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| [00:46:52] | destructar_: | hi, i'm currently unable to get watch tv. i get "could not connect to the master backend server" |
| [00:47:26] | destructar_: | just installed mythtv on ubuntu 8.04. I've been running it for several months now with very few issues. had to wipe my system and start over after a sever crash yesterday |
| [00:48:16] | destructar_: | now I can't get past this issue... backend server is abel to run mythfilldatabaes with no issues... all setup went fine. this seems to be my final step to get rolling again. any help would be great |
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| [01:01:44] | elg: | i'd like to set up a schedule that keeps one recording, the oldest, but expires if it's been watched (even though there's enough disk space, and it wouldn't auto-expire) |
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| [02:09:04] | psm321: | looks like scheduler is broken in trunk :-/ (unless i missed something) |
| [02:09:12] | psm321: | i guess i'll go to -fixes |
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| [02:55:01] | J-e-f-f-A: | !seen iamlindoro |
| [02:55:02] | MythLogBot: | iamlindoro is here and has been idle for 5 hours 12 minutes 44 seconds |
| [02:55:09] | J-e-f-f-A: | !seen iamlindoro_ |
| [02:55:09] | MythLogBot: | iamlindoro_ was last seen 5 hours 58 minutes 3 seconds ago |
| [02:57:50] | J-e-f-f-A: | iamlindoro, hehe... finally done reshaping... ;-) /dev/md0 2.3T 923G 1.4T 40% /mnt/mythtv |
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| [03:06:13] | _ZoC: | friends, where I can find the library libjack.so.0 (what package) ?! |
| [03:11:21] | shiznix: | _ZoC: media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit |
| [03:12:38] | _ZoC: | shiznix, ok, I'm try install in CentOS5, do you know if this repo work fine to this version ?! |
| [03:13:39] | shiznix: | oh, dunno about CentOS :| |
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| [03:18:12] | psm321: | what version of ivtv is recommended? (looks to me like the has_buggy_vbi warning covers almost all versions) |
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| [03:21:23] | _ZoC: | shiznix, man, dependency a lot of |
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| [03:37:23] | unstable: | I have this HDTV, without MythTV, and SWMBO gets pissed off when I watch tv at night, and wake her up. Anyone that can recommend a good bluetooth stereo headphones kit, where I can plug in to audio out port on my tv, and it will transmit the sound to bluetooth headphones that I'm wearing. So no one else is disturbed? |
| [03:37:36] | unstable: | This isn't really about mythtv at all, but I couldn't think of a better place to ask. |
| [03:43:31] | Aval0n-: | anyone ever seen horizontal banding like this on a plasma? |
| [03:43:35] | Aval0n-: | http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php . . . d=1207615967 |
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| [03:48:02] | psm321: | unstable: i dunno about bluetooth but i know theres ir and rf versions of that sort of thing that come with their own headphones |
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| [03:51:21] | psm321: | for some reason the change tuner key isnt cycling through all tuners for me anymore after upgrade (in watch tv, and yes all the tuners are free) |
| [03:55:06] | unstable: | psm321: Do you have a particular model/manufacturer you recommend? |
| [03:56:45] | psm321: | unstable: no not really, sorry... the last time i used one was many years ago |
| [03:56:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | part rebooting... ;-) |
| [03:56:55] | J-e-f-f-A: | PART rebooting... |
| [03:57:02] | psm321: | i think the 2 i've used were sony and jvc |
| [03:57:05] | ** J-e-f-f-A ah heck with it... c'ya... ** | |
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| [04:19:43] | _ZoC: | good night people. |
| [04:19:52] | _ZoC: | c u later. |
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| [04:21:51] | ajh: | psm321, they changed the bindings around, look for the change card option in the keybindings. |
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| [04:49:30] | k-man_: | whats a good remote for mythtv? |
| [04:50:47] | kdubya: | the one that feels the best in your hand |
| [04:51:06] | k-man_: | is there a commonly used one for myth? |
| [04:51:43] | Agrajag-: | no |
| [04:51:54] | Agrajag-: | people normally just use whatever came with their tuner card |
| [04:51:57] | kdubya: | most people use one that was made for windows mce, or they use a logitech harmony |
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| [04:52:42] | k-man_: | i used the mce one |
| [04:52:48] | k-man_: | didn't like it |
| [04:52:51] | k-man_: | so i got rid of it |
| [04:53:04] | kdubya: | there are hundreds of different mce remotes |
| [04:53:26] | k-man_: | and the one that came with my tv card is good except that the receiver picks up interference from ambient light or something and randomly changes channel from time to time |
| [04:53:35] | kdubya: | of you want a "good" remote I think the consensus with the av crowd is the harmony remotes |
| [04:53:43] | kdubya: | of=if |
| [04:53:45] | k-man_: | kdubya, ok, thanks |
| [04:54:27] | k-man_: | but do you have to build the home build ir receiver for it to work? |
| [04:55:29] | kdubya: | no |
| [04:55:38] | kdubya: | any reciever you were already working will work |
| [04:55:56] | kdubya: | but if there was interference with that reciever then there will be with any remote |
| [04:56:08] | k-man_: | kdubya, right... thats the problem then |
| [04:56:11] | k-man_: | so i need a new receiver |
| [04:56:18] | k-man_: | is there an off the shelf receiver solution? |
| [04:56:19] | kdubya: | or you could shield the one you cot |
| [04:56:24] | kdubya: | got* |
| [04:56:46] | k-man_: | no, its crap, it also picks up my remote for the amp too... and sometimes that does random things too |
| [04:56:58] | kdubya: | a lot of the MCE remotes come with a USB ir reciever, i do not know where to get one alone |
| [04:59:14] | nevyn: | there's a bunch of options for recievers. |
| [04:59:25] | nevyn: | I have a commandIR. |
| [04:59:38] | kdubya: | fancy |
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| [04:59:47] | nevyn: | which I really should get around to implementing as life is now complicated enough to warrant it. |
| [04:59:59] | nevyn: | 3 remotes plus ps2/Wii/PS3 |
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| [05:00:29] | nevyn: | projector, AVR, mythfrontend |
| [05:00:46] | nevyn: | the lounge suffers a little from device explosion. |
| [05:01:10] | _ZoC: | friends, how can i grab a video (source by cam corder). The Mythtv it's runing normally |
| [05:01:16] | _ZoC: | *running |
| [05:01:38] | kdubya: | i wouldnt use myth for that, but you could set up a manual recording |
| [05:02:23] | _ZoC: | kdubya, what do you use to capture movie by card capture ?! |
| [05:02:45] | kdubya: | i dont know |
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| [05:02:59] | kdubya: | it just seems a dedicated tool would be better at that than myth is |
| [05:03:14] | nevyn: | and the mythtv remote does strange things to the AVR occasionally. |
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| [05:06:14] | psm321: | ajh: where would i look? the key i used to use works to cycle but skips some |
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| [05:08:01] | psm321: | anyone have any experience with intel hda sound? i'm having trouble getting any audio capture going and the mixer controls are confusing |
| [05:10:44] | _ZoC: | friends, how can I watch in mythtv what I put on dvd or vhs for example ?! |
| [05:13:44] | k-man_: | _ZoC, do you mean you want to watch a DVD in mythtv? |
| [05:14:34] | _ZoC: | k-man, I would like to capture from vhs (or external dvd for example), but for now, just watch |
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| [05:17:47] | _ZoC: | k-man, did you understand me ?! |
| [05:18:42] | k-man_: | _ZoC, yes, not sure |
| [05:18:51] | k-man_: | i thought ou meant you wanted to watch a dvd in mythtv |
| [05:19:06] | _ZoC: | k-man, just a vhs ;) |
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| [05:22:43] | _ZoC: | k-man, man, I'll learn first this tool :), but thank you for help |
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| [05:26:39] | psm321: | arecord also gives me nothing |
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| [05:39:46] | psm321: | has the encoder changed recently? (qualitatively, quality seems to be lower than before) |
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| [05:40:32] | peque: | Hey groiup. I've got a problem when grabbing EPG! Only some channels are 2hours behind in their info – is there any way to set this rigth |
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| [07:02:19] | psm321: | this is great! allow this program to re-record is now available w/o deleting the current recording... i've been wanting that feature for a long time |
| [07:02:30] | psm321: | thanks to whoever did that :) |
