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[00:21:23] De_Wr0ng: Is there a , "I really want to build a top of the line PVR but don't want to try and weed thru all of the confusing hardware options forever" list?
[00:21:52] ** De_Wr0ng takes a deep breath **
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[00:28:52] J-e-f-f-A: De_Wr0ng: If you're talking SD, then Hauppauge PVR-150 and PVR-500 are the best choice [hardware encoders], and Nvidia GFX. With HD it gets complex...
[00:29:46] De_Wr0ng: hmmmm
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[00:32:35] J-e-f-f-A: De_Wr0ng: With SD, nearly any computer would do if you had Hauppauge tuner(s) and Nvidia graphics. With HD, the biggest, baddest processor you can afford is recommended, and then the only guaranteed HD you can get is over-the-air [here in the states anyways...].
[00:33:31] De_Wr0ng: well, our only HD cable provider has 10 – 15 channels
[00:33:40] De_Wr0ng: here being Jamaica
[00:34:12] De_Wr0ng: so, HD is like :D here right now
[00:34:25] De_Wr0ng: so yes, HD would be an option
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[00:35:27] J-e-f-f-A: De_Wr0ng: Humm... If those HD channels aren't encrypted, you could tune them with Myth [and a HD tuner]. If they are, then you're probably out of luck.
[00:35:35] De_Wr0ng: but, I'd also like to store the kids flicks, have remote terminals from the PVR, etc
[00:35:59] De_Wr0ng: no, they are encrypted
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[00:39:52] gbee: J-e-f-f-A: what about the PVRHD
[00:41:30] J-e-f-f-A: gbee: Yeah, that's an option, but it's not cheap! ;-)
[00:42:56] gbee: true, but De_Wr0ng might just have money to burn ;)
[00:42:59] De_Wr0ng: let's pretend money is not an option
[00:44:59] gbee: not sure I'd be so quick to specify Nvidia over ATi either, but there is a long history of nvidia bias when it comes to linux and I'm not going to change overnight ;)
[00:45:26] ** J-e-f-f-A thinks ATI == Satan...  ;-) **
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[00:46:56] J-e-f-f-A: De_Wr0ng: Head over to http://www.hauppauge.com and check out the HD PVR then...
[00:47:17] De_Wr0ng: already there
[00:47:19] De_Wr0ng: ;)
[00:48:10] De_Wr0ng: too much chit to absorb with booze and the olympics
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[00:48:25] J-e-f-f-A: The myth support is still being worked on, and I belive you'd have to be running SVN for now...
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[01:20:09] my2keh: sssh
[01:26:39] david__: trying to run mythtv with dvb card getting a No Lock error
[01:29:24] justinh: hmmm. best course of action is usually to test a dvb tuner (or any other for that matter) outside of mythtv first
[01:30:39] david__: what prog to use?
[01:31:18] justinh: dvb-utils usually
[01:33:45] david__: thank you
[01:41:15] david__: know what the commands are?
[01:41:54] david__: found the how to
[01:42:23] mzb_d800: femon can come in handy
[01:43:27] my2keh: DVB-S?
[01:43:37] david__: correct
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[01:47:40] my2keh: are you getting signal via a set top box on it?
[01:47:45] my2keh: not the DVB-S card
[01:47:46] my2keh: but the sat
[01:47:51] my2keh: to ensure it's pointed to something?
[01:49:08] david__: yes signal is verified
[01:50:26] justinh: dvb-s in the USA? I smell illegals
[01:50:43] david__: europe
[02:00:11] my2keh: lol
[02:00:14] my2keh: illegals
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[03:31:42] Aval0n: hey guys
[03:31:47] Aval0n: I have a lot of slowness in my menus
[03:31:57] Aval0n: could any part of that be due the ext3 file system
[03:31:59] Aval0n: ?
[03:37:48] J-e-f-f-A: how fast is your cpu & how much memory?
[03:39:32] Aval0n: c2d 2.8ghz
[03:39:34] Aval0n: 2gb
[03:40:49] J-e-f-f-A: Aval0n: Well, I'd first run the frontend in a window, perhaps with 'mythfrontend -v most' to see what it says.,.
[03:41:11] J-e-f-f-A: ... Because that should be more than enough power/memory for quick menus.
[03:41:56] Aval0n: well
[03:42:01] Aval0n: the menus are ok
[03:42:04] Aval0n: it's the guide that's slow
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[03:44:52] styelz: Aval0n: try adjusting the Shading Method.. under Setup/TV Settings/Prog. Guide
[03:45:17] Aval0n: hmm k
[03:45:23] Aval0n: it's when I try to go up and down
[03:45:25] Aval0n: it lags a bit
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[03:47:41] styelz: mines a 2.4ghz with 1GB ram.. and its fine on Alpha
[03:48:19] styelz: doubt its that
[03:49:25] J-e-f-f-A: Yeah, if it's OSD, then styelz is on the right track... ;-)
[03:49:47] J-e-f-f-A: [you said 'menus
[03:49:51] J-e-f-f-A: at first...]
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[04:46:56] Clint`: hey the creative audigy 2 has a digital output port.. does anyone know what the name of that port is ?
[04:46:56] Clint`: http://images.tw.creative.com/images/corporat . . . 2ZS_Prod.jpg
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[05:13:29] mike3: Guys, I'm lost. I cat out /dev/video0 > blah .. What format is this video when doing it this way?
[05:14:43] GreyFoxx: I assume it's a pvr cards you are using ?
[05:14:49] GreyFoxx: If so then mpeg2
[05:14:50] Lynet: mike3: Kinda depends on what format the physical device delivers. Usually some kind of mpeg2-stream.
