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| [00:01:13] | Tatsh: | recompiled kernel, rebooting now |
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| [00:10:06] | knighthawk: | I want to install a UPnP server so I can push pictures, music, and *maybe* video to my PS3 is installing mythTv overkill? |
| [00:10:42] | knighthawk: | I'm not really going to use it as a DVR |
| [00:10:50] | knighthawk: | don't have a tv card |
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| [00:14:22] | J-e-f-f-A: | knighthawk: Myth is not very good at UPnP imho, it's just a simple file server in that respect. Just buy a decent NAS if that's all you want to do... |
| [00:15:18] | knighthawk: | J-e-f-f-A any suggestions? Really looking for something software based for now. |
| [00:15:41] | J-e-f-f-A: | Software based: Twonky... |
| [00:15:53] | knighthawk: | thanks J-e-f-f-A |
| [00:16:11] | J-e-f-f-A: | knighthawk: It's not free, but it works quite well. |
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| [00:25:17] | knighthawk: | that's fine |
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| [00:25:47] | Steven_M: | hi all |
| [00:25:50] | equim: | hrm does mythtv set the keymap when it loads? it seems to.. |
| [00:26:54] | Steven_M: | my trouble setting up mythtv never ends |
| [00:27:14] | equim: | you having fun too? :) |
| [00:28:26] | Steven_M: | I'm now trying mythbuntu and livetv still won't start |
| [00:28:41] | Steven_M: | equim: yeah :) |
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| [00:31:36] | equim: | could it be that the backend is running as a different user which doesn't have permission to your home dir? |
| [00:31:49] | equim: | for me mythbackend runs as user "mythtv" |
| [00:34:17] | Steven_M: | standy |
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| [00:35:30] | iamlindoro_: | don't just guess |
| [00:35:37] | iamlindoro_: | you waste everyone's time when you do that |
| [00:35:53] | iamlindoro_: | Especially when the answer is going to be right in the backend log |
| [00:36:13] | justinh: | wahey! time from executing Elisa to it crashing... 3 secs |
| [00:36:22] | iamlindoro_: | Steven_M: attempt to watch liveTV. Make note of the time. look at /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log and look at that same time, you will have the error you need. |
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| [00:38:59] | equim: | "you waste everyone's time when you do that" <- you talking to me? I am only trying to help |
| [00:39:21] | iamlindoro_: | Yes, I am talking to you |
| [00:39:23] | iamlindoro_: | and helping blindly is no help at all |
| [00:39:28] | iamlindoro_: | It's a nice gesture, but a random guess is no help |
| [00:39:28] | equim: | great |
| [00:39:43] | iamlindoro_: | As there are literally *hundreds* of reasons that liveTV can fail |
| [00:39:46] | equim: | well I'd appreciate even blind help for my problem really |
| [00:40:43] | equim: | sorry iamlindoro_ .. I think this is a misunderstanding – I was making my guess based on information he mentioned in another channel |
| [00:40:52] | equim: | I should have replied to him in the other channel |
| [00:40:55] | iamlindoro_: | ah, ok |
| [00:41:02] | iamlindoro_: | sorry about that then |
| [00:41:17] | equim: | yeh np's, was my fault :) |
| [00:41:50] | equim: | I can see it sounds like a totally random guess based on what was said here |
| [00:43:58] | Steven_M: | I think I've got it now, have to go to lunch be back later |
| [00:45:31] | Steven_M: | equim: the backend is being run by mythtv and I am a member of myth tv |
| [00:46:37] | Steven_M: | equim: I think some advice from another chann will work |
| [00:47:09] | equim: | move the recording directory out of your home dir? :) |
| [00:47:17] | equim: | sounds like the best plan |
| [00:47:39] | Steven_M: | equim: will test after lunch :) |
| [00:47:44] | equim: | k |
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| [00:58:48] | equim-: | g'night |
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| [01:14:14] | mzb_d800: | iamlindoro: as you seem to have been entertained by some of my scripts: http://fastpaste.net/147/ |
| [01:14:46] | mzb_d800: | (alpha) |
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| [01:24:01] | my2keh: | is it possible for force an EIT update? |
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| [01:27:24] | Landon: | having a problem with my xbox connecting to mythtv, is it a common problem to be able to see recorded programs but not be able to watch them? |
| [01:28:00] | Landon: | I think I've had this problem a while ago on my laptop, but I don't remember wht the fix was |
| [01:33:25] | justinh: | do you still have to export mythtv recordings via SAMBA for the xbox? Always had to before |
| [01:34:04] | justinh: | my2keh: EIT updates come in as they are broadcast. Not before |
| [01:34:33] | my2keh: | hmm so I guess tuning to a specific channel won't help it broadcast sooner? |
| [01:34:57] | Landon: | justinh: I haven't seen that in any recent guides |
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| [01:39:12] | justinh: | Landon: is your backend bound to 127.0.0.1 or the LAN IP address? |
| [01:39:50] | Landon: | bound to my LAN IP |
| [01:40:18] | Landon: | works on my laptop |
| [01:40:45] | justinh: | not using a framegrabber to record shows are you? not sure their player can cope with .nuv files |
| [01:41:07] | Landon: | it's mplayer |
| [01:41:39] | justinh: | yes but, it's not mplayer |
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| [01:42:54] | justinh: | or rather, it's not quite the regular mplayer |
| [01:43:06] | Landon: | I think I've played them before with samba |
| [01:43:12] | Landon: | just pretty crappy support for seeking |
| [01:43:17] | justinh: | and anyway, can _the_ mplayer play .nuv files? |
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| [01:48:17] | jblack: | justinh: I have played nuv's with mplayer, I believe. I'll double check now |
| [01:48:49] | jblack: | nm. can't. nfs is hanging. |
| [01:49:28] | justinh: | I think it might be able to cope with the mpeg4 software encoded stuff, just not rtjpeg |
| [01:50:11] | jblack: | there it goes. |
| [01:50:16] | jblack: | Yup. mplayer and nuv, just fine |
| [01:50:55] | justinh: | heh. oh well. there goes that idea then |
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| [01:56:18] | lwizardl: | hi |
| [01:56:34] | lwizardl: | can mythtv be setup for IPTV ? |
| [01:56:56] | justinh: | depends on the 'iptv' |
| [01:57:15] | justinh: | some forms of it are very much locked down to propriatary boxes |
| [01:58:46] | lwizardl: | ok what about how you can get shows via some windows software (yeah i know they are very pixelated) but possile in myth |
| [01:59:07] | lwizardl: | ? |
| [01:59:34] | justinh: | IIRC you can point mythtv at .m3u sources |
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| [03:39:30] | iamlindoro: | *cricket* |
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| [03:40:35] | Dagmar: | *agonized scream* |
| [03:40:48] | Dagmar: | *chewing* |
| [03:41:24] | iamlindoro: | That kind of thing is usually followed by "I searched for hours and hours but I can't find any solutions... Myth says 'Can't connect to database...' Anyone ever seen this?" |
