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| [00:01:39] | gbee: | jsumners: amd |
| [00:02:15] | Lynet: | gbee: m-atx with s-vid/component/hdmi? Whow, what's the name of that thing? |
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| [00:03:01] | iamlindoro_: | If ATI drivers keep improving I may need to take a second look at this case-- look at the IO on it, plus exactly DVD player form factor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856171002 |
| [00:03:10] | jsumners: | http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp . . . ;srchInDesc= |
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| [00:05:21] | gbee: | currently getting a DNS error for newegg |
| [00:05:28] | jsumners: | awesome |
| [00:05:47] | jsumners: | it's just a list of matx board with HDMI out |
| [00:05:54] | gbee: | jsumners: ahh |
| [00:05:55] | jsumners: | at least a couple are nvidia |
| [00:06:51] | gbee: | well the svideo was also important as it needs to be connected to an SD tv for now – but I assume such a board exists, I just couldn't find one at the time |
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| [00:12:24] | ** stuarta decides to dice with death and get some acceleration happening in X ** | |
| [00:12:37] | stuarta: | biab |
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| [00:24:36] | Fenix-Dark: | someone think they could help me with getting a channel.conf file? |
| [00:30:52] | Dagmar: | I can |
| [00:30:57] | Dagmar: | No wait, that's the drugs talking. |
| [00:31:51] | iamlindoro: | Unless you have an awfully good reason, you should be using myth's channel scanning and not a channels.conf |
| [00:32:35] | Fenix-Dark: | iamlindoro, ok i'll try that |
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| [00:50:51] | stuarta: | hmmm, well proprietry driver is faster even without 3d accel |
| [00:54:21] | stuarta: | except for the same problem gbee noticed about it failing to get X shared memory video output |
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| [00:58:00] | gbee: | latest git of radeonhd apparently has xvideo support, I'm just building it now |
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| [00:59:03] | gbee: | the opengl renderer works with the free driver |
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| [00:59:48] | gbee: | not sure the playback is 100% smooth and the image quality doesn't seem right |
| [01:00:00] | gbee: | but it works :) |
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| [01:01:53] | stuarta: | hey i was trying the non free driver. eek! |
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| [01:04:09] | gbee: | stuarta: I'm swapping between the two trying to find something that works :) |
| [01:04:48] | gbee: | ok, latest radeonhd driver built from git is still giving me a "no adapters present" for xvinfo |
| [01:04:50] | gbee: | :( |
| [01:04:54] | stuarta: | i'll go back to my slow but working basic free radeon driver |
| [01:05:16] | stuarta: | lacking anything better |
| [01:05:21] | gbee: | just wondering if the 'radeon' driver will work for me |
| [01:06:02] | stuarta: | doubt any of the new/nice features will work, but the basic chip might |
| [01:08:34] | gbee: | nope, no xvideo there either |
| [01:09:07] | gbee: | guess I'm out of luck, I'll have to try and pick up a cheap PCI-E nvidia card tomorrow :( |
| [01:09:46] | stuarta: | or learn video driver hacking! |
| [01:10:28] | stuarta: | nn |
| [01:10:41] | ** stuarta revert video config and goes to bed ** | |
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| [01:11:15] | gbee: | night |
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| [01:15:29] | gbee: | "This release of the ATI Catalyst? Linux driver introduces Xvideo extension for video scaling and color space conversion is now support on Xpress 1200 series hardware" << from the 8.3 release notes ... so it _should_ be working ... |
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| [01:16:43] | iamlindoro_: | gbee: have you done aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv and a reboot just yet? |
| [01:17:01] | gbee: | yeah, tried that several hours ago |
| [01:17:05] | iamlindoro_: | ah, ok |
| [01:17:11] | gbee: | at this stage I'm willing to try it again though |
| [01:18:34] | iamlindoro_: | Dunno if this might be any help http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susen . . . i...-372826/ |
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| [01:19:57] | Dagmar: | Oooh fun |
| [01:20:30] | Dagmar: | http://siterunningmythweb.foo:8000:88 is always a fun way to start a URL |
| [01:25:47] | Dagmar: | Hmm.. Looks like it doesn't really bother lvplayer much tho. |
| [01:25:52] | Dagmar: | er flvplayer |
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| [01:29:39] | gbee: | hurray! I've finally got xvideo |
| [01:29:52] | Dagmar: | Heh congrats |
| [01:29:53] | iamlindoro: | gbee: What was the trick? |
| [01:29:55] | gbee: | no idea what made the difference, but I don't care at this point :) |
| [01:31:03] | gbee: | well the one thing I did do differently is install the very latest driver from the website _and_ use overlay-type=Xv |
| [01:31:54] | gbee: | I'd tried that with the packaged driver earlier but only after uninstalling the more recent driver |
| [01:32:33] | gbee: | just hope tv-out works when I try it tomorrow |
| [01:32:37] | gbee: | er, today |
| [01:32:51] | gbee: | crap, I should get to bed |
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| [01:32:58] | iamlindoro: | night |
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| [01:43:44] | gregorovius: | Hi... anyone knows if it's possible to control overscan in a bt848 with v4lctl or similar? I can't find anything |
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| [03:01:13] | armbar: | how can I move /media/mythvideo-dir to /media/new-dir/mythvideo-dir and not have to get new imdb mapping for existing videos? |
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| [03:01:57] | armbar: | looked on the wiki and did not see anything |
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| [03:06:39] | Anduin: | armbar: only with direct DB modification |
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| [03:09:01] | armbar: | Anduin: I thought so but wasn't sure it a howto is around.. |
| [03:11:28] | Anduin: | armbar: Not that I know of, you only need to change videometadata.filename though |
| [03:12:17] | armbar: | Anduin: through mythfrontend or in the db? |
| [03:12:39] | Anduin: | armbar: The DB, there is no way, in the frontend, to move files. |
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| [03:31:28] | HRearden: | Can someone help me out with a lineup change problem? My cable co is doing a massive channel realignment. Unfortunately, they are not doing this by simply updating their lineup in SD. |
| [03:31:36] | HRearden: | They are creating a new "rebuild" lineup. |
| [03:32:07] | HRearden: | How can I still preserve my existing linkages / videosources etc. while still linking to the new correct one ? |
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| [03:36:39] | Anduin: | HRearden: Why do you need to? You can add the new lineup and change the associations |
| [03:37:26] | HRearden: | Add new lineup as a new video source or change existing video source to link to the new SD lineup? |
| [03:37:58] | Anduin: | HRearden: add a new, change the input associations, delete the old |
| [03:38:47] | HRearden: | Or don't delete the old, I guess, so that the old chanid history on recordings still pulls up info, right?> |
| [03:39:18] | Anduin: | If it is really important, I guess. |
| [03:40:09] | HRearden: | Well, if you totally delete the old video source, that's when you end up with all the old #### stuff when you pull up past recordings |
| [03:40:28] | HRearden: | And I thought that it could also screw up the scheduler algorithm in some cases, although I'm not entirely sure.. |
| [03:41:23] | Anduin: | If a source isn't associated with an input nothing can schedule on it |
| [03:42:02] | HRearden: | Right, but I thought in terms of oldrecorded entries and dup checking it might be an issue |
| [03:42:27] | HRearden: | Don't recall at the moment, although I was looking at that code deeply a few months ago. |
| [03:43:10] | HRearden: | On the other hand, if you keep the old video source, then you are still pulling data from SD, which seems wrong too. |
| [03:43:58] | iamlindoro: | hm, AFAIK mythfilldatabase won't d/l listings for anything not associated with an input |
| [03:44:26] | HRearden: | I could check that if I end up going that route. |
| [03:44:32] | iamlindoro: | but.. I guess I've never had old lineups laying around so I could be wrong about that |
