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Thursday, May 22nd, 2008, 00:00 UTC

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clever:

MrGandalf: a rotor?

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MrGandalf:

clever: yes, a rotor :)

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clever:

explain:P

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clever:

does the dish spin or something?

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MrGandalf:

clever: yes, a rotor is a motor

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clever:

why have the dish moving?

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GreyFoxx:

MrG: What rotor(s) did you say you used? I'm about to put the dish up on the new house and am curious what others are using

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MrGandalf:

I'm using a STaB.. works well

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MrGandalf:

clever: so you can tune multiple orbital locations.

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clever:

ahhh

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clever:

and when you let myth record, it may not aim right on its own

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clever:

enless you hack it up some

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MrGandalf:

clever: no, it aims correctly everytime.. I just don't want it recording for other reasons (big dish == wind problems)

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clever:

ahh

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clever:

you want to force myth to use it as a last resort when all other dishes are in use

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clever:

something ive thought of for smaller dishes

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clever:

cut a hole in the roof to point the dish thru

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MrGandalf:

clever: yes :)

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clever:

and cover it with a water proof sheet that doesnt block the signal

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clever:

now its out of sight and protected from the wing

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clever:

wind

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clever:

http://earth.rice.edu/mtpe/atmo/atmosphere/ho . . . dar_dome.jpg is the same thing on a giant spining dish

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clever:

basicaly

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clever:

if you had the parts you could probly make the same thing over your dish

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MrGandalf:

my lnb arm bounces due to a heavy lnb.. just need some straps and time :)

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mkrufky:

iamlindoro_: i dunno if you're watching... i just took a quick look at my recording and it's a caption episode on right now

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iamlindoro_:

Hey, actually just woke up, having a hard time adjusting to the time zone

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mkrufky:

you travelling?

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iamlindoro_:

Yep, I'm in Scotland

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mkrufky:

cool

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iamlindoro_:

and of course still in #mythtv-users :)

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mkrufky:

im still here in ATSCland

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iamlindoro_:

Now's an ideal time to break into my condo back home and steal my shit

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mkrufky:

niiice

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iamlindoro_:

Anyway, so about LOST

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mkrufky:

yeah, i'll probably end up watching these tonight

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iamlindoro_:

Anything worthwhile in the captions?

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mkrufky:

the "something nice back home" and "cabin fever" are on tonight, + captions

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mkrufky:

im not watching right now, will watch in the den on the big screen when i do

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iamlindoro_:

Ah, ok

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iamlindoro_:

I can't recall if my MythBox is recording those right now

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GreyFoxx:

tonight is the 2 hour finale isn't it ?

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mkrufky:

and next week, id guess 7–8 is "there's no place like home" part I with captions

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mkrufky:

followed by parts 2 and 3 without captions

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mkrufky:

no GreyFoxx, that is next week

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mkrufky:

on thursday

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GreyFoxx:

ahhh

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mkrufky:

tonight is the 5th and 4th to last episodes

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mkrufky:

next week they will show the final 3 , even tho they already showed the 3rd to last , last thursday

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mkrufky:

(tonight is basically repeats, but with captions)

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** mkrufky obsessed **

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iamlindoro_:

Yay for SSH tunneling

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mkrufky:

yay!

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iamlindoro_:

Yes, appears I'll hae those waiting when I get back

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mkrufky:

i always use mythweb over ssh

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mkrufky:

nice

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iamlindoro_:

There seems to be one or two things worth finding out in each caption episode and a lot of fluff

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mkrufky:

mostly fluff

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mkrufky:

to be honest, the captions really are not worth watching

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mkrufky:

but, i cant possibly pass up a chance to see new content

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iamlindoro_:

Worth it just to make sure firewire doesn't go sideways and give me a bunch of B length recordings

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iamlindoro_:

All seems well so far, though

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mkrufky:

oof

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iamlindoro_:

Will be eliminating that problem shortly, though :)

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mkrufky:

:-D

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mkrufky:

i think that will be _very_ shortly

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mkrufky:

i hope so, at least

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iamlindoro_:

Yay!

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iamlindoro_:

Dunno if you were in here earlier for the discussion re: can't capture 5.1 w/ it

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mkrufky:

hmm

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mkrufky:

i wasnt here

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mkrufky:

who reported such issue? i havent heard that, but i would certainly inquire tomorrow about it

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iamlindoro_:

It was pretty third-hand, ie forum post of a guy getting an e-mail from tech support

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mkrufky:

ah

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iamlindoro_:

But seems/seemed to be born out by the ambarella chip specs

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mkrufky:

something like that might be variable

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iamlindoro_:

which only mention 2 channel support

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mkrufky:

oooh

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mkrufky:

hmm, i think i know what you're talking about

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mkrufky:

but i dont think that applies to this device

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mkrufky:

we're not using the same chip that is found inside the geffen device

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mkrufky:

and everybody thinks we're using the same chip

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mkrufky:

but they just didnt look close enough ;-)

