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| [00:12:59] | wagner: | thats some expensive meat to be wasting on hamburgers |
| [00:22:48] | AndyCap: | can't say that rice or potatoes are any fancier than bread |
| [00:23:40] | wagner: | yeah, but youre grinding up meat that does not need grinding |
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| [00:30:40] | AndyCap: | wagner: that's a point, and uhh. wth? why do you marinate the burgers? |
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| [01:01:42] | bunder: | anyone here work for SD/TMS/zap2it? |
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| [01:08:07] | wagner: | guess not |
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| [01:10:11] | MinDKrime: | can anyone help me with sound? I can play stereo thru /dev/dsp but no ALSA. |
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| [01:10:25] | MinDKrime: | I can play ASLA with mplayer |
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| [01:42:48] | lanuser: | Good evening |
| [01:47:21] | clever: | yay |
| [01:47:24] | clever: | my upnp crashed again |
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| [02:04:46] | wagner: | i installed a frontend on my desktop, and near the end of the file, it no longer seeks properly |
| [02:05:32] | wagner: | ive not noticed such issues under the windows player or on the main frontend |
| [02:06:00] | wagner: | mplayer refuses to seek altogether |
| [02:07:01] | clever: | and there crashed upnp again! |
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| [02:10:15] | clever: | ahhh, that libqt4-debug i installed yesterday will help greatly in fixing this |
| [02:10:29] | clever: | before my backtraces where a jumbled mess because qt didnt save the stack frame |
| [02:10:57] | clever: | i just need to wait for it to crash again now |
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| [03:26:45] | tcpsyn: | AFD Error: Could not find decoder for codec (AAC), ignoring. |
| [03:26:52] | tcpsyn: | does anyone know where I can get this codec? |
| [03:26:57] | tcpsyn: | only happens on x264 media |
| [03:27:01] | tcpsyn: | the video plays fine |
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| [03:34:37] | wagner: | try libfaac |
| [03:35:56] | wagner: | and its occurring on h.264 video, x264 is just one encoder implementation |
| [03:38:17] | wagner: | is this in mplayer? or mythtv? or what player? |
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| [03:45:53] | NightMonkey: | Hi all. How can I execute a shell command before a recording starts? I looked through mythtv-setup, with no luck. |
| [03:46:22] | NightMonkey: | I want to force a drive to spin-up before a recording starts (preferrably some minutes before). |
| [03:47:12] | NightMonkey: | If I can execute "hdparm -z /dev/<idle drive>" I'll be golden. |
| [03:47:14] | wagner: | nightmonkey: what for, linux will spin up the drive as it needs once it starts filling the disk cache |
| [03:47:36] | NightMonkey: | wagner: I've set spin-down, which can take 30 seconds to spin up from. |
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| [03:48:16] | NightMonkey: | wagner: The amount of data that Linux is asked to queue from a recording appears to be too much, and it blocks. |
| [03:48:42] | JohnMahowald: | On a side note, I am amused by the amount of options to hdparm labeled DANGEROUS |
| [03:48:52] | wagner: | even at 30 seconds, thats at most 50MB that you have to cache in memory before it starts dumping to disk |
| [03:48:59] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Ah, and I've disabled write-caching, for data-crash-integrity's sake. |
| [03:49:57] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Also, I'm striping across LVM, where the 2nd disk of a two-disk set is spun down – might be the reason for additional blocking over just a single disk. |
| [03:50:31] | wagner: | yeah, ive had issues with spin-down and RAID systems |
| [03:50:56] | wagner: | although im assuming youre using spanning rather than striping |
| [03:51:10] | wagner: | if you were striping, both would spin up and down at the same time |
| [03:51:24] | NightMonkey: | wagner: I don't want to disable spin-down, as my Myth box is a Shuttle, and heat issues become a problem (which spin-down nicely makes better). |
| [03:51:54] | JohnMahowald: | Uh, doesn't one usually add cooling if a box overheats |
| [03:52:18] | wagner: | thats the sensible thing to do |
| [03:52:24] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Well, I'm not striping strictly one-disk and one-disk. I'm striping one-partion and one-disk. So, the first disk (which has /, /usr, /var, etc and a LVM partition for recordings) never spins down. |
| [03:52:29] | wagner: | anyway, id look into how to do external channel switching |
| [03:52:41] | NightMonkey: | JohnMahowald: Not if it is in my TV room (fan speed). |
| [03:53:15] | wagner: | actually, it would probably be easiest to just write a script to do it |
| [03:53:34] | wagner: | have something poll the sql database once a minute or so |
| [03:53:34] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Ah, I've already got an external channel change script controlling a serial IR emitter. |
| [03:53:44] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Oh, interesting. |
| [03:53:47] | wagner: | and if it detects a recording in the next minute, it spins up |
| [03:54:13] | wagner: | you could probably do it in a dozen lines or so |
| [03:54:18] | NightMonkey: | Well, this answers my question – there's not already a way to do a pre-recording script. :) |
| [03:54:42] | wagner: | no, usually the only thing done pre-recording is channel changing |
| [03:55:17] | NightMonkey: | wagner: I guess I could add the hdparm to the channel changing script, and have every recording start 1 minute early. |
| [03:55:18] | wagner: | to be honest, why not just enable write caching |
| [03:55:36] | wagner: | since the recordings are on their own partition, just enable write caching on that one partition |
| [03:55:53] | wagner: | if the machine goes down, your just going to delete the recording anyway |
| [03:55:59] | wagner: | so data loss isnt an issue |
| [03:56:21] | wagner: | thats just a mount option in fstab right? |
| [03:56:46] | NightMonkey: | wagner: I've had Myth (and ivtv) crash the box about once a month for several months, so I don't want to wake up with an unreadable recordings partition. |
| [03:57:25] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Ah, no, I've disabled write caching in the hard drive firmware. Actually, I didn't disable Linux VFS write caching. Hrm. |
| [03:57:41] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Maybe I need to *increase* VFS write caching... |
| [03:58:15] | wagner: | i dont know why you would ever disable the on-drive cache |
| [03:58:51] | wagner: | AFAIK, you only risk corrupting the files you are working on |
| [03:58:55] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Again, data integrity. |
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| [03:59:32] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Write cache on disk is bad for journaled filesystems, and for striping. |
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| [04:00:37] | wagner: | the only risk to the on-disk cache is from a complete power failure |
| [04:00:45] | wagner: | a crash wont bother it |
| [04:02:32] | wagner: | well anyway, you might be able to rig something up with the channel switcher, but an external script is probably the easiest option |