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| [04:07:28] | Kichigai: | Greetings. I've just dusted my Myth box off after a few months of being stowed. |
| [04:07:54] | Kichigai: | I've got some issues getting it back up and running, and I'm not sure if I should just download a new copy of KnoppMyth and install that or repair the existing configuration. |
| [04:08:09] | Kichigai: | My biggest worry is the hardware might not be able to cope with newer builds of Myth. |
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| [04:09:35] | Kichigai: | I'm running a Celeron 600 with a PVR-150 and 256 MB of RAM, backend only. |
| [04:12:10] | clever: | my 400mhz P2 is able to record with a pvr150 with no trouble |
| [04:12:12] | Kichigai: | I'm also considering possibly bringing my XBox Myth client out of retirement too. |
| [04:12:14] | clever: | and can bearly play things back |
| [04:12:44] | Kichigai: | So the backend isn't going to be too much trouble, then? |
| [04:12:57] | clever: | no trouble at all with hardware encoders |
| [04:13:24] | Kichigai: | Now, how stressful is the front-end? I am considering loading it back on my XBox again. |
| [04:14:13] | clever: | i havent ran the frontend on that 400mhz recently |
| [04:14:19] | clever: | it doesnt have a monitor on it often |
| [04:14:20] | Kichigai: | The XBox isn't 400 MHz. |
| [04:14:40] | Kichigai: | It's a 733 MHz Celeron/P3, 64 MB of RAM and no video hardware that Linux can use |
| [04:14:49] | clever: | ah |
| [04:14:59] | clever: | sounds like it would be tricky |
| [04:15:02] | Kichigai: | That's the thing. |
| [04:15:20] | Kichigai: | I know my laptop can handle it, but having a solution hooked up to my TV would be nice. |
| [04:15:23] | clever: | my frontend window is using ~38mb of ram right now(and more in swap) |
| [04:15:30] | Kichigai: | The decoding isn't an issue, it's running the front-end |
| [04:15:45] | Kichigai: | So it'll be really slow, then? |
| [04:15:59] | clever: | enless you trim things down alot |
| [04:16:09] | Dagmar: | ...and yet we still get 10 gibbering haploids in here a week who take it as a personal insult when told anything even as mild as "The XBox is slightly suboptimal for use as a frontend" |
| [04:16:11] | clever: | i compiled with debug info, so my programs is massive compared to normal |
| [04:16:36] | Kichigai: | Well, I'm only using the XBox because I'm a poor starving college student who's using what he's got ;) |
| [04:16:55] | clever: | i normaly just watch on the laptop |
| [04:16:58] | Kichigai: | Slow I can deal with, five minutes to switch menus, and I'll probably just skip it |
| [04:18:49] | tank-man: | use the xbox for xbmc+scripts |
| [04:19:24] | Kichigai: | I'm looking at KnoppMyth (I've always used them historically), and it looks like they're not running 0.21 yet. How's MythBuntu these days? |
| [04:19:58] | cesman: | Kichigai: THe latest KnoppMyth does include 0.21 |
| [04:20:23] | Kichigai: | Does it? I'm looking through the changelog and I can't see the phrase "0.21" show up anywhere. |
| [04:20:39] | cesman: | I'd know, I did compile it |
| [04:20:43] | Kichigai: | Cool. |
| [04:21:00] | Kichigai: | In that case, I'm sticking with what's always worked for me. |
| [04:21:06] | cesman: | :) |
| [04:21:14] | cesman: | Thanks for using KnoppMyth. |
| [04:21:40] | Kichigai: | No problem. |
| [04:22:44] | Kichigai: | I'd still rather see if I could just revive this install, but I suppose when MySQL won't start up, that's an overall bad sign. |
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| [04:38:01] | wagnerrp_: | when i was a poor starving college student with no job 6 years ago, i managed to put together a worthwhile machine |
| [04:38:13] | wagnerrp_: | $250 at the time, and its still capable of running HD mpeg2 |
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| [04:40:34] | Kichigai: | Well, it's not that important to me. I'm not doing HD, and I'm pretty sure my laptop has enough processing power to run Myth on a second monitor. |
| [04:41:03] | wagnerrp_: | this was my desktop at the time |
| [04:41:57] | Kichigai: | I'm sure once I get a job I can throw some cash into a decent dedicated front-end, but for now, I'm not concerned. |
| [04:42:01] | wagnerrp_: | im just saying a machine perfectly capable of running mythtv with anything short of HD h.264 video can be found in commercial surplus |
| [04:42:25] | wagnerrp_: | $50 on craigslist |
| [04:43:00] | Kichigai: | True, but I'm trying to curb my spending to save cash for other things, like a good video camera (I'm a Radio/TV/Film major, so it's helpful to have one ;) ) |
| [04:43:09] | Kichigai: | I get what you're saying, though. |
| [04:44:21] | Kichigai: | I've got like a gutted P3–500 sitting at home that just needs a hard disk and a video card with TV-Out, but I just don't feel like shipping it here (It's in MN, I'm in NJ) |
| [04:46:29] | Kichigai: | I'm not saying it's impossible for me in my situation, I'm just saying that for now, it's not something I'm too concerned with. If I moved in with a bunch of roommates, then I'd care. |
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| [04:47:07] | wagnerrp_: | well basically, its not worth running mythtv on an xbox |
| [04:47:19] | Kichigai: | And I'm willing to accept that. |
| [04:47:20] | wagnerrp_: | xbmc may be worth looking into |
| [04:47:30] | wagnerrp_: | and it can stream recordings from mythtv |
| [04:47:31] | Kichigai: | I've never gotten the MythTV script for XBMC to work right. |
| [04:47:35] | wagnerrp_: | ah |
| [04:47:44] | Kichigai: | Don't get me wrong, I love XBMC, it's just the script never seems to work. |
| [04:47:49] | wagnerrp_: | but mythtv just wants more than the 64MB of memory available |
| [04:47:59] | Kichigai: | No doubt. |
| [04:48:31] | Kichigai: | I've run 0.18 and 0.19 on it, and it wasn't too bad. Slow, and constantly swapping, but good enough. |
| [04:48:38] | Kichigai: | Convenient enough for my family. |
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| [04:49:48] | xal2: | hi |
| [04:50:04] | xal2: | I'm trying to do a channel scan, but the mythtv backend setup exits after i initiate the scan. |
| [04:50:15] | wagnerrp_: | as it should |
| [04:50:21] | xal2: | why? |
| [04:50:27] | wagnerrp_: | you were warned not to run the backend at the same time as mythtv-setup |
| [04:50:38] | wagnerrp_: | the backend wants access to the tuner |
| [04:50:43] | wagnerrp_: | the channel scan wants access to the tuner |
| [04:50:46] | xal2: | okay, i called the backend mythtv setup, my mistake |
| [04:50:48] | wagnerrp_: | they cant both have it at the same time |
| [04:51:06] | xal2: | mythtv-setup isn't running when i open the backend |
| [04:51:23] | wagnerrp_: | so mythtv-setup crashes when you run a channel scan? |
| [04:51:44] | xal2: | i didn't try to run mythtv-setup. |
| [04:52:06] | xal2: | in ubuntu the backend is called MythTV Backend Setup |
| [04:52:10] | xal2: | that's what I ran |
| [04:52:19] | xal2: | I get to the backend, do a channel scan and the program exits |
| [04:52:30] | xal2: | i can, however, add a channel with frequency manually with no problems |
| [04:52:41] | wagnerrp_: | the backend does not do channel scans, mythtv-setup does channel scans |
| [04:53:08] | wagnerrp_: | so mythtv-setup (the backend setup program) crashes when you do a channel scan? |
| [04:53:33] | xal2: | it exits and goes to fill the database |