| [03:44:39] | Anduin: | HRearden: fir oldrecorded and SD you with have program ids |
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| [03:45:02] | HRearden: | ? |
| [03:45:25] | Anduin: | HRearden: seriesid and programid, no channel needed |
| [03:45:29] | HRearden: | ah. |
| [03:45:40] | Anduin: | (and title/subtitle would be the other normal check) |
| [03:45:57] | HRearden: | which it never does if a program id exists. |
| [03:46:14] | Anduin: | Yes, just saying chanid isn't going to make a difference |
| [03:46:56] | HRearden: | I thought, though, that if you did something like "record only on this channel" then perhaps the oldrecorded entries structure might matter. |
| [03:47:41] | Anduin: | Yeah, I won't say for certain but I don't think it does (channel is for future, duplicate checking is universal) |
| [03:48:27] | HRearden: | Right. Perhaps I'm confusing it with the feature I was trying to implement (duplicate checking based on an individual channel, which *would* have needed such a thing....) |
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| [03:50:08] | HRearden: | The other piece here is that they've only REALLY re-orged the pay channels (those above 76). 95% of my recordings are those in the non-reorged range. That *might* tend to point me in the direction of just updating the existing videosource to point to a different schedules direct lineup. Thoughts? |
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| [03:52:51] | Anduin: | You certainly could do that, I guess I've never cared about the minor information loss when switching lineups |
| [03:53:45] | HRearden: | You definitely lose info like the network callsign it was recorded on, network icons, etc. |
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| [04:34:48] | jafa: | playing with top of trunk... odd problem... left/right (ff/rw) doesn't work playing a recording (currently recording). Live TV ff/rw works ok |
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| [04:49:14] | cesman: | jafa: trunk is being going from qt3 to qt4 and may not be stable |
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| [05:00:06] | jafa: | cesman: also noticed that nVidia XvMC causes frontend to segfault :) |
| [05:00:17] | jafa: | haven't looked into that one yet |
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| [05:09:41] | cesman: | jafa: trunk is being going from qt3 to qt4 and may not be stable ;) |
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| [05:53:19] | Anduin: | jafa: check for crashed tables |
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| [06:02:42] | jafa: | Anduin: mysql tables? mysqlcheck reports ok. DB was created yesterday. This was the first recording |
| [06:03:05] | jafa: | interestingly ff/rw worked ok on the second recording |
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| [06:03:32] | jafa: | and worked ok when I restarted playing the first recording (mythfrontend crashed) |
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| [06:41:16] | PaulWay: | Hi all! |
| [06:41:28] | PaulWay: | Hey, anyone using 0.21 of MythTV with DVB cards – do I have to do anything to enable multirec or does it just work? |
| [06:51:00] | PaulWay: | Ah, here we are, have to recreate the capture card setup and choose the number of 'virtual' tuners. |
| [06:58:35] | justinh: | each tuner can have up to 5 virtual tuners :) |
| [06:58:41] | justinh: | or more if you hack the source :P |
| [06:58:47] | PaulWay: | Right – five is enough for me. |
| [06:59:02] | justinh: | 2 is enough for me- I have 3 tuners |
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| [07:02:05] | justinh: | though recently I've had problems with recordings from bbc one – they've all gone a bit Sky Plus |
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| [07:02:30] | justinh: | signal is through the roof, ber & unc are zero according to femon |
| [07:08:21] | justinh: | I'll run femon |grep -vn "unc 00000000" to spot any spikes |
| [07:09:14] | justinh: | gonna have to replace all the RF connectors on my setup – these belling lee coax plugs & sockets are crap |
| [07:09:48] | justinh: | they're fine when you first put them together but time seems to work em apart |
| [07:24:41] | justinh: | nothing output as yet. I'll have to keep the dog out of the little alcove where the aerial amp is I think |
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| [07:53:10] | Bernardo: | hi |
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| [07:59:03] | Bernardo: | I am having some problems deleting old recordings. I've checked and I have the same timezone on both the master and the slave backend, and the start and end timestamps seem valid, so it shouldn't be http://readlist.com/lists/mythtv.org/mythtv-users/9/49149.html |
| [07:59:39] | Bernardo: | These are all "small"recordings (3–4 kb in size) left when the backend crashed just after starting recording those particular shows |
| [08:00:54] | Bernardo: | how can I get rid of these? |
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| [08:01:34] | PaulWay: | So there are recording files but no corresponding recording in the database? |
| [08:02:04] | PaulWay: | Have you had a look in the frontend log to see what it says when you try to delete the recording? |
| [08:03:09] | Bernardo: | there are files and records, and the backend error is the "Unable to retrieve program info for chanid ... Program will NOT be deleted." |
| [08:03:19] | Bernardo: | will check the frontend log now, forgot that |
| [08:04:14] | Bernardo: | "NVP::OpenFile(): Error, couldn't read file: myth://192.168.1.104:6543/1021_20080107195600.nuv" |
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| [08:04:26] | Bernardo: | so probably there is only the record, not the file :( |
| [08:06:04] | Bernardo: | is there a "automatic" way to travell the db looking for these missing files? myth_optimizedb.pl didn't help |
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| [08:12:18] | Bernardo: | is myth.find_orphans.pl still up to date on 0.21? Or will I risk losing my db if I run it? |
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| [08:19:58] | justinh: | always have a backup handy before running that jazz |
| [08:20:07] | justinh: | infact always have a backup handy! |
| [08:21:03] | Bernardo: | :) |
| [08:21:36] | Bernardo: | I've doen that and am now deleting "by hand" (delete from recorded where basename="...";) |
| [08:21:40] | Bernardo: | done |
| [08:22:00] | justinh: | you could also _touch_ the missing files |
| [08:22:05] | justinh: | I'd advise the latter |
| [08:22:11] | justinh: | manual db mangling is risky |
| [08:22:37] | justinh: | and of course it'd always be nice to know why there are missing files in the first place |
| [08:22:47] | Bernardo: | I know why they are missing |
| [08:23:02] | justinh: | fairy muff |
| [08:23:12] | Bernardo: | before updating from gutsy to hardy, mythbackend would always crash when starting a recording |
| [08:23:47] | radi0head: | Hi, anyone here figured out this problem yet? Thanks in advance. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . icon;#322922 |
| [08:24:04] | Bernardo: | I had a script running every minute to restart it and so it would record the show 1 minute later, but leave a non-existing recording entry |
| [08:24:12] | Bernardo: | from the crash |
| [08:25:07] | justinh: | heh workarounds are fugly |
| [08:25:15] | Bernardo: | I never had the time to do a proper backtrace and detect if the bug was in the v4l driver or myth, so I never submitted it, but the updtae to hardy seems to have fixed it, so it probably was something solved in v4l between 2.6.22 and 2.6.24 |
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| [08:25:32] | justinh: | Bernardo: or in mythtv 0.21 :) |
| [08:25:43] | Bernardo: | I already had 0.21 running... :) |
| [08:25:59] | Bernardo: | in fact, I just stopped using trunk with the change to qt4 |
| [08:26:10] | justinh: | radi0head: what problem is that? that mailing list page makes it vague to say the least other than it's to do with the icon downloader |
| [08:26:14] | Bernardo: | my wife was complaining of too many updates... :) |
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| [08:27:31] | justinh: | theme support request emails. deleted |
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| [08:28:27] | radi0head: | justinh, I launch mythtv-setup, go to the icon downloader. I select them then after closing mythtv-setup, I run mythfilldatabase but the icons I selected are nowhere to be seen in LiveTV mode. |
| [08:28:34] | justinh: | heh. Contact TNT courier service to reclaim your atm card valued at $10.5m. yeah right |