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** iamlindoro_ shrugs **

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iamlindoro_:

Figured if you had done any extensive testing on it you could put it to rest for sure

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mkrufky:

anyway, i'll ask about it tomorrow to find out for sure

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iamlindoro_:

would be good info, but not world-ending either way I suppose

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mkrufky:

the testing that i have done, personally, were not in that particular area of functionality

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iamlindoro_:

Fair enough, no pressure

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mkrufky:

but i know who i need to ask to find that out for sure

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mkrufky:

i'll get back to u

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iamlindoro_:

Cool, that would be appreciated

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iamlindoro_:

my internet access may be spotty at best this week

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iamlindoro_:

but I'm sure I'll catch you eventually

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mkrufky:

i wouldnt trust the tech support response to be 100% authoritative, unfortunately :-/

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iamlindoro_:

haha

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iamlindoro_:

I take all thingd with a grain of salt when they come third hand

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mkrufky:

yeah

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iamlindoro_:

CONFIRMED: Hauppauge tech support determines me to be extraordinarily well endowed and handsome.

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mkrufky:

heh, i dont think there are any women in that department

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mkrufky:

lucky you :-)

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iamlindoro_:

Nummy

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mkrufky:

ok, i just finished creating my knoppix-on-usb .... time to reboot and test it

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mkrufky:

brb

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mkrufky:

scratch that, something went wrong

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iamlindoro_:

Oooh, the new Silent Hill game looks... kinda good!

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jpabq:

mkrufky: I emailed tech support about dolby digital 5.1 support, and was told only DD2.0 was *initially* supported. I then asked what the device would do if you fed it DD5.1 on it's digital audio input. The response I got back was "You would need to set the source to PCM instead of AC3, otherwise the audio will not work properly with the SPDIF input. This will be supported in a future release."

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Dagmar:

iamlindoro: That Penny Arcade game is slick

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mkrufky:

yeah, thats a LOT different than "no"

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jpabq:

The email was from Bill V.

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mkrufky:

hmm, but does that mean a future driver release or future product release?

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iamlindoro_:

mkrufky: You're supposed to tell *us* that!

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iamlindoro_:

;)

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jpabq:

hardware, firmware or software?

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mkrufky:

heh

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mkrufky:

i only know what i need to know about it :-/

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iamlindoro_:

Dagmar: I've never read any of the PA stuff, but the game did look kinda fun

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Dagmar:

iamlindoro_: It's exactly the type of game Mike and Jerry would call fun

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Dagmar:

...and the artwork is pretty awesome

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mkrufky:

jpabq: i *think* the update is a firmware/driver update, but im not entirely sure

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jpabq:

LInux?

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mkrufky:

word?

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** mkrufky said word **

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iamlindoro_:

I can live with it either way, If it can do 5.1 via PCM out of the box then it's much ado about nothing.

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iamlindoro_:

Google says my STB can do PCM out, so pfffft, no big deal

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iamlindoro_:

5.1 it is, huzzah

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iamlindoro_:

assuming we all interpret the mouse poops correctly

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mkrufky:

grrr, i want it already

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mkrufky:

i should have one here right now, and i dont

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iamlindoro_:

Yes you should

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mkrufky:

ok, rebooting

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mkrufky:

meh, didnt work... getting the "L 99 99 " MBR problem

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mkrufky:

i think this stick might be bad

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iamlindoro_:

Jeez, no Galactica this week makes Friday seem awfully barren

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** mkrufky agrees **

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iamlindoro_:

Any krufky-esque predictions on the 12th?

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mkrufky:

hmmmmm

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jroysdon:

Anyone else having problems with SHIFT and/or CTRL getting "stuck on" ? Once this occurs, I cannot press CAPS LOCK and have it change the status. All sorts of apps crash if I try to use CTRL at this point. It may be tied to my usage of VMWare Console, but is an xorg/gnome bug.

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jroysdon:

doh, wrong channel

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mkrufky:

ive heard various opinions, but havent any real suspicions yet, myself.... although its clear that the show is telling us it's kara right now — which doesnt necessarily mean anything

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mkrufky:

...could be a trick

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iamlindoro_:

Yeah-- RDM seems to have shot that one down but it could just be misinformation

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mkrufky:

RDM ?

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iamlindoro_:

Ronald Moore, the Show runner

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mkrufky:

ah

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mkrufky:

eh, i wouldnt trust we could hear about stuff like that

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mkrufky:

but she makes perfect sense, right now

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iamlindoro_:

Sure, but sounds *way* too convenient

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mkrufky:

and baltar is too obvious. i dont think they could have it be him with any element of suspense or surprise

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iamlindoro_:

I think Gaeta, personally, but we'll see

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mkrufky:

cuz he sang?