[05:15:16] mike3: it's from the rca on a PVR-150
[05:15:23] GreyFoxx: It's really only a valid test if you are using a pvr 250/150/500/350
[05:15:26] GreyFoxx: ok then it's mpeg2
[05:15:41] mike3: what should the extension be then
[05:15:45] GreyFoxx: .mpg
[05:16:01] mike3: man, why the hell can't I open this from any of my windows systems.. It's pissing me off
[05:16:42] GreyFoxx: I assume you have verified that's there actual data in the file? It's not just 0 bytes in size ?
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[05:17:06] mike3: yes.. i can play it
[05:17:09] GreyFoxx: fyi, windows out of the box will not play mpeg2 content
[05:17:17] GreyFoxx: it requires a codec to be install
[05:17:18] mike3: windows is garbage
[05:17:18] GreyFoxx: ed
[05:17:19] mike3: :)
[05:17:26] GreyFoxx: or us a player like vlc
[05:17:52] mike3: mplayer plays it fine. I'm transfering it over to a windows box because windows has better video software then linux.
[05:18:04] GreyFoxx: hmmm 2:17am.... looks like a perfect time for a myth upgrade
[05:18:14] GreyFoxx: or I should say, update
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[07:58:25] dustybin: on my mac os x laptop, i can put my laptop into 'sleep' mode, im sure i could do the same with a linux box, how much power would i actually save using sleep mode? would this mode be ideal for a frontend what says on 24.7 when not in use?
[07:59:07] dustybin: or should i really just switch it off and boot it up when required using a netboot or something?
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[08:30:14] blackest: is it a laptop ?
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[10:25:43] kyle__: any one home?
[10:26:15] kyle__: i have some mythtv questins
[10:26:18] kyle__: questions*
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[10:27:10] kyle__: any one available?
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[10:34:16] justinh: hahahaha
[10:34:27] justinh: just ask, O impatient one
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[10:35:45] justinh: dustybin: the lowest power mode you can get is OFF – and if you only have to wait <> 30 secs for a frontend to boot up, so what?
[10:36:25] justinh: I've yet to see a STB PVR which can boot up that fast anyway
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[10:37:06] AndyCap: justinh: most likely because they are linux boxes. :P
[10:37:38] justinh: yeah but, linux with something on top, then the actual provider app on top :P
[10:37:50] justinh: or worse, vxworks
[10:39:26] justinh: I've not been up long this morning but my day has been made: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/07/poor_ . . . am_rich_app/
[10:41:55] AndyCap: so, dorko presses buy, and complainis when he bought something.
[10:44:02] justinh: I think I was in the wrong game the whole time – I mean instead of giving weeks of hard work away for FREE I could've been selling $1000 icons
[10:44:34] AndyCap: in the mythtv appstore?
[10:44:56] AndyCap: and you just need to sell one to be better off.
[10:45:20] justinh: I was thinking more just taking advantage of idiots with expensive toys
[10:50:15] justinh: evil thoughts. must stop. sometime
[10:50:44] gbee: "buy an icon a week, each unique image builds into a complete theme. Start your collection now for just £3.99*" "(*normal price per icon £10)"
[10:50:59] justinh: hahaha
[10:52:15] justinh: oh, what a surprise. downgrading my laptop's OS has resulted in a 50% battery life increase
[10:53:13] justinh: and wait for it – I never thought I'd ever say this... what a relief it was to see a familiar OS when I got it working – even considering what it is
[10:58:24] gbee: anyone up for re-writing the menu theme of everything in svn?
[10:58:37] justinh: how do you mean?
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[10:58:55] justinh: just making em mythui compliant?
[10:59:36] justinh: go on then. you twisted my arm
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[11:00:14] gbee: yeah, I'm changing the format of theme.xml (now menu-ui.xml)
[11:00:49] gbee: guess some of it can be done with search/replace
[11:03:43] gbee: I'll do another one myself first as a demo, maybe minimalist since that uses horizontal layout with center scrolling
[11:04:25] justinh: now I've got some bleddy hdd space on my laptop I could put a linux on there
[11:04:55] justinh: a few programs & the OS was taking up 40GB of a 50GB partition ffs
[11:06:42] justinh: saw the -dev list post about the mythui port – the comment about parts of core themes being missing was wide of the mark IMHO – I thought playback-video was always superfluous
[11:08:02] justinh: oh right, hey let's have two of every screen defined rather than use contexts :) yeah it's alright for them they don't have to keep stuff up to date
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[11:10:47] gbee: hope to make some of that stuff disappear
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[11:15:07] justinh: come to think about it, I remember having a look at putting a context bit into ui.xml for those but got majorly confuzszled when it came to the headers
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[11:45:58] gbee: hmm, can't use centre scrolling with minimalist, it displays an even number of icons on screen
[12:32:58] gbee: isn't the dev list closed to non-subcribers?
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[12:57:55] janneg: gbee: it is
[12:59:28] gbee: wondering why I keep getting spam, looking at the headers it's coming from mythtv-dev-bounces@mythtv.org
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[13:36:10] mzb_d800: slave to your master? ;)
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[13:37:39] ajh: Is there any faster way to delete things? If I want to remove all of a certain show it takes forever and way way too much user interaction.
[13:37:53] ajh: Some kind of checkbox and bulk action somewhere in mythweb I'm not finding?
[13:37:58] mzb_d800: rm -rf /my/recordings ? ;)
[13:38:33] ajh: Computers tend to be very good at tedious repetetive activities, no sense making the user do the same.
[13:39:34] mzb_d800: :)
[13:39:53] mzb_d800: sorry, couldn't come up with a real answer
[13:40:09] ajh: I'm just migrating things off the an h.264 video server, so converting but then want to remove the old ones.
