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Saturday, May 17th, 2008, 00:06 UTC

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clever:

nicholas_: that query might help me with one of the things im trying to fix on my end

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bmead:

Has anyone received and started tinkering with their Hauppauge HD PVR 1212. Mine isn't due to be shipped until the end of May.

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bmead:

Cecil said the Hauppauge guys have written a linux driver, and that Mythtv support was expected for the HD PVR

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iamlindoro__:

None of them have shipped yet, The Hauppauge guys aren't writing the linux driver (although someone is) and yes, myth will have support.

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clever:

i was just thinking about something the other day

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clever:

with colinux

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bmead:

imlindoro Does that mean that the "end of may" shipments will also be delayed?

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clever:

how much work would it be to make a virtual v4l driver

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clever:

which lets colinux use a video device under windows(thru the windows driver)

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clever:

theres allready cofs which relays fs commands to the windows filesystem

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iamlindoro__:

bmead: No idea, you'd have to ask Hauppauge about it. Even the first ones were pushed back to, in Hauppauge's words, "mid month"

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iamlindoro__:

None shipped on May 1.

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clever:

and cobd which makes a blockdevice out of a windows file

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bmead:

imlindoro I just received an email from Hauppauge yesterday that said the "end of May" date looked good, so I will assume that only the mid May shippments were delayed. They said it had to do with the delivery of the plastic injection modelded enclosures.

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iamlindoro__:

bmead: I know what their e-mail said, my pre-order is among the very first, but hasn't even been charged.

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bmead:

imlindoro I hope you get your HD PVR very soon. I am not in the first group, but the second.

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iamlindoro__:

The longer they are delayed, the more mature the drivers and myth support will be when I get it. I know that the driver's writer intends to have it publicly available by the time the first ones arrive in people's hands.

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iamlindoro__:

Anyway, no real rush, I'll be out of town most of the rest of the month.

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bmead:

imlindoro I do want the drivers to be mature, and all of the bugs out. But I have been waiting about 2-years for a true HD PVR that gets ALL of the content. Not just the OVER AIR broadcast HD stuff.

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devicenull:

hey is there a free place to get the channel guides?

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jamesd:

in the u.s. no

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jamesd:

but $20 a year seems pretty reasonable to me.

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bmead:

devicenull The channel guide data used to be free, but people abused it for commercial gain, so now it is only about $20.00 per year

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devicenull:

yea, I used to run gbpvr with zap2it, but I couldnt find that info again

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reel:

I figured the survey money dried up too. We got only silly surveys like "Click Ok to renew". I always took that as a bad sign

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Lynet:

I'd be happy iif I had the option to pay $20 a year instead of scraping tv-guides from local newspaper websites. :-/

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bmead:

devicenull The new channel guide site "Schedules Direct" is built-in to the newer versions of MythTV. All you need to do is set up an account and pay the $20.00 per year

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devicenull:

bmead: yea I found that

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devicenull:

I didnt know what happened with zap2it labs until I just looked

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bmead:

devicenull Toward the end Zaptoit got really sloppy. The guide data had shorcuts and generic messages for the episode descriptions. Schedules Direct is much more complete and has more accurate content anyway.

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devicenull:

yea, I dont really mind paying

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reel:

$20 is cheap for the usefullness of the data in my opinion

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devicenull:

it was more, if I didn't have to pay I didn't want to

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reel:

when it came out and the price was $20 for 3 months, I think it was still cheap

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reel:

I could pay $10/mo to my cable company for the same functionality at a lower quality level

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devicenull:

nice, uverse is supported there as well

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devicenull:

now if only att would get around to bringing it here

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darkwizzard:

anyone here?

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devicenull:

it sucks that people abused the zap2it one

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ajh:

oh, those duplicate entry db errors have come back, and that's after nulling out the program table and letting it repopulate so it's a myth bug.

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Andui1:

ajh: still in oldprogram?

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ajh:

hrm, I'll check that.

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devicenull:

synergy is quite fun

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devicenull:

and useful

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devicenull:

ooh boy

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devicenull:

watch tv leads to a blank screen

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ajh:

yeah, I had synergy across 4 different arches at one point :)

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devicenull:

seems to break lirc though

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devicenull:

hm,m

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devicenull:

2008-05–16 21:03:04.024 NVR(/dev/video0): Won't work with the streaming interface, falling back

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devicenull:

/dev/video0 is a pvr-150

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devicenull:

I cant actually find the frontend logs

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devicenull:

oh I broke it

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devicenull:

hmm

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devicenull:

yea, my mistake

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J-e-f-f-A:

ajh: What do you mean about synergy/lirc – I'm using them and they seem to behave so far...

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devicenull:

well

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devicenull:

I get static now

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J-e-f-f-A:

ajh: oops, sorry, combined your comment and devicenull's... oops, that's what I get for 'catching up' too fast... ;-)

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devicenull:

okay..

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devicenull:

how do I actually get video?

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devicenull:

hmm

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devicenull:

I get some channels, but most of them are static

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devicenull:

this is odd

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darkwizzard:

do i have to symlink every time it boots up?

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darkwizzard:

or just once

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pteague:

i'm having a weird issue with my frontend... i can't get it to stop trying to connect to 127.0.0.1 & i'm not sure why... where's output from mythfrontend – http://paste2.org/p/28720

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sardiskan:

I'm having audio issues, the volume is VERY low...and the volume controls do not affect the volume at all

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darkwizzard:

pteague what u tring to do connect it to a another frontend

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a1fa:

hi ;P

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a1fa:

i have an issue with playback.. it kind of pauses for a ms.

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a1fa:

i had the same issue on my mythtv box on ide hard-drive.. easy fix was to enable DMA

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a1fa:

now I am running SATA

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Solarbaby:

is anyone else using a Plextor ConvertX 402u? Im in need of some advice

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pteague:

i'm trying to get my frontend to connect to a backend

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Solarbaby:

im trying to give my backend a tuner hehe

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pteague:

sorry, that was an answer to darkwizzard's question :)

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Solarbaby:

no worries mate.. we're still on the same boat

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Solarbaby:

I wanna avoid buying another USB TV card if I can

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Solarbaby:

as is I barely used this one

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Lexridge:

what's up dagmar?

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darkwizzard:

well pteague u know localhost

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darkwizzard:

well goto settings and see what it says

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Lexridge:

xris: are you around this evening?

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pteague:

localhost is 127.0.0.1 ... that's normal

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pteague:

or did you mean somewhere other than /etc/hosts ?

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Lexridge:

Does anyone know why my Hauppage 1600 card has a MAC address? Is it useful?

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a1fa:

anybody using streamzap?

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darkwizzard:

yeah

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darkwizzard:

but what is it in the settings menu

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pteague:

darkwizzard> i'm guessing you mean in the mythtv frontend?

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darkwizzard:

yes

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darkwizzard:

if u looked at ur own log u would of seen the answer

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darkwizzard:

You probably should modify the Master Server

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darkwizzard:

settings in the setup program and set the

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darkwizzard:

proper IP address

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pteague:

everything i'm seeing in the 2 config files for the frontend using the correct computer name for the backend, there's no mention of localhost or 127.0.0.1

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darkwizzard:

no

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darkwizzard:

start frontend

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darkwizzard:

then goto settings

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darkwizzard:

then gernal

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pteague:

utilities/setup -> there's music tools, video manager, edit keys, & setup... i'm guessing setup

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pteague:

-> general

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darkwizzard:

yes

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darkwizzard:

now u see host name

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pteague:

host name: delta – that's the correct name for backend

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darkwizzard:

no

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darkwizzard:

u put in your local host

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darkwizzard:

or it ip

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darkwizzard:

i have mine setup as 192.

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darkwizzard:

since i use a different pc for the frontend

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Lexridge:

darkwizzard: 192. by itself will work? is that the same thing as 255.0.0.0 ?

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pteague:

"The host name or IP address of the machine hosting the database. This information is required."...

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pteague:

or do you mean that the frontend is supposed to have it's own database?

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darkwizzard:

no

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darkwizzard:

listen pteague

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darkwizzard:

were is mythconverg database hosted is it on same pc

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xris:

Lexridge: was out for dinner, but back now for at least awhile

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darkwizzard:

lexridge yes

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pteague:

mythconverg is on my backend which is a different box...

