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WattoDaTo:

Hey everyone! I just reinstalled my mythbackend distro and now I am having problems with the mythweather database. As I understand it, the mythweather part of the sql database now uses a thing called InnoDB which causes problems with a sql database transfer? I was wondering if I could somehow just delete the mythweather database and recreate it so it works again?

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Anduin:

WattoDaTo: You could delete it, if you remove the schema version (for MythWeather only!) in the settings table it will recreate it on start.

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** Gumby just cant get configuring ffmpeg for mp3 encoding right :( I've installed liblame and liblame-dev packages. ran ./configure --enable-libmp3lame and I still dont have encoding support. **

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WattoDaTo:

Anduin, thanks for the info. I am not familiar with mysql commands so I was wondering if you could walk me through it?

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Anduin:

WattoDaTo: there are fancy GUI tools that will let you do the basics, lack of a primary key in settings is the only real manual thing

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Anduin:

WattoDaTo: but if you want something entirely untested: DROP TABLE weathersourcesettings, weatherscreens, weatherdatalayout; DELETE FROM settings WHERE value = 'WeatherDBSchemaVer';

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Anduin:

(not actually run, so there could be typos)

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Anduin:

WattoDaTo: do you have a reason for why the restore failed? (if you don't have the innodb driver, the above will not help, innodb is required for MythWeather)

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WattoDaTo:

Anduin, I don't actually know anything about innodb but I assume it was installed because I used the mythbuntu packages to reinstall myth

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Anduin:

WattoDaTo: That seems like a good assumption, I don't Ubuntu but know that some people have mysql without innodb.

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WattoDaTo:

I think it has something to do with the fact that I just copied the mythconverg folder instead of used mysqldump

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WattoDaTo:

Anduin, do you know which table the schema is in?

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Anduin:

Uh, that doesn't make sense :)

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Anduin:

The tables are the ones I mentioned, in the mythconverge database

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WattoDaTo:

oops I see now you said the settings table. Ok either I am just not seeing any data in it or mysql-admin doesn't display the actual data.

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Anduin:

The admin too generally just allows you to see the catalogs, manage users, etc, you would want the query browser

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Anduin:

*tool

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WattoDaTo:

Anduin, I'm in the query browser but the edit button is grayed out. Do you have any idea why?

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WattoDaTo:

Anduin, I just decided to use your command instead and I got "ERROR 1051 (42S02): Unknown table 'weathersourcesettings,weatherscreens,weatherdatalayout'" but the settings change worked.

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WattoDaTo:

However in mythfrontend I still get "Table 'mythconverg.weatherdatalayout' doesn't exist QMYSQL3: Unable to execute query"

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sphery:

WattoDaTo: did you restart the frontend after deleting the setting. Also, you can run the DROP TABLE as: DROP TABLE IF EXISTS weathersourcesettings, weatherscreens, weatherdatalayout;

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sphery:

With that command, there shouldn't be an error.

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sphery:

If there is, you have more to fix.

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Varak_:

does anyone have the default signal and tuning timeouts for myth tv backend DVB card. I changed them on mine and forgot the originals and changing them seems to make things way way worse.

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WattoDaTo:

sphery, thanks a LOT, I don't know if either closing the frontend or your monified command did the trick but it is working now!

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WattoDaTo:

Thanks for all the crazy help guys and now that I have it working I will be leaving you all. Have a great day!

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sphery:

WattoDaTo: Probably restarting the frontend. The command was just to ensure that the error was due to missing tables and not mis-typed command...

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sphery:

but anyway...l

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sphery:

Varak_: for a DVB card, the default timeouts are 500 (signal) and 3000 (tuning)

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** Gumby has been trying all day without success to get mp3 encoding support in ffmpeg. I just cant get it right. Can anyone suggest something I may be doing wrong? Does ffmpeg needs mp3 encoding support compiled in by default? The only thing I am needing it for is the streaming flash video in mythweb **

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Gumby:

I have mp3 support, just not for encoding :(

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Varak_:

sphery: thank you

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atrus:

i'm reading up on how to do transcoding, and i'm confused to say the least :) What I'm reading about seems to be how to get files produced by mythtv (in nuv format), and transcode them to something smaller. Under my mythtv setup however, it seems to record to .mpg files (which are mpeg-2 as output from my tuner), and then get transcoded into smaller .nuv files, which I can't figure out how to play. Is there something fundamental I'

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atrus:

m missing here?

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mchou:

atrus: most likely your transcoe profile is messed up

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mchou:

transcode*

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mchou:

if the original recordings are mpeg, there should be no reason to transcode to nuv

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atrus:

well they're mpg2. i'd love to transcode them into xvid or something that's not quite so huge

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mchou:

atrus: look into nuvexport

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Amun:

what EPG does mythtv use, and what url does it contact to get the EPG?

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mchou:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Nuvexport

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thoraxe:

Amun: you can use a couple of things. the primary for north america is schedulesdirect

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Amun:

is schedulesdirect free?

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mchou:

Amun: virtually free but not free

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Amun:

k

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atrus:

mchou: i've found a few references to that. is it possible to have it transcode and put it back in a spot where the mythtv recordings browser would be able to see it?

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mchou:

Amun: iirc it's around $20/yr

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atrus:

mchou: what would be messed up in the transcoding profile that i'd be looking into?

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mchou:

atrus: you'd have to look into that yourself or rely on someone else

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atrus:

mchou: ok. do you know if it's possbile to use nuvexport when i don't have nuv files to start with?

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mchou:

atrus: yup

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atrus:

ah, that may be more helpful than i thought then :)

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dramman:

Wierd – I've added a DVB capture card & successfully done the channel scanning on the backend, but "Watch TV" is not working on the frontend (same machine)

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Amun:

what url does mythtv use to get the program guide from schedulesdirect ?

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atrus:

what i thought was weird was that the output .nuv file (which exists, and mplayer almost sort of plays) doesn't seem to show up in the mythtv menus anywhere

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mchou:

if mplayer doesnt play it most likely recording is not mpeg2

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mchou:

or I should say the file

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cesman:

file /path/to/what/file/is/this should tell you what it is...

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atrus:

mchou: no, the .nuv file is after mythtv's transcode job ran on it

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atrus:

doubly-weird, mythweb sees the transcoded version, even though mythtv-frontend can't

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atrus:

cesman: just says "data"

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mchou:

atrus: like I said your encoding profile is messed up

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mchou:

I mean transcode profile

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atrus:

mchou: i didn't really change much in the profile, so i'm not sure what that would be.

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atrus:

when you say "transcode profile" you mean the setup->tv settings->recording profiles->transcoders?

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atrus:

hm. does it seem odd that by default the "maximum quality" setting is lower than the "minimum quality" setting?

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thoraxe:

feh, darn ati + fedora :(

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lyricnz:

how much grunt is required for backend-only DVB?

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thoraxe:

so i can use mplayer and play mp3 sound, but when i try to use the mythtv music thing no sound comes out... i can't even tell if i'm playing an mp3

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thoraxe:

the play button is highlighted and all... but there's no progress bar or anything

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thoraxe:

ok weird, now it's working

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thoraxe:

but my remote controls are all jacked... boo

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thoraxe:

ok no, it's just mythmusics default keybindings are retarded :(

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RungeKutta:

is there a decent document someplaec on how to install the myth backend only from source?

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clever:

youll need mythtv-setup also to make any use out of it, and probly frontend also to access certain settings

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RungeKutta:

clever: was that for me?

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cesman:

RungeKutta: ./configure --help

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RungeKutta:

./configure --help

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RungeKutta:

didn't do anything

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dramman:

WHat does

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RungeKutta:

I just typed ./configure --help

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RungeKutta:

and it didn't do anything

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dramman:

"EntryToProgram(0Thur Jan...) failed to get pginfo" mean?

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dramman:

Also get "GetEntryAt(-1) failed"

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cesman:

check your db for error (if I remember correctly)

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gizmobay:

RungeKutta, it didn't give you a list of options?

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RungeKutta:

I was just pretending I was dumb and typing it into irc

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RungeKutta:

I was mainly just asking in here for a doc incase it was a big ordeal

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cesman:

RungeKutta: should state something like --with-backend

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RungeKutta:

ah ok

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gizmobay:

There's docs on mythtv.org

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RungeKutta:

probably have to do --without on the rest I dont need, I suppose

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RungeKutta:

okie danke

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dramman:

Should the value for MythFrontEnd/DefaultBackend/DBPort in "config.xml" be "0" ?

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dramman:

Can anyone help me set up a Winfast DTV2000H? Which card type etc do I choose?

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waxhead_:

hi everyone

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waxhead_:

quick question, should I be able to rip a DVD and have mythtv still record a show I have marked for recording?

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waxhead_:

I was surprised yesterday that while ripping some dvd's it didn't record a show marked to be recorded.