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mkrufky:

is that was whats his name meant?

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iamlindoro_:

I dunno

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mkrufky:

y do u think gaeta?

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iamlindoro_:

Just a "feeling," no real hard facts. He is one of the few who had a good reason not to join the others when they heard music (ie he was on duty on the bridge)

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mkrufky:

hmm

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iamlindoro_:

Others think it might be Dualla, who is also a good choice

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mkrufky:

i suspected her from the begining

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mkrufky:

but lately havent thought of it

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iamlindoro_:

but those suspicions are based on the cylons being inherently evil, which I don't think they are

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iamlindoro_:

I think it's pretty clear at this point that they're as "human" as the next guy

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mkrufky:

i dont think so either

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mkrufky:

exactly

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mkrufky:

they only killed most of the humans because they thought the humans would have done so to the cylons if they could have.... so the cylons decided to one-up the humans

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iamlindoro_:

The only "happy" way to end the show is with some sort of revelation that results in a total reconciliation between the two-- we'll see I guess

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mkrufky:

i think that will happen

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iamlindoro_:

Me too

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iamlindoro_:

They're obviously genetically compatible

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mkrufky:

but i think the final cylon will not be revealed to the rest of the people / cylons

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iamlindoro_:

72 sixes for every man, it's muslim heaven!

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mkrufky:

i think that the final cylon will remain as insurance for interbreeding, and only the audience will know

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mkrufky:

lol

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iamlindoro_:

Another possibility I thought of is the 12th being a character that has already been killed

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mkrufky:

could be

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iamlindoro_:

Which would explain the "I'm so sorry" from Deanna

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mkrufky:

aaaaaah

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mkrufky:

i forgot about that!

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mkrufky:

about duella — if she is a cylon, her "tell" is when she made out with the president's sidekick in the miniseries out of the blue

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iamlindoro_:

Yeah

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mkrufky:

cylons seem 100,000 % hornier than humans

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iamlindoro_:

haha

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iamlindoro_:

god bless 'em

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mkrufky:

lol

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iamlindoro_:

The 5 have abviously lived among humans for a *long* time, so you would think she would have gotten that out of her system

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mkrufky:

i believe that their lowest-level programming has mostly to do with the "will to live" / "self-preservation" / "continuation of the species"

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mkrufky:

and those that realize that in order for life to be meaningful, it has to end

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mkrufky:

...

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mkrufky:

those will realize that interbreeding and reproduction is key to survival

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mkrufky:

and THAT is why they are 100,000%

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iamlindoro_:

I don't quite get the timeline on some of the final 5

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mkrufky:

not out of her system cuz she's only done it with those programmed to behave a certain way, not those that have their own intricacies

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mkrufky:

i agree --- xo seems wierd

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iamlindoro_:

Tigh has obviously been w/ the humans for a *long* time, at least 30 years... but some of the 5 are younger than 30, it appears

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mkrufky:

true

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mkrufky:

hmm

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iamlindoro_:

Actually, I think the original war is supposed to be *40* before the current series

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iamlindoro_:

So at least that long, and Tory/Anders are not 40

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mkrufky:

hmm

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kbidd:

I have a recording in progress, and it is scheduled from 9–10... i want to extend this to about 10:15 to make sure the end of the show doesnt get cut off... how do I change the end time of a currently recording show?

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mkrufky:

im confused about that now

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mkrufky:

those 5 supposedly came from the home of the 13th

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mkrufky:

kbidd: use mythweb

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jroysdon:

kbidd, I don't know about extending it, just schedule another recording for 10 to 10:15

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mkrufky:

in mythweb, you can add trailing minutes

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mkrufky:

then check the status page to ensure that the extension took

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mkrufky:

if it didnt take, then do what jroysdon said

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kbidd:

mkrufky, thanks, thats good to know for future reference... unfortiantly i dont have mythweb installed... i was reading in the release notes of an older version that it now supported extending in-progress recordings... couldn't find where it actualy said how though:P... I guess i'll just do what jroysdon suggested.

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mkrufky:

i think you can do it thru MANAGE RECORDINGS

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mkrufky:

i just use mythweb, thats why i recommended it

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mkrufky:

actually.... i think this would work:

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mkrufky:

go to the recording item in mythfrontend

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mkrufky:

you should be able to edit the recording settings from the menus

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mkrufky:

and add the trailing time that way

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mkrufky:

ok, got it

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kbidd:

im new to mythtv, so im still getting used to the menus... let me look

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mkrufky:

on the show, right button

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mkrufky:

recording options

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mkrufky:

edit recording schedule

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mkrufky:

scheduling options

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mkrufky:

end recording X minutes late

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mkrufky:

voila!