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darkwizzard:

well u know the ip

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darkwizzard:

put it ip in it

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Lexridge:

darkwizzard: thanks...I didn't realize you could do that.

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darkwizzard:

lo

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darkwizzard:

it works here

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pteague:

ok, i put the ip address in – 192.168.1.251 – exited out of mythfrontend, started mythfrontend & i still get can't connect to server, are you sure it's running... exiting out & back to terminal i continue to get the same "2008-05–16 21:55:29.129 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)"

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Lexridge:

darkwizzard: I just put in the full IP. I would think allowing a netmask of 255.0.0.0 would lead to security issues.

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Lexridge:

Hi xris! :) Good to see ya.

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darkwizzard:

well u can do it full ip like this 192.168*.*

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darkwizzard:

well pteague on ur backend did u allow other ips to connect

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Lexridge:

darkwizzard: don't mean to interfer with what you are explaining, but for a newbie, I should think he should enter his full IP, just to keep things simple.

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darkwizzard:

yeah

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pteague:

i'm just new to mythtv... i'm running about 4 non-myth boxen atm

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darkwizzard:

but he gota allow backend to grant access to other ip

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Lexridge:

pteague: okay, sorry for my interruptions then :/

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pteague:

dang, it wants me to shut the server down before letting me even check the gui mythtv backend setup & it's currently recording... almost over

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darkwizzard:

well wait till it over

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pteague:

just finished

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darkwizzard:

u must allow backend to grant access to ur frontend

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darkwizzard:

mysql -u root -p mythconverg

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darkwizzard:

grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"192.168.1.%" identified by "mythtv";

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darkwizzard:

flush privileges;

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darkwizzard:

quit

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darkwizzard:

like that

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darkwizzard:

u see

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Lexridge:

pteague: dunno what dist you're using, but install mysql-administrator. It will make this sort of thing much easier.

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darkwizzard:

if not ur backend will reject ur frontend

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pteague:

mythbuntu

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Lexridge:

pteague: you should be able to apt-get it....or whatever pkg manager mythbuntu uses.

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pteague:

i've got remote access to mysql, just mythtv is having issues... what should i be looking for in the way of a setting?

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pteague:

i've got phpmyadmin installed & was trolling through the db earlier

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darkwizzard:

also do this

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darkwizzard:

sudo nano -w /etc/mysql/my.cnf and take out bind to 127.0.0.1

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Lexridge:

xris: just curious, have you ever worked in the broadcast industry?

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pteague:

actually, oddly enough... i do have settings in there for my frontend

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xris:

Lexridge: nothing aside from sitting nearby once during a friend's college-radio show

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darkwizzard:

now lexridge

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darkwizzard:

have u gotten mythmusic to write a audio cd

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darkwizzard:

?

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Lexridge:

darkwizzard: what?

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darkwizzard:

have u goten mythmusic to write a audio cd?

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Lexridge:

xris: I figured you had, since you have such knowledge of it. :)

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pteague:

host address backend setup... security pin (required) – wth?

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darkwizzard:

i left my blank

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xris:

Lexridge: I learned a LOT from helping to create SD

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Lexridge:

xris: I would love to introduce you to the traffic side of it. Traffic, as you probably know, is the backend of all the programming, logging, and commercial insertion.

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Lexridge:

xris: We actually used to use a linux based backend, running pervasive 2000 db. Unforch, we have moved to a win2003 VCI solution. Makes my job a bit harder.

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xris:

I think it'd be a blast to work in broadcast.. but most of my professional experience is with other systems (mostly e-commerce and sysadmin), and pays better than anything techie I could get with my skills (e.g. would have to break 6 figures to peak my interest)

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Lexridge:

xris: and it's literally 10 times more expensive!!!

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xris:

heh, ick.

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pteague:

ok, where do i need to enable remote connections?

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xris:

pteague: the PIN is set in mythtv-setup on the backend

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Lexridge:

xris: will will never break 6 figures in local tv. Networks.....not a problem. :) I just never wanted to move out of WV. Love it here too much.

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xris:

Lexridge: yeah, I'm a west coast lifer... lived up and down this coast (north and south america), and it would take a LOT to get me to move away from here, too... too muggy out your way. :)

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xris:

though I suppose WV is better than on the coast itself

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xris:

pteague: are you talking remote connections as in control of a remote frontend, or just getting a remote frontend to connect to your backend server?

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Lexridge:

xris: yea, I understand. I was in Colorado's western slope at a sister station a few years ago. The dry air made my nose bleed. LOL.

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pteague:

getting a remote frontend to connect to my backend

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Lexridge:

xris: That sister station burned to ground a few months ago.....thank god!!!! :)

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xris:

colorado is a whole other issue. high altitude, too.

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xris:

pteague: firewall settings, PIN settings, and then the proper grant setup in mysql itself

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Lexridge:

xris: and dry dry dry....I was there in Feb, and it would snow overnight a little, then my noon, it was 60 degrees....every day for two weeks.

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pteague:

mythtv@% is already set

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Lexridge:

pteague: If you are using a client computer to connect, first do a nmap IP to the server, and make sure you can actually see the open port of mysql.

[03:16:45]

Lexridge:

otherwise, you will never be able to connect.

[03:17:54]

Lexridge:

pteageu: Also, this is something I experienced....for each allowed IP in mysql, you must also allow the database access for that connection.

[03:18:15]

Lexridge:

edit: for each allowed IP ALLOWED in mysql

[03:18:19]

xris:

pteague: first, test mysql commandline access from the remote host

[03:18:30]

pteague:

nmap reports ssh, http, rpcbind, nfs, & mysql

[03:18:45]

Lexridge:

pteague: good. then do what xris suggested.

[03:19:28]

xris:

pteague: you'll probably need 6543->6546 open for mythtv. I forget what the two higher ports do, but I think they're also needed (they're relatively new)

[03:19:40]

pteague:

the mysql connection is not the issue... using the 'test connection' button in client config setup connects to mysql no problem, i can connect via console no problem

[03:19:41]

xris:

might need something else for upnp, too.. that should be in the docs.

[03:20:01]

Lexridge:

xris: however, and I ran into this, that connection from x.x.x.x has to have mythconverg database access. Just added the connection does not do it completely.

[03:20:38]

Lexridge:

the user mythtv can log in, but still does not have access to the database

[03:20:39]

xris:

Lexridge: yeah, you need to have db access as well as the open ports

[03:20:52]

Lexridge:

yea

[03:20:59]

darkwizzard:

well can anyone tell me if CD burning function is in mythmusic

[03:21:12]

xris:

that's usually handled in the grant statement.. GRANT ALL ON mythconverg.* TO mythtv@"192.%" IDENTIFIED BY "some-password";

[03:21:14]

darkwizzard:

i can find mp3 but not audio cd

[03:21:43]

xris:

darkwizzard: sorry, no clue.. I don't think I've burnt an audio CD in like 8 years. ipod -> car

[03:21:47]

Lexridge:

darkwizzard: I still have not done that successfully. It might be there, but I've also not made it work.........yet.

[03:22:08]

darkwizzard:

i got mp3 to write

[03:22:14]

darkwizzard:

but not audio cd

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darkwizzard:

it is disabled

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pteague:

what should i use for pin? just any password?

[03:23:32]

xris:

pteague: I personally don't use one. but I'd recommend numbers if you are, since they're easier to type (not a big deal since the frontend should cache it after the first use)

[03:23:32]

Lexridge:

pteague. Set the PIN in the mythtv-settings.......from the server. You cannot set it from the client.

[03:24:36]

Lexridge:

pteague: BTW, I'm a newb to mythtv also. Take my advice with a grain of salt. ;)

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xris:

afk for awhile

[03:25:58]

Lexridge:

pteague: I'm using a very beta card that not all features are supported on (hvr-1600). I'm sure as the drivers get better, my mythtv experience will also get better.

[03:28:02]

mikeones:

anyone know what a poster size should be for mythvideo?

[03:28:16]

pteague:

ok, i've set the pin on the server... where do i set it on the client?

[03:28:20]

Lexridge:

xris: one he is shell connected to the mysql, pteague should probably do some type of select statement to see if he has access to the data. Not being a mysql expert, I'm not sure what that command should be. Ideas?

[03:28:46]

pteague:

SELECT * FROM sometable

[03:29:01]

Lexridge:

have you done that?

[03:29:16]

Lexridge:

did you see the mythconverg table?

