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| [00:31:31] | Fenix-Dark: | hi |
| [00:31:40] | Fenix-Dark: | how long does it take to install/setup mythtv? |
| [00:31:55] | anykey_: | as long as you take to read the docs ;) |
| [00:32:12] | Fenix-Dark: | 30 min? |
| [00:32:14] | Fenix-Dark: | 45 min? |
| [00:32:19] | anykey_: | much more |
| [00:32:49] | Fenix-Dark: | thats a shame |
| [00:33:13] | Fenix-Dark: | does the tv listings work with atsc cards? |
| [00:33:33] | anykey_: | Check the wiki, it has an entry on ATSC |
| [00:33:52] | Fenix-Dark: | ok |
| [00:35:45] | Fenix-Dark: | the atsc entry was lacking |
| [00:36:46] | kdubya: | much more? |
| [00:36:59] | Fenix-Dark: | kdubya, ? |
| [00:37:04] | kdubya: | man you can just do yum install mythtv or whatever your distro wants |
| [00:37:15] | kdubya: | and be watching tv in like 5 minutes |
| [00:37:18] | Fenix-Dark: | slackware |
| [00:37:21] | anykey_: | kdubya: not if you want an stb-like mythtv ;) |
| [00:37:34] | Fenix-Dark: | and i want to find out if the channel listing works for atsc cards |
| [00:37:55] | Fenix-Dark: | i know it doesn't work for them with kaffeine, if they do work in mythtv it's reason enough to switch to it fo rme |
| [00:37:56] | kdubya: | unless you got weird hardware that you have to dick with then it is not trouble to get it running |
| [00:37:57] | Fenix-Dark: | for me* |
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| [00:47:26] | kdubya: | Fenix-Dark, atsc works fine |
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| [00:48:04] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: depending on your hardware, a KnoppMyth install should take no more than 30 minutes |
| [00:48:13] | Fenix-Dark: | kdubya, i know atsc cards work |
| [00:48:29] | Fenix-Dark: | i want to know if the programming guide info for atsc cards work |
| [00:49:05] | Fenix-Dark: | cesman, i have no intention of installing a new os just to use mythtv |
| [00:49:25] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: you asked, I answered |
| [00:49:36] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: perhaps give more details... |
| [00:49:50] | cesman: | like, I have distro X, are packages available, etc? |
| [00:49:51] | Fenix-Dark: | i was asking how long it takes to install the applications |
| [00:49:58] | Fenix-Dark: | sorry for the misunderstanding |
| [00:50:22] | Fenix-Dark: | i am using slackware 12.1 btw |
| [00:50:32] | Fenix-Dark: | 2.6.25.4 kernel |
| [00:50:42] | Fenix-Dark: | err 2.6.24.5 |
| [00:51:03] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: sorry I don't know if packages are availble for slack |
| [00:51:17] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: as long as you have the deps, compiling is a snap |
| [00:51:28] | cesman: | of course, it will take time ;) |
| [00:51:28] | kdubya: | Fenix-Dark, the programming is flexible to work with anything |
| [00:51:30] | Fenix-Dark: | there probably are packages, i was curious on how long the configuring takes |
| [00:51:35] | Fenix-Dark: | kdubya, ok |
| [00:51:54] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: configuration is easy (I think) |
| [00:52:02] | Fenix-Dark: | ok |
| [00:52:06] | kdubya: | its a joke |
| [00:52:15] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: Read the documentation |
| [00:52:21] | Fenix-Dark: | setting up mysql and such is that simple? |
| [00:52:28] | kdubya: | if you use packages |
| [00:52:35] | kdubya: | but for some reason you are using slackware |
| [00:52:41] | kdubya: | so good luck with that shit |
| [00:52:49] | Fenix-Dark: | uh huh |
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| [00:53:31] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: http://home.comcast.net/~homebrewracing/Mythtv.txt |
| [00:53:54] | cesman: | kdubya: is there really a need to call it "shit"? |
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| [00:54:09] | cesman: | kdubya: nevermind, your opinion is your own... |
| [00:54:34] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: again, read the directions |
| [00:54:58] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: I have never worked w/ Slack so I cannot tell you how difficult it is to setup MySQL, etc.... |
| [00:55:06] | Fenix-Dark: | ok |
| [00:55:14] | Fenix-Dark: | i'll read the instructions and attempt to install it first |
| [00:55:34] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: don't forget, Google is your friend |
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| [01:01:31] | mercera13: | on knoppmyth, does anyone know how to get back to the original configuration page? |
| [01:13:33] | cesman: | mercera13: what is it you need to reconfigure? |
| [01:14:01] | cesman: | mercera13: we can keep it in #knoppmyth |
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| [01:42:35] | pembo13_com: | is there any way to get MythMusic to just show a directory listing of my music instead of going by artist name > album? |
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| [02:05:56] | DavidSomeone: | Hi all... I've googled and checked the list, maybe not hitting the right keywords, but haven't found the answer... Mythtv's log is reporting it can't expire shows because the file does not exist... however, it's trying to delete 2291_001122330000.nuv when the actual file exists as .mpg ...any way to fix that? |
| [02:10:35] | cesman: | touch |
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| [02:20:51] | bsdfox__: | DavidSomeone: you could manually update the database and change it |
| [02:21:01] | bsdfox__: | or touch the file it's missing then delete the .nuv |
| [02:22:34] | Lexridge: | Has anyone had good success using mythtv with jack? All my jack aware apps work well, except for mythtv, which stutters terribly! |
| [02:23:19] | squish103: | i somehow have my playback set up to talk like chipmunks.. any idea how to get it to sound right? |
| [02:24:27] | Lexridge: | squish103: Sounds like a samplerate issue to me. |
| [02:24:58] | sphery: | DavidSomeone: That would be the expected behavior if you run some version of MythTV and it upgrades your DB past a certain point, then you run an older version of MythTV and it records some files, then you re-upgrade. |
| [02:26:25] | sphery: | DavidSomeone: Or the behavior you would get if something completely destroyed your DB and set recorded.basename to '' (empty string). (Note that it won't be empty, anymore, because Myth "fixed" it assuming you had recorded shows on an older version that didn't have basenames.) |
| [02:26:41] | DavidSomeone: | Sphery: That's probably the case here... I did have to do that once for some reason. Thanks for that. I'll mv the files to rename them, and let it auto-expire again so I don't screw up the database manually. |
| [02:26:59] | squish103: | i think it is time streach |
| [02:27:25] | squish103: | but it does say 1X |
| [02:27:30] | sphery: | squish103: do they sound like chipmunks (high pitch) or just like the same people talking fast? |
| [02:27:44] | sphery: | if chipmunks, it's a broken sound config |
| [02:27:48] | squish103: | same ppl talking fast... like i have to slow it down |
| [02:27:54] | squish103: | but it was all working fine |
| [02:28:04] | squish103: | and now all recordings seem to be like this |
| [02:28:28] | sphery: | did you turn on "Use video as timebase"--the "experimental" setting that should never, ever, be enabled? |
| [02:29:24] | squish103: | i may have at some stage to help the HD playback due to some advice from this #... let me go check |
| [02:29:44] | sphery: | It's in playback settings in the frontend's TV settings area |
| [02:30:07] | squish103: | and while i'm getting lost in the setup, anything else i should be looking for while i aimlessly wander around? |
| [02:30:45] | sphery: | at this point, I can't think of anything |
| [02:31:10] | sphery: | Though, it should be Utilities/Setup|Settings|TV Settings|Playback (or something like that) |
| [02:31:22] | squish103: | thanks |
| [02:31:56] | squish103: | this is when i wish it was windows and a reboot would fix it |
| [02:32:47] | sphery: | A reboot? You mean one of those things that happens after the power goes out once every few months at my house? |
| [02:33:29] | Lexridge: | something I DON'T miss about winders. ;) |
| [02:33:43] | sphery: | Lexridge: there's some recent discussion on -dev list about JACK |
| [02:34:04] | Lexridge: | the mythtv developers mailing list? |
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| [02:34:24] | wagner: | sadly, a reboot often fixes my problems |
| [02:34:43] | wagner: | usually ALSA or NFS gets funky, and rebooting beats it into submission |
| [02:35:02] | Lexridge: | that is just the instability of windows. In linux, a reboot generally does not fix things, because it's usually a configuration problem. |
| [02:36:04] | Lexridge: | wagner: I;ve not had any alsa issues a reboot fixed, not to say they don't exist, but have not experience them personally. In most cases, you can simply restart alsa, unless you're using Fedora. |
| [02:36:11] | sphery: | Lexridge: yeah, http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/dev/333566#333566 , see, also, http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5374 |
| [02:36:27] | Lexridge: | thanks sphery, I will check it out now |
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| [02:36:44] | sphery: | haven't read that thread, yet, so it may not be useful |
| [02:37:00] | squish103: | thanks sphery that fixed my problem |
| [02:37:12] | sphery: | squish103: glad to hear |
| [02:37:33] | Lexridge: | yea, it helps...apparently the jack code is a few years old, and badly in need of an update. :( |
| [02:37:49] | Lexridge: | well, not jack code, but the jack portion of mythtv. |
| [02:37:54] | wagner: | lexridge: true, but not having a keyboard at my mythbox, nor a nearby computer, its easier just to hit the power button |
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| [02:38:22] | Lexridge: | wagner: point taken, but an ssh shell would certainly be helpful. |
| [02:39:11] | Lexridge: | wagner: sometimes power buttons and the ext2/3 filesystem do not get along very well. |
| [02:39:35] | wagner: | power buttons and NFS work just dandy |
| [02:39:55] | Lexridge: | wagner: that would be okay. :) |
| [02:40:12] | Lexridge: | wager: are you booting from NFS as well? |
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| [02:40:40] | wagner: | i boot from NFS, but i do have a local disk for recordings |
| [02:41:07] | wagner: | however if im not recording, theres no disk access for it to mess up |
| [02:41:18] | wagner: | and even if i am recording, theres not anything im too concerned about losing |