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Dagmar:

Funxors

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Dagmar:

I <3 new chipsets... Timing buffered disk reads: 8 MB in 3.13 seconds = 2.56 MB/sec

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xlordt:

Do you guys have a specific version for x86_64 platforms?

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xlordt:

cause I keep getting the following error when I try to install mythtv..

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xlordt:

here is the errors.

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xlordt:

http://rafb.net/p/3s8pU135.html

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Dagmar:

This /usr/include/artsc/../libavformat/avformat.h

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xlordt:

yes

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Dagmar:

It rather likely shouldn't be there.

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xlordt:

sorry for my Ignorance, but its my first time trying to install this app.

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xlordt:

ah

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xlordt:

hold

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Dagmar:

Then stop trying to link it to artsd stuff, I can suggest that right off

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xlordt:

link? I havent

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xlordt:

I just did make

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xlordt:

./confure, make..

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Dagmar:

Either way, Myth has it's own version of that header and the one installed there under /usr/include/libavformat is scerwing it up

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Dagmar:

*Probably* you are using a cockeyed version of ffmpeg

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xlordt:

yes, I figured that part, but I don't know if I need to upgrad or not.

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Dagmar:

You will need the SVN of FFmpeg

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xlordt:

ok, let me try the svn than.

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Dagmar:

And I *strongly* suggest you use release-0.21-fixes from SVN of MythTV

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xlordt:

ok thanx, let me try this out.

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Dagmar:

Found the bloody nForce driver

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Dagmar:

Man, 2Mb/s is just so sad. I'd forgotten how poorly the generic EIDE driver could perform.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

good morning

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noaxess_kubuntu:

how can i change the mythtv backend/frontend language?

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xlordt:

hey Dagmar I still got the same error, MythTv 0.21, dowloaded ffmpeg using git.. as it states that its the same as svn.. and I still got the same erro

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Dagmar:

Did you install it into prefix /usr or /usr/local

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xlordt:

what myth? or ffmpeg?

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Dagmar:

FFMpeg.

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xlordt:

usr

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Dagmar:

I.e., the thing with the broken header file

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xlordt:

Yes I know :)

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Dagmar:

WEll, I'll put it to you this way

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xlordt:

its installed in /usr

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Dagmar:

I have ffmpeg-svn13775 in there, build release-0.21-fixes on a weekly basis, and it's fine *here*

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xlordt:

do you have that package still?

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xlordt:

let me search for that particular vers.

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Dagmar:

It's not like it's going to work on your system.

[06:47:48]

Dagmar:

I grabbed it from FFMpeg's SVN tree about four days ago

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xlordt:

might though.

[06:48:11]

xlordt:

Ya read something about it on google

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Dagmar:

Unless you're running Slackware 12.0, don't kid yourself.

[06:48:22]

Dagmar:

This binary would not be safe to use on another system

[06:48:25]

xlordt:

some one was was having the same error as I am right now.

[06:48:35]

xlordt:

on slamd64

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Dagmar:

Well, look and see what they did to fix it

[06:48:54]

xlordt:

I did, he stated upgrade.

[06:48:57]

xlordt:

nothing more.

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Dagmar:

Or look at the line they're talking about in that header file and see what's wrong with it.

[06:49:13]

Dagmar:

...but I know for a fact that SVN version works

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xlordt:

what link did you use to get the svn?

[06:49:34]

Dagmar:

aada6ae6864f3ea835b2119ec8223352 /usr/include/libavformat/avformat.h

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xlordt:

isnt git the same though?

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Dagmar:

Link?

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xlordt:

ya to get ffmpeg.

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Dagmar:

What are these links you're talking about

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Dagmar:

I'm not using someone's bloody package

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xlordt:

cause I am on there site right now.

[06:50:04]

Dagmar:

I build this stuff

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Dagmar:

Freakin just go get trunk from their SVN server. http://ffmpeg.mplayerhq.hu/download.html

[06:51:12]

xlordt:

Ya I am there, but its aight, I will get it working sooner or later.. thanx.

[06:51:13]

Dagmar:

If you've got the same md5sum on that file you shoudln't be having a problem unless something else is hosed

[06:51:42]

xlordt:

ok there it goes.

[06:51:54]

xlordt:

I just tried a while ago.. and it stated that dns was not found.

[06:52:03]

xlordt:

so I downloaded the git one.

[06:52:09]

xlordt:

but now its downloading.

[06:52:39]

Dagmar:

Are you, perhaps, attemptin to build this against KDE 4?

[06:52:53]

xlordt:

Checked out revision 13876.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

is there a way to change the language of the gui's? frontend/backend gui's?

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xlordt:

Dagmar, no fluxbox

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wagnerrp:

its a damn shame none of the other window managers picked up on the pervasive tabbing from fluxbox

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Dagmar:

Er rather Qt-4?

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wagnerrp:

it was an otherwise spartan desktop, but that tabbing was amazing

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noaxess_kubuntu:

change language of frontend and backend, is it possible?

[07:08:32]

noaxess_kubuntu:

i think my questions will be ignored.. or not viewed.. don't know why.. :(

[07:09:09]

cesman:

yes, it is possible

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cesman:

you'll have to manually delete the entry in the db, then rerun mythtv-setup and it should ask you what language you want to use

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noaxess_kubuntu:

or.. UPDATE `settings` SET `data` = 'EN' WHERE `settings`.`value` = 'Language';

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noaxess_kubuntu:

thanks cesman ...

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cesman:

you're welcome

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xlordt:

hm now I get a different error.

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xlordt:

does this have to do anything with qt? http://rafb.net/p/gxVEug12.html

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internat85:

Howdy, is there a mythtv remote type thing? I have an eeepc, and id like to put it next to the couch and use it to control what the mythtv box next to the tv plays.. suggestions?

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xlordt:

yes it does

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dramman:

what does it mean when I get a segmentation fault when running mythfilldatabase?

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Gumby`:

could mean a lot of things

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Gumby:

when I have seen segfaults in the past its usually been because of bad memory or bad hard drive (bad motherboard controllers)

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dramman:

argh! why does the backend tune work, but the frontend "watch tv" not?

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internat85:

any suggestions for a mythtv remote station type thing?

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Gumby:

internat85: something like synaptic might work

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Gumby:

allows multiple pc's to use one mouse and one keyboard over tcp/ip

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Gumby:

also, you might be able to use vnc

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Ace2016:

Hi all

[09:14:23]

Ace2016:

Can someone point me to a guide on how to setup a remote?

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Kazan:

check out the lirc docs

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Kazan:

reminds me i gotta setup my new one tommorow :D

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Ace2016:

Hi all

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Ace2016:

i'm getting an error with a recording

[09:59:09]

Ace2016:

"the file for this recording cannot be found"

[09:59:32]

Ace2016:

the system has not been restarted since the recording

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Ace2016:

and it was not in uyse

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Ace2016:

use*

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BULLE:

Ace2016: so the obvious thing to do, is to check your filesystem, for the recording, and verify that its there

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BULLE:

Ace2016: that is step 1

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BULLE:

Ace2016: sometimes shit happens, like the backend crashing, so nothing gets recorded, or similar, its very rare, but it is known to have happened

[10:17:53]

asmussen:

I don't know if I'd call it all that rare...

[10:18:42]

fryfrog:

for me, with firewire it is more likely to not record and think it did that it is to actually have a recording :)

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[10:19:15]

asmussen:

I don't have problems with that happening too much with SD recordings, but I used to have that happen ALL THE TIME with my PC 3000 capture card, and I get it occasionally with the HD Homerun.

[10:19:52]

BULLE:

asmussen: well, im just polishing the truth a bit

[10:20:13]

BULLE:

it basicly NEVER happens to me though

[10:20:17]

BULLE:

but i run old .19 or so

[10:20:22]

BULLE:

and it just works [tm]

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BULLE:

i guess it also depends a lot on what capture card you got, i got an old trusty pvr 250

[10:20:54]

asmussen:

I think it mostly happens with me anyway when it can't lock onto the QAM channel.

[10:21:07]

asmussen:

I don't have any problems with it at all with my PVR-500.

[10:21:16]

fryfrog:

yeah, my PVR250/500 *never* had any problems

[10:21:23]

otwin:

in almost 3 years i don't think i ever had the backend process crash and missed recordings only if there was a problem with the cards, but thats outside myth

[10:21:26]

fryfrog:

just firewire is flakey :/

[10:21:40]

BULLE:

otwin: i think i have had it crash once or twice

[10:21:45]

fryfrog:

those usb hd-pvr is very tempting :/

[10:21:52]

BULLE:

fryfrog: ye

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asmussen:

My backend crashes about once a month. It's already crashed a couple of times on me this week.