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pteague:

actually... USE mythconverg; SELECT * FROM keybindings;

[03:31:08]

Lexridge:

did you see the table doing this? If not, you still have a database access issue.

[03:31:52]

Lexridge:

Sorry, I'm mostly a PostgreSQL user. MySQL blinds me ;)

[03:32:10]

pteague:

could even `SELECT * FROM keybindings WHERE hostname="iota"` ... iota is my frontend box & there's 242 keys for iota

[03:32:59]

Lexridge:

you've lost me there....like I said.........

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pteague:

http://paste2.org/p/28754

[03:34:17]

Lexridge:

since I do not know mysql syntax, I resorted to using mysql-administrator. It made it easy for me to make it right for client connections.

[03:34:18]

pteague:

so mythtv is now available, but i'm still not connecting to it...

[03:34:59]

pteague:

i still like phpmyadmin – nice as browser is usually already installed :)

[03:35:04]

Lexridge:

get away from hostnames, and try using only IPs. That worked for me.

[03:35:34]

pteague:

yeah, i've got the ip in the mythfrontend stuff

[03:35:54]

pteague:

so where do i need to put the pin in the frontend?

[03:36:11]

Lexridge:

it will ask you to type it in when needed.

[03:36:34]

Lexridge:

if you mean setting the PIN, you need to run mythtv-settings.

[03:37:01]

Lexridge:

if you mean setting the PIN, you need to run mythtv-setup, rather.

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Lexridge:

...from the server.

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pteague:

i've set the pin on the backend... how do i set the pin on the frontend so it can actually connect to the backend?

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pteague:

ok, forget it... i set the pin on the server to 0000 so any client can connect

[03:41:24]

Lexridge:

you don't need to set the pin on the frontend. if you run mythtv-settings on the frontend, if should ask you for a PIN number for access.

[03:41:31]

pteague:

but i'm still getting "2008-05–16 22:40:30.310 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)"

[03:42:04]

Lexridge:

pteague: have you tried disabling iptables from running on the backend?

[03:43:06]

Lexridge:

wait: I see the problem perhaps......you client is trying to connect to 127.0.0.1. You need to change that IP to that of your server.

[03:43:09]

pteague:

these are the ports currently open on my backend – http://paste2.org/p/28754

[03:43:39]

Lexridge:

are you running mythfrontend from your server, or do you have a client machine you attempting this on?

[03:45:08]

Lexridge:

first, run mythtv-setup from the server, and set all ip address from 127.0.0.1 to the machine's actual IP.

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Lexridge:

then, on the client machine, you should use THAT IP to connect to. If you use 127.0.0.1 on the client, it will never connect to anything other than localhost...which is what you do not want.

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metalac:

hey guys, how do I download channel icons in 0.21? i tried in mythtv-setup but it's grayed out

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pteague:

i've got 2 different boxes... delta on 192.168.1.251 & iota on 192.168.1.244 ... delta is my mythtv backend & iota is my mythtv frontend

[03:49:31]

pteague:

here's a new console output log from mythfrontend – http://paste2.org/p/28756

[03:49:39]

Lexridge:

replace all instances of 127.0.0.1 on both machines to 192.168.1.251

[03:49:47]

Lexridge:

that should fix your issues.

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pteague:

um yeah... that's what i'm trying to explain... here's my current config files on my frontend – http://paste2.org/p/28757

[03:51:49]

Lexridge:

then, make sure you allow access to mysql from 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0.

[03:52:04]

pteague:

please, if you can tell me where the hell the 127.0.0.1 is coming from i'll be happy

[03:53:01]

Lexridge:

is this from the server, or the client?

[03:53:24]

pteague:

read the word right before the link above :)

[03:53:47]

Lexridge:

okay, lets look at the backend then

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metalac:

anyone knows how to add channel icons to myth 0.21?

[03:57:58]

pteague:

oh brother... redundancy...

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Lexridge:

pteague: what? same thing?

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pteague:

great... so now i'm getting – "The server uses network protocol version 40, but this client only understands version 31..."

[03:58:48]

Lexridge:

pteague: do all your versions match?

[03:59:01]

pteague:

um, i think so

[03:59:16]

Lexridge:

it certainly does not sound like it.

[03:59:29]

pteague:

but at least i'm finally getting a different error... that's progress :)

[03:59:34]

Lexridge:

you might post that error to google and see what you come up with.

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Lexridge:

pteague: that is progress :)

[04:01:38]

pteague:

must be package differences between gutsy & hardy which puts it in mythbuntu's court :)

[04:02:37]

Lexridge:

can't help you with that. I have used redhat stuff (now fedora) since 1998....wow, ten years!!!! lol

[04:03:22]

Lexridge:

presently using fedora core 6 on my main machine, and fedora 8 on my mythtv server.

[04:04:04]

Lexridge:

I know that doenst help much......just rambling. ;)

[04:04:26]

pteague:

i was actually hoping to run the client in a window rather than taking over the whole desktop so i could watch while doing other things :)

[04:04:57]

pteague:

or at least shove it to my secondary monitor

[04:05:35]

Lexridge:

ptaegue: on my client machine, in my garage, I have the SV output from my nvidia card connected to a 27" tv, while the DVI is connected to the 19" computer monitor. I can still use my puter while watching tv. :)

[04:06:40]

Lexridge:

Since my TV does not have SV inputs, I simply combined the Y and C of the SV and soldered that to a composite RCA connector.

[04:06:44]

Lexridge:

works like a charm!

[04:07:39]

Lexridge:

my main problem is I cannot get lirc to transmit.....anything!

[04:07:56]

pteague:

hehe

[04:08:44]

Lexridge:

I dont need the receiving fucntion of lirc, and that works.....I just cannot transmit....it's a bummer, but I'll get over it. ;)

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Solarbaby:

I miss Fedora

[04:18:14]

Solarbaby:

its been years

[04:18:44]

Solarbaby:

Fedora was my very first Linux operating system.. back with Redhat

[04:18:59]

Solarbaby:

very early redhat even

[04:19:41]

Lexridge:

Solarbaby: I started using redhat at version 5.2, and have never looked back.

[04:20:13]

Solarbaby:

Yeah I'd say that was around where I started.. though I had gotten extremely pissed off with the flakey upgrades so I stopped using it

[04:20:15]

Solarbaby:

long time ago

[04:20:37]

Solarbaby:

bout 1 1/2 years into fedora was when I couldn't stand all the things that had been broken

[04:21:13]

Lexridge:

It didn't get really stable (usable) until redhat 8 or better yet, 9. Fedora fscked things up with 1 thru 3, but finally got it together.

[04:21:45]

Solarbaby:

I'm glad to hear its good now.. I might end up playing with that again when I find some time

[04:21:49]

Solarbaby:

Ubuntu has been pretty nice though

[04:21:53]

Lexridge:

Fedora Core 6 is awesome, just installed FC8 on my mythtv server, and so far, so good.

[04:22:17]

pteague:

i started with 7.2? & at some point i had some hardware compatibility issues & switched to mandrake... my only problem with both was major upgrades – i always had several programs that weren't in the new release & there went all the rpm dependencies

[04:22:24]

Lexridge:

I'll wait for fedora 9 until all the bugs are worked out. ;)

[04:22:52]

Solarbaby:

do you think Fedora would go very well on an older Dell Latitude laptop.. bout a 1 ghz processor and 512 ram

[04:23:10]

Lexridge:

pteague: same here. I ended up compiling many modules to make various hardware work with early fedora versions.

[04:23:34]

Solarbaby:

I sorta miss rpm I still type it sometimes

[04:23:42]

Solarbaby:

and its been several years

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Lexridge:

Solarbaby. Just try the live CD and see for yourself. That should be enought to tell you.

[04:23:53]

Solarbaby:

right on

[04:24:02]

pteague:

a coworker told me about debian & i ended up switching shortly before mandrake became mandriva... been debian based ever since

[04:24:31]

Lexridge:

I still use a debian based os on my sharp zaurus. Old, but still useful.

[04:25:15]

Lexridge:

it's great for detecting wireless networks :)

[04:25:28]

Solarbaby:

thats pretty hip

[04:25:57]

Solarbaby:

does your sharp zaurus also have a expansion slot so you can run a gps off it?

[04:26:57]

Lexridge:

Yea, it has both a CF slot and a SD slot. I think there are come CF GPS adaptors available.