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| [08:28:57] | justinh: | radi0head: the icon downloader does the downloading not mythfilldatabase AFAIK |
| [08:29:03] | radi0head: | justinh, I can see all the icons in ~/.mythtv/channels/ |
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| [08:29:57] | justinh: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Channel_icons is about as useless as it could possibly be, too :( |
| [08:30:11] | justinh: | sometimes I wonder why we even bother having a wiki |
| [08:30:19] | radi0head: | justinh, I know, I run mythfilldatabase after, and some of the icons are still not there. I went there,, to no avail. |
| [08:30:57] | justinh: | anyway I thought you got icons as part of the deal with schedulesdirect |
| [08:31:13] | radi0head: | justinh, Also there seems to be a really wierd selection bug. When I type in 'BBC' into the manual search box it often sends me to the bottom of the page and then I can only scroll between the bottom three items! |
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| [08:31:32] | justinh: | ahh you're in the UK – and you're that mailing list poster |
| [08:31:36] | radi0head: | justinh, Same 2 problems as this guys: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/ . . . icon;#322922 |
| [08:31:43] | justinh: | or same problem lol |
| [08:31:51] | radi0head: | justinh, I am in Canada, QUebec, Montreal. |
| [08:31:53] | justinh: | I dunno. I do all my own icons. |
| [08:32:07] | justinh: | anyway – time to walk the dawg |
| [08:32:29] | radi0head: | justinh, I have all the icons, but only like half of them are working in LiveTV, I don<t know why. |
| [08:33:05] | radi0head: | justinh, Have fun! :) |
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| [09:49:35] | justinh: | radi0head: it's probably that the icon paths aren't in the database for some reason |
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| [09:58:40] | emja: | what tool does myth use to download the movie poster (in video manager)? my system won't download the poster, but it happily retrieves all the metadata, including the postername. |
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| [09:59:49] | emja: | i can successfully download the poster with wget. presumably myth doesn't use wget |
| [09:59:58] | justinh: | look in imdb.pl |
| [10:00:00] | emja: | (otherhwise myth would work, of course) |
| [10:00:17] | emja: | justinh: nope, that only retreives the poster name |
| [10:01:21] | justinh: | fetch_poster.py ? |
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| [10:02:08] | justinh: | looks like some python web grabbing class or other |
| [10:02:29] | justinh: | your friendly local mythtv packager should have sorted out all the dependencies though. they need a slap if not :) |
| [10:03:13] | emja: | hmm... looks like they do |
| [10:03:57] | emja: | it has a dependency that isn't yet installed |
| [10:04:19] | emja: | on the other hand, it looks to me like fetch_poster.py is a substitute for imdb.pl |
| [10:04:19] | justinh: | next question – does the user you run mythfrontend as have the necessary permissions to write to the poster storage dir? |
| [10:05:04] | emja: | hmm... will check. I've been caught before making bad assumptions. ;-) |
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| [10:05:41] | justinh: | looks like imdb.pl can grab the poster too |
| [10:06:54] | justinh: | my $response = get $request; maybe. my perl-fu is weak |
| [10:07:20] | justinh: | make sure you've got LWP::Simple installed |
| [10:08:25] | emja: | ok. I'll investigate via that route |
| [10:08:32] | emja: | btw, perms on dir were fine |
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| [11:05:22] | quicksilver: | any particular things to look out for when upgrading from 0.20.2 to 0.21? |
| [11:05:30] | quicksilver: | apart from 'back up your database first' ? |
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| [11:05:53] | justinh: | watch out ethel! |
| [11:05:59] | justinh: | too late, she's just been mooned |
| [11:06:12] | laga: | ethel? |
| [11:06:36] | justinh: | quicksilver: nah not really. just be careful |
| [11:06:48] | justinh: | when asked if you want to format C: say no :P |
| [11:06:52] | quicksilver: | ;P |
| [11:07:05] | quicksilver: | I just upgraded from X 7.1 to 7.3 and ATI drivers 6.6 to 6.8 |
| [11:07:09] | quicksilver: | and that all just worked with apt-get |
| [11:07:11] | quicksilver: | to my surprise. |
| [11:07:13] | justinh: | peace be with you |
| [11:07:15] | quicksilver: | Now I can haz opengl! :) |
| [11:07:21] | quicksilver: | (and tvout at the same time) |
| [11:07:32] | justinh: | roflmfao |
| [11:07:45] | justinh: | you mean they were mutually exclusive before? |
| [11:07:46] | gbee: | lucky you, I couldn't even get xvideo :( |
| [11:07:54] | laga: | drm video sync doesn't seem to work for me with ati 6.8.0. it needs a driver patch AFAIK |
| [11:08:11] | quicksilver: | the guy who wrote the tv-out stuff for 6.6 put it under a funny license, justinh |
| [11:08:16] | quicksilver: | so it wasn't rolled back into mainline for a long time |
| [11:08:20] | quicksilver: | and excluded 3d support |
| [11:08:27] | quicksilver: | however, he saw sense and it now is |
| [11:08:57] | quicksilver: | previously I didn't really care because I don't use opengl for anything. |
| [11:09:08] | quicksilver: | but I have been writing some evil opengl programs and I want to try running them on my TV |
| [11:09:31] | laga: | evil opengl programs? did you fit the goatse guy ina 4k demo? |
| [11:09:37] | justinh: | evil opengl eh. smells of pythons |
| [11:11:11] | quicksilver: | no, actuall it smells of lambdas |
| [11:11:15] | quicksilver: | written in haskell :) |
| [11:18:32] | justinh: | ahhh DrawCoolStuffOnTheScreen($prettyness); |
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| [12:07:37] | quicksilver: | ok, here goes |
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| [12:30:31] | quicksilver: | grah :( |
| [12:30:35] | quicksilver: | disaster strikes! |
| [12:30:49] | quicksilver: | Database Schema upgrade FAILED, unlocking. |
| [12:33:39] | quicksilver: | odd |
| [12:34:11] | quicksilver: | woo. |
| [12:34:15] | quicksilver: | fixed by hand. |
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| [12:36:43] | justinh: | failed for me too |
| [12:36:48] | justinh: | dunno wtf, but got past it |
| [12:36:51] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [12:36:58] | quicksilver: | display is a bit "jittery" |
| [12:37:10] | justinh: | playback profiles ftw |
| [12:37:12] | quicksilver: | not too noticeable with natural video, but very noticeabl with subtitles/OSD |
| [12:37:18] | quicksilver: | is that dodgy deinterlacing? |
| [12:37:33] | justinh: | could be. or dodgy video renderer method |
| [12:37:36] | quicksilver: | it's like it's flicking up and down by 1 line per frame |
| [12:37:41] | laga: | i blame bob |
| [12:37:43] | laga: | *shrugs* |
| [12:37:47] | justinh: | I just put stuff in there & hoped for the best! |
| [12:37:49] | quicksilver: | the menu screen is fine though |
| [12:37:56] | quicksilver: | let's check what my settings are |
| [12:38:08] | justinh: | playback profiles are all like WHAT WHAT WHAT?! |
| [12:38:55] | justinh: | end results are way better but at the price of QUE? |
| [12:39:53] | ** quicksilver tries the new screen settings wizard ** | |
| [12:40:11] | quicksilver: | what kind of menu is that which comes up in the wizard? that's really nice crisp text. |
| [12:40:18] | laga: | mythui |
| [12:41:03] | quicksilver: | hmm. Now I adjusted my screen size with the screen size wizard I have a white rectangle around all video |
| [12:42:01] | justinh: | use video size for playback.. oopsie |
| [12:42:33] | justinh: | screen size wizard is mostly to make the GUI fit the screen. that was my intent anyway |
| [12:42:53] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [12:42:57] | quicksilver: | it worked very well |
| [12:42:59] | quicksilver: | for that part |
| [12:42:59] | justinh: | video should be played back with overscan IMHO |
| [12:43:05] | quicksilver: | because I did used to lose the bottom right button |
| [12:43:08] | quicksilver: | and now I don't |
| [12:43:16] | quicksilver: | so, great work there! |
| [12:43:26] | ** quicksilver is browsing through hundreds of settings screens. ** | |
| [12:43:34] | quicksilver: | How do I tell it to overscan for video? |
| [12:43:50] | justinh: | just uncheck the 'use gui size for tv playback' box |
| [12:43:59] | justinh: | in appearance settings I think |
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| [12:44:36] | justinh: | expect more coding miracles from me later in the year :P |