[10:21:59]

BULLE:

asmussen: ouch

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fryfrog:

wish it wasn't $250 :/

[10:22:19]

otwin:

asmussen: then theres sth wrong with your setup

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BULLE:

fryfrog: the thingies you are talking about to atsc or is it dvb-t ?

[10:22:35]

fryfrog:

no, component input

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BULLE:

oh

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fryfrog:

component -> h264 via usb

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BULLE:

fryfrog: hmmm, never seen those, got a link at hand ?

[10:23:05]

BULLE:

or atleast a product name

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fryfrog:

it is a new haupage thing, i always have to poke around on their site

[10:23:14]

fryfrog:

it is literally "HD-PVR" :)

[10:23:21]

BULLE:

okies, i will poke around myself a bit

[10:23:54]

asmussen:

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hdpvr.html

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BULLE:

asmussen: thanks

[10:24:10]

fryfrog:

http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/hd_pvr.html

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fryfrog:

also

[10:24:26]

fryfrog:

wtf, same exact page

[10:25:01]

fryfrog:

hey, that is kind of cool, it has an IR receiver built in

[10:25:09]

fryfrog:

i mean, not *that* cool but... kind of

[10:25:28]

asmussen:

I think it's just passthrough to the IR blaster, isn't it?

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BULLE:

that thingy does indeed look pretty nice

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fryfrog:

no

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BULLE:

how is the linux support for them ?

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fryfrog:

it has an ir receiver and a blaster

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fryfrog:

BULLE: some guy in here is/was writing the driver, i hear it works good

[10:26:05]

asmussen:

The Linux support is very beta right now, but it's improving almost daily.

[10:26:05]

fryfrog:

i dunno if myth can use it yet or not though :/

[10:26:13]

asmussen:

Yeah, there is preliminary mythtv support.

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BULLE:

dang

[10:26:21]

asmussen:

But that's even more beta than the driver.

[10:26:25]

BULLE:

still

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fryfrog:

i'll be happy to wait

[10:26:34]

asmussen:

They've only been on the market for a couple of weeks.

[10:26:37]

BULLE:

damn you, now i got intrested in that thing

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fryfrog:

asmussen: is it in trunk?

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fryfrog:

i wonder if support will get back-ported to -fixes :/

[10:26:55]

asmussen:

http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5443

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asmussen:

The guy doing most of the mythtv work on it so far has been working against -fixes, and has said that somebody else will have to port it forward to the dev branch.

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fryfrog:

awesome

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asmussen:

The IR receiver on the hdpvr actually relays what it gets back to the attached computer, or just is a passthrough to the IR Blaster so that you can still use your cable box remote even though the IR Blaster is covering the IR receiver on the cable box?

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fryfrog:

oh, i dunno sorry

[10:30:47]

asmussen:

Although, now that I look at it, it does show a picture of a Hauppauge remote on the hdpvr data page.

[10:31:09]

fryfrog:

i suspect it is has both a receiver and a trasmitter

[10:31:20]

asmussen:

I ordered one a couple of weeks ago, but they're fairly heavily backordered.

[10:31:23]

fryfrog:

i've never used an ir blaster, does it... totally cover a devices receiver?

[10:31:40]

asmussen:

It depends on the model of IR Blaster. Some do, but not all.

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fryfrog:

ah

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BULLE:

fryfrog: the ones that i use, that came with my mce-remote, does not

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BULLE:

fryfrog: they are pretty small, so if your device has a somewhat large receiver, its easy to put on there, and still use the remote to controll it aswell

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fryfrog:

i'd just use firewire for my STB, at least channel changing works 100% :)

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Solv:

anybody come across an issue and hopefully solved it where my remote mythfrontend can no longer watch livetv...it can connect and watch recordings etc etc...but pressing livetv flicks it straight back to the menu...and the logs say nothing, nor does anything show up if i run the frontend from the commandline?

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Solv:

by the way it used to work fine....so I'm kinda scratching my head as to what changes I could've made?? The only thing I have done that may affect it I guess is fixed the mysql tables with myisamchk

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fryfrog:

Solv: have you turned logging up and looked at it after that?

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Ace2016:

Any way to force update EIT info

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Ace2016:

?

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fryfrog:

no, i think it just comes along when it comes along

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fryfrog:

you'd have to tell your broadcasters to send it

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fryfrog:

i doubt they'd listen

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Ace2016:

oh ok

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fryfrog:

at least, i'm pretty sure that is how it works

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Solv:

fryfrog, no...not sure how to do that

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Ace2016:

How do i do custom buttons in lirc?

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Ace2016:

or in mythtv

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Ace2016:

i ran cat /dev/lirc0 and the commands are being received ok, but i want to map them to something

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Solv:

Ace2016, there is a program...the name has slipped me ...hold on

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Solv:

Ace2016, irrecord

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Solv:

google that, there will be a howto...basically it generates an lircd.conf file which you can then map your .lircrc file in ~/.mythtv to

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Ace2016:

thanks

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Solv:

np

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KjetilK:

I just upgraded to 0.21 (and mythbuntu 8.04), and now my audio levels differs wildly

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KjetilK:

if I have a reasonable volume on music playback, the DVD audio is inaudible

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KjetilK:

any way I can set a "base volume" for all applications?

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portahex:

KjetilK, what app is doing your dvd playback?

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oops that mix was too long. HDD is now full :-\

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KjetilK:

portahex: it says "Internal", and my default videoplayer is mplayer

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jon_:

hi, anyone around this morning?

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kdub:

Hi.

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pbj:

Hey there – is there a way to change the timesettings by 2hour – when grabbing TVinfo ??? Caurse I use a satelitedish – and one of the grabbers are the TVinfo 2hours behind – which means I cannot use any scheduling jobs etc

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Dabian:

Hi, I have an RC6 windows-vista remote .. I have some trouble deciding if it will work with MythTV?

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Dabian:

(I didn't choose the vista-remote, it was bundled with my PVR500)

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iamlindoro:

Yes, that's just a normal mceusb remote

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Dabian:

mceusb .. how do I get such a thing working?

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Dabian:

Is it hard, do I need to look at webpage?

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iamlindoro:

why not google mceusb mythtv?

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Dabian:

I just did, actually :)

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iamlindoro:

so you have you answer, since it's in the first result

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Dabian:

I get this page:

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Dabian:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remote

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Dabian:

So this is true? "This remote requires an updated lirc_mceusb2 driver (newer than current lirc-0.8.2 released: 9-Jun-2007) Download just the updated driver (version 1.30 of the file and newer has support) from LIRC CVS or follow the instructions below for a complete CVS checkout. "

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iamlindoro:

just depends on your distro. Most distro's packages have support for it included

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Dabian:

I got hardy, IIRC.

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Dabian:

Ubuntu Hardy GNU/Linux ..

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iamlindoro:

then it'll work fine with the packaged lirc

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Dabian:

So I can skip all the compile and download stuff I guess. :D

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iamlindoro:

why not try "hardy mceusb" now?

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iamlindoro:

*cough* google *cough*

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Dabian:

oh ... right.

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iamlindoro:

and only ask questions when you've spent at least 30 seconds trying to find the answer yourself

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Dabian:

Sorry, I'm not too bright.

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Dabian:

Oh .. nice.

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Ace2016:

Hi all

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Ace2016:

what do i use for the names of irrecord button names

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Ace2016:

is there a naming convention that i should follow to allow it to work?

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|Torg|:

http://www.google.com redirects to irc://irc.freenode.net/#mythtv-users :P

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Ace2016:

lol

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Ace2016:

but i tried

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Ace2016:

i found many howtos they told me how to generate the /etc/lircd.conf

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Ace2016:

and i restarted /etc/init.d/lircd

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|Torg|:

you can name the irrecord buttons whatever you please, you will use them later in your conf file for the program tho so try to stick to something you know

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Ace2016:

but its not working in mythtv

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Ace2016:

irrecord wrote the config for me

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|Torg|:

use irw to test it, hit a button see what irw calls it, they should look familiar

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Ace2016:

hm.. it says connection refuesd

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Ace2016:

as user and as root

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|Torg|:

is lircd running?

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Ace2016:

restarted the daemon, might have crashed

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Ace2016:

i think the daemon is crashing

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Ace2016:

running irw is crashing i

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Ace2016:

it*

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|Torg|:

then you have a bad lircd.conf

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|Torg|:

what remote is this?

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Dabian:

Hmm .. too complicated for me right now .. I'm in a hurry .. but thanks for the help!