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| [09:01:50] | justinh: | heh whoever put 2 lines of code in, lol |
| [09:02:23] | justinh: | there has to be a point where folks stop adding more menu items though.. could get silly |
| [09:03:05] | justinh: | a rule of thumb is reckoned to tbe hat any more than 6 menu items is too many & I could see myself agreeing with that |
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| [09:20:06] | Johnsel: | heey! |
| [09:20:10] | Johnsel: | anyone here? |
| [09:20:13] | justinh: | nope |
| [09:20:36] | Johnsel: | hehe |
| [09:20:42] | Johnsel: | could you help me? |
| [09:21:33] | justinh: | that would very much depend on what the problem is |
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| [09:22:32] | Johnsel: | well |
| [09:22:50] | Johnsel: | i'm trying to get a frontend working |
| [09:23:01] | Johnsel: | on my backend+frontend box it works like a charm |
| [09:23:18] | Johnsel: | but on my frontend only i can't seem to get it perfectly working |
| [09:23:21] | Johnsel: | tv works alright |
| [09:23:23] | Johnsel: | but |
| [09:23:38] | Johnsel: | trying to open music or movies doesn't work |
| [09:23:52] | hads: | \n != (,|.) |
| [09:23:59] | justinh: | videos & music are not streamed from the backend |
| [09:24:20] | justinh: | if you want to use the same on all frontends, use a network share |
| [09:24:42] | justinh: | export the videos & music directories and mount them to the same path on the remote frontend |
| [09:25:14] | Johnsel: | oh hehe |
| [09:25:17] | Johnsel: | that explains |
| [09:25:20] | justinh: | e.g. if your movies are stored in /mnt/myth/video on the other system, mount the share to /mnt/myth/video on the frontend |
| [09:25:21] | Johnsel: | letś see then |
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| [09:33:32] | laga: | justinh: maybe a bit late for you, but http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/5265 might have been the cause for your epia problems :) |
| [09:34:28] | justinh: | definitely too late! that board is now with some other sucker :D |
| [09:34:49] | laga: | :) |
| [09:35:10] | justinh: | wow. simple fix too |
| [09:37:22] | laga: | yeah. i've just spent some time looking at the changeset till i realized he only re-ordered the code |
| [09:43:05] | justinh: | oh bugger. my backend thinks I still have mythtv packages installed |
| [09:43:38] | justinh: | that'll teach me to forget to uninstall packages before building from source. oops |
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| [09:48:22] | laga: | eww. |
| [09:49:24] | justinh: | yeah I forgot. ended up having to clean up /usr/bin of all mythtv stuff too |
| [09:49:48] | justinh: | should do a make uninstall on the source stuff, then remove the packages |
| [09:50:23] | justinh: | unless there's a way to fool the package manager into thinking they're not installed anymore |
| [10:01:34] | justinh: | might just do a clean install when I upgrade |
| [10:01:45] | justinh: | prolly easier in the long run |
| [10:08:56] | justinh: | I'll still build from source though |
| [10:12:39] | laga: | hum |
| [10:12:51] | laga: | the nova t-500 must be a nice piece of hardware in linux. not. |
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| [10:15:23] | justinh: | I thought all the nasty usb disconnects have been sorted out now |
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| [10:16:56] | laga: | not in ubuntu hardy for some reason, although the fix for that was applied. gutsy was working fine |
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| [10:24:01] | justinh: | !trout JochenKuehner because-it-feels-good-to |
| [10:24:01] | ** MythLogBot slaps JochenKuehner with a because-it-feels-good-to trout on behalf of justinh... ** | |
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| [10:29:00] | Johnsel: | hehe |
| [10:29:06] | Johnsel: | thanks justinh! |
| [10:29:12] | Johnsel: | got a fully working frontend now :D |
| [10:36:08] | laga: | justinh: hehe. multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign.. |
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| [11:16:02] | Dibblah: | ISTR that code is new, so it's a regression from 0.20. |
| [11:16:30] | Dibblah: | (The XVMC / stuttering issue) |
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| [11:17:30] | justinh: | right, so wouldn't have made a jot of difference to the lame-ass epia frontend anyway |
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| [11:17:53] | laga: | yay. |
| [11:17:55] | justinh: | didn't feel a thing parting with that board :) |
| [11:17:59] | Dibblah: | "new" as in after 0.20, so that doesn't limit it much ;) |
| [11:18:05] | laga: | my database crashed and mysqld won't start. \o/ |
| [11:18:22] | ** Dibblah just got a few PS3 bits to play with :) ** | |
| [11:18:30] | Dibblah: | 200w @idle, though :( |
| [11:18:59] | Dibblah: | For anyone that's interested, it's possible to power a PS3 motherboard using a PC PSU :) |
| [11:19:05] | laga: | nice |
| [11:19:32] | justinh: | 200W at idle?! |
| [11:19:38] | Dibblah: | Indeed. |
| [11:19:44] | Dibblah: | These are 1st gen boards. |
| [11:19:48] | justinh: | jeebus |
| [11:19:54] | Dibblah: | 90nm Cell, etc. |
| [11:20:24] | Dibblah: | May be less with a proper PSU. |
| [11:20:31] | Dibblah: | But not much less. |
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| [12:27:59] | d110: | hi, I've just installed mythtv 0.21 and I cannot record anything through the program guide |
| [12:28:14] | d110: | if I hit record whilst watching stuff, that works |
| [12:28:23] | d110: | I have a full EPG using shepherd |
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| [12:29:21] | justinh: | do you just mean that your recordings don't show up in 'watch recordings' ? |
| [12:29:27] | jarle: | d110: If you watch the EPG on the frontend, does it say that the show will be recorded? |
| [12:29:58] | d110: | justinh, they are not showing the recordings |
| [12:30:04] | justinh: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Frequent . . . ecordings.3F |
| [12:30:26] | d110: | jarle no it doesn't show |
| [12:31:14] | d110: | justinh if i record when i'm watching live tv though they show in the recordings |
| [12:31:18] | jarle: | Have you *ever* been able to record anything on your box or are you totally new to myth? |
| [12:31:33] | d110: | yes, many many things |
| [12:31:47] | d110: | i can record, if i'm watching livetv and hit the record button it will record |
| [12:31:54] | d110: | it's only when i'm in the program guide |
| [12:31:55] | jarle: | d110: so recording from epg used to work before? |
| [12:32:00] | d110: | yes |
| [12:32:43] | d110: | and if I hit record in livetv mode then it will show an 'S' in the EPG |
| [12:33:02] | d110: | but I cannot go to the EPG and hit 'r' on something to record |
| [12:33:23] | d110: | nether can i hit enter and say record any channel any time and save |
| [12:33:33] | justinh: | and the logs say? |
| [12:33:50] | jarle: | And you do not see your scheduled recording in the list of upcomming recordings either? |
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| [12:34:40] | justinh: | sounds like something 'video source' related |
| [12:35:20] | d110: | jarle yes it does NOT show in the upcomming recordings |
| [12:35:57] | d110: | justinh, I just tried to remove my video card through setup and reinstall it |
| [12:36:18] | d110: | The logs, mythfrontend doesn't say anything much |
| [12:36:38] | d110: | mythbackend keeps saying 'writeStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket' |
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| [12:37:52] | justinh: | and mythbackend? |
| [12:37:56] | justinh: | oops |
| [12:38:10] | justinh: | still, not much info to go on |
| [12:38:13] | justinh: | never mind eh |
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| [12:40:10] | jarle: | I have a problem with multirec in 0.21-fixes: I have two tuner cards set to allow 3 recordings each. From live TV i start a recording on 6,5 and 4 (all on one card), I start recording on 3 (on the other card) and all recordings work just fine. When I start a recording on 2, the recording on 3 stops, when I start a new recording on 1, the recording on 2 stops.... Guess this might be an issue with input groups? |
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| [12:43:32] | jarle: | Do I need to setup input groups for such a setup? |
| [12:44:33] | armbar: | I've been having issues with nuvexport not finishing and having to kill mythtranscode to get it to end. I've run nuvexport-xvid --debud and here is the output. I see ffmpeg segfault but thats it. http://pastebin.com/d6d609a62 Anyone have any idea where to go next? |
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| [13:34:03] | peque: | Is there any way – if only some channels EPG are moved 2hours behind ??? So some channels come in with the rigth EPG/TIME info – and others from same grabber are moved 2hours behind? |
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| [13:47:08] | Lynet: | armbar: I guess you could try to run ffmpeg manually to see if it segfaults then too. If so, the next step would probably be to look at the coredump with something like gdb to try to figure out why it crashes. |