[13:40:27] mzb_d800: can you add recordings to a playlist and then delete them?
[13:40:51] ajh: Possibly, but I'm generally working from mythweb since I'm at a desk vs the tv.
[13:41:08] ajh: I should try that, I've never actually used playlist options, they didn't seem to save much work though.
[13:41:49] ajh: Still have to deal with multiple selects and waiting between them, I just want to be able to checkbox a bunch of stuff and do an action on it, one of the oldest UI optimizations :)
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[13:42:28] ajh: If someone looked at say how Zimbra does their webmail, that kinda UI on mythweb and you wouldn't need a frontend at all :)
[13:43:16] ajh: Oooh, come to think of it, anyone done a script to export upcoming recordings in .ics?
[13:44:04] ajh: Would be nice to see what's coming up on your calendar.
[13:44:20] ajh: Yay, convergence. :)
[13:47:01] mzb_d800: :)
[13:47:39] ajh: Anyone working on an iphone streaming server? :)
[13:49:41] rooaus: ajh: You can delete all recordings in a playlist in the frontend. Also see http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5371
[13:50:23] ajh: rooaus, yes but to add them all to a playlist is tedious, being able ot delete all in a group would be much more useful since you can put them in groups when you record.
[13:50:54] ajh: If you need to click through them all anyway it really isn't saving time.
[13:52:18] rooaus: Just add the recording group to the playlist. :)
[13:52:31] ajh: Can you do that? :)
[13:52:52] ajh: Still not ideal though since I'm copying by creating named links and scping those off, which is group agnostic.
[13:53:11] ajh: If I could get mytharchive to actually do what I wanted I'd probably be good. :)
[13:53:26] rooaus: yep, from memory you need to have the recording group selected, not a recording to see the option.
[13:54:00] ajh: As long as the idea is out there it has a chance of happening though, that's the beauty of free software, continual evolution.
[13:54:31] ajh: Doing mythweb with a rich interface would be really neat though, drag and drop etc.
[13:55:08] mzb_d800: if that's the case, you can create a search, show searches in the programme list => select the search, add to playlist and delete all selected
[13:55:11] mzb_d800: right?
[13:55:19] ajh: Though I think I figured out a way to use multiple USB h.264 keys.
[13:55:30] ajh: Ah, that would make sense.
[13:56:02] ajh: If I can get this box doing 8 concurrent mpeg2ts->h.264's I'll be happy. :)
[13:56:21] ajh: de-interlaced h.264 looks so much nicer on playback.
[13:56:36] ajh: realtime de-interlacing just isn't there yet on our hardware.
[13:57:05] ajh: If I had the space I'd pre-scale as well, but then you never know what the native resolution of your next display is.
[13:57:30] ajh: Thanks though, I'll try the search open!
[13:57:33] ajh: er, option!
[13:57:56] mzb_d800: only a guess on my part ... not prepared to delete|try anything like that myself ;)
[13:58:21] ajh: Well, it's always an experiment :)
[13:58:39] ajh: I'm just happy I haven't trashed mysql in weeks. :)
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[14:27:39] gbee: justinh: button def inheritance – http://pastebin.ca/1096932
[14:28:26] gbee: I'm trying to sell the benefits because I don't think the new format is going to be popular ..
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[14:57:05] sebrock: Need help on the theme creating again, can't find which field holds the music list in MythMusic... typically about 10 songs with scrolling etc...
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[15:09:33] justinh: sebrock: musicselector
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[15:09:49] justinh: that's the container
[15:10:14] justinh: <managedtreelist name="musictreelist" draworder="1" bins="3"> is the actual list IIRC
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[15:11:06] justinh: gbee: as far as I'm concerned, go ahead. I'm the only person who'd whine about it anyway :P
[15:11:48] justinh: since so much is going to be broken anyway, what's a few more things between friends? ;)
[15:11:49] gbee: it's worse if you are using icons instead of watermarks – or in addition to them
[15:12:10] gbee: IIRC all your themes use watermarks, so it's not so bad
[15:12:35] gbee: might actually be better than what we've got now
[15:12:59] sebrock: justinh, thanks. I'm looking to move the titles of the music a bit to the right...
[15:13:03] justinh: I could never be arsed with unique buttons per menu item & I don't suppose that will ever change
[15:13:45] justinh: anyway, I'm all for potential time & effort saving
[15:14:56] justinh: besides, all the other theme people – they've got er.. one theme to maintain so it's not so bad
[15:15:10] gbee: I'd really like to reduce the number of buttons, way too many
[15:15:34] gbee: do we really need menu entries for each different view in mythvideo for example?
[15:15:45] justinh: are there?
[15:15:47] justinh: :-O
[15:15:54] sebrock: what are these bins in musictree?
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[15:16:03] sebrock: ah right nevermind
[15:16:18] justinh: ahh you realised it's not rocket science ;)
[15:16:40] gbee: not yet anyway
[15:17:00] justinh: sebrock: bear in mind there's a chance a lot of what you're doing now will be obsolete before too long
[15:17:14] justinh: but it's probably worth sticking with it
[15:17:16] sebrock: well I dont find all the names very consistent... Im not using the managed tree mode, All I have is maybe 10 songs in a scroll list. But I cant find the container for where the text is
[15:17:26] sebrock: justinh, is that so? total redesign?
[15:17:36] justinh: ah the single list view is a different container
[15:18:01] gbee: total redesign and if I get time mythmusic will be an even more complete re-write
[15:18:22] ajh: and yes, they've dropped their prices dramatically.
[15:18:30] ajh: oops :)
[15:18:50] justinh: hrm. my theme-fu is a little rusty
[15:19:09] sebrock: All I find is these bins... I use the view without the tree.