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kbidd:

Awesome

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mkrufky:

thats for mythtv 021

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kbidd:

they should make the menu more obvious that you use "right" to select more options... I was pressing "return" on the item, and it just opened the recording

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kbidd:

that worked though... thanks!

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mkrufky:

you're welcome :-)

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mkrufky:

ok... im gonna go watch LOST

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mkrufky:

( +captions)

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kbidd:

LOST is a great show btw!

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esotericisms:

anyone know why or how to get nuvexport to export mp4 properly for ipods? I have tried the mp4 option for ipod but itunes keeps saying that that file can't be played on this

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dustybin:

AAC = MP4

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dustybin:

try puting a .aac on the end

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esotericisms:

instead of mp4?

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dustybin:

yep

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esotericisms:

I convert movies with nero with mp4 extension and never have a problem :/ ... but I will try :)

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dustybin:

ok

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esotericisms:

dustybin: made no difference

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iamlindoro_:

If you're using Ubuntu and it's ffmpeg, there's a large possibility its brokenness could be coming into play here

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iamlindoro_:

s/it's/its/

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dustybin:

esotericisms: if your using high bitrates, export as a mp3 256kbps variable bitrate

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dustybin:

its been proven that there is no audio difference in quality with AAC at the same bitrate

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dustybin:

esotericisms: the word is, transparent

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dustybin:

between the uncompressed original and the compressed version

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esotericisms:

dustybin: all i ran it as is --mode=MP4 --nice=19 --cutlist --nodenoise --nodeinterlace --nomultipass

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esotericisms:

I then obviously specified a filename

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dustybin:

esotericisms: maybe try using lame

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esotericisms:

for the mode?

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dustybin:

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title . . . tening_Tests

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dustybin:

there is a lot of useful info on that wiki

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dustybin:

including lame modes

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esotericisms:

well but not for nuvexport :)

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esotericisms:

thanks for the help, I will tackle this tomorrow

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clever:

http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/

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brunes:

Hey – wondering if anyone here has any insight / knowledge onto why X.org would randomly comsume 100% cpu...

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brunes:

details on my thread post @ http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/334804

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monkeyBox:

And the winner... of American Idol 2008... is... David.......... (recording ends) . . . NOOOO!!!!

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monkeyBox:

my wife won't speak to me

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brunes:

lol

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monkeyBox:

I don't suppose anyone could post the last minute of the show??

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monkeyBox:

pleeeeeeaase?

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brunes:

it ws cook

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brunes:

Done :P

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monkeyBox:

I read it was archuletta?

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brunes:

no, cook

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brunes:

http://www.nationalpost.com/arts/story.html?id=530340

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monkeyBox:

still, http://www.huliq.com/59948/david-archuleta-wi . . . an-idol-2008 ??????

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brunes:

I saw it, it was cook

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monkeyBox:

wow

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monkeyBox:

my wife will be pleased....

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brunes:

that page you posted is just a prediction

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monkeyBox:

figured

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brunes:

"So that's my prediction. David A Wins This Year's American Idol 2008!"

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monkeyBox:

If anyone could get me that last minute or even 30 seconds, that would be awesome... She really wanted to see it, not just hear about it

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brunes:

i am sure itll be on youtube soon if it isnt already

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brunes:

why dont you just re-record the west feed?

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monkeyBox:

brunes, not sure how I could do that... I have cable

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brunes:

oh

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monkeyBox:

My wife doesn't know who won yet and she knows she's going to hear about it tomorrow at work :-(

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monkeyBox:

I actually told her it was archuletta... she'd be stoked if she watched it and saw it was david :)

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monkeyBox:

cook

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monkeyBox:

:-P

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monkeyBox:

After this she may force me to buy tivo

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monkeyBox:

I doubt it'll be on any video sites before the morning

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nflava:

im sure i can get the whole show

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brunes:

monkeyBox: Nah it will be posted within minutes if it isnt already

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nflava:

American.Idol.S07E42.HDTV.XviD-XOR

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nflava:

its out

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brunes:

Yep I am seeing it too

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brunes:

American.Idol.S07E42.HDTV.XviD-XOR

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nflava:

you want the last 2 rar files?

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brunes:

So does anyone else here have issues viewing the guide when watching HDTV ?

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nflava:

yes? no? on the rar files?

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iamlindoro_:

That kind of talk is offlimits here

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iamlindoro_:

take it somewhere they put up with filesharing talk

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nflava:

sorry

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nflava:

im new to here

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monkeyBox:

iamlindoro_, read up, you'll understand :)

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iamlindoro_:

monkeyBox: I've read, it doesn't make it any more permissible here

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brunes:

I would really liek to know why X.org eats 100% cpu, it makes no sense whatsoever to me

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monkeyBox:

alrighty then.......

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cafuego:

and stay out

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monkeyBox:

Heh.. so I read on a blog a ton of other ppl missed the last few seconds of AI where they announced the winner...

