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| [00:06:44] | ahave: | hello. I am trying to get mythtv setup working and have the following error when trying to EXIT the setup.. Cannot create a file /media/media1/default//.test – directory is not writable? is default//.test correct? the '//'? |
| [00:07:01] | bsdfox: | yeah that's fine |
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| [00:07:13] | bsdfox: | check your permissions on that directory |
| [00:07:20] | bsdfox: | ls -lad /media/media1/default |
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| [00:07:32] | bsdfox: | you probably don't want it mounted under /media as I believe that's for removable media |
| [00:08:08] | ahave: | media1 and media2 are internal HDs |
| [00:09:11] | ahave: | where is a normal location to mount them then? |
| [00:10:11] | andyman53: | has anyone gotten tv out working on an nvidia card? |
| [00:10:23] | andyman53: | i keep getting hsync and vsync out of range errors in the xorg log |
| [00:10:28] | clever: | andyman53: it was relatively painless for me |
| [00:10:32] | andyman53: | but its on a tv so vsync set to 60 is fine |
| [00:10:38] | clever: | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3) |
| [00:10:42] | andyman53: | and 31.5 to 70 is fine |
| [00:10:56] | ahave: | bsdfox: http://rafb.net/p/yy9oBV36.html do these permissions look correct? |
| [00:11:07] | andyman53: | for hsync |
| [00:11:15] | andyman53: | i don't understand what the prob is |
| [00:12:30] | bsdfox: | ahave: no |
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| [00:12:32] | anenigma: | ahave: looks not-right to me. who is the user running mythtv-setup/mythbackend? just aaron? |
| [00:12:46] | bsdfox: | chown -R mythtv:mythtv /media/media1/default |
| [00:12:57] | bsdfox: | assuming mythtv is the user/group you want to use |
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| [00:14:33] | ahave: | bsdfox: ok. dont see why any other users would need to, right? |
| [00:14:45] | bsdfox: | ahave: right |
| [00:15:10] | ahave: | anything else i need to do... i still get the error |
| [00:16:05] | ahave: | and you are sure that default//.test is correct? |
| [00:16:22] | ahave: | i dont understand what //.test implies |
| [00:17:04] | bsdfox: | they're trying to create that directory |
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| [00:17:11] | bsdfox: | as a test to make sure permissions are right |
| [00:17:28] | ahave: | right, i understand why. but why '//' |
| [00:17:43] | clever: | probly because you shouldnt have a / at the end of the path |
| [00:17:55] | clever: | /media/media1/default/ and then /.test |
| [00:17:57] | ahave: | clever: right |
| [00:18:05] | ahave: | oh |
| [00:18:08] | bsdfox: | / works fine |
| [00:18:09] | clever: | when merging the 2 strings you wind up with // |
| [00:18:11] | bsdfox: | it doesn't change anyhting |
| [00:18:17] | bsdfox: | err // |
| [00:18:25] | clever: | it doesnt break it, but that explains WHY its doing double |
| [00:18:33] | ahave: | so the name of the directory would be '/.test' |
| [00:19:10] | clever: | a file called .test in whatever directory you gave |
| [00:19:41] | ahave: | i gave '...default/' |
| [00:20:04] | clever: | so it took ...default/ and added /.test which resulted in ...default//.test |
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| [00:20:37] | ahave: | ok, i understand thanks. |
| [00:21:03] | ahave: | still leaves me with the issue of the mythtv unable to create '/.test' in my folder |
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| [00:21:49] | bsdfox: | ahave: are you trying to run this as mythtv user? |
| [00:21:51] | clever: | 15 21:12:46 < bsdfox> chown -R mythtv:mythtv /media/media1/default |
| [00:21:56] | clever: | 15 21:12:57 < bsdfox> assuming mythtv is the user/group you want to use |
| [00:22:03] | ahave: | yes yes i have done that |
| [00:22:17] | bsdfox: | and you're running the program as user mythtv? |
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| [00:22:34] | ahave: | how can i tell? |
| [00:22:42] | bsdfox: | what's your username |
| [00:22:47] | ahave: | aaron |
| [00:23:01] | bsdfox: | chown -R aaron /media/media1/default |
| [00:23:05] | ahave: | but i believe mythtv has its own username |
| [00:23:08] | bsdfox: | try that |
| [00:23:22] | bsdfox: | or run the program as mythtv instead of aaron :P |
| [00:23:48] | ahave: | hmm |
| [00:24:45] | ahave: | http://rafb.net/p/4xUU7Q88.html |
| [00:25:00] | ahave: | i see that error also when i bootup |
| [00:25:31] | bsdfox: | ahave: you need to edit /etc/hosts |
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| [00:26:01] | ahave: | bsdfox: ok. and change what? |
| [00:26:17] | bsdfox: | add an entry with either your ip or 127.0.0.1 and MediaPC-Mythbuntu as the machine name |
| [00:26:26] | bsdfox: | so like: 192.168.0.5 MediaPC-Mythbuntu |
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| [00:26:43] | ahave: | it currently is set to 127.0.1.1 |
| [00:26:51] | bsdfox: | make sure you don't remove the 127.0.0.1 localhost entry.. you can just add MediaPC-Mythbuntu |
| [00:26:56] | bsdfox: | wow that's w weird IP |
| [00:27:07] | bsdfox: | 127.* is reserved for loopback iirc |
| [00:28:00] | ahave: | will i need to restart? |
| [00:28:09] | bsdfox: | no |
| [00:28:13] | ahave: | hmm |
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| [00:28:23] | ahave: | chown still gives me the error |
| [00:28:33] | bsdfox: | none of your questions are really mythtv related |
| [00:28:40] | bsdfox: | perhaps you could get help from #ubuntu |
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| [00:29:04] | ahave: | alright |
| [00:29:47] | ahave: | but so i know what errors to fix... the mythtv setup error for not being able to write to the director is because the current user does not have permissions for that folder? |
| [00:29:54] | ahave: | wouldnd chmod fix that? |
| [00:30:32] | bsdfox: | you can't even tell us which user you're running as |
| [00:30:44] | bsdfox: | you're trying to win olympic gold before you learn how to walk |
| [00:30:48] | directhex: | unless it's a network mount permission issue, typically chmod would fix permissions issues |
| [00:30:52] | ahave: | the terminal is aaron, mythtv should be mythtv |
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| [00:31:31] | jduggan_: | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/13/jano . . . _118695.html |
| [00:31:34] | jduggan_: | watch the video |
| [00:31:36] | jduggan_: | *gasp* |
| [00:31:37] | ahave: | i am just confused as to why this error is occuring... this was a sudden change |
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| [00:33:05] | bsdfox: | holy shit |
| [00:33:24] | my2keh: | so I'm trying to change the database server hostname in the Settings screen, but I change it from "localhost" to the IP i want it to...it always reverts back to "localhost" any ideas? |
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| [00:34:12] | bsdfox: | my2keh: you might need to change it in /etc/mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [00:34:21] | bsdfox: | or ~mythtv/.mythtv/mysql.txt |
| [00:34:31] | my2keh: | ahh yeah, that did it |
| [00:34:37] | bsdfox: | cool |
| [00:34:38] | my2keh: | forgot about that file! |
| [00:34:40] | my2keh: | thanks! |
| [00:34:50] | my2keh: | trying to get my mediamvp up and running |
| [00:35:24] | anenigma: | bsdfox: ok, it must be an ati driver problem. mplayer does the same thing, and reports its little "your system is too slow" thing |
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| [00:39:08] | anenigma: | i hate ati cards |
| [00:40:06] | anenigma: | actually, no, mplayer doesn't report the system is too slow thing if i pause my other compile |
| [00:40:16] | anenigma: | but mplayer doesn't display anything on my screen either |
| [00:41:55] | bsdfox: | anenigma: you tried it with the "ati" driver instead of fglrx? |
| [00:42:02] | bsdfox: | or "radeon" |
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| [00:48:57] | hobophobe: | If my cable provider recently rearranged all their channels do I need to run mythfilldatabase with --do-channel-updates to get the new channels and data? changing my lineup on schedulesdirect and doing a --refresh-all didn't seem to help |
| [00:49:48] | anenigma: | bsdfox: trying that now |
| [00:51:23] | ahave: | ok. i have my permissions for the folder set correctly now... is it necessary to setup an ACL so that the .mpg files will have permissions? |
| [00:51:53] | andyman53: | guys one question |
| [00:51:56] | andyman53: | is this true? |
| [00:51:57] | andyman53: | x11vnc -display :0 -auth /var/gdm/:0.Xauth |
| [00:51:59] | andyman53: | whoops |
| [00:52:06] | ahave: | i did not have to do such a thing previously with mythyv |
| [00:52:35] | andyman53: | modelines are ignored by nvidia drivers when using the tv out ability of these hchipsets. instead they us an internal and unmodifiable list of valid modes |
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| [00:53:52] | directhex: | ahave, ACLs are a construct only used by select filesystems, and never deployed by default |
| [00:54:00] | nordle: | Hello, my eyes hurt, its too late for this :) Moved house/flat, different transmitter. Used scan and got a channels.conf, run mythtv-setup and imported the new channels.conf having already deleted old channels. Ran mythfilldatabase. Gone to watch live tv and it wont lock on to any channel. Have I missed something? |
| [00:54:08] | directhex: | unix permissions are enough for most people |
| [00:54:17] | directhex: | nordle, dvb? |
| [00:54:24] | nordle: | dvb-t |
| [00:54:31] | directhex: | don't use channels.conf. |
| [00:54:35] | nordle: | doh |
| [00:54:38] | directhex: | doesn't contain all the data needed for dvb |
| [00:54:42] | ahave: | directhex: hmm, any ideas on why mythtv is kicking up a permissions error when mythtv trys to go to livetv |
| [00:54:43] | directhex: | especially in the uk |
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| [00:54:53] | directhex: | ahave, what's your recordings dir? |
| [00:55:22] | nordle: | directhex: The way forward to do a "full scan" from within mythtv-setup then? |
| [00:55:33] | directhex: | nordle, yes |
| [00:55:45] | ahave: | it is /media/media1/default |
| [00:56:11] | nordle: | cool... I thought something had gone very wrong, its been 24 months since I last did this :) |
| [00:56:51] | directhex: | ahave, and what does "ls -ld /media/media1/default" say? |
| [00:57:34] | andyman53: | how do i know if my card is outputting on tv out when starting x? |
| [00:57:37] | ahave: | drwxr-xr-x 3 aaron mythtv .... |
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| [00:58:37] | hobophobe: | --do-channel-updates worked like a charm, thanks |
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| [00:58:59] | directhex: | ahave, "ps -ef | grep mythbackend" ? |
| [01:00:05] | anenigma: | ok. avoided my issue by using the free radeon driver as opposed to the fglrx. I now see video, but the mythtv interface is very slow. direct rendering is disabled because render acceleration is disabled on 9500/9700 and newer. i have a 9600 so radeonhd is out of the question |
| [01:00:05] | stuporglue: | Is there a way to use Mythfrontend features when the backend isn't available, eg. Mythbrowser, Mythweather — or do they depend on the backend too? |
| [01:00:09] | iamlindoro: | !trout wire-conduits |
| [01:00:09] | ** MythLogBot slaps wire-conduits with a trout on behalf of iamlindoro... ** | |
| [01:00:29] | ahave: | directhex: http://rafb.net/p/PekE1121.html |
| [01:00:46] | nordle: | I've not seen these errors before after running mythfilldatabse: http://pastebin.ca/1173685 |
| [01:01:17] | directhex: | ahave, can you spot the obvious problem yet, or do i need to carry on? |
| [01:01:37] | ahave: | directhex: no, sorry. please catrry on |
| [01:01:40] | ahave: | carry* |
| [01:01:59] | directhex: | ahave, the mythbackend daemon is running as the "mythtv" user. only the "aaron" user has write permission to that folder. |
| [01:02:36] | ahave: | mah. i thought i set permisson for mythtv to be able to write on that folder |
| [01:03:18] | directhex: | really? the group permissions look like "r-x" from here |
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| [01:04:45] | ahave: | the last 3 characters represent the group permissions? |
| [01:06:17] | directhex: | the middle three |
| [01:06:24] | clever: | user group other |
| [01:06:48] | directhex: | the permissions are user, group, world. in this case, the "aaron" user has full permissions, the "mythtv" group has read/execute, and the world has read/execute |
| [01:06:49] | clever: | thats weird |
| [01:06:55] | clever: | 500:500 owns / |
| [01:07:01] | clever: | yet dont exist |
| [01:07:10] | clever: | shouldnt that be 0:0? |
| [01:07:13] | clever: | (root:root) |
| [01:07:22] | directhex: | clever, it is for me. |
| [01:07:29] | directhex: | drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 4096 2008-08–15 06:55 / |
| [01:07:41] | clever: | Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) |
| [01:07:43] | clever: | fixed |
| [01:08:16] | clever: | (i perfer stat when actualy trying to get perms) |
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| [01:12:06] | ahave: | directhex: please excuse my inexperience, but would chmod g+w /media/media1/default set my permissions correctly? |
| [01:16:23] | ahave: | directhex: yay. it worked. thanks so much! |
| [01:16:29] | ahave: | small steps.. |
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| [01:48:21] | iamlindoro: | Remind me never to recable again after this |
| [01:49:13] | mzb_d800: | clever: fixed your IR transmitter? |
| [01:49:25] | clever: | mzb_d800: nope |
| [01:49:49] | clever: | mzb_d800: i moved it to the ubuntu 7.10 system and used m-a to install lirc(alot more painless) but it still gives a dim light and no change |
| [01:50:09] | mzb_d800: | planning to, or thinking of USB solution? |
| [01:50:21] | clever: | but my channel change script problems went away when i moved the card to another box |
| [01:50:30] | clever: | usb or fix the blaster |
| [01:50:52] | clever: | might not have used the proper diode |
| [01:51:01] | clever: | we just grabed one from a pile of random parts we have in a box |
| [01:51:20] | clever: | and i suspect the diode is overheating, it melted the heat shrink tubing onto itself |
| [01:51:37] | mzb_d800: | hmm ... sounds like you didn't current limit it properly ... but there are notes on lirc about the problems with that simple circuit |
| [01:51:53] | mzb_d800: | transistor-switched is the best way |
| [01:52:03] | clever: | the led is very dim and the beam seems to be narrow |