| [02:41:28] | Lexridge: | wagner: I would like to set up someting similar here. I have too many other problems to straighten out first though. |
| [02:42:08] | Lexridge: | ie: lirc, mythmusic (pretty crappy so far) and mythweather (doesn't work at all) |
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| [02:42:25] | darkwizzard: | hey all |
| [02:42:37] | wagner: | the only problem is that i run gentoo, so NFS significantly reduces compile performance |
| [02:42:40] | kdubya: | wha |
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| [02:42:47] | wagner: | i use mythmusic, but only through mythweb |
| [02:42:53] | wagner: | i use it to stream music to work |
| [02:42:53] | kdubya: | you boot from nfs, but you record to a local disc? |
| [02:42:58] | kdubya: | isnt that like, backwards? |
| [02:43:10] | wagner: | well i plan to remove the local disk entirely |
| [02:43:21] | wagner: | i just havent gotten around to it |
| [02:43:33] | Lexridge: | I want to build a mythtv server that boots from a CF card eventually. |
| [02:43:37] | darkwizzard: | can anyone tell my what would cause opengl to go black video and have sound . like say i went from live tv to video . |
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| [02:44:12] | Lexridge: | darkwizzard: It sounds like the wrong input is being selected on your tuner card. |
| [02:44:39] | leprechau: | wagner, check out archlinux...no more compile time problems....and it's just as peppy as gentoo |
| [02:44:42] | darkwizzard: | i see well it all started after i did dist-upgrade |
| [02:45:02] | leprechau: | or if you just want something damn simple....newest version of mythbuntu has support builtin for creating diskless network bootable images |
| [02:45:04] | leprechau: | for frontends |
| [02:45:38] | clever: | darkwizzard: allways black or changes when myth looses/gains focus? |
| [02:45:52] | clever: | and can you even see the OSD(shown by i) |
| [02:46:12] | darkwizzard: | pure black |
| [02:46:19] | darkwizzard: | ad i get sound |
| [02:46:40] | darkwizzard: | i try to play something i recorded |
| [02:46:44] | darkwizzard: | black screen |
| [02:46:46] | darkwizzard: | sound |
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| [02:47:03] | darkwizzard: | if i switch it to xv-blitz it works |
| [02:47:06] | darkwizzard: | i get video |
| [02:47:31] | darkwizzard: | soon as i goto opengl it stays for 1 video then black |
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| [02:51:11] | kdubya: | yeah |
| [02:51:14] | kdubya: | dont use opengl |
| [02:51:20] | kdubya: | jst stick with xv |
| [02:51:33] | wagner: | leprechan: to be honest, i wouldnt mind dropping gentoo |
| [02:51:39] | darkwizzard: | well i like opengl |
| [02:51:55] | kdubya: | well opengl is not nearly as mature as xv |
| [02:52:04] | kdubya: | you cant expect it to work as well |
| [02:52:09] | wagner: | however, since freebsd is my 'distro' of choice, and the bsds arent know for any graphical capability... at all... gentoo is the next closest thing |
| [02:53:16] | darkwizzard: | kdubya i know what u mean but opengl has picture control and xv don't |
| [02:53:28] | kdubya: | yeah |
| [02:53:32] | kdubya: | one day it will be better |
| [02:53:35] | kdubya: | it just aint now |
| [02:56:08] | sphery: | kdubya: it's a bug in your video drivers |
| [02:56:28] | sphery: | darkwizzard: ^^^ |
| [02:56:43] | sphery: | darkwizzard: and kdubya is right--the answer is to not use OpenGL renderer(s) |
| [02:56:45] | darkwizzard: | i using nvidia |
| [02:56:52] | sphery: | and those are the broken drivers |
| [02:57:11] | sphery: | or you can downgrade to a version without the bug (late 99xx series or early 100.x series) |
| [02:57:16] | darkwizzard: | so nvidia is junk |
| [02:57:29] | kdubya: | heh |
| [02:57:31] | darkwizzard: | i am using 100.07 |
| [02:57:33] | sphery: | but really, you shouldn't be using OpenGL rendering as it's not supported in 0.21--it's there, but not expected to work |
| [02:57:43] | sphery: | darkwizzard: guess that's not early enough |
| [02:57:49] | kdubya: | no, nvidia has the best linux drivers, just just happen to be really buggy |
| [02:58:04] | darkwizzard: | so i update to mythtv .22 |
| [02:58:07] | kdubya: | which sounds retarded |
| [02:58:22] | kdubya: | .22 doesnt exist |
| [02:58:30] | sphery: | I've hard good things about very recent ATI fglrx (though, personally, I'm waiting for good post-spec-release FOSS ATI drivers) |
| [02:58:31] | PatrickDK: | just update to .25 while your at it |
| [02:58:33] | darkwizzard: | it on trunk |
| [02:58:45] | wagner: | the qt4 builds are still considered 0.21? |
| [02:58:54] | sphery: | darkwizzard: oh, and trunk isn't supported, now, either |
| [02:59:14] | kdubya: | nah but i wouldnt call the qt builds .22 |
| [02:59:29] | darkwizzard: | what verion of of mythtv has opengl that works |
| [02:59:31] | sphery: | darkwizzard: on 0.21-fixes, OpenGL rendering shouldn't be expected to work, but on trunk, nothing should be expected to work (major overhaul in progress) |
| [02:59:35] | kdubya: | darkwizzard, none |
| [02:59:47] | darkwizzard: | i see |
| [02:59:47] | sphery: | so choose between nothing or everything except OpenGL rendering. :) |
| [02:59:52] | kdubya: | opengl renderer is brand new |
| [03:00:03] | darkwizzard: | i see |
| [03:00:12] | darkwizzard: | well time for winblows |
| [03:00:36] | wagner: | mythtv on winblows should not be expected to work either |
| [03:00:38] | wagner: | :P |
| [03:00:46] | sphery: | lol, true |
| [03:00:54] | kdubya: | haha |
| [03:00:59] | sphery: | Xv-blit is the answer |
| [03:01:17] | kdubya: | youre going to swich OSes because you cant use some picture controls that you probably shouldnt need to use anyway? |
| [03:01:19] | darkwizzard: | i mean wipe linux and goto windows |
| [03:01:31] | wagner: | how about you just tune your TV |
| [03:01:36] | sphery: | or, maybe the open-source graphics card (hardware)... (but not yet) |
| [03:01:38] | darkwizzard: | i can't |
| [03:01:47] | wagner: | your TV doesnt have color controls? |
| [03:01:48] | darkwizzard: | it a projector |
| [03:01:52] | kdubya: | well you should not use the picture controls in myth |
| [03:01:53] | darkwizzard: | none |
| [03:01:59] | wagner: | your projector doesnt have color controls? |
| [03:01:59] | kdubya: | that is not the correct way to adjust your picture |
| [03:02:22] | darkwizzard: | well i like were i could bighteness |
| [03:02:27] | darkwizzard: | and color |
| [03:02:36] | sphery: | darkwizzard: nvidia-settings |
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| [03:03:06] | darkwizzard: | yeah every channel i would have to kill frontend adjust it |
| [03:03:53] | wagner: | well if you have to change it because youre changing channels, you have more issues than not being able to do so in mythtv |
| [03:03:57] | sphery: | if you have to change brightness on every channel, there are serious problems with your broadcasters/re-broadcasters |
| [03:04:23] | wagner: | how many lines do you have the cable split into? |
| [03:04:31] | sphery: | Oh, and if anyone wants to work on the build-your-own-open-graphics-card-and-drivers project: http://wiki.opengraphics.org/ :) |
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| [03:04:52] | wagner: | cablecos usually only power rate you for 3–4 devices |
| [03:05:04] | darkwizzard: | sphery it is dishnetwork sat |
| [03:05:29] | sphery: | to a PVR-x50? |
| [03:05:31] | wagner: | so its digital to an analog video capture? |
| [03:05:52] | darkwizzard: | yes |
| [03:05:56] | sphery: | if so, you need to use G (recording picture controls), not F (playback picture controls) |
| [03:06:08] | sphery: | I.e. set the brightness that's used to /record/ the channel |
| [03:06:25] | sphery: | which--I'd guess--is all messed up in your DB, right now. |
| [03:06:26] | darkwizzard: | i tried that nothing happens |
| [03:07:51] | sphery: | darkwizzard: if you go to channel settings in MythWeb, you should see 32768 for brightness on all channels. If you don't, someone has been messing with your recording brightness and it needs reset |
| [03:13:52] | darkwizzard: | i see the problem it is xorg |
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| [03:36:16] | leprechau: | wagner, im a huge bsd fan myself...all my servers are either fbsd or obsd...but on my desktop and laptop im using archlinux now....i was a gentoo user for a long time but switched to arch about a year ago |
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| [03:57:13] | wagner: | archlinux seems too small to have much of a package system built up |
| [03:59:49] | cesman: | wagner: but it does |
| [04:00:19] | wagner: | 1800 supported packages, 7200 unsupported |
| [04:00:31] | wagner: | i suppose 'unsupported' doesnt necessarily mean 'unstable' |
| [04:00:31] | cesman: | and if it doesn't have the package you want, build a package w/ Arch is easier than most other distros |
| [04:00:45] | cesman: | no, it doesn't |
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| [04:08:03] | jpabq: | squish103: http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5126 ? |
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| [04:11:40] | banyan: | I am having this cute thing that I love happening... every time a scheduled recording is attempted, my recorder fails. This despite my having no trouble watching live tv. |
| [04:12:42] | banyan: | how to fix? do I need to wipe out my sources and my cards and start over in mythtv-setup? |
| [04:14:15] | wagner: | fails? what do you mean by that? |
| [04:15:07] | banyan: | I mean I don't get recordings that I think I should, and I look in the information centre to have it tell me that "Canceled recording (Recorder Failed)". |
| [04:15:39] | banyan: | Those words come from the system, not me, so I can't tell you what it means because I didn't originate the term. |
| [04:16:01] | wagner: | has it ever worked? |
| [04:16:07] | banyan: | yes. |
| [04:16:25] | wagner: | i mean for recording, not watching tv |
| [04:16:30] | banyan: | Yes. |
| [04:17:03] | wagner: | have you rebuilt your system, and possibly have orphaned recorders? |
| [04:17:03] | banyan: | I did change the priority of one tuner that was giving me noisy recordings, and since then I am getting nothing. |
| [04:17:43] | wagner: | i rebuilt mine a while back |
| [04:17:52] | banyan: | Well, I look in tuner status and it shows me three tuners, which is correct, although they are labeled 3, 4 and 5 which is odd. |
| [04:17:55] | wagner: | when i reinstalled, it kept the old recorder 2, and made new recorders 1 and 3 |
| [04:18:10] | wagner: | it would try to record on 2, which was now non-existant |
| [04:18:14] | wagner: | and failed |
| [04:19:01] | banyan: | ah, so maybe it's suddenly trying on #1 and #2. |
| [04:19:51] | banyan: | So, I guess I have to shut it down, remove all the recorders out of the mysql table and have another go. |