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monkeyBox:

basically anyone who used a DVR and wasn't watching live missed it

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** monkeyBox notes to self to set important shows to record a few minutes longer **

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mkrufky:

lol i wonder if that's what kbidd was recording

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wagner:

i didnt see the ending either

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wagner:

although i cant really claim to have missed it

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wagner:

theres some plugin that will automatically extend sports events

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leprechau:

who actually watches that show anyways?

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wagner:

i dont know where it pulls data from to know when to do that though

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leprechau:

i thought it was just teeniebopper girls

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leprechau:

and their unfortunate parents

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wagner:

its certainly unfortunate to be a parent not in control of the remote

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kbidd:

actually, i was recording it for my mom... im the unfortunant child that gets stuck watching it

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mkrufky:

suuuuuuuuuure

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kbidd:

well, if i was watching it, i wouldn't have to worry about making sure the ending recorded, now would it :)

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kbidd:

s/it/i

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mkrufky:

just pullin your leg

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mkrufky:

i hope you enjoyed the show

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mkrufky:

im goin to bed

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mkrufky:

have a good night

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kbidd:

night

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MukiEX:

What I'm looking to do : Record a show once a day in high-bitrate MPEG-2, and then re-encode it into optimized H.264 or Xvid for storage. The H.264 file would be as optimally compatible (Xbox 360, AppleTV) as I can manage. I don't mind scripting a post-record ffmpeg script if that's possible. Also, re-running ushare after the recording. Is this difficult on MythTV?

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MukiEX:

I don't need MythFrontEnd, the backend would be fine.

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MukiEX:

Also, is it possible to force a naming convention on a recorded show?

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GreyFoxx:

muk: You have no control over the initial filename, but after the recording finishes you can rename as you like

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GreyFoxx:

and you cxan use a userjob to reencode/rename as you like

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MukiEX:

Cool.

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MukiEX:

I don't even mind making links to the files.

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GreyFoxx:

myth also has it's own upnp server so ushare isn't really "required"

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MukiEX:

What about for the 360 tho? It has a semi-funky upnp profile I thought

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GreyFoxx:

The 360 does, but myth has worked with it since around xmas

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GreyFoxx:

whe n I inally had enough time of work to look at it heh

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MukiEX:

Oh nice~!

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MukiEX:

Okay, that sounds good. Other thing. Is it possible for MythTV to do a 2nd re-encode after a file's done recording, or do I have to do that "by hand"?

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GreyFoxx:

the 360 however only sees the "video" part of the upnp content. So you will have to make sure that mtyhvideo's directory sees the content

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GreyFoxx:

muki: You can define a userjob to happen after a recording stops. that script can do whatever you like

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MukiEX:

Can I have mythtv "re-scan" its recordings afterwards so it can detect that the old video was deleted?

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GreyFoxx:

no. I you want it removed from the recordings list you will need to remove the entry from the database

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MukiEX:

Ah.

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GreyFoxx:

delete from recorded where basename="filenameofrecording";

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MukiEX:

Ah, neat

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MukiEX:

And to record from cable I can just buy/build a lirc ir blaster and hook up the capture card to the cable box's video out, correct? =3

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GreyFoxx:

yup

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MukiEX:

Is that a good idea, btw? Using max-bitrate MPEG-2 to get a good source and then 2-pass encoding it with x264?

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DGnome:

MukiEX: What sort of video does your box output? MPEG2 or analog?

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MukiEX:

DGnome : Wow, it's a good thing Opera keeps track of new messages ;)

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MukiEX:

The one I'm looking at (eBay) is MPEG-2 hardware and uses the IVTV driver

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Pasteurized:

hi all

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v_meldrew is now known as justinh

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** justinh reads some scrollback. linuxmce ... sounds like faggotry in a box... heh **

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** justinh feels dirty downloading centos **

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iamlindoro:

What'd you go and do that for?

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justinh:

nothing miffyteevee related, don't worry

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justinh:

did a RHEL assessment yesterday – seems I might be in need of more experience in that field if I want to get out of my shitty job & into linux admin-ish stuff

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iamlindoro:

I just tried to come up with a clever Myth-distro-on-CentOS name and came up empty.

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justinh:

and the name Mythos is already taken – it's a Greek beer :P

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iamlindoro:

Sounds more delicious than Centos anyway

[08:37:00]

justinh:

Centos – the freshmaker!

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iamlindoro:

CentOS, now with 50% more Centaur urine.

[08:38:30]

justinh:

anyway, over 80% on a RHEL technician certification assessment isn't bad out of the box without cheating

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iamlindoro:

I would think that's pretty darn good

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fryfrog:

hey, that isn't bad

[08:39:19]

fryfrog:

i played around on the RHEL "shoudl you take this thing" and didn't do very well on the obscure options to commands

[08:39:23]

fryfrog:

i gave up

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fryfrog:

program writers didn't create "-h" and "--help" and "man <cmd>" for nothing!