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Ace2016:

remote that came with the case, it shows up as soundgraph imon in lsusb and the case is called advance and the remote has advance written on it

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|Torg|:

complicated??? its a lircd.conf with button decritions and a .mythtv/lircrc setup to link them

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|Torg|:

Ace2016: the think that shows up in lsusb is the reciever not the remote, it will tell you what driver to use with lircd

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Ace2016:

well the receiver is a part of the case, built into it

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|Torg|:

from that you need to know what signals your remote puts out, the ir being set to the reciever, thats where the lircd.conf comes in. Has things like timing and framing, as well as butoon defs

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|Torg|:

last part is a lircdrc file that tells myth to use the buttion defs to do something

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Ace2016:

i ran cat /dev/lirc0 and i can see the different presses there

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|Torg|:

the only reason I ask what type of remote youhave is that there are quite a few already defined, yours may be one of them

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Ace2016:

nope i looked in the list

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Ace2016:

the remote looks identical to this: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/3RSystem/H . . . contents.jpg

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Ace2016:

oh it is on the list, imon media

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Ace2016:

median*

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Ace2016:

hm... irw gives no output

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Amun:

UGHSDF my 878a chipset doesnt load with ubuntu.

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Amun:

are there any os's that load the 878a module automatically?

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Ace2016:

cat /dev/lirc0 shows stuff

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Ace2016:

Amun: load it using modprobe?

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Amun:

in my dmesg, it says it cant probe it. returns error -22

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Ace2016:

you could try mythdora or mythbuntu, they are both geared towards mythtv

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Ace2016:

ffs, i'm reinstalling some other distro

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Ace2016:

lircd --logfile isn't even being accepted as an option :(

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Ace2016:

this makes no sense

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Ace2016:

it says right here i can use --logfie http://www.lirc.org/html/lircd.html

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Ace2016:

but the man page doesn't have it

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Ace2016:

oh man i burned 3 coasters in a row :(

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Ace2016:

nothing is going right

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BULLE:

Ace2016: the lirc homepage is new, and documents options that are not in your version ? or perhaps the other way around, your lirc is newer then the docs on the homepage

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Ace2016:

BULLE: i had 0.8.3 cvs version

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Ace2016:

so i doubt it was the version being incorrect

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clever:

Ace2016: lircd --version

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clever:

you may have several installed

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clever:

which -a lircd

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Ace2016:

its just the default version of mythbuntu, they wouldn't just add added multiple versions would they?

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Ace2016:

thats a waste of disk space

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Ace2016:

i mean mythdora

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Ace2016:

damn it why do i keep mixing up terms like this

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sid3windr:

mythstuffa

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Ace2016:

well i'm reinstalling mythbuntu

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Ace2016:

i know how to setup the thing thanks to mythdora now so it should be a piece of cake in mythbuntu

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|Torg|:

Ace2016: why dont you just get a wireless keyboard, and forget the remote

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|Torg|:

that or get a mce remote that is more supported

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Ace2016:

i have a soundgraph imon pad remote, i'm using it

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Ace2016:

thats what i'm guessing it is in the config

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Ace2016:

my backup is the wireless keyboard with touchpad idea

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|Torg|:

well as the linx distros go, wether its myth based or plain RH or Debian il are not better or worse then eachother. The only major differnce is what is sopported "out of the box" and what you need to compile in

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|Torg|:

if you understand linux then simply get Fedora, Debain or something, put on lirc, alsa, X, mysql and myth and be done with it

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Ace2016:

yea it would probably be easier to put debian sid on it

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Ace2016:

ok i am sure no, without a shaddow of a doubt, mythbuntu is broken

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Ace2016:

it cannot scan, there is an error

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Ace2016:

maybe an package upgrade will help

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|Torg|:

can not scan what?

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|Torg|:

do you mean this? http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4645

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Ace2016:

dvb-s, i set everything up correctly and i put in the frequency, symbol rate and vertical/horizontal and went to finish, the scan dialogue does not show up

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|Torg|:

yes go look at that ticket

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Ace2016:

the scan did not start

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|Torg|:

yes I know, go read that ticket

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Ace2016:

strange, it worked in mythdora fine, maybe they used taskset by default?

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BULLE:

Ace2016: they might very well have

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|Torg|:

I doubt it, the distro you had proobly used an older set of myth code

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|Torg|:

it showed up at or about rev 16000 or so

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Ace2016:

is it still there?

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|Torg|:

the bug, yes afaik it listed as wontfix

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Ace2016:

won't fix?

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|Torg|:

in other words its scheduled fro 0.22

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jduggan:

which could be 18months away ;]

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Ace2016:

so the new theme stuff will be in 0.22 right?

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|Torg|:

I dont know what you mean by "new theme stuff" but it does use qt4 over qt3 and have some distict changes in the gui

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Ace2016:

i thought gbee was redesigning the xml skinning syntax

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Ace2016:

is there a torrent plugin for mythtv, if a media center is going to be on all the time its a perfect thing to be running my torrents

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clever:

silly noob, you didnt read the rules did you:P

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Ace2016:

rules?

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clever:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/IRC i think

[18:13:00]

clever:

http://mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/IRC#Bittorrent

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Ace2016:

well just saying you could combine mythweb and add a torrent upload section, it'd be sweet

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|Torg|:

also of legally dubious content

[18:15:06]

** xand wonders why mythfilldatabase doesn't work properly when run from cron, but ok when run manually :| **

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clever:

xand: PATH HOME and other variables diff

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jduggan:

probably need to set a shell

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clever:

xand: and why even cron it, mythbackend can run it for you

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Ace2016_:

well that was strange, laptop just lost power, but i'm back now

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xand:

clever: how can it?

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clever:

i think its in mythfrontend settings

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clever:

or mythtv-setup

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xand:

the reason it's failing is cos PATH is indeed wrong

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xand:

clever: easier to fix my cronjob c.c

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clever:

or click 1 button in mythtv and never think about it again

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Ace2016_:

oh ok, i'll stay clear of torrent talk

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xand:

clever: easier to fix my cronjob c.c

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clever:

Ace2016_: /nick over so you can pm people(like me:P)

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xand:

I don't use mythtv's gui

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xand:

and... I'd probably have to fiddle to get it to work more than I would with cron

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clever:

then your in for a world of pain:P

[18:22:05]

clever:

xand: its in mythfrontend, setup->general

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xand:

how am I?

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clever:

xand: how would you even schedule a recording without the gui

[18:22:51]

xand:

mythweb

[18:22:56]

clever:

and play it...?

[18:23:00]

xand:

mplayer

[18:23:06]

clever:

and skip comercials!

[18:23:16]

clever:

or edit the cutlist to transcode them out

[18:23:20]

xand:

most channels don't have them

[18:23:30]

clever:

lol

[18:23:40]

xand:

that I record from... and when they do, it doesn't skip them properly

[18:23:59]

xand:

so I just fast forward :P

[18:24:22]

xand:

the times I've tried it, it would skip to the end of the program or other silly things

[18:24:26]

clever:

just run mythfrontend and youll find the button exactly where i said:P

[18:24:59]

xand:

not sure I even have mythfrontend installed

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xand:

hm

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xand:

ok, i found the settings, but it doesn't let me specify PATH... unless "PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin mythfilldatase" will work

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xand:

seems to me i may as well just use cron

[18:28:19]

clever:

it will use the PATH that mythbackend was ran with

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clever:

which should allready be set right

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xand:

doesn't mean it's set to the right thing

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clever:

then fix the script that starts mythbackend:P

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xand:

no, it'll only break if I upgrade stuff with apt

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lara0101:

is there anyway of making the keyboard act as a mouse? I don't have a USB mouse on my HTPC but would like to navigate some menus

[18:29:52]

clever:

which is why im not even using the packaged version of mythtv

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xand:

I don't need to "fix it"

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xand:

I'm using self-compiled rt grabber because the packaged one is broken

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xand:

which is why it's not in the normal path

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clever:

ahhh

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clever:

then put a symlink in the normal path:P

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xand:

that's naughty :(

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clever:

my /bin is loaded with symlinks to mythtv programs at /media/mainlv/root/7.10/bin/

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xand:

anyway, I've fixed the cron job... all fine now :P

[18:31:43]

Ace2016_:

|Torg|: taskset -c 0 did not work, it is not the same error, mythbuntu has another probelm

[18:32:12]

|Torg|:

try taskset -c 1 not the default core

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Ace2016_:

the problem is with the DiSEqC device, i keep setting up the LNB but it keeps disappearing

[18:33:15]

xand:

now... I just need the BBC etc to start programs at the right time!

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xand:

how hard can it be?

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Ace2016_:

the DiSEqC device settings are not being saved, i keep setting it to LNB, but the second i go back to the menu and go back into the settings its back to Unconnected

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Ace2016_:

this must be why it worked in mythdora and not in mythbuntu, the DiSEqC device

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Ace2016_:

|Torg|: known bug?

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|Torg|:

no you probbly didnt set it up completly, you have to save the device settings after you set the disec settiongs

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lara0101:

anyone know how to use the keyboard keys as a mouse?