| [04:54:39] | wagnerrp_: | mythtv-setup does not call mythfilldatabase, but rather tells you that you probably should |
| [04:54:55] | wagnerrp_: | of course myth in ubuntu could be doing something funky |
| [04:55:05] | xal2: | sorry, i'm not all that experienced wtih mythtv. it does ask if i want to run mythfilldatabase |
| [04:55:10] | xal2: | it doesn't do it automatically |
| [04:55:16] | wagnerrp_: | ive never used it, but i know it tries to prevent the user from having to do anything |
| [04:55:37] | xal2: | in my dmesg i get a segfault though |
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| [04:56:03] | wagnerrp_: | are you in the US / using schedules direct? |
| [04:56:13] | xal2: | i don't know what schedules direct is |
| [04:56:32] | wagnerrp_: | what about the first part? |
| [04:56:45] | xal2: | yes, i'm in the US |
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| [04:57:09] | wagnerrp_: | well typically users in the US get their scheduling data from scheduled direct |
| [04:57:34] | wagnerrp_: | which precludes the need for a channel scan |
| [04:57:40] | xal2: | i'll check that out |
| [04:57:53] | wagnerrp_: | its $20/yr for data |
| [04:57:59] | xal2: | eh that kinda sucks |
| [04:58:11] | xal2: | i don't know why it's exiting. i know the tuner works fine |
| [04:58:14] | xal2: | and nothing else is using it |
| [04:58:18] | wagnerrp_: | but it means you dont have to dick around for hours a month with screen scrapers |
| [04:58:28] | wagnerrp_: | or have to hope for luck with digital EIT data |
| [04:59:16] | wagnerrp_: | i dont know why the channel scan causes a segfault, but you shouldnt need to use it |
| [04:59:23] | xal2: | i'll try it |
| [04:59:28] | xal2: | the schedules direct |
| [04:59:34] | xal2: | thanks ^_^ |
| [04:59:35] | wagnerrp_: | there is a 7 day free trial for SD |
| [04:59:50] | wagnerrp_: | and if nothing else, that will load in the channel layout so you dont have to do a manual scan |
| [05:00:04] | wagnerrp_: | of course mythtv is next to worthless without scheduling data |
| [05:00:09] | xal2: | true |
| [05:00:29] | wagnerrp_: | and EIT data in the US is hit or miss (and digital only) |
| [05:02:23] | Kichigai: | SD is worth the cash, in my limited experience with it. |
| [05:02:37] | Kichigai: | EIT is just so limited. |
| [05:03:50] | xal2: | i'll see if it works for me |
| [05:05:29] | xal2: | hm, i put in my schedules direct info in mythbackend and let it fill the database but no channels were added |
| [05:05:43] | Kichigai: | Did you add a schedule to your SD account? |
| [05:07:18] | xal2: | sorry, i'm tired, not really reading. i'll do my research on this one and come back |
| [05:07:21] | xal2: | if i need help |
| [05:10:29] | wagnerrp_: | basically, if youre in the US, its worth the minimal cost for the time saved |
| [05:20:17] | Kichigai: | And future information gained |
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| [05:57:55] | dpick: | i'm having trouble connecting with xmbc, i can't get connect to the sql database, but the i know the settings are correct, any ideas? |
| [06:00:14] | wagnerrp_: | typically thats a mysql permissions issue |
| [06:00:30] | wagnerrp_: | you didnt give that user access to that database from that IP |
| [06:00:40] | dpick: | ok |
| [06:00:45] | dpick: | how would i go about doing that? |
| [06:01:20] | wagnerrp_: | 'mysql -uroot -p' (you better know your root password) |
| [06:01:48] | dpick: | haha i do, thanks |
| [06:01:50] | wagnerrp_: | "grant all on mythconverg.* to 'mythtv'@'<xbmc IP>' identified by 'mythtv'" |
| [06:02:05] | wagnerrp_: | you have to end that line with a ';' |
| [06:02:12] | wagnerrp_: | all mysql commands must be ended with one |
| [06:02:15] | dpick: | ok |
| [06:03:32] | dpick: | its not accpecting the password i've used before for remote clients |
| [06:03:50] | wagnerrp_: | whats not accepting the password? |
| [06:03:54] | dpick: | nvm i got |
| [06:05:18] | dpick: | it said 0 rows affected? |
| [06:05:46] | wagnerrp_: | probably |
| [06:06:05] | wagnerrp_: | if you want to check it, its database 'mysql', table 'user' |
| [06:06:19] | dpick: | alright |
| [06:07:50] | dpick: | it said mythconver.user doesn't exist |
| [06:08:06] | wagnerrp_: | thats right, mythconverg.user does not exist |
| [06:08:41] | wagnerrp_: | mysql.user should work just fine |
| [06:09:15] | dpick: | yeah its there, but it sill won't connect |
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| [08:24:23] | cesman: | compile kernel compile! |
| [08:26:24] | ** Maliuta passes cesman -j ** | |
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| [08:28:58] | noaXess: | hi all |
| [08:29:27] | noaXess: | is there a dvb-c dual card out for mythtv? i need to revord two things at same time |
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| [08:41:05] | cesman: | Maliuta: thanks ;) |
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| [08:43:51] | psm321: | hi |
| [08:44:21] | psm321: | anyone know a way to change what the "Look for duplicates in" setting defaults to for new schedules? |
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| [08:51:08] | noaXess: | if i want record to tv-shows at the same time, is the only way havin two dvb-c pci cards?... cause i can't found a dvb-c dual receiver card for mythtv? |
| [08:52:53] | psm321: | n/m about my question, looks like the default is hardcoded in the source |
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| [09:13:33] | Maliuta: | cesman: it's just a -j, how you use it is up to you ... I recommend using it with and x where 1>x<6 :) |
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| [09:19:59] | clever: | Maliuta: i tend to use the number of cores*2 (counting every core i can reach thru distcc) |
| [09:20:32] | clever: | though for the systems with real low ram, i alocate 1 job to them |
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| [09:38:13] | justinh: | psm321: should be an easy patch. But yoik! Another setting :( |
| [09:39:05] | cesman: | Maliuta: I'm well aware thanks |
| [09:41:04] | clever: | justinh: could make it like the livetv timeout setting, used from the settings table but no gui to control it |
| [09:41:34] | clever: | 'LiveTVIdleTimeout' in the settings table |
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| [10:11:17] | GlemSom: | Is it possible to use a mpeg4 stream as an input device in mythtv? Like using a fifo throwing out a mpeg4 stream? |
| [10:12:41] | tank-man: | like iptv or whatever? i believe so |
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| [10:15:29] | GlemSom: | tank-man, Yeah – like ivtv... just mpeg4 instead of mpeg2. But I don't know how to configure mythtv-setup for that kind of setup... |
| [10:15:58] | tank-man: | ive only seen it mentioned in the docs, havent used it |
| [10:38:10] | justinh: | sounds pretty hair-brained to me |
| [10:39:03] | justinh: | anyway, mythtv's network recorder probably doesn't care about what format the stream is so it won't matter whether it's mpeg2 or mpeg4 |
| [10:46:00] | justinh: | oh look! the wiki (sort of) knows! http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/IPTV |
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| [11:08:17] | GlemSom: | http://www.avenard.org/iptv/MythTV.html <- I've found this... But I do not have anything option called network recorder.. Do I need a special version of mythtv? |
