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[00:00:29] | Dagmar: | w. |
[00:00:31] | Dagmar: | Wow. |
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[00:00:43] | Dagmar: | 16000 wound sound bloody awful |
[00:01:06] | kormoc: | Dagmar, it was an upgrade, the one before that was 11.5k mono :P |
[00:01:25] | kormoc: | I had the cheapest of the cheap back then |
[00:01:28] | Fjodor: | I think I managed to quash that specific error message once by setting it to 48000, but I still got the zombie thing... It goes like this: watch tv -> black screen for a number of seconds -> loss of connection to backend. Backend still exists as zombie process, only killable by reboot |
[00:01:55] | kormoc: | Fjodor, you compiled it or is it from a package? |
[00:02:27] | Fjodor: | But 2 secs, I'll try 48000 and pastebin the log of the (expected) failure... It's installed via apt on Ubuntu 8.04 |
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[00:03:09] | Dagmar: | When *was* that tho? |
[00:03:22] | kormoc: | 2002ish |
[00:03:23] | Dagmar: | Was that a SoundBlaster Pro or something? |
[00:03:33] | Dagmar: | Okay, that's messed up |
[00:03:41] | kormoc: | nah, it was a tv card, a bttv 8x8 |
[00:03:43] | Fjodor: | kormoc: Btw., would this be the setting from mythtv-setup of from recording profiles in frontend? |
[00:03:44] | Dagmar: | I was thinking more along the lines of 1993 |
[00:03:55] | kormoc: | Fjodor, mythtv-setup |
[00:04:11] | Fjodor: | kormoc: Ok, thanks ;-) |
[00:04:13] | kormoc: | framegrabbers just got cheaper and cheaper as time went on |
[00:05:07] | famicom: | Dagmar que? |
[00:05:11] | famicom: | i dunno |
[00:05:37] | famicom: | stupid h.264 made my media experience just as horrible as it was back in 1997 |
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[00:06:47] | famicom: | not to mention that it showed me how friggin AWFULL the current state of linux drives is |
[00:06:56] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
[00:07:07] | kormoc: | linux drives? |
[00:08:31] | famicom: | drivers |
[00:08:37] | famicom: | missed a quck r |
[00:08:47] | kormoc: | I don't have issues *shrugs* |
[00:08:49] | Dagmar: | h264 isn't a driver, it's a codec |
[00:09:30] | kormoc: | I'd venture to say there's never been a better time then now for linux drivers to be honest |
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[00:10:25] | Fjodor: | kormoc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9881/ It did seem to get rid of the rate error, but syptoms are still the same. Perhaps it's the "strange error flushing buffer ..."? |
[00:10:46] | famicom: | dagar I know |
[00:10:48] | famicom: | uygh |
[00:10:52] | famicom: | Dagmar i know |
[00:10:52] | Dibblah: | "stupid", "horrible", "broken",... Do you ever have anything nice to say about things, famicom? |
[00:10:57] | Fjodor: | s/syptoms/symptoms |
[00:11:07] | famicom: | But linux lacks the video accelleration that windows has |
[00:11:28] | famicom: | Dibblah not really |
[00:11:29] | Dibblah: | So? Fix it. |
[00:11:37] | Dagmar: | kormoc: Seriously. By all accounts that Turtle Beach card I ordered is far better supported under Linux than it is Vista *or* XP |
[00:11:46] | Dagmar: | famicom: Fail. |
[00:11:48] | famicom: | Yeah, If they actually realeased the damn specifications |
[00:12:03] | kormoc: | Dagmar, I've had many a Intel network card that had rock solid linux drivers and none for windows |
[00:12:06] | Dibblah: | famicom: You obviously don't read the tech news. |
[00:12:14] | Dagmar: | Provided you buy a card from a vendor who actually gives a crap, i.e., nVidia, you get the same acceleration Windows does. |
[00:12:27] | famicom: | Dibblah yeah, AMD/Ati is on the right way |
[00:12:31] | Dibblah: | Both Intel and ATI are 'open'. |
[00:12:35] | kormoc: | Fjodor, yeah, I donno. You might get better help reporting upstream to the ubuntu team and seeing if they have any ideas |
[00:12:39] | famicom: | and Dagmar Try XVMC |
[00:12:52] | Dagmar: | famicom: I have. It works for me. |
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[00:13:03] | famicom: | On 1080p? |
[00:13:04] | Dagmar: | Do you have anything that's not FUD to say? |
[00:13:05] | kormoc: | famicom, I used XvMC with my 5200 and 6200 and it worked really really well |
[00:13:07] | Fjodor: | kormoc: Ok, will do. Thanks for your time :-) |
[00:13:09] | famicom: | through HDMI |
[00:13:14] | kormoc: | Fjodor, g'luck! |
[00:13:15] | famicom: | without overscan |
[00:13:17] | Dagmar: | XvMc works fine. |
[00:13:24] | Dagmar: | You're just about to show everyone how little you actually know. |
[00:13:25] | Fjodor: | kormoc: Thanks :-) |
[00:13:25] | kormoc: | famicom, OverScan is more dependant on the tv... |
[00:13:34] | kormoc: | famicom, esp with hdmi... |
[00:13:38] | famicom: | kormoc it worked fine in windows |
[00:13:40] | Dibblah: | Dagmar: ... XVMC and Truevideo or whatever are fairly different things. |
[00:13:47] | Dibblah: | Purevideo. |
[00:13:56] | Dagmar: | Dibblah: I didn't say a thing about Truevideo or Purevideo |
[00:14:02] | famicom: | i had perfect crisp 1360 * 720 resolution |
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[00:14:09] | famicom: | same for 1080I |
[00:14:10] | Dibblah: | Only moderately similar iff you're using mpeg2. |
[00:14:18] | famicom: | actually |
[00:14:30] | famicom: | right now i'm using a radeon HD2400pro |
[00:14:33] | kormoc: | famicom, honestly, I've only heard of people having issues like that with xvmc when they have a bad x config |
[00:14:36] | famicom: | Avivo is actually quite good |
[00:15:28] | kormoc: | Dibblah, well, he did say that it's the same as on windows, by default the windows nvidia driver does offload a similar amount to the gpu that xvmc does (just slightly more iirc), that said, windows has the option to go much farther |
[00:15:55] | kormoc: | Dibblah, tho, this is all more just what I've heard, as I've never really tested the rumor |
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[00:16:47] | famicom: | Actually |
[00:16:48] | Dagmar: | Me, I'm not goign to get bent out of shape about whether or not Linux lacks support for a codec that someone has _kept closed_ |
[00:17:09] | famicom: | Dagmar as mcuh as I agree |
[00:17:20] | famicom: | i NEED accelleration |
[00:17:27] | Dagmar: | It's the codec patent holder's problem, not mine. |
[00:17:32] | GreyFoxx: | what kind of cpu are you running on ? |
[00:18:25] | famicom: | well i started with a cx700m |
[00:18:41] | famicom: | Which was a VIA Eden chipset |
[00:18:55] | Dagmar: | ...and therefore is teh slow. |
[00:19:05] | famicom: | Dagmar actually |
[00:19:13] | Dagmar: | Yes, actually. |
[00:19:17] | famicom: | it has some great potential |
[00:19:18] | Dibblah: | Personally, I would say you don't need accelleration. |
[00:19:26] | Dibblah: | You need real hardware ;) |
[00:19:29] | famicom: | its a dedicated multi media chipset |
[00:19:32] | Dagmar: | So do nine-year-olds but you don't ask them to play in the majors. |
[00:19:39] | famicom: | yeah well |
[00:19:48] | famicom: | right now i got a 5600+ with 2 gigs of ram |
[00:19:55] | Dagmar: | No, it's a gimped chipset with barely adequate MM accelleration in an attempt to make up for it |
[00:20:01] | famicom: | as well as a radeon Avivo GPU |
[00:20:08] | famicom: | and it still barely makes it |
[00:20:23] | GreyFoxx: | ATI support under linux has always sucked |
[00:20:57] | kormoc: | famicom, that's like complaining that a p3 1 ghz can't play back 1080 h264... it's just unrealistic to expect that any video card would solve that... |