| [12:44:42] | quicksilver: | thanks. |
| [12:44:44] | quicksilver: | found it |
| [12:44:57] | quicksilver: | Hmm. |
| [12:44:58] | justinh: | s/miracles/flukes |
| [12:45:07] | quicksilver: | So, the OSD looks fine until it actual locks to the channel |
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| [12:45:16] | quicksilver: | once it locks to the channel, the OSD goes all flickery |
| [12:45:25] | justinh: | there are much better deinterlacers than bob2x now |
| [12:45:36] | ** quicksilver wonders which deint he is using ** | |
| [12:45:47] | laga: | i love the new deinterlacers |
| [12:45:55] | quicksilver: | this is all playback profiles stuff? |
| [12:46:37] | justinh: | gah http://svn.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/4743 is still open. I was kinda hoping it'd be accepted. must be bigger fish to fry than mine |
| [12:47:13] | justinh: | I could accept it if I knew it worked with trunk, and I had a blessing from the secret order |
| [12:48:20] | justinh: | might not even apply anymore & no way of knowing without trunkage |
| [12:50:02] | laga: | trunk is too scary for me right now |
| [12:50:37] | quicksilver: | soh. |
| [12:50:49] | quicksilver: | Didn't notice the playback profile window had a second page |
| [12:50:52] | quicksilver: | there is the deinterlace stuff |
| [12:51:16] | quicksilver: | which one do you recommend? |
| [12:52:26] | quicksilver: | greed 2x appears to have fixed the symptoms. |
| [12:53:00] | justinh: | w00t w00t |
| [12:53:32] | quicksilver: | should I switch from qt to opengl? |
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| [12:55:36] | justinh: | dunno, should you? |
| [12:56:02] | quicksilver: | seems to work, at least. |
| [12:56:05] | quicksilver: | PiP works, too. |
| [12:56:14] | quicksilver: | frontend using about 25% cpu |
| [12:56:36] | quicksilver: | PiP is a bit odd when the other card is on a 4:3 channel and this one is 16:9... |
| [12:57:10] | quicksilver: | all in all that was *much* simpler than I expected. |
| [12:57:18] | quicksilver: | kudos to everyone who was involved! |
| [12:57:46] | quicksilver: | OOh. gratuitous fade between menus in opengl painte :P |
| [13:01:45] | quicksilver: | justinh: in your opinion what is the best 4:3 theme at the moment? |
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| [13:29:00] | justinh: | quicksilver: none of the above |
| [13:29:20] | quicksilver: | justinh: Hmm :P |
| [13:29:25] | justinh: | and fwiw, the menu fade has been around a long time |
| [13:29:38] | ** justinh will not be drawn on all that 'best theme' posturing ** | |
| [13:29:52] | quicksilver: | I'm just asking for your opinion ;) |
| [13:30:02] | justinh: | I have a new version of glass-wide I'm happy with. not available in any shops |
| [13:30:05] | quicksilver: | like 'which theme would you use for a new 4:3 box?' |
| [13:30:07] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [13:30:57] | justinh: | if I had to stick my neck out I'd say Retro now that most of the core graphics have been relieved of their jaggies |
| [13:31:25] | justinh: | I'll refrain from commenting on the other 4:3 themes |
| [13:32:14] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [13:32:19] | quicksilver: | retro looks good to me |
| [13:32:33] | quicksilver: | quite like hte retro OSD too |
| [13:32:39] | justinh: | it's not offensive like mythcenter is |
| [13:33:03] | justinh: | I still plan to tart it up a bit one day but I'm in no rush |
| [13:35:04] | quicksilver: | for my next trick, I will fbring my analog card back from the dead so I can record channel 4 again |
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| [13:51:08] | justinh: | that bad, eh |
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| [13:52:14] | justinh: | I've recently had problems with UNCs on the BBC multiplex. not signal strength related – more quality related due to bad coax & plugs. might have to resort to ready-made leads but they'll be too long to be nice |
| [13:52:36] | justinh: | maybe I need an attenuator |
| [13:52:58] | justinh: | that's the thing – too little signal to split 3 ways & preset gain on the aerial amp |
| [13:54:28] | quicksilver: | justinh: I'm in chelmsford, we dont' have coverage at all officially |
| [13:54:39] | quicksilver: | justinh: however, the strong muxes you can pick up from crystal palace |
| [13:54:46] | quicksilver: | which is quite some distance from chelmsford. |
| [13:54:58] | quicksilver: | I plan to get a decent high-gain aerial and recabling and hope that fixes it. |
| [13:55:44] | quicksilver: | this is a stopgap measure until then. |
| [13:57:43] | justinh: | should be fine once the big switch-off comes |
| [13:57:52] | justinh: | we all getting 10x power boost |
| [13:58:08] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [13:58:14] | quicksilver: | a year or two to wait, though. |
| [13:58:17] | mjj29: | dammit |
| [13:58:37] | quicksilver: | hmm. xawtv displaying B&W static |
| [13:58:41] | mjj29: | why does mythcommflag on a 2hr recording always cause my machine to thrash itself to death |
| [13:58:42] | quicksilver: | I think that means the card is working. |
| [13:58:48] | quicksilver: | I wonder how to tune it. |
| [13:59:19] | quicksilver: | I thought I had a channel config file around |
| [14:00:13] | quicksilver: | ah. scantv. |
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| [14:05:37] | quicksilver: | that's odd. None of my cards show any analogue reception. |
| [14:05:41] | quicksilver: | I'm sure this used to work. |
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| [14:10:42] | quicksilver: | Hmm. Probably the hybrid ones don't work because myth has 'opened' them in DVB mode. |
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| [14:18:51] | justinh: | ugh the hybrids is evil. did you not watch Invasion? ;) |
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| [14:29:37] | justinh: | oh no! Humph has died :( |
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| [14:35:40] | quicksilver: | what was a simple commandline tool to play DVB to check a card is working? |
| [14:35:59] | justinh: | femon |
| [14:36:06] | justinh: | assuming mythbackend is running |
| [14:36:14] | justinh: | or tzap :) |
| [14:38:17] | quicksilver: | yeah, tzap will do I guess. |
| [14:38:22] | quicksilver: | All three cards work fine in DVB mode |
| [14:38:30] | quicksilver: | well they can all lock to 'BBC ONE' |
| [14:38:34] | quicksilver: | I guess that makes them fine. |
| [14:39:11] | quicksilver: | is there an alternative to xawtv for analog? |
| [14:39:15] | quicksilver: | in case my xawtv is broken? |
| [14:46:43] | LabMonkey: | ok here's a fun question |
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| [14:47:02] | Weezey: | anyone using the latest SVN? |
| [14:47:13] | Weezey: | give or take a couple of days |
| [14:48:00] | LabMonkey: | if I want to rip my DVDs to ISO and play them in mythtv/xine as if I inserted the DVD into the drive, is there some kind of plugin or script which already exists to handle the loop-mounting or something? |
| [14:49:41] | LabMonkey: | that way I could just rip my DVDs and put all of the ISOs on some big storage so I can be lazy and use mythtv like a dvd jukebox |
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| [14:58:26] | GreyFoxx: | LabMonkey: most apps will play dvd isos directly, no script invovled |
| [14:58:29] | GreyFoxx: | including myth |
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| [14:58:44] | LabMonkey: | hrm |
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| [14:59:12] | LabMonkey: | so xine can accept an iso as a valid mrl? |
| [14:59:30] | GreyFoxx: | I would expect so |
| [14:59:38] | GreyFoxx: | I've sure I've done it |
| [14:59:46] | GreyFoxx: | but I haven't touched xine in years |
| [14:59:50] | GreyFoxx: | I use myth for everything |
| [15:00:18] | LabMonkey: | hrm |
| [15:00:45] | LabMonkey: | I didn't know myth could play stuff like divx and so on itself |
| [15:01:12] | LabMonkey: | lemme tinker with the video options for a minute |
| [15:01:25] | GreyFoxx: | yes the internal player willl play juust about everything |
| [15:02:12] | quicksilver: | grah! Why won't my analogue tuners tune. |
| [15:02:24] | quicksilver: | the v4l wiki seems short on troubleshooting stuff. |
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| [15:06:23] | quicksilver: | surely if I can get static out of the card that means it is basically working? |
| [15:06:32] | quicksilver: | but then why can't it tune? |
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| [15:08:28] | quicksilver: | woo! found some channels. |
| [15:08:38] | quicksilver: | Have no idea what I am doing differently though. |