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Ace2016_:

|Torg|: i set it up in mythdora twise and watched tv and recorded a few shows

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Ace2016_:

yea i went to finish to save the settings but its not being updated

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Ace2016_:

it keeps reverting to (Unconnected)

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Ace2016_:

oh i see

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Ace2016_:

i forgot to press finish at the capture card settings so when i went back to the menu it didn't save the settings

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|Torg|:

that is what I was telling you

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Ace2016_:

i thought it would save when i pressed finish in the lnb settings

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Ace2016_:

volume control isn't working

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Ace2016_:

and mute also does not work

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noaxess_kubuntu:

if i start watching any tv channel the picture freezes but the live-tv recording works..

[19:10:37]

noaxess_kubuntu:

if i go the to my recorded shows i can wath the thumbnail video, but if i start the video, the picture freezes..

[19:10:44]

noaxess_kubuntu:

is that a problem of my graficcard?

[19:11:44]

Ace2016_:

or the system is too slow

[19:11:47]

Ace2016_:

what are the specs?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

Ace2016_: of the sys.. wait

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Ace2016_:

is this HD content?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

Ace2016_: no

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crayolarx:

what card type should I be using for pchdtv 5500? I get video with v4l, but it is really crappy.

[19:12:51]

wagnerrp:

DVB

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crayolarx:

hmm...ok thanks

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wagnerrp:

that card has both analog and digital tuners

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wagnerrp:

V4L probably gets you the analog tuner

[19:13:37]

portahex:

definitely.

[19:14:41]

noaxess_kubuntu:

Ace2016_: intel p4 3.2ghz 2mb cache, 1gb ram ati radeon x700pro

[19:15:13]

noaxess_kubuntu:

Ace2016_: the cpu is no c2d

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portahex:

using which video driver?

[19:15:35]

** cesman didn't think any P4 was ;) **

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Ace2016_:

the system looks ok

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Ace2016_:

but i have no idea about ati graphics cards

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wagnerrp:

cesman: the E2000 series are called pentiums, even though theyre stripped E4000 chips

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cesman:

noaxess_kubuntu: the logs, you need to investigate your back/frontend logs

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noaxess_kubuntu:

portahex: fglrx

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portahex:

which version thereof?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

portahex: hm.. where can i see that?

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wagnerrp:

try to play one of the videos using mplayer

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noaxess_kubuntu:

wagnerrp: ok

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wagnerrp:

do 'mplayer -vo xv <video name>'

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wagnerrp:

see if it actually plays through XV

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wagnerrp:

or if it fails over to x11

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Ace2016_:

tried hooking it up to a crt or lcd computer monitor and seeing if it works ok?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

wagnerrp: mplayer -vo x11 file works

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noaxess_kubuntu:

is there any setting to change that also for mythtv?

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Ace2016_:

what about xv?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

Ace2016_: xv says Video: no video

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wagnerrp:

well then youll have to get the drivers set up properly (if possible)

[19:22:46]

wagnerrp:

or, go into the frontend settings and change the video renderer from xv to x11

[19:22:54]

portahex:

xvinfo.

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Ace2016_:

ati drivers are messed up so yea it is your graphics card

[19:23:39]

noaxess_kubuntu:

portahex: screen #0 no adapters present

[19:25:02]

portahex:

noaxess_kubuntu, sounds about right for fglrx

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portahex:

noaxess_kubuntu, an updated driver might help. or a geforce might help more.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

portahex: jep.. but if there is another way then i use this..

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noaxess_kubuntu:

the changing of the video renderer is in playback profiles right?

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robbins61:

I'm using my xbox 360 to connect to my myth upnp server...i just moved a movie over and i want to watch it on my 360, but i think i need to refresh the database or something

[19:27:52]

robbins61:

how do i do that?

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wagnerrp:

you moved a movie over to.... what?

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wagnerrp:

mythvideo?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

wagnerrp: i don't see any x11 video renderer in the playback profiles..

[19:28:31]

robbins61:

no, the folder i keep my movies in

[19:28:38]

sphery:

Manage Videos under Utilities/Setup

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sphery:

(it's a Utility)

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wagnerrp:

so.... mythvideo?

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robbins61:

so i have to manage it from mythvideo?

[19:29:03]

wagnerrp:

mythtv only manages your recordings

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wagnerrp:

if you want to have outside videos, you have to use mythvideo, its a plugin

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sphery:

robbins61: The XBox 360 won't play anything except WMV or AVI or some combination of MS formats

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portahex:

or h264

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BULLE:

avi is just a container

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robbins61:

sphery, no man, it's worked before.

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robbins61:

I'm just saying that i just moved a movie over and don't want to wait for the database to refresh itself.

[19:30:31]

sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: Chances are you want the default configuration of the Slim profile ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Playback_profiles )

[19:30:34]

robbins61:

i want to watch the video now

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portahex:

http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/2007/1 . . . ack-faq.aspx

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wagnerrp:

the database wont automatically refresh itself

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sphery:

BULLE: yeah, and the 360 only works with MS containers

[19:31:04]

sphery:

when using UPnP

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wagnerrp:

you have to get onto the frontend, and go to utilities/setup, and then video manager

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portahex:

sigh

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portahex:

sphery, wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong

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sphery:

OK, I'll say for a fact that it will /not/ play MPEG-2 from an MPEG Systems stream

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portahex:

yes, that is true

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sphery:

and that's /everything/ I have in MythTV, so it's only usable with MythVideo

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portahex:

probably to stop those evil dvd rippers

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** PatrickDK wonders **

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GreyFoxx:

robin: killall -USR1 mythbackend

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GreyFoxx:

or mythbackend --upnprebuild

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GreyFoxx:

will force a rebuild

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PatrickDK:

robbins never said what video it was, or anything

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sphery:

And MS requires installing POS software into Windows to let WMP transcode and stream "unsupported" formats.

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portahex:

it's delighted to play h264 files from a mythvideo/upnp backend

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sphery:

portahex: and if you have a link to a list of what formats the 360 actually supports I'll try to make my answer more precise next time.

[19:34:52]

portahex:

sphery, like [20:30] <portahex> http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/2007/1 . . . ack-faq.aspx ?

[19:34:54]

portahex:

hm...

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directhex:

stupid xchat

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sphery:

directhex: OK, so MS supports AVI and WMV (MS formats) and MPEG-4 part 2 and part 10 .

[19:36:33]

wagnerrp:

i didnt realize avi as an MS format

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sphery:

yep, since 1992

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directhex:

Audio Video Interleave, known by its acronym AVI, is a multimedia container format introduced by Microsoft in November 1992 as part of its Video for Windows technology.

[19:37:10]

** sphery thinks directhex is on the same wikipedia page **

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GreyFoxx:

the lack of mpeg2 is too bad, or you could watch most peoples recordings

[19:37:23]

GreyFoxx:

its' why I didn't make them availabnle via the upnp video interface for it too

[19:37:35]

directhex:

GreyFoxx, ooh, but how about hd-pvr? that could be neato

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|Torg|:

you sure the xbox cam play mpeg4 part 10? not just part 2?

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directhex:

GreyFoxx, oh, are there any outstanding myth issues w/ ps3 you're aware of?

[19:38:02]

directhex:

|Torg|, i'll ask it to unwatch all those h264 rips i watched on it, if you like

[19:38:03]

GreyFoxx:

dire: Not sure. I havent turned mine on in a while so my hdpvr test files havent been tried

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GreyFoxx:

direc: non specifically Im aware of

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sphery:

|Torg|: from directhex's link: What exactly does the Xbox 360 support for H.264?

[19:38:20]

GreyFoxx:

but I found a bug the other day which could affect any client

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|Torg|:

directhex: im not questioning you, I just didnt think it would

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directhex:

Video Profiles: Baseline, main, and high (up to Level 4.1) profiles.

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sphery:

directhex: says it only supports 10Mbps at 1920x1080@30fps

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|Torg|:

I can try streaming my h264 to it tho ti see

[19:38:53]

directhex:

sphery, question 11

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directhex:

sphery, no real limit, but beyond 10mbit they throw their hands in the air and say "fuck knows"

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|Torg|:

my captures are at 13.5M but I can limit them down to test it

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|Torg|:

I ahve quite a few from 6M up to 13.5M at 1M intervals

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sphery:

directhex: yeah, so I'm guessing there's a good chance the decoder can't keep up

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sphery:

and, IIRC, the bitrate used by the HD-PVR is chosen by the HD-PVR (scaled based on resolution)

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sphery:

where I would assume that 1080i gets the 13.5Mbps. But that's just a guess.

[19:40:54]

directhex:

sphery, given it's capable of playing hd-dvd, i think they're being conservative

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|Torg|:

no chosen by driver

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sphery:

directhex: Yeah, didn't think of that.

[19:41:22]

sphery:

|Torg|: yeah, that's what I meant.