[00:21:48] | famicom: | well here's the fun part |
[00:22:05] | famicom: | once you hack the drivers you can actually get some pretty smooth playback |
[00:22:30] | kormoc: | so stop bitching and submit your patches upstream? |
[00:22:58] | famicom: | no |
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[00:23:28] | famicom: | because i had segfaults and kernel panics if i even remotely looked at it the wrong way |
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[00:27:29] | Dagmar: | ...and someone might actually say "Hey, this doesn't go any faster" |
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[00:28:25] | famicom: | well |
[00:28:42] | famicom: | the one thing that linux truely excells at is DVB |
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[00:28:52] | famicom: | it kicks windows hands down, no questions asked |
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[02:14:08] | jroysdon: | Anyone know the steps to upgrade MD4 -> MD5? I've backed up my DB, and have a complete off-box copy of /storage just in case. What I've read, I want to do a fresh install of MD5 (wiping root?) but leaving /storage and then once it is done restoring the DB? |
[02:14:23] | jroysdon: | Based on what is posted here: http://www.g-ding.tv/?q=node/3292 |
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[02:25:06] | TJ13820: | in my compile for myth tv, i came across the error "qmake for Qt4 not found. Please specify the correct qmake with --qmake=" Does this mean i am missing Qt4 files? |
[02:25:40] | TJ13820: | how do i fix this? |
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[02:39:23] | kormoc: | TJ13820, you could try specifying the correct qmake with --qmake="" |
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[02:39:58] | jeebusroxors: | alrighty, ive been googling for the past 2 hours to no avail – error to follow |
[02:40:05] | jeebusroxors: | FATAL: Error inserting cx8800 (/lib/modules/2.6.24-ARCH/kernel/drivers/media/video/cx88/cx8800.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
[02:40:38] | jeebusroxors: | dmesg gives me cx88_ir_stop ir_start and videobuf_queue_sg_ini |
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[02:54:46] | TelnetManta: | Anyone have config files for harmony remotes? |
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[03:06:11] | TJ13820: | how do i specify the version of qmake? |
[03:06:32] | TJ13820: | i can't get 4 to install, broken dependencies in virtual packages won't allow me to |
[03:06:59] | TJ13820: | so do i just use "./configure --qmake=*what do i put here*" |
[03:07:03] | Dagmar: | Then how do you expect it to _work_? |
[03:07:33] | Dagmar: | TDependency information isn't included in packages by developers just to make things look complex. |
[03:09:01] | TJ13820: | well. if the virtual packages would work, then i'd be just fine and dandy |
[03:09:09] | TJ13820: | but now i'm stuck with QT3 |
[03:10:12] | TJ13820: | so how do i define QT3, in the teminal? |
[03:10:38] | GreyFoxx: | You can't |
[03:10:51] | GreyFoxx: | If you are using a recent copy of svn trunk it is not QT3 compatible |
[03:11:06] | TJ13820: | then how do i get QT4 installed? |
[03:11:16] | GreyFoxx: | trunk was and is in the process of porting to QT4 only |
[03:11:22] | TJ13820: | these packages all tell me there is a dependency error |
[03:11:28] | GreyFoxx: | I know nothing of your distro |
[03:11:31] | TJ13820: | only with QT |
[03:11:36] | TJ13820: | i'm in Ubuntu |
[03:11:38] | GreyFoxx: | I merely untarred the source and compiled it |
[03:11:54] | GreyFoxx: | (QT source I mean) |
[03:12:12] | TJ13820: | which is available where |
[03:12:29] | GreyFoxx: | www.trolltech.no |
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[03:17:26] | TelnetManta: | does anyone know the easiest way to backup/export form sql my recording settings? |
[03:17:50] | GreyFoxx: | what settings specifically ? |
[03:18:42] | TelnetManta: | GreyFoxx: I want to be able to restore the shows that I have set to record. |
[03:18:59] | TelnetManta: | not so concerend about recording history |
[03:19:27] | GreyFoxx: | the record table has the recording schedules |
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[03:20:21] | TJ13820: | GreyFoxx: what did you do to install it? |
[03:20:21] | TJ13820: | untar |
[03:20:21] | TJ13820: | cd |
[03:20:21] | TJ13820: | configure |
[03:20:21] | TJ13820: | make |
[03:20:22] | TJ13820: | su |
[03:20:24] | TJ13820: | make install |
[03:20:42] | TJ13820: | oops, sorry i forgot that shift enter did that in IRC |
[03:21:11] | Dagmar: | Generally, we like to wait for commands to execute correctly before running the next one. |
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[03:32:46] | [yatta]: | Anyone have the scripts... for MythTV Metadata Autogeneration? |
[03:35:31] | kormoc: | nice dramatic pause there |
[03:38:27] | [yatta]: | I |
[03:38:53] | [yatta]: | ve looked here : http://idisk.mac.com/r.mcnamara-Public?view=web... but the page is blank |
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[03:44:46] | iamlindoro_: | Page isn't blank, your browser is broken |
[03:44:57] | iamlindoro_: | stop using beta Firefox |
[03:45:13] | [yatta]: | ohhhhh soorry... 8.04 usues it be default |
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[04:22:17] | [yatta]: | ok then...... FF2 is back.... thanks iamlindoro_ |
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[04:39:13] | justdave: | doesn't look like a FF bug, looks like Apple's claiming to use standards mode but trying to treat Firefox like it's Netscape Navigator 4 (whose methods don't work in standards mode, they only work in quirks mode) |
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[04:42:28] | justdave: | it sends the standards mode code for FF2 |
[04:42:51] | justdave: | looks like their browser sniff code is specific to FF2 and it falls back on the generic stuff in FF3 because it doesn't recognize it |
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[04:43:16] | justdave: | except they forget to switch the doctype out of standards mode when they do that |
[04:47:08] | kavorka^: | have just upgraded to 0.21 from 0.20.2....the backend has gone well....but in my frontend when im watching tv or a recording im not getting a OSD |
[04:48:44] | kavorka^: | hmm perhaps its my osd theme...ill try a different one |
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[04:52:43] | kavorka^: | ok fixed..phew |
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[05:48:14] | gizzmodo: | CAN ANY1 TELL ME HOW TO AUTORUN MYTHTV??? |
[05:48:18] | gizzmodo: | ON UBUNTU |
[05:49:41] | gizzmodo: | HELP |
[05:49:41] | gizzmodo: | !!! |
[05:49:41] | cesman: | gizzmodo: lesson one)turn your caplock off |
[05:49:44] | gizzmodo: | ???? |
[05:49:46] | gizzmodo: | ??? |
[05:49:48] | gizzmodo: | ???? |
[05:49:50] | gizzmodo: | ???? |
[05:49:52] | gizzmodo: | ???? |
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[05:54:40] | cesman: | gizzmodo: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frontend_Auto_Login |
[05:58:14] | kavorka^: | any gentoo users had mythweb break on em when upgrading from 0.20.2 to 0.21? |
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[08:10:03] | k-man: | is anyone here having trouble with mytharchive? (ver .21 on debian) |
[08:10:21] | k-man: | specificaly it fails when I try and transcode to make a DVD |
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[08:45:20] | mzb: | k-man: works for me |
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[08:50:06] | k-man: | ok |