[04:27:24]

Lexridge:

It's a sharp zaurus 5500.

[04:27:28]

Solarbaby:

yeah.. I think so.. since you have both slots you have enough to store your programs too that rocks

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Solarbaby:

I always eyed those

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Lexridge:

old, but still useful only because it runs linux. I want to compile a 2.6.x kernel for it eventually.

[04:28:14]

Solarbaby:

I ended up buying a Navman ICN510 and even though it can't run linux I did piece togeher an operating system and put a few none linux gps systems into it

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Lexridge:

..and that worked well?

[04:29:04]

Solarbaby:

yeah.. its a pocket pc, that thinks its a gps.. so my goal was to turn it into a pocket pc that runs gps

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Solarbaby:

if that makes sense

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Lexridge:

I understand completely. very cool!

[04:29:35]

Solarbaby:

:)

[04:29:56]

Solarbaby:

what I like about it is that the GPS is built into it..

[04:30:05]

Lexridge:

I don't even own a gps presently, but will eventually.

[04:30:19]

Solarbaby:

I can't live with out GPS.. Im horrible with directions

[04:30:31]

Lexridge:

I've been spending most of my money lately on gasoline. :(

[04:31:20]

Solarbaby:

2010 will be the year you will have the option to buy a fully Electric car

[04:31:24]

Lexridge:

....and as much rain as we've been having in the northeastern US, I'm spending way too much on gas for the lawn mowers. I mow weekly about 4 acres.....UGH!!!

[04:31:56]

nibbler:

Solarbaby, and then electricity prices go up

[04:31:58]

Lexridge:

I've been doing hydrogen experiments myself. Producing quite a lot with my experiments.

[04:32:25]

Solarbaby:

nibbler: yeah the solar panels wont exactly give you all the juice you'll need

[04:32:41]

Lexridge:

I've been going after the HHO gas, with is internal combustion engine safe, as opposed to pure hydrogen.

[04:32:43]

Solarbaby:

nibbler: we can deal with the electricity though.. theres lots of ways to generate that

[04:32:46]

nibbler:

plus, producing a solar panel does damage to the environment.

[04:33:22]

Solarbaby:

nibbler: never thought of that

[04:33:34]

Lexridge:

as does producing hydrogen fuel cells. Do you realize it takes 6 coal truck loads to produce ONE hyrogen fuel cell?

[04:33:48]

Solarbaby:

ack really?

[04:33:50]

Lexridge:

hydrogen that is

[04:33:54]

nibbler:

lol

[04:34:01]

Solarbaby:

im missing out on the recent future tech episodes

[04:34:05]

nibbler:

only clean alternative is air-powered cars

[04:34:08]

Lexridge:

yea, really....HFC are not safe for the enviroment.

[04:34:09]

nibbler:

however

[04:34:21]

nibbler:

the plastic they use causes harm when it's manufactured

[04:34:22]

nibbler:

XD

[04:34:29]

Solarbaby:

I still like the idea of powering busses and larger trucks with compressed air

[04:34:59]

darkwizzard:

has anyone goten mythmusic to write a audio cd

[04:35:18]

Lexridge:

Natural Gas is probably the best short term answser, but hydrogen is certainly the long term answser.

[04:35:53]

nibbler:

i pay $28 to fill my tank

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nibbler:

and i get 400mi on one tank

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Solarbaby:

wow

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nibbler:

:)

[04:36:18]

Lexridge:

I paid $72 the last time...a few days ago!!!!

[04:36:25]

Solarbaby:

I just put $40 into my Honda Civic.. 2 years ago I would have put $19 or so into it

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Lexridge:

I get 300mi per tank

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Solarbaby:

makes me sick.. our entire country is being destroyed right in front of our eyes every day

[04:37:30]

califdreas:

did any of you guys ever fill up a car anywhere in europe?

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nibbler:

mostly my fill-ups are free.

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Lexridge:

No politics here, but something is definitely going to break soon in the USA.

[04:37:57]

califdreas:

the gas prices here are still a joke compared to europe

[04:37:58]

Solarbaby:

Yup.. I agree. .its just with the rise of fuel we're all doomed

[04:38:16]

nibbler:

come on.

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Lexridge:

califdreas: I've heard the European prices are coming down, since the Euro is worth far more than the dollar.

[04:38:23]

nibbler:

it's not like we're running out of water or anything

[04:38:43]

nibbler:

oil isn't a commodity

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califdreas:

Lexridge: well, not that i am aware of.

[04:39:27]

Solarbaby:

I'd be happy to switch to a 1 seat car thats all electric and gets 300 miles per charge

[04:39:40]

pteague:

is it possible to run the mythfrontend without being in x ?

[04:40:02]

Solarbaby:

I doubt it

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Lexridge:

the oil companies in the middle east are only accepting euros now, and NOT the US dollar. this is something you never hear about on the news.....but it's true. That tale tells a lot.

[04:40:19]

califdreas:

and I think it is simply ridiculous to hear people complaining and basically getting ready for civil unrest because of gas prices.

[04:40:21]

Solarbaby:

how would you run it with out a graphical envirment?

[04:40:40]

pteague:

i guess what i mean is in mythbuntu it uses xfce... i'm wondering if i can just skip that & go straight to the frontend on top of x

[04:40:50]

Solarbaby:

Lexridge: thats really interesting

[04:41:24]

Lexridge:

solarbaby: google for it....it is true! and disturbing as well.

[04:41:36]

Solarbaby:

califdreas: its silly people are dieing over it

[04:42:09]

Solarbaby:

pteague: as far as I know that is not an option

[04:42:10]

pteague:

then again i guess the reason it's really really slow is it's running off the cd & isn't installed yet

[04:42:16]

Lexridge:

Solarbaby: It all comes down to that our dollar is no longer backed by anything....gold for instance.....Our dollar is worth about 17 cents on the oil market.

[04:42:25]

califdreas:

Solarbaby: probably the same people i see every morning when i walk my daughter to school. In their trucks and suv's

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Solarbaby:

Lexridge: crazy

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Lexridge:

look it up.....please don't take my word for it.

[04:43:06]

Solarbaby:

Lexridge: I sure will

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nibbler:

people here have started breaking into garages at night to siphon gas

[04:43:45]

pteague:

heh, i forgot to check how much ram this laptop has

[04:44:01]

Lexridge:

This country is in for it......and it's sad, because I love my country, but it is going to hell in a hand basket.

[04:44:15]

Solarbaby:

pretty much

[04:44:24]

Solarbaby:

maybe its best I dont live in a big city anymore

[04:44:52]

Lexridge:

Do you realize that we borrow money from china, to pay for our weak dollar, in order to pay for the war in iraq?

[04:44:55]

pteague:

lol, 125mb

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Solarbaby:

Lexridge: things like that I sleep better not knowing

[04:45:16]

Lexridge:

pteague: OUCH!!!! You need RAM man!!!

[04:45:50]

Lexridge:

solarbaby: me too, but everyone in this country needs to know this....and you will not find it on the network news channels/

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Solarbaby:

Lexridge: I can just see them sending out 4 billion ninja's to collect their money

[04:45:56]

pteague:

it's an old laptop... i've just been using it as a backup file & test server... was thinking i might see if it'd work as a frontend ;)

[04:46:39]

Lexridge:

pteague: It should work fine, with more RAM ;)

[04:47:08]

Lexridge:

solarbaby: yup, I've often wondered how they would collect their payback with a worthless dollar too.

[04:47:26]

pteague:

how much swap space do you think i should put on this?

[04:48:02]

Lexridge:

pteague: 1–2 gigs should be plenty, but if you make it your first partition, it will be much faster.

[04:48:14]

Solarbaby:

alright so I was going to use the Plextor ConvertX 402u with Mythtv, however Ubuntu 8.04 doesn't have any support for it anymore with out doing some kernel stuff that I dont understand enough at this point.. should I just replace it with a different usb or pcmicia recorder that works better anyways? any suggestions?

[04:48:33]

pteague:

currently 24mb /boot, 1003mb swap, & 11038mb /

[04:49:16]

Lexridge:

I never worry about a /boot partition.....just never seemed to be an advantage to it.....to me at least.

[04:49:36]

Lexridge:

otherwise, you should be good!