| [15:09:16] | quicksilver: | I hate computers. I really do. |
| [15:09:23] | quicksilver: | Lots of channels now. and no idea what I'm doing differently. |
| [15:10:47] | quicksilver: | Damn it. It *is* the dvb thing. |
| [15:11:06] | quicksilver: | Once you try to use the DVB half of the tuner, the analog half starts producing static. |
| [15:11:42] | quicksilver: | and I have a cronjob which restarts the myth backend every 15 mintues in case it crashes :P |
| [15:15:15] | Weezey: | quicksilver: hey! me too! |
| [15:15:24] | quicksilver: | ;) |
| [15:15:40] | Weezey: | stopped all the calls from my neighbours |
| [15:16:05] | Weezey: | we have a network cable running around the yards into the houses. |
| [15:16:44] | a1fa: | is mythtvfilldatabase supposed to run automatically? |
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| [15:16:51] | a1fa: | if so.. how? |
| [15:16:56] | a1fa: | cron? |
| [15:17:27] | a1fa: | mythbackend? |
| [15:18:00] | Weezey: | you can do either |
| [15:18:24] | Weezey: | cron is not preferred, but here's a good entry: 01 10 * * * sleep $(expr $RANDOM \% 14400) && mythfilldatabase > /var/log/mythtv/mythfilldatabase.log 2>&1 |
| [15:18:55] | Weezey: | there's also the "Run mythfilldatabase at a time suggested by the grabber" option |
| [15:19:07] | a1fa: | where is that located? |
| [15:19:08] | quicksilver: | you don't really need the cron thing anymore |
| [15:19:15] | quicksilver: | mythbackend can schedule it automatically |
| [15:19:19] | quicksilver: | (and randomise it) |
| [15:19:30] | a1fa: | it used to be setup this way |
| [15:19:31] | quicksilver: | you just need to turn it on in settings |
| [15:19:34] | a1fa: | where do i find that option? |
| [15:19:41] | a1fa: | mythtv-setup? |
| [15:19:49] | quicksilver: | no, in the settings setion of the frontend |
| [15:20:01] | Weezey: | a1fa: http://wilsonet.com/mythtv/fcmyth.php#setupmythtv |
| [15:21:11] | a1fa: | which part? |
| [15:22:07] | Weezey: | just scroll down a bit to the part about mythfilldatabase |
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| [15:51:32] | quicksilver: | OK, all cards working on new kernel, but not LIRC |
| [15:51:33] | quicksilver: | bah |
| [15:51:44] | quicksilver: | what was the name of the command to test lirc at the commandline? |
| [15:53:27] | jduggan: | irw ? |
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| [15:58:16] | quicksilver: | hmm |
| [15:58:19] | quicksilver: | wierdness |
| [15:58:25] | quicksilver: | irrecord doesn't like /dev/lirc0 |
| [15:58:32] | quicksilver: | but if I "cat < /dev/lirc0" |
| [15:58:34] | quicksilver: | and hit buttons |
| [15:58:40] | quicksilver: | I get the usual mishmash on screen |
| [15:59:02] | quicksilver: | ah. |
| [15:59:10] | quicksilver: | lirc version dodesn't match module verion, that could be it |
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| [16:15:36] | quicksilver: | hmm grrr |
| [16:15:41] | quicksilver: | I think this is a 32/64 problem. |
| [16:15:52] | quicksilver: | lirc or imon incompatible with 64 bit kernel |
| [16:16:44] | iamlindoro: | quicksilver: Which iMon are you using? |
| [16:17:02] | quicksilver: | the one which came with a silverstone case |
| [16:17:11] | iamlindoro: | Works fine in 64 bit, as does lirc |
| [16:17:21] | quicksilver: | I get this error in my dmesg |
| [16:17:38] | quicksilver: | Apr 26 17:14:49 champagne kernel: ioctl32(irrecord:3987): Unknown cmd fd(4) cmd(80046900){t:'i';sz:4} arg(0806f2c8) on /dev/lirc0 |
| [16:17:52] | quicksilver: | doing a bit of googline around suggests that is typical of 32/64bit problems |
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| [16:18:40] | quicksilver: | it works fine with the kernel I used to use |
| [16:19:03] | iamlindoro: | All I know is I set that imon up in 64 bit ubuntu w/o issues, so it's not inherently incompatible w/ a 64 bit kernel |
| [16:19:44] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [16:19:49] | quicksilver: | well obviously something odd going on |
| [16:20:00] | quicksilver: | I'm trying a different kernel as an experiment |
| [16:21:55] | quicksilver: | iamlindoro: which kernel modules do you have loaded? lirc_imon and lirc_dev? |
| [16:22:29] | iamlindoro: | quicksilver: It's my folk's box, it's over at their house, so I couldn't tell you |
| [16:22:34] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [16:23:02] | quicksilver: | it could, for example, be a problem with lirc_imon and 2.6.24 |
| [16:23:06] | quicksilver: | and nothing todo with 32/64 bit |
| [16:23:12] | quicksilver: | changing too many variables at once :) |
| [16:23:36] | iamlindoro: | IIRC their kernel is 2.6.23 |
| [16:23:56] | iamlindoro: | maybe earlier, but I think that's it... definitely not .24 though |
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| [16:24:42] | quicksilver: | ok, that's weird. FATAL: Error inserting lirc_imon (/lib/modules/2.6.24-1–486/extra/lirc/lirc_imon.ko): Invalid module format |
| [16:24:51] | quicksilver: | so it doesn't even insert on .24 – 486 |
| [16:25:02] | quicksilver: | .24 – amd64 it inserts fine but irrecord and lircd won't run. |
| [16:25:07] | quicksilver: | time to backtrack to an older kernel. |
| [16:30:27] | quicksilver: | yup, looks like lirc wasn't 2.6.24 compatible. |
| [16:30:36] | quicksilver: | there are changes in the upstream source to fix it |
| [16:30:42] | quicksilver: | but I bet this debian package doesn't have them. |
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| [16:34:23] | quicksilver: | yes, released lirc only supports 2.6.20 |
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| [16:38:23] | quicksilver: | I have a 2.6.20 kernel |
| [16:38:27] | quicksilver: | but, alas, not the headers for it |
| [16:38:30] | quicksilver: | *scream* |
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| [16:46:33] | quicksilver: | damn it |
| [16:46:42] | quicksilver: | even with 0.8.3pre2 it doesn't work |
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| [16:52:54] | justdave: | hmm :( Was running a the Ubuntu Hardy beta, just upgraded to final and it killed my sound |
| [16:54:43] | justinh: | linux for human beings with degrees in linux kernel driver development :P |
| [16:56:26] | justdave: | hmm, have to mess with it later, have a cousin's first communion to go watch this afternoon |
| [16:57:08] | justinh: | wear goggles. I hear the blood spatters at those gigs |
| [16:57:36] | ** justinh thinks he might've started drinking too early. sorry ** | |
| [17:04:14] | quicksilver: | hallelujah. |
| [17:04:18] | quicksilver: | lirc running in 2.6.24 |
| [17:04:28] | quicksilver: | iamlindoro: interestingly, I still couldn't make it run in .24-amd64 |
| [17:04:37] | LabMonkey: | uhm |
| [17:04:41] | quicksilver: | iamlindoro: but I compiled it successfully against 2.6.24–486 |
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| [17:06:21] | quicksilver: | now to see if I can make debian cope with a mixed setup where some lirc stuff is their packages and some is hand-compiled. |
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| [17:07:15] | justinh: | ugh |
| [17:07:25] | justinh: | sounds like a recipe |
| [17:09:33] | quicksilver: | well the only part which is in debian packages is liblircclient |
| [17:09:36] | quicksilver: | or whatever its called |
| [17:09:39] | quicksilver: | hopefully that's safe enough |
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| [17:14:24] | quicksilver: | woo woo |
| [17:14:27] | quicksilver: | it bloody works. |
| [17:14:32] | quicksilver: | what a nightmare it has been |
| [17:14:38] | quicksilver: | glad I budgetted a whole day for this upgrade... |
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| [17:17:21] | quicksilver: | justinh: something strnage about the retro OSD. Sometimes the font is all squished up. And sometimes not. |
| [17:17:35] | quicksilver: | justinh: seems to depend on the aspect ratio/zoom mode of the underlying channel |
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| [17:48:37] | justinh: | quicksilver: comment out the font definitions in osd.xml |
| [17:53:56] | justinh: | as far as I know that workaround should work fine |
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| [17:59:10] | quicksilver: | justinh: interesting, thank you. |
| [17:59:13] | quicksilver: | justinh: what causes it? |
| [18:00:07] | sphery: | quicksilver: Unknown. If you figure it out, let us know. :) |
| [18:00:16] | justinh: | ditto ^^ |
| [18:00:39] | quicksilver: | "comment out" is <!-- --> in XML ? |
| [18:00:44] | sphery: | yep |
| [18:01:12] | sphery: | specifically, comment out just the <filename> element |