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| [04:03:51] | NightMonkey: | wagner: I guess it's just force of habit. When I've built servers, I just never count on power (even with UPSes). Power supplies fail too often. |
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| [04:04:20] | NightMonkey: | wagner: Thanks. |
| [04:04:44] | wagner: | well for servers, the cache seems even more important, considering they have had TCQ for long before consumer drives have |
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| [05:57:52] | gpd: | I have really poor signal coming from my external aerial [that i have no control over], some of my channels on mythtv are corrupting. is a signal booster a good option / do they work? |
| [06:03:56] | wagner: | i want to say signal amps are a bad idea with digital modulation, but i have no basis for that |
| [06:04:38] | gpd: | I guess there are no other options than attaching my own areial then? |
| [06:04:40] | wagner: | i think i remember hearing something along those lines, but it would have been several years ago |
| [06:04:53] | wagner: | im reading through reviews of some device on amazon |
| [06:05:09] | wagner: | and i think i may have heard that they screw with digital cable and cable modems |
| [06:05:48] | wagner: | i suppose the analog broadcasts run on a different frequency than the digital signals and cause problems |
| [06:05:59] | wagner: | however ATSC is the same frequency as the analog broadcasts |
| [06:06:20] | wagner: | if nothing else, you can probably pick one up at radio shack for $30, and return it if it doesnt work |
| [06:07:32] | gpd: | Ok – thanks for your help – will look into it a bit further and report bck. |
| [06:09:57] | wagner: | maybe its that digital cable/internet is a bidirectional signal, and these are unidirectional amps |
| [06:10:12] | gpd: | Ok – looks like there are specific Digital TV signal boosters for Freeview (UK) signals |
| [06:10:17] | gpd: | http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo= . . . mp;U=strat15 |
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| [06:13:32] | wagner: | yeah, seems its just a problem with digital cable, and more specifically cable modems and on-demand services |
| [06:13:54] | wagner: | the amps attenuate the signal in the opposite direction, preventing them from connecting |
| [06:14:01] | wagner: | however on DVB, thats not an issue |
| [06:14:12] | gpd: | ok- great – thanks again |
| [06:14:45] | wagner: | dont quote me on that, im talking out of my ass from stuff im reading on amazon |
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| [06:52:39] | floppyears: | hi guys |
| [06:53:03] | floppyears: | does anybody here use mythtv on mac os x ? |
| [06:53:27] | nuonguy: | I've used mythfrontend on macos x |
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| [07:08:19] | Puh_: | i also run a frontend on osx |
| [07:08:39] | Puh_: | it hogs a lot of cpu but works fine otherwise |
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| [07:17:25] | AlNahar: | hi friends |
| [07:17:38] | AlNahar: | if i want to transfer a recording, what's the best thing to do to it to make it smaller? |
| [07:18:15] | AlNahar: | i recorded it with my wintv pvr 150mce card |
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| [07:55:47] | BaZiL: | anyone here awake ? |
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| [08:47:36] | adante: | rrrr so frustrating |
| [08:47:58] | adante: | all was working fine now suddenly mythtv is playing back recordings really jittery |
| [08:48:32] | adante: | and yet cpu utilisation doesn't go above 20% |
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| [09:50:37] | rooaus: | Things that make you go hmmm: http://apcmag.com/windowsbased_eeepc_cheaper_than_linux_one.htm |
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| [10:03:06] | janneg: | rooaus: that's only in austraulia. In europe and the us both cost approximately the same and you get 8G more SSD with the linux version |
| [10:09:33] | janneg: | there are rumours that a price drop for WinXP licenses has caused this |
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| [10:15:55] | rooaus: | janneg: Yeah, I found it interesting that Microsoft may have done a deal of some sort, I interpret that to mean that Microsoft are taking Linux seriously. |
| [10:16:07] | jduggan: | id pay more to keep windows off my notebook |
| [10:18:58] | rooaus: | And although the linux may have little or no license fee, Asus still need to consider the user support costs for Linux. There may be a difference between the windows users and Linux users support costs. |
| [10:21:40] | rooaus: | jduggan: Yeah, I wouldn't buy the windows version if they were the same spec, I feel strongly enough that I wouldn't want to distort their sales figures. |
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| [10:31:22] | Slim-Kimbo: | I have and it works great, not using it at the moment though |
| [10:32:30] | Slim-Kimbo: | Mac osx mythfrontend |
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| [11:06:29] | psofa: | can mythtv-fixes do non-multiproto dvb-s2 scanning/tuning? |
| [11:08:08] | Dibblah: | psofa: I don't believe it can without a patch. |
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| [15:52:21] | famicom: | eh |
| [15:52:38] | famicom: | is there any way i can feed xmltv a raw cache file |
| [15:52:39] | famicom: | as in |
| [15:52:48] | famicom: | i have the file i want on my hd |
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| [17:41:55] | wagner: | famicon: like a browser cache file? |
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| [18:05:34] | MinDKrime: | Uggg... This AC3 passthrought is killing me! |
| [18:05:52] | MinDKrime: | passthrough* |
| [18:06:04] | MinDKrime: | anyone have a CK805 working with passthrough? |
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| [18:10:32] | MinDKrime: | sorry it is an CK804 (it on a nforce4 board) |
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| [18:10:54] | Gianluc1: | hello |
| [18:11:00] | raslac: | I've found several people with a similar problem as me on various forums and the mythtv-users mailing list — all are pretty much unresolved, but a handful of people say, "It works for me." It's S/PDIF output on a 690G/SB600 motherboard (the Asus M2A-VM HDMI, specifically). 2-channel digital audio works fine, but not 6-channel from mythtv. From the command line, `mplayer -channels 6 -ac hwdts test.dts` and `mplayer -channels 6 - |
| [18:11:00] | raslac: | any sound at all (digital static) with Passthrough enabled in mythtv if I have ALSA:default as the audio device. No sound with any of the other choices, with or without passthrough enabled. |
| [18:12:26] | MinDKrime: | yea that is what I have seen to :( |
| [18:12:33] | MinDKrime: | I have been searching for days |
| [18:12:37] | MinDKrime: | hehe |
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| [18:12:54] | MinDKrime: | I have ALSA:default in the output devices |
| [18:13:35] | MinDKrime: | but most of my recordings are HD.. so i can watch just not listen :( |
| [18:13:53] | MinDKrime: | and recommendations on a sound card? I need optical out... |
| [18:14:20] | wagner: | why optical and not just spdif? |
| [18:14:43] | Gianluc1: | is there anybody who uses transcoding or knows about the best practice on how to store all the recorded movies? |
| [18:14:44] | raslac: | I'm hesitant to blame my sound card, since mplayer outputs flawlessly |
| [18:14:49] | Gianluc1: | I need some advice.. |
| [18:14:52] | MinDKrime: | I have all the other connection on the back of my Pioneer filled |
| [18:15:13] | MinDKrime: | raslac: you have the same issue? |