| [04:20:06] | wagner: | you should be able to selectively drop them |
| [04:20:35] | banyan: | I'll use the mythtv-setup to delete them and then I'll blow the lot of them out of the database. |
| [04:20:44] | banyan: | Then I should get 1 and 2 and 3. |
| [04:21:16] | banyan: | Now, if I plan to go to a system with a different frontend, I should not use localhost in the setup, correct? |
| [04:21:38] | banyan: | That always confuses me as to where I can use it and where I can't. |
| [04:21:39] | wagner: | yeah, if you ever use more than a single machine, you need full addresses |
| [04:21:51] | wagner: | otherwise, stuff breaks |
| [04:21:59] | banyan: | so either an ip address or a name that resolves to one? |
| [04:22:04] | wagner: | correct |
| [04:22:34] | banyan: | now, is the system smart enough that if you're pointing at yourself the IP traffic stays internal? |
| [04:23:10] | GreyFoxx: | the OS takes care of that |
| [04:23:20] | wagner: | the system has no idea where anything is located, it just accesses the address |
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| [04:23:44] | wagner: | if it happens to be on the local machine, does it make it to the network card? or is it looped internally? |
| [04:23:47] | banyan: | Why did I think the code checked and did something different if the destination was local? |
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| [04:25:13] | banyan: | Yeah, at one point, I had a fake ethernet adapter set up, with a nonroutable address and a routing rule to route it to localhost, in order to avoid it nuking my LAN, but I can't remember the details. |
| [04:27:51] | wagner: | woohoo! my mouse is charged back up |
| [04:28:29] | wagner: | i love the mouse, but the lack of replaceable battery really sucks |
| [04:29:01] | banyan: | So, in the settings table I should have everything refer to a single host name if I'm on the same machine for the frontend as the backend? |
| [04:29:29] | banyan: | or a single IP at least? |
| [04:29:53] | GreyFoxx: | the settings table is keyed off your hostname for host specific settings |
| [04:29:58] | GreyFoxx: | and null for "global" stuff |
| [04:30:21] | wagner: | and that keying is independent of any settings you control |
| [04:30:44] | wagner: | it just grabs whatever the OS tells it is the hostname |
| [04:31:02] | GreyFoxx: | You can force it to something different in your mysql.txt |
| [04:31:17] | GreyFoxx: | you can set a hostname and it will override what teh OS returns |
| [04:32:45] | banyan: | Mine says "localhost" everywhere. Would it be better if I updated settings set hostname = `hostname` where hostname = "localhost"? |
| [04:33:00] | banyan: | i.e. set all references to localhost to the result I get from hostname? |
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| [04:34:12] | GreyFoxx: | assuming you are migrating from one hostname to a new one you can |
| [04:34:18] | GreyFoxx: | there are other locations as well |
| [04:34:27] | banyan: | ahh... |
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| [04:34:35] | banyan: | so if I do that I have to change it elsewhere too? |
| [04:34:46] | GreyFoxx: | so you might wanna dump the whole Db and start grepping to find out where :) |
| [04:35:04] | wagner: | yeah, thats probably an easier solution |
| [04:35:07] | banyan: | and that's mysqldbdump? |
| [04:35:17] | GreyFoxx: | mysqldump yeah |
| [04:35:20] | wagner: | i ended up going through each table individually and checking the column names |
| [04:35:30] | wagner: | took about half an hour to change everything |
| [04:35:36] | wagner: | there were a dozen tables or so |
| [04:35:56] | GreyFoxx: | I'd seriously consider a flat dump, then text find and replace |
| [04:36:07] | banyan: | and also, I have to edit my mysql.txt to "HOSTNAME=blah.yada.org"? |
| [04:36:10] | GreyFoxx: | only after grepping for localhost first to make |
| [04:36:44] | GreyFoxx: | ban: Why not just set your hostname? Do you have a reason to override it other than setting it in your distro ? |
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| [04:40:48] | riddlebox: | how would I set mythtv to allow sql access for the hauppauge media mvp? |
| [04:41:23] | wagner: | why would it need sql access? |
| [04:41:52] | wagner: | you can actually install a frontend on it? |
| [04:41:59] | GreyFoxx: | mediamvp |
| [04:42:15] | GreyFoxx: | it will be a frontend, works for replaytv and others as well |
| [04:42:28] | wagner: | i figured you would just use upnp |
| [04:42:59] | GreyFoxx: | it's been around a lot longer than upnmpsupport :)- |
| [04:43:09] | GreyFoxx: | and can delete stuff and I think schedule as well :) |
| [04:43:48] | wagner: | so you basically flash the firmware with a stripped down PPC linux build? |
| [04:43:55] | GreyFoxx: | tftp |
| [04:44:00] | GreyFoxx: | s the firmware |
| [04:44:03] | GreyFoxx: | at everyboot |
| [04:44:17] | wagner: | that sounds painful |
| [04:44:24] | GreyFoxx: | how? |
| [04:44:25] | wagner: | i guess its no different than pxeboot |
| [04:44:28] | GreyFoxx: | It's all automatic |
| [04:44:36] | GreyFoxx: | It's basically ythe same thing |
| [04:44:40] | riddlebox: | "you go into your mythtv mysql database and configure the database to allow remote access your system" |
| [04:44:43] | GreyFoxx: | dhcp tells it where to get the file and the filename |
| [04:44:48] | riddlebox: | how would I do that? |
| [04:44:48] | GreyFoxx: | it goes and gets it |
| [04:45:12] | GreyFoxx: | riddl: go read about the "grant" mysql command |
| [04:45:52] | wagner: | just do "grant all on mythconverg.* '<username>'@'<ip>' identified by '<password>'" |
| [04:45:57] | riddlebox: | GreyFoxx, would I just grant for the ipaddress? |
| [04:45:58] | Anduin: | riddlebox: the main mythtv.org docs also covers it in the section about multiple hosts |
| [04:46:17] | wagner: | you can grant for that specific address |
| [04:46:23] | wagner: | or you can grant for your subnet |
| [04:46:41] | wagner: | or if properly firewalled, i suppose you can grant to everyone |
| [04:51:01] | wagner: | how much power does that thing actually have, considering the original firmware required transcoding everything to mpeg1/2? |
| [04:51:49] | wagner: | i guess mediamvp does as well, it just does it through vlc |
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| [04:59:45] | riddlebox: | yeah it does, |
| [05:00:10] | riddlebox: | I am just setting it up now, I can view recordings, but cannot view live tv and setup recordings or delete them, because of the sql error |
| [05:00:21] | riddlebox: | once I get it up all the way I will let you guys know |
| [05:00:35] | riddlebox: | so far though, I bought this off of ebay for $40 |
| [05:00:51] | riddlebox: | and not having the pc in the living room will be great |
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| [05:07:59] | wagner: | are there any upnp media adaptors available for linux? |
| [05:08:20] | wagner: | everything i find is just a server |
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| [05:08:34] | wagner: | adaptor being something that can transcode rather than just stream |
| [05:08:47] | riddlebox: | hrmm I have granted the ip address access with no password, but it still isnt connecting |
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| [05:11:13] | wagner: | ah, fuppes is supposed to, but i remember not being able to get fuppes to run |
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| [05:36:40] | wagner: | seems my last attempts didnt work because of a bug in 0.71 specific to freebsd |
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| [05:43:02] | leprechau: | wagner, anything I have ever wanted to install in arch is either in the main repos...or available as a package build (kinda similar to a port) in the AUR ... arch user repo |
| [05:44:16] | leprechau: | that....and it has a /etc/rc.d bsd style init...binary and source build package system that integrates with one another....that's good enough for me |
| [05:46:06] | wagner: | well the thing i always liked about gentoo was that its package system was like the bsd ports tree, but about 20x more refined |
| [05:46:29] | wagner: | integrated package manager that works better than any of the ports managers |
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| [05:47:14] | leprechau: | same thing with arch |
| [05:47:26] | leprechau: | all of the binary packages are actually build from ABS ... arch build system |
| [05:47:35] | leprechau: | which is a full filesystem tree you can sync |
| [05:47:54] | leprechau: | that contains a PKGBUILD file....a makefile of sorts...and any associated patches or whatnot |
| [05:48:20] | Solv: | does anyone here know how I can capture video using my nvidia fx 6600 card? My breakout cable has svideo and composite 'inputs' as well as outputs. By the way RivaTV look to be a dead project and it doesn't support nvidia or smp both of which 'im using |
| [05:48:33] | leprechau: | so you can either...goto abs and hack/customize/modify and build/install.... or just grab the prebuild from any arch repo and save yourself alot of time |
| [05:48:41] | leprechau: | you don't have to compile anything you don't want to |
| [05:48:44] | leprechau: | unlike gentoo |
| [05:49:00] | Solv: | wondering if mythtv would detect it as a v4l capture card? |
| [05:49:09] | wagner: | gentoo has binary packages, but its not well accessable |
| [05:49:23] | leprechau: | Solv, if it's new enough the nvidia proprietary drivers might let you use the inputs |
| [05:50:34] | leprechau: | wagner, yes...but my last gentoo experience (granted about 2 years ago now) was way more compiling than I wanted to do...for really very little return in productivity or performance |
| [05:50:51] | Solv: | leprechau, okay, so somehow check to see if something like mythtv or xawtv can see the inputs? or should i be able to check at the device level? |
| [05:51:13] | leprechau: | and like you said...at the time prebuilt packages were very few and far between...and only available for the really large builds like OO and KDE/Gnome |
| [05:51:39] | leprechau: | Solv, check in nvidia-settings....see if it finds it |
| [05:51:51] | Solv: | ah okay...good idea |
| [05:53:46] | wagner: | i should see if i can get the video input on my laptop working |
| [05:53:58] | Solv: | nah, nothing there...i wonder if v4l project has something to say about it |
| [05:54:11] | wagner: | although i only ever used it once on windows |
| [05:54:32] | Solv: | i need to put some vhs tapes onto dvd...and was going to buy a capture card...but then i noticed the nvidia breakout cable and thought...hmmm |
| [05:54:44] | wagner: | you dont have a tuner card? |
| [05:57:32] | Solv: | wagner, me? |