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| [11:13:38] | laga: | GlemSom: 0.21? |
| [11:15:10] | GlemSom: | laga, hmm to be honest I'm just using 0.20... Maybe it's about time I upgrade :P |
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| [11:15:47] | laga: | yeah. ;) |
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| [12:14:21] | justinh: | looks like ffmpeg is gonna be busy today |
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| [12:30:38] | justinh: | ruh? ffmpeg has no x264 support? oh ffs |
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| [13:14:06] | peman: | morrn morrn |
| [13:14:31] | pat_: | goodnight |
| [13:14:34] | ** pat_ goes to bed ** | |
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| [13:24:12] | peman: | Q: What is wrong if I cant select to watch live tv? It just returns to the main menu directly.. (on my minimyth frontend) (live tv works ok on the backend) (also, watching recorded programs works on the frontend...) |
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| [13:27:19] | peman: | (and the backend log shows nothing strange..) |
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| [13:50:18] | directhex: | and the frontend log? |
| [13:55:07] | peman: | nothing there, if its logged to /var/log/messages in minimyth dist.. (cant find any other log) |
| [13:57:29] | iamlindoro_: | doubtful, just run mythfrontend from a terminal |
| [13:57:34] | iamlindoro_: | voila, instant log |
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| [14:01:41] | peman: | good idea.. hmm.. if I just can find what X display it uses.. |
| [14:03:24] | peman: | hmm.. seems like X died at same time I killed frontend.. so.. xinit started |
| [14:03:29] | sebrock: | Hmm Im trying to modify the `loading...` screen when starting a video in mythvideo. I found the text in video-ui.xml but it doesnt change... any clues? |
| [14:05:50] | peman: | nothing useful in the frontend log :-/ |
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| [14:11:56] | GlemSom: | I've setup mythtv to use "Network recorder" – I've pointed it to a m3u file containing this: http://pastebin.com/m7784ef65 vlc started like this: http://pastebin.com/m6e995f58. But when I tune into that channel – mythtv cannot find anything. I've tested the streaming using vlc and mplayer... Thet can both play the stream. |
| [14:12:21] | peman: | It could be related to a change in settings.. but if so, what? (It worked at first for a while, then I changed date format, and scrolled through the settings, and saved.. maybe I scrolled through other settings) |
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| [14:20:06] | zippytech2: | any one here know anything about failed writing HTTP request, Bad file descriptor |
| [14:20:15] | zippytech2: | when updating guide |
| [14:21:43] | peman: | So.. I solved my problem.. restarted backend and now it works like a charm to watch live-tv.. strange error.. |
| [14:22:11] | peman: | thanks for input directhex and iamlindoro_ |
| [14:22:46] | justinh: | sebrock: that screen is deprecated. update the theme |
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| [14:28:58] | justinh: | oh ffs ffmpeg from m***buntu doesn't have aac encoding support. |
| [14:29:05] | justinh: | GRRRRRRRRRRR |
| [14:35:56] | PatrickDK: | nope, you need mediabuntu :( |
| [14:36:11] | iamlindoro: | I think that's the one he means |
| [14:36:22] | PatrickDK: | I thought he meant mythbuntu |
| [14:36:28] | PatrickDK: | cause my mediabuntu one has aac |
| [14:36:39] | iamlindoro: | ah, perhaps you're right |
| [14:36:49] | PatrickDK: | too many buntu's |
| [14:37:16] | PatrickDK: | now I need to figure out how to get ffmpeg to say the video is widescreen |
| [14:37:25] | PatrickDK: | cause -aspect 16x9 didn't do it |
| [14:42:07] | PatrickDK: | hmm, -aspect 16:9 I mean |
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| [15:08:59] | GlemSom: | How do I select an external channel-change script when using "Network recorder" as an input device? |
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| [15:14:28] | GlemSom: | Or, how do I make mythtv run a script when changing channels? |
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| [15:57:46] | hume: | hi... I am trying to configure a new installation of mythtv – using ubuntu hardy, and I have installed mysql and mythtv-packages (mythtv, mythtv-backend-master etc) – but when starting backend-setup I get "no Upnp backeds found" – anyone knows what might be wrong? |
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| [16:02:05] | sebrock: | justinh, I got it thanks |
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| [17:36:44] | tank-man: | what is backend-setup? i dont have that executable |
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| [17:41:47] | Hilikus: | hey guys |
| [17:41:55] | Hilikus: | anyone here using lirc_pvr150 module |
| [17:42:17] | Hilikus: | my lirc_pvr150 module is always using ~ 1% of my cpu |
| [17:42:42] | Hilikus: | is that normal? |
| [17:42:56] | Hilikus: | the cpu time for thas process is already 194:53 |
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| [17:53:21] | benklop: | hello everyone |
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| [17:54:07] | forrestv: | are there any usb receivers+blasters that have an external ir receiver? |
| [17:55:19] | benklop: | what are the minimum requirements for an HD backend? i have a pIII 1Ghz, and all I really want to use it for is a backend with storage for the HD homerun |
| [17:56:18] | PatrickDK: | benklop, your talking 8.5gigs per hour of video |
| [17:56:37] | benklop: | i was gonna put a 500 GB drive in it |
| [17:56:53] | PatrickDK: | 450/8.5=hours it can hold |
| [17:56:54] | benklop: | but stream it elsewhere for playback |
| [17:56:56] | PatrickDK: | approx |
| [17:57:25] | benklop: | my big concern is either ram (it has a max of 256MB) or processor speed |
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| [17:58:55] | benklop: | also, is usb 1.0 fast enough to connect an external hard drive |
| [17:59:01] | benklop: | for hd recording |
| [17:59:03] | PatrickDK: | hell no |
| [17:59:07] | benklop: | lol |
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| [17:59:26] | benklop: | okay then :) guess i'll have to stick with an internal |
| [18:00:05] | PatrickDK: | usb2, if it's dedecated to just one drive, and it does get good speed >35megs per second, can handle like 3, maybe 5 streams |
| [18:00:19] | PatrickDK: | usb1 can handle about .4 streams |
| [18:04:52] | Huijari: | anyone here use arch linux, kernel 2.6.26 and dvb? |
| [18:07:03] | benklop: | i have this box that uses very little power, but has just usb1 |
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| [19:10:14] | forrestv: | are there any usb receivers+blasters that have an external ir receiver? |
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| [20:09:32] | justinh: | hrmph. not really worth doing a 2-pass encode of this video |
| [20:09:50] | justinh: | ? |
| [20:09:58] | justinh: | oops |
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| [20:29:45] | iamlindoro: | Hooray for eBay and countries with horrible local prices on computing equipment |
| [20:29:56] | iamlindoro: | (and camera equipment) |
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| [20:32:02] | rambo3: | shipment price = 3 times the product |