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| [18:15:51] | raslac: | my issue is I get no 6-channel output along spdif in mythtv |
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| [18:16:16] | MinDKrime: | humm |
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| [18:16:28] | MinDKrime: | so you have not passthrough? |
| [18:16:29] | raslac: | I think I joined after you mentioned yoru issue |
| [18:16:36] | wagner: | mindkrime: ok, because they use some pretty shitty optics for toslink, such that you actually get more range out of coaxial |
| [18:16:52] | EvilGuru: | MinDKrime: I believe the new ASUS Xonar cards ship with a coax SPDIF which can double up as optical |
| [18:17:48] | raslac: | it seems to be fairly common for the headers on the motherboards to be both coax and optical (the way I understand it, the optical just needs another pin for voltage to drive the LED) |
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| [18:18:45] | wagner: | raslac: pretty much, you can find instructions online for how to build a cheap spdif to toslink adapter |
| [18:19:43] | raslac: | *nod* my comment was response to MinDKrime asking for sound card advice |
| [18:19:50] | MinDKrime: | would i have the same issue with optical as coax? |
| [18:20:13] | wagner: | mindkrime: most likely yes |
| [18:20:29] | EvilGuru: | MinDKrime: Both should be the same, unless your coax cable is not shielded properly, or your cable length is extreme |
| [18:21:53] | MinDKrime: | Well it was working on Fedora 3 and .20 myth |
| [18:22:00] | raslac: | have you tried passthrough with mplayer? (just looked at channel logs online to see your question) |
| [18:22:09] | MinDKrime: | humm |
| [18:22:11] | MinDKrime: | no |
| [18:22:23] | MinDKrime: | let me look up that syntax and try |
| [18:22:38] | MinDKrime: | The question is: I do not have passthrough on a ck804 |
| [18:22:42] | raslac: | mplayer -channels 6 -ac hwac3 dvd:// |
| [18:23:18] | MinDKrime: | can it be something else beside dvd? |
| [18:23:22] | Gianluc1: | ppl, after running mythtranscode I get a file that can not be played with Totem Movie Player... any idea why??? |
| [18:23:23] | MinDKrime: | i dont have a dvd in there |
| [18:23:33] | MinDKrime: | ahh ill put one in 1 sec :) |
| [18:23:35] | raslac: | sure it can, just use the filename instead of dvd |
| [18:24:19] | wagner: | gianluc1: is it just totem, or can you not play it with other players either? |
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| [18:25:45] | MinDKrime: | I dont hear anything |
| [18:25:49] | MinDKrime: | but i shows playing |
| [18:26:17] | Gianluc1: | wagner: I am trying in Windows with VLC, and the file can be read and played! |
| [18:26:24] | Gianluc1: | I don't have other players on that linux box |
| [18:26:40] | Gianluc1: | wagner: also, before the transcode I marked the commercials and set the cut points |
| [18:26:49] | wagner: | my first guess is that totem isnt compiled with the proper codecs |
| [18:27:26] | Gianluc1: | wagner: it might be... mmmm .... and what about the cutpoints? I have transcoded with --honorcuts, but it did not work |
| [18:27:37] | MinDKrime: | i wonder what that means.... |
| [18:27:39] | Gianluc1: | did I forget something? |
| [18:27:44] | wagner: | dont know, never transcoded anything with mythtv before |
| [18:27:57] | Gianluc1: | I c |
| [18:27:58] | MinDKrime: | i just doubel check my alsamixeer and everythign looks rigth there |
| [18:29:10] | raslac: | take the cable out of yoru receiver and shine it on a piece of white paper and see if it flashes? lol |
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| [18:30:02] | MinDKrime: | when it is playing? |
| [18:30:15] | MinDKrime: | ALl my sound (even stereo is using it) |
| [18:30:20] | MinDKrime: | All* |
| [18:30:48] | MinDKrime: | going to try now :) |
| [18:31:25] | raslac: | I dunno.. I can't get any sound out of mythtv if I choose spdif or iec958 or digital, so I'm not really qualified to answer I think |
| [18:34:00] | MinDKrime: | hehe |
| [18:34:02] | MinDKrime: | it solid |
| [18:34:41] | raslac: | I've never tried that.. I don't know if signals along an optical cable can be visually detectable or not.. hence the LOL =) |
| [18:34:57] | MinDKrime: | i think it should be solid |
| [18:35:07] | MinDKrime: | :) |
| [18:35:18] | raslac: | better than off, I guess |
| [18:37:05] | MinDKrime: | wow |
| [18:37:07] | MinDKrime: | aplay -D surround51:CARD=CK804,DEV=0 Norrlanda.wav |
| [18:37:09] | MinDKrime: | that works |
| [18:37:11] | MinDKrime: | DTS |
| [18:38:21] | raslac: | I thought "surround51" was an analog channel |
| [18:38:44] | MinDKrime: | no idea. |
| [18:39:02] | MinDKrime: | it just lite up my receiver with 5.1 DTS |
| [18:39:24] | MinDKrime: | so now I need to find out what that translates to for the passthrough device |
| [18:40:17] | raslac: | aplay complains that my wav files aren't PCM-coded |
| [18:40:28] | MinDKrime: | yea |
| [18:40:31] | MinDKrime: | you need one |
| [18:40:34] | MinDKrime: | 1 sec i have a link |
| [18:40:57] | raslac: | it also complains about my .ac3 and .dts test files :) |
| [18:41:40] | MinDKrime: | http://hologram.homeip.net/blog/tiki-index.php?page=MythTvInfo |
| [18:42:07] | MinDKrime: | norrlanda.zip is the one I am running |
| [18:42:49] | raslac: | thanks, downloading that one now |
| [18:43:19] | MinDKrime: | so how to I translate that to passthtough |
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| [18:43:47] | MinDKrime: | I thought it was analog too |
| [18:43:53] | MinDKrime: | they why I have not tried it |
| [18:44:06] | MinDKrime: | but I am trying everything now.... |
| [18:44:08] | raslac: | did you try -D iec958 ? |
| [18:44:48] | MinDKrime: | yes |
| [18:44:54] | MinDKrime: | says it is playing but i hear nothing |
| [18:45:07] | MinDKrime: | and receiver not seeing it |
| [18:45:27] | MinDKrime: | aplay -L does not see iec958 :( |
| [18:45:37] | raslac: | that might be a problem |
| [18:45:49] | raslac: | does it show any digital out? |
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| [18:46:37] | MinDKrime: | not here but ion asound.name it does |
| [18:47:02] | MinDKrime: | ion = in* |
| [18:47:05] | MinDKrime: | sorry late night |
| [18:47:21] | raslac: | what's its name in asound.name? |
| [18:47:35] | raslac: | and I'm assuming you've tried it, too |
| [18:49:10] | raslac: | ok, aplay -D iec958 Norrlanda.wav works for me |
| [18:49:17] | MinDKrime: | name spdif:0 |
| [18:49:32] | MinDKrime: | comment 'Abstract Device – S/PDIF (IEC958) Optical or Coaxial Wire (Playback)' |
| [18:49:40] | MinDKrime: | tried that |
| [18:50:08] | raslac: | aplay -D spdif Norrlanda.wav works for me too |
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| [18:51:52] | MinDKrime: | humm |
| [18:51:56] | MinDKrime: | but not in myth? |
| [18:51:59] | raslac: | I don't have a "spdif" in my aplay -L but one shows up in myth |
| [18:52:36] | raslac: | let me see if I can play that wav file in the myth internal player |
| [18:57:38] | raslac: | I've not used mythtv for anything more than tv streams before, so I'm a newbie for mythmusic and mythvideo... I loaded up the wav in mythmusic... my non-pcm wave played fine. Norrlanda played as 2-channel static |
| [18:57:54] | MinDKrime: | humm |
| [18:58:06] | MinDKrime: | but in aplay it was 5.1 dts? |
| [18:58:06] | raslac: | my options are currently not set to passthrough, iirc, though.. lemme try that |
| [18:59:23] | raslac: | same 2 channel static with dts passthrough turned on.. yes, aplay it was 5.1dts |
| [19:01:24] | MinDKrime: | humm |
| [19:01:29] | MinDKrime: | this is crazy |