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pteague:

yeah, it was an older debian

[04:50:32]

** sutula is pulling his hair out...why can't my mythfrontend connect to the mythbackend on another machine? **

[04:51:04]

sutula:

It seems to autodiscover it, at least based on ~/.mythtv/config.xml

[04:51:18]

Lexridge:

Linux strives to be more and more like Winders, but that is not necessarly a bad thing. Windows does have a FEW good things, but Linux just rolls all over it, regardless of how many partitions you have. :)

[04:51:27]

sutula:

Is there a debugging guide or something?

[04:52:19]

Lexridge:

sutula: what are you trying to debug?

[04:52:42]

sutula:

mythfrontend can't connect to the backend on a different machine

[04:53:13]

sutula:

2008-05–16 22:22:45.161 Connecting to backend server: mythtv:6543 (try 1 of 5)

[04:53:13]

sutula:

2008-05–16 22:22:45.162 Connection timed out.

[04:53:13]

sutula:

You probably should modify the Master Server

[04:53:13]

sutula:

settings in the setup program and set the

[04:53:13]

sutula:

proper IP address.

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Lexridge:

See the line that says: "You probably should modify......proper IP address"? Make sure you have nothing set to 127.0.0.1...wow....dejuvue :)

[04:54:43]

pteague:

hehe

[04:54:44]

sutula:

The backend seems to be listening properly:

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sutula:

tcp 0 0 *:6543 *:* LISTEN

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pteague:

sutula> yes, but do you have 127.0.0.1 set in your backend?

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sutula:

I don't have a 127.0.0.1 in my backend...if I did, it would show in the netstat output, as far as I know

[04:55:35]

Lexridge:

The thing about MythTV, is does default to 127.0.0.1. Make sure you get rid of that in favor of an actual IP address (ie. 192.168.1.x)

[04:56:03]

sutula:

Now, I'm using a hostname, not an IP address in the backend configs, if that's a problem

[04:56:05]

pteague:

afaict frontend queries the backend as to what it should connect to & if your backend is telling it 127.0.0.1 or a domain name the frontend can't resolve then you'll run into problems

[04:56:24]

Lexridge:

Unless you are running a DNS, the hostname may be useless.

[04:56:35]

pteague:

can frontend resolve mythtv correctly?

[04:56:37]

sutula:

Is there a way to get more debug output out of frontend, to see what's happening?

[04:56:47]

sutula:

I do have a DNS running locally

[04:56:49]

iamlindoro__:

sutula: Make sure mythtv is associated with an actual IP in /etc/hosts on the fronend, and check /etc/mysql/my.cnf on the backend to make sure bind-address is set to the real IP and not localhost or 127.0.0.1

[04:57:07]

iamlindoro__:

More likely the latter

[04:57:33]

sutula:

I've done all that...earlier output from frontend says it successfully connected to mysql (on the backend's machine)

[04:58:09]

sutula:

I can switch to real IP's, but is that really necessary, if my DNS is resolving all that?

[04:58:31]

sutula:

I wonder if the problem is CNAME's...my backend has several aliases in the DNS

[04:58:59]

sutula:

Maybe when it asks it's own hostname, it gets something different from what I've been telling it

[04:59:03]

pteague:

seems people are having better success with static ip addresses

[04:59:25]

Lexridge:

Solarbaby: Check out overunity.com if you want to see some real progress in alternate power sources.

[04:59:38]

pteague:

the other issue is you need the pin setup on the backend (something else i missed)

[04:59:40]

sutula:

Yes, but a lot less supportable...of course, the amount of hair on my floor indicates I'm no more supportable :)

[05:00:05]

sutula:

pteague: I set it to 0000, to disable that

[05:00:18]

sutula:

Do I need a "real pin"?

[05:00:41]

Lexridge:

sutula: can you PING your mythtv server from your client by hostname?

[05:00:47]

pteague:

hehe, i've been messing with this for over 24 hours... my initial problem was ide & sata drives were not being detected in the correct order & so grub couldn't figure out what to boot

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sutula:

Yes

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pteague:

sutula> no, 0000 will work

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pteague:

oh joy... this laptop is having a problem detecting the network card

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Lexridge:

pteague: ugh, that is a problem

[05:02:42]

Lexridge:

what kernel are you using?

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sutula:

A fresh install of .21 still creates an /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt file, but I saw somewhere it's not used, right?

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Lexridge:

solarbaby: did you get that last post to you?

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Andui1:

sutula: It may not be used, by the frontend, if the UPnP setup worked.

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Solarbaby:

Lexridge: sorry I was away.. looking at the backlogs now

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Lexridge:

solarbaby: np, watching a movie myself.

[05:22:16]

Solarbaby:

:)

[05:22:23]

Solarbaby:

I've been drinking and smoking cigerettes

[05:22:35]

Solarbaby:

that whole battle with Lirc really hurt.. glad I won

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Lexridge:

Solarbaby, ah man! LAst night my band was practicing for a gig tomorrow (saturday) night, and he fscking dropped......I mean literally dropped....I freaked out and thought he was dead!! I turn white and damn near called 911, until he said, "I'm okay now" Holy sh*t....that was a trip.

[05:24:57]

Lexridge:

the drummer.....I left that out....sorry

[05:25:31]

Solarbaby:

damn!

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Solarbaby:

that wasn't too cool

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hadees:

has anyone done anything like slingbox or sagetv placeshifting but watching it with the mythfrontend on a laptop?

[05:26:14]

Solarbaby:

I've done that

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hadees:

Solarbaby, how did you set it up? just connected to the backend?

[05:26:38]

hadees:

or copied the files over?

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Solarbaby:

Yup.. from the Livecd even

[05:27:03]

Solarbaby:

it works very well

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hadees:

i would figure you need to transcode it

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Lexridge:

goodnite all. Getting late here. Been a long fscking week with elections and all, and I have to build porch stairs in the morning....ugh....l8r

[05:32:35]

Solarbaby:

G'night Lexridge

[05:33:00]

Lexridge:

cya man. Check out that site I published earlier.

[05:33:05]

pteague:

i need to get my magical recordificating button working

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Solarbaby:

been reading it

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Solarbaby:

its kewl stuff

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Lexridge:

I thought you'd think so. gnite all

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pcglue:

After upgrading to hardy, my recordings and liveTV doesn't have sound anymore. Where do I start troubleshooting this?

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t0ny-p40:

pcglue, make sure your recording device is set to record on the channel your tuner is hooked upto

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Solarbaby:

what recording device is highly recommendable for a laptop?

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loops:

Is there an easy way to make Myth forget all the episodes it recorded for a particular show, (so that they will be recorded again)

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pcglue:

How do I check that the line in from my PVR-350 is not muted?

[07:30:09]

pcglue:

I get video, but no sound when I do "cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg"

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xris:

pcglue: tried playing it back on another machine?

[07:50:46]

pcglue:

xris, yes

[07:51:04]

pcglue:

I actually figured how to tell if line in is muted, and it's not

[07:51:15]

xris:

what kind of connection are you using for input? composite or rf?

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pcglue:

composite

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xris:

and you have the audio connected to the audio line-in on the 350, too?

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pcglue:

it was working when I was using gutsy, sound stopped recording when I upgraded to hardy

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pcglue:

yes, it's connected

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xris:

odd. sounds like maybe a driver upgrade / driver option may have changed

[07:52:43]

pcglue:

yeah, i don't know what though

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xris:

might have to check with the ivtv-dev team

[07:53:30]

pcglue:

do you know if they're on IRC?

[07:53:57]

pcglue:

oh, yes, i see their channel

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xris:

they're not usually very talkative, though.

[07:56:20]

xris:

sometimes you can find people her during the day (US time) who know more, too

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pcglue:

I'll try their mailing list too, that has a lot of activity

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pcglue:

thanks xris

[08:00:10]

xris:

mythtv-users mailing list might have info, too

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Pasteurized:

morning all!

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k-man:

is there a way to watch a video with subtitles in mythvideo

[08:07:35]

k-man:

?

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xris:

k-man: yeah. it plays dvds just fine.

[08:08:06]

xris:

and any dvd you rip should include its subtitles.

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k-man:

its an .avi and the subtitles are in an slt file

[08:08:31]

k-man:

srt i mean

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xris:

if you wanted to play *illegally* downloaded videos with accompanying subtitle files, you wouldn't be talking about it here.... but I know that mythvideo supports at least one of those kind of files (the kind that's stored in plain text, not images), and you can turn it on with one of the menu options during playback

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k-man:

thanks for the moral lecture

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xris:

k-man: channel policy. we don't condone illegal-in-the-US stuff in this channel.