| [13:50:47] | Lynet: | Anyhoo. Does ahyone know what I would have to do to set up a user job to export to RSS? My portable media player has a podcatcher, so it would be great to automate it. |
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| [13:55:27] | elg: | Lynet: probably the easiest approach is to copy/transcode into a specific directory, then have a script which updates an RSS (xml) file |
| [13:56:22] | elg: | Lynet: if you're a coder, rss isn't terribly complicated. podcast rss is kind of picky, but doable, esp. if you use a working template as an example. you could do it in whatever your favorite language is, even bash probably |
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| [13:58:14] | Lynet: | elg: True. Just wondering if soneone had already done it. Actually, would be excellent if a generic export function was merged into mythtv (including stuff like autoexpire etc). |
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| [14:25:33] | Aval0n-: | anyone know how to point the xorg.conf to an edid.bin file? |
| [14:25:41] | Aval0n-: | so it doesn't ask for it from the TV but just uses the one specified? |
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| [14:28:25] | Aval0n-: | Option "CustomEDID" "DFP-0:/etc/X11/edid.bin" ? |
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| [14:31:28] | GreyFoxx: | Man this is annoying, my new board with inboard video doesn't seem to detect the DVI output at all |
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| [14:52:48] | jams: | what board is it? |
| [14:55:32] | GreyFoxx: | asus m2npv-vm |
| [14:55:36] | GreyFoxx: | just picked it up friday |
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| [14:56:19] | GreyFoxx: | I've put my LCD tv and projector on it and according to X it only sees the CRT interface (which nothing is connected too) |
| [14:56:50] | GreyFoxx: | I've tried putting in ConnectMonitor and such but it complains that the interface doesn't exist |
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| [15:23:11] | ** iamlindoro__ contemplates a move back to trunk, builds trunk, and chickens out at make install. ** | |
| [15:24:18] | Lynet: | iamlindoro: You building from svn? |
| [15:24:45] | iamlindoro__: | Lynet: that's where trunk comes from ;) |
| [15:25:30] | Lynet: | iamlindoro: Could be cvs or git. ;-p Anyway, is trunk fairly stable or does it blow up occationally? |
| [15:26:09] | Dibblah: | Trunk is still not yet stable. |
| [15:26:23] | Dibblah: | Massive moves on both QT4 + MythUI migrations. |
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| [15:27:27] | iamlindoro__: | Lynet, not sure how one would get Myth via cvs or git since neither exist for it. Anyway, I've long been a trunk user but there's a reason I won't update right now. As Dibblah says, only people who are in it for bug-squashing ought to be using it. I'm holding off on installing, just making sure all my build scripts still work. |
| [15:27:52] | Dibblah: | Unless, of course, you're Jochen. |
| [15:28:03] | Dibblah: | And don't mind being laughed at privately. |
| [15:28:34] | Lynet: | Me thinks me detects an internal joke. |
| [15:28:37] | iamlindoro__: | I don't mind being laughed at... so long as it's publicly ;) |
| [15:28:59] | Dibblah: | Just one user that likes to be over the bleeding edge. |
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| [15:30:59] | Lynet: | Speaking of development.. Is anything being done about making a generic export thingie? (e.g., to set up custom transcode settings and then use them to export to f.ex an rss feed or smb share for stuff like portable players etc) |
| [15:32:24] | iamlindoro__: | Lynet, I would expect since all of that can be implemented in < 100 lines or so of a script + a user job, nobody is likely to bother adding it to Myth proper |
| [15:33:17] | iamlindoro__: | But anyone can submit a patch and if it passes muster and has a compelling purpose, it would get added, I'm sue |
| [15:33:18] | iamlindoro__: | sure |
| [15:33:26] | Lynet: | iamlindoro: Well, it can. But it would be a lot more user friendly to be able to do that from the mythtv ui instead of messing around with nuvexport, user jobs, etc. |
| [15:33:57] | Lynet: | Oh, not to mention having it integrated with autoexpire. |
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| [15:34:36] | iamlindoro__: | Attach a patch to a ticket, that's how things like that usually get added |
| [15:35:08] | jams: | there was talk of adding that to mytharchive |
| [15:35:12] | Lynet: | iamlindoro: Is there some documentation for devs, or is it "use the source, Luke". |
| [15:35:20] | jams: | so far nothing has happened about it. |
| [15:35:33] | iamlindoro__: | Lynet, There's dev guidelines in the wiki on trac, but more the latter than the former :) |
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| [15:36:48] | Lynet: | jams: In mytharchive would be ok. But I would prefer something that can be easily added to a recording job. |
| [15:38:36] | jams: | it would be a nice feature, and useful in both spots. |
| [15:41:46] | ** Lynet polishes his crystal ball and sees apt-get install svn and a lot of headscratching in his future. ;-p ** | |
| [15:43:07] | iamlindoro__: | Lynet, And good news for you, trunk is more head-scratchy than ever these days :) |
| [15:45:21] | Lynet: | I should use trunk, then? Or are the differences between trunk and .21 small enough to make backp.. eh. forward-porting fairly easy? |
| [15:45:45] | iamlindoro__: | The differences now are pretty huge |
| [15:45:58] | iamlindoro__: | MythUI port, qt4 port, etc. |
| [15:46:24] | iamlindoro__: | trunk is in a state of serious flux.... just cautioning you not to install it over your working, production system |
| [15:47:30] | iamlindoro__: | as from reading the dev list and bug reports, it's prone to, erm... not to put this indelicately... moderate crashiness at the moment. |
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| [15:49:54] | Anduin: | Lynet: There are DB changes (converting to real utf8 fields) that make moving back difficult unless it is to a backup. |
| [15:50:42] | Lynet: | Y'all doing a great job scaring me away, at least. :) |
| [15:51:33] | Anduin: | If fixing and testing sound like fun I encourage you to upgrade |
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| [16:03:09] | iamlindoro__: | Wonder if my HD-PVR will *actually* ship Thursday... |
| [16:03:38] | Aval0n-: | hey iamlindoro |
| [16:03:43] | iamlindoro__: | hola |
| [16:03:48] | Aval0n-: | what's new |
| [16:03:51] | Aval0n- is now known as Aval0n | |
| [16:04:04] | iamlindoro__: | same old same old. Work, bills, hookers, blow |
| [16:04:09] | Aval0n: | lol |
| [16:04:32] | Anduin: | iamlindoro__: If you don't want to wait the few minutes it will take to make sure the build works, replacing mythtv/ with libmyth/ is what should be done. |
| [16:05:14] | iamlindoro__: | Anduin, yeah, got it fixed before I mentioned it, thanks |
| [16:05:47] | iamlindoro__: | I'm not even doing make install so no real issue :) |
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| [16:14:06] | Aval0n: | hey iamlindoro, do you know if the mythtv internal player auto zooms on mkv stuff? |
| [16:14:14] | Aval0n: | cause I get no black bars top and bottom with it |
| [16:14:23] | Aval0n: | when I use mplayer -fs -zoom I do get letterboxing |
| [16:14:47] | iamlindoro__: | Aval0n, It uses the same settings for your TV playback, including fill and aspect ratio |
| [16:15:00] | Aval0n: | hmm |
| [16:15:43] | Aval0n: | the letterboxing is probably more accurate... |
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| [16:15:54] | Aval0n: | I think the original hd-dvd content probably was letterboxed |
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| [16:16:15] | iamlindoro__: | Try adjusting fill and aspect, should be simple to set it properly |
| [16:17:31] | Aval0n: | in mplayer? |
| [16:17:33] | Aval0n: | or myth |
| [16:17:53] | iamlindoro__: | You can adjust them in both... change whichever you want |
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| [16:50:48] | justdave: | so I got my Mac Mini and have it all set up with Mythbuntu on it... stuff seems to work great except that xorg seems to be mis-detecting the aspect ratio on the composite video output |
| [16:50:55] | justdave: | anyone have any idea how to fix that? |
| [16:51:14] | justdave: | the xorg.conf file has a bunch of funky auto-detect stuff in it instead of the modelines and whatnot I'm used to seeing |
| [16:51:49] | justdave: | and the composite output works out of the box, which is awesome, except that it sets the screen width too wide, so the right-hand side of the screen is cut off |
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| [16:52:16] | justdave: | (it's a standard-def TV it's hooked up to, and it's trying to pipe an HD aspect ratio with the proper screen height to it) |
| [16:52:45] | justdave: | I didn't know a composite video signal even allowed an HD aspect ratio, though that was a fixed-ratio protocol |
| [16:52:48] | laga: | the aspect ratio? hum |
| [16:52:58] | laga: | maybe the DPI setting isn't correct? |