| [20:32:17] | iamlindoro: | shipment price == paid by them ;) |
| [20:34:14] | justinh: | I effingffmpeg! arghhh! |
| [20:34:26] | laga: | did someone just get scammed? |
| [20:34:58] | justinh: | okay folks. how much to we have to pay ffmpeg developers to keep commandline options the same for a few minutes?! |
| [20:35:02] | iamlindoro: | Depends on if you mean me as the scammer or scamee |
| [20:35:29] | justinh: | I tried k9copy. couldn't figure it out for love nor money |
| [20:36:10] | justinh: | how old is dvd now? you'd think there'd be at least one idiot-proof ripping/transcode program by now |
| [20:36:16] | laga: | well, k9copy :) |
| [20:37:23] | iamlindoro: | Handbrake |
| [20:37:25] | iamlindoro: | (also) |
| [20:38:25] | iamlindoro: | also see: http://rippedwire.sourceforge.net/ |
| [20:39:07] | justinh: | k9 just borked the aspect ratio again |
| [20:39:12] | justinh: | this is so fucking lame |
| [20:39:20] | iamlindoro: | And to conclude: http://linuxcrypt.net/?p=119 |
| [20:39:20] | laga: | do you rip to iso? |
| [20:39:38] | justinh: | no, I don't want to copy the whole disc |
| [20:39:49] | laga: | ah, okay. i always do that. |
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| [20:40:21] | iamlindoro: | justinh, For serious, I think you'd be happy with handbrake + Rippedwire, check it out |
| [20:40:33] | justinh: | handbrake for linux? thought it was mac only |
| [20:40:43] | iamlindoro: | Rippedwire is the GTK frontend to it |
| [20:40:50] | avihayb: | umm, hello. I'm heaving some problems importing my xmltv manualy into my freshly installed mythubuntu front/backend |
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| [20:40:56] | justinh: | well, so it'll work ok but look like crap :) |
| [20:41:04] | justinh: | that I can live with |
| [20:41:25] | laga: | avihayb: it'd also help if you'd be more specific, or paste an error message into a pastebin |
| [20:41:27] | iamlindoro: | It ought to look pretty good, AFAIK it just leverages x264 and the other host of linux CLI goodies |
| [20:41:34] | justinh: | !trout stupidlinuxdesktop hiding-tops-of-windows |
| [20:41:34] | ** MythLogBot slaps stupidlinuxdesktop with a hiding-tops-of-windows trout on behalf of justinh... ** | |
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| [20:42:36] | avihayb: | laga: well, I created an xmltv file with a program called megaEPG. It's been used constantly by other mythusers |
| [20:43:03] | avihayb: | lega: the problem is that nothing shows on the guide |
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| [20:43:22] | justinh: | laga: I catted the vob files I want into one file, I just want to turn that into an h.264 video with aac audio |
| [20:43:42] | justinh: | prolly going to have to resort to xvid with mp3 as usual |
| [20:44:19] | avihayb: | lega: as far as I gather it's somewhere in the input linking whatchamacall it with the scan channles, or a mythfilldb with the wrong input ID |
| [20:45:08] | avihayb: | lega: not infront of the tv, so I forgot the exact term |
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| [20:56:23] | avihayb: | lega: I went and checked, and I used source ID 1. I only have one card, but it has multiple inputs if that matters. I'm curently only useing one |
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| [20:57:07] | avihayb: | lega: there are no error messages. the program guid si just empty |
| [20:59:05] | avihayb: | if anyone else wants to contribute, feel free |
| [21:00:57] | iamlindoro: | avihayb, If I had to guess, I would say that your channels probably don't have XMLTVids associated with them-- I would look at the XML output of your grabber, and find an XMLTVid for one of your channels-- Take that number, go into myth's channels editor, and place it in the appropriate box. Then run through the whole grabber/mythfilldatabase steps again, and see if that one channel ends up with listings |
| [21:02:43] | avihayb: | iamlindoro: so I need to give a string as a name to a channle (they are currently 1–41), acording to the strings that appear in the XMLTV? |
| [21:03:16] | iamlindoro: | No, edit a channel, and you will see a box called "XMLTVid" |
| [21:03:46] | iamlindoro: | that box should contain the XMLTVid you got from your listings grabber |
| [21:03:55] | iamlindoro: | which should be unique for each channel |
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| [21:04:13] | iamlindoro: | And seperate from the name/callsign/etc. |
| [21:04:26] | avihayb: | ok, thanks, I'll try it out |
| [21:04:48] | iamlindoro: | np |
| [21:05:15] | iamlindoro: | Here the XMLTVid is usually a 5–6 digital number, ie "15389" but it may vary abroad |
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| [21:08:49] | laga: | it's like ard.de here |
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| [21:16:01] | iamlindoro: | yeah, looks like the XMLTVid of a site name is pretty common in a number of grabbers |
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| [21:27:04] | ** russell_ looking for recommendations for currently available hardware to use for tuning/recording atsc signals, as well as capture video from a vcr output. ** | |
| [21:28:01] | iamlindoro: | HVR-1600 |
| [21:28:19] | avihayb: | iamlindoro: well, I messed around, alot actualy. now if I run mythfilldatabase, he wants me to run it with --manual, when I ran it manualy, it wants me to run it with --configure first, and when I'm runing it with --configure, it says that it's an unaccepted paramater |
| [21:28:45] | avihayb: | iamlindoro: buy I followed your advice, more or less, and I now have one channle showing the correct data |
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| [21:29:46] | iamlindoro: | avihayb, heh, well then sounds like you need to associate each XMLTVid with each channel, and you ought to be all set-- regarding --configure, btw, I'm fairly certain it's telling you to run your *grabber* with --configure, not mythfilldatabase |
| [21:33:12] | avihayb: | well, how'dya do that? |
| [21:33:25] | iamlindoro: | which part? |
| [21:35:35] | avihayb: | the grabber |
| [21:37:01] | iamlindoro: | whateverthenameofyourgrabberis --configure |
| [21:37:08] | iamlindoro: | most likely |
| [21:41:31] | russell_: | what is the difference between "Hauppauge 1178 WinTV-HVR-1600 Internal Hybrid TV Tuner/Video Recorder" and "Hauppauge 1199 WinTV HVR-1600 Internal PCI Dual TV Tuner/Video Recorder with IR Receiver and Blaster"? |
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| [21:42:28] | Eko: | Hullo. |
| [21:42:30] | iamlindoro: | Well what does the difference SOUND like? |
| [21:42:39] | iamlindoro: | Perhaps it *includes* something else? |
| [21:42:46] | avihayb: | I actualy did a big mess. I tryed to load an xml. when it seemed to have ignored me when I pressed the (translating to english) "import channles from source list" button |
| [21:42:54] | russell_: | yeah so wtf is a IR received/blaster? |
| [21:43:02] | iamlindoro: | google knows |
| [21:43:16] | Dagmar: | it's called a transciever |
| [21:43:25] | Dagmar: | It'll have both a reciever element and an IR LED for transmnitting |
| [21:43:26] | avihayb: | I pressed the scan for channles, that on a composit input did nothing but fill in some channles |
| [21:43:29] | Dagmar: | It's pretty simple, man |