[15:20:44] justinh: right, IIRC the area the single list lives in is governed by the first area definition inside the musictreelist managedtreelist
[15:21:19] justinh: one of the music-ui.xml files has plenty of comments which always helps remind me ;)
[15:21:56] justinh: stuff like "regular area, but is only used if the user has ShowWholeTree set to false."
[15:22:33] justinh: I only ever use the single list view. can't stand managedtreelists one bit
[15:22:58] justinh: not only because of how they treat my selection bar graphic but that's a big factor :P
[15:23:45] sebrock: so moving the list a bit to the right is this what I need to change: <area>32,0,1200,296</area>
[15:23:56] justinh: yep, I think so
[15:24:05] sebrock: I'll give it a try
[15:24:06] sebrock: thanks
[15:24:43] justinh: btw if you intend your theme to go on general release try to pay attention to a 5% border around the screen edges
[15:25:14] justinh: I always did that whenever I could but it's not always possible to AND get everything onscreen
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[15:25:36] justinh: even HDTVs overscan some ;)
[15:26:38] justinh: whoah gbee just scrolled down the pastebin. Excellent!
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[15:27:14] sebrock: no, it didnt move :(
[15:28:35] justinh: you did go out of mythmusic & back in...
[15:28:43] sebrock: oh yeah
[15:28:49] sebrock: even deleted cache
[15:29:32] justinh: lemme have a look
[15:30:21] sebrock: god bless
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[15:31:26] justinh: http://pastebin.ca/1097002
[15:31:47] justinh: I just changed a number from 50 to 150 & the list moved to the right
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[15:38:37] gbee: justinh: for metallurgy I'm thinking of splitting the button background from the icon and then overlaying – instantly halving the number of images without changing the look
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[15:39:37] justinh: gbee: yeah I could save vast amounts of resources in glass-wide. one common watermark background :)
[15:39:42] sebrock: justinh, I see what I was looking at. Now it has moved, but of cause the selection bar with it. That was my point of reference :D. I need to move the selectbar back to where it was. Right now text and bar starts at the exact same pixle... not very nice looking
[15:39:51] justinh: makes making changes much easier
[15:40:10] justinh: sebrock: you don't get much say in where the selection bar goes
[15:40:49] sebrock: so selectionbar and text are always started at the same pixle?
[15:41:01] justinh: <image function="selectionbar" filename="shared/selectbar.png" location="-10,-1"></image> can be ok for some things but it doesn't always follow
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[15:41:18] sebrock: I noticed :D
[15:41:24] sebrock: does nothing
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[15:42:33] justinh: welcome to theming!
[15:42:41] sebrock: haha :D
[15:42:52] justinh: or as I used to call it, Banging Your Head Against A Wall 101
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[15:43:27] justinh: eventually you'll get to the point where you really respect what other themers have done :P
[15:44:13] sebrock: I am there right now in fact
[15:44:45] sebrock: Im having a hard time just changing others... god It must really take ages to do from scratch
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[15:46:13] justinh: pixel perfection is EVERYTHING :D
[15:47:11] sebrock: you said it man
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[16:00:02] sebrock: another strange thing is that the fill-thing in OSD, the bar showing buffer or timeline is showing different when watching TV or using internal player... with internal player this bar is moved one pixle to the right and one up
[16:02:46] ajh: so, anyone working on an ipod touch or iphone remote app?
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[16:02:50] justinh: they're different entities, that's why ;)
[16:03:04] ajh: Would make the nicest touch remote out there for less than most of the others.
[16:03:06] justinh: ajh: there's mythmote on the iphone store now
[16:03:26] ajh: Oh, good, I wish they had 'what's new since' on there.
[16:03:31] ajh: It look any good?
[16:03:39] justinh: don't care
[16:03:54] justinh: check it out for yourself
[16:04:01] ajh: Yep, looking.
[16:04:36] ajh: 2 different ones now.
[16:05:44] ajh: Now if only they'd put inductive charging into this platform.
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[16:08:14] justinh: if only. if only. it's always with the 'if only'
[16:08:27] justinh: if only they gave them away in boxes of cornflakes!
[16:08:29] mzb_d800: perpetual motion engine would be better wouldn't it? ;)
[16:08:40] ajh: Well, the technology has been out for awhile, even in that form factor.
[16:09:00] justinh: yeah but the thing is, it's pretty inefficient
[16:09:13] justinh: and inductors can be heavy & take up room
[16:09:16] ajh: As long as overnight it charges it enough for the day.
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[16:09:38] ajh: yes, I know.. a dock it is for now..
[16:10:43] justinh: still, never looked at it as being cheaper than those daft Krustytron branded touch screen remotes ;)
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[16:11:44] sebrock: justinh, yes I know.. but it doesnt look very good with the bar not showing correct
[16:12:55] ajh: Going to try those USB h.264 encoding sticks, I figure if I put 6 of them in the box, run vmware each with a macos in it and one stream compressor on each it should be pretty quick.
[16:15:09] ajh: at the worst should show how good the vmware usb stack is :)
[16:15:28] ** justinh posts that one to www.halfbakery.com **
[16:15:51] ajh: Oh come on, why wouldn't it work?
[16:16:05] ajh: They claim an 8x improvement in encoding speed.
[16:16:22] ajh: I'll try 2 to start and see if it works anyway.
[16:17:16] ajh: Still want to work on my overlay FUSE media filesystem idea though, where you can store multiple versions of the same file for different purposes under the same name.
[16:18:19] ajh: So you can do things like keep the lossless and lossy encoded versions, and things like unscaled and scaled.
[16:18:53] ajh: Perhaps I'll get time to write that paper this year.
[16:19:35] ajh: Mostly the original idea was so you could keep thumbnails, jpegs and raw versions of photos without needing to have a ton of file references visible to the user.