| [01:53:03] | clever: | if im not pointing directly into it(with the cam) i cant see anything |
| [01:53:03] | clever: | but the proper remote has a PAIR of ir led's that are blindingly bright to the camera |
| [01:53:04] | mzb_d800: | yep ... prob current+heat damage |
| [01:57:20] | anenigma: | ok, close enough. UI is a tiny bit laggy, i'm blaming that on my diskless setup though |
| [01:59:13] | clever: | anenigma: i have an entire gnome setup running diskless and it runs with pretty much no lag at all |
| [01:59:33] | clever: | but thats over 100mbit |
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| [01:59:42] | clever: | ive ran it at 10mbit before and its horid |
| [02:00:07] | anenigma: | yeah this is over 100mbit |
| [02:00:21] | anenigma: | and 0.1ms pings to the nfs server |
| [02:00:30] | anenigma: | but i've fought with this ati card for 2 days now |
| [02:00:32] | anenigma: | and i give up |
| [02:00:39] | ** iamlindoro looks in his new backend case and sees... 19 drive bays ** | |
| [02:01:12] | anenigma: | i'm up to 1.5tb on my backend store. keeps roughly a month's worth of recorded tv, which is plenty for me |
| [02:02:10] | clever: | im up to 536gig and i have months of stuff |
| [02:03:05] | iamlindoro: | 9 TB :) |
| [02:03:21] | iamlindoro: | Not filled mind you, but good to know it's there I guess |
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| [02:10:52] | babyhuey: | quick question: how beefy does my front end have to be? can i just use an embedded system? one im looking at is like 600 mhz 128 mb of ram |
| [02:11:12] | iamlindoro: | babyhuey: At best you might manage to get something like that to play SD... but even that will be a bit of tweaking |
| [02:11:25] | babyhuey: | i dont have any hd stuff at all |
| [02:11:29] | babyhuey: | so sd is fine |
| [02:12:01] | iamlindoro: | OK, so assuming x86, that might be possible... but still a bit of a longshot |
| [02:12:18] | babyhuey: | http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/beagleboard-149-linux-system |
| [02:12:22] | babyhuey: | that is the board i was looking at |
| [02:12:26] | mzb_d800: | babyhuey: if you want mpeg2 you probably want p3–866 (min) with an nVidia card for XVMC |
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| [02:13:12] | iamlindoro: | I wouldn't expect that board to be able to manage-- myth is more or less completely unoptimized for ARM |
| [02:13:25] | babyhuey: | mmk |
| [02:13:52] | babyhuey: | i was just looking for something small form factor i can put next to my tv and wont look like an eyesore |
| [02:14:19] | iamlindoro: | mac mini, dell studio hybrid, anything more or less like that will be fantastic |
| [02:15:16] | babyhuey: | ill have to look around, those are a little out of my pricerange |
| [02:15:22] | babyhuey: | but thanks for the tips on where to look :D |
| [02:15:37] | iamlindoro: | You can probably build a bit cheaper-- I would just avoid the embedded stuff |
| [02:15:59] | iamlindoro: | I have heard that the core 2 mobile stuff performs great in SFF mythboxes |
| [02:16:16] | babyhuey: | alright, ill try to look for some small form factor stuff to build |
| [02:16:41] | cesman: | that they do! |
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| [02:17:31] | iamlindoro: | hey there cesman |
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| [02:17:45] | iamlindoro: | Just got my new Lian Li hide-in-the-closet backend case... it's amazing |
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| [02:18:05] | iamlindoro: | 19 drive bays, barely anything to unscrew to get at them |
| [02:18:21] | iamlindoro: | Step two is finsing a power supply to run all these drives (D'oh!) |
| [02:18:30] | iamlindoro: | er finding |
| [02:18:31] | Dagmar: | Hmm... 19x25w |
| [02:18:45] | Dagmar: | 475W plus machine overhead... |
| [02:18:48] | Dagmar: | Not too horrible |
| [02:19:08] | iamlindoro: | And I don't have half that number (but I'm awful close) |
| [02:19:12] | Dagmar: | I would have serious concerns about airflow tho. hehe |
| [02:19:23] | Dagmar: | 19x25w == OMGHEAT |
| [02:19:34] | cesman: | hello iamlindoro |
| [02:19:48] | iamlindoro: | That's the other somewhat amazing thing about it-- great clearance between drives, and dedicated blowers from the front to the back of the case, in its own air channel, to properly ventilate |
| [02:19:59] | Dagmar: | SWEET. |
| [02:20:00] | anenigma: | clever: is your diskless setup just / shared over nfs, or do you load an image into a ramdisk? |
| [02:21:26] | iamlindoro: | Dagmar: I'm gonna need a new power supply, though, this one just hasn't got near enough SATA power |
| [02:21:35] | Dagmar: | ooff yeah |
| [02:21:45] | Dagmar: | You would be shopping for a modular one then. heh |
| [02:22:11] | iamlindoro: | I'm sure there's some fantastic reason SATA needed its own power connection, but I'm irritated nonetheless |
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| [02:22:24] | iamlindoro: | that is to say, one different from the old 4 pins |
| [02:22:38] | Dagmar: | Probably because of the way they plug in |
| [02:22:58] | Dagmar: | Molex connectors can be tetchy to fit by sight, and you may have noticed those crude pins tend to get STUCK |
| [02:23:08] | Dagmar: | Those little black plastic things are a lot less trouble |
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| [02:23:22] | Dagmar: | We would have probably ditched molex a long time ago if everyone wasn't already using them |
| [02:23:50] | iamlindoro: | you're probably right |
| [02:24:52] | Dagmar: | ...and you can be sure you will never plug a sata power connector in backwards, nor will even the biggest idiot in the office |
| [02:25:04] | Dagmar: | I've seen people manage to force molex connectors in backwards |
| [02:26:46] | mzb_d800: | yay! finally ... the missing episode of Star Wars ;)) |
| [02:26:55] | mzb_d800: | (deprived childhood;) |
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| [02:28:34] | iamlindoro: | jeeze, this thing even has a blower to cool the PCI cards |
| [02:28:51] | iamlindoro: | It looks like a black clone of the Mac Pro, only more expansion options |
| [02:32:04] | kormoc: | the christmas special? |
| [02:32:29] | clever: | anenigma: mounted over nfs |
| [02:32:43] | clever: | anenigma: nowhere near enough ram for the 8gig of / |
| [02:32:47] | clever: | (i installed call of duty thru wine) |
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| [02:34:36] | anenigma: | clever: aah. same here. oh well, it works. |
| [02:41:12] | clever: | actualy it doesnt:P |
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| [02:41:18] | clever: | 'stale nfs handle' durring bootup |
| [02:41:24] | clever: | no idea where it came from |
| [02:41:44] | clever: | ive reloaded the nfs server, i'll go check on it again |
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| [02:47:52] | clever: | fixed now |
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| [02:49:02] | anenigma: | slightly related question, is there a working google movies scraper for mythmovies? |
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| [02:49:11] | anenigma: | i found one from june 08 but it seems out of date |
| [02:49:21] | badkitt1: | Can someone please suggest a remote control for myth :-) |
| [02:49:55] | mzb_d800: | clever: tried hard mounts? |
| [02:50:08] | clever: | mzb_d800: hard mounts? |
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| [02:51:01] | mzb_d800: | ro,vers=3,rsize=131072,wsize=131072,hard,nointr,proto=tcp |
| [02:51:05] | mzb_d800: | (for eg) |
| [02:51:20] | anenigma: | what does hard mounts do, out of curiosity? |
| [02:51:24] | ** anenigma googles ** | |
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| [02:52:15] | clever: | mzb_d800: to change the nfs mount params, id have to edit the initrd scripts and rebuild the initrd |
| [02:54:22] | mzb_d800: | http://www.linux.org.au/2008/programme/detail%3FTalkID=130.html |
| [02:54:49] | mzb_d800: | then see session 3 on friday here: http://www.linux.org.au/2008/programme/presentations.html |
| [02:55:02] | mzb_d800: | for recordings and slides |
| [02:56:10] | clever: | 192.168.1.60:/media/mainlv/nfsroot / nfs rw,vers=3,rsize=65536,wsize=65536,hard,nolock,proto=tcp,timeo=7,retrans=10,sec=s ys,addr=192.168.1.60 0 0 |
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| [02:56:28] | clever: | mzb_d800: it appears im allready mounting it hard |
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| [04:19:14] | iamlindoro: | Quiet night |
| [04:24:24] | ** tjcarter bangs on pots and pans for iamlindoro ** | |
| [04:24:27] | tjcarter: | better? |
| [04:24:37] | cesman: | lol |
| [04:25:03] | iamlindoro: | \o/ |
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| [04:28:02] | ** tjcarter has been contemplating getting himself a dish ** | |
| [04:28:44] | tjcarter: | problem is that I presently live in an apartment and while I can have one here, I may not be able to the next place I live. |
| [04:29:52] | iamlindoro: | I hate rebuilds, I'm chronically out of SOMETHING |
| [04:30:14] | iamlindoro: | Right now I need two more SATA ports and one more SATA cable, and it's too late to get either |
| [04:31:39] | ** cesman knows that feeling... ** | |
| [04:31:54] | cesman: | tjcarter: I've been thinking of it myself... |
| [04:32:14] | iamlindoro: | I'd get FIOS if it was in my area, would love to get something approaching acceptable bitrates |
| [04:32:16] | cesman: | damn cable bill is getting higher and higher |
| [04:32:39] | ** cesman is currently on cable modem ** | |
| [04:32:46] | tjcarter: | yeah, and the service is looking more and more pathetic next to anything you'd get with a dish |
| [04:33:01] | cesman: | tjcarter: not to mention far more HD channels... |
| [04:33:22] | iamlindoro: | cesman: I meant acceptable video bitrate :) |
| [04:33:33] | cesman: | ahhh |
| [04:34:29] | tjcarter: | cesman: at present, I get all my HD channels in SD =( |
| [04:35:08] | tjcarter: | cesman: there's no current way to share a cable box for firewire and s-video "properly" |
| [04:35:26] | tjcarter: | especially not if your lineup changes often |
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| [04:38:25] | iamlindoro: | wagnerrp: Heh, what was? |
| [04:39:21] | wagnerrp: | i mistakenly though the #mythtv was #mythtv-users |
| [04:39:36] | iamlindoro: | ahh, hehe, I see |
| [04:39:42] | iamlindoro: | thought I misdirected him out? :) |
| [04:39:42] | wagnerrp: | so i thought you didnt want to give advice, and just told someone this was the dev channel |
| [04:39:55] | iamlindoro: | hahaha, no, but I'll definitely keep it in mind ;) |
| [04:40:11] | iamlindoro: | I actually answered his question when he got here :) |
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| [04:49:43] | sphery: | babyhuey: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/344885#344885 (whole thread). |
| [04:51:37] | sphery: | babyhuey: IMHO, though, the best for "not an eyesore" is putting the frontend in some room other than the viewing room. I have the biggest, loudest, ugliest frontend in the world, but because it's not in the viewing room, it's not a problem. And, I don't have to settle for a second-rate system to make it fit small form-factor. |
| [04:52:18] | iamlindoro: | Which I spent all day today doing, BTW ;) |
| [04:52:37] | iamlindoro: | Now I have more drives than SATA ports and a half-finished wiring job |
| [04:53:06] | sphery: | :) |
| [04:53:24] | iamlindoro: | Good thing there's no TV on tonight |
| [04:53:31] | iamlindoro: | or... well.. really any night right now |
| [04:53:37] | sphery: | More than anything, I'm too cheap to pay for SFF, and I already owned a drill, so making a hole in the wall didn't cost anything. |
| [04:54:08] | wagnerrp: | apparently you have no wife (or a very understanding one) |
| [04:54:23] | iamlindoro: | Which, him or me? |
| [04:54:37] | wagnerrp: | sphery, drilling holes in walls and all |
| [04:54:41] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [04:54:45] | sphery: | But, I love the fact that I have an Athlon X2 6000+ for a frontend. It does HDTV with timestretch very nicely (better than my network does). |
| [04:55:12] | iamlindoro: | sphery: You should get a load of my new case-- 19 Drive slots :) |
| [04:55:16] | sphery: | wagnerrp: no wife, but I'm also good at patching holes in the wall. |
| [04:56:02] | sphery: | iamlindoro: nice. I hope it has an air conditioning unit, too, considering how much heat those 750GB+ HDD's put out. |
| [04:56:30] | iamlindoro: | sphery: It's got the drives in a seperate zone/channel in the case, and blowers front and back to pull air over them exclusively-- pretty nice touch |
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| [04:57:30] | sphery: | Definitely. I actually burned my fingers on my 750GB drives, so I couldn't imagine getting more than a few together in a case. With that kind of design, it could work, though. |
| [04:57:41] | wagnerrp: | oddly, thats exactly the number of slots i have (if you consider the 3-in-2 hotswap bays i have) |
| [04:58:01] | wagnerrp: | although i wouldnt dream of putting that monstrosity in view of public |
| [04:58:09] | iamlindoro: | It better have that touch since the case is going in a closet :) |
| [04:58:20] | iamlindoro: | and it'll need all the help it can get in there |
| [04:58:47] | sphery: | Yeah. People will ask why you have 3 A/C ducts in the closet and only one in the rest of the house... |
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| [04:59:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery: I have 6 500's in hotswap racks, they have big 120mm fans cooling them, so the drives are hardly warm. ;-) |
| [05:00:19] | wagnerrp: | i have a bunch of 750s in hotswap racks with an 80mm fan each |
| [05:00:26] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: I've got the 5-in-3 hotswap bays... ;-) 2 of them. ;-) |
| [05:00:28] | wagnerrp: | theyre usually about 20F above room temperature |
| [05:00:50] | wagnerrp: | my case has dividers between every two 5.25" bays |
| [05:00:56] | wagnerrp: | so i cant use those larger ones |
| [05:00:57] | sphery: | Yeah, I should probably get more fans for mine, but Google Labs says that heat didn't seem to affect lifetime, so my cheap side has been winning out. |
| [05:01:18] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: so did mine, but I bent them out of the way. ;-) |
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| [05:07:54] | J-e-f-f-A: | my case is a monster – the RocketFish Full tower... There's some pics in this thread... http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=550341 |
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| [05:09:57] | wagnerrp: | thats tiny |
| [05:10:27] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, right... like 24x24x8.5... ;-) |