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[08:53:12] | mzb: | k-man: check your logs (in the logs dir in the work directory) |
[08:53:36] | k-man: | yeah, i did |
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[09:01:23] | cafuego: | I have a mythfrontend.real eating 100% cpu as of about 5mins ago. Restarted it, but comes back eating cpu. Seems to be calling sched_yield() as far as it can over and over |
[09:01:33] | mzb: | k-man: ensure you have the files available locally and that there's enough room (3x the size of the original video is my rule-of-thumb). Apart from that, provide more detail. |
[09:03:09] | k-man: | i get this error "Please check if audio and video have standard IDs (0xc0 or 0xe0)" in the mythburn log |
[09:04:58] | cafuego: | For the record, http://mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006 . . . /161232.html – but I'm running 0.21. So it seems a bug is back. |
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[10:29:11] | bvidinli_: | hi |
[10:29:19] | bvidinli_: | i wanna ask something. |
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[11:51:22] | orko: | hi. i can not get pip to run. i have 3 tuner cards and pip semms to enable but i can not see the second windows |
[11:52:37] | orko: | beside determining the pip position in the configuration. Is there anythign else to do? |
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[11:58:39] | Solv: | at the risk of getting yelled out because it's been answered a million times...I'm gonna ask cause i can't see it on the forums/mythpages etc etc. Where has the option to use deinterlacing and bob 2x framerate gone in 0.21? |
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[12:03:13] | ** justinh is bored. damn rain ruins every bank holiday weekend ** | |
[12:17:42] | otwin: | Solv: edit your playback profile, 2nd screen |
[12:21:44] | Solv: | otwin, ta...i eventually found it...many more options now, hard to get it to work without stuttering anymore, but i think i found the right combo |
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[12:26:35] | justinh: | a viddy playback profiles. hate is a strong word but it suits those new settings |
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[12:49:42] | Sebulba02: | Hey, I'm running MythTV 0.20.2 on ubuntu feisty and for some reason my mythfilldatabase is no longer checking for changes to todays listings. I see mythfilldatabase has an option to do this, but it has never been part of my cron script. Is there something that has changed and I have to use this option now? |
[12:50:09] | Sebulba02: | * with the listing data from SD |
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[13:16:28] | sinep: | TV error: failed to get recording show list <- wtf!? |
[13:16:39] | sinep: | just tried to install this on a fresh ubuntu installation |
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[13:49:09] | Sebulba02: | At closer look, it appears to not be refreshing tomorrow. Has anyone experienced mythfilldatabase not doing this (I'm not passing it the option to not do it)? |
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[14:32:24] | tcpsyn: | Where'd juski's themes go? |
[14:33:33] | darkfrog: | anyone here using the ATI Remote Wonder II that can help me get the kernel module working again? I disabled it a while back and can't figure out how to revert back. |
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[14:37:38] | rambo3: | how do i install GTA 4 on my ubuntu and mythtv? |
[14:38:35] | darkfrog: | rambo3, buy Windows. :o |
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[15:40:04] | coppertop: | rambo3: or install wine |
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[15:46:11] | lanuser: | Hello – should there be a way to repeat commands in the telnet control shell by using the up/down arrow keys or is that just related to the telnet client? |
[15:46:33] | |Torg|: | its realted to the shell you use |
[15:47:34] | |Torg|: | its posible, but unlikly, that the program you use sends the special chars for up and down incorrectly. But history via arrow keys is a shell funtions, in this case bash |
[15:48:37] | GreyFoxx: | No, the telnet controls do not keep a history |
[15:49:09] | GreyFoxx: | It's not related to your shell or tlnet client :) |
[15:49:18] | GreyFoxx: | The telnet control interface just doesn't do it :) |
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[15:54:06] | |Torg|: | how many bluetooth devices can you hav operating at the same time? |
[15:56:12] | |Torg|: | http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/k . . . amp;cl=us,en |
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[16:00:46] | AndyCap: | lanuser: if you set your telnet client to line mode it would do. :) |
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[16:03:01] | AndyCap: | lanuser: but as GreyFoxx say the telnet interface couldn't care less. if you want that you have to do it client side. |
[16:03:42] | |Torg|: | actually AndyCap they cam, its just not that frequenet. I have seen ones that fail to send crontrol chars. Spefically the ones neded to make up and down arrow |
[16:04:16] | AndyCap: | |Torg|: what can? |
[16:05:29] | |Torg|: | A telnet program I used to have, it would not send extended ascii chars unless you implicitly set it to |
[16:05:33] | AndyCap: | you can send all the control chars you want to myths telnet interface, I dont think it cares. |
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[16:05:55] | |Torg|: | included in those chars are all the control chars, incluing bksp and the up and down arrros, not ctrl-i |
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[16:06:06] | |Torg|: | but they are old, and I doubt lanuser actually has one |
[16:06:19] | |Torg|: | most likly hes mising his bash_history file or not using bash |
[16:06:27] | AndyCap: | |Torg|: umm, no. |
[16:07:30] | |Torg|: | and myth dosnt have a telnet interface the OS does. in this case you are referring to the BSD equvilent telnet command in whatever linux distribution you use |
[16:07:53] | AndyCap: | |Torg|: wrong again: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-11.html#ss11.6 |
[16:08:00] | AndyCap: | myth does have a telnet interface. |
[16:08:35] | AndyCap: | and it does not have command line editing as far as I know, so if you want that you need a telnet client that can provide history and editing for you. |
[16:08:46] | GreyFoxx: | And by telnet we're talking about a basic network control port which you can connect to via telnet, not a real "telnet" server |
[16:08:52] | |Torg|: | AndyCap: typoe man telnet and look what it tells you |
[16:08:59] | lanuser: | Yes it does, the telnet control interface was a brilliant idea |
[16:09:21] | AndyCap: | |Torg|: thank you. I think I know my telnet already. |
[16:10:39] | AndyCap: | lanuser: what do you control it from? |
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[16:12:16] | lanuser: | my Debian box, it's the backend too, I'm just without IR control right now so telnet is my only option |
[16:12:43] | lexi__: | hi |
[16:15:11] | GreyFoxx: | lan: check out www.phaze.org/mythtv/cmdline-mythremote.tgz |
[16:15:24] | GreyFoxx: | It's a little C app which will connect to the telnet interface |
[16:15:40] | GreyFoxx: | then all your keystrokes get sent to the frontend as if you were using a keyboard on the box |
[16:16:08] | GreyFoxx: | I use it all the time when I can't find my remote but have a laptop nearby :) |
[16:16:33] | AndyCap: | maybe it's hidden under all the laptops? |
[16:16:50] | GreyFoxx: | Could be, there are several around here :) |