[16:19:53] ajh: When you generated the other versions it would just cache them.
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[16:25:54] ajh: Nobody's been able to poke too many holes in the idea so far, with disc being so cheap and conversion costs being so high it seems to make sense.
[16:26:21] ajh: That and it takes some of the complexity out of the application, since right now they each need to implement something similar.
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[17:29:16] my2keh: where's a good spot to find myth themes?
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[17:33:16] justinh: the wiki
[17:33:29] justinh: at least you'll find out which ones there are & where to get em
[17:34:52] my2keh: hmm it doesn't say how to install thmm
[17:35:32] justinh: instructions come with most themes
[17:35:58] justinh: if not, just unpack them to /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes or /usr/share/mythtv/themes
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[17:36:45] my2keh: ah just copy to usr/share/mythtv/themes
[17:36:46] my2keh: heh
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[17:38:49] justinh: ffs anybody ever seen a mediaportal skin in bits? :-O http://svn.chipx86.com/trunk/gaea/mediaportal/skins/Nonafo/
[17:38:54] justinh: HOW MANY xml files?
[17:39:09] my2keh: woah
[17:39:16] my2keh: now i can't see my text lol
[17:39:32] justinh: you need msttcorefonts
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[17:40:15] my2keh: ah
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[17:41:37] justinh: and :-O again! http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-360680.html porting mediaportal to linux? WHAT?!
[17:43:20] laga: what did you google? "bad ideas +HTPC"?
[17:43:45] justinh: looks like it wasn't an official effort & died on its own
[17:44:17] justinh: there's a slight snag in that MP is written in .net :D
[17:44:32] justinh: so porting it would really mean re-writing it all
[17:45:02] laga: there's still mono. but if they use windows API a lot it's going to suck
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[17:45:16] Dagmar: Actually, it would probably run under Mono
[17:46:03] laga: unless it's a mixed mode app
[17:46:09] justinh: well, if the slowness on a native windows box is anything to go by... nope
[17:46:11] laga: that whole concept is.. weird
[17:46:38] justinh: people get so hung up on eyecandy it's ridiculous. that's what started it
[17:47:08] justinh: it's no more logical or anything – it just has jerky & slow animations
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[17:56:34] XLV: justinh got that asus p5gc i linked some weeks back?
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[17:57:54] XLV: justinh i am thinking of getting it.. problem is i got a e6320 and i'd have to oc it to ~2.5Ghz so it means ~350MHz fsb... but i am getting a scythe shuriken cooler, hope mb manages it.. or else got to spend yet more to get an e6600 or 6700
[17:58:30] XLV: and its such an obscure board, i cant find any reviews on it, how it handles oc
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[18:43:26] blackest: anyone not know that you don't put washing up liquid in a dishwasher
[18:43:26] blackest: i have an idiot in my house
[18:43:26] blackest: and its not me
[18:45:53] clivesay: hi, everyone. This may be a common question but maybe I'm not searching for it correctly. I am watching TV and can hit the 'R" key to record. I don't have channels setup in mythtv because I am using a local carrier that is not something like directv or dishnetwork. When I go into manual record, I can only get the option "Do not record this program". Can anyone give me some hints or point me in the right direction.
[18:45:54] clivesay: Thanks
[18:46:21] clivesay: front and backend on the same machine
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[18:49:11] Dagmar: You're basically screwed.
[18:49:26] clivesay: lol, that's encouraging :-)
[18:49:43] Dagmar: Pressing 'r' to record sets the thing to "being recorded"
[18:49:54] Dagmar: If you want it to record a block of time, you can't do it from within liveTV.
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[18:50:09] clivesay: right, and that's ok. Just times I would like to schedule
[18:50:17] Dagmar: Now, "being recorded" is maybe not so useful because it's liveTV, it's already being recorded.
[18:51:09] clivesay: but what if I stop watching live and want to schedule a recording? That's what I am trying to do
[18:51:48] clivesay: I go into Manual Schedule, set the time and give it a name then go into Set Recording Options
[18:52:15] clivesay: Select recording Schedule isn't giving me any options
[18:52:47] clivesay: is that only good if I have channels setup?
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[18:55:43] clivesay: guess if I wanted to get geeky with it I could set a do a "cat /dev/video0" and set it with a cron job :-)
[19:00:29] Dagmar: Then you couldn't watch TV.
[19:00:37] clivesay: right
[19:00:55] clivesay: or maybe I could if I open the file being created
[19:01:01] clivesay: would just be delayed
[19:01:05] Dagmar: Or you could add a phony channel.
[19:01:24] Dagmar: I'm suprised it's even letting you watch the inputs without any channels defined.
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[19:29:14] damian666: hi folks, is it possible to tell mythtv only to deinterlace dvb-streams only if they are interlaced ?? cause i tried some settings on progressive hd material and with interlacer enabled there is about +20% usage on one cpu ( is it maybe just the overhead for detecting progressive material)?
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[20:19:29] my2keh: anyone here use the canned searches in mythweb?
[20:21:59] ** J-e-f-f-A_ doesn't like hardly anything canned... ;-) **
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[20:22:12] my2keh: lol
[20:22:30] my2keh: well I'm trying to easily look trhough all the movies
[20:22:34] my2keh: or all HD programming
[20:22:53] my2keh: but none of those searches return anything
[20:22:54] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: I just key in what I'm looking for, and hit search... ;-)
[20:23:17] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: Do you have HD sources? If not, the HD search isn't going to return anything...
[20:23:34] my2keh: Like Category: Movies?