| [19:01:31] | MinDKrime: | heheh |
| [19:01:42] | raslac: | I've been at this problem for 4 days now |
| [19:01:49] | MinDKrime: | mplayer Norrlanda.wav -ao alsa:.... ? |
| [19:02:12] | raslac: | asking me if I've tried it? or what to complete that with? |
| [19:02:58] | MinDKrime: | sorry trie that |
| [19:03:00] | MinDKrime: | tried |
| [19:03:09] | MinDKrime: | I am looking for a syntax that works for me |
| [19:03:43] | raslac: | mplayer -ac hwdts Norrlanda.wav isn't working for me.. mplayer seems to think it should send ac3 to my receiver and gets a bunch of CRC checks fail |
| [19:04:16] | MinDKrime: | it also says it is 2ch for me |
| [19:04:18] | MinDKrime: | AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 2ch s16le (2 bytes per sample) |
| [19:04:34] | raslac: | same |
| [19:05:02] | raslac: | er, except it says 1 bytes per sample |
| [19:05:45] | MinDKrime: | DTS: 5.1 (3f+2r+lfe) |
| [19:05:53] | MinDKrime: | but it still plays 2ch |
| [19:09:08] | raslac: | looks like I need to put it down a couple of hours again.. thanks for the assistance |
| [19:09:15] | raslac: | maybe fresher eyes will help |
| [19:09:31] | MinDKrime: | :D |
| [19:09:33] | MinDKrime: | np |
| [19:09:38] | MinDKrime: | thx for your help |
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| [19:34:49] | raslac: | still around MinDKrime? |
| [19:34:51] | MinDKrime: | yes |
| [19:34:57] | MinDKrime: | still dorking around with it |
| [19:35:26] | raslac: | well, I've managed to get mythtv outputting what my receiver thinks is 5.1, but no audio. |
| [19:35:36] | MinDKrime: | ? |
| [19:35:38] | MinDKrime: | with? |
| [19:35:44] | raslac: | http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/ . . . /157479.html |
| [19:36:33] | MinDKrime: | let me try |
| [19:36:34] | MinDKrime: | 1 sec |
| [19:36:41] | raslac: | the aplay command errors out, complaining about number of channels, but the command-line muting/unmuting seems to make a difference... but in the end, no real benfit, since there's still no audio :) |
| [19:38:56] | raslac: | you'd think with folks having these same troubles for years there would be more resolutions in the archives. |
| [19:39:49] | MinDKrime: | yea :( you are using internal volume control? |
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| [19:43:04] | raslac: | I have internal control checked, but it doesn't seem to make any difference |
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| [19:45:58] | MinDKrime: | same here |
| [19:47:18] | raslac: | on the current NBC ATSC stream, my receiver thinks it's getting a 5.1 signal, and occasionally there are some pops and clicks, but nothin' |
| [19:47:29] | raslac: | (this is after the mute/unmute thing) |
| [19:47:56] | MinDKrime: | i hav that too :)( |
| [19:47:59] | MinDKrime: | :( |
| [19:48:08] | MinDKrime: | it plays for a sec then nothing |
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| [19:49:23] | raslac: | in http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/DigitalOut they mention setting your spdif to "PCM Out". I find no way to do that in alsamixer |
| [19:49:48] | raslac: | yet his example is http://alsa.opensrc.org/images/7/70/Alsamixer_pcmout.png shows PCM Out |
| [19:49:53] | MinDKrime: | alsamixer |
| [19:49:56] | MinDKrime: | goto PCM |
| [19:49:59] | MinDKrime: | arrow up |
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| [19:55:25] | raslac: | no, instead of just on/mute for iec958, that example sets iec958 to "PCM Out" |
| [19:59:40] | MinDKrime: | I have mine say PCM |
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| [19:59:45] | MinDKrime: | not PCM Out |
| [20:01:00] | raslac: | ah, that card has three iec958s two have values of PCM Out, H/W in 0, H/W in 1, IEC958 in L, IEC958 in R. The other one has values of Mute/ On. |
| [20:01:20] | raslac: | in my alsamixer, I only have the one iec958 with mute/on |
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| [20:04:35] | MinDKrime: | what card you have? |
| [20:06:26] | raslac: | onboard realtek acl883 |
| [20:06:42] | raslac: | alc* |
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| [20:09:20] | MinDKrime: | what os? |
| [20:09:25] | MinDKrime: | distro |
| [20:10:19] | sphery: | thoraxe: with 0.21 and above, changing the DPI won't change font size (except for non-themed screens--such as mythtv-setup). You want to change Big/Medium/Small Font in mythtv-setup to change non-themed font size (mythtv-setup). |
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| [20:10:58] | conathan_: | I was just curious what mythtv depends on to change channels on a ivtv hauppauge 500 card |
| [20:11:05] | dustybin: | can mythvideo play a .mkv file? |
| [20:11:15] | sphery: | thoraxe: And generally, you need at least 800x600 resolution (though depending on your configuration, it may be 1024x768) for mythtv-setup screens to fit. Changing the font size will have no effect on whether the screens fit. |
| [20:11:28] | conathan_: | I moved to a 64bit kernel, with a 64bit mythbackend in chroot, and it fails to change channels |
| [20:12:00] | raslac: | MinDKrime: Mythbuntu 8.04 |
| [20:12:44] | sphery: | thoraxe: best bet if you don't have 1024x768 screen is to run mythtv-setup through ssh: i.e. "ssh -Y <hostname>" (no quotes) then run mythtv-setup |
| [20:18:07] | raslac: | ok, really putting it down for a few hours again.. Good luck guys – going back into lurker mode |
| [20:20:25] | justinh: | wheee now that was what I call a weekend |
| [20:21:33] | conathan_: | hmm, apparantly remodprobing fixes my problem, |
| [20:21:37] | conathan_: | ok, all fixed |
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| [20:41:13] | justinh: | time to go headphone shopping. I'm coming out of retirement :) |
| [20:42:26] | Dibblah: | I'm afraid I'm a dedicated in-ear fan now :( |
| [20:43:39] | justinh: | actually I might try my fancy in-ear phones & see what they sound like on a mixer |
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| [20:44:40] | justinh: | used to just bosh about with £20 phones from HMV – they were more sensitive than anything else I could find – needed the sensitivity cos Pioneer mixers had (and still have) gash headphone amps |
| [20:45:10] | Dibblah: | You realise a nice headphone amp takes about an hour to make? |
| [20:45:17] | Dibblah: | Including printing the PCB? |
| [20:45:29] | justinh: | yeah but I hate diddy little boxes |
| [20:45:48] | Dibblah: | Replace the onboard? |
| [20:45:58] | justinh: | LM381, battery, a few caps & robert is your dad's brother |
| [20:46:10] | Dibblah: | LM381?!?!?! |
| [20:46:18] | justinh: | well, LMwhatever |
| [20:46:22] | Dibblah: | Errr... TL082, or similar at least. |
| [20:46:47] | justinh: | blah. DJ phones are typically very insensitive. not unusual for better mixers to have a watt |
| [20:47:55] | rosco_: | Hi, I've finally a functionnal mythtv machine that works very well, except for one thing: I'm using tv-out on a hauppauge HD1300 and when the picture is moving fast, therer is a small horizonal line that apperars and it divide the screen in two part. and the two pats arent aligned anymore. It last for a few seconds but it is really annoying. There is nothing special in the logs. Someone... |
| [20:47:57] | rosco_: | ...got an idea about that ? |
| [20:48:18] | justinh: | anyway I won't be in any position to mod the club mixer – only a monthly residency :) |
| [20:48:21] | rosco_: | oops, it's a 1110, not a 1300. |
| [20:48:35] | justinh: | rosco_: you need to enable deinterlacing man |
| [20:49:00] | justinh: | tv settings – playback – playback profiles. buried in that quagmire somewhere |