| [05:10:43] | wagnerrp: | http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16811182551 |
| [05:12:46] | mzb_d800: | well that's never going to happen again ;) |
| [05:12:56] | mzb_d800: | had the power meter replaced yesterday |
| [05:13:02] | mzb_d800: | and the STB reset |
| [05:13:04] | mzb_d800: | grr |
| [05:13:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | wagnerrp: looks like it's about the same height, but 6" or so wider.... |
| [05:13:11] | mzb_d800: | forget the pin code |
| [05:13:20] | mzb_d800: | + don't have the remote |
| [05:14:04] | mzb_d800: | so figured that out ... and now I've written a script to search for all channels and then delete the HD ones (SD box) |
| [05:14:07] | mzb_d800: | hah! |
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| [05:42:51] | badkitt1: | Say I have installed lirc and I know it is receiving commands from my remote, but from here how do I get it to work with mythtv? |
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| [06:55:18] | craftyguy: | I'm getting a bunch of errors like this in my mythbackend.log file. Both the backend and frontend are on the same system, my storage directory is a valid directory (and mythtv user has rw permissions), mythbackend successfully connects to mythconverg. Anything else that might cause this: ERROR when trying to delete file: /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/ |
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| [07:19:37] | strex: | sup folks |
| [07:20:34] | AndyCap: | mythtv on the slashdot frontpage. |
| [07:20:58] | strex: | nice, its about time |
| [07:21:16] | wagnerrp: | its been on there several times |
| [07:21:23] | wagnerrp: | usually when a new version gets released |
| [07:21:34] | AndyCap: | meh, seems it's mostly about not using the frontend |
| [07:21:39] | wagnerrp: | this one is rather arbitrary |
| [07:21:40] | AndyCap: | http://www.linux.com/feature/144179 |
| [07:21:48] | strex: | shows how much i check slash. |
| [07:21:48] | wagnerrp: | slow news day i guess |
| [07:22:03] | purserj: | wagnerrp: every day on / is a slow news day, or a dupe day |
| [07:22:15] | strex: | lol |
| [07:24:36] | strex: | for anyone who cares, the mythtv remote for the DS works like a charm! |
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| [07:28:19] | craftyguy: | Other than a bad coax signal, what else can cause these errors while watching livetv: [mpeg2video @ 0x7f149b012e30]ac-tex damaged at 73 43 |
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| [07:28:59] | wagnerrp: | this is... digital cable? |
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| [07:29:04] | craftyguy: | I've tested the system at 2 other locations, and experience horrible stuttering and blocky video |
| [07:29:15] | craftyguy: | yes it is, QAM |
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| [07:30:41] | craftyguy: | I have a DVico Fusion 5-lite card that has been working flawless for the past 2 years, could this be the issue? |
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| [07:31:46] | craftyguy: | Within the span of ~3 days, livetv quality has gone from OK to unwatchable, with no changes to the system (wasn't even rebooted or anything) |
| [07:32:06] | craftyguy: | Though a reboot didn't make anything better :P |
| [07:33:32] | Gumby: | can anyone suggest why my audio might stutter a bit at fairly regular intervals when watch HD yet video is fine. Could it be a cpu issue? Running an intel E2180 o/c to 3GHz |
| [07:34:21] | Gumby: | each cpu core is only at ~70% when its stuttering |
| [07:36:50] | craftyguy: | That still seems a bit high, when my system was working properly, it averaged ~40% across only 2 cores for 720p/1080i livetv |
| [07:38:21] | Gumby: | which cpu? |
| [07:38:56] | craftyguy: | it's actually an intel Q6850 underclocked to 2.6 |
| [07:39:16] | Gumby: | thats a fair bit more processing power than a e2180 even at 2.6 |
| [07:39:41] | wagnerrp: | theres no reason why any video you might have would need that kind of power |
| [07:40:17] | wagnerrp: | mpeg2 is (currently) only single threaded |
| [07:40:54] | craftyguy: | well i also use the system for distcc |
| [07:41:07] | wagnerrp: | so even if you have some screwed up scheduling, and the process is bouncing back and forth between your cores, youre not going to get more than 25% per core (or one full core total) |
| [07:41:38] | wagnerrp: | even still, you dont need that much, because my old 2.2GHz single core A64 handles 720p without a problem |
| [07:42:07] | craftyguy: | wagnerrp, still doesnt explain the problem I have with livetv ;) |
| [07:42:53] | wagnerrp: | no, but means neither of you should experience lack of power with your systems |
| [07:42:53] | Gumby: | ditto. lol. |
| [07:43:51] | craftyguy: | lol, agreed. cpu isn't an issue for me, something else is (besides weak signal from coax, since it didn't work in 2 different locations) |
| [07:44:01] | wagnerrp: | also, ive heard mixed information |
| [07:44:09] | wagnerrp: | is an E2xxx a P4, or a Core2? |
| [07:44:20] | craftyguy: | core2 |
| [07:44:35] | wagnerrp: | so whats the difference between the 2x and 4x series |
| [07:44:44] | wagnerrp: | the 4x series is reduced cache and FSB as well |
| [07:45:06] | Gumby: | the even more odd thing is that when I am watching a HD channel it happens every now and then but when watching a commercial on the same channel and the commercial is normally SD (its 4:3 with black bars on each side) it stutters 100% of the time |
| [07:45:31] | wagnerrp: | what resolution are you running your TV at? what video card? |
| [07:46:00] | Gumby: | my issue is only with audio |
| [07:46:45] | craftyguy: | I'm on 1080P/hdmi from nvidia 7150 (no xvmc) |
| [07:47:01] | Gumby: | 720p here, same gpu |
| [07:47:18] | craftyguy: | have yall heard of the tuner itself being the cause of stuttering? |
| [07:48:07] | Goga777: | did someone know about ASUS Xonar HDAV1.3 – The Essential Home Theater PC Card with h264 decoder ? |
| [07:48:14] | Goga777: | http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=11638 |
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| [08:01:47] | rimbob: | craftyguy: what disks |
| [08:01:57] | rimbob: | sata scsi pata what |
| [08:02:07] | craftyguy: | sata, raid0 with XFS |
| [08:02:13] | craftyguy: | oops, raid1 |
| [08:02:17] | craftyguy: | mirrored |
| [08:02:31] | rimbob: | why would you raid1 your recordings |
| [08:02:36] | ** rimbob shakes head ** | |
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| [08:02:49] | craftyguy: | because i store other video on the same drive? |
| [08:02:53] | rimbob: | you're probably soaking up the bus bandwidth with that 1080p video of yours |
| [08:03:11] | rimbob: | reading and writing at the same time |
| [08:03:22] | rimbob: | and mirroring |
| [08:03:57] | rimbob: | is it software RAID |
| [08:04:01] | craftyguy: | yea, good point. the setup has been working for quite some time though, why would it be a problem now? |
| [08:04:01] | wagnerrp: | doubtful |
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| [08:04:15] | rimbob: | craftyguy: what have you change recently |
| [08:04:24] | craftyguy: | nothing, that's the thing.. |
| [08:04:34] | wagnerrp: | four of those five streams are going to be at most 19Mbit |
| [08:04:36] | rimbob: | defrag your XFS volume |
| [08:04:51] | wagnerrp: | so, <10MB/s |
| [08:04:55] | craftyguy: | rimbob, when tuning a channel, it usually shows ~85–90% |
| [08:05:13] | wagnerrp: | plus an unknown large volume of video across an absurdly large PCIe bus |
| [08:05:15] | craftyguy: | rimbob, there's a cron job that defrags it twice a day |
| [08:06:51] | rimbob: | oh wait |
| [08:06:56] | rimbob: | what tuner card are you using |
| [08:07:12] | craftyguy: | i'm using a dvico fusion 5 lite |
| [08:07:23] | craftyguy: | been using it without any problems for almost 2 years |
| [08:07:42] | rimbob: | i'm willing to bet that it's your tuner causing the stutters |
| [08:08:03] | rimbob: | it might be a bad feed, deformed MPEG or something |
| [08:08:05] | craftyguy: | was on 2.6.24 kernel for a while, when i started having problems i updated to 2.6.26, but no luck correcting it |
| [08:08:19] | wagnerrp: | as you said, the video does not function on other machines as well |
| [08:08:33] | wagnerrp: | the only thing that would cause that is bad tuner, or faulty driver |
| [08:08:48] | craftyguy: | rimbob, i think i've ruled out 'bad feed', i get the same thing at the gf's house, where i know her QAM signal is fine |
| [08:08:59] | rimbob: | tuner then |
| [08:09:02] | craftyguy: | only thing left i can think of is the tuner |
| [08:09:15] | craftyguy: | but i wanted to check here to make sure I didnt miss anything |
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| [08:10:15] | craftyguy: | btw, I noticed they stopped making the fusion5 lite a while ago, there any decent QAM256 cards out there (low profile)? |
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| [08:10:51] | craftyguy: | the fusion5 is well-supported in the vanilla kernel |
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| [08:12:17] | abarber: | what is the easiest way to test to see if your capture card is receiving a signal? |
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| [08:13:09] | craftyguy: | abarber, 'femon -H' will show signal strength and if there is a lock on whatever freq it was last tuned to |
| [08:18:33] | abarber: | i have a cable connecting my dish receiver to my tuner card |
| [08:18:44] | abarber: | and i just scanned for channels in input connections |
| [08:18:50] | abarber: | and it got no signal |
| [08:19:05] | abarber: | i had heard the pvr-150 was very easy to setup |
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| [08:21:15] | wagnerrp: | the pvr-150 is relatively easy to set up, but you did something wrong |
| [08:21:23] | wagnerrp: | you have satellite TV? |
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| [08:21:43] | wagnerrp: | satellite TV does not receive an analog signal |
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| [08:21:57] | abarber: | so it won't work? |
| [08:21:58] | wagnerrp: | so you cant just plug the coax into an analog tuner and hope for the best |
| [08:22:23] | abarber: | what have the people done who have used myth with dish? |
| [08:22:25] | wagnerrp: | you need to plug the video capture ports on the 150 into your satellite STB |
| [08:22:42] | wagnerrp: | and then set up the IR blaster to change the channels through the STB |
| [08:22:47] | abarber: | right |
| [08:22:55] | abarber: | i have it connected to the STB |
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| [08:23:29] | wagnerrp: | well then were you expecting to scan for channels using the onboard tuner? |
| [08:23:53] | abarber: | i thought it could scan from the coax =) |
| [08:24:04] | abarber: | so i need to configure the blaster first? |
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| [08:24:41] | wagnerrp: | well if the STB does have a coax out, at most it will output on channel 3 (or 4) |
| [08:24:52] | abarber: | i also thought i could at least watch the one channel it was set at |
| [08:24:54] | wagnerrp: | but all video must be routed through the STB |
| [08:24:58] | abarber: | a glimmer of hope |
| [08:25:18] | wagnerrp: | but youll get better quality through the svideo capture on the 150 |
| [08:25:35] | abarber: | i may switch in the future |
| [08:25:53] | abarber: | so with the coax, can i test in mplayer the signal i may or may not be getting? |
| [08:26:01] | abarber: | i had heard that i could |
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| [08:26:42] | wagnerrp: | well the simplist would just be to tune it using the command line functions |
| [08:26:47] | wagnerrp: | and then cat the dev node to a file |
| [08:27:16] | abarber: | what is the command line function? |
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| [08:27:27] | fryfrog: | wagnerrp: what are you even hoping to achieve? |
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| [08:27:43] | fryfrog: | abarber: you'll need some method of changing your sat box's channels, eitehr serial or ir blaster are common |
| [08:27:54] | abarber: | i have an ir blaster |
| [08:28:05] | fryfrog: | then, in myth you bind a channel listing to the svideo or rca inputs (depending on which you use, svideo is higher quality) |
| [08:28:06] | wagnerrp: | fryfrog: the 150 has an ir blaster integrated |
| [08:28:27] | fryfrog: | and you then setup an external channel changing script and point that setting at it |
| [08:28:56] | fryfrog: | so how is your sat plugged into the pvr 150? |
| [08:29:08] | abarber: | TV in (coax) |
| [08:29:22] | fryfrog: | so if for some reason you are forced to use that crappy method |
| [08:29:35] | fryfrog: | you'd set mythtv to "tune" to channel 3 (or 4, what ever your sat is set to) |
| [08:29:38] | fryfrog: | and go from there |
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| [08:29:49] | fryfrog: | but if you can, svideo + rca for audio will be much better quality |
| [08:30:01] | abarber: | okay, i will do that asap |
| [08:30:08] | abarber: | i just wanted to get it wo work tonight |
| [08:30:13] | abarber: | because i have had this for months |
| [08:30:13] | fryfrog: | ah |
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| [08:30:36] | fryfrog: | sure, when you go from RF -> Svideo, you'd just change the channel line up binding to the right device |
| [08:30:52] | abarber: | where do i tune to channel 3? |
| [08:31:24] | fryfrog: | some where in mythtv-setup related to the channel line ups, been a while since i've looked there |
| [08:31:45] | fryfrog: | probably one of the final steps, when you bind the channel line up to a tuner / input |
| [08:31:55] | Dibblah: | Lovely. Slashdotted. |
| [08:32:00] | fryfrog: | you'll see stuff about "external channel change script" at the same place |
| [08:32:14] | abarber: | backend or frontend? |
| [08:32:21] | fryfrog: | it'll be something like "fix tuner to channel" or "force channel to" or something like that |
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| [08:32:41] | fryfrog: | on your be, when you run "mythtv-setup" the initial setup thinger |
| [08:32:52] | abarber: | "preset channel" |
| [08:32:57] | abarber: | i've run setup |
| [08:33:05] | fryfrog: | so re-run it |
| [08:33:05] | abarber: | i'm manually changing things |
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| [08:33:08] | fryfrog: | it isn't a one time thing |
| [08:33:20] | fryfrog: | i think there are two things taht will look similar |
| [08:33:31] | fryfrog: | i think "preset" channel is what myth fires up on, but will change |