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justinh:

educated guesswork helps in those kind of scenarios ;)

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iamlindoro:

I've never run Red Hat on any of my own machines... I think the only RPM distro I've ever actually run for a while was Mandrake

[08:40:47]

fryfrog:

yeah, i was just pissed when they are like "what does the -e option to ls do"

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justinh:

the stuff I fell over on was vi & vim.. and scripting

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fryfrog:

wtf? -e? :p

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fryfrog:

stuff like that

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iamlindoro:

usage: ls [-ABCFGHLPRSTWabcdefghiklmnopqrstuwx1]

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iamlindoro:

hahaha

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fryfrog:

is that real output?

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iamlindoro:

yes

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fryfrog:

wow

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fryfrog:

i mean, i know a lot of common command options

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iamlindoro:

-al has handled about 99.9% of everything I've ever needed :)

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fryfrog:

everyone knows -alhtr and stuff

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justinh:

you know what you need to know to get you through. nobody can knockanybody for that

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fryfrog:

who needs the other crazy shit for ls? :p

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fryfrog:

i setup a centos server for a friend the other day, it wasn't to bad

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justinh:

jesus man the exams are crazy expensive

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fryfrog:

i sort of wish i'd gone with debian or ubuntu-server for the familiarity though

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fryfrog:

i think for RHEL I'd take the classes and the exam, assuming it was paid for by an employer

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justinh:

and I know it's a vicious circle – no experience, no job.. no job, no experience. got to try to get out of this dump though

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iamlindoro:

That bad, huh?

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fryfrog:

justinh: how close are you to London?

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justinh:

I can afford to take a cut in pay if I get something nearer home

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justinh:

fryfrog: not far away enough!

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fryfrog:

so you are hates london?

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justinh:

nice place to visit for a day or two

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fryfrog:

but you'd not wanna work/live there?

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justinh:

nope

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justinh:

if anything I want to go back further NOrth

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fryfrog:

ah, oh well :)

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justinh:

be nearer family

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fryfrog:

our "team" at FB is in the process of hiring a manager who will then hire some linux people to do overnight monitoring in London

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fryfrog:

(well, day time your time, night ours)

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justinh:

working from home would be sweet.. but just a dream I think

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fryfrog:

sometimes i think it would be sweet, but sometimes i wonder if *I* could do it

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fryfrog:

also, funny story

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fryfrog:

my old high school ex gf recently got fired from a work from home tech support job

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fryfrog:

for being late

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fryfrog:

to a work from home job

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justinh:

heh

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fryfrog:

i don't think i'd get fired for that, but i'd have trouble finding motivation

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fryfrog:

plus there is so much free yummies at work, i'd be losing out :)

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justinh:

oh jees. LVM is on the RHEL syllabus

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fryfrog:

bastards!

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fryfrog:

so is ldap i think

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fryfrog:

i keep meaning to get some experience with that

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fryfrog:

i believe bind is also, not something i have a lot of experience with either

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justinh:

seems the default enterprise filesystem is ext3 too. heh

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directhe`:

depends on your vendor

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directhe`:

ext3 is default on red hat's installer (they've had a war with reiserfs use for years), but some vendors will sell you kit with a different FS used for preinstalls

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fryfrog:

why does rh hate reiserfs?

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iamlindoro:

That FS needs a name change in the worst way

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fryfrog:

(i was a bit surprised at the ext3 default of RHEL myself)

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fryfrog:

hahah

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fryfrog:

"hi, i murdered my wife FS" better? :)

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justinh:

guy at work found me a RHEL 'exam' ebook. I think I'll pass on it since it's writed in Engrish

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iamlindoro:

Probably mildly telling that he chose to name it after himself too

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iamlindoro:

I'll tell ya what we need. More Strider games.

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directhe`:

fryfrog, because suse funded development, going back a few years

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iamlindoro:

We've rebooted every other franchise, give me STRIDER

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justinh:

"Make secondary belongs the jeff and marion users"

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directhe`:

fryfrog, fr'example, some RH kernels lack the reiserfs module entirely, the others have debugging mode enabled and piped to /dev/null (in order to kill performance)

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fryfrog:

is reiserfs4 still going in dev? or did the loss of their leader kill it off

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fryfrog:

directhe`: ahahha, nice

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justinh:

"using usermod command we can make user belongs to different group"

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directhe`:

justinh, do not taunt happy fun ball!

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iamlindoro:

justinh: Probably only makes sense in the original klingon

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justinh:

fucking hell he found the lolcat RHEL training manual

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iamlindoro:

I can haz permissionz?

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justinh:

and it's WRONG

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directhe`:

invisible coredump!