| [18:02:02] | sphery: | I just wish I could reproduce the issue so I could work on fixing it... |
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| [18:03:17] | sphery: | quicksilver: would you say that in your "sometimes," it appears that the sometimes it is squished is on low-resolution video? |
| [18:03:36] | quicksilver: | sphery: well, all my video is UK DVB-T |
| [18:03:42] | J-e-f-f-A: | ooh! I just discovered 'synergy'... ;-) cool, now I can use one kb/mouse for all my systems in my |
| [18:03:47] | quicksilver: | sphery: but different channels appear to do something slightly different? |
| [18:03:48] | J-e-f-f-A: | 'cave'...;-) |
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| [18:04:11] | quicksilver: | sphery: I thought all UK DVB-T was 720x576. So I don't really understand. |
| [18:04:18] | quicksilver: | sphery: somethign to with 4:3 and 16:9 and autozoom? |
| [18:04:47] | jsumners: | i have "enable autotranscode" enabled in the recording profile and the show recording settings, but mythtv 0.21 doesn't automatically transcode new recordings. am i missing something? |
| [18:05:07] | ** sphery wishes he still had that link gbee once posted to all the UK DVB-T channels/stream properties ** | |
| [18:05:26] | sphery: | jsumners: do you have it enabled on the backend(s)? |
| [18:05:37] | jsumners: | sphery: i don't know |
| [18:05:53] | jsumners: | the frontend and the backend are the same machine |
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| [18:06:03] | jsumners: | how do i check? |
| [18:06:43] | sphery: | in mythtv-setup: Allow Transcoding jobs: Allow jobs of this type to run on this backend. |
| [18:07:04] | sphery: | Under the main backend settings (General?) on like page 150... |
| [18:07:18] | sphery: | (that was an exaggeration, but you get the idea) |
| [18:08:47] | jsumners: | if that wasn't set, would manually setting a recording to transcode work? |
| [18:08:47] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery, Actually, it's on page 148, so you were close... ;-) (just kidding...) |
| [18:08:53] | sphery: | :) |
| [18:09:19] | jsumners: | because i can queue the recordings to be transcoded and they will be. they just don't do it automatically |
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| [18:10:08] | ** J-e-f-f-A likes "synergy"... wow, I could almost get away with just one kb & mouse now for my 4 systems on my desk now... ;-) ** | |
| [18:11:44] | quicksilver: | sphery: as of this moment, the OSD looks wrong on all of BBC ONE through FOUR, five, and so on. But "The HITS" which is a music video channel the OSD looks fine. |
| [18:11:54] | quicksilver: | sphery: is there some investigation I can do to help explain? |
| [18:12:41] | quicksilver: | sphery: I'm sure it's something to with aspect ratio + zoom. |
| [18:12:51] | quicksilver: | sphery: if I cycle through the aspect ratio options I can make it go wrong. |
| [18:14:02] | quicksilver: | meanwhile on BBC ONE there is no aspect ratio choice which makes it 'right' |
| [18:14:08] | quicksilver: | but there are definitely some which make it worse. |
| [18:15:35] | J-e-f-f-A: | quicksilver, Hey – looks like a commit was just made to fix this... #5256 – this morning... |
| [18:16:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | quicksilver, "the osd char spacing is sometimes incorrect. notably SD dvb res 720x576 |
| [18:16:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | 16:9 images being displayed on 16:9 displays. |
| [18:16:02] | J-e-f-f-A: | " |
| [18:16:43] | sphery: | Mark Spieth was working on it... |
| [18:16:58] | quicksilver: | J-e-f-f-A: well that sounds exactly like it. |
| [18:17:42] | sphery: | Though, that's only a ticket (still needs review). You could manually apply the patch within if you compile yourself. |
| [18:18:46] | quicksilver: | I'm using packages at the moment. |
| [18:18:49] | quicksilver: | I might try, though. |
| [18:19:05] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery, Oops, ticket, commit... ;-) Got that one mixed up... ;-) |
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| [18:23:01] | sphery: | J-e-f-f-A: Funny thing is I was reading through the tickets folder in my e-mail and was 2 messages before that one when I noticed the discussion here... :) |
| [18:23:08] | quicksilver: | sphery, justinh : well at the cost of ugly courier every where, the workaround works. |
| [18:23:18] | quicksilver: | if I have a chance later I'll try the patch. |
| [18:23:36] | J-e-f-f-A: | sphery, I had a mail come in, jumped over, there, and saw the title... ;-) |
| [18:23:50] | sphery: | quicksilver: that "Courier" is probably FreeMono |
| [18:23:54] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [18:24:00] | quicksilver: | typewrite stylee anyhow. |
| [18:24:12] | sphery: | quicksilver: you can change it with OSD font in frontend settings. |
| [18:24:15] | ** quicksilver nods ** | |
| [18:24:34] | quicksilver: | I'm apt-get source'ing my mythtv package with a view to trying the patch |
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| [18:25:41] | sphery: | I'm wishing mark had posted a reference to support the claim that freetype is broken... |
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| [18:31:39] | quicksilver: | debian/rules binary |
| [18:31:41] | quicksilver: | here goes :) |
| [18:39:15] | Aval0n-: | a properly encoded x264 mks will be as good as a true blu-ray or hd-dvd movie correct? |
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| [18:54:20] | quicksilver: | damn myth takes a long time to compile :P |
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| [19:00:35] | iamlindoro: | Aval0n-: The only way an mkv of a blu-ray movie will be as good as the original is if you just copy the streams into the new container without any transcoding whatsoever (ie leaving it 30–50 GB) |
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| [19:14:25] | Anduin: | quicksilver: better hardware can solve that |
| [19:17:44] | jsumners: | sphery: finally got a chance to look at the backend settings for transcoding. yes, i have the allow transcoding option checked in the backend settings |
| [19:18:30] | jsumners: | but the mkv can still look damn good |
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| [19:34:29] | justinh: | maybe it's just me, but freemono always seemed like something you can catch |
| [19:36:16] | sphery: | justinh: Only if you kiss open source... |
| [19:36:38] | iamlindoro: | Free as in herpes |
| [19:37:05] | justinh: | open sores! |
| [19:38:48] | sphery: | now that's just wrong |
| [19:39:28] | sphery: | (Normally, I really like puns, but that one is too bad. Probably just because I didn't think of it--and it would have made my joke even better.) |
| [19:39:35] | justinh: | lol |
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| [19:40:03] | justinh: | well time to hit town & get wrecked |
| [19:40:09] | justinh: | nn all |
| [19:40:19] | sphery: | have fun |
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| [19:43:27] | Weezey: | anyone using the latest SVN? (give or take a few days) |
| [19:44:20] | sphery: | No. Most of us actually read the warning on the lists that said not to use current (trunk) SVN. :) |
| [19:44:38] | sphery: | Did you have a specific question about it? |
| [19:45:02] | Weezey: | Just wondering if it was really buggy right now or just kinda buggy |
| [19:45:26] | sphery: | If you're using any version of Myth before the Qt4 port, you shouldn't use current trunk. |
| [19:45:30] | Anduin: | Weezey: Yes |
| [19:45:48] | sphery: | Unless, of course, you prefer spending time writing patches to fix the issues that still need fixing. |
| [19:46:16] | sphery: | (as opposed to spending time watching TV/using Myth) |
| [19:46:24] | sphery: | Weezey: What version are you using? |
| [19:46:27] | Weezey: | hmm, quite the dilemma. |
| [19:46:57] | Weezey: | maybe I'll set up a test environment for a trunk build. |
| [19:47:04] | sphery: | Why? |
| [19:47:11] | sphery: | Why not just use 0.21-fixes? |
| [19:48:07] | Weezey: | just wanted to see what all the qt4 hub-ub was about |
| [19:48:36] | sphery: | It doesn't do anything for the end user. At least, not yet. |
| [19:48:54] | sphery: | 0.21-fixes is the right one to use. |
| [19:49:45] | Weezey: | I've been running a 0.21-trunk build since November or so, I probably should update to the fixes version at least. |
| [19:50:55] | sphery: | Right. If you have an appropriate version (what trunk revision?), you can do an svn switch to release-0-21-fixes and then just upgrade. |
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| [19:51:19] | sphery: | Then, later--when trunk is in a better "end-user" state--you can svn switch back to trunk. |