| [21:43:41] | Eko: | I'm trying to import my channels.conf into mythTV, and when I start the "scan" I see on the console a bunch of "Imported channel: NBCHD 2 -1 on 683000..." etc lines, followed immediately by "Can't open DVB frontend" |
| [21:43:44] | PatrickDK: | transciever = high tech shit :) |
| [21:43:49] | ** russell_ just looking for translation from sales-speak ** | |
| [21:43:55] | Dagmar: | Nah, it's just an engineer term |
| [21:43:58] | Eko: | Of course, scans work, etc. |
| [21:44:11] | avihayb: | then I tryed to populate the list with the builting grubber, that as far as I know is outdated |
| [21:44:17] | Eko: | Why would it be unable to open the frontend here but not other times? |
| [21:44:40] | avihayb: | I guess, I need to clear out everything |
| [21:44:52] | russell_: | Dagmar: i'm assuming its just a remote control? |
| [21:45:13] | ** russell_ doesn't watch teevee usually ** | |
| [21:46:00] | avihayb: | transciver = can recive and transmit |
| [21:46:07] | iamlindoro: | receiver for remote, blaster to change channels on a set top box |
| [21:46:07] | russell_: | yeah, thanks |
| [21:46:10] | russell_: | ah |
| [21:46:15] | russell_: | thank you |
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| [21:48:14] | Eko: | Why would I get "Can't open DVB frontend (<path>)" when I import a channels.conf and not when I do a normal channel scan? I just updated mythtv today. |
| [21:49:28] | directhex: | because channels.conf is incomplete. it can't convey all the info needed to tune dvb, especially in countries like the uk |
| [21:49:49] | Eko: | So that keeps it from being able to even open the frontend? |
| [21:50:16] | Eko: | And does that mean that I'm SOL or is there a workaround, or some way to provide more information? |
| [21:50:19] | directhex: | it shouldn't stop the frontend starting, but certaily should break tuning |
| [21:51:13] | Eko: | That's fine, I'm content to fix the channel tuning myself, but I have to get the channels into the database somehow, and I have been so far unsuccessful in constructing my own queries to add the info where it needs to go. |
| [21:52:03] | Eko: | And there are numerous howtos and documentation pieces on the web which I have read through, so I'm confident that I can debug it once the dtv_multiplex and channel entries actually exist, etc. |
| [21:52:32] | directhex: | have you reported bugs as to why the channel scanner isn't sufficient? |
| [21:54:30] | Eko: | From what I've seen, such limitations are well known. It's mostly the fact that the channel scanner appears completely incapable of actually determining if there really is something ON the channel or not. Which is debatably outside its purview. |
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| [21:54:59] | Eko: | If you think that would be beneficial, I will most certainly do so, but I don't want to pollute the dev's buglists with duplicate, already-known issues. |
| [21:55:02] | directhex: | something being "well known" doesn't mean there's a useful bug report which can be used to fix it |
| [21:56:18] | Eko: | In that case, I will do so. I presume it would be most useful to post two separate bugs, one about why I find the channel scanner not useful and another for the inability for the channel.conf importer to open the frontend? |
| [21:57:24] | iamlindoro: | The channel scanner is currently being rewritten, and both are likely to be closed as invlaid |
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| [21:57:27] | iamlindoro: | er invalid |
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| [21:58:44] | iamlindoro: | and yes, you're right, the channel scanner's sole job is to take the the information advertised by your transponders and commit it to the DB... if it's getting bad info about channels that aren't actually there, that's for your system's engineers |
| [21:58:57] | iamlindoro: | The former deficiencies with the channel scanner have fixes in progress AFAIK |
| [21:59:14] | Eko: | I wish I had time to be a part of such development =/ Work. Bah. |
| [22:00:23] | Eko: | What I did to get my channels.conf is dvbscan and then filter that list by seeing which ones mplayer will actually play. (scripted, of course.) |
| [22:00:38] | Eko: | Seems within the realm of what mythtv should be able to do in some sort of automated fashion |
| [22:00:58] | iamlindoro: | Why should mythtv have to compensate for broken systems? |
| [22:01:04] | Eko: | but my old way of scanning and then manually trying to tune to each one took hours and hours, and after the fourth time (comcast keeps changing things) it got old. |
| [22:01:47] | Eko: | Who says the system is broken? The channels are probably legitimately /there/ but aren't being broadcast on, for instance PPV channels that aren't active. |
| [22:01:53] | iamlindoro: | Ah, so you're talking about filtering out encrypted and VOD channels |
| [22:02:04] | Eko: | Yup. |
| [22:02:17] | iamlindoro: | In that case, when myth scans there ARE programs there |
| [22:02:21] | justinh: | damnit how long does this transcoding lark take? I might just take the 8GB space hit instead |
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| [22:02:31] | directhex: | the channel scanner should be able to skip encrypted content |
| [22:02:33] | iamlindoro: | just by the time you get to trying to watch them, the VOD stream has ended-- that's how VOD works |
| [22:02:53] | iamlindoro: | the channel itself disappears after it's not being watched any more |
| [22:03:11] | iamlindoro: | so, in fact, as of the exact moment myth scans, there is a channel with legit content there-- nothing to be done about that |
| [22:03:21] | Eko: | directhex: it seems to skip the whole mplex if any of the channels are encrypted or something, because it misses a whole lot when I tell it to ignore encrypted and audio-only. |
| [22:03:28] | iamlindoro: | no, it doesn't |
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| [22:03:58] | iamlindoro: | as in, it does not skip whole muxes if there is an encrypted channel on it |
| [22:04:07] | Eko: | Then why does it skip channels that are obviously unencrypted? |
| [22:04:09] | justinh: | might just need a small tweak in the scanner to skip the VOD stuff |
| [22:04:33] | iamlindoro: | justinh, Can't imagine how-- it looks, for all intents and purposes, like any unencrypted QAM channel |
| [22:04:38] | justinh: | Eko: because of these things called 'standards' not actually _being_ standards anymore |
| [22:04:48] | iamlindoro: | Eko, Obviously unencrypted to *you* doesn't mean they don't have the encryption bit on |
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| [22:04:49] | Eko: | I would be fine with a few (even a few tens of) channels that aren't really there, but I get HUNDREDS of channels that won't tune. And only about 15 which will. |
| [22:05:06] | iamlindoro: | well *duh* |
| [22:05:13] | iamlindoro: | You are allowing it to scan encrypted channels |
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| [22:05:21] | iamlindoro: | That's completely par for the course |
| [22:05:33] | justinh: | and maybe your provider only gives you like 15 unencrippled channels |
| [22:05:42] | justinh: | that's the rub right there |
| [22:05:42] | Eko: | I get 4 channels when I have it skip encrypted and audio-only channels. |
| [22:05:50] | justinh: | or less |
| [22:05:52] | iamlindoro: | Again, complain to Comcast |
| [22:05:53] | justinh: | or none |