| [16:57:43] | justdave: | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/416115 <- there's what the xorg.conf looks like |
| [16:57:54] | justdave: | notice the lack of actual configuration on anything. :) |
| [16:58:00] | laga: | check the dpi setting to "xdpyinfo" |
| [16:58:07] | laga: | most stuff is auto-detected. |
| [16:58:21] | laga: | "man intel" to find out about available options, assuming you're using the intel driver |
| [16:58:23] | justdave: | how do I set that? |
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| [16:58:36] | justdave: | is that an Option thing? |
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| [17:00:52] | justdave: | ooh, I can set margins on the TV out :) |
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| [17:03:04] | GreyFoxx: | Man, what a difference in playback since upgrading the main frontend |
| [17:03:16] | GreyFoxx: | now I have 1 video that stutters, but it's not a cpu issue |
| [17:03:47] | justdave: | I'm not seeing anything applicable in "man intel" though |
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| [17:05:50] | justdave: | (unrelated) wonder if there's a command-line option I can pass to the kernel to get it to use the TV-out for usplash |
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| [17:06:19] | justdave: | right now I get the EFI bootsplash on the TV, then the grub menu, then it completely goes dark until xorg starts |
| [17:06:38] | justdave: | but when I shut down, I get the usplash shutdown graphics right to the end until it powers off |
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| [17:08:37] | laga: | no clue.. for my sis tv-out, the sisfb framebuffer driver can drive the tv-out so i used that.. |
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| [17:09:41] | MaxeyPad2: | so if I have a really powerful box that I use for my backend box (dual core 6000+ with 4gb of ram) can I use an intel chipset based video dual core laptop to watch high quality x264 |
| [17:10:53] | laga: | justdave: maybe you can force whatever framebuffer driver it uses to use the tv-out. you can also make it use a different FB driver by passing the correct boot option. but i'm not sure if t-out support |
| [17:11:02] | laga: | tv-out support is implemented in the FB driver. |
| [17:11:12] | laga: | maybe it'll get better with in-kernel modesetting? |
| [17:12:52] | justdave: | it seems to be availble to usplash during shutdown so I figure it's supported |
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| [17:13:13] | laga: | justdave: it's probably because the X driver configures the chip for tv-out and doesn't reset that. |
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| [17:15:52] | laga: | justdave: you can try experimenting with the boot options, eg take out the "splash" argument. maybe usplash does nasty things |
| [17:17:01] | bobgill: | is there a way to record a program 4 nights/week? I can't see how to set this |
| [17:19:03] | justdave: | set it up four times, once for each day, with a "record in this time slot each week" |
| [17:19:17] | justdave: | that's my guess, though it's an annoying workaround |
| [17:19:45] | justdave: | that's one of those things where you wonder if it crosses the line between usefulness and bloated UI |
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| [17:19:56] | kaktuspalme: | hi all |
| [17:20:12] | justdave: | tricky to come up with UI for all those fancy recording options that's manageable via remote control |
| [17:20:42] | kaktuspalme: | i want a media center pc, do I need a quadcore to record dvb-s2 Video? |
| [17:22:10] | laga: | kaktuspalme: recording from DVB doesn't take a lot of cpu. DVB-S2 isn't supported yet, though. |
| [17:22:51] | kaktuspalme: | laga, there are experimental drivers out there, i thought it works experimental |
| [17:23:36] | justdave: | hmmm, okay... |
| [17:23:39] | laga: | kaktuspalme: mythtv doesn't support that API yet. with an experimental patch, it can do DVB-S using the new drivers though |
| [17:23:47] | justdave: | Xorg.log says |
| [17:23:48] | justdave: | (II) intel(0): Output TV using initial mode 1024x768 |
| [17:24:05] | justdave: | so wtf does the desktop output to it at 1280x768? :) |
| [17:24:13] | kaktuspalme: | laga, ok, then i have to wait |
| [17:25:27] | justdave: | (II) intel(0): Output TMDS-1 using initial mode 1280x800 |
| [17:25:38] | justdave: | TMDS-1 is the DVI output |
| [17:25:56] | justdave: | wonder if xorg thinks it's outputting to DVI instead of TV |
| [17:26:53] | kaktuspalme: | laga, but, whats this? http://www.pchdtv.com/ |
| [17:27:10] | laga: | kaktuspalme: USA stuff |
| [17:27:33] | kaktuspalme: | laga, not a DVB-S2 card? |
| [17:27:50] | laga: | no, ATSC |
| [17:28:15] | kaktuspalme: | ok thx |
| [17:28:19] | kaktuspalme: | damn :) |
| [17:28:21] | GreyFoxx: | Bah, turns out my new MB dvi out is going to require me to solder on a resister to get it working with my setup |
| [17:28:29] | GreyFoxx: | hmmm solder it or replace board ... |
| [17:29:05] | laga: | GreyFoxx: the interesting thing is: how did you find out you need to solder? :) |
| [17:29:26] | xris: | Woot. Looks like I'm going to get a logitech Harmony One from bzzagent.com.. Will finally enter the world of Harmony owners (which I guess means MythTV may get some better Harmony scripts from me) |
| [17:30:01] | GreyFoxx: | laga: I am a google ninja :) |
| [17:30:09] | laga: | GreyFoxx: i bow to you |
| [17:30:24] | GreyFoxx: | even have a picture of what needs to be done heh |
| [17:31:15] | laga: | xris: wow. bzzagent.com keeps scrolling up in firefox 3 here. :) |
| [17:34:00] | janneg: | just a short notice for everyone not in #mythtv |
| [17:36:34] | janneg: | I'm writing the linux driver for the Hauppauge HD PVR. I'll realease tomorrow or the day after tomorrow at a first preview of the driver with a patch adding support in mythtv for it |
| [17:36:47] | justdave: | so xorg.conf apparently won't let me specify a specific display mode to use in the config file unless I also define the display mode |
| [17:36:59] | justdave: | so if I want to override it at all I can't use any of the autodetect stuff? |
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| [17:37:02] | justdave: | sucks |
| [17:37:14] | xris: | janneg: nice. |
| [17:37:15] | sphery: | bendailey: lol, you always just get here too late... ;) |
| [17:37:18] | GreyFoxx: | janneg: You are making a lot of users happy :) |
| [17:37:24] | iamlindoro__: | janneg, Way to go, by the way |
| [17:37:46] | bendailey: | sphery: yep but now I can go check the irc log |
| [17:37:46] | xris: | j-rod was pimping out their new HD component encoding device at linuxfest this weekend. |
| [17:38:04] | xris: | shiny.. :) http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/harmony_tru . . . =mb|4274||hp |
| [17:38:14] | GreyFoxx: | xris: howwas the show ? |
| [17:38:58] | xris: | really good |
| [17:39:12] | iamlindoro__: | xris, Is this the other device mentioned on the users list a while back, or a third device altogether? |
| [17:39:19] | sphery: | hmmm... Beirdo's log location is no longer in the topic... |
| [17:39:22] | xris: | I don't think as many people as last year, but 40–50 people showed up for my presentation. jarod, kormoc and I just sat up front and answered questions for an hour |
| [17:39:27] | sphery: | bendailey: just in case, http://mythtv.beirdo.ca/ircLog/channel/1/2008-04-28 |
| [17:39:40] | bendailey: | yep I read it already that is great news |
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| [17:40:28] | Beirdo: | !help |
| [17:40:41] | Beirdo: | good, it's still alive and kicking :) |
| [17:40:51] | sphery: | xris: did you get flyers there somehow? |
| [17:41:20] | xris: | wonder how to get coloquy to show the total number of users in a channel. |
| [17:41:39] | sphery: | Beirdo: yeah, not a change to the bot, but we used to mention the log location in the topic |
| [17:41:45] | iamlindoro__: | xris, I have colloquy, it's under the room name, no? |
| [17:41:51] | iamlindoro__: | channel |
| [17:41:52] | iamlindoro__: | sorry ;) |
| [17:41:56] | Beirdo: | I don't recall having it in there, but that's OK :) |
| [17:42:17] | sphery: | maybe I'm thinking of the join message or something (haven't seen that in a while ;) |
| [17:42:34] | Beirdo: | ah yes, that it does |
| [17:42:50] | Beirdo: | at most once per 24h |
| [17:43:06] | Beirdo: | (per user) |
| [17:43:42] | sphery: | I've been logged in for a long time (now that I finally got the memleak "in irssi" (actually a stupid plugin I dl'ed and didn't check) fixed) |
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| [17:44:05] | xris: | iamlindoro__: "under" where? channel name is in a tab for me. |
| [17:44:20] | Beirdo: | cool :) |
| [17:44:23] | kormoc: | xris, xchat-aqua! :P |
| [17:44:38] | Beirdo: | anyways, I gotta work on me rentacoder.com projects :) |
| [17:44:46] | Beirdo: | getting paid is good, mmkay? |
| [17:44:47] | Beirdo: | :) |
| [17:44:54] | sphery: | have fun |
| [17:45:01] | xris: | Beirdo: cool |
| [17:45:11] | Beirdo: | will do.. One perl and one ruby scraper coming up :) |
| [17:45:19] | kaktuspalme: | janneg, cool, nice, does it support DVB-S2? |