| [19:52:50] | sphery: | Weezey: something like: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/323534#323534 |
| [19:53:15] | Weezey: | rev: 14763 |
| [19:53:28] | Weezey: | Last Changed Date: 2007-10–28 10:44:06 -0400 (Sun, 28 Oct 2007) |
| [19:54:34] | Weezey: | I'll switch it up, thanks for the advice. |
| [19:56:02] | sphery: | I need FF3 for some of the javascript in trac... |
| [19:57:05] | sphery: | Weezey: Yeah, from that rev, there are absolutely no problems switching to 0.21-fixes. It will even have some "trunk" stuff that your trunk rev doesn't have. |
| [19:57:49] | sphery: | I really think that's your best bet. You can run current trunk if you want, but if you just want a working DVR, 0.21-fixes is probably a /much/ better option for a while. |
| [19:57:50] | Weezey: | Yeah, I noticed in the release notes for 0.21 that there's some stuff I'd been having issues with that had been fixed. |
| [19:58:04] | Weezey: | good call |
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| [20:32:19] | TelnetManta: | any dvbs guys around today |
| [20:32:21] | TelnetManta: | ?? |
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| [20:54:27] | Speedy2: | Hey all. Anyone here using Myth with Intel Integrated Graphics (i915/i945)? |
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| [21:23:10] | Aval0n-: | what player are you pplz using for mks stuff? |
| [21:23:12] | Aval0n-: | x264 |
| [21:23:19] | Aval0n-: | internal mythtv or mplayer? |
| [21:24:04] | GreyFoxx: | Internal here |
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| [21:24:37] | Aval0n-: | cool |
| [21:24:43] | Aval0n-: | what cpu greyfoxx? |
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| [21:24:58] | quicksilver: | sphery: I can confirm that patch fixes the rpoblem for me. |
| [21:25:06] | Aval0n-: | wha tproblem quicksiler |
| [21:25:17] | GreyFoxx: | Aval0n-: Until last night a Sempron 2600+, as of today an X2 5200 |
| [21:25:25] | Aval0n-: | greyfoxx: when I try to play an mks file |
| [21:25:29] | quicksilver: | Aval0n-: funny text spacing on the OSD |
| [21:25:33] | Aval0n-: | it never asks if I wanna play from bookmark or from beginning |
| [21:25:38] | Aval0n-: | quicksilver: ahh |
| [21:25:52] | elg: | can I set up a user job to transcode instead of using mythtranscode? I find the options for transcoding profiles insufficient. I know a user job can transcode, but I guess my question is will myth be able to see the transcoded version if I e.g. give it the same name (possibly different extension)? |
| [21:25:53] | Aval0n-: | it just always resumes for me |
| [21:26:12] | GreyFoxx: | Aval0n-: I have the "ask" stuff turned off so I never notice |
| [21:26:25] | GreyFoxx: | I prefer it to auto start at the bookmnark if one exists |
| [21:26:32] | Aval0n-: | how do you reset it |
| [21:26:39] | Aval0n-: | if you WANT to start at beginning |
| [21:26:50] | GreyFoxx: | just exit again and start |
| [21:27:03] | Aval0n-: | won't that just make another bookmark? |
| [21:27:12] | Aval0n-: | a few seconds later |
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| [21:27:20] | GreyFoxx: | I guess it might if you have it set to auto bookmnark which I don't |
| [21:27:25] | GreyFoxx: | I manually set all bookmarks |
| [21:27:38] | Aval0n-: | with the pause button? |
| [21:27:46] | GreyFoxx: | I have it mapped to Enter |
| [21:27:49] | Aval0n-: | internal player freezes up a lot for me |
| [21:27:55] | Aval0n-: | ahh cool |
| [21:27:58] | GreyFoxx: | I hit enter on my remote to set/clear bookmarks |
| [21:29:45] | Aval0n-: | does it have a menu that comes up that asks what you want to do? |
| [21:29:50] | Aval0n-: | or does it just say position saved? |
| [21:30:13] | GreyFoxx: | position saved/cleared |
| [21:30:16] | Aval0n-: | ahh ok |
| [21:30:28] | Aval0n-: | using internal play for my mks stuff is a little weird sometimes |
| [21:30:38] | Aval0n-: | I'll ffwd... but when I hit play it jumps back a bit and plays |
| [21:30:48] | Aval0n-: | like it would a standard recording |
| [21:31:02] | GreyFoxx: | Only problems I'm aware of are pre 0.21 or if the mkv has a subtitle track which myth doesn;'t handle well |
| [21:31:07] | GreyFoxx: | none of mine do |
| [21:31:16] | Aval0n-: | interesting |
| [21:31:19] | EvilGuru: | Is there any way to change the number of jobs run at once without restarting/stopping the backene? |
| [21:31:22] | Aval0n-: | I wonder if it's a setting I have toggled somwhere |
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| [21:33:29] | clever: | elg: i tweaked one of the perl scripts to transcode with mencoder |
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| [21:33:38] | clever: | elg: so that it updated the basename in mysql to the new filename |
| [21:34:02] | clever: | that was enough to get it working |
| [21:34:23] | elg: | so the filename (including extension) is stored in the db then |
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| [21:34:29] | clever: | yep |
| [21:34:39] | clever: | recorded table, basename |
| [21:34:52] | clever: | chanid&starttime are used as the uniq key |
| [21:35:03] | clever: | but you can probly get away with using the old basename |
| [21:35:11] | elg: | you hacked an existing perl file? |
| [21:35:17] | clever: | yeah |
| [21:35:32] | clever: | i'll pastebin the svn diff |
| [21:36:35] | quicksilver: | sphery: I added a comment to the trac ticket to confirm it works for me. |
| [21:38:00] | clever: | elg: http://clever.mine.nu:81/myencode http://clever.mine.nu:81/mythencoder.patch |
| [21:39:02] | clever: | its also been hacked up to only work on mpg files |
| [21:39:24] | clever: | it was nuv only |
| [21:40:23] | clever: | also it doesnt delete the original yet |
| [21:40:32] | clever: | so it can easily leave several gig of orphan file |
| [21:40:33] | clever: | s |
| [21:41:30] | clever: | i was using it to replace mythtranscode because qt4 made that explode |
| [21:41:37] | clever: | but its since been fixed so ive gone back |
| [21:41:54] | clever: | but i have used it recently to transcode to my cellphone |
| [21:42:19] | clever: | and i forgot it touched basename so the thing killed mythtv for a few hours:P |
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| [21:44:15] | elg: | all my untranscoded stuff is .mpg (mpeg2 – from hdhomerun). if I transcoded and then moved the new file over top of the old one, could I get around mucking with the db? |
| [21:44:37] | clever: | sounds ok |
| [21:44:44] | clever: | but the db may have the old seek table in place |
| [21:44:59] | elg: | i'll give it a try and see what happens |
| [21:45:00] | clever: | i think i had problems from using the mpg seek table on the much smaller avi file |
| [21:45:19] | clever: | also sticking avi in a .mpg may confuse some things |
| [21:45:31] | clever: | some programs like mplayer dont care about extension |
| [21:45:39] | clever: | others like eog cant open a png if its in a .jpg |
| [21:46:12] | elg: | yeah, i'll probably use the same container to avoid confusino |
| [21:46:26] | elg: | what is the seektable exatly? |
| [21:46:36] | clever: | lists off seconds and byte offsets |
| [21:46:44] | clever: | so if you want to jump to 120 seconds from the start |
| [21:46:49] | clever: | it knows how many bytes in it is |
| [21:47:22] | clever: | the mpg from hardware encoders lacks the seek data |
| [21:47:32] | clever: | so mythbackend generates it on the fly(to the database) as it records |
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| [21:47:56] | clever: | but mythtranscode puts it into the file when it transcodes i beleive |
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| [21:54:43] | Aval0n-: | anyone know if it's possible yet to play a blu-ray movie with a blu-ray drive in linux yet? |
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| [21:56:31] | iamlindoro: | Aval0n-: Nothing's changed in the month or so since you last asked-- when it changes, people will likely make a big deal about it |
| [21:57:05] | Aval0n-: | hmm |
| [21:57:23] | Aval0n-: | well I found out that winbloze does it now |
| [21:57:32] | iamlindoro: | Windows has for several years |
| [21:57:41] | Aval0n-: | since cyberlink has release it's plugin for powerdvd |
| [21:57:49] | Aval0n-: | ahh |
| [21:57:54] | Aval0n-: | I thought this was something new. |
| [21:58:00] | iamlindoro: | Nope, several years old |
| [21:58:06] | Aval0n-: | interesting. |
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| [21:58:26] | jedix: | hey |
| [21:58:45] | jedix: | how can I get rid of live tv programs I watched from the database? |
| [21:58:47] | Aval0n-: | <rsk> it's possible since long time Aval0n- |
| [21:58:52] | Aval0n-: | says the dude in #mplayer |