| [20:49:31] | rosco_: | justinh: thanks for the advice, i'll look at that. |
| [20:50:07] | justinh: | might just put my dt100 cans on ebay & pick up some sennheiser hd25 jobbies from the spoils |
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| [20:53:24] | justinh: | Dibblah: the club where I'm doing 3rd friday of every month is in a building which has housed 2 venues I've worked at. they're reviving the original venue vibe & allegedly I'm the only person for the job. and I'm cheap |
| [20:53:31] | dustybin: | i managed to get a 1080P .mkv file playing with mythvideo, 5.1 surround worked, but it was jerky as hell, def need a CPU upgrade |
| [20:53:37] | justinh: | late 80s – early 90s dancey dancey :D |
| [20:54:52] | MinDKrime: | I cant get AC3 passthrough going :( |
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| [20:59:13] | EvilGuru: | MinDKrime: #alsa |
| [20:59:29] | MinDKrime: | ahh |
| [20:59:30] | MinDKrime: | thx |
| [20:59:40] | MinDKrime: | ill try that after lunch :D |
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| [21:03:38] | akv: | anyone made/know some kind of interface to view videocasts (revision3 or like) directly from the net via mythtv? |
| [21:03:52] | sphery: | akv: perhaps MythStream http://home.kabelfoon.nl/~moongies/streamtuned.html |
| [21:06:03] | justinh: | mythstream doesn't do torrents, nor is any official plugin ever likely to. people have gone on the record saying as much |
| [21:06:27] | sphery: | Oh. Didn't know "revision3" was a torrent thing... |
| [21:07:34] | akv: | there's also direct download |
| [21:07:56] | iamlindoro: | sphery: That's because people are using ever-more-obfuscated ways of naming their illegal activity (ie "FTA," *cough) ;) |
| [21:08:12] | justinh: | just use your fave downloady client & plop them into a mythvideo directory :) |
| [21:08:47] | justinh: | there are way more than enough *cast feed aggregators these days anyway |
| [21:08:52] | sphery: | iamlindoro: so when people are talking about FTA in the US, they don't mean they're going to all that trouble just to get the NASA channel? |
| [21:09:02] | iamlindoro: | sphery: Hahahaha, exactly |
| [21:09:13] | iamlindoro: | sphery: What they really want is 500 religious channels at their fingertips |
| [21:09:14] | ** sphery feels so naive ** | |
| [21:09:27] | justinh: | I want to believe |
| [21:09:30] | justinh: | :P |
| [21:10:17] | thoraxe: | sphery: hey thanks for the advice earlier |
| [21:10:21] | sphery: | Really, though, when I say, "OTA," I'm talking about the TV they broadcast over-the-air to my house. (Nice of them to do it just for me--as I don't know anyone else who actually owns a TV antenna. :) |
| [21:10:34] | sphery: | thoraxe: hope it's helpful |
| [21:11:05] | iamlindoro: | sphery: At least OTA is pretty legit... It's when that F gets involved that people get sketchy |
| [21:11:20] | thoraxe: | sphery: makes sense. i ended up getting through it by changing reso. i was at 800x600 |
| [21:11:27] | iamlindoro: | s/pretty/completely/ |
| [21:11:35] | thoraxe: | sphery: now i'm just troubleshooting wireless issues with F8. anda bout to try to get the PVR150 blaster to work |
| [21:11:35] | ** sphery wonders if ChrisC35 will notice the topic in #mythtv ** | |
| [21:11:48] | iamlindoro: | They never do |
| [21:12:36] | sphery: | thoraxe: Yeah, depending on your playback profiles (i.e. when the default ones or any more complicated than the default are defined) the TV Settings won't fit in mythtv-setup |
| [21:12:58] | sphery: | iamlindoro: good call :) |
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| [21:13:21] | ChrisC35: | hi |
| [21:13:30] | ChrisC35: | i have an extra box and a wintv card – i want to setup a pvr box for the family. Whats the best way to go? should I install Ubuntu and mythtv, and then any plugins I want? that way I can get pvr + internet on the tv (with a wireless keyboard/mouse)? or shoudl I setup one of the bundled myth+linux all in ones? |
| [21:13:42] | ChrisC35: | i havent done this before but I am familiar with linux. it needs to be easy to use for the wife though |
| [21:13:47] | ** iamlindoro shakes his magic 8-ball ** | |
| [21:13:50] | iamlindoro: | the answer is... |
| [21:13:52] | iamlindoro: | "Mythbuntu" |
| [21:13:53] | sphery: | Sounds like MythBuntu? |
| [21:14:18] | iamlindoro: | Also, it smells like teen spirit |
| [21:14:19] | ** PatrickDK wonders exactly what does mythbuntu sound like ** | |
| [21:14:21] | sphery: | While you're welcome here, too, they also have their own channel at #ubuntu-mythtv |
| [21:14:24] | iamlindoro: | Tastes like chicken |
| [21:14:39] | Lynet: | What doesn't? |
| [21:14:50] | ChrisC35: | how does that compare to just installing ubuntu + mythtv? |
| [21:14:53] | sphery: | PatrickDK: stick the LiveCD in an early-model CD player to find out :) |
| [21:15:07] | PatrickDK: | hehe |
| [21:15:21] | PatrickDK: | it just seems so wrong to have cd's spin at 1x speed though |
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| [21:15:27] | iamlindoro: | Don't all apt-based distros sound like "Moooooo?" |
| [21:15:36] | raslac: | my mythbuntu sounds like 2channels of 6channel output :) |
| [21:15:37] | sphery: | ChrisC35: MythBuntu is basically Ubuntu with all the changes you'll /have/ to make to Ubuntu already made |
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| [21:15:46] | sphery: | then you can make additional changes as desired |
| [21:15:46] | Lynet: | sphery: I suppose it can be emulated on modern hardware with dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/dsp? |
| [21:16:06] | sphery: | Lynet: that should do it... |
| [21:16:06] | iamlindoro: | + faster WM and lots of fancy little third party plugins etc. that you'd never know existed w/o MythBuntu |
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| [21:16:31] | PatrickDK: | apt-get mythbuntu-desktop? |
| [21:16:38] | PatrickDK: | or was it the other way around :) |
| [21:17:03] | Lynet: | sudo apt-get install mythbuntu-desktop |
| [21:19:43] | sphery: | I always wondered why Ubuntu makes Sue do all the work. Seems really unfair |
| [21:20:23] | iamlindoro: | Misogynists |
| [21:20:53] | sphery: | I always learn so much in this channel. |
| [21:21:12] | iamlindoro: | We can fork Ubuntu to a female-friendly distro and mv sudo Loudo |
| [21:21:14] | raslac: | hey, there are boys named Sue |
| [21:21:24] | raslac: | well, maybe one. |
| [21:21:36] | iamlindoro: | And Jane, the hero of Canton. |
| [21:21:48] | sphery: | lol... Lou and Johnnt Cash |
| [21:22:04] | sphery: | s/Johnnt/Johnny/ |
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| [21:23:42] | sphery: | iamlindoro: I was just watching Jane as Casey (in Chuck--just started watching the series and it's pretty good). |
| [21:23:57] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, I like Chuck a lot |
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| [21:24:09] | iamlindoro: | And Yvone Stahjfdsakhjfdskjh is hooooooot |
| [21:24:17] | sphery: | yeah |
| [21:24:34] | sphery: | Strahovski |
| [21:24:44] | iamlindoro: | I like my spelling :) |
| [21:25:03] | sphery: | I still don't know how to pronounce either of them |
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| [21:27:04] | sphery: | wonder if we chased ChrisC35 off with our colorful help or if he's downloading MythBuntu now... |
| [21:27:42] | iamlindoro: | Our answers were compelling and well stated, and he's reading the documentation fully before installing without issues |
| [21:27:45] | iamlindoro: | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH |
| [21:27:50] | iamlindoro: | ok, sorry *tear* |
| [21:28:02] | iamlindoro: | Sometimes I just go too far w/ that stuff |
| [21:28:06] | sphery: | the prophecy says it will happen some day... |
| [21:28:16] | iamlindoro: | One day the one will come |
| [21:28:35] | neztiti: | hi guys – why i cant scan ? |
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| [21:28:45] | sphery: | neztiti: video or music? |
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| [21:29:24] | sphery: | neztiti: or channels... |
| [21:29:41] | sphery: | (I'm starting to lean toward channels.) |
| [21:29:50] | iamlindoro: | Even if he tells you you'll still have to use your psychich powers to answer :) |
| [21:29:54] | neztiti: | sure channels |
| [21:29:55] | iamlindoro: | psychic |
| [21:30:27] | sphery: | what version of Myth? If you have the release version (0.21 from the tarball), there's a bug that will almost definitely cause Myth to crash during the scan. |
| [21:31:02] | neztiti: | its 0.21 fix for ubuntu 7.10 |
| [21:31:04] | sphery: | If you're using release-0-21-fixes from SVN (or a package from one of the major distros), it might work, but tends to fail on multi-core/multi-proc systems |
| [21:31:26] | iamlindoro: | I'll be in my bunk |
| [21:31:39] | sphery: | I think I've heard of some people working around the issue by disabling SMP temporarily while scanning |
| [21:31:43] | neztiti: | yes i have multi proc |
| [21:31:54] | sphery: | and it's crashing when you try a channel scan, right? |
| [21:32:38] | neztiti: | sometimes – but now i have new installtion |
| [21:34:20] | ChrisC35: | ok |
| [21:34:46] | ChrisC35: | no i'm just catching up now |
| [21:34:57] | ChrisC35: | doing laundry :) |
| [21:35:18] | Dibblah: | neztiti: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/setting-process . . . process.html |
| [21:35:20] | ChrisC35: | so mythbuntu is basically an install script |
| [21:35:34] | sphery: | Dibblah: thanks--I've been looking for something like that |
| [21:36:36] | ChrisC35: | on mythbuntu I can use ubuntu and other apps, including the net? |
| [21:36:43] | iamlindoro: | Yes |
| [21:37:02] | iamlindoro: | and it's not really an install script, but however it makes sense to you |
| [21:37:23] | iamlindoro: | The cleanest install of MythBuntu is a fresh install off a MythBuntu ISO |
| [21:37:49] | sphery: | ChrisC35: I don't know MythBuntu, but from my understanding, if you install Ubuntu and then install Myth, you'll have to change around the system configuration to make everything work properly. If you instead install MythBuntu, "the system" is already configured for MythTV, then you can just install other apps as if it were a regular Ubuntu install. |
| [21:38:19] | ChrisC35: | sounds good to me |
| [21:38:26] | PatrickDK: | that sounds annoying |
| [21:38:31] | sphery: | iamlindoro: I'm starting to worry about you--taking a laptop to your bunk so you can help people out while you sleep... |
| [21:38:33] | PatrickDK: | for me, I just installed ubuntu desktop cd |
| [21:38:43] | PatrickDK: | then selected, install mythubuntu-desktop |
| [21:38:53] | PatrickDK: | then, if you don't login within 10seconds, it goes right into myth |
| [21:38:56] | iamlindoro: | sphery: Well, w/ the Firefly quoting and the hero of Canton talk, you might conclude that I'm watching Firefly :) |
| [21:39:20] | ChrisC35: | PatrickDK is that the best way to get the regular ubuntu when you need it then? |
| [21:39:30] | PatrickDK: | I think so |
| [21:39:39] | ChrisC35: | if mythtv is running, how would one go to the internet? |
| [21:39:39] | PatrickDK: | cause then you just exit mythtv, and login like a normal computer |
| [21:39:49] | iamlindoro: | ChrisC35: Mythbuntu *is* still regular mythbuntu, with access to all the same packages |
| [21:39:57] | iamlindoro: | er regular ubuntu |
| [21:39:59] | sphery: | PatrickDK: and then you had things like PulseAudio and extremely heavyweight desktop environment (GNOME/KDE) rather than a lightweight window manager (xfce?) |
| [21:40:00] | ChrisC35: | i'm trying to make sure this will be easy enough for the wife to use |
| [21:40:22] | PatrickDK: | sphery, you shouldn't |
| [21:40:27] | PatrickDK: | it seems light for me |
| [21:40:34] | ChrisC35: | i have 1 gig ram and 200gb drive so its not much of an issue |
| [21:40:35] | PatrickDK: | but then, I also need to use it as a normal system soemtimes too |
| [21:40:54] | PatrickDK: | this is just a frontend for me |
| [21:40:57] | iamlindoro: | ChrisC35: The lightness in this case isn't drive space really, but rather low memory, fast |
| [21:40:58] | ChrisC35: | from mythtv or mythbuntu, cna you get to a web browser easilly? |
| [21:41:04] | iamlindoro: | yes, from both |
| [21:41:09] | sphery: | I wouldn't use GNOME/KDE on my "normal" system with 2GB RAM. :) |
| [21:41:48] | PatrickDK: | sphery, I'm just too lazy to bother modifing the crap out of it |
| [21:42:01] | sphery: | which is exactly why MythBuntu was created ;) |
| [21:42:15] | ChrisC35: | all i need is TV recording/watching, and internet |
| [21:42:22] | iamlindoro: | FWIW I had run Ubuntu + Mythtv for a good while, but in my most recent rebuild I installed w/ Mythbuntu for fun, and have been really really impressed. Certainly more streamlined than I could have made it |
| [21:42:31] | ChrisC35: | my wife wont be coding or compiling |
| [21:42:31] | iamlindoro: | But then, perhaps that just speaks poorly of me :) |
| [21:43:02] | PatrickDK: | heh, I always ran mythtv without a window manager, for years :) |
| [21:43:12] | PatrickDK: | just pure xorg, and nothing else running |
| [21:43:20] | ChrisC35: | think in terms of a non-computer user |
| [21:43:20] | sphery: | iamlindoro: considering how many times you're answering questions in this channel, I think it just speaks highly of MythBuntu |
| [21:43:25] | ChrisC35: | i know its hard |
| [21:43:35] | ChrisC35: | especially for linux people :) |
| [21:43:54] | ** sphery pretends he didn't notice the comment about MythTV without a WM... (That's one of my pets--one I call "Peeve") ** | |
| [21:44:02] | iamlindoro: | sphery: Yes, I think it does, but just adding the disclaimer in case others thought little of me :) |
| [21:44:08] | PatrickDK: | heh, it worked ok for me :) |
| [21:44:26] | PatrickDK: | I'm currently using mwm on that box now |
| [21:44:34] | ChrisC35: | well it sounds like mythbuntu is the clear winner or my scenario |
| [21:44:34] | PatrickDK: | and haven't been using a frontend on it recently |
| [21:45:02] | sphery: | mwm, thanks, my blood pressure just dropped a bit now that I know you've got a WM |
| [21:45:18] | PatrickDK: | sphery, I only started using mwm recently |
| [21:45:24] | PatrickDK: | now that I actually installed a mouse on that computer |
| [21:45:27] | sphery: | but it progress :) |
| [21:45:31] | PatrickDK: | still haven't isntalled a keyboard |
| [21:46:21] | sphery: | I have a keyboard/mouse on my Myth box and I'm feeling guilty for abusing the mouse's built-in rechargeable battery (never use the mouse, so it never gets discharged/charged). |
| [21:46:46] | PatrickDK: | well, this box is just my backend server |
| [21:47:00] | PatrickDK: | I only have xorg up on it, for 2 java apps I run |
| [21:47:02] | ChrisC35: | where can i download mythbuntu |
| [21:47:04] | thoraxe: | bleh, trying to build the patched lirc for pvr150 and my silly fedora keeps telling me to install kernel sources |
| [21:47:08] | sphery: | Yeah, I have 2 backends with no keyboards/mice |
| [21:47:17] | sphery: | ChrisC35: looks like mythbuntu.org\ |
| [21:47:36] | sphery: | (no slash--it's right next to the Enter key on this keyboard) |