[16:17:44] | AndyCap: | lexi__: or if you have socat you could do "socat readline tcp:localhost:6546" |
[16:18:21] | lanuser: | GreyFoxx: sweet, thanks! |
[16:20:30] | lanuser: | GreyFoxx: wow, that's amazing, just control-c to exit? |
[16:20:39] | GreyFoxx: | lan: yup :) |
[16:20:47] | GreyFoxx: | And it's compilable under windows |
[16:20:54] | lanuser: | no way! |
[16:21:02] | GreyFoxx: | so you could have a icon on your desktop to pop up a control window heh |
[16:22:36] | lanuser: | It never ceases to amaze me, you guys are brilliant, I couldn't even program my way out of a wet paper bag |
[16:24:26] | GreyFoxx: | That code isn't mine. I just use it a lot. I can't find the life of me remember the name of the person I got it from in here back when the network controls first came out |
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[17:08:07] | cesman: | there is a web remote in mythweb 0.21 |
[17:08:23] | cesman: | there is also the Myth Web Remote that has been out for a while... |
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[17:12:51] | lanuser: | cesman: I'm running 0.21 and hadn't even noticed that, that's also very nice, better for the wife on her Mac |
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[17:16:43] | Jerr: | I have a Kworld ATSC 110, and I managed to get the Analog part running kinda with the v4l part |
[17:16:58] | Jerr: | I was wondering if anyone had gotten digital OTA working with it? |
[17:17:38] | Jerr: | actually, I'm still having problems with analog |
[17:17:54] | clever: | GreyFoxx: neat, ive been wondering if one of those existed for a while! |
[17:18:20] | Jerr: | the audio sampling rate seems wrong (it sounds like chipmunks), but even when I set it to 32000 (what I saw online), it's still weird |
[17:18:47] | clever: | Jerr: one of my audio cards could only run at 1 sample rate at once |
[17:18:57] | clever: | and if i tryed to record&play at 2 diff rates it messed things up |
[17:19:08] | Jerr: | but it sounds perfect in mplayer |
[17:19:18] | clever: | so if i was framegrabbing& using mplayer then it came out weird |
[17:20:02] | clever: | my problem was a combination of several programs fighting over the crappy card |
[17:21:02] | Jerr: | well all I have is mythbuntu |
[17:22:07] | Jerr: | and I don't know why MPlayer would sound fine, but MythTV would not, even when I told it to use 32000 sampling rate |
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[17:23:01] | Dagmar: | Jerr: If you're having sampling rate issues, 32Khz is generally not the answer. |
[17:23:52] | Dagmar: | The problematic sound cards tend to use 48 and 44 |
[17:24:08] | Dagmar: | IIRC 48Khz being the more common one |
[17:24:20] | Jerr: | oh you're right |
[17:24:52] | Jerr: | Mplayer switched me to 48Khz |
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[17:25:57] | clever: | yeah, try using the same rate that works in mplayer |
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[17:28:57] | Jerr: | it's a saa7134 chip |
[17:29:35] | Jerr: | using saa7134-alsa |
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[17:33:46] | Jerr: | it's at 48Khz and it still sounds the same |
[17:36:35] | Jerr: | the video is not smooth either |
[17:38:30] | Jerr: | it's almost as if it's playing faster, too |
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[17:40:58] | Dagmar: | Maybe use speaker-test to make sure ALSA isn't screwing up |
[17:42:19] | Jerr: | Dagmar: I'm hearing white noise with speaker-test |
[17:46:10] | Dagmar: | THat's what it's supposed to do when you run it without reading the man page first |
[17:46:21] | Dagmar: | White noise isn't going to tell you much that's useful |
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[17:46:33] | Jerr: | heh |
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[17:49:01] | Jerr: | http://pastebin.ca/1007192 is the output from mplayer, which displays video and audio just fine |
[17:49:11] | Jerr: | I'm gonna have lunch now though, so I'll be right back |
[17:49:19] | Dagmar: | So, the man page tells you how to coax a wav file teest out of it |
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[18:11:33] | Jerr: | Front left Front Right sounds exactly like the Creative speaker test |
[18:14:54] | Jerr: | ok, so if I do tell it 32000Hz it works fine |
[18:15:02] | Jerr: | but not in MythTV |
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[18:37:05] | ** iamlindoro thinks the new Discovery HD commercial is the best commercial ever ** | |
[18:37:46] | xris: | iamlindoro: finally got it? |
[18:38:10] | iamlindoro: | xris: Have had DHD for a few years, but yeah we got SciFi HD so I'm satisfied :) |
[18:39:04] | iamlindoro: | Seeing Steven Hawking sing the "Hoomdeeada" bit is funny, but it's also just a great HD commercial |
[18:39:56] | iamlindoro: | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=43722 . . . aIqgO0pMnFAQ |
[18:40:23] | iamlindoro: | Loses all the effect in YouTube format though :) |
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[18:46:24] | xris: | iamlindoro: DHD == HD Theatre, not "HD Discovery" |
[18:46:49] | xris: | I have HDT (I think it got renamed) as well as DiscHD |
[18:46:53] | iamlindoro: | xris: Here HDT is the HD Theatre Callsign |
[18:47:31] | iamlindoro: | and DSCHD for Discovery HD |
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[18:47:51] | xris: | ah, ok. so you do have different channels |
[18:48:06] | xris: | I only got discovery hd a few weeks ago when I got scifi |
[18:48:07] | Jerr: | ah, I'm watching Dirty Jobs right now on Discovery Channel (analog) |
[18:48:47] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, have both, recently got TLCHD, APL HD, CNN HD, SCIFIHD, FOOD HD, and... hmm.. AMC HD I think |
[18:49:34] | Jerr: | ok, I really don't get this |
[18:49:50] | iamlindoro: | I really like HD Theatre a lot, some of those shows are amazing looking |
[18:50:04] | Jerr: | Mplayer plays this just fine |
[18:50:35] | Jerr: | but Mythtv still plays it like its on drugs |
[18:51:35] | fryfrog: | wow, that was a really good commercial |
[18:51:37] | Jerr: | chipmunk sound, but I think it's also playing the video wrong |
[18:51:58] | iamlindoro: | fryfrog: Looks sooooo good in HD too |
[18:52:19] | Jerr: | are we all watching the same show? |
[18:52:20] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro: so i think *one* of my hd dvrs is good at recording, the other is not |
[18:52:35] | fryfrog: | the one i have setup as 1 fails like 99% of the time, i'm sure |
[18:52:38] | fryfrog: | #2 always works |
[18:52:42] | fryfrog: | i need to swap them :/ |
[18:52:50] | iamlindoro: | fryfrog: Hmm, weird... well, they can set profiles for each device type, so perhaps they've jacked up the firewire on their profile for the other |
[18:52:58] | fryfrog: | could be |
[18:53:04] | fryfrog: | i keep figuring out which is which... then forgetting :) |
[18:53:09] | iamlindoro: | hehe |
[18:53:13] | fryfrog: | did you see what model number i told you there were? |
[18:53:21] | fryfrog: | I think DCT-3612 and 3616 |
[18:53:23] | iamlindoro: | I saw them the other day, yeah |
[18:53:44] | iamlindoro: | I'm not familiar with the 3600 series so you may be on your own there |
[18:53:53] | fryfrog: | ah |
[18:53:58] | iamlindoro: | But probably ultimately will end up working the same |
[18:54:07] | fryfrog: | i may just pop over to their office and pick up the HD Tuners instead of HD DVR |
[18:54:20] | iamlindoro: | yeah, you'll save yourself a few bucks a month |
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[18:54:37] | fryfrog: | well, i specified HD Tuner when i signed up, so i'm not sure what they are charging me for |