| [17:45:25] | Beirdo: | it's actually fun stuff too |
| [17:45:53] | Beirdo: | and OMG, my development server's being used for development :) |
| [17:46:35] | sphery: | maybe I should rent Beirdo as a coder to do the new database backup restore script for #4760 |
| [17:46:50] | sphery: | I'm not having any fun with it (though the backup script was a lot of fun) |
| [17:46:54] | janneg: | kaktuspalme: if your DVB-S STB supports DVB-S2 and has component output |
| [17:46:57] | Beirdo: | I've already done 2 ruby on rails apps (fairly simple), two ruby-based scrapers, etc |
| [17:47:00] | Beirdo: | heh |
| [17:47:04] | janneg: | kaktuspalme: http://www.hauppauge.com/site/products/data_hd_pvr.html |
| [17:47:16] | Beirdo: | I need to remind myself of how to to stuff in PHP again though |
| [17:47:28] | Beirdo: | too many scripting languages makes the brain hurt |
| [17:47:48] | kormoc: | Beirdo, that's why you should just stick with php ;) |
| [17:48:04] | Beirdo: | hehe |
| [17:48:06] | Beirdo: | no |
| [17:48:14] | Beirdo: | if I have to choose ONE right now, it's ruby |
| [17:48:34] | Beirdo: | but I'd rather do em all |
| [17:48:38] | sphery: | rubies are more valuable than pe(a)rls |
| [17:48:44] | Beirdo: | but please no ASP.NET |
| [17:48:56] | kormoc: | janneg, evil folks you are, making me spend more money ;) j-rod totally convinced me to buy one yesterday |
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| [17:49:44] | sphery: | I could get one--of course, I'd have to have my Myth box output the component video to it since I don't have any other HDTV decoders with output (the one in my TV doesn't do output) |
| [17:49:56] | sphery: | so it kind of defeats the purpose. |
| [17:50:11] | Beirdo: | anyways, gonna do some preliminaries on one of those projects. Just finished 2 on Saturday, got 2 new ones today. Muhahah |
| [17:50:29] | ** Beirdo does Beirdo & ** | |
| [17:50:44] | laga: | hum |
| [17:50:47] | laga: | did he just fork? |
| [17:50:59] | Beirdo: | background, silly :) |
| [17:51:01] | kormoc: | he backgrounded himself |
| [17:51:57] | laga: | yes, after spawning a new process ;) |
| [17:53:30] | kormoc: | laga, there's a difference between Beirdo the user and Beirdo the process :P |
| [17:54:01] | ** laga will be quiet now ;) ** | |
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| [17:55:45] | janneg: | well, I hope the component inputs will work since I'm in the same situation as sphery. my graphic card is the only device with component output |
| [17:56:58] | laga: | janneg: no cheap dvd player? |
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| [17:57:08] | janneg: | no |
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| [17:59:58] | Beirdo: | GACK! |
| [18:00:07] | Beirdo: | now I have *3* projects on the go |
| [18:00:21] | Beirdo: | when it rains, it friggin pours :) |
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| [18:00:43] | kormoc: | janneg, I'm confused, why would myth output to the device? |
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| [18:01:59] | janneg: | kormoc: why not? yeah, feedback loops!!1!111! |
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| [18:02:37] | laga: | janneg: jochen, what have you done to janne? |
| [18:02:59] | janneg: | kormoc: sorry to confuse you, there is no sense in it beyond testing the component input |
| [18:03:10] | kormoc: | ahh, gotcha |
| [18:03:15] | kormoc: | No worries :) |
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| [18:07:35] | jams: | oh i might need to get that harmony remote |
| [18:07:52] | beandog: | those things are a huge ripoff. |
| [18:08:04] | beandog: | that is, if youre only looking to control multiple devices. |
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| [18:09:48] | jams: | well previous harmonys had awful button feel/layout this one certainly looks like they addressed those issues |
| [18:10:04] | kormoc: | it looks sharp |
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| [18:14:35] | iamlindoro__: | xris, sorry, just getting back from an errand-- I have Colloquy in a mode similar to XChat, w/ channel names on the left... thought it was the default, though... anyway, on the left the # of occupants is under the channel name |
| [18:15:00] | the[V]oid_: | Hi, I have a fresh installation of MythTV and everytime I head for watching Live-TV I get an error saying "Error was encountered while displaying video" |
| [18:15:05] | xris: | ah, interesting. wonder why it doesn't do that with the tabs-on-bottom view, and user list docked on the right. |
| [18:15:08] | the[V]oid_: | Logfile says: "Couldn't find a matching decoder for: /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/1012_20080428175441.mpg" |
| [18:15:09] | xris: | I see the users, just not the total number. |
| [18:15:40] | the[V]oid_: | I have googled a lot but haven't found a solution, I don't know what to do next, can somebody help please? |
| [18:16:06] | kormoc: | the[V]oid_, using a site like pastebin.ca, putting up the entire frontend log would likely be much more helpful |
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| [18:19:22] | keith4: | on a PVR 250, can I use myth with the cable tuner, and put a CCTV camera on the composite in, to use with another application? |
| [18:19:30] | keith4: | or does myth take control of the entire card? |
| [18:19:53] | the[V]oid_: | The log's are here: http://evoid.de/mythbackend.log and http://evoid.de/mythfrontend.log |
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| [18:26:09] | kormoc: | keith4, that card can only record one input at a time no matter what |
| [18:30:17] | the[V]oid_: | with line numbers: http://pastebin.com/f4608b1b9 (frontend) and http://pastebin.com/f68418ef4 (backend), the error is in the frontend-log in line 355/356 |
| [18:32:52] | the[V]oid_: | It repeats a few times. Anybody has an idea where to start? =/ |
| [18:41:40] | keith4: | kormoc: ok, so maybe I could set it up so that "channel 1" in mythtv is the composite input? |
| [18:43:19] | the[V]oid_: | the backend log isn't up to date, the logfile leaked g+w chmod: http://pastebin.com/f11830368 (backend) http://pastebin.com/f315ad95f (frontend) |
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| [18:51:19] | Aval0n: | can anyone recommend a good brand power supply for a c2d machine? |
| [18:51:29] | Aval0n: | I used to like PC power and cooling |
| [18:51:43] | beandog: | seasonic |
| [18:51:48] | iamlindoro__: | I have a zalman that is all heatpip cooled, nice and quiet |
| [18:51:51] | iamlindoro__: | heatpipe |
| [18:51:55] | beandog: | zalman is good. |
| [18:52:15] | laga: | i hear seasonic is good, quiet & efficient. i don't own one myself, though. |
| [18:57:40] | Aval0n: | thanks |
| [18:58:35] | kormoc: | I still love pc power and cooling |
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| [18:58:53] | MaxeyPad2: | so if I have a really powerful box that I use for my backend box (dual core 6000+ with 4gb of ram) can I use an intel chipset based video dual core laptop to watch high quality x264 |
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| [19:00:03] | kormoc: | MaxeyPad2, the backend doesn't do any work for playback, so that's decently meaningless |
| [19:00:44] | MaxeyPad2: | k |
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| [19:00:59] | MaxeyPad2: | well either way will the laptop with the intel video chipset work? |
| [19:01:33] | asathoor: | why do I have to restart myth-backend after a mythfilldatabase? |
| [19:01:46] | iamlindoro__: | asathoor, You don't. |
| [19:02:18] | asathoor: | well, if I dont, the programmelistings won't show up... |
| [19:02:40] | iamlindoro__: | asathoor, something broken over there then :) |
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| [19:03:00] | Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v stuarta | |
| [19:03:03] | asathoor: | ok ... but where ? |
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| [19:04:27] | iamlindoro__: | Since I see you're in .dk my first inclination is your XMLtv grabber or the way you're using mythfilldatabase with it, but I've got no way of knowing for sure |
| [19:05:49] | justdave: | aha, figured out what the problem is with my screen resolution... |
| [19:05:55] | justdave: | both screens are active |
| [19:06:00] | justdave: | and overlayed on top of each other |
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| [19:06:14] | justdave: | Xorg is seeing Screen 0 as the DVI port and Screen 1 as the TV out |
| [19:06:28] | justdave: | DVI is set to 1280x800, TV is set to 1024x768 |
| [19:06:40] | justdave: | and TV out is getting the upper left corner of what's going to the DVI port |
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| [19:06:54] | justdave: | so it's a screen arrangement thing not a resolution/aspect ratio thing |
| [19:07:22] | puzzled: | hi |
| [19:07:35] | justdave: | I could swear there was a way to adjust that but I'm not finding it |
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| [19:07:38] | justdave: | (in the GUI) |
| [19:16:42] | justdave: | apparently this is something I can configure in mythfrontend? |
| [19:16:50] | justdave: | mythfrontend's log has this in it: |