| [08:33:55] | fryfrog: | there is another setting that means myth will *always* tune the tuner to channel 3 and use the external channel change script to change channels |
| [08:34:17] | fryfrog: | i want to say that "pre" channel is near the bottom of the page and the one i'm talking about is near the top or upper middle |
| [08:36:15] | abarber: | the preset channel is supposed to be 3 |
| [08:36:19] | abarber: | okay |
| [08:36:27] | abarber: | i think i need the channel changing script |
| [08:36:33] | fryfrog: | for sure :) |
| [08:36:38] | abarber: | i'm confused about LIRC |
| [08:36:49] | fryfrog: | if your sat box has serial, you can skip the annoying LIRC |
| [08:36:51] | abarber: | does the pvr have and onboard blaster? |
| [08:36:55] | fryfrog: | assuming someone wrote a serial |
| [08:37:05] | fryfrog: | yeah, which you access using lirc |
| [08:37:12] | abarber: | okay |
| [08:37:32] | fryfrog: | you are on your own for that, i only use lirc for receive :p |
| [08:38:12] | abarber: | i'm running mythbuntu, so i have selected pci-dish for the ir transmitter |
| [08:38:16] | abarber: | is that correct? |
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| [08:42:42] | fryfrog: | does it work? |
| [08:44:51] | craftyguy: | Anyone use one of those pcHDTV HD-5500 tuners? |
| [08:45:47] | abarber: | not yet |
| [08:45:54] | abarber: | i don't even think i'm close |
| [08:46:21] | fryfrog: | abarber: sorry, i have nfi. lirc is pretty hard, imho |
| [08:46:28] | abarber: | the schedulesdirect schedules aren't even working |
| [08:46:43] | fryfrog: | they work, you just have to do it right |
| [08:47:58] | jblack: | craftyguy: I use two of them. |
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| [08:49:07] | abarber: | do you know if anyone has experience with dish? |
| [08:49:15] | craftyguy: | jblack, how do you like them? |
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| [08:50:27] | jblack: | I love them. If I were rich, I'd buy a few hundred and give 'em away. |
| [08:50:34] | craftyguy: | lol! |
| [08:50:55] | craftyguy: | well, what other dvb cards have you owned? |
| [08:51:14] | jblack: | a small handful of wintv's and such. |
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| [08:51:39] | jblack: | I like pchdtv because they're completely open. |
| [08:51:48] | craftyguy: | hmm, I've been considering the hd-5500, since it appears that my dvico fusion5 lite has died :( |
| [08:51:49] | justinh: | ruh? |
| [08:51:58] | jblack: | They're purpose for existance is to be open. |
| [08:52:04] | justinh: | oh yeah those EVIL DVB tuners which require binary blobs of firmware :-\ |
| [08:53:27] | jblack: | Shrug. when I spend my money on something, I want to spend it on something that doesn't try to force me into the way they see things. |
| [08:54:03] | craftyguy: | justinh, hd-5500 has uses one of the 'binary blobs of firmware' you speak of? |
| [08:54:11] | jblack: | proprietary hardware are like "that's a dealer made part". |
| [08:54:32] | justinh: | craftyguy: possibly |
| [08:54:43] | jblack: | I don't know. I'm checking now |
| [08:54:53] | jblack: | If it does, it's distributed with the linux kernel |
| [08:55:09] | craftyguy: | jblack, i hear ya. seems like the card can only be purchased from the manufacturer, and a bit pricey at that considering how long it has been out |
| [08:55:28] | justinh: | plenty other digital tuners around |
| [08:55:29] | jblack: | Yeah. It's targetting a submarket, so that'll happen. |
| [08:56:11] | craftyguy: | justinh, not many that support qam256 (at least in my 3 days of research, but I'm open to suggestions!) |
| [08:56:50] | craftyguy: | linuxtv wiki only lists like 15 supported cards in kernel, most of which are not made anymore |
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| [08:57:33] | ** justinh might sober up soon ** | |
| [08:57:35] | jblack: | the 5500 will always work, forever. |
| [08:57:40] | craftyguy: | so either they haven't updated in a while (and thus I'm out of the loop on what's new and 'nix happy), or there really isnt that much new hw out that is supported in kernel dvb drivers |
| [08:59:29] | craftyguy: | jblack, one more question: it appears to be a low-profile card, does it come with a low-profile bracket? |
| [08:59:48] | jblack: | I can't find any firmware for the 5500, so the logic must be in silicon. |
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| [09:00:00] | jblack: | if I remember right, it's a pretty big card. |
| [09:00:26] | craftyguy: | http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_5500.html |
| [09:00:49] | craftyguy: | ah, it lists 'low profile adapter' in the features list |
| [09:00:50] | jblack: | Yeah. That's the one. |
| [09:00:51] | craftyguy: | hah |
| [09:01:11] | jblack: | Sorry. Thought you meant length |
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| [09:01:55] | craftyguy: | actually, i retract my last statement.. it says the card itself is lowprofile, but does not state whether or not it comes with a low-profile pci mounting bracket |
| [09:02:12] | craftyguy: | jblack, do you happen to remember if yours came with one? |
| [09:02:19] | justinh: | get a real case & it won't be a problem ;) |
| [09:02:36] | craftyguy: | haha, real case won't fit on my tv stand ;) |
| [09:02:50] | jblack: | The mounting brackets on mine looked like the same length as every other pci bracket I've seen. |
| [09:03:16] | jblack: | There's only one thing I didn't like about this card. |
| [09:04:00] | jblack: | You see the socket for the cable? That's a detachable adapter that goes into the silver box. You can yank that out easily. |
| [09:04:45] | craftyguy: | wow, that's lame. is there a 'male' end on the 'silver box'? |
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| [09:04:53] | jblack: | yeah. |
| [09:05:26] | jblack: | You don't have to rip your machine apart to get things back together, but if you're trying to screw in the cable, it can be a pain. |
| [09:05:28] | craftyguy: | so I could technically bypass the adapter altogether, and screw the coax directly on the 'silver box' |
| [09:05:34] | jblack: | I just pull it out, attach the cable, and push it back in. |
| [09:06:01] | craftyguy: | just feed the coax through the hole on the pci mount bracket? |
| [09:06:06] | jblack: | The adapter is a slip adapter. I don't remember if the box is threaded. I can check |
| [09:06:22] | jblack: | but effectively, it's a 1" extension cord, yeah. |
| [09:06:28] | jblack: | You need me to check? |
| [09:06:41] | craftyguy: | i've seen those types of 'quick disconnect' coax adapters before, they don't make contact very well |
| [09:06:46] | craftyguy: | sure if you don't mind :) |
| [09:06:55] | ** jblack tromps upstairs ** | |
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| [09:08:46] | jblack: | it does appear to be threaded. |
| [09:08:56] | craftyguy: | sweet! thanks for checking |
| [09:08:58] | jblack: | though recessed. |
| [09:09:27] | craftyguy: | though it looks like a coax would attach? |
| [09:10:09] | jblack: | it was hard to tell. I'm pretty sure I can see threading, but from teh angle I saw it at, it may have been a wider thread. Obviously, I didn't down a server to take the case off. |
| [09:10:51] | jblack: | I'd be surprised if the threading didn't match coax. |
| [09:10:51] | craftyguy: | right, wouldnt expect you to :P thanks for checking it out though. i think i'm going to pick up one of these cards |
| [09:11:05] | jblack: | Then it was worth going upstairs. =) |
| [09:11:12] | craftyguy: | yea wouldnt make much sense for them to use a different standard |
| [09:11:52] | craftyguy: | after searching a bit on their forums, it looks like they ship lowprofile brackets with it now, woohoo! |
| [09:12:13] | abarber: | anyone have experience with mythtv and satellite? |
| [09:12:24] | jblack: | They may have, and I didn't notice. I bought mine about 2 years ago. |
| [09:12:39] | Dagmar: | What you read on Slashdot is a lie |
| [09:12:42] | craftyguy: | alright, i'm off to bed now. thanks for your help jblack |
| [09:12:51] | jblack: | Dagmar: ? |
| [09:13:20] | Dagmar: | Just seeing this article on Slashdot about MythTV and it looks like trouble |
| [09:13:37] | abarber: | link? |
| [09:13:54] | Dagmar: | TV has ruined your mind. |
| [09:14:02] | jblack: | It's a good article abut how successful myth is getting. |
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| [09:15:26] | abarber: | would anyone be able to help me troubleshoot my pvr-150 + dish? |
| [09:15:31] | jblack: | Mostly about portability. |
| [09:17:05] | abarber: | or could you direct me to a guide |
| [09:39:25] | abarber: | is dish tv atsc or dvb? |
| [09:41:02] | Dibblah: | dvb-s, but as far as I know, it's mostly encrypted. You'll need their decoder box. |
| [09:41:13] | Dibblah: | Then analog to the PVR150. |
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| [09:51:26] | abarber: | okay |
| [09:51:41] | abarber: | i'm getting a black screen when i try to watch live tv |
| [09:51:53] | abarber: | not sure how to troubleshoot it |
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| [10:03:01] | Dibblah: | abarber: Which guide are you following? |
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| [10:49:24] | directhex: | does mythmusic not remove tracks that are no longer on disk? |
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| [10:55:51] | fryfrog: | directhex: have to rescan, afaik |
| [10:55:54] | fryfrog: | same as mythvideo |
| [10:56:19] | directhex: | rescanned a few times, keeps leaving obsolete values |
| [10:56:25] | directhex: | have just run a bunch of truncates |
| [10:56:26] | fryfrog: | ah, humm :/ |
| [10:57:04] | directhex: | okay, it has the right number of entries in music_songs now |
| [10:57:32] | directhex: | okay, NOW to try it on the ps3 |
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| [12:04:23] | sonicman66: | guys I have a quick one |
| [12:04:48] | sonicman66: | I have two switches DP style and 5 birds |
| [12:05:04] | sonicman66: | how do I setup the configuration to see all five |
| [12:05:17] | sonicman66: | I have four working on one switch |
| [12:05:43] | sonicman66: | uding mythtbuntu |
| [12:05:52] | sonicman66: | using eeer |
| [12:06:47] | sonicman66: | thanks neway guys |
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| [12:07:19] | jvs: | cheers mate |
| [12:07:25] | jvs: | keep it going, "DP style" |
| [12:13:21] | quicksilver: | DP style with 5 birds, indeed. |
| [12:13:34] | quicksilver: | I never knew mythbuntu was so much fun. |
| [12:13:40] | jvs: | :) |
| [12:14:07] | egyn: | what does that actually mean? (i have never run mytv – yet) |
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| [12:22:03] | egyn: | idiot question maybe, can mythtv handle analog tv-signals? |
| [12:22:49] | egyn: | found the answer, sorry. |
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| [15:53:05] | sap2: | hi, does anyone have an idea what would cause image pixelation whilst watching live tv and the sound and image becoming out of sync? |
| [15:53:53] | gbee: | poor signal quality ;) |
| [15:54:22] | sap2: | gbee: :) |
| [15:55:00] | gbee: | for digital? generally not, in the UK since the Freeview signals are operating at lower power so they don't interfer with the old analogue ones |
| [15:55:52] | gbee: | you really need at least a loft aerial and depending on location a roof mounted aerial, you may even need to replace the roof aerial with a high gain version |
| [15:57:11] | sap2: | gbee: i need to find someone with a good signal to test it then since i don't have access to the aerial i use. |
| [15:57:17] | sap2: | gbee: thanks |
| [15:59:31] | gbee: | I have no problems with a loft aerial and various different cards, including a Nova-T and Nova-T 500 |
| [15:59:32] | ajh: | gbee, oh don't complain about digital service there... I think I might get a single channel if I put up an aerial |
| [15:59:52] | gbee: | ;) |
| [16:00:48] | gbee: | things should improve once the analogue broadcasts stop and they can then afford to increase the power and modulation of the signals |
| [16:00:55] | ajh: | The fun thing there is mobile roaming, while we were in Cork, Alan Cox's motorola would switch providers every time we walked from the B&B apt to the breakfast place, and about 50% of the time it would crash when it switched... which it did a whole lot. |
| [16:01:24] | gbee: | heh |
| [16:01:41] | ajh: | but we got coverage everywhere, even up in the hills. |
| [16:02:56] | gbee: | yeah, there is blanket coverage, you might even say it's over done – there are 5/6 different providors with mast gear operating around here and I don't live in some huge city |
| [16:03:12] | gbee: | plus there always seems to be someone else wanting to erect new masts |
| [16:03:27] | ajh: | We get 1. We had 2 but then they bought the other out. |
| [16:03:34] | ajh: | Well, in GSM, we also have CDMA. |
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| [16:06:33] | notjoe: | I am using the removecommercials script to cut the commercials out of the recorded show. the mythtranscode util used the mpeg2 profile and encodes the video into mpeg4 format and still keeps the .mpg extension. when i try to play the video using my ps3 it thinks it is still an mpeg2 file and says it is corrputed. So i renamed the file to .mp4, updated the basename field in the recorded table. my mythtv clients can watch the video without any proble |
| [16:06:33] | notjoe: | ms but when i go to play the video file on the ps3 it says that it doesnt exist |
| [16:06:48] | notjoe: | my guess is that the upnp server is still looking for the mpg file |
| [16:12:26] | gbee: | ajh: witihn 2 miles of here there are 4xUMTS masts (3G), 5xGMS masts (Ofcom handily have online maps of all sites), that doesn't even include the one they put up 200 yds down the road 6 months ago |
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| [17:19:07] | n0_0n3: | Can anyone help me configure tone switches and/or DISEQC in mythtv (with legacy LNB's)? |
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| [17:19:53] | justinh: | wow |
| [17:20:08] | justinh: | according to slashdot mythtv now supports multiple frontends!!!!!!!!!!! :-O |
| [17:20:27] | justinh: | oh wait. it always has |
| [17:20:47] | at0m|c: | multible backends even! |
| [17:21:01] | at0m|c: | multible! |
| [17:22:02] | robert`: | I just installed a PVR-250 with Mythbuntu 8.04. It works pretty darn slick as-is. I am however only able right now to record LiveTV and scheduled recordings don't record... and for that matter don't appear on the program guide as scheduled to record. They also don't show on Mythweb under upcoming recordings. They do only show up under "Recordings Schedule" on Mythweb but never actually record. /dev/sda1 112G 547M 112G 1% /var/lib/ |