[08:10:27]

k-man:

xris, i simply asked about subtitles

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xris:

and you got your answer.

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k-man:

you are the one assuming its illigal

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k-man:

and lecturing me about it

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xris:

yup. and I'm going to venture a guess that my assumption is correct, since if you had ripped the video yourself with mythvideo, it wouldn't have that kind of subtitle file.

[08:11:40]

xris:

anyway, I'm off to sleep. :)

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Pasteurized:

I cant have image downloaded from IMDB for my films, neither than if I try to add some in ~/.mythtv/MythVideo :( Any clue ?

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Pasteurized:

and I have downloaded the latest imdb.pl from the wiki

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justinh:

Pasteurized: are you sure you've set the path for poster images to be stored? it's set on the same page as the video storage path

[08:42:14]

justinh:

the user you run mythfrontend as must have write permission on that path too

[08:44:02]

justinh:

btw you should also look at log output from mythfrontend to see if the problem is something else – you may just have a missing perl component

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Pasteurized:

ok, thanks a lot, i'll have a look

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nicholas_:

Is there a database design document or similar, that I've not been able to find? I'd like to know how the tables relate.

[11:23:04]

justinh:

http://www.cuymedia.net/mythtv-trunk/group__db__schema.html

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justinh:

the best info you're gonna get I'm afraid

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nicholas_:

ok, thanks :-)

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nicholas_:

I hadn't seen that yet, so it's useful

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justinh:

unless there's anything in the wiki....

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justinh:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Database_Schema is old

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pteague:

anybody know what the 'menu' key is on a keyboard in the mythfrontend ?

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rod_:

pteague – unless you have configured your system for something different, the 'menu' key is (drum roll please) 'm'.

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pteague:

thanks, that works :)

[12:27:38]

pteague:

this is so cool... this is better than seeing movie pictures on a computer screen! oh wait... =)

[12:29:37]

pteague:

er, *moving* pictures

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mzb_d800:

but wait, there's more! ;)

[12:34:25]

mzb_d800:

eg: callerid is pretty cool

[12:35:07]

mzb_d800:

or changing playback speed

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nicholas_:

On ITV in the UK sometimes films are split into two, with the news inbetween. If these end up as two recordings, can I join them together again?

[12:39:22]

mzb_d800:

avidemux

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nicholas_:

that would join the mpeg files; but how do I tell myth about that?

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mzb_d800:

delete the second one and replace the first with the joined file

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nicholas_:

would I have to re-run some tool? I think one of the database tables contains seek information?

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mzb_d800:

yes

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rod_:

Or, 'cat mpeg_file2 >> mpeg_file1' then run a lossless transcode to rebuild the seek table. Then delete mpeg_file2.

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nicholas_:

ok, a mythtranscode would do it. Thanks :-)

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justinh:

nicholas_: or just run mythcommflag on the resulting file

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justinh:

mythcommflag --help gives you options

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pteague:

what's an easy way to figure out if my remote control is actually working?

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adante:

pteague: depending on the device, can try catting the device file

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adante:

or irw

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pteague:

it's the remote from my hauppauge pvr-500

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rod_:

pteague – 'irw' in a terminal wil show key presses from your remote. if 'irw' doesn't see the key presses then mythfrontend won't either.

[13:35:29]

pteague:

i'm wondering if it's a problem with my usb :(

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rod_:

Start at the start, if your remote uses a USB reciever, check what 'lsusb' shows before and after connecting the reciever, get it working (see irw) outside mythtv. If it doesn't work outside mythtv, it won't work inside mythtv.

[13:39:24]

pteague:

lsusb – "Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000"

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pteague:

irw "connect: Connection refused"

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clever:

irw connects to lircd

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clever:

lircd then connects to the usb port with the right driver(userspace i suspect)

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pteague:

oh crap... is there a way to check & see if it's usb 1 or 2?

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rod_:

Have you configured "/etc/lircd.conf" for your remote ? Does 'lsusb' show anything different when your remote reciever is connect / disconnected ?

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clever:

something like an ir reiceiver bearly needs any bandwidth

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clever:

no need to make it 2.0

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pteague:

/etc/lircd.conf – include /usr/share/lirc/remotes/hauppauge/lircd.conf.hauppauge

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pteague:

ok, there we go... i got something different on lsusb now

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rob515:

Has anyone had any success watching livetv over firewire from a SA4250HD STB?

[13:49:31]

pteague:

now the red light is coming on on the receiver, but irw doesn't seem to be getting anything... hmm...

[13:49:53]

rob515:

The strange thing is that manual recording works over the firewire but live tv will not.

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rod_:

I don't have a PVR-500, so I can only assume the lircd.conf.hauppauge that you used for /etc/lircd.conf is correct for you. If 'irw' doesn't show anything then you cannot expect mythtv or any other application to work with you unconfigured remote control.

[13:53:23]

pteague:

do i need to specify a port or something for irw ?

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rod_:

My notes on setting up my remote control are at two places, the first gets it working, the second gets it setup for mythfrontend, it may or may not help you.

[13:54:06]

rod_:

http://users.on.net/~emerson/mythtv/mdk/post.html#remote

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rod_:

http://users.on.net/~emerson/mythtv/myth/conf.html#remote

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dR0PS:

anyone has exoerience with connecting xbox360 to mythtv?

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pteague:

ah... thanks for your 2 links... seing DEVICE=/dev/hiddev0 made me start looking at other things in /dev/ ... using cat /dev/lirc0 & pressing buttons on remote gave me a bunch of garbage

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GreyFoxx:

drop: I have

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GreyFoxx:

pretty much the only time my xbox getsturned on is to test upnp connectivity to myth heh

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dR0PS:

so do you have some ressources for this task?

[14:01:50]

dR0PS:

the search will not find my mythtv

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GreyFoxx:

Drops: No docs

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rob515:

Has anyone had any success watching livetv over firewire? I know that my stb is sending video because a manual recording works has anyone experienced this?

[14:03:10]

GreyFoxx:

The main thing to remember is that if you want to have your backend reachable make sure in mythtv-setup you told it that the backends IP was the external IP of the box and not just 127.0.0.1

[14:03:34]

GreyFoxx:

127.0.0.1 would cause upnp detection from any client to fail

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dR0PS:

you mean the external ip of the server ?

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GreyFoxx:

drop: yes

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GreyFoxx:

in mythtv-setup on the backend you tell it what it`s IP is that is should bind too

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GreyFoxx:

by default I think it`s set to localhost

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GreyFoxx:

but if you want it to be used by external upnp clients or frontends you need to change it to the external IP of the box

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dR0PS:

yes, i've just corrected this

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dR0PS:

>to 10.10.0.1

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dR0PS:

which is my local ip

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kdub:

that aint your local ip

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kdub:

unless you are weird

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rob515:

Has anyone been successful in watching livetv over firewire from a SA4250hd STB? I believe that my configuration is working correctly as i can record from the STB manually and it works great its just the live tv that does not.

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GreyFoxx:

kh: Why notÉ

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GreyFoxx:

That`s a valid private IP

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dR0PS:

sure it is ;)

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kdub:

really?

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GreyFoxx:

yes

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kdub:

i thought inly the 192.168 crap was

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GreyFoxx:

192.168.x.x is just one of the private blocks

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GreyFoxx:

no

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kdub:

neat

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GreyFoxx:

10.x.x.x

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brejc8:

the 10.x.x.x is nother free block

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GreyFoxx:

172.16.somethingsomething as well

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GreyFoxx:

not all of the 172.16 block, but part of it

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dR0PS:

is it correct just to click on Media Center to let the search go on or are there other options to set on xbox' side

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kdub:

why on earth doesnt everyone use 10 then?

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kdub:

its you know, less numbers

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GreyFoxx:

kdu: 10 tends to be used on very large private networks, 192`s on small (basically home users or small offices)

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dR0PS:

coz noone use class A for home use ;)...except me

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kdub:

i see

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GreyFoxx:

drop: No, just go to Videos

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GreyFoxx:

Media Center only works with MCE

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dR0PS:

but how do i add a "Computer" to the available list

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rob515:

Has anyone been successful in watching livetv over firewire from a SA4250hd STB? I believe that my configuration is working correctly as i can record from the STB manually and it works great its just the live tv that does not.