[20:24:18] my2keh: err rather Movie, not movies
[20:24:31] my2keh: i do that and mhy apache goes for a dump
[20:25:08] my2keh: ahh memory size for PHP
[20:25:10] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: When you view the listings [the channel guide], are your programs color-coded?
[20:25:16] my2keh: Yup
[20:26:43] J-e-f-f-A: I'm doing a search on mine now... I'v got like 300 channels though, so this might take a bit... Even on an Athlon X2 4800+ ...
[20:27:27] my2keh: I've got 800
[20:27:30] my2keh: :P
[20:27:42] my2keh: [Sat Aug 09 16:27:21 2008] [error] [client 192.168.1.101] PHP Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 33554432 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 35 bytes) in
[20:27:44] my2keh: that's wierd
[20:28:00] J-e-f-f-A: canned movie search worked fine for me... lots of them... ;-)
[20:28:50] J-e-f-f-A: HD worked too... in just 3 seconds... ;-)
[20:29:23] my2keh: I just added ini_set("memory_limit", "100M"); to search.php
[20:29:33] my2keh: which seems to fix it
[20:29:41] my2keh: how many guide days do you have?
[20:29:48] J-e-f-f-A: 14
[20:29:59] my2keh: welll then
[20:29:59] my2keh: heh
[20:30:06] my2keh: now my IE is going for a dump
[20:30:21] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: IE?  ;-) Use Firefox... ;-)
[20:30:24] my2keh: it's at 150MB
[20:30:29] my2keh: ack, can't company laptop
[20:30:45] my2keh: perhaps I should limit my search to only a few days
[20:31:12] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: Sure you can... there's a version that runs on a U2-enabled flash drive...  ;-)
[20:31:18] my2keh: lol
[20:31:27] my2keh: it's wierd that there's no paging on the search results
[20:31:33] my2keh: there's hundreds of records returned
[20:32:04] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: The scroll bar doesn't work?
[20:32:17] my2keh: it'll work
[20:32:24] my2keh: I meant paging to limit the numbers of records returned
[20:33:26] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: No, don't think so. But it's open source, feel free to modify it...  ;-)
[20:33:51] my2keh: yeah I've messed around in there a little before
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[20:35:58] my2keh: i lowerd it to be be 32M and it seems to be better
[20:37:16] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: Is there a Micro Center around you? I think their flash drives are 'U2' enabled. You can d/l Firefox, Putty, and lots of apps to run on it. [assuming they didn't lock the USB ports too...]
[20:37:41] Dagmar: Kinda hard to find somewhere that doesn't have U2 drives now
[20:39:47] my2keh: i'll look for that
[20:39:55] my2keh: i may already have one
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[20:40:27] J-e-f-f-A: my2keh: It pops up an application when you insert the drive... [unless they disabled that too, it's probably 'autorun']
[20:40:36] J-e-f-f-A: ... oh well, he's gond... ;-)
[20:40:59] J-e-f-f-A: er.. 'gone' that is.... my fingers aren't awake yet apparently!  ;-)
[20:41:42] dustybin: you expect me to live? no mr bond i expect you to die.
[20:42:47] ** J-e-f-f-A heads outside to re-aim his sat dish and maybe trim a branch or two... ;-) **
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[20:44:08] dustybin: does every coax coming off a sat dish need its own tuner?
[20:44:24] dustybin: so if i wanted 2x tuners with freesat, id need 2 coaxes coming off the dish?
[20:44:28] Dagmar: The ones you want to watch do
[20:45:02] AndyCap: dustybin: or some unicable switches.
[20:45:08] dustybin: eek
[20:45:28] dustybin: i think id need a quad LNB?
[20:45:41] dustybin: then 2–4 DVB-S cards?
[20:45:59] AndyCap: depends what you mean by need.
[20:46:11] dustybin: well at the moment, im using a Nova-T dual tuner
[20:46:18] dustybin: which is ace
[20:46:43] dustybin: if i want to do the same thing with free sat in the UK id need a dual LNB
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[20:46:50] Smirnov: ahoy friends
[20:46:52] dustybin: and have 2x DVB-s cards
[20:47:04] J-e-f-f-A: dustybin: How many sats are you pointed at?
[20:47:09] dustybin: just 1
[20:47:10] dustybin: freesat
[20:47:22] Smirnov: i was wondering if anyone here has a suggestion for me.. my htpc has got dual monitors
[20:47:23] dustybin: 1 bird
[20:47:40] dustybin: but if i wanted to record say 2 things at the same time id need dual LNB
[20:47:50] J-e-f-f-A: dustybin: And a standard LNB? [not bandstacked]
[20:47:51] Smirnov: but whenever i turn off my receiver and turn on my htpc it will switch the primary monitor to the first monitor and then it wont detect my TV until after i reboot
[20:48:06] dustybin: J-e-f-f-A: yes standard
[20:48:09] Smirnov: is there some kind of dummy hdmi connector dealie i can do to make it think my receiver/tv is always on
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[20:48:55] J-e-f-f-A: Smirnov: You need to add a line to your xorg.conf to tell it to always assume a TV is connected then.
[20:49:16] AndyCap: Smirnov: at least nvidia driver has an option to force monitor detection
[20:49:22] J-e-f-f-A: dustybin: And it's a single LNB with two outputs, right, and just one cable now coming from it?
[20:49:27] Smirnov: J-e-f-f-A: hmm i dual boot into windows sometimes,any way to do this using a hardware solution maybe
[20:49:55] J-e-f-f-A: Smirnov: Perhaps... I don't know.
[20:49:57] AndyCap: Smirnov: dvi detective or something like that to cache EDID
[20:50:04] wagnerrp: U3, cant you just reformat those and trash the U3 partition?
[20:50:17] Dagmar: Nope.