| [22:06:02] | Eko: | really only two, the other two are the same multiplex. |
| [22:06:03] | nordle: | Evening all, its very quiet at the moment. Because I cant annoy the neighbours with my music :) mythplugins compiled with ogg, yet when try to play file I get "mythmusic decoderogg failed to open" |
| [22:06:09] | iamlindoro: | as they are turning *on* the bit that signals encryption, and leaving the *stream* unencrypted |
| [22:06:32] | iamlindoro: | So they are *broken* |
| [22:06:36] | Eko: | iamlindoro: I have tried. The service people insist that I must have a DTV converter box hiding somewhere because they can't concieve of me being able to watch it without their converter box. |
| [22:06:45] | iamlindoro: | Call the company and ask to speak to an engineer, and explain how they're not standards compliant |
| [22:07:21] | Eko: | Yeah, they always tell me that engineers are not on hand at the service department. |
| [22:07:24] | iamlindoro: | anyway, that's all secondary, as myth works *fine* so long as the broadcaster follows the rules |
| [22:07:27] | justinh: | or just flat complain they don't fulfil their legal obligation to provide unencrypted channels on their service. Oh wait – they're not legally obliged |
| [22:07:47] | Eko: | iamlindoro: how many providers actually do? |
| [22:07:56] | iamlindoro: | and so long as the user doesn't expect myth to be able to do anything about it when they allow it to scan for encrypted channels |
| [22:08:02] | Eko: | From my experience pretty much just over the air. |
| [22:08:03] | iamlindoro: | Eko, Many/most |
| [22:08:15] | iamlindoro: | And about 95% of broadcasters outside the USA |
| [22:08:18] | justinh: | Eko: mythtv has workarounds for a multitude of deviations from 'standards' |
| [22:08:26] | iamlindoro: | ITVHD and finnish DVB-C aside |
| [22:08:39] | justinh: | ITVHD are just scummy |
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| [22:09:07] | justinh: | nordle: got permission to read the files? files exist? yada yada |
| [22:09:26] | justinh: | cos I had that problem when I moved my music directory but forgot to tell mythmusic ;) |
| [22:11:57] | justinh: | oh dear gawd. this is the worst looking 500MB video file I've ever seen |
| [22:12:08] | justinh: | and the audio is the wrong samplerate |
| [22:12:27] | justinh: | transcoding == still a black art |
| [22:13:26] | iamlindoro: | justinh, Still not willing to try Rippedwire, eh? ;) |
| [22:13:50] | justinh: | looks like I'll be building it myself if I want to |
| [22:14:20] | justinh: | hey ho it's not like I haven't spent all night getting ffmpeg all juiced up |
| [22:15:21] | iamlindoro: | This is what you get when you forget to --enable-virgin-sacrifice and --goats-blood=1 |
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| [22:21:20] | justinh: | ooo segfaulty |
| [22:22:30] | justinh: | woo that was a very quick transcode. well under 10 secs for more than an hour of video :D |
| [22:22:33] | justinh: | :-\ |
| [22:22:34] | justinh: | suck |
| [22:22:35] | justinh: | SUCK |
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| [22:23:56] | nordle: | justinh: ooops, I changed the location of the audio about 5 months ago, forgot to update table :) I've got a script for transcoding stuff, may be of use to you..? |
| [22:23:58] | justinh: | okay. they win. it stays as a DVD |
| [22:24:18] | justinh: | nordle: scripts are FA use when the ffmpeg options change every 5 fucking seconds |
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| [22:24:58] | nordle: | justinh: I guess I don't use too many options, as not noticed. |
| [22:25:08] | justinh: | I don't give up easily, but I've spent about 8 hours on this, I GIVE UP |
| [22:25:32] | nordle: | Just out of curiosty, cant spell, what was it you were doing? |
| [22:25:52] | justinh: | trying to turn a bunch of VOB files into h.264 with aac audio |
| [22:26:19] | directhex: | i use a windows app |
| [22:26:34] | justinh: | I failed horribly at that, probably something to do with libx264 being too new for svn ffmpeg – so I tried making xvid with mp3 audio. I also failed spectacularly there |
| [22:26:39] | directhex: | wifey's pc is faster than mine, and i couldn't get ffmpeg to make standards-compliant output |
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| [22:26:59] | justinh: | yeah I've used autogk before. I looked damn awful, was a maze of config options but you know what – it did the job! |
| [22:27:12] | directhex: | of course, transcoding apps running in wine take only a minimal hit |
| [22:27:23] | justinh: | to hell with it |
| [22:27:29] | directhex: | the app i'm a fan of these days is called "ripbot264" |
| [22:28:04] | justinh: | if I had the disk space I'd uncompress the big vob to uncompressed AVI then just use virtualdub |
| [22:28:15] | nordle: | justinh: I know you wanted to use ffmpeg on its own, but I encode h264 with latest cvs mencoder and cvs ffmpeg and cvs x264, works well. (cvs may mean svn or whatever). |
| [22:28:32] | justinh: | mencoder has worse commandline options than ffmpeg |
| [22:28:52] | iamlindoro: | indeed it is svn |
| [22:28:58] | iamlindoro: | except for x264, which is git |
| [22:29:01] | justinh: | command lines 3 pages long are not fun |
| [22:29:50] | justinh: | yeah well. I keep seeing "no ratecontrol method specified" with x264 & ffmpeg |
| [22:29:59] | justinh: | aye I tried google |
| [22:30:13] | justinh: | this just isn't fun. I'd rather make a new theme in paint |
| [22:30:20] | iamlindoro: | Oh, new annoying movie downloader meme? "PS3AVCHD" |
| [22:30:50] | iamlindoro: | Hey, cocksucker, if it's AVCHD, it'll play on your PS3, but there's no magic cell engine pixie dust |
| [22:30:51] | nordle: | This is my ccommand, actuially this is months old, but im in win at the mo and no access to current file i use. You can guess the variables. time mencoder $3 -dvd-device $DVD -alang en -forceidx -fps 25 -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=$2:aq=2 -ovc x264 -x264encopts threads=2:trellis=0:crf=17:qp_min=11:qp_max=35:subq=4:keyint=100 -vf scale=560:448,pp=ac/lb,hqdn3d=1:1:1:1 -sws 2 -o $4.avi |
| [22:31:37] | justinh: | right now that just looks like FJkhdsgfjhsgfjhadsgfyugft6aewft~3t6r4~~4~5t8uyjfgER6~G1~~V`14C 0~O064VC8GX 32IU |
| [22:32:16] | justinh: | like I said. to hell with it. my wife can just go & put her MOTHERLOVING DVDs in by herself |
| [22:32:28] | nordle: | is that because my win xchat client mashed the output, or is that a comment on the state of mencoder switches? |
| [22:32:48] | iamlindoro: | The latter |
| [22:33:17] | justinh: | me so solly, me no omnicognic like yoo mister mplayer developer |
| [22:33:26] | justinh: | :) |
| [22:33:40] | justinh: | gimme presets for mortals please |
| [22:34:04] | nordle: | Fair enough, its true, spent about 6 months tweaking, tweaking. Been happy with the results for a year now so no need to change em. |
| [22:34:08] | justinh: | oh I forgot. user requests to /dev/null |
| [22:34:30] | justinh: | killed by my own medicine. serves me right |
| [22:34:59] | justinh: | ah well. back to windows the dvd rip job goes. it might take all night but it'll work |
| [22:35:44] | justinh: | that's kyboshed my 'heh, I'm a man, I can do ffmpeg on the commandline'. Can I bollocks |
| [22:36:11] | nordle: | can anyone help me out with my xine issue? Yes, I know, this is mythtv but many of you may run xine. It used to load from remote control, but that no longer works. It flashes up and closes again. If I run same command from cli, it works fine. |