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justinh:

create the directory /storage and make its group ownership 'sysusers'. no part of the answer says mkdir /storage

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justinh:

bin it

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justinh:

to think people pay money for that kind of stuff. fools & money.. fools & money

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iamlindoro:

Bah, have to vacate the hotel room in 20 minutes and haven't finished using up their internets yet

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iamlindoro:

And can't check in to the other place for four hours, damn it

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clever:

wifi?

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directhe`:

iamlindoro, i've stayed in a terrible hotel where (wired) net access was £20 a day – and the time periods for it were 6 hours different to checkin/checkout time

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clever:

lol

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clever:

one place in cleveland charged by the mac/day

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clever:

so if i changed to a 2nd pc(with a diff mac)

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clever:

i had to pay up a 2nd time

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iamlindoro:

the place I'm going is a 4 star hotel, might go by and see if they can squeeze me in a bit early

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directhe`:

as well as costing £119 a night with breakfast

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directhe`:

for a small room, in a hotel in an industrial estate

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directhe`:

oop norf

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** justinh predicts some wiresharking going on soon **

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directhe`:

oh, and the bar had 3 shitty factory beers and nothing better

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justinh:

que sera

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iamlindoro:

I figure it'll take me 30 minutes to walk over, I can sit on a bench somewhere for a bit, and around noon I might try them to see if they'll let me get in early

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iamlindoro:

yeah, the current place has wireless, but my battery is pretty worn out, won't last long

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clever:

i have an inverter

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clever:

12v->120v

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clever:

now i can run the laptop in the van all day long

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clever:

once or twice ive parked outside a hotel to 'borrow' the inet for 3mins

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iamlindoro:

Well, as I'm neither in my state, country, or continent, the car idea won't work

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clever:

lol

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clever:

theres also a 120 socket on the outside of some hotels

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clever:

and in hallways:p

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iamlindoro:

I think you'd be hard pressed to find 110/120 in the UK

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iamlindoro:

that said, I do of course have a plug adapter

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justinh:

not in scotland :P

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justinh:

careful you don't bump into DC mains up there though

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justinh:

I can't help my anti-scottishness btw – I was born thins way

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clever:

but if you can connect the laptop in the hotel room

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justinh:

*this

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clever:

you can connect it in the hallway:P

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clever:

assuming its wifi

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iamlindoro:

clever: I reckon they don't want me lurking about the hallways after I've checked out

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clever:

yeah

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iamlindoro:

Since it's a Bed and Breakfast

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clever:

might seem odd

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clever:

go do it at the new place then:P

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clever:

that you cant check into for another few hours

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iamlindoro:

We'll see

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clever:

or find a free internet cafee

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iamlindoro:

Hahah

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iamlindoro:

free internet cafe

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iamlindoro:

good one

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iamlindoro:

this isn't the US we're talking about

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clever:

lol

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clever:

i was thinking of canada:P

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justinh:

macdonalds all have free interwebbiebubbles too AFAIK

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justinh:

good luck finding power there though

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clever:

theres a few pizza places in canada with free wifi

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iamlindoro:

amusingly I've yet to see a Macdough here

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clever:

and pizza is something that actualy comes fresh so you have to wait:P

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justinh:

star***cks?

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clever:

and the wifi gives you something to do while you wait

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clever:

theres alot of those arround

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clever:

i'll check my airodump logs to see who i drove by

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iamlindoro:

I booked Indiana Jones tickets for tonight, will see if it's two hours of Harrison Ford is old jokes

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justinh:

then again plenty of offices have insecure wireless in town

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clever:

2420 00:0D:3A:6F:F0:D7 STARLING No data – WEP or WPA

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clever:

512 00:0F:66:36:F1:02 get your own internet bastard None (192.168.1.105)

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clever:

only thing matching *star*

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directhe`:

actually, plenty of pubs & cafes have free wifi

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justinh:

but be aware it's now a criminal offence to use other people's insecure wireless. never worked that one out. I'd have said fair game

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directhe`:

just not actual *internet cafes*

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clever:

162 00:17:C5:05:56:81 Boston Pizza None (0.0.0.0)

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iamlindoro:

OK, gotta check out, later on

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directhe`:

pubs! pubs have wifi!

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directhe`:

i hope he got that before killing his client

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clever:

lol

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justinh:

I used an Easy internet when I was in london last. £2 for two hours. not bad but I didn't want two hours

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directhe`:

i use pub wifi. or cafe wifi.

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justinh:

interesting sitting next to 419'ers & terrorists :)

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clever:

dont let them see your pw!