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|Torg|:

video_bitrate (int) : min=1000000 max=13500000 step=100000 default=6500000 value=6000000

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|Torg|:

video_peak_bitrate (int) : min=1100000 max=20200000 step=100000 default=9000000 value=9000000

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sphery:

Hmmm. 20Mbps in the peak.

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PatrickDK:

20Mbps is a peak? and it can to hd-dvd?

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sphery:

That was from |Torg|'s HD-PVR

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PatrickDK:

ah :)

[19:45:02]

PatrickDK:

hell, I record sd at 8mbit with 16mbit peek

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sphery:

I didn't realize that they gave it that much headroom above the 13.5Mbps "average" max

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|Torg|:

those are the values v4l2-ctl lists for my HDPVR

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PatrickDK:

can defently see the difference between that and 5mbit

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BULLE:

PatrickDK: jikes, thats a bit high i would say, but hey, its always nice to know you recorded the noise exactly as it was!

[19:45:26]

noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: i think my graficcard is to slow.. VideoOutputXv Error: Could not find suitable XVideo surface. VideoOutputXv: Falling back to X11 video output over a network socket.

[19:45:42]

noaxess_kubuntu:

*** May be very slow ***

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noaxess_kubuntu:

:(

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PatrickDK:

bulle, heh? it's over 50% better

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sphery:

PatrickDK: but that SD is noisy and recorded in MPEG-2. The HD-PVR is using H.264, so it can (in theory) be more efficient with bits.

[19:46:09]

BULLE:

noaxess_kubuntu: its not to slow, it doesnt have suitable xv support

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wagnerrp:

my old rage128 isnt too slow, so your radeon definately isnt too slow

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PatrickDK:

when I transcode it to x264, the 5mbit looks horrid, the 8mbit one looks good

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noaxess_kubuntu:

BULLE: what can ido?

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wagnerrp:

the problem is that your radeon isnt doing shit

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: so are you trying to use XvMC or something?

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wagnerrp:

because you dont have the drivers set up to support hardware accelerated scaling

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|Torg|:

hmm I transcode at 3M and it looks fine, its a bit rough but no big deal

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PatrickDK:

sphery, as long as you dont have comcast :)

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wagnerrp:

youre failing back to using software scaling on the CPU

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BULLE:

noaxess_kubuntu: no idea to be honest, i have no experience with non nvidia hardware realy, atleast non that is recent enough to be of any intrest

[19:47:12]

noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: XvMC in the Playback Profiles?

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: if you don't have Xv, you won't have XvMC. If your GPU can't keep up with rendering without Xv, you'll need something else for display.

[19:47:19]

|Torg|:

and im assuming the h264 I capture is VBR as mplayer can not tell me what it is

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noaxess_kubuntu:

have tried all the profiles..

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|Torg|:

VIDEO: [H264] 1920x1080 0bpp 29.970 fps 0.0 kbps ( 0.0 kbyte/s)

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: what video do you have?

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BULLE:

damn, i want one of those HD-PVR thingies!

[19:47:56]

sphery:

I have nothing to plug into it...

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BULLE:

do the linux driver support several of them, on the same usb controller ?

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|Torg|:

well no so fast, it does not work 100% in myth yet, the ir is not working, and the drive is still experimental

[19:48:36]

BULLE:

well, i still want one =D

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: sorry, what do you mean? what video.. videocard, tvcard...

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sphery:

My only HDTV decoders are 1 ATI Xilleon in my TV (no output), and 1 MythTV frontend, so having my Myth box output to an HD-PVR would kind of defeat the purpose. :)

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: sorry, what video card?

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BULLE:

sphery: output ?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: ATI Technologies Inc RV410 [Radeon X700 Pro (PCIE)]

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BULLE:

sphery: i want to use it to INPUT

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sphery:

BULLE: yeah, but you have to have something outputting a component signal to the HD-PVR (like a cable STB)

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BULLE:

sphery: aye

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|Torg|:

sphery: you dump HD decode to an ATI card for output?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

for information.. i used the same hardware instead of the tv-card with m$ mce2005.. there i had a analog tv-card

[19:50:56]

sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: Then you need to fix your video driver installation. You should be able to get Xv support on that card (and it would be /plenty/ fast enough for Myth--about 4 generations faster than fast enough).

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: okay.. thats sounds good.. but how..

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: unfortunately, I have no idea how to set up the ATI drivers (but that is your problem). And, Slim will probably be what you want.

[19:51:30]

noaxess_kubuntu:

other driver? some extra tools.. some special xorg.conf?

[19:51:34]

noaxess_kubuntu:

nad googling ;)

[19:51:58]

sphery:

yeah, the latter is the best advice I can give :)

[19:52:01]

noaxess_kubuntu:

and...

[19:52:06]

noaxess_kubuntu:

:)

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: is xv XVideo?

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directhex:

yes

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noaxess_kubuntu:

thx

[19:55:02]

directhex:

and ati didn't add it until driver 8.5 or so, iirc

[19:55:06]

sphery:

Gotta love it when some user whines after his ticket gets closed. I won't mention the ticket number that inspired this comment. (Though I'll give a version that has to be decoded: 7145# )

[19:55:54]

ChrisC35:

How do I get svideo out to work – is that how I should get the output to my tv?

[19:56:08]

ChrisC35:

i have an ati radeon 9700 pro

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ChrisC35:

installed mythbuntu

[19:56:25]

sphery:

ChrisC35: S-Video is better than Composite, which is better than RF modulated output.

[19:56:41]

sphery:

Component is better than Composite.

[19:56:52]

sphery:

but not likely available on a standard-def TV

[19:56:58]

noaxess_kubuntu:

directhex: how can i see which driver is loaded?

[19:57:06]

noaxess_kubuntu:

driver version?

[19:57:14]

sphery:

ChrisC35: Unfortunately I don't know how to set up the ATI cards, though.

[19:58:10]

sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: though there may be an easier way, it should say the driver name and version of the video driver in the X log when the driver is loaded

[19:59:17]

noaxess_kubuntu:

8.47.3

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ChrisC35:

but how do I set it to output to the svideo? right now i see nothing on the tv

[20:00:42]

ChrisC35:

everything is on my lcd

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: have no added two optinos in xorg.conf: Option "VideoOverlay" "on" and Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"

[20:02:12]

noaxess_kubuntu:

on my googling i found that this should enable xv support

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noaxess_kubuntu:

will restart my x now.. see ya later

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sphery:

ChrisC35: On my NVIDIA cards, if I had an S-Video cable plugged in (to the card and a TV), it just outputted to S-Video

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noaxess_kubuntu:

here we go :) it work.. thanks people..

[20:08:02]

noaxess_kubuntu:

the video playback works..

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sphery:

glad it worked

[20:08:10]

** noaxess_kubuntu jumping around.. **

[20:08:34]

noaxess_kubuntu:

now.. the video vormat.. 4:3 16:9..

[20:09:01]

noaxess_kubuntu:

the source gives 16:9 but mythtv output is 4:3.. can i change that?

[20:09:43]

sphery:

You need to fix your X configuration to specify a DisplaySize of the appropriate aspect ratio (same as your physical display).

[20:10:02]

sphery:

If you have Xinerama (or any of its ilk) enabled, you'll need to specify the aspect ratio in Myth.

[20:10:35]

noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: wait.. can't follow..

[20:10:49]

sphery:

Monitor Aspect Ratio in Appearance settings.

[20:11:10]

noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: whats with your first tip.. fix X config?

[20:11:24]

sphery:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Display_Size

[20:11:40]

sphery:

ignore all the "requires a 100x100 DPI" parts of the page

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clever:

i took an axe to xinerama till it was a bloody mass and just stuck mythtv in :0.1

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noaxess_kubuntu:

ok

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tanstaafl32:

dustybin: greets again, found out my pvr-350 problem: both mythbuntu and knoppixmyth don't display the card detection as a drop down. it shows up as just a field. so i was trying to use this mpeg2 only card as v4l--which doesn't work

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tanstaafl32:

once i clicked the invisible drop down button, i could select pvr-x50 hardware mpeg2

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justinh:

no cards are 'detected' in mythtv

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justinh:

you just have to know what you're doing ;)

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|Torg|:

well my xbox360 does not like ANY of my h264, comaplsin it needs a codec and to sign in to live, which I already am

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: thanks for the motivation to fix the Display Size page ( http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Display_Size )

[20:46:00]

dustybin:

i have selected some .avi video files what i want to burn onto dvd using myth archive. should myth archive log viewer show some details about what its doing straight away? im not sure if anything is happening because my log is blank

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: no problem :)

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Aval0n:

550w power supply with 4 12v rails should be fine for 2 8600gt's in sli shouldn't it?