| [05:57:41] | Solv: | i have a digital tuner card |
| [05:57:50] | Solv: | no video input |
| [05:57:57] | wagner: | digital only, no analog capability... |
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| [05:58:05] | Solv: | ya |
| [05:59:25] | leprechau: | Solv, not that you want to....but you can pickup a GREAT pvr150 haupage card on ebay for less than $30 |
| [05:59:45] | leprechau: | and it's fully supported hardware mpeg2 encoding and capture |
| [05:59:49] | Solv: | leprechau, true? well actually i might.... |
| [06:00:37] | Solv: | i was going to get a card through my works computer wholesaler...but the only ones i saw that they had cheap were avermedia ones...had the very common saa7134 chipset |
| [06:00:48] | leprechau: | http://cgi.ebay.com/HAUPPAUGE-WINTV-150-PVR-N . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [06:01:15] | Solv: | i know happuage are very good |
| [06:01:48] | Solv: | great...only problem is i need PAL |
| [06:01:56] | Solv: | do they exist in PAL? |
| [06:02:03] | leprechau: | hrm probably |
| [06:02:08] | leprechau: | well.... |
| [06:02:16] | leprechau: | the component should capture pal i think |
| [06:02:23] | leprechau: | ntsc is for the tuner portion I believe |
| [06:02:28] | leprechau: | let's see |
| [06:04:14] | leprechau: | model 01046: WinTV-PVR-150 with Hauppauge remote control, IR Blaster and PAL/SECAM tuner |
| [06:04:21] | leprechau: | yeah it's the tuner portions that are specific |
| [06:04:31] | leprechau: | model 01045: WinTV-PVR-150 with Hauppauge remote control, IR Blaster and NTSC tuner |
| [06:06:07] | wagner: | i would imagine the european ebay listings would have a higher prevalence of PAL hauppauge cards |
| [06:06:21] | Solv: | cool...i actually found one in australia too...so far no bids |
| [06:06:48] | wagner: | ah, australia, not europe |
| [06:06:53] | Solv: | yeah |
| [06:07:09] | wagner: | shipping US to australia is probably even higher than shipping to europe |
| [06:07:39] | wagner: | $80 shipping, on a $30 ebay auction... :P |
| [06:07:46] | Solv: | sounds like the way to go...i might do that, would mythtv be the best thing to capture in you reckon? or are there other capture proggies with more flexible options for bitrate etc etc |
| [06:07:50] | Solv: | lol |
| [06:08:00] | Solv: | http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Hauppauge-WINT-PVR-150 . . . cmdZViewItem |
| [06:08:05] | Solv: | might try this one instead =) |
| [06:08:48] | wagner: | to be honest, i would just use the v4l config tools, and then 'cat /dev/video/whatever > video_file' |
| [06:08:55] | leprechau: | yep |
| [06:09:14] | leprechau: | if it's through one of those pvr150s |
| [06:09:21] | leprechau: | it will be an mpeg2 encoded stream already |
| [06:09:37] | wagner: | otherwise, run it through mencoder |
| [06:10:43] | wagner: | mythtv is really only useful for recording something at a pre-set time |
| [06:10:47] | Solv: | wagner, leprechau thanks heaps |
| [06:11:32] | wagner: | or, you could just toss a copy of windows on it |
| [06:11:33] | leprechau: | np |
| [06:11:43] | wagner: | virtualdub could probably capture off that card natively |
| [06:11:46] | Solv: | wagner, hmmm..no |
| [06:12:24] | Solv: | i have windows in virtualbox...but i wouldn't want to take up a whole partition with it |
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| [06:12:38] | leprechau: | yeah vdub is nice....too bad you can't get direct access to hardware like that through vbox |
| [06:14:34] | Solv: | yeah....vdub is one of those few windows programs you wish you had on linux...almost seems like part of the oss movement |
| [06:15:00] | leprechau: | well cause it was ;} |
| [06:15:08] | leprechau: | vdub/nandub were open source projects |
| [06:15:29] | Solv: | ah...yeah okay...kinda meant linux oss...wish there was a port |
| [06:15:32] | leprechau: | btw.... lives is pretty nice on the linux side |
| [06:15:33] | wagner: | vdub is most certainly part of the oss movement, the author even says it was a testament to his free time and boredom in college |
| [06:15:50] | Solv: | avidemux is similar |
| [06:16:05] | wagner: | bored college hackers are the cornerstone off all good oss projects |
| [06:16:11] | Solv: | hehe |
| [06:16:21] | Solv: | vdub under wine? |
| [06:16:35] | Solv: | would wine detect the hardware? |
| [06:16:39] | leprechau: | naw |
| [06:16:59] | Solv: | =( |
| [06:17:29] | Solv: | that's alright i'll just stop being a baby and fuse the cli |
| [06:17:31] | leprechau: | if you get really desperate...throw another hard drive in there and just stick win2k on it for just video ripping |
| [06:17:34] | Solv: | s/fuse/use |
| [06:17:52] | leprechau: | if you're anything like me you got at least one old 20GB hdd laying around someplace |
| [06:18:20] | wagner: | you know, im going to have an absurd amount of spare drives left when i phase out my current raid array |
| [06:18:28] | Solv: | yeah i actually have an old compaq small form factor with windows xp on it...but i only use it as a thin client to my opensuse server =) |
| [06:18:49] | wagner: | good thing too, since most of my old spares are dead |
| [06:18:55] | leprechau: | hehe |
| [06:18:56] | Solv: | i might be able to jam it in there...and leave the case open |
| [06:19:04] | leprechau: | i have a stack of 20GB pata drives in the garage |
| [06:19:31] | leprechau: | from all the old compaq/ibm netvistas/etc... i've gutted building solid state routers out of em |
| [06:19:47] | Solv: | if only you could back in time....sell em all for top dollar =) |
| [06:20:16] | wagner: | well, if you could go back in time, there are more worthwhile ways to make money |
| [06:20:35] | leprechau: | p3 700–1Ghz small form factors with 256mb ram on em... slap in a cf-ide adapter and pfsense with 2–3 nics (plus onboard one) and sell those puppies for $550 a pop |
| [06:20:47] | leprechau: | just call it a router and all of a sudden it's gold |
| [06:21:10] | Solv: | wagner, suggestions? |
| [06:21:33] | Solv: | leprechau, do you rub off the brand labels? |
| [06:21:42] | wagner: | stock market, sport event gambling, travelling side show making predictions.... |
| [06:21:52] | leprechau: | Solv, not usually....sometimes though |
| [06:22:05] | leprechau: | wagner, watch back to the future lately? |
| [06:22:10] | Solv: | lol |
| [06:22:12] | Solv: | beat me to it |
| [06:22:36] | leprechau: | biff and his magazine ;} |
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| [06:23:08] | Solv: | good ol biff |
| [06:23:14] | leprechau: | aight...time for bed...night gents |
| [06:23:22] | wagner: | im just saying you can think of something better to do with a time machine than pawning off outdated computers |
| [06:23:50] | leprechau: | im sure you could sell a p3 1ghz to nasa for a few mill in 1960 |
| [06:24:09] | Solv: | yes this is all very true |
| [06:24:22] | leprechau: | p3 1ghz with linux on it......the world as we know it would be undone |
| [06:24:24] | leprechau: | lol |
| [06:24:25] | wagner: | yeah, but then the NSA locks you up in a hole for two decades searching for your secrets |
| [06:24:38] | Solv: | but in the end....you'd still have a garage full of pata drives to get rid of =) |
| [06:25:02] | leprechau: | hell a 1GB CF card |
| [06:25:11] | leprechau: | would sell for hundreds of thousands |
| [06:25:13] | leprechau: | or more |
| [06:25:28] | wagner: | only if they had some way of reading it |
| [06:25:51] | Solv: | i mean you COULD take them to the tip...or be environmentally conscious and go back in time instead |
| [06:25:53] | leprechau: | true... FAT wasn't invented yet |
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| [06:26:19] | wagner: | better to just give it to them, and watch them toil away for years trying to figure out how to use it |
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| [06:26:24] | leprechau: | lol |
| [06:26:32] | Solv: | excellent |
| [06:26:42] | leprechau: | 4GB mirco xd card...here you go |
| [06:26:48] | wagner: | they dont have to know about, or use, FAT |
| [06:26:55] | wagner: | just access the card directly |
| [06:27:01] | leprechau: | look at that one under your mircoscope |
| [06:27:21] | leprechau: | this card will hold 4 billion characters of information |
| [06:27:27] | leprechau: | watch em all pass out |
| [06:27:43] | Solv: | i love it when channels go OT |
| [06:27:50] | leprechau: | hehe |
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| [06:28:00] | leprechau: | it's the night long crawl |
| [06:28:08] | wagner: | time travel should always be considered on topic |
| [06:28:11] | leprechau: | all of IRC is off topic during these hours |
| [06:28:16] | wagner: | much like plans for raptor defense |
| [06:28:28] | leprechau: | hahah |
| [06:28:29] | Solv: | lol |
| [06:28:39] | leprechau: | on that note...im gonna catch some sleep |
| [06:28:41] | leprechau: | lates... |
| [06:28:43] | Solv: | night |
| [06:29:03] | wagner: | yeah, its 2:30, i should stop watching tv and go to bed |
| [06:29:26] | Solv: | it's only 4:30pm here |
| [06:30:36] | tank-man: | record it and watch it later :P |
| [06:30:51] | wagner: | record a recording? |
| [06:31:13] | wagner: | youre not implying i actually watch live tv are you? |
| [06:31:24] | Solv: | that's blaspehmy |
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| [06:33:22] | riddlebox: | wagner, I have the mediamvp working for everything but livetv right now |
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| [07:00:18] | banyan: | hey... why would hitting "Listen to Music" do absolutely nothing in my frontend? I have mythmusic installed. |
| [07:00:53] | banyan: | the rebuild has gotten one successful record, btw... yay... |
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| [07:42:28] | Solv: | trying to open a myth recording with mythweb in firefox...the asx stream is supposedly handled by mplayerplug-in, but firefox asks me if i want to open it with a program instead of just playing it in the browser...is this a myth problem or a mplayer configuration problem? |
| [07:44:13] | xris: | mplayer |
| [07:44:18] | xris: | or rather, firefox |
| [07:44:30] | xris: | just click on the mpg if you want the browser to play it. that might work |
| [07:45:03] | Solv: | na it wants to download the whole lot first...rather than stream it |
| [07:47:04] | Solv: | i actually just want to know what filenames correspond to what episodes...as i have a heap of mpeg recordings that aren't in my database and are taking up space...so i want to delete them, and keep the ones that actually show up in mythtv if that makes sense...but theres no way of telling which ones are which that i can see |