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| [22:36:28] | justinh: | apparently though, more than half those parameters are only needed because the defaults are arse |
| [22:37:07] | ** justinh goes in search of 'free' video conversion software ** | |
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| [22:38:24] | nordle: | justinh: recommend ripit4me |
| [22:40:34] | ajh: | So, anyone tried a Studio Hybrid front end yet? :) |
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| [22:41:38] | nordle: | bugger it, still cant play ogg files, same error. Permissions are rw for mythtv. |
| [22:42:24] | xand: | grrrr.... I wish freeview recordings were properly usable in software other than mythtv |
| [22:42:56] | nordle: | xand: usable? |
| [22:43:57] | xand: | well |
| [22:44:25] | xand: | I can watch them in mplayer and vlc... but mplayer usually tries to play the wrong audio track, and neither program will show me how long the recordings are, or how much I've watched... |
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| [22:46:58] | xand: | I'd like mythtv to transcode stuff but haven't been able to make that work >.< |
| [22:52:57] | nordle: | xand: If you forceidx when encoding, this usually helps. But i agree, its pointless hassle. Mplayer playing the wrong audio track is VERY annoying :) |
| [22:53:07] | nordle: | But I get the same issue with DVD's too. |
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| [22:53:56] | xand: | I can't use mencoder to transcode the recordings, as it's impossible to specify the correct track — the same bug seems to stop -aid working correctly |
| [22:54:02] | xand: | s/bug/issue/ |
| [22:55:15] | ** directhex wonders whether justinh actually noticed the "ripbot264" comment ** | |
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| [22:56:48] | nordle: | Any ideas on this ogg playback issue? http://pastebin.com/m4db45658 Perms are rw for mythtv, should be enough? |
| [22:59:10] | avihayb: | ok, my channleguide is working, just have to write that IR blaster script... |
| [22:59:43] | avihayb: | I have a problem with shows that I've used live record on for a few sec/min not showing up on play recordings |
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| [23:00:09] | avihayb: | I can see the files in the storage directory |
| [23:00:24] | avihayb: | but not thru mythTV |
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| [23:00:43] | avihayb: | unless, I let it record for the whole 1 hour limit |
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| [23:01:45] | gbee: | nordle: Error 5 tends to mean either it can find the file or a permissions issue, I know you've changed the perms but are you absolutely sure the file is accessible to the user running mythfrontend? |
| [23:03:23] | nordle: | gbee: chown mythtv:mythtv /home/mythtv/audio/* -R && chmod ug+rw /home/mythtv/audio/ -R |
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| [23:04:16] | gbee: | ps -Al | grep mythfrontend |
| [23:04:54] | gbee: | and do a rescan just in case the file isn't where it expects to find it anymore |
| [23:05:07] | nordle: | 0 R 1000 6619 1 21 80 0 – 62951 – ? 00:00:02 mythfrontend |
| [23:05:31] | dagar: | I've been thinking about switching my main backend to ubuntu from centos, if I went with ubuntu lts how long would I be able to get up to date myth packages? |
| [23:05:40] | ** nordle is very sheepish, think I forgot the rescan. ** | |
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| [23:06:58] | directhex: | dagar, ask in #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [23:07:23] | dagar: | k |
| [23:08:09] | gbee: | umm, well I hope that fixes things – I didn't mean ps -Al but I'm having a complete brain freeze right now and can't remember the switches necessary to show the owners of processes |
| [23:08:28] | gbee: | by username instead of uid |
| [23:09:09] | directhex: | ps shows username instead of uid if username is too long |
| [23:10:44] | nordle: | gbee: Thanks! yes it fixed it. mmmm, should ogg files be displayed in music similar to mp3, in that, grouped by album/artist etc. |
| [23:11:55] | gbee: | depends if they have readable tags to extract that information and how you have mythmusic configured to arrange music |
| [23:12:27] | nordle: | gbee: I'll see if another app can read the tags and double check settings. |
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| [23:17:25] | J-e-f-f-A: | 8 |
| [23:20:01] | justinh: | xand: you know, freeview recording timestamps are all over the show |
| [23:20:24] | justinh: | if you want things to be different you need to remux em |
| [23:21:00] | justinh: | I used to find "ffmpeg -i $file -acodec copy -vcodec copy" worked ok but I'm not ffmpeg's friend anymore |
| [23:21:27] | xand: | I tried using mencoder... that was a laugh |
| [23:21:44] | justinh: | it's as funny as a family member dying, innit |
| [23:21:57] | xand: | it fails due to audio track fail |
| [23:22:15] | justinh: | oh you might need to remap the audio streams sometimes |
| [23:22:26] | justinh: | damn broadcasters not labelling streams properly |
| [23:22:29] | xand: | well |
| [23:22:42] | xand: | VLC always gets that right, mplayer often not |
| [23:22:52] | xand: | not sure why they pick different ones. |
| [23:23:08] | justinh: | this always sounds downright 'ist' when I say this, but wtf we need AD tracks in telly for is beyond me |
| [23:23:17] | xand: | :) |
| [23:23:30] | xand: | I'm currently trying mythtranscode |
| [23:23:39] | xand: | I need to save a bit of space too :| |
| [23:23:51] | justinh: | muh, it's so people who can't read subtitles can still 'watch' telly... hmmmm |
| [23:24:20] | justinh: | too crass to just say er.. learn to read, innit |
| [23:24:40] | xand: | er, if they can read, why would they need subtitles? |
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| [23:24:59] | justinh: | then again, maybe if I closed my eyes I'd enjoy more telly |
| [23:26:06] | justinh: | ok then. trying this k9copy effort again |
| [23:26:16] | xand: | mythtranscode seems to have done a good job :) |
| [23:26:43] | xand: | reduced file size from 3.5 to 2.5GB, quality is good, and I can see the correct timestamp stuff |
| [23:26:55] | justinh: | yeah it throws away the junk |
| [23:27:26] | justinh: | 'lossless' mostly gets shot of the AD stream, subtitles & any other junk packets |
| [23:27:43] | justinh: | one day we might be able to do that during recording itself :) |
| [23:29:16] | xand: | hmm |
| [23:30:16] | justinh: | lol at these encoding apps where the ETA goes up rather than down |
| [23:31:03] | avihayb: | lol |
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| [23:32:27] | justinh: | maybe I should re-frig this laptop to give more than 10GB to linux |
| [23:32:49] | justinh: | struggling to be a development platform AND be useful in other ways at the same time |
| [23:36:01] | xand: | microsoft time |
| [23:38:07] | justinh: | thing is, I need the majority of HDD space for my choons :) |
| [23:38:33] | justinh: | I don't play no steenkin emm pee fleas |
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| [23:45:25] | nordle: | wow, another myth day :) Thanks guys, see you later. |
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