| [21:59:28] | iamlindoro: | Now ask him if you can play an encrypted disk straight off the disk, or a BD+ encrypted disk at all |
| [21:59:34] | iamlindoro: | (hint: No) |
| [22:00:14] | iamlindoro: | Then ask him in mplayer has native support for MLP, E-AC3 or lossless audio tracks on the disks |
| [22:00:18] | iamlindoro: | (hint: No) |
| [22:00:35] | jedix: | it doesn't do ac3? |
| [22:00:42] | jedix: | or encrypted ac3? |
| [22:00:50] | iamlindoro: | e-ac3 is not encrypted ac3 |
| [22:01:13] | jedix: | what is it? |
| [22:01:16] | iamlindoro: | it's an entirely different format from ac3, although they will end up using the same parser |
| [22:01:21] | jedix: | oh |
| [22:02:06] | iamlindoro: | totally different codec, just somewhat related. E-AC3 is a High-definition audio codec, for which there is no support whatsoever in mplayer right now w/o patching. |
| [22:03:00] | armbar: | is 70M large for a mythtv db? |
| [22:03:04] | iamlindoro: | no |
| [22:03:25] | Aval0n-: | haha iam: they are very very confused in there |
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| [22:03:45] | armbar: | iamlindoro ok |
| [22:03:55] | Aval0n-: | so what is powerdvd doing that linux can't |
| [22:04:22] | iamlindoro: | Aval0n-: using a licensed decryption library and fully implemented versions of the codecs on the disks |
| [22:04:32] | Aval0n-: | ahh |
| [22:04:42] | iamlindoro: | both of which linux lacks |
| [22:04:47] | Aval0n-: | so probably not coming to linux any time soo eh? |
| [22:05:16] | jedix: | there's a dvd thing that you can buy that does it legally for dvds |
| [22:05:20] | jedix: | probably they will |
| [22:05:20] | Lynet: | Aval0n: Well, thats DRM for you.. |
| [22:05:21] | iamlindoro: | support for all the audio formats in underway in ffmpeg, may see those all working properly by early fall... regarding decryption... well, beter hope DVD Jon isn't busy right now |
| [22:06:07] | kdubya: | really unfortunate you cant play blu ray off of a disc |
| [22:06:13] | kdubya: | id buy one right now |
| [22:06:57] | Aval0n-: | yeah so would I |
| [22:07:22] | ** iamlindoro goes back to watching his Blu-ray rip of Total Recall in MythVideo ** | |
| [22:07:34] | Aval0n-: | I might build a play htpc using mediaportal |
| [22:07:41] | Aval0n-: | just to check it out |
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| [22:15:49] | antgel: | hi all, suddenly weird issues playing dvds. in particular a certain one. what is interesting is that the dvd in question plays using xine on a different box. on my mythtv box, i just get numerous "NVP: prebuffering pause" messages. |
| [22:16:06] | jedix: | what does "transcode failed with status: 247" mean? |
| [22:16:35] | clever: | jedix: it did a exit(247); |
| [22:16:44] | antgel: | using 0.21–0.13 version of mythtv. oh, and in the previous version of mythtv, chapters 1 and 2 played fine, but chapter 3 didn't. now, not even 1 and 2 play. |
| [22:16:48] | jedix: | yes, but what woudl teh problem be |
| [22:17:44] | antgel: | a clue would be appreciated, i don't expect hand-holding but i have tried lots of things and i'm running out of ideas |
| [22:18:39] | antgel: | oh, the dvd-rom light flashes, and the vfd indicates that the disk is playing. however no myth buttons function – i can't get to the menu |
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| [22:27:40] | Aval0n-: | bad dvd drive? |
| [22:28:48] | antgel: | Aval0n-: thanks for responding. i was starting to wonder if i was clear enough. other disks work fine in this drive – i have just tried two others. additionally, on the disk that is failing, the chapter menu works fine |
| [22:29:08] | Aval0n-: | scratched dvd? |
| [22:29:30] | antgel: | Aval0n-: works fine on my laptop, and is a peach to look at :) |
| [22:29:35] | Aval0n-: | hmm |
| [22:29:47] | Aval0n-: | have you tried using mplayer or vlc to play it? |
| [22:29:55] | antgel: | Aval0n-: works fine under /xine/ on my laptop, that is, with same library versions |
| [22:30:08] | Aval0n-: | that's not a good diagnosis though |
| [22:30:20] | Aval0n-: | different players have different lasers/hardware read discs differently |
| [22:30:25] | antgel: | Aval0n-: so what do i do, try with xine on my mythtv box? |
| [22:30:31] | Aval0n-: | you need tp try it on xine with the same box |
| [22:30:34] | Aval0n-: | yes |
| [22:30:38] | Aval0n-: | what OS? |
| [22:30:38] | antgel: | okay, 1 min |
| [22:31:55] | antgel: | linux 2.6.18, debian lenny |
| [22:33:12] | Aval0n-: | I use vlc to play my movies through mythtv |
| [22:33:15] | Aval0n-: | but that's just me |
| [22:33:22] | Aval0n-: | many people just use the internal player |
| [22:33:23] | Aval0n-: | or mplayer |
| [22:33:31] | antgel: | Aval0n-: works fine in xine! so it's not hardware. but i don't understand if it's a bug in myth's internal player – how come my other dvds play okay? |
| [22:33:45] | Aval0n-: | not sure man |
| [22:33:48] | Aval0n-: | could just be a bug |
| [22:33:48] | antgel: | Aval0n-: *nod* i try to keep it simple by using the internal player |
| [22:34:04] | Aval0n-: | aye |
| [22:34:33] | antgel: | okay, i'll raise a bug report with as much info as i can |
| [22:36:12] | antgel: | thanks for your help |
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| [22:37:25] | Aval0n-: | internal player is very buggy with my x264 stuff for some reason |
| [22:37:33] | Aval0n-: | lockups out of nowhere |
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| [23:42:16] | keith4__: | when I start watching a movie using mythvideo, the keyboard stops working, and I can't exit mplayer |
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| [23:42:42] | keith4__: | the only way I can figure out to stop it is to ssh in and kill mplayer |
| [23:43:05] | keith4__: | and then mythfrontend gets all my keypresses that were queued up |
| [23:45:29] | jedix: | that sounds like you're not running a window manager |
| [23:45:48] | jedix: | I think |
| [23:45:50] | jedix: | dunno though |
| [23:46:31] | keith4__: | i'm running fluxbox, I think |
| [23:47:00] | keith4__: | but... that's a good place to start looking, thanks |
| [23:48:32] | PatrickDK: | strange |
| [23:48:46] | PatrickDK: | I never used to run a windows manager on my box, and myth seemed to work fine for me |
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| [23:49:56] | keith4__: | ah, i wasn't running fluxbox |
| [23:50:05] | keith4__: | i was just running mythfrontend using xinitrc |
| [23:50:16] | keith4__: | which explains why myth works fine, but mplayer doesn't get any input |
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| [23:51:42] | keith4__: | how do I get the stupid fluxbox "dock" to hide when mythfrontend starts? |
| [23:52:07] | elg: | keith4: maybe try an alternative |
| [23:52:17] | devsforev: | Hey everyone. I am using debian and have installed the myth packages using apt-get. I am trying to get mythzoneminder to work, but the package was compiled for zm 1.22.2, and i'm running 1.22.3. Is it possible just to compile mythzoneminder from source and have apt manage the rest of my plugins? |
| [23:52:19] | elg: | metacity seems to be popular |
| [23:54:51] | keith4__: | metacity is going to install 500M of crap |
| [23:54:53] | keith4__: | no thanks |
| [23:55:20] | keith4__: | might as well just install gnome |
| [23:55:23] | elg: | openbox |
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| [23:55:26] | kdubya: | do you have compositing on? |
| [23:55:34] | keith4__: | eh? |
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| [23:55:49] | kdubya: | metacity does not hide the panels if you are using compositing |
| [23:55:51] | kdubya: | like with compiz |
| [23:56:02] | keith4__: | ha |
| [23:56:06] | keith4__: | i have neither metacity not compiz |
| [23:56:12] | kdubya: | aight |
| [23:56:13] | elg: | i'm sure fluxbox could be configured to get rid of the dock, you'd have to check their docs |
| [23:56:50] | elg: | fvwm |
| [23:56:53] | elg: | so many to choose from |
| [23:57:59] | devsforev: | If you are just using the box for mythtv exclusively, i've found Openbox works just fine. And there is no dock by default, hehe |
| [23:58:07] | keith4__: | interesting |
| [23:58:21] | keith4__: | see, now fvwm is a good option. it's small |
| [23:58:26] | keith4__: | xfce4 is big, too |
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| [23:58:36] | elg: | it hink it may take some extra work to get fvwm working well |
| [23:58:39] | elg: | or maybe not |
| [23:58:43] | elg: | openbox is small too, and works great |
| [23:58:58] | keith4__: | sold |
| [23:59:04] | devsforev: | i <3 openbox, hehe |
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