recording to an nfs drive, it should be ok |
| [21:12:11] | iamlindoro: | Yes, the HDHR is an excellent tuner |
| [21:12:55] | iamlindoro: | One caveat is that currently the HDHR cannot use Myth's multirec features, but otherwise there's nothing too special about it |
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| [21:14:10] | Mersault: | multirec? pardon my ignorance, but I'm not familiar with this feature. what is it? |
| [21:14:25] | Mersault: | wait, found the wiki page |
| [21:14:38] | justinh: | blimmin useful is what it is :) |
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| [21:15:53] | RyeBrye: | I can't blame the devs for not putting a ton of time in the HDHR multirec... If I were the one wanting that feature I would think to myself. "Hmm... > 4 hours of coding and testing to get multirec working with HDHR , or $160 for another HDHR to get 4 tuners regardles of what is on the mux"... and I'd probably just buy 2 of them |
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| [21:16:28] | Mersault: | hmmm, doesn't seem multirec would be that useful for OTA stuff, or did I misread the blurb? |
| [21:16:31] | RyeBrye: | of course, there is the satisfaction of tinkering and getting something to work – which has value in and of itself |
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| [21:17:48] | AndyCap: | Mersault: depends what they put in the MUX |
| [21:18:00] | GreyFoxx: | Rye: If it wasn't for that myth wouldn't exist :) |
| [21:18:25] | AndyCap: | Mersault: if they just have one interesting channel and the rest is filler, then multirec is probably not that helpful |
| [21:18:56] | iamlindoro: | Which is frequently true most places one can actually use an HDHR :) |
| [21:19:13] | iamlindoro: | Though there are exceptions |
| [21:19:25] | Mersault: | now, in my area (Toronto) each HDTV signal coming in OTA is from a different transmitter (granted, most of them are within metres of each other on the CN Tower, but there's also the transmitters in Buffalo), so each of those would be a separate MUX< yes? |
| [21:19:30] | AndyCap: | iamlindoro: heh. I read there's a lot of politics and underhandedness involved in US OTA |
| [21:20:04] | iamlindoro: | AndyCap, It could be extremely useful with QAM if it weren't all encrypted, boooo |
| [21:20:28] | AndyCap: | iamlindoro: heh yeah. when you have one transmitter controlling the whole setup it could be more useful |
| [21:20:40] | AndyCap: | s/transmitter/provider/ |
| [21:20:44] | Mersault: | that's what I'm thinking. multirec would seem to be useful with unencrypted digital cable or satalite signals. |
| [21:21:07] | Mersault: | so this feature doesn't sound useful to me, yet. |
| [21:22:15] | Mersault: | alright, it's settled then. HDHM for Mersault. |
| [21:24:58] | iamlindoro: | Check amazon, they had the best price last I saw |
| [21:24:59] | iamlindoro: | (130–40ish maybe?) |
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| [21:25:28] | iamlindoro: | That's USD, of course |
| [21:25:36] | iamlindoro: | but The savings might offset the shipping |
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| [21:26:07] | Mersault: | thanks! |
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| [21:28:39] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | am back, need to check again — wakeup did not work |
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| [21:50:44] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | no dice |
| [21:50:47] | Redhammer_the_Ol: | let me check again |
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| [22:02:53] | jpabq: | I just checked out a fresh copy of svn trunk. built it and installed it. Myth will not run because it is complaining that the app is built against a newer version of the myth lib, than what is installed. I don't see anything obviously wrong. Guess I will build it again.... |
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| [22:10:23] | jpabq: | What the hell. Everything is installing into /usr/local *except* for the libs. For some reason they are going into /lib |
| [22:11:36] | oobe: | if i have a remote FE and primarily for the purpose for watching BE recordings is it still possible to add a tuner to the FE and record to the local disk not the BE ? |
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| [22:12:20] | oobe: | i assume it is but just wanted to check i dont have any experience with seperate FE BE systems |
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| [22:12:49] | iamlindoro: | That frontend would need to become a slave backend, but yes. |
| [22:12:57] | Steven_M: | hi all |
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| [22:13:55] | iamlindoro: | NineTeen67Comet, Assuming all you want to do is control myth, yes, it can be controlled entirely from a remote. |
| [22:14:29] | NineTeen67Comet: | Hello, I know the Hauppauge PVR250 is supported, but will it's remote also run the computer so I can put my keyboard/mouse away? |
| [22:14:35] | ** iamlindoro is psychic ** | |
| [22:14:42] | oobe: | iamlindoro, thank you |
| [22:14:47] | ** NineTeen67Comet =) ** | |
| [22:14:52] | Steven_M: | is there a key to get mythtv ino window mode from within live tv? |
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| [22:15:16] | iamlindoro: | Steven_M, no. Myth needs a frontend reload to switch between fullscreen and windowed modes. |
| [22:16:40] | NineTeen67Comet: | My second "Q" is that I live in Japan, but use the Armed Forces (US Military) channels (NTSC satellite basically) . I read a lot about using some online tv schedule tools to run the PVR. Is there either a way to just use the PVR manually or download an AFN tv guide to Mythtv standards? |
| [22:17:47] | Steven_M: | is there a way to hide mythtv then, I want to get to my desktop volume control? |