[20:50:36] dustybin: J-e-f-f-A: yes, 1 LNB, 2 outputs, each output connected to a different DVB-S card, so i can record different channels at the same time etc
[20:50:46] Dagmar: Moving/changing the reserved filesystem isn't just a matter of using fdisk
[20:50:51] Smirnov: AndyCap: oy beautiful, that sounds ike what i needed
[20:51:16] J-e-f-f-A: dustybin: So if you're talking just 2 tuners, you just need an additional cable to go to the 2nd output on the LNB. If you want to go beyond 2, you'll need to add a switch.
[20:51:18] wagnerrp: ive multiple times refused to use a friend's flash drive as soon as that U3 shit popped up
[20:51:29] Smirnov: definitely a bit pricey though.. ill have to use the xorg option for my 2nd htpc which is linux only
[20:51:33] wagnerrp: just yanked the drive before it could continue installing
[20:51:48] AndyCap: wagnerrp: so why do you have autorun on cd enabled?
[20:51:58] dustybin: J-e-f-f-A: what about a LNB with 4 outputs?
[20:52:00] wagnerrp: too lazy to disable it
[20:52:20] Smirnov: J-e-f-f-A: if i force it, then it'll fix the problem where sometimes i need to reboot my computer to get the display to show up again?
[20:52:38] Smirnov: cause sometimes I have to restart X to get my display to come back
[20:52:46] J-e-f-f-A: dustybin: That would work... Assuming it's a single LNB with 4 outputs – in the US, the typical 4-port LNBs are dual ones for Dish network...
[20:53:10] J-e-f-f-A: Smirnov: It will fix it for Linux, but not winblows.  ;-)
[20:53:43] AndyCap: dustybin: also depends on what kind of outputs it has. some are for 4 tuners and some are for switches and output Horiz/Vert Hi/Lo on separate connectors. (Quad vs. Quattro)
[20:53:51] Smirnov: J-e-f-f-A: heh yeah i have my own htpc it runs mythtv only and my dads does not run linux only
[20:54:45] Smirnov: AndyCap: that dvi detective thing will work with hdcp right?
[20:55:04] AndyCap: Smirnov: no idea. i stay away from hdcp
[20:55:08] dustybin: ok, on my nova-t i can use that new feature, multi-rec, what gives me virtual 4 tuners, by recording channels off the same mux, etc, in the sat world, can you also do the same thing by recording the same channels off the same transponders?
[20:55:22] Smirnov: AndyCap: yeah i would too but its the easiest way to play the blurays from netflix
[20:55:40] wagnerrp: Smirnov: linux will not work with HDCP, it requires OS support
[20:55:51] wagnerrp: as well as application support
[20:55:54] Smirnov: wagnerrp: i know.. as i said i have to boot into windows sometimes ;)
[20:55:56] J-e-f-f-A: Ok, time to work on my sat dish while there's still light.. ;-) Been in the same spot for 7 years, needs slight adjustment of either the alighment or a branch or two...  ;-)
[20:56:11] Smirnov: hell i'd rather not but gotta do what you gotta do
[20:56:20] ** J-e-f-f-A goes outside... ;-) **
[20:56:36] Smirnov: maybe one day they will break HDCP and we will get it on Linux but until then
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[20:57:00] Smirnov: im just gonna pick up a dvi detective it looks like
[20:57:10] kbrandt_: Hi All, I am trying to get my HVR-950 working, but with the channel scan all I get when any channel locks is no tables. Can anyone tells me what that means and what I might do to fix it?
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[20:57:30] AndyCap: Smirnov: i'd check with kramer and gefen to see if it supports it
[20:57:42] Smirnov: does normal DVI even care about HDCP?
[20:57:45] Smirnov: i would expect not
[20:58:00] wagnerrp: you can run HDCP over DVI
[20:58:16] Smirnov: yeah but thats the end-to-end devices that need to support it
[20:58:18] wagnerrp: the only thing that cares about HDCP is the source player
[20:58:35] Smirnov: i mean i dont think a dvi detective would break hdcp would it, wagnerrp ?
[20:58:37] AndyCap: Smirnov: doesn't mean that having an edid cache in the middle won't break it
[20:58:47] Smirnov: hmmm i guess i'll double check
[20:59:07] Smirnov: AndyCap: what kramer ? i only see gefen detectives
[20:59:38] damian666: hi folks, is it possible to tell mythtv only to deinterlace dvb-streams only if they are interlaced ?? cause i tried some settings on progressive hd material and with interlacer enabled there is about +20% usage on one cpu ( is it maybe just the overhead for detecting progressive material)?
[21:00:04] wagnerrp: i dont know, i assume the detective just captures and repeats the EDID data, rather than any actual video data
[21:00:16] AndyCap: Smirnov: http://www.kramerelectronics.com/indexes/item.asp?name=VA-1DVI
[21:00:58] Smirnov: ok i dont think the gefen one is HDCP compliant :(
[21:02:28] Smirnov: yeah thats pretty lame.
[21:02:30] AndyCap: Smirnov: they claim the detective plus does
[21:02:47] Smirnov: o, ther's a plus?
[21:03:17] Smirnov: AndyCap: nice i didnt realize that. and reading their forums they didnt mention a plus
[21:04:03] Smirnov: damn, $100.50 heh?
[21:04:28] Smirnov: well my dad has got money, he needs it lol he'll pay :D
[21:04:34] Smirnov: AndyCap: thanks a lot, this is exactly what i need.
[21:04:58] wagnerrp: you know, its funny
[21:05:12] Smirnov: whats that?