| [21:47:52] | PatrickDK: | well the \ shouldn't hurt it :) |
| [21:47:55] | sphery: | I'm impressed they've got their own domain name |
| [21:48:20] | ChrisC35: | is amd64 for all amd style chips, even 32bit ones? |
| [21:48:27] | ChrisC35: | i have a thunderbird 1.2 |
| [21:48:32] | sphery: | On mine (since it's really a backslash and not--as I quick-typed it--a slash), it treats it as part of the hostname |
| [21:48:53] | PatrickDK: | chris, I wouldn't bother with 664bit unless you plan on going over 3gigs of ram |
| [21:49:16] | sphery: | that one would need a 32-bit build, though (so the answer to your question is no) |
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| [21:50:02] | ChrisC35: | i was just wondering which one i need , i386 or amd64 |
| [21:50:12] | ChrisC35: | is i386 only for intel chips? |
| [21:50:16] | sphery: | I like that it's "amd64" build and not "emt64" build (or even the "neutral," but deprecated, x86–64)) |
| [21:50:34] | sphery: | i386 is for 32-bit systems--including AMD and Intel ones |
| [21:50:35] | JohnMahowald: | Deprecated? |
| [21:50:46] | PatrickDK: | x86–64 is just evil |
| [21:51:14] | sphery: | JohnMahowald: AMD originally called it x86–64, then they realized that they weren't getting any good PR from that name, so they formally renamed it AMD64 (before launch). |
| [21:51:32] | EvilGuru: | Even worse is that MS call it x64 |
| [21:51:42] | sphery: | Of course, Intel couldn't be caught dead using AMD64, so they modified it (oh so very slightly) and called it EMT64 |
| [21:51:45] | ChrisC35: | whats the diff of 'direct desktop' and 'direct alternate' downloads? |
| [21:51:51] | JohnMahowald: | I'm fine with x86_64 as a generic name. |
| [21:52:36] | sphery: | EvilGuru: yeah, x64 is just wrong |
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| [21:52:54] | iamlindoro: | I'm partial to fellatio64 |
| [21:53:00] | sphery: | ChrisC35: someone once explained the diff... (I think laga--looking now) |
| [21:53:02] | iamlindoro: | because everyone likes that. |
| [21:53:28] | ChrisC35: | look at all the download variations: http://mythbuntu.org/downloads |
| [21:53:56] | sphery: | ChrisC35: looks like the alternate disk has all the debs inside it (so it doesn't need 'net access during install) |
| [21:53:58] | iamlindoro: | It's just two, with multiple ways of getting it |
| [21:54:16] | ChrisC35: | ok that sounds good |
| [21:54:40] | EvilGuru: | ChrisC35: IIRC alternative uses a text-based installer |
| [21:55:04] | sphery: | ChrisC35: but if you get that, you'll probably have to download updates after it finishes, so downloading the desktop ISO is better (less bandwidth) |
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| [23:08:18] | jpabq: | sphery, you might be interested in http://www.electronichouse.com/article/phlatl . . . llumination/ |
| [23:10:06] | sphery: | jpabq: Nice. I'm just now starting to think about how nice a new ($400) bulb would be for my TV... |
| [23:10:23] | sphery: | Part of me is thinking it's better to spend the money on a new TV, instead. :) |
| [23:11:00] | jpabq: | I have someone willing to buy mine from me, and am considering the 67A750. |
| [23:11:17] | jpabq: | Unlike you, you only got the 61" the first time around. |
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| [23:12:58] | sphery: | Yeah, a pricing mistake from Circuit City was the only reason I got the 67" :) |
| [23:13:19] | sphery: | Avenged-Revenge: how are you setting up your system? A single combined frontend/backend with MySQL running on the same host? |
| [23:13:34] | Avenged-Revenge: | sphery: yup |
| [23:13:37] | Avenged-Revenge: | right on |
| [23:14:24] | sphery: | Avenged-Revenge: and this is your first time running mythtv-setup (i.e. you need a new database)? |
| [23:14:43] | Avenged-Revenge: | yes, fresh install and everything |
| [23:15:25] | sphery: | And it's asking for the database hostname, username, and password (and maybe database name), right? |
| [23:15:30] | janneg: | Avenged-Revenge: that's probably a bug of the alternate mythbuntu 8.04 install medium |
| [23:15:50] | Avenged-Revenge: | sphery: yes |
| [23:16:20] | janneg: | I hit that too when I installed mythbuntu for the linuxtag. |
| [23:16:29] | Avenged-Revenge: | but it returns: "cannot login to database?" |
| [23:16:34] | sphery: | I'm starting to think janneg may be a better source of info (as I haven't used MythBuntu). |
| [23:17:05] | Avenged-Revenge: | is there anyway I can fix it or should I reinstall using the live disc? |
| [23:17:23] | janneg: | Avenged-Revenge: you have to create a mythconverg DB and create the the mythtv user |
| [23:17:32] | sphery: | But, in a distribution-independent sense, you need to make sure you've run mc.sql (to create the initial database), then just specify DB hostname: localhost, DB username and password: mythtv (and, if it asks, DB name: mythconverg) |
| [23:18:03] | sphery: | Avenged-Revenge: mc.sql will create the DB and create the mythtv user (and set up the proper character set) |
| [23:18:43] | janneg: | sphery: mythbuntu tries to automate that and chooses a random password but it fails with the alternate CD |
| [23:18:47] | ** cesman would think a MythTV distro would do that for you ;) ** | |
| [23:19:07] | sphery: | janneg: Ah... And that's why I was thinking you'd be a better source of info. |
| [23:19:08] | Avenged-Revenge: | janneg: so should I choose my own password then? it does have some random letters in the field |
| [23:19:51] | janneg: | Avenged-Revenge: the easiest is probably to choose the same password mythbuntu has already |
| [23:19:52] | sphery: | cesman: I'm pretty sure I know of one (now 2) MythTV distros that do that for you :) |
| [23:20:48] | janneg: | Avenged-Revenge: are you familiar with the mysql commandline? |
| [23:21:05] | Avenged-Revenge: | i'm afraid not |
| [23:21:18] | Avenged-Revenge: | janneg: still says "cannot login to database?" |
| [23:22:10] | Avenged-Revenge: | entered local host info, user: mythtv, database name: mythconverg |
| [23:22:49] | Avenged-Revenge: | i'm thinking I might just hit up the live disc, would be easier for a newb like me |
| [23:23:00] | Avenged-Revenge: | unless you feel it's easy to fix |
| [23:23:44] | janneg: | Avenged-Revenge: it is probably the easier way, please complain to mythbuntu devs |
| [23:23:51] | iamlindoro: | The Live Cd *does* make it much easier |
| [23:24:08] | Avenged-Revenge: | alright, well thanks for the help |
| [23:24:24] | Avenged-Revenge: | much appreciated. |
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| [23:24:50] | sphery: | jpabq: Out of curiosity, did you ever have a failure of the light engine? The light tunnel on mine melted just over a year ago and I was able to convince Samsung to replace it under warranty. |
| [23:25:46] | janneg: | cesman: do you think it's possible to run a complete mythtv setup (mysql server, backend and frontend) from a live CD |
| [23:26:00] | cesman: | yes |
| [23:26:01] | jpabq: | sphery, nope, mine has work great. I have a friend, though that just had his fail, and he has a one year newer model. |
| [23:26:09] | janneg: | of course with some persistent storage |
| [23:26:27] | cesman: | I've just never done it w/ KnoppMyth because I don't think the work it takes to develop it isn't worth it to me |
| [23:26:34] | cesman: | MythTV should be installed |
| [23:26:46] | janneg: | it was a much requested feature during linuxtag |
| [23:26:51] | jpabq: | sphery, with as much time as you spend helping everyone else, how do you ever have any time to watch TV? |