| [22:17:57] | iamlindoro: | NineTeen67Comet, It is possible (although painful) to set up manual records with myth. See the wiki about that. The other option is to see if Schedules Direct will accept AFP codes in addition to Zips, or look for a XML grabber for those listings. |
| [22:18:04] | iamlindoro: | Steven_M, You can alt-tab, but that's it |
| [22:18:19] | Steven_M: | ok |
| [22:18:31] | NineTeen67Comet: | I've got a media server (no myhtv backend installed, but it hold all our pictures and videos) .. so really I'll be using MythTV for a movie player more than a PVR .. although I would like to watch TV on it too .. |
| [22:18:37] | iamlindoro: | Well, I mean you can alt-tab, then right click it in your menubar and hide it that is |
| [22:18:44] | NineTeen67Comet: | iamlindoro: thank you; I'll go hit the wikis for it .. |
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| [22:20:43] | Steven_M: | iamlindoro: thanks anyway :) |
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| [22:45:40] | mchou: | hey, anyone familiar with dvb tools? I just want a command that sets the tuner to a particular frequency. |
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| [22:46:54] | mchou: | something kinda like 'tuneto 631000000 QAM_256' |
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| [23:22:48] | Sentry02: | Hello. I have searched and searched and cannot find a resolution. SlaveBackend/RemoteFrontend can record and play locally, can see recordings on masterbackend but when you try to play it, we get the file for this recording cannot be found. Ideas? |
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| [23:29:12] | Sentry02: | . |
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| [23:32:37] | Anduin: | Sentry02: host name change? |
| [23:33:29] | Sentry02: | no hostname changes |
| [23:33:45] | Sentry02: | can resolve names and addresses and connect to the database |
| [23:33:56] | Anduin: | Sentry02: should still see the url the frontend is trying to open and check it |
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| [23:34:20] | Sentry02: | url in frontend.log is correct and masterbackend is listening on the port listed in the log file |
| [23:35:22] | Anduin: | Sentry02: mythtv isn't actually using DNS to resolve that name, the DB setting has to contain the correct IP |
| [23:37:08] | Sentry02: | even though the frontend can connect to the DB using the hostname? When I change the hostname in database config to an invalid name it fails to connect, change it back to a good hostname and it connects |
| [23:37:35] | Sentry02: | the url in the log file is mythtv://hostname:port/filename.jpg |
| [23:37:49] | Anduin: | (often when people go from having a single machine to multiple they need to change their backend IP from 127.0.0.1) |
| [23:38:46] | Sentry02: | fresh installs on both systems. replaced any reference to 127.0.0.1 during my installs. |
| [23:39:19] | Sentry02: | ubuntu 64-bit server with mythtv-backend and mythbuntu slave/frontend on a 2nd system |
| [23:39:22] | Anduin: | Sentry02: pastebin a portion of the frontend log around the failure |
| [23:39:44] | Sentry02: | ok... |
| [23:42:13] | Sentry02: | 2008-09–20 18:39:59.906 Error: File 'myth://MythTV-Master.ottman.local:6543/1018_20080920125100.mpg' missing. |
| [23:44:08] | iamlindoro: | Myth is *especially* not going to be able to use zeroconf hostnames |
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| [23:45:03] | Sentry02: | reconfigure to IP addresses and try again? |
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| [23:45:27] | Sentry02: | both systems are setup with static IP addresses |
| [23:46:50] | iamlindoro: | Worth a shot |
| [23:47:12] | Sentry02: | be back shortly |
| [23:48:16] | Anduin: | Sentry02: the backend should also have a log with hopefully more info (QUERY_CHECKFILE) |
| [23:51:00] | Sentry02: | mythbackend.log on the masterbackend system shows no entries after the remote frontend tries and fails to access the video |
| [23:54:00] | iamlindoro: | Yay, more users list BS-- "I like top posting. This is the only list I use that requires or usesbottom posting. So, which did you read first, the top post or the bottom post? PS. This message is dual posted." |
| [23:54:06] | Sentry02: | OMG... You HAVE to be kidding me! |
| [23:54:14] | Sentry02: | Thank you Anduin and iamlindoro |
| [23:54:32] | Anduin: | Sentry02: it sucking is a know issue |
| [23:54:35] | Anduin: | n |
| [23:54:49] | GreyFoxx: | iaml: Yeah, that guys is a little .... off :) |
| [23:54:52] | fryfrog: | I have to say, I prefer top posting as well. Gmail really spoils you. |
| [23:55:23] | Sentry02: | since the help text for the field indicated it could be hostname or IP, I've been beating myself senseless with using the hostname. Lesson learned. |
| [23:55:26] | fryfrog: | well, top posting or commenting inline maybe |
| [23:55:57] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx, Not that it isn't a common myth user trait to say "Who gives an eff" to any gentle nudge towards courtesy |
| [23:57:06] | Sentry02: | has anyone used the uPNP server in .21? My uPNP client sees my master backend but the video list is empty |
| [23:57:42] | GreyFoxx: | Sentry: For that to work you have to run mythvideo setup at least once on the backend and make sure the videos are located in the VideoStartupDir |
| [23:57:56] | GreyFoxx: | cause if the videos aren't where the backend is looking it wont show them to you :) |
| [23:58:57] | Sentry02: | was headed in that direction when I broke down and installed the mythtv-frontend package on the masterbackend. Was hoping to avoid that. oh well. Thanks. |
| [23:59:28] | GreyFoxx: | There is no good reason to not install everything on each machine |
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| [23:59:40] | GreyFoxx: | you don't have to actually run every component |
| [23:59:52] | GreyFoxx: | and you have nothing but trying to install the bareminimum |
| [23:59:57] | GreyFoxx: | save nothing I meant |
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