| [17:23:34] | n0_0n3: | anyone using mythtv w/ satellite? |
| [17:24:57] | gbee: | slashdot is a joke |
| [17:25:19] | gbee: | n0_0n3: yes, but not with switches/DISEQC |
| [17:25:34] | n0_0n3: | tone? |
| [17:25:44] | gbee: | Universal LNB |
| [17:26:02] | n0_0n3: | true fta? |
| [17:26:28] | gbee: | here in the UK at least, yes |
| [17:26:58] | n0_0n3: | is it motorized? |
| [17:27:02] | gbee: | couple of hundred FTA channels |
| [17:27:17] | gbee: | no static, pointed at the Astra 2D and Eurobird constellation |
| [17:27:42] | n0_0n3: | sasc? |
| [17:28:02] | justinh: | welcome to the land of nohelp :) |
| [17:28:08] | gbee: | none at all |
| [17:28:12] | at0m|c: | robert`, run "tail /var/log/mythtv/mythbackend.log", that may give some clues.. |
| [17:28:15] | robert`: | k |
| [17:28:35] | robert`: | 2008-08–16 12:25:25.485 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Monitor |
| [17:28:35] | robert`: | 2008-08–16 12:25:25.488 adding: mythtv as a client (events: 0) |
| [17:28:38] | robert`: | bunch of those repeated |
| [17:28:43] | justinh: | n0_0n3: oh FTA as in 'stolen to make it free'. you won't get help for that in here |
| [17:29:36] | robert`: | the frontendlog doesnt seem to contain any valid errors either |
| [17:29:42] | n0_0n3: | i don't need help with that |
| [17:29:43] | robert`: | just switching to this or that info. |
| [17:30:00] | n0_0n3: | i need basic help w/ multiple LNB's |
| [17:30:31] | justinh: | good luck now |
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| [17:34:39] | robert`: | i really havent been able to locate any errors really for any daemon or client |
| [17:42:30] | robert`: | Figured it out. I had the 2 ips set differently. 192.168.1.30 vs 127.0.0.1 and it was confusing itself. changing the 2nd to 127.0.0.1 worked and it immediately started a schedule recording |
| [17:42:48] | robert`: | err from 127.0.0.1 to 192.168.1.30 |
| [17:43:02] | robert`: | good bye =] |
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| [17:54:44] | rimbob: | woot canada moved to 25th place |
| [17:55:34] | ** gbee misread that, thought the whole country had shifted ** | |
| [17:55:40] | rimbob: | :) |
| [17:56:27] | justinh: | that'd be funny. Canada decides to move away from USA in 'shock move' |
| [17:56:49] | justinh: | bloody eck we're seventh! |
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| [18:00:43] | justinh: | ugh. not sure I can face another night out tonight. got drinks at staff prices last night. house treble & mixer for £1.50 |
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| [18:08:07] | mouseclone: | anyone use the Hauppaugel WinTV 44801 card? I didn't see it listed but I'm really not sure of the chipset on the card itslef |
| [18:08:52] | justinh: | sounds like just another framegrabber, V4L bog standard tv tuner |
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| [18:09:16] | justinh: | try tvtime with it, see if it works |
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| [18:10:50] | mouseclone: | Thx justinh, I will give it a shot when I get mythbuntu downloaded and installed |
| [18:11:31] | iamlindoro: | Yay! Rewiring done-- I remember how much I hate terminating Cat6 and why now |
| [18:11:58] | iamlindoro: | Because I lack the gnome hands to do so |
| [18:12:31] | justinh: | things to look out for: make sure the audio loop cable you use is connected to the right soundcard input and that it's set to MUTE in the playback section of your linux mixer. verify that the right audio input is set to CAPTURE in your linux mixer too |
| [18:12:57] | justinh: | iamlindoro: I hate terminating rj45 connectors |
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| [18:13:32] | justinh: | I absolutely _despise_ having to terminate BNC connectors though ;) |
| [18:13:44] | iamlindoro: | justinh: The good news is, my presence here proves that it was successful-- good thing, too, because if I had found a wiring fault after all of that, I would have just smashed all the drywall in and lived in a house frame |
| [18:14:03] | wagnerrp: | rj45 i can do pretty quickly, but it destroys my fingers, trying to get the wires lined up |
| [18:14:38] | justinh: | heh |
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| [18:15:13] | iamlindoro: | All of this in the name of backend consolidation and saving the erff |
| [18:15:54] | justinh: | at work we make a product called TransVu. it has a really nasty connector on it. 48 pins & built like a monster. thing is, trying to terminate video coax to it & get everything together through the shell is a pain |
| [18:16:22] | justinh: | I had to draw a prototype so it could be taken into production. 3 A3 pages in autocad, chock full |
| [18:16:43] | justinh: | and I was a noob @ autocad. it took me 2 weeks |
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| [18:18:57] | justinh: | eep just realised I haven't checked my flightcase after last night yet |
| [18:21:23] | justinh: | phew. all there, which is more than I can say for me today |
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| [18:31:31] | Solaris444: | Where is the best place to go for help getting my video capture cards working? |
| [18:31:46] | justinh: | now THAT is a metaquestion! |
| [18:32:24] | justinh: | who told you this place would be the best place to ask about the best place for help getting your video capture cards working? |
| [18:32:30] | Solaris444: | Well I figure that if I'm not in the right place, at least someone here will be able to point me in the right direction. :-) |
| [18:32:41] | iamlindoro: | #linuxtv for digital, #v4l for analog |
| [18:32:44] | justinh: | just ask questions. direct questions |
| [18:33:09] | Solaris444: | that was fairly direct I thought. |
| [18:33:21] | Solaris444: | I have a conexant cx23416 card. |
| [18:33:24] | justinh: | no, it was vague & didn't give anybody any idea what you really need help with |
| [18:33:25] | Solaris444: | I have the firmware loaded. |
| [18:33:29] | Solaris444: | dmesg looks good. |
| [18:33:37] | Solaris444: | But I don't see anything. |
| [18:33:45] | justinh: | conexant don't make video cards |
| [18:34:01] | Solaris444: | thankyou iamlindoro |
| [18:34:34] | justinh: | so I'm guessing the card is some kind of analogue tuner with hardware mpeg2 compression |
| [18:34:36] | Solaris444: | Obviously they don't justinh. They do however make chipsets upon which cards are based. |
| [18:34:52] | Solaris444: | No tuner. Just straight rca and svideo input. |
| [18:34:59] | justinh: | ok |
| [18:35:07] | justinh: | wow. never ran into anything like that |
| [18:35:22] | Solaris444: | oh. |
| [18:35:23] | justinh: | are the device nodes created? /dev/video0 for instance? |
| [18:35:26] | Solaris444: | yes. |
| [18:35:29] | Solaris444: | they are indeed. |
| [18:35:41] | justinh: | does catting /dev/video0 to a file or mplayer produce good output? |
| [18:35:56] | justinh: | eep. g2g bye bye |
| [18:36:27] | notjoe: | justinh: well, the ps3 doesnt give me an error such as corrupted video |
| [18:36:33] | notjoe: | but rather it says it doesnt exist |
| [18:36:53] | Solaris444: | justinh: not sure how to do that. |
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| [18:40:02] | notjoe: | i didnt think .mpg could be a container for mpeg4 |
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| [18:41:50] | Solaris444: | I wouldn't know. |
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| [18:53:20] | petre: | I've installed mythtv-frontend & mythviewer packages on my Linux Mint laptop |
| [18:53:48] | petre: | but when I select MythTV Frontend from the menu, nothing comes up, although ps shows it running |
| [18:54:08] | petre: | The first time I started it, the config screen came up |
| [18:54:38] | petre: | But once I gave it the correct port for the DB on the backend box, it disappeared but nothing else appears. |
| [18:54:55] | Solaris444: | but is your backend set up for multiuser access? |
| [18:55:30] | petre: | I think so, as I have two Hauppauge MVP frontends in use around the house |
| [18:55:39] | petre: | feeding the TVs |
| [18:56:23] | petre: | Do I need some other application besides the frontend package? |
| [18:56:30] | petre: | on my laptop? |
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| [19:00:49] | cesman: | petre: perhaps running mythfrontend from a terminal... |
| [19:03:15] | petre: | ok, running from a terminal, it says its making a new DB connection, but still no window appears for interacting with the backend/viewing the videos |
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| [19:11:49] | abarber1: | having trouble getting live tv to work with mythbuntu |
| [19:12:01] | abarber1: | specifically, dish network |
| [19:14:21] | abarber1: | from what i have gathered, it seems all mythbuntu needs is a channel changing script |
| [19:20:40] | cesman: | yes, with a "cable box", you need some means to change the channel (ir blaster and a script) |
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| [19:26:41] | Gumby: | If I am trying to track down a bit of a stuttering problem while watching HD where would I start? I have a dual core e2180 o/c to 3.0GHz, nvidia 7150 graphics outputting 720p via HDMI. I'm not 100% sure of the resolution of the incoming stream or if it matters |
| [19:27:18] | Gumby: | the problem is somewhat intermittant and sometimes depends on the channel I am watching |
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| [19:33:43] | Gumby: | abarber1: you have a dvb-s card or are you just trying to feed from a receiver into a cable tuner card? |
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| [20:00:58] | abarber1: | gumby, you there? |
| [20:02:03] | abarber1: | i have a STB and i have a coax going from it to a pvr-150 |
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| [20:03:08] | abarber1: | what i would love to see is the computer even pick up just the one channel that is being sent |
| [20:03:16] | abarber1: | but i get nothing |
| [20:03:17] | Gumby: | ah yes, then you will need an ir transmitter and a script |
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| [20:04:32] | abarber1: | well, everyone tells me the pvr-150 has a transmitter built in |
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| [20:05:06] | abarber1: | but i also have a USB blaster |
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| [20:34:29] | clever: | ugh, the gid of mythtv isnt sync'ed between my system |
| [20:34:30] | clever: | s |
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| [20:38:33] | craftyguy: | anyone have any ideas on how to cool down a low-profile pci tuner card? |
| [20:39:01] | clever: | cold water! |
| [20:39:04] | craftyguy: | normal pci 'slot fans' will not work since it is low-profile, and dont want to go hacking fan holes in my chassis just yet ;) |
| [20:39:19] | craftyguy: | clever, i thought of that, but not sure i can get a waterblock that would fit :P |
| [20:39:36] | clever: | you could just dump a bucket of it in there |
| [20:39:44] | clever: | no garentee it will still work though:P |
| [20:39:44] | Solaris444: | dammit. my capture card is being a bitch. |
| [20:39:48] | craftyguy: | haha |
| [20:40:00] | craftyguy: | right now i have a huge box fan pointed at it with the panel off |
| [20:40:05] | Solaris444: | all yuv stream buffers full. |
| [20:40:05] | clever: | lol |
| [20:40:25] | clever: | Solaris444: sounds like my ir blaster;P |
| [20:40:35] | clever: | it just cut out after a dist-upgrade |
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| [20:50:18] | AndyCap: | craftyguy: good old mineral oil. :P |
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| [21:06:36] | robert`: | Got a question about jobs in background (specifically commercial tagging). If you reboot or lose power during a commercial flagging or user job it has no way to tell if it finished when the computer starts up? Does this eliminate the commercial flagging job on that file? Does it resume automagically? Can you start a resume manually? |
| [21:06:57] | clever: | how would i go about capturing a single frame from a /dev/video0? |
| [21:09:23] | robert`: | clever: there are a few things.. camgrab is one piece of software that can capture from /dev/video0 |
| [21:09:32] | robert`: | also try googling for "video-capture" |
| [21:09:45] | clever: | next, how would i OCR that frame for numbers |
| [21:10:06] | robert`: | heh.. interesting |
| [21:10:10] | robert`: | what are you looking for? |
| [21:10:18] | clever: | im trying to read the display on my STB |
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| [21:10:32] | robert`: | like channel info? |
| [21:10:36] | clever: | yep |
| [21:10:42] | mrice: | hello mythtv users |
| [21:10:52] | robert`: | sounds pretty ineffecient |
| [21:10:55] | clever: | robert`: so my lirc blaster script can confirm the change worked and retry it |
| [21:11:02] | robert`: | hmmm |
| [21:11:11] | clever: | the thing kept droping digits |
| [21:11:20] | clever: | right now its not even picking up a single digit |
| [21:11:35] | clever: | im manualy changing channels for it |
| [21:11:54] | Solaris444: | incredible! |
| [21:11:57] | Solaris444: | I got it working... somehow. |
| [21:12:00] | clever: | i got the webcam up thru a streaming server atm so i can check without walking downstairs |
| [21:12:01] | robert`: | does the ir receiver get all the digits but the blaster isnt able to get them all to the box? |
| [21:12:02] | Solaris444: | I... don't really know how. |
| [21:12:04] | Solaris444: | But I did. |
| [21:12:08] | Solaris444: | Freakin incredible. |
| [21:12:17] | Solaris444: | *shakes head* |
| [21:12:21] | clever: | robert`: the blaster's ir led is blinking, but the box completely ignores it |
| [21:12:31] | Solaris444: | OK, now is there a way to PREVENT a channel from being recorded? |
| [21:12:42] | Solaris444: | I mean, this is connected to my dreamcast. |
| [21:12:52] | Solaris444: | I don't want the 5 second delay that I'm getting. |
| [21:12:55] | robert`: | clever: wonder if its sending bad signal commands? |
| [21:13:08] | robert`: | dreamcast? |
| [21:13:09] | robert`: | lol |
| [21:13:10] | Solaris444: | I don't need to "rewind" my dreamcast sould calibur matches. |
| [21:13:11] | clever: | robert`: i think its the led itself, its very dim |
| [21:13:24] | Solaris444: | Dreamcast is teh awesome robert` |
| [21:13:24] | robert`: | clever: what ir devices you got? |
| [21:13:28] | robert`: | i have a dreamcast |
| [21:13:30] | robert`: | what are you using it for? |
| [21:13:32] | robert`: | frontend only? |
| [21:13:38] | clever: | robert`: home made serial blaster |