[18:55:27] | iamlindoro: | Hopefully it's not one of those things where they give you a "free" DVR and a few premium channels hoping you'll forget in four months when your bill goes way up |
[18:55:58] | fryfrog: | it shouldn't be, i signed up for specific things when i called them |
[18:56:06] | fryfrog: | but you never know with comcast :p |
[18:56:18] | iamlindoro: | I won't miss priming firewire ports when my HD-PVR gets here |
[18:56:34] | fryfrog: | the one with component input? |
[18:56:38] | iamlindoro: | yup |
[18:56:45] | fryfrog: | you have one pre-ordered? |
[18:56:49] | iamlindoro: | yep |
[18:56:55] | fryfrog: | where from? and how much? |
[18:57:02] | iamlindoro: | From Hauppauge, $250 |
[18:57:03] | fryfrog: | god, it'd be nice to not deal with firewire |
[18:57:10] | fryfrog: | channel changing from firewire works like 100% :p |
[18:57:18] | fryfrog: | wow, thems a lot :/ |
[18:57:22] | iamlindoro: | Yeah, that part works well |
[18:57:29] | fryfrog: | maybe i can sell my PVR500 and pair of air2pc cards |
[18:57:57] | GreyFoxx: | since I turned off the bus reset option in mythtv-setup I haven't lost a single recording |
[18:58:05] | iamlindoro: | I'll keep my 3 QAM tuners at highest priority, and go to a pair of HD-PVRs for the boxes for everything else |
[18:58:06] | fryfrog: | really? |
[18:58:08] | GreyFoxx: | Switched to broadcast rather than p2p as well |
[18:58:09] | Jerr: | I bought this Kworld ATSC 110 from eBay for like $30 shipped |
[18:58:17] | fryfrog: | bcast i have to use |
[18:58:26] | fryfrog: | i'll turn off bus reset as soon as cygwin is installed |
[18:58:32] | GreyFoxx: | fry: I was looking 1 every couple days |
[18:58:38] | GreyFoxx: | now it's been weeks with no problems |
[18:59:02] | xris: | we're one person away from 100 members in the linkedin group for mythtv.. please join! http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/96734/7263542DA680 |
[18:59:11] | fryfrog: | i'll do it! |
[18:59:18] | iamlindoro: | GreyFoxx: It definitely went a long way to helping... Comcast has recently added a spate of 5C to random recordings in my area (like the military channel, weird...) so I'm going to go to the HD-PVR rather than worrying about when they will turn 5C on for the stuff I care about |
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[18:59:41] | GreyFoxx: | iam: ouch |
[19:00:11] | fryfrog: | xris: done! |
[19:00:17] | iamlindoro: | I'll take the tiny theoretical quality loss to guarantee a working recording each time-- will also be nice to avoid the slightly broken MPEG-2 stream Comcast puts out |
[19:00:39] | xris: | j-rod was talking at linuxfest about a cool new component->h264 encoder box |
[19:00:50] | iamlindoro: | a second one? |
[19:00:56] | xris: | might be the same one |
[19:01:06] | iamlindoro: | There was the fellow on the users list who said his company was also doing one |
[19:01:06] | xris: | hauppauge |
[19:01:07] | Dagmar: | iamlindoro: You can consider yourself lucky, then |
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[19:01:33] | iamlindoro: | xris: yeah, that's the HD-PVR, hoping to see mine in the next week or two |
[19:01:36] | Dagmar: | Most of their other markets are already doing everything with the exception of local broadcast channels and PBS (both of which they're not _allowed_ to) as 5C |
[19:02:02] | iamlindoro: | Dagmar: Yep, have definitely been lucky for a while, and truly continue to be, just don't want to worry about the randomness of it all |
[19:02:06] | fryfrog: | iamlindoro: when is the device expected to ship? and will support be back-ported into 0.21-fixes? |
[19:02:31] | iamlindoro: | fryfrog: They were *supposed* to start shipping last thursday, but the whispers say it'll actually be more like the 15th |
[19:02:49] | fryfrog: | ah |
[19:02:54] | fryfrog: | how many STBs do you have? |
[19:03:00] | Dagmar: | iamlindoro: Me, I'm probably going to just find a way to break it over the summer. |
[19:03:03] | iamlindoro: | fryfrog: And re: support, I have nothing to do with it but (and don't take this as gospel) I heard the patch may apply to .21 |
[19:03:21] | iamlindoro: | I have 2 STBs |
[19:03:24] | fryfrog: | i remember talking to the dude who is writing the driver and such |
[19:03:30] | fryfrog: | i don't recall what he said :/ |
[19:03:36] | Dagmar: | I've no interest in stealing, but I'll be damned if I'm going to make someone force me to buy their crippled shit just so they can ensure they have a way to force-feed me commercials. |
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[19:03:44] | iamlindoro: | He said pretty much what I just told you ;) |
[19:03:59] | fryfrog: | ah |
[19:04:32] | iamlindoro: | Dagmar: which, the STBs? Hmm, would be nice to disregard 5C. And I'll just leave my comments at that :) |
[19:04:45] | Dagmar: | which, the what? |
[19:04:56] | Dagmar: | I'm going to get an HVR-1600 card. |
[19:05:01] | iamlindoro: | Dagmar: You said find a way to break it, I assumed you meant 5C |
[19:05:08] | Dagmar: | 5c's just a flag. |
[19:05:46] | Dagmar: | I'm just going to avoid it entirely. The _hard_ part is going to be getting Myth to not bother with, show me, or record the channels outside of my payment plan. |
[19:06:08] | GreyFoxx: | the r5000 mods might be useful |
[19:06:39] | iamlindoro: | They do seem like neat mods... I would even consider them, regardless of high price, if they could do them on newer boxes |
[19:07:06] | iamlindoro: | Or if I could get satellite :) |
[19:07:18] | Jerr: | I'm really at a standstill here |
[19:09:46] | Jerr: | if it works in mplayer, how can I get it working in mythtv? |
[19:13:37] | Jerr: | like I get chipmunk sound and the video is not the right speed either |
[19:13:59] | Jerr: | but mplayer shows is perfectly |
[19:14:03] | Dagmar: | There's bound to be something in the wiki about this |
[19:14:10] | Dagmar: | Check the FAQ |
[19:14:11] | toorima: | iamlindoro: hi, is there a way to get the metacleanup script to not ask for confirmation after each file, sorta force yes? |
[19:15:15] | toorima: | iamlindoro: and thx again for fixing the error in the script so fast last time |
[19:15:33] | iamlindoro: | The script didn't have an error, the website changed, can't help that :) |
[19:16:01] | toorima: | oh sorry, that was what i meant |
[19:16:15] | Jerr: | Dagmar: doesn't seem to be in the FAQ |
[19:16:16] | iamlindoro: | Change: perl $RAGESCRIPT --dbhost=$SQLSERVER --dbname=$DBNAME --dbuser=$DBUSER --dbpass=$DBPASSWORD --prefix=$MOVIEHOME "$videofile" |
[19:16:24] | iamlindoro: | to: perl $RAGESCRIPT -i --dbhost=$SQLSERVER --dbname=$DBNAME --dbuser=$DBUSER --dbpass=$DBPASSWORD --prefix=$MOVIEHOME "$videofile" |
[19:16:33] | iamlindoro: | in tvscript.sh |
[19:16:43] | iamlindoro: | At least that's how I recall setting it up to auto-work |
[19:16:48] | toorima: | ok thank you |
[19:16:51] | toorima: | great script |
[19:16:58] | iamlindoro: | No problem |
[19:17:05] | iamlindoro: | I advise against it though, btw |
[19:17:15] | toorima: | why? |
[19:17:27] | iamlindoro: | because it makes some wild-ass guesses when it can't figure out what something is, and that's what they become in your video library |
[19:17:29] | ** GreyFoxx just started putting in folder icons for all of the tv series/seasons he has ** | |
[19:17:50] | iamlindoro: | So you could end up with some items that are *way* off |
[19:17:57] | toorima: | yeah but im rerunning it on files ive entered before so i sorta know what i will get |
[19:18:08] | iamlindoro: | if you can handle the annoyance, then no problem |