| [19:16:51] | justdave: | 2008-04–28 15:09:24.144 Total desktop dim: 1280x800, over 2 screen[s]. |
| [19:16:51] | justdave: | 2008-04–28 15:09:24.144 Screen 0 dim: 1280x800. |
| [19:16:51] | justdave: | 2008-04–28 15:09:24.145 Screen 1 dim: 1024x768. |
| [19:16:51] | justdave: | 2008-04–28 15:09:24.145 Primary screen 0. |
| [19:17:01] | justdave: | which leads me to believe myth knows about it :) |
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| [19:17:30] | iamlindoro__: | justdave, you can run the "Screen wizards" to fit mythfrontend on your TV |
| [19:17:38] | iamlindoro__: | utilities/setup->Screen wizards IIRC |
| [19:17:58] | iamlindoro__: | assuming .21, that is |
| [19:19:03] | justdave: | that won't let me set it narrower than 1120 for some reason |
| [19:19:11] | justdave: | it stops when it gets to that size and won't go narrower |
| [19:19:42] | iamlindoro__: | Hmmm, that's weird... justinh would know why that was, but he's not it |
| [19:19:43] | iamlindoro__: | in |
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| [19:20:24] | justdave: | and if it's set for less than the total screen size it shows up in a window instead of being in full screen mode |
| [19:20:34] | justdave: | so I get the xcfe menu bar at the top |
| [19:20:53] | Anduin: | It wasn't intentional (the buggy sizing) |
| [19:21:38] | justdave: | if I save it and go back in then it lets me continue shrinking it |
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| [19:21:42] | mkrufky: | bah! |
| [19:21:43] | mkrufky: | Launchpad bug 220857 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24 "linuxtv.org mercurial repository wont build against hardy kernel due to "disagrees about version of symbol videobuf_*" [Low,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/220857 |
| [19:21:45] | justdave: | got it down to 1024x768 |
| [19:21:53] | GreyFoxx: | justdave: tell xfce to auto hide the menu bars |
| [19:22:03] | justdave: | except I still have the xfce... yeah, that |
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| [19:23:16] | justdave: | ok, menu is on autohide |
| [19:23:27] | kormoc: | So I know this can be fixed, I just forget how. At the top of my recordings, the vbi data is shown in a 1 or 2 pixel snowy row, anyone know what gets tweaked to remove that? |
| [19:23:31] | justdave: | it shows a 3-pixel bar at the top that turns into the menu when you mouse over it :( |
| [19:23:46] | GreyFoxx: | then don't mouse over it ? :) |
| [19:23:53] | GreyFoxx: | Or find out how to turn it off all together? |
| [19:23:57] | justdave: | I also have the background image visible where the menu bar used to be above mythtv's window, because it positioned below the menu bar's full height |
| [19:24:24] | GreyFoxx: | kormoc: Personally I ignore it, or on my TV increased overscan to hide it :) |
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| [19:24:47] | GreyFoxx: | might be able to use the crop filter on it though or one of the overscan settings in myth |
| [19:24:52] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, heh, yeah, just looked a little off when demoing over the weekend :P |
| [19:24:57] | GreyFoxx: | heh |
| [19:25:04] | kormoc: | hrm, I'll take a look at that. thanks |
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| [19:26:49] | justdave: | ok, quit and restart myth fixed that |
| [19:27:16] | justdave: | myth telling the system to reboot apparently doesn't work though |
| [19:27:32] | justdave: | all it does is quit back to xcfe |
| [19:27:50] | kormoc: | GreyFoxx, ouch, the crop filter goes in 16 pixel steps, that's a bit of overkill :P |
| [19:27:53] | GreyFoxx: | myth calls whatever app/script you have configured to halt the system with the fedault being /sbin/halt |
| [19:28:07] | GreyFoxx: | and halt wont shutdonw if the user calling it isn't root |
| [19:28:17] | laga: | in mythbuntu 8.04, we've patched that to use HAL by default |
| [19:28:27] | clever: | GreyFoxx: i set mine to be 'sudo halt' |
| [19:28:28] | GreyFoxx: | you can easily do up a setuid shell or wrap it in sudo or something |
| [19:28:29] | laga: | increases the chance of it working OOTV :) |
| [19:28:36] | clever: | and i told sudo to let mythtv run halt and reboot without a pw |
| [19:28:37] | laga: | OOTB* :) |
| [19:28:44] | justdave: | I'm on 8.04 |
| [19:28:51] | justdave: | using mythbuntu out of the box |
| [19:29:11] | laga: | justdave: it'll only be the default for fresh installs. so if you kept your DB, you need to change it manually |
| [19:29:34] | justdave: | it is a fresh install |
| [19:29:43] | justdave: | existing DB, but this hostname hasn't been in it before |
| [19:29:50] | laga: | odd. what's in /var/log/mythtv/mythfrontend.log ? |
| [19:30:06] | justdave: | reboot command is set to /usr/share/mythtv/myth-reboot.sh |
| [19:30:36] | clever: | never seen that before:O |
| [19:31:03] | clever: | and it isnt part of the source(in the qt4 branch atleast) |
| [19:31:11] | laga: | clever: guess why. :) |
| [19:31:17] | clever: | custom script maybe:P |
| [19:31:19] | laga: | it's part of the mythbuntu packages |
| [19:31:22] | clever: | ahhhh |
| [19:31:26] | justdave: | Error org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy: org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot-multiple-sessions auth_admin <-- (action, result) |
| [19:31:32] | clever: | throw him at #mythbuntu then:P |
| [19:31:41] | clever: | or 'steal' it into svn:P |
| [19:31:57] | kormoc: | clever, you smoking something? |
| [19:32:12] | clever: | just bore |
| [19:32:19] | laga: | justdave: are you logged in twice? eg over ssh? |
| [19:32:32] | justdave: | yeah, I'm in via ssh also actually |
| [19:32:42] | clever: | d |
| [19:32:43] | laga: | i'd like to have some better integration with HAL, at least for the shutdown stuff, in mythfrontend. maybe i'll try to do that. |
| [19:33:05] | laga: | justdave: logging out might help. i've seen reports where it still wont work, though... maybe the session is still locked or something |
| [19:34:53] | keith4: | kormoc: let me know if you figure out a solution to the few rows of snow pixels at the top |
| [19:35:16] | kormoc: | heh, kk |
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| [19:37:28] | justdave: | how do I change what session type I get from the command line? |
| [19:37:43] | justdave: | the normal way I know how is to pick it off the gdm menu before logging in |
| [19:37:53] | justdave: | but the VNC server doesn't work when the gdm menu is up |
| [19:37:59] | justdave: | and the box doesn't have a keyboard :) |
| [19:38:05] | laga: | justdave: the vnc server will only work after logging in |
| [19:38:13] | justdave: | that's what I just said :) |
| [19:38:15] | laga: | justdave: maybe in a file called .dmrc |
| [19:38:55] | justdave: | the vnc server can't keep up either |
| [19:39:08] | justdave: | I have to disconnect and reconnect frequently to get control of it back |
| [19:39:27] | laga: | justdave: file a bug report |
| [19:39:33] | justdave: | heh :) |
| [19:40:30] | justdave: | I have a keyboard but it's bluetooth |
| [19:40:39] | justdave: | and I can't get to the bluetooth manager in xcfe apparently |
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| [19:45:00] | Nikas: | Hello. What does "Scheduled 348 items in 2.3 = 0.03 match + 2.24 place" in the log mean when i shedule recordings? |
| [19:45:50] | Nikas: | And LAMC / LMSC in LiveTV? :) I know what the C stands for... and L... lock? |
| [19:46:52] | iamlindoro__: | L = Lock, A = PAT, M=PMT, S = SDT |
| [19:47:09] | laga: | i read "STD" first |
| [19:47:15] | iamlindoro__: | hehe |
| [19:47:24] | justdave: | hah, that's all it took |
| [19:47:25] | iamlindoro__: | S = STD = Seek medical attention |
| [19:47:30] | Nikas: | hah |
| [19:47:35] | justdave: | display preference in GNOME, checkmark the "clone screens" checkbox |
| [19:48:08] | Nikas: | PMT? Pre-menstrual Tension? ;) |
| [19:48:23] | laga: | omg |
| [19:49:36] | iamlindoro__: | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream |
| [19:49:43] | iamlindoro__: | All secrets will be revealed ;) |
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| [19:51:50] | ** justdave wonders why the display preferences in xcfe don't have that option ** | |
| [19:53:17] | mkrufky: | anybody build linuxtv.org modules against fedora 8 lately? |
| [19:53:24] | mkrufky: | f9, even? |
| [19:54:42] | justdave: | gnome's setting doesn't stick in xcfe |
| [19:54:51] | justdave: | guess I need to run myth in gnome |
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| [19:55:18] | justdave: | run it that way on the backend server, no biggie. :) |
| [19:55:29] | justdave: | just figured I'd try mythbuntu's default settings and see how it worked |
| [19:56:31] | laga: | justdave: file a bug please |
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| [19:57:54] | justdave: | where do I need to file it? (I'm assuming lauchpad, but I'm not sure what component would be responsible for that) |
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| [19:58:48] | laga: | justdave: http://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu |
| [19:58:52] | laga: | or even against xfce in ubuntu |