[14:16:57]

GreyFoxx:

drops: Mine just appears in the list. I assume you are running the most recent update from last december É

[14:18:07]

dR0PS:

so is this incompytible then?

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GreyFoxx:

That depends. What version of myth, and have you gotten the latest xbox update from December

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rob515:

hello

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xoritor:

hello

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xoritor:

i just put mythtv back in place last night after a few months (2 or 3) without it

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xoritor:

updated it to the latest release first though

[14:21:04]

xoritor:

i just have to say i forgot how nice it is

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dR0PS:

i use mythtv 0.21_p17100

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xoritor:

even my wife was thrilled to have it back... she was the one screaming for having it back

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dR0PS:

and latest xbox360 version

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dR0PS:

•dR0PS• 2.0.6690.0

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dR0PS:

2.0.6690.0

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[14:24:28]

bob2600:

i have manual recording working over 1394 but not livetv how do i fix that?

[14:24:41]

pteague:

lsusb seems to list my receiver... if i `cat /dev/lirc0` & start pushing buttons on my remote i get a bunch of garbage on my screen (assuming this means it's receiving)... however i can't seem to get irw to recognize anything & `irw /dev/lirc0` states "connect: Connection refused"

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dR0PS:

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6543 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 119 381201 1759/mythbackend

[14:26:01]

dR0PS:

tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6544 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 119 381195 1759/mythbackend

[14:26:01]

dR0PS:

udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:6549 0.0.0.0:* 119 381197 1759/mythbackend

[14:26:01]

dR0PS:

udp 0 0 255.255.255.255:1900 0.0.0.0:* 119 381199 1759/mythbackend

[14:26:03]

dR0PS:

udp 0 0 239.255.255.250:1900 0.0.0.0:* 119 381198 1759/mythbackend

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dR0PS:

is this correct for xb360 use?

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GreyFoxx:

drops those should be fine

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GreyFoxx:

did you restart mythbackend after making your mythtv-setuip changes ?

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dR0PS:

yes

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GreyFoxx:

k

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GreyFoxx:

other than running the backend with -v upnp to see fi there are reported errors when you launch videos under the xbox

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dR0PS:

alreada set to 'all' ;)

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dR0PS:

already set to 'all' ;)

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GreyFoxx:

all is too much and would drown out the upnp errors if any

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bob2600:

i have manual recording working over 1394 but not livetv how do i fix that?

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GreyFoxx:

drops use pastebin.ca

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bob2600:

i have manual recording working over 1394 but not livetv how do i fix that?

[14:37:29]

bob2600:

i have manual recording working over 1394 but not livetv how do i fix that?

[14:37:30]

bob2600:

i have manual recording working over 1394 but not livetv how do i fix that?

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kdub:

did you search the wiki and the mailing list?

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bob2600:

yeah for hours but still no avail

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kdub:

what does it do when you try and watch livetv

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kdub:

http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . wire;#291625

[14:45:05]

bob2600:

it displays a black screen for about a second and reverts to the mythtv frontend screen

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kdub:

what is the starting channel set as in mythtv-setup?

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kdub:

is it a channel with encryption?

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bob2600:

no

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bob2600:

i dont think so because i can manually record off of it fine

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Peit|home:

I've built mythtv from SVN (both revision 17338), one(BE) shows up as "Library API : 0.21.20080304–1" The other(FE) "Library API: 0.22.20080512–2", the frontend won't attempt to connect until i've udpated the schema, but then the backend won't start, am i missing something in the ./configure magic (no special options for either)

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justinh:

Peit|home: oops! you definitely have different versions going on there – maybe old packages left lying around on an old prefix – /usr vs /usr/local – "which mythfrontend" would establish facts for you

[14:49:21]

justinh:

Peit|home: and I *seriously* wouldn't recommend running trunk right now unless you're aiming to be a valuable reporter of bugs

[14:49:44]

Peit|home:

oh, has it broken badly

[14:50:28]

Peit|home:

everything was working fine until i upgraded the FE, (ubuntu) to hardy heron and it then upgraded mythtv over the old nice version)

[14:50:48]

justinh:

you'd know if you read the -dev and -commits mailing lists – which you rightly should if you want to use trunk

[14:51:09]

pteague:

irw gets it's info from lircd right?

[14:51:18]

justinh:

ahh those age old words.. everything was working fine until I upgraded. heheheh

[14:51:24]

justinh:

pteague: yup

[14:52:40]

pteague:

i seem to be lacking the correct driver for my receiver :( any idea where i can find a list of them?

[14:52:53]

justinh:

lirc.org

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justinh:

and in lirc's own compile-time config menu

[14:53:10]

Peit|home:

justinh: I don't see anything with a quick scan of the message titles

[14:54:03]

Peit|home:

is 0.21 tagged in SVN? (i'm not really familiar with how to find that out)

[14:55:51]

Peit|home:

nm http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ has it

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Peit|home:

lets hope i can downgrade the db schema

[14:58:03]

Peit|home:

is there a list of schema <->revsion mappings?

[14:58:42]

pteague:

i'm guessing /dev/lirc0 would be the same as /dev/lirc that mode2 is expecting?

[14:59:36]

pteague:

yep, looks like it

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pteague:

i just used irrecord to go through & record all the buttons on my remote... so it is picking up things... but irw doesn't acknowledge that anything is happening

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AcTiVaTe:

pteague: What receiver you using?

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pteague:

tses-ir01 is the model number on it... got it with my hauppauge pvr-500

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AcTiVaTe:

what does lspci return for id ?

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pteague:

it's a usb receiver... lsusb returns "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1784:0001"

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pj_:

how do i install once i have downloaded?

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pteague:

burn the iso to cd & then boot from the cd

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pj_:

kl thanks

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pteague:

AcTiVaTe> or did you want info from the pvr-500?

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AcTiVaTe:

Nope, that's the one I wanted ;)

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pteague:

k, figured so :)

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pteague:

& the remote is an RC6 ... it's got a smaller number i've not seen on a couple pages i've looked at from google so far – rrs9002–86xxf ... not sure if it effects the receiver though

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AcTiVaTe:

irw does not respond?

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pteague:

nope, but if i cat the /dev/lirc0 & push buttons on the remote it spews garbage... i also ran through irrecord, set all the buttons, restarted lircd, ran irw & still nothing

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AcTiVaTe:

What module does it use?

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AcTiVaTe:

Guessing it should be mceusb2

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pteague:

not sure... that's 1 of the things i've been messing around with recently

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pteague:

is that supposed to be the REMOTE_DRIVER ?

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pteague:

or REMOTE_MODULES

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i_is_cat:

anyone know how to increase the speed of a cursor when using a remote as the mouse?

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AcTiVaTe:

pteague: Not familiar with the file you are referring to.

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pteague:

/etc/lirc/hardware.conf ... it seems mythbuntu uses it to fill in variables with lircd

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AcTiVaTe:

pteague: DRIVER should be default I think then, MODULES should be mceusb2 or lirc_mceusb2 then

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AcTiVaTe:

pteague: Got an RC6 config file?

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pteague:

nope... only thing that even looks remotely close is "AverMedia TV card (TVCapture TVPhone) (card 6)"... as it's the only thing with "6" in it other than 62 or 16 or some such

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pteague:

i wonder if the "windows media center remotes (new version Philips et al.)" might work

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AcTiVaTe:

pteague: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Harmony_880_Remote the lircd.conf they show here is ok for RC6

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pteague:

hah! there we go! awesome :)

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AcTiVaTe:

=)

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pteague:

thank you so much... that last gave me an idea for a preconfigured 1 in the list & it seems to work... that windows media center remote

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AcTiVaTe:

Most MCE remotes are RC5 or RC6

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AcTiVaTe:

Almost all currently sold bundles are RC6

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pteague:

guess i need to restart mythfrontend to get it to work

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pteague:

does mythfrontend require gdm or can it run on xdm?

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Anduin:

It requires neither

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nicholas_:

is there anyone (that must be hard to find, because I haven't yet!) that collects .lircrc files? Loads of people must have the mceusb remote and use mplayer, for example

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Anduin:

some basic window manager is needed (or you will have focus issues)

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kdub:

nicholas_, the lirc website has a ton of them dont they?

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pteague:

i figured xdm might use less resources than gdm & same with icewm using less than xfce

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Lynet:

Anduin: So startx to a .xinitrc that does noting else than start mythfrontend is not recommended?