[21:05:15] wagnerrp: movie studios keep making these sci-fi films where all of the technology magically works together
[21:05:29] wagnerrp: so then they produce devices to make sure that cannot happen
[21:05:38] Smirnov: its not just movie studios, every tech company thinks the future is synergized devices
[21:05:48] Smirnov: and then they never agree on an open standard to make it happen :)
[21:05:56] laga: damian666: i believe smart deinterlacers like yadif or greedyh can do that... but i'm not sure, but you probably need a fast CPU for HD with those deinterlacers
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[21:16:07] damian666: laga: i actually use those deinterlacers, ok then i assume i have to live with that, thnx for the answer
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[21:17:23] laga: i think mythtv disables deinterlacers if it detects that the stream is progressive
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[21:26:25] justinh: it gets confused easily
[21:27:00] justinh: recordings from channel five here seem to go progressive once in a while to save bandwidth or something
[21:27:06] justinh: like, for just a few frames
[21:28:49] justinh: then again I've not noticed it since I upgraded to 0.21 so the greedy deint is probably being smarter than the average deinterlacer
[21:29:53] justinh: anyway, just watched Enemy Of The State again, made in 1998. The date of birth of one of the characters was 11th of September. CONSPIRACY!
[21:31:40] laga: i'm currently trying to fix my damn printer
[21:31:44] laga: some paper got stuck in it
[21:31:56] ** justinh blames the feds **
[21:32:07] justinh: they put a bug in your printer
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[21:47:06] laga: yeah.
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[21:56:41] jimbalaya: i've just rebuilt my mythtv pc, this time using debian lenny (used etch, previously) and i'm having a couple issues – the aspect ratio while viewing TV is off (i have a widescreen tv, and the video is smooshed even further, instead of fitting it to screen)....
[21:57:21] wagnerrp: so change the default aspect ratio
[21:57:35] wagnerrp: or just hit 'w' a couple of times
[21:58:36] justinh: so you have a wide TV, but what res is X running at?
[21:58:46] jimbalaya: wagnerrp: that zooms, so the edges are clipped, is that normal?
[21:58:59] justinh: if it's still a 4:3 resolution (which it always would be if PAL or NTSC) you can force an override
[21:59:04] jimbalaya: i'm running at an odd res – 1360x768 or something ... let me double check
[21:59:13] wagnerrp: you can zoom, but you can also put it in 4:3 and 16:9 mode, no overscaling
[21:59:24] justinh: jimbalaya: using svideo or composite out of a graphics card?
[21:59:32] jimbalaya: out of card, is vga
[21:59:56] justinh: so, tell myth to use separate video modes for playback
[22:00:06] justinh: and tell it your display is 16:9
[22:07:41] jimbalaya: odd, that caused the mouse to be displayed over the video (even though i have the "hide mouse" option set)
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[22:18:32] blackest: justinh: sorted the voip thing
[22:19:52] blackest: vonage vta-u something had to run a cpl of things to unlock it and configure it now free calls to landlines in a bunch of countrys
[22:20:14] blackest: cost of hardware £14.97 and a lot of time
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[22:21:30] blackest: although i think i'd go for a linksys pap2 thing instead next time its easier and not so much hassle
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[22:54:24] ajh: With 0.21 does coreavc still need a patch?
[22:56:07] ajh: There are a lot of references, but nothing with versions in it.
[22:56:20] Aval0n: yes
[22:56:24] ajh: OK, thanks.
[22:56:25] Aval0n: it still has to be patched in
[22:56:29] Aval0n: it's a windows thing
[22:56:32] Aval0n: it's more of a hack
[22:56:38] Aval0n: I would expect native support for it any time soon.
[22:56:48] Aval0n: wouldn't***
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[22:57:25] ajh: Yeah, a better open h.264 decoder would of course be better, I'm only getting minor hiccups on 720p stuff.
[22:57:55] ajh: Probably just upgrade the cpu too I guess.
[22:58:25] laga: you can also try trunk + janneg's updated ffmpeg merge
[22:58:36] ajh: Actually, looks like I haven't done any OC either.
[22:58:46] ajh: Where would I find that?
[22:59:19] laga: http://www.grunau.be/ffmpeg_sync_14670.diff.bz2
[22:59:24] laga: that's the ffmpeg patch
[22:59:27] ajh: Thanks.
[22:59:30] laga: of course, usual trunk warnings apply
[23:00:11] ajh: Yeah, I've been really crazy busy with Linux Symposium stuff for the last few months so couldn't keep up to date on what's going on. Any sense when 0.22 will go?
[23:00:56] laga: no clue
[23:01:05] laga: if you're "really crazy busy", then trunk is probably not for you.
[23:01:13] ajh: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
[23:01:24] ajh: I can live with some hiccups for now. :)
[23:01:35] ajh: Mostly the h.264 stuff is archive anyway.
[23:01:41] laga: coreavc seems to work well here, although the howtos are a bit lacking. i've hooked up my 22" tft to my radeon 9250 now and HD playback is really slow – dunno why that happens.
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[23:02:01] laga: someone else also had that problem, it doesnt happen for him with ffmpeg. i'll experiment some more tomorrow
[23:02:18] ajh: Yeah, guess I'll avoid touching a working thing for now :) Moving in 3 months on top of everything else.
[23:02:33] ajh: I can't see pointing the dish under Linux being a fun thing.
[23:03:29] ajh: OK, thanks for the input.
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[23:11:39] my2keh: lol
[23:11:44] my2keh: no, it's not fun
[23:13:07] ajh: Yeah, I'll order a signal tester before the move I think :)
[23:13:14] my2keh: I suggest that
[23:13:23] my2keh: or have another type of box that helps you
[23:13:30] my2keh: ie set top box from sat company
[23:13:31] my2keh: or FTA
[23:13:56] my2keh: anyone use MediaMVP here?
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[23:27:37] my2keh: or how about a small system?
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