[20:46:43]

noaxess_kubuntu:

i can't find the keyboard key to select a show from the guide

[20:47:00]

noaxess_kubuntu:

if i press enter i can select recording it, instead of switching to it

[20:47:37]

noaxess_kubuntu:

have searched trought the keyborad settings..but haven't found what i mean

[20:48:38]

|Torg|:

anyone know what specs a xbox360 needs to play h264?

[20:49:20]

dustybin:

i dont think a xbox is capable of h264

[20:49:35]

dustybin:

def not

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sphery:

|Torg|: did you look at the page directhex linked: http://blogs.msdn.com/xboxteam/archive/2007/1 . . . ack-faq.aspx

[20:49:51]

sphery:

See #2

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Ace2016_:

Aval0n: what is the maximum current for those 12V rails?

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** sphery is happy that the wiki no longer says, "MythTV requires 100x100 DPI" (at least on the pages I know it used to say it) **

[20:50:55]

|Torg|:

yes sphery it claims V at 10M 1920x1080 at 30 fps, mine are at 6M and aac 2 channel which is all the hdpvr can put out for now, still it dosnt like it

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|Torg|:

altho its really at 29.97 fps I dont think that matters

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sphery:

|Torg|: you could always just install the WMP-converter-plugin-for-unsupported-formats on a /very/ fast Windows box. :)

[20:52:08]

Ace2016_:

best to get a good 850w/1kw psu, don't skimp on it

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|Torg|:

the ONLY windows box I have is my work laptop, fast is not an ajective I would use for it :P

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sphery:

Yeah. Though Windows needs fast more than GNU/Linux, who really needs Windows?

[20:53:13]

|Torg|:

and this is more to play with the xbox360 then use it as a frontend, I never intended it to be one

[20:53:45]

|Torg|:

other then ubu boxes all I have is one windows laptop and 2 solaris 9 systems

[20:53:59]

sphery:

Yeah. I played with it long enough to figure out that it doesn't support MPEG-2 or (as expected) NUV, so I realized it's useless to me for video.

[20:54:06]

|Torg|:

and I have really thought about wiping out that damn latop and putting kubu on it, more then once :P

[20:55:10]

sphery:

I'm very lucky. I don't need Windows for my work. I think my blood pressure dropped a lot when I stopped using it. (Now that I know if something doesn't work, I can just patch the program, my life is so much easier.)

[20:55:12]

|Torg|:

im doing ffmpeg to h264 3M 720P@29.97 and AAC 2-channel just to see what they hell it thinks about it

[20:55:57]

sphery:

I've heard that if you cap with the HD-PVR and re-encode in a multi-pass encode, you can seriously shrink the required bitrate for the same quality.

[20:56:04]

** |Torg| wishes to hell ffmpeg could decode single slice in multicore **

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noaxess_kubuntu:

if i go into the guid, while watching t.. how can i switch to the show i have marked with up/down key?

[20:56:29]

** sphery hopes the ffmpeg GSoC goes better than Myth's did. **

[20:56:43]

sphery:

If so, you may have your multithreaded decode.

[20:57:18]

sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: enter or space, maybe? or x

[20:57:40]

sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: though I have to say I don't use LiveTV, so I'm not at all sure about any of those.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: enter and space gives me only the recording option..

[20:58:05]

noaxess_kubuntu:

maybe x.. cause i haven't found it in the settings of the keyboard key's

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|Torg|:

im doing a mpeg4 720P@29.97/mp3 4410Hz to h264 720P@29.97/AAC 2-chanel 44100 now to see what it thinks of it, but even with 4 cores its only about 1/2 realtime encoding

[20:58:41]

|Torg|:

im guesing it will output multislice as its using multicore to make it

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: there's a setting Use select to change the channel in the program guide: If enabled, the Select key will change the channel while using the program guide during live TV. If disabled, the select key will bring up the recording options screen.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: okay.. x.. and then ESC

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sphery:

It's disabled by default.

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sphery:

so X worked?

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|Torg|:

it didnt like a:copy v:copy dump ts to program stream tho

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noaxess_kubuntu:

yeahh but followed with esc then the guide get's closed

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noaxess_kubuntu:

i will search the option

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noaxess_kubuntu:

you mean

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: It's in "Program Guide"

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sphery:

page 2, BTW

[21:01:24]

noaxess_kubuntu:

ok.. searching trough the german words.. i think i sould switch to eng frontend language ;)

[21:01:24]

sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: Also, note that there's a setting there: Record Threshold: If the option to use Select to change the channel is on, pressing Select on a show that is at least this many minutes into the future will schedule a recording.

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sphery:

only parts of that I might be able to translate are the "the"'s (die, right?)

[21:02:43]

sphery:

Aufnahmeschwellwert (Min.)

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: jep.. found it :)

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sphery:

Nur bei aktiver "Umschalten bei Select" Option gÃ¼ltig. Liegt der Beginn einer Sendung mindestens so viele Minuten in der Zukunft, so wird nach drÃ¼cken der "Select" Taste eine neue Aufnahme geplant statt auf diesen Sender umzuschalten.

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sphery:

don't see any die's, so it turns out I know less German than I thought.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

.. :)

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noaxess_kubuntu:

the is die .. yes

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sphery:

Oh, so I guess it's just a different wording in German.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

aha now i understand the option Record Threshold :) nice..

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noaxess_kubuntu:

now i just have two display problems to solve..

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noaxess_kubuntu:

i use mythbuntu.. with xfce4

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noaxess_kubuntu:

can i talk about this her.. or should i go tho xfce4 or mythbuntu irc channel?

[21:07:39]

sphery:

|Torg|: perhaps it's the audio causing problems with your H.264. It says, "Audio Profiles: 2 channel AAC low complexity (LC)". Does HD-PVR do 5.1?

[21:08:22]

sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: you're allowed to talk about it, but whether we can (or choose to) help I won't know 'til you ask.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

:)

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sphery:

Usually if someone asks something that's too far off topic someone will suggest going elsewhere.

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noaxess_kubuntu:

okay.. if a start my system.. and you need to know.. that i have a projector attached at the systemm.. on the login window, there is a aspect ratio of 1920x100.. or something like this... after login.. it change normal to 1024x768.. i think it is a xorg.conf problem.

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|Torg|:

no the HD-PVR only does AAC 2 channel currently

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noaxess_kubuntu:

after login.. all works fine, also mythtv

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sphery:

|Torg|: Oh. "Currently" implies they may support additional? I assume it must have an S/PDIF input, right?

[21:11:08]

|Torg|:

it does, but the current firmware does not support capture though it

[21:11:16]

sphery:

cool

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|Torg|:

Selected audio codec: [faad] afm: faad (FAAD AAC (MPEG-2/MPEG-4 Audio) decoder)

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|Torg|:

O: [oss] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)

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sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: so your projector is 1024x768 and you want the GDM (or whatever login manager) to run at that res?

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: yes sir..

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|Torg|:

so they apear to be 2 channel AAC, when I try capture with the spdif it looks as if it tryes to AC3 it, but the fourcc coems out wrong

[21:12:43]

sphery:

noaxess_kubuntu: Then I won't be able to help. (I don't run a display manager and I don't know *buntu, either.)

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noaxess_kubuntu:

sphery: no problem..

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noaxess_kubuntu:

will find also a solution for this ;)

[21:14:21]

|Torg|:

intersting enough tho is mplayer tryes to play with correctly with ac3/dts apssthoug, it has multiple ac3 sync errors tho

[21:14:57]

|Torg|:

I wish I knew a nice "fixup" for it, but they are unplayable if captured via spdif with ffmpeg, coreavc. mplayer and myths internal player

[21:15:49]

|Torg|:

an noaxess_kubuntu the res of your login manager, desktop and any WM is all defines my your mode slection in X, just setup X properly

[21:16:32]

noaxess_kubuntu:

|Torg|: i see..

[21:16:42]

|Torg|:

if you want you can have your system use one res to log in, one to display myths menus and multiple for each video res

[21:17:16]

dustybin:

mythtv is a clever sod :-)

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|Torg|:

I dont like it as X does not switch cleanly on my system, and my tv lags when switcheng res, so I simply keep it at 1080@30hz perminantly

[21:26:28]

|Torg|:

hm my xbox360 dosnt even like big buck bunny, im not entirely certain its true that it supports h264 at anything

[21:28:13]

GreyFoxx:

I've played some h264 encoded avis before

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|Torg|:

I thinn I figured it out, I dont normmaly keep it connected and apparently I have to FORCE it to update, after this it should work

[21:29:10]

GreyFoxx:

and some apps like handbrake havge "360" propfiles you can pick for ripping and encoding dvds to h264

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|Torg|:

well I would like to see it play my h264 dvd archives, but mostly its just playing with the xbox, since both you and sphery told em it works

[21:30:07]

|Torg|:

now im going to make it work damnit :)

[21:30:20]

directhex:

you MUST use proper h264 profiles

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directhex:

it's fine with all my 4.1 profile dvdrips

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|Torg|:

and here stupid me just ripped dvds into what I thought looked ok for size, I should have asked M$ frist what was "proper" h264 :P

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|Torg|:

ill have to google what that profile is

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Dabian:

Hi again ... how do I find out for sure which remote I have?