[19:18:11] | iamlindoro: | yeah, sounds like you'll be fine |
[19:18:14] | toorima: | had a system crash and rebuilt with .21 and wanted fresh db |
[19:18:35] | toorima: | and the small errors i get i fix in phpmyadmin |
[19:18:38] | iamlindoro: | the other caveat is, as always, that you want to be 100% certain you've handled all your movies before you run it in an automated way on TV shows |
[19:19:00] | toorima: | true |
[19:19:04] | iamlindoro: | otherwise Harry potter becomes "Harry and the Hendersons the TV Series S01e01" |
[19:19:05] | iamlindoro: | etc. |
[19:19:16] | toorima: | i allways run the imdb script first |
[19:19:25] | toorima: | haha harry and the hendersons |
[19:19:26] | iamlindoro: | Should be fine then |
[19:19:35] | toorima: | have got a few of those |
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[19:21:42] | Jerr: | so the card audio is at 32Khz on mplayer |
[19:21:57] | Jerr: | I set that on the mythtv capture card, it still sounds bad |
[19:22:04] | Jerr: | I even tried 48Khz |
[19:22:10] | Jerr: | no change |
[19:22:20] | Jerr: | It's analog v4l |
[19:24:31] | Jerr: | http://pastebin.ca/1007192 is output from mplayer, which has correct video/audio |
[19:24:36] | famicom: | Jerr |
[19:24:45] | famicom: | go to playback groups |
[19:24:52] | famicom: | then hardware transponders |
[19:24:52] | Jerr: | I don't know if there's a way to get output from mythtv |
[19:25:07] | famicom: | then edit 32000 to 48000 |
[19:25:36] | famicom: | right now you have a 32khz stream being upsampled to 48 |
[19:28:06] | Jerr: | I'm sorry, where is that? |
[19:29:00] | famicom: | somewhere in the settings |
[19:29:05] | famicom: | Im not sure |
[19:29:09] | famicom: | i dont have access to my box |
[19:30:40] | famicom: | but the default mythtv settings are fucked |
[19:32:13] | Jerr: | well the audio thing for the capture card did nothing |
[19:32:32] | Jerr: | I changed it from 32000 to 48000 already, and tried other stuff without any change |
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[19:33:32] | sphery: | Don't you hate it when you write a patch (which works), and you write a test for the patch (that doesn't work), and you waste time trying to fix the (working) patch because of it? |
[19:33:40] | famicom: | yeah |
[19:34:06] | famicom: | especially cause you get tunnel vision and in the end you keep running in circles |
[19:34:13] | famicom: | and you end up deleting everything |
[19:34:17] | famicom: | and you are back where you started |
[19:35:00] | sphery: | I caught the bad test before I started over (this time), but I've been there, before, too. |
[19:35:28] | GreyFoxx: | find . -name folder.jpg |
[19:35:30] | GreyFoxx: | oops |
[19:35:34] | famicom: | yeah |
[19:35:39] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: i've seen the "don't reset firewire" switch, but I don't recall where. Can you remind me? |
[19:35:41] | sphery: | It's always a copy/paste/forget-to-change-something thing in my bad tests, too. |
[19:35:56] | GreyFoxx: | Fry: mythtv-setup, one of the General pages |
[19:35:59] | famicom: | sphery write down step by step lists |
[19:36:04] | fryfrog: | GreyFoxx: ah, thanks |
[19:36:06] | famicom: | as well as a generall todo |
[19:36:54] | sphery: | yeah, I just always try to do a "quick" test before uploading a patch. It's the quick that gets me. |
[19:36:55] | ** GreyFoxx giggles with satisfaction as all of his folder.jpg's go bye bye ** | |
[19:37:22] | sphery: | did something change with folder.jpg? |
[19:37:45] | GreyFoxx: | I got sick of putting in a cover poster, then copying and renaming to folder.jpg |
[19:38:01] | sphery: | so you have a cool new feature? |
[19:38:13] | GreyFoxx: | so I patched it to look for folder.* and if none found, load any the first of any image in the directory as the icon |
[19:38:29] | sphery: | cool |
[19:38:36] | GreyFoxx: | so now I just drop the original image in the dir and it shows up as the directory icon |
[19:38:55] | famicom: | as well as a generall todo8u7p;['p8 |
[19:38:56] | famicom: | ]89] |
[19:39:01] | GreyFoxx: | also less confusion than hundreds of folder.jpg's :) |
[19:39:11] | famicom: | |
[19:39:12] | famicom: | 40. |
[19:39:22] | sphery: | famicom: looks a lot like a mkpasswd.pl password on there... :) |
[19:39:48] | fryfrog: | xris: you "chris"? |
[19:40:02] | fryfrog: | nm, yes you are |
[19:40:18] | famicom: | sphery eh |
[19:40:21] | famicom: | my bad |
[19:40:29] | famicom: | i was vacuming my keyboard |
[19:40:33] | famicom: | trying to get the pizza out |
[19:40:35] | sphery: | he's the MythWeb Chris, not the jobqueue Chris, though. :) |
[19:40:50] | fryfrog: | he just added me on linked in, figured it was him but wanted to make sure |
[19:40:54] | fryfrog: | but /whois tells me it is :) |
[19:40:56] | sphery: | famicom: Good. Easier than having to change all your passwords (been there before, too). |
[19:41:21] | famicom: | sphery i have dozens of passwords |
[19:42:35] | fryfrog: | 1234, 2345, 3456, 4567, etcetc :) |
[19:43:21] | famicom: | not really |
[19:43:39] | fryfrog: | it was sarcasm :/ |
[19:43:47] | famicom: | more like: 5dpag8up1j893f0ttwog2sr95 d46gwa74yzj9ibeulf3kt2x1v |
[19:43:51] | famicom: | stuff like that |
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[19:44:51] | fryfrog: | if you delete a channel from SD, then mythfilldatabase does it get removed or not? |
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[19:46:08] | Jerr: | wow, this is really bugging me |
[19:46:26] | fryfrog: | could you use a different sound card? |
[19:46:37] | Jerr: | I don't think it's the sound card |
[19:46:56] | Jerr: | because it's working just fine upscaling 32Khz to 48Khz in mplayer |
[19:47:02] | fryfrog: | oh |
[19:47:07] | fryfrog: | alsa settings/setup? |
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[19:49:21] | Jerr: | what's VBI device? could that have to do with anything? |
[19:49:26] | sphery: | fryfrog: you have to remove the channel from SD, then from the DB (using mythtv-setup). |
[19:49:56] | sphery: | VBI = Vertical Blanking Interval = place where non-picture data was historically transmitted |
[19:50:13] | sphery: | normally, people are talking about captions/teletext when talking about VBI |
[19:50:17] | Jerr: | ok |
[19:50:23] | Jerr: | closed captions work just fine |
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[19:51:06] | sphery: | Jerr: what do you have for your Audio Output Device in Myth? |
[19:51:48] | Jerr: | ALSA:default |
[19:52:08] | sphery: | and your Mixer Device is default |
[19:52:16] | Jerr: | yes |
[19:52:27] | sphery: | Do you have an /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc? |
[19:52:43] | fryfrog: | sphery: thanks, i used mythweb lets see if it worked right |
[19:53:11] | sphery: | fryfrog: can't guarantee it (still) does it right, but let us know if it doesn't |
[19:53:19] | Jerr: | sphery: no |
[19:53:31] | sphery: | Jerr: and you're trying to get analog output? |
[19:53:42] | Jerr: | sphery: I'm running mythbuntu, and yes, analog output |
[19:54:02] | Jerr: | but I'm wondering if something might be wrong with the livetv encoder |
[19:54:15] | Jerr: | because it's not very smooth either |
[19:54:28] | Jerr: | like the video seems a bit fast or jaggedy, too |
[19:54:32] | sphery: | Do you have for "Use video as timebase"? It should be disabled. |
[19:54:44] | Jerr: | where would that be? |
[19:54:51] | sphery: | mythfrontend settings |
[19:55:10] | sphery: | under TV Settings|Playback Settings |
[19:55:28] | Jerr: | it's disabled |
[19:55:38] | sphery: | Also, make sure "Aggressive Sound card Buffering" is disabled |