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Anduin:

Lynet: if you never launch an external app it is possibly you will not notice, but yes, some window manager should be used

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Anduin:

pteague: xdm/gdm are just login interfaces, they don't actually explicitly mean a window/desktop manager

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Anduin:

I use gdm to automatically log in and run twm & mythfrontend (for example)

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pteague:

ah, ok

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nicholas_:

kdub: seems to have the mceusb config, but not to then use specific apps with it

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pteague:

is twm pretty small?

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Anduin:

Yes, though there are smaller ones

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pteague:

any idea how it compares to icewm ?

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Anduin:

Nope, been some time since I looked, easy enough to try both though. Currently twm is using about 6MB of memory, 2 of which are resident.

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pteague:

what are you using to check mem size? top ?

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Anduin:

pteague: top will show you, I used ps v though

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Anduin:

(I find top more time consuming to look at things other than cpu usage)

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pteague:

ok, apparently gdm ignored my .xinitrc & .xsession files

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pteague:

what do i need to do to get twm to launch an xterm &/or mythfrontend on start?

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Dagmar:

`man twm`

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tcpsyn:

I just tried to fast forward a video, and the video just stopped. It's an ATSC recording... others seem to rew/fw fine... I can't find anything in the output, even if it's verbose..

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tcpsyn:

any ideas?

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tcpsyn:

the only thing different about this recording is the length.

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tcpsyn:

it's a little over 3 hrs.

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tcpsyn:

where most of the stuff is only 1

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nicholas_:

I've a program set to record (by title) all showings on all channels, and to find duplicates by subtitle and description. there is no subtitle, and the description matches (both channels are the same xmltvid! they are on different sources though). It still wants to record both channels and get the show twice. It's the first time I've seen this problem

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Dibblah:

Subtitle then description is probably more what you want.

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Dibblah:

(description is ignored when the subtitle doesn't exist using that duplicate matching method)

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Dibblah:

Argh. That was fuzzy.

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Dibblah:

Subtitle AND description must both match for that rule to match.

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nicholas_:

the show has a null subtitle, and obviously the same description (same listing feed). So I should use subtitle then description, rather than AND?

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nicholas_:

"description" and "subtitle then description" both still leave it having the same show recorded on two channels at once

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nicholas_:

oh, sorry. No – "subtitle then description" does seem better

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nicholas_:

and I reloaded mythweb too quick for my test. "description" and "subtitle then description" seem good. So it's just "subtitle and description" that isn't effective for this show. Is that always the case when there is no subtitle?

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Dibblah:

Yes.

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Tim1:

hi all, just got me self a xbmc. I'm now configuring it :)

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Tim1:

I seem to have a process called mysqld_safe its 60 cpu

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nwidger:

is there anyway to have mythvideo automatically download imdb information for all videos?

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bobgill_:

I'm trying to make a binding for my remote to exit mythfrontend at any point.. but can't find the bind. I have ESC (goes back one menu until exits) bound but is there a keybinding to cold exit at any point?

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tallmtt:

I am able to have mythtv flag commercials without producing an errror in the job queue – how do I skip commercials though?

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tallmtt:

I guess – what is the keystroke when a commercial comes on?

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HunterSThompson:

anyone know how I can make playback always be in progressive scan mode in Hardy?

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HunterSThompson:

'cause I sure don't...

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pteague:

ok, this is all kinds of fun... got everything working on the monitor & go to hook up the tv out & ... nothing...

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HunterSThompson:

lcd tv?

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pteague:

no, it's an old rca tv out

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HunterSThompson:

I'm afraid I haven't a clue then...

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HunterSThompson:

nice sounding rig though.

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pteague:

what's weird is as long as i'm on a console it shows up... as soon as i use x, it doesn't do anything

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HunterSThompson:

very strange

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pteague:

VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x (rev 64)

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jarle:

I am just trying to get an overview over the large mythtv source tree, where can I find more info on m_playbackinfo?

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pteague:

& i can see the 'compaq' logo on the tv screen while the box is booting up, but nothing after that

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pteague:

got it!!!!! i had to switch the video mode on the laptop & it's behaving weirdly... i have to have a different video mode set depending on whether i have the lid open or closed... good grief

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HunterSThompson:

bravo...you are having better luck than I am

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rsc-232:

http://registration.hauppauge.com/webstore/ha . . . oduct=hd_pvr

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rsc-232:

niceee

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rsc-232:

Record up to 1080i

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rsc-232:

from Component Video outpout on Cable or Sat Box

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iamlindoro__:

Old news, most of us preordered months ago ;)

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rsc-232:

i know

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rsc-232:

but that thing is awesome

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pteague:

i'm watching raiders of the lost ark on my new setup :)

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HunterSThompson:

shhh....it's starting

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pteague:

i'm getting a blue edge along the right & bottom sides from desktop background... i'm gonna have to figure out how to set up tmw's window crap

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HunterSThompson:

so now I can't get rid of the taskbar at the top of the screen...mythtv isn't running in a window either

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pteague:

which window manager?

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HunterSThompson:

xu

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HunterSThompson:

I fixed it

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pteague:

cool

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HunterSThompson:

still haven't figured out how to get progressive scan all the time...to my knowledge there is no option for that in any of the settings menus

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HunterSThompson:

seems like there should be though

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pteague:

doh, indy said "stop"... & the picture stopped :(

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HunterSThompson:

HA!

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|DuReX|:

when I try to play a xvid avi file, It shows first screen

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|DuReX|:

but doesn't play then somehow :s

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|DuReX|:

any id ?

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rsc-232:

iamlindoro_: so does the hd-pvr work on mythtv?

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pteague:

it was too hot... i put a blown out power supply under it as an extra heat sink between the laptop & the tv... also gives more circulation space

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iamlindoro__:

rsc-232: The HD-PVR isn't even out yet. Yes, it will work with Myth, ideally by the time they are in the hands of the first people.

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rsc-232:

i help with LinuxMCE

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rsc-232:

iamlindoro_: it was supposed to be shipping but they halted shipment

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rsc-232:

last minute case redesign

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iamlindoro__:

rsc-232: I'm aware of the details.

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pteague:

Anduin> how do you get it to autoload mythfrontend ?

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Anduin:

pteague: I don't do it in twm, just a mythfrontend & exec twm (not actually that minimal but enough)

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pteague:

what do you have that in? .xsession ? i can't seem to get anything to autoload in twm behind gdm

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Dagmar:

Of course not.

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Dagmar:

GDM has nothing to do with twm.

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Dagmar:

You don't even need GDM.

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Dagmar:

It might help if you were to read the twm man page

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Anduin:

pteague: I had just done it in ~/.Xclients, I now use a different session name in ~/.dmrc

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Anduin:

and yes, you don't need gdm, though I do, on occasion, use those three seconds to no start myth

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Anduin:

er not

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pteague:

oh... any idea how to shift the mythfrontend window over? i'm getting a background blue line along the right & bottom edges cause i turned the title & border off i think

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pteague:

NoTitle & BorderWidth 3

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Anduin:

pteague: why a boarder width?

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Anduin:

border even

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pteague:

that was what was in the config file i downloaded... otherwise i didn't have a config & had no idea how to set up the file

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pteague:

http://xwinman.org/rc/twmrc-thomas

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Anduin:

NoTitle { "mythfrontend" }\nBorderWidth 0

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Dagmar:

I'm thinking it's more likely that perpetual xv misalignment

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Anduin:

also possible

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pteague:

xv misalignment?

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pteague:

xvmc?

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Dagmar:

You should *really* familiarize yourself with the documentation on the wiki.

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Dagmar:

It coveres pretty much, um, *everything* you've been asking about.

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tallmtt:

I am able to have mythtv flag commercials without producing an errror in the job queue – how do I skip commercials though?

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iamlindoro__:

http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Commflagging

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tallmtt:

thanks – I don't know why I couldn't find that before

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nwidger:

i have mythtv installed, but there's no mythconverg database in mysql. is there an easy way to tell mythtv to go and initialize all that stuff?

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nwidger:

like create the database, add the mythtv user to it, etc

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nwidger:

because right now mythtv-setup is complaining that it cant connect to the database and i cant configure anything

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Dagmar:

It's righ there in the installation docs.

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nwidger:

can you give me a link?

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nwidger:

nevermind

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