| [19:59:01] | laga: | http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu |
| [19:59:09] | laga: | http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce |
| [19:59:17] | laga: | or something like that. i hate navigating launchpad ;) |
| [20:00:14] | justdave: | I wish I could tell Xorg to just ignore screen 0 (because there is no screen 0 physically connected) |
| [20:00:31] | justdave: | can't figure out how to do that without having to manually define every freaking detail though |
| [20:01:05] | justdave: | If it tell it anything manually in xorg.conf it complains because the thing I'm telling it to use hasn't been defined yet (apparently the autodetect stuff all runs later) |
| [20:01:33] | justdave: | ah well, I'll mess with it later, got a meeting for work to call in to right now |
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| [20:20:34] | Nikas: | iamlindoro__, thanks for you link. Just need to find out what PMT stands for ;) |
| [20:21:05] | Nikas: | no.. i dont. all info are there ;) |
| [20:21:19] | iamlindoro__: | hehe ;) |
| [20:21:46] | Nikas: | but.. SDT? |
| [20:22:23] | iamlindoro__: | Service Decription Table |
| [20:22:34] | Nikas: | thanks ;) |
| [20:22:44] | iamlindoro__: | no prob |
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| [20:30:26] | keith4: | justdave: what driver are you using? |
| [20:30:33] | justdave: | keith4: intel |
| [20:31:04] | keith4: | oh |
| [20:31:14] | keith4: | it's easy with the nvidia driver ;-) |
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| [20:32:42] | DarkCow: | Is there a way, from the mythfrontend interface, to dump a single frame to jpeg/png? |
| [20:32:55] | kormoc: | no |
| [20:34:29] | DarkCow: | ok, thansk |
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| [20:57:23] | mkrufky: | eight seven seven, three nine three |
| [20:58:19] | iamlindoro__: | Jenny, Jenny don't you lose my number |
| [20:59:27] | mkrufky: | heh, you know what thats from tho, right? |
| [20:59:32] | mkrufky: | the damn # is stuck in my haed |
| [20:59:47] | mkrufky: | i hate the commercial, but its probably the best advertising campaign , ever |
| [21:00:22] | iamlindoro__: | Naw, don't know it |
| [21:00:51] | mkrufky: | four four four, eight! |
| [21:01:05] | iamlindoro__: | oh, is that that gangster cable co in NYC? |
| [21:01:10] | iamlindoro__: | I think maybe I have |
| [21:01:15] | iamlindoro__: | with the beach and stuff? |
| [21:01:29] | mkrufky: | hehehyup |
| [21:01:48] | iamlindoro__: | yeah, I guess I did see that once |
| [21:01:49] | mkrufky: | and that commercial is _always_ planing on SOME channel |
| [21:01:59] | mkrufky: | and you know we have almost every channel streaming here |
| [21:02:13] | mkrufky: | so i hear the damned commercial all day, every day |
| [21:02:29] | mkrufky: | does anybody need the number for optimum online? i have it memorized |
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| [21:11:25] | kormoc: | 8675309 |
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| [21:38:17] | joesuffceren: | I need help deciding if MythTv is the right project for me to use for the goal I am trying to accomplish |
| [21:39:18] | justdave: | ok, for the record: solved the problem by adding this to xorg.conf: |
| [21:39:19] | justdave: | Section "Monitor" Identifier "TMDS-1" Option "Ignore" "True" |
| [21:39:19] | justdave: | EndSection |
| [21:39:32] | joesuffceren: | I have a supported tuner/hardware encoder (Plextor ConvertX TV402U), and I want to record shows directly to mp4 @ 320 x 240 for my ipod. I don't ever intend to watch the recorded shows via myth-frontend or on a tv, etc, so I'd rather not record in one format and transcode for ipod |
| [21:39:37] | justdave: | er, there were more linefeeds than that in it, crappy copy/paste :) |
| [21:39:44] | joesuffceren: | Can mythtv be configured to do this? |
| [21:40:11] | justdave: | what format you record in I think is a function of the hardware |
| [21:40:24] | justdave: | it's whatever format the encoder outputs |
| [21:40:40] | joesuffceren: | okay. I know my hardware can do mp4, but I've read about mythtv and .nuv (which I've never heard of) |
| [21:40:52] | joesuffceren: | Do I have to use .nuv with myth, or am I missing something? |
| [21:41:09] | justdave: | I think myth will play pretty much anything as long as you have codecs on hand |
| [21:41:24] | justdave: | if the database points at that filename and it's a recognized format... |
| [21:41:58] | iamlindoro__: | hardware encoders output .mpg containers. Your encoder outputs MP4 *codec*... at the very least you'll need to copy the streams into a container that the iPod understands, namely the MP4 *container* |
| [21:42:57] | joesuffceren: | and is that copying into an mp4 container something mythtv will do for me as it records, or will I need to use a transcoder to do that? |
| [21:43:18] | iamlindoro__: | you would need to do it after the fact, but it's not a transcode as no re-encoding would take place |
| [21:43:54] | joesuffceren: | okay. is that something that could be scripted through myth? Also, how hardware intensive would that process be? |
| [21:44:03] | iamlindoro__: | it's a simple copy of the streams into a new container |
| [21:44:21] | iamlindoro__: | minimally hardware intensive, and yes, it could be scripted as a user job to run on each recording as it finished |
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| [21:44:49] | joesuffceren: | awesome! do you know of a good resource outlining that process that I could read over? |
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| [21:45:08] | iamlindoro__: | the ffmpeg manual would be a good place to start |
| [21:45:28] | joesuffceren: | gotcha, so I would do it with ffmpeg. I'll read over the manpages for that then. |
| [21:45:41] | iamlindoro__: | ffmpeg -i infile.mpg -acodec copy -vcodec copy outfile.mp4, more or less, but there will be additional options to set. That's the basic starting point, though |
| [21:46:23] | joesuffceren: | Thanks so much iamlindoro and justdave. I'll take the plunge this weekend. |
| [21:46:28] | joesuffceren: | oh, I see. that makes sense |
| [21:46:29] | joesuffceren: | Thanks |
| [21:46:35] | iamlindoro__: | np |
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| [22:00:51] | dedi: | hi there |
| [22:01:05] | clever: | hi here |
| [22:03:24] | dedi: | i just through my dvb-c card in my linux box, got it running with myth, but it seems the cabel signal is realy bad. i had no problems on my windows box |
| [22:04:04] | dedi: | unfortunately i didnt got any other dvb program working to compare if its just a mythtv thing |
| [22:05:50] | laga: | try kaffeine? |
| [22:06:30] | dedi: | doesnt that only have a dvb (network) streaming client? |
| [22:07:11] | laga: | it can also record from dvb devices directly |
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| [22:10:20] | dedi: | cant get that working, also tried (k)vdr and klear |
| [22:10:39] | clever: | vlc or mplayer might work |
| [22:14:04] | dedi: | no ideas to solve the primary problem? :D |
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| [22:16:24] | clever: | never used dvb myself |
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| [22:26:33] | imperfect-: | Any ide aif I can play vista mce content using the front end? |
| [22:26:41] | imperfect-: | if vista is broadcasting via uPNP ? |
| [22:27:32] | iamlindoro: | Myth doesn't have a uPnP client, just a server |
| [22:27:44] | imperfect-: | blah |
| [22:27:45] | imperfect-: | Oh well |
| [22:27:48] | imperfect-: | was worth a shot ;) |
| [22:27:54] | iamlindoro: | you can probably use djmount |
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| [22:28:01] | imperfect-: | djmount? |
| [22:28:15] | imperfect-: | well |
| [22:28:17] | iamlindoro: | to mount the upnp as a file system somewhere in your mythvideo dir |
| [22:28:18] | imperfect-: | if I wanted to do that I could |
| [22:28:28] | imperfect-: | I just wanted to be able to watch my recorded TV shows |
| [22:28:45] | iamlindoro: | Are you recording on vista? |
| [22:29:04] | kormoc: | so you want to watch your shows but an option to allow you to watch your shows doesn't work for you? |
| [22:29:05] | ** kormoc blinks ** | |
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| [22:30:40] | imperfect-: | kormoc: if I wanted to do that I'd just mount the fucking filesystem jackfuck ;) |
| [22:31:05] | imperfect-: | I swear you people are so tedious. |
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| [22:31:09] | iamlindoro: | uhhhhhh |
| [22:31:21] | iamlindoro: | what a dildo |
| [22:31:41] | stuarta: | damn he left |
| [22:31:51] | stuarta: | would have been fun to kick him |
| [22:32:21] | iamlindoro: | 3ee85667@bgp4.us FWIW ;) |
| [22:32:40] | stuarta: | i'm not mean enough to ban him just yet |
| [22:33:15] | iamlindoro: | This channel *does* have extraordinarily high tolerance, to be sure |
| [22:33:28] | kormoc: | I wonder if we should actually prune the ban list |
| [22:33:44] | stuarta: | it's not too bad last i looked |
| [22:34:02] | kormoc: | 28 |
| [22:34:34] | kormoc: | but a ton of them are folks from awhile ago, they likely gave up or will be nicer by now |