| [21:14:23] | robert`: | clever: hmm.. wonder if you could setup the blaster to loop the signals back at the ir receiver and do irrecord to see if its even sending stuff out |
| [21:14:36] | robert`: | i dont use a blaster myself |
| [21:14:37] | clever: | robert`: i can try that with my phone |
| [21:14:50] | clever: | or not |
| [21:14:54] | robert`: | but id definitely make sure its able to get the info out.. then after that id verify the info is correct |
| [21:14:55] | clever: | the 10 day trial expired |
| [21:14:59] | robert`: | bummer |
| [21:15:04] | clever: | i'll crack it |
| [21:15:11] | clever: | its easy on palm systems |
| [21:15:15] | clever: | when you delete a program |
| [21:15:21] | clever: | you automaticaly delete all its settings |
| [21:15:23] | robert`: | hah |
| [21:15:31] | clever: | no choice:P |
| [21:15:32] | robert`: | just reinstall for a renewal time? |
| [21:15:36] | clever: | yep |
| [21:15:42] | robert`: | interesting |
| [21:15:46] | iamlindoro: | !trout motherboard can-only-handle-ten-HDDs-your-fucker |
| [21:15:46] | ** MythLogBot slaps motherboard with a can-only-handle-ten-HDDs-your-fucker trout on behalf of iamlindoro... ** | |
| [21:15:54] | iamlindoro: | s/your/you/ |
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| [21:15:59] | clever: | iamlindoro: be glad, i can only handle 4 |
| [21:16:04] | robert`: | 10 HDDS? |
| [21:16:11] | robert`: | just buy bigger ones |
| [21:16:12] | robert`: | =] |
| [21:16:17] | robert`: | 1TB drives arent bad these days |
| [21:16:20] | iamlindoro: | Not when all ten are as large as they sell |
| [21:16:29] | robert`: | 10TB? |
| [21:16:31] | iamlindoro: | yes |
| [21:16:37] | clever: | lol |
| [21:16:39] | robert`: | cant imagine why you would need more |
| [21:16:45] | iamlindoro: | Then you should imagine harder |
| [21:16:48] | clever: | i dont even have 600gig between my 4 drives(total) |
| [21:17:00] | robert`: | even with all the recording and dvd ripping |
| [21:17:01] | iamlindoro: | transcoding is for pussies |
| [21:17:07] | robert`: | if you hit 10TB you probably have useless stuff |
| [21:17:18] | iamlindoro: | Thankfully I didn't solicit your opinion |
| [21:17:25] | clever: | robert`: isnt cracking, but i allways have the format option |
| [21:17:40] | clever: | that one allways works |
| [21:18:24] | robert`: | what raid setup you have on the drives/ |
| [21:18:48] | iamlindoro: | 6 |
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| [21:18:57] | clever: | 1 parity drive? |
| [21:19:29] | iamlindoro: | 6 = two |
| [21:19:36] | iamlindoro: | parity drives, that is |
| [21:19:38] | clever: | ahh yeah |
| [21:19:40] | robert`: | 2 drive parity |
| [21:19:44] | robert`: | that makes sense on the space then |
| [21:19:47] | robert`: | its eating it up |
| [21:19:51] | clever: | 8tb usable |
| [21:19:54] | iamlindoro: | yep |
| [21:20:17] | robert`: | bet its a heat pump though |
| [21:20:19] | iamlindoro: | And myth isn't the only thing going on there, sooo |
| [21:20:26] | iamlindoro: | yes, lots of heat |
| [21:20:48] | clever: | robert`: 'reformating in progress...' |
| [21:20:48] | robert`: | noisey too |
| [21:20:58] | iamlindoro: | In a closet, so not an issue :) |
| [21:21:01] | robert`: | heh |
| [21:21:13] | robert`: | id stick something like that in garage or something |
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| [21:21:21] | clever: | i recently moved my capture card to a slave backend |
| [21:21:26] | clever: | and turned it into the master |
| [21:21:41] | iamlindoro: | Garage is on the other side of the building and through slab concrete, so not possible in this case-- but would be good if it were |
| [21:22:00] | clever: | ive now got a minor problem |
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| [21:22:12] | clever: | it seems theP4 is streaming the recording off media's mythbackend |
| [21:22:16] | robert`: | whats the story with commercial flagging... will a computer resume in any way a flagging job if rebooting mid job? |
| [21:22:19] | clever: | which is streaming it from theP4's nfs |
| [21:22:28] | robert`: | or does that completely stop that file from getting tagged |
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| [21:22:36] | clever: | robert`: not that i know of, it just starts over from the begining |
| [21:22:49] | robert`: | but it remembers to check it? |
| [21:23:03] | clever: | depends on how long the system is off i think |
| [21:23:14] | clever: | something else may clear out the crashed job before it can resume |
| [21:23:27] | robert`: | well i wanted to replace the dvd drive with a dvdrw |
| [21:23:41] | robert`: | but i really wanted the tagging to complete its first job so i can check it |
| [21:23:45] | robert`: | so i waited |
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| [21:28:02] | clever: | robert`: isnt working |
| [21:28:17] | clever: | robert`: when i try to teach my phone the code for '4' it spews a receive error |
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| [21:31:56] | inkynoob: | Anyone here using a Wiimote as their Myth remote? |
| [21:32:35] | clever: | i dont even have a wii/wiimote but i do have another bluetooth device i tried to turn into a remote |
| [21:32:57] | inkynoob: | How' d it go? |
| [21:33:08] | clever: | the code for the palm end wont compile |
| [21:33:14] | inkynoob: | sorry to hear that |
| [21:33:15] | directhex: | mythtv has poor pointer support |
| [21:33:21] | clever: | and im not even 20% into the tutorial on the bluetooth stuff |
| [21:33:22] | Solaris444: | Guys, do you know if there is an option to set mythtv to record a particular channel ONLY when you hit "record"? |
| [21:33:29] | directhex: | so the wiimote is a bad fit |
| [21:33:58] | clever: | directhex: you could still use the buttons like normal buttons and just not use the pointer |
| [21:34:03] | Hilikus: | hey guys |
| [21:34:10] | inkynoob: | I got my wiimote working, but I'm looking for a good key map for it. It's got 11 buttons, and I'm not sure the best way to set them up |
| [21:34:15] | Hilikus: | how can i watch youtube videos from mythbrowser |
| [21:34:28] | inkynoob: | Yeah, clever's right. It'll be mostly used as normal buttons |
| [21:34:34] | clever: | brb |
| [21:34:50] | directhex: | clever, yes, you could. a d-pad and seven buttons though? there are loads of bette remotes |
| [21:35:24] | inkynoob: | Hilikus, I wrote a short script which passes firefox argument #11, and pointed Mythtv at that instead of at mythbrowser. With the fullerscreen plugin, it works alright |
| [21:35:37] | inkynoob: | (argument 11 is the URL to go to) |
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| [21:37:59] | Hilikus: | where can i find that |
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| [21:39:26] | inkynoob: | Just put something like |
| [21:39:27] | inkynoob: | #!/bin/bash |
| [21:39:27] | inkynoob: | firefox $11 |
| [21:39:57] | dustybin: | i stuch a asus gforce 7600GS AGP card into a PC, but couldnt get any output out of the VGA port |
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| [21:40:15] | inkynoob: | into a file, save it somewhere good and make it executable. Then in the mythbrowser setup, point mythtv at that shell script instead of at the mythbrowser executable |
| [21:40:17] | dustybin: | the machine it was in before, was using the DVI output what worked fine |
| [21:40:39] | abarber_: | Is there a way I can test to see if my tuner card is recieving signal from the dish box? |
| [21:41:05] | abarber_: | I'm having trouble getting myth working.. I finally got the remote working with lirc, but I can't seem to tune any channels |
| [21:41:40] | abarber_: | I have a Hauppage 150, running mythbuntu |
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| [21:42:50] | dustybin: | i need to use a vga to dvi adapter grrrrrrrrrr |
| [21:43:20] | abarber_: | dusty you dont live in california do y ou? I have like ten laying around |
| [21:43:34] | dustybin: | no UK, im sure i got one someone |
| [21:43:59] | abarber_: | dusty have you got mythtv working at some point yet? |
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| [21:44:29] | dustybin: | abarber_: i got it working properly for a few months now, ever since i got my nova-t working properly |
| [21:44:56] | ** clever sets up a complex ssh chain to make a system beep on channel change ** | |
| [21:45:15] | dustybin: | clever: isnt it about time we focused on 1 thing |
| [21:45:26] | dustybin: | clever: your brain must be all over the place |
| [21:45:29] | abarber_: | dusty: I can seem to get my Dish Satelite to play in myth |
| [21:45:35] | clever: | dustybin: its allways all over the place:P |
| [21:45:50] | dustybin: | abarber_: i dont have any experience with dvb-s |
| [21:46:01] | abarber_: | dusty: Im new to all this, but I finally made some progress in that I got the channel listing to download and my remote to register |
| [21:46:12] | dustybin: | abarber_: aye good |
| [21:46:26] | dustybin: | abarber_: mythbuntu might make your life a bit easier? |
| [21:47:01] | abarber_: | I'm using mythbuntu now .. with the gnome desktop .. xfce doesn't appeal to my tastes |
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| [21:47:40] | abarber_: | dusty: the signal should be ntsc from the stb |
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| [21:47:52] | abarber_: | dusty: not dvb-s |
| [21:47:53] | abarber_: | ? |
| [21:47:55] | dustybin: | abarber_: i havent a father bean |
| [21:48:11] | dustybin: | abarber_: im based in UK using freeview |
| [21:48:41] | dustybin: | abarber_: our inhouse expert, clever, should be able to help |
| [21:48:48] | clever: | lol |
| [21:49:01] | dustybin: | fire away clever |
| [21:49:10] | dustybin: | (they dont call him 'clever' for no reason) |
| [21:49:20] | abarber_: | cleverfield |
| [21:49:21] | ** dustybin takes a sneaky exit ** | |
| [21:49:41] | abarber_: | They should make a move about you clever hehe |
| [21:49:50] | abarber_: | clever: You think you might be able to help? |
| [21:50:25] | clever: | dont see what the question is yet |
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| [21:51:33] | abarber_: | clever: Ok well first, I want to know if there is a way to test if my tuner card is pickup up signal from the input. This is my first time trying to setup myth and I've made some excellent progress considering my linux ability |
| [21:51:46] | clever: | what type of card is it? |
| [21:52:06] | abarber_: | It is a Hauuapage! 150 tuner, and my service is through Dish |
| [21:52:33] | clever: | sounds like the identical card to what i have |
| [21:52:41] | clever: | how are you connection the sat box to the card? |
| [21:52:45] | abarber_: | thats fantastic |
| [21:53:37] | abarber_: | It is a coax connection from the channe 3–4 out to the tuner card and the connection seems solid |
| [21:54:11] | clever: | and what have you done in 'input connections' in mythtv-setup? |
| [21:54:35] | clever: | sounds like it should be on tuner0, preset the tuner to channel 3, and have a channel change script |
| [21:55:09] | abarber_: | If I remember correctly there was an input where I set the channel to 3 set it to video0 and wrote a channel change script from a guide of the net |
| [21:55:33] | clever: | then try playing livetv in mythfrontend to see what happens |
| [21:55:35] | abarber_: | let me just make sure though.. also If the channel change script is off, will that kill the signal? |
| [21:55:52] | clever: | aslong as the box is 'on', youll have signal |
| [21:55:54] | abarber_: | I have done that I just get a black screen for a while and it drops back to main menu |
| [21:55:57] | clever: | though it may be on the wrong channel |
| [21:56:12] | clever: | or not even be on a channel |
| [21:56:29] | craftyguy: | any reason why I would be seeing "Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /media/recordings/1491_20080704230000.mpg |
| [21:56:32] | abarber_: | also maybe interesting or not, when I do the scan for channels it only finds 4 or 5 |
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| [21:57:11] | clever: | abarber_: i would perfer to not use coax between the box and card |
| [21:57:23] | clever: | abarber_: im using composite video to connect my external tuner |
| [21:57:26] | abarber_: | clever: if the channel change script had the wrong remote device name, what would that do? |
| [21:57:38] | clever: | abarber_: fail to change channels |
| [21:57:52] | clever: | abarber_: you should be able to test it by just running the script with a number |
| [21:57:56] | clever: | ./script 45 |
| [21:58:02] | abarber_: | clever: but it should atleast have apicture on the channel it is currently set to? |
| [21:58:06] | clever: | it should change to channel 45 |
| [21:58:31] | abarber_: | your card has a composite input? |
| [21:58:34] | clever: | i havent used sat boxes much so i dont know how they would react if you change to a bad channel |
| [21:58:46] | clever: | my card has coax, composite, and svideo |
| [21:59:05] | abarber_: | I see.. mine is an internal card |
| [21:59:07] | Gumby: | abarber_: may I message you? |
| [21:59:22] | abarber_: | and I don't know if I have a s-video cable anywhere |
| [21:59:39] | abarber_: | Gumby yes, although I don't know if this account is registered lemme check |
| [22:00:04] | clever: | my pvr150 is also 'internal' to the computer, like any PCI card |
| [22:00:27] | abarber_: | gumby I am not identified on this account one second I'll join on my other account |
| [22:00:57] | abarber_: | clever: oh, I think I only have s-video, coax and the yellow video input |
| [22:01:09] | clever: | yeah the yellow is the standard color for composite |
| [22:01:19] | clever: | there should be a matching output on the sat box |
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| [22:01:48] | Gumby: | is the composite an input or output on the 150? |
| [22:01:54] | clever: | input |
| [22:01:58] | abarber_: | clever: oh I though composite was the RGB |
| [22:02:05] | clever: | and youll need one of http://media.shiachat.com/tutorials/rca_headphone.jpg to get sound |
| [22:02:11] | badkitty: | gumby you can PM me for abarber |
| [22:02:11] | clever: | abarber_: thats component |
| [22:02:17] | badkitty: | ahhh |
| [22:02:18] | Gumby: | RGB=component |
| [22:02:19] | badkitty: | thats right |
| [22:02:50] | Gumby: | badkitty: is your satellite box a subscription or do you use alternate methods? |
| [22:03:50] | Gumby: | lol, that was supposed to be precursed by a /msg |
| [22:03:57] | badkitty: | haha |
| [22:04:18] | ** Gumby was sitting waiting for a response in PM but nothing was coming ** | |
| [22:04:59] | clever: | Gumby: theres a special mode you can set on yourself, to let unregistered people pm you |