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| [07:48:59] | Solv: | actually i just discovered something...the time of their creation will be the time the recording ends...so i can figure it out like that...slow process, but what the hell |
| [07:50:25] | famicom__: | ej |
| [07:50:37] | famicom__: | is ther any way i can have mythtv check my database integrity |
| [07:50:43] | famicom__: | mine ios pretty much fucked up |
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| [07:54:41] | otwin: | famicom__: have a look at optimize_mythdb.pl in contrib |
| [07:55:05] | famicom__: | thanks |
| [07:57:27] | xris: | Solv: could just run mythrename.pl and have it change the names of the known recordings to something else. |
| [07:57:38] | xris: | then you'd know which files aren't in the db |
| [07:58:04] | famicom__: | oh |
| [07:58:06] | famicom__: | its worse than that |
| [07:58:13] | famicom__: | i cant even connect to the motherfucking backed |
| [08:03:55] | cesman: | myisamchk -F -r /var/lib/mysql/mythconverg/*MYI |
| [08:06:01] | famicom__: | nope |
| [08:06:08] | famicom__: | still fx0red |
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| [08:41:24] | camden: | hello |
| [08:42:47] | justinh: | aye |
| [08:43:37] | camden: | so, I'm trying to boot up neogeo games with mythtv, and there are problems |
| [08:44:03] | camden: | advancemame only accepts the name of a game, say 'mslugx' while the actual file is 'mslugx.zip' |
| [08:44:39] | camden: | but mythtv doesn't have an option, that I know of, to strip the file extension before passing the filename to the external program. |
| [08:44:56] | camden: | so advmame just fails silently because it doesn't know what to do with 'mslugx.zip' |
| [08:44:58] | justinh: | what kind of lameness is that? |
| [08:45:08] | justinh: | (advancemame I mean) |
| [08:45:24] | camden: | it has to do with mame's wierd achitechture, I think |
| [08:45:46] | camden: | it's not like zsnes which can always expect a certain type of file |
| [08:45:52] | cesman: | sdlmame works fine here |
| [08:45:57] | cesman: | as did xmame |
| [08:46:05] | camden: | I'm compiling xmame right now |
| [08:46:24] | camden: | does xmame have an onscreen menu like advmame? |
| [08:46:35] | justinh: | no idea |
| [08:46:59] | cesman: | yes, there is a menu |
| [08:47:06] | justinh: | don't do emulation. hardly anybody here does |
| [08:47:07] | camden: | sweet |
| [08:47:16] | cesman: | however as I've never used advancemame, I don't know if the menus are the same |
| [08:48:02] | camden: | hopefully they are |
| [08:48:21] | camden: | I don't want to have to manually configure my joystick |
| [08:48:29] | cesman: | the tilde will bring up the menu |
| [08:48:51] | cesman: | camden: which version of xmame are you compiling? |
| [08:49:01] | cesman: | the latest version I'm aware of is .106 |
| [08:49:24] | cesman: | while MAME is now up to .124 (or somewhere around there...) |
| [08:49:48] | cesman: | camden: you might to take a look at SDLMAME as it is currently being maintained |
| [08:50:07] | camden: | cesman: I'm compiling 1.06 |
| [08:50:13] | camden: | I have had poor luck with sdlmame |
| [08:52:21] | cesman: | works fine here :) |
| [08:54:31] | camden: | hmm turns out I successfully compiled it but it's not supporting my joystick (sdlmame) |
| [08:57:21] | justinh: | heh I don't even know if my frontend has a joystick port or not |
| [08:58:01] | cesman: | most are USB these days... |
| [08:58:03] | justinh: | hmmm USB controllers only |
| [08:58:13] | ** justinh is still living in the 1990s ** | |
| [08:58:16] | camden: | hmm might have had some luck with the '-joystick' switch |
| [09:03:03] | camden: | looking pretty close |
| [09:03:10] | camden: | sdlmame isn't so picky |
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| [09:22:39] | camden: | sweeeet done! neo geo games integrated |
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| [11:21:01] | dustybin: | blist all |
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| [11:31:18] | orko: | hi. |
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| [11:31:57] | orko: | I use a calbe tv and dvb-t card. Is it possible to have only one entry for a channel that appears on both sources in the EPG. |
| [11:32:34] | orko: | i would like to see only "BBC" in the EPG and let mythtv decide which card to use. |
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| [11:33:25] | ajh: | I think if you hide one entry it will still record from it, but test. |
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| [11:33:41] | orko: | what do you mean by hide? |
| [11:34:01] | orko: | not putting it to the favourites? |
| [11:34:10] | ajh: | that would also work. |
| [11:34:31] | ajh: | but no, just go in the editor and uncheck the show in guide. |
| [11:34:47] | ajh: | I 'think' that will do it, but I haven't tested it. |
| [11:34:52] | ajh: | Now, time to go climbing. |
| [11:35:10] | orko: | ok. but this does not solve my problem. i am talking about live tv. |
| [11:35:33] | orko: | if i hide it from the epg then i can only wathc from the source that is not hidden in the epg. |
| [11:35:55] | orko: | eg. i hide the dvb bbc channel then i can only watch cable bbc. |
| [11:36:10] | orko: | i did not test it but i think so. |
| [11:36:27] | rockhound: | can someone explain me why I don't get sound if I set max audio channels to 5.1? |
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| [11:43:53] | orko: | #part mythtv |
| [11:43:56] | orko: | sorry. |
| [11:45:20] | directhex: | you need to use a common source |
| [11:45:39] | directhex: | i.e. use tv_grab_uk_rt for both sources, so the descriptions and xmltv ids are identical |
| [11:46:40] | orko: | directhex: i do |
| [11:46:56] | orko: | but bbc appears in the epg twice |
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| [11:47:20] | dustybin: | "...you might as well skip the Xmas celebration completely, and instead sit in front of your linux computer playing with the all-new-and-improved linux kernel version." – Linus Torvalds |
| [11:47:25] | dustybin: | <3 that quote |
| [11:48:30] | ajh: | where's that from? |
| [11:48:58] | dustybin: | http://dontburnmybeans.blogspot.com/2008/01/t . . . ll-time.html |
| [11:49:30] | justinh: | not one for hiding his light behind a bushel is he, mister Torvalds |
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| [11:51:28] | ajh: | Thanks. Will need to figure out the original source later, finding a quote for the OLS shirts is always interesting. |
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| [12:02:53] | justinh: | pfff |
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| [12:49:12] | MythbuntuGuest31: | hello can someone help me to install mythbuntu correct? at last i have install it with the gforce 5+ driver and active tvout with s-video and than the monitor and tv is blank after installation |
| [12:49:25] | MythbuntuGuest31: | what must i use for my 6600 gf graphic card? |
| [12:49:35] | MythbuntuGuest31: | s-video outpt and pal-b here in german? |
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| [13:16:03] | psofa: | 2008-05–25 16:14:29.620 NVP: interlaced frame seen after 3 progressive frames <-uhm lol? hows that possible? |
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| [13:33:08] | dustybin: | if a device takes a 12v power supply, could i use a X10 power supply like this |
| [13:33:12] | dustybin: | http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/product.ph . . . _878_876_878 |
| [13:33:28] | gbee: | bad stream maybe – a few channels employ idiots on their engineering teams meaning streams contain all sorts of incorrect info or non-standard stuff |
| [13:34:35] | gbee: | dustybin: yeah, although this is the one I've got – http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo= . . . amp;doy=25m5 |
| [13:35:09] | dustybin: | gbee: bis that X10 ? |
| [13:35:10] | dustybin: | is |
| [13:35:55] | gbee: | ahh no, sorry missed that bit in what you were saying |
| [13:36:08] | dustybin: | the X10 one has a fixed voltage of: DC power supply (12V 100mAh) |
| [13:36:25] | dustybin: | your one is switchable |
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| [13:36:29] | gbee: | do x10 devices need specific x10 unit? Seems odd |
| [13:36:45] | dustybin: | yep, thats what the dials are for |
| [13:37:08] | dustybin: | gbee: nope they dont, i could buy another adapter |
| [13:37:15] | gbee: | guess I need to learn more about x10, I'd have thought a power supply was a power supply :) |
| [13:37:43] | dustybin: | it just makes things look tidy if one can buy the actual power supply as the X10 unit |
| [13:38:05] | dustybin: | otherwise you can buy a X10 appliance module and plug the standard power supply into it |
| [13:39:32] | gbee: | ahh right, so that power supply has the ability to turn itself on/off? Sorry, I misunderstood completly – though you were looking to power a 12v x10 devices, not a 12v device with x10 switchable power :) |
| [13:39:53] | dustybin: | yep |
| [13:40:07] | dustybin: | if i buy some AXIS 207W wireless cameras, id like to be able to turn them on and off |
| [13:40:38] | dustybin: | so maybe i could buy that X10 powersupply and plug that straight into the cameras |
| [13:41:26] | dustybin: | otherwise, i could just buy the standard X10 appliance module, and plug the cameras standard power supply into that, i think this is the safest option because you know the voltages will match properly |
| [13:42:04] | justinh: | why would you want the cameras to be turned off? |
| [13:42:12] | dustybin: | justinh: waste of electric |
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| [13:42:35] | justinh: | the price of securiddy :P |
| [13:42:55] | dustybin: | justinh: its not 100% security, 90% geekness and 10% security :P |
| [13:43:05] | psofa: | what mb/s should this normaly yield? dd if=/dev/urandom of=/mnt/recordings/testfile bs=1024k count=100 |
| [13:44:14] | justinh: | dustybin: total waste of your money in that case |
| [13:44:22] | dustybin: | justinh: indeed :-) |
| [13:45:24] | dustybin: | does everyone here leave the TV and other A/V stuff on standby when not in use? does A/V equipment, including TVs still use quite a bit of power even on standby? |
| [13:45:48] | dustybin: | are there any risks of fire if equipment is left on standby? |
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| [13:47:10] | janneg: | psofa: it's 6M/s here, but it's testing the cpu and not the hard disc |
| [13:47:51] | psofa: | yeah thats what im thinking as well.isnt there any cheap random device? |
| [13:48:38] | janneg: | why would you want random data? for testing hard disc speed /dev/zero is enough |
| [13:49:35] | psofa: | janneg, because dd if=/dev/zero of=./testfile bs=1024k count=100 yields 1.3gb which i suppose is a lie.i dont know why this happens though |
| [13:49:36] | justinh: | dustybin: those x10 things generally take as much as 2W even when they're off. some fscking saving! |
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| [13:50:03] | janneg: | and 6M bytes per second random data is not that bad |
| [13:50:14] | dustybin: | justinh: seriously? :-0 |
| [13:50:25] | justinh: | dustybin: yeah check out the specs |
| [13:50:32] | dustybin: | jeeze :-( |
| [13:52:09] | adante: | say, how can i tell which /dev/dvb/adapterX card is which? |
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| [13:53:06] | justinh: | dustybin: 20mA @ 240V – simple ohms law P = IV so 240 * 20/1000 = 2.88W ... that's a complete over-simplification though because it's AC & a capacitive load. right ballpark though |
| [13:53:31] | directhex: | adante, in mythtv-setup, 'dvb card number' is the X |
| [13:53:43] | directhex: | adante, so it's s question of what you've named your sources |
| [13:53:56] | adante: | oh should have mentioned.. via a shell? |
| [13:57:03] | justinh: | heh wouldn't want to be up a ladder outside today |
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| [14:16:03] | psofa: | can new mythtv builds switch automatically to interlaced modelines when theres interlaced content? |
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| [14:30:58] | gbee: | psofa: yes |
| [14:31:11] | gbee: | psofa: err no – sorry, it can't switch modelines |
| [14:31:16] | psofa: | lol |
| [14:31:47] | gbee: | you want to use a progressive modeline with deinterlacing – the deinterlacing is only applied when the content is interlaced |
| [14:32:36] | psofa: | yeah im not that satisfied with software deinterlacing .ill try a recent ver to see if its got any better |
| [14:33:30] | psofa: | btw is it possible to access the latest 0.21 fixes from within a revision number in trunk?Dont wanna change my trunk pulling ebuilds/renaming etc |
| [14:34:13] | gbee: | 0.21 includes Greedy and Yadif deinterlacers – personally I can't really see the difference between those and linear blend, but you might |
| [14:35:14] | psofa: | maybe the stuttering i see is not because of the interlacing but sth else im still investigating |
| [14:35:26] | gbee: | psofa: svn up -r 16468 |
| [14:36:53] | gbee: | people seem to like Greedy etc better and if I stared at the screen looking for differences I might do too, but on casual inspection I can't see it |
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| [14:39:28] | justinh: | interlaced modes seldom get the fields in the right order anyway – there's never an interrupt for the player to use so it can tell which field is being output |
| [14:39:40] | justinh: | 50–50 chance :P |
| [14:40:26] | justinh: | AFAIK the only VGA card to ever do a proper interlaced output was a matrox thing – but that was only a framebuffer anyway so no juicy Xv |
| [14:42:51] | GreyFoxx: | psof: Stuttering using greedyh2 ? |
| [14:43:28] | GreyFoxx: | I've noticed odd stuttering using greedyh2 with dvd playback, and for some reason only dvd playback. Switching to normal greedyh it went away |
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| [14:45:21] | Hobbes`: | anyone using mythtv on gentoo ? I'm having trouble installing the mythvideo plugin |
| [14:45:24] | psofa: | GreyFoxx, to be honest i dont remember.every one of them seemed bad,greedy h2 was the best iirc |
| [14:46:44] | gbee: | psofa: HD or SD? |
| [14:46:50] | psofa: | none seemed the best in terms of smoothness.though it was obviously full of interlaced artifacts |
| [14:46:53] | psofa: | gbee, sd |
| [14:47:08] | gbee: | hmm, not a matter of CPU limitations then |
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| [14:47:34] | psofa: | hard disks write at 70mb/s so not a problem there as well |
| [14:48:12] | psofa: | id bet its the ******* nvidia xv drivers |
| [14:49:28] | Hobbes`: | or compiz |
| [14:49:41] | psofa: | lol im not crazy |
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| [16:43:40] | positron_: | Hello! |
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| [16:44:09] | positron_: | I have a little problem, I can only see one channel that is the first I set to appear in mythtv-setup |
| [16:44:20] | positron_: | It doesn't change |
| [16:44:26] | Hobbes`: | this place is awfully quiet positron_ :) |
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| [16:44:43] | positron_: | You fixed your problem? :) |
| [16:44:51] | Hobbes`: | nope... |
| [16:46:03] | positron_: | Do you think it's a database problem, Hobbes`? |
| [16:47:36] | Hobbes`: | no clue... were you able to scan all channels ? |
| [16:47:48] | positron_: | I think so |
| [16:49:14] | positron_: | At least in channel editor I have about 40 channels |
| [16:49:36] | sphery: | positron_: do you have something, like /bin/true, specified for "External channel change command" |
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| [16:50:09] | positron_: | I have /bin/true |
| [16:50:56] | sphery: | positron_: that's telling it to run that program to change the channel (rather than having Myth tell the card to change the channel) |
| [16:51:02] | sphery: | so change it to "" (empty) |
| [16:51:23] | positron_: | Uhm... |
| [16:51:29] | positron_: | I was scanning again |
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| [16:51:42] | positron_: | And I was going to mythfilldatabase |
| [16:51:50] | positron_: | Giving it a last try |
| [16:51:59] | positron_: | Give me a second, sphery |
| [16:54:54] | positron_: | sphery, I didn't understand how to use /bin/true |
| [16:55:03] | positron_: | It didn't work what I was doing |
| [16:56:04] | sphery: | positron_: so what happens when you try to change the channel? Does the OSD show you that you're on a different channel even though the TV is actually showing the first channel? |
| [16:56:20] | sphery: | i.e. does Myth think the channel changed when it didn't? |
| [16:56:32] | positron_: | I press number 2, 4, etc and it shows the number but doesn't change channel |
| [16:57:18] | justinh: | don't you need to press SELECT for that to work by default? |
| [16:57:38] | positron_: | SELECT? |
| [16:57:38] | sphery: | 24 Enter, right? |
| [16:57:43] | positron_: | Dind't see that |
| [16:57:46] | sphery: | Select = Enter |
| [16:57:56] | positron_: | sphery, also, numbers like that |
| [16:58:00] | positron_: | I'll try |
| [16:58:22] | justinh: | IIRC that's the default behaviour |
| [16:59:24] | positron_: | I only see Position and Position cleared |
| [17:00:00] | sphery: | should only see that if you don't have numbers on screen |
| [17:00:11] | sphery: | i.e. you're waiting too long and the numbers are getting cleared, right? |
| [17:00:42] | positron_: | I tried right after too |
| [17:01:06] | positron_: | For example, pressed 3 and Enter |
| [17:01:21] | sphery: | and 3 is a valid channel number? |
| [17:01:29] | positron_: | Uhm... |
| [17:01:34] | positron_: | It should be |
| [17:01:43] | positron_: | But it's the first time I use mythtv |
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| [17:03:07] | sphery: | In frontend setting, there's one called, "Change channels immediately without select" (default false). Did you change it to true (checked)? It's on the page "General (Basic)" under General Settings |
| [17:03:33] | positron_: | I think I didn't change that but I'll see |
| [17:03:37] | sphery: | basically, the valid channel numbers are those that /you/ configure in mythtv-setup when you do your channel configuration. |
| [17:04:01] | sphery: | BTW, where in the world are you? I.e. are you in the US and using the Schedules Direct grabber? |
| [17:04:11] | positron_: | Portugal |
| [17:04:22] | sphery: | And are you scanning analog or digital channels? |
| [17:04:28] | positron_: | Analog |
| [17:04:59] | sphery: | OK, chances are the channel numbers are OK, but you can check in mythtv-setup in the channel editor |
| [17:06:23] | positron_: | I was looking for the option in frontend |
| [17:07:36] | positron_: | Found it |
| [17:07:43] | sphery: | best bet is to have it unchecked until you get the channel change working |
| [17:07:50] | sphery: | then, if you want, you can check it |
| [17:07:56] | positron_: | Okay |
| [17:08:04] | positron_: | It's unmarked |
| [17:08:04] | sphery: | so was it unchecked? |
| [17:08:07] | sphery: | cool |
| [17:08:08] | positron_: | Yes |
| [17:08:36] | positron_: | What should I try? |
| [17:08:50] | positron_: | I think it's not filling properly the database |
| [17:08:59] | sphery: | try hitting 3 I |
| [17:09:12] | positron_: | It uses wget and so and it says unauthorized |
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| [17:10:03] | positron_: | It shows Jump to but doesn't change |
| [17:10:41] | sphery: | OK. Can you tell I don't use LiveTV... |
| [17:11:01] | positron_: | Ahm |
| [17:12:54] | positron_: | It's the only thing missing me then I wanted to configure LIRC |
| [17:12:55] | sphery: | hmmm. it looks like it should be space or enter to change the channel |
| [17:13:20] | sphery: | I don't know why it wouldn't work other than a broken input sources configuration. |
| [17:14:08] | positron_: | Maybe |
| [17:14:17] | sphery: | for which, the best I could do is say that the following helps you get rid of a broken one (but I don't know how to get yours working): http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/264034#264034 |
| [17:14:20] | positron_: | And I get segmentation faults sometimes |
| [17:15:36] | positron_: | I have 0.21_p16867 |
| [17:15:46] | psofa: | at last! switched from december trunk to fixes /used gl video renderer and the 2 year old stuttering is gonne!damn you nvidia's xv! be cursed! |
| [17:21:16] | camden: | exit |
| [17:21:22] | camden: | heh, woops |
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| [17:28:23] | gbee: | poor deluded Bloomberg seems to think it's HD |
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| [17:42:24] | Gumby: | Has anyone ever seen this error in mythbackend.log before and know how to fix it. "2008-05–25 10:38:42.474 ERROR when trying to delete file: /GetPlaybackURL/UNABLE/TO/FIND/LOCAL/FILE/ON/DVR/1406_20080310002257.mpg. File doesn't exist. Database metadata will not be removed." |
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| [17:44:15] | Aval0n: | gbee |
| [17:44:31] | Aval0n: | do you know if it is possible to toggle AC3/DTS passthrough from command line> |
| [17:44:34] | Aval0n: | ? |
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| [18:07:31] | Aval0n: | gumby have you been deleting files from command line? |
| [18:07:35] | Aval0n: | and not from within mythtv itself? |
| [18:07:40] | Gumby: | Aval0n: nope |
| [18:08:09] | Aval0n: | i would just make a file called that |
| [18:08:17] | Aval0n: | and put it there |
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| [18:08:24] | Aval0n: | so it can delete it... |
| [18:08:52] | Gumby: | Aval0n: that directory path is not right though. I'd sooner fix the problem completely then just apply a bandaid |
| [18:09:19] | Gumby: | I googled something about recording groups not being set properly. I still need to look into it more |
| [18:09:58] | Aval0n: | somehow it thinks that file is still there |
| [18:10:06] | Aval0n: | and it looks like it was removed without mythtv knowing about it |
| [18:10:15] | Aval0n: | it obviously is in your recording directory |
| [18:10:41] | Aval0n: | you shouldn't need to /look/at/that/path/to know where your recordings dir is :) |
| [18:11:02] | Aval0n: | is it just that file that it complains about? |
| [18:11:05] | Aval0n: | if so do what I said |
| [18:11:11] | Aval0n: | it it does it more than with just that one file |
| [18:11:18] | Aval0n: | you may actually have some sort of weird issue |
| [18:11:38] | Aval0n: | you recordings dir is usually /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ |
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| [18:12:46] | positron_: | I fixed the problem, I just wanted to know now how to switch channels faster |
| [18:12:56] | positron_: | It takes about 3–4 seconds |
| [18:14:49] | Gumby: | Aval0n: I'll give it a shot. I actually see the file in /var/lob/mythtv/recordings but my recordings dir is /recordings. Coppied the file into /recordings. I'll see if the message continues. Possibly the recording was made before I setup/moved my recordings directory |
| [18:23:49] | Aval0n: | yeah |
| [18:23:52] | Aval0n: | that would make perfect sense |
| [18:24:18] | Aval0n: | I knew the recording went missing unknown to mythtv due to user intervention somehow |
| [18:25:07] | Aval0n: | gbee you around? |
| [18:29:32] | _gunni_: | positron_: You wont get it to work faster. Thats how mythtv works. tv ->record to file -> play file in frontend. So there is always a buffer that will cause that long channel switching time |
| [18:29:53] | positron_: | All right, thanks |
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| [18:34:19] | psofa: | positron_, dvb? |
| [18:34:33] | positron_: | dvb? |
| [18:34:38] | psofa: | satelite |
| [18:34:44] | positron_: | No |
| [18:34:48] | positron_: | Analog |
| [18:34:55] | psofa: | ok nevermind |
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| [18:59:48] | jblack: | Is there a way to get myth to autocrop borders? |
| [19:04:35] | justinh: | not with 0.21 |
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| [19:17:10] | catzilla: | what's a good mini pc for mythtv? |
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| [19:34:06] | robbins61: | Anyone familiar with hosting videos from mythbackend to an xbox 360? |
| [19:41:33] | robbins61: | or PS3 |
| [19:44:40] | robbins61: | my ps3 can see the myth UPnP server and all of the video directories |
| [19:44:41] | squish103: | doesn't it work out the box? |
| [19:45:00] | robbins61: | however, when i click on any of the directories it says no files found |
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| [19:51:25] | directhex: | robbins61, that's a known bug in 0.21 |
| [19:51:35] | directhex: | i think GreyFoxx fixed it. let me find the bug |
| [19:52:04] | robbins61: | alright |
| [19:52:05] | robbins61: | thanks |
| [19:52:36] | directhex: | fixed in svn changeset 16577 |
| [19:53:16] | directhex: | in 0.21-fixes |
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| [19:53:49] | robbins61: | alright |
| [19:53:52] | robbins61: | how do i update that? |
| [19:54:22] | directhex: | how did you install? |
| [19:54:38] | robbins61: | from atrpms |
| [19:55:21] | directhex: | then beat the guy who makes those RPMs with the "update your packages" stick |
| [19:55:33] | robbins61: | alright |
| [19:55:34] | directhex: | or switch to ubuntu, which has a newer version of 0.21-fixes |
| [19:55:49] | robbins61: | i mean, i installed myth months ago and haven't updated since |
| [19:55:53] | robbins61: | so they may be updated |
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| [20:21:51] | JohnMahowald: | I think atrpms waits until actual release for package updates |
| [20:24:31] | jblack: | Awwwhhhh. |
| [20:25:42] | directhex: | that's moronic |
| [20:25:49] | directhex: | 0.21 release is broken in many places |
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| [20:33:04] | stiev3: | How would I go about switching from having to type http://<internal ip>/mythweb to http://foo/mythweb on my lan? My backend acts as the dhcp/router. Just looking for specific terms to read up on. |
| [20:33:32] | xris: | stiev3: like running your own dns servre? |
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| [20:34:49] | Fenix-Dark: | hey |
| [20:34:51] | stiev3: | possibly, although that sounds like it's already beyond the scope of what I'm able to do. |
| [20:35:05] | Fenix-Dark: | if i get a second tv tuner card, could i use a splitter and hook up both tuners to my single antenna? |
| [20:35:17] | xris: | stiev3: the other option is to make sure it has a static IP, and add entries in the hosts files on all of your computers. |
| [20:35:25] | xris: | Fenix-Dark: yeah |
| [20:35:45] | xris: | might also need an amp, depending on how strong the signal is off of the antenna... |
| [20:35:46] | Fenix-Dark: | xris, would that hurt signal quality? |
| [20:36:03] | xris: | it could, yes. no way to know how much without trying, though |
| [20:36:07] | Fenix-Dark: | its a terk HDTVa |
| [20:36:09] | Fenix-Dark: | comes with an amp |
| [20:43:59] | xris: | cool if it works for you. my little hd antenna does me almost no good (then again, I'm on the back side of a hill). |
| [20:44:25] | xris: | you might want to look into an hdhomerun if you're shopping for a new tuner. cute little device |
| [20:44:35] | Fenix-Dark: | i have a pchdtv 5500 |
| [20:44:37] | Fenix-Dark: | it works well |
| [20:44:46] | Fenix-Dark: | its also a low profile card |
| [20:45:07] | Fenix-Dark: | alghouth the only downside is that it does not come with component inputs |
| [20:45:12] | Fenix-Dark: | but that would make it cost more than $130 |
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| [20:48:43] | xris: | component is an analog signal |
| [20:48:55] | xris: | only one card I know of can do that, and it's about $250 |
| [20:49:08] | xris: | the hdhomerun isn't a card, it's a network device. ethernet, with 2 tuners. |
| [20:49:33] | Fenix-Dark: | oh ok |
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| [20:49:42] | Fenix-Dark: | so like a slingbox with a tv tuner? |
| [20:49:52] | xris: | sort of, but without the re-compression. |
| [20:49:58] | xris: | http://silicondust.com/ |
| [20:49:59] | Fenix-Dark: | neat |
| [20:50:21] | xris: | it's really cool. and they're a cool company — sponsoring mythtv development, etc. |
| [20:50:58] | Fenix-Dark: | ah neat |
| [20:51:11] | Fenix-Dark: | atm i'm using kaffene, i haven't had the chance to setup and test out mythtv |
| [20:51:18] | xris: | I think the component-input card is from hauppauge, not sure what it's called, though.. have only heard rumors of it from another mythtv dev who works for red hat. It didn't have linux support last I heard, but that was gong to change soon. |
| [20:51:37] | Fenix-Dark: | my monitor has component inputs so it doesnt matter that much |
| [20:52:46] | xris: | as long as you don't care about recording.. which is the whole point of mythtv. |
| [20:52:57] | Fenix-Dark: | i'd like to do recording |
| [20:52:59] | xris: | but what are you getting the component signal from? cable or satellite? |
| [20:53:19] | Fenix-Dark: | we will be getting verizon fios |
| [20:53:24] | Fenix-Dark: | but atm i just have ota atsc |
| [20:53:45] | xris: | you might be able to record over firewire from FIOS. |
| [20:53:48] | Fenix-Dark: | and i want mythtv for the tv guide stuff |
| [20:53:48] | xris: | it works in some areas. |
| [20:53:50] | cesman: | Fenix-Dark: how is your install going?! |
| [20:54:00] | Fenix-Dark: | cesman, didnt start it yet, dont have time |
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| [21:12:27] | metalac: | hey guys, ever since i upgraded to 0.21 my tv guide, while in liveTV is REALLY slow |
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| [21:12:43] | metalac: | takes it about 4–5 seconds to register that i pushed an up or down arrow or entered a number |
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| [21:13:15] | metalac: | i have a fairly fast computer (core2duo) and this never happened before 0.21, anyone knows what might be up? |
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| [21:23:05] | nuonguy: | did comcast stop supporing firewire in the bay area? |
| [21:23:45] | nuonguy: | I'm on the phone with them and their support people keep saying they've never supported it |
| [21:23:46] | metalac: | nuonguy: i don't think they're allowed to do that legaly |
| [21:23:58] | nuonguy: | it's an FCC requirement, AFAIK |
| [21:24:09] | nuonguy: | in the past their people knew what I was talking about |
| [21:24:11] | metalac: | i'm using in Seattle, no problem for almost 2 years |
| [21:24:14] | nuonguy: | now they seem clueless |
| [21:24:25] | nuonguy: | worked well for more than 4 months here |
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| [21:24:34] | nuonguy: | actually, it's been 6 months now |
| [21:25:03] | metalac: | i'm still trying to figure why ABC is encrypted |
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| [21:39:40] | jblack: | Arrghh. I can _not_ figure out why this frontend segfaults. I even took out the old settings from the db |
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| [21:47:16] | metalac: | jblack: did you try running it from terminal window? does it give you anything? |
| [21:48:20] | nuonguy: | are there any hidden setup screens on the DCH3200? |
| [21:48:27] | jblack: | This is what I get: http://pastebin.com/m331eb0b5 |
| [21:50:50] | metalac: | there is a flag you can give to give you more info and i don't remember i think it's like -v all |
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| [21:51:34] | metalac: | do mythfrontend --help |
| [21:51:36] | metalac: | to figure out |
| [21:53:14] | jblack: | looks like -v all |
| [21:53:26] | jblack: | yeah, that's nice and chatty |
| [21:54:09] | jblack: | lol. as soon as I hit enter on playback, it stops getting chatty. :( |
| [21:54:34] | metalac: | hmm weird, what OS? |
| [21:54:36] | jblack: | I get one line of 'video_output' mean= ...... |
| [21:54:50] | jblack: | Ubuntu Hardy. Started acting up a few months ago. |
| [21:54:50] | metalac: | did you compile it yourself? |
| [21:54:53] | jblack: | nope. |
| [21:55:09] | jblack: | I'm using this same release on two gateway laptops. The two vaio laptops, however, are broken. |
| [21:55:40] | metalac: | hmm strange |
| [21:55:59] | metalac: | anything in /var/log/myth/mythbackend.log? |
| [21:57:12] | jblack: | I'll look |
| [21:57:47] | jblack: | Nope. |
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| [21:58:47] | metalac: | strange how there is not even a clue on what's wrong |
| [21:59:12] | jblack: | I've set playback about as conservatively as one can. decoder standard, video renderer directfb (I've tried a variety). no deinterlacing.. |
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| [22:01:51] | metalac: | i'm assuming these boxes are frontends only? |
| [22:02:42] | jblack: | yeah |
| [22:03:45] | metalac: | sorry i can't be of any help, i've had various issues with my myth setup but every time something obvious pops up in some log |
| [22:03:47] | jblack: | and live preview works too. |
| [22:05:02] | metalac: | so only live tv doesn't work? |
| [22:07:27] | jblack: | Livetv and recorded tv. |
| [22:07:43] | nuonguy: | to get the diagnostics screen on the dch3200: press power,power,ok/select |
| [22:07:46] | jblack: | The little box when one is trying to decide which show to watch, _that_ works. |
| [22:07:51] | nuonguy: | had to do it a coupla times until it worked |
| [22:08:04] | nuonguy: | then d11 shows that 1394 is enabled but not active |
| [22:08:04] | metalac: | what happens if you watch that same video using mplayer ? |
| [22:08:06] | jblack: | nuonguy: Pardon? |
| [22:08:29] | jblack: | metalac: The same shows work on other frontends. |
| [22:08:58] | jblack: | and xine work (well, did not long ago) fine when recorded shows didn't. |
| [22:09:20] | metalac: | then i have no clue |
| [22:09:27] | jblack: | Me either. |
| [22:10:42] | nuonguy: | jblack: my firewire stopped working this week |
| [22:10:51] | nuonguy: | the comcast reps claim that they don't support it |
| [22:11:04] | nuonguy: | I'm doing a little tinkering to learn what the real story is |
| [22:11:17] | nuonguy: | the diagnostic screen on my dch3200 says that 1394 is enabled but not active |
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| [22:22:43] | dan__t: | Hello. |
| [22:23:03] | dan__t: | I've been doing some reading, and the best I can gather, is that I would have to use my cable box to receive digital cable channels, including the high-def channels. |
| [22:23:22] | cesman: | hello |
| [22:23:33] | dan__t: | So would I need that cable box then piped to an analog tv capture card? |
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| [22:24:08] | cesman: | dan__t: yes, you need a cable if you want "digital channels" |
| [22:24:34] | cesman: | dan__t: depending on your cable company, you might be able to ge thte channels w/ a QAM capable tuner |
| [22:24:37] | dan__t: | Ok. |
| [22:24:44] | cesman: | but the odds aren't in your favor |
| [22:24:50] | dan__t: | I understand. |
| [22:25:00] | cesman: | dan__t: you can get HD OTA |
| [22:25:07] | dan__t: | Ok. |
| [22:25:09] | cesman: | that is how I get mine.... |
| [22:25:24] | dan__t: | hehe |
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| [22:26:23] | cesman: | did I say something funny? |
| [22:26:24] | dan__t: | I'd ultimately like one set-top box that kinda has the cable box and an IR transceiver for it in the background somewhere, that MythTV controls. |
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| [22:27:03] | dan__t: | Are you familiar with any EPIA-based set-top boxes, or at least something that looks like it belongs on top of my TV, or something similar? |
| [22:27:35] | dan__t: | What would tickle me pink is if I can do it all wirelessly, and replace all the current set-top boxes with something embedded that might be able to stream over N or something. |
| [22:27:35] | cesman: | dan__t: a little... |
| [22:29:08] | dan__t: | Ideally they would each have their own cable choices, I could keep all cable boxes in a closet or something with the mythtv server, and each client would essentially be 'paired' with a cable box so I can still go that route |
| [22:29:14] | dan__t: | that would be hot. |
| [22:29:52] | PatrickDK: | heh, yuk |
| [22:30:02] | PatrickDK: | but then, I much perfer wires to wireless |
| [22:30:16] | dustybin: | me too |
| [22:30:17] | PatrickDK: | wireless 802.11g max out at 1 hd stream |
| [22:30:30] | dan__t: | And N? |
| [22:30:37] | PatrickDK: | depends on what N you get |
| [22:30:41] | dan__t: | Sure |
| [22:30:48] | dan__t: | I'm kinda swimming in waters I have no idea about |
| [22:30:52] | PatrickDK: | each N channel is 70mbit, and you can have up to 4 channels |
| [22:30:54] | dan__t: | Hope the questions aren't too retarded. |
| [22:31:04] | PatrickDK: | and an hd channel is going use 20mbit |
| [22:31:09] | dan__t: | oh ok. |
| [22:31:23] | PatrickDK: | 802.11g you get around 24mbit |
| [22:31:33] | dan__t: | cool |
| [22:31:43] | PatrickDK: | those are under perfect conditions :) |
| [22:35:58] | dan__t: | See where I'm going though? |
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| [22:45:58] | ** Tanthrix shakes a fist at Comcast for not providing Nasa TV ** | |
| [22:52:55] | PatrickDK: | heh |
| [22:53:03] | cesman: | MythStream |
| [22:55:25] | jblack: | tank-man: The Science channel is going to do it live. |
| [22:59:32] | dustybin: | how the hell did you guys hear about nasa tv |
| [22:59:47] | dustybin: | 23:54 <@McDuck> i found a 500kbit stream |
| [22:59:47] | dustybin: | 23:54 <@McDuck> nasa tv 500kbit |
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| [23:06:29] | plb: | anyone use that totem mythtv plugin? |
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| [23:09:02] | neztit1: | hi guys |
| [23:09:43] | cesman: | hello |
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| [23:09:50] | neztit1: | صاغ Ù‡ ؤشى٠سÙشق٠مهرثÙØ ;±ØŸ |
| [23:10:00] | kdub: | Whoa. |
| [23:10:02] | neztit1: | ه٠اشىل بخق ةث |
| [23:10:09] | neztit1: | sorry |
| [23:10:12] | directhex: | nobody here speaks arabic |
| [23:10:13] | kdub: | i didnt know i had arabic fonts |
| [23:10:22] | directhex: | kdub, unicode rocks your socks |
| [23:10:49] | neztit1: | why i cant start live tv – it exit for me |
| [23:11:00] | directhex: | check your frontend log |
| [23:11:16] | directhex: | if your backend is fine, then the usual reason is that the "starting channel" is set to a number you can't tune to. the default is "3" |
| [23:12:40] | neztit1: | directhex: بقخىÙØ&laqu o;ىي خن |
| [23:12:51] | kdub: | haha |
| [23:12:55] | neztit1: | ةشغﻻث Ùاث ىخ خب Ùاث ؤاشىى&Os lash;«Ù… |
| [23:13:12] | neztit1: | Ù‡ صشى٠ÙØ® Ùقغ ÙØ® ؤاشىل&Osl ash;« ه٠ىخص |
| [23:13:20] | neztit1: | sorry again |
| [23:13:24] | kdub: | no one speaks arabic |
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| [23:13:53] | directhex: | kdub, plenty of people do. just not in here |
| [23:13:53] | neztit1: | directhex: you r right man – i have 2 change the no. now |
| [23:14:21] | kdub: | pff |
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| [23:25:07] | neztit1: | directhex: the same problem |
| [23:25:55] | directhex: | frontend log? |
| [23:26:03] | neztit1: | w8 |
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| [23:28:04] | neztit1: | http://pastebin.com/m40d59b9d |
| [23:28:36] | neztit1: | Unable to initialize plugin 'mythmusic'. |
| [23:28:56] | neztit1: | Unable to initialize plugin 'mythstream |
| [23:30:18] | directhex: | that log contains no mention fo trying to start livetv |
| [23:30:38] | directhex: | the "unable to inisialize" message implies your mythtv-plugins and libmyth are different versions |
| [23:31:41] | neztit1: | what to do? |
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| [23:33:51] | kdub: | install the right versions |
| [23:34:09] | neztit1: | from the sypantic? |
| [23:34:45] | directhex: | it's unrelated, but you ought to fix it |
| [23:35:13] | dustybin: | what URL do i need to put on mplayer on my mythtv box to watch nasatv ? |
| [23:35:16] | directhex: | for your livetv problem, try pasting a log from when you actually try to watch some livetv. it should include something like "switching from "none" to "livetv" |
| [23:36:12] | dustybin: | how do i project the x output onto my mythtv box if i execute a command from my desktop |
| [23:36:21] | dustybin: | its something like, DISPLAY1:1 ? |
| [23:36:46] | directhex: | the variable is called DISPLAY |
| [23:37:38] | kdub: | dustybin, log in with "ssh -X" |
| [23:37:47] | directhex: | the name of the display is ":server.screen" or just ":server" for single-output servers. e.g. DISPLAY=:0 for the first (only) screen, or DISPLAY=:1.1 for the second screen on the second server |
| [23:37:52] | kdub: | less typing that setting the DISPLAY variable |
| [23:38:16] | directhex: | you can't just set DISPLAY across machines anayway, as xauth will block it for security reasons |
| [23:38:19] | dustybin: | aye thanks |
| [23:38:38] | dustybin: | all i need now is some kind of URL for mplayer from www.nasa.gov/ntv |
| [23:38:39] | kdub: | yeah, and you have to do "xhost +" on the machine you are physically at |
| [23:39:18] | directhex: | (note: security hole big enough to drive a truck through) |
| [23:39:29] | kdub: | security is for wimps |
| [23:39:35] | kdub: | why you watching nasatv? |
| [23:39:42] | kdub: | isnt the science channel better? |
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| [23:43:13] | Dagmar: | NO. |
| [23:43:18] | Dagmar: | Do not do `xhost +` |
| [23:43:30] | Dagmar: | That is almost ALWAYS the wrong answer. |
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| [23:43:39] | Dagmar: | Don't turn OFF the freaking access controls X has. |
| [23:43:42] | kdub: | yeah ssh +X is better |
| [23:43:55] | kdub: | but security is still for wimps |
| [23:44:17] | Dagmar: | Just because you don't have any, doesn't mean it's not keeping everyone else safe |
| [23:44:27] | kdub: | heh |
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| [23:49:05] | directhex: | if security is for wimps, why not tell us your root password and ip address? |
| [23:50:06] | kdub: | how easy would it be to get through my router if you had that? |
| [23:50:09] | kdub: | just out of curiousity |
| [23:50:48] | directhex: | well, you could set the username and password on your router to "admin" |
| [23:50:55] | directhex: | and enable remote administration, just in case |
| [23:51:00] | kdub: | heh |
| [23:51:02] | kdub: | thought so |
| [23:51:06] | directhex: | you've no reason not to, since security is for wimps |
| [23:51:21] | kdub: | everyone is happy, looks like it didnt crash |
| [23:56:55] | stiev3: | is there an option or setting to hide the mythbuntu panel when the mythfrontend is running? |
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