| [22:34:37] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
| [22:34:50] | dedi: | is it necessary to fine tune digital channels? |
| [22:35:19] | iamlindoro: | dedi: Generally not |
| [22:35:49] | iamlindoro: | usually a "get 'em or you don't" kind of thing |
| [22:37:01] | dedi: | i have all channels very unsmooth stottering with pixel |
| [22:37:10] | stuarta: | poor signal quality |
| [22:37:27] | dedi: | yes, it shows only 47% |
| [22:37:36] | stuarta: | that's the problem |
| [22:38:09] | dedi: | its still working on windows with dvbviewer, even hd, and my dreambox works well too |
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| [22:38:33] | ** stuarta wonders if there's some magical kernel module parameter required ** | |
| [22:38:35] | dedi: | so why the same card with the same cable (tried others) in an other pc with linux dont work is my question |
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| [22:40:05] | stuarta: | that is a good question |
| [22:40:31] | dedi: | thats my life.. i always get such weird problems :( |
| [22:40:56] | bunder: | hello, quick question... i have some recordings on my machine, but there are times when i'll see that exact same episode in my EPG and it'll say 'previously' instead of 'currently'... the recording is still present on the system, as i can view it fine... any ideas? |
| [22:41:10] | stuarta: | dedi: so that card works fine in the same machine under windows? |
| [22:41:41] | laga: | some cards/tuners don't work as well as they do in windows. that's what i've heard at least :) |
| [22:41:53] | kormoc: | bunder, that's because if it's already recorded, it won't re-record it again |
| [22:41:54] | dedi: | other computer, the next step i go to try is either find my windows live cd or install linux on the other computer |
| [22:42:26] | bunder: | kormoc: yes, i understand that... but it should say 'currently', not 'previously'... previously means i deleted it after watching it |
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| [22:42:33] | stuarta: | if you can narrow it down to either computer or os differences you will know where to go next |
| [22:42:47] | filthpig: | hi, does anyone know if Technotrend Budget C-1501 is supported in linux? I know the 1500 was, but that's discontinued... Couldn't find anything in google on it |
| [22:42:57] | kormoc: | bunder, currently recording means it's actively using the tuner, which it's not |
| [22:42:59] | stuarta: | dedi: there's always linux live cd's :) |
| [22:43:09] | dedi: | stuarta: if it is os (what i expect) i dont know where to go :) |
| [22:43:11] | bunder: | kormoc: no, it would say "recording" if that was the case |
| [22:43:33] | dedi: | stuarta: this pc is getting linux anyway, just have to wait some hours for moving files :> |
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| [22:43:51] | stuarta: | if it's an os thing, then talk to the guys in #linuxtv |
| [22:43:58] | ** kormoc shrugs ** | |
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| [22:51:41] | russK: | I'm on gentoo and my /var/run/mysqld/mysqld-bin.00000? files filled up the /var partition ... are these the database files? |
| [22:56:17] | clever: | binary log |
| [22:56:23] | clever: | enabled by default on some distro's |
| [22:56:33] | clever: | nearly useless for most people |
| [22:56:44] | russK: | thanks clever — so I can remove them safely? |
| [22:56:47] | clever: | it ate over 10gig on me once before i knew it was on |
| [22:56:59] | clever: | you should disable binary loging in /etc/mysql/my.cnf and then restart&delete |
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| [23:02:20] | iamlindoro: | Reiser found guilty, I can now not get sass when I call ReiserFS MurderFS |
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| [23:10:28] | ** justdave wonders why xcfe leaves the screensaver enabled when installed via mythbuntu ** | |
| [23:11:11] | justdave: | oh, maybe because it's not xcfe. I still have it running under gnome apparently |
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| [23:18:52] | jadams_: | so M used to bring up the program guide, and now it brings up an interim menu. Is there a button that just brings up the program guide still? |
| [23:19:19] | kormoc: | you can use mythcontrols to setup your keybindings to whatever you wnat |
| [23:19:29] | jadams_: | thanks |
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| [23:24:30] | jadams_: | and how do I watch a show I've selected on the guide? |
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| [23:27:46] | J-e-f-f-A: | !seen iamlindoro |
| [23:27:46] | MythLogBot: | iamlindoro is here and has been idle for 25 minutes 26 seconds |
| [23:27:55] | iamlindoro: | Whassup? |
| [23:28:09] | iamlindoro: | Hear it was rainy today |
| [23:28:15] | J-e-f-f-A: | iamlindoro: Hey man.. ;-) How's it going? All done reshaping... 2.4TB now!!! |
| [23:28:24] | iamlindoro: | Sweet, and about time! |
| [23:28:28] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yep, really rainy.. through the night even... |
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| [23:28:51] | iamlindoro: | probably less painful just to add one by one from here on out |
| [23:29:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | iamlindoro: Yeah, I won't have to add drives for a long time now... ;-) |
| [23:30:20] | iamlindoro: | Heh, I said that last time-- this next 1 TB better last at least a year |
| [23:30:39] | iamlindoro: | Am mostly just adding my TV shows as they air, so it should last me a while |
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| [23:32:13] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, me too. Although I've moved my videos onto the raid too, so that used to be a seperate 320GB drive, now its on the raid. |
| [23:32:46] | iamlindoro: | Must be nice to have the whole thing squared away finally |
| [23:33:18] | iamlindoro: | Am toying with the idea of a clean build a few weeks from now |
| [23:33:41] | iamlindoro: | well, same equipment, fresh install of myth, plus playing w/ the HD-PVR when I get it (hopefully this week!) |
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| [23:33:57] | J-e-f-f-A: | Yeah, some things to still work out — the 'setserial' commands in my modprobe.conf don't seem to be working (so I have to do that manually on reboot), and mythbackend isn't registerd as a service... minor stuff... |
| [23:36:11] | iamlindoro: | Can't recall if I paid for two-day shipping... may come early next week if mine goes out this week |
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| [23:37:04] | lwizardl: | hi |
| [23:37:34] | lwizardl: | can someone help me with getting my DVB card installed in ubuntu? |
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| [23:40:12] | INternat: | Howdy, im about to reinstall my mythfrontend box, and im just tossing up weather its better on debian or ubuntu. Id prefer debian, but im thinking ubuntu may be more up to date in terms of video codex and the myth libraries. |
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| [23:41:56] | lwizardl: | INternat, ubuntu is debain based |
| [23:42:14] | INternat: | i realise this |
| [23:42:41] | INternat: | however ubuntu is a lot less stringent on stability and ubuntu typically has more up to date packates then debian |
| [23:42:44] | ** Mousey uses debian, it's more up to dater ** | |
| [23:43:28] | Mousey: | debian's up to date packages are in unstable. as long as you install debian from stable or testing, and have unstable among the sources in your sources.list then you're more up to date than even ubuntu |
| [23:43:42] | Mousey: | for codecs, you'll need to have debian-multimedia.org sources tho |
| [23:43:53] | Mousey: | oh, for mythtv debs too |
| [23:45:35] | Mousey: | just be sure to specify that "testing" or "stable" [tho i recommend testing] is set as your default release so that apt-get upgrade doesn't grab everything from unstable |
| [23:46:10] | Mousey: | in the case of "testing" as your default-release, i still recommend having stable in your sources list as well as testing and unstable.. |
| [23:46:29] | Mousey: | but most importantly include debian-multimedia.org sources, lest ye be stimied |
| [23:46:38] | Mousey: | stymied? |
| [23:46:40] | Mousey: | whateva |
| [23:47:05] | Agrajag-: | i'd recommend not taking Mousey's "advice" |
| [23:47:23] | Mousey: | then ubuntu away! |
| [23:47:27] | Mousey: | or mythoppix or something |
| [23:47:47] | puzzled: | good evening all. I just installed mythtv 0.21 from atrpms on an F8 box with a PVR-500. I can't seem to find where I can copy my movies so I can view them via the "Watch Videos" menu. Anyone have any idea? |
| [23:51:11] | iamlindoro: | Utilities/Setup->Setup->Media Settings->Video Settings->General Settings and start reading ;) |
| [23:51:29] | puzzled: | wow that took some typing. thanks! :) |
| [23:51:38] | iamlindoro: | np |
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| [23:56:29] | puzzled: | iamlindoro: thanks for your help. they are visible now |
| [23:56:48] | iamlindoro: | no problem |
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