| [22:05:16] | clever: | i forget how but #help can probly explain it |
| [22:05:30] | Gumby: | clever: that wasnt the issue. the issue was that I didnt /msg him, I sent it to the channel instead |
| [22:05:38] | clever: | ah lol |
| [22:07:15] | badkitty: | hmmm |
| [22:08:19] | badkitty: | From the tutorials I saw on the net, my config file looks alot different, but Im assuming because mythbuntu has a manager that manages it it wouldbe different |
| [22:09:20] | badkitty: | One concern I had was the channel changer script tutorial had me look up a conf file for the remote name, which wasn't there, but referenced by another config file, and when I found that one, the remote name it was using didn't sound correct for what I was expecting to find |
| [22:09:56] | badkitty: | I may also need to revisit an English course to see if that last sentence even makes any sense |
| [22:10:25] | badkitty: | You can see how badly this is hurting my brain, not being able to watch tv on my mythbox hehe |
| [22:12:32] | badkitty: | When I add tuner cards (I only have one as of yet) it shows three options in /dev ... video0, video 24 and video32 I think... Im going from memory right now though .. would it just be the one ending in 0? |
| [22:12:54] | clever: | yeah the video0 is the one i have to use |
| [22:14:45] | badkitty: | What kind of remote do you use? |
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| [22:15:47] | clever: | im not using the remote that came with my card or the receiver |
| [22:16:02] | clever: | the drivers went tits up a few months ago |
| [22:16:18] | badkitty: | what is it? Mor am I, I have a MCE remote |
| [22:16:43] | clever: | mine says 'Hauppauge!' right on it |
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| [22:18:56] | badkitty: | clever, ok Im gonna open up the backend and tell you what I have in my settings |
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| [22:25:59] | badkitty: | clever: Input is tuner1, videosource = schedule-direct, preset tuner to channel 3 |
| [22:26:44] | clever: | sounds normal |
| [22:27:01] | clever: | may need to set tuner1 to the default input under capture cards |
| [22:28:27] | badkitty: | As far as the external channel change command, I had to delete the card and reinstall it so I have to look up the script I got, but if there is nothing there, I should atleast get something on the screen, I just wont be able to change channel correct? |
| [22:28:48] | badkitty: | clever: Ok the default input IS tuner 1 |
| [22:28:59] | dustybin: | ive always wanted one of these keyboards: |
| [22:28:59] | dustybin: | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Original-IBM-PC-Keyboar . . . p3286.c0.m14 |
| [22:29:36] | clever: | badkitty: try connecting a tv(maybe thru a spliter to keep the card connected) to make shure the box is even working as it should |
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| [22:32:15] | autojack: | is anyone using mythmusic with ALSA? I'm finding that the volume control doesn't work in this setup, and the solution of changing the sound device to ALSA:default doesn't work for me. |
| [22:33:32] | iamlindoro: | It's a fair bet that 95% of people using MythMusic are doing so with ALSA |
| [22:33:38] | clever: | autojack: you may need to change the mixer device also |
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| [22:33:48] | clever: | not shure what to |
| [22:34:00] | iamlindoro: | 4% are doing it through ALSA's OSS compat layer, thinking they use OSS, and 1% are using OSS |
| [22:34:23] | autojack: | iamlindoro: that would have been my assumption also, but all the research on "volume doesn't work in mythmusic" points to "mythmusic doesn't support ALSA and you have to do something weird to make it work" |
| [22:34:30] | clever: | ive only had to use real oss once or twice, both times with an isa sound card |
| [22:34:40] | iamlindoro: | That is patently false, and those people should be roundly bludgeoned |
| [22:34:41] | autojack: | let me look at the mixer setting, I didn't think of that. |
| [22:34:47] | autojack: | haha |
| [22:35:05] | autojack: | well... my volume doesn't work! |
| [22:35:13] | badkitty: | change-channel-lirc.pl is what I have for external channel command. I don't need to specify a directory do I if it is in /usr/local/bin right? |
| [22:35:21] | clever: | also near the mixer config, you can control which volume your addjusting, master or pcm normaly |
| [22:35:30] | autojack: | the up/down display thingy shows that it's doing something, but there's no change. |
| [22:35:35] | autojack: | so I know it's not a keybinding thing. |
| [22:35:39] | clever: | badkitty: aslong as /usr/local/bin is patt of your PATH |
| [22:35:59] | autojack: | clever: is this mixer setting in mythmusic settings, or general settings? |
| [22:36:10] | clever: | autojack: not shure, check everything |
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| [22:37:33] | iamlindoro: | The other possibility is that you are using SPDIF out |
| [22:37:47] | iamlindoro: | is which case you'll need to use your receiver's volume controls regardless |
| [22:37:55] | iamlindoro: | er in which |
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| [22:38:56] | badkitty: | clever: If I have the inputs correct, when I scan for channels, it should find a ton of channels correct? Not just like 5? |
| [22:39:30] | clever_: | back |
| [22:39:31] | badkitty: | clever: My buddy is locating a small tv to test the cable too |
| [22:39:32] | clever_: | 16 19:35:59 < autojack> clever: is this mixer setting in mythmusic settings, or general settings? |
| [22:39:34] | clever_: | 16 19:36:10 < clever> autojack: not shure, check everything |
| [22:39:36] | clever_: | badkitty: channel scanning only works if you have several channels on the coax |
| [22:39:38] | clever_: | you should only have 1 or 2, which would be 3 or 4 |
| [22:40:01] | iamlindoro: | clever-- the pasting'est gunslinger in #mythtv-users |
| [22:40:05] | badkitty: | clever .. strange that one didn't even show up.. |
| [22:40:22] | autojack: | I am not using SPDIF out, so it's not that. |
| [22:40:38] | autojack: | mixer is in the default settings, I have it set to pcm. |
| [22:40:39] | clever_: | iamlindoro: pointing out what i last heard/said incase the disconnect cut some off |
| [22:41:03] | iamlindoro: | Use your words, clever |
| [22:41:07] | iamlindoro: | not just ctrl-v |
| [22:41:08] | clever_: | autojack: theres also a mixer device which may be /dev/mixer (oss emulated one) |
| [22:41:22] | clever_: | iamlindoro: and ctrl+v does '' :P |
| [22:41:59] | iamlindoro: | Embarassing that you need to do that often enough to have a macro for it |
| [22:42:04] | autojack: | clever_ yeah the mixer device is set to /dev/mixer |
| [22:42:08] | autojack: | maybe I should change that? |
| [22:42:23] | clever_: | autojack: yeah it should probly be changed |
| [22:42:33] | clever_: | i jsut dont know what the right value for alsa is |
| [22:43:07] | autojack: | oh yeah, that worked! |
| [22:43:12] | autojack: | ASLA:default worked |
| [22:43:45] | clever_: | and suddenly it all makes sense! |
| [22:44:37] | autojack: | heh |
| [22:44:46] | sphery: | autojack: for ALSA, if you use ALSA:default for the audio output device, the mixer device is technically, default (no "ALSA:"), but Myth will ignore "ALSA:" if some unsuspecting user puts it there |
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| [22:45:08] | autojack: | oops |
| [22:45:16] | autojack: | yeah I just realized why I was never finding that suggestion. |
| [22:45:27] | autojack: | I don't use my setup to watch TV, I only use it for music and playing back downloaded video. |
| [22:46:00] | autojack: | playing back video the volume control is in mplayer, and obviously works. |
| [22:46:12] | clever_: | ive had mplayer screw up the same way:P |
| [22:46:23] | autojack: | if I had just searched for "volume control doensn't work" I probably would have found info about the mixer setting. |
| [22:46:25] | autojack: | oh well |
| [22:46:27] | autojack: | yay |
| [22:46:29] | autojack: | thanks :) |
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| [22:47:26] | iamlindoro: | sphery: So the new thing to crop up in my rebuild is that my motherboard refuses recognize more than 10 HDDs, so I'm going to have to take some to the upstrais PC, rebuild the RAID, and copy them to the new RAID over the network. Yay! |
| [22:47:59] | autojack: | 10 HDDs? yeesh man. |
| [22:48:12] | sphery: | iamlindoro: any idea why? hardware or software? |
| [22:48:20] | clever_: | and i thought packing my mobo to its limit of FOUR was overboard:P |
| [22:48:31] | sphery: | autojack: when you're actually using the TV part of Myth, HDD's are your friends |
| [22:48:46] | iamlindoro: | sphery: I think it's BIOS related-- BIOS HDD priorities become EXTREMELY confused at 10 |
| [22:49:03] | iamlindoro: | A BIOS update might fix it, but without a FDD or a windows/DOS disk, this is the faster fix |
| [22:49:11] | iamlindoro: | (and cheaper ;) ) |
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| [22:50:52] | sphery: | iamlindoro: too bad. I really wish FOSS BIOS was more easily possible |
| [22:51:38] | iamlindoro: | Yeah. Sigh. Well, I'll admit this is the first time I've ever had *near* this many drives in one machine at home, so w/ any luck it won't be something I'll do often |
| [22:52:03] | sphery: | clever_: what would surprise me is if your linking were normal ;) |
| [22:52:25] | iamlindoro: | sort of renders moot the whole "my case has 19 drive bays" thing ;) |
| [22:52:43] | clever_: | sphery: i think that its 'normal' for everybody to be linking X11 libs into stuff that has nothing to do with gui |
| [22:52:52] | clever_: | sphery: it seems like a defect in the Makefiles |
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| [22:56:45] | iamlindoro: | and with that, he walked off into the sunset |
| [22:57:06] | iamlindoro: | no, I never knew that peculiar stranger's name, but to this day, people talk... the tell... |
| [22:57:10] | iamlindoro: | the legend of clever. |
| [22:57:16] | iamlindoro: | s/the/they/ |
| [22:57:32] | clever_: | that was my clone:P |
| [22:57:43] | clever_ is now known as clever | |
| [22:58:13] | iamlindoro: | leave that stuff for the sequel |
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| [22:59:48] | ab0oo: | anyone had any luck with an HVR-1800? I'm going on 18+ hours of total frustration. |
| [23:01:01] | badkitty: | clever: we test the cable with another tv, and it works so its not a cable signal issue |
| [23:01:17] | sphery: | badkitty: analog or digital? |
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| [23:01:25] | iamlindoro: | It *does* work in linux, but have heard somes tuff to the effect of it won't work quite right with myth. return it and get a 1600, that will work with Myth fine |
| [23:01:38] | sphery: | Hmmm. GFoxx. Guess he lost his rey |
| [23:01:59] | ab0oo: | iamlindoro, was that to me? I'm _SO_ close. |
| [23:02:08] | badkitty: | sphery: Its dish |
| [23:02:18] | iamlindoro: | ab0oo: yes, that is to you-- but you won't bet getting it working properly in myth without writing new code to support it |
| [23:02:27] | ab0oo: | unfortunately, I need the PCIe formfactor |
| [23:02:29] | sphery: | badkitty: using PVR-x50's with S-Video or composite input, right? |
| [23:02:39] | ab0oo: | o/w I'm deep into $$ for a new mobo/case/etc |
| [23:02:50] | badkitty: | sphery: No Were are using the coax input |
| [23:03:14] | badkitty: | But yes PVR150 |
| [23:03:21] | ** sphery just got a brand new mobo/CPU/RAM for his frontend and decided it was easier to replace the POS mobo with another brand new mobo... ** | |
| [23:03:33] | sphery: | badkitty: why not composite/S-Video? |
| [23:03:37] | badkitty: | sphery: ECS?? |
| [23:03:46] | sphery: | no, Biostar |
| [23:03:53] | badkitty: | sphery: Don't have the cable ATM |
| [23:04:41] | sphery: | badkitty: to do coax, you have to use a part of Myth that rumor had it (back in the 0.18 days) does not work. No one (in their right mind--sorry, didn't just say that) is using coax output from STB's, so it's never been tested/fixed if that's the case |
| [23:05:22] | badkitty: | interesting ... |
| [23:05:57] | sphery: | badkitty: so, my recommendation is to disable the pre-tune channel (whatever it's called--it's the part that may not work) and create an external channel change script |
| [23:06:00] | badkitty: | I'll try a different input |
| [23:06:41] | ** iamlindoro looks at the stack of bare drives on his desk madly churning away and feels a little like clever ** | |
| [23:06:51] | badkitty: | I do have an external channel change script.. whether its configured properly is another case.. I just want to see a picture atleast even if I cant change the channel ... |
| [23:06:56] | sphery: | the external channel change script should send the LIRC signal to change the channel on the STB, then tune the PVR-x50 to channel 3 (or 4--whatever the STB is set to use) with ivtvtune (or whatever it's called) |
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| [23:07:28] | sphery: | badkitty: but, S-Video or Composite is a /whole/ lot easier and a /whole/ lot better quality |
| [23:07:52] | clever: | sphery: if your using ivtvtune then why does a 'preset tuner to channel x' option even exist in mythtv-setup? |
| [23:07:58] | badkitty: | Yeah I downloaded a script and followed a guide .. which didn't help too much because the confis were very different |
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| [23:08:21] | sphery: | clever: because that's how it's supposed to work (but rumor has it that preset doesn't work) |
| [23:08:28] | clever: | ahh |
| [23:08:37] | sphery: | I have no interest in wasting my time testing it because coax output from an STB is a waste |
| [23:08:49] | iamlindoro: | There are a number of situations where it would be useful-- for example, if you were doing myth in a small hotel and you always wanted to start on a local announcements channel, it would be kinda nice. |
| [23:08:50] | clever: | my coax tuner in the pvr is poor quality, last i checked |
| [23:08:56] | clever: | so i dont even use the coax input for anything |
| [23:09:08] | sphery: | iamlindoro: no, it disables any real tuning |
| [23:09:19] | iamlindoro: | sphery: ah, nm then |
| [23:09:27] | clever: | iamlindoro: its to set the pvr-150 to channel 3 and call a external script |
| [23:09:37] | clever: | so you tune to whatever channel the external box is outputing |
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| [23:09:49] | sphery: | iamlindoro: it /always/ (every channel change) changes the channel to the preset channel, then relies on the external script to set the STB to the desired channel (when it worked, it did, anyway) |