[19:55:53] | sphery: | That one is is main General settings |
[19:56:17] | Jerr: | disabled |
[19:56:31] | sphery: | Are you hearing any sound? |
[19:56:45] | Jerr: | yes, chipmunk sound (don't know the technical term for it) |
[19:57:07] | sphery: | And you're sure the saa7134's ALSA device is card 2? |
[19:57:16] | Jerr: | card 1 |
[19:57:55] | sphery: | card 1 meaning not card 0, right (i.e. it's not the default one) |
[19:58:03] | Jerr: | yes |
[19:58:06] | Jerr: | second one |
[19:58:12] | sphery: | what sound card? |
[19:58:39] | Jerr: | 0 is the computer sound card (SiS SI7012), 1 is SAA7134, 2 is UART |
[19:58:54] | Jerr: | from proc/asound/cards |
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[19:59:08] | sphery: | and I'm assuming you have a relatively recent ALSA (from the last 2 years or so, right)? |
[19:59:29] | Jerr: | I sure hope so, it's Mythbuntu 8.04 |
[19:59:49] | Jerr: | I doubt they would be shipping with an old ALSA |
[20:00:13] | Jerr: | It's a 2.6.24 kernel |
[20:00:19] | fryfrog: | what happens if you use built in sound instead of your addon? |
[20:00:35] | Jerr: | fryfrog: what do you mean? |
[20:00:47] | fryfrog: | i mean, you just said you have *two* sound cards, right? |
[20:00:52] | Jerr: | fryfrog: no |
[20:00:57] | sphery: | OK. Then you shouldn't need it for what you're doing, but it won't hurt to put http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Configur . . . .2C_Properly in place |
[20:01:16] | fryfrog: | oh, sorry |
[20:01:23] | fryfrog: | card 1 is your capture card i guess |
[20:01:35] | sphery: | fryfrog: he has one sound card, but the capture card has a built in capture device that has ALSA driver/device |
[20:01:42] | fryfrog: | gotcha |
[20:01:44] | sphery: | so, yeah |
[20:02:16] | sphery: | Jerr: put a copy of that .asoundrc in the home directory of the user running mythfrontend, then restart mythfrontend, please. |
[20:04:25] | sphery: | If you get the same effect then, you'll have to fix your recording profiles. |
[20:07:56] | Jerr: | yep, still chipmunks |
[20:08:11] | Jerr: | Mike Rowe singing as a chipmunk... |
[20:08:52] | sphery: | Does the card do 48kHz audio? |
[20:08:58] | Jerr: | yes |
[20:09:11] | sphery: | Did you try setting the recording profile to use 48kHz audio? |
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[20:09:19] | Jerr: | the recording profile shows the sampling at 32000 |
[20:09:26] | Jerr: | should I change default or live tv? |
[20:09:27] | sphery: | Try setting it to 48000 |
[20:09:35] | sphery: | whichever you're using to test. ;) |
[20:09:51] | sphery: | I'm guessing LiveTV, for now. |
[20:10:23] | Jerr: | sphery: default works! |
[20:10:25] | Jerr: | thanks! |
[20:10:44] | Jerr: | no more chipmunks |
[20:10:51] | sphery: | Jerr: It still means that you have an ALSA configuration issue, but if you never experience the issue, it's really not a problem, right? ;) |
[20:11:05] | Jerr: | yep :) |
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[20:11:16] | sphery: | You may have problems with MythMusic (playing CD's), but most other stuff should work for you.\ |
[20:11:34] | Jerr: | I won't play CDs with this anyways |
[20:11:40] | sphery: | BTW, what do you have for the -ao for MPlayer? |
[20:12:14] | Jerr: | I don't know |
[20:12:18] | Jerr: | I ran this: mplayer tv://53 -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0:chanlist=us-cable:alsa:adevice=hw.1,0:amode=1:aud iorate=32000:forceaudio:volume=100:immediatemode=0:norm=NTSC |
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[20:13:22] | sphery: | Oh, I thought since that worked for you, you might have specified an ALSA logical device name that works, but it turns out that you just worked around the ALSA misconfiguration with the ao string |
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[20:13:37] | sphery: | perhaps not... |
[20:13:54] | sphery: | what do you get with: cat .mplayer/config | grep '^ao=' |
[20:14:05] | sphery: | oops, I mean: cat ~/.mplayer/config | grep '^ao=' |
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[20:14:34] | famicom_: | anyone got any pointers on replacing the default mythtv player with mplayer |
[20:14:39] | famicom_: | the internal player is fucked |
[20:14:49] | kormoc: | famicom, you can't. |
[20:14:50] | Jerr: | that file is empty |
[20:15:10] | sphery: | famicom_: Yeah. I point to http://freevo.sourceforge.net/ |
[20:15:53] | kormoc: | famicom_, why are you even using myth? All you've done for the past few days is just bitch about how bad it is... |
[20:15:58] | sphery: | Jerr: OK. I don't know how MythBuntu has things configured. |
[20:16:07] | famicom_: | kormoc because i do love it |
[20:16:28] | sphery: | famicom_: Do you mean for a specific filetype in MythVideo, or do you really mean, "the default mythtv player"? |
[20:17:03] | famicom_: | well, i know that the default player is built from ffmpeg |
[20:17:10] | famicom_: | but there are somethings that need fixing |
[20:17:13] | kdub: | damn did they take the weekly builds off of atrpms-bleeding? |
[20:17:48] | famicom_: | i want my hdmi sound dammit |
[20:17:54] | kormoc: | famicom_, ffmpeg is based on libavcodec which is what mplayer uses as it's core as well... |
[20:18:02] | sphery: | famicom_: If you really don't want to use the mythtv Internal player for TV, you want Freevo. |
[20:18:11] | |Torg|: | if you want to play with bleading edge software you should know how to debug it. And hopefully how to at leat attmept to fix its malloc and race conditions. |
[20:18:24] | famicom_: | in that case I will build the player from source |
[20:18:33] | Aval0n: | sup torg |
[20:18:41] | |Torg|: | hey Aval0n :) |
[20:18:58] | sphery: | MythTV = a fully integrated DVR software package & Freevo = glue, tape, and string tying together whatever things a user wants to use to make a DVR. ;) |
[20:19:04] | Aval0n: | ;) |
[20:19:35] | Jerr: | sphery: thanks again |
[20:20:01] | sphery: | Jerr: enjoy and sorry I couldn't find the config issue. |
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[20:21:35] | Jerr: | no prob |
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[21:11:03] | antgel_: | Having an odd problem. have recently moved house, and in the new house, certain DVB channels don't work on my mythtv box. I have established that the aerial is good using a standalone DVB box, and also in myth, the signal is good on the channels that work. |
[21:12:38] | antgel_: | So, I'm thinking maybe it's to do with some channels being on different frequencies here? But I have to confess I've forgotten how this stuff works as it's been such a long time since I set it up. Where does myth get the frequencies from? tv_grab_uk_rt runs every night as a result of mythfilldatabase, but that doesn't do the trick. |
[21:12:43] | antgel_: | Clues appreciated. |
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[21:15:44] | lanuser: | antgel_ can you delete the card(s), re-add them and then scan for channels? |
[21:16:03] | antgel_: | lanuser: i guess i could. might it be due to stale data? |
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[21:16:18] | cesman: | antgel_: what lanuser stated, or just step 5 in mythtv-setup and scan for channels |
[21:16:44] | cesman: | should be a switch in there to "rename"... |
[21:16:47] | antgel_: | cesman: okay. i'm in mythtv-setup now, but i thought all that does is to run mythfilldatabase |
[21:17:28] | cesman: | mythtv-setup doesn't directly run mythfilldatabase |
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[21:21:03] | fryfrog: | it doesn't really even indirectly run it |