| [23:27:37] | sphery: | jpabq: Interesting. I found a /lot/ of people who had the melting light tunnel on avsforum. My new one has lasted longer than the original, so I figured they must have fixed the design. I know the new LED-based Samsung DLP's don't even have a light tunnel, so I wasn't sure (since fixing a part that's not needed on new models seems a bit of a waste). |
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| [23:28:30] | sphery: | jpabq: I travel a lot. 67" HDTV at home, but I watch most all my TV on my 15.4" laptop screen in airports/airplanes/hotels. Also, you may notice I spend much less time on the lists, anymore. |
| [23:28:57] | cesman: | janneg: you'll also get the best performance from having MythTV installed (unless you have A LOT of RAM) |
| [23:29:10] | sphery: | (kind of dialing down the on-list support so I can actually spend time working on some of the patches I want to do) |
| [23:29:25] | PatrickDK: | you only need 1gig of ram, then another half gig for cdrom image copy :) |
| [23:29:40] | jpabq: | sphery, Yeah, I have noticed that you are getting pretty active there. |
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| [23:30:38] | jpabq: | My only contribution lately has been cracking the "riddle", and janneg could have easily done that himself. I just was hoping to save him some time. |
| [23:31:39] | sphery: | cool. Glad to hear it's done. (And, thanks, as your helping save janneg some time helps everyone.) |
| [23:34:20] | Ryushin: | So, any word if svn is usable yet? I haven't upgraded in about 3 months since all the major changes were occurring. |
| [23:34:31] | illusionize: | hey guys, any ideas what these errors messages mean? |
| [23:34:31] | illusionize: | 2008-06–09 09:33:51.227 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:3306 (try 1 of 5) |
| [23:34:32] | illusionize: | 2008-06–09 09:33:51.228 MythSocket(8384ac0:22): Protocol error: '@' is not a valid size prefix. 60 bytes pending. |
| [23:34:32] | illusionize: | 2008-06–09 09:33:51.228 Unexpected response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION: |
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| [23:35:03] | iamlindoro: | illusionize: Not enough to be sure, but a good guess is you frontends and backends have version mismatch |
| [23:35:22] | iamlindoro: | Ryushin: Still not stable enough for everyday use AFAIK |
| [23:35:44] | janneg: | cesman: sure. it is more intended for testing and not for using it as regular setup |
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| [23:36:04] | raslac: | I'm still having no luck: anyone have any suggestions why my mythtv won't do ac3/dts spdif passthrough, but mplayer / aplay do just fine? I've tried just about every audio option combination possible in mythtv, and some creative ones, too. (mythbuntu 8.04) |
| [23:37:32] | Ryushin: | iamlindoro: Using it for a regular setup. so I guess I'll ask again in another month. Any word how well the Hauppauge HD-PVR is working in myth? |
| [23:37:34] | janneg: | cesman: I don't think it's important enough to spend much time on it but it would be nice feature for turning people into using mythtv |
| [23:37:50] | iamlindoro: | Ryushin: It's not, yet... but maybe in that next month |
| [23:37:57] | raslac: | I get 2 out of 6 channel output without the passthrough options checked. With passthrough options checked, and devices set to default, I get digital noise... |
| [23:38:05] | illusionize: | iamlindoro: http://pastebin.com/m67bc4c94 it appears as if they are exact same version |
| [23:38:36] | janneg: | Ryushin: trunk is useable but not as stable as before the qt4 port |
| [23:39:08] | Ryushin: | janneg: then I'm going to wait. Maybe in 1–3 months it will be back up to its old mostly stable self. |
| [23:39:29] | janneg: | if you don't mind occasional missed recordings you can upgrade, otherwise I would stay with 0.21-fixes for now |
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| [23:39:52] | Ryushin: | The WAF factor has actually improved towards myth as of late. |
| [23:40:29] | Ryushin: | janneg: using svn. Currently on 16344 |
| [23:40:38] | cesman: | janneg: testing what in particular? |
| [23:41:55] | janneg: | the HD PVR support will probably be added to fixes too if the older ffmpeg in fixes plays the streams reasonable back |
| [23:42:29] | jpabq: | For me, trying to play sample clips from the HD-PVR causes ffmpeg to crash about 1/3 of the time. |
| [23:42:42] | janneg: | cesman: I would think hardware and mythtv |
| [23:43:14] | jpabq: | At least I think it is ffmpeg that is crashing. I need to verify that. |
| [23:46:24] | janneg: | jpabq: what are you using for playback? ffplay? |
| [23:46:24] | cesman: | janneg: like I to do most of my testing on my "production" systems |
| [23:46:39] | jpabq: | myth Internal with 0.21 fixes. |
| [23:46:55] | jpabq: | That is why I need to verify what is actually causing the problem. |
| [23:47:02] | cesman: | janneg: I'm know what changes I make and upgrading is generally safe |
| [23:47:45] | cesman: | janneg: both of my backends only have 1 gig of RAM, I would not run a live CD backend w/o at least 2 gigs of RAM |
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| [23:48:39] | janneg: | cesman: I'm speaking of testing for potential new users |
| [23:49:39] | cesman: | janneg: early in R5 development, we were going to do that w/ MPlayer |
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| [23:50:10] | sphery: | Ryushin: You can always upgrade to current 0.21-fixes from where you're at. Then, when trunk is ready, you can switch back to trunk. It's as simple as svn switch http://svn.mythtv.org/svn/branches/release-0-21-fixes/ (assuming you checked out all of trunk, or just append the directory name if you checked out individual directories originally) |
| [23:50:17] | sphery: | too late |
| [23:50:22] | cesman: | way early... |
| [23:50:39] | janneg: | but if it won't work reasonable well with 1GB it's not worth the effort |
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| [23:51:42] | cesman: | the bits are already there w/ KnoppMyth |
| [23:52:07] | cesman: | you need more memory because of compression used on CD |
| [23:52:36] | cesman: | also because you'd want to load the CD to RAM (frees up optical drive to be used for music, DVDs, etc.) |
| [23:52:54] | sphery: | jpabq: I'm assuming you're still looking at DLP's (over other tech's, like LCD's) because of the price difference at the size you want, right? |
| [23:54:27] | cesman: | while it may sound good for a new users, it would take work to make it newbie proof |
| [23:55:47] | jpabq: | sphery, yup. 67" is way too expensive in LCD or Plasma. Also I like to watch in the native aspect ratio, so I don't want to have to worry about burn in. |
| [23:56:23] | cesman: | bbl |
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| [23:56:45] | cesman: | janneg: if you would like to help develop this in KnoppMyth, please let me know! :) |
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| [23:58:02] | jpabq: | sphery, in a couple of years hopefully OLED will be the way to go. |
| [23:58:13] | sphery: | jpabq: Yeah, I see that now. I had been thinking some other tech would be good for my next HDTV, but it looks like a 65" LCD would be about $5K (compared to ~$2K for the HL67A750). I really wish stupid Nano Proprietary hadn't killed Canon's SED... |
| [23:59:02] | sphery: | I might have to wait for NED (which is basically SED done right--without the shortcut that makes it actually work with today's technology :) |
| [23:59:56] | iamlindoro: | I hear they're opening a huge plant in Flanders |
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