| [23:09:56] | iamlindoro: | ah well, let's all just agree that RF out is dumb. |
| [23:10:08] | sphery: | Big yes! |
| [23:10:17] | clever: | yes |
| [23:10:18] | badkitty: | haha |
| [23:10:30] | sphery: | badkitty: you really don't have a composite or S-Video cable hanging around somewhere? |
| [23:10:36] | iamlindoro: | And that evil will always triumph over good because good is dumb |
| [23:10:42] | sphery: | unplug your VCR or some other 1980's equipment, perhaps... |
| [23:10:51] | clever: | sphery: i often use RCA audio lines for the composite video |
| [23:11:01] | badkitty: | Gonna look. Actually .. it's my buddies setup and Im trying to help him remotely ... |
| [23:11:17] | sphery: | clever: probably good enough in a pinch (like for badkitty :) |
| [23:11:31] | sphery: | Oh, so, perhaps he should look. :) |
| [23:11:31] | clever: | sphery: i ran my setup like that for months |
| [23:11:41] | clever: | and my tvout is STILL going thru over 10 feet of audio line |
| [23:12:44] | badkitty: | we have a cable! |
| [23:12:46] | clever: | currently im running at double the mpeg2 bitrate(2gig/hour) with a proper composite video wire(yellow one) and now the quality is high enough to see some rf noise instead of mpeg blocks |
| [23:13:13] | badkitty: | clever hehe |
| [23:13:56] | sphery: | When I did SDTV, I went for small filesize because NTSC quality is so bad, regardless. |
| [23:14:44] | sphery: | The change to HDTV was huge for me (from 1.15GB/hr SDTV to actually pretty video) |
| [23:14:53] | clever: | sphery: i still plan to compress these later with mythtranscode, but now im actualy maxing out the quality instead of making it worse right away |
| [23:15:32] | badkitty: | Does this seem wrong: remote_name = "mceusb"; |
| [23:15:32] | badkitty: | This is from my change-channel-lirc.pl |
| [23:15:45] | ab0oo: | iamlindoro, so, if I'm going to ditch the -1800, you think the 1600 is the right move? |
| [23:15:55] | ab0oo: | I'll lose my PVR-250 if I do that. |
| [23:16:15] | iamlindoro: | ab0oo: Of the current gen, yes-- identical to the 1800 except for interface |
| [23:16:21] | ab0oo: | and have a lonely PCIe slot. |
| [23:16:29] | iamlindoro: | and the 1600 is part of ivtv so myth works properly with it |
| [23:16:46] | ab0oo: | do you get the feeling that hauppauge is going to abandon the -1800 in favor of the new 2250? |
| [23:16:55] | iamlindoro: | whereas the 1800 fails to obey certain ivtv fuctions myth relies on, making it choke if you want to, say, watch more than one channel |
| [23:16:57] | ab0oo: | http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hvr2250.html |
| [23:17:11] | iamlindoro: | I doubt that they'll abandon it, but the 2250 is going to be nice |
| [23:17:32] | iamlindoro: | I think there's going to be a market of plain ol' PCI for a while yet |
| [23:17:35] | ab0oo: | they make NO mention of Linux on the 2250 oooh and ahhh page. |
| [23:17:44] | iamlindoro: | they never do until the driver is written |
| [23:18:07] | ab0oo: | "they never do UNLESS the driver is written" FTFY |
| [23:18:13] | iamlindoro: | though make no mistake, there *will* be a linux driver |
| [23:18:25] | iamlindoro: | There always is for Hauppauge stuff |
| [23:18:31] | ab0oo: | am I foolish to stick with Hauppauge vs the pcHDTV guys? |
| [23:18:36] | iamlindoro: | given multiple hauppauge engineers are linuxtv devs |
| [23:19:00] | iamlindoro: | No, you're not foolish, both are quite good and Hauppauge analog blows away pchdtv, since those are just framegrabbers |
| [23:20:31] | ab0oo: | It should be a trivial event to exchange the 1800 for the 1600 tomorrow. |
| [23:20:54] | sphery: | clever: yeah, that makes sense for stuff you're keeping. I delete everything, though, so quality wasn't much of a concern. |
| [23:20:57] | iamlindoro: | There's also the nice plus of being able to go into a store and BUY a Hauppauge card, versus pchdtv :) |
| [23:21:19] | badkitty: | clever do you think the remote name sounds correct "mceusb" |
| [23:21:23] | clever: | sphery: i have it set to transcode 4 days after recording, which gives time to watch it in quality and/or delete |
| [23:21:26] | sphery: | badkitty: remote name should be defined in /etc/lircd.conf, so it can be anything at all |
| [23:21:46] | clever: | badkitty: that sounds more like a remote your trying to receive, not send |
| [23:21:50] | ab0oo: | it's a gamble for me, though... it's a 30 minute drive, and microcenter is reporting 1x HVR-1600 card in stock. |
| [23:22:08] | ab0oo: | given the state of their shelves... it could be tense |
| [23:22:08] | sphery: | clever: I watch nearly all of my TV >6mos after it airs (to figure out what to delete with prejudice when the network cancels shows) |
| [23:22:14] | badkitty: | sphery: Well that file makes a call to another conf which contained that name .. I saw instances where the nameof the remote was way longer and had _'s |
| [23:22:21] | iamlindoro: | Do they do will-call? I hate best-buy but that's a nice touch sometimes |
| [23:22:33] | ab0oo: | prolly. |
| [23:22:34] | iamlindoro: | ie being able to buy it online and having it waiting at will-call |
| [23:22:50] | sphery: | roger, will-call |
| [23:23:07] | ab0oo: | hmm, fry's has the 1600 for $30 cheaper. |
| [23:23:43] | iamlindoro: | sphery: I will never understand how you have the patience to wait through the whole season :) |
| [23:24:01] | clever: | i often cant even wait for the recording to finish:P |
| [23:24:03] | ab0oo: | you've never binge-watched an entire season of 24 in 2 days? |
| [23:24:28] | clever: | ab0oo: i do that all the time with shows i download but we mustnt speak of that topic here:P |
| [23:24:32] | badkitty: | 24 should take exactly 24 hours to watch..wth |
| [23:24:34] | ab0oo: | it saves you from the suspense and agony of waiting for a week to find out how Jack Bauer is going to unscrew the current screwed up situation |
| [23:24:46] | iamlindoro: | a season of 24 takes 18 hours to watch :) |
| [23:24:50] | clever: | badkitty: some people want this thing called 'sleep', i just skip it |
| [23:24:50] | iamlindoro: | true fact |
| [23:24:53] | ab0oo: | badkitty, only if you watch the (6 month old) commercials |
| [23:24:54] | badkitty: | oh k cool |
| [23:25:11] | ab0oo: | you can DOWNLOAD tv shows? Shocked... shocked I tell you |
| [23:25:50] | sphery: | iamlindoro: not so much patience as backlog ;) I got behind one season, and it provided a good way to watch TV without getting invested in shows that will be cancelled. :) |
| [23:26:19] | ab0oo: | sphery, I'm completely with you on that theory. If it wasn't good enough for the rest of the world, why bother with it. |
| [23:26:36] | iamlindoro: | yeah, fuck dogs like Firefly |
| [23:26:37] | sphery: | ab0oo: I did 10 seasons of Stargate SG-1 and 4 seasons of Stargate Atlantis on DVD with that approach. :) |
| [23:26:39] | iamlindoro: | those shows suck |
| [23:26:55] | ab0oo: | ok, the 1800 is coming out of the machine now. Thanks for the tips, guys. I'm dissapointed, but at least I have a plan now. |
| [23:27:26] | ab0oo: | and don't get me started on Joss Weadon.... |
| [23:27:33] | sphery: | iamlindoro: I agree that Firefly would have been something I would have missed. But, the post-cancellation antics and the talk of the movie would have caught my attention before deleting. |
| [23:27:42] | sphery: | Take Jericho, for example. |
| [23:27:47] | sphery: | Watched it because of the comeback. |
| [23:27:56] | iamlindoro: | I'm just hoping that the new farscape webisodes lead to MOAR |
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| [23:28:10] | sphery: | Have Back to You recorded and haven't deleted it because of the rumor that CBS may pick it up. |
| [23:28:46] | sphery: | maybe I should be farscape DVD's for my travel... (Ran out of good DVD's to watch on airplanes/at airports/in hotels.) |
| [23:28:52] | sphery: | s/be/buy/ |
| [23:29:41] | iamlindoro: | I'm sort of hoping for an eventual HD release, it was shot on 35mm |
| [23:30:24] | sphery: | That would be cool. |
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| [23:30:42] | sphery: | I'm looking forward to the day when the re-broadcast syndicated stuff starts to be in HD... |
| [23:31:56] | iamlindoro: | Maybe once the little local TV channels that do nothing but syndication go HD... That would be channel 6 here (or any MyTV *cough* "affiliate") |
| [23:32:14] | tank-man: | al bundy in HD? |
| [23:32:53] | iamlindoro: | Then it will become very obvious who cared about their shows... as the 35mm ones will go HD just fine, and all the BetaCAM shows will still... well... suck. |
| [23:33:22] | sphery: | iamlindoro: Yeah, MyTV got the short end of the stick in the WB/UPN->CW thing. CW took all the good shows, leaving nothing for MyTV. |
| [23:34:12] | sphery: | I just wish that they'd draw the Simpsons in high def. Guess it's too many dots to draw, though. |
| [23:34:26] | sphery: | (actually, widescreen would be cool) |
| [23:34:33] | iamlindoro: | heh |
| [23:34:52] | iamlindoro: | Next Futurama movie is coming to Blu-ray, interestingly |
| [23:35:19] | iamlindoro: | Kinda interested to see how/if it makes it any different |
| [23:35:41] | cesman: | iamlindoro: higher resolution ;) |
| [23:35:57] | iamlindoro: | har dee har har |
| [23:36:09] | cesman: | that time, I was trying to be funny ;) |
| [23:36:13] | tank-man: | leena will have 2 eyes |
| [23:36:22] | iamlindoro: | leela ;) |
| [23:36:24] | cesman: | lela |
| [23:36:30] | tank-man: | :) |
| [23:36:30] | iamlindoro: | toranga |
| [23:37:14] | cesman: | alazar will be back only, this time voiced my Ed O'Neil |
| [23:38:07] | iamlindoro: | My heart belongs to Morbo |
| [23:38:12] | iamlindoro: | urk |
| [23:38:18] | iamlindoro: | my heart belongs to HYPNOTOAD |
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| [23:39:31] | cesman: | all hail the hynotoad! |
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| [23:40:45] | nordle: | wow, theres like a billion people in here today, evening all. 12:40 am, second day without dvb-t. Today, borrowed old mans signal tester, can confirm that reception is 80–90% coming out of cable that goes into dvb-t card. But cant get a lock on a channel, only a couple of bbc channels and thats it. |
| [23:41:06] | iamlindoro: | sssh, here's here, everyone be silent! |
| [23:41:42] | iamlindoro: | er he's |
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| [23:44:57] | iamlindoro: | nordle: Are you able to lock outside of Myth, ie in scan from dvb-utils? If same results, then #linuxtv is almost certainly better equipped to help you out with that kind of thing |
| [23:46:21] | nordle: | iamlindoro: I've got a channels.conf which picked up 90 channels, so it looks to be good, but in myth I get about 4. |
| [23:46:54] | iamlindoro: | 90 via DVB-T??? |
| [23:47:05] | iamlindoro: | where in the world are there 90 teresstrial channels? |
| [23:47:28] | iamlindoro: | It was my understanding that you guys got max 20–30 via DVB-T |
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| [23:47:44] | janneg: | iamlindoro: maybe with radio channels |
| [23:47:52] | nordle: | radio + dupes |
| [23:47:57] | iamlindoro: | hmm, maybe so, good point |
| [23:48:30] | janneg: | we have in berlin ~30 tv and 15 radio channels |
| [23:48:32] | iamlindoro: | anyway, anything change in the laast few days, or is this spontaneous? ie, did it work perfectly for a long time? |
| [23:48:46] | nordle: | I moved 25 miles |
| [23:48:58] | iamlindoro: | ah. Well, that's a pretty likely culprit :) |
| [23:49:17] | nordle: | I deleted all channel data and started again |
| [23:49:58] | iamlindoro: | I wouldn't be too jazzed about a signal strength meter giving you an arbitrary number, btw-- 80–90 on a scale of *what* is the question you've got to ask yourself |
| [23:50:10] | nordle: | I've tried a "Full Scan" and an import from the channels.conf that I just created, same result. Can watch BBC1 and thats about it, nothing else will lock. |
| [23:50:21] | iamlindoro: | and some of the linux tuners have ntoably poorer signal sensitivity than their windows driver counterparts |
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| [23:50:51] | nordle: | I might try using xine and getting it to read my channels.conf and see what happens....if i can remember how. |
| [23:50:56] | iamlindoro: | I have a sneaking suspicion that the only solution will be stronger amplifaction and better aiming of your antenna |
| [23:51:21] | iamlindoro: | or you can use mplayer, copy the channels.conf into ~/.mplayer/ and run mplayer dvb://$somechannelnamefromchannelsconf |
| [23:52:06] | nordle: | I have far better reception here compared to my last place so I'd be surprised, signal meter nudging 90%, last place was lucky to see 60% |
| [23:52:15] | nordle: | ok cool, I'll try that, thanks. |
| [23:54:29] | RyeBrye: | I'm not quite ready to buy it yet... but how does this look for an HD-backend / frontend system? http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishD . . . mber=8211991 |
| [23:54:47] | RyeBrye: | I think I may have gone overboard on the mobo and video card |
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| [23:56:19] | iamlindoro: | RyeBrye: Looks like a nice setup |
| [23:56:43] | iamlindoro: | all should work really well w/ myth, and I don't think you went overboard, personally, but I kinda go a little overboard myself sometimes :) |
| [23:56:44] | nordle: | Looks good, maybe change the drive, Samsung Spinpoint are super quiet and extremely fast |
| [23:57:27] | RyeBrye: | Point taken. I'll look into that – I'm planning to RAID 0 the big drives for storage and have another drive I use for my system stuff that wont get thrashed as much |
| [23:58:54] | RyeBrye: | Is a 3.16 Core2Duo the right processor? I was thinking of a Core2 Quad with a slightly lower clockspeed (2.6 I think) – but wasn't sure if the HD playback was threaded enough to make use of the additional cores enough to make up for the drop in clock speed |
| [23:58:55] | iamlindoro: | RyeBrye: I actually JUST built a new array w/ the 1 TB version of that Seagate, and one of nine failed the instant I started the resync. Glad they have the good warranty! |
| [23:59:12] | nordle: | I have a WD, its a bit loud, but cant be arsed to replace. My Seagate is quiet, but slower compared to Samsung. |
| [23:59:24] | RyeBrye: | Wow. 9 of them in one RAID 0? |
| [23:59:46] | iamlindoro: | RyeBrye: I totally depends-- that will be more than enough for anything but the output of the Hauppauge HD-PVR, which is single threaded, and will only use one core-- but the linux multithread paradigm is going to totally shift in the next month or two with the new ffmpeg multithreading stuff coming |
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