[21:21:09] | fryfrog: | it suggests you do so afterwards though |
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[21:23:35] | nick_fn: | I have a very strange problem. If I start firefox from mythfrontend, it can't find a shared library! Started from a shell, it works fine. This is Debian lenny. "/usr/lib/iceweasel/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
[21:23:45] | nick_fn: | I'm quite confused by it. |
[21:24:54] | antgel_: | cesman, fryfrog: it's all flooding back now. i think these menus have changed quite a lot in the last couple of years. :) doing a channel scan now. |
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[21:25:52] | lanuser: | nick_fn is "/usr/lib" in your ld.so.conf? add it if not and re-run ldconfig |
[21:26:44] | antgel_: | lanuser: debian does it differently, includes files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/. plus istr that /usr/lib is implicit but ICBW. |
[21:28:28] | lanuser: | antgel_ I'm running debian and for some reason have always had to add folders to my ld.so.conf for some reason, "the debian way" infuriates me sometimes (mostly because I probably don't fully understand it) |
[21:28:46] | nick_fn: | lanuser: same problem, but that library is in /usr/lib/iceweasel anyway – which the firefox wrapper script sets in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.... |
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[21:31:29] | clever: | ive used LD_PRELOAD to force a certain client side glx lib |
[21:31:39] | clever: | when both the avi and nvidia drivers where installed |
[21:31:46] | clever: | caused some fun bugs also |
[21:32:15] | clever: | if i used the nvidia glx on the ati driver the color of the entire screen would be f*cked up but only when mythtv had focus |
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[21:34:31] | antgel_: | great, i'm sorted now. just need to check the grabber settings in mythweb |
[21:34:39] | nick_fn: | very very strange. If I have mythfrontend run gnome-terminal, and run firefox in THAT, it works OK |
[21:35:00] | clever: | run env from the term and where it doesnt work |
[21:35:08] | clever: | could be a lack of an env variable |
[21:35:14] | clever: | or a perm change(run id) |
[21:35:30] | nick_fn: | I tried that too (running set, and logging the output) |
[21:35:59] | clever: | set includes private stuff that bash doesnt pass on |
[21:36:00] | clever: | env is an external prog so it doesnt get all the functions&aliases |
[21:37:01] | nick_fn: | ok |
[21:37:29] | clever: | FOO=bar |
[21:37:30] | clever: | not the same |
[21:37:32] | clever: | export FOO=bar |
[21:37:34] | nick_fn: | I'd expect an environment problem (which it clearly (?) must be) would be passed on to gnome-terminal, and break firefox _there_ as well, but it doesn't. |
[21:37:45] | clever: | one is kept private within bash and the other gets exported to all children |
[21:38:05] | clever: | your bashrc may redo the env settings |
[21:38:11] | clever: | and fix it |
[21:38:27] | antgel_: | Another question. If in mythweb channel list, I set appropriate data in xmltvid, and leave useonairguide ticked, will it use xmltv as a base then EIT when there are changes, or will EIT just overwrite everything else? |
[21:38:47] | clever: | never got eit working here |
[21:38:50] | antgel_: | (I like the UK Radio Times grabber as the info is better than EIT.) |
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[21:42:44] | antgel_: | clever: ok, but generally if eit is on does it override xmltv data? |
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[21:42:56] | clever: | no idea |
[21:46:28] | nick_fn: | I think it's related to me having mythfrontend setuid |
[21:47:04] | nick_fn: | yep, that's the cause |
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[21:52:55] | antgel_: | nick_fn: setuid what? |
[21:53:38] | nick_fn: | antgel_: root. I believe I did that because something complained that it wasn't, so couldn't do realtime something. |
[21:53:40] | Aval0n: | anyone in here familiar with plasma horizontal banding? |
[21:53:55] | antgel_: | nick_fn: doesn't sound like a great idea to me |
[21:54:09] | nick_fn: | antgel_: me neither really; I've undone that for now. |
[21:54:23] | JohnMahowald: | Running as root sounds like a terrible idea. |
[22:00:40] | clever: | nick_fn: realtime is just to get extra cpu power into mythtv |
[22:00:48] | clever: | and suck every other program dry |
[22:01:26] | nick_fn: | that sounds OK to me; I'd rather everything else struggle and my video playback smooth |
[22:02:04] | clever: | would only be needed on extremely underpowered systems |
[22:02:07] | clever: | even my 400mhz doesnt need it |
[22:02:24] | nick_fn: | ok, I see |
[22:02:36] | dustybin: | clever: are you still 'cleverly' running mythtv + compiz ? |
[22:02:42] | clever: | dustybin: yeah:P |
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[22:03:33] | clever: | only new problem ive noticed was all decorations disapearing |
[22:03:34] | clever: | but i wasnt even using myth then |
[22:03:42] | clever: | and it was trivial to restart compiz |
[22:04:06] | rwalker: | Seen some people on the forums talking about the Sage HD extender... anyone know if someone got one to test? |
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[22:15:35] | mcquaid: | just wanted to confirm. I thought I read that .21 added opengl playback and not just the vsync option |
[22:15:42] | fryfrog: | who is rob smith? |
[22:15:54] | mcquaid: | my geforce 6200 doesn't have xv adjustments for bright/contrast etc |
[22:16:09] | mcquaid: | is opengl avail for playback? |
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[22:17:56] | mcquaid: | anyone? |
[22:18:44] | mcquaid: | in the .21 notes it says: Fix OpenGL Renderer picture controls. (Note: Experimental OpenGL renderer is disabled by dafault.) |
[22:18:57] | mcquaid: | is that referring to the opengl vsync option or something else? |
[22:19:26] | nick_fn: | Thank you for your help! |
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[22:29:03] | antgel: | mcquaid: no, to the menu drawing AFAIK |
[22:29:20] | antgel: | but i could be very very wrong |
[22:29:34] | rwalker: | mcquiad: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/OpenGL |
[22:29:39] | antgel: | could also be a renderer that lives in the same family as bob et al |
[22:29:45] | rwalker: | Don't know if that is what you are looking for... |
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[23:01:32] | fryfrog: | hey, that "don't reset" firewire setting may have made things a bit better! |
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[23:04:57] | fryfrog: | anyone done an Ubuntu 7.10 -> 8.04 on their myth system yet? |
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[23:33:07] | jeebusroxors: | anyone have any info for cx8800 audio issues? |
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[23:46:25] | jeebusroxors: | noone? |
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[23:48:13] | simcop2387-lap: | anyone know now to use the manual zoom mode thing when playing back? |
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[23:53:50] | simcop2387-lap: | ah never mind i found the keybindings |
[23:54:13] | jeebusroxors: | know anything about cx8800? |
[23:55:00] | simcop2387-lap: | now i've got a wiki question, in the wiki its called playback zoom mode, in the menu when playing back it calls it "manual zoom mode" should that be changed, if not is there any way i could make it show up in the search for "manual zoom" so that its easier to find |
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