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cesman:

Dabian: look at it?

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Dabian:

lsusb (which seems to be the usual way, going from the website), doesn't seem to work.

[21:47:45]

Dabian:

cesman : There is not much text on it.

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Dabian:

RC6 IR

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Dabian:

RC6 ir, even.

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cesman:

Dabian: where did you get the remore? Did it come w/ a card?

[21:48:10]

Dabian:

Yeah

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Dabian:

It came with my PVR500

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cesman:

is it USB?

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Dabian:

I've had it for about half a year now, I guess, and I still didn't manage get it working.

[21:48:40]

cesman:

or does it plug directly into the card?

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Dabian:

Yeah, the receiver is USB.

[21:48:58]

cesman:

then it is most likely MCE remote compatible

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Dabian:

RXX6000–0141E

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Dabian:

Right .. I have the mceusb2 (or similar) module loaded.

[21:49:45]

Dabian:

lirc_mceusb2

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cesman:

ok, so what is the problem exactly?

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Dabian:

I am using Ubuntu (hardy)

[21:50:08]

cesman:

the remote doesn't work or it doesn't work in MythTV?

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Dabian:

I don't know if it works .. I only want to use it for MythTV (at least for now)

[21:50:58]

Dabian:

There is a red led in the reciever that ligts up when I click buttons on it, but Myth Seems to ignore it.

[21:51:07]

cesman:

if the modules loads, then one can assume your hardware.conf is ok

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Dabian:

OK

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cesman:

is your /etc/lirc/lircd.conf for the remote?

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Dabian:

Lemme check

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cesman:

you can usually just more the file and it should tell you up top

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Dabian:

include /usr/share/lirc/remotes/mceusb/lircd.conf.mceusb

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cesman:

if that is ok, then run 'irw'

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Dabian:

cool

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Dabian:

It tells me which button I press on the remote. :)

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cesman:

Dabian: I cannot tell you specifically about the files Ubuntu is using, just how it should work and offer you steps in testing

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Dabian:

OK, thats cool.

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cesman:

ok, then the next step in the process is ~/.mythtv/lircrc

[21:53:04]

cesman:

that is the file MythTV uses

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Dabian:

ahh .. thats an old one

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Dabian:

I had a PVR350 I borrowed from a friend

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Dabian:

Seems the config is still there.

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cesman:

then run mythfrontend

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cesman:

your remote should work

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cesman:

it is doesn't I'd suspect ~/.mythtv/lircrc

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Dabian:

I removed the file .. the old remote was build in the card.

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Dabian:

well, actually I just moved it out of the way.

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cesman:

ahhh ok

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Dabian:

Hmm .. seems I need to generate a new ~/.mythtv/lircrc ...

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cesman:

or google

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Dabian:

I guess I can use this? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/MCE_Remo . . . _config_file

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Dabian:

Wow .. it works!

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Dabian:

Thank you cesman!

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cesman:

you're welcome

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Dabian:

I simply couldn't figure out where the problem was. :)

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cesman:

It helps when you've been using MythTV for over 5 years and have your own distro ;)

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Dabian:

OK :)

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Dabian:

Can I know which distro you have? I am getting curious :)

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cesman:

KnoppMyth:The Linux Media Entertainment Distribution!

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Dabian:

Neat

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Dabian:

Sounds like the distro you want for your dedicated media server?

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Dabian:

server / or whatever its called.

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cesman:

BTW:I'd suggest you ln -s ~/.mythtv/lircrc ~/.lircrc

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Dabian:

(My sis and her boyfriend have a computer they plan to use only for music, pictures, movies and TV and stuff.

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Dabian:

OK, thanks. :)

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cesman:

that way you only have one file to mess with...

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cesman:

Dabian: Thanks, I'd like to think it is ;)

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Dabian:

Right .. not good to mess with two files .. they'll never keep up to date. :)

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cesman:

generally speaking, most programs use ~/.lircrc

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Dabian:

cesman : Right now they do not have a PVR500 ... the price has raised a lot .. so they hesitate to buy it .. but I tell them there is really little choice. Its hard to do with only a PVR150 when you get used to having two tuners. :)

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cesman:

so, if you'd like to use your remote with mplayer for instance...

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Dabian:

Then I need the symbolic link, right?

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Dabian:

Cool .. I never used my remote with mplayer before. :)

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cesman:

Dabian: yes, that would be the best way (IMHO) to handle it...

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Dabian:

cool

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Dabian:

Its fantastic .. I had this stuff for half a year now .. and then you point me to the rc file .. and everything just works. :)

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cesman:

Dabian: :)

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Dabian:

Is this the official website? http://www.mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html

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Dabian:

For KnoppMyth, that is.

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cesman:

yes

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cesman:

we also have a channel on here #knoppmyth

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Dabian:

Nice :)

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sphery:

javatexan: There is a "test recorder" implemented that allows you to configure an MPEG encoder card, but for the device specify a single MPEG-2 file's filename and it will record from that file (looping as necessary to fill the time), but I don't think that's what you want.

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sphery:

javatexan: As far as the IPTV recorder goes, see "IP Recorder" at http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1

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javatexan:

okay I am looking at this webpage to setup IPTV... http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Multiple . . . t_for_MythTV

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sphery:

javatexan: AFAIU, VLC should be able to make a stream that works (though the docs say TS, it may also allow a PS).

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sphery:

javatexan: yeah, the MythTV HOWTO doesn't explain how to set up the IPTV recorder (just mentions some info on how it works). So, really that little bit on the Multiple REcordings with VLC page is the best HOWTO for the IPTV recorder.

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javatexan:

okay..thanks

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sphery:

GreyFoxx is the author of that page, so if you see him in here, he might be able to give you actual answers on how it works.

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javatexan:

It sounds like in this guys case he is assuming that it is using QAM256....I am assuming that mythtv converts that signal using a codec into a "fill in file type here, I guess mpeg pes or mpeg2". I am not sure what mythtv does with this file, if it assumes that it needs to demux the signals (video PES or mpeg and audio PES or mpeg) into a single mpeg2 file or not. For all I know all mythtv records could actually be two files: a v

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javatexan:

thanks sphery...I will leave this question up and hopefully it will be answered...I can search the logs later...if I fall asleep..LOL

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sphery:

javatexan: I think, though, that you just have to configure VLC to stream the video using RTSP and all will work.

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sphery:

don't worry about the QAM, that's just how his capture cards are getting to the video stream (and is gone before VLC)

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javatexan:

i think so too

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javatexan:

vlc will definitely read the files I have....I was just hoping not to have to have it running too....LOL....also, if mythtv is setup for IPTV, how does it get its information about the show?

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sphery:

So, just stream MPEG-2 or MPEG-4 (part 2 or part 10) from VLC (transcoding on the fly, if necessary--and if possible ;) and set up an m3u playlist for Myth.

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javatexan:

thats my plan

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sphery:

You can use EXTMYTHTV to specify an XMLTVID in the m3u .

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javatexan:

Okay....I am actually asking how I would insert things like program name, ratings, actors, etc

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javatexan:

sorry....

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GreyFoxx:

vlc sourcevideo.mpg --sout '#duplicate{dst=standard{access=udp,mux=ts,url=192.168.0.11:1231,sap,group=" ;MyStation",name="MooCow"}'

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GreyFoxx:

change the sourcevideo.mpg and destination url info as needed

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javatexan:

GreyFoxx: you rock dude

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javatexan:

and Sphery too

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** GreyFoxx goes back to TV :) **

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sphery:

Actually, GreyFoxx is the one with the mad knowledge.

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sphery:

thanks for the help GreyFoxx.

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dustybin:

haha excelllent

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dustybin:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7467857.stm

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|Torg|:

current bid AU $2,201,000.00

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dustybin:

bloody heck its true

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dustybin:

http://www.amazon.com/Al-Qaeda-Training-Manua . . . &sr=8-20

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jduggan:

shit

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dustybin:

WTF

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|Torg|:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ALife4Sale-Life-For-Sa . . . cmdZViewItem

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** |Torg| now knows what dustbin bids on :P **

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dustybin:

haha

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javatexan:

wow that is messed up

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javatexan:

can I sell my wife and kids too....j/k.....:)

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|Torg|:

actaully that would lower the bid price :P

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|Torg|:

its gota be the stupidest thing I have heard in a while

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directhex:

which codecs do multithreaded encoding?

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tplague:

i get no sound in internet streaming ( shoutcast )

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tplague:

can anyone help me ?

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