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clever:

288 00:13:A3:9B:56:81 5037654a7a584271217155307d No data – WEP or WPA

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clever:

289 00:0F:3D:5C:FB:06 DLink No data – WEP or WPA

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clever:

i wonder what that idiots key is?:P

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directhe`:

tee hee

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clever:

545 00:18:39:4C:62:30 Syph0r$_N37w0r|< WPA (0 handshake)

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clever:

602 00:16:B6:E6:89:98 SpaceBalls_the_router No data – WEP or WPA

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clever:

lol, that movie was fun

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fryfrog:

i should sniff some of the wireless around me, there are like 5 or 6 networks

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clever:

682 02:13:02:00:00:F2 Free Public WiFi None (0.0.0.0)

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clever:

i think its legal to 'steal' that one:P

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directhe`:

Free Public WiFi is a windows laptop

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clever:

lol

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justinh:

why the hell did the feds in the uk have to go spoil all the fun? illegal indeed. FAIR GAME

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clever:

i also have a ton of weird essid's

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clever:

that show up just way too often

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directhe`:

the way windows works, it tries to associate with the last SSID it used, and if it fails, it sets itself up in ad-hoc mode with the same SSID

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clever:

762 00:12:43:E0:26:70 orange No data – WEP or WPA

[09:29:18]

clever:

763 00:12:43:E0:0E:B2 orange13 No data – WEP or WPA

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clever:

754 00:13:A3:75:91:69 b1test00 No data – WEP or WPA

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directhe`:

so one laptop, ONCE, connected to "Free Public WiFi", and since then it's a viral meme between computers

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directhe`:

http://travel.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_ . . . e3554838.ece

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clever:

1314 00:11:95:FF:E0:45 Halifax Public Libraries None (0.0.0.0)

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clever:

1687 02:13:02:00:00:6D <DC>p2p None (0.0.0.0)

[09:31:18]

clever:

thats got non ascii chars in it!

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clever:

that may crash/confuse some wifi clients

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clever:

1740 00:13:46:EE:DF:2C Channel Five News Team No data – WEP or WPA

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clever:

:O

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clever:

1770 00:13:46:FF:DA:E8 Can't Touch This No data – WEP or WPA

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clever:

1755 00:11:95:2C:8C:C8 phat chance No data – WEP or WPA

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fryfrog:

okay, i think thats enough spam :p

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** directhe` touches **

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fryfrog:

are those their passwords?

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directhe`:

hm

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fryfrog:

what do you use to sniff that anyway?

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clever:

theres another free public, and ive also see many with emails as the essid

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clever:

i use airodump-ng

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clever:

when driving on any long trips i leave it running the entire time

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clever:

mostly i just catch 1–2 beacons before im out of range

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fryfrog:

ahahha

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fryfrog:

thats pretty cool :)

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fryfrog:

i think i'd need to get my ubuntu laptop working with wireless again to play with that

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** iamlindoro is a charming son of a bitch **

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iamlindoro:

Just got myself another hour here

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clever:

GET YOUR OWN INTERNET!

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clever:

lol

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fryfrog:

you were like "i'll come give you a naked back rub if i can have another hour baby"

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fryfrog:

and it was a dude? :)

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iamlindoro:

Sure, if by back you mean "wang."

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fryfrog:

hahha

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iamlindoro:

and by naked you mean "penetration"

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directhex:

"i'll come give you a penetration wang rub if i can have another hour baby"

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directhex:

?

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iamlindoro:

That's what I get for staying at the Happy Endings hotel and massage parlor.

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fryfrog:

ahha

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iamlindoro:

directhex: I see you know the place

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directhex:

anyway, the advantage to pub wifi is one may also find ale in pubs

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directhex:

or baguettes in cafes

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justinh:

bit early to start dri.. oh wait I remember he's in Scotland

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clever:

lol

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iamlindoro:

It's never too early

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directhex:

justinh, it's liquid bread. drink a pint, it's like eating toast!

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directhex:

and toast is a fine breakfast!

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clever:

its 6am

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clever:

i think its a bit early to go to bed:P

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clever:

but the sun is starting to hurt my eyes...

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iamlindoro:

It's only 6 AM if you're floating in the atlantic

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iamlindoro:

Or nailing a hot babe in Brazil

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clever:

6:38 am!

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clever:

nb canada:P

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iamlindoro:

You poor son of a bitch

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** directhex blames canada **

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directhex:

the tourist spots in cuba are full of bloody canadians

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directhex:

with their flapping heads so full of lies

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clever:

i do know 1 person online in the same timezone

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clever:

down in brazil

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iamlindoro:

If only they could get some of that Internet money

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iamlindoro:

I did mention Brazil

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justinh:

there are 2 kinds of canadians in my experience. nice ones I've yet to meet & seriously annoying ones who talk very loud all the time and say EH a lot

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clever:

eh?

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iamlindoro:

The hotel lady called me "a very polite lad" just then

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iamlindoro:

since I call everyone sir and ma'am

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iamlindoro:

haha

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iamlindoro:

If only they read #mythtv-users

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clever:

quick

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clever:

scan